Knowledge Fight - #357: October 16, 2019

Episode Date: October 18, 2019

Today, Dan and Jordan stick around the present day to see what's happening on The Alex Jones Show. In this installment, the gents find Alex announcing that he's had an epiphany about how to defeat the Globalists, which is only slightly undercut by his lack of an actual plan and his constant childish/mentally unwell behavior.

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Dan. Jordan. Have you ever played a regional card game? Did you guys have one when you were growing up? Like we played Euker. Oh, sure. Yeah. I know a lot of people from the Detroit-ish area.

I'm thinking of one guy in specifically. A lot of people. Who loves Euker. I don't know. I don't know if it's regional, but there was a card game called Dutch Blitz. That my family is really big into. Never heard of that. It's a Mennonite card game.

Okay. My parents. My dad comes from a Mennonite family. Right. And I guess my mom is just joined up. Joined up with the team? She's a Mennonite wonk. She went to a Mennonite college is where they met.

Oh, okay. Even though she wasn't like from Mennonite communities. But yeah, it's a Dutch Blitz is pretty fun. It's a really high, high, fast paced, high intensity game. Yeah. Card game where you're trying to stack numbers on top of it. It's crazy. Oh, you're stacking numbers.

It's not like a trick game where you're winning hands or anything like that. No, it's, it's really intense and it leads to fights. It's the monopoly of card games. It's really, there's a lot of accusations of cheating. It's, it's never a good time. Yeah. It's a fun game, but it really gets out of hand, especially because it's always families playing together.

Naturally. So blood feuds come up out of nowhere. You'll use two hands. It's no good. A resentment. Yeah. But on the box, it does say that it is a wonderful Goote game. Oh no.

It's harkens back to these Dutch roots. So it's Pennsylvania Dutch, not just Dutch. Oh boy. It's fun though. Dutch Blitz is great. Everyone should go check it out. Give it a shot. Yeah.

This is a podcast where I know a lot about Dutch Blitz and the crises that come from playing it. And I know a lot about Alex Jones. I don't know anything about either. Nope. So Jordan, today we are in the present day a little bit. I had a bit of a struggle trying to figure out what we were going to cover on today's episode.

Yeah. I went through a lot of options. Right. I tried to find something in the wacky Wednesday Canon and did not, I came up empty. Yeah. I considered covering a spat, a very public spat that Alex Jones had with a noted anti-Semite Owen Benjamin. Sure.

Who used to be one of his employees. Sure. Sure. He did good things about Hitler. Now that's troublesome. Yeah. I don't know who to support in that public spat. Neither.

Yeah. This is an alien versus predator situation. Whoever wins, we die. Yeah. So I considered that, but I started listening to Owen Benjamin's live streams about Alex and I realized that as much as he is calling him like a drunken and idiot, which is fun, right, he's also saying some really, really fucked up stuff that doesn't have any place on this show.

Naturally. Naturally. So I figured like that's no good. So I decided, let's stay around in the present day. So today we're going to be looking at October 16th, 2019. I think this is a really messed up episode of Alex's show. So I actually do think it is worthwhile for us to go over it, even if we just did do a present day episode on Wednesday.

I still think there's a different, a different vibe, a different, different thing you're seeing here. He's not depressed and hungover. He may be a little bit depressed, but it's, it's weird. I think that we're seeing some real dangerous trends that I think a lot of people would be wise to pay attention to, uh, for what they, what they suggest may come in the future or tend. Yes.

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click on the button that says, support the show. We would appreciate it. It'd be lovely. All right, Jordan. Let's get down to business. Yay. So before we do, though, here's an out of context drop from today's show.

I kind of like Trump's butt now. That means I'm gay. Woo. Uh, I mean, I only have one question for you, Dan. What's that? Why? Woo. That's why.

Okay. I'd play that clip despite its stupidity because I want to know how this show is going to end. That's the sort of mode he's in at the end. Lecivously? Well, it's going to end in this dumb fucking around nonsensical like, hey, I like Trump's butt. Am I gay because of it?

Right. Right. Right. That sort of bullshit is where we're going to end. Right. It begins with, let's kill all the libs. Not far off. Yeah.

Okay. Of course. It's mostly important to play that. I think to like, because as we get started with the episode, the tone is so completely different. And to know that that's where it's heading. Yeah. I think add some sort of value.

Okay. So we started off with Alex being very grandiose about the beginning of his show. Like his show has like this real sincere, very serious message and purpose today. And just a minutes ago, I was in the control room standing over one of the riders. Oh my God.

That's terrible. So a headline to today's live show. We put a page out every day that has the live feed posted right there. If you don't have to go to band.video or info wars.com for its last show, it's easy to share that way. And it thematically says what the broadcast deals with. And there's a quote from me up there saying,

this will be the most important broadcast I've ever done. Okay. And it will be the most important broadcast I've ever done in 25 years on here. If I can just execute laying out the information in a calm, reasoned way. Okay. So much for the days.

Yeah. So much for that. So much for the days after the Boston bombing too. And this was the most important broadcasts I've ever done. And my career, I guess this trumps that. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty good.

And we're gonna have to stop emulate at the end of the episode for it to be the most important broadcast. Nope, he just dicks around with Stargon of a cop yelling a bunch of dumb bullshit. All right. So that's again where we end the episode. Right.

So Alex, this is the most important broadcast ever if he's able to focus and execute his plan. Right. And you might be asking him like why what makes it the spoiler alert. It's not the most important broadcast ever that I mean, that should be implied,

why is this day so important? And thankfully Alex does have an answer for that. I've talked a lot about how I've been very frustrated the last few months on air and off air. Yeah. And how my mind's been working like a splinter inside of it. Wanting to find the lever to defeat the globalists and knowing that it was hiding in plain view,

but that my conscious mind simply couldn't grasp it. And then last night as I was laying in bed at about midnight after I've been up here co-hosting with the debates, the fourth round of Democrat debates in Westernville, Ohio, it hit me. And then I just had great restful sleep until I woke up at

6am this morning and I woke up refreshed and knew the mission that needed to be carried out. This is real weird. Yeah. Alex has known how to defeat the globalists. He figured it out. He had a epiphany. Oh,

you know what else could feel like a splinter in your brain? What's that? A tumor. Maybe he has a tumor. Yeah. That's a possibility. I don't know. So he's got,

he's had this epiphany. He's figured out what we got to do. It's been in plain view. I couldn't accept it. Sure. This is, this is going to end bad. Yeah.

Like whatever, whatever your plan is, it's either going to be the most disappointing trite thing ever. Yeah. Or it's going to be, we got to kill everyone. Yeah.

Yeah. You know, the way he's, the way he's, like, hey, you know what? It's super easy, but we just couldn't bear to see the, the solution.

It's like, uh-oh. You know what I realized? I realized that we need to live in the now guys. We spend too much time worrying about the past and the future. We need to live in the now. And the now says, murder everyone.

It does feel like it could be anywhere on that spectrum. Yeah. From trite self-help to overtly like it's war time. Yeah. Yeah. Or just God is going to be good or whatever. Sure. Yeah.

That's for sure. Um, so I, I don't, I, I didn't know where this was going to go. And as he keeps talking, we learned that I guess defeating globalists involves a ritual or something. I'm not tired of Buddhism. This is a little confusing. Then this morning,

all the blood was pumping through my brain when I was working out. I achieved Oh no. That vision of understanding that I knew others will achieve when they carry out this ritual. Uh, sacrifice. And then I realized that this is what the enemy fears more than anything. And this is what night and day they work to make sure you never discover.

So we're not specific at this point at all. No, I have no idea what you're talking about. My mind is reeling when I'm listening to this. I'm like, I am, I am on the edge of my seat because like this is, I'm, I'm so used to being disappointed by Alex. Sure. I don't care if I get excited and then it's a let down. Yeah.

That doesn't affect me too much. It's just like, Oh, once again, Alex, you're right. Right. Um, but I was like, what is he going to advocate for? Like, cause the way he's building this up, this is the most important show I've ever done. I had an epiphany on the easy way to defeat the globalists. It's a, it's a ritual.

And the globalists are afraid of me talking about this ritual. Like, oh man, this could go so many bad directions. You see that viral photograph of all the blood in that basement or whatever. He must have. He's like, that's the ritual we need to do. Pour blood into everyone's basements. Probably saw something. Yeah.

Who knows? Anyway, in this next clip, he sort of negates most of his career. Naturally. And it says that it's all child's play compared to what, what we're going to do now. All of my previous work is child's play, nothing but preparatory events, setting the stage for what's going to come.

And you are the answer. You hold the power. When like a plant, you turn your face towards God. So at this point, I'm starting to think that maybe it's just about accepting Jesus. Yeah. Yeah. I'm starting to think that this is all just like a really dramatic call to, to come down and, and, you know, have a,

he's just like a guy at like a, what do they call them? The, the tent. The revivals. Yeah. He's just, it's just that. That's kind of where my head's at now as I'm listening to. The ritual is baptism. More or less.

Regular, regular old baptism. It must be. That's basically where my head's at. Yeah. I'm listening to this. This is just, you didn't have much to talk about. Right. You probably weren't paying attention to the debates.

So you don't really have anything to cover there other than yelling your normal stuff about Elizabeth Warren and Bernie and, you know, blah, blah, blah. I don't blame him for not paying attention to the debates. Sure. Fine. But you have a different job than him. Yeah. That's true.

His job is supposed to be a news man. He's just rambling about, we could, I had an epiphany that we could defeat the globalist by accepting Jesus. Isn't that something you've been saying for a long time? Yeah. Yeah, that sounds about right. It doesn't seem like this is the fruit of an epiphany. It seems very much just a performance that he's putting on here.

It's a tree in the river that's covered in blood that we have to do because Thomas Jefferson and there's a wilting aspect or something. Yeah. But at this point, it's still not entirely sure. Like, you know, the clues that I'm getting from context lead me to believe he's just going to be like, so we accept Jesus. Yeah. Yeah.

But he's not been specific. You know, the ritual, you could say it's baptism. You could do whatever. Right. Anything's possible, but he's still not specific. And so he comes back from break and he talks a little more. I have been spending the last three months or so very, very frustrated, very pregnant with an idea that I knew was hiding in plain view right in front of me.

But my subconscious and my spirit was hiding from it because I didn't want the responsibility. And also, I am ashamed of myself. And that's really the truth. Now, I tell you this because it's important to understand that, to understand why all of us who don't openly, consciously, willfully serve darkness still tend to bow to it. And it's a riddle that if you have the answer to, you really have the keys to eternity. So we're still not clear on this, although now I'm starting to get those sort of echoes of the other day, like a couple of days back, Alex saying that God is calling him to declare

himself a leader. Right. Right. I'm starting to get Jesus now. I don't know if that's necessarily the way he put it, but I'm starting to get little kernels of that. I'm starting to feel like, uh-oh. Yeah.

Alex, are you building up to declare yourself a religious leader? Yeah. Full blown cult. Let's just do it. It really has that feeling now. But again, he's not being specific. I don't know what he's talking about. So in this next clip, Alex admits that all along, he's known how to defeat the globalists,

which raises the question. Why haven't you done so? Up to this point. That's certainly the first question I would ask. It seems like a very quick solution if you already know how. I have known how to defeat the globalists all along, and that's not just a statement or a claim, but I'd break down how we defeat the New World Order, Satan's world government. You're all going to say, well, of course, that's obvious.

That's on its face. That's prima facie. That speaks for itself. Weaponized bears. It is truth. But knowing what's true is only the gateway to the action. Spit it out. Then once you know that truth that you hide from.

Shut the fuck up. Taking on the full responsibility and then stepping into that office, stepping into that birthright, stepping into that place and carrying out God's will and what must be done. So when you start talking like that, what must be done, we've been hiding from what must be done. Right. Birthright is involved. You're starting to make me feel a bit worried.

Right. Especially when, you know, step into that office that has also the connotation of like claim this leadership role. And I wouldn't think that at all. I would just think he's rambling about nothing if he didn't talk days prior about God calling him to declare himself a leader. Right. So that this exists, this quote unquote epiphany that he's had exists within the context of

that. And that's troubling. Yeah. Because I'm worried is going to be like, now was the Holocaust so bad? I, I, I mean, you're using exaggeration, but like the way exactly when you hear people talk, especially people of the sort of inclinations that Alex has about doing what must be done. It's generally not like positive things. It usually has like, well, we've been pretending we don't want violence for a long time.

Right. Our enemies are demons. So fuck it. What must be done is going and getting ice cream now to be fair to Alex at this point. And, you know, he's not going to go into that direction. Like he's not saying overtly or explicitly like got to do this violence shit or anything like that. But these tones, these, these, these themes that are coming up in the ways presenting this

religious epiphany are just troubling. You usually don't see them outside of really negative contexts. We should not commit violence. Wink, wink. Did I say the wink part out loud? I didn't mean to say wink. So Alex now gets to a little bit more specifics. And like, if you really listen to what he's saying here about these demon enemies that

he has, I think, I think you'll find some pretty troubling ideas. So let me lay it out. The enemy by being abused as children or having genetic predisposition, disposition towards it by training, by lust, by a lot of different ways, prepare themselves to take on the evil operating system, the spirit of Satan. They actively do that. They go through rituals. They go through training to be able to throw off any connection to God, to harden their

hearts and to willfully cut themselves off from God so they can be with Satan willfully. We're switching to Linux. We have to consciously decide to be with God. Okay, so there's the prescription sort of. We have to consciously decide to be with God. This is not epiphany. This is the same shit you talk about all the fucking time. Gotcha.

As soon as Alex started talking on this episode, I got a strong sense he was just going to end up this being an evangelical speech, and it looks like that prediction wasn't too far off, basically from all the everything he's saying. His big revelation, this breakthrough seems to be that his enemies are into Satan, and so his buddies have to be into God that much more. That's a huge disappointment, you know, but it always is whenever he builds something up at all. It's never not a dud.

However, the interesting thing about the way he's presenting things here is that he gives three examples for how people prepare to be with Satan, and this is not something I've heard him talk about in the past. The least interesting example is through, quote, training and lust. I have no idea what that means, but I assume he watched Eyes Wide Shut recently. That's got to be, you know, what's in the back of his mind. Not bad, yeah. The other two examples about how people prepare, and he said willfully doing these things to

get into Satan, they're super fucked up. And if Alex is sincere about what he's putting into the world, I think this makes him a bigger monster than even we give him credit for. Because apparently being the survivor of childhood abuse is preparation for being into Satan, according to Alex. Yeah. Even someone as callous and cruel as Alex, even from him, that's a shocking statement. That's a really, really fucked up thing to be like, oh, this is part of preparation

to go away from God. And his troubling is that idea is, I think his other example is probably worse. What's a genetic predisposition for getting into Satan? Well, I don't, light refracts off their skin. How exactly does genetics play into that at all? There's no way that what he's saying isn't that some sorts of people are just biologically susceptible to being into Satan. Right, right.

I would love for him to clarify exactly what sort of genetic link he's discovered here, but I think having listened to as much of his show as I have, I already know the answer. Well, it's quick. You can see them right away. If you know what I mean. Wink, wink, damn it. Did I say wink again? Shit.

Two out of the three ways he's given here for how people become part of his enemy team are things that are completely out of their control. One of them is being the victim of a crime and the other is based on genetics. I don't understand how someone who's yells about free will all the time and all that is just lumping people around like this for things that they didn't have any choice in. Like I just, I think it's really fucked up. Well, I mean, I guess the idea behind that is if they don't have any choice to do it, then it's not their choice to stop doing it in the same way.

You know what I'm saying? You can't be a free will guy and believe that. Right. Well, naturally. You legitimately cannot. Well, yeah. I mean, if you think everybody's a demon, I don't know. He's, he's just, he's removing agency from all of his enemies.

There's no, there's no point in like these people can't do anything. They're genetically predisposed to it. When he's pressed to the wall in the middle of his bizarre religious rant at the beginning of this episode, slow rant, but a rant nonetheless. The three things that he's able to come up with examples for like rituals that people willingly willfully go through and to become Satanists. Those are the examples that he gives. And I just don't, I don't think that you can, I don't, I don't think that you can

live in a society well and hold those sorts of beliefs. You know what one of those rituals is? What's that? You, you get hit a lot while you have to recite cereal. I'm pretty sure that's the names of cereal. You know, I'm pretty sure that's how it works. Yeah. It's probably.

Yeah. He has talked a little bit about this like shame that he feels and this, this, you know, why, why, if this answer is so easy, why won't people go for it? And it's because of sin. Oh, okay. You feel ashamed because you're in the presence of God and there is the genetic sin of your ancestors. There is the current sin.

That just means false programs against God's larger plan and you have this free will. Yeah. God said that. You have to be able to then manipulate you to feel like you're not worthy to have communion with God and that you're not worthy to be a leader. So the average Christian or the person that's connected to God basically disconnects from God and, and, and thinks that, well, you know, that's something that I can't really be a part of because it's so magnificent and so timeless and so powerful that you want to

crawl under a rock. Now, the occultists just want to get it completely out of the universe because then they think they wouldn't feel so bad about themselves. I just hear there, Alex talking about like more or less a rationalization for himself declaring himself a religious leader. Yeah. Because that, that most people won't do this because of shame and this guilt and, you know, they, they won't stand in the, in the presence of God because like, but it feels like he's

talking about things that have held him back from declaring himself a religious leader, feeling like I am a pile of shit. I feel a psychodrama being played out more or less, but in the context of projecting it onto believers in the audience. Right, right, right. The thing that confuses me, or it doesn't confuse me, it's obvious and it's, it's stupid, but if the vast majority of evangelicals, like 90% plus evangelicals voted for and support Trump no matter what, and he's saying that the average Christian is full of shit and is in

league with the devil basically, then I think he's saying he's a Satanist. That's right. Okay. One more in the bucket. You can style that in that bucket. I don't know. Right. Anyway, we get to the solution in this next clip.

So if you talk about solutions just on its face, praying is the solution. Getting close to God is the solution. Yeah, but what's the final solution? And asking God to come into you and to lead you and to guide you and to direct you. And then if God is in you, you will go out like a heat seeking missile. You will go out and find corruption. You will go out and you will expose it and you will have a magic touch at doing it. And the enemy will see it and will absolutely come after you.

But that's a good thing. You should not have any fear of Satan or his minions and his slaves. So Alex is, you know, he's now given the idea, I guess that, you know, you accept Jesus and you get magic anti-corruption powers, which is good. What if the Bible was just the Old Testament and the letter to Thessalonians is basically what we're looking at right now. None of that whole Jesus stuff. Jesus sucks, man.

He's all like, don't kill people and no. It's, it's strange. So I don't, I don't know how much I believe necessarily in magic anti-corruption powers, but whatever. Alex goes to break and he comes back going whole hog, just really diving in and he's just now reading scripture. So chapter two, one seven, for God have not given us the spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.

Sound mind meaning we understand things. We're not easily manipulated or lied to or conned. We have discerned that we see through the enemy's plans. We see far. You look at their minions. They are dumb down. They are unhealthy. They are stupid.

They'll believe one lie after the next. They'll see something discredited, disproven and the establishment will change to 180 and they'll adopt that right away because they are given over to strong delusion. Yeah, that doesn't sound like you. Wow. That is a word for word description of himself. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. That is insane.

Yeah. He's really stupid. Whenever the administration changes, he'll do a 180. Holy shit. Is he dead on? Yep. That's gaslighting his audience. That is amazing.

It's pretty hard. Whoa. So now Alex has reached the point of him just reading scripture on air coming out of commercial breaks, which is a great development. Sure. He points out that if you level up, you get to use magic anti-corruption touch three times per day and you only have to rest once. Yeah.

I know the deal. So this verse is 2 Timothy 1 7, which is part of a letter that Paul was writing to his friend Timothy, who was in charge of his church in Ephesus. Paul was in prison at the time. So that's why there's kind of a reassuring tone of like God has given us this sound mind. Don't worry about it. You're cool. I'm in prison, but don't worry about it.

Come on. Anyway, just because it's fun, here's some other quotes from 2 Timothy that Alex should think about. Chapter 2 verse 16 says, quote, shun profane and vain babblings where they will increase unto more ungodliness. I can't think of a better description of Alex's retelling of the three little pigs from Wednesday than profane and vain babbling. That chapter also says, quote, the servant of God must not strive, but be gentle unto

all men, apt to teach, patient in meekness instructing those that oppose themselves. I can think of a few things that describe Alex less than gentle unto all, apt to teach and patient. Yeah, that's no good. In chapter 4 of 2 Timothy, Paul instructs Timothy to bring him his cloak and talks about Alexander the Coppersmith, who he hopes will be punished by God. Just talk some shit about this Coppersmith he doesn't like. Yeah, but he was a dick.

It's a weird book. You've got to give him that. He was a dick. I don't know anything about Alexander the Coppersmith. Have you ever met a Coppersmith? I have not. Uniformly douchebags. But my question is largely, if Alex is so ready to cite this verse out of context, why

is he silent on the matter of Alexander the Coppersmith? That's a good question. Why is Alex dodging the question of the Coppersmith? Alex Coppersmith. Just Coppersmith Jones. I know it. I'm a Coppersmith truther. I think Alex is a Coppersmith.

I think he's in the in the pocket of big Alexander the Coppersmith. Does Coppersmith start with a Q? No. Oh. Aha. So in this next book, I think we get the sense that this has all just been a prelude to him trying to get his audience to accept Jesus. And it's the realization that you don't have to have all the answers.

The will is not going to defeat Satan. But the gifts God's given you and if you tie in to God and just say, I have free will, but I ask you into my heart and I ask you to leave God and direct me and I ask you to show me what to do, then it will all follow and you will experience an intensifying relationship as you're ready to handle it. I'm not against people who are religious. I am not against Christianity. I am not against Christians.

I'm not against Muslims. I'm not against anybody of any faith. I'm against this. I do not think that this is sincere. I think this is a guy pivoting his con. Like I just think I think what you're seeing here is somebody who's like, all right, I'm not making money doing this anymore. The ship is falling apart.

Even if I get sued out of my entire existence by the Sandy Hook lawsuit, which James Fetzer just lost. Yeah, he just got his asses got to be completely worried about that. So if, you know, Alex recognizes that even if I do completely self-destruct on that path, there may be a future for me in televangelism. Oh, absolutely. If Jim Baker can go to prison for defrauding people and come back and now have a compound in the Ozarks and still make tons of money doing this, Alex has to recognize that that

is a safe refuge for me. For sure. And he's always been fairly religious, but like the amplification of it just even in the last week has been pretty severe. I God is calling me to declare myself in a leadership position. The first fucking hour of his show being this bizarre religious pageant. Like, I don't feel like anybody should feel ashamed of having religious beliefs or anything like that.

And it's not my business or interest on this podcast to be like, you're stupid if you believe in God. Right. I respect everybody and their religious beliefs. I don't respect people using it as a weapon against their audience. Yeah. And that's all I see going on here. So when I critique this, it's not critiquing somebody who wants someone to accept Jesus.

It could be easy to get that twisted and that is not what I'm responding to. I'm responding to religion being used as a trick. Sincerely wanting to accept Jesus is as far away from what it is he's asking you to do as can possibly be right now. Yeah. He's just like, look, I made all this money working. If I become a cult leader, I can make the same amount of money and I don't have to work. Why didn't I do this in the beginning?

To an extent, I mean, you'd probably still do some of the same work. Right. Because his work is just yelling. Well, Jim Baker is still, he's technically still working. Yeah. Right. No, totally. And I think it's a smart move on his part.

I don't know if that's what he's doing, but it's the feeling that you get from listening to, if you listen to an episode like this, you're like, I don't know what this has to do with the democratic debates. Yeah. I don't know what this has to do with Congress. You're just trying to get people into your version of religion that you seem to be the head of. Yeah.

I have a question. Uh-huh. If he pivots to religious leader situation and creates his own organization, would he be able to create a Twitter account for that organization? Probably not. Oh, yeah? Well, I mean, we learned that Tommy Robinson and Sargon of Akkad, when they tried to get Twitter accounts for their runs for parliament in the UK, they weren't allowed.

They were still like fuck off. Yeah. Okay. So I think that Alex probably wouldn't be able to rebrand and then come back to social media. Good. But I don't know. I mean, like it would be super easy.

Like a lot of the same stuff that he talks about could just be done in a purely religious context. Yeah. Like the globalists, you know, they're just demons. They already are. All the stuff about animal, human hybrids and the, you know, all that shit could just be repackaged. Yeah.

One of his old guests, he's been on Jim Baker's show. Like he could just pivot towards them. Yeah. I mean, it wouldn't be hard. Yeah. Close down info wars, lay low for six months, become a religious figure. You're golden. I think you might need more than six months because he does have the actual lawsuit.

The trial. Oh, that's true. Yeah. Yeah. You got to let that one. I think he's got to sell off the warehouse, get enough money to weather that storm and then come back in some form as like purely religious outlet and then any kind of like attempts at censoring him become even more compelling because he's like, I'm just trying

to block my religion or whatever. And it would be one thing I think if he was like legitimately trying to just say, Hey, I believe in Christianity and I want as many people to know the joys and the love that comes from Christianity. But the issue is while he's trying to proselytize and get people into God and Jesus, he's also saying, don't go to church. See, a lot of people have connections to God, but the false churches lure them to them so that the Satanist and others can control you and misdirect you.

And because you have the real light in you, they want to send you out to bring other people to them so they can then flip it and take control of that whole flock of people and lead them into a spider hole. And that's how this works. So most churches, you know, false churches, all these false glitter bug churches out there, who knows who knows what exactly falls under that heading. He's not specific enough. It's probably any church you might go to for sure.

Really just satanic traps. Absolutely. What church did you go to? What do you mean? When you were younger. Are you asking sincerely? No. Oh.

Because it's a spider trap. Okay. Yeah. I mean, that might be true. It wasn't mega church. Oh, well, that's fair. But like, still, like what you're doing here is trying to get people into a specific niche. Your extreme right wing, possibly Christian identity leaning religious beliefs.

That's what you want people to subscribe to with a religious fervor as opposed to just being interested in bringing people to Jesus. Right. And that is a problem. That is fucked up. And he's basically saying, no matter what anybody else says about Jesus, you can only listen to me. Right.

Right. Which is definitely not a hallmark of a cult leader at all. And if their stuff conflicts with his stuff, they're the devil spider trap. There you go. Yeah. And if your family goes to that church, spiders, spiders, you stay with me. Yeah. So Alex talks about how God wants you to marry life, but Satan wants to torture you.

Oh, okay. God wants you to marry into life and his creation. Literally. So death, do you apart? It's a love affair. Satan wants to torture your soul because it's all Satan has. Satan is a loser. Satan is a joke, but God did create Satan and knew what Satan was going to do as a tester

because God has to have his children tested and had to give us free will and can't stand to watch how many people fall, but that's the way the universe works. That's what free will is all about. It's time to choose your destiny. So he's going out and that's what free will is about when you've already said most of these people are Satanists or into the devil because of things that had nothing to do with their free will. Right.

So only white people are given free will. I don't know if you don't know what fucking contradiction, how he's able to get around that in his mind somehow being obsessed with free will and then maligning people because of being the victims of crimes or their genetic makeup. Yeah. It's fucking stupid. All incredibly dumb and kind of transparent on a certain level. Like I don't know if he's going to pull the trigger and actually go through with any of

those things that we're talking about. Like the idea of like coming back and rebranding as a church or whatever. But if he were to do it, this is how you would start it. This is this is the kind of behavior you would expect from somebody who wants to make that pivot. Yeah. Now I'm not predicting shit because Alex is a crazy person. Right.

You know, that prediction could be entirely bad and maybe he's just in a weird mood and felt like preaching. That could be. Yeah. But you know, a couple of days ago, him saying that he wanted to or God was telling him to be a leader, you know, declare himself a leader. Then a couple of days later, this popping up on the show, it just it just feels, I don't know, messed up.

There's no other way. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I remember my Bible, it seems like God made it clear on multiple occasions that it was blasphemous to tell him what his reasons for doing anything are or even try and tell other people why God does whatever he does. And apparently Alex has a direct line to here's why God does everything. Oh God. I mean, Alex is very blasphemous. You think you think that's blasphemy?

I would say it is. It would literally be remind me of taking the Lord's name in vain. Another thing that I think is really funny is that so Alex is like, you know, the verse that he pulled that he was reading was from 2 Timothy. And I would ask him if he wants to declare himself a religious leader, I think you should read 1 Timothy also because in 1 Timothy 3, it discusses the requirements of someone who will be considered to be a bishop in the church and in Paul's church. I bet he meets and fulfills all of them.

Sometimes from chapter 3 verse 2, quote, a bishop must be above reproach, married only once, temperate, sensible, respectable, hospitable, an apt teacher, not a drunkard, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, and not a lover of money. Those are 11 qualifications and Alex is 0 for 11. 0 for 11? He doesn't even get one? It's almost damn. It's almost impressive how all of those do not describe him.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's pretty amazing. So Alex couldn't even be a bishop. I don't know. He can move diagonally though. So there is that. Don't look. He's 1 for 12.

Don't look at 1 Timothy. Only 2 Timothy matters. Great. Go talk to Alexander the Coppersmith. Write the wrongs of Paul. Who cares? Yeah. So anyway, that was how Alex went out to commercial with that sort of you got to choose a side.

And here's how it comes back from commercial. This hit show, The Good Doctor, that routinely has 18 million viewers. That's more than a Monday night football game dedicated an entire episode a few nights ago to demonizing yours truly. It's a special report. Is that? Yeah, that wasn't him live. No.

He comes back to, he's out of studio or whatever doing something. I don't know what, he's just playing a special report about The Good Doctor. Playing another thing that a bishop requires that he can't do. Great. Yeah. So you go from weird religious rant into special report about how there's a TV show about him. Yeah.

Yeah. Awesome. It makes perfect sense. So it's true that that show, The Good Doctor, it did hit the ground running when it first started, when it premiered in its first season and it averaged about 17 million viewers early on in that first season. But that did not last. According to Nielsen, season two of the show, which started in September 2018 and ended in

March 2019, in that season, the show averaged 6.731 million viewers and was never higher than 7.7, which was the season finale. That's tough. Still not bad. No, no, no, no. In the days of fractured entertainment landscapes, that's not bad at all. Season three, which is currently airing, has seen a further drop in ratings with the show averaging under 6 million viewers for the first four episodes aired.

The reason Alex is citing the higher number is that the, that higher number is at least two years old. And the reason he's doing that is because, you know, the idea that a show with that many viewers would stoop to attacking Alex elevates his stature. It's an act of vanity, pure and simple. It's less impressive to say that a side character was a parody of you on a show that was beat easily in the ratings by the voice and dancing with the stars, but that would be more accurate. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Also, I would be remiss not to point out how this special report gave me whiplash. Alex spent the first hour of his show, basically this disturbing religious rant, then he goes to commercial, the show returns and it's him bragging about a show, the super high ratings making fun of him. This show is disjointed as hell. Yeah. Like, I don't know how whoever's working the board didn't come up with something that wouldn't appear to be largely contradictory of the selflessness and the, the religious

tone of the first part of the show, going straight into, I don't know, pride. It's just such ego shit. I think there is a character on Dancing with the Stars loosely based on Alex, right? Sean Spicer. Yeah. So Alex comes into studio after the special report plays. I'm guessing maybe he had to go to the bathroom or something like that and just wasn't ready. So he comes back and he complains more about this, you know, everyone, all these characters

are based on me. They're demonizing me. And as I told you at the start of the next hour, I'm going to actually air this entire special report where dozens and dozens of movies, documentaries, TV shows admit that they are creating characters based on Alex Jones and then they come out and say in the news that this is Alex Jones and then misrepresent who I am in an attempt to again create this false archetype. That's in their words, archetype.

So I regret to inform you, Jordan, that the Alex Jones show is currently in reruns. We did this news cycle back when there was a character that was similar to Alex on Homeland. Back when Alex was yelling about how that was designed to turn him into a bad guy so the globalists could kill him and then that didn't happen. I would guess that if there are actually dozens of characters based on Alex and movies and documentaries, then there's a simpler explanation than they're all based on Alex. I could see the possible explanation being that there are way more people walking around in public who sound like Alex than there used to be.

Creating characters on a show involves relatability and it seems like this day, more people know somebody who's a bit like Alex. If there are more characters on shows like this, it's less likely that Alex is super popular and relevant and that's why and it's more likely that the stupidity that he's championed for years has become more mainstream, like in the same way that people could be getting this same sort of bullshit from Fox News now or Tucker as opposed to it usually being something that those folks would be ashamed to engage in. The level of rank overt stupidity and bigotry, they used to code things a lot better.

Or they used to code things period. Now we're one tiny little puzzle piece away from Tucker Carlson just saying like white people are the best, let's kill everybody else. We all know that the Bible is an ancient American scripture. Oh God. We're not far, not far. So this complaining about the media demonizing him is just sort of a diversion, a sidetrack for Alex and he gets back to religious bullshit.

This is insane. Priesthoods pop up and then tell you you've got to go through them to get to the metaphysical that you know is real. And then that's where all of the disinformation and craziness comes from. And those priesthoods always end up within 10 generations, it's usually five, engaging in mass human sacrifice to horned devil gods on top of black pyramids. That matter where it was in the ancient world, they found the pyramids in Europe, they found them in Asia, they're finding pyramids in China that they thought were mountains and

they're pyramids and they've got underground cities in them. And boy you talk about cover ups, whatever's been going on in China is being very covered up. Well I guess I can't look into it then. Yeah. All that other stuff he's talking about is complete bullshit that we've talked about in the past, the black pyramids and shit. And then the rest, the horned demons and stuff, I'm almost certain that's just childhoods

end. I'm almost certain he's just talking about that sci-fi novel. So whatever. Now Alex gets into talking about how LA, the city, Los Angeles, run by demons and vampires. All right. You've got others that are libertarian, pro-America and they none of them live around there and they can't stand it. And they will tell you yes, Hollywood is run basically by vampires.

It's too hot. The spirit in them is ancient. The bodies die but it's a vampire. They drink blood, everything folks. Okay? Sure. And you brush up against that and most people get really scared and either run from it or they decide to serve it.

Wouldn't that be those libertarians that you're talking about who you're, you know, they decided to serve it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They found out that vampires run Hollywood by being grips and best boys on many different pictures. No, no, no. Because he's talking earlier in that, like right before this clip, he's talking about no, these people are bigger than Charlie Sheen.

Oh, okay. Yeah. So they are major stars. These are not people who are like ADs or crew. Okay. Well, then they definitely work for vampires, right? They would have to. They made millions of dollars working for vampires.

In order for them to tell Alex about it, they'd have to be like made a deal with these vampires. This is bullshit. You know, this sounds suspiciously like, if you've ever read the graphic novel, American Vampires, it's very good and it just opens in the 1920s with vampires running Hollywood and eating people left and right. This sounds also suspiciously like the shit Charlie Sheen would probably tell Alex in the middle of one of his coke binges. Yeah, that does sound right.

Yeah. So I don't know how much I believe this. Anyway, you might ask yourself, like, all right, there's demons everywhere. They've taken over all this shit. Right. Infinitely powerful, but you can defeat them very easily by believing in God. But why, Jordan, why has God not destroyed us yet? If demons have taken over and they're running amok, why has God not destroyed us?

Like Noah? I want to know the answer. And believe me, the only reason we're not in nuclear war and mass death and the hedge of protection already removed from us is because God loves our ancestors that prayed for us and that understood what was happening and understood that these times were coming. And we're literally praying hours a day quietly, silently for the future. So God is only not destroying us because we have a built up bank of prayers that because our ancestors prayed a bunch, you know, but there's a prayer trust, of course, it's going

to run out like social security. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Eventually, unless we, well, social security will run out under the assumption that no one pays into it, right? It won't run out as long as people keep, so I guess Alex is kind of saying that we all need to pray like crazy because the trust will run, he's a socialist prayer guy. That's what it is. So he believes in socialist prayer.

Right. Great. I don't, I don't even know what to say to that. We're not being destroyed because our ancestors prayed enough, very, very weird. I want to, I want to, I want a number. I want a number. What's the correct amount of prayers? Some prayer accounting?

Yeah, yeah, because if there's a, if you have a situation where there's enough prayer coming from your ancestors, that means that there was a point wherein it became enough prayer, like what's over under for how many prayers you need. It also implies the human race going. It also implies on some level that there is a need that God has for prayers. Oh yeah. Like otherwise, why would there be a line? It's almost like he's a fucking vampire for prayers.

It's very weird. So anyway, Alex starts yelling about DMT. I think he's actually talking about ayahuasca, but he talks a bit about DMT and how if you take it, you're seeing demons and trying to get back on Joe Rogan again. He might be. Because the only thing that's going to contact you in those dimensions is bad stuff because God dut his hands off, the devil and his boys aren't. And if you want to take a bunch of DMT and hang out with a bunch of gray aliens and green

elf outfits, knock yourself out because I know a bunch of people in the building have taken it and if you're a Christian or you're somebody that's aware of this stuff, they're not very friendly because they know they're not going to get you. And how about spending the equivalent of like 50 years in a dungeon with them torturing you? How's that for a five minute trip to the other dimension? I guess five minutes. That probably is DMT as opposed to ayahuasca, but yeah, so he had a bad trip or one of his

employees. Yeah. I would say there's an alternative explanation that's completely possible for why these sorts of Christians that Alex hangs out with had a bad time taking DMT and it literally has nothing to do with literal demons. From everything I've read or heard about the experience, taking DMT or ayahuasca puts a person into a state where some of the things that they've been struggling with on a subconscious level and maybe trying to ignore become very clear to them.

I have friends who have taken it and said it was a challenging experience where they were forced to confront and work through a lot of stuff that they'd been suppressing. I have one friend who's a super happy go lucky type of person who took it and said it was just really interesting, like a good hallucination kind of experience. The point is a lot of what you experience in those states depends on what you bring to the table. It's certainly not the case for all Christians, but I would guess a lot of the sort of Christians who Alex is associating with might be a particular sort of Christian.

They might be a bit on the fire and brimstone side of the equation. They might be the sort to argue pre and post tribulation rapture really aggressively. They might be the sort who are stuck in the part of Christian belief that emphasizes that humans are deficient by nature. Taking those sorts of beliefs into a hallucinogenic experience like this is often going to be a bad experience since these beliefs don't really stand up to scrutiny all that well. All you have to base them on are feelings and your beliefs about this stuff. Yeah, that's no good.

I don't want to take DMT and then start reading sinners in the hands of an angry God. That's not the way I want to go. You don't need demons to give you a bad trip. All you need is some kind of insecurity about the idea that an all loving God would create existence as a cruel test and your subconscious will do the rest. Oh yeah. It's pretty good at it. Any kind of feelings that you've been suppressing about your beliefs you'll be confronted with

and if you try and fight it, I know from taking acid and mushrooms in the past that one of the ways that you can end up having a very bad time is by fighting thoughts in your head. The same is true of even weed to a lesser degree. You'll end up trapped in weird conflicts with yourself that you don't really need. There's a path that you can go on. Yeah, no. I suspect that anybody who works for Alex would not be able to handle being confronted with subconscious things that they are like, if you work for Alex, you know on some level

that you work for a liar. Right. Like even just that, taking a hallucinogen would be a nightmare. Yeah, the guilt of that. And then like Ken Keesey and the electric Kool-Aid acid test cats, they always emphasized having a guide there with you. Anytime you go on any of those trips, you want a guide there to comfort you and to keep you on the path instead of getting lost in that and you don't want to take drugs with

Alex as your guide. I'm sure. That's not something I want to do. I'm sure they didn't. Yeah. I'm sure Alex didn't take, they didn't take DMT around Alex. That would be a nightmare. That would be the worst.

Oh God, he would turn into a demon so fast. Yeah. So I don't think there's anything to be said for like Christians being particularly tormented by DMT demons. Yeah. More that the sort of Christians that Alex probably hangs out with probably have a lot of unresolved stuff that they need to work through. It gets brought up in the state of a hallucinogenic trip and they experience that as demons torturing

them for their beliefs and it's all a bunch of bullshit. But Alex has one other citation on this and it's a guy that I've met. I'm going to explain this again. Eric Muller, man cow, famous syndicate talk show host. Oh, that guy sucks. He went to Costa Rica, took DMT with 50 people as he said, 45 people with medical doctors running it. Hey, I think it's $15,000 to do it and they all saw the same aliens come out of the forest

and talk to them. Everyone saw the damn aliens and then a couple people have the aliens jump into them and they take them over. But the doctors were there to help. No folks. It was feeding time. Man cow. Got fed on.

Man cow got eight. I don't believe this story and here's a few reasons why. First, it involves man cow. So this is bullshit from the jump. Yeah. Second, there's zero chance that man cow paid $15,000 for an ayahuasca retreat in Costa Rica. There's a group called Sultara that offers retreats and for their one week retreat,

their most expensive package is just under $7,000. And that's for two people who get to stay in a private couple suite and it covers all the costs for the week that you're there, like food, everything. Dude, honestly, that sounds kind of affordable. Yeah. Like it's not possible for me. No. Not at all.

No. But that doesn't say that it's a middle class trip. I mean, you still have to pay for the flight, but you could get a pretty cheap flight. No. Yeah. There's no way that man cow would be able to hit $15,000 unless he was doing a three week retreat for two people at this. And Sultara is like a pretty, uh, like resort.

Yeah. Yeah. So like that's high end. Right. I wanted to know more. So I went to listen to an episode of man cow's podcast where he talks to the guy who runs the retreat that he went to. He went to a place called Rhythmia and if you look it up, it costs $300 a day.

Man cow would have to have been there for 50 days for it to hit $15,000. Jesus was only in the desert for 40 man. Man cow can't. Man cow can't last that long. Man cow says on the show that he was there for a week. So it's likely that he paid about two grand, which is pretty standard for people who go and do non luxury, uh, trips like this. The entire episode of man cow's show is about how ayahuasca is a medicine that helps people

overcome trauma and reconnect with themselves. There's no conversation about everybody seeing the same aliens. There's no demon possession, nothing. Man cow talks about recovering memories from his past and says that some of them were even beautiful to him. He asks the guy who runs with me about the guides or clockwork elves and man cow explicitly says quote, I didn't see any of that. It's all bullshit.

If you actually listen to man cows podcast at this guy, it's one of the more like I was a palatable man cow. I was shocked. Yeah. Cause he wasn't being a shit bag. It's very unlike the experiences that I've personally had with me and cow and other times I've heard him. Yeah.

Talking about how like a friend of his was having a really, really hard time and needed to go to this retreat and I can't remember exactly if it was like the friend of his went before and that's why he went or they went together. But whatever the case he went and he said that it was a really interesting, um, experience and the guy who's on is just talking about it in the context of, you know, you go and you're shown these important moments in your memories and your past, yeah, places where part of you became alienated from yourself. Yeah.

And it offers you the opportunity to confront those things from your past and move past them. There's like it's, it's, it's shockingly, I don't even know what the right word is, but just fine for a man cow episode. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. I think that's a great way of putting it.

There is. It was fine. There's even a conversation between him and this dude who runs the resort talking about the difference in belief of like whether it's a mystical thing or a chemical thing. Yeah. And the guy is like, uh, I don't really care if you believe, if, if you believe that it's a chemical thing, then that's your experience and that's great. That's awesome.

Yeah. If you have a chemical experience that allows you the same benefit as somebody else who believes it's a mystical experience, what's the reason we should argue about? Right. Right. Right. Right. Right.

Right. Right. You would think there's no Kepler aliens. Man cow does a half hour episode talking to the guy who runs the retreat, right? And everyone there saw the same alien and got taken over by really seems like that would have come up. It feels like that would have been high on the list and I don't think man cow is the kind of person to shy away from that out of politeness to the guy who runs the resort.

That had happened. The first thing that the opening of that podcast would have been like this motherfucker made me see aliens and I got eaten. Right. Even the first slide, if I know man cow, that would absolutely be within his repertoire. He is a giant piece of shit. So the other thing that like, you know, the only thing that's even close is that the guy who's on this podcast with man cow does mention that he's had experiences taking ayahuasca

where he and somebody else who had taken it had a shared experience. And to the extent that that is subjective and or even if it is both of their subjective experience. I don't know. I don't know if that's real. I don't, I don't know. But I also believe that there's a possibility that it could be maybe, but I also don't think that proves anything.

You hear similar stories from people about like meditation and lucid dreaming, you know, you hear, you hear that's like shared subconscious experience in other avenues. I think that that's something that people, we might learn more about as we get a greater understanding of how our brains work. Yeah. I think that's also another part of that. Like I don't care if you think it's chemical or mystical, that's cool. Did you hurt yourself?

Did you hurt somebody else? No. You only benefited. Well, then fine. You shared a subjective experience with somebody else. Right. Cool. And that's as far as it goes in terms of like there's nothing about demons, nothing about

aliens. That's why they aren't, it's suspicious in it, in its absence, Dan. If they told you about that, nobody's coming to the retreats anymore. And if that's the case, then Alex should think Mancow is evil because the function of that podcast then would be just to get more food for the aliens or whatever the demons. So Mancow would be an active promoter of feeding time. Yeah. Yeah.

He would be a, what's her face from a nexium or, right, right. So that none of this works. It's all stupid. And I think Alex is just making shit up knowing that Mancow isn't going to correct him. I agree. So Alex, it gets back to talking about Satan. Sure. I mean, he has been.

Sure. And he makes a transition from talking about Satan to the news of the day. It's a little jarring. You can't do that. We're sitting here with our memories wiped in the test, Satan's memory is not wiped. Oh no. Satan remembers it all. Photographic memory.

Computer memory. Okay. Now, there's a ton of news, the debate last night, Tulsi Gabbard got up there and was anti endless war. Okay. This is too much. Oh boy. Satan has photographic memory.

Long pause. Hey, the debates are last night. What about that Tulsi? Oh man, Satan photographic memory shows a farce Tulsi Gabbard's weird, huh? What else is in the news? That was that's a shitty open my comic. Yeah. Alex can't really get into the debates though and he doesn't at this point really at all

except to say that Tulsi is like, he's sort of suggesting that she, you know, she's good because of this endless war thing. But I think that she is just there in order to take out Trump. She's the dark horse or whatever. Sure. I don't know. I don't know what he's doing. Why not?

But he only touches on this for a little bit because he's got to get back to talking about the good doctor and how they're making fun of him. Really feel like he doesn't. Welcome back. I'm your host Alex Jones. By the way, Seth Gordon, the producer of the show that says to the Hollywood reporter others that this show was to target me. Turns out he works for the Bellamalinda Gates Foundation and the United Nations World Development

Fund. That's right. That's who he works for. And of course, Bellamalinda Gates funds a lot of the shows on ABC. Really? We're looking into the funding of that, but they keep it closed for the past. That won't be in a shareholder document until later. But that's the first entry is Bellamalinda Gates Foundation and the United Nations.

I look forward to him revealing this research. So it turns out that Alex has done some deep digging on this. And by that, I mean he's gone to Seth Gordon's Wikipedia page and read that he directed videos for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and the UN. Caught him. If we're going to play this game, let's at least make it fun. Seth Gordon also directed The King of Kong, the documentary about the Donkey Kong World Record.

Did he? That's Satan. So why not work that into the conspiracy? Bill and Melinda Gates trying to fund Donkey Kong. That dude was lying and he faked the whole thing. So there you go. There's no citation on his, uh, what work he did with the Gates Foundation or the UN. But I'm going to guess it has to do with the six months he spent teaching in Kenya.

Jesus Christ. According to an article about him in Reuters promoting his upcoming, uh, film for Christmases, which he also directed. Sure. Quote. After discovering that the Kenyan infrastructure leaves school building to the locals, he helped get philanthropic UN financing to finish up Shimanyaro's school and then filmed the students and residents as they experienced the ensuing changes.

His work, uh, was, he was working towards a documentary called Building Shimanyaro. And if I had to guess, this is where the path intersects with the Gates and the UN. Either that or Bill Gates secretly funded the Baywatch movie starring the rock, which Gates, uh, Gordon also directed. Everybody knows only Satan believes in more than one Christmas. I don't have any evidence in neither does Alex that he works for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation or the UN, but that his past path probably intersected with their interests and the sort of things that the development council might get involved with while he was

trying to help build schools in Kenya years ago. Yeah. This is like, uh, 2010, I believe. So it's like, uh, what, why, why, why are you doing this? Yeah. You know, another problem with income inequality is there are never ending amount of billionaires to update your bullshit conspiracy theories on like you start with a Roth child or whatever, then you move on to your fucking, uh, name them.

And then you, you wind up with a Soros and then you go to Gates and then it's never ending. Right. Alex will have to blame the government all the time. He won't have those other guys. That might not be a great development for his rhetoric, but who knows. I don't know. I don't care.

Right. Don't care. Well, it's just like this is the same thing as saying the good doctor has 17, 18 million viewers. Yes, it does. It's to elevate who's making the attack on you. This guy happened to direct a video about that had some funding from the Gates Foundation in the UN when he was trying to help a small, uh, Kenyon school get built, which was in,

uh, intersected with their interest. Yeah. He doesn't work for them. He's directing movies and TV, um, it's just crazy. It's the only, it, all it does is to serve to make it look like, aha, this is part of the targeted attack upon me and look at how powerful the people are who are attacked when in reality, you know, it's probably just like, Hey, here's something that we could put into an episode.

Here's an archetype that's goofy and ripe for parody. Yeah. Not hard. Nope. Speaking of not hard, uh, it's not hard to, uh, book dumb guests on your show and Alex has done just that. Sargon. Well, Carl Benjamin Sargon of a cod is back in studio with us.

He is a smart cookie. Look forward to having him ride shotgun with us and cover the waterfront and I just talked to him. You just got here 10 minutes ago. I said, what do you want to cover first? So Carl is on. What is Sargon of a cod want to cover first day? The debates.

Oh God. And I'll get to that here in a moment. Sure. But first, Alex has to justify Trump's behavior vis-a-vis Syria, which is interesting. All right, again, how could anybody ask for anything better? That's the exact strategy. It's not our war to plus million have already left Turkey last few years into Europe. Now there's 3.5 million who aren't even really from Syria, all over the world that try to

take over Syria. Now they've gone into Turkey and Turkey says, we're kicking you back into there and the Russians have come in to fill the vacuum and Erdogan has gone, you know, is going to Russia to meet with Putin. Pence is going out there and they're going to work it out and it's going to be done. Putting the baby to bed, ending the war that the deep state started. I don't know how anyone could not support that. I think there's a few ways.

Wow. I think there's a few. So yeah, that's where he's at now, which is weird. All roads lead back to Putin, huh? I guess so. So Sargon has a little bit of an interesting take on this and I'm going to stop calling him that because his name is fucking Carl. Carl has an interesting take on this.

And that is that Alex, it seems to be presenting this as, you know, they're going to get, they're taking the troops out, you know, and Carl realizes that, well, I mean, he also sent troops to Saudi Arabia, which is true. Yes. I'm going to strike down for this because pay, pay attention to how this exchange goes because I think this low key is one of the most revealing clips that we maybe have ever played. Okay.

What do you make of what you just saw Trump say? Trump is doing what he said he would do. He said this in 2016. He said that he would pull out of the Middle East and I think there's an important distinction to be made there. He means, he means the war zones in the Middle East. People are saying, well, he's sending X amount of troops to Saudi Arabia. He's, he's kind of obliged to, they're an ally of yours.

So it's one of those things where it's not a homogeneous zone. He's sending missile defense systems. Yeah. I think he's sending troops as well. Yeah. The operator. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. So first of all, by the logic that Saudi Arabia is our ally, so Trump has to send troops to support them over there, then he's similarly obligated to protect the Kurds. They're one of our allies in the region and have been on our side in a far more real way than Saudi Arabia. That argument first of all, they also didn't do 9-11, so there's that. That argument falls completely apart upon any examination. So strike one, Carl.

Nonsense. Now Carl is saying that in order to justify what's, you know, why it's good to send troops to Saudi Arabia and it's not in any way a contradiction of the promises Trump made to bring troops home. Now ignore for a minute that Alex was convinced recently by Joel Scousen that Trump taking troops out of Northern Syria was going to lead to a larger war and more troops going in because this goddamn show exists outside of context. Alex is obviously intentionally ignored Trump sending troops to Saudi Arabia.

From everything I've listened to, this is just something that he's pretending didn't happen because he knows he can't justify it at all. That's why when Carl brings it up, Alex first tries to pretend that what's really happening is that Trump is sending them missile defense systems. But Carl doesn't realize that this is not a welcome talking point on Alex's show. So he tries to correct Alex because he doesn't know any better. The Trump is sending troops and the only way forward now is to accept a compromise, namely the Trump is sending troops but only a couple demand the missile defense systems.

You see how that works there? That back and forth is so revealing. All he's doing is sending IT guys. That's all he's doing. That's so revealing because that what that is, is an uncontrolled variable entering Alex's controlled bubble and then you see how it's mitigated. You see the conversation that's happening is very clear. The message that Alex is sending is stop it.

Stop it. And you know, Carl knows well enough to be like, oh yeah, okay. He can tell that there's pushback on this very real thing and he's like, oh, why would anybody push back on that? Oh, it contradicts the narrative. Alex is lying because he can't afford to tell the truth. The missile defense systems were sent last month along with a couple hundred troops to Saudi Arabia and that was a response to the attack on Saudi oil interests that Trump

has blamed on Iran. In October, on October 11th, the New York Times reported that Trump was sending approximately 3000 additional troops, which were not just people to man the missile defense systems. Alex is so full of shit, but that clip is very special to me because it demonstrates malice. Carl has no idea what things from the real world are okay to talk about on info wars in which or not. That's not a good sentence ever.

No, but it's clearly demonstrated there. Alex intentionally protects his audience from some information about reality that might lead them to realizing that he's misleading them. So Carl thinks that he can just speak freely because Alex yells about free speech all the time. And Alex has to nip that in the bud and then create a new reality to explain away the verboten information that's just been introduced to the show without Carl putting that stuff out there.

This would never come up. The goalposts are on ice, but please, I don't want the ice to break. Come on, man. We can't move them too much. Right. And it shows that Alex has awareness that's outside of the things that he talks about. Like he knows that, uh, you know, more troops are being sent to Saudi Arabia and he just pretends, man, let's not talk about that.

So, um, then they get to talking about this, uh, this situation a little more and it's like, Hey, you know, why is the left all mad about us taking troops out? I thought they were into leaving the Middle East. I'm old enough to remember when the left wanted us to pull out of the Middle East and now to hear them screaming about how we should stay there is an amazing last night's debate. Did you watch it? Yes, I did. Um, but the, the, the question that the left really needs to ask itself in this regard

is do we have the moral mandate to impose our version of human rights on the Middle East? Because people in the Middle East broadly don't agree with what we consider to be human rights. So I find that to be a really interesting perspective that Carl is putting forth. The idea that people in the Middle East don't seem to have much of an interest in human rights or at least the, as the rest of the world defines it. You know, I think there are some people who don't have as much of an interest in human

rights. Right. But I would say the, the like what we would call the people or, or people, they're really into it and they're against being gassed by their own leader. Yeah. Usually. I think that's probably the case. I'm not sure what Carl is basing his ideas on and I'd love to see some data.

I suppose he could be talking about a number of polls that have been done that show a trend in countries in the region of not believing in equality for women. You could see things like that as signs of an unsalvageable difference in cultures, or you could realize that the polling numbers would look really similar if you did them in the U S in the 1950s. No kid. A lot of this just seems unfounded and based on deep cultural hatred towards Muslims. I really don't see any other way to look at this.

So I kind of get the sense that what Carl is doing is just assuming that the terrorists and extremists are completely representative of the people of the region and that does not seem fair. It seems like this is based on feelings. Also, also, also, fuck you, Carl. Human rights are not defined differently. They're just human rights. That's it.

And look, dude, earlier this year, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announced the formation of a commission on unalienable rights, which he said would, quote, revisit the most basic of questions. What does it mean to say or claim that something is in fact a human right? He went on to say, quote, how can there be human rights we possess, not as privileges we're granted or even earned, but simply by virtue of our humanity belonging to us? Is it in fact true, as our Declaration of Independence asserts, that as human beings, we, all of us, every member of our human family are endowed by our creator with certain inalienable

rights? What a fucking monster. Is this a State Department or an undergrad philosophy class? You know, like what even are rights, you know what I mean, man? If you hear someone in Trump's cabinet floating questions about whether or not people have rights just because they're people, you better prepare yourself for the answer they come up with to be maybe not or worse. I've found that when people insist on asking long ago answered questions, it generally

means that they don't like the answer that everyone already came to. It's not odd. Yeah. This does not exist to strengthen or celebrate human rights. It exists to ask a completely different question, but hide that. The question they're asking is, what can we get away with? It doesn't make things look any better when you learn that GLAAD protested the Commission, having found overt anti-LGBTQ statements made by seven out of the nine members appointed

to the Commission. No way. And there were a whole ton of anti-women's right to choose sentiment in there too. Who would have guessed? That's what this is about. Jesus Christ. My point is, I guess, that is the point being that there's human rights issues all over the place.

Yeah. I don't know what Carl is talking about when he says that the Middle East isn't into human rights like we are. And since he doesn't give me any citations to go on, I kind of just have to assume that he just feels that way and doesn't care about other instances of human rights issues around the world. You know what I find very funny? There is almost a, there's a very suspicious parallel between what we did to Iran in the

70s and 80s and what Russia is doing to us right now. Because at Iran, there was a far more open and egalitarian society. And then we helped install a repressive fucking theocratic nightmarish regime. And Russia basically did the same thing to us. It's very fascinating. That is interesting. Maybe you should write a book about it. Maybe I should, Dan.

Okay. Maybe I should. So Sargon of Akkad, AKA Carl, he is a guy who, you know, he's a commentator, he's up on things. He knows about shit. So that struck me as weird when he says that he doesn't even understand why people are talking about impeachment. Hmm.

I'm not even sure what the grounds for impeachment are. What are they even saying that it should be? Is it, is it regarding the phone call that he had with the president of Ukraine? Well, that's the excuse they're using. And the real crime is that John Bolton, who literally thinks we can survive nuclear wars, he's just a stark, raving mad lunatic, but if you read his divorce files, it's really amazing. And you would expect that he dresses in leather dominatrix outfits and he does reportedly.

I mean, this guy is psychotic and anyone with that mustache, you can't trust. And he literally is mad that Trump won't launch all these wars. So this is, he's cooked all this up. So that's the explanation for it. Also, well, you got a kink shame, Bolton, there's so many better ways to attack him. Also, by the way, with that, it don't can't trust anybody with that mustache. For the longest time would Steve Pachennik hadn't revealed his, uh, you know, he was just hiding when he blurred his pictures when he was in Korea and stuff.

The only picture Alex had of him was from the seventies with that huge, perfect mustache. Not a giant mustache, but it was a pretty big mustache. So don't trust people with that mustache, Alex. Maybe he's onto something. That's why he, uh, didn't like anything until blue bloods wasn't a big fan of, uh, yeah. So Alex, you know, he, you know, this is all a bullshit. John Bolton was just mad that he couldn't get his wars. And so, uh, he, he's, he's doing all this great.

That's so annoying. Yep. It's so annoying. I get it. If you like because it's so stark, they have to go so far in the opposite direction. Like if it was just a little bit of that, if it was just a little bit of that phone call and there was no other information, they could be like, Oh, well, you're all blowing it out of proportion and they could at least acknowledge that it exists because it's so

obvious how criminal this enterprise is. They're just like, I don't even know what they're talking about. I've never heard anything. I don't know. I can't hear. I'm dead. Like it's just so hard to the, to the delusional, to the denialist. It's a mess.

So they get to talking about the debate and, uh, turns out Alex is kind of pro Tulsi, uh, which is weird considering that by his own definition, she's a gun grabber, which seems weird. It seems like he literally hates anybody who indicates like he screamed about Dan Crenshaw because he was in favor of, uh, red flag laws. He hates everybody who indicates in any way that they're interested in guns being taken or, uh, restricted. So it's weird that in this clip, he's speaking about her positively, but also brings up the

she wants gun grabbing. Tulsi just blows away everybody else on the stage. She obviously has some spark. She says some terrible things. I disagree with like no due process, cut red flag loss. I'm not supporting her, uh, but she came out and said, we need to end these wars. And she came out and said, quick calling Joe Biden racist, uh, you know, when the left you pushes that it's totally made up.

And then she said that the previous debate and she also said impeachment is dividing the nation. Let's go ahead and play her talking about, uh, impeachment last night. So I mean, like you can say that she said some good things, but everybody else ever who is in favor of red flag laws or gun regulation is a fucking demon. Yeah. I don't get it. It's almost like he knows she's insincere.

I don't get it. Anyway, I think it's probably just because he thinks Tulsi's hot. Yeah. Okay. She's very attractive in the things she says and physically compared to them, but there's just, uh, some people are really concerned that this is, you know, mental judo or something and a sneak attack that really, they're really planning to act like she's the dark horse. They're holding back from us, but then she will surge onto the stage and it's really

a bad news. I, I think that the, the democratic party themselves won't let her win. She's the only lucid candidate they have really young in fact, the only two, that's who we got. And that's because they're not radical Trump hating lunatics. Well, you ain't set that to, well, when we talk about what you said, he said, well, in Beijing, Trump's not going to fix the economy. No.

So I think that there's an interesting thing that everybody's got to be kind of aware of and that is that this world likes Tulsi Gabbard and Andrew Yang universally. Yeah. I don't know why wink, but I, it's strange. Yeah. It's very strange that those two are the candidates that people in the extreme right wing like Alex are cool with weirdly and people who are, you know, more, uh, I don't, I don't even know what you'd call Carl, quite frankly, just a shithead, just a fucking monster.

He's just a shithead. I'm going to call him Sargon of a Carl. I'm not sure it's going to happen. I'm not sure if it's fair necessarily to call him like the same kind of far right as Alex. But he is certainly, he's certainly a shithead. Yeah. But they're all on board with Gabbard and Yang, which is weird. You see the same thing from Robert Barnes weirdly strange.

Why? Don't know. Why do they? Who knows? I mean, obviously the, obviously we know the answer, but God damn it. Fuck them. So in that, uh, clip earlier when Alex and, uh, Carl were having a little bit of a negotiation about whether or not Trump is real, that was one of those moments I thought was really

illustrative of how this works on Alex's show. Like you cannot counter his narrative. If you do, you will be given a gentle push like Alex did there. And if you don't fall in line, it'll probably turn you to a thug. He'll hang up on you. Right. Uh, just end the interview. Uh, Carl went the route of, uh, acquiescing to Alex, thus the interview continues.

And now Alex pulls a power move where he makes Carl report on an article that he hasn't read. Quiddur's made some announcements. We'll tell you about our next segment. Carl, tell us about it. Yeah. Um, I haven't seen this article previously, but, uh, it's on Russia today, but I, I think it's probably accurate.

I know it is. Twitter announced it. We've got five articles on it. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, apparently world leaders are not immune to de-platforming if they cross some red lines, which include promotion of terrorism, doxing, child sexual exploitation, promoting self-harm.

And in the most obvious, they get Trump clear and direct threats of violence against an individual. And so how this works is you have Trump tweets the thing where he's smacking down the CNN reporter as a joke. They banned that. He already did that and they haven't banned him. What? Like there is no reason to, for Alex to say, Hey, Carl, why don't you report on this article

that you haven't read? You can hear the hesitance in, in Carl. The I, this is from RT, I guess it's right. Hey Carl, look stupid. Right. He's reading it and it's like, why, why, why would you have any issue with Twitter having rules where world leaders can't do that list of things? I, I, that list of things is a very clear world leaders should not be able to do those

things. Yeah. Yeah. Also, if you're openly saying in a, the most active dig at Trump, they're banning outright calling for violence against someone specifically. Right. You're saying that Trump outright calls for violence against people specifically or at very least fine with that very least should be able to.

Yeah. Exactly. Which seems bad. Fucking Carl. Carl gone of a coward. Now that Carl has allowed this to happen and he's gone along with it, Alex decides to start humiliating him by speaking in a British accent. You don't want to the internet to blitz and find me that clip.

I, I want Kamala Harris talking about censoring the president immediately. Yeah. It was. Do you want me to do the rest of the interview in this accent? Preferably not. Are you sure, my friend? It's a good English accent. It's a good English accent.

Yes. Ah. Ah. Do you think my IQ just went up? No. My good man. How about we begin a fencing battle? Oh God.

That would be terrible at fencing. A pair of y'all saddles to descend your honor. This is bad riffing. This is, this is a disaster. Like you can, I think that Carl's laughter is probably just like slightly discomfort and laughing at Alex. Yeah. Like this is uncomfortable as shit.

That is. And like a great riff of like, you know, I'm going to get into like, ah, we got a fence. I would be terrible at fencing. That's not the act of somebody who's like, I like what's happening. No, that's not a yes and that's for sure. Not a bootleak bootleaker. God, that's, that is exactly how Saruman treated worm tongue. Like you are a little bootleaking piece of shit.

You are nothing to me. So now Alex has got it into him though that he loves doing accents. He's starting to have fun with that. Sure. So Carl wants to talk kind of more seriously. Right. And like, so Kamala Harris had, you know, suggested that Trump should be kicked off Twitter. And Carl wants to talk about that.

Alex wants to fill out his character real. But yeah, I mean, I can't believe a candidate's just calling for open censorship of the president of the United States. But that to me is wild. It is wild. I want to talk about that when we come back. What do you think of your 70 Sam? I think he was a funny cartoon character.

I hate rabbits. Do you rather me speak like you're 70 Sam for us? You already do. This is not good. Oh, that's good stuff. So look, that's good stuff. We need universal health care. The people are, you know, there's a lot of people who are dying because of inability

to access appropriate care. They, you know, we shouldn't be living in a society where people are using crowdfunding in order to, Hey, what do you think about Bugs Bunny? So good. God damn it. God damn it. You are talking to a child and it is so funny. Exactly.

Do you have to succumb to his whims or else it's going to go very, yeah, yeah. So they start playing this clip of Kamala Harris and Alex has some criticisms of Elizabeth Warren. Sure. Over the video. And I think it's also telling of just his, his infantile brain who has 65 million Twitter followers and is using that form as the president of the United States to openly intimidate witnesses, to threaten witnesses, to obstruct justice.

And he and his account should be taken down. We saw an El Paso. I make physical comments because you're not supposed to. So you know, you know who does things because they're not supposed to children. That's a basic part of like cognitive development. You're supposed to make it through pretty early, but here we see a 45 year old self-described genius defending his use of physical insults against Elizabeth Warren by saying he's doing it because people say he shouldn't.

This is also what you expect to hear like from a rebellious teen trying to justify how they started smoking, not from an adult who spent the first hour of his show rambling about being on a mission from God. It's all good. And I choose to do this show, but Jordan, we're fast approaching a point where my analysis is just going to be a broken record where I shamed the people in Alex's life for not recognizing warning signs. And yeah, it's true that a lot of things that are really troubling about what Alex is doing,

they could be elements of a performance. But I would rather err on the side, like taking this seriously, these symptoms that he's manifesting. In the case that he's putting on an act, then all that happens is I look stupid for being concerned about a con man putting on a show. If he's sincerely operating with this kind of diminished levels of functioning, it's only a matter of time before something goes horribly wrong. And I guess I hope I end up looking stupid then. Like you can't be around this and not stop it.

It's just pathetic, not least, I mean, even if it's even if we're talking about him putting on an act, this part of him talking over Kamala Harris, about Elizabeth Warren, looking ugly is just because they tell him not to. Yeah, this is a fourth grade fucking assembly. They're all in a goddamn gym. Somebody is giving a talk and he's talking to his friend while they're talking. Right. That's it.

He's a fucking child. And that's not even that's not something that you act. That's just him. And it's obviously intended to make people angry, you know, like it's obviously trying to get negative attention from people from like who would be like, how dare you criticize this woman's appearance? And sure, I mean, but that's what children do too. They thrive on this negative attention.

It's the pestering and yeah, it's just he's operating on an adolescent level while at the same time saying that God is to asking him to declare himself a leader and going on this religious quest, which is also something children do. It could be something that children do, but it's also something that is very difficult for even adults to pull off responsible. I just, I mean, it's responsibly is the word there, isn't it? It is something that's going to probably get annoying in our present day episodes. Me giving little speeches specifically directed to anybody who might work it in for wars who's

listening, guys, ladies, call the doctor, someone can help him one and they should because this is not somebody who's well. Yeah. And he doesn't feel like all those jobs are people writing this horse until it dies. Like they are writing the horse until it dies, hope it pays well and never do ayahuasca in the future. Yeah. No kidding.

You got guilt buddy. I hope you do. Have you ever heard of Lady Macbeth? I think you guys might find her instructive. So in this next clip, Carl and Alex are talking about how Alex got kicked off social media and they demonized him because of Sandy Hook. And in this clip, it's a minute long and Alex straight up lies to Carl's face about what he did.

But either way, you took your position on Sandy Hook Bank, didn't you? You know, you, I want to be clear. They put, I always question big events. I mean, this whole ABC just aired fake video, you know, supposedly a Kurds being attacked. They put out babies and incubators. So they misrepresented what I said, then I was approached and they said, look, just apologize if you think it happened because I've been saying for five years, I think it happened.

I said, I see why people could think it's totally fake because other stuff's been fake. And they came to me and they said, Megan Kelly here and I kept saying, I think it happened. I keep it happened. And then she edited it to say that I said it happened. And I went, wait a minute, stop saying that I'm hurting these families by doing this. I think it happened. And if I hurt your feelings, I'm sorry. That's when they went, oh my God, he admits he lied, lost it, lost it, lost it.

It was all, it was all seven. And so we're going to get the tapes from Kelly in these suits where I kept saying, I think it happened. Stop saying I didn't because she's a lawyer. She came literally to get the statute of limitations so they think they could sue me. It's just a whole canard to make my identity Sandy Hook and then to make it that I'm always talking about Sandy Hook when that's totally made up. This is a complete bullshit retelling of his behaviors.

So I mean, this is just rank disrespect to, for his guest, it was like trying to give him an out, which would honestly be a perfectly acceptable out for him to take granted. It might be tough because he's being sued right now. For him to say, like at any point for him to have said, I did believe that I was wrong. I was misled by a number of people who I believe to be credible sources at the time. There's no shame in that unless you're Alex. He can't be wrong about anything ever. And so it just makes a lie is the build on top of each other.

And you just, you're not, they're not having a real conversation. Like Alex is just insulting him, forcing Carl to bend to his propaganda and then lying to his face. This is a disrespectful interview and I don't have any care for Carl. No. I, for somebody who has a lawyer on four days a week, continuing to talk about Sandy Hook would be my first, first bit of advice to Alex is like, don't, don't say anything about it.

Stop. Just stop. Just by creating a completely fictional backstory for what you did. Yeah. No kidding. You're just justifying it in your own mind to pretend that you fucking, oh, it seems also like the behavior that could only hurt Alex, maybe not legally, but because this isn't true.

What he's saying isn't true. It's demonstrably not true. And so the more he says it, the more the audience has an opportunity to be like, that's not true. Yeah. Why are you lying about your coverage of Sandy Hook? That introduces the possibility. You're lying about everything.

Also, I, if I hurt anybody's feelings, I apologize. That is not why you were getting sued. Hurt feelings are not why people sue. I mean, maybe it's part of it. Well, I mean, yeah, small part of it, they did, but so anyway, at this point, they play a video of a woman on Oprah's network, a show on Oprah's network and Carl's there, Alex is there and Leanne McAdoo is back. Oh boy.

Leanne kid out. She's just visiting though. So she's on while she's visiting and they did do a little bit of riffing about this, this lady. I gotta tell you, Trump's ass will give that woman a run for the money. Maybe that's what she's saying is, is like, he had Trump ass envy and she's like, man, Trump's got an ass bigger than, you know, for Winfrey's and she's like, I gotta get one of those.

She's sort of drinking like five gallons of cream gravy every day. That's it. Trump did make her get like 200 pounds. Well, there we go. He goes, I need me one of them big old fat booties like he got. Yeah. Well, it's, I mean, we, we really shouldn't. You like that?

So are gone. Now Alex has transitioned into the trying to impress Carl side of the show. Jesus. So Leanne McAdoo is back to visit. So she sits in with Alex and Carl and the whole thing completely deteriorates into Alex doing some pretty racist riffing about a video he plays of a black woman discussing obesity. Yeah.

I was going to say that, that voice was, uh, yeah, we know what you're doing. The straw man version that they're attacking is that this woman in the video is blaming Trump for getting her fat. Because they've set this up as her argument, they then become free to goof on how stupid she is and descended to all sorts of super awesome riffs about how everyone who complains about racism is just an unhinged crazy person because they've created the false argument. Yeah. And, uh, this was all the rage in the Ray Wing media.

All the outlets have their own articles about this clip and they all have the same angle. Other studies professor says black women are fat because of Trump. In reality, this is a clip of a woman named Brittany Cooper and she's discussing actual issues that Alex would rather discuss fake versions of. If you actually watch the clip or read anything Cooper's put out, um, you'll see that, uh, the things she was pointing out that, uh, put black women at a disadvantage are lower rates of insurance and worse healthcare. For example, those are issues that she's pointing to.

Right. Cooper mentions a theory that racism makes diets not work as well for black women, uh, as they do for white women. And of course, this is just the stupidest SJW W nonsense that Alex and Carl have ever heard. But in reality, there are some indications that this might be true. Maybe not racism exactly, but the experience of dealing with racism. Cooper is specifically talking about research that's, uh, uh, that has grown out of a paper

published in 2001 by the Journal of the American Medical Women's Association. This paper was looking at the racial inequalities in women's health in the country, uh, one of the focal points being that quote, excessive levels of chronic morbidity and disability are widespread among African American women, regardless of socioeconomic position. Because the trend exists on larger spectrum, it's harder for them to chalk that up solely to having to do with access to healthcare or poverty since it's across the socio-politic, uh, uh, economic spectrum. Thus, the author proposed a model called weathering, which quote suggests that African American

women experience early health deterioration as a consequence of the cumulative impact of repeated experience of social, economic, and political exclusion. This includes the physical cost of engaging actively to address societal and structural barriers to achievement and wellbeing. It would be really hard to definitively prove this, uh, theory, but a number of peer reviewed studies have been able, uh, they've been done that tend to suggest that they, they might be onto something. Whether it be a model that explains things much better than other models that people

have looked at, whether it be a strict poverty model, strict class model, a strict model that looks at just a genetic, uh, predisposition for things. Sure. It, it seems like this works, uh, better at explaining the phenomenon that we see. Hey guys, it's easier to lose weight if you don't have the crushing gravity of daily indignity forced upon you. Whether or not that's the case, uh, for everyone, what Cooper is arguing, uh, the way she's articulating it is that, uh, something about this experience that we have, uh, it, it leads

to, uh, to stress changes to the way our body works. And so things that would work normally, uh, so X diet, let's say, doesn't work because of the metabolism changes that stress responses have caused. I don't know if this is a hundred percent been proven, but peer reviewed studies that have been done have indicated that there might be something to this. Yeah. So I'm inclined not to write this off as some kind of just stupid bullshit. Um, and rather that, um, this might be an important conversation.

No. And I would imagine that what also contributes to it is in the same way that women don't have, uh, you know, heart medications are far less likely to work for women is because they're mainly tested on men. Like all these studies about example, yeah, all the studies about diet and all of that shit are almost certainly focused entirely upon white people. So the idea that, uh, it's simply something that people aren't paying attention to or, or studying is, is also, yeah, that very well may be the case.

I'm not entirely sure based on the things that she specifically brought up, but that very well could be a factor. Um, but like, uh, you know, I mean, that could even be applied to weathering. Sure. You know, the point here is that this woman is talking about something real that affects communities that Alex is not a part of and doesn't care about at all. Instead of engaging with what she's actually saying and recognizing that she's not attacking him and not attacking Trump specifically even, she, uh, he has to run

to his safe bubble and create a straw man of her argument to attack. And of course that safe bubble that he has is pretty racist. He, um, so anyway, I mean, it's just, it's just unbelievable. Like the, the, the elements of it are like real stupid, you know, creating the straw man to attack where she's blaming Trump for being fat or something is stupid. Um, and then the other part of it too, is that it's just all over right wing media. Like there's an article about it on the blaze on Fox news.

It's just like, this is a talking point. This is like, Alex is just doing like, he might as well just be riffing on stupid right wing news. Like that's the segment that they're doing. It's just pathetic. It's, it's sad because I need this to be clear. The show opened with an hour of religious fervor, right? Then now he has fucking Sargon of Akkad in studio and he's trying to

impress him with racism. Like that's what the, it's on the same episode. Yeah. It's crazy. So now listen to this. Trump really a back woman. Cause let me tell you that he's got a badonka dog. He has a little junk in his trunk.

He's got an aunt your mama ass. Well, stress eating. Trump's butt now. That means I'm gay. I can't where she was going with that. I apologize. A family show. What happens when I start having fun?

It's a family show. This is what happens when I start having fun. It's a family. I get racist. Uh huh. Man, it's really nice of him to have Lee and Mac adieu on, uh, in order to ignore and talk over her. That's really kind of him.

Right. And she was kind of trying to make a better argument for the wrong conclusion. That is like, you know, there is such a thing as stress eating. And you know, that she would be able to actually cover this a little better. Yeah. Uh, but Alex isn't interested in that. He wants, I think he wants to impress Sargon. Yeah.

That's what he wants to do. It's like, I have made you bend to my will. We're now in this place where I'm the alpha. Uh, I have a dominance in the situation. Now I'm going to curry your favor by, uh, making fun of SJW is like you love to do. I'm bringing you into my fault. You are not contradicting me. You're doing nothing.

I'm giving you these jokes so you will feel more comfortable. And then I won't, you won't be like, Hey, did he be, was he really mean to me? No, I have dominated you and now I will make it all better. Yeah. A magnanimous in your, this is propaganda after care is what's, what's going on. I just gaslit you and now let's have some jokes. So Alex goes to commercial there, uh, family show and he comes back, uh, trying to play baby got back, uh, because of course.

Can he not, can we just not, can we just make that against the rules for him? It's stupid, but it actually works out being really funny based on what happens. Oh! Oh boy. Hello stupid Americans, since I'm all Chinese communists, do I do this? Alex has continued making these very racist voiced Chinese dragon videos. Jesus. So Alex tried to come in with Baby Got Back because they just did that whole she's got

a big fat ass riff before they went to commercial and he's trying to carry that over. Something clearly isn't going right. Oh yeah, no, they might as well put on like the let's all go to the lobby fucking song right there. 30 seconds of dead air and like hit the panic button, go to the racist Chinese video. I know that's if that's your your plan B, we're in trouble. Yeah. Plan A is have him say racist shit about black people.

Plan B, let's play a clip of him being racist towards Chinese people. Yeah. Great work guys. Good stuff. This is a family show. So they get back and Alex talks about how like, yeah, we're trying to broadcast here. Hey, I'm not mad. I'm not mad.

And I think he sounds furious. I'm not mad. There's an old man. No big deal. All right, ladies and gentlemen. Not mad. We are here trying to broadcast as best we can today. And we got Sargon of Accod and Leanne McAdoo here with us in studio.

Guys, what would you call this period of time that we're at in the world right now? This is a deep breath. Just fucking so mad. The hail through the nose is stark. He is furious. Jesus. And he says we're trying to broadcast. Hey guys, we're trying to broadcast in here.

I really think it's a strong indication that what I was saying might be the case. That his crew is maybe a lot of replacements. Yeah. Yeah. Scabs. So then Alex decides it's time to go to some calls. And so he takes a call and it also does not go well. Right now, let's go to info warrior princess in California.

Thanks for holding info warrior princess. You're on the air. I know princess. It is amazing. Isn't it? Yes. Yes. It is good.

All right. Well, she probably didn't like holding too long. Okay. Sorry, Alex. Oh my God. Hi. Sorry. Sorry.

I had you on mute. It's okay. You're on it now. This is an arcade. It's the age of the narcissist and gaslighting. The debate was a rerun of the nagging of the fake enemy news. The baboon throw in their boomerang. Dan, Dan, quite a order.

The classic, the classic archetype of baboons with boomerang. Man, you know what? That's all wrong, but it is all racist. Every part of that, she's creating new racist things to say. It might be, I don't know enough to say what info warrior princess, where she's coming from. It doesn't sound good. So she ends up complaining about how Elizabeth Warren has no fashion sense. Yes, that's worth complaining about.

Alex's response is pretty normal. Well, at least we didn't have to see Hillary up there with her mouth moomoo on every, but we do see Warren with that black shirt he pants on for the past 45 years. That poor girl ain't got no style. Hey guys, get this ladies, get an info warrior princesses number. I'm going to start a show soon. We've got a few of them, the show's collars. Yeah, let's get her on a hostess show where it's just collars that I keep talking about.

I was going to say once, once I heard them laugh, I was like, oh, she's killing. She's going to get a show. She's getting a job. If old man house phone was here, they would run a two man game that is unstoppable. She's getting a job. That's not real. Yeah. Good.

It's a good plan though. I mean, if Alex actually got around to doing it, which I don't think would be wise for him to do, giving his listeners actual like authorship on the show. She did say baboons throwing boomerangs. I think that he knows enough. I mean, we talked about Owen Benjamin earlier. Like he knows it. Like some people might seem like they're right on.

And then they might say something about hold on. It's all the juice fault. No, no, no, no, hit the pause button. It's a dangerous thing to give his collars too much freedom. Yeah. And I think he knows that, but it'll be a really smart thing for him to do if that weren't the case, because they'll work for free. They'll get free content.

And I think it would be, I think that's why he keeps thinking, I got to do that. Anyway, earlier, Alex was doing the big butt riff to try and impress Carl. Sure. It was great. And he gets into complaining about, you know, men demanding they be called ma'am, you know, trying to take some pot shots. Sure. Trans community.

Yeah. Again, just to impress Carl. Listen to how this clip ends. There's a bunch of men going, hell, these women, people open doors for them. Well, guess what? I'm a woman. You don't like it. I'll break your jaw.

And as women, it's ma'am. It's ma'am. Sure, I was in prison two years ago, and I bench pressed 500 pounds. I'll kill you. Yeah. You don't call me a woman, you piece of crap. Yeah. No, I have been like bucked up and being out in Austin, I have had a trans woman.

A woman. A woman. A woman. A woman. A woman. Call me a woman. Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am.

A woman. A woman. Give me your children. Let them sit on my lap. What's that? You like that? That's, I mean, he's said that multiple times now. You like that?

Here's my riff. You like that? You think it's good? It almost reminds me of like- Is that good stuff? Hey, everybody. It almost reminds me of like people at open mics that run a bin. Like something there?

Anything there? Is that stuff? You want to punch this up? I know you're the king of yelling about SJWs. Man. Eh? Carl? Carl, validate me.

I don't know why, but so much, I think it's just her being there. The fact that he has not listened to her one time is so offensive. It is so awful. He might have listened to her a little more in clips that I'm not playing, but it's- Maybe. But he is steamrolling the shit out of her. I will say that these clips accurately portray the feeling of listening to this. For sure.

God damn it. That is so fucking awful. Just, just go, Leigh Ann. Just go. Look at these two people here and he's just absurdly disrespecting both of them. Yeah. It's crazy. That is bananas.

Yeah. It's like that you are, Leigh Ann, this series of clips is living proof why everything that you have said is wrong. Yeah. They hate women. They don't want them to speak. Yeah. So, Alex wants Carl's validation and Carl has an idea for what Alex, maybe what he should

do. You actually should identify as a woman, see what they do. I am a woman. Then you might be allowed to say whatever you want, Alex. There's a clip playing underneath that that they didn't set up in any way. There's just weird audio playing under it. I have no idea what it is. I don't care.

Man. So Carl should know better than anyone that this sort of thing has already been done. Like his fellow internet propagandist Lauren Southern already did this gender prank, if you want to call it that. Sure. So he already knows full well what the result is. In 2016, Lauren did a stunt where she legally changed her gender to male. I guess it's an attempt to demonstrate how easy it is to get that change on your ID card

in Canada. And look how hypocritical the libs are going to be. They're going to be like, you can't do that. Obviously, this was just an attempt to troll and rile up the trans community who she'd made a large part of her career victimizing. That's all this was meant to do. In most of the coverage of this, I can find it doesn't seem like people took the bait. A lot of responses that I found were more focused on how sad this kind of stunt was and how

it demonstrates a fundamental disinterest in learning anything about the communities that she was attacking. Ultimately, most people saw this for what it was. A publicity stunt intended to make money off angering people who care about social justice. And a dumb one. Yeah. Lauren worked for rebel media at the time and already had a career going that was full of sad, offensive stunts.

So anyone who knew what she was about knew what she was doing. I saw some responses that were along the lines of saying things like, this is a great demonstration of the progress being made in Canada where someone's identity isn't questioned and belittled by doctors they consult. Yeah. Which I think is probably the best way to take a propaganda stunt and take the power away from that. I changed my gender to male on the ID.

Cool. This is a great country. Yeah. But, oh. All in all, it was a flop for Lauren. And thus she moved on to trying to raise money for her to go along with the white supremacist adjacent group generation identity to intercept boats of refugees in the Mediterranean Sea. Then she moved on to complaining about how a ton of her fans treat her like shit because

she's a white woman and not subservient to a husband and cranking out white kids. And then she moved on to quitting political stuff in June, 2019. If Alex wanted to do this sort of thing, this kind of stunt, I guess he's welcome to. But I don't think he'd get the response that Carl's pretending he would. I suspect people who just see it as a pathetic desperate man trying to get attention the only way he knows how by acting out and trying to make people angry, which again is what children do. Yeah, I wonder what Carl thinks the reaction would be.

Oh, it would be huge. You'd make so many people mad. Really? I think that's... Is that what he thinks would happen? These guys just do not understand. They just absolutely have no fucking clue. That would trigger the libs.

No, it wouldn't. It would be... It's offensive. Maybe a section of people would. And I think they would be well within the right to be. Yeah, no, he's clearly fucking trying to mock trans identity. Obviously, that's the case. But the response to that for most people would just be like, if you're sincere, cool.

And if you're not, you're a dick. So, fuck you. I think, especially like Alex, I think most people would respond to it with, wow, this is what it's come to. This is bad, huh? This is bad. Oh boy. Really need to sell that bone broth.

Yeah, oh boy. Wow. How the mighty have fallen. So, I think that this episode sucks. Yep. I think this October 16th episode is one of the weirder disasters I've seen in Alex's present day stuff. The bizarre religious fanaticism at the beginning of it, that is nothing.

It's meaningless. Also racist. Probably. The genetically predisposed. Oh yes. Implicitly racist. Yeah. Then pivoting into vain nonsense about TV shows making fun of him.

Right. Then turning into a pageant of trying to sway Sargon of Akkad into liking him. Racistly. Sure. And transphobically. And establishing the power dynamic by lying about the real world lest it enter the bubble of Info Wars coverage. Yeah.

I think it's a terrible show. And you add into the tech problems. Like just the awful, awful dead air. That is so bad. Right. Unfortunately, Alex has a different position. He thinks the show's gone great. Oh, okay.

Good. Hey, I want to take a few calls. I want to say something about the crew. We had an incredible show today. Really? And I take on all the stuff that really gets me angry. And then we have dead air and any little technical problems. I tend to blow up here on air and off here.

But I love everybody. Everybody's doing it. And then not take on their hysteria and their anger when we're empathically focusing on them. Because Leon talks about this. How do you fight this agenda, but not let them take your energy and staring into the abyss become the abyss? I don't know.

It was globalism that made me fat. Exactly. They have nothing. They have nothing. Alex is trying to ask this overarching question after pretty much publicly apologizing for screaming at the crew off air. Yeah. Between it commercial breaks.

If he's bringing it up on air. You have one fucking job to do. If he's bringing it up on air, then that means that he did something real fucked up off there. Yeah. I would assume. I think he threw a sledgehammer. Maybe.

He has hatchets around. Yeah. You know, then he's trying to ask the overarching big question of like how do we deal with the throws, death, throws of globalist and all Carl can do is make a joke. Like a little dismissive joke referencing back to the big ass pageant. Yeah. A callback. Yeah.

This is nothing. This show is terrible. Well, I mean, Leanne probably has something to say, but at this point I doubt there's any purpose in opening her mouth at all. Nope. Jesus. So this show sucks. It's terrible.

But again, like I said, I think that there is value and a need to at least in some fashion keep track of the fact that Alex seems to be in the early stages of pivoting into being a outright cult leader. Yeah. And if that's the case, people should take that seriously. And even if it's not the case, people should take the other things that he's clearly manifesting seriously. If sincere and real.

Yeah. It's only a matter of time for something really bad happens. If not sincere, still, if you care about him, you should not be allowing him to act this way. Yeah. I what wouldn't surprise me at all based on the trends that we're seeing is as like the mainstream quote, all right. Media has has trans has transformed more into Alex's show.

I wouldn't be surprised if next year all of their shows are apocalyptically religious and openly racist and transphobic. I think a number of them already are. Yeah, you're probably right. I don't I don't know what to expect. I don't I don't think that there's a lot of ways for me to know what the the larger right wing media is going to do because it's trending more and more towards Alex. Maybe.

Yeah. If if history is prelude, then maybe that is what we would expect. But also I think that there's a possibility that if things get bad enough, they could course correct a little bit. There may come a reckoning. There might be, especially people who have sponsors a come to Jesus. Yeah. I think that it's entirely possible.

That doesn't mean they'll become good up and up outlets. No, but there is a there is a possibility that they'll start hiding a little bit of this stuff. Right, right, right. Scale it back to it to an extent. But then there are obviously some who are not beholden sponsors who may do exactly what you're saying. Jesus.

It seems good. But we'll see what happens. We will see. Anyway, we have a website. We do have a website. It is knowledge fight.com. You bet. We also are on Twitter.

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