Knowledge Fight - #31: April 17, 2017
Episode Date: April 20, 2017Today, Dan tells Jordan all about a Special Report that Alex Jones released on Monday, April 17th. Topics include: Did Alex breach his gag order on air? Is Google actively delisting InfoWars? How com...plicated are Dan's feelings about how to deal with Alex's custody trial? Did Alex bang all the girls in his school at age 15?
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Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding
So Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight
I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We are a couple of dudes. I like to sit around and drink wine and
dabble and have some dalliances and the
the uh, the soft and
mellow waters of Alex Jones. I don't know what I'm saying. That was that was out of control right there
That was wild
What are you talking about? I don't know, but it's wild times in the world of Alex Jones
And uh, you know, so we're here in the middle of the week coming down
Having a chat with you. This is a show where we take a day in the life of Alex Jones and we break it down piece by piece
But let me ask you a question. What's up?
How much do you know about Alex Jones so much? Okay
I'm gonna be honest with you. Please be be Alex Jones levels of honest with me. I am 99 sure sometimes I make a mistake
But I am 99 sure I know nothing about Alex Jones and therein lies the fun of the show
I get to shock and offend you with the
the words of Alex Jones and uh, not out of context which would have been a much better campaign in iraq the
shock and defend campaign
Just go up to all these are either with awe. Uh, uh, let's call their moms gay. Let's do
And then yell at them for being offended by it. Yeah, you're offended. You're doing oh come on my rights
Come on free speech. Yeah cupcake. So before we get going go to your safe zone
Go to your demilitarized intellectual zone. Yeah, let's go start calling that
Uh, before we get going, I have a couple of thank yous first again
Like to thank Mike Kaplan for joining me on the last episode was super fun to interview him
And this is coming out Wednesday. You can still go see him tonight at shubas tavern here in chicago if you're in town
Just want to say that again and say thank you again. It was super super cool. Sorry. You couldn't be there jordan
No, no, you're not
That would have been a weird interview if I was there. I'm not I'm not I'm not supposed to be there for interviews
If I was there, I'd just interject like he talked and it was very cogent and interesting
I still felt weird. What am I going to do laughing at him? What could have you could have
Also, I'd like to say thank you to our new friend david. Thanks for donating to the show. This one's going out to you
I'm a policy wonk
That was just for you
Whenever someone donates now you give a
You get a little policy walk give them their own policy. You are your own policy. You're officially a policy wonk david
Thanks for joining up
It does not take a lot of work
And if you guys want to donate there's a link on
Knowledgefight.com says support the show you can check that out or just go to patreon.com slash knowledge fight
But there if you want to donate, please do if not, you don't have to anyway
Great sales pitch speaking of donations. Alex might need some in the future. Oh
Transition game is still strong still tight. Um, I want to make this statement clear
I said at the beginning of the last episode and I stand by it
I really don't think that we have any business talking about his divorce
I agree and I don't like what I'm seeing on twitter. I don't like what I'm seeing in terms of
Articles on unnamed websites. I don't like the takes that I'm seeing
I really don't like people dancing in the mud as it were
It's it's weird to see because the the hot take machine
of the internet is so
so ridiculous where it's like
You you fly off as little bit as little of your
You know knowledge is possible. You just uh, alex jones denied sandy hook. Like yeah, that's awful and miserable
But oh my god, he's done so much more. He's so much more of a monster
It's like if you have a band that you know a lot about and they're like people only know their greatest hits right right
But it's like chicago, but it's like the band chicago. No, but it's the reverse
Oh, it's the reverse of the band you only know their worst songs
So all these people out there, they know alex jones worst hits
Whereas like he has a deep catalog guys
You should really get into some of the the album cuts the b-sides. Oh, yeah, there's not just uh, you're the inspiration
It's not just saturdays in the park. These are chicago songs. Oh boy
It's not just 25 or 64
God it's a great song. I didn't know you knew so much about chicago. I know those three songs every time we find out more about
Your music taste. It's just it's just getting weirder and weirder. There's more to life than just does anybody really know what time it is
Uh, it's another great chicago song
Anyway, I really really really want to encourage people to stop paying so much attention to the divorce stuff
Because a lot of it is his business. Yeah, and a lot of it is not really
Uh, necessarily
Real in our in our world. Do you know what I mean? I don't okay. Well, I would like to know more
A lot of it is I mean actually I do but please explain it to the listeners
It's a lot of it is personal. We don't really know the dynamics that are going on in his household
We don't know anything about his ex-wife. We don't know anything about that world
and
And we've studiously tried to avoid it. Yeah, and because it isn't our business and it would be tasteless of us to
to delve into that
Now the reason that everybody's interested and the reason that things became
Immediately interesting to people about this was his lawyer said that he's playing a character
Yes, and that was the defense that they used or were intending to use
Yeah in the in the trial and the reason that this isn't even interesting really is that he makes that claim
Across the board on his own show
Whenever he wants to dodge responsibility for something as in the case when he screamed about beating up adam schiff
He said that his rants were performance art or their jokes
He said he was joking about so many other different things like oh, I was just you know
Everybody else was was doing it. So I made a joke about it in that whole thing
He does that all the time and if you are talking about his listeners like you're not
You're not actually engaging with why it is they listen to alex jones. They do not care
No, probably don't care
No, you're never and if he says he's a performance artist that to them is as much a wink as it is a
It's not an admission of of guilt or that he doesn't believe in what he's saying
It's just him being like hey guys
I'm a performance artist to get my kids like that kind of at best. It's that at worst
The audience would believe the globalists are trying to torpedo his family
And he's just doing what he's got to do of course sometimes that means you have to
You have to lie to protect your family
Yeah, and of course and the timing of this could not be more perfect for for everybody to yeah
Yeah, it's especially if you are a globalist
Let's say you're a globalist now is when you strike
That's the trick, you know alex jones. He was nothing. He was nothing to the globalist for a long time
He was just a thorn in their side now that he has some power
That's when you uh back his ex-wife. I don't know. I don't know what's going on there
I don't either and that argument falls apart because the divorce has been going
Oh, oh an argument about the globalist being real fell apart. Yeah shocker
I especially falls apart because the divorce has been going on since 2013, but
Look, there's a lot of salacious fun stuff that you could make fun of but we choose not to do that
We choose not to engage in that because we sincerely believe
The taking alex based entirely on his words and researching his words is a much
Much more scathing attack
And it's something that he can't deflect from and hopefully hopefully something that if his listeners were to actually
Engage with us. They would like there wouldn't be an argument back
There wouldn't be something that they could say they might actually be like, oh that maybe does make sense
It depends on how deep cognitive dissonance goes, but I mean, I'm not saying a lot of them would do one or two
Yeah, I'm saying we could siphon off one or two alex jones listeners. Listen. I'm not captain save a hoe over here
That's not where I'm at. That's not my business. I'm not trying to necessarily convert his flock
As much as I am trying to
I don't know. What are we doing?
That is a good
Fucking question is the goal to convert alex jones listeners or is it to like I guess make a time capsule
I don't know what we're doing. I think we're establishing our eventual
multimillion dollar book deal with simon and shuster bingo where we
We review the uh 2016 election through the eyes of alex jones. That might be what we're doing anyway
Either that or we're just masturbating into the void. That's way more likely
That's probably the best way to go. So you touched on it and that's uh
A subject that will be what this episode is. This is episode part two in a
Indefinitely long series that I would like to call how not to cover alex jones
When you do stuff like uh the obsessing about him
Or it wasn't even him. It was his lawyer saying that he's playing a character
Right when you obsess over stuff like that and you clown on him real hard like media matters has
And all these websites these pop culture websites
All these people on twitter when you obsess about this stuff that comes out in his divorce
All you're doing is playing into his hands
My evidence for that is the episode we're going to be listening to today
It is from monday your your evidence could just as easily be trump
Sure
Like did did all of our relentless mocking take him down? No, it only made him stronger
Because apparently the i'm rubber your glue
Uh
Fucking works the meaner meaner defense. Yeah. Yeah
Uh, so you're just mad because you lost me
This is an episode from april 17th
It is a special report that he put out in the evening and I will say I think it was
Unadvised of him
I think his lawyers probably should have stopped him from recording this
Because I think he touches on some stuff that may come up in court
And look, I don't care about like respecting his personal life when he brings stuff up
That's the line for me. That's a good point. I will dance around in his personal life when he says it
He's the one but well, and we're we're putting together a uh a slow but sure biography of him
Of course, and there is uh, there is a new entry in this episode which is get excited for that
I am uh, but when you just kill another dog christ
No, that monster. Nope, uh
When you attack that should be in his fucking trial
He said he murdered a dog
But that's put that in his trial
That is one step away from murdering all four of your children. Jordan. That's hair. That's hearsay. That's
It's him say he didn't. All right. That's my favorite thing. I've ever said right there. Him say that's perfect
It's yours. That's him say. Yeah. Yeah, that's her say. What do you want? Uh that no the reason it's hearsay is because
He doesn't actually say he killed a dog. He's just saying
You kind of sometimes have to kill a dog
All right, how about the time he uh put a guy in a coma and knocked all of his teeth out?
Oh, yeah, that's bad. That should be in that should be in there
It definitely shows a temper but he is talking about when he was younger and who cares look we're not here to plan a prosecution
Maybe that is what we're here to do. So this this episode all I've done he put out a 23 minute video all I've done is cut out
Like a couple gaps here and there
And a couple plugs. So it's a couple times. He says info wars.com. Yeah, joseph watson's gonna be hosting
Yeah, I cut that out. I've cut out nothing of substance 30 off of whatever. There's 30 off Easter sale still going on as we record this
I knew he was gonna get that I knew he's gonna get that in there
But this is what happens when you don't actually engage with alex on his level what he's talking about
This is the sort of thing that he can do to spin his way out and still keep his cult intact ladies and gentlemen
Here we go. Here's the introduction. You see that headline
Google says rogue vendor violated guidelines by asserting contractors to rate info wars is untrustworthy site
That's business insider google responded
Less than 24 hours after this broke on mike sternovich's website and also on ours
ladies and gentlemen
All we do is break cutting edge inside intel from our amazing sources leakers and patriots
So that's the first clip he shows uh video opens with him holding up his cell phone. It shows this uh
Business insider article great that he believes
That is riveting television indeed indeed a man holding up his phone
Pointing to an article you cannot read nope with just the headline
I'm sure totally and you can't read can't even read the headline in the video
No, I would you need to but this he's holding up his phone
You can trust him. This is a continuation of a narrative that got started a little bit before this
I believe like on the sunday episode
Of the show with mike sternovich mike sternovich was discussed on our last episode. He is stuck around austin great
Because he's a giant pile of shit
No, it's a fall into each and every fucking crevice of your shoe as you walk by him. No, no, no
No, is it for a different reason? It's for a different reason. Oh, okay, because he's broken a huge story
Uh, okay, and that is that google is
Trying to censor and delist info wars from their search engines really no
No
Okay, but that's his story
That's his story that would be an interesting story and at this point it is I like I could kind of
I could kind of believe it like based on all the stuff we've talked about
I'm not saying that that could happen or would happen because you know, whatever. Yeah, but
I could I could almost see that being the case
Well, one thing that is important to consider and this is just google policy. This is company policy
Uh, if a site is being delisted
They have to give a formal letter to that company. So if alex jones was legitimately being delisted
He would have
Evidently proof he would have that letter from google. So that's not happening. So it's
It's entirely impossible unless he pulls out the letter now keep in mind
All he does at info wars is break massive stories
That are truthful
By his own words right there. That's what he said. This story is bogus as fuck right
So do you want to know the truth?
Should we wait until this develops a little more?
Yeah, I don't I don't need to know the the nuts and bolts. I want to see where he's gonna go
All right, that's a good point because sorry google has admitted though that they are
Hiring or have hired excuse me 10,000 people to go around delisting stuff on the internet
They say is fake news or spam. That's the big story info wars is not the story
If they can censor you they can censor me what should be prominent is what you upvote
What actually gets the best uh ratings what people promote if there's fake bots fake spam
Fake view counts. Absolutely. Google has a right to block us. So they should block info wars then
Maybe
Maybe I mean they do have a lot of artificial traffic
They sure do they him and paul joseph watson both have
outrageously high numbers of uh fake twitter followers
Based on you know twitter audits that have been done. Uh-huh. So, I mean, I mean look, I don't know. I don't I
That I that argument isn't going to do it for me like his own argument for why something should be censored
That's not enough for me. Of course. Of course. No, but let's uh, you know
10 how they hired 10,000 people. I don't know. Why don't we let him hang himself a little more before we get to the facts?
That was your plan. Let's do it. Okay. All right. Hold on to the 10,000 numbers. All right
the ladies and gentlemen
High-level google administrators. How does he know?
Told our sources and cernovich showed me the sources all over he trusted me
I was able to see the whole data trail. You name it one of the sources for at least multiple years
Cernovich is great because he just works his contacts. He's a real journalist. He's amazing
He's he's helped info wars so much with the stuff. He's been doing so we're just you know
So probably work he's doing breaking the susan wright's news and
The susan wright's news was a bogus story also. Yep. That was complete bullshit
Also another fun news story that mike cernovich broke
Over the weekend was he went to one of these the tax protests because he was in austin right
So he didn't have to be
In berkeley where he might get his ass correct correct
He was in austin at the tax protest
He was counter protesting as it were and he had sure he put out a video of him with his cell phone
On himself doing like a like a selfie periscope video and he's like they're attacking me and there's a bunch of people
Like you can see behind him
There's another guy who caught another angle of the video as far away as humanly possible
He's like across the street, isn't he? No, it's just like a couple people who are like
Come on. They're just sort of moving him out of the way
And he's walking in front of them while they escort him out of the protest area shooing him with a broom
And it's so funny. It's so out of here little boy
It's so funny to see the long view of him acting like he's in the middle of a huge crowd that's beating him up
Or trying to assault him. It's just a couple people who are like come on man
And not even really pushing him
And he's just like uh, it's he's the worst he was doing
He was doing everything possible to try and incite something there
Of course he was and knowing that it probably wouldn't happen. He was doing things to
Rig the appearances to make it look like he was being right
Somehow oppressed. They don't want my free speech
I mean they don't of course not
I want him nobody's nobody's arresting him though. I want him to have free speeches if I were there. I wouldn't want him there
Yeah, yeah, yeah do that over that over there
That's literally every possible situation where Mike Sartovich is there. Yeah, even if he's I don't want him there
Wherever he is. Anyway, he broke the Susan rice story huge according to alex not huge
Truthful world. Well, I mean it is truthful, but the context of it is is completely meaningless
Yeah, she was the national security advisor. All right, so we do have a confirmation
That he did tell the truth
So we got one on the board from Sartovich. I don't agree with that. I think he told
He said some truths and then lied about the interpretation of them which makes it a lie
Yeah, or maybe he's just an idiot. Well, no because I could say hey, you're wearing a like a green blue hoodie
That means that you are a coward
I don't know my brain wasn't doing good with it coming up with with ideas
My point is that I did color of your hoodie is true
But my interpretation of it is wrong and therefore it's all kind of unless I actually am a coward
But it would still have nothing to do with your hoodie
Okay, fine. That's actually how cowards signal each other. Listen, I don't we need to communicate some way
But we're too afraid to say so. I don't want to get into your coward handkerchief game
No, no, no, no, but we're like the we're the coward boys really is what we are. Listen the point
the point is
The Mike Cernovich is not telling the truth in this case. Of course not. He's not telling the case in google
But uh, let's let's finish up this clip and then I'll explain
Uh, with us and others breaking the big news about the troop buildup
They were trying to con trump at a large reward surrey, uh, I mean just on so many fronts Cernovich is on target
That's why donald jr. Says he deserves a bull surprise. He does not these other fake journalists that are running around
Oh, but last night we posted it like 11 o'clock at 9
After hours of research over all the emails and documents and the whole manuals on how to censor with only public three pages of it
Because we're not trying to even screw these companies over. They're the ones screwing us over
So now it's time to get into what's actually going on
Why did they only post three pages? They they went through thousands of documents
And at 11 o'clock after a long work day of just combing through these high level
Google documents, right
Wait, I assume they sent them a link to a google doc. No, they were they were secretly given to mike cernovich
They weren't why would you secretly give anything to mike cernovich their public documents?
You could just give them to mike cernovich their public documents. Well, yeah
I found them. Well, yeah, but I mean you you
They've been delisted from google. They don't know how to google things anymore. They can't bing it
They haven't been delisted from google. Yeah, but you don't know that you haven't searched info wars. I have
What's the first thing that comes up info wars? That seems very obvious. There's like 300. You should have known that
What is this? Okay. I have the actual number here. Uh, they have
341,000
pages
On info wars listed
On google, right? So that's 341,000 results. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
No, no, but if you search within the site info wars dot com
Oh, so if you go into google and you put into the google, uh, search bar site colon info wars dot com
You get 341,000 results. How did you learn about that? Did you get some high level sources who taught you how to google properly?
I just know how to google
I don't know. So I don't know if you do. So now this tennis has some inside information. Do you know how google works?
That is a good question. It's not magical robots
Their algorithms work because they have these 10,000
Contractors, okay higher. Uh-huh. And their job is to do searches all day
And evaluate the results. Oh, so you search for certain terms and then there is a like 160 page
guideline
Manual that teaches you how to evaluate
The results that you get and one of the things that they are, you know, they're that seems too long
160 pages, but that's that's what he that's single spaced. That's what alex is talking about. He's like this the hundred oh
They combed through 160 pages and they found a couple pages that kind of
Look bad for them. That's basically what they what's happened
And they're treating it like some big leak that's come from a secret source. It's not it's google's manual for how they
You know try and weed out shit
Because if you're searching for something you don't want to get a site that has
Tons of pop-ups on it, right? You don't want to get a site that redirects you somewhere where you're not supposed to be
You don't want to click on a link that takes you somewhere that doesn't have any information on it
Yeah, you might fucking wind up at info wars
Ah
Exactly
This whole thing
This entire manual is essentially a training manual that goes to explain, uh, basically
Their their guidelines
They they go down to
Uh, basically does this person have expertise?
Is there is this accurate and is this
I can't remember what the third so so their base their whole job
Is to make sure that you and I never actually go to the second page of google
Yeah, at the end at the end of a search if you go to the second page of google
Their algorithm probably didn't work or you've uh not
Made the question specific. Yeah. Yeah, but whatever you're looking for you didn't phrase, right?
Their job is to make you lazy, right and it's to um, or at least facilitate your already
Laziness or and as time goes on things become less relevant
Like one of the examples and pages die and they're you know that whole sure and one of the examples
I saw here was that like which reminds me I really got to stop paying for the url on my angel fire page
Yeah, you probably should I gotta I gotta let that one go your zenga
Uh, so one of the examples I found here of something that was considered like low quality
By their standards was a tmz article about britney spears filing for divorce
And the reason is because the person searched for britney spears
Specifically and that page popped up. Oh
And she doesn't want to know about
No, it's because that was that's years and years old or he it can be either gender
Who's searching for britney spears or it does sexist of you that is yes
But I apologize you understand this search result isn't relevant nowadays to someone just searching for britney spears
So it's considered low and ideally it'll go down the algorithm
So it won't pop up as immediately when you search for just britney spears, right? That's not trying to delist tmz
As it were it's not trying to censor them at all
It's just considering what are you searching for you want to make sure that you get to that
Yes, it's trying to it's trying to suss out your your goals. Yes. Now it gets a little bit complicated
What
10,000 people all working on the same thing might get a little complicated with 160 page guideline what which they're trying to follow
Yes, okay, so I assumed it would be simple
The like like the one page manual is just like guys
You know what you're looking for just fucking
There was a screenshot that was like that's posted on sernovich's website and info wars reposted that was
Using info wars as an example of something that would get a low score
Okay, this was not from google's
own
Like main document
It was from one of the businesses that some of these 10,000 people work for
Because they subcontract these things out
So this person was using info wars as an example of that this would be low on the scale, right?
Like a power point presentation to your to your training staff like essentially here's how we would
Yes, and the reasons that are given
For that is that the reputation of info wars has been that they are overall
Controversial and often their claims are debunked
Just fair. Yeah, we've illustrated this over and over again
Sure, but it here's here's a quote from this this write-up about the situation
Despite this the example did not suggest that the page info wars be given the lowest possible score
In fact it explained why this should not happen
It even defended the reason why that particular page would be useful to some google searchers
And this is from the the document
Yes
Simply presenting an unorthodox perspective on the news doesn't exactly qualify
Even if it may be harmful in the larger more elliptical sense of the term
You could say that we're being generous with the upper range here
But the site may be considered useful to some users looking for an alternative source of information and it redeems it in some way
Okay, so what what that translates to is
Just because it's controversial and probably not
Useful and it's coming from a thoroughly debunked generally debunked site isn't enough
To delist it or to drop it as low as possible
Yes, what it what you should do is if you're searching if you're searching for just like
What happened today info wars should not be on the top of the list, right?
It should be like cnn and and what and the new york times and uh
Or if a site like like a site that has those are the only two news agencies that I could reference off the top of my head
Which is not good because I don't read either of them if a site has like unnavigatable pop-ups and shit
That's what should be at the lowest. Yes, and then you have
Shades of the rest of it
Now 50 shades of lie
Alex claims that these people were told these 10,000 people were told
To censor and delist info wars and that is just absolutely not true. They're just
You know, they were used as an example of something that was low quality, right, which is fair now
Do we have the recordings of those conversations though? So they put up the training?
Uh montage there. Mm-hmm. All right, but say they turn the recording off
I assume all training sessions are recorded like the nicks and white house tapes. Mm-hmm. They turn it off and then the trainer goes
Listen, this is off the record
D list
D list info wars because those fucks is bullshit. No, I don't think that happened. Yeah, but uh the thing
So here's where it gets even more complicated
Okay
The example that they used in this sort of guideline that was using info wars as an example of
A low quality information source. Mm-hmm. They used a screenshot of an info wars article about a sod
uh
reporting that
The gas attack was fake
Okay, so now alex gets really pissed about this later because he's like they're saying we don't have legitimate sources
Ron paul ron paul was on rt saying it
Putin said it
A sod said it. Yeah
This credible sources this with no skin in the game whatsoever
This former uk ambassador who has a history of supporting a sod throughout really murky times that we discussed on a past episode
Yeah, these are his sources and he doesn't
I think he knows but he's not willing to engage with the idea that like these are bad sources
In terms of this these are bad sources
Like or Putin is they're the only sources who would know
Because they're the ones
who
Well, look would have planned it the story is that a sod gassed his own people
Yeah, so alex's story is no he didn't and now you're gonna get a sod's take on it
Like I know every time someone's accused of murder. They don't say they did it not every time pretty much
A lot of the time. Well, yeah, okay fine. Some terrorist organizations take responsibility for their actions
I mean, you got serial killers. You got jeffrey dommer. He ate people, but did he plead guilty immediately?
Nobody took a shit and everybody knew
right
so
I was the dumbest thing I've ever said. So now here's my here's my fun
Here's my fun theory about a sod like how great would it be if he didn't do it
But he knows nobody would ever believe him like what a bummer for him if he's fine
Like the one time he's not the most evil son of a bitch murdering cocksucker
All of the sudden he's like
Fuck the boy who cried. I didn't I didn't do it this time. Why won't anyone believe me?
And then he gasses people just uh just to get over it, you know, I assume that's how he deals with his stress
I wouldn't be surprised so that was their example and again even within that example
It wasn't saying delist or censor them at all. It was just use just lower them on the
Which is I mean, it's unfortunate
You shouldn't use alex jones as an example of something that would get a low rating because you know
He's exactly the type of person who's going to turn that into a huge fucking deal use another example
Yeah, that's what I would advise looking back. I was a misstep. That's what I would have advised these vendors to do
Could have used any number of examples like the spectator stay away from town halls
Drudge alex jones
And I don't know sernovich stay away from those guys and you're fine. They're the ones who are going to get really mad
At least in regards to your training manual
So here's where it gets the extra murky
What alex jones is responding to on this episode that we're listening to
Is that google put out a statement
explaining that
they didn't
Make that manual the second manual that has info wars used as an example see and they should have just ignored it
They should have just ignored it. It would have gone away. Absolutely. You didn't need to say anything
But they addressed it and they're like hey look it
They didn't they weren't telling anybody to censor anything, but
They did use them as an example and I understand how this could come off
So we've asked that to be removed and we're going to take care of it. So that's what google has it
No, I mean you're making a scrunchy face, but I get where they're coming from too. It's like all right
Let's just fucking squash this and they did but alex, of course
Yeah, you just don't engage with him
He says he says the guy who's the co-host of an alex
No, I mean in a in that kind of like offhand throwaway way because just the fact that they're responding to like look
We're at best if he's coming after us. He's punching down at least for now, right and probably forever
But at least for now
Google though google gets to be a giant corporation that you can really rail against because there's no way
info wars subscribers and listeners
Really think that google isn't part of the globalist. That's true
Like they have to think that google is so the very fact that google is responding to them means like oh, they know
We're powerful
They know we have something on them. They know they're caught this time alex is going to get to that
But you you're starting to be able to predict his behaviors, but oh
This could be the end of the podcast
There's two things one. I think that google probably doesn't understand his listeners as well as we do
Secondarily, I think no, I don't even think his listeners understand his listeners as well as we do it
Maybe not, but then the second thing is I think that they're doing exactly what I would do in their position
Which is be like, hey, you know what? We didn't make that fair enough fair enough
Let's try and clean up our mess a little bit. You know, these were these subcontractors who did this
Uh, you know, sorry, whatever. I don't think they even apologize, but they were like, why would you there's nothing to apologize for?
Absolutely not and they're not being delisted. They're not being censored. It's all it's all
Another susan rice story that like sernovich is broken. It's all
Non-facts presented as conspiracy against them to highlight victim status
Which again is what he's going to do with the divorce stuff once he's it not under a gag order
He is the victim which is the which is the only
Real bullet that the conservative movement has is that they're always the ones under attack
That's their that's their all that's always their argument when it always comes back to it
Which is why they can't actually do anything like uh, or like now that they're in power
They can't actually govern in any kind of reasonable way because
What what do you do?
Like you're you're always the victim now. You're the one who's
Victimizing other people so you can't play that card and whenever everybody starts fucking up now the g.o.p
Is complaining that they're the victim
Against the g.o.p. Like they just don't have any other play well
They have to find the more conserved like the freedom caucus has to become the ones who are being victimized
Yeah, they're the ones being victimized by the mainstream republicans or bannons being victimized by pre-vis
Always always sooner or later
There's going to be the infighting whenever everybody has to claim to be the victim my man
It's already happening which boggles my mind considering the fact that their other argument is that everybody else is playing the victim
Yeah, now we're going to move on. Uh, I think that we've fairly decently addressed this google thing
I'll post links bullshit. I'll post links to stuff on the uh on knowledge fight dot com
You can find uh, some resources on that that explain
Really what's going on is bullshit
But now we're going to get into the part where alex goes on from this main point
He's going to come back to it a bunch and just remember whenever he does
It's worth shit, but this clip and the next couple clips are where he says some stuff that he shouldn't have said on the air
And then the news is like oh alex is full of crap. He says google
Is censoring him for linking the news articles about syria being a false flag with a chemical attack and that it was all admitted
today
But the media attack on us only intensifies from there. I mean it is just getting so crazy
So understand this info wars has been chosen
as the beta tests
To be incrementally basically shut down
And that's why they take things. I've set out a context. That's why they take satire engaged you out of context
Bullshit clearly parodies
No, and then they put them out and then I come out and say that's satire a parody. I'm acting there
And they go oh everything you do is an act
Again targeting low information readers on the internet and watchers
So this is wait. He should not have said that no
Because he just then admitted that it's not all an act
Yeah, that's why he shouldn't be saying this on the air. He shouldn't be saying this on the air at all. No
Not during this trial. No, especially when he's under a gag order. Yeah
He actually did get he did get in trouble in court
On tuesday because he made a video like this. I don't know if it's this video specifically
But he's not supposed to be talking about any of this stuff. No
Technically he's not addressing it directly
But he is basically addressing the fact that he said he was an act
Yes, or at least his lawyer said that he was an act and then he's claiming that
They are saying that he's an act. Uh-huh
And
His distinction is that sometimes he's an act. Well, he's going to fully flesh this out
And he's not but he's going to attempt to fully flesh this out
And his argument that he's going to lay out is that there are times
When he plays characters like one time he was in clown makeup and one time that's true
One time he had a lizard mask on and did a did a character and he thinks this is one of the more powerful people in
In uh alternative media. Yep, the guy who wears a lizard mask
Sometimes this is one of the more powerful people in alternative media. So he's great. He makes the argument
We live in a beautiful world those times. He's doing parody
But all the other times he's real
So now this is murky because he's tried to use the performance art
Claim in the past when we've dealt with it the pizza gate thing or with him screaming at shiff
Yes, you know those sorts of things which is not what he's talking about now
No, he specifically in this episode thinks that everyone who thinks he's playing a role and doing an act
He thinks that they're just talking about the times that he puts on a lizard mask
Or does a british accent or stuff like that. He is so confused about what people are actually saying about him
It's
insane
I I could have called almost all of these clips alex is a lunatic because
You could call all of our clips alex is a lunatic. So he goes on to say we could call our podcast alex is a lunatic
In this next clip, I mean we'd have to call it alex jones is a lunatic. Otherwise people would never find us
And we get sued by everyone named alex. Yeah, they would just think we were talking about a random alex
Uh, so this next clip alex goes on to say some more stuff about how he is not an actor
And again, this could have really hurt him in court. That's his defense in court. It's really gonna work against him
I really think that some of this might get played in court because it's overt. That's pretty hilarious. Yeah
He's a man who can't help but self-destruct 95 of the time
I'm not doing satire. All right. Well, that's not good when I do satire
I tell you when I wear a zore mask and act like I'm a reptoid or whatever
I don't believe reptoids are on the planet
But the media picks that up and says look jones wore a liver a lizard mask
And believes that the zortanians or whatever took over and then I've got to go no
I was acting as a skit as a joke everybody else does jokes
presidents do jokes
I was being an actor there that was satire. I believe in what I'm saying and doing
I believe in the message of liberty
I'm one of the purest people on record out there defending the republic and not selling out and being attacked everywhere
And there are literally in the last two days over a thousand articles. I have google alerts
So I can't look at it a little bit tells me over 1200 articles with the words alex jones admits he's fake
Or alex jones says he's just an actor and doesn't believe it. I didn't ever said any of that. Yeah, you did
No, he didn't his lawyer did yeah, and it is an important distinction
I don't know of any lawyers who are like
Here's what I want my client to do
publicly
Deny what I said
I don't I don't know a lot of lawyers admittedly
But I'm fairly certain if you're a lawyer for like, I don't know. Let's say you're defending a murderer
You don't want to be like your honor
We enter a plea of not guilty. I did it and then have your
Your client go on tv being like I didn't kill like five percent of those people
95 percent of the time i'm killing
It's just this one time I did you know what the only way I can sort of wrap my brain around it is like the strategy
The like sort of legal strategy is muddy the waters
Like make it really so undistangleable
Like make it just a big knot like your headphones are all all wrapped up
You're never gonna get those fucking things untangled like this like this cord right here. Yeah, that's done for yeah
There's no way so yeah, I think that I mean that's possible. That's bad
Your cord is getting so tangled you're getting closer and closer to the desk. I am it's uh, it's very uncomfortable
I'm gonna get a new cord
But anyway, this clip goes on again. This is very ill advised on here's the weird here's the
Here's the fun thing that I always love so much
Is conservatives don't understand that they cannot be funny. They're not funny. They're never funny
So his idea of like
Everybody else does jokes
I know
I know alex. Mm-hmm, but but you're like
Like what's what's this fuck? Mike huckabee is trying to be funny on twitter and you're like jesus, dude
Just wow. Yeah cut it out. Yeah
Stick to the base. You know, you know, what's really funny white people are the best. Oh, no, that's not really a joke
Is it mike huckabee? It's tough. That is you're terrible. Yeah, alex alex
You're right. He doesn't understand this is the problem. He's not funny
He's not really doing satire, but he's totally right about people taking him out of context now admittedly
uh
If he was at like an open mic
And went on stage wearing a lizard mask and just saying alex jones things and I didn't know it was him
That would be the funniest fucking thing. I've ever heard my entire life if he was doing like that. My mom kicked me off her knee
There's four ways to learn so good in a lizard mask and open mic. I'm in yeah
He's hilarious so long as he isn't trying to tell a joke to be fair
We've seen him do stand up in like our third episode. Yeah, but he wasn't wearing a lizard mask
That's a good point. He wasn't wearing a lizard mask. Anyway, I never said a word of that ladies and gentlemen
What the media does is they take clips of me when I rarely do satire now
They edited it all together and they put it on the news
Like steven cobert did a few months ago and I guess I gotta finally probably so
Google's only back in aux already called law firms. They know it. Um
Because they know i'll get discovery. That's not they googled it. I said i'm not anti-gay. I've never been
I don't care what you do in your own bedroom. I'm a fricking libertarian
I'm
And they they've got a clip with cobert was on a little tv a little youtube clips
You can't tell it's cut
And it's me going said to me saying I'm not anti-gay goes. I'm anti-gay. We'll probably take that clip and play it
And people say I've had employees
thrown out of their rent house after that air
A lady shows goes i'm a lesbian. I'm gay get the hell out of here
You're not on the lease like your roommate the guy's like even a liberal but he cares about freedom that works in our office
I call him a classical liberal
You know all the classic things like freedom and openness and you know anti-drug war
It's just so crazy as a real classical liberal
So I consider myself alex is a classical liberal a classical liberal, right?
Which apparently is the exact same thing as a libertarian because he just said he was that also by the by the definition of
Lizard libertarian, uh, he thinks that they're into freedom openness and anti-drug war
That's all the criteria that he gave there. That's a classical liberal that I I you know
I I don't want to say that i'm a baroque liberal then but
That kind of I've met some where there were there movements in uh in classical liberalism
Uh, I've met some liberals that I would not say are very open
Yeah, doesn't seem like a real that doesn't seem like one of the virtues of liberalism
Hey, you're reserved get out of it
I also like the people who got kicked out of the their rent houses, which
I don't know if I've ever called it that before like victorian london speed. Yeah, exactly
Let's call it an apartment. Maybe uh
Yeah
And even in his explanation, it's like, oh, I hate if I was uh, you're not on the lease
Like your roommate is
Which means you shouldn't be there that might be more what's going on
Oh, really it might be the whole the whole you should be on the like it's fascinating
You can't sublet your apartment. It's against the law. It's fascinating how I mean if you don't get your landlord's permission
Yeah, right, right, right. It's fascinating though. How oftentimes alex will accidentally tell the truth in the middle of a bullshit
Sense like that. I mean and that's so easy to let slip by it's like you got to get out of here. I hate alex jones
You're not on the lease
Well, it's uh, it's the 28 in the womb. Well, it's the same thing with this google story
You know, it's google is trying to delist us
They're not the the story that you posted even the business insider story doesn't even say that
And how would they know that you've already called a lawyer? He hasn't of course. He's too busy with his other lawyers
Well, I mean in that case maybe he did call the lawyer
Because he's already been calling his lawyer a lot talk to his divorce lawyer about suing the biggest company in the world
Uh, they're not quite the biggest. I believe in apple is the biggest. They're up there
Or the most profitable or something like that. My man. They're up there. Anyway, uh, alex is not just full of anecdotal stories about
People getting kicked out of their homes. He's not just a guy who's gonna falsely claim he's a classical liberal
He's also gonna tell you a
Untrue story about someone talking to him on the street to sit here and watch all these a-holes lie about me constantly
And then I had a guy on the street today
Today walk up to me and say I used to really like you. I listen all the time and I I saw you on the news
You didn't see me. You read some quote
Saying it's all fake. You're an actor. You don't mean any of this. I never said any of that
I've said hundreds of times on my own shows people ask me. It's one of the most common ask questions. Why aren't you dead?
That's the most common
That's god dad. Hell. I don't know and the other question is
Is it for real?
When I promote freedom or sound money or sovereignty or family or free open market free market systems
Or not having wars where we start them
Or the right to self-defense. Of course, I believe it. None of my kids are vaccinated. Yikes. Oh, you should not be
Losing already lost the custody battle done done
Why are we even bothering with ipa wars? None of his kids are vaccinated. Take his fucking kids away now and vaccinate him
Maybe give him back to him afterwards, but fucking get get your shots
I can't I can't stress how many times i've said this on the podcast get your kids are fucking shots you idiot
It's a public health issue. It's not for you
Science is still out
Vaccines are tainted. Oh man. Oh now. I don't say this lightly
One of his kids should get polio
I don't say this lightly that guy on the street didn't talk to him that guy on the street doesn't exist
No, or I used to like you and then yesterday
I saw a report that you're fake and that that ruined all the time that I listen don't fuck off that didn't happen
these
Did he hallucinate that it's possible because he sounds very
He sounds very sincere in that story like it doesn't sound like he's lying
in the same way that it usually does whenever he lies where he he puts in too many details like
This guy in a paisley shirt. Well, that's yeah, I mean he does all he he does often give too many details
But you see this with like all of his narratives too. He just flippantly lies and sounds like he believes all the stuff
He's saying that's true. He is really good at lying. So anyway, he gets into here into this next clip
There's some more lies. This clip is super bizarre
This i'm excited this clip starts with him saying stuff
Uh, that's obliquely referring to the court case that he shouldn't be saying he shouldn't be saying any of this stuff
Then he speculates as to why people are attacking info wars and he's lying. It's all bullshit
Then he transitions into a lie
about callers calling into his show
uh, and then
He tries to explain satire
Oh, no, that's a deep water. That's like the straw man explanation. He does not understand satire the
Way I would sum it up is satire is fucking hard, man
It's real hard and it should be left to pros. But anyway, give it a shot alex
And I've dealt in my own personal life with the system coming after me as you can see everywhere
But i'm gonna talk about my family. I'm gonna take the high road and all this
But I've done everything I've said I do I've stood for what I stand for
I'm not left or right. I choose issues on whether they
Are the right thing to do when I research them
So people will even take the fact that I'm responding to this is some weakness
Because that's the new media thing. They're like alex is bonafide. He's real people believe him. It's spreading
He promotes all these other freedom lovers
So that who is saying that well, that's what he's saying that that's why people attack him because he's on the vanguard of the new freedom
Of the new freedom, but before that he was saying that like my you know, all this stuff. I'm under attack about my family
I'm gonna take the high road on it. You shouldn't have said shit. You should have said nothing
Even just saying that is gonna be a problem alex jones
You should have said nothing. Yeah, that's that should be his biography. Yeah. Yeah. That's the name of our biography
Isn't that isn't that isn't that mic for bigliest joke what I should have said was nothing was nothing
What I did say
Was all the shit my lawyer told me not to yeah
There they can track that most of the modern
Next wave of patriotic libertarians that defeat the globalist have been magnified by my show and kind of launch
Kind of like drudge helped us launch some we would have launched on our own our listeners helped us as well
And you know folks, but being drudge was a big magnifying out as listeners still is
Well info wars has been a big magnifier
As well for other people and they see that they know
We're like the incubation system for other people that want to challenge norms and create new media
Now if we take that as an argument we can look at the people who have come out of info wars and gained
national prominence and I can count on
zero hands
The number of people who have come out of info wars and become
relevant um
Zero hands. I'm pretty sure I read a new york times profile of batman and oh no no no dude
There was that whole documentary about rainbow snatch. No that was on info wars. No, that's right. Yeah. Yeah, fuck um
Let's see
All the people that he has on who he could make an argument are
Like people who give him more credibility than people like an anthony kumia hosting once uh two weeks
Once every two weeks or whatever people like gavin mcginnis coming on even like sernovich
Yeah, like these are guys who have built in fan groups already. It doesn't mean anything rob dues is zero
Owen treuers doing nothing paul joseph watson has a big fan base, but he the info wars is a
Anchor around his leg for all intents and purposes
He just makes short attention span propaganda videos that he puts out on his own channel, which are horrendous. Yeah, they're terrible
He's bad at it. He he is someone who is actually fairly successful in the homegrown stable or whatever
But he lives in london. He doesn't he's
He's as separate from alex as he can be while still being involved
David knight sucks. David knight super sucks. Leanne macadoo is great, but she doesn't have it
You fucking are in love with leon macadoo. She's very beautiful. You are in love with leon macadoo. Millie weaver sucks
That's what this podcast is really about. I kind of just want yeah
Somehow to get leon macadoo's attention and then bring her over here and
Replace me with leon macadoo. I know it. That would be so great
Um, who else we got millie weaver sucks
Uh, bub bub bub bub
I actually beckford's barely ever around these days never heard that name before
The people who are not really used to be around aren't around anymore jacari jackson certainly isn't a notable household name
Rambo joe bigs. He's not around don't like you saying any of those words. Uh, um
Uh mark dice not super famous not a really big name. Nope. Um, unless he's secretly
Uh, andrew dice clay wearing a mask. I would be regressed age makeup to an nth degree
Hey, if uh, if benjamin button can do it
John bound isn't famous. None of these people are notable. Do you just have a team of losers?
It's just no, it's not a nice way to say that but it's fair
Well, yeah, if any of them were doing their own thing, they might actually be successful
They might have it in them to do something
No, it's possible. I don't know it is possible. I have no idea. I've never in an infinite universe
Yes in one section of the multiverse
Paul joseph watson is the greatest broadcaster of his era. I sincerely think he probably has way more talent than
He's expressing through his propaganda videos. You think so? Yeah, probably I think he has a charisma probably doesn't
That's fair be that as it may. I'm talking about all the other ding dongs. Yeah
Like they don't even have a chance to shine. They're not even doing their own unique thing
They're just alex's seconds. Uh-huh. They even they even say the exact same things that he does
They just they just they're puppets
The strangest thing about his argument is that he is essentially a cult leader
And anyone threatening his consolidation of power would be immediately torn down
That's why joe big has had to get fired. Yeah, exactly
Or at least sent to the side for a little bit
Because they let him back into the fold. They put him in time out
Yeah, he was shamed for a little while and then he's brought back in
Anyway, you're about to get to the part where he lies about his callers
It doesn't mean I'm perfect doesn't mean I don't make mistakes, but I'm not trying to
Truth is is my north star. It's my pole star. It's what I want. It's where I'm going
Nope, and so all the time I get the call
Any regular listener who's listening for even a week or so when I take calls
Are you for real?
I've listened every day for the last four months. Has anybody said not one not what no one has ever asked in that
Now he does screen his calls
sure
So it's entirely possible that his screener has heard that
Which I would assume is rob do but he said that anyone who listens
In his very boring voice rob do goes
Uh
He's for real and then relays that information on to alec
But he's saying that anyone who listens would know that
You know this call happens all the time. I listen. It doesn't. Oh, yeah. Well, then definitely not. Yeah
Absolutely 95% of the time I'm being totally serious when I do satire. I tell you I don't do satire lesson work
Is if I dress up like the joker we lost probably
50,000 youtube followers when I did that in a day. I mean they thought we thought you were a good guy
You've got joker mask on you're saying evil stuff
I was being an actor there illustrating an evil clown saying take your vaccines kids and then showing articles
Where vaccines were killing kids to try to get to people that don't to it into politics
But are into the whole evil clown craze. I'm planning a big it thing. I'm just doing it. You know what?
I'm gonna say this is acting to illustrate what I really believe
Vaccines are dangerous because they have liability protection read the inserts and then I'm gonna hijack the whole it thing
Stephen King
And go take them kids. Oh, it's good
People don't do you really mean take them?
No, I don't mean take them and no, I'm not really a clown
but I am
Good at expressing when I believe so I put white face on and put my hair back
I get the clown that's gonna scare the hell out of people. I'll be scared of the guy in the movie. You know
So you're so wait. He just said that he's acting to express what he really believes. Yeah
Yeah
Well, no, I mean what he's saying is that he plays this character as the opposite of what he believes in order to make the point
To express what he really believes right in the case of so in his argument that he is a performance artist
He just said that he
5% of the time
Is acting and he is only acting to express what he actually believes
Which is the opposite point of what he's actually making. He's really bad at this so bad
Now, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. It's just to be crystal clear. He's specifically talking about that time. He dressed up like the joker
He's not abstractly talking about
You know
Other times might have been performance art when he was screaming at some guy or something like that. Yeah, he's talking specifically about times
He's worn costumes
That's important
And also wearing costumes is not satire. No, that's not how satire works
But also it's not a good argument against vaccines to say they have liability protection
It's a very bad argument because almost everything does
Uh, yeah
Check the inserts. They got liability protect. Well, of course
Yeah, well the reason that your your aspirin has a fucking little
Cover on it is because of the aspirin murderer from way back when and maybe that was not
Maybe that was just a guy. Yeah, or it could have been the actual corporation. Anyways
Liability protection. Yeah, of course
Almost everything is used at your own risk
We were walking away from this
We don't want liability. How come we haven't had a disclaimer at the beginning of all of our podcast. I don't give a shit
We aren't in LLC. What are we doing?
I'll stand by my words. Okay. All right. Anyway, go ahead. You had a question. Um, no, I
I have time for one question. I do
There's so many that come in that clip
I didn't know he dressed up as a joker. He did
It lost a lot of followers. How did he lose 50 000 followers because he dressed up as a joker
Well, as he said it, we lost a lot of followers. We were like, we thought you were a good guy
Yeah, I don't know. Wait
Does he does he believe
That his listeners
Are so dumb
That were they to see him dress up as the joker? They would believe
He is the joker. We're gonna get into a clip a little bit later down the road where he wrestles with this a little bit further
Oh, god, but I don't think he
I think he's disappointed by how dumb his listeners are but he doesn't he knows that if he calls them dumb
Game over. Yeah, so he has to try and
Blame the media and stuff like that. It's like they've poisoned everyone's minds and act like he's talking about other people
But yeah when he's really talking about the dumb dumb if his listeners saw him dressed up like the joker and they were like
Wow, you actually believe that that means your listeners are dumb. Also
No one who is making fun of that clip
Years ago when he did that no one was like
Look at this guy. He likes to dress up like the joker. We don't get this as parody
We don't get this as satire everyone was like look at this crazy asshole. Yeah
He's a crazy asshole dressed up like a joker the first time anybody any right thing first saw it
He really dressed up like the joker. Yeah, these fine pictures of it. He really did that
Yeah, he put on like the the makeup and everything. Yeah, who told him that was a good idea. I bet there's just people who can't tell him
It's not
That actually sounds far more. I bet he doesn't listen to anybody. That's why he's doing this
That's why he's indemnifying himself or whatever, you know, like he's going to get fucked. Yeah, he's not good at this
Yeah, so this next clip coming up is uh him
Really further nailing down that he's not an actor
And uh, he also explains that he doesn't want to be famous
Which that is the least true thing anyone that that's the least true thing
He's said truth is his north star. Yeah, no, he wants to be famous
So bad. He wants to rub elbows with other famous people so badly totally but also
Really shouldn't be making a crystal clear case that you're not an actor at this point
I love how then they like i'm an actor like i want to be an actor
I've been in major movies. They ask me to be in major movies. I've been offered more than 50 reality tv shows
I've been offered by some of the biggest reality tv stars in the world to do shows with them
But coming here and doing live real feeds with you is so much more empowering. I don't want that
I don't want to be a celebrity
I want to be a leader for freedom for the future
But it is all about me now because if they can destroy in everybody's eyes
Someone they know who they admittedly surveil who's under criminal investigation as a russian agent because I stand for america
And have no russian connections if they can do that they can take down anybody
Well, you just got really shocked. What's up? He just said he was under criminal investigation for
For ties to russia. He's not
That's what he thinks is happening
They're investigating the bots that promote his content
Okay, and stuff like that. All right, the fbi has announced. There was that mclatchki article
Yeah, uh, mclatchi, excuse me and they they were discussing that these russian bots seemed to time
Uh, their promotion of info wars bright bar content and stuff like that to make a very high impact
Whenever trump was going down in the polls when something bad was happening bad press for trump
It seemed like all of these anti hillary pro trump articles from info wars
Were being pushed really hard by these
identified bots
That were being used by russia. Wow that is they're good at strategy
Well, it turns out a lot of this stuff is really traceable, but they're using they're not bad
They're not good at hiding their tracks. Right. That is a good strategy though. Well, but it's just like with that
Syria hoax hashtag. It's really easy to track back who used it first because everything's time stamped because it's the internet
Yeah, and in the same way you can google it in the same way you can pretty easily
Identify these these fake accounts. It's pretty simple. And so alex believes
That because the fbi is investigating info wars connection to these bots
That they are investigating him being a russian agent and they're not
This is more of him making himself into a bigger victim and a bigger martyr
Because it reinforces that other thing he said, but if they can do that to me they can do it to anybody
Yeah, which is the last act of a coward when you're like if you don't protect me
They're coming for you next when I deserve to become after
Like I am a liar and a propagandist and my own 20 year game has caught up to me now at this point
Yeah, and I have created an army of idiots who don't understand satire apparently
We're buying my weirdo pills and bone sauce. Yeah, and now I and definitely not as vaccines
No, certainly not info wars line of vaccines. Oh, they would be so good at what would they vaccinate clean vaccines
No no viral content
whatsoever
You know what they would be that they would be they would vaccinate you against fake diseases
There would be some sort of like space disease that they would vaccinate you against that's
I I I might buy a space or dr. Group would come in with some like weird fake disease
Like you gotta you gotta get this. I mean, it's great. I've been studying for 15 years
Yeah, we need bob duke on this one. Anyway, this is what cowards do
That's you have this built up group around you and it's like fuck
They're gonna turn on me eventually unless I make this a super emergency and it is gonna be a super emergency because
I mean he's
Saying should he should not say well and once again once again. It's a it's a cult leader move too
It's always going to be you know
They're coming up to me your leader
Yeah, because they're going to be coming after you the moment. I'm gone. I'm the only one protecting you
It's an implied threat to yeah. Yeah, it's it's like jim jones
Uh being like we all have to kill ourselves or else they're gonna get me. Yeah, absolutely
Yeah, and it's not as it's not as severe as that certainly jim jones jim jones related
To alex jones exactly holy shit
Has alex jones ever been in san francisco?
Probably not the people's church. I would almost guarantee he's never been to san francisco. This next clip is weird
This clip is alex not really understanding what
Doing an act is he doesn't really understand it and then he gets a little bit sentimental
And he gets lost in thought telling a story from his youth that is not true
Sometimes I love alex jones. So I'll shoot a later video on this
On the particular of am I an actor? That's ridiculous. The whole world's a stage. Each of us players upon it. William Shakespeare
It's not an actor
I got my driver's license when I was 15 in a hardship
He's had a job as a small animal vet
And I'd pull up at the sonic and act tough in front of girls and say hey, let's go see a movie
Yeah, I stuck my chest out. I
Tried to act slicker than I probably was was it acting?
No, I really wanted to date that girl. I really wanted to take her to the movies. I really wanted to kiss her
Put my hand on her thigh
I really wanted to date all the cheerleaders and I did
And the bad girls as well
Punk rock girls, you name it long as they had a spring on their step
I wonder was it an act that I kind of stuck my chest out and walked over like I was tough
Yes, it was an act
But my heart was a hundred percent behind it an act
Could be any definition you want to be
Everything we've done is about restoring the republic
Everything we've done is about empowering the people everything we've done is about being genuine
Globalism is being exposed world governments being exposed the private fellow reserves being exposed their whole system
Is being exposed right now and we're having victory after victory after victory and you
are the leaders
You've had the huge effect the world's changing because of you no matter what color your skin is your blood's red
Like I say a thousand times you have to say that a thousand times a week. Yeah, also I would otherwise people might catch on
Yeah, I would pause it also
that
when you're in the middle of an ugly divorce
And one of your arguments in court is that you're playing a character
And then against the wishes of your lawyer clearly you get on air and you shoot a video
Where you're arguing that you are not an actor
It might not be best
To talk about was I acting when I fucked every girl in my school? He said he fucked every girl
Cheerleaders fuck them punk rock girls. I don't even give a shit. I'll fuck anybody. Yeah, he's like I got the cheerleaders
Got them all bad girls too. We're what what the fuck is he talking about?
That's my favorite alex right there. I that's a great alex alex jones
I got my license at 15 and that's when I started fucking everyone
There's there's your clip media matters right there alex jones fucks alex jones the 15 year old sport fucker
Going out there to the sonic with his chest out trying to
Finger a lady at a drive-in. Yeah, I wanted to put my hand on her thigh. What is that gross?
It is really gross. That's a really gross way of putting it. Yeah, it's it's very much so
Yeah, but uh, yeah, again, that's that's unwise also. I'd be more comfortable with
I wanted a finger blast a punk rock girl. At least that would be pretty great
also
Much like him not understanding that what's at issue is not whether or not he was literally the joker
Uh, we're also not concerned with you faking confidence in order to connect with other humans. That's not really what's at issue
No, what's at issue is whether or not you're a rage-filled angry man
Who can't be around his children? I do love I do love how he's like he he correctly cites
William chase me. I'm glad I'm glad he I'm glad he did that
Otherwise, otherwise, I might think he just came up with that off the top of his dome. Yeah, maybe maybe one of the most
Famous phrases in the history of the world
I might have thought that alex jones thought that one up
Well, his audience may be as dumb as he thinks they are that's possible
I don't think a lot of them are into the bard
I was I also like how he said that an act can be anything you want it to be which is like
Hey, any word can be any meaning you want it to have doesn't matter words don't mean anything. This is what we keep coming back to
Nothing means anything. Yeah, I I'm just a silly idiot for thinking that the actual definition of a word
Is how you're supposed to use that word within the context of the sentence and that word
Has a fucking meaning jordan. I've been an info warrior all along. This has been an act. Okay
I look and and i'm doing this to get chicks
I thought it was weird when you dressed up like the joker because this is not a video podcast for our first 10 episodes
That was weird. I shouldn't have done that. I just let that go. I just let that go
I mean, I thought you were a good guy, but maybe you're not
Take your vaccines, but and you know me
You're down with OPP dress up like a joker. I don't give a shit. Yeah, whatever you're doing here on bedroom, which we're in
That's true. That's true. Um, so this next uh clip
Here is the one thing from the the divorce uh thing that I did read that I found very interesting
Okay, they said he broadcasts from his room. No from his house. No, I've seen people misrepresenting that too
He has a giant studio that he broadcasts from but sometimes he does special reports from the home
So like this was recorded in like a study in his house
And sometimes he's in the living room and you know, it's he'll shoot like iphone video
Yeah, stuff at home. So no, no his regular show is broadcast out of a warehouse. Right. He has a giant fucking studio
Really? Yeah. Yeah. So that the people people who are like, hey
You get mad at people living in their parents basement. You shoot your fucking show out of your home
First of all, it's a flimsy argument second. It's not true. Yeah, okay. No, no
So sometimes he will videotape himself in his home like just about everybody on youtube. Yeah, but not his show show
The show broadcasts every day
I was I was I was really concerned about that because every time I've seen a picture of a studio
I'm like
Fuck he's got a room in his house for that. He has a smaller studio
He broadcasts out of like on sundays and it's possible that that one would be in a basement or something like that
It looks small enough that it could be but I I don't think so. I think it's just a secondary studio in his warehouse
But yeah, no, anyway, the next couple clips are just him
Again, not fucking understanding what people are actually talking about with him being a character. Is he insane? Yes. Okay
so
When they then say i'm fake
Because the national news plays me as the joker or me
You know, this is like seven eight years ago now. I don't do this anymore
You notice most of the videos on natural tv making fun of me, you know where i'm going. Oh my god. I'm gender. Oh, i'm gay. Oh
I might have been bashing gay people there
I just mean like people to go. Oh, i'm gay. Let you know let me get in your face and grandstand
Just like some fake christian. Let me grandstand and say you're going to hell
I don't care if you're gay or a christian or whatever. It's like all these grandstanding people
I would argue that his whole show is largely grand standing
About people being dumb and not realizing there are globalists that walk among us and want to kill us
Also, have we seen have you seen anything in the mainstream news that references him dressing up like the joker?
Not a one thing. I haven't seen anything. No, so why would he mischaracterize so so here's what he's doing
He is I think you I think you just got it. He's instead of instead of engaging with what it is
They are saying about him. He is then pulling back on this one instance that is so unusual and so out of
Any context whatsoever that he's creating that false equivalency there in order to make it seem like what they're saying
Which is reasonable is akin to him dressing up like the joker. Would you call that a straw man reasonable?
Would you call that a straw man? I would call that a straw man. Yeah, he basically is using himself as a straw man
Argument kind of it's so maybe he's brilliant. What is happening?
No, because if he was actually doing that or like if he was aware of that and more in control
He could make the argument better the fact that it's so confusing means that he doesn't understand
Of course, I legitimately don't think I think from listening to this and especially I know where it's going
Like I legitimately think that he he genuinely believes that's what they are talking about that sort of thing is what people are like
Oh, you're an act. No, I'm an act when I do this
it's
This is really ill advised so so you should get a better lawyer
It's it's gonna it even gets worse either that or she he should get a lawyer
That's willing to put him in a Hannibal Lecter mask
It gets worse. There is one clip that I'm gonna play then if he went on a show he would call that an act
There's no win. There's a clip. I'm gonna play towards the end of this just literally titled probably going to be used in court
so
We've got that coming up
Every clip is so far. Okay. Nevermind. Let's keep going
Then they take clips on saying I'm anti-gay or I go
I'm gay and then they play clip saying I'm gay and it's just like they're all taking it out of context
so then I say
You know when the feds show up or whatever. Well, is it really true you want to punch a congressman in the nose?
And I'm like, no, he pissed me off
I was angry it was a my dog just died, but also the feds showed up
Yeah, the fed showed up. Do you think so? They're investigating him for Russian ties
But do you think you would ask him right? You'd be like, hey, do you have Russian ties?
You got to tell us where the feds do you be like?
No, so that would be the end of it. Do you think the feds showed up about that video where he said he was gonna punch
Schiff because I don't think there's a chance
No, I I can't imagine them having the time
I I imagine most federal agents are busy. I can imagine them having the time
I don't know man. There's a lot. There's a lot going on in the world
Yeah, but I don't think they're really interested on what's going on in the world anymore
They would rather I think they're more interested in just some local dick weed fucking up alex jones's day
That's what everybody's really doing. But based on as we know the feds work for the global
No, because based on uh, his alex's whole premise
Oh, that's right. The patriot feds are taking over. Yeah, so which feds showed up at his door
It's probably part of the counter counter counter coup. Oh, there's so many coups going on
How can you keep track of them? You can't you need a coup app if you guys fucking could program an app
Get at me
Get at me if you can program
We need a coup app
You're a speech like how dare you meet me in the street, you know for saying that
I don't not gonna literally I'm not really planning to go after adam chiff
You know and all this crap, but you know
They're investigating me with no evidence won't let me go before congress as a russian agent
It's all over the damn news. It pisses you off
So then I'm like, no, it's performance art. I mean, what is it when you say
I like to knock you upside the head
Yeah, that's that again to my face. It isn't literal. It's like dude
You don't want me to accuse you of say being a
Child molester and I'm not accusing him of that
Would you have in the past?
But msm is so deceptive that they will cut that out of context and probably say I said that so you did
It isn't about alex jones and that's what frustrates me the most
It frustrates me too, but like this part of is like, okay, so it's it's a performance art
What is it if I say I want to attack you? Well, that's a threat. That's a literal threat. That's a threat
Or like if you and I go out and I'm like, hey, I want to punch you really hard. You're not going to say wow
That is really great performance art. That's a great piece. It's a great piece acting. Yeah
So that would be at least a hypothetical threat. Yeah, uh, so then he's like dude
What would it be if I said that you were a child molester? There would be slander. Yeah, so that'd be a crime
That's not performance art either. It would be the crime. Yeah, you ever hear about crimes
So I don't think he understands at all what anyone's talking about or what he's even talking about in the moment
Is he is he just like a confused weird dude? I think he's not well right now
Like is he just is he just a very confused man just wandering around the world not understanding that like
Every single moment of his life has been pure
abject confusion over what is reality
Yes
Yeah, that's that's probably
Well, I mean I want to I mean you got to assume that like around six he felt alienated because of his mother
Rejecting him and saying he doesn't get love anymore. So around that age
He probably started to feel these these real confused powerless feelings, right and that makes the world terrifying
Yeah, so you start thinking you're more grown up than you are you start reading military history books and not really understanding them
Start to get childish ideas mixed in with some kernels of factual history
Okay
So you get this warped view of the world you get narratives that
Don't exist filling in then around the age of 12 you find this kakamemi bullshit book
None dare call it conspiracy. That's just basically
Nonsense repackaged anti-semitism. Yep about the globalists and the dangers of socialism turning into communism
And then you just happen then use base your whole life on it. Yes. Absolutely. I mean this is so simple
It it really is this simple next question a lot of the rest of the stuff is just window dressing
When he gets drunk really bummed out now. Does he see pink elephants dancing?
No, that's like in a like in a tech savory cartoon. No, that's like when he's hung over
That's when he's like going through dts
He's going through those delirium tremens. Oh boy. Anyway, alex is uh this next clip
By the way, I think I just expressed what I would call the unified field theory of alex
He's a confused man. Well, I think that like we have documented him saying all of these things
Yeah, throughout the course of just four months of the show
Yeah, I think that you get a picture of someone who's
Had a real tough time for the last 35 years. I wish there was an actual like
I wish there was an actual
Access to him where we could just like see what his fucking day is like. Well, I imagine I just want to I just want to wake up with him
go throughout his day
And I will wear a mask so as not to yell
And then just follow him home and just like sit in his whole life and see what's going on there
The the problem is that we would never be granted that access until
Until everything falls apart and then his life after that wouldn't be interesting. Yeah, then we could totally fucking
I'm telling you this book we read is going to be great. We will have moved on to michael savage by then
Admittedly in the book you will write all the information and then I'll have in the foot footnotes
And that'll be it that'll be my contribution right see I've got a lot of work
I feel like I'm doing the right thing at this one. Anyway, uh,
Alex has more thoughts about how he is, uh
truthful
I have seen on court tv
juries in panels
Oh boy, and I've seen them ask what the lawyers are trying to you know pick their actual jury
I've seen the lawyers ask them on court tv and then in articles I've read
They'll say how do you know the truth? How do you know fraud most juries say? Oh off their body language are off
How good they look or how nice their dress. It's like no
off the provable facts
Is there an unelected e you
Is there an unelected global u in are the i n f world bank and w to under the t p p
openly setting up world corporate government with a hundred trillion dollars taxes every decade paid to them
Absolutely
Did george soros go and c-span it and then he overthrew ukraine with five billion dollars a u s taxpayer money
No elected government. Yes
Did he admit he funded the arab spring and the islamic takeover? Absolutely. It's just search what I said
They're pissed because I sit here and empower you
I'm the opposite. I'm the anti fake news. He's the anti fake news after listing
He just listed a long string of things that are not even remotely true
No george soros did have some hand in funding uh groups
Uh, but he didn't fund the arab spring
So he didn't create the arab spring. He funded the groups the global humanitarian
ukraine no
Oh, no, how about the arab spring? Did he no did he fund that? No
Not all of it. So were those like people those are people. Yeah, yeah
So they were kind of like mad at the authoritarian governments that they were part of and they were like
No, I can't do this and some of and some of those groups may have gotten some money from george soros because
Like I said, he's a global. He's a global philanthropist. It's not like george soros called him up
Like hey, this is george soros billionaires. Yeah, I don't know why I'm using that voice, but now
Very inaccurate. Yeah. Yeah. No, I prefer the rockefeller voice for george soros from now on very hungarian
But like yeah, all that shit all that shit is wack all that stuff is bullshit. Uh, the
The the e.u. Is unelected all this all this nonsense a hundred trillion dollars tax
Our state like our secretary of state is unelected then hooray. Yeah, like if you really want to like if you
That's true. If you want to get in I never considered that
I think we should vote for secretary of state right. I mean not every position
Do you know what's crazy?
If we did that we would actually have a functioning secretary of god damn state
It would be fucking filled with people who do their god damn jobs might be deputies
um, but like uh, if you want to take a step back and not just use the examples that he listed, right
There's the litanies of lies. I mean, and there's plenty of
Yeah, come on. We have plenty on our website knowledge fight.com where we've documented the lies
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So in this next clip alex is kind of right about something but he uses this brightness wrong
He explains that the things that the media is doing right now the joke is on you
The people who are listening and he is kind of right
I always knew the joke would be on me
Well, all of the all of the like out of context clips that people post about him
It is kind of a sigh op against the people watching it because they do give the wrong impression of alex
But again as we keep coming back to it's a better picture
Yeah, the him as a joke is a better picture than the reality of yeah
A completely damaged man lashing out at the world through his audience with
An inexplicable number of
damaged people listening. Yeah, so anyway, here we go
And they revel in it because they always say and talk radio be strong be confident never apologize. That's not who I am
When we get something wrong sometimes every few months
I'm sure it happens more when we catch something. I come and I say hey, I was wrong about that
That's uh
He apologized about pizza gate because he got a letter from james ala fontis
And he didn't really even apologize about that
He still has not addressed the fact that uh that mosque shooter was a white dude in montreal
Uh, he still has been peddling horrible lies about george soros being a nazi collaborator and even his
sandy hook
Stances now
I'm just asking questions. There are a lot of questions to ask. There are a lot of questions to ask
Yeah, and our guns bat. He still says that hillary clinton sold 20 percent of our uranium
To the russians is not true. He owes an apology on that. He owes so many apologies and he never corrects himself
It's it's he's he's called a lot of people pedophiles
A lot of them. Well, he calls them draculas to be fair. That's true. It's code. But yeah, he calls
And ren fields. Yeah, he's made a lot of uh borderline slanderous claims about people and he's never really apologized
And they take that as a weakness
And then run around and say jones admits he's fake. He admits he's fake folks. That's a sigh up on you
quite frankly
I've become such a logo or icon
For resistance that their attacks on me
Only make infor was better
This is a big essential that's happening right now and i'm very humble about i'm on a power trip
I want to see humanity succeed. I'm very humble about the planet itself
But they want to wreck your mind where you don't believe there's anybody good in the world. So you don't have hope
But you know you're good
You know you have hope
All the policies all the culture everything I promote
Human dignity and freedom not having cross human animal hybrids that the media makes jokes about but are all admitted
Not having babies with six parents or whatever. That was dangerous crap
That's fundamentally who I am
That's fundamentally on my soul that I stand for but you already know that we're changing the world
We're in this together. Of course. I believe what I say
That's gonna be a problem. I stand against chimeras. That's gonna be a problem. I
I swear to god. I bet he could win a governorship on
I'm fucking just no chimeras
But you get do you catch at the end of that? It was a of course. I of course. I mean what I say
That's gonna be a problem. That's gonna be a problem. You shouldn't say that
She shouldn't say any of this stands again
Did you notice human animal hybrids with which they turn into a joke but is all admitted
What are you fucking talking about? It's not admitted
But also like I love that that's like the second thing he comes up with after freedom
Yeah, yeah freedom
No human animal hybrids
I don't understand. Those are the two most pressing issues in my mind
I've read all the articles that he uh has cited about chimeras and they don't say what he says they said
Did you watch full metal alchemist though? I didn't see there you go. Okay. Well, maybe that's admitted
May have my research is flawed. It's admitted that in japan
alchemists
Can create chimeras. Okay. That's just a fact fine human transmutation is bad though
Just just as a heads up for anybody
Don't transmit humans in this next clip. Uh, alex wrestles even further with the idea of what it means to play a role
And again, like I said, I didn't cut out anything in between these clips
So they seem really disjointed because they are the entire video is available. I think it'll be taken down at some point
I would hope so but uh, it's super disjointed like he's just he's not making sense
So that's why none of this makes sense. Yeah, this is all in chronological order with nothing cut out
Uh, this is this is wild
Of course, I believe what I say
unless they go clip
devil's advocate things out where I interview myself
as
The head of goldman sacks and I'm wearing a top hat and I'm saying really evil crap as I interview myself as devil advocate
And I say no that's acting that's the skit to illustrate that nobody asked alex bald one
When he goes and does his skits if you know is that exactly who you are
Of course, he has politically who he is and what he does, but when he does a skit, you know, it's a skit
So then I sit there like an adult that is an important and I see some of the public a lot of them just want to be victims
They just want to go oh my god. He he says he's fake now
I mean, what am I going to do about that? He had not done anything, but he's fake news
google
Just got caught because they don't want to get sued with contractors saying delist us in huge contracts
They just admitted that was true
And they just said it was an accident because they saw my video where I laid out everything
Nope, uh, they didn't and you're lying. Definitely didn't no, uh, that's just a perfect example of him being completely fake news
Yeah, but then more importantly because that's not even all that interesting
What is fascinating is this idea of him comparing himself to alex bald one who's an actor
You know like yes, everyone knows the when alex bald one is talking about it taking brass balls
Well, as we all know
All the world is a stage. So perhaps we are truly all actors. Did you consider that?
I don't freeze in
Is that even your real name mr. Freezin? I think that's how will I know?
So dumb
It's so dumb
So pointless. How does he not understand?
How does he not understand the difference? I don't know how is that possible not to understand the difference between an an actor
acting
right him
Saying that
There's a pedophile ring under a pizza shop
Well, I mean, let's even take that away because he's apologized for that now
Just say that there's a let's say that the entire government works off a pedophile blackmail. Yes
Yeah
So that is your example instead of the pizza place
If you if you are going to if you're going if you're going to entertain this argument, right?
Now here is his through line that he should use
um
So if you're listening a j
I got you. I got your back. I like this. I like this workshopping now according to his own
Uh words, right? He's
Exaggerating and acting to show what he's against, right?
So if you're going to call him describing everybody in the government working off a pedophile blackmail ring
And act then maybe you can say that he's just exaggerating it the same way that he played devil's advocate for
As the joker or whatever the fuck he's doing. What did he dress up as the joker?
Anyways, if he's going to do that, then that's his argument there that he is
Amplifying it beyond what is a reasonable concept in order to demonstrate
What he feels is the true evil beneath it, you know, like like you're you're uh, you're you're no like your comic book villain
Okay, your comic book villain is an amplified version of whatever negative trait it is that you want that you want to describe
you know, you have your
You have your lex luther who is just an amplified billionaire who just takes things so far, which is all
Bruce Wayne is anyways. So anyways, so you have your amplified version
Describing what it is that you're actually against. So hillary clinton herself
Is a vampire squid in the same way that matt tiebe described it
Way back when regarding golden goldman sacks, right?
Do you do you see how that is?
While not a good argument
One that you could skate by on no, you don't think so
Not really. Okay. So no because alex jones playing the role of the the villain or whatever. Yes
uh him yelling about the like
the globalists use children as
like uh
Jesus there's there's really I I retract anything that I just said because I just heard yet again
You say the globalists use children as currency, right? But there's no there's nothing to say against that
But if he's if he's doing his joker thing where you know, like he's out there saying everyone should get vaccinated in order to make the
Point don't get vaccinated. Wait, that's what he was doing. Yeah, that's what he was doing. You didn't get that
That's why he thinks it satire
Because he dressed up as the joker. Yes
And did exactly the opposite of what his point was
So if he's doing that in the instance of the like pedophile sex rings and stuff like that
He is so if he dressed up as no, no, no, I'm saying that if this is the parody
Yes, and the point he's actually trying to make is that
People in the government don't do this stuff
Aha people in the government are pretty cool. Perhaps maybe he's trying to do a reducto ad absurdium argument
Yes, he's not
No
But this is a bummer. Wouldn't it be nice? Wouldn't it be nice if alex wasn't so
fucking crazy
And you said you weren't good at improv
That is that is some whose line is it anyways level improv. I'm the Wayne Brady of this bit
So a sentence no one has ever said before
I'm going to skip this next clip because it's just about how he was right about syria and that's pointless
And this next okay. So this next clip. Yes
This is really where I I think I would like us to
Really absorb this clip because I think it's it's
I think it's alex wrestling with the fact that his audience is stupid
And he doesn't know how to do it. He doesn't know how to say I can't believe you guys
Are this dumb? Yeah, and it's it's there's a lot going on here. Yes
They know we're huge
They want to convince you that we're small so you feel small
And you feel like you got conned and taken into something. So I'm on air, you know, three four five hours a day depending on the day
Totally, you know, just being real like hey when I talk about subjects, it's totally real
Chimeras when I'm getting into this article that article
But sometimes if I go here, let me act like I'm a Rothschild
Clearly I'm in a british accent and I'm being sarcastic
Reading lord rothschild quotes on air. I'm not agreeing with lord rothschild. But what's crazy is I've almost killed all the satire
And I gotta really think is the right thing to do or not because maybe it's powerful or they don't want that
because
People will sit there and say why is he
Wearing a wig saying he's a british professor
Doesn't he know this is fake this what it's satire. It's like people don't know that so I go. Hey, I'm being an actor there
I go. Oh my god, you're fake. Uh, you don't mean it's just like no
I have a syndicated radio show as a pundit and analyst when I'm you know when I'm regular Alice Jones. That's real
I'm a libertarian. I'm a patriot
I
I don't even know how the public doesn't even understand this it actually really depresses me that I'm sitting here
Covering when I believe talking about what I believe then the news says look at him in a joker outfit
Saying he wants all kids to have a hundred vaccines and I go I'm being sarcastic people go. Oh man. Why'd you get fake on us?
But see they're not even stupid. They want to act like
They've been wronged and betrayed. They were never even listeners to begin with
That's very weird. What it's very weird. What I think he is what?
I
What
Okay, okay
All right. All right. All right. What he just said that
What did he just say there? Well, let's try so so okay, so we start with we start with
uh
I love I love your foley work is truly inspiring
Right. Okay
The new york times
He's killed satire. How do you kill satire? No, he's how do you kill satire?
I think he's saying he's killed it with the satire. He's he's killed it with the satire. No, I think he I think he's saying
No, because he's making the argument that like people attack it so much that they must be threatened by it
He he did say that here's my pitch. Okay, uh, what he meant was he can no longer do satire
Because he has done it
So well
I think that might be I think that might be what we're going. Okay, so
New york times videos all of it. They don't understand
He dresses up in a wig
And they don't get that and they're like, hey, man. Why are you doing that? Right? They don't understand it
He's like, come on. It's satire. Don't you get it? Don't you get it?
When i'm not being satire of me i'm alex jones and i'm a libertarian also
How is he being sorry? You can't be
sarcastic
At the same okay, this is all right. This is insanity. Here's the here's the last here's the thing that got to me
All right, uh, he just said the listeners
Weren't actually alex jones listeners. Mm-hmm. They were just listening
Waiting for the moment
That they could jump off. Mm-hmm because that was their whole goal in the beginning. They weren't stupid
They weren't listeners to begin with. Mm-hmm. Yeah
Super weird. That's some classic cult leader behavior right there. They weren't really fans anybody who leaves is a surprise of person
Who doesn't really who doesn't really care about the movement at all. They didn't get it
They're not patriots secret globalists. They're secret non patriots. Yeah, or they're uninformed
They're the un info warriors
That's really what our show should have been called un info warriors. Oh, that actually would have been pretty good
Uh, so this this next clip, uh
This this next clip is starting to think he doesn't know
I think he doesn't know I think he doesn't think anyone knows what he's talking because they don't he's crazy
He's a crazy person. I don't think it nobody knows what he's talking about except people with his exact same kind of schizophrenia
And then really dumb people think he's smart, but it's actually not smart
It's scattered disjointed thinking that appears kind of deep
That's not
But it's like if he lies about secret sources that he has why wouldn't dumb people believe him
That is a good point
All of the verifiable sources that he's ever cited have not said what he says they say
But I don't know about his secret sources
I don't know. I did not consider his secret sources. Yeah, but you gotta be dumb to fucking believe an asshole like him
And he has secret sources
Fucking everywhere high level in I didn't know he had high level sources in google
Not even that's a new one not even in google in the vendor company who google subcontracts. Yes. Yeah
He's got them everywhere. He has a network of spies
In every institution in the entire united states. Yeah. Yeah, it's a complicated web
Oh, what a tangled web we weave
Shakespeare
Damn it. You got there first. You son of a bitch. Uh, so this this next clip
Will Shakespeare said that I don't know if you really I know you I know you said Shakespeare
But I just wanted to make sure that our listeners heard that it was will Shakespeare. That's important now
Obviously, I know him as bill. Yeah. Yeah
I prefer to call him William Shakespeare
This next because I'm nasty. I don't know. I don't know where I got that one. This next clip is Janet Jackson. Alex Jones doing
Willie Shakespeare level versions of uh drama
Explaining that he's a victim now
I'm not one to act like a wimp, but they've they know that's true. That's true. I've got a mental attack google's had his band off advertising
um
They got reporters following around everywhere just info crew operatives just scum of the earth just total inversion of reality
Total lies just absolute whatever you read they say flip it. You've got it. I mean
I mean literally
I can't get into it later and walk them out, but it's it's just
Popular
I mean, they are so scared as they implode skip it that they have just fully embraced the lie
And it is it is beautiful and it's destructive just to them jones. It so
uh
The full attack is on us right now because because they know we've hit the zeitgeist because we've touched you
You've touched us. You are the power. So spread the links info wars.com. The site's not even a beautiful site
It's got great routers. We're updating and the video is the articles
Why are they so scared of see think about why do they attack this? Why are they so against it?
I can speak to that. Can you?
everyone's
You know right thinking people are super against it because you lie all the fucking time. You're a bigot. Yeah, you are
A cancerous force to dialogue pretty bad. Yeah, so that's why it has nothing to do with you being
Right too real to write all the time has nothing to do with misunderstanding your sarcasm or your satire
I get it every time I've seen you do something wacky. I get it and
To our credit a hundred percent. We even said
Like even with that shift clip
He's drunk and he's an asshole
But there was no part of us that was like he wants to actually beat up shift. Yeah
We defended it. We're like this isn't illegal. This isn't like this isn't his free speech
He's just being a dick. Did you read the the clausterman book?
But what if we're wrong? No
The so in it he goes through all of these different
Circumstances in the past where everybody agreed
This is not true and then it was later proven to be true. All right now
I occasionally have that moment with alex jodes. It's a natural
It is it is one of the one of the things that I constantly like
Have to stop myself and just go
Yeah, but what if he's right? Yeah, I have that moment until I research anything he talks about. Yeah. Yeah. No, he's an insane person
Yeah, and then I'm like, okay. All right, but but
Sometimes sometimes there's a part of me that's like
God and here's the worst part
Sometimes I wish he was right
Like the world would be more interesting how much more fun with the like evil and horrific
And miserable. Well, but life would be so much more simple if we did have some sort of uh, you know
Arch global evil group that we legitimately had to fight against. Yeah, because in that
In that reality, we're all captain planet. Everyone could come together much easily much much more easily than it is
We can now life would be so much less messy
And it would be a lot more like the movie independence day, which is something I've always wished for
Sure. I mean alex says I believe in the past also said that the government is likely to get a fake alien attack
In order to uh unite the people as a globalist scam. How fun would that be?
Anyway, that that last clip uh in his victim
Uh self-victim status claiming. Yes in there. He said, uh,
You know, basically all these lies are gonna come out. I can't talk about it
But it's all lies and you're all gonna see which is the beginning. He literally can't talk about it
It's against the law. He can't even he shouldn't even say that he should be in contempt of court for talking about it
That yeah is bad. Yeah. Now this next clip is way worse
This next clip is like this
If his lawyer isn't screaming at him about this
That's a bad lawyer
And uh, I got the whole system coming after me coming after my family and it's just all a blessing
I'm trying to take everything away from me. I got him hitting me on every front financially culturally family
Uh, you name it and you know, what's great though. I'm just going up against it. No matter what happens
I'm just cheering people up and all these other doors are opening just like the documents on google and more
It's like everything you hit us with
There's not just evil in the universe folks
And that's why the enemy's so scared. They know genuine this let me see it
And I'm genuine enough to tell you I'm ashamed of some of the
Things of my laziness and things I don't do enough sometimes, but I'm totally real
I want you to have a future and I see how pathetic dumb down the public is and I'll sick the public is
Under this attack and I get sad because I realize I'm a shadow of my ancestors as well
And I'm just I want you to win
I want you to win and I love you and I appreciate you and I'm a hundred percent real in what I say and what I do
They just take out a context when I do satire joke around. So I gotta say no, no that's satire. That was a little
Performance piece, you know where I dress up as a spy and I'm spying on people at coffee shop
There's all those videos. They take those now. They show college kids. They go. This is fake news. Look, he's
He says this and now he says that there's no context
He twice in there said that I am a hundred percent genuine. I am sincere
He mentioned his family twice in that clip. He's talking about his troubles. He's clearly talking about this court case
Yep, he again hammered in I am very serious about everything except for these times
That I play characters. Yeah, and that's gonna be a real problem. That's not a good idea. It's not good
He should really take this down. Mm-hmm
Well, it's gonna be on our podcast now. It's a good thing that we're gonna be available to testify. Yeah
so
that the end of that clip talked about how they teach college courses about like fake news using his
Uh, you know his stuff. Yeah, they should that'd be a good idea. Absolutely
But then we should all learn more about fake news that transition. How can you learn more about fake news knowledge fight.com
I think that's a good place to go. Uh, so this this is our final clip coming up here
And it it weaves in from that last clip. Uh, and then it is
Very insulting to people who disagree with him
He says some really funny things and then at the end. I think he gets into an existential crisis about whether or not he is in fact real
Of course, so this whole time
Oh, man
He doesn't believe he's real. Well, this whole time he's been going on and on he believes he's a hologram
No, it's not so much that it you'll see you'll see. All right
They take those now. They show college kids. They go. This is fake news. Look. He's he says this and now he says that
There's no context because the public's so brain damaged
And and we those of us that aren't brain damaged can't be on a power trip enjoying the elite
We have to go. Oh my god, the public's so brain damaged. They were putting cribs and never held. They weren't breastfed
Like you they're real just little babies real scared
Disassociated or looking for a mommy or looking for a daddy like you don't want to be their mommy or daddy
We want to build them up and help them
info wars.com forward slash show
And I want to thank all the leakers that helped expose google censoring us
But if we just accept their official story that oh, it's an accident. We're going to stop now
They've admitted they're doing it. They just don't want any resistance building to it. It's a too late google
Fill your hand. They'll have a federal investigation saying
Doesn't mean I'm being fake. It means give us your full attack. Let's go
politically
You're not physically peaceful
Everything but it's okay. You understand info wars.com forward slash show spread that link
He does not know what he's saying. No, he is all over the map
I think we got it. I think we got to play like just the end of that because it starts with the fill your hand
Yeah, fill your hand. They'll have a federal investigation saying I mean pull a gun that's a figure of speech
Doesn't mean I'm being fake. It means give us your full attack. Let's go
politically
You're not physically peaceful and they misrepresent everything but it's okay. You understand info wars.com forward slash show spread that link
He does not know what he's saying. No, he is all over the map
That's just in 10 seconds. He's saying fill your hand. Yeah, now. I gotta be clear. I'm not talking about a gun talking about metaphors
allegedly, I mean
Give us your full attack politically
That not physically he says politically peacefully. Give us your full peaceful attack. You guys get it
Don't don't fill your hand
info wars.com slash show
Fill your hand turn off the goddamn camera fill your hand.com slash info wars slash show
We got to get fill your hand.com. Oh my god
Oh
Fill your hand.com links directly to knowledge fight Jordan. I gotta be honest
This has been one of the most arduous episodes we've done
I don't know why but for you somewhere in the middle. I lost it
I lost I know you you cut out like probably at least four or five clips, didn't you like three
I lost my interest in talking about this episode. You've never cut off three clips before
I'm so bored
By this not not the again great sales pitch. Well, not like the I'm fascinated by his
Version of what is real like that sort of thing. Yeah, that's a philosophical argument that we could have for years
Like exactly what is the nature of
We're not even gonna play clips anymore. We're just gonna constantly discuss whether or not
We'll go to reality is and we'll get like University of Chicago professors to come in and discuss
Nah, fuck those guys fake news. Uh, but like that to me is endlessly fascinating this idea of
People are attacking me. I'm misrepresenting what they're attacking me about and twisting it into something else. That's fun
The google narrative on its own is fairly fun
But the two of them mixed together
When we know that what's underneath so much of it is this divorce
It just isn't fun for me. This is the central question
Does he actually believe that what they are attacking him on is that
Clip of him dressing up as the joker. No, does he truly believe that he can't right?
I think that
I think he has a bad lawyer maybe
Or he actually has five lawyers or he might not have and she has three lawyers
He might not have listened to legal advice then because I think that he can't possibly I think that his lawyers know what's best for him and they
Use this argument of its performance art as a way to do like it's not true
he's not a performance artist, but
If they are going to bring in info wars into a custody battle and a divorce trial
That's your angle. It's the only way to excuse the violent outburst. It's a perfect angle and it's a very smart one
Right, but it doesn't play
To his insecurities about losing his audience is a fucking lunatic, but no for alex to his audience
It doesn't play no in his own mind. He knows he has to defend himself against that and he
Again, I don't think he could have listened to his lawyer's advice, but
And he thinks he has to play both sides of it
Yeah, it's a very thin line that he's trying to walk between
I am a performance artist when I do stuff you don't like and I am a serious person when I do stuff
You do like now. That's what he's saying to the court. Yes, but he's saying to his audience
That he's never a performance artist unless he's dressing up as the joker. Yes, gotcha
And then the rest of the time i'm alex jones good old classical liberal slash libertarian god
So yeah, he's a fucking lunatic
That's what that's more interesting
That's way more interesting to me
Than even his bullshit. Yeah, like that bullshit argument is not that's just
Like I don't want to poke holes in that. I hope he succeeds
All right. Well, that's weird. I don't want his kids being taken away from him
No, I don't believe well, they're not vaccinated. Well, look
Fine, but they don't
That's bad, but that's not my choice to make
You know, I think I think it's wrong, but it's not my choice
Right, I don't have any evidence and if there were evidence that he was abusive
I don't think he should have his kids. Absolutely. No, but there isn't any evidence of that really
Not that we're aware of I don't know that his son doesn't want to
Moonlight at info wars over the summer. I don't know that that's not the case. Right when I was 13 14
I would go to my dad's office
And hang out with him at the university
So like I don't I don't know that his son is any different and doesn't want to just go hang out at the info wars office
I mean, yeah, that makes that makes perfect sense. At that age you're you're doing your dad thing and you you want to make him
Yeah, yeah on the one hand it could look like indoctrination, but on the other hand it could just be
completely innocent
And if you're gonna make the indoctrination argument fucking if your parents are christian, they should be you know, right get it get them out
Yeah, there's a long there's a long road to go down. Yeah, exactly
So I don't want it
I don't necessarily want his kids to be taken away from him
And if the argument that needs to be made in order for him to keep his kids is that he's a performance artist
Then by all means go for it
Because realistically that is what he's doing
But you are kind of saying you are kind of saying that it is all right for him to lie to keep his kids. Yes
I do agree with that in open court. It is all right to lie. Well because it's not really a lie
It's a it's a murky. All right. It's a murky area of perception
Right because the real talk he is a performance artist in as much as he's a propagandist
Okay, he is not really necessarily
But then all the things that he presents then the argument has to come down to intent
And that and that again is our central conversation that we always go back and forth on
inexplicably is whether or not he intends to do these things or
Not so if he is a performance artist, then he is
Intending to be this insane in order to dupe people if he is a propagandist
He is intending to dupe people with this information
But if he's a believer
Then
What does that mean? Well, I mean there there are people who sell junk products
Yeah in the world outside of info wars fucking fox news info wars
Yeah, but like there are people whose entire existence is about selling a shitty product
Yeah, like I don't think they should have their kids taken away just because they trick people into buying things
They don't need that's true. So if at the end of the day his although imagine if donald trump's dad
Had had donald trump taken away from him what
What a better world. Well, I mean maybe maybe the world we live in isn't inevitability and some other rich kid would have ended up being president
That is a good point. But be that as it may that's we are in the darkest timeline. That's irrelevant. That's irrelevant. Yes
I don't think
necessarily
I don't know. It's it's it's so confusing, but like
Legitimately, I believe that he is a real person and at the same time he is putting on an act
So both arguments are kind of true
Yeah
The idea that he's saying this in court in order to not have his kids taken away makes total sense to me
And I'm not against it at the same time him coming on the air and saying I am real
This is me. It is contradictory to what he's saying in court just on its face
But it's yet at the same time it is not contradictory because he is in his capacity as a performance artist
Exactly. So as a performance artist, you would absolutely say that while you were performing
But you would never say that in your real life
possibly
There is no untangling that performance artist web
Just like your gordian knot of a microphone cord. Yeah, absolutely
It's it's a whole mess and what's more important to me
I think
Is love
No
Fair enough
I don't know what point I want to make here
I I really don't I I
worry
Not worry. I am comforted by the fact that
alex jones is
inscrutable
until we can actually
spend
Months upon months talking to alex jones in a personal setting. Sure real life
Well, one day there will be like we'll do a the jinx style
Serious. Yeah, we have to yeah, absolutely. Yeah, and we should talk to his wife and everything
Like we should talk to everybody involved with alex jones's life because he is such an endlessly fascinating
Evil monster. He is. Yes. Like like he's he's our version of a true crime novel
Where you you go back through
Fucking, you know
Any serial killers life and go back through step by step how all of this crime wound up happening
Where this guy comes from what kind of and there's always that element in a serial killer's life where you look at their childhood
And you go oh, oh, that's there's yeah, there's there's always that point like to me
alex jones is a serial killer that
Is is expressing his serial killing in a different way. So he's a very fascinating figure that is both
somehow empathetic
and monstrous to a degree where you you think
How can this happen to a human being and at the same time
This human being should not be allowed to be anywhere near other human beings
Right because they're a monster like it's so it's so weird to see the push pull of what is wrong with this man
And a part of me that is like maybe the most cynical part of me
Wonders if he drops in those little pieces about his his tragic life
And doesn't present them as tragic in order to make people like us
Take an empathic. Oh, that is too cynical for me. And I'm the most cynical
That is that is one. Here's my problem. But you know what that would be a great performance artist
It would be a great performance artist. It would be it would be kafka's the hunger artist. Yeah, but go ahead
um
I'm not I'm not going to deny that based on my cynicism
I'm going to deny that based on the genius level talent it would require
To drop in those at certain intervals
For such a short period of time and in such a genuine way and make it really seem like you're struggling
Yeah, that story of his mom kicking him off her knee. That's true. Yeah, that's true
Regardless of whether or not it ever happened
To him that is a formative moment in his life. Yeah. Yeah
And it is I think maybe the rosetta stone like we said it it kind of unlocks a whole lot
But at the end of the day, uh, as we wind this down
um
The the stuff that's going on with his divorce is is tragic
For all parties involved, especially the kids
Nothing worse than a divorce battle. We should not uh, don't get married vaccinate your kids. Don't get married. Uh, also like
Let's
Let's try as a society to resist the urge to mock
about this
Stuff mock him for what he deserves to be mocked for
We in this episode have mocked him about his lies
That have come straight out of his mouth
We've mocked him about him not understanding satire and we've mocked him
For saying things that are going to end up in court and
Correctly quoting wilshbake wilshbake wilshbake spear wilshbake spear. Yeah, so those things are great. They're fun. They're fun, but
It it it really kind of to me it does it also makes him a more empathetic figure the divorce. Yeah
man's just trying to keep his kids
Yeah, and his wife has been
Uh, denied custody multiple times which suggests there's something else going on there
Suggest there might be a reason but again, it's all this stuff. We don't know
No, there's a whole mess that we can only speculate on and no we can't
No, they're well, right. I meant as a as a as a culture. Yeah, your mind reels. Yeah, exactly
And to me like the first thing I heard the first thing that I felt whenever I read about his his custody battle
was not
Oh, he calls himself a performance artist. It's
Based on all the stuff that we've talked about and all the stuff that that we've heard
He might be a good dad
And
I felt for him. I was like maybe
Maybe he is a good dad. You know, it's fascinating that we do a podcast about him being a propagandist and we hate him
But at the same time everybody else who heard this news couldn't wait to tee off and make fun of him about stuff
Yeah, and our immediate response was you thinking he's possibly a good dad
And me I mean, obviously my first thought was these poor kids. Yeah, like this is drawn out for years. This is
No, I I agree. No, no, I mean, I don't want to
I mean, I hate children. So I don't give a shit. I hope they I don't give a shit and my my immediate thought was
I mean, it wasn't
Joy
No, it wasn't like I can't wait to make fun of this. No, this is bad
This does not make me feel good. This makes me feel like I've gotten more messages about this
Than anything that's ever happened to me. Oh, absolutely. It's like Alex. Joe's getting divorced. What do you think about this?
Yeah
That's not bummed out. That's what I feel about it. I feel bummed out
Well, there's no real possible winners either. No, like no matter who wins this court case. It doesn't like
Alex Jones still has to be Alex Jones for the rest of his life
He's he's never gonna get help no matter what happens. Now. Here's here's the better speculation for you and I all right. All right
Um, if this is what takes him down
Is that a net positive?
Like is it does it do I mean, well ultimately this is the do the ends justify the means
I mean your your argument is is based on like a false presumption because it won't end up taking him down
This is nothing. I mean, you know, take his money away. Take all of his stuff away
Take his kids away. It breaks him as a man. It won't
It won't I I
That's not our speculation. I know but no
I don't think
Look, I mean, I guess what it comes down to is no the ends wouldn't justify the means
He should be taking down for being a propagandist. Yes a monster a bigot
someone who has incited violence who has caused damage to
hundreds if not
More lives and that's not what this child is what he should be taking down for
Not the fact that in his trial
He's trying to defend himself by calling himself a performance artist. Right. There are tons of nazis who are good parents
That's true. There are tons of people who are completely evil people who loved their kids
And we're capable parents now granted they raised them in systems that led them to possibly also be nazis
Well, I mean christians again. Sure. So, I mean, that's not it's
I just I hate I hate the idea of
A custody battle being played out publicly first of all and then second of all
It being used as some sort of punitive thing
Yeah, like I would hate the idea of society treating it like oh, alex all this shit you've done on the air
Here's your punishment. You don't get your kids
That is a bummer. That's horrible
And I think a lot of people feel that way and that to me
Like as much as I hate alex. I hate that
standpoint way more. Yeah, because that
Here's here's the weirdest thing
Uh
Well, not the weird. This is the most novelistic thing
Nobody hates alex jones more than we do
for more
Accurate reasons at the same time right now. It feels like
We're the only people who empathize with him because I don't think his listeners are empathizing with that
I think they're saying that it's a conspiracy against him generally. That's the sense that I've gotten maybe the only people
Like us
I mean, I think on one level we might be the only people who care about him
In that we want to see him get the fucking death penalty for the right reasons
I know I know no that was a metaphorical speech. I'm not telling him to fill his hand
Listen, I'm in a weird place as a whole but like yeah, I think that there's a decent chance that we're the only people who have
uh a robust
Fair perspective on him. Anyway, uh, sorry
Sorry, we didn't talk about fun, uh, divorce shit, but uh, you can go find that at every other website
Yeah, yeah, you didn't come to us for the same shit other people have so to sum it up
This video will probably be taken down from the internet at some point
Uh, if anyone if he has a good lawyer if anyone's smart, uh, I think alex will might be off the air for the next few days
I would assume that his lawyers would be like get fucking paul joseph watson and i would hope so
Uh, and then uh, google is not trying to delist them. That's stupid
Um, but anyway, let me ask you a question google is trying to delist knowledge fight dot com
No, shit. Did we get a an official letter? Mike sernovich told me. Oh, that's son of a bitch secret sources
Nobody breaks more truthful and more huge stories than mike. You know what else they're trying to delist
twitter.com slash knowledge underscore fight
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But uh, you know jordan until next time
Are we a couple of uh policy books? We are
Andy and kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding
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