Knowledge Fight - #342: September 6-11, 2019

Episode Date: September 13, 2019

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss Alex Jones' very weird last week. In this installment, the gents find Alex encouraging his audience to go bother doctors at abortion clinics and announcing that the end m...ay be near for his career. Also, PJW manages to outdo himself in terms of lazy journalism.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. I really like them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys saying we are the bad guys. Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed we are, Dan. Jordan. What was the longest paper you ever wrote in college? Or perhaps the longest paper you ever wrote, period. Or what was the shortest paper you ever wrote? I have no idea. Oh, okay, never mind. I don't know. What do you mean you don't know? You remember specific papers in college? Yeah, of course I do. Jesus. Man. What? You don't? No. Really? No. I thought you liked it. I did, but I don't have like a lot of memories of like term papers or anything I wrote. Oh yeah. I have a memory of some like subjects that were covered in the information but not the actual experience of writing the paper or how long it was. Really? No. No shit. No, I remember. I wrote a 25,000 word paper. Of course I'm gonna remember that shit. That's very easy for me to forget. I smoked a lot of weed. Fair enough. You know what? I didn't smoke a lot of weed in college. I was a nerd. I have no idea. I wrote a lot of papers and a lot of subjects and I always did very well with them. I'm a very good paper writer.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Gotcha. Especially back in college. And no, but I don't remember any of them because they just rolled off me like water off a duck's back. Oh, you were so good. You just talked about nonstop. Nonstop. Winners. Absolutely. Nothing but winners. Got you. 100%. All right. I understand now. So Jordan is a podcast where I don't know anything about my old term papers, but I do know a lot about Alex Jones. And I don't know anything about either. That's correct. So today we got an interesting episode to go over. We're going to be covering the timeframe of September 6th to September 11th, 2019. Oh boy. A very interesting time period. A lot of ins and outs. A lot of real wild shit going on. And we'll get to all of that here in a moment. But before we do, we've got to take a moment to say thank you. People have signed up and are sporting the show. So first of all, Simon, thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you, Simon. Thank you, Simon.
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Starting point is 00:03:07 Yeah, I'm sorry I pronounced your name in a way that sounded almost like an onomatopoeia. It is kind of weird how you almost have to pronounce Ralph like Ralph. I didn't mean to. I have nothing but respect for the noble Ralph's of the world, like Wreck-It. Yes. Next, Gunk. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you, Gunk.
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Starting point is 00:04:11 Thank you very much, David and Tua. So, we wanted to take a little quick moment before we get any further into the show to give a little bit of a explanation of some stuff. But before we do, here's an out of context drop from Alex Jones. I'm not metrosexual. I want to take care of my skin, dammit. So, let's become metrosexual. I'm joking. He's joking. He's joking. Hey, hey, that'd be terrible.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Yeah. That'd be terrible. Yeah, we just want to thank everybody who listens and everybody who supports the show. Absolutely. It's insane the expectation that we had going into this versus the reality of it. It's overwhelming in many ways. It creates insecurity. For sure. For sure.
Starting point is 00:04:55 And because we do essentially no promotion whatsoever, the only reason that we've grown to the point we have is because people who listen have shared it and have been very, very supportive. We've grown now to the point where we could pursue doing ads on the show. Yeah, very, probably not too difficult. Yeah. And it's been that way for a little bit now, but I think that we both in private conversations feel fairly similarly with ebbs and flows, perhaps based on a daily mood. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:28 But I think we have a feeling that doing ads, especially on a show like ours, kind of feels weird. Yeah. And it might lead to a diminished experience for listeners. People not enjoying it so much. Or if we go with somebody who gets to choose our ads for us, we might end up with a fucking info wars ad. Right, right, right. And I don't want to make fun of an Alex Jones ad pivot.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Right. I would immediately be like, all right, and now our sponsors are that. Yeah. No offense to Harry's razor. No, of course not. I use Harry's razors. They want to advertise. But in ways, in many ways, our audience, I don't know what we, what they would be served
Starting point is 00:06:10 by an advertisement for like, I'm not entirely sure if anything, advertising would be a positive for the audience. Yeah. And then also the show itself would feel weird. Absolutely. Here at a point where we're making a strong commitment to not taking advertising and being entirely audience supported as we have been. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:32 And we appreciate everybody who has signed up and in order for us to really turn this into exactly what it can be and should be there, you know, it would mean a lot if you're considering signing up as a donor, as a, as a patron, you, it would, it would really help. Absolutely. It would be very, very helpful. We are incredibly resistant to this sort of thing. So yeah, we don't, yeah, but you know, the average, if you look at our Patreon page, it's a couple bucks to become a policy wonk.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Please do it. So that out of the way. Yeah. So we're going to now get into September 6th through the 11th and here's an out of context drop from Alex. Again, I have so much news. I can't even cover it right now. Why does everyone get back?
Starting point is 00:07:26 There's just too much here. I think that's putting on a like an act, but it still is weird. Yeah. Yeah. And then he spent the next hour, I assume, talking with Barnes about his continuing legal travels. I will say there's too much news that he's got to get to the Barnes does make at least two appearances on this stretch.
Starting point is 00:07:45 So much barns. So we start on the 6th and Alex is in a bit of a weird mood. And in this clip, he defines leadership, but I think I only kept this clip in because he pronounces some words funny and I kind of enjoyed it. Leadership that's positive is doing things, you know, or right that, you know, are going to end up hurting you, but end up in the end being proven right and launching whole new human systems of success and empowerment and enlightenment as humans ascend and become closer to God.
Starting point is 00:08:29 That's leadership sabotaging culture, learning how to manipulate people, engaging in deception is cancer. It's a knowledge of evil. It's a virus. It manipulates systems that already existed and causes entropy and collapse. It does not pro generate. It does not found. It does not found.
Starting point is 00:08:53 It is not a source source. It is not a creator. Oh, it is not a build or a constructor. It's a build or a burger and they are collapses. So I think this has like some of the similar ideas to his like a tree of good and evil. Yeah. Misunderstanding of the Garden of Eden story, but I just think he's pronouncing creator weird.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Build or is not how that's pronounced. No, nor is it how it's spelled. No, I like, I like that and this is always true. He is better at explaining why Alex is the worst than Alex when he's talking about what he thinks other people are doing. Like he literally just laid out all of the reasons. I couldn't have put it better myself. Why he is a cancer.
Starting point is 00:09:44 He really nailed it. Yeah. Yeah. He has a couple of like really accidentally introspective clips throughout this show. And I think part of it is like, there's a real fucked up headspace that we're going to get into when we get to the 11th, September 11th, 9, 11, 18th anniversary. He barely talks about 9, 11. Of course not.
Starting point is 00:10:01 But does make a startling revelation that I think people will be very excited to hear. The Iraq war was a false flag. No, he probably already believes that seems very milk toast for him. Yeah. And in many ways it kind of is. So on the sixth, I think he's in a weird headspace though, probably because of things that he ends up talking about later episodes, because he knows, he knows what's going on. And so he comes back from break with some Beatles, and then he gets real fucking heady
Starting point is 00:10:29 about this man. I wonder what he's talking about. You ever looked into a clear blue sky laying out on a green hill in the fall and just laid there for hours on a blanket and then watch the sun slowly set. You can see the diamond lattice of the universe, God's handiwork in the firmament. And you don't even need to be on LSD to see it. That's the amazing part. The good news is chill force works.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Alex's new product is clearly a banger. Yeah. You don't need to take LSD, but I put a lot of it in this chill force just in case you were wondering. You ever lay out on a blanket and see stars, man? I got to check out this chill force. Yeah. I got to check out these stars.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Yeah. There's a diamond lattice in the sky. All right. So Alex gets from there from that really trippy college dorm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Yeah. Yeah. This is philosophy of the highest caliber. Yeah. And then he just launches into trying to scare people naturally. Yeah. And what you do now today will echo through eternally. So I'm asking all listeners to remember that the power of this broadcast is you.
Starting point is 00:12:08 It's not like you're just a leg of it or you're an arm of it or you're part of the brain. You're the whole shooting match. It's you they hate. It's you they want to silence. It's you they want to disarm. It's your children. They want to poison and dumb down and mislead into hell with them for eternity.
Starting point is 00:12:26 And so I'll say it again. Your word of mouth spreading the word however you're listening, however you're watching continually is unstoppable. Your financial support is central. Pivot. Nice. Nice. Nice smooth.
Starting point is 00:12:40 They want to kill your children. You're all going to die. It's so wild to me that both of us were sitting here like and yeah. There's a real feeling that I had going through this episode and preparing it. He's saying a lot of extremist shit that we'll get to. Yeah. Like stuff that is so fucking crazy. And I'm sitting here.
Starting point is 00:12:58 I'm like, Alex is talking like it. We have become so inundated with like his behaviors, whether it be from a bigotry standpoint or from a disgusting performance based like I'm going to say that all of our enemies want to kill your children and I'm the only one who can stop them and now you need to give me money. Or when he goes on to one of those weird improv quote unquote descriptions of what it is they're going to do to your children in the basement. I'm so numb to it.
Starting point is 00:13:25 It's it's very wild. Like the experience of sitting here listening to that clip was just both of us kind of like blase. Yeah. Well, it should be. It should be like, look at this fucking asshole. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Right. Right. Well, when we started, I was, it was nonstop freaking out, but now it's almost like he's, he's even though he's ramped up his rhetoric, it's like, how much further can you go? Really? Yeah. And you're just like, all right, fine. You're disgusting and gross, but let's move on, man.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Yeah. So Alex extends his ad pitch and he's getting into like a lot more lately. I'm not positive that this was part of how he framed things earlier in his career. If he did it, it was less frequently, but he's been, he's been putting it in a lot of religious terms lately, like people giving him money. Okay. I'm done plugging. Thank you for the support.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Please support our local AM and FM stations and TV stations as well with your word of mouth and become a sponsor or support the local sponsors or tithe to the truth. I say, is your church exposing post birth abortion? Is your church exposing the market, the beast, world government being announced is exposing the giant pedophile rings? Is it exposing the satanic agenda? No. I was there, but intimidated by Buddha judge to just worship, you know, a pedophile story
Starting point is 00:14:38 time. So Buddha judge, whatever he's mad at, he's mad at Pete, mayor Pete, because, oh, oh, I thought he was talking about a Buddha who was a judge mental Buddha. Yeah. That's what I thought. That's what I heard. For sure. Nope.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Talking about Pete. He's mad at him because he, uh, like, I guess he thinks he's like a mega church glitter bug type guy. Yeah. I just think it's pretty interesting, you know, the way that you got this framing of stuff being much more consistently put into the terms of like, we're better than your church. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Tithe to us. Yeah. We are almost, it's almost like a religious duty to give Alex 10% of your wages. Well, that's, it's in the Bible. It's upsetting. Absolutely. So one of the other things that's upsetting is that there seems to be a trend along with Robert Barnes being on all the fucking time.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Yeah. Another guy who seems to be coming up a lot more frequently, and that is that guy, Tom Pepper, if you recall, he is a guy who runs a station at a Wichita and Alex is on that station and I don't, I don't know. I mean, I guess this guy ran a semi-popular, uh, Trump, uh, Facebook page, a God Emperor Trump. And so that's Alex's way in or whatever, but this guy must have blackmail on Alex because he is on a lot.
Starting point is 00:16:00 I don't like people using Dune for evil, Dan. Sorry. Jesus. So he comes on and, uh, he talks about how the Info Wars audience has responded to times when they have like, his TV station has a power blackout or something like that. They have an interruption of service. And I think that if you listen to how he describes the audience, he wants to put it, uh, in terms of them being very into the programming.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Sure. Instead, it kind of sounds like a paranoid cult. They were a local TV station. So you've got movies, you've got news, you've got sports, you've got all kinds of stuff. But let me tell you, when there's a bump in the night, when there's a power surge, when there's something bad that happens, it's not anybody asking about the movie network. And I love the movie network. It's a great movie network, but it is hundreds and hundreds of calls.
Starting point is 00:16:47 What happened to Alex? You're not taking them off. What happened to Alex? Where's Alex Jones? I need my Info Wars. You're not getting rid of Info Wars. It is completely unbelievable. Not only that, people are loving it.
Starting point is 00:16:56 People support it. People, they do. Tithe to the TV station. They do support the advertisers. They tithe to Tom Pappert. Man, this is gross. It really is. It's really gross.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Because what he's describing, I think it's exaggerated probably. But the mentality that he's exaggerating as like a positive sign is people like any service interruption is, you don't take away my Alex. It's like an ingrained paranoia that is just bizarre. Yeah, that's rough. That's a little bit too much. Yeah. Too much.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Especially to be presented as a positive. Yeah. No, that's obsessive, weird, and I think sacrilegious. Yeah. I have a hard time being the guy who's like, hey, how dare you impugn religion. Right. You're working against a tenant of religion. It seems not my place, but it does feel.
Starting point is 00:17:49 From what I remember when I used to go to church, it feels like this would be frowned upon. I'm pretty sure my church, when I was growing up, was not revealing a post birth abortion because that doesn't exist. They were not telling us all about all of the other bullshit that he's lying about. But I'm pretty sure the pastor would be pissed off if somebody was like, no, no, no, don't tie it to the church, tie it to the TV station. I write a zine.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Yeah. Tied to me. Tied to me. He'd be like, God wasn't into that dude. So one of the other things God probably wouldn't be into is Tom and Alex. I would describe, I've seen little, maybe indications of this in Tom Papert's past appearances on the show. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:36 But I'm kind of, especially on this September 6th episode, I'm seeing some indications that this dude might be real into white identity, like white people stuff. That's a surprise. Yeah. I know. I'm just completely flummoxed by this development. I'm guessing those people who call in when there's a disruption of service are not multi-ethnic dance.
Starting point is 00:18:59 I'm not sure. But this next clip, Tom and Alex kind of dance around accusing the UN of carrying out a white jet. Sure. Sure. Okay. This is the UN agenda. Bring in these tribal groups, bring them in that don't assimilate, and let them take
Starting point is 00:19:14 over. That's exactly right. It's the 100% tried and tested way to destroy a civilization. We've seen it across time. And what you get into, Alex, is really the intelligent part of this, because they're doing this intentionally. It's not by accident that we have the UN trying to destroy Western countries. It's not by accident that we have them doing this exclusively in countries that were settled
Starting point is 00:19:36 by high intelligence individuals. They're doing it because they want it to collapse so they can then get even more direct control. And we know that they ultimately want us all dead. They want to kill up 90% of the human population. Okay, Tom. All right. Let's see. How many red flag words did you catch on that one?
Starting point is 00:19:54 I don't know. But I got bingo metaphorically. That was... I assume he wasn't including Guatemala in Western civilizations. I don't know. You'd have to ask Peppert. I'm guessing when he said they were settled by high intelligence individuals, I don't think he was referencing the Native Americans, Dan.
Starting point is 00:20:13 I don't think so. I think he's being very specific about who he's describing. I feel like there's a lot of code. And it's stronger sort of reinforced by this next clip where he talks about Rome and what happened. Sure, sure. What went wrong with Rome. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:20:31 And they know also that there have been clashes of culture since the beginning of time. Look at how the Romans fell. They start bringing in all of these tribes that were not genetically similar. There are clashes. What? They eventually... They will not adopt to the government. There's culture and it falls.
Starting point is 00:20:44 And that's what we're seeing now. Now I don't want to get into a big dissertation here. On why Rome fell? Probably the longest paper I've ever written. Ah, nicely done. But I want to leave that aside for a second and discuss how this broadcast in Alex Jones' worldview is explicitly anti-government. This is bizarre for them to be complaining about minority groups coming into a civilization
Starting point is 00:21:10 and not submitting to the government. Crazy, crazy that they don't submit to the government. They won't assimilate, Dan. And as we all know, the Roman government is famous for being kind to all of its citizens. Leaving Rome aside again, it's almost like these dudes have a very different standard for white and non-white people. For white people, like themselves, it's very essential that they fight back against the oppressive government.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Yes, genetically similar to themselves, Dan. For non-white people, you must submit. They have to. What else is there to do? It's a bizarre mentality to see on display. It would be one thing if they weren't all about being against the government. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That is a very, that's a very poor point for them.
Starting point is 00:22:00 That's not very good. I don't think they've thought a lot of this through in how kind of glaring a lot of these holes are just in their speech. That's a surprise they haven't thought this all the way through. So Alex gets into a long thing about a video that he found of some black person being set on fire in South Africa. And so now he's decided that one of his big crusades is going to be like restarting Rhodesia. I mean, metaphorically, yeah, I guess that kind of is what he's, there's a lot of rhetoric
Starting point is 00:22:31 that runs along those lines, but he starts talking about how the black folk in South Africa are racist against other black people and the white people, you know, it's like they're just targets of it's it's complicated, but he has some he has a couple problems with his framing. Put up a map of South Africa, you'll see Zulu land. That's the only place Zulus were like the Comanches of Africa, the big, tall, tough guys. Zulu is all over Africa.
Starting point is 00:23:05 That's the tough guys. Everybody's afraid of them. It doesn't matter when 10 times the number come in, they start killing Zulu. So let's put a map of South Africa, stop South Africa and blow it up. You'll see Zulu land, one little area the Zulus get. So this is in the middle of Tyrate that Alex is on about how the commies and the ANC were horrible anti whites, but not only that, they forced the Zulu, the indigenous people of South Africa to live in a tiny section of the country called Zulu land.
Starting point is 00:23:33 The first misconception Alex seems to have is that Zulu only live in Zulu land, which is actually called Kwa Zulu Natal. Zulu people live throughout South Africa and elsewhere, but if you just see Zulu land on a map and you're stupid, you might get the idea that, hey, that's where all the Zulu are. I, I immediately went to Disneyland, but that's just me. Well, that's where all the Disney lives. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Right. When the British arrived in the late 1800s in South Africa, they immediately got into a bit of a fight with the Zulu, who by that point had a monarchical system in place. Britain demanded their subjugation and surrendered a British rule, which the Zulu were not into and they declined. Man, you got to give it up to the British because they're essentially Somali pirates at this time period. The British eventually conquered the Zulu nation and divided the kingdom up into 13
Starting point is 00:24:19 sub states, which I assume is most likely because it would be much more easy to manage things that way. Yeah, and to oppress things. Yeah. Zulu King, Dina Zulu, made an alliance with the Boers and declared Zulu land its own independent country a little while after. This worried the British since that alliance would give the Boers access to a port which could hurt British trade dominance in the region, so the British just annexed Zulu land.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Yeah. The most important thing to remember is that the legacy of Zulu being forced to live in Quazulu Natal is not the legacy of the ANC, it is the direct result of apartheid. When apartheid was still in place, hundreds of thousands of Zulu who lived outside Quazulu had their land taken and they were forcibly relocated to Quazulu. The idea was to create a semi-autonomous state, which was still largely controlled by the white power structure, which would serve as a place for a lot of the non-whites to go to.
Starting point is 00:25:12 It's not really all that different than any other formulation of white nationalism you hear, where you want non-whites to go somewhere, but on the off chance the place you send them to has a bunch of resources you want, you still want to be clear that you're in charge. Due to the displacement of thousands and thousands of Zulu to Quazulu in the years of apartheid, the distribution of Zulu population does skew pretty heavily towards Quazulu, but it's not the ANC or Nelson Mandela who did that, it was the white apartheid government. The way Alex is presenting this is very blatant and completely irresponsible. He's pointing to a direct consequence of the brutal apartheid system, and then blaming
Starting point is 00:25:48 the consequences on the people who were subjected to said brutality. Pure and simple, this is an expression of overt white nationalism, and that is the prism through which he's looking at the world. Okay, so wait, is he using this in concert with their other demographic bullshit where they're saying, see, look what happened in Africa, they let all these white people in and the white people destroyed the entire country, so that's why we can't let people into America? No.
Starting point is 00:26:17 No, he's not making that point. No. He's arguing that Nelson Mandela and the ANC were the people who put all the Zulu in Zulu land. That's the dumbest thing anybody could say. It is. That's incredibly stupid. That's unreal.
Starting point is 00:26:31 He's ascribing blame for that geographical relocation that happened during apartheid to the people who were working against apartheid. Wow. So that's basically what he's doing, and that's the way that people like this look at the world. Yeah. They don't look at the world as though the British just went in and fucked everything up over and over and over again all across the world.
Starting point is 00:26:54 They think that white people are superior, and that was fine. Right. And then when white people don't have power, that's when they fuck everything up. And we'll pretend that the really, really negative things that were done during those periods of time were actually done by non-white people. Yeah, of course. Wow. That extends to even possibly a more recent past in Africa, as we've covered this before
Starting point is 00:27:18 in the past, but Alex re-understands the genocide in Rwanda. Oh, no. Why have you gone somewhere like Rwanda, where the small Christian tribe that only got Christianized in the last 400 years ended up having 90-plus percent of the wealth? And then the U.N. and the globalists came in because they wanted the people that had the land in control, and they killed the Christian minority with the animist or Earthworship group that was 90 percent. Now, that's what really happened there.
Starting point is 00:27:50 It's all been admitted. It absolutely hasn't. Site your sources, prove any of that shit. Yeah, no shit. The reason that the Tutsi had a lot of the property was because they were deemed the bureaucratic class by the Belgians prior to the events that unfolded. It's almost like the fucking Stanford Prison Experiment, that whole circumstance. Well, except that prison experiment isn't valid.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Yeah, no, no, no. I know, but that kind of function of almost arbitrarily the Belgians were just like you guys. You set two groups against each other because you deem one of them more similar to you. And that is what Alex is pretending that just one group was Christian, when in reality both were mostly Christian, or similarly Christian. You have one group that was Christian, and therefore they became really rich, and then the UN wanted their stuff, so they sent these animists after them.
Starting point is 00:28:45 That's crazy bullshit. That is white nationalist propaganda of the highest order, and bullshit. And ahistorical and dangerous. Yeah, absolutely. So this next clip is just kind of dumb, but you know, you could always use a little palate cleanser, I guess. When it comes to trying to defend the unborn, when it comes to believing in America, these churches tell you how moral they are all day, and I guarantee you those preachers aren't.
Starting point is 00:29:11 They're probably down at the gay bar giving blow jobs right now. Yikes. Oh. Yikes. Did he just say most pastors are closeted? I don't know. I don't know what he's exactly saying. I think he's trying to use homosexuality as an insult, which is kind of par for the course
Starting point is 00:29:29 for him. Yeah. Whatever, Alex. This is a family show. This is a family show. I should remind you, Alex thinks that this is a family show. Oh boy. Oh, that's a good family.
Starting point is 00:29:42 So if you'll recall, Larry Grathwall is a guy who came out with some information about him supposedly infiltrating the weather underground back in the 70s, and he said that they came out with 100% accurate information that nobody has disputed whatsoever. Nobody's confirmed it. He claimed that they were planning to put people in reeducation camps who didn't give up on capitalism, and that 25 million or so people would need to be killed. And of course, Alex confronted a weather underground guy, Bill Ayers, about this, and Bill Ayers explained to him that Larry Grathwald was a weird snitch who hung around and no one
Starting point is 00:30:24 trusted him, and he used to made up a bunch of shit, and everyone knew he was working for the FBI. Yeah. So he decided not to take that under advisement, and still believes that everything Larry Grathwald said is 100% true. Naturally. And so Alex talks about that a little bit, and then I think that Tom Pappert got trolled, and he thinks it's real.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Okay. Larry Grathwald died two years ago. He had his daughter on he was highly-decorated green moray in Vietnam going to mainline college. They tried to recruit him. This was the weatherman. They said, we're going to put 50 million people in camps, mainly, well, 50 men. 50 men.
Starting point is 00:30:59 We're going to kill them, and we're going to put their families in forced labor. That came out in federal court. Well, now you can go to Yahoo today in an article against me, and I mean, a third of the comments, I read hundreds of them. There's like 2,500 comments that I saw this morning. I couldn't read them all, but I mean, I read a few hundred, and it was like, we're going to kill him. We're going to put him in a forced camp.
Starting point is 00:31:17 I can't wait for the communist takeover. This is what they're teaching at the colleges, ain't it? Ah, yes. We know how the weather underground and their remnants love to fuck with Alex and comments on YouTube. Articles. Yep. So there's a comment thread on a Yahoo article, and that is representative of how the entire
Starting point is 00:31:38 population now wants to put people in forced labor camps. I mean, that level of thinking is fucking crazy, but we're going to see one of the most unacceptable versions of that a little bit later in this episode, but that idea of taking just superfluous internet commentary as being indicative of anything, which actually, I mean, we get another example of it. This isn't the super egregious one, but Tom Pappert's got a real dumb, dumb thing to say here. Antifa is mainline.
Starting point is 00:32:06 That's why mainstream media promotes it is good. And so Tom Pappert, you've been talking about a few years ago, I remember seeing this, when viral leftist fantasizing about, well, repeat what they were saying they were going to do. I mean, it's absolutely insane. It's either on Twitter or Tumblr, and we've posted it here recently on my Facebook page. What they're saying is the first guy says, so what are you going to do when the communists take over and we finally win? And somebody says, oh, great question.
Starting point is 00:32:29 I'm going to be in uniform design and procurement for the Red Army. And another guy comes in and says, that's a fascinating thought. My only question is, does Tom Pappert sincerely think that these people were for real? Or does he understand that they were fucking around and this is a joke? And he just is like, I don't care that it's a joke. It works for my optics. I'm going to lie about this and pretend I think it's real. That's the only question I have.
Starting point is 00:32:56 So is he completely humorless, or is he aware of his bullshit? That's the only distinction I think that exists, because this is a crazy attempt to launder just, I guess, a fucking dumb internet joke into being like, these people are sincerely planning on the jobs that they're going to have with the Red Army. Why would, even if there was a communist takeover, why would they have a Red Army again? They've already had one. It's the United States. Just have a Green Army.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Make your own name. It's fucking insane. Yeah, that's crazy. So some of those concerns that I had about Tom Pappert having these white tendencies, let's say, were really elevated by some comments that he makes in this next clip, sort of about countries. I am a big racist, Tom Pappert. Might as well.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Quote it. They're real folks. They're trying to gear a worldwide collapse from which we basically kill ourselves, and then they return. It's psychotic. Really, they built a system that's not sustainable that's going to collapse. So they've just tried to spengali it, and then claim they really manage the whole thing. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:03 No, that's exactly right. This is their solution. And it's all around the world. They have these little bug-out zones. Iceland is one of them. Switzerland is one of them. These isolated areas where, for some reason, they don't have multiculturalism in all of these immigrants who come from completely antithetical cultures.
Starting point is 00:34:16 They don't have all of these high taxes and insane policies that we have here in the West, but they're in the West. It is because that's where Kim Jong-un goes to school. That's where all of these great families, the Rockefellers, go to school. Getting a lot of indications that West means white. Oh, yeah. So Iceland has been very historically Icelandic, ethnically speaking. That hasn't been true lately, though, largely because of big economic upturns in the Icelandic
Starting point is 00:34:42 economy, which has the effect of drawing people in who are looking for opportunity. In turn, Iceland has the incentive to welcome immigrants in because their economic success is aided by an inflow of labor which the immigrants provide. The image of Iceland in the head is someone like Alex or Tom Pappert is a homogenous place where everyone is white. According to a 2017 census, 10.6% of the population of Iceland were first-generation immigrants, up from 4% in 1990. One of the great difficulties about immigrating to Iceland is that it's a big island 900 miles
Starting point is 00:35:13 away from Norway. Getting to Iceland is a difficult feat for someone trying to immigrate. And for many years after the 2008 financial crisis, it wasn't a hugely appealing option. And in fact, a ton of native-born Icelanders took that as a sign to leave the country. As the economy has diversified and the tourism sector has skyrocketed, Iceland is a place that looks a lot more appealing as a destination for someone trying to find a place they can survive. Iceland is a country with a relatively small population, and it was starting from a place
Starting point is 00:35:45 of very low immigration. But as the economy has grown, you see exactly the pattern you would expect to see. This isn't some globalist stronghold, and the immigrants who are arriving are from all sorts of cultures, even the ones that Tom Dumb Dumb Pappert thinks are incompatible with the West. Switzerland is an even worse example for Tom to use. Switzerland is consistently ranked very high on the list of countries with the highest proportion of their population being foreign-born, with a number sitting at around 23% compared
Starting point is 00:36:13 to the US at approximately 14%. A lot of these immigrants are from EU countries, but make no mistake about it. It's not like all the people who Tom would call Western are those of the only people who are immigrating to Switzerland. There's a large population of Tamil people who fled the Civil War in Sri Lanka, who have resettled in Switzerland. There are large numbers of people from Croatia and Serbia who have made Switzerland their new home, as well as Filipinos and Pakistani populations that are particularly large.
Starting point is 00:36:43 What Tom is saying is categorically not true, but it feels right to people who yearn to live in a white ethno-state. They want it so bad that they have to pretend that their imagined enemies have created these pure enclaves without immigrants, that they're just hogging for themselves. Because even these globalists who preach all day about multiculturalism secretly know that you've got to just be surrounded by your own race. They know it. They know it.
Starting point is 00:37:06 They've gotten to themselves in Iceland and Switzerland. Jesus. This is a gigantic red flag from a white nationalism perspective. This is extremist shit that's coming out of his mouth, under the guise of normal conversation. That's brevok level. Also, tax rates are an insanely complicated thing to compare across countries. But if you just look at the highest and lowest tax rate brackets, there's very little difference between the United States and Iceland or Switzerland.
Starting point is 00:37:31 There doesn't appear to be too much to what he's saying other than what feels true to him. I believe that these countries are ones that he associates with whiteness, and they're better because of it. And Jordan, there's a name for that. I don't understand. What name? I'll leave it.
Starting point is 00:37:47 God, any time these people get to talk unchallenged, I just always want to be there and just be like, tell me what Western means, and you know what you know, and I know what you know. So just fucking quit it. We all know. I mean, they've already been very clear in past instances on this show. Yeah. I would say, what was it? It was like, yeah, no, it was Aya Yokoful.
Starting point is 00:38:12 When the volcano erupted and shut down travel from the UK to the United States, Iceland was non-stop on there, and their tourism jumped the next year by like 70%. It was crazy. And since then, of course, more people are showing up, and all of them are from a lot of different places. And so there you go. Maybe a hundred years ago, you could say that Iceland was very... It was.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Yeah, exactly. Absolutely. But it doesn't represent the reality that's been the case for a number of years now, and it's not a globalist plot. It's a natural occurrence of a diversifying and strengthening economy. Right. Separate pitch. Perhaps the volcano exploding was a global plot.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Alex does believe that they strategically set off volcanoes. So, there we go. I guess we're through the looking glass, and anything is everything. Anything is possible now. So, Alex gets into talking about, I can't remember his name, that Democratic donor who would bring African-American dudes into his home and then inject them like overdose allegedly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember that guy.
Starting point is 00:39:16 He's talking about that, and his commentary on it isn't worth talking about really. Yeah, I believe that. But it spins out into sort of a claim that I don't think is accurate. Okay. Well, there's something about black people, and I'm not a sickness, I don't know it, it's like the Rolling Stones just came out, sacrificed a black kid at their house in New York. It's very hard to find it, but it was in the 70s.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Dead kid at their house. Yeah, they've really tried to expunge it, but the point is, is that yeah, there's a favorite of Satanists is killing black kids, and they like to kill all kids, and little girls especially, but they love to kill black kids and drink their blood. That's exactly right, and it's all admitted now. This is the crazy thing, another example of Alex Jones has been proven right. So, he's into the Adrenochrome shit there even. That is, they just love to kill black children and drink their blood, like, come on man.
Starting point is 00:40:04 That's such a random ass bullshit thing to do too. Why are you suddenly creating some sort of weird preference for them? It's very weird, but it's also really strange. Maybe it's the least strange thing, the Tom Papert's reaction to shit like that is absolutely right Alex. You nailed it. You have been proven right again. Once again, Alex, you are knocking it out of the park, and I am doing a shitty announcer
Starting point is 00:40:26 voice. Jesus Christ. Yeah. I have legitimately no idea what Alex is talking about, about the Rolling Stones. Yeah. It's very hard to find because it doesn't exist, and it didn't happen. I kind of think he's conflating two things. The first thing is likely the killing of 18 year old Meredith Hunter at the Rolling Stones
Starting point is 00:40:43 concert at Altamont. That was a young black man who died in the proximity of the band, and I think Alex is taking that, he's combining it with another element, which is the death of Rolling Stones founding member Brian Jones back in 1969. Jones was found dead in his pool, and the circumstances surrounding the death have been the stuff of conspiracy theory and conjecture ever since. Occam's razor tells us that he was a completely insane drug addict, rock star in the late 60s who was on a path of increasingly self-destructive behavior, and him getting fucked up and drowning
Starting point is 00:41:13 in his pool accidentally isn't that surprising as a possibility. Come on. In that time period, who else was doing anything like that, Dan? Literally everyone. That's so crazy. That idea that he would be doing that out of control. Give me 38 other examples of people who died at 33. He's 27.
Starting point is 00:41:31 He's part of that club. Yeah. But you have the fact also in this case that someone made a deathbed confession that they drowned him, and all sorts of other side theories about satanic rituals and feuds with Keith Richards and Mick Jagger fly around all over the place. All of it's fascinating stuff, but ultimately it's not a story I can really disentangle for you, except to say that I think this is what Alex is combining with Altamont to turn it into a story about the Rolling Stones killing a black child at their home.
Starting point is 00:41:57 And there's something about the globalists, also he doesn't put it that way. He almost blames the victim again, like, there's something about black people. I don't know what it is, but it's their fault that the globalists love killing them. They're just too appealing to the globalists as murder victims. For sure. Yikes. Yeah. Yeah, that's weird.
Starting point is 00:42:16 That's a weird one. Yeah. So I don't know. I don't exclude the possibility that there is some urban legend story about the Rolling Stones that I just can't find, but it makes too much sense that these two elements come from two different stories, because that Brian Jones story is very big in conspiracy theory worlds. So he was absolutely aware of it.
Starting point is 00:42:35 And Altamont is a huge thing that happened in their career, and Alex isn't really big on details. No, no, no. God, when I die, I'm going to make so many deathbed confessions. There's no reason not to. I really think that you shouldn't, if only for preserving the non-confusion of people. I did 9-11. Those are my last words, Dan.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Yeah. The Ozakami is going to come in and finish you off if you do that. So I got bad news. You're not going to get to have a deathbed confession. Oh, no. Robots are going to take over. That actually doesn't make sense. And they're going to kill everyone off.
Starting point is 00:43:08 A lot of folks are cowards. They think, well, I'll just join with it. I'll be safe. No, you'll be destroyed. Okay. Because this craziness is going to run until billions are dead. And we're going to have to worship the robots. That's all in the Bible.
Starting point is 00:43:24 And they're all announced. They're going to have more rights than us. And the cyborgs. And they're all going to say they're gods. And it's all a big delusion. And then it's all going to fall in one hour. Just like a computer would. It's going to go.
Starting point is 00:43:40 And then billions are going to starve to death. In an hour? And then any globalist hiding in their underground bases are going to be dug out, dug out, dug out of their holes. All of this will happen before this generation's dead. Watch it happen. Tom Pappert. God, I want that more often.
Starting point is 00:44:03 I think I kept that in just for that end there. That needs to be a regular thing on every TV show. Billions of people are going to starve. And then we're going to dig the globalist out of their hole and kill them. This is going to happen in our generation. It will happen. How say you, Tom Pappert? No, I want that to be how people throw to like a weather, a weatherman just local news
Starting point is 00:44:25 just like in the news today, billions of people are going to die tomorrow. Everything's going to end in an hour. We are going to kill our enemies. All right. Dan, over to you with weather. It's even more brusque than that though. Just be like, Dan, it's so fucked up. So weird.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Pappert have to add to that, not only that, but Alex, we're going to have fun yelling the globalist. Are we doing yes and yes, that's basically what they're doing. So anyway, their plan is to kill everybody, which Alex reiterates in this next clip, but he also makes a claim that I would love for him to prove. I want to read his Bible because it seems so much more interesting than the one I grew up with. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:11 It's being built to make you obsolete and extinct humans by this generation in BC news. The plan is to kill you. They're already killing your fertility. They're already lowering your IQ so you can't fight. Yeah, that's exactly right. But let me tell you, you're aware of this and ask God for guidance. Literally God comes in and it boosts your IQ. You don't have to be possessed by a demon and want to rape kids and think, wow, this
Starting point is 00:45:34 is amazing. You can actually have God come into you. You want that you Satanists don't understand anything and how powerful God is. You couldn't even handle it, believe me. You're absolutely right. Right about everything. God, what a fucking toadie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Even if you love him, Jesus Christ. It's pretty sad. Everything. I would love for Alex to substantiate in any way that accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior has a demonstrable effect on your IQ. No, I'm pretty sure because that's the claim he's making. You become a Christian, your IQ goes up. That it's science.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Actually, it's not science. It's faith, Dan. And I know that I know that I know. I would love to see a study on this. I'd love for Alex to in any way back this up. He can't and he's just talking shit. But this is, you know, we've already seen shades of pretty white nationalist white supremacist ass thinking.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Yeah. And now we have this wrinkle of like real Christian supremacy. Like he's indicating in some way that there is a substantive difference between you the minute before you become a Christian and after from a IQ standpoint, and that's weird. And he doesn't even bother with the whole baptism angle of like you go down under the water and then you come back up smarter. It's just like, Hey, I'm going to be cool with Jesus. Bam.
Starting point is 00:46:57 I'm a genius. Sure. And I would say that, I mean, Alex is an example of somebody who has done all of the steps towards this Christianity that he believes in. He is absolutely someone who would be an example of the after. Wow. And I don't see you. Take a look.
Starting point is 00:47:12 I don't see a very smart person here. Absolute proof. Jordan. This next clip is a game. Okay. Okay. So he's going to talk about how he talked about fantasy island and then he started getting a bunch of fantasy island ads on his phone.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I want you to listen to this clip very intently and after it's done, tell me if you can guess my theory about why he's talking about this. All right. And two weeks ago, I said, watch in the room. I said, let's talk about fantasy island.
Starting point is 00:47:39 And then a few days later, everybody goes, yeah, fantasy island popped up in my Yahoo feed, my Google feed on YouTube. I've never even talked about that in my life and I'm like, yeah, look, it's all fantasy island. I was talking to him. Because we had a conversation about fantasy island. Right. Today I was hiking with my wife and I said, watch, okay, and the phone was off and I said,
Starting point is 00:47:56 watch, I'm going to say racist stuff and you watch while we're hiking. The phone is going to bloop and turn on and I started saying it as a test and she goes, oh my God, it turned on and it was sending data, it was recording and you're like, what is it? Again, folks, it's incredible. I did that as a test there. Do you know what my theory is? He said some racist shit and then found out that his phone was on and he was on a butt
Starting point is 00:48:22 dial or something like that. Either that or he realized, like he looked over to the side and saw someone there. Yeah. And then the head of the story in case someone was like, I was hiking at Alex was yelling the N word. That is, I hear that is such a cover. That is the weakest cover too. That is real racist out on a hike with my wife.
Starting point is 00:48:42 And I am really fucking worried that I need a context for this. I wasn't being racist. I was demonstrating what a racist would do and how it turns on your phone when you're racist. There you go. I proved it. Everybody. I'm not actually racist.
Starting point is 00:48:58 I'm demonstrating racism. It's a completely different thing. What are you going to edit Tom Sawyer now and Huckleberry Finn? Huh? Yeah. I think this is cover. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I would suspect he even made up this fantasy island story in order to allow him to make this cover story for his racist outburst along with his wife while I fucking Christ. Yep. That's what I see there. So Alex starts freaking out a little bit about his court case, which I understand why he would do that.
Starting point is 00:49:28 It doesn't look great for him on a lot of fronts. Yeah. But then it goes exactly the direction you'd expect. They're of their father, the devil, the Clintons, all of them, look at them, thank God you're not with them. I'm ready to die for Christ. I'm not scared of Blumenthal. I'm not scared of Hillary.
Starting point is 00:49:47 I'm not scared of Obama. I'm scared of not being with God, you know, God always provides just what we need. I'd like to have a bigger award chest to really expand. Hmm. Go get our products 50% off right now when you get brain force with our new chill force that isn't a depress. It's not a depress. That is.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Well, obviously it's not a depressant, or at least it has a small half life because he is not on chill force anymore. Yeah. That's, I mean, that's pretty, we were talking about sacrilegiousness a little bit earlier, and I think that's in that conversation. Oh, yeah. You think there might be some money changing in the temple going on? Dreaming about how I'm only afraid of God.
Starting point is 00:50:29 I will die for Christ. Three second pause, $300,000. Thank you. Three second pause. And then, you know, I'd love more money, products by them products. And then you too can fight for Christ. So at this point, Tom Pappert is out of the mix and Alex gets own Troyer in studio. This just becomes an incredibly disgraceful punching homeless people section.
Starting point is 00:50:57 It just becomes them like yelling about homeless people pooping on the street. That's really a lot of what they're talking about. And it's not worth talking about for the most part, except a couple of really weird things Alex says. And here's the first one of like, he has a theory about why people allow homeless people to exist. Oh, no. And then the city council decided to amend the city ordinance in July, saying it's now
Starting point is 00:51:24 legal to camp out on the city sidewalk, you know, poop on the city sidewalk, sleep on the city side, including people's houses, anything you want to do. It's all good now. From the businesses, restaurants. And so, you know, you'll just pull up at the restaurant. There's this eight people laughing at you, shooting up heroin, pooping everywhere. And so this is going on, but it seemingly happened overnight. And in fact, you understand, it's a spiritual invasion force, though.
Starting point is 00:51:48 The left doesn't just cater to it and make money off of it and skin the cash. This is these higher level demons like don't materialize until their gremlin force is there. So it's like for each major demon possession that happens, I think that have a certain number of gremlins, humans to carry lower servant demons. So I think that's why the left brings all this in and celebrates it is to get the servant demons into position so that they can bring in a heavy hitter. Yeah. And it's kind of a subtle way.
Starting point is 00:52:14 I'm not kidding. I think it's important that he's not kidding. That's an important clarification that I'm not fucking around. They bring in lower servant demons, which you heard that and went, what the fuck is he talking about? Just to be sure. I'm not joking about it. I am dead serious about low level demons being needed in order to bring in a high level
Starting point is 00:52:42 demon. Oh my God. Yikes. You know, one of you know, one of my huge things is don't fucking talk about the homeless. Well, especially in like abusive ways that are so reductive and like, especially blaming people for their experience of homelessness when largely there's there have been a lot of studies that have been done about, you know, systemic reasons that a lot of people are in the situations they're in.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Absolutely. It's disgraceful and awful to have people, especially people like Alex. Take, take such a target of a vulnerable population. And I think that's why they do it. And Owen does too, because he's cool bro, Alex. That's so fucking sick. How do you not look at that and go, this is clearly a structural or a structural issue that we are all failing these people?
Starting point is 00:53:34 No, instead they look at it and they're like, look at those people, they're lower servant demons. Fuck off. Yeah, it's pretty wild. And in Alex's defense, I say facetiously, he is also coming from a place of the homeless have wronged him. Oh, fuck me. And I believe this story that he tells to be not true.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Okay. I don't know that it's true. I was saying something racist to a homeless person in the forest. It would be literally impossible for me to get to the bottom of this, but I've never heard him bring this up before. And it doesn't sound true. I mean, my cousin in Seattle got bitten by a homeless person. He was giving a 10.
Starting point is 00:54:12 He worked for Microsoft. He became homeless. Make it $300,000 a year. He was giving a $10 bill, $10 bill to a homeless person, another one bidding. He got a blood infection, had liver failure and it took him a few years to die. But a homeless zombie killed my cousin. I don't know about this story. Really?
Starting point is 00:54:35 That sounds like it would actually be a national news story if that were true. Yeah. Wouldn't it be fucking... And it's Alex Jones' cousin. Of course it would be a national news story. He would never shut up about it. And he's a $300,000 a year software developer in Seattle. Like it's...
Starting point is 00:54:57 Yeah, absolutely. It seems like something that would leave a trace of something. I can't find anything about it. I tried to Google various terms and I can't... I don't know. I can't figure this out. But it does not seem true. No, because that's a literal zombie story.
Starting point is 00:55:12 That's literal. Of course it would be national news. Every media organization would be like, affluent white man dies of bite. Like that. Yeah. A couple of years later. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Alex has a personal grievance and I think it's not true, but he is very creative.
Starting point is 00:55:27 I'll give him that. This big thing that he is pushing for towards the end of this episode is, look, you know, the globalists are bringing in the homeless people to shit on the street in downtown. So why don't we send them to the city council members' houses? Now this is all good and well to sort of joke about. But what Alex is describing is a targeted harassment campaign, which is kind of what he's getting sued for right now in the Sandy Hook situation. The way he conceptualizes this and the fact that in this next clip, he will say, I'm going
Starting point is 00:56:04 to pay homeless people to go to their houses, okay, could get him in trouble if he pursues this plan. Man. But I'm serious. I think we should find where all the city council members that voted for this and I think we should encourage and go online because the homeless are holding iPads and phones they're giving to. We should invite everybody and say, we're going to have free barbecue at their house
Starting point is 00:56:23 and then we should give them money to camp in front of their houses. That's it. Well, that's it. That's the operation. We will bring the scum of the earth to their house. That's really disgusting. The scum of the earth to their house. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:38 That's really disgusting and it's framing, it's conception, but it's also like that is legally iffy. And I mean, Owen is in there with him. And at one point he does say like, I think that might be illegal. About one of Alex's ideas about, oh, no, because he's saying. That's why you got to have peppered on. He's saying, he's saying we could have them poo on like the city council members car. And Owen's like, I think encouraging that might be a crime.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Yeah. Yeah. So it's just like, that's no wonder you get peppered on there because he's going to be like, I'll poop on that car for you, Alex, tell me anything and I'll do it. Well, actually, Owen and him are discussing how Owen should go to city council and shit on the city council and Owen's like shit on the city council sidewalk that kind of thing. I think so. And Owen's like, I've done a lot of stuff for him for wars.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Are you, are you saying I got to pull it to say, I got to do it to really almost seems like he's willing to be talked into it, but is also making a joke out of it, which is probably the smart thing to do because Valix pursues any of these plans, especially like paying people to go harass folks. And I'm much shadier territory. I've, I've never said this before because generally speaking, it's the worst thing that could happen, but Owen Troyer definitely should have made a joke about this. Generally speaking, when he jokes, it's the worst thing I've ever heard in my entire life.
Starting point is 00:58:00 You need to deflect this a little. So I skipped Sunday because I've noticed that Sunday episodes are a real waste of my time lately. He's not even trying. He sometimes doesn't show up. It's just like, it's not even worth it. Even when he shows up, he's barely there. He knows that the almost no one's listening to his show on Sundays.
Starting point is 00:58:19 They're too busy going to church and fighting lower servant demons of some sort. Exactly. So he jumped in on Monday, the 10th, and by this point, the news had broken that there was a potential meeting between Trump and Taliban leaders that had been canceled and there's a lot of brouhaha about that. Alex does not care about that meeting at all. Of course. He doesn't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Does not want to start talking about the president and Taliban leaders in a room together. Yeah. And I don't know what Alex's take on it should be, you know, I don't, I expected him to have a position and he doesn't really seem to have a position because I think it's overwhelmed by the fact that John Bolton got fired. And so Alex is more into that angle and doing research on this whole kettle of fish that has been the Taliban invited to Camp David and then did Trump cancel it or did somebody else cancel it?
Starting point is 00:59:19 The word is, is that Mr. Bolton likes to leak stuff to the press and that is why he is out. The man is a neocon. The man is a warmonger. The man has serious issues and I respected the president enough that I've not made a huge issue out of it because the president overalls had good policies and obviously wasn't listening to Bolton who would have us in World War three if he could. I'd like to take you back to the day that John Bolton was named national security advisor. There we go.
Starting point is 00:59:51 And here Alex is. I was waiting for it. I was waiting for it. At that point. Yeah. We got Roger Stone popping in to give us his take on Donald Trump's new national security advisor, Mr. Bolton, who a lot of people really don't like, including myself because he still pushes the failed Iraq war and other things like that.
Starting point is 01:00:16 But the word is on Bolton, he knows all the connections. He knows all the players in the State Department, in the UN, in the Pentagon and that he will be an apparatchik or a tool, a effective munchkin to use his words to carry out the policies that the president wants carried out and that he won't sit there and leak information. Oops. That's specifically the opposite of Alex's claims now. So good.
Starting point is 01:00:50 So here's just a little bit more from that episode just to reinforce that it was Roger Stone telling him like, hey, Bolton's cool. He's stone. Absolutely lying to him about whatever Bolton was 100% Roger Stone, who's friends with the new national security advisor, good friends with him, they drink whiskey and play poker together for 30 years. So he'll be giving us his take on him. He likes Bolton and he says Bolton is an apparatchik and that means he will follow
Starting point is 01:01:20 Trump's orders and will not leak in his dog like in his loyalty. So that's the case, even though I disagree with some of Boyle's views, then I trust the president. Danny Boyle. Right. The director. He didn't like the beach. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:38 All these things that Alex is saying in the present day about John Bolton were well known when Trump brought him into the administration. All these negative things. He's a neocon. He's a warmonger. As we heard, those are all points that Alex fought back. He brought up and denied. He didn't deny that they were true, but they weren't they weren't that important.
Starting point is 01:01:56 He like he's going to work for Trump. He's an apparatchik. Yeah. He's a useful tool. He's an idiot who's going to kick people to the curb should they need such. Exactly. It's all Roger Stone. Well, Roger Stone tricked Alex and Alex in turn tricked his audience into being okay
Starting point is 01:02:12 with it. Now Alex is saying the opposite. Yeah. He knows he has a really naive, gullible audience and Roger Stone exploited them through Alex. What's great about this narrative flip is that now Alex gets to pretend that John Bolton was responsible for all sorts of things that Trump's done that haven't gone great. Hey, man, things aren't really working out the way we'd like with North Korea, but don't worry.
Starting point is 01:02:33 That was just because Bolton was sabotaging things. It's a very boring game that's become very routine at this point. Whenever Trump casts someone out of the White House, it becomes like, well, that was the problem. Yeah, exactly. And so we get to see that all over again kind of an Alex gets to pretend that because I mean, okay, if you want to talk about like the strictest interpretation of things, Alex did say negative things about Bolton when he got, of course, but he also overcame those
Starting point is 01:02:58 bad things because of Roger Strange. So now he gets to pretend that like, Hey, I said those negative things about him back then and pretend that he didn't try and make it okay. The boldness being nominated, saving his cake and eating it too. So now we learn in this next clip that Trump has a temper, which is not something that Alex has talked about all that much in the past. But this doesn't sound good and I can tell you that Trump is screaming at people screaming at them, which believe me, that goes on behind the scenes at the White House, a lot of screaming
Starting point is 01:03:34 it looks very composed and very together out in public. But behind the scenes, Mr. Volcano, he's either super slick and nice and friendly and as you can or he starts screaming at people and telling them they're idiots and they're morons and they're incompetent. And that's what Trump does. Alpha male characteristic, not not not obviously fun for those around it, but Trump really is trying really does care. It's exactly the way he describes like Hillary Clinton in private, like she yells at people
Starting point is 01:04:05 and like, I don't know, I do understand, but it's so funny to me that he can go and like just for like, for years, he's been screaming about how Hillary Clinton yells at people behind the scenes and he could turn around to be like, you know, Hey, with Trump, it's one of those things. He's a volcano. It's alpha male behavior. He really cares. And then with Hillary, it's proof.
Starting point is 01:04:24 She's a demon. Yeah. Like it's crazy. Trump is a man and Hillary is not. So it's okay for Trump to do this. So now we've got the trifecta of white things, Christian supremacy and male priority. Yeah, man, that's if Alex knows that it sure seems like he really believes that story that Trump's second wife in her memoir told.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Oh, maybe. Maybe. I think he probably believes that it sure sounds like it fits with his pattern of behavior. Very smooth. Or he's screaming at you, calling you an idiot, which also just like sounds like a terrible person to be around. Yeah. Of course it does.
Starting point is 01:05:04 So he's a terrible person and a fucking rapist. So in this next clip, Alex talks about the, the, the, he gets into some drag, tweet, drag queen story time issues. Yeah. Yeah. And I think there's actually, there's something a little bit worth pointing out in this clip. I don't want to belabor this since we talked about it when he's covered it a bunch of the past.
Starting point is 01:05:27 But I do think there's a slightly side issue that's important. In major newspapers, like the Wichita, Kansas Eagle, they're like, oh, local parents, when they take the kids on the field trip and elementary school to the library to sit on a lap of drag queens, they want background checks done. That's homophobic. We're not going to do background checks is the question. They won't even do background checks when the law says everybody else at the library has to have it.
Starting point is 01:05:54 And it turns out a large portion are convicted pedos. Of course they are the two running the Houston, when we're both convicted child or rapist, one raped a six year old brutally, other an eight year old. So look, here's the thing. The story that Alex is talking about is naturally being presented like the Wichita stories presented with zero context. And honestly, I think what he's doing kind of is close to something that could be legally actionable as slander.
Starting point is 01:06:22 So the Wichita story involves a library floating the possibility of specifically running background checks for sex offenses only on participants in the drag queen story hour. Now this obviously is an issue for a number of reasons. The first is that any real background check they would be doing would turn up sex offenses. So this is kind of redundant and targeted framing of the issue. By publicizing that they're specifically running background checks for sex offenses for participants, the outcome is that people couple the idea of drag queens and the LGBTQ community as a whole as being related to sex crimes.
Starting point is 01:06:56 We have to investigate specifically these people for specifically this issue. I'm not saying that these people are specifically geared towards committing this specific issue, but you draw the conclusion. It's my understanding from looking into this a bunch, since Alex won't stop talking about it, that most library systems do routine background checks on people who are running events for children. I think that's probably an appropriate thing to do, regardless of who the person is running the event.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Absolutely. If it's a drag queen story hour or a second amendment reading shoot nanny, as long as the policy isn't selectively enforced and used as a means of marginalization, it feels like it's the library's right to do that. It doesn't feel like that is what the policy is about in Wichita, however. This does feel like it's selective and meant to target the LGBTQ community as evidenced by released library minutes from a meeting reflecting that this proposal was brought to the table by a noted anti-LGBTQ pastor named Craig Coffey.
Starting point is 01:07:54 He seems to be interested in the targeting and marginalization side of this possible policy change. Quote from Craig. I would like to target and marginalize these certain types of group. How do we go about doing that? From the minutes, quote, your actions constitute child abuse. Drag queens are part of the adult entertainment industry. Children are much too young to be exposed to the LGBTQ agenda and their brand of immoral
Starting point is 01:08:18 and unhealthy sexual practices. Children model what they see and hear. Perverse activities such as this used to be found only in back alleys, seedy porthouses, and dark closets. What used to be practiced in the dark is now being foisted into the public in daylight. He goes on to say, quote, one of the stated goals of the LGBTQ agenda is to browbeat and indoctrinate the public while gaining access to our children through government schools, the mainstream media, public libraries, politics, and public policy, and any other
Starting point is 01:08:47 means to promote their perversity. It is irresponsible behaviors like this that contribute to the hate and division we now see in the nation. We are indeed in a culture war. I was making up my quote, but it turns out that I should have gone a lot further. This is not a man who is concerned with whether or not the drag queens telling stories or sex offenders are not. He wants them to be gone from society, or at least to stay in the back alleys, seedy
Starting point is 01:09:10 porthouses, and dark closets. He's against their existence, particularly in public, and their inclusion in a larger society. So he wants to create as great a campaign against them as possible. That's the motivation behind a campaign like the one he's engaged in. Stir up a bunch of shit about sex offender background checks about these people and whether or not you find any offenders, you will have succeeded in associating the story hour participants as being sex offenders.
Starting point is 01:09:34 This is really shady shit, particularly when the motivation is so clearly just to make members of the LGBTQ community not feel welcome and be as a part of society. Absolutely. Coffee runs a church called the Refiners Family Church in Derby, Kansas, which is 12 miles outside of Wichita. Oh, so it personally affects him greatly, I assume. It's his personal library. He drives 12 miles to go to that specific library, I assume.
Starting point is 01:09:57 I mean, Derby is a town of over 22,000 people and has a library large enough that it's mentioned in its Wikipedia page about the city. Yeah, but I mean, he likes that Wichita library. So I mean, it's pretty cool that this out of town preacher is making what a library in a city he doesn't live in his business, but I guess that's the culture war. I think that's it's because of them that I have to drive 12 miles to a library that I don't visit. His church doesn't have its own building.
Starting point is 01:10:23 They meet in a room they rent in the Derby Golf and Country Club, which I will say from everything I can find is the church is a bit polarizing. A church in a golf club is even more literally money changers in the fucking temple. So the church seems a little polarizing. There's a site called Church Finder where people can leave reviews of church and there are two reviews of this one and they are, quote, thank God this church is not a gay bar and another one, quote, come as you are unless you're gay. It strikes me as this might be something this coffee guy talks about a lot, this subject.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Sounds like it. So from there, you know, what you've got is this guy who has a clear anti-LGBTQ stance and is against them, puts forth this motion in the library meeting and from there the right wing is more than capable to take the ball and run with it. If you read what coffee is suggesting to the library board, it's very clear that he's a gigantic homophobe and someone who's worried about the quote, gay agenda. So it makes sense that if you're on that board, you might not want to go along with everything he's saying.
Starting point is 01:11:29 If the board is at all resistant to his message and his demands, it's so easy for the blogs and shithead websites to frame the situation as something like, quote, Kansas Library Board divided on whether to let sex offenders present to children, which is no fucking way. Which is a real headline. No, fuck yourself. From LifeSite News. Go fuck yourself. Right.
Starting point is 01:11:50 God damn it. Ultimately, the reality is if this were a Bible reading or Second Amendment book shooting Annie, none of these people would even suspect or be concerned about the possibility that one of the presenters might be a sex offender. They're only concerned because of their preexisting bigotry towards the LGBTQ community. Perhaps the ultimate irony is that all of these people are right wing, anti-state people and they're demanding that the state run background checks on people, which I believe I've heard called tyranny when it's done in related to gun purchases.
Starting point is 01:12:17 I hate these people so much because this is the same group of people who are like white male Christians are being specifically targeted and harassed and they're being treated as a minority and they're trying to kill us all. At the same time, I would like everybody here to target this minority and treat them like the awful people that they are and so on and so forth and it's like fuck you. Just shut, just don't even talk, just screech because that might as well be what you're saying. You don't mean anything.
Starting point is 01:12:47 Yeah. It's confusing and not confusing. So we've got over this but the case in Houston that everyone relies on to be like there are sex offenders. There have been tons of them, as far as I can tell there are these two in Houston. It was a situation where background checks are already required for all people who hold events at the library but the library didn't follow their own procedures in this case. The only real angle of outrage that you should have is be upset that the library didn't do
Starting point is 01:13:14 their job. And in this case, again, the publicity surrounding the event was not led by people who are concerned with whether or not these people are sex offenders. It was led by a group called Mass Resistance who are an aggressively anti-LGBT group as a whole. And their goal wasn't to make sure that the library is a safe place for children, it's to marginalize a community. The fact that these events have been going on all over the country for a while now and
Starting point is 01:13:37 this Houston situation is really the only one these people ever point to as justification for the contention that there are tons of pedophiles in the drag queen story hours. It's all a big plot to get your kids. That kind of leads me to believe that they're wrong. You have aggressively interested parties like Mass Resistance and tons of anti-LGBTQ organizations pouring over criminal databases and sending out FOIA requests. So you'd definitely be seeing way more stories if they found anything. The issue for Alex, where I think that he's getting himself into trouble, possibly legally,
Starting point is 01:14:11 is that he's speaking in specifics that don't really match reality. He's saying that the two offenders in Houston were leaders of that group because he wants to create the perception that they were running the show as a means of grooming children. Of course. Neither was a leader of the event and honestly, I think that this could easily be construed as defamation of the actual leaders of the group. The leaders and organizers of the Houston chapter are Trent Leera and Devin Will and neither of them are sex offenders and in fact they've discussed the revelations that people
Starting point is 01:14:39 who had volunteered for their event had concealed their past actions from them candidly. It was devastating for them as they obviously didn't know about these convictions and they'd followed the library's policies and the library were the ones who failed up to hold their end of the bargain. One important point is that when this story is covered, right wing sites don't just use pictures of the drag queens who were sex offenders. Of course not. They use pictures of every drag queen there ever was.
Starting point is 01:15:07 Well, not necessarily. They don't really, but the point is that they don't really care whether or not they're using the picture of the right person and this has caused very serious issues. From an article in the Houstonian magazine by one of the Houston chapters founders, quote, the most upsetting outcome is the hate Blackberry, that's one of the drag queens, has faced because of this controversy. She's become the canvas onto which these right wing pundits project their hatred and fear.
Starting point is 01:15:32 An African-American with a beard and a face full of makeup. Breitbart.com has since misidentified her as the drag sex offender in question. It isn't her fault. She has a clean record and is one of the most prolific drag performers in the city. She's done nothing wrong. How could she have known when we invited her to read a story to a handful of children that it would evolve into death threats and national scorn? How could any of us?
Starting point is 01:15:56 These are delicate issues and they're being intentionally packaged as anti-LGBTQ propaganda by people like Alex. It's disgraceful, it's bigoted, and probably worst of all, it doesn't do anything to solve the issues that they're pretending to be concerned about. They don't care about appropriate background checks, even if every drag queen or king was thoroughly vetted perfectly, they'd find some other association and accusation to lob at them because it's not about background checks, it's about their unwillingness to accept certain types of people being allowed to exist in society.
Starting point is 01:16:27 So yeah, give everyone background checks. As long as it's universally applied, I don't see a problem with that. I think that's actually a good thing. Absolutely. What is this? The fucking 70s? Anybody's just gonna walk into a library and start reading to people? Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:16:40 Yeah. I would not forget to be very clear that people like Alex and all of these people should go straight up fuck themselves for their duplicitous actions in this case. I don't care what you have to say, even if it's applicable, if you're making a bad faith argument. Right. I don't fucking care. And this is entirely?
Starting point is 01:16:59 Absolutely. It's, it's, it's crazy. The minutes, the minutes for that are so revealing, so revealing, because here's, here's what you say. If you're, if you're doing this, just say, I think we should have background checks for people who read here. Right. That's it.
Starting point is 01:17:18 And then you get away. There's no reason to rant about the LGBTQ agenda. Exactly. Unless. If that strengthens your argument. Right. Because it doesn't. No.
Starting point is 01:17:27 If he walked in there and said, I think we should have background checks for everybody, they'd be like, I think that's a good idea. Now granted, you still have to sort of like understand that the only reason that conversation is even happening coming from this guy is because of his preexisting feelings and bigotries. Right. But, you know, like I said, most of the libraries that I've looked into that are related to any of these stories already have this rule in place. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:55 If there is a library that doesn't, then absolutely there should be a conversation that it should be. It's kind of gross that the conversation is being spurred by this. But I think it's probably a very small number of libraries that don't already have this in place. Whatever the case is, it's all dishonest framing and it's all fucking stupid. So anyway, we move along and in this next clip, Alex, he's on some gun paranoia shit and he lies quite a bit.
Starting point is 01:18:24 And I'm going to get into this critical report that I have right here in my stack. There's going to be a forced blood test. That's right. On certain people in America. And then if the blood test says you've got a certain thing, they're going to take your guns. Now, that's in the Wall Street Journal, hidden in plain view. Remember, my specialty is telling you what they're really saying in an article because
Starting point is 01:18:58 I got the back story. That's hilarious. So that is a great way of meaning I can lie about whatever is in this article. Remember when I read you the article and it says the opposite of what I say. That's my specialty. My specialty is to tell you that what I say is what they actually meant to say, but they can't say it. So it's not a lie.
Starting point is 01:19:20 My specialty is being particularly convincing in my nonsensical, disconnected, disjointed worldview. So this is legitimately bullshit. What Alex is lying about is a new article discussing breakthroughs regarding post-traumatic stress disorder. One of the difficulties with PTSD diagnoses involves the stigma that comes along with the condition. Often patients are unwilling or resistant to disclose their symptoms for fear of being
Starting point is 01:19:42 labeled crazy, which really only makes things worse. A group of researchers set out to see if there were any indicators that they could find that would prove as an effective screen for physical markers of people suffering from PTSD and their findings were recently written up in the latest issue of molecular psychiatry. They found 27 chemical signatures, which when combined with heart rate readings, were found to have an accuracy of 81% distinguishing whether a person had a pre-existing diagnosis of PTSD. Oh, that's interesting.
Starting point is 01:20:12 So to explain, they had a group and they was double blind, they didn't know which people were which, but half of them had been diagnosed with PTSD and half hadn't. And their test had an 81% accuracy in distinguishing between the two. Yes. Which is really, really good. It's very interesting. Very interesting. It's very clear, however, that, quote, the results aren't diagnostic, but instead serve
Starting point is 01:20:34 to screen someone for how likely they are to have PTSD, which is to say that just testing positive with their set doesn't qualify as indicative of a diagnosis, just to sign that it's maybe something someone should explore more. There are pretty big limitations with their study and they're clear about it. Like it's not a knock on the study at all. It's just limitations of what they were able to do. For instance, the sample pool of people they tested on were only 56 people and they were all male combat veterans.
Starting point is 01:21:00 So it's unclear if these same chemical markers would be applicable to people in other populations, but that's something that merits further study. There'll need to be a ton more studies before this will ever be used in a clinical or diagnostic setting. I really just want the media to never talk about any study that's published in a journal, like unless it's done. Do you know what I mean? Because this particular study is done, but it just requires further study.
Starting point is 01:21:27 No, exactly. Unless like they have, we've proven that we can do this and it begins tomorrow at every hospital in the country. Let's report on that. But every other story is always like, we will continue to study this. And then you have people like Alex Jones making bullshit up about it. Yeah, but I mean, Alex is going to make up bullshit about whatever anyway. Yeah, that's fair.
Starting point is 01:21:48 They didn't come out with indications about this or stories about this progress that's being made. Quite frankly, Alex would claim they're covering it up or something. That's fair. That's fair. God, I hate these people so much. The thing is that Alex hears something like this and his first thought is that there's a blood test they're going to use to try and force everyone to take so they can get my
Starting point is 01:22:06 guns. And that's just abhorrent. People who suffer from PTSD are living in a certain kind of hell and anything that can be done to get them the treatment they need to be able to live again, there's something very positive for them subjectively and for society objectively. Alex doesn't care about alleviating the suffering of people who are truly experiencing something awful. He doesn't give a fuck because his overarching paranoia doesn't allow him to that is monstrous
Starting point is 01:22:30 shit. I have nothing more to say about that other than boo. Yeah, no kidding. So Alex gets into the media lies about Trump, right? You know that. Do they? All they do is lie about Trump. I don't know if that's true.
Starting point is 01:22:47 And that makes Alex love him more. Okay, well that I do believe. Yes. It makes you love Trump. It makes you want to defend Trump because all they do is lie. It's like saying he had the Air Force stop at his airport and at his resort golf course in Scotland to make money. Meanwhile, the Air Force decided to land at that airport that Trump doesn't own.
Starting point is 01:23:06 And the Air Force officers decided to stay at the hotel because it's one place hippies won't spit on him. I stay at Trump Hotel in D.C. because I'll shake a lot of hands at another hotel, but in many I'll be basically thrown out of it. I'll be harassed. I'll be screamed at. My food will be spit in. I got a high, I guess hide out in the, you know, conservative ghetto over at the Trump
Starting point is 01:23:30 Hotel. I'm being sarcastic. It's very, very nice. Did he just do an ad for Trump hotel properties? A little bit. Only place conservatives can be safe. Damn it. I can definitely understand why Alex is trying to deflect this story about Trump Scotland
Starting point is 01:23:43 Hotel, the Trump Turnberry resort. If he dealt with it critically, it would really expose how much of a bootlicking hypocrite he's become. The issue with Trump's hotel goes like this. There was a refueling stop that could be made at the Prestwick Airport, which no one is claiming Trump owns. However, he does have a hotel nearby. And if military or government personnel are more frequently stopping at that specific
Starting point is 01:24:04 hotel without a other good reason, it does tend to indicate that something corrupt is up. No, it's because he, as the president, he gives, he cares so much about the military and the Air Force that it gives them free room and board at his hotels, right? Not necessarily. Oh, he doesn't. In 2015, the military stopped at this airport for refueling 95 times. So far this year, they've stopped there 259 times and the increase doesn't seem to be
Starting point is 01:24:29 related to an uptick in travel that would explain the rise. Making matters more concerning in 2015, there were only 40 overnight stays for personnel at that location, not the hotel, like at that airport overnight stays required. That number jumped when Trump was elected. And this year, there have been 220 overnight stays logged, which is an over 500% increase in overnight stays at the airport that happens to be near one of Trump's properties. Huh. But it's not like Trump had a business arrangement with Prestwick Airport, because that would
Starting point is 01:25:01 be crazy. I regret to inform you that Donald Trump does indeed have a business arrangement with Prestwick Airport. There it is. The Guardian, among other news outlets, have reported that Trump and Prestwick entered into an arrangement where Trump's resort offered cut price lodging for people flying into the airport and Trump would try to steer business toward Prestwick by way of making his resort a tourist attraction.
Starting point is 01:25:23 Both the airport and resort were losing money previously, and what do you know, now they're not. This is a case where it doesn't even really matter if Trump knows what's going on or is directing the increased traffic to Prestwick. It legitimately doesn't matter, because the appearance of impropriety is strong enough that this needs to stop. The president has a pre-existing arrangement to help increase traffic to this airport, and now that he's president, the military is stopping there way fucking more than it
Starting point is 01:25:46 did before. Whether this is the result of a coordinated corruption activity or not, it does not matter. This is a consequence of having someone in office who has these sorts of conflicts of interest, and it's the exact reason why the emoluments clause exists. Jimmy Carter got rid of his peanut farm. This is in the Constitution. The document Alex professes to love so much, and his actions here are directly working to subvert that.
Starting point is 01:26:11 He knows that Trump is profiting off being president, whether he's directing corrupt behavior or not, and Alex doesn't care. He supports it. He claims the media covering a story like this is him lying about Trump, which is such through the looking-glass authoritarian propaganda that it's hard to even express what a fucking loser he's become. He's carrying water for the president to be able to profit off his being the president. It's insane, while still screaming all the fucking time about, oh, the Constitution.
Starting point is 01:26:41 The people who love the Constitution most, the people who have a copy of it, very small copy in their back pocket at all times, are watching the president shit on that Constitution, and they are eating it up. It's insane. They are eating Trump shit-covered constitutions. It's so insane. That is what they eat now. So Alex gets a little despondent in the middle of this September 10th episode, and starts
Starting point is 01:27:07 talking about how there's a very limited time left before it's all over for his peeps. And then this gets weird. I'm so mad. Do you remember how much I screamed about how he should have been impeached on day one because he was already violating the emoluments clause? That hasn't changed. God, I hate these people so much. I mean, it's the same thing with acclimating to Alex's extremism.
Starting point is 01:27:29 Like, there's a sort of numbness that you get towards like, well, yep, it's always been. I mean, you can't. It's pretty fucking over. It's ridiculous. But you can't. It's like, it's amazing to me that if you just have an authoritarian white nationalist wing of the Senate, you can never do anything for the authoritarian white nationalist grifter
Starting point is 01:27:49 president. I don't think that that's something we should be surprised by. Yeah, no, of course not. Of course not. But it's just like, it's one of those things where we should probably rewrite that Constitution if it's so easy to shit on it and force people to eat it. Well, maybe. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:28:05 Either way, Alex is keenly aware that there is a date fast approaching where he and his team will be fucked. And I think that's interesting, but I also think it's really interesting where he goes from there, which is a little bit petty by 2024. We're done. They've got the numbers. It's over. Unless all conservatives get up off their asses and I'm talking about my family, man.
Starting point is 01:28:34 I've got some great family that still have farms and ranches in the whole nine yards. They're just like, I don't ever have any. I want to slap them across the table. I want to jump on them because if they got involved, if they put their money into fighting this crap, we wouldn't be here. But you know what? They could turn coal up their ass into diamonds. Only thing they give their money to is Walmart that hates this country.
Starting point is 01:29:02 I'm telling you, all over East Texas, man, there's wealthy, well-to-do people. I've got helicopters. I know people who've got helicopters and own parts of huge tech companies and they go to the Kentucky Derby every year and they wear their big hats and well, they got a hundred. I'm going to talk about my family. I know like hundreds of millions of dollars in the bank, billions. They're all just secure and they could turn diamonds in the crap is what they've done. This crap all over the country, you make me sick.
Starting point is 01:29:32 All you stupid so-called Republicans, you're going to destroy this country. You're the enemy. I can't stand you. I won't even be around my family anymore. If you don't take action to save this country, then damn you to hell, all of you, we'll be right back. Oh, here she comes. I'm going to say, and back me up on this, if I'm right, the music choice might be incongruous.
Starting point is 01:30:02 A little bit. Man-eater might be weird there. Not a matter. Did he just describe it as he described his friends? And family. And family. And they sounded a lot like what he described as the globalist, right? Well, and it's only because they won't give him money.
Starting point is 01:30:22 Yeah. Didn't he just describe the globalist? And he was like, these are people that I hang out with all the time. They got helicopters and they're super rich and they just give money to Walmart and they won't give me money. And I pissed off about it. Doesn't he just want their money? Yes.
Starting point is 01:30:35 That is all that's about. And Walmart hates America because they won't sell certain types of ammo now, obviously. But that's all that's about. That vitriol and that anger is really, like you can tell from what he's saying. That's all about like, my family won't give me money. My cousins are rich and I want their money and they won't give it to me. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 01:30:53 Because that makes it funnier, but I think there's something really important that we need to talk about at the beginning of that clip. Alex couldn't make it more clear that he's a white nationalist unless he just started screaming, I'm a white nationalist. When he's talking about the idea that Democrats are going to have the numbers. I don't get it. By 2024, he's not talking about some kind of political phenomenon. He's explicitly signaling to the ethnic demographic anxiety crowd.
Starting point is 01:31:21 Most of the fears about whites becoming a minority are framed as being about the year 2045. That's the year that's constantly cited as the point at which white people will make up just slightly less than 50% of the US population, which of course is a fate worse than death to these people. Well, absolutely. How will they continue to control everything and destroy it? Some of this traces back to work put out by the Brookings Institute, who made this exact
Starting point is 01:31:43 prediction in a report published last September. The 2045 date is a big talking point. If you look at the graphs of their projections, 2024 is also a very important point for people who are super invested in white identity. That's the year that the white population will have an annual growth rate of 0%, meaning the birth and death rate will be equivalent. This is an essentially important date for white nationalists because it's the turning point after which the white population will begin decreasing, which again is something
Starting point is 01:32:12 that they don't see as a natural phenomenon in open societies as much as they see it as a prong and an international plan set out by evil globalists to commit white genocide. That sounds right. This rant is about nothing except his demographic fears. This is why panic embodied. It's scary and sad on one level, but it's also kind of hilarious on another. He's so afraid of white people not being the majority in the country that he completely flips out and starts screaming about how his rich relatives don't give him money.
Starting point is 01:32:38 It's the embodiment of pathetic, entitled bigotry. Yep. If it's not, I don't know what is. It's so overt to me. I guess maybe the surviving Koch brother doing it. That would be that would be very pathetic narcissism. Chuck, please. So I think Alex is in bad shape financially and emotionally.
Starting point is 01:33:01 And I think he's pretty clearly real into white business. So it is this next clip I think is going to piss some people off and understandably so. And I keep this in because, you know, it's important to know what Alex believes, even if it's like this is terrible. Yeah. But I find this to be pretty terrible. So they were projections onto things that already existed and named real things going on.
Starting point is 01:33:31 He's talking about the beginning of psychiatric conditions and psychological conditions. These doctors came around and they pointed to real things, but they acted like they were new or something. Okay. Then it gets worse. But then acted like they had invented them as if bipolar really is a thing or schizophrenic it really is a thing. It's a whole bunch of things.
Starting point is 01:33:54 Are they poisoned? Are they genetically inbred? Are they really being influenced by something? You know, is it a spirit? Is it a dimensional program? Why are the archetypes so strong even beyond what's in our genetics as an interface? And they all know this and so psychology, psychiatry became a tool of oppression. So all the psychiatric conditions and all that shit, it's real, but it's probably poison
Starting point is 01:34:23 inbreeding or demons. Did he join Scientology or something? Man. What the fuck was that? It's pretty crazy. So his, the entirety of psychiatry is based off of telling people who are either poisoned genetically inbred, which tell me more about genetically inbreeding Alex or possessed by demons.
Starting point is 01:34:48 So they tell those three groups, if not all three in the same person, I assume I am all three of them. Absolutely. They put a name on it. They put a name on it. So they never go and solve that whole demon possession problem. They can add new names and oppress them as opposed to giving them, I guess, an exorcism right, right, right, or a massive amount of supplements.
Starting point is 01:35:13 I assume that would also help with these, which might give you lead poisoning. Yeah, I mean, it's I find that incredibly offensive just from a mental health standpoint. I think it's really disgusting to behave this way, especially considering it sounds like somebody told him he had some sort of schizophrenia and he decided that he was actually just poisoned or possessed by a demon. I guess you got to do a cleanse. I think it's dangerous. On the one hand, though, I actually kind of, I mean, there's a kernel of like, well, at
Starting point is 01:35:42 least he believes conditions are real. You know, at least it's such a sad, a sad state of affairs that like that is like your bright side. Alex, the bar has been set so low. Yeah, you have finally jumped over it into a further middling morass of garbage. Yeah. He starts taking some calls at this point and this caller that he's talking to has a stupid idea.
Starting point is 01:36:09 And then it turns out that because of this stupid idea, Alex reinforces a stupid idea that we've covered in the past that Alex has put out. And I kind of thought maybe he was going to let this one sit. No, no, no. This is something he really believes. What comes to do is forget about buying Iceland. You should buy Baja, man. That place is sick.
Starting point is 01:36:31 It sure is nice. Baja is amazing and expanding on all the whales and stuff on the coast. I've been there once. It's beautiful. We need Greenland because of all the natural gas, all the oil. We could probably get a deal for nothing. Alex really believes. They really want to buy Greenland.
Starting point is 01:36:47 Yeah. Does he think that's how it works? I do believe so. He does kind of think you can just give all of Greenland money and then they give you Greenland. Yeah, I thought that was just sort of like a stupid thing he said because he had a, you know, defending Trump news cycle. No, it turns out Alex is pretty into the idea of expanding.
Starting point is 01:37:06 Yeah. Because he could have just let that one go, man. Uh-huh. So now we get Barnes up in the house. Barnes is what I prefer to say. Boo earns, as I say it. The two of them get into a conversation about how the globalists were really just trying to buy time because they knew they needed to like steal the 2020 election and all this year.
Starting point is 01:37:28 Um, this is some hot bullshit and it leads to like one of the crazier things. Uh, it can't, cannot possibly be true that I've heard Alex claim. And that's why he's accelerating action now because he realizes their whole end game was just to buy time, then get to 2020 manipulate 2020 to get the outcome they want. And then they don't have to worry about this anymore. And that's why we harp on it because if we don't have real communications, people aren't going to know that they're teaching six year olds and I'm not joking in library books in public schools now to go with men at parks, the bathroom and have sex with them.
Starting point is 01:38:06 Now obviously not going to get away with that if we're on air to expose it. So that's why Alex. That's the only reason they're not going to get away with it. So Alex needs to be on air for that. If Alex Jones is on air. Uh-huh. There's one thing I know. Right.
Starting point is 01:38:19 No one's going to have sex in a park. All the globalists aren't going to be able to put those books in public school libraries. Right. That definitely exist. The what? The training manuals? Of all the things I absolutely do not need to look up to tell you is not true. This is probably on the top of that list.
Starting point is 01:38:34 There is no public school that is teaching a book that encourages six year olds to go to park bathrooms with strange men and have sex with them. I really do. That is absolutely 100% bullshit. You know, and that's one of those fun things that disproves the infinite universe, you know? Just because it is possible doesn't mean that it's going to happen. No.
Starting point is 01:38:53 I decided to look it up anyway. And while I can find no evidence that such a book exists, I think I know what's going on here. Okay. There's a 2015 law in California that recently went into effect that required schools to teach comprehensive sex education curriculum. There it is. And it includes material related to LGBTQ folks.
Starting point is 01:39:09 So you know the right wing is doubly pissed off about it. There it is. You can make whatever you are argument you want for against the curriculum. You can say that it's an important public health information. I'll agree with you. You can say that you'd rather teach your child that stuff at home and I'll respect your parenting. None of that matters because the bill is very explicitly in the fact that it includes a
Starting point is 01:39:28 provision where parents can opt their children out of the curriculum. You don't want your child learning that stuff in school? Problem solved. This is a non-issue. I read an article about this and I assume what Alex must be talking about is some of the curriculum involves education about domestic abuse and sex trafficking. So I imagine that he's taking a lesson or something in a book about how you shouldn't go to the bathroom with a stranger and arguing that it secretly is a way of trying to get
Starting point is 01:39:51 children curious about going to bathrooms with strangers. Remember, his specialty is telling you what they're really saying. Exactly. It makes no sense but if you're used to listening to Alex that's kind of how his brain works. This article had some interesting comments on it. Here's a definite stance that's taken by a definite non-bigot. Quote, we are not fighting LGBTQ people per se but their agenda. That's obviously to create more of them by infiltrating the public schools.
Starting point is 01:40:18 Cool stuff. It's a good angle on this. Wow. So I assume this is what Alex is talking about since complaints about the curriculum are making the rounds a little bit in the right wing spheres. So it makes sense that he'd seen a misleading headline and decided to report it even more misleadingly. But here's the larger point.
Starting point is 01:40:34 This is his first example he can come up with for why the world needs him to be on air. If it weren't for him, no one would know this completely fake thing about a book telling kids to fuck strange men in park bathrooms and how it's evidence of the globalists trying to steal your children. Alex is actually making a very compelling argument for why society needs him to not be on the air. Right. On the other hand, we wouldn't know about this if it weren't for him.
Starting point is 01:40:58 Again, this not true thing. Yeah, but we wouldn't know about it. Fine. So at this point, Alex, you know, I mean, like Robert Barnes is like an expert on everything. He's a really smart guy. No, he isn't. He is smart. He really isn't.
Starting point is 01:41:15 So he is maybe conniving. The two of them get into a little bit of a bull session about who should replace John Bolton. Right. We got to get a guy in there. No. And Alex earlier was ruminating on this point and he had no ideas, which is weird. Of course he doesn't.
Starting point is 01:41:31 He was sort of like kicking the can down the street by being like, let's get Boykin. See who he thinks. Boy. Let's see if Boykin's got a name. All right. I'm going to go ahead and text Rajas. Oh, no, I can't do that. Damn it.
Starting point is 01:41:43 I can text Steve. Oh, God. Damn it. Do I know anybody else? Because it turns out I don't actually know any names. What about Scousin? Will he talk to me anymore? Scousin?
Starting point is 01:41:52 Is he around? So Alex asked Barnes who he thinks should replace Bolton and his answer is not good. Golden. Who do you think should replace him? It needs to be. Ideally, I would like him to go back to a Gorka type or someone that has populist, nationalist, realistic, realpolitik instincts in that space to give him practical, strategic advice that is consistent with and consonant to his value.
Starting point is 01:42:17 So he wants. So we're bringing in Gorka. Gorka. Gorka's our move. Jesus Christ. Barnes. Good work. Good work, Barnes.
Starting point is 01:42:28 That's a sad, that's a sad, disgusting option for who you want to replace Bolton. Yeah, let's get Sebastian fucking Gorka. Yeah. And if you think Sebastian Gorka is giving you sane, reasonable advice on literally anything, I don't want to know. I don't want a movie recommendation from Sebastian Gorka because it's going to be so fucking stupid. So Alex now goes to a call and he asks this caller or actually I think the colleges brings
Starting point is 01:42:56 it up on his own. I have another suggestion of who needs to replace Bolton. And this is interesting because it spirals super out of control really fast. Alex is really excited about this idea. Colin Howell. What we're going to talk about today is what I think we need is a constitutionally and very strict on that note based task force to clear out the bad apples that are in the various agencies and networks that we have operating.
Starting point is 01:43:20 Like the president. In our country right now. You know, somebody like Bill Benny, who understands the promise software, the Pegasus malware. Oh, he needs William Benny as his national security advisor. That's genius. And to think what we need to be able to do is to have a this task force operate outside of the establishment of command. Something like the untouchables, if you will.
Starting point is 01:43:45 Well, that's what they did to clean up some of the third world countries as they create, you know, a special military unit that the president and the attorney general support who then goes and roots out the corruption. That's that's that's one of the only models that works. What the fuck? Did he just describe a fucking death squad? Oh, what we need is an extra judicial fucking death squad that is able to act with impunity. He doesn't see it.
Starting point is 01:44:08 At the direction of the president. He doesn't see it as a death squad, but he also it's almost parody for someone like him to not recognize how close that is to what he's suggesting. Also, William Benny is a fucking Seth Rich truther and is an embarrassment. He's a psychopath. Yeah. And a moron. The idea that, you know, we'd be even his name would be thrown around by his callers
Starting point is 01:44:31 even is is ludicrous. Yeah. So I assume he's going to be our next national security. Undoubtedly. Yeah. So the brain trust on Info Wars has got us Boltons out. Let's get Sebastian Gorka or fucking Benny in there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:45 Great. You know what? We're both in half. So I'm together and let's have them both do it. What a load of shit. God, these people are terrible ideas. So our last clip here from September 10th is an indication of a new line of business that Genesis communications network is getting into.
Starting point is 01:45:02 Finally, hemp made easy, clean and effective GC in hemp.com. They're selling hemp. They're selling hemp. Cool. Good job guys. Ted Anderson getting into the hemp game. I don't actually, you know what? I think it would be, I wouldn't be surprised if he just straight up sold drugs on the corner
Starting point is 01:45:22 after he lost his fucking bouillon license. I mean, he tried to go from that to like frozen beef. Yeah. It's just not young Jevity stuff too, but it's just not, not really. And then I guess GNS. Yeah. GNS was largely motivated clearly by GCN. Right.
Starting point is 01:45:39 Like Alex was only a pitch man for it. Right. He was only a pitch man for GCNs involvement with Junets. Clearly. Gotcha. Based on how things have shaked out, but yeah, I mean, fucking sell hemp. I don't give a shit. I'm actually surprised that they haven't gotten into the legal marijuana market.
Starting point is 01:45:55 It makes sense for them. It's like a lateral move. I don't know if that's legal in Minnesota. Oh yeah. That's fair. Except it's not a scam, I guess. You could make it one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:05 Go for it guys. Stems and seeds. You've got a chance. Are us. So we get to September 11th. Yeah. I'm expecting like this is just going to be. Jingoistic 9 11 9 11.
Starting point is 01:46:15 Well, I thought it was going to be at least 9 11 ish, but I really quickly caught a theme that was going on and that is that Alex is trying to turn 9 11 into his abortion narratives. His argument seems to be throughout this is like 9 11 was bad, but that was only 3000 people. Oh, okay. So many more have died from abortion. So we're going with materialism is our. It's it's it was very weird to encounter.
Starting point is 01:46:45 So you get this first clip here and Alex is talking about like seeing abortion protesters. And I've seen the videos that he's talking about. I know this. These are people fucking with him. Yeah. Like when people hiss at him and stuff like that, it's all hilarious. Yeah. So this is how he experiences it, whether sincerely or not, this is how he packages that to his
Starting point is 01:47:06 audience. It happened three years ago that they were about to pass a law to ban partial birth of abortion in Texas. It didn't pass. And hundreds of women showed up in business suits and began going hail Satan and sticking their tongues out like demons and going, I mean, we'll play in the video. So you have to understand this is real. And the devil wants children and these people get spiritually high as a kite when they get
Starting point is 01:47:35 possessed. And you've got these dead, empty followers out there. And to them, this is the most alive drug they can get on. And it's a drug. It's not just for the elites digging out the pituitary gland and the adrenal glands out of the brain. Hey, bingo. The kidneys and eating them.
Starting point is 01:47:51 That's all admitted now. Oh, we told you 20 years ago. So we got adrenochrome shit going on again, but also the kidneys. Right. Kidneys are. Yeah. Gotta get those. So I mean, this is this is a load of shit.
Starting point is 01:48:04 But this again leads me back to that same distinction with Tom Pappert. Like with his Facebook post that he's pretending isn't people fucking around. How much is Alex aware of the fact that these people are just fucking with him? And then he just decides to pretend he doesn't understand that. Or does he actually believe that these people were hissing and acting demonic at him? That's a good question. I don't know. I really, I really couldn't say.
Starting point is 01:48:24 Because a rational human being would never think that these people were being serious. Right. They would, but. But he's not a rational human being. That's true. He's also a rational person with a malicious agenda would take that and be like, I can use this to my advantage really easily. Right.
Starting point is 01:48:39 Right. Right. So I don't know. I think it's the latter. I think he knows it's fucking fake. Here's kind of my operating theory on the stupid, the evil conundrum we often find ourselves in. I think it starts out with him knowing that he's creating this false narrative.
Starting point is 01:48:57 He knows he knows it's a joke. He knows that he's creating a false narrative. And I think eventually he winds up convincing himself that he's right. That's kind of how I always feel like this goes. So it's sort of like he jumps into the vat of goo intentionally. But once he's in there, he can't get out. Exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:49:15 That could be. That kind of makes sense to me from, from everything that we've, it's the only thing that kind of fits with him both being a huckster, a liar and a lunatic. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. He could be, he convinces himself that just sort of autopilots a lot. Yeah. Now the centerpiece of Alex's abortion arguments that he's making and, and like really the
Starting point is 01:49:38 piacet de résistance is a new report that Paul Joseph Watson put out. Oh God, no. This. Didn't he not work there anymore? I think that that is either an intent, like I think that was their intention and that it didn't work because Alex needs him. Yeah. It was another attempt to find ways to have non banned websites.
Starting point is 01:49:59 Right. Right. So summit.news would be pretend like we present it as Paul has left and this is his own thing. Yeah. Cause Paul's not banned on social media. Right. Right. Right.
Starting point is 01:50:10 That I think that might be what it is. I don't know. It's really tough to say, but I, you could tell back when that was happening that either Paul Joseph Watson's the best actor in the world or he sincerely didn't want to be around Alex. Yeah. Yeah. I don't really care.
Starting point is 01:50:24 My point here, Jordan. Yes. Yeah. Is that I would never talk about a Paul Joseph Watson report if I didn't find something amazing about it. Yeah. I know because they're unlistenable. This is amazing.
Starting point is 01:50:35 Here's Paul Watson laying out part of this in his report. We'll play the whole report up, but here it is. Did you hear about this new sexual fetish couples repeatedly getting pregnant than having multiple abortions? What a time to be alive. And regarding abortions and breeding fetish. I have a female friend who has a really powerful fetish for breeding. She has never used any type of birth control.
Starting point is 01:51:02 She is with a male partner currently who is just like her into breeding and they've been practicing their fetish for quite a few abortions. I know this fetish. My girlfriend and me have the same fetish. My girlfriend enjoy her pregnancies and she enjoys the abortions. So you know, he's doing good voice acting there. That was spectacular. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:51:23 I can see why he's very popular. I think the main issue we have is the right is getting so good at humor. Sure. So I found the source for what Paul Joseph Watson is reading here in his very powerful special report. It's a year old post on Reddit's r-sex board. It's weird how he managed to find this post if he wasn't specifically looking for something to make a big deal out of and connect to a larger editorial decision to make 9-11 about
Starting point is 01:51:45 abortion, which Alex is clearly doing. Seems weird considering the post is a year old. He only got 18 comments and was 50% downvoted. So there's no way it would ever pop up if you were just scrolling through Reddit. He had to be actively searching for this. Yeah, that's not good. The reply comment that Paul is reading only got one upvote and it's pretty far down the thread.
Starting point is 01:52:06 So he'd have to be selectively choosing this one to discuss because the rest of the comments could be summed up as this is messed up or I'm not sure I believe this story because people on Reddit make stuff up all the time and this would sound very expensive. I'm going to go with the second one. So most people generally don't think the comments on Reddit are really all that indicative of reality because people have screen names and there's a lot of anonymity to the whole thing. One of the good ways you can kind of get a sense about someone's sincerity though is
Starting point is 01:52:32 to look through their post history. If Paul Joseph Watson had done this, he might have had some journalistic reservations about considering this poster a credible source. Don't understand. Around the time they posted this question that Paul is reading about their friend who's into breeding, they also posted this gem. Quote, if you're on birth control and let's say four to five males come inside you vaginally around the same time, does each male increase my likelihood of getting pregnant?
Starting point is 01:52:59 Or as far as you're on birth control, it doesn't matter how much. I personally have a copper IUD but I'm unsure if it's aimed at one male or also multiple. Hilarious. So funny. This person sounds like an idiot at best. And most likely a kid fucking around. This is further indicated by another post from around that same time. Quote, me and my four friends had fun at a home party and decided to get a bit kinky.
Starting point is 01:53:23 Now I'm a bit of a kinky girl and I didn't mind some kinky ideas the boys had. We did end up with the idea of how much loads I can hold in my mouth and well we went for it. This is facile. There is no reason to be laughing at this. We are grown adults. No, I think it's because they use kinky three times in a sentence. I know.
Starting point is 01:53:51 It was ridiculous. If you read the other posts this person has written, they all read like someone with very little experience trying to write erotica. And I come away from it from a very strong sense that any journalist who would stoop to using this as proof of anything as an absolute hack should be fucking ashamed of themselves. I really, I bet every journalist really kind of envies Paul Joseph's job. Because there's so little you have to do, you do not have to work. The hardest part is editing and he probably doesn't do it himself.
Starting point is 01:54:20 Of course he does. Like all the quick cuts and everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would take a while. Yeah. So make no mistake about it. This is a real fetish. Just not the getting tons of abortions part.
Starting point is 01:54:29 Like if Paul Joseph Watson did some deeper research on the scholarly website Reddit.com he would have found and asked me anything thread from a girl purporting to have this breeding fetish and she explains that she's on birth control which is very common. And the people who that I've seen talking about it, they're able to manage or imagine the situation as being one that leads to pregnancy and role play it a little bit. But they aren't so irresponsible that they would get pregnant just for the sexual rush they'd get out of it. And people have different reasons for enjoying the fetish too.
Starting point is 01:54:57 If you look at the people who talk about this online, for some it's about a submissiveness. Some see pregnancy as taboo given their life circumstances. Some men just really like how pregnant women look. It's a big old world out there even within just this one kink community. This is a larger group of people who indulge in this fantasy and for the most part it doesn't seem like they're harming anybody. Is it possible that there's a very, very small segment of the population that recreationally gets abortions?
Starting point is 01:55:24 No. Maybe? But I don't see any evidence that this is the case. Yeah, no kidding. There's one case specifically that seems to be brought up a lot when people try to make this argument. And that goes back to a 2009 ABC News story about a woman named Irene Valar who was a self-described abortion addict who wrote a book called Impossible Motherhood.
Starting point is 01:55:44 However, to define her as just an abortion addict is a very unfair portrait. Valar was the granddaughter of Puerto Rican nationalist Lolita Lebron who stormed the U.S. House of Representatives with a gun back in 1954, which put her into jail for 25 years. Lebron was sterilized as part of a program in Puerto Rico when she was 33 and that trauma lingered in her family as sort of a ghost that hung over everyone's reproductive life. Her mother would go on to commit suicide when Valar was 8 years old, leading to her going away to boarding school. She then went to college at Syracuse and began an emotionally abusive relationship with
Starting point is 01:56:24 a 50-year-old professor who was specifically opposed to children, saying having them kills sexual desire. Most of the abortions that she got were during this period where she was in a relationship with this abusive professor. The way Valar describes her abortions is a form of self-harm and if you look at the larger portrait of her life, it's very easy to see that this is a person who suffered trauma in a very specific form that took this outlet. It has very little to do with the larger picture of abortion excess and it's not indicative
Starting point is 01:56:58 of a group of people who are serial abortion getters. Outside of this one person, I can't really find any evidence of people who get a bunch of abortions compulsively. The idea that this is a large community of people who do, nor is there anyone from Planned Parenthood or any similar organization advocating for that. This is a straw man that Paul Joseph Watson has created out of a year-old Reddit post that he's dug up and pretended his news, specifically for the purpose of attacking women's rights to control their bodies and medical decisions.
Starting point is 01:57:25 This is a pathetic display of journalism because you've got to assume if he had something better he wouldn't be using an obviously fake year-old Reddit post to make his argument. Also his bosses admitted that he's paid for at least 10 abortions with different women, some of whom didn't want to get abortions, something that strangely doesn't seem to be unpacked in this weird diatribe. And he's not putting that one out there? No. That's odd.
Starting point is 01:57:47 No. I mean, it's just the fucking stupidity of, if that was a thing, and it was in the way that Paul Joseph Watson described it, not as a fucking byproduct of horrible trauma. For this woman. For this woman. Yeah. I don't know if Paul even gets into that woman. Oh, I'm sure.
Starting point is 01:58:08 I just assume he does. Yeah. But in the parts that Alex plays, he doesn't even get into that. It's all just this Reddit post. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry. I just wanted to be clear about that.
Starting point is 01:58:18 Right. Right. Exactly. But even then, is there any way where that isn't its own news story? A Planned Parenthood employee sees this same woman every month or whatever? Of course that would be national news. I assume that you might have gone to different places. And the right wing would exploit it.
Starting point is 01:58:32 You mean like other people than her? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Some employee at Planned Parenthood would absolutely talk to some journalist and they'd be like, we see Louisa every six months, you know, or three months and it's been going on for 30 years. Right.
Starting point is 01:58:48 I don't know. I just think that this is like really disgraceful stuff, like, and also fucking hilarious. Yeah. Paul Joseph Watson and Alex spend all their fucking time talking about how they're the real news. Yeah. They're the ones who are getting really to the bottom of it. And Alex's big pageant that he's putting on for this 9-11 abortion spectacular, the
Starting point is 01:59:07 centerpiece of it is Paul Joseph Watson's report that the primary source of, for his argument that there is this new fetish that's coming around that involves everybody getting abortions, is clearly fake shit that's a year old on Reddit. Yeah. That he didn't look into. He didn't even do the second step of looking into this, which would have been looking at the person's post history. That's the easiest fucking thing to do in the world.
Starting point is 01:59:31 And he would have seen all those fucking nonsensical posts that he'd be like, I don't know. I don't know how good journalism works. What you do is you go looking for the story you want. And when you find any piece of evidence of that story, you stop looking, see, you found it. That's fair enough. It's not that. God.
Starting point is 01:59:52 See, and now the thing with Paul is you always know he's on the evil spectrum. Oh, yeah. There's no, there's pure, pure intentionality behind his bullshit. Yes. Yeah. He's, he's far more like malevolent. Yeah. Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 02:00:06 So there's another big piece of this abortion spectacular that Alex puts on. And that is a news story about an Illinois hospital that he's telling. But CNN doesn't tell you about this. Illinois Hospital created comfort room for aborted babies to die in. And which remained alive for hours after abortion procedure because the doctors said, well, the baby slept out before we could suck the brains out. Really? And so we're just going to go put him in a room to die.
Starting point is 02:00:36 So what he's doctors. So this comfort room narrative is circulating in the right wing media right now because a woman named Jill Stanek recently spoke in defense of the born alive act. And her words are being used by right wing activists to fuel their campaign to get rid of women's rights. She described these comfort rooms are pregnancies have been terminated usually due to complications or genetic conditions that would have would leave the child unable to survive should it have been born came out technically alive, but not viable.
Starting point is 02:01:04 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What's interesting to me is that these articles about Stanek's comment, they generally include this line quote, this incident prompted Stanek to end her employment at Christ Hospital, which obviously gives you the impression that she saw something horrible and then quit because she couldn't be around it. That's not true.
Starting point is 02:01:22 Oh, Jill Stanek was fired by Christ Hospital after she allegedly took pictures and areas that completely violated patient privacy. And then quote misrepresented the hospital on television. She was fired by the hospital in 2001, two years after she began making public statements about these comfort rooms, these comments that she made recently are literally the exact same thing she said 20 years ago. There isn't anything new here. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 02:01:47 I probably sound a bit flippant, but that's probably because her comments kicked off a little bit of drama and the Illinois Department of Public Health ended up doing a formal investigation into her allegations and found that there was no wrongdoing on the part of the hospital. She's someone who made a fantastical claim 20 years ago, then all these claims were looked into and found to be inaccurate. She was fired by the hospital on the merits. Then she started working for WorldNet Daily.
Starting point is 02:02:11 I'm not sure this is a source that I find to have much credibility, but Alex does of course, because it works into what he wants to present. He doesn't even deal really with the fact that this is like 20 year old shit. That's insane. Yeah. That's fucking insane. Yeah. I don't know which doctor they quoted for that story saying, well, it just slipped out,
Starting point is 02:02:30 so we figured we got to have a room for it. It was all her. Yeah. That's a surprise. Yeah. That's a surprise. There's a thing here that in the context of talking about this article about Jill Stanek's comments about things that she talked about 20 years ago, there's a real cruelty and brutality
Starting point is 02:02:51 to what Alex is expressing towards the parents or the would be parents. And in this next clip, I think he just crosses a line that is unbelievably unacceptable. Parents, the baby are also allowed to hold it during this time. Oh my gosh. If staff did not have the time or desire to hold the baby, she was taken to Christ Hospital Comfort Room, which is complete with the first photo machine if parents wanted professional pictures of their aborted baby. Oh, did you hear that complete with the first photo machine if parents wanted professional
Starting point is 02:03:31 pictures of their aborted baby, baptismal supplies, gowns and certificates, foot printing equipment and baby bracelets and mementos and a rocking chair because you didn't want it. So you took it and fantasize it, but it's all the creeping death. See, that's now the galloping death. That's really disgusting shit. And I sincerely wonder if Alex is imagining these parents getting photos with their babies as if it's them goofing off.
Starting point is 02:03:56 Yeah, I think he thinks it's like a fish. Like they caught it, like they're holding it up like, hey, look at this thing. Yeah, I wonder if he thinks that foot printing or memorializing their lost child is a behavior that anyone would engage in if they weren't taking this decision very seriously and making an emotionally difficult choice. Does he legitimately think that anyone would do this shit for fun? What he's describing and mocking is a part of grief. It's mourning and honoring a child you never had.
Starting point is 02:04:23 There's a long history of this sort of thing cross-culturally. Like I remember in a religious studies class I took in college reading a book called The Haunting Fetus about rituals some people in Taiwan would carry out to provide food and care towards pregnancies that had been terminated honoring the fetus ghosts. In Japan, it's not uncommon to hold the Mizuko Kuyo ceremonies to honor and recognize the spirits of children lost to miscarriage, stillbirth, and abortion. These are not historically uncommon things because people need to process emotionally resonant occasions and even if you're making a decision to terminate a pregnancy, that
Starting point is 02:04:56 doesn't automatically mean that it's not going to affect you. And sure, that's not always the case and some people don't have an emotionally impactful experience with terminating a pregnancy, but I find the idea that of Alex mocking the idea of people grieving to be so fucking disgusting. They're literally proof that everything he believes about abortion, namely that people are all just going around getting them for fun, is complete bullshit. Because he can't wrestle with that, he has to mock this and act like it's the most insane thing ever when in reality it's his callous position that is insanity.
Starting point is 02:05:28 This is gross. Like he genuinely thinks people are getting footprints of non-viable fetuses the same way that you get a smashed penny at fucking Six Flags. That's what he thinks. Yep, because he's gross, gross-o. And he gets worse. These people are insane. They are.
Starting point is 02:05:50 So he reads this article and just like really ruminates in the details. And when he gets to the end of reading this article, he says something that made me my heart flutter a little bit in fear. Yeah, that's how I spend my days. I'm not complaining. I feel very violent right now as a man and a father would. I'm going to control myself and we're going to take this country and plant it back. We're going to protect the children and we're going to legally and lawfully execute these
Starting point is 02:06:21 people that have been involved in this. What? They will die. Stay with us. That is so fucked up. All right, now that music choice was not in congruence. No, that was haunting. That was fucking haunting.
Starting point is 02:06:36 That was right on. That was terrifying. Yeah, yeah. Holy shit. So I imagine that what Alex is describing is a fantasy scenario where I guess Trump is in power forever and they outlaw abortion and then they kill everyone who works at Planned Parenthood. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:54 And anybody who's decided to get an abortion except for him because he's repented. Well, he's 10 abortions. Well, he repented. He did repent though. It's fine. However, the people whom he wants to execute will not have a chance to repent. No. It's very strange how that works.
Starting point is 02:07:07 They will legally and lawfully be executed. Yeah. Man. This is crazy. Unlike you. That's such extremist shit right there. Oh, man. That is not politically being opposed to a woman's right to choose.
Starting point is 02:07:20 That is, I mean, like I know he does his little bullshit about we're going to legally and lawfully execute you. This is encouraging violence towards people who work at abortion clinics, who are Planned Parenthood employees, who are people who advocate for women's health. This is sincerely one of the most dangerous ways he could be acting on at 9-11. Yeah. What he's doing is commemorating the memory of the 18 terrorists who inspired him to try and kill others.
Starting point is 02:07:59 That's what he's really trying to do, Dan. But that's because 9-11 isn't as big as abortion. And I told you that that's the sense that I got through the beginning of this episode. It's like he's using 9-11 in order to prop up his abortion arguments. And then he just makes it clear at this point. So depending on what numbers you look at, there's been 60 million plus abortions in the United States. Depending on what numbers you look at.
Starting point is 02:08:26 But seven states. Like real ones or fake ones. Don't report. So it's much higher than that. But if you divide 3,000 people into 60 million, that's quite a many 9-11s. God damn it. This guy built his career on 9-11. Jesus.
Starting point is 02:08:44 Now he's throwing it under the bus. Yeah. He's very flippant about 9-11. This is not what I expected from him on 9-11. This is very weird. 9-11. Not that big a deal. Happy 9-11, everybody.
Starting point is 02:08:56 It's so strange. So in this next clip, he gets into talking about abortion doctors being demons. Also it's more insane. It's more insane because you could argue that 9-11 was the single, was like the flash point that led to America cannibalizing itself over the past. Sure. 20 years. Sure.
Starting point is 02:09:18 Like you could argue that 9-11 is going to take down the entire United States. There were. It hasn't already. There. You know, I don't know if you could draw a straight line, but I think you could make an argument that a lot of the ripple effects of it have been things that have led to the state we're in now. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:36 Yeah. It's, but abortion's bigger. Oh, never mind. And abortion doctors are demons. Alex has it on video. Are they low-servant demons or are they one step above? Probably middle management. Middle management demons?
Starting point is 02:09:49 Yeah. Bomber. So Alex has video of it, but he won't play it. That's really convenient. And he's, this guy's the worst. And weird abortion doctors will come out and like talk like demons and go, I will kill that child. But we have it on video now.
Starting point is 02:10:02 Does that mean to play it? I will. Do it. And it's not just a few of them. You get around abortion clinics and you'll see people walking in going, I mean, whatever you want to call it, killing babies all day ain't good for you. I thought they loved it. I mean, I could show, we're going to roll video where the doctors walk in going, they'll
Starting point is 02:10:24 go, planet serving us. I mean, you don't believe in demons. You've got to go around these places. You'll see it. They'll start going, your planet's ours. I'm going to show you. You don't. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:38 I mean, you have it, but it's not convincing. So one of the trends that you see there is like, you got to see it. You got to, you know, and that's a bad suggestion because what he's doing is sort of telling his audience that you should go to abortion clinics. You'll see their demons and we will rightfully and lawfully execute them at some point. And he makes it even more overt in this next clip. Go to an abortion clinic today. Witness it.
Starting point is 02:11:02 Witness me. Talk about God. Tell somebody it's wrong. They'll be like, how are you doing today? You know, Jesus is real and these babies are real. You know, it's really bad for what you're doing. Shut up. I'll keep doing it if I want.
Starting point is 02:11:15 If you don't believe in God, then you're blind folks. It's real. And you know where the demons are. They're at the abortion clinics. Of course they are. So what we have is a show that is calling for violence, whether it's pretend legal and awful violence or not, it's calling for the deaths of these people who were involved in the demons.
Starting point is 02:11:36 Yeah. And he's enlisting his audience to go to abortion claims. He's literally saying go today and see the demons. What does he expect some of his audience to do when they see demons? Well, I mean, this is crazy. Now we know from history that anti-abortion protesters, when they go to clinics, it is always very calm and respectful. No one has, I don't know, shot some abortion doctor into the head.
Starting point is 02:12:09 That's definitely never happened. Nobody's bombed or led an abortion clinic on fire. I'm not saying that this is going to cause that. But it's behavior that is trying to get that to happen. There is no other way to behave like this. This doesn't advance your discourse. This doesn't advance the point that you're trying to make. This exists solely to hope one of your listeners goes and shoots up an abortion clinic.
Starting point is 02:12:37 There's literally no other way to operate like this. This is unacceptable to levels that I can't even really describe. And this is purposeful not for continued fucking views. He doesn't give a fuck about this. He doesn't think that this is real. He doesn't think he doesn't care about it. It doesn't matter. That on 9 11, he fucking spends an entire show trying to get these people killed.
Starting point is 02:13:03 So you'll pay attention to him. That's fucked up. But I think there's a reason. And that is he needs money. Well, it might be past that point. Oh, no. This is one of the things like we're already pretty deep into this episode. And there was a large part of me that as I was listening to the 10th, I was like, well,
Starting point is 02:13:25 that's probably an episode. And I started to listen to the 11th. I heard that Paul Joseph Watson report. There was like, there's a fucking Reddit post. I heard how disgusting he was. I heard this call for his audience to go to abortion clinics to witness the demons for themselves. And I was like, that's fucking like that.
Starting point is 02:13:42 I can't leave alone. And then this happened. And I was like, well, this is huge. Hollywood is completely turned over to Satan. This is real. And denying it is going to get us all destroyed. So we're going to come back and play all that briefly. I was thinking about last night that this is probably the time to go ahead and just
Starting point is 02:14:07 be completely frank with everybody. And it's really hard to express this properly because there's a lot of facets and a lot of angles and a lot of different ways that I can basically break this down. And so trying to think of the best way to describe it the most accurately is somewhat of a paradox and a conundrum. So before I get to these videos on the other side, I'm going to talk about the future of info wars and whether it's going to be here or not, and just really come to grips with that fact with the listeners.
Starting point is 02:14:49 So I heard that. Oh boy. That's big. Well, I have a lot of... Or it could be a complete fucking lie. I have conflicting feelings about it because I don't trust this fucking guy at all. Of course not. But there's a feeling of sincerity there.
Starting point is 02:15:04 There seems to be a difficulty talking about this. You know, you could see the way he was struggling with words. It feels like whether or not he's exaggerating something. There is definitely something behind this. Some existential fear that he has about like, well, we can't really do anything. So when he comes back, he doesn't... He's not bluffing. He does end up talking about this.
Starting point is 02:15:27 And he makes a very specific timeframe claim that might be sincere, might not. I don't know. In about the last three, four months, we passed a demarcation line, a point of really no return, where I am selling product that I have and I'll be able to continue for a year at our current even slight expansion rate. But then when all of that product is sold out, there'll be no money because I won't be reordering. So now I've reached the point where I can actually count...
Starting point is 02:16:08 I think we're going to have a countdown to the shutdown of Info Wars. 365 days. I mean, really, that's true. But I don't like the enemy to know this, but they've already got moles and they spy on us. I mean, they're fully aware. But all the things they've done to us, you know, haven't to pay a higher rate for just merchant accounts and haven't to pay for all their own bandwidth and haven't to have 24
Starting point is 02:16:28 hour security up here, you know, arm train security, and to have it at my house. It was the only antifung... It was the one who chose to hire Blackwater. I don't know what I think about this. I'm really conflicted because it is definitely in line with the trends that we've seen from Alex. Like he constantly talks about wanting to quit, wanting to be a farmer and shit like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:51 You know, like he has been kind of checked out for a bit now. His legal fees have got to be exorbitant. Like there's no way he can keep up with like the just all of the expenses of this stuff. And we heard, I don't know, was it a couple of weeks ago? Maybe he was talking about having to have a decision about whether or not to order more product. And this time he said specifically, we are not. It does sound like that.
Starting point is 02:17:15 I don't know. I don't know if he's being clear enough really to say like, what he's saying is they're not ordering any more product, but it does sound like that's what he's saying. It sounds like he's given up. Yeah, it does sound like that. 365 days is a long year where you can order product on any one of those days. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, so it's literally like, Hey, after a month, if all of his fans go apeshit on it,
Starting point is 02:17:44 he's like, you know what? Everybody loves this so much. We're going to reorder, but I think he's also been doing these money bombs a lot in these life marathons. And I think there's diminishing returns to it. Well, of course, I have to assume that that's part of the calculation. That they've made is like, okay, yes, this amount of money that you can get from selling all of the stuff in the warehouse will get you so far.
Starting point is 02:18:06 But at that point, you're fucked because you don't have the money now to reorder and keep the business going. You have the money for either. You can do one of them. So basically he's in a position where let's say it costs $5 million to run the operation for a year and also costs $5 million to order the product. He could spend that $5 million now for the product and hope that more sales will come. But then he's running on nothing for the show and he couldn't pay bandwidth fees, all that
Starting point is 02:18:36 other legal fees, or he could afford that $5 million to run it for a year. At that point, he has nothing left in order to reorder supplies that he could be using to sell. That's the framing that I see it as kind of being where he's at. I don't know if that's accurate. He could be full of shit, but I've not heard him speak this specifically and this morosely. It does sound real to me because of his reluctance to talk about. And that goes back to, I think, his narcissism.
Starting point is 02:19:15 When he normally asks for money, he doesn't need it and he's lying. So it's totally fine with him. He's a narcissist. He can rationalize that away. But now that he actually needs it and he's coming from a place of weakness, that's why he's so resistant to talk about it and that kind of thing. That's what makes sense to me. It's a possibility, pretty strong possibility.
Starting point is 02:19:39 I think there's also a part of it that's like expectation building in his audience. We're probably fucked. We're fucked. We don't want to disappear overnight. You should. I have emotionally fucked you guys all up real bad. It would be tough if I just disappeared out of nowhere. I need to go on a Kobe Bryant swan song where I ruin an entire NBA franchise for a year
Starting point is 02:20:03 and then we'll figure it out. So he talks more about it in this next clip where he just feels like he's saying, like, I don't want to do these fucking ads anymore. I don't want to do this. I don't want to sit here and run all these ads. We're formatted for radio. People really don't even listen to the ads. And then I don't want to sit here and plug all day on air about the great products we've
Starting point is 02:20:19 got. I'm just going to tell listeners that I'm not going to dial things back. I'm not going to lay a bunch of people off. I'm just going to go 100% into the election and I'm going to spend everything on Weeb God and I'm just going to put everything on the front lines and go all in to read Not Americana, to expose the globalist and to ignite populism worldwide. I'm not going to just fizzle out and trail out here. I'm going to go out with a big fiery bang.
Starting point is 02:20:46 Gross. But also, a year isn't going to get you to the election. Point of order. Yeah. Yeah. Now, if you want to listen to that call and go buy a bunch of products and sign up for auto ships, you don't forget. And if you want to tell others about the show and you want to really get aggressive to support
Starting point is 02:21:02 the info war, that'll be wonderful. And we'll go into the election year and get the funding we need. But I'm currently selling out of products and discounting and to sell them where I cannot fund the operation and buy more product. So you understand that. It's kind of like you're on a mission. You've got fuel and you've got to get to a certain place. But when you get there, there's no fuel to come back.
Starting point is 02:21:23 You understand? So and I'm not going to sit here and just dial back and cut people's pay and then just kind of wobble on to the future. I'm going to 110% paddle of the metal to work as hard as I can get. It's people. People are nosing. I'm more focused. I'm more on target because we're going into a critical crossroads and we're going into
Starting point is 02:21:45 25 years of info wars. Will it make it 26, 27 years? You imagine the victory the global still have if we're not here. So I make it really easy to get the products. I mean, we go out and go, what's the best selling skin cream? Well, it's hyaluronic acid with vitamin A and see, that's why I don't necessarily believe this. It's like to an ad right there.
Starting point is 02:22:04 I still think he has some sort of semblance of idea, like a hope that he can pull this one off. But it doesn't feel good odds. It doesn't. It kind of sounds like he's directly appealing to the Republican Party. No, please. I'm going to go all in for Trump in the election. Trump, please, please give me your money.
Starting point is 02:22:29 Well, this is why he was screaming at all the family members who won't give him money. Stay at your hotels, Trump. I just did an ad for your hotels and you're cheating everybody. He's, uh, yeah, he's really mad at the people who aren't giving him money because he like on the sixth, even before that, he's aware of all this. He knows that he's living in a situation where he's got to figure out something to do. And all of these really rich people who pay him lip service or whatever, like, oh, your show's great.
Starting point is 02:22:57 They're not going to give him any money. No one needs this fucking show to exist. It's all lies and bullshit and white nationalism. Yeah. The only way you're going to find, uh, like a, like a billionaire donor is probably some billionaire bigot. Yeah. Like that's, that's what those are so tough to find too.
Starting point is 02:23:14 I think that he'd need a patron that was explicitly interested in that angle of his coverage. And I don't, I don't think that they would pay a dollar for him. I don't, I don't, oh, they wouldn't pay top dollar for him. I don't think that he would be able to get what he needs to operate from even some kind of a benefactor. He just doesn't have the utility. He doesn't have the usefulness anymore. Yep.
Starting point is 02:23:38 Um, and it's kind of sad. It's kind of sad because I think, I think he's living in this space. It feels to me at least that he's like, I still got a good season in me. I still am, I'm relevant and all evidence is to the contrary that like you have, you have played out your career. This is, this is it. And I don't know. So there's this weird dynamic that's going on that like he's simultaneously giving up
Starting point is 02:24:04 and then still trying to be like, I need money, which is weird. It's very weird. I think it's embodied in this next clip. We've gotten into a position where we're usually 150% markup, then we sell it at 100% markup discounted and then we're usually selling at 50% off is the only time you buy stuff and then by then we're making 20, 30% that doesn't, that doesn't pay for it. And I'm not bitching. I'm not complaining.
Starting point is 02:24:24 We've done things nobody else has ever done. We've changed the world together. We've been a self-funded media operation that's done incredible things. And I'm not really worried about it. You fund it. You support it. You spread the word about it. Or it goes away.
Starting point is 02:24:40 And I've told everybody even new hires, I said, we've got about a year. It'll take some time. You're trailing off. I expect as we start shutting down a bunch of money, I'll come in. That'll be too late. Let me tell you something. Find something up like this and then wind it back down and wind it back up with some billionaire came along with $50 million.
Starting point is 02:24:56 There's, there's, I've invested over $100 million you have in the last 15 years in this place or more. College way more than that. You understand? So you want this to keep living? Hey, feed me, Seymour, infowarstore.com. I appreciate all of your support. That's a big special right now.
Starting point is 02:25:14 I think that that's a bad reference. A little shock of course. No, no, no, no. That worked out well in the end. Right? I don't think so. No, everybody won. And they were happy forever.
Starting point is 02:25:25 I, I, I don't know. I don't know what to make of this. We'll have to see how things play out because he is such a liar that like, and especially around money stuff, like this is such a perfect thing for him to do in order for him to get people to cover it and be like, Hey, Alex is going out of business and then he'll come back and be like, I'm not, I'm doing better than ever fake news about me. That's possible. That's one thing.
Starting point is 02:25:49 It looks like a bait for like publicity. Yeah. There's another thing where it's just manipulative of his audience, like, because he's saying that like, you want this to keep going? That's on you. Yeah. All I can do is like sell these great products for cheap and the only time you ever buy them are when they're 50% off.
Starting point is 02:26:04 Like there is a manipulativeness where he's making it the audience's fault that he's going to go out of business. Well, of course it is, which could just be a ploy to get them to buy more shit. Right. But I don't know. I don't, it's simultaneously. I've never heard him talk like this. It's pretty much like a bummer that I'm delighted by man.
Starting point is 02:26:24 I can't imagine being a new hire. Oh, well, others. Yeah. The one who went to others. That's right. Yeah. I wonder how they're doing. Probably gone by now.
Starting point is 02:26:36 If I work there, they're still in Hong Kong. He'd be forgot. He forgot to give him a plane home. If I were working at Inforz and I heard Alex talking like this on air, you better believe I'm changing my name. I'm getting on LinkedIn. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:26:49 You're rewriting your resume. Why is there a huge gap in your resume? I was unemployed for four years, four years unemployed. I had to go. I had to go find myself. Yeah, exactly. I was in Tibet. I think that if this is true, one of the things we will see is probably people leave.
Starting point is 02:27:08 So I think that you end up seeing an outflow of employees and we'll see, we'll see how this plays out. I'm trying to keep track of it. But for now, I'm cautious. Yeah. I'm cautious about this. Yeah. But Alex gets done with his mopey bullshit.
Starting point is 02:27:23 And then, you know, we were talking earlier about how like, when you talk about the West, they're really just talking about white. Yeah. And it's kind of clear in this. Wait. The show continues after this? Yeah. What?
Starting point is 02:27:36 When did the show? Did that happen? Was that like hour one? No, it's either hour one or like a beginning of hour two. Unreal. Unreal. And you still do it. Fuck me.
Starting point is 02:27:46 It's in the middle of it. Wow. So Alex talks about the West. Okay. It's just so racist. But we project on the people that aren't white, that they're better than us. When in many cases, they're more barbarous than we ever were. And I don't hate these people.
Starting point is 02:28:00 It's just, the fact is, is that we need to stop hating the West. So let's go ahead and play pro. In that sentence, it's very clear the West and white are identical to him. You know, it's crazy. The same thing. Alex started saying shit like that. His phone turned on and started broadcasting. It's so wild.
Starting point is 02:28:17 It's so wild that when you say that stuff, your phone just turns on and starts broadcasting. Yep. So that's pretty clear. Yeah. Oh yeah. We can put that baby to bed. That the white is the West. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 02:28:30 So Alex has Dan Lyman on, who is the Europe Wars guy. Right. The man whose name could not be more on the nose. Liar man. Yeah. And so they talk a little bit about the, apparently Alex has some complaints about Emmanuel Macron. And then it's a little bit white nationalist, a little bit, just a little bit. Can we change your name to Dan Truthman?
Starting point is 02:28:54 Yes. Well, he said, he said, Francis future is African. Okay. Well, there's feces everywhere and homeless people and trees falling down in front of cars to rob them. And what? Tourism is down to 80%. I mean, why the hell would they be doing this? Right.
Starting point is 02:29:12 Tourism is down heavily in cities like Paris, Stockholm, London, and tourism is up in other countries where things are much safer and where there aren't that many migrants. Cities like Dubrovnik, Croatia, Croatia, Krakow, Poland, these places are. Everyone I know isn't going to Western Europe now. They're going to Eastern Europe. Absolutely. The cities are more beautiful. They're cleaner.
Starting point is 02:29:33 They're safer. Okay. Everyone I know is going to white places and I don't understand why. Right. There's a selection bias there. So Alex is kind of twisting Macron's words just a little bit. From what I can tell, he said that Africa is the continent of the future, which is a little different from what Alex is presenting it.
Starting point is 02:29:52 It also makes sense for a French president to say something like this, because a large portion of Africa was part of what's known as Le Mans francophone or the French speaking world. This place is like a quote de voir and there's 18 other African countries where French is the official language. Yeah. Anyway, that's a small point compared to something far more important. The things that Alex and Dan Lyman are saying here are not true.
Starting point is 02:30:16 According to the local out of France in an article from April, 2019 about their tourism industry, quote, France has just enjoyed a record year for visitor numbers, which means that they, the record was dropped by 80%. This draws in over 30 million tourists a year, which makes sense given its large number of monuments and attractions. Oh, and the fucking Disneyland and just the fact that France has varying climates that you can go to. Like you can enjoy a beach or a ski slope.
Starting point is 02:30:43 They got everything. Yeah. It's a very appealing country to visit unless all you do is listen to info wars that you might have a slightly different version. Right. Right. Right. Right.
Starting point is 02:30:54 Right. Connection France has an article from August, 2018 discussing how France is the quote champion of the world in tourism. Hmm. It's true that tourism took a little bit of a dip in 2015 in the wake of those two high profile terrorist attacks. Right. But that was just a temporary setback and things are going really great in the tourism
Starting point is 02:31:07 sector now. Hmm. The UK is seeing a slight dip in tourism numbers, something around 3% this year compared to last year, but there's no reason to say that immigrants are the reason that number is low. If you ask the UK tourism organization, Visit Britain, their story is a little different as they told the independent quote, we've seen a slow down from Europe with our research showing concern on the impact or the uncertainty of Brexit is having on visitors from the EU. That doesn't sound right.
Starting point is 02:31:33 Hmm. Daily news storms of the staggering incompetence and pure evil of Brexit has made people not want to go there. Hmm. That just doesn't sound right. That doesn't sound true. But that's the particular place where their tourism numbers are down in visitors from other EU countries.
Starting point is 02:31:52 Right. And their internal research is indicative that it's Brexit that's causing that dip. Is that accurate? I don't know. But I think I'll probably trust the director of a British tourism board on British tourism related issues over Alex Jones talking shit. Hmm. As for Sweden, Stockholm, I'll quote you from the local quote, tourists in Sweden spent
Starting point is 02:32:11 317 billion kronor in 2017 enough to make it the top year for tourism of all time. Yeah, but that was just a few people spending 100 million each. So the tourism was down 80%. Nope. According to macro trends, this is part of an upward trend where 2016 saw a 12.89% increase in tourism. And then 27 continued that trend with an 11.29 increase in numbers of tourists that came to visit.
Starting point is 02:32:40 There's no truth to what Dan and Alex are saying here. There's making shit up based on their feelings about these cities and how many videos they see of scary brown people in them and YouTube. That's all they're expressing here is that they don't want to visit these cities because of how many immigrants are in them, which is undeniably racist. Yep. You can tell that by the examples that Dan lists of cities where tourism is up. Poland is an example that white nationalists use all the time.
Starting point is 02:33:06 It is weird. Yeah. You could even go to Poland and declare yourself a white nationalist. Some have done that. Yeah. In documentaries. I've heard it before. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:33:16 So that's a destination that gets brought up by people in that sector quite a bit. Of course. That's a shocking point about how great a country it is because they don't have immigrants there. It's so great. They don't allow anybody in. And then with Croatia, he's just making shit up there too. Allow me to read to you from a July 2019 article in total Croatian news. Quote, after several years of growth at unrealistically high rates caused by external factors, the
Starting point is 02:33:37 Croatian tourist season of 2019 has so far seen a slight stagnation and decline. Quote, we have to prepare ourselves well for these new circumstances and be prepared to fight for each and every guest, said Franco Palma of the Croatian Chamber of Commerce. This isn't a terrible thing. It's not to say the Croatia sucks or no one's going there. It's just to make abundantly clear that Dan is not having a conversation based on reality. It's based on his feelings. Like maybe a friend of his recently went to Zagreb and had a really good time there.
Starting point is 02:34:05 Maybe it's because he knows that Croatia has a largely homogenous population with relatively few non-brown people. Who knows? Non-white people. Oh yeah. Yeah. Who knows? The argument these guys are trying to make is that bringing in immigrants has crushed
Starting point is 02:34:20 France, Sweden, and UK's tourism industries and places like Poland and Croatia are on the rise because they have no immigrants there. They're further asserting that the people in charge must have known that bringing in immigrants would have this effect, so they must be doing it for a reason. Probably because they wanted to crush the tourism sector to destroy the economy. If you take a step back and look at the numbers, it's easy to see that both of these arguments aren't based on anything other than Dan and Alex's feelings about immigrants. Namely that they hate them.
Starting point is 02:34:48 I don't look. It's fine when they're, it's not fine when they're lying. It's awful when they're just straight up lying. What stings the most to me, because I feel like it's a microcosm of that nationalist worldview period, is when they say things that are not just not true, but demonstrably the opposite. That really stings. If you just lie about, like, hey, Jordan eats spaghetti sauce every morning for breakfast.
Starting point is 02:35:17 This is scandalous. That's fine. You made that up. But if I ate the opposite of spaghetti sauce every morning, I would be furious with you. You get yourself into a real hole. You are. I know. I really couldn't understand it.
Starting point is 02:35:29 What is that? Cheese? I don't know. You gotta be more careful. Yeah. That was the worst possible, but it's that the opposite is true, and the same thing is always true with, for instance, Brexit and shit like that. They'll just say, oh, we're going to get an extra $10 million for the national health
Starting point is 02:35:44 or 10 million pounds for the national health system, and then they do the numbers and what's actually true is they're going to be winding up, they're going to wind up losing 10 million pounds for the national health system. Of course. And you're like, just lie, just don't say the opposite. We can't actually live in 1984. Well, these people that Alex and Dan are talking to are just completely absorbed within this right wing media sphere where their perceptions about these countries are completely molded
Starting point is 02:36:13 by the sensational videos that they see posted and taken out of context and reporting from people like Paul Joseph Watson, who sees fit to use a year old Reddit post that's clearly bullshit as evidence of something. So they're already that audience. So when you talk like this, you can lie about whatever the fuck you want, and it's better for you just to use your feelings. Yeah. Tourism's down 80% Paris.
Starting point is 02:36:37 That would lead to a like a literal fucking budget crisis for France. If tourism were down 80%, all we would read all day is why is France burning? Like that's it. Yeah. And I understand that a lot of the numbers I was looking at were France as opposed to Paris, but you got to understand most of the tourism is going to Paris. And if it were down 80%, the country would be crippled. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 02:37:02 Like their whole tourism numbers would be down so hard. Same for London, same for Stockholm. Those are tourist destinations within those countries that make up the majority of tourist travel. Of course. For any of them to be affected in any meaningful way, the country could not possibly be setting a record for tourism. It just couldn't function.
Starting point is 02:37:26 No. That's, God, that's so fucking annoying. It is. It's not, and it's not annoying because I have to reference 1984, and that's cliche. It's annoying because we're actually living it and we're living a cliche, and it's boring. It's fucking boring. It is a little bit. So Alex talks some shit about China and immigrants in this next clip.
Starting point is 02:37:48 Why not? Now remember, China won't take one person from any of these places, the Middle East, Africa, you name it. So that's an interesting claim. There we go. According to the UN High Commissioner for Refugees report for 2015, China definitely does have a low intake of refugees, but Alex is still being completely unfair and lying. A vast majority of the refugees, they accept in China from Vietnam.
Starting point is 02:38:09 However, that year, they also let in 182 Somalians, 86 Nigerians, 52 Iraqis, 45 Liberians, and 362 people from unspecified countries. These numbers are very low, but it's also unfair for Alex to say they don't accept a single person. That is a lie. Yeah. I know Alex is really pushing hard for Trump to have an immigration policy that's tough and is designed to, let's say, quote, promote economic development and national security
Starting point is 02:38:36 while maintaining social stability. Do you, boy, that really sounds like a lot of words for what you actually mean, which is keep white people in and keep everybody else out. Oh, I also wasn't quoting anything that Trump or Alex has said. That's the Chinese government's policy position on immigration. Ah, there we go. So it's really super ironic that Alex spends all day yelling about China and pointing fingers at them while really actually wanting our country to be more like them.
Starting point is 02:39:01 When I hear him say that China doesn't let in immigrants, it's easy to hear him saying that as if he thinks it's bad that they don't. In reality, it's a baby throwing a tantrum saying China could do it. Why can't we? Yep. That's what he's saying. That's exactly what he's saying. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:39:16 You hear it and you're a human, so you're like, oh, we all agree that accepting refugees is a good thing. And you should point the finger at China for not accepting more people in. Exactly. And that's not what a human does. That's what a human does. What Alex does is go, look, other people, they don't let people in and they're probably fine.
Starting point is 02:39:36 Uh-huh. Yep. Why can't I? Why can't I? So I get some bad news in this next clip. I just want to say racist things in a forest without accidentally leaving my phone on so everybody knows how racist I am. Or not realizing someone walked up by.
Starting point is 02:39:48 Yeah. Exactly. So I got some bad news in this next clip. Sure. All right. So the transmission is constitutional lawyer Robert Barnes. Damn it. Whoa!
Starting point is 02:39:58 He upgraded to constitutional lawyer? He's been, that's one of his credits all the time. Oh, that's what he's been. Has he ever read it? Yeah, probably. Okay. Barnes. We got some more Barnes.
Starting point is 02:40:08 We got some more Barnes. We got some more Barnes. We got some more Barnes. Check's in. Check out. So does Dunstan, actually. That's 100% true. I don't give a fuck about the stuff that Barnes is saying is, but I do have one clip of him.
Starting point is 02:40:19 All right. It's a piece of information about our, you know, hearing Alex kind of giving up. Yeah. But at the same time, still trying to sell things. Right. It's very weird. So now he enlists Barnes to do an ad read. No.
Starting point is 02:40:35 Yeah. Fuck yes. I never asked you to do this, but you were chiming in. You really like our Wake of America coffee. And you were saying you really like brain force. Oh yeah. So I mean, I've always got the coffee, which is great. It was fantastic.
Starting point is 02:40:46 Some of the best coffee I've ever had. That's the reason why I get them a bit of a coffee snob. I've always got the fluoride free toothpaste because I like that because I always had concerns about fluoride, which were recently confirmed in a wide range of studies after they were criticizing it for forever and saying there's no worries, no concerns. All of a sudden they're like, well, it actually causes baby defects. Oh no. And then, and then I like the protein bars because they're a good sort of intermediate
Starting point is 02:41:09 snack. So when you want something to eat between sort of lunch and dinner or between dinner and a late snack and you don't want it just to be, you know, little Debbie's or Swiss cake roll. You want a snack between dinner and a late snack. Then protein bars really hit the spot. But so with the protein bars, I got a free sample of brain force. And typically I'm not a supplement guy.
Starting point is 02:41:29 So supplement doesn't usually like unlike other people, my brain chemistry is such that it's unaffected by most medicines. You are weird. Unaffected by a wide range of things. So I just generally haven't tried it. But one thing I've looked for over the years is when I was in law school, they had something called two way, which allowed me to have sort of peak mental ability during law school exams. And the only side effect was when you crashed, you crashed, but there was no other major
Starting point is 02:41:52 side effect to it. It turned out there were some illegal products in it. So it's no longer available. You were on speed. You were on speed, you fucking moron. I'm not feeling anything that could come close to it. So I got a free sample and I was like, well, what the heck, I'll try and see if it works. Because because of the nature of my legal work, I have these peak times where I need peak
Starting point is 02:42:08 mental activity, whether it's doing a trial, whether it's about to be in front of a court hearing, whether it's doing an appellate oral argument. There are times when you're up for two days. Oh, exactly. So I need to be able to, during that time period of when I'm, you know, I used to be able to stay up two days, no problem. You know, didn't blink twice. On speed.
Starting point is 02:42:23 No problem. No problem. I had no problem staying up two days as long as I had a lot of math. Yeah. As long as I had a lot of math, I stayed up for weeks even. I only got through law school because I was on stimulants that actually had illegal things in them. And so you can't get them anymore.
Starting point is 02:42:40 Holy shit. That was my asshole. What a read. That was his product. That was really good. I had that speed that I took back when I was in college and I've never found anything that was quite as good as that, but now I found brain force and it's just like speed. Honestly, that's the best read you could do for brain force.
Starting point is 02:42:56 Right. It's still unbecoming as hell for a lawyer. Oh, I don't understand how he didn't have his law license revoked after reading that. That is insane. Well, it's, it's worse that he's not reading it. This is extemporaneous. That's extemporaneous. I believe so.
Starting point is 02:43:10 Oh my fucking God. One, he is good. If he's making that up off the top of his head, he is revealing a lot of crimes that he's committed. He's not that good cause he did say you need a snack between dinner and a late night snack. That's true. That wasn't misspeaking. If he had written that out ahead of time, I don't think he would have said that.
Starting point is 02:43:26 That's true. That's true. Is it okay for you to practice law while admitting all the crimes you committed to become a lawyer? Hey man, I'm not, I'm not one of these squares who says you can't do drugs in college. I'm all for it. Get off that. I'm all for it. I don't judge him for that.
Starting point is 02:43:43 I just think it's, it's more funny that it's like I did drugs. I did these fucking speed drugs in college and now brain forces just like it. That's a very weird way to sell this product. Um, I mean, you, the reason you're getting it is cause you want speed. I understand that. So selling it as like, Hey, this is like speed. It's almost as good. I understand that.
Starting point is 02:44:04 But at the same time, not having the single moment of clarity that he should have had, which is it turns out I was taking something that I didn't know what was inside of it and it was speed. It was awesome. And I loved it. Yeah. Right. So this brain force, which I don't know what's inside of it makes me feel exactly like those
Starting point is 02:44:25 pills I took that I didn't know what was inside of them that had speed in them. It also puts into question like that pressured speech that he has could be like, Yeah, exactly. Or some byproduct of his, his chemistry and brain force, well, he has, he has an incredible chemistry. Apparently, we can't be affected by medicine. I'm unaffected by medicines. God, what a scam lawyer.
Starting point is 02:44:49 What a dick. What a fucking scam lawyer if there ever was it for his coffee cause I'm a coffee snob. What a fucking asshole. Yeah. You know, all those boutique coffee shops that serve info wars coffee, the highest end of the coffee. I had someone who used to work for like legit roasters, like, or the company that would distribute like high end artisanal roast coffees.
Starting point is 02:45:16 It's ludicrous to think that in the conversation of these coffees would even be info wars wake up America blend ridiculous. Well, what they do is Alex personally goes to South America in order to find the best coffee beans for only the best for info wars blend. If ever there's an argument for like him not being allowed to be a lawyer, I think that clip has got to be it. Like you can't, that's, that's unbecoming. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:45:43 That just, Also you're lying. Yeah. You're lying to people. Yeah. Bald facedly. So this is the 9 11 episode and he does not get into 9 11 until like about the third hour of the show.
Starting point is 02:45:56 Yeah. And he just plays a clip of that, you know, the clip of Trump being interviewed on TV on 9 11. Right. But he mysteriously edits out that part where Trump brags about now how he has the biggest building in the city. Oh, he left that part out. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 02:46:09 Cut it out. Cut it out. That's weird. I thought he would leave that part in because that shows how great the president is. No, no, he seems to not want to bring that part of the, the interview and into the conversation. Why? Because it makes the man sound soulless like a psychopath who should be kept as far away from the rest of the human race as possible.
Starting point is 02:46:26 And at very least a little bit of a weird out. Yeah. Well, I don't care about the little bit that Alex talked about 9 11 because it's kind of the standard bullshit you always hear him talk about. And it's just too, it's too unspecific and stupid. Yeah. Like his, his version of all what he sounds like is someone trying to sound like an expert but who's forgotten all of his curriculum.
Starting point is 02:46:49 Yeah. Like he hasn't really done 9 11 shit in a long time. Right. He's forgotten a lot of his narratives. He's dusting off the old material and he doesn't have the, he doesn't have the chops anymore. He knows he produced loose change and he probably remembers some of the stuff in that. Yeah. But he's, it's, it's not worthwhile.
Starting point is 02:47:07 It's really kind of sad. This episode is really more about that abortion shit. Yeah. Like really that's the takeaway of this. But we've one last clip and I think that this clip perfectly describes Alex. I think he's describing it as a way people look at him. And I think that way that people look at him is well deserved. It's like we're the little kids at the little kid table and government and the think tanks,
Starting point is 02:47:29 they're all over there running things in big tech and they've already decided our future. They tell us it's a post human future and they're like, Hey, we see you doing this. We see you doing that. And they're like, shut up. That's not going on. Now the interpretation of all the other stuff is kind of stupid, but that's what someone at the kids table would think. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:47:46 He is. He doesn't, he's not responsible enough to sit with the adults. Yeah. Also shut up. None of that stuff is happening. He would start throwing food at people like you wouldn't be able to have a conversation if he was sitting at the adults table. Yes, you're at the kids table, Alex, because your behavior has relegated you to that.
Starting point is 02:48:05 Right. Like you can't, you can't possibly act the way he does. Like when he was on that BBC show and he's just yelling info wars.com over people. You can't act like that in public and expect that anyone is going to be like, Oh, this is a serious person. We've got to, we've got to allow him to sit with us and really talk about ideas and policy and like, of course not. No, you're a fucking showman.
Starting point is 02:48:27 Yeah. You're a clown. Go do the most that somebody at that kids table with that kind of behavior we could do. You're very successful at the kids table, which is become president, I believe, actually. You're very good. Become president by acting like a fucking child. You're very successful at the kids table and I applaud you for it, but you're come off
Starting point is 02:48:46 that shit. So we get to the end of this, this stretch and it's, you know, it's a, it's an interesting portrait that we see. I think that in theory, the problem is solving itself. The free market of ideas has rejected him. And now he would not say that the free market of ideas has rejected him. Well, he's at the kids table, so he can fuck off. Well, the problem is that the kids table and everybody at it right now seems to have guns
Starting point is 02:49:13 pointed at the adults table and we're at fucking hostages. That is true. That's not a pleasant situation. No. So we'll see what happens. I'm excited for the possibility of Alex going broke. I think that could be fun. That will be fun.
Starting point is 02:49:28 We'll see. But we'll find out as time goes on. Yeah, it would be nice to have him declare bankruptcy. That would be very shodden, Freudery. It'd be an interesting chapter. And the fact that even if in fours goes under, he could still do a podcast like that'd be super easy. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:49:43 Like that would be a really good idea. In the marketplace of ideas for real. And he would not like that. That would be a really interesting dynamic or an interesting development to see. Like him go to like, I mean, he'd never would do this because he couldn't make tons of money. But like, it would be interesting to see what he would do if like, just like, I got nothing. I'm just going to sit here with a mic humbly. I don't think it would work.
Starting point is 02:50:06 I don't think he's going to do that. I think he'll become a farmer and disappear. Those two assholes can make a podcast. Knowledge fight fight. I'll just talk about their show. That would be awesome. That would be amazing. Alex do it.
Starting point is 02:50:18 I would love that. That'd be awesome. So anyway, we'll be back. We'll see what happens with this. I think I'm going to stick in the present because I want to get in while. I want to see where this I'm going broke. You just want to let you just love listening to Barnes. Deep down.
Starting point is 02:50:30 It's not that deep down. I can tell you 100. Form of self-harm. No, it's not. I hate listening to Barnes unless he's talking about pre-late night snacks and I'm interested. You get a snack in between dinner and your late night snack, you know, sure. So we'll be back. But until then, we have a website, knowledgefight.com.
Starting point is 02:50:50 You jump. We're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight and that go to bed Jordan. We're also on Facebook. We are a Facebook. If you want to download the podcast, you can go to iTunes. The best way to listen to it that I have found though is go to your local mattress store. The one thing racist, the one that is going 50% out of business, you say something racist
Starting point is 02:51:12 you will find out that all, you know how they always have all those TVs in there. All of them will turn on and Alex Jones will appear and out of each of those screens shall come a hand holding a thumb stick. Like the ring. And that will be our show. Uh huh. Uh, yeah. We'll be back.
Starting point is 02:51:29 But until then, I'm Nio. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I am the Jesus lizard. Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex.
Starting point is 02:51:38 I'm a first name caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.

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