Knowledge Fight - #354: October 8-9, 2019

Episode Date: October 11, 2019

Today, Dan and Jordan take a look at what's been going on in the present day on The Alex Jones Show. In this installment, the gents find Alex having underwhelming responses to all manner of new stories. Also, Alex has some troubling ideas about receiving messages from God.

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definition, that's a great question and it's been too long, 92 Nirvana was that no, certainly not that far back but it's been a number of years since a like me and my buddies generally go on float trips and that's always a good time, although even when like once you have smartphones you can still kind of bring them along, it's awful, but those are kind of a good time to to check out a society go down a lazy river, yeah, yeah, that's a that's a good time, I've long felt the call of nature, at least like the last couple years, I've been definitely feeling like I want to do more camping but it's kind of difficult, yeah, in some ways you have been emulating Grizzly Adams for the past few, my beard's getting

a little crazy. Yeah, yeah. And I have a cat and I have plants in my home now, so that's the Chicago apartment version, I suppose. But yeah, I want to go camping, but I have some difficulties. One, I don't have a car. Two, I don't have camping equipment. Right. Three, schedule of this show is very difficult. But but I would like that I love the woods. Yeah, I love being outside. It's one of the things I miss the most about being in central Missouri back when I lived there was, you know, you just go little ways down, you're gonna find a little bit of forest somewhere. Take a walk, you'll find some forest. And that's not true everywhere, but most of most places in the town, or at least that's how I remember

it. You drive 15 minutes, you're gonna be at a town that's 20 miles across and you're like, take a walk and you'll be outside. Sure. Slightly folksy or memory of it, then actually, it was real. But there it was much more accessible campgrounds and stuff like that. It feels much less so here in Chicago. Although realistically, there probably are a bunch of places that are not very far from the city. Yeah, probably not. You could go and camp. But again, no camping gear, no car. What are you gonna get an RV? I've told you that we should go camping and you have almost spit on it. I am not a fan of the out of doors. Yeah, you have been very against that idea. But yeah, I'd like to do that unplug because it's unhealthy to

stay plugged in all the time. But I have a tree outside my window and that's good enough for me. That's close enough. I like it. Anyway, this is a podcast where I know a bit about camping and quite a bit about Alex Jones. And I don't know anything about either. That's correct. So Jordan, today we are checking in on the present day and we're gonna be going over October 8th and 9th 2019. Sure. It's an interesting stretch of time where there's a lot of real world stuff going on. I don't remember any of it. Alex has some interesting takes on them. One tremendously bad take. And then one, right, whatever take. I'll give you that in advance. That is that he supports the people who are doing Hong Kong protests

and is against the companies who are trying to silence those protests. Right, right, right. But that's even that I think is coming from a bad face. Exactly. That's why I say it's an okay. It's okay. Yeah, I agree with the bottom line. I guess I know that you're wrong about China being run by the literal devil. Right. That one is an issue. Yeah, that one is an issue. I agree. The NBA is full of bullshit, but also not the devil. Right. Yeah. I guess he has another horrific take to but we'll get to that as we get to it. But before we get to the episode, Jordan, we're gonna take a little moment to say thank you to some people who have signed up and are supporting the show. So first of all, Brian, thank you so much. You're now a

policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Next brandy. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Next school crush. Oh, is that right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, she's a fine girl. What a good wife she would be. But my love, my life and my lady is the sea. All right. All right. You don't like looking glass? Got it. Okay. Next, Anthony. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Next, Evan. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Next. And finally, I'd like to say thank you to couple people donated on elevated level. We appreciate that very much. So first of all, Marius. Thank you so much. And Neil. Thank you so much. You're both wonderful technocrats. I'm a policy wonk. Crikey, mate. That's fantastic. Have

yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro? All right, we got to go full tilt buggy on this Watson. All right, let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin. Why are you pimp so good? My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you. Thank you so much, Marius and Neil. Yes, thank you very much. If you're out there listening and thinking, hey, I enjoy this show, I'd like to support these gents. Do you can support the show by going to our website, knowledge fight.com. Clicking the button says sports show. We would appreciate it. It'd be lovely. So for first bad take, yeah, we start right at the gate on the eighth and it has to do with Syria. Oh, surprise. And Alex's big scale take on this is genocide that bad.

He's not even dealing with it on those terms necessarily. He's dealing with the situation where Trump is signaling to Erdogan that it's totally cool to do whatever you want. Right. In northern Syria, just go for it. We're not going to stop you. Yeah. He's dealing with that on a very elementary level. One of the pieces is Trump said he was going to bring home troops, which is not a great take. No, that one's bad. I'm going to call that one bullshit. But that one is actually a position that he has that takes an interesting journey throughout the course of this episode that we'll write. He should put them in Hong Kong. The other one is the other take that he has is that, look, man, there's two options here. Maybe this one

isn't great, but the other one is worse. It was Obama and the globalist that took over the sovereign state, the bath estate of Syria that's been stable for 50 years. Really? It was the neo cons of the globalist that created this crisis. Now they've handed it to Trump. And Turkey has said we they're going to flood Europe in a new disaster, or we're going to move these people back into Syria. And so Trump said, well, I'm not going to go to war with you if you try to do that. And then Pat Robertson comes out and says that Trump will lose the mandate of heaven if I guess we don't go to war with Turkey. So Alex's whole thing is that Erdogan had said that,

you know, I'm going to let these these immigrants, these refugees from Syria come through the border, unless I can set up this safe space here. Yeah, I would say that that's taking what it you know, what you might call the dictator says, yeah, the two options, and we're believing those are the sincere two options. Right, right, right. That seems like a loser's game. Well, all I know, all I know for sure is that, you know, with dictators, you can always trust them to follow through on their word. That's for sure to create precise, accurate, realistic dichotomies. Oh, 100%. These are your two options. That's why we elect strongmen is because they have nuanced takes on things, right? Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. So Alex is dealing

with it on that level is like, well, I don't want 3.6 million more refugees going into the great West in Europe. So of course, we have to let them ask them. Yeah, people there. Yeah. And it's, you know, you can trust Turkey too, because they have never I mean, historically, Turkey has never committed any mass scale atrocities of any kind. Alex has some thoughts about those. Oh, sure. But he says there at the end, the Pat Robertson is saying that Trump, if he does this, if he allows this to happen, he will lose heaven's mandate. Yeah. And Alex has a particular critique of Pat Robertson's words. So we've got that huge report and Pat Robertson saying all this. And by the way, you probably heard of mandate of heaven. That is an exact Chinese proverb when

different Chinese emperors were successful. They had the mandate of heaven. When they didn't, they had lost the mandate. The communist Chinese talk about the mandate of the Communist Party being the mandate of heaven. So that that is just all part of the China vacation, the Chi commification. So one thing is true about this and that is a Chinese idea. Oh, yeah, absolutely. It goes back to like the Kingdom's way back 300 BC, roughly. Yeah. Yeah. So that is a real thing. He is right. It's not a proverb, but probably not. Yeah, proverbly not. Yeah. So he's right on sort of a micro scale, but on a larger scale, I would say that there is a lot of divine talk that surrounds Trump coming out of info wars. No.

So for him to be like, you know, I don't think that Pat Robertson is quoting the Chinese. I don't think he's referring to that. Yeah, I think it has to do with their ideas about divine rule. Yeah. Instead of Trump being a god king, Pat Robertson says he has the mandate of heaven. And that's a really important squabble to really hammer out at this point in time. You know, you want a Trump, you want a westernized mandate of heaven. Trump's even made overtures to the idea that like, you know, God put him in power. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, once you once you get to great and immeasurable wisdom or whatever the fuck he said, infinite, yeah, which should have been an impeachable offense right there, right? Just even writing that should

have been like, get the fuck out of here, get out of here. Yeah. So I think that's really interesting. And it's, it's, it's something that when I heard I was like, Alex, you know, how much you talk about God and Trump and all this, like, you know, why, why are you, why are you pointing the finger at Pat Robertson for using similar ideas, but in the opposite direction that you wanted to go. And all of a sudden that's now a Chinese trick. Well, your God says something different than my God, except remember, we're technically calling him the same God, but you're an asshole. That's not how religion ever works though. Yeah. So Alex is is peeved that the Robertsons using this, this Chinese proverb in order to malign

Trump for his decision to allow Turkey to come in and start bombing people and Alex innocent people. Fair enough. Yeah, true. And Alex has an interesting position on this. And that is that there's sort of a circumstance wherein he would be against the Kurds being attacked. Sure. Let's hear it. Unfortunately, that has not been satisfied. Outlaw abortion. And how to sit there now and blame Trump when he's saying, okay, I got two bad decisions, but the least bad is to let Turkey go into Northern Syria, a place up until World War One or so that they controlled. So 100 years ago, 102 years ago or so, Turkey still controlled that area. And there's constant civil war going on between the Kurds and Turkey.

The United States geopolitically has used the Kurds as a set piece and has used it as an excuse to stay in the region. And when I talked to US military, including quote, special forces people, they're so brainwashed, they go, well, the Kurds are Christians. No, they're not. They're 90% plus Muslim. So let them die. I mean, just the level of brainwashing our own trips are given about why the Kurds are our buddies and why we need to be there. It does seem that Alex has a bit of a like, yeah, if that were true, I'd be with you on that. Of course, I would support you if they were Christian, but they're Muslims, so let them be burnt to life. It doesn't matter. That's his take.

It does. It seems like that is like, well, yeah, that would be a good argument, but it's not. Yeah, because you're an idiot. That's real scary. You know, he's got two options, Dan. Right. He can leave people in there a very relatively speaking small number of quite small providing a lot of sport support, which also is less necessary for, you know, it's just a signal that we're there and we're watching and to remove them as a signal that you can that bombs away, we are not watching. So generally speaking, the lesser of two evils is never go ahead and commit genocide because I'm annoyed with this phone call. That's usually not the better of two evils, you know, and if that's how you're presenting it, that means you

are really winging it or you're just lying. One of the two is clear for Alex. I'm not entirely sure which it is because he gets completely 180 on this episode. Okay. Like he is, he has this position that it is just like, you know, they're, uh, Trump said he's going to pull troops out, you know, taking them out of Afghanistan, taking him, he's going to bring the boys home, all this stuff. And by the end of it, he's just realized this is a completely stupid argument. Yeah. Yeah. But it's weird to see that for someone who's like researched and Scott, like I know all this stuff for on like the course of his episode, like within two hours, he is like just completely changed his tune. Of course. Very weird. But one thing that we know

for sure is that all of these whistleblowers that are coming out about Trump and his phone calls, Democratic hit jobs. Well, it might not even be just the Democrats. I mean, obviously, it is the Democrats naturally, but you know, they're allowing or talking about allowing these people to testify, uh, with their, uh, identities hidden, right? Because as opposed to hanging them, which is what he would prefer, maybe, but you know, there, I, from what I understand, the conversation is surrounding, uh, safety issues, um, that, that kind of thing. Yeah. Alex believes that they're actually just going to try and bring like clapper in and obscure his face. So no one knows that it's actually just clapper or Brennan.

That would be hilarious. And then the latest ladies and gentlemen with the so-called whistleblowers, that what do you call a disgruntled Democrat that's being taken out of power who's corrupt? Well, I mean, they all know that clapper and Brennan and all the usual suspects, like Andy McCabe and all of them that are getting indicted, Benicio del Toro, are discredited. So they come out and say their names, they'll go, Oh, that's a partisan that was involved politically trying to stop Trump using intelligence agencies. So they call themselves whistleblowers and claim that Trump's doing to them what they did to him. So because they've been burned as Trump haters and discredited, now we have to put a little pixel

on them, pixelate the face and retrot them out as whistleblowers. Yep. Great. Cool. I like the, I like the idea of him being on the fucking house floor and they just turned the lights down on him and he's got a little vocoder and, you know, but it's, it's a from, it's a Peter Frampton vocoder. It's not a actual, yeah, absolutely. And then at the end of his testimony, they just turned the lights on and like, Hey, look at you. All right, get out of here. Yeah. I don't know. I think this is silly. And if this is what you got, you don't got much. So Alex then gets the spirit in and he starts ranting about how his show is basically just the spirit of America. Real quick. Are we all just going to let it go that the, that Democrats are credibly afraid

that if they share the identity of the whistleblower with other house representatives, they will leak it and kill the man? Are we just going to all be like, this is fine? I guess, I guess that is, that's how we're doing it. Okay, cool. So anyway, Alex's show is the voice of Americana and the Republic. Right. I literally wrote the future warfare doctrine on information warfare response to the chai comms. If America wants to survive and I'm not bragging, but it's time to just get down to brass tax. This is the spirit of the Republic. This broadcast is it. And I don't mean that to brag. That's a very dangerous position to be in. And it shows how cowardly everybody else was or how they just bought into all these fake doctrines. The real

globalist doctrine is public. That said, I got behind this weekend. As you know, I didn't even really plug on the Sunday show. I barely even plugged yesterday because I'm so busy and so focused. And if I don't plug, we won't be here. Smooth. He's roughly 10 years behind. 10 years behind. This is crazy. I just say, I'm the, I told you how to beat the chai comms years ago. And I'm the we are the cell of America. Now I got to look. Listen, right? I'm, I'm a little bit behind. I'm not doing a good job of this. I am bad at being the voice of Americana. And I want to let you know that. And that's why you should. I'm too busy being the voice of Americana to plug all the time. I can only plug half the time. That is a problem right now. Our finances are drying up.

So Alex gets back to the issue with Syria. And again, this is really, I think, a crystallization of his viewpoint. And it is a, I don't care. Right. And it's also Trump is doing the right thing. Sure. But here's the president who's right saying it's time to come back home. He promised to get us out of Syria. He promised to get us out of Afghanistan. He's ordered the withdrawal. It's down to almost nothing in Afghanistan. And he's now withdrawing everybody out of there. And Turkey always said, we're going to move in and take over northern Kurdistan because it's always launching attacks on us. And then that's where they'll kick them, the invaders back in. And yeah, it's going to be a mess because the globalists destabilize it on purpose. Not our

problem. Trump's fixing it. Here's the president. It's not our problem. That's a man, you know, you know, when that's the voice of Americana, we've always been on the right side of history. I recall, if I recall correctly, whenever we say as a country, it's not America. So who cares? Right. Everybody when they read the history books are like, that was the right move. It certainly, it certainly seems like that's the position Alex is taking. And I do not find it to be compelling. I do not find it to be at all responsible or good. Because it's saying like, yeah, fuck it, who cares? No matter what atrocities, no matter what horrible things you see, that is just be, I mean, it's in many ways blaming the people who are going to be affected by this.

Yeah, the people who are going to be murdered by this. Yes. Yeah, not affected. Right. They would be affected if they were likely to live through it. But the issue is that the globalists are behind all this, right? Obama started all these wars and what have you. And I mean, sure, there was more military action under Obama than I'm comfortable with. That's okay. That's a criticism I'm willing to hear from anybody but Alex Jones. But unfortunately, as he's discussing that dynamic, he ends up, you know, really showing some cards about like, what he believes is going on in the world. Obama launched more wars than Bush did. And I didn't like those wars, because they were destabilizing countries and putting things far worse in. Look at Iraq, it's in a civil war.

They're under martial law right now. The whole Middle East is fighting over control. It's what the Muslims do. They never stop fighting with themselves or anybody else. So it's just what the Muslims do. Right, right. Now I would counterpoint maybe colonialism exacerbated a lot of those issues. Certainly. But what you hear here is like, okay, yeah, the Middle East, everyone's fighting for control. They're killing each other because that's what the Muslims do. Essentially, we've already heard him say like Syria was in this stable place under Assad and his father. They were fighting under dictatorships. Right. Muslims are stable and under control. Of course, he's essentially advocating for a worldview where like you can't have Muslims not under an oppressive

dictator. Well, and that's why we went into Iran and installed a religious theocracy there in order to make sure that they were stable. You know, that that was what we wanted out of it. We wanted a stable country. It seems like a lot of that this is a lot of what he's implying underneath. What are you saying? And I'm deeply uncomfortable for that, particularly because he's Mr. Police State. Yeah, you know, like, yeah, he's he's Mr. Anti tyranny. And he seems to be pretty clearly expressing a view that some people just got to live in tyranny. Yeah, like otherwise they're just fight with each other, kill everybody. It's what they do. Well, and not just that he's also kind of expressing at least underneath this overall strategy for dealing with the Middle East of just

we'll let them fight it out. Yeah. And then we'll deal with whatever's left over. Yeah, there is a little bit of that. I mean, you did literally say it's not our problem. Yep. So that's not good. No. He gets back now to talking about China issues. Sure. And like I said, I'm on the side of against these companies that are trying to censor, yeah, Hong Kong messages naturally and that sort of because you're a human is what we call that. I have vague humanity left in me after years of listening to Alex Jones. But yes. Yeah. And Alex's whole take on this is that the Chinese government's been exposed as the like censoring people that they are. And I don't necessarily think that anybody ever didn't think that to some extent. No, I'm pretty sure everybody I think

Alex's version of it is greatly exaggerated. But I think that people in normal political talk or they don't pretend that's not the case. No. And I would imagine that even for the people of China who don't have access to VPNs and the like that give that allow them to see the the internet as we know it. I think if you are not one of those people and you're just looking around for the internet and you find a site that's blocked because of, you know, the repressive government, you're like, we live under censorship. It's not hard to figure out. Yeah. It's not like your brainwashed to where you can't see that 404 not found is just your government saying fuck you. And so Alex has this idea that like when he was taken off social media and all of these these

places, you know, he's all kicked off YouTube. But it's all because he had the program to take down the Chinese government. He was the only one who really knew how to fight the Chinese evil government. Sure. And so they censored him. And now look out CNN you're next. They're all gonna like everybody's gonna go. Yeah. And he just is like everybody who criticizes China is completely silenced and all this. And there's an essential problem because he's also won't stop talking about the new episode of South Park that was all about China. It was all about like the camps they have for dissidents. Absolutely. And so well the genocide they're perpetrating on the Muslim members of their country. That is a counter example to Alex's entire point that

everything about anti China or critical of China is censored. He he doesn't understand that he's like everybody but no one's allowed to talk about time. Now this great episode of South Park just came out. Yeah, it's like, wait a second. Yeah, you know, really they're one of the I don't I don't know how what their ratings are doing now but they're one of the most long standing shows on Comedy Central. They're huge ratings one of the biggest biggest shows maybe of the last decades. Yeah, or at least most influential. Yeah. Yeah. And so Alex tries to play a clip from this South Park episode. It does not go well. And he is totally fine with that. And then we'll come back and break down more of this geopolitically and what this means. But here's the dad who's in the

death camp in China. Clip 17. Rum roll please. It seems to me like your music is kind of Let's just stop. Let's just stop. It's okay. No big deal. You know, we have had a lot of computer problems and it's not a big deal. I'm happy with it. We'll we'll try next hour after our guest leaves us to go to these clubs. It's not a big deal. I'm totally happy with it. That's so funny. That's a guy who's so mad. Yeah, he's furious. That's so funny. I get like the idea of a it's no big deal. We'll you know, we'll deal with this later. So you know, like I get that but being like, I'm totally happy about it. Yeah, that's Alex. That's overcompensating. I got a

I got a little inside information for you. It is the graze. Yeah, we know it's a pulsar attack. You got it. So Alex said he's got a guest and he does. He has a guest coming up after the break and that is of course, the anti communist himself Joel Scousen. Joel Scousen comes in and you know, I think his prominence in the show is hedging a little bit on Alex's part. Like he's he's certainly like still very aggressively pro Trump. Yeah, but Joel Scousen is pretty critical of Trump and frequently on Alex's show says that Trump is stupid right and because he is and the idea of the Scousen's coming up more regularly now makes me think that Alex is trying to like at least leave that door open a little bit. Okay, okay, you think he's trying to hedge his bet. So

if all the shit goes down and the public opinion or the opinion amongst his circle of minions changes then he'll be able to credibly say no, no, no, I had this guy on there. We were I was debating with him and now yeah, yeah, keep up appearances of a critical voice right in case you need him keep him credible and fresh in the audience's mind right in case you do decide I got a jump ship on this right now you still have an expert you can go to as opposed to all the other Trump who are who are going to never speak to you again. Yeah, so Alex talks to Scousen here and I want to remind you earlier in the episode Alex's thing was it doesn't matter what's going on in Syria and it's great Trump said he's going to bring troops home right and Scousen has a

completely different take on this but there are several much more larger bases with combat troops south of that area in Syria that aren't leaving and so Trump has been given some false intelligence that you're going to be leaving Syria if you take out these two outposts it's just not true and so I think he's been snookered but I think the larger agenda is to have a major war start with Turkey and the Kurds that will then justify pushing Trump into letting armed forces come back into Syria in other words it's a backdoor to get more troops into Syria by letting a massacre occur between Turkey and the Kurds. Turkey's one of the largest conventional militaries. Were you eating? You were eating Alex. Can you speak to that Joel? He's definitely eating. He's definitely

eating. Yes 100 percent. That is a man eating food. Right but Joel Scousen is very accurately pointed out that this is not going to be a meaningful withdrawal this is going to if anything cause awful results that might make it more likely that more people will go in. Yeah whatever you are pushing forth as like he said he's going to bring the guys home or saying it's not our problem Joel Scousen does not agree with either of those things and I mean it's sad how easily Alex completely falls in line with Scousen's position like he's completely convinced him within a matter of minutes to go completely against what he was saying earlier in the episode. He's not taking out the hundreds of other troops and Blackwater mercenaries that are deeply in these

other bases in Syria so these being lied to by his intelligence. But let me ask you this question when we come back with Joel Scousen what does President Trump do to get out of this mess this bear trap that he's obviously stepped into. And again Trump's not God he makes mistakes folks and I agree with Joel Scousen that the way this has all been maneuvered he's being set up. That was fast. It's crazy. That is I was skeptical that it would be that blatant like when you said he changes his position I thought he was going to ease into it and maybe be like I think you know what I think you have a point you know where we're going to discuss this after the break and it said he was like uh yeah he fucked up everybody knows it I agree with him. Yeah wow turns out Trump

has been set up. Yeah yeah this is the deep state. These are these are serious issues like he doesn't have any idea. No he doesn't give a fuck. He doesn't have any idea what he's even espousing to his audience. Nope. All it takes is Joel Scousen and a fucking sandwich break for him to completely change his narrative. He was uh he was so hungry he's fine with genocide you know when you're that when you get you know when you're hungry. I think Alex might be uh that's a new career for him. Snickers commercials where he just changes his narratives. Oh my god that would be such a good commercial if he if they just had a president sitting in there and he's on the phone and he's he's like fine you know what go ahead bomb the shit out of him and then one of his secret service

agents handed him a Snickers and he's like you know what I think we should protect uh it even feels bad to joke about this you know because it is very serious. No it's an intense fucking tragedy that is so massive and so fucked up to the point where I am utterly against a fucking military coup but there is a point where you have to say I can't obey these orders. It's uh it's it's really tough and I think that the only like the only thing that's amusing about this is the fact that Alex flips that quick. Yeah like it seems like something that he should care about more. It seems like something that he should have a robust position on that isn't influenceable just by Joel Scousen saying you're wrong. Right right right right right that's dumb uh but hey that's not the world we

live in. Alex doesn't really have anything until he talks to one of these experts. It will be like all right here you go this is your talking point now move forward with it. Yeah okay I'll contradict myself. Sure. Anyway the 8th isn't that great of an episode it's mostly yelling about China and the South Park episode and who cares. It is weird how in the span of two days we've had such obviously evil shit happen that even the Republicans are like Jesus Christ we have to say this we're always on the wrong side and you're making us do this now. Yeah it's overwhelming. Yeah but hey man we come in on the 9th and we find out that whatever you look you think that the GOP and the Republicans are in in a bad position but that's that's not really true if you look at

real polls. The globalists are in deep trouble and the real polls show Trump 17 to 25 points ahead sure of any of the Democrats America is in love with Trump in love with the awakening they're in love with them for worse. They love them. Wow I don't like being gaslit that bad. It's real crazy. That's bad. I don't you know Alex uses real clear politics as a reference on this episode so I went and checked out there just polling data and literally every I think Pete Mayor Pete he was down one point to Trump in a head-to-head comparison. Oh man everyone get out get the fuck out get out of this race. Every single other relevant Democrat that they had polled was at least five points ahead in all like consistently and then there's

another study that came out at the beginning of this month I believe like October 3rd that was Trump is down 11 to a generic Democrat yeah just fill in the blank Democrat just so long as we don't have to Jesus Christ yeah so I don't know what real polls he's talking about but that's that's a that's that seems to be pretty well on the side of impossible. I don't know maybe he's using one of Trump's own internet polls like he couldn't he couldn't actually say that 97% of the population wants to re-elect him that's just too far even for him so I'll just say 17 to 45 points. We do know that he has a real tendency towards those unscientific internet polls and citing them as the quote-unquote real polls. If you can vote twice it's a real poll then.

But that just shows intensity and if you intensely feel something you vote for it six times that's the same as six people. That is the same yeah yeah and you're not even a undocumented immigrant Dan. Sure so Alex is on a real sort of he's feeling good on this episode okay and that's because he's how because he's right about everything. As we saw in that last episode on the 8th he was not even internally right about anything but that doesn't matter. You know they talk about the Oracle of Omaha being Warren Buffett well he always has the inside knowledge well I study history and I study facts and it really is true no one is as accurate as enforce and that's not a statement in arrogance it's a very dangerous thing because we're willing

to tell the truth most people know the truth just won't tell you hell most of you know more than I do. You don't need to be an oracle to know all this you've got to have common sense but we are at the crossroads you can use that term but there's no way to overuse it. This is it and Communist China the most evil regime in planetary history is trying to dictate the terms of our surrender and why not I mean we've capitulated to everything else we've been taught to be good little politically correct minions. Yet you did an hour on the South Park episode yesterday so I don't know I think it's definitely possible to overuse we're at the crossroads and Alex might be living proof of that yeah yeah you can overuse things like

they're making their move yeah you know you could do that you could say this is the globalist main push it's unprecedented sure that could be overused yeah yeah yeah there's not much he doesn't overuse but he's right about everything that's what's important no but that's how he feels on the ninth I don't know but it leads him to like really get into the intro music when he's coming back from that break right right from commercial break he really gets into the and you know this is one of those things where it's like yeah you we've talked about this before how like sometimes you'd be like I hate this guy but that passion is infectious this might be one of those cases okay although you might not be susceptible to it I'm not sure we'll see

and I want to come in with some original Leonard Skinner deep out of the swamps of Florida for you to remind everybody that I can't sell out I can't back down I can't turn my guns in I can't turn my kids over to pedophiles yeah there's no getting me to ever compromise but here's the deal I know you're not gonna compromise either so let's work hard in the information war it's gonna have to go the physical route but whatever happens we're gonna win this thing you can feel it you can see it and the enemy knows it let's go ahead and let them hear a couple minutes of this anthem it's time to fly free bird lord knows I can't change lord knows I can't lie to you that's why you just get true why it all comes true because let me tell you I'm not here even coming up with

this information it's just flowing through me and it's gonna flow through you and instead of getting down and angry like I do as well we got to decide to just meet Hillary and meet the globalist the Christ to win our sales and say if they want to fight I don't know how it's gonna end but they better believe they've got one let's listen to a little bit of this on this Wednesday transmission that's randy roads it's not right yeah I guess that one wasn't as good as some of the other times he's done shit like that no no it's not that it wasn't inspiring yeah it's that that's a modern day patent that yeah yeah yeah no to me that sounded more like I was at the back of a revivalist tent and there are all these people there's like a thousand people in there and I'm

watching them go apeshit for this and I'm like oh I gotta go I gotta get out of here this is a very scary place to be this is a very susceptible room yeah yeah yeah the words burn him could be said and they would at the end there you know like he he's also talking about like we're gonna give it to Hillary and I should point out that Alex is now really ramping up his Hillary is gonna run talk yeah yeah I guess Hillary gave an interview where she's talking about how Trump's really obsessed with her keeps tweeting about her and like maybe we should have a rematch yeah she shouldn't say things like that no she's not going to run no but like Alex it's like so excited about that and I think everybody in that right wing world is so excited about like she said something that

indicates that she's gonna run so now we get to get the band back together man we've already got this machine wait it's we got it in the fucking shed yeah we were hoping to break it out boom yeah so Alex is uh real excited about that and he spends a good bit of time uh ruminating in his Hillary fantasies of uh she's gonna run again plays the clip of her on that talk show a couple times and great man great great so uh we come down to a choice in our lives sure and that is that we need to either paper or plastic well what we need to do is we need to choose what team we're on not paper or plastic okay we need to choose whether we're with the globalist satans or the west right we have to choose one of those two right and Alex lays it out here and I honestly

think that this is a false dichotomy I can't choose the bears right no okay you can't choose the bears gotcha the whole world better decide are you with the globalist chai com mark of the beast authoritarian system you're gonna throw your lot in with it for better or worse for richer or poorer till death do you part or do you want to go with the ideals of the west and the renaissance and christendom and americana and everything that made us so great that everybody wants to take over and that now we become decadent and evil ourselves and we're losing do we want to go with what we know works in this race of life 800 horsepower dodge hellcat or do you want to be in a gremlin 100 horsepower vehicle that engine doesn't even start I mean it really comes down to that

those don't either sound like good choices I mean like so you've got on the one hand the globalist authoritarian satan china machine right and that of course sounds bad the way you're putting it right and then on the other side you've got the ideals of the west and the renaissance that ultimately lead to you becoming sluggish and awful or whatever you know like it it breeds decadence and then you're tell you know I think you flip those around I don't I don't think he meant I don't think he well he didn't say respectively he does he no no no he his belief is that like okay so the west is so powerful right these ideas of the west right they're so strong and breeds so much success for everybody yeah that the first generation you know makes a lot of money

and they all do really well and then the next generation they become slobs and decadent because there's so much money and then the third generation is all evil because they're used to the decadence and then the fourth generation requires a coming back to god or whatever oh okay that's I mean I would say that either of those sounds terrible like being trapped in a cycle of decadence and then strict reformation right or authoritarian nightmare I feel like there's another option is what I'm saying right I don't think that either of these are the only games in town right right we can either go on the infinite wheel of reincarnation and misery or we can go on the straight line of misery or nope there's no other option I guess the wheel one you change scenery a little bit yeah

so that might be more preferable I mean it depends on it depends on which generation you're in I suppose it's true yeah you know it's like well it's as long as you dodge that fourth one it's pretty good yeah no it's like all these guys they're they're all four fascism mainly because they assume they're gonna be in the generation that gets to enjoy fascism not the one that gets fucked over by fascism it does feel that way a little bit so Alex is realizing that he's kind of you know he's been a supporter of free speech and what have you but he realizes that you need to what we need to do is we more need to actively support free speech right sure I'm not sure exactly I'm cagey about that sense I'm not entirely sure what that's advocating for right but then he gets into I

think it's him getting back on Facebook I think that's what we're talking about if I had to choose something I would say that's probably what it is but then he gets into how like he why he believes that he is in the situation that he's in where he's not on Facebook right right and again that's because he's a threat to China and so we don't need to just say that we support people's free speech we need to actively engage in it and let Google and Facebook and Twitter and all the people trying to help China censor know that we're not submitting to them because you know they started with me 14 months ago built up a huge ad campaign more criticism of me in the last three years that China has been criticized in the news in a decade I doubt literally there's almost never

any criticism I'm criticized every day sometimes in thousands of newspapers at one time every news program lying about me why I'm seen as the Americana virus of liberty they call me a virus on CNN that could replicate and defeat them because when I'm promoting works it sells it's popular it's historical so they built up that straw man so they get people to accept this show being silenced we weren't silenced we didn't roll over and die I'm just supposed to believe that when they said it like it's a magic trick nope didn't work return to sender as Elvis would say and now it's going to be everybody it's going to be you we got to say no we're all Alex Jones now like we're all Spartacus we're all Donald Trump now we're all Matt Grudge now and we're not backing down we're not giving in

and we're saying no to the chai comms I have some weird feelings about this because what does that mean like what are you advocating for do you want like to go to war with China do you want to cut off all economic relations with China right like do you do you think that these things are like productive suggestions towards dealing with the very real issues that do exist yeah because I don't know what he's advocating for other than getting him back on Facebook right um well uh we're doing trade war that's going great uh so I suppose the next logical conclusion is regular war uh which I assume is going to go well for everybody involved Alex is an anti-intervention guy though uh well yeah but they're the globalists that's true so we have to we have to break out all

the stops to defeat the globalists I guess he probably could rationalize that yeah yeah yeah it's not military intervention Dan it's military uh invention sure how's that sounds good yeah I also have bad news about Matt Drudge a lot of people are suggesting that he is turning on Trump a little bit uh based on the fact that a lot of the stories that he's running as you know because he's just like a link aggregator more or less um a lot of the stories that he's putting up and and promoting on his site are critical of Trump right there's a change of tone because it's hard to find anything else there's a change in tone that's happening over on the old judge report uh a little bit and uh so I mean there's a cnn article you can find about that and I know that cnn's not a

really great source in alex's world now uh but there are ours in that cnn article they also talk about uh jim hoft the guy from gateway pundit yeah he even wrote an article about what the fuck is going on with matt drudge right right right like people in the right wing world are starting to notice that shift in editorial stance towards a critical one of trump yeah and if alex loses matt drudge then he can't do this anymore no no no I don't know how well like he one of the reasons I think that is because he can't throw matt drudge overboard he just can't this uh does drudge still aggregate his stuff alex's yeah I don't I don't know enough I've I don't go check out the yeah yeah that's fair but I assume that every now and again he'll have a story yeah it's linked on

there well paul joseph watson might or something drudge you'll toss him a bone every now sure I would assume that that's still in place a little bit cool but I think more importantly because of alex's narratives that he's built up over the years about how matt drudge is the only patriot still left out there he really gets it he can't look he can't let that slide like I think that that would be a bridge too far for him to cross the matt drudge has been got by the globalist or something yeah yeah like I really don't think he could do that drudge is too central to alex's world entirely for him to to turn him into a villain yeah or to like allow him to be working on the other team alex would have to migrate with drudge I think you know that's that's a fascinating

thing for that's a good position for drudge to be in because we're we're really finding out right now how just exactly how much people are are in you know like Lindsey Graham is so far in he he one of his big like one of his purviews is like let's not allow them to commit genocide let's just not do that and now he has to be like I guess we're letting him commit genocide and I can't I can say I don't agree with it but I can't say fuck this guy whereas drudge because he's a functionally like not a an interview subject or a public figure it's not voted on he's not he's not you know he has no accountability for criticizing him and he's in a unique position where he like creates so much of the tone in a lot of the conservative media sphere yeah with what he chooses to focus on

because there's so many lazy conservative hosts who just go to drudge and choose their talking points it's not hard no so but he has this relationship with the audience and the electorate I guess yeah that if he starts going towards a critical stance on Trump that allows people in congress an easier time yeah to not have to toe the line so much because the people downstream the citizens the can the consumers of these news articles will start to change along with drudge it'll become more acceptable which is also very sad yeah that's a that'll be an interesting thing to watch can you can you ramp down the propaganda because they can't they can do critical stuff but they can't do like full-on anti-trump stuff or you know drudge can't just yet so can he

can they make the transition down or has pandora's box been opened and we're just fucked you know I don't know I don't know it is it's an interesting question because the propaganda machine has been going on high since what late early 2016 whenever everybody just decided um yeah probably yeah but now it now it's like can they can they still control it and that's something that I'm really interested to find out I am too especially as like uh you know communities like the people follow queue and stuff have come along that are so outside even of a drudge bubble yeah like back in the days of like uh you know Clinton and bush uh junior uh dubia like you had a lot easier time with uh you know being sort of the disseminator of talking points right right now there's there's

so much uh diversity of crazy uh that I don't know how much like drudge could 100 percent change anything yeah or it would be even more alienating because those people aren't going to come along for that ride right so they just have two discrete worlds of like conservative notary I mean it's it's it has to splinter into so many different factions just because they in order to combat the fact that they fielded the single worst human being in history they had to turn the propaganda machine all the way up to fucking revolution you know uh radicalizing people to such an extent that they've never been able to do before uh without horrifying consequences and now because that splinter is occurring they won't they probably won't be able to put it back

you know it's just going to be four separate realities now instead of let's hope you're wrong created we'll see let's hope you're wrong it'll be interesting so um whenever alex went off air uh so to speak whenever he went off facebook and and all that apparently he sat trump some letters okay and they got delivered I guess by hand I don't know sure sure sure sure so after this alex got some death threats um and by the way he describes who threatened his life I have one suspect uh and then alex loses his goddamn mind okay instead of whining and complaining when they took me off air I said wow this is great I'm the number one news item right now I'm gonna send a direct message to the president to take action on the chai comms and I'm gonna resend all those

letters through the law firms hand delivered to the president's office and of course the chief of staff flipped out over there's a lot of stuff going on I got some big death threats had a very well-known cia individual that's overthrown governments basically call up and threaten me and I just said fill your hand do whatever you're gonna do so I believe that has to be Steve pachanic because the his overthrown governments is an epithet that is only attached to him I've ever heard in alex's show oh yeah so I wonder if Steve threatened alex's life that would be in 100 percent character for Steve I mean all this could be made up but the descriptor has overthrown governments yeah is unique to in the same way like uh rage filled Achilles in the uh in the uh

Iliad like it's uh it's very distinct to Steve yeah I mean there's yeah who else would he say it about just Steve yeah you don't think I don't know you kill people the only power I have in front of everybody and God is that I'm willing to go all the way I don't want to die but I'm committed and and I'm trying to show you the power you have as well to take action that we built this platform we were patient we knew this was coming and now we're delivering in royal flush because God did this Providence did this not alex jones not even you the audience God moved all of us to do this and that's why they're so scared but I really it was pressed on me I've been praying a lot and I woke up the last few nights the middle of the night and it was the message was

literally from God my subconscious whatever you want to call it alex you've got to talk about the fact that you are the leadership that the audience is the leadership and that we really are the remnant of americana from which the whole system can come back and you've got to declare that leadership because the enemy already knows it and has already admitted it I mean they have CIA reports coming out by the left saying jones and info wars beat us here's how we stop it so I have to let the audience know this isn't a game so God or his subconscious is telling alex that he needs to declare himself the leader now a leader I'm I'm going to go out on a limb here and I'm going to say that he thinks he has the mandate of heaven uh-huh the reason I played that clip earlier

in this episode because his behavior doesn't track with somebody who seems to think that it's crazy for pat robertson to say something like that yeah yeah yeah yeah he has a belief that God is telling him to declare his leadership role I don't know of I don't know many times that that's been uttered by people well or like in a positive sense I'm going to go to my secretary of history over here uh when somebody says they have talked to God and he has told them that he is the leader how has that gone in the past I would assume that there are a couple times like that like you know let's say there's a difficult project that needs to be done like a community garden getting built and God called me to help build this to build the community I bet there are a lot of times all right

in individuals lives okay that something like that could be expressed right in a non unhealthy way yeah someone like alex never never never I don't never I find this to be an incredibly troubling thing for him to be saying God called me to declare my I've woken up in the middle of the night and then let's not even break down the whole fucking idea of like him being like could have been God could have been my subconscious you know those are different things now with some loose up those are different things we he is his ancestors and his subconscious is God if he is expressing that he doesn't know the difference between his subconscious and God's voice not a problem it is a problem it's a big problem I don't know why because he speaks like a goddamn preacher

all the time on this show talking about God's will yeah and if that's just his subconscious desires right then he is misleading the audience into helping ascribe a religious importance to his subconscious desires yeah that's not good yeah that's a cult and he really did learn the right lessons from Waco I think that's what we're learning right there what you gotta do is declare yourself the representative of God tell people that they have to do whatever it is you say because you are their leader and that's the only lesson to learn from Waco and then on a show where it like you saying shit like this and you'd also exist in the same like the head as a guy who's like yeah you know what turkey's gonna go in and take out these curds and I don't care that's not our

problem God told me that's not a big deal that's not a problem Muslims just fight each other God said commit genocide all the time have you read the old testament he's cool with it it's deeply upsetting for someone to act like this yeah um yeah but let's uh let's take a trip down to something a little bit lighter Alex looks at a map uh of the United States don't let him and on this map you know it has all the like red areas and blue areas yeah yeah it's like hey there's not much blue on there right right right and then he gets to talking about how everybody in those blue areas like LA they're secretly libertarians sure and then Alex realizes that he watched Tombstone the night before and uh gets a little weird people like John Wayne Clint Eastwood folks like

Bruce Willis that are patriots it's really almost everybody and I'm not a liberty to get into it or talk about it because I'm not starstruck by people just because they're in movies though I did watch Tombstone again last night with my wife and I'm not gay I'm not into guys but it's kind of like that time uh kind of like that time uh the famous basketball player was on one of the late night comedy shows he's like have you seen Kevin Brady up close now I'm not gay but that's a good looking man why he walked up and talked to me and I could hardly talk I'm being sarcastic but I mean Kurt Russell did a great job in that movie and it's just cool to know that he's a listener to know he's a patriot and and that's fun stuff and Charlton Heston was a patriot

and like the show and I'm not tooting my horn it just we're all fellow travelers isn't it cool that like anybody I end up liking in Hollywood it turns out's a patriot and almost everyone else is just unwatchable so Alex thinking Kurt Russell is attractive I mean whatever that's cool that you don't have to feel weird about that Alex he's an attractive man yeah but that that part at the end there I can explain that yeah it's not that everybody he likes turns out to be a patriot it's uh that when people tell them that they like him he is uh all of a sudden a huge fan of that yeah it does seem like that that's uh Dan and I'm gonna go out on a I just want to ask you a couple of questions uh what do all of those actors have in common

hmm a number of um are old number of them are old yeah yeah yeah old men old white men right white men that's an important uh that's an important qualification there I would also argue that having a shit ton of money uh would put you more in the agreeing with Alex Jones do we know if John Wayne liked Infowars uh no we don't uh but John Wayne was uh reportedly uh a man who uh was gay so and might have liked Infowars yeah that's true yeah I I just think it's so awesome like the these sorts of like presentations the the thing the idea that he's saying like you know everyone you know I just I could see that these people are patriots and I'm fans of them and then I learned that they're secretly fans of mine it's like I just it's it's so reinforcing everyone else sucks

no you just don't like people who don't like you yeah great I want to know I have one question and that is is it specifically mustache Kurt Russell it's tombstone it's that's what I'm saying right Kurt Russell in tombstone had a glorious mustache sure what about Sam Elliott then right does he want to Sam Elliott a patriot I don't know I don't know we got to learn we got to find this out what about big trouble in little china whenever he had the whenever he had the hair inquiring minds want to know absolutely so um Alex gets into talking about a new pjdubs article they'd get ready for next episode's question being what's your favorite Kurt Russell I'm not sure I have a favorite Kurt Russell escape from LA maybe yeah escape from New York I don't know

know look Paul Joseph Watson's written a new article sure and they've decided that they have their way their their decision about how to deal with china and it's interesting the polls put out a tweet that I'm asking everybody to get out there and retweet and share or rewrite yourself with your own thoughts because this is the maximum this is throwing down the gauntlet it's time for americans to announce every corporation that caves in or refuses to announce china these corporations trash american values then openly embrace and tower to china's dictatorship for profit it's clear who their leader is it's not trump it's ggp there's nothing like cn flames throwing truth stopping out on the battlefield I am old enough to

remember when uh Alex and pjw specifically constantly decried people using boycotts right the particularly they attacked people like Ilhan Omar and those folks for the the idea of an Israeli boycott yeah they have been very consistently anti boycotts when it's politically expedient for them or you know whatever but now aha we've figured it out everyone boycott china right they really can't just deal with uh the truth uh they just can't there's no way that they can engage with the reality of this situation which is or or be their leader is not month or their leader is not g gping it is money and china has money that they would like to have uh and that's it so they will do whatever it takes they are a corporation their entire job is to make as

much money as they can yeah so perhaps the issue is not with the leaders and more with the system that forces them to kowtow that is the most explanatory easiest explanation for everything yeah and then they would have to say well maybe there is maybe there's one negative effect of capitalism and then their whole game is over right and and to be clear like i'm saying this is like like manifestly inconsistent uh based on alex and paul's behavior over the course of the time that i've been watching right but like hey i i'm not necessarily totally opposed to the idea of like some sort of targeted china boycotts sure like i i if that's the strategy you guys want to take yeah fine i i'm good on you yeah um but they're not willing or they can't resist the urge to make

cheap political points when other people use the same strategies yeah that they would seek to use themselves yeah and that to me is a real problem that uh that to uh that to everyone should be a real problem right the fact that it's not a problem to them is troubling speaking of troubling yeah alex gets to talking about how like you know some of these people in trump's orbit sound a lot like him but he can only ever really come up with one example yeah and it might be the worst one the military and the police not just here but around the world and the white house you listen to those speeches steven miller's writing you listen to what other leaders around the world are saying it's word for where we're laying out because everybody knows you go to the

oracle at delphi in Greece and there's just a bunch of poison gas coming out of the ground and so people start hallucinating and thinking they're talking to god no ladies and gentlemen this isn't an oracle this is research and focus and studying the cfr and studying the globalist and then putting that template out over the world which is the real template within 15 minutes prior to this 20 minutes prior he was talking about god talking to him and telling him he needs to take a leadership position and maybe it was his song subconscious this is ludicrous absolutely and why you gotta take down the oracle at delphi absolutely what the hell is going on you know what they would just go and there's poison gases that make them hallucinate i was stuck under a

house that was being fumigated and now i think god is telling me that it's a one to one yeah it's you can't i don't i don't know i mean i guess you can i guess it just does work but it seems so awful to exist in the same space a show where you're saying that god is telling you to do things and then you're maligning other people who believe god is telling them to do things it's very strange well you just explained why religion is bad you're you're god is stupid come on 72 virgins in heaven my god's gonna give me a house idiot it's the same phenomenon as the the boycotts thing it's the same it's the same thing ours good everyone else bad yep not realizing you're trying to do the same thing it's cheating yeah and it's it's it's absolutely infuriating

that they always get away from it and they always get away with it and they win it's infuriating that said alex is probably pretty close to right on when he's saying that steve miller sounds like him oh no that's true that's true uh he did that's not good though he did choose the worst white supremacist uh in the entire organization i would imagine i wonder if alex told him to do that spray on hair thing uh probably you look weak bald so alex gets into some science issues maybe that was a pilot product for him he's a brain head force it'll grow it'll make it look like your hair grew steve we need you to buzz market the new product get out there you look great so it's science corner time alex has got some bad news oh no about the flu shot oh boy everything we do here is common sense

you know year after year for the last 40 years or so i have studies right here mainline news the flu gets worse every year well of course it does all the studies say when you take a flu shot it lowers your immunity to other flus by 50 percent three flu shots consecutively over three years is known to trigger Alzheimer's and dementia in people above the age of 65 don't believe me go look it all up that's what's so frustrating oh and now this year will be the most deadly ever so he's just making this shit up yeah if you consult the cdc statistics on uh flu seasons even if you just look at the years between 2010 and 2018 you see a lot of up and down a lot of it's really fluid you know some seasons are worse some aren't as bad yeah there's a lot of variables now as for that

Alzheimer's thing that's not supported by any actual science according to a paper in the canadian medical academy journal from 2001 which was just writing up of a study that looked at exactly this possible correlation in senior citizens they found quote after adjustment for age sex and education past exposure to vaccines against diphtheria and tetanus uh polyomyelitis and influenza was associated with a lower risk for Alzheimer's disease than no exposure to these vaccines this is only one such study that found that there may be indications that getting a flu shot annually actually decreases your risk for dementia but these studies are all clear to point out that the results can't definitively say that there's a causal relationship right right right

anyway the point is that alex what he's saying is 100 not uh supported by anything real he's just making shit up yeah but these are talking points that go around no of course of course absolutely not true i don't i don't i don't understand the framework of any study that would be centered around three years of consecutive flu vaccines as though that is like why would you choose three why wouldn't you choose a longer period of time or i'm guessing just seems such a stupid alex made that up yeah he had to have made that up yeah probably so but it's not just him that's anti these shots man sure it's everybody certainly there's even celebrities who are anti i don't care and then two fox sports hosts go yeah we both took the flu shot last year when they pushed it on us

they're almost killed us they they talked about on the radio they go on tv and say i'm not taking a flu shot what about you know everybody i know that takes it gets it i'm never taking it again ooh they need to be fired those dirty americans open their fat mouths about yeah we both took it last year when they pushed it on us we got sick so what he's talking about here is a conversation uh that shannon sharp and skipp bailis had on their show undisputed ah sharp he made a joke about how the only shot the arizona cardinals had that season is a flu shot he then said that he had not gotten a shot when he was offered one at cvs which isn't the same thing as fox making him get one at all when you really get down to it yeah skipp bailis then said that quote i took one flu

shot in my life and immediately got the flu i did that was the last one so it seems like he's not saying that fox forced him to get a shot either it seems like those parts of the story are things alex is just making up in order to make this sound good yeah all this is nonsense yeah i also just a dumb conversation that shannon sharp and skipp bailis had that alex is misrepresenting to make a different point that's i look i don't i refuse to engage with somebody who is quoting two titans of takes and skip fucking bailis and shannon sharp sure great i don't give a fuck what they have to say about literally anything and that includes sports that includes sports all right those two idiots are stupid i think uh i think it's interesting because what you have is the

kernel of something real in terms of like this was a conversation where they were critical of vaccines yeah no but that's not good enough for alex he has to turn it into a thing where fox forced them both to get a shot last year they both got sick and now they're never going to take it again when in reality only one of them referenced getting the flu after getting the shot right which there's a better explanation for than whatever skip bailis is coming up with yeah and then shannon sharp was just saying i didn't get one you just you just explained skip bailis's whole career there's a better explanation than what skip bailis came up with yeah so in this next clip man um alex is talking about how he's right about everything which seems to be a theme

on the shows because god you know right right right subconscious mandate of heaven so alex is uh you know he'll reference in particular alien uh or not alien too used to project camelot uh animal human hybrids yes chimerics he's totally right about all that the fish people with sad human eyes of course um and i'm not so interested in that uh stuff because i know that he's not engaging with the real science and he's creating sci-fi weirdo uh devil fantasies about all this spider guts i am interested in this clip though because i think what it demonstrates is that alex is still really mad about something that happened to him in the long uh distant past okay so it's all out in the open now every major topic we hit because it's already out there human

animal hybrids that was that was in mit research 23 years ago i was on air listeners would mail me stuff because they never saw it on the news but it was in white papers so they would get me to cover it and listeners would go oh he's crazy i'd have people come to me in grocery stores and stuff and go and pizza places go you're a lie there's no human animal hybrids i had a guy conan's pizza push me he'll actually push me he was obviously drunk he goes i went to ut at biology degree there's no such thing as animal human hybrids you liar and i said how long ago did you go to ut i had 1979 i graduated i said get out of my face before i kick your ass we got one i was like yeah this isn't a simulation i said put your hands on me again i'm gonna break your neck and it's not

that i'm a tough guy that's that happened though does he push me i'm at the counter he pushes me and i let him do that i turned around and i said you're an idiot i'm about to beat your ass i said i'm about to break your neck which i shouldn't have done but the point is is that what is the point there's a bunch of ignorant people that live in la la land and they're scared by those of us that actually research things oh that's the point oh that's the point i didn't realize that was the point i think the point is that he's mad about someone pushing him in a pizza place 20 years ago i'm pretty sure the point is he's very mad about somebody pushing him in a pizza place 20 years ago yeah maybe unduly mad and it was a

perfect place to push somebody it's conan's pizza yeah yeah that's what you have to you have to behave like a barbarian in a conan's pizza it seems like it's on brand yeah absolutely it's like how that the outback there's no rules yeah just right um at conan's you gotta be a barbarian you gotta be a barbarian and a conqueror yes you gotta conquer your hunger you do have to conquer your hunker i just find things like this you know this is along the same lines as the uh like hey the clip won't play i'm happy about that yeah like it's just no big deal just a real under the surface severe anger yeah that creeps out every now and again look and i'm no stranger to holding inexplicable grudges sure i'm fine with totally but 20 years is too long especially for something

this trivial yeah yeah yeah a guy pushed one time sure yeah uh let it go alex let it go so uh in this next clip he talks about uh you know we get more of this religious imagery uh surrounding trump which again is something that is apparently chinese in nature so i don't know why alex is doing this trump's the most truthful president i've ever seen in my lifetime it's dizzying how they spin everything he's a liar and i'm persecuted for supporting trump i don't just get up here because paychecks are coming from trump i support trump because compared to hillary clinton he's the second coming i mean you know i mean it's she's the second coming of satan here folks so he's the second coming compared to hillary it's the same

thing it's still just uh religious savior messages yeah we don't we don't have to keep comparing him to hillary we can just we can let that go as well well no he's doing that because she is now throwing her head back in the ring so it's totally relevant to talk about her all the time jesus but i mean he doesn't need that excuse obviously he still talks about her all the goddamn time um as do they all but i think wistfully i believe it's just it's just interesting to me like this uh this this level of taking such offense at pat robertson's comments for the reason that you have laid out that is the mandate of heaven is a uh is chinese communist influence creeping into america right and then you go ahead and just use very similar uh terminology

yeah uh imagery surrounding uh him in the other direction it's it's nonsense yeah it is very much like his real issue is with the mandate of heaven being a traditional uh a traditional thought process in in chinese history no not not that if pat robertson had said he has no heaven if pat robertson had said had said he is no longer supported by god alex would find a different way to hate him his approach would be the same because it's mandate of heaven he gets to be like ah it's the chinese now if pat robertson had said that trump retains the mandate of heaven this wouldn't be a conversation helix would absolutely care about it at all no there are an infinite number of ways that this could play out yeah but just because it's mandate of heaven

it's just that pat robertson's out of pocket and alex doesn't like that and the uh term that he used is traceable back to uh chinese tradition and so that's the best way to go about this you got it easy stupid one to one so on our on one of our recent episodes about the present day alex was doing a uh black friday comes early sale yes which makes sense my position on that was well that's a bad sign yeah this isn't uh this isn't a good thing um it turns out it was a great thing okay compared to his new sale sure also we had to end the uh 50 off store wide on the storeable foods and stuff like that and a lot of the items but we've brought in and everything must go sale because things are so crazy i'm not going to sit on any of our inventory we have a lot of

new things that come back into stock around christmas right before christmas but a lot of things aren't coming back in till two three four months in the next year because you gotta they gotta go wild source it you gotta have the order in it's gotta be ready it's gotta be produced and it comes to you that's just gut level i've decided to sell everything out um and we're selling it at 40 to 70 off even hot best sellers oh boy some of these are at cost and i've just decided to move everything out so that we have cash uh in our operations no matter what happens to continue battling forward probably six months in the next year we can go further than that but i am i am i am transferring everything into liquid fuel for major launch operations i'm following my gut so this sale

probably on many items is the biggest ever uh and it's the enforce uh everything must go total super supreme mega sale i don't think i have many connotations that are good for everything must go sales the only the only business that can sec can successfully sustain an infinite everything must go is mattresses right i didn't think those can i don't know that's certainly one of the places you see that sign a lot all that no there was one in uh in logan square that i remember walking by over and over and over again for two years at least that had the everything must go sign in it always fine well i think it's never anybody in there i think you might see those signs that let's say i don't know a halloween pop-up store in november third that one will go um you might i

don't think that most places that are doing well have an everything must go sale furniture places everything must go not a good time car dealerships when they want next year's model yeah you know yeah yeah uh or they're just trying to scam people right right everything must go is not a term that uh i i feel like alex would be aware enough of that that like this looks bad yeah maybe he's gotten really into marie condo it could be yeah and he's just trying to yeah he's just got so much in the he's trying to really find out what products he resonates with i don't know based on all of this i don't think anything sparks joy no but also according to him period all of these products are selling out so there's not much clutter in that warehouse i don't know i don't know as always

this is you know speculative and alex is full of shit all the time so i'm not gonna put too much stake into anything like this but i do feel like he has to know that his audience like no matter what they believe is true no matter what they he can talk them into i think everybody who's alive understands that an everything must go sale is very close to a going out of business yeah oh yeah very much and that connotation isn't something you necessarily want to put into people's minds it kind of gives a feeling of surrender inevitability yeah yeah yeah i don't know i if i were alex i would have chosen a different name yeah yeah i would go with the uh one last car wash to save the rec center sale sure that one would work there's all kinds of movies you must

have seen yeah good reference dance party to save the yeah yeah so uh that's going out to break and alex comes back into break with uh everybody wants to rule the world that song right it gets really wistful for him he gets very sentimental wow i mean tears for fears does that's just about everybody this is a fucking weird uh little little trip down alex's brain jing war on corruption it's alex jones welcome to your life there's no turning back i could listen to an album of that nine ten years old this song came out remember sitting there at the local neighborhood pool looking at the women the moms i wasn't looking at the teenage girls okay thinking those look really

good what i'm telling that story right now uh but yeah don't tell me that story ever this is a family show do not tell me that story there's a family show jordan it was nine or ten and i was listening to tears for fears trying to bang moms yeah why am i telling this story why am i telling this story that's a good question alex weird you're very weird that is something i don't want to hear from anybody very strange yeah so um alex gets into uh some more china business and uh this clip doesn't really matter too much except for the end of it because it demonstrates uh real ineffectiveness in alex's ability to incorporate information that he gets in real time yeah when his staff pulls up information and like puts it on the document cam and stuff like that he ends up

seeing things but he's not able to process what he's seeing at all and that leads him to say things perhaps over confidently and uh uh gloatingly that are not true the company that's controlling the mba and china ten cent they're the ones that bought reddit for a hundred and fifty million we're saying call it buying it but they run it and that's when they ban the donald they run chinese state run thing buys the buys reddit and bans donald trump's number one website more impressions than his twitter account we're just gonna let the chai comms do that unbelievable yeah now it's uh i'm sorry i said 150 million now it's even more wow i guess that's i missed that i guess it's 300 million that they bought it for wow on top of the 150 million i guess

it's 450 million it just keeps growing i'm sorry i've got my numbers wrong it's worse than i'm saying here excuse me that's completely not true they'd pulled up a headline that said the 10 cent led a round of investment they invested 150 million but the total amount invested by everyone in that round of funding was 300 million right there was 150 million from other sources with 10 cent being the lead investor in the session yeah that's a completely different thing and that is the 150 it's not in addition to that 150 that they invested making it 450 million dollars and they didn't buy ready you couldn't buy reddit for 150 million no you can buy out of here it's a three billion dollar company nah it's 150 no no well okay they didn't say they bought it but they put in 150 million

of we're going to run your three billion dollar company money it's five percent ownership if it was a strict buying a stake right right right but it is a control of the board five percent control yes certainly this is hot bullshit yeah but what i what i want to make perfectly clear is the way that alex doesn't care about anything it's just the optics the optics need to be the 10 cent is running this so oh my god there's a 300 million number with 10 cent in the headline yeah that's got to be 300 million more that they put in he is in fact check any of this he doesn't say later like oh i'm sorry i got that wrong yeah it is the 150 million it was a round of investment it was other firms that also joined in yeah this is such bullshit you know who put in 750 million well i know that

who is it snoop dog is a big investor but i don't think that much close what's that 50 cent oh okay tears for fears vitamin water 50 cent is involved really i think so i have no idea anyway it's a present day episode jordan so you know what that means we've got to talk to robber barns barns is on how is barns on he's always on he is he is never far away from an info wars microphone what a mother so barns comes in they want to talk about this whistleblower situation and donald trump's troubles sure they want to inside a ride i assume i don't even want to really talk about his appearance because it's super boring yeah i just want to play this clip because i think that this isn't something good to hear from a lawyer it's only obstruction

when you have someone doing something illegal to oppose the process doing something illegal is entirely inappropriate in fact what you're supposed to do in an adversarial process so i believe what that robert barns is saying is that you have to commit a crime in order to obstruct justice right which is not the case from my reading of the definition yes i'm not a lawyer right but i believe that you can do legal things in order to obstruct an investigation that then become illegal yes that is how it works so i don't know if i look okay so just because you murdered a guy doesn't mean that it was that it's illegal as long as you murdered him legally right i guess so that's his argument and it makes perfect sense i guess so all right i'm coming around i think

it's a good one i think he's a great lawyer dad i find that to be a red flag and i want him to be a judge and frankly supreme court wouldn't be a surprise if he became one put him on the supreme court yeah that's what i want great legal minds so barns is on and they're talking about all this stuff and in the middle of it alex announces that he's having another guest on and it's uh william benny the former technical head of the nsa oh great and the way he announces this is pretty interesting all right the former technical head of the national security agency william benny who is recognized as the greatest code record in us history a super mathematician genius uh probably smarter than the guy that broke the enigma code who was a genius uh over in england

and and of course i mean i don't get excited about lebron james or you know roger stovak i mean it's interesting it's cool i like watching those names sometimes i mean i can i think that's cool athletic prowess but super mathematicians and stuff or you know people that can call things way ahead that's what i'm into that's what i get giddy about that's what makes me excited and people that have courage to tell the truth and who are real leaders and who are trying to build a better world who aren't chicken you know what's chicken you know what dimension people who live in the chicken s h dash t dimension you're just want to keep people down and they're upset by other people's success those of us that love

justice and love god aren't like that but the bad people they're all over the place they are like that and we and we've got to stand up to them speaking of standing up to them we can't do it if you don't support us financially there it was and you've really come through smooth there it was smooth that was a good one um so william benny is like really right about everything sure he was a big seth rich truther uh guy so he that's one strike he did the math dan uh-huh he did it wrong well he did the math that is a possible thing you he admitted that he was but he did do the math sure and then of course who could forget about the time that he came on alex's show around the time of the devon nunya's memo right and he claimed that he had a copy of the memo it was alex reported on air

and they read from and it turned out to not be the devon nunya's no it was it was no it was not it was a public document that uh they were passing off as one yeah i would say that's two strikes third strike being on alex's show so i do not care about this dude i do like a a a a a a a a a a a a alex's two uh categories of person for for which he becomes speechless mathematicians and profits well he's saying that because barns is still there and barns is a notorious political gambler oh okay now i got it that's why he's saying people who can call things way in advance got you got you that's him trying to be like barns you're cool too what a fucking idiot yeah so i don't really particularly care too much about what william biddy's bringing to the table why not you can kind of

guess what it is it's just everything is a grand conspiracy against trump the deep states doing all of this shit right um i i feel like with the seph rich stuff i don't really i don't view you as someone worth my time even looking into what you're talking about nope and then with the uh the nunez memo thing that was an intentional fraud that was being passed off on alex's show yeah you're disqualified in many ways from my consideration right right and so bill binny gets uh sent off to the dustbin of propagandists right which is why he will have a uh show on uh after hanity in two months perhaps so he'll replace shep smith on the unboxed is i could see it yeah no kidding i don't know if benny's got it though i don't know if he has the charisma no no charisma he doesn't have uh that uh

the genus like wow that x-factor yeah exactly yeah or he's just ugly on tv that's also possible and we can tell that he doesn't have that uh that spark here in this last clip because alex is in the this is kind of you know where we're gonna we're signing off they do talk for a couple more minutes after this and then mike adams takes over the show but as alex is ranting about the globalists and how they just want to destroy everything something goes terribly wrong and then as soon as they get control they immediately just ram the ship onto the beach wrecking everything thinking that they just have a right to do it because they were in that position of power when clearly they're breaking the law and then now 20 years later they think they can remove a president

this isn't 1974 they're not getting away with it and as they go from being arrogant to now being scared it makes them even more dangerous yes hello what the fuck just happened no no hello i think we lost the circuit oh my god oh it was beautiful keep saying hello please keep saying it one more time over the music say it one more time we had some issues there but we're gonna come back and finish up a william benny we've been having a lot of problems but we're gonna fix it well they're right back on the other side hour number four five more minutes william benny then mike adams is coming in that's uh wow i hate to say it that's unprecedented wow that is alex's mic turned off incredible that is so good somebody

accidentally hit a cough button on alex or something right in the middle of her ring at leaving bill binny high and dry and that's why i don't think he has the juice to host his own show so all he could do is say hello hello that's very weird the idea of the the will be right back technical difficulties music playing and then just over that being hello hello hello is anybody there yeah i mean this is kind of i mean there's a surreal side no no it is not there's there's a surreal aspect to this and like that is pretty bizarre um but like ultimately i i don't find a ton of inspiration in the present day i i do think if you listen to these episodes there is like a lot going on in the real world yeah and there's a lot of very serious issues and some of

them are touched on by alex like the china stuff irresponsibly and stupidly absolutely then you have stuff like uh the situation in in syria um and that's very serious and very real like that requires immediate action on people's parts yeah and you have alex dismissing it without even considering any of the variables like this isn't withdrawing troops this isn't the thing that i'm presenting it as i just i just think that so much of this is is very uninspired yeah and also very predictable yeah like so much of it is like with the trump stuff like any piece of news could come out regarding the ukraine uh and he's just gonna say this is all about biden yep you know you could you can have that anything happens in the world it's china's fault china sucks i'm

right about china i'm the king of china yeah and it's just it's there are interesting trends that i'm interested in following like we talked about like the idea of what happens if drudge leaves the team like that's interesting but in terms of like big stuff like it's just you go in and you expect to find an interesting take or a position or like is alex going to like his principles should lead him to abandon trump over uh the turkey and syria thing absolutely it it it really should especially considering how severely he took uh the bombing yeah when he got drunk on air and screamed trombone ices up our dirty assholes yeah like you would really think that this would be sort of a like well there's no explanation for this that's acceptable but it's

not it's it's it's nothing to him it just moves forward with his dumb bullshit it is it is kind of born out i think what we talked about almost at the very beginning which is that he has to exist in opposition to power he can't exist as a propagandist for it it's just it's just too bullshit yeah and you try like the the globalist deep state everybody is sure they're overpowered and you know we we have the the presidency the senate the courts supreme court like you know but still wear the victims and the the little guys yeah you can try that and it probably works for a bit for a while but the illusion falls off eventually and especially when especially when it's this comically inept and evil and you have no um connection to your former uh adversarial positions

yeah when you're the things that you would criticize the other side about your absolutely advocate derelict in your duty or just you've given up or forgotten or whatever well he's he's come to just playing pure team sports yeah the oh trump did this that means it's good i don't need to think about it i all i'm gonna do is i'm just gonna make up shit to defend him anyway so i don't even need to have any critical analysis and he doesn't need to even really work on any spin he just lies about it whereas in opposition to power he can find some angle to attack it's much easier to bullhorn yeah absolutely oh yeah yeah yeah it's uh it's i mean it's it's pointless he's just he doesn't have anything worth doing yeah and then there's

another dynamic too that is like sort of this um ratcheting up of tension and then sort of letting that go and then ratcheting it back up because on other sort of more recent episodes that we've gone over you see like a real intensity towards uh civil war yeah and stuff like that and you know i i think that's still living in the background of these episodes but it's certainly not as much of a fever pitch or as much of a focus for him right and i think that there's a strategy to that too like uh like you know like having people go on that ride that roller coaster of intense uh this is a real threat it's an immediate threat this is happening it's inevitable and then like yeah i'm right about everything china sucks ray i like to look at old women at the pool when i was a

kid yeah i mean i can i can see that being intentional uh i would say also based on it's based on his erratic mood swings totally you know so i would say that there's a combination of both and they happily dovetail into one where he doesn't even need to think about yeah i think it's less intentional and more just a like this is what he ends up doing yeah and then he doesn't really consider the effect that might have had on people yeah and uh you know like yeah we just move on yeah i don't care that i was just yelling about a civil war let's uh let's get on to other issues like boycotting china and trying to make excuses for uh trump's ridiculous foreign policy yeah and it fucks up i i can't imagine being a regular listener because just the the clips that you

know you share with me it fucks up my sense of value like there's so many things where i'm like shit a civil war and and so much all of this shit and i don't know what's valuable and what's what we need to how we can even perform triage on any of this shit yeah like we're fighting on all fronts and i don't know all of them are equally important and equally unimportant in in his context so it's always it's always difficult divorcing yourself from that reality of like yeah no this is uh fucked up you know yeah it's uh it's gotta be weird yeah it's gotta be weird believe him yeah and it's it's it's like i can't i don't support anybody nobody is doing good things in any position of power it's so infuriating like oh man china they have they have fucking

death camps they're exterminating their muslim population that's fucked up and then you're like well the united states has fucking death camps and we're exterminating populations so i don't fucking care like i don't know every everybody's fucked it's very it's very difficult to to respond to this with any kind of semblance of sanity yeah i agree it's becoming increasingly more so yeah but uh it it's what you gotta do yeah it's a struggle yeah it's worth it yep um and uh we'll be back one day absolutely uh but until then we have a website hello oh i see what you're doing hello i was very worried there for a second i thought you'd had a stroke no no no uh it's knowledgefight.com yeah we're also on twitter we are on twitter it's at knowledge underscore fight

net go to bet jordan that's correct also on facebook we are on facebook and if you would like to listen to the podcast please go to itunes download review share go to wherever you listen to podcasts and do the same we would like to uh you know have other people sure uh but until we're back uh i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i am the everything must go sale andy in chansas you're on the air thanks for holding hello alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you