Knowledge Fight - #361: April 19, 2013

Episode Date: October 28, 2019

Today, Dan and Jordan return to their examination of the past, and see how Alex Jones covered the unfolding events after the bombing at the Boston Marathon. In this installment, the city of Boston is under a shelter-in-place request as the surviving bomber is on the loose, which seems like it should be right in Alex's wheelhouse. Perhaps too in his wheelhouse.

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We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones Indeed we are Dan Jordan Dan Jordan Dan Jordan Uh, let me ask you a quick question

Love it Do you have a favorite Gospel song? Gospel song? Gospel Like, do you remember, did you go to a church with like Awkward Christian soldiers No, not a hymn Marching

Not a hymn, no, not a that noise Okay Like, uh, did you ever go to a church with a full on God? Gospel choir God he reigns Is that one a Gospel song? From heaven above with with Is that just a shitty song though?

Yeah, that's the one that sticks out in my head Yeah Like, we sang that every single week Oh, really? Like, sometimes there would be alternations No Of like the hymns that we sang But that one was like every

That was a mainstay at Woodcrest Chapel in Columbia, Missouri Right, right, right That one was big I don't know man I don't, I don't know about Gospel songs but like When you bring that up it makes me think of like the Christian music that I used to listen to Did you used to listen to like full on Christian?

Oh, like, like what? Like DC Talk Oh, DC Talk was huge But I didn't like them that much Yeah I was much more into the Christian ska So like the Five Iron Frenzy Okay

Was pretty big, the O.C. Supertones Oh, did not know that they were Christian Insiders with a Z Insiders Yeah, they were a little bit more like They had a little bit of a little bit more swing to them But there was a little bit of a swing Slash a ska thing to the insiders

I gotcha, I gotcha But yeah, it was big into them I went and saw Five Iron Frenzy and Supertones Together went to a big concert Yeah It was pretty lame Yeah, well, yeah My first two concerts

Yeah Spoiler alert, my first two concerts that I went to live Five Iron Frenzy and the O.C. Supertones Two Christian ska bands Next one, Wu-Tang Clan Little bit of time in between those That's a little bit of wide breadth of Yeah

I like a man with a large number of experiences Sure I went back How about like Switchfoot? Did you ever listen to that? I don't think so Probably did Or is that Lightfoot or not Gordon Lightfoot?

Switchfoot sounds right now You had the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald Yeah, yeah, yeah No, I don't think I listened to too much of the rock The Christian rock stuff Although I undoubtedly did Like I'm sure I did, but it just doesn't stick out in my memory Yeah

It was like really weird niche Christian music ones The things that like really stick out I was actually into the Christian ska And I've gone back and listened to some of it And some of it holds up Still banks? Some of it I don't know if it banks

But some of it is still pretty good It's listenable At least Okay I know everyone out there is rolling the damn eyes at me But I think some of it is still Like there's a couple of Five Iron Frenzy songs I think hold up even if you like

That you can listen to them almost outside of being religious Right Well, here's the luxury of ska Is that people are going to roll their eyes at you If you even say ska is listenable So you don't even need to worry about the Christian part That is a fair point Yeah

The other ones that stick out to me are There was a Christian reggae group No, that's it That's against the law Called Christafari That's against the law There is a law against that Christafari

Terrible Terrible Terrible stuff There was the other There was a rapper named T-Bone Okay That I remember Okay

Oh God Bad times He'll bite into the devil like a T-Bone It was bad times Oh man Listen to a lot of that So no, I don't remember any particular gospel songs Right

A lot Ooh A lot of Christian music I used to listen to Christian music for white people is rough Yeah Except for the ska Except for the ska Anyway, I know a lot about Christian ska

And Alex Jones And I don't know anything about either And that's what our show is about today I'm going to tell you I'm going to go track by track Through my evil plan to save the world The O.C. Super Now those five iron frenzy album

God damn Anyway Jordan, today we are back in the past Yes In 2013, continuing our investigation of Alex Jones' behavior After the tragedy at Sandy Hook And in particular, we are now locked in the middle of the events Of the unfolding of the aftermath of the

I'm going to try and stretch this out Yeah, I can see that The Boston bombing We're in the aftermath of the Boston bombing Today we're going over April 19th, 2013 All right Which is the day that everything happens Uh-huh

Everybody figures it out They catch the guys They do the whole Or no, this is the manhunt As we discussed on our last episode Which is April 18th That was the day that the FBI released the images Of the suspects

We now know as Tamerlin and Johar Zarnev But So that was on the 18th And then overnight Shit just blows up And then the 19th is completely It's absolute chaos Not absolute chaos really

But it's when the city is Everyone has had There's a shelter-in-place request People are staying indoors There's the manhunt going on So that's the day that we're covering today I think this is one of the weirder episodes of Alex's show That I've heard in a very long time

I mean, that was one of the weirder days So, you know, that's expected But here's what I want to say Weird can mean a lot of different things This is an unexpected episode Okay, all right Alex never quite gives you exactly What you think you're going to find

And we will see So I'm assuming an apology and no No, no, no, no, no, no, that's not in there That's outside the realm of possibility Okay, I'm sorry But we'll get into this here in a moment But before we do, Jordan, we've got to take a moment To say thank you to some people who have signed up

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Sure Is anything unprecedented today? Ladies and gentlemen, what we are seeing right now is just unprecedented here in the United States Again, my friends, it is Friday, April 19th So unprecedented Unprecedented in the United States? The United States that had 9-11? Everything is unprecedented

The United States that is very unprecedented in this exact circumstance This is an interesting thing too Because even if he's talking about the city of Boston being on lockdown That's not even unprecedented No, that's not unprecedented Like months prior, Governor Deval Patrick called for everyone to stay inside because of a winter storm It said that people who were caught driving on the streets could be arrested or fined So like this is not even...

No I didn't hear Alex talk about that Not even in a different year Yeah So nothing's unprecedented Everything is quite unprecedented Very much so So on our last episode covering this coverage that Alex has of the Boston bombing

We heard him utterly convinced that the pictures he'd found on 4chan had cracked this case wide open And that the media and the globalists were in a mad scramble to keep their false flag operation together His certainty was naturally based on nothing other than his own imagination But the effect was clear He was blowing up in popularity and he loved it His ratings were through the roof, traffic was coming into the website like crazy He'd send his reporter Dan Badandi out to disrupt Boston officials press conferences And he was successfully able to yell about false flags and say infowars.com

At multiple internationally televised events Including the one on the 18th Where the FBI released the photographs of the two suspects Who were still at that point unidentified While Badandi's yelling had the effect that it was going for Which was driving tons of traffic to Alex's site That press conference had another important effect that was ultimately far more relevant to the real world April 18th was the day that everything broke wide open

For days since the bombing The perpetrators had every reason to think that they'd gotten away with the attack They'd return to their normal lives And if I were them and I'd just seen the internet I'd probably think I was in the clear too That changed at 5.20 p.m. on the 18th When the FBI released their photos The illusion of safety was gone

And they knew it was only a matter of time before someone called the tip line And said they recognized them And then the jig was up And thus began 24 hours of complete chaos At 10.31 p.m. MIT police officer Sean Collier is murdered sitting in his car Which investigators determined was an attempt on these guys to get another gun This murder happened very close to an armed robbery that happened at a convenience store So early reports got the two of them mixed up and people thought they were connected

But they weren't That was another thing that is sort of part of the conspiracy canon But Alex doesn't even actually Such a ridiculous coincidence too Yeah But it kind of makes sense I mean you're in a metropolitan area There is going to be another unrelated crime

No, of course But it's like there's, you know Have you ever picked up the phone and somebody was on the other line? It's so weird and disconcerting But there's a billion people making a phone call at any given point in time Somebody has to do it Yeah, yeah, for sure It's possible and it happens

You ascribe significance to it where there may not be a significance Yeah, it's just weird Yeah Though they didn't steal anything from that convenience store The bombers did hijack a guy's SUV less than an hour later at 11.20 p.m. Holding the driver hostage with them They would go to a gas station where the younger bomber is caught on security cameras shopping for a bunch of snacks He would later tell detectives that their plan was to drive to New York and set off another bomb there

This plan would be derailed by the SUV's owner escaping the car and running to a different nearby convenience store where he would call the police You can easily find security camera footage of the driver running into that store terrified Hiding behind the counter and calling the police Telling them that he'd been carjacked by men claiming to be the bombers And that his car had a GPS system that they could track You can also easily find footage from the same time of the older bomber coming into the gas station to tell the younger brother That the driver had escaped and it was time to go The younger guy drops all his snacks and they run out back to the car to leave

Later in this episode, Alex and a caller will discuss how the bombers were in a Mercedes And how that's really suspicious Like they're trying to speculate about how did they get this money Yeah, yeah, yeah They were driving a Mercedes because they stole it They stole it from this guy It was this SUV that they stole So what's the one lesson we can learn from the Boston bombing?

It's steal an older car Sure I think that might be I don't know if that's the lesson Are you sure? I'm pretty sure Okay The police track that SUV to an address in Watertown and units are dispatched

The first responding officer spots the vehicle but is told not to engage until his supervisor arrives He follows the SUV then around 1241 AM The driver of the SUV gets out, approaches his car and starts shooting The shootout lasts approximately eight minutes with both sides exchanging gunfire and one of the bombers throwing IEDs at the police Which Alex will later misidentify as grenades They were throwing grenades Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah He does that in order to say like, how would they get their hands on grenades?

Those are super hard to get Right They didn't They made IEDs Yeah Which is well within the range of their proven capabilities Yeah, yeah, yeah It's like their thing

Yeah Honestly At 1249 AM, the older brother is tackled by police after he appears to have run out of bullets The officer is attempted to get him subdued and in custody But while they were getting him handcuffed, the other bomber drives right at them The officers managed to jump out of the way, but the older bomber is run over as his partner escapes So just before 1 AM, the shootout in Watertown had come to an end The older bomber is taken to the hospital where he's pronounced dead

They run his fingerprints and learn that his name is Tamerlin Sarnev And with his information, they're able to identify his partner, his younger brother, Johar Neutralizing one suspect is probably a good thing, all things considered But it would be hard to consider this night's events a good result One officer had been severely injured and another had sustained injuries that would end up killing him approximately a year later Though one suspect was down, police were unsuccessful in giving chase to Johar Who disappeared into the night on foot after abandoning his vehicle about half a mile from the site of the shootout Police went to work immediately, attempting to establish a perimeter

All points bulletins were sent out and bomb squads were called in to neutralize the unexploded IEDs that the brothers had left at the scene in Watertown News of the flare-up broke real quick And almost immediately, the Watertown Police Department is inundated with tons of reports of suspicious individuals All of whom they look into and find unrelated to the search for Johar In this 24-hour span, the department receives over 500 calls to 911 As opposed to their normal daily average of 30 These people were dealing with an overwhelming situation where a community that had been on edge for days was now looking to them to protect them from a rogue individual on the loose And it's easy to look at the situation and say that this was just one young man on the loose

What's the need for such a panic? Why do you need such a massive police response as we're going to end up seeing? And I can see why someone would have that knee-jerk reaction, but the reality is not so simple At the time, it was very unclear if this was just one kid on his own that they were after For one thing, this was a kid who had bombed the Boston Marathon Who had been involved in the murder of a police officer and when confronted by additional cops, he responded by throwing IEDs at them This is a person who- And he killed his brother

Well, yeah, maybe not intentionally Not intentionally, but he did, he just did Which is like a, you know From my understanding, it's kind of up in the air about whether or not he would have died anyway He'd been, like, Chamberlain had been shot a bunch of times For sure Yeah, but whatever the case, like, you don't know what this dude is capable of Exactly

It could be one guy on the loose, but that guy could have a cache of bombs And every minute that he's on the loose, that could be the minute that a hospital or a tea station is blown up Yeah, or he could be, you know, if you see a big thing like the Boston bombing There's no way that you're going to think, oh, it's just two lone people There has to be some sort of connection to some sort of network How did they get all this information? All that shit, you can't rule that out until you have any information on it No, and yeah, it was a bit up in the air at that point

Yeah, exactly And you can't let him, if he has accomplices, you cannot allow him to regroup Absolutely not You can't let this person get back to whatever cell for lack of a better term Yeah, yeah, if there was one, which we know now there wasn't, but that's not the point You didn't know that that The risk that could come from that is intense And if you're able to catch the person before they're able to regroup

There's a possibility of disrupting the larger cell if there is one Yeah There's a lot of reasons why you would need to treat this as if it's a possible worst-case scenario Absolutely Because the worst-case scenario is terrible Yeah So at 1.57 a.m., the Watertown PD sends out an emergency message to the residents of the town Asking them to stay inside their homes and report anything that might be helpful in their manhunt

This obviously is a very scary development, but honestly, given the circumstances, I'm not sure there was a good option And an important distinction needs to be made At this point, the message to stay indoors was not a mandatory order And it was very localized to the area directly surrounding the morning's shootout People could go outside if they wanted to, but they also ran a very high likelihood of a neighbor Seeing them and, like, they're wandering around at 2 a.m. What are they doing out there? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

That's suspicious to a neighbor 9-1-1, 500, ah This happened to at least one person mentioned in the police report who was questioned and released So it's not like the police had a standing order that you'd be shot if you went outside Which is kind of what Alex would like you to think Right, right, right They set up turrets around every checkpoint and their sniper people walking down the street Nonsense

Yeah By 2.30 a.m., a unified command center is set up outside Arsenal Mall, an outlet shopping center in Watertown The center serves as a hub for coordination between Watertown PD, neighboring area police departments Who have come in to help as well as the FBI and the Massachusetts Emergency Management Agency Over a thousand individual law enforcement officers are on hand to deal with the crisis And by the end of the day, more than 2,500 officers will have been involved in some capacity in the situation At 4.15 a.m., the Massachusetts Emergency Management Agency and Governor Deval Patrick Authorize the Massachusetts National Guard to deploy armed military police into Watertown

This is another important distinction here because the authorization didn't come from FEMA or the federal government This was a state-level decision which really punches holes in any kind of states' rights, anti-government angle to this response Because that's well within the governor's mandate They can call out National Guard for emergency situations Right, if this had happened in Texas, the Texas governor could also have not called in the National Guard It is up to them More likely would not have Exactly

It would have been out there with a fucking group of vigilantes Right, the discussion of whether or not it's the right decision or the most efficient decision is not really my interest The point is it was a state decision which all the arguments about this being the federal government coming in, it's absolutely not true As the morning comes, 120 military police officers are sent out to assist local authorities in house-to-house searches Which have been authorized again by the proper channels At 5.15 a.m. the governor of Massachusetts and the mayor of Boston have a conference call with the Unified Command Center And decide they need to suspend mass transit services temporarily and put out a shelter-in-place request Effectively putting the area into lockdown

This is the closest thing to martial law as we've seen in the United States for a long time And it would be easy to see this as the fulfillment of Alex's prophecies, you know? Yeah But it wasn't No This is a very severe but probably necessary law enforcement action Because what if Joe Hart had been part of a larger cell? Or what if he wasn't but him being on the loose led to him bombing a train the next morning?

Yeah The worst case scenario of not doing whatever needed to be done to catch him that night would be an unacceptable risk to take And it would have been negligent of the police to not do this how they did Right Or at least that's my position on it And it seems like the residents of Boston agree WBUR did a survey a year later in April 2014 and found that 83% of respondents Believed that the police putting out a shelter-in-place request was the right decision

With like that support is crazy Yeah, yeah, that's ridiculous In the United States, you would have expected like 50% to be like Why didn't we all get bombed? Right Fine, whatever And that number crossed party lines Yeah, exactly

Which is crazy interesting Right So it seems like the people who are most affected by this agree that it was like the police acted appropriately Yeah, I can see an argument against it I can I can understand that conversation but it can only be had in hindsight And so we can apply some of those lessons to maybe future circumstances But I think no one involved acted in bad faith in any way No

Which is why probably so many people agree that it was a good idea because everybody was really trying to do good Yeah And there were a lot of rare Right And if you especially from the cops If you read the after action report that the authorities all collaborated on and put out There is a lot of very valid criticism particularly about weapon discipline Like they particularly in the case of the Watertown shootout when they were trying to stop

Johar's car leaving Yeah Like trying to shoot out the wheels or whatever They ended up creating a lot of like crossfire possibilities There there are circumstances like that that the police definitely didn't operate how they should have Yeah But at the same time they weren't doing it because they were trying to fuck away Yeah, yeah, exactly

No It's more it's more an instance of like we need better training Yes So they they know not to create possible risk situations Right I want them to learn from this I don't want to get into this like you guys are evil for this specific circumstance There are so many other ones

Yeah, you know So like I mentioned 9-1-1 operators got a ton of tips during this time And one of the more relevant ones had to do with a suspicious person carrying a package who got into a taxi The police end up finding out that this taxi driver is on the terrorist watchlist and this immediately becomes a huge deal The taxi was en route to the south station which is a hub for both the mass Massachusetts mass transit and Amtrak So taxi services suspended in the city by 9am Right It's suspended earlier but by 9am it's determined that the taxi driver in question they'd misspelled his name

And it wasn't the person on the terrorist watchlist Alright, I hate everyone Of course This will not be the only time in this story that appropriate data entry skills would have saved people a lot of time Which leads me to my next point which is that data entry workers need to be respected and paid better I agree and also should probably have more cultural training about how to spell different names Perhaps Yeah

The day goes on and the police keep coming up empty And that's where things stand as Alex gets on air The previous night had been a completely chaotic nightmare With a murder of a police officer, a shootout in a residential neighborhood And the request for a metropolitan area to stay indoors while police and National Guard carry out their search It's almost like a ball being set up on a tee for Alex He spent his entire career talking about how fake terrorist attacks are being used to bring in martial law And now he's determined that a terrorist attack was a false flag

And the response has been to enact something that he would call martial law Though it's not even close to the actual thing if you get down to all the details Of course If there ever was a day when it felt like Alex would be going buck wild, it should be this He's literally on air while the manhunt is going on While Boston is in his shelter in place request So that's easy Alright, so the way you set that up, I assume we're going to get not that and some weird ass shit instead

I don't know, I guess we'll find out You're so clever Here's Alex getting into some of the stories I just talked to our reporter, Dan Badandi That is at Lexington Green, we're Ove Keepers We're trying to get through to Stuart Rhodes right now We're Ove Keepers, go ahead and get Dan Badandi on if we can't get ahold of Stuart Rhodes Where they're being told the police have revoked the permit

For them to have an oath taking ceremony to defend the Bill of Rights and Constitution Because that is the enemy now that the occupiers hate And of course they revoked their permit to demonstrate But the anti-gun group that got their permit revoked They are allowed to take Lexington Green and make all sorts of red coat, bloombergian announcements That's happening while Boston and surrounding cities in Massachusetts into Connecticut have martial law declared So he's bringing up the martial law, so that's good Although he's not really getting into it so much

It's kind of just window dressing to talk about the oath keepers not being able to have their rally Yeah, I'm fine with that And he's talking about this, they don't have a permit but these counter protesters are fine And by definition counter protesters don't need permits That's part of the whole right of free assembly thing that's in the Constitution, Alex loves so much I don't know if they like that Constitution anymore When a group plans to use public space to hold a rally or a protest They do need to apply for a permit because they're the ones who wish to use the public space for their own purposes

If the counter demonstrators wanted to hold a competing rally of their own in a park near Lexington Green for example Then they would need a permit for that This was the case with the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville Where counter groups planned to hold a rally for quote racial justice harmony in the end of white supremacy At Justice and McGuffey parks which are near the park where the right wing groups planned their rally And they needed a permit which they had Sure This is just simple civics

The people counter demonstrating the oath keepers don't need permits because their event is really just a natural extension of the oath keepers event Not an event in its own right I just heard a million right wing people scream in terror whenever you said this is simple civics They don't like it. It's hard to understand Yeah, this is not an example of favoritism or anything like that It's just how permitting works Right, right, right So, it's nonsense, but it seems to be one of the things Alex is mostly focused on

Also, I'm not sure if Alex has ever consulted a map before But Boston is not close to Connecticut I just heard a million conservatives scream out when you said map Uh-huh Boston is a coastal city on the Atlantic And if you were to say which other state is closest to it, you'd probably go with New Hampshire or Rhode Island Connecticut is really close to Springfield, Massachusetts But for Alex to claim that this martial law is extending into Connecticut, he's really just saying something absurd

He might as well just say that all of New England is under lockdown, which I imagine he would love to try and imply Nobody can lockdown Maine and so they will never be locked out So you can't say all of New England You can get all of it, but... But Maine Yeah The reason that Alex thinks this extends to Connecticut is because he doesn't understand, nor does he care to understand the things that he reads At 7.15 a.m., the police received that tip about the person with the suspicious package and the taxi

You know that one? Yeah, I imagine With spelling They were going to South Station, which includes, like I said, the mass transit and Amtrak service Right, if you allowed a bomb to get there you're essentially ending fucking transportation And costing billions upon billions of dollars Right, and part of their investigation was that they had a train that they believed that this person got onto on the South Station Right

So they tracked that train to Norwalk, Connecticut, which was the next stop that they were able to stop the train at and search it So they stopped this train in Norwalk and the Metro Police and Norwalk Police Department searched it There's no extension of checkpoints or martial law to Connecticut It was just this stop where the police were able to intercept the train that they had a tip that the person might have been on It was all resolved by 9 a.m. and Alex has no reason to take that kernel of information and use it to pretend that this shelter-in-place request The police put out extended past the Boston suburbs It's a real unfortunate situation because they really had an opportunity to have a fight on top of a moving train And it just turned out it wasn't the guy

I like that you think that's an opportunity You never get to have a fight on a train I don't know Not outside of movies. Do you ever get a good fight on a moving train? Yeah, there's a reason why Yeah, probably So Alex has been saying that this is a false flag pretty consistently throughout all of his coverage Sure

He's sort of waffling a tiny bit Right But also in a way that's still demonstrating that he thinks it's certainly a false flag Sure It's weird Okay There's a hedging going on But it's almost a meaningless hedging

Right And I mean there is a one percent chance, maybe a three percent chance Maybe even a five percent chance that there are real organic Muslim terrorists Who kind of pick up on the hype of all of this war on terror And go out and basically copycat So that is a factor This could be a real terror attack, as I've said from day one It's a very low probability

But then why do you have the big drill with guys with backpacks everywhere Right around where it happened, staring And then you had another patsy, they said they arrested and it was going to be the redneck And then they had to abandon that and go with plan B And you've got meeting with the Saudi ambassador, the foreign minister And oh, I thought it was the right wingers, you know, the media said So he's saying there's a one to three to five percent chance that this was real Which is a strange swing

But all the stuff that he's saying that, but then why blank Right Is all just in his head Imaginary stuff Yeah, yeah So like all of the reasons that you have for that 95 percent certainty that it's a false Right Is just imagined

Yeah, yeah Look, it's a one percent, maybe five percent chance, but why are all the bees still inside my eyes then, huh? Uh-huh So it's weird It's weird to hear this sort of, like why would he unprompted add a greater possibility that it's a real event I don't know Like it just got five times more likely that it's a real event Five hundred percent

In one second Yeah That's fast It's very strange Yeah I don't understand why, I mean it's still meaningless, he's still saying it's a false flag, but it's very weird Functionally does he see a difference between there being a one percent and a five percent chance? No

Of course not No Anyway, he gets on to talking about how he's been right this whole time covering this event And then he goes on to overdrive on air to break down what I thought was going to end up happening at the Boston Marathon You'll find that as usual we were on target with the spectrum of analysis Because I've seen this over and over again I said if there was a drill and if there's a bunch of federal agents around where the bombing happens He goes on from there and just trails off

Right He goes on to another thought We know because we listened to the episode from that Monday that Alex was not right on target when he was in overdrive It was mostly him just yelling with Richard Belzer about how he thinks this was a false flag and trying to find any little piece of information to justify that belief One of his interns told him it was Patriots Day so he ran with that Rob Dues and his brother left the marathon from dehydration so Alex ran with and embellished that He was not right on target, he was constructing a narrative and he was doing it very sloppily In that clip we just heard Alex says quote, if there was a drill, if there were military all around

And then he trails off and goes off to another topic without laying out what the then part is of this if then statement But we know what it is, it's implied Then it's a false flag Exactly And every single person listening to Alex's show knows that without Alex saying it It's an axiom of info wars Yeah And this is where deception is kind of built

Because Alex knows that his audience has internalized this if then relationship He knows that a shortcut to proving that something was a false flag, proving in heavy quotes All he has to do is just create the perception there was a drill going on at the same time Understanding this dynamic goes a long way toward understanding why Alex is so prone to accept complete bullshit When it helps him get where he needs to go He has absolutely no ability to prove that the bombing was a false flag It's just not possible But his audience has accepted the implied relationship between a drill and a false flag

So all he has to do is prove that there was a drill Which I would argue he still has failed to do This kind of puts into context why he accepts all this completely flimsy evidence of a drill And then extrapolates that stuff out far past what's reasonable to He's done this with a school safety drill in a completely different city to assert that Sandy Hook was a false flag He's done this with a corporate training lecture He's pretending it was a drill to assert that the 7-7 bombing in London was a false flag He does this all the time because he knows that the appearance of a drill is enough to convince most of his audience

It's a shortcut, that's all this is Yeah, I'm guessing that after his long career in the TV industry Bells is a little bit annoyed that he didn't get a story credit on the whole false flag theory there I'm telling you, he collaborated man, he got some good ideas in there I don't know, I think he was more the guy in the writer's room who was like, that's good You still get the story credit? Fine, he gets a with assistance executive producer credit at best I'll take it

So Alex is, you know, he's convinced still no matter what that they were planning on blaming right wingers Which he expresses in this next clip Ladies and gentlemen, they were gonna go with the right wing tea party Axl Rod on Tuesday night said it's gonna be right wing, it's lone wolf, it's one guy That's on record, we're gonna play those clips later, in case you missed them Then they had all the Democratic operatives on Wednesday come out on MSNBC, CNN, you name it And they said, ladies and gentlemen, it is the right wingers We're not liberty to say exactly yet, but yes, it's a right wing, probably a soldier

I watched CNN and MSNBC last night, before I went on air live on the nightly news at 7 And I saw CNN with three different hosts and guests all say it's gonna be a veteran, it's gonna be a Navy SEAL Now do you understand that? Where'd you hear Navy SEAL first? You heard it here And nowhere You heard it here You heard it here Nowhere else You heard it here

Cause it's not real Yeah, Alex doesn't play any of these clips He doesn't? But they would all prove what he was saying Yeah, he doesn't I'm not saying that people didn't speculate stuff on TV news programs Sure You know, the filling the 24 hour cycle is tough and a lot of people say a lot of

Dumb shit Right So someone On the reg if you will Someone on MSNBC, someone on CNN saying, is it possible that this May have Entirely possible Absolutely

Alex doesn't play any of those clips None So, whatever This is such an example of why there's no point in engaging with this at all Because it's like, oh, they didn't say that it was going to be a right winger Yeah, but they were going to, so they might as well have Fucking fine Right, you know who else said all this stuff? George Norrie

Yeah, exactly When you were on Coast to Coast AM Yeah, fuck off Alex is also pretty worried that Facebook is getting sensorious And it turns out that this is Weirdly prescient This is a consistent concern of his So in 2013, in 2018, 2019, Alex is there just trying to get right-wing people off Facebook

Absolutely And what have you, it's much more specific in 2013 We're being censored all over the place Officially, this is pouring in And we've tried to post our articles on Facebook and they're being blocked People are getting errors posting our stuff to Facebook You cannot publish this link because it contains a dangerous link They're not saying we're dangerous

Users tried to publish our article Navy Seals Spotted at Boston Marathon We're getting all the screenshots of this, wearing suspicious backpacks So the problem about misinformation after the Boston bombing was far from an isolated incident An issue just related to Info Wars And the absence of official solid information, you know, that's kind of what led Alex down the road that he's on That also affected a lot of independent actors with motivations that we can really only guess at Some people were willfully trying to mislead people like Alex, you know, for attention Sure

There were cottage industry conspiracy blogs that were trying to drive traffic who were posting the same kind of stuff But there were also people who were likely just trying to cause chaos Yeah There were people creating fake profiles for the Sarnev brothers on social media Attempting to inject their own details into the conspiracy theories about the attack Because humans are fucked up people This was something that was very much on the rise at the time Tons of fake accounts for Aurora shooter James Holmes and the murdering cop Christopher Dorner had been created

Some probably as jokes, but some probably more malicious in intention NBC News reported that many of these accounts were being used to spread the conspiracy theories themselves about the bombing Yeah, why not Another thing that was happening at the time was that botnets were using fake articles about the bombing to spread spam and malware Hoping to capitalize on the public's hunger for information about what had happened Cisco put out a warning that this was happening and warned that one of the attempts was related to an email that appeared to be from CNN I know you want to make a thought I'm not doing it

I'm smiling so hard You were biting your lip I know, I'm trying not to make it I'm not making it You were about to If I didn't say something No, I was not I was not

You saw me biting my lip Let me see the link Stop it, Matt, you're doing it Despite you So one of the things was a CNN, it looked like a CNN email With the headline, quote, Boston Marathon Explosions, FBI Benefits? Question mark Oh, God

Some apparent censorship of conspiracy content around this time was related to protecting users from these botnets that were trying to hijack their computers In a crisis like this, people who are up to no good go to work The public really wants to know what's going on and when they're not getting that information, they're way more likely to fall for bullshit or fall victim to cyber attacks So you exploit that hunger for information Of course People to click on things they probably wouldn't otherwise I'm not sure exactly what the bigger picture of what Alex is talking about And there were definitely plenty of horrible things that Facebook did nothing to block or censor in the days after the bombing

For instance, there was a 22-year-old Brown University student named Sunil Tripathi who had been missing since March And he's someone who the internet decided to turn into a suspect in the bombing Sunil's family had set up a Facebook page hoping he'd see it and be encouraged that he could come home or reach out In the days after the bombing, that page got bombarded with tons of hateful posts from people who decided that Sunil had been involved in the bombing of the marathon And then on April 23, Sunil's body was found in the Providence River with a subsequent autopsy ruling that the cause of death was suicide I'm not aware of any evidence that the witch hunt was related to his death, and he'd been missing since before the bombing But the witch hunt did traumatize these terrified family who wanted to find their son Facebook did not take down these posts that were harassing his family

Cool And eventually the family just ended up taking down that page themselves I think Alex, you know, he's talking about the backpack thing, these articles about the backpacks But I think he's also referencing this because Facebook had blocked links to an article that he had about the manipulatively edited Family Guy episode Which I think is pretty easy to understand I'm sure that Seth McFarland had made a copyright claim and they were completely distorting his intellectual property in ways that I don't think are covered by fair use You can use copyrighted material in a transformative way, but I'm not sure that you can then use that recreated thing to claim that that distorted material is representative of what the original was Yeah

Look, I think that that's still not allowed Right You can't claim it's the original I think you can just DMCA it if you're an asshole Or I don't think that Seth McFarland would be being an asshole in that circumstance I mean the other direction, like if Alex is an asshole you can still be like DMCA is used to take down shit that is technically fair use all the fucking time Like they err on the side of a giant corporation says no

This wasn't a commentary as much as it was a distortion and a hoax So if that is part of the argument then I mean take that shit down But like he said in that clip he's talking about the backpack stuff and later in the episode he does articulate that a little bit more And it's about these articles where he's saying that these navy seals are at the marathon And again he just decided that these were seals based on looking at some pictures he found on 4chan Yeah I'm not sure what happened with Facebook like that they blocked all the links to this Oh they went evil

But you know what if it did I don't know how widespread the blocking was But if they were blocked I fully support that decision Oh yeah Alex was engaged in targeted harassment of the people in those photos He had literally zero reason to suspect them being involved in this terrorist attack outside of things he'd imagined He was publishing articles speculating that they were there as part of a grand false flag operation The left hundreds injured and three dead I don't necessarily believe that Facebook blocked all the links to his article but if they did I don't care

They should have Yeah this is as real as if he blamed the fucking elves for it And it's as damaging as if he blamed normal people who didn't do it and then told people to harass them So now we're like 15 minutes into his episode here and so far Alex has barely even touched on current events in Boston Yeah he should be doing a victory lap by now Yeah he should be nipsy hustling a victory lap right now Yeah he briefly mentioned that the city is under martial law which it's not And he's not really giving any updates nor does he even seem that interested like this is a lead story

This episode so far has mostly been about him rambling about how he was right about a drill And truth be told he feels more focused on the oath keepers getting to have their rally than he is on the outbreak of literal martial law according to him And that seems weird The behavior you would expect from Alex Jones when the appearance of martial law comes is to get on air and call all patriots to Boston Sure This should be war Yeah He should be talking about how good it is that the oath keepers are in Boston so they can make the first offense to liberate the people of the city from tyranny

Right Alex's entire career has been built about warning that the police state is coming and now here is as close as he's seen in the United States and he seems to want to avoid the story Right That's weird I mean based on what we know now I think he realizes that white people are going to be fine so it's not that big a deal I don't think, I don't know if that's the case No it might be that he realizes that if he were to go in his words full tilt boogie we might actually get a lot of people killed I think that's a possibility

Yeah The options that I see are the first is that he realizes that what's going on is a legitimate police operation it's completely legal and they do need to find this terrorist who's on the loose Yeah He knows that if he does anything that might impede the carrying out of the investigation then God forbid like if this guy blows up another building then Alex is going to have a lot of blood on his hands Oh yeah He does not want to be involved in that And fucking a real good case for obstruction of justice charges I don't know, I don't know if you could do that

We'll see It's so by proxy I don't think that would stick I think it would just be a thing where it's like I am a monster Yeah I don't think we have to worry about him There's a limit There's a limit Yeah You think so?

Okay, alright Maybe, I don't know, I like to think there's a limit You're an optimist Maybe I will give you that Glass quarter full Yeah So the other possibility is what you touched on and that is what I would describe as Alex is scared

This is a point, this is the point he's been yelling about forever because he was betting that it would never come Like he would never have to pay up This is Alex's chickens coming home to roost No And he obviously is bringing in way more money than he was a week ago And if possible, he'd like to keep that going Calling for armed resistance to police officers trying to find the surviving Boston bombing suspect It's probably going to hurt that a little bit

Real cut off your nose despite your face kind of situation there, yeah I suspect but cannot prove that Alex has already gotten everything he needs out of this tragedy He found his narrative that this was a false flag He's gotten an insane amount of internet exposure and he's driven tons of traffic to his sites So while the appearance of police tyranny descending on the city does play into his narratives It's also too much It'd be very difficult for him to engage with the story how he normally would without it being to the point where the line in the sand has been crossed And that's something he just can't afford to do as a business

Yeah Because in his, I mean literally it is the appearance of exactly the sequence of events as well It is literally a crisis They pick, they do this, they do this, there's an increased police presence There's the governor declaring this, the National Guard is coming in That means that the steps for which to a Hegelian dialectic your way into tyranny are all in place So the only logical thing for him to say is let's blow up Boston Right

Alex's like the way his narratives work is that the globalists cannot ever actually start taking people to FEMA camps It has to always be about to happen The globalists have to always be making their move They can't actually be doing the martial law shit that Alex says they plan to do That in between state is where the money is because if the story is that martial law is in place Then all of Alex's rhetoric should tell any listeners paying attention that it's time to start shooting And that cuts into profits Well I think Alex wants to like foster this image but at the same time stay the fuck away from it

Oh yeah absolutely And that's weird Yeah The only explanation rationally to me are those possibilities Because someone who presents themselves like Alex does in every context that I've heard would be screaming about this Oh yeah absolutely The only possibility I see is that he realizes it's too hot in the kitchen Yeah

And his behavior could have a really serious negative effect Now what he thinks the negative effect is that's debatable Yeah But I see him being like this is too hot Oh this is too much if I keep going I'm gonna lose money Yeah boss about all the people that are gonna die No no no I could lose a lot of money if this goes on There's gonna be a war

I know that's why I'd lose all this money Okay you're a bad person We are just moving on Quadrupling quintupling traffic right Is now the time to get kicked off air Because I called for insurrection Is now the time Really we're gonna civil war now huh

Oh god damn it Just my luck Yeah This is a Kathy cartoon where he just goes I do feel that sense here Because he's not talking about what matters Yeah that makes sense So that's weird

But what he wants to do instead is just keep talking about the same shit He's been talking about this whole time Namely that his pictures that he found on 4chan Change the game Sure They've done this over and over again Where they'll have multiple fallbacks So we released these photos when they didn't think anybody noticed them

Right as they're announcing we've got our person CNN's like we're told it's a right wing lone wolf one man We've got the right winger It's gonna come out He's arrested He's at the courthouse Then they panic and go No no forget that

There's no arrest forget it And let's all go to sleep And let's evacuate the courthouse And forget you ever saw that And I said They're going from the right wingers probably To now they're gonna go with a muslim And I said that

Because why do they have all these muslims Clearly crawling around there Obviously part of it With their body language and everything Probably thinking they're patriots You know who've been recruited out of colleges And these guys were clearly recruited out of colleges Now could they be double agents for some muslim group?

Yes they could be real What? I'm saying Obviously No you don't get that one Obviously everyone listening to our show at this point realizes That everything Alex is saying is just based on his fantasies That he's constructed after seeing some pictures he found on 4chan

None of this is real None of it's based on anything other than his feelings However there's one thing here I think that Merritt's pointing out Alex has no idea if any of the people in the pictures he saw Were actually muslims All he knows is that they're non-white people Possibly of Middle Eastern descent The past that he has no reason to believe the people in these images

From 4chan are followers of Islam He sees brown people in the pictures And their skin proves to him what group they're a part of Which to me is a bad sign Yeah I mean it's the one good part of Or one like luxury of othering Is that when the other is so big You can just call the other whatever you want

And it's like whether or not anybody in those pictures Turned out to actually be muslim Is kind of irrelevant to Alex's assumptions Nothing should do with anything Right it's very strange If they aren't now they were So much of his narrative is based on characteristics That he's imagined about people in these pictures

He sees brown people, they must be muslims He sees a white guy, he must be a redneck idiot Who's been brought in to be the patsy He sees guys in uniforms, they must be navy seals Or mercenary groups Not one single thing about these people in these photos Is actually substantiated It's just taken as true because Alex has asserted

These things to be true When we talk about Alex not knowing the difference Between reality and fiction It's usually in the context of him thinking That movies he's seen are real That's definitely the place where the tendency Is most pronounced But it's important to remember that this exists

In other contexts Here he's written a complete fiction About some pictures he saw that he found on 4chan And he experiences that as reality It's almost like an author falling in love With a character in a novel that they're writing He either knows he's doing this And that he's willfully misleading his audience

And accepting his fiction as reality For his own profit Which would make him a psychopath Or he has no idea he's doing that to people Which means he needs serious help Regardless of the explanation Someone should have intervened in Alex's life Long ago

It's real bummer to see these signs These warning signs, so clear And I wasn't paying attention to Alex in 2013 I hope that would have been my response to hearing this I can't imagine someone in his life Not being like this is fucked up Now it's working I can't imagine if you're anything other than

If you're anything other than a very dedicated Active listener Then you could rationalize away all of this shit If you didn't have an active, consistent Point of view regarding everything you said And tracking it over time And he'd just be like coming in and out And he'd say nonsense like a movie

And he'd be like, oh, it's like a movie And then he'd go back to screaming And he'd be like, oh, I get it He's just referencing a movie He's not saying that reality is a movie Like in that movie that John Candy was in I don't think that most people who would have any interest In critically looking at what he's doing

Have the stomach to actually listen to his show Particularly back then So I think that a lot of it flies under the radar Of something or passive or interested And these signs just get missed For sure There is either a willful attempt To get people to accept an alternate reality

Or an inability to know what's real And either option is pretty fucking scary So Alex gets into talking about the situation In Boston a little bit He has some little points that he brings up But again, there's not much going on Talking about the situation of the shelter in place All over Boston, all the way into Connecticut

Aiming guns at people at checkpoints Threatening to kill AP reporters, APs reporting Going in houses, house to house A giant martial law exercise And now there was a shootout They're going to be in the Second Amendment Now, he's leaving Lexington Green The police were going to block them

But, I mean, Larry Pretz and Stuart said You're violating our rights And so they backed off That's the first reference to the shootout From the night before And he's only referencing it vaguely And he's only doing it to try and say Like they're going to take our guns

Which is wild I can find no evidence that an AP reporter Was threatened by the police During the hunt for Johar Sarnev I'm not saying that it definitely didn't happen But I'm saying that I can't find any trace Of this story on the AP's website Nor on Info Wars

Not even in archived versions of the sites from the time I don't know what the reality is here But I have every reason to believe Alex Is just kind of riffing or just embellishing Later, someone attempts to correct Alex That what happened was that the police were Warning reporters who had been out on the night Before at the shootout in Watertown

But there was an active shooting going on And if they weren't careful, they'd get shot This is very different than police threatening To shoot reporters But it definitely sounds like the sort of thing Alex would misreport as police threatening To shoot reporters Right, right

Now, if Trump was talking and he said Hey, you might get shot if you stick around out here Then we're talking about somebody threatening To shoot reporters In this circumstance, if Trump was the police Commissioner or whatever who was on the scene I would still not think it was a threat Because it is a legitimate warning

There's an eight minute live shooting where The guys are throwing fucking IEDs at police Right, I'm just talking about the way the mob people Right, I understand what you mean Hey, you might get shot, hey Hey, you know, if you go outside You might get shot, I'm just saying That might be what's going on

Like misunderstanding or misrepresentation Of police warnings That might be what Alex is talking about But I'm not certain There might have been a dust-up Between a cop and a reporter That I just can't find a record of I have no idea

However, that clip is a really good encapsulation Of how Alex is dealing with the supposed Martial law in Boston He touches on it for a second But only to use it as a way to amplify The other things he wants to talk about Like how the Oathkeepers can't have a permit For their rally

Or how the globalists want your guns Those are safe topics for him to stay on Because they don't involve him getting backed Into a corner by his own rhetoric The Oathkeepers are obviously still having Their rally and no one's going to stop them And no one is taking anyone's guns So it's totally fine to agitate about those topics

You're only creating hypothetical extremists If Alex were to really spend any time on the fact That according to his own worldview, Martial law is here And he's pretty consistently advocated fighting Martial law He would very quickly end up advocating Violence against the police It's a real sign of cowardice what he's doing And a clear indication that his words are just talk

If he believed half the shit he yells about on his show This would be a put-up or shut-up moment And he's instead just decided to change the subject We haven't gotten to the end yet But I'd be surprised nobody called in saying Like is it time to start a fucking war? No one called in and said that There were some people who brought up stuff

Related to the shootout from the night before Or the shelter-in-place request But it's not dealt with in any meaningful way Alex doesn't cover it as a story It's weird I would think that some of his crazier wackos Would have called in and been like If you're saying there's Martial law and all this stuff

And give him a detailed list and then be like You've said it's time to start swinging Don't worry there are some crazy wackos But I think they manifest in slightly different directions But we'll deal with that I'm a bear! Close So Alex is doing this

He brings up the shootout from the night before But only as a way to weave into his own narratives The gun stuff And as a way to bring in Stuart Rhodes So he has Stuart Rhodes, the head of the Oath Keepers On the show To talk about the situation in Lexington Green With their permit and to stupid

A lot of good insight coming Stupid interview I don't really care, they still had their ceremony And I don't give a fuck Okay fine, fuck off then But in their conversation Stuart Rhodes says some super fucked up things So in response to this

It should be we all turn it out And we hunt him down You know who your neighbors are You know who belongs to who don't Pretty short order you could have found him But instead the message is Put the wolf around Now all your sheep will stay in your pens

Stay in your barns And let us professional sheep herders Like dogs up down the wolf You stay in your house We'll come into your house one by one And search it to make sure You know us authorized professionals Will do it

That's exactly And make a giant scene And make a giant scene out of it I predict that if he was in an area of Texas He'd already be dead He'd be dead, that's actually right What you do, the answer is Let us have guns so we can turn out

And go hunting down Couple quick points Stuart Rhodes is a complete lunatic If he thinks that random armed civilians Wandering around You know in posse's would have a prefer That would be a preferable solution to what happened in Boston It didn't happen so we can only guess

But you have to imagine that a whole bunch of people Would have been shot Who had nothing to do with the bombing How many phone calls did the 9-1-1 guys get? Five hundred Five hundred And so we're saying that all of those people Are probably

They're all dead now They're all authorized So the people who you know They were calling a tip on They're fucking dead in Stuart Rhodes' world Or at least winged You wing him

Yeah Jesus Christ What a fucking moron And that's one thing to think about But a much more concrete version Is that there were tons of false suspects Who got floated by the internet Which led to tons of targeted harassment You have to kind of assume that if groups

Of armed people felt emboldened To take the law into their own hands One of those people might have been killed Absolutely It's almost a miracle that no Civilians were killed as is In the manhunt and everything The police after action report

Makes very strong points of saying That one of the main things that needed improvement I've mentioned this already Was the weapons discipline In the late night shootout in Watertown Like I said There was that crossfire situation that got created After Johar got away

An erroneous report of a stolen truck Was called in Which led to police shooting at said Truck when they spotted it No one was hurt and it turned out the people In the truck were off-duty police Who took the whole thing and stride So that's good

I guess Terrifying what could have happened Jesus But it resolved as well as it could have Imagine if it was one of those fucking right-wing weirdos Then we're talking about Or imagine if an orange shot hit the gas tank Or something big

It was all kinds of like Christ That's what you talk about with weapons discipline You need to be more careful than that Let's go to our resident historian Have roving bands of vigilantes Historically been good for people They've never gotten it wrong

Right Roving band of vigilantes I realize you've set this up poorly Because I don't do a good Vuvuzela impression These were bad Bad mistakes made by the police Were specifically trained in this sort of thing It strains credulity to imagine that a ragtag posse

Would be any more disciplined with their use of weapons I think this is a bad solution Especially not one so fucking trigger happy As the oath keepers Bottom line of what I'm getting at I want nothing less in life Than for Stewart Road style posse To be empowered to enforce the law

Particularly up to the point of using lethal force That's legitimately the stuff of nightmares Now as to Alex's contention That if this was happening in Texas They would have found and killed this guy already I beg to differ In March 2018 23 year old Mark Condit

Carried out a string of bombings Ultimately killing two people and injuring six His first bombing was on March 2nd And his serial bombings would not end Until March 21st His reign of terror did not end As some oath keeper rounded up the boys And went hunting

It was because police did a thorough investigation And tracked Condit down and tried to arrest him They were unsuccessful as he detonated a bomb He had in his car when they tried to pull him over Killing himself and injuring a cop Vigilante activity did literally nothing To help in the case of this serial bomber Who was on the loose in Texas

Nor did Alex's lunatic ravings About it all being a false flag on his show So I guess that kind of just proves Alex's we would have taken care of him Alex's bravado bullshit It's nonsense You wouldn't have done shit These people are fucking children

They're all fucking children playing out This imaginary cowboys and Indians Until they fucking die Yeah, why didn't Alex round up the boys When there was a bomber on the loose in Texas? Oh, because he could have gotten hurt, Dan Probably What a fucking group of children

It is awful It is awful that we live where these people Have so much power Yeah So Alex is talking to Stewart And he's advocating Straight up Vigilante posse Is a preferable solution to this

Which I cannot imagine You know what, a year later if you'd pulled that I imagine it would not be 83% Of Boston residents in favor I would guess How do you guys feel about how the Vigilante groups Handled the night of terror

As we know it now 1700 dead 13% says it was a good idea The rest of us are dead Did you enjoy the flimsy Rationalization purge? Yeah Boo

For 24 hours White people murdered So keep in mind in this next clip That the city of Boston Is going through some real serious stuff In the surrounding towns as well They're in a pretty messed up situation Everybody's struggling

But Stewart Rhodes is also having a tough time What's up this morning We're going to go and do this We're going to go on Leicester Green I went there prepared to be arrested By a bunch of other veterans And all the message to the police was look You can either let us take five minutes

To do our oath ceremony on the green Or you can process or you know Rest and process all of these veterans Retired cops I mean is this a free country Is this a free country You did have your rally Like you know that no one was going to

Arrest you You did like this is just crazy Ugh Bah It's just milking it for all it's worth Ugh Yeah it's lame This is that those two dudes

Who went to the pizza place and then came out And they were like I was Jack Basovic I was shook I was there were coming all over The place to You mean Jack Basovic and his friend With that end

Yeah those fucking idiots So Alex is talking to Stewart Rhodes And he wants Stewart to justify And second his belief that this is a false flag And he's expecting Stewart's going to be like Yeah absolutely His take is a little bit different Stewart Rhodes what do you say about

The false flag angle of this Because they want They don't want us to look at these navy seals And what looks like special forces of other branches Crawling all over right before the bomb happened What do you say from your research Well I mean I can't like I said the other day I was talking to you

I can't tell by some of the clothing Who they are Ooh swinging a miss Ooh Alex Ugh You got the Oathkeeper guy on the phone And he won't back you up that it was navy seals That's crazy

That's I don't like I don't like him being the one who's like I can't identify somebody by their clothing This is why Alex was shocked by that right This is why I say that there are lines There are unexpected lines That people have And I never know how to predict what they are

Like Alex probably would feel guilty If his behavior in some way impeded an investigation That ended to a building being blown up Now publicly he would probably say That that explosion was a false flag False flag for sure But in his quieter moments I'm sure you'd feel terrible about it

I think You would have hoped But again the line's impossible to predict I never would have guessed that Stuart Rhodes Would have been like I have no idea who these people are I don't do profiling What the fuck are you talking about

You're literally advocating going around And shooting brown people for fun And you're the one who's going to be like Look you know your neighborhood You know who's not supposed to be there Yeah what the fuck are you talking about How are you going to identify who's not supposed to be there If you're

I don't judge by clothing Right I'm saying Lines are weird I don't know I don't know what to make of it Alex please We use skin color not clothing Thank you very much

That does seem to be what he's Maybe comfortable with Though probably wouldn't articulate Yeah yeah yeah So in this next clip We finally have the Younger bomber's name Alex finally knows who it is

I believe this is the first time that he says it Jokar Zarnev is supposedly The young skinny Man that we all nationwide Why not put the whole country under martial law Why not put a 315 million people in prison Because of this

They are all over Boston Surrounding suburbs into Connecticut At checkpoints Pointing their M4s at men and women In their cars Jerking people out Going in houses They're about to have a press conference

I was just watching it out there With just incredible Off the chart Unbelievable Grandstanding Grandstanding Going on This is about as much as it gets

In terms of coverage of this stuff Like he says that a couple of times Cities under martial law You'd expect getting into it Not just stray mentions On the way to other topics Yeah he's just tossing off the idea That an entire city is under martial law

Whenever he spent his entire career Saying that if a city goes under martial law That's the signal that they're going to take over the country And kill us all in disarm us And so on and so forth Not just like Oh yeah Boston's under martial law Whatevs today right

You would expect at very least His angle on it would be Alright let's not panic about this This is a temporary law enforcement activity That is way beyond the realm of what is acceptable What we need to focus on Is that this is a trial run Or something like that

They will lift the martial law And practice And I'm certain that that is where Alex will land Eventually But you would expect that that would be Because he needs to cover this And instead of covering it It's just like I said

Aside Stray mentions That's an angle that you're not going to get In the moment I don't think Because that's a solid In the moment? Yeah If you're Alex

He woke up early that day Is that time to ruminate and think Alright you're assuming that he does work Before he gets to work Right So it turns out most of his work Is actually just reading Negative articles about himself

Okay of course This is the day for that Yeah The LA Times Is reporting That I am basically A big fat giant demonic rat That says internet sewer

And shows a manhole sewer cover And it says right on schedule The vermin surface The US government orchestrated The Boston Marathon bombing Obama did it so he can Take our guns He used navy seals

Backed up by flying monkeys from Oz That's the LA Times Oh LA Times Alex Jones has a sick theory About the Boston Marathon bombings LA Times David Horsey

Now Oh wait But I have a problem here For him What does this say For radio listeners You can go to the Washington Post This is the Washington Times

There's also a blurb in the Washington Post Sure Men with backpacks Boston Marathon Private contractors Yeah And it goes on

To say that they've denied Or won't comment But that sure enough These look like people Wearing craft international uniforms That is a sheep dip group For navy seals And they look like navy seals

Look like them So craft international is like a group They make cheeses Yeah That's right They're like a contracting group The internet decided that they were The people who Alex saw with the backpacks

Sure why not Who were actually the civil support teams Who were called in Yeah Who were at every large event Like we talked about there At every home football game So whatever

That's what the new preoccupation is On the internet It is now starting to seep into Alex's Right Conversation about it David Knight has been more on this Prior to this But Alex hasn't been talking about craft itself

That much But now it's So anyway That's just for context It is irrelevant Yeah It may seem like a little minor slip-up That Alex tries to refute that

LA Times story With the Washington Times Headline That he tries to pass off As a Washington Post headline But if you know what these papers are That looks less like a mistake And more like sleight of hand

The Washington Post is a mainstream media paper So if they're publishing an article speculating About how there may have been These craft international agents At the marathon It lends things a bit more credibility Which is exactly what Alex is trying to achieve By citing this story

For the story to make it to the WAPO It would need to pass layers of editors So it carries a bit more weight Conversely The Washington Times Is a completely untrustworthy pseudo-news outlet Founded by the cult leader reverend Sun Young Moon

Boone said, quote, I founded the Washington Times As an expression of my love for America And to fulfill the will of God Who seeks to establish America in his providence That's a... That's the operating philosophy For most of the fourth estate

I'm pretty sure that's how they all started Yeah These intentions concretely translated To taking an over-the-top anti-communist position In pretty much all of his writing Right, right, right It is strange how that tends to happen In its early days

The paper was mainly about how great the Cold War was And then after the fall of the USSR They pivoted towards communist menaces In South America Gotta watch out for him The Washington Times sucks And no unbiased person would take it seriously But you can see why Alex might think it's a good source

He comes from an insane John Birch society family So you can easily imagine him growing up With the Washington Times as an incredible outlet But Alex isn't totally crazy He knows that most people look at the Times as unreliable And the Post as a normal news publication It doesn't make Alex look better To appeal to a Times headline

But it does make... That headline is in the Washington Post That's why he says it's a Washington Post headline Then pauses and lets out a big sigh When he realizes it's a Washington Times story That's a sigh of disappointment That he doesn't have the MSM gotcha moment That he was building up to

That's telling Yeah It's also pretty brilliant Reacting in the moment to be like There's also a blurb in the Post Because that makes it seem like Oh, the mistake is just I don't have time now to pull up the Post article

I've already got the Times article in front of me There's a blurb about it in the Post But I'm just gonna reference the one that I have in front of me And he does that repeatedly I just don't have time He does that repeatedly Directly citing the Washington Times article And saying it's also in the Post

He says that like three times throughout this show Yeah, he knows what he's doing there Absolutely Yeah So he's sort of spinning his wheels And like we know there's a one to three to five percent chance That this was a real terrorist attack And he's like maybe it is true

Which at that rate of speed by now We're at a hundred percent that it was a real time If it's one to three to five that quick Then we assume that it's what seven, ten I would say it's at a hundred percent now If it's past ten minutes I'm not gonna I mean he doesn't quantify it

So I don't know the number exactly But here's where he's at Joe Carr is the one living And Czar Nav is the last name And Tamerlan is the supposed larger boxer brother Who's dead I mean who knows if any of it's true Maybe it's all true

Maybe none of it's true All I know is Are we up to fifty-fifty? You acted guiltiest sin when drills and stand-downs Were brought up at those three press conferences I mean Ladies and gentlemen, when we plugged in FullWars.com Whenever Dan Badandi, our reporter

In the third press conference After they canceled the others And by the way, the police in FBI came over And said You and InfoWars are gonna be good now, right? You're not gonna cause a problem And why didn't they arrest him or throw him out? They didn't want to make a scene in front of all the reporters

Well, because he also wasn't committing a crime Yeah They dealt with him as an annoying nuisance Yeah Which is what he was They didn't act guilty as sin You can go watch those videos They're just like, no

Next Yeah, yeah And the way Alex is framing this You really gotta ask some questions Because he didn't say like When we got the truth out He's like, when we plugged InfoWars Yeah

That's how he views this Yeah, we plugged InfoWars It's a publicity stunt We plugged InfoWars Right, you should have seen them so scared When we plugged InfoWars Yeah, they were They were so guilty

It's, this is all just PR Yeah That's how he understands what happened It's not a greater truth is out It's more eyes are on me Yep And he loves it So unfortunately, he doesn't have a big staff at this point

Apparently Rob Jacobson and one of the other employees Who I can't remember who it is They're on assignment in California doing something I wonder what that fucking thing is He may have fewer employees right now But his show still seems to run fairly well As opposed to not being able to play any of his clips or I think he's running also a

Scaled down operation at this point Oh, that's, yeah, that's fair Like he's still doing it as a radio and TV show But he doesn't have that giant million dollar studio Going, he has a lot less moving parts Yeah And I think a lot of the people who are working there Are people who have been there for a while

With the exception of the reporters who have won contests I think some of the, like behind the scenes people Are probably pretty competent who have been around for a bit So I think that you have an ease Compared to what he's dealing with right now But unfortunately because of this thinned out staff Like I said, Jacobson, California Aaron Dykes and Melissa Melton

Have just left to start their own off-shoot Their own operation And so like, and everybody else has just run ragged Paul Joseph Watson's been working for days straight Oh, non-stop David Knight, Jakari Jackson are tired as hell From doing the nightly news Carrying those live waters

Leanne McAdoo is new Oh, she doesn't even know where Boston is Dude, they do play a special report of hers About drones And it's remarkably competent Really? It is not sensational She is citing sources

What? Yeah, it's really weird Oh, well, she's new She probably thought that she's supposed to be doing the job New brush, new broom sweeps clean Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah There is a sense And I think probably a number of people who work at InfoWars

Go through this I think in the early time They probably think they're doing something real Right And they might try Right But he plays that report and is like Damn, that didn't feel like InfoWars

It's still like pointing a finger at Obama But also doing it in a way In a context that is Drone strikes are bad And they are Obama's fault I'm with you Yeah God damn it

And the main point of it Seemed to be largely about Saying that we precision target these drones And that's clearly not true Yeah, yeah, yeah They're like, what is going on here? Very weird That's wild

I don't know any clips of it Because in order to sort of demonstrate my point We'd have to listen to the whole thing And it's like four minutes long Yeah It's not worth that But anyway, I was shocked It's very strange

Because the day before On the 18th She was the one who came up with The different color backpack theory Yeah That's terrible work The brilliant, terrible work No, they're different color backpacks

Genius Yeah And then this special report Fairly competent That's crazy It's weird The yin and yang of new InfoWars employees Gotta be dumb enough

To come up with a different color backpack theory And we gotta beat out The whole journalistic integrity After overtime Yeah Or you just realize You don't have to So why try

That's fair There's no standards Right You know, whatever But he doesn't have enough staff To cut clips of things That he's seen in the news Sure

And this, I believe, is the beginning Of the narrative pivoting I have a limited crew And I have a limited staff And I already had interviews For upcoming films A lot of my crew's out in California Right now

But I need listeners to do this We need to get And we have a bunch of these clips coming up We probably have, I don't know Let's not exaggerate 15 clips of Chris Matthews On MSNBC And CNN

And guest of Our favorite Red Cope Here's Morgan And everybody Everybody On CNN, MSNBC CNBC Even Fox

Saying This'll probably end up being Military vets that are disgruntled Maybe even Navy SEALs I saw CNN And MSNBC Four times And I'm believing

I'm not watching the news It's kind of on during breaks And on while I'm doing research And I'll see it on YouTube Four times say Navy SEALs In fact, before we saw These photos of Navy SEALs I guess it was Wednesday

Yeah So we found out about this Wednesday Tuesday I saw CNN And then I saw text of other shows Saying people sent me transcripts Of them going Yeah, it could be like disgruntled Navy SEALs

So now that tells me And these were like globalist operatives on TV Sure Top FBI analyst It could be Navy SEALs What? So we've got to go dig all that creepiness up They were actually thinking about

Framing Navy SEALs Because, I mean, who would come up with Navy SEALs? George Norrie On the same coast to coast episode you were on Look, I don't know I don't care about this as dumb But it is very important

Because earlier in this episode Alex had done his normal They were going to blame this white patsy And then they've switched to the Muslim option Now he's saying all along They intended to blame the Marines The SEALs So this is a fundamental change

In his narrative Because that dude, the white patsy that Alex had picked out Is not a military guy He is not a Navy SEAL Right None of the people in those pictures that he's pointing to Are necessarily Navy SEALs Well, you know what the mistake was

So they only said Navy SEALs four times Everybody knows that in order for the Navy SEALs to appear You have to say it five times into the mirror Not a Beetlejuice situation You have to say it five times into the mirror Whatever is going on is a fundamental shift Like this undoes a lot of the point Of everything he's been saying

If they had planned If it's Navy SEALs, then why would they try and use that To take away your guns, you fucking idiot Well, because they need to get the military in line For the takeover or whatever Sure, fine Sure It all is crazy

But what's so interesting about listening to this show Is like how disjointed it is Like this is... If you're thinking and listening This is a problem for the earlier days Certainly, because it's a very different narrative Being sold But I don't think that his audience has trouble with it

No, no I think there's like, oh, that makes sense It doesn't make sense His narrative is like an amorphous blob That is just like certain parts just expand at one moment And then they come back in And then another part expands And it just keeps rolling along

It fits through little holes Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly It's like that show that Stephen Colbert Pitched back in the day No bone zone Yes People with no bones Try to fit through a hole

No bone zone So Alex has now decided That this is a plan to set up the Marines And so he's also decided that the people That he's seen in these pictures That he found on 4chan are Kraft International And so in this next clip He talks about how they should reach out

To Kraft International He claims that they already tried to call them But the way he's discussing this Makes me think he has not And by the way, we've tried to put calls into Kraft I'm going to put more calls into him By the way, I should open the phones up Specifically for people

I mean here, I bet Kraft's listing right now You're welcome to call in You're absolutely welcome In fact, I want to tell my reporters David Knight And Jakari Jackson and everybody else that's here I want you to all call Kraft right now Officially and get statements Officially

But we need to be doing all this work right now Should new say again It feels like they haven't called They were calling them socially before They were just giving them a nice call They wanted to see if they wanted to go get a drink later Now it's time to officially say We are info horse employees

And we would like your statement It doesn't seem like they've called It seems like you just realized that And then you're saying, well, we tried I mean, technically, they tried to get To the phone to call Kraft But they didn't even make it all the way to the phone You could say they tried to call Kraft

Whenever you are a journalistic enterprise And you do reach out to somebody There is formality to like, they say no comment Or they don't return calls Right And Alex isn't expressing that He's like, we tried to call them Yeah, we gave her a shot

Line was busy It doesn't feel real No Anyway, Alex now reads a comment from info wars And as we learned from the last time You tried to do this It got racist really fast I know, is Barton going to drop two Edwards on this one?

That was Paddle Whatever They're the same He tries to read, and he sets this up By saying, I really agree with this comment And I want to read a comment here From the info wars.com article I was just mentioning that I agree with

I want to read this here Plan A was the white tea party White lone wolf gun owner But that was called off due to exposure So plan B was to get the Muslim guys Plan C might have been Blacks or Gays Actually, I don't agree with that now Weird

Weird Comment got weird I agreed with all of this up until I read the last part out loud And realized I'm not supposed to say that out loud Comment got weird As is the case with pretty much all comments On infowars.com But it's interesting because I

It's easy to hear that and be like, I don't agree with that You're sort of trying to write off the comment And he doesn't read any more of the comment Oh no, is there more of the comment? No, I can't find his comments anymore They're all gone from the internet Plan D is the Irish Plan E is everyone from Ethiopia

No, we don't know where that goes But it would be easy to hear that and hear him say I don't agree with that as indicative of being like They were going to blame the Blacks and the Gays That is not what he's disagreeing with The fundamental assumption here And this is part of the pivoting of the narrative Actually, I don't agree with that now

I know I said that day one was the pre-programming It was even worse They were planning, or at least it was being discussed To blame Navy SEALs Because again All over the news they kept saying it's probably a disgruntled vet Like a Navy SEAL And we're going to compile all those videos

Where they said that Navy SEAL Navy SEAL We need your help doing it I know I've seen it You need more staff That's bananas The thing about this is like he's saying that they

They're planning to blame the SEALs Or at least they talked about it What are you basing that on? Well You don't know any conversations that anyone had You're just making that up Right, well of course I think he's trying to say that he's extrapolating that

They must have had those conversations Because I did hear them say Navy SEAL four times Which means obviously If you reverse engineer it That means six months ago they said we were going to blame a Navy SEAL Expressing it that way holds a lot less water Oh yeah Than they've had conversations

Fuck What is brilliant And I think it's probably accidental But what is brilliant is putting it on his audience To put those clips together Instead of having to do it himself Sure Because then if you don't get it

And if you don't play those clips We're working on it Then well hey that's your fault audience You're the ones who didn't do it Or you can permanently be like the audience is putting it together Exactly That's genius But the narrative's pivoting buddy

It's now they're planning to set up the Marines all along Alex has put the pieces together and we are moving forward Hey I had a click happen last hour Then I'm going to your calls That is so horrible That it gave me the beginnings of a migraine headache Which I only get about once or twice a year

Which is setting in right now It made me so physically sick When it all clicked That since Tuesday I have seen CNN MSNBC And CNBC And newspapers

And I need all you to pull this up and help us I just mentioned 615, 630 Something like that last night CNN What's her name Aaron something What's her name Former CNBC host is on there with her expert Aaron Burnett

Thank you Saying It might be Navy SEALS And this is the expert on there I will say that I can neither confirm nor deny That Aaron Burnett Or her expert guest said such a thing on her show last night From when Alex was recording

But I can give you some reasons why I don't think they did What we're listening to right now is Alex's show from the 19th The night before would have been the 18th And if her show was taking place after 6pm as Alex said Then it would have had to have been after the FBI press conference Where the suspect photos were released It seems very unlikely that a TV show host Or her expert guest would be discussing the possibility

That these people who did the bombing were disgruntled veterans After the photos of them had been released And they're clearly both pretty young That's the type of shit you would do on InfoWars I mean I guess it's possible It's possible You know Maybe Alex has his time stamp wrong

And this was a pre-press conference TV show Sure, sure, sure But whatever the case It seems like he's just pulling this out of thin air Yeah, yeah, yeah I don't know if we'll get an update on this later in the show We might Uh-oh

Alex is so wrong Anyway, Alex goes to calls And, man, some of these people are wild The first guy that he talks to wants to talk about the white patsy In the pictures that Alex found from 4chan The one thing that actually stands up The guy in the blue jacket with the red shirt The poor, poor looking guy

That the bag actually matches his straps That he's got over his arms Do you know what I'm talking about? Yes, the FBI released the exploded bag remnants And it looks identical A black backpack with a silver stripe on the strap Right, right Now, if you actually had a bag that you brought with you

And you're in a big crowded area You're going to carry your bag over your back They're going to carry it over your back You're not going to have it right there Like you're about to drop it Exactly And he looks suspicious I mean, if I was a cop at the end of the marathon

That's the guy I'd be searching Exactly He's the one that you would single out You would pull him out of the crowd You would try to figure out what's going on there Of course I have a fun thought experiment for you, Jordan Of course

That's exactly what I would do Let's imagine that no bombing took place at the Boston Marathon Do you think for a single second that Alex and this caller Would even take a second look at a picture of a man Carrying a backpack in front of himself Do you think that that rises to any level of suspicion? Man, I'm really trying to find a funny way of saying yes But it really doesn't

There's nothing Nope There's nothing Under the circumstances where there wasn't a bombing Your mind would see that picture And realize that the photograph takes one split Second into consideration And doesn't tell you anything about what happened

Just before or just after If there hadn't been a bombing You would just see that And any number of innocuous explanations would make sense Maybe his back was tired Maybe he'd just taken something out of the bag Maybe he was preparing to take something out of the bag Maybe he was going to give it to a friend to carry for a while

Also, maybe because his back was tired Why would you prepare to take something out of your backpack? Maybe he'd just seen that Lionel report about backpacks being rude And he was trying to not hit anybody with it If you saw the video you would hear him under his breath going Lionel, Lionel, Lionel Taking off his backpack There's literally nothing suspicious about a person carrying a backpack

Not on their back Unless you desperately want to make it suspicious Now let's take this thought experiment a little bit further Let's imagine that there was no bombing at the marathon And this guy did get searched and shaken down by the police Could we imagine Alex in this alternative reality Using that search as an example of a police state run amok? These two guys are talking about the idea of singling out and searching a guy

As if it's just common sense that this is what you would do When if it did happen they'd almost certainly be opposed to it What, you just think he looks weird? And you're going to search him? It doesn't make any sense These people are stupid Right Very, very stupid

But there's more No These guys apparently, maybe When Alex was back in his community college days Maybe he took an entry level psychology course Sure And maybe this caller knows a bit about psychology Because they decide to psychoanalyze the guy in the picture

I would rather they didn't He is holding that backpack He is holding every bit of the shame and guilt that he's ever had in his life Exactly, his body language is He feels like a total piece of crap and how did he get talked into this Exactly Yeah, he's so ashamed I mean, is that defamatory?

It's not good I don't know if it's defamation to say he looks ashamed Your honor, I was not ashamed at the time And this has harshly earned my future earnings I think that many prospective employers have said that I looked ashamed And so they have not hired me I think the larger picture of what they're doing with this guy is definitely not appropriate But that is at least just sort of a judgment call

Like I think he looks ashamed What kind of a dick is this guy? Everyone's a dick on this show Yeah, but this is just wild Yeah He's carrying shame? Yeah Okay, man

So another thing that comes up with calls is a new piece of the narrative So now we've decided that the Marines were going to be blamed That's a new development here on this episode No longer are we dealing with the white redneck, not blaming them anymore Well, apparently this caller still is, he looks ashamed Yeah, that's true And look, dude, the bottom line is that all of this can work if you just think that there's a hundred different patsies there Yeah, there you go

They've got all the options Yeah, it's a buffet of people they could blame They meant to blame the Marines But the white patsy was there in case they wanted to go with the redneck angle The Muslims were there who may or may not have actually been Muslims for that same purpose In case they wanted to, it's crazy It's the old country Patriots Day buffet of patsies Basically

That's what we could do Yes But so now we're prioritizing the idea that they wanted to blame the Marines And the idea that the city is under lockdown They're on the shelter-in-place order There's a new wrinkle that's going to start developing These guys, they're on pictures everywhere So for them to come out and say, you know, maybe a Navy SEAL did it

They're saying that just in case pictures get credibility And somebody somewhere in a position to make a difference actually speaks out And says, look at all these Navy SEALs everywhere You know, I mean, they're just, that's another way for, you know, mainstream media to cover their butt No, I agree And they're probably telling them right now, you keep your mouth shut or you're going to go to jail for this Yeah So this is the beginning of a kernel that's going to grow a little bit as this show goes along

And that is what's going on with these patsies right now Yeah, yeah, yeah Who aren't patsies They're just hanging out Right I do appreciate that a certain kind of stupid person can have a conversation that I would have high sober That's a You don't know that

The caller might be high That's fair, that's fair So the whole state is under martial law now according to Alex, which it's not This is dumb The whole state has been turned into a martial law zone They've spilled into Connecticut This is just unprecedented And who knows what even the truth is

There have been so many patsies There haven't been so many patsies There have been so many patsies It's all imaginary I just love the spirit that they apply to this Just escalating it from what we've got a few pictures to God, I can't even believe how many patsies are out there I'm overwhelmed with how many people I and the internet have decided to blame for this

Yeah Which makes you think if there are that many patsies We shouldn't have a bunch of vigilantes going around shooting people That's exactly the point I made about all this stuff It would turn so fucking dangerous So many, oh man, this patsy over here let's shoot him I'm not a patsy, that's just what patsies would say Oh fuck

So Alex had Stuart Rhodes on earlier to talk vigilante justice, I guess And no show would be complete without another gun weirdo And so he has Larry Pratt from Gun Owners of America Of course, of course And I would say that Larry does not comport himself quite Up to the standards of a decent person Okay What is your breakdown on the spectacle of martial law

Of martial law over much of the state you're in right now looking for one guy It's pretty extraordinary and as you were saying when you let in Surprise, it was a muslim or two muslims That's what muslims do Boo What? Boo Larry What the fuck?

Good Good stuff Larry You guys can't do it all That's great, that's real great We assumed that it was going to be a right wing lunatic That they were going to plant the false flag on So they could steal our guns But what do we get?

A muslim Because they just do that Because they do it What the fuck are you talking about? So in 2019 on our Friday episode we had Alex's lawyer Robert Barnes Come on the show and say that we're at war with Islam And you know that's awful and it sucks to hear It sucks that people act that way

Yeah Back to 2013 you hear like these are the same ideas That have been underlying a lot of the guests and the people in Alex's orbit For a very long time I mean they go all the way back to the fucking 90s Totally, totally But Larry Pratt is coming on here And like he's not saying we should have a war with Islam

But he is saying that muslims just blow stuff up I mean we shouldn't have a war with them But as an entire people they just blow stuff up all the time It's not harmful It's sort of implied that if you don't have a war with them They're just gonna blow you up Yeah blow stuff up Can't have that

It's a very fucked up position And so Larry you have disearned the ability to have any more of your clips played on this episode Be gone You're banished You're on time out You're on time out, okay fair, fair And the rest of it's just boring and you talk about how great guns are We're not sending him directly into exile

We're gonna keep him in, okay So Alex wants to build up more of this idea that the Marines and the Navy SEALs Were the people who were going to be set up Right And one of the ways he's going to do that is to say You know what, he's looking at those pictures And they look surprised The body language of the SEALs to me

Is they were just told to be there for a drill and didn't know And because I mean I've looked at now there's a ton of these photos and videos They look just you know and I see some other guys that look You know like older special ops like back look totally freaked out You know like whoa what just happened minutes after the blast My issue is it started clicking last night I've seen them four times since Tuesday Say maybe it's a former military like a Navy SEAL

When they have these creepy FBI and Southern Burby Law Center type guys on And so are they looking at framing the SEALs or what is that? What is that? So you can see this narrative is building It's shifting, everything is changing And this is where it really comes together Alex gets a call from a guy who thinks that the shelter in place request Right

It's very weird It's very weird Yeah I would say it's unusual Yeah certainly And we need an explanation for why it's actually happening Oh there's a bomber on the loose No no no no That's what they want you to think

Oh I didn't realize that they wanted me to think something No no no no You're a fool You're a damn fool I'm sorry You are a globalist titty baby You're right I apologize

You know what I stepped in it on this one You did That was on me Yeah Here's what's actually going on The city of Boston effectively has shut down all the transit everything Something is in place And they're telling me that the police are saying we'll kill you if you show what's happening

Yeah Well they could be They could be hunting down special ops people that have blown the whistle Who knows So this is What whistle to whom? Where? What?

This is thrown out as a suggestion They could be hunting down whistleblowers Totally Who have yet to blow a whistle anyway Well these patsies that were in the pictures Right The marines and seals Right

No you're right of course They need to lock down the city so they can mop up loose ends Right So they're going around with hit teams Yeah Going around and killing all these people that could blow the whistle Professional vigilantes Now when I heard that I thought that's crazy

Yeah First of all Yeah And then second of all We'll see how it goes for the rest of the show That can't be That can't come back That cannot be a thing that comes back

Spoiler alert It does So we've got some weird movie montage of them hunting down random people Oh my god So it's introduced though in the context of being a who knows what's going on while talking to a caller But as we go through this episode you'll see it become more like I like that idea That makes sense And Alex starts building it into his coverage

But he has this caller who's introduced this idea Also wants to give a shout out to Dan Badandi And Alex reveals something that I think It doesn't look good for him now Okay Do you know what we privately say about Badandi when we send him on a mission? What? Release the Kraken

That is not that funny In fact that is not funny at all No So release the Kraken is of course a reference to the movie Clash of the Titans It's a common catchphrase that people use And the way they use it is always in the context of sending in an offensive It's a weapon release What Alex is revealing here with his joke is two fold

The first thing is actually pretty important Because it may seem obvious to the point where you ignore it And that is that Alex sends Dan Badandi to cover the things he covers In his deposition about his Sandy Hook case Alex has tried hard, as hard as he can To distance himself in any official way from Badandi's antics But this clip really seems to suggest that Badandi is an instrument of info wars They have a target and they send him out to do what he does

The second thing this reveals is that Alex sees Badandi sending Badandi somewhere It's tantamount to releasing a destructive weapon Badandi is not a reporter going out to ask questions He's a mythical beast who's completely uncontrollable That Alex is letting loose on people, namely the citizens of Boston and Sandy Hook And Alex relishes that He's not fake laughing there That's actual giddiness he has to tell this caller about calling Badandi the Kraken

He loves that he can throw a grenade at these people and watch it explode from a safe distance This illustrates a cruel and sadistic streak in Alex But it also kind of shows that Alex really doesn't give a shit about Dan Badandi He's a thing to Alex, a beast to release on people But not somebody who he really values that much outside of his destructive capacity I really hate Dan Badandi, and I hope he's really ashamed of himself for what he's done But you kind of can't help but feel a little bit bad for him here As much as Alex is clearly using him

I don't feel that bad though Yeah, you know, I think I've lost it all You know, I used to have that feeling of like, Alex, come on, you're choosing your friends You know, like Steve Pachennick is lying to you These people are being mean to you when they're not enabling you They're taking advantage of you All of this is awful, and then Alex is doing the same thing to so many other people I'm just like, that's their nature

You know, it's like these people just do that Maybe not nature, but it's the game they're playing Because it's a choice to be engaged in this It's not like some kind of ingrained thing Right And choose to engage in as a part of their business model Yeah, absolutely So yeah, it's tough to feel that bad

But at the same time, you know, you've got to still stay in touch with your human instincts And someone being used is not good Right, it sucks So anyway, I still don't feel... What I choose to do in a case like this is instinctually I feel a little bit of pity for Dan Badandi But because he's clearly willingly acting in such an awful way towards vulnerable, grieving people I choose to transmute that pity into disgust towards Alex

I like it That's the way I like it I appreciate that I still hate Badandi, I don't need to feel bad for him No But Alex is the one who's behaving this way And he's the one who deserves even worse hatred Yes, I agree

Direct it that way Perfect So anyway, release the Kraken Yeah Real lame So Alex gets a call from a guy in Boston And Alex wants to know if he thinks it's a false flag As a Bostonian, what's your gut on this?

False flag or not? My gut instinct is probably not, to be honest with you No, that's why we don't screen your calls We won't hear what you have to say This could be the one in a million where it hadn't been staged But then why were there feds crawling all around right for the bomb went off? And why are they lying about it? So, you know, it's like, hey, you know, you can say whatever you want

But I'm going to be like, why, why, why, why Answer everything Answer every question I have And if there's one answer you don't have an answer for Then you're obviously part of the plan You can say it's a false flag if you want But I'm going to badger you Your disinformation campaign

I don't know, I'm not sure if it goes that far But he is going to badger people who disagree Which is not fun So in this next clip Alex is talking about the idea that there is like the city on lockdown And he makes a crucial mistake in how he discusses it I see families driving through and they're pointing guns at them all over the city It's not like they think he's in one block and they're doing that

That I can see just a whole into other cities That is an interesting ripple So, so here's another weird line And that line turns out to be exactly one block long It turns out that Alex is not philosophically opposed to the police acting the way they have in Boston His main complaint seems to be a question of scale Everything in moderation, Dan And Jordan, that's a huge problem

He really needs to be against it regardless of the size for his argument to make any sense See, because that clip naturally raises the question of what size area is too large For the police to enact what Alex calls martial law Alex says here that he thinks it's okay on one block Presumably because the police would have narrowed down their search to that one block But what if they've narrowed it down to a two block radius That they have good reason to suspect that the suspect is in What's the substantive difference between one and two blocks

That Alex would use to justify one being okay and the other not I will give you a very clear idea of what number of blocks the suburbs And we're not going to worry too much about the inner city blocks if you wink wink If you know what I'm, inner city blocks Well, now you actually introduce another issue is how big is a block Because in different parts of a city, blocks will be different lengths So you're, it's very arbitrary The definition that you're making of like this being okay

Are we including minors or with just majors Like what type of block are we dealing with there And then Jordan, what if there are two criminals on the loose and they've split up Can you then broaden the area that's on lockdown If one suspect being traced justifies one block being locked down And the police telling people in that block to stay indoors and you know, walking around with guns Then two suspects justifies an additional lockdown, right On only one more block

Sure, maybe But even so, that's a problem That's the scale, it has to be one terrorist per block Okay, but that's still a problem Yeah, it's an issue Yeah, and now what if this suspect is someone who set off bombs at a marathon then killed police And what if you're not sure if they're working with other people, possibly even a network Surely that qualifies them to be considered a target that justifies using the most extreme measures allowable to catch them

My point here is that Alex has made a form of martial law okay And from that point, he's completely lost any kind of ground he can stand on If he were against the police acting this way under any circumstances There's not a whole lot I could do to argue against him I could disagree with him and say that I believe that there are occasions where the public should possibly do things that are uncomfortable to themselves personally to help the greater public interest But I couldn't say like, hey, you are fucked up, you're out a lot, like you've made a mistake Yeah But since Alex says locking down one block because you think a suspect is there

He's completely failed Now he needs to answer so many questions he absolutely can't answer Like why one block is okay but a greater area isn't What's the difference? Yeah That's a pretty big fuck up on his part Like listening to him, I often find things he says that are lies, things that are stupid But it's rare to find such an unforced error like that

No one's asking him to like, you know, make his message less extreme Or like to moderate No one is saying, hey Alex be reasonable about this, what if it's a block For whatever reason, he's just decided to moderate this anti-police lockdown stance He's just made his job way harder He's accidentally supported martial law Yeah, it's almost like he is trying by accident to be reasonable about this being like No, no, I think that's his intention

Yeah, that's what I'm saying, like for no reason he goes off brand Right The whole point is be as unreasonable and as stonewalling and as absolutist as possible If you interject one moment of reasonability into this Then it's magical And it's a thing that he says a couple times The idea of one block is okay Right

I just don't think he understands his own positions I don't think he understands what he believes or what he should be saying If he believed the things he believes Right It's a layering indication that he's making this shit up as he goes along It's all based on feelings and whatever he just thinks in the moment Yeah It'd be very much like actually getting down to who he cares about living or dying

At that point of just like sooner or later he's gonna say Look, I care, nobody, you know, everybody has a heart man Like that kind of thing And he's like, well there you go You are arbitrarily creating these rules and you don't believe any of this nonsense I think that the arbitrary aspect is very clear I would welcome him to make the argument why one block is okay and let's say six blocks isn't Yeah

I would be fine That would be an interesting conversation He's welcome to make that argument But I do not see him making that argument and he needs to If one is okay and the other isn't Because otherwise it is arbitrary Right Well, and the basic idea behind that argument is

I would be more comfortable understanding that these people have a target That it's not just a wide sweep and that they are narrowing it down in a very specific way And by having it only be a block, I feel far safer That doesn't work, that's your feelings Exactly That argument doesn't matter Exactly You got it

So anyway, Alex may be crowdsourced this But he found that clip from Aaron Burnett from the night before He found it Yeah, let's see how that goes I know that walking back and forth in front of TV He's the last three days I've heard them say it's probably a military veteran It could be a military person

It could be military training Foreign military that's bombed us Foreign And then I remember hearing that last night right before I went on the air But they actually found the transcript And what they said is this type of thing that a soldier Now that doesn't mean it's a US soldier That means it's someone who probably has experience

It could be a US adversary So on that particular show I was talking about That's not what they said But I know I've seen them Whoops Why would he do that? I don't know That's very weird

That's so weird Yeah, because what it demonstrates is that That transcript that he just read is what he heard And what he experienced was them blaming Navy Seals Yeah, absolutely So that is a really good insight into how he processes information Right That's really bad

I mean, what's even weirder is that he said it Yeah, I bet one of his employees insisted Really? I would assume so Maybe he does not do that Because he does not do that now No, I think one of the problems is he was too specific Because he said Aaron Burnett the night before

And it would be too easy to trace down that it doesn't say what he said You're right, that's fair He's so vague with a lot of his specific references Yeah, he could have just said some CNN anchor and instead he said Aaron Burnett And then if someone sends him that transcript He can be like, that's not the one I was talking about Yeah, yeah But he was too specific

So weird I think that might be why, who knows Anyway, he goes back to calls And he gets a call from a guy who says that he has information about this alleged white patsy That Alex has been making a big deal about Oh, that's not good You'll see how it goes Oh, boy

Jason in Wisconsin is army and says they have intel on blue shirt Suspect everybody's talking about Go ahead, Jason Huh, I expected to get cut off Or my house drone strike before I even get on the air Look at this Okay, you don't want your kids to die, right? I got kids too

I don't want them to die I'm speaking out and decloaking On Facebook You want to know about the guy with the hat Or the hair The old guy with the hair The blue shirt Carrying the backpack with two hands

It does look a little heavy on this big giant shoulder Okay This is Joe Fried Biker, B-L-E-I-C-H-E-R On Facebook, Sean Knights of Malta go hide behind Red Cross That's why they were... That's why Bush was laughing

Give me your money Well listen, brother, do me this Send us an email at showtipsandinfallworks.com With specifically what you're talking about and where on Facebook We'll look it up Thank you so much Alex knows well enough to like... Uh-oh, don't let this guy talk more

He is rambling It's Malta, huh? Hiding behind a Red Cross George Bush laughs Oh man Oh boy That was some sort of surrealist art No, that's what you expect from Alex's callers

Right, right That's about right And Alex needs to protect the business from that You know, like he needs to make sure that That appearance is minimized Less other listeners think like This show might really appeal to people who have Some processing problems

Crazy-ass shit Yeah So another caller calls in and is just parroting Alex's line Back to him on the show But the thing is You and your staff put a cog in the wheel When you came up with those photos And you presented them online

It made them delay the news briefs It delayed the conferences And they had to change your story Because of you and your new staff It took them a day to do it Well, I don't want all the credit It's too dangerous Actually, other people did that

I am getting a lot of death threats right now But go ahead There's no evidence for any of this outside of just things Alex has said This is all just Alex's imagination Being reflected back at him by a caller You're only saying that he stopped the bombing Because Alex said it Because Alex told you that he said it

That's not enough Nope Why would you say that back to somebody? Here's what you gotta get It is enough on InfoBoards Yeah, that's true That's enough here I mean, it's just not enough

This story is fun Alright, I believe it Yeah, man Anyway, this caller also wants to compliment Dan Badandi And this is something that the other caller said too That he has a sack of steel I think it's a meme that's going around That Dan Badandi's got a sack of steel

And I gotta tell you Mr. Badandi has got a sack of steel without a doubt Well, you know what? He had him kind of intimidating him and threatening him and stuff All three times before and after But still they were afraid to, I guess, arrest him Because they didn't want him to be the newscast But when he got InfoBoards.com out

And all over the world They were carrying that newsfeed live Normally, we got about a million visitors at InfoBoards Half a million to Prison Planet Big days, maybe two million max Guess how many visitors we had per minute For several hours after that happened All of it is about the PR

All of it is about the publicity from the stunt that he did He sent Dan Badandi out there to cause a scene Yellenfowards.com got a ton of traffic Same thing he ends up doing in the 2016 election With the Bill Clinton's Arapist contest This is his MO, this is what he does And when there's serious issues going on That other people are trying to deal with

He's trying to get attention So cool, good stuff So Alex takes another caller And here's where it goes from the suggestion That the lockdown is about cleaning up patsies To it being seriously suggested I did not know that Now it's all a martial law deal on Patreon

It teaches to be good slaves And they even have said Later today on the menu as part of your vacation We will have a controlled demolition of an explosive So be ready for that And we'll kill any media we see following us Because we're busy exterminating our patsies right now 100% you know Alex

I did get up at 4.10 It didn't take you very long to get right up to speed And you were literally right up to speed This is a sanitation exercise right now We are going after the patsies Obviously don't want these people to talk So now that is the line The whole situation in Boston that's going on

Is just so no one is out on the streets Whenever they clean up the patsies And there's a big problem with that The first is that if you Well Not one Yeah It's based on nothing

Second there are no patsies Third if you go and look at pictures of Boston From the 19th It's weird Because streets are fairly empty But if you go and look at those pictures Almost everyone has a few people in them You'll be able to see a few people

Because the shelter in place request Was a request It wasn't enforced It wasn't like you have to stay in your homes If you wanted to go out and about And enjoy I don't know long fellow park And just like take the risk

So you could see an empty park You could Multiple Dunkin' Donuts places were still open Because Dunkin' Donuts is a goddamn Institution in New England It was weird to see the Google Street View car Out on the road though

Trying to make the most of it Track a lot of miles With no cars on the road But there were people out and about It's not like it was Strictly enforced Stay in your homes or we'll shoot you That's nonsense

And that cop threatening the reporter I do believe is still The warning that there's an active shooting going on Now this controlled explosion Thing that Alex is talking about Has to do with the police finding what they believe To be another device in a home That they were searching

Where the Sarnev brothers had stayed Also the media wasn't threatened and told Not to follow them or anything like that There's actually tons of pictures you can find Of the police at that home Like there's a place called Hutton Photography If you just Google the Boston Marathon Week they have tons of pictures

At that home So there's no crack This is a zero Anyway I mostly just played that clip To illustrate how now it seems like Alex is fully embraced They're just trying to clean up Patsy's narrative Which I need to point out And I know I sound like a broken record

That's based on literally nothing but his imagination Everything in this coverage Is stuff Alex is imagining It's none of it is real Almost none of it is real Really that caller and Alex Being like this is a Fucking cleanser

Extermination or whatever It's just like I can't really comprehend that much Gaslighting That is just It's not real man You guys are talking about it with this excited Like we cracked the code

Energy about you I don't get it I can actually explain a little bit of that later In this episode I don't understand it either But I understand a little bit of the feelings That the people are having That Alex is instilling in them

I think there's a function to that We'll get to that in a minute But before we do Alex has another guest This is a big day for him He should be covering this Martial law crackdown The shelter in place order He should be talking really at all

About the shoot out from the night before That was a big one That was a big day before Any of this stuff could be discussed Instead he has an interview with Art Acevedo The uh No, I mean the MIT police That's a perfect like there's another Patsy

That they're cleaning up You could toss it all in there Instead we're going to talk to Art Acevedo He has an interview with the chief of police of Austin Right, and here's how that begins Art Acevedo the Austin police chief Now in service to the Sith Lord Obama

Michael Moore as well as Bloomberg No, no, he's here, he's a really nice guy Even though he wants to confiscate my firearms You were saying during the break You don't want to take my guns, tell me about it Okay, that's why I need to come to see you I do not believe in gun confiscations Of law-abiding Americans

Of sound minds Every time you say that I challenge you on Twitter to show me Where I've ever said we should confiscate guns But you ignored me You did answer that because you will not find An article you won't find anywhere Well, I'll be honest, I didn't see the tweet

What's on your Twitter? I tweeted you, right? I follow you, Jones, and that's me I know, you plan to put me in a FEMA camp I never So this is ridiculous This is absolutely ridiculous And so

Jocular, it really makes It seem like all the things he's talking about are jokes That you're going to put me in a FEMA camp You're going to take my guns And Art Acevedo being like Look, dude, what are you talking about? It's just It's so deflating to Alex's

Positions I'm just, I Art, Art, God damn you He comes off very well You care so much and you believe in truth and reality And you should have known that the answer Alex was really going to give you From the beginning is

It doesn't matter, Art It doesn't matter if you say yes So I'm going to say you said whatever I'm going to do whatever I need to do So Alex got Mixed up with Art because He started Trying to get him to

Fight or something Trying to get him to This is Alex's tactic Get into the muck with me and then I'll pretend Then we can have a pretend Coming together Like he did with the sneaky snake with Joe Rogan He does this all the time

No, no, no, seriously, look, look I joked around because I know you flood communism in Cuba And said you ought to move back to Cuba Because you're, and I was I'm in a tongue and cheek, but you're adding to I had to like smoke you out to come down here and confront me I know you're not a chicken, you want to come down here and confront me No, I just want to get the record straight up

Even though you're like a karate champion here I better not challenge you to a boxing match like that bears Morgan You already did No That's very good I appreciate that, that's far funnier than Release the Kraken I understand that Alex has this like sort of

Confrontational strategy where he tries to get people To be lured into his net by Like hey, why don't you come and But I also think like if you understand That Art and his family did flee Cuba To the United States Like telling him to go Back to Cuba, there is

A connotation to that That is much deeper than like Hey, you love communism so much Or even just like It is a go back to where you belong What are you trying to say that Part of the motivation behind that is Believing that because you're non-white

You don't belong here, come on It's just about communism I don't think it's 100% that But there's tinges of it that make me uncomfortable The way that he's bullying people Is questionable I would say Alex asks about the

Boston bombing and the police response to it I think Art has a pretty good answer The bottom line is that what's going on in Boston Is they're looking for one more suspect as far as I know From the media reports They've asked the people In the entire city of Boston to stay indoors Would you ever do that in Austin

For like one guy? I don't want to be critical I don't know what we think is for one guy I don't know how all the information I'm sure they have good reason It would take a lot for us to tell the entire city Of almost a million people in the city of Austin To everybody staying indoors

And Boston's even bigger No, we're actually bigger I don't know relative city size I think that's a pretty good answer We don't know really what the situation is It appears to be a hunt for one person And it did end up being that But you can't be too careful

Or did it? This interview is completely pointless It's mostly Alex trying to bring up His gun talking points and art being Like I think the background checks Are a very reasonable thing for citizens to submit to It's not a huge deal There will not be any confiscation

I would never go along with that I've not heard anybody suggest that seriously In any way It's just pointless and along the way Alex keeps asking him to go shooting with him And Art is like, yeah, absolutely I'll go shooting with you He pulls out his giant 50 caliber

Now that's no good You can't just pull out a gun He's a cop I think it's actually against the law It's fine, it's not loaded So anyway, he just keeps trying to get him To commit to going to shooting with him Which he does, Art does over and over again

Says yes, I'll go And then Alex keeps teasing him that he's going to get in trouble For going shooting with him Let me ask you this, when are we going to go shoot the 50 cows? Let me know Any time I know that the Justice Department May not like that

You know what, I'm not worried about that I'm being sarcastic What about if your PR lady does not seem excited about it It's just nonsense Alex is kind of giddy that he's there Because I think that he hoped that he could Make a lot out of it And instead, Art is just a really nice guy

Not ever So now you have to switch into weird bullying And needling And being angry enough to actually give you what you want And Art is just like Exhausted by your bullshit Because you're a goddamn child I don't know if he's exhausted by it

But he understands what Alex is doing He's clearly at least aware of He's full of shit He does say over and over again I like you They're in the back of a fucking car And Alex is putting his hand two inches away from his face Going I'm not touching you

I'm not touching you I'm not that extremely perhaps But anyway, the interview is pointless It's not worth really getting into Except for the fact that it happened Which is weird So Alex now is back Art is gone

And Alex is just hitting this Killing the patsies narrative They've got Boston locked down To hunt down and get rid of the patsies That's what I believe is the most probable Scenario unfolding From the pathological behavior I've seen I think you're spot on

Yeah, sure According to Occam's imaginary razor That is exactly what must have happened We see this narrative completely Shifting over the course of this day Here on the 19th It's now all about blaming the Marines Or the Navy Seals, the military men

And the entire Lockdown is to sweep up loose ends And kill these patsies So that's interesting It's just developed over the course of the show As opposed to talking about anything real And I think the reason is because Alex knows the stakes are too high

Yeah This is a fucking Petri dish So we're now into the fourth hour of the show And What's interesting about this We're in overdrive And Alex is still taking calls And here's what one of his callers says

The reason I'm calling Is I was up all night listening to the police scanner And watching the news How things were unfolding Over at MIT There was a police officer shot As far as I know This is the first mention of that

In the fourth hour of the show A caller brings up the cop that was killed If Alex referenced it In passing and I missed it Maybe that's possible But from my listening to this That was the first time I heard this brought up Which is crazy

That's ridiculous Instead of really dealing with any of this shit Alex goes on to He's really excited to interview Dan Badandi Because why not So he has Badandi call in It's all just stupid about how it's scary Out there in Boston

But this is really what the interview is about Yeah, great job folks Pray for Dan Badandi I tell you I've done stuff like he's doing now But I've never done anything that big myself I've crashed some big press conferences And exposed Janet Reno from murder at Waco

And I've confronted Presidents who've been arrested And I've been I've done something but nothing Where it's a press conference On every TV in North America And most of the ones in Europe I mean listen

100,000 visitors A minute For hours To infowars.com 100,000 visitors A minute All roads lead back to publicity All roads lead back to his bottom line

That's like what Alex is saying Is not that Dan Badandi has done something That is actually In any way Substantively important What he's done is pull off a bigger stunt Than any I've been able to do in my career That's the subtext of this

This is like when a show Oh we got 2 million We made it to 2 million downloads Thanks everybody we couldn't have done this Without your help But instead of that second part they said We made it to 2 million downloads Because we lied about 9-11

Hey everybody thanks to all of you Fucking Christ So instead of dealing with the real issues Going on in the city of Boston And surrounding this bombing Alex Decides to spend a good amount of this fourth hour Complaining about Bill O'Reilly

Talking about it Bill O'Reilly talked about how Alex Played this Video from the Family Guy Sure And how it was edited out of context Right, Bill was like I wish we had done that first No, Bill is not like this

Bill is against what Alex is doing Right, because he wishes we had done that first Nope, I don't believe that's the case I know, I'm just kidding Maybe, but probably not But Alex is furious He's not furious, this is just more attention for him Bill O'Reilly came out and attacked Alex Jones

For Family Guy And Dan Badondi for asking a question And they only cover us when they could say We're lying And all we did was Watson did a blurb About a clip, he went and checked The original Family Guy thing It was two clips from the same episode

Showing how he runs over people to Boston Marathon, and they say how'd you do it How'd you win, and they chose him detonating two bombs He then goes on to blow up the Golden Gate Bridge Too And it's called Turban Cowboy A tea partier that joins Al Qaeda

That's the whole thing And they came out on the CNN Fox there and said We're just liars that it never happened I mean that's how dumb they think you are And of course that was just a minor blurb We put out, so they chose to focus on that That was not a minor blurb

That was a large part of his coverage That was a large part of the 16th, 17th 18th It's a very big Piece of Alex's Obsession, he brings it up even on the coast to coast Appearance

I've heard it many, many times And not just once from a small blurb Yeah, so anyway He plays the clip of Bill O'Reilly And I hate to say this, but Bill is right Here's the Bill O'Reilly clip Peter Griffin, Peter, how did you do it? The influence busted

Maybe I dialed wrong Now that didn't actually Happen on television That was doctored By some online pinheads They distorted that clip from the family guy Which is now pulling everything off the net Here to explain further, Julia Huddy

What do you think? You know the way people are It was so, I mean it's so ironic That that aired March 17 How could somebody do that? It's not ironic Hit pause and back it up Hit pause and back it up 10 seconds

So first they say it didn't happen Then she says it aired March 19th They show him Running over people To get to the front of the Boston Marathon and winning With piles of Dead bodies and blood everywhere And then they go, how do you do it?

And he detonates a bomb blowing stuff up And then he also blows up other stuff So our point is, it's about terror attacks With cars and bombs And then they sit there And say we're a liar Bill did not say That this episode didn't happen

And it didn't air He's saying that people didn't see that clip on TV Because it's edited Because it's doctored Alex is not engaging with Criticism That people take issue with Is taking the part of the bombs

And attaching it to the part about the marathon Is a distortion of What this episode was When Alex says he blows up the marathon Then blows up other stuff, that's not true The blowing up was other stuff And I hate to say it But Bill O'Reilly

Is He's on the right side of this one It just doesn't know the difference between irony And coincidence What can I say A bigger issue is that Bill keeps being like, how do they do this How do they edit video

He seems confused I've worked in television for 20 years How could somebody do this We know that he loves to do it live He does I don't understand Why it's confusing that people can take Video and splice it together

Anyway, Alex is really Furious about this And he's going to do it later Threatening Bill O'Reilly But before he does He gets to this point Which I think is central To a lot of his ideas

He's trying to explain Why there is this massive Conspiracy going on The globalists have committed Incredible amounts of crimes And they know they're going to end up going to jail If they don't fully take over That is a clip that could literally come

It's a constant refrain that he uses to convince His audience to accept outlandish conclusions Like this bombing was a big setup By the government One of the reasons that line he's selling Is about this being a giant conspiracy Why it's hard to accept for people Is because of the why

Most of Alex's conspiracies are presented As being really simple But on a closer analysis they would involve A staggering amount of participants So the question does seem to ask itself Why would these people all agree With something like this Whenever Alex needs to justify something

And he's running out of options His default is to say that the globalists Know that they've committed tons of crimes And whatever conspiracy he's selling That day is their only shot Of keeping themselves out of prison We've seen it over and over and over In the present day this is his explanation

For why the deep state is trying to get Trump impeached If they don't they're all going to prison Which is how he explains how wide ranging Is Alex's second purpose Which is to make every single conspiracy That Alex is selling his audience A matter of immediate life or death

If the globalists need to pull this off In order to make sure they don't go to prison For their many crimes then it stands to reason That if Alex and his intrepid team Could just bring the truth out on this one They might just bring down the globalists Once and for all Every half cooked theory

Every fantasy about a picture he finds on 4chan They're all elevated to nearly absurd Importance when they're framed like this And what's so crazy is that It's so consistent in his career Like I really thought some of this stuff Because we hear this a lot in more recent days I kind of thought that was a part of his

Increasing desperation in the post-2016 era But here it is in rosy Your times in 2013 He's just constantly fucking with his audience Trying to make them think like this is our shot Every single time and they fall for it Yeah it does appear Like

His imaginary world Is Unaffected By reality But it absorbs it No matter what's going on In the real world There could literally be a coup going on in the real world

But it wouldn't affect his imaginary version Of what that coup would be It would inform it His alternative bubble Reality adjusts Based on some information From reality But the main thrust of the imaginary

Universe Will always stay consistent Well Alex wouldn't say that they needed to clean up Patsies if there wasn't a Shelter in place request going on That he's incorporated in By now adding in the They need to go clean people up

But the bad guys would always be Willing to go clean people up Should events warrant it No matter what It's a trick And that's what I was referencing earlier When you said like why are these people Feel so intensely in

On this and part of the reason is Because Alex is selling it in such a way That they're led to believe that like If we can just pull this off If we can pull this off We might finally be rid of those globalists It'll be game over So anyway like I said Alex

Challenges Bill O'Reilly to a fight You are a piece of work Had me in studio with you because I've seen you Get like this with your other guests and stuff In fact I challenge you Bill O'Reilly to a boxing match Heard your dad used to beat the hell out of you Pretty good so I bet you're a tough guy

Jesus Christ That's fucked up That one's pretty funny I'm gonna give him that one I don't like Bill O'Reilly But the idea of mocking someone For like being the survivor Of childhood violence or abuses

Jesus Christ That's low Especially on the same episode Where somebody who he did Offer to fight was on earlier True he just does this Yeah he was like I'm not actually gonna fight you

That's banana That's part of one of the other like more subtle things I was trying to demonstrate that is Alex has patterns He needs attention from somebody who he believes Will be able to help him I'm gonna throw a tantrum And that way you'll pay attention

So Alex As we get towards the end of this episode He's gonna hand it off to Jakari And David Knight To do a couple more hours So we can keep that traffic coming in But he starts to realize that He's playing a dangerous game

His life isn't dangerous He's the most dangerous game He wants everyone to know That if he dies And if they do set me up Or kill me or anything I want you all to continue Info Wars I want my operation to continue

I want to Be able to just have them defeated Go out, confront them at press Conferences, confront them everywhere Take over the Info War, never back down Look They're not gonna stop us The only reason they haven't killed me

Believe they love to, they kill people all the time Is they know and probably turbo charge everything When they turn the nitrous oxide on The vehicle goes into Doubles its speed in mere seconds So whatever I'm so damn exhausted sometimes they come after me I don't even worry about it, I'll be like

Oh really, you're about to get me out of my work I'll never commit suicide though, I love life Yikes, that's a weird end to that clip Is that the end of the show? It's supposed to be That's supposed to be when he hands off the baton He does come back after that break You don't want to end your show with that

Sometimes I want to kill myself But I'll never kill myself Sometimes I want to kill myself, it's sometimes I would welcome death Because he's not doing it If the globalists kill me, sometimes I'm like, what are you gonna do? But I'm never gonna kill myself, I love life

I love life Let's all give it up for National Mental Health Week Everybody So that's how he's supposed to end the episode Because he's already said after this commercial break Jakari and David will be here He comes back from that break And he makes some

Interesting comments And if this is proven to not be a false flag Which I think is gone from 1% chance To maybe 5% chance I will eat my hat and apologize And be very pleased I mean, I would do cartwheels And probably go on vacation for a week

And run around Popping champagne bottles Because I really want to believe The government is not this evil Start doing them cartwheels, Alex So I assume that on our next episode He is going to apologize And he's gonna go on vacation

We'll see I guess he didn't say that You know, his Arguments about it being a false flag Are disproven, then he'll eat his hat He is saying you have to prove it's not a false flag Ooh So I guess you would never accept whatever evidence is presented to him

Because whatever evidence you have Is only evidence that it is more a false flag You just moved the goalpost So anyway, here's the last clip And he's sort of responding to a little bit of Insecurity That he didn't cover the shooting from the night before Yeah

And this is how he articulates it I woke up at 3am and went to the computer After I took care of a sick child At about 4am I got on the computer Headache from hell And I see people on YouTube going, why isn't Alex covering the shootout? Well, I went to bed at 9 The shootout started at

10.30 I got to sleep, folks, I don't have a 24 hour crew We're trying to hire more journalist Writers to work overnight And have a night shift I need money to do that Why didn't you talk about it earlier today? That's my question

That's a good question It's like, yes, absolutely, you do deserve to sleep There's no reason why you needed to cover That at 3 in the morning Or earlier than that I want to explain why it's almost not addressed At all on this episode My explanation is that I can only talk

About what is happening in this very instant It is impossible for me to talk about the past Or the future I have a very serious disease And Bill O'Reilly needs an ass kick Yeah, exactly I don't know what the fuck is going on I know that I suggested at the beginning of this episode

That it feels like He knows that it's too hot And if he behaves in his normal ways It's going to get a lot of people killed I think that there is a feeling That that is possible I don't know that that's the case Maybe he just didn't want to cover it

I mean, it really does seem like He could also have just kind of gotten bored And his attention span isn't very good I don't know So he's just like, I don't feel it It's no more, it's no fun doing the The old, they're setting up white guys For second amendment shit

Now they're killing hundreds of patsies Maybe hundreds, we don't know an exact number This is a great new fucking Development in this ongoing story I am somebody who listens to Loads of this bullshit And I'll say that this This episode felt very different

Than the 18th There is a shift in it And I have to, I mean The only real difference between What happened on the 18th And what happened on the 19th is Up until the end of Alex's show On the 18th the FBI hadn't

Released the suspect photos And the situation was abstract There wasn't concrete information And on the 19th There is an official story And it's an unfolding situation Where there's real serious Actions being taken

That's the only difference That I see in between the two And Alex's behavior is completely different Now granted he's still lying And making up narratives Before looking back to his narratives That he's already established And then pivoting some

Into it being about the seals They're cleaning up people It's not, it's just different I don't know exactly how to put my finger on it But it's fucking different It's like It's like you You write a play

With a specific actor in mind And they do the run for a good year And then the play Keeps going but the actor wants to move It's not going to be the same play You're putting a different actor Into a play written for this specific guy Or, or

You're taking this, they're coming for our guns play And you're throwing in navy seals And it's just not the same thing Or it's like reading a Poirot novel a second time Yeah, yeah, yeah The first time through there's ambiguity Who does it, yeah, yeah, yeah And then once you already know what the end is

It's kind of like Oh shit, so everybody killed him On the Aryan Express? What a cop out Fuck you! So I don't know I'm interested to see how this develops But I will say I'm slightly less interested Than I was about a lot

Of the other Boston Bobby episodes This feels much more like a normal Alex I think the fever has broken In much the same way as it has For the city of Boston Now on the 19th In the evening they end up finding So hard and there's the shoot out

With the boat and they end up Taking him in and I mean I know that Alex will probably Just return to his Kind of more normal conspiracy Bullshit behavior But this was an intense blip This was a real

Real fucked up a couple of Days this stretch of I mean I guess it's what a five day spam Four or five day spam from the 15th To the 19th has been a wild Ride on Alex's show He's been so irresponsible He's done about as bad

A job as he could While insisting he should have a parade And everyone should be so thrilled That he has broken the case wide open No one has ever failed as hard While thinking they deserve More It's literally

Flabbergasted I'm shocked I'm shocked that this Talked about more in terms of Alex Jones It is awe That I feel right now That you can do that stuff Because you would think any human

Being would have at least some Knowledge for him to Gaslight this level is awe inspiring Yeah and I mean like the stuff that he's doing With these pictures and all This stuff is It's behavior that a lot of the internet was engaged in But you expect that from the internet

Like Alex Jones is at least Pretending to be a news person Right Every time you remind me of that I'm always confused The behavior is way less becoming From someone in his alleged position But like I said

I'm shocked that more people don't talk about This stretch of time It's so bad You can really see the intention Of crafting a narrative that serves his purposes 100,000 views per minute And then you see the payoff You see the intention, the behavior

And then the goal achieved And then almost a disinterest Not a disinterest, I don't know if it's a disinterest I'm not sure exactly how to phrase it But he's gotten what he needs out of it Now he can return to his normal behavior Of spinning conspiracy Yarns and coming up with bullshit

Do you know what it is? He's post-coitus Yeah, the intensity is going Yeah, the little death That's what's going on right now Jesus So anyway, we'll be back With another episode on Wednesday But until then

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