Knowledge Fight - #382: December 23-27, 2019

Episode Date: December 30, 2019

Today, Dan and Jordan take a look at how things played out over Christmas week over on the Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex checks in with his old psych warfare buddy who has some troubling ...things to say. Also, Alex reveals the big secret of the New World Order.

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Starting point is 00:00:53 Knowledge fight. No, no, no, no, no, no, knowledgefight.com. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan. We're a couple dudes like sit around to novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Joe.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Indeed we are Dan Jordan Dan Jordan. You have read mountains of material for the show over the past year, but Dan, have you read anything in 2019 that you enjoyed? No. All right. Short answer. Moving on. No.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Have not. I had started out the year with an intention of having for recreational reading. I was going to try and read as much Philip K Dick as I could. Right. Right. I was going to try and read chronologically through K Dick and figure out what went wrong. Where did he like, did he start out completely insane? Right.
Starting point is 00:01:42 It was at a gradual process, right? And I made it through like maybe three or four of his books before I just got too busy with yeah, all of this show related reading. I just didn't have a whole lot of time for that recreational reading. I decided he was less crazy certainly in the late fifties when you started with like bring yourselves together. I believe that was the first book first few just kind of left me cold and left me maybe twenty twenty.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Maybe I'll get it back on it. Start back over on the list, but yeah, maybe I don't know. We'll see. Unfortunately, as I've discovered, I do enjoy reading stuff for this show more than I enjoy necessarily early right, right, right, right, right, right, right, oh boy, that's a damning indictment. I'd rather read John Birch Society materials than sci-fi, so okay, that's where we're at. That's where that's twenty nineteen and I suppose so happy new year, put a button on
Starting point is 00:02:42 it. We're doing the Alex Jones Christmas spectacular right to refresh everyone's memory last year on Christmas Eve Alex Jones did an episode where he got drunk and threw hatchets around the studio. It was maybe one of the more fun things. It was a highlight. It was a highlight. If you've not listened to that episode, I highly recommend everyone go back and listen
Starting point is 00:03:06 to last Christmas Eve's twenty eighteen episode because it's it's a bizarre Alex tries to hit one of his cameras with a hatchet genuinely does explicitly is disappointed that he didn't hit one of his own very expensive so that set the bar pretty high yeah yeah yeah it's going to be tough to top that today we're going to be going over December twenty third through twenty seventh of Alex's show and unfortunately it's only actually the twenty third and the twenty seventh because Alex took off for the holidays oh he just had rebroadcast and best of episodes for Christmas Eve Christmas where they were there hatchet throwing that is the best I was going to say but no I don't I did not listen to his
Starting point is 00:03:49 best okay all right all right so so we'll get we'll get down to business see what he does for the holidays this year before we get to that we're going to take a little moment Jordan to say thank you some folks who signed up and are supporting the show. So first Peter thank you so much here now policy won't I'm a policy won't thank you Peter next Melissa thank you very much sure now policy won't I'm a policy won't I was just noticed Janina thank you so much you were now a policy won't I'm a policy won't ironically Janina Janina Janina Kombaca next Kevin thank you so much you are now policy won't I'm a policy won't thank you Kevin thank you Kevin next I downloaded tick talk as a joke
Starting point is 00:04:24 now I'm hopelessly addicted, thank you so much you are now a policy won't I'm a policy won't I downloaded tick talk as a joke and now I am hopelessly addicted thank you so much next Wyatt Thank you. Much. You're. Now a policy won't I'm a policy won't I'm a policy won't Next Leanna Thank you so much you are now a policy won't I'm a policy won't you Leana next Morgan. Thank you so much. you are now a policy won't I'm a policy won't and you Morgan Thank you so much. Next Elizabeth. Thank you so much. You're now a policy One. I'm a policy want thanks Elizabeth. And you and then finally Mike.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Thank you so much. You're now a policy won't I'm a policy won't you make thank you make. If you're listening out there anything and hey I enjoy the show. I'd like to support these gents too. You can do that by going to our website knowledge fight dot com. Click the button to support the show. We would appreciate it. It'd be delightful. So now Jordan we have two out of context drops for a show. Merry Christmas indeed. And one of them is I guess they're both kind of upsetting but here's the first one for violent. Of course we're crazy. Everybody wants to come here. That's who we are. Let's embrace it. We're maniacs. That
Starting point is 00:05:28 seems pretty. I mean hey we're not. I mean let's just be cool with it. Now the flip side the flip side of that and I almost feel like I mean a little whiny bitch. Okay it's got a lot of mood swings a lot of ups and downs. I enjoy Christmas music swelling behind a man saying I feel like a whiny bitch. Yeah. Merry Merry Christmas. So Merry Christmas Alex. So Alex starts on the twenty third here complaining because everyone that he knows and he works with his shadow band. They're all do everybody got shadow. Well they're all doing such great investigative work but it doesn't matter because there's shadow
Starting point is 00:06:14 band and honestly this just made me laugh a lot because I would describe this as Alex having a false start on the episode and getting getting a penalty. You know one of my greatest frustrations is one of my greatest joys. It's that my crew our reporters our researchers just churn out five star research and information like that John Bown report. That is so incredibly important shadow band everywhere. The only place you're gonna find it is a band video and if you get excited to share it millions will see it if not the enemy will win. We'll be right back with the full launch shadow band shadow band. I feel like it's a
Starting point is 00:06:55 full start because he's like I will be back with the real launch of the show. This isn't the real launch. It's like that. But we guys we do this over. Yeah, let's from the top. Let's take this one more time. I just complimented John Bown too much started over. So I would say about the first twenty minutes or so this episode is just Alex trying to stress that the audience to the audience that without them he can't do anything. He keeps using this metaphor that the audience is the gun and he himself is creating bullets for them to shoot. These bullets are useless without guns and he really needs you to shoot people with
Starting point is 00:07:27 his information. I don't like this metaphor very much. It's I mean if you're in an info war sure there would be info guns. It does yeah. It's something that Alex says a lot but there seems to like a particular focus on this episode of this idea that you know it almost feels like there was a meeting behind the scenes where they decided that they really need to focus on raising engagement. This needs to be the focus. Yeah. Yeah. So Alex is spending the first twenty minutes of his show being like you guys need to repost my shit. Right. You need to shoot the bullets. Alex also promises there's a big report on Epstein
Starting point is 00:08:00 coming that he's working on with Rob do and an alleged whistleblower. Sure. He's saying it's bombshell stuff but given our recent developments with Rob and sources. I don't feel like we should put too much stock into that. Right. Is he going to remove a computer chip from Epstein's corpse? No. This dad also does not come back. I've not heard hide nor hair of this in studio surgery. Unsurprising. Alex also promises a big report on the evils of vaccines set to drop on Christmas morning which you can then post all over social media and hopefully ruin everyone you know is holiday. The war on Christmas isn't saying happy holidays. It's producing
Starting point is 00:08:35 nonsense anti-vax social media content for everyone to put all over the place. You wake up and like what the fuck. Yeah. Yeah. That makes that makes Christmas lunch so much better. Yeah. So the first 20 minutes half hour of the show is just this like repost my shit. We got this Epstein report coming anti-vax special. How exciting. So it's very dry territory. And then Alex lets us know we have big things coming. I've been interviewing Dr. Steve Piccinic who really was a spy chief really did overthrow governments on record. The character Jack Ryan's based on for 18 years. It's 2002 since early 2002. February 2002 is for some of our interview. He's going to
Starting point is 00:09:20 be on with us for an hour and a half starting at the bottom of the next hour to cover the waterfront. A lot of stuff he just wants to get out there before this year ends and he's ready to release a lot of information. I'll just leave it at that. Steve Piccinic coming back on for Christmas. How all this information in his garage or something is like we got to get this out of here by the end of the year. Should have put this out fire say a lot last year. Yeah. He's got actually a really big revelation. I will. I will say okay that there is an admission that Steve makes on the show that it first of all I don't believe. Okay. But we're true
Starting point is 00:10:03 would be internationally important. I gotta be honest guys. I'm the Zodiac killer. It's me. That's not his style because the Zodiac killer didn't attack heads of state. That's true. That's true. That's true. Yeah. We'll get to that when we get to it. But there is something definitely big that Steve has to. He has a Christmas gift. Okay. So in this next clip Alex talks about how like a man you know a lot of people are awake now. You know there's people are awake. Sure. And that's a real victory. Is it. Well when he talks about it being a real victory that all these people are awake to the power structure and what have you. He compares it to a different victory that has happened historically. And I do feel like he's comparing that victory
Starting point is 00:10:50 unfavorably to the current victory. Okay. You'll understand what I'm saying in a second. You know it was 3% started and saw through the Revolutionary War against an empire never been defeated. Ladies and gentlemen we probably got 30% of the public's hardcore aware now and know how the system works. It was probably 10% five years ago. Sure. When you got 30% aware of what's going on. If they decide to move and take action economically, militarily, spiritually. It's over. So I'm going to explain something here. This is it. This isn't an overly positive statement. It's the truth. We have won and we won back at Calvary with Jesus Christ when God took on our sins as a sacrifice and gave us an example to live by.
Starting point is 00:11:53 But we've really won now and the globalists know that they just want to take as many innocent people with them as they can. Too many souls. So I don't know if you want to like a couple days before Christmas particularly want to be talking about how when Jesus died for your sins that was a victory. But now yeah this is a real victory. Right. Right. It seems to be just based on scented structure that Alex believes somehow 30% of the population believing what he believes is a greater victory than Jesus dying for our sins on the cross. I believe I believe he is comparing his current also the state of the info. Also he's shitting a little bit on the revolutionary war to and isn't that also an insult to the 30% where he's like it only took three
Starting point is 00:12:43 percent to start the revolutionary war. We got 30% and you idiots are doing anything. Well it's defensive. Yeah. It's defensive now. Sure. Yeah. I think I think there's a piece of it that's certainly offensive to the revolutionary war. But I think I'm more interested a little more interested in denigrating what should be a pivotal moment in history for him. He's got Jesus on the brain right and naturally when you're thinking about Jesus on Christmas you have to throw a little shade on him and tell him that he didn't do shit. Right. Did you started the victory but the real victory is 2019. Did Jesus dying on the cross tell 30% of the population about the globalists. No. No. They didn't even three percent didn't even believe him back. Jesus didn't even
Starting point is 00:13:25 sell. I had done praise Jesus on this his holiest birthday. Maybe next time you'll resure up to me but I got this one buddy weird. Yeah. So Alex has got news. You know just tons of it and sure it's very important stuff too. Like comedian Michelle Wolf made a joke. Okay. And Alex is not happy about it. Sure. This is cancer and it wants to normalize itself to you. But here is Michelle Wolf in her latest event on stage in front of a couple thousand people cheering talking about a mother killing her baby so that she has power in place God. There's never been a more satanically pure statement made. This is the definition of satanism. Here it is. You know what we talk about so negatively that you feel like you should have this sense of shame
Starting point is 00:14:22 after you get an abortion. Well you can feel any way you want after you get an abortion. Get one. See how you feel. You know my abortion made me feel very powerful. You know people say you can't play God. I watched out of there being like move over Morgan Freeman. I am God. Don't knock it till you try it. And when you do try it really knock it. You know you got to get that baby out of there. Normalizing that a mother's power is killing her baby for her own satanic selfishness and enjoying it and cheering it. So the main you can see what's going on here. This is completely bizarre like Alex in the past. The very recent past is made a huge deal out of being one of those free speech types especially as it relates to comedy. All the people complaining about racism are just
Starting point is 00:15:27 uptight SJWs. Pewdiepie is just joking when he has people hold up signs and say kill the Jews. It's totally a fun joke how Count Dankula taught his dog to see Kyle. It's comedy and encroaching on comedy is an attack on language in the First Amendment. But now Michelle Wolfe has made a joke he disagrees with so it's pure satanism. This is just sad and more to the point it's lazy. It's lazy as hell. Alex provides no cogent argument for why this joke Michelle Wolfe made is normalizing something and the other jokes he's defended that offended other people are not. The exact same line of attack he's taking here applies equally well to Count Dankula's supposed joke. He's normalizing Nazism here. Alex is embodying the very behavior he claims to hate so
Starting point is 00:16:11 much in the left. And if I were Paul Joseph Watson, I would make a video complaining that he's virtue signaling. Oh yeah. This is ridiculous. This is he went out of his way to record promo after adopting a racist Asian accent. Sure because it would offend the Libs. Yeah. Yeah. That's all he and he and now we're getting a real game joke. Michelle Wolfe made a joke. Michelle Wolfe made a joke. I can't handle it. All I hear is exhausted screeching. That's all I hear. Just say it's it's just I mean I'm more offended by the laziness. It's fine if I do it. It's wrong if you do it. Moving on. Right. That's it. Good time. God. What an asshole. So there's other news. Is there. Did you know more news about Michelle Wolfe because I feel like that's
Starting point is 00:16:59 going to come up again. No. Not okay. I think it probably does come back up later, but not in any greater detail. Just more. Michelle Wolfe is a Satanist or something. Did you know that recently a town of cannibals was discovered because it wasn't but Alex is reporting that it was no all over the world. Civilizations are discovered that had plenty of water and plenty of food when they collapsed and there's not even signs of disease but they're all gone and you know what they always find giant masses of skeletons that have been eaten. Just a few months ago archaeologists in Germany found a town in Germany that's about eight thousand years old and they found tens of thousands of skeletons that had been butchered and eaten
Starting point is 00:18:00 and the scientists studied it and found out they were people from all over Europe some of them over two thousand miles away that had been taken there to be eaten. I meant to cover that story on air but you can just type it in. Stone Age town found in Germany was based on cannibalism. You're like why would they do that? Why would they do that? Why would they do that? Why would they do that? I don't know why they would do that. Why would they do that? That sounds out there. It just doesn't seem like a sustainable model really. Alex is talking about a recent discovery in modern day Poland of a site near Kostresn. Get the fucking country right now. Well I mean to be fair though is Germanic tribes and so there's it's easy to confuse. Sure at this site archaeologists have
Starting point is 00:18:50 found twelve burial pits that appear to go back to the first century BCE. One of the things that they're saying is really notable about this find is that the people there were buried using different types of funeral rituals. That isn't super shocking since Poland is in the middle of an area where there's a rich archaeological tradition with very old sites from various Germanic tribes being found fairly regularly but it's still not like why that's the case is not a completely answered question. Like why are there so many different styles of burial in the same site? Sure. It's very weird. So the varying funeral traditions as well as the presence of trinkets from pretty far away are both aspects of the site that make it a very compelling one for researchers
Starting point is 00:19:31 but literally nothing I can find about this story involves cannibals. There's no indication that anyone was brought to this town from far away to be eaten. There are no archaeologists who are studying the actual site or saying any of this kind of stuff. Quite frankly unless there's some stories that I'm missing and I've read a number of them so I don't I don't know maybe there's some weird one that I missed. I'm inclined to say that Alex is literally making all of this up. That's not fair. Nope. That's not fair. You have to take cannibalism a little bit more seriously. Dan. This is this is not something you can joke about. I have like an abortion or whatever. I have two possible explanations for what I think might be going on. Okay. The first
Starting point is 00:20:08 is that he might be making this up because I know that he never reads stories. Just he reads headlines and then riffs on them. The headline in the express about the discovery of the site is quote archaeology shock gruesome discovery of mass graves and mystery urns stuns archaeologists which you could see Alex turning into a story of finding the remains of a cannibal community. It's gruesome mass graves. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks express. You guys are great. The rest of the details that Alex repeats about this. They're most of them are in the sub headline so it would be a pretty easy bet that Alex just saw the headline his brain interpreted it and turned into what we just heard. Sure. And none of that's based on anything except his fucked up head.
Starting point is 00:20:49 The other possible explanation is that Alex is taking details from this new dig site and combining it with details about Herxheim a very famous grave mass grave site in Germany that was discovered in 1996 and definitely showed signs of ritualistic cannibalism taking place at the time of about 5000 BCE. A 2009 study of that site Herxheim did strongly suggest that the inhabitants of their practiced cannibalism based on particular cut wounds found on bones but that's not really a consensus among the academic community. Some believe that it's more likely that the dead they had rituals performed on them where their flesh was removed from their body before being buried which isn't historically or archaeologically unheard of. Sure. The point
Starting point is 00:21:34 here is that even if Alex is just combining these two sites into one even the most gasfully stuff about Herxheim is not concretely proven and there's a large element of this story that's absolutely just coming from Alex and his imagination. They all collapse. That's a lapse into cannibalism. They find it everywhere. It's the same thing with the black pyramid. Yeah. Yeah. Here's making this shit up. I'm I'm leaning more towards my theory that Alex will always bring up cannibalism if he is hungry. That is why that is my new theory that I'm working on because every time he brings up cannibalism he does have a certain amount of like they used to eat people. He's to just nosh them up. They used to they pull the marrow out of their bones. I'm so fucking hungry. I want
Starting point is 00:22:18 a chicken wing would be like that's just how I feel about it. You have a compelling theory here. I don't know how we would test that but maybe we start sending Snickers bars to the Enforced Studios. When the language stops. Yeah. And then whenever we cut off the Snickers bars talking about cannibalism all over again. Yeah. So it's I mean it's the twenty third. Alex knows he's going on break after this for the holiday. Sure. And I would say that there is not much Christmas talk. That's not surprising. It's surprising to me. I don't think he's feeling very Christmasy. He is. He's getting taken down from all sides. Yeah. He is not. He is not feeling in the spirit right now. But there is a little bit of religious talk, but it's all the same
Starting point is 00:23:03 standard stuff. Like basically I'm better than Jesus. The Info War was weird. That was weird. But the God gave him a mission that kind of show. So that's a little bit here in this next clip. We've got to strike while the iron's hot. God isn't giving us this type of providence and protection because we're so great. It's happening because we're willing to do it and God will use these imperfect vessels. But we have been given the commission to fight the enemy and we will carry it out. And I'll tell you this. A lot of people can see that I've lost a lot of weight. It's almost 40 pounds now. Whoa. I'm eating the same way I was. Everything except I am religiously taking the supplements. Boom. Oh boy. Christmas spirit. I am religiously taking this. Oh God. The reason
Starting point is 00:23:56 for the season is a lot of ad pivots. There are so many in this episode. Just constant. God gave me a mission. I'm going to carry it out and I'll tell you what. I've lost a lot of weight. Everyone knows it. They can see it. It's because I'm taking my supplement. Sacrament more like supplement, my friend. Exactly. That's what I'm doing. It's it's really intense. The level of pivoting that's going on on this episode. Man, you know, these guys, they just these are the same people who are decrying how materialist through the holidays have become so material. There is an irony. Oh yeah, there is an irony. So Alex comes back from break and he wants to talk about some of the good stuff that's happening in the world. Some of the signs that things are going well and one of them has to
Starting point is 00:24:41 do with I think he's making up numbers, calling numbers. But something I want to get into right now is some very good news. Young people in major polls that several articles on it are against abortion of any time and it's accelerating the younger people get into teenage years of over 70% in most polls somewhere in the 60s. And it's women, girls that are leading the charge in that which shows all their propaganda is backfiring. And so the attempt to say, oh, it's fun to kill babies, try it out. Well, that's not going to work either. So there's a real revulsion happening against Michelle Wolf. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Who's doing those polls on Michelle Wolf jokes? I can't even find anything close to the data that Alex is using here. I have no idea. Like nothing I can
Starting point is 00:25:39 find comes close to the contention that 60 to 70% of young people are opposed to all abortion. In fact, all the credible data I can find on this issue is the exact opposite. The most recent polling from Pew Research from this summer had support for all or most abortion being legal standing at 61%, which is the highest point that question has pulled at in over 20 years. The only groups that have levels of opposition to abortion that are close to what Alex is saying are white evangelicals at 77% and Republicans at 62% odd. I honestly have no idea what polls Alex is talking about and he never says and I can't find an article about this on info wars. So I have to assume he's either just making it up saw a meme or something. I don't know. I think he pulled
Starting point is 00:26:23 youth Bible study. I think he pulled the youth Bible study at the church that he doesn't go to anymore or something like that because what? Yeah. What I don't young people are opposed to all abortion. All of it. Yeah. All cases. I don't know and every single article that I can find has headlines like the next generation is leading the charge. Yeah, exactly greater access to reproductive health like all of them. So I don't know every article about the next generation is either they are leading the charge in the fight to make the world a better place or they're destroying craft breweries. Those are the only two types of article about the young people. I think that there's more ideological diversity in the young set. Then for sure then then some articles may
Starting point is 00:27:12 paint it to be exact, but I can't find any actual indication that there's 60 to 70% universal opposition to abortion, especially among young women. You know, I don't know. I don't know. That's great. I would like. I would just say I would like. I need a citation. Yeah, I would like one to I would like one to and it is not given. So this is interesting. Alex plays a special report. Maybe he was hungry. You needed to get a snack. Maybe you're on to something. There we go. So Alex plays a special report. I guess I mean you could call it a special report. It's really just a segment of Howard Stern's show where they have a guy doing an Alex impression making fun of him. The whole thing is that this guy doing the impression he's just hawking products
Starting point is 00:27:56 shamelessly and saying stupid shit. So it's a pretty accurate piece of parody. Honestly, I feel like Alex would only play play that if he thought his audience is completely on the hook because the risk of them seeing something make someone making fun of how Alex sells shit and realizing that's not parody. Exactly. That's exactly what Alex does. It seems high. It seems like a high likelihood. It would. It does seem like the emperor walking around with no clothes is not lying anymore. It's just like I'm fucking naked. You tell me I'm wearing clothes. I don't even give a shit anymore. It's weird, but I suspect at this point Alex needs to self aggrandize more than he needs to pretend he isn't just running an extended conspiracy infomercial.
Starting point is 00:28:34 So the fact that he's important enough to be made fun of by Howard Stern is something he could bank on. Yeah, like he's the biggest radio show ever in the last 20 years. Yeah. Yeah. They make fun of me because I'm relevant. Yeah. The only thing worse than people talking about me is people not talking about me. So that yeah. I get that he plays a whole segment of it. It's crazy. He plays a whole segment. Yeah. How long like 15 minutes? No, no, but I mean it's maybe like five or five minutes, but it's still extended. That's long. Yeah. So after that, we get our guest. I want to say a Merry Christmas to all of our audience and adopters. Steve Pachinick. I'm not going to get into this whole bio, but he helped run the camp David Accord. That's how long he's been around,
Starting point is 00:29:16 helped found Delta Force, done a whole bunch of stuff since then. He's on record, you know, overthrowing governments. He's talked about it on air before and gotten called into federal court over it. I mean, it's, so he's got to be careful about how much of it gets to here on air, but you talk about a source. There's all these Q fantasies and stuff. I mean, this is a real guy that's been around a long time and knows a lot of stuff. This is a real deal. This is a real deal, not that Q bullshit. Okay, it's really mad at Q. So Steve is on and I love the way that even like the two times that Alex has talked about Steve already in this episode. It's been like he really has done this. Yeah, I know as if he's defensive. I was. I was the first time he went through
Starting point is 00:29:51 Steve's. I was like, are you? Are you telling me or are you telling you because I'm not convinced either way? I swear to God, he's not. He's not bullshitting. He's bullshitting time. I think he might have gone to Korea for me guys. I think he might have. He didn't, but I think he might have. So it's really interesting that Alex prefaces this by saying that Steve needs to be very careful about what he says on air. Because immediately out of the gates, Steve says something he should not say on air. And ironically, now I can say because in Israeli operative died, I was involved in the coup, which Israelis did not know the assassination of Rabin. This is the first ever heard of because I had interviewed Rabin and I found him to be exceedingly depressed. I related
Starting point is 00:30:39 to one of BD's right hand man and in turn, Rabin was assassinated not for the Oslo agreement, but because he was so depressed, he could not function. I don't even want to play games where I start taking anything. Steve says seriously, but it's fun that he's now announcing. He was involved in the assassination of Heath. Sock, Rabin are. Is he proud of that? Yeah, it seems like it. It seems like he's proud. Yeah, and not even that. He was just he just told somebody that he seemed depressed and then they assassinated it. That's his idea of him being involved in an assassination. He explains it later and he like he talked to some like a massage guy. He's like this dude is really depressed. Just so you know, I'm worried about and they killed
Starting point is 00:31:27 it. We should get him some help. No, you killed. Okay. Well, you know, there are two ways to solve that problem. Yeah, it's it's absurd. Small point to bring up here though is that Heath. Sock Rabin was assassinated in 1995, which would have been in the Clinton years, and I don't think that even in Steve's fake story of his life, he was supposed to have been at the State Department under Clinton. No, no, as I recall he pretends that he was there under Bush senior Reagan, but I don't remember it extending past into the Clinton. I assume that we as more agents from around the world die. We're going to find out he's been involved in a lot more assassinations. I bet I don't know I was in the State Department when Kennedy was shot
Starting point is 00:32:09 man. I don't know. Maybe this is part of his mythology answer. Maybe it is part of his mythology that he was there under Clinton, but either way, there's no evidence he was there past 1979. So I don't believe any of this shit. Alex really wants Steve to talk about Epstein on this episode. He really wants to get Steve's take on it. Meanwhile, Steve wants to promote his new memoir. That's a surprise. I am very excited to read. Oh my God, that is going to be the greatest work of fiction. I think I've ever heard of Alex is not all that interested in helping Steve plug his book too much. Okay, really wants to talk about Epstein, but then he gets a little bit more than he asked for because Steve
Starting point is 00:32:54 is still on the Epstein is still alive kick. Sure. And now he's also fully on board with Epstein was working to compromise people on behalf of Massad sure as his narrative part of his Rayleigh intelligence. All right. Okay, is not a road Alex necessarily wants to go down right right in the past. We've often seen Alex be confronted by far out conspiracy theories coming from Steve. He'll often resist their insanity for a little while, but in time he starts to weaken. Steve is very persuasive and Alex is gullible and we start to see this dynamic playing out again. It is true that the body they took out on the stretcher has a and this was mainline photos AP you name it is not the same ear. The ear doesn't even look halfway the same.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Put that back on screen please guys. That's from the photo the Daily Mail. Everybody ran. That is a real photo and it's not even the same ear looks nothing like it. So Alex is now helping Steve create support for his right still alive. That was his body narrative. That's wild and right off the bat those pictures mean nothing. Even if the pictures used for comparison had no obvious problems with them, it would still probably mean nothing, but they do have serious problems. Of course they do for one. The picture of Epstein alive that they use for the comparison is was taken 15 years ago. The only facial fixtures features that are supposedly suspicious and being different in the pictures are the nose and ears which are made of cartilage and change
Starting point is 00:34:21 an appearance over time sometimes significantly. One thing that changes over time is cartilage on your your ears are all Jesus. This is some super flimsy super dumb conspiracy clickbait shit that Alex is now using to help prop up the mad ramblings of Steve Pechenik in the past. I've talked a lot about how Alex keeps getting fooled by Steve into believing stuff that gets him in trouble. But honestly, I've seen it happen enough now and I keep seeing Alex do it to himself. I don't know if he thinks that what he's doing is playing devil's advocate, but in reality, Alex is just talking himself into believing Steve, which has been a huge disaster. I don't know why he keeps doing this. It's it. It seems like he's always doing a two man game with Steve that he
Starting point is 00:35:02 doesn't know he's a part of because he is he is respecting Steve for being the guy who probably is involved with all assassinations over any international period of time. Everybody killed everybody. If you believe you have to believe that he is set in motion literally every important thing that has happened to the geopolitical scene. Yes for like the last 50 years right right. He's the most important figure in the world. I can't even put it into words between him and Leo Zegami. We have everything from prior to and post 9 11, including 9 11. Yeah, but but Alex is always trying to like like in that clip. You know, he's like, okay, well, you said something that sounds crazy, but you know when you think about it, the ear didn't
Starting point is 00:35:52 look the same. So I suppose you know that part of your theory is correct. That's the part where I'm saying he's every time every time. Yeah. Yeah. And he even heard him do some of that stuff with the the sandy hook. Yeah, even when Steve was coming on saying there were actors. He Alex was like, well, maybe and that's why I think that Alex shouldn't ever try to play devil's advocate because he's not good at it. He ends up tricking himself now. Mulder shouldn't play devil's advocate. No. So you know Epstein still alive and also now we get into impeachment. The impeachment is it's a it's the swan. I'm actually impeaching him Alex. It's the swan song for the Democrats and Nancy Pelosi. But also it turns out it's the end of something else that Alex shouldn't be into.
Starting point is 00:36:39 The other part is the impeachment part where a Nancy Pelosi is basically the Joker in this movie where in her own mind, she thinks she's wonderful. This is her swan song, but this is the swan song to the entire House of Representatives because in a time what where we really don't need representatives and an arcane what model we are working with the internet. We're not a democracy. If we had a democracy as Ross Barrow said, we would be punching our computers and just voting constantly on our own. So basically the representational government will decrease in importance to governors in the south. Abbott, the Santas will become more important. So representative government is gonna it's already done. It's by me. It's the end. Yeah. The fuck representative government. All right.
Starting point is 00:37:27 The last time Steve was on he's talking about how due process is an. I'm not a part. Wow. He's trying to strip away a whole lot. Steve is an out and out fascist to to a level that I find he's also really brazen about these things and Alex doesn't seem to at all recognize that what he's talking about is like pretty much complete deconstruction of a lot of the structure of government that is in the Constitution. It is. It does seem like Alex loves and defends the Constitution against all attack. But if he likes you and you say you want to remove the Constitution entirely, he's like, yeah, that sounds cool. If you want to knock down pillars of the West like due process. Yeah, you're free to as long as you are fun.
Starting point is 00:38:14 It does seem like he just wants to rewrite the Constitution into just the Second Amendment. Just the Constitution that they all want is just don't take our guns. Yeah, that's it. And we get to own things and if you take them, we'll kill you. Yeah, yeah, you know, don't take our guns and allow us to use them indiscriminately. Yeah. So also, you know, we learned that Steve is responsible for the death of Yitzhak Rabin, which is big news. Well, he was depressed. I can't believe this didn't make all the. It does seem like a bombshell didn't read about this in the gray. I really would have expected to see that on the New York Times front page. Yeah, they're too busy being racist. Spy chief killed Yitzhak Rabin admits to it on
Starting point is 00:38:56 dumb show. That's a big bombshell would be another big bombshell is that apparently I don't know. I guess Steve is a member of the Screen Actors Guild. What? Hollywood is finished. When you get a movie like the Irishman, which cost $180 million and it's junk. I vote for the Academy Awards and I'll vote for a movie like Harriet that cost three million bucks, but 180 million for Robert De Niro, who doesn't even serve our country, who shoots his mouth off against the president, a man who's never had a formal education, a man who went to the red school, which is a communist school, never really could articulate anything or write anything decent shoots his mouth off. I kept that clip in largely to give you a flavor
Starting point is 00:39:44 of like this is kind of a lot of how Steve talks. Yeah, this makes no sense. This makes no sense. So Steve votes for the Oscars. I could kind of believe that maybe if you but I don't know if any of the movies that Tom Clancy's had made are ones that Steve has anything to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like I don't think that those like Net Force or cyber team or whatever novels right are the like he's not part of the Jack Ryan series right. I mean he would have to be like what he has a producer's credit on something like that like that. He could be in the he could be in the PGA was involved in the TV show that Tom Clancy was trying to make way back. Oh, so he's a Harry Hamlin. Oh, so he's in the writer's guild maybe yeah. That part that part is the most
Starting point is 00:40:30 believable piece of it. Yeah, I would believe maybe you're in one of those guilds, whatever. Don't think he helped assassinate anybody, but I do think he is in the Academy. I do think he does get a vote that he votes for the Oscars. Yes, now even that being said, I don't trust him. There's two things that he's saying as why he wouldn't vote for the Irish men and they're both weird. One is budget right strange. The other is Robert De Niro's political views. Yes, but you just see it. There's like this guy. He's just rambling. Yeah, just a rambling old man who wants to tell you about like I don't like this movie star because he talks shit. Yeah, cool. Yeah, that's what it great. I killed Yitzhak Rabin and Robert De Niro talks too much and also also he
Starting point is 00:41:11 said he would vote for Harriet. Sure that one that one threw me for a second. I was like you're voting for Harriet because it only costs three million dollars to pay the right budget. That's the okay. Gotcha. I didn't I didn't think that was a huge huge part of why people love to bury. There's plenty. I was wrong. There's plenty of red flags flying all around. Whenever Steve is allowed to talk for an extended stretch of time and Alex, I get the sense that he starts to pick up on them a little bit, but he's not good at pushing back at all and allows Steve to say dumb shit like this. I've always said Texas in and of itself could succeed from the union and wouldn't need the rest of the union. Florida can succeed from the union wouldn't need the rest
Starting point is 00:41:54 of the union Florida. In fact, what I'm saying de facto the South has risen again. It has risen in a way that the lies that lies of Abraham Lincoln and the Northeast. The 12 days of Christmas Super say has come to info wars. I got to break the lies of Lincoln. The South has risen again. Oh boy. Oh boy. That Steve's a neo confederate also cool. So I think that Steve is super super naive about what it would look like for either Texas or Florida to secede from the United States for one. They would then become independent countries and they'd have to work out trade arrangements with the rest of the United States as well as other countries, which would be pretty difficult, particularly without being able to enjoy the weight of the rest of the U.S. economy
Starting point is 00:42:42 that really helps create those trade relationships. I'm pretty sure he is assuming that they do not even need those and they will become self sufficient nation states obviously right because they have all the resources they need. Sure there are some resources, but probably enough for a fully sustainable economy geographically neither Texas nor Florida is what you'd call in an optimal position. Florida is basically a peninsula of the United States and Texas wouldn't even be able to block off transit to and from south and central America. Since there's the New Mexico and Arizona borders to consider, so it wouldn't even be able to create some sort of a blockade or you know whatever to create it. Essentialness for it to be involved in a trade
Starting point is 00:43:26 route to get some kind of leverage. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this plan is dumb, but also if they leave the United States federal government, guess what else happens? The U.S. federal government stops sending them money. No, no, no, Dan, because red states make all the money and give them to blue states. Everybody knows that that's been backed up over and over and over again. Please do not to disagree with me in the past year. Florida received over two hundred thirty seven billion dollars from the federal government or the equivalent of two thousand one hundred eighty seven dollars per resident of the state. Texas took in about two hundred sixty nine billion dollars. These are the second and third highest totals of any state in the country. So sure,
Starting point is 00:44:04 good luck. Keep yelling your dumb, dumb shit that the south has risen again and you get your fan base excited, but make no mistake about the reality of this. The reality of what Steve is saying and what he's suggesting would be a complete disaster for the people of Florida and Texas and with all due respect to Florida and Texas, which I care about the residents of both of those states. It would only be a relative inconvenience for the rest of the United States. Hey, now that's exactly right. Yeah, you are correct. The rest of the oranges are going to have to come from somewhere else. We are Georgia. I know the rest of the United States would find a way to make that work. Yeah, it would be a disaster for those states. Yeah, it would be inconvenient
Starting point is 00:44:46 and you wouldn't want to do it. Obviously if you're disrupting a lot of stuff. Yeah, absolutely prices of stuff would go up. It would be more expensive. It would be a bummer, but after after a while we'd all be like, okay, this is the new reality. Let's move on. Yeah. Meanwhile, Texas would, I guess have to go bankrupt. Like Moody's would remove their credit rating and turn it into just a frowny face. That's it. Yeah, it would be a mess. Yeah. So Steve has taken responsibility for killing eat soccer bean. He's talked about how Epstein is still alive. He's declared the end of representational government. He is talking about his votes for the Oscars. Right. He said the south can rise. It has risen again. Florida and Texas should succeed. Yeah. And so now
Starting point is 00:45:30 he starts rambling a long time about how he took down the Soviet Union. He is a fucking gift dad. He really is. And I wanted to know what he felt about the youth technology that Scorsese use, but no, nothing about that's coming up. All right. No, but it was too expensive. That's true. So he just talks about how it was him. I took down the Soviet. He does use the first person singular. Not we. I took down the Soviet Union quite a bit. And so after he rambles about that for a while, I think Alex's defensiveness pops its head up again. Dr. Jennings, a lot of this sounds like to people like this guy sounds crazy, all these exaggerations, but I've actually looked at the history books. You did run the camp. David
Starting point is 00:46:13 Accord is the only successful deal. You were involved with the Pol Pot stuff. You were involved the Soviet Union. You've done all this stuff because you actually do work instead of sit around and talk about how you're an intelligence off and sit around a bar bragging and patting each other on the back. Still shitting on cue a little bit. I guess I'm not sure how they're sitting around at a bar patting each other on the back, but I don't know. Yeah, that's the defensiveness. That's the like I'm recognizing that what he's saying is completely unhinged and makes no sense. There's no way that all of this is one person's lived experience. It's ridiculous. Steve, I know this sounds like there are only two actual
Starting point is 00:46:49 environments for what you're saying. My show and a mental health facility, but I really do believe you when you say what did you just say again? You brought down the Soviet. I believe you. Yeah, I got to get you off my show. Yeah, so in this next clip, you know, they start taking some calls because the callers want to talk to Steve and this caller asks if there's anything they can do to get Trump to get tough because that's one of Steve's big complaints. Trump isn't tough enough and he needs to toughen needs to get mad needs to bring Steve in to run everything. Yeah, fire everybody. Exactly needs to make Melania Secretary of State. Yeah, make her a duke. Yeah, so the scholar asks and the answer is pathetic. Is there
Starting point is 00:47:34 anything we can do to come together to show President Trump that no matter what we're with him so he can start expediting his. What do we do to get Trump to get tough and the state and not just put up with their crap? That's an excellent point. I think you should all get together within your own groups and start writing letters and, you know, sending Twitter or however you want to communicate to Trump that we support him, but we need to have a tougher approach in the next administration. We start to have. We have to start cleaning the way he does listen to the people and a lot of it gets to everybody. I mean, when you have a chance with this president, he actually values what the general public says. That's a fact. There's some real
Starting point is 00:48:17 comedy embedded there. Like you have this guy asking what the people can do to help get Trump to toughen up and take on his enemies and Steve's answers. Write some letters. Such a lame answer, but it gets good when Alex says that Trump really listens to people. So this is a good plan. You may recall the Trump's campaign was characterized by thousands of people loudly chanting lock her up at his rallies right and something tells me that's about as strong as a message you could give that you want a guy to get tough right if Trump isn't going to listen to chanting crowds. I doubt he's going to give a shit about your letters that he's never going to see to begin with. No, he reads every letter Dan every letter. He also keeps a list of who's been naughty and
Starting point is 00:48:58 nice. What greater message do you need than crowds chanting lock her up like what more would you is there a paper trail? It's good point. You can't prove that you can't even prove he was there. No one wrote lock her up. That was the real problem. That was the issue. I am poor bastards. So in this next clip Steve talks about he you know he has a bit more of a Christian streak in this appearance than I've heard in him lately weird, which is something that I'm noticing weirdly. A lot of them are leaning into the evangelical. Strong religious thing like I watched Milo Yiannopoulos interview Nick Fuentes not too long ago and Milo is very Catholic now. Yeah, I don't remember being part of his brand before but now apparently is and Steve is is
Starting point is 00:49:51 talking about in his next clip. He's lamenting that fundamentalist Christians can't get along with each other. The fundamentalist Christians can't get along with each other. There has to be an ecumenical council wherein in America they get together and understand it. One of the most powerful tools I had in the Soviet Union was not my ability to manipulate. It was my ability to insert Christianity through Pope John and the Greek Orthodox Church in the West. Stay there back the 12 days of Christmas Super sale has come to info wars pushing that 12 days of Christmas so loving that 12 days of Christmas. I feel like you're pushing the 12 days of Christmas sale now well it just keeps happening. He keeps getting caught by breaks that end up having that anyway.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Yeah, so Steve believes that he doesn't have a problem. He doesn't think fundamentalist Christian is a troubling term. No, no, he believes it to be like the group that needs to get together and if you listen to what he's saying because he claims that he overthrew the Soviet Union and the way he did that was injecting Christianity right what that would lead you to believe is that he wants fundamentalist Christians to overthrow our government. Yes, that does sound like exactly what he wants. It's not good. That's that's not good. That's not good. The kernels of what he's putting out connected to imply something very scary. He wants to attempt to overthrow the United States government and I guess he thinks he's going to be somewhere in
Starting point is 00:51:21 the ruling council when it happens. He's going to be the guy firing everyone. Yeah, I mean there's there's a picture of the world that he wants in his mind and I don't think even he finds it to be pretty. You know it's not going to be pretty like I don't think he is like you know most people when they dream of a utopia it's like oh people are holding hands and shit like that. Yeah, when he does it. I really feel like he's just chaining people up walking down flicking their nipples all of all the time feudalism is messy. Yeah, it doesn't. It works. It doesn't work. So it wouldn't be a Steve Pachanic appearance on Alex's show if Steve didn't flatter the shit out of Alex in order to make him feel validated and so here
Starting point is 00:52:07 is the last clip we have from the twenty third. Well if a war has been around a long time and it's very rare when you have a man like Alex Jones who can predict four months or six months before 9-11 that we were going to have 9-11 and when I heard that I said God bless this individual I'm going to get to know him and that was it. It's as simple as that. It's not that complicated. It wasn't that complicated. They were priming us for it. You know when the big buildings blow up we take your rights. I mean it was all just they had it all lined up. You can see it. Oh you just listened to Bill Cooper. You guys are wrong. It was Leo Zagami. We know this. There's so many details. This is confirmed. Yeah. He said it. Leo said it. I mean if you
Starting point is 00:52:46 trust him about other things. Why do you trust him about that? Yeah. I don't know. There's all a bunch of shit but it's exactly the way Alex would want to be flattered by Steve and Steve's given what he needs. Oh yeah. So there's going to be a rebooking. They're just coming back on to like good terms. It's very interesting to watch like there is a pretending we didn't have a falling out. Yeah. And now just sort of gracefully getting back into Steve's testing the boundaries. He's throwing out Epstein still alive shit. I killed the soccer being mad. It's it all flies. There is no hope. He got. I personally got the pope to help inject Christianity right into the Soviet Union. Me Steve Pachennik noted hope soother hope whisperer. Yeah. So
Starting point is 00:53:32 Alex takes the break on the twenty fourth fifth and sixth and he comes back on the twenty seventh and I'm going to say he's coming in hot on the twenty seventh. He claims that it's just because he hasn't been on air for a little while. So he's got ahead of steam. But in reality I think it's because Trump had given a press conference where he was asked about pardoning Roger Stone and he said he hadn't really thought about it and Alex is really pissed off about that moment. Christmas break the two days we took off. President Trump had a press conference and he talked about Roger Stone because the question got raised to him. He said oh I really thought about that which means he's not ready to make a statement on it. Obviously he has talked
Starting point is 00:54:17 about it. Did you want to say what happened to Roger was obviously wrong yet to say the least. He was not convicted of being a Russian spy. Sure those were for lying to Congress. Yep that's a tiny formality and that's not ground. I'm going to cover it again. I know you all know that but this speaks the whole issue. If Trump won't start indicting these people and these rogue government agencies these bad cops as he calls them well then what does it say if they're just left alone. It says it's open season on anybody that supports Trump and so okay Sean Hannity's ready to lose his job. So Stucker Carlson. Alex Jones has got him trying to put him in prison speaking in the third person and suing the hell out of me and lying about my family and paying former
Starting point is 00:55:05 employees to tell huge lies who I'm going to have to sue so that other people know they can't just lie about me but that all takes money. So I'm going to get into this and Trump in a moment and I love Trump but his biggest failure is that he can't get the Justice Department to do their damn job illegally spying on a candidate doing it once their president lying to Congress about it is illegal. That's way and I've got CIA hearings and Defense Department hearings. It's not the military coming after me. It's all the Ivy Leaguers that have these intelligence clearances literally calling me an enemy agent and talking about how they're trying to shut me down. That means shuts you down and I'm pissed. I'm an American citizen being run over by a bunch of America hating scum and openly say they
Starting point is 00:55:51 hate this country and they sit there in Congress and I'm not in those hearings getting to challenge them. Excuse me Lord. These people should be damned to hell though. I mean that. I'm going to take the Lord's name in vain there. I mean these people are sick. In that clip at the end there he said God damn them and I was like cut that out. Yeah I went and found the video of it. He actually says that and then in the version so apparently they do have a delay button. Yeah because they were able to cut that out in the in the audio version that I use to cut the clips from but he does say God damn them cut that out. They should be damned to hell. That's what he cut out. Yeah I guess so. That's so weird. Very weird. But you notice that clip. The ride of it was general to specific
Starting point is 00:56:37 very specific turned very personal very much airing of grievances that were about my own trouble. Now I love Trump but personally I'm not doing so hot right now right. I would like him to fix that please. Yeah it starts with like the Justice Department needs to do their damn job. I mean I have problems. It's just me. I got problems people. People are being so mean to me. Yeah but even like that goes on even longer just complaining about his own shit and then he has to clarify because I think he realizes like I'm kind of making this all about myself. Yeah he's like this isn't about me. But vengeance is God's. I'm just gonna say this. We need action and it's not for me being under attack. It's because these criminals are getting
Starting point is 00:57:26 more bold and they're intimidating a lot of other people and getting them to give up. I don't know who he's talking about. I think it's just himself. I don't know but a letter writing campaign could get people to come. That's what I've heard. That's true. Actually Alex launches something of an initiative here on this episode. Okay. I don't think it's fully spelled out by the clips that I have but it's more or less. Let's start protesting at Trump rallies. Okay. And but he does. He talks about it a little bit. He's like I don't want this to be like Nick Fuentes going out and messing around with the turning point. Sure is that's leading to a sism. We want to be friendlies but also inject our message by protesting at the Trump rallies.
Starting point is 00:58:09 I'm like you guys are just doing this sectarian shit. This is all man. You're just going to create more like extremeness within your communities and by all means go ahead. It's like they're falling ass backwards into understanding how protests work. Like it's so ridiculous. Yeah. It's so ridiculous. Yeah. So Alex is not doing great and he's mad at Trump and that's something that he's is going to continue throughout this episode here on the 27th. Alex is in this very confused state about his support for Trump. There is an enthusiastic yes of course I support him but also like I'm really pissed off. I'm starting to get right really frustrated like it's which is inevitable. They just hate people protesting so much whenever
Starting point is 00:58:54 it's like you're not on my team. You can't protest but then whenever they want something they realize that the best way to get it is by protesting. It is strange. Oh God it's it's not going to go so stupid. It's not going to do anything either. Like if he goes and starts protesting at Trump rallies all it is is promotional stunts for himself. That's that's really all it is. But who cares. Alex complains that like you know he did bring up the Department of Justice not doing their job and a big part of that is they need to put Biden in jail. It's open and shut. Sure. So Giuliani was on TV talking about how he's going to if he just had two people and they put him in a position where he could do it he could prosecute all these dirty
Starting point is 00:59:34 actors all of them and Alex agrees based on a lie. So I'm going to open the phones up today and talk about what Trump needs to do because you just heard Giuliani. He all he needs is two people. He can indict all these folks. It's totally true. You could convict these people with your eyes shut. My God they went all over TV and said well you know they were investigating my son so I said if that guy is not fired by the time I leave at six hours you're not going to get the billion dollars and son of a bitch they fired him. I had to sit here and put up with that crap from these criminals. So Alex is really mad and he's very convinced that the case against Joe Biden will be open and shut because like a classic globalist he went all over television and confessed to
Starting point is 01:00:24 his crimes. He bragged about them. It's in the white papers. You know the deal. Yeah. If you pay close attention though you'll notice how Alex Jones engages in narrative sleight of hand. He's so worked up in his feelings that the rant moves and flows smoothly but he's very intentionally inserted a lie in there that's meant to support the very passion that he's expressing. Biden didn't want that prosecutor fired because they were investigating his son but the rest of the stuff that Alex is saying is true in as much as Biden did give a speech where he told the story of threatening to hold up money to Ukraine if they didn't remove that prosecutor but this truth is only there to mask the presentation of the lie which is that Biden's motives were personal and
Starting point is 01:01:04 corrupt. This is a pretty important trick for propagandists and conspiracy theorists. Most of the time an audience like Alex's probably wouldn't even notice or most of them are probably they already believe that that narrative is true. Yeah by intertwining lies with real things you create a situation where you can just play a clip of Biden saying that they had until he got on his plane to fire this prosecutor and your audience will experience it as if the motive part the part where he was trying to stop an investigation of his son. That's what's being proven by the clip that doesn't show that. Yeah. You can prove the true part but the lie is a lie connect to the truth to a lie then demonstrate the truth and plenty of people will accept the lie as part of
Starting point is 01:01:45 the demonstrated truth. On a super basic level this is kind of what Alex does all the time with headlines. He can prove the headline by flashing it up on the screen but he can't really prove all the nonsense nonsense bullshit that he riffs about the stories. So when he tries to establish something he says is true he just references headlines. As an example consider Bill Joy's article in Wired called why the future doesn't need us. Alex has said a thousand times that that article is about how Bill Joy went to a conference of high end tech people who they debated whether to kill off humanity or turn us into a dumb down mass of blobs sucked into video games or such shit shit shit. Well none of that is true. It's not in the article at all. It's completely a
Starting point is 01:02:26 fabrication of Alex's fantasies but his listeners have heard him talk about it so many times that it's become an internalized truth. I've listened to thousands of hours of Alex's show and the most I've ever heard him cite from that article is the headline because for his audience that's enough. He tells the story of what Bill Joy supposedly said and then shows the headline the truth of the headline is combined with the lie of Alex's story and then all you need is that headline in order to prove the lie. Yeah this is a really important fundamental basic trick that Alex pulls and sometimes it's kind of hard to disentangle some of the pieces of it. It's a lot like if you were injecting a vaccine with poison. Interesting giving it to people interesting way
Starting point is 01:03:12 to look at yeah. So Alex like I said on the twenty third he had a big piece that he was promoting that he was going to have a special report about Epstein right sure and it turns out that Alex has decided that he has evidence that Epstein's operation is still running even though he's dead though wait Epstein isn't dead while Steve doesn't think so but it's hard to keep these conspiracies sure sure sure okay okay but Alex is convinced that it's still up and running and here he talks about that a tiny bit. I mean it's like a brothel commercial like you go to the brothel and they got the twenty women lined up right there you just pick the woman you want that's what this is except they look like they're 15 years old and that's on the YouTube that's what they'll show you
Starting point is 01:03:57 do you do you know what's down the rat hole and we're just supposed to sit here and put up with it and then the whole media is covering it up and running white washes and attacking us because and so all these people have signed on to this at CNN and Fox News you've signed on to child molestation you've signed on to satanism you have signed on with the devil we're gonna go to break but i'm gonna tell us this again you're the reason we're here your word of mouth your prayer and your financial support and we got products you absolutely need that'll blow you away wow great oh i i keep that clip in largely because i want to demonstrate fully and very specifically that alex is using this yeah to uh to market this is not something that is
Starting point is 01:04:49 necessarily well fleshed out no not certainly something he's doing a good job with he's not very interested in the story really but what he is doing he he's taking these the sensationalizing things about it because he knows that it's very popular with people online yeah and he's using it to draw attention to his products increase engagement increase engagement i don't want to get too deep into this i'm just going to give you a brief sketch of what alex is talking about here he thinks he's cracked the case and discovered that epstein's operation is still up and running because he just found out about a company called avi loop this is an aviation branding and like flight school classes operation business that's run by a woman named nadia maraschenko who uh
Starting point is 01:05:33 she definitely has ties to epstein i have no idea about the larger picture of her involvement with him nor do i know if avi loop has anything to do with his crimes necessarily but i do know that she was a figure who was questioned about this matter as far back as 2010 so alex isn't really breaking new ground on the subject the avi loop aspect of the story isn't really even new either heavy published a published an article that discusses her weird commercials the ones that alex is calling brothel commercials yeah back in august legitimately the only thing alex here is doing taking is taking kernels of things that actual outlets have already covered and adding a layer of conspiratorial they're going to kill me for covering this bullshit to it alex put out a
Starting point is 01:06:13 special report there was a little over an hour on christmas that he teased as being an interview with a whistleblower like uh he mentioned on the 23rd sure and it was a empty chair a la clinty school this i mean metaphorically an empty chair for sure this wasn't a whistleblower it was just a guy who'd done some digging into the epstein story from a pretty conspiratorial angle and insisted on being filmed in the shadows it's just a guy mumbling through suggestive information about eva loop as if it's breaking news and also weirdly laughing a couple times well trying to get through his script not like that laughing right like okay i don't kick kick quite tell if it's like nervous laughter or what but it's very strange and it's uninspiring
Starting point is 01:06:54 interesting also there are multiple commercial breaks in this special report where alex tries to sell you his weird pills oh man my point here is that alex and his shadowy non whistleblower are not helping they're not bringing anything new to this story they're just exploiting it to create publicity for alex and i find that pretty distasteful not only because i had to watch most of that special report and that fake whistleblowers voice is very annoying i'm sorry buddy it's all right so anyway all that's a bunch of bullshit nonsense anyway the globalists yeah what are they up to these days they want to face scan they want to put face scans in place okay that's bad i'm against that sure yeah they're coming to los vegas this year according to alex
Starting point is 01:07:36 which is i don't know how i don't i don't know what to say about that i don't know if that's necessarily true or not i don't know what he's misrepresenting i'll leave that for another day because alex couldn't get through talking about this story without veering into something very racist in 2019 they announced starting in vegas and starting in places like that because they know you're going to vegas to have fun and so you'll put up with whatever they want you to do face scanning but there was a backlash just standing there and being face scant and of course they're going to let the illegal aliens in anyways illegal aliens they're allowed to hit and run rob steal kill they're just giving drivers license in new york new york's another place at legordia they were
Starting point is 01:08:23 starting or was it jfk legordia's in chicago isn't it that was jfk wow so so all of this is going on all of this is happening and it's just in your face but the illegal aliens oh here just have a driver's license you don't even have to take a driving test only citizens have to do that oh it would be racist if you're from another country wild and you see the footage of thousands of men lined up to get their driver's license but you don't even need the test just like you can shoot a woman in the back and she dies for no reason as long as she's white shoot her in the back at the pier with her dad it's okay as long as she's white so that took a ride yeah yeah yeah alex is completely misrepresenting
Starting point is 01:09:14 the issue about immigrants getting driver's licenses because of course he is and of course he's turning it into a narrative that's primarily about how he feels like he's a victim because he's white sure right off the bat it should be pointed out that drivers licenses are given out by the state not by the federal government so the rules in each specific state will vary a little bit what i'm going to lay out is not like it's generally true but there might be slight differences state to state that said at no point will I gloss over a major anomaly there are currently 15 states where undocumented immigrants can apply for driver's licenses and there will likely be more added to that list soon as a number of states have bills in the works surrounding the issue
Starting point is 01:09:50 in most of these cases all that was really done is to allow a piece of foreign identification to be substituted for the regularly required social security card as a form of ID needed to be given to driver's license I did not all I don't know what the breakdown is on this state by state but from everything I can tell this works exactly the same as if you and I were to apply for a driver's license just with slightly different document requirements right you would still have to take the written test for sure and in most cases you'll still have to pass the driving test do you have to kill a white woman you do okay I know that in some states you don't have to retake the driving portion of the test if you're applying for a license and your old one hasn't expired
Starting point is 01:10:28 or if it just recently expired so I assume there may be some states that allow that in these cases too like if you have a current driver's license from Mexico let's say you might not have to retake the driving portion maybe but I feel like circumstances like that aren't the norm yeah you still have to take the test yeah one of the main arguments surrounding these measures in favor of it is that some research has indicated that licensing immigrants who are previously unauthorized to drive improve safety greatly one obvious reason is that they're required to pass the test yes that usually yeah which alex is just pretending isn't the case but he's just making that up sure another reason that this is important is that if they have license they can get car insurance which makes
Starting point is 01:11:10 things way safer for everyone most of the metrics you'd really want to focus on are improved by issuing licenses to undocumented immigrants state revenues increase overall safety improves people are able to pursue work opportunities more easily than aren't connected to public transit yeah the only real way to be against this is if you really want undocumented immigrants to be miserable and ultimately gone which is clearly where alex is coming from that seems to be all that's going on so you remember at the beginning of this episode alex was mad at trump yes well he's here's the thing he meant for that to be a clean take so he could post a video with a flashy headline to try and get trump's attention no but he got sidetracked by complaining about epstein stuff
Starting point is 01:11:54 and right how immigrants are getting licenses yes that's a that's not that's not easy to sum up with a very simple headline no pity but but fear not yeah alex has editors and he discusses how they should edit this video on air course and i said i'd get to it this segment i didn't i'll get to the rogerstone information in the next segment and then we're going to sandwich this next segment in with segment three and we're going to post that to band.video alex jones blows up at trump because i know those type of messages get to the president or or what do we title it why isn't the president standing up for himself and others president trump's greatest failing a message from alex jones president trump please stop
Starting point is 01:12:49 failing us how about president trump help us help us we're good americans we're under attack do your job defend us what do i say to trump what do we title that video we'll figure it out but we're live right now and i need to get that video once we post it to band.video i need you to send it to the campaign and to the white house and and and to the secret service send it to the secret service send it to that secret service alex feels desperate yeah that's bad i need trump's attention we have to make a headline that sounds combative and like can see i think he also is recognizing that it does seem like trump likes to fight with people yeah if i if i do if i say something he gets messages like that yeah yeah it seems to like engaging with them so anyway they'll figure out
Starting point is 01:13:38 what to title it but alex does not get down to business instead really freaks out about q and i think one of the reasons is that you know around this the twenty seventh there was a number of q accounts that uh trump was retweeting that's true and i think alex is really pissed off about that i want to see action i want the q thing the greatest human movement of private citizens ever in the history of humanity that's what the the q thing calls itself okay well then deliver some indictments i thought getting trump elected was the one of the modern greatest things americans ever did but you know i thought all the guests we had i thought our listeners got trump elected but we're nobody we didn't do anything we didn't have trump on the show we didn't create the talking
Starting point is 01:14:25 points of the president we didn't influence steven miller no my mother didn't get birthed to me q did my father is q papa saved me q is god actually i'm serious and that's why they're all gonna be indicted next week everything's fine as we one go we all go in fact you q guys are welcome to call in to the next hour i got the number out tell me tell me how i'm wrong tell me about the magic the power the uh the insight the the devils the q made this new video exposing epstein that's on band-aid video do you know q did that yeah yeah i'm so freaking lootily q was up here on christmas eve thank god for q we salute you q thank you for two weeks they're all indicted two weeks they're all indicted two weeks they're all indicted two weeks they're all indicted two weeks they're
Starting point is 01:15:15 all indicted two weeks they're all indicted all i've heard talk so far so i want to talk about all that too but i'm gonna get to the president's press conference alex is so fucking jealous of twitter bots yeah he's so fucking jealous it's does he not understand these people oh man also it does it there is a bit of a personal i i do feel like he was convinced by q for a while yeah maybe i i hear a little bit of that like i was hoping for yo you know what i wanted indigents i don't necessarily think that's the case but i can see how you would think that my sense of it and the feeling that i get is more like what i could have done with that yeah it's almost there is that missed opportunity that like i wasn't able to co-op that with there was yeah i wish i wish i would
Starting point is 01:16:07 have worked out it doesn't it also has a little bit of a calm yeah it has a little bit of like i was i was in triple a i was in triple a and if and they promoted one guy to the show and he wasn't as good as me and now i honestly also feel like even beyond what that that angle is the like it's it's the same sort of thing as like if only he'd listen to like max kaiser way back when he was telling him to get into bitcoin he could have made millions yeah on it and if he would have just gotten on board with q in the right way he probably could have made a killing off it and i think there is that missed opportunity that like the opposite of buyer's remorse right that he probably feels and like you see all of these accounts all over twitter with huge massive audiences that are
Starting point is 01:16:53 all fake that are not really tweeting them and like man he's got to be furious we live in a weird world where the president is basically a chain email man come to life man we're going to talk about that a little bit later this is crazy it's not pleasant so alex is mad at q he descends into that for sure for a bit but there's headlines to get to so we got to get to the news the new thing in conservative publications is telling people encourage your wife to have sex with other men in front of you encourage and of course they know psychologically that'll end about half the relationships that do it i mean they're literally throwing a firebomb into your family trying to destroy your life but they tell you oh no no no tell your what your wife's being like you don't
Starting point is 01:17:34 want me anymore you want me to have sex with other men okay i'll do it literally i got stacks of that news too well they're right back stay with us as a family show wow yeah this is he's dan savage now too you see the handling all yeah man conservative publications are telling you to tell your wife to go bang other dudes right right while you're watching i mean that's a healthy sexual behavior good for you i don't know what conservative publication this is that's endorsing swinging but Christianity today i believe alex has already said that people trading wives is manly i don't know why he's bad about this he ain't not in front of you okay in a different room roger so never did no he would never do that sure he gets drunk and trades his wife and swaps
Starting point is 01:18:21 around and puts his keys in the bowl dan but not while he's watching no kink shaming at all but alex's position on this is weird yeah and that's just like a non sequitur going out to break i don't i don't know why he felt that the need to cover that but when he gets back from break gets down to business and he wants to do his video that he's going to direct at trump sure and it's basically just like the same thing he's already been saying like the the boil down of it is a lot of talk we need some action so you can't let criminals keep doing what they're doing like oh we're gonna let them try to rob a bank again the last five times they got stopped but you didn't lock them up you let them go organize again and try to rob the bank again and come in and point their guns at us
Starting point is 01:19:02 and pull all these scams and and ride rough shot over conservatives and christians and bully everybody i'm tired of it and i'm not gonna sit here and take it we need action president trump all right i'm gonna give the number out i want to get your take on what trump needs to do in the new year the reason that's really sad to me is that he's absolutely going to take it yeah absolutely everything that i've seen in he does this a lot he says the i'm not going to take this you know i i'm gonna make a stand and never does it's always just talk it's it's very sad it's it's a i don't know if it's it's infuriating to watch so many of these guys like alex and and it just comes so dangerously close to realizing that they've been
Starting point is 01:19:55 scammed that they've been grifted they don't they just can't cross that line he's so close to realizing what everybody knew in 2015 what he knew in 2015 which is that trump was grifting them he's a liar lying to you to make his own money i mean it's it's really tough to tell like when you're on this ride when do you jettison sure when do you sell bitcoin or whatever like when do you avoid the downside sure by selling and i think alex is like trying to figure out what that is and it's constantly not yet yeah but he's on that line of like i think he does know that eventually it's got to end right like this has to right it's just there's there's no way it's unsustainable it's not going to work out and also whatever goals i think i'm achieving through
Starting point is 01:20:49 trump are not happening no clearly not yeah i think he's trying to save victory from the jaws of defeat as it were with like trying to get something out of it sure like maybe i get back on facebook yeah maybe uh trump locks up hillary if i just get one thing then i can tout that and none of this because right now it feels like all of this has been a massive waste and it's a huge mistake a lot of energy to convince uh myself and my audience that's not the case but like i said i think he's trying to acclimate a little bit to the idea that like it is it is it is almost inevitability that trump is going to disappoint and so he talks about that a tiny bit here that even without trump the world still needs me i'm gonna go to break i'll get to the press conference
Starting point is 01:21:36 just makes me so mad i don't even think about it because if he'll leave roger stone out to dry he'll leave anybody out to dry and i believe he's either i think he has to but look at what's happened to assange unless you're a war criminal we got trump elected okay and he needs to protect the republic and the american people it's his job plus we went through hell to get him in there you did but i know this we put trump in there he's just one wave in this fight we're getting globalists kicked out everywhere we're having victories on a planetary scale it's critical this operation stay on air and be stronger than ever even if the cavalry from trump is never gonna come we have to just start thinking hey the cavalry ain't coming we're the cavalry and you're the cavalry so stand with
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Starting point is 01:23:39 is a very strange place especially considering that he's very explicitly saying that that's one thing that i'm directly responsible for i design these shirts but and he's always the best at everything yeah but i think he's blaming the shirt people you know the manufacturers who make the actual shirts it's not a ziljan or whatever okay all right all right i got a champion right sure uh yeah i don't know it just that tickled me though i enjoyed it that is that is such a weird place for so alex comes back after the break and he's talking about you know earlier he said that he was trying to brainstorm what to name this clip yeah to get trump's attention and i think he realizes that whenever he gets mad at trump he gets trump's attention right
Starting point is 01:24:23 whenever he lashes out he gets the attention and he pretty explicitly says that here and i'm just telling listeners the white house listens to you every time i get mad at trump he tweets out some videos okay great thank you mr president because i want to get those videos out to counter the globalist and defeat them and i know it shows solidarity and we appreciate that that's great mr president gosh he tweets out our stuff every week now the media doesn't even attack it anymore they don't know what to do they try to tell him what to do he's not doing it that's wonderful i want to see indictments of mccabe and comey and hillary and let's start with strock let's start with page let's start with or let's start let's start let's start let's start
Starting point is 01:25:13 let's start i haven't really looked at trump's twitter account in quite a while so i decided to check and see if he tweeted out any of alex's stuff lately holy shit what a mistake that twitter feed is just drowning in stupid memes and retweets of obviously fake accounts this would be really upsetting as a feed like if you just saw it from anyone let alone the president it was not a fun glimpse and i realized really quickly why i tend to ignore his feed as well as pretty much most of social media it was a disaster area but it's my journalistic duty to at least scratch the surface of these things so i went back to see if trump really did push alex's stuff after alex got mad at him i figured that the time that alex said trump had committed treason and maybe working
Starting point is 01:25:56 for the literal devil would be the best recent example of that and that happened on december fourth if alex's premise is correct then you'd expect to see some info wars around that time i did see two tweets where trump was retweeting the trump organization's promotional tweets about mara lago opening for the 2019 2020 season with the caption quote i will be there in two weeks the southern white house exclamation point yes and that is a totally constitutionally okay thing to do dan get bogged down in that right now i also sought a tweet uh there trump was promoting his rally in her she pennsylvania saying quote on my way to her she pennsylvania for a rally see everyone soon i love her she's chocolate really it's like a child i can't i can't do it
Starting point is 01:26:41 it's amazing i can't do it i love it can you imagine if we had if if reagan in 86 were able to tweet it would be bananas like the the mushy brain of these two guys belongs i love her she chocolate jesus christ there were plenty of retweets of bright bart daily caller and even newt gingrich's podcast which i do not know existed no newt gingrich has got a podcast listening to newt gingrich's podcast oh god i saw plenty of info was type information flying around but i didn't see any direct evidence of trump tweeting out info or stuff for other people's stuff i think alex just perceives that trump throws them a bone whenever he starts getting mad but i don't know if that's true i don't know strange yeah i think that that's the illusion that he likes
Starting point is 01:27:26 to live in but like that whenever i get out of line trump gives me a sign right right i don't know if that's true i get a little squeaky wheel gets the oil kind of the situation yeah and now the show gets weird now it gets weird now it gets weird okay i don't compare to the last three years of our show or this episode takes a turn okay i don't know what prompted him to say this but i got really excited when he did i'll tell you how the cali to cabbage you know what i'll do i'll do when richard reeves is in here at the bottom of the next hour and everybody knows i'm bad about doing stuff i say i'll do on air because i get busy and forget so they're going to put on screen over here cut out that at 133 i'm going to tell you the big secret of the new world order
Starting point is 01:28:10 the big enchilada when richard reeves is in here with us i'm going to lay it out the real deal why they're doing what they're doing with the factions are and the decision you've got to make you want the heavy heavy heavy stuff you're going to get it today i told you no more games ladies and gentlemen everything everything's going to come out no more games i swear to god no more games i swear to god i swear to god dan he said that directly to you and he is not going to deliver on that because he's fucking with you i swear to god dan i swear to you right now that is exactly what you have wanted to hear for so long you know he's not going to deliver dan those are the words almost word for word let me tell you that you've wanted to hear let me tell you yeah here's how i
Starting point is 01:29:01 experienced this exactly what you're saying not that he's fucking with you of course because that would be silly yeah but i did hear that and i was like there's no way this is going to happen but let me put your your your your mind at ease all right he does okay but it's forced uh-huh brief and probably one of the most insane things i've ever heard him say all right i like it is the secret of twenty seventeen still twenty seventeen still meg and kelly no okay it has changed dude there could not be a more invalidating thing for alex to say is the heart of the new world order okay the big secret his career is meaningless okay but we'll get to that okay at the end of the episode you son of a bitch you're teasing now well i gotta do what alex does all right fair but for
Starting point is 01:29:58 now alex talks about nothing for a while mostly i mean he starts talking about how texas is really great sure you know when the mafia goes and harasses say all the cleaners in a certain part of a city and tells them if you don't pass protection money something bad's going to happen to your drivers they're picking up laundry those are famous cases and then when they don't somebody fire bombs the laundry or the grocery store the fbi goes and they arrest the members of the mafia that came in and threatened the store owners so this is meant to be like a you gotta arrest the deep state you gotta arrest all of these people sure that's basically the metaphor he's trying to make sure that's why mafia like that never took off in places like texas because if you walked in to a dry
Starting point is 01:30:42 cleaners in texas with a texan owning it and you said you're gonna give us money or something bad's gonna happen to your business you would be killed right there you would be killed i mean my grandfathers were just normal texans nice guys super went to church helped all these if you came into their business and said we want money we're gonna kill you they pull a gun out and shoot you dead everybody knew that that's why you didn't do that they kill you just like that people that i grew up around the last group of texas would kill you just like that they don't question of it if you messed with them they kill you i'm gonna leave aside the mexican mafia stuff here because clearly that's not what i was just talking about alex is full of shit yeah there was a really big mafia
Starting point is 01:31:23 presence in texas most notably the novello family which coincidentally was known as the dalis crime family i say coincidentally because alex grew up in dalis so the people who grew up around would be people in dalis who were alive when the novello operation was up and running sure nothing that alex is saying is true but it feels true to him because how he's mythologized the texan his ego is so wrapped up in this legendary character that it seems impossible to him that any texan would be shaken down by a criminal that's just his feelings he has no idea what he's talking about and it makes no sense shouldn't he know that there was mafia in texas based on his jfk conspiracies about jack ruby and his adoptations with sam g and kana and joseph campesee no
Starting point is 01:32:03 this is no don't even worry about it how could he not well and as everybody knows the one of the foundations of the texan myth is the cowboy and in the wild west no one was afraid of criminals criminals definitely didn't go from town to town causing issues certainly it's not an issue no because everybody there was a texan yep everybody fired on everybody for no reason right so he's rambling about nothing for a bit sure and then alex gets down to saying something pretty shocking and that is that if trump doesn't purge the government of his enemies then trump's got to go okay and also this clip involves one of the longer pauses so your phone is not fucking up just a fair warning a very long pause trump and the republicans are going to go to war with the
Starting point is 01:32:56 deep state and they're going to remove these devil worship and scum or trump needs to be removed period and we need to get somebody in there that'll do something about all this because i'm done toll free number to join us is 877-789-2539 13 second pause after he realizes he's just had dropped must purge the government or we'll get somebody well yeah yeesh i have way i think that was supposed to be edited out and put to put in that video like that might be the reason for that pause of like yeah possibly yeah possibly yeah but he says a little bit more about it and like he's pissed off he's like trump you got to do this guy you get my enemies out of the government sure sure sure but he's also wants to make sure that he's like i still support trump though don't
Starting point is 01:33:59 get me wrong why are these people so stupid so i pray for the president and i pray for justice and i support the president and i support him in this campaign for another 311 days but man am i gonna feel suckered if he gets into office again and these people aren't prosecuted that they don't get in trouble yeah you are gonna feel suckered yeesh this is the same thing he said four years ago trump is the real deal or i've been tricked i'm gonna support him in 2020 but i'm gonna feel suckered if he doesn't take it doesn't solve our globalist crisis immediately after it's it's just stop it oh man getting suckered all over the place but really the reason that alex can't let go is because like trump only won because of him everybody within trump's orbit
Starting point is 01:34:52 during the campaign was just ripping off alex alex is basically the president if you really think about it i really do think he believes that yes i mean there's a lot of demands we need to make of our president we're not in a cult here we put him there he adopted the nationalist patriot movement as an operating system to counter the globalist because the pentagon came to him he called this is the operating system america's always had jones has popularized it we've we've written it into a codified plan this has even been in the new york times and it's accurate the steven millard basically we took our research our work and which is great and presented it to the president it got adopted by bannon bannon didn't come up with all this bannon is a movie
Starting point is 01:35:37 screenplay writer okay they wrote a screenplay off this show that's why the left so pissed they've got all the phones tapped they know and they know the white house still listens every day okay but i'm not a screenwriter i'm alex jones from texas i'm for real you understand i'm a hundred percent for real i mean all this i just i don't even i don't even believe that you believe that i know that doesn't sound sincere that you saying you mean this i don't think you mean that but i do think he means that steven miller sounds a lot like him i i agree i think he definitely knows that steven miller is also a white nationalist yes i i agree yeah i just feel so much anger at trump yeah like and a lot of it is petty resentment yeah a lot of it seems
Starting point is 01:36:24 to be like you're not paying attention to me you're not doing what i want you to do so i'm going to lash out i'm going to start talking about how it was only me that led to you getting where you are now you owe everything to me and now you're not taking care of me it's just sad in this next clip alex talks about antifa sure and apparently did you know that bill airs leads antifa i did not know that we learn that here i i know well we saw him just recently at the chicago teacher strike he was not leading antifa there well that's because he does it by night oh shit i didn't realize that and it turns out all trump would need to do to stop all civil unrest in this country is bust some antifa leaders right because then you'd find their
Starting point is 01:37:08 contracts like the one he found on four chan and it would lead all the way up to the i refuse to believe that he says this is so dumb if the feds go bust any local antifa leader they're led by the weatherman in berkeley they're led by famous professors and the weatherman it's the weatherman that means you bust them they've got actions he doesn't know anybody else directives corporate documents it's it's all signed they have officers and everything and they go out and hire methods and idiots that don't know what they're doing that's organized crime racketeering ladies and gentlemen you did it antifa is always off limits and if you go out of them they persecute you they ban you like the proud boys or info wars because it's their decoys for when they stage a big event
Starting point is 01:37:56 that's who the deep states working through this is their front and soros's son runs it we got the secret documents the fbi confirmed they're real no they didn't planning to violate citizen civil rights to keep people from having their speech and to trigger race riots that target local government police departments to overthrow city governments and install globalist over cities in blue cities that aren't under their total control and some red cities this is um so disconnected yeah this is oh man whoever whoever made those fake contracts really did a number on alex they really they really confirm a lot of stuff that is just dumb he really wants those contracts to be real they have to fight the fact that they are i mean they're laugh they go against every possible
Starting point is 01:38:47 reality of yeah every motivation that any actor in the situation would have are are completely contradicted by those documents the only people who would ever consider making those documents are you yeah exactly yeah but he needs them to be real because they are proof that alexander soros is basically running a terrorist organization and that as he's talking about it that leads him to i'm going to say this i don't think that in this clip alex is calling for people to kill the soros family sure but i do think it's debatable whether or not that's a message you could take from this clip okay that's not a good sentence no it's not and neither is this you understand folks you can't leave soros and these globalists like frankenstein going around uh the the villages
Starting point is 01:39:38 at night that only encourages them and so they need to know that we know what to hit why do you think they want to soft the air we have the death star plans to use that allegory we have them we have them we have them we have them we have them we have them we have them we have them defeat them defeat them remove them remove them no more games no more garbage these people are fricking evil man bunch of devil worship and allister crowley pedophiles i'm not going to sit here and let these people run my life or my children's what about you what about you people the reason i think that that's a potential reading of it is just his normal tone yeah the way you know the starting with you can't allow people like soros wandering around on the streets yeah frankenstein
Starting point is 01:40:26 you know you could make an argument that that's talking about locking him up and incarcerating him but it's also like the tone on his show has gotten a lot more violent lately well and i think that you could take that you could you know apply context clues of what alex wants to do to satanic demon pedophiles and you know you could you could make a pretty strong case that those elements come together to that being pretty fucked up i mean it's fucked up no matter what i mean if i remember my shelly correctly i do believe the townsfolk upon being confronted with frankenstein's monster decided to hold a free and fair trial and let him out on bail made sure that everything was do process yeah they were really into that if i recall correctly that's how
Starting point is 01:41:10 they wanted yeah i mean it evokes violence being done against these these people and yeah and it's just not good it's not good so there's a bit of that going on as as is sort of tradition in our modern day episodes this this this is much more regular um but we get you know he doesn't state on that topic too long because he's got to get back to petty grievances sure he's done a lot of great stuff we just need him to really crack the whip here i'm not backing down i didn't back down whenever grabbing by the you know what thing and everybody it was turning on trump and i called everybody and i said don't turn on him roger didn't even know what to do at that point i said it's all bull it's out of context it's locker room talk i put out the talking point everybody you're the
Starting point is 01:41:52 one you're the one talk to high level folks i said it's locker room talk locker room talk really out of context edited old did you help the massage assassinate anybody too and they're telling him oh there's an inward tape and i called people that know tremperly well and they go no he's not racist like black people a lot and he blacks black women particularly and would never do something like that and i went on there and i said the inward tape is fake folks but they were trying to panic everything right there to get folks to turn on trump right at that moment and i didn't do it so i i think it's hilarious the idea that he's like i started locker room talk that was amazed that's that is a big swing now that's all ludicrous but what's worse is this n word did you know that i
Starting point is 01:42:37 started yes we can back in 2007 i started i started where's the beat how did you that's a good one look the funnier thing is alex's take on the n word tape thing yeah because if you recall what happened there was someone trolled paul joseph watson by sending him a twitter direct message and saying that they were a producer with the would be abc cb i don't remember what network nbc yeah nbc that had a copy of this tape or had seen it and the media was going to run with it this guy was fucking with paul yeah paul delivered this message to alex and in january 2017 alex was on vacation and recorded this probably on a plane you can hear people in the background but it was such an emergency for him that he needed to get ahead of the story we are now about three
Starting point is 01:43:31 and a half days out from this historic event taking place and paul watson wrote a big story yesterday concerning a nbc source and it looks credible i'm not saying the report's credible i'm saying that the source it looks like he is at nbc because we have quite a few sources i'll just leave it at that but i anyway might be open a tape compilation going back over the 14 seasons or whatever uh of the apprentice with him sitting in the chair saying things like his son's retarded and making dirty jokes i mean and supposedly the n word you know the thing about trump whether this is true or not is the top people that have known him for a long time is he does like to basically tell dirty jokes anything that a comedian would do and he doesn't even do it that often but almost
Starting point is 01:44:23 like a stress reliever or a way to break the ice he will sit there and a lot of times actually deprecate himself as well so that's uh that was his take on uh i think it's a little different than how he's portraying it now but uh whatever i might be a little bit you started locker room talk congratulations on that one i i i refuse to believe that a human being exists who doesn't look i don't care if there's a tape or not if you think that trump doesn't say the n word you're insane to me i mean if you that's crazy if you look at the decisions he's made about like renting his apartments the central park five i think you'd be yeah you it's be it's beyond credulity to imagine and i i think i think plenty of people believe that and support him for it
Starting point is 01:45:08 right i think you are beyond ridiculous if you don't think that he i mean that's just silly that's just silly alex's take on this this uh like person who is trolling him uh on on twitter was to say that he looks credible without looking into it at all and then do damage control because obviously he would do that preemptive damage control for the inevitable release of this tape that alex thinks is coming he's not he didn't he wasn't saying that uh it's not real yeah please anyway alex goes to calls and this first caller is upsetting i think trump needs to call out the marines i think he needs to arrest people they need to be tried for treatment because there's the deal we all hate the police state the police state is what the left's doing lawlessly using the
Starting point is 01:45:56 apparatus against the american people it's not a police state when you've got internal traders trying to overthrow the election it's what you do they've led us to this point it's the default position that if he can't get the justice department to take action they need to be arrested they need to be cleaned up and the american people will support it damn it yes they will they'll be behind him a hundred percent once he's in its const safely in his second term alex we need to immediately start agitating for what fdr said in world war two you don't change horses in the middle of the stream he needs a third term he wants he needs a third term we need to immediately after getting a second term well that would certainly drive him into conniption fits uh
Starting point is 01:46:38 you see a little bit almost exasperation from alex after this guy was like he needs a third term so i think that's a little bit too much for alex to commit to but calling out the military and cleaning out his enemies alex will double down on that and like yes absolutely and also he needs a third term well that would freak out the left god stupid that's they just also does nobody ever read a history book also that implies that this caller thinks that we're in a situation the equivalent to world war two right now exactly and it but see this is what's great about this imaginary war with these imaginary enemies it never will be done no so if the premises we can rationalize keeping him in office as long as this war is ongoing you've backdoor to dictator
Starting point is 01:47:26 dan right are you telling me no shit every fucking how do they how does it still happen isn't that but it's bonkers to me the idea that you would trust the guy who's currently in government any more than the previous guy in government to bring the marines in to get rid of their enemies right even if that that that that even if that's real yeah that's always used to turn everybody into a dick and alex would tell you that ten years ago alex would warn you about that ten years ago it's never gone the other way and they still do it they still cry for it these people are insane it's wild so alex has tried as best he can to get trump's attention on this episode he's threatened to put a scathing title on one of his videos oh it'll do it he's said
Starting point is 01:48:20 maybe i'm out after you get reelected of course of course well he still got to support and now i think he's descending to implied threats i want roger stone pardoned the day of the senate sing february 7th and trump better do it i mean it's it's that simple damn it i mean my god roger stone if he wanted to could destroy trump okay and it's not bad stuff it's just what the what the media would do with what roger stone knows about trump would would would would really hurt trump okay with evangelicals and others it's not like trumps gay or something but i mean you know i mean the sorted details would not be you know good and i didn't get that from roger it's just well known okay uh the was his wing man you know and the whole nine yards and so just get
Starting point is 01:49:05 your buddy out of jail man he didn't do jack crap but you didn't lead with he didn't do jack crap you led with he has damaging information about you he did a ton of evil shit yeah you know he's sort of painting this like hey you know roger will fuck you over yeah you don't get him out of prison yeah which is almost blackmail sort of implied black it is exactly blackmail i believe yeah but it's i mean it's it's second hand blackmail but yeah yeah not good so alex takes another caller and hey guess what this one's upsetting too trump said all these things and talked a good talk while he was out on a campaign trail talking about you'd be locked up when delry said that it's a good thing his people with his temperament aren't allowed into the law enforcement we're done waiting
Starting point is 01:49:49 we're done we're done sitting here on our hands being told next week next week it's going to happen the indictments are coming down we're done we're done with the talk like you said earlier with what uh bar said let's fix your cut bait let's do it we're done waiting we're done sitting out here kind of rub two pins together to pay our bills why people are here making millions and billions off of positions and political offices that they've gotten they've given it to their children we're done i don't know about you guys but in oklahoma the good old boys up here we're about done we're done with the talk we're done with the waiting we're gonna make something happen whether that be good better in between what treatment has ever given up their power peacefully what
Starting point is 01:50:30 parent has ever walked away without them being bloodshed there will be blood and there's some of us who are ready to shed it well kasey i would say that they've gone way past the point of where people you don't have a right to take action physically the problem is they've set it up where they make us the villains at that point that's why it's critical to put that violence into action politically viciously in free speech you got a great you know spirit and great voice there and just imagine how much energy you can expend waking people up and letting trump know that you want action ahead of having to use that type of energy uh in in in in violence they want to start an offensive operation you just heard the last caller and he was dead dead right they
Starting point is 01:51:17 want to false flag us obviously we never target innocent people at a walmart obviously we wouldn't just target the police obviously no no it's i don't want to target anybody but people like Nancy Pelosi people like her son people like hunter biden all these criminals that think they're above the law thumb in their nose at us why are they the ones that are never the targets of political violence why is it always a church why is it always innocent people because most of it staged it's anti-foot posing they've been caught as patriots carrying out violence so i hear your anger casey and god bless you but put that anger into action go to a trump rally peacefully and just wait till he pauses and then say harden roger stone info wars dot com and they'll know
Starting point is 01:51:58 you're friendly they'll agree with you and then start saying info wars info wars and i bet the chant gets picked up and that sends a message to everybody and it puts a giant target on my back but hey it's already so big just make it ten times bigger holy shit i'm half shocked alex didn't offer him a job quite frankly that was so this caller is tired of the waiting which is kind of what happens when you do this to people yeah when you create a really highly intense thing and then give expectations of hey the thing that you're really angry about is gonna come and this guy is gonna deliver it when you know full well that's not going to come yeah eventually they're going to get to the point where they're really fed up and feel like they're devoid of any other outlet
Starting point is 01:52:41 other than this anger and this violent expression that's what this caller is is manifesting it's the logical end point of a certain amount of people who get sucked into things like q yep so he's expressing this and like i you know there's gonna be blood and i'm ready to shed it yeah alex's response to that isn't so much no it's hey they deserve it of course they do they're way past the point of deserving it but don't do it it'll make us look bad we'll look terrible if you murder all of those people for things that didn't happen real why aren't Nancy Pelosi why isn't she ever the target nobody's ever killing them i'm not saying you should an irresponsible hold on to say in the context of this conversation and then it leads to hey don't be violent just
Starting point is 01:53:25 give me free press yeah go to a trump rally and yell in fours dot com that'll make everything better this is really bad man if he really really bad that is that is like if you have whipped people up into that much of a frenzy if he had been in public saying that to all of his fans they would have booed him roundly there is no you don't whip up a mob frenzy and then go and now whoa whoa whoa you guys are acting all crazy we need to focus on a letter writing campaign you put up signs of promoting my show yeah burn the witches and call them all but hey whoa whoa let's not actually commit any violence we just need to put up signs saying no more witches here come on it's absurd and but you see that like repeatedly that's what alex keeps doing he's
Starting point is 01:54:14 trying to transmute this violent anger that is the natural end point of the disappointment of these aspiring authoritarian followers yeah and he's trying to take that and be like how can i monetize this instead of recognizing it as a really dangerous sign about what the community that he speaks to is like and help create a very high percentage of these callers are deeply disturbing calls yeah and i i i've never found his calls to be great or healthy sure sure sure but the a much higher number of them lately have been along these lines yeah and it's not it's not something that he should take lightly or be you should feel responsible for it no it it feels like for the past what
Starting point is 01:55:08 13 years the right wing media machine has been edging 18 to 35 year old men with the white violent guns with all these guns and then just never let giving them that release and now it's really coming to the point of a boil yeah like so many of these guys are just like you've told me that there's tyrants yeah i told me everybody's gonna kill yeah when do i kill people you promise you promised you promised i'd get to kill i find that to be upsetting and i think alex is in a situation where he has a responsibility to deal with it and he's not anyway we have one last clip because alex promised to reveal the big secret of the Illuminati oh he did in the new world order he did so here's the thing he has richard reeve in richard reeves i don't
Starting point is 01:55:58 know he's a friend of his he's back in the he's just a buddy he's credited as a reporter i don't know if he is he was just somebody who info wars had out at like trump rally's back in 2016 he doesn't come up much i don't i don't know he's freely i don't know who the fuck this dude is fuck i don't know but anyway he's a big trump supporter and he keeps wanting to like bud in but alex is like i'm uh no i'm gonna we had to take calls we'll get to what you want later that and he keeps getting pushed back he's not getting the steve pechenic treatment no no well actually kind of because steve kept wanting to plug his book and now he's pushing that back that's fair so richard has something he wants to get out and it's basically that we should bring back american empire
Starting point is 01:56:44 so really yes wow where alex goes with that is very upsetting and i think an invalidation of his entire career uh so mike down for this because the secret of the new world order is upon us what i wanted to mention is before you leave i know you got to cut out you've got a lot of work to do but why does our flag only have 50 stars you know recently it came out in the news two or three months ago that trump was looking at buying greenland or whatever and of course you know now the the home country whatever is probably not going to want to sell it well hell why don't we just go ahead and do an expansionist effort and potentially make bringing other states the union all over the planet you know in no i agree because every people want us to actually sign on with us
Starting point is 01:57:26 the exact you're not expanding you're contracting instead of the chai comms just taking people over how about we say hey you want to sign on bring them in that way exactly we can have a hundred well that's what globalists are doing they're rallying populations not even for their own interest but against america we should be rallying nations for everybody exactly the country that was the big secret of the new world order is they sold it as that but then it wasn't what it was trump can take the whole new world order over now make it ideological and people want to join it without being made to it there's no reason why we can't have a hundred stars in that blue field uh i think that we just have to highly vet countries we should we should approach countries that are most
Starting point is 01:58:02 like ours that the people are ready i mean what about uh maybe if we don't it's me the chai comms exactly i don't understand there's competing ideas here right people have people you get with a program you need to get with the program trump could take over the new world order and make a one world government alex is back toward himself into a one world government i i a no refuse the big secret of the new world order is they're doing this thing bad but trump could do it good do you you should have there should be a court order to send these guys to some sort of school like any sort of you should have to you no community service no jail time you have to go to classes and learn about the shit you are saying because you have no it'd be nice you'd be
Starting point is 01:58:52 nice you hate immigration so much so let's just let them become states and then they have free right to travel and you god god these people are so fucking stupid yeah i mean like all alex is doing there is i mean it is an extension of what uh richard is bringing uh that there should be expansionism yeah bring back the days of colonial empiring and whatnot which probably isn't a good idea no and then even in a soft way where they get to vote to join the union or whatever it is they want the only question that i really have is is is that what alex was going to reveal as the big secret of the new world order or was that improvised that's a really good question because if it is that i i i'm flummoxed by the big secret of the new world order being now trump
Starting point is 01:59:41 can make an ideological new world order if that it was intended that's insane yeah if he's just riffing around and that's what his brain came to i think it implies on some level he does want a one world government but it's the only thing that makes sense the united states yeah exactly one world so fucking stupid every single thing about like what he pretends to stand for is completely invalidated i am against a one world government asterisk well to be unless trump and slash whiteners list to be fair the one world to be fair he is saying that if we don't do it china will so at least he has some excuse there right secondarily he's not necessarily talking about a one world government he's just talking about a hundred countries right around the world
Starting point is 02:00:33 that are now all america right fighting with the other countries that are now china sure i guess he wants two world governments that will be in a battle for supremacy which will battle bipolar war or it will end with one of them being successful and then we'll have a one world which naturally means that most likely both of them will be destroyed yes yeah cool this is dumb go to school this is very go to any school it's very childish stuff jesus christ i just see i see a very weird mixture first of all no nothing christmasy about any of this no very disappointing you didn't throw any access i would have preferred that yeah definitely no singing have yourself a merry little christmas no nothing a lot of saying that he's better than jesus that's for sure at least one
Starting point is 02:01:18 instance at least once you know there's just this this mixture of really petulant child stuff like the i want trump's attention so badly why won't you give it to me yeah you must crush my enemies and you're not doing it for me you have that mixed in with these completely ludicrous ideas yeah like steve pacanik coming in talking about the end of representative government the south has risen again i killed eat sakura bean i like that though right but you have that and then he threw some fastballs in that right and then richard reeve coming in and them having a conversation about a need for us to be a one world government expansionist nonsense you have these completely ludicrous ideas being presented like how would you have america expand wow texas in florida
Starting point is 02:02:07 secede where what are we talking about yeah what the fuck are we talking well okay we're gonna we're gonna have texas in florida secede we are going to add in let's go with uruguay sure that one's ours now great i'm gonna go with we split australian half okay we'll take sydney they get melbourne what else who else do you want are we fantasy drafting a one world government i think that's what they're doing i think that's what they're doing wanna like those two things can't really coexist like as ideas they're they're they're dissonant right so i mean it's just we you're just talking bullshit to the audience like all these ideas are bullshit yeah and then at the same time the third element of it is this input from collars is growing to a point of really
Starting point is 02:02:56 scary input that mirrors some pretty scary things alex is saying yeah so you have these three trends that are just like i don't even i the show is it's very bad it's interesting to me but only in as much as like i just continue to be just overwhelmed by the idea that people listen to it and take it seriously yeah especially in the present day the more i listen to it it's like i can't believe people can't see through what he's doing he can't see through what trump is doing i guess but he can you would hope you can see that he can he can but he can't he can't he can't bring himself to and i imagine that's the same thing that so many of his listeners he can't bring himself to because there's a financial motive to not i mean i'm not sure how many of his audience members
Starting point is 02:03:46 have well there's a there's at least an emotional and it sucks to admit you've been scammed true it sucks to admit that the person that you believe so much so much is actually a lying piece of shit grifter true so it is a common response to just say nope doesn't matter fine you know everyone's in denial yeah everyone's in denial that i believe yes and it's leading towards a like a dangerous conflagration absolutely so we will see what happens with that hooray but merry christmas and happy holidays and now i will throw a hatchet right where we go through we do not have a large studio i hit the camera we'll be back but until then we have a website we do have a website it's knowledge white dot com all right we're on twitter we are on twitter is
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