Knowledge Fight - #33: April 22, 2017

Episode Date: April 25, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan about a special report Alex Jones put out on April 22nd, wherein Alex Jones steps deeply into a pit of quicksand made up entirely of his own lies. Topics covered: Does Alex like cigars because they look like dicks? Is Alex Jones a complete liar about Sandy Hook? Alex Jones is a complete liar about Sandy Hook

Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes who like to sit around and drink red wine and have conversations about Alex Jones. It is what we do. It's what we do best and we're committed to a holy war. Yeah. Well, I am. To a very lopsided holy war. Exactly. It's like David and Goliath, except like David does not have a slingshot. Nope. He's just running around. And he's got one leg. And David has receipts, as they say on Twitter these days, about Goliath's past. That's the battle we're engaging in.

Yes. Yeah. Now, let me ask you a question. What's up? Is there also a David Goliath dynamic between you and I? I am the Goliath of knowing shit about Alex Jones. And I'm the David. I got nothing. And somehow you come out ahead every time. I think everybody comes out behind, but whatever. So I'd like to say before we get going here. It's David and Goliath, if they both just got depressed with their respective governments. We're like, Hey, man, let's just fucking have a good time. You and me. Let's make fun of a Sadducees. I'm not sure what the Sadducees did, but I know it's from the Bible. Not important. They had it coming, whatever it was. Absolutely. Absolutely. So speaking of having it coming, I'd like to give a shout out to our friend, Jason. What's

up? Thank you for donating. I know you donated a while back, but you deserve this. I'm a policy wonk. Welcome aboard, Jason. Hi, Jason. You're one of us now. We're going to do this once a show for people who donate. If you'd like to join the ranks of the policy wonks, please hit up our Patreon. There's a link on knowledge fight.com. You can find also thank you to everybody who's been downloading and gotten some nice emails from people. I love it. Keep them. Keep it. Keep it up, everybody. Thank you for listening. We love it. It's very good. Join the Holy War. So today, Jordan, what we're going to be talking about. What will we be talking about today? We're going to be talking about what happened over the weekend. Yes. Now, I will say that it was one of the most delightful

birthday weekends I've had in a long time. We went together to go see the dollop. We did. It was fantastic. They were in town. And my best friend in the world, Nikki Gifts, was in town, him and his wife. We got to spend some time with him. I closed down an arcade bar one night of the weekend. And then Alex Jones did what he did on Saturday. Okay. This is a great birthday gift that he gave me. All right. All right. It's so good. I'm glad he at least cares about you. He does. Certainly more than I mean, even for somebody with a narcissistic personality disorder that he still thinks about you on your birthday. That is very, that's very impressive of him. At this point, still have not heard from some of my relatives, but Alex Jones is giving Alex is giving right.

So what he did was on Saturday, he released two special reports. Yes. Now we're going to deal with one of them briefly because it's not really worth going into and it's kind of stupid. This the one we're going to deal with first was about how people are diagnosing Trump with a mental illness and that's bad. Takes one to no one. Well, technically it is bad according to the rules that psychiatrists themselves put in place after I think everybody was like, hey, Nixon's a fucking lunatic. It was Goldwater. It was Goldwater. It's called the Goldwater rule that psychologists and psychiatrists are. It's basically something that they've decided to impose on themselves because what happened with Goldwater was that a bunch of people,

psychiatrists, psychologists were interviewed in a magazine that asked them to diagnose Barry Goldwater. That seems like a bad idea. It was because they gave him a bunch of diagnoses and then he sued them and he won. Good call. So now psychiatrists and psychologists aren't supposed to diagnose public figures that they have not actually interacted with. Right. However, at this point there are a number of mental health professionals who are coming out and their argument is that they have a right to warn or an obligation to warn people. Interesting. Well, it's the same thing that if you're in therapy and you say you're going to kill someone. Right. The therapist is obligated to either tell the police or the potential victim. Right. They have to do that because

otherwise they're being negligent. Right. So these therapists and psychiatrists are arguing that President Trump, I regret that I said that. No, no, no, no, those words are bad when they're next to each other. Trump. So you're saying that psychiatrists and psychologists were neglectful in their duties because they didn't inform Afghanistan that Trump was about to murder a bunch of people. Well, sure. That's one thing. But then even bigger, the American public, they have a right to warn them of the mental illness. Hey guys, a little bit late on that. A little bit late assholes. Right. But that's the problem with these like guidelines and stuff. I don't know how I feel about it to be perfectly honest. I think that there is

a little bit of gray area in terms of diagnosing someone that you haven't had sat down with and, you know, had the interaction with. But at the same time, you can see behaviors very clearly. You can tell that Trump lies all the fucking time. Pretty much constantly. So there are those things that you can see publicly without actually having a session with somebody. And, you know, it's like I said, it's gray as a medical professional, you are still a human being. And as a human being, if you don't look at Trump and say, oh, that that motherfuckers crazy, you're an idiot. Yeah, somewhat. But Alex put out a video about this and it was about narcissism, essentially. I think a subject very near and dear to his heart.

I think you might be able to guess how it goes. He comes firmly on the side of how narcissists should rule the world. And everyone else is like, are we going to go full solipsist here where he's like, I don't even know if any of you motherfuckers exist at all. I've never been to Tibet. I can't prove it exists. Are you in the studio right now? Maybe you're all projections of my mental illness. That's shockingly close. Of course it is. No, his take on it is essentially that like, the globalists, oh boy, who are using psychology and psychiatry as a weapon. He's almost full. We're all yeah, we're on Scientologist territory. Close. Okay. And he's saying that they're what they're defining as being a successful man is now narcissism. Ooh,

which is dicey. That is not a good but he also does what you can. I mean, you could smell this coming a mile away. Uh huh. He wants to talk about Trump and mental health. He talks about himself a whole lot. Oh yeah. Makes it about himself on. I'm not crazy. So I have two clips that I'm going to play. The first is just classic narcissist move. The first is just fun. Okay. And then the second one is kind of a summation of his point and we'll just play it out. Here's the first one. Like I said, this one's fun. Sigmund Freud was obsessed with poo poo and holding his crap in and smoking cigars as phallic symbols. I like cigars because by the way they tasted and the fact that they got me high as a guy and tasted good with, you know,

whiskey. Not because they look like a weenie. Alex Joe is really wrestling with his subconscious. There's a lot right there. Yeah. Thanks. Also shout out to James, I believe. John, maybe I can't remember. Sorry. Someone on Twitter pointed out that clip and I went and hunted it down. Oh, great. Great. Too good. Too good. Love it. Not because it looks like a weenie. A weenie. Freud was obsessed with his poo poo. What? Okay. I'm fair. He was. I prefer him going on the profanity laden rats. This is gross. This is creepy. The baby language. Yeah. Poo poo weenie. It's like, it's like Patton Oswald's bits. Like I'm going to fill your hoo-ha with goof juice. Yeah, that's

G rated, but that's what a serial killer says. That's terrifying. Yeah. And if I were like a parent and my child was listening to this, I wouldn't be comforted by poo poo and weenie. No, no. I would be like, I would, I would be way more concerned about the content than the actual obscenity. I would rather someone swear and have good intent. Yeah, but that's what rational people believe. Yeah, I guess so. Anyway, this next clip, this is just sort of as an encapsulation and sort of how he ends the clip. Just sort of a thesis statement about the psychology stuff. As I recall, he basically makes the argument that narcissism is bullshit, but then he displays broadly narcissistic tendencies as it plays. But they give us fantasy. They give us entertainment.

They give us all this other stuff. So we then role play off things that don't exist. So they teach you how to be more mentally ill. It creates more, more mental illness that didn't exist before. We're being trained to do this. Makes sense. So they say, thinking you're successful, thinking you have prowess, thinking you have any confidence is insane. They don't want you to have any confidence. So they want to say confident people have a mental illness. But then other people, I wouldn't call it narcissism. I'd call it being posers or make believe. They love to always dress up. They love to go to award shows. They love to give themselves awards. Like they love to believe they're super powerful. They think they get

all delusional and get off on it like an insanity fair primadonna. They imagine they've got a successful rock band. They want to go to a movie theater and have a party where people come in and take photos of them as they enter like they've got paparazzi. They do. They want to go. So I get most people that are in media do it because they are make believe want to be stars. And like ever Bernay said in the 20s will merge Hollywood and politics and make everybody stars and everybody else that isn't a star in his low level. I'm not involved in media to be a star. I'm involved to change the world for the future of humanity. So I get why the narcissist psychologist and psychiatrist who want to be the bosses and the superstars who control everyone and save everyone

typecasting themselves as the heroes. Wait. Wait. Wait. Hold on. Hold on. I want to type them. Did he just say that the narcissists and those guys who want to be star or who are stars they want to control everybody and save them. They want to be the saviors but they're fake saviors. Right. They're the saviors of a created problem. Right. So so what he's doing. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. I mean the not not even metaphorically one to one. He just said what he is doing. Exactly. I don't know what that's a good enough time to fucking drop out of that. I'm glad I'm glad he I'm glad he understands it. That clip is like three more minutes long. And as I was as it was playing I realized this isn't all that good. Like it's that clip isn't great and I'm too

excited to get to the other. Okay. Okay. The other thing he knows that what he's doing is wrong. Maybe. Because he just criticized evil. Exactly what he was doing. Evil twin in the womb. Yeah. It's that again. No. And it's a you know. Oh if you say that you're prowess and you say that you're and all he does all the time is say how he has no ego. I don't want to brag. So humble. So humble. I don't want to brag. But if you you know they're they're you're the you're the narcissist. Basically that's his whole argument. Yeah. Exactly. So the other clip that he put out on Saturday was titled new Sandy Hook information. Holy shit. There's a new Sandy Hook. No there's new Sandy Hook information. Oh I thought you were talking about new Sandy Hook in Maine. They just

started a town. Sure. All the people just migrated to me. They all just moved. Why not. Well actually it's all actors. So I was thrilled that he posted this video just based on the title and I could not wait to find out what the new information was. Right. Because this is something he should not be talking about. Absolutely not. It's a terrible idea. I was talking to you earlier and I told you my theory as to why he's decided to bring back up Sandy Hook. Yes. And that is because he's in this custody trial and there's a lot of people clowning on him on Twitter saying hey we should follow Alex Jones around after he loses his kids and tell him that they were actors the whole time. Yes. So there's a lot of people making that kind of joke. Gleeful Schadenfreude. And so he

now has to be like fuck they're hitting a spot. I got to come out and prove that I'm right. Right. This was a bad idea. Whoa. Because. Are Alex Jones. As we committed a blunder. A big old level blunder. Yeah. This is this is bad. He invaded Russia during the winter. So more or less. Intellectually. Yes. That is what he did. Got you. So in this we're going to play this out. It was an hour long clip that he put out. I've cut out some. I've cut out a bit because there's a lot of stuff that's just repetitive shit about how he's not an actor and he's totally real. Just literally verbatim the same stuff that we've heard in past episodes and we don't need to go down that road again. Yeah. Naturally. There's a lot of other stuff that he just uses vaguely true instances

of the media lying to reinforce his arguments. Right. I've cut out a lot of that too because like I don't believe you when you're saying that the media is lying but I also don't want to defend the media. Yeah. So I have no skin in that game. I don't care. Just because yes they do lie doesn't mean they're lying now. Yeah. And I don't want to. I don't even want to entertain the possibility that we're on that tip together. No. So that's that seems like a fruitless battle for us. Yes. But as this goes out I have at least three instances of huge potholes he hits really big ones. All right. That he is busted. So we're on flat tire territory. This is multiple you busted episode. OK. Then I will say this just in anticipation. Alex busts himself accidentally

and then he tells one of the craziest stories from his life that I I can't believe it's true and we're going to get to all that on this episode. You are teasing me so hard. More Sandy Hook info. How can there be more Sandy Hook info. Spoiler alert. There isn't. Of course. What else would there be to discover. There's nothing. I mean even if he's right which he's not and he's a fucking asshole and monster for for what he said about it but even if he is right he's covered it completely. Should I just tell you what the new Sandy Hook information is because I'm not sure where it comes up but I can just tell you in one sentence. OK. OK. So his argument of the new Sandy Hook information is and he says this I just realized this if the media has lied to us about all these

other things why wouldn't they lie to us about this. That's the new information. That's not new and that's not information. So wait. His new information is an inference. Yep. OK. And a bad one. I worry. I worry. I worry about this because it's and it's not even just that it's a speculative inference. Big time. It's not even like if a then B it's if a then why not be. No. Did you consider that. It is still if a then B. It's just it's the flimsiest like you said inference. It's it's it absolutely doesn't track. The premises don't lead to the conclusion in any way. Of course. But it is still set up as if like if they did this breaking news. Maybe. Yeah. You ever. How about. No. So here's the. So how long is this.

How long is this video that he released. How long is the special report. An hour. An hour. An hour. And that's the information that he spreads out over an hour. Well I like that's the new Sandy Hook information. Well like I said he does make a meal out of talking about the media lying. Right. And again it's like OK. We talked about it in a past episode that the video of Anderson Cooper's nose disappearing. Yes. And if you look into it there there are like video specialists who say like reverse Pinocchio doesn't really necessarily have to be a green screen. There are aspect ratios and things within a camera that could account for that. You know you don't know what the situation is. I've seen this happen before. Not necessarily

a green screen. Unconclusive. Yes. Alex is like this is absolutely a glitching green screen. Naturally. So a lot of that takes up his time. And like I said he fucking gets into a fucking crazy story about his life. True fact. Anderson Cooper's nose is green. It's true. It's one of the greenest things on this planet. It is true. If he tries to do the weather. Oh man looks like Voldemort. So to your question even further. Yes. If he has that little information he touches it to an hour you'll see this is how he starts. First off my friends Donald Trump has had his attorney general come out Jeff Sessons and said the number one priority right now is going after Julian Assange and quote leakers. Well you're not a leaker when you're exposing

criminal activity in an out of control rogue government. And it was WikiLeaks and the great patriots in our government that leaked the information that helped get the truth out about the Democratic Party and the Republican establishment that put Donald John Trump into office. Couple things. He's very conflicted about is he saying WikiLeaks is good. Yeah. In defiance of the Trump administration. Yeah. And he talks about how like that's disloyal. So I'm assuming that Julian Assange has released the new Sandy Hook information and we're going to get right into it. The shitty info. This is this is the this is the preamble to getting really into the meat of what it is. Julian Assange himself the patriot

from not America at all. Nope. Who is not beholden to our laws. Certainly not. Is is the one. No it's not. But there's two things in that clip that I think are interesting. The first is that the president does not tell the attorney general what to do. That's not how shit should work. So if Trump is telling Jeff Sessions a go after them. Yes. That's really bad. They are they are independent branches independent. All right. Now let's let's let's get rid of any pretense of how our government should work. Fine. That look the Constitution meaningless today. It's a suggestion. It means nothing anymore. Fair. The the DOJ people are fired for disagreeing with Trump. So it's made up. Yeah. It's all nonsense. That's fair. That's

fair. If anybody does anything assume that Trump either has no idea what's going on or said in tears over just a long series of TV graphics about his poll numbers. Go do something to stop Julian Assange. Jeffrey please distract them Jeffrey. So let's. Hey he doesn't know his first name. The second thing that I think is interesting is that Alex is accidentally in there I believe making an argument why you should prosecute WikiLeaks. Really. Well he's saying that these patriots these rogue patriots in the intelligence community gave them classified documents which is illegal and that they disseminated them which would be illegal. No. Yeah. Disagree. Yeah. Disagree. Fine. Technically technically the people who leaked the information under the

barest rule of the espionage act which again should not be used ever period because it's bullshit but technically they did commit a crime. Right. But if you're going to say that WikiLeaks by distributing that information committed a crime then every single news organization on this fucking planet. This is a bigger argument than we have the time to get into right now. Yes. But I don't think that WikiLeaks should be treated necessarily the same as a normal journalistic outlet because they are doing things strategically and they have been shown to withhold leaks that they have gotten for suspicious reasons. As have the Guardian. Okay. This is going to be a longer conversation than we have time to deal with. No one's innocent. We need to get down to

the new Sandy Hook information. My point I think if I can put a button on it. Yes. Is that there are instances like the case of Chelsea Manning who revealed things that were atrocious. They were war crimes and what have you. Yes. A lot of the stuff that came out was prosecuted for. A lot of well that's another thing. Again that's a whole other thing. Yeah. A lot of the stuff that was leaked here at these Clinton emails and stuff. They don't document a crime. Right. So I don't think you should treat them the same way. One of them is a horrible propaganda campaign against a specific person. Okay. The other is legitimate whistle blowing. Interesting. That's and I don't know how you treat them differently. Right. But in my heart

and in my mind I know they're not the same thing. I think that's where we get into the and this is the bullshit argument I do not want to make. But it is that slippery. You're about to make it. The slippery slope argument. I don't I rarely ever agree with slippery slope arguments. Sure. Because usually there are cop out but in this particular instance as as well as in I think the Gawker instance. But that's a whole nother can of worms. Well look I know what you're saying and what you need to what you need to clarify or be is like a slippery slope is a logical fallacy because you're saying that something will lead to something in the future and you have no way of knowing that. Yes. Well you can say instead of a slippery slope you can say it makes a precedent.

Yes. The Gawker case makes a precedent that's really scary. Yes. But it's not like okay now everybody is going to go down. Right. That's the slippery slope saying saying the courts can look at this and say that oh that's an example. That's precedent and that's bad. The only the only thing about that though is that by setting that precedent now you now you expand the liability of a news organization. Sure. And when you do that that makes them far more cautious and fearful and I would prefer a a fourth estate that goes too far than one that is afraid all the time. I would like to err on that side too. That's why I would also think that you probably shouldn't fucking publish people's sex tapes. Yeah. So I mean I agree. Yeah. We the world is confusing. It's almost like the two of us

can't solve this ourselves. Probably not. It's a man. Life's complicated. Hey call the proud boys. Get them in here. We need to outlaw censorship. Look there's a lot of details here. There's a lot of stuff that we can't really it as much of policy wonks as we are it's difficult to get to the bottom of it. I'll tell you one thing. Alex Jones is a man who loves to get into the details. He really gets into the nitty gritty. Yeah. He talks about that a little bit in this next class. I assume he goes into the espionage act and how it was written in what the early 1910s in order to. Yeah. I'm assuming we're going to really get into the meat of that. Right. Yeah. I'm somebody that really tries to get to the heart of the matter and what's going on. Yes. Yep. Yep. You are. You

definitely are. That's a short clip. We just confirmed that word for word. It's important though that he's saying that because we're going to demonstrate as we do on every fucking episode that he doesn't. So just have that in your mind. Okay. So he goes on after this again not to talk about Sandy Hook but he goes on to talk about how he was on Rogan that one time. Even though it's painful to cover some of these topics and even though it's very very upsetting to see the media take out of context what we cover what we say and what we do to demonize us and to lie about us. I've seen that in the last few weeks at a level I've never seen it before. Pure and total deception. I go on Joe Rogan's podcast. You did. A few months ago. Number one

podcast he's ever done. Number one podcast ever period. Now over 60 million downloads conservatively for one podcast. A four hour one at that or three hours, 45 minutes. We say we don't agree with Trump. He's got big problems like grab him by the you know what pussy. Yeah. None of us agree with that. But you can see how the media took it out of context and act like he was jumping out of a bush grabbing women. These were women throwing themselves on him. So I wouldn't call it rape but it's still you know not good behavior to say yeah you can just grab them. Yeah. Animals basically. We're mammals. It's all over the news again. Alex Jones defends Donald Trump. They'll play the clip but on both ends of it ladies and gentlemen they

will not show you Joe Rogan myself Eddie Bravo saying we Trump is wrong. Trump shouldn't have done it. Trump does a lot of bad things. Those are quotes. Those are the quotes that he would like to say and just for fun. Here is the clip of him on Joe Rogan. You can see if what he just said matches up at all with reality. Do we also get to hear Eddie Bravo asking about aliens again? No. I'm I'm missing. I want more Eddie Bravo in my life. Well then go fucking watch he and Joe Rogan. I'm not going to do that. He enjoyed that much Eddie Bravo in my life. He and Rogan just had on the show on Rogan's podcast just had an hour long violent argument about whether the earth is flat. So if you want that go find it. It's all right anyway. All right. I'm done with you. Here's the

clip of damn it Eddie Bravo. This is what Alex says people take out a context and I would argue that he is taking himself out of context as if Donald Trump's in the KKK as if Donald Trump. Are you sure he's racist? Are you sure? Well there's any discrimination. He mainly hires gay guys that run his casinos and hotels and his friends with him and like gave interviews to the advocates 20 years ago. It's all just complete made up horse crap. He's leaving a rainbow flag at the RNC speech. He says Republicans have to stop being mean to gay people and have to be inclusive and he's about to enforce civil rights laws for gays and others and they're calling him a literal homophobe. Now listen all I'm saying is my problem is the upside down BS man. But this

is my problem with it. My problem with it is that people want to use a real you're a bigot you're a this you're a that they want to come up with a nice quick label that officially makes them in you in that makes you bad it boxes you in and defines you and then you have to defend yourself. Look you said it best at the beginning of this. Donald Trump is not perfect. He's a man and he's also a super ambitious super wealthy man. It's constantly on the go and those kind of dudes are type a hyper aggressive personalities and he's definitely said some shitty shit. I've said right. I mean don't you agree? We all do. Yeah. And the big one is one that he said in confidence with that Billy Bush guy that grab him by the pussy thing. That's the big and who has it in

confidence especially if you're famous said man it's crazy women throw themselves on you you can do anything you want. That's not a sexual assault. A woman's climbing up on top of you. You can do whatever you want. That's what mammals do not when she wants it. She gets it. Imagine if it was sexual assault. It's pure horse. Imagine if a woman said yeah I just I could just see it in their eyes. I could just go up there and grab them in the balls. We would laugh. We would laugh or fuck. If Rihanna just talked about how she could fuck any guy she wants just walks up to him grabs him by the dick. We would be like yeah. Bitch is crazy. Totally. We would think it's amazing.

Now the son of a group is he wasn't talking about that he hides behind bushes and waits for joggers and reaches out and grabs him. It's also out of context. He's out of context. He's having a guy conversation like he described it as locker room talking. And there's a asshole outside with a recorder. I know I got this. And this is not defending him. I mean it's definitely not something he should have said probably right. We could all agree to that. But what is he really doing? He's really we call talking shit. No. So that's nobody calls that talking shit. No. That's the clip from Rogan. And I think that anybody saying that he was defending

Trump's actions is totally right. The only he was absolutely defending Trump's actions and even the grabbing by the pussy stuff like that clip. Joe and Eddie Bravo were sure defending his actions. That clip is again. Go fuck yourself guys. That clip is not a depiction. What he's talking about is not willing participants. He's talking about like just kissing people before they even get introduced. He's talking about moving in on people like a bitch. And then they reject him. But then he grabs and grabs people's pussies. Like that's not what's going on. And Alex is absolutely in that clip making excuses for him. He hides behind the.

Hey look he's not perfect. Which is. Hey look he's not perfect. Which is what horrible people do. They're like look I'm not perfect. Hey. There are worse people. Sure. There are worse people. It's it's it's not. That's that's the thing they like that false bullshit of like well it's not rape. Right. That it doesn't make it OK. No. It's a monstrous every day thing that so many women have to deal with. But your defense is well I mean it's not rape. That's not a defense. The defense is like well it could have been worse. Yeah. Great. Yeah that's how that works. Good call. Hey look you totaled my car but I'm not going to I'm not going to press charges

because you didn't kill me. It could have been worse. So already Alex has lied about what he did on Rogan's show. He's already twisted it and I got the receipt right there. All right. You busted out. You're going to use you're going to use a lot of a lot of slang today. I've just seen people say that on Twitter and I've always wanted an excuse. I've wanted an excuse to say it but I've never had the now you got it. Yeah. That's what this real that's what this episode is really about. My receipts are all fleek. All right. No you're done. All right. So this next clip Alex says that the media takes him out of context but he has an interesting twist on what his integrity says. They absolutely

laugh at me and they think it's all a big giant joke. Yeah they laugh last year they laugh that this year they cut it out of context and they lie. Ladies and gentlemen I would never do that to somebody and in fact when we've gotten pieces of news that we've discovered have been taken out of context that we were given we come out and do a retraction. Bullshit. Please go to knowledgefight.com slash live files. If you would like to see a thing a list of things that you owe people apologies for. You owe George Soros an apology. You owe Hillary Clinton an apology. You owe the Ninth Circuit Court an apology. You owe you owe all your employees an apology. Just how about we do it the other way. Find any retraction. Well there's a Pete's Gate one from recently but

isn't he actually just he he himself said this is not a retraction. Right. Right. Right. So that one is immediately the classic example that he can go to now because it made such a media splash when he did it that he'd be like like I did there. It's not a it's it's not a retraction. You have to retract it. You have to say the entire Pete's Gate story was wrong and we were wrong for doing it. How many different times and this is not. I'll tell you this. I hate this. This Sandy Hook video also not a retraction. Oh it's not. No. I assumed I assumed. Although after we get done with this episode I think I might email him a link and ask him for a retraction. Oh because I can thoroughly prove that he is a complete liar about this. OK. I can't. I can't overstate it.

It's just literally he's a liar. So in this episode there's going to be no lying versus stupid. None. No. This is full on. Yep. He is in full control of his faculties. There's no wiggle room. He is lying. Absolutely. Well we'll get to it in a minute. But here's where he starts to introduce the narrative about Sandy Hook. This is probably like I would say 10 minutes into his hour report. No it's because we're not fake when we get more information and learn we were wrong about something that we come out and talk about it. Now I'm going to get into some new Sandy Hook information here today. So he introduces saying that we're going to talk about Sandy Hook by

saying that like when we get new information we come out and talk about it because it's about truth. Right. So he's going to acknowledge that he was wrong. That would be new information and that he actually that would be old information that would be that he's damaged a lot of people's lives and hurt a lot of people. Right. And he is very remorseful about that because that's not what Info Wars is about. And just by his actions he has minimized the murders of people's children and traumatized parents. Yeah. And he doesn't need to harass them in person to do that. No. Just his actions are plenty. Yep. But instead of actually getting to the information he goes to complain a little bit about Madeleine Albright. Oh good. That was exactly what I was hoping for.

Some of the new developments and what's been happening in the media. And the first thing I want to play though before I get into this to kick this off. Now I'm going to get back to Donald Trump later. It all ties together is Madeleine Albright on 60 Minutes with Leslie Stahl 14 years ago 15 years ago saying 500,000 Iraqi kids dying was a reasonable price to pay. And I'm going to tie that into Sandy Hook and so much more straight ahead. Here's Madeleine Albright. We have heard that a half a million children have died. I mean that's more children than died when in Hiroshima. And you know is the price worth it? I think this is a very hard choice. But the price we think the price is worth it. So there you go. It's a good price. It's worth it.

That's 500,000 Iraqi children. The 1991 war was wrong. Turns out Saddam was a CIA operative. It was ordered to attack Iran in the Iran-Iraq war, ordered to attack Kuwait. Given the green light, US ambassador told him it was okay. But what am I getting at here? We don't know. What are you getting at here? Also those things about Saddam that he says at the end, you notice he doesn't have any documentation for it. No, not true. He doesn't prove it. He just says it and he's like, oh, it must be. And if you go to his like, you go to Info Wars and try and find any documentation on it, there's nothing. Nothing. So this Madeleine Albright thing, he said it was 14 years ago, which would have been 2003. That is a fucking huge lie. It was 1996. It was a 1996

interview that she did on CBS. I was going to say because it's not about the Iraq war, she was not involved with the Iraq war. No, it was about Desert Storm. It was the original time in Iraq. What happened? The prequel really. It was the Phantom Menace to our Clone Wars. Right, right. So she says he doesn't give any context to what she's talking about, which he said he doesn't do. I would never take someone out of context. He doesn't take anybody out of context. So what happened that they're talking about is that Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait. That did happen. Alex, if you'd like to prove that he was told by the CIA to do it, I welcome you to do that. For now, what we know is that he did that. And in response,

we put sanctions on Iraq. We put very serious sanctions that ended up causing a lot of people to die. Economic sanctions and that sort of thing. Madeleine Albright has gone on record and said we were very specific. We did not put sanctions on food or medicine. Those sorts of things could still go in. But you know, people end up hoarding stuff. Right. It's not something you can really control the distribution of. No, that's that's a big problem. But that's not our problem necessarily. And I don't know how you'd solve that. So 500,000 and I don't think I don't think 500,000 children is a an acceptable price to pay. Absolutely not fucking anything. But what she was talking about was in that interview was, is that an acceptable price to pay to try and stop someone from invading

other countries. And that is a bad quote. That is a bad quote. And so in democracy now back in 2004 caught up with Madeleine Albright and interviewed her about that clip. Yeah. Amy Goodman is quoted as saying, Secretary Albright, the question I've always wanted to ask, do you regret having said when you when asked, do you think the price is worth it? Here's Madeleine Albright Albright's response. And I quote, I have said 5000 times that I regret it. It was a stupid statement. I never should have made it. And if everybody else that has ever made a statement they regret would stand up, there would be a lot of people standing. I have many, many times said that. And I wish people would report that I have said that I wrote even in my book that it was a stupid

statement. Oh, so she stood up and gave a retraction for what she exactly said. Yes. That is both honorable of her. And also, it was a stupid thing to say. It was. And I wish she hadn't said it. Sure. And I wish she had known that when she was in fucking power. Probably. Probably. But you said it after the fact. That's like Obama coming out and saying like, hey, I wish we hadn't killed so many civilians. Sure. Sure. I agree. It doesn't make it better. I believe you. It doesn't make it better. But this instance isn't the media lying. No. It's someone who made an unfortunate statement. Right. But at the same time, even as stupid as that statement is, you kind of understand where it came from. Yeah. Like there was a war going on. There

was a guy who was in power who was invading his neighbors. He was a monster. And it's like we talk about sometimes you end up siding with a force that you don't 100% agree with to take out. Oh, like we sided with Al Qaeda against Russia. Right. In a proxy war. Right. It's the same sort of thing. You make terrible decisions. You make unfortunate alliances. You have to like sometimes you do that and it's fucked up, but it's not it's not what Alex is saying. Global foreign politics are I'm not gonna lie to you. Pretty complicated. It's just a complete mess. Yeah. And look, yeah, she shouldn't have said that. Yeah. But fuck you, Alex. You're taking it totally out of context and you're not you're not you're not a wonk, man. You're not dealing. You're not dealing

with the not until you donate to our Patreon. Oh, Alex Jones. Alex Jones donates to our Patreon. He will get a policy wonk. Absolutely. We will absolutely do that for him. That will be a very complicated moment if you donate because we can't say he's not a policy wonk. So after this, he goes on to give a string of lies about, uh, about the times media has lied about stuff. Uh, and then he gets into talking about the lies that made us bomb Syria. And he talks about that and he ends up saying, uh, Trump's pretty cool, man. He's pretty cool. Great. Glad. Where's the left criticizing Trump for doing that? Right here. Sorry. Sorry. No, I know. I knew that was going to have a very, I'm sorry. I saw that. You should have seen, you already had your finger on the

pause button. You son of a bitch. Am I that predictable? Well, in this, in this sort of instance, let's start from the top. And again, where's the left who criticize right here, baby? That's us right here. Where's the left criticizing Trump for doing that? You're not there. Then some will say, Oh, well, you don't like Trump. No, I like him on most issues. I think the Syria thing and other things are very, very questionable. That's what I'm getting at here. We don't choose sides except for the truth. And it doesn't mean it's easy to find sometimes. Ladies and gentlemen, because there's a lot of research has to go into this. So we're not just soundbites here. A lot of research does have to go into that. No, it doesn't. A lot of research,

they do not do. No, absolutely. Zero research. I would love to be a fly on the wall for like in the war room or whatever. Their writer's room is probably beer pong. It's probably everybody who was turned down for the WWE writer's room. Oh man, I would not be surprised. Right? There's got to be some overlap. Yeah. In terms of like mentality is like, ah, how are we going to? What's the angle on this? Yeah. Who is Trump about to turn heel? Yeah. Aliens. Aliens. Fine. Ryback is from the future and he feeds on fear. Who cares? Our wrestling fans are going to love that. Yeah, exactly. You just made a wrestling reference. It's the only one that I really know and mainly because what? The Ryback. What? Yeah. This sounds like an alien's name.

So yeah, that's dumb. Real dumb. And so it's not always easy to find the truth. It's not. But sometimes you should just Google it. I'll tell you what. And then you'll find the truth. It's real easy for me to find the truth about things Alex says because I would dare say 80 to 90% of the time it is the opposite. Yeah. Or 95. 95. It's the first link on Google. Sure. But even like Google, Google a thing he said. Don't, don't tell the first link that comes up will disprove what he's doing. Don't tell people to say that because then that's encouraged. That's just the end of our show. Well, that too. Don't because don't do any of your own research. That's what we are here for.

But it also would sort of lead people to do surface level researching and like, that's not good. You should know. Don't trust the first link. Go for like four or five. That's what I'm saying. At least, at least get two links. Yeah. So Alex is going on this peer review. I've cut out a whole bunch already about him talking about how I'm real. Speaking of peer review, congratulations to everybody who did the March for Science. There were 40,000 people in Chicago. Hooray. Yeah. Great. I hope we did it. Did we, did we get science? Those goddamn paid protesters. Did we get, did we get science back? 40,000 people out there getting paid to protest. I know. That's got, that's a, that's if, if they didn't even

offer us like 25 bucks, like juries get paid more than we do. Absolutely. And they get like a meal stipend. Yeah. Right. We should have at least gotten a meal stipend. Yeah. We got it. Soros. Soros. Where are you at? Is he at George Soros on Twitter? If so, we gotta fucking get some money. Right. Bro, pay your boys. At least give us a meal stipend. So he's been talking about how he's fucking real as shit. Yes. And he goes on in this next clip. He never lies and he only acts whenever he's acting. And he's a lizard man or whatever. Yes. So this next clip is him explaining that, you know, he's not saying all this stuff to defend himself. He'll explain. And this isn't about defending info wars or myself. It's about the audience and new viewers

who've only heard lies about us understanding that we're really giving you in-depth research and showing you where we got the research so you can verify this for yourself. You can't. But also I love that he says that. This is what people do. Because that's so blatantly not true. No, but that's what people do. Like a lot of people who don't want to get busted in some sort of lie are like, I'm not lying. This is all about truth here, man. All about truth. It's one of the best ways to get people to just believe you is just say, I'm believable. A lot of people, a lot of people are dumb. It's, it's that simple. That's true. It is true. And when you play on fear and emotion and those sorts of things, it makes people shut off cognitive little stop gap measures in their

brain that would otherwise guard them from believing. Yeah. The lizard brain takes over ironically the lizard masked part of your brain. Exactly. Yeah. So that's dumb. This next clip, Alex then goes on to get into more about the media lying about him and takes a harsh pivot. Are there any specific lies that he talks about the media? Or is it just like all the media is always lying about? I'll tell you this. We're going to get to it in the next clip. Okay. But this one is just sort of generalized lies. Uh huh. And then it gets into big old Islamophobia. Great. Great. I was wondering when we were going to get to hating on people who believe in Islam. Yeah. That, that should just be a segment on our show is the, I'm sorry. All right. All right.

We're, we're 45 minutes in. So that means it's time to apologize to our Muslim brothers. And sisters. The media since day one has said that I said the attacks never happened. The Sandy Hook. When you can go and find myself and Rob do and everybody else that works here on air in more than seven debates we've done with both sides, people that think the official story was exactly as that happened and former top school security training experts, law enforcement folks like Wolfgang Helbig saying he believes nothing happened. Quite frankly, I've said, I don't know the truth. But if you've got a government caught lying about WMDs that causes wars that kill millions of people and hundreds of thousands of children from starvation that Bill Clinton intensified and

people that launched fraudulent wars against Syria. So his, so his basic argument is we know the government is willing to accept that half of a million children is a, is a reasonable loss or at least Madeleine Albright is in a statement that she has said. Exactly. She's walked back. Well, but even, but even so our government is, is, it does say that killing civilians is acceptable in the rules of engagement or whatever. It's like, there's a math on it of you can kill up to 30 people if you get a good one or that kind of a thing. So we know that the government is willing to kill children. Yes. So why wouldn't they then kill these children? Well, actually, Alex Jones depicting his position on Sandy Hook in that quote that we just played. Oh yeah, I already

let that one go. But, but in that snippet, his, his position is even more nonsense than what you just said, because his position is there have been people on the show and we've had debates about it, but I don't know. I can't prove it either way. I don't know, but the government clearly does lie to us and is okay with killing civilians. So your part was only, that was the sort of like, the carrot dangling out of his argument. That's him indicating that he does believe that they did that is a good point, or at least he's very inclined to believe that is a really good point. The part about like, I don't, I can't prove it either way is cowardice. Yeah, that's him hiding behind. Like, man, if I say this, someone's going to sue me. Do we, do we have a clip of him?

Like, has he said it? Hold on. Would you say that perhaps he is mischaracterizing his own statements? I don't know. I don't know. You don't know. I have no idea. That's odd. Let's see how this plays out. Generally, you generally, whenever I ask a question like that, you have the answer immediately. I have no idea. But let's get that Islamophobia part where he's doing the what about Islam game that he likes to play, right? All based on lies. And they do this over and over again. I don't want them to sit there and shake their finger at me like I'm a demon that doesn't care about children being shot in mass shootings. I believe mass shootings happen. I believe people get killed by guns. I know the statistics. It's like the 14th or 15th, depending on the year,

cause of death. Drowning's higher. Drowning is not higher. Cancer is higher. We all know that. But drowning is definitely not higher. I looked into the CDC. There's no way drowning is higher. No. And I looked into the CDC, uh, discuss the statistics about this. And he's pretty off in terms of causes of death. The top 10 causes of death. Number 10. Number 10 coming in. Suicide. Suicide. A lot of those. And that includes guns. Well, not all of them, but a lot of them are. And then, uh, number four is just the vaguest fucking thing, accidents. A lot of that does contain accidental gunshot wounds. Right. Right. But I mean, his point is well taken in terms of like heart disease and cancer. Number one and two, uh, lower respiratory diseases is number three.

So like the, yeah, I mean, if you want to, if you want to go down that road, yeah, it, I mean, until we cure heart disease, let's not tackle guns. Well, but that's not even worry about it. But also the, the like, the point that people who are against guns generally make, or at least against everybody having guns is that a lot of these deaths are really avoidable. Whereas heart disease, cancer are a little bit more complicated. We're doing a good job of curing cancers, but it also takes early detection in order for it to be efficient. Heart disease is a thing where you have to have people change their diets and shit. Yeah. In the same way though, a lot of those are just like, Hey, human beings, we're not really supposed to live past 60.

There, there's like your body just, it's not for that. There's some of that, but, but that's, that's irrelevant. The thing that people are complaining about is not generally that no one should have guns. And it's not even saying that guns kill everybody. Right. It's saying that would be a silly argument. All of the accidental gunshot deaths that exist could be gone. They don't have to happen. Yeah. If we didn't have guns, right. And that's, well, I mean, there's, there's a super easy way to get rid of that. Or if we, or if we just had better control over who had guns, if we had better education, we had gun control. Yeah. Or if we had better education about guns, the sort of thing like don't leave guns out, that sort of thing. Don't let your kids be around them.

Don't leave guns loaded. All that sort of stuff would be really effective. And of course, Alex's argument against that would be second amendment. Yes. If you, if you try and take our guns, it'll be 1776 all over again as he yelled at Pierce Morgan one time famously. So yeah, but I mean, he is, he is, he is right. Sort of that. I mean, it's not 14. It's closer to like 10, but like, it isn't the biggest cause of death. Fine. No, that doesn't matter. Also, well, also we're not allowed to study it because somehow the gun lobby is so strong. They got a rule in Congress that you can't do any research about gun deaths. So that is all estimated. And also the, the, in the context that he's talking about, he's talking about mass shootings and stuff like that. And it's not so

much that millions of people die from mass shootings. It's that they're all horribly traumatic and usually involve incredibly innocent victims. You know, in the case of Sandy Hook, children. I mean, it's at this point, like I'm, I'm running, I can't, I can't do it anymore. Like I can't do it anymore. We just all, no, not this. We've just all accepted that mass shootings are happening. Like if nothing changed before, what's, what is it going to take? And do you know what it really is going to take? Do you want to, the only real way that people are going to make any changes there is if minorities start shooting white people all the time? Yeah. Is if we, or, or if we start, if we start utilizing our mass shooters in the correct way,

right? We don't want them going to schools. That's a bad place. Sure. Now, don't, I don't like, I don't like the line you're starting to go down. Here's what I'm saying. Here's what I'm saying. Right? If you see a mass shooter, uh, walking down the street on his way to a mass shooting, just point him towards a board room. Just point him towards a rich person. I'm not saying that you should encourage anything. I am not encouraging violence towards anybody. Sure. Pregnant pause. Just point them in the right direction. All right. There are, just point them in the right board room. Anyways, I'm, I'm neither agreeing or disagreeing with your, uh, please do not take that out of context. Your statements are your own. Anyway, here we go.

Natural death. It's, it's, it's not even in the top 10 and that's counting even the suicides into it, but still it's an issue and no one's denying that you are. We've had Islamists run people over with cars lately in, in Stockholm, Sweden, other areas and they say let's ban cars. A lot of people instead of Islamists is coming in. No one said ban cars. They wouldn't say it's Islamists. They'll say a, a, a Swede ran over somebody and his name's like, you know, Akbar, whatever, from as usual Syria or Somalia or, or it's the same story. And I've got stacks of MSM saying Trump's wrong for even saying that this latest attack in England, the latest attack in Paris killing police, running over people, you name it, was Islamic media meltdown over Trump

correctly calling Paris attack terror Islamic. It was, they have riots every night of the week, basically burning down cities. Tourism's almost dead in France now. They've got millions of Islamists running around. It's my crew was there last year. You can't walk around at night by the Eiffel Tower without Muslims coming up and physically assaulting you. That sounds reasonable. And I don't want to fight with the Muslims. The point is you can't go to their countries. They don't want you to walk down the street. If you're a Christian or a Jew, they'll kill you. You're gay. They'll kill you. He conveniently doesn't want to talk about Chechnya there. But yeah, no, odd odd or, or gay reeducation camps or any number of these different things. What, what, any number of the fucking

shit that he's fucking. Oh God, what's, what's the difference? What's the difference? One of them is a Muslim. One of them is a Muslim. And one of them is like the instance of Muslim stuff is not really what he's saying. But more importantly, the stuff about Trump is like what people were taking issue with was the way he tweeted out about it before the facts were in was irresponsible. No matter what the truth of the situation is, if it does, you know, if it does come out that this incident incident was an act of terrorism, it's still wrong of him before the facts are there to say that sort of thing. It's unbecoming. It's not just unbecoming. It is the president of the United States. So that's what makes it so that is that is that is it's unbecoming if somebody

is unbecoming of a human. It's unbecoming if it's somebody in the news. If it's the president tweeting this shit out. That is a an incitement to violence. That's what it is, especially if it's a president who has the record that he has. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. That's that's him equating that situation with every other single thing that he's ever said. And that's that's what Alex, then that's him not wanting to wrestle with the details. The other thing that I think is funny is he's saying they're having riots every night and like they posted a video a little while back proving that like they're trying to burn down Paris and there's riots. Okay. And it was people shooting off fireworks and like a celebration. Right. It was some holiday and they just showed

the video. It's like Muslims are out of control in Paris. It was Chinese New Year. Basically, I was like, what is fucking wrong with you guys? Did you know that Muslims celebrate Chinese New Year? I didn't know. I didn't. That's not a famous thing, but real talk. It might have even been been best deal day. Yeah, I don't I don't remember exactly which holiday it was, but it was something that just took wildly out. They just lie. Also, also, even if you're like that's the most easily disprovable thing there because even if you're exaggerating, you know, even if you're resorting to hyperbole, which as you know, I would never do. Never. Uh, saying that there are riots every night implies there's a lot of riots regularly. At least 365 a year. Yeah. Uh, and even then,

if you're saying it, well, I'm not, I don't mean every night. I just mean there's a ton of riots. Yeah. Okay. So show two. Right. Show me two riots. Yeah. Well, not one riot because you know what? One riot I will accept. Sure. But if you're going to say there's riots every night, I want at least two and two isn't even enough for a pattern. Two is not great. No, two could be unrelated instances. If you want to develop a pattern and then test that hypothesis, you need at least three. Yeah. You need at least three. So I'm just asking for two. I'm lowering my bar of information for you. Information wars out of courtesy for your busy with all the other skirmishes in the info war. Yeah. You know, you can't really focus.

Listen, hey, he's fighting an information war on like six fronts at this point. Plus a custody battle. Plus he's busy. Yeah. I don't think he could come up with two questions. He's got a lot of shit going on. No, but again, he's got a lot of researchers. They do a lot of research. So just research in depth to riots. But again, again, this is the sort of thing where he makes these claims that they just aren't ever supported by anything. So hooray. Great. Please demonize a population based on your whims to create a storyline. Please go ahead and keep doing that. It's not going to bite you in the ass ever. Never. Well, I mean, admittedly, a lot of people have gotten a lot of power by doing it. He's made a lot of money ever made so much money. That's kind

of a thing that human beings do. We're easily influenced by demagogues. And that's why we're not making any money. He's making millions of dollars selling bone juice. He's got nothing. His trick is demonizing an entire population. We're going about it backwards. We're demonizing a guy. Well, this is where we get into trouble. And we're being sympathetic to him in some ways. Way more like not his rhetoric and not what he stands for. But as a tragic flawed human being, we're being way too fair. We need to change our game plan. Who should we demonize? Is there like an Aztecs or someone who's not around anymore? Let's demonize some group that's not. No, that's not even. Let me tell you something. That's not even cool. I met an Aztec the other day.

He was chopping off somebody's head to give a sacrifice to the sun god. Oh my god. Right? These dirty Aztecs. We need to do something coming out of our ground as zombies. Right. And just beheading people left and right in praise to the sun god, which as we all know, there's only one god and it's a moon god. This isn't going to work. We were destined to battle. We have the moon god versus the sun. This 100% is not going to work. It's not going to get us any more donations. This isn't the way we do it. Let's just move along. Yeah, we should have picked the Incans. Incans? Yeah. Inca. Yeah. It's not Incans. Incans. No, it's the Inca. Inca. No, it's its own. Who cares? Look, that's irrelevant. I was talking about Incan Park. They're a great band.

I'm so numb. But I'm one step closer to the fucking edge with your jokes. Okay. All right. Sorry. You know what? After 33 years of being alive, I finally found a place where I belong. That's another Lincoln Park song. I don't look. Look, I don't know any Lincoln Park songs. That was three. I didn't. I didn't catch that at all. I'll tell you why. You know what? I don't know any goddamn Lincoln Park songs. I know their name is Lincoln Park and they don't spell it right. All right. This riff will be forgotten. All right. So anyway, this next clip, Alex has figured out where all of the stuff about his Sandy Hook position that the media is lying about is coming from. We're getting into individualized the media has made. This is the specific

and where they came from and these figured it out and I'll let him speak his piece. And here is patient zero article. We found Donald Trump and the amazing Alex Jones, New Yorker magazine. This has got to be the most plagiarized story in history because I looked at everything from the LA Times, the Associated Press to everything else I've ever seen with patient zero and they all lift the exact paragraph and don't even change it. This is the most crazy thing I've ever seen. Now, you mean, look at this, September a lab at the tax. They quoted it. Jones amazing reputation arises mainly from his high volume. I have to pause there because you're totally right. If he was able to figure out where it was

coming from, they attributed it. Yeah. So they were using quotes. They put a little they put a little too like quotes, but quotes and they said from the New Yorker. Hey, Alex, it's like a double apostrophe. These things, the quotation marks and they're how journalists use other people's reporting in their own report. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Cause it turns out there's a lot of news. Right. And you can't do all of the news by yourself. It's only plagiarized if you don't cite it and clearly they did. If you're able to trace it all back to this patient zero. Anyway, yeah, that's a really good point. I completely missed that. That's fucking crazy. Assistance that the national tragedy, such as the September 11 terror attacks, the Oklahoma

city bombing, the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, and the Boston Marathon bombing were all inside jobs, false flags are up secretly perpetrated by the government to increase his tyrannical power. And in some cases sees guns. Jones believes that no one was actually hurt the Sandy Hook. Those were actors and the Apollo 11 moon landing footage was fake. Now you notice there's not links here. Now let's talk about this. This has been in 5,000 articles since then, conservatively, that I know of. A lot of stuff doesn't end up on the internet. It's in newspapers, physically or on TV. Just like you've seen more than 5,000, 6,000, 7,000 articles the last week

and a half about me. 8,000. I've come out and said I'm fake. I've come out and said, I don't believe anything I say. Never said that. There's no audio. There's no video. There's no nothing. So now I now listen. I've listened to this podcast before you have. I'm, I'm just gonna just hunch. You may have audio. I just might. You might, right? But before that sounds like a you move before we get to that. At the end there, he's saying that everyone's saying that he's fake and there's no audio, blah, blah, blah of that. Yes. Everyone is responding to your lawyer. They're not talking about something you said. Most people collaborate with their attorneys. Most of the time when an attorney speaks for a client, they're saying what they've agreed

is going to be their game plan. Right. So maybe that's wrong to make that assumption and you've gone rogue from your lawyers. Maybe that's the case. Which, and, and we're not going to put, we're not going to put a medium maybe on this. We're going to put a very plausible, you did exactly that maybe. Yeah. I don't have audio of you saying you're fake and I don't even think necessarily you're making that claim. I don't know what the fuck is up with you. But if your lawyer audio tapes his sessions with you, I would almost guarantee. Can we foyer those? Yeah. So now he's saying that that article is patient zero of him saying that Sandy Hook was fake and that no one died in it. Right. And he doesn't. And they don't have any,

they don't have any audio of him saying this. No links. No links. I would like New Yorker did not do its due diligence. They needed to post links to all of these things he said, and you can see that they didn't do it. So that means they don't exist. Dan, I rest my case. I would like for us now to time travel back to the Alex Jones show on January 13th of 2015. Your honor, I moved to strike this evidence from the record. Denied. But what I'm curious about is, do you think that there's a new level of sophistication with a lot of these false flags where they plant a couple of pieces of, you know, I just want to make it clear because it doesn't, there's no context. Is this one of his crazy

collars? Yeah, it's a collar. But what they're discussing is the Charlie Hebdo attack. That's how they got into this. Gotcha. And he's making the argument that the, because I think Alex does reference it and he doesn't say the Charlie Hebdo. So I just want to make sure that people know he's claiming that that is also a false flag. So then the Hebdo is a false flag. Absolutely. But doesn't that fit within us Islamophobia nightmare? Yeah, but it's the globalists are doing that to make people more afraid of Muslims. It's complicated. It's really stupid. This is a very tangled narrative. And it also, as I recall, had something to do with strangling free speech too. Oh, well, that makes perfect sense.

Right. Anyway, here's Alex's response to this collar. Flimsy evidence that get everybody talking and steer them in the wrong direction. So like to make it, to make. Yeah, when you're trying to, I mean, decipher cloak and dagger, dirty tricks, it's pretty hard to do. It's just that when you, then you learn that they were funded by Western funding, the, then you learn that it was the same Amarillo Milwaukee connection, underwear bomber, then those are big red flags that they were patsy provocateurs. The classic M.O. has been followed. And then yeah, it kind of becomes a red herring, you know, to say the whole thing was staged because they have staged events before,

but then you learn the school had been closed and reopened and you got video of the kids going in circles in and out of the building and they don't call the rescue choppers for two hours. And then they tear the building down and seal it and they get caught using blue screens and a email by Bloomberg comes out in the lawsuit where he's telling his people get ready in the next 24 hours to capitalize on the shooting. Yeah. So Sandy Hook is a synthetic, completely fake with actors in my view, manufactured. I couldn't believe it at first. I knew they had actors there clearly, but I thought they killed some real kids and it shows how bold they are that they clearly used actors. I mean, they even ended up using photos of kids killed in mass

shootings here in a fake mass shooting in Turkey. So yeah, or Pakistan, the sky is now the limit. I appreciate your call. Hi, this is Alex. You busted. Oh no. Wow. That's pretty overt. That is very overt. That's crazy. He just said all the stuff that he said didn't exist. He said all the stuff that he said the media is making up about him. Huh. Hey, Alex, fuck you. Yeah. Seriously, fuck you. You can't, you can't lie on that now. Nope. You can't pull that. You can't pull that back. Don't fucking put out a special report and claim that everyone's lying about you when you lie about yourself. What the fuck is wrong with you? And it's not like it. How long did it take you to get that clip of him lying verbatim?

Uh, five minutes. Right? Yeah. How do you, how do you not at least take it down on his YouTube? Take it down. Take down the thing that you said because you said a different thing. It's basic. It's completely insane. That's some basic shit right there. Yeah. It's, you know, it is kind of like the, you know, the criminal who wants to get caught. There is kind of like a, he's got to be exhausted with his lies, but be that as it may. He's like a shitty version of the Zodiac. I can't repeat more. Fuck you, you stupid son of a bitch. How dare you? That's enough of that. But now I want to get into for a second. It's not enough, but it's all we're going to do. It's enough for our show. Yeah. I will leave the rest to the parents

of the, the, the dead children who are really doing some good work telling him to shut the fuck up, which is great. Christ. I like to see that and I feel terrible for their loss, but he referenced a bunch of things there that are like little pieces of proof that Sandy Hook is fake. Yes. And I, I want to make my position clear. I think it was real and I want to make my position. That's, look, you're taking a strong stance. I want to make my position a little bit further clear here, but I want to make it even more clear. I am a person who engages conspiracy theories. I'm a person who for the last years and years of my life has been like, what if that's true? And I've looked into things and I remember when Sandy Hook happened, I remember seeing all

of these conspiracies popping up about them. I, so I went to YouTube and I watched people's Sandy Hook is fake videos. Yeah. And some of it's really fucking scary. Really? Some of it's real scary. How, how, why, wait, describe scary to me. Well, they have things that are, cause, cause it scares me just based on no matter what atrocity happens, people will try and declare it fake. Yeah. And so that means that there, that means that you can never trust any atrocity and you can never attribute anything blame because nothing is real. Well, it's scary. What was scary was that they were making these claims that seemed to be real. There was a bunch of stuff about like police dash cam videos where the time is off and it's clear that they had staged stuff

and all this. Okay. There's that instance of children walking around in a circle. What have you? There's the Anderson Cooper's nose disappearing, these sorts of things. And it's really interesting to be really scared by that and be like, Oh my God, maybe this is fake. Right. I looked into it a bit further and found explanations for literally everything that most of it was these videos that people post on the internet are doctored. Really? These things are all lies. So why? There's doctored video, the dash cam video and stuff like that is doctored. As we discussed, there's an innocent explanation that's entirely possible for Anderson Cooper's nose disappearing. Yeah. The children walking around in a circle and everybody walking around was essentially them

being like, you have to stay out of the crime scene. Yeah. Just wander around. Yeah. Yeah. Millabout. Yeah. Because there's nothing we can do. We can't like, we might need to question people. And you absolutely cannot go back into that school. No. The idea that they tore down the school afterwards. Of course they're going to do that. Yeah. It's a small town and why would you make anyone go back to this place? Yeah. No. You have that kind of horrible memory. Fuck that. It's insane. All of the pieces of evidence that he cites are circumstantial as fuck and most of them are based on manipulative explanations made by YouTubers. It's fucking evil. Why would you do that? Why would you? Why would you? The same reason Alex Jones has a show. He makes millions of

dollars off this. That's true. Fuck. People want to, people want that. Yeah. People really want to disbelieve everything. It's a thing that we've talked about over and over again. It makes life more interesting. Yeah. But I mean, that seems like that kind of stuff seems more like you have a full on axe to grind. You have an agenda there where somebody is, if you're doctoring video, it's not because you want to make life more interesting. Well. It's because you're going out there to deceive. You're pulling a prank. With a, with a purpose behind it. Sure. You're pulling a prank. That's not a prank. Well, not in our, not in our understanding of the word, but the sun. That's fucking cruelty. Well, it's that cruelty of the highest order. But there's,

but there's deep parts of the internet and like, you know, I don't even want to reference any, but there are those web communities that are based on cruel humor. Right. There's a lot of message boards that try and get people to kill themselves. Right. You know, insecure kids come on and they're like, they bully them to kill themselves. Right. There's that sort of community online and they do it because they think it's funny. I'm not saying that these videos necessarily are a product of that. There could be just the same reason that that guy did the big foot hoax. Yeah. Get attention, get things into the zeitgeist, whatever it's, it happens every single time. And if you're not careful, if you don't look into things, you can fall for really dumb shit.

Now I'm super glad that I didn't believe it. Yeah. You had to, you had to do the second step. That's where most people stop. Right. You watch those videos and then you went and looked further. And that's where most people stop. Right. They got their primary source or what they think is their primary source. And then they were like, well, I trust them. So done. Or not even I trust them. I trust the person who shared this or I trust the person who shared the very, you know, that whole thing. Yeah. It is not ever a two step issue there. So whenever, whenever we're dealing with a lot of Alex Jones shit, ultimately that's, that's us. Like we're the second step. Hopefully. Yeah. Again, which is why we are not as popular. No. But so like, look, I,

of my own life and what I can give you, I can't prove Sandy Hook happened. I can't do that. I just can't. I can't prove almost anything in the world, but I don't have to. Right. I can tell you through a thorough examination that I've done every single piece of stuff that's like, oh, Sandy Hook is fake is bullshit. Yeah. And Alex Jones. And once again, we did land on the moon. Right. Alex Jones is being a coward, hiding behind the, I don't know. I don't know. There's good arguments on both sides. Yeah. When in reality, that's the, that's the EPA on climate change. Like, well, the science is still out. No, fuck you. The science is in. You're killing us. You are personally

responsible for the death of millions of people and that is coming in this case. Alex Jones isn't responsible for anyone's death, but he's responsible for being a huge fucking dick hole. But no, but he is responsible for the pain of so many fucking people. He very clearly when talking to that caller on January 13th of 2015 said that he doesn't, it was all actors. It was a synthetic event. He couldn't believe it at first, but then he proved it to himself. So clearly that is what he believes. Yeah. All this other stuff is window dressing. And what he's saying now is not that retraction. Nope. It is cowardice. It is pure hiding. Yep. And he's not even taking the video down. Nope. Just take it down. Fuck you, Alex. Fuck you, Alex. So he goes on from there.

After he says all this bullshit about Sandy Hook to basically where are we at? Oh yeah. Okay. So he just goes on from here to explain that he is totally real. Naturally. Which is unfortunate after we just caught you in that massive lie. They're trying to psychologically inoculate people out there that have never seen or heard the show so that they just believe that I'm an actor and don't mean what I'm saying or I'm completely insane. Both are possible at the same time. Interviewing myself. People go, are you crazy? You have both personalities? No. It's called a skit. It was about high school level. I played the part of the devil being pro-abortion. People then got freaked out and said, I even had one employee almost quit. They go, man, that was really

scary. How can you talk like that about how wonderful abortion is for Satan? And I was illustrating how it's bad by playing the part of Satan. It does not mean that I literally want to worship Satan. Do you understand? Alex, LinkedIn. LinkedIn. You should have let that guy quit so fast. That is a idiot. That is a dumb person. That's a, oh God. Huh? What? Are you really the devil? Are you really the devil? I don't understand costumes. How could you lie so convincingly? But here's what's wonderful. Is that really what you believe? Here's what's wonderful. What? Alex is not engaging with the truth even in that statement. No, absolutely not. Because he's saying that this staff member thought that he was being sincere when he dressed up like the devil

to say everyone should get abortions. Yeah. That didn't happen. It can't have happened. Oh, well, they worked it in four wars. So I rule nothing out. That's true. I rule nothing out. Anything is possible in that shop. That is true. But it's like, come on, man. Come on. You're so stupid. Now, I will, I will also not rule out your possible explanation because as we know, he makes up plenty of people who say things to him all the time. And he really wants people to think he's a great actor when he wants to be. Yeah. Like when he's in waking life and what have you. He wasn't really even acting. He advised on that. He was playing himself in both Richard Linklater movies. He was playing the advisor. No, that wasn't scanner darkly. Oh, okay. I'm sorry.

But are you sure he didn't advise on the movie that you're playing? Yeah. No, that was boyhood. Boyhood. Yeah. Waking life was the first one of the rotoscoping. Right. And one of my favorite movies. It is a good movie. Love it. Anyway, I've caught out a bunch of stuff throughout this about Alex really still hammering home that he thinks that everyone is just talking about his skits. Yeah, he does not understand. He doesn't get it at all. And so that's another one of that. But I kept that in because that was a little different. This one isn't a that one. I don't think is a deflection or a lie. That one I do genuinely think he is confused about. I agree. He's very confused. I don't think he understands that at all. You know what else he doesn't understand.

What the people who are attacking him are up to here in this next clip, he's going to explain what he thinks the world is doing to him. And it's fascinating because I cut out two parts in this episode already where he said, I'm not a victim. I'm a man. Yeah, I'm not a victim. No, this is some victim shit. No one cares when I'm showing the Journal of Medicine and WebMD. But man, I put on a lizard outfit. I talk about the impact of Florida Neurological Development Children. I get massive, massive, massive, massive, massive views. And then people get warned. So they're saying, what do we do about this guy reaching 35 million people a year ago? 45, 50, 60 million conservatively a week now. What do we do? 700 million people.

He's done some comedy pieces. Let's come out and say, look, he's an actor. He's fake. And look, he's your lawyer said that blown up quite a bit on air. So let's edit all that together and say he must be crazy. You are crazy. And then let's take everything from him. And let's take his sponsors. Good. Let's take his advertisers. Let's, let's, let's take everything he's got. And that's what they do. Is he going to fake cry? No, every major channel, every major news channel in the country has been saying for over a week and a half that I admit I'm fake and then I'm not real. Talk to your lawyer for real because they've shown close to me. That's just a clown outfit saying really scary stuff and say this man is psychotic.

So he thinks that the scariest stuff you say Alex comes when you are not wearing a clown mask. Not at all. No. So what he thinks is going on is there's this cabal of elites, these globalists that are getting together to try and take him down because he's becoming too influential. Right. Right. So what they do is like, huh, how are we going to do it? Could we use his words literally? No, like these, like these two whippers snappers over on knowledge flight too. That would be crazy. Now, see what we're going to do is we've realized that a couple of times he's dressed up in character and done sketches. So we're going to say that he's fake. But I mean, oh wait, we don't have to do that. His lawyer did it for us. Okay. Oh, wait. Oh, there's another

thing. He's gotten really angry on air a bunch of times and freaked out. Let's cut that together manipulatively and say he's crazy. Yeah. No one's doing any of that. Let's cut it together manipulatively. Let's not just show it to be fair. A lot of those meme presentations of Alex is a little bit like that. Yeah, but it's a montage. It's like Rocky training. That's a montage of the bullshit that he said. And that's not the globalists. That's people who are making memes who are pretty good at it. Yeah. It's funny. It's funny, but like, but he doesn't understand humor. So of course he thinks they're, yeah. No, cause they're, they're like, I don't understand why you'd spend your time making these memes when you could put on a lizard

mask and say shit about syringes. I don't watch any TV news. Neither do I. Has anybody, has anybody on TV other than like Stephen Colbert, other than your Colbert and your, your like, has any actual news agency? Cause that, there he's implying that the actual, like CNN has a clip of him being crazy. I don't think he rates CNN. I feel like he doesn't rate CNN. I don't know. I can't speak to that because I, I don't have like, I don't have Google alerts for Alex. I don't watch a ton of CNN. I want, you know, I don't even have a TV really, but I mean, except for playing Zelda. But like, I don't have like an awareness of that world very much because much like Alex tells people to don't trust the mainstream. I don't put a ton of that into

my brain. I look for sources and I have some aggregators that I trust and I seek out news usually in the written form. So that's mostly where I'm at. I don't know. I will say I don't believe legitimate news delivered to me. Uh, or I seek out news not delivered to me by a pretty face. All of my, that's my advice to people. I think there's a pretty face giving you that news. Maybe don't trust it. That's why you can't trust Paul Joseph Watson or Leanne McAdoo. Definitely not very attractive, but you can marry him both. I could. I'm a bigamist. No, I'm not. I'm not guys. Don't take that out of context. CNN. I do think I do think, uh, that places like the Washington Post and probably CNN online have had articles about the fact that his

lawyer has said that he's a performance artist. It's throughout. It's in the zeitgeist. And then I think in response to that, people have made memes of him dressed up as the Joker and stuff to mock him. But it's not people saying it's, it's, it's so stupid that it's hard to explain. Do you know what I mean? Like it, cause it's, it's something so stupid that it hits you and your brain just kind of shuts off and goes like, nah, he's a character performance artist defense in terms of dressing up in a lizard mask and all that stuff. Isn't necessary in court. Like that wouldn't stop him from having custody of his children. The defense of, he's a character is needed for the violent outbursts that he has. That's where he needs that defense. Yes. The comedy sketches that

he make that aren't funny. Uh, those, he does not need an excuse for making those. Any right thinking person gets what he's doing. Yeah. I don't even want to talk about this anymore. I don't know how you do it. I don't know. I, I'm just going to repeat the same stuff I've said in the episode. It immediately reminded me of Dana Gold's bet about, uh, him, him talking to his dad with his wife there and his dad's like, yeah, of course it's hot in LA, bunch of queers out there. And his wife looking at him going like, aren't you going to say something? Aren't you going to do something? What do I say? He thinks gay people give off heat. What do you argue that? Gays are caliente. Take that out of context. But like, yeah, I agree. And, and to a certain extent,

this argument is so dumb that my brain just doesn't want to talk about it anymore. There's nothing. So from this episode, from this episode onward, we will not be dealing with, and Alex will be continuing to say it, but we will not be dealing anymore with him and his weird performance art defense. He is, he is a performance artist. Even if he doesn't know he's a performance artist, even if he does know he's a performance artist, he's a fucking lunatic. All propagandists wear masks and the mask is also their real face. It's very complicated. I don't want to tip my hand too hard. Alex does quote Shakespeare. Oh, thank God, which is going to be Islamophobia and Shakespeare quotes are going to be our new segment. How is that? What do you say? I like that he does quote

Will Shakespeare, but he doesn't understand that. No, everybody plagiarized the New Yorker. It's the most plagiarized story, just like I'm plagiarizing Will Shakespeare. Also, I mean, we don't have time to get into it, but William Shakespeare might not have been a person. It might have been a persona. It might have, it might have been a performance artist in some ways. Although I, I will say, I think you're wrong. Isn't it Christopher Marlowe? It is not. It is Will Shakespeare. He is a guy. True thing. He's got a weird old head. He does have a weird old head. Anyway, this next clip, we're going to get back to Sandy Hook for a couple clips, which is ostensibly the reason we're here, but I guess it's not.

This is Alex claiming that the mainstream media lies about his position on Sandy Hook, and he is in and of himself. Which we have already established is he does not believe it's real. And he doesn't believe that what he's said in the past is real. Right. So we're on two layers of Alex Jones does not believe it is real. It's like a beef Wellington of lies. And you've got the mainstream media saying in thousands of articles that I believe nobody died. 10,000 articles. And then I see tweets from Overman and tweets from everybody else saying he goes and harasses families. He sues families. He gets in their faces. He says their kids didn't die. I've never been to

Newtown. I've never gotten their faces. I've said I believe kids died, but then I've said I see devil's advocate when we've done debates that no kids died and then it's all made up because the media has been caught making things up. We've had debates where I said both sides and they cut it. Knowing that you can go watch the full deals. I did. We can. We just played it. Don't tell people that. We just played it, Alex. You're not good at this. No. And how are you so rich? That's crazy. You know, it's probably because of like the Mercer's or something like that, but be that as it may. What he's saying there is so stupid. I don't know if Keith Overman has ever tweeted something like that at him. I have no idea. I don't care. Who cares? But the idea

that like people say that I harass these families and I get in their face and I sue them. I don't have never heard anyone claim he's sued their families. Never heard anybody say that. But I do know that his actions have hurt people. And his listeners have gotten into these people's faces. Absolutely. His listeners have absolutely harassed these people, have ruined their lives in so many different ways. They put them through a fresh fucking hell every goddamn morning. And this is an instance where he's responsible for the actions of his listeners. Like you can't really control what your listeners do to some extent. You know, like you're not fully responsible for their actions, but when Salinger isn't fully responsible for every pocket or every pocket

filled with catcher in the rye and the serial killer or whatever. Right. Right. But when you espouse a position as Alex clearly did in that clip we played that there was a fake operation, the conclusion that you can take from that is like, okay, if it is fake and no one died, then these people who are pretending to have had children die there are in on it. Yeah. Absolutely. I'm going to keep badgering them until they admit their role in this. And Alex is complicit. He's absolutely. He's 100% responsible for the actions of his listeners. Not 100% because there's other dickhole pundits who have made these arguments. Yeah. So yeah, fuck off, Alex. Fuck off. Like you're, you're saying that you never sued them and you've never been to new

town doesn't mean anything. Fuck you. Yeah, I've never been to new town. So I'm off the hook free and clear. Guess what? We got another lie about Sandy Hook coming up. It should be investigated. All I'm saying is you should investigate what really happened. Most fake mass shootings, they have shooters and then kill a patsy. We know that's happened before. They've been caught before. False flags, a household name. I tend to believe that's what happened. But real mass shootings happen. I'm not saying real kids didn't die. We've entertained the idea because a majority of people online double in the official story. Fuck you. Because they've been lied to so much and seen our government launch wars that kill millions on lies. So they killed 20 something kids.

So I mean, that's a whole new, that's a whole new version of a Sandy Hook lie about his position. He was saying earlier that he doesn't know he can't figure it out. Now in this clip, he's saying I'm inclined to believe that there was a patsy that got killed and there was a shooting. Fake mass shootings. Yep. And two, two, what, what fake mass shooting two years ago, he said that no one died. It was complete actor based operation and no real new information has come out in those two years. Can you point me to one fake mass shooting? I can't, but I mean, Alex could show you plenty. There's no way there's a fake mass shooting. Well, Alex could show you plenty based on what he thinks, but I don't, I don't, I can't think of any. I don't know. That's

again, again, the moment, the moment you pull that Boston bombing, the moment you pull that shit. Now there, you're just putting the seed of doubt and disbelief over anything that happens. Any possible circumstance is absolutely fake. Yep. Like that's, that's insane to me. Well, and it's basically like, because the argument goes like this, it's these, the globalists are doing this basically to push gun control. That I mean, that's the large, they're doing a shitty job of it. Totally. But that's like, that's sort of one of the big narratives of it, or the big ideas is that like they want to get gun control. So they do these, these staged shootings to turn people against guns. Like, well, it didn't work. So why would they do it again? I guess. Yeah. What, what

kind of, what, but, but, but, but hold on, hold on, hold on. So like, yeah, okay. While you're very angry, while you're very angry, while you're blaming the globalists, what you're actually doing is repeating a warmed over and dressed up anti-semitism. So what you're doing is blaming the Jews for all this stuff. So I mean, it's, it's not the clearest line to draw, but trust me, that is what's going on. Subconsciously, it is all going back to this idea of a global cabal of bankers and Jewish elites who are controlling our destiny and trying to degrade society. So it's weird how much of a bandwagon anti-semitism has garnered. It's thrilling. It is a lot. Thrilling is the wrong word. Thrilling is super the wrong word. Well, learning about it is kind

of thrilling. It is. That's what, that's kind of what I meant. How fun. Like, how long are we going to hate the Jews? I don't know, man. Like pick somebody else. It's been a long time. Like, even with this Islamophobia thing, there's still a heart of anti-semitism in it. It kind of is. A lot of it does go back to the feelings about Israel. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, why do we even, why, that whole thing, that whole thing, how many years, how many, how many years are we going to do this? I don't know. Probably like three more guys. We're coming to the end of it. Hey, to, to everybody in the Middle East. Come on guys. Hey, that's a, that's also a new segment around her show. Come on. For all the people committing atrocities out there. Hey, knock it off.

Come on. Quit it. I'll box your ears. Come on. So go get me a switch. As, as I mentioned earlier, Alex was really trying to make the point that he's not a victim, although he's perpetrating. Incredible victim. Man can't be victims. And his next clip, even though he's beset on all side by people and this next clip, he's explains that he is under massive attack. You might, he might as well be tricky. He's in so much massive attack. Very nice. Thank you. All right. I'll give you that one. Does that make up for my love of Lana Del Rey? All I'm saying is that radiation is rule in the nation. Fine. That's what I'm saying. Right. So we're in Heligoland is what's going on right now. Nope. I'm out. Oh, you're done. I don't, I don't know enough references,

but I do know, I do know about tricky protection. No, nothing. Calm down. All right. I'm sorry. This next clip, Alex explains that he's under attack and it's all about his character, but he's not talking about the fictional character thing. It's about his integrity character and he's dumb. Understand that and understand there is a hit out on info wars to assassinate my character by lying and creating a, a, a artificial Alex Jones, a straw man that is not me, that is an imposter to go out there and misrepresent what's happening and what's going on and what's unfolding. And they think you're incredibly stupid. Well, he might not be wrong there. Alex,

you think your audience is fucking stupid, but you are stupid. It's, it's, it's crazy. It's just crazy. I don't like you better wish someone was making a straw man. Like you, you are protected by a straw man. Yeah. Like the straw man that people are creating is a better person than you. It really is. The guy who just says that Sandy Hook is fake is a better person than the Alex that we're looking at right now. That person at least has consistency, isn't a coward. I mean, still or at the very least is only wrong about one thing. It's only a monster on one thing as opposed to being a fucking absolute, like, oh, his, his level of like what, what I keep hearing in his voice is pure nihilism. Like he, his is what you're hearing.

His is the destruction of everything. Like that's like that, that quote on that quote by Steve Bannon about, uh, you know, like destroying the, destroying the government entirely. Yeah, like to, to me listening to all of this stuff, it's almost like his main goal is to destroy any and all objective truth, like to money, the Second Amendment. Fuck the Second Amendment. That's all we need. Fuck the Second Amendment. We don't need roads or Texas. Just don't have guns. It's great. Listen, I wish Obama had gone into your homes and taken your guns. I just want to first off, you want to live in the world of American. Sure. I'm fine with it. Let's give that one a go. Let's just give it a try. See if it's possibly better. Here's the other thing. I, you

know, as much as, as much as people like to, like Alex Jones want to say it's going to be 1776 all over again, and we're going to do this whole thing. Those are often the same cowards that Alex Jones is. Yeah. They're living in that fantasy world of, uh, believing themselves to be that when push comes to shove, I'm really going to do it. I'm really going to do that. We better hope that we're right on that assumption. Dude, look, I'm a manic depressive. Uh-huh. If you're going to kill me, like, okay. And if, like, you got me on this one. Legitimately. Like you and I aren't too far. Like we don't necessarily disagree. If you murder me, there's a part of me that's on your side. It's like a good, a good point there. Yeah, exactly. Free speech. Yeah. Hey man, you

know, you got to do it. Uh, the other, the other part too is that like if the shit goes down, we wouldn't maybe kill ourselves. We might take care of it for you. Oh, absolutely. All the, all the visions of like zombie apocalypse, like, oh man, I would be the guy running that game. Fuck that. No, I'm out. Nope. Fuck that. If I could become a hermit in the woods, I'll do that. Yeah. But if not, I'm out. Listen, I don't want to fight. I'd run out of contacts. I'm done. Or if I don't get your meds. Yeah, exactly. Although maybe then I would be the leader of a roving band of cannibals. That's a possibility. That's an entirely possible thing. So Jordan, at this point, we have to, we have to deal with Alex having a little bit of a break.

He had a little bit of a mental break. Uh, and he is no longer talking about Sandy Hook. All right. He is now getting into for the rest of the episode. How much more, how much time are we talking? We have five more clips. Yes, five more clips. And it's all a treatise on the degradation of society, basically. Great. And he gets it not in his first clip, but he will get to what he believes is going on and has to do with, we don't, we don't have the rights of passage anymore. And that's, uh, you know, we can, we can talk all day about that if you want. Hey, let's, all I'm saying is let's go back to a tribal society where men have at the age of 13, some sort of rite of passage. Dude. And then we're good. Dude, that is literally what he's going to

say. That can't be what he's going to say. That's a dumb thing to say. We need to, well, he doesn't say this, but it would be great if he was like, we need to, when you get to be about 13, we need to lay you down and make you take the cut from a hundred nines. Yeah, exactly. Like what, put your hand to a nest of bullet ants. That's how you become a man in this country. Quit coding software and making your apps. Get rid of one hand with bullet ants. Well, he doesn't, he doesn't go to that extent of rights of passage, but you'll love where he does go. But first he got classical music, like the rights of spring. I'm assuming that he does the, you know, like that. You shouldn't make predictions. Beautiful. You shouldn't make predictions

because it's sweeping string sections. It's so much more simple than you think. It's so stupid. When you get to just that swell of the violins and the violas, I think, let's go back to tribal society and stick our hands in bullet ants. Well, you're talking about the arts. And that's one thing. But Alex, I think, is a little bit more worried about STEM education, as he complains about here. We need to go back to being human. Our calculator is great. Yes. But nobody since Texas Instruments came out with 140 years ago knows how to do math anymore. What the f**k are you talking about? I know how to do a lot of math. What in God? We're still f**king math is everywhere. It is. It's all there. Yeah. I had, I had graphing calculators when I was in school,

and I still know how to do math. Now, even though I haven't touched math in years, prove it. I could. I absolutely could prove it. I can still do geography. Divide 96 by seven. I can't do that. See? Well, not in my head. See? Get a calculator. Huh? Not since Texas Instruments has somebody been able to do math. Actually, I can do that. 96 divided by seven is, I don't know what the decimal would be, but it's 12.2 or something like that. 12.2. Something along those lines. I don't matter. When I was in school, when I was in school, we had calculators, and I was actually very interested in math. And so one day we were talking about the Pythagorean theorem.

Yes. And the quadratic equation. Yeah. And it was very. D squared plus C squared equals what? Well, that's, that's the quad, it's a Pythagorean. Oh, I thought that was a, a. The quadratic is like negative 4B plus or minus the square root of, no, I don't remember it. I don't remember it now. Yeah. But I actually proved that each of those equations worked, breaking it down variable by variable. Yeah. Because I was interested in how it all worked. I had calculators. I still did it because I was interested. There's a couple of. And I'm not even like an in-depth math guy. There's a couple of really great like video explanations of how Pythagoras didn't think

of that theorem. The way that we do is just like a building block of geometry and trigonometry and the like. He thought of it as a whole religious concept. And so there's this really amazing confluence of how you see the world within how you find out all of these different equations back before you had fucking a squared plus B squared equals C squared. Sure. Like he didn't get that for him. It was look at how all of these squares fit together. Like that whole thing, like literal a square, you know, and then you keep tearing that apart and tearing that apart. And then you believe in God, I guess. I don't know. Well, in the lineage of that traces directly to like the golden ratio and the spiral of life and that sort of thing. Absolutely.

It all comes out of Pythagoras moving forward through time. Absolutely. And there's a great song by a rapper group called the Lost Children of Babylon called the Pythagorean Theorem where they just rap about the Pythagorean Theorem and it's fucking awesome. Yeah. It's a rap song about math. It's fucking great. These dudes are so cool. I don't support everything they're into, but they're cool. They're Egyptian mystics. Anyway, this next clip, Alex is going to really freak out because he remembered that one of his big points he likes to try and make is that no one has a memory and that everything in the world is super important. The only thing that's super important when you're going through life is having a memory. That seems like he might be right, considering the

fact that he doesn't remember the things that he says. Exactly. And in this clip, he has forgotten something that I will explain. I will explain afterwards. Fucking course. Please enjoy listening to this and I'll be back with a really salient point. Everything is memory. Everything is remembering. Space time continuum. What happened five years ago? That's experience. That's knowledge. If you, let me explain something. Explain. There's information. There's knowledge. Only should be able to graph here. Okay. Here's information. Graph. Okay. We're five years old. Okay. You can interface the internet. You can speak. You can do basic things, but you don't know from live experience how to trust the info, whether it's accurate or not.

True. You don't have the time or the memory of when you're 75. Oops. You know what he forgot. That there's four ways to learn. He forgot that he's claimed that he was reading college level books at age six when he had just said there at age five, which I don't think there's developed to leave that much difference between five and six. He's discounting himself. But he's saying that when you're that age, when you're that young, you don't know how to trust information. You don't know how to engage with the facts. And hey, Alex, you don't either. You dumb piece of shit. You dumb, dumb asshole. You stupid son of a bitch. You just busted yourself. I don't even need to knock on the door. You just busted your dumb ass self. Now, hold on. What's great.

You asked me in the middle of that clip, is there a graph? I'll post a screenshot of this because it's fucking hilarious. There is a graph. He has taken a piece of paper, one of his info wars stories that's printed out that he uses to make arguments and he has flipped it over to the back and he has drawn a stick figure on it that says five. And then there is wait, he drew a stick. He doesn't even understand the XY axis. No, no, stick figure five. He draws a line going upwards at a, you know, it's like a hypotenuse, right? And it goes up and then he draws another stick figure and it says 75. That's the graph. That's the graph. So he's, he's successfully graft aging. You should use a Texas Instruments

graphing calculator. I don't think you can just put five years old and 75 years old into a Texas Instrument graphing calculator. You could just draw a fucking diagonal line. You can fucking play Pokemon on a graphing calculator, but you can't do that. Or you could have old timey pornography on there as I recall. I remember some, one of my friends had a, had some titties on his graphing calculator. It was a scandal. Did he turn it upside down and write boobs? We also did that back in the early days. Before you could just Google boobs. Alex, it's not a graph. You're making a dumb point, but I mean, it isn't a dumb point. It is one of the most, I mean, it's just a truism. When you're young, you can't really understand how to use

information because you don't have the experience and the maturity that comes with being older. But unfortunately, it's also, it's also a dumb point on that front also because that, that idea of, well, let's just say, if you were going to go by who is best at evaluating information at 2017, do you think old people are at your top at the top of that list? 75 year olds. No, no, no, it's probably somewhere in the middle of adulthood. Yeah, probably late 20s, late 20s to early 40s. Probably a little bit under 40s. I know some 40s. I know some 40 old people who are pretty hip. No, I, that, that concept of experience equaling wisdom is fucking stupid. And it is so stupid. If you've ever talked to somebody who said,

don't tell me about the sixties or whatever, because I live through it. And it's like, listen, you don't know what's going on right now. Don't tell me you knew what was going on then when you were a fucking idiot. Well, experience informing awareness and that sort of thing is generally true, but it's like anything. It's like, it's not always true. There's exceptions. You know, it's, it's only true to a point. So I agree and disagree with you. And I agree and disagree with Alex's stupid point, but more, more disagree with Alex's stupid point entirely. Fine. 100%. We can agree to disagree. That's totally fine. Not in my world. Let me write down a graph for you. I'm drawing a small stick figure and it looks like Dan. And I am going to write Dan on

it. Should we screenshot this for the internet too? Then I am going to draw a vertical line, not a, not a diagonal line, vertical straight up. Oh my God. No slope. That's Alex. And then all the way down here is me giggling at both of them. Would you like to draw another line to the side of William Shakespeare over there? Because it's time for the Shakespeare quote of the day. I remember him saying that all the world's a graph. I do remember that just to give some context in the corner of his paper. He has drawn basically a triangle without a bottom. So there's just a, just a, you know, up, down, like a parabola, a parabola that comes to a point basically. And he has drawn stick figures at each

point. The heads are at the like two bases of the triangle and up at the top. And he's making the argument that you are just doodling. Well, he's basically saying he's also got Metallica. That weird s that we always, yeah, the fucking s. Yeah. So he's trying to make the argument that when you're young and when you're old, you're down, like you're, you, you're not as smart. And when you're in the middle of your, your life, you're at your peak. And then he brings Shakespeare into it. You start out with low cognitive ability. You go to a peak of training experiences, life revelations, you hit a peak, and then your brain cells begin to die.

You begin to do less unless you begin to become the child again. Once the man, that's William Shakespeare, twice the child. You're only once the man. Three times a lady. Once bitten. Twice shy. Great. Cool, Alex. Cool, cool, cool. Love it. Thanks, Alex. Love it. Love it for your trite points. Do you think, like, he seems to know a lot more Shakespeare than I would have expected him to know. But yeah, but these are all like generally known quotes. You know, that one, that one is far more obscure than all the worlds of stage. Yeah, but I will give him that. I would, I would argue, I would argue that that is

60 to 70% of the population is unaware of that quote. It's possible. That's, that's the one that I would say, like the, all the worlds of stage, even if you can't attribute it to Shakespeare, you know, you, you have a general idea of that. Like you're, if you heard that from somebody in a bar, you wouldn't be like, holy shit, dude, you are a genius. Well, like here's what I would say. I don't think that Alex does any researching or is engaged with substance now, but I'm not saying that he hasn't always been that way. I believe he did do a lot of reading earlier. I mean, seems like it. He's not an idiot. He's a dumb ass, but he's not an idiot. Like he knows some things. We need, we need a lot of,

we need to, we need a glossary of our particular definitions of the insults that we have slugged at him. He knows, he knows, because many times I have called him an idiot and a literary and a dumbass and incapable of reading. So there's plenty of different shades of Alex being a moron. He's not incapable of reading. He's incapable of integrating facts that he has learned into a coherent system and treating facts. He's incapable of synthesis and context. So that is what's the issue. He's read a ton of stuff and it's easy to have quotes. It's easy to have these quotes. Super easy to have quotes. He knows these things, but he doesn't really know how to make them mean anything. Right. Anyway, as the Bible said, even the devil can quote strip, strip, strip, strip,

strip, strip, strip, strip, strip. I've teased this. I know the end. I know. I've been very excited the entire time. This is the end. My friend. And I, it's, I don't even know how to describe this, but he starts ranting about the rights of passage. Yes. And then tells a story from his life that we're going to get into. And I, I don't even care. I don't even give a fuck. Here we go. Here it is in life coming up. But if you don't have memory, if you don't train yourself to have a long attention span, that's the best part of life seven long deep attention span. If you don't do that, you're transient, you don't care. You're, you're not involved. You don't develop the neural pathways in your entire life. This is a five year old, on average, by the time it wasn't just Jews

in most European cultures and others, even in China, it's the same. At 13 years of age, they would normally do a cultural test to see if you were a man and then pass you into manhood or womanhood the next year, the next year was like school that was done by the local priests, the shaman, the tribal leaders. Depending on the culture at 12, 13 or 14, you would, you would go through testing and through rituals of hunting, of science, of different tests by the different elders to see if you were an adult yet. When you were, when they said you were an adult, then you could decide to leave your parents house, leave somewhere else, do something else, go join an uncle and another,

you know, tribe 100 miles away, whatever, or you could get married, stay in the tribe, whatever you wanted, or wait. But you had to decide if you're going to be a man or a woman and leave or stay. Now, normally at the time you had about 16, you were always kicked out, unless you had special needs. Interesting. What the fuck is he talking about? Well, I wanted to lay that out as a groundwork, his idea of the rights of passage. And to be fair, in some cultures, he's not far off. There's not like, no, I mean, I, I get what he's saying. And I get that he's making an overgeneralization of the, what he's done is explain what the entire world knows to be the historical rights of passage. Yes. Yes. Now he's spread it out over way too long.

Now, I wanted to say that, like that, that's, that's okay. That clip, I don't have a whole ton to attack. No, there's, like you said, fine, fine. If that's, if fine, if that's where you're starting, fine. Now, let's see where he goes with it. Let's find out in this next clip. I'm very rarely at a loss for words. I'm so thrilled. I'm so thrilled. I'm tickled. Now you're using thrilled correctly. Please don't yell over this. Now you're thrilled with fire. You need to, we need, people need to. Mike down. Ladies and gentlemen, they're telling people now that 35 is the new adult. 35 is the peak in physical and mental overall prowess. You then gain knowledge up to this level, but, but, but by then at 35, you are at your peak. Women and men, you are

at your peak, peak, peak, peak, peak, peak, peak. But if they arrest your development, and most men I know, our crew is not like this because that's who gravitated towards this. I'm not bragging. It's true. Most men at 35 act like they're 16. They still want to hang out mainly with men. They want to get the approval of men. They act like boys. They were sports jerseys. They want to play. They want to party all day. They're not serious minded. And most of them at 35, what do they not have? They don't have children. So that's stupid. They don't have children. Right. That's not their peak, peak, peak, peak, peak, peak, peak, peak, peak, peak, peak, peak, peak, peak, peak, peak, peak. Now, that's not what I was thrilled about.

A little bit louder. No, I wanted to take a tiny break. No, I'm sorry. I just want to take a little bit of a break to point out like you're dumb. You're dumb. You're real dumb. This is stupid. Where is it? What is what is he talking about? He's mad because people don't have kids when they're younger, I guess. Right. So he's going back to that 1950s world of like, you got a job and you had kids and you fucking did it and it didn't matter if you liked it or if you liked your life or anything like that. You fucking had kids and you hated everybody and that's how we're supposed to live. It doesn't matter if having those kids would ruin your life and you don't want to have them. Or if, you know, you weren't able to take care of them. Now, he's going to

get into some really, really unfortunate uses of language in this next section. I feel like him talking about people having kids is not a good idea at this point in time. So, oh, I mean, it is what's on his mind. I couldn't imagine why. So tell me any other circumstance where kids would be involved in his life right now. So here, he's going to say some more stuff about people failing to reach these rights of passage, such as having a kid. And then he's going to get into his own life. And it is defensive. And one of the things he says, we're going to have to stop and talk about for maybe half an hour. Because it's straight up. Okay. It's straight up the best thing I've ever heard in my life. Okay. All right. There we go. You're supposed to have children by 16 in every

culture biologically. Nope. If you're not having them by 16, there's something wrong with you. Definitely not. Oh, but see, there's college, the priesthood you've got to get into. And then by then, oh, you got to make money because you're in debt. Oh, don't have time for kids. It's all they wrote books about the 20s. How they do this don't have time for kids. You're trying to get out of debt. Oh, you're 40. You're finally halfway out of debt. Oh, you want to have some fun now? Oh, you try to find a woman. Oh, she's barren. I had to pause there just because that's so horrible. That's so fucking horrible. So I so so what's his but why is he saying these things, Dan? Because he's so dumb. What does any of this mean? He's angry. So, so this is about Sandy Hook.

This video is supposed to be about Sandy Hook. I forgot. Jesus Christ. Is this the new information on Sandy Hook? Women in their 40s are barren. That's how we know those kids weren't real. That's how we know it. Yeah. Because everybody knows women are barren now. You just we live in a better argument than we live in children of men. This is the fact. Yes. Great. Wow. Wow. So disgusting. Wow. 16 years is when every culture, one that that prepos, that presupposes that cultures not allowed to change ever or at all. Also, according to our culture in many states, that would be illegal. That would be illegal. But hopefully in more states even beyond that. So I want, he's going to talk about when he had his first kid.

And I want to, I want to remind everyone that it's not 16. He says that he had his first kid at 24. So even by his own recollection, he has failed. Something's wrong with him. Well, he's not perfect. No, he's not perfect. So he's just, he's just telling you how you're supposed to live. He's not a great man. No, this isn't about him. We've been over this. He fails all the time. This isn't about him. No, he just tells you the right things to do. He doesn't do them themselves. Yeah. Because I say don't do as I do. God damn hypocrite. So we're going to let the rest of this play. No talking over the rest of this. I know I said that already, but here this is where he transitions. You keep winding me up. I'm telling me not to do something and then winding me up,

knowing full well. This is where he transitions into his own life and it's a nice entry into his biography. All right. All right. She's doing the same thing. By the time you figure out you want to live, by the time you hit 16 at 40 and give me the big knowledge here folks at 40 on average, then they did this by design. You are now the equivalent of a 16 year old. When I was 16, I didn't want to party anymore. I didn't want to play games anymore. I grew up. I'd already been in the fights, all the big rituals. I'd already had probably, I hate to brag, so I'm not bragging. It's actually shameful. Probably 150 women or more. That's conservative. I had over 150 women. I'd already been in fights with full grown men. I was already dating college girls by the time I

was 15 years old. I was already a man at 16 at 21. I was a leader. So he's going to say more about his history there, but let's take a second. He didn't have sex with 150 women by the time we were 16. There's no fucking way. How old is he now? 43, I think. He has not met 150 women. He's talked to Leanne McAdoo 150 times. That counts. But like also real talk, if you're a 15 year old and you're having sex with college girls, you're being statutorily raped. But be that as it may, who cares? That's not, that's, that's, so his version of the right to passage that he's complaining about that people aren't going through are being in fights and banging. Yeah, that's his rights of passage. I fucked a lot when I was young and I got a lot of fights. I don't

understand what your, what your quibble with this is right here. My quibble is the perfect sense. This is the definition of toxic masculinity. This is the definition of ugly male horrible. There are only two ways to judge a man, whether or not he can win a fight fighting and fucking and how much does he fuck? Yeah, absolutely. That's the only way. What a dick. What a fucking dick. Hey, look, these kids now, not fucking everybody when they're 16. No. Because he'd already gotten that out of his way. 150 conservative conservative, conservative 150 women. Now, if we apply that ratio right to the same as he describes his listenership, right? So he insists it's 45 million a week. Yeah. And we put it somewhere around 300,000. Well, in terms of, we'll go

to his website. Yeah. Right. Two to 300,000. Right. All right. So we apply that. So what's, so that would be roughly, that would be roughly half a percent. He's speaking in weeks and I'm speaking in days. So it's actually closer to like 1.4 million visits to the website a week. So he's in the like 10 times higher. No, more than that. 40 times higher, 40 times higher. So 150 divided by 40. There's a math is like three. That puts us at round, round four women, but like he slept with round about four women. That's still a lot. That's 16. Probably too many at 60. But let's, let's engage with the idea that at 16, he's had sex with 150 different women conservatively. So if, let's say it is hold on, hold on. Now here's,

okay. You've, you've finished your thing and I got an idea. I got an idea. I get really excited because I got an idea. You generally reach sexual maturity at like what 13 or so, you know, give or take. That's when we're supposed to procreate according to the rules of evolution and everything after that. Fuck it. So you get, you get your pubes at about 13 and let's say you're immediately successful starting to have sex with women. Right. 150 in three years. It's 50 a year. That's about one a week. He's having sex with a different woman every week for three years. Yeah. In the time when you, in 15, you're a sophomore in high school. Right. Through all through high school. He's banging a new lady every week. Yeah. In Austin. Yeah. All right. Fair enough. See,

cheerleaders, bad girls, punk rockers, rockers. Doesn't matter. He's really in the last couple episodes going on. I like, I fucked a lot when I was young. Yeah. Why is it? It's gross. That is super gross. Now you had a point theory. I like theories. Fucked 150 women in one night in, in he just went to the craziest orgy. So, so that could be a right of passage. We're assuming one night we're assuming he spent a week in Japan. I don't know. There could be some seedy underground Austin sex club. Listen, there could be video. I don't know. That's the compromise. Who knows? But all right. It's left with 150 women. Sure. Would syphilis explain his behaviors. I think he would be dead by now though. 30 years later. Modern treatment. Yeah. I mean,

if it eroded his brain in a developmental phase, it is possible that that part of his brain wouldn't grow back. Yeah. You heard it here. I'm no scientist, so I can't vouch for this. You heard it here. Alex Jones has syphilis. You gotta assume he wasn't wrapping it up with everybody. You know, you're young. You're stupid. You know, honestly, if Alex Jones has used a condom, he did it under duress with a gun to his head. Well, second amendment. Yeah, I'm also he supported that. He was like, Hey, listen, I don't normally use a condom, but I do respect the way you're going about it. So here is the rest of his rant about it. So the last one he said was like, 150. Why would you even fucking lie about that? It's absurd. You could have said 10 and that's

amazing if you're 16. It's absurd and it's irrelevant to the points he's trying to make. No, that's just pure bullshittery bragging. Yep. It's madness. It's mad. And as I pointed out, when we were yelling at each other, when we were yelling at each other, what I pointed out, and I want to say again, in the clarity of us not yelling at each other, the idea that masculinity equals fighting and having sex with lots of women, those are what make you a man. The rights of passage that bring you there are part of the big problem with our society with humanity. Yeah. And men are hurt by it as much women more, but men are also hurt by that. So the entire rate, the entire human race is hurt by the fact that we're, I mean, we're like, this is something

that I do not appreciate and is not an excuse, but it is the fact that a lot of the times we forget that we are apes. Sure. We're not, we're not some hyper evolved anything. We're still fucking apes. That's what we are. We're still beholden to our roots despite our great intelligence. Yeah, it's not, it's not as though we can aspire for greatness, but our legs are tethered to the earth as it were. Yeah. The, you know, we should be all be able to detach ourselves from this, but the world of do is a world of do. Sure. And yet, and yet. The world of Rob do. All right. So that's our new NBC sitcom from the 90s. Oh, I'd love it. Get Jonathan Silverman in it. The secret life of Rob do. That's a good one. That's Nickelodeon. So this next,

as it plays out the rest of this clip, like he said, at 21, he was a leader because he had a radio show, a local radio show in Austin at 21. Yeah. Oh, good for him. And here are the rest of his brags at 21. I had a radio show on the biggest stations in town. And by 22, I had top ratings. No, you didn't by 23. I was syndicated by 24. I had my son at 24. I had a son. I had a beginnings of a media empire. I was reaching millions of people and everybody couldn't believe it. Yeah, we can't believe it. But also like, I don't, that's not Rex, his son who's like 12, who works for Info Wars. So there's got to be another

older son. He might have more than four kids. He wait. He might have more kids than he has even claimed the secret number of kids. I don't know what's going on now. Now, because I must have a 19 year old son. He has paid for abortions in the past. So maybe, maybe that was his long pause where he was like, at 24, I had a son. Oh, wait, I didn't pause. Although the paying for multiple abortions doesn't make sense if you're banging out 150 girls. That is true. I mean, he's probably banged a lot more girls than anybody would appreciate, especially those women. Yeah, no kidding. But also like, I mean, his dad had to pay out that lawsuit whenever he put that guy in a coma that he beat up. So I assume that maybe his dad with

his CIA dentist practice had to pay out a lot of abortions. Alex didn't pay for them himself, I imagine, if it was during this period where he's saying he was massively sexually active and feels terrible about it. We're not, we're not judging being sexually active. No, we're judging lying about it like a fucking 12 year old. And we're judging the sort of mentality about it. Especially that mentality of because that's that's a notch in your belt bullshit. That's what that is all over the place. That's I had sex with 150 women. I didn't care about them. I didn't care about anybody but me. I cared about numbers. Even if it isn't like just about the sex part of it, even if it is about that being a right of passage or whatever, it's still bad. I but also it can't

be a right of passage if you're doing it that much. It's a compulsion. He doesn't enjoy sex. I don't know if that's true based on things I've heard. That's possible. But all that's gossip and salacious and it's not, not for our show. So yeah, that's, I mean, he just goes out yelling more about this. I cut the rest of it as he goes out because he just, I mean, he yells more about how he's real. The weird thing about that is that it does have a like looking back on my career, like this is your life kind of element of it. Like, and the end of that is nearing, you know, like when I was 21, I got this and oh God, I'm not going to have a job in six months. Somebody please, I did so much work. There's a feeling of like, where did I go wrong?

Yeah, right? Maybe everywhere. But he's, he's like that kind of argument has a feel of like, I think I did everything right. Well, you know what, I'll, I'll, I'll bring myself into it a tiny bit. There is a little bit of that mentality that I can definitely relate to in terms of like stuff I did in stand up. And I knew even when I had those feelings, and especially even more now that I'm a little bit detached from it, that they were petty and they were based in ego. Absolutely. These things of like, when I first started stand up, I created a successful show in Columbia, Missouri, it was well attended every week on a Tuesday, got hundreds and hundreds of dollars for the bar were packed out every week. Now that sort of thing, when I'm trying to make an argument for

why don't more people care about what I do. Yeah. And that is just petty ego shit. Yeah. And I'm, I regret that I was caught up in it. But I, I knew even when I was making those arguments, I'm like, I know I'm wrong to feel this way, but I don't exactly know why. And now I can see very clearly. Absolutely. It's insecurity. It's, it's a feeling of not being valued to the same level that you value what you do. Right. And it's natural, but it is embarrassing to see out of someone who's a propagandist who makes millions of dollars a year selling bone juice. Right. It's super embarrassing. The weird thing about that, it's also super embarrassing to come in the same episode where you're denying your own statements about Sandy Hook in order to demonize

the media. So like, we're talking about Sandy Hook. Yeah, it's insane. It is, it is like the thing I think about that, that whole ego nonsense is especially when it comes to stand up, which of course is the arena that we're most familiar with experiencing ego in. Right. A lot of it. There is a certain amount of that where ego is a tool that will keep you going. And you can't, you can't think you suck if you want to get people to like you. Right. Well, and then there's, there is that, you know, narcissists like Alex Jones, regardless of whether or not he's a pathological narcissist, he is a fucking narcissist. Big old one. Right. It is always about him. Yeah. And that narcissism has served him. That's really,

that's really one of the traits that has served him well on his assent to millions of dollars. Sure. So there's a certain amount of that ego where you think this is a bad, this is a cancerous tool. It's, it's a, it's a double-edged sword is what it is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It can be used to help you. Like there's a reason that whenever, uh, who was it, John, John Ronson and the psychopath test, there's a reason that when you tested out CEO CEOs are far more likely to be psychopaths than the general population. Well, it's like, because if you don't give a fuck about anybody else, you're probably going to be more willing to do all the shit to get you into places of power. And in many ways, you don't even give a shit about yourself because you're taking such

high risks with your own reputation, with your own, you know, that sort of thing. It can, it's like gambling. It can pay off. It seems unwise, but sometimes you hit the jackpot and then you turn into Alex Jones. But then if you roll the dice again, you might lose it all. And I think that's what he might be doing. And that's, that might be where we're going. Well, but the other thing he had, he had a long streak and now he's hitting craps. Yeah. The other thing in what you were talking about that came up in my mind is the idea of like a weapon that you use that's productive that will kill you. There are a lot of parasites that actually guns. Well, sure. There are also parasites that you can have that are advantageous for a while. And then they

end up hurting you. Right. Like if you like the worms from Futurama. Well, even in reality, I do not acknowledge reality. You can have, I'm going to get it. You can have a tape worm and you'll end up losing weight for a bit. And then you'll lose too much weight and it'll kill you. But like there are instances of things like that. And this narcissism and this unwillingness to deal with reality on reality's terms is a parasite that's within Alex Jones. And not only that, but he is absolutely enabled by a toxic masculine culture. Like, unfortunately, don't blame the culture for him. No, no, but, but that's one of the things that he can ride that wave on. Unfortunately, his toxic masculinity does engender people

supporting him. Yeah, people who sort of identify with his platform is ultimately that toxic masculinity. That's why when he goes on his show and says he slept with 150 women at 16, that's not going to hurt him in his audience. I imagine a lot of people listening high fived themselves. Exactly. They're like, and well, and I'm sure they like you fucked all those broads. My man. Exactly. My man. Get it in. Because that's that's a certain wish fulfillment fantasy for those toxic masculine people who watch his show. And especially a wish fulfillment of a time they can't go back to. Yeah, that's all. It's all nonsense. Anyway, Alex, you suck. You suck. Alex suck real bad. Oh, I forgot fucking monster. I forgot. There's also apologize to every fucking

Sandy Hook family, please every single one of them name them. Apologize individually to them at very least apologize for lying about your position and claiming that everyone says that you never said those things. Fucking hypocritical coward. You piece of shit. You garbage human being. But Jordan, I actually forgot to play the out of context drop. We get to end on a high note. It might not be a high note. God damn it. But there is there. I forgot. Here we go. All right. I know most of you know that, but it's a critical war. Start your own website. Start your own blog. Whatever it is, we have and it's at knowledge fight.com. You son of a bitch, Alex, you tricked me. You tricked our listeners. We were all excited and then this just turned into a plug for you.

Alex, we have taken your advice. You want more people entering the info war and we've heard the call and we have taken it up. So you can check us out at knowledgefight.com. We are on Twitter. Once again, Alex, you are your own sword. And upon your petard shall you be hosted. William Shakespeare. William Shakespeare. You could fight us on Twitter at knowledge underscore subscribe to us on iTunes. Leave a review where we were getting a lot of really nice reviews. Yes, it's very nice. We're getting a lot of listeners, which is awesome. Thank you all for joining up and I appreciate all of the I try and respond as well as I can to emails, but it's a I'm very bad at communication. So if I don't get back to you immediately, I definitely apologize.

I'm trying. But also we have a Patreon. If you want to donate to it, it helps us keep this thing going. And then you get to join us in being like, what would you describe us as? Well, I mean, are you saying the same sort of thing that would describe our listeners who donate? Yeah, I mean, like there's there's a certain series, like there's a two word phrase that I would use. Is it? I'm a policy wonk. It's that all right. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Well, Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.