Knowledge Fight - #334: August 21-22, 2019

Episode Date: August 23, 2019

Today, Dan and Jordan keep their eye on the present day of The Alex Jones Show. In this installment, the gents hope to find out how Alex has responded to Trump's flirtations with messianic narcissism,... and in the process get to watch some "conservatives are being censored" narratives fall completely flat.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight, then enjoy knowledge fight. Need money. Andy in Kansas. Andy in Kansas. Andy in Kansas. Stop it. Andy in Kansas.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Andy in Kansas. Andy in Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy in Kansas, you are on the earth. I'm holding. Hello Alex. I'm Mr. Sten colored. I'm a huge fan and love your world.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Knowledge Fight. No, no, no, no. Knowledge Fight.com. I love you. Thank you. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
Starting point is 00:01:01 I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're couple dudes. Like to sit around, drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed we are, Dan. Also, longer theme song back on special request of my mom. Wait, what? My mom voiced her opinion that she missed the longer theme song, but I used the shortened
Starting point is 00:01:19 version on the last episode. Hold on. Now she's listening to the show. She has told me. I'm not sure if she listens to full episodes. She just listens to the. She's told me. She loves that track.
Starting point is 00:01:28 She listens to like the beginnings of some when she's doing some gardening or housework or whatever. Okay. I don't think she has the patience to listen to like two and a half hours of me. No, of course not. But I appreciate it. All the same. Shout out mom.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Oh well. So do you have a question? That's wonderful. I don't know. I don't know if I can recover from Dan. It's a big revelation. Dan. Oh, also some listeners have suggested that possibility is that user submitted questions.
Starting point is 00:01:54 And if they want to, they should probably tweet those at you at go to bed Jordan. Yes. And then you could stealthily throw them in and I would never know the difference. Absolutely. Do that. Yeah. Yeah. He does not check or pay attention to me on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:02:06 So we can have a whole little. Yeah. Yeah. I have a question for you. Okay. All right. What's up? Have you ever met a doppelganger of yourself?
Starting point is 00:02:15 I mean, there's the comedian Don Friesen who doesn't look like me at all. Right. But he is. I've not met him. I did. I almost did. You almost did. Oh, you almost met Don Friesen.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Not you almost met a doppelganger. No. I saw one from afar and you were like, I'm just, I just can't get close to him. I'm not sure I've ever met a doppelganger. I have really squinty crossed eyes and a huge beard. It's very, it's rare that I run into, I don't know. I mean, like when I was younger, I was always, I always got the, you look like Everlast. I've never liked that.
Starting point is 00:02:47 No. A lot of people have said we're feral. I don't like that at all. Really? I don't get that either. I don't see Will Ferrell at all. I think it's completely inaccurate, but I have heard it from a number of people. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:59 No, I don't think I have. I can see maybe a John C. Reilly and Kong. Have you ever seen that whenever he's got the big beard? Hey, you know what? That's not a compliment. What are you talking about? John C. Reilly is great. Sure.
Starting point is 00:03:13 He looks good. Yeah. He's hot. We can't all be hot. If I, if I were needed to look like somebody in the acting world, I would prefer it be one of those character actor types. Oh yeah. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:03:26 If they're much, you know, they get a lot more work. That's what I'm all about. I'm about that work. Yeah, you are. Yeah. This podcast, we know a lot about getting that character actor work and Alex Jones. And I don't know anything about either. Frankly.
Starting point is 00:03:39 So Jordan, today we got an interesting episode to go over. Sure. We'll be checking in. Like I said, on the end of the last episode, we're standing in the present. We're staying in there. And I intended to just keep on going. Sunday, Monday, but the, the times they required me to jump forward. They were a change.
Starting point is 00:03:57 More present. Yeah. Yeah. So today we'll be going over August 21st and 22nd, which is Wednesday and Thursday of this week. And oh boy. All right. Oh boy.
Starting point is 00:04:07 How are we doing? I'm all right. Okay. Good. Good. You know why I'm all right? Why? I'm going to give you some shout outs to some people who have signed up for the show before
Starting point is 00:04:17 we get going. Nicely done. Today we got a lot of walks to go, go through. Let's do it. So we're foregoing technocrats for today to get through a big mass of walks. Good. I'm very excited. I'm sure they appreciate being called a mass.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Hey, it's a group. A gaggle. Is that what we murder of walks? I don't want that to happen. So first Aaron, thank you so much. You're an Al policy. I'm a policy. You're a policy.
Starting point is 00:04:43 I'm a policy one. Thank you. You're an Al policy. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you. Thank you, captain. Mark. You don't think it's Richard?
Starting point is 00:04:51 I think it's him. That could be. Obviously. Next Peter. Thank you so much. You're an Al policy wonk. I'm a policy. jagger the main character from.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Next Dan. Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. My doppelganger was all you got there first. We found next Gregory. Thank you so much. You're in our policy wonk.
Starting point is 00:05:10 I'm a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thanks, Gregory. You think it's Gregory Coppola? The Google whistleblower from our last episode? I doubt it. Probably not. Next Heather.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Thank you so much. You're an Al policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Nice, Heather. And next secret agent CWKE. Thank you so much. You're an Al policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Thank you so much. You're a secret agent. Is that code for the CWKE? CW network. CWKE. I don't know. Cal-L. It's probably some reference to something.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Superman on the CW network. Thank you very much. I will take my 500 points now. I figured it was going to be some anime or something. And you were going to be like, well, this is Bob. This is Final Fantasy 84. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:05:55 I got that coming for the, okay. So finally, I'd like to say a shout out to somebody who, you know, Chris reached out and wanted to bestow a policy wonk status upon someone. So Kella, thank you so much. On behalf of Chris, you are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you so much. Kella.
Starting point is 00:06:17 So if you were left there listening and you're thinking, hey, I like this show. I'd like to support what these guys do. You can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show. We would appreciate it. It would be lovely. So Jordan, when I said that we needed to jump up to the more present, here's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Right. So we record Wednesday's episode on Tuesday in order to be able to get things out. So while we were recording, some things happened. And after we got done, there was news that Trump had made some comments about how Jews who vote for Democrats are disloyal. Yeah. While we were recording Trump went Hitler. Trump just did Hitler.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Trump Hitler. He made some in the present tense. He made some comments that were not good. And then Rudy Giuliani came out and he clarified that Trump didn't mean that those Jews were disloyal to the United States, but they were disloyal to Israel, which actually makes the comments a bit worse. I'm confused as to how he thinks that that's a positive. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:12 No, no, no, no, no. Also making the matters worse was when Trump clarified that that was exactly what he meant, saying, quote, if you vote for a Democrat, you are very, very disloyal to Israel and to the Jewish people. Yeah. Not great. The idea that Jews have an underlying dual loyalty to Israel is a classic trope of antisemitism and white supremacist propaganda in the United States and has been for decades.
Starting point is 00:07:34 And it's very much in line with the worldview propagated by the protocols of the Elder's Zion. This dual loyalty accusation has been used to attack any Jewish politicians and public figures pretty much forever. Yeah. To create the perception that there's no way that a Jewish American could possibly have America's actual interests at heart because they'll always secretly be looking out for Israel.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Number one, of course, it's a truly insane thing to hear the president and one of his close advisors and possibly still lawyer say. Oh, what is their relationship? I don't know. Is it just, it's complicated now? What are we doing here? Yeah, on Facebook it's complicated. I lost track of the particulars of it and I don't really care that much.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Nope. I hope they both have a great time together. So that was on Tuesday evening. And then on Wednesday morning, Trump tweeted a thank you to a very insane right wing radio host named Wayne Allen Root, who had said of Trump, quote, he's the best president for Israel in the history of the world. And the Jewish people in Israel love him like he's the king of Israel. They love him like he's the second coming of God.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Yeah. Has anybody read that book? The one at the end of the big book that everybody loves so much, that Bible one? Have you ever read that last book? Boy, they really sure sound, it's like they're fucking with us. It really is like they're fucking with us. It does feel like a weird prank. Like we're like, I've been an atheist for since I was 12 years old and they're like,
Starting point is 00:08:56 ha ha ha, but what if we fuck with them and make them think that the antichrist is real and we're doing it? It's very strange, the dynamic that's at play. If God's not going to fulfill these prophecies, I'll fucking do it for him. So Trump repeated those comments that Wayne Allen Root had made about himself, seemingly to give them his stamp of approval, which is pretty much what you'd expect from a malignant narcissist who doesn't really care about what other people think or feel. Or anything.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Anything really. So then later on Wednesday, Trump decided it was time to really swing for the fences. In a press gaggle, he was going off on a ramble about how he was standing up to China. And then in the middle of his comments, he looked at the sky and said, quote, I am the chosen one. This is the sort of thing that you might be able to make an argument about it, that he was just saying he was the chosen one to fight China or something. You could not.
Starting point is 00:09:45 But the looking up at the sky part of it, plus the timing of this being right after he tweets something about how people in Israel and Jews look at him like he's the second coming of God. It takes a very, very fucked up dynamic into it. It doesn't exist outside of the context of that tweet he sent in the morning. Nope. Or the comments he made the day before. I am the chosen one looking into the heavens is a profoundly fucked up thing. No matter what the surrounding context is, unless you're doing it like,
Starting point is 00:10:13 wouldn't it be fucking crazy if someone did this? Yes. Yeah. In his defense, this is the one thing that he has said so far in this presidency that makes perfect sense to me. Because who the fuck else could get away with all this shit? Like at a certain point, wouldn't you have to start thinking, either I'm playing with fucking house money or I am literally Harry Potter?
Starting point is 00:10:35 I guess so. Like he has a main character shield around him. He can't go to jail for committing all the crime. Nobody is, nobody is assassinating him, even though we've assassinated nice guys. Nobody is doing anything to stop him. The entire world is going his direction. His buddy is lighting the Amazon on fire and everybody's having a great time. When you say we've assassinated good guys, you mean?
Starting point is 00:10:58 The human race. Exactly. The human race, not you and I particularly. We have assassinated zero people between the two of us. I agree. It is strange. I mean, it's like the logical extension of what he was saying during the campaign of like I could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and no one would care.
Starting point is 00:11:12 And he could. And you never really thought like, what are these like side pieces of that? Right. I could say I'm the chosen one. I could say that Jews are being disloyal to Israel by having different political opinions than me. Yep. And it does not seem to matter.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Nope. He can do anything. Do you know why Dan? Because he is the chosen one. That's the only explanation. Well, I'm going to stop short of that. I'm going to not take a side on that question per se. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:46 But I am going to say that I knew that Alex was going to have some thoughts on these developments. Yes. I knew that there was going to be something of a response from Alex. But I couldn't guess which way it was going to break. If I had to bet money on it before when I first saw that news coming out, I would have thought like, well, we just did an episode about how Trump said he wanted to buy Greenland and that forced Alex to defend the idea of buying Greenland. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:12:13 So I kind of figured that, okay, Trump is going to say this stuff. Alex is now going to have to defend it. He's going to have to say that he is Jesus 2.0. Well, or, I mean, the possibility is Alex could have all of his religious feelings and be like, we have gone too far. Right. I have a part in the expression coming to Jesus moment. Fair.
Starting point is 00:12:33 I didn't know which way it was going to go. So I guess we'll find out on today's episode. So we start on the 21st. Yeah. On Wednesday. Okay. And Alex has sent some of his crew to Hong Kong, which is very exciting. He is going to have people reporting on the protests in Hong Kong.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Some folks have asked about what Alex's position on that is. And he is incoherent. Somewhat. He is in support of the protesters. But there's a strange dynamic that's going on that it's mostly because he hates China. There we go. Which I guess if that's how you get there, that's how you get there. But he also has this mentality of like, the West is now the East.
Starting point is 00:13:11 And like Hong Kong is just us. See, there we go. And it's, it's a very strange, not grappling with the situation outside of just China, bad Hong Kong protesters must be good. He kind of thinks that everybody living in Hong Kong is white and everybody in China is Chinese. There's a feeling of that just based on the way he describes folks. But I don't think that he actually thinks that. Yeah, but there's an element of like, well, Hong Kong is the West and we know what the West is.
Starting point is 00:13:41 They're, they're on West, the West side. Yeah. And so he has a support of them, but it's on a very elementary level. Yeah. But he sent these reporters out there. And so he, in this first clip, he talks about how he's going to cover the spectrum of oppression. He's got, he's got, he's got the people in Hong Kong. Sure.
Starting point is 00:14:02 And then another example. Okay. We've got three of our intrepid reporters, Gregory, Savannah, Hernandez and others on the ground right now in Hong Kong. First of all, I love that he had, he names two, he has three reporters there. He names two of them and then says, and others. Yep. You 100% forgot your third reporter's name. Really, really glad I'm not others in this one.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Cause it's not plural. It's another person. There's only three. We're hundreds of thousands of Chinese troops are threatening to invade. They're going to be on with us coming up in about 15 minutes. Then Carpe Donkton, one of the top memers in the planet. This is Trump at the White House. He launches memeworld.com.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Starts getting banned on Facebook and other platforms within hours. All part of election meddling. So we got Carpe Donkton having some trouble with a meme. Sure. Sure. Okay. So we're in Tiananmen Square in 2019 and we've got Carpe Donkton not being allowed to post dank memes.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Gotcha. Those are the two equivalent situations. And Alex's presentation, these are on par with each other. Yeah. Yeah. Naturally. So Alex starts talking and he gets to discussing who the day's guests are and he has a name in there that might not immediately jump out to you, but this is a person who it is very
Starting point is 00:15:25 fucked up that Alex is having on his show. And then we also have another guest joining us from the UK. And that's Jada Franson, one of the main leaders, resisting the globalist, very well-spoken, lovely lady. She'll be joining us coming up for part of the fourth hour as well that I will be hosting. Very exciting. Alex couldn't find someone to fill in for him for the last hour. Sticking around for the fourth hour.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Very exciting. So it makes some sense if the name Jada Franson doesn't ring a bell to you or some of our non-UK listeners. Her name probably is too well-known here in the U.S. But something that she did might be something that folks remember. If you recall, back in 2017, Trump retweeted some little videos purporting to show immigrant violence in Europe with the explicit purpose of generating and reinforcing xenophobic fears about refugees and foreigners.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Trump was widely and rightly criticized for promoting this message, seeing as it traced to the ultra-right wing, some might say, fascist group, Britain First. And at least one of these videos was found to be completely fake. Jada Franson is a member of Britain First, and it was her tweets that Trump had retweeted. Gotcha. I was really hoping she was the lady who had tried to restore that Jesus painting, and it came out all weird. Remember that one?
Starting point is 00:16:41 Vaguely. That would have been great. That was not her doing. Although she might have been behind the scenes on that. But Franson was the deputy leader of Britain First, and in her time in that position, she explicitly called for Islam to be banned in the U.K. Of course. That's one of her big things.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Of course. She took over as leader of Britain First when their erstwhile leader, Paul Golding, was sentenced to eight weeks in prison for religious harassment. After he violated a court order banning him from entering mosques, given his past history, of going to mosques for the specific purpose of religious harassment. Right. He went to jail, and when he did, Franson took over and pretended that Golding was just taking a leave of absence to deal with family issues.
Starting point is 00:17:20 These guys are great. I love these people. A lot of cover-ups. Yeah. Incidentally, in 2017, Golden was accused of sexual assault by an underage girl. The alleged attack took place at a hotel they went to after the girl had attended one of his Britain First rallies, which was centered around decrying the plague of Muslim child sex abuse.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Ha. Interesting. Ha. Hmm. Hmm. No matter as worse, a former member of Britain First named Graham Moore has come forward and attested that Jada Franson had explicitly tried to coerce this underage girl into not telling anyone what Golding had done.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Morris was in the room and said, quote, Jada was saying, I can give everything you need, a platform. I'll do this for you, that for you. She was offering her all sorts. I'm thinking this is sick. He went on to say that Franson said that the girl needed to, quote, come back to the bar and see you with Paul. So it looks like a misunderstanding.
Starting point is 00:18:16 So if you're keeping score, it looks like Franson was the deputy of an organization trying to demonize Muslims as child abusers who tried to cover up an instance where their leader may or may not have abused a child after a rally they held to demonize Muslims around the issue of child abuse. So she sounds like a normal Alex Jones guest to me. I really just don't think these people care as much about the thing that they're yelling about. No.
Starting point is 00:18:39 I think they're just making some bullshit up in order to sell a whole different agenda. Maybe. I think so, Dan. I really think so. I'm starting to crack this case wide open. It's too bad we don't have a ton of evidence of that. Yeah, I know. Anyway, Franson was formerly a member of Tommy Robinson's English Defense League and has
Starting point is 00:18:54 made a career specifically out of targeting, harassing and agitating against Muslims. In March, 2018, she was sentenced to 38 weeks in prison for religious harassment. This is the result of her and Golding going to a Muslim business where they quote, banged on the windows and doors and screamed pedophile and foreigner. According to the Guardian, quote, two children were playing in the middle of the shop. Legitimately, they're just terrorizing children. The other accounts she was found guilty of were about this troubling habit that Britain first has of showing up at the wrong person's house to harass them.
Starting point is 00:19:27 She showed up at this place that she got the wrong address. She thought it was the address of a defendant in a sex abuse trial, but she didn't know it was the wrong address. So she just targeted some unrelated person and they published a video of her showing up at this person's house, which released their address online. So you also showed up at the correct address of another defendant, but that guy wasn't home. And that didn't stop Jada from yelling and banging on the door anyway.
Starting point is 00:19:53 The defendant's pregnant girlfriend was home, as were her three-year-old and 18-month-old children. The woman testified that Franson, quote, was making racist remarks. Dirty Muslim rapist, come out. We're not going to leave until you're gone. Come out, dirty scumbags. It was directed at Tamin because she thought he was in there, but he wasn't. It made me feel very anxious.
Starting point is 00:20:15 I didn't go outside for a long time. I was also pregnant at the time it happened. Two days after, I started to bleed heavily and lost my daughter. Jesus fucking Christ! She was stillborn. I blame Jada Franson. She also testified that the event has traumatized her child, who still gets scared when anyone knocks on their door.
Starting point is 00:20:34 In May 2019, Franson was arrested again after she gave a speech in Belfast that was determined to be a, quote, general vehement attack against a religious group. In her speech, she yelled about how there is no such thing as moderate Islam, and they quote, these people are baying for our blood. She told rally attendees that it was time for the world to unite against, quote, the one common enemy. Essentially advocating for an extermination campaign against Muslims. I thought it was just her.
Starting point is 00:21:01 I'm pretty sure she is our one common enemy. She's a bad, bad person. I would tell her to go to hell, but I worry that Satan's first words to her would be, you're hired. She has got a fucking resume. Christ. So in court, she had no remorse for the possible consequences of her words. Surprise.
Starting point is 00:21:18 She's a cold-blooded white supremacist and Islamophobe, and Alex Jones giving her a platform is a very strong indication of the type of show he wants to be running. Yeah. So that's not a great announcement. Cool. To have. Cool, cool, cool. That made me feel like, maybe he's not going to talk about Trump's bullshit.
Starting point is 00:21:35 You know, like maybe, what if he doesn't? What if he just goes the entire show and doesn't mention, because this is Wednesday's show. Yeah, I know, but it really makes the most sense for him to do that. I feel like that's exactly what he would do. It is a little on brand. That's what I would do. Yeah. I'd be like, let's punt.
Starting point is 00:21:50 I have zero narratives that include you calling yourself the chosen one. So guess what? Today is, today is day off. To be fair, the chosen one thing probably happened while Alex was on air. Yeah. Or he has no reason to know about that while he's on air. Right, right, right. The other stuff, however.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Yeah. Yeah. The tweet and the calling Jews disloyal has happened before this episode. King of Israel, of course. Sure. So Alex has got his people out in Hong Kong, and he decides he's going to do a live interview with them, and he is fucking so excited about this. And I would say that this is a demonstration of him being very rude.
Starting point is 00:22:26 She's there in Hong Kong, other side of the world by the miracle of the internet. She talks to us now. Give us your take on what you've seen so far and what it's like to be somewhere that's already a war zone. Hi, Alex. Thanks for having me on. So we've seen a lot of activity since we got here just this morning. Of course, as soon as we got here, our cab driver and locals on the streets, they noticed
Starting point is 00:22:45 that we're American media and they're really interested. Okay. Well, hey, Savannah, like I said, the miracle of the other side of the world. We'll talk to you guys later today. That's insane. I mean, I know that audio quality isn't good, but you could hear what she's saying. There's literally no reason. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:23:02 I mean, you sent her to Hong Kong and they're like, ah, the audio is too low. Fuck it. So funny. That is so funny. Within like 20 seconds of talking to her. Just punch on. How much money did you how much money did you spend to send them all to Hong Kong and
Starting point is 00:23:20 then just be like, oh God, they're a little bit soft. Get him out of here. You're fired. You're fired. You're fired. You're fired. Oh God, they're a little bit soft. Get him out of here.
Starting point is 00:23:32 They're fired. Fuck it. We'll get special reports out of it. Yeah. Yeah. They can film some stuff there and we'll put it out. This interview that I'm so excited about live interview from around the world. You know, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:23:43 I feel like she was doing a pretty good job. Totally fine. She was doing all right. She was doing okay. Yep. And like I said, bad audio quality. Yeah. Audible.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Yes. You could hear what she's saying. You could conduct that interview. It'd be totally fine. Have your producer adjust some levels. You pretend he has a competent producer. Fair enough. So instead of talking to the Hong Kong people, he decides to jump to the other topic of oppression,
Starting point is 00:24:06 which of course is Count Dankula. Really don't like that. We live in 2019. I keep. I know. Carpe Donkton. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:16 They're the same fucking guy. He's fucking names. So yeah, he jumps to Carpe Donkton and his meme world. In a moment, we're going to go to Carpe Donkton, one of the top meme makers in the world. Just recently having long meetings with President Trump at the White House when Trump warned big tech to stop censoring. Well, he's launched memeworld.com because on Facebook and Twitter and on Instagram, hundreds of millions of accounts, yes, of meme sites and meme followers have been purged so that
Starting point is 00:24:44 we can't communicate with this new modern form of communication. Beyond the MOG, it is the meme. It is art. And so he went up on Facebook with memeworld.com and within two hours, they had banned it. So we got an interesting situation on our hands. First of all, I love just the obsession with memes. It's not something that's going to look ridiculous in like 10 years. Looking back on this.
Starting point is 00:25:10 It looks ridiculous now. It does to me. It would have looked ridiculous five years ago when it already started looking ridiculous when people were doing memes 10 years ago. Yeah. And we've already gone over in the past episode this bullshit narrative about like tons of millions of people being purged. And how that's a great misrepresentation.
Starting point is 00:25:29 I went and checked in and like Carpe Donkton's got his fan page completely active on Facebook. It has like 30,000 followers post stuff. I don't see any indication that he's been kicked off. But there's this idea that his meme world site is somehow banned on Facebook. And that's kind of interesting because it's not. Well, I'm not sure that it is. I went to Infowars and I checked their version of the story about it and there were some screenshots of like links not being allowed to be posted.
Starting point is 00:26:00 I started to think about like, now why would that be the case? What is the issue with it? And I think I solved the problem when Alex plays the trailer for Carpe Donkton's website, which is what all of these links went to. Here's the latest Carpe Donkton trailer from memeworld.com. I'm going to play the whole thing. We played it at the start, but here's just a flavor of it. It's very well done. I just came outside to try to process all this.
Starting point is 00:26:36 I want you to create the best memes the world has ever seen. Now, if I were Facebook and I had a quality control, I would probably ban this link just for like, this looks fucking stupid. But that's not the issue. How much of this is he going to play? Quite a bit. Really? Well, it must be conservatives that are being banned.
Starting point is 00:27:29 And the best part is when Hillary and all the other Democrat candidates for president, the female ones, are cheerleaders. More of that coming up in a moment. It's good for radio. We really need to see it. So Alex cuts it off even before the part. Like this is a clear copyright violation. Oh yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:27:47 He's using way too much of Gangnam style. Yeah. This is not something you're allowed to do. No, you absolutely cannot do that. So did he play in the original episode of Mickey Mouse while he was doing this too? What is going on? So it's important to point out that the links that were blocked in the screenshots that Alex is promoting is proof of Carpe Donkton censorship are all people trying to post that trailer.
Starting point is 00:28:08 And it includes a very long section of Gangnam style, which is a copyrighted piece of work. I have no idea whether or not this is the reasoning that Facebook used for this trailer. It's an unsanctioned use of copyrighted material. The fact that it's a clear theft of intellectual property. But if that is the reasoning for why this link is blocked, then there's every reason not to allow it. Like that makes total sense. Yeah, no, absolutely. I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:28:33 And honestly, if Facebook enforced their actual guidelines, then Carpe Donkton shouldn't be allowed to use their platform thanks to their authenticity rule that requires people to have accounts under the name they use in real life. My larger feeling is indifference though. I went to meme world and man that place sucks. It's just a basic ass word press template with a scroll of anti-left memes being posted. I looked through them and there seems to be almost no engagement. The vast majority of things posted there have zero comments and barely anything has over 100 likes. All it takes, all it takes to like something on there is just press the like button.
Starting point is 00:29:07 And a site announcement itself only has 136 likes. All right, so the problem that I'm seeing is his web page is being suppressed by Google and Facebook and Gab. They're all in this together to make sure that Count Dancula or no. Carpe Donkton. They're all so fucking stupid Dan. Yeah, my point here is that Carpe Donkton is super lucky that Facebook blocked one of his links. Otherwise, the only thing you'd have to go on Alex's show to talk about is his GeoCities ass meme page that's getting D plus traffic. And that's the last I'm going to say about Carpe Donkton, this representative of future internet communication
Starting point is 00:29:44 whose innovation seems to be basically a shitty Tumblr page. Yeah, congratulations. I think he's got us. The right is too good at humor for us to survive, Dan. Yeah. So when I heard that, very clear. Copyright violation. Way too long use of Gangum style.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Really ridiculously long. I kind of suspect that it might be intentional. Like, I think that there, I don't know this to be the case. You think he was trying to get copyright violated so you would at least have some evidence that somebody was blocking him from doing it. I think it's a possibility. This grift runs so strongly and is fueled by censorship and oppression and the victim hood, the agreement of the right is so essential to it. So if you're going to do something like announce your website, it makes sense to do something that is illegal in it. That you just ignore the fact that it is against copyright laws.
Starting point is 00:30:38 So then you guarantee that it's going to be taken down and then you'd be like, they can't even handle the fact that, you know, I just, I get the sense that that's possible. I'm not saying that it is because that would be a wild assumption for me to make when it could just be that he's stupid. Which is Occam's razor, you know, top, top, top of the list. Certainly. Until there's evidence that he's actually intentionally doing that, I will consider it a hunch when stupidity completely satisfies as an explanation. But I kind of thought like, that's probably what happened here. And then when Carpe Dongtum starts talking, he kind of makes it clear that that is exactly what's happening. I'm going to alert you to something new is I can't share the meme world link on Twitter either.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Unless I remove the little preview, it won't let me share a link to meme world. You can only share just the meme world.com. But if you try to have it have the preview, which a lot of people use to click on, it won't let you share it. It'll just send it to your drafts and won't let you send the message. That's on Twitter now. So that's clear. He is too stupid. That's clear.
Starting point is 00:31:53 You can share the link. You can't share it with the copyright infringing content. Right. Right. This is ridiculous. Yeah. This is a non-issue. This is non-censorship.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Right. If you can share the link to your website, then your website's not getting blocked. Right. One thing is, and it is a clear violation of size copyright. Right. Well, just because Facebook and Google and Twitter aren't censoring you doesn't mean you shouldn't tell people that they're censoring you, Dan. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Yeah. I think we're going to get kicked off before they do. Yeah. Probably. God. So Alex has another agreement narrative about tech censorship gone awry. Sure. Everything being so terrible for Trump.
Starting point is 00:32:36 And it's, what do you know, a load of bullshit. I mean, they're at war with reality. I mentioned this and it's here in my stacks and put it back on screen. Did you see where they just banned the Republican national committees ad because it said, we're looking for strong women? And they said, well, someone that got that might not be a woman and hearing the word woman might trigger them. This is a war on language by design.
Starting point is 00:32:57 So Carpe Duncan isn't aware of this story. So he accepts Alex's interpretation of it and then is like, yeah, they are totally out of control. They're trying to take over language. Yes. Exactly. Yeah. This scam doesn't run on like critical questioning.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Wait, Alex, hold on one second. Could you please explain further the actual issue you're talking about? Because of course the assumption that like, hey, we're looking for strong women. This must be some sort of a thing with like these trans people are so offended by the word woman. Yeah. Yeah. Purple penguins, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:33:31 That's the narrative that Alex runs with with this. So the problem actually is that the Trump ad, the problem that it had and the reason that it was disallowed was that it presumed a person's gender in the ad itself, which is against Facebook's ad policies. Quite literally, if you look at Facebook's advertising rules, the first thing you'll find is a link to the rules about personal attributes, quote, ads must not contain content that assert or imply personal attributes. This includes direct or indirect assertions or implications about a person's race, ethnic
Starting point is 00:34:05 origin, religion, beliefs, age, sexual orientation or practices, gender identity, disability, medical condition, including physical and mental health, financial status, membership in a trade union, criminal record or name. So what they do is they allow, we're looking for Christians, but they don't allow, are you a Christian? Okay. They don't do that. All right.
Starting point is 00:34:28 That is disallowed. Okay. So you can't be like, are you an Indian with a broken leg who is dabbling in Buddhism? Then you should be voting for Trump. Right. That kind of thing. That sort of, even though you can target people based on who should see this ad, you still can't in the body of the ad presume someone's, any characteristic about them.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Right. That's deemed against their policies. Gotcha. This is a really basic thing about their rules. And if Trump and his team or whoever posted this stupid ad, it's been even a second figuring out what they're doing and whether it was allowed or not, they wouldn't have been able to post the ad and wouldn't have done it in the first place. This is where we get back to those theories that I was kicking around.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Yeah. This shit just seems like a, like right wing fuckheads creating their own victim hood to complain about. Carpegiductin, like I said, he uses gangam style in the trailer for his dumb meme page, probably knowing that it wasn't covered by fair use. His link isn't allowed and boom, you got a free speech, grift cooking. These people who made this Trump ad had every reason to know that you can't post an ad on Facebook that presumes a person's gender, but they do it anyway.
Starting point is 00:35:35 When it gets taken down for breaking the rules, boom, you got a culture war, grift cooking. This shit is really sad. These dumb, dumb fascists are so desperate to paint themselves as victims. They have to paint instances where they're being, they're not being allowed to break the rules as some kind of an oppression. This is the only way that they can get attention. It's the only way they can pretend they're relevant and it's honestly getting exhausting. I was exhausting years ago.
Starting point is 00:36:01 The problem is that it's working and it never seems to stop working. And it seems like if you're stupid and a cheater, then you are of course being oppressed by any rules because stupid cheaters are bad. If you expect to be able to cheat and nothing applies to you, then yes, rules are oppression. Rules are oppression. That might actually be... That is exactly what these people believe. That might be it.
Starting point is 00:36:27 It's like they... You might have accidentally stumbled into the explanation. It's like they get pulled over and they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Did you guys not know? Well, I can drive 90 miles an hour in the school zone. I'm white. I'm allowed to travel. Come on.
Starting point is 00:36:42 It's in the... I don't... Subscribe to Maritime Law. Yeah. Jesus. Sure. So in this next clip, Carpe Donkton is talking about the rules for people posting stuff on Meme World.
Starting point is 00:36:53 And what do you know? He has some censorship cooking. Right now there is discussion. You can talk in the comments and things like that, but it's not open for just anyone to post. Why? And that's for obvious reasons because they're going to send in Southern Harvey Law Center people posing as us saying, Hall Hitler.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Yeah. I'm going to try to avoid having just random trolls posting Hitler and Nazi salutes and all that kind of stuff. Well, you know what? They don't have any for a guy going there and saying something before he goes and shoots up a school. I mean, we know all their tricks. Those are not their tricks.
Starting point is 00:37:28 That's what you guys do. That's what you guys do. I mean, it's a really good protective technique to say something like this. Oh, so good. It's very awesome to always paint like anything that is an indication that people on your side of things seem to be causing a lot of violence. It's good to just preemptively and universally be like, oh, those are actually just Antifa people.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Yeah. Yeah. Do you have any Antifa people posting Hall Hitler in our website? I haven't seen any. You haven't seen any? Do we have any? We don't even have any regular people posting Hall Hitler. So it seems like there are far fewer Antifa people who are fake posting Hall Hitler, but
Starting point is 00:38:15 there are a bunch of people who are regular people who would post Hall Hitler because they love Hitler. But of course, I mean, you guys are Hitler. This is a tacit understanding and a recognition on Alex and Doc's part that like a lot of our fans fucking love Hitler. Yeah. And we need to come up with a way to explain that that isn't, huh, a lot of our fans love Hitler.
Starting point is 00:38:36 It's sad. It's really bumming me out that the media middleman seem to be the only people who are trying to keep the right from being fans outright Nazis. Like Trump is just literally going full Hitler just like, I'm saying Hitler words. I am a Nazi. He might as well stand up in front of everyone and go, I am a Nazi. Somebody who votes for him is like, yeah, we love Nazis. And the media is trying to come up with any and all possible excuses for why he's not
Starting point is 00:39:06 a Nazi. Just really convoluted explanations. They're the only ones who are getting in the way. We all know he's a Nazi. We all know they're Nazis. Let's just move on. Perhaps. So Alex has some weird fucking ads on this show.
Starting point is 00:39:19 He has one where he says like, if you guys just pay me a bunch of money and buy a bunch of stuff, I will do less ads, which I like that. It's almost like a recognition that his part like, I do too much. That is too much. Plugging. That is stuck. Home syndrome is what that is. I do too much plugging and I'm recognizing that it's probably annoying the shit out
Starting point is 00:39:38 of my listeners. So I'll tell you what, give me a bunch of money and I'll stop. I have been punching you over and over and over again. And if you just give me a bunch of money, I will punch you slightly fewer times. It's very weird, but I respect it. And then he has another one that's not really an ad, but of course it's like an ad for Info Wars itself, where he's rambling about how great farmers are and sure, fine, fine. It includes this that I just think is really funny.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Americans aren't going to be bullied and we aren't going to back down so to the walking cruises and the Hillary Clinton's, the world that want to intimidate people and tell us to back down. We're never going to give up. And all you've done is a wake of the human spirit. That's a walking Castro, not Cruz. Did he say walking cruises? I really thought he said walking cruises.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Yeah, I was like, is that a different type of cruise that I'm on a boat and there's a track on it, a walking pedestrianism. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's that's, that's funny. I mean, you can't even be bothered to care about the things he pretends to care about. This is ludicrous. Let's go to Hong Kong. How are we doing out there? You know, the thing too is like, this is a pre-recorded thing back.
Starting point is 00:40:50 This is no, that's a pre-recorded. Oh, no, he could have done a second take. Anybody who is like in the control room or his cameraman could have been like, hey, Alex, you got that name wrong. Look, it'll take us 10 seconds. We can edit it in. Let's just do another take. We can even do it from another angle so it doesn't look like you fucked up.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Come on, man, let's do this. Let's let's be professionals. Walking cruise isn't a person that you hate. It's walking Castro. Even drunk George Orwell did a second take for God's sake. It's it's it's pathetic. It's the pathetic level of professionalism. Um, so Alex really wants to make sure that no one thinks that the Trump
Starting point is 00:41:28 ad targeting strong women is an issue with Facebook's ad policies that everyone is subject to. Of course. He wants to make it seem like it's a gender issue. He's very desperate about that. And so here is a clip of him doing that. The magnitude now of it, 1999, you'd never imagined this. Even in a science fiction book about dystopia, you'd say, oh, they'll never
Starting point is 00:41:51 have a dystopia where you can't send out an email or a text message or something saying strong women. Because someone might have seen it. Someone might have been hurt. This is such next level. And we're just here taking it like it's old. That's just the next level. And that's how tyranny works.
Starting point is 00:42:06 They incrementally get you to take more and more and more of the poison until you just finally have just succumbed to the insanity. So there's a total method of this madness. What do you say? Carpe don't come. I just don't. I just love any clip that ends like that. How say you?
Starting point is 00:42:23 What do you say? Carpe don't come. No, no, no. I'm going to say a bunch of misleading and stupid bullshit. And then I'm going to throw it to the meme wizard. That's that's unreal. That's unreal. A guy who has no real qualifications except he edits tiny pieces of media.
Starting point is 00:42:40 It's it. We can't live in a world where that's like two years away from being on CNN. That's two years away from somebody going, but yeah. And what do you think? Carpe donked him like, oh, we might be too far down the road to avoid that. Honestly, we'll see. Can we shorten it to Carpe or donked him? Donk.
Starting point is 00:43:01 You want to go with Donk? Sure, I will go with Donk for sure. So at the beginning of this episode, I mentioned that Alex announced that Jada Franzen was going to be on. Yes. And Jada Franzen Smith, we all know her. She was great. And it turns out that she doesn't show up.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Oh, no. She gets bumped, which is the good news that is good news. This is the good news of this next clip, although it does come with some bad news. Zachary Voorhees is live in studio with Alex Jones to take your question. So, you know, and I'm going to do this for the next guest. I really wanted Jada Franzen on for a month.
Starting point is 00:43:38 We couldn't get her, but now she's able to come on. But this is so important. We're going to clear the decks and we apologize to her Jada Franzen dot online. We're just going to move that on because we're getting started a little bit later today. But when we come back, we're launching straight into this and this this whistleblower that came here as colleagues are calling him the Ed Snowden, a big tech whistleblower. This is huge. Can you imagine Edward Snowden going to Project Veritas?
Starting point is 00:44:04 Seems weird. So Zach Voorhees, again, the the quote unquote Google whistleblower, who believes there's a Zionist occupational government. Right. And also has said that the Jews were on the media and all that shit. He is back. Do you think Alex asks him about that? Oh, God, because he doesn't know what is he seems to just leave that part aside. I would like to I would like to have a clear hierarchy.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Zach, what about that song? Just that does not happen. No, OK, I want a clear hierarchy of who who bumps who? You know what I'm saying? With info wars, guests, I want a clear like, oh, Leo called. So he bumps this person. He bumps that like, like we're talking clearly already. He's Conan, you get bumps from the.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Yeah, already. Zach's been responsible for Leo getting bumped on last episode 30 minutes or so. He's fucking all right. OK, he is the cat's meow. Right. Right. Right. Where's the guy who smashes things with his little hammer? Alex would drop Voorhees for that. Hit the piggyback.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Hit the piggyback. Hit it. It all hits up in here. So Alex and Voorhees, they I would we talked about him on the last episode. And so when I heard he was on, he was going to be on for the rest of the show. Yeah, I was like, I don't want to do this. No, I don't want to go back into this. But I also decided that like they have a long time on this show.
Starting point is 00:45:33 They better get into actual evidence of his claims. No, absolutely not. Because if they have two hours completely renegade free program, then obviously you would present your evidence. And so I decided I would try and isolate any instances of actual evidence that this guy is presenting. I'm going to go with freewheeling chat about God, maybe. Alex tries to get into that a little bit, but it's not really the predominant thing.
Starting point is 00:46:03 It's bullshit. Wait, so this really go on for another couple of hours. It goes on the whole rest of the show. That can't be true. It does. Jesus Christ. And Alex does host the fourth hour. And I'll tell you this. He does not seem to like Zach Voorhees as a person.
Starting point is 00:46:17 I think he finds him a little annoying. I think he triggers that like sort of nerd. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like his bully comes out a little because there's a couple points we can just tell he's like, oh, fuck this guy. Fuck. So so Alex and Zach discuss an interview. This is one of their pieces of evidence. The first thing they bring up, they bring up an interview that Eric Schmidt did
Starting point is 00:46:42 with Charlie Rose, which is definitely not something we need a whistleblower for. No. In the interview, Schmidt says that the fact that you get a ton of answers from a search on Google is a bug in their system. If the search function was perfect, you'd always get the right answer for what you're looking for every time. He's clearly talking about factual information like who was president during the Louisiana Purchase, but Alex and Voorhees seem to think that
Starting point is 00:47:05 which Schmidt is talking about applies to literally everything. Right. And that's probably not a fair assessment of what he was saying. Are you sure it's not because Alex and Zach are both geniuses who can read between the lines? It's possible. OK, so that's the first thing that they bring up. And I find that to be an incredibly weak piece of evidence, especially for a guy
Starting point is 00:47:25 like you're the whistleblower. Yeah, you don't need to go to Charlie Rose. No, no, no, you point to readily available public information. That's how people blow whistles down. It's it was on TV, bro. Yeah, Charlie Rose doesn't have the viewership that maybe, you know, the talk shows of your or as many visitors as the Donk. Certainly not.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Yeah, yeah, yeah. How do you? So not going to find out if Snowden just pointed to a clip of Maddow. Oh, my God. If Snowden pointed to a clip of Maddow, we would have murdered him by now. That would be amazing. The entire country would have just descended upon him like rocks from a mountain. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Snowden finally has the chance to talk. And he is like, have you seen this fucking Chris Hayes interview? Got to go. Oh, man, I know you guys think Larry King has been off the air for a while now. But I've got some underground Larry King footage to show you. Yeah, so that was the first piece of evidence. We'll get into a little bit more. But the issue that I ran into very quickly is that things that we know that
Starting point is 00:48:30 Zach has put into the world and believes take some of the things he's saying that might just be like, ah, this is a stupid Alex Jones interview and take them into a very, very dark territory. And this first one involves Soros. I mean, they are they call us Nazis all day. They are literally funded. Their main funder is a Nazi collaborator. Yeah, you can't make this up.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Yeah, George Soros, you know, and there's there's there's videos of him. I've seen two videos now where he's talking about the exhilaration that he had sending Jews off to concentration camps. And what's really ironic is that if we criticize George Soros, then they call us anti-Semites. And it's like we're not criticizing him because, you know, he is criticizing he's a damn Nazi collaborator. Yeah, exactly, you know.
Starting point is 00:49:22 But see, it's that death of logic. The reason Alex laughed there is because he knows that he's talking shit. Yeah, of course. He's admitted as much on his second Rogan appearance that the idea of, well, you know, Soros being involved with the Nazis is not an answered question. No, he's talking shit. It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:49:39 This is not OK to hear from, first of all, Alex, period. But then a guy who believes in a fucking Zog. This isn't OK. This is like, and what he's saying isn't true. It's not real. These videos of Soros talking about taking away Jews isn't something that exists. Right. That's a fake thing that they're talking about. And they're demonizing George Soros in this way
Starting point is 00:50:04 because of those other beliefs that they have. Right. Right. The whole he's Jewish thing. Right. Yeah. The whole Jews control the world. Mythology and ideology that Zach Voorhees very clearly subscribes to. Alex Jones is allowing essentially a complete anti-Semitic pageant to happen on his show under the guise of this guy having Google documents that prove X, Y, or Z. Right. And they don't.
Starting point is 00:50:30 It's another example where they're cheating makes me want my head to explode as soon as possible, because here's the thing that they're claiming. They're claiming that while they're making anti-Semitic attacks right under the guise of bullshit and we call them out as being anti-Semites, they're we're trying to suppress their speech. And we're the ones who are actually anti-Semitic. Because we all work for George Soros who work who is a Nazi, which is an anti-Semitic smear.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Right. But if somebody like, say me, were to criticize Israel's apartheid policies and their destruction, you know, people, then that's because I'm anti-Semitic, not because apartheid's bad. Sure. Yeah. So one of those is true, but somehow both of them are driving me insane. Yep. They're not great. And we'll get back to that other thought. Yeah. Oh, boy. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But first, we have to have another gigantic red flag be thrown off the field by one Zach Voorhees and then Alex just fucking runs with it. He loves it. How do we fight back? Yeah. So and then gut level up. What do you think their Achilles heels are? So I actually want to recommend a book
Starting point is 00:51:47 called SJW is Always Lie by Vox Day. Yeah. Oh, no. A book that I would recommend that someone would read if they're going to plug it. But we do sell it at InformerStore.com. That's one of the few books I've read the last year. I've been so busy. Yeah. They always lie. Oh, boy. Looks like Alex is an insatiable reading habit has dropped off.
Starting point is 00:52:08 So Vox Day is an explicit white supremacist. He supports the terrorist acts committed by Anders Brevik and refers to him as Saint Brevik. He's a race IQ guy. He's literally called homosexuality a birth defect and argued that the acceptance of LGBTQ rights as a symptom of a civilization in collapse. He wrote on his blog, quote, for most Americans, the issue isn't whether Jews have divided loyalties or not. It's whether they have any loyalty to the United States at all.
Starting point is 00:52:35 So I'm sure he loves Trump's comments. Yeah, he's doing great. He's advocated for horrendous war crimes against Palestinians saying, quote, the Israeli government must announce to the world a unilateral ceasefire balanced by the deadly promise that for every Israeli soldier killed, 25 Palestinian police will die. For every civilian, 100 non-combatant Palestinian adults will be slain and for every child, a thousand adults. This shit was posted on WorldNet Daily.
Starting point is 00:53:00 WorldNet Daily's editors read that and said, yeah, this looks good. Let's go ahead and post that. Yeah, I think they I think we're I think they they might actually be Nazi. So I think that was back in 2002. I think we're there. That was 2002. Yeah, he's been a shithead for a long time. Important of popular things to come. Vox Day is a complete monster.
Starting point is 00:53:19 His books, SJW is always lie is shit. I don't need to read it to tell you that at all. If Vox Day wrote it and Milo Yiannopoulos wrote the forward for it, which he did, I can tell you sight on scene that it's a load of worthless drivel. But it's exactly the sort of book you'd probably expect to hear being promoted by a guy who believes the US is under a Zionist occupied government. Alex's shows become completely inundated. I turn on an episode these days and the guests are either white supremacist,
Starting point is 00:53:46 fascism advocates or Alex's lawyers. The show is a complete disaster. And if the diminishing sound quality is any indication, it's running on borrowed time. Like I think it feels like the wheels have completely fallen off the wagon. Well, so as as goes info war, so goes America is what they say. That's right. That's Tom Jefferson. As info wars falls off the map, America goes into right next to him. So we got, you know, anti-Semitic
Starting point is 00:54:12 conspiracies about Soros and promotions of Vox Day's book being put forth by this guy who believes in a Zog on Alex's show, which is a relevant piece of information about both of those things. Right. They shade what he's talking about. Right. Now, what you're forgetting, though, Dan, is that you and I are anti-Semites. There you go. See, now he's fine. The guy who's like all about let's exterminate people. You know, that guy, he's he's good.
Starting point is 00:54:40 OK. You and I are bad. So in his next clip, Zach uses some code language that should be. It's a little familiar to us, but it works. That's not code. He's speaking to people. He's signaling to people. All right. I've been at Google for eight years and and then the last three.
Starting point is 00:55:01 That's when everything was turning into clown world. And so I decided that that, you know, understanding how the Marxist left works, I realized that they don't even understand that what they're doing is appalling and reprehensible. And as a result, they just left all of their documents about what they were going to do, all their plans available on the internal public internet. So cool. I found all this.
Starting point is 00:55:28 They didn't even know to hide all the smoking gun proof. And I just grabbed it all up and we'll see what he has to present. Like Ed Snowden and Rachel Maddow's clip room. Him using a clown world there is signaling to a particular audience that is 100 percent what's being done. And we've seen Alex do that as well. Yeah. To the extent that Alex is aware of what he's doing. I think he is, but you could probably make the same argument that he's fucking stupid. And one of his interns or something is like, call a clown world.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Right. Oh, it makes sense. They're clowns. Right. Whereas what it really is, is a tip of the hat to white supremacist and neo-nazi leaning, leaning groups. Yeah, he might as well switch from 1776, 2.0 to 1488, 2.0. No, no, no, no, no. Only a select few prisoners know about it.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Yeah, that's right. I forgot. I forgot. It was a select few prisoners, my bad. So Alex is doing a lot of plugging during this talk with Zach. And in this next clip, I love this so much. In the span of 20 seconds, Alex plugs two shirts that he explicitly stole the designs for. And we've got some of the t-shirts, by the way, that are limited edition. The shirt inspired already had it being designed, but then I saw Chris Pratt wearing
Starting point is 00:56:43 a belt tread on me with a gadget snake with the Betsy Ross. I'm like, that's genius. So we change it to that. That shirt is almost sold out. So is the last run of the Space Force. So those are both stolen. Like he even says on there, like I saw Chris Pratt. So we changed it to that.
Starting point is 00:57:01 That's even more explicit than he has been in the past. He's implied very heavily that he stole that design because he saw it on Chris Pratt. But now he's saying we changed our design to what I saw on him. That's intellectual property theft. Yeah, he just admitted to a crime. That's personal, like that's like his whole thing is private property. He loves it so much. You know, but that does make that does make more sense.
Starting point is 00:57:22 Why the why the donk would be confused that his stuff was being censored for copyright violation, because they've copyrighted copyright all the time and they've never had any consequences for it. Be like the position that they could have, I see, is like intellectual property doesn't exist. Yeah. But in order for them to make that, they need to change a number of the things that they say. They also need to stop complaining about China and their intellectual property theft. They have to, you know, take that that arrow out of their quiver.
Starting point is 00:57:53 And they don't think they're willing to do that. And so they're internally inconsistent when they steal other people's intellectual property and yell about it all day. The rules do not apply to me and my ilk, Dan. Sure. The rules apply to you, the people who I'm trying to oppress and you won't just let me oppress you. Fair enough. So we get back here to the evidence that Zack is putting forth.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Right. He has an odd, some audio of the, the Susan Wachecki giving a speech at an internal meeting, and it doesn't really demonstrate anything close to what he's saying. He's got that episode of Muppet Babies in his back pocket. He does. The speech that he has essentially boils down to like, we are going to not put bullshit in our feeds. Yeah. And, you know, why would you want a company to just allow anything in their news feed? Right, right, right. It's, it doesn't, it doesn't prove what he's saying in any way.
Starting point is 00:58:52 So then he brings out the docket, one of the documents that he wants to highlight. And it's not good. It's not a good example. This is part of the document dump that was released through Project Baratoss. If the audience wants to look at this, they can, they can go to Project Baratoss and download this. And this is called the training global Google efforts to address fake news. And so on page five, there's this document here.
Starting point is 00:59:19 And if you look at the second example, and that is WikiLeaks confirms Hillary sold weapons to ISIS, then drops another bombshell breaking news. OK. And then the second one is something similar. Hillary's ISIS email just leaked and it's worse than anyone could have imagined. Well, Hillary Clinton was running weapons to ISIS through Benghazi. So one of the issues that needs to be addressed here is that Zach Vorhees is not very smart. He might be a good engineer or whatever, but he is a really stupid guy.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Here he is pointing to one of the documents he released about Google defining what they consider to be fake news, and he takes issue with their example. The example Google uses is about stories involving a WikiLeaks release of an email, particularly these stories are ones that allege that the email proved that Hillary was selling weapons to ISIS. Today is not the day for us to get into Benghazi, and we've talked about it a bit in the past, so let us leave that aside for a second. I don't even care about any of the particular issues about Hillary selling weapons.
Starting point is 01:00:25 I don't care about Benghazi, any of that stuff. Here's why, because it's not relevant at all to the subject that Zach is talking about and this document that he has from Google. What's in play in this consideration is whether or not the stories about WikiLeaks releasing an email that proved Hillary was selling weapons to ISIS, whether or not those are true, that is it. Yeah, that's the only determinative factor about whether or not these stories are fake or not.
Starting point is 01:00:53 It could very well be that Hillary was selling weapons to ISIS, the Confederate States of America and spider leadership, that has zero bearing on whether or not a story about a WikiLeaks email is true or not. The only factor is whether or not such an email exists, because if it doesn't, then all the stories that are saying it does are lying and fake. That email doesn't exist. The closest thing that WikiLeaks has ever released is a series of emails from 2014, where Hillary indicates an awareness that the Saudi government had been clandestinely
Starting point is 01:01:24 supporting ISIS and that we sold Saudi Arabia weapons. She also explicitly notes in that chain of emails that their support of ISIS was something that we needed to apply pressure on to get them to stop doing. The entire rest of the email is about stopping ISIS, so I'm not sure if this comes close to qualifying as proof of her intentionally selling weapons to ISIS. Also, Alex probably wants to keep the conversation squarely away from Saudi Arabia, lest you have to talk about Trump's huge weapon sales of late. This is a classic case of a conservative media site creating a sensational headline.
Starting point is 01:01:56 In this case, WikiLeaks confirms Hillary sold weapons to ISIS, which is just picked up and repeated like a bad game of telephone until people repeating it no longer really even realized they have no idea where they got the information from. They don't want to sound stupid, so they claim that they read the WikiLeaks emails, but dollars to donuts, if you ask them which email they're talking about, they wouldn't have an answer for you. They couldn't have an answer for you because no such email has ever been
Starting point is 01:02:21 released by WikiLeaks. You could make a pretty solid argument that during her time as Secretary of State, a lot of weapons got sold or sent places that could have eventually found their way into the hands of ISIS, through theft or mishandling or some combination of circumstances, but that's not the claim that's being made by these sites. They're alleging that Hillary Clinton knowingly and intentionally sold weapons to ISIS, which is a false claim. They're further saying that this WikiLeaks email proves their claim,
Starting point is 01:02:47 which itself is another false claim. This is why Google would use this as an example of a fake news story, because it is one. Zach, the whistleblower, is so entrenched in the world of right wing conspiracy and propaganda that he has no idea what the actual conversation is that's happening. He has his conclusion in mind, so he has zero interest in the nuance of why the example Google is using is actually a really good case study. He's very, very dumb, which is why he would find a ton of innocuous documents
Starting point is 01:03:14 on Google's share folder and then decide that there was some kind of a smoking gun. Yeah, I've I've read a number of the documents. I don't have time to read all thousand of them, and some of them are not even relevant in any way to any of the arguments he's making. But I did find a website that broke down all of the documents. Yeah, and their assessment of it from a tech perspective was that actually this paints Google in a really good light. Yeah, of course, there's nothing in there that a fucking course.
Starting point is 01:03:44 And then here's the other issue about this matter. Just make it up and lie about it. It just matters that something is there. But here's what does matter about this situation. When Zach Voorhees released these documents to Project Veritas, neither he nor James O'Keeffe took the time to protect the identities of people who are mentioned to the documents, the personal information of people in email threads. They didn't nothing.
Starting point is 01:04:06 One entire folder marked partisanship is mostly screenshots of Google employees, social media accounts that Zach collected, where they say things that he feels indicates that there's a company wide bias. Leaving aside how fucking stupid that argument is that individuals having opinions indicates that the entire company has the same opinion. This is a shameful act of doxing on a massive scale, and it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that it could put some of these people in danger. If Zach is arguing that these people are trying to social engineer the country
Starting point is 01:04:35 into a fraudulent election, he's putting a gigantic target on them. And Project Veritas decided to release the documents unredacted. No legitimate journalistic outlet would ever do something like that. It's really, really fucked up. That is incredibly fucked up. Yeah, they can they can't do that. Can they? I guess. Why didn't we write laws for all this shit that in retrospect seems really,
Starting point is 01:04:58 really obviously it's so it's but that's why, because it's so cartoonishly evil, we would never have assumed we would need to write down those stupid laws, fucking unreal. Well, I imagine that it's technically legal, like because it's not, you know, like your social media account is publicly available. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get I get all of that shit. But it's it's very clear that this is with malicious intent. A hundred percent is absolutely the only only outcome that you can really expect
Starting point is 01:05:27 of it is these people being harassed, threatened. This is an implicit threat, if not an explicit one. And it doesn't demonstrate anything that helps make Zach's point. Right. No, no, I don't know if it just gives people targets. But I don't know if he's too stupid to not understand that it doesn't make his point. I think that's entirely possible. It's possible that he didn't put like screenshots of these people's social
Starting point is 01:05:51 media accounts in there in order to target them. Right. But if Project Veritas had even a kernel of respectability, then they would have gone in and wiped out people's names before releasing this publicly because they have every reason to understand the possible ramifications of this. Yeah, so considering they should be in jail a few times over now. Right. Yeah, they of course understand. So this is the other piece of information that he's bringing to the table.
Starting point is 01:06:18 This Hillary Isis email example that's in one of the documents. Right. Not good. These are the pieces of evidence that he's bringing up. This stinks. WikiLeaks email proves Hillary knew of horse sheriff that dresses up like Master Vigilante carrying guitar. Now, why do they say that? Why are they? Yeah, what bullshit is coming here?
Starting point is 01:06:41 And again, even if the conclusion that Hillary did sell weapons to terrorists, right, even if that's true, these stories are still. It doesn't prove it because it doesn't exist. And thus the stories are fake. Right. It doesn't matter what the conclusion is. Things have to be objectively real. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:02 So in this next clip, we get to another piece of information that Zach has a proof. I don't even know if this one is fucking in his documents. It's just some little magic trick that you can do. Wait, what? If you fold a hundred dollar bill the right way, you can see that Hillary killed everybody. It's not far off. God, I hate these people so much.
Starting point is 01:07:23 And so the way that Google was able to influence the election is that they were deleting the search prediction results when people were trying to find information about Hillary Clinton. Now, the thing is, is that a lot of people went on and, you know, what we're searching for the Clinton body count because there's a lot of people that have died, you know, related to Hillary Clinton.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Uh oh. So his argument seems to be that they swayed the election because Google didn't allow the autofill suggestion for when you type in Hillary Clinton to be Hillary Clinton body count. Right. Right. They took that out of the suggestions. I imagine or at least hope that Hillary Clinton, uh, big tits was removed from the autofill.
Starting point is 01:08:12 Hillary Clinton feet. Yeah. Hillary Clinton body count you can search, but it pulls up pictures of iced tea with. I like it. I like it. So before we get into this, I want to say that I do think generally speaking that this, you know, it could be, it could get way out of hand for a media company to hide negative stories about a particular political figure, regardless of their political affiliation or ideology. I think that's something to keep in mind.
Starting point is 01:08:36 And if there's ever a serious example of that, I would give it some serious thought about what side I want to lay my cards on, my chips. Yeah. However, this is not an instance of that. I'm perfectly fine with a company like Google eliminating baseless and dangerous conspiracy shit from their suggested search function. Yeah. It's not like you can't just type in Clinton body count and get a ton of fucked up
Starting point is 01:08:56 stupid results. It's just that if you type in Clinton, the Google doesn't then suggest, did you mean Clinton body count? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the Clinton body count meme started back in 1993 when a conspiracy theorist named Linda Thompson made a list of people near the Clintons who had died under suspicious circumstances with a heavy insinuation that they were murdered. She had zero evidence of anything, just a desire to derail the Clintons, probably because she was a militia lunatic who had declared herself the quote
Starting point is 01:09:23 acting adjutant general of the unorganized militias of the United States. Why is it that these people are winning? I don't like that these people are winning over the rest of us right now. She planned to bumming me out. She planned a 1994 march on Washington where all militias would converge and arrest Congress. Boy, that sure sounds more like a revolution, doesn't it? We all remember.
Starting point is 01:09:45 We all remember in 1994 when Congress got arrested. Nope, because it didn't happen. Citizens arrest. Even the John Birch Society decried those plans as crazy. So she canceled her march. Thompson, she also made the incredibly inaccurate film Waco, The Big Lie, which I know I've heard Alex bring up before. It's full of misrepresentations and some of the footage has even been accused of
Starting point is 01:10:06 being actually manipulated, but that didn't stop the film from being entered into evidence as part of Timothy McVeigh's defense in his Oklahoma City trial. Love it. Bombing trial. Yes. Come on, give me more of this lunacy. So Linda sent her list of suspicious Clinton deaths to then representative William Danemeyer, who took the ball and ran with it, even adding entries to the list.
Starting point is 01:10:27 It should be pointed out that William Danemeyer, though a former representative, is a completely insane and shitty person. He wrote a post for TakeBackOurRights.org, entitled, quote, Now the government can legally kill Christians, which reads like your grandmother's least coherent chain email. Here are some choice passages. Let's hear it. Quote, Your U.S.
Starting point is 01:10:47 government can now legally kill Christians for the crime of worshiping Jesus Christ exclamation point. Stop right there. We've got some edits to go through here. OK, who are you talking to first? When you say your Americans, Christians. Now, when you're constructing a sentence, specifically one like this, don't start with your government and then a run on sentence that doesn't make any
Starting point is 01:11:09 sense with an exclamation. But what about when you get one exclamation? What about the announcer in a novel, let alone a blog post, sir? What about that? But the starting the your is good because it's like the announcement being like your New York. No, no, that is not how it works. It's fine.
Starting point is 01:11:25 A diabolic deception has been perpetrated on the American people by their own leaders, all capitalized for own their own leaders, senators, congressmen, who have sold their soul to the devil. Wait, so you were just talking to your government, suggesting you were talking to people. Now, who are you talking to with this there? I don't know. It shifts person. He alleges that George H.W.
Starting point is 01:11:44 Bush signed a law that, quote, forces the American people to be bound by a set of monstrous rules called the Noahide laws, rules that make the belief in Jesus Christ a crime punishable by decapitation by guillotine exclamation point. Do we even have those? If that word Noahide in there worries you, hold on to those thoughts. OK. The article explains that a bill called Education Day USA, which was named that so no one would get suspicious, sneakily added in language that recognizes the,
Starting point is 01:12:12 quote, 89th birthday of Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson. Stay with me. You see, there was a hidden in that bill that had new laws that make it totally cool to Christians, just to kill Christians, just for being Christian. But of course, that would never pass if it were voted on by the house. Right, right. No, I, I would hope. But I think we're about to hear a very familiar story. OK. Quote, on the day this resolution was.
Starting point is 01:12:40 No, three people did not fucking do the fed. I promise you, it's not that. OK. Quote, on the day this resolution was passed, passed in quotes, the entire membership of the House of Representatives had already been dismissed after having been told that the day's work, including the voting, was over. We could all go home. It was then after virtually all the members had left that the traitorous
Starting point is 01:13:00 authors of this resolution brought it up for a vote on the House floor with only four handpicked members. There we go. All right. All right. Whoa, whoa, I'm sorry. I told you it wasn't my bad, my bad for my bad. Yeah. So this bill eventually became public law 102 dash 14. And it is true that there's not a vote total recorded for it, but that's just probably because it passed without objection.
Starting point is 01:13:23 That doesn't mean that four people voted on it and they just said good enough. I mean, for one, the bill had 225 co-sponsors. So you'd assume that kind of bill would never actually come to a vote. There are only 435 members of the House. So if a bill has 225 co-sponsors, it's never not going to pass. I don't understand. What if there is a surprise twist at the end? Right. Why not do some professional wrestling shit and just
Starting point is 01:13:46 come down and be like, and I vote against it. Right. William Dan Meyer comes down, just starts giving out all the Congress people's stunts. Why not? Dan Meyer has parted the Rancy. Anyway, back to crazy Williams Jane email. Yeah, sure. His argument is that because Rabbi Schneerson's organization follows the seven Noaheid laws and this resolution recognizes them and calls for the world to return to the ethics promoted by those
Starting point is 01:14:13 laws, which I should point out is a meaningless symbolic thing to be in there as language. The U.S. is now under these Jewish laws. And the punishment for breaking any of these laws is decapitation. One problem with this is that it's stupid. Another is that no historical source exists that contains an instance of a non-Jew being executed for breaking Noaheid laws. So it's kind of stupid. Do these people just believe in, I mean, no, they do, of course.
Starting point is 01:14:38 They all just believe in magic. They all just believe in magic, in narrative magic that makes sense so long as magic is real. Yeah. There's no way that you could possibly think that the government could just sneak in mass murder and with no consequence. Right. Or even if they did it one time, maybe they did sneak it in there and they did it one time and everybody was like,
Starting point is 01:15:02 whoa, whoa, whoa, that was legal. We're going to have to revisit this. It's not like Congress would be like, eh, we can't go back anymore. I would say that what William Danemeyer should do is test his theory by killing a Christian for being Christian and seeing how that goes for it. It seems like it would work easily because he's protected under the law. Public law 102-14 says that we're under Noaheid laws. OK, now I understand he can't do it because, of course, we're under Noaheid
Starting point is 01:15:29 laws. Well, he could convert, right, to Judaism. And then, you know what, maybe he just needs people to kill him. No, he's already died. Then he could, he's passed away. All right. So if you read the seven Noaheid laws, it's basically very similar to the Ten Commandments and William's big beef seems to be that the Ten Commandments were written by God, whereas these seven were written by humans.
Starting point is 01:15:51 He explicitly says that that is a problem. He explicitly says that that's a problem. Yes. Boy, I really don't want him to learn about all kinds of stuff. This is an argument being made by a member of Congress in the 90s. Yes. The bar has always been low. Yeah. Oh, no, no, absolutely. At this point, things go a little bit off the rails for crazy William. Oh, at this point. Yes.
Starting point is 01:16:10 Okay. Quote, Jews, who by their financial contributions to members of Congress, claim they control what Congress will or will not do. All right, look at the recent history of US politics confirms this. No American should underestimate the ferocity of the commitment to, of the Zionist Jews to control the entire political system of the world through the one world government now being created. Weird. Huh. That kind of sounds like what Google whistleblower,
Starting point is 01:16:34 Zach Voorhees believes. All right. I'm going to need you to rewrite that sentence one more time. Again, run on sentences are a good stylistic thing sometimes, but Mr. No, Mr. Oh, I almost said no, I'd, oh, I'm going to kill you. Because it's fine if you're a Christian or whatever. This is protocol shit, man. Oh, anti-Semitic garbage, but in a various Jewish plot to take over the world and destroy Christianity.
Starting point is 01:16:56 So if you're keeping score, the Clinton body count story is the product of that guy and a lady who declared herself lawyer of a fake universal militia and decided she wanted to arrest Congress over the years. Periodically, people have debunked the specific people included on that list, but it doesn't matter. Like they debunk the idea that these are suspicious deaths. I'm all for Google not suggesting this as a search result that you might be
Starting point is 01:17:19 looking for because it's bullshit. Yeah. It's a, it's a path down a radicalizing road. Yeah. And I think that it is a responsible thing for the society to recognize things like that and like, well, you can look for it. But we're not going to help you find it. Yeah. Same thing with like, you know, you, YouTube's algorithm has led so many people into those rabbit holes. Right. And if you type like Holocaust into Google, that didn't happen.
Starting point is 01:17:46 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, things like that are entry points down a really bad road. And you don't need to help people go down those roads. That's my position on it. I don't know. I assume Holocaust, if you think that I'm some sort of a anti-free speech guy for that, I never thought that I would see this day, Dan, the day that you gave up on Holocaust, did it happen?
Starting point is 01:18:12 I mean, I'm not, I'm not mad that like, if you type in Alex Jones, the suggestion isn't killed his dog. Yeah. Yeah. And even if like, let's say we started to really try and make a move, right? Posted a bunch of content about it, really pushed the, like a hashtag SEO to the fuck right, even if you did that. And then Google was like, you don't have any evidence that he killed his dog. We're going to eliminate that from search.
Starting point is 01:18:36 I wouldn't be like, well, that's censorship. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. Of course, yeah, I'm mad. It took you this long. That should be a suggestion. We were fucking with you the whole time. So I don't know.
Starting point is 01:18:49 Anyway, Zach refines his, his idea about this, about the elimination of the Clinton body count thing. And he, he makes his point a little clearer in this next clip. That information is out there. It's been cataloged. People can, we're able to find it. But what was happening is that when people would go and try to type in like Hillary Clinton body count, Google, the Google search prediction was shut off.
Starting point is 01:19:15 And, and the thing is, is that if you went and search for example, Trump body count, that search result prediction was suggested to the user. But part of that is because there hasn't been a 26 year long fraudulent propaganda campaign against Trump based on a body count. Right. So they're completely unanalogous situations. If there were, like, let's say for 26 years, people had been putting forth this bullshit list of people near Trump who had died, who they're like,
Starting point is 01:19:48 we maybe he did it. Right. Right. Right. Then I would be like, yes, absolutely. That should not be in the suggested search results. That if it were, like if in those circumstances it were and Hillary's weren't, then he's got a good argument.
Starting point is 01:20:01 Right. But they're completely different things. So. Yeah. Fuck off. That is, but it's so pathetic. This guy is so pathetic. I don't like it.
Starting point is 01:20:12 I like it when we're dealing with the evil on the stupid evil continuum. This is just really stupid. This is too stupid. Yeah. This is so stupid that you're evil. Like it's very, very, it's very, very stupid. Yeah. So Zach is trying to have Alex bring up his medium page, like his blog.
Starting point is 01:20:30 Sure. Because he's got information on there. Sure. And this made me not getting a lot of claps. Zach, this made me laugh pretty hard because I know what Alex is doing, but Zach doesn't. We're back in two minutes. Can continue.
Starting point is 01:20:44 And we're going to the phone calls as you walk through this. Hey, this great guy, Zach, where he's just showed up today. He's like doing all these presentations. So it's powerful. He'll be back tomorrow too. We'll be more prepared. You got to come in here with the hour before the show. It's all exactly what you want.
Starting point is 01:20:59 It's a cruise great. Give everything you want. They'll have it. Yep. It's, it's like medium. Lock this out. That's what we're in. It will show the medium version too bad.
Starting point is 01:21:05 It's okay. But we got it on info wars.com. We'll be right back. Our number four straight. Do you understand what happened? Oh, oh, that was beautiful. Do you understand what he's doing? Oh, that was beautiful.
Starting point is 01:21:15 Oh, no, no, no, we're not going to link to your page. No, no, no, no, no, but you can come to info wars.com. All over there. Well, everybody, we're going to put up a link to, we're going to put up a link to your site on info wars.com. We love your information, but if it isn't bringing in people to my very desperate, uh, get the fuck out of here. Google douchebag.
Starting point is 01:21:38 It's so, it's so transparent. Yeah. Ridiculous. So Alex also has a sale going on. Sure. There's a new sale Easter. The save info wars sale has ended right now. There's info where it saves you sale has begun.
Starting point is 01:21:52 The banniversary sale was after that. Right. And now we have the America awakens sale, which is 1488 2.0. Alex, I don't, I didn't get a clip of this. I wish I had, but Alex explains it and it's just basically all the same specials, but he's like, it's not on everything. It's just on some stuff. So it's a war.
Starting point is 01:22:15 We can't afford to do that special anymore. It's so this one's slightly less special. Well, some things aren't included. It's the same 50 to 60% off free shipping and double Patriot points, just not on some things. Right. It's like, wow, you're really selling this new special, but it's just a decreasing of the sale.
Starting point is 01:22:32 I like turning that into a positive. Yeah. So Alex goes to commercial and he comes back and they play a compilation of him talking about how like Silicon Valley people are on drugs. Right. And now while Zach is right next to him. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:47 Okay. Okay. Good. All right. I don't know if they were, I don't know what they were doing during the break or when this special report is playing, but I have this minute long clip here and Mike down for this. Okay.
Starting point is 01:22:57 Because I need you to pay close attention and recognize that I didn't make this compilation. They did. This sounds like a parody. Okay. This sounds like something somebody would make if they were making fun of Alex. Okay.
Starting point is 01:23:09 You know, as somebody's on drugs, they admit Silicon Valley is into hardcore speed and illusions. They're taking Ivy drips at work of DMT. They're taking LSD micro doses and it's still the side of mushrooms and peyote every day. Who in the hell would want to join with these people? I've seen people take like three hits of acid in their eyes. Aren't they big?
Starting point is 01:23:29 What the hell are they on? And one of the crew members said maybe they've already got this whole neuro link wires hooks in their brain because this PKD pointed out Philip K Dick back in the seventies. The cyberpunk future is where you can get any type of pleasure you want. Just plug in, but no one wants to even get up or eat for weeks or days.
Starting point is 01:23:44 You just die because you just plug all this in and it's the matrix. And now the matrix is here and you look at Tim Cook or Elon Musk or any of his executives when they're up there on that stage, they'll be under white lights. Their pupils are 90% open. Zuckerberg, all of them. These people either have brain chips.
Starting point is 01:24:01 That's it. These guys are wire heads. Something's going on. I'm in here underneath bright lights and my pupils are very little and zoom in if you can. My pupils are tiny because I'm not on drugs. I've had two cups of coffee today. So here, let me show you my pupils.
Starting point is 01:24:16 Okay. This is crazy. That sounds exactly like a guy who is incredibly hot. Yeah. Also a sighting. Philip K. Dick. Yeah, that dude was on a lot of drugs. I just man, I'll tell you what's going on, man.
Starting point is 01:24:32 I'll tell you what's fucking going on. They're all doing drugs. Look at my pupils. My pupils are fine. I only have a couple of cups of coffee. Look who comes to call me. That's it. That's all I'm fucking at.
Starting point is 01:24:40 Nothing. There may be no drugs. Maybe they're wire heads. Maybe they're high. They think I'm brain chip. Oh, they're all dying. I mean, I listened to that. I was like, he's someone inside fucking with him.
Starting point is 01:24:51 Somebody is fucking with us. I don't know. I thought that was hilarious. Like it's incredible. Yeah. It's either Alex leaning into a recognition that these are the only kinds of things that get attention for him outside of his already established audience.
Starting point is 01:25:05 Right. Like these memes that are kind of making fun of him. Yeah. Yeah. And maybe he's trying to lean into that and like, oh, people laugh at me for this. Maybe it'll get me traffic. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:14 I'm not sure, but whatever it is. It's, it's sad. It makes me very sad. Man, if that's done with the straight face, they should really, really rethink everything about them. Holy shit. How are they doing in Hong Kong right now? No, no, they do check back in, but it's again, like another 20 second thing.
Starting point is 01:25:29 That's fantastic. Like it may have 20 seconds, but it's very short and there's not really any. Certainly no exclusives. No. And yeah, just sort of leave it alone. Also, I should point out, I have not cut out like mentions of Trump's shit. No. He just has not brought it up.
Starting point is 01:25:46 Nothing. No, nothing. Not a single mention. Okay. I like it. But he does declare that it's time to start arresting people. Okay. They're moving.
Starting point is 01:25:57 They're not giving up. So what do you do in a crisis like that? I think it's a national security issue. As Peter Thiel has said, they're in bad with China. So is Apple. I think you have to arrest a leadership or let them steal the election. And they've got the Washington Post saying China will crush Trump. Hi, I'm Dan Pilla.
Starting point is 01:26:12 I started fighting the IRS over 40 years ago. And they're great timing. So he wants a tech executives arrested unilaterally. And he's citing this Washington Post opinion. However you got to get there, I'm fine with that. Sure. I'm cool with that. I'm not.
Starting point is 01:26:27 No. I'm not arrest of everybody. No, no, no, they probably have it coming. Well, that remains to be seen. Yeah. So I think Zach is dumb. And I think I've made some decent arguments to that extent. I think history will bear you out.
Starting point is 01:26:45 Yeah, I think he's also crazy. Yeah, as indicated by this next clip. You'll see a lot of politicians, a lot of people like open their eyes and just continue to talk. And it's a good technique in order to deceive like people. Like I'm kind of doing it like right now. So camera four, it's over there. Can't camera four.
Starting point is 01:27:02 Okay. So, you know, if I'm, if I'm wanting to tell you a lie, then I'm going to open up my eyes real wide and I'm just going to talk to you. And you're going to get locked into a trance. And one of the key things is that you don't want to blink. So he's trying to hypnotize the audience by staring into the camera. This is silly. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:27:20 Now what you do is you open up your eyes and you don't stop talking to it. And look at me. I'm talking to you. Well, but you're in a trance. It is, it is a pleasure to meet you, President Mesmer. Well, you got me. You got me. That's a weird angle for a direction for this show to go in.
Starting point is 01:27:39 The two of them have failed to demonstrate to a critical observer in any way. You weren't listening to the parts where they did it. Okay. I was listening. You would have been listening, but you were hypnotized. Oh, that might have been it. Duh. So they get into talking about fluoride being bad for you, which has to do with
Starting point is 01:27:58 Google for sure. And oh, I guess they kind of jumped onto this because they're saying that Google is blocking like a real health information, which I assume is somehow some sort of a defensive Mike Adams. Sure. Sure. Why not? Whatever.
Starting point is 01:28:11 Throw all your lies in there at once, make it a nice big stew. Yeah. So Google's blocking Mike Adams and they get onto real health information. And then they talk about, uh, Zach brings up a study about fluoride that he thinks is real good stuff. And there's a lot of research internationally showing that fluoride lowers the IQ of particularly males. And now it's like, okay.
Starting point is 01:28:36 Well, the, the, I think the journal of pediatric pediatrics or something somewhat to that released a study saying that, yeah, like for each milligram of fluoride found in the pregnant mom's urine, it like lowered the IQ by a certain amount. And they tested this and they found that it was true. And it's like, duh, this happens in like every single animal. So, uh, first thing to point out, it's clear that Zach has not really read this study or dug into it. It sounds like you read it all.
Starting point is 01:29:04 That sounds like he read it from start to finish a certain amount of IQ or something. Yeah, no, at best, as best I can tell, I think he just heard that there was a study that involved IQ, fluoride and P and it was just bluffing the rest. I'm guessing that's what's happening. So this was a study that was published in the journal of the American Medical Association, pediatrics. And it's important to point out that it is a, it's very, very explicit in the study that this is no way a demonstration of a causal link between consumption
Starting point is 01:29:31 fluoride during pregnancy and lowered IQ of the child. All it does is indicate a possible association. Now, a couple of problems with this study that aren't actually problems with the study, but they're problems for the conclusion that Alex and Zach are derived. The first is that only 85.2% of the parent child pairs had urine analysis done to actually solidify what their fluoride levels were. For a lot of the rest of the data, they used questionnaires and made estimates based on the level of fluoride in the water in a given city.
Starting point is 01:30:00 And the study even says, quote, for this study, we develop methods to estimate and calculate, calculate fluoride intake that have not yet been validated. So they didn't like compare those methods results with say the actual. They did. There, there were, there was some indications of between the urine tests and these, uh, the questionnaires and estimates that they ran similar. Okay. That's good.
Starting point is 01:30:24 Which is cool. No, that is good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But also these methods have not been validated. By their own language, these methods have not been validated and they may eventually be validated, but at this point, a line like that needs to cause pause. Right. The second is that the study itself points out that fluoride has a very short
Starting point is 01:30:43 half-life of around five hours. So testing it in someone's urine can be a kind of tricky thing. It could be thrown off by like brushing your teeth an hour before the test. For instance, it's, it's not necessarily the best way to figure out what a consistent level of fluoride. Right. In your system would be the study also explicitly says, quote, this observational study design could not address the possibility of other unmeasured
Starting point is 01:31:07 residual confounding, which is to say that there are a ton of factors they couldn't control for that might have influenced the results. This isn't a knock on the study in any way, since the conclusion is just that the observational study founded possible association and it should and could be studied more. The problem is when people like Alex and Zach take the study like this and overexaggerate its conclusion as proof that low amounts of fluoride lower IQ, right, which Alex or Zach is explicitly saying, yes, he's saying that this taking
Starting point is 01:31:36 fluoride cost it and they discovered and they proved it. Yeah, which is not true. Right. You can have conversations about all this stuff. Right. You just can't lie about it, which is what they're doing. Yes. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:31:47 Now, the final problem is that the IQ tests for the children were given between the ages when they were between the ages of three and four. Well, it's certainly not unheard of as a thing to do. I've found a number of resources that caution against IQ testing children this young. The children may not be able to focus on the test adequately and that can produce an unreliable result. Plus there are tons of examples of people's IQ fluctuating quite a bit over the years.
Starting point is 01:32:10 Now they say that tests are supposed to be designed to produce a consistent result within plus or minus five points, but that's not always the case. And the younger the child is when they're tested, the more likely it is that they're going to get an unreliable test result. This would be more compelling if the children were 10, let's say. But again, that's not disqualifying for the study. It's just a caveat for why this isn't necessarily proof of anything. Just a study that says that more studying is required.
Starting point is 01:32:36 And, you know, these are all things that are in the study itself. Like there's sections in these studies of limitations of the study. Yeah. Here are the reasons why there are possible issues with what we're putting forth and why we can't make it to a determinative conclusion. Right. So we're not, we're not trying to prove anything. We're, we're trying to get almost like a divining rod out there that's going to
Starting point is 01:32:59 say this area is going to narrow down what we should be studying on it. As opposed to we're trying to prove that fluoride does anything. We're simply trying to factor in as many variables as we possibly can to point to whether or not we do need to study more of this. Well, if this study is, you know, followed up on and people do more studies that control for the variables that were uncontrolled in this and we do find some indication that there is a link between fluoride and diminished IQ and children, then cool.
Starting point is 01:33:35 Well, yeah, then you, then you learn something, right? Prove something and now we can control for that. Right. And that's fine. That's just not established. Nope. So anyway, we're done with the 21st. Zach, go to hell.
Starting point is 01:33:46 Zach was, uh, Zach was a hero. Absolutely. Zach, uh, the MVP of this episode. Sure. So we didn't get any talk about Trump being the chosen one, which again is because it probably happened while Alex was on air and he doesn't care about anything. Yeah. He didn't get any talk about the Jews being disloyal.
Starting point is 01:34:05 We didn't get any talk about the second coming of God kind of shit. We got more talk from people in Hong Kong who weren't allowed to speak. Yes. Gotcha. So we get into Thursday, the 22nd, and Alex jumps into the show and makes up for it by finally, he, I think he realized like, I can probably ignore the Jews or disloyal thing. I could probably ignore that, but one chosen one.
Starting point is 01:34:30 Shit. You can't kind of, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta confront the chosen one. So Alex does even Eddie Murphy knows that Trump is our champion. Trump is delivering. And what you just heard is the truth. It's so refreshing to hear a statesman in office telling it like it is and straight shooting 73 years old, never seen anything like it. The precision, the commitment.
Starting point is 01:34:58 Yes, Trump is the chosen one. We're all chosen to fulfill our destinies. If we choose to take those destinies in our hands, a Trump is delivering the country out of the globalist bondage and they're fighting like the devil to keep their entire system in place right now. Good, good take, good take, Alex. All right, I, I'm going to give it to him just like I would the Somali pirates turning, turning Trump saying that he's a chosen one into it's good to finally
Starting point is 01:35:35 see a statesman in office telling it like it is that is, that is a, that is mental gymnastics. Simone Biles could never touch. Well, but again, I mean, it's like it was referencing at the beginning of the show, like an argument could be made that, you know, you're saying I'm the chosen one to take on China, but that has to eliminate all prior context. Yeah, it has to take out of context. The fact that he put his hands out and looked up to the sky while saying I'm
Starting point is 01:36:02 the chosen one, there's, there's too much surrounding this to allow that kind of a dodge. Yeah. And I'm not going to allow Alex to make that good. God, no, that's, that's sad. That's sad and hilarious. Yeah. So then Alex gets into the dual loyalty idea.
Starting point is 01:36:20 Here we go. Um, and this isn't good. Devil down. This isn't good either. And so Trump says, man, these Jews sure are betraying Israel. Look, look, working with people like to leave and everybody that literally want to blow it off the face of the earth. Really not good.
Starting point is 01:36:36 Turn that around. Did you hear the anti-Semitic statement? So support for Israel. And it's, it's now anti-Semitic. This is upside down world. And then you've got the extreme right and extreme left that are really the same people, obsessing over Israel constantly and in applying mythical leprechaun powers to Israel and then acting like Netanyahu runs the world.
Starting point is 01:37:01 Meanwhile, it's the Rothschilds who are globalist leftist Jews who are now trying to overthrow Netanyahu. What? I mean, you cannot make the show. It's not Netanyahu and Israel. It's not those Jews. It's this other Jews. People ascribe mythical powers to guys like Netanyahu saying they run the world.
Starting point is 01:37:22 That's stupid. They should be ascribing mythical powers to the fucking Rothschilds who are liberal Jews. Jesus, we're what fucking we're going to die. We're so going to die. This is so nuts. This is insane. So Brian Kilmeade is going to say this tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:37:37 So I think you can get the sense of what's going on is that Alex has to paint the idea that Tlaib is advocating for the end of Israel, calling for its destruction as opposed to critiquing the government being horribly repressive against the Palestinians. Well, at the same time, turning that into jangly keys so you don't stop and think too hard about, wait, did Trump say he was the chosen one? Totally. You need to attack her in order to cover for the fucked up things Trump did.
Starting point is 01:38:05 Yeah, yeah, don't talk about Trump stuff. We got this. What about he is the chosen one in the same way? We are all the chosen one anyways. Did you know that liberals are actually eating your baby's faces right now? Are you looking at your baby's face? Cause an invisible liberal liberal is eating it right now. Sure.
Starting point is 01:38:22 So in order to achieve his ends, Alex has to get really fucking mad about Rashida Tlaib's press conference where she and Ilhan Omar came out and talked about the not being allowed to go on their fact-finding mission. Because Israel is great. Alex is like, get ready. This is really bad. But the way Alex carries himself is. I mean, I don't know how else to say it.
Starting point is 01:38:50 It's really, really bad. Okay. And I'm sick of it. And the same playbook being run against Israel about open your borders, let everybody in to have free stuff. He's being run against us. You know, I sat there in the break room. I was at Monday evening and went with my mouth hanging up.
Starting point is 01:39:06 And during that press conference with the four horsemen of the Democratic apocalypse, crying and whining. And, and oh, my mother needed to hospital. She was in Palestine or my grandmother and they wouldn't let her in for free healthcare. So you want to blow the country up. And then, but it's got to give you some free stuff. But then in your wonderful Palestinian place, you can't even put two
Starting point is 01:39:34 and two together and you basically live in a dictatorship. So, um, I don't, I don't, I watched the speech that she gave. I didn't hear her say that free healthcare was verbatim. I didn't hear that. I want, I want, uh, Israel to take in my grandmother. So she gets free things. You weren't listening. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:39:53 And I didn't hear any call to blow up Israel. I don't think that the people who that's because she widened her eyes a little bit and looked directly into the camera. I do. Oh, I have some missing time. Oh no. Duh. It's like contact.
Starting point is 01:40:05 You're the Jody Foster of this, uh, this little experiment here. Yeah. So Alex is invalidating arguments, uh, surrounding Palestinian rights. Absolutely. A hundred percent. Oh yeah. Um, but he goes further in this next clip and basically invalidates their existence.
Starting point is 01:40:22 And then Saudi Arabia won't take one of you in and Jordan won't take you in and Egypt won't take you in. And why is that? Because every time you look at who's starting these rebellions and these attacks, it's Palestinian because they don't even exist. Folks, they're just people that migrated into that area. I want to take it over. It's just, it's a made up thing.
Starting point is 01:40:46 And so everybody's tried to bully me to attack Israel and tried to bully me. No, I'm going to support Israel now more because you tell me I can't. That's so childish. That is incredibly. So for the record, the Palestinian diaspora, uh, extends to many countries that Alex is pretending don't allow in any Palestinians. He's just making shit up to support his own xenophobic and completely racist worldview. Alex's argument, the Palestinians aren't even a real thing is a shameful
Starting point is 01:41:13 display of rhetoric that leads very easily to dehumanization and exterminationist arguments. And it's not something I'm even going to dignify with a response that is insane. That is literally insane. Yeah. So in this next clip, Alex, uh, insists that, uh, uh, Rashida is fake crying. Uh, while she's talking about, uh, this is just bad. This is real bad.
Starting point is 01:41:38 And I've got all these subbies to get into, but I've got a lot of news out of Israel, but I just think about to leave home on her grandmother. I never got to the clip. We're going to play it later. And she's crying and it's so fake. And Israel is just a way to see this picture, a Rosetta stone, a skeleton key, as I call it, because it's the left. Their religion is that they're victims.
Starting point is 01:41:58 It's like all these people that attempt suicide constantly for attention. What? It's one thing we got bone cancer and you're in incredible pain. You don't want to spend all your money, all your family's money on it. And don't want to, you know, go through all the pain. You shove a gun in your mouth and blow your head off. Hey, that's your life. It's, you know, I don't judge you.
Starting point is 01:42:14 I understand that, but all these people that constantly are attempting suicide and constantly whining about what victims they are. And I look at the four horsemen, these parasites that hate America and tell us how bad we are all day. And then fetishize saying Israel shouldn't exist. And then when Israel doesn't let her in, she whines and cries about her grandmother and how her grandmother deserves all this free healthcare that she thinks is in Israel. And again, Israel is just a microcosm of all of this.
Starting point is 01:42:47 What? And the point is there's a fight over who controls Israel. That was the point controls America. There's a fight over who controls Europe. And it's not a fight between Germans and Jews or between Mexicans and Russians or between Chinese and Japanese. It's a fight between evil and good. In your family, it's a fight between good and evil.
Starting point is 01:43:10 What? In your relationships, in your business, in your life, at your church, there's a struggle in the universe between good and evil. If your people don't agree with my crazy bullshit that I'm spreading, you're evil. Now, also, I mean, just all this stuff aside, like there's some comedy in the fact that Alex is talking about, like demeaning people who struggle with suicidal inclinations, like they just want attention and then
Starting point is 01:43:37 describing that to being what the behavior of the Democrats are. When you had fucking Count Dankula on your show. Wait, Carpe, talk to him on your show. Same person. He's had both of them. I don't care. When you have Carpe Dankum on talking about his link to copyrighted material that he stole, being blocked.
Starting point is 01:43:52 He's a victim. Right. This whole thing is like. Absolute victim. You can't, this is pathetic. But he's a real victim, Dan. And we're the libs and we're just trying to steal victimhood. From people like Carpe Dankum who deserve.
Starting point is 01:44:05 The dunk is getting, uh, wronged. Yeah. I mean, I don't even, I don't even know where to begin. We could begin with him calling these people parasites. We could, uh, no, I mean, it's just, it's almost like a lot of this stuff is, I feel like presenting with minimal commentary, um, except where necessary because this is just horrible shit that Alex is putting forth. Yeah, it needs to, because of how horrible the things Trump's saying are.
Starting point is 01:44:33 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. This is part of, I mean, this is stuff he believes. You're gonna be wrong. It's not, uh, it's not like you didn't know this. Well, it's a combination of like that. Also considering 10 years ago, Alex was firmly in favor of Palestinian rights. No, I can't.
Starting point is 01:44:48 No, we don't even need to know. No, no, no, no, we went, we, it's a really short walk from, I think, apartheid's bad too. They're not even people. Did you think about that? Did you think maybe they weren't even real, Dan? It's like that combination of his worldview being only able to see through his eyes. So he's always, he doesn't understand a good faith argument.
Starting point is 01:45:10 He doesn't understand that they could be real crying because he can't, he can't real cry, you know, he can only fake it. It's always performative for him. That's where it must be for everybody else. And then there's also that like, man, this is, this Trump shit is way too wild. I don't even know what to do other than invalidate an entire people. I think, I think part of it is he feels he has to do that because he knows he's also going to validate Trump's shit.
Starting point is 01:45:37 And in order to do that, you have to have something to the, I guess this would be the equivalent of like white supremacist sugar to help the medicine go down. And now we're recognizing Trump as God appointed, which he does in this next clip. Okay, great. And Trump says in his whole talk, I'm the chosen one. I got elected. He looks up and I'm, it's true.
Starting point is 01:45:57 I mean, obviously we're all chosen for what we do. If we take the path God gives us a path, the devil gives us another. Of course, Trump's chosen. It's a phenomenon and everybody can see it and smell it. And the devil and the enemies, the little snakes, they can't stand it. Let's go out to break with the president talking about being the chosen one and acknowledging God, that God chose to put him in that position against the enemy's whole operation.
Starting point is 01:46:24 That is God. That's really fucked up. He's a coward. The way he's presenting this. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. A little, a little bit. Can you imagine if during the ACA negotiations, Obama was like, God chose
Starting point is 01:46:41 me to help give everyone health care. Right. Can you imagine? Alex would make the same arguments that he was already making, but it would be based on something Obama had said. Yeah. Alex, Alex accused him of being like messianic. Yeah, that's crazy.
Starting point is 01:46:56 This is so disgraceful. Well, I mean, this is, G dubs did the same shit. Though, like he didn't go on the chosen one, but he did go, he did have the whole like, God put me in office to, to make sure that we bombed Iraq for the rest of our fucking lives. Yeah. And I think, I think that there was an acceptable, and I put that in quotes, yeah, like a socially acceptable version of having a belief in a purpose.
Starting point is 01:47:21 Right, right. As opposed to straight up messiah, we had a societal understanding of like the lengths that you can use that. And George Bush probably was on the wrong side of that line. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Um, but I, I, you know, like, Hey, you know, God put me on this earth to make this podcast kind of within the acceptable realm realm of cause we're living in a metaphor as opposed to a delusion of grandeur.
Starting point is 01:47:46 Right. Yeah. I wouldn't say that I'm the Joe, like, and especially when you're the quote unquote leader of the free world as opposed to like saying that I run a carpentry business or I'm a good father or I'm a run a podcast. Let me, let me put it to you this way. I would not declare myself the chosen one. Even though in the cult, I was literally the chosen one.
Starting point is 01:48:08 Oh yeah, there is that. You have some history. I'm the only one who literally has chosen one written on his fucking name. And I'm still not doing it. Yeah. You have, you have some experience in this story. I've been the chosen one for my whole life. Dan, Trump is just jumping out of my bag.
Starting point is 01:48:25 Come on. So, uh, Alex gets back to attacking, uh, the squad, uh, in this next clip. And, uh, the four horsemen of the apocalypse, apocalypse. And then you see Talibe, the leader of the fantastic rat pack. Wolf, Phillip, that, uh, whoa, man, that fell apart. And I love how he can claim that each one is the leader, whatever it serves his purpose. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:52 It's so great. Yeah. AOC has been in the background for a while. So Trump is like, she's jealous of attention. You're all fucking stupid. Also the rat pack were like ground breaking. Alcoholics. The rats that have left their sinking ships and then come here to perch
Starting point is 01:49:09 and bitch and tell us how much we suck all day so they can be victims and get more goodies. That's why you can't run your own countries because no one wants to build anything. You just want to run and killing each other because everybody has a right to rule. Instead of build what? And then we're told by these fallen, twisted individuals that we suck and we're bad because they know we've got those buttons to push and then we'll then grovel to them.
Starting point is 01:49:36 Oh, I see. That's how it goes. Is that how it goes? So Rashida Tlaib was, she is a Palestinian American, but she was born in fucking Detroit, right? AOC was born and she should go back to her country and tell them how to run it. She was, uh, Alexander Acasio Cortez was born in New York, uh, Presley was born in Cincinnati and Omar came here as a refugee when she was like 10 years old
Starting point is 01:49:56 as a citizen. See, then everything's fine. Alex is explicitly invalidating the American-ness of these women because they are people he sees as non-white who disagree with him, which is something he can't tolerate. Three of them were born here and the others are citizens. So when he tells them that they should be making their own countries better, that's exactly what they're trying to do in Congress.
Starting point is 01:50:15 Don't think too hard about it. Alex, uh, experiences that is an attack because, uh, there's a lot of problems that they're trying to address and bringing up about the country that revolve around the ideas of entrenched power hierarchies, which Alex will desperately cling to no matter what the cost. Then that idea that he's, he's bringing up to this idea of like, they're just, uh, they know that we have feelings, we have empathy that they're trying to exploit. I mean, can't you easily imagine him saying the exact same thing like during, um,
Starting point is 01:50:43 the end of slavery? Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Like, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You're, you're saying that, uh, these, these people are whipped and beaten and worked on the fields, but that's all you're doing is trying to appeal to my good, noble, white human emotions.
Starting point is 01:50:59 I don't want it. Look, look, this is God. Have you not read the Bible? The Bible says that we have to keep them where they are because that's where they belong. Look, I have just as much of a bleeding heart as any of you. What do you guys call yourselves? But that's why I want to maintain slavery.
Starting point is 01:51:15 Of course. It's in their best interest. It's exactly. I'm, that's because I'm so empathetic. I have to whip them in the civil rights area. You could imagine Alex being like, Oh, sure. You know, the, you know, there's, they want to have me and my friends hose them down.
Starting point is 01:51:32 So I'll feel bad for them. It's all their idea or the angle on that would be like, yeah, you're showing these pictures of people being hosed, uh, but that's just to tug at my heart strings, trying to exploit my good, uh, white empathy mechanisms in order to override whatever. I mean, this is just classic, uh, bullshit. Yeah. So this next clip is unhinged.
Starting point is 01:51:56 It's disgusting. And, uh, it's Alex trying to go over, uh, the press conference itself. The whole Middle East used to be Christian till Mohammed showed up. And then now you killed all the Christians and ran them out and I'm supposed to kiss your butt, lady. I'm not doing it. It's you that ought to pay reparations. What?
Starting point is 01:52:15 You want to say that if any white people ever, the Muslims still run slave trade, you wicked whore. Oh, no. God, oh my, that's, that's insulting whores. I apologize. The prostitutes. Oh, no, let's, let's, let's play this maggot, this, this engorged maggot bitching and complaining, a psychopath, a sociopath, bare minimum, trying to punch our
Starting point is 01:52:35 buttons because we have emotions. You big fat demon. Here she is. A young girl visiting Palestine to see my grandparents and extended family. I watched as my mother had to go to do humanizing checkpoints. How about dehumanizing suicide bombs? The United States citizen and proud American. I was there when my city was in a terrible car accident and my cousins and I
Starting point is 01:53:05 cried so she could have access to the best hospitals, which were in Jerusalem. I remember shaking with fear when checkpoints appeared in the small village of Beth Orylfoka. Oh, hit pause for a minute because they got a raw feed. When I was watching on Fox, it showed all the lunatic women up there, all these crazy leftist women that look like starving chicken neck birds or like something out of a Dr. Seuss children's book and they're all crying and putting on this big act.
Starting point is 01:53:35 So Alex has to interrupt there because she's getting into territory that's very close to a lot of his old rhetoric. Oh, yeah. The idea of checkpoints and, uh, oh, I don't know, uh, government oppression of people. Like that's the stuff that he's railed on for years. He can't allow that sort of, uh, thing to be presented on his show by someone who he is deeming a maggot and a parasite and all this because it's way too close to his lane.
Starting point is 01:54:05 Um, and you, you run the risk of listeners hearing her express this, uh, this sentiment and then think, huh, I think I'm against checkpoints, right? I remember vaguely being against check. Now, what she's describing is exactly the sort of tyranny that my hero, Alex Jones, has been screaming about, wait, wait a second. Hold on. Well, Rashida is saying that there was a government that was oppressing her, a
Starting point is 01:54:36 minority of people, uh, through, through tyrannical tactics, checkpoints, and constant oppression. And I'm, and she's a bad guy. Yes. Oh, okay. Well, then nevermind. That's what's being, uh, that, uh, I think that Alex recognizes that there is a danger in presenting this without interruption, without pre priming the pump
Starting point is 01:55:03 in terms of how evil, uh, he thinks, uh, Rashida is it's, it's a disgusting display. It's like, uh, it's like when a Somalia is like going through the list of things that you're supposed to taste and a way to influence you to actually taste those. So Alex is screaming about how she's a maggot and, uh, uh, uh, all of the other bullshit. So you can see instead of a human being expressing the very tyrannical government that you're supposed to be against, uh, acting against her. Instead you see a flaming demon monster tugging upon your heartstrings.
Starting point is 01:55:40 Right. And his, his arguments too, just about like, uh, what about truck bombs or like, what about suicide bomb? Like, well, okay. But your whole thing was about like this tyranny that's going to come to America and you're, you're guys are going to get targeted because of a big bombing. The Oklahoma city bombing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:59 Like you, well, those weren't false flags. They, white people didn't do it. Fair enough. There you go. So, uh, in this next club, Alex seems to be imagining that the idea that, uh, people like, uh, Tlaib and, uh, everybody else is putting forth is that Muslims have never done anything bad when that's not the discussion at all. He's creating a straw man version of that in order to attack that as if
Starting point is 01:56:22 that's the real position naturally. But the, just the way it's all, oh, black and white and, oh, the Muslims, they never hurt nobody. And I saw articles out your state fact checkers are going to stop people claiming Islam is behind terror. Because remember Obama said that's not Islam. How the hell did it expand then in 1400 years to take over half the planet playing, playing tiddlywigs.
Starting point is 01:56:45 They can overran all those other empires and things as it was friendly. You want to talk about, I was going to say, hold on one second, dude, talk about the expansion of Christianity. I mean, even on our last episode, we're talking about the overthrow of the monarchy in Hawaii. The missionaries were very much involved in that incredibly important. And that's a low bar, uh, example. That's a, uh, a, uh, a smaller example of, uh, the ways in which Christianity
Starting point is 01:57:13 was used in colonialism. I suppose he, that's a, also a tacit, a, a, uh, agreement that Christianity did it the same way, right? No, he's trying to obscure that Christianity only spread nobly and Muslims, uh, in Islam spread. Strictly by, okay, so once again, we're in good versus evil, good spreads organically throughout and the evil is Islam. And they, man, this whole good versus evil thing, we should really stop it.
Starting point is 01:57:44 It's a funky dichotomy. We got to get rid of that shit. So Alex in this next clip, uh, I don't know, just talking shit. It's the same branding, the same crap by a whiny parasite. And I'm done bowing to you and the democratic party. Let's go back to her. I remember visiting East Jerusalem with my then husband and him escorted, escorted off the bus, although he was a United States citizen.
Starting point is 01:58:11 Just so security forces could harass him. Okay, let's stop again. Oh, you want to overthrow Israel? You stage all these events and then you can't believe that when you drive in from the West Bank, that we're suicide bombers attack routinely and people are stabbed to death on a weekly basis and shot. You can't believe anybody at their borders checking you. Meanwhile, as a U S citizen, I have to have my balls grabbed because they
Starting point is 01:58:39 won't profile Islamists when I go to the stupid airport because the Muslims have been hijacking aircraft for 60 damn years, which I get to live in a police state because the globalist have let you run wild on purpose. And Trump is trying to do something about it and end all these wars and stop stirring you up. That's insane. Um, okay. So she described living in a police state.
Starting point is 01:59:09 Right. He agreed with the police state, right, then said that he has to live in a police state, right? Because the police state isn't correctly policing. I guess. Yes. Yeah. He's mad that most of them here aren't, aren't living in a police state.
Starting point is 01:59:31 Yes. I think that's, I think that's how you diagram that sentence, right? Yeah. And I think it falls entirely in line with so much of the conditional aspect of Alex's principles. Yeah. There are only a problem when they're being applied towards the white people, the good people of the West.
Starting point is 01:59:49 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He wishes for all of the negative things that he yells about to be applied to people unlike himself. Yes. Absolutely. And that's not good. So in this next clip, he attacks these, these women some more, I don't know. I mean, I could just give that as an introduction for pretty much all of
Starting point is 02:00:05 these clips. Jesus. Let's go back to her. As my city's granddaughter, as the, as the daughter of the political president, I share today's the elevate her voice by exposing the truth, the only way I know how, as my Detroit public schools, teachers taught me, you sure ran out of the ground, minimizing the pain of oppression. Our delegation, oh my gosh, it's so oppressive.
Starting point is 02:00:29 Let me into Israel. Oh my gosh, it's so oppressive. Let me into America. Go to Somalia. Go fix your own problems. Wrong person. Peanut head over there. Isn't Ilhan Omar.
Starting point is 02:00:42 God almighty. Her family is a rich, powerful, slaver family. I looked it up. Well, you didn't. Obama's Muslim family in Kenya are slavers. Did you, they're slavers of blacks. I would call on Alex to prove that in a man. Well, I believe I recall he proved that Ilhan Omar is from a slaver family
Starting point is 02:01:04 because her skin color is a little bit lighter. That was the evidence that he used last time. That was his evidence that he used last time. So he has proved it. That is true. Yeah. Um, Omar's father was a teacher. Uh, he taught teachers.
Starting point is 02:01:16 Uh, we isn't, isn't education a form of slavery down in a way. Yeah. Um, the only evidence that I could find that backs up any claim even close to this was a gateway pundit article that made allegations that, uh, he was working, uh, with the, the, the government and had some sort of, he was a secret terrorist. Sure. Sure. He was a CIA dentist.
Starting point is 02:01:39 It didn't prove in any way. It didn't have any sourcing, but Alex is probably going off of that. And this, uh, this is a, uh, one of those situations where there's a pretty high bar, uh, for evidence claiming that a, uh, congressman's, uh, uh, family is, uh, entirely slavers former president and former president. That's right. Both, uh, people of color. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:01 Uh, I don't understand what bonds them together in this situation. I would request, um, that I feel like you could get sued for that. Like absolutely. I do feel like, uh, what Alex is saying is actionable. Yeah. I know it's not worth, uh, anybody's time to actually sue him. We have standing, but that, uh, that is pretty crazy. The, the, the fact that he said, I looked it up.
Starting point is 02:02:24 Where the fuck did you look that up? No shit. He has a, he has a responsibility to cite some sort of a source or prove this in anyway, and he's failed to do so. And as it is, that's just slander. So in this next clip, he declares that Rashida is an abomination, which is no good. Really? It's that's really not good.
Starting point is 02:02:43 No. And then he goes back to the press conference, but if you've actually watched the actual press conference, you will know that what he is doing is intentionally misleading. They cut out something that gives what she's saying important context. This woman is an abomination. Let's continue. Of course, to participate in military occupation, they also desperately want peace
Starting point is 02:03:09 and self-determination for their Palestinian neighbors. They could have shed light into injustice. You know, all the Muslims do is blow each other up. But let's continue. So here, let's continue after that sentence at the beginning of where they started that audio. She says people forced to engage in military activities. What's right before that, if you listen to her actual press conference is a
Starting point is 02:03:34 description of how she's going on this fact-finding mission, where she's going to meet with Israeli veterans. That's who she's referring to in that clip. Alex deprives that of context. Muslim Israeli veterans, Dan. Okay, done. Alex deprives that clip of context because it runs entirely counter to what the presentation of this press conference is.
Starting point is 02:03:59 She's only going to Palestine and there's only Muslims at Palestine. And you know what? They're not even Palestinians, because that's not even a thing. They don't exist. They're just all Muslims. He's trying to present the idea that she's going over there and only going to be talking to Palestinian people who may or may not already be suicide bombers, whatever, who cares.
Starting point is 02:04:17 They want to destroy Israel. But in reality, there were a bunch of different groups that she and Omar and others were going to go and meet up with. Of course. And if you allow that reality to be presented, you ruin the perception that you've created. Right. And Alex is interested in the narrative, not the truth.
Starting point is 02:04:34 Which I'm sure is also one of the reasons that they were blocked from entering Israel. Possibly. Is Netanyahu definitely doesn't want to have them being associated with Israel in a positive way at all. I would assume not. So in this next clip, Alex, I mean, the whole purpose of this is to inoculate the audience from empathy and from accepting in any way these arguments and these points that are being brought up.
Starting point is 02:05:00 This next clip is primarily about the making sure no one feels anything for these people. The delegation would have seen firsthand why walls are destructive, not productive. They could have asked the people in Bethlehem how walls cut people off away from economic opportunities from a way to live. And again, let's stop right there. I can't listen to much more of this. Now, now let's hear you talk about her grandmother and the bird cage. This is, this is really, really, really cute.
Starting point is 02:05:29 Again, ladies and gentlemen, this is all to manipulate your heart strings. Ah, there it is. It's all just to manipulate your heart strings. No, Mr. Gorbachev. I'm loving that wall. Keep it going. More or less. So, uh, we're done with the press conference business, but, uh, man, for this next
Starting point is 02:05:49 club, Jordan, I want you to remember that Alex Jones, his big enemy is the new world order. Sure. That's important because whites are only 9% of the world's population. And, and let's just say it, everybody's trying to get in our countries and there's a simple reason we got Christianity. We were living, you know, in the trees and in the caves, uh, like the, you know, new black Israelites like to joke. And it's true.
Starting point is 02:06:16 I mean, had high IQ, smart people, but we were, you know, living like savages, like in Africa, because we were not Christian. The minute we got it, we went straight to the moon. Uh, and, you know, that's what we need is like got milk, got Jesus. That's what produces success. And that's what's going to unify the planet together under Christ. It's the only way we're not going to destroy ourselves. That doesn't mean we're going to force you to serve Christ.
Starting point is 02:06:40 Christ doesn't do that. The door is always open. The way is Jesus of Nazareth. That is the global unification. The Antichrist will have his counterfeit first. Then we will have the true global unification world order under Jesus Christ. Stay with us for the right back. Well, Alex is, uh, working towards a one world government, right?
Starting point is 02:07:00 Under a Christian rule. Right. That's the only problem with the world order is that it's not his. Yeah. I cannot think of anything that is suppressed knowledge more than Christianity. I don't know about that. I don't, I don't, I literally just don't know. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 02:07:20 I think maybe, yeah, certainly in the running. Also, there's, you know, some issues about if that's the case, if Christianity is the only thing that made things, uh, work out, uh, there's a lot of periods of history that you're going to have to come up with. Well, they invented algebra, right? I'm pretty sure the Christians did that. Sure. Um, I'm going to go with, uh, oh, rocket science was invented by Christians.
Starting point is 02:07:49 It's not even that. No, it's not even that angle that I'm coming at this from. I'm saying that, like he's saying that we got Christianity and there was straight to the moon, like Christianity wasn't invented in the 1950s. You know, there was a long period. I think he was using a metaphor. I understand that, but even within that metaphor, there's a lot of periods of time where there was not a lot of great innovation.
Starting point is 02:08:11 Right. There was a lot of darkness, let's say in some ages, uh, that you kind of got to make sense of and you've got to come up with an explanation for why the Christian operating system, uh, as he's describing it, wasn't, uh, they'd taken everyone to the moon. Well, it just makes me, it just makes me laugh because, uh, the bedrock of mathematics was made by his enemies, sure, as well as the technology itself necessary to go to the moon was made by paganist weirdos.
Starting point is 02:08:42 So hands, uh, his greatest enemies, the Chinese, yeah, so no, I believe it was Christianity actually probably, yeah, probably Christian, uh, Chinese. Yeah. So, uh, I mean, like the, the, the biggest point is what he's saying there. It is entirely just a, uh, uh, I want a Christian world order. Yes. I want a unified one world Christian order. Right.
Starting point is 02:09:10 Now also his bullshit about, we won't force you to, uh, to the worship Jesus. Now, sure, that's all good and well in his theory of it, but let's say that there is a Christian world order that comes into power. Right. How is it? How is the experience of being a Muslim in that circumstance going to be right? Like the best case scenario, what Alex is asking for is a tolerant, um, world order that is entirely run by Christianity.
Starting point is 02:09:43 Right. And that's not, that, that isn't a good situation. Uh, I, well, it's a, it's a, like benevolent. World dictatorship in his conception, it wouldn't even, it wouldn't even, I mean, it's simply not possible. Well, it's not, but in his conception, right, right, right. Man, that's, that's real stupid. That's real stupid.
Starting point is 02:10:06 Especially for someone like him to say, yeah, that's, that's a little bit too much. Yeah. I think you should probably bail. I think you should call it. I'm thinking that this might also be something that he's now having to do because of Trump. Yeah. I, I, I think, well, Trump is now the chosen one.
Starting point is 02:10:22 So he has to. Sure. And he's already indicated that he wants him to buy Greenland, indicating a move towards expansionism and, and making a war, like an empire of America. Well, and as far as the one world government goes, he's always been against the UN, but now he's talking about how a resurgence of nationalism is globally bringing people together. Right.
Starting point is 02:10:44 I mean, it's, it's a, it's a, it's not a far jump to, uh, from his rhetoric now to the exact opposite of what he's based his existence on. Just we're doing it. Yeah. Which is, shouldn't surprise anyone. No, no, but it would have surprised me a year ago. Yeah. If I'd heard this, but now from the last year of all the invalidations and, and
Starting point is 02:11:07 all of it being like, Oh, his, his principles are conditional. Of course, the new world order is a conditional thing too. Of course it is. Right. He has nothing. He doesn't believe anything except defending masculinity, Christianity, whiteness, and the power hierarchies that are implied within those things. That is it.
Starting point is 02:11:26 Yep. Anyway, I think we're done here. Well, we have one last clip. We have one last clip and that is, uh, Alex taking a caller as he gets some calls and one of them wants to bring up, uh, this Trump being the chosen one. Yeah. Yeah. And I include David Lynch.
Starting point is 02:11:42 I include this to be a little bit of a taste of how Alex's listeners are interacting with this development and it doesn't, it doesn't seem good. He's always been Christian as a traditionalist, but not really, you know, me tell you, Trump has had conversations with me about the energy at churches and black churches, particularly not energy crowds. And that's the kind of, I mean, that's how me and Trump hook up. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:10 I'm the same wavelength and it's all about energy. You see, and, and, and Trump's into it and Trump loves Jesus. Here, let's go ahead and pull up a go to your call, a Doug. Thanks for holding. Go ahead from Connecticut. Afternoon, Alex. How you doing, brother? Good.
Starting point is 02:12:22 What do you want to chime in on about that dough and message the Trump chosen one comment? Well, I'll start with Trump. I haven't seen Trump yet. Make a comment that is stupid, I guess would be the word because he, uh, what about the time that he, uh, you know, said Toledo after the Dayton shooting? That wasn't stupid. That was, uh, right on.
Starting point is 02:12:43 He puts the comments out and then the left rolls with it and they make, you know, fools in himself. So if, if you can't see that Trump is doing, uh, Christ like things for this country in the world, if you can't see the opposite side of evil out there, you're not looking in the right place. So by Alex's rhetoric being so insistent that the other side are devils and demons, he has on some level prepared his audience for the one who's fighting them is the second coming of God.
Starting point is 02:13:15 This is not an, this is not a difficult leap for him to make. No, no, no, no, what seemed like probably would be difficult for Alex to rationalize is a hop, skip and a jump from where he already was. Yeah. And there's no stakes to it for him to just make this a piece of like, yeah, of course, of course he's God's chosen one. It's, it's insane. No, this is so far past any point of acceptability.
Starting point is 02:13:42 No, this is like, I, I, is, are there a group of people who are just like trying to make everything in the book of revelations actually happen feels like it, like it because you even reading it. I was like, there's no way I remember, I remember specifically reading the book of revelations when I was like 11 and thinking there is no way unless some sort of godly hypnosis that the Christian church would ever follow the antichrist willingly, it must be a setup and I will be God damned Dan. If it didn't take like zero effort, it should be harder.
Starting point is 02:14:22 It's weird. It should be harder. I'm not going to ascribe any kind of thing like that to this. Oh, I'm going to go with simulation for sure. I'm all right with you doing that. And I think that our, our positions can coexist. I just think that this is like Alex recognizing that this is an advantageous way for the rhetoric that he already believes in and pushes to
Starting point is 02:14:46 take its final form, take its real form. No, it's, it's almost inevitable as a, you know, late stage form of propaganda at this, at this level. Yeah, it's, it's, you know, you get what you wanted. It's not what you wanted. And you have some people who jump ship and are like, well, we got to get back to decency. We got to get back to, we had to find the conservatism has lost its way.
Starting point is 02:15:09 And that's the scam that they go with. Yeah. And then some people like Alex, it's not really about, he was never a Republican to begin with. He was never really into the GOP. He was never into politics, particularly he's into what he's into. A Christian theocracy. And this is achievable in his mind through Trump.
Starting point is 02:15:29 If things get even worse. Right. So why wouldn't he encourage the worst parts of this? Yeah. It makes sense in a very twisted way, but only if you look at Alex through the prism that we've come to understand him in. Right. And that's, I mean,
Starting point is 02:15:43 it's almost a Hague, Hague alien dialectic. I don't know. I'm not even going to allow you to say that exacerbating the, uh, the same circumstances that are going to then lead to something that you can exploit to create the Christian Christians theocracy that you want. Maybe, I don't know. Whatever it is, it's not good. No, it's getting bad.
Starting point is 02:16:02 It's very, it's getting bad. It's real bad. Um, I don't know what the future is going to bring for Alex, but it won't be good. And I should say that, uh, uh, right after that caller, Alex did say that, uh, Zach Voorhees was coming back and that Vox day was going to be joining him. No. And I said, no, thank you. No, thank you.
Starting point is 02:16:22 We've already got too much behind us. I'm not, I wasn't going to, I don't care. Yeah. Whatever they were going to talk about had, it was going to be some zog shit, uh, no interest. So, uh, that, that did exist there though, just to give a little. Anyway, we'll be back on Monday. We will.
Starting point is 02:16:40 You know, I think the most worrying thing is that we'll be back on Monday. We might not be. No, it's that like, shouldn't we have laughed him off the stage the moment he said, I'm the chosen one. That's hilarious. I mean, instead we're at a place now where that's the most worrying thing I can think of, you know, three years ago, maybe you could have laughed him off the stage, but it's too, it's real now.
Starting point is 02:17:05 It's very real. It's very real and very terrifying. Yep. And laughing at it would be dangerous. Oh yeah. No, we're all, we're all fucked. It's hilarious. And, and the, the further thing is like, I mean, this is just, uh, uh, uh, you
Starting point is 02:17:23 know, the reminder as this like is okay. Um, there's really nowhere. What's next? There's really nowhere that you can't go consequences for saying that Jewish people who vote for Democrats are disloyal to Israel. Right. Where, where is a line? Where is there a line?
Starting point is 02:17:43 You have a president who's regurgitating protocol. Shit. Yeah. Where is there? Like, where's the line? There is. We're past it. We're past it.
Starting point is 02:17:51 No, no, that's what we've learned. Anyways, we'll be back on Monday. Right. Maybe website knowledge fight. We do. I'm a, we're on Twitter. It's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed Jordan on Facebook. We are much like Carpe Donkton.
Starting point is 02:18:03 Hey, yes. Currently for now, right? I, I imagine he will be kicked off before we ever are. I don't know. Um, so if you wanted to listen to our show, though, you could go to iTunes. Yeah, we're there. Download it. You could leave a review.
Starting point is 02:18:19 Uh, that would be nice. People like to say nice things about us. I've heard that you could also go to your local CVS, uh, ask them for a pack of cigarettes. They don't sell them anymore, but that's the secret code and then they'll down, they'll give you a flash drive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely.
Starting point is 02:18:35 Uh, also thanks to everybody who has, uh, sent pictures of crunchy bars. Yes. Uh, confirming my, uh, assertion that they are the best candy bar in the world. They're pretty good. If you haven't even tried one, if you ever, if anybody, I've tried one before. Oh, okay. When I was in London. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 02:18:49 Yeah. Uh, you responded to my bringing it up with confusion, which is why I assumed you never had. I didn't know what it looked like. I didn't know what we were talking about specifically. Yeah. Once they put the pictures up, I was like, Oh, it was good. So good.
Starting point is 02:19:02 If anybody has tried one of those jelly tots things though, that's what we're really grew on me. Actually, I ate the rest of it. Yeah. After you left, I ate the rest of it. I wasn't as bad cause I chewed strategically. You ate a white chocolate candy bar with a jelly. Well, you just couldn't over commit to the jelly tot in the middle of it.
Starting point is 02:19:21 Okay. Like you had to dance around it a little, right? Anyway, I have strategies. I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm the Jesus lizard. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.
Starting point is 02:19:34 So Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.

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