Knowledge Fight - #386: January 8, 2020

Episode Date: January 10, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan take a look at how Alex Jones is dealing with the evolving situation involving the US and Iran. In this installment, Alex decides to toss analysis to the side and focus on ranting about how much he's scared of Islam. Also, Alex experiences some unfortunate tech issues.

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight I love you everybody welcome back to knowledge fight I'm Dan I'm Jordan we're a couple dudes like sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones indeed we are Dan Jordan Jordan have you ever been to a live reggae show have you ever no no really I never I have to say I don't like reggae at all at all no Bob Marley no fucking nothing no Tosh no nothing no I I respect that it's good music to some people some people enjoy it I do not because it is way too relaxed I do not care it's relaxed I do not care for

how chill it is you don't like that you don't like the upbeat you don't like any about it makes me really nervous that makes perfect sense yeah I don't I don't that makes perfect I've always had a position that was kind of anti a lot of people I know and people around me just like reggae makes me like just kind of anxious because of the people or because of the music because the music so laid back right I was like why don't why aren't you worried about naturally naturally of course having a good time because I kind of thought that it would be the people around you or I will I will grant that a number of the people I knew in college who were way too into reggae I also did not trust right but that was more

of a larger personality issue than that just it's just I I I can I can appreciate it I'm not impugning it as an art sure more as a style of course but for the way my head processes things it's just too chill man it could not make more sense that the chiller the music more anxious it makes you yeah that's that is a perfect encapsulation of why we all love you shouldn't you be worried about something more than damn it Bob every little thing you know what's coming is going to be all right no it's not no it is not yeah sorry Bob so this park yesterday I do not process reggae well but I do know a lot about Alex Jones and I don't know much about either so today we're doing a special

episode Friday absolutely it's it seemed required because of the events going on in the world we had you know there was the killing of Kassam Sulamani yes and then on Tuesday night on the 7th of January Iran shot some missiles yeah at targets in Iraq sure and the world was on a pretty in a pretty tense situation but not knowing exactly what was going to happen was going to yeah and so I wanted to check back in because I thought it would be pretty important to cover the January 8th episode where Alex is responding to the night priors responding to the missiles yeah but I knew that by Monday probably something else is

going to happen of course and this is going to be sort of filtered and processed out of the news so I felt like exactly the reason we leave these Fridays open in this way this is exactly what it's for yeah so so today we got a little special Friday episode for you and before we get down to business on this it take a little moment to say thank you to the folks who make episodes like this possible weird all right here we go 2020 and also because this is a special episode that we're putting out off schedule we're kind of on our day off yeah yeah basically in many ways we're going to be doing some additional shout outs at the end of the episode to try and help us get a little bit closer to current absolutely that that's so great stick around for that if you care to

please do uh first jordan today though we're gonna say thank you to richard thank you so much you're now policy walk i'm a policy walk hey thank you richie hey come on now next paul thank you so much you're now policy wonk i'm a policy wonk next app next amy thank you so much you're now policy wonk i'm a policy one thank you aimi next mason thank you so much you are now policy wonk i'm a policy wonk thanks mason next michael thank you so much you are now a policy wonk i'm a policy wonk thank you michael next jay geis i think very close to jay geils who had a band who's obsessed with the centerfold sure anyway jay geis thank you so much you are now a policy wonk i'm a policy wonk thank you so much jay geis no do not do not do not come at me with reggae

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listening you're thinking hey i enjoy the show i'd like to support with these gents do you can do that by going to our website knowledgefight.com clicking the button to support the show we would appreciate it'd be very helpful so jordan um i did not know what exactly i was going to encounter looking in on the eighth uh alex's coverage has been all over the place sure it's been very bizarre right it's sort of holocaust denial aside that that certainly steve pochanic came in through some bombs absolutely um he had alex being like this is a bold move yeah um and then waffling around a little bit on the seventh he was trying to blame like Pompeo for sure of course yeah and so i didn't know what his angle was going to be after rata aron had retaliated it's a bold move i assume

that would have to be the response sure so on the eighth alex is on air right after trump gave his speech uh it is sort of uh rambling slurring some have described it that way dangerously uh uninformed way um yeah so alex discusses uh this speech at the beginning of the show right at the opening the president just about five minutes ago completed a lengthy speech that went about 45 minutes where he attempted to de-escalate the situation with iran we'll be playing uh large excerpts of that speech today so alex thinks it was a 40 minute speech it wasn't how long was it it was like 10 minutes or something like 10 minutes yeah yeah trump like was late okay you know there was a there was a delay of some sort yeah alex doesn't know anything about the the situation he

just thinks it was a super long speech so it's good to know he prepares sure sure sure before he gets on air at all that's that's just a good indication of how much he gives a fuck about what's going on now admittedly in the past four years i have heard trump speak for the longest concurrent length of time was two and a half minutes and that felt like 45 so i will give him that sure it does time dilates a little bit it breaks down um it's okay for you to not listen to that much of trump because you're not a guy with an audience who screams about how great trump is and how everybody should be on board with him and he's bringing back uh america and all this that's true alex has kind of an obligation to listen to him and be and and sort

of know what he's actually saying sure he's cheerleading the guy fair um but oh well um so alex talking about this speech he brings up something that trump says in the speech that alex i don't think should be in favor of um but he does seem to be and i think it's a little bit weird and trump called for nato said hey you you you get a lot of money you're in europe you're a lot closer to this problem you need to come in and you need to pay for it and you need to stabilize this trade of hormones and we shouldn't be there paying for it we're energy independent in the united states so alex is saying that it's a good thing for trump to call for nato to take care of the situation i thought we wanted to get rid of nato i thought he did too

i i he should be staunchly opposed to international bodies resolving these sorts of conflicts yeah yeah yeah that seems to make most sense by what authority should he believe that nato is the right to intercede at all well the international community has a responsibility towards each and every one of us in order oh wait no he doesn't believe that no he doesn't no he's kind of against that these are sovereign countries he should be completely opposed to the unelected international board of globalists coming in and meddling but now because it's somehow extricates trump from some nonsense he's uh he's all in favor yeah doesn't the builder bird group and the cfr and all of those people control the united nations with try lateral and all of that shit yeah yeah so he's

saying the builder group bird group should take over iran i guess that's what he's saying trump did call for nato to get quote much more involved in the middle east process his angle is pretty much exactly the same as alex's like we're only interested in the middle east because of energy related concerns and we don't really care too much now that we're supposedly energy independent and that's some sick shit that gives a glimpse into how these people think that's saying the quiet part loud a little bit w couldn't even get away with being that obvious new it's absolutely not a surprise to learn that this is the position trump is taking but alex should probably think a little more about the optics here he made a large part of his career by screaming about

how bush and his cronies were evil to carry out these wars in the middle east for oil now he's totally fine with trump basically saying now that we don't need your oil we don't really care what happens to you i kind of see a whole lot of face saving going on here and it's all pretty thin and full of shit but honestly it's probably the best thing to do like i mean it it turns you mean for trump or for a trump and alex yeah yeah i mean compared to the alternative or of the two of them like rattling sabers or god forbid trump militarily responding i kind of prefer the idea of them just talking dumb shit yeah like it might be the least damaging of the options that people like them are capable right right right right they're they're kind of acting

right now like the guy who is is like really grabbing his friends going like hold me back hold me back to and they're not they're like you are fucking crazy man but they don't want to do anything yeah it whatever it is it feels thin and yeah black yeah so alex likes what he perceives to be a joke that trump made and i don't know if trump did make this joke trump let's make a deal our missiles are bigger than yours he actually said that but trump knows how to dumb it down i mean he's really smart behind the scenes like this my missiles bigger than yours it's like in uh space balls it was my swartz is bigger than your swartz i'm pretty sure that this is exactly the same sort of shit trump was doing with kim jong-un and we see how fruitful that was yeah

i don't know what to think here like in the case of a very tense world situation alex seems thrilled that the president of his country is making dick jokes yeah it's baffling that his analysis is taking series by anyone isn't that why we're all in the situation that we're in i guess so because everybody wanted a president who made dick jokes made some dick jokes i got a big old dog i mean could it get more fiddling as the world burns yeah just just make a dick joke making dick jokes all the world burns yeah yep that's my job dear but yeah i read trump's speech and i don't think he was making a dick joke he was being serious i think he was just saying we have better missiles than iran i really don't think there was a joke i think it was more of a threat than anything else yeah

also trump announced quote punishing economic sanctions that he was going to put in place in addition to the sanctions that are already there this will largely hurt the iranian people and alex knows that i know that he knows that because he's yelled about sanctions killing iranese many many times in the past when doing so has helped him attack madeline albright alex knows damn well what trump is doing is engaging in economic warfare that'll tend to hurt and kill civilians in iran but he doesn't care he'd rather focus on an imaginary dick joke i i am really fucked up by that it's a economic sanctions thing just because of the way that the world works and i'm not some sort of expert and i don't know but it seems really obviously

fucked up to me that everybody goes apeshit if we if trump murders a guy but everybody's like well it's the safe option if he imposes economic sanctions that are going to murder regular people right like it fucks me up that that's the case like guys fighting there's that distance that people can take who's like the idea of the sanctions is to punish the people in power yeah and if it did work that way then maybe there'd be a stronger argument right but it doesn't seem like that's the way it works in practice yeah so i think all alex has done is read a drudge headline about the speech because he that's the only thing he can really cite well i'd say drudge report dot com is the best up the minute global newspaper that's headlines accurately represent

what trumps speech about 12 minutes long but the buildup was 45 minutes of them with a live feed of the white house lector and or the way to save it buddy winter white house show so in that clip alex reveals he has no idea how long trumps speech was at the top of the show he said it was a 40 minute speech and now he realizes it was much shorter so he tries to save things by saying there was a half hour static shot of the podium which alex was thrown off by i guess is he implying that he watched the podium for 30 minutes and considered it a part of the speech absolutely there's just a clear indication that he'd just seen these headlines on drudge before he got on air and was making things up also even though alex is making a correction here

he's also making a new error he's saying that trump was speaking from the winter white house which is mar a lago but trump was at the white house alex should be ashamed of himself calling one of trumps properties the winter white house what would thomas jefferson think about something like that what would they write in the federalist papers about an aristocrat ascending to the presidency and branding one of his properties as being equivalent to the seat of the u.s government i'd suspect they would not be too into it and i would love to make up a quote but i don't have it dan dan dan come on everybody knows that when they were writing those papers and then the constitution and all that stuff they were really just saying nope i got it they fucking hate trump

all of them except for like madison he was weirdly into that shit uh adams uh john adams was weirdly into they were all about fucking monarchist some of those guys were oh yeah yeah there were some some crypto monarchists yeah but jefferson would have been very against it i assume that anybody who you've never heard of before who gets cited by oath keepers like tench cocks yeah i bet he would be into it yeah i bet those are the ones the weirdos for the revolutionary war those guys oh boy yeah so this has all been kind of prelude this is all alex responding to trump's speech and it's kind of an attempt to talk about news stuff but it's not really what's important about this episode is as alex gets into the second segment of his show he launches into

a profoundly islamophobic rant for no reason he dives into outright hatred that spirals out of control and will come back up later in the episode naturally and leads me down a bit of a road like magma erupting from volcanoes there is some stuff that i think is interesting and and worth noting here but as this goes along i ended up going down a couple of roads that will lead us to some very interesting information but before we get there i mean we just got to hear alex be a bigot and the left that's always telling us that america is bad and christianity is bad and we oppress women sycophantically worshiping something that basically puts garbage bags over women or beekeepers suits it fundamentally scares me pisses me off it makes

me revile it so you get a sense here that alex is starting off this rant by saying i am scared of islam yes i am i i revile it right i hate it that isn't mainly because of wardrobe choices that is a yeah that is a big part of it yeah but i was wondering like why is he going off into this why is he starting this up i understand that there is a conflict in the middle east that is a hot button issue sure but he went to that pool supply store again didn't he no you did not just point at me you're very close god damn it and you know i live in austin i went last night after i got off air at nine o'clock and greg reese and others took over and i pulled in to a mom-and-pop hamburger unreal and there wasn't one group of muslims in there there were two groups on separate sides

at a place i've been eating hamburgers since i was five years old i used to drive down here with my parents when i was a kid that was my grandfather to dan's hamburgers off of uh ben white and man check man chaka and and it's not that i hate those people yes it is it's that anywhere islam becomes 10 of the population they begin pushing everyone else out not they they begin conquering everyone not true so alex has a complete intolerance towards seeing muslims in public as you mentioned we've heard him discussing anger at seeing muslim women at a pool supply shop back in 2015 muslim children i think it was teens maybe yeah teens i'm not i don't remember if he was very specific about the age of the people but whatever the case now

he's the that he hates to see muslims at a hamburger place that he likes he doesn't want to live in a world where groups he doesn't like get to exist in public spaces it's just that simple with him this 10 percent thing seems to track back to a book written by a missionary named peter hammond called slavery terrorism and islam the point of the book appears to be the countries need to keep their muslim population under two percent because if that number gets any higher the muslims start to act in predictable disruptive ways i read a breakdown of the book and it's not even an idea worth engaging with mostly because it makes no sense on its face hammond is arguing that there are various levels at which muslim populations will begin acting differently like

at two percent they start to make street and prison gangs or at five percent they push for supermarkets to offer halal options he then lists countries on each level and it makes his point make no sense at all in his breakdown the u.s. is listed as having a point six percent muslim population but we have a really big halal food market in this country no we don't so shouldn't that not be happening yet you can't find him but dan's hamburgers dan but shouldn't that not be happening yet no because that happens at five percent according to his breakdown this makes no sense if you tell me this was written in like the 1970s i don't know when it was written but i don't think it was it wasn't long enough ago yeah right it wasn't like it because it sounds to me like he's

trying to be the islamophobic harry selton from a isek azimov's foundation i i'm not positive that this is where this idea originates yeah but it's definitely something that's referenced on a lot of the islamophobic blogs you can find that cover this this 10 percent idea they'll link back to his book as a source and i assume he has really quality sourcing and all of his numbers check out they all and if you follow up on him i'm sure they all make sense everything that he's saying like these distinctions between the categories of two percent five percent it's all meaningless stuff because the bigger issue is that what hamid is doing is taking a very like these very complicated situations in different countries in different regions and he's boiling

it down to a single variable that is how many muslims are there it's the sort of argument that plays really well in like white nationalist and christian identity extremist circles but no serious person would even consider that theory as having like being worth a second thought but you see here how alex has accepted that is truth it's just the reality to him that if your country goes to a 10 percent muslim population they're going to start taking over and putting in sharia law this is gross rhetoric and the end result of this kind of thinking has to either lead to war extermination dislocation or eugenics program alex isn't stupid enough not to realize that he's just fine with those things being directed towards people he doesn't want to see

when he's trying to get a hamburger i mean yeah sure you can look directly at the interconnectedness of all of these different countries in their individual contexts and histories and all of that stuff and consider on a nuance level what it is that it means and how it really applies to different spaces or dan you could estimate how many muslims there are in a place and make long and stupid pronouncements about it you could which is easier right but the the problem for alex is that islam is expansionist or something sure and he cites a reference for that specific islam has been expanding for over a thousand years and we almost lost europe to it turkey the holy roman empire is eastern empire it got taken over the men killed the women put on slave ships and sold all

over the world and so it's a group conquering people does alex not realize what he's saying here why does he think that turkey was part of the holy roman empire and before you answer let's focus on that word empire i don't understand what was it before that okay so so turkey used to be part of the holy roman empire while still maintaining its status as a sovereign state right which is good should we take this all the way back to the days of alexander the great i take this back to like you know there weren't any more worlds to conquer and it turns out they're worse so alexander wasn't that great in the first place this is like if this is your argument if this is what it goes back to you need to like stop yes this is 250 000 years ago when the mitochondrial eve emerged

from whatever place she's coming from that was when she was taken over by islam and that's why feminism is evil yeah exactly fuck off it's just just fuck off oh these are so such thin arguments and like the thing too is like okay what we could do is we could go case by case all of these places let's trace it back to love it love it but that where do we want to go that would literally take us all day let's start between the tigers and the euphrates dan let's get there there was a part of me that was like looking at that dude's book about the ten percent number yeah and i was going to like all right let's go through each of these examples that he uses and show why there's more complexity here no like now i will just end up having to explain literally all of world history

we got it we do not have time no so um here we go alex uh i don't even know how to describe this this is just like beyond the pale kind of bullshit it's a group conquering people and they're very arrogant on average they're very full of themselves and they think they have a right to rule me well you don't have a right to rule me now that said i was against the wars going in the middle east because they were adventurous and they were removing people that were a lot better than what the globals were putting in because the globals were wanting to destabilize islam to break its borders put radicals in and then use it as a weapon against the west so this is a very sophisticated problem we face but

it'd be like if i was say Jewish this is gonna go well germany was 1939 germany and i was in another country here we go say paris and i'm in a restaurant and then there's a couple nazis in there i would be sure i would argue it's not similar at all and days before this you had steve pochanik on denying the holocaust so calm down with this bullshit this is insane levels of just say you get afraid of people who don't look and act like you right i don't even hear any of his words in the beginning he said i'm scared of them right i mean just say that that's why you're a racist don't justify it with this bullshit trying to justify it and he's also trying to rationalize

why him being afraid doesn't make him weak yeah that's all that's going on you're a giant coward and you're afraid of engaging with people who are different than you so you go on this weird wild nonsense and you make up bullshit right in order to justify the fact that you just want to be you alone with white people just say that in a nation of them yeah Jesus so but the thing is that alex is recognizing some differences in the world and that is that now he goes to a hamburger shop and he sees muslims there yes whereas in the past he didn't i mean at a mcdonald's it would be fine but this is dan's hamburger again not my hamburger shop it's dan's hamburger i have nothing to do with dan's hamburgers okay it's the fact that i didn't used to see muslims anywhere

if i go to say barton creek mall sometimes it'll be it's seven at night hundreds of women in full burkas i'll be sitting there in restaurants on a routine basis i walk in and i can't eat my dinner i'm there with my daughters and the muslims are looking at my daughters because they're not wearing hijabs and their women have full full face mask on they have to take the fork and eat under it they're in halloween costumes well fuck you and and i don't like it cool you don't like it there you go do you think that there's a possibility that alex is so singularly focused and bigoted towards muslims now in a way that he wasn't before so now he notices them more in public than he did before do you think it's

possible that maybe there maybe there are more muslims around maybe that's possible but maybe they didn't anger him in the same way ten years ago mattress stores there were until i needed a mattress and then i was like holy cow there are mattress stores every around here but when i got the mattress store i know i don't even know about mattresses anymore even better example i didn't notice how many mattress stores there were until someone made a joke around me about how many mattress stores they were and then i started noticing everywhere they're everywhere alex is hanging around with a bunch of goddamn aggressively islamophobic people now he's certainly gone much farther down that path than he was ten years ago so now of course every single

time he sees a muslim it's a threat to him yeah whereas before it wasn't this is not good thinking on his part no so and i can't and the thing that bumps me out is that maybe there's no better example or or or like representation of a culture assimilating into america then going and hanging out at a fucking mall we'll get back to that like that's america's shittiest export and if you're there you're in man that's an important thought and we'll get back to that here in a second once alex talks some more ship okay great um this is just i mean it's i i can't really introduce these clips uh in any other way than just saying alex is a white nationalist colon the next clip preemptive like just harsh condemnation full stop here's what alex has to

say we don't wear halloween costumes in america unless it's halloween we don't make women wear bags over their heads and then the left sycophantically loving it and promoting it and coddling it and making sure little girls wear full the face mask in school and little girls take them off and the school reports them their parents they get beaten what about nuns how does he feel about nuns they're sick evil filth and pedophilia is rampant in islam oh here's the thing it's like somebody feed me poison i'm throwing it up so that's where i stand on this is that the real threat is the open borders and trump's been trying to shut the massive islamic surge of this country that obama started down and that's why i support trump go back to their own islamic

countries where they live in the stone ages and and and murder your women and do whatever you want just stay the hell out of my country it's important to remember that what sparked this rant is alex talking about seeing two groups of people he assumed were moslems at a hamburger place the night before when he's talking about how these people need to go back to their countries and more important to alex stay out of his country he's not talking about anyone who's guilty of the sort of behaviors he's describing like killing women or pedophilia this is the response that he has to people he assumes are moslems being in a restaurant this is a deep level of bigotry and i want to say from my assessment from everything that i know from

listening to so much alex this is the real alex jones oh yeah weak scared and hateful yep he's unable to enjoy his food because he's around people who are members of a group he doesn't like he's terrified to see people who don't look like him or live a different way than he does allowed to exist in society it's a childish seething rage and he should be embarrassed by how transparently pathetic this is anyway it's you i i i've always wondered uh like how is it that somebody could be in the 1950s and so furious that a black person just wants to eat at a restaurant yeah weird how is that possible like alex so crazy to me and then it's 2019 and alex is doing it and i'm like oh it's just because you're a fucking coward you're a fucking pathetic weak worthless human

being i mean one of those people um in that uh you know civil rights era probably would have been able to make very similar arguments that alex is making no of course there is a go back to africa yeah there's a safety issue with a lie they're touching our women they we don't do that to our women they do it to women once the society gets to 10 black we can't allow that to happen exactly what if we get oh man none of this stuff is new the do the thing i do uh i do think that he doesn't realize is that somebody is feeding him poison and he is spitting it back up at us but he is feeding it to himself exactly well his friends are feeding him islamophobic and then you add in his supplements yeah poison all over the place so when alex gets back from that break

that he was just going out to i think he recognizes i went a little bit hard there that was a little bit of a rant yeah and so he tries to address it i'm your racist don't call it thanksgiving he makes it a little worse by trying to address the fact that he just went on a islamophobic rant all right i needed to go to the beginning of trump's speech that he just completed about 30 minutes ago in the last segment but i went into a rant about the islamification of the west and now the two things just are not compatible and how they're not they were at a mall adopting our ways they're trying to make us adopt their ways and it's a fact i completely reject alex's argument about these muslims just making him mad because they aren't adopting whatever he thinks

our ways are and you're totally they're eating a dance hamburger exactly that's the reason that's the reason because when he gets the most mad at specific muslims it's generally a situation where he sees muslims integrated yeah he yells abstractly about muslims and islam in general quite a bit but there's something different and more intense about these rants that he goes on when he sees like muslim women at the pool supply shop or them at the hamburger store this is the thing alex wants a holy war between islam and christianity he wants a new crusade but he knows that in the modern civilized world he can't call for that no but what he can do is create constant narratives about islam being incompatible with the west and paint the picture

that they're already in a holy war against him this is why muslims in a pool supply shop or a hamburger stand completely fuck him up it's because they're proof that muslims are perfectly compatible with our way of life when alex sees muslims engaging in the exact same behaviors as he himself is engaging in it's a strong indication that coexistence is not only possible but it's happening and that's threatening to his belief in and desire for civilizational level conflict alex isn't really mad when he sees news of an islam extremist carrying out like let's say a knife attack in the uk that conforms that's what they are that conforms to his worldview it's not threatening to him he also knows that he can use that what infuriates him is things like

this muslims getting a hamburger yep he's a pathetic sack of shit yep this is disgusting that is the heart of white nationalism is railing against all it's not possible for them to assimilate and then when they do they're like and that's it and that's how we get trump yep the end yeah but alex he doesn't hate muslims sure he just hates all non whites that would be racist for you to say that he hates muslims i would beg to differ with his assessment except for part of it like the first part i disagree with second part of his statement completely agree with i don't hate muslims yes you hear them yeah i fear being conquered

well i don't i don't agree with the last part but i do agree that he is scared he is very scared yeah but he also hates muslims oh yeah but here's the thing you know what's interesting muslims are really bad to alex right but there's some people who are worse and i think that might be is it us i think it might be us it's you and me yeah are we race trainers dad the ideology and the and the political islam that's expansive is like cancer but you know what it's a lot better cancer than the left hey satanism i'll say it islam is better than occultic leftism which is your satanism that's what i ran points that and goes look the america is the great satan well if you're watching hollywood over there from their culture it is the great satan sure but that's not america i would

suggest that when they talk about that stuff they're not talking about movies they're talking about foreign policy yeah they're they're not as petty and stupid as someone like alex who just gets bogged down in cultural issues and little petty grievances about women in lead roles and movies and shit and they're that's not the thing that they're operating off of it's what we have done to the middle east in the past 20 years sure and longer but have you seen oblivion dan right so alex is talking a bit about how islam has an evil spirit right that's kind of sure something in you know ideas have spirits places oh god have spirits are we getting but play dough all up in here or what are we doing i'm not entirely sure okay he's read it but

places have energies sure spirit sure so he gives the example that san francisco terrible spirit there's a place where the spirit was pretty good to him dan's hamburgers nope uh but san francisco has a hellish energy la has a hellish energy i've been around hillary clinton she has a hellish energy janet rino has a hellish energy places have an energy that's probably true i felt psychotically powerful at stonehenge without it wasn't placebo i like all of a sudden walked up and then the park ranger was a professor and he goes yeah about 30 of people have had that effect when they crossed that line right there it's like what is about this place but some places have their own energy but individuals have their own energy

and you know i could get seduced by the energy of stonehenge this is just a ridiculous show i don't even i yeah i'm the i'm the professor of walking across imaginary lines i would love to have been there on that trip to stonehenge man i kind of would too just watching alex pretend to freak out i've been stonehenge i'm connected to my druidic roots it might be a calendar i don't know so alex talks a little bit more about how going to stonehenge made him feel violent and okay well then i think his belief system is not compatible with americas might not be but then he says some dumb shit that is not true i don't know i had to get away from stonehenge because you know that feeling was wow but you know i don't want to

i don't want to get away from this and and it did make me feel violent that's why they took people there and killed the people using human sacrifice site so there's a lot going on in the world ladies and gentlemen and i'm not going to submit to the energy force of islam great it should be pointed out that stonehenge is in wiltshire england it's not a site where experts believe human sacrifice was carried out now however there is another similar site in germany which is closer to what alex is talking about an article in the smithsonian includes this line quote it shares similarities with its famed cousin in britain and its builders perform many of the same rituals though they added a new twist human sacrifice hey the words

new twist certainly should get the message across to people who study that people who study stonehenge don't believe that it was used as a human sacrifice site even in the case of the german site the only they only say that human sacrifice is quote a likely scenario while pointing out that the trauma of the bodies found there could have alternative explanations like inter conflict intergroup conflicts that sort of thing raids there's one skeleton that was found around the year 2000 from stonehenge uh that people they've theorized could be the victim of sacrifice but other believe that the evidence could point up in plenty of other directions and also the person that the skeleton is of they would have died in around 600 ad which is way too late for stonehenge

yeah given that this is like one of the only real pieces of evidence that tends towards the conclusion of human sacrifice taking place at stonehenge it would be pretty irresponsible to jump to the conclusion just from that without any supporting evidence a lot of the beliefs that dumb people like alex have about stonehenge come from 17th century historians whose theories about stonehenge being a druidic temple have been thoroughly debunked but the these ideas are really popular for a while there was one stone there that was nicknamed the slaughtering stone because rainwater would pool in it in turn red the imagination was uh you know that this is proof of long lingering blood but it's really just the result of algae and iron yeah i was going to say

that sounds more like iron they figured that out but it how it was really popular and it gets into people's imagination of course it's giant stones hanging around in a circle from the past what are you talking about there's a whole lot of bullshit surrounding stonehenge and it appears that alex believes all of it to the point where he's able to whip himself into a frenzy just by being near it and i should stress whip himself into a magic magic god forbid he ever goes to israel he's a shape changer oh he's going to have messiah he's going to get Jerusalem syndrome so bad i'm certain he would go to israel and declare himself the messiah absolutely he already halfway has yeah god somebody somebody go fund me to just get him out of here so there's these spirits and

energies of of certain things islam is bad great christ is good sure sure i'm not going to submit to the energy force of islam because it's creepy it's oppressive when i'm around it i don't like it but the energy of christ is pure and is clean and is good and is peaceful and is the quiet place of the most high that psalms talks about and that's the place we want to go so i'm glad that trump's de-escalating but a clash between the west and islam's been set up and we need to wall it off and hope that they can fix themselves and have a reformation but it's not going to be bringing in all the muslims and us conforming to them i'm gonna fight it you're gonna fight it and islam will not prevail against what's left of christendom and we're about to see the biggest revival we've ever seen i believe

but i'm gonna stop preaching uh good stop preaching uh because this is not this is not good i mean nothing he's saying makes any sense wall it off fight what are you talking about no no so no but here's the problem alex is operating off like a really dumb assumption and that is expressed in this clip i don't want to be an enemy of islam but i'm a christian and i'm not converting and i know you want to conquer me so stop it i'm not in your country that you took from christians and others uh what i want i'm defending myself but i'm done that said i don't want these wars and i think the listeners are in the same bubble we're gonna go over all of it i don't think islam wants him i don't i don't think i think he's operating off

a false assumption are you saying are you saying nobody's actively recruiting alex right now i don't think so okay i think uh i think that is just weird uh paranoia who uh who does is i i don't think islam has recruiters just uh going out like not army-based recruiters like like the guys you would see in your high school lunch room i don't know i don't know enough but i have been to mosques before and i have not felt they were trying to convert me per se no no no i don't i don't know how alex is doing with his uh occupied texas fortified compound all the muslims trying to get him yeah and in fact if you've ever seen a morning prayer uh it's the energy is really good not according to alex it's really good so he gets off this islamophobic chunk here and starts talking

about the night before and how the media was covering things uh they were he plays what he thinks is a gotcha clip from i believe msnbc share about the reporting of possible fatalities and deaths uh in the attack on the bases in iraq he thinks this is a gotcha but it's not and i want to play this clip because last night i'm up here and i noticed we started reporting because it was on msnbc that oh iran is saying 20 dead 30 dead 18 dead and i just said listen iran's going to say that to their own domestic population we're not hearing those reports and sure enough it turned out those were false reports not our reports we were just reporting what was being reported which is uh normal but but just saying we don't believe this and thank god it wasn't true now

let's play clip 12 msnbc amplified fake news that iranian attack had killed 30 us soldiers here at ish we're just getting reports now that a second wave of rocket launch rocket attacks have been launched uh from iran the irgc was saying that ayatollah khamenei the supreme leader of this country was in the control center coordinating these attacks uh this is uh um this bit i i'm not sure about but iran state media is claiming that 30 us soldiers have been killed in this attack and now this is not confirmed this is just coming from iranian media but we have just you should have left that part out precipice chris uh we have entered a very unpredictable time we have to see what the response is going to be from the united states but we did not step over the precipice

thank god that could mean any number of things stepping over the precipice uh it's not does not mean something necessarily specific you're right you should have cut that part out because the guy is clearly saying that hey you know take this with a grain of salt this is what iranian media is saying yeah but uh we are not clear on this it might not be true so that's called responsible reporting alex is saying that msnbc fucked this up and they're amplifying fake news whereas he did not and this is when i realized alex probably did a live stream the night before any almost certainly absolutely well i thought i thought i would check in and see so now we're gonna let's do a little bit of alex's live stream there we go here is alex speculating that an

all out war is starting sure and the planes reportedly were launched about an hour ago and uh i mean obviously the iranians know those are coming i'm not giving out any secrets here like herald rivera the middle of the second iraq war giving out positions but um this is a big bold move and all hell is breaking loose and of course there's going to be bombers and stuff launched from other areas the ships uh if this happens but tonight is one where there's a very good chance all that war is going to break out we pray that is not the case uh but uh this source on thursday who we're going to call her about 10 minutes to get on uh said it's going kinetic they're about to hit the iranian leadership and he says sleeper cells are activated whole nine yards

he was just in iraq i'm going to leave it at that so alex has a source that's telling him it's about to go connecticut sleeper cells are active all that war there's a good chance we pray it's not going to happen but good chance all that war is breaking out tonight oh it's a good thing responsible reported the good thing that he didn't amplify fake news from uh a wrong state government from a source yeah yeah his his is really solid reporting alex is sitting in studio with oan shroyer and alex needs to go call this source to figure out what's going on sure so oan starts speculating about things the narrative is solemony killed some people think it's good some people think it's bad well it worked on iran or iraq now you feel that you have to retaliate you do you strike air

us bases in iraq i've been i've read reports up to 20 or more dead us citizens and so now what well now what does trump have to do i i mean looks like one option folks i mean i look i don't see trump not responding to this and then you really cross your fingers and hope i mean i i don't even want to say it folks but i mean we know how open the border's been you know really really really so you know what's going to happen really the whole country of iran iran is going to come in through mexico yes ah man this is a good that was a good plan good speculation yeah you know here's a little bit more here's where things get really interesting in the live stream from the night at the seventh alex is talking about this you know some people

are saying that there's 20 dead but he has a more important narrative that he wants to pitch which is his way of making himself a major part of the story now we're going to go over all of this is as an unfolds but they're all over the news saying look for counter strikes look for attacks reportedly uh as you said some say 15 some say 18 some say 20 we hope none but we will just type in you know us troops killed us servicemen killed we're not sure uh but we're going to continue in there or i can go off air again and go search it myself um pull all that up tonight as we're live but i know this as all this was about to break we got a giant denial of service attack today that was definitely institutional so the establishment there's not iran launching this

does not want us on air because they know we'll just try to figure out what's going on hey you know that we're we're we're victims in this too you know we're a big target we're a huge target of this because we're going to tell the truth and the man doesn't want us to so alex is speculating about the uh the deaths but at the same time he's not saying you know he is giving it a little bit of a we don't know i guess yeah now the larger speculation that's going on irresponsible but in the specific case of this right it's not he's not doing exactly what msnbc is doing more or less well i think msnbc was much more concise about yes that's true they were they were a little bit he was saying they're reporting this we hope it's not which suggests you know that it could be yeah

yeah and alex goes to a live feed of fox news because he gets kind of like i don't have the information yeah let's go to a live feed i'll look into stuff a little bit and then wow the msnb or i'm sorry the fox news part is playing alex gets caught on a hot mic but let's go ahead and go to a live fox feed right now given the intelligence which started to come out tonight um at a top level meeting where uh the gang of eight was given some information about what that intelligence held and we're going to learn more about that potentially tomorrow so you can hear him say i'm not going to do the show until i get numbers yeah because i think he knows i got to have this we got to know what we're talking about yeah but that's interesting why was why was his mic still on

that mic should have been off yeah are there amateurs working the board does he have a diminished staff is this going to be a problem later we'll see okay so alex all right comes back from starting to think those were rhetorical questions yes they might be so alex comes back from the fox news feed sure and i think actually you know i looking into initially why i jumped to the live stream was to see if he was being unfair about his own coverage about the deaths right and i think he's not i think he's uh when he comes back here's what he says and i think it's totally fair all right we are live and there's been a bunch of people and news organizations on twitter reporting trips dead we're glad to tell you that we've not found anything um that is documenting that so

we're just glad that that is uh false reports what what has been confirmed is iran's taking credit so that's you know he's saying eight people are talking about this we can't uh find confirmation of it great yeah so now you know alex earlier said that he had a source yes guess who that source was zack you back knew it zack is back i knew it i knew it was coming yeah i knew he was going to make a return journey uh huh absolutely so in the live stream alex did this evening on the seventh in response to the missile attack he had zack back on for those of you new to the show zack was alex's fake intelligence source who was an attempt to take over the internet space that was occupied by q anon also the star of saved by the bell i mean when zack was on the show uh back on

january fifth 2018 alex literally called him quote our real q anon absolutely that effort an attempt to co-opt q anon failed pretty hard mostly since the q people didn't like alex at all and think he's controlled opposition so there's really nothing he can do to win them over strangely enough mark paul gossler is q it's a really weird twist it's a really weird working with screech screech is doing the uh the the tech stuff is he back in jail maybe i haven't heard zack on for a while but interestingly whereas in the past alex had been hiding his identity his name is public now his name is zackary lee claw on and the credit his official title that's given on the chiron on it for wars yeah think tank engineer which i think is mysterious i don't know i don't care okay one

thing i noticed is that zack doesn't really sound the same to me his voice itself is close enough that it doesn't make me suspicious that it's a different person okay but the way he's speaking is totally different back when he was anonymous he spoke with authority but now it's much more suggestive he's being very hinting he's making the argument on this episode that obama sending money to iran as part of the nuclear deal uh which was iran's money financed this attack but he's not saying that he's hinting at it which seems weird if he's a high level intelligence guy and all that he shouldn't need to use the same dumb rhetorical tricks alex does also he calls the irgc the iranian revolutionary guard corpse which seems weird i feel like every military

person in the world knows how to pronounce core in the interview he says the word problematic about a thousand times also he just keeps saying things are problematic which makes him sound like a dumb dog it sounds very problematic anyway now that i have zack's name i can tell you a little bit more about it let's hear about zack before there really wasn't anything to go on to look into who he was like i just had the name zack and like some of his family lives in morocco that's not a lot to go on but now i can introduce you to zack claw on let's find out zack went to high school at braden river high school in brendon florida oh that's the same high school q went to no it's the childhood home though that town of mlb great carlton fisk hey he was a real piece of

shit racist he also has a great name and there is a rapper i think it was on no limit records named carlton fisk yeah he always thought was me and my buddy nicky gift so i thought that was really funny that this guy choosing a rap name just chose carlton fisk yeah why not so zack and i have something in common in that we both didn't finish high school i dropped out but zack was actually expelled from school for having a gun on school grounds as reported in a 2008 article in the herald tribune the article was about how ten students were barred from graduation ceremonies because of explicit and threatening rap songs they'd performed and posted online i believe as the article is saying on myspace apparently they were pretty antagonistic to their rival high school

lakewood ranch and the song included lyrics like quote lakewood boys is gonna bleed zack had been kicked out of school for having a gun the year prior but was still one of the rappers on this track threatening his old school's rival so that tells me he's very cool to be clear i'm less concerned with the rap song you know i don't you know whatever people do yeah yeah no people do dumb stuff we have mutual friends who have done sure rap song youtube videos in the past i'm just more interested in the fact that he had a gun at school that to me is much a bigger of a deal i just think that this rap song is a bit dorky if if it was reversed i would assume you were rush limbaugh from the nineties i am more angry about this rap music than i am about yeah you

you should have guns on school campus right but this rap music yeah so after this zack enlisted in the army and he reached the rank of specialist by 2010 which is the rank just directly above private first class that year zack went public with allegations that he'd been harassed in the service because he's a muslim in the an article in abc news zack tells a story of being the subject of abuse as soon as basic training started with his drill instructor singling him out and mocking the idea of him attending islamic religious services he was specifically selected to portray a terrorist in training exercises a fellow soldier desecrated his coran by tearing out pages and tossing them around they would call him quote rag head sand monkey and zackery bin laden one day

three weeks into his time at fort hood zack found a piece of paper in the windshield wiper of his truck that said quote hey carpet jockey go back where you came from after the fort hood shooting it got so bad that he had to be moved off the base for his own safety in 2010 there were memos written i i found these memos yeah that were written by the office of the under secretary of defense regarding zack's allegations of harassment in the memos it says quote the attached letter addressed to the secretary of defense concerns alleged harassment of a muslim soldier assigned to fort hood the letter is from the council on american islamic relations on behalf of army specialist zackery claw on alex's repeatedly and consistently called care a terrorist organization

but when zack was dealing with a very serious situation he was uh they were who he went to for help sure after this zack went on cnn and al jazeera to do interviews about how the army had ignored his compliance about religious harassment and how there's a serious problem with islamophobia in the military i found some blogs talking about him having a lawsuit against the army but i don't fully trust those sites and i wasn't able to find concrete evidence of the lawsuit though i accept it's probably true sure he probably did have this lawsuit yeah i don't care to comb through zack social media posts or anything like that but a couple of interesting things do come up if you google his name one is his linkedin page which says that he's retired

from the army i'm not positive when he left but i would not be surprised if it wasn't too long after he started going around domestic and foreign news programs talking about how the army training includes propaganda against islam they usually don't by the way his words yeah well i mean i'm i like i like it doesn't like i don't believe that right another thing you can find is a profile for zackary claw on on explore talent a website for people uh looking to book acting gigs the page isn't very active and honestly i can't even really be sure that it wasn't made by someone else trying to make it look like he's an actor sure i have no fucking idea whatever but it does come up and who knows what that means i can find no indication that zack has any relation to the military at this

point in his life other than that he used to be a specialist in the army i can find no evidence that he was in the intelligence field and honestly a lot of that stuff just seems to be made up my heart goes out to him for the harassment he said he had to endure while he was enlisted but i can't help but wonder how he could possibly be the type of person who would go on the news and do interviews about anti muslim bigotry in the army and also the type of person who would be okay associating with alex jones an extreme anti muslim bigot i could speculate on that but it would be kind of pointless as it stands now i just don't think that there's anything reason to take anything he's saying to alex seriously yeah he was formerly in the military but so what so was the dude who lived

next door to me when i was 19 who i smoked weed with yeah but how's he doing he had some interesting ideas what's he up to now maybe we should give him a call and see what's going on i did i the last time i was in columbia i did go find him yeah it was nice to to hang out again oh that's cool yeah it was just a situation where i was 19 what's the what's the news what's up what's the news there wasn't he got clean which was actually pretty good from the army no no from drugs i was i was happy for him at that point but it was a situation where i had a lot of weed and he was you know living on a on a controlled income and sure he would i would come over bring a joint with smoke and he'd just tell me stories of like his life after coming back from vietnam and stuff stuff like that so

yeah i mean but he had some pretty interesting theory right right i would take them as seriously as i'm going to take anything that zack says yeah that's probably quite frankly that's a smart move yeah so um zack is on and and and really it's an interesting portrait because i think the fact brought him to school and got expelled is relevant but also like not the biggest deal in the world because i don't know if there's any indication that he brought it in a threatening way i still think it's way out of line i think it getting expelled for that is a hundred percent worth yeah that's that's yeah get the fuck relevant get the fuck out it's it's a good response but i don't know if it was a situation where he was threatening anybody it could just be a thing

i mean i think it's entirely possible that maybe he had gun in a in his car still bad sure sure not the same as bringing it to school to threaten people but it i think the most important thing is this there's a lot of trail in his life that is speaking out against anti-muslim bigotry in the army it makes no sense for him to be on info wars there's something up here yeah i don't know what it is it could be a situation where he lost it he completely sure but also you could see a situation where because of his experiences because of the inaction on the part of the army he could have a really serious resentment against the united states government and the army itself sure you could see him gravitating towards alex because of some sort of an anti-government fascination

that he is built because of his experience could be or it could just be something like entirely craven like i i don't know i lean i mean i lean immediately to if you are on alex's show today there is some scam activity in your past i don't know what it is i'm not going to say that it and you know i'm not going to say that his harassment stuff was fabricated or any of that nonsense i i don't know but everything is suspect everything is suspect after that i don't i don't trust any part of what you say happened i have no reason to not trust his experience in the army like i don't i don't have any reason to distrust that but other than he's on info wars today that's my that's my reason it is tough it's tough that's where that's where i come from sure

so zak is on and most of it is just this he's trying to imply that the iran deal obama giving iran its money back is funding these attacks it's really basically his big point and the timeline is this in 2016 the obama administration allowed 1.7 billion dollars in cash to flood into iran on record no big deal that's new york times that's us angeles times that's verified by the treasury they allowed 1.7 billion dollars to flood into iran and now we see the situation we have so he's just spouting a fairly popular conspiracy theory among the right and that is that obama is fun has funded this it's it's it's ridiculous what what kind of idiot says 1.7 billion dollars flooded into i flooded flooded into i what how did it flood into iran well the damn burst and oh

okay then the money the money you wave took over yeah gotcha yeah gotcha so um here's where i think everything gets incredibly suspicious and all of the pieces sort of come together alex has earlier said that there was this denial of service attack going on on info wars alex earlier got caught on a hot bike zek is a suspicious character all of that merges into play in this next clip put your mic down for this because this is so fucked up the point in the accurate intel is that they are targeting and let's say they when you talk about cuts forces when you talk about individuals who happen to be in the country around the world who are well trained and getting orders is to attack social media influencers media influencers protectors of america people who have a platform

political figures and eventually with the fat one the bounty on the president of the united states head do you hear that i think i heard him burp no here listen to that just that part where he got caught on oh just that part no i swear i heard him burp earlier in the clip no i think he accidentally like uh hit the table and it made a brunt i i know it went but i not here listen to this okay he's saying brain dead this is pretty good this is pretty good yeah i heard this is brain dead this is pretty good it's that you're right it is pretty good alex is having severe problems with knowing when his mic is on during this live stream i would guess it's because he can't afford to pay the whole crew to be there for an off hours impromptu live stream whatever

the case he has zack prattling on about how social media influencers and defenders of america are the real targets according to his intel and wouldn't you know it alex is pretending that he was having a d dos attack earlier in the stream it's almost like this is all planned out it's almost like they're all working on some kind of a narrative building thing i don't so you're saying that all of these things put together would suggest the conclusion that they want you to draw i don't get where you're coming from i would strongly suspect that's a coincidence that the news is i would strongly suspect that i was being paranoid and making things up but in that clip you can hear alex thinking he's off mic say to oan schreuer who's in studio with him this is

pretty good what's pretty good the idea that iranians are gonna attack social media influencers and patriots because if that were true that's absolutely not good that would be bad especially for a patriot self identified social media influencer like alex it's super good however if you know that it's bullshit and you're trying to run a pageant it does it does seem like a there's there's no fear of actual reattaliation there here's what i know alex is saying this is pretty good to oan because he knows that the angle is pretty good one as a way to make the story about himself hopefully to boost traffic to info wars and make some money and zack is clearly a participant but i'm not sure how much of that is based on like collaboration between him and alex

or how much it's just him knowing what alex likes and needs yeah i don't know what's going on here precisely but whatever it is falls directly under the headline of uh like manipulation yeah yeah yeah for alex was talking about the d dos attack earlier it's possible that zack was listening to him looking for clues of ways to build on the narrative sure and he's operating completely on his own it's also possible that when alex called him earlier before having him on yeah he was saying like all right look angle we're going with is the iranians are going to be attacking me right and so zack is presenting his intel like that it's possible that it's a collaborative effort possible that zack is just intuitive enough to understand the fact that alex thinks his

mic is off and says this is pretty good is fucked up sure now i will pause it one alternative to you and i will admit that it is unlikely it certainly makes less narrative sense than what you've got going on but it's more likely than zero percent and that is that alex did burp earlier and he is telling oan that the the sandwich he is eating is delicious well the camera is not on him when this is happening so i can't say that but when it the camera does come back there's no food or drink there's no food or drink ah man he could have gotten right he could have put it underneath the he could have put it underneath the desk it's possible and i will always i will always entertain the possibility that he is eating or drinking something it's important not to jump to

conclusions and so like yes there is other possible explanations for why he would say this is pretty good to oan while spur in the middle of his fake intelligence source saying that you guys are the real target yeah of course so of course there is possible other explanations but whatever man likes to eat while he's on there whatever no because he went to dan's hamburgers after this oh that's true yeah he's not eating a sandwich dangerous dangerous yeah absolutely i mean look he's he's actually eating some halal strangely enough strangely enough whatever is going on here is deeply suspicious yeah that's no no i don't i i believe you i was listening to this i i just thought like i mean first of all it's interesting now that we know who zack is to get a picture of him

and see how incongruous what he's doing now is with what he was doing let's say eight years ago yeah you got to wonder what is the reason for that why why is that going on obviously fucking kud's forces aren't attacking alex no no no they're they're really not as interested with social media influencers as zack would have you believe or dumb radio shows that's usually but alex is using zack his high profile intelligence fake q and on guy to push forth and to launder the narrative that his intel sources are saying that people like alex are going to be the targets it's just all very suspicious it was it was weird whenever i looked up anti alex jones podcast and there was ours and the kud's there they have their own knowledge fights i don't know i don't know how

to say it in uh yeah yeah so alex we now jump back to the eighth because the rest of that stream is a disaster he takes some calls and then leaves and greg reese one of his employees and oh and shroyer takes more phone calls and then oh and leaves and gets replaced by eris and smith right who cares it goes on forever and they just take a bunch of dumb calls the true news of the night though is alex saw people who were muslim in dan's later later exactly yes that's the headline that's the headline um alex kind of just leaves after he talks to zack because i think he's gotten what he needs out of it right right we've we've established we got the narrative tomorrow we're going to run with it i don't think he's running with it the next day though i don't see him saying

they're going to attack info wars or anything of course because that would be too smart to run with the narrative that you established the night before right i don't i think it's more like this is going to work for the immediate and allow people or it'll lead people to keep their eyes glued to this uh this stream yeah i i think it's more of that and then fundraise as best you can on the live stream sure sure sure i i i get the sense that that's the case because the next day he's just hating islam like right the next day it's not well he got distracted because most of the people are real right so he comes back on the eighth and he starts taking some calls and he gets a caller from finland um who says some really fucked up things what info wars is doing is

like a church mission a church is where people gather to find and to get revelations from god to pray and to get revelation and then you get a mission based on that and you go out and you act and that is in my opinion what info wars is doing and i i really do believe it is important that we start tithing so we got a church uh of info wars now we got a we got a tithe to info wars right i mean alex has said that in the past that's true these callers saying it is very strange i i don't like it's very it's disturbing i i if you are from finland you're not allowed to tithe to info wars i would specifically finland i don't know why finland's off the list you have some strange lines i do i do so that call is great alex is like yeah everyone should give me money

hooray um and he takes another call from a guy named scottie in virginia who is calling in to tell alex that he's starting a militia because of the gun grabbing that's right right that's not happening again for a the 20th consecutive year of there may be some gunway relations that end up being introduced in virginia sure sure but the extent to which the extreme right is very paranoid about this right certainly not in uh in appropriate measure right um but so this guy is calling in and saying he's going to start a militia and alex says something really dumb last time i checked it's only a couple counties that are in northern virginia that are democrats but almost all the other counties over 90 uh are saying we're not turning the guns in and the sheriffs have had press conferences

and they've had hundreds and sometimes thousands of people at the county commission meetings all agreeing that's local government saying we don't agree to the king of england taking our guns just because the king of virginia king and northam is controlled by the globalist doesn't mean we're going to turn them in and and and so the democrats are spoiling to start a fight well this isn't going to be like eisenhower sitting in the army's a little black girls can go to school everybody agreed with that pretty much you didn't this is the for wouldn't have guns and it's not going to work so uh we'll get to that in a second but alex is sadly not too far off there are a lot of counties in virginia that have passed these gun sanctuary resolutions which

is not sure granted this is a completely symbolic gesture and means nothing from a legal perspective but i would say it's a pretty good indication of the mood mary mccord the legal director for the georgetown university law centers institute for constitutional advocacy and protection uh recently wrote a piece in the washington post that had an interesting take on this gun sanctuary trend that's going on stop it you morons from the article quote virginia state law prohibits local governments from enacting ordinances or resolutions that are inconsistent with state laws and more directly specifically prohibits local governments from regulating firearms that's going to be a problem for alex so i wonder why that's not a federal law that is a state law so unless he's

going to amend his position uh that the constitution uh you know he says he's gonna have to say it's really about the counties right or something he's gonna have to recognize that these county resolutions are meaningless now there's there's only one thing that these guys believe which is that democracy is great so long as everybody agrees with what i say and if by some evil circumstance the evil democrats who disagree with me steal their way into office i ignore them completely because democracy isn't democracy unless everybody agrees with me states rights except except so the article goes on to mention that uh an 1886 supreme court ruling presser versus illinois ruled that the second amendment quote does not prevent the prohibition of private

paramilitary organizations which it's noted are actually illegal according to the constitutions of 48 states including virginia this is a problem because at this point in the episode like i said alex is on the phone with this guy who's literally talking about how he's organizing a private militia this is a public discussion of an explicit crime and a violation of the virginia constitution people like alex and the oath keepers are whipping gun weirdos into a complete frenzy that could lead to dangerous results their argument is bad local governments can't do anything close to what they're pretending they can and if a local government is in opposition to the laws of the state their only real recourse is to challenge the state law in court which would

likely not work in this case they kind of know that that path wouldn't work so it looks like they're committed to angling for some kind of a standoff which is a really bad sign yeah and also alex can fuck himself with that pretty much everyone supported eisenhower sending in the national guard to protect the black students in little rock when the schools were desegregated bullshit don't you remember dan whenever you look at uh whenever you look at all those videos of people watching everyone's in favor everybody was like yay there were definitely no like newspaper articles after newspaper articles decrying how evil and tyrannical it was that eisenhower would have the gall the gall to enforce yeah the constitution they love so much

and i would ask this question right off the bat if pretty much everyone was for it why was it necessary to send in the national guard uh uh uh uh uh because that one single school was against it maybe it's because a whole lot of people were super racist and not in favor of integration i don't want to descend too deeply into this issue but you know who is super not into eisenhower sending the national guard to protect these students the john birch society george wallis six years after eisenhower sent in the guard then governor of alabama george wallis held his stand in the schoolhouse door event where racists tried to keep schools segregated by physically blocking black students from entering this was part of his philosophy which if you recall was

segregation now segregation tomorrow segregation forever you can't prove he said that unless there's audio a lot of it i bring this up because wallis physically tried to stop black kids from going to school in 1963 which brought him a bunch of attention it also required jfk to federalize the alabama national guard to get wallis to stop being an asshole wallis being a national star among racists after this point he really arose in ascendancy and he parlayed that into presidential runs in 1964 and 1968 so many of alex's spiritual ancestors were george wallis supporters gary allen the guy who wrote alex jones's favorite book none dare call it conspiracy served as wallis's speech writer during both of his presidential campaigns now he did though agree

with eisenhower sure that he should have sent that sure yeah george wallis's campaign deployed rhetoric that mirrored that of the john birch society and he actually said i have no problem with the john birch there we go there and his staff was full of birchers and he almost chose a notorious bircher as rataft benson as his running mate benson as a prominent Mormon and anti-communist provides a link to w cleon scousen the george wallis campaigns for president are inexorable from the swap from which alex's worldview emerged it takes some brass balls for him to pretend that pretty much everyone was for eisenhower calling in the national guard when almost literally everyone he admires and considers a hero of modern history actively fought against that and for the man who

wanted to do the opposite which again i should remind you is keeping black kids out of school yes yes well if they are and the argument continues uh that's it it's ludicrous it's ludicrous for him to get on air be like yeah everyone is for that isn't it amazing how quickly they do that it's so amazing how it only takes one generation of separation for everybody to be like well obviously i would have supported martin luther king jr of course i would have now i voted for trump and i really do love the build the wall to keep out the brown people rhetoric but i love martin luther king jr love it it's even worse it's even worse than just say that you would have been against martin luther king jr you already everybody knows it everybody who shaped alex's worldview his

beliefs his narratives the formative writers and thinkers of his his upbringing sure like his parents were clearly inundated with john birch society material if they weren't actually members but they very much supported eisenhower sending this he believes everything about global conspiracy and all this shit because of the writings of gary allen and w clion scousen right there is no part of what he believes about the world that isn't in some way very closely related to george wallis's campaign that also is connected to all kinds of other horrible shit you know who else was totally in favor of eisenhower doing all that stuff fred trump sure i'm sure he was when he got arrested at that kkk rally he was also protesting uh for eisenhower to send the troops in yeah

sure yeah so go fuck yourself out uh yeah now alex gets to talking about his legal troubles sure his court cases a he believes that these legal sanctions that they're applying are just because they know they can't win the case so they're trying to destroy him that way which is like well just behave differently than and they can't that would be one i don't understand so he is also being sued uh by brennan gilmore who is a guy who alex defamed after the unite the right rally in charlottesville yeah and i believe based on this clip that there might be some news coming out about that he's about to get fucked up on that i think he i think alex is aware that there's going to be some bad news about that case and this may be preemptive damage control

the system knows they can't shut us down with these lawsuits because they're based in in in baloney showed they want the process to shut us down by claiming we're not complying with the process which we are totally we have nothing to hide about virginia or sandy hook what we said on air is what we said oops but then in the in the process of discovery saying we're criminally i don't think that's a good defense for you and oh child porn's found embedded on emails we never opened sent to us about sandy hook since the suit started hidden code that of course they got and found and put on the news that alex jones sent child porn to the sandy hook families that's the type of stuff going on and i've been talking to law enforcement i've been talking to lawyers

and others and there's no doubt that democrat operatives out there are trying to put a federal case on me to put me in jail like roger stuff and i'm not scared they're the crooks they're the bad people whatever they try to cook up i believe god is going to defeat no weapon formed against us shall prosper but if they've already tried to plant child porn on us folks i mean i got a call from dc yesterday that's where this is all being run out of and they said yeah this is the word they're going to try some big stuff next week out of the fake virginia case so just be ready for some really nasty stuff next week because they are pissed that we exist very pissed so look forward to monday probably some some headlines oh boy do you guys send rob do out there again jesus christ

oh that would be what are you doing are we going to get another do position that would be great yeah i i just see like such sad spin well that's not very weak you're going to get some bad news out of virginia but because they're because they hate us not because we're so utterly incompetent right so alex starts rambling about various news headlines and this one caught my fancy because it's very dumb and now juveniles can't be arrested in california if they commit crimes so of course the cartels are going to use kids even more it's crazy this california is out of control mountain lions eating everybody children can't be arrested it's a state you never go to shut up about it except to go do rogan yeah which you desperately want to do no you don't care just

don't care in september 2018 governor jerry brown signed two bills that were aimed at adjusting how children were treated by the courts one of them senate bill 439 made it so except in cases of murder or rape people younger than 12 cannot be prosecuted in court they're still obviously subject to some kind of process whether it's child welfare reviews or psychiatric screenings it's just that the state recognizes that it's probably not cool to treat an 11 year old like they're old enough to be exposed to a criminal justice system no i think it's a good idea to expose children under the age of 12 to horrifying right lawyers into a system that is cruel and pointless yes yes i like it the second bill senate bill 1391 makes it so you can't try somewhat

younger than 16 as an adult they would still be tried for their crimes but they would be sent to a juvenile facility instead of an adult prison if convicted the juvenile justice system already has mechanisms in place to hold someone after they turn 18 if the circumstances require it so it's not like these offenders would just be getting a free pass if they commit a crime at 17 or whatever this is what alex has turned into a narrative that you can't arrest minors in california i think it might be fair to say that in addition to lying alex is also being kind of a racist here according to an article in the sacramento b jerry brown said it was a hard choice to sign this bill but he was swayed to sign the bill based on quote stark racial and geographic disparity in how

young men and women are treated who have committed similar crimes yeah part of what these bills aim to do is to work against a trend of criminalizing behaviors in young non-white people whose actions you might call uh precocious or a mistake where they white this is part of the conversation surrounding these bills so assuming alex knows anything about the subject he's talking about he should know that and he's staunchly opposed to the bills and is trying to encourage his audience to hate the bills by lying about what they do what i'm saying is ultimately he either has no idea what he's talking about or he does and he's lying about bills meant to make the juvenile justice system more fair and equitable neither is good yeah he's an asshole people really don't

want to admit all right never mind white people really don't want to admit that most problems have a massive racial element to them in the country there are very few problems that don't have a massive particularly racial inequality to them particularly in the legal and criminal justice system yeah it's something that they just do not want it's infected not all white people but people like alex particularly they just do not want to unpack that stuff no and it's because if you start pulling that thread then you go all the way back and you're like the very beginning of the criminal justice system is purely discriminatory like slave patrols yeah no kid once you go back you have to admit once again that the united states is a fundamentally racist

country so alex now starts talking about how so i don't i don't quite know how to set this up he believes that there was a source that he was aware of and he knows about that said that three billion people in the world are suffering from iodine deficiency sure now he can only find he can't find that source anymore i don't even think he can find somebody who has an iodine deficiency he starts freaking out about this and it's kind of funny i folks a little bit earlier i was going from memory i was saying three billion people the un says have iodine deficiency and have have had mental disabilities from it but the latest numbers i've got from the national institute of health because wikipedia has changed this entry and removed it probably because we were talking about

it really three billion oh so first of all point of order this was from wikipedia so that's point one number one this says the idd is concerned a public health problem worldwide affecting all groups of people of which children and lactating women are the most vulnerable categories at a global scale approximately two billion people suffer iodine deficiency of which approximately 50 million present the clinical manifestations in daily food intake and i'm going to go into the wikipedia entries and see who removed that because it had links to government reports saying three point two billion and i know we even did shows on that about a month ago and showed it so i'll go into the wikipedia entries but this is so important i should just go off air seriously do it you know

like if a nuke went off over a major city we'd all pause to to to grasp it if 10 million people died or if a wikipedia entry was changed 300 megaton bomb killed everybody but billions get brain damage they admit it and then someone went into wikipedia because we just spent the last few segments looking it up and removed it out and now i went and found it we went and found it actually the boom operator found it in the national institutes of health was he on his phone and other organizations saying two billion people so again that's a big deal and it's a bigger deal who's going into wikipedia and removing the entry that said three billion first i love the idea of alex pulling out like a sherlock Holmes pipe

and playing detective pouring through the edits on wikipedia to see who took down his three billion statistic i have no idea what he's talking about and honestly it's totally possible he's just misrep misremembering something he read on wikipedia or that he's embellished the number to begin with or it's an out of date source or something because there's a lot of progress that's been made globally in terms of iodine deficiency yeah alex is absolutely correct that there are serious problems that come from iodine deficiency including physical and mental disabilities and that according to a recent report from unicef the number of people suffering from the iodine related things it is probably close to about two billion worldwide however

it's important to understand where these two billion people are people suffering from iodine deficiency are almost exclusively in the developing world countries that practice salt iodization eliminate almost all iodine deficiency and between 1990 and 2000 quote 34 countries achieved the elimination of iodine deficiency through universal salt iodization this is a very effective solution to the problem and generally the countries where this is the biggest issue are countries that have economic barriers to importing iodized salt or with producing it domestically or they there's another issue like their war torn to the point where implementing these sorts of programs is just unviable it's just not possible yeah or they have like large

disconnected rural areas where it it's somewhat unfeasible right i'm sure there are several parts of uh india that have serious iodine definitely yeah yeah it's a difficulty but it's a problem yeah that many good people including the un are working towards solving vast numbers of people with iodine deficiency or or who are at an increased risk for it are in india pakistan sudan and afghanistan according to the cdc quote iodine deficiency disorders his goiter cretinism stillbirth spontaneous abortion and retarded physical and intellectual development have been virtually eliminated through the iodization of salt this is important because alex is only talking about any of this because he's trying to sell his iodine pills and the way

he's trying to present pretend that they're important is by citing the statistic that two billion people worldwide are iodine deficient but the thing is the people who are iodine deficient are almost entirely not a part of the market that alex is selling to he's trying to take a very serious issue that people in developing countries are struggling with and that the un is working to resolve and he's using it as a prop to try and convince his audience that maybe there's something wrong with them that iodine pills can solve this is super abusive marketing there is a slight decrease in iodine intake in the united states population that experts and people who look into this stuff have noted but that's kind of a part it's probably due to the

sea salt trend sea salt doesn't generally contain iodine so people who are using mostly sea salt they're not taking in as much iodine as they would if they just use table salt and they should be doing that got you also certain diets have increased in popularity recently like veganism and those also increase your risk for decreased iodine intake based on the things that would be part of your diet i find it unlikely that there are many vegans in alex's audience ten the solution to this problem is not alex's pills no salt it's i halfway expected with the decrease in america experts are like and it's all anti-vaxxers again those guys are fucking everything up it's just salt yep so alex talks about some articles here about iodine and i have

responses to both of them that are just like this is such sloppy amateurish bullshit and i was kind of running around here all aggressively during the break i appreciate the crew this makes me angry but we probably find my old folders on iodine and actually where we had the wikipedia printed and show how they removed it because there's a lot of stuff here's new york times china confronts retardation of millions deficient iodine new york times let's say that's 1996 you don't hear that anymore even though it's worse they're saying pregnant mothers and the dangers of iodine deficiency london guardian 2016 i'm gonna stop ranting i said i'd go to your calls i'm not doing it it just makes me so angry that they want us dumb and want us controlled and yes i went off on the

jab because the caller talked about the product x2 x3 are both excellent sources of iodine x2 this is all sales that's all this is man that first article he's talking about about china from 1996 makes sense the chinese government only introduced assault iodization program in 1995 before which point their population was at a very high risk of deficiency right since that point iodine deficiency is becoming much smaller problem in the country though some problems do remain again when you talk large rural population yeah yeah also when you talk about china it's a gigantic country with a huge population that they all live in a lot of different locales china's learned that the different provinces have different requirements so in 2018 china announced that they

were going to enact different iodine standards depending on local needs for instance some coastal areas have diets that are higher in iodine rich foods so their requirements for supplementation would be lower than people inland and you can end up with uh like some studies have shown that some of the population is actually getting too much iodine right which also isn't healthy right so really what china is doing is trying to make some tweaks to the program based on results right either way how dare they alex is referring to a 24 year old article here so you know he's in bad shit i was gonna i was gonna say just that now this one's from 1996 they don't talk about it anymore it is like alex you know why they don't talk about and they do talk about it but it's about

like the right evolving situation they're trying to they're they're balancing out the iodine diet that's the situation as for the article about pregnancies that also makes total sense when someone is pregnant their dietary needs change what with another person growing inside them some estimates are that their iodine intake should increase around 50 percent and the american academy of pediatrics recommends that uh people take iodine supplements while pregnant and nursing just to be safe it's not a surprise at all that alex could find an article about iodine in pregnancy it just doesn't say what he's pretending it says again big point this is all about sales nothing he's saying depicts reality but he's trying to create a sense in his listeners

that they themselves might be iodine deficient and it's a grand plot by the globalists to dumb everyone down this narrative only exists to get them to buy his pills this is deeply abusive marketing yeah creating a feeling of lack or or or something's wrong with you and it's not it's just gross yeah i mean it's it's just marketing though that's but it's super abusive that's how the i mean yeah but that's how we got a fucking mouthwash sure they invented a problem and then used floor cleaner but it feels minty it does so it does feel milty minty alex gets back and he starts taking some calls and he decides to go to take a call from liberal now if you recall we heard liberal we got liberal a couple days back we got a caribbean accent liberal

yes i love it he called in and had some critiques of alex is a position about iran right a couple days back now liberal calls back in does he have his own show yet uh okay and i don't think he's going to get one after after this one no so he calls in and i don't know exactly what point he would was trying to make but alex i think what happened is that he forgot that who he this caller was i think he forgot that uh he called in and had some judgmental words for alex and but then he hears the voice and he remembers and alex starts screaming at okay of course i think that's what goes on here and it turns into an intensely islamophobic ring sure who's been holding the longest that would be liberal in new york liberal what is your view on the situation

yeah alex um i first i wanted to speak on the iran issue but then i heard the level of aggression that you had towards muslims now be am i right i hide nothing i hide nothing i admit it i'm afraid and i'm angry and i'm not gonna be politically correct if i am if i'm scared of people and i'm scared of lying down i'm gonna be honest i'm not politically correct okay so that is your prerogative alex but the reason why oh my god there weren't any muslims 1400 years ago you run half the planet there weren't any christians never why am i bothering okay okay we'll get you infidel soon you will soon we will put you on galleys and we'll serve us well

tell me i hear the laugh go ahead tell me about him okay okay infidel call me an infidel oh my oh you're going to serve us well but i like you you've got big balls it shows to me alex alex it shows to me the efficacy of it shows to me that you'll serve a swine who will be driven into the ocean i'm just imitating the ayatollah right now no i understand alex but can i get a word in edgewise i just i am an infa call me the answer that is nobody but in any way alex so all i'm seeing is that the efficacy of the propaganda of those that manage all perceptions is great because you

aren't you're too important liberal i'm gonna give you the floor for five minutes and i apologize to you and i show that this graceful western man that needs to be given over to salvation and completion by you and the green flag of alex so i swear i'm going to let you take over on the other side just just don't hang up liberal i apologize i'm gonna stop right now man it feels good to go crazy um this is not a person who's okay that's one of the most stunningly racist things i think i've heard ever yeah and i that one's big yeah and it's not too uncommon for alex you know it's it's

certainly like within his repertoire sure but i think what happened is he heard liberal's voice remembered oh shit this guy took me to the wood shed a couple days ago oh yeah so he has to start turning this into a ridiculous skit he has to scream over him because he knows he can't let him talk uh then alex assumes that liberal is a muslim because he's criticizing alex's horrific anti-islam rant from the beginning of the show so he starts just yelling about how bad muslims are there's no reason like based on the things that liberal has said on the show to assume that he's muslim uh this is just a performance alex is doing this intentionally not because he's so overcome by passion yeah he's he's sure able to reign it in when it's time to get to the breaks

it's not so crazy that he starts swearing on air like this is just a disgusting piece of shit person putting on an act yeah he might as well put his hands over his ears and went because that's all it was not much different that's it so when he comes back alex comes back from that break and he does allow liberal to talk the caller he lays out his point which i think it could be summed up as saying that there's a there's a reason that there's a tension between muslims and christians and that reason is propaganda and alex has a responsibility to his audience to do a better job covering the topic alex admits that there are good muslims but there's also political islam that's evil and so he decides that what he's going to do is he's going

to get up from the desk and go to a big map and he's going to show the spread of islam on the map and that's where this are we are we going to get the warner brothers song no is this yako no but this clip like is an intense intense insane freak out that alex has that really startled me that can i have a wireless mic please i'm going to walk over here if i can in a minute i want to show people and then we'll show a map of the whole world now that we've seen this map but like a whole map of the planet laid out about where we were 1400 years ago thanks i guess nobody heard me about getting bring me a mic well the boom on the red roll bring me a mic so i appreciate that sir you are he's still on wikipedia though i'll go around i didn't you know what you i'll

just do this next guy they don't even hear me we don't need that anymore anyways i'll do it over here we'll do it next segment maybe next year who knows anyways i'm going off the air okay alex whatever your opinion on trump ordering what of solar morning i think we can all agree that the most cringe thing to come out of it was the avalanche of normie tia world war three memes i would argue the most cringey thing is what alex just did that he just stomped off he did he just stomped off the show yeah and i couldn't see from the camera angle but i think he threw a mic too yeah like i think he was just like fuck this he is such a fucking rage filled asshole

this is so unacceptable man like if i were working in that studio that would be the day i quit no one should be subjected to a boss acting that childishly and frighteningly in a workspace yeah it would be terrible if you were when alex between the months of november and march of never when alex gets back he tries to claim that liberals point was that alex is pretending that islam is expansionist but it's really christianity that's expanding which wasn't what liberal was saying at all i suspect that this is one part alex just trying to save face about that blow up what he just listened to and another part of him having no ability to synthesize information that people are giving to him man either way that's some scary shit

like that that that behavior is he's on the job yeah i don't know who this new like this boom operator is who doesn't have a name and alex doesn't seem to know who is his name is but he brings him up multiple times strangely enough boomer asias and that you should not have to deal with this that is unionized buddy you know i would love to unionize but philosophically i'm against unions and i i'm starting to see why people are for them yeah but boom operators 435 local get in you know i i i do i do feel so fucking broken down by the show any other show if the host walked off holy shit like this is the biggest yeah if mad out just walked off in a huff just all pissed off we'd be like holy shit this is big news alex ending a show like whatever he's

a fucking looted keep in mind he's barging offset ostensibly because no one gave him a handy walk around mic sure so there's tech issues and his staff is fucking up so he gets so furious but it's also in the middle of trying to explain how islam's taking over the world yeah so if mad out did that right you'd never stop talking about it she would be cancelled not cancelled like in the social media center sure sure show cancelled yeah yeah i it is funny that he exemplifies why white american men shouldn't be allowed to do something while at the same time telling people why the islamic nation shouldn't be allowed to do something i think he also exemplifies why like standards in media are important like and why it's good to have a boss yeah because someone should be

chastising him for this absolutely there should be consequences for this kind of behavior because it's not okay well i think his dad will take care of it i don't think so how are you are you the environment according to him he's gonna get his banking come on no i don't think so and what's interesting to me is like alex comes back like he doesn't leave the show he someone should have been like you're off air you're done you're done for today yeah red card yeah you know you're you're you have take the day off we'll play some rob shroyer come in special reports whatever you cannot be on the air yeah until you calm down you have shown yourself between these two gigantic islamophobic rants and this blow up where you just storm off the set yeah

like you are not in a place whatever whatever's going on yeah whatever it is maybe you're mad about this wikipedia iodide shit yeah who knows maybe you took too many of your supplements no one knows no one cares for your own sake you can't be on air no one does that because no one can yeah he's so alex gets back on air and one thing that i think is really fascinating is he takes some calls and no one is like are you okay like no one treats what just happened on the show as if it's something to be concerned about yeah i think they know what i know which is that oh this dude's fucking crazy it's that's the appeal yeah so alex before he gets back to calls starts trying to rationalize you know like hey man i'm just mad about islam expanding um i really gotta

emphasize that this is all just because he saw two muslim family families in a hamburger well and he gets back to that so everything comes full everything go good good good and a much of islam is basically a male thug grooming gang and i'm offended by it i'm offended by a lot of the times i go to a restaurant my daughters are like what is this there's women with full hoods on eating food under it and the men are looking at weird man and it's it's it's it's i don't like it i'll be point blank with you yeah i i believe western civilization superior i don't like putting hoods over women's heads and and burning them or drowning them in the swimming pool or stoning them to death you know if my wife and daughters didn't do what i said says western civilization feminism with

jazabel spirit and the women all and then trying to dominate men no women aren't happy to do that either and you know how you don't deal with that you act like a man and tell him you're not putting up with that crap but it doesn't mean you put hoods over their heads weird line to draw let's see the left loves that yeah i mean i had to watch this in austin restaurants literally this i mean it's give me a break okay it's not literally that it's people eating hamburgers you dumb asshole like he's he's responding as if he just saw a stoning at dan's hamburgers he didn't see he didn't see anything you saw people having hamburgers yeah yeah this is so important because he can pretend all he wants that he just has a problem with these uh these critiques that he has of islam

but he doesn't he sees every single person that he identifies as a muslim as indicative of the worst thing of islam ever it's all universal it is um i don't know i don't know what to say it's the work it's it's awful he's an awful awful person yeah and even then he his big like oh they dominate their women and they make them wear hoods his criticism is a sense of scale not not philosophy well of course you need to dominate women naturally and you need to make sure that you control their behaviors but you don't put a hood on them right that's my biggest issue with islam yeah yeah wow so i should tell you alex has steve pechenicon again and it's no it's very boring okay we're not going to listen to any of it good it's just it's just steve saying that it was a

surgical strike to take out sulamani yeah yeah and everything is going great yeah everything is fine sure um it's very bland and dry right but the thing that i think is notable is that at no point i mean they even talk about him being on a couple days ago and at no point they talk about how he denied the holocaust remember that didn't come up steve real quick i understand your feelings on iran uh quick quick question you want to talk about the the you know alex you denied the holocaust alex doesn't care no or doesn't even realize that that was some of the content that steve brought to the show i i'm flabbergasted i have no idea well i mean he did he did just storm off of his show with no consequences so that's true yeah so we have one last clip and

it's alex you know talking about how he's had some blow ups on the show and uh yeah he would describe it as rightly still did the show man alex describes it as having fun you know i felt like going crazy at the start of the last hour and if you watch that you said okay is that an actor or is that somebody really blowing up on air uh no that's a real something i feel like that's that was real i was in control of myself and i let myself do it so that's that's insane everything i say here i believe that's insane but i do let the dog off the leash occasionally and have a little bit of fun because it felt good to run around and get angry yesterday i'd like to act stupid and act like a hummingbird in front of my kids and flap my hands and jump around the house

and i did it on the owens show just to just to sometimes not take myself so serious you know we cover really serious subjects but callers call in thanking me oh you're great you're great no you're great i want freedom so do you yeah we're the majority let's come together let's do it and then let's not be these people on tv that take themselves so seriously that they don't have some fun sometimes what are you talking about i um i i you stormed off your fucking show because your staff didn't give you the mic that you wanted you don't take yourself so seriously un fucking real yeah that that is the behavior he thinks such that you can wave away such a horrible rationalization for his petulant outbursts and and like oh i just let myself off the change just having a little bit

of fun that's what you describe well then like no aggressively islamophobic rants that's how you describe just having some fun if that's how you have fun i mean you you know you know what that says about you yeah yeah i mean i i i the place that i worked the the owner of the company was also the boss and he was a giant piece of shit the same way but even then that's that's like at least you know when to be ashamed of yourself you know well yeah you can be a petulant child and you can be a fucking shitty person you own your own business so you get to avoid consequences for your actions but at least be ashamed of it alex is kind of expressing like the like a little bit of shame but he's trying to co-opt and adjust how he responds to it and he's trying to rational

yeah i mean that would that would help that would help so i i wanted to do this episode because i wanted to check in on this evolving situation and alex's response to it and you see that the response is really just aggressive islamophobia like now this has transitioned and the show is just alex freaking out and screaming about how bad islam is and i don't know entirely if that alone would have been worth an episode but alex having zack on the live stream yeah i think certainly uh yeah makes it uh and every more interesting every time he drops your hamburger place you want to really make sure everybody knows about it well i mean that yeah that definitely that definitely is like i say go support dan's hamburgers these these are the

things too that like really are important to understand like when alex screams about islam and like grooming gangs in the uk and stuff like that you could deconstruct that and you could talk about like why he's wrong about these things and that's important but i think more important is understanding that him seeing muslims in public in places that are indicative of integration like you said being at the mall being at a pool supply shop enjoying a nice hamburger meal those are the sorts of things that drive him crazy and lead to this sort of an outburst it's the proof of integration it's the proof of coexistence that infuriate him because maybe those are indications that we can get along that everybody can just be fine with each other and he

can't handle that because he wants a holy war yeah yep so the book of revelations is never gonna happen dan if we all just like each other all the time that's how are we gonna get the how we're gonna get the post-trib rapture if everybody's just fine yep it's tough everybody's eating hamburgers holding hands left and right dan uh-uh makes me want to store i'm so angry at that boom mike yeah so uh i guess i would sum this up by saying alex go fuck your cell let's go fuck yourself you giant racist now uh let's give some more shout outs here before absolutely these are people i want to see in dance hamburgers so first andrew thank you so much you're now policy wonk i'm a policy wonk like andrew next eddie shoo man foo thank you so much you're now policy wonk i'm a

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