Knowledge Fight - #370: November 14-15, 2019

Episode Date: November 18, 2019

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss the day prior to and the day of Roger Stone's conviction, and how things played out on The Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex seems to reach point of exasperation with Trump not helping his allies, and another familiar face returns from the distant past.

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. I love you. Welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're couple dudes like to sit around trick novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed we are Dan Jordan. Jordan. Have you ever been on the receiving end of a random act of kindness by a stranger or the like? Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure. Okay, cool. Moving on. Now onto the episode. We've got some people who are kind random act of kindness. We've joined our patreon is no. I'm certain I have. I have. Oh, I mean I've. Wow. I can't. I can't remember

the exact specifics of this, but someone went out of their way to give me my wallet back once. Oh yeah. And I remember just the amazing relief of that. Yeah, it was crazy. The just the like. Oh, thank God. You know, like you lose your wallet. You know, there's a lot. Of various things that are tough to replace licenses, credit cards. I had my social security card in my wallet for a while. I did too at that time. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, shit. That's fucked up. I didn't realize anybody. Oh, great. Now my social security. Right. Right. You can get a new card, but you can't get a new number. Fucking shit. I just thought everything was over. Yeah. I mean that over. Right. Right. And yeah, this person like went

out of their way to get the license back or the wallet back to me. Nothing was missing from it. It was like that there are there are moments like that that I definitely have experienced, but they're not. There's not a I don't know why they don't stick out in my head as much. Isn't that awful that the fucking I can remember single heckler nights, but there are some random acts of kindness. I'm like man, that was really nice. Fuck that guy over there. Like it's just out your brain. Totally saved you from so much trouble and you're like moving along. Yeah. Yeah. Next is one guy who mildly inconvenienced me. I'm going to think about for the next decade. Yep. That's not good. You should do something

or we're probably going to die. I'm going to reflect on that and try and value nice moments more in the future. So Jordan today we got a interesting episode. Oh wait, this is a podcast where I don't know much about my memories of random acts of kindness, but I do know a lot about Alex Jones and I don't know much about either. So today Jordan, of course on Mondays we're generally back in the past going over 2013. Yeah, seeing how Alex progressed after the Sandy Hook shooting and the Boston bombing now. Right. And since nothing important has gone on in the present day, I'm assuming we can just get back right into it. They can't. Unfortunately. Oh no. Alex Jones has received a very bad piece of news. Oh

yeah. What's that? Wow. That's that. Roger Stone is going to person. Somebody has let me know. Yeah. Roger Stone has been found guilty on all seven charges. All seven charges he was facing and he's looking at up to 50 years in prison, but of course he's not going to get 50 years. He's going to get three. I don't know. I think three seems low, but I would be surprised if it's more than like eight. Yeah. That's kind of where on that. Yeah. And you know, in terms of how much time he's actually going to serve, I would be surprised if it's more than three or yeah. Yeah. Whatever the case is. I think that would be silly for us to guess at this point. So whatever what will happen will happen. We'll learn along the

way, but if he gets 50 years in prison, that'll be the most hilarious. We will. We will definitely be drinking champagne on that day. I don't think so actually because I would I would be kind of against that. I think super against it to that's the worst way too strong a sentence. I think even as much as I hate Roger, I think I'm against long prison sentences. I have to continue to be against long prison sentences despite how fucking awful Roger still even a shorter prison sentence for him. I'm not positive is productive. Yeah. I don't think there's any rehabilitation that that's like saying Jim Baker was rehabilitated. You know, like it's not happening. I don't know what you do because the issue is you got to

take away or somehow mitigate his ability to be a you know, as they say a rat fucker. I think you have to cut his tongue out. What are we doing? I don't know if going to prison achieves that goal. He's not going to learn a lesson. No, there's no lessons to be learned. No, so I don't I don't like I don't pretend to know the right answer. Yeah, but whatever Alex thinks he's going to get 50 plus years in prison. Of course, let him die in prison. Whatever. So we have to go over this because it's an unfolding saga in Alex's life. So today we're going over November 14th and 15th of 2019, which is I guess what would that have been Thursday and Friday of last week. And so Thursday 14th is when Alex still doesn't know what's

going to happen. Right. Roger isn't sentenced till Friday. So he has his behavior before sentencing and after I think you'll see his behavior isn't great. Okay, right. And so we'll enjoy that as we go along. But before we get down to business day, we got to take a moment to say thank you to some folks who signed up and are supporting the show. So first of all, Samuel, thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk next Steve. Thank you so much. Not pecanic, but Steve, thank you so much. You an hour policy wonk, I'm a policy wonk X Steve. Next breadman. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk, I'm a policy wonk thank you bread man. Yeah. Next amber from the vault. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk,

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from today's show. I was in court once they're asking what tiktok is. I'm curious too. Is that when he was on the stand? Was he under oath whenever he had to answer that question? It might have just been in the like the halls. Someone asked him about the back. What's tiktok? What's tiktok? What did he say? What? What did Alex say? Yeah, I don't know. He didn't. He didn't get his answer to that very pressing question. I took my children's phones away. So Jordan today. Like I said, this is the saga of Roger and Alex on the 14th a song of ice and fire. If you will on the 14th Roger's case is still ongoing and Alex behaves in ways that I think probably cause some problems for Roger's trial. You know, he's on air and his big position

is essentially that this is going to be a railroading. Okay, they want to basically railroad Roger Stone, as we all know. And once they set the precedent for that, they think they're going to railroad everybody else. And it's real cheering. And it's woken a lot of people up. And I've learned a lot of really horrible things about the trial from the stone camp last night this morning, such as reporters that are going to be joining us. And this whole thing is a lot bigger than Roger Stone. This is about due process in this country being flushed down the toilet. But because once due process is gone, if you think there's already tyranny in this country, well, wait, we'll get as bad as North Korea, probably a lot worse because we tend to do

everything real big here in America. I'd like to point out that yesterday on his show, Steve Pachennik was on talking about how due process doesn't work in the United States. What's the problem? Get rid of it. What's the problem here? From day to day, anything can be true. Dan, I just need a guy in the department of justice who will throw people in prison. I don't know. I don't have any faith in courts. No, no. Oh man. Yeah. So I mean he had a very trusted guest talking about this guy's amazing. This is about the end of due process in America and it's not for me. It's for them. Why is it happening to me? Yeah. So Alex is primarily focused on Roger Stone's case, but he's also

you know, touching in on the impeachment inquiry. Sure. Largely his take on it is dismissive. You know, it's it's more or less not covering any of the substance of what's going on. Oh, yeah. Yeah. None of the things that are being said by like Bill Taylor or the former ambassador to Ukraine. They just sort of just letting a lot of that stuff. Oh, I think I think eventually gonna run reruns of HR puff and stuff and and all that stuff because they are they are not really happy with what's going on. It seems like Alex is in the same camp. He's not going the same route as a lot of these other media outlets that I've seen where their coverage is like, oh, this is boring. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks guys. He is. He's just like, it's a dog and

pony show. Sure. You know, so in terms of the impeachment, he has a weird theory about it and that's the next phase is the Democrats are now calling for there not to be a trial in the Senate. Just if the house votes that impeachment proceedings have initiated, well, they already had the trial. They're claiming that's not how it works with this show trial. And so the Senate doesn't need one. What? Because if they have a real trial, Trump will be totally and completely exonerated just like Roger Stone would have been in the Senate predicting that Roger Stone will be found guilty. I don't believe there's a lot of truth to what Alex is saying about like, I don't even need to do anything in the Senate. It's all taken care of here. I'm sure whatever procedure

needs to be taken, people would be fine with. And I don't think that I've heard many voices and Democratic or left sides have any faith that the Senate is going to vote to remove, even if the impeachment makes it through that. Oh, yeah. No, no, no. I don't think anybody thinks that that's going to proceed that way. Right. Well, nobody does. The problem is everybody on the right agrees. We can handle this and Trump is really trying hard to make it so they can't like if Trump would just be quiet. I swear to God, everything would be fine. They'd they'd keep up. They'd have 40 senators vote to exonerate him. He'd be fine. Everything would go on. He'd probably win the election, but he keeps tweeting and he's threatening a witness and they're like,

God dammit, shut up. We're saving you. We're trying. Yeah, it's a it's a little weird. Yeah. But then at the end there, Alex is saying that he predicts Roger is going to be found guilty. Well, yeah, that's because he did it. It's because he knows that Roger is fucking real guilty. So Alex, it goes on with his prediction here. And as you can see, very conveniently sets up the whatever the case, even if he's guilty, he's not guilty narratives. I am predicting that Roger Stone will be found guilty. Six counts probably by the rigged jury. And believe me, is it rigged? Remember, we exposed those in the news that a major Democrat official from the Obama administration, his husband worked in the Mueller probe was selected for the jury. When we exposed

that and said you shouldn't have Obama or Hillary or anybody else that work for him on a high level on the jury. They said I should be arrested for jury tampering when all I was doing was exposing corruption. Of course, it turned out it was all totally legal. But now we know that there are a bunch of other Obama officials and Hillary officials and spooks from the CIA are indeed on that jury. Sure. One juror clearly was supporting Stone. She fell down yesterday and hit her head and was replaced by an alternate juror as they call them. No, you can't make this up. Alex later says that she was like in a pool of blood. Like it's real sensational. What happened? I don't know. I was. I haven't. I haven't been following this. I just I like that. It's really

easy for Alex to come up with whatever disparaging thing he wants to say about some of these jurors because it's in D. C. Right. So the odds are in the jury pool. There are going to be some government workers history of civil service, perhaps and given that the last eight years prior to 2016 was during the Obama administration. It makes sense that some people might have some of that in their resume. Yeah. So you could make up whatever you want about any of these people based on a resume thing. Like I read a story that someone on the jury had had worked for the IRS. Great. Now we get to turn this into an anti tax fund. Fine. You know, whatever you want to do, you can do so great. The only jury they would accept is if everybody was a long haul truck driver, but they

were independent contractors and they all had Trump bumper stickers. Yes, absolutely. Yeah. So there's no indication that I can find that there's any foul play in the jury with Roger's trial, but it doesn't matter. Alex made such a huge prediction and production out of trying and failing twice to identify the potential juror who worked for the Obama office of management and budget. So now that narrative is firmly in place. That woman didn't make the jury. Alex was completely wrong about everything in that story, but because he established it as a clear indication of railroading, all he needs to do to prove to his audience that Roger was set up as to yell about that person who didn't even end up as a juror. It's real flimsy work, but it does work

apparently. Yeah, that's not fair. I can't find any evidence that an elderly woman juror who was pro Roger fell down and hit her head, which I'm sure Alex is bringing up to suggest was an inside job. Of course it was. I'm guessing this is just based on the person who collapsed in the courtroom on the first day of preliminary jury selection. That story went around when Roger was also poisoning or whatever. So she's she's turned into a woman who is hitting the head by a candlestick and we've got to get to the bottom of it. Yeah. Gotcha. There's no reason to think that person was even a potential juror, let alone an actual one. I would say it's probably impossible. They made the jury considering they collapsed and received medical attention on the day the jury

was being selected. So if that's what he's trying to bring in, I'm not sure. It's like the Michael Jordan flu game that she came back and she fucking nailed the jury questioning. I'm not saying it's impossible that someone was replaced by a alternate juror. That is entirely possible, but I can't find any real information about this. And later the only information Alex has is coming from Joe Biggs, right, was there right Rambo Joe big right. He was there at the courtroom and he says that the woman juror who gets replaced was anti Roger. So it's actually contradictory. So it's the other way around. Right. I don't see any reality to this. Right. Right. But it's what Alex needs because he knows Alex Roger is going to be found guilty and he needs defense. So Alex brings up

that he talked to Roger last night. He should not have done that. He should not have done that. This is an incredibly important point in human history right now. And I can tell you that when Roger is convicted and I'm almost always right. Maybe a miracle is going to happen. You know, I talked to him last night and he said only a miracle of God right now is going to stop this. And he said he wouldn't talk about what happened inside. He's not going to give the judge any reason to nail him even harder. So I talked to people who were in the courtroom and they said that the jury shakes with hate at him and stares at him like they want to kill him in their virtue signaling to the media and all of the intelligence agency operatives and Obama and

Hillary officials that are in there staring at Roger like they want to kill him. All right. So okay. This is not a fair trial. I mean if everybody's staring at him like he wants to kill him shaking with hatred, shaking with hatred. That's tough. I don't know if I've ever shook with hatred. I only on this show have I shook with hate. Yeah. I don't know if that's a common phenomenon. I don't believe any of this. This is just coming from bullshit Roger fans at the trial who are just trying to come up with whatever narrative is possible to impute the trial. That's all that's going on there. I imagine if I could guess at human behavior assuming that most of these people don't have a wide breadth of knowledge regarding Roger Stone that we do

rather than shake with age. They shake with hatred. They probably all just kind of rolled their eyes a bunch whenever he talked. They were like that's obviously bullshit. You can't say that in the court. You can say that out there. Roger didn't talk. He didn't take the stand. Nice. That's smart. He didn't even try and defend himself. Of course not. He did it. Yeah. How are you going to defend yourself when you have these text messages that you sent to Randy Krediko. Were you telling him prepare to die? Cox? Yeah. That one's tough to talk your way around. You have just like tons of literal evidence of you witness tampering. You got to plead the fifth course. You sent a note to one of the juror members that you'd give them

fifty thousand dollars. That's what kind of tampering you're doing. The only thing you have to like the only possible outcome of you testifying is being asked a question that you don't want to answer. Yeah. That's the only thing like whatever. Just like he from everything I can tell Roger and his team were just sort of like let's get through this. Yeah. And hope for a light sense. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's we don't want to plead guilty. We don't want to cause too much trouble. That would excite the sense that I can't do that. Yeah. So anyway whatever Alex has talked to Roger but he has to be very careful about what he says. All right. I have talked to Roger Stone. Last night and this morning and I've talked to a lot of the reporters that were in the trial

yesterday where the closing statements of the defense and the prosecution ended at 10 a.m. Eastern about two and a half hours ago. They began deliberations. Now Roger hasn't violated his gag order getting into the case with me. He just said that he leaves it in God's hands and that he's praying for a miracle. And then I talked to reporters like Joe Biggs Jacob Ingalls and others. Not reporters. Jacob Ingalls has been threatened with arrest if he talks about the Obama officials that they put on the jury not just the one that we exposed the judge removed but others. And as soon as the verdict comes out you're going to get to learn about

what is undoubtedly the fakest trial I've ever heard of in U.S. history. There is not a lot of information that he produces after the. Oh he doesn't. This is the fakest. No it's the fakest trial in American history. And I love the way that this always works is like he yells about something. The natural obvious real world conclusion of the thing happens. Then he takes credit for it. Yeah. Like that person wasn't going to make the jury. No. Then that's obviously not going to happen. He screams about it knowing that the person's not going to make the jury. We exposed it. We did it. We did it guys. Load of shit. We got one taken down. Unfortunately they had more than enough to convict him on account of he did it again.

Again. So the the the line tends to be that Roger didn't do anything wrong and that Trump obviously like Roger got Trump elected and like he needs to come through for the guy. Alex and Trump and Roger they were also connected and Alex says something really weird in this next clip. Hell I got invited once to Marlago and it goes to the secret tunnel but I didn't go because I had a family emergency. But you know Roger went and I'm not telling any secrets here. Wait. Wait. Wait. Not telling any secrets about the secret tunnel. How'd you describe that tunnel. I didn't know there was a tunnel there. Apparently it was a secret. Now that I know there's a secret tunnel I would like more information about this tunnel. Apparently Alex got invited to go

to the secret tunnel. Tunnels are not necessarily things that are very exciting except to children exploring around. You find a tunnel very exciting right as an adult. A tunnel is sort of a byway. Yeah. It's on the way to what now. That's the that's the secret. It's it's nice. It's it's good to know that our president really does lean into the supervillain James Von style aesthetic. Even his Mar-a-Lago estate has secret fucking tunnels. I would assume that that makes some sense though. Like yeah especially now that he's the president right like if he's going to be there a lot you got to have some like secure area that kind of thing. I'm sure I'm guessing that the secret tunnel was there a long time ago. Sure. Yeah. But even that kind of makes sense. You got to put

some some place where you can go into lockdown. Sure. I suppose you know. I don't. I don't think that it necessarily means something like there's a secret pizza gate basement or whatever. I'm not saying there's a pizza gate basement and I also don't think at least a Subaru. Sure. Maybe maybe he's got a little pedway down there. Got a food court. Yeah. I think that'd be great. Sure. Like underneath Willis Tower Sears Tower if you're Chicago. There you go. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know how secret this is because I have very little interest in finding out about the architecture of Mar-a-Lago and never have had much interest in that. That might be like a like a poorly kept secret or whatever. But I've never heard about it and Alex is the first person to

bring it up to me. So I feel like he's revealing secrets. I don't know. Yeah. But the truth is that the globalists just hated Stone. Roger because he gave Trump great advice. And so that's why they got enraged by Stone and were obsessed with him was because he was giving the president great advice because they go back 44 years now. And Stone used to be Trump's wingman dating and Trump's beard. And again Trump is not having a beard for homosexual sex. Beards go the other way too where your buddy goes out with you and your girlfriend when you're famous so people don't know that you're out with your girlfriend. They think it's their girlfriend. And that's what Stone and Trump go way back in is originally sometimes dating the same women. Okay.

I love. So is that something you want to say? I love that this is the level that we've reached. I know that Alex has brought this up before in the past. I know he seems very focused on it in this. Like now that Roger is on trial like he's really bringing it up. And I don't know if like this is an attempt to like humanize Roger. I don't know if it's an attempt to make us all think about Roger and Trump both having slept with the same woman and pretending that that's okay. Whatever it is is weird. Everything about this is weird. It's a family show. Why would you tell anyone that? That's the type of thing you don't tell people because that's very unrelatable. We used to date the same women. Yeah. It deteriorates from here even. How does it? And I can tell you

the two getting fights with each other too. I mean they Trump Stone talked straight to the president and they get big arguments and all the rest of it. So you fucked my girlfriends girlfriends that they that each other had back and forth. They never double tamed any chicks. I'm not trying to get graphic here but the media will you know spin all this stuff. Family show. Family show. The media is going to spin all this stuff. Right. I would say if they are adult people getting in fights over girlfriends that they share they are children. Yeah. I don't think this is a good defense. This makes Trump and Roger both look. They're lovely. Childish. Yeah. And a little bit a little bit territory a little bit possessive. If they have an understanding

where they can both date the same women then fighting over that woman is very gross. Yeah. That is an inappropriate type of behavior. You should if you're fought in for a penny in for a pound and I assume during this time it's turning that girl that you're dating this woman that you're dating into a thing that you're fighting over. It's shitty man. That sure seems to be something that Trump has a long track record of doing perhaps. It seems like it might be. So I don't think this is a good defense. I really wish that there was. I really wish the mainstream media would twist this story. And so I could get a fantastic Chiron of just stone and Trump Eiffel Tower and same woman and just moving it on or didn't. Oh didn't. Yes. Yeah.

Got to get ahead of the story. So like I said Joe Biggs was on the scene Rambo Joe Biggs Rambo Joe Biggs and here is him contradicting Alex's narrative about the replaced juror. We're expecting it to be just not good. You know we've seen that this has been a hit from the get go but we're all hoping for the best. We know one of the jurors got sick. She was a lady that would actually kind of snarl at the site of Roger. So she's not been replaced with someone else. So that could be good news. He never know. So Alex's position was that the replaced juror was someone who was pro Roger and was fairly taken out in order to make sure that he gets convicted hit with a candle. Apparently the person who was there on the scene Rambo Joe Biggs is saying that this woman snarled

at Roger. So her getting replaced is actually probably a good thing. Yeah. You can't have it both ways. I guess you have it both ways. You know what you can. It turns out you can. I forgot. I forgot. So Alex is kind of surprised like how much he's worried for Roger which I think is strange because the two of them got very close over the last few years. I would be surprised if he wasn't really worried for Roger. He's going to prison. Yeah. I don't think most likely. I don't think Alex is familiar with these feelings such as like I care for another human being. I still think it's primarily selfish and that like if Roger goes down I'm an X. Yeah. Absolutely. So I still think that there's a bit of a self self self centeredness to it. But he's surprised.

I'm really surprised how much I'm worried about Roger Stone. I mean I like the guy. I know the guy. He's a man. I'm a man. He knows the business. He's in dangerous game fighting these tyrants. But just to watch them systematically rig the media rig the indictment rig the jury and to learn the judge laughing and snorting and cackling and not letting him have any of his witnesses. Roger was not not allowed to have any witnesses. The defense didn't call any witnesses right because then they would be asked questions or those questions would lead to. Yeah he did it or the people that Roger could call. He would want to lie for him and no one would do it. Yeah. Like who would be his witness. Randy Cretaco not any

credit is testifying against him. Roger doesn't want to call Jerome Corsi to the stand. No no. There's no win for him in calling witnesses. No but it's really good for the court of public opinion. Like it's really good for Alex that Roger didn't take the stand. It didn't call any witnesses because externally you could look at that as the judge didn't let him take the stand. If only Roger could have got up there. He would have been Jack Nicholson and a few good man. Sure. He was going to put the system on trial. Jack Nicholson admitted to the crime too. So forget about it. Not important. It's a great scene. It's a great scene. He would have gotten up there and destroyed but because he wasn't allowed to. He was fucking

railroaded. It's a perfect thing. It's really good for Alex. Yeah. Yeah. So Alex says that he talked to Roger and part of that is that now he is going to deliver a message from Roger. And I think that this is not good for anybody. Donate me money to me. It gets to that. Of course it does. But I think that this is not good for anyone except Alex. If you look at this from a game theory perspective. Okay. Alex is the only person with a positive outcome. All right. I like that. We are going to have to stand up for stone and we're going to have to speak up for stone. And as soon as I was making some calls this morning people are like well we don't want to get stone in trouble. We don't want to get in trouble with this judge. This judge is not God

folks. She won't. She called for my arrest last week and then the whole law profession said no. What he did is totally legal and this is dangerous to have a judge saying you can't question jurors. Juror info is public. The entire law profession. The entire law profession. Came out. All of law. Alex is cool. Law. Okay. Doesn't matter if MSNBC says it isn't. But I can tell people that this is what Roger's wishes are. And so it's not just me up here coming up with a plan. Free Roger Stone. That's Roger's right. If he's wrongfully convicted. Just as you watch the media you'll say it's not to call for the president to pardon him. So Alex is introducing that he has a message from Roger and it's really crucial that he's

stressing that this is what Roger wants. Yes. Because the trial is still going. Right. This is a murky territory. I'm not sure anything is necessary illegal in that but it's a bad strategy move. I really don't like how often in regards to so much of this stuff we have to say I don't think it's necessarily illegal. It's a gray area. We were living in a place where a lot of stuff probably should be illegal in certain ways and none of it is. It's strange though the the technicalities. Yeah. Wow. You can get away with that. Yeah. We're all like way. You can just release somebody else's name who's not a potential juror for to to eject her to violence from your people and that's fine. Cool. Oh. So oh boy. Alex has Joe Biggs on the scene Rambo Joe Biggs. Right.

And he apparently is a part of a plan that Alex is launching which is Roger's wishes as he's expressed. Okay. And it's not a good plan. Just for more. Joe obviously you've been led in on the plan. And if and when he is convicted which I would expect to be this afternoon or tomorrow. It's good news. The longer they're out they've been out three hours now. We need everyone to go to the White House and surround it for days. We need more and more people to come there for due process and for justice and to say and to chant free Roger Stone. Again you just had Steve Pachanik on anti due process. Yes. But I think that there's nothing wrong with encouraging people to go to the White House and demonstrate. But I don't trust that Joe Biggs is going to be a

responsible person to be involved in that. Seeing as he has posted videos with a spiky bat or whatever threatening Antifa. He's down with the proud boys. Like I don't think that this the indication that Joe is quote in on the plan right leads me to suspect that this will be a very poorly carried out demonstration. You know I just always think it's a good idea to put a notoriously violent people in front of and leading a mob. I think that's just a great way to deal with things. I think it's irresponsible. Okay. If done if done with like you know correct permitting people behaving themselves and no proud boys. I would like that. Yep. The idea that people would go and just like hold signs and protest for Roger to get a pardon. I don't really necessarily think that's a bad thing.

I think it's a bad idea. Trump giving him a pardon would be a bad thing. Oh yeah. Which I don't think is actually likely at all. At least not until the possibility of Trump winning in 2020. Yeah. If he won in 2020 then I think there's a good chance he would pardon. But then again he pardoned Joe Arpaio and he just pardoned guys who got convicted of war crimes. Right. So I don't know anymore. Right. Well it turns out that America doesn't really care that much about war crimes or people who essentially create internment camps. They really care politically about Roger Stone. It would be a real shitty feeling if you're Roger and you see this news of Trump pardoning these guys. Roger's like God damn it. I should have killed three civilians. Why didn't I kill anyone.

I did was get you elected fucking president illegally committing all these great way. I shouldn't have said that second part. So Alex like he said already he has a message from Roger but he hasn't said the message yet. Ladies and gentlemen I've got a message to you from Roger Stone who's got a gag ball in his mouth politically right now and who is facing certain conviction in my view any minute now at the hands of a true kangaroo court and the railway that judge Jackson has built from the federal courthouse directly into federal prison for Donald John Trump's longtime wingman. Why are you emphasizing that again who Roger Stone really is not his chief political advisor.

He's that too but he is Trump's wingman and that's what you get for being this great president's wingman. He's trying to stress it because of I think he wants to really play up the idea that they're trying to attack Trump's support network personally right as opposed to it being Roger did things that are illegal right and he's going to be punished for it. I mean that's not a terrible angle there. No it's not but it's pretty transparent. The fact that you were you know seeing like why do you keep bringing that up. Like I said he has said that in the past but it's real pushed on this episode. He's really pushing that really hard and I think it is to personalize it. Yeah it's because if you think about him as Trump this is just Trump's buddy. They go

fucking hang out on the weekends. They have a good time and they're attacking just Trump's buddy. He's going to be punished for that premier rat fucker who's led who's helped regimes topple and genocides occur and all this shit. Not that Roger the Roger who likes to fuck with his buddy. Yeah. Hey so but he keeps teasing this message and it's very weird to me and I don't know what I think about it. And so at the bottom of the hour I've got Roger's message through me to you and I'm just going to leave it at that. I have to be very very careful about what I say because they'll try to use it to put him in prison longer but I obviously have talked to Roger and I'm not going to bow down to these criminals. Why would you tease this? Why would you say get

to it at the bottom of the hour? Why would you do that if you had a message a desperate message from Roger Stone that he wants you to disseminate to your audience? Right? Why would you do that? It seems like you would be like listen we're going to lead the show with this. This is really important. Roger is you know the jury is is deliberating as we speak. He is the political prisoner. You know you think that you would get to it. It's got to be a big message. I suppose in 20 foot tall flaming letters on the planet's vorby upstream is God's last message to his creation right something along those lines. I would feel like I get the sense that this is teasing for the sake of trying to build anticipation trying to get people to tweet about it. Yeah,

get more audience and then it's going to be it's going to be something about money. I see us. I get a sense of that because and you know what what's difficult about it is like the behavior of like getting to the news right ahead or teasing it is something that Alex could do with something that's real or fake right. I don't right right right. He is such a rangey unpredictable player with this sort of stuff that like a normal rational human. I would see that behavior as an indication that this isn't real right, but with Alex. I really don't know. I don't know. Yeah. Anything's possible. He's like a junk baller. Yeah, but he's going to get to that later. Coming down the road. But for now, he's got to get to big important news. Put that headline

back up for folks. Rolling stone. The witnesses calling it bizarre sacrifice parties at ed bucks meth mansion. Feds probe Adam shift dressed like Egyptian at bizarre sacrifice parties at ed bucks meth mansion 14 hours ago. See, I didn't even know that. Yeah, that's true pundit and rolling stone has an article about as well. I didn't even know that. I was telling you that he's a devil worshipping pedophile. Of course he is. Oh, wait. No. Uh oh. You're not understanding how news works. If you knew that and then you called him a demon worshipping pedophile. Hooray. Right. You can't just say it first and then be like, Hey, look at check that out. It turns out I was right. That's not news. Nope. First things first. Alex is doing one of his old tricks here.

He's taking a story that was published in a shitty right wing blog that never gets any stories right like true pundit and pretending it's a story in an outlet that has editors and operates by some standards like rolling stone. This is just a story on true pundit and like most of the shit on that site, it can just be ignored. But this story is actually really interesting. If you read the article, it says that Schiff was dressed in ancient Egyptian garb and the FBI is probing him as part of his routine presence at edbucks meth parties. Since the story is being reported, you might expect a law enforcement source. You might expect someone with the FBI giving a comment. You might expect a supporting story out of literally any media, maybe a local news outlet.

Schiff agreeing that he did it. Something you don't get that. This entire story is based on one source and it's a good friend of ours. Noted hard rice enthusiast Larry Nickle. Come on. Do not fuck off this article. This is not Larry Nichols. This is how how long ago was this? This is the first was in October. No shit. Yeah. All right. We're going to have to fucking call this motherfucker. This article includes a quote from Larry about about Adam Schiff quote. This guy is kinky. Oh, we're going to need to. We're going to need to talk to Larry about this, but he's you know, he's old. Don't call him now. We'll try to get a hold of it for comment on that. Who's got who's got Larry Nichols phone number but me anymore beyond the sourcing problems here. This article is

just horribly written given that Schiff was said to be dressed like an Egyptian. The article literally says quote. We can make a leap here that party goers were likely worshiping pyramids of math. This is terrible writing. We. Hmm. Okay. So so I understand correctly. Yeah. If you are dressed in Egyptian garb going to a party. Yeah. Chances are as we all know pyramids of math from our histories at meth parties. Yeah. Clearly it's a pyramid of meth. You bet. Gotcha. This is a perfect demonstration of something Alex does a lot. One of his associates often someone like Larry or John Rappaport will go and they'll lie to another media outlet that has zero journalistic standards. That outlet would publish Alex's friends claims with sensational headlines and no

scrutiny. Then Alex gets to turn around and report this as if it's solid objective reporting that is completely independent from him. It's an interconnected web of liars, but it's very interesting to see Larry Nichols getting back into the game. I haven't seen hide nor hair of him on Alex's show since September 21st 2017 when he threatened to blackmail Congress on air. That was a good day, but it would make sense for him to start getting more active now. Clearly Alex and he's not alone in this is trying to create the narrative that Hillary is secretly running in 2020. And if you need someone to smear people in Clinton's orbit, Larry is your guy. He has got the fake receipts for 30 years back. Totally. He's got all the fake receipts.

Anyway, the point here is that the true pundit story is shit until confirmed by anyone who knows what confirming things mean. For now, this is just Larry Nichols talking shit. Man, that's that would be that's a fun gig. True pundit where you get to you. Oh, it seems like he was wearing an Egyptian outfit. So we can assume it was pyramids of math. Well, what kind of place gives you the latitude to make that kind of assumption? Got to be a great fun gig. Yeah, that's a fun job. Yeah. If I were smart, I would go work for them. Yeah, of course. That's that's professional wrestling storytelling right there. Yeah, but at the same time, nothing they do can make me feel as good as when I'm listening to Alex tell a story and be like,

let me look into that. Ha ha, Larry. It's kind of that's true. That that moment of revelation is very exciting. Like Nichols is back. How is Nichols back? Well, I think that what's old is new again. Yeah, you know, and I think that as Alex is trying to ramp up into this this pretending Hillary is running again, what he's got to do or what he I don't know if he has to do this, but it makes sense to do it. You got to start going back to what worked last time. Yeah, you know, you ran a campaign against Hillary four years ago. Right. So what did you do back then? Well, bullshit that Larry said was really helpful. So start reporting on other outlets covering lies Larry says. Yeah. And then one of the other things that Alex tries to pretend wasn't what he did

is pizza gate stuff. And so what do you know? We start to see pizza gate shit pop back up. Some weird ass stuff, man. Hillary and her foundation head got caught shipping all those little black kids out of Haiti. A bunch of them ended up dead. Disappeared. I mean, I just you never hear a damn word out of Van Jones, man. Jones knows full well, they got a taste for black meat. They know those devil worshipers want that blood. They're going to get it. They're going to get the black babies too. And then Jones ain't going to say nothing about it because he knows where he gets the money from. So he can point at me and say I'm the racist because I don't want to kill

the black babies. And every other damn baby, they can get their hands on. A member of those Aleister Crowley sex rituals, they like the walnut sauce. They want the brown babies. That's what that is. And they're going to get your babies and you're going to like them for it because they're liberal. There are a whole lot of very legitimate critiques that you can make about the Clinton's work in Haiti. And it would be nice if Alex were interested in any of those, but he's not. Most of them are difficult to understand and he likes to keep those sorts of issues to a minimum. It's just so much easier to yell about dumb conspiracy theories about elites

kidnapping children to drink their blood. Way less work goes into that. What Alex is talking about with that Clinton's in Haiti case, it was a case involving an organization named New Life Children's Refuge and specifically the group's founder, Laura Sillsby. On January 12, 2010, there was a gigantic earthquake in Haiti. At least 100,000 people died as a result of the quake and the number is suggested actually to be much higher than that. Sillsby was arrested attempting to cross the border between Haiti and the Dominican Republic with 33 children, many of them who were not, they were not orphans, though they were heading for a makeshift orphanage. She was arrested along with nine other missionaries she was working with,

but charges against them all were dropped. Only she remained in prison, though when she received a trial, the charges were dropped from kidnapping to quote arranging irregular travel. She was found guilty and released having served her sentence already while awaiting trial. This story is an offshoot, pizza gate narrative. When that whole thing was getting going, it was decided by internet sleuths that this is how the Clintons got kids that they would then use to harvest adrenochrome and their blood drinking rituals and the non-existent basement of Comet Ping Pong pizza where we can assume there were pyramids of math. Yeah, Alex is quite literally just bringing back up pizza gate shit. And again, that's the same thing with the walnut sauce. That

was another pizza gate thing. It was something that the internet sleuths decided sounded weird in Podesta's emails. So they decided it must be code for pedophilia. This behavior is what you'd expect from Alex at this point. He's trying to run a campaign against Hillary again. Like I said, in the last time that involved a lot of pizza gate shit. He doesn't even realize how much of the stuff he thinks has to do with her. Like they came from Reddit and 4chan bullshit from that whole pizza gate thing, which is something he claims he never covered. But here he is. We're going on about walnut sauce and the Clintons kidnapping kids out of Haiti. This is all pizza gate. That's no good. We can't do. We can't go into reruns. This is lame. This is lame. I don't

want to watch fucking another. I don't want to watch Parks and Rec all over again, Dan. It's time for something new. Let's move on to the good place. We can't be doing this for. I think it's very interesting because he doesn't have good minds around him now and not to say that the minds he had around it before were good in in a broad sense, right, but they were creative. Yes. In the last election cycle, he had a brain trust of some real real fucked up people. Yeah, you know, he was working on all cylinders with Steve Pachennick, Larry Nichols, Roger Stone. You know, he had a lot of people who were real. You've got some of the big names in bullshit lying and and making up conspiracies that really stick with you. You know, they're there. You got to give them some

credit for having some conspiracy theories that penetrate into the larger consciousness and I don't think he has as good a people around him now or as competent people around him now. And so what do you do? Well, what worked last time just sort of revert back as best you can. Roger's going to prison. He's not going to have him. He's got to put some money in Roger's commissary account that he can smuggle some notes out on some ideas to smear people. Go visit him and write it down in crayon about the Raptors. That'll be great. Yeah. Oh, that'd be amazing. God, I want that to have. I hope he gets 50 years just so 10 years from now he can fuck with Carrie. So Alex again, he teases that Roger has an announcement. So I said I've got a message from Roger Stone to the world.

If I would say when he's convicted by that kangaroo jury, maybe I'm wrong, maybe God's going to intervene, but pray for Roger. And I'll do that. The jury could come out at any moment, but I'm going to do that start of the next hour now that I'm going to open the phones up. So he teases it again and you kind of get a sense of like what could be the delay. Yeah, he says that Roger said to make this announcement after the verdict verdict. Yeah. So that could be why you push back, but Alex does not wait. He doesn't wait until after the verdict because when he comes back, this is about three and a half hours into the show. He just goes ahead and makes the announcement of a message. I have a message for the world from Roger Stone. And that message is

your basic liberties, your basic freedoms and due process is under attack. And if Roger Stone can be found guilty on any of the six counts, seven against him by this kangaroo court and this Obama appointed tyrant fake judge, then no one in this nation is safe. So now what you have there is editorializing that isn't Roger's message, but Alex has set it up as Roger's message. Roger's message is that this is a kangaroo court. It's an Obama stacked jury. So now those sorts of messages appear to be coming from Roger, whatever Roger may or may not have told him. That's what Alex is presenting. Yeah, Alex's narratives about the trial are now intermingled with the presentation of Alex's message or Roger's message through Alex. So Alex wants all of it to be Roger's message,

whereas in theory, this is maybe what Roger told him. So Roger Stone's message is this. He expects to be convicted. He said only a miracle can save him now. That's his exact words to me last night and this morning. And he said to me, Alex, barring a miracle, I appeal to God and I appeal to your listeners for prayer. And I appeal to the president to pardon me because to do so would be a action that would show these corrupt courts that they're not going to get away with persecuting people for their free speech or for the crime of getting the president elected. If we don't do that, it will embolden their criminal activity.

The way Alex is delivering this, I don't believe it's an actual message. I think it may be some of the things are things Roger told him. If he was talking to Roger, I'm not entirely sure what I believe about this, but if Roger, I just know Steve Pachanik was in Korea at the time. If Alex did talk to Roger, I would assume he would say, you know, have your audience pray for me. You know, I would like it for Trump to pardon me. I could see if he did communicate with Roger that being what he said, but all the way that this is being presented, it lends itself to broadening what Roger's message was. And that's really bad because the stuff that Alex is talking about is about his case. That last clip, not the one we just

played, but the one before it about this being a Obama stacked jury kangaroo court, that is discussing the case. That breaks Roger's gag order. So if Roger said to Alex, I want your audience to pray for me. I appeal for Trump to pardon me. That might not be considered discussing the case, but the way Alex is talking about this and the editorializing it takes it into a place where he could fuck Roger over. That's why I kind of feel like Roger wouldn't do this. No, because he would know that Alex would do this. Absolutely. I don't know what's going on. You don't know if Alex, because Alex is going to read your man. He's reading it off of his hand. Like Roger says, hi, everybody. Thanks, mom. Please pray for me. But I mean, God, can you imagine

praying for Roger Stone? Oh, anyways, also burned the court down immediately following the verdict. I don't know. I don't know why he wrote that one. That's why. Anyway, it's an unreliable narrator giving us this message. I don't know what I believe. I'm, I'm suspicious. Let's say. So here's the last clip from the 14th and it's Alex discussing how like there's a plan if Roger is convicted. Now there's a press release and article on news wars.com and info wars.com that has the number to the White House on it. And even when he is convicted by this jury, it is vital that everyone share the information graphic posted at info wars.com and news wars.com with everyone you know on Twitter,

Facebook, YouTube, by hand, you name it, and that everyone who can in the area of Virginia or Maryland or West Virginia or all over the country, travel to DC anytime for the week after this conviction and encircle the White House with bullhorns demanding President Trump take action. So you see like the it's he's trying to control the narrative of Roger's freedom or whatever. And he's using it to funnel it into like advertising for info wars. Right. Like, hey, we have this press release. Everybody share it. We have an info, a specific info graphic that obviously is going to have info wars dot com. Well, yeah, for sure on it. It's going to be a great for wars branded bullhorns and it's going to be a promotional blitz. I do.

I do see a little bit of that, but whatever it's still not outs like it's not totally in the realm of like over the top Alex trying to profit off of Rogers, but it is controlling the space. Right. Right. Right. That's what I hear is his heart's not in it. He just knows he knows Rogers too guilty and he's any at the same time. He's like we got to try this. We got to do something. We got to try this whole like they're railroading him narrative, but I don't think anybody's really going to buy that. It's a tough side of what people liked about Roger Stone is how obviously criminal he was. Yeah, that's part of his appeal. Yeah, he even talks about that how like he plays up his villainous aspects because they're fun. Everybody is like, well, yeah, I mean, he should

probably go to jail. We just don't want him to go now. I guess it's a hard case to make that. It's like, wow, yeah, should have been in prison long ago. Yeah, you probably do. Yeah. All right. All right. You got him. Can you imagine just being a regular person praying for Rogers? Lord, I just we thank you for this meal and I hope Roger Stone's okay. Yeah. Come on. This sneaky top hat wearing villain from an old movie. Yeah, it seems weird. Yeah. So we jump in on the 25th and the 15th and he is the sound quality in this is atrocious. It is Friday, November 15, 2019. I am your host, Alex Jones. And as I predicted for weeks, and as I definitively said yesterday, Roger Stone would be found guilty on all counts.

He faces 50 years, ladies and gentlemen, for thought crime. Maybe the sound isn't obviously different yet, but like this first like five minutes or so of his show on the 15th is noticeably different. And so yeah, I mean, that's, you know, you're getting at these going to prison for 50 years got to make it as severe as possible. Yep. Yep. Great for thought crimes, thought crimes. I mean, you know, those, those thoughts that he had were crimes. That's true. He thought about committing crimes and then he did. Those are thought crimes. Yeah, I guess. So Alex now pretends that Roger is going to be on the show later. Ladies and gentlemen, he was completely and totally well-roaded. There is a good shop. If they don't take him into custody,

the hearing is still ongoing right now that he will be on the broadcast today. They have let him know that if he does speak out against it, the judge will throw the book at him even harder. The title of that clip is Alex pretends Roger is going to be on later. Yeah, fucking right. Absurd to imagine at best. He's going to call in after the sentencing until he gets a number. He is not talking to Alex at all because that number goes up by a day every minute he talks to Alex. It's conceivable. So in this next clip, Alex pretends that he is right about the jurors situation. But again, it's important because he did that in order to have a means a way in to attack the trial whenever Roger is inevitably found guilty. There has never

been a railroading like this. And remember, we exposed that there was a juror was a little Obama official. We got the name right and the other pro Miller probe. When we exposed it, for our arrest Jesus Christ, but the judge removed her off of the somebody's trying to fix the hissing jury. Yeah, that's that's crazy. That's the worst. That's the worst. It's real weird. That's bad. Yeah. And then Alex is like we got the name right. You didn't get the name right. No, you did terrible wrong twice. Yeah. Impressively wrong. Yeah. So the new point now is that if Roger goes to prison, he's going to be murdered in prison right like Epstein. Sure. That is the new angle and Alex expresses that here. This is the tyranny and this is a warm up

for President Trump and President Trump hasn't gotten Assange out of jail. He could when he told Assange to release the WikiLeaks. That's a big black mark on the president and if he doesn't pardon Roger Stone, well, then I mean, I got to tell you no matter how many good things Trump does doing this to Assange and letting stone hang out to dry. If he does this, I just don't know what I'm going to do. We need to call the White House right now. 202-456-1414 and tell President Trump to pardon him. Don't let him get their hands on him. They'll put him in solitary confinement. God knows what they'll do to his food. These people mean business and they need to kill him. Yeah, they mean to kill him. So we hear there like a first indication of Alex being like,

if he doesn't pardon Stone, I don't know. He's going to be put in solitary confinement. Who cares? I mean, not who cares. If they put him in solitary confinement, I'm against that. But when I say who cares, I mean, who cares about that stuff because that's secondary to me, then Alex's point that if Trump doesn't pardon him, I don't know what I'm going to do. I don't care about all the good stuff he's doing. If he's leaving Assange and Roger Stone out to dry like this, I don't know. I can't because I think that what Alex is starting to realize is that he will also be left out to dry along with literally everyone. You stupid fucking morons. We told you this is going to fucking happen. Alex is starting to he's starting to realize that there is no

honor among thieves. No, starting to realize that Trump does not give a fuck about these people. No, but he is there is no protection for him for him. He will be tossed aside as easily as these other people are. These guys have never read a fucking book. That's like all the Lord of the Ring series is about. So Alex, now he's saying that Roger is not only facing 50 years in prison, he's facing maybe a hundred and I'm making a prediction here. I've actually looked at the seven charges and the judge, I believe can twist it. She may give him more than 50 because these monsters want you to know they'll put you in prison if you stand up for America. He is a modern thought criminal who has done nothing. Come on. And Trump told Julian Assange

release the WikiLeaks. He did and I'm not an occult. I like Trump way more than Hillary and I think he's done a lot of good things, but I got to tell you. I don't know what I'm going to do if Trump doesn't pardon the stone. His 40 plus year wingman. These guys have dated the same women whole nine yards and they fix the hissing. If Trump follows his pension for hanging people out to dry that got him elected. I don't know what I'm going to do. I don't know. I think he's facing a moment of like I can't. This is the good chance. This is how I can get out of this. This is how everything can change. I can retain all of my narratives about Trump, about how he was doing all these good

things. He can retain everything. He doesn't have to turn on Trump. He doesn't really even have to. He can just say like, yeah, you know what? Everything that we saw that was good in him was good. We were right to do that. Trump is just, you know, he's not strong enough to stand up to the swamp. The deep state is too powerful. He can ret con a whole bunch of stuff through this and it's something that the audience will probably see as acceptable. He won't stand up for Julian Assange and Roger Stone. I realize that there's a real problem with this. I can stop supporting him or I can pivot. Whatever this is, it's a perfect opportunity for him. I think he sees it. Yeah, I sees the light window. Well, I mean just the the very obvious verbal pattern he has of saying

I'm not trying to brag and then he brags if he's saying I'm not saying I'm in a cult and then he changes it. You're like, oh man, your words get it. I don't know if you get it in your head, but your subconscious is like I'm sent. Oh shit. I'm in a. I was in a cult. Yeah. Fuck. Fuck. I got the, it's the Nigerian email scam all over again. Yep. It is big, big picture. Yep. So Roger did nothing wrong. Stone hadn't done a damn thing except get Trump elected and these monsters are going to use this as the beta test with their jurisdictions to go after everybody and try to put them in prison where I live in Travis County, try to put Rick Perry in jail for no reason, put Tom delaying jail till he got it out on appeal. It's so funny to remember that Alex's

big documentary end game literally ends with a shot of Alex bullhorning Rick Perry's house late at night, accusing him of being a globalist stew. And all they did was try and get him arrested for something they made up his main documentary that he says proves all of his claims leaves the viewer with a shot of him attacking Rick Perry. But now the Perry is in with Trump. He's just a good, upstanding American who wants what's best for the country. Yeah, dude's so spineless. He's globalist now. He's not so good as for the case that Alex is talking about. This is what we talked about on a recent 2013 episode where Rick Perry was trying to force a Democrat DA out of office by defunding her office if she refused to resign, which is not cool.

He was indicted for that, but the charges were dropped after he appealed when he was out of office himself. Yeah, that's that. That's the case that Alex is talking about. That's fucking crazy. I believe that was under the fine. Just go away law. Sure. So that's nonsense. Whatever, like they're trying to use those as examples of like it's just like this, like no. And wait, you shouldn't like Rick Perry. Why do you like it now? Yeah, it changes on a daily. Yeah, due process should be abandoned in this country. Dan, Steve, Jen, you were a Roger Stone is not getting that due process and I don't know why I'm mad, but I'm mad about both. So Alex, like I said, I think he's starting to realize that Trump is a disloyal bad actor.

These people are so stupid. And President Trump has not stood up to the racketeering and the attack on the press. The independent press has not stood up to the organized racketeering of big tech coming after even members of Congress and blocking them. And I know it feels great to say, Oh, Trump's wonderful. And you know, everything they do against him doesn't stick as it's made up. Great. What about us? What about the president protecting the American people? Are they going to come and die at me? Have another rigged jury? And then Trump just sits there and plays golf and talks about how he's a stable genius. You remember what happened that night? We ought to find the clip.

2 a.m. when Trump came out. And Hillary wouldn't even concede. She was drunk, collapsed. I looked at your lab on there and I said, you get ready. They're coming after us. He goes, we'll have Trump. We'll have the president. I said, buddy, you better get ready. They're going to put us in prison or kill us. On TV, I told him the next day I talked to that parking lot. I got him by the arm and I said, buddy, guard yourself for true. Stay with us. We're in attack formation. Guard yourself for true. Another dune thing. I don't know what that music is, but they play it a bunch during this episode. And all I can make out from the lyrics is you keep coming back for more,

which also seems almost thematic. I don't know. I don't know what's going on. His what the people that work for him still don't know how to run his soundboard still still. I don't know. It almost and now we're and somebody is playing like six times. Somebody's choosing the music who's clearly fucking with him from time to time. I've seen plenty of evidence of them playing a very on the nose. Well, they played that Depeche Mode song like you had something to hide while he was introducing the that's what I was listening to the Roger announcement. I'm sitting there going like, do you know? Yeah, there it seems like there's weird but something going on. Much of that is over analysis. I don't know, but this song is glaring

like it plays over and over again in and out of breaks to the point where it's very noticeable. Like I don't think I've ever heard an episode where he's played something more than twice. Yeah, like sometimes he's like, I want to hear that again. You know, like that'll happen every now and again, but that seems so on the nose. Yeah, but I could also totally see one of those people like accidentally deleting the Spotify playlist and then they just play it over. Like that's how stupid and incompetent these guys are so far. Definitely. That's why it's hard to make a conclusion. Yeah, but it's notable in the fact that it keeps happening. Yeah. So Alex is mad because Trump is tweeting, but he doesn't want tweets. Roger Stone got Trump elected.

The listeners of the show got Trump elected. Matt Drudge got Trump elected. The truth got Trump elected and I love Trump. You guys were doing great. I'm here to tell you, like I said on your show, I said, we don't need tweets from President Trump about this. We need action. We don't need a couple tweets from President Trump saying this is a miscarriage of justice and then and then nothing. We need action action now. So yeah, I mean, he's sick of the bullshit that Trump's feeding him and he's realizing I'm not safe. No one's. None of our allies in this propaganda game that we've been running for the explicit purpose of defending Trump. None of us matter. Yeah, none of us. No one's going to be like, Hey, I've spent the last three, four years of

my fucking life going out of the my way to carry water for this fucking asshole, abandoning everything that I knew except white supremacy. I was allowing Mike Cernovich on my show. You understand purpose it's crazy and like now there isn't anything that you get for it. You will be you will be sacrificed if it is necessary. I don't know what it's like to have a kid, but that moment I imagine of you having told this child over and over and over again, the same thing and then never learning and then eventually them coming up to you and being like, you know, I realized that this guy really doesn't like me and isn't paying attention to me and thinking that that's something that they're coming to on their own when you're like, I've been screaming that at you for four years.

You idiot. So at this point, Roger actually hasn't been convicted yet, but Alex is acting as if he has right because this is still like at the jury deliberation, but it's like we all kind of know he did it, which is interesting because if I hadn't told you that you would have thought that he got convicted before the show. Oh, for sure. But yeah, he didn't. Oh, okay. So Alex talks now about the last time that he talked to Trump need to pardon him. You pardoned our pile. We got that to you. Trump didn't even know about it when we got it to him. You heard a pile come on and say, no, Roger Stone, Alex Jones got to Trump. Yeah. Last time I got to talk to Trump was like a year and a half ago. And I'm like, listen, you know, they're putting the sheriff in prison. What I didn't hear

that. What do you mean? You had a trial and no, no, the judge is doing it. Well, the judge can't do that. Yes, Mr. President, we need you to pardon him. They're coming after him because he released documents showing you were being spied on. They got from the DEA. We released the original NSA documents. Wait, wait, how do you know about that? How do I know about it? I was telling you about it a year ago. Well, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm like, listen, I don't need you to tell me how great I am. They take you out. They're going to get me next. I need you to go after them. Couple things about that last clip. One, if that retelling of events is true, which I'm almost certain it's not, then if I were Trump, I wouldn't talk to Alex again either. That retelling is

clearly an instance of Alex lying to the president in order to get a racist authoritarian pardon for crimes he was absolutely guilty of. Two, the documents Alex had were from Dennis Montgomery. We did an entire episode about that bullshit titled the Dennis Montgomery investigation. You can go and listen to that if you want to understand it fully. None of these documents were real. None of them proved Trump was being spied on and none of them were from the DEA. Why would the drug enforcement agency be involved in any of this? That should be a good dead giveaway that Alex is just kind of making shit up. Three, the reason that Arpaio was going to prison was contempt of court. That is true, but that doesn't really get to the heart of the matter.

Arpaio had been the subject of a very thorough investigation and it was found that his police department in Maricopa County operated in ways that violated citizens rights. His department had a flagrant pattern of racial profiling that quote reached the highest levels of the agency and it was so severe that the department was stripped of its ability to legally identify and detain suspected undocumented immigrants. That's how bad their patterns were. They know again, I'm against shorter prison sentences. Arpaio is the only person that I can think of right off the top of my head that I want to rot in jail for the rest of his life. He should rot in jail for the rest of his life due to many lawsuits involving his

inhuman treatment of detainees. The court told Arpaio that changes had to be made to his department. Arpaio refused to do what the court said he had to do. He was given many warnings. Then in January, 2015, years after he had every reason to understand that the way he did business violated civil rights, he was held in contempt of court. The case went on until July, 2017, at which point he was found guilty of criminal contempt, but that charge is not just some minor charge. That guilty charge is the front facing mask that's covering up years of racist and abusive police practices that Arpaio refused to change. I know it goes without saying, but the contempt of court charge means nothing to Alex. The reason Arpaio got a pardon from

Trump, the reason that Alex fought so hard to protect him was the racist abuse of policing that characterized his career. When they defend Arpaio, that's what they're defending. Not some kind of bullshit, a judge can't send you to jail nonsense. You don't need a jury to hold someone in contempt of court because a jury already decided the case that contempt is based on. Alex knows this. He just doesn't care because he needs to make his white identity beliefs look like a defensive rule of law in order to make it marketable to a larger audience. That's all that's going on here. So fuck this, fuck this nonsense. Another bad example for him to tie to Roger. So now we get to the point where Alex announces Roger has been convicted.

And I had my baseball cap sitting next to me and it says 1776 on it. Yes, it's an M4 store. Nice designer hat made in 1776. 1776 is on the front. It's a brand I came out with about seven years ago. Wow. Little hat I designed. The Revolutionary War. I just wear it on air. I just wear it when I'm out. And I thought when they convict Stone today, probably when I'm on air, I'm going to wear that 1776 hat. And right before I went live, I said, hey, I left it in my bathroom. We will get my 1776 hat. And right as they walked in and handed it to me, they go, Roger Stone convicted. Now that's not some psychic event. That's like watching somebody in a bullfight get run over

by the ball and the bull's horn go right through the man, a door's heart and blood spray everywhere. That dude's going to die. So that seems like a plug for his hats. That was more hat centric than Roger Stone News Center. Yeah, I was more about the hat and the long journey it took to get to the hat. It took us a while to get there. Yeah. Followed by and see, I'm not psychic. I mean, he was obviously going to get fucked. Right. I think we all knew that. Yeah, but not the getting fucked. No being found guilty. Yes, the thing that I think is going on here is that Alex recognizes that almost everybody who hears the news. Roger Stone has been found guilty is immediately going to go to info wars. Yeah,

immediately they're going back Alex is going to freak out. This is going to be like I heard from people who listen to our show. It's like I I've never listened to his show live. I had to go immediately to find like to watch this. I think I think he probably got a gigantic boost in audience. I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah. And so why not use that as an opportunity to like sell these great hats. Right. I decided I was going to wear this when Roger was found guilty in honor of the Revolutionary War. They're great hats. Well made. Zellam 1999 1776 you get a discount. Yep. So Alex now has a situation where all eyes are on his show. He's probably he's probably at least somewhat aware of that. Yeah. It's hard to tell how

much exactly he considered self-immolating. He knew that enough people were watching that it could have really done some good. I don't think that's the case. Okay. He's already said that Roger might be on, but he knows that that's not true. No chance, but he does have some guests Paul Watson coming on to talk about big victories in Europe. Huge awakenings against the globalist. Very exciting things. He just traveled to the big national sovereignty day of Poland, which has been called white supremacist nations even existing is evil now. We're going to get to that next segment, but I wanted him to respond to this and I'll open the phones up at the start of the next hour than Larry Nichols, who is the consummate Clinton insider.

He's got big intel on Adam Schiff and Ed Buck and the satanic rituals that went on there. Holy shit. Larry Nichols is back. Larry Nichols is on the show. Larry Nichols is back. He's had cancer for 45 years now. He has been dying Jordan for 45 years. Jordan, I gotta tell you the kids are evil. I get that they're evil, but I think you're for hamming up this whole dying thing. I don't know what the case is with that. I don't want to, I don't want to sit here and mock what is may or may not be legitimate illness. Sure. I don't, I don't know what the deal is with that. And I don't like, I think there's so many other things you can talk about with Larry that that's so far past what I'm even interested in,

but it is, it is interesting. He's back. I mean, just the day before on the show, he started reporting on a bullshit true pundit articles that are based on Larry's reportage. So it makes sense. Let's get Larry back in here. So, so does Larry reach out or does somebody read? So did somebody from true pundit where they're like, I got some bullshit. I need to, I gotta check with Larry or is Larry like sending out texts from time to time? I know exactly how this works. And we'll get to it once Larry comes up, but it's, it's much less confusing than you might think. So Alex, like I said, I get the sense that Alex recognizes that there's more people listening because instead of covering Roger's shit in detail,

here's what he does going into 2020. There's so much happening. The only way we're here is your word of mouth getting around the sensors, which is amazing and buying products. So I was going to before Paul ever came on, talk about DNA Force Plus. It's back in stock with the CoQ 10 and the PQQ and more. And so I pulled a bunch of research on it. I was going to do a whole segment on it. It's our flagship product that I never really talked about properly. And now this all happens. So I'm not going to have time to get to it now, but here's the folder of research of just this morning that I printed off. Mainline science, Nobel prizes about CoQ 10 and PQQ. Notice again, he's using the trope of the folder full of proof. I got the folder. I got a binder full of women.

That's for sure. This is a long clip, but I wanted to play this just so you can hear the sort of mundane banality of it. This is the same segment of his show when he announced Roger got found guilty. It regrows mitochondria in the brain cells that nothing else can do until your damaged brain cells. 50% of people have massive damage in the mitochondria in the brain cells. I mean, it all timers everything. They will not tell you about this though. And it's all here. So 50% off. It's the one thing everybody should give themselves. Anybody above 40 should be on it, but young people should take it as well because it has the PQQ, the CoQ 10, and then it's got all of the other things known as the fountain of youth by the

Japanese, the Rishi mushroom, the stragglass root, the stragglass other cream and a lot of stuff in there. Systems that all work together in synergy. And you get a little bit of bottles of PQQ or CoQ 10 for $40, $50, $60 that aren't even as strong or aren't from an organic source like these are. Think about that. Okay. This I'm thinking similar formulas are sold for $300, $400 at medical clinics, not as prescription by the doctors. So is he going to jail? Because people, they want to mark these up four, five, six, seven times. How long does it take to deliver that at a whole foods? But if a doctor does it, they'll get it from them because the stuff does cost so much. Roger lawyer have a statement. $60 a product

in something where you got to sell it for $200, $300 for all your marketing and legal and your bills and your development and manufacturing. I signed a big two year contract on this to get even more. Really? We're still going 50 bucks a bottle. We're paying 30 something bucks a bottle and so you can get it for 70 something dollars discounted right now. Nobody gives you this product at this quality for that price. 74.98 right now. It's our most expensive product and it's absolutely amazing. I take one pill every night when you go to bed is the best way to do it. And if you're really older and got issues, take a lot of it and see what happens. What? See what happened? It's documented to create new mitochondria makes telemeters last longer,

doesn't grow them, makes them last longer. Half full, half empty. It's the same thing. No, the carburetor makes the gas go longer. It doesn't make the gas tank bigger. It just makes the gas go further. But it's the same thing. So DNA Force plus get it today and funding info war a total 360 win. This is insane. Like that was a long clip. Yeah, that was long three minutes of his show. He dedicated to talking about this DNA force in a in an infomercial way in the time when he would be most likely to have the most eyes on his show. If I were looking at this cynically, I would say that's an intentional decision. No. He just got the news that Roger's going to prison. You got found guilty. I mean,

we say going to prison. I understand that he still has a chance of an appeal. You know, the process isn't finished and all that. I think we're speaking a little bit presumptuously, but all signs appear that he's probably going to prison. Yeah. And Alex's first response is to talk about this great hat. He decided to wear whatever Roger. It's a really good hat. He does a three minute infomercial for DNA force. Really good force. It's fucking weird. And also he's got a tie in with Disney Plus. It's a whole cool thing, but he does. He's not going to announce that just yet. Strategically, it seems like hey, we have the audience that we are unable to capture in any other way. Yeah, let's see if we can move some of this stuff. Somebody's in his ear with

like a hey, we're at twice the number of normal listeners. Look, look, get it. Yeah, it seems like that. Yeah. So now he gets Paul Joseph Watson in who you mentioned went to that independence march in Poland. Right. Right. Right. Which we have talked about in the context of Stefan Molyneux, I believe. Right. But it's interesting because the the misconception I suppose around that. And granted, I haven't looked into the dynamics of this year's March, but as it related to Stefan, he was going to whitewash that because the year prior there had been a bunch of people with Nazi signs and whatever. And that was outlawed. So he went to the sanitized version in order to create the appearance that all the recording about the years prior the year priors March was

all bullshit and the left being out of control. I don't know what this year's was. I don't know what Paul's doing there. If he wants to just go to a Polish Independence Day parade, I don't care, but I do see it as signaling, you know, because of Stefan going and making a big deal of endorsing white nationalism after going to Poland, it has become a bit of a thing in this community. Yeah. So I see that as kind of a tip of the hat. I there's no way that you could and I'm not saying that Paul, I'm not saying that nobody could want to just go to the Polish National Independence Day march. I could probably that's that's it. Yeah, no, it's very cool. It's I've never even been to Poland. I'd love to see all of those things and anytime you're at a national parade. That's very

cool. But Paul Joseph Watson does not just go to the Polish. He lives in England. He does not just go to the fucking parade. I agree with you, but I also slightly disagree. I don't I don't know. I would say going not a big deal talking about it and being like a everybody says it's a racist parade. That's kind of like okay. You're doing that on purpose. That parts a hundred percent on purpose. I don't know. I don't really care though. And again, I should stress, I have not kept up a ton. Like I don't know exactly what's going on now, what the dynamics are. So I'm probably not in the best place to speak about it. But Paul is on and he does not seem very optimistic about Roger's prospects. Oh yeah. Will we see the pardon? Will we see Trump actually follow through on something

that he said this is going to antagonize the base if he doesn't. But you know, he's let us down before. Hopefully he can step up to the play now. Well, there's also this whole cult out there saying we shouldn't criticize Trump and demand what he said he would do. You were in that cult. We're undermining Trump. No, we're not. We got Trump elected. Damn it. And I'm not going to sit here and see my innocent friends sent to a damn prison by these criminals. I'm getting pissed, man. I want him now. He didn't do anything. That song is back man. Paul does not seem like he has any faith that Trump is going to do anything. And Alex is furious. No man. You guys. Paul didn't get duped. Paul had to know. Yeah. Paul had to know that I think I think Paul knows that he I think Paul knows that

Alex would abandon him too. Yeah. I think I think Paul's the only one here who's like I I know that I know what the score is. He's trying. I'm choosing from a place where I know what I'm doing. He's tried to protect his brand a little bit. You know, like he's done videos that have come out where he talks about like I'm not into conspiracy theories. Yeah. Yeah. Like he's tried to present himself as being above this stuff. And to an extent like he's been far more willing to criticize Trump than Alex in the past. Right. He's had a he's still on Facebook and Twitter or whatever. He has he has a little bit more of a like a position to say like come on Alex. Yeah. Then then anybody else around but I still think it's weird to say he didn't get

duped because he probably did somewhat but just not nearly as bad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And well anybody who voted for Trump got duped unless they're a billionaire. He kept some. Well he can't vote. Yeah. He's in he's in a lot of it. No. I just mean like on a general basis. I'm not saying that he yeah. I would look at it as somebody who diversified their portfolio as opposed to someone who is all in on one stock. That's fair. I think he put a little bit of like some of his stakes elsewhere. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good way of putting it. And because he's so singularly focused on culture war nonsense. It doesn't matter too much about Trump for him. Right. All of the like insanity of the left and all that it still plays even if he turns on. Right. Right. It's

more about like abortion and shit. Sure. Or even far more artificial issues. Yeah. Someone yelling on a campus. The war on Christmas begins earlier every year. Yeah. So Alex has seen some stuff during the breaks apparently of people on like MSNBC making jokes about how Roger has a tattoo of Nixon. So Nixon's finally going to prison. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's that. Look that's on Roger. That's on Roger. That's his fault. Yeah. Yeah. Alex is you know you have to take those. You have to the answer 1776 and information warfare and getting aggressive before things really commence in physical 1776. I'll watch and brought it up from summit dot news. Here it is. Gateway punnet dot com. Here's the video and set up this impeachment inquiry as we look live inside

the the hearing unless Chris Wallace has any more tattoo news. Let me just say somebody sent me a picture of if you Google it you'll be able to see it. As Judd Starr said it's a very good likeness of Richard Nixon that is there right in the center of Roger of Roger Stones. Let's try to get that. Okay. So in any case moving forward but it is not I'm not a crook. It's not that one. No. I know he is mad. Yeah. You mad Alex. I look. Hey you're bet you one of your best friends is going to jail. I get not wanting other people to laugh at it. Yeah. It's on him. I understand. But yeah. You're only real but like to stand on is I'm mad. They're making fun of him. Yeah. Yeah. And that does that's not a great political stance. Anyway so on our on the last episode of Alex's

show the November 14th. He did that real muddy reading of Roger's message that he wanted him to deliver. Yeah. Now the verdict has happened. Alex gets a text allegedly from Roger's lawyer and this is one of the more ironic clips that I've ever heard. Let me just show people the type of stuff I've got. I'm going to cover up the phone number and the name on this. But this is the type of stuff that I get. I'm just not going to show it on air. You're reporting almost got Roger taken into custody immediately upon the verdicts. The government cited you and argued for immediate imprisonment. Please be cautious about your comments concerning private communications. I think this is one of the lawyers not a member

of the press. Think about this. They intimidate everybody. Say don't name the whistleblower. Don't say when they're putting Obama officials on the jury whose husband works in the Mueller probe. Of course you're not supposed to do that. That's not jury tampering. That's the press has a right to go. This is outrageous. Look at this. So what's going on here is that the way that Alex behaved on the November 14th show could be argued to indicate that Roger had broken his gag order through Alex. Yeah. So that is what the prosecution was saying in terms of holding him right after the verdict which the judge didn't decide to go along with but did continue his gag order. Yeah. Intel sentencing which makes sense. But what I find amazing about that

is that this lawyer is contacting Alex apparently who knows if he's making this up. I don't know if he's making it up because the framing the phrasing of it is so like what someone would say. But the guy is telling him be careful about what you say about private communications. And then Alex is repeating this private communication. Yeah. This is crazy. See now. I think I buy it just because of that line actually just because the line is not. Hey shut the fuck up or yeah. You got to be quiet about this. There's too many powerful people looking. It doesn't work well enough for what Alex's narrative is. Please please don't reveal too much information. Yeah. Man. What a fucking idiot. Yep. So the fun thing about that though

is that this is him not being able to understand in real time. Like that's that's really interesting. If that is genuine then he's even turning a genuine ostensible allies words into the conspiracy theory reality as opposed to that. Roger Stone's lawyer being like hey be nice to your friend. You don't want him to go to jail right away. You know he's turning that into a conspiracy theory. Yeah. So at this point Paul is offended that Roger is going to get 50 years in prison for this. And then Alex starts yelling. The other thing I'm reading Alex is that normally people would get about six months prison time for this. But Roger Stone faces up to 50 years which is basically a death sentence. Stay there. Paul Joseph was just came back from Europe where

the awakening is accelerating and I predict this attempt to intimidate the American people will backfire. We'll see what this country's made of as for me. Full speed ahead. No surrender. Victory or death. OK. All right. So the most serious charge that Roger was convicted of is witness tampering which is the result of him trying to threaten and intimidate Randy Credico into pleading the fifth. Generally speaking people don't tamper with witnesses unless they know they're guilty and looking for a way to subvert justice. I don't understand. So I think it's appropriate for courts to take it pretty seriously. I tell whenever I tamper with witnesses I'm like tell them I am guilty. That'll trick them. It is true that sometimes people

only get six months in prison for witness tampering. That's fair. A lot of it has to do with the context of the underlying crime. For instance Ted Clout was a GOP member of the South Dakota House of Representatives. In 2007 he was arrested for sexually abusing his foster daughters among other charges. He ended up getting a pretty steep sentence but in addition he got 10 years added for attempting to tamper with witness testimony. That's a super serious offense so tampering with witnesses in that case is a huge deal. In contrast there was a case in 2015 where a husband and wife got a six month sentence for witness tampering but it was surrounding a drug arrest. Whereas the tampering was still serious and needs a consequence it was not nearly as

serious as a former state representative abusing foster children. So the court deals with the witness tampering on a sliding scale. Right. Hey don't say I had weed six months. Hey don't say I'd go to fucking hell. I'll see you there. Roger's case falls on the more serious side seeing he was trying to subvert a federal investigation. Alex can make all the arguments he wants about how Roger did nothing wrong and all that but if that really were the case I don't think he would be trying so hard to get credit code to stay silent. Roger did that for a reason and the only plausible explanation that comes to mind is that he felt that Randy Kredico talking would be bad for him. Yeah. So I don't know. The six months thing. Yeah. I mean it's technically fair but that is also

just it's intentionally obtuse about what the way these charges are added. Yeah. Yeah. So whatever and that's the most serious one. That's the one that carries a possibility of 20 years as I understand but again he's not going to get all that time. It's nonsense. It's a you know it's it's it's cliche to point this out but man you can fucking steal an election and you're only going to wind up getting a few years in America. You know I'm stealing an election is such a vague term. There's a lot of you know whatever. Yeah. Anyway they go to they go to break there. Alex screaming freedom or death or whatever. Sure. They come back from break and Alex is on the phone. So Paul Joseph Watson tries to cover and come in you know and do some stuff but then Alex jumps

in and tries to reset while Paul is trying to reset himself. It's very strange. He's just jumps in and he's like shut the fuck up Paul. I got something to say. Not really. Okay. He's trying to reset so he could throw it to Paul even though Paul is already talking. These guys are wild. This is very strange. We are live and we're talking about what happened in Poland while Alex Jones makes a very important phone call going to get back into that breaking Roger Stone news here in a second. That's right. That's absolutely right Paul. I am literally talking to folks right now. I can't say who. There's just tyranny at levels. I've never even heard of before and I'm just going to leave it at that. I've got some reporters. I've got to talk to you real quick and then I'll be

right back on with huge news for everybody in full wars dot com for a show to report top link to us. Very thankful for that. Roger Stone giant show trial came to an end jury 50 years is what he's facing. All seven counts totally rigged. And so I'll be back with you in a few minutes. But good news is happening. There's a global awakening. They're trying to intimidate us. Paul just got back from Eastern and Central Europe and give you a big report. Paul Joseph Watson summit dot news. I'm Alex Jones back in about four minutes. Yeah. So OK. All right. You can hear almost even a little laugh. Yeah. He was like all right. All right. Whatever. Yeah. And I think that this is indicate like that behavior also runs in line with me

thinking that he's becoming aware that he has a big audience right now. He said that Drudge is top link to us. We appreciate it. He comes in because he's like OK people are tuning in expecting to see Alex. Paul is coming in from commercial. Yeah. Is that going to confuse people. I got to come in. Establish my presence. I'll be back in a few years. Paul Joseph Watson summit dot news going to tell you all about these European problems. Yep. So Paul gets to talking about violence around Europe by these migrants. And I don't really care. It's all sort of the same stuff you always right. Prattles on about refugees show up. But I think that I'm going to play a tiny clip here because I think it's really interesting. He's citing a professor here who's

talking about violence in Sweden. Right. And listen to the way he cites this professor because I think it's very strange to hear this on Info Wars. The Swedish state itself is in jeopardy. He said the state's monopoly on violence. The actual token of a sovereign government has been hollowed out bit by bit. So wait. Hold on. The monopoly on violence is the token of a sovereign state because I thought that Alex hates the idea of the monopoly of violence being in the hands of the state. I thought that he thinks that that's a sign of tyranny. Wait. I'm going to need. OK. The larger context of this is that there are like people committing crimes in Sweden to the to the extent that these monopoly on the ability

to exert violence and power is taken away from the state which is what Alex so think should think is good. I mean not necessarily migrant people committing crimes or whatever. The narrative is here. But Alex is strongly opposed to a power monopoly being in the hands of the state. That is something he talks about all the time. Yeah. He talks about that being the enemy of sovereignty as opposed to Paul who is saying that it is a bedrock of sovereign. That's not it. That doesn't even make sense. Like that's counter to the stated editorial position of Info Wars. That doesn't make any sense for him to say. Well he does because he wants to make you more scared of migrants. No. I get. I mean I get that. But that's just yeah. He was he wrote

that down. Right. That's terrible. Well because it's something that evokes an image of these migrants being overwhelming the police and taking out the state. Right. Whereas like the the framing of it is you're right. A hundred percent counter to what Info Wars believes. Yeah. Crazy. Well I mean essentially the context is all of these hordes of non Sweden's Swedes are coming in and taking over Sweden. So he's really taken as he's really couching it as like a nationalistic. Yeah. Like all these non white people are being taken over by black people and white people need to have control over all the force as relates to white populations. There should be no power monopoly of the state as two non white populations. The state must have a monopoly of power. Yes. So long

as the state is white people. Yes. Yeah. That seems to be what the the that there's where the confusion. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway Alex comes back and he seems like he's really mad that Trump isn't helping and a lot of folks that are supporters of Trump and you're in the arena. You're out there but you're not in the arena like I am or a Matt Drudge is or others who I guarantee you have been harassed. I don't even need to talk to Drudge to tell you they've harassed the hell out of him and everybody else and Trump doesn't do anything about it when he has all the damn power and is in the right to do it. And so here's the deal. I love Trump a lot but it's like my back's broken. I'm being eaten alive in a pit. I can't get out and Trump's up there at the top of the pit

not getting me out. So you won't do anything. My back is broken. I'm in a pit. I'm dying. Trump has all the power in the world to solve this problem and he won't do it. Yeah. Starting to get real pissed off. You can see these things. So Alex you know Trump sorry Roger is found guilty and these are the sort of stories that Alex would spend days on in the past but just now there's so much news and we bring up such huge news here all the time that it all just kind of gets lost in its intensity. It's like a log jam got broken up and just thousands of huge stories are coming down the pike here. Used to 20 years ago we take one story and dissect it for months. Nope. I mean now it's hundreds of stories a day. The story that's confirmed of what went on in court

today should terrify everyone in America and the world that if we don't get control of our government and our judiciary and our legislative very quickly we are going the way that all other nations go when they end up declining and falling. So this isn't about Roger. This is the decline of civilization. I think I don't think I like his strategy here. No. I don't. I think he's I think he's going around it. I think he's going about it backwards. What do you mean? I mean I think what he's trying to do is capitalize on all the the larger number of viewers here by increasing his ads and all of that shit when that's not really going to do it. What he should be doing is taking this time now that all these people are watching again to really fucking hammer it like crush this

shit. You know like give the best free Roger Stone performance that anyone has ever given. And he should turn on Trump. Absolutely. This should be his fucking fire and brimstone. We begin the the new conservative party and we're not going to call it the White Nationalist Party but you know that today the one option that he has that is the best option is now you got to you got to throw in some of those ads. No no for sure at the same time it's make your full break like you have the most eyes on you. People are interested in what you're doing. Yeah you can now in good conscience retain what you need to retain from your Trump years move on to something new because like it's something that even people on the left or people who don't like Alex will

be like yeah that makes sense like like the idea that he would turn on Trump because he realizes he's not going to save any of us. Yeah like that is something to be like yep you'll get some people being like we told you so you dumb asshole but at the same time you can't argue with that conclusion no yeah of course you should have seen this coming but yeah of course makes sense that you would turn on him for this other things like when he like Trump bombed Syria and Alex is like yeah so close shoves ISIS up the dirty asshole yeah that is a position where if you turn on Trump for that people would be like what what does that say politically what is that you know there would be confusion in questions him turning on Trump for not pardoning Roger Stone like everybody like yeah makes sense

no there's no deeper political thing to yeah and he had fucking llamas in in studio to get publicity imagine the publicity he would get if he just came out on info wars yeah and said we no longer support Trump that would be msnbc headlines that's that's the type of shit that inexplicably would get everybody talking we've gone too far with this exactly yeah or get this what if when Roger was convicted Alex had llamas in studio now that would be see now that's dynamite that's going to keep people coming back and one of the llamas rob do does a ventriloquist act with him and the llama turns on Trump okay all right and then the other llama gets a tattoo of roger stone on its back and then goes to go to prison goes to llama prison which is just a pen yeah it's very cute it's cute

so alex freaks out here a little bit and i think some of it might have to do with the pressure of there being way more eyes on him now i'm not building up suspense here he said suspensfully what i confirmed from multiple people in the courtroom and people that are specialists in this area let's just leave it at that is so criminal is so evil did you guys find that piece of information i wanted you to print earlier the criminal evil one critical that we have a congruent stream of memory and consciousness what do you mean paper trail you know i think i'm just going to take a break and then i'll come back and i'll get into all of

it all right but you know this is a lot of dead air these people are just absolutely unbelievable uh drew just gave you guys a file you have that file about four and a half minutes long you got that that one thanks play that play that and then i'm going to go get this piece of information i love the crew they're great um okay if i could fire every fucking one of you i would if i could fire everyone but i can't afford better than you you're all nine year old so mad oh so he goes uh takes a break and plays like a special report and uh he comes back and you can tell like he definitely punched a wall or something yeah because he's trying to act way more professional ladies and gentlemen i am

your host alex jones and i am a syndicated radio and tv host based in austin texas wow there are a lot of new viewers tuning in via info wars dot com four slash show and band dot video he very clearly wouldn't behave like that i'm a syndicated radio host out of austin if he didn't have like information that there are tons of people who have never listened to his show before tuning in artificial as yeah because of the uh terrible roger stone political prisoner uh conviction of all seven counts facing 50 years in jail at the hands of the obama hanging judge who let hillary clinton off the hook for ben gazi and the clear stand down and the deaths that happened there nice ral roaded maniforte and others but maniforte had actually done some of the things that the

with the offshore accounts what you could argue earlier still he was targeted for political reasons stone did nothing wrong drudge report dot com is top linked to our story brag and our live feed where we're breaking all of this down so while it is true that amy berman jackson the judge in roger's trial was also the judge in the case of paul maniforte that is true but that doesn't necessarily mean anything nefarious is up there are only 15 judges in the u.s district court for the district of columbia and it's entirely possible that this was a coincidence of timing alex would need to do better than just to say obama appointed her to prove any kind of concrete conspiracy here that's a pretty serious accusation to make about a judge if you look up

judge jackson's history alex's picture of a leftist judge towing the liberal line just doesn't really seem to square with reality for instance she presided over the sentencing of jesse jackson jr who was a democrat member of the house and the son of jesse jackson when he stole about 750 thousand dollars of campaign money you'd think if she was a damn hatchet person she would have thrown out his sentence but instead she put him in jail as it relates to hillary clinton she didn't do anything crazy in terms of ben gazi all she did is dismiss a wrongful death suit against hillary because it would have been illegal for it to continue based on the westfall act the west fall act is a 1988 law that made it so the united states itself is to be substituted as a defendant

in cases where a government employee is sued for something that was the result of something that they did in their official capacity in their job this act explains a lot of questions why government officials and figures aren't being constantly sued it's because they have a form of immunity in terms of their official business alex can say that this judge was protecting hillary but to do anything other than what she did judge jackson would have violated the supreme court ruling and a law passed by congress it would have been very illegal for her to allow that lawsuit to continue now interestingly in looking into judge jackson i found a website that i have become fascinated with uh and i might have spent way too much time on and it's called

patriot or trader don't don't don't don't this is a blog not this is a blog not tell me that you can just type in a name and it will tell you if they are you can't type in any name but there's a big database okay this is just a blog where someone has come up with a list of traders and okay all right so now jordan we're going to play a game we're going to play a game of trader or patriot i'm going to give you a name you got to have an editorial position for a trader or patriot now if it's me and i'm guessing who would create a website called trader or patriot dot com i'm guessing that my guys who i appreciate are probably going to lean more towards the trader side would i be correct in that assumption i think that you can guess based on who would make a website like

this yeah exactly okay let's go for it you ready yeah first one amy bermin jackson trader trader that was an easy easy one la voy finnecom the guy who got shot at the bundy stand off a patriot yes he was a patriot mad dog james madis general are we pre 2018 or post 2018 i can't give you that information i'm going to go with updated to trader it's not updated but he is a patriot on the website okay shit okay here you go william bar current attorney general william bar god i need timestamps on what these decisions are made these people everybody is a trader or a patriot because they're all fucking shady as shit okay you got to make a decision i'm going to go with patriot trader what how is that possible i should have assumed that it was trader otherwise why would

you even bring it up yeah representative john lewis civil rights activist john lewis i don't know is there a super trader trader trader yeah yeah bernie sanders oh see timestamp there was a time when these people especially would consider burning a patriot but i'm going to have to go with trader you are correct trader okay edward snowden oh this is there's a couple at the end that are a little bit tough and yeah this gets down to personal shit even in the conservative community there are people who would say that snowden was absolutely a trader and there are plenty who would say he was absolutely a patriot i'm going to go with trader patriot damn it damn it son of a bitch and finally last one justice antonin scalia i don't know but wherever he is i'm

glad to tell so you're being out of big i'm going to go with patriot trader god damn it fine i'm fine with it i did find if you go through this almost everybody who's a supreme court justice is a trader well yeah because sooner or later you'll be able to find one case where you're like that's a trader case honestly that site is not nearly as fun as the idea of it is it's mostly just walls of text yeah and i should tell you there are way more traders than patriots yeah that doesn't surprise me anyway point is alex needs to do better than this if he wants to smear a judge just because he's going to send his friend to prison he she had no legal reason to not dismiss the case against hillary and it's entirely possible it's a coincidence that she got both

roger and manafort's cases there are clear counter examples in her judicial history like that of jesse jackson jr that tend to hurt the theory that she's a biased set up kind of judge you can really tell though he knows that more people are listening now he's trying to sound real smart and focused and i think it's cute he's doing it wrong he should be going full crazy yeah probably that's that's how you get people to come back nobody wants to just listen to a professional broadcast your alex fucking jones yeah so earlier he said that you know he's not building suspense right before he started freaking out right to go off air right it's because he has big news okay and i talked to some other journalists that are scared to come on

about what was said this morning in the trial when they tried to put roger in prison until the february 6th sentencing with the judges done and what happened there and what was said about roger and myself and you the listeners of this show it's about you and i'm not building up the suspense of it i'm getting some documents doing some research he said collating those and i'm gonna write a statement during the next break so that i get this precisely the way it is because they want to arrest me and they're saying it in the court you've seen him in the news last week trying to get me arrested and lying about me yeah so he's teasing you know he's just trying to tease this out yeah these listeners because he has big things happening on the show but he doesn't

isn't that what the real issue here is he doesn't really have anything to tease so he's trying to make up something frantically he's trying to find a way to spin whatever he's got going yeah which is just basically that the people the prosecution was arguing that his actions were a breach of roger's gag order that's really all that uh this this whole tease is all about right but here's the thing alex does have something huge going on but most people listening to his show wouldn't think this is huge only i think it's huge and that is that he's got larry nickles coming on he'll join us again um sunday on the sunday she'll be live four to six p.m or monday so we get more time he understands this is breaking right now but it ties into all this i've known larry nickles

for 25 years he did work for the clintons he was a green beret and did a bunch of stuff in latin america he did a bunch of cia stuff he did help them get elected he did help them do dirty tricks he did help them develop the broken coalition strategy and bill clinton in a memoir you know did call him a very dangerous person to them wow he is dangerous he's crazy yeah um to my knowledge larry nickles has not been on alex's show in over two years i can't say with absolute certainty but i know that i haven't heard him on the show since september 21st 2017 which i remember very well because that was the day larry threatened to blackmail congress and uh muller if they didn't stop investigating trump which is a big old crime we had a great day that was a good one there's

something going on here and i think it's something that i've been sensing for a while now when joel scousen started making increasing appearances on the show i thought it was possibly an indication of alex shifting things a little bit in his show scousen had made it very clear that he doesn't think much of trump and actually called him an idiot many times on alex's show after the 2016 election when alex was at the high point of his trump infatuation this led to them not seeing eye to eye and he really wasn't around too much as a trusted source but he's coming back on the show now which is interesting more regularly then on november 14th uh i'm sorry on the 13th alex had steve pechenek back on the show after him being gone for over a year and now here we have larry

nickles brought back from the dead after a very long absence i think these three reappearing are very interesting and i'll tell you why alex lost a lot more experts than just these three when he went full trump webster tarpley hates trump and he would never talk to alex again at this point wane madson hates trump and now views alex as some kind of a shield most likely for israel these were dudes that alex built narratives on webster tarpley was like one third of the obama deception documentary these were central figures in the info war scousen steve and larry were important too but they're guys that uh that alex has who don't hate him for what he's become steve and larry are into trump but obviously for their own reasons steve wants to install a dictator and larry just

hates the clintons scousen doesn't like trump but he still respects alex because they're shared insane anti-communism these are the three experts from days past who alex could credibly bring back into his roster while transitioning away from trump successfully in that period scousen could be presented as an expert who was regrettably right all along the trump embodied a great promise for them but wasn't competent enough to follow through steve can make up stories about how trump could have saved everyone but the counter coup was just too strong larry can connect any stories about any democrat to the clintons and whisper ominously about witches he has got he's got that skill in spades witches it's like he's the best at playing six degrees uh like kevin bacon but

instead it's always clinton and witches yeah i accept that i'm probably way overthinking this but from where i'm sitting the timing of this stuff seems very suspicious scousen's been reintegrating and then on the day of the impeachment inquiry starting the hearings steve is back and now the day roger is found guilty larry is back it could all be a coincidence i'm totally fine that that is a very fine possibility but these dudes were regulars on the show for years and just a few years back they were the people who were replaced by the gaven mcginnis's and the mike sernovich crowd for them to be making a resurgence feels like it means something but i want to stress that i could just be drawing conclusions that aren't necessarily there

another reason that i think this maybe might not mean anything too big is that alex is in the middle of trying to pretend that hillary is secretly running in 2020 so why wouldn't he call larry nickles he's trying to run an imaginary anti hillary campaign but he doesn't have roger this time so it makes sense that he would resort to whatever he remembers from last time thus the pizza gate narratives coming back and larry nickles dumbass showing back up too it makes some sense but it does also fit a pattern of what you would do if you were trying to save what you could right i what i see is uh that that uh what is it like common sports narrative where the guy is hanging out with his friends we're from we're from wherever we'll always be from wherever

doesn't matter he goes to the big times stops hanging out with his friends he's like no i don't have time for you i'm i'm i got the president elected i'm above this shit and then he went back to his roots he's he's got a broken ankle and he's never going to be able to play again and all of a sudden now he's back home and he's got to fucking fix the relationship with a horse with his buddies gotta go back there yeah yeah i i agree with you and it's difficult to tell how much of it is um some sort of a plan like that yeah but it feels like i mean we're hearing these indications of alex being like trump doesn't he's not going to protect us if he's not going to pardon trump i'm sorry roger i don't know what i'm gonna do you have simultaneously the recurrence of these

people who are the people from his past that have drifted for various reasons that he could reintegrate um and and work with i don't i just oh man no here's what's even here's what's even better now this is where i got it all right he's he just came to la he's been working his ass off roger stone gets signed as his agent immediately trump he's got he's the head of the studio he's getting all kinds of pictures lined up everything is going his way all of a sudden stone gets arrested and trump stops answering his emails and now uh oh i'm fucked that's where that's where i see it and so that's where he goes back to his uh fucking missouri hometown little improv theater and they just fucking bang it out yeah we're gonna start a band whatever

whatever the reality of it is i sense a drifting away i i sense a possibility of it like yeah being more anti hillary than pro trump oh yeah moving forward yeah yeah and certainly these are the three people that i can think of that aren't around or haven't been around anymore yeah that alex could still do shit with yeah a lot of those other people if he tried to bring them into the show it would be confrontational it would be like if webster tarpley was on he would probably talk about how libertarianism is a is a gateway to fascism like oh no no no no he would dunk on alex try and bring wane madson back in he'd be like what the fuck is wrong with yeah and all those things would turn bad steve scousen and larry are three ways to connect

the past to the present to have a coherent connection of brand whatever he yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah they're like a constant yeah in the lost terminology the it's a bridge between the past and the present that he can use to work towards a future that is different than what he has now i don't know i don't know i maybe he just doesn't have stones rolodex anymore so yeah could be there's there's a hundred possibilities could just be that he's like no one else would talk to him yeah so yeah it could mean nothing but i i i just sense trends away from the we'll see the problem with that is i don't see any way that it because if you're gonna stop if you're no longer carrying water for trump and if you're no longer defending all of

the shit he says then you've only got the anti uh hillary stuff and there's there's really nothing there so all you've really got left from is is just calling for more out and out violence you do you do have that to some extent you i think that you'd have a tough time threading that needle but you could also really regroup and be like okay what we need is a trump but more competent and loyal and trustworthy steve steve shut up shut up about the whole fucking dictatorship steve you get the fuck down all right that will be another issue that you have to deal with sorry steve was just screaming in my ear about how we should run i mean you could you could you could see alex trying again with a more principled person or something you could see him getting

behind jim jordan as their new like cult leader or something like the new figurehead yeah you could see him trying to reconnect with rand paul like there are options that he could go to in terms of who you look to right but we've talked about this a hundred times alex's show works as a counter to something as opposed to a supporting of something so it doesn't matter if he has somebody fully to support he needs to get that albatross off his neck and get back to just attacking yep and attacking hillary is something and the deep state can be done without trump anybody can do it and scousen larry and steve are great tools to have for him in terms of furthering that goal getting back to what works yeah as opposed to sycophantically praising your god king yeah and they're all what

is it done for him he's got carpet dunked him hanging out you know he's got he's got carpet dunked him won't even go on a show anymore he's got all these meme dicks yeah you know he has like if that's what it's that's the alternative yeah that is that is so that must be so disheartening just like that whole like the reason that i joined the trump team was because i was promised elevation and all i've got left is carpet dunked him and the guy who hit stuff with a hammer he does hit stuff with a hammer so i don't know if he's coming back on the show yeah i doubt it he's a little bit big time for alex but you know who isn't larry fucking hey larry so here we get to hearing this raspy ass voice back on the show but thanks for joining as well what do you think of

the roger stone situation alex it's disquieted i have warned you about 25 30 years ago it's coming it's coming live it's real and i feel sorry for roger i feel sorry for anybody but they attack they attack them so roger larry wants to bring uh soros into a conspiracy oh yeah of course but it's really funny because in this next clip he can't come up with soros's name he's like i know there's a bad guy something that nobody's talking about which you probably one of the biggest clues of what's happening alex is uh what's his name oh god no i just went blank i got it funds all the man teeth and everything um help me your second man enough it's okay larry stay there i don't i don't think that that is like an aging memory loss kind of thing i think

that's just not larry having a conspiracy but not really knowing what he's talking about yeah yeah that's just like i don't remember this guy i think he's juggling too many bad guys in his brain yeah probably he's had so many over the years he's had so many bogeyman who knows which one's supposed to go where soros is actually wit stevens as a rock of fellers so fine man alex comes back from break but you heard that music again again yeah so i'm telling you it plays throughout most of the episode he hates his crew so much i would too oh so they come back and alex gets into talking about how he's really mad about the fact that his name came up in the trial can you i got a big target pattern on my back and hey i'll probably get destroyed in the process here in the next few

years maybe even sooner but you know what that's what men do they stand up because the example they make out of me they think is going to intimidate you i think it's going to inspire you to not go along with these people and to take our government back legally and lawfully and we're in the process of it now but the missing link and all this is the justice department and trump because the the government's so full of these people that are arrogant and entitled and insolent that they really believe i should be in a jail cell because that witch or criminal hillary didn't get in or we're gonna go to larry nickles i apologize for getting him on late huge breaking things this segment in the next sure also well he's and we'll have him back soon so we can really

get into all this but uh please remember we're listed supported the big thing they try to take away is money to fund ourselves nice so what alex is talking about there in that clip and it's basically just the big news that he had to deliver they keeps teasing uh is that he thinks that the court wants him arrested yeah this is neither true nor is it big news i was trying to find a clip to cut of him talking about this but honestly the delivery of it delivery of it when he gets around to it is so rambling and incoherent that i felt like we could just talk about it yeah on his show on the 14th alex purported to have that message from roger that message was largely that he felt like he was going to be found guilty and he wanted alex's audience to pray for him and for trump to

pardon him this was unfortunately wrapped in messages from alex that if roger got found guilty everyone needed to go surround the white house and bullhorn them and that it was the end of freedom and uh all those other things that got caught up in all of which have already come true right so because of that it you know they just felt like we've already talked about this they just but that's the news yeah is that they talked about uh in court that alex might have been uh responsible for breaking the gag order right so ultimately uh you know holding roger after the uh sentencing yeah i think that might have been or after the verdict yeah that might have been a bit excessive but that's not what they did there i think that the fact that they retained the gag order is

something that is very responsible to do yeah so while under the gag order roger posted an image of judge jackson with like a crosshair on it alex has a habit of targeting people for harassment and that behavior has been particularly bad lately with his two botched attempts at guessing roger's potential juror names uh particularly notable plus the case roger was being tried for involved witness tampering and intimidation putting him under a gag order is like suspending someone's driver's license when they're awaiting trial for a dwy he's shown that he can't be trusted to behave responsibly more importantly you can hear with alex this frustration that's growing with trump he and his buddies are out here on the front lines and either doing everything they can

but trump refuses to act or support them alex's t's turning on trump so many times i can't really even trust anything he's saying but i think that like his petty feelings about being abandoned are the most plausible thing that will cause alex you are you are absolutely right and this is a situation that could easily create those feelings that's the only reason why i take any of this like as a possibility that's worth discussing yeah it's because it fits this like his behaviors so well no he could he could trample all over any political position that alex has ever had obviously the ego but if he's if he's like oh no no sorry alex i don't care about you what do you what have you done for me lately or i don't remember you being that important to me or your your reactions were

great but they don't deserve any reward is is oh the recipe for him to totally yeah so in this next clip alex is talking to larry and larry makes an interesting caveat just get into the impeachment liar and and and and hillary behind the scenes she's clearly still in control of the deep state that's now admitted and and what you think their next moves are going to be but absolutely but let me say this out front folks anything i say alex is not responsible for it's from me and if the prosecution wants to come after me come after me not alex and before we leave roger stone here's what i know alex roger stone goes in jail now folks i dealt with jim mcdougal he was killed in jail especially after the f steam case i fear if roger gets put in

prison he won't be there a week he will not be there a week he will be eliminated trust me i know these people so why is larry saying that alex isn't responsible for his words is that because the last time he was on he blackmailed congress okay so there is that and you don't want to have any of that mess you need a boilerplate there there definitely does sound like there was a pre-show meeting it feels like it yeah it feels like hey larry you talk a lot of shit yeah i don't want to get sued i'm already getting sued i'm already getting sued yeah everybody everyone yells at me for things that my guests say can you please make a disclaimer yeah i wouldn't be surprised if every guest going forward doesn't have to put some sort of that smart yeah so larry

has a theory and it's not well fleshed out in his words but i know from looking into this that i think roger stone is an airbender and he'll get out of prison that way that's not well spelled out in his words he was talking about the impeachment inquiry he thinks that it is very notable that adam schiff is a screenwriter okay yes so what's going on is that adam schiff is screenwriting a play in real time that is the impeachment that's basically the long and short of his theory the impeachment this impeachment was rigged from day one what i have found out and have turned over to the prosecutors which ones the general's office is that it turns out that adam schiff folks wrote this script this whole script they're going through now it's a subpoena trap

he did it back when they figured out that the normal case was going to end up going nowhere which was about halfway through the mirror investigation now i didn't know this until the host i was doing research but as it turns out adam schiff has a hobby that's what it is alex screen let's talk about that hobby when we're back in two minutes with larry nickles because i'm going to shut up for a while let him break it down i mean to i want to make this clear he's literally saying it's a screenwriting thing it's not metaphorical no it's uh he's he's doing like a fucking a twilight zone episode where the mystery novel writer the mystery has become real jesus so larry is on primarily probably because he had this story about ed buck

being involved with adam schiff yeah yeah and so alex gets to that and then i i don't know if you can make more sense of this than i can but larry literally says in the middle of this clip adam schiff went to these parties at buck's house dressed like an egyptian because he's a screenwriter okay i let's see if you can make sense of it because i am flummoxed the answer is going after the ringleader's crimes and exposing them and that's what larry nickles is doing with its confirmed mainstream news that adam schiff leading the fake impeachment his good buddies with buck is there at least 16 times at bizarre sex parties where they did ritualistic mock human sacrifice and that's in some of the diaries of some of the

victims that died at least three black men some of them crawling begging as he would plunge needles filled with methamphetamine into them as a form of sacrifice reportedly larry nickles getting back to what you were saying longer segment coming up the in the short one please continue with the hobby of adam schiff and what your sources are saying well absolutely as a matter of fact i'm the one that won't the fact that ship has been to buck's apartment his party place 16 pounds now it turns out alex larry do me a favor back off your receiver a little bit back off your receiver now they have verification 27 times he was at buck's parties now the other thing is the time frame at which he's gone to him it's always of an evening plus in seven of the events he went to

they were costume kind of parties and in line with adam schiff's screenwriting dreams he would go as these freaky weirds like you said egyptian type demon outfits freaky weird egyptian type demon outfits because he's a screenwriter okay so his now i'm gonna i'm gonna diagram what i think he's saying i saw you taking some notes all right so if i understand this correctly yeah okay uh in order to further his screenwriting career head of the house judiciary committee adam schiff uh is dressing in an egyptian outfit weird egyptian type demon outfit to go to ritualistic sacrifices yes and it's important to note that they must be at night because he only goes in the evening evening times all right so i want to get this out of the way up top nothing i'm saying

or any takes on this story that i have should imply that i have any interest in defending ed buck i hope his case is thoroughly investigated and he's punished to the full extent of the law i think it's good for people to talk about that case as long as they stay grounded in reality however i don't think that's what larry is doing larry has been pushing this adam schiff narrative since at least october 11th when he made a startling allegation on the youtube show crowd source the truth it's pretty complicated to describe what that show is but i think it might be fair to say it's a bargain bin info wars where alex's guests go when alex is too busy like when you get kicked off twitter you go to gab it's kind of the same thing when a guest is no longer welcome on info

wars but still has an itch to lie to people yeah they end up going to crowd source the truth gerome coursey and larry nickles are two of the show's regular guests currently the host jason goodman has also welcomed to his show some of the more unsavory characters who've popped up on alex's show over the years there's robert david steel the guy who told alex the globalists are taking kidnap children to mars bases i do think the two of them have had a falling out though goodman and robert david steel well that'll happen there's laura loomer there's a larry clayman who recently sued alex along with gerome coursey there's jack besobic there's also a weird project camelot overlap in which jason has had carry cassidy on at least once as well as her

big false flag expert oley damagard who's someone who we haven't covered because those episodes are not project camelot fun but he's on project camelot a lot to talk about false flags along with jim fetzer sometimes the guy who wrote the book no one died at sandy hook i hate i hate so much that if adam schiff and i don't even care if it's true or not but it adam schiff likes to write screenplays in his off time and that's evidence that he's some sort of a evil whatever it is but carry cassidy tried to write screenplays but she's the only one who's exposing the real truth now and she's still writing screenplay it's nothing matter no it doesn't so hilariously the thumbnail image on one of the videos of this crowdsource the truth that was interviewing

oley damagard is just the illuminati card game cards okay of course and has the title quote our globalist elites playing our lives as a game that works for me honestly i've considered covering that show as a wacky wednesday option but every time i've tried i just find the host so boring and the content very unengaging with larry coming back into alex's life i might have to reconsider but i probably won't we'll see jason goodman himself has been at least featured on david night's show but i'm not sure he's ever made it to the rarefied air of being on with alex he also sometimes talks to people who alex doesn't ignore like mike adams and oan schreuer also jason goodman was one of the journalists who attended alex's weird press conference back in april of last year good it's

a show that traffics in all the real dumb cool conspiracy theories like pizza gate seth rich the los vegas shooting he's even down with the dumb denis mott gummary bullshit my point here is that this is a basically a junior varsity info wars and it's not a good show that's where larry nickle started putting this information out after which point it gets repeated ad nauseam in the fringe right wing media it's really easy to get this narrative cooking larry's a lunatic who has a 20-something year record of making shit up for attention and money but he can just go on a dumb youtube conspiracy show say some stupid shit then sites like true pundit will re-report it while breathlessly calling larry a consummate washington insider and clinton confidant sure true

pundit posts articles with headlines like quote clinton whistleblower feds investigating adam shifts disturbing behavior at ed bucks meth sex house with no confirmation or evidence other than larry saying it then sites with real smart sounding names like global intel hub get to re-report on the story linking to the true pundit story saying quote officially shift is under investigation this story gets at the added flare of credibility because there are pictures of shift and buck at events together because buck was a huge political donor and because of that of course bucks crime deserves particular attention i don't disagree with that and shift or any other politician if they turn to blind eye to bucks actions because of like financial support then they should be held

to account for that but the simple fact of buck donating to shift or shift being seen with buck at a public event that doesn't prove anything on its own what larry and alex are doing is completely unacceptable because they don't care about bucks crimes except how they can be used to further their political ends and i find that shitty if any of this stuff can ever be proven in any way i'm fine changing my position but for now i have a standing position of not believing a damn thing larry nickle says it can thus it could be confirmed by someone who isn't a career liar yeah that picture that fuck off but you see you've got a picture of trump with every democratic lawmaker does that mean they're all it's all fucking stupid so do you understand though this pipeline you have larry

in october going on crowdsource the truth which is a dumb conspiracy youtube show he says this bullshit on there it gets picked up by a blog that has no goddamn editorial stance or standards at all and then it gets re repeated at like a game of telephone from there so when alex says this is confirmed in the mainstream news it has it it's blog post on true pundit that's based on larry just talking shit yep this is how the pipeline works yep a high school picture starts throwing 95 miles an hour and in eight months they're in the major leagues sure yeah so larry has an interesting position about these these hearings that are going on in the impeachment inquiry this is crazy now you'll notice what they're doing they're using this this hearing

to solicit deep state career people to come out come forward and as we found out with the quote-unquote whistleblower if you don't have anything to report and get hold of us and ship will screen right to you apart to play and what to say and of course they're making it very clear that they will protect you don't worry come out don't worry if we're telling you say stuff that didn't happen they'll never touch you will protect you so it's an open casting call these uh include these uh impeachment inquiry i another way of saying that is he will include you in the no no he's right proceeding no no no he's right he's not i mean even even that's it even that's i know that's a metaphor even if it's literal that's my god that's you

know larry that's larry that is weak bullshit larry that's larry i expect hard rice from you not this soft bullshit no larry is usually this week yeah it's very thin man he will screen right you apart yeah very dumb got him so what the other thing larry is bringing is this mentality that now that roger is going to prison we've got to be the voice of roger no none of this is about me alex this is about your info wars now they're going to try to shut you down the folks if we stand behind that it's and i'm not here to patronize or anything like that i'm here today the damn truth straight up and that's a alex you and i and others we've got to become the voice for roger stone he can't do it anymore we've got to do it

and just like soros is doing he's going around to the united states and they're down ballot funding prosecutors and county sheriffs why so that if anybody stands up in nowhere america i'm no psa they're going to go after it just like they went after roger just like they went after general plan or anybody else so larry is saying that we know we got to be the voice of roger i just got a message from roger stone right now dan he can't speak for himself but we can oh we have to be now that roger can't speak on info wars dan we have to be roger stone's voice suspicious i think we do and now he's remembered soros's name he's remembered the narrative he was supposed to push and that is that now they're trying to get these prosecutors in rural areas

in order to tamp down rural dissent what is it with these fucking dudes in county sheriffs they they i where they're the highest authority in the why why would that even cross your mind is not a crazy thing to say soros is funding new county sheriffs in order to print that's insane well it's because i think they recognize that the largest share of their base and their audience is probably people in rural areas people who are disconnected from larger communities who are county sheriffs sure and so like it does serve their interest to try and make them more scared right their position right i get that that's just so silly yeah it's dumb but larry is insistent that this isn't about roger this isn't even about trump it's about you they know what they're doing

and and folks then i go in after trump then i go in after alex they're coming after us change drops name to us change alex's name to us that's who they're coming after did you commit all those products put us in you know alex you and i years years ago said there would be a coup that we were in a soft coup i don't think your audience has ever even heard of a soft coup until we talked about it yawn so look this is all like just you know trying to personalize this to the audience and you know whatever it's exactly what you would expect them to do and also what you would expect them to do is larry if he's coming back he's got to pay the bills and it's own it's on and everywhere you turn they are working to do the big word submission put you and everyone

submission and it's a it's a blessing to hear you alex not not go into submission stand up now unfortunately folks you don't have a big target on his back already does but it's going to get bigger but this is where i ask all of y'all out there this is your battle too don't do it if you have never purchased or been apart stop it about alex's organization through his products or donations or whatever do it now do it now because alex is about the only front line we've got with a media platform of strength of strength this is part of the arrangement oh yeah that was definitely contingent upon his return yeah wow or even if it's not it's just larry knows the game like he knows what he has to do and that harkens all the way back to some ted anderson gold sales

is oh yeah so transparently bullshit like all right you might as well be reading off copy man totally yeah so do you think larry thinks that hillary is running um you know what i'm going to say that larry thinks that there's no way hillary is going to run what she's trying to do is orchestrate the actual candidate and then when the candidate wins election she will kill the candidate and assume the role of president that would be better he just thinks she's running oh he sees what i'm seeing what you see alex this thing's going down if it's ever going to go it's going to go now and she needs to be the head of it and she plans to be the head of it so i will not be surprised at all if she's not in that race in a month now we don't have time today but as i've done in the past if

you have me on again i'll be glad to tell everybody exactly what they're doing and what they're doing next and you know alex we had a hell of a good correct record yeah you do uh let's flash back to when larry was saying that obama was going to run again in 2016 and then declare himself a a muslim so he's first turned the america into a muslim country so he would be the king of global islam right well it was either that great track record or turn into a shitty centrist trying to ruin his legacy as much as possible you remember when larry was saying that they were going to launch a fema provisional government in the state of emergency because when the clintons do that if they're in charge yeah they become king right if you're the president when that goes into effect

you become right and there are no senators or congress members who are coming out and telling you the truth because when that shit goes down they become dukes yes yeah yeah well it was either that or she would go on a book tour great batting average larry look if you accept that there were only two possibilities each time he only was half wrong on both sure so like when he says she sees that it's going down that's what he's talking about yeah is like the the whatever government that where we get kings and dukes is about to start and she better be in charge of that that's what he's talking about this is like horse shit oh yeah so anyway um you know alex uh i don't know how to talk about this next clip because it's fucking weird so he alex starts telling a story

that roger told him pre gag order so it's okay for him to tell this story that i i know i'm going to go with air on the air on the side of caution man but it's about roger getting threatened if he didn't do what the globalist wanted him to do air on the side of caution and so alex has also been threatened but there's a weird reason why he doesn't talk specifically about these threats well i was told this before they gagged him and and and so i could say it but he did have people reach out to him from the system to turn against trump they leave him alone and of course he didn't do it and so we got a swap team raid and i've had the same stuff as well and you know they're off record discussions and i've had to sign non-disclosures and things like that and i and i want to be able to meet

with these criminals occasionally uh so i don't ever break those deals because that's not criminal to meet with the criminals uh but you know i've had meetings with these mafia peoples representatives and uh they're basically like hey man we're gonna kill you and i'm like well just go ahead because you're gonna get it after that politically that's what this is all about if i need to go down at the alamo jackasses i will you understand just remember you're gonna get it you see how you're already getting your ass handed to you you already see how long you're losing it i'll be just like ghani when you take that club and split my head when that blood's running down both sides i don't know i beat your ass larry nickles we love you we'll talk to you again soon buddy

that's the uh that's that music again uh and uh so if i understand this correctly tell me if you have a different interpretation uh huh alex is saying that he has been threatened by these globalists yes and he would talk about it specifically more but he agreed to confidentiality well of course and he doesn't want to break that confidentiality because he still likes to take meetings with these globalists well what if they say something so they can threaten to kill him and he can yell at them well he doesn't want to jeopardize that because that's a good working relationship yeah i don't break these nda's with literal demon vampires who just have me in for meetings and threaten to kill me yeah i don't want to break those agreements because then what would i do

maybe they have something important to say sometime you never know it keep your friends close stand but keep your enemies closer by never violating their nda that's so stupid i can't believe someone would hear that i'd be like yeah that makes sense so i also love that larry will talk to you soon love everybody oh man i'm so fucking stupid do you understand now though like when i was telling you that they keep playing the music that i was like this seems weird do you agree with me like because you look you i've never heard this i've never heard the same song this many times but you seem you seem to be a little bit like a hesitant to accept my uh conclusion that it seemed weird do do you feel oh no okay well i mean you get the point that i'm saying i get the point when i get

the point that you're saying it seems i i it doesn't seem weird to me because the level of incompetence true is established at such a high level yeah that it's like man that they just don't know how to change the track i can't tell what the explanation is but there's something it could just be they accidentally put their itunes on repeat and they didn't know how to change it but the problem with that is that it's not the only music that's played it's played a lot but there's other music like in this next clip alex comes back from break listening to music from the good the bad and the ugly and it makes him say something really fucking weird of course you know you go see an epic movie that breaks me any question into the bad and the ugly it's actually perfectly

done it's a really great movie it has that unreality that makes it reality um sure so that's alex clearly articulating this uh this sort of weirdness that he has about fiction and reality there's a there's an unreality to the movie that makes it real what what makes it real is just how fictional it is yeah so larry is gone but alex is still talking about this buck thing for a little bit they can't stop look at shiff that's not just nickle saying that that's in the news he was at all those parties with ed buck these are a bunch of drug addict perverts look at shiff look at him it's not just nickle saying that it's news articles that have like larry is the only source saying it of course great news news like true pundit the news is doing it dan right we can believe in the

media which i of course have been screaming that you shouldn't believe at all no but this media is never never believe the media they're all lying to you they are always lying to you you cannot trust them this time even they're saying it this this is the good media yeah pundit yeah yeah the media is only bad if they affect checkers that's good point so alex rambles a bit about evil and sure how he's not into it that that's the description on every one of our for april fools you should go back and edit every one of the podcast rambles about the devil's alex rambles about evil yeah so he's moving away from the devil yeah anything corrupt or evil that i was ever into now is a joke and i'm pulling away by light years away from the devil accelerating away

satans behind me and i just want to take my children and your children and all these wonderful spirits that are good gentle creatures with us into the universe forever and justice and freedom and away from these fallen twisted entities let's get out of here let's go get behind me satan listen to what christ said think how hardcore that is get out of my way i'm leaving i'm jumping i'm gone away from ed buck away from adam schiff away from alistair crowley away from satan away from hillary clinton away away away away away we want to go away we want to leave you we want you out of our presence all right i want to give you guys a chance because i'm really tempted but i need to spend some time with the family i got a lot of big projects i'm up here working tomorrow

already on projects and plans and the big things to fight the globalist and i'm excited about all this i'm getting ready to sell my house so i can fund these projects which is i'm glad to do it's just that's what that energy is stored up to do but i want money because it's a weapon system and it's because i can block these enemies attacks with it and then i can carry out operations against them so we got products you need everybody should get dna force everybody should get x2 yeesh lawsuits are not going well i know i'm sorry he's funding new projects i apologize sure so for a long time alex has said that if he has to he's willing to sell his house to fund the info

war but this is literally the first time i've heard him talk about it as something he's actually doing i don't know if i believe him because alex is a liar and it's in the middle of him doing an ad pivot so it's possibly pretty likely that that's just him trying to create more incentive for people to give him money but assuming that that's not a lie this is a very very bad sign for alex there's no way that selling his house could provide enough capital for him to run info wars for very long so this would just be a matter of him trying to buy a few months at best the reason i say that is because alex has made it clear that it costs tens of millions of dollars to run info wars each year it's a complicated business with a gigantic studio or rent is not low tons of bandwidth costs

an entire supplement business with a warehouse and distribution connected a bunch of lawyers working on a ton of cases i don't know if tens of millions that figure is correct but i feel like it could be close given how many moving parts info wars has the most expensive home sale ever in austin was a gigantic mansion that went for 21.8 million dollars and currently the most expensive house on the market it has an asking price of 14.9 million dollars alex obviously has a nice house and i bet it's worth a lot but it's nowhere near the top end of austin's luxury property market if i had to guess i would be surprised if his house was valued at more than a few million dollars alex has said that his family owned some land but i have a hard time imagining that his parents who are still

alive would allow him to sell off acreage that's been handed down generationally just so he can keep playing up paying the legal fees that his radio show has racked up plus i think if that's what he was saying he might phrase it differently ultimately i don't know what to think here if he's saying that he selling his house when he's not it's then it's just a crass and manipulative marketing ploy i think that's possible if he's actually selling his house then his show is going not it's not going to make it in other six months it's not like alex is just in a tough patch and he needs to get through it and then everything will be fine he's fucked in the long run whether he makes it through this crunch or not his reach is non-existent his best friend who he changed his

career for is going to prison he's crawling back to larry nickles and steve pechenick his attempts to dodge the sandy hook lawsuit are all failing the president he's made the center of his career is getting impeached those aren't little obstacles in the road they are major problems that six million dollars is probably not going to solve again i still think he's probably full of shit but if he's not he's in serious trouble and i would probably advise him against selling his house yeah you know this is he needs that house to record his podcast in yeah no kidding this is how are we going to keep the show going when info wars crumbles this is such a one of those moments like when you're being blackmailed where it's just like you got to admit sooner or later that

whatever it is that there they have on you is not as damaging as continuing this whole game or just just get it out get it done you'll be okay alex just needs to let's look at let's look at this differently let's say you've fallen for the nigerian scheme fair enough that is a good way of putting it don't keep going don't keep going it's a you're in the sunk cost fallacy yeah he genuinely thinks that there's a way out of this for him and there just isn't it's it's probably not outside of like scaling back and seeing if you could regrow a little bit yeah somehow i think that's probably his only real ploy dumping money into info wars at this point short of finding an angel investor who will give you millions of dollars yeah millions and millions of dollars oh yeah to to keep doing

what you're doing is a fools fools game yep so alex at this point starts to speculate about trump so when i was talking about this stuff and like alex bringing these guys back in seems indicative of a move away from trump it was a feeling that i was having and when i got to this point in the episode i really feel like maybe it's maybe it's more than than just my feelings and people say why are you pissed at trump well i mean i know the democrats are evil i know they're trying to destroy everybody in the country and trying to bankrupt the nation trying to sabotage the dollar i mean i know that and then the president sits up there and tweets at these people and and eloquently describes what crooks they are wonderful

you know does trump secretly work with a deep state and then he just holds our hand like he holds somebody's hand at hospice yes i'm not saying that but you know you could start saying that yes because it's true if hillary was into and all this nobody put up with it that's true also you see of trumps in there god you're so close and all this persecution and censorship and control goes into place and then he always you know acts like he's fighting it but never really does anything about it to stop it let's not get distracted by the details stay on there stay on target you're doing this come on i don't know it's just food for thought god damn it because roger stone did nothing wrong except get the president elected well illegally and maybe trumps do the right thing

and pardon him right away that's good so you hear this here the introduction of thoughts about hey you know what maybe trump was put in in order to pacify and neutralize elements of the right wing that are anti deep state if that's what you need to get there that's fine because if hillary was in office not we wouldn't put up with this yes you nailed it you absolutely nailed it come on put two or two together we're only doing it because we're holding out hope that he's going to enact the white nationalistic dictatorship that we want land it i mean it's still the end result still isn't good thinking but no it it is what it is yeah so i mean he's just at the end of this episode he's just starting to recognize these things and i'm going to take a few calls now but i'm going to

briefly at the start of the next segment have a message for president trump because i know what trumps doing i know what he's being told and i know the calculus that's going on his brain about roger stone and this is a lot bigger than roger stone obviously and that calculus is not good roger stone is not a fart in church that we just try to pretend didn't happen trump needs to run towards this and pardon stone and point out how it's all fiasco just like the fake impeachment he had a press conference and we went and checked reportedly he didn't talk about stone and just like he didn't talk about julien assange anymore after he told julien assange to release the info and that's a lack of loyalty and it's not good you know we've been right about

everything we told trump all the moles everything and you know instead he just brings in all those candy asses because everybody's trying to play it safe well playing it safe got us where we are not playing it safe got trump elected i mean that's also illegal that's got the political power and right to stop all this and leaving us twisting out in the wind is not good i'm gonna stop right there you start to get the feeling that it's what alex is doing is sort of waking up from being manipulated he's being red pilled if you are starting to recognize like none of this shit that i thought was going on is going on now some of that could be the way you soft launch a narrative you know like you soft launch pivoting away by pretending that you're

waking up right right this deception that you've been you've fallen under or it could be real i don't know what it is but you can you can clearly see that alex is starting to way more explicitly talk about like this probably is not good my theory he is an occult and this is as close as he's as he's going to get and the next the next week is going to be him getting right back i mean this has happened over and over again but also you have to recall when he did that thing after the syria bombing we know from going over it alex turned on trump drunkenly on air that night that's true the next day he talked to roger who got him back in line right roger is not going to do that this time that's true who does he have around him he has people like joel scousen joel scousen isn't

going to get him back on trump's team like who the carpe docum isn't going to get him back on trump's team no i don't think i don't think which is strange because everybody knows he listened to the donk right i don't think the re integrative trump network or whatever is there to like get alex back into the fold if he starts drifting he doesn't have the cult near him anymore it doesn't seem it doesn't seem like that influence is necessarily there and for that reason i think it's possible that some of these feelings will grow more than they would have with roger present yeah if roger was there he would have been like hey trump and i go way back we fuck the same ladies together right but it's not weird it's not weird like that we've gotten into some fights in the

past but we always made up but we didn't double team not in a weird way though right so yeah it's always weirder that they didn't do that right i i have no comment i think that it is entirely possible that this is going nowhere yeah and alex will get back in line that's entirely possible because i could see a situation where trump does some sort of overture yeah and that gets that wins alex and the uh these dumb right wing fucks back it's possible but i also see it as entirely possible that this will be enough and alex will get where he needs to go yeah uh and one of the reasons i think that is very often you'll see alex's narratives that he's pushing reflected in callers so he gets a caller and here's what this guy has to say let's talk to chris in tennessee go ahead

christian on the air how's it going alex man i am uh fired up and just in war mode you don't sound like it i hear you um i'm uh i'm a little saddened about what's going on i'm thinking at a certain point when do we admit that trump isn't a white hat i mean he's so close guys harness on the indictments haven't come and what you said you hit the nail on the head earlier i think like would it be smarter for the globalist to just have hillary in or would it be smarter for them to have trump in and just act like he's on our side well i don't think that but we have to start introducing that idea because it because i mean i think he's just surrounded by the swamp he listens to advisors oh don't don't say much about roger because you know he's been convicted that ties you to stuff during

the impeachment oh give me a break the whole thing is a fraud everybody knows it call it uh and all their attempts to say don't talk about whistleblower names don't talk about jurors all of that is just pure mafia tactics he was just talking about in the press conference so talk about roger uh and and it's just a sign of what's going on he's done a lot of stuff like saying america's good and it's good to have borders that the globalists don't like i mean they he has done a lot has good instincts in many ways and and i don't think it's a bad by saying two things i've done an assessment of him pochinic smart uh trump is not a wimp but he's he's not as you know tough as he says he is when it comes to extremely manipulated it seems

like maybe that's a really big on alex's show if alex says he's not tough that might be the final straw right there that is something that you do not say but like alex's show and his world is so built on toxically masculine yeah and the like the protection of masculine imagery oh yeah trump is a bull he's out there just of course wrecking shop on people so strong the idea that steve because steve was talking about that when he came back on the show that he's really not that uh tough it's a facade that he puts on that's why he needs a malania a lot of us to fire people yeah so jesus so alex you know being like you know trump isn't that tough is a huge slap in the face whereas that might be something in another context someone else saying it you're like

it's an interesting thought for alex to say it it's equivalent to him being like he's not a man it is honestly honestly saying he should shove ices up his dirty asshole is like oh that's just gentle ribbing amongst friends saying that you're not tough is yeah fill your hand territory yeah i am yeah so this caller and alex keep talking and alex brings up that like uh hey you know people who stand up for trump they end up getting in trouble and this caller brings up something that i think is so fucking hilarious it catches alex so off guard look look juliani stood up for him and went after the deep state and they're trying to indict him i guess he'll just note i'm not just cutting juliani loose give me a break well don't you think juliani is a kind of shady he was probably

involved in covering up 9-11 when he was mayor oh there's no doubt uh he knew about that stuff and went along with that i'm talking about the season we're in now yeah but juliani i don't is a smart guy he's corrupt i don't think he's out to get america wait but he was involved in 9-11 whoops uh alex don't you remember how this is the guy uh oh no he was totally involved oh do you hear what he said there too is like i'm more concerned with the season we're in yeah it's exactly what i'm sure this guy did 9-11 helped cover it up yes absolutely but he likes trump now that's the season we're in come on man all that other stuff is not supposed to be important anymore continuity what are we doing there's no cannon hey look i know i yell all the

time about the mainstream media thinking you have no memory but you're not supposed to have a memory yeah come on quit it i know i built my career on 9-11 and all of this shit yes absolutely 100 forget about juliani and all the surveys i back right it's not important he's trump's lawyer now and it's great i know you remember the original version but mclunky so we just got to do this okay it's the same thing with that rick perry thing yeah it's the same thing like all this stuff is such bullshit and it's so awesome to hear somebody like one of these callers who is like on board with alex and alex feels like like a safe a false sense of security so safe yeah this color that rightly brings up hey aren't we supposed to not like juliani well yes okay but now hi this is a

tough one yeah hold on i'm going to need somebody to give me a cookie while i munch this over at the end of the fucking clip alex saying i don't think he's trying to screw over america yeah how do you square that i well i mean because he's helped stage 9 11 it got us into the war in iraq and he's not trying to screw over america right so this is the end of the i guess what you would call the substantive roger stone uh pageant right i don't know on the 14th you have alex really acting irresponsibly whether or not uh uh stone sent him a message or not yeah i have no position on that because i can't possibly have a position on that but i can say whatever message roger sent him alex deeply editorialized in a way that jeopardized roger's freedom so after the uh

the verdict then on the 15th alex responds to the verdict being passed by um marketing heavily yeah and signaling a very clear interest in exploring the idea that trump is not good yeah and that it might be time that we got a jump ship so that's pretty interesting that is pretty interesting but now uh he also talks to roger's friend tyler nixon i don't really give a share it's just basically roger's cool and he's fine yeah um there's another narrative that comes up and that is i'll let i'll let alex explain it okay and running man that written by steven king turned into a movie the government can show one person that really killed somebody but then put somebody else's face on it with computers it's set in the future wow it's even

setting like 2020 or something but that's how crazy all this is this morning i'm working out and my workout partner goes look at this funny video that your son rex tweeted and as soon as i saw the video i called rex up this morning he's 17 about to finish high school and i said you said that i sent you this video and he said oh i just did that as a joke and i said well okay somebody's taking a blue screen of me that's footage that i shot a while back to send to carpe dunked him i've talked about this on air so he can make some memes we did a lot of the funny things i've done on air over the years so he could put my head and body on different things and then i guess somebody in the process is has sent out this this green screen video

trying to track down now i'm told i'll be in court over this for uh corrupting minors so alex's son tweeted out a green screen video of alex doing some rapping a little bit of rapping okay and in the background it's like booty dancers okay it's just like women shaking their ass and stuff right and so his son tweeted this out yes so that's one state part of this right now the second part of it is alex says that someone put this over the green screen footage and he's trying to sort out who did it i got one culprit carpe dunked him yeah it's very obvious you sent that you gave him that so if you sent him that and no one else presumably i mean if you sent it to other people then check in with them too but if you only sent it to carpe dunked him he knows

who he gave it to right now we got more suspects okay whatever the case is this investigation runs through one man and his name is carpe dunked yeah so check in with that guy don't blame anybody else for this this is a little prank i'm gonna have to go with deep state on this yeah that's probably the day i'm gonna have to go with the deep state yeah god he sounds like such an old man yeah that is that is weird old grandpa but so now i find out that my image can be put on the internet whenever they want and my son tweeted it out my son tweeted two people to talk to your son and carpe dunked him yeah don't bring this on your fucking radio show and now that you mentioned your son on the air his twitter account has been taken away from so now alex

seems to think that no one understands what green screens are oh boy and this video is going to send him right to jail jesus christ i'm gonna have to explain in court and i said what if i was in the street with a bunch of women shaking their butts they're not naked well it's just not good for kids to have you know uh to be out with their dad with the women it's like some 1990s video someone put behind me and they won't understand it no one does yeah no we do i don't even know what to do anymore they're on the news saying it's illegal to say who the damn whistleblower is when it's not so everyone understands the green screen i don't think i'll have a very tough time with that you know that is that is i i i do i do feel for people

who are just absolutely unprepared for technology of any kind uh huh like i mean imagine you know you're my grandpa who was born in the 1920s is she lived through the great depression she couldn't possibly have imagined that somebody could just take her face and make it say things like of course she begin to cry and like lose her shit that's too big for her but i don't think alex is overwhelmed by the actual technology no absolutely not everyone else exactly he does yes which which proves he himself is overwhelmed by all the technology to an extent i mean this is a zero to me i mean as it as it relates to the actual video i think it's just a dumb alex meme yeah and i don't really give a shit about it um but as it relates to alex's like

covering of it it's weird i because he seems to be legitimately concerned he really does that there will be a consequence he really does for this green screened video to the extent where i feel like he's trying to get ahead of the story because he ends up playing it on his show it makes me feel like he in my mind here's what he thinks is going to happen in court he's going to go to court he's going to play that video and then he's going to play the video that was super imposed on it so you can see both of them playing side by side right and it'll prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that of course this one time stamp from 30 years ago could not be the same video and the jury will be like nope looks the same guilty because there's so because they don't understand it yeah exactly

so like i said he's trying to get ahead of the story and here's that carpe dogs and one of me to do some of the funny things i've said over the year over the years and i have sung to this song before i think once and that's it so they put me over it it's my crime i'll probably go to federal prison for it here it is booty booty everywhere rocket everywhere rocket everywhere i know this is embarrassing this is embarrassing not least of which because we already got their first carpe fucking dunked him oh this is so embarrassing dunked him we got there first buddy so on this episode where roger has been convicted um alex spends a considerable amount of time doing damage control about a meme yep yep

that cannot possibly hurt him he's doing damage control about something that can provide zero damage it can only actually hurt him in the court of public opinion among like more puritanical elements of his audience and if he's concerned who don't understand green screen and if he's concerned about that that's also tragic i'm going to lose out on my don't understand about green screen market yeah so like i said he talks to tyler nixon and it's mostly just roger didn't do anything wrong he's being jammed up of course i don't really care it's not really all that interesting so i'm going to end on a call that alex gets because i like to end episodes sometimes on upsetting notes okay yes and this call is very much upsetting i know we all want to do things

like i said i am active duty law officer but stop firehead says there's a time for everything and we've been legal and lawful and look what it's got us god put trump in to give us a second chance has he done good things yes but he has had he has allowed rod people like roger stone and wiki leaks and everything else to go on for us to be have our hands tied behind our backs while we think we're in a fight well we're losing and it's time to get hardcore and it's time to get extreme because we're losing our country i'm predicting trump will be impeached because look what they've done they've silenced you i've been banned from facebook and twitter multiple times roger stone has been convicted everything is falling apart he has trump has not stood up for

the internet censorship we cannot speak anymore we've lost our country as you've said today we live in clown world now is the time to make a stand because if we don't alex i'm afraid we're not going to have a country to come home to so he references clown world of course a neo nazi meme yeah um and and you know what that could not be more fucked up no because we got a law enforcement or at least someone who's saying he's a cop yeah um and what is he suggesting we've tried doing this the legal way we've tried doing all that and it's not working we need to get extreme so the only conclusion you can take away from that is let's do illegal shit yeah and if you listen to alex's show what does that mean well i generally think it means it's a reference to uh killing people yeah

yeah hunting globalists all right so if we've tried all of our legal and lawful options clearly what we need to do is figure out more legal and lawful options i think that's what he's trying to say we need that he's saying we need to be more creative within the law that's what he's describing dan sure there's no way that a uh active duty law enforcement officer self described with very keen neo nazi ties would be interested in violence dan see this this is the part where it's really interesting because i think that there is a dichotomy at play and i don't know how alex can possibly work with it and that is that there is this element of his audience that is like he's they see the uh roger being convicted and it's like well it's time to get our guns yeah you know

there is no hope trump isn't going to do it therefore it's time to shoot right and i don't know how you um suppress that urge in your audience alex because he's built it up over time like hey it trump is our last hope if it doesn't work out then we have to go to the gun like that sort of thing has been a mainstay of his rhetoric for a long time yeah but simultaneously you start to see like i don't think that that's what alex is experiencing in his transition because if he goes away from trump it's not necessarily at least what i hear in this episode yeah i don't hear him being like calling for since trump didn't do it we gotta fucking start a civil war yeah i think that his attempts to focus on hillary his attempts to sort of re maneuver what he's doing um it could

lend itself to more info war yeah so you have that and then you have this element of the audience i don't know what you can do with it but it doesn't seem good this is this is the uh that call is very scary well yeah not least of which because combine that with alex moving away from trump like anytime you know in in regards to trump world uh that we now exist in we saw this bubble up in real time yeah from this level on the right wing they we don't get trump if it doesn't bubble up from down where we are right now this this desire for a autocratic dictator right yeah this kind of thing bubbling up from below now the idea of well we gotta we can't be on trump's team we need to be anti whomever but we're no longer on trump's team we're no

longer protecting him combined with the we've lost complete faith in trump we need to start fucking guns out all day if that is kind of the new dichotomy that the conservative party winds up breaking into uh some weird shit's going to go down yeah but i think you're already seeing this like with the stuff with nick fuentes and his guy is trying to attack uh the uh the the turning point events not attack but yell at them and right disrupt them minorly inconvenience though yeah i think that sism is going to be real and that's one of the things i think is most troubling about the possibility of alex turning on trump is it will radicalize further yeah a certain segment of his audience yeah and the direction that they're going to go is kind of expressed by this cop

yeah alleged absolutely and so that that's something where like i never thought about this before but and i'm sure alex hasn't either but there is a part of his turning on trump that like it's a great responsibility for him there is there is he doesn't do it the right way a lot of people are going to die or at least theoretically yeah yeah there is like a real possibility of like real damage uh that could be done we've been betrayed even by alex right that means there's that means we don't even have alex in the info war anymore it's just you and me well there yeah because if trump can be shown to be a trader or whatever then anybody can alex can all you know it's uh and where you go from there what you choose to take as like a good source or

that stuff is troubling it's troubling to think how you could go like what's worse yeah and that's what you would end up doing that is i mean it's it's very predictable this going down the way it has some when you when you figure the the power structures in the right wing have always been attempting to co-opt the lower classes by distracting them with race and cultural issues and so on and so forth in order to to do all this shit and by being able to channel that rage they've been able to exist in a state of minority rule for fucking forever and now the rage is kind of getting out of their control and they don't know how to react to it because half of them are that rage you know the power structure used to just be people controlling it and now half of them are just as

crazy as everybody else yeah so i don't know it's getting wild yeah i don't know when you say it's predictable it it's not that it is predictable like i have no idea what's going to happen but it's inevitable yeah that we would get to this point yeah this this fractioning of of stuff is inevitable yeah and we've always yeah we've always referenced it many times the in group only gets smaller yeah yeah and it's troubling to think what could happen as a consequence of alex turning on trump if he doesn't do it right yeah and i honestly think that bringing back steve and bringing back larry and having joel scousen have a more prominent position in the show if that is alex trying to maneuver getting away from trump i think is incredibly responsible i hate to say it we will

we will upon results if that's what he's doing that is a way to sort of neutralize some of that wind up having to give alex a kudos for safe no no it's probably accidental yeah i know and in the same way sort of doing it doing it in a way where you don't outright hate trump and it's not like a violent break no is also more responsible than as a as a snapping of a twig yeah where you just freak out and scream at trump the the gradual disillusionment might be a much softer landing in some ways you would hope but whatever the case i mean i hate to make predictions because i'm always wrong but we'll see what happens i i guess the biggest problem i have is just the the way that they had to portray it uh against hillary with it being like our last hope and so on and so

forth so now it's it's very much that like we everybody gets disillusioned with the political process yeah everybody winds up thinking that politics is going to be able to do something and then it fails you in some way or no that's the system it's designed that way yeah but whenever the guy that you have touted as the last guy turns out to disillusion you yeah why bother with the next election yeah why bother with it that the last guy is nothing that's how disillusionment becomes despair yeah almost yeah and uh despair in the hands of people who are let's say inclined towards militias and the world of you that that um yeah is expressed by these anti-communist propagandists that you know the legacy that includes the turner diaries and siege right all

this like that kind of despair is weaponized really easily yeah or at least it weaponizes the right word it becomes a weapon really easily and so i hope that that's not the case anyway i think that's the big difference between our two sides uh when we got faced with this kind of despair we started a podcast yeah yeah um so i don't know we'll see what happens in the future and it's really interesting to see that like this is how alex responds um narratively and also like he was sure he was going to get found guilty so there's no like real surprise no there's no need for a freak out necessarily right the only real moment of like non-normal alex yelling freak out is when someone didn't have a story that he needed yeah i know and had to go to go to a special

report ongoing problems with the production is fantastic so i mean i think that's really interesting we'll see what happens but for now we have a website we do have a website it's knowledge fight dot com that's correct we're also on twitter we are on twitter is at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed jordan we're also on facebook we are on facebook and if you would like to download the show please go to itunes or other podcast dual apps and download it from there and tell your friends and so on you know the game y'all so until next time uh i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i am a weird freaky egyptian type demon andy and chansas you're on the air thanks for holding hello alex i'm a first-name caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you