Knowledge Fight - #358: October 18, 2019

Episode Date: October 21, 2019

Today, Dan and Jordan poke around the present day on The Alex Jones Show to see what's going on. In this installment, they find Alex bragging about maybe possibly stopping a potential assassination attempt, waxing nostalgic for the days of trains, and being unable to take any phone calls.

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I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around. Trick novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed we are. Jordan. Dan. Beach to it. Jordan.

I think I finished first. My name's longer though. And my name is in your name. And it's true. Yes. I'm going to keep bringing that up. Is this our question? Keep bringing that up obsessively.

I think so. I think it's a good idea. Dan and Jordan. Yeah. I got you. Sure. Jordan. Like Jordaniga.

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I love pageant Brewster. Fantastic. She was in a thrilling adventure our stage. Perfect season. Andy Richter controls the universe. Anyway, Stan, quick question. I was thinking about this because of news of the day. Sure.

Have you ever had a conflict of interest? Have you ever been in a position to have a conflict of interest? The most I can think is like when I used to manage a movie theater back in my younger days, I was friends with some of the employees. Okay. And so I think there's probably a bit of a conflict of interest there. Like it's tough to discipline people who are you. Right.

I can see that. Sometimes you might have to write somebody up who's your friend. Yeah. Or at least there's friendly relations. Because I was a concessionist and then a projectionist alongside these people and then got promoted to managing. Right, right, right. And so there's two weeks ago I was just...

So the tension between labor and management soon became very real for you. It never really got that bad. It was a movie theater in a small town. There was never a crisis of conflict of interest. Right. I think I'm a 35 year old man. Now I can look back on how I behaved as a 19 year old movie theater manager. And I can say I probably was far more lean.

I probably treated people differently. Okay. All right. All right. People I liked and were my friends. To a conflict of interest, perhaps. Yeah, probably. I never got to like an abuse of authority and never fired anybody or did

anything like that just because I didn't like somebody. Yeah. But I probably was a ruder. Yeah. Well, I mean, yeah. You were Stanford presenting experiment today, I suppose. It was something along those lines. It was a weird period of time.

The idea that like three people who weren't even out of college age were running an entire theater without a general manager for at least a couple of months stretch of time. That's very funny. Yeah. It was bizarre. That's weird. But we did the best we could and it didn't go out of business.

So that's great. You guys are like hiring ad firms and trying to get Don Draper pitching you sit. Dude, not far off. Yeah. Certainly not that high level. Right. A lot of those decisions were probably made at corporate level, but in terms of like, you know, reordering supplies and like putting in work orders.

Really? Yeah. Scheduling movies. Man. Renting the like the films from the companies to play in the. Yeah. There was a lot of admin. Were they trying to soft close that movie theater?

It might have been. Let's see if they fuck it up enough where we can just burn it down for insurance. Low key. They might have been. Yeah. But they failed. Yeah. That's a great challenge.

Take that. We had one last dance off to save the theater. I guess the other conflict of interest was a hated corporate, but that's not a conflict of interest. No, that's you. That's pretty consistent. Yeah. Yeah.

Management positions. I think that's normal. Yeah. So I know a little bit about conflicts of interest and a ton about Alex Jones. I don't know anything about either. And that is the rub of the show today. Jordan. I have a little bit of an apology.

I'm not entirely sure if it qualifies as an apology, but we got it. I don't feel great that we have three present day episodes in a row. Right. Coming in with a 2019 episode and I should give an explanation for that. Hey, because everybody likes it when I'm dumb, you know? What are you talking about? You're losing your mind. It's fun to celebrate when I do something dumb.

Dan, 95% of the time you apologize, you should not be apologizing. I had it in my mind that the last 2013 episode that we had done was the 19th. So when I sat down to prepare what would have been today's episode. Yeah. I accidentally did the day after that. Right. So. Running at two hours of my time.

Maybe. I doubt it. Not even. So I had prepared the wrong episode. So obviously when it came time to record, we did not have the right episode ready. So we jump into the present day, which we, we've got ready for you. And we'll be going over October 18th, 2019, just Friday of last week. Good year.

Real fun time. One of the reasons I chose this date to look into and to check was because the night before the 17th, Thursday, was the night that Donald Trump was in Dallas. Yes. For his rally. Yeah. And Alex Jones was on scene. Oh, no.

He attended the rally. No. So I figured Alex would have some weird nonsense to get into and he does not disappoint. They're pretty, pretty messy. All right. Good. So we'll get to that in just a moment. But first we got to take a moment to say thank you to some people who have signed up and

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I don't recall looking at you like that. Have I been looking at you like that? Maybe I'm just getting that sense. I think you're getting that sense because I might actually be a little loopy. I think we might both be. It's entirely possible. I had a tough night's sleep last night. And you yourself.

It's been a weird few days. Yeah. Thanks for loopy. So that'll factor in and we're going to make it through this. Let's ride the lightning. So, Jordan, we start off today's episode here, the 18th of 2019 with Alex almost feeling like impeachment's probably going to happen. Okay.

So if it's going to happen, if it's going to happen, we, by we, he means his weirdo friends, have to start dealing with what happens next. I don't want to know what he thinks. They are definitely trying to remove the president right now. Yeah, no shit about the aftermath of what will happen if they're able to successfully remove him. A lot of nationalist and conservatives and Christians and libertarians think that President Trump is invincible.

And I tell you, if you believe that, I think you're living in a bubble. We're going to open the phones up on that subject today. Who are you? The NYMAD Drudge is running a lot of stories that show Trump in danger because Trump is in danger. So you can see Alex has now started to recognize the shift in Drudge's coverage. How dare you acknowledge reality? How dare you?

Don't, don't say that. This is like breaking the fourth wall. Don't say that. No, this is. He's not recognizing reality. In a sense, too much, too close to hope. No, because, because what he's doing is he's saying that Drudge is running these stories in order to wake up Trump.

So he's still living in a little bit of a delusional naturally. Yeah. He's still trying to hedge it as like Drudge is still 100% on the team. Don't worry about it when he has no idea what's going on. No one does. That's why all of these, these right wing blogs and publications are going through their motions of like, have we lost a hard guy? Yeah.

Is Drudge turning cares? Anyway, if you think that Trump is invincible, you live in a damn bubble. You're right. And I agree. He's lived in that bubble for quite a while. I was going to say, he's lived exactly in that bubble for a long time. He later gives one example of a person who he thinks, thinks Trump is invincible and stares into a mirror for a while and then just lets it go.

I'll give you one hint about who this person is. Oh, God. He was dating a Nazi. Uh, Sandra Bullock? Hey now. Jesse James, Jesse James is apparently he thinks the Trump is invincible. Okay. So that's good.

All right. Jesse James apparently lives in a bubble by the transitive property of Alex's words. And you know, a lot of conservatives live in bubbles, but you know, who doesn't? Alex's audience. How dare you? A lot of conservatives live in their own bubble. Not as much as left to stoop. They live in a insane asylum bubble, but they do live in their own bubble and you need to

get outside of that bubble sometimes that I don't know our listeners do. That's why we're activists, nationalists, Christian patriots, most of us. Yeah. That's getting out of the bubble. Libertarians want to be free. Common sense folks. I'm not saying somebody's bad out there. If they don't believe in God, that's your issue.

That's your issue. It's literally something that he has said over and over and over again that you are bad if you do not believe in God two days prior to this. He did an hour about how God is the only way to defeat the global right. He did a evangelical tent sermon. It's your issue. It's your issue. It's not me.

I'm just out here. I'm just out here telling people to get outside their bubble. Dan, me, Alex Jones also, by the way, that framing of it is even like, you know, off because it's still saying that like, if you don't have the same religious beliefs as me, that's your issue. As if to imply that's an issue. Yeah. Yeah.

That's not like it. That's your problem. Look, look, we can all work through our issues. Maybe you get some therapy or something like that and you'll find your way into the Lord. But until then, it's just an issue. Yeah. It's implicitly like Christian supremacists just by it's implied within the frame. Right.

Right. Yeah. Which is great. Yeah. Love it. Yeah. He's, I mean, I don't know how you'd describe it, but vicious, vile, it's not how Alex does.

Billious. Deceitful. Did you get Lionel's the source? I'm working on it. Alex has a different description that he uses. I've supported Trump because I know he's for real and I know he wants to reboot the nation. Read his golf course. He's got the power to stop the censorship that's racketeering election meddling.

He's got the power. Put me on Facebook. It's a deep state and really his rhetoric is basically perfect about a 99. My bad. That's not perfect. It's about a 90. I mean, when you talk about pulling us out of these wars, trying to reroute the economy and trying to build the wall, they built quite a bit of it that War Patrol asked them to

replace the hundreds of miles that was basically Swiss cheese, like an old shot up roadside. You know, if somebody shot up 100 road signs of the town and money got funded for new road signs, they replaced the ones that were shot up. You wouldn't say, oh, the, you know, the county robbed everybody. They didn't replace one new sign because they replaced the hundred plus that were shot by shotguns. I mean, but so I wanted to defend Trump, but he's in that position where he could really devastate them if he took a few more steps.

Yeah. I feel like did a total power grab. He could totally devastate the country. Yeah. Yeah. He could really devastate the lives if he short up power, uh, dissolve to the Republic and victory. Absolutely.

Put Alex back on Facebook. I believe that's what he's really going for. Crushing victory. That would be. Oh man. So Alex has this interesting idea about, uh, the, uh, the customs and border patrols being like, we got to fix these hundred, hundreds of miles of fence. And that's why there's no more fence being built because they're like, I know build

the wall. I know. Right. He's got to repair the wall first. So on August 30th, 2019, Politifact put out an analysis of how the old building the wall thing was going. How's it going? Seeing as it was one of the two main things that people chanted at Trump rallies and the

run up to the 2016 election, it seems like this should be, you know, how it's going. That should be a good gauge of how effective Trump has been as president. Well, I mean, Hillary's been in prison for about three years now. So I assume we're doing great. I mean, that locker up chant that was just pandering, even by Trump's admission. So like it becomes even more important to see how he's doing with the other chance. Yeah. The one that's real.

Yeah. Kill the wait. Before Trump took office, there was about 654 miles of, quote, primary barrier along the wall, like fences. Now three years later, no additional miles have been built. All that Trump has achieved is replacing approximately 60 miles of fence, right? Not the hundreds of miles that Alex is referring to that need to be replaced, but 60. Customs and border protection have received $6.2 billion to supposedly build state of

the art walls, but none of it has actually been built. Trump should be against this because it's an absurd level of financial malfeasance. But also because a lot of that money, those billions of dollars, you know where it came from? A lot of it came from the Treasury forfeiture fund. You know, the money that's taken from people when they're arrested or is seized by the IRS really thought he was super against that. Well, yeah, certainly was.

I mean, you know, a strange bedfellows and such. What are you going to do? What are you going to do? You got to get that wall built. Yeah. That's the number of times even if Trump wanted to make this wall, he legitimately couldn't. The border runs across a lot of private property, the owners of which have said they're not interested in selling or allowing a wall to be built on their property.

So you need to have all kinds of imminent domain cases that just never would work out. And that's not even to mention the 118 miles of border that's inside Big Bend National Park, but you can never get approval to build a wall in. If Alex wants to hang his hat on a guy allocating billions of dollars to fix a couple miles of fencing, I guess that's his prerogative, but I feel like if you do that, you're setting the bar insanely low. Like, isn't Trump supposed to be this overpowered, conquering leader? This is sad.

It's sad that he's considering this a victory. I really need there to be some sort of rhetorical referee who could just have jumped in the moment he said that with a whistle and just been like, eh, moving the goalposts, remove 10 minutes from your show. Foul. Continue. Yeah. Yeah.

Get a red card on it. No kidding. Yeah. I guess he's down there to scout locations for the fence. Sure. They assume. Yeah. He had his rally.

Yeah, yeah. And Alex was in attendance, which he speaks about in this next clip. We may get a few guests on briefly that were at the big Trump rally in Dallas last night because. Spoiler alert. He does not. Oh, okay. Because there are eyewitnesses to a lot of what transpired and went on.

It was a circus. And I was there. I was there. I did not even intend to be driving around an armored vehicle with a turret on top, but the security group we were able to get. For our contacts, great folks had that armored vehicle as their main armored vehicle. Okay. Their main armored vehicle.

I don't know. I don't even care to unpack that. It's that's such weird way to phrase. Have you seen these pictures? Alex basically rolling around in a tank yelling at people in a bullhorn. Why would I see those pictures? That's part of the goddamn game is that I can't see those pictures. It's very exciting to see Alex appearing kind of like what you would expect his career

to be based on his earlier career. Right. He likes to bother people. He loves the bullhorn. Right. Tyranny Crusher 74 or whatever. Yeah. 69 probably.

It just makes sense. It fits. I don't feel like it's okay to be using a, an iteration of Tyranny Crusher in the very representation of Tyranny. Right. While writing around supporter. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. That's everything is Orwellian. If he's sitting on a fucking tank at goddamn Tiananmen Square with a bullhorn, he's not crushing tyranny dance in fairness. I'm calling it a tank. It's not really a tank. It's sort of an armed armored Hummer. Oh, you'd describe it.

Okay. Fine. With a roof. Functionally, it's a tank. Right. It's a tank that doesn't appear to have like offensive capability. It's got a turret. Well, not a turret.

Opening. Oh, okay. Like a latch. Okay. I got you. Yeah. That's what he's referring to. Yeah.

Yeah. It does. It does have that feeling. It wasn't that. Okay. So anyway, Alex went out to the Dallas Trump rally and there's some footage flying around of him yelling into a bullhorn while poking his little head out of the top of this armored vehicle.

Honestly, it's sadder than anything else I can think of. Like it's just near parody levels of aggressive militaristic masculinity. It's just a big strong boy. I'm a big strong boy. Everybody. Everybody notice me. I'm a big strong boy. So I watched the video that Alex himself put out of the bullhorning that he did.

And there's a couple of points in that footage that I want to tell you about really quick. The first is that while Alex is driving around bullhorning, there are a number of people who are taping him with their phones. It's unclear if their supporters are just hoping he'll get stuck in that roof hatch and then they'll have a viral video on their heads. So good. Yeah. It goes viral so fast.

There's a person in the shot who appears to be presenting as a real supporter. He's an African-American man with dreadlocks pumping his fist in the air toward Alex. However, if you pay close attention, that is one of Alex's new employees, a guy named Will Johnson, the host of Firepower, which is a show I will never learn about at all. In the video, Alex himself released, I have to stress that he himself released this. Will Johnson is the only person who appears to be a supporter following Alex in the armored vehicle, giving him the salute. Right.

And he's on the payroll. Of course. So this optics is clunky. I don't, well, we don't have any African-American supporters, so what if we paid for one? But it's even less that that I'm resonating with. It's the fact that there's just one person and it's on the payroll. Yeah. He's the only person who seems like really interested.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So there's that. It's probably part of your like opening orientation when you join InfoWars. You might have to pretend to be a fan. So then Alex's armored vehicle parks and the whole thing takes on a very sad vibe. There were about 10 to 15 people around the car.

Will Johnson is one of them. So it's entirely possible. A couple of others were InfoWars employees that I just don't know. Some of the people are just walking past and stop for a moment to see the spectacle then keep walking. At least one of the people in the crowd is wearing a shirt that says, quote, anti-Trump Social Club. And they're just taping Alex on their phone, not causing any trouble or anything.

Someone else is wearing a lizard onesie. Which is fine. Okay. All right. Somebody in the crowd who Alex yells at it. He says that they're MSM mainstream media. Sure. This guy asks Alex if he has any proof that the deep state is trying to kill Trump.

And Alex just yells something about Phil Mudd. Then he plugs InfoWars.com a bunch of times and tries to get it. America is back chant going, which only kind of works. I mean, very lackluster response. That's always sad when you see someone try to get a chant going. It only seems like this is a chant because you have a bullhorn. Look, you only try and start a chant. If you know, you can get a chant going, you know, it's a really dangerous maneuver.

If you're not sure. Yeah. It's been like, I've been to many a cup before the Cubs were good. Back in the, in the good old days of before 2016 and also after 2020, right? It was like, there would be so many people up in the high bleachers, like trying to get a chant going. Drunks, yelling go-cups. Yeah.

And everybody just turned in to look at him and be like, we're all right, man. That's sad. Come on now. But it's nowhere near the level of someone at like an open mic or even a show trying to get a USA chant going. Yeah. It just falls flat. Ooh.

You just feel for him. Even if they, well, it's almost worse if you do successfully get the USA chant going. That's kind of a push. Yeah. Alex looks winded, though he literally hasn't moved and is just popping his little head out of a roof hatch. It's a grotesque macabre picture of a man with almost nothing left in the tank. Yeah.

It's just sad. There's no joy in him at all. He was being a douche, like back in the old days, uh, you know, like, you know, I'm not defending his early work, but if you watch back like videos of him trolling people at rallies in like even the lead up to 2016, that election, there was a spark there. He really seemed like he was having fun when he would go out and yell at people and fuck with them. Getting on in a goddamn tank and bullhorning people at a Trump rally in his home stage

should be the most home of home turf for Alex. He should be owning that space, but instead he just seems like an angry old man in a tank yelling about nothing to drive traffic to his website. Like you look at it, like this guy's got to be miserable. Yeah. That should be the greatest moment for him. He should be like so alive. He's in a tank yelling at people at a Trump rally in Texas.

Yeah. He's like Adam Sandler and funny people, you know, like he's, he's lost his roots. He's trying to come home and he realizes that there's nothing for him at home anymore either, Dan. You can never go home again. It's like treading. Once you sell your soul, it's like feeling like he's, he feels like he's treading water to some extent and you can almost, I'm not doing a good job treading water.

No. Getting ready to be no longer treading. Yep. Also, it should be pointed out that at that rally in Dallas, a man was sent to the hospital for evaluation after police found him to be armed and wearing body armor, which is usually a really bad combination. It tends to imply that you might have an expectation that a shootout might be a likely part of your evening when you leave the house with those accessories.

Oh, he also had mace and a gas mask. Okay, good. But that has nothing to do with Alex, except that he was wearing an info wars shirt. Wow. I mean, so that's cool and fun stuff. There are absolutely really awesome look in his defense. Not many shirts fit over body armor, Dan. I don't.

It might have been under. Okay. Well, a lot of shirts wrinkle when they're under body armor, but not these high quality shield and shirts or whatever because Alex Haynes won't work with him anymore. So it's got to go with another company. I don't know. Anyway, Alex was out there in full effect. He was tank yelling at people having a blast, but not having a blast.

Yeah. But there was a reason that Alex really had to go to this rally. Like you know, Trump rally, been there, done that for Alex seems like you would get older with them. Yeah, you get bored with them. I would say the first reason that the unspoken reason Alex isn't going to use this as an excuse, but he needs a PR stunt. Oh, 100 and riding around in a tank yelling at people is about as best as he can do right

now. And in this day and age. Yeah, that's great. Absolutely. Yeah. So good for that. Yeah. He talks about it in this next clip.

Love. And so I said with Biden coming out on the debate stage three nights ago and saying we need to not fight with each other. We need to focus on removing Trump by the 17th. Well, that was last night. So I just said, whoa, Dallas, he did it 56 years later. Oh, no, do not. All the other bizarre statements by the orange bullets around her wrist and Cory Booker.

I said, hey, everybody's got a real feeling of concern about this. I'm going up to Dallas with the crew. And did we stop Trump being assassinated? Did we stop an attempt at assassination? The world will never know. Yeah. I love that. I love that so much.

How many info warriors does it take to stop an assassination, Dan? One, if they're committed to three. This is that great. Am I a hero? World will never know. World will never know. Never know the sacrifices that I made to protect this dumb, dumb president. So this is complete insanity.

Alex is suggesting that he might have stopped an assassination plot against Trump scheduled for this rally on October 17th. This is more squarely in the genre of Alex insanity that I can get on board with. I love this. This is where I want him to be. I do like knowing that in his mind, presidential assassinations have a certain kind of poetry to them that we could have, like the globals are like, we could have killed Trump at any point in time, but it's the 50 year anniversary.

Come on. Spoiler alert. It's not. Okay. We'll get to that in a second. This theory that he has is based on a clip of Joe Biden from the last presidential election where Joe says, quote, it's so important that we remove this man from office on the 17 and then he trails off.

There's no indication that he was saying the 17th. It could have been anything to do with the number 17, or it's totally plausible that Joe Biden just had one of those thoughts that he gets that don't really mean anything. And he started saying it. No, Joe, whatever the case, it's a separate sentence. So saying that this is Joe Biden saying that we need to remove Trump by the 17th is a bit of a stretch. Further evidence that Alex gives comes from a press conference that Nancy Pelosi gave

where she mentioned her bracelet that she was wearing, which has a bullet in it, as well as some orange ornamental beads to signify safety vests that people wear. Okay. It's a statement piece of jewelry about mass shootings that seem to be taking place in this country. And any idiot understands that, but a special kind of idiot like Alex sees a bullet and puts two and two together. The TV is threatening him.

Subliminal messages are being conveyed, trying to taunt him that they're going to kill his hero. Yes. That is what's going on. I don't understand why you think there's a problem here. You're right. Yeah. That makes perfect sense.

So she's wearing, well, one, she's doing everything necessary. And two, that bracelet is clearly a threat. Done. There's no way around it. No other way. Infowars pointed this out about Pelosi. Quote, her body language seemed unusually shaky during the press conference. Now, that could have been because she was telegraphing a presidential assassination

at the test of the globalist, or it could be because part of that press conference had to do with the death of her longtime congressional coworker Elijah Cummings. That might shake a person up a little bit. Nancy Pelosi had been in the house of representatives since 1987 and Cummings have been there since 1996. It's 23 years. The two of them worked together to get legislation passed, and it would be insane to imagine that his passing didn't affect her.

Dan, you're not understanding Alex's point of view here. That can't be true because he's not white. Duh. Yeah. Or maybe they, you know, she was announcing they're going to kill Trump. So subtly. Okay. That was true.

So subtly that literally only Alex picked up. Yeah. Yeah. That is possible. So I wanted to know more. He's a crack detective. I wanted to know more. Before he got the inforce article about this theory and man, the evidence is overwhelming.

All right. So Kennedy was killed in Dallas. Yes. Trump's rally was proveable. Trump's rally was in Dallas. I agree with both of those facts. So far. So good.

All perfect. Now here's where it falls apart. Okay. Immediately. Oh boy. That's not good. That's about all they, that's not good. No, that's about the only thing that they get right.

Can't get one more detail. So JFK was assassinated on November 22nd, 1963. Fifty years ago to the day, as you might notice, October 17th. Fifty years ago to the day. November 22nd. Fifty years ago to the day. Don't worry about that. Alex, as you covered, I know it seems like, I know it seems wrong.

Seems like it's not an anniversary. I know it seems wrong. So in the article, which is posted before the rally in an attempt to build up the narrative that Trump's life is in danger in Dallas, they have pictures of two calendars. One from October 1963, the year of JFK's assassination, and one from October 2019. You ready to have your mind blown? All right. Dude, dude.

Okay. You ready to have your mind blown? All right. Show me what's up. The 17th. Leap years? The 17th is a Thursday in both years. We'll freak out.

Freak out. Freak out. What? That's all that. That's all that they're going on. What? Yeah. No.

Both years. 17th. No. No. Yep. No. Take that down. No.

I want to cease and desist from, I don't know, from somebody. Spoiler alert. That is definitely still an article that is up on. I want to cease and desist from the literal concept of October 17th. Now, please don't think about the fact that this is a low level coincidence. That means literally nothing. And that October 17th was a Thursday in 2013, 2002, 1996, 1991, 1985, 1974, 1968, 1963, and a ton of other years that I got tired of looking up.

Do you mean all years where a president was either assassinated or attempted to be assassinated? Probably. Yeah. This is stupendous stuff. This is great. Yeah. I love this. What?

What fucking employee was like, uh, let's take a look at when October 17th was? That's it. Guys. Uh, writers mean. Who the fuck? Yeah. Writers mean. What are we doing?

1963. October 17th. That's 50 years ago today. It's not. Okay. Not even 50. All right. Not, not the right month.

I'm going to tell you right now. Alex wants to hear you say it's 50. Now, listen to me. Thursday. Right. Right. All right. I like where I'm doing here.

I like where you're going so far. Get some screen shots. Put it on the website. We're good. We're good. It makes sense. This is a good theory. Uh, just so everybody in the writer's room knows, I love our job, by the way, in case

you were wondering, guess how long this took us? It is 845. Time to clock out. Yep. If there's a sign that info or staff is just phoning this shit in, it's got to be stuff like this, this calendar conspiracy. This is bush league work. Just the definition of a zero.

And like along with these tech issues we keep seeing of like everything not working. Oh yeah. The idea that his writers are turning in something like this, it just has to mean that he, the people are leaving. Oh yeah. Yeah. He just says info wars. No, I was, I don't know who wrote that.

Yeah. Kurt Nimmo wouldn't turn in something like that. Why not? Paul Joseph Watson might. Yeah. Probably not. And he would have heavily edited the calendars to look a very much faster than they otherwise were.

I honestly feel like he would do better than that. And that's not a compliment. No, necessarily. I don't know. I don't even, I don't just bad, but I love it. I just fucking love it. You know what? Here's the worst part.

Here's my, here's my theory. They didn't even come up with it. That is totally something that some asshole posted online and they just, they just screen grabbed it. A hundred percent. They just screen grabbed it. They are that fucking lazy. A hundred percent possible, but I still think it shows a lack of quality control going on.

Not that they ever had good quality control to begin with. No, I know. This being put in an article about how they're going to kill Trump is absurdly transparent and sad. Even in the high school AV club kind of situation here, we're getting into conspiracy message board project Camelot level like, oh, this means that it's, it's sad. Oh shit. If Alex buys a telescope, we're fucked.

Yeah. So we get around to Alex who now is really in favor of what Trump is doing in Syria with the Kurds. That quick, huh? Yeah. Wow. He's really vacillating faster than I'm comfortable with. He is fully on board.

He actually says it's wonderful. What? At a certain point. Sure. Fine. It's bad. First big thing I'm going to hit is Trump coming out and saying, we've got a peace deal and the media, the left and the right acting like he's a devil.

Yeah. What I saw on the ground was people waving Kurdish flags, flipping me off saying half Trump saying, you know, down with Trump with Antifa spitting on us, hitting us. So now Alex went out to this rally and I guess some people who have Kurdish flags were yelling at him. And now maybe that is a big part of his transformation to, yeah, although he was already waffling on being against it in any meaningful way already, like we'd already heard that he was already coming around to sporting whatever.

Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it can't, it can't. He was coming around to believing the last thing that anybody said to him about it. Right. You know, like he was against this pulling out whenever he was talking to Joel Scousen right and then as soon as Scousen's gone right back on, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So he, he ran into people with Kurdish flags and Antifa out at the, the Dallas rally. Sure. Right. And he said there they're spitting on him. They're hitting him. Right. They're people. Sure.

Everybody's got cameras. Everybody's got phones. Everybody's seen it. So we have to have visual proof. I'm not really interested in that at all. Alex keeps saying that he has tons of footage of everything, but there's so much obscenity that it's going to take hours to bleep it all. Sure.

He does this all the fucking time. That's nice. We're going to, we're going to play it. We just got to bleep it. We just got to bleep it. Yeah. It's a very stock excuse for him. I'm not really interested in that.

I don't care if that happened. No, of course not. But not because I think people should get hit because I also don't think it happened. But I don't, I don't, I don't really care to argue that. It's more of what I'm saying. Oh yeah. I just think it's interesting because as we hear in this next clip, we find out how Alex responded to that.

And what they stunk like a septic tank. I mean, these people are just the scum of the earth. So they followed us around the whole time and then they got us all surrounded in the police. We went over to the police and said, please help us. And the police said no and walked away, a line of police, very despicable. And you know, the guys I was with were either, you know, former police or folks that have worked with the police and they said they'd never seen anything like it.

It was very despicable, but it shows where America's gone. I don't believe this at all. I don't believe any part of this story because Alex has spent, I don't know. When did Antifa start becoming a buzzword 1988, I believe he's been yelling since then. If they ever come up to him, he's going to beat their asses. He has the perfect opportunity now. He's at a Trump rally. Someone who's Antifa comes over spitting on him, hitting him.

It's in self-defense. If he wants to kick the shit out of that person, he doesn't do it. He goes and runs to the police. I don't believe any of this. And if it is in self-defense, he should kick the shit out of that person by his own mind just because think about all the publicity he'd get. He talks about how he just turns red. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. He goes blank and he's animal attacking people. One of that is bravado and masculinity and it's not really true. Yeah. Alex would love to get hit and then sue somebody or whatever. Like that would be the dream scenario for him. But just none of this tracks.

The idea that he got hit or spit on and he went to the police and was like, oh, please help us. Yeah. Why would he, like everything about him and everything he puts out into the world. Why would he be the person who goes to the police and is like, I need your help resolving this? Individualism and not relying on the nanny state. Right.

Bullshit. Why wouldn't Ted Nugent want guns at his shows? It's an interesting question. So his big thing was yelling America is back at people. Like that's what he tried to get that chant going. And then people started singing back streets back and there was a whole dance fight. I'm not sure if that happened, although it's more believable than what Alex says happened when he started yelling America is back at demonic leftist.

Okay. All right. Watching people who can't even speak English going if Trump, if America, and I would from the Middle East, and I would say America is back and boy, it was like throwing holy water on Linda Blair and the exorcist when I would say America is back or the Democratic party founded the KKK, they would just go, I mean, just some of them would just start shaking and fall down on the ground and start flopping around. You think I'm kidding.

I've got footage of this. It was like exorcism. When I would say America's back, America's back and they go, well, you've seen the footage of people doing that. They go, so and then they start bumping into things and falling down. I mean, these people are something wrong with them. All I've seen is video of people fucking with Alex. Like I've seen a couple instances of people like hissing at him.

But it's clear. They're fucking. They're hilarious. Yeah. So I don't know. They're having a great time. Yeah. I don't think that he has footage of yelling America's back at people and them flopping

on the ground and hissing like demons. Probably not. If he does, it's a hundred percent someone fucking with him. So this is great. Either that or the weirdest coincidence, the seizure, the grand mal seizure in history. Yeah. That would be a bummer. I doubt that that is the case.

Probably not. Alex is making this up, but I guess we'll find out once it's finished bleeping. Yeah. Spoiler alert. That does not come by the end of the day. Oh, it doesn't. So Alex, again, he's talking here about the situation with the Kurds in Syria, right? And he's, he expresses that he's all for what Trump's doing.

Now it. Well, he would be pro genocide. That's true. Trump has said in public remarks that he's made that, you know, gotta let Turkey clean that place out. I don't understand why you would have any problem with that language. It's certainly language that is shockingly close to other language like cleansing. No, that's two different words.

Root words. Okay. Well, Root. Oh, we're going to start talking about what words mean now. This is 2019. Certainly those words are closer than October and November anniversary. Right. No, I understand.

But the 17th is a Thursday. So it's pretty fucked up to imagine that Alex is okay and supportive of this. But he is. And the thing that's even more fucked up is he doesn't even really seem to deny the idea that Turkey is going to go in and kill a lot of people. Yeah. He doesn't seem to care about that. No.

And in this next clip, you get his only real response and he makes this response a couple times on this episode. And I think it's important. And I want to spend some time on what's really happening in Syria because I've had time to really study it. And fuck off. I have to say, I agree with what the president's done. I think it's very, very well thought out, very, very pragmatic.

And most importantly, he's doing what he said he would do. So I'm going to hit that in the last segment of this hour in great detail. We have a bunch of clips of it. And I saw the left just howling the courage, the courage, the genocide, the mass murder. Where was the media when even the UN admits the persecution of Christians accounts for about 80% of all religious persecution in the world used to be about a third. A decade ago, persecution of Christians had doubled. Now it's really more than that.

I think it's quadrupled. You can pull the numbers up, but persecution of Christians is skyrocketing. His only real angle on this isn't to like refute or even seem to care at all about the actual situation and the people. It's like, why didn't you care about my perceived victimhood? And again, there is a problem with Christian persecution around the globe. I don't believe that it's nearly as high as Alex is saying because the reference that he's making isn't to the UN.

It's like a Catholic priest who gave a speech at the UN that he always cites it as the UN said this. Yeah, the UN didn't put out a report on it. No. The Catholic priest just said it. Yeah. And that's not to take away. And we can trust the Catholic priests.

I think that's something that we've all... They have a good track record. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not minimizing the idea that there are Christians who are in bad situations and are being victims themselves, absolutely. But that is not a good excuse for why he shouldn't have to care about what's going on in northern Syria. No, he's literally saying this is your fault.

He's what abouting the atrocities. I mean, not just that, but almost drawing a causal link between them. If you had been there for my perceived links, then I will be there for yours. Right. Human rights is conditional. Now, I get to watch people die. That's what you get. Yeah.

His commitment to human rights is conditional. And that's a problem. Yeah. You can be against all genocide. It's possible. Yeah. I've seen it happen. It's not possible for Alex.

No. Or at least it's not something he's interested in, which is bad. So Alex is being sued for his coverage of Sandy Hook and his behavior in that time period and around that subject. He just lost another appeal on that case recently. He says that it's not true, which is what that he lost the appeal. Yeah. Okay.

The situation was he was trying to get the case thrown out and it didn't work. So he appealed the decision to not throw out the case and he lost that appeal. Right. Case has to go forward. And they were like, yeah, again, we are not throwing this lawsuit out. They're just pushing back all of his stalling delaying obfuscation tactics. They're just not working. So Alex, every time he talks about it, he always has to be like, everyone says I lost

this case. I didn't lose it. Like creating a straw man. Yeah. Who cares? Yeah. In this next clip though, he seems to be creating a completely fictitious version of what that lawsuit is about.

I don't understand. I'm being sued by the Sandy Hook families backed up by the Democratic Party when claiming false advertising and say that my fortune was made on Sandy Hook when I barely ever even talked about it. And so basically those lawyers and law firms have attached themselves to the success of the show using stuff we barely talked about to continue to say they're being victimized by me. It's a form of waving the bloody shirts, what it's called.

But they're saying that there's an advertising formula to what we cover here. No, we cover what the big news is. Ha, ha, ha. But when Tom Arnold comes out and says somebody needs to kill Trump and Dallas, you know, we cover that. Oh, the big news. Tom Arnold talking shit, which I don't even, I didn't even look into that. I don't know if you don't care because you know what?

It's not big news. Yeah. Do you know what else? It's not the 90s. I'm fine. So true lies didn't just come out. I don't care what Tom Arnold has to say. The issue with Alex isn't false advertising.

It's like unjust enrichment. It's the idea that he profited off of slandering people. He doesn't understand that concept. No, I think he does. And he just doesn't want his audience to. Oh, well, fair. It's, it's in his best interests for it to be presented this way. Right.

Right. And I would say that I don't believe him for a second. I think that in our 2013 when we got to the Boston bombing, the way he's so gleefully is talking about his increased traffic, the way he's leaning so deeply into this sensational bullshit coverage that is irresponsible and is something he could probably could be sued for by the people in those pictures that he found on 4chan, the way his behavior is being led by the increase in traffic. I don't believe that he doesn't have some kind of a strategy, you know, whether or not

it's on paper or they have meetings about it. It's very clear that he recognizes when there are things that are popular and he goes in that direction. Yeah. Yeah. Up to the standard of unjust enrichment. I have no idea, but to pretend it's not a real phenomenon. I think is it strains credulity.

Yeah. Here. Yeah. That's bananas. Yeah. So Alex, though, he just goes for the big stories. You know what I'm saying? Big stories.

Yeah. I'm pretty sure that was a, it wasn't OJ complaining that they were blaming him for false advertising me when I tried to put out that book. Yeah. False advertising. He didn't do it. If he had, if he had, this was false advertising is false advertising. CNN though, they're the opposite.

Yes. Of course they are. They just lie on purpose. Naturally. But with CNN, it really is their marketing strategy to push the fake Russia gate and now the fake impeach gate and all the rest of it. But Trump is a public figure. Trump's argument is though that they are defrauding the general public as a consumer

class of information who believe that they're supposedly getting accurate info and that CNN is consciously lying to them. It's like that famous movie that Andy Griffith stars in, the face and the crowd, how to watch that again. Yeah. Another movie reference. Yeah. Yeah.

Great. So what he's talking about is I guess Trump's team or somebody is trying to sue CNN based on James O'Keeffe's latest stunt. I don't care. I don't care at all. I didn't care to look into this because I just, I don't have the patience for it. It's gonna get thrown out. Yeah.

I only have so many hours in the day. Yeah. And quite frankly, the only thing I'm really interested in about this is Alex likes the idea of a representative of the president or his campaign suing the media. Yeah. That's not okay for him. No, no, no. You want the executive branch of the government to control the speech of the fourth estate.

That makes perfect sense. Alex talks about things that are chilling free speech all the time. Right. Right. I have to think that this falls under that heading. No, no, no. Instead, he's all about it. He's for it.

Who cares? No, you want to make sure that the media cannot report on certain things without constant fear of retribution, Dan. That makes perfect sense. That's what the founders had in mind. It's not chilling. It's warming. It's ice cold.

It's real bad. Yeah. So people don't talk about the heat deaths. So Alex gets into, like he's complaining about us being in the Middle East and shit. He's like, Trump's bringing people home, which is in direct contradiction to what he agreed with, with scousin and reality, that too. And he's like, look, we get all this money that we spend, right? There's better ways that we could spend that.

Yes. And I don't disagree. Agreed. And I actually don't even disagree with what he ends up talking about as something that we could do. Okay. You know what, five trillion in roads and bridges and fast rail would look like to jobs in this country.

How about we don't be in as much debt and we spend three trillion on that? I'd like to remind you that Alex is a libertarian. Yeah. But you see, that investment was for China, not here. Our trains go 40 miles an hour. Our trains went 150 miles an hour when my dad was a little kid. What the fuck are you talking about? Two and a half hours to drive from their ranch to Houston, to downtown Houston.

They could get on a train and in 50 minutes they were in downtown Houston. And you get off the train and go see the museums or go to restaurants. The train went 150 miles an hour at cruising speed. My dad's only 70 years old now. But when he was 10 years old, he could go to Houston. In less than an hour. My train to Houston now, it takes four hours from there. We have had no infrastructure built of any type that's real and lasting since the 70s.

I mean, look, like if Alex were looking for a president in recent times who agreed with him completely about shifting spending toward infrastructure to build up high speed rail, that president would be Barack Obama. What if you changed his name to Donald Trump, though? I don't think he's doing that. Oh, I mean, first of all, no name changes. But also I don't think that Trump is nearly as big an advocate of high speed rail as Obama was. Oh, he's uninterested in an entirely.

It wouldn't help him out. But if you said that it was Donald J. Trump who supported it, maybe all the supporters would support it. What if we just made sure that there were stops at each of his hotels? I bet it seems like there would be so many good things that we could do if we just tricked him. Right. That would be how you do it. Just like leaning into the emoluments.

Yeah, absolutely. You want to get rich? Fine. But we're going to make our lives better too. Yeah, yeah. Attach his gain to every social progress. That'd still be terrible. Put his name on shit.

Fine. Whatever. Universal basic Trump income. Whatever. It's strange. I've never heard Alex Tipis had to Obama's consistent efforts to build up high speed rail networks. Strange. Alex never talks about how Republican governors in Ohio,

Wisconsin and Florida literally rejected federal money being offered for just that goal. You see, people like Alex want high speed rail, but they don't want the government paying for it, or at least not Obama's government. They much prefer the fantasy of businesses building up this high speed rail network. The private sector markets. Right. Like a lot of libertarians don't even want the government paying for roads.

Like it's ridiculous. Fine. Go away. And you know what? The idea that businesses are going to build up this high speed rail, that's probably never going to happen. Of course not. There's a number of reasons why.

Money. That's what is at the root of all of them. See, they would make more money without high speed rail. Right. And if we had high speed rails, they would make less money. Yeah. So they will buy up everything possible to keep high speed rails from happening. There's a reason it takes so long to get somewhere by train now.

And that's because the railway system in this country has and has had for decades. It doesn't exist primarily to serve passenger needs. With the rise in the prevalence of the automobile and the greater accessibility to cheaper air travel, people didn't need trains to get places nearly as much. And the commuter focused rail market became way less profitable and harder for companies to justify starting as far back as the 1930s. Most rail lines prioritize freight traffic. And this makes passenger rail experiences even less appealing.

Since sometimes you can end up having to wait for a passing freight train to go by at a crossing, you end up adding a bunch of time to your trip. Pardon parcel of this is that most rail lines are built to accommodate freight traffic. And thus, even though passenger trains are capable of traveling much faster, they're bound by the speed limits that apply to freight travel. Because to operate differently would require an overhaul of many structural elements of the tracks, which again, no business has the financial incentive to do. There is no way that this is going to become profitable for these businesses to operate differently.

Of course not. Freight traffic is what their business model is built on. Right. Changing that would be so, it would be ridiculous. Well, not just that, but it like the reorientation of... Part of this is just because oil and automobile execs in the 1930s brought up all the possible ways that a commuter system could be built because it would be more efficient and they would lose money.

It's a giant piece of it. Yeah, they're trying to kill this. I think Alex might have had someone tell him about Ayn Rand. Think that might be... He got drunk at the Trump rally and someone told him about Ayn Rand. Hey, we're going galtz. So I personally love a train. And I've taken the Amtrak back to Missouri a few times.

It's been a fantastic experience. I really enjoy it. Being able to look at the side of it, see the... Yeah. It's a very soothing for the most part. As long as people you're on the train with aren't monsters, then you're good. Even taking the metro to Milwaukee is more fun. Sure. I'd rather do that than drive anytime.

Yeah. I'm very much with Alex on the idea of expanding rail in the United States. But I think he's a real idiot if he thinks that any business has the kind of profit incentive to take on this ridiculous amount of financial losses that would be required in order to pull it off. The only way we're ever going to have high speed rail in this country is a massive publicly funded project. No!

Oh, sorry. Short of that, the money is in freight. And it doesn't seem like that dynamic is going to change anytime soon. So if Alex is advocating for this, that's big government. So if he wants to do that, great. But then you've got to recognize that you're drifting into socialist territory. Right, right, right. You're drifting into using tax money for all of this public works, which seems to run counter

to a ton of what Alex believes in. Yeah. I mean, conservatives love all of their closely held beliefs that were bought and paid for by lobbying and propagandists. But then when they come up against reality, they have to find this weird kind of pushback there where they're like, no, no, no. Let me twist my brain into 18 different pretzels so I can get to you how the government can pay for it, but they won't.

But they will, but they're not. And it's a good idea. And the thing that's really fucked up about this is like Alex and I could probably find common cause to an extent on this. Of course. Of course. The idea of spending billions of dollars would create a ton of jobs. You'd have an amazing thing that would come out the other side of it.

It would be like a public works kind of project. Absolutely. I think we could get together a little bit on that. Right. And so that's not what I'm arguing with him about. Right. And then you'd say Barack Obama would be like, no, kill him all. And then he'd start hissing and flopping on the ground.

Exactly. Exactly. And then I could video of it. And then you got it later, but you got to believe a lot of shit. Yeah. Yeah. It's even when he's having a seizure, it's a family shit. I love the idea that you just said you have to bleep a lot of shit.

But like the point that I'm making isn't that I disagree with what he's presenting. It's that I know enough about his beliefs to know that he could never actually believe this. No, of course not. Even if I guess he would, if Trump presented it, he'd just be like, yeah, great. Yeah. No matter what, he'd find a way to work his brain around it, but it's so counter to just what he, like his, what he acts like he believes in.

Yeah. So I just, I don't trust him is what I'm saying. They don't know what they believe they're paid. People pay other people to make them believe shit that isn't real and is actually counter to what they know. He knows that it's a good idea to build high speed rail. Right. And to use public money to do it.

Right. Yeah. Absolutely. So Alex gets into complaining about Chinese people and how they have great trains. Oh boy. They got trains coming up that'll go 350. You imagine getting somewhere 350 miles away in an hour. That's almost as fast as a jet airplane.

We can't have that because we haven't ever repaired any of our railways because it was decided. We're not going to have that anymore. It was decided. We're not going to have that anymore. Who decided it, Dan? Well, from very early in his presidency, Obama was trying to get high speed rail to be a priority and the GOP impeded him on that issue.

I don't understand why. Not all of them to be fair. Some were okay with the idea, but you know, there was an impediment, just program going on with Obama. They were just like, no. Well, any success that he had would reflect poorly upon them. Just knee jerk now. Yep.

We could have made this a priority when we had a president who was committed to it when he was pushing for this back in 2009. And it could have made massive progress within the last decade. But Alex was too busy back then making documentaries about how said president was a communist infiltrator. Yeah. You know what else we could have done? He could have just fucking done it, Dan. We have learned that now.

He could have just fucking done it. It might not have been the best thing to do, though, even though he now realized that that is apparently an option. Still doesn't. I'm not sure it's the great option. I don't know, man. It's a bigger debate. It is.

I think it's probably true that if you actually do the things that are good for people, even conservatives on the ground will be like, oh yeah, my life is better. Fuck. You know, some people come around. Yeah. You find the results. If you're making, if the only people who are really getting mad are rich people, then you're doing it right.

Yeah. So Alex gets back into talking about the serious situation. He just sort of touches and goes. And he just sort of like, yeah, gonna hot potato this thing. You know, that sounds weirdly suspicious to our current foreign policy. Yeah. There's just touching. Hey, whoa.

Hey, look at you. All right. That Alex is sort of primary thing is you guys don't care about Christians, so I don't care about this, which is childish as fuck. Yeah. And now he sort of articulates another reason why he's totally cool with Trump's actions. And I said, I'd get to Trump. You know, he just gave a speech.

He's still giving statements in the White House on why he did this. And is it going to be perfect? No. But Turkey was already doing incursions. They've been doing incursions since this war started eight, nine years ago. They already had taken areas so it's Southern Syria and Western Syria. They have that huge border along and under Trump, they left, but that's because the deal was made that if Turkey did that, they were going to get this autonomous zone.

And now Turkey's saying, Hey, we're getting that 20 mile exclusion zone to keep the Kurds out. Or we're going to give you three plus million people that are refugees into Europe. So and Trump goes, Oh, that makes sense. All right. Well, great. Yeah. Did it.

So Alex, his other defense is this is the other option. And if we didn't do this, there would be more refugees in the West. Right. Right. Right. So that's good because he doesn't want, you know, demographic rates to shift in the West. It really does seem like foreign policy decisions were framed to Trump.

Honestly, either you let us kill all these people or we send brown people your way. And he was like, Oh, kill all those people. If that's actually the conversation that's happening as opposed to Alex's perception of it, then that's fucked up to a level I can't even begin to describe. Yep. So Alex doesn't want there to be more refugees going into the West naturally because of, of course, he's wants there to be more white people around relatively speaking. And so he starts talking about, you know, like what these refugees bring to the, to

these countries. And this one is absurd. They literally tell the 14 year old girls in German after school programs, Hey, go ahead and get yourself an adult Muslim husband. They have little 14 year old girls on TV going, here is my husband, he is 24. He goes to my school with me. And I was like, Yeah, she's my bitch. I mean, you know, this is just sick.

Cocking by the left. This is a family show. It's a family show, Jordan. Family show. Oh, daddy, what's cocking? Well, son, yikes. So I'm going to skip this next clip because it's just Alex saying that it's just rearticulating the point that like, I only care if you cared about Christians, I'd care about that.

Yeah. And that's sort of repetitive. But there's a Madness, Mad Dog, Jim, right, right, right. He came out and made some jokes about Trump. Yes. Speech. Yeah. And here's Alex's response to that.

Well, Mad Dog, Madness is loved by the corporate media because he's an effeminate, a feet joke. Right. Right. It's so, it's so pathetically consistent. Just anybody who says anything bad about Trump, just fucking a feminine, just attack them. Man. Yeah.

I, I, in a sense, I'm, I'm on his team. Fuck Madness. Fine. Like all of these people who come out after they've left the administration and then start talking shit should be right on board with the Nuremberg trials. Like you're, you're the problem. I think any speech they have should at least be. I am so sorry.

I am part of the issue and I killed a lot of people. And if it's, if it's not, then people in the audience should have a lot of pointed coughs in the middle of their speech. No. Yeah. I, I'm almost at the point where it's like, listen, just slink away and well, if we never hear from you again, we'll all close our eyes. We'll call it a day.

You, you speak in public, you go in a cage. That should be the rule. I, I, I kind of feel, I mean, I don't know about caging people, but I kind of feel similarly about Alex, like in the hypothetical situation where he turns on Trump, it's like, you go away now. Yeah. You slink away. You don't, we all pretend it's never happened.

I know that you feel like you can help in some way now that you've realized Trump as a con man and all this shit, which you knew from the beginning, no shit, but you can't. So shut up. Go away. Yeah. And I do, I do think that a lot of these people from the administration probably should except for Anthony Scaramucci, because I think he has something to bring to the table. He's got, he's got it.

He's got something to bring to the table. That is definitely true. The rest of it should go away. So Alex gets to this point of the show where he wants to take calls because it turns out that none of the people from the rally are showing up and so, or at least like he said, he was going to have some hypothetical guests and there aren't any. So he decided to take calls and he wants to do a challenge and that challenge is he wants to take 10 calls from people who disagree with him and think Trump should be impeached.

How many do we get to people that disagree? You're welcome to call as well. I'm not giving the number out yet because I want to give the first round of callers. Let's say the first 10. We're going to open the phones up first for 10 callers who disagree with me and think that Trump should be impeached, but I'm really asking you to be serious. I don't want it to be tongue-in-cheek. You know, damn well, no one who listens to your show is going to give you a serious

disagreement about that. Anyone who disagrees with Alex and is listening to him is doing it to laugh at him or his name to me. Yeah, like there's nobody at this point. No one's fucking listening. And if they are, they're not calling in. No, it's a comical idea. So your question, how many?

We'll find out. Okay, we'll find out. He wants to take 10. So Alex, he's, he's, you know, he's getting ready to open up the phone lines. And I don't know what the hell, I don't know if he's like got an, his phone lines are like an old Camaro out in the cold. You got to go turn it on. You got to warm him up for a little bit on the defrost go back inside, make some tea.

Well, if you go from, you know, zero to 60 without warming the car up, you can do some serious damage there, Dan. I think his phone lines must operate the same way because he opens the phone lines and then it is a long time until any calls can take. He actually has a whole man house phone on a switchboard. That's what he's doing. Yeah. Um, so he gets to rambling about other things and he's found that there is a

group that has revealed the climate change protest is not really about climate change. It's all a red herring. Oh, damn, those groups. There's another article. I forgot to get it was from last night. One in fours dot com. Just so many articles.

Extinction Rebellion head. Whatever the hell it's called. The group that takes over and blocks everything around the world. They admitted we're here to low heterosexuality abnormal and reduced population. And climate change isn't real. It's our excuse to stop humans. There it is. Extinction Rebellion co-founders.

It's climate protests. It's about ending idea. Heterosexuality is normal. It's not about the climate. See, of course it's not. It's about them dictating and some weird anti-human cult run by Peter Singer. So, uh, we get this group Extinction Rebellion. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

One of the things they do folks a little misguided sometimes. I don't know a ton about them. So I don't feel like I can say a pro or against a strategy or a statement about them. Yeah. But one of the things I was reading about is one of the things that they do is try and get arrested. Like I said, it's a big part of their strategy in order to bring attention to the protests that they do.

I don't know. I mean, there's a diversity of tactics that are probably required in the, in the world. I don't know. Anyway, a couple of quick points. First, Extinction Rebellion is an environmental group that has existed for less than a year. They were founded last Halloween.

And as best I can tell, they have nothing to do with Peter Singer. They were, wait, they were founded last Halloween? Yeah. The 17th wasn't on a Thursday last holiday. Oh, no, that is it. Yeah. Whatever it is in this circumstance, that is it. So also the other thing is this is just about an old medium post that someone from

Extinction Rebellion wrote about how the climate activism and being involved in that isn't just about the climate specifically, but it's about the quote toxic system that is infected the way that we relate to each other as humans and to all life. This post is not a gotcha moment where the climate activist slips up and admits that climate change concerns aren't real. And this is just about forcing Alex to kiss another man or whatever. It's about understanding that climate activism exists in a broader lens than

just being about climate change. And honestly, I think stuff like what this guy is talking about is really important. The path forward, if we're going to take care of these issues and survive and coexist, it has to involve greater social and class justice and equality. Or else what you're going to do is you run the risk of finding climate solutions that only serve to deepen gaps between segments of society. It's important as things become more serious to be deeply committed to

solutions that don't veer into eco-fascist territory. And that's what I see being expressed in this medium post. But Alex thinks that it's about making straight people feel weird. Yeah. That's where we get back to the club of Rome, like with that, the interconnectedness of all of these problems. The problematic. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. And I think that it's, um, it's important to think about those things. And it's important to, uh, not view things so, um, uh, granularly, right? That, uh, you lose sight of the larger picture. And I don't, I don't know. I'm not, I'm not saying I fully support everything that this person believes or anything, but from the right wing blogs that were attacking him that I was reading, it's like, I don't, I don't see, I don't see what you see here.

No, but you don't need to see anything. And they don't need to have anything. They just need to tell you that they have something and then you'll believe it. Sure. That's how conservatism works. So Alex comes back from break with some Ennio Morricone. Okay. And, uh, he starts talking about how he's got to go home and watch the

Good, the Bad and the Ugly. Oh, that sounds good. I need to go home tonight and turn the lights out in the bedroom. Maybe watch the Good, the Bad and the Ugly and just travel to a far away place. Then I want some tequila. No tequila for me. All right. All right.

So I have all the phones up for folks that disagree and, uh, there are very few calling in that disagree. What a shock. What a shock. Every time I'm out, he pulls me back in with, I want some tequila, but no tequila for me, no tequila for me. I am being told. So that's good.

Um, Alex gets to rambling cause there's not many people calling in, which is not too surprising. Um, and he gets to talking about how like, look, man, everyone says that I got drunk and put a million dollar bounty on the opposing council in my Sandy Hook lawsuit. Sure. And I don't know why they say it, except for that. I did do those things.

They say that I encourage violence cause I said I wanted his head on a spike. And I don't know why they would say that because I did that. They say that I encourage violence. Ah, we should kill him. Uh, he does, uh, he seems to look at his own career and his behavior slightly differently. Okay. Um, and then he has an interesting, uh, suggestion of how the globalists can win.

All right. Well, the last thing I do was sit there and actually say I want physical violence against these people because that's what they do. I'm not stooping down at level and I don't want to make them martyrs. Look, the only way they could win right now is assassinating Hillary and blaming it on us. Uh, and so the idea that I want violence, the idea that I'm pushing violence, the idea that patriots are doing that is just ashenine.

It's the left assaulting and harassing people. The left is the violent ones. And, um, the, I, I, I, what I hear here is a silly, uh, scary thing. You know, it's a skin, it's right in the middle there because I, I'm old enough to remember when that dude sent a pipe bomb to Hillary Clinton. And George Soros and all of these, uh, these enemies of the anti-globalist left, right, excuse me. And, uh, I remember that Alex said that that was a false flag and I hear in

what Alex is saying, these things, uh, almost a wink of, uh, if someone kills these people, it's just the globalists doing it to set us up, which is so consistent in his career, but it's always so jarring in the present day and talking about hypothetical murders that could happen. Um, yeah, it's almost like, Hey, we got your back if you do it. And I know that's not what he's saying, but there's a way you could hear it that way and a little troubling. He's not saying that if you did it though, he would, but he's not saying that.

He would absolutely cover for anybody who killed one of his enemies. It would obviously be a false flag attempt in order to make his team look bad and get sympathy and pity for the globalist. And he's not saying that he would cover for you. If you did that, he's just saying that, you know, he would cover you. If you did that, you already know it. He doesn't need to say it. He's not saying it, but you know it, you know it.

Yeah, but he's doesn't need to say it. Right. And I don't think that that's necessarily like persuasive or would get someone to do something violent, but it is a strange thing to be like fully aware of. Yeah, anybody who listens to his show, at least on a subconscious level understands that. Yeah, I don't know.

Anyway, Alex was out at this Dallas rally, right? And he was saying, you know, wait real quick. Uh, I didn't see the end of the rally. Did they kill Donald Trump? No, okay. Nothing happened. Oh, good. Then I, I mean, that does ruin the mystery a little bit on this episode, but

otherwise I think we're good. Can you believe they missed the anniversary? I know. Nothing happened, but Alex got yelled at by Antifa and apparently some people have Kurdish flags. Um, so this next clip is really interesting to me because it's deeply racist, deeply racist, but in, in, in what he's saying, like the literal words are him. He's trying to argue that he's not racist, right?

But in the way he makes his argument, he shows and reveals a deep racism. Now it's all, but it's also important to point out that I don't believe this happened. No, I believe it's an imaginary scenario that Alex is constructing to tell his audience to demonstrate that he's not racist, but in doing so, yes, reveals a deep racism. Gotcha. And a bunch of them looked at me real weird and stopped because this was the

lowest level Antifa, actually about half of them actually were Hispanic and black and stuff. And they were being directed by the other Antifa that were, you know, college professors and people in mass and they were like, huh? They're like, huh? Well, you don't hate us. And I said, no, you've been lied to. They're like, oh, that's on video too.

And I'm like, yeah, dude, they couldn't believe I was saying down with the KKK. They just, they were, well, we're sorry. They really believed that. Now is the critical time to keep him for wars on the air cut off by the break. Oh, so the way Alex is presenting this, there's the low level Hispanic and black, largely Antifa, who are being directed lowest level, Dan, they're being directed by the higher level smart college professors who we are led to assume are not, I know from context when he talks about this, he always calls them

like white meth head. Yeah, so he believes that there's a hierarchy structure where the, the, the white people are directing things around. There's, there's a white supremacy in his false version of Antifa. Right. And he thinks, he thinks that he's revealing that they are racist by having this hierarchy, though, because they obviously don't. And he is imagining that that is how it obviously would go.

That's one, that's one part of it. Yeah. And then the conception of these non-white, low level Antifa people being so dumb and fooled, fooled by the white overlords, that presentation is fucked up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is, that is insanely fucked up. So congratulations, Alex. And trying to argue that you're not a racist, you have revealed a insanely racist view of the world.

I have not heard a racist once try to convince me that they were not racist without doing it racistly. It's never happened. It does seem, it does seem just never happened. Yeah. Even when they're trying to lie, even when they're trying to be like, haha, I don't hate black people because blah, blah, blah, blah, and they're like, and I never say the N word, blah, blah, blah, what, what, what are you doing?

Yeah, very messed up. Yeah. So that happened at the rally. Alex imagined that he was, you know, really flipping some minority Antifa people over to the side of liberty. Absolutely. Not hard. But also, like I said, there was that guy who had a gun and a body armor and

an infowars shirt, right? And you would expect that Alex might hear about that and then either not talk about it or say it was a false flag or say, you know, trying to demonize the Patriots or something totally different perspective. That's what buddy did also a man with a gun wearing helmet vest arrested outside of vent and he was wearing an infowars shirt. And it turns out Owen was able to get contacted by him. I've invited the fellow on the show.

I haven't got a word back yet. And it turns out he was just there in case the antifa attacked exercising a second amendment, sure. Not planning anything violent with no one or the president. Uh, but it turns out that it's not fake news. The gentleman says he was wearing an infowars shirt, I guess under his jacket. Uh, but they sure made that into a big deal. Yeah.

I wonder why wonder why guy with a gun and body armor at a, at a fucking Trump rally, I wonder why that's a big deal. I got, I mean, technically in Texas, it's not illegal to have body armor on unless you're a felon, if you're a felon, you can't have body armor. Sure. Great laws. Sure. All, all good stuff. Way to, way to solve the problem of guns there, Texas.

You got us. I don't think that the guy's doing anything illegal, but I do think it's a, it's not good for people to be out. Like I would say this probably also if someone on the left was out protesting in body armor, right, right, right. A gun, like I would still say, like you, when you do that, you highly, highly escalate the opportunity for you to need those things. Right.

All right. Um, and I, I just don't think it's healthy. I really don't. I mean, the only, like the only time it makes sense is when the escalation has already occurred without you, you know, like I, I'm fine with the black Panthers in the sixties walking around armed, watching the cops, different exactly. That's what I'm saying.

Or people in different situations now or in Hong Kong or, you know, those are different scenarios. The escalation was already passed long before they ever got there. You're just at a fucking stadium with a bunch of people who you like. Yeah. You know, what are you expecting? Antifa is going to show up and hit you with something and then you can kill them. Yeah.

That's, that's all that's going on. Yeah. That's pre-meditated, preemptive self-defense murder is what I would describe that as, I don't think that that, I don't think that flows off the tongue, but it's not a bad description. So, and this next clip, Alex, I think really you get to the core of his feelings about Trump and that is that I would describe this 30 seconds as I love Trump, but fuck, I want to get back on Facebook.

That's really all I hear. All right. I love Trump. He's done an amazing job on so many fronts, but he's not stood up for the persecution of his supporters. He hardly ever talks about how they get beat up outside of the arenas because he thinks that will scare people away. He needs to say, don't let these bullies stop you.

More need to come. I'm going to have a rally in a hundred thousand, you know, group. He needs to call their bluff and he needs to speak out against the censorship. And Brad Parskill needs to, and, um, I mean, if they don't do that and they leave us out to dry, it's, it's, it's just not right. I want back on Facebook. Yeah. Uh, so cool.

That had been, that he started it with, I love Trump made me hope for just one second that he would then complete your sense. I want back on Facebook. What he's, what I want to sum this 30 second clip up as, uh, I love Trump, but I want back on, but I want back on Facebook. Yeah. It's all I hear. Even if you're saying all this stuff about Trump supporters being attacked and

all this in the middle, that's just filler. Yeah. He loves that that's happening. Oh yeah. Or he loves that the optics of that is happening to the point where he can use that in order to get more attention and stuff. The, the problem is that he's not on Facebook. Yeah.

So anyway, calls still aren't coming in apparently. No, that's, so that's a problem and he's got to ramble a little bit with all those constitutional scholars that listened to this show, none of them are calling up saying the emoluments clauses and issue or reminds me Barnes was supposed to be on and he never showed up. Ooh, interesting. But I don't know if that's a scandal. The 17th was a Thursday this year.

Oh no. Who knows what could have happened to Barnes. So in, in his rambling, Alex tries to rationalize the fact that Drudge is having more negative coverage of Trump and he needs people, like I said, I, I believe this wholeheartedly and I don't know what it means and I don't know how it's going to break, but I do know that Alex cannot turn on Drudge. There's just no way. Yeah.

So what he has to do is he has to, you know, make the argument that this isn't a big deal. Don't worry about it. Not a big deal. It's a big debate about what's Drudge doing. Well, Drudge will show what they're saying and then he'll show what Trump's saying and then when it turns out Trump's right, he'll show it. I mean, it's still, which is rarely percent pro Trump.

I think it's pretty boring to have a page that just supports the president. I mean, we have the enemy up on our site and I see people going, what do you have this Hillary speech on here? We don't need to hear from her. You don't need to hear from her saying she may get back in the race. I love the idea that he's like, it's boring to have a Trump that's a page. It's all Trump support. Yeah.

We have the enemy on the page in a context of demonizing them to support Trump. Yep. It's a little different, um, but I know people don't want to hear a radio show that is pro Trump, regardless of any circumstances or change or decisions that he makes. I love Trump and all my old positions mean nothing. Yeah, yeah, that's, that is correct.

It would be boring. It is a little boring except for the fucking calendar conspiracy. Right. That's good stuff. And Alex now trying to take calls because that is, this is great. This is man, Alex goes to his first call and, uh, here's what happens. You got to say you want Trump and peach. Go ahead, Cody.

Sounds like it's raining. You know, this white noise might put me to sleep. I thought initially that that might be someone playing audio of, uh, Turkish, uh, like air raids or something. I thought that someone might have trolled Alex and was just playing that audio. I had no idea. It also could be white noise. Could be anything.

I heard horses running. I got that. No, I'm not sure. You know, it's a, uh, uh, audio Rorschach test. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You could hear whatever you want. I realized I'm probably overthinking this cause Alex tries to go to another call. Oh my goodness.

Uh, Bill in Kansas, you're on the air. Welcome. No. I got to say, we got a new way of doing things around here, folks. Oh, no. I've just been magic around here lately. I like it. I like it.

I don't get mad anymore about technical difficulties. There you go. There's some more white noise for you. Okay. Well, you got to know, you know what the gambler says? You got to know when to hold them. You got to know when to fold them. You got to know when to walk away.

You got to know when to run. So we're, we're done with calls. That, that we'll, we'll cut the white noise off at that point. So two calls, two strikes, no more calls. And you know what? I love it. I love it. I'm not mad about this.

I, you know what? There's tech problems. They just do things differently around here now. I don't care. I'm totally happy about it. I love it. I love not being able to do my show. I mean, we're on too long without getting the phones worked out.

We're on too long. Yeah. I get one episode, maybe a couple episodes, but this is too long. Yeah. I mean, there is that. And then also, you know, you add that to like, they're not being able to play clips whenever they're supposed to be played and all that stuff. And it's just like, and then you add it to the calendar bullshit.

You're just like, this is it. This operation's falling apart. It look, it feels like if you turn the cameras around, it's just recs running back and forth from station to station. Yeah. It leads me to suspect the possibilities of him trying to sell off the warehouse to cash out seem likely. Yeah.

I don't know if that's the case, but it just, it seems like he can't possibly have a full staff. This isn't, this isn't the staff that was there six months ago, a year ago. It feels like a different production. Not at all. Is this the same show? Yeah. Or the alternative is whatever he was paying for, like the phone line or the

experts who run his ability to take calls is now he can't afford. Right. And he has to do that on his own or they decided to stop working with them. Whatever the case is, something here indicates a deterioration of his. Ooh, no, I've got it. Uh, gray interference. That's what it is. That's why he can't take calls.

Could be a pulsar weapon. We all know. Yeah. We've seen it happen to carry so many times. Well, but Alex says that it's just a glitch. I'm going to go to your calls. We got the phone system working. It just had a weird glitch.

It was hung up. So I apologize. Two callers were there, but it was just hung up a little digital thing. So it's working now. We'll go to the next segment, but. Oh, the two callers who disagree with you and think Trump should be impeached. Weird, weird how there's a strange glitch while the people who were probably going to tell you to go fuck yourself.

Hey, can't talk to them. I don't think that necessarily Alex faked a glitch in order to not talk to these people, but it's weird. It's a coincidence that, uh, unfortunate. What a missed opportunity for you to tell off some people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know. I've listened to this show long enough to know that whenever he gets a dissenting call, it's usually like, you're not extreme enough.

You should be calling for Hillary to be hung. Yeah, yeah, the dissent is never dissent. The dissent always starts with love your products. Do I take them all every morning? And here's the thing. I agree with you. Right. Great dissent guys.

Yeah. It's either that or like, why do you dodge the Jewish question? Okay. All right. That's what you're disagreeing with you. Okay, all right. Yeah. So phone lines aren't working.

So Alex has to vamp some more, play some special reports because he has nothing. Um, and then he rambles about how you shouldn't win the lottery. Sure. And there's a lot of documentaries and books written about it that Europe and here in the US, but Asia has a lot of lot of lotteries as well. That you'll have some middle class dude who's been married for 30 years, totally happy at a nice house swimming pool, goes on vacations every year. His kids are in college.

He wins a $5 million lottery and a year later, he's dead. Sure. In prison. Yeah. Bankrupt or a combination of those. Maybe dead and in prison could be in 95% of the cases. I mean, they basically, it's hard to find cases where people get a bunch of money and don't destroy their lives.

Well, you'll never hear about that. Yeah, that's the point. Nobody is interested in the, I got a ton of money and everything is fine. That's why I invested in some property and everything's going good. Yeah, no kidding. It's not a story anyone tells. That's why you don't hear about it. They didn't earn it.

If they didn't learn how to control it. Money and success will destroy you faster than anything. If you're just going for success and money. I mean, you think people like Dan Bilzerian is happy because his daddy gave him $100 million dollars, whatever. Probably. You think these rock stars are happy if they even earned it, supposedly. No, because they're not helping people.

What about Trump? Um, no, he's helping people. What do I mean? But Trump got tons of money. Yeah, but he's using it to help people. That's what we've known about Trump since his entire career began. Nobody helps people quite like Donald J. Trump.

It's so amazing that he can go on a little bit of a jag about how unearned money is somehow. Do you think that this guy who has given a ton of money by his parents, even though he himself has no appreciable skills or talent, you think he's happy? Right. Yeah. Very weird. So, uh, Alex, like I said, he just mostly plays special reports because he kind

of really wanted to talk to callers because he probably didn't do too much preparing. He was out late at the rally and, you know, he never prepares anyway. Um, so he has a particular special report we're going to hear about in this last clip. Is it going to be racist? No. Oh, it's not the racist Chinese one.

No. Okay. Good. No, those aren't special reports anymore. They're pretty much every day he has a new one. No. Um, but this is interesting because like we've done the investigation of, you know, how he came to support Trump and we've listened to a lot of different

time periods of his career. And I could hear somebody who doesn't know those things hearing this clip and being like, ah, well, what about this special report? That's interesting. I hear this. I think Alex could go fucking to fuck himself. We got to get some bleeps on this show. Then I've got a bunch of other special reports our crews put together that

I'll air brainwash liberals think Trump is a gangster. We're going to play that. Oh, you do. You do brain. Brainwash liberals like Jones in July 2015. That's brainwash liberal. He still fucking does brainwash liberals. Jesus.

Trump is a mobster. I was like gangster. Oh, it's crazy. I mean, you hear stuff like that and it's just like, there's no sincerity. There's no context. There's no through line to any of this. It just is what it is. It's bootlicking.

It is rationalizing is towing the line a hundred percent. Yeah, there's so many. There's so many things now where I can't help but see in my head all of these propagandists reading anti-Trump shit and then just crossing out bad adjectives and adding good ones and not even not even that. The antonyms like specifically the exact opposite of what it is. You know, like, oh, that call was stupid and he tossed it off and changed the world. That means that he took his time thinking about it and you're like fucking whatever.

Yeah, it's all just meaningless. Yeah. And like I find very little interest except for the areas where it's like, well, this might be relevant as things get bad. And then also like I think it's really interesting to see these diminishing quality instances like that Trump is going to get killed at his Dallas rally based on this dome calendar bullshit. The tech problems, like I see an increasing inability to do this job well.

Like it's just bad propaganda. And I just wonder if he's still on air a couple of months from now, how is that deterioration going to like proceed? Yeah, it's gonna keep going. No, he's not going to write the ship some hope. No, that's not happening. It's nigh impossible for that to happen. So I just think like a couple of months from now, this could be comically bad.

And I look forward to that. Yeah, yeah, that makes me excited. That possibility. Yeah, but the rest of this guy is just predictable trash or he's just whatever Trump says or cares. Yeah, like I imagine a short period of time, he won't be inviting Lamas. They'll just be wandering in on their own. Yeah, I got to do it.

Lamas are back again. I hired security for this. You let him in once can't get rid of him. I do have this question in my mind that it's impossible to answer necessarily. And that is like now, how would Alex respond to Trump bombing Syria? Like the getting drunk crying, Trump shows ISIS up our dirty assholes. That like, would that happen now? Is it possible that there's something that will reach that point?

And I don't know, maybe a couple of months ago, I would have said, yeah, he probably would respond the same. Yeah, I don't know now. I really don't. The idea that he could be so waffling, the fact that he could be so back and forth on that. And so like, it's great. I leads me to believe that there isn't there isn't a point now.

I think it's just gone, but I don't think so either. I don't know. I thought that in the past, too, and he sometimes manages to surprise me. So we'll find out. I don't know true, so apologies for the three present day episodes in a row. Wednesday will be something again. You don't need to apologize for that 95 percent of the time you apologize. You do not need to apologize.

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