Knowledge Fight - #348: September 24-25, 2019

Episode Date: September 27, 2019

Today, Dan and Jordan look at how Alex Jones has been covering the massive news of the previous few days. Trump gave an anti-Globalist speech at the UN, the House launched an impeachment inquiry, and Alex announced some lawsuits he's filing. Yet, the most important news on this episode may be that Alex thinks someone who definitely was not a US president was actually a US president.

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No, no, no, no, no, no, knowledgefight.com. I love you. Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around drinking novelty beverages and talk just a tiny bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan.

Jordan, this is exhausting times, but what do you got going on? Dan, I was just going to ask you real quick. Yeah. One question. Sure. Well, it might be two questions, depending on your definition. I might have time for both of them. We will see.

Have you either been the pitcher of or receiver of a surprise party? Nope. Next question. I feel like it has to have happened or I've been involved in one, but if it has, there is no memory. No memory. It's uneventful enough to the point where I have no idea. I know that I've yelled surprise at somebody.

Anytime you do that, that's a party. Well, I am sure that I've been at a party where we yelled surprise, but to the extent that I remember it in a specific way, it means that I might have been like a third tier friend that was there for a surprise party. Right. I don't know that. I think I'm pretty lucky in that I don't think anyone has ever thought like, let's get down to a spot.

I bet he loves that. You're not, you're not a surprise party guy. I think I would actually probably deal with it pretty gracefully, but it's definitely not something I would enjoy. Yeah. But see, you put it that way. I would deal with it gracefully. It's not the same as, thank you for throwing me a surprise party.

I would try not to be grumpy unsuccessfully. I know I've yelled surprise before. I assume I have. What was your second question? Well, that was the, it was either the receiver or pitcher. Oh, okay. It was a clarifying second question. I apologize that I do not have any memories of notable surprise parties.

That's interesting. I do know a lot about Alex Jones. That is true. Yeah. That is my redeeming quality for this introduction. We got it. So Jordan today, the world is on fire. In what year?

The Hills are alive with the sound of bullshit is how I would describe this. Come on. It's just the end. So there's a lot going on in the world. And when we put out our last episode for Wednesday, we had, we did a present day episode, but we had done it before. A lot of the news that's relevant and people are probably interested now in Alex's take on had broken.

So today we're staying in the present. Yeah. And we are going to be going over September 24th and 25th, which would be what was that Tuesday and Wednesday of this week. Any interesting newsworthy and noteworthy events on those two days? I had trouble pulling clips. There's a lot going on. Yeah.

So we've got, first of all, for everyone who doesn't know the broad strokes of what's been going on, we have the Trump Ukraine situation. Yeah. If you're listening to this in posterity. Yes. That's the way we have the news breaking of the impeachment inquiry in the house. We have Trump going to the UN and saying that the future is for global or not for global. Not for global.

Patriots. Patriots. He said Patriots. I can't pronounce it funny. I've been listening to him speak for two years. His speech beyond just its context, its delivery was like a dude who got hit with a quailude dart. Jesus.

Like it was very lethargic. See that every time somebody describes one of his speeches, I'm like, maybe I should listen to it. And then I just don't. It was upsetting. And I only listened to most of it because of Alex playing a lot of it. Of course. So you've got all that stuff.

And then the big breaking news on Wednesday was that Alex Jones has launched his web, I'm sorry, his lawsuits that he's been talking about forever. Oh, that was the breaking news. Well, that was one of them. That wasn't covered in the guardians live blog. No, certainly not. And thankfully, I hope no one covers it except us quite not because I want to like claim the space.

Right. Because I think it's a publicity stunt. And we'll get into that as we go through it. There is a lot fucking going on. No, that means Barnes. There'll be minimal bars. But before we get down to any of this business here, we got to take a little moment to say thank you to some people who've signed up and are sporting the show and make this here

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It would be lovely. So we're going to start on the 24th. But before we get to that here is an out of context drop from today's show. And you know, I'm going to tell you something. This country's done. This country's soft. This country's stupid. This country's weak.

Oh, Alex. All right. Okay. Why have you had to turn on the country? That's rough. That's a harsh turn. That's bad. I thought we were doing great against the globalists and shit like that.

That's bad news for Americans when they lose the king of Americana. The king of loving this country. Yeah. Yeah. All you people are soft and weak. Well, sometimes you wind up killing the things you love the most. I suppose so. So, Jordan, before as we get into this, I don't have any clips at the beginning of the show

because the first 20 minutes of it is just a pretty uninspired attack on Greta Thunberg, who I'll remind you is 16 years old. I don't understand. Alex spends the first chunk of the show comparing her to Hitler and talking about the Hitler youth. And to be sure, Greta's age doesn't make her above criticism, but it should really make her off limits to this style of targeting and demonization, even if you thoroughly detest the message that she's putting out.

Like, I've missed out on some prime dunking opportunities in the course of doing this podcast as it relates to Sof, the racist 14-year-old, or Alex's son Rex. But it's just not right to treat youths like that, even if you disagree vehemently about their positions. Or at least that's my position, and I think that's a pretty decent way to operate. I mean, especially if you imagine yourself back when you were 15, 16, some of the things that you said you'd probably stand behind, but some of it you wouldn't want to be called fucking Hitler youth.

Oh, absolutely. It's crazy. Oh, yeah. We've even talked very little about the Covington kids on this podcast, except in the context of Barnes being their lawyer, like for kind of similar reasons. Yeah. They're not assholes or whatever, but it's not...leave that for other people. Yeah.

And I don't say this because I don't think Greta can't handle it. You know, I'm not saying that at all. It's clear that she has a very strong character that I only wish I had a slice of at her age. And being a part of this younger online generation, I'm sure her skin is thick enough to not care too much about what a loser like Alex Jones says. It's more that this sort of behavior is the exclusive action of someone who is a monster. It's a sort of thing that Alex would be deeply ashamed to do. Were he capable of that emotion?

And the thing that's even sadder is that he's just repeating other people's ideas. When our Wednesday episode came out where we went over September 23rd of 2019, I got some responses from listeners wondering why we didn't cover Alex talking about Greta. If he was complaining about all that climate change stuff through a good part of that episode. And I probably shouldn't have made this more clear. He didn't really talk about her at all on the 23rd. It wasn't until Tucker Carlson did a segment about her on the evening of the 23rd that she even really entered Alex's head as a target.

And this opening piece on Alex's show is him just taking Tucker's talking points, escalating them and repackaging them for an extremist audience. That's really all that's going on here at the beginning. It's crazy. I was listening to the episode and I'm like, wow, we're almost a half hour into this thing and there is nothing happening except that. Yeah, Greta is fucking made of Damascus steel. And that that I watched the speech that she the harrowing fucking how dare you speech is

a man that Alex does misrepresent that stuff a little bit. Yeah, of course, that belongs in a movie. The one that we're living in where we die very shortly when she was saying we'll be watching you, you know, reflecting that the younger generation is paying attention to what the older generation is doing and how they have every reason to know what they're doing and still failing to act. Alex interpreted that as a big brother message. And it's like, what?

She's she's talking about the chai comms. All right, that's stupid. God, that was what that was one of my favorite lines just because people applauded at that. Yeah. And I was just like looking at all talking about like she's talking about you. It is the all of the people applauding. Those are the ones she's watching. We don't need to watch the guys who are actively fucking destroying the planet.

Yeah, we can see that out of our fucking peripheral vision. And I think that's another thing that sort of lost on Alex is that her target and who she was speaking most condemningly about wasn't people like Alex or even these climate deniers necessarily, but the people who lack the will of conviction to do something. Yeah. Imagine that there was a an entire conference of Nancy Pelosi's. That's who she was talking. Sure.

So I only bring that up that this was a big chunk of the episode because we're going to get into stuff and it feels kind of in media res. You know, it feels like it's from sort of a ways into the episode. And that's because it is, but I just don't have any patience for listening to him yell about how a 16 year old kid is Hitler. It's pathetic. We are still going to talk a little bit about some of his comments about her, but that stuff flat.

So anyway, along with, you know, attacking youth, Alex has some other stuff to take care of on this episode. Here's what I want to do. We have Carpe Dantum popping in. Great. About 15 minutes into the next hour to talk about the death of the Donald arguably the biggest pro Trump area or domain or realm on the internet. So he's going to have Carpe Dantum on.

Right. Right. Right. To give a good moratorium on the Donald. Right. So that interview is like really standard stuff and we'll get into a little bit of it. But even without listening, I knew what this was going to be about. When he's talking about, I'm going to have Carpe Dantum on to talk about the Donald.

I knew it was up. Like Carpe Dantum has started his meme world site and he's trying to lay claim to the legacy of the Donald subreddit. And he's hoping that he can direct traffic from the people who are there to his new thing because there were millions of visitors to the Donald. Yeah. And there are not millions of visitors to meme world. No, no, no.

And he had almost a hundred likes on one post, right? Absolutely. 104 on a, on a Ben Garrison one. Oh, okay. Well, then never mind. This is a doomed exercise, partially because his website sucks and partially because what made the Donald work had a lot to do with the infrastructure of Reddit and how it was designed. Meme world has a vastly inferior structure and it lacks the millions of people just sort

of casually browsing the site who are the targets of the memes that would come out of the Donald without the unaware audience of millions upon whom you can subject your bullshit loses any value to anyone. And I suspect Carpe Doctin is going to learn that lesson the hard way. And Alex is too, because he is really pitching in with this meme world bullshit. Oh man. It's, it's, it's like watching two dinosaurs try and drive a car. It's like you guys do not belong here.

Wrong. Wrong. Get out of that car, you idiot. So Alex starts talking about, you know, globalist stuff, starts ranting about demons. They do it. I mean, there's no better way to introduce this clip. It's just, just ranting about bullshit. They tell you in all their Hollywood movies what they're doing.

The main program in Tron. Once all the programs bound to it absorbed into it gone, their free will destroyed. Their souls devoured. And the main frame is going to give all its power to the beast. Just like in Tron. Got it. All my systems are yours. And the system of oppression is going to become a thousand foot colossus.

Like Tron. But it has clay feet built on mud going to fall. So all you servants of Satan keep doubling down, keep arrogantly claiming you're in power. Look at you. You're falling and ugly. The demons aren't too nice to you. You take on their form, don't you? And then you become nothing more than slaves.

Let's look at Greta. Greta Thunberg pumped full of more vaccines and a porcupine. Looking just like the Grinch, whose heart was three times too small. What? Brainwashed by her antifa parents to hate civilization, to hate humanity, but to believe that she has a right to rule and to cut off the fossil fuels. Her Swedish antifa parents? Yeah.

Well, I mean, there are pictures of them apparently. I don't know if they're real or not. I don't care. But there's pictures of her parents and her in like anti-fascist t-shirts. Don't even need it. And hey, guess what? Who cares? Don't care.

Don't care. Don't even want to bother with it. No, no, but all that. Others are like, wait, Alex, you've got her vaccination records. Yeah. Well, I mean, do you have your porcupine's vaccination records is my next question. I usually say that because they got a lot of needles. He's clever.

He knows how to make a sentence. Yeah. I mean, that's pretty gross, but I mean, that's sort of the level of shit that he's got going on as it relates to this, this young lady. And it's just, you know, it's bad. It's bad. She's, you know, he's attacking her, uh, sort of, uh, you've been vaccinated. All this and your, your mind's been destroyed by these vaccines.

You look like the Grinch. Yeah. Like that's just, I mean, that's not even great to do to an adult. No. Do you know who insults a 16 year old like that? Cool guy. 16 year olds. Oh yeah.

Do you know who shouldn't do that? Adults. 45 year old. There we go. Brilliant brain genius types like Alex Jones. Yeah. Yeah. I think she's there at the end that she's trying to get rid of the fossil fuels.

She's trying to rule by destroying fossil fuels. Cool. I'm fine with that. I will let her rule if she can successfully destroy fossil fuels. She gets the gig. You have shown yourself to be anti-fossil fuel and I need to tell you something. Yes, I have. Over the years.

You have put yourself in league with literal demons. Well, yeah, I did do that. You may not know that, but I should want you that Alex has some weird things to say. Okay. That it's almost like there's a God. Put him here right when the earth starts losing his atmosphere, which we are lowest level of carbon dioxide ever recorded in the last century. A trace gas.

Not even one tenth of one percent. And suddenly we find giant supplies of it held within the earth at the key time to terraform and save the planet. Zoom in. Jacked. Space troopers dropping in. Turn it off. Kill.

Humans are bad. Give it to everyone. Save yourselves by dying. I mean, dropping in, man. Avataring in. Sure. And not avataring in to save the planet to killing. Yeah.

So I find this really weird because here we see Alex telling his audience that the real issue with climate change is that there are demons who want to stop the world from releasing CO2 into the air because the earth is CO2 deficient and God placed fossil fuel reserves into the ground so humans could find them at just the time, you know, the right time to save the world by burning them. Yes. Polluting a whole bunch. Exactly.

That is what he's putting forth here. Yeah. Because that's correct. Right. They're jacking in like avatars. But see, it's weird for me because, you know, these are the ravings of a lunatic. Yes. That is an issue.

It's also weird because I thought his problem with climate change promoters was that they were just trying to force people to pay carbon taxes that would enrich Al Gore and George Soros while destroying the West. Now it's a plot by demons to stop God's plan to save the earth. This guy can't get his fucking story straight. It's metastasized. You know, it started with Soros and Gore and then the demons got their little claws in there and now here we are.

As to Alex's claim that CO2 levels are at their lowest ever, that's complete bullshit. Scientists have been able to use ice core samples to measure the CO2 levels in the air from as far back as 800,000 years, which is a lot longer than Homo sapiens have been around. Not sure. Not sure what you're saying. And do you mean less than 10,000 years ago? Let's just say that in the present day, every year sets a new record for the highest atmospheric CO2 levels.

We're at levels unseed in recorded history. And in order to know when the last time the atmosphere looked like this, scientists have just had to guess. Very uncharted waters. Well, I mean, I remember somebody said that the Triassic period was marked by a massive CO2 explosion or expansion. And that's why the plants were so large, which is why dinosaurs were allowed to grow so long.

There's some theories. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I am assuming that we are going to become like the dinosaurs. Hey, that'd be good for sports. Can't argue with that. What do you not want sports to do well? I love sports doing well. Yeah.

What Alex is saying is a complete lie. Quite literally the opposite of what the consensus view of every credible source I can find says. He's not living in reality. He's just promoting to his audience a fantasy where the real battle of Armageddon is over regulations on the fossil fuel industry. And you really got to ask yourself, why would someone do that? So I should tell you this. I got to about an hour into this show and it dawned on me that Alex hadn't even referenced

Donald Trump's speech at the UN. Where, you know, he said that the future doesn't belong to globalists. It belongs to patriots, which is basically him doing Alex's show in front of the UN. Yes. That seemed really weird to me. His Trump gave his remarks at approximately 9.15 a.m. Austin time. So there's legitimately no way Alex should be unaware of that speech by the time he goes

on air at 11. It just seemed really strange to me that he's wasting his time rambling about Greta Thunberg and talking about like, we're going to have Carpe Donkton on to talk about the Donald. Like he's just doing nothing related to what everyone else is concerned about. Yes. It's very strange to me. Like I understand that when there's bad news that he doesn't want to cover. Right.

But this should be like triumphant news. It should be like we are fucking doing it. Right. Trump gave the bird to the secretary general. Yeah. I mean, maybe it's because if he played the clip of it, everybody would go, oh my God, is he dying? Well, you haven't listened to it.

And Alex does play the clips the next day. He plays them on the 25th. Okay. But it's so weird to me. This is his stock and trade. This is his business. I hate globalists. I love patriots.

Yes. Here's the president saying exactly that at the UN. Right. But isn't that in and of itself a contradiction? Well, no. Because you get to present it as like he's going into the den of vipers. Right. He's like a heroic conquering statesman coming in there.

Fair. This is the easiest fucking spin for him to make. And it's so weird to me. It's so weird because there's no indication until quite a ways into this show that even really has heard it knows anything about it. Yeah. It's very strange. Weird.

Instead, he spends time complaining more about climate change stuff and telling a almost certainly fake story about his kid's birthday party. I have, I have three daughters and so there's been a lot of birthday parties. We usually have my parents, my parents without a big pool. At least the daughters that fall in the summer, which is two of them. It's a great story. And there'll be all these mothers there. And they'll come over and say, you know, I'm really kind of a liberal, but my daughter

comes home and cries when she drives by and sees a new house being built. Checking the animals, the bugs, the bunnies are dying. She feels really guilty and says she wants to die. So I kind of hear what you're saying is right now. And then the daughter swims over and goes, look at my toy turtle. And that's a true story. And I hear those constantly. That's a true story.

You wouldn't have needed to say it was a true story if it was a true story. But that explains, like on our last episode, he was talking about like middle schoolers wanting to kill them. So that's clearly what he has to back that up. An apocryphal story about a mother at a pool party. That almost certainly didn't happen. Almost certainly. Also, if a middle schooler is swimming up and being like, look at my toy turtle.

That's a problem. That is a problem. I think there are some holes in the story. Yeah. Yeah. I think there might be a few. Maybe a few. What liberal mom is going to Alex Jones's parents house?

Even if your kid was best friends with Alex Jones's kids, you're not going there. I mean, you might just because it's unsafe. You might assume it's unsafe. Oh, that's fair. That's fair. But then you're and I don't even know what this conversation. I don't even want to try and decode what the reality of this conversation might be. What kind of polite conversation Alex is misinterpreting.

Yeah. But whatever. So Alex gets around to complaining some more about Greta Thunberg and this is this is great because this is production value in in on full display. So let's go ahead and roll the video in the audio of just the brief exchange where Trump comes walking into the U.N. right after she gives us into the world rent says we are watching you. You will pay if control to central banks of all oil all production tax everything.

Oh, you will pay. This is her looking at Trump. Here it is. Look at that. Absolutely amazing. That was amazing. Yeah. We're slowing that down.

Radio listeners can't see this but you need to see it for yourself. Oh no. He can hear it but we can't know. Or he's just playing a silent video on on his show. Oh no. Which really is like who even care about doing a radio show. Jesus. Yeah.

There's a reason I don't think we've ever played like a video. And I know Alex is like I'm on all these TV stations. Yeah, I know Tom Pappert runs your show. Sure. But but still it's it's you should you should think about the format of what you're doing and not play silent videos on a radio show. All right. It's funky.

And just to demonstrate we're going to play a wonderful Buster Keaton short right now. Sure. Everybody stay tuned. This is great. Yeah. So you know there's conversation even on the 24th that's going around about impeachment of Trump. Yeah.

People are going to throw this around. People are having the conversation being like we got to do it. Yeah. What are we going to do. And I think and I get the sense pretty strongly that Alex is going to curtail the subject of actual impeachment. So he doesn't have to deal with any of the the murkier issues. Right.

By changing the the certain the conversation a little. That's a smart move. I would say so. Yeah. And then the news is moving so fast. The globalist left are all over the place calling for Trump's impeachment and his execution the former governor of Massachusetts Bill Weld. We're going to play that clip coming up next segment.

I'm going to open the phones up. So Governor Weld was on morning Joe and he said it's nothing short of treason. Yeah. We all know what happens to the traders. Yes. Exactly. It was it was along those lines and now Alex has turned that into they're calling for the assassination of Trump his execution.

Hey if a Republican wants to call for the assassination of Trump listen it's not my job to say no. The GOP has the GOP has their own rules now. So by this point in the show we're always in probably like an hour hour and a half into the show. Alex starts talking about the UN speech but he still doesn't really bring up the globalist patriot. Yeah. Instead he has this to say I get irritated with Trump because I want to fight the globalist

harder and I see how criminal they are and how they've gotten away with it. No president in 50 something years has given a speech about religious persecution to the UN and he's put laws in place where churches can talk about their political views, talk about abortion and the Second Amendment. So he's reinforced the First Amendment. I mean he's just done a lot. He's done a lot. Alex is making shit up.

Well you don't get to say that. Does he actually expect people to believe that Trump is the first US president in like 50 years to talk about religious persecution at the UN? He's not even the first president since he became president to do that. It's total bullshit. All you have to do is go back to Obama's final address to the UN in September 2016 and Alex is already wrong. From that speech, quote, I do not believe progress is possible.

If our desire to preserve our identities gives way to an impulse to dehumanize or dominate another group. If our religion leads us to persecute those of another faith. If we jail or beat people who are gay. If our traditions lead us to prevent girls from going to school. If we discriminate on the basis of race or tribe or ethnicity, then the fragile bonds of civilization will fray. Right.

Okay. You mistook that for a speech about religious persecution. You're mistaking a speech against religious persecution. He said if our religion leads us to persecute those of another faith, civilization will fray. Right. Alex is talking about a speech for religious persecution. Let me read a little more of Obama's speech. So Trump would like to persecute people religiously.

Obama went on to say, quote, we will see, we see this mindset in too many parts of the Middle East. There so much of the collapse in order, in order has been fueled because leaders sought legitimacy, not because of policies or programs, but by resorting to persecuting political opponents or demonizing other religious sects. If you do literally any research into this, like literally any, you'll find tons of instances of pretty much every president to crying religious persecution when addressing the UN. But you hit the nail on the head, Jordan.

Alex isn't talking about to crying religious persecution, especially not as a universal issue that needs to be dealt with. He's praising Trump for validating his bullshit narratives about his version of right-wing Christianity being under attack. Yeah. That's what's going on. Yeah. This isn't about having a president who respects religious freedom.

It's about celebrating having a president who's far more interested in the freedom of Christians than in all other religions or non-religious folk. That's probably at the expense of all other religions and non-religious folk. Yeah. This honestly couldn't be more transparent, which is why Alex can still feel like he's correct when he says no president has ever talked about religious oppression at the UN. All those other presidents were talking about all religions, which isn't religious freedom to someone like Alex.

Alex is focusing on this aspect though, not really even highlighting the fact that basically Trump's repeated Alex's biggest talking points in front of the UN, which again, I don't understand. Yeah. It's like if Alex was like, hey, not since Woodrow Wilson has somebody given such a speech on racial equality, and you're like, okay. Yeah. I think he still is operating off of like, all right, I expected to do this show based on the talking points from Tucker last night.

This speech was a bit of a curveball in the morning. Let's see where it lands. Let me feel it out on air before I go too far with it. Yeah. Let me have my interns listen to it and make sure he didn't say psych at the end or something. I don't know what it is, but it's got to be something like that. Yeah. You know, he's like, I have my talk.

I've been burned too many times before. He said he was a globalist and now he's saying that then is the future not going to belong to him? Well, he was a globalist and a nationalist. No! So, but the focus is very largely on Greta Thunberg. Yeah. Because again, that's what everyone needs to talk about.

That's what all the right wing media has focused and decided to like attack, attack, attack. Cause we're adults. And we've come to a point where Alex is now following in the wake of people like Tucker, as opposed to being the one who's more extreme than them. Right. Now he has to wait, follow their lead and make whatever they're saying more fucked up. Right. And that's not even a really good game for him anymore because there's plenty of other

websites that do that. There, there's a whole fucking cottage industry. You can get, you can get fucking, Scaramucci will record a video and send it to you for a hundred dollars of doing whatever bullshit. Scaramucci on the show. Hell yeah. So Alex complains a bunch in a bunch of little different ways here about Greta. And I think that there's one piece of this that's interesting, one piece that's sad,

and another piece that's even sadder on a pettiness level. Okay. So Greta Thunberg has been rejected in Germany. She's very unpopular in Europe, but they force feeder as this youth believing it will make the youth suddenly hate their parents and get in their faces. And she's got Antifa parents. She's an Antifa member. We've got the photos and all the admissions.

She's there being run by the Soros organization when she was at the UN. And Trump shows up while she's sitting there doing a multi hour long photo op ranting hatefully. In fact, here's video shot literally minutes before Trump arrives in the press junket area and steals the show. Here she is threatening everyone. We're watching you. We're coming after you. You're killing all these people.

Climate change. Yep. Yep. He lost the thread there trying to be like, what's another idea? I'll just say climate change. Yeah, I'll just say climate change. So the petty part is that last part. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That one wasn't good. So mad that Trump upstaged her. No. The sad part is Alex, like he has nothing to base his claims that Greta is not popular in Europe on. He's just kind of making that up. I don't remember her being rejected by Germany. German said nice. Did she send a text while she was at the UN just like you up?

Probably. Then Germany did not. Then Germany ghosted her. Merkel said no. Alex has nothing to substantiate his claim that Greta is being used to make children hate their parents either. Nothing in her speech would lead a normal person to the conclusion like that. Unless, of course, the parent in question was someone working actively against climate change action who contributes to leaving the youth with a disastrous environment, then maybe she's encouraging this kid to hate their parents. Dad, why do you scream all day every day about how climate change is a hoax whenever I know for a fact that it's real and we're all going to die soon?

It's because of Greta, you piece of shit. I mean, I love you, baby. Alex is just saying this shit to weave in that whole like globalists want to disrupt families narrative in anywhere he can. The same logic, though, could be turned back around on him. Like he constantly screams about Democrats being literal demons trying to destroy the world and how no one should associate with them. So what if you're a 15 year old infowars listener whose parents are Democrats? Wouldn't that constitute Alex trying to break up your family? Like, you know, this is a stupid game to play.

Yeah, it is a stupid game to play, which is why he's winning at it. Right. Alex is also doing everything in his power to associate Greta with George Soros, which has been a big mission of a lot of the right wing who are grasping at straws trying to attack her. One thing that's been used in service of this is a picture of her posing with Soros, but that picture was photoshopped. It was actually a picture of her with Al Gore that someone just put Soros's head on Al Gore's body. Is Al Gore not good enough for you people anymore? It should be good. Do we not hate Al Gore enough? Alex's version is a little bit more about how Greta has a Soros linked handler who is obviously writing her speeches for her and coaching her.

Greta has a teacher? Who is along with the UN. Yeah, that's what he was saying in that clip. The Soros operation was handling her at the UN. I'm not sure what bullshit website he picked this up from, but ultimately the source goes back to a QAnon Twitter account called Wide Awake QArmy Swiss Division. This account posted a collection of images of Greta with what appears to be the same woman alleged to be Louisa Marie Neubauer who allegedly works for a company called One Foundation which has links to Soros. Soros runs it. Sure, why not?

Even if all these pictures are the same person and Neubauer does work for that foundation, this is still super weak as a connection and doesn't do anything to prove that this is Greta's handler. In order to gauge the credibility of this source, the QAnon Twitter, I decided to take a look at that account. And what do you know? I immediately was faced with multiple retweets of things originally posted by Jordan Sather, one of the big figures in the Q movement. This guy's in pretty deep. Who's Jordan Sather? He's a big QAnon guy on Twitter. I do my best to avoid any QAnon shit.

Right, then don't worry about it. Okay. Anyone who knows what's up will know who that is. Okay, all right. This guy doesn't tweet too much. The Swiss division of the QArmy. It is timeline is crowded with QAnon retweets and retweets of people like Paul Joseph Watson and Charlie Kirk. I did notice a whole lot of posts that seem to be suspicious about Greta's hands though.

Some were about the size of her hands, which I'm not sure why that's a conspiracy. Okay. Others were about how she went sailing and her hands weren't sunburnt. It's a very strange. It's a very strange fascination. All right. It reminds me a ton of the obsession that online idiots had after Sandy Hook about earlobes shapes and how earlobes proved that people were crisis actors.

Sure. That was a really huge thing that went around a message board. It's people comparing earlobes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's wild, wild times. People just don't want to step back and look at how much work they're putting into something and maybe if it's a sign that they're wrong. Anyway, the actual thread that this image comes from,

the image that was used as the source for sites like Big League Politics to report that Greta Thunberg has a Soros handler is nuts. This thread is nuts. It starts by saying, quote, a quick look at Greta and her Masonic cabal ancestry. All right. And it includes the hashtag, hashtag QAnon. All right. Okay.

Mysteriously, that first tweet that starts the thread isn't cited by Big League Politics. Oh, it's not? Yeah. Weird. Kind of like they don't want people to know that the source they're basing their news on is a random fucking weirdo QAnon Twitter account. That seems weird. I wonder why they do that.

That seems weird. And I wonder why that's consistent through all of the right wing websites that I found that use this as a source. No, they're serious journalists, right? Why? The right wing is all about serious drought. They hate fake news, right? Yeah, why do you not?

They despise the media that does stuff like, I don't know, hide sources. It's weird that you'd include like, I don't know, tweet number five in a thread when the tweet number one has hashtag QAnon and also this is her Masonic Cabal ancestry. It seems like that's good, proper context for the rest of the thread. You would think. So the thread goes on to accuse her family of being in the Illuminati because some unsourced list of names this guy found includes both Weishaupt and Thunberg. Oh, also it includes Clark Stewart and Jacobs.

All of them? Yeah. I guess if we have any listeners with those last names, congrats. You're now in the Illuminati. Even our streets are in the Illuminati? Yeah. Then the thread gets into a couple pictures of Greta where she has one of her eyes covered and one it's by a shadow and another what appears to be a coin.

In the online conspiracy world, everyone is convinced that anyone who takes a picture with one of their eyes covered is signaling to other Illuminati members that they're part of the group. It's one of the older and stupider elements of conspiracy message board shit. And I'm honestly shocked to see that it's still around and anybody takes it seriously, but you know, there's no accounting for QAnon. I'm fine with that conspiracy theory if we're back in the Polaroid days where it's like pictures have more intent back then when there aren't as many pictures.

Right. Now there's 10 million pictures. I could pull up my phone and scroll once and I could get 10 million photos of me with one of my eyes covered. This was one of those self-fulfilling kind of things because people would have pictures with like one eye covered and then they'd be accused of being in the Illuminati. And then like fashion folks and photographers started doing that almost fucking with people. Exactly.

Yeah. It's nonsense. If you sincerely buy into a lot of this stuff, you got, again, much like the earlobes, you got to check in. Yeah. You got to go talk to somebody. Yeah. Because that's definitely a thing where if I'm famous and somebody's like, oh, he's got

that picture where his eye is covered. He must be in the Illuminati. The next thing I'm doing in one moment is taking a picture with my eye covered. 100%. Instantly. So I have taken multiple pictures of myself intentionally covering my eye. Exactly. For this exact reason.

Yeah. Of course. Yeah. Why wouldn't you do that? This is some like legitimately some of the least credible bullshit I've ever seen. And anybody who takes this as a source has some real serious vetting problems in their operation. Look in your way, big league politics.

But that, you know, they probably call that attacking the messenger. So what about this Louisa Marie Neubauer? What about her? Is she a Soros handler? I don't know. Does she work for big league? Chu? No.

Oh, okay. She's a 23 year old climate activist who apparently has been at protests and events sometimes with Greta Thunberg. And to that I say, so fucking what? They're both involved in the same movement. It makes total sense that they would be compatriots and possibly become friends and work together. As for her working for the one foundation, I found no solid sourcing on that outside of this tweet.

Keanu Reeves. Which got like 5,000 retweets and served as the basis for all of this right wing reporting. I hate these people so much. Yeah. I found Louisa's LinkedIn page and it has been updated recently. So you know, we'll probably assume that most of it's current. Sure. On it, you can find stints of her working at a group called Y7 Climate Delegation, freelancing

for the Huffington Post and some other jobs. If you scroll down far enough, you'll find that she volunteers with an organization called one.org as a youth ambassador. Oh, no. But here's the thing. One.org is not a climate change organization. It's geared at eliminating extreme poverty, particularly in sub-Saharan Africa. Whatever volunteer work she did with one likely has nothing to do with being a climate rally

with Greta, let alone being her handler. It seems completely unrelated. I see no proof that there's any connection. The board of directors at one.org is public and Bono is in there. Former Senator Kelly Iote is in there, but suspicious in his absence. George Soros. George Soros. I didn't even know that and I could say it right there.

One.org has their tax documents available for public review and Luisa is not a paid employee of their organization. I can confirm that. I've reviewed their financial documents and I see no evidence of Soros's heavy hand in the one foundation, which isn't even their name. As the tweet referred to them, though, that it's just one action. It's possible that he donated some money to them. I would say that, sure.

I mean, I could see that, but that doesn't prove he controls the organization is running Luisa as a handler to get Greta to do his bidding. Why is it that so many stories that become accepted fact within the conservative right wing circles are based on one asshole tweeting something that isn't true? Well, because there is so many, there's a tiny wrinkle to this that makes it look more real than what I've described here. This is a lot of the basis of it, but I was able to find one website called Europe Reloaded that has a slightly better bit of evidence.

Wait, so we're talking about one.org and Europe Reloaded. This is all a front for the Wachowsky brothers, right? Or sisters. Wachowsky siblings. Yes. I don't know possibly, but on that website, the author linked a page to a page on the Gates Foundation website about one. In that post.

The Gates of Zion. This is all buzz marketing for Matrix 4. For the next one, yeah. In that post, it says that Soros was one of many people who provided funding to create an organization called data, which was an anti poverty education campaign. Within a few years, this group combined with a number of other groups to eventually create one with the primary funding coming from the Gates Foundation. There's no reason to assume from this or any other information that I can find that

Soros has any involvement other than being an initial funder of an organization that eventually became part of another organization. There's no indication that he had anything to do with one outside of his involvement in data, which literally could have just been him writing a check one time. Though this is better proof than that QAnon Twitter account, this is still completely failing to prove that Soros has anything to do with this organization, nor does it prove that Luisa has been photographed with Greta because she's a handler working through one foundation.

All that is completely unfounded bullshit and it's based on nothing more than an innate hatred of Soros, a couple of out of context photos and an overriding desire to invalidate the words of a 16 year old girl as not being her own. It's an intense showing of weakness to say the least. It's very sad. It is kind of amazing that the right is still sticking on with all these people even after watching them debase themselves so pathetically trying to discredit a 16 year old girl. It is really pathetic.

I think if we learned anything from the last couple of years it's that there's no consequences for behaving like this. You're right. And nothing sticks. Like if it did then Jack Pasobak wouldn't have ever gotten a job anywhere after his pizza gate shit. Yeah. Like you would.

Mike Sernovich wouldn't have a career. Period. Well, I mean maybe like way back and they're like, oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Your name is mud now. You have shown yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it just it doesn't work that way. No, it just doesn't does it.

You debase yourself and then people give you a job because you're slippery. God damn it, Dan. It should be harder than that. It's a bummer. So anyway, my point largely is that there is no evidence to any of this stuff that's being floated around about Greta and Soros. Yeah. If you look into where it comes from nine times out of 10, it's going to be that QAnon

Twitter account. Yeah. And the other times it's going to just be this, it's going to be misrepresentations of one being made up of a bunch of organizations, one of them being data, which Soros gave initial funding to. And that's fucking thin. Yeah. That is thin as shit.

That's nothing. No. But even despite all that, the youth, the youth. What's wrong with them? They know that Greta's a scam. No, they disagree completely. They love Greta. The youth are really into Greta.

Fact. She's a scam. I mean, like she's really cool. She's a scam. She's a scam too. And she's really cool. Scam. Oh, okay.

Never mind. You said it often enough that I know I believe it. Right. And that leads, Alex, talking about other scams. The young people know what the establishment is. They know what the government cheese is. They know Greta Thunberg is a mental patient and everyone is rejecting her, but the very weakest minded people.

So you go to a leptis event and they look like the walking dead and act like the walking dead because these are the pathetic followers. The cannon fodder, the useful idiots, the morons, the smucks, the dupes, the marks, the swabs, the fools, the ignorant idiots, the people that bought the con and keep doubling down on the con forever. Is there a mirror? How many of you know someone who bought into one of those speaker scams at the shopping center?

Don't do it. You've got to sell them. They're really worth 500, but I got to get rid of them. I'm willing to sell them to you for a hundred bucks and you go, that's a scam. They get mad at you. Well, I've been in parking lots twice, just once with some family that's no longer in my family and once with some friends and the person goes, don't listen to him. He says, I want you to do a good deal.

And the person goes, yeah, I'm getting the deal. How many people, you know, bought into the Nigerian scam? I know two people knew it. I knew it was coming. Actually three. One of them was, I knew in business, they wouldn't talk to me after they got ripped off by them. They thought I called the Nigerians and stopped them from giving them the five mil. Why were you in business with this guy who got tricked by the Nigerian scam?

God's name. Also, Alex very clearly got tricked by both the Nigerian scam and he bought some speakers in a parking lot. Oh yeah. So that's good to know. Absolutely. Yeah. So in this next.

Which do you think came first? It's a chicken or the egg situation. I don't know. He probably got taken by the Nigerian scam and was trying to make it up. Right. Parking lots of speakers. Wow. I just lost all this money on that Nigerian thing and now here's this deal in front of

me. I got to take it. Got to get back to eating. Exactly. Yeah. So he's, he stops complaining about Greta for a bit and because it's time to talk to the Donk. And so he's going out to break here and he's talking about the Donald subreddit.

He's going to have Carpe Donkton come in after the break, I believe. And this is weird. I would say that this is something that a fucked up person says. Okay. And we're talking about the death of the Donald subreddit. You know, it's dead. It's gone. But see, it's like these old crazy guys whose wife died.

They don't tell anybody. They got, he's got their skeleton in the bed and still puts lipstick on them. It's kind of like that. They're still folks. It's corpse dolled up in the back and they, you know, they still go in there sometimes on a moonlit night and ignore the smell and climb on top of it. But the Donald subreddit is that dead carcass people have sex with the right backs. They were this.

I'd like to remind you. This is a family show. What is he even trying to say? I'm very lost by that. Okay. So the Donald subreddit. Yes. Is a dead horse.

No. Wife. Dead spouse. Dead spouse. Right. That people have sex with. Uh-huh. Okay.

Now that is an insult or. It's not positive. Right. What is. I don't know. So then. Don't ask me this question. So I can't.

I have no help for you. Okay. So then if it's, if that's what it is though, then it's not hurting anybody. Well, there is that angle. I want to say this very clearly when I was listening to this, I was like, if I were Alex, I would legitimately feel an obligation to immediately when I come back for break, explain what I meant. Yeah.

Absolutely. Because that's so fucked up as a way to go out to break. Yeah. And if that's the sort of metaphor that you come up with when you're trying to describe anything. Right. Right. Kind of implies that that's something that's like, that's on the tip of your mind.

Yeah. A guy who dresses up his wife's corpse to have sex with it still. What? Yeah. Was that, uh, wasn't that the, the theme of Tom Petty's Mary Jane music video? Was that that? I feel like there are other metaphors you could come up with to describe a similar thing. Yeah.

Like Tom Petty's Mary Jane video are keeping around your old cell phone, even though it's dead. I don't know, you know, something like that. I don't think that carries the same imagery with right, but it's not as fucked up. Right. Anyway, Alex comes back from break and he gets to talking about the donk with the donk and boy, this is crazy. They are just talking about, it's exactly as I expected and predicted.

They're just trying to talk shit about the Donald, right? Mostly Alex. Because the doctor is still being a little bit diplomatic, but Alex is just trying to drive traffic exclusively over to Carpe Donkton's shit. Right. His way to do it is to completely lie about Reddit. That helps. And that's a Chinese company that gave the Donald owner Reddit all this money in February,

millions of dollars. So you wonder what's going on? The chai comms are in our elections. It's election meddling. Ten cent. Nice. Internet based technology and cultural enterprise, Chinese censorship in America. Run by the Chinese government.

They run all their media systems. And they're here. They don't just own Hollywood. So joining us is Carpe Donkton from Meme World. Again, the president loves this information, puts it out. And I just don't know why we're going to allow the chai comms to come do this, but it's already happened. But I'm not trying to toot my horn, but did I not tell you months ago this is how this

is going to play out? And you agreed, but you had to wait and see. You're so polite. You didn't even want to warn people, hey, come over to Meme World. And then now it's kind of like, is it all right for us to say Meme World? Will we make the Donald lords, the chai comms that own it mad? I say screw the chai comms, screw them and screw the Donald. The dictator of China now runs Reddit.

Go ahead. I agree. That's his intro. Good work. Good work. He's really nailing these intros that are impossible to respond to. Man, I really, it is really fun to yell at people that don't exist, isn't it? Carpe Donkton.

No, the Chinese. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The chai comms who own. Reddit. Donald. Reddit. Man, you get real excited. Yeah.

You're like, ah, I hate them. Yeah. Well, I mean, there's a little bit of truth behind this, but it's also a big lie. So in February of this year, the Chinese tech company Tencent invested 150 million dollars in Reddit. And of course that means that they've taken over Reddit and banned any Trump positive content. Of course, there's a problem and that is that the quarantining of the Donald didn't happen

until four months later. And Reddit was super clear that it was because people on the Donald were constantly posting content that was explicitly advocating for violence, but forget about that. Forget about it. That's nonsense and bullshit and spin. It was 150 million dollars in investment from a Chinese company that is dead set to destroy memes and destroy Trump. That's what happened here.

All right. I'm now, I'm not hugely versed on business, but how much is Reddit worth? I'm glad you asked. 150 million dollars definitely sounds like a lot of money, but considered for a second here that the most recent evaluation of Reddit placed the site as being worth $3 billion. Okay. So if this involvement, even this investment even involves any kind of control over company decisions, buying in for 150 million dollars would be approximately a 5% ownership of

the company, which is nowhere near enough to unilaterally direct their actions. They have done studies though that show that only 5% of the electorate needs to be sufficiently motivated in order to instigate great change over time. Sure. There we go. 3% did the revolution. I don't give a shit. Also, the dumb dumb Alex Jones spin on this fails to explain that in the same round of

funding we're 10 cent bought in, Reddit also received an additional 150 million dollars in investments from firms like Sequoia and Fidelity and the rapper Snoop Dogg. He also doesn't bring up that the majority shareholder in Reddit is Advanced Publications and they have been for a long time. Advanced Publications is the parent company of Condonast who bought Reddit in 2006, though in 2011 Reddit just became a subsidiary of Advanced Publications. The whole time that Alex has loved and praised Reddit, the entire time that Donald was spreading its toxic shit, their parent company was the same company that owned the New Yorker, Vanity

Fair, GQ Teen Vogue and Wired. For real, Advanced Publications is a gigantic media conglomerate. They own tons of local papers around the country, from Michigan to Alabama to New Jersey. They own Pitchfork, which recently gave Lana Del Rey's new album a 9.4. Alex agrees with that. Get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here. They're still the majority shareholder.

That wasn't changed at all by 10 cent making an investment in Reddit. That's how children think the way Alex is approaching this. Increasing absurdly oversimplified lines of causation where they don't exist. Anything to dodge taking responsibility for creating an environment where tons of users felt totally comfortable promoting violence, I guess. It's probably all that's going on here. Yeah. Yeah.

Every time you explain... No, it's the Chinese. Every time you explain corporations and what they own and how interconnected it all is, you're like, oh yeah, that's right. Capitalism is super bad. No. No, I don't want any of this. So you're saying that one group also owns this group, but that group owns a subset of

other groups that are their own independent thing all under the umbrella of this group over here. And that group is... I regret to inform you there is a lot of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Capitalism is bad. Yeah. So Alex can go fly a kite with this Chinese bought Reddit bullshit.

No shit. So stupid. And the fact that happened in February and four months later, the quarantine happened. You can't trace a causal link between that. If it happened immediately after, you still couldn't, but you could make a better argument. Ah, no, disagree. The four months makes it even more obvious that it was them because only a smart company would make them wait four months to make the change.

A stupid company would do it right away. Then it's too obvious. My reasoning has been trumped. So Alex, his message largely is that they're trying to get rid of memeing by getting rid of the Donald. Right. Memes are just cave paintings. Yeah.

They're just a basic form of communication. So he gives this browsing speech about how no, no, no, no, no, no, we're going to keep on memeing. Sure. And again, you're a trooper. You do a great job. You've helped get a lot of people over to beamworld.com so they can keep operating. But I know the inside baseball is folks are telling you, Hey, you shouldn't even have

meme world. You know, just stick with the Donald or do something with us. You just control freaks who don't want to actually produce anything. They just want to tell us what to do. Well, guess what? We're going to keep fighting. We're going to keep making memes and we're going to keep posting them like some micros doing.

September is almost over. Got cut off by the break. You hear that? We're going to keep doing it at and then you didn't even get to plug meme world, man. He didn't even get to very sad, very sad. He is, he is losing all those chops. Yeah. So he comes, he gets cut off by that break after that rousing, brave heart of me.

Hell yeah. It comes back listening to some real classic jams. I'm going to find me a reckless woman, raise her blades and die center high. Just a touch of sadness in her fingers. Just a touch of sadness in her fingers. Thunder and lightning in her thighs. Thunder and lightning in her thighs. I wonder what he's talking about right there.

This is a family show. What? This is a family show. Did he just say it's dunked him still on hold? That's a family show where we speculate about what thunder and lightning in her thighs means in my women's silver stallion. Hold on, but he's not done. Waging war on corruption.

It's Alex Jones. And we're going to ride. We're going to ride. We're going to ride. Ride like the one-eyed jagged diver. Ride like the one-eyed jack of diamonds with the devil close to high. We're going to ride. That's not your one-eyed.

That's the one-eyed. All right. Okay. We got the one-eyed. That is a relief. Yeah. For me that the Alex and the highwaymen weren't talking about the all-seeing eye of the Illuminati.

It had me worried there for like a little bit. I was really kind of concerned that maybe this is an Illuminati show. I mean, we did learn that Alex's dad may or may not be a lifelong globalist. Right. Well, the second time they asked, we don't know what happened. Right. We know he said no the first time. It's heavily implied.

He said yes the second time. I guess. But it rests easy now knowing that instead they were talking about the Norse god Odin. This would probably come off as quirky bullshit where Alex is just trying to flex his completely surface level knowledge about some arcane subject to impress his audience into thinking he's a religious studies scholar. And honestly, that is probably what's going on if I'm going to be completely honest. However, I should point out that increasingly the religion of choice among white supremacists

is centered around Norse gods and is often called Odinism. According to a 2017 report from Public Radio International, there were at least six cases where white supremacists who identified as Odinists were convicted of domestic terror attacks or attempted domestic terror attacks since 2001. In his trial, Anders Brevik announced that he was a longtime Odinist, which brought a whole lot of attention to the ideology from really fucked up white identity communities. Fun fact, Anders Brevik named his rifle after Odin's spear, his handgun after Thor's hammer and his car after Odin's horse.

Anyway, my point here isn't that Alex is talking about Odin because he's an Odinist. I'm saying that Alex Jones runs a completely explicitly white identity focused radio show where one of his regular guests is a guy who reveres Anders Brevik, which is sort of the place where you might find references to Odin's suspicious. In other contexts, this comes off as like a little bit of trivia. In this context, it kind of sounds like it might be a knowing wink, but it's probably just Alex being a blowhard. Honestly, I don't think that he's signaling to this community, but it doesn't look great.

Well, what I hear is that the highwaymen are all white nationalists. Totally. That's what I got out of that. You see Chris Christofferson's beard? White. Are we talking Blade One or Blade Three Chris Christofferson? I feel like he's had a white beard since 1963. What was that? The old man who fell in love with the sea or whatever it is? Something.

Yeah. I don't know. I bring that up only to be like, it's suspicious only because of the show that Alex does. It's a completely innocuous thing to point out. Like, hey, there is one eye in the ideology that I don't like, but there's also one eye is elsewhere. It's completely innocuous, but Alex has to understand that he runs a show that is very in line with a lot of white supremacist white identity ideas.

He has a guest, Vox Day, who really loves Anders Brevik, who is a longtime Odinist and put the religion ideology on the map in many ways. It's just bad optics. Yeah, but also. I say as him talking about one eye, funny that it's optics. Get the fuck out. I shall. Okay.

Yeah. I mean, he hates Paganists though. He might not hate them as much as you think. Yeah. Well, that's fair. You might just call it Christianity. That's actually a really good point. Yeah.

So Alex gets back to talking about how Reddit's owned by the Chinese. And I only play this clip here because it's sort of similar to things he's already said, but it's important because you need to nail down like what he's really trying to say. Let me announce this the best way I can. Did you know that a communist Chinese controlled tech company invested millions of dollars in February of this year in Reddit? And within just a month, the site was frozen and put in quarantine and now has essentially been shut down.

He's lying about the timeline. He's lying about the investment. He's doing that in order to try and get any remnant that he has of that sort of Mimi crowd to move over to Carpe Donkton's stuff because Alex is associated with Carpe Donkton and that makes him have more adjacency to where this meme stuff would be happening. Is there any like direct connection between the two? I'm unaware of it, if there is. He comes on the show more than makes sense.

But I don't think he's an employee or anything. No, but I mean, Alex has hit meme world like really hard to the point where I'm like, is he hosting meme world? Does he have it? No, not that I can tell. I think it's just a case of like this would really help promoting. It would really be a good advertising avenue for me. If it's under the control of someone who is associated with me, that works better than

this dying subreddit. So I think he just wants to get those millions over there and it's not going to happen, but it's pretty transparent. In the words of Jimmy James, that's free advertising and that's something you just can't buy. Exactly. And one of the reasons that I think this is never going to work out is very well encapsulated by this next clip where Carpe Donkton starts talking about who's creating content for meme world.

Oh, no. This is a wild list. memeworld.com, the great Ben Garrison's there. Some of the other amazing people are there on the site. Tell us about some people that are on meme world and let's get back into this and what's happened. I'll kind of shut up so you can have a floor. We have, as you said, Ben Garrison.

I've talked with the great Mark Dice. The great. You know, he's agreed to put some kind of exclusive content up from time to time. I have myself, I'm on there as well. Mad Liberals, he visited the Oval Office with me. I invited him along. He is on there. We've got a brick suit.

He's sort of a famous figure at Trump rallies. He always wears the wall suit when he goes there. If you are listing people and like four deep, you've got the guy who wears a wall suit to Trump rallies. He's famous. Oh boy. You have got all the next New York times. All I hear is the fucking Avengers.

That is what I hear. Of New York's greatest superheroes coming together to put meme world on the map, baby. Ben Garrison, Mark Dice. That one guy, some other guy liberal and the guy who wears a fucking wall suit. Awesome. I was listening to that. I like this can't be promoting the site. This sounds sad.

Yeah. This is great. At least learn the guy's name. No, you don't want to use real names. Fair. Fair. Fair. I apologize.

So not too long ago, we heard Alex talking about how he wasn't going to exist any year. Info wars was going to be done any year 365 days. Countdown. And I'm pretty glad that we approached that with some caution. You know, I don't, I think that we thought that there was a possibility that he was talking about real stuff, but more likely it was bullshit. Yeah. So the guy who was talking about his sales right here in this next clip leads me to believe

that it was probably bullshit. So it's a win-win-win, but I did get myself in a position where we sell at such small margins and people wait for sales that it's putting me into a pickle. So the plan is next year we're not going to do, but 40% off is our best sales and the prices are going to say the same, but I just can't do it anymore. So he's talking about the sales that they'll have next year, which implies that they'll be around next year and that they will have product to sell next year. Also, I don't know how good an idea this is to be like, we're going to be around, but

hey, our sales are not going to be as good. I'm just going to let you know next year, you're going to pay more for this. Prices are going up. They're going up. Yeah. I fucked up by selling stuff too cheap. Yep. That seems unsustainable as a approach.

Yeah. That one's not good. No. That one's not good. Next clip. Alex yells a bit at Carpe Doctin about how he's lucky that the Chinese haven't killed him yet. That is good because I think we're all lucky that the Chinese haven't killed us yet.

Sure. Right? Yeah. Why not? The chai comms get what they pay for. 150 mil bought the Reddit. The news all spun it. The chai, the Chinese government bought the Reddit and they're saying, you don't have

Trump on that. There we go. We're on your country. You're dead. I mean, they kill people in mass over there. It was out in the news this week. So you're lucky from the Reddit's owners, Gigi Ping, that you're not dead, son. But it's true.

I mean, they did buy. It's no coincidence that within a month or so of their investment that suddenly a sub that has been under attack for four years suddenly just gets quarantined. So Carpe Donkton has every reason to know that this timeline isn't true. He absolutely, he is someone who's involved in the Donald. Yeah. He posed. That's why anyone knows who he is because of that sub Reddit.

He has every reason to know when the investment happened and compare it to when the quarantine came around. He knows that it wasn't within a month. He's just parroting back Alex's talking points because it makes a better argument and that's not true. They are lying. Anyway, that's the only reason I played that clip. I thought it was to show that Carpe Donkton is an incredible orator who has a just riveting

speech pattern. I mean, he's so good that he's decided to make memes. Yeah. Alex now descends into yelling about the Chinese a bunch. It turns out he's made another Asian dragon video and we're not going to play that one. I'm not going to just keep playing whenever he has. I assume has another day gone by. Yeah.

There's a new one of him doing a defensive character. Is that our new, that's the new like you've got a face for radio. Is it, you've got a voice for memes. You've got a talent level for memes. So here's Alex complaining a bit about the Chinese. But when you read the Washington Post, pull that up please. She must crush Trump to save America as a headline. So this is a big headline that he repeats all the time.

And I know that it's not true. So I haven't really gone into it, but I've just decided what the fuck. Let's talk about it. So this is a headline for the Washington Post and Alex wants the headline to be quote, she must crush Trump because Alex wants the perception to be that the mainstream media is begging a foreign leader to destroy Trump. Right. This serves as market strategy of maligning all non info wars adjacent media.

And you know, it works. However, the actual headline is quote, she's choice. Destroy Trump or save him and weaken America. This was not a news article. It was in the opinion section, which naturally is where Alex takes most of his headlines that he pretends are news articles. You know, just go to the opinion section, find something that sounds weird, yell about it. Yeah.

The industry of opinion sections is entirely about making a click baby claim. Then the other side going, blah, blah, blah. And then you writing another opinion. And Alex's role in that is on its own, a brazen act of manipulation or a sign that Alex legitimately doesn't understand the difference between journalism and commentary. And I would say that either is totally possible. Probably both. It could be.

The editorial in question is making the argument that she needs to learn how to use soft power if he's going to maximize maximize his success as a world leader. Note a leader, not the leader. That's important. It runs through how dealing with India, internal descent and Hong Kong are all examples that make his leadership style not one that makes China really qualified to be a government that the world looks on with much esteem. And that's probably a fair point.

The stuff about Trump is towards the end of the editorial. And honestly, I think the headline is a bit poorly chosen to reflect the actual article itself. What? The argument here is that she is holding all the cards as it relates to Trump. The only move Trump realistically has or has even tried in terms of their relation is threatening a trade war. And Xi doesn't really care about that nearly as much as Trump does. From the article, quote, the Chinese people, 60 percent of whom spend less than $10 a day

are far more accustomed to economic pain than Trump's Americans. And they have no meaningful right to vote. So Xi can probably afford to absorb some economic pain necessary to push the trade war past election day. It's all presented as the choice between soft and hard power. The hard power route would be to crush Trump and force his hand with a trade war that would likely lead to a recession and diminish Trump's chances of being reelected. The soft power route is to make some token concessions that Trump can parade around and act like

he's a master negotiator for getting. And as the article says, quote, graciously spring Trump from the trap he's stepped in. This would ultimately weaken our ability to negotiate further but gives Trump an artificial option. Hence save Trump and weaken America. The editorial is not a call for Xi to crush Trump. And you'd only think that if you hadn't read the article or you have and you know your audience isn't going to either way.

Alex is just completely lying about this shit in order to malign the Washington Post and his mainstream media rivals. But yeah, you know, I really love the people who write headlines. I'm a huge fan of a huge fan of all the really, really accurate headlines we talk about all the time. Yeah, it's trouble. It's trouble. But honestly, like the problem solves itself if people just read, like if they read the

articles, the problem of bad headlines kind of solves itself. Now granted, that's a state of affairs that'll probably never materialize. So it's still a problem. It's a problem. Anyway, Alex gets to screaming about how like the world is madness and no one cares that the Chinese bought Reddit. I mean, we got other shit going on man. To be fair, no one cares that the Chinese bought Reddit because they didn't.

They didn't. But even if they had man, but that's you know, no one you're you're mad that no one cares but no one cares because the thing didn't happen. Right. So stop being so fucking mad. And then Alex turns heel on the American people. Okay, take that. It is.

It's done. We kill babies after they're born. Nobody cares. The Chinese government bought Reddit. That's old news. No, it's like, oh, so what? Everyone loves it because we have emasculated men. We have a country of little bitches and grovelers and ass kissers.

You go out in public and you look at the average American, you're talking about weak, pathetic people, stupid, dumb devil worshipers. Yeah, that's the truth. I thought you loved America. What are you doing? I mean, well, this is a family show. Right. The normal Americans are devil worshipers.

Stupid. Yeah. Unmasculine, pathetic cowards. Right. This is this is not what you like. This doesn't seem like a guy who likes America much. Um, you know, it sure has seemed like that for the entire time that we've been talking about him.

Yeah. He really doesn't like that whole America that is. No. He really, really hates that constitution. Despises it. Right. But he really loves the one that's in his head that he would like to impose upon everybody else without their permission.

That is very quite. Yeah. So he loves America, asterisk, the one in his brain that nobody else is aware of. Yeah. So you might have noticed that a lot of this show has been about climate change and yelling about Greta Thunberg. Yes. Now that.

With a little dunk in the, in the way. Right. Which was a good diversion. But now we need to get back to the pressing issue of climate change. Sure. And in order to do that, Alex is like, Greta doesn't know what the fuck she's talking about, but I know a guy who does. Oh no.

Christopher Moncton is the leading expert. I would say everybody out there, even Mark Moreno, who's advised Congress, of course, on the fraud of the carbon tax and all of it. And they're screeching and squawking and abuse of the children and trying to tell them the world's ending. So we got Lord Moncton coming in. We're not going to listen to much of him because I can't stand that fucking dude. Cause, cause I still have some hair left and you would prefer not to watch me rip it out

in front of you. But I did like that he's like Lord Moncton knows more than Mark Moreno. I'm like, that's going to piss off Jordan. Why? I mean, not because he's putting him over Mark Moreno, but just cause his name came up. Oh, just, I was like, I thought you were talking about the comparison. I was going to be like, Moreno's my asshole. He's the one who knows.

Any reference would piss you off. Yeah. So the reason that Alex has Moncton on is because I guess Lord Moncton has branded himself a Greta Thunberg expert. Alex has it multiple times. All right. And he does not seem to be an expert. He just seems like a dick.

But before their interview gets going, Alex has some breaking news. Now we had you on today. Very well said Lord Moncton to get into Greta Thunberg who you're quite the expert on. This is breaking news on info wars.com Greta parents reported the child services in Sweden this morning. So that's going on. Early today, a private person posted pictures of her concern about Greta Thunberg for child abuse and the parents.

The report was allegedly sent out of the district administrator of Stockholm and is being taken very seriously. I'd say she has Stockholm syndrome. Nice. Name for Stockholm, Europe. Nice. So info wars has this breaking news article about Greta's parents being reported anonymously for child abuse.

Right. And I was able to find that article on info wars.com. I'm going to give you a couple of clues who the source is on this. And you cannot guess until I read all three clues. Okay. Okay. Okay. First clue.

Two. There are too many of those. We've got more than one. Two. He invented a fake religion around the Matrix movies. We've got more than one. Three. He's been recognized as Jesus Christ by both the Jews and the Vatican.

Okay. Well, then in that case, I know who it is. That's Leo Zagami. That's Leo Zagami. Alex is peddling complete bullshit from Leo Zagami as something that's real all in the name of smearing and delegitimizing this teenager. All while he's getting ready to interview a 67 year old fraud who pretends to be a member of the House of Lords.

This is some shameful shit. This is a, again, much like that. Hey, we're going to do Black Friday sale too much early. Yeah. You can't parody this. You can't make it up. He's, he's about to interview Lord Moncton to complain about Greta Thunberg and he is breaking news from Leo fucking Zagami.

Yep. Like what are you going to do? That's a mad live. I don't know. I don't know, man. We're, we're past that. We're past the looking glass and Alice is now looking at us going like, we're the fucking black.

Did you guys go? It's a full court press against Greta and all I can hear is that these dudes are super afraid of her. Oh, they're terrified of a 16 year old girl. That's legitimately all I hear. So we get to the end of it and Alex doesn't, the 24th and Alex doesn't really talk in any substantial way about Trump saying that, you know, the globalist Patriots thing at the UN, um, he's deflected a little bit in other episodes about Ukraine stuff and like

guys just bullshit, uh, but not the newer development. Yeah. Yeah. I don't, I just was listening to this. So like that was an unsubstantial show. He got the memo that he needs to talk about Greta Thunberg, so he corrected his climate coverage from the 23rd by bringing her into the conversation. And then he's yelled with the Carpe Doctin about the Chinese buying Reddit.

It's a very weird show. I was like, that is unsatisfying for anyone. Yeah. If you're expecting to hear Alex's take on these big news items, right? He did not get it on the 24th. No. Right. So there you go.

Monkton. Yeah. Zagami. Donk. Yep. Yep. The, the three horsemen of the fuckpocalypse. And of course the guy who wears a wall suit, who is really good.

So we get to the 25th and Alex does get into, uh, touching on the situation with the Ukraine for every action is an equal and opposite reaction. We have a new giant hoax with the total proof, with the declassified transcript of the phone call that President Trump did not offer pro quo, quo, or someone, something so you get something back. Yes. I want you to buy us weapons and do us a favor in the 30 minute conversation. And later he says, man, I heard about Biden and how he brags on television that he ordered

them not to investigate his son or he'd take a billion dollars away. That was the crime at the CFR. We're going to play a clip of that in a moment. We'll get into the specific of this a little bit later, but, uh, just so you know, Alex is going hoax on this one. Fuck off. Alex is the very person who we first, uh, when in 2015, when he's saying he's mobbed up.

Yeah. He's mobbed up. Yeah. Alex, you know, full fucking well, what a mobbed up person talks like when they are extorting somebody and it's like what he talked like. It's how that memo of transcript sound. It's exactly how it's right. Alex should have trusted his first instance on Trump.

What a weird, what a weird alternate timeline. Yeah. So we'll get back to that. Like I said, and in much greater depth as this episode goes along, but Jordan, this next clip is what I texted you about. Yes. I texted you last night and I told you I found perhaps the most fucked up clip that I've ever heard on this show.

Many pirates is definitely in the run. That's up there. The one where he talked about being on RT and then it being intelligence people who are like trying to ask him, wow, do you work for the government? Yeah, that was pretty wild. That was weird. That was weird. Uh, but this one is definitely up there.

Mike down for this. Okay. Because this is crazy. This is only the third president that they've actually started impeachment process on. You've got what? Clinton. Davis. You've got, uh, Clinton and then you've got Trump.

That is mind blowing. That they, so Jordan, look, there are red flags and then there are red flags. When a supposed scholar on US history thinks that the three presidents who have been impeached or had proceedings opened up on them are Clinton, Trump and Jefferson Davis. You have a real severe problem on your hands. Like for one, the list is actually Andrew Johnson and then Bill Clinton for those who have been impeached for two. Even that list is leaving off James Buchanan who had an inquiry open, but was never impeached.

But most importantly, Jefferson Davis was not a president of the United States. He was the president of the Confederacy. Yes, but no one has ever been impeached quite as hard as Jefferson Davis was. You know what I mean? Well, like there's impeachment and then there's destroying a country impeachment. You know what I mean? Like he got impeached to the wall. Like very well might be the biggest Freudian slip I've ever fucking heard of my life.

Oh shit. That is insane. That is bananas. Cause that means to me, first of all, that Alex compartmentalizes Jefferson Davis in the same part of his brain as US presidents, which is not, not good. Nope. Same spot. Same little box.

Also, it means he's really fucking stupid because he forgot about Nixon. I understand. Nixon wasn't impeached. Yes, he was. Well, they started. They started the proceedings. The inquiries. Oh, is that what he's?

Yeah. He's not talking about the actual. No, no. Nixon had the articles of impeachment brought to the house that's that that still qualifies on the list of bringing proceedings, but the point is like that. These are big things that he should remember. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And he does not. He thinks of Jefferson Davis. Considering the time when Andrew Johnson, Andrew Johnson and Jefferson Davis were contemporaries. So it kind of seems, it kind of seems obvious which one he, Jesus Christ, the, oh my God, he thinks that the, he thinks that America during the time of Jefferson Davis was an illegitimate America and that shouldn't count in our fucking history. Yeah.

Jefferson Davis, just the president of the Confederacy. Yeah. I think Alex is. I would say he was. I will give him this. He was the best president that the Confederacy ever had. That is true. He was the only one.

Well, you know what? He was also the worst, but he was really good. And I want to, I want to play this. I want to play you this clip just to show you that he doesn't correct himself because you would think if he said that he would then be like, I fucked up. Yeah. I completely fucked up. He does not.

You've got what? Davis, you've got Clinton and then you've got Trump. So the proceedings have been started. Will it ever get to a full vote in the house? Probably not now, but the next round, they're just getting everybody used to this right now. Now Trump's approval rating went up when he did this. So he doesn't seem to even recognize that he said that Jefferson Davis was the president

of the United States who got impeached, which is really fucking troubling. It was really fun. It fucked me up because originally I thought it was going to be that he was going to say that he meant Thomas Jefferson and that he was even dumber than possible, but never in my wildest dreams would I have come up with Jefferson Davis. And now in retrospect, it seems so obvious. Yeah. According to 538, Trump's numbers did appear to make a little tick upwards in the recent

days, but he's still looking at a net 10 negative approval rating, which is not ideal. I don't. But I just want to say that Alex is right. His numbers did go up. Right. No, I understand. I think in the larger context, though, that is not just not something that I don't care about, but something that is actively harmful if you care.

If you care about his fucking approval ratings in the context of a criminal trial, you're, I don't care whether or not the fucking jury likes the defendant. The problem is the crime. Yeah. You're, you're not judging based on whether or not he's, you approve of the job that the guy did. Right. You're judging based on whether or not he committed the fucking crimes seems that way, but Alex

doesn't think so. That's a setup, man. He already said it was a hoax and here's why that hoax is happening. The deep state is making its move right now against our free society. This is a major quickening and you saw that incredible speech at the United Nations yesterday by the president. We're going to be going over today. That's why the system's coming after him because multinational corporations got control

of the U.S. and parlayed our military and economic power into building their corporate world government. So it's retaliation. This is all just retaliation for Trump's speech, which doesn't make sense since the stuff started to come out before the speech. And Alex didn't seem to care much about that speech yesterday, but he's, I guess he's seen it by now. Right.

So now he's aware of it. Right. Right. But what about how Trump released the memo himself, though? That wasn't the deep state. No. He wants to release this memo. Wow.

The one that clearly shows him committing a crime. Certainly heavily implies it. Why? Why? How is that the deep state though? Well, because the deep state, um, I don't know. Okay. I don't know.

But actually Alex does have a theory about the memo and, uh, well, we'll get to it in a little bit. Okay. Um, but before we get to that, Alex, um, so recently there was a bit of news about people, uh, a warning that, uh, there might be a shooting at the premiere of the Joker movie. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

The, uh, the Aurora theater would not show it if I recall correctly. I will not. I wouldn't be surprised though. It was a case. I didn't see that, but that wouldn't surprise me too much. Um, Alex believes that this is the globalist signaling that they're going to do a false flag, uh, at this, uh, this, this, uh, movie. And he talks about this a little bit and he does something really interesting that I think

is worth pointing out. You've got a president in with a beachhead who's getting the economy back, getting the love of the nation back, stabilizing things. And they are desperate to crash the economy openly and desperate to start a civil war. And now the Pentagon issues an emergency alert going up on info wars.com right now that they believe incel antifa is going to do mass shootings at theaters and that Joker is designed to do it. Of course it is.

So that's, uh, his take on it in cell antifa. I didn't know that they were, uh, cross pollinating these families. So I know one of them is a, uh, non-existent, loosely affiliated group of people that are demonized by the right. And then the other one is a bunch of racist fuckwits. Uh, you're going to get shot by an incel. Oh no. So obviously I hope there are never, ever shootings anywhere.

That said, I particularly hope that there aren't any shootings at any screenings of the Joker because if there are, Alex is going to lose it and declare himself a prophet. The army did release a warning to service people that they had picked up chatter from the dark web about, uh, shooting and, uh, screening of the Joker relating to incel communities. A spokesman who spoke to gizmodo said that these sorts of alerts are a pretty common thing and that it was basically just an email that got sent out, not any kind of dire warning or any specific threat that anyone could take action on. They just advised vigilance.

There's nothing in that army's email or the FBI statement on the dark web chatter that would lead anyone to believe that this has anything to do with anti fascists. This is specifically about incel groups, but what Alex is doing is he's trying to comp and make a compound epithet in order to associate incels with Antifa in his audience's mind. He does this regularly in order to demonize groups that he's opposed to most notably with his attempts to make the LGBTQ P thing, uh, work, you know, trying to reflect his completely erroneous claim that the LGBTQ community had adopted pedophilia into their ranks. This is the level of shit that Alex is working with these days.

Trying to create epithets, uh, to demonize groups just linguistically. It's, it's really pathetic. It's, it's, it's a sign of not really having much gas left in the tank. Right. I, I'm, I'm just confused as to why he thinks that would be a good idea considering incel, the incel community, uh, would care far more than the quote on Antifa, uh, cause at this point, like anybody who gives a shit is going to give a shit about what the right wing says about Antifa.

Uh, but the incels are far more likely to support Alex. They're on his team. There might be some of them in, uh, the Donald, you know, there's some, they, there's so many inset that that community is like for him. Why is he maligning them? Maybe because they would be maligned by being compared to, or, uh, you know, because Alex couldn't handle having them as his fans. They're not masculine enough.

Right. You know, they, they don't, they don't ascribe to his ideas about virility and the need to reproduce, being so central to what he wants his people to be. Yeah. Now that you say that, I can see that he doesn't give a fuck about alienating them. Um, but it's still just dumb. This is all stupid. So Alex finally after, I don't know, I would say probably about a half hour or so realizes

that he said that Jefferson Davis was president of the United States and he comes back to that fourth impeachment in US history. Technically two people have been impeached. Two others have had proceedings began against them and that fourth one is Trump. So we're going to be looking at all of that. Andrew Johnson, Bill Clinton and others. I said Jeff Davis for some reason. That's the Confederate president for some reason.

I'm teleprompter free folks. So sometimes it comes out wrong, but not on purpose. He said it for some reason, for some reason, for some reason, for some reason, that's hilarious, that he would even say not on purpose, for some reason, not on purpose. That's worse. I didn't mean to tell you what's going on in my brain and that's all Confederate shit. I didn't mean to do that whatsoever. That's worse.

That was not on purpose. It was a completely muscle memory reaction that I deeply internalized the president of the Confederacy as being part of the lineage of the United States presidents. Alex, oh boy, Alex, that is great. So I promised you we would get to Alex's take on the memo. The whole Ukraine situation. What do we got? It's not good.

You know, Trump set the Democrats up, right? Sure. Now Trump wants the whistleblower to testify before Congress. It'll all be an excuse to bring out Joe Biden publicly saying he committed massive crimes. Cool. Four billion dollar company turned over to his son. Millions paid to his son, but that's nothing. The shareholders transferred partial ownership to a new board of directors with top Democrats

sitting on the board. And so, oh, this whistleblower puts in the complaint. Then the head of national intelligence says that's not a legitimate complaint. Nothing long was done. Democrats go crazy. Trump says, I'm not going to release it. Please don't throw me in the briar patch. They throw briar rabbit who lives in the briar patch in to the briar patch.

This is not level four chess. This is just the ways you set people up. What a shock that the reference that he comes up with to describe the situation is from the song of the south. Now, generally, I would give it a pass. I would say like maybe he went to Splash Mountain or something like that, but he just said that Jefferson Davis was a president of the United States. And I've heard David Knight talk at length about his fondness for song of the south. So I have some questions.

Really? Yeah. Oh boy, that's not good. No, it's boring and offensive. Well, you know, after work, they both go see a minstrel show every night. So, you know, song of the south is not racist. Jesus Christ. Thanks, David.

So Alex's conspiracy theory here is that Trump was playing games trying to get this whistleblower to testify, which had opened the door to talk about the Biden family's involvement in Ukraine and Joe Biden's involvement in the firing of Ukraine's former chief prosecutor, Victor Shokin. The main problem with this theory is that all that information is already very public. James Rice and wrote a story about Joe's son, Hunter, being involved in a sketchy business in Ukraine in 2015 in the New York Times. And in May 2019, right-wing sites were already aggressively circulating the accusation that Joe had gotten the prosecutor fired in order to bail out Hunter, who was involved in a sketchy business in Ukraine. The idea that Trump needs a whistleblower to testify in order to get this information into the open is fucking absurd. It just makes no sense.

Alex's main piece of evidence that he plays to back up this claim that this is secretly all about Biden is a clip of Biden saying that he threatened to withhold a billion dollars in aid if they didn't fire Shokin. And that is a real clip. However, what's missing is context. Here are the parts of the story that are true. Joe Biden did work to get Victor Shokin fired and Hunter Biden was involved in a sketchy business in Ukraine. The rest of this is a right-wing narrative that is completely fabricated. Joe Biden is many things, most of them not good, but in this case, anti-corruption experts agree that he was in the right to threaten to withhold aid unless Shokin was fired. Since Shokin was deeply corrupt and was using his office to stall and avert prosecution on very serious cases.

One of the big prosecutions that Shokin was stymying was that of Nikola Zoshevsky, who ran Ukraine's biggest independent gas company, Burisma. This was a bit of a mess since Zoshevsky was also Yanukovych's environment and natural resource minister, which you can imagine could introduce some prime opportunities for corrupt dealings. Wait, so he's the head of the energy conglomerate there as well as the guy in charge of the environment? And natural resources. Man, that is crazy. What kind of ridiculous backwards-ass country would ask their fucking regulator to be regulated by that? That's be crazy. That'd be fucking, what idiots. So Shokin would not investigate or prosecute cases like that, which is what Biden demanded in exchange for the delivery of this aid.

So now the story in the right wing media is that Biden got Shokin fired in order to protect his son Hunter, who, like I may have mentioned, was involved in a sketchy business in Ukraine. I should probably tell you that the sketchy business in Ukraine that Joe's son was involved in was none other than Burisma, the very company that Joe was insisting Shokin be fired for not investigated. The narrative completely falls apart when you realize the actual pieces that were in play and the factors that were involved. Now, many people have theorized that Burisma's hiring of Joe Hunter Biden might have been an attempt to shield the company from possible anti-corruption crackdowns, but there's no evidence that that's how things played out in the real world. So to sum things up, I'll quote from an article in The Intercept, again, written by Ryzen, where he interviewed Daria Kalunnik, who is the founder of Ukraine's anti-corruption action center. Quote, what I'm pissed off about is that Shokin, who is totally corrupt, who undermined the reform of prosecution and reformers and who didn't want to investigate Zoshevsky, now appears in this New York Times article as the hero who wanted to investigate Zoshevsky and Burisma and who suffered because Joe Biden demanded to dismiss him because of his willingness to investigate Burisma, which is absolute nonsense. Trump absolutely did not set up Democrats or Biden.

And if I had any faith left in the process, I would say he's in very serious trouble. And this weak shit is the only spin that they have left because you got you got a lot of really bad looking variables. But I've been, you know, we've done this too many times over the course of the last two years for me to be like, haha. Now, anytime, anytime somebody, I'm done with people who are like, this would take down any normal president. And it's like, no, this would take down a president. This cannot take down the fucking criminal terrorist enterprise that the GOP has turned into. The president has nothing to do with how corrupt and all, well, they're fucking, well, I mean, yeah, but he's just the he's just the manifestation of all of the depths to which the GOP has has fallen. So I've read what's amazing about this is that for the first time, I think this one in particular, what's changed for me is I think there are at least a few very smart people in the GOP power structure who read that transcript and heard that memo and did the whole thing.

And we're like, Oh, no, we tricked ourselves. Fuck. Now we believe the shit. Fox News says, no, we were using that to trick the dumb, poor people. Now we're believing it. I, yeah, yeah, it's he thinks that Biden he believes in this shit. It's a bridge too far. I think for I hope I hope I don't know.

I don't have I don't have a whole lot of faith left. I have some flicker sliver of it. But I hope that it's enough to like really jostle out of like believing the bullshit line. I really hope it is because it's pretty clear some of the factors that are in play here from the reporting that has come out about and the whistleblower report just got released. Yeah, I read that. I read that as well. And there, you know, what's in there. It matches up with reporting that had come out that prior to the phone call that Trump had.

With the Ukrainian president that he had it specifically put a hold on aid. Yeah, prior to this phone call, not after, not during, not a threat, a preliminary. This is our beginning bargaining position, which it sets the stage for the phone call. And clearly there's messaging that he wants an investigation of Biden and his son and this bullshit. So like all of these things, a reasonable person would look at them and be like, this needs, like, I don't want to draw a conclusion, but there's enough here that really needs to be sorted out. This is untoward and if allowed to stand is just so suspicious, like you can't. Oh, no, I mean, not even the stuff that's suspicious, like there is a literal violation of the emoluments clause in the memo. But again, it's the one that they're releasing to prove his innocence.

It's a memo, not a transcript. That might literally might not have said that. That might have been a possible that might have been a plug that the Trump slipped in as now. That would be for a dimensional chance. Yeah, yeah, the Ukrainian president didn't say that Trump threw it in as his words in order to buzz market Trump hotels. That might be true. That's how stupid still be against the emoluments. No, that was also reading that reading that memo was very much like, is, is Stevie P's right in the Ukrainian president's lines here?

The dialogue on that is so clearly Steve Pachennik, like literally going like, Oh, how do we get him to pay attention? We flatter the shit out of them. Right. What do we do? We lie to him and we tell him all this shit. The guy, the president of Ukraine is, is a fucking comedian. Played presidents on TV. Of course he can pull that shit off.

Yeah, it's, it's troubling. It's all just real troubling. Yeah, that's my feeling, largely speaking. It's, it's the, it's the sign that every other country thinks Trump is what we all should if we don't already, which is a fucking pathetic, weak will tiny little baby who if you stroke his ego for two seconds will do whatever you want. It becomes, yeah, just like a slot machine. Yeah, what you want. Exactly. It's, it's, it's a mess.

But again, like, like I was saying, I look at all the available evidence and I see like real, uh, oh, it's a real, uh, oh, kind of feeling dark. So, uh, but you know what, like, we have a lot of feelings about this and a lot of the indications that are coming out aren't good and make it look like there's probably real bad thing here. Oh, there's shit to the ground. But Alex is pretty confident that everything's cool. Oh, okay, good. And here's why. What Trump said last week, you're also foolish left. Do you think I would ever do anything illegal over the phone?

Plus, I don't do stuff to begin with. I'm a straight-laced guy. No, straight shooter. That's how you don't go to jail. It's old saying you can't con an honest man. You can easily con an honest man. Those are the easiest people to con. I think all stories of cons are run on honest people.

It's almost entirely honest people. Not all of them. No, you can con. Alex has been conned quite a bit. You can con an honest man. You can con a con man. Right. The only people you can't con are people who don't want to talk to you at all.

Right. That's difficult. Yeah. So Alex believes that this is all not true because Trump said, I don't commit crimes on the phone, which even in the fucking whistleblower complaint, it shows that he's committed crimes on the phone before multiple times. That government has an entire, like they have, it's not even, it's a routine now for them to listen in a conversation and be like, Oh shit, there's a lot of crimes.

Let's go put that in the classified database. That's crazy. He doesn't commit crimes on the phone. He said so. Case closed. Oh, okay. Never mind. So Alex needs to center this around Biden and that all this is, is projecting

onto Trump the crimes that Biden committed so that they could deflect from the fact that he committed those crimes and try and take out Trump. Right. That's all this, this whole game is. Sure. And it's sort of encapsulated in this next clip. He's at the Council on Foreign Relations on national television. That's Biden.

Bragging. They investigated my son. I told them, if you don't fire that prosecutor, I'm going to cut a billion dollars out of aid package. Now it's important to point out that in the clip that Alex is talking about, he never says, because you're investigating my son. Right. That's Alex's editorial theory bullshit being applied to the actual quote, but

he's presenting it to his audience as if that's what Biden said at the CFO. Yeah, he didn't really divorce those two. No, he didn't. And it's almost like he did that on purpose too. I think he did. That was half the aid every year to Ukraine. Now think about that. Think about that.

Then they turn it around in the media that Trump said, I'm going to withhold aid. If you don't rehire that prosecutor, what all Trump said is I heard about this. It's a terrible story. Is that true? Can you look into that? Well, he better be doing stuff like that. Oh, I'd hate to see that investigation not be open. Oh, that would be terrible.

Some, some, I would be awful if something happened to such a lovely country. You know, you need that. Hey, everybody, and we love giving aid to people. Right. This is such bullshit. Oh yeah. Anyway, this next clip, Alex plays the actual clip of Biden at the Council on Foreign Relations. And again, I don't care to defend Joe Biden.

I'm not into him at all. I don't care. Uh, but this is a person who's being unfairly attacked in this case and listen to this clip of him at the CFR and like try and find anything necessarily wrong with what he says. All right. Here's Biden. A year ago on national television and that's what Trump says.

He says, you know, Biden's bragging about this on TV. It's really disturbing. Can you look into this? I mean, if he wasn't doing that, I'd say this guy's got a problem, but instead he's out there like a horse, like a boss doing exactly what he should be doing. Hallelujah. And it's got these crooks here. Here he is, uh, Biden.

And, uh, so I got Ukraine and, uh, um, I remember going over convincing our team or theirs to convincing us that we should be providing for loan guarantees. And I went over, I guess the 12th, 13th time to Kiev and, uh, and I was going, supposed to announce that there was another billion dollar loan guarantee. And I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from, uh, Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor and they didn't. So they said they had, they were walking out to press conference and I said, no, I said, I'm not going to, we're not going to give you the billion dollars.

They said, you have no authority. You're not the president. The president said, I said, call him. I said, I'm telling you, you're not getting a billion dollars. I said, you're not getting a billion. I'm going to be leaving here. And I think it was what, six hours? I looked at him leaving at six hours.

If the prosecutor's not fired, you're not getting the money. So if you want to know who the enemy is, it's those sycophantic people like Richard in Haas and the other sitting up there, preening all kissing each other's ass while they preside over the gang rape of America. So there's nothing in there that matches up with Alex's narrative. There's, he didn't say in any way that I did this because my son, uh, was working at a sketchy company in Ukraine. I didn't do that.

He's not saying that he did it to stall a prosecution. That's built. That's bullshit. That's complete spin and nonsense. And specifically he's saying that they were the ones who forced him. Like the deal was already done. He was, he was never, he didn't plan on doing any of that. Right.

That was already negotiated in advance. They just changed the deal at the last minute and he went, no, no. Yeah. That was, that was it. Yeah. And, and what, any kind of investigation that's done, which I think is always like appropriate, if they're done fairly, is going to reflect this. Like it's, this is a Hail Mary desperate attempt to create cover.

The only reason you do that is if you know, you need to cover something. Right. And that's probably what's going on. Well, this is, this is, uh, I think that last moment we have for, uh, so many people on the, uh, on the Fox news media blitz of like, this is the, this is the, when push comes to shove, you're holding up a memo of Trump saying, I committed a crime and you are look putting it in people's faces and saying, see, he didn't commit a crime for people who love to yell about 1984 all the time.

It's, uh, it's interesting. It's, it's a cliche. We live in a cliche and this is that last moment before it's like, there's no coming back guys. Now you believe whatever the fuck they say. Yeah. If he can put an apple in your fucking mouth and say it's an orange and you're going, I love this orange.

Then you're fucked. Yeah, you're done. I agree. So, uh, Alex now gets Barnes on and I will say this, Barnes still sucks. Good. I will also say this, Alex has his priorities straight because he's having Barnes in to talk about how he's suing people. Uh, and the lawsuits are finally happening.

Uh, but Alex, like I said, has his priorities straight. I'm on the edge of my seat. Constitutional lawyer, criminal lawyer, first amendment lawyer, Robert Barnes is with us in studio next hour, then he's going to host the fourth hour. We filed suit on the young Turks and others today. That's very important. We all go on the offense and we had to do it, but it's got to kind of take a little bit of a backseat to the attempted impeachment, that epic speech.

I mean, this is the real fight for the heart and soul of America. I mean, I would say that that's probably an accurate reflection of what you should be covering your own petty bullshit or the deterioration of our country. I do like that. It was, it's really close. It is not, it is not a distance. No, like that was neck and neck finish right there between, am I going to talk to Barnes all day about how we're taking the young Turks to court?

Yeah. Or yeah, yeah, yeah. The world don't fire or whatever. Yeah. It's, uh, it's pretty crazy. So I need to say this really quick, just off the top, uh, on the off chance, any influential media people listen to our show, which they do not, uh, need to say this, please do not cover these lawsuits.

As someone who has a pretty good handle on Alex's current situation in life, it's hard not to see these as an attempt at a grand publicity stunt and further as an attempt to obfuscate his main Sandy Hook lawsuit. It's my feeling that people, uh, uh, would be wise to leave these cases alone, let them run their course and not give Alex exactly what he wants, which is tons of coverage of these cases, even if the coverage is mocking him. He needs an inflow of people to his site in order to be potential customers. No matter how he gets that inflow, he doesn't give a shit.

And this stuff reeks. Alex sued the young Turks, Brianna Wu and Andrew Kimmel on Wednesday. And I've read the complaint. Uh, and my first thought is, man, this thing was written by Robert Barnes. Generally when I read legal filings for this show, they're very dry, really formal and by the book, this one is not. He let the crowd vote on how he was going to write, uh, it does include, uh, Barnes's big catchphrase a couple of times, which is, of course,

lies and libels. Oh God. One essential problem with this, uh, this filing is that Barnes's argument relies on a conspiracy theory from the filing, quote, parents of, uh, school shootings sued Jones's employer and Jones after the suit was brought. Hackers and cyber criminals, ideologically aligned with the defendants tried to plant child porn on computers of Jones's employer during a time period designed to be unwittingly quote unquote discovered by lawyers involved in the

case by using terms in the emails that had been ordered produced by court ordered discovery. It's very clear that Barnes is heavily implying coordination, uh, between the people who sent Alex the porn and people suing Alex about Sandy Hook. I mean, he put the word discovered in quotes as if to say there wasn't a real discovery and that the lawyers knew what they'd find because the hackers were their ideological allies. All right.

Here's how this, here's how we go. Here's, let's, let's role play this real quick. All right. Um, uh, so here's what happened. All these people, shadowy band of hackers, they got together, they snuck child porn onto the computers at the behest of, and I'm not going to say who, but there happens to be another group of people suing Alex involved. I'm not saying it's them.

I'm just saying they're involved and it was at their behest anyways. So it was all of them. It was all that we got to take down the young. This is completely unfounded and unproven. This conjecture that he's making. No, he doesn't. Oh no. Okay.

And that implication doesn't just pop up once in the filing quote. During the litigation period, Info Wars corporate email accounts were attacked by online cyber criminals, ideologically aligned with the defendants with spyware and malware claiming to be Sandy Hook related emails by including Sandy Hook terms in the emails hidden and embedded in the emails the hackers sent to various Info Wars email addresses where images and videos of child pornography. The emails were never opened by anyone at Info Wars.

The court in the Sandy Hook case requires Info Wars required Info Wars to turn over any and all emails that included any references to Sandy Hook. It appears the hackers who tried to plant the emails on Info Wars servers were aware of this discovery process and deliberately use Sandy Hook terms and emails to create a false controversy. This seems incredibly speculative as info information to be included in your legal filing. The basis for framing Alex as a pitiable victim is being laid out.

As an implication that there's an awareness that this set up that it existed between the plaintiff's counsel and the hackers, whether formal or not, there is this idea that's being presented here. And it's just, it's pure speculation that's meant to obfuscate the case. As always, I'm no lawyer, but this seems deeply irresponsible as a way to frame your legal complaints. So what is his, what is he asking? What?

What with the lawsuits, what does he want? They want a trial against these three defendants at least. The young Turks, Brianna Wu and Andrew Kimmel. For what? For saying that Alex sent child porn to the families. Oh, okay. So it's a libel. Yeah, it's a defamation.

Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. So now that it's established that Alex is the victim here, what these folks are being sued over is headlines and statements that Alex Jones sent child porn to Sandy Hook families. On a purely technical level, that statement doesn't seem to be inaccurate. However, Barnes's big move on page three of the filing is to argue that Alex didn't send anything. His employer info wars turned over emails to the plaintiff's lawyers, to

which I say turned over is the same thing as sent. And Alex Jones is the owner of info wars. So I feel like that argument might be a little thin. We are one tiny step away from his name was in all caps. So it's actually the state's Alex Jones. From what I understand, Alex, Alex Jones, from what I understand, Barnes might have some sovereign ideas about taxes. He's a little sovereign citizen.

He might be. Okay, so we might expect to hear that. We can look forward to him and his meteoric rise only to be followed shortly after by spending 10 years in jail for tax evasion. Who knows? Gotcha. The only exhibit in the document as evidence is a screenshot of a tweet from the young Turks linking to a video titled quote, Alex Jones sent child

porn to Sandy Hook parents. There are no screenshots of anything related to Brianna Wu nor Andrew Kimmel. But I think there might be another thing in this document that is a gigantic red flag. One thing I find particularly troubling is that the defendants listed in the case are the young Turks, Brianna Wu and Andrew Kimmel. However, in the nature of the action section of the filing, the specific details about the young Turks and Brianna Wu, what they did, it's explained.

But there's nothing about Andrew Kimmel. There's instead a complaint about Mark Fullman from Mother Jones, who's not listed as a defendant. What? One gets the sense that Barnes didn't edit this thing or maybe he meant Mother Jones to be a defendant or he forgot to put in that part where what Andrew Kimmel did. I'm not sure.

It's very confusing and probably not a good sign. This lazy motherfucker. It's a that is sad. I think there might be some implication that Andrew Kimmel wrote for Mother Jones, but why is there stuff about somebody else in the nature of the action part when Andrew Kimmel is the defendant? I don't understand. Yeah, seems a seem sloppy.

This is such that same like the Republican talk or the White House talking points were accidentally sent to the Democrats. Like we're in the level of criminal mastermind that is just absolutely stupid. They're all so fucking stupid. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's even more. It's even more of an insult. So here's some random thoughts I have about this case that I think I think it's

going to be tough for Alex to win these cases. One, in claiming that this is defamation, Barnes tries to argue that this is negatively affected Alex's reputation. I think that's going to be insanely hard to prove for one, because Alex's reputation is shit. And for two, because Alex, I remember him saying on the air that he was doing better after the porn attack, like how that woke up the audience to show how evil the media is.

So I think that there are things from Alex's show that could be used very easily. I was like, well, this didn't damage him. He said that he's doing better. Yeah, there is a certain sense. His reputation so low among the rest of the world. It could only be raised by actually being the guy who sent child porn to these people amongst the people who follow him. In turn, and the second thing in terms of the specific statement, quote, Alex

Jones sent porn to child, sorry, to Sandy Hook parents. Like if you accept that inforce is owned by Alex and the lawyers worked for Sandy Hook parents, I don't think that's technically a false statement. Like whatever they, like the young Turks headline, like it doesn't necessarily imply that Alex knew what was being said. It doesn't imply intention. And I think they're going to have a really hard time arguing that this is a defamatory statement.

If even if it really feels defamatory to Alex, then third, when we covered this story, it was my position that saying Alex sent this porn was a bit of a sensational headline. I thought, you know, it was arguably probably technically true. It still probably didn't capture the reality of the story. I took the position that it wasn't a good headline since there's a broader story and that was probably kind of clickbait behavior. But I don't think you can sue someone for that.

And if you can, Alex better go scrub literally all the content off info wars. They get something he does quite often is post sensational, unprovable headlines about people that are meant to damage their reputations. Consider his big piece that we talked about earlier, comparing Greta Thunberg to Hitler. Like that's just one example. I think that if he wins these suits, which he almost certainly will not, that they won't even make it to the courtroom.

No, absolutely not. They'd be tossed out. He kind of opens himself up, though, to action from literally anyone he's written a headline about, which could be a real fucking problem. Like this would be really chilling even to his own ability to operate his business. No, the person stupid idea. The person who would be most damaged by him winning this lawsuit is him somehow. Also, right.

So it's my feeling that this is a gigantic attempt at a publicity stunt meant to get Alex more attention and hopefully raise funds for info wars because the suits are probably going to be inevitably thrown out of court or he'll withdraw them. I don't think this is going anywhere further. It really feels like this is an attempt to portray Alex as a sympathetic figure in the context of something related to Sandy Hook in order to sway public opinion before his actual trial begins on that issue.

I recommend actual media outlets leave this thing alone and let it play out its course as much as it might feel really fun to dog pile and jump in and make fun of him. I do think that that's his goal. Yeah, let's all just let him go to the elephant graveyard and die there. It we don't need to drag him out to kick him every now and again. It would seem wise. Yeah, so he gets to talking about Barnes and true to form. He does think that his lawsuits are secondary to the impeachment

and the Biden Ukraine stuff. Good. And so he talks to Barnes about this. Biden video that Alex has from the do you mean the smoking gun? The CFR. Yeah, they actually say it is that really. Yeah. God, I hate these CFR video is a smoking gun. I'm making fun of you. Something that's an actual smoking gun. As they said, the transcript is going to be a smoking gun.

The actual smoking gun is there. Joe Biden saying if you don't fire the prosecutor, you don't get the billion dollars from the US government. A prosecutor who was involved in potentially investigating his son. And that's quit. Co-pro right in front of him. Oh, from a criminal case perspective. If I was defending Joe Biden, that would be a almost an

impossible thing to overcome. No, it wouldn't. It's very easy to overcome. But notice the language that Barnes used there. He described a chokin as a prosecutor who was, quote, involved potentially in investigating Biden's son. Even Barnes knows that there was no investigation into Biden's son that Joe is trying to curtail.

But the optics are so important here. You got to present the idea that there was a good event. Hey, yeah, this is shameful shit. And sincerely, when this is all said and done, I hope Barnes ends up disbarred. His behavior on info wars over the past couple of months has been a complete disgrace to his profession. He is not operating ethically in any sense.

Oh, no, this is insane. Yeah, it does kind of seem like he's lost his mind a little bit too. Well, he's trying to create an evil PLC. So yeah, like what when I would like to know the time line on when Barnes just fucking flipped probably after defending Wesley Snipes, yeah, maybe I don't know how long is he didn't go on the show immediately after starting to work on Alex's. I think it was pretty close.

It was pretty close. And then even before he started defending Alex, he defended like Cassandra Fairbanks and Chuck Johnson. And then he was just on the and then he came. I think he was part of that. The attempt at that grift. It wasn't it wasn't too far off from when he started defending Alex to he became, you know, it's granted it's grown and he's on

all the fucking time now. That wasn't the case initially. No, yeah. But yeah, he's he's always seemed to, you know, he wants the spotlight. It does seem like Barnes is trying to live out this reality TV show star life where he's like, he got some attention and then all of a sudden he got addicted to the attention and now he fucking loves it. He's really full of himself.

He thinks he's a great broadcaster on Info Wars 2. And eventually it's all going to disappear and he's going to wind up making five grand for an appearance at a bar on a Friday night. That's what's going to happen. Barnes, which is why he needs to set up this evil SPL. Yeah, you gotta, you gotta, yeah, that's true. So Barnes is real stupid about this Biden tape being a smoking gun, which makes this next clip even more funny.

I'm thankful for this wonderful crew. I'm thankful for my family for a good friend of mine. Now Robert Barnes, he can get on any subject and he knows all about it. Cause he did all this stuff and I want somebody's BSing and he's got a better memory than I do, of course. So I, I love it. I love it. He could talk about anything.

He sounds like an expert and I know when people are BSing. Let's look at all of your old guests, Alex. Let's look at how many strikes you have in that category. So sad. He never knows when someone's BSing. Yeah, that is, that is trouble. That is trouble. If you still believe that, you know, when somebody's BSing, especially

after you haven't let Pachenek, you've, you've noticeably left Pachenek off your show for a long time, which suggests that you also know you are not good at telling when somebody's BSing. You just had Carpe dunked him on Brighton about talking to a guy who dresses up as a wall. Exactly. Great. Yeah.

Great. So Alex talks to Barnes about this lawsuit and, uh, you know, Alex turns it into like a real heroic endeavor that he's engaged in, but I think if you listen to this full clip, you kind of get a sense of what's going on here between Alex and Barnes, I really think that, um, it's kind of as time goes on, it becomes so much clearer what their relationship is. We don't, we're not litigious. We're doing this for everybody's free speech and everybody to be protected.

And for conservatives, Christians and nationalists and pro-gun folks to stand up and let the left know the deranged left that it's not open season on us anymore. That said, Robert Barnes is doing this at cost for the filings and things, but he intends to depose these people. He intends to fly around on airplanes and do all this with his team. I've seen him do it myself with what he's doing. We weren't going to be able to continue on with the legal fees, uh, that we had, uh, at the level we're at right now, we'd have to cut back if Barnes hadn't come in

and helped us cut back on some things and really streamline things. But I got to tell you, you need to go to a free American law center.com and become a member. I have a strong suspicion is using him as pure advertising. I have a strong suspicion that Barnes, like he's saying, he's working at cost, which means for free. Yeah. He's doing this legal pro bono work and Alex is promoting the free

America law center. Yep. There's our, I think that it's pretty clear that that's payment in kind. Do you know what that is? That's a fucking quid pro quo. Did quid quid quid pro cool cool. Yeah. I, I, I think it's pretty clear from statements that have been made and the

pattern that we're seeing that, you know, maybe Barnes had ideas to get this off the ground. He knew that Alex has a big media empire with tons of listeners. It's a great place to try and, uh, cultivate support for it. I'll, I'll hopefully use it as a stepping stone when you get a higher profile client and you go on Fox news or whatever. I made enough money defending Wesley Snipes that I don't need money now or whatever.

I can take a hit, work for Alex for free, take this high profile last case and he's not working for free by the way. No, I don't believe that for a second now, but you work at a reduced rate in order to make yourself the only option Alex has. Use him to fucking get your, uh, evil SPLC off the ground. Alex is great. You don't know who your friends are, or he does know, and he's on board with that.

That's possible. That's true. An evil SPLC helps Alex too. That's true. So it kind of works in both of their favors, but it's pretty clear what the arrangement seems to be. Yeah, but one of them is going to lose. They're both going to lose.

Well, I know, but by losing Barnes wins, Alex just loses. That's debatable. But yeah, yeah, I don't know. I don't think it's going to work for Barnes either. No, well, we'll see. We'll see him in prison in 10 years for tax evasion. Sure. So there's big news in Alex's Sandy Hook case also that they talk about for a

second and that is that the Connecticut Supreme court was hearing the arguments about his, uh, he appealed the, uh, the, the punishment that he got for going on air drunk and, uh, trying to intimidate the opposing counsel. Yeah. Um, and so the Connecticut Supreme court agreed to hear that small section right of the case. And here's how Alex presents that. So out of control, the Supreme court of Connecticut has taken over the Sandy

Hook case saying I'm being basically railroaded. That's being heard tomorrow before ever went to trial. There's this public interest. That's like when you catch, you know, the judge with a bunch of money in the back of their truck from the mafia, that's when the Supreme court gets involved. Barnes should not allow Alex to say things like that. That is a complete lie and a misrepresentation of the case. The Connecticut Supreme court hasn't taken over his Sandy Hook case.

It's a small, uh, it was described in a Connecticut paper that I was reading as a sideshow of the actual case. It is a, it is a small matter about the sanction that was imposed because of his million dollar bounty that he put out. Yeah, that one is a, that one's an issue. It's tough to, tough to get around that one. Right. At the time that we started recording this, I don't know how that worked out,

but that was like on Thursday as we're recording this, that was being heard. Yeah. Um, and Alex may have gotten those sanctions relieved or you might not have. I don't know, but whatever it is, it has no real bearing on his actual case. No. And either, either way, if he does get the sanctions released the next day, he'll say something worthy of getting sanctions. Undoubtedly.

So it's, well, I mean, yeah, if they do end up, uh, taking away those sanctions, it does seem to imply that Alex can do stuff like that on air if he wants to, yep, and the punishments won't come. None. And I guess. Cool. I don't know. So we have one last clip here and it's Alex and Barnes talking about how crazed

and backed into the corner Democrats are. But if you really listen to this, listen carefully. It sounds like a perfect description of Alex. I'm more scared of the Democrats because they're so crazy. If they're wild eyed right now, they're just nuts. And they, well, it's like anyone exposed, they're looking in the mirror and they're projecting onto others that which they see in themselves, particularly in fearing that the deepest, most problematic aspects of their institutional

power will now be exposed for the whole world to see. Are you fucking with me? That is Barnes fucking with me. No, but I mean, we see this all the time in various different permutations. Them just describing the other side doing exactly what they're doing, even down to saying that the other side is saying that they're doing what the other side is doing. Like it's just, it's intended to confuse and disorient people.

It's insane. Yeah. But that perfectly describes how my view of Alex is from looking at his show. Yeah, that's bad. Crazed, backed into a corner, scared of the world seeing what's actually going on in his operation. Like it's all, this is all just sad. I, I, man.

And when you see the way that the cover for the Biden stuff or the cover for the Trump stuff in it, pointing to Biden and all this, you see the exact same behavior, like it's all just a dumb shell game. God, you know, Barnes could absolutely insult Alex to his face for an hour. If he just started it with, I know this globalist and then went on a laundry list of the things that Alex is. He started a radio show and completely lost his way and, uh, you know, now he's supporting globalism.

Oh, that's so sad. What a loser. Oh, that sucks. It must suck to be him. Yeah, I agree. So when I come to the end of all this, uh, one of the things that I come away with is a sense of like, there's a lot of really big shit going on in the real world and you expect Alex to have either some kind of a freak out or

something or have a decently interesting angle on any of it. And you really don't. No, you really don't. It's ultimately very disappointing listening to these episodes. Like I, it makes me think he is sober. Quite frankly, he's not drinking because his response to this kind of high level shit, yeah, even six months ago would have been explosive. And as it is, you look at his show and it's just yelling about Biden,

Greta Thunbergs, Hitler. It's kind of uninspired in a lot of ways, absolutely have been an emergency report for any, for some, for something. I couldn't find one. I don't know if he's allowed to do those anymore because of the sanctions, things still being unresolved. I don't, I don't know. I don't know what it is.

I feel disappointed in some ways. I think there's a lot of interesting things. I think it's interesting to learn about the, you know, the angle being, uh, of attack on Thunberg, the, uh, the Soros shit. It's interesting to find that that comes from a Q and on Twitter account. That's interesting. It's interesting to see the reality of the Biden stuff in Ukraine. Yeah.

But Alex can do better, or he could do better at some point. There was a time, or at least he could be more interesting. It's just, it's, it's, it's disappointing for me. I'm disappointed in you, Alex. Yeah. I expect a better propagandist and, uh, you are not that anymore. Yeah, I really, I really think that in his life, that, that clip of him, like just telling everybody Trump has mobbed up, I don't trust this guy.

He is going to die looking at that as his like fucking man in the high tower in the high castle moment of like, there were two paths I could have taken. I could have gone here and then there's this reality and I went this way and I got the shitty reality. Sure. That's what the man in the high castle is about, but I'm just saying it's the alternate reality concept. Jesus fair enough.

Jesus. Just don't like you misusing Philip K. Dick. Fine. But even if this is kind of uninspired and weak propaganda that could just easily be done by anybody else, it's still worth it to go over this for the revelation that Alex thinks that Jefferson Davis was a US president. That's insane.

That will live on as probably the most on brand Freudian slip I've ever heard. Yeah. I can't think of anything better. Yep. So we'll be back on Monday with a new episode. And indeed we will. It's been a long time since we did a wacky Wednesday episode. Might do one on Monday, just as a palate cleanser.

We'll see. It depends on whether or not we're all still alive on Monday. That is a good point. Things are moving fast. Things are moving fast. I honestly think this episode might be outdated by the time we have finished recording it. Honestly.

But we'll see and we'll be back then. But until then we have a website. We do have a website. It's knowledgefight.com. Correct. We're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It is at knowledge underscore fight.

Yes. And at go to bed Jordan. Correct. We're also on Facebook. We are. I'm really into annunciation right now. That seems that way. But yeah, if you wanted to listen to our show, you can go to iTunes.

Download the podcast. You could leave a review, but let me tell you something, Dan, the best way. The best way to hear this show is go down to your local 1950s themed diner. All right. I don't know which one is yours, but mine specifically is off Highway 57. Okay. You go there. You order a real salty cup of coffee because it's a terrible diner.

Terrible. You've had you've had that salty cup of coffee. I'm not sure I have. Oh, it's a terrible diner. And when the woman brings out your check because it's a 1950s diner, she's a woman. She's going to bring out that notepad. She's going to have it in her little apron. She's going to hand it to you and underneath it.

Palmed like a magician thumb drive. Okay. And I'll have our episode. And you'll get a nice malt out of the situation if you so choose. We'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark.

I am the guy who dresses like a wall at a Trump rally. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Well, Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.