Knowledge Fight - #31: April 17, 2017

Episode Date: April 20, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about a Special Report that Alex Jones released on Monday, April 17th. Topics include: Did Alex breach his gag order on air? Is Google actively delisting InfoWars? How com...plicated are Dan's feelings about how to deal with Alex's custody trial? Did Alex bang all the girls in his school at age 15?

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding So Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We are a couple of dudes. I like to sit around and drink wine and dabble and have some dalliances and the the uh, the soft and mellow waters of Alex Jones. I don't know what I'm saying. That was that was out of control right there That was wild What are you talking about? I don't know, but it's wild times in the world of Alex Jones
Starting point is 00:00:32 And uh, you know, so we're here in the middle of the week coming down Having a chat with you. This is a show where we take a day in the life of Alex Jones and we break it down piece by piece But let me ask you a question. What's up? How much do you know about Alex Jones so much? Okay I'm gonna be honest with you. Please be be Alex Jones levels of honest with me. I am 99 sure sometimes I make a mistake But I am 99 sure I know nothing about Alex Jones and therein lies the fun of the show I get to shock and offend you with the the words of Alex Jones and uh, not out of context which would have been a much better campaign in iraq the
Starting point is 00:01:12 shock and defend campaign Just go up to all these are either with awe. Uh, uh, let's call their moms gay. Let's do And then yell at them for being offended by it. Yeah, you're offended. You're doing oh come on my rights Come on free speech. Yeah cupcake. So before we get going go to your safe zone Go to your demilitarized intellectual zone. Yeah, let's go start calling that Uh, before we get going, I have a couple of thank yous first again Like to thank Mike Kaplan for joining me on the last episode was super fun to interview him And this is coming out Wednesday. You can still go see him tonight at shubas tavern here in chicago if you're in town
Starting point is 00:01:53 Just want to say that again and say thank you again. It was super super cool. Sorry. You couldn't be there jordan No, no, you're not That would have been a weird interview if I was there. I'm not I'm not I'm not supposed to be there for interviews If I was there, I'd just interject like he talked and it was very cogent and interesting I still felt weird. What am I going to do laughing at him? What could have you could have Also, I'd like to say thank you to our new friend david. Thanks for donating to the show. This one's going out to you I'm a policy wonk That was just for you
Starting point is 00:02:27 Whenever someone donates now you give a You get a little policy walk give them their own policy. You are your own policy. You're officially a policy wonk david Thanks for joining up It does not take a lot of work And if you guys want to donate there's a link on Knowledgefight.com says support the show you can check that out or just go to patreon.com slash knowledge fight But there if you want to donate, please do if not, you don't have to anyway Great sales pitch speaking of donations. Alex might need some in the future. Oh
Starting point is 00:02:58 Transition game is still strong still tight. Um, I want to make this statement clear I said at the beginning of the last episode and I stand by it I really don't think that we have any business talking about his divorce I agree and I don't like what I'm seeing on twitter. I don't like what I'm seeing in terms of Articles on unnamed websites. I don't like the takes that I'm seeing I really don't like people dancing in the mud as it were It's it's weird to see because the the hot take machine of the internet is so
Starting point is 00:03:32 so ridiculous where it's like You you fly off as little bit as little of your You know knowledge is possible. You just uh, alex jones denied sandy hook. Like yeah, that's awful and miserable But oh my god, he's done so much more. He's so much more of a monster It's like if you have a band that you know a lot about and they're like people only know their greatest hits right right But it's like chicago, but it's like the band chicago. No, but it's the reverse Oh, it's the reverse of the band you only know their worst songs So all these people out there, they know alex jones worst hits
Starting point is 00:04:10 Whereas like he has a deep catalog guys You should really get into some of the the album cuts the b-sides. Oh, yeah, there's not just uh, you're the inspiration It's not just saturdays in the park. These are chicago songs. Oh boy It's not just 25 or 64 God it's a great song. I didn't know you knew so much about chicago. I know those three songs every time we find out more about Your music taste. It's just it's just getting weirder and weirder. There's more to life than just does anybody really know what time it is Uh, it's another great chicago song Anyway, I really really really want to encourage people to stop paying so much attention to the divorce stuff
Starting point is 00:04:50 Because a lot of it is his business. Yeah, and a lot of it is not really Uh, necessarily Real in our in our world. Do you know what I mean? I don't okay. Well, I would like to know more A lot of it is I mean actually I do but please explain it to the listeners It's a lot of it is personal. We don't really know the dynamics that are going on in his household We don't know anything about his ex-wife. We don't know anything about that world and And we've studiously tried to avoid it. Yeah, and because it isn't our business and it would be tasteless of us to
Starting point is 00:05:26 to delve into that Now the reason that everybody's interested and the reason that things became Immediately interesting to people about this was his lawyer said that he's playing a character Yes, and that was the defense that they used or were intending to use Yeah in the in the trial and the reason that this isn't even interesting really is that he makes that claim Across the board on his own show Whenever he wants to dodge responsibility for something as in the case when he screamed about beating up adam schiff He said that his rants were performance art or their jokes
Starting point is 00:05:59 He said he was joking about so many other different things like oh, I was just you know Everybody else was was doing it. So I made a joke about it in that whole thing He does that all the time and if you are talking about his listeners like you're not You're not actually engaging with why it is they listen to alex jones. They do not care No, probably don't care No, you're never and if he says he's a performance artist that to them is as much a wink as it is a It's not an admission of of guilt or that he doesn't believe in what he's saying It's just him being like hey guys
Starting point is 00:06:36 I'm a performance artist to get my kids like that kind of at best. It's that at worst The audience would believe the globalists are trying to torpedo his family And he's just doing what he's got to do of course sometimes that means you have to You have to lie to protect your family Yeah, and of course and the timing of this could not be more perfect for for everybody to yeah Yeah, it's especially if you are a globalist Let's say you're a globalist now is when you strike That's the trick, you know alex jones. He was nothing. He was nothing to the globalist for a long time
Starting point is 00:07:10 He was just a thorn in their side now that he has some power That's when you uh back his ex-wife. I don't know. I don't know what's going on there I don't either and that argument falls apart because the divorce has been going Oh, oh an argument about the globalist being real fell apart. Yeah shocker I especially falls apart because the divorce has been going on since 2013, but Look, there's a lot of salacious fun stuff that you could make fun of but we choose not to do that We choose not to engage in that because we sincerely believe The taking alex based entirely on his words and researching his words is a much
Starting point is 00:07:48 Much more scathing attack And it's something that he can't deflect from and hopefully hopefully something that if his listeners were to actually Engage with us. They would like there wouldn't be an argument back There wouldn't be something that they could say they might actually be like, oh that maybe does make sense It depends on how deep cognitive dissonance goes, but I mean, I'm not saying a lot of them would do one or two Yeah, I'm saying we could siphon off one or two alex jones listeners. Listen. I'm not captain save a hoe over here That's not where I'm at. That's not my business. I'm not trying to necessarily convert his flock As much as I am trying to
Starting point is 00:08:28 I don't know. What are we doing? That is a good Fucking question is the goal to convert alex jones listeners or is it to like I guess make a time capsule I don't know what we're doing. I think we're establishing our eventual multimillion dollar book deal with simon and shuster bingo where we We review the uh 2016 election through the eyes of alex jones. That might be what we're doing anyway Either that or we're just masturbating into the void. That's way more likely That's probably the best way to go. So you touched on it and that's uh
Starting point is 00:09:03 A subject that will be what this episode is. This is episode part two in a Indefinitely long series that I would like to call how not to cover alex jones When you do stuff like uh the obsessing about him Or it wasn't even him. It was his lawyer saying that he's playing a character Right when you obsess over stuff like that and you clown on him real hard like media matters has And all these websites these pop culture websites All these people on twitter when you obsess about this stuff that comes out in his divorce All you're doing is playing into his hands
Starting point is 00:09:38 My evidence for that is the episode we're going to be listening to today It is from monday your your evidence could just as easily be trump Sure Like did did all of our relentless mocking take him down? No, it only made him stronger Because apparently the i'm rubber your glue Uh Fucking works the meaner meaner defense. Yeah. Yeah Uh, so you're just mad because you lost me
Starting point is 00:10:07 This is an episode from april 17th It is a special report that he put out in the evening and I will say I think it was Unadvised of him I think his lawyers probably should have stopped him from recording this Because I think he touches on some stuff that may come up in court And look, I don't care about like respecting his personal life when he brings stuff up That's the line for me. That's a good point. I will dance around in his personal life when he says it He's the one but well, and we're we're putting together a uh a slow but sure biography of him
Starting point is 00:10:44 Of course, and there is uh, there is a new entry in this episode which is get excited for that I am uh, but when you just kill another dog christ No, that monster. Nope, uh When you attack that should be in his fucking trial He said he murdered a dog But that's put that in his trial That is one step away from murdering all four of your children. Jordan. That's hair. That's hearsay. That's It's him say he didn't. All right. That's my favorite thing. I've ever said right there. Him say that's perfect
Starting point is 00:11:15 It's yours. That's him say. Yeah. Yeah, that's her say. What do you want? Uh that no the reason it's hearsay is because He doesn't actually say he killed a dog. He's just saying You kind of sometimes have to kill a dog All right, how about the time he uh put a guy in a coma and knocked all of his teeth out? Oh, yeah, that's bad. That should be in that should be in there It definitely shows a temper but he is talking about when he was younger and who cares look we're not here to plan a prosecution Maybe that is what we're here to do. So this this episode all I've done he put out a 23 minute video all I've done is cut out Like a couple gaps here and there
Starting point is 00:11:53 And a couple plugs. So it's a couple times. He says info wars.com. Yeah, joseph watson's gonna be hosting Yeah, I cut that out. I've cut out nothing of substance 30 off of whatever. There's 30 off Easter sale still going on as we record this I knew he was gonna get that I knew he's gonna get that in there But this is what happens when you don't actually engage with alex on his level what he's talking about This is the sort of thing that he can do to spin his way out and still keep his cult intact ladies and gentlemen Here we go. Here's the introduction. You see that headline Google says rogue vendor violated guidelines by asserting contractors to rate info wars is untrustworthy site That's business insider google responded
Starting point is 00:12:38 Less than 24 hours after this broke on mike sternovich's website and also on ours ladies and gentlemen All we do is break cutting edge inside intel from our amazing sources leakers and patriots So that's the first clip he shows uh video opens with him holding up his cell phone. It shows this uh Business insider article great that he believes That is riveting television indeed indeed a man holding up his phone Pointing to an article you cannot read nope with just the headline I'm sure totally and you can't read can't even read the headline in the video
Starting point is 00:13:20 No, I would you need to but this he's holding up his phone You can trust him. This is a continuation of a narrative that got started a little bit before this I believe like on the sunday episode Of the show with mike sternovich mike sternovich was discussed on our last episode. He is stuck around austin great Because he's a giant pile of shit No, it's a fall into each and every fucking crevice of your shoe as you walk by him. No, no, no No, is it for a different reason? It's for a different reason. Oh, okay, because he's broken a huge story Uh, okay, and that is that google is
Starting point is 00:13:55 Trying to censor and delist info wars from their search engines really no No Okay, but that's his story That's his story that would be an interesting story and at this point it is I like I could kind of I could kind of believe it like based on all the stuff we've talked about I'm not saying that that could happen or would happen because you know, whatever. Yeah, but I could I could almost see that being the case Well, one thing that is important to consider and this is just google policy. This is company policy
Starting point is 00:14:37 Uh, if a site is being delisted They have to give a formal letter to that company. So if alex jones was legitimately being delisted He would have Evidently proof he would have that letter from google. So that's not happening. So it's It's entirely impossible unless he pulls out the letter now keep in mind All he does at info wars is break massive stories That are truthful By his own words right there. That's what he said. This story is bogus as fuck right
Starting point is 00:15:10 So do you want to know the truth? Should we wait until this develops a little more? Yeah, I don't I don't need to know the the nuts and bolts. I want to see where he's gonna go All right, that's a good point because sorry google has admitted though that they are Hiring or have hired excuse me 10,000 people to go around delisting stuff on the internet They say is fake news or spam. That's the big story info wars is not the story If they can censor you they can censor me what should be prominent is what you upvote What actually gets the best uh ratings what people promote if there's fake bots fake spam
Starting point is 00:15:52 Fake view counts. Absolutely. Google has a right to block us. So they should block info wars then Maybe Maybe I mean they do have a lot of artificial traffic They sure do they him and paul joseph watson both have outrageously high numbers of uh fake twitter followers Based on you know twitter audits that have been done. Uh-huh. So, I mean, I mean look, I don't know. I don't I That I that argument isn't going to do it for me like his own argument for why something should be censored That's not enough for me. Of course. Of course. No, but let's uh, you know
Starting point is 00:16:27 10 how they hired 10,000 people. I don't know. Why don't we let him hang himself a little more before we get to the facts? That was your plan. Let's do it. Okay. All right. Hold on to the 10,000 numbers. All right the ladies and gentlemen High-level google administrators. How does he know? Told our sources and cernovich showed me the sources all over he trusted me I was able to see the whole data trail. You name it one of the sources for at least multiple years Cernovich is great because he just works his contacts. He's a real journalist. He's amazing He's he's helped info wars so much with the stuff. He's been doing so we're just you know
Starting point is 00:17:03 So probably work he's doing breaking the susan wright's news and The susan wright's news was a bogus story also. Yep. That was complete bullshit Also another fun news story that mike cernovich broke Over the weekend was he went to one of these the tax protests because he was in austin right So he didn't have to be In berkeley where he might get his ass correct correct He was in austin at the tax protest He was counter protesting as it were and he had sure he put out a video of him with his cell phone
Starting point is 00:17:35 On himself doing like a like a selfie periscope video and he's like they're attacking me and there's a bunch of people Like you can see behind him There's another guy who caught another angle of the video as far away as humanly possible He's like across the street, isn't he? No, it's just like a couple people who are like Come on. They're just sort of moving him out of the way And he's walking in front of them while they escort him out of the protest area shooing him with a broom And it's so funny. It's so out of here little boy It's so funny to see the long view of him acting like he's in the middle of a huge crowd that's beating him up
Starting point is 00:18:13 Or trying to assault him. It's just a couple people who are like come on man And not even really pushing him And he's just like uh, it's he's the worst he was doing He was doing everything possible to try and incite something there Of course he was and knowing that it probably wouldn't happen. He was doing things to Rig the appearances to make it look like he was being right Somehow oppressed. They don't want my free speech I mean they don't of course not
Starting point is 00:18:42 I want him nobody's nobody's arresting him though. I want him to have free speeches if I were there. I wouldn't want him there Yeah, yeah, yeah do that over that over there That's literally every possible situation where Mike Sartovich is there. Yeah, even if he's I don't want him there Wherever he is. Anyway, he broke the Susan rice story huge according to alex not huge Truthful world. Well, I mean it is truthful, but the context of it is is completely meaningless Yeah, she was the national security advisor. All right, so we do have a confirmation That he did tell the truth So we got one on the board from Sartovich. I don't agree with that. I think he told
Starting point is 00:19:22 He said some truths and then lied about the interpretation of them which makes it a lie Yeah, or maybe he's just an idiot. Well, no because I could say hey, you're wearing a like a green blue hoodie That means that you are a coward I don't know my brain wasn't doing good with it coming up with with ideas My point is that I did color of your hoodie is true But my interpretation of it is wrong and therefore it's all kind of unless I actually am a coward But it would still have nothing to do with your hoodie Okay, fine. That's actually how cowards signal each other. Listen, I don't we need to communicate some way
Starting point is 00:20:01 But we're too afraid to say so. I don't want to get into your coward handkerchief game No, no, no, no, but we're like the we're the coward boys really is what we are. Listen the point the point is The Mike Cernovich is not telling the truth in this case. Of course not. He's not telling the case in google But uh, let's let's finish up this clip and then I'll explain Uh, with us and others breaking the big news about the troop buildup They were trying to con trump at a large reward surrey, uh, I mean just on so many fronts Cernovich is on target That's why donald jr. Says he deserves a bull surprise. He does not these other fake journalists that are running around
Starting point is 00:20:36 Oh, but last night we posted it like 11 o'clock at 9 After hours of research over all the emails and documents and the whole manuals on how to censor with only public three pages of it Because we're not trying to even screw these companies over. They're the ones screwing us over So now it's time to get into what's actually going on Why did they only post three pages? They they went through thousands of documents And at 11 o'clock after a long work day of just combing through these high level Google documents, right Wait, I assume they sent them a link to a google doc. No, they were they were secretly given to mike cernovich
Starting point is 00:21:18 They weren't why would you secretly give anything to mike cernovich their public documents? You could just give them to mike cernovich their public documents. Well, yeah I found them. Well, yeah, but I mean you you They've been delisted from google. They don't know how to google things anymore. They can't bing it They haven't been delisted from google. Yeah, but you don't know that you haven't searched info wars. I have What's the first thing that comes up info wars? That seems very obvious. There's like 300. You should have known that What is this? Okay. I have the actual number here. Uh, they have 341,000
Starting point is 00:21:55 pages On info wars listed On google, right? So that's 341,000 results. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah No, no, but if you search within the site info wars dot com Oh, so if you go into google and you put into the google, uh, search bar site colon info wars dot com You get 341,000 results. How did you learn about that? Did you get some high level sources who taught you how to google properly? I just know how to google I don't know. So I don't know if you do. So now this tennis has some inside information. Do you know how google works?
Starting point is 00:22:32 That is a good question. It's not magical robots Their algorithms work because they have these 10,000 Contractors, okay higher. Uh-huh. And their job is to do searches all day And evaluate the results. Oh, so you search for certain terms and then there is a like 160 page guideline Manual that teaches you how to evaluate The results that you get and one of the things that they are, you know, they're that seems too long 160 pages, but that's that's what he that's single spaced. That's what alex is talking about. He's like this the hundred oh
Starting point is 00:23:13 They combed through 160 pages and they found a couple pages that kind of Look bad for them. That's basically what they what's happened And they're treating it like some big leak that's come from a secret source. It's not it's google's manual for how they You know try and weed out shit Because if you're searching for something you don't want to get a site that has Tons of pop-ups on it, right? You don't want to get a site that redirects you somewhere where you're not supposed to be You don't want to click on a link that takes you somewhere that doesn't have any information on it Yeah, you might fucking wind up at info wars
Starting point is 00:23:49 Ah Exactly This whole thing This entire manual is essentially a training manual that goes to explain, uh, basically Their their guidelines They they go down to Uh, basically does this person have expertise? Is there is this accurate and is this
Starting point is 00:24:18 I can't remember what the third so so their base their whole job Is to make sure that you and I never actually go to the second page of google Yeah, at the end at the end of a search if you go to the second page of google Their algorithm probably didn't work or you've uh not Made the question specific. Yeah. Yeah, but whatever you're looking for you didn't phrase, right? Their job is to make you lazy, right and it's to um, or at least facilitate your already Laziness or and as time goes on things become less relevant Like one of the examples and pages die and they're you know that whole sure and one of the examples
Starting point is 00:24:57 I saw here was that like which reminds me I really got to stop paying for the url on my angel fire page Yeah, you probably should I gotta I gotta let that one go your zenga Uh, so one of the examples I found here of something that was considered like low quality By their standards was a tmz article about britney spears filing for divorce And the reason is because the person searched for britney spears Specifically and that page popped up. Oh And she doesn't want to know about No, it's because that was that's years and years old or he it can be either gender
Starting point is 00:25:29 Who's searching for britney spears or it does sexist of you that is yes But I apologize you understand this search result isn't relevant nowadays to someone just searching for britney spears So it's considered low and ideally it'll go down the algorithm So it won't pop up as immediately when you search for just britney spears, right? That's not trying to delist tmz As it were it's not trying to censor them at all It's just considering what are you searching for you want to make sure that you get to that Yes, it's trying to it's trying to suss out your your goals. Yes. Now it gets a little bit complicated What
Starting point is 00:26:06 10,000 people all working on the same thing might get a little complicated with 160 page guideline what which they're trying to follow Yes, okay, so I assumed it would be simple The like like the one page manual is just like guys You know what you're looking for just fucking There was a screenshot that was like that's posted on sernovich's website and info wars reposted that was Using info wars as an example of something that would get a low score Okay, this was not from google's own
Starting point is 00:26:41 Like main document It was from one of the businesses that some of these 10,000 people work for Because they subcontract these things out So this person was using info wars as an example of that this would be low on the scale, right? Like a power point presentation to your to your training staff like essentially here's how we would Yes, and the reasons that are given For that is that the reputation of info wars has been that they are overall Controversial and often their claims are debunked
Starting point is 00:27:12 Just fair. Yeah, we've illustrated this over and over again Sure, but it here's here's a quote from this this write-up about the situation Despite this the example did not suggest that the page info wars be given the lowest possible score In fact it explained why this should not happen It even defended the reason why that particular page would be useful to some google searchers And this is from the the document Yes Simply presenting an unorthodox perspective on the news doesn't exactly qualify
Starting point is 00:27:42 Even if it may be harmful in the larger more elliptical sense of the term You could say that we're being generous with the upper range here But the site may be considered useful to some users looking for an alternative source of information and it redeems it in some way Okay, so what what that translates to is Just because it's controversial and probably not Useful and it's coming from a thoroughly debunked generally debunked site isn't enough To delist it or to drop it as low as possible Yes, what it what you should do is if you're searching if you're searching for just like
Starting point is 00:28:21 What happened today info wars should not be on the top of the list, right? It should be like cnn and and what and the new york times and uh Or if a site like like a site that has those are the only two news agencies that I could reference off the top of my head Which is not good because I don't read either of them if a site has like unnavigatable pop-ups and shit That's what should be at the lowest. Yes, and then you have Shades of the rest of it Now 50 shades of lie Alex claims that these people were told these 10,000 people were told
Starting point is 00:28:54 To censor and delist info wars and that is just absolutely not true. They're just You know, they were used as an example of something that was low quality, right, which is fair now Do we have the recordings of those conversations though? So they put up the training? Uh montage there. Mm-hmm. All right, but say they turn the recording off I assume all training sessions are recorded like the nicks and white house tapes. Mm-hmm. They turn it off and then the trainer goes Listen, this is off the record D list D list info wars because those fucks is bullshit. No, I don't think that happened. Yeah, but uh the thing
Starting point is 00:29:34 So here's where it gets even more complicated Okay The example that they used in this sort of guideline that was using info wars as an example of A low quality information source. Mm-hmm. They used a screenshot of an info wars article about a sod uh reporting that The gas attack was fake Okay, so now alex gets really pissed about this later because he's like they're saying we don't have legitimate sources
Starting point is 00:30:06 Ron paul ron paul was on rt saying it Putin said it A sod said it. Yeah This credible sources this with no skin in the game whatsoever This former uk ambassador who has a history of supporting a sod throughout really murky times that we discussed on a past episode Yeah, these are his sources and he doesn't I think he knows but he's not willing to engage with the idea that like these are bad sources In terms of this these are bad sources
Starting point is 00:30:41 Like or Putin is they're the only sources who would know Because they're the ones who Well, look would have planned it the story is that a sod gassed his own people Yeah, so alex's story is no he didn't and now you're gonna get a sod's take on it Like I know every time someone's accused of murder. They don't say they did it not every time pretty much A lot of the time. Well, yeah, okay fine. Some terrorist organizations take responsibility for their actions I mean, you got serial killers. You got jeffrey dommer. He ate people, but did he plead guilty immediately?
Starting point is 00:31:16 Nobody took a shit and everybody knew right so I was the dumbest thing I've ever said. So now here's my here's my fun Here's my fun theory about a sod like how great would it be if he didn't do it But he knows nobody would ever believe him like what a bummer for him if he's fine Like the one time he's not the most evil son of a bitch murdering cocksucker All of the sudden he's like
Starting point is 00:31:48 Fuck the boy who cried. I didn't I didn't do it this time. Why won't anyone believe me? And then he gasses people just uh just to get over it, you know, I assume that's how he deals with his stress I wouldn't be surprised so that was their example and again even within that example It wasn't saying delist or censor them at all. It was just use just lower them on the Which is I mean, it's unfortunate You shouldn't use alex jones as an example of something that would get a low rating because you know He's exactly the type of person who's going to turn that into a huge fucking deal use another example Yeah, that's what I would advise looking back. I was a misstep. That's what I would have advised these vendors to do
Starting point is 00:32:25 Could have used any number of examples like the spectator stay away from town halls Drudge alex jones And I don't know sernovich stay away from those guys and you're fine. They're the ones who are going to get really mad At least in regards to your training manual So here's where it gets the extra murky What alex jones is responding to on this episode that we're listening to Is that google put out a statement explaining that
Starting point is 00:32:54 they didn't Make that manual the second manual that has info wars used as an example see and they should have just ignored it They should have just ignored it. It would have gone away. Absolutely. You didn't need to say anything But they addressed it and they're like hey look it They didn't they weren't telling anybody to censor anything, but They did use them as an example and I understand how this could come off So we've asked that to be removed and we're going to take care of it. So that's what google has it No, I mean you're making a scrunchy face, but I get where they're coming from too. It's like all right
Starting point is 00:33:26 Let's just fucking squash this and they did but alex, of course Yeah, you just don't engage with him He says he says the guy who's the co-host of an alex No, I mean in a in that kind of like offhand throwaway way because just the fact that they're responding to like look We're at best if he's coming after us. He's punching down at least for now, right and probably forever But at least for now Google though google gets to be a giant corporation that you can really rail against because there's no way info wars subscribers and listeners
Starting point is 00:34:07 Really think that google isn't part of the globalist. That's true Like they have to think that google is so the very fact that google is responding to them means like oh, they know We're powerful They know we have something on them. They know they're caught this time alex is going to get to that But you you're starting to be able to predict his behaviors, but oh This could be the end of the podcast There's two things one. I think that google probably doesn't understand his listeners as well as we do Secondarily, I think no, I don't even think his listeners understand his listeners as well as we do it
Starting point is 00:34:42 Maybe not, but then the second thing is I think that they're doing exactly what I would do in their position Which is be like, hey, you know what? We didn't make that fair enough fair enough Let's try and clean up our mess a little bit. You know, these were these subcontractors who did this Uh, you know, sorry, whatever. I don't think they even apologize, but they were like, why would you there's nothing to apologize for? Absolutely not and they're not being delisted. They're not being censored. It's all it's all Another susan rice story that like sernovich is broken. It's all Non-facts presented as conspiracy against them to highlight victim status Which again is what he's going to do with the divorce stuff once he's it not under a gag order
Starting point is 00:35:22 He is the victim which is the which is the only Real bullet that the conservative movement has is that they're always the ones under attack That's their that's their all that's always their argument when it always comes back to it Which is why they can't actually do anything like uh, or like now that they're in power They can't actually govern in any kind of reasonable way because What what do you do? Like you're you're always the victim now. You're the one who's Victimizing other people so you can't play that card and whenever everybody starts fucking up now the g.o.p
Starting point is 00:36:00 Is complaining that they're the victim Against the g.o.p. Like they just don't have any other play well They have to find the more conserved like the freedom caucus has to become the ones who are being victimized Yeah, they're the ones being victimized by the mainstream republicans or bannons being victimized by pre-vis Always always sooner or later There's going to be the infighting whenever everybody has to claim to be the victim my man It's already happening which boggles my mind considering the fact that their other argument is that everybody else is playing the victim Yeah, now we're going to move on. Uh, I think that we've fairly decently addressed this google thing
Starting point is 00:36:35 I'll post links bullshit. I'll post links to stuff on the uh on knowledge fight dot com You can find uh, some resources on that that explain Really what's going on is bullshit But now we're going to get into the part where alex goes on from this main point He's going to come back to it a bunch and just remember whenever he does It's worth shit, but this clip and the next couple clips are where he says some stuff that he shouldn't have said on the air And then the news is like oh alex is full of crap. He says google Is censoring him for linking the news articles about syria being a false flag with a chemical attack and that it was all admitted
Starting point is 00:37:13 today But the media attack on us only intensifies from there. I mean it is just getting so crazy So understand this info wars has been chosen as the beta tests To be incrementally basically shut down And that's why they take things. I've set out a context. That's why they take satire engaged you out of context Bullshit clearly parodies No, and then they put them out and then I come out and say that's satire a parody. I'm acting there
Starting point is 00:37:42 And they go oh everything you do is an act Again targeting low information readers on the internet and watchers So this is wait. He should not have said that no Because he just then admitted that it's not all an act Yeah, that's why he shouldn't be saying this on the air. He shouldn't be saying this on the air at all. No Not during this trial. No, especially when he's under a gag order. Yeah He actually did get he did get in trouble in court On tuesday because he made a video like this. I don't know if it's this video specifically
Starting point is 00:38:17 But he's not supposed to be talking about any of this stuff. No Technically he's not addressing it directly But he is basically addressing the fact that he said he was an act Yes, or at least his lawyer said that he was an act and then he's claiming that They are saying that he's an act. Uh-huh And His distinction is that sometimes he's an act. Well, he's going to fully flesh this out And he's not but he's going to attempt to fully flesh this out
Starting point is 00:38:46 And his argument that he's going to lay out is that there are times When he plays characters like one time he was in clown makeup and one time that's true One time he had a lizard mask on and did a did a character and he thinks this is one of the more powerful people in In uh alternative media. Yep, the guy who wears a lizard mask Sometimes this is one of the more powerful people in alternative media. So he's great. He makes the argument We live in a beautiful world those times. He's doing parody But all the other times he's real So now this is murky because he's tried to use the performance art
Starting point is 00:39:23 Claim in the past when we've dealt with it the pizza gate thing or with him screaming at shiff Yes, you know those sorts of things which is not what he's talking about now No, he specifically in this episode thinks that everyone who thinks he's playing a role and doing an act He thinks that they're just talking about the times that he puts on a lizard mask Or does a british accent or stuff like that. He is so confused about what people are actually saying about him It's insane I I could have called almost all of these clips alex is a lunatic because
Starting point is 00:40:00 You could call all of our clips alex is a lunatic. So he goes on to say we could call our podcast alex is a lunatic In this next clip, I mean we'd have to call it alex jones is a lunatic. Otherwise people would never find us And we get sued by everyone named alex. Yeah, they would just think we were talking about a random alex Uh, so this next clip alex goes on to say some more stuff about how he is not an actor And again, this could have really hurt him in court. That's his defense in court. It's really gonna work against him I really think that some of this might get played in court because it's overt. That's pretty hilarious. Yeah He's a man who can't help but self-destruct 95 of the time I'm not doing satire. All right. Well, that's not good when I do satire
Starting point is 00:40:42 I tell you when I wear a zore mask and act like I'm a reptoid or whatever I don't believe reptoids are on the planet But the media picks that up and says look jones wore a liver a lizard mask And believes that the zortanians or whatever took over and then I've got to go no I was acting as a skit as a joke everybody else does jokes presidents do jokes I was being an actor there that was satire. I believe in what I'm saying and doing I believe in the message of liberty
Starting point is 00:41:09 I'm one of the purest people on record out there defending the republic and not selling out and being attacked everywhere And there are literally in the last two days over a thousand articles. I have google alerts So I can't look at it a little bit tells me over 1200 articles with the words alex jones admits he's fake Or alex jones says he's just an actor and doesn't believe it. I didn't ever said any of that. Yeah, you did No, he didn't his lawyer did yeah, and it is an important distinction I don't know of any lawyers who are like Here's what I want my client to do publicly
Starting point is 00:41:47 Deny what I said I don't I don't know a lot of lawyers admittedly But I'm fairly certain if you're a lawyer for like, I don't know. Let's say you're defending a murderer You don't want to be like your honor We enter a plea of not guilty. I did it and then have your Your client go on tv being like I didn't kill like five percent of those people 95 percent of the time i'm killing It's just this one time I did you know what the only way I can sort of wrap my brain around it is like the strategy
Starting point is 00:42:25 The like sort of legal strategy is muddy the waters Like make it really so undistangleable Like make it just a big knot like your headphones are all all wrapped up You're never gonna get those fucking things untangled like this like this cord right here. Yeah, that's done for yeah There's no way so yeah, I think that I mean that's possible. That's bad Your cord is getting so tangled you're getting closer and closer to the desk. I am it's uh, it's very uncomfortable I'm gonna get a new cord But anyway, this clip goes on again. This is very ill advised on here's the weird here's the
Starting point is 00:42:57 Here's the fun thing that I always love so much Is conservatives don't understand that they cannot be funny. They're not funny. They're never funny So his idea of like Everybody else does jokes I know I know alex. Mm-hmm, but but you're like Like what's what's this fuck? Mike huckabee is trying to be funny on twitter and you're like jesus, dude Just wow. Yeah cut it out. Yeah
Starting point is 00:43:25 Stick to the base. You know, you know, what's really funny white people are the best. Oh, no, that's not really a joke Is it mike huckabee? It's tough. That is you're terrible. Yeah, alex alex You're right. He doesn't understand this is the problem. He's not funny He's not really doing satire, but he's totally right about people taking him out of context now admittedly uh If he was at like an open mic And went on stage wearing a lizard mask and just saying alex jones things and I didn't know it was him That would be the funniest fucking thing. I've ever heard my entire life if he was doing like that. My mom kicked me off her knee
Starting point is 00:44:02 There's four ways to learn so good in a lizard mask and open mic. I'm in yeah He's hilarious so long as he isn't trying to tell a joke to be fair We've seen him do stand up in like our third episode. Yeah, but he wasn't wearing a lizard mask That's a good point. He wasn't wearing a lizard mask. Anyway, I never said a word of that ladies and gentlemen What the media does is they take clips of me when I rarely do satire now They edited it all together and they put it on the news Like steven cobert did a few months ago and I guess I gotta finally probably so Google's only back in aux already called law firms. They know it. Um
Starting point is 00:44:36 Because they know i'll get discovery. That's not they googled it. I said i'm not anti-gay. I've never been I don't care what you do in your own bedroom. I'm a fricking libertarian I'm And they they've got a clip with cobert was on a little tv a little youtube clips You can't tell it's cut And it's me going said to me saying I'm not anti-gay goes. I'm anti-gay. We'll probably take that clip and play it And people say I've had employees thrown out of their rent house after that air
Starting point is 00:45:04 A lady shows goes i'm a lesbian. I'm gay get the hell out of here You're not on the lease like your roommate the guy's like even a liberal but he cares about freedom that works in our office I call him a classical liberal You know all the classic things like freedom and openness and you know anti-drug war It's just so crazy as a real classical liberal So I consider myself alex is a classical liberal a classical liberal, right? Which apparently is the exact same thing as a libertarian because he just said he was that also by the by the definition of Lizard libertarian, uh, he thinks that they're into freedom openness and anti-drug war
Starting point is 00:45:39 That's all the criteria that he gave there. That's a classical liberal that I I you know I I don't want to say that i'm a baroque liberal then but That kind of I've met some where there were there movements in uh in classical liberalism Uh, I've met some liberals that I would not say are very open Yeah, doesn't seem like a real that doesn't seem like one of the virtues of liberalism Hey, you're reserved get out of it I also like the people who got kicked out of the their rent houses, which I don't know if I've ever called it that before like victorian london speed. Yeah, exactly
Starting point is 00:46:15 Let's call it an apartment. Maybe uh Yeah And even in his explanation, it's like, oh, I hate if I was uh, you're not on the lease Like your roommate is Which means you shouldn't be there that might be more what's going on Oh, really it might be the whole the whole you should be on the like it's fascinating You can't sublet your apartment. It's against the law. It's fascinating how I mean if you don't get your landlord's permission Yeah, right, right, right. It's fascinating though. How oftentimes alex will accidentally tell the truth in the middle of a bullshit
Starting point is 00:46:51 Sense like that. I mean and that's so easy to let slip by it's like you got to get out of here. I hate alex jones You're not on the lease Well, it's uh, it's the 28 in the womb. Well, it's the same thing with this google story You know, it's google is trying to delist us They're not the the story that you posted even the business insider story doesn't even say that And how would they know that you've already called a lawyer? He hasn't of course. He's too busy with his other lawyers Well, I mean in that case maybe he did call the lawyer Because he's already been calling his lawyer a lot talk to his divorce lawyer about suing the biggest company in the world
Starting point is 00:47:30 Uh, they're not quite the biggest. I believe in apple is the biggest. They're up there Or the most profitable or something like that. My man. They're up there. Anyway, uh, alex is not just full of anecdotal stories about People getting kicked out of their homes. He's not just a guy who's gonna falsely claim he's a classical liberal He's also gonna tell you a Untrue story about someone talking to him on the street to sit here and watch all these a-holes lie about me constantly And then I had a guy on the street today Today walk up to me and say I used to really like you. I listen all the time and I I saw you on the news You didn't see me. You read some quote
Starting point is 00:48:05 Saying it's all fake. You're an actor. You don't mean any of this. I never said any of that I've said hundreds of times on my own shows people ask me. It's one of the most common ask questions. Why aren't you dead? That's the most common That's god dad. Hell. I don't know and the other question is Is it for real? When I promote freedom or sound money or sovereignty or family or free open market free market systems Or not having wars where we start them Or the right to self-defense. Of course, I believe it. None of my kids are vaccinated. Yikes. Oh, you should not be
Starting point is 00:48:41 Losing already lost the custody battle done done Why are we even bothering with ipa wars? None of his kids are vaccinated. Take his fucking kids away now and vaccinate him Maybe give him back to him afterwards, but fucking get get your shots I can't I can't stress how many times i've said this on the podcast get your kids are fucking shots you idiot It's a public health issue. It's not for you Science is still out Vaccines are tainted. Oh man. Oh now. I don't say this lightly One of his kids should get polio
Starting point is 00:49:26 I don't say this lightly that guy on the street didn't talk to him that guy on the street doesn't exist No, or I used to like you and then yesterday I saw a report that you're fake and that that ruined all the time that I listen don't fuck off that didn't happen these Did he hallucinate that it's possible because he sounds very He sounds very sincere in that story like it doesn't sound like he's lying in the same way that it usually does whenever he lies where he he puts in too many details like This guy in a paisley shirt. Well, that's yeah, I mean he does all he he does often give too many details
Starting point is 00:50:02 But you see this with like all of his narratives too. He just flippantly lies and sounds like he believes all the stuff He's saying that's true. He is really good at lying. So anyway, he gets into here into this next clip There's some more lies. This clip is super bizarre This i'm excited this clip starts with him saying stuff Uh, that's obliquely referring to the court case that he shouldn't be saying he shouldn't be saying any of this stuff Then he speculates as to why people are attacking info wars and he's lying. It's all bullshit Then he transitions into a lie about callers calling into his show
Starting point is 00:50:39 uh, and then He tries to explain satire Oh, no, that's a deep water. That's like the straw man explanation. He does not understand satire the Way I would sum it up is satire is fucking hard, man It's real hard and it should be left to pros. But anyway, give it a shot alex And I've dealt in my own personal life with the system coming after me as you can see everywhere But i'm gonna talk about my family. I'm gonna take the high road and all this But I've done everything I've said I do I've stood for what I stand for
Starting point is 00:51:17 I'm not left or right. I choose issues on whether they Are the right thing to do when I research them So people will even take the fact that I'm responding to this is some weakness Because that's the new media thing. They're like alex is bonafide. He's real people believe him. It's spreading He promotes all these other freedom lovers So that who is saying that well, that's what he's saying that that's why people attack him because he's on the vanguard of the new freedom Of the new freedom, but before that he was saying that like my you know, all this stuff. I'm under attack about my family I'm gonna take the high road on it. You shouldn't have said shit. You should have said nothing
Starting point is 00:51:54 Even just saying that is gonna be a problem alex jones You should have said nothing. Yeah, that's that should be his biography. Yeah. Yeah. That's the name of our biography Isn't that isn't that isn't that mic for bigliest joke what I should have said was nothing was nothing What I did say Was all the shit my lawyer told me not to yeah There they can track that most of the modern Next wave of patriotic libertarians that defeat the globalist have been magnified by my show and kind of launch Kind of like drudge helped us launch some we would have launched on our own our listeners helped us as well
Starting point is 00:52:29 And you know folks, but being drudge was a big magnifying out as listeners still is Well info wars has been a big magnifier As well for other people and they see that they know We're like the incubation system for other people that want to challenge norms and create new media Now if we take that as an argument we can look at the people who have come out of info wars and gained national prominence and I can count on zero hands The number of people who have come out of info wars and become
Starting point is 00:53:04 relevant um Zero hands. I'm pretty sure I read a new york times profile of batman and oh no no no dude There was that whole documentary about rainbow snatch. No that was on info wars. No, that's right. Yeah. Yeah, fuck um Let's see All the people that he has on who he could make an argument are Like people who give him more credibility than people like an anthony kumia hosting once uh two weeks Once every two weeks or whatever people like gavin mcginnis coming on even like sernovich Yeah, like these are guys who have built in fan groups already. It doesn't mean anything rob dues is zero
Starting point is 00:53:45 Owen treuers doing nothing paul joseph watson has a big fan base, but he the info wars is a Anchor around his leg for all intents and purposes He just makes short attention span propaganda videos that he puts out on his own channel, which are horrendous. Yeah, they're terrible He's bad at it. He he is someone who is actually fairly successful in the homegrown stable or whatever But he lives in london. He doesn't he's He's as separate from alex as he can be while still being involved David knight sucks. David knight super sucks. Leanne macadoo is great, but she doesn't have it You fucking are in love with leon macadoo. She's very beautiful. You are in love with leon macadoo. Millie weaver sucks
Starting point is 00:54:30 That's what this podcast is really about. I kind of just want yeah Somehow to get leon macadoo's attention and then bring her over here and Replace me with leon macadoo. I know it. That would be so great Um, who else we got millie weaver sucks Uh, bub bub bub bub I actually beckford's barely ever around these days never heard that name before The people who are not really used to be around aren't around anymore jacari jackson certainly isn't a notable household name Rambo joe bigs. He's not around don't like you saying any of those words. Uh, um
Starting point is 00:55:12 Uh mark dice not super famous not a really big name. Nope. Um, unless he's secretly Uh, andrew dice clay wearing a mask. I would be regressed age makeup to an nth degree Hey, if uh, if benjamin button can do it John bound isn't famous. None of these people are notable. Do you just have a team of losers? It's just no, it's not a nice way to say that but it's fair Well, yeah, if any of them were doing their own thing, they might actually be successful They might have it in them to do something No, it's possible. I don't know it is possible. I have no idea. I've never in an infinite universe
Starting point is 00:55:55 Yes in one section of the multiverse Paul joseph watson is the greatest broadcaster of his era. I sincerely think he probably has way more talent than He's expressing through his propaganda videos. You think so? Yeah, probably I think he has a charisma probably doesn't That's fair be that as it may. I'm talking about all the other ding dongs. Yeah Like they don't even have a chance to shine. They're not even doing their own unique thing They're just alex's seconds. Uh-huh. They even they even say the exact same things that he does They just they just they're puppets The strangest thing about his argument is that he is essentially a cult leader
Starting point is 00:56:35 And anyone threatening his consolidation of power would be immediately torn down That's why joe big has had to get fired. Yeah, exactly Or at least sent to the side for a little bit Because they let him back into the fold. They put him in time out Yeah, he was shamed for a little while and then he's brought back in Anyway, you're about to get to the part where he lies about his callers It doesn't mean I'm perfect doesn't mean I don't make mistakes, but I'm not trying to Truth is is my north star. It's my pole star. It's what I want. It's where I'm going
Starting point is 00:57:07 Nope, and so all the time I get the call Any regular listener who's listening for even a week or so when I take calls Are you for real? I've listened every day for the last four months. Has anybody said not one not what no one has ever asked in that Now he does screen his calls sure So it's entirely possible that his screener has heard that Which I would assume is rob do but he said that anyone who listens
Starting point is 00:57:35 In his very boring voice rob do goes Uh He's for real and then relays that information on to alec But he's saying that anyone who listens would know that You know this call happens all the time. I listen. It doesn't. Oh, yeah. Well, then definitely not. Yeah Absolutely 95% of the time I'm being totally serious when I do satire. I tell you I don't do satire lesson work Is if I dress up like the joker we lost probably 50,000 youtube followers when I did that in a day. I mean they thought we thought you were a good guy
Starting point is 00:58:03 You've got joker mask on you're saying evil stuff I was being an actor there illustrating an evil clown saying take your vaccines kids and then showing articles Where vaccines were killing kids to try to get to people that don't to it into politics But are into the whole evil clown craze. I'm planning a big it thing. I'm just doing it. You know what? I'm gonna say this is acting to illustrate what I really believe Vaccines are dangerous because they have liability protection read the inserts and then I'm gonna hijack the whole it thing Stephen King And go take them kids. Oh, it's good
Starting point is 00:58:37 People don't do you really mean take them? No, I don't mean take them and no, I'm not really a clown but I am Good at expressing when I believe so I put white face on and put my hair back I get the clown that's gonna scare the hell out of people. I'll be scared of the guy in the movie. You know So you're so wait. He just said that he's acting to express what he really believes. Yeah Yeah Well, no, I mean what he's saying is that he plays this character as the opposite of what he believes in order to make the point
Starting point is 00:59:09 To express what he really believes right in the case of so in his argument that he is a performance artist He just said that he 5% of the time Is acting and he is only acting to express what he actually believes Which is the opposite point of what he's actually making. He's really bad at this so bad Now, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. It's just to be crystal clear. He's specifically talking about that time. He dressed up like the joker He's not abstractly talking about You know
Starting point is 00:59:42 Other times might have been performance art when he was screaming at some guy or something like that. Yeah, he's talking specifically about times He's worn costumes That's important And also wearing costumes is not satire. No, that's not how satire works But also it's not a good argument against vaccines to say they have liability protection It's a very bad argument because almost everything does Uh, yeah Check the inserts. They got liability protect. Well, of course
Starting point is 01:00:09 Yeah, well the reason that your your aspirin has a fucking little Cover on it is because of the aspirin murderer from way back when and maybe that was not Maybe that was just a guy. Yeah, or it could have been the actual corporation. Anyways Liability protection. Yeah, of course Almost everything is used at your own risk We were walking away from this We don't want liability. How come we haven't had a disclaimer at the beginning of all of our podcast. I don't give a shit We aren't in LLC. What are we doing?
Starting point is 01:00:43 I'll stand by my words. Okay. All right. Anyway, go ahead. You had a question. Um, no, I I have time for one question. I do There's so many that come in that clip I didn't know he dressed up as a joker. He did It lost a lot of followers. How did he lose 50 000 followers because he dressed up as a joker Well, as he said it, we lost a lot of followers. We were like, we thought you were a good guy Yeah, I don't know. Wait Does he does he believe
Starting point is 01:01:11 That his listeners Are so dumb That were they to see him dress up as the joker? They would believe He is the joker. We're gonna get into a clip a little bit later down the road where he wrestles with this a little bit further Oh, god, but I don't think he I think he's disappointed by how dumb his listeners are but he doesn't he knows that if he calls them dumb Game over. Yeah, so he has to try and Blame the media and stuff like that. It's like they've poisoned everyone's minds and act like he's talking about other people
Starting point is 01:01:48 But yeah when he's really talking about the dumb dumb if his listeners saw him dressed up like the joker and they were like Wow, you actually believe that that means your listeners are dumb. Also No one who is making fun of that clip Years ago when he did that no one was like Look at this guy. He likes to dress up like the joker. We don't get this as parody We don't get this as satire everyone was like look at this crazy asshole. Yeah He's a crazy asshole dressed up like a joker the first time anybody any right thing first saw it He really dressed up like the joker. Yeah, these fine pictures of it. He really did that
Starting point is 01:02:24 Yeah, he put on like the the makeup and everything. Yeah, who told him that was a good idea. I bet there's just people who can't tell him It's not That actually sounds far more. I bet he doesn't listen to anybody. That's why he's doing this That's why he's indemnifying himself or whatever, you know, like he's going to get fucked. Yeah, he's not good at this Yeah, so this next clip coming up is uh him Really further nailing down that he's not an actor And uh, he also explains that he doesn't want to be famous Which that is the least true thing anyone that that's the least true thing
Starting point is 01:03:02 He's said truth is his north star. Yeah, no, he wants to be famous So bad. He wants to rub elbows with other famous people so badly totally but also Really shouldn't be making a crystal clear case that you're not an actor at this point I love how then they like i'm an actor like i want to be an actor I've been in major movies. They ask me to be in major movies. I've been offered more than 50 reality tv shows I've been offered by some of the biggest reality tv stars in the world to do shows with them But coming here and doing live real feeds with you is so much more empowering. I don't want that I don't want to be a celebrity
Starting point is 01:03:40 I want to be a leader for freedom for the future But it is all about me now because if they can destroy in everybody's eyes Someone they know who they admittedly surveil who's under criminal investigation as a russian agent because I stand for america And have no russian connections if they can do that they can take down anybody Well, you just got really shocked. What's up? He just said he was under criminal investigation for For ties to russia. He's not That's what he thinks is happening They're investigating the bots that promote his content
Starting point is 01:04:13 Okay, and stuff like that. All right, the fbi has announced. There was that mclatchki article Yeah, uh, mclatchi, excuse me and they they were discussing that these russian bots seemed to time Uh, their promotion of info wars bright bar content and stuff like that to make a very high impact Whenever trump was going down in the polls when something bad was happening bad press for trump It seemed like all of these anti hillary pro trump articles from info wars Were being pushed really hard by these identified bots That were being used by russia. Wow that is they're good at strategy
Starting point is 01:04:50 Well, it turns out a lot of this stuff is really traceable, but they're using they're not bad They're not good at hiding their tracks. Right. That is a good strategy though. Well, but it's just like with that Syria hoax hashtag. It's really easy to track back who used it first because everything's time stamped because it's the internet Yeah, and in the same way you can google it in the same way you can pretty easily Identify these these fake accounts. It's pretty simple. And so alex believes That because the fbi is investigating info wars connection to these bots That they are investigating him being a russian agent and they're not This is more of him making himself into a bigger victim and a bigger martyr
Starting point is 01:05:29 Because it reinforces that other thing he said, but if they can do that to me they can do it to anybody Yeah, which is the last act of a coward when you're like if you don't protect me They're coming for you next when I deserve to become after Like I am a liar and a propagandist and my own 20 year game has caught up to me now at this point Yeah, and I have created an army of idiots who don't understand satire apparently We're buying my weirdo pills and bone sauce. Yeah, and now I and definitely not as vaccines No, certainly not info wars line of vaccines. Oh, they would be so good at what would they vaccinate clean vaccines No no viral content
Starting point is 01:06:12 whatsoever You know what they would be that they would be they would vaccinate you against fake diseases There would be some sort of like space disease that they would vaccinate you against that's I I I might buy a space or dr. Group would come in with some like weird fake disease Like you gotta you gotta get this. I mean, it's great. I've been studying for 15 years Yeah, we need bob duke on this one. Anyway, this is what cowards do That's you have this built up group around you and it's like fuck They're gonna turn on me eventually unless I make this a super emergency and it is gonna be a super emergency because
Starting point is 01:06:44 I mean he's Saying should he should not say well and once again once again. It's a it's a cult leader move too It's always going to be you know They're coming up to me your leader Yeah, because they're going to be coming after you the moment. I'm gone. I'm the only one protecting you It's an implied threat to yeah. Yeah, it's it's like jim jones Uh being like we all have to kill ourselves or else they're gonna get me. Yeah, absolutely Yeah, and it's not as it's not as severe as that certainly jim jones jim jones related
Starting point is 01:07:17 To alex jones exactly holy shit Has alex jones ever been in san francisco? Probably not the people's church. I would almost guarantee he's never been to san francisco. This next clip is weird This clip is alex not really understanding what Doing an act is he doesn't really understand it and then he gets a little bit sentimental And he gets lost in thought telling a story from his youth that is not true Sometimes I love alex jones. So I'll shoot a later video on this On the particular of am I an actor? That's ridiculous. The whole world's a stage. Each of us players upon it. William Shakespeare
Starting point is 01:07:59 It's not an actor I got my driver's license when I was 15 in a hardship He's had a job as a small animal vet And I'd pull up at the sonic and act tough in front of girls and say hey, let's go see a movie Yeah, I stuck my chest out. I Tried to act slicker than I probably was was it acting? No, I really wanted to date that girl. I really wanted to take her to the movies. I really wanted to kiss her Put my hand on her thigh
Starting point is 01:08:26 I really wanted to date all the cheerleaders and I did And the bad girls as well Punk rock girls, you name it long as they had a spring on their step I wonder was it an act that I kind of stuck my chest out and walked over like I was tough Yes, it was an act But my heart was a hundred percent behind it an act Could be any definition you want to be Everything we've done is about restoring the republic
Starting point is 01:08:50 Everything we've done is about empowering the people everything we've done is about being genuine Globalism is being exposed world governments being exposed the private fellow reserves being exposed their whole system Is being exposed right now and we're having victory after victory after victory and you are the leaders You've had the huge effect the world's changing because of you no matter what color your skin is your blood's red Like I say a thousand times you have to say that a thousand times a week. Yeah, also I would otherwise people might catch on Yeah, I would pause it also that
Starting point is 01:09:26 when you're in the middle of an ugly divorce And one of your arguments in court is that you're playing a character And then against the wishes of your lawyer clearly you get on air and you shoot a video Where you're arguing that you are not an actor It might not be best To talk about was I acting when I fucked every girl in my school? He said he fucked every girl Cheerleaders fuck them punk rock girls. I don't even give a shit. I'll fuck anybody. Yeah, he's like I got the cheerleaders Got them all bad girls too. We're what what the fuck is he talking about?
Starting point is 01:10:02 That's my favorite alex right there. I that's a great alex alex jones I got my license at 15 and that's when I started fucking everyone There's there's your clip media matters right there alex jones fucks alex jones the 15 year old sport fucker Going out there to the sonic with his chest out trying to Finger a lady at a drive-in. Yeah, I wanted to put my hand on her thigh. What is that gross? It is really gross. That's a really gross way of putting it. Yeah, it's it's very much so Yeah, but uh, yeah, again, that's that's unwise also. I'd be more comfortable with I wanted a finger blast a punk rock girl. At least that would be pretty great
Starting point is 01:10:44 also Much like him not understanding that what's at issue is not whether or not he was literally the joker Uh, we're also not concerned with you faking confidence in order to connect with other humans. That's not really what's at issue No, what's at issue is whether or not you're a rage-filled angry man Who can't be around his children? I do love I do love how he's like he he correctly cites William chase me. I'm glad I'm glad he I'm glad he did that Otherwise, otherwise, I might think he just came up with that off the top of his dome. Yeah, maybe maybe one of the most Famous phrases in the history of the world
Starting point is 01:11:26 I might have thought that alex jones thought that one up Well, his audience may be as dumb as he thinks they are that's possible I don't think a lot of them are into the bard I was I also like how he said that an act can be anything you want it to be which is like Hey, any word can be any meaning you want it to have doesn't matter words don't mean anything. This is what we keep coming back to Nothing means anything. Yeah, I I'm just a silly idiot for thinking that the actual definition of a word Is how you're supposed to use that word within the context of the sentence and that word Has a fucking meaning jordan. I've been an info warrior all along. This has been an act. Okay
Starting point is 01:12:02 I look and and i'm doing this to get chicks I thought it was weird when you dressed up like the joker because this is not a video podcast for our first 10 episodes That was weird. I shouldn't have done that. I just let that go. I just let that go I mean, I thought you were a good guy, but maybe you're not Take your vaccines, but and you know me You're down with OPP dress up like a joker. I don't give a shit. Yeah, whatever you're doing here on bedroom, which we're in That's true. That's true. Um, so this next uh clip Here is the one thing from the the divorce uh thing that I did read that I found very interesting
Starting point is 01:12:41 Okay, they said he broadcasts from his room. No from his house. No, I've seen people misrepresenting that too He has a giant studio that he broadcasts from but sometimes he does special reports from the home So like this was recorded in like a study in his house And sometimes he's in the living room and you know, it's he'll shoot like iphone video Yeah, stuff at home. So no, no his regular show is broadcast out of a warehouse. Right. He has a giant fucking studio Really? Yeah. Yeah. So that the people people who are like, hey You get mad at people living in their parents basement. You shoot your fucking show out of your home First of all, it's a flimsy argument second. It's not true. Yeah, okay. No, no
Starting point is 01:13:21 So sometimes he will videotape himself in his home like just about everybody on youtube. Yeah, but not his show show The show broadcasts every day I was I was I was really concerned about that because every time I've seen a picture of a studio I'm like Fuck he's got a room in his house for that. He has a smaller studio He broadcasts out of like on sundays and it's possible that that one would be in a basement or something like that It looks small enough that it could be but I I don't think so. I think it's just a secondary studio in his warehouse But yeah, no, anyway, the next couple clips are just him
Starting point is 01:13:57 Again, not fucking understanding what people are actually talking about with him being a character. Is he insane? Yes. Okay so When they then say i'm fake Because the national news plays me as the joker or me You know, this is like seven eight years ago now. I don't do this anymore You notice most of the videos on natural tv making fun of me, you know where i'm going. Oh my god. I'm gender. Oh, i'm gay. Oh I might have been bashing gay people there I just mean like people to go. Oh, i'm gay. Let you know let me get in your face and grandstand
Starting point is 01:14:29 Just like some fake christian. Let me grandstand and say you're going to hell I don't care if you're gay or a christian or whatever. It's like all these grandstanding people I would argue that his whole show is largely grand standing About people being dumb and not realizing there are globalists that walk among us and want to kill us Also, have we seen have you seen anything in the mainstream news that references him dressing up like the joker? Not a one thing. I haven't seen anything. No, so why would he mischaracterize so so here's what he's doing He is I think you I think you just got it. He's instead of instead of engaging with what it is They are saying about him. He is then pulling back on this one instance that is so unusual and so out of
Starting point is 01:15:12 Any context whatsoever that he's creating that false equivalency there in order to make it seem like what they're saying Which is reasonable is akin to him dressing up like the joker. Would you call that a straw man reasonable? Would you call that a straw man? I would call that a straw man. Yeah, he basically is using himself as a straw man Argument kind of it's so maybe he's brilliant. What is happening? No, because if he was actually doing that or like if he was aware of that and more in control He could make the argument better the fact that it's so confusing means that he doesn't understand Of course, I legitimately don't think I think from listening to this and especially I know where it's going Like I legitimately think that he he genuinely believes that's what they are talking about that sort of thing is what people are like
Starting point is 01:15:58 Oh, you're an act. No, I'm an act when I do this it's This is really ill advised so so you should get a better lawyer It's it's gonna it even gets worse either that or she he should get a lawyer That's willing to put him in a Hannibal Lecter mask It gets worse. There is one clip that I'm gonna play then if he went on a show he would call that an act There's no win. There's a clip. I'm gonna play towards the end of this just literally titled probably going to be used in court so
Starting point is 01:16:27 We've got that coming up Every clip is so far. Okay. Nevermind. Let's keep going Then they take clips on saying I'm anti-gay or I go I'm gay and then they play clip saying I'm gay and it's just like they're all taking it out of context so then I say You know when the feds show up or whatever. Well, is it really true you want to punch a congressman in the nose? And I'm like, no, he pissed me off I was angry it was a my dog just died, but also the feds showed up
Starting point is 01:16:56 Yeah, the fed showed up. Do you think so? They're investigating him for Russian ties But do you think you would ask him right? You'd be like, hey, do you have Russian ties? You got to tell us where the feds do you be like? No, so that would be the end of it. Do you think the feds showed up about that video where he said he was gonna punch Schiff because I don't think there's a chance No, I I can't imagine them having the time I I imagine most federal agents are busy. I can imagine them having the time I don't know man. There's a lot. There's a lot going on in the world
Starting point is 01:17:29 Yeah, but I don't think they're really interested on what's going on in the world anymore They would rather I think they're more interested in just some local dick weed fucking up alex jones's day That's what everybody's really doing. But based on as we know the feds work for the global No, because based on uh, his alex's whole premise Oh, that's right. The patriot feds are taking over. Yeah, so which feds showed up at his door It's probably part of the counter counter counter coup. Oh, there's so many coups going on How can you keep track of them? You can't you need a coup app if you guys fucking could program an app Get at me
Starting point is 01:18:04 Get at me if you can program We need a coup app You're a speech like how dare you meet me in the street, you know for saying that I don't not gonna literally I'm not really planning to go after adam chiff You know and all this crap, but you know They're investigating me with no evidence won't let me go before congress as a russian agent It's all over the damn news. It pisses you off So then I'm like, no, it's performance art. I mean, what is it when you say
Starting point is 01:18:33 I like to knock you upside the head Yeah, that's that again to my face. It isn't literal. It's like dude You don't want me to accuse you of say being a Child molester and I'm not accusing him of that Would you have in the past? But msm is so deceptive that they will cut that out of context and probably say I said that so you did It isn't about alex jones and that's what frustrates me the most It frustrates me too, but like this part of is like, okay, so it's it's a performance art
Starting point is 01:19:01 What is it if I say I want to attack you? Well, that's a threat. That's a literal threat. That's a threat Or like if you and I go out and I'm like, hey, I want to punch you really hard. You're not going to say wow That is really great performance art. That's a great piece. It's a great piece acting. Yeah So that would be at least a hypothetical threat. Yeah, uh, so then he's like dude What would it be if I said that you were a child molester? There would be slander. Yeah, so that'd be a crime That's not performance art either. It would be the crime. Yeah, you ever hear about crimes So I don't think he understands at all what anyone's talking about or what he's even talking about in the moment Is he is he just like a confused weird dude? I think he's not well right now
Starting point is 01:19:45 Like is he just is he just a very confused man just wandering around the world not understanding that like Every single moment of his life has been pure abject confusion over what is reality Yes Yeah, that's that's probably Well, I mean I want to I mean you got to assume that like around six he felt alienated because of his mother Rejecting him and saying he doesn't get love anymore. So around that age He probably started to feel these these real confused powerless feelings, right and that makes the world terrifying
Starting point is 01:20:21 Yeah, so you start thinking you're more grown up than you are you start reading military history books and not really understanding them Start to get childish ideas mixed in with some kernels of factual history Okay So you get this warped view of the world you get narratives that Don't exist filling in then around the age of 12 you find this kakamemi bullshit book None dare call it conspiracy. That's just basically Nonsense repackaged anti-semitism. Yep about the globalists and the dangers of socialism turning into communism And then you just happen then use base your whole life on it. Yes. Absolutely. I mean this is so simple
Starting point is 01:21:03 It it really is this simple next question a lot of the rest of the stuff is just window dressing When he gets drunk really bummed out now. Does he see pink elephants dancing? No, that's like in a like in a tech savory cartoon. No, that's like when he's hung over That's when he's like going through dts He's going through those delirium tremens. Oh boy. Anyway, alex is uh this next clip By the way, I think I just expressed what I would call the unified field theory of alex He's a confused man. Well, I think that like we have documented him saying all of these things Yeah, throughout the course of just four months of the show
Starting point is 01:21:40 Yeah, I think that you get a picture of someone who's Had a real tough time for the last 35 years. I wish there was an actual like I wish there was an actual Access to him where we could just like see what his fucking day is like. Well, I imagine I just want to I just want to wake up with him go throughout his day And I will wear a mask so as not to yell And then just follow him home and just like sit in his whole life and see what's going on there The the problem is that we would never be granted that access until
Starting point is 01:22:18 Until everything falls apart and then his life after that wouldn't be interesting. Yeah, then we could totally fucking I'm telling you this book we read is going to be great. We will have moved on to michael savage by then Admittedly in the book you will write all the information and then I'll have in the foot footnotes And that'll be it that'll be my contribution right see I've got a lot of work I feel like I'm doing the right thing at this one. Anyway, uh, Alex has more thoughts about how he is, uh truthful I have seen on court tv
Starting point is 01:22:49 juries in panels Oh boy, and I've seen them ask what the lawyers are trying to you know pick their actual jury I've seen the lawyers ask them on court tv and then in articles I've read They'll say how do you know the truth? How do you know fraud most juries say? Oh off their body language are off How good they look or how nice their dress. It's like no off the provable facts Is there an unelected e you Is there an unelected global u in are the i n f world bank and w to under the t p p
Starting point is 01:23:18 openly setting up world corporate government with a hundred trillion dollars taxes every decade paid to them Absolutely Did george soros go and c-span it and then he overthrew ukraine with five billion dollars a u s taxpayer money No elected government. Yes Did he admit he funded the arab spring and the islamic takeover? Absolutely. It's just search what I said They're pissed because I sit here and empower you I'm the opposite. I'm the anti fake news. He's the anti fake news after listing He just listed a long string of things that are not even remotely true
Starting point is 01:23:51 No george soros did have some hand in funding uh groups Uh, but he didn't fund the arab spring So he didn't create the arab spring. He funded the groups the global humanitarian ukraine no Oh, no, how about the arab spring? Did he no did he fund that? No Not all of it. So were those like people those are people. Yeah, yeah So they were kind of like mad at the authoritarian governments that they were part of and they were like No, I can't do this and some of and some of those groups may have gotten some money from george soros because
Starting point is 01:24:25 Like I said, he's a global. He's a global philanthropist. It's not like george soros called him up Like hey, this is george soros billionaires. Yeah, I don't know why I'm using that voice, but now Very inaccurate. Yeah. Yeah. No, I prefer the rockefeller voice for george soros from now on very hungarian But like yeah, all that shit all that shit is wack all that stuff is bullshit. Uh, the The the e.u. Is unelected all this all this nonsense a hundred trillion dollars tax Our state like our secretary of state is unelected then hooray. Yeah, like if you really want to like if you That's true. If you want to get in I never considered that I think we should vote for secretary of state right. I mean not every position
Starting point is 01:25:12 Do you know what's crazy? If we did that we would actually have a functioning secretary of god damn state It would be fucking filled with people who do their god damn jobs might be deputies um, but like uh, if you want to take a step back and not just use the examples that he listed, right There's the litanies of lies. I mean, and there's plenty of Yeah, come on. We have plenty on our website knowledge fight.com where we've documented the lies Nice plug. They have 30 off on visits to knowledge fight.com this you know what because it's easter. It's easy 100% off Jesus this deal has never been played before you could go to our website for free for free
Starting point is 01:25:51 Yeah, totally. We're not even charging like 20 cents for that spoiler alert. It's no longer easter So in this next clip alex is kind of right about something but he uses this brightness wrong He explains that the things that the media is doing right now the joke is on you The people who are listening and he is kind of right I always knew the joke would be on me Well, all of the all of the like out of context clips that people post about him It is kind of a sigh op against the people watching it because they do give the wrong impression of alex But again as we keep coming back to it's a better picture
Starting point is 01:26:28 Yeah, the him as a joke is a better picture than the reality of yeah A completely damaged man lashing out at the world through his audience with An inexplicable number of damaged people listening. Yeah, so anyway, here we go And they revel in it because they always say and talk radio be strong be confident never apologize. That's not who I am When we get something wrong sometimes every few months I'm sure it happens more when we catch something. I come and I say hey, I was wrong about that That's uh
Starting point is 01:27:01 He apologized about pizza gate because he got a letter from james ala fontis And he didn't really even apologize about that He still has not addressed the fact that uh that mosque shooter was a white dude in montreal Uh, he still has been peddling horrible lies about george soros being a nazi collaborator and even his sandy hook Stances now I'm just asking questions. There are a lot of questions to ask. There are a lot of questions to ask Yeah, and our guns bat. He still says that hillary clinton sold 20 percent of our uranium
Starting point is 01:27:34 To the russians is not true. He owes an apology on that. He owes so many apologies and he never corrects himself It's it's he's he's called a lot of people pedophiles A lot of them. Well, he calls them draculas to be fair. That's true. It's code. But yeah, he calls And ren fields. Yeah, he's made a lot of uh borderline slanderous claims about people and he's never really apologized And they take that as a weakness And then run around and say jones admits he's fake. He admits he's fake folks. That's a sigh up on you quite frankly I've become such a logo or icon
Starting point is 01:28:12 For resistance that their attacks on me Only make infor was better This is a big essential that's happening right now and i'm very humble about i'm on a power trip I want to see humanity succeed. I'm very humble about the planet itself But they want to wreck your mind where you don't believe there's anybody good in the world. So you don't have hope But you know you're good You know you have hope All the policies all the culture everything I promote
Starting point is 01:28:42 Human dignity and freedom not having cross human animal hybrids that the media makes jokes about but are all admitted Not having babies with six parents or whatever. That was dangerous crap That's fundamentally who I am That's fundamentally on my soul that I stand for but you already know that we're changing the world We're in this together. Of course. I believe what I say That's gonna be a problem. I stand against chimeras. That's gonna be a problem. I I swear to god. I bet he could win a governorship on I'm fucking just no chimeras
Starting point is 01:29:20 But you get do you catch at the end of that? It was a of course. I of course. I mean what I say That's gonna be a problem. That's gonna be a problem. You shouldn't say that She shouldn't say any of this stands again Did you notice human animal hybrids with which they turn into a joke but is all admitted What are you fucking talking about? It's not admitted But also like I love that that's like the second thing he comes up with after freedom Yeah, yeah freedom No human animal hybrids
Starting point is 01:29:51 I don't understand. Those are the two most pressing issues in my mind I've read all the articles that he uh has cited about chimeras and they don't say what he says they said Did you watch full metal alchemist though? I didn't see there you go. Okay. Well, maybe that's admitted May have my research is flawed. It's admitted that in japan alchemists Can create chimeras. Okay. That's just a fact fine human transmutation is bad though Just just as a heads up for anybody Don't transmit humans in this next clip. Uh, alex wrestles even further with the idea of what it means to play a role
Starting point is 01:30:27 And again, like I said, I didn't cut out anything in between these clips So they seem really disjointed because they are the entire video is available. I think it'll be taken down at some point I would hope so but uh, it's super disjointed like he's just he's not making sense So that's why none of this makes sense. Yeah, this is all in chronological order with nothing cut out Uh, this is this is wild Of course, I believe what I say unless they go clip devil's advocate things out where I interview myself
Starting point is 01:30:58 as The head of goldman sacks and I'm wearing a top hat and I'm saying really evil crap as I interview myself as devil advocate And I say no that's acting that's the skit to illustrate that nobody asked alex bald one When he goes and does his skits if you know is that exactly who you are Of course, he has politically who he is and what he does, but when he does a skit, you know, it's a skit So then I sit there like an adult that is an important and I see some of the public a lot of them just want to be victims They just want to go oh my god. He he says he's fake now I mean, what am I going to do about that? He had not done anything, but he's fake news
Starting point is 01:31:33 google Just got caught because they don't want to get sued with contractors saying delist us in huge contracts They just admitted that was true And they just said it was an accident because they saw my video where I laid out everything Nope, uh, they didn't and you're lying. Definitely didn't no, uh, that's just a perfect example of him being completely fake news Yeah, but then more importantly because that's not even all that interesting What is fascinating is this idea of him comparing himself to alex bald one who's an actor You know like yes, everyone knows the when alex bald one is talking about it taking brass balls
Starting point is 01:32:09 Well, as we all know All the world is a stage. So perhaps we are truly all actors. Did you consider that? I don't freeze in Is that even your real name mr. Freezin? I think that's how will I know? So dumb It's so dumb So pointless. How does he not understand? How does he not understand the difference? I don't know how is that possible not to understand the difference between an an actor
Starting point is 01:32:42 acting right him Saying that There's a pedophile ring under a pizza shop Well, I mean, let's even take that away because he's apologized for that now Just say that there's a let's say that the entire government works off a pedophile blackmail. Yes Yeah So that is your example instead of the pizza place
Starting point is 01:33:06 If you if you are going to if you're going if you're going to entertain this argument, right? Now here is his through line that he should use um So if you're listening a j I got you. I got your back. I like this. I like this workshopping now according to his own Uh words, right? He's Exaggerating and acting to show what he's against, right? So if you're going to call him describing everybody in the government working off a pedophile blackmail ring
Starting point is 01:33:40 And act then maybe you can say that he's just exaggerating it the same way that he played devil's advocate for As the joker or whatever the fuck he's doing. What did he dress up as the joker? Anyways, if he's going to do that, then that's his argument there that he is Amplifying it beyond what is a reasonable concept in order to demonstrate What he feels is the true evil beneath it, you know, like like you're you're uh, you're you're no like your comic book villain Okay, your comic book villain is an amplified version of whatever negative trait it is that you want that you want to describe you know, you have your You have your lex luther who is just an amplified billionaire who just takes things so far, which is all
Starting point is 01:34:29 Bruce Wayne is anyways. So anyways, so you have your amplified version Describing what it is that you're actually against. So hillary clinton herself Is a vampire squid in the same way that matt tiebe described it Way back when regarding golden goldman sacks, right? Do you do you see how that is? While not a good argument One that you could skate by on no, you don't think so Not really. Okay. So no because alex jones playing the role of the the villain or whatever. Yes
Starting point is 01:35:06 uh him yelling about the like the globalists use children as like uh Jesus there's there's really I I retract anything that I just said because I just heard yet again You say the globalists use children as currency, right? But there's no there's nothing to say against that But if he's if he's doing his joker thing where you know, like he's out there saying everyone should get vaccinated in order to make the Point don't get vaccinated. Wait, that's what he was doing. Yeah, that's what he was doing. You didn't get that That's why he thinks it satire
Starting point is 01:35:44 Because he dressed up as the joker. Yes And did exactly the opposite of what his point was So if he's doing that in the instance of the like pedophile sex rings and stuff like that He is so if he dressed up as no, no, no, I'm saying that if this is the parody Yes, and the point he's actually trying to make is that People in the government don't do this stuff Aha people in the government are pretty cool. Perhaps maybe he's trying to do a reducto ad absurdium argument Yes, he's not
Starting point is 01:36:15 No But this is a bummer. Wouldn't it be nice? Wouldn't it be nice if alex wasn't so fucking crazy And you said you weren't good at improv That is that is some whose line is it anyways level improv. I'm the Wayne Brady of this bit So a sentence no one has ever said before I'm going to skip this next clip because it's just about how he was right about syria and that's pointless And this next okay. So this next clip. Yes
Starting point is 01:36:50 This is really where I I think I would like us to Really absorb this clip because I think it's it's I think it's alex wrestling with the fact that his audience is stupid And he doesn't know how to do it. He doesn't know how to say I can't believe you guys Are this dumb? Yeah, and it's it's there's a lot going on here. Yes They know we're huge They want to convince you that we're small so you feel small And you feel like you got conned and taken into something. So I'm on air, you know, three four five hours a day depending on the day
Starting point is 01:37:24 Totally, you know, just being real like hey when I talk about subjects, it's totally real Chimeras when I'm getting into this article that article But sometimes if I go here, let me act like I'm a Rothschild Clearly I'm in a british accent and I'm being sarcastic Reading lord rothschild quotes on air. I'm not agreeing with lord rothschild. But what's crazy is I've almost killed all the satire And I gotta really think is the right thing to do or not because maybe it's powerful or they don't want that because People will sit there and say why is he
Starting point is 01:38:00 Wearing a wig saying he's a british professor Doesn't he know this is fake this what it's satire. It's like people don't know that so I go. Hey, I'm being an actor there I go. Oh my god, you're fake. Uh, you don't mean it's just like no I have a syndicated radio show as a pundit and analyst when I'm you know when I'm regular Alice Jones. That's real I'm a libertarian. I'm a patriot I I don't even know how the public doesn't even understand this it actually really depresses me that I'm sitting here Covering when I believe talking about what I believe then the news says look at him in a joker outfit
Starting point is 01:38:38 Saying he wants all kids to have a hundred vaccines and I go I'm being sarcastic people go. Oh man. Why'd you get fake on us? But see they're not even stupid. They want to act like They've been wronged and betrayed. They were never even listeners to begin with That's very weird. What it's very weird. What I think he is what? I What Okay, okay All right. All right. All right. What he just said that
Starting point is 01:39:08 What did he just say there? Well, let's try so so okay, so we start with we start with uh I love I love your foley work is truly inspiring Right. Okay The new york times He's killed satire. How do you kill satire? No, he's how do you kill satire? I think he's saying he's killed it with the satire. He's he's killed it with the satire. No, I think he I think he's saying No, because he's making the argument that like people attack it so much that they must be threatened by it
Starting point is 01:39:45 He he did say that here's my pitch. Okay, uh, what he meant was he can no longer do satire Because he has done it So well I think that might be I think that might be what we're going. Okay, so New york times videos all of it. They don't understand He dresses up in a wig And they don't get that and they're like, hey, man. Why are you doing that? Right? They don't understand it He's like, come on. It's satire. Don't you get it? Don't you get it?
Starting point is 01:40:15 When i'm not being satire of me i'm alex jones and i'm a libertarian also How is he being sorry? You can't be sarcastic At the same okay, this is all right. This is insanity. Here's the here's the last here's the thing that got to me All right, uh, he just said the listeners Weren't actually alex jones listeners. Mm-hmm. They were just listening Waiting for the moment That they could jump off. Mm-hmm because that was their whole goal in the beginning. They weren't stupid
Starting point is 01:40:51 They weren't listeners to begin with. Mm-hmm. Yeah Super weird. That's some classic cult leader behavior right there. They weren't really fans anybody who leaves is a surprise of person Who doesn't really who doesn't really care about the movement at all. They didn't get it They're not patriots secret globalists. They're secret non patriots. Yeah, or they're uninformed They're the un info warriors That's really what our show should have been called un info warriors. Oh, that actually would have been pretty good Uh, so this this next clip, uh This this next clip is starting to think he doesn't know
Starting point is 01:41:27 I think he doesn't know I think he doesn't think anyone knows what he's talking because they don't he's crazy He's a crazy person. I don't think it nobody knows what he's talking about except people with his exact same kind of schizophrenia And then really dumb people think he's smart, but it's actually not smart It's scattered disjointed thinking that appears kind of deep That's not But it's like if he lies about secret sources that he has why wouldn't dumb people believe him That is a good point All of the verifiable sources that he's ever cited have not said what he says they say
Starting point is 01:42:01 But I don't know about his secret sources I don't know. I did not consider his secret sources. Yeah, but you gotta be dumb to fucking believe an asshole like him And he has secret sources Fucking everywhere high level in I didn't know he had high level sources in google Not even that's a new one not even in google in the vendor company who google subcontracts. Yes. Yeah He's got them everywhere. He has a network of spies In every institution in the entire united states. Yeah. Yeah, it's a complicated web Oh, what a tangled web we weave
Starting point is 01:42:36 Shakespeare Damn it. You got there first. You son of a bitch. Uh, so this this next clip Will Shakespeare said that I don't know if you really I know you I know you said Shakespeare But I just wanted to make sure that our listeners heard that it was will Shakespeare. That's important now Obviously, I know him as bill. Yeah. Yeah I prefer to call him William Shakespeare This next because I'm nasty. I don't know. I don't know where I got that one. This next clip is Janet Jackson. Alex Jones doing Willie Shakespeare level versions of uh drama
Starting point is 01:43:10 Explaining that he's a victim now I'm not one to act like a wimp, but they've they know that's true. That's true. I've got a mental attack google's had his band off advertising um They got reporters following around everywhere just info crew operatives just scum of the earth just total inversion of reality Total lies just absolute whatever you read they say flip it. You've got it. I mean I mean literally I can't get into it later and walk them out, but it's it's just Popular
Starting point is 01:43:41 I mean, they are so scared as they implode skip it that they have just fully embraced the lie And it is it is beautiful and it's destructive just to them jones. It so uh The full attack is on us right now because because they know we've hit the zeitgeist because we've touched you You've touched us. You are the power. So spread the links info wars.com. The site's not even a beautiful site It's got great routers. We're updating and the video is the articles Why are they so scared of see think about why do they attack this? Why are they so against it? I can speak to that. Can you?
Starting point is 01:44:13 everyone's You know right thinking people are super against it because you lie all the fucking time. You're a bigot. Yeah, you are A cancerous force to dialogue pretty bad. Yeah, so that's why it has nothing to do with you being Right too real to write all the time has nothing to do with misunderstanding your sarcasm or your satire I get it every time I've seen you do something wacky. I get it and To our credit a hundred percent. We even said Like even with that shift clip He's drunk and he's an asshole
Starting point is 01:44:48 But there was no part of us that was like he wants to actually beat up shift. Yeah We defended it. We're like this isn't illegal. This isn't like this isn't his free speech He's just being a dick. Did you read the the clausterman book? But what if we're wrong? No The so in it he goes through all of these different Circumstances in the past where everybody agreed This is not true and then it was later proven to be true. All right now I occasionally have that moment with alex jodes. It's a natural
Starting point is 01:45:20 It is it is one of the one of the things that I constantly like Have to stop myself and just go Yeah, but what if he's right? Yeah, I have that moment until I research anything he talks about. Yeah. Yeah. No, he's an insane person Yeah, and then I'm like, okay. All right, but but Sometimes sometimes there's a part of me that's like God and here's the worst part Sometimes I wish he was right Like the world would be more interesting how much more fun with the like evil and horrific
Starting point is 01:45:51 And miserable. Well, but life would be so much more simple if we did have some sort of uh, you know Arch global evil group that we legitimately had to fight against. Yeah, because in that In that reality, we're all captain planet. Everyone could come together much easily much much more easily than it is We can now life would be so much less messy And it would be a lot more like the movie independence day, which is something I've always wished for Sure. I mean alex says I believe in the past also said that the government is likely to get a fake alien attack In order to uh unite the people as a globalist scam. How fun would that be? Anyway, that that last clip uh in his victim
Starting point is 01:46:35 Uh self-victim status claiming. Yes in there. He said, uh, You know, basically all these lies are gonna come out. I can't talk about it But it's all lies and you're all gonna see which is the beginning. He literally can't talk about it It's against the law. He can't even he shouldn't even say that he should be in contempt of court for talking about it That yeah is bad. Yeah. Now this next clip is way worse This next clip is like this If his lawyer isn't screaming at him about this That's a bad lawyer
Starting point is 01:47:11 And uh, I got the whole system coming after me coming after my family and it's just all a blessing I'm trying to take everything away from me. I got him hitting me on every front financially culturally family Uh, you name it and you know, what's great though. I'm just going up against it. No matter what happens I'm just cheering people up and all these other doors are opening just like the documents on google and more It's like everything you hit us with There's not just evil in the universe folks And that's why the enemy's so scared. They know genuine this let me see it And I'm genuine enough to tell you I'm ashamed of some of the
Starting point is 01:47:43 Things of my laziness and things I don't do enough sometimes, but I'm totally real I want you to have a future and I see how pathetic dumb down the public is and I'll sick the public is Under this attack and I get sad because I realize I'm a shadow of my ancestors as well And I'm just I want you to win I want you to win and I love you and I appreciate you and I'm a hundred percent real in what I say and what I do They just take out a context when I do satire joke around. So I gotta say no, no that's satire. That was a little Performance piece, you know where I dress up as a spy and I'm spying on people at coffee shop There's all those videos. They take those now. They show college kids. They go. This is fake news. Look, he's
Starting point is 01:48:20 He says this and now he says that there's no context He twice in there said that I am a hundred percent genuine. I am sincere He mentioned his family twice in that clip. He's talking about his troubles. He's clearly talking about this court case Yep, he again hammered in I am very serious about everything except for these times That I play characters. Yeah, and that's gonna be a real problem. That's not a good idea. It's not good He should really take this down. Mm-hmm Well, it's gonna be on our podcast now. It's a good thing that we're gonna be available to testify. Yeah so
Starting point is 01:48:58 that the end of that clip talked about how they teach college courses about like fake news using his Uh, you know his stuff. Yeah, they should that'd be a good idea. Absolutely But then we should all learn more about fake news that transition. How can you learn more about fake news knowledge fight.com I think that's a good place to go. Uh, so this this is our final clip coming up here And it it weaves in from that last clip. Uh, and then it is Very insulting to people who disagree with him He says some really funny things and then at the end. I think he gets into an existential crisis about whether or not he is in fact real Of course, so this whole time
Starting point is 01:49:43 Oh, man He doesn't believe he's real. Well, this whole time he's been going on and on he believes he's a hologram No, it's not so much that it you'll see you'll see. All right They take those now. They show college kids. They go. This is fake news. Look. He's he says this and now he says that There's no context because the public's so brain damaged And and we those of us that aren't brain damaged can't be on a power trip enjoying the elite We have to go. Oh my god, the public's so brain damaged. They were putting cribs and never held. They weren't breastfed Like you they're real just little babies real scared
Starting point is 01:50:15 Disassociated or looking for a mommy or looking for a daddy like you don't want to be their mommy or daddy We want to build them up and help them info wars.com forward slash show And I want to thank all the leakers that helped expose google censoring us But if we just accept their official story that oh, it's an accident. We're going to stop now They've admitted they're doing it. They just don't want any resistance building to it. It's a too late google Fill your hand. They'll have a federal investigation saying Doesn't mean I'm being fake. It means give us your full attack. Let's go
Starting point is 01:50:44 politically You're not physically peaceful Everything but it's okay. You understand info wars.com forward slash show spread that link He does not know what he's saying. No, he is all over the map I think we got it. I think we got to play like just the end of that because it starts with the fill your hand Yeah, fill your hand. They'll have a federal investigation saying I mean pull a gun that's a figure of speech Doesn't mean I'm being fake. It means give us your full attack. Let's go politically
Starting point is 01:51:11 You're not physically peaceful and they misrepresent everything but it's okay. You understand info wars.com forward slash show spread that link He does not know what he's saying. No, he is all over the map That's just in 10 seconds. He's saying fill your hand. Yeah, now. I gotta be clear. I'm not talking about a gun talking about metaphors allegedly, I mean Give us your full attack politically That not physically he says politically peacefully. Give us your full peaceful attack. You guys get it Don't don't fill your hand info wars.com slash show
Starting point is 01:51:45 Fill your hand turn off the goddamn camera fill your hand.com slash info wars slash show We got to get fill your hand.com. Oh my god Oh Fill your hand.com links directly to knowledge fight Jordan. I gotta be honest This has been one of the most arduous episodes we've done I don't know why but for you somewhere in the middle. I lost it I lost I know you you cut out like probably at least four or five clips, didn't you like three I lost my interest in talking about this episode. You've never cut off three clips before
Starting point is 01:52:20 I'm so bored By this not not the again great sales pitch. Well, not like the I'm fascinated by his Version of what is real like that sort of thing. Yeah, that's a philosophical argument that we could have for years Like exactly what is the nature of We're not even gonna play clips anymore. We're just gonna constantly discuss whether or not We'll go to reality is and we'll get like University of Chicago professors to come in and discuss Nah, fuck those guys fake news. Uh, but like that to me is endlessly fascinating this idea of People are attacking me. I'm misrepresenting what they're attacking me about and twisting it into something else. That's fun
Starting point is 01:53:04 The google narrative on its own is fairly fun But the two of them mixed together When we know that what's underneath so much of it is this divorce It just isn't fun for me. This is the central question Does he actually believe that what they are attacking him on is that Clip of him dressing up as the joker. No, does he truly believe that he can't right? I think that I think he has a bad lawyer maybe
Starting point is 01:53:37 Or he actually has five lawyers or he might not have and she has three lawyers He might not have listened to legal advice then because I think that he can't possibly I think that his lawyers know what's best for him and they Use this argument of its performance art as a way to do like it's not true he's not a performance artist, but If they are going to bring in info wars into a custody battle and a divorce trial That's your angle. It's the only way to excuse the violent outburst. It's a perfect angle and it's a very smart one Right, but it doesn't play To his insecurities about losing his audience is a fucking lunatic, but no for alex to his audience
Starting point is 01:54:17 It doesn't play no in his own mind. He knows he has to defend himself against that and he Again, I don't think he could have listened to his lawyer's advice, but And he thinks he has to play both sides of it Yeah, it's a very thin line that he's trying to walk between I am a performance artist when I do stuff you don't like and I am a serious person when I do stuff You do like now. That's what he's saying to the court. Yes, but he's saying to his audience That he's never a performance artist unless he's dressing up as the joker. Yes, gotcha And then the rest of the time i'm alex jones good old classical liberal slash libertarian god
Starting point is 01:54:55 So yeah, he's a fucking lunatic That's what that's more interesting That's way more interesting to me Than even his bullshit. Yeah, like that bullshit argument is not that's just Like I don't want to poke holes in that. I hope he succeeds All right. Well, that's weird. I don't want his kids being taken away from him No, I don't believe well, they're not vaccinated. Well, look Fine, but they don't
Starting point is 01:55:24 That's bad, but that's not my choice to make You know, I think I think it's wrong, but it's not my choice Right, I don't have any evidence and if there were evidence that he was abusive I don't think he should have his kids. Absolutely. No, but there isn't any evidence of that really Not that we're aware of I don't know that his son doesn't want to Moonlight at info wars over the summer. I don't know that that's not the case. Right when I was 13 14 I would go to my dad's office And hang out with him at the university
Starting point is 01:55:55 So like I don't I don't know that his son is any different and doesn't want to just go hang out at the info wars office I mean, yeah, that makes that makes perfect sense. At that age you're you're doing your dad thing and you you want to make him Yeah, yeah on the one hand it could look like indoctrination, but on the other hand it could just be completely innocent And if you're gonna make the indoctrination argument fucking if your parents are christian, they should be you know, right get it get them out Yeah, there's a long there's a long road to go down. Yeah, exactly So I don't want it I don't necessarily want his kids to be taken away from him
Starting point is 01:56:30 And if the argument that needs to be made in order for him to keep his kids is that he's a performance artist Then by all means go for it Because realistically that is what he's doing But you are kind of saying you are kind of saying that it is all right for him to lie to keep his kids. Yes I do agree with that in open court. It is all right to lie. Well because it's not really a lie It's a it's a murky. All right. It's a murky area of perception Right because the real talk he is a performance artist in as much as he's a propagandist Okay, he is not really necessarily
Starting point is 01:57:11 But then all the things that he presents then the argument has to come down to intent And that and that again is our central conversation that we always go back and forth on inexplicably is whether or not he intends to do these things or Not so if he is a performance artist, then he is Intending to be this insane in order to dupe people if he is a propagandist He is intending to dupe people with this information But if he's a believer Then
Starting point is 01:57:51 What does that mean? Well, I mean there there are people who sell junk products Yeah in the world outside of info wars fucking fox news info wars Yeah, but like there are people whose entire existence is about selling a shitty product Yeah, like I don't think they should have their kids taken away just because they trick people into buying things They don't need that's true. So if at the end of the day his although imagine if donald trump's dad Had had donald trump taken away from him what What a better world. Well, I mean maybe maybe the world we live in isn't inevitability and some other rich kid would have ended up being president That is a good point. But be that as it may that's we are in the darkest timeline. That's irrelevant. That's irrelevant. Yes
Starting point is 01:58:34 I don't think necessarily I don't know. It's it's it's so confusing, but like Legitimately, I believe that he is a real person and at the same time he is putting on an act So both arguments are kind of true Yeah The idea that he's saying this in court in order to not have his kids taken away makes total sense to me And I'm not against it at the same time him coming on the air and saying I am real
Starting point is 01:59:00 This is me. It is contradictory to what he's saying in court just on its face But it's yet at the same time it is not contradictory because he is in his capacity as a performance artist Exactly. So as a performance artist, you would absolutely say that while you were performing But you would never say that in your real life possibly There is no untangling that performance artist web Just like your gordian knot of a microphone cord. Yeah, absolutely It's it's a whole mess and what's more important to me
Starting point is 01:59:35 I think Is love No Fair enough I don't know what point I want to make here I I really don't I I worry Not worry. I am comforted by the fact that
Starting point is 01:59:54 alex jones is inscrutable until we can actually spend Months upon months talking to alex jones in a personal setting. Sure real life Well, one day there will be like we'll do a the jinx style Serious. Yeah, we have to yeah, absolutely. Yeah, and we should talk to his wife and everything Like we should talk to everybody involved with alex jones's life because he is such an endlessly fascinating
Starting point is 02:00:22 Evil monster. He is. Yes. Like like he's he's our version of a true crime novel Where you you go back through Fucking, you know Any serial killers life and go back through step by step how all of this crime wound up happening Where this guy comes from what kind of and there's always that element in a serial killer's life where you look at their childhood And you go oh, oh, that's there's yeah, there's there's always that point like to me alex jones is a serial killer that Is is expressing his serial killing in a different way. So he's a very fascinating figure that is both
Starting point is 02:01:04 somehow empathetic and monstrous to a degree where you you think How can this happen to a human being and at the same time This human being should not be allowed to be anywhere near other human beings Right because they're a monster like it's so it's so weird to see the push pull of what is wrong with this man And a part of me that is like maybe the most cynical part of me Wonders if he drops in those little pieces about his his tragic life And doesn't present them as tragic in order to make people like us
Starting point is 02:01:40 Take an empathic. Oh, that is too cynical for me. And I'm the most cynical That is that is one. Here's my problem. But you know what that would be a great performance artist It would be a great performance artist. It would be it would be kafka's the hunger artist. Yeah, but go ahead um I'm not I'm not going to deny that based on my cynicism I'm going to deny that based on the genius level talent it would require To drop in those at certain intervals For such a short period of time and in such a genuine way and make it really seem like you're struggling
Starting point is 02:02:17 Yeah, that story of his mom kicking him off her knee. That's true. Yeah, that's true Regardless of whether or not it ever happened To him that is a formative moment in his life. Yeah. Yeah And it is I think maybe the rosetta stone like we said it it kind of unlocks a whole lot But at the end of the day, uh, as we wind this down um The the stuff that's going on with his divorce is is tragic For all parties involved, especially the kids
Starting point is 02:02:49 Nothing worse than a divorce battle. We should not uh, don't get married vaccinate your kids. Don't get married. Uh, also like Let's Let's try as a society to resist the urge to mock about this Stuff mock him for what he deserves to be mocked for We in this episode have mocked him about his lies That have come straight out of his mouth We've mocked him about him not understanding satire and we've mocked him
Starting point is 02:03:18 For saying things that are going to end up in court and Correctly quoting wilshbake wilshbake wilshbake spear wilshbake spear. Yeah, so those things are great. They're fun. They're fun, but It it it really kind of to me it does it also makes him a more empathetic figure the divorce. Yeah man's just trying to keep his kids Yeah, and his wife has been Uh, denied custody multiple times which suggests there's something else going on there Suggest there might be a reason but again, it's all this stuff. We don't know No, there's a whole mess that we can only speculate on and no we can't
Starting point is 02:03:59 No, they're well, right. I meant as a as a as a culture. Yeah, your mind reels. Yeah, exactly And to me like the first thing I heard the first thing that I felt whenever I read about his his custody battle was not Oh, he calls himself a performance artist. It's Based on all the stuff that we've talked about and all the stuff that that we've heard He might be a good dad And I felt for him. I was like maybe
Starting point is 02:04:32 Maybe he is a good dad. You know, it's fascinating that we do a podcast about him being a propagandist and we hate him But at the same time everybody else who heard this news couldn't wait to tee off and make fun of him about stuff Yeah, and our immediate response was you thinking he's possibly a good dad And me I mean, obviously my first thought was these poor kids. Yeah, like this is drawn out for years. This is No, I I agree. No, no, I mean, I don't want to I mean, I hate children. So I don't give a shit. I hope they I don't give a shit and my my immediate thought was I mean, it wasn't Joy
Starting point is 02:05:14 No, it wasn't like I can't wait to make fun of this. No, this is bad This does not make me feel good. This makes me feel like I've gotten more messages about this Than anything that's ever happened to me. Oh, absolutely. It's like Alex. Joe's getting divorced. What do you think about this? Yeah That's not bummed out. That's what I feel about it. I feel bummed out Well, there's no real possible winners either. No, like no matter who wins this court case. It doesn't like Alex Jones still has to be Alex Jones for the rest of his life He's he's never gonna get help no matter what happens. Now. Here's here's the better speculation for you and I all right. All right
Starting point is 02:05:52 Um, if this is what takes him down Is that a net positive? Like is it does it do I mean, well ultimately this is the do the ends justify the means I mean your your argument is is based on like a false presumption because it won't end up taking him down This is nothing. I mean, you know, take his money away. Take all of his stuff away Take his kids away. It breaks him as a man. It won't It won't I I That's not our speculation. I know but no
Starting point is 02:06:28 I don't think Look, I mean, I guess what it comes down to is no the ends wouldn't justify the means He should be taking down for being a propagandist. Yes a monster a bigot someone who has incited violence who has caused damage to hundreds if not More lives and that's not what this child is what he should be taking down for Not the fact that in his trial He's trying to defend himself by calling himself a performance artist. Right. There are tons of nazis who are good parents
Starting point is 02:07:01 That's true. There are tons of people who are completely evil people who loved their kids And we're capable parents now granted they raised them in systems that led them to possibly also be nazis Well, I mean christians again. Sure. So, I mean, that's not it's I just I hate I hate the idea of A custody battle being played out publicly first of all and then second of all It being used as some sort of punitive thing Yeah, like I would hate the idea of society treating it like oh, alex all this shit you've done on the air Here's your punishment. You don't get your kids
Starting point is 02:07:40 That is a bummer. That's horrible And I think a lot of people feel that way and that to me Like as much as I hate alex. I hate that standpoint way more. Yeah, because that Here's here's the weirdest thing Uh Well, not the weird. This is the most novelistic thing Nobody hates alex jones more than we do
Starting point is 02:08:03 for more Accurate reasons at the same time right now. It feels like We're the only people who empathize with him because I don't think his listeners are empathizing with that I think they're saying that it's a conspiracy against him generally. That's the sense that I've gotten maybe the only people Like us I mean, I think on one level we might be the only people who care about him In that we want to see him get the fucking death penalty for the right reasons I know I know no that was a metaphorical speech. I'm not telling him to fill his hand
Starting point is 02:08:43 Listen, I'm in a weird place as a whole but like yeah, I think that there's a decent chance that we're the only people who have uh a robust Fair perspective on him. Anyway, uh, sorry Sorry, we didn't talk about fun, uh, divorce shit, but uh, you can go find that at every other website Yeah, yeah, you didn't come to us for the same shit other people have so to sum it up This video will probably be taken down from the internet at some point Uh, if anyone if he has a good lawyer if anyone's smart, uh, I think alex will might be off the air for the next few days I would assume that his lawyers would be like get fucking paul joseph watson and i would hope so
Starting point is 02:09:25 Uh, and then uh, google is not trying to delist them. That's stupid Um, but anyway, let me ask you a question google is trying to delist knowledge fight dot com No, shit. Did we get a an official letter? Mike sernovich told me. Oh, that's son of a bitch secret sources Nobody breaks more truthful and more huge stories than mike. You know what else they're trying to delist twitter.com slash knowledge underscore fight Please don't ever at Knowledge underscore fight. Also, they're trying to delist our gmail account. You can reach us at knowledge fight at gmail dot com I'm telling you right now. Our subscribers are going down
Starting point is 02:10:06 Uh, because of apple. They're censoring us. That's true. So the only way to fight against this is to subscribe subscribe again I don't know. I don't know guys You can subscribe to us on itunes. We're super fun And uh, realistically we have actually been getting a lot of new listeners lately and thank you and welcome aboard But uh, you know jordan until next time Are we a couple of uh policy books? We are Andy and kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding So alexa my first name color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you

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