Knowledge Fight - #36: June 29, 2015

Episode Date: May 3, 2017

As requested by listener Jan, Dan tells Jordan all about what happens on the June 29th 2015 episode of The Alex Jones Show. Topics include: Are people trying to ban the American Flag? Does Jordan almost get seduced to the Dark Side? Do our hosts achieve the show's first spit take? Is it ever not racist to compare people to dog breeds?

Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding So Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Hello. Welcome back to knowledge fight I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple of dudes You like to sit around and drink wine and talk red wine and specific Excuse me that one time we tried white wine you you went all wacky. Hmm. Never again on the white wine To quote Ellie Whizell. That's what he was talking about. Nope. No, that's what he was talking about Cancel it play play the play the outro We're a couple dudes like to drink red wine as we bailed on an episode secretly. I was drinking white wine before you got here

That's why that opening was so off the rails We like to sit around drink red wine and just say that four times I'm gonna see how many times I can get you to say that we like to talk about Alex Jones We do like to talk about Alex do but I will I will posit you this What would be more interesting? Hmm two guys who both know a lot about Alex Jones and just kind of have a back and forth No, and they have like already. No, no, that would be not interesting How about if they were both white dudes that I'm listening No, or or I like a second option or one of us and it doesn't really matter which one

But probably the guy with the deep and comforting baritone. Sure. Sure. I got the cross eye and a beard Exactly. Yeah, what if he knew a lot? But our our co-host man, he just doesn't know nothing. I think that that would only work if the co-host was Shocked by everything and screamed a lot It's the only way that would work. Do you mean a ball filled with joy and rage of equal intensity? Exactly Someone who's perhaps bipolar. Let's fast-track this thing And we have already spent 25 minutes on our intro. Oh boy So anyway guys what we like to do is every episode we sit down and we talk about a day in the life of Alex Jones

But today is going to be slightly different and we'll get to that here in a minute But before we do I want to play something from Monday's episode that is incredibly important. Okay, there's no joking around about this This is super super duper serious. Okay, this is from Monday May 1st episode Alex Jones is having an interview with Steve Pacenek now Steve Pacenek for reasons that are completely Unknown to me is in front of what appears to be a diagram of all the genres of hip-hop I will post a picture. That makes perfect sense. No What what else would Steve Pacenek be diagramming on a white boy Steve Pacenek the man of the counter coup like he is

military strategist psychologist for the CIA in the past in front of a board Of trap Crunk turntablism. I have no idea what's going on. Okay. That is irrelevant. Pause it Pause it theory either he wandered into the writers room in VH1 in 1994 could be it's lover's bedroom Or he is Diagramming that for the CIA or for J. Edgar Hoover in the 70s I could give a very simple explanation that I think might be right

But I hope it's not they have all these theories about how hip-hop was made to like Popularized criminality in the black community and stuff like that. Oh god. No, I could see it being something like that But even even if that's the case wild wild that he's sitting in front of this He's still sitting in front of it He could have just moved it but while he's doing this interview in front of this chart Alex says something that I think he's going to very seriously regret saying oh He has got so many different things to regret right now on the level of I miss my dog nonk

That's way at the bottom the key to understanding him That's the way at the bottom right a little higher than that is I'm gonna kick your ass Adam shift You pack a pussy's right fill your hand a little higher than that is I put a bunch of people into a coma sure No, I think that's actually below Stuff all right, but then you've got the guy who owns Chabani is importing rapists No, I think this one's higher. Holy shit now It might not be legally actionable, but I think he's gonna regret this more. All right, let me just give you some good news. I Don't want to give sources out obviously, but let's just say this I

Know Mike Cernovich's sources the government knows his sources So it's not a secret to them But it's obviously who's been retweeting him and saying he's a great guy and retweeting our stuff There are people very close to the president who are for real Hell, it's not a secret. It's his sons Especially Donald Jr. Is a total patriot and there's a bunch of other people. So Trump is for real, but he's being pulled by every side That wasn't a secret to whom was that not a secret. What do you mean? He just said I'll tell you it's not a secret. It's not a secret

No one knew that it's not a secret to the government apparently That's why this is a huge fucking problem whether it's true or not all of the illegals All of the illegals things that you can do well Here's the part that's even more fucked up is it barely plays on audio But you can go back and listen to it and you go find the clip and Steve Pachennik's responses, right? He agrees as if he knows this is that Trump's kids are the sources for Mike Cernovich's Deceit filled propaganda articles now. There's two things that are going on here Okay, there's two paths that are possible and one of them a little one of them goes down two side paths also

Gotcha, so we can go down the path of this Alex telling the truth here and if he's telling the truth that's super fucked up Yeah, if he's not again illegal if he's not telling the truth and he's just making this up out of whole cloth He's fucked like Donald Trump is never gonna talk to him again any sources that he does have he's burned Oh, they're never gonna talk to him again He's just out at a source on TV. No no sources should ever talk to him again Of course, I I mean we were pretty clear most of his sources are fakes are made up Yeah, but any real source is gonna hear that and be like I don't know if I can trust his discretion his confidentiality means nothing He just on air

Indicated that the children of the sitting president. Yeah leaking information to a right-wing Propagandist right which means that they have information to leak which again see now that I get that gets a very illegal That's super illegal now. We go back to the first path if Alex is telling the truth. He is burned Cernovich Right because now Cernovich's source is outed Trump's kids are never going to be giving him information ever again You would hope you now you are you are forgetting these Staggering incompetence and stupidity of all of these people all at the same time That's a fair point, but I think this is one of the most fucked-up things I've heard on this show and I've listened to a lot of it Yeah, that's I know I've I don't think I've ever

Like fully witnessed someone out a source like I've never seen a journalist do it in real time So flippantly to yeah amazing, which is like as it's a throwaway. Yeah, I'll tell you my sources. It's not really It's Donald jr. Especially he's a patriot. What the fuck are you doing? Yeah? No, that's bananas. That's Crazy for someone who claims to Not picked up it's everyone should know this right now. I'll tell you what it's picked up on like reddit Our main man far out sent me a picture fuck a screenshot from the Donald and they'd pick this up And they're like god damn it now Cernovich not gonna get any more stories Which is kind of

Reddit are smart enough for this They can A to B this thing. Yeah, they can war games. What happens when you burn a source? Yes It wargames thing things is not his strong suit. No, so that's insane. I mean he's losing it But since he's losing it in the present Maybe it's time for us to escape the present Jordan Maybe it's time for us to take a little trip down memory lane But before we do that need to do do a little shout out like to thank our man yawn out in Germany. What's up, yawn? I'm a policy wonk

Thank you. Thank you, yawn. Thank you very much yawn. Thanks for donating a policy wonk and long-time supporter yawn. He's a good good dude and he suggested insisted He took us up on our offer is more what I should say We offered on our last episode that if people donated ten dollars a month or more that we would take a day in history Right and go back to what Alex Jones was doing on that day. Oh, thank God So yawn sent me a couple dates. He said the first date. He sent me was the date of the first Nuclear test by South Korea or by North Korea. Oh, which was in 2006

Okay, unfortunately my archives don't go back that far. So I could not find that episode So I asked for a backup date and he sent me June 4th 2015 what was June 4th, 2015 wreck your brain. What do you think was going on then you're a man of letters? 2015 I am I am a man of letters, but not of numbers 2015 Obama was still president. It's true June 4th Trump wasn't even really running at that point. No, no Not in earnest anyway Did we did we blow something up? We didn't see it. Let me see if this out of context drop from June

20th June June 4th. This is this is in June 2015 Okay being right More than other people's conspiracy theorist. That's what being conspiracy theorist is being right all the time Here's the deal. It was one gay marriage Passed into the Supreme Court. No shit. Well. Oh, so this is gonna be a fucking disaster See, that's what was expected when yawn made this suggestion, right? And here's the deal The actual court decision was on the 26th. Uh-huh

Unfortunately Alex or I think it was the 25th Alex Jones is in studio on the 24th, and he doesn't talk about the gay marriage Supreme Court case at all This is gonna be another Y2k episode, isn't it? Maybe but so he doesn't talk about it on the 24th So I'm like, that's not fair the subject matter that was requested was the Supreme Court case I'm gonna go to the next day. Yeah on the 25th when the court Ruling did come down. Yeah, Alex Jones is in Michigan for his cousin's wedding

That's son of a bitch. David Knight is in studio and that double son of a bitch. He is mad But it's mostly a states rights issue. Oh So I'm like, all right Sunday episode Alex will be back because the 25th was a Friday like all right Sunday 28th it's going down Nope nothing get nothing from him. Okay get nothing David Knight still in studio So we have to go to the next episode where Alex Jones is actually on which is June 29th of 2015 now you might be asking yourself does he go apeshit about gay marriage? I would so here's my theory. He does not go apeshit. He spends all of his time

Trying to straddle the line between like hey Who who cares what you do in your bedroom is none of my business But at the same time he's trying to be like I just I just think that it shouldn't be the government who tells you what you can Do in your bedroom? I think I think I've sucked a dick before I Think that might be it. I think that's a pretty reasonable guess. Yeah, let's find out Here's the first clip from the show. This is a little special report that Alex throws it to He thinks it's a John bound special report. It's not wait, so

Okay, and you're going to witness like right out of the gate minute one of the Alex Jones show from June 29th 2015 Something that is out of bounds Like from the jump and I'll explain when we get back. Okay It was the top big link on drudge report today Americans sign a petition to ban the American flag now. We'll get back to that We'll get back to that that's a narrative that's going to come back, but we got to get to the special report All right, and it's no joke. I first said that a few weeks ago

Limbaugh and others made the point and Farrakhan Obviously called for it last week Which is kind of reasonable in a way I mean the American flag has had more slaves under it than the Confederate if you go by that benchmark The grease collapse is now admittedly happening and Jim Rogers one of the top analysts says you ain't seen nothing yet We're going to get into that we're going to get into huge news on the second amendment front and so much more Very important broadcast huge news on Isis They're saying no one could see these attacks coming

Really? We've only perseverated on it for four years warning of The so-called rebels blowing back on the West by design It's all coming up today But first the Pope comes out hardcore against the second amendment and for world government John down reports Joe Biggs here with info wars.com now this week the pope decided to go full retard when he released a statement saying the gun manufacturers are not Christians well I find that

Extremely funny to hear that coming from the pope because here at info wars.com. We do have a Christian-owned gun Manufacturer as a sponsor head down rifles now their CEO and co-founder David Hunts like a release a statement where he was just completely in shock By the fact that the pope would release such a statement So him him saying bad things about the pope isn't really what is out of bounds I do think it's funny to think that the pope who lives in Italy is bound by this second amendment I think that's absurd. I think that's obvious But the thing that's way at the second world amendment in that yeah, I think that happened

Yeah, yeah, I the thing that's way out of line is the idea that Joe Biggs made a special report to Cuck out the pope on behalf of a sponsor That is I was I was a little bit more concerned about the Reference to what's it called the ours? Yeah, yeah, yeah, no from that from that movie full are oh Yeah, the one with the black face one of Downey, yeah, yeah, yeah thunder Tropic from the Tropic Thunder. Wow. Yeah, Tropic Thunder. I was great. You thought that was the problem I don't I don't I don't appreciate that when that's used in a pejorative manner towards anybody

Sure, like the the whole joke of that is that It it is exploitative the very act of doing that so in Tropic fun in Tropic Thunder you did it again I want to go to a themed restaurant called Tropic Thunder. Let's build it. We're gonna do that. We build it another idea That will never know. Yeah No, it's it's the joke is that actors are exploiting that in order to get yeah Oscars and so what you're winding up doing is using that phrase in order to kind of reveal the Hypocrisy and stupidity of it. Well when people like Joe Biggs use it they reveal their own stupidity exactly

He's he's trying to use it in as mean a way as you possibly can. Yeah, also if you're a Christian owned Gun manufacturer. Uh-huh. You do not understand a lot of Christ. No, and I pulled up the Pope's Head-down rifles. Oh Wow, I don't I don't know what that means. Well, I mean you gotta put your head down your head down and murder So I looked I looked into this and the Pope gave a speech that they're talking about and here's some quotes from it If you only trust men, you have lost He told the young people in a long rambling talk about war trust and politics after putting aside his prepared address It makes me think of people managers businessmen who call themselves Christian and they manufacture weapons

He's right on it man, that leads to a bit of a distrust doesn't it he said to applause He also criticized those who invest in weapons industries saying quote duplicity is the currency of today They say one thing and do another Which I think are pretty fair assessments. That's straight-up popin. Yeah, this is cool Pope, right? Yeah, this isn't Nazi. This is globalist Pope. Yeah, not Nazi Pope Yeah, so I mean like sure take the Pope out of context. Cuck him out on behalf of your sponsor You're basically starting the show with an ad where you're committing It's not blasphemy because he's not God. No, but you're just the mouthpiece of God

You're just pissing on the Pope for for ads. Yeah, that's a plug. That's one of my favorite things about the whole Pope thing now is Mainstream Christians are mad at the Pope every now and again and then super happy with him They're it's the cognitive dissonance of religion. Mm-hmm is mind-boggling certainly The fact that you could take that fairly innocuous statement of like hey if you're investing in guns guns are used to kill people So you're investing you're profiting off the death of human beings. Yeah, that's what you're doing And I mean if you really get it down to it Joe Biggs goes on to be like, you know, people use weapons to you know use guns to hunt and feed their families

But the amount of money that's made from that kind of weapons versus the weapons of killing industry It's staggering like it's it's almost nothing comparatively So when you want it if you want to make that argument, please debate the Pope Joe Biggs Go fucking have a conversation with him about your Principled gun stances. I don't think I don't think Biggs is getting it. I frankly I don't even think Jason Biggs is getting near to the Pope. Well now We would know I mean we've already seen if Joe Biggs is basically gone now In modern day, so we have already have a blast from the past. Yes

So I'm gonna break it down for you break it down this episode from 2015 is globalist heavy I'm looking forward to to some classic Alex Jones being wacky It's no one paying attention really. I I don't know how wacky it is. It's it's unadvised at certain points Certainly the main narrative that runs throughout Basically this entire episode is Greece the Greece financial crisis that was going on in 2015 Do you mean the one caused by? Banks exploiting their economy and essentially tricking them and then forcing them to accept

austerity measures for their Own mistakes, and you have just made the globalist argument. Oh god damn it. No I might be a globalist or at least you might believe in the globalist Yeah, but if you think big banks are bad Here's where you might be a globalist his version of it is far more sinister than just capitalism out of control Okay, his version of it will get to This first clip here once we're now that we're out of the advertisement section Is a little bit about how the globalists are trying to he hasn't quite gotten into Greece yet at this point

Okay, but that will take up most of our time The at this point He's just trying to spell out how evil the globalists are and now we know the origin of his hatred for Chobani Oh, it could be there we go the connection. Uh-huh. This is just about how globalists are evil and they're trying to change society They've taken over almost every government and almost every bank Now they're going to take over the individual and the family now the real drilling in is

commencing All hell is gonna be breaking loose The enemy is assaulting on every front making more and more outrageous announcements to move the Overton window and If you don't know what that is, it's a political science term coined in the middle of the last century of How political only operate within what is seen as acceptable within the political paradigm within the establishment middle of the road But that they will have radicals out on the edge

Making announcements that sound over the top to make their announcements That are slightly out of the Overton window not sound as radical. I Think he has just described himself exactly That's exactly what he just did right there is nothing in the world that is more pushing what is decent Yeah, yeah, of course. He is so like because he is so crazy the idea of Republicans taking everybody's health care away and yet at the same time acting as though that's giving them personal freedom. Yeah is Reasonable yeah compared to globalists are coming after the Individual and then the family which is a very strange order of sure to take on those two things

Listen, you get to you get to tasks. However, you get to him. Yeah, that's a good. No, I think that just kind of Subconsciously shows what he thinks is more important well But also it's like he sits on air all day and is like Hillary Clinton is literally a demon Like if you want to talk about pushing discourse in a certain direction You've introduced the idea that demons are real and that they influence our politicians now before You introduce this idea into our discourse. We just had to talk about ideas and disagreeing with them, right? You've thrown that out the window and now anybody could be possessed So that your Overton window is way over here

Way over here. It's very it's very easy to demonize your opponent when you just go Literal with demonize, you know, you're like, oh his ideas are bad now Smells like fire and fucking brimstone. Did you ever notice that a fly landed on Obama flies never land on people? Whatever, anyway, that makes sense. Alex has an example of them pushing the Overton window That I think is less relevant than him in terms of actually doing it Okay, we'll see so that you will accept what they're doing by increment Because their vanguard is so far out having Jocelyn elders 23 years ago as the surgeon general

nominee Calling for the school to help children ages five Master Bay In 1994 that sounded insane Today it's standard No, I want I want that on my goddamn wall, that's pretty good quote We need we need schools to help five-year-olds Master Bay, right Jocelyn elders So it's a general nominee for those young ins out there who are you know weren't around Jocelyn elders was the surgeon general In the Clinton years for a bit and then she got fired after this

She in 1994 was invited to speak at a United Nations conference on AIDS She was asked by a by someone there whether it would be appropriate to promote masturbation as a means of Preventing young people from engaging in riskier forms of sexual activity and she replied quote I think that it is part of human sexuality and perhaps it should be taught That's it. Yeah, I don't think that's I I Genuinely do not see a negative to that. I honestly even in 1994. I was ten. I did not see a controversial I don't think my parents saw that is controversial I don't think there's anything overton window-y about it

No, no the only things that you can take away from that is that Alex Jones does not think that people should be masturbating Possibly well, he doesn't think five-year-olds should be masturbating. Hey neither does Jocelyn elders That's not what she said. Did you ask her? I didn't I wasn't in you at the UN when I was ten see there you go But she ended up getting fired Because she wanted people to masturbate something they've been doing White house white house chief of staff Leon Panetta Remarked about the firing quote. There have been too many areas where the president does not agree with her views This is just one too many so they sort of copped out a little bit masturbation is

One too many God. They did not see internet porn coming or had no fucking clue or the next few years of Clinton's life Like he didn't masturbate fair enough So he is already in two clips, which again is maybe within the first couple minutes of the show Completely misrepresented with the Pope said in order to plug one of his sponsors Yeah, and complete as God intended the completely misrepresented something that Jocelyn elders said 20 fucking years ago In order to make his argument about the Overton window, which he is way more guilty of I Love that his first example is 23 years ago a surgeon general said maybe if people

Masturbated and that was okay. They would be less likely to commit sexual assault. That's not even what she was talking about Isn't that the question that she was responding to she was asked she was talking about kids and young people engaging in risky forms of sexual activity No, it's about like avoiding diseases and shit like that if you masturbate it's completely safe That sort of thing. I mean it depends on where you are and well, it's a good point Don't do it in a car. I had a friend get in trouble Can't say his name while driving. Yeah So, but I mean that's even a Mike for Big Lea joke perhaps like her Response was even perhaps it should be taught. Yeah, it's not even saying I think this should be

You know, maybe yeah, maybe kids should know we put teach him how to put a condom on a banana Why not teach him how to unskitten that banana? I would certainly have been less likely to be ashamed and miserable every time I masturbated if somebody was like hey, this is okay It's normal human behavior that everybody does like have you ever gone to the zoo? Jesus are you're gonna see a monkey masturbate? That's gonna happen. Yeah, they don't teach that in the kind of cults that we grew up in No, um, so although they don't monkeys don't teach each other how to masturbate either. So perhaps she's wrong They do at age five do they they do I've seen I've gone to zoos. Yeah, but they mature faster than us

It's true. So this next clip is Alex just blowing hard man. Just blowing hard Just I am the best You just want to know like how how is he so accurate how is Alex Jones never wrong Donald Trump's sons. It's all there. How do I continually know what they're going to do next day in day out? Week in week out month in month out year in year out decade in decade out blood in blood out Because they've told us what they're going to do and they've done it over and over again in third world and old world Countries that they had control of so we know the exact

Formulae that they will slightly tweak with their anthropologist and sociologist and Behaviorist for the particular country that they launch we know the enemy profile We know their modus operandi We have assessed them And You would think it's a weakness that they're so predictable But see their response is hey the public isn't even conscious. So what if you're awake? So what if you're aware? It's like being one awake person at a sports stadium of lobotomized children

Who you can't know Adam hasn't communicate with them. You can't get them out of the trance They don't even know what you're talking about I Just kept that pause in there for the the long sigh at the end There's a couple things that are important to note there One of them is that he does not speak in any specifics about his information that he has he just They just proclaims that he's always right when if you really look into it, he's wrong about almost everything Yeah, he's absolutely just his facts are shoddy

He just has assertions that he never backs up ever There's so much documentation of shit. He's predicted that he's wrong about But the other thing is this idea that he comes to at the end or is like everyone's dumb and you can't even communicate with them And there's two there's two things I want to speculate about there One is that because he has a very specific mental illness. He can't talk to other people He seems crazy Whenever anyone else is talking to him He can't communicate because he just starts rambling about globalists and international forces and vague

References to documents right and scientists. He may or may not have talked to and everyone may or may not be real And everyone's like I can't follow you even the most generous of interviewer. He's gonna yell at them It's it's impossible for him to interact with anybody on a human level, right? I've seen him with his co-hosts and stuff. It's even mildly abusive So I think there's some of that he's projecting shit a little bit and then beyond that that is also a Mentality that is espoused in the protocols of the elders of Zion This idea that most of the masses are dumb and the globalists are trying to make them dumb in order to make them malleable Well, it also it's a it's cult behavior

Like if you can only trust your cult leader to be the one who's telling you the truth Yes, then that forces you to put everybody else outside true So he is he is isolating his listeners in the same way that he's isolated. Yes. Yes Now he's isolated from everybody else. They can only have him exactly as a conduit to truth, right? Yeah. Yeah, that is true It's a bummer, but the good news is what's the good news? Alex is also a specialist in a bunch of things Alex is an expert on certain matters especially policy Isis

Okay, it's a big specialist on Isis. All right, he's gonna walk you through How evil Muslims are in this next clip not Isis well all Muslims It starts with Isis. Yeah, and then it spirals out of control very quickly It's generalized way too fast and then this is the first of two times He gets into really spotty animal metaphors that I don't think are appropriate that are Very not good. I Analyze the new Al Qaeda and the new Syrian state they were building In the last four or five years giving Libya as a base to take down Africa to Al Qaeda

Giving Syria part of it as a base to take down the Middle East Western governments all financing it. We laid out exactly four years ago Exactly three years ago exactly two years ago exactly one year ago exactly a month ago over and over again at nauseam That Isis is a real terror threat a multi hundred thousand person army Recruited and funded by the West with useful idiot bots who actually think they're fighting for quote Islam He has said that over and over again. He's not wrong about He's not wrong about Al Qaeda being funded by Western sources at one point at one point Syria is definitely being funded by Western governments. We're we're doing most of it

And then you have you know Muslims and Islam right but but but Isis itself isn't Created by us except in a tertiary sense. Yeah, it's not funded by us But it's definitely created by us and any like the instances where you there are like things that have we have supplied that have gone back to them Pretty accidental. Yeah in the same way that you know You give somebody shit and someone takes it Mm-hmm, that that does happen. Well like like how we sent a billion dollars in cash or whatever it was and that

Magically disappeared in Iraq sure There's a lot of questions there. There were a lot of questions. You're doing sending them much cash. Why are you sending cash? It's weird. It seems weird very weird. Let's see. What can you buy with cash in a? Failed state that's falling apart. I have no idea. I'm starting to think maybe it was funneled to other people Possible it could be it's possible. Hey, but anyway, he goes on That are going to be allowed to attack the entire Western world and the Middle East They're meant to take over and conquer the Middle East and much of Africa as a proxy front for the globalist under Saudi Arabia and Turkey's control

Here they're gonna attack be repulsed and defeated but that'll be used for the next decade of expanded police state. Oh Oh Alex now says the Muslim threats real even though he said for all these years. It was synthetic. It was always real But it was manufactured Now it's not manufactured. It's bred in a pin and turned loose Like I said if I go to my neighbor put three rattlesnakes in his bed The I didn't bite my neighbor, but I'm an accomplice to it. I put the rattlesnakes in the bed No, you're not an accomplice. You're a murderer. I go dump a hundred black widows in your bed

And you go and get in there. I don't control the black widows. I just know what they're gonna do Where did you find a hundred black widows? If I put you in a pen with 15 starving wolves? I don't run the wolves They'd bite my hand too, but I control the environment and the paradigm that Why do you need another exactly comedy comes in threes, but that's just that's just three examples of the same exact thing It's a little excessive Rhetorically unnecessary if I put 10 million ladybugs in there. Yeah, they're not gonna bite you But you'll probably suffocate. You'll you're not gonna like this

He does another hour of just examples of ways he could accidentally kill you So I mean but the the argument that he's he's making there if you I don't think that this is the way he would make it But there is a way to make it Reasonably and that is that our foreign policy is so fucked up that we keep creating terrorists through bombing churches through Starving children killing civilians and that is Creating more and more people who do want to hurt us, right? I think that what he's saying is is different I don't know what he's saying Well, okay, I don't think it's that though now here is the here is the interesting thing about that though is that

cynically I do have that Inclination to agree with that idea of oh man. We're creating you dig Alex Jones in 2015. I maybe I do Maybe it's so it's so if I was going to conspiracy theorize. Yeah as and and I think I think he's not terribly wrong I just think he's ascribing competence to people who just are Incapable of thinking ahead Or you know just the law of unintended consequences or or even the potential bad consequences are outweighed by whatever Yeah immediate gain you're trying to make yeah, like the the terrorism thing is

Absolutely being used to expand the police state like there's no other way to describe what's going on there now Is that because there's a globalist plot or is it because all of our weapons went over to Iraq? And we don't need them anymore and we spent a shit ton of money on it So we want to get some of that money back. So we sell it to police stations. I think they need all of those weapons I think that is definitely the The sort of economic version or the economic explanation for the militarization Yeah of some of the police forces, but I don't think the terrorism necessarily is Creating that trend of militarized police. I think it's the fate of the fake fear of terrorism, right?

Actually not created as much by the globalists as it is by people like Alex. Yeah Ironically, of course, you're giving away your rights. You need to protect yourself against ISIS Yeah, you need a strong government with a strong military now Obviously, you don't want that government to have control over I don't know providing people with basic health care No, you want them to be able to fight ISIS a paramilitary force that has a 0.0001 8% chance I put another decimal in there. I like it for to actually harm you but then it also

He's trying to have it both ways with that argument, you know, it is that like you I think you nailed it We want this strong government, but then not strong. Yeah, stay out of our business, but Yeah, everyone take away our rights, but don't give us anything. Yeah, I'm sick of having stuff from you I don't want to be dependent on the government Now admittedly I have a syndicated radio show that I make millions of dollars off of sure and plenty of people are poor like In Flint, Michigan where they don't even have fucking regular drinking water And we still haven't done a goddamn thing about that even though we've known about it since 2015 and he hasn't mentioned that

Nor the gay marriage thing, but also, I mean like he makes money off of people buying guns from a Christian gun maker So, I mean, that is interesting. Where are we? What are we doing? What are you talking about Alex? What is going on? Anyway, I think I think you're right that this sort of area There's a little bit more interesting gray area. I still disagree with Alex. I think he's full of shit I disagree with him too, but I Like it is it is enticing because that way you're you're seeing that you're smelling the trap a little more Yeah, yeah, yeah, it sounds it sounds like man at least then I could say that People in the government are smart enough to pull this shit off. Right. Right. At least we elected people who aren't borderline

I Just moronic well, that's kind of the charm of 9-eleven conspiracies to that anyway Alex wants you to know that he's got great information Oh, oh 9-eleven Oh, hello, how are you today? You look marvelous. You are a delight. So this next clip Alex Accidentally says something that makes him think twice a little bit never seen that before He's talking about how his information is rock solid He gets good information

But then he starts to talk about instances where in the past where Other people's information has had disinformation in it And I think there's a moment you can see in his face where he's kind of like, oh boy Shouldn't have brought this up Then he gets a little defensive and throws to break Haha Now how did I know this 20 years ago because I read Barry Goldwater's book. He was in the meetings He exposed it. I read the statements of David Rockefeller

It's all planned. I read the opposition to it and I read the people that were for it If I was in a war which I am I would read the enemy's own documents They're so arrogant their battle plans are public And they don't give us their battle plans because they're fake to throw us off or there's disinfo in them like the British With their ultra system let the Germans know No, it's beyond that. They are so arrogant. They are operating Uncloaked Attacking us at point blank range

This is back when he maybe couldn't skip as many breaks yeah For that Mercer money came in right as I suspect But yeah, that that's this is another idea that he has that's based on Sort of Illuminati beliefs this idea of like sort of Externalizing the program you got to show people what you're doing in order for it to be to mean anything Mm-hmm a lot of times when he talks about these Illuminati rituals that they do with the halftime shows and stuff It's called lesser magic whenever you like Eyebrow raise well whenever it's lesser magic. Yeah

It's this idea of it even extends to like putting something that the globalists are going to do into a science fiction movie So it like it gets the right used to the idea that predictive programming Yeah, that's all part of this lesser magic game right that the globalists play in order to do things in plain sight and Then putting out all their white papers that say these things that Alex thinks they say but they don't right is another part of that Which again feeds into that Little bit of that schizophrenia, which is like why they had Pullman become president in independence day So you'd be prepared for him to become president in real life. Absolutely

Totally that makes perfect sense to me. Uh-huh Who else would be a better president Paxton way we lost him. No, we lost Paxton shit. Yeah All right, this next clip Alex gets super condescending about how you need to wake the fuck up. I do I'm really tired. I'm going to say this very very slowly for new listeners I don't mean this in a condescending way, but the denial has to end right now You can go to Google and type IMF World Bank documents leaked 2002 The BBC covered part of them and they told Greg Palast

We're gonna fire you if you do any more pieces on this basically He got pulled back from former tops. So also keep keep in mind there that he said basically That's a that's a qualifying word. It is it is we say it a lot basically we do But whenever you're not making a real assertion you say stuff like well kind of basically He's like I got I got pulled back from it by the BBC basically Mmm, that's did he did he get fired or pulled back? Nope. He was a freelancer Fraud that's given that went to work for the BBC and in it the IMF and World Bank were planning the takedown of the West

Next they'd already taken over the third world Latin America Africa and much of Asia through fraud And it talked about how they would then depress economies have the country sign on to debt Do bailout after bailout that actually puts the countries in debt to the megabanks when the Companies themselves are being bailed out by the countries and the public is so ill illiterate is The proper word total illiteracy when it comes to basic financial systems But even when you tune in to CNBC, that's all within the paradigm of the controlled economic order

So that itself is not how it really operates. What are you saying? I don't know I I what is he trying to say? I don't know what that part at the end there is I don't I don't I don't I He just like does every every single thing he was saying up to that point He's like but then there's another paradigm and that's not really even how the world works, right? What do you what are you doing? Which but he I mean though the the big banks did pull that shit Yeah, and they did totally they did Cause them to get a whole shit ton of debt and then the banks themselves were bailed out by the people Yes, this is true predatory capitalism. Why didn't he just stop there because it's not enough to sell your fucking

Huxtery goods if you I think it is. I don't wait. No, it's not enough to sell huxtery goods I think it's enough for me to want Just fires just fires all over the place. Well, that's actually part of the IMF's plan to burn Yeah, right. It's come at the end and then when you're burning down cities The the globalist banks can come in and buy everything up for super cheap. No, but I want to burn down the globalist banks Let's get them. No, but here's the thing So I did Google this that Alex Jones condescendingly told me to two years ago. Yes, I googled this And I looked for IMF leaks 2002

Yes, and I found an article in the Guardian by Greg Palast, right where he doesn't was not in the BBC No, he doesn't interview with a guy who used to work for the IMF and got fired very ugly Ceremoniously and he had some really terrible things to say about the IMF and how they operate I think a lot of it is spiritually fairly accurate Okay, it's stuff about like, you know, like you're saying take a take it getting countries to borrow more Than they should and when they can't they default on their loans But you buy up like their water plants and stuff like that

Yeah, and then you can you can just basically fuck over a country. Yeah, but there's nothing That's what it just the American way. There's nothing in his article And there are no leaks that are out anywhere. I couldn't find any primary It was just a guy who got fired right and that he's the they reference art Like documents in that article, but they aren't anywhere. Oh, okay. They aren't public, right? They never got put out or whatever Maybe they are in some weird part of the dark web that I'm not gonna go to but they're not get it to our browser I'm not gonna do that, but so

Nowhere in any of it has anything to do about trying to collapse Entire regions of the world There's nothing in there like an evil plan that the West is next all this stuff is fantasies from Alex's brain Which is the basically that I was talking about earlier, right? That's the that's the part where he can't stop at the truth He's got a guild that shit and that's where it becomes a lie and it becomes propaganda Serving his globalist one-world government Boner right has in his paranoia brain the interesting thing about this is that

It seems like in 2015. He was far more interested in the kernel of truth That leads to the lie. Yeah, as opposed to now where it seems like he's divorced himself from reality I really yeah kernel of truth. Fuck that popcorn of lies. That's what I want I don't start at the beginning. I explode with bullshit totally given to me by Trump's kids I told you are not supposed to have any contact with him in regards to business situation or anyone in the Anyone but I I told you before we started recording We're gonna see a pretty different Alex Jones on this show. Mm-hmm like he's still a liar

He's still a bullshit artist right still obsessed with the globalist, right? But this is a different dude. I'm halfway charmed by this guy. I'm not charmed, but I do I well Let me put it this way. I'm I'm much more willing to entertain this than I am You know, they're gonna be 1776 all over he still thinks that though in his head at this point But there there's a couple points with that. We're gonna get to where I think you might you will get current Alex Jones Shining through okay, but actually here's a clip where he's very He would never say this today

Do we get do we get to add a number three to things that we agree with Alex Jones on or nope? I Do not agree with this at all, okay, but he would be god damned if he said this today, okay, see if you can tell why I Mean the globalist if you're quote state or your country doesn't pay a debt They'll go in with sanctions and grab the assets overseas like you're doing to Russia and not over debts But because Russia is defending its population. That's indigenous to eastern Ukraine in the Crimea Yeah, sure again, not saying Russia is faultless, but they didn't start the war They didn't overthrow Ukraine. They sure did Soros the same group of bankers And they're now having their assets all over the world seized their companies shut down that

Americans and Brits and Germans and other people work in Number WikiLeaks Assange trying to find me in other countries here we go and NATO would force Russian aircraft down to search them That's the New World Order folks So there's nowhere to run And they bring down Russia and a few other countries Sure, you're jumping out of the fire into the frying pan But the fire is gonna get a lot hotter when there's no firewalls

States are like firewalls or like bulkheads in a ship for water If you don't have them one leak will bring you down God, I wish that were true Once there's global government folks There'll be nowhere to run and we know the people running this world government are the maximum alpha tyrants the world Maximum alpha tyrants. I can't think of anyone who that might apply to one dude there maximum maximum

Alpha tyrant is the sort of linguistic version of three examples of animals in your bed Like that's it's excessive. We got you. Uh, well, I think that's a great beer, too, isn't it? Oh, yeah I have this great IPA. Oh, so good the bugs in your bed beer Bugs in your bed IPA hundred black widows in your bed. Um, so also a He would never say those things like you He still says that George Soros is responsible for Ukraine the uprising in Ukraine, right? But or like for overthrowing Ukraine. Yeah, but Suspiciously absent from his language

Pretty much since Donald Trump got around has been these positive things about Putin and about how the Russians We're just protecting their people in the oh, absolutely. Yeah, they were just they were just going in there protecting people Yeah, they definitely don't have a maximum alpha tyrant. No that that would be insane Putin is just a Protector sure he just wants to kick the globalist absolutely. He's not literally Resembling a demon as Alex said on the Y2k episode. Yeah Crazy so crazy. He's defending Russia. He's he's gone so far back and forth on all of this shit. It's Like I wonder I wonder if there is a step too far for him What I mean is is there anything that he will not switch on globalists?

Yeah, but the definition of who is that's great isn't a great boy Yeah, yeah, is always ever-changing. Yeah, you can you can be a globalist one day and a patriot the next Much like the bouncing back and forth on WikiLeaks that literally everyone is doing right now Sure, where it's like I was good when it was dead Yeah, then now it's bad whenever it's dead done now. It's good. Yeah. Mm-hmm No, I guess in that case. No, there's nothing. There's no well second amendment. Maybe Oh, that is a good thing because he did also he didn't not the second amendment That is a bad thing

He didn't always used to be so into God as he is now so that's sort of even like a little waffly Although even then his he can't go back his belief in God is very nebulous as to what it is God wants or does not want Sure, I mean, we're we're still it's an esoteric weird God But let's not forget the 12th dimensional beings that are out there. You can go back on that one I Think it might just be the second amendment like guns guns might be the only thing he has guns or it if he Turned against guns. He would lose almost all of his audience. Yeah, that's probably true Now there's a lot of weird factions within his audience

But I think one of the biggest through lines is people who love guns Wow, so wait, what? Yeah Ah But Russia was cool two years ago Russia's super cool. So congratulations Alex. That's a weird of you to think So this next clip he's gonna talk. He's talking about Greece. Okay, he's So much shit about Greece and it's all repetitious It's all just The globalists are planning to take them down blah blah blah

So so it's not that the Greek people themselves are bad. No, okay Greek people themselves are great Yeah, they're victims of this globalist system. I agree sure. Well, I mean maybe not the globalist I agree. They are victims. They're victims of this banking system That is true. So in in this next clip. He's gonna talk about how It's a bank holiday and he gets he goes on a real nice ramp real nice riff on the idea of a bank holiday It does a little bit of singing and then before we go any further, right? What the fuck is he talking about with this Barry Goldwater and Rockefeller shit who cares what but who cares Where are these weird-ass references coming from? It's books. He read and didn't understand years and years ago

That's all that's going on again. I've learned not to chase these rabbit Rabbits down the hole because I have in the past gone down and read things that he's referenced Uh-huh and consistently. They don't say what he says. So I'm not gonna read a whole fucking book by Barry Goldwater I'm just not gonna do it. I don't have time. He had some good ideas. I got a lot of Philip K. Dictory, right? Sorry, I'm on my I'm on two voices from the street. Oh It's his second novel published in 2007 posthumously way after the IMF leaks. Yeah, uh, so the bank holiday

Loses the thread right loses the thread starts rambling, right and we'll get back and Talk a little more about bank holidays are good though. Not in this case. Not in this case, okay? Grease closes banks ahead of referendum UPI Oh, they're having a bank Holiday, Joe Slincey talks about a holiday. It's not that normal holiday. You're out water skiing. I'm having fun It's a holiday It's a Patriot act It's a new freedom initiative it's a affordable care act the doubles and triples prices

But it says affordable Unconvincing a cell to trend these buckets of Horseman or color mix pumpkin pie That had a trending on the front of it or Maybe a man in drag with a mustache. That's the coolest thing And now you do that it's over pretty cool I don't know why that's the top trendy thing for like 10 years in Austin now spread worldwide a guy to dress with a mustache

But as Leslie is the global icon the global's actually chose him. They said you Will be the example of everyone I had an office by Leslie's house made a big living off of his professional homeless He died a few years ago. I don't like to speak ill of the dead. I'm kind of digressing, but oh Oh, indeed you are my friend. Anyways, the point is Kind of like I know a celebrity Greece closes banks ahead of referendum Okay, do you have any idea what he was talking about?

well The reason Greece closed their banks ahead of the referendum was because people were going to Because they didn't know what the referendum was going to turn out. Uh-huh. There was a huge chance They would pull a 1929 and just take as much money out of the banks as possible, which we've all learned is bad It's a super bad thing which is a natural human reaction to do that you'd want to go grab your money Right, but if you do that you're hurting everybody else Yeah, that causes rapid inflation and everybody goes fucking batches So now it seems super evil for people to close banks, but it's actually

It seems manipulative and like hey, right, but also my dad was in Greece during this time No shit. Yeah, my dad goes to Greece a bit for like You know scholastic endeavors and stuff. He's a does he also go on holiday. He doesn't water ski Pretty boring guy. He's super about what about wears a dress and we'll get to that in a minute But he was over there it during this period in 2015 I've talked about it. Yeah, and you know it the thing where if you were a foreigner you could take money out Right So what he was doing and a lot of people were doing was that they were since they had foreign bank accounts

They were taking out tons of money and helping people and so there was a bunch of resources on the ground just independently of The people who couldn't get money out of their own bank account, right? Just you know very helpful not always Americans other European countries that people helping people out So there was people. Yeah, there's a real nice grassroots thing going on there that I have no interest in hearing about no But even beyond that, I mean closing the banks is the right thing to do. Yes bottom line Now he goes on to say that you could say he makes a great point that bad things are named good things The Patriot Act is bad. Yes. It's called the Patriot Act. Yeah, it's new speak right It's or it's Orwellian bullshit that good point

He lasts almost no time having good No He then goes on to rant about men in dresses with moustaches. Yeah, who's Leslie? You don't know I don't know who Lesley globalists picked him to be the face of things I still don't know who that is. I would also like if you're obviously I am not awake I'm going to tell you and the listeners who Leslie is but before I just used what he just used one name He didn't give a last name. I'll say this. I genuinely thought Leslie Nielsen for a second. I'll tell you this I've met Leslie. No shit. Yeah, but also if you don't know who Leslie is or you do

Tweet at us. I want to take a little poll before I tell you who he is Go ahead and sound off. Now. I'll tell you Leslie it was a homeless activist in Austin, Texas He was homeless for many years and was a huge advocate that headed up a lot of causes for homeless rights Police brutality rights these sorts of things He also made a big spectacle out of himself. I wore women's clothing He also was a cross dresser right and would wear women's clothing around like 6th Street And go and hang around get the word out. He'd also like to party. He'd party around too. That's how I ended up meeting him

I was partying on 6th Street and he came up and he was super nice We smoked a cigarette and we hugged. There's a picture of us somewhere But anyway, he died cool. He died in 2012 After he got the shit beat out of him in 2009 He was he was found unconscious outdoors and was transported to the University Medical Center in critical condition in 2009 This is October 3rd 2009 within two weeks He'd regain consciousness and was transferred to a rehabilitation center when he was released on October 23rd 2009 Cochran, that's his last name

Reported that he had been attacked after commenting to a group of people about the dangers of drug abuse Which is reasonably responsible or that's believable. That's within the scope of yeah, his sort of Type of Activism and the like sure also not outside the spectrum of reality that he was beat up because he is an old cross dresser Yeah, there's a possibility that these people beat him up for that after he said something about drug abuse. He is in Texas Those people are there so we got the shit kicked out of him in 2009 and suffered head trauma Then three years later two and a half years later He had health just deteriorated from that and he ended up trying to get some brain surgery

And it was successful, but then he ended up dying after that of complications within a month, right? So he's a very tragic story. He is also a very empowering story of someone who did a lot with his life Made an impression on millions of people and helped with charitable causes that have helped tons and tons of people Yeah, fuck you for minimizing him in such a way to say that he's a Trendy in a dress and a mustache you piece of shit Jones so this this dude was like To the point where now with with all of his support if he had asked for it People would have made him not homeless, correct?

I think at towards the towards the end of his life. You may not have been homeless, right? I think I think throughout I would almost guarantee that after that. I mean Alex Jones did just say he has a house Yeah, that's true. I'm sure but the point is a lot of time home. That's the point being he he did an immense amount of good and Alex Jones has turned that into you are a small Meaningless pawn and for the global aim that you've made money off your homeless act or whatever it was. Yeah Which is because you wore a dress now, which absolutely would gain you much more attention than if you didn't I would also say that he He ran for mayor three times, but unsuccessfully. Yeah, but Austin's full of fucking weirdos like Kinky Friedman runs for office all the fucking time

He writes mystery novels about him and his cat solving crimes. Yeah, like it's full of awesome weird personality It's Austin. Anyway, um as we discussed they had what was it? Was it a balloon store or oh, no a Piñata store pinata specialties pinata store next to a cat sanctuary Thinks that the trendies are trying to shut down. Yeah over his stupidness understanding a bullshit makes perfect sense Um, so I really I thought I love the idea. I'm out of store so much I'm super excited when I was listening to this. I was like, I know Leslie That's awesome. Yeah, that's super cool. Oh, and then he turned it into shit. Alex. Come on He should know better actually he shouldn't Alex is a closed-minded man. Yeah, but

How do you how do you look at somebody who did? That much. Well, I'm not saying he did everything. I'm not saying that either I'm not saying Leslie is the hero of the world. I'm definitely not saying that but by probably also a drunk. Let's be clear Oh, of course. No, there's a reason that mental illness Drinking, you know, all of that stuff. I I have no doubt that by no means was he a saint sure But at the same time I am not a saint and I sure as fuck haven't done as much good as Leslie has we've don't need a little money from this podcast Yeah, exactly. We donate a little bit to charity. Yeah, we do we do our best, but

That's definitely not on that scope or level. No, no, no, no So to to turn that into something Like that, it's just fucking offensive and from everything I could look up I see no evidence of globalist involvement In his life. So now you might be asking yourself. Was he funded by Hamdi? Oh I know we're making fun of his making fun of Alex. We're making fun of Alex, but yeah Uh, you might be asking yourself. All right. This is two years in the past. Yes

Did Alex Jones always have his smooth ass transitioning into a sales pitch skills. Did he you might be asking yourself that? I don't think he did. All right. Let's see But the foreign banks can own jet aircraft and ship the drugs out of the country publicly. They can be in the news Nobody gets in trouble Before I go any further when I tell you stuff selling out We never know what's going to be the best seller everything we promote and push it in for The fact that he went from the foreign banks to his own bullshit So the answer is blatant and oh god, the answer is kind of no

Yeah, because he did also have a long pause and then a So no, he's not he wasn't always as good. No by no means or he might be just having an off day But now he's gets into this sales pitch. He's overly concerned with uh, uh gay marriage And he refuses to talk about and getting sued out of existence in two and a half years Yeah, uh, but he he gets into this sales pitch and it's too long for me to play it in its entirety. Uh, but He said something and I was like Huh, it's a good thing that I listen to alex jones every day The only time I've ever said that no, it's not but if I did it is a dangerous thing to hear mental

If I didn't uh, I would not have been able to recognize this next clip as evidence of a lie In a clip that we played on the march 30th episode He invalidates an argument that he made this march two years in the past This is very exciting for me. You are a fucking lunatic. Listen to this though. I love you But that is the craziest thing I have ever heard in my entire but listen to this clip I think you'll agree with me. All right. So when I tell you survival shield x2 is going to be selling out soon We're selling out of this proprietary iodine very quickly group is close to hopefully getting more of the deep earth crystals

But you have to go to them I don't want to get into all of it It's very complex to go in on the market Contracts you got a bid to try to get these aggregates that are very rare and by rare deep earth iodine's not rare The clean stuff is and then most people aren't going to drill In a 5 10 million dollar drilling operations to go 12,000 feet to get it I mean it cost millions of dollars So that's why it's hard to get because you got to find the weirdo companies that are out drilling in the right area that will go for this

I mean, it's it's it's it's finite stuff because people aren't drilling for it We're the weirdos that you know understand how important it is and go out and get it if you want survival shield x2 Secure yours today info wars life.com Now the clip from the march 30th episode is way too fucking long for me to play here because it's a nine minute Almost at the point of tears drunk sales pitch Yes, I recall that one you you remember what he was saying and I will refresh for the listeners What he was saying is he was on march 30th of 2017 He was saying that the globalists were trying to cut off his iodine supply

And he was using almost every single argument that he just made here For why they yeah But he was saying that it was some sort of concerted effort against him Yeah, two years later, but two years before he's like listen not many people do this It's expensive that sort of thing What an asshole now I can I could I could see the argument being made that two years ago The globalists weren't trying to take his deep earth iodine Okay, and now that they know about his deep earth iodine and the wacky people who do that

Now they're going for it I don't like I don't I love your I love your speechlessness. It's not speechless. It's frustration because it's like Yes, okay fine. All right. See done. Well problem solved. That's how the alex jones game is played I'm selling alex jones now. You could legitimately do that for every single argument against him Now what if they were doing it? Well, do you know why fine? I've been taking deep earth iodine. Oh, no I'm I'm super powered I don't need super male vitality. I'm doing just fine right there. Sure, but without my deep earth iodine

I don't have the energy. Mm-hmm. I don't have the whatever else it is deep. I hear deep earth iodine. It's unclear It's unclear. It's no. I don't know why the crystals are so important. I don't either I I don't understand any of the deep earth iodine thing and according to all of the scientific research that I have read There is absolutely no I have read some reviews of some of his products recently And I don't know if they're jokes or not The best type of jokes like they're so bizarre that I don't know if they're someone making it like just trolling

I have no idea. Okay, but there are a number of them for caveman His bone broth the bone broth That uh our milley weaver finds. She loves it tastes like chocolate There's a bunch of them though that have the same sort of pattern. They follow the same pattern that is I Can't not take this now Okay, but it's not like I feel so good when I'm on it. It's addiction. I feel so shitty when I don't take it And that to me is addiction that to me indicates

Like I I know from past drug use Yeah, right that you get into an elevated state for a long enough time normal feels shitty Yeah And so if you're taking something that really fucks with you like your metabolism Really fucks with your heart rate whatever bone this the chaga mushroom and all this bullshit Never heard of the chaga mushroom. No, I I I don't know what the fuck else is in there It's not been evaluated by the FDA

But neither has like yellow jackets and shit like that right trucker speed. No all of the all of the GNC Vitamin pills and all of that shit none of that is regulated by the FDA So there could be and they definitely spend billions of dollars to make sure and well, they don't have to spend billion They spend millions of dollars because our politicians are that cheap Yeah, but it isn't even hard to buy our politicians now It makes total sense to me like it two things could make sense to me one that these are joke reviews Yes, the other thing that could totally I would believe is that it really fucks you up

Yeah, in a good way. It's drug dependency. Basically. Yeah, and now when you don't take it You're like, oh, I'm so deplete because I don't have my bone broth Right a couple of them like if I don't drink for two days a couple of them We're even like once this goes off sale. I'm not going to be able to afford it and I'm really gonna miss it I need it. Oh god is really a huge bummer. That's really sad which actually could Bring into focus his economic model a little bit Yeah, if there is stuff that you sort of have it first taste is a 51% off for the three baby. Yeah, 53% off It totally makes sense as a model. Uh, if you well drug dealers have been doing it for decades

So you've got a couple more clips and then we're gonna delve into two Adventures adventurisms that happen on this episode. Okay. Uh, this next clip, uh, though is Really really unfortunate and Alex is watch walking what I would describe as a like a tight rope of a metaphor And I don't think he succeeds But I love his I love his inability to metaphor. Correct. This is dangerous His ability to metaphor is like if I threw A hundred black widows Into his studio right but kept them in their own separate pen. Okay

Great metaphor. That's a great metaphor I'm gonna say because this is such a tight rope. Let's put the mic down and enjoy this because Let's put the mic down. I think we're going to hear him make Something that borders on a very racist metaphor No We could assess it after the fact but how it hits my ears is very racist Wait, why would you say it's borderline if then you're like because I could see an argument for what he's trying to say This is like a deep earth crystal thing. It is it is

You're only given a place at the table He's talking about with the globalists If you work against What's wholesome and good Because instinctively they want to bring down what's wholesome and good even though they feed off of it Because they're jealous of it and they're diametrically opposed to it and they have historical and genetic memories That the good has defeated them over and over again when I say them I mean corrupt people throughout history are all the same

And that's why they argue When I talk about genetics, I don't mean a black bloodline or a white bloodline or an asian bloodline But within blacks asians whites, whatever everybody knows That you you can say Oh, no, don't get that doxen. It comes from really mentally ill biters That's really a screwed up breeder. They got problems. Oh, this breeders wonderful. Nice sweet smart dogs Well, it's the same thing with humans You've got a race between good loving creators who just want to be healthy and happy and care about others and who don't think about power

And people that do want the power And who crave it And who aren't gonna let you go work nine to five and put your kids through college And then go out to the lake cottage on the weekend They're going to destroy your world because they're going to conquer you Because they know that things are gonna get so bad. You're gonna finally wake up and get together and bring them down And so they're there working always working When we come back, I'll give the number out and we're gonna get the latest mark dice video. It's one of the worst ever

We're gonna get to one of the worst mark dice videos ever and you know what I agree it's terrible But uh, so let's assess that let's assess that metaphor That is so racist It's more racist that he couches it with the I'm not talking about a black blood He immediately went to I am protecting myself from this racist day. He's pulling a full on. I'm not a racist But perfectly. Yes, absolutely. That is a seamless transition into old white dude racism Now the reason I said it was on the border is because what the point he's trying to make I think is that these globalists come from different stock than us. Yeah

They were genetically engineered by yakub. Yeah I think I'm a full on member of the 5% nation now. I hope you know that I am glad to have another inductee uh, but like I I just I I don't think You can ever you can ever make that argument succinctly like that. He's trying to make When you're using genetic lines and stuff like that. So so unless unless unless you're going full hog You're just going all the way and you are saying that the elites are made up of the like

Nine powerful bloodlines that existed from bloodline if you're going that far and you're going david iconos, right? Then Your metaphor is fine. You're not being racist. You're being an idiot. Yeah, and patently anti-semitic like I I think his So the way I understood it was he was trying to say as Alex jones is possible that

all humans are genetically Good But the people who are genetically bad Are like the doxon who's a biter who's a biter. I don't know now There's now now if you want if you want to pull the the doxon Transcends race in this metaphor I'm fine with that except he picked a very specific

genetic thing Like the doxon in particular is more likely to bite. I don't I I don't see any way to get out of this without you at least going Alex You know You're being racist, right? Well, especially because it is because the because the get off the air music started playing too And it got loud. Yeah, they they really they Somebody was in the buck buckley was just at the potentiometer. Yeah, exactly up up up. No, no, Alex Alex back in way

Uh, he Alex is an insane biter He should but here I think if I could crystallize this deep earth crystallize this I think the reason that it comes off as racist and is Is because this argument has been made by racists since time immemorial Yeah, the idea that certain races are inferior because of the shitty bloodline. Yeah, and what have you yeah So whenever you try and make that argument the exact same argument about something different It has that baggage that comes along with it. Absolutely. And when you're talking about something like You know that was the justification for slavery and when you're talking like from the start

They were like well genetically they're blah blah blah. They're they're predetermined to to be Less than right and and when he you know, I mean again This relates directly back to the protocols of the elders of Zion This is a belief that the the alleged Zionist cabal has about humans and the Alex thinks that the globalists have about us. Yeah, it's a it's a direct mirror through this Racist now it's racist metaphor and I think another reason that it is racist I have to stick this down is because the idea of the behavior of being a biter

Something like that that is something that is in your genes. Uh-huh. That is not like Instead of learned behavior. Yeah, it's it's just it's it's really troubling It's really troubling for me to hear him make arguments like that Right, especially because if you are a racist and you hear that You get it then and that also then you get it that is also like a smokescreen for you to say you're not racist Because he preamble it with the it's not about white black or Asian which are the only People he is aware of sure

Uh, so you get to like hide behind that where you say no, no, no, it's not that I'm racist It's that I'm talking about genetics. Yeah, not skin color Right, but you know, I'm not talking about racism. I'm talking about phrenology Right, right. So some people are good and some people are bad and that's because of their genes and their blood lines and maybe The people that I think are bad are ones who don't look right Uh, so we let's get off this uh At this point Alex introduces the fact that he's going to start taking calls

Yes, I saw that he uh, he did say he's gonna open up the phone lines When he comes back he's introduces the topics that he wants to talk about wants to talk about grease He wants to talk about how the world is being overrun by these globalists Right, and then he poses this question that I think is poorly framed Will this be the big global meltdown coming up this winter early next year? It may be or will it just be another global crisis that they engineer to get even more power and more bailouts While blaming it on grace Seems like neither of those options like that. There's the third option, you know

What's that? I don't know a third option I can't say any Either this is going to be the great global meltdown right or it's just going to be another thing that the globalists have orchestrated Right, so it's going to be the great global meltdown right right or a global crisis Not quite. It's like it's either going to be the worst thing ever or just the worst thing Yeah, he also doesn't really end up taking any meaningful calls He does talk to one guy about uh more about russia and it's the exact same sort of stuff. He's playing the fans and being like Yeah, uh, but

None of the calls were worthwhile and it sucks because they take up a good amount of the show So we lose like a good 40 minute chunk of usable material just because it's like such garbage these phone calls But before he gets to taking phone calls in earnest Now, let me ask you a question about those phone calls real quick. I love it. Were there any that weren't like just Uh jerk off agreement fests. Um, did any did any conversation really happen one There was someone named grandma who called in all right I'm already on board and she wanted to talk about how the bond market if it falls apart That is a that is a bad way to talk to alex jones

If it falls apart then people's pensions won't get paid Yes, and alex tries to talk like he understands the situation. No clue. He doesn't she doesn't either So it's really troubling and a third party. I don't really either but I can smell bullshit And they're just dancing around alex is using five dollar words and she's like, you know You always talk about this this othering thing where you know, you got uh divide and conquer mentalities He always talk about black and white, but you never talk about and he's like, are you do mean generations, man? Like interrupts her He's like, yes, that is another thing. We do talk about it. We should talk about it more buckley get write that down

Let's talk about it more great generations. Yeah, everybody trying to turn the young against the old like all right Thanks buckley So yeah, I mean that was kind of not a like agreement fast, but it still it wasn't tension um, but Another thing he does a bunch on this episode is introduce topics that he's gonna get to and doesn't right He keeps having like we'll get to classic alex jones fashion. We'll get to it in the next break Uh, never gets to him this first one. Uh, right. Did we ever come back to ferrican? Nope. Uh, how about uh, let's see

Uh, I I've got the the band the american flag. Did we ever get to that one? We're about to in a minute. Fuck. Yes I'm so happy about that one because that one was the first thing where I was like, fuck. Yeah, let's get into this alex jones Shit, so I actually have a lot to say about that. But before we get to it. He has to talk about a story. He's not gonna get to We're also gonna look at the aclu now not supporting religious freedom of speech saying restrict it Just like the aclu don't only used an open society to where we accepted all this quote alternative stuff Now we're not going to be tolerated No matter what your view is don't believe in man-made global warming don't want to pay all gore attacks Boom you're in trouble

Yes, don't want to um Hire a trainee to be your catholic, uh, school teacher. I don't even want you to say shut down And we're not joking don't want to have a catholic church or your Protestant church pay for abortions Boom you're shut down. Nope. Good. This is the opposite of tolerance. It's the big communal system No one is forcing a church to pay for abortions. Nope everybody was no Oh, yeah, I remember it in 2015 I remember the most important thing that I talked about with a lot of people was like, hey, you know what I want I want to force churches to pay for my abortion. I'm not even having one. Nope

Give me money. Oh, yeah catholic church. Also, nobody forced alex to pay for those abortions. So wink Uh, so anyway, it goes on. It's the great tyranny You have a right to put on a dress Yes But you do not have a right to the dress To not have foreign banks destroy your country. This is the great joke of social engineering Where they made being trendy The new religion and now people it's perfect because they can change the dogma day to day hour to hour with the new

accepted reality whatever that may be and so they only With a quasi Puritanical nation like the u.s. That was really always peratical and wild right under the surface They make it sex and quote deviance to be the bait so that we accept whatever the new changes are And now we've opened the door up to whatever they want It's politically incorrect to let your 11 year old play basketball in the backyard. You'll be arrested You let your seven-year-old daughter in your small town run across as you watch her out the window and play at the park like I did I used to go to my grandparents house. It was in Hyde park in austin

And I'd be six seven years old and I'd not stand with them during the summer and I'd run across the street You guys look up the name of the park in austin any in Hyde park it'll it'll pop in my head in a minute so Spoiler alert he talks about going to this park for like four minutes You really lost the thread in terms of complaining about the ACLU But uh, so that 11 year old kid who got arrested for uh, you got taken by the Authorities for playing basketball in his own yard. Oh, that was a real thing Yeah, it was a story that did happen

There were neighbors who thought that the parents weren't uh being or they were negligent Because the kid was always home alone because they got off work much later as a lagy situation Yeah, uh, and but there you know what it is nosy neighbors Uh, I believe the situation kind of fucked them I looked into it and I think it is like guys mind your fucking business, right? But their motivation was protecting this child because their concern was he didn't have water Didn't have food for the time that the parents were or didn't have access to a bathroom because he was locked out of his house So that is not good. So then the and to make the matters worse the mom

Whenever she was being questioned about it was like the officers themselves said he had a big yard He could have gone to the bathroom on it Like all right. So you know that's that's like hey, you know I left the dog alone in the house for two weeks while I was on vacation, but I left enough food for him Yeah, you're you're showing yourself to not be super Into what people are complaining about yeah mom. Yeah, but uh, I I tend to agree that it you know They shouldn't have had the kids taken away and they did get them back Yeah, it was it was a fucked up situation a little bit, but it's not what alex is talking about

He's saying that it is like this. They are good. They're they're trying to destroy the family and take away your kids Try to desensitize you to things like this. Absolutely always extenuating circumstances. There's always a reason why um, you know People these things happen. Yeah. No, I mean any time any time a right winger tells me one of those anecdotes if you look into it for a Second if you just google it all of a sudden you start finding shit where you're like No, this wasn't that. Yeah, you think it's this but in reality Unfortunately, there are a number of people on the left who do that too, but

It's usually not as a like obvious or at least not as awful. Yeah And their agenda is generally to create more Good things. Yeah, so I it's still bad to use lies and propaganda, but it's not usually like if alex jones gets his way We're living in a very dark place. Yeah, if Sort of left. Do you mean do you mean now if left wing do you mean when he got his way and trump was elected? Well, but let's let's say like if and not just trump the entire Congress is republican and so on and so forth and still can't get the fucking supreme court Well, they're all

Right again. There are saving grace is these people by virtue by virtue of what they believe They are already revealing themselves to be dumb sure so again our saving grace Is we are being run by people too dumb to enact the dumb shit? They want to do they're in that like that uh that upper right quadrant of the evil stupid Yeah, uh Yeah, they are both evil and stupid, but they're too stupid to enact enough evil. Yeah, yeah But but the point I was going to say is that like if you take someone like keith oberman There's something like that who is kind of a left wing propagandist, right? You could possibly label him as that

Uh if he got his way We just have more social programs that might be better safety nets for people and if you built that on a lie I'm not super thrilled with that. I don't think that's good, but the end result is way better than us having Uh a mentally decaying bigot as our president That is probably for the better and and just totally scaling back I mean every single day. It's some new fucking thing. Uh, but Anyway, god that is that is the perfect summation of the world we live in right now. Me clearing my every single day It's a new fucking thing. It's a new thing rolled back that oh school lunch programs are going away. Oh god

I just Cool Like let's privatize it again. I am I swear to you This is the ultimate frustration I would absolutely live with this bullshit If he had the most aggressive anti-climate change policy I know we've been over this there's so much shit that I would tolerate because then the human race would continue And we could fucking correct the course. Well, the good news is there's a breakaway globalist society. They will continue

We'll just all die. So that is good. You know who cares about the planet. I gotta give them a call. Yeah, I know They rejected my application They rejected my application. Tweet at your boy Tweet at your boys. All right. So now it's time for us to get to the source. You know, you want to become a policy wonk policy Walk That's our battle cry. Yeah, it's a very bad If it ends on that kind of minor key, it's a very bad battle cry. So yon suggested initially

June 24th. Yes, and I did listen to that episode and it was Shock a block with talk about how It's evil and wrong the people are trying to get the confederate flag taken down from places Fuck you if you think it's evil and their argument is it's a free speech thing Fuck you. Right. Great. Uh, I don't I don't want to have that argument because I don't care I I don't care if someone has a confederate flag in their car in their house Publicly, I don't really even care. But if it's like a state building or something like that, I very much care That's bad. Hey, if you're if you're

If you're not a horrifying racist No, I don't even that's great. I don't even but generally speaking. I don't even subscribe to that If you have a confederate flag You're doing it. I don't I don't subscribe to that. I'm get I give a wide berth to it. I think that there are There are legitimate free speech And things that you could point to there's a but that is the smokescreen argument for I want my racism to be left. There's a vast majority of people who celebrate old Dixie who are Huge racists. Yeah, but that's not all of them

The vast majority but that's not all of them and I don't think it's right to ban a flag I do think it's wrong to have it up in state buildings and stuff like that And I think for the most part, that's the argument that people have had. I don't think that there is A legitimate or widespread group who is saying let's ban the flag period Let's ban the confederate flag period. But that is alex's position on it Alex thinks that that's what people are doing It's the same thing with the 10 commandments in front of the the courthouse. Sure. Nobody wants to ban you Reading the 10 fucking commandments. Nope, but I don't want those in front of the courthouse because that is not

Justice that implies that it's christian justice. Exactly, which would be a bad daytime Super bad daytime unless it unless it was a christian bail. Yeah, god damn it. You got there first I was gonna say christian okoye football star christian okoye from the chiefs And other teams, uh, but so alex extrapolates. I am the justice in the night alex on daytime tv tune in 11 a.m So alex on the 24th is going hog

Wild about this he is just going on like next they're gonna ban the american flag. Yep So that's what he says and he like rush limbaugh is saying the same thing. Mm-hmm, and Here's what ends up happening mark dice One of the worst special reports ever he goes out And does one of his field pieces. We've talked about mark dice before Am I gonna have to listen to mark dice? You are. Oh, I think this is the first time i'll have had No, this is the second. Okay. Uh, we've listened to one of his reports before he's very ineffective as a man on the street

He I think has some kind of A personality disorder. He's unable disability. He's unable to make eye contact with people as he's interviewing them on the street He looks past them. That's weird. It's upsetting Uh, to watch it's it's not fun. It's not good, but Alex jones sent mark dice out or my my mark might have come up with his own his own I have no fucking idea. He may just be wandering around with a video camera. It's possible. Yeah So he goes out and tries to get people to sign camera. There's a video camera. Yeah, I know but what what world am I living? Anyways continue. It's an iphone. Yeah, exactly

So he goes around with a clipboard trying to get people on the beach to sign a petition trying to get a new flag Uh, get rid of the old glory and get a new flag In order in honor of the new world order and it would be a pyramid Uh, he's very fast the one with hulk hogan No, I wish. Oh the two sweets. Yeah, exactly. Uh, no, it's not that one It's the like on the back of the dollar bill. They all seeing eye on the pyramid He's very fast and loose with the details about it naturally. So he goes out and does this video Alex posts it on info wars

Drudge report links to the video and because of that Alex on info wars starts reporting that people are calling for the american flag to be banned He has made it's a loop of bullshit. It's a complete oraboros of lies It is insane to see it like just literally this is exactly what's going on. It's amazing They're making the news. They're commenting on the news and then they're commenting becomes news itself Exactly it's the fox news model of right wing. There is no news at the at the bottom of it. There is nothing There is no like there is nobody who's asking for the flag to be banned

Right, there is only mark dice on the street. That is all there is and now we're gonna listen to mark dice's report And I want to tell you i'm gonna pause it at a couple points Because I have taken notes about all of these people that he goes and talks to excellent and it doesn't look good for him Listen to it. Here we go Here is that report from mark dice We help to support the banning the american flag. We're issuing a new new american flag. Hold on Hold on somebody the moment he said that somebody's like no, fuck you. Yep is first thing His first person is already against him. Two people. No

I'm out of here. So he's already he's already negated it like even fox news would have edited that guy out Yeah, or put him in the middle somewhere like that. Yeah, and then it's like hey We got one patriot in there and then had mark dice make a funny face to the camera something like that Yeah, if you're a pro some straight up bullshit. Yeah, so the next guy he talks to is a guy in an american flag a T Yes, and an american flag hat and he's drunk He's on the beach like he's not staggering around alex jones style drunk But he's he's having a good time out there on the beach probably looking for looking for a wife. Right. I'm saying he's out there

He's looking for his uh Never mind. I don't want to ruin it, but he also does not sign the petition And a lot of a lot of people are offended by the american flag It has a history of imperialism and the american flag. Yeah in racism as well. So we're just we're having a petition to uh To implement a new american flag. Would you help to sign the petition to issue a new new american flag for a new world order It sounds like a great idea, but I do not like to sign things

so That's what you say when you don't want to sign something and you're like, you're a creep dude. Just fucking get out You're a weirdo. Get out of my face. Now at this point someone who I think is a plant Charges into the shot. Okay. His face is never shown He comes in and he aggressively signs the petition. Right. I don't think this is a real person. That's bullshit. Yeah That that's that guy a mean like that is exactly what I said to somebody who is like, um Do you want to help save the dolphins? It sounds like a great idea. Mm-hmm

But I'm gonna leave you. I gotta go. I have other non-dolphin related activities to do right now I gotta be over there. I believe it's a good idea. I'm gonna go I'm gonna get out of here. This isn't personal, but I gotta go. No, I gotta be not here with you right now because you're weird Why aren't you looking at me? Why aren't you looking at me? Mark dice. This isn't how humans interact. Yeah. Oh my god. He scares me so much He has so little charisma Like I've said this about people like I don't know the Jerome Corsies of the world the david knights Yeah, I would I would fucking go to across the world in a balloon with david night

Before I sat down. Ah, but I put a hundred black widows in that balloon. So there you go. You're stuck. That's a metaphor So here comes the guy who who just charges in So you think I mean a lot of you can understand a lot of people are offended by the uh Yeah, a lot of people A lot of people are offended by the american flag. It has a history of oppression and imperialism Oh my god, you were so fucking boring there to support issuing a new american flag for the new world order I think it's about time we do that. Wouldn't you agree? Maybe something with like an all-seeing eye and a pyramid on so as he's trying to just fuck. Yeah, man

So as he's trying to describe what the new flag would look like the guy just walks off He's like he signs it and he's like, yeah, I'm out of here. Fuck yeah, man And or just something to represent the new world order. Thank you for supporting that part of the new world order is to Basically ban the old american flag and we're gonna put up a new This guy, I don't know if he speaks english Because he doesn't say anything he doesn't seem to register awareness of the things that mark dice is saying right He's wearing like a muscle tee and he just sort of like

Is just sort of looking at him confused Signs the thing and then without saying a word walks away just walks away now I will admit I also like the reaction of the guy who signs it and then just says fuck yeah and then walks away I don't hate it. I think he's fake because that's pretty funny too Like I might do that just be like hey, whatever man. Fuck. Yeah, I'll sign this shit Yeah, I might do that if I were drunk. Anyway, uh, so the he's just talking to this guy Who doesn't say a word back to him and then alex goes on a fucking just tease off on this guy with a muscle shirt New american flag over the capital to signify the new world order, but we just needed some more signatures

Thanks for supporting the new american flag We're pulling down the confederate flag and Back up to that last guy that that that fella is the quintessential Modern tough guy trendy. There's different types of trendies Hundreds of different variants, but just knows how to act tough. Those are the people. Yeah And that's what our nation is. It's just a bunch of guys walking around acting tough And they don't want to know what's going on. They just want to look cool to other people And put on a front

But if you look at these guys eyes every time They just have this weak look at them It's so pathetic Do you think this guy is white or not? Um, I'm gonna go with New bingo And he signs it To ban the american flag seven out of ten dead here it is

orders to Basically ban the old american flag and we're gonna put up a new american flag Over the capital to signify the new world order, but we just needed some more signatures Thanks for supporting the new american flag We were pulling down the confederate flag in a lot of cities to end the era of racism and Who cares? Fuck this. This is so boring. We're gonna put up a ton of american flag Let me walk you through. Do you want to ban the american flag and let me walk you I like the american flag

Mark shut up flags are fun and Let me walk you through who the rest of the people are so the next person he talks to is a really nice girl Who is I think she's just super excitable and happy. Okay, and she's like, oh That's interesting Doesn't seem to have a feeling about it either way Next person he talks to is a lady and he's like, hey, we're gonna try and get a new flag and she's like no I like the stars and bars It walks away from

Two guys walk up One of them is a chubby dude in a tie dye t-shirt Probably Okay, it's him and another guy Okay, they're two skateboard dudes and like tie dyed shirt and the other guy's like in a muscle shirt Uh, because they're on a beach because they're on the fucking beach Yeah, why would you go to the beach for this shit? Because you know that dumb people are there people who don't want to answer your questions and you can twist it into being

Yeah, but just go to a mall He might not be allowed in that's a good point only open air areas. Yeah mark dice clay is not allowed in So the the only he's got a weird restraining order Only only open areas 20 feet outside of any public place So there's these two dudes, uh, who may or may not be high and they both sign it But they're also like whatever we don't care right And then the last group that they talk to before he cuts it off is two dudes who are straight up

Baked out of their mind. Okay, they got sunglasses on and one of them is just staring at mark dice with his mouth slightly open Uh One of them doesn't have a shirt on but has a backpack and they're great. Love that guy. What are you doing mark dice? And uh, yeah I I don't know what point you're making but if it is that people want the american flag It seems like he made the exact opposite opposite point I didn't haven't most of the people we've heard have just been like fuck off There's one first guy who was actually a group of two said absolutely not

The second guy said No, there's the lady who walked away and then there's the random dude who ran up and was like fuck. Yeah Everybody who did sign it except for that guy who I do think was fake. I think it was a plant everybody else was ambivalent about it They don't care It's a point the you're a random dude asking questions on a beach. Don't be a dick right now That's all all I heard in that clip is and it's not even like the the shitty Leno like man on the street bit where he gets people to actually talk to him and answer questions and have that Yeah, it's just a bullshit like he thinks it's a prank. He thinks it's a prank. It's not a prank

There is nothing here because if you sign that Then so what if you ambivalently politely sign that for it that doesn't prove that you want the american flag band That just proves that you're a decent person who doesn't know how to have boundaries Yeah, like the or just like that like the easiest way to get him to go away is to sign his petition Exactly, you know that nothing is gonna come from it because that's such a wildly stupid idea I've signed hundreds of things. I don't agree with yeah, it does it doesn't matter. There's no possibility of that like even if you hate america Which is most of the g.o.p. You're not going to sign

You're not going to actually want the american flag to go away like it genuinely Regardless of america's horrific actions throughout our existence the Stars and stripes really is a symbol of what it is we like it's it's made by a woman Yeah, it's it's everything that america wishes it could be it is all of the All of the states represented it is all of us together It is built around that idea of either we hang together or we hang separately Now you're using alex jones quotes that but that is no i'm that's not okay. All right. He came up with that. I'm done

I'm done. I'm out. So actually we'll shakespeare We're uh, we're coming towards the end of it, but for the last about hour and a half of the show Yeah, he has an interview with this guy named lionel one name like madonna lionel And uh, this guy is wacky He is a fast talking new york dude like he is Is he's something else i've seen him on the show before okay, and I really i strongly disagree with him about almost everything, but i don't hate hearing him talk

He's one of those guests I don't I wouldn't be in a hot air balloon across the world with him. Uh-huh, but i'd take a short trip with it Okay, maybe that's all right on the scale. We're not talking about cross-country road trip But if you picked him up and he was like hey, i'm 20 miles down the road you're like Maybe let's see what's up depends on what the speed limit is but yes Okay, we're talking to the american southwest where you can get 20 miles and 15 minutes I mean so they have a really long interview where they just talk globalists and and like I

I caught out so much. That's just so repetitive. Uh, uh, but at one point Lionel starts describing what his plan would be if he was going to destroy our country And it's kind of interesting. I'm on board because i'm already on board because two years later See if you see any similarities to what's going on. Okay now if I were going to destroy this country Here's what I would do first and foremost. I would distract with bread and circuses The people more than ever number two I would have as a foundation for much of the economy

This tissue thin veneer this latticework of cotton candy of air called the derivative You say one and a half maybe two could be four or five quadrillion dollars of nothing sold then I would throw in The myth alex of american exceptionalism. I would always have This is exactly how you've destroyed the country accidentally is this guy the architect behind this whole thing I can't believe it 40 episodes in spit take I genuinely spit take wine. I don't know but that is he's he just pulled the perfect Like that's trump rally trump rallies derivatives american exceptionalism

That's exactly what we're god damn it. This man might be a genius But he's saying it is this is what the globalists are doing. Yeah, not what um Well, unless trump who has recently come out. Yep as an internationalist and a globalist Well alex is uh, he said well, I didn't really mean it Fuck off alex battered spouse. That's it. That's what he did not really. No, he's he's look. He's a good guy once you get to No, he's just he's just saying that because he has to and it's not that big a deal So he has a lionel is a little more. Okay News and we're the gret we are impenetrable

We are never going to be portorico or greece or iceland or portugal or the eu We're the united states. We are immunized. We have a vaccine against this strange language for vaccine denier show He would like that is exactly what trump is doing with We're gonna renegotiate these deals because we're gonna be immune from all this He's promising us this exceptionalism. No, that is that is a perfect summation Like if I were going to destroy the country, I would hire lionel To be my campaign supervisor because that guy is fucking on it Yeah, so he has a there's a there's another phase to this destruction of uh, I know you love phases

I'm a big fan of phases. So there's another I was very disappointed by our previous phase situation where we had one phase that was Split up into three phases. I'm not I'm not certain. This is a discreet phase either, but we'll see okay And then we're gonna confuse people We're gonna cause the american people to be always upset over something and fool them and dupe them into thinking That they're involved. We're gonna let them think that there's some confederate war flag or battle flag controversy You're on it lionel, but he's that's like what he's on it What alex says about the globalists in terms of externalizing their plans. That's literally what they're doing. That's just what he did

Yeah, like I perfect like we've already illustrated here this idea that they We need to track down lionel. We took the no way we need to find lionel for a cross country trip I want to know where he's at. He wouldn't talk to us. That's the dude. That's the dude Uh, so I mean we've already shown this fake story about banning the american flag going from an info wars video to an article on info wars To a link on drudge to something it is reported on the alex jones show. Yep That is creating fake outrage to confuse these dumb people now. Here's that here's the bullshit part of it Here's why lionel always something to be outraged. Here's why lionel is an asshole Because what he's talking about is people who are legitimately offended by

In this case The confederate flag Which is denying people their feelings about the history of brutal racism Right, so that part is what he's really talking about when he said something give people something to be mad about right it is A complete perfect demonstration. I wanted to bring this up earlier. I can't remember which clip it was But hold on he's not like the american flag has the exact same history of brutal racism No, no, no, no, no, no no, no, no, no It's not like racism stopped. You're not wrong. But you're off on the wrong tangent

You're off the wrong direction. I think what i'm saying is we need to ban the american flag and I would sign your petition to that It's not about that Because that's not all that he's talking about. He's talking about all of these identity politics kinds of things All of these ideas about trendies and men in dresses with mustaches All of this stuff is parceled within that and it is a perfect expression of this Angry male privilege white male privilege that alex expresses right everything that is like Black lives matter is like why are you guys getting bogged down in this one? We have globalists to deal with right. It's this idea that anytime that you're pissed off about these things

It's divide and conquer strategies So if you care about the confederate flag or if you care about because he even says I don't remember Which episode it was in it might have been in one of the other ones I listened to and we're not covering But he's talking about like yeah, sure cops shoot a black guy every week I see articles about them shooting white guys too. It's like we Hope you're not right. Yeah, all right. You're not understanding. Also dismissiveness. Also. That's also bad. Right We're I'm against cops shooting white guys too. You can be against both The point of the the fact that he that cops are shooting black people is that that is

Endemic well, that is something that has such a long history and it is something that is so targeted and aggressive That it is a paramount. Well, right to me, right? And I think that it definitely says more about your priorities when you're mad At people who are complaining about cops shooting black people because no one like they aren't also mentioning the white Yeah, hey, what if we had a father's day, huh? There you your mother's day, you know, it's always about celebrating women like what if what if we had a white history month, huh? What if we had a white history month? Everybody be outraged, but nobody talks about that. Nobody talks about that. Yeah It's that missing. It's missing the mark and as they frame it as

Society is confused. Yeah, society is being tricked by this divide and conquer game That's the way they can elevate themselves in the same way that alex inoculates himself from that dog metaphor By saying i'm not racist by being like look, it's the global strength of divide and conquer. You don't see it You're confused and dumb. I'm not against your point. I just think that it's so inconsequential compared to my Uh, this the the issues that I a very smart, right white man have figured out you're white explaining, right? It's very stupid. It's it's a bummer. It's a it's so depressing because it seems and it's it's one of those things that comes up over and over and over again uh the idea that

They're doing what we're doing. Yeah, so we can do it Yeah, like this is just they're doing it. So we have to fight them Which justifies us doing it. Yeah, and it's it's always it's always the playbook like oh, they're playing the victim Whenever they say that religious freedom is is uh, you know, it's it's a terrible thing. It's it's exactly what you're you're Fuck you like I just want to I that's why we're so great because we don't play that game I can't respond without screaming at these people because it's so frustratingly It's so it's uh, it's very obvious unless you have an agenda. Yeah, and when you have an agenda It's obvious to you, but the reason you have that agenda is so you never really have to look at it

Um, so we have two more clips one is uh Lionel also being an asshole again And this this gets into the world being run by bankers Which is conspicuously uh, no wrong Well, what I'm never going to ever let people understand The what and who runs the world are a very small group of central banks and very very Of at the top of the pyramid these elite banksters and all there is is mega banks big energy and weapons This is jews. Yep. You guys are being jews

Hmm That's that's antisemitism But it's when you say that banks are powerful. Yes, they are but it's not wrong Like they own like like 62 people own more than the bottom half of the entire entire world right like the bankers By our politicians, but the 62 people purely bought but the 62 people that own all of the wealth aren't all No, they're not all getting together No, they're not all getting together around some of them are like mark zuckerberg Right, some of them are people like that or like mark cuban

You know like he has billions of dollars mark, right, but like they're not central bankers Like you understand that's not like no that argument falls flat. I I I I agree with you in that bankers here is code for antisemitism a hundred percent. There's no doubt about that Especially banksters. Yeah, this is purely do we not bleed like will shakespeare. Uh, it's it's that whole thing But but at the same time that there is again, this is an area where the kernel of truth is important because again Bankers are fucking everybody over. Yeah

That is a thing. Yeah, but I still and they are colluding together I still will not side with alex and his cohorts because I know what they're saying Yeah, exactly They're not saying the same things that you or I or someone even though they're using the same words That's the that's the problem. I have right right. It's dog whistly. Yeah, it's it's It can't be taken outside of the context of all of these other things that they do all of these other All of these other like it's insane. I I understand that I keep bringing up The protocols of the elders of Zion and I intended to get way more into it in this episode than we have but we just

I haven't we will that the thing like literally multiple things that he says directly mirror Like parts from that very debunked right anti-semitic book, right? All right. It is Clear that most of his philosophy comes from that and he also doesn't understand that it's anti-semitism I think that is something that it's Yeah, that I think that is something where we we waffle on It's most likely because I don't think I genuinely think he's more of a an out-and-out white nationalist as opposed to an out-and-out anti-semit

I agree, uh, but like the the the point I'm trying to make is that Within that landscape when you say something like the world is run by a small group of elite banksters You can't say that and have alex resoundingly agree with you without it being taken as part Of that cosmology right part of that world and philosophy that he's built and anybody who listens to his show Whether they're consciously aware of where that philosophy comes from or not they know that philosophy So when they hear stuff like this where there is a kernel of truth, right? It helps them by further into the part that's not true a great part that is this evil racist bullshit Now, so that's bad. Here's my here's my

Kind of question though. Okay. Do you think we could ever co-opt that the protocols? No, so so their anti-semitism is still Targeted towards though that idea of the bankers who run the world Well, yeah now that's a big part of it. It is a big part of it. There's more now There's absolutely more the whole fake media thing is a big part of it too and but if we could if we could like just Deep earth crystallize that into that idea I I think If we if we really did it smart

I don't like where you're going then we could on one particular situation Utilize them as a kind of enemy of my enemy is my friend situation No, I think that could be like unite with the conservative idiots. No, that'd be like funding a kata man It's just it wouldn't work. That's not wrong. It's I know I know that problem with the poor alliance I could never align with alex for any common cause that we have we would always be in disagreement Yeah, but you know, there's fundamentally disagree. I I agree with you But there is also that part of me that says we don't make peace with our friends We make peace with our enemies, right and this is one situation where

God because because the conservative anger is towards like the tea party came out of the bailouts And and barack obama being black, right? Well, yeah, but but you but absolutely. Yeah, absolutely But they're there again their cover for it was we're mad about the bailout. We're not mad about obama, right? Uh, no, of course, they were mad about a black president. Yeah Is there like I just know there's not this hope. I just have this hope You know why there's not you know why there's not it's the exact same thing that Agreement about the bailouts. Hmm like that agreement that we might have Can't actually be in agreement because the reason that you have it is different than the reason than they have it

the the reasoning and What got you to the point that you're at doesn't exist in the same cosmology is How they got to where they're at right and because of that even if you seem to on the surface agree about an issue You don't agree about that issue. You absolutely don't right even if it is I'm against the war in Iraq You're against the war in Iraq taking it back a few years. Yeah our reasons for it might be different And if my reason is I'm against this war. It's based on false pretenses We have no reason to be there blah blah blah right and someone else's reason is

I'm against the war in Iraq because Uh, Saddam Hussein is really a lizard person who's under the the sway of Jewish Jewish forces and he's a patsy for blah blah blah right. We don't really agree right now granted We both don't want tons of people to die and that's good, but we can't really Work together. I I think I think your your analogy of us propping up al-qaeda is probably the best one All right, thank you because the the The question there would be Could we do it though

like We don't agree on why but Say we actually can agree that we need to break up the banks sure now I'd sooner side with bernie on that than alexa jones. No, that's not what i'm saying I'm saying that i'm i'm on the bernie wing by I don't know if you guys have ever listened to me talk But my my progressive politics borders on the the ira more than anything else

You're you're i'm way past bernie bernie's trying to catch up. Yeah exactly, but like It is it is that al-qaeda where I would love to be able to use that Anger towards the banks even though the deep-seated heart of it is anti-semitism Yeah, could I use that anger and co-opt it to actually break up the banks? My answer is no it wouldn't work You'd end up destroying yourself in the process Yeah, you're you're and then all of your principles go away in the same way you're probably not wrong You're probably not wrong and it bums me out, but god there is that part of me that still That still thinks strategically that could actually cause that change

I say sleep on it and uh, you'll realize in the morning you're it's impossible. I know But so we have one more clip and this one lionel gives us a very nice visual and that is alex jones being dead at some point In the future, but he does it unfortunately in the context of really just kissing alex's ass Real hard and I actually think that this is a really dangerous line of thinking but uh, I don't know away we go I'm gonna then as everybody is being distracted by the three-card montee of the economic Down turn while we're looking this way I'm gonna little by little take everything from this country and then one day Before you know what it's gonna be

It'll start maybe with a rumbling It'll start and we'll start to see the initial threads the initial tremors of a financial collapse and the very people who run the world are So thrilled because they crave and they thrive on disorder and disaster That's why when there's racial disharmony when there's crime When there's people in the streets when we turn to the government in the hegellion dialectic this classic You you don't understand the hegellion dialectic

More more power more authority. Yeah Then one day it's over and your Maybe tombstone your words your final valedict reality sad to say will be I told you so You thought I was just somebody who was conspiracy theorist It's gonna be too late. You thought I was doing this just for some kind of an act You didn't realize that what I was saying and what the world was saying Was there the whole time and you didn't listen to me and I told you and I tried to make it as simple

as possible and I brought in guests to try to explain it in different ways a max kaiser a salinity of a paul k robert Ride so hard Yeah, he tried so hard. No, he didn't really god damn it. I was so close. No, I was so close Uh, I mean look, I I hate that mentality of like one you're dead everyone will realize You know the shit has gone down and we should have listened to you right that like premature profit status Kind of shit is really fucking dangerous because you're just you're depending on Like an outcome and a status quo that doesn't exist and probably never will exist

In order to justify whatever you're saying in the present. Yeah, and it's I mean, it's a classic logical fallacy and it's just Reinforcing alex's need to sell iodine and shit and it it helps him And actually immediately after that clip alex is like wow lionel. This is the best interview we've ever had Like of course, he just kissed your ass right like of course So let's look at this. We took a time traveling trip here. Yes back to 2015 Right the things that were mostly talked about were globalists. Uh going to destroy us. They haven't yet Uh lionel accidentally spills Trump's game plan. Uh, it was a little prophetic. He's a little prophetic

Yeah, uh, but he did not realize that was going to be uh His belief system that was going to bring that about but then the other three major things that were discussed were American flag being banned, which is fake news and also hasn't happened No, two years later hasn't happened and even they're even they're outside marked ice interview is basically It's not going to happen. Yeah. Yeah grease's economy. Uh is doing better It's the they're not all the way back, but they're still getting fucked. They're still getting fucked in the face But they're in recovery

That's it's it's there's there are good signs and the economy has been improving Yes So, I mean it's not tentatively right, but you understand that like this whole argument that they're making of like it's part of a Preplanned down slide blah blah blah. It's a Celtic. It's a oh well. Absolutely, but I never yeah I'm just trying to say that everything that they talked about in this is bunk Everything is bogus the kernels of truth are there in terms of like yeah, these you know Banks are shitty. Yeah that sort of stuff. Yes. Yeah, absolutely But all of the other stuff is absolutely not true these planned collapse of grease has not happened and it's on the upswing

It's back. It's coming back. It'll take a while, but it's coming back right And if they would get uh the imf to quit enforcing the austerity measures, maybe it would come back a little bit faster possibly Yeah, uh Beyond that there was that uh family who had their kid taken away from playing basketball They got the kid back. Maybe they were and also maybe they were being neglectful But maybe that also wasn't necessarily a nosy neighbor. No, it wasn't nosy neighbor. No, that's what i'm saying Oh, yeah, yeah, it wasn't it wasn't a globalist. It wasn't a situation where somebody saw a dog in a hot car

And broke it out. Yeah, uh because that was a recipe for the dog dying Yeah, it was a situation where there was a crack in the window and you're like Maybe that's not a big enough crack. Yeah, that kind of it. Yeah. Yeah, possibly. Yeah, I mean I didn't get in my business. That was a great metaphor. Yeah, it was good. It was like a hundred black women Be thrown into a hot dog car. So if you have a hot dog car and someone throws black widows into it Uh, greece will implode. That's that's a true fact. Uh, I think we've already proved that one this kind of like it's unfortunate He didn't talk at all like throughout the episode about uh gay marriage, which was the main event

Legalized by the supreme court, uh nationwide I think I think the one thing that I take away from this time travel episode Is before he hitched himself to the trump train He didn't have to do as much mental gymnastics and he didn't have to make up as much I think that's true. So while he like before that Without supporting anybody because he's not coming out and supporting a person saying dumb ass shit He's just anti globalist. Exactly. He's just in a nebulous place where he can pick and choose whatever facts he wants to spiral out of Yeah, and he's attacking a group that doesn't really exist

Exactly make up whatever he wants and no one can ever prove him wrong Right, but now with with his trump fixation and connection He doesn't have a choice but to make things up whole cloth because trump frankly Disagrees with him on everything. Well, I would say this here's how I would describe it And I I think that this might bear uh true throughout our future time travel episodes Which if you donate ten dollars or more a month will Do a date for you perfect. That was a perfect transition my friend. But what I would I will say is I think uh that before

Uh, he hitched his wagon to trump. Uh, there were bad days when he is like he is now Yeah, that's there were bad days when he would freak out and he would just be yelling about shit Right, but now there are no more good days. No, he is all bad days now and it is just Oh, we're spoiled by current alex quite frankly because this is mostly low register alex. Yeah, this isn't like It's still it's still wackadoo. It's crazy, but it's like al Pacino. You know, it is like the you want him screaming Right, it's like that. You don't want him just being like crazy. All right You know, you don't want that version and that's kind of what a lot of this Yeah, you don't want good actor al Pacino. You don't want heat al Pacino

You want scent of a woman help devils advocate? Absolutely. Oh, fuck. Yes devils advocate al Pacino, but uh, so anyway, thank you yon for donating We really appreciate it. Thank you very much. Yon. I'm gonna do something crazy. Uh, I've never done this before Uh, I am going to plug a show Now the fact I almost cough you You spit it off Uh, now This fact that I've never done this before may be why I am not a very successful comedian

And hopefully this will be so uncomfortable. You'll never do it. Oh, it's brutal Uh, no the only reason I'm plugging the globalists are going to come find you at the show, you know That's probably going to take you out. It's about time. Yeah. Um, no the only reason I'm plugging it It's at the whip theater. Um, it's whip theater.com. It's this saturday Or saturday may this is why I'm bad at this terrible. Oh brutal. Um Yeah, fuck it. I don't care what day. Wow. I don't care what fucking day Maybe it's the sixth. Maybe it's the seventh not important. Holy shit. It's saturday Uh, what day is today today's tuesday? Yeah, the second. So it's the seventh. Okay. Um, it's at the whip theater

It's 10 o'clock. The only reason I'm plugging it is because timmy, uh Whistle owns runs and does everything for this theater. It's cool, dude And I just want him to be as successful as possible. I will be there one of my old podcasting co-hosts Exactly. Yeah, I will be doing a actual stand-up And I'll talk for a while So if you want if you want to find out what I'm not what I'm like when I'm not screaming into a microphone and instead Screaming into a different microphone. See if you can give me a guess that's why I can talk about globalists. Yeah, actually Yeah, if you want to if you want to come out and meet the way I can't actually because I'm I will be uh,

You're gonna be doing that. Uh, oh, okay. Well, then yeah, if you can come out, we'll do that Uh, and then you can meet the both of us. We'll see. Yeah But who gives a shit actually, you know, what's gonna wind up happening We're gonna edit this entire plug out because it has taken eight and a half hours. I won't Yeah, but just at knowledge fight.com. You can we're at knowledge underscore fight on twitter That's correct. And you can find us on itunes. You can find us everywhere That's not good. Nope You can email us if you like at uh knowledge fight at gmail.com and if you'd like to become a policy wonk

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