Knowledge Fight - #377: December 6-10, 2019

Episode Date: December 12, 2019

Today, Dan and Jordan look at a confusing stretch in the present day of the Alex Jones Show.  In this installment, Alex repeatedly refuses to dignify the story about him in the New York Times, comes ...out as at least semi pro-orgy, and announces a very bizarre plan for a publicity stunt.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge I stand and you're a knowledge fight need money Andy and Kansas stop it. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy and Kansas you're on the air thanks for holding. I'm a huge fan of your word knowledge fight knowledge fight dot com. I love you. Hey everybody welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan. We're a couple dudes like sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh indeed we are Dan Jordan Dan Jordan. If you recall I recall everything you perfect recall you kind of do it's kind of creepy. I do absolutely not. You had a bet with a friend and your hair was incredibly long. Yeah. My question to you is a gift. Yeah. Would you ever grow your hair out again. I mean of course I would but I don't want to I mean voluntarily. My hair grows really fast. It's a real hassle for me like it's a situation where I have to either like accept very heavy expenses going to a barber shop or just buzzing my head in intervals and that's the method I'm going with right now. You're going to stick with that periodic buzzing. Yeah. I just yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I'm not. I'm not good with the hairdos or moose moose moose. One of you put moose in you when I was much younger.
Starting point is 00:01:58 All made. Yeah. I'm not good. You are a dapper man. Yes that's good with that sort of stuff. I don't know if you're supposed to part in the middle or to the side. I don't understand. I don't get any of it. My head looks pretty decent just buzz. Yeah. I'm kind of like I'm cool with that and then just hoping like eventually I either go bald or gray. Yeah. Which point then I'll figure out what to do with. Yeah. Yeah. I'm on my way to bald. So I don't have to worry about it for too much longer. I know that when I had hair down to like my shoulders and passed that down down to my back like I don't want to do that ever again. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's too much. You had to condition the shit out of that. I imagine right one might. Yeah. Fair enough. Yeah. It was a hassle and I really really hate when my hair gets long enough that it's like in my eyes. Yeah. Really find that to be such a nuisance especially that middle ground where it's too short to put behind like an ear and too long to not keep out of the eye. My hair is just super disagreeable to begin with. Anyway I'll probably just keep buzzing my head for a bit. I guess where I don't know a lot about moose but I do know a bit about Alex Jones. And did you do and I don't know anything about either. Right. Jordan. Hey today we got an episode. I figured what we would do today is like continue a little bit in the present day because I felt like there was stuff that was going on that felt a little unresolved. Like I didn't you know at the end of our last episode Alex was really freaking out about something and it definitely appeared to be that New York Times story that had come out that same day. Absolutely. I made some assumptions about like that's probably what's going on but I wanted to know a little bit more. I wanted to test my assumption and see if you know if that was actually the case and see if he actually responded to that story at all.
Starting point is 00:03:40 For sure. So I continued here. And so what we're going to be doing is covering December 6 to the 10th but it's really just the 6th. OK. It'll become clear why the 10th is involved and then there'll be a sting at the end of it. I imagine there is a coda. But yeah so we'll get to that here in a moment. But before we do Jordan take a little moment to say thank you to some folks who signed up and are sporting the show. So first Sean thank you so much you are now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonkì…˜ next Stein Thank You so Much you are now a policy wonk I'm a policy one Thank You Stein so much next Atylure muse. Thank you so much You are now a policy won. I'm a policy one. Thank you Atylure Muse next Isobel Thank You so much You are now a policy wonk I'm a policy Wonk Thank you Isobel next Bradley Thank You so much you are now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk Thank You Bradley Thank You and finally policy nonk Thank You so much You are now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk Thank You policy nonk Where's nonk Where is nonk Thank You so much if you were out there listening or thinking hey I like this show I'd like to support with these gents too you can do that by going to our website knowledgefight.com clicking the button it says support through we would appreciate it would be delightful so quick little note here yes sir I'm getting into this
Starting point is 00:04:52 new schedule here of the Tuesday Thursday episodes two week I'm not enjoying it much okay okay and it's not the two episode aspect of it I just doesn't feel right somehow okay and so I think I hate to make these fine tune adjustments after we've already made an adjustment naturally you kind of have to so I think what I'm going to do is I'm going to say starting next week we're going to go Monday Wednesday yeah I think that feels a little bit more better and I've heard some feedback from listeners that they missed starting the week with the show okay yeah that works and that makes sense because a lot of people listen at offices and things like that and I've heard enough of that kind of feedback and I'm also have experienced a little bit of myself in terms of the workflow that I think that that's a much better schedule and I only chose Tuesday Thursday because it seemed like it was spread out yeah right I had no marriage to those dates or anything like that so we'll have episodes on Monday and Wednesday and then the other thing that that adds
Starting point is 00:05:54 I realized and this is not a backdooring of trying to get back to three episodes I really feel like you're about to I'm not specifically doing that but having Monday and Wednesday be the episodes allows us to in case there's an emergency have an episode on Friday that's true and that that possibility is much better than having the Tuesday Thursday where it's like well if something happens at the end of the week that's like critical right to talk about it's just a scramble yeah and then we like well we'll get to it on Monday or Tuesday yeah I think it allows us a lot more flexibility and better serves the people who have responded right right so that will be you know moving forward we're going to do Monday and Wednesday yeah so little business yeah I think that's a good idea yeah I think so I think it'll be you know a whole lot of this show is like learning by doing and so yeah you know we start doing something and then you start to adjust a little bit that's just kind of how I feel so get ready for that let's do it next Monday so we start here on the
Starting point is 00:06:55 sixth and the fifth was the day of the last episode we covered Alex ends the show and just a fucked up headspace he needs to get off there he's talking about how like it's coming time to kill people yes he was doing that and it's just it was very intense it was a bummer yeah and so we start on the sixth and Alex is a little bit more contemplative it is December 6th 2019 on this Friday worldwide broadcast I'm your host Alex Jones and I tend to get in here at the beginning of a broadcast and have this whole transmission planned out within about an hour I've ended up only covering two subjects or so and then I start getting really mad at myself so I'm going to try as best I can in the first 30 minutes to just hit all this news even if I just mention it and then try to that's not helpful the topics so we can open the phones up because I love taking your calls this is so standard now like this has become just like his boiler plate
Starting point is 00:08:00 intro intro to episodes like it's not every episode but it's very regularly he's starting shows with I realize that I never get to anything yeah and this time I'm going to do it and I'm going to take your calls it's going to be great I'm going to do what I set out to do right it makes me it makes me worry that he's never going to quit drinking well I don't know I don't know if he's drinking I'm going to quit drinking today like we've promised we've discussed in the past that like Alex has said that he's stopped drinking and that he's like I don't know it was like 90 days off booze right and Rogan said that he Alex had told him that behind the scenes great and it's entirely possible I know I'm not I'm not one to be like make accusations on on that because the kids behaviors that we could pinpoint as his drunk behaviors like yelling at that woman cupcake on the street yeah talking about pissing on a tree stumbling staggering yeah slurring words there are those yeah and drinking on air like those I have not seen during this time so I believe
Starting point is 00:08:56 that however is it saying that I'm going to get down to business and really take care of shit exactly that is never will power I'm not saying that his willpower is not strong enough to quit drinking but to do his job well impossible well see that's what that's what it comes down to is it's a different muscle I think I think that you know what what he what is going on is is that he recognizes that there is an issue but he also doesn't have a solution to that issue no it's definitely not mentioning because the buckling down and actually getting to these new stories would require like actual meat and substance and he knows that there's nothing past headlines now he knows that if he talks about any of these stories without just ranting about the devil if he takes more than a minute or two on any of these stories it immediately falls apart yeah so he knows he can't buckle down but he also recognizes that is what I should be doing yeah so you start every episode of like this is the time I'm going to actually get down to
Starting point is 00:09:56 it so that's great but he does actually talk about some news as you mentioned any lines he does mention something and this is this is something that's carrying over from the fifth is at the end of the episode on the fifth Alex said that there was a story a big story about Putin that he needed to get to yeah and he's like I didn't even do it I didn't even get to the story and so here on the sixth he makes right and gets to that story now some of this news is news I didn't get to yesterday that's so important I must cover today and that of course is Putin says in some countries the world in some countries the world the word mother is being replaced now how big a statement is that and it's actually true and just let that sink in let it sink in Jordan okay I've let it sink in wow those quick don't care okay that's an interesting response so Alex is covering a story about Vladimir Putin expressing some comments in a meeting that was taking place with the Russian Council for
Starting point is 00:10:59 interethnic relations Putin said quote you see the word mother cannot be replaced turns out maybe it can they've replaced it in some countries with parent number one and parent number two I hope that never happens here for one not even the people who encourage the usage of terms like parent number one or two or they're not trying to force people to stop saying mother and father it's more of an effort to societally recognize that not all families fit the same quote on quote traditional definitions that have been considered the norm for so long for instance on school forms it makes sense to have parent number one and two since the child's parents may not be one mother and one father and in terms of that form the language does nothing to diminish one's fatherhood or motherhood no it's superfluous no but it man it sure seems like some really stupid people will get up in arms if somebody with power lies to them it's one of those things that is it's
Starting point is 00:11:51 it's a way you can really incite somebody over nothing yeah it's easy stuff really yeah I think that Putin's thinking about this is a little bit lame at least the way it's being expressed but I think it's even lame or how it there this article that I read about it on RT and the article was written by Neboza Malik who's credited as a senior writer but this last paragraph reads more like a fucking Facebook post quote while Western quote unquote human rights groups may be girding their loins to condemn Putin's remarks as yet another example of oppression in Russia they should hold their horses before cashing those lobbying checks in the meeting he also talked about welcoming the accept welcoming and accepting immigrants condemnation of ignorance and extremism in support for Russia's indigenous peoples who live in better conditions and in far larger numbers than Native Americans it should be said that would complicate the virtue signaling morality plays
Starting point is 00:12:46 that pay their bills though so we shouldn't hold our breath damn wait was that was that reporting it's hard to tell was that in was that in a like news article or was that a op-ed for the Wall Street Journal because it feels like that could be either or both it's hard to tell like as a bit of the article is presented kind of as as a news piece about the these comments that Putin said in right in this meeting but it also could have been more of an editorial yeah it could have been but whatever the case is a little bit about yeah whatever the case is that tone at the end there is pretty that's that's that's like somebody wanted to start a flame war like what are you doing it sounds like a Paul Joseph Watson script absolutely you virtue signaling you virtue siglers players quote unquote human rights groups with your lobbying caching your sorrows checks your virtue signaling get out of here damn we love Putin bring back mother and father
Starting point is 00:13:42 oof so Alex it's Alex's complaint about this seems to come from a place of admiring Putin standing up to the PC police who are completely out of control and they wish to minimize language in order to control the population but that's an absurd notion I could just sincerely believe that that's what's Putin what Putin's doing considering that the Kremlin banned swearing and quote books films music theater and popular blogs back in 2014 which was to quote if you quote from an article in The Guardian a quote attempt to cleanse the Russian language in order to ensure its purity just imagine for a second how Alex would feel about the US federal government banning swearing in the arts and he would be it would be absurd like his his like unhinged reaction to that also there's a law in the books called article 280 point one in Russia which makes it a crime to make statements denying the territorial integrity of Russia which is a
Starting point is 00:14:36 pretty serious impediment to opposition organizing I don't understand how that could be in 2015 to 2016 in that year 15 people were charged under this act eight of whom oppose the annexation of Crimea you can see how this sort of law should be a pretty huge red flag for someone like Alex who has this kind of nationalist states rights mentality that Alex does and yet I've never heard this come up as an example of Russia's crackdown on speech none of this is ever it's just hey he said the same sort of shit I say about how they're trying to ban the word mother yep you can also see that this weird sort of chauvinist streak in it to there's a there's or they're trying to but he specifically says they're trying to ban the word mother right so we need to protect women from this kind of there's chauvinist chivalry yeah straight up bullshit yeah so this is a big piece and who's for Alex although he does in much his normal style just touch on it and then move along
Starting point is 00:15:35 I imagine he agrees with the whole swearing thing but that's mainly because he agrees with any statement that begins with all the time yeah but he agrees with any statement that begins with cleanse and ends with purity I don't think he worries about the middle ground or the middle parts of that I do think those get his ears yeah yeah he's a little stoked about that yeah you know like you could you could say like hey the federal government does enact swearing laws in terms of the FCC of course but of course that doesn't cover a whole host of media that is covered absolutely elsewhere so we're not talking about the Afghanistan war that argument doesn't really track quite as quite as well not even a little bit so Alex doesn't talk about this story that much it's just sort of a hurrah yeah what a how great it is to have Putin making these statements that support my same stupid yeah a world leader is saying something that I would say so I'm gonna crow about it
Starting point is 00:16:34 yeah and then RT is writing an article that sounds like my second in command editorial copy but Alex is much more interested in talking about this New York Times article so he finally whereas on the fifth the response was I'm not gonna dignify this with the response and then freaking out on air right by the sixth he's got a pretty robust he's gonna indignify it with the response yes although he will keep saying I'm not even going to talk about this of course here's where he begins at a New York Times article I'm gonna dignify yesterday saying that I secretly hunt and then cover up videos of the animals I've shot imagine the aliens that live in New York some areas in those high rises that right for the New York Times who actually think like hunting is illegal and that you should be arrested if you're hunting and then and then I'm covering up videos of animals I've hunted we've played some of those videos bizarre but like he was
Starting point is 00:17:41 heterosexual no and he had children is trying to create these straw man shit about this article jingle keys a little bit more yeah in case you are unaware out there listening one of Alex's ex-employees wrote an article for the New York Times called I worked for Alex Jones I regret it and he discussed his time there and Alex was you know is presented as a really abusive employer and one of the main takeaways that everybody had about it was his discussion of a time that he was sent to cover a community a Muslim community called Islam Berg in in the at the northeast and he didn't get the story that Alex would have wanted and so they manufactured a story out of it yeah and so that that's kind of the thing that I think people take as the most important piece of that and did anybody think that they weren't making stories up or something well I think that you know people give a lot more credence to like I worked there this is my personal experience with it then
Starting point is 00:18:43 the very clear evidence you can get by just watching his yeah I was gonna say and I understand why because you now have someone who's like what about this sure yeah and there's one thing that I thought that I want to express this and it didn't come to me until later and that is that no matter what I might feel about that article and how like a lot of it isn't really stuff that you can act on you know because there's a lot that you can just dismiss Alex just dismisses like well that's not true he's lying yeah whatever I might feel about it there's an overarching positive to it that I don't think that we we pointed out there's a possibility that there are many former infowars employees that would like to come out and talk about their experience at the company but they've been too afraid to based on the NDAs that Alex allegedly has people sign if Josh Owens has the guts to come forward and the result is that nothing bad happens to him that could have the effect of emboldening others to speak out and then the
Starting point is 00:19:38 stories of what work is like it infowars could be more than subjective telling of tales there could be people like yes I can back up that that did happen I was there when that happened now you've got corroborating stories and if that's the result the destruction of the illusion that Alex can keep people silent then I think that this could do a lot of good sure I think that that's a positive that maybe we didn't pay attention to on the last episode and possibly one of the reasons why Alex would be pretty upset about it yeah if if if there's a puncturing of his ability to have control over things sure that would be very threatening as for the stuff about Alex hunting with the handgun that's in the article that's cruel and it's a betrayal of Alex's supposed responsible gun use narratives but it's also something that you just have to take Josh's word for plus if Alex's audience heard that he hunted bison with inappropriate weapons I don't think they'd care at all which is why that this is the safe subject for Alex to create a straw
Starting point is 00:20:36 man with the article out of it's just like oh yeah they just they can't handle hunting yeah I mean it's just bullshit yeah the moment he put hunting in there I was like whatever yeah so Alex is going to get back to this it's going to be sort of a running theme him responding to this New York Times article while saying I'm not going to respond to this but he he discusses in this next clip how at the end of the day on the fifth he wasn't distracted because of this New York Times story okay so he was distracted because of that New York Times story certainly felt like it was that it certainly did he comes out and he literally just said in that first clip I'm not going to the article that I'm not going to dignify with the response here's my response to the hunting part okay all right and pretending the hunting part is like the totality yeah the main issue no it's not that although all appearances and the sort of trends you can pick up from Alex's psychology would tell you that that is absolutely 100% it is not okay Alex has a big story
Starting point is 00:21:37 okay and then let me just tell listeners if I sound distracted towards the end of the broadcast yesterday we're working on big stories that are confirmed that there are white man's going around picking people up all over the United States but also black SUVs and we've solved the mystery of what's causing this panic across the country and let me just leave it like this we were out last night at 10 o'clock at night sneaking around in the bushes in Austin Texas what bushes and what we've got is so big that I'm going to be up here Saturday and Sunday separate from the regular Sunday show I do normally hear from about two to six I'm going to be here both days working on see this big stack right here it's empty and the documents and the witnesses and all of it because when people see folks being put in vans and folks being put in black SUVs by men in suits it's like something out of a ex files episode and people just know instinctively that's scary sure not not going to disagree people being thrown in vehicles is scary there was one purple Buick though and that was that was less scary
Starting point is 00:23:05 somehow a little bit less a little less scary yeah so this is a little complicated so I'm going to try my level best to lay this out for you Alex has been pushing a narrative for a couple days now but how there are people in white vans who are driving around the street snatching people up now it apparently has evolved into involving black SUVs as well and at this rate Alex will be telling people to fear all cars by January there's two basic elements to this narrative the first is a story that Alex reported from zero hedge back on December 4th with the headline quote Baltimore mayor warns of body snatching white vans targeting young girls to sell their organs in an interview with WBAL TV 11 mayor young said quote we're getting reports of somebody in a white van trying to snatch up young girls for human trafficking and for selling body parts his only reference and citation for this was posts on Facebook though he said it was quote something that our police officers are aware of because it's been reported this was immediately refuted by the Baltimore police department sure folks person sure clarified that the police were aware of these random Facebook posts
Starting point is 00:24:12 that were explicit that they have not received any reports of actual incident naturally naturally the FBI doubled down and said that there was nothing to this but they would be willing and happy to investigate any such reports that would be made if they're ever made this is an urban legend that's been naively repeated by a major city's mayor and thus given a level of credibility that it does not merit however this sort of thing has a self-fulfilling nature an internet hoax an urban legend it starts circulating on social media which then enters people's consciousness people exposed to this hoax are now living with a heightened suspicion of white vans as such the experience encounters with them differently than they would have previously if they see a van parked in a residential street previously it wouldn't have even registered in their mind but now with the kernel of this paranoia in there it becomes a deeply suspicious site is maybe there's kids walking around this residential neighborhood that means that's why that van is there obviously so you know they have this heightened suspicion which might prompt them to post their own story to Facebook to add to the urban legend
Starting point is 00:25:18 or even call the police thereby leaving a paper trail that seemingly justifies the urban legend with official documentation this phenomenon happens more than you'd like because people are susceptible yeah what was the have you ever seen that movie urban legend where everybody gets everybody gets murdered by a separate urban legend and there's like a guy and they're all doing it to make urban legends true it's terrible movie I feel like I probably saw that but I think it came out twenty years ago yeah it was pretty much the only one I remember is that apparently if you are passing a car yeah with its lights off right right you flash your lights at it then it's gonna turn around and fucking kill you yeah I remember that from like just being younger yeah yeah it's like a gang initiation yeah yeah that was all did you know that those are all white vans yeah true they are now yeah so this is more or less the process that took place on Facebook regarding white vans particularly in Baltimore through November twenty nineteen
Starting point is 00:26:17 that started to escalate quite a bit and now here we are oxygen reported that on the possibility that this has already led to one murder in Memphis Tennessee where a man named Nazario Garcia who drives a white work van was killed by the two sons of a woman who had hours earlier posted on Facebook about a guy in a white van trying to abduct her it's unclear if there was an attempted abduction underlying this but police have been clear that there's no evidence that Garcia had interacted with this woman previously to the earlier in the day or anything it's it's unclear if this was all related but it seems like a distinct possibility and if this white van paranoia is at the root of this killing it really highlights the danger that these sorts of mass paranoias carry with them if you create enough of a fever pitch of people thinking that folks driving around in white vans are sex trafficking kidnappers it's not unlikely that a certain number of innocent people who drive white vans could get hurt France twenty four reported back in March of an outbreak of white van abduction related hysteria which resulted in what they described as quote near lynchings urban legends were circulating on Snapchat WhatsApp and Facebook all surrounding the idea that white vans were going around kidnapping people there was no truth to these rumors but that didn't stop gangs of vigilantes from attacking camps of Roma people in northeast Paris setting their vans on fire and terrorizing families
Starting point is 00:27:42 these sorts of mass hysteria are profoundly dangerous and when they express themselves people seem to have a troubling tendency to direct their aggression towards vulnerable and alienated classes of people in France it was the Roma in our satanic panic of the eighties it was largely the LGBTQ community it remains to be seen how far this current American white van paranoia Alex is trying to stoke is going to go and who will be hurt but it is clear that if it does progress someone will get hurt yeah it's not going to go well it's a it's really disconcerting how easily a meme fear can just grip everyone and get people killed sure it should be harder right if if you just get a Facebook post and it's like white vans are stealing people you should be able to go like I fuck you I don't know until like the fucking news says well when the mayor says man murder yeah that's true that's true when the mayor says it though that's kind of that's upsetting yeah that's not good yeah that's pretty pretty disappointing to have sort of what would be the equivalent of like yeah being repeated by the the mayor of Baltimore so the other thing Alex is working in here to build this narrative is that recent release of the FBI documents about the finders the suspicious group from the eighties or as I call it the satanic panic we thought this is all that situation is a big kettle of fish and it might be something I'll get into at a later date but for now suffice it to say Alex has not read those FBI documents and he just knows that the story involves two suspicious men who drove a van I don't believe Alex was creeping around in the bushes last night trying to catch van snatchers and honestly if I had to guess he's just seen all the hoax Facebook posts and is reporting them as hard news and it'd be far from the first time he's ever done that
Starting point is 00:29:29 so he's got this big narrative it's all like this white van hysteria is is coming in it's it's rising in the info wars arena okay are you saying to me that he his big news is that he stayed out at ten o'clock when you know the the world is so quiet Nostin that nothing is going on that's when the white vans come out and play hiding in the bushes videotaping to see if there's any white vans anywhere near see it's complicated because that is the way that he's presenting it but I know from knowing where this goes that it also involves a secondary narrative that has nothing to do with this that he's combining okay he loses interest in the white van part of it and sure well yeah more into another side of it as things go along but we'll get to that it's really hard to sneak around in the bushes whenever you've parked your tank right next to that makes it a little bit obvious where you are yeah so he's still on the van narrative here but this is kind of where he leaves it now the rumor is they're taking organs which organs and we know some people have been kidnapped and organs have been taken I've got all the documents all the articles all the crime statistics government media saying none of it's happening go to sleep everything's okay but this is even more diabolical than that and it's the kind of thing where this one story if somebody broke this one story in their lifetime it would be the stuff of legend and of course when we break it they'll do everything they can to block it everywhere and because it's so incredible and so over the top and so confirmed no one will even care so this is the sort of self fulfilling prophecy of no one cares about whatever bullshit I'm coming up with yeah it's because it's so big not because it's misrepresentation of everything it's the stuff of legend mainly because it's not true
Starting point is 00:31:30 this is a career case yeah this is where you put this is where you make a name for yourself Matthew McConaughey is going to play me in the movie about this case totally this is this is me finding carcosa whatever Alex is finding Nemo it's it's it's a mess so the be you hear him say there that this is bigger than this yes and where he takes the bigger part will take up a bit more later in the episode but he gets distracted because this guy named Donald tusk who used to be the head of the European Council right tweeted a picture of himself putting like a finger gun up to Trump's back yeah I saw that and this is really angered Alex I guess what even though days prior Alex said that Trump has committed treason yes maybe working for Satan right there are both things that you would assume the punishment for well I mean you know whatever right it turns out that this guy tweeted out a picture and now Alex is fully back on board with Trump 100% right or die why this is the big EU party head a traitor to the Polish people he's hated in his own country with Merkel simulating shooting Trump in the back he had his assistant put the photo out he admits and he says Trump needs to be removed and he's openly calling for people to kill Caesar Caesar's dead and he says Trump is just a season he's going to be gone very soon and when I see stuff like that it really shows you how real Trump is he's a real president he's really trying to do the best job he can he's totally surrounded by traders no one will do what he actually says to do and I'm just going to support the president that's what is on my heart and that's my and I'm just back in Trump and it doesn't mean I'm gonna sit like a cult member and agree with everything he does it doesn't mean I'm gonna enjoy watching him leave us all out to dry to twist the wind because I got a crew that really bust their
Starting point is 00:33:40 ass and that means well and that are smart and do a great job and it's hard to run an operation with 100 people or so and what he's trying to do with all this obstruction in the mutiny he's under he's doing an A plus job and you know what what this is an instant gratification civilization and I think it's important to understand that we should thank God for Trump and he's leaving you to try and that's that's what I've wanted to say that's my gut response yeah I mean this is just such a clear cut thing like it it's so in line with Alex's psychology like he defines himself so much as like almost just a reactive force like it's it he needs the appearance of fighting against something or something fighting against him to validate and justify anything sure and so you've got this guy who's the former head of the European Council and he puts this picture out and it's like a proof that Trump is the enemy of the globalists therefore I have to support him 100% he only yeah he needs it's it's absurd it's fascinating to me how lame it is yeah but I mean okay so let's say Bernie Sanders does become president and there's an overwhelming Democratic majority in the Congress and we pack the courts and we do everything that the liberal dream would always want to be and the globalist hate it and the globalist hate it quote unquote globalist right but if he left me out to dry I would give him a B plus like I'm taking it down at least a little bit sure he's accomplished every liberal goal that I've always wanted but he's left me personally out to dry right right right right right but you're not taking into account is Alex's version of leaving me out to dry is part and like part and parcel of it is that Trump is selling us out to China which is the end of all civilization
Starting point is 00:35:31 right it's not just like he has you know not been cool with me sure or whatever sure it's not like he's not returning my calls it's the leaving us high and dry is the end of civilization as we know right so then I would give him a C maybe yeah it's not a minor thing it's kind of the whole thing you know you say that but just because there's the optics and the appearance of opposition with Alex's imagined enemies and Trump like there's tension between them he has everything he needs to just be like fuck it whole hog 100% I'm on board it should take longer it should take more it's very simple it should take more than a tweeted picture nope doesn't god damn it but Alex then says that this Donald Tusk guy should put that finger gun right up his ass there we go how about you come with that gun to my face because I'm going to take it out of your hands and shove it up your damn ass you little piece of filth excuse me delay that for family viewers how about you stick that gun to Trump's face I bet he breaks your jaw you little chicken neck rat I bet he doesn't these people are attacking us and threatening us and I'm sick of it but I can barely run this operation and I'm a hard working pretty smart person come on bring on done amazing things and he's the man in the arena unlike anybody else and I'm backing him back in him he's only the only justification for supporting Trump that lingers outside of like I really like the signaling xenophobia all that shit outside of that because you don't want to make that too overt all it is is defiance like it's just it's just a justification through defiance and it's very it's a very low level kind of reason to support somebody it's kind of sad
Starting point is 00:37:23 I mean it is one of the it is a major part of it though is that a large number of his supporters are happy with a crumbling country just so long as somebody finally tells everybody to shut the fuck up that they don't like like that's that goes a long way for a lot of people yeah there's a cathartic catharsis to it and but it's also again very low level very low level very low level rationalization but that's where we are just just like their proximity to the C level it's getting lower so if in case you need to this to be spelled out for you Alex is sporting Trump 100% and he will piss on you if you think he's wrong for clearly he's under globalist attack clearly this is a real attack they can't stand him because he's really the president and I'm backing him 100% today and he's left us calling him and I've criticized Trump thinking oh a chink is in the armor and oh you really backed him before though you're bad you'll never atone for yourself they're all into this fake moral justification how they're the moral authority and how you go to them like they're the high priest to get your moral ab solution I piss on you they only God I've got God God speaks to me through my conscience every millisecond I don't need to be lectured to by the left is he talking about us about about Trump and my support I'm proud I supported Trump I'm glad I got Trump in office I'm proud of being persecuted because it means I'm over the target no it doesn't that whole that whole mythology of like I'm being targeted because I'm right is like it's such a dangerous mentality it could be because you're very wrong
Starting point is 00:39:04 yeah like it sure yeah absolutely you could you could say that the evil bad guys are targeting you because you're too close to the truth but it's equally likely that just people are saying hey you're being a piece of shit yeah totally possible yeah it's that same thing as that like that Gandhi quote the people trot out it's like the first people make fun of you that you know that it's yeah yeah yeah the evolution is like it gets they mock you and then eventually you're right it's like sometimes people are just like you yeah and then you stay there don't think that that is the progression this always goes down that would be really terrifying if everybody who we ever mocked right eventually took over yeah that would probably not work right I mean eventually society would adjust towards like my instinct is to mock this person but I know they're they will be right eventually so I don't know it's just a bunch of horseshit anyway now we get to where this white van narrative kind of evolves and the offshoot of it the other piece of it comes into play and it involves people experiencing homelessness in Austin okay we've already heard back in October Alex of beginning the narratives about microchipping the homeless and yeah he goes pretty deep into this on this episode and it leads to one of the like most exciting things I think I've ever heard on Alex's show but also just like a lot of bullshit and this is the UN invasion and then you find out they've set it up in Austin they don't call it UN refugee center but it's the same groups running these and the cover for it is the giant homeless problem when the mayor said hey if you're in San Francisco if you're in L.A. if you're in Portland if you're in Kansas City if you're in New York if you're anywhere we've got the most free stuff and we're buying old hotels big ones and refurbishing them for you and you get free money free everything and we're building warehouses
Starting point is 00:41:05 with your own apartments come here and suddenly the number of homeless triple they admit in the last six months I mean they're everywhere we look like L.A. just like that. So I don't care about Alex's dumb xenophobic bullshit about refugees and immigrants he's discredited himself a hundred times over on that front so I can't even find the energy to respond to his attempts to make humanitarianism look like devilry. The story he's telling is the evolution of a larger narrative that we talked about a while back where he's been yelling about how they're putting microchips and people experiencing homelessness. We already discussed the reasoning for this and the reality of that proposal so it'd be a waste to go over all that all over again. I mostly pulled up this clip because Alex is just making things up. CBS Austin ran a story in March which covered the stats put out by a number of homelessness advocacy groups and in the past year there was a 5% increase in homelessness triple not a tripling. It's entirely possible that the number has risen since that point but we don't know that and we won't until the beginning of January 2020 when the advocacy groups do their annual information gathering. Put simply Alex is just making up the idea that the number of people experiencing homelessness has tripled in Austin. There's literally no way for him to back up that number and if called on it he would probably just appeal to ideas of seeing more people on the street and meaningless subjective things like that.
Starting point is 00:42:25 He's not making this number up to better serve these people who are in need. He's doing it to make them a threat. Yeah if the homeless population of Austin actually had tripled that would be Fox News's only story to distract from the impeachment hearings. It would be all day every day. Right and it would be something that people would be talking about even in non-fox news circles. Absolutely. Yeah it would be a big deal. So the issue here is what Alex is putting forth is the UN has set up these refugee centers and stuff along through Central and South America and they're trying to build them in Austin as well under the cover of a homeless shelter. That makes as much sense as anything else.
Starting point is 00:43:11 And then they're microchipping them for some reason. Right. So this is going to evolve over the course of this. And like I said there is just a real big like amazing moment that comes almost as a crescendo of this. They get builds and it builds. Okay I'm going to. Turning the hopeless into cyber cyborg warriors. You're thinking way too small.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Oh shit. Yeah taking them to space. This is the crescendo is not a narrative crescendo. Okay. It's a declaration. No. That I couldn't predict possibly and I found to be startling. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:53 And completely non believable. Okay. So we'll get to that as it as it builds. But in this next clip Alex lays out what the plan is moving forward and it has to do with like taking out Trump and then the ball gets rolling. So when you see Bill Ayers and all of them and it comes out in court they had a plan to put 50 million Americans in reeducation camps and kill 25 million. Remember that clip will play at start of next segment. That came out in court. That's always been the plan but they don't call them FEMA camps.
Starting point is 00:44:23 They don't call it a communist takeover. They overthrow Trump. They kill Trump. They stage a bunch of false flags to blame right wingers. They say we're terrorists. They arrest a bunch of the leadership. Thousands at first. You don't respond.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Then they start arresting hundreds of thousands. They take your property. They take everything. They've got you marked folks. You're a Republican donor. You're an NRA member. You own a car dealership. You'll be in the second or third wave.
Starting point is 00:44:48 They're going to come. If you resist they're going to kill you. They're going to take your property. They're going to take your wife. They're going to take your kids. They're coming. They did it everywhere else. Where?
Starting point is 00:44:57 Is it car dealers? Of course though if you don't complain they won't turn your bank account off but that's just because they haven't gotten to you next. You're like oh don't take my bank account. I support the roundup and you'll have to announce. You need to buy a new car. You deserve to be shot. Alex Jones deserved to be arrested or you know killed. He fought back you know they'll say.
Starting point is 00:45:14 And this is how they and they're testing it and they're doing it. And Soros is spending billions of quarter on this right now. He still gets State Department money. And we've confirmed they've got paramilitary in every town. They've got their people prepared. They've got warehouses ready. They've got the food ready for in the first wave of a collapse that they're trying to trigger. That Trump's fighting.
Starting point is 00:45:34 That's why he's trying to stabilize the economy because they were already supposed to implode it. That's why his main thing is to stabilize that constantly. And go around cheerleading and pumping up the stock market even though it's all fiat because he knows their plan was imploded and they admit that was their plan. So now you see why Trump's so desperate and fighting so hard. This feels so familiar. Like this is the same. Like Alex is now weaving back to a lot of the old same narratives from like 2009 forward like of the FEMA camps. I feel like we're in reruns right now.
Starting point is 00:46:04 But it has a new mask on it. It has a new layer of paint in the sense that like back then there was the summer of rage coming and they were going to crash the economy. And that was going to lead to people going into FEMA camps and all that. But now Alex is far more obsessed with false flags. Certainly like he he was to an extent back in 2009. But like after the Boston bombing and after Sandy Hook it went pretty wild. Everything is a false flag. Everything.
Starting point is 00:46:36 I'm more obsessed with that. So that becomes a big piece of the narrative. And now Trump is also like a secondary aspect of the narrative. Like what existed before was like I don't you know there's some reason why they haven't done this. Sure. There's a decade behind. There's some reason the plans aren't in place. It's not ready.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Whatever. And now Trump is filling that role. Trump is like cheerleading and keeping the economy afloat because he knows that that's the first domino that falls in their plan. So he's just repurposed their plans aren't ready. Right. Trump is stopping them. He's the bulwark against their plans being implemented. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Right. But he's our only hope. It's all the same like form. Yeah. Of the the same conspiracy that never was the eventual forced collapse leading to Alex and his buddies being taken to a FEMA camp. Sure. Who cares.
Starting point is 00:47:34 I mean not who cares. I mean if it was real I would be against it. But like I mean they're even coming after our car dealerships. That is weird. They're coming after our car dealerships. I understand why he'd say like an RA member Republican donor or that fits the fee. I didn't realize that car dealer was such a like synonym of right winger. I didn't realize anybody who offers zero percent financing for five years doesn't even matter
Starting point is 00:48:00 if it's at a car dealership Dan. I mean I guess that's maybe that's true. Maybe that's a stereotype but I was I was unaware what the car dealers are all Republicans third on the list third on the list. Yeah Republican donor. We got Adelson. We got Wayne Luppier and we got Danny's discount auto. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Gotcha. So Alex gets into talking about being in the bushes. I think it's unclear. Alex is speaking very on precisely here but I think he's talking about when they went out to get footage of stuff and he sees immigrants being bust somewhere. It's unclear. OK. I don't think any of this happened.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Sure. Then some people Alex has decided or gay start assaulting him in a very effeminate way. I don't I'm not OK with that sense at all. I don't think any of this is real. But here is Alex talking some shit. Our crew is across the street at night when they're sneaking hundreds of people out to be put on buses to be shipped all over the country unvetted unchecked nothing. And then men run across like you don't have free speech.
Starting point is 00:49:07 I mean just that's America. That's the left. Praise psychotics who are all getting paychecks to manage and run these. And now they're scooping the homeless up and give it a microchips and putting them in hotels in Austin. Oh we've been there. Yeah. Government you screwed up.
Starting point is 00:49:27 You didn't stop us. We got in all facilities. Next week it's all airing. We've really got your ass now. Hope you enjoy it. So that is the beginning of what really excites me. It's all coming out next week. I'm like there is going to be no something.
Starting point is 00:49:47 No this is not happening. Got me pumped. I swear to God if this is the Obama phone lady in a hotel I'm leaving. I legitimately have no idea what Alex is talking about. But if I know anything from my years of listening to him when he says he has a big scoop coming next week it means that scoop is not real and it's never coming. The only other possibility is that something does end up coming but it's a huge let down and nowhere near what Alex is claiming it is.
Starting point is 00:50:12 And honestly I don't know what the big conspiracy is here. KVUE the local Austin news channel reported back on November 14th about the city council granting unanimous approval for the city to repurpose an old hotel to be converted into a homeless shelter. Yes. Evil. It's not a secret. It's been publicly debated as a plan.
Starting point is 00:50:31 It's been very out in the open. If I had to guess someone who works at info wars read the story about this and realized that the name of the hotel they're planning to use was public. The KVUE article clearly says that it's the roadway in and even gives the location of it. It's the easiest thing in the world for Alex to send someone down there at night to get footage of the building in disrepair because it's an unused hotel. And part of what the city council was voting on was appropriation of funds to renovate the
Starting point is 00:50:58 hotel. I would predict Alex went down there and got some shots of the place looking like a disaster area. I don't really see what the other play is here because the story is a zero based on everything I can I can tell. The one area for manipulating optics is gaining footage of the pre renovation building and pretending that it's the condition it'll be in once it's up and running. But we'll see.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Yeah. It's also entirely possible that nothing ever materializes. It's cheaper than sending somebody to Islamberg. That's true. Yeah. It's possible nothing materializes and this is yet another instance of Alex bringing up something he has in his possession that will definitely sink his enemies that mysteriously has forgotten about within a few days.
Starting point is 00:51:36 He doesn't even have time to play it. There's too much. Too much. There's too much news. Dan this has shades of that time. Jerome Corsi had a dead man switch for some bombshell Seth Ritchie. So it was going to get him killed. Definitely never.
Starting point is 00:51:50 No. That was real. That was 100 percent real. It's just waiting there for somebody to kill Jerome Corsi. If I recall correctly the day Jerome Corsi was supposed to reveal that information. Alex didn't even show up for his show. Nope. The first half hour was special reports and then Roger Stone interviewed a musician.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Yep. Friend of his. Yep. That is such that is that is called a real good dodge. Yeah. So Alex has this narrative. I guess there's immigrants refugees that are being bust places. Then there's disguised as homeless people or something micro chipping putting in hotels.
Starting point is 00:52:30 It's very. I don't know. I don't know. Right. At this point what the fuck he's talking about. I don't know. I don't know what the conspiracy is. I don't know how this fits in with his collapse plan that Trump is stopping by keeping the
Starting point is 00:52:43 economy afloat. I don't understand this. They're going to teach all of the homeless people how to drive specifically white vans or black SUVs. Those are the only things that they can teach. It could be part of like a job training program. Yeah. You know like a lot of white vans or work vans.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Yeah. Have like you know people carry their tools for sure such. And so you know if part of you know getting back into life kind of thing you get maybe you're getting trained in carpentry. Yeah. You might drive a white van. Oh God. Somebody make sure that Austin doesn't allow people to drive white vans around.
Starting point is 00:53:16 It's ridiculous. Oh man. You know what I've got. I've got the solution. Everybody puts a yes album cover decal on their white van. Not a bad idea. Spray paint ever. But everybody knew that unicorns on the side of vans were splendid one day to save lives.
Starting point is 00:53:31 That runs into money though. Oh that's fair. That's fair. So Alex gets to talking about how evil the government is as is his tradition. But he realizes that like shit. I'm talking a lot of bad stuff about like people who might be inclined to like me. Yeah. And I'm supposed to be a guy who the military likes.
Starting point is 00:53:50 Sure. Supposed to be a guy who like the people on the ground like the suits. No. And so he has to correct himself really quick. People saw what happened to the RNC of the ATF and people were like and the secret servers like almost had me carried on their shoulders. They're good people. They know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:54:06 The average person in government. But at the top are a bunch of globalist ladies and gentlemen. I didn't even plug once this hour. And we got our biggest cells the year going right now. If I don't plug we're not going to be here on air. Bunch of these big cells are about to end. DNA Force Plus is selling out. The cell on that's over.
Starting point is 00:54:20 That's a that's what I call plugging on a dime. That was a. That was quick. That hinge. Yeah. Almost broke. Easy. That was that was like a white van coming to a stop.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Yep. So Alex said that way he was laughing about like ha ha. We got in. We got all the footage. Yeah. Globalist. You're all done. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:40 He said next week it's coming. And I was like shit man. I don't. Maybe it's you know I want to cover this if he's teasing it. I want to know when it's going to be out. And luckily he gives a specific. The UN invasion. The open borders.
Starting point is 00:54:52 The caravans. The refugee centers being built. It's not even in the news but we've confirmed it and have all the documents. I mean it's just crazy. We'll be breaking it all next Tuesday. Next Tuesday. I mean during the breaks I'm going back and looking at all this stuff. It's just amazing.
Starting point is 00:55:09 I got crew that's been working till midnight some nights on this without me even asking them to because it's so powerful. So this is why we are going to December 10th. Wait. Because that's Tuesday. With this is from last week which means that Tuesday when we are recording this is yesterday. Yes.
Starting point is 00:55:25 So we know for sure what this is going to be. I was very excited. He's released it. I had this situation on my hands where I was like all right. I want to check in. See because I figured eventually he'd have to talk about the New York Times article and some specific. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:40 And so I was like OK. I feel like that's at least something that we should cover. I think his response to it might be kind of interesting. And so I got into that. He reveals I'm going to drop this on next Tuesday. I was like I got to I got to get on my horse and ride. I've got to. I can't allow him to tease that.
Starting point is 00:55:59 No. No. No. Absolutely not. So I have unacceptable. I can tell you that I do know what happens on Tuesday. Oh yeah. And I do know what Alex says is going to happen on Tuesday because he gets even more explicit
Starting point is 00:56:12 later. And it's a bad he's one for one. He's nailed it. This is if there is an Alex that I enjoy this is kind. This is pretty close to it with hubris certainly pride coming before the fall. Yeah. So Alex announces this big news is coming on Tuesday. There's a lot to digest.
Starting point is 00:56:30 So he's not going to get to it now. He's got to talk about the Vegas shooting. No. He doesn't. This is really interesting because Alex has had a lot of ideas about the Vegas shooting in the past. The Mandalay Bay shooting. So is Stevie P's and while Steve says it didn't happen at all.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Right. And Alex was like. Well that's true. He only has one idea about the Las Vegas shooting. Fair enough. Bullshit. Yeah. Fake.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Alex has a lot of other ideas. He said that it was a Saudi Arabian civil war right or something like that. You know he said that it was Saudi Arabians attacking. So we know that he has that in his arsenal of narratives. He gets even more explicit in this clip and like I find this to be upsetting. Vegas you notice they would never tell you what happened and they just said don't ask questions and then they had all the witnesses and people saying no there were people getting shot inside hotels two miles away and they showed shot out windows and people saying
Starting point is 00:57:29 yeah the dead bodies were laying on the ground here and there were men running around screaming in Arabic. Yeah there were terror attacks all over the town. You notice Trump basically invaded Saudi Arabia. Arrested half the royal house and executed a bunch of them. I mean you know the U.S. invaded Saudi Arabia right. That's why Trump's big buddies with Saudi Arabia now because he arrested again half the top princess.
Starting point is 00:57:55 A bunch of them got their throat slit. I'm not really supporting what happened but for Vegas they got. He's doing an A plus job by their feet and tortured and a bunch of them killed. You know that all came out right. No. You know what they use is the torture centers. The fancy hotels. A Ruby Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:58:16 You know putting the homeless in former hotels in Austin. Really. As little UN reeducation camp bases that they're just getting ready for the collapse of the U.S. and that's the bureaucracy that if they collapse the U.S. is going to use COG to not just remove Trump but the civil unrest that comes out of it to bring in a permanent martial law. So every day I probably don't cover 10 articles. I would say that number is much higher every day.
Starting point is 00:58:48 I guarantee he doesn't cover way more articles than 10. Definitely. So you see that like that weak hinge there of like a hotel hotel. Ha ha. Everything's related. Lee Harvey Oswald driving a car. Who else drove a car. JFK.
Starting point is 00:59:04 We always knew it was going to happen. They're the same person. Same person. The Las Vegas shooting was not a series of terrorist attacks. Although a lot of really sloppy conspiracy theorists have made a bunch of very flimsy and ultimately debunked claims about the shooting attempting to make that very argument. Alex has had a lot of these people on to disseminate their bullshit. People like Shepherd Amblis who contends that there were helicopters shooting on the crowd
Starting point is 00:59:26 at that music festival and it's a reviewed that evidence and find it lacking. I just can't believe that Josh Owens was telling the truth when he said they made up stories. I just it's amazing. Yeah. I've looked into a lot of this stuff and a fair amount of it is just completely unfounded. Another chunk of it is based on pretty easily explained quirks of science like how acoustics work and can make it appear that there are multiple sources of gunfire when in reality you just hear different sounding shots.
Starting point is 00:59:55 It's the result of echoes. Another segment is people misunderstanding or misrepresenting erroneous immediate reports or police scanners and the rest of it is just the lingering remnant from people creating outright hoaxes intentionally in the aftermath of a tragedy which Alex never really looked into in his sense incorporated into his view of what was real. I know I've heard Alex say that there was a Saudi Arabian element to the attack before but the part about Trump involve invading Saudi Arabia as a response is kind of new. If Alex had any principles this imaginary action should absolutely make it impossible
Starting point is 01:00:28 for him to support Trump. If what Alex is saying was true then Trump would have clandestinely and without the approval of Congress carried out a violent action against a sovereign foreign power with a goal of regime change. I don't understand what your problem here is. This is something Trump would have to have been doing secretly which Alex should be against seeing as this would be a conspiracy that has enormous geopolitical ramifications and we can see the results that have come from it. From the gigantic weapon sales to the turning a blind eye to the murder of Jamal Khashoggi
Starting point is 01:00:58 to Trump vetoing a resolution that would have ended our support for Saudi Arabia's actions in Yemen. Alex always says you could judge a tree by its fruit and if that's the fruit of Trump's imaginary coup in Saudi Arabia that tree is not good. What he did was he invaded Saudi Arabia performed a coup of their government and then gave the previous government everything that it ever wanted. That makes perfect summarily executed people on behalf of us. So but for real that's all nonsense. I don't really care to take all that stuff seriously.
Starting point is 01:01:29 However there's one important feature that I think this clip highlights really well and that Alex Jones seems to be way less interested in sniffing out conspiracies and yelling about them if he feels like he's a part of them. He gets to act like he's in the know about this secret Trump invasion of Saudi Arabia. So he's not concerned really about how that action would be countered to literally everything he stands for. He's on the team. So it's OK.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Yeah. That's that's bad. It's probably not good. That indicates to me a sense that like he doesn't really care about. No. No I don't think he does. Yeah. So Alex in this next clip gets back to the New York Times article
Starting point is 01:02:08 and he feels like he should probably address the fact that you know there's accusations that he made up news about Muslim communities. Now he's addressing this immediately after making up news about Muslim countries. I don't know if it's immediately after. But yeah it's after that. OK. It's you know within that space. It's responses.
Starting point is 01:02:32 Great. The New York Times had a fake news story out yesterday. I mean almost all of it was completely made up. The rest of it was disinfo or half truth. I can even show it on screen. You dignify it. You're talking about it. I said that I demanded stories be made up about Muslims.
Starting point is 01:02:50 You understand that in my stack every day are like 30 articles where Muslims are stabbed and shooting murdering raping screaming Allah Akbar. I don't need to have people manufacture news. That is a great totally believable denial there. Manufacture news. I would never. It's it's not good. But it gets worse because Alex now has a conspiracy theory about this article in the New York
Starting point is 01:03:23 Times. That's what I was looking for. And here it goes. OK. I mean you read this stuff and it gives you an idea into the mindset. It literally goes. Jones secretly slaughtered animals. But one of it kept secret.
Starting point is 01:03:35 But he hunted. What. Again imagine you're the writer. You know we even know it's this Elizabeth lady. She even likes her own article says somebody else wrote it. It's this old crazy lady lives like up in a high rise. Doesn't even want to get scared like trees and stuff. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:03:50 And it's like it's like a space alien coming to earth. To write for the New York Times and then and then hearing about hunting and hearing about people go out on a hunt and they got a trailer full of dead animals. That we by the way ate. Alex is not more specific about this conspiracy theory. But he apparently believes that some older woman named Elizabeth wrote the piece in the New York Times and then put his former employee Josh Owens name on it which is wild. How does he know a very small but incredibly specific set of details about Elizabeth lady.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Well doesn't exist. None of them are real. Part of this is probably his way of getting out of having to publicly show that he has no control over his past employees. If he attributes this article to this other person then it's not Josh Owens saying these things and therefore he hasn't broken his NDA so there's nothing Alex can really do about it. It's just the globalist attacking him.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Another element is that Alex probably feels hurt by his former employee betraying him like this. The dude worked at Info Wars for four years so you got to think you know the guy. Alex wouldn't want to show that kind of weakness when it comes to be like the optics of him too mad about it might look weak and I don't think he really wants to show that. So Alex thinks that Elizabeth Williamson wrote this story. She's a writer for the New York Times and she's written many stories about Alex in the past so he's probably pretty fixated on her.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Williams didn't write that story Josh Owens did but that reality is pretty hard to accept so this is the way Alex is deciding to play it which kind of bums me out. One of the ways Alex is using this completely made up narrative that Williamson wrote the article is to say that she's some kind of New York high rise living elite who's never been to the real America where people hunt and they eat meat. Leaving aside that she was born in Chicago went to Marquette which is in Milwaukee and doesn't live in New York. This is just stupid pandering to some kind of folksy notion of Americana.
Starting point is 01:05:49 You can't take with this elite New Yorker who may as well be an alien to real Americans like us seriously you can't take it seriously. That's basically the message. It's also pointless like honestly how many Alex Jones listeners do you think actually read the times like what what kind of an actual threat is this to whatever holding he has. It's nonsense. I mean they probably at least read the headlines so if they're scrolling through whatever news
Starting point is 01:06:16 feed that it is they've got they'll get one headline of Alex Jones as a giant fucking dumb liar. Right but if you're an Alex Jones fan and you see that's posted in the New York Times like you're not going to take it. Yeah you're already done. Yeah it's not there's it's ridiculous that he needs to come up with this this deflection of someone else wrote the story. Also they're a high rise living New York elite who doesn't know what it's like to be out
Starting point is 01:06:41 in a field. Yeah it's it's it's kind of absurd. I you know I would say yeah it's probably more just the personal angle. It's it has nothing to do with what his listeners are going to like or dislike about the New York Times. Everything to do with him just being like I need to create a story for me to make me feel better. Well there's yeah and it feels like whatever is going on is about addressing those concerns
Starting point is 01:07:06 yeah yeah yeah in the same way that you know he's sad he's a sad boy. He doesn't care about conspiracies if he feels like he's in on them and he needs to guard his ego by pretending someone else wrote this story. Yeah it's all about himself. So in service of that like these rich elite New York types they're so different from us they're alien. Yeah Alex descends into like a really weird sort of diatribe yeah about these these high rise living elite sure and I would remind you before we listen to this as a family show
Starting point is 01:07:42 and I'm telling you I've been around these generational rich people folks they don't know anything and more and more people aren't even rich they've just grown up latchkey kids and these high rises and stuff and man they come to Texas and they see you jump up on the back of a horse and they see you jump a fence or something I mean let me tell you you can bring supermodels down from anywhere you go on a horse start jumping over fences with them they're pulling you off that horse trying to have sex with you right there I mean you know they've never been around men ladies and gentlemen I mean they have never seen any of it you know how excited a woman that's never gone out in a in a big field in a big truck farm type
Starting point is 01:08:20 garden I don't know where this is going picked a bunch of picked a bunch of vegetables and put them in there and then the farmhouse and cook them you can't get into the house where the woman's pulled your clothes off because it's so instinctive to be out with the sound of the bugs picking vegetables with a man it's so peaceful the women melt ladies and gentlemen but see all these people that have lived in these cities they literally think I'm a serial killer because I shoot animals at 600 and 800 yards and then I eat them just like I go out in the garden and pick squash and I go in and I cook it and I peel those potatoes so what it's just hat what that's the grossest thing I've had how did he make
Starting point is 01:08:59 peeling potatoes grosser than anything else he said I did seem like there was a grossness that was gross yeah well yeah all these these elite New York high-rise living people they all want to fuck you when they come and see you on a horse it's that's so like crazy that's that's insane I just love it that's where his brain works though it's like these people don't know they people pick vegetables and then they fuck me that gets how it works it gets up so horny gardening is foreplay God that's so stupid and not just that but most of the people who write for the New York Times can't afford anything let alone the people who are New York elites who write for the New York Times probably agree with Alex
Starting point is 01:09:48 more than not it's possible I don't know it's just it's just fun to see the way his brain deals with information but I love that at the end there he's talking about I peel my own potatoes and it gets into like this I do this stuff for myself you know I do it myself kind of thing and I think he thinks he's going to end this list on like a real punch okay but he accidentally says something I think is like in my I hate to use the word Freudian slip but it feels like that okay that's such a weird slip because I think what he's trying to say is I don't have other people right kick ass for hundred percent yes but there's a truth absolutely there's a truth to it as much as he creates
Starting point is 01:10:47 his own problems I do kick my own ass I kick my own ass you globalist at the New York Times trying to destroy me I'll do it for you know I have a problem that needs to be dealt with yeah I heard that I was like oh god damn oh my god I buy my own groceries and I kick my own ass and I'm all out of groceries yeah truest thing he's ever said yeah so Alex goes to break and he comes back and what do you know he continues to not talk about this New York Times story strange even in the New York Times in this big fake piece I'm not going to even dig the fuck I'm talking about something I had to go remember mention of it was true that we were interviewing somebody dying of cancer and I said give him a big check when you go
Starting point is 01:11:36 interview him I feel bad for him and the New York Times said he must have been trying to impress his reporter that he was moral what the hell I give to all sorts of charity and never really talk about it but I had more money more so I funded all sorts of groups and organizations covertly because I won't win this fight but to them they would never write a big check to somebody dying of cancer that we were exposing what had been done to them to be clear in the article Josh Owen says quote once when I went to interview a frequent guest of Jones's I was sent with a check to cover a potentially life-saving cancer treatment Larry Nichols yep during the time frame that Owens work there it's pretty safe to say that there is
Starting point is 01:12:19 only one frequent guest who sounds a lot like that and that is Larry Nichols so that would raise the question of whether or not there was a time during Josh's employment when someone from Info Wars would have been in Arkansas to interview Larry in person the answer to that question is yes in 2015 Alex released the new Clinton Chronicles which is basically just Larry rambling a bunch of bullshit about Hillary being a witch which is it is professionally shot and it was done through Info Wars it was never released as an actual DVD or anything so really it only existed on YouTube that makes it damn near impossible to check down any credits for it as such I can't prove definitively that this was the time when Owens delivered a check to one of
Starting point is 01:13:00 Alex's frequent guests but I'd be very comfortable in assuming that that's the most likely situation yeah so probably that and Alex Alex is like yeah it was just someone who we were interviewing who wanted to help him out but you you evil people would never do something like that now kind of feels more like Alex is paying for Larry's interview exactly and it's it's Josh it's it's lovely that you believed that it was potentially yeah I still it doesn't seem a little naive yeah yeah so anyway Alex continues to not talk but this New York Times story that he won't dignify he won't dignify it it's just when you get into the mindset of the globalist it's so weird it's so bizarre and how they'll always when they write a fake piece they'll you learn
Starting point is 01:13:49 about their psychology by studying them over years they'll always take something from Hollywood and put it in their fake piece as like a tell I guess to other people it's the wolf of Wall Street where somebody grabs somebody's fish out of a fishbowl and eats it I have fish at home I like fish I never grabbed an employee's fish and killed it but see something so over the top well it's gotta be true I mean who would make up Jones walking over and going give me that give me that fish I'm gonna kill it I don't know maybe I have shot turtles I have turtles in a pond in about 300 yards for target practice because they eat the fish that's probably my grandma was like get out there and shoot those turtles they're eating all the bass
Starting point is 01:14:36 out of there I guess I have shot turtles cool so his defenses I've shot turtles didn't kill that goldfish his defenses also maybe I oh I think I killed turtles I think I killed turtles yeah the more important thing in that clip though is him accusing the globalist of using things from movies yeah hey guy a guy who thinks that childhoods and is literally real yeah hey guy I actually that makes me believe it even more that he knows that it's from wolf of Wall Street because that suggests to me that he probably watched or saw wolf of Wall Street close to that event and then decided to do it oh that's interesting that makes the most sense yeah I didn't even consider that that's a possibility I don't know I just think it's funny
Starting point is 01:15:27 when someone whose worldview is almost entirely based on science fiction movies and books accuses the globalists of using always using they always do it yeah and now it's possible that he actually just watches a lot of movies and then applies whatever is in a movie to what is happening yeah you they always put it in there for him to find you you know those people that you'll run into where every joke is like some reference yeah movie yeah I do feel like Alex probably socially would be fairly close to that yeah and maybe acts out things I think he's still I think he still does my wife I think he said I think he still does it no he probably doesn't he hates Borat that's true that's true fair enough he probably
Starting point is 01:16:10 starts with Matt and then he has to stop I probably didn't damn it punches a wall can't do boring anyway Alex is done for now talking about the New York Times story but he hasn't now I mean he has like ten stories a day that he never covers right and so he decides he's going to get to one that he didn't cover and it's about like some sort of a polyamorous relationship okay that was covered in a video I didn't even look into this because I don't really even care it has to do with like a woman who's with four men or something and okay Alex is real judgy about this and I'd like to point out that he thinks he's a libertarian yeah I got this video I didn't get to that they're glorifying on the news of a polyamorous couple
Starting point is 01:16:56 four men and a woman and I use the term men lightly and it's all this woman is their mommy is what the what it is and then they just want to keep living with their mommy and she treats them all like they're her twelve-year-old sons and this is as close to nightmare as it can be and of course you know it's not going to go well now she's pregnant with one of the boys sons and this is what the collapse of civilization looks like you know she's really going to protect them from the army horde that comes over the hill but this is what our friendly nice society not giving people guidelines to at least hey maybe follow has created hey guy you want guidelines yeah what else would you use what word would you use to also consider guidelines that the
Starting point is 01:17:44 government gives you I don't know I'm going to call it regulation Dan you want sort of like enforced relationship structures I'm pretty sure that he does yes I don't I mean like it's hard to say that that's exactly what he's advocating but it isn't outside the possible now absolutely but I think what he's more interested in than government doing it is society enforcing it themselves right like people in these sorts of relationships being like marginalized to the extent where they're not welcome yeah like scarlet letter type shit yeah like that's the kind of thing and I'm that's not libertarian at all that's not like I would say mind you're supposed to mind your own business who gives a shit if this who first of all who gives a shit if this woman is dating four
Starting point is 01:18:30 dudes or together with four dudes who cares everybody second of all who gives a shit if she's pregnant by one of them everybody who cares let them be hey Alex Alex can be like hey you know you know it's not going to work out yeah why do you care this is literally every time he even mentions gay people he always follows up with and I don't care what you do in bed you can be you can be with anybody that you want you cannot be with more than one person though he that is where I draw the line he very clearly does care oh absolutely it's very bizarre 100 million percent but Jordan you're wrong I knew that it's not about multiple people being with one person no it's not no it's about multiple men being with one woman fuck you fuck you that
Starting point is 01:19:17 might be do not tell me that's what it might be how dare you so what god damn it decide they want to be men or not you know if you want to get down to real primitive levels it's not manly it's not cool it's not avant-garde to have four dudes with one check okay one thing if you're confident enough and I'm not saying this is good it usually breaks up relationships hey your buddy your wife's hot mind's hot let's do that that's that's a good one once a year on a certain full moon everybody swap each other's wives do it share the genetics here a little bit that's them that's a manly thing to do to get your blood up and go to an origin have sex with other people it's not manly to sit there and sit there take turns with your domesticated
Starting point is 01:20:04 stupid so-called mother ship and it's what the collapse of civilization absolutely looks like there's a family show Jordan not manly to do this but it is manly to go fuck each other's wives furthermore if you've ever read the book sex at dawn that is actually what the beginning of civilization looks like yeah point is it's not manly to be in a situation where there's one woman and four dudes he is so threatened yeah so pathetic very such a weak will lose it's very revealing yeah because the it's still the way he's talking about it is like it's manly to go to an orgy yeah like that but it's not manly to share even the way it's being framed in the terms of manliness and manliness is what needs to be retained
Starting point is 01:20:53 is it's very messed up I'm always amazed at how manliness is maybe the most fragile thing in the world it's to these guys whatever it is it's very it's very threatened by this potential polyamorous couple that he's heard about that have nothing to do with his life at all nothing is manlier than being terrified at every moment that people will find out you're not a man I mean what if those people are happy in that sort of arrangement why the fuck do you care because because it could be the end of civilization Dan even if that's why even if they have an arrangement that involves like some sort of a maternal dynamic between them who gives a shit can't allow for that Dan who cares a one woman and four children
Starting point is 01:21:43 that's against the rules Dan so crazy any consensual relationship that I don't approve of should be ended family show absolutely gotta go fuck each other's got to go fuck each other's was just the best I just Alex's brain is so fascinating his lines like the question where do you draw the line for so many people is relatively simple they can draw the line in many different places very quickly for Alex the line is zigzagging it's upside down and then at certain points it's parallel but also never time no clarity no consistency just fucking need jerking oh yeah just whatever the fuck makes me feel weird it's gotta go this day yeah because it'll change tomorrow yeah so we get back to this story about people
Starting point is 01:22:30 experiencing homelessness and like I said when Alex go from wipe swapping to now let's get back to homelessness gotcha okay well because what happens is Alex as an interview with former MLB player Aubrey Huff because Aubrey Huff posted a video where he was or I guess it was maybe a picture where he was out at a shooting range with his kids and he said I got to teach them how to use a gun in case Bernie wins wait Aubrey Huff San Francisco Giants yeah even your magic Aubrey Aubrey Huff that's the one why what he's a gun guy anyway right oh no by the way most baseball players are gun guys they're all fucking insane what about Brian Wilson yes yeah sure so look he's on interviews whatever it is she cares in the middle of
Starting point is 01:23:17 that Alex gets a call from a woman in Florida who claims to work in the homeless population and she has also heard of somebody getting a chip and so this turns Alex into like going deep in that direction now Alex has already revealed that on Tuesday he's going to break his big news yeah this bombshell that'll destroy the globalists and in this clip Alex reveals what his plan is oh god this made me like over the moon like just I was so excited okay I thought you know how to come on today cover all this give all show bunch of stuff and then open phones up because I bet it's happening in other areas to get more contacts and then people can actually videotape and the big one's going to be cutting the chip out of somebody's
Starting point is 01:24:00 arm at a doctor's office because no one will care if I show the facility that admitting they're doing it people are going to want to see that chip come out and we're having to get involved with HIPAA forms and everything else right now okay but that's what we're going for is the chip being cut out on TV with a doctor here next week okay because like PT Barnum said man and so does Shakespeare the whole world's a stage Bill Shakespeare wow so real quick PT Barnum didn't say all the world's a stage that was Shakespeare that was originally Shakespeare and still not PT Barnum PT Barnum I believe his quote was all presses good press that kind of something along those lines yeah
Starting point is 01:24:35 however Alex what he does is so much closer to Barnum shit so it makes sense that's where his mind would go like getting someone in studio to cut a chip out of them is absolutely carny shit and as I was listening to that my first reaction was amazement that Alex announced that he was planning to do that which very quickly became a certainty that this was never going to happen yeah I feel like this is Thomas Edison plug in electrocuting an elephant level shit but at the last minute he backs out being like I can't kill an elephant right terrified this is I mean sure if you want a publicity stunt maybe this is the way to go but so what's going on here like I said is this woman called in from Florida she claims
Starting point is 01:25:16 to have 30 years experience working with people experiencing homelessness sure although she's not specific about what any of this experience is she mentions that she works for a nonprofit but I don't it's weird it's a white van only nonprofit and I don't know what she's doing out there it's very vague anyway she meets a couple who then disappear for six to eight weeks when she meets back up with the dude from this couple it turns out that he was arrested for trespassing and in the process of being booked he's offered to be part of a program where people who experience homelessness would be given implantable chips that would contain all of their relevant medical records identification etc anyway we talked about this on a past
Starting point is 01:25:54 episode and it makes a lot of sense for people who are living with housing vulnerability to explore that kind of an option they often have no secure place to keep important documents and that can be the difference between progressing towards stability and being trapped in a never-ending cycle of consistently having to get new copies of necessary documents which really gums up the work of financial burden absolutely physical burden it's everything yeah anyway this woman calls in it's completely freaking Alex out because he hasn't even broken his big news that he was planning to break on Tuesday but that's ridiculous because I've already heard him talk about this back in October and even at that point that wasn't news other
Starting point is 01:26:30 mainstream media outlets have been discussing this proposal for months even a year before Alex even caught wind of it the bottom line is what they're talking about has this kernel of truth to it and as much as there is a plan that's being discussed and being worked on it's all bullshit when it's being combined with this FEMA camp fantasy and all the globalist nonsense though which Alex is doing I should also say that I don't find this caller to be someone who strikes me as being a good source here's a clip of her talking to Alex that I think is full of red flags can you imagine being a liberal for 30 years okay being a liberal for 30 years and then
Starting point is 01:27:08 having one of your homeless say to you hello somebody's trying to microchip me and then I'm listening to Alex Jones because I want to be you know like I want to be enlightened you know like I want to learn and and I'm having there's only four ways on is this right is this wrong and then I have it hit me right in the face and yeah there it is Kelly what are you going to do now so in that clip this person who claims to have 30 years experience in the field refers to these people as my homeless she's using a possessive descriptor which I think seems really weird and kind of gross it doesn't make a lot of sense yeah they at very least it's an indication that she has a pretty weird view of the work that
Starting point is 01:27:53 she's doing 30 years a liberal 30 years a liberal and then one of my homeless say they got microchipped and I was listening to Alex Jones which all three of those make perfect sense in the same sentence I mean like the that's so glaring the idea that she's claiming to be a liberal who decided to listen to Alex Jones in the year of our Lord 2019 yeah search for enlightenment where you have to really go find Alex you can't just YouTube him looking for enlightenment that's just not something that happens like either the liberal past that she's describing as being manufactured to give her story more credibility yeah like as if to say you know like you could take it from me I was part of a group that hates
Starting point is 01:28:36 you and even I think you're right yeah or she's just delusional you just can't have it you know there's no kind of liberal principles you can hold and then you tune into info or isn't think hey these people are really swinging yeah yeah it's bullshit it's totally possible that she's a real caller but this is the closest I've come to thinking the caller was an actor yeah this sounds this sounds like a plan it's just a really hard to swallow these elements of her story that you know I just don't I mean it's possible it's entirely possible these are things that could exist in someone's brain like she could have perceived herself to be liberal yeah and and it just been a completely inaccurate discreet right
Starting point is 01:29:16 right possible but I just I have a tough time although it works too well towards justifying Alex's narrative fitting his narrative exactly yeah yeah it's it's almost too much but again it's not impossible that some listener would be exactly what Alex needs right and he could take that call right that is possible the absolutely odds are thin but it's possible I would I thought before you even played this that we were leaning more towards a situation where it's it's like the letters that the veterans get and the guys like well I haven't gotten one but I haven't checked the mail recently or the other guys like I heard someone got one I thought that she was gonna be like I worked with the homeless and what I heard that
Starting point is 01:30:02 somebody kind of did she heard from right she's talking about he's he's got he'd like showed it to her like no he didn't he didn't get it yeah oh he didn't know he got an offer to get this as opposed to like doing 60 days in jail for the trespassing yeah like it almost like drug court like it's an option that you can take being involved in this program and I don't know if that's true yeah that's just what she's saying yeah and so like yeah so it's still even second hand to her well yeah so a lot of this is being driven by a video that made the rounds at the end of November beginning of December area was posted on YouTube by a channel called beard brand in the video barber is giving a nice haircut and beard trim to a man
Starting point is 01:30:46 living with homelessness who apparently had helped the shop out with some cleaning like the windows and stuff the video itself is meant to be a heartwarming thing where you see the difference that little things like a haircut or the human interaction with the barber can have you know it is really you know kind of moving to see like the end of the like how much like how much different this guy appears at the beginning like Haggard and kind of like disheveled and then he gets this all like a really great haircut you can see his face lighting up more it's nice so at the beginning of the video the getting the haircut says that there's a plan he heard about trying to put a device on people to house their important documents and he's even
Starting point is 01:31:30 expressing it as like this is not a bad idea so naturally Alex sees this as an accidental slip up admission of the grand conspiracy proof in plain sight there's nothing secret and a farious about the my past program that's being discussed in Austin shits been really public and I can find articles going back to at least April of last year covering the launch of the plan and how they were working with the people and with blockchain technology in order to try and navigate some of the larger data privacy issues that's something like this would bring up right we talked about this on a past episode so I don't want to belabor it but it's worth recognizing that this is a real thing that's being lied about and the real world function of what Alex is fighting against is the
Starting point is 01:32:10 development of a program that could give people experiencing homelessness greater access to the tools they need to manage their lives like they're the victims of of his narratives well he doesn't want any problems to be solved because then he wouldn't be able to yell about that problem anymore sure you know Alex covered this story weeks ago as if it was breaking news even though it'd been public and covered for over a year by other publications but then he let it drop that was good enough for him just to touch on the story to come back to it if you need it but I think he knew there was no legs to the story and it is what it was but then this beard brand video came out and it went really viral it raked in millions of views with it currently being at about six point five million
Starting point is 01:32:50 on YouTube there's a clear demonstration that the public was interested in this story so Alex reprioritized it I can't see any other reason for his increased focus on this narrative there's no other news other than what he'd already lied about back in October and nothing that the man in the beard brand video said adds anything more to the story yeah all that happened was there was a video that got millions of views and Alex realized that maybe this would be a story he could take ownership of and get some of that attention for himself from his perspective that makes total sense like in the state he's in he no longer has access to the means of guiding the conspiracy world's attention since much of it lives outside of places where he can exert his influence he's less relevant to the
Starting point is 01:33:33 larger world than Facebook hoaxes so what he has to do is base his content on chasing topics that resonate with the consumers of things like Facebook hoaxes you can see it with the white van narrative you can see it further with this microchipping bullshit like he is just chasing down whatever scraps and trying to build it into something yeah so that's all here there's a viral video of a guy getting a haircut that mentions this program it's been publicly discussed and isn't a secret to anybody and Alex is turning it into I'm going to cut a chip out of somebody on Tuesday that's crazy yeah that is absolutely nuts yeah but it's overwhelming to Alex and you just can't handle it and I can't process this much stuff at this point that's true because I've got about let's not exaggerate like ten giant stories that
Starting point is 01:34:32 we're trying to deal with seven of them are completely confirmed and they're all earth shaking and four of them are the same story what does that mean I've got ten stories seven are confirmed four of the same story I have no idea is this a riddle is this like what has two legs and what has one leg in the morning two legs at night and four legs at dinner time or something the doctor is the mother ah there we go yeah but I am the great to know so Alex like he has these ten stories he doesn't say what they are he has four of them are the same are they of the seven or are we actually dealing with eleven stories that are actually eight stories who knows doesn't matter none of its real but then Alex has a little bit of a breakdown if the deep state was going to try to have an economic implosion and martial law which
Starting point is 01:35:34 they admit they want and a civil war a controlled civil war out of which America will never come back imagine the planning and the money and the infrastructure that will go into that and then imagine the cover stories for the different pieces of the program and I have reverse engineered the whole damn thing sure and I can hold it in my brain and I could write out the basic skeleton of it on even maybe twenty pieces of paper double spaced handwritten and here's the thing it's 100% confirmed at this point it's not like I'm looking at something and connecting dots this thing is crystal HD this is such classic con man shit like Alex is sitting here and going on about how he's figured out the entire globalist plan and he can hold it in his head and maybe write it out in twenty pages but he can't seem to just explain it in clear concise language that doesn't end up
Starting point is 01:36:42 turning into a pointless rant of time filler about the devil if Alex indeed does have this entire globalist plan figured out then he has a responsibility to put it out for the people if he can write it out the skeleton in twenty pages he needs to sit his ass down and write it out getting through that twenty pages he shouldn't take more than half of one of his daily shows he writes it all out like teach a class dick there's literally no excuse for him not to do that just take one day who cares the world keeps on moving you'll miss your ability to rant about Putin saying mothers are being outlawed take that day do your business get down to business get really specific cite things clearly don't go off into pointless rants about nothing in the devil just lay out the picture that you claim to see so crystal clearly
Starting point is 01:37:31 and everything's proven it's not going to do that it's all bullshit he's just talking shit like this is this is this is abusive you're getting gaslit yes this is such a crock of shit clips like that really kind of like make me like I mean I'm amused by it right in a in a low thing kind of way yeah because it is just that like I am the oracle yeah but the oracle cannot tell you his ways whoa whoa whoa whoa do not look behind the curtain my friend it's it's this I'm not just some lunatic connecting dots I'm telling you that because they used hotels in one place then the fact that they use hotels other places means that it's the same people it's this sense of like okay so what I what I'm what I'm telling you is I figured everything out it's all perfectly proving everything is crystal cool what so what's going on I look I can't I can't I can't commit to you know what
Starting point is 01:38:24 slow it down just take your time to think through it I've got 20 empty pages for you to write on I would love to do that typewriter handwritten I would love look I'd love cursive would even work I would love to do that but it's that but it's just it's too much to even really tell you so what I can 21 pages that now we're now what I can do it because I can hold it all in my head sure right so what I can do is I can have you tell me a headline and then I can tell you what it means okay I like that it's not a parlor trick that is nice that is nice yeah okay could you also talk to my dead grandmother no but I know a guy okay good he puts a different hat on yeah I can speak to your dead grandmother I am Balak's Jones soothsayer yeah I mean that's all that's going on though really is just like the making a rationalization for why he's not yeah doing the thing that his show is
Starting point is 01:39:23 supposed to be is like I can hold it all in my head and that's why I just end up riffing about all this stuff whatever I could give you all the information but how about you give me the information and I'll move some blocks around and I'll give you different information instead of teaching a class I would rather do an improv show yeah yeah that's all that is yeah pretty much so Alex now lays out the plan about like how this all fits together you know because he said that like they're gonna take out Trump and then that's going to lead to the collapse or whatever share but he's also said they're microchipping the people experiencing homelessness because there's something there it seems very disconnected I don't really understand how it all tells man I understand how it all works together but in this clip he tries to bring it all under the umbrella and I would say this needs a rewrite okay this is the takeover they are
Starting point is 01:40:18 intending to remove Trump one way or another step one and then they're going to trigger a civil war saying right wingers blew stuff up when Trump gets removed they're going to truck bomb and mass shoot and say we did it when they remove Trump use that for a total clamp down the economy is going to implode and then there's going to be homeless running around crazy everywhere what all they got to do is have the Chinese who supply 90% of the opiates cut those off for about a month step four and it's going to look like a zombie apocalypse they've got un vehicles hundreds of NGOs running around getting emergency centers ready the cover story is it's for the homeless explosion they've got microchipping ready they call them reeducation camps it's in the Obama army manual from 2014 so we talked about that already so Alex is basically laid out how this microchipping the homeless
Starting point is 01:41:17 population plays into the globalist plan sure again I have to stress that none of this is in his film endgame which is another version of a totally proven crystal clear vision to what the globalist plan for their endgame all this stuff about the Chinese cutting off the fentanyl okay but they're a decade behind so when he made the endgame he didn't realize that they were going to have to update their stuff as you know it's like it's like a playstation update whatever you got to just download it it takes a four or five hours but you just live through it so trump gets removed then we end up in a situation where right wing extremists pull off more attacks but naturally these are false flags of course like all the other ones have been right wingers never commit violence along with this a civil war will break out the economy will explode at that point the Chinese could cut off the opiate supply
Starting point is 01:42:07 which will make the homeless population turn into a walking sea of zombies sure and then all the old school Alex Jones FEMA camp fantasies finally come into fruition right honestly I think that the element of this narrative involving homelessness is kind of superfluous to the larger plot I don't understand once a civil war breaks out I really don't think the government will need any other excuse to enact a form of martial law I don't know how people going through open I mean which government is my question Dan I don't know how people going through opiate withdrawals is going to like raise the stakes from a civil war if this were a screenplay and I was giving notes I would say take that part out it just over complicates things it would make me think that I was talking to a writer who maybe it was trying too hard to jam two plots together maybe yeah maybe kind of just doesn't make sense or a Russian novelist
Starting point is 01:42:58 also Alex is just making up that statistic that 90% of opiates come from China he may be spiritually right that a majority of fentanyl comes from China but that's not the totality of the opiate crisis and you know you know he's not taking into account that people who have used fentanyl also probably use other opiates you know it's not like fentanyl disappears and then addicts wouldn't just say like I can't use heroin yeah well I mean it's it's just not as good it's just not a good enough I understand the fentanyl is way stronger you know whatever but it doesn't who cares once you go once you go with fentanyl man you can't go back this is all just completely disconnected from reality like even more so than normal for Alex it's lazy and sloppy although I will say it does feel a lot more like Alex's old work than his current work that's true that's true there are these elements of it that are much more about the like because the FEMA camp stuff was
Starting point is 01:43:53 so central to like the older days oh yeah and having a lot of that like really reemerge as like there's this over complicated scenario that is going to take place if Alex isn't successful right and then it all leads to the predetermined destination of Alex being dragged off to a camp yeah it is much more reminiscent of that but the problem is that he's been goofing off and do dumb Trump bullshit for the last four years so those muscles are not as good as they used to be right good at doing that anymore right I'm leaving in this unnecessary homeless population plot that has nothing to do with anything I mean it's he's still got a monster of the week you know he's still got to have a monster of the monster of the monster of the week he can't just because he has a overarching storyline doesn't mean that you still don't have to fight the the gray man every now and again right but sometimes that gray man trying to make him connected to the over arching plot
Starting point is 01:44:47 is not necessary right right anyway I think you avoided the FEMA camps for a long time because Trump was literally doing all of that stuff yeah that so he wanted to avoid the that did probably put a wrench in him focusing too much on that and but it's weird because it's sort of bubbling back up at the same time that he said Trump's committing treason and then a couple days later said I'm a hundred percent on board hundred percent on board so it's weird anyway I mean well I mean Stevie P's committed treason on the show too so it's like who's treason is off all bets yeah it's again I mean it's it's value neutral yeah yeah in terms of Alex's world so much like Steve we have another returning guest here today although we have seen him in the not too distant past but another person who is from Alex's salad days who is now coming back into the fold and he might have gotten a check so Larry Nichols green beret and then a sign with the CIA
Starting point is 01:45:49 and the Clintons with the Rockefeller Foundation others help get the Clinton's in office and help handle them he couldn't stand the cocaine being shipped in when the Clinton started killing even neighborhood kids that saw the cocaine famous cases of those so he found Jesus while his dad was down in cancer this is just the backstory of it and he found Christ and repented and has been fighting him ever since he's been a great source of info Larry Nichols and of course he famously exposed you know Hillary's bisexual activities famous hours turning denied and I want to get into that a little bit later with him next segment but Larry as best as I can tell none of that was true zero percent of that was true as an introduction and I mean the most like offensive part was Larry has been a good source of information yeah yeah that's the most flagrant line this this I'm introducing a man who famously got everything wrong for decades which is an accomplishment yeah in and of
Starting point is 01:46:46 itself so Larry is on it's kind of boring especially compared to the last time when he was saying that Adam Schiff isn't where is Egyptian garb yeah goes to ritual sacrifice and he didn't even try and blackmail Congress no but at least on his last appearance when he returned from his long absence at least there was some juice to it yeah this time it's more just like well we're up against the wall things are bad sure things are bad Alex okay it's very standard boring info wars guest but because they're talking about this and like how bad things are for their patriot community or whatever sure Alex gets back into that headspace of like I think it's time to start killing people and damn it and Larry's response is really interesting so what do you do when you're facing an unlawful rogue government he's got to go to the people and prepare to go with the people in the US military we're gonna have to remove the deep state which is a
Starting point is 01:47:45 rogue coup I mean we've come to that point they want to have an illegal bureaucratic coup we need the president to call up the damn military and I'm ready for it let's go well there's a to me to be honest Alex the one thing we've got left on the face of their say this country we've got one and that is November 20 or November 2020 the election see Alex is being what the fuck just happened there Dan Nichols is being a voice of reason how dare you how dare you Alex is being like we need Trump to get the fucking military to clean out our enemies and the government kill millions of people maybe not maybe what I mean it would escalate yeah but what he's saying is we need Trump to use the military to unseat people that we deem to be part of this globalist coup right which is bad obviously right and Larry's like nah man we got we got an election coming we gotta focus on this election like hold on one second we need to focus on the peaceful
Starting point is 01:48:44 transition of power in this country don't we let's let's hold up until the election happens before we say murder millions of people yeah but man if millions of people die it's just globalists so Alex doesn't care about that that's fair and I don't want this to happen because the globalists are worthless trash so they millions of them get wiped out in the fight with us I don't feel good about that that's like when I got a smash cockroach as I find behind the refrigerator I just get it done as fast as possible and don't really look at it and throw them in the trash can you know drive the bulldozer and push the bodies into the grave I mean we're not looking forward to this because these people are going to be stacked up to the damn top of the top of the top of the clouds and and they're really asking for it and and I'm not going to do anything offensive but I can tell you they're going to blow stuff up and blame it on us it's common like the sun came up this morning
Starting point is 01:49:35 Larry I'm ranting if you want to join me to martyr that special broadcast for an hour of your welcome or so I mean if Alex is saying a million globalists are going to die yeah then this isn't the same conspiracy he's always been talking about because I believe he said there's sixty thousand globalists in the past yeah I don't think that you could take the people who are in these bureaucratic positions and add them up to a million like whatever he's talking about is slaughter it is a massive and he's already said like all these Democrats are all globalists now they're all Satan worshipers and the I mean like this is a this is a horrifying thing that he's suggesting happen yeah cool and it's exactly it's so much like the fucking it's just like whoa whoa we can all have an orgy here but if three or four dudes with the same woman that this that defies manliness and all must die it's the same shit is just like oh the government is doing something that
Starting point is 01:50:39 I don't like I guess so let's kill millions of people uh-huh great so I should also say that Alex one of his main things that he talks about all the time is that the globalists are trying to destroy the family and like the family is the most important unit right so mother four fathers two kids perfect family this next clip sounded very strange to me for someone who loves families so much and I don't normally talk like this but this is war people's families need to disown these congressmen people's wives need to leave them you know the left tries to bully us to submit to them and this isn't bullying they're assaulting us people need to get really aggressive within legal means against these libtards and these on the fence Republicans absolutely and you gotta let them know that we're sitting in their butts home you do the wrong thing Trump may lose but they're going home they fear losing their job more than they want to get trump out trust me so Alex is
Starting point is 01:51:39 saying that if you don't support Trump your family should be destroyed which is like okay cool so in the last clip he says I don't want to do anything offensive and in the next clip he says we're at war and we should all take offensive measures well because we're under assault I mean it is incoherent but it's intentionally so yeah he doesn't want to have us in the same way that he's like I understand crystal clear all the things the globalist are doing but I won't sit down and just fucking teach a class on it it's the same thing he wants you to be like we're in a war we're being attacked I won't do anything offensively but giving every justification for why whatever you might do is actually defensive and you probably didn't do it anyway with the globalist false flag and trying to make us look bad same thing try and keep people in this weird state where they you don't know what he's saying yeah but what Larry is saying is the same thing he's always been saying
Starting point is 01:52:31 which is that these people in Congress are too cowardly to do anything because they need to keep their jobs because when the trouble starts they become dukes and duchesses right that is true he still thinks that he can't possibly still think he does oh god the president becomes king okay or queen all right and everyone in Congress is dukes and duchess okay so then in that case the Congress people would be super for this happening because then there it's just an able thing it's just the king and them dukes and duchesses right and when you get there if you got a lot of dukes and duchesses well somebody's going to overthrow that fucking king that's just going to happen you'd think yeah but the king has the Praetorian guard oh shit I forgot about that and they're coming for Caesar to he's back for season two yeah so now it wouldn't be a Larry Nichols appearance on the show if something completely absurd
Starting point is 01:53:26 wasn't said by him and we get that here you have got to engage or it's over it's over I'm not blowing this out of proportion Alex isn't blowing it out of proportion I got Alex there's 250,000 UN troops sitting in Cuba that can be here in six hours why are they there why are they there why are they there Alex I have literally no idea where Larry is getting this 250,000 UN troops being in Cuba thing from it's like 1% of the population of Cuba UN troops it would be more than that I think the population of Cuba is like 11 million I think yeah so 250,000 will be like 3% probably yeah yeah I mean man it would be like taking up a lot of space it would be like half of the population of the second largest city in Cuba it's absurd to imagine but what are they doing there dude according to the UN there are 11 UN police officers or experts on the missions in Cuba where they're stationed as part of peacekeeping missions I don't know does the UN even have 250,000 troops period
Starting point is 01:54:40 we'll get to that actually I misspoke there were 11 back in 2017 but now they're only six okay well if Larry wanted to like have a higher number on our border than he should have gone with Mexico but even there there's only 30 the UN does not have troops in the way that Larry is making the audience think they have peacekeeping forces that are stationed in countries around the world with more being in countries that have greater unrest and less in relatively stable countries a lot of what they're there for is monitoring not actually engaging and they're there also to assist the country's existing power structures currently there aren't even 250,000 UN peacekeeping troops in the entire world there we go not even half of that there's the current latest tally is just over 100,000 they're spread out everywhere and about 14,000 of them are not even uniformed individuals just civilians yeah I tried to look up where this information was coming from and the only other place I could find it reported was a YouTube show
Starting point is 01:55:42 called the common sense show which is hosted by a guy sitting at a desk and he has an American flag there and a cactus and his name is Harry Lickles don't know why he's got a cactus but definitely has a cactus alright so he's interviewing a guy named Paul Martin who tells him without citing any source that there's 250,000 UN troops in Cuba the host decides that the most likely reason they're there is they're planning a jailbreak to free the terrorists being held in Guantanamo I don't think you need 250,000 to break into Guantanamo I'm sure he imagines that it's like a full prison with an entire army in it but he must be forgetting that Obama kept trying to close the detention center and that led to there only being 40 people there currently and honestly if these imaginary UN troops are planning anything I would say finishing the job of shutting down Guantanamo which Trump has refused to do that's not the worst thing they could do No I'm fine with that also I feel like you could probably do a successful jailbreak there with like 10 guys and montage
Starting point is 01:56:44 You don't need 250,000 I have no idea who Paul Martin is I have no idea who the host of this show is or why he has a cactus on his desk but I heard this show and I thought well this must be where Larry is getting his info from it's complete bullshit but his version matches up exactly with what's being discussed on the show then I listened a little bit longer and they make clear that their source for this information is Larry it's a circle time is a flat circle yeah time is a flat circle they treat him as a credible source but the host does ask quote did he say where he got this information from to which Paul Martin replies no he did not but he knows a lot of people he knows exactly 250,000 people this is a classic Larry Nichols trick he cross pollinates in right wing media he sows stories in various places coming through various mouthpieces to create the illusion of a reality behind his stories there's not 250,000 UN troops in Cuba but you'll see the story being reported in multiple dumb dumb right wing media outlets because he made it up and told all of them
Starting point is 01:57:52 he comes from the days of like the old school when you'd plant stories in different like tabloids absolutely and that helps to reinforce what you put in this one is backed by this one right he comes from the 90s of propaganda he's doing that but it's so easy to trace now anyway this is kind of how I know all these people are fucking liars and they know it Larry Nichols has been wrong about pretty much everything he's ever said he's been a terrible repeatedly discredited source for information since the 90s to the present day he said Obama was going to suspend the 2016 election so he could remain president then declare America a Muslim nation to make himself the king of Islam and he was being abetted by Congress because they'd all get to become dukes and duchesses when he made his move right and yet every time he comes out with some completely unsourced clearly made up bullshit these hosts eat it up and treat him like he's got a hall of fame batting average they know what they're doing they know he's full of shit but they just like the kind of shit he slings so to sum this up this is all not true
Starting point is 01:58:54 and it's just another hoax that Larry has come up with because he's a bored psychopath yeah that sounds about right yeah God can you even can you imagine if the UN even had 250,000 troops people would lose their shit well it's interesting like they have proposed that in the past right and actually 250,000 was a number that was suggested in the past when they have tried to make these these moves but it's never happened no because people would lose their shit right but the fact that it's been suggested is what Larry can fall back on when he's trying to substantiate his claim sure like oh you think they didn't actually make it sure that that all right they secretly did it fine whatever yeah so I mean that that would be where he falls back to if pushed on it and I think that that's the reason that he uses the number 250,000 well when when we talk to him I believe what he would fall back on is you can believe what you want to believe and I'll believe what I want to believe in that is probably also yeah accurate so here's how Alex ends the show and I think it's a bit grim and I can tell you the people in Kauai the people in areas of the Pacific of the people in places like Tasmania these are the people like the globalists who have fled to their redouts yeah New Zealand where they were supposed to already have their robot fortresses automated security so they don't need security that's BS you know the guy that comes to do maintenance on their underground bunker is going to dump chlorine bleach down it
Starting point is 02:00:23 and I'm not happy by any of this but all these globalists are dead they're all dead in doornails as soon as this kicks off and then we're going to hunt down the ones that are left in their rat holes by we the people that are left I mean they are dead they are dead dead dead if they try any of this if they don't back off 100% then it's all over their only hope is to surrender now God bless you sorry the other callers I promise you tomorrow I'll be live that's I mean it's just becoming kind of standard for him to make these like you're all dead if you don't back off kind of it's much more consistent it's pretty it's pretty regular and it doesn't it doesn't feel good hey don't make me kill you I don't want to do it I don't feel good about murdering you it'd be terrible but I have to murder you because you're doing something that I imagine is real even though it's not well not you're going to not me but people I talk to who have killed yeah hey but hold on they wouldn't ever use them because all right wing I'll right wing murders are false fly right there is that to yeah and I'm sure that you know let's say some globalist redoubt is flooded with chlorine false like absolutely yeah absolutely is where does this fit in with his pre post trip rapture thoughts unclear the end of all human life including the globalists who caused the human life is that part of the trip probably okay so Alex very heavily promoted on this December 6th episode that he was going to break this big news about the micro chipping of the homeless population and he was planning to have a surgery where they'd remove one from a person on air so obviously I had to check out the show from hell yeah you cannot not do that no it would be irresponsible of you it might surprise you to learn that Alex never got to that big scoop I don't understand he totally could have he spent almost the entire show on the 10th taking calls
Starting point is 02:02:16 what he was saying he was going to do was a very high preparation presentation and what he delivered with something that requires literally no preparation what a surprise I generally just listen to these episodes since watching Alex really annoys me now his facial gestures alternate between the smug condescension and completely tragic deflation and I find it really uncomfortable to watch adding to that the way he just can't sit still and it's just visually unpleasant thing to watch so I usually just listen however I'm glad I tuned into this show on video because it's Christmas season so he's updated the big video backdrop screens behind him the one to his left is a big fireplace which is very quaint I think the one that's directly behind him misses the mark a little bit though it's just a Santa hanging from a news that would be on brand it's a nighttime shot of a snow capped mountaintop with a constant trickle of snow slowly falling very very serene but when it's juxtaposed with Alex wiggling around desperately trying to lie while his face is just screaming defeat it looks like he's freezing to death he's got the fireplace right there he's trying to survive well the serenity of it is juxtaposed with a mad desperation yeah it's just very bizarre there's a stretch on when these shows where Alex is trying to claim that the media was reporting that Owen shroyer had yelled about lynching Obama when he disrupted the impeachment hearing when it's very clear that they were reporting that he disrupted the impeachment hearing and had previously on air said quote he belongs in guantanamo bay I mean look I'm not saying this should happen but Barack Obama you know find the tallest tree in a rope like it would be pointless to put him in guantanamo bay we already know there's 250 un troops that just bust him out yeah they were that's what they're that's what they're waiting for essentially so Alex is trying to like pretend that media is saying that he said these things about Obama when he disrupted yeah when it's clear that's that's bullshit yeah Alex's face as he's trying to thread this needle is really sad you can see the recognition in his face that there's tape of Owen shroyer saying those things you can see him being fully aware that if any of his listeners actually read the articles he's citing and like vanity fairer salon they'll see that Alex is lying about what they're claiming about
Starting point is 02:04:37 the proceedings you can see him flailing you can see in his eyes that the gears are moving but they're fully aware that it doesn't matter if the gears move he's spinning plates for no reason and the soft falling snow behind him makes the tableau more profoundly depressing and there's you know that's not even saying anything about how bad the optics are when he's rambling about how you should buy his dumb pills because shopping anywhere else is giving money to Satan while the snow slowly falls it's very weird so he doesn't get to his big story because there is no big story I went back and checked his Saturday Sunday and Monday shows to be sure and no no inch in studio surgeries no big bombshells all just hype for nothing on the 6th Alex was saying that they had everything confirmed they had all the footage they had the interviews they had the documents he set a date for the breaking of this big story and that date came in it fucking went he had five days to smooth out the edges which seemed like it was just a matter as he was saying of filling out hippo forms that doesn't take long it couldn't be more obvious what happened here Alex thought this kind of a publicity stunt was going to be a good option for him to get attention but then Owen shroyer disrupted the impeachment inquiry which was a way more potent option for free press so he just ran with that and completely forgot that he promised a big reveal this bombshell that would bring down the fucking globalists or I don't know maybe he had to push it back because he couldn't get that hippo form sorted out we're recording this on Wednesday so I have no idea if he finally took down the globalists on Wednesday's show one day late I guess we'll have to see yeah the note that I want to leave things on here is this it's been a long time since I've watched Alex's show and he absolutely doesn't look the same as I remember
Starting point is 02:06:18 it's not about his beard or the weight fluctuations that happen in fact I would say he looks slimmer than I remember but he looks crushed even when he's ranting about winning his eyes are hollow and flat his facial gestures come off contrived and he's constantly looking at the clock so he knows how long he has until he needs to dismount from his current nonsense so we'll have time to get an add in before the commercial breaks his anger reads more like frustration now his rants about the evil globalists taking trying to take him down now seem more sincere but only when he's yelling about how he has to take the trash out you know like around the office yeah yeah yeah you know there's there's frustration that's real that's it's just adding the visual component is unfortunate yeah there's one thing that stuck out to me the most in these other days of shows was from his Sunday show where he's responding to the part in Josh Owens article where he says that Alex called him and said that he wants to quit I'm the opposite of wanting to quit doing the show I wanted to give up I may have to quit just because I can't handle caring this much
Starting point is 02:07:26 and I see everything now and and I'm just reaching a point where I just can't do it every little point every article I think of a thousand other articles every lie they put out I can pull up a whole system of their lies and know how they sat around a think tank and how they cooked up the decision and then years later I'll be reading some white paper government report and hear about a committee meeting and they say exactly what I envisioned word for word in the meetings I knew was going on I mean I've studied them so much and how evil they are that I'm inside their head and they're inside mine I can't stand it that's just fucking absurd wow Alex hasn't studied these globalists so closely that he's in their heads and can predict their every move he hasn't even read any of the articles he claims he could connect with a thousand other articles and he expects anyone to give him credit for psychic level scholarship about a secret group that runs the world that's childish shit get the fuck out of here with that this is just a propagandist who realizes his time is up and it's a desperate way for him to go out looking good in the case that that happens
Starting point is 02:08:34 he's no Bill Cooper so he's not going out like that he knows everyone's laughing at David Ike so he's not going down that path either the way he's making it sound here he's preparing for people for him to be the one world government conspiracy version that 45 year old is at the bar talking about his glory days playing high school football now he could have made the NFL you can hear resignation but an insistence that everyone know that even if he gives up he knows everything he could have stopped the globalists if only people had bought more of his pills and he would have been allowed on Facebook yep that's I mean it's just a preemptive justification for like this is this is all gonna go yeah you know this is like yeah you know like I just can't handle the burden of being the person who can win yeah it's just I heard that as if this is just like a bomber now this is slowly falling snow behind he's a fragile little boy yeah it's really it's really paper thin yeah it's it's just like it when when the when the kid was having a tantrum and it was so loud and boisterous and he filled this adult man's body you're like this is fun and scary and now you see just a very small 12 year old boy who can't sit still who is afraid of anything that's different who can't handle the idea of masculinity being different than his own and who is a giant white supremacist and he's also dealing with the disillusionment of this like sort of father figure
Starting point is 02:10:10 in Trump who he thought would protect him and thought he would bring about all of the things that he right you know he's gonna get me a pony whatever I imagine this is when he was 12 all over again you know Trump's gonna get him a pony in the form of kicking out all the immigrants yeah yeah he's he's disillusioned that that isn't coming and not only is it not coming this person's not even going to protect me nope you know so he's having this crisis everything he's saying is nonsense but he's proven it all and yeah there is no in studio surgery that he's promised right this is just shit this is I wouldn't be surprised if this was so reminiscent of when he was 12 and his dad's like the communists are coming to take over and they're gonna kill all of us here next week none of that happened and then he's just yeah I mean you know it's it's certainly narratively yeah seems possible yeah I wouldn't want to speculate on that just because it feels like you know personal we have no idea I'm just saying Alex's last word is going to be rosebud buddy you could you could you could write a really interesting creative nonfiction story that follows that path but it may or may not be true anyway I just I mean this present day is is getting weird yeah this show is crazy the show is nuts I love the the stuff where he's talking about how orgies are manly like because I I I would probably listen to a show if it was all that yeah Alex getting into like being Tom like us yeah I would like to know exactly where he stands on all kinds of shit like that like a polyamorous relationship nope no no more than one dude or a bunch of dudes and a bunch of ladies can't do the other way around can you imagine like a harem is fine but not the reverse if this all falls apart and Alex starts doing like a
Starting point is 02:12:04 a love line type show that would be amazing give kids terrible advice listen you don't even need to ask where I stand on pegging I'll tell you that right fucking now it's not man like also I love it but I like that sort of stuff is so insane and so out of step with what he thinks his show is that I find it kind of with what he thinks he is yeah I find that kind of delightful on on some level even though it is gross yeah but man when you got a show in a situation where he's building this stuff up about the like I'm going to cut this out of a guy's arm yeah it's just such a bust I I can I can handle that too like in the present day I can handle that that's that's that's fun that's good fun you you just shouldn't be allowed to do that if you and that's that's your audience shouldn't that's violating checkoffs one big rule oh yeah yeah you know especially the way that that Tuesday show was just him taking calls yeah like it that's a disrespect if you if you have a gun on the mantle piece band leave that gun alone it's scary Jones is gone yeah yeah so we'll see what happens we'll be back on Monday of next week it sounds like a Monday and Wednesday yeah and we're not just going to be like covering the present day stuff just wanted to get back up to speed probably have a present day episode on Monday going over the rest of this week just in case he does that sir we'll see we will see but until then we have a website and indeed we do it's knowledge fight calm we're also on Twitter we are on Twitter it's at knowledge underscore fighting at go to bed Jordan and Facebook we are on Facebook and we are also on iTunes you could download you can leave a review etc spotify I don't know you guys listen yeah we'll be back but until then I am Neo I'm Leo I'm DZX Clark I get my own groceries and I kick my own ass Andy and chances you're on the air thanks for holding
Starting point is 02:14:01 hello Alex I'm a first time caller I'm a huge fan I love your work I love you

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