Knowledge Fight - #38: 30 Hour Marathon Coverage

Episode Date: May 9, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan about some of the important events that went down in Alex Jones's 30 hour "Marathon Broadcast for Free Speech." Despite containing about 29 hours of garbage, a couple important topics came up: Is Alex Jones teasing his inevitable turn on Trump? Is Alex Jones the victim of "gay bullying?" Did Obama literally steal a bunch of money from housing lenders? Does Alex get really defensive when people imply that his voice is fake?

Andy and Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding So Alex I'm a first-time color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody welcome back to knowledge fight I'm Dan. I'm Jordan welcome back Welcome back to me cuz I wasn't here for the last episode. We missed your friend. How you doing? Uh, I am Anxious sure Terrified why the world is encroaching in upon my psyche. Oh, you're not terrified about the fact that we're coming back on to the show How to do oh, I thought this was just a general personal question never mind. I'll keep it business for you This isn't a show about your personal

This is a show where we sit down and drink red wine You are a master of transitions talk about how did you do that? I've had a lot of practice see it We sit down and we talk about the life and times of Alex Jones, but there's a twist is there a twist There is I know so much about Alex Jones. That is crazy way more than he's comfortable with me knowing that's crazy Yeah, do you like listen to the show every day every day? Let me tell you something about me I know nothing about Alex Jones, and I never listened to you live in a bubble I live in the best bubble except for when I come into here and I discover all of the things about Alex Jones that I despise and thus

Make you make yourself super anxious Back to the beginning. Yes. Yes guys. We are gonna get into our episode for today But first I'd like to give a little shout out to our new donator. What's up Scott are? I'm a policy wonk Congratulations. You are now a policy wonk. Hey Scott you're a policy wonk if you would like to be a policy wonk Please visit our patreon page and make a little donation. You will be officially be a policy wonk Yep, also, I'd like to thank we got a couple new requests for time travel episodes really, and I don't want to do them, but we will be We will be

We you've immediately broken your contract with our listeners. No immediately. No, I will do them Not today. No, but I will do them. I just I'm saying some of the subject matter is stuff. I don't want to talk Oh, I mean, I think that people who are donating are playing the game correctly in that they want to torture you Yes, okay. I want us to go explore these awful times in Alex's past So we will be doing that but today. I got a real fun Exploration for us. I don't know if you're aware of this Jordan, but last week ended on Wednesday and Thursday with a 3034 I think that's what they ended with 34 hour live broadcast Wow They started during Alex Jones's show on Wednesday

Okay starts at 11 o'clock central and they went through I believe eight o'clock Eight or nine o'clock on Thursday eight o'clock p.m. On Thursday. Whoa, but here's the thing. It's kind of bullshit What? Yeah, because Alex Jones wasn't manning a lot of it Uh-huh, so you have like him doing his own show and then periodically they drop in special reports with him Which is just pre-tape shit. Yeah, so he's not losing his mind at three in the morning, which is what we want Yeah, that was though like I want to see him gradually get more and more one Very drunk. Yes, and two. I want to see like even when he's beyond what a human can do like he's at 27 hours and there's still seven more to go

I want to see him in a cot in the background of the video just like napping the nature as David Knight like David Knight should have read him a story that will put you to sleep You know, that's why he wasn't on at three in the morning Want people to stick around David Knight puts himself to sleep when he talks On top of that you got Paul Joseph Watson who's in London and so like he can just man some off-hours Greenwich meantime. Yeah, it's not really that weird for him Okay, then you got Rob do like fucking put him in anywhere. He's he's maybe a robot He's as good asleep as he is awake. It doesn't matter

So you have these things and like just just Rob do staring at the camera with his eyes open snoring the nature of a telethon is This tension of can they make it. Yeah, that's why Jerry's telethons back in the day were fun because you'd have celebrities At these crazy hours and they'd be like, oh that guy's on his last fumes Yeah, and Alex didn't engage with that as a style or a genre of the telethon But he did adhere to the oh fuck Let's try and pimp products as hard as we can good every hour They played a 10-minute thing of him just it was just Alex at the desk pre-taped like I like to have a lot of fun on

The show we like to joke around The globalist It was a disaster It was so embarrassing, but the telethon did include Appearances from our friend Mike Cernovich great who is now an official info wars employee wonderful I'm so glad that the axis of evil is really joining together into a gelatinous ooze of monstrosity A lot of my theories are starting to come together about these consolidations. We have in past info wars guest and

Pizza gate proponent Jack Pasobiec getting hired at rebel media along with Gavin slash Nigel McGinnis and Lauren Southern and Based stick man and these weirdos of the alt-right Over there in southern it's not important with her at some point in the future. She is a she's crazy She's just another one of these Provocateurs and faux journalists right it would be yellow journalism back in the day But now it's I don't know what it is. I don't know what to call it other than alt-right bullshit Yeah, citizen Kane Rosebud nonsense just complete lies. It's just a just a liar So you have that at the rebel media

Then you've got Cernovich joining up with Alex Jones over on the info wars team And then you have you know the Roger Stones the Jerome Corses you have that team over here rebel media up in Canada It's a Canadian company. So they're they're influencing our politics as a foreign company. That's very weird and especially okay I don't know it's very murky because the people in the rebel media the southern the baked Alaska these These folks Christ they are getting paid by some organization whether it be rebel media or some other organization to Counter-protest in Berkeley like they're getting paid for their coverage and organization of these Anti-antifa riots that are going on in Berkeley wait, so they're actually paid protesters exactly that's not fair

And it's No, well by our wonderful donors policy won't that's true We are paid by them, but like it's it's it's so obvious and overt that it's almost Blase to call out. It's like yes, your company is paying you to incite violence But you're not a paid protester. You're a journalist It's kind of that weird Fucking it's terrible, but so you also had appearances on the telethon from our friend from 2015 Lionel Lionel made I remember Lionel. Yep. Lionel the the guy who is

Inexplicably right about how to destroy the world and had no idea that that was the playbook his team would be using Yeah, it's very bizarre. He was on who else do we have? We had Ron Paul made an appearance Ron Paul is still alive Ron Paul is still alive and he seemed sane by comparison Yeah, why is Ron Paul going on infowars? I don't know Ron Paul know what info wars is I think he is he seems nice is what I would say Like he he's like a he's like an aw shucks. I'll do it for you Alex You just seem like a good old fella. I think that's a piece of it Yeah, I think he gets a lot of mileage out of his sort of cartoony voice

Okay cartoony old man voice because I think that people are like a little bit. Hey, he's not he's not up to something He's just a quirky old man. He's just a silly old man. I think there's some of that, but here's the most important thing So originally it was supposed to be a 30-hour marathon that would end at the end of the Alex Jones show Next day on Thursday. Yes, because he has a four-hour show It would have started at the beginning go 24 hours. I guess it was maybe supposed to be 28 at the beginning Or maybe it was supposed to include the three to five live after Alex. Who cares who cares the anchor man of Alex Jones's show on Thursday our main man Rappaport. Oh, don't whoa He did the whole thing he did the last hour

And he did it on Skype he did God I want to see him in studio. No picture is not up. What it's not Picture is not up. Nope. Is it there at all? It's there. It's oh god damn it. He still hasn't put it up You said when you said no picture. I was like, oh he got rid of no I was I was I was I realized that as my my mouth was making the words. I was trying to say no picture up Which is not good. That's not quite the way to be fair. We're on the 30th hour of this marathon Okay, so it was all a Croc of shit John Rappaport's report was boring. We don't need to go over it. It was toothless in many ways You double on time that all day. Yes, but here I'd like to play

I mean, it was really all about marketing. It was it was insanely about selling It was a literal telethon and so I'd like to take this out of context drop of Alex Jones In one of his marketing pitches info or store.com get the Paul Joseph Watson shirt. I think it's great for women I personally wear a guy on my shirt. That's women are mainly buying But she is mo I think the Paul Joseph Watson shirt is great for women. Why cuz he said dudes don't wear dudes on their shirts. It's gay Obviously, that's what he's saying He's saying it's basically that's for ladies. You don't want to wear a dude's face on your shirt. All right, whatever Alex

All right, okay. All right, great. So it but You're right. I just I just Love that you picked up the pen as if you were gonna take a note Yeah, I was like something's gotta happen here, but no, no, I just I don't even understand that that Toxic masculine No homophobic viewpoint. It's our don't wear a dude's face on your shirt Like what about all the people who wear like the rocks face on their shirt like this? Well, they smell what he's got those guys are homo erotic and in loving it sure now admittedly Paul Joseph Watson

slick I've never seen his face. He looks you say he looks handsome. So I'm guessing that's why he doesn't look handsome He looks he's attractive, but he is not handsome Didn't we have an episode where Alex Jones very close like very was a toe in the line where he's like Hey, Paul Joseph. He's he's a really good-looking man. They were I think I think that no that was Gavin McGinnis That was Gavin McGinnis who he wanted to fuck Yeah, yeah, doing his hacky washed over 90s material. Yeah. Yeah, so I would I guess that would apply to pjw too Probably. Yeah, I mean there's a reason he's worked there for 16 years right like that rent boy. Yeah

I'm not saying that Sue me for other reasons. It's not that one So today what we're going to be doing our episode is going to be covering the wednesday and thursday episodes of the alex jones program Contained within the marathon. Gotcha. So Mostly wednesday because thursday is a little weird But I want to start with thursday Because this is our 26th of the marathon. Okay, and then we're going to go back To wednesday and then we'll touch back on thursday a little bit

I want to start with this because you're doing a whole memento style podcast a little bit Okay, but I just because I want to start with this topic because it makes me so happy on thursday An article came out in buzzfeed by a guy named charlie warzel He had been doing amazing coverage on twitter of alex jones custody battle Right and it turns out that he has been researching alex jones's past In the way that you and I had really wanted to uh-huh off air We've had conversations about trying to contact people who worked at the radio station that alex jones started at right and we'd found some linkedin pages

We were this close to starting a linkedin account. It ain't not at all creepy way So we were we were about to go down this path and I'm pleased to announce that we don't have to Because this guy did it for us. That's fantastic. So I think charlie warzel did an amazing piece of journalism here Honorary policy won't so absolutely. Yeah, honorary king of the policy wants. He is I would love to get him on I'd love to have a conversation. That would be really cool. Yeah Uh, I I'm gonna try and reach out to him on twitter. See uh, see if we can get in touch with him But that would be really cool. I think we should do that on thursday this article came out and of course There's a lot of news in the world

alex jones has to take up a bunch of his program to talk about it. I I would guess that He's gonna talk more about alex jones related things than non alex jones related things. It's interesting It's interesting that you would say that so Okay, i'm going to after I play this because he's a narcissist. I'm gonna read some selections from this article Uh, after we get done with this clip, but I want you to see what he's focusing on in this clip I think it's I think it's pretty important first off buzz feed Is reportedly a hundred million dollars in debt. It's not but also Wait, why would why would you even make that up? I I don't know. I they're they're not they're not even a publicly traded company yet

They're about to have their IPO next year probably buzz feed is to show how they're failing but propped up with the new york times Which is not failing Had a reporter for months I've got a call on one of our old shipping department guys Matt who was a great guy who was getting married. They wanted to move back to main He said he literally got like called 20 times until he was going to follow complaint for harassment How much he was getting called by buzz feed? And I read this article they wrote and it's literally

95 total made up crap So They had a guy for months doing this just to I guess make it look like it's real and then the weird little stories in there That are just totally made up So complex, you know, you even think it's real and I passed it around the people that have been there said none of this is even true They didn't talk about my dog. No, the only thing true in there that I saw was that I buy people steak dinners and stuff Sure And I'm always buying office lunch every week or so. I just like doing it. It'll get catering in

I'm fancy That's why matt from shipping loves you so much. There was just nothing there was like I'm obsessed with rush limbaugh And I and I and I hate him and I have a fake voice I mean I've openly said I've criticized that limbaugh before but I've said I hope he stays on air I don't want to be in a time slot up against him. That's what DC and made me do 19 years ago And I spent money on his show and they were boycotting him and led a movement for people to advertise to keep him afloat Never got to thank you for it Limbaugh before he anyways buzzfeed. I'm gonna get the buzzfeed for the implants. He's got

Sounded with a very smooth booming Nice voice. I have a raspy voice. I've been to the I knows You know throat doctor And they said yeah, you have big lesions on your larynx screaming back when I used to scream at rallies without bullhorns I caught the blood I didn't have a very deep voice wasn't wasn't a high voice But all the bullhorning and not bullhorning and screaming

That I've had to go to specialists now And I've had sleep studies done too. I have obviously sleeping back because of a big head big chest Some weights was a lot better than it used to be but I was really bad at oxygen like 64 percent sometimes So, I mean you're asking why he's going through this. It's to make himself a victim I mean, yeah, he's trying to he's trying to be like Why are you picking on little old alex jones? Look at all of my problems that I have going on. He's choosing one paragraph from buzzfeed's thing to discuss

And I'll read this to you. It's discussing during the obama years Yeah Others close to jones during this time said that despite a growing audience the broadcaster was insecure Two former colleagues said jones reserved his greatest resentment for rush limbaugh The jealousy was so intense that jones began to crib his now famous crushed gravel voice from the talk show legend Quote we'd spend weeks getting everything just right in the studio a former employee recalled Then he'd go for a drive and hear rush again and say I need my voice to sound something like that And so we'd completely re-engineer the sound to make him gruffer

so listen I mean, I guess that's fine. That's fine. Who cares? It's kind of petty and superficial. But yeah, who cares? No, I mean if you if you want to it's the most it's the most irrelevant thing in this entire article Yeah, but like These info wars employees that they got to speak to them are all anonymous Well, they have to be they sign lifetime non-disclosure agreements

I feel like and alex knows that And so he can deny flatly everything that these people say and he knows that they won't come out and say no I said that yeah, he knows that it'll never get proved because then those people will get sued Yeah, but I feel like a lifetime non-disclosure is illegal. I know we discussed this. It's it's not but I feel like it has to be It's not it's it's a thing you can willingly enter if it's a it's a part of employment Anyway, yeah, but isn't there a moral? Isn't there a moral authority saying no not in the law? Oh, that's a good point So I forgot that the law has nothing to do with morality. I don't know fair enough

I'm gonna get to some of the more stuff from this article, but I want to close out this clip because it ends so funny quit breathing quite a bit and You know, you know all this and you're reading where you have a fake voice. I mean, I'm I may have to have surgery Because my ragged torn up voice about five years ago was kind of cool Now I've lost control of range and it's getting deeper And more raspy and more torn up. I'm like an 85 year olds larynx sexier I

And then it said re-engineer the sound to make me gruffer I've told them CJ get ready when we come back I've told CJ who's our one of our great engineers and west Over and over again make me less gruff and less raspy And Nico when he got hired was honest and said he thinks my voice is grating. I've said that over and over again. I don't like my voice Some people do women's the opening for dr. Who I don't like it. This is my voice Some people like it some people like it women do you were talking over him saying I know

I did it's just a dr. Who theme came into my head. Uh, but yeah, he just basically said The only people who like my voice Uh, it gets ladies wet our women gets ladies wet. They sit on speakers while I scream about the globalist I remember that I remember that. Um, so that's the only like that's all he's going on He just did like a four or five minute Bit about my voice is real. I got larynx polyps. Yeah, I feel like uh, he probably isn't going to engage with like the meat Of the criticisms maybe well, it's even like uh, the article itself is called alex jones will never stop being alex jones That's a that's a perfect angle to take on it because yeah, that's absolutely right

The thrust of the article is largely about not about how he's fake. It's about how he can't stop himself from being himself right and he is His own worst enemy essentially So, uh, so the real problem is that he's too real, right? So for for like four minutes He's talked about this this voice stuff. Here I go. I'm going to read you some excerpts from this amazing article Amazing so this is about his early days Jones was a modest public access success

But he owes his first real media job to his dentist father who solicited a station manager at the austin talk radio station kgfk During a routine teeth cleaning. He said He's got shit in the guy's teeth. He's like, hey, uh, by the way, you want to give my son a job. Don't you poke Poke you want to give my son a job? Don't you? Oh, you want to keep that? And this is substantiated quote He said my son's got some out there ideas But I think he'd be perfect daryl o'neill the kgfk manager who brokered the deal explained Quote the next week he brought alex in for a meeting to secure jones a spot on the station

Jones's father became his first uh, his son's first on air sponsor So daddy bought him a job all of his complaints about people Like taking shortcuts and all this He his entire career and now granted he's made a lot of good moves sense He's he's parlayed of some uh, some nepotism into a whole lot more than most people Absolutely, but all of it comes from his dad. That's super fucked up I mean that you know the more we learn about His his growth as a human being the more we see daddy issues mommy issues

So some here's a little thing about his personality Others who knew him at this time this is that is back in the kgfk days Remember jones is volatile easily bruised and prone prone to vengeance One associate recalled jones tearing down bulletin board memos from fellow station producers who'd criticized one of his more controversial segments And an austin chronicle article from july 2000 cites multiple public access producers who claim quote That jones has used both acac policy and legal maneuvers to intimidate them or get them thrown off the air Which he claims the globalists are doing to him and acdc policies as well

He is always back in black. He's got big balls Quote being on tv or radio has a way of changing you austin chronicle founder Lewis black an early jones critic and frequent target of jones's early rants said not the same Not the professional ranter lewis black and for alex it was it was always always about ego when he got that validation There was no going back. That's from someone who was very involved with him early on quote Oh, this this this Is a nice confirmation of something we've discussed and a theory we've had yes

Quote sometimes he'll say he has sources and he's been told a piece of news Has been confirmed But we wouldn't have that information a former info wars employee said quote Later we'd find out that it was because a week earlier We had a caller on air who theorized about something and alex repeated it as fact It's true. Yeah, it's true. We figured it out, but we've also just literally seen that We've seen it happen in the the y2k episode Uh, we haven't really talked about it

But after the inauguration during the uh during the post inauguration celebration He was talking to an indian dude who explained that islam Believes that every country that believes in islam is the house of islam And everything outside of it is the house of war and there needs to be war on all of these places, right? alex has repeated that verbatim Repeatedly just because some random dude told him yes, gotcha nothing He never said it before that guy on the street. It's crazy So he just absorbs things that he like that that he likes that people tell him

And then just turns them into truth in his brain. I got sources. Yep Kate starbird a professor and researcher at the university of washington accidentally stumbled upon info wars digital footprint while conducting a study of how rumors spread on twitter During the 2013 boston bombing starbird found that a specific rumor that navy seals. Also. I could not love starbird more Yeah, that's great. That's perfect. Uh starbird She found that a specific rumor that navy seals had carried out the attack was largely attributable to info wars tweets and links Second only to youtube at the time. We thought this was pretty insignificant. She said but things look very different in hindsight I actually accidentally threw the very in there. I apologize

That was things look different in hindsight. Yes, but in our world. They look very different. Yeah, I was editorializing a tiny bit Yes, yeah, I have to call myself. You took her you took her quote out of context. That's not what she said Uh, when the fuka jima nuclear disaster happened alex bought tons and tons of potassium I had died and oh my god. Did we sell that a former employee recalled He can sell 500 supplements in an hour another counter. It's like qvc for conspiracy Yep, we nailed that. Yep Uh According to one former employee jones bragged that the info wars store grossed

18 million dollars between 2012 and 2013 Wow another source puts that number closer to 10 million dollars And this was before the popularity jones and info wars enjoy today Part of the success of the store came from jones's ruthless deal making quote I watched him on the phone with some poor author who'd written a book jones wanted to buy And jones would negotiate him down until he's making no money jack blood a former radio colleague said wow Two former employees alleged that jones would instruct staff to find products that were failing And convince them to whittle their margins to almost nothing in exchange for the info wars endorsement

Quote alex's business model was to ensnare these companies at a low rate and lock in exclusivity The former staffer said noting that attaching the info wars brand to a product often destroyed a seller's future prospects to go mainstream Yeah For some employees the shift from what they saw as a crusade a crusader journalism to content marketing for colloidal silver was jarring Quote it became a moral issue issue for me one said it's why I don't work there anymore Okay, well fuck that guy. No he quit. Yeah, but he quit because it went from he quit because he was like Man, I thought this was all about the conservative ideals and the fight against the globalist You sold out man. You sold out at the same time

I hear what you're saying, but I think that you could make a much better argument for being involved in it at that point Then once it gets to the colloidal silver marketing like that's unacceptable Having a conservative belief and believing that this guy is on the vanguard of that. It's understandable. It's it's not good But we know his conservative beliefs, but it's easy to get duped You know like it's No, I'm not going to be on this dude's side. I'm going to give him a fuck that guy I'm going to give him a wide berth or her. I don't know that's a good point Four former staffers suggested that this influx of money inspired the greatest change in jones demeanor and an info war strategy

Quote it it's become less about affecting change and more about being sensational and making money one x employee explained It didn't start out that way He was a lovely person to hang around for a long time, but that's soon evaporate evaporated In interviews four separate employees Unprompted described jones as quote a tyrant who oscillated maniacally between excitement and anger Quote working for alex was like a combination of black beard meets hitler one former employee said One minute just on a high and swash buckling and calling us to action the next punching out walls Neither of the one which black beard was a bad dude. Which one which one is the guy who punches out walls?

The hitler is more likely to be swash buckling in this circumstance hitler couldn't punch a wall Uh hitler was known for punching out jewish, uh dry walls. Uh, uh, really? Two former employees recall that after an employee left the company jones would call a staff meeting pull up youtube videos of their work And take turns making fun of them quote the unsaid implication a former employee said was that if you leave this will happen to you Quote jones rewards the people who buy in all the way one former employee said But there's an expectation not to contradict him or the message I mean some of that stuff that's abuse like that is that is abuse But that's still like what what we just what you are getting the criticisms about

our Literal corporate culture sure like that's kind of the issue now. He's making money. He's a brand So he's just a corporation now and what corporation isn't going to reward people that buy in the most But I used to work at group on and if we had a meeting after someone left And they were like making fun of how bad their work was or something like that. I would I would be so uncomfortable That's unacceptable. It is that kind of environment is hostile That's abusive and that that quote the idea that the implication is that when you leave we will do this to you Keeps people in line. That's cult behavior. Well, that's yeah, but that's the same shit. They do it target

Not to that extent though. I I don't know like if you see some of the anti union shit at Target and the like they go they go real far there But that now you got to unpack the union implications of that that's different than just like a you guys see how that asshole restocked the shelves And I don't think there's a parallel you can draw because it is sort of creative work in terms of info wars Even if you want what it's it's very creative creative and then it's fiction, right? It's different than stocking shelves Anyway, here is a quote that really gets into this is the last paragraph. I'm gonna read you should all read this entire article It's amazing But this one is about some of the it sort of validates a lot of the theories we have about the political landscape right now

According to one person present at info wars studio on election night of 2016 Jones boasted of having 18 million viewers as the returns came in quote now jones is probably exaggerating the source said Yeah, but even if it's half that you're talking serious influence if you can get them voting Alex doesn't have listeners. He has followers The audience jones had spent decades building had finally made its presence known It rallies on social media and finally at the polls Quote that rural vote for trump nobody saw coming the source continued It wasn't only alex, but I think you can ascribe a significant portion many first time voters of those votes to him

Quote he's like the gerbils of 2016 another long time jones associate said he really won the election for trump Uh Yeah, but then it also I mean, yeah, that's but That's why we're here like we we sussed that noise out pretty quick The article also goes on to say that he probably didn't want uh, trump to win because then the whole Liberals in charge. We've got to defend conservatism that whole thing goes away But uh, well and and as we've seen because trump won you have to shift his his shift has been jarring and uncomfortable and almost certainly due to that extra

influence and extra visibility That's where all of these lawsuits lawsuits and shit are coming from Absolutely, Hilary was president and he had the the liberals to rail against None of this shit would be coming on him. Yeah, he wouldn't get be getting sued by Hilary Exactly, you just I mean google shubon. He's probably not gonna lawsuit him if that's I mean, they definitely have a They lawsuit him because he slandered right right absolutely, but now that he's very visible It's much more like I don't think there's any surprise to the timing of shubon. He's lawsuit Once once people started watching him. No, actually that's not I don't think I don't think that's the case

I think that the timing of the lawsuit coincides with the closure of the uh, court case That had to do with the children in twin falls, Idaho that case That case ended recently. So that case just ended. Yes. Okay, and so after that they wanted a retraction And alex did his bullshit. Gotcha. So I I don't think it's because he's influential It's just a coincidence that was it was happening at the same time as the very public custody case. Yes Gotcha, and I think it's very unfortunate timing for alex. That's very unfortunate But we've we've heard some of the stuff that's escaping stuff that's in this article And now I'll go back to alex returning from break and see if he gets into any of it

By the way, my mic suddenly sounds different. I don't normally talk about myself. We're under such attack We have to actually say the truth Buzzfeed was under all the fire for their internal documents coming out Where they were gloating and hoping that trump would be killed They're they're they're their leader over there He's referring to like private messages between uh, buzzfeed writers that were joking about the idea of trump being assassinated It's probably inappropriate, but at the same time it's not like editorial I don't give a fuck if it's inappropriate, but it's also not official. It's just them goofing off in private messages

Yeah, it does. Do you mean like normal people are doing every single goddamn day on the street? Sure that guy for several months Calling people I knew in college my first jobs Trying to get somebody who didn't like me to make something up and I guess they did I mean i'm reading this article alex jones will always be alex jones and the only true thing in it is that i'm not an actor And I really believe what I say and what I do That's two things that's two things using unnamed people to make up that I didn't want trump to be elected That I didn't want obama to be defeated in 2012

And that My voice is fake and then I told the producers that I want to sound gruffer No, I believe my voice is grating and annoying at times and I said I want to sound smoother and like I'm in the room And I've had engineers here doing that with my engineers and it's all on record So that's the level of lies in here that I have a fake All on what record and then I'm trying to sound like rush limbaugh folks rush limbaugh before he went deaf That's politically incorrect before he became hearing impaired No, that's not great smooth booming voice pretty sure nobody cares. I have when I get excited

It's almost like a high-pitched low voice. It's very very annoying. We agree high-pitched low voice I've asked him to take the the the the the the raspiness out to be less gruff It's very much a definite hearing person. I was saying Take the raspy gruff filter off We have a filter to block that that that's actually my directive the opposite again of what buzzfeed says She's so it's all pure bull Who cares why are you fighting this battle louder in my area? Is that Why is this the area where he's like?

Look nobody Says that my voice isn't my voice and I don't it's the least Interesting or important thing and you know what if it was if it was anybody else I would say this this is a distraction from dealing with the reality of the article Yeah, I think this is 100 the thing he is most angry about yeah that idea of You guys are saying that I wanted to change my voice to sound like that guy Fuck you. Well, I sound like me. Well, there's a part of it That's that and then I think the other part is just that it naturally fits into his narrative

That he's already spinning about like people thinking he's an actor which again is based on something his lawyer said right But like I think that it's because like oh this matches He's good at finding pieces of things that fit what he's already doing right and then just sort of incorporating them in He's kind of like um a bullshit black hole That just but it's like a specific black hole. He's got a he's got a gravity engine behind him Yeah, absolutely So he goes on another like a couple minutes talking about his voice not being played Of course

So he spends at least like 10 minutes covering that nothing about the substantial covering that is a very Interesting way of putting it. So that's how he spent a lot of his thursday show Now let's go back to we go to breaking news Somebody said my voice doesn't sound right. Yeah among many other way worse We're gonna have several guests discussing whether or not my voice sounds like this. Hey lionel. How's my voice? I'm gonna play I'm gonna play clips from the joe rogan podcast So you guys know what I sound like when I'm not on info wars. It sounds very similar We've got lispy ass mike cernovich coming in to talk about voices

Like the rest of the time it's just every guest discussing what their voice sounds like mike cernovich coming in to talk about How my lisp is real uh, it's it's insane and I feel actually a little bit bad about Saying that rapaport sounds like he has dentures Rapaport doesn't have dentures those teeth are twice as real as everybody else's that's because they're made from real teeth They're american made he he had his teeth removed Melted down and then rebuilt into teeth and put him back in his mouth and he was done by an american company These are americana teeth exactly. That's what's important about rapaport. Do you know who do you know who wore john rapaport's teeth Originally, I don't george washington. Wow. It doesn't get more american than stealing george washington

So he's on some bullshit, uh, but let's go national treasure three. Let's get those teeth I am still seriously waiting for national treasure three. I'm very excited for it to eventually come out Is there I was there only two there's national treasure in the national treasure book of secrets Yeah, and then the third one i've actually sort of written a spec script for Or at least an outline Okay, it has to do with nicolas cage also known as benjamin franklin gates in the movie. Is that that's not real is it? Yeah, that's his character's name. That's real. Yeah, so he finds out

I guess that must have like just broken my brain to the point where I just skipped over I was like no, we don't need to do this That's nicolas cage his name in every movie nicolas cages in his name is nicolas cage Yeah, so nicolas cage in this movie he he finds out that napoleon never died and was actually taken to space And he from space he's been planning uh like an invasion and he's going to take over america But the secret in order like the plans Of how to stop him are underground in arlington cemetery So in order to get to these plans i love this he's got to become president and then fake his own death

Holy shit to get underground at arlington cemetery get the plans and stop space napoleon That is he has to become president. Yeah regardless of the rest of that Of course, that's the main idea that that book that national treasure 3 should have. Yeah, absolutely Benjamin franklin gates has to become president. Yeah, but as a con as a con. Yeah, well, yeah Becoming president is incidental to his plan somehow. Yes. Anyway, national treasure 3 colon president in 60 seconds. Yep I want first of all, I would love it if that was the plot If even if it's not I need a third one. I love those movies so much But let's go back now to wednesday. Yes, we're gonna go back to the beginning of the telethon

Uh wednesday 12 o'clock center 11 o'clock central. Yeah 11 o'clock central Uh, alex jones is kicking things off and he starts off wednesday's show Very weird Very weird. This is the opening of the the telethon. Yeah, and Throughout this you're gonna see something really strange in alex. Okay, and it's a trend that uh, I think Is going to blossom in the coming weeks and months. Okay. Uh, and that is a change that was inevitable I've got this to say trump is really going off his trajectory more and more We sent you to drain the swamp

And you're not quite doing that with this new spending bill and a few other things you're doing Well, here's the deal trump is draining the swamp But it's like it's a video game. He's like fighting the big crime boss at the end of the level And the power level the boss is going down But as trump battles the globalist, he's looking into the eyes of the devil He is slowly becoming them. So he's doing all these great things But at first he was a hundred percent the first 30 days Then the 60 days later was at 98 percent then 70 days later. It was at 95 percent

And then now he's at like 70 percent That was a very good drop He was doing great for 70 days and then it's gone all the way down And I think everybody can see it now. He wouldn't have done all the things he did if it wasn't real These are devastating blows devastating blows against the globalists. These are these are real things declaring sovereignty Getting big banks to loan to small businesses They are doing tpp making better trade deals with china still not getting to build the wall, you know, the funding's not there

So you can't be killing obama care when they had the conservative votes bringing up that Watered down version. Well, wasn't as bad as obama care, but was I want to point out that this is before the house passed The trump care stuff. So he doesn't know about that. He's not yet jerking off about how cruel it is He seemed pretty excited once that did break because that did that broke on the thursday show and he didn't He didn't or was it friday? Yeah I don't know who cares whenever he didn't he didn't get into it, right? But he's like, oh, they passed it Senate's gonna pass it. Who cares?

But um So in that he's saying first of all, it's amazing that he's starting to get lay the tracks for him to get off the trump Uh bandwagon. Oh, yeah, which is as we predicted this was going to happen It's absolutely inevitable But yeah, the things that he's still holding water for are things that aren't real The thing that he did stop he did get out of the tpp. That's the one true thing in that list of stuff He's saying he's done Like a certain finalize that. Oh, I guess I I guess I didn't see that

I didn't see that we withdrew from the declared intent to withdraw from it Oh, so that but that's not a thing But it does indicate and there are a lot of people who want that to happen It probably will happen if it hasn't already I would I would bet against I don't understand the finalization process and shit like that We're not working out better deals with china. They're not unless you consider all the trademarks. They've given trump personally To be working out better trump is working out way better deals with china beyond that the wall is never gonna happen There's that's just it can't it's because it's impossible and stupid mexico recently came out and said they would consider it a hostile act

It would be yeah, it doesn't get more hostile than building a fucking wall across a border And the comedy of it is that like, you know how india and pakistan aren't really good friends because of that giant wall on their fucking border Or east and west berlin. Yeah, you remember how that didn't go great didn't go great Um, so the other thing that's Gorbachev build a new wall We fucked it up space ragan That's national treasure for that's national space ragan so space ragan versus space napoleon is a great Is a great movie the true comedy of it though is that like I've talked to a number of people who support trump and a lot of the idea that they support about the building the wall

Is they think it will block drugs coming into the country Not realizing that drug dealers have lots of boats and airplanes and most of the drugs that get smuggled into the country Don't come through the border like airplanes can't fly over walls and build a taller wall And there's tunnels underneath the border. It's insane. The wall goes underground. I like it is a laser wall It's like the uh heads at easter island. They go way underground too. Yeah, exactly Here's here's my plan for a wall like like a doggie electric fence if you want a successful wall That is imp impassable on the mexico united states border. All right dig

about What 20 miles underground Set off a nuclear warhead and hope volcanoes show up every single fucking fissure on the ground Otherwise, you're not building a fucking wall Nope Also, the idea that it's going to stop uh the drug stuff is what motivates a lot of people because the opiate crisis is is bad Which by the way, they're reducing funding for that The agency that oversees helping people with the opiate headline white house proposes cutting drug control office funding by 95

percent uh The budget that was proposed would entirely dismantle a lot of the organizations that are responsible For helping fight the opiate crisis in the country. So everybody who supports the wall for that reason You need to look at the fucking mirror. Trump doesn't give a shit about opiates He doesn't care that your families are struggling. He doesn't care that you're suffering. He cares about bigotry He cares about symbolic Hatred he cares about this idea of promoting fear, but above all else. What does he care about dan?

Uh white nationalism making his own fucking money. That's true That's all he and I think he's actually taking a page out of alex jones' book and making a lot of money out of fear Yeah, I think that there is a part of he's maybe inspired by alex a little bit I here's here's the only thing I want to say about that. Okay, and this I think is a discussion Here's what I want to say what everyone can fuck themselves See that's kind of my thing. I want to I want to have compassion. Yeah, that's what I want, right? Because it's very clear that all of these people who voted for trump Were diluting themselves into thinking he was the thing that he very clearly wasn't yes

And no matter how many times we told him he was the thing they thought he wasn't They didn't believe us. No no So now they have to they have to begin to know that he's not that thing just like just like alex jones is saying He's gotten off track for what we thought he was going to be and alex jones is kind of a bellwether It's like if you've lost alex jones if he's starting to turn on you then shit's bad, right? And so I think it's also an indication that he knows that something bad's coming Yeah, like because well, he's his sources are dt jr. In such well, no, we're gonna get to that But alex jones does talk about I mean he talks to roger stone all the fucking time

Yeah, roger stone has to know that he is in big roger stone's fucked. He isn't big if roger stone escapes this one I'm gonna be really pissed. I mean he's a slippery dude. He's survived a lot of political I can see him. I can see him seeking asylum rather than Actually doing any jail time if anybody is smart. They will have taken away everyone's passports already Like you these people are flight risk now. Let me ask you a question. Okay. Have we seen anyone smart yet? No No, no, they those guys could there might be a ton of really smart people working behind the scenes that we are unaware of entirely possible It doesn't seem like they're doing a very good job though. So here's here's the one thing though, right? They are getting fucked by trump and the republicans who they voted for faithfully

For so long. Yeah, and they apparently they had no idea they were going to get fucked They were going to let them die for touch cuts and they are going to die There is no there's no middle ground on this They voted for the people who are going to murder them. Yep, right Now I want to feel compassion for them because I don't want people to get murdered Right and yet at the same time there is that part of my brain that says Fuck you. Well, that's because we're gonna die or yeah. Well, yeah It's not like it's a it's not a situation where they've only doomed themselves. They've doomed the rest of us

Yeah, well, they've doomed themselves more. I think like legitimately you and I are people who are in a position where if You know, we have pre-existing conditions Oh the most to the point where our mental health especially will go off the rails real hard if we don't have So fast if we don't have certain protections Here's the thing and I know that I sound uh, maybe uh, a little optimistic But I have to believe That with the outpouring of attention, uh people calling reps and senators I I don't think that there's any way that a bill including that stuff would ever pass the senate

I don't think so either But again, all of the stuff that I don't think has happened or would happen. It's all happening seems to keep happening Yeah, so like there's no way lapen wins tonight. Hold on, but I'll be god damned if I'm not terrified by like 90% We'll get to that in a little bit Yeah, but uh, less. Do you think that alex jones is just dipping his toe in the water of trump? uh Denial, I don't know trump tonight judicing. I don't I'm not exactly sure what what is cocking. He's cocking out trump I don't think he is. No, I think he's really in turmoil. Uh-huh and he goes on to say a little more right here

Occasionally we have to bring the gorgon back From her crypt to just remind everybody the medusa like creature that we dodged redundant last year on november 8th Does that mean Donald Trump's perfect? Absolutely not. Does that mean we won't hold his feet to the fire? Absolutely, we will But trump's done a lot of good. He's also starting to do some pretty bad stuff and I expected this earlier actually I said we got 30 40 done when he claimed he'd do that. He'd be legendary He's already pretty much gotten that done. He's gotten so much done, but it's still what sad And quite frankly even more painful

To try to figure out how he could be so good and do so much good But the average person and for national sovereignty and and so much to expose political correctness And the united nations and globalism and then start going sideways It makes it even worse at a cellular gut level, doesn't it? Well, I mean like let's talk about him exposing political correctness in the past Donald trump has threatened to sue people over jokes. Yep in the past and oh well Jeff sessions fucking got a woman Convicted for laughing at him right that pathetic little Now fucking fuck that no totally fuck that fuck that fuck that we don't need to go into that

Let's stick on topic. Let me give a tiny discrepancy on that I'm totally against this woman being convicted or jailed at all But that's different than trump suing somebody about making a joke about oh absolutely great because In this case you can hide behind a very cowardly explanation that this lady was disrupting senate proceedings or something like that Fuck off. I know it's dumb. Yeah, but you can make that argument I'm not saying it to you. I'm saying it to anybody who would ever consider that argument as a rational thing But if you are super bad, you know super bad You could conceivably make that argument whereas with trump

He's literally talked about suing newspapers that publish bad things about him. Yep Ryan's previous was on a tv saying that they're talking about Opening things up so you can sue the press. Yeah for saying negative Which is a complete deterioration of the first amendment. Absolutely. It's insane the idea. I think that's the most The negative stuff we talk about with political correctness. This is way beyond Be saying don't say tranny say trans. Yeah, or whatever. That's not politically correct compared to I'm going to sue you for writing something. I don't like right that's I'm going to sue you for saying tranny instead of trans right that it's fucked up. It's so fucking simple

It's so simple that both sides need to protect this thing Right because all you have to do is like the religious liberty shit that they want to do where it's like you should be allowed to Uh discriminate based on your religion, right? That is good for you Now so long as america is always a christian nation It's the same argument we made with like uh, obama expanding spying. It's not good It's not good because then we might get fucking trump right right that kind of a thing And I think it's so obvious that if you stop

Yeah, and just divorce yourself from your bullshit ideology for two seconds You don't want these religious freedom bills to pass. Nope because and even worse I you know, I don't believe in any of that religious bullshit But you don't want me like you don't want to do a religious freedom bill there because then if atheists take over Fucking we can do the same shit to you right right like you don't understand that We have these protections for all of us. This is meaningless. Yeah, you're right I mean, we were talking about this last night. It's this is never going to pass the courts like it well Gorsuch well, I know that's that is sort of a wild card

But I think five conservative justices but I think even some of those conservative justices wouldn't be into this Because it does it would violate the civil rights act right? It's it's so maddening to me the people are not like they don't understand that fine distinction That is if you pass this this religious liberty thing Implicit in that is that if you're a business and your belief is that black people suck You can just say no blacks. Yep. That's where we will be if this passes. It's the exact same logic This is not a slippery slope. This is just the application of the logic Take the same words replace black with lgbt and you have jim crow laws. I mean, it's that's what it is

It's absolutely discriminatory. It will never it will never pass and again You attorney generals have come out across the country saying that if this does get implemented We will immediately sue right and so it will be a huge fight and there's no way that can pass and if it does again Bedlam it will be fire in the streets. I don't that's that's the thing. I kind of I I'm I'm a little surprised We're not already at fire in the streets. That's because we got this nice wine that is probably because we have we are We are plied with many Distractions to keep us from like we're we're recording this when we could be burning things down Dan. Yeah, quite. Are we are we derelict in our duties?

Uh for now, but I mean like that time will come. Yeah, it's see that's the thing though The time will come. I See if I could do some foley work, please don't do that No, I I agree with you I agree with you that it will never pass and that they will challenge it in court and that they will do all of this shit But at this point Our our reality has been eroded so much by the far right that I don't have faith in fucking

Anything see this is the exact conversation that was happening in the lead up to the election and right after the election The idea of resisting the normalization of trump right this idea of our our reality becoming so fucked up that things before That were unthinkable are now like oh, yeah All right, and that's the normalization process in your brain Which you have to do Because you have to think about in past times what would it look like if this individual event happened? Yeah, and try and hold on to that and if you do that if you evaluate the things that are happening on a daily basis By putting it into like let's say even during Bush's years

Like if you if you go back to that and say like oh This happened under bush. That'd be fucked up. That would be crazy, but everything feels Some how weirdly normal people are being anesthetized to the differences right and it's super fucked up We're that will be our undoing people just accepting things as normal. Yeah the idea that this religious Uh freedom bill is normal. Yeah, so fuck yourself freedom the idea that taking away people's health care, which is Explicitly about the budget that they're going to be proposing explicitly about the rich people budget Yeah, they just they want people to die so billionaires can keep 200 million more dollars It's 200 million more dollars that they can't do anything with if you have a billion fucking dollars

What else do you need? But that's why they also want to get rid of the estate tax and stuff like that. It's not about them having money It's about having a dynasty. Yeah, it's about being able to become the next old money It's like we you know, everybody fetishizes the idea of like the carnagies and the Rockefellers and stuff like that as opposed to I don't know mark zuckerberg who has new money. It is the distinction of royalty versus rich Yeah, they want kings. They want to be kings basically or at least dukes or something like yeah, you know And so that's what it is about right for rich people

That's the next phase of the game for you and me. It's making enough money to stay alive Right and for most people that is the case we're engaged in a struggle and thankfully I think for both of us I'd say we have jobs that allow us to stay alive and you know, I'm broke For the most part, but I'm comfortable right. Yeah, exactly. Whereas if you're rich You know, you maybe want to buy a nicer house. Maybe you want to buy a nicer car when you're really rich It's Legacy building. Yeah, and that's that's what it is for them It's because you don't have to worry about ever being poor and not being able to yeah

You don't have to worry about fuck. I can't pay my internet bill You've got to do something you've got to have something else to do right It's like I mean Alex Jones makes comparisons to video games all the time But it is kind of like that you're playing the next level level and level and level Yeah, yeah, and I mean that is that is how our brains work in that No matter how good a thing is we get used to it and that becomes the baseline And so we're always we're always searching for that next next level up. Yeah Um, but it's still do they the thing that always boggles my mind about these rich people

is that Have they ever read a history book where rich people Go too far And then everything's fine for them. Well, my concern like do they not know that every time rich people take one step too far? All of a sudden there are fucking heads getting chopped off. Well, my concern I think is that they have read those and they've taken lessons in terms of safeguarding from those Things that have fallen people like Mary Antoinette, right or uh, uh, you know other people who have been fucked over by screwing over the poor Right, you know, there are there are unfortunately negative lessons you can learn

Yeah, oh, they just didn't oppress people enough. Yeah, you know like oh, let's just push down even more See, but that's that's the thing that I think they I think it's always arrogance That winds up taking them down like with arrogance with this. Yes. Yes arrogance With this with this type of situation I I believe in Calling your representative. Sure. I do but but We're at the point now where it's clear that the Represent the house of representatives is entirely purchased. Yeah, like that's the obvious

There's no other conclusion to make and we're because these guys aren't and we're not here sitting Saying that like the left or democrats is are great either. We're not we're not we're not going to bat for them No, it's just it so happens that the way worst part of it is Well, the republicans and they don't they don't represent their constituents period. Nope. They are They are bought. Yeah, um, so so as as important as calling your representative is at this point Don't take 40 000 people and march down To the capitol building. Yeah take 40 000 people to your nearest billionaire and surround his fucking house. Yeah, that's it Yeah, what are they what you can't bring in cops? So then what are you that what are they gonna do?

Are they gonna bring in the national guard to protect one billionaires house? Maybe for 40 000 people just sitting around there And if they bring in the national guard, isn't that very isn't that the best optic for what the country is? I mean a billionaire is inconvenienced. So the entire country the entire nationalized military Comes down on regular people. Well, here's the fucked up thing I think more likely than the national guard what you'd end up with is like something like black water Or like some mercenary force protecting them. Well, I mean, we've already got we've already got the fucking militarized police for the keystone pipeline And the water protectors there. So they're they're obviously willing to torture and murder us

And I think the I think the biggest Problem is that it still hasn't really touched white people. Yep. It really I like the keystone pipeline 100 percent We saw the cops Murdering peaceful protesters. Yep, or or not necessarily murdering but at the very least. Yeah doing everything that can to get real close Doing things that just uh, luckily didn't lead to mass deaths. Yeah, exactly And which they very easily could have And the whole people in sub freezing temperatures is like no absolutely somebody could have died. That should be a war crime Absolutely. Yeah, that's torture. We would if we if you saw on the news russia did that you'd be like

That's a human rights violation and it was happening in our fucking backyard russia did it. I'd be like, of course they did Yeah, that's true. That's russia. You're right. But it's it's us doing it to our own people because they're brown And we want to get that pipeline and that's it and yeah, that's and again. I'm sitting here Supporting them as much as I possibly can It's short of like I donated money I did I did everything short of going there and getting my ass fucking frozen to death Well, eventually it's going to start happening to people who are white and this leads me to my next Point and I think after this we should move on because we're blowing real hard

But like we got to get back We got to get back to alex because the world is angering me as much as I want this to be you and me complaining about politics And maybe it will be as the show evolves and people donate more and we can do this every day Right, but for now it's still an alex jones podcast All right, but I do think that it is eventually going to touch us and uh, what is going to happen is there will be Um Kent state style Archetypial deaths. Absolutely symbolic deaths that will happen. Yep. I'm not symbolic death

They will be literal, but they will be turned into symbols right martyrs there will there and unfortunately It's bullshit that we can't take these people like alton sterling Uh, these people who have eric garner people who have been killed by the police As as the martyrs that they are absolutely that should be enough that should be more than enough But it's or the sandy hook sure children were murdered and we couldn't turn that into a rally and cry for gun control Yeah, so I mean like like the worry is are we too complacent like is it maybe we're screwed are we are yeah Are we too far gone? Like once once I saw that we couldn't turn sandy hook into anything I was like

That's that's that we will never have gun control, but you know one of the reasons we can't turn sandy hook into anything Is because of people like alex jones. Yeah, that's true There are these propagandists out there who sow seeds of doubt into whether this really happened or not Right, and then there are tons of people who are like, oh, you know what of course They want to take our guns away right so they create this fake incident in order to take our guns away It's all a plan all along So you have these people and I think again Put a nice bow on it. Yeah, that's why we do this show

Yeah, it's in order to fight back against these sorts of things Yeah people like alex jones and ideally to fight back against the complacency And there's a lot of more stuff that we should be doing and I hope we will be doing in the future But for now This is as much as we can do because we gotta go to work God what fucking capitalism I gotta feed my cat, you know Anyway, hey, that's why you guys should buy our bone broth So it's made out of different bones. We go we deep earth mine bones, right? We got dinosaur bone broth

Yeah, it's it's it's just nest quick I taste like chocolate. Yeah. Anyway, uh this next clip actually is very appropriate because alex jones has some thoughts About people calling themselves the resistance I bet he loves us. So let's go ahead and start going through some of these clips. Here's hillary clinton Includes herself as part of the resistance ever since they lost in november last year Seven months ago They have been Calling themselves the resistance

The resistance I'm steven colbert and if you're watching this transmission, you are the resistance Now I want to just stop there. That's a really bad steven colbert impression But I want to stop right there because his bumpers that he plays coming out of commercial breaks Do they have that same voice? No, but well more or less more or less literally say that if you're listening to this You are the resistance so he's He's quoting himself. Yeah pretending that steven colbert has ever said that

To mock steven colbert. I don't understand exactly what he's saying, but I get the the the sense of it Yeah, and that is that like you want the resistance. We're the resistance. Right. All right. You're co-opting our resistance I'm keith oberman russian scum russian scum. By the way, i'm keith oberman. I'm the resistance against the russian tako Kipe mababa How the olberpia calls themselves is the resistance now because they're the globalists that have hijacked the government taken over Trump was a beachhead of the resistance a manifestation of how strong The nationalistic awakening is whether he is totally real go sideways or turns on us Which I don't think you'll do does it matter in the final equation because we've gone from being obscure

In the closet demonized the redheaded stepchild to The paramount fastest growing global movement in the world against unelected worldwide tyranny known as globalism That is overt whistle dog whistle. Yep. That's white people white people white people We have been pushed. We haven't been allowed to celebrate our whiteness and so long That is speaking directly to people in internet communities like the people who on stormfront on daily stormer and stuff like that That I don't know if it's intentional on his part, but there is

There's a piece of that that will lodge directly in their brain and be like Oh, yeah, this is this is our time. We don't have to hide anymore And that's why at these protests you see people hiling all the time You see people with just straight up neo nazi regalia. That's what's going on It's nationalism is one thing. What is happening right now is not nationalism nationalism It's even white supremacy. It's beyond white nationalism. It is white christian supremacy. Yeah, and it's Christian in very Heavy air quotes. Yeah. Yeah, um the just air quotes made of anvils falling on the rest of our fucking heads

Yeah, so he talks about this like coming out of the closet stuff and what have you and his next clip Is really coming out of the closet. God. I hate these people Yeah, hating so much hating people who are different and then co-opting their terminology and ideas But you know how miserable it is to have to hide your existence You know how terrible it is to have to live a lie every day so people don't judge you It's the worst feeling in the world Which is why we should come out and hate people who do that also hate gay people who've had to hide their very existence For so long we should hate them because it's so miserable to be in the closet all the time

There's no way we could possibly Understand our own fucking hypocrisy for one goddamn second. Nope. It's all about us coming out of the fucking closet Also, there's a great. Uh, he plays a great paul joseph watson report. Uh, uh, it's like about dear white people And uh, what would happen if someone made a dear black people? Oh, oh, we know what would happen if somebody made a dear black people, right? It was called birth of a nation It was called a song of the south So like uncle tom's cabin. So He I mean, it's all just about how white people are the people who suffer the most racism

But anyway, this next clip is uh, back to the resistance idea Yes, I titled this clip the historical lineage of our decline to nothingness Okay, and it is alex jones. It's it's just linel's clip again No, because this goes back to the 50s alex jones explains the sort of waves of nationalism and stuff like that and uh, he also Uh, really can't figure out how he didn't plan So he's he's going off the cuff And he keeps sort of placing people in the wrong wave

And it's pretty funny right, but also i'll come at the end of this and explain Why a lot of these figures he's throwing in are are dumb to include and it's the mad drudges and the alex Joneses and the Jerome corsees and the pappy cannons We're not giving credit here. We're scientifically historically Where we came from nothing, but with the truth going back to berry goldwater started from the bottom And phyllis laughley we're here 60 70 years ago phyllis shaffley just died a month or so ago at what

Oh, that horrifying monster when she was 25 years old as a young law graduate Bring her back to life breaking the last ceilings that lady did it And then led the americana movement after berry goldwater's death phyllis laughley specifically was working to impose glass ceilings Yeah Her her first book that she she published and brought her into prominence was against rights for women Absolutely It was about how if we end up in the workplace It's going to ruin a lot of our privileges that we have

Oh and like the being able to be a homemaker we get to stay home all day If you go to the workplace, you wouldn't be able to raise your children Which hey, and I want to say this 100% if there are women who don't want to work and want to be homemakers And you know are in an economic situation where that is possible. I don't look down on that That's totally fine with me. I don't think and are you saying you support a woman's right to choose Yeah, and it's same for men too like if you're in a situation where you want to be a stay at home dad And you can be by all means dude, that's like buying a shirt with paul joseph watson's face on it I know I know it's not very macho. No, but like it's for women

Her whole thing was let's not allow women who want to do that to do that because it's going to ruin it for the rest of us Yeah, she broke the glass ceiling and then made one that's two inches shorter than that and made of steel So like that's where he's starting his lineage Hill the ceiling that's where he's starting his lineage is his phyllis schlafly and barry goldwater Right monsters monsters both so we stand on their shoulders They were the first wave in the modern wave of reawakening then The ron paul's and the ronald regans were the second wave didn't mean they were perfect But they were the opposition to globalism. They kept the flame alive

Showed what real prosperity was in free market Then you come in to the third wave matt drudge alex jones And then you come into the fourth way your own course. He got left off that list lapin His dad was first wave His dad was a horrible nazi and nazi his dad her dad was a nazi The nigel ferrages He's been around 20 something years, but he really peaked now in this third wave. You can then the fourth wave supremacist So very very very exciting time to be part of this ladies and gentlemen

Do you see that though? He couldn't keep his wave straight. He was like lapin in the fourth wave She's actually third wave her dad was her dad was first wave Nigel ferrage. He's fourth wave, but he's been around for 20 years Also, I don't know if you've spoken to people Who who are in england and their thoughts about nigel ferrage Most people there know him as someone like a completely failed politician Yeah, like he's run for office multiple times and just been like he would be like Uh, I would I would guess a more discredited version of ross perot

Yeah, like that that's sort of wheelhouse Um, or the buffalo bills The 90s buffalo bills. Oh, I was going straight to silence of the lambs right there I was like that is exactly what he is. He definitely talks his penis under between his legs. He thinks he's pretty Oh, he thinks he's so pretty. Uh, so I don't know man. Like I I get I get what he's trying to say But unfortunately it really reinforces this idea that there is a cabal Uh, and I hate to use the word cabal because I'm very against it in most contexts But of the conspiracy you might even say of nigel ferrage, uh, and his his

Leaning's in britain, right? Uh, le penne in france. Putin in russia trump here Yeah, what he's doing is combining these things that aren't nationalism. They're they're they're a weird They're a weird globalist anti-globalism Yeah, exactly like all of these leaders from all around the world have come together to say that all around the world We shouldn't have these leaders and they all are related to each other Yeah, not like as they're all they're all cheering for each other, which is so which is so weird It's like no, we don't want the un. We want our own un. Yeah, I don't know about that Yeah, we want we want the we want the black mirror world

Yeah, like they were the people who watched black mirror and like oh shit. That looks like good shit I that doesn't look like a dystopia at all. I love that I really need someone's netflix password because oh you still haven't seen it I watched the first three episodes and then almost started crying and I was like I can't watch this anymore They're brutal and now I don't have a password. I watched the one where everyone's on treadmills Oh, yeah, yeah, and then the guy turns into a performance artist with his knife. I was like, this is too real I had to back away from it. I was like, no, no, no, no, I can't I can't watch this No, there's there's plenty of stuff that's like that where I get the point immediately and I'm like this isn't entertaining

This is hurting me. Yeah, I loved it, but I'm not I'm trying to escape from this Why am I doing this to myself? It was yeah the idea that the idea that I walked away from it with was like uh like An incredible admiration for what they had achieved. Yeah, but I can only watch one every three months or something like that Watching the handmaiden's tale was just like handmaid's tale handmaid's tale. Sorry. You sounded like alex jones. I did I hom do Aidan's tale. He refuses to you. He always says handmaidens I get it. Um, yeah, no watching it going like yep. Yep. Yep. I want to shoot myself Yeah, I will watch that eventually again. I need a password if you guys want to tweet me a password

Ah Anyway, this next clip This next clip is what I would describe as anti sexism sexism And it's it's uh, alex jones talking about hillary clinton got joe biden saying hillary lost because she's a woman Record numbers of women voted for donald trump and you know that Yeah, we do this has nothing to do with what is between somebody's legs. It's what's between their ears It shows the arrogance and the bravada and the hubris of the elite to try to sell a drugged out evil crone With all of her evil record all the american people

It's like it's like you It's that's It's not about what's between your legs. It's that you're ugly and a woman and a witch. Yeah. Yeah, that's the problem Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sure her lady parts are great. I like lady parts It's your face that I don't like and if you really look at the statistics if you look at the breakdown of the votes It was white women. It wasn't like So like if you want to say women overwhelmingly voted for trump, that's not fair white women overwhelmingly voted for trump And that sucks turns out white is more important the gender. Yeah, what are we?

What are we doing with our world? What's happening? Are we sure we want to keep living here? I don't know So this next clip He goes on to you know how alex jones is really into just headlines and not the substance loves it This is basically going to characterize and explain that he doesn't just think of the news that way He looks at life that way and it's very interesting. Oh, that is interesting And if trump isn't perfect doesn't matter we still went for the package labeled patriot labeled renaissance Labeled nationalism and it shows the awakening and it's a very positive thing in a very very negative world We'll be back the 30 hour special transmission has now launched

So it's like yeah, we saw a box that said what we wanted it to say and we just grabbed that one Yeah, of course like I mean we didn't look what was inside it obviously It couldn't have been a trojan horse of some sort no one was trying to con us at all This guy who has a history of being a con artist. Uh, he said he was a patriot So I mean even if we were wrong we were right to be wrong What that makes sense? What? What look what kind of responsibility is this? What what what world are we living in? You know it

It's even more pathetic because pandora's box wasn't labeled all the worst things in the world It looked great. Yeah, exactly the box was killed it. It looked amazing We went for the box that said kill us all so i'm gonna skip this next clip because he's really just lying about poll numbers He says that uh, the polls were skewed 30 points in clinton's favor Yeah, that makes perfect sense and I went back and did a bunch of research into it about the uh, the The bias that did exist in polls. Uh, and generally what they do is that they give Liberals like a three percent margin Added on to the poll numbers and it's just because of uh, voting

Registration discrimination right studied over time right so the 30 point number is patently absurd Well, you didn't need like that's just patently absurd no matter like you don't even need you if you have been alive And you've seen any election. There's never been a 30 point difference between fucking He's just saying that too in order in order to build up this idea that trump had a massive Yeah, oh he had uh, he was the yeah, he had the highest Electoral college victory despite the fact that it was nowhere near the top five so now 20 30 So now, uh, at this point in the show we get into what will be a massive narrative of the show right Uh, he we've already discussed this on a past episode, but there's news about it

This is dealing with the idea that obama stole money From fanny and freddy in order to fund obama care There have been uh, some new breaking pieces to this story. How can there be new breaking pieces to something that he's absolutely made up because our man Jerome Corsi has been digging He's been digging into it and Corsi Corsi. He's got Corsi So he this is going to take up a little bit of the the the rest of uh, wednesday's episode Okay, and uh, it's all bullshit right and I will uh, fully well, it just like

There's no there's no way you can listen to that opening without saying. Oh, that's dumb What do you mean? How would you even steal money from fanny may and freddy? Well, it's it's actually pretty interesting the truth of the situation Okay, and I'll get into it after he establishes his life. I knew you would you're so comforting I got some other hillary clinton clips. I want to play but coming up in the next segment This is all over cnbc. It's all over the wall street journal. It's all over the new york times Some of them even give us credit. They don't Well, they want to say we're fake news because they're scared of us because they know we can force big stories out

One of courses why how sources i don't even know the sources. Thanks to alex jones. We've got this story. Fuck me. Here it is From market watch and fox business munition on fanny and freddy may funds used to pay for obama care. It's true We broke this This this broke on may 1st two days ago It's may 3rd today. Everybody's sort of pointing this out to me yesterday That did you know the news gave you credit? Here's dr. Corsi's article from yesterday treasury secretary confirms info wars.com reported Reporting on obama theft of fanny and freddy may close to 300 billion. We know of

That's just the documents that have been released from four years of obama. They still haven't released the others Of course, he got these through lawsuits that the white house I directed him to by private companies Wait, here it is fanny freddy profit payments should continue treasury says oh And here's the original article we put out february 27th That's two months ago Exclusive obama literally robbed fanny freddy to fund obama care exclusive

So, uh, we he'll play the steve mnuchin clip later Okay, uh, and we'll discuss exactly what that was covering when he gets to it Back in february we covered it when the first was pitching this narrative and it was actually a slightly different thing at that point It was about lawsuits That the government had against the housing market Yeah for their abuses that led to the crash in the right All that there were those abuses that none of them were ever public punished for and we should Financially they were punished a bit a little bit

But a lot of these liberal organizations like getting people housing and that sort of thing They ended up getting a lot of money out of lawsuits. Yes. So this is that one. No That was that was what they broke in february. That was the lie that they spun then Now there's an entirely different narrative that's being pitched off that foundation. But using the same Yes, it's still involves the same bullshit that we talked about then They've just repurposed for this new bullshit much like the denis montgomery stuff how they completely used the same Colonel to make a new story. Uh, once the first one was bogus, right? They're doing sort of the same thing with fanny and freddy, right? Uh, and the these

These sorts of things like how roadrunner cartoons keep using the same background shots, right? So his his New narrative is that obama is whole cloth Stealing from fanny and freddy. Uh, their profits in still in order to Uh prop up obama care and he did this in 2012 because obama care was going to fail in 2012 Which that even on its face isn't true um, so it's based on an interview that steve mnuchin did uh, and Man, I wish maybe we should just go ahead and play that clip from later. Just so you have some context. Okay. I feel bad Talking about it without it, but he doesn't get to the actual clip for like three hours

I just love that obama care is gonna fail narrative where it's like it's going to fail And you're like wait, are you saying it's going to fail because you're going to defund it forcing it to fail? Yeah, you know if you guys worked on it. Is this a threat you guys could work on it like you could make it More you could make it better. So here a little bit later instead. They're like get rid of it and burn everybody to the ground Yeah, I agree. I agree with you a hundred percent. That's why I was just pushing towards the next clip Yeah, I know I'm sorry. There's nothing to talk about other than my rage. Yeah, and and my agreement with your rage Uh, but so like a much further down the road. He ends up playing the mnuchin clip and it does not say what he thinks it says All right, here is the treasury secretary mnuchin

on fox business a day ago Saying that dr. Jerem Corsi is absolutely on target He doesn't say that indeed obama was looting the money from fanny may freddy mac illegally He doesn't say that because congress wouldn't fund it to fund obama care In the second year of the program before it was even implemented fully here it is There's a conversation going on on twitter and it has been for a long time About how president obama needed money for obama care and would take from all of the agencies and he took from fanny and freddy

Is that true? It is true. They they they used the profits of fanny and freddy to pay for other parts of the government While they kept taxpayers at risk And also I understand that fanny and freddy were not they were exempt from the freedom of information act Just last week. I understand that the the bill that kevin brady. Uh, i'm sorry. Kevin mccarthy was pushing through Is about taking them out of being exempt the full clips and dr. Corsi's article on them for worse.com Why did we cut it off at that specific point? I don't know alex's has very strategic with his cutoffs Yeah, so here it seemed like there was a more interesting line of questioning That was about to follow that we bailed on. Well, I I looked into this

Yeah, and I found some good resources that indicate that they're not saying what alex thinks they're saying Okay, but just because it's so much more fun this way I found bright bark telling them they're wrong So You you looked for the batard they made upon which to hoist them All of this stuff is backed up by other non bright bart sources But just because I want to use their weapon against them and they're all right. I'm going to quote entirely from bright bart

About how this is wrong So excellent about that clip and alex jones' belief that this proves that fanny and freddy Money was stolen and used for obama care stolen The confusion appears to have arisen because of the way bartoloromo Worded her question. That was the interviewer in that case Uh treasury the treasury put out a statement wednesday, however That makes clear that minuchin's answer was not meant to confirm any particular connection between obama care and the profits of fanny and freddy Because money is fungible, which means it can be yes moved around. Yeah one dollar here is the same as one dollar there

It's all do you mean dollars mean dollars no matter where yeah, and when when it's all money coming in It can be used in different directions if there's a surplus from this place You can use it to pay for a different thing right treasuries receipts of those profits fund Everything the federal government does from border patrols and military operations to the national endowment for the arts and public television So basically what that is saying and what that is explaining is that the money that comes in from fanny and freddy because of a settlement And because of the relationship that ended up having to happen in 2008 after the bubble right burst Uh, all that money does go to the government and it's just money that the government uses to fund itself Much like tax receipts or just or the fucking postal service

No, but the postal service doesn't make money They have in the past well the band does Not anymore So uh no no the postal service has many times in the past posted a surplus Okay, they've made money it didn't like just become More postal service like it was used to pay for other stuff Social security has posted a surplus in the past when the baby boomers were so outnumbering the their parents Social security made money. They didn't just like they kept putting it into other stuff

Money that comes into the government is put out into the things that the government does Yeah, now let me read it's all money. Let me read a description again from Breitbart of what happened in 2008 The companies were taken over by the u.s. Government in 2008 when officials feared their collapse could further destabilize the housing and financial markets Treasury provided hundreds of billions of dollars of funding while the federal housing finance agency fhfa Became their conservator under their original agreement with the u.s. Treasury Both companies were supposed to pay a dividend equal to 10 percent of their taxpayer funding As well as a fee on the hundreds of billions more the treasury had pledged to support them right interest for years

However, neither company earned enough to pay the dividend which forced them to draw even more from their bailout funds Just to send the money back to treasury as the dividend This circular draw as it came to be called threatened to be Threatened to put the companies into a death spiral slowly eating away at the remainder of the treasury backstop In mid-2012 treasury and the fhfa agreed to change the terms of the bailout So that fanny and freddy would no longer have a fixed dividend ending the need for circular draws Instead each company would have a flexible dividend obligation that would rise and fall with their profits Because the new dividend is equal to the positive net worth of each company

Less a small capital cushion set to decline each year. It's known as quote the net worth sweep At the time the net worth sweep was implemented treasury department officials noted that in addition to ending the circular draws and death spiral The arrangement would facilitate the eventual wind down of the companies by preventing them from using profits to recapitalize As policy makers designed a safe more stable mortgage finance system Oh, do you mean very similar to what is going wrong with the greece situation? And that they're not doing something sensible in there and say, okay Anyways because every attempt at bipartisan morgan mortgage finance reform legislation stalled out on capitol hill neither company has been wound down Instead they've remained in conservatorship and supported by taxpayer backing for more than eight years

A situation that nearly everyone involved in mortgage finance reform regards as undesirable So we're in a situation where Because of how bad things got and how bad it could have gotten if we didn't make a change back in 2008 Right 2012 Uh, we're in a situation where fanny and freddy give the fucking government billions of dollars Tends to hundreds of billions of dollars a year out of their profits in order to sustain themselves based on the bailout that was made in 2008 This story that they're claiming is some kind of Right is that money comes back to the government and some of it probably did go to obama care

Yeah, probably did because you got to pay for that somehow right you have to well that money is ours It's fungible. Well, no not just that it's the money that's coming back to the government is the money we gave them Yes, it's the loan. We didn't give them a week. I mean it's supposed to be a loan We gave them a great interest rate. Sure, uh an insanely great interest rate one that you could say was Too great possibly but yeah, that's how money works This is Jerome Corsi's reporting busted by

Bright Bart How fucked up is that? How fucked up is that that bright Bart of all places is pointing out that info wars is making a conspiracy theory You're bright Bart Hello, this is Steve Bannon Alex june's shut up. I don't know why I gave him that I don't know where that voice came from Is that supposed to be Apollo Joseph Watson? No, I don't know. Did you know what? I wanted to go against type with Steve Bannon's physique

So I went with that, but I realized also. I've never heard him talk. I don't think I feel I don't think I've ever heard him talk either, but I feel like he has to talk like late period orson wells dead. Yes So anyway, this is bullshit This whole story is complete bullshit And if you look into it a tiny bit it does sound scary and there is that kernel of truth that we talked about on the 2015 episode That's the trick. He's not as explicit about the kernel of truth anymore If he did he could maybe make his argument sound even worse. Yeah, or even scarier, but he doesn't But then he would have to deal with the fact that we're still doing that. Aren't we what do you mean?

I mean, we're still taking them like They're still taking that money. Yep And they're using it to pay for things and there's no end in sight No, there's the this will be a system that's in place And tell this that that wind down process they were talking about happens and it's not happening. It's not. Yeah, so so and and thank god It's not well. Yeah, we would be in way worse shape if if just You know, the government stopped backing them. Yeah It's not it's not an ideal situation to be in but the alternative is so much worse

Right, which is much like we talked about with tetris last night It's a situation where you have to accept a negative outcome sometimes in life. Yeah, you know, it's not It would be great if the these were just completely independent huge housing loaning loaning businesses, right? But unfortunately Bunch of people fucked that up and now we can't have nice things and also on the list of our problems That one's way down there So he's going to get back to this narrative a bit and he's going to bring in Jerome Corsi to lie a bunch about it Okay, and we'll get to that in a minute. But before we do I want to take us back to uh, the other day

We were talking about uh, how alex outed Donald trump's sons as sernovich's sources. Yes He I think got intense blowback Do you mean like he fucking should have yeah, I think he probably got uh Much like the ala fontis email. Do you think you got a call? I think sernovich probably was like, hey, man You can't do that fit Here's a list

I don't know how to fake a list You're doing mike tyson listen I'm gonna eat your heart. I'm ferocious I love pigeons. My defense is impregnable. My style is impetuous. I'm just ferocious. I'm gonna eat your heart praise me to Allah That was uh, that was definitely not mike tyson. Yes, it was that was something he said before a fight Really? Yeah He's awesome. That sounds uh, well, let's not go that far

In terms of like Hyping yourself up for a boxing match. Yes, agreed. I'm gonna eat your heart. I'm gonna eat your children. Right. That's so great I mean, he is a convicted rapist though. But I mean, so there's that In terms of performance though. Anyway, this next clip he talks about sernovich's sources And the soros group put out its articles through media matters saying find the leak and shut it down And I and I got to correct something because I saw the shish day and I kind of conflate things not on purpose But I talked fast. I got guests coming up. I mixed things together You do sernovich has a bunch of sources. I know that

Don jr. Says he should be given the Pulitzer prize. I agree. He should So should paul watson dot recourse to many others That's a lot of prizes. So, you know, give me to globalist So before we get to his actual like walking back his sernovich shit Like paul joseph watson in the past has been documented as basing stories on anonymous direct messages on twitter By trolls by people fucking with him. Yeah, absolutely. That's not Pulitzer prize winning behavior in the past Jerome Corsi has published multiple books. That's sure they ended up as best sellers But have been shown unfortunately that have been shown to be completely made up based on terrible sourcing

He's written multiple books about obama's birth certificate being fake and one about john carrey and his swiftboat shit Right. So like those are not Pulitzer prize people alex They are not If if any of them win a Pulitzer prize, then it's for real time to just pack up and be like, nope. Bye. I'm out It's time to suck a muffler at that point. Get fucking out of here. Yeah, I'm resisting the call of the woods almost every day. Oh, right? It's just Oh god, I like My cat my cat could live in the woods. It'd be fine. I keep fighting this because

every every generation this happens to every generation Like like very similar stuff happened in 1968 to what's going on right now. It's just more That wasn't quite the last generation though No, no, I'm saying that the like the closest corollary to our time is in the last days of nixon Yeah, whenever we had all of the vietnam war protests when we had so many people being beaten For protesting when we had all of this shit going on. Sure. Our president was blatantly corrupt and was Fucking committing crimes and may and may have set the template for what's gonna happen to our current president. Exactly. Exactly, right? So

We survived that so I keep thinking, you know what? Maybe we are over at overreacting. Maybe our institutions are strong enough to protect us against that But at the same time I am two seconds away from just fucking driving And just hoping that I get to the woods far enough away where it's like, ah, the nuclear bombs won't hit me Number one, if you do that, let me pack this shit up and come pick me up. Yeah, okay. Okay, but then second I I have two thoughts. We're gonna have to buy a generator That's fine Okay, I have an idea

solar panels, exactly. Uh, the second thing is, um, Two thoughts about your idea about generational, uh, shit. Yes, um I'm not sure if we survived the 70s necessarily That's a good theory. I'm not going with that. Well, I'm just not sure that the the right outcome necessarily happened I think that it got to a boiling point and then things got drawn back as opposed to being pushed over the edge Yeah, like we could have gone a lot farther in the 60s in terms of, uh, assuring progressive, uh

Movement as opposed to going back. Oh, no, no. I'm not saying we won right and I don't think that's a I don't think that's It I don't Here's what I'm saying. I don't think that that is a demonstration of the strength of our systems or anything like that or institutions But secondarily, I do agree with you that generations always feel that things are falling apart Yeah, but every generation has that kind of narcissistic tendency to think it's the last generation right and it Yeah, there you people should have some insight to that and be like, well, maybe it's not but at the same time Eventually one of those generations is gonna be right. Yeah, statistically speaking sooner or later. Yeah, probably someone will be right Yeah, exactly and the 60s they were right

They were our american history has never been the same sense No, almost everything that's happened since then has been a backlash to that Almost all of the conservative values and all of the conservative shit that goes on is in direct response to that Yeah, but you could also and stuff like that right is the fear that they have that they sell The kernels of the hippie shit that still exists in terms of homosexuality drug use Fringe art stuff like that is the stuff that they use as boogie men to be like that's not that's not american values You know, we got to support the family and blah blah blah communal living is bullshit Right all that stuff my my theory is that

The civil war Never ended Sure, that's that's Mike because we've been fighting the civil war long after it dude. No war is ever ended Think about it civil war hasn't ended Literally the korean war hasn't ended according to the north korean doesn't but doesn't get worse than that one Yeah, world war two hasn't ended. We still have nazis around Yeah, we still have nazis all of this isn't it weird it's 2017 and I wake up some days and I go I'm afraid of nazis all of this is still going on

It's not we're all we've all we've done in the same way that because we never Finished the deal in the 60s as it were uh, and that's not the only instance of stuff but like We because we progressives have blue balls. That's what you're really saying basically because yeah because we didn't close the door Uh, we have to and and in the same way needed an alec Baldwin speech And in the same way that like at the end of world war two We brought over tons of nazis because we knew that they had great expertise in certain areas Right use them as scientists and shit right because we never really finish anything

We leave it open and our chickens are are all here. They're all here. There's no finish like the problem there is that your in In no uncertain terms You're looking for a final solution I'm not like that's how do you finish that though Like if you're if you're talking about the progressives, how do we win? There's no win Well, here's because we're only going to we're only going to create more of this backlash. Well, let me let me

Say just in the case of world war two would I And it's bullshit because I do also recognize the pieces of our culture that have advanced because of nazis Yeah, that we brought over there's a lot of the moon That's one great example But there's a lot of stuff that we have benefited from because of them Our world wouldn't be the same if we didn't forgive some of them because of their genius You don't you don't make peace with your friends. You make peace with your end Right, but in in a perfect world

I think what you would have done is all of the people who were responsible for the atrocities people who were directly the ones uh being like Gas them up. Yeah, those those people you would kill all of them You'd you'd have trials for them and you would summarily execute all of them But then the people who were still sort of under the sway of the ideology You would do everything you could to re-educate and not in like a brainwashing way. Yeah, but you well I mean they were brainwashed. So it's a d brainwashing or however it is you'd like there would be a process that would have to You know, I'm not saying put them in a camp and de brainwash them

but like I'm not saying put them in a camp. I'm not let's avoid camps altogether when talking about world war two Let's not put camps anywhere near this But but internment concentration or de brainwashing provide provide people who were under a negative sway with the information And with the reality of like these Jews are not your enemies That this Nazi ideology is something you got swept up into and and just deconstruct every part of the ideology And but that's not how we work But like it's the same way with the drug war and it's the same thing and in the same way that this podcast

We can talk about how alex jones lies all the time and if someone actually believes him or likes him It's not going to help I yeah, well, I think I think that's different. I think that's different from my argument Okay, my argument based on what you've said is that it's very similar to the way that we Deal with the drug war in that rather than creating these situations to de escalate and to Educate people And again avoid using the word reeducate right rather than using those loaded term

Yeah, rather than using those strategies. We go for the punishment angle like with the drug war What we should be doing is building more rehab centers And what we are doing is building more prisons. No, it should be a two-pronged thing. It should be more rehabs and then more Oversight into doctors who are really loose with perceptions Those are the two things that would make a and those are the things that are going to go away because of trump's executive order how that works and uh trump believes that uh Duarte in the philippines is doing great things about drugs where he just kills drug users He is a literal murderer. Murderer. He has said publicly he has committed

Murder he said publicly that he has president with his own hand of the philippines Has said in public I have killed a man. No, I think what he said was at least three. Yeah He's he's he said he's murdered people. Yeah, like that's that's some that's some real dictatorship That's a fucked up and he was invited to the white house. Yeah, but you know like that That's uh, that's one of those hypocrisy things where look how many times have we had uh, Saudi leaders sure how many times Your point is well taken. Yeah fucking uh, what's his

Dumb face has a picture with him shaking hands with Saddam Hussein um the Yeah, fucking rough that's sociopath. We're looking monster. Yeah, we're going on but but the the point there is that uh We've we've spun off of it, but I I agree with you uh in that it is I don't I don't quite know where your argument is because your your point to the world war two thing has ever been finished

Well, yeah, but your point to that world war two thing was kill the people No, kill kill some of the people. Okay, like I don't think the the executions of nazis that we did do Were wrong. No, I don't I don't think the nuremberg trial outcomes were wrong necessarily I think a lot of people had to die because of the things they did I think a lot of people died because of the thing I think a lot more people should be executed because of crimes against humanity even people on our side In the history of the world, but but bush, but I'm saying that rumps felt we never do chaining Even fucking clinton clinton like I'm not working. It's not it's not how many how many civilians has obama killed sure sure

Yeah, he in the iraq war. We've killed more civilians than we have soldiers As much as he is a a politician in our world. It has good will Yeah, I think yeah, uh and did a lot of very positive things. You can't take away the war crimes No, he's every single one of them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah My further point is we never do a good enough job of dealing with the people who are beholden to negative belief systems Yeah, and that is super dangerous in the way in the same way that we never really dealt with nazis Even american nazis

Right during world war two and it led to people going underground and creating networks And now neo nazism popped up right and now it's being funneled into I mean, it's not the entire alt right, but it is a it is a piece of it. Well anti-Semitism was A hugely popular thing in the united states in the late 20s and 30s Yes, like one of the reason one of the people one of the big bogeymen for are the great depression Jews Banking Jews in in the united states Like one of the one of the things that is very important to remember is hitler assumed

We would be on his side Yeah, because a lot of his ideas were cribbed from american intellectuals and he knew that there were a ton of Weird networks of nazis in america. Absolutely, but look My just to put a button on my point so we can so we can get moving. Yeah I just I haven't I haven't been I wasn't on last week last episode So it's like I want to get into some shit man. I want to be a policy wonk today This is going to be a four hour four hour. Oh, I'll policy wonk all day, son so that like my point is

When these harmful ideologies pop up and I'm not saying conservatism is a harmful ideologies right now Right, but there's no there's no equivocation on that, but that's not the conservatism that has existed in the past That like there is When you talk about small government and you talk about states Having rights about a lot of things. Mm-hmm. You have a very You could have a robust argument there. You could have people on the other side that believe those things and it it's okay No, I know I'm I'm letting you talk. I'm letting you talk. I'm just making facial expressions. Keep going when you when I talk about harmful ideologies I'm talking about

I mean now it's definitely the alt right and they're going to Need to be corrected in the future That's a dog whistle to our more militant liberal friends. I don't think they have any of those I don't think there are any but That's our that's our ultimate failing in the past. There were nazis There were other groups that were in that that camp And and and to a certain extent sure if if the alex jones people want to come down on me I would say exactly the same is true of

People in al Qaeda or people in isis people who are Militant religious folk. Yeah And you know exist in christianity too But like those ices has more in common with the gop than I do right But those folks are the people who have The mentalities that we need to bust somehow and I don't mean bust in terms of like we need to get them and and kill them All or we need to brainwash them into our liberal way of thinking right because I don't care if they land on the right or the left when they land

All I care is they don't have a worldview that's based on bigotry and that's based not in facts Like those are the parts of it that are really troubling the nazis were not operating on a fact based system Right. They were basing it on hate Everything that was going on the pro vietnam folk in the sixties were operating on a very Non-fact based system. Yeah now the hippies were super into also a lot of non-facts But their non-facts were about Aquarius The the tenability of free love

Horology, horology is our way out of this right, but that's that's not a harmful Non-fact based system. I I think that's a fact based system that only leads to you fucking more people and buying a crystal That's not really negative. I think you I think you've stumbled onto what I would say Like the way that the way that you put it Uh kind of clicked something for me. We're really getting down to essentially my philosophy No, here's here's what I would say. Um based on what you've just said. I had a little a little brain click It is not progressive Conservative liberal

Democrat GOP. Yeah, right now our fundamental differences are reality Yes, one side Not one side. No, there is a side of people. There's delusional democrats and liberals all over the place the the sides are Reality versus non-reality. Yeah, that's what we are really fighting and that's why these wars haven't been finished No, because we're not we're not we're not fighting the right war. Nope. You and I are fighting

Yeah, you and I are not fighting a war of conservatism or liberalism or progressivism or anything like that We're fighting a war with a man who is creating reality And we're fighting that with reality Well, but then at the same time the because like I mean I don't want to peel the curtain back too far But like one of the reasons that I feel so convicted in my Fighting alex jones on his non-reality based system. It's because of your dog knock. I'm right. Listen He was a good dog The reason is because like it was in that buzz feed article and I couldn't fucking think I could not

Think that that quote is more accurate. He is the gerbils of 2016. Absolutely. He is and it's not about Russia taking over america. It's not anything about that He alex jones is a propaganda mouthpiece Of the american wing of a very dangerous global movement that's happening right now And it's going to continue and it's not like you said liberal republican conservative It's not about any of that. Anyway, we've gone too far down this rabbit hole. Let's get to our let's finish this clip We're in the middle of oh, are we in the middle of a clip? Yes. What show are we doing? I don't know This is about mike cernovich's sources

And that He's a great source of info on what he says. He is not cernovich's source I happen to know one of the sources he has it's in the white house. It's not non jr So they become a big investigation stop non jr from leaking information and I kind of conflated those two My point is the two, uh, you know, obviously Like each other. I'll sleep at that. That is not our source on much of this That's not our source on what happened to the treasury department. I can tell you It's from the treasury department because this is known in the white house

The white house wants this stuff out And fox news and cnn won't report it. So they give it to the big evil alex jones the big evil dr. Corsi As you know, of course, he's got three number one new york times a seller books probably changed the course of at least one election Probably two with a switch. Yeah, that's not a credit And he's got a phd in banking and is willing to expose all this So another big giant story we broke his propaganda is effective Uh, but like uh, so he's like don don jr wasn't the source and but let's just let's just say Like that was a wink and a nod to him still being right

Kind of yeah and being like i'm not really apologizing Yeah, but then he also says that like with this new story the one about fanny and freddy stuff He's like that's not our source. Our source is the treasury department Right every single thing that he says throughout the entire course of this is based on that tiny clip Right that I played of steve manucci. All right. It being interviewed by maria bartol aroma I'm not sure i'm saying her name great name though. It I you know what I think Let me confirm this. I I know i know. No, it's a barter aroma barter aroma You know what i'm conflating it with one of the characters in a comedy bang bang ongoing story

See because I was conflating it with uh, one of the assassin's creed characters, uh, bartolo, uh, romeo I was conf I was conflating it with pitcher bartolo colon It's cologne Jesus it's spelled like colon Anyway, I was complaining. Uh, I was conflating it with bartolo simpsono. We're mildly off the rails and that's We're way off the rail and that's appropriate because this is covering his 30 hour dumbass marathon Are we doing 30 hours of this? We are so it turns out that like his big thing that he wanted to talk about this

Fanny and freddy storyline is completely umpus bumpus. It's just nonsense. It's it's it's It's no it's it's bullshit. It's no good, but it's going to be the new narrative It's going to be I started to try it like as I listen to the show one of the things I'm trying to do is contextualize what he's saying Yeah, because every he's he throws out so much bullshit and I'm like Is this going to be a varsity storyline? Is this going to be a jv storyline? Or is this going to be a waypoint? You know like I'm trying to you're actually Editorial, uh, you're working as his editor at the same time. Well, I'm trying like you're you're uh, like if he was coming to you

With a novel. Yeah, you would be the guy going through it. Like no, this is your real a story. This is a side character Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's what you're doing. This is gonna be I think one of his really main narratives The the fanny may freddy mac thing. Yeah, because he's going back to it from two months ago Okay, and I think that he has he thinks that enough time has passed that no one remembers the bullshit He's probably right except for us except for you because we're wonks uh, and I think he's going to try and use the Assumed credibility of we reported on this in february right and use it to really reinforce this because the google story is sort of falling apart

They're gonna delist us. Uh-huh. That's a waypoint now. That's not a main narrative. No, there's no weight behind right He can he can wander off and then get back to there right now. I think the varsity story lines are going to be this and uh framing Hamdi ulakaya as a member of the federal reserve, right? Those are going to be the varsity story lines now I do like this like if I were him. I like this angle on freddy may and freddy uh, franny may and freddy Fanny freddy fanny freddy. Uh, I do like this angle because It is concurrent with the obama care repeal vote. So your narrative there

Just kind of slides in with the mainstream g.o.p. Which is accidental that obama care is failing and then you come in on your back end saying The reason it's failing is because they were stealing money from these people right and now trump americana is not gonna do that no now that is I think you're right that is accidental But I also think that's one of the big reasons this has legs Well because well, I mean it has even more legs considering like this is a day before We even knew that the vote was gonna go down. Yeah, and when God kill us all yeah, let's all so like they didn't even fucking kill us all anyways

I don't even care more legs considering like yeah, I the day even before the vote. I knew this Yeah, no, he looked into something real good. Yeah, but it's all based in nothing. It's so I mean, we'll see how it plays So is the health care act. Am I right now? You listen to me? Whoa, jesus. I want you to know something you pointed very strongly on my aggressive point That's a very aggressive point to me right now. I'm listening. We're playing games here. We're all we're all having to laugh But you know what you know what you know what jordan stop fucking laughing. Sorry. Stop fucking laughing Stop This is serious business. You know why alex jones has been fucking threatened

We need to respect that we need to respect that and I wish I could press play while I'm pointing at you You are you are I need you to escape from this character. You're playing right now I wish it got too far one day. There will be a way for me to start playing clips with my brain But for now I have to get out of character to press the button So what it will happen is you should just get a lapel mic. That's really the situation there or or the uh, wrap-aport Oh, yeah, the britney spears mics wrap port headset. We could definitely do that Donate to the show so we can get wrap-aport Thank you so much for joining us

We're getting doctors your own course. He lined up on the skype as we speak right now Investigative journalist it takes forever It's who broke a month ago that close to 300 billion just in the four years They were able to get into via our white house treasury connections The one on cd 300 billion dollars now. We have only gotten a portion of the documents It's probably gonna be a lot bigger and then minutian The treasury secretary and others got asked about it on mainstream tv and they said no, it's true Info wars is right

Well, of course, we're right. We got it from our sources And dr. Of course, he has a harvard degree in finance He's worked with donald trump He's an expert makes him reliable. That's why they hate us. In fact, I've been told It's this story and bashing the radical muslims that has them after me. They have the fellow reserve of new york board member suing me right now And i've been told stop getting into fanny may freddy mac Stop getting into the muslims back off life off or you'll be destroyed

Back off or you'll be destroyed It's it it sucks there. I want to actually uh roll this back because like I kept in a super long break at the end Just listen to this. It's fucking hilarious Stop getting into the muslims back off Back off or you'll be destroyed I just love that he like hits the table and Yeah, no way not not a chance manuchin is not an easier name to pronounce than ulukaya No, not at all. Why is it that he can pronounce manuchin perfectly every time not every time is it? Well, that's that maybe

He's he's done it enough that 75 he's done it enough that it frustrates that it's very obvious He's mispronouncing ulukaya's name on purpose. Well, I would say that the more Disrespectful thing is his first name is hamdi and he keeps calling him him eat. Yeah, that is way more Disrespective as it may just to just to recap in that clip. He does say that he's being sued by a member of the federal reserve He's not he's not it's a guy who he slandered who does not is not on the board of the federal reserve Not even close. Nope. He was an advisory committee guy uh in the upstate new york area The total horseshit So, uh, you know, he's been threatened

Alex's has and earlier in this episode we sort of dove into You know, i'm sort of turning on trump a little bit. Yeah, at least at the beginning He was saying these these like he might be going sideways Right, right. He's looked at the devil and he's you know, he's 70 percent now. It's a video game Uh, but he came really close to saying when you look in the abyss the abyss look back looks back shakespeare That would have been fucking great any classical quote. It's no shakes here. Uh, but Don't think he don't give me liberty or give me death Will shakespeare here is where he sort of makes it super confusing

I'll tell you it's very paradoxical best of times worst of times Will shakespeare that i just love trump and what he's doing on the economy and americana and sovereignty and battling isis and Bringing jobs back. I just get chills and then it makes it worse So if you already hate somebody they do bad stuff, it doesn't really hurt you you just fight them But when you really care about somebody and you know what they're up against you know, they're getting threatened You know, they're surrounded, you know, people aren't doing what he says that's been and then to see him start to capitulate And bring in globalists because they just weren't letting the government move. They weren't they had him in stalemate

They had him deadlocked And so he's now dealing with them and getting us something but giving up something and People aren't gonna put up with that. They expect stuff. He can't deliver Our listers want me a lot of them to tear into trump I'm just being a realist. I'm not endorsing what he's done. Yeah, you are But i'm not as quick as you know, even limbaugh to start tearing into him So like this is the way that when you are a dumbass leader and you're proposing things that go against Some of our most basic american values

But yet you have all three branches of government locked up and now the supreme court and yet you can't get shit done Right. This is the way you pitch the narrative that like Oh, this is why right because there's globalists behind the scenes. It's the cult leader. It doesn't matter It's the cult leader predicting doomsday. Yeah, and then doomsday not happening, right? So then well It's not I made a mistake Look, I misread it doomsday is two years from now. I missed a two in there. Yeah, exactly Yeah, no, that's in biblical scripture is tough to decode. I had the broad strokes, right? Yeah, but the details It's the devil is in the details and the devil in this situation is coming two years from now

Not today. So all that shit though that he's saying about like, you know, trump is going off the rails He's he's becoming globalist and and and shit. It does not jive with his like So I love this guy and he's and not I love this guy. He's the alpha male He's the alpha male who can do anything. Alex. It is always always always everybody else's fault Well, but you can never hold the the person accountable in alex jones's world that also cuts into his entire narrative Because he's done so much groundwork and laying the the sort of foundation for like trump is a singular man

He is a is a man against the globalist. Yeah, and so if he starts to get corrupted What alex doesn't want to deal with is the idea that The singular man isn't enough. Yeah, or whatever. Yeah, that would be really problematic for him I mean, what you would do is you would go straight towards putin because it sure seems like putin is a singular man enough to do this shit, right That may be what happens. That may be god. Damn it. Imagine that imagine if alex jones switches to like Well, it's putin the whole time. He's already had alexander duggan. Yeah, and he's been on rt Like he's he's got the groundwork laid for being like the only real

Anti-globalist is put so this next clip alex jones is trying to reframe trump like in as much as he's turning against him He's trying to reform him. I believe as as best as my ear can tell in this clip He's trying to frame him as a tolerant immigration reformer But it the uh Yeah, it doesn't it does not pass muscle Trump was always going to reform immigration but he's not gonna let criminals and lorica and quista anti-american islamists you name it come in or single moms

But we killed half our kids with abortion in this country. We're gonna have to replace the population We need to do it with people that are integrated into the america system He's building all weird and he is Going after people that are here illegally But but he's not what the media claimed he was some racist that hates everybody so

Just like a lot of christians and i'm a christian myself Sure God mad at him that he's not anti-gay once he got in that was the media saying trump was anti-gay And so a lot of super right wingers said oh great. We love trump and i was like hey guys. Did you see the convention? With trump saying let's be inclusive to everybody Except muslims aren't allowed in my country trumps a big tent and so That's the bottom line here is that we have a president for the whole country

Not just for certain groups or you know for small Trump sent him on to go out for a saunj absolutely terrible He told the saunj and others if you got more wiki leaks release them He told russia that one and out of saunj president trump indict yourself then that's ridiculous That's outrageous. I do agree with that last point that is like if you want to put wiki leaks on trial You will end up on trial. Yeah, of course But that's not what alex was saying the stuff they're doing now is very much like We're deciding who can and who can't be called news. Yeah, and that's that's a problem

Well again again because of that very same thing like if you're advocating that and you're alex jones Imagine what happens if you are alex jones and it's a liberal progressive politician with that same power sure Like you're fake news. You're the problem. Mm-hmm. You Could very legitimately be shut down on solid ground that idea of of trump's immigration stuff is just It's cocking me bullshit revisionist history revisionist history from a month ago. Yeah Yeah, god, it hasn't even been that long meanwhile alex just hasn't even been that long Meanwhile alex on his show keeps harping on like the idea that like the problem is no one has a memory like yeah You don't remember. Yeah, you don't remember what you said. It's every it's every

GOP person now who says like Oh, what are liberals protesting about? You know, whenever obama was president. We never did that shit We just accept it as president. You're just like to them burning Exactly. I know it's like what the fuck are you? Are you not paying attention now? I want to I want to say this in terms of validating people's feelings I think okay, some of those people who are complaining and saying we didn't protest when obama Came into office. Sure personally. Maybe they didn't true. Maybe they were tolerant And and god bless them for it. Yeah, but then projecting that to the the the society is not okay

Because when obama was elected it there was an insane backlash To to an extent where have you ever been to a gun show? No, I have please don't tell me anymore After just just fucking kill me before after obama was elected. Uh-huh. There were Frequently at gun shows that I have been to I mean I grew up in Missouri. Yes. Yeah I I never I bought a blowgun once just because I wanted to shoot paintballs at my friends, but like That is such a you move. I think I also bought like some sort of a stun gun So me and my friends could shock each other while we were drunk great, but uh

It was full of obama Uh Yeah, and then also weird posters of obama like photoshopped obama into uh, like weird old insulting racist tribal pictures The the obama with obama's face. Yeah, the whole thing like so I don't know like it doesn't work big picture But those people individually might be okay my my aunt told me this whole thing about how we when obama was elected Everybody hoped he would do well

And she absolutely did not remember all the racist shit. She emailed she herself said she herself emailed me Yeah, like so it's so fuck you. Yeah, I I and this is no memory. This is the worst part like Genuinely, there there was that narrative during the trump campaign where there was part of people were like, you know trump is lying You know, he's lying. So maybe he's lying in a good way Like maybe when he does get elected. He's gonna go back to that shit where he was Pro lgbt. I remember that to that whole because he used to be he's a secret democrat and he's never believed in anything He doesn't believe in anything. He doesn't have an ideology. He's just a fucking opportunist Yeah, he believes in his own brand being pushed and his family making more right right

So there's that there was that liberal narrative where it's like, well, you know what if he enriches himself But we also get single payer health care Fucking great You know that kind of a thing no the problem is he was lying to everybody in the wrong way Yeah, it's that deal with the devil never works out because the devil has interests. You don't even fucking understand But again, whenever he was whenever he was elected and on that inauguration day I

Knew shit was gonna go bad. Sure. But just because of that that didn't mean that I didn't Hope that it turned out well like I'm like Imagine if he had just turned out to be a pretty good. Okay, dude Like that could have happened conceivably. He's a liar. He doesn't believe in anything Maybe we find out that he just gives a shit about doing whatever he wants to do, you know, it's possible It was like I genuinely hope the president succeeds The problem I have is that there's no possibility of that He's a monster and he's trying to fuck us all using the republican congress who are filled with psychopathic monsters

Who are bought by rich people who are all psychopathic monsters? Well, the problem too is that like so i'm saying I hope our president does well Well, the well the problem is that like the world is so complicated and we're deeply entrenched in such weird situations So that like even the best person possible coming into office will inevitably do Monstrous shit. Yeah, just based on the last 50 70 right 100 years of history right like the trends that have happened have gotten us into position where you can't extricate yourself from Situations where you're going to end up murdering tons of civilians right foreign countries. No, it's just inevitable Obama Obama if he was not

Faced with those decisions Would like right now if you were talking to obama From 20 years ago and said, okay, would you ever kill a civilian? Who had nothing who not evil not a problem. He would absolutely like if you asked me Of course not. I would never ever kill a civilian And then you get into that political situation where your entire life could be Ba-da-da-da-da-da So you have to kill a civilian right and in my my point or your your least of two

Your lesser of two evils is killing people Yeah, and my point is that the best person is still going to do some really bad exactly and then when you get a con artist That's what i'm saying. I'm the best person right and even I would do that's what I was saying too Yeah, exactly, but then you get a con artist in there and you're going to end up with who knows who the fuck knows who knows so It's not gone well, but yeah, it's it's turned into my office pool In my head because there is no office where I live Like they the march madness for me is which doomsday scenario is going to win out which in the end

Which country is going to get new? Yeah. Yeah, exactly All right, is north korea really going to nuke us or are we going to do this or you know that whole thing Is it going to be climate change that gets us first or is it going to be like a fresh water? Or is it going to be the refugees moving too far in too many different directions that people have to start off Fucking war with each other or is it going to be any number of different possible doomsday scenarios and I feel like All of all of them are possible And if any of them happen all of them are going to happen. Yep, you know I do

So jordan you might be asking yourself. What would I be asking myself? You might be asking why the fuck Are they doing a 30 hour marathon? Oh, I I knew the answer to that question so fast. We need money so fast I have never asked myself less of a question than that. Alex jones has possibly a different answer than the truth Jerome coursey Here in just a moment, but before I do that we have kicked off and we've gone into the first 41 minutes here

ladies and gentlemen of our global broadcast That we will do for 30 hours what until five six o'clock tomorrow By the way, they're 41 minutes into their marathon. We're at two and a half hours on this podcast But to be fair, we covered that buzzfeed article for like half an hour Fuck you voice in my head To raise awareness and to raise capital and to reach new people the three goals are to rally our millions of radio listeners and millions of tv viewers and listeners online

To really commit every day on email on facebook on twitter on youtube in person at the grocery store at church at the synagogue At the rotary club at the golf course At the shop with your buddies are out hunting whatever it is at your bowling league to say this country's in trouble But we're starting to turn the tide globalism is is is in decline, but they're trying to destroy alex jones They're trying to destroy The few other outlets out there that'll tell the truth. We're under it. How fun would that conversation be? at the store or at the

At your synagogue, it's gonna be uh, it's gonna be 11 24 Um, hey look globalism is on the rise and they're trying to destroy alex jones Okay, also paper. So you're gonna pay with so you're gonna pay with the 20 dollar bill or I said paper Okay, I'm giving but there's a seventh cent back tax. I'm going to pay with fiat currency This is distributed by the federal reserve bank that includes a guy who's suing alex jones All right, I'm gonna need to see your id The id is a tool that is used by the globalist All right fine, then just show me your barcode and I'll scan that I am a sovereign citizen

All right, we'll get into that. It's fine. You just take your groceries and go Okay, so we need to spread the word about info wars. We need to spread the word about the articles and the videos and realize every day You see news we broke a week before a month before a year before You generally do see news that they've broken a little bit later I wonder why because it's debunked. Could you give me context for that? A lot of times you'll see like Oh, no, that wasn't true. A lot of weirdos think this is true There's a lot of fact checkers in the world and they they dig into stuff And you find out like oh no, this isn't true at all. Yeah, the problem is you can never fact checked before

alex jones releases something you have to fact check what he says afterwards Yeah, it's it's it's a really fun game. Although that would you know what actually that would be an interesting game to see if you could Like if you could predict the narrative that they would spin based on While that while you're saying it Right, so obama comes out and says give me a fake story and i'll give you the alex jones spin. All right, um Wait, the a fake story with alex jones spin or a real story that you're gonna you give me a fake real story You give me No, you give me just like a world news story and i'll try and spin it alex jones style. All right, um

six kids die in a Uh religious based attack in somalia. Oh, that's so fucking easy. That's so fucking easy. What is it? Just doing this in the alex jones voice might be hard Somalia has been a place since black hawk down. Uh, it's been under globalist control since then we all know that it's in public record Absolutely. I know this you go back to berry gold water. It's in the white papers. We all know this Uh, these kids they're a part of a globalist hillary clinton Solowinsky based are the kids even real that they're in a sex trafficking operation We all know that it's in the white papers. You check out hillary clinton's connection to haiti. It's all in there

They are real. They are real. It is very unfortunate and i've already forgotten what the actual story is. You nailed it You've got alex jones down. Well, all right, but so so here's my here's my here's my dream We're just pointing at each other now What was important about your fake real world news story, right? And I think is what alex jones does what I heard when you were telling me that story Right wasn't the actual story that you were faking what I heard was the country somalia, right? And I made connections to Various things through history, right? I heard there were kids involved, right?

And I know that there's kid trafficking that alex wants to promote uh or as a narrative Exactly in foreign countries. So I took the little things that he does and made the narrative out of it now Legitimately, I don't remember what you said, right, but so then and nor does he so then my my Like I guess I guess dream would be like imagine instead of giving people that headline You give them the headline with every piece of specific information and you need in it like the headline to that is um Radical sect of american influenced christians Murder children because they have

LGBT tendencies that they've showed since they were very young the angle that alt-right people would take on this story Is that it is this kind of globalist conspiracy? But instead it is not it is purely religious based on a christian ideology that has been twisted and warped Now that's the headline, right? I don't alex jones can't twist that headline. Can they I can't really sign off on this because I'm still thinking about those poor kids in Somalia God damn it those kids Anyway, there's always poor kids in Somalia. Anyway, uh, he's uh, he has more in this clip. Okay Word for word two months ago

Two and a half months ago Three months he publishes five six articles since then with fanny may freddy mac with the documents Looting up to 300 billion dollars That's only limited documents. He got it's bigger Looting we're on a course in a minute. They didn't publish document and it all comes out in mainstream news I'm gonna play the clips Exactly as we said with the treasury secretary saying We're right an info war is getting credit because dr. Corsi our dc bureau chief

He didn't say that at all But also I want to say this because it's super fun and it is sort of a call back to things that just keep happening For that entire clip, uh, Jerome Corsi was on skype silent So I love that his bloated face is just being complimented by alex and he's just like Like he wants to talk probably and alex keeps me like we'll get to your own coursey in a minute Like a manatee in an aquarium. Yeah, exactly or like a fish person at the side of the page With human terror human terror in his eyes human terror So I mean god, I love chimeras the implicit piece. Oh, also we got some nice twitter action

Like to give a shout out at at our friend who I can't remember his name who uh posted a picture of a mythological chimera Yes. Yeah. Yeah, I saw that that was terrifying. I did not realize that was the what you didn't know what a chimera was No, shit I knew what the idea of a chimera was but I didn't realize the mythical creature had three heads We're gonna have to different parts of its body. We're gonna have to play some dungeons and dragons here do it jordan Yes, one of the most important things that you need to know is that the reason That people in the mainstream media are attacking info wars That is an important thing to know. I need to know why I do want to know why I think alex can sum it up best

I mean, I have my ideas, but here's alex's take. Well, you're a globalist They are so scared of him and I've been told shut up about this or we'll be destroyed They've got six seven eight investigative journalists on me at all times making up crap right now They're trying to destroy my family right now Then why would you need to invest in New York suing me right now? Because they're scared of that guy in dc full time hiring a team one guy's already torn him up So all that was lies, but at the same time it's so fun because Jerome Corsi is on skype And he's just like they're scared of that guy

He's pointing at silent ass bloated face Jerome Corsi So great, but that's the problem there is that it's such a great visual if you put if you put steve bannon in there I'm like, yeah, I am scared of that bloated ass ugly mother fucker is ruining everybody No, no, but the bullshit is I'm scared of Jerome Corsi too. I'm scared of info wars too. The world isn't they're not paying attention I'm scared of this trend that info wars even though it's in the white papers. They should be paying I'm gonna start writing some white papers I'm gonna fuck around and write a white paper That's code for you had a very good day. I'm gonna write a book you fucked around and got a triple double

I'm gonna write. I'm gonna write a white book Not a white paper. Hey, hey, what how would you feel if somebody wrote a black book, huh? There was a great show that got bought by comedy central early on black books Yeah, starring uh the dillon mourn who we saw together who you thought was shit. I thought it was a snooze He was all right. I don't disagree. It was he had a rough. It wasn't a good show. It was a rough set. I believe he's funny anyway Uh, Jerome Corsi might cut in here. I can't remember Actually, I just remembered he doesn't

Now let's continue They're scared of info wars. They're scared of paul watson. They're scared of all my reporters. They're scared of the crew back there. They're scared of you Because we are a focal point like ron paul would always say don't give him credit He's just a focal point. He's coming up about 20 minutes. We're gonna go to Corsi in a moment But we're running a specials today to raise capital huge discounts as well It's a product bomb basically a super high quality products like a money bomb You can also donate at m4store.com $5 $2,200 whatever to get a bigger team in dc To be able to break even more news to get even more reporters to get more editors more video people more fact checkers to pay for

For the satellite to pay for legal to pay for legal to pay for legal Yeah, but pay for legal He could have just said to pay for legal a whole bunch But the comedy of him saying like what he said right before that like the pay for legal is I mean, that's it Yeah, that's uh, uh, you know to pay for legal no big deal But the comedy is right before he said to pay for legal. He said to pay for fact checkers. You don't have to find a fact checker You have someone who's like you have an anti fact checker. You probably have an intern who Tries to tell you this will get you sued this won't get you sued and their radar is off

Yeah, so I mean like there's no way he has a fact checker because like legitimately I took an hour of my day working on this fanny freddy story. Yes, and I found A bunch of documents. I found a bunch of stories that were well sourced about how their Interpretation and their version of it is wrong Then I found a Breitbart story that specifically was about how info wars is wrong That's crazy Like to to to imagine a world would be fired as their fact checker so fast to imagine a world where Breitbart has more editorial credibility

like emphatically more Credibility and it's in Breitbart's best interest in terms of the narratives they push To agree with alex jones 100% of course that is a that's what it's a step too far even for them Which I think is why alex is selling it as they told me to back off this story Right because that that story from Breitbart came out before this broadcast, of course So I think that it's like he's trying to sell the like even the right has turned against us on this Yeah, which is great

Which is good for him because if he's eventually going to turn against trump, which he has to Then that's a great angle to start taking is that even Breitbart and those guys are now wings of trump Yeah, so the more like if you start distancing yourself from trump then you have to start distancing yourself from Breitbart Probably because steve bannon is fucking steve bannon, but do you you understand? And I mean that in a very literal sense steve bannon has sex with steve bannon. He tucks all the way Oh all the way all the way but like it twists. It's curved. It's like gonzo's nose, but right up his ass I think you're actually wrong because in these earlier clips. He's been talking about how Uh, the turn came when trump took bannon off the security council

Okay, he's been talking about how like up until 71 days in or whatever Trump and bannon had an ideology and then that went away. Okay, so now his now his stuff is like pre-buss in the like Yeah, I think he's still on bannon tip. So like I don't I'm not sure what the disconnect from Breitbart has to be in order for him. Who cares? I'm not gonna war games this for him It could just be that he is fucking riffing and anything goes while he's randomly talking I think the bottom line is that he's acting like it's hour 35 of this telethon. We're at 41 minutes in. Yes so now

after After an absurdly long Uh time just on skype silent. He finally lets jerome coursey talk and i'm gonna play this clip coursey is going to lay out his sort of Version of what the story is. Okay, and I'll come bat clean up in case there's any subtle points that we haven't gone over already This is hard news. This is hard criminal looting that could bring down the entire democratic power structure And this is why the republican establishment is out to get us as well because they're part of it So dr. Coursey, thank you. Let's recap what happened and how big this is that two plus months. It's finally broken

Well, it's it's been a story. We've been working on because it's We found out that one a fanny and freddy is a two mortgage giants government sponsored entities in august 2012 The obama administration began taking All the profits from fanny and freddy and confiscating them. It's called the net worth sweep It's a complicated operation and I got in the middle of it and realized That what was happening was that congress the house specifically had refused

to fund the insurance premiums the subsidies for low-income families and Individuals under obama care boring and so obama care in 2012 was going to tank. It was going to Can be be completely bankrupt and wasn't going to work uh, and so What the obama administration did is they took this money from fanny and freddy

And diverted it without announcing it illegally Into paying the obama care How is that a legal subsidy and that's amazing obama care was what a year old They gave you and used it to pay for things. That's what it was in the process of failing because the house refused to appropriate the money To pay these subsidies without being able to pay the insurance company Yeah, but he's ascribing, uh, the nefariousness to the wrong source Yeah, well because the house republicans refused to do the thing that they were supposed to do again Just to remind you because we talked about this like an hour and a half ago

Even for the listeners. I want to I want to point out that what he's talking about is this thing called the net worth sweep and it started in 2012 He said those things Jerome course. He said those things right now. Let me explain that to you Again, I read this paragraph a little bit ago on bright part in mid 2012 treasury and the fhfa Agreed to change the terms of the bailout so that fanny and freddy would no longer have a fixed dividend Ending the need for circular draws Instead each company would have a flexible dividend obligation that would rise and fall with their profits Because the new dividend, uh, is equal to the positive net worth of each company

Less uh less a capital cushion set to decline each year It is known as the net worth sweep the net worth sweep is Sweeping up part of their net worth based on how much they make each year. It's not it's not anything nefarious It's in order to make sure that these companies don't End up destroyed by their repayment to the government right like when like it's how Fox and nbc and the like need their highest ratings during net worth sweeps. Well, that's the come on now That's a fun cognate. I enjoy it. I enjoy the word I love your abs you liar. Don't you say you enjoy it with that face. I enjoy it

I gave it a shot. I failed. I need I need come I like I need constructive feedback as much as anybody else and I like Clearly I was wrong. I like puns. Look I am a lot like alex jones in which I am willing to admit when I am wrong and I will retract that pun Okay, well I am going to apologize sincerely to chobani yogurt. I'm going to give you the most generous birth I'm going to let you have a lot of leeway because that clip was so boring. It was so boring It's very hard to listen to jerome coursey. I can't do it right. How is he part of this? He's worse than david night. These people are so bad

Well, it's just because his name rings out in racist circles Like people who really like the idea that he was on that birther s*** People who love his work in the swift boat like that sort of stuff. They they love jerome coursey So the fact that he has he has credibility, but he has his credibility in that circle. It's fucked up He has bullshit liar credibility. So this is where we leave the wednesday show and we transition to thursday And now we go back into thursdays. Yes, and we've covered a lot of going back to the future He we already talked about a lot of the buzzfeed coverage and that takes up a lot of the thursday show, right? But thankfully I have cut a number of clips that are just good clean fun from thursday

Okay, and it's I wish that he had stayed up all night and really been involved Uh, but he he hasn't it. He went to bed. Obviously. I mean, he's he's well rested Naturally, but at the same time he's fucking out of his game There's some really really dumb s*** that he says, right? So one of the one of the stories he's telling, uh, is about It doesn't even matter. It doesn't even matter. It's it's a tertiary piece of news That's about some random one of the stories. He's telling is about Insert alex jones story right here. It has to do with being mad about david roccafeller. Who's dead and like naturally What he's up to beyond the grave and you know, the the health secretary from the 1990s

Um, I'm still pretty pissed off at janet rino. Why not bring her in jocelyn elders jocelyn elders? Absolutely Let's get rid of her further. He has like a lot of ideas about the british nobility and I cut out a lot of that There aren't a lot of ideas Well, because he thinks that they come from like german transylvanian stock and they are they do But he thinks that that means that they're first of all vampires and then second of all little different But maybe the illuminati stuff all the bavarian illuminati. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's insane And it's not it's insane. No. Yeah, don't don't walk back that the bavarian illuminati are That's two words right next to each other that will always be insane. I love bavarian chocolate though. I love illuminati chocolate

And chocolate allu So here's the first clip i'm going to play from the thursday show. This is our episode for sweeps weeks. Uh, uh, I'm uh, a little bit of my francophone I speak a little bit of french and I love french Yes, you do like france. I love france. You don't really like france. I do I do Okay, I I took many years of french in high school and i'm still conversant in it not fluent certainly, right? No, I I did the same I understood what you were saying if you asked me to speak back to you I'd be like nah, anyway

j'adore la france Uh, I I I do I will never be able to get the simpsons phrase out of my head Which is the french are cheese eating surrender monkeys It will never escape my brain. It's a good turn of phrase I don't believe I don't believe any of it And if historically the french have won far more victories in battles and all that shit But god damn it if cheese eating surrender monkeys isn't perfect Well at this point the french election still has not happened when we post this it probably will have but

We are we are podcasting prior to what could be the end of the e.u And the world but we're both firmly on the side of macron. Uh, but firmly As opposed to the alternative exactly i'm not i'm not super in his camp, but right the alternative is a disaster agreed So anyway, alex jones is super into le pen and here is some thoughts about her and her dad Oh, no, not her dad her dad's bad because germany's running the e right now and the globalists run germany That's absolutely a fact and the french know that So she destroys Macron we're doing the 007

He's the daughter of a world war two hero fair trooper indeed a that won france's highest award and england's highest award and high awards from united states And her dad was demonized for being a french patriot not letting the muslims take over and it's got to be sweet victory for him To now see his daughter about to be president It's got to be sweet victory sweet sweet victory victory for Jean-Marie le pen Let me ask you a question. Did he support vici france? Let me tell you a little story I think it might this is this is a tiny piece of his troubled history Jean-Marie le pen is

A fucking monster. Okay, but listen to this. Yeah, this is this is from a nice guardian article And and and this is Admittedly a tiny piece right of his monstrousness right marine le pen who took over the party the national front of the front nasa now fascists Yes, she took over legally They are fascist she took over the party in 2011 and is running for french president next year. This is the sort of Yes, yeah a little in the past She had led a public relations drive to detoxify the party and move away from its jack booted imagery and anti-semitic overtones

Which are very real. Yeah after years doing it With anti-semitic undertones after years of working alongside her father in april last year She blasted him for being quote in a total spiral of strategy somewhere between scorched earth and political suicide He in turn attacked his daughter's criticism of his gas chamber comments Do you want to know what those were Do you want to know what his gas chamber comments were you already said gas chamber comments? If marie le pen Is saying don't say those gas chamber comments

I don't need to know what those gas chamber comments are because the worst is they start with Good for gas chambers and it even gets worse from there. Like that's the best best case scenario He said gas chambers weren't that bad John marie le pen the former leader of france's far-right front national has once again been convicted of Contesting crimes against humanity for saying that gas chambers used to kill jews in the holocaust were only a quote detail of history There we go. There it was Gas chambers, which is not that bad Which is actually no big deal

Which is actually not as bad as some other people within the front nasi now Because they are people who say that like There's no way zyklon b was used that right like that gas chamber shit is a myth right that sort of stuff Well, he was still he was he he was a politician. He was still a politician He was a monster, but he wasn't going to tell all the truth Yeah, he was he was the head not like some functionary right if you're a functionary you can say that shit because you're like I'm not running. I'm just I'm doing data entry here. All right. All right. Uh, so anyway, fuck it I'm gerome coursey who gives a shit he attacked

He in turn attacked his daughter's criticisms of his gas chamber comments saying quote god don't ever say those Saying quote you're only betrayed by your own Then in an interview the same month with the river roll Notorious far right weekly. Jean-Marie Le Pen defended Philippe Patin The leader of france's nazi collaborationist vichy regime during the 1940s called it who was convicted of treason after the war Called it. So he's a guy who's so called. He's a guy who's like he's a nazi you didn't call it You knew that like it but that's just where we were getting to I know I didn't act I didn't know anything about him other than I knew marine le pen

uh is Was a fascist and I knew her father like I knew that She and her father disagreed But from everything that I've read about her it is purely don't really disagree. It is purely Like whenever she said He has no strategy That was the thing that I glommed on to yeah because or his strategy is political suicide. Yeah. Yeah, it's not I disagree with him. No, it's that he's doing it wrong. This is unmarketable

Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I don't I don't disagree with advertising to to children that smoking is great I disagree with how you're advertising to children that smoking is great. Yeah, make the advertisements more like a brightly colored Yeah, you need cartoon characters bugs bunny used to smoke. Why not do that again? You know that kind of thing also bug button used to cross dress He did trying to push that trans agenda globalism Uh, so john marie le pen is a fucking monster. Yeah of history. Yeah, and I don't want to take away from whatever Like military service. He has I don't know about that who gives a fuck exactly He's a monster. It's incidental to the fact that even after the fact he has

publicly and very emphatically supported the nazis in world war two And yep the front nazi anel is a part of that He was the leader of that party for a very long time the entire length of it And she is now the leader of it although recently she stepped down after the first part of the election the first round She stepped down as the front national leader as a pr move because she realized I can't detoxify She has to distance herself from the party, right? Even though she still believes every single fucking thing that they believe most of it

But instead of like anti semitism the big front now is anti islam stuff, right? So, I mean the flavor has changed, but it's the same dish. Yeah, basically I'm glad that uh, I'm glad that we know racists can uh can grow and change At least they can have some evolution. So this this next clip is just like who's the next enemy After islam. Yeah, I mean there won't be one. We'll all be dead. That's a good question I think we're just ending it you think so I don't know Well, like this is what I keep thinking about like this idea that because there's always going to be another terrorist

No, but think about this like this this is the thing that I keep coming into like I listen to alex jones every day And I know i'm so sorry Well, the the thoughts that range through my head are so varied like it's sometimes it's anger Sometimes it's this guy's an asshole, right? Like it's very but you've correctly summated this podcast One of one of the things that I keep coming back to and I I really can't figure it out like if I've sat down Uh, I've been in the bath. I've been very contemplative and I've tried to think about like What what is like What's the positive end game because like the end game realistically is probably a massive war like if you look at the real world

Yeah, but like if the the positive end game that alex seems to be pitching against the globalists and all this like Let's say we take the globalists out, right? Are we then living in a utopia like what what is the what is the world after the globalists, right? And I don't I don't think he has a coherent vision of it. Well, it's it that's it's just the free market But then if the free market exists, we're going to end up in the exact same or globalist We're going to end up in the same situation. We were in with exploitation, right, especially of third world countries That's right. That's an implicit part of of capitalism and free capitalism. Well, that's why Without regulation. The GOP can't govern without regulation. You end up with slavery. That's just how it works

like even in our own country within Very recent memory. We had child workers in mines, right because Industries weren't regulated. That's just kind of how it works. So you get rid of the globalists and then nations have sovereignty but I don't know if that really gets us to where we want to be like I don't There's no coherent vision for where they want to be There's only a vision for where they what they're against how they don't like now, right? That's it, right?

So now things were ideally better in the past. The thing that thing that drives me insane about labor day is that people never celebrate the fact that Thousands of people died. Sure for you to work eight hours a week. Yeah. There should be a recognition of that. There have been so many Murders because people wanted to go from 10 hours a day six days a week to eight hours a day five days a week Thousands of people have died for that. There were legit riots and murders. Absolutely. There were fucking Governments were overthrown. Yeah We've we've destroyed so many things just so labor has even the slightest bit of control

And we recognize none of that. Nope. And we want to take it away Yeah, the the argument against unions that you hear from people always comes from like anecdotal stories of Yeah, I had to get this thing done and I had to wait like a week for this guy because he was in a union Right, right and he didn't even work as hard these lazy union guys. Yeah, exactly. That's always the that's always the argument there And I was trying like I told my dad. I was like, yeah You understand though that those guys Those very same guys fought and died

And even though you're not in a union You benefited from that or you only work eight hours a day and he was like, yeah Well, we needed them then and I was like, no, they are always fighting against you You just don't know you're always fighting against them. Well, yeah, that's that I mean, that's that's basically the reality Of the world is that like the fights fights happened in the past to create systems where People can survive right and as time goes on you forget about the fights And you forget that the fights led to the current state that we're in and you start to become complacent And you're like, why do we fucking need that? Right? Why do we need that? It's just bullshit. Well, then

As is happening now It's going to keep happening right all that shit's gonna get rolled back and we're going to realize we need to fight again And we're like, ah, shit. We just should have never let it go away. Well, the the thing is this The rich are always fighting against us Sure, and we are only fighting against them when we get pushed too far, right? That's it They are always like even after they're even after the great depression and f dr Raise their tax rates up to 90 percent, which no one speaks about

Yeah, no one ever says that it was that high. They're like, no the rich should be taxed at a progressive tax rate Nobody's like well after fucking the great depression. It was at 90 percent It is it is never talked about that even from that fucking day They were already working to undermine that shit. Of course from day one They have always been fighting and that should always be understood. We thought we won now And we don't win because we're not always fighting. Uh, we will be uh, it's coming but Jordan Let's let's have some fun

Let's have some fun. This next clip is fun Okay, it's i'm excited now. It's weird This is the alex jones. I love it's one of the it when I heard this I was like what because it's kind of in response to uh, steven colbert talking about uh Trump being right right putans butt boy cock holster that sort of stuff. Yes. Yes

It's also sort of in response to these ideas that his anti uh, adam schiff rant was homophobic He's kind of parceling all that together. Right and this this is so fucking weird. Okay. It's so weird and It's I just don't know what to say beyond it's weird. Yeah, I mean if you say that trump is putans butt boy It doesn't mean you're bashing gay people Universally, it means you serve that person You're on bottom is what that means and every gay person knows that and the media knows that

And it's all just a cult of beating everybody over the head No And turning liberal class people into higher society that we bow down to and I don't like it. What I'm sick of it Okay, I don't care if you're homosexual or heterosexual You don't sexualize kids and you leave people alone and you don't force people I'm sick of gay harassment is basically what it is And I don't just like gay people. I mean liberal establishment hollywood gay mafia that a lot of liberals talk about It is just in your face and you've got to bow down to

and You have to bow down to the gay mafia that the liberal establishment is always talking about I think he recently just learned about ruPaul's drag race or something like that There has to be like something popped up on his tivo And he was just like what is this? Oh my god. Wait a second queer eye for the straight guy The straight guy needs no queer eye What is fucking happening? I don't know and we're not nearly done with this. What is he talking about? He's done with gay harassment. What from who?

It's so obvious what he's talking about like his gay harassment is towards gavin mcginnis. Well, like no, like The term gay harassment Harkens into your mind or home harassment. Well, it You would think it would be legitimate gay harassment is like if If I was at a bar and a gay dude came up and grabbed my balls and was like you like this, right? And I would go that's harassment if gay dudes treated you like many straight dudes treat women Exactly. Yeah, it would be sexual harassment. It would have nothing to do with your gender Right. You you think that that's maybe what he's talking about, but it's not what he's talking about is the societal idea that people force you to accept

Gay shit or whatever and he's gonna speak more on it and it's fucking weird. It's so weird I don't understand how someone can feel victimized by someone else's expression of themself, but alex does and it's I like I said, I don't know how to describe this other than weird because it's not really bigoted it is But it that's not It's more confusion. It's for it's far too confused to be bigoted Like our our connotation of bigoted is

You know what you're doing right and in this situation. He's like somebody who's bi Who isn't sure yet? Well, I mean, I don't want to put that in his mouth. I know I know but like It's it's I'm just saying that it's it's a hundred percent definitely more confused than because You nailed it. I think in that like bigotry often Like there's intent involved. Yeah, there's like well just like our our lie versus our lie versus stupid Right argument is always a lie is something you intend to deceive with right and stupid is you're just deceiving because you don't understand Right where this is confusion versus bigotry Yeah, and he's squarely on the side of confusion now

That's not to say he's not a bigot because he certainly is we've already established and proved that many times But in this clip what he's expressing is just straight confusion. Uh-huh and he just listen to the rest of this put up with And go along with you know neighborhoods would want a Heterosexual pride day with naked men and women humping each other driving through the middle of neighborhoods Why don't you think pride day is anymore? Do you want a homosexual in doing? I mean we got to stop. What's that? What's that? We got to stop already. I've been to like I've lived in Chicago for seven years I've been to like I think five years. I've gone to pride. Yeah, and uh, I mean

Have there been uh naked people fucking each other in the streets? Never never there's there's never even been nudity I've even been to the naked bike ride and it hasn't been that dude But there's there's never been nudity. There are like shirtless greased up dudes and stuff But that's not the entire parade. There's also and I would hope if there was a her hetero Uh hetero pride day there would be naked chirped up uh greased up dudes But there's also like civic organizations just joining in and you know celebrating It's not like it's not all gay by all means it's it's and By the way this premise of your neighborhood doesn't want this parade in it

Parades never go through neighborhoods The chicago gay pride parade goes down halstead street, which is Uh, basically the downtown street of lake view. Well, I grew up in a very small town Addison and and and baumont and Halstead, right? Basically just that loop, right? That's not I mean It's a neighborhood in the sense that people live there, right, but it's a business district essentially It's not it's not a neighborhood in in the sense that most people in america think of it like residential That's the point because I grew up in a small town And I didn't have a pride parade. No, we didn't have a pride parade, but we had parades

Yeah, and so if you are somebody who grew up in a small town or who still lives in a small town And somebody's telling you about pride parade To you that doesn't mean what it does to us living in a city where we've experienced this sure much like alex jones Talking about what college is like exactly exactly to you. That means I saw a marching band with dicks everywhere Right, that's what it's a that's what your mental image your version of a parade is like the high school track fields Exactly, and there's the band is going around in a circle, right? So of course that is so of course with your narrative of what the pride parade is it never Connects to what it actually is because you've never experienced it. Yeah, it's super bizarre

Like my only complaints that I've ever had about the pride parade is like this isn't gay enough Like I've always left the pride parade being like I didn't see a single dick I don't know what's going on here. I think that a lot of people are co-opting gay identity I have a little bit like I'm like the stuffy old dude, but I'm not a part of the community I'm like No, it was gay or back when I was a kid like that kind of thing

I don't know why but like So to me this rings this the gay the pride parade has gotten too mainstream this ring too many people support But like even what was it back in uh, 2015 when uh, like the supreme court Made their ruling about gay marriage the day before pride in chicago Yes, and I remember that and it was such an awesome party But even then it wasn't just people fucking on floats like it wasn't no It was a wonderful celebration and everyone hugging each other. It was just great. It was a it was Like not to sound trite, but it was a human pride day totally where it wasn't about being gay

It was about accepting Everybody now alex is going to get into other parades. I feel like we skipped over the fact that he said trump Equals butt boy. Well, we'll actually get back to that. I put but that's all I want to talk about put a pin in that Because it's coming back But alex for now is going to get into more parades that I think are bad examples. Okay I mean normal parades for the vfw or the military or football team Or st patty's day are fun and you take the kids out. Why is it? So like every time I've been to st patrick's day parade, you know how you know how fun it is for children on the st

patrick's day parade chicago with drunk ass assholes throwing shit around Literally, I've seen dicks every time I've gone so many times because everyone's just pissing on the street Yeah Now granted maybe at the gay pride parade people are pissing on the street too But they every time I've I've never seen a dick because everyone has the discretion to go in an alley I have I have seen drunk ass dudes in green Throwing up on the street pissing everywhere. No, I don't know vfw marches or military marches. Maybe they're good sex On st patrick's day in a bathroom that I've ever seen on gay pride

Also, what's super cool is if you live in a big city, they have police blotters and like blogs that keep track of You know calls to the the police. Yeah, and if you look at it, I've actually done the some research on this I don't have the specific numbers in front of me But the numbers for like the black hawks win when they won the uh, the stanley cup two years Uh, actually the the the cubs win the world series was shockingly devoid of tons of crime Uh, that one was was well, I mean, it's a once in a it's a once in a lifetime experience You're not gonna commit a crime. You gotta you gotta live it up You would have thought that that would lead to tons of crimes. Hey, you know, it's weird

But the the black hawk celebrations st patrick's day, uh, these are consistently they have way more crimes than gay pride Right as ever. So like the idea, of course, they have so but that premise is flawed on its face. Now, let's get back to it Gay parade a bunch of naked men swinging their weenies around excuse my french And I look dude, just go do it your bedroom at least say It's like if you want to say excuse my french You go out to dinner with your friends and they keep kissing and french kissing at the dinner table in front of you And it's not that you're even upset about it. It's grandstanding It's like get a room

What One thing if somebody's leaving and you know, they kiss their girlfriend or their wife or their husband by or You know, some of that's going on or somebody just got married But everybody knows the couples you've gone out with and they start macking down in front of you and grabbing all over each other And it's like a show-off thing and the word is those are the couples that aren't doing anything, you know in bed what What the fuck are you talking about? It's the same thing No, it's not you'll just be sitting there in a hotel lobby with your kids and two dudes are grabbing each other's rear ends

They're all over each other french kissing I am so pissed off because at this point at this point my recorder Like glitched and I I lost the next thing Oh, no, but he says about these dudes in a hotel lobby grabbing their asses They're doing it just to show off Let's let's like legitimately the ring of like Oh, I just want to have one experience with a dude like that's what that it's it sounds so much like Uh these two people it definitely sounds like that it sounds very gay

But like let's unpack the logic that he's using So let I mean the parade stuff is in the past and so now he's using this idea of you go out with your friends and You know this guy going out to dinner a couple and they're just kissing the whole time You're a third wheel that's fucking that is rude and you're like Jesus I came out to eat dinner with you guys and you just keep making out at me We agree that that's rude It's rude whether it's a guy and a girl or two guys or two girls. It's rude or you name it I'm not sure the point. He's making

I don't think he's making a point I think he's trying to track that to gay pride parades Yes in terms of being like that's the equivalent of thousands of people making out in the street. Yeah, or some shit Yeah, and it's It doesn't work you're you're a lonely old white man and all of these people are enjoying themselves at you Yeah, yeah, that's right. That's what it is. That's what he's that's what he's arguing at me. Yeah. Yeah now hold on This rant isn't done. I told you my recorder glitched out a tiny bit. I lost that chunk, but it picked up immediately Okay, here's the end of this

You're running around Hopping around Trying to get attention for yourself And I for one I'm sick of And when I say something like Shift being a globalist butt boy The media says I'm being homophobic

When if I wanted to be homophobic, I would say horrible things. I don't I'm a libertarian What my speech is is very clear doesn't track at all. And by the way, trump is not putin's butt boy Trump has become the butt boy of john mccain and lindsey graham and congressman peter schiff Just for fun Trump has become the butt boy of john mccain And just to be clear his name is adam schiff not peter schiff. Uh, you should hire a fact checker I think he was talking about peter king. Maybe I don't know

No, it's obviously because he did that whole rant about schiff. Yeah, I guess I guess he was but I love I fucking love that like if I wanted to be homophobic, I'd say Yeah, like I'd say horrible shit dude. You do you nailed it. Yeah, you don't need to start now You got that shit on on Just on the back burner. Come on, man The idea of like gay people exist in public and I'm sick of it That is horrible. Yeah, like that. Yeah Just that if I wanted to be homophobic, I would say all the shit. I just said

Um, so we got we had two more clips, jordan Okay, uh, the first one is another narrative that he was trying to pitch on the thursday show that is stupid And then the last one is one of the most unfortunate. He just he just said trump is the butt boy Of john mccain and the globalist. I just I just want to stop it right there. Yeah, and I I don't want to take him out of context Because within context he said trump is the butt boy of john mccain. That's gonna get worse That's my favorite thing. It's gonna get worse trump is the butt boy of john mccain

So here is this why isn't that in the mainstream white papers, huh? Hold on wait for it because be a coiled spring Okay, the the next clip I play after this one it'll that's when we can really tee off Okay, but this one is another dumbass narrative that he's pitching. It's about bill nye the science guy great bill nye the science guy edited it out in the second airing that science guy edited on your t-vos You let go in and do this and on your dvrs where they said that chromosomes determine the sex So that's that's transphobic to say that chromosomes Create sex. No, it's in your mind. You see

So it's hurtful to say this is happening So here's the thing that's going on there. He thinks that uh, he's conflating gender identity with genetics Gender and sex basically right, but at the same time so did this episode that bill nye put out in the 90s Yeah Because well because science evolves. Yes. Yeah So he doesn't there was a meme that was starting to go around on the right wing reddit

About trying to point out that bill nye is a hypocrite because He said this then and now he says this right But if you actually look at the quote that they used it what it was not a quote They just misquoted the old episode right and then further they didn't actually watch the new episode because this is from One of the human sexuality episode of bill nye saves the world his new new netflix special Science is the process by which we understand nature by which we understand our place in the world how we all fit in We used to think it was pretty straightforward x and y chromosome for males

Two x's for females, but we see more combinations than that in the real life And even for people with just two sex chromosomes hormones can vary widely. So can anatomy That's uh, what makes someone male or female is not so clear cut So even in his new episode, he's discussing how science has progressed since the nineties and Giving you the scientific explanation for what like even when I was in high school I understood that there were people sometimes who have three chrome right x x y and that counts as yeah There are there are people like that even tribal groups understood Intersexed people right they're like if you go look into native american

understandings of culture they have seven eight genders right you know like all all this stuff Now maybe that wasn't based on science, but you can't you can't punk bill nye for this the point being bill nye said one thing In the nineties and at that time it reflected what he thought Or what the prevailing scientific knowledge at the time was yep now Amazingly over time that has been revised and revised and revised Which is what science now what bill is saying is something that reflects

The scientific knowledge of the time well, this is which is how Science works that's what the anti science crowd doesn't understand Is that like one of the most important pieces of science is a lot of it's up for debate right and things like But you do a bunch of experiments and that's how you come up with a theorem or right Like it's it's never a hard and fast rule Some piece of evidence might show up in the future that changes the experiment Yeah, it might change what you're understanding and then everything gets re-evaluated right But it's not like that's that's the myth that I get from

Right-wing people i.e. my family all the time, which is that if you believed something then And now it's different That means you're that you don't believe in anything right as opposed to your current belief Invalidates your past exactly and your past belief invalidates your current belief You're a flip-flopper of the highest order exactly whereas if you are if you are just a physicist right Then you say force equals mass times acceleration And that's true, but it's true most of the time right and then einstein came around and he said e equals mc squared Which is a very it's a uh

It's a kind of condensation of that same formula. It doesn't invalidate The prior force equals mass times acceleration adds to it adds to it. Yeah, so it is not that I don't Think that that prior stuff applies It's that now it is more specific and now it is more accurate and that is what science is It's striving for more accurate not striving for changing its mind back and forth on this and this and this It's that within the available information we have This is our best summation and i'm not a scientist and i'm not like that that part of my brain doesn't really work all that well But I know a lot of people who are of that. I have some friends who are doctors and what have you and and

all of them The essence of what they're into is that like at any time everything can change Yeah, and everyone I know who's ever done a study is like well, we're looking at this We're not beholden to the outcome right and if we're proven wrong. That's even more interesting right So there's nothing better than being proven wrong because then you learn something everybody thinks that science is like really stuffy And like no, it's all about brah-brah-brah-brah equations Right, and it's not in the same way that logic. It seems really dry and it's not right. It's Or or just there's an art to both things and they're alive. They're alive, right? They're not static, right?

It's and it's insane, but that's insane to somebody who believes that an ideology is static No, but that's what's fascinating Yes, because we can take alex jones's beliefs back to Like when he was in the 90s and his beliefs are static right about the globalists and what have you right? So his frame of reference for everything has been set since bill and I made that first episode right now culture has grown information knowledge has grown around him And his

Belief that no there is a group of evil people who are trying to destroy us all they're trying to use this Eugenics-based system and all this that has never changed right so for him It does look like people are just constantly Flip-flopping around exactly and that's stupid it it looks like a you know It's a zealotry the climate denier argument is always like well, you know in the 70s They said we were cooling and now they say we're heating exactly and you're like no that's you're you're Misrepresenting what they said because you didn't understand it then right you dismissed it out of course And then now it doesn't seem like they're saying the same thing

Even though you didn't bother to look into it because you've already dismissed it if you use headlines and buzzwords It looks like someone is saying the exact opposite thing of course But if you look at the science if you look at reality if you look at the math like the math is always true Yeah, it's so frustrating. But anyway Throughout this 30 hour Broadcast and our 30 hour podcast. Yeah, we've done about 10 of their broadcast

Uh, they they have spouted a bunch of bullshit And like like I said, we don't need to know what old shroyer did during this broadcast We don't need to know what lionel did Did what did uh, what did did millie weaver have anything to do? I don't think so. How about leon macadoo? How about your dearest love? I don't know. I don't I don't remember. I I didn't see her if she was on I didn't see so it was an all dude Tell a thought. No, no, there were some ladies. There were some like, uh Just weirdo ladies

That he had special get I don't even remember their names. Okay. I have no idea. All right people in the world of like I don't know why I remember his name, but there's a guy named jerald salenti. He's another like frequent Because you love names like that. Yeah, it's a good name. Yeah, but there are other like there were some ladies who came on Female ron paul's what have you but we started the chef least we started this episode with that buzzfeed bullshit Yes, and then once we got to the actual Alex jones's broadcast He started to spout some

Uh misgivings about trump. Mm-hmm and there were signs in him that he's moving away from trump. Mm-hmm Now this last clip that i'm going to play I want this on the record Because I think he's gonna walk it back eyebrow rays. I think he's gonna walk this back and pretend he never said this But this is my parting shot and perhaps the most important thing. I think he said during that 30 hour broadcast And so the truth is Trump Is the johnson holster for the warmongering neocons and democrats

Trump is The johnson holster of the military industrial complex Good luck walking that back. What's the johnson holster like a dick like a suck in their dicks Oh, he was just using a euphemism. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So so what so what uh, so Colbert said cock holster something like that Something like that. So he's saying that trump is the cock holster for the military industrial complex. Mm-hmm Boy, there's no walking that back though. It doesn't seem like it. You pretty much said Donald trump your friend

holds His mouth and anus open. Mm-hmm in order to be inserted Uh with the pinai The respective penises you don't think the military industrial of the military industrial you don't think they just have one dick Um, I would assume that they're a team So, uh in context, uh that cock holster comment. Yes, I'd like to put that I'd like to frame that in juxtaposition Of this something he said

Back in february, you know, I've admired ron paul and known him and been a friend I guess for 20 years I've been interviewing him 21 years Maybe friends the last 10 But it's not the same as it is with trump Trump is so fire-breathing so energetic so Tunning so real and he's having results so amazing

That it just makes me Be endeared to trump. I'm ready to die for trump this point. Oh, and I'm already ready to die for america It's the same feeling you have for america because he is america. You're america. Well, so Fire-breathing cunning trump is getting some cocks in his ass. I'm ready to die for trump trump is america You dumb dumb son of a bitch. Oh boy. What an idiot that's that's within how did that was two and a half months ago Yeah, that's so stupid they're They elected trump

They're all so stupid. What kind of there's no there's no other way to describe it at this point Yeah, I mean it's they The the question is not Will they It is when will people who voted for trump realize they've been Turned into the cock holsters of the military industrial complex It'll just be gradual and uh, you know, alex jones is a bellwether So it does seem like he's getting there boy. He just said

Like that's rough. Mm-hmm. That has to I Do you think this hurts more than losing his kids totally I think it does right at the big I think he could give a shit about losing his kids. He's definitely spoken with more intensity about this than that I know right but at the same time like at the beginning he was talking about how trump Because of the globalist influence that he's betraying right them like that Trump is the cock holster of the military industrial complex. Yeah is him betraying. Yeah, like he is a he is a Hippocrite a liar and now I really think what I want my summation to be of this episode Because of the twist of that last clip

He's a bad propagandist. Yeah, he's a propagandist, but he is disloyal. I think he's hurt Right, I think he's an emotional guy. Well, you never let feelings get involved. You're right like like you're a whore This is why gerbils didn't fucking fuck up like you're a sex worker. Right, you know, you don't kiss You fuck you don't kiss And now it's jones kiss. Also, I love I love the imaginary self righteousness of it's homophobic to say cock holster Right, but I can say johnson holster. That's not homophobic at all. No, it's the word Not the intent that's homophobic. Yeah, they used to put that on t-shirts Yeah, johnson holster

I I genuinely thought because he's a guns guy. I genuinely thought like oh, that's a very specific type of holster Oh, yeah, I didn't realize that he was using a euphemistic term. It's a problem with metaphors when you're a second amendment guy Yeah, he was he was too busy being fricked in the b Yeah So anyway, alex you suck Um, you're in marathon was terrible. Uh hiring mike sernovich is a mistake. It is a big mistake. Uh, your team sucks I think I think bailing on trump is not a mistake. I think the sooner he does it the better for him I would say he should have done it

Before now I would say he should have done it two weeks before the election Um, it if if he was as brilliant as he said capable of seeing the future as well as he can I know their framework. I know their plans. He should definitely have bailed on trump way earlier. Um A totally totally I think it's a mistake now because he's gone too far. You think so. Yeah I mean you fucking heard him say he'd die for trump, right? That's insane, right? I would never say that about any politician even that I loved that I thought was awesome. I would never I saw you squint there. Um

Maybe Maybe robert kennedy the only maybe like he had a really good run right before he was assassinated of american politicians Maybe rfk. Yeah other than that maybe solon and that's Like from the history of the world maybe solon right and that's just because of his treatment of the hektamaroid What? Cincinnati's he had a good run. I don't know He was the guy who uh, I don't know of cincinatis. He ran. He had great chili, right? He had great chili Uh, and you remember those ads where it was like cincinatis, right? And then they yeah, anyways

No, who was he really though? Uh, no, he was the he was the famed story of the guy who uh, was a military leader Became a farmer then they were under attack in athens or or whatever this has to be rome um Could be rome cincinatis is a latin name not a greek well fair enough Um, yeah, but the the general gist of the story is guy is former war hero Gets on a farm The city is under attack. They go to him. They say we're giving you all of the power You do whatever it is that you need to do

And then the moment he's accomplished his goal, he leaves power. That's very similar to solan, right? It's very very similar very similar. Yeah the point being this is not a thing that happens in real life No, what happens in real life is caesar. Well, to be fair, solan did happen in real life, but well technically so did cincinatis According to the history, but to me that's that has the ring of myth. That is the ring of diehard Right diehard arcade So jordan, I think if I want to put a button on this, what's your button? Um, it is the punch button from diehard arcade. We've we've made a lot of hay out of this We've had some fun. We've made some laughs, but the the reality is

This is a desperation cash grab on alex's part. Yeah, this whole thing is There's no substance behind it. It is just I need money. Please give me money 30 hours of programming right and outside of The alex jones show all the rest of the programming is unwatchable. Right. It's complete utter garbage That's that's the thing that I've been I I think if alex jones goes so goes infowars Not if he's bringing in cernovich though, cernovich is cernovich is close. All right I haven't seen cernovich yet. So well, I'll hold with hold judgment until we do our first cernovich episode. He still sucks But he has more juice than uh, we'll call it. We'll call it nernovich fight. Oh boy

We'll call it uh, I don't know how to lisp knowledge fight. It's not gonna work. Anyway, there's nothing to lisp Just to mate again, uh, fuck this shit Uh alex you're you're I mean listen. I wanted I want I want to start a new thing. Yeah I would like to end each of our episodes with a promo A wrestling promo. Oh boy alex Your fanny and freddy narrative is absurd. It's stupid. You got no leg to stand on I'm coming for you. Oh, shit. That's where the wrestling came in you. Yeah, I was gonna say you were just kind of saying words Pretty regularly or like I don't like this like I'm that's not a very bombastic rate

Wrestling promo right now. I'm too tired We've been doing this for three and a half hours. Have we yeah, I'm too tired to really come up with a like a full I'm only getting stronger, baby. Listen up alex jones If you're gonna pull this fanny may and freddy mac bullshit throwing things down Let me tell you something. I'ma coming for you and I'm gonna put you into the knowledge fight coffin at the end of the day I like that. That was more difficult. Yeah, that was much better. Yeah, um Stupid I love that's not a very fair criticism. Not you

Alex you're stupid. Alex. You are stupid. You're in trouble No matter how much money you raise You're getting sued and you're gonna lose. I think that's I think that is the Like the greatest thing about the you can have a buzzfeed article You can have a million followers You can have 10 million followers and they can all be giving you money But you slandered someone who's a billionaire and he's not going to let you settle Right. Well, just just like we've talked about earlier. The rich are always fighting the war against us

Well, if he's fighting the war against alex, exactly, I'm okay with that. Oh, no, no, no I am too ulecaya seems like a fucking he's one of us even though he's a billionaire. Yeah, agreed. Um I I think it is I think that buzzfeed article is right In that alex is that tragic figure of it is not that someone else is taking alex down No, it's that alex is taking himself down. Well, and he doesn't know how not to that's what's fascinating If you get to the end of that article it talks about his divorce and custody case specifically right and

Basically, it lays out that all he had to do was show up And not say a goddamn present himself as a good dad and he would have won the case Yeah, because because the judge specifically said his job has no bearing on this right and she did not allow That stuff in court right all he had to do was not be a dick and he couldn't couldn't do it He couldn't do it. He lost that case for himself and he's going to keep on losing He has to yeah He is uh, we're watching we're watching an archetype of a man laid low

And it's fascinating because we know he deserves it. It's fascinating. It's funny It's inevitable and it is the most infuriating thing Because it is it is that idea of like Can't we just get to the future where you've already lost? Well, that's like why do we have to put ourselves through like well trump is going to Lose he's going to be impeached. He's going something terrible is going to happen to him Why can't we just be there already? Why do we have to wait and watch it because we know? Well, I think because it happens every fucking time

Because I think that this goes back to how we've failed in every other test throughout history Now is our chance to actually close the door right anyway You can follow us guys if you want to we if you are still listening if you're still listening Tweet at knowledge underscore fight Subscribe to us knowledge fight on itunes. Also if you're still listening at this point, please send us a tweet hashtag Rappaport still lives Uh, that is our that's our that is our that's that's just your trick to see if anybody stayed to the end That's our simple. That's really all it is. Yeah, if you've made it this far

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Have us do an episode from history 10 dollars or more a month. We'll do it. Uh, and it'll be shorter than this one This is what happens when you do an episode when I'm not here I have to I have to just fucking throw everything at it It just so happens to that you were gone for an episode and the uh, so many weird things have happened in the world So yeah, but anyway, which means in four days the most weird. Yeah, it just keeps happening. Yep Uh guys, this has been Fun jordan's been fun. It has been Amazingly thank you all for listening. We appreciate it so much and thank you for everyone who's joining up and uh

We see the numbers skyrocketing and fucking fucking thank you Thanks to all of the new policy wonks. Thanks to all of the upcoming policy wonks and just so you know and a new mission Yeah, get a celebrity to retweet about our show and I'll send you a shirt You got a shirt if you can get a celebrity It is not going to be a knowledge fight brandon shirt. It is going to be a shirt dan has in his closet Absolutely, but also this is going to create a real debate about what is a celebrity? And I'm ready to have that conversation, but please try and get celebrities to retweet our show Anyway, jordan

We're dudes Who like to get into it? We get into it. We get into the weeds right? We're in the the mucky. We're in the nitty gritty of There's a term for that. It would be policy. We're in the nitty gritty policy But like what would the noun be for we walks we walks andy and chansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding So alexa my first name color i'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you