Knowledge Fight - #366: November 5-6, 2019

Episode Date: November 8, 2019

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on the present day of The Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex wades around in a kiddie pool full of racism, then embarks on a two-day adventure of trying to reveal the name of a potential juror in Roger Stone's trial.

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George. Knowledge fight. Need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Stop it. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy and Kansas. You're on the earth. Thanks for holding us. Hello Alex. I'm a Christian color. I'm a huge fan. I love your world. Knowledge fight. Knowledge fight dot com. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm George. We're a couple dudes like to sit around to acknowledge the beverages and talk a little bit about Alex. Do indeed we are Dan Jordan. Jordan. Have you ever had an electrical appliance explode on you? I mean when my house burned down a few years ago when

I went back into the apartment like we were able to go and like see my oven head like exploded. Oh really. Yeah. That's the only like visceral memory. Yeah. You've never had anything like actually happen. I had a I've had a blender over like you know the float out the top of it because I was using it wrong. Yeah. The blow hole method. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't I don't know. I don't I don't think so. At least if I have it doesn't it doesn't stick out my head. Nothing like a man. I was because I had a toaster oven that my grandparents bequeathed me that was from that was made in like the 60s. And I used it two years ago. I just moved in with my partner and it just exploded. It just started up on fire. Everybody had like some experience like that like a TV exploding or

something like that. Not that I not that I could remember. If it did it didn't leave a mark on me. Right. Right. Right. This is not interesting conversation. So I'm going to pivot the subject I want to talk about. I think that's a good idea that recently I started playing the new Luigi's Mansion game. Why didn't I ask that question. Yeah. Got a lot of thoughts about it. I knew you had just gotten it. Damn it. Luigi's Mansion 3. Yeah. I started playing it one of the it's it's been very emotionally resonant I would say. Oh really. Well kind of. I mean it's very nostalgic because Luigi's Mansion was like one of the first games that I played as an adult on like video game systems because I played like Mega Man and the Mario games a Donkey Kong country all

fantastic as a youth. Yes. Then there was a little bit of a break from video games and like when the GameCube came out my buddies had it. Right. Luigi's Mansion was one of the launch titles and I fucking loved it. I loved running around with the vacuum sucking up ghosts. Yeah. It was a lot of fun and I wasn't able to play Luigi's Mansion 2 because it wasn't on a system that I had. Right. And so you weren't a make a wish kid. So you couldn't just. Yeah. Yeah. I was in any shape to get a 3DS. So I never like was able to play. I was like I heard the third one was coming out. I'm like I'm so excited about this. And so I got it. I'm playing it and I started to realize I mean it's very aesthetically pleasing. Oh no. Tell me you're having fun. Oh

absolutely. OK. OK. Good. I was going to say if this is a negative story I think I'm going to cry did you told me about Luigi's Mansion. It's fun. I'm enjoying it quite a bit. I'm trying to take it slow. You know like so I don't just play it in a day or two. Right. Right. Right. Not a lot of replay value in some games like this. Right. But it dawned on me as I was playing at the like man this is a lot about money. OK. You're going around this mansion that's haunted and you got to like suck up the ghosts and everything right along the way you're like banging on trash cans and like you know trying to vacuum up the walls because sometimes dollar bills will fly out at you in coins. I really know this is a gross. No. Super money interested game. Yeah. I remember the first

one kind of like at the end after you beat the game it rates you based on how much money and gems you found along the way and that that determines what size mansion you end up with at the end of the game. I am not looking forward to the Jacobin review of this video. I realize like this is I did like just kind of forgotten how deeply involved finances were in the game. And I was like this is a strange thing for a video game. But then I realized like all the Mario games you're running around collecting coins. Yeah. Of course. There is there is a deep. There's something weird about the dollar bill though. That is true. That's the weird and the like bars of gold. Yeah. Things that are. But I mean we have coins in the real world. Of course. There are direct analogs. Of

course. Of course. But the dollar bill is still weird to see in a video game. You're just not programmed for it. Well because I think that what you're thinking is like someone had to print these dollar bills. Well of course. But at the same time those coins have imprints on them right around catching it. You know someone print the I want to know. I want to know who's in charge of the Treasury and Waluigi game or Luigi's mansion. So far I've not run into Waluigi. I don't know if he's in the game but I think he needs to be perfect opportunity to throw Waluigi into the mansion. He's a fucking Stalinist. He's going in there. He's like money is for evil. It'd be interesting. That would be interesting. So anyway that was just a stray thought I had along the

way playing the Luigi's Mansion. I know a lot about Luigi's Mansion and a ton about Alex Jones and I don't know anything about either. And that's the fun we have on this here show that imbalance of information. So Jordan today we're going to be in the present. Yes. We'll be looking at November 5th and 6th 2019 because Alex Jones got Buck Wilde did some stupid shit. Yeah. I have I even haven't been able to avoid some of this. Yeah. It's pretty pretty much all over the news. As everyone knows Alex Jones revealed the name of someone he believes to be a juror in Roger Stone's trial. Right. Right. Right. We'll get into the dynamics of that. The legality questions surrounding it and why no matter what the situation is he's still fucking stupid.

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much. If you're out there listening and you're thinking, Hey, I enjoy this show. I'd like to sport with these gents. Do you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says sport the show. We would appreciate it very much lovely. So like I said, the big news we'll get to as we get to it that Alex Jones is trying to meddle in the affairs of the courts. Right. But I this is a classic thing on the info wars circuit. Right. Let's say of course that every time there is a big thing that Alex Jones does. Oftentimes if you watch the entire show, you find that there's like, Oh, there's a lot of number of other things you guys should probably should have pointed out here. Yeah. Yeah. There's a whole lot of things

that debatably are worse. Yeah. No, we've done that a few times where it's like, Oh, Alex Jones caught committing a crime. And then in the same episode, he starts peeing on a chicken and you're like, why isn't anybody talking about that? Well, A is llamas in the studio. Exactly. What are you guys doing? We're talking about the goddamn llamas. All right. And we'll see. There's a number of things that are like really important points in his coverage over the course of this that have nothing to do with Roger Stone's situation. But that's not to minimize the Roger Stone thing. That is absolutely important. You know, that's and like I said, we'll discuss it all. So we're going to start on November 5th here and Alex begins his show searching for the top story.

What is the top story? Okay. I don't know if I agree with where he lands. Ladies and gentlemen, I sat here this morning since I got here at 9am, pondering all the news, all the clips, all the guests, all the information we were about to be covering and just thinking what is our top story because it's more important than just what is the biggest news? What's the most interesting news? What out of this spectrum is most important? It's set in advertising. If you go with the world's view of advertising that perception is reality. Well, if you're on 10 hits of LSD and you think you can fly like a bird, you jump off a 20-story balcony and hit the concrete below, you're going to die. Now, your perception is that you'd

spread your wings like an eagle, like a phoenix, like a lark, like a crow. This is the man about to commit a crime on it. You just hit the ground and became buzzard food. That's the only birds we've got that are going to be feeding on you. Perception is not reality. What actually is and what works and what replicates and what succeeds is reality. Life is reality. The universe is reality. So his top story appears to be that there is an objective reality. That is big news. Boy, that was good stuff. Top story today, reality exists. That was good stuff, man. It's been a while. I needed that. I needed that. I was listening to that and I'm like, this show is not going to go anywhere good. If in minute one of his show,

he's like, where do I begin? Well, let's establish that reality is something that exists. Okay, good. So Alex gets from there. Now that we've established that things are real. Reality, unless you're taking LSD. Yes, but no, but then reality is still real, but your perception will be different than reality. So perception is not reality. But I heard him say that perception is reality. No, advertisers say that. You need to listen. I was stuck on the birds eating me. That's where I got into trouble. When the teacher is teaching class, the student listens. So Alex goes from there and he jumps to some stories that he's got about

cartel murders. There have been some U.S. citizens that were killed by cartel members. Right. The Mormon ones. Yes. Yeah. And Alex gets into this story and he believes that it's a cover up. And then I'm going to discuss what my initial theory was about that with the caveat that everything I'm about to say is not correct for you. At least nine people, including six children, were killed in an ambush by a Mexican drug cartel. And this happened in the northern state of Sonora. Police believe the attack to be a case of mistaken identity. Members of the cartel opened fire on a convoy of three SUVs that were part of the church of Latter Day Saints. There are 13 people missing as of news time. While no identities

have been released so far, a witness at the scene says some of the victims were his family members, including his wife's cousin, twins, six month old babies, an eight year old and a 10 year old. The national police and military forces are heading there to defend the area. Any update? So that's mainstream news trying to whitewash and defend what happened as it was being reported last night in this morning. Now they're having to admit, oh, it was targeted. They were targeted, including nine month old babies killed at point blank range after they were kidnapped. So when I heard him say that they were targeted, I 100% that he was talking about. There was a story in the New York Post that came out that discussed how this group, these Mormons that

were down in Mexico, they had connections to the Nixxiom sex cult. How? What? According to this New York Post story, quote, the outpost Mormon community in Mexico is where underlings of the Nixxiom cult leader Keith Rainier recruited young women to work as nannies in an upstate New York compound run by the accused cult. So the Nixxiom recruited Mormons. No, they use the Mormons to recruit young women in Mexico that would then be sent to upstate New York to work at this compound. According to the New York Post is reporting that and that information is coming from a man named Mark Vincent who was hired to make a documentary about Nixxiom. So I don't, I don't know how much he is a fully accurate source, but he certainly had some exposure to the group. That's wild, if true.

Yeah, I'm not entirely sure, but I thought that's what Alex was talking about. And like, I just sort of like, I expected that to be the angle he goes down and it's not. So I had this whole thing prepared about why that's stupid. And then I know I would just have to throw it out because that's not even at all what he's talking about. But when you start looking into the case, you see the, you know, that somebody is reporting this connection with the Nixxiom. Sure. Like that's gotta be where Alex has to have seen one thing there. And now we've got it. It seems like it would be a perfect way for him to tell this story. It's like you got to angle in here, but it's not. And we'll get to what it's actually about here in a moment. But after those

murders, Trump had a pretty strong, but possibly too aggressive response. He called on Mexico to declare war on the cartels to which Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador said, quote, the worst thing you can do is have war. We declared war and it didn't work. This is not an option. Yeah. I don't feel like I'm in a position where I can tell Mexico how to solve its problems. So I'm not going to try at the same time. I definitely understand Trump's response. And it's the sort of thing where you have to take it seriously when U.S. citizens are being killed abroad. Yeah, for sure. Now to the extent unless you are the ones killing them in which case, to the extent that he might be doing that selectively, maybe you could make an argument that

that's the case. But I don't really care to make that argument as a way to sort of like, ah, what about all these other people who were killed? Yeah, I don't I don't really know if that's a super worthwhile line to go down. Yeah, I don't really know what to stay here. I think this is an awful piece of news that's come out. And I don't particularly care to try and make it anything other than that. The tragedy that we need to be doing more to try and avoid having repeat, whatever the best strategy towards that is, I would say that probably having a all out war with a cartel is probably not the best strategy. I don't know. I've been alive for 32 years. And in that time, I can think of America winning every war that it started. I'm pretty sure that every

war that the United States has been involved in, they have completely won, right? Yeah, I think wars are smart. So I had I had that in my head that's like, oh, he's going to get into this nexium shit. Yeah, that's right in his wheelhouse. Then he starts talking a little bit more and I realize I'm fucking stupid. Oh, the Mormons got killed in a crossfire. No, if you watch documentaries about Mexico, a lot of Mormons went down there in the 40s and 50s and 60s to proselytize, you know, like missionaries do. And they won't pay tribute to the cartels. And they get killed. And there's been Mormon vigilantes, not this group in other areas, that support the towns and arm the people. And there's been documentaries made about it. So they were

targeted, but oh, brown people never target white people. Oh, God, that's, that's, yeah, that's, you're right. Because only white people ever do wrong. That's actually taught in the public schools in the universities. Whites are inherently evil. I completely blew it with my initial assumption of the nexium connection. You know what? That one's on me too. I was thinking he was going somewhere else and then now it's just too obvious. Just a fucking race. It's too obvious. Absolutely. I was like, holy shit, there are Mormon vigilantes. There's going to be a Mormon vigilante cartel war. We're not going to have to worry about getting the government involved. Nope. It's just brown people killing white. Great. Whatever. One day I'll learn my lesson

and stop trying to understand what he might be saying and just assume that it's all rooted in his deep white identity leanings. That's, I really need to learn that lesson eventually. You know, you just don't see it coming. I constantly give the benefit of the doubt that it's about something else. Right. Oh, no. No, right. No. Mormons didn't start going to Mexico to proselytize in the 30s. It was more like the 1870s. Many of them did go down there to do charity and missionary shit, but a whole lot of them also were running from the United States where polygamy was outlawed. Mormons have had a very healthy presence in Mexico for a long time. In 2014, they reported having 24 missions and 13 temples in Mexico with over 1.2 million members

in their congregation in the country. The issues related to the Mormon presence in Mexico is complicated and I'm not sure I can credibly discuss all of those issues. But what I can do is say that Alex has absolutely zero reason to turn this into a race thing. Even if everything he's saying is correct and that these people were targeted by the cartel because Mormons in Mexico have a history of standing up to cartels, that still has nothing to do with their race. It would maybe have something to do with their religion, but that's not really a fair assessment to say that all Mormons are white. While Pew Research put the number at 85% of U.S. Mormons being white in a 2014 release, the same is not true internationally. It's a pretty common thing

to hear from LDS folks that conversion rates in Europe and the United States are not growing. And one of the only things that's keeping the church alive is Latinx converts. And eventually, that will be reflected in the U.S. Mormon demographics as well. From 2000 to 2010, the number of Spanish language churches went from 377 to 760. It is a community that is massively Mormon churches. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What Alex is doing here is equating the Mormons of the victims of this crime with their whiteness, which is kind of a racist thing to do. He could make the argument that these people were targeted because they were Mormon Mormons who were disrupting the cartel's

ability to operate. And we could talk about that as a possibility. I'm not really sure if that's true. It possibly could be. I don't know. But as long as he's discussing that as a theory and not proven fact, I would probably just say whatever. Yeah. But that's not what he's doing. He's taking the argument that they were targeted because they were Mormons as definitively proven, then swapping out white for Mormon in order to take this story of nine murdered U.S. citizens and turn it into fuel for his white identity outrage cycle. This is disgusting. It's super disrespectful to the victims of this crime and honestly, a very clear example of how racist his mind is. Yeah. So Alex starts rambling around about free will existing. We now know

reality exists. And also as an offshoot of that, free will exists. And then he just starts talking some shit free will exist. And so evil exists because we have the power to make bad choices and rebel against God and God's creation and the laws of the universe. Now that said, Joy Behar is a piece of work. I don't tell this story to name drop or act cool. It's actually quite embarrassing. Joy Behar, I was on the view and I was bashing George W. Bush and the globalist because Bush was a globalist too. Once Obama got in that they got confused. They're so dumb. They think as I was bashing Bush and illegal wars and fake WMDs that I was a leftist. No, and then Obama came in and was even worse. Launch more wars and came after the guns even more. I mean

George W. Bush signed the assault weapons ban. I would have arguments in gun shops with conservatives that didn't even know that. Then she had me on her CNN show, a tape show that afternoon and hit on me. She's an older woman even back then. This was like 12, 13, 14, 15 years ago. She goes, oh, you're really good looking. You want to, what are you doing later? And she's really love what you're doing. I was like, you could tell this woman's had some fun in her life. And I wasn't attracted to her, but it was interesting to still have an older woman coming on to me like that. Very interesting. So anyway, Alex is mad that Joy Behar on the view said something to the effect of like, you know, Beto dropped out of the race. And so she's like, you don't tell people you're

going to take their guns. Wait till you're in office. That kind of thing. I understand why this would trigger Alex. Yeah. She's also a comedian. So she's not, she's not advancing specific policy as much as she is talking shit on the view. That's her job. Yeah. So but Alex thinks that she's straight up a think tank writing policy proposals that people just copy and paste. Of course. Of course. So he's offended at that. So he decides to get on air and say that she tried to fuck him. Man, you know, I, I know a lot of that type of dude that's like, Hey, what's name, name any person and they'll have like a story of like, Hey man, when I was, when I was back, she came on to me and was like, no, she did not. You rewrote that in your memory to sound like you weren't a dick.

It's a possibility that there's that rewriting that goes on, but it's also a possibility that like Alex just perceives that to be the case. Oh no, I think so. Like maybe every, every person is trying to fuck him and every man wants to fight him unsuccessfully. Yes, absolutely. So that's good. It's a healthy, it's this is a, this is a family show where Alex is talking about Joy Behar trying to have sex with her as a way of sort of invalidating her. Yeah. You know, that's also another element of it. That's really fucked up. Yeah. She doesn't have anything important to say because one time she came on to me. Yeah. So Alex gets into now talking about, he has like almost an entire segment of the show, you know, a whole break to break

rant about how we need to reach out to these brain dead people. Sure. These people who are against guns and we need to reach out to them. Okay. They're all fooled. Okay. And it takes us to a familiar place. All right. They've been inducted into a fraud. And as they get deeper and deeper, they get more frantic, more upset that the fake degrees aren't paying off. And the system isn't putting them in charge. They were supposed to be the ruling class, the priesthood. But instead, all they got with student debt, you've got to explain to them that they've been abused like someone that signs on to a Nigerian email scam. Oh man. And then more they get the first money and then the people don't want to admit they've been conned and they suck them for more money.

And it could be generate gambler. Sometimes people pay the Nigerians 10, 15 payments because once they're in $100,000, they don't want to admit they got conned to themselves or their neighbors or anybody else. They're in denial. I think evidence just keeps mounting that Alex fell for that email. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's the, I didn't even know you could go to more than two payments. I didn't, I never knew. I thought it was one payment. Then they went away. They'll come back. Yeah. That's weird. That's crazy. Also, Alex, I don't know if the Nigerian scam works in such a way where they do pay out the first, like the Nigerian, the people running the email scam, not that I understand. No, they give you that money, but then they're like, we need more

money. So what do you just send that money back to me? I don't know. It's very strange. Yeah. Whatever the case, I believe Alex was probably tricked by this 100. He is so singularly focused on it. Like there's a, there's a very, it's strange. Yeah. It's strange. Oh yeah. So Alex talks about those nine citizens who were killed in, in Mexico. And then there's another story about a New Hampshire couple that was found dead on like Padre Island. They were found buried in the beach and Alex is connecting these stories and maybe he shouldn't. The fact that a lot of tourists won't go to Padre Island now because hundreds and hundreds are coming up missing, including children. But the media tries to cover it up because it's hurting tourism. Well, it's all going to end up shutting

down anyways, like it's done in Mexico until we stop it. And so President Trump has declared war on it. That's how these deceptions kill people. They don't want you armed so you can't protect yourself. You know, if you're coming down from New Hampshire, I know it's pretty safe to go camping in New Hampshire. It's pretty safe to go camping in West Texas or East Texas or North Texas. You don't go camping a few miles from the Mexico border in one of the most dangerous areas in the world, unless you want to die. So let me give you a public service announcement. If you don't have a gun, get one and learn how to use it. And if your wife are going to be parked out in the dunes next to Mexico, you better have your door locked and you better have an AR-15 or ready to start

killing because there's a good chance you camp out enough times. They're coming and they're going to tie you up and they're going to get your bank codes off your credit cards and then they're going to put you down on your knees and they're going to squeeze a couple bullets in your head after they rape your wife in front of you. But it's okay because they're brown and you're white, devil. Isn't that sick? That is sick. Daddy, Daddy, you told me this was a family show. This is not a family show. Holy shit. So when Alex is talking about Padre Island, like I said, Cormac McCarthy, fuck off. He's talking about James and Michelle Butler, a couple from New Hampshire who were vacationing on Padre Island and were found dead, buried in the beach in Texas.

He's taken this story and is sort of combining it with the story of the Mormons killed by the drug cartel. And we have a unified story about Mexicans killing white people and the media covering it up. As for the media covering up the Mormon story, that's absurd. It's been reported literally all over the place. If Alex's complaint is that the media isn't reporting the story as being related to his fantasies of a race war, then I guess he's going to have to just deal with that. They have reported that the police have said that it's a mistaken identity situation. And even if the reporter suspects that that's not the whole story, they have journalistic, journalistic ethics to consider and uphold. Real journalists can't just throw around feelings and conjecture. Like,

hey, the police say this, but I personally don't believe it. That's Alex's job. I've got a hunch. Yeah. All right. In terms of the butlers from New Hampshire, Alex is very likely completely wrong about that story. The couple's bodies were discovered on October 27th. And as of the time of this recording, the case has not been fully solved. But on November 4th, police released pictures of persons of interest in the killing. They were caught on surveillance cameras when they tried to cross the border in the butler's car, which they had stolen. The driver of the car appears to be a Caucasian man who the police identified as Adam Curtis Williams when they put out a warrant for his arrest on the fifth. The warrant is for suspicion of felony theft. So it

might be a situation where they just suspect him of taking the car. But that's it seems unlikely that in this case, the theft and murder wouldn't be related. Oh, look, free car. But who knows? Yeah. I don't know what is going on for sure. I don't know that this Williams character is the murder person suspect, but it does seem pretty well established that he was photographed in the butler's car after the murders heading for Mexico. Man, you know what that means? It has nothing to do with where you're from. It's where you are. The border makes people kill Dan. It has nothing to do with their fucking ghosts. They're possessing people around that area. I would like to remind you perfect sense now. I would like to remind you the perception is not real.

Okay. All right. Well, I've got a hunch though. So what what's going on is there's zero evidence that this is a case where there is a Mexican perpetrator. Right. Right. Right. That's something that Alex is entirely imagining based on his feelings that there was violence done against white people in the vicinity of Mexico. So it must have been done by Mexicans. This is a pure expression of his overt racism and a case where available evidence directly contradicts his racist assumptions. By the time he's on air here that we're listening to it's the fifth and the photos of Williams driving the butler's car had been released the day before. This is entirely unacceptable for him to be getting on air and agitating like you know it's fine because they're brown and you're

white devil. This is explicitly deeply racist. It reminds me so much of I can't remember but it was a I was pretty sure it was something by Faulkner where the guy is just reading the morning paper and there's just like a man still on the loose thing and he just turns and looks and he said probably an N word and then just moves on and you're like yeah that's that's racism right there. You've got no information. You're just like yep this this supports my race even worse because there is information available and if you knew anything about the case you should know that there is a suspect who's wanted that the police have put out a warrant for by the time he's on air like he has every reason to not have these narratives. The reality is not perception Jordan.

That's his top story. Yeah. That there is a reality. Yeah. Unfortunately he's just trying to create a racist perception. It's the reality that I perceive though. Okay so that rant I believe is profoundly racist. Yeah. Here's what happens directly after it. And they're going to squeeze a couple bullets in your head after they rape your wife in front of you but it's okay because they're brown and you're white devil. Isn't that sick? But don't worry the cartels rape the poor Hispanics as well and everybody else to get their hands on because the evil is spreading. Is that and we're here fighting ladies and gentlemen because of your support but I gotta know we're supporting you. We're in this together and info is just proven. We're dedicated. Thank

you and our backing down and I want to encourage everybody to go to info or store.com right now and get great supplements and great products you already need. Storewide free shipping double Patriot points forty to seventy percent off. Gross. Yep. The cartels evil is spreading and they're going to rape your wife and then shoot you and it's fine because they're brown and you're white because they're brown and you're white devil. Please go to my story. I'm gonna need some more money. Yeah. He's like a coin operated racism machine. Yep. So Alex starts complaining about how these these proud boys you recall those two proud boys got sentenced to four years in prison. Yeah. Yeah. For committing all their crimes. Sure. Alex is pitching the narrative that they were

just defending themselves against Antifa and that's not fair at all based on again reality which is not perception. Yeah. We have Alex is operating off of and it doesn't we've had hundreds upon hundreds of Antifa quote people arrested and nobody's being charged and they've barely arrested anybody but everybody that every proud boy and all that should have done to hard time. Whatever the case is Alex has found out that this judge in that case he's he's been involved in other cases too. Oh do you believe it. What. This isn't just a fresh judge. What did he fight another judge. He did not know no judge fights. OK. But he did try another case that Alex thinks indicates that this guy is up to no good. And you've got the very same judge who gave the

proud boys all these years in prison gave an admitted convicted pedophile in New York almost no time in jail. Here's an example right here proud boys sentenced to four years in prison for attacking protesters rolling stone doesn't call them Antifa that came there to attack them that followed them and that threw waters of bottle at them and they defended themselves knowing how it's protesters. Oh they attacked free speech people that was Antifa trying to stop their free speech total inversion. The same judge who had choice words for the proud boys gave the Orthodox Jewish man who admitted he had sex eight times with a little boy. He gave him basically no jail time even though he admitted it all. To get this said right up top

nothing I'm about to say should be interpreted in any way to mean that I think that this Orthodox Jewish man what he did was not as severe as what the proud boys did. I'm not interested in grading horrible things on some kind of an evilness scale like Alex is. I think they're both awful. That Baruch Leibovitz received a lesser sentence than the proud boys and that has to do with the fact that the proud boys pled not guilty and were found guilty which will always result in a longer sentence for you. The two proud boys who were found guilty were sentenced to four years in prison but they weren't the only proud boys arrested after that gang fight in New York. Two of them took plea deals and only received community service. Others pled guilty and received sentences ranging

from 40 weekends where they were released to go to work during the week and all that up to three months in prison like the people who cooperated and were like yeah we were in a bucket we were trying to start a riot. Generally speaking admitting your guilt to a crime you definitely committed is seen as a sign of possible penitence. It's often interpreted as an indication that you're on your way toward making amends for your misdeeds and from a societal standpoint it's in everyone's best interest to support that kind of behavior. In reality Baruch Leibovitz accepted a deal where he pled guilty and was sentenced to two years in prison. He'd already served 13 months so most estimates say that he's only going to be in prison a further three more months. This could

be interpreted as a three month sentence but in reality it's a two year sentence which had already been about half served. I don't know enough about the Leibovitz case to comment on it really at all whether or not he should be in prison longer but I know enough about these two stories to tell you that the reason that the Proud Boys got slightly relatively longer sentences is because they took their chances on a trial and blew it. That's all that's going on here. Alex is trying to turn it into a thing where this judge is like haha I love pedophiles and I'll let them go but fuck the Proud Boys and that's just not the case. Also I'm not entirely sure if the judge was the one who determined the sentences. I'm not entirely sure if it wasn't the thing where

the prosecution requested this. Yeah yeah well that's possible. So I don't know but whatever the case Alex is just making shit up. I have no interest in any right wing arguments about sentencing disparities. They're often ring false. Yeah. So I don't know if you know this Jordan but climate change. What about it? I know that. Is in full recession and we're finally getting back to normal. You don't know anything about this. Fair. That is true. Climate change is not real. Okay. It is just a ploy in order to get carbon taxes. We all know that. Hey my brother told me that Obama bought some property in Florida so we all know that. Alex has talked about that a couple times. Yeah. But climate activism just about carbon taxes. Absolutely. We know this. This is a consistent

piece of Alex's rhetoric. All we have been for a very long time. You got it. Now what's interesting is if you pay attention to this clip Alex takes some of his long standing rhetoric and completely changes it. Climate activism will make you less lonely says junkies.com telling leftist who are the most alone and stupid and unhealthy and highest rate of suicide. I'm sorry. Are you quoting junkies.com? Yeah. All right. Just go out and protest for carbon taxes globally. Pay to the world's richest who are all exempt and that'll save the planet. So how does this tie to the pedophiles where if you're the globalist pedophile rings and you're involved in all this. How are you going to sell the public on letting them track everything you do with AI and tax you for every movement you make

and then exempt themselves as sabers of the planet. Well they're going to pose as sabers of the planet and that ties in Jeffrey Epstein. Billionaires tried to shrink world's population report says Wall Street Journal 12 years ago 11 years ago a group run by Michael Bloomberg Ted Turner Oprah Winfrey George Soros Bill Gates David Rockefeller run by Jeffrey Epstein. He ran the group a secret world government group to save the planet. Oh I don't want to put too fine a point on this but I've heard Alex talk about this very same group of globalist billionaires for years now. They were definitely discussed as far back as end game which came out like 2007. Yeah. In every incarnation of this narrative the group has been Oprah Bill Gates

Ted Turner the Rockefellers sometimes Soros when he realized I got to yell about this guy. He's the Y in Val's. Sometimes Bloomberg. He's not always included. Bloomberg has always seemed like an afterthought whenever he's added Bloomberg. It depends on what stage of his rhetoric he's in but it's always Bill Gates Oprah Ted Turner and David Rockefeller. It literally has never involved Jeffrey Epstein. This is a completely new part of the narrative that Alex is adding because he knows that Epstein conspiracies are fucking hot right now. Yeah they're the summer's new winter. I don't know who was and wasn't connected with Epstein but I do know a whole lot about what Alex Jones has said in the past and he never said that Epstein was involved

with this group much less running it until very recently. Yeah of course. This is a very similar behavior that we've seen throughout Alex's career. He'll take hot topics from current events and he molds his rhetoric to suit them and pretend that he's always been on this case forever. He's definitely been yelling about this group. He insists is dead set on depopulation forever. So if you look into it you'll find that he did talk about them a bunch but he's completely changing the story now. I've searched through the archives of Info Wars and Prison Planet and there are zero stories that include the words Jeffrey Epstein on Prison Planet before January 1st 2016. Yeah of course. And there's only one on Info Wars which is just a 2015

London Examiner article that they've reposted. If Alex knew about him as being the big player in the globalist machine he sure as shit didn't seem to have left much material behind reflecting that on the website. That Wall Street Journal article Alex is citing doesn't mention Epstein at all. One of the sources for that Wall Street Journal article is another article in The Times of London which also doesn't mention Epstein but does tell us that the host of that meeting was Sir Paul Nurse who is a Nobel Prize winning biochemist. Putting it very bluntly Alex is just making this shit up. What Alex is doing is a cynical exploitation of a horrible story. He's taking a story that is very suspicious and twisting things so the suspicion matches

his own narratives in an attempt to reinforce his self touted ability to be 10 steps ahead of the globalists at all turns. And I find this behavior disgusting. Yeah in better times I think this would be more fun. Yeah like in bed like this has all the classic like this is the conspiracy theory kind of situation where it's like see and then you know that it's this guy and then of course and it's all run by Epstein who we just saw suspiciously died and that's my slam dunk and in 2010 we're all like ha ha ha you're crazy. If it's a friend in your smoking weed on beanbag chairs it's a little annoying but kind of fun. Yeah but now we've reached the logical conclusion of mainstreaming this kind of dumb conspiracy theory shit and this is yeah it is

not fun. It is it used to be something that would be fun and now it's like you pull out one of these conspiracy theories and the next thing you know six people are dead and you're like Jesus fucking Christ. So in this next clip Alex brags about his courage. He's a brave boy. He is not. He's a very brave boy. He's a coward. And he discusses how he had a moment of ecstasy that morning and I think he says when he ran away from his problems. No I think that he has a little moment here that reinforces some of the theories that I've been putting forth. Let me tell you I have something beyond courage and I'm not saying that to act tough it's not courage it's I'm driven to fight these people and I'm angry if I'm not doing enough and I never get rest I never feel

any satisfaction just more more get them get them get them get them the Holy Spirit pushing me this morning about 8 30 I had like 10 minutes of ecstasy just envisioning their defeat and knowing we're going to win and just the Holy Spirit was so strong saying good good good now we're getting where we're supposed to go because you don't care any what happens to you now and you're totally committed and you know we're going to win and you're calling on my power to come down into the earth through the people and they're doing it and tell them to do that more that's what you're supposed to do Jones tell them to call on the Holy Spirit and on Jesus Christ the intercessor to God and we will defeat these Satanists you're on the right track Jones you're going to be a

preacher oh okay oh all right I thought he was going to re-record ready to die by a biggie but apparently not no he is going to be a preacher that sounds great I don't know how much to put in uh put steak to put into that like that could just be him riffing yeah but you know we have seen pretty strong indications that Alex is becoming while he's always been religious way more way more religious um and it does seem to look like hey maybe he would be wise to pivot this into a completely religious grift as opposed to these made too much trouble in the conspiracy and politics worlds I think it's time for him to bail yeah it it seems like you should hit that ripcord and try and scam on that level and as we know with Jim Baker you can go away you gotta go away to come

back you gotta go away to come back yeah totally he can do it he could do it yeah and and when he says stuff like that like yeah you know God is pushing me forward yes Jones yes you're going to be a preacher yeah I have a difficult time knowing whether I should interpret that is like hey what's coming is I'm going to start grifting religiously yeah or if it's just like hey whatever you're doing now is preaching yeah I'm not sure which it is but it's the most clear demonstration I think so far that Alex sees himself as a religious leader yeah yeah you know absolutely he has talked about that in the last couple months too he like uh God is telling me to announce my leadership role right and think so I don't know it sounds it sounds more to me like when he says preacher he

means it in the like biblical prophet that kind of like you're the announcer of my words not not necessarily a pastor yeah there's some of that but it's hard to know for sure right we'll see how it develops it could be both yeah so Alex is uh he's gotta be in his bonnet that how everyone is afraid of devil worshipers uh but he's not and then he starts what he starts graphically talking about murdering his enemies oh okay great and it scares the daylights out of them that people are fighting back yeah not everybody's just a sellout to evil not everybody backs down to threats not everybody's scared of you devil worshipers we're actually scared of ourselves in our desire to stop you we want to make sure we spend our will and our blood and our energy and our force

making sure we eradicate your system we don't want to just slit your throats we don't want to just beat your head in with baseball bats um we don't want to just run ice picks in your eye sockets give you a lobotomy a street lobotomy we don't want that we want to get your spirit off this planet and out of our universe we want you to go be with your own satanic forces we want you out of our world we want you out of our lives get behind me satan i i just i i don't know how he classifies his enemies but this is exterminationist talk like i don't know what was that all democrats eradicate democrats from the world well everybody everybody knows that every democrat is a devil devil worshiper he's pointed that he said it over

and over again he said it in the past so all people who believe in globalism that he called you know which is a real thing as opposed to the globalists which is his imaginary enemies right everybody who believes in like a globalism as a market strategy yeah well you got to get rid of eradicate them from the earth get behind me any what i i mean when you talk about killing your enemies and stuff like this you notice he's also not saying politically no no we're past that yeah yeah that the day of that is gone when you talk about killing your specific political enemies it's incredibly fucked up and totally irresponsible when you start getting into it as classes of folks that need to be driven off the earth we need to get rid of this from the earth you are in it in a

territory that i i read what was it in that new yorker article he was talking about w clion scousen and it said that he was uh that people were concerned that he's his rhetoric was getting dangerously close to nazism and i would say that you're getting dangerously close to some ideas that are abhorrent and we just you know you can't you can't allow you can't have that kind of mentality where you need to eradicate your enemies from the earth yeah like because especially and i know that he's not saying that all of his enemies are jews right he's not saying that but we've talked many times about the ways that he classifies and characterizes his enemies relies largely on a lot of anti-semitic tropes from history whether it's the ideas surrounding the

blood libel or things that he's cribbed directly from the protocols of the elders of zion when you have that in addition to we need to eradicate people from the earth you kind of gotta recognize that some people who are listening are going to hear that a particular way whether that's your intention or not whatever extremists you have in your audience may hear that as a call for ethnic cleansing on some level yeah you know i don't know so when when we talk about dangerously close to abhorrent i think we're already there i it for some reason it seems weird that it's less offensive that it's less targeted do you know what i mean like because he was specifically targeted that we'd be having a completely different conversation well if he was saying the jews then

that's fucked up he wants to kill this specific subset of the population but his actual rhetoric kind of translates to him wanting to kill 75 percent of the world or something so it does kind of imply that because they're like non whites and you know like there isn't a strong popularity for his ideas no no so the people that would end up being classified as his enemies would be a lot of people pretty much everybody so that is a problem so it is it is like somehow it feels less abhorrent because he's an equal opportunity wants to destroy the whole fucking planet right there is there is some of that but i think it's also you know you can't lose sight of the fact that because of that sort of vagueness because of the broad and you know open to interpretation

aspect of it right you run the risk of whatever your audience is bringing to the table that confirming something really bad in them oh absolutely so let's say it's somebody who hates mexicans you can be like wow mexicans are devil worshipers sure it's not my fault have you seen their halloween or whatever maybe that's their christmas i don't know or you could be someone who's really opposed to taxes i have you seen the government they're devil worshipers have you seen their halloween or christmas i don't know which one it is and then you could confirm the belief that we must eradicate all of these it's just irresponsible whenever whenever you have a platform like this you need to be very mindful of the things that you express and when you're expressing we need to do

more than kill these people we need to wipe them off the earth you have you can't talk like that i don't i don't understand how i mean i understand how i don't i don't get like the person that can say in terrorizing you like hey they're going to rape your wife in front of you and then shoot you in the head twice and then not find himself being the bad guy in the i don't want to just bash your brains out with a baseball bat i don't want to just kill you i don't want to just do that like you're the bad guy well it's because you know it's because his worldview is so such an underpinning of it is the constant defensive violence everything that he wants to do it only is retaliation reality retaliation gives me carte blanche to do anything bingo

yeah i understand that it's nonsense so alex also has james oakheaf on the show on the fifth to talk about his big new scoop but honestly it's a very short drop in and it's just alex begging for more details about what james has coming up and james saying eh stay tuned he's not giving him any yeah yeah not even a teaser it's well it's kind of a teaser but in the sense that there is no information it's more or less just a commercial for project veritas and james is such a fucking piece of shit i don't have any clips of them and i don't care recently project veritas released a video of abc news's amy robach saying that she had interviewed epstein victim virginia roberts in 2015 but that abc didn't let the story go to air the way this video is presented it lends the appearance

of the people at abc were trying to squash the story and that this was a cover-up it's easy to come away with that impression but if you're listening to this show then you should know by now no matter what you are a sucker if you believe project veritas after the video was released robash clarified her comments saying quote i was upset that an important interview i had conducted with virginia roberts didn't air because we couldn't obtain sufficient corroborating evidence to meet abc's editorial standards about her allegations by comments about prince andrew and her allegation that she had seen bill clinton on epstein's private island were in reference to what virginia roberts said in that interview in 2015 i was referencing her allegations not what abc news had verified

through our reporting the interview itself while i was disappointed it didn't air didn't meet our standards in the year's sense no one has ever told me or the team to stop reporting on epstein i can't tell you how many people i saw who i thought knew better retweeting that shit and saying well i guess project veritas got one right it's incredibly depressing that people don't recognize the bad faith actors aren't suddenly doing the lord's work because they're saying something that's closer in line to what you want to believe or what you think is right or accurate project veritas lies that's what they do it's their entire business model right wing agitation based on taking things out of context to conform to a narrative i know that everything around

epstein is very suspicious and further competent investigations and reporting has to be done on that story that is just never going to come from james oakief there's another aspect to this that deserves mention and that is that james oakief doesn't give a fuck about the epstein story he's doing this to attack the media this entire thing is about attacking the institutions that have rightly excluded him and talked about how he's a lying manipulative shill for right wing billionaires ever since he and andrew breitbart got together nothing about what he's doing brings anything new to the epstein story literally the only thing that comes out of this is trying to attack the media that is all he cares about also the stories that robach was uh describing were already

reported prior to her shelved interview by gawker you might remember that gawker was destroyed after a lawsuit brought by hulk hogan which was paid for by fuckhead libertarian billionaire peter teal probably not important to point out that peter teal is given james oakief a ton of money as far back as 2009 the very person who funded a lawsuit to put out a business one of the first media organizations that covered the epstein story is also one of james oakief's early backers life's weird so fuck all this shit i don't care about james oakief and his nonsense yeah what was it we we talked about it on that day and it was basic it was like why would i don't listen to anything that they say ever ever at least ever at least don't take it at face value i i i just i

will if there is anything that they have to say then uh it will be filtered through a outlet that has fucking yes standards so why would i listen to them yeah you can nothing they have to say is worthwhile i i hate to say something like this but they have certainly deserved it uh or or earned the reputation um you can just write off whatever you can just write off them yeah you can ignore project veritas and if any information is in any way relevant some other outlet that has uh you know independent streaks to it yep will cover that story better and with actual confirming uh it's just it's it's a trash fucking outlet and you know that because every time he comes out with a scoop he goes on fucking info wars to talk about it yeah you need any more proof that he's up to no good

right he's fucking hanging out with this white identity shit bag agitator yeah and that idea of like oh well he got one this time like in what world does he pitch a story and then follow it through with reporting like there's no it is purely here is what we are going to say find us a way to say it that sounds right yeah it is never going to be he accidentally stumbles on to good reporting so alex jumps off from this topic and he gets to hey another race story that he's fucking completely lying about well we knew it was coming it's on info wars dot com and news wars dot com and it's so incredibly important and i'll get to in the last segment of this hour uk national health service to deny treatment to quote racist and sexist they control the jury of

the leftist mob and media they call you something no good process even if you were that you shouldn't lose your rights and now you can starve to death on the side of the road no bank accounts no jobs no health care no welfare i'm going to start off by saying that i'm not sure where i land on this story entirely it's definitely not what alex is saying it is but it does raise some moral questions that i'm not sure i have the perfect answer for the way alex is describing the story he's pretending that some board of leftists are going to accuse you of being a racist and then when you go to the hospital with a broken arm they'll pull up your file and say sorry we don't treat racists and that's not even close to the reality i feel like if we do have that though we should get to wear robes

like full on like leftist overlord oh yeah absolutely this is not close to the reality which again is not perception this is a story about the north bristol trust a company that services hospitals in bristol launching a new program called the red card to racism in the program if a patient is being abusive to a staff member in a racist or sexist way they'll be given a warning and a yellow card if they refuse to stop being racially abusive they'll get a red card and if it's safe to do so at that point they will withdraw from providing treatment for this patient the program grew out of a large spike in racist abuse being thrown at staff at the hospital and a recognition that no one should have to work in that sort of environment

i definitely support that and i think the program isn't super bad given that there's a warning system and the fact that they won't withdraw services if doing so is unsafe for the patient if a patient like needs a breathing tube they're not going to jeopardize that person's health because they're a racist if but if you have like a sprained wrist and you won't stop yelling racist shit they're going to claim their space and refuse to provide service yeah you've got a breathing tune it's really hard to shout racial slurs well or if you're on a like a defibrillator or a pacemaker if it's unsafe for them to withdraw services they can't do that in critical condition they're going to keep doing that of course i'm torn because my gut tells me that the medical workers should not

make judgment calls about who should they should help and who they should not but that's kind of based on some idealized feelings i have about the profession at the same time the more i think about it these nurses and receptionists and doctors they're human beings not unfeeling healing robots if racist abuse is a problem that's reaching the point where it needs to be addressed at this bristol hospital i feel like i would be shitty for my argument to be that these doctors should suck it up and deal with it because their profession has a higher calling if this were a thing where people who are known racists so like let's say david duke that they were being denied care even though he acted politely at the hospital i think i would be against that but this program as it's

laid out what ends up happening is solely based on the patient's behavior and i think that's okay yeah i think that's all right uh i mean if you're a server and your table is hurling racist abuse at you there are so many places that won't allow you to say a goddamn word right you know and i think you should be able to do that yeah absolutely right and absolutely there is a difference between a hospital and a restaurant there but people are still the same people who work yeah so you're gonna get racist abuse shit on at you that's why you should be able to stop it that's why i'm super conflicted because on on a human level i agree with that a hundred percent but there are some lingering feelings about like the Hippocratic oath right and all of that stuff

yeah but i think i think that that doesn't apply i i i'm i'm on the side that i think that if there was no warning yeah if they could risk your life by withdrawing treatment because you're racist yeah i would feel very uncomfortable with this but the way it's set up i think i don't know i think it's all right and whatever the case is even if i have some sort of like uh uh mixed feelings about it that air on the side of being in favor of it yeah it has nothing to do with what alex is talking about right the way he's presenting the story is completely dishonest based on his perceptions right as opposed to reality and i like i i wish more comedy clubs would institute the red card policy that'd be nice yeah man two two strikes and you're out that's perfect yeah so

it's november fifth sure uh roger stone's trial is starting that day yep and alex has a roger stone associate named jacob engels on to talk about it joining us is jacob engels of central florida post we're gonna get one of roger's lawyer's on who's able to speak uh tomorrow pilar nixon that does not end but today we've got jacob engels who's been there we can also roll some video while he's speaking for tb viewers of roger arriving at court today also folks were bullhorning there that roger stone did nothing wrong full disclosure i believe that i have interacted with jacob engels on twitter before oh yeah one time i was watching one of alex's marathons and i was getting pretty drunk while i was doing it sure so i decided to start tweeting out some commentary okay one of the people

who came on alex's marathon was jacob engels who was just there to talk about how roger stone is great i have no idea what i tweeted at him but and i didn't tweet at him i didn't add him it was just his name so he had to have name searched right right and about one what a surprise that he would name search by the way yeah about one minute after his segment ended i got a response from him it was surreal it was like the tv talking back to me anyway i can't find our tweets but i don't remember them being too heated or uh anything i i don't have any like real memory of it being like oh my god this is fucked up yeah i probably can't find our tweets because he got kicked off twitter after he posted some islamophobic nonsense uh and now he's listed as a writer for laura loomer's

website so things look like they're going pretty great oh boy well at least uh you know grant hill isn't gonna shut that one down uh he's also probably a member of the proud boys no this guy sucks boy anyway he is on and this is where the bomb shell gets dropped okay we got there today early ahead of roger's trial to welcome him give him strength give him love and he went in and immediately one of the first jurors and jury selection was an obama communications director appointee whose husband works in the deep state and what did the corrupt obama era judge say that that person's political background and service in the obama administration and her husband's service in the intelligence community had no bearing on their ability to be

objective this is a sham witch hunt show trial excuse me uh we didn't talk before you came on i followed a lot of your coverage but missed the last few hours you're you're telling slow down and repeat that alex is completely caught off guard by this alex has no idea what to do wait wait wait start from the beginning hold on hold on in the beginning was the word begin there and then catch me up in a few years yeah so this is news to alex and he does not know what to do with it oh boy she is allowing an obama era white house communications director to be a juror whose husband works in the deep state intelligence community wow you were there can can you tell us the name or is that gagged uh you're you're not allowed to say the names of the individual um but

all i can tell you is it's washington dc 97 percent of the district of colombia voted for hillary clinton so this is the jury that roger stone is going to be facing small point hillary got 90 percent of the vote in dc in the 2016 election i mean it's still a high number but i have no idea why these guys can't just get anything right even when the correct number still makes their point still ridiculously high yeah it's like they're pathologically driven to escalate things they just can't stop it couldn't be it couldn't be 90 percent it has to be 92 percent yeah just can't be the right number yeah so alex is immediately like we got to fucking figure out who this person is why don't they just have robert mueller as the jury or or or hillary clinton you're saying

obama white house communications director well let's look up the names of who those folks were holy mackerel oh no that's not good no but you can see that's his immediate instinct is oh boy let's fucking his immediate instinct is i'm going to sick my info wars people on her and she's going to die well i mean we can say that pretty confidently or at least that's what he wishes to happen yeah based on all the context we have from his prior behavior how things have happened in the real world um you know i don't i don't find yeah any plausible argument that he's not trying to intimidate somebody no i'm or at least tamper with the jury somehow uh we're we're coming off boston fucking marathon him jumping into a story and releasing a picture of somebody who's

not involved within seconds of course this is going to happen it's going to be a nightmare yes now whether or not you could prove in court that he's intending to intimidate is another issue i think that i can confidently say it from my feelings and my experience of studying alex that that is exactly what he's trying to do yes yeah but in court i think you'd have a much more difficult time proving that intention i think in a jury of your peers you would do just fine if it was you'd be all right there was 12 dance if there were some daniels yeah wow that would be rude so uh angles wants to you know he's talking about how there was a bunch of people there to support roger and i just think that this clip is really funny because alex has to interrupt

angles to go to break um but then he gets cut off by the break there's just a series of interruptions that happen at the end of this clip that i find pretty funny by the way no communist or any or alt left protesters there were only people there supporting roger a multiracial group of people from all across the country who came out to show stone that he has love and he has support and track of angles the reporter that roger stone trust to cover the trial for him or we come back to you joy bayhar went on national tv and said we're gonna lie and get in and then take the guns just like this judge to the first jury they bring for would you like to get back that full head of hair from years past it's insane he has no idea how to handle this story that's dropped into his

lap so he has to go back to the joy bayhar talking point and then he just has no timing so he gets cut off by the break i love it that's fun yeah so he gets back and here's how he introduces jacob engels jacob engels respected long-time reporter central florida post roger stone's friend he's been here to visit us in studio the central florida post is a name that sounds like a newspaper it really does i should tell you that it is definitely not okay it is a blog that jacob engels runs which he named that way so people who didn't know any better might think it's a newspaper yeah here are some of the out the headlines currently up on the home page of the central florida post poop tastes good quote fake news outlet orlando weekly is going broke oh weird everybody in

this world hates the media quote american priority conference hosting trump jr and matt gates this one's basically just a press release for an event at trump's doral property quote disney profit increases upset theme park socialists no idea what that one's about i did not click on the link oh this is a blog good for jacob for having some motivation and follow through i respect the hustle of naming your blog something that sounds like a newspaper but i can't give this a pass he used the term theme park socialists in a headline yeah this is not a serious album come on theme park social theme park social haven't you seen those theme park socialists every time i go to a theme park i'm like oh get these goddamn socialists out of here so alex uh is he's had the break to try and

gather his uh you know his marbles and uh now the the story is that this juror had been selected for the jury there we go now it's now it's fantastic it's not true of course it's not but this is how how it goes and he just laid an incredible bombshell on us one of rock obama's former communications directors at the white house has been chosen as the first juror and the judge this music is dramatic as shit such a circus the judge is appointed by obama and now the first juror and the day's almost over there so if your standard for who can preside over a case as anybody who was appointed by obama is invalid yes that's a fucking bullshit standard no no anybody appointed by obama is invalid you'll never get a fair trial out of a judge

appointed by obama it's it's a nonsensical uh standard of jury of your peers impartial judge whatever well you can't get a clinton judge either oh no because because the roger stone doesn't like it w bush judge no you can't no no i mean i suppose you could get a reagan judge maybe not probably not if you're roger stone yeah so we also alex is presenting this as the first juror selected in reality what this is was just interviewing people to be put into the jury pool which then would be trimmed down right it's a preliminary thing okay um this is nonsense that she wasn't selected for the jury it was the first round of cuts and then there's gonna be another round and then you're gonna have the jury yeah and uh the reporting on it in roiders was

saying that uh the judge the reason that she didn't exclude this person from the potential jury pool was that they had said that they could make an impartial decision yeah despite their career despite the job that they formerly had they could see this uh impartially right and that's the standard by which people are excluded or uh included in the preliminary pool after that point you trim it down you know the the prosecutor and the defense uh attorney can uh say hey no on this person yeah they have a certain amount where they can strike it for no reason and then they have to have a reason and that whole thing yeah and so that's a natural part of the process if you are a sane person you would hear this and you would think well there's no way she'll actually be on the

jury no absolutely not so that's but what we should do is even though she'll never be on that jury is release her picture so a bunch of people can harass her until she dies that would be fun yeah that sounds great it's a good thing no one would do that yeah but at this point on November 5th Alex decides all right Jacob Engels isn't going to tell me who this person is so I'm going to pull up a list of communications directors wow we're just going to be committing crimes today huh he's going to play a guessing game with oh boy uh you know maybe you can blink or maybe take the glasses off when I say the right name Ellen Moran Anita Dunne acting Dan Pfeiffer I think it was him Dan Pfeiffer

not allowed to reveal Jennifer Palmyrie Jennifer Palmyrie 2013 2015 oh my god Jen Paske guess it's not her huh wow well you saw you nod maybe you'll be thrown in prison that was involuntary because judges god none of us can talk none of us can say anything because we've got to have obama's former communications director hang roger hell if they give him the death penalty maybe she can hang him and kick the lever and he'll you know break his neck and she can piss all over his dead body I mean my gosh Jacob these people are out of control you're absolutely right Alex family show family show pissing all over you're absolutely right Alex

so here's the thing the reporting on this that was tweeted out by damn it I regret that I don't have the person's name but there were people from like courthouse news court court reporters who were there who were tweeting out things along with the trial and it was reported in Reuters that the person in question this juror this potential juror was a communications director for the office of budget and management or management and budget yeah Alex is reading off a list of white house communications director sure so sure he has the wrong position right and is just guessing names and has decided that it's this uh palmyrie right lady I don't understand how humanity has gotten as far as we have the list that's the real question the list that he's pulling potential people from

cannot include the person yes because he's using the wrong list yeah I remember numbers theory a set of whole numbers yeah yeah absolutely but that doesn't stop him from deciding he knows what's up you sat there with your eyeballs when jennifer palmyrie had this all little nod there in this free country you can't tell me because we're not allowed to know it's obama's former communications director but I guess his lawyers what rogers lawyers without getting into the name I guess they search engine the person's name we're like oh my god this is obama's communications director holy mackerel you know this person's a guest host on msnbc what what was the judge saying at this point when she in gay it's like saying hitler would run the nurenberg trials well all I can say is from

what happened in the courtroom today there was a well-known obama communications asset that was allowed to be a juror and the judge said with a straight face that that was no conflict of interest that serving in the obama administration was not a conflict past that her husband is a member of the deep state intelligence community that's not a conflict hey look up palmyrie's husband uh okay I've seen a lot of things but knowing how the law works the fact that they're doing this trumps got a pardon him or they're trying to what the hell you can't I know who palmyrie is that person's been all the news they're gonna have obama's communications director be the juror who's meant you know why they were first to lead the jury to convicting so what so none of this is

real but this is ridiculous yeah fucking pack it in yeah let's call it call it here what is it 725 america's gone let's just call it this is a ludicrous thing that's happened but it's partially because alex got blindsided by this information the angle's on air and he's now i have to sort of roll with it so he's decided it's this jennifer palmyrie which is not it cannot it cannot be no but he isn't just not it can not he's building up with this case that it is that's interesting to me but um in this next clip he's rambling around a little bit and I really felt like he was trying to get to a plug yeah but he just couldn't do it I think that you'll feel the same way okay we'll see we're gonna go back to our guest here in a moment I'm just gonna say this right now

oh my god looks like she worked for the bill ommel negates foundation too oh no oh my god you know what that means too they're producing full tv shows to demonize being funded by bill ommel negates on abc nbc cbs you're the good doctor all of it i mean these people are pure evil i'm gonna stop for the rollback our guest yeah that felt like he was trying to get to a plug I really felt that yeah and he's I love the way he's like nbc abc all the cbs all of it the good doctor that's the only specific he has and there's no evidence at all that there was in any way connected to the bill he's just saying he's just saying networks it's so great so stupid like this is just the dumbest

shit I've ever heard in my life I I really am I shouldn't be surprised but the swiftness with which he came to complete 100 percent certainty is just kind of astonishing right like right I've never gone from zero I I still regret serial choices from yesterday you know what I'm saying yeah but you understand that this is partially like this is what what he has to do he has to stake a claim really fast for sure for sure it's a strategy that he has in order to get attention yeah like because all of this it really is like okay we have something we gotta run with it yeah but this will get a lot of attention if we out this juror yeah I kind of feel like maybe this is one where everybody should have just ignored him yeah I you know I think so too especially

because from what I understand it's not technically illegal what he's doing yeah it's disgraceful and also dangerous so I don't I don't actually know if I agree with you on the ignoring it thing because it is a really good present day example of the sort of behavior right that leads to why he is a problem no for sure and I think that there is maybe a teachable moment in it more so than a lot of times I see things being posted about him that are like you guys should let this one go well you let this slide I mean that's kind of the thing there is for for me it seems like the only way that he is going to get enough eyeballs I you know maybe I we still don't know exactly what the size of his audience is no but it is far less than the amount of people who are going to see it

if it's tweeted out by right wing watch and retweeted and so on and so forth what my position on it that I feel is like I think that this is a story that is worth people paying attention to and knowing about in in uh in comparison to other times and just like fucking leave this alone yeah you're giving him attention yeah yeah don't don't like turn him into a meme yeah but this is worthwhile but I also think that there is a responsibility to understand it in a fuller context yeah yeah as opposed to a little sound bite of him saying that he's going to out the person's name for sure understanding it within like how does this fit into his strategies more generally what is he actually doing what is the point here and I think that those things are something that's

I don't know if it's missing because I haven't read all the coverage of this so that would be wrong of me to say that no one is talking about the larger picture yeah but I think it definitely is missing from a lot of the conversation that I see um on Twitter about about this particular instance there is a more important thing that is part of this story without focusing on Alex and understanding him uh more than most people care to uh there is there is a context that is missed okay that's what I would say all right so in that last clip that I played for you I told you he was it felt like he was trying to get to a plug yeah I'm thrilled to announce he definitely was trying to get to a plug good and if they think having some judges put Obama head communications directors

hell have the press secretary in there hell have Obama do it if political background has nothing to do with it hell like I said let the Nazi party get the time machine and go back to 1946 to the Nuremberg trials literally if political affiliation has nothing to do with the juror then let Nazi party members sit in judgment over the Nazis what a load of malarkey but they're murdering common sense because they can't beat common sense I'll say this briefly we're ending the big mega sale the next few days oh we're selling out of all of our best-selling items and so I have 40 to 70 off story free shipping double petri points it's about to have to end I've got that's almost a whiplash man that was just after the last clip too so that's why I'm saying

like he was definitely trying to get to a plug sense of Nazis under the Europe Nuremberg trials we're out of common sense we're about to end our specials too so you got to watch out he definitely just got distracted by someone in his ear saying Bill and Melinda Gates foundation yeah yeah no kidding in the middle of trying to get to a goddamn plug and that's why he's got to talk so fast because he's running out of time what an idiot yeah so Alex is pretending that the media is covering up the fact that this potential juror was formerly in the office of budget and management man it is very very amazing how quickly this happens yeah other points you can add to us about this sir and how we're now not supposed to and the media says they're not supposed to tell us

that Obama's communication director I guess when they're walking in and out everybody knows who they are and they're famous we're just all supposed to ignore that too I call the pedophile rings what I saw this tweeted out in real time Reuters had an article that talked about it like this is no one's covering anything up they're just not behaving like you yeah that's all because they understand yeah a reality or perception ah so Alex is like this judge is in your face this tyranny is so naked no and they discuss why is that the case okay why do you think it's so in our face it's in our face because they're trying to teach every single one of the people that are listening right now a lesson that if you stand up and you fight for America you fight for America first

you fight for making this country great again for alternative media for things like info wars and freedom and truth and liberty then you will be punished you will be shamed you will be dragged through court your finances will be depleted your family will be ruined that's what they're trying well that's it they want us to know this is a political torture and destruction and assassination in front of us they want us to know their crooks that judge wants us to know she's a thug exactly this is openly just rubbing it in yeah yeah that's what it is wow if you probably committed serious crimes they want to make an example of you no no no it's just because you support info wars and the alternative media man that is that is that that level of like why are we even trying

to why am i trying to have a conversation with you at all about in the impartiality or impartiality of a potential juror it's nonsense it doesn't matter what they are if i said these people are children voted for obama he'd be like see you can't vote for obama and be impartial on a judge for roger stone you voted for obama you'd find something yeah and honestly i don't want to like oversell this but i know exactly what's going on here i think it's very transparent if you watch this through the entire episodes context the things that he's done in the past it's very very obvious was he's trying to get palmyri on his show yep totally so alex said this is the last clip from the fifth he decides that he's going to go and cover roger's trial oh fuck this is so

evil i wasn't going to come cover the trials i don't want to be a distraction i'm coming now i'm coming uh and everybody wants to get here everyone needs to be there everyone goes to support roger this is bigger than roger stone now they are literally railroading him i've never and it's confirmed that it's the former obama communications director will lead the jury she'll probably make her the foreman that's so fake was that how we end the show yeah okay so um that's a load of bullshit but uh just to break up the fifth and the sixth i forgot to play this at the beginning so here's an out of context drop from uh today's episodes i have been in satanic rituals i've left them i got tricked

into being out of twice oh fool me once how many how many times fool me once how many times have you been fooled by the nigerian scammers now which is which got tricked into going to two satanic rituals not again he's so stupid he's so stupid how do you get tricked into a second satanic ritual after that he clarifies like wow i went to bohemian groves maybe it's actually three oh well you didn't get wrong that's not a trick fuck off yeah so we jump in here on the sixth and alex announces that he's had a giant epiphany about how the global oh man he's got so many of these yeah i got up very early this morning did a lot of research and then i worked out real hard for about an hour and while the blood was pumping through the brain i was having explosive diarrhea

understanding oh okay of the enemy's operation i already understand many layers of it and structures of it more than even top generals in the new world order know their own system what but i could see the fractal design of it and the sickening art form that it basically is and i have a critical piece of the puzzle i want to talk about so when i heard that i was like this is going to be disappointing no matter what he says it's going to be something he said a hundred times yeah some bullshit and honestly i listened to the rest of this episode i'm not sure what it was oh well that's that's that's actually a refreshing new direction for him to go i would say that it's a disappointment but i don't know what the breakthrough

epiphany was that's i like that i like that leave me in suspense maybe we'll get to it some other time it's very weird because i was like is that the epiphany that he had an epiphany i had an epiphany that i still have epiphany the sickening fractal system of like i don't know i can't i i maybe the system is just fractalized and that's what his epiphany was i'm not sure what it was but this next clip was not surprising in any way and let me mention the first thing that i'm going to cover in the next hour when criminal lawyer constitutional lawyer first amendment lawyer robert barnes is in studio with us well and i consulted with several lawyers last night and with barnes this morning right before i went on air

and george soros and the little media matters uh outfit are really upset right now because they want to pull the wool over our eyes as we all know we had a reporter on your state who was in the courtroom and it was completely blown away when a known obama official that headed up a department whose husband as a lawyer at the justice department on the russia gate hoax specifically and stone's lawyers raised this and tried to strike her the first juror they looked at she was waiting she'll be the jury foreman watch so when alex is talking about this juror on these these two shows he's absolutely lying about something very important which i've already brought up

and that is that they're saying that she was chosen to be a member of the jury that's not the case at this stage of the that the trial was at they were just interviewing potential jurors this process would go on and result in a jury pool after that pool is picked then the prosecution and defense love the ability to strike people from the pool which is almost certainly what would happen in this case all that's happening is that the judge was indicating that she didn't feel that this person's past job was enough to preclude her from being a potential juror which i think is fair if you end up trying to put in place a standard that a jury of your peers has to mean they all politically agree with you no cult member or extremist would ever be charged

with anything in court ever again yeah does alex imagine that the proud boys for example all have to be tried in front of a jury of western chauvinists it's ridiculous i've read up on this a little and from what i understand what alex is doing is not specifically illegal but it's a deep breach of what people consider proper behavior it would become illegal very illegal if he were specifically trying to out this person with the intention of intimidating her now we both know like we've already discussed that's exactly what he is doing but proving that in court would be insanely difficult so alex is probably legally in the clear on that ethically though this is a huge affront to our court system juror identities are not something that people are supposed to discuss until the

trials are complete and even then generally only if the juror decides to come forward that's kind of a crucial part of the appearance of blind justice that these jurors can feel empowered to make an unbiased decision even against powerful or dangerous persons who are on trial because they know that they aren't necessarily there as themselves they're representing all of us in effect their individual identity is supposed to blur into the whole while they're serving as jurors outing jurors identity makes this way less possible since it introduces into people's minds the possibility that what they do in a jury box won't stay in that courtroom and could ruin their lives now it's so easy to get jurors for mafia guys because they knew that nobody would put their

name out and they would be safe forever and ever that's why it was so easy to get juries ultimately i don't think that alex's primary goal is to intimidate this juror potential juror he wants to create a gigantic public spectacle that gets him free press which he is achieving it's so sad that the only ways that he can get any attention these days is to roll around town in a tank or behave in culturally destructive ways that are right on the cusp of being huge felonies yeah the other goal he has is to create a preemptive justification for why roger is going to be found guilty alex because he's worked with roger and was around knows that roger is guilty he's so guilty he knows he's specifically told roger to get in touch with wiki leaks and gucifer he's the most

guilty we've played clips of him talking about that on the show yeah he knows that roger was coordinating with his other employee gerome coursey on the matter alex knows that roger is more than likely going to prison so now it's important to have a narrative in place before that happens this potential juror is perfect for that because now no matter what happens this trial is defective to alex it doesn't matter if this juror doesn't make the jury her very existence in the potential pool of jurors will be used as the talking point for why roger is a political prisoner not a criminal it's an obama judge with an obama lawyer with an obama jury who's obama all over roger stones oh nixon tattoo on his ass and that is why uh it's that what he's primarily

interested in here it's just damage control but it's damage control that's very dangerous and could put this person through a whole lot of unnecessary trouble and if it does i sincerely hope she sues alex because i think that his behavior here is um the sort of thing i'll fucking jennifer palmieri sues alex well she might not stay in the narrative very long i'm still on board with that she might have been a suspect for a day because alex does end up naming the juror what and it's not her oh god he actually does yeah fuck what an idiot yeah so like i said in the uh he's lying about her being chosen um and he talks about that a little more here she should be struck for making a potential juror

and the judge said no she's a juror she questioned the woman and said do you have a dog in this fight there's quotes there she goes no i don't care one way or the other she's first in line ready brought in and the judge raises her skirt and pisses on the constitution of the american people it's a family show uh family show okay so alex mocks the idea that people might think that what he's doing is illegal because he thinks that he's just being a journalist and the media matters goes jones should get arrested for jury tampering and harassing jurors it's completely legal and lawful when someone's a public figure what if brad pit was on the jury what if obama was on the jury what if it was robert moeller

what if it was hillary clinton what if it was chelsea clinton auto whatever she got called oh she's on it oh chelsea clinton's gonna sit on the jury for roger ston you'd say that's crazy yeah but what if it was both jackson wouldn't that be cool it's one of their minions and we've got her name and we're gonna release it because that's what the press does i know there's a war on the press and yeah all right there's a war on the press that you're bleeding you're deeply involved in you're the one warring a couple of really quick points one alex says that it's legal and lawful which is a barn's catchphrase yeah so i know that he's saying that based on meetings with barns that linguistic

tick is very specific to barns so that's cool gotcha second i read the media matters article and it doesn't say that alex should go to prison for this they're just saying this is ridiculous behavior yeah that he's engaged in he's just making that up as a straw man in order to attack so lest you think that this show is all just about this potential juror no alex also has to get into disgusting rants about drag queen story time what why now it's launching full assaults directly on letting men dressed as women in clown outfits in satanic outfits have access to your children and now even show their genitals to them in unannounced events as they fully mark their territory for assimilation and destruction they're grooming them and they go to city councils

and they go on tv and they say we must have access to your children the beautiful thing we're going to do with them this is lovely this is wonderful we are here to groom them they are ours and sometimes they even go drinking blood and just savagely murder them and you see them going i want to tell them they'll go excuse me because they're uncloaking they're uncloaking you think they just want to screw your kids they want to murder them but first they want them begging alone in the dark not believing god's real that's their whale song and i have a song for them the fire of god's judgment is coming so that's pretty offensive and it seems really disjointed from our episode and it is a little bit you know it came out of nowhere a little bit but the reason i wanted

to play that is because like it's gross it's sickening but at the same time when i was listening to it one of the things that i couldn't help but think i couldn't stop thinking this is like that is by that's just by the book that's like it really felt like he was on autopilot yeah yeah just totally the demon voice they want to drink blood they're coming to all of the little beats that were along the way it's just like this is boilerplate for alex yeah that really that juxtaposition of how like sickening that that that rhetoric is yeah and how rote it is in his just delivery it's it's something that he could just rattle off yeah no problem eyes closed yep don't even worry about it you need me to fill five i got five yeah yeah no there have been a there have been a few times

where it's like i'm sure that you've been there as well where you're doing a long set and you you're doing a chunk that you've done for five years and all of a sudden you realize you're thinking about something else while still talking yeah you have no you were like oh shit i'm still on stage holy cow yeah there are a number of stories that i told hundreds of times and like i just could do it uh mechanically yeah yeah absolutely and that's how it feels here and that's gross i mean it's disgusting but it's also kind of surreal you know it's it's really weird how normal for him yeah things that are horrible are yeah so anyway alex gets back to the it's almost like a like a fire and brimstone preacher in like the medieval a medieval era

of just like oh you're just you're just screaming let's kill the jews all the time and you're fine with it he doesn't even bother you like we're past that man yeah yeah it's it's uh drawing and it's one of those things too that i i always have to consider is like how inundated i am with alex's shit that like nothing it's kind of hard to shock me with his is rhetoric and that's that's like that clip if you're introduced to that without the context of listening to tons of alex right right that's nuts right but for us it's you know hey it's just alex talking shit yeah yeah it's wild it's it's it's a it's a gross place that i've come to in my life i think what's interesting about that for me is that it makes it even more disgusting whenever i hear it from anyone else

sure like from alex i'm just like oh yeah i fucking whatever you're gonna drink blood and dot we know this is your marketing yeah yeah yeah but if i hear it from a from like a human being that's just fine i'm like you are what are you doing you're fucking no no you took the bait yeah yeah yeah so barns is on sure because it's a day and it's alex's show so one of his lawyers is here yeah so he's on and uh he has a fucking interesting way of looking at this case today media organizations were pushing back uh saying that the identity of the jurors could not be disclosed that somehow would be a criminal act or a bad act if that took place that's nonsense used to be the media demanding everything be public now now they're the executioners they're the attack dogs of

tyrannous well if it was one of theirs on trial they would be demanding disclosure and they would be talking about bias imagine if you were in the 1960s and the media came out and said you can't talk about the clan connection of a juror in an african-american defended case that's precisely what took place here that is not precisely what took place here barns that is not what took place barns can be relied upon for a big swing every time we've seen him on the show he has at least one big cut you know yeah he's taken it and so this is what he's bringing to the table it's like all we're doing yeah is highlighting jury bias yeah yeah often jury bias was only exposed when the identity of the individual was named they're like hey i have this information i

have that information hey they they they misled on this what protects a fair trial in this country is open free press that's right we're going to bring that power back by sheer force of will we're going to expose uh this prospective juror the first one brought up by the judge that works for obama and the bill millen gates foundation and whose husband is deep inside the operation with the fake rusher gate hoax on the other side so now that alex has spoken with barns and barns is there he's being a little more careful because he is saying perspective juror yeah yeah yeah yeah so that is interesting that is sort of a changing and maybe it's just an updating of information maybe he sincerely believed earlier um that she was chosen as a juror right right um

i don't i don't know what it is but or he had a conversation and barns was like okay here's what you have to tell the truth about yeah and here's what you can lie about but we got to get these things right yeah but what we can say for sure is that barns absolutely advised alex on this yeah this morning we had a lengthy meeting we pulled the supreme court rulings he said absolutely it's not just you're right alex it's your duty to release the name of the woman who's been picked as the first prospective juror they tried to strike her and the judge said no wait till robert barns esteemed lawyer lays this out for you because this is way bigger than roger stone but we all feel for we have empathy because we know we're next myself literally when something happens to

roger it's like it's happening to me that's what empathy is that is not a no that's not how that works that's not empathy no that's somehow narcissism again that's narcissism by proxy um that's uh that that uh it's interesting though i mean like if you have that is his definition of empathy yeah yes looking if it hurts me yeah if this is an indication of something bad that's coming to me i experience it as bad that is not empathy anyway uh on the last episode on november 5th alex said while he was talking to engels that engels was going to come back on as well as tyler nixon roger's lawyer sure and it turns out that is not going to happen oh no and now in the second day i talked to our reporters and stones people

and they're so scared they won't even talk no they said the judge is going crazy this is about an hour ago in fact just about an hour ago talked during a break the judge is going crazy threatening everybody we can't talk about anything well you know it's about this that we had mr engels on reporter from florida who was there and what he said was true it was in roiders it was in it was an ap i'm going to show you what he said but media matters run by george soro says i should be arrested for this this jury tampering media matters didn't say that the article that i i read about this uh this instance i don't know what alex is talking about i would assume that maybe roger told them not to go on yeah i would i would assume that that's a possibility because roger is like i know what

alex does yeah i you've done enough yeah yeah like we've created the kernel of if i've found guilty then i'm a political prisoner the narrative is in place you can only do more damage at this point yeah you vote you wrote there's only down for you to go the more you talk the worse it anybody who's actually associated with me concretely my lawyer my assistant jacob engels to stay away from that for now it is too hot engels that's my guess engels nailed it here's what he did he said that there was a juror that had that information and then he winked yeah or coughed or waved a little bit yeah done don't say another fucking word he threw the bomb and alex lit it like he's or whatever whatever kind of metaphor you want to make like he um is in the clear of whatever alex's actions are

he just said something that yeah i mean it wasn't it was an article yep so there you go yeah alex is the one who's committing all the crimes in there yep well again maybe whether they're legal or not right there are crimes they're crimes against civility yeah but alex now announces we're out these people then they call it the first magic person that warning did not stop stone oh see he's bad lawyers from trying to strike the very first one a woman who once served as communications director for the white house office of management and budget that's the most important office folks that's the money under democratic president barack obama and whose husband is a justice department national security attorney we looked him up we're going to expose him as well right now

next segment the barns is going to start first he keeps teasing this out because obviously he wants people to know he's going to do this in order to draw as many eyes as possible hey still just a stunt stop in your car right now roll down the window scream over alex is about to reveal the jury yeah so he's now learned that it's a communications director for the office of management and budget which means that it's not jennifer palmieri who he said the day before and keep in mind that he says that he's dug into this husband of hers sure deep state operative right um we'll see what kind of deep research he's going to present on that i like that he's he's like the office of management that's the important one that's where the money that's the money no one

has ever described the o and b as being the one where the money is i mean it's got budget right i understand it's a budget right never so alex has got barns in there and he knows that if this is presented in such a way that it appears that alex is intimidating a juror yes then he could be in legal trouble bad so he has to explicitly say that they're not doing that that's not the same thing as not doing it you might argue that there's nobody out there who wants to in any way intimidate the juror or affect the juror at all or any perspective juror at all the point is to know the identities of the jury so that people can independently make their own inquiries and judgment about whether the process is being done fairly you would want john goddy's son as a juror at his trial

exactly i would argue that his audience that he's cultivated over the years they're digging into things and seeing if things are on the up and up is materially identical to harassment yeah historically speaking i do not trust them to be a brain trust of good researchers god but i mean that is that is what you call a disclaimer barns that's barns throwing out a alex if we're gonna do this wow we have to say this that's and that's and he didn't even do it well he did it and it still sounded like a protection right look nobody wants anything bad to nobody wants anything bad happen less than we do we don't want anything to happen the most bad right and that is why if you don't give us a hundred grand we're gonna release your name to the mob i just can't we don't want

anything bad to happen yeah so alex is pretending and announcing this as we have the person we know this is the person who is the potential juror which makes it bad that this is how he's describing his process well by process of elimination and going off our own reporters and Reuters and AP everybody's saying it was a woman whose husband works at the justice department on the Mueller case and international espionage affairs they didn't say that there's only one woman who worked as the head of public relations for the office of budget management in the obama years and she was there in 2013 and 2014 so he's gearing up he knows that like i said next segment we're gonna do this they still is not going to fucking put up and say this person's name right just yet

he has to make this even more suspicious no republicans are allowed on the jury but as he's saying that barns comes in i don't know how to describe this but i i feel like this is a little bit sexist to see how this judge is not letting any republicans on but you were saying sees a woman like herself on another obama appoint oh yeah i mean her background is professional class background obama appointee sort of looks like what hillary would look like looks like your iconic demographically fits your obama appointee and hillary acolyte a white cat lady i mean yeah very profession it's that professional class mind said i call sort of like it's people who would have otherwise been first grade teachers now with the power of the judge with the power of the senator whatever

power they have it's but they tend to leverage that power aggressively they're sending us an attention they put us in prison for speech one way to hear that i think it's difficult to hear that outside of like these women belong his first grade teachers not in government yeah they don't belong in public office like i i don't i don't know what point he's trying to make other than that what does she looks kind of like what hillary clinton would look like yeah even mean i'm not sure i don't care i don't care i just it's just an insane say it's just an insane sentence yeah it's an insane sentence yeah so in this next clip barns lies a little bit more about the selection process of these jurors i mean by the logic she employed uh only people with a personal

bias against roger stone were going to be excluded no one who had a strong bias against trump was going to be excluded and as you said the prosecutor has opened up today to the news making it all about trump robert barns is a goddamn liar allow me to read to you from the reuters article that alex has referenced many times on this episode the headline of this story it's quote long time trump advisor roger stone takes ill during jury selection for trial here's what it says quote some prospective jurors were excluded because they indicated they could not put aside their dislike of trump bias against trump was definitely disqualifying for jurors robert barns just made that shit up to make it look like this trial that was happening with roger it's some kind of a setup

that's because they need that to be the perception not to the reality the perception because they know he's fucking guilty as shit and they need preemptive spin robert barns is not a lawyer he is a propagandist yeah if roger is found guilty what does that mean for this entire operation roger was working at info wars at the time he was disseminating his info uh information on alex's show his emails that involve the planning and coordination those were between himself and alex's other employee jerome coursey if roger is found guilty that introduces some really hard questions for alex that he'd rather not deal with so the best way to do that is to preemptively argue to the audience that this case is a sham so no matter the outcome it means nothing it's the perfect

strategy if your audience is stupid because if roger ends up acquitted then you get to say that they tried to railroad him but he was so innocent that he still won this is all just parlor tricks this is all that alex has this is all that he does which shouldn't be surprising uh what's a little more offensive is that his lawyer is complicit in this charade i don't know how he wears many hats dan on tv puts that propagandist hat on it says my god give me money and then when he gets out the door he puts the hat on that says i'm a bad lawyer i don't know how this process works but i think that barns's license should be reviewed absolutely review no absolutely let's see if this is a becoming behavior of someone who's uh allowed to practice law because i don't i don't know that it

is so in this next clip we finally get down to business and alex finally reveals uh the name of this supposed juror okay so let's get to it right now uh here is who lines up with the only woman that ran um this office in pr the only one that has a husband the justice department and the whole muller thing dr camshot please uh sylvia matthews burwell uh there she is 1965 she's born she met her husband at the bill mullin gates foundation uh and she was brought into government and worked directly under bill clinton you can go read all this uh for yourself ladies and gentlemen and her husband uh again works at the justice department i argue very confidently that alex jones by the very nature of his show and his entire career is attempting to engage in jury

tampering by making a big big production out of revealing this woman's name on air at the same time i'm not positive that that's something that could be proven in court and he may be within the realm of what's technically legal this is an offensive display and anyone who knows anything about alex knows what he's trying to do but there's a good chance he won't have any legal consequences so whatever yeah but there's another reason why he may not get in trouble for this he absolutely got the wrong person again jennifer palmieri was the first person he decided this i knew it he's wrong again i knew he wasn't going to get this one right because the moment he said oh we've we've narrowed it down this is the only woman there's 13 14 i was like no you fucking didn't

there were like 20 other women he's just fucking lazy i don't know who the actual person is and even if i did i wouldn't say their name on air i'm only discussing i only i was considering bleeping out the person's name uh silvia i was a little surprised you didn't i was considering doing that but in order to demonstrate how wrong alex is and he's already put this name out yeah that's from the information available by jacob engels as well as the stuff that was tweeted out by other court reporters who were on the scene the potential juror specifically worked as a quote communications director at the office of management and budget silvia matthews berwell never held that position she instead was the director of the office of management and budget

which is a different role alex is so goddamn sloppy with his details that he doesn't recognize the difference between director and communications director and because he's so desperate for attention and to create a narrative that will invalidate rogers eventual conviction he's just completely fucked up this story i feel like if matthews berwell receives any kind of harassment or threats because of this she may have a pretty solid case against alex there's no reason for him to report that she was on this jury other than some identifying details that he got wrong and his alleged process of elimination honestly this sort of thing highlights why he can't understand that the abc news video that project veritas put out is full of shit he can't understand

that journalistic outlets have standards for information that they report and they can't just say whatever the fuck they want damn the torpedoes he's made an entire career off not being careful at all getting everything wrong and being rewarded for it so it kind of makes sense that he couldn't see i really wish that when you put it that way it's not true yeah it's so sad but that's why he sees any kind of caution as proof of a grand conspiracy yeah of course silvia matthews burrow burwell is not the potential juror but there's a further embarrassment here and it's that the potential juror alex has been screaming about didn't even end up making the jury of course not he's all yelling about how she's going to be the four person and she wasn't selected

at all of course not if i were the judge the day after i would have been like well it we don't even need to have a strike nobody gets nobody needs to say anything she's just gone this is all nothing but it's potentially very dangerous for miss matthews burrow burwell there's no journalistic merit to what alex is doing there's no further goal to this other than to create excuses for why his friend is probably going to jail if he wants to create alternative realities like this i mean it's his right to do that but at the point where his delusions become a danger to others it's well worth having a discussion about how he needs to be forced to get help yep even if this act isn't illegal it's the behavior of a severely mentally ill person alex jones is

completely unraveling in front of our eyes largely because of the attention support and money that had been buffering him has been decreasing as his access to social media has gone away everyone around him needs to recognize that this is the path that he's on and it does not end well if anyone cares about him at all i implore you get alex help if you care about him in any way i can't imagine like how you can let someone you love act like this and not step in it's disgraceful it's alex it's it's it's i mean i hate to be preachy but like this is a lunatic who is now acting in ways that we've seen the consequences of his actions in the past yeah that led has led to targeted harassment of people he's fingered for no reason like we're seeing it consistently continue into

the present and i just i feel like everyone who has an ability to persuade him or force him to get help that isn't doing it i just i cannot possibly understand why you would act like that he is he is a lunatic who is lashing out at people uh but just enjoy you are making me feel like uh i'm living in slaughterhouse five and i'm unstuck from time how is it that we can just literally spend a couple of episodes talking about alex pulling off certain behaviors in 2013 and then do a present day episode less than a week apart and he is performing those very same behaviors that's insane it's either that or he does it every single fucking day he does it a lot he does it a lot i mean because you have to consider that the reason that we're looking at these things in 2013 is because he's being sued

i know it's determinative i i understand he's it's just how he operates i understand why we got why we're it's just that that's it's like at a certain with your head at a certain point as the stakes get raised as his behavior deteriorates in these ways i just i mean i i i i wish him ill in the sense that i hope he feels the consequences of what he's doing but i at the same time like for everyone it's in everyone's best interest that he get help yeah um no i i would never want the like his all of his fantasies of like this is what we want to do to the globalist and all that shit only picks in their eyes only put more into stark relief what it is that i would like and that's like an empathy gun yeah i just want to fire a bullet in you that makes you feel everything

that you've done to the people around you i like i don't want you to be fatal i think that alex i mean like i i think he's probably beyond being helped quite frankly but that doesn't mean that that's still not the solution yeah trying to get him some like very serious psychological help because he's he is living you know what if he's living in a fictional world this bizarre overarching anti-communist conspiracy and all this bullshit i'm not particularly all that interested in that yeah but to the point where he's disseminating this information widely pretending he's an expert in anything while getting everything wrong and engaging in a gigantic media spectacle that he's trying to pull off where he endangers people who are just private citizens absolutely people

who have no business being pointed out and targeted by him yeah like that is where it crosses the line to like every single person around him all of his employees his wife everybody is complicit in this because there is a solution to this there is a 51 50 you can put him on yeah you can call will provide material evidence he is a danger to others yeah he really is and it has nothing to do with politics no it has nothing to do with like no political beliefs or anything like that i don't even think it has to do with this racism if he was saying this and it was any other president or or political if he was on the left and he's revealing jurors fucking names in the hopes that his rabid fan base would do some very serious intimidation at best yeah then it doesn't matter

if there's a an ideology behind it you're fucking crazy and if alex were somebody who doesn't have that history that very clear history of this interaction between himself and his audience where there is harassment that goes around and he's very aware of i would probably take it a little bit differently him saying a juror's name yeah on air imagined jurors yeah i think it would be a little bit different i would say well that's distasteful but i wouldn't look at it as a danger this is a danger like i don't think that anyone's gonna kill this woman or anything like that yeah but the the yesterday no one cared about her at all i mean her family did yeah not saying she was a worthless person but she was not in any kind of potential civil servant she was

just a i believe former civil servant yeah yeah i she wasn't in any kind of potential danger from alex's audience or dumb shit heads where this might get reposted on gateway pundit or whatever she wasn't in that crosshair and now she is yep alex has brought that into her life and that is a horrible thing yep so i don't know my my basic point is someone take this seriously who can do something yeah uh a broken record yeah uh because i've said this many times before and every time he does stuff like this it's like well this is why he needs to get help well it's not like there aren't a a unending list of people who have satisfied a crazy horse and taken their cut and then let it die whenever it's yep you know yep that's uh that's a very common story among yeah great

deal with that yeah uh people yeah there's an option anyway um i i i i stress whenever i'm saying these things about like he needs help i mean he needs help yeah i don't i don't think that anybody should hurt him absolutely not um so alex uh he said that her husband is uh involved in all this stuff too and this is the only real evidence he provides now let's show you uh her purported uh husband here that's steven berwell and here is a photo of steven berwell reportedly while she's being sworn in uh with joe biden so he looks like eddie haskell on steroids ladies and gentlemen so uh there you go what a nice group we have ruling over us that's the only evidence that he provides that uh he's involved in the Mueller investigation he was in a picture with

biden yeah okay the people who are the reporters on the scene were did tweet out that he is a lawyer for the department of justice sure um in the i believe it was in the national security uh division of the department of justice so there there is a possibility that he was involved in some small way but i don't i haven't been able to find any concrete evidence that ties him to any anything in particular or that he was a player in any in any way and the only evidence alex has is that he is in a picture while she is being sworn in until i get at least two or three more corroborating pieces of evidence i'm not even gonna believe this guy is even her husband i am i don't believe alex did shape purported husband yeah exactly i don't believe again he

might have he probably held up a photo of fucking grimace like this dude i don't believe anything the media though jordan is trying to cover this all up oh are we i'm we're not the media we're not the media again this is the total overthrow of rule of law i mean my god the media won't even tell you that she was a high-level person with obama and that her husband is in the whole muller witch hunt i mean we have a right to know that it's still america no matter what you dangerous evil left to say so alex is saying that the media won't tell you this stuff but at the same time he's quoting a Reuters article that says it yeah i don't understand what he's which is it which is it is the media covering it up or do you want to have a fucking source it is all but it is bullshit that is such

it is it is everywhere that is deeply abusive to his audience yeah yeah yeah the media is covering it up but here's a mainstream you know article about it his audience it's over with for them that's abusive to me yeah i don't like having to hear that shit yeah i'm not entirely sure why i cut this clip but i do know that there's an ad pivot in it okay this is ridiculous like having hitler at the nuremberg trial he'd be pro nazi with this would he just bring the damn gallows in there like you said barns and hang them so we're ending the everything must go super sale slow out for shipping double patriot points and um 40 70 off there's a whole lot of this on this episode i think it's because he knows that he's trying to draw in tons more of attention yeah

you tease out the announcement of this person's name as many as in there and bang out the yeah yeah yeah for sure yeah for sure so you might be saying that alex said this person's name and outed them as a potential juror when he was wrong about it because he's bad at his job and he operates just knee jerk um badly just terribly yeah yeah yeah but it's actually because he's a journalist that really doesn't sound true and he is not a coward i think that's wrong and to me that that's not supposed to happen we're supposed to have impartial selection of judges supposed to be random selection random assignment of cases but meanwhile the first juror called is the former head of the office of budget management pr the former deputy director of it her husband works on

the Mueller probe and it's we're not supposed to tell you her name even though there's no law they're threatening everyone well we just told you because we're americans and all this kissing ass and being cowards has got us in a bad position what made america great was doing the right thing and being strong and not being a bunch of damn cowards we salute robert barnes for not being a i love the idea that like america is founded on not checking twice yeah we don't do rewrites we're like elron hubbard first draft last draft and alex on this show on this sixth he's not even addressing the fact that for the fifth on the episode of the fifth yeah he was saying it was jennifer palmieri yeah he's not even addressing like well we got it wrong at first but now here's

the real person who are what have made america great was never admitting that you got it wrong the first time dan yeah actually that might be true what actually made america great the snake oil salesmanship i want to slap barns in the face so bad that that like that the selection of judges is supposed to be impartial like really really one thing that everybody on the right universally praises trump for is choosing judges they don't do it because he's choosing them for their impartiality barns certainly not you fucking lying piece of shit and you know that yeah how dare you yeah it's pretty it's pretty offensive that's offensive he's not a lawyer i mean technically he is but he's not a lawyer i guess so anyway here's another

gross ad pivot that of course you expose who jurors are so that they're open just like a judges background or lawyers background or the people that are there are public but now they want it all to be secret we're gonna be talking about that a lot more in just a moment you know speaking of the grim reaper dna force plus ladies and gentlemen is the closest thing to what you're going to find out there that's the fountain of youth i'd like i'd like to point out that he was not speaking of the grim reaper hey that was a little bit out of nowhere i think he was saying that like these people are the bringers of right right or something like that yeah it's like whoa that was nuts speaking of the grim reaper this x that's fine the fountain of youth

i like that as a non sequitur yeah so he does a little bit of an ad for this product of his and then he gets into talking about like you know actually the angel of death was sent by god you know they actually say the angel of death sent by god that the devil doesn't control the angel of death and you know if you put the red blood the lambs there i guess it's pass over that the angel of death will pass pass over your house when it goes after pharaoh and the corrupt establishment that was about to be dealt with by god because pharaoh was demanding the first born son of every israelite as a malachian sacrifice so there wouldn't be leadership there wouldn't be anyone to resist the crown the boys were attacked by drag queen story time in the prozac and

the riddlin and the and the and the attack on boys as was in the past as is again today things just repeat themselves as above so below but seriously dna force plus wow back in stock wow that's i think i think my eye is bleeding from that punch yeah that's that was pretty impressive oh god cut me cut me a lot of weird salesmanship going on here that was just free association that wasn't even i don't know what he's the old man so alex has oan shroyer in dc covering roger's case sure he's on the sea he's got the he's got the big guns he's got the talent over there if anything made me laugh my ass off it's probably this next clip because oan's out there

doing a man on the street thing trying to talk about how rogers you know like he's it's unfair what they're doing to roger mic down for this because you gotta you gotta love this the real lawlessness is this show trial that's the lawlessness not alex jones reporting on a juror that's nothing that's free speech that's truth so this is kind of like the tommy rominson thing here come here and say that sir come say that to my face you coward you're a coward get out here you fascist coward you nazi you're a nazi coward get out of america you nazi coward yeah you won't come talk to me you punk get out of my face sorry alex you had a guy shouting me down out here punk coward i find that to be so hilarious oan shroyers in the middle of trying to do a

remote and he gets to do a fight with a guy man you know it's it's another one of those situations where it's like every time alex swears and he really goes for it and you're like you don't know how to do this man what are you what are you doing oan does not know how to get into a fight with somebody it doesn't sound like that is bad that is weird yeah it's on it's very stilted that's robotic yeah yeah so the other problem is that he's also very stupid oan shroyer is very dumb he knows two insults punk and coward and nazi and fascist i don't think he thinks those are insults though so he's uh he's trying to talk about the juror situation and how them having her as a jury member means the whole case is fucked and he is highlighting a fundamental misunderstanding

of how the legal system works every every member of the jury could sit here and be like yep stone was railroaded this is a show trial this is this was a rig job kangaroo court but they've got the one juror that's all they need they now control the entire thing they control the judge they control the defense with the democrat lawyers now they control the jury jury results i mean they literally have every angle covered now so the first important point here is that this woman was not put on the jury so she's not even there for the trial now they have even more control dad oan's premise fails there just right off the bat man but he's also failing on a basic understanding of how our legal system works the argument he's trying to make is that because there's one person on the jury

who's going to vote that roger is guilty no matter what even if everyone else says not guilty roger won't get justice this demonstrates a startling lack of understanding of the topic that he's covering while it is true that one person being skewed toward the defense could fuck up a prosecution that is true the same is not true in the reverse because our courts are based on the presumption of innocence until proven guilty if everyone but this one juror voted not guilty roger could not be convicted a unanimous decision is required to convict so if the jury reached an impasse where this one globalist plant juror wouldn't budge it would end in a mistrial and then the state would either have to decide to drop charges or if they wanted to retry the case in no way could one guilty

vote result in a conviction in the way uh that one not guilty vote would preclude a conviction seriously oan shroyer doesn't have the basic understanding that's required to have these sorts of conversations and he's putting this idea forth while talking trying to correct an allegedly very competent lawyer you heard him at the beginning he's saying bob bob bob he's talking to robert barnes who's supposedly a lawyer these people have a lot of feelings about what's happening in the world and i guess they're entitled to those feelings but they are just not equipped to have the adult conversations they're trying to have about actual topics i mean that's bananas yeah it's very when he said when he said now that they have one juror they have the

whole thing i i was searching for example like maybe maybe that he thinks that there's like that it's like there's a swing vote you know and they have like no it he just has no idea he's talking about a he's talking about a hung jury in a mistrial yes and he just has no idea how it actually works well what what he's what he's imagining is the stories that you hear of people who like you know eleven of the jurors say guilty one says not guilty and therefore you can't convict he's reflecting that he's taking the opposite of that and imagining that it has the same sort of outcome yeah no his idea is essentially a hearing about twelve angry men i doubt he's seen it well it's also he's he's assuming that like okay let's say there's a mistrial then that default

means roger is guilty and it's not it's it's uh it's ridiculous so anyway we have one last clip here jordan and alex has made a big spectacle of this he's said definitively that he knows who the juror is even though he was wrong the day before and he's also wrong again um and so it makes it really sad when he ends the episode like this sort of uh waffling a little bit while still being hyper confident info wars releases name of obama official chosen for roger stone jury and it turns out she headed up health and human services on top of it so what this is the only woman that was ever in that position that politico and uh the washington post reported as the head spokesperson for office of budget and management nope and the only woman who had a husband in the

justice department working in the molar probe uh and so uh nobody else will release it that appears to be who it is with about 99 probability 99 probability why are you why are you leaving that one percent dangling there alex he used why is it always that the one percent ends up being right like why is it the process of elimination dan and as nat silver and 538 have told us i don't know what they say you can't operate like this you you can't you just can't you can't do these sorts of things with bullshit process of elimination misunderstanding various job titles in order to make this fit whatever you want to do you just can't do the shit like this i mean i guess you can but you should like and you can be rewarded for it right don't forget about that part it's just

staggering to me um the extent to which he's wrong yeah and that's what i'm saying every single time he's like i'm 99 percent on this there's a one percent chance this is a real attack or whatever it's always the one percent it's always the one percent whatever that tiny percent he has that he might be wrong is always i think he's i think we're just experiencing alex in the wrong multiverse for him it must be you know like in 99 percent of the multiverse is obviously he's correct about everything yeah it just so happens that you and i exist in the one where he's always wrong i mean if that's the case isn't that crazy tragic for yeah anyway i come to the end of this episode and what i'm left with is an overwhelming sense of sadness yeah i am sad because alex is clearly

diving deeper into the overt white nationalist white supremacist leanings that he has as demonstrated in that coverage of the new hampshire couple story where he's saying that it's you're allowed to do this because you're brown and white people need to get guns and get ready to shoot people like that's really fucked up yeah the extent to which he's saying that his enemies need to be wiped off the earth not just murdered with ice picks a street lobotomy yeah yeah i'm sad about that that makes me really bummed out i really i really think that um the world's better without rhetoric like that maybe and then i'm really sad about this desperate pathetic attempt to uh out this juror yeah like i think it's i think it's a pathetic attempt i think it's very sad he's uh demonstrating if anything

his inability to research the incompetence of his team the sloppiness of his legal advisors who are just like yeah go do this is your duty to do this yeah i i just i um it's a bummer it's a bummer um and and further it's transparent like as soon as i got through listening to these episodes it was so fucking clear to me that this is the behavior of someone who knows that roger is probably going to be found guilty oh he's the most guilty that this is a behavior to invalidate the trial before it begins yeah because that's what you got to do to protect whatever connection you have to him yeah and that's not empathy yeah i i think that when people cover stuff like this it would be wise to understand that that is the motive that alex has it is possible that there is also a motive of trying

to uh intimidate this juror uh tamper with the jury it is possible that that is somewhere within his mind that is that is possible and it's also further possible that that will be the real world consequence of this yeah and it's not probably wise to ignore that i'm not advocating people ignore that but it would be wise for people to lead any kind of story about this with why alex is doing this is because like lay out the connections to info wars that are very clearly part of the roger stone case yeah and be like alex needs preemptive justification for when his friend is probably found guilty um but i to continue the perception uh the reality conversation i would guarantee that alex would never say or doesn't believe like in his perception he's like i am not

trying to tamper with anybody i'm not trying to intimidate anybody i truly believe that i am doing my best to help these people and i'm trying to invalidate the trial before it happens i'm not trying to hurt anybody but i'm totally trying to invalidate the trial because the trial is just a kangaroo court yeah yeah i mean alex's perception of what he did when he was super drunk and screaming about a million dollar bounty on the opposing council on his sandy hook case he doesn't think that is intimidation or and yet the reality is different right yeah so it all comes back to that alex's lead story on the fifth is damning for him i know because reality does exist every time he's like i fucking i've got something really valuable and important to say i've looked

deep in the mirror and i see that everything that i do is wrong and i'm gonna express that to you as me being right you're like jesus all right man yep good luck alex yeah so uh we'll be back on monday but until then we have a website we do it's knowledge fight dot com yep world's on twitter we are on twitter is that knowledge underscore fight world's on go to bed jordan we are also on facebook uh and if you'd like to download the show please go to itunes uh download leave a review etc go to other podcast apps tell your friends we love it yep uh we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i'm the director of office of management and budget andy and chan's us you're on the air thanks for holding hello alex i'm a first-name caller i'm a huge fan

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