Knowledge Fight - #400: One Out Of Five Seems High

Episode Date: February 19, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan take a much needed break from Alex Jones to try to recapture some of the magic of talking about space weirdos a little. In this installment, the gents learn that a long-dead celebrity may still be alive and discover a new way to power your home.

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight I love you Hey everybody welcome back knowledge fight I'm Dan we're a couple dudes like to sit around to acknowledge you beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones indeed we are Dan Jordan Dan Jordan how do you feel about steroids and baseball do you think they should be in the Hall of Fame I don't know I don't I don't really have a strong position on that I think like from on a human level I don't like people using steroids in competition but I also have no like I don't you don't have a rooting interest in that not really I think it's up to the people

who are in charge of the the hall okay or or the MLB or whatever if they want to allow people to juice sure then then go for I mean I think it's bad I think you'd end up with people like yeah you know you'd end up with a lot of people really severely harmed by that I think that's not a good thing to do but if it's you know are you gonna let him in the hall or not that's up to you guys fair how about the astro sign stealing scandal are you paying attention we talked about this already and yeah and my response was I don't know anything about that oh that's right well it's continuing on is my is that right it's never ending oh yeah yeah more and more people are calling for the series to be taken away jeez Rob Manfred the commissioner is calling the trophy

which has his name on it a little piece of metal it's it's bad yeah that that does that does sound pretty pretty shitty I don't know man well I don't have I don't really have any strong feelings about that I'm torn because like my sort of chaotic side is like let him yeah there is a part of me that's like fuck sportsmanship if you're crafty enough to get away with cheating go for it but then the other part of me knows that that's no way for like it's that's a bad precedent like the cyclists with motors on their bikes for the tour to France that would probably yeah that that does have a very serious effect on the the purity of the turf as they say so yeah I don't know I think if it were up to me if I were in charge yes that's a good question I would not be I would not allow

it you wouldn't allow it but I will never be in that position where I'll have any impact on that fair so I don't really have a strong feeling cut to the world being stranger in 30 years and you're the commissioner of MLB that makes sense yeah that would be insane yeah why not I could see it happening give me a plausible series of events that would lead to you I apply okay on linkedin gotcha gotcha absolutely what monster.com zip recruiter I think oh that's the new one I think they're looking for zip recruiter yeah I know it probably won't happen I don't know much about this stuff but Jordan I do know a lot about Alex Jones oh and I know a lot about the former and nothing about the latter right so today Jordan what I thought we would do

here on this uh this here Wednesday episode is uh I think that our last episode was a little too much a little too uh murder heavy little murdery little murdery a lot of murder a lot of Alex calling for uh that Cambridge professor to kill herself yeah yeah yeah it was he needs to go on time out we've kind of turned into a preemptive true crime podcast it does feel that way we're watching true crime to happen yeah and uh you know the present day has so much stuff going on in it that you feel like it's really felt like you need to keep up with what Alex is doing and I still do believe that but I need to put him in time out yes please so we needed to take we need to take an excursion off into something completely different good and uh you know it could have been I you

know could have been a Bill Cooper episode but I almost feel like that's too close I'm waiting for you to be like and John Wayne Gacy was on Bill Cooper show so let's talk about that no no no that seems too close yeah so I wanted to even go far afield of that and so I've got some some fun I think good I had to go over but like before we get down to that Jordan we gotta take a moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show so first Abby thank you so much you're now policy walked I'm a policy walking thank you Abby thank you Abby next john thank you so much you're now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thank you John thank you John next Heather thank you so much you are now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thanks Heather thank you

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why you pimp so good my neck is freakishly large I declare info war on you thank you so much John P and thank you so much Jeffrey yes thank you very much to the both of you and also thank you to Hal I forgot to say thank you oh yeah very rude yeah it was very rude if you're out there listening you're thinking hey I enjoy the show I'd like to support these gents too you can do that by going to our website knowledge fight calm there's a button there that says sports show you can click it and thank you it would be lovely so Jordan back in 2017 yes when we were young well you know that's when we I mean we started the podcast in January yes 2017 yeah yeah and then a little ways down the road we started doing project Camelot episodes because I wanted to tell you about the

wonderful world of wacky space it was a wonderful wonderful world for a short period of time along the way it has become less fun as it has it has become less fun as we learn more things about the sorts of people that hang around that get interviewed by Kerry Cassidy and some of the opinions that Kerry may herself hold and scratch a scammer and it turns out they hate juice it's really weird and may maybe not hate but have weird feelings about and maybe hate I don't know so it became less fun and it's just this it's become a thing where I want to do more space weirdo episodes and project Camelot but also it really it only makes sense really when Mark Richards comes around yeah who is a guy who's a murderer yep and Kerry Cassidy believes he is a

space captain yes who has a living spaceship Minerva that flies around with and raptors will kill you for chocolate occasionally as a lieutenant occasionally as a lieutenant might be a cellmate yes yes but he's never mentioned again brought up once and then disappeared so I was thinking about it and like when we started this it was in 2017 also it was when we first had our project Camelot thing yes and it was not a Mark Richards episode that was our second yes episode the first one was about Randy Kramer who was a super soldier right allegedly who has access to holographic med beds yes that will regenerate you and and what have you and I started to think about it as like why did we do that it couldn't have just been that I thought something

was weird about space and I wanted to tell you about it even though you know there is some element yeah yeah wasn't what precipitated that that wasn't what prompted it what was it what was Randy Kramer in specific there for well here here's what I want to tell you okay I remembered that the reason that we did that episode in the first place was that Alex Jones had an interview with a guy named Robert David Steel who had come on his show and said that kids are being kidnapped and taken to Mars basis yes that's true and he caused a severe backlash for Alex with everyone being like you think there's Mars basis right right I never said that so here is that clip from Alex's show back in 2017 where Robert David Steel came on and was talking about how kids are

being kidnapped and taken to space let me see what Robert David Steel has to say go ahead no I I agree with that and let me just point out let me just point out that pedophilia does not stop with sodomizing children it goes straight into terrorizing them to adrenalize their blood and then murdering them it also includes murdering them so that they can have their bone marrow harvested as well as body parts pedophilia is the original growth hormone yes yes it's an anti-aging thing and and this may strike your listeners as way out but we actually believe that there is a colony on Mars that is populated by children who were kidnapped and sent into space on a 20-year ride so that once they get to Mars they have no alternative

but to be slaves on the Mars colony oh it's all kind of right look I know 90% of the of the the NASA missions are secret and I've been told by high-level NASA engineers that you have no idea there's so much stuff going on but then it goes off into all that I mean yeah that's the kind of thing the media jumps on but I know this we see a bunch of a mechanical wreckage on Mars and people say oh look it looks like you know mechanics they go oh you're conspiracy theorists clearly they don't want us looking into what's happening every time probes go over they turn them off Alex you're one of the most original guys on the air and you asked what should you do I think you should be the truth channel in America so there was a real lack of any kind of like

you know pushing back or anything Alex is like hey man look I don't you know often these theories go into this sort of thing but hey man everything secret and they're doing crazy shit 90% of NASA's missions are secret right right so what Alex's response was to Robert David Steele saying that the kids are being kidnapped and taken to Mars bases was like maybe yeah why not it wasn't it wasn't like show your work yeah you know so Alex deserved all of the criticism that he got for that and that is what precipitated us to go down the road of looking at project Camelot to begin with yes now recently Kerry got interviewed by Robert David Steele oh no within the last week or two I believe oh shit yeah it was pretty recent and so I decided why not if we have this

lack of joy in going through these project Camelot episodes why not see if we can recapture some of the magic by going back to the beginning let's flip it around right absolutely to move forward you must go back yeah yeah or something start at the beginning yeah so anyway Robert David Steele has his own YouTube channel that he's putting up videos on and spoiler alert the interview that he did after this one the most recent interview when I just checked was with Jim Fetzer okay hey Holocaust denier wrote the book no one died at Sandy Hook right he just lost the lawsuit over right yeah so he has some pretty good ability to pick out the guests we can't all be heroes dad so I wanted to go over this and there's gonna you know there's some stuff

that might be a little bit meh but there's a couple things in here that I found to be like this is what I'm looking for this is the project Camelot stuff that I've been missing so we'll get to that as we go along but Robert David Steele opens this up by just giving Carrie a glowing intro Carrie Cassidy several years ago I started reading in the extraterrestrial paranormal nonfiction domain excuse me and I also started researching online creative website project Camelot immediately popped up as one of the top websites in the world and I remember getting in touch with you and I remember us having conversations over time I've been just tremendously impressed by by what you have accomplished and what you're trying to communicate to people so please tell us

a little bit about just how you got started very very briefly and then talk about some of your classics that are available on your website today some of the classics people have introduced Mandela with less glowing reviews I bet Robert David Steele would yeah this guy's a communist that's fair that's fair god classics like mark richards is uh 13 or so 13 no probably 11 oh man but he's been interviewed a lot right 80 page being a racist alien that's classic yeah yeah that one's in the top five guy with telescope classics so anyway Carrie gets into talking about some of the big hits from the past and you know I have some thoughts about a couple of them we were very lucky and in other words we not only were approached by top witnesses and and people of that nature but

we also went seeking the very top people and for some reason we were able to get through to them quickly and easily and in the first year we must have talked to some of the best people that ever have come out on this topic or well people who said that they were the best sources on this topic it's it's kind of indistinguishable at a certain point and you you got at some point you got to give people your trust and you got to open yourself up to trusting people I agree with you in theory but this isn't going to be the time okay so we get into some specifics and one of them is a name that we haven't talked about but actually it's someone with a fairly interesting bit of backstory we've got a very long segment segmented interview with myself my former partner

Bill Ryan and David Wilcock all interviewing one person Dr. Pete Peterson who has since passed away as of about a year ago but he was a sort of a doctor strange love in the secret space program and very instrumental behind the scenes also involved in the creation of what you call super soldiers today so those are a few Captain Mark Richards came much later in our Camelot history but he's also one of the top witnesses sure he is so he was a doctor strange so Dr. Pete Peterson was also a Nazi please define your terms you can't just call someone a doctor strange love he's a doctor strange love he's a Nazi right I don't know oh man so Pete Peterson is a bit of an old school name in the paranormal conspiracy type worlds he not super old school but I mean

we're in 2020 now so it's a ways back right you know I think he is like the project Camelot interview was like 2009 or something so you know it's a decade old yeah I'm gonna call that old school old enough maybe not 1950s 1970s alien guy but anyway he's made a whole ton of claims over the course of his career a bit of it having to do with his alleged former employment when he was reverse engineering alien technology sure interestingly I was looking into him a little bit and I was able to find a message board thread from September 2017 on Project Avalon which is the website that carries former partner Bill Ryan he's been running since he made a split with Camelot okay so they just they now they're just two different projects yes okay parted ways got you

he might have been running project Avalon prior to that too but it's like his right right got you and I'll be honest I don't know a fucking ton about Bill Ryan I've tried to watch some of the interviews that he does I find them incredibly boring yeah like most of this stuff is quite honestly but there are a few things that make me think like all right this guy is not great but at least he's not the worst okay because he doesn't believe the Mark Richard stuff good and that's a low bar I found this thread and it shows a little bit of character okay at least so here's the first line that sticks out to me in this thread in his post quote there's strong reason to believe that Peterson was lying knowingly or confabulating

when he told David Wilcock about the presence of armed police how his belongings including his truck were being seized and much of it was being bulldozed into a pit so as it turns out Jordan this guy's house Pete Peterson's house yeah was being foreclosed on right and that story ended up getting told as a secret government attack on him for spilling truths or something okay in reality it appears that he was basically a hoarder and when his house ended up getting taken care of they ended up finding three dead cats inside and just like a complete chaos toxic environment so I should give you some idea of what was going on right right this is not the situation where there's a secret government bulldozing order no with armed guards trying to

keep Pete Peterson away from his house that's not good he wasn't even living in that house at the time right it's all very complicated and wild of course so that main post that I was reading to you from on this message board it was written by Bill Ryan it's not just some user on the on the board saying it it's Kerry's former partner he goes on to say quote close examination of Peterson's testimony causes me personally to suspect there is a high probability that some of the information he presented in the 2009 project Camelot interview was inaccurate exaggerated or invented I I do not any more believe he was a reliable witness then and certainly not now put simply this post is basically Bill Ryan saying that their interview with this guy was bullshit he says quote we did

not see documentation his DD 214 any devices which he had or had made never saw his laboratory and never even visited his house at the time we did and this is in capital the word is in capital letters a great job no due diligence I was I saw that going a different way no there's even reason to question his educational credentials so apparently some folks who looked into the college that Peterson claimed to have a degree from found that it's a degree mill that likely wasn't even in existence at the time and he was supposed to have been in school so he didn't even get his fake degree it's unclear I don't know I'm take I'm taking a little bit of this right patchwork investigation that these people on the message board have done sure because I don't really care

all that much no I don't know it speaks volumes that Bill Ryan made a follow-up post after a bunch people had shown even more reason to doubt Pete Peterson story and Bill said quote I'm very close to making a public statement of apology the project Camelot did not do any due diligence at the time and that at least some of what Peterson shared with us may have been fictional as each day passes it looks more and more to be the case uh man I don't like how you need each day passing I feel like you didn't need the days you could have just yeah maybe an hour maybe and maybe an hour is what it takes suffice it to say that this was a situation where it appears that Peterson was not a mentally well person who was elevated and used to validate space weirdo theories based on things he was just

making up which seems like a pattern with these people seems like there's a lot of these folks that we end up running into so you're saying they took advantage of a guy who had mental issues in order to support their own narratives and continue their own grips it seems like that is a very high possibility that's so out of character for them as it turns out Peterson's main booster was David Wilcock who is a top tier space weirdo con man who believes himself to be the reincarnation of Edgar Casey and it's just he's too prolific of a dude to get into as a side note on this episode one day we'll eventually actually do an episode about David Wilcock but like he's so prolifically like he's done so much there's so many speeches to like try and figure out all right which one

should we cover yeah he's just too he's like the he's ubiquitous and he's like a buckshot it's all over the place there's so much to it that I would have such a hard time sitting down and like figuring out all right here's what's important I imagine it will still only take me about an hour to disbelieve anything no maybe like a minute okay so it very much seems to me from what I've been able to suss out it seems like David Wilcock was using Peterson and an article that I found on a website called bended reality really reinforced this feeling this article is from December 21st 2019 which is a little bit after Peterson had died apparently after Pete passed away David Wilcock did an interview where he was claiming that Pete had given a deathbed confession where he was getting

ready to come forward about quote his experiences visiting 60 to 65 different off-planet locations among with other sensational tales so close to giving that deathbed confession so close so close so the thing I want to point out here is like some of these space weirdos like some of it's fun and dumb but some of these people are really fucking shady yeah they'll profit off you as long as you're useful to the grift and their industry but then when you die they'll try to profit off you oh yeah after yeah yeah what what are you gonna stop trying to get a profit off the golden goose it just really bums you out yeah it's a real bummer if the golden goose dies you just sell tickets to see the dead goose man yeah doesn't matter so Carrie has this interview that they

did with Pete Peterson as like this was a grand thing that we did and then or other another one is uh mark richards like your list is not great yeah so robert david steel gets down to talking about like what the topics he wants to cover are there are four quick things i want to ask you about the the whole human trafficking uh thing the bases on mars and elsewhere the kinds of spaceships that we seem to have had for the last 20 years i think the president's secret space force is actually a way of of justifying legitimizing a force that has always existed with course congressional approval absolutely which is why i think donald rumsfeld did not lose 2.1 trillion dollars it was spent on the secret space force and underground bases and then i want to

end up by asking you about super soldiers so let's take these one at a time very brief the Carrie Cassidy understanding i was i want to give rubber david steel a tiny bit of kudos and that is again in terms of the interview styles that i end up seeing he's all business yeah he does at least like he's you'll see i don't know if you'll be able to tell just because these are clips as both like listening to the whole interview but he does try and stay on focus yeah which is something i i find novel he's a yeah i can't remember the last is he gonna stick to these four topics yeah okay see now this is wild because alex usually will give you a list of topics and then never touch on it almost feels like this dude has notes yeah yeah okay here are the bullet points he's got

bullet points yeah yeah yeah um so i it's faint praise though because i also think he's uh a little bit you know i mean it would be you know it's faint praise to say that uh donald trump could write a hamburger essay for instance sure he couldn't but it would be faint praise if he could the the thing that i find is like okay so these four topics are going to be like i there those are all like right where carry can hit a ding or out of park yeah yeah yeah but like the when you have like okay i think that trump is making this space force in order to legitimize the secret space program i love it that's a good angle right i mean that is one possibility another possibility is he wants space wars yes that is also possible agree the behavior is indistinguishable

someone doing something completely loony and someone legitimizing the secret space program yeah very similar yeah in terms of external appearances yeah that's tough that's just even yeah i it's hard to parse whenever uh all things are possible i guess certainly yeah chaotic evil can manifest in many different ways and that's why you have to take things with external context in issues like that i can't tell you why trump is doing that i have no idea but if they're gonna make that argument then i will rely on other things that are said okay in order to help me deduce whether or not i should trust what they're saying you should be listening to what is unsaid dan it's obviously it's obviously it's the notes you don't play buddy so they're talking

about uh aliens abducting people right from earth right yes i'm by the way so much happier to be talking about absolutely so much happier you need a break from us so they're talking about the you know and i'm i'm not here to be mr squaresville and say that no one gets abducted by aliens sure that's not my business that would be lame that would be lame right yeah yeah yeah i do think the scale that they're talking about here pay attention to like you think it might be noticeable i think what karry is saying is impossible what's your understanding of the degree to which human beings are traded as a food source and as a as a chemical high source the degree uh is is is very high um you know i are you talking about a percentage of humans that are are taken off planet etc

i don't know um we're missing eight million people a year what uh is it in that range it's it's i would say it's around 20 percent it could be higher than that one in five one in five people have been abducted or are abducted or are being abducted as we speak they are specifically talking about a food source yes i don't think they're coming back i i would doubt it yeah that's fair that's fair or so aliens can get high off their blood i don't think they're going to be like hey you just you know you do five years as a hallucinogenic blood source and we'll bring you back everything's fine everybody goes about the business it's not like a year abroad or whatever you just come back from with stories about your your time in london i feel like i've been a one

to one class or the professor's like look to your left look to your right in front of you and back one of the five of you will be abducted before the end of this class one of you will be food that's i i would it does seem high yeah because you know robert david steels saying like there's eight million people that go missing like eight billion or eight million is way lower than 20 percent of the world yeah and what what's that one point five billion i'm not entirely sure because it would if it was 20 percent those people are probably not on the census or like they're not included in the population right so you'd have to assume so now we don't even know how many people there are right there should be 20 percent more yeah yeah yeah this to me seems tough and this

indicates either like it just a inability to like estimate 20 percent of the entire population or she actually believes like there's a billion people that are being taken yeah does does that mean that our memories are being wiped so we don't remember or any of these people because i assume in this aspect there's no way that it would not affect each and every person on the planet in some way well i mean assuming you know five people i i mean even assuming you know one person who knows another person who knows another person like there's no way not to be affected by the six degrees i don't have kevin bacon's abduction i don't believe stories of friends of friends okay i don't believe any of it fair enough that's because they're been abducted probably yeah

so i obviously think this number is a little high okay and i also think these people might be a little high ten percent twelve percent some of those that were out there okay that's reasonable yeah yeah absolutely twenty ridiculous ridiculous uh kary justifies this number by uh pointing to like how this could happen okay we're talking about also during wartime this is a perfect war is a perfect cover in which uh according to mark richards the reptilians can come in through the portals in the middle east and abduct large numbers of humans to be used as slaves and and for these other purposes right that's fascinating it's pretty fascinating yeah i guess so i guess that's one way to like not have to emotionally wrestle with the fact that humans do wars against

each other yeah yeah because that's pretty hard right you know that's that's tough to deal with it it really is difficult to explain when you get down to it right sure and the feelings of culpability that you would naturally maybe have to deal with about like the things that your country's foreign policy is involved in and uh that that's hard so instead aliens are coming through stargates and snatching up a billion people i still i don't know which one's worse i'm gonna be honest with you i think i'm i think on the whole we might be better off with the uh with the wars i guess probably be fewer casualties but assuming that the alien one isn't real fair it is better to believe that one that's a good point it feels better that does feel a lot better right because it's not real

we're all united against a unified enemy exactly just somebody or we should be yeah we should be everyone else but a lot of people have the scales over yeah they got the scales are very nice so you got to carry saying war is probably how it's done most likely all these wars are just the alien snatching people right right robert david steel has another possibility i've been very interested in the illegal alien issue ever since 2002 when i predicted that there would be a mass migration into europe and i realize as you're speaking that there's no way of tallying up the number of refugees that leave the middle east and the number that arrive in europe there's a delta in there ah so you see people leave a country try and migrate somewhere we don't know how many people

left how many people arrive no i'm aliens okay aliens okay snatch i don't i don't accept his premise no i don't maybe we can't get an exact tally but people who are good at estimating things i know and i might assume that it's fewer than 1.5 billion who are migrating but it's also probably more comfortable to assume it's alien snatching people up then like people die trying to flee countries yeah yeah it's probably much easier to like play around with alien ideas than to recognize like uh some people end up completely displaced they end up in a place that they didn't intend to go right right some crazy circumstance someone kidnaps them and human traffics them along the way sure those things do happen and they're terrifying there's only one type of aliens

only one type of refugee and that's a space refugee dan everybody else is kidnapped or abducted or is an alien i guess i guess so this this i guess do you like steel i guess is just sort of like that's good enough for this topic let's move on let's move on to mars basis put a check mark there yeah so here we get into the bases okay and remember robert davis seal three years ago was on alex's show saying that he believes that mars is there's bases and uh they're taking kids there enslaved children mm-hmm where do you think based on all the witnesses you've talked to uh that we have bases uh actual bases get the fuck out small cities and fully functional um uh you know whatever all right well as far as i'm concerned we have uh we have bases on the moon and mars uh

according to of course multiple witnesses i mean this is a very very common knowledge at this point everyone knows two or three at least everyone knows multiple witnesses common knowledge common knowledge we've got moon and mars basis of course also the moons of saturn and jupiter we've been terraforming those which so i'm not sure how far along we are but but apparently that's quite a substantial colony or colonies and then also off planet uh not only off planet but out of the solar system so going interstellar in essence uh according to mark for example the raptors have taken around 200 000 humans that are on a planet that is much farther away than from our solar system there are many many earth-like planets even conventional scientists will admit

and uh and those earth-like planets out in the multiple solar systems out there are where humans would be taken uh and abducted to etc i find that fascinating he's he finds a lot of things fascinating i'm sensing that he has a very standard response yeah yeah i would say that if i'm if i'm we're calling things correctly mark richards his friends with the raptors and they're supposed to be the good guys but now they've kidnapped 200 000 people that taken them to some sort of a they all worked for her she's dead they were all carrying chocolate at the same time they what's the population of her she pennsylvania oh that's a good question it's 200 000 less than it should be yeah solve the case there we go i think that that makes them bad guys yeah i we've

i'm not into an alien uh you are you are coming over to my side i don't know i don't know if i was ever opposed to it i just try and stay neutral you can't stay neutral i take in the raptor reptilian battle i take information as it comes to me and kary is a raptor sympathizer and even she is saying that they've taken 200 000 people to some weirdo alternate earth planet and to me i find that troubling it does seem like even in the fake even in the fake reality these guys are always on the side of the bad guy does seem that way so that's enough for bases because we've established its common knowledge there's bases all over the place absolutely and so now we get into the super soldier question sure now what about super soldiers is that i've i've read about

aging i've read about age reversion um so tell me about your sense of the technologies that have been used to create super soldiers not only in the outer space context but here on earth um okay well we're talking about transhumanism in that case uh done this is something that they are doing and have been doing since since my understanding is the duncan ophinian was the model super soldier in which he was enhanced also had additional psychic abilities and powers of course and making use of what we call orgon it's also called kundalini in the east ah yes uh duncan ophinian someone that kary and project came a lot interviewed a while back and uh you can find a bunch of uh people who have dug into him and been like no bullshit no come on he's got

psychic ability but he's the according to kary he's the first super soldier amazing she was able to talk to the first one yeah amazing i still think it's kurt russell but okay um so you got this guy he's been augmented it's transhumanism none of this is very specific it's all it's all very uh just like saying words yeah well he has psychic he has other psychic abilities as well i'm not sure what they are you know it's really it seems like any and all psychic abilities would be something i would list to you know it's really fucked up in his project camelot interview i was listening to it and he's like 10 years from now there will be a podcast that makes fun of me he was a psychic that's what i'm saying he uh that is not true that bit did not go well you don't need to be a psychic

to have predicted that that bit would not land that's that's like your opening bits on our guest's appearances on the show so uh you know we got this kary talked to the first super soldier and the program has been going on ever since that dude uh but hey man look it's not just the us should make super soldiers of course the nazis wanted it too so the nazis were also the first people at least in this um sort of century i guess uh in the last hundred years that were went down the road of creating a super soldier so we were not the first it came from the nazis and they were a universal soldier in fact is a movie that there we go i forget which universal soldier it progressively those there's a sort of series of universal soldier movies some dolphin grin in there that

really goes back and depicts the nazis and the progression of the development of the super soldier you know they like to hide in plain sight so if any this helps also when there are leaks because what they can basically say is they can say oh it was just a movie or the person just saw it they have a big imagination in a movie so i have no idea which uh universal soldier movie kary's talking about here but i assume it would have to be one of the direct to video sequels yeah yeah which you kind of have to forgive me i didn't watch those yeah no me neither uh this seems like a weird plan to me i i kind of understand if your predictive programming stuff is in popular media like the original universal soldier movie but it doesn't really make sense for that plan

to extend to the like horribly unsuccessful stuff that no one's seen admittedly i don't believe in this kind of shit at all right but i also insist that if you're going to play that game you have to at least have some kind of a standard not everything could be predictive programming right right like an unpublished script can't be predictive programming a failed pilot cannot be predictive programming you have to have a line what about time cop i feel like that's in between universal soldier and universal shoulder is direct to time cop came in out in theaters fair fair that is i will give you a pass i don't believe it i don't agree with you that you're playing a fair game you heard it here you're not paying you're not playing fair if you're using uh direct to

dbc equals yeah it's not good i agree i agree so i'm glad we're in agreement there yes so robert david steels like hey you know like super soldiers i've heard of steroids is that like steroids are they giving them steroids that's a reasonable question super soldiers die a young age do they kind of like you know and no we've had a problem with steroids in the nfl and in the military and if you take enough steroids your spine ends up collapsing does the super super technology basically eat the beast or do they survive it you call people well my understanding is we're talking about technology that is enhancing creating cyborgs and this is this is to actually better the human body so that it's it can live longer be more durable and and obviously fight

and and do all the things they want it to do so bigger faster bigger faster better that sort of principle you know jordan there was a documentary that came out a while back about steroids called bigger stronger faster just shockingly close to the words care used to describe these definitely not steroid super soldier right right right but maybe maybe maybe that documentary was predictive programming so i would think that she's actually talking about steroids when she uses almost the name of that documentary yeah that could be that could be where do you stand on cyborgs getting into the hall dad i look it's up to the hall i don't have a strong position on it i'm not involved i'm going to go with interstellar nine nine nine nine is predictive programming because that had

def punks great song harder better faster stronger in it it must be yes that must be it so when we first did our first project camelot episode it was about randy kramer super soldier yes and of course now they're having this conversation he comes up and would you know i i don't remember this but it does seem like he probably did talk about it he's had magic limbs replaced okay sorry i don't know if that's ever been documented or proven but he's uh you know he's had magical limb regrowth or something i'm not sure all right um this gets to carry down another path where we've already had universal soldier predictive program right documentary we get another instance of that it's just all fucking movies and tv shows there are a number of super soldiers out

there randy kramer talks about even having that the technology exists to replace limbs or or parts of the body that get uh just you know destroyed in in a battle uh he says that it's happened to him that he's had certain parts replaced and and and so on so a sense form of cloning so you can basically grow an arm back yes but there's also uh i don't know if you've seen the television series fringe in which then this was started back in the time of the nazis it has to do with parallel great show and going over to parallel earth where you have a double all of us have doubles in parallel earth this is in essence you might say in the yin and yang of the being we call earth that would be the dark side of earth and in essence you have to go to another dimension

to cross into that dimension to access those individuals but they like in the movie fringe or the tv show uh they're being brought across to uh to to like the person in this dimension has been close to death or dying and they will be replaced by one that crosses over in fact there's also a television series called counterpart which depicts the same thing in a after since fringe i'm not sure if you're going to be able to really strengthen your argument that life is like fringe by pointing to another tv yeah yeah yeah no it's a lot like the first tv show because you saw the second tv show that doesn't help me really double predictive program although i will say that fringe is at least like more popular than the universal soldier sequel so at least you're playing the

right game here and i'm not going to be too mad about it i liked fringe it was great i liked counterpart really interesting i i've never heard of counterpart it's great showtime fringe at least i think it was a little bit maybe too ambitious from what i recall but it was interesting there was a lot of really interesting stuff absolutely cast is great it is it is never well acted joshua jackson he was showing people he's still got it he i don't know if he did that but he did show people he's still there i am not just dawson's creek and scullin bones or the faculty which one was it i can't remember anyway was was it the faculty i went devin saw what they just do not have the creativity necessary to write their own shit well that's

why i mean such kary cassidy is a bad she's a failed screenwriter she talks about that quite a bit yeah we're trying to get work in hollywood yeah she just can't do it because she's not creative enough to lie her own lies i i i'm not sure if that's all that the phenomenon is but it is fascinating to me how just this like what i can't get around is like the picking and choosing yeah like okay yes you've taken fringe to be reality right what about that one Dawson's creek what about that one show where there wasn't electricity uh do you know that one what about that one is that real what is that real yeah the 100 let's just go with that one lost the don't lost real can i pretend lost is real i think you can yeah i mean like okay there's an island

that has regenerative properties and no one can find it on a map because it's constantly moving in time travel can i do that i assume so why doesn't kary i don't know i want to pretend that ali mcbill is real but i just can't live that life yet well but that's that's the thing the picking and choosing why why is it fringe yeah why like it's it's it's i don't know because it's not and it's not even like it's quality based because i like because i thought fringe was good but we're we just came from the universal soldier direct to video shit that's true you know it's quality seems like it should matter like i want to use good television here's my point yeah that i was trying to get to i was having tough time putting my finger on it yeah if i were to make arguments

probably to kary that lost is real sure she would not go along with it well maybe she would but that's a good question if you were rather not know the answer to that if you were making them to kary i think she would go along with them if you were making them against kary i think she would say that lost is bullshit well right right it's like i just i don't i don't understand i don't i don't get it now this next clip is probably the reason that i decided to do this episode yeah yeah the crux this this is where like it gets real so we're talking about like that don't use that phrase it's real well i'm in i'm into this okay so you got this fringe and other show counterpart you got this other reality where there's another version of you that you can get body parts from

or whatever absolutely if you can get through a portal or something i'm not entirely sure they don't get specific but there's other ways that these super soldiers can have like super bodies or something right put your mic down for this okay you're never going to believe okay that we get told about here and then i have a whistleblower that talked about people like mark twain uh and and others that have been reverse aged so they have this reverse aging and in fact william tomkins we talked about him earlier he was doing what he was doing in exchange for hope hopefully getting for himself and his family reverse aging pills that he that then would allow him to stay alive much longer uh and go to a younger age generally from what i understand

they reverse age someone to around to their 20s um it's younger for women they're like 23 or something i was told if i recall correctly and then men it's a little bit older 28 or so so look i totally understand in this fictional reality why you'd want to reverse age some important scientist or someone who's doing secret work behind the scenes that you know you want it to continue but why the fuck would you reverse age mark twain because he's brilliant dan have you not read letters from earth don't come on man don't get me wrong i appreciate the americana classics of old sam clements great one of our great authors i don't see what the point would be of making him immortal i don't get it okay so mark twain was important to our country's history because he was a great

writer yeah he had a sharp wit very fun he was an engaging public speaker it was wonderful which are three things he would not be able to continue doing if you were to have a second lifetime i don't understand i guess he could start writing under an assumed name but people would be like hey man you look a lot like mark twain you sound exactly like him and honestly your writing style is identical aha i am mark twain's grandson are you mark twain you taking reverse aging pills no i am not i am samuel clements oh shit i have edited it fuck also mark twain died in 1910 so even if he took reverse aging pills and went back to the age of 28 he would be 138 years old right now he would be dead again naturally you have to ask yourself if maybe he took more reverse aging pills at some

point and just kept cycling but if so what the fuck did he do in his second lifetime i see literally no tangible effects in the world that could rightly be attributed to mark twain in the years since his death so it seems like if he did live again he probably was just pretty low-key about it maybe just wandering around Missouri yeah sure i don't mean you look he lived a full a rich full life he's earned a retirement of another life of a whole rich full retirement that's complicated it seems it seems like maybe not the best use of this this miracle technology for a shadowy group to be doing yeah that's probably no good that's probably no good i have a suspicion that this whistleblower of carries just knew that one of mark twain's pithy quotes is quote life would be infinitely

happier if we could only be born at the age of 80 and gradually approach 18 which i guess was then transformed into him being some kind of reverse aging operation right right if you like if he wasn't like doing a reverse aging thing why would he say something yeah i do why would he say something like that jordan he said it himself he admitted it's in the white papers i do like weird random quotes being taken out of context to be like see obviously this guy knows the secret duck it's like universal soldier of course it's predictive programming externalizing the method why would he say that if he didn't already have some sort of benjamin button techno oh shit i reference another movie oh no no why would he say that if he wasn't like merlin oh shit that's right it's

another fake thing god damn it so mark twain maybe still walks among us possible has been reverse aged with pills what is he thomas pinchone now maybe yeah um so that makes no sense to me but kerry has other examples there are different ways of dealing with a super soldier and also keeping a human being alive and bringing them back so there are x nazis well not x there are nazis like vernevon brawn for example who have been reverse aged and in essence are young men now don't tell me it's carrove i'm sorry i'm making a joke it's a terrible joke see that makes sense yeah vernevon brawn is who you would say in this not mark twain absolutely yeah vernevon brawn is exactly who you would reverse age he's like a genius rocket scientist guy he's not really like

spooky and evil i mean he's literally a dr strange love if you will if you will he's who you would use as your reverse why is he the second example after mark twain well you got to try it on somebody first and if you're going down the list of who's the first to get de aging technology that may go wrong you go with the man mark twain dad sure absolutely absurd yeah so they get to talking about interstellar travel and apparently it's mostly wormholes right well that's the only way to get past the whole tricky lightspeed thing sure or the van allen radiation belt yeah whatever yeah you got you got issues apparently there are spacecrafts but they're used to transport other spacecrafts through wormhole something i'm entirely sure right it's very convoluted but

there are a bunch of dimensions in the world right right and then there's portals that you can go through or something okay kary is talking about that here a little bit and she reveals a secret power that she has okay i love a secret power that i find to be unimpressive what what we're talking about is a sort of an a path to ascension a path to return to source as they call it and there are there are hierarchies that one must go through and levels of frequency that you you raise your frequency and you're able to go to two other dimensions and if you've ever gone to sedona and you you go to the portals if you want to know what a portal is like go to sedona although they have them all over the world and in fact rivers and lakes are our natural portals

so the energy you can feel it i i happen to be an earth sensitive i can feel these things in my hands of course i could walk around and tell you where on your property there there might be a portal for example okay if your superpower is being able to tell you where a portal might be yep that is not a definitive power nope she's a maybe there's one here uh there's not well i just told you there might be one i didn't say there was that is a soft power she is a maybe divining rod which yeah that is a that is a reliable tool also i've been to sedona i haven't i haven't so i don't know she i she could be right i've been to lakes i think she just revealed that at one point she was probably a scientologist i don't know maybe

that whole source thing that's straight out of el ran you don't think no not necessarily it's all over the place okay in the paranormal community no okay no it's it that's very very ubiquitous i got i don't think it necessarily comes from him okay from hubbard i wouldn't be surprised if she was still look i'm not going to disagree with you necessarily yeah but i i don't think that you could use that as proof of it or anything fair point i don't know i mean i think on some level she's just expressing exactly what i feel but i don't think is portal related and that is that like nature is great yeah yeah yeah it's really good yeah you get a different feeling when you're out and about and you don't you know you're not around concrete right you know like being at a

river it does have some sort of uh you know because you can you know the sunset if you're out by a river absolutely like you all the bugs that start making noises it's very atmospheric the natural air sure oh absolutely yeah there's there's a lot to it it can it can it feels entirely different and i understand i think what she's trying to express or what she's expressing but in the form of like there's magic portals right right right i think it's just a very uh the call of the wild is what some people call it shoot you could call it being earth sensitive or you could call it being sensitive to the earth being able to feel the things right but then you're interpreting that feeling as being portals right right that's an issue so care you just recently talked to a guy

though that uh he lives on a ranch and that ranch is above a military base a lot of portals there's an underground military base of course there's probably a portal involved sure i think there is a portal good the military base is being shared with ash tar command okay that's a bad idea yeah you can't trust that nope i just interviewed re interviewed uh john edmunds who lives on a on a ranch that's like located on top of a military base in arizona that's also being shared by the ash tar command which is an off-planet race and he has a tremendous number of portals on his property oh yeah where our beings are always coming through and uh and basically disturbing their life in a multitude of ways see i heard that and i heard a sitcom i heard a damn sitcom a guy just

trying to mind his business on a ranch having a great time all these aliens keep showing up and meddling it's episodic you could have a different different alien of the week yeah the whole time yeah and you aren't even carrying left a little bit because i think she was thinking hey that's a sitcom she's a writer the way you describe that is there's all these portals coming on in this guy's ranch and it's really messing with their life like that's the it's a nuisance he's having trouble there they're messing they're turning the water off the electricity goes for haywire every time they portal in and out it's terrible oh oh yeah and aliens are real no big deal yeah i would watch i i don't know if i'd watch that show but there was a time in my life when i

watched more tv than i would have watched that show i'd give it a chance that sounds a little bit like fringe right the show right that show right the show that's your ticket so dan harman we know the answer to this question that robert's about to ask carry and that is that is there an interstellar war going on absolutely you bet let me ask you this is there some kind of intergalactic war going on right now i mean i hear about reptilians paladians you know i'm just a village idiot living in oakton virginia uh but i find this fascinating and i find you a very credible interesting person so is there some kind of conflict going on right now and who's winning yes uh it's kind of funny to hear you say that i mean even people that follow the bible which

does not necessarily tell you the whole truth and nothing but the truth nice to understand that that we're in a war of worlds you know that uh the whole truth i think what the truth is followed up by so help me god left that part off um i i just like the idea that robert david steele is like i think that you're a credible and interesting person after minutes earlier she said mark twain has been reverse aged i'm i'm enjoying his uh his fog horn leg horn manner of hey now everyone now i say i say now everybody knows you're a brilliant woman and i'm just a down home country lawyer god so fog horn leg horn no no no that was i was doing future trauma yeah yeah so uh you know hey there's a nurse or war going on but it's really like all of this is

not humans it's all et like all wars are anytime you see a war on earth what i've found out after all these years of investigating is that all of those wars have an et basis so these are not just wars between humans the way we conventionally think about war this is and you know it's very it's very popular to think about humans as a warlike species actually that's not true humans are not warlike in the way that these other species are the we're talking about the negatively based species that i mean it's there's so much of this that that constantly pops up there's this hiding behind attributing things to aliens that you don't want to recognize humans are capable of yeah it's very weird to me but and it also hides it also hides their fundamental

fascination with war and their desire for to talk about all of the the heroism and and all that shit that we associate with war without having to feel bad about being one of the primary drivers of it i guess not her specifically but you know war in general right because you can have like randy kramer's a celebrated murderer of tons of aliens protected the earth for for decades and yeah right it's very it's a very strange world view to me by i don't know so robert david steel asks if trump knows about this stuff does he know about these aliens and i will say that carrie's response interesting is it fascinating it's credible okay interesting okay and credible my sources say that yes trump is very knowledgeable in fact according to mark

richards his wife is used as a her an alien conduit do it to a certain race which he will not reveal to me which race that is uh except to say that it isn't the lion being beings and it i believe it's not the the reptilians i'm going to pause there really quick because there's there's more revelations but i would guess yeah if mark richards is not telling her which race malania is a conduit for that implies that is not a good race of aliens i feel like you would just come out and say it if it was the if it was a plate of the adians or or whomever yeah it's got to be the mantis beings or the reptilians like it would if it was the raptors he would just be like yeah balania's got a one to one hotline yeah the raptor princess everything is cool we get our president is in

touch with our allies in space it's good it's got to be one of the bad it's the draco or some shit she's actually mako shark rampant that's what it has to be like a bad alien race it has to be there's no other like why wouldn't he tell her which one it was yeah that's a really good question all we know is it's not the lion because i didn't know there was a lion alien oh of course there was a lion alien what are you talking about what about the dog traders well the the mercantile dogs the mercantile dogs right right that sounds like who trump would be interested in dan he is a businessman yeah i know that they're mercantile dogs and then they're the feline contests who are into archaeology right but i love i love days like today i didn't think that those feline

contests were the lions right right i feel like that's slightly different well i guess i guess that's a good i guess that's a good question when we're talking about feline contests as a whole does that mean everything in the feline uh uh what phenotype or genus you know like everything but isn't it the case that lion all the way down to a little tiny isn't it the case that a lot of those species came into being by virtue of like natural pressures that exist on earth that's true that's true they have common ancestors right right in the feline family and you would assume that there if there's feline aliens they wouldn't have had the same pressures that would lead them to uh that's fair i'm going to go with genetic engineering they make all of themselves from

the different inspirational series of cats could be there we go point is melania is probably in touch with some evil aliens yeah that sounds right and i'm just going based on what carry is saying so this i can't i cannot stress this enough the assumption has to be if mark won't tell her it can't be good news yeah because he always tells her the specifics that's always one of his things is like there are certain areas where he's like i'm going to be one hundred percent specific and then others where he almost like she writes down that he turned and looked and gave me a knowing new answer yeah exactly like why didn't she ask him what race he was talking about right yeah and his his uh silence speaks volumes that's what i would say anyway there's more there's more news

on the geopolitical alien front okay so uh this is sort of a component of what you're talking about yes putin has been read in uh and and even putin's clone uh what i understand it is said that he's been a clone for a while now um oh yeah apparently putin's a clone just carpet bombing just carpet bombing why not putin's clone drop it in there well and i mean at the end there she says putin's been a clone for a while now there is no putin anymore i guess and is this the clone from the alternate universe that they brought over or is this like a clone clone is this a nazi clone see did verner brawn von brawn make this clone this is the problem with this interview style is that even though uh robert david steel is on target and focused right not a lot of follow up questions

which i would be interested to know exactly what are you saying about putin he's the is the head of state for one of the largest countries in the world and you're saying he's a clone that's a recipe to get a bog down interview down that's what yeah yeah that's true so we learned in that last clip also that they're lay lion aliens which is cool of course and in this next clip we we find out about another race of aliens that i think actually has come up in the past okay but it's it's really funny to hear like what what when you're called on to give evidence for these things existing right where do you go there's also what what you call the dragon moths that are very diabolical there's an airport in sydney australia that has a gigantic uh plaque carving of a dragon moth

and so you have to put two and two together on that one so there's a plaque in an airport in sydney apparently uh that has a dragon moth and therefore diabolical aliens uh okay okay all right so okay dragon moths diabolical here's how you prove them there's a plaque yeah there's a single plaque in one airport as far as i know yeah in the world put two and two together bingo there aren't even two there might be but we know of one because i have one sort of information i can't even put one in one together yeah so uh they get off the topic of some of these aliens and uh robert david steel wants to know about free energy he wants to kind of end this interview don't we all free energy yeah and it turns out there is free energy has to do with vortexes

or something that's trouble tesla is in play right why didn't we dh him he's number one on the list right you'd think dh tesla fuck that guy was that guy was a thousand years out of his time he had wireless energy before anybody no no no this is incredible bring tesla back mark twain okay he wrote some books he's clever use the n word a lot um so apparently we learned uh how you can get some free electricity and and put your mic down for this one too because i need you to hear the specifics okay the specifics i will say one thing about carry that you can really count on is that she does not get bogged down in details okay she's not into the specifics free energy comes out of the you know the energy vacuum the the black hole and by the way uh apparently there

are black holes in each of us and in the earth center of the earth which is more information that i've been getting lately so in essence free energy is all around us it it comes in fact i've been told by one person you can stick uh something in the ground and in essence uh access electricity so there are lots of different types of of energy okay so if i understand correctly someone told carry recently that you could put something in the ground and access electricity dan it turns out that the black holes were inside us all along sure sure somebody somebody a non-specific person somebody told carry that you could take a thing something who knows what that thing is it could be anything you put it in the ground electricity access free energy bingo

i i really think she should get a patent on that quick somebody needs to tell her to get a patent called that thing date the stamp and mail it to yourself yeah that's the kind of sentence like if you're doing an interview you just can't let that slide somebody told me you put a thing in the ground and you got free energy electricity what are you talking about what they who told you that what is this anybody interviewing the president what are we doing what are we allowing you to get away with here yeah this is this is oh so apparently we have black holes in us and we poke the ground and you get electricity so that's free right cool as long as you find the thing though oh yeah that's the struggle it's going to take you a lot of energy to find that thing i think i yeah i have a strong

suspicion i don't think it's energy neutral i'll tell you that right now so also it turns out mark richards has something he's been telling carry about another source of energy okay and this is how the interview comes to an end they wrap it up because also another thing too is that robert david steel is very clear that like i'm trying to keep this interview tight this is going to be about 35 minutes we're not going to go like in the same way he's sticking to the business it's like no and i that's why you don't ask what's that thing you poke the ground right right that's another 10 minutes yeah that's what i'm saying maybe you're not going to get an answer no what thing is it you know it's something i can't tell you that i can't tell you somebody i can't

tell you who it was it was a classified situation so there's another source of energy this is this is just a silly end to this interview mark richards talks about the energy from neutron stars that we are now able to fuel our craft with the bts did not want us to have access to that goes beyond free energy so um that's what i would have to say about that and i believe that airlines are using it right now for their planes what i believe airlines went bankrupt and have to use free energy to get their planes off the ground what you know i'm worried about radiation sickness plain loads of people are being quarantined because flu presents the same way as radiation sickness we have to stop because i've made a commitment to my audience that i do 30 minute

not one hour uh interviews and stick by that commitment my friend can't you can't go a lot can't do a part two nope i enjoy the strong assertion that she believes that airline companies all went bankrupt and so now have to use free energy which is from space or something now now answer me this dan why wouldn't they have used free energy in the first place well they have to go bankrupt in order to get access to the free energy because once they go bankrupt then the reptilians have them right where they want them right right right they become compromised right to the lion alien raptor alliance right with the mantid sure um and by virtue of that now all these aliens can fly for free and that's how they get 200 000 people out of here every day

that's the whole idea you know how they have that like curtain that goes up yeah yeah because there's mantids up there it's all fucking mantids up there yeah god damn it yeah you're just sitting in the back you're like why do they need that curtain is it because they don't want to look back at us a dirty poor people back here no it's because they're it's it's mantid beings and then a big party of aliens i think a mohammed been solved in this area why not yeah it's a bit a bit strange so i was curious about what steel was saying there at the end about the radiation sickness that he's worried about i found it fascinating i watched another video of his and apparently he believes the corona virus situation radiation sickness yes from free energy well i believe it probably has

to do with five g because i think that's another that's another popular area of the conspiracy world that weirdly i haven't heard alex talk about right why we haven't talked about it on the show he's talked about a little bit you know the the we have to go to somewhere in virginia where there's one no no no he's talked about five g but not in relation to the corona oh no that's there are some people who have been like it's all because china has five g this is all just that and they're trying to cover it and say it's a virus okay so robert david steel i think is a little bit on that tip because i watched another video of his where he was saying that like these people they're on the planes and they get sick and then you think it's flu then you get them off the planes and they're

fine because it's radiation sickness okay all right so that's his theory all right i uh i don't think that one's valid for a lot of reasons nope i like that he's trying again you take things based on context you can't take any real argument that's made seriously yes because you're also discussing mark twain de aging through pills perhaps sure you're you're you're you're talking to the age of 28 by the way yes yeah yeah you're talking about fringe being real well and we can just go and get our doppelganger from another dimension ah but they're evil putin's a clone of course he is um why wouldn't he be put a thing in the ground to get electricity just put a thing in the thing in the ground put a thing in there this is this is absurd i i do love it when she just

carpet bombs assertions that i've literally never heard anybody ever even consider as a possibility before and she just it's it's non stop this was a tight half hour interview yeah and there was nothing but gold there when you only have to watch a half hour interview and you get mark twain you get thing in the ground like it's that's that's a good day in my book yeah yeah that if project camel i could stay just that and of course it can't it can't you know nothing nothing good in this world stays good no but no especially not now we can at least look at this new interview and and see the ways in which it has those similarities to what gave us a break in the past and i'm glad for that so thank you kary even if we are making fun of

this entire everything about 100 of it at the very least 20 percent of it which is how many people we are missing yes oh yeah i forgot about that too 20 percent of the population being eaten by aliens what i don't understand is like it's it seems like it's easier to just believe that the problems are aliens you know yeah wars are aliens and and it's so hard to stay informed about everything that's going on and really trace the the root causes of behind these problems and solve it yeah so if you're choosing to go the easy route why are you then making it really complicated and miserable to live inside like if we were going on ignorance is bliss why is it so miserable to be to be take the easy route man well because it's not miserable this stuff isn't real so you're not

actually facing any of the effects of like what the downside of if aliens were really right people all over the 20 right right like what she's describing is terrifying right but i don't see her she doesn't seem happy to me no like when the whole point of doing this is to avoid the bad feelings of instead of just instead feeling miserable and helpless in the face of aliens stealing 200 000 people that ostensibly you like yeah yeah i don't know that's a real bummer yeah i don't have an answer for that i don't know i hate my government doing things in my name that i find reprehensible and evil but i am fine if raptor steal 200 000 people i'm still friends with them come on it's chocolate you know you got to look at this on a sliding scale sort of thing

yeah but at least they haven't abducted 1.5 billion people sure yeah yeah yeah so this has been a little bit of a fun break we'll be back with another episode but it you know there's a secondary aspect to this too which is like really pointing out that there is less of a wall between the worlds of alex jones and project camalot than necessarily appears to be the case yeah like you have this interview we're carrying saying this stuff about like mark twain got de-aged and i know i keep going back to that but it's because i love it it's my favorite thing much like the last season the last episode of fringe you are my favorite thing mark twain was the age just my version of josh jackson all right spoiler alert fringe

i think it's i think it's past its time yeah i think so if you're going to watch you're going to watch it you it's too late i regret nothing so you have carry saying stuff like that and it is like really out there and like obviously you'd have to be just completely incredulous to not be like hey what are you talking about right show me any kind of evidence of any of the things that you're saying and you know it's silly and and you can write it off as like oh these are just people saying they're just talking shit yeah but she's being interviewed by a guy who was a frequent guest on alex's show intel he said i believe children are being taken to bar spaces so like it's the connection is it's closer than uh it might feel comfortable to recognize i kind of feel

like the only difference in world view between alex and carry is taste in movies maybe you know like i'm talking depending on the movies that they want to believe our predictive programming that's where they go what yeah what sort of are you more into sci-fi yeah yeah are you are you oblivion or are you a universal soldier which which one do you want to go with i'm talking less about world views yeah i'm talking more about like what standards do you apply to what you're putting on absolutely like alex was perfectly comfortable having robert david steel on and like presenting him as an expert in stuff until he went a little too far right and then he had to be like he had to be excised because everyone was making fun of alex for believing in mars bases

and so you gotta you gotta take a step back from that whereas like it's it's the same level of vetting that leads to project camelot doing an episode with pete peterson where they now in 2017 paul bill ryan has to come out and say we did no due diligence on this interview like it's the same level of work that's being done by these two things just one is political espionage and one is magic space stuff and i guess that gets back to what you're saying yeah the taste in movies yeah which do you prefer the manchurian candidate or universal shoulder soldier if you apply that level of just like i don't give a shit let's do this yeah then whatever your taste in movies will dictate that's the product that you live in a sad world i guess that's the saddest thing i think i've

ever thought and on that note yeah we'll be back we we will but until then we have a website we do it's knowledge fight dot com we're also on twitter we are on twitter it's at knowledge underscore fight and i go to bed jordan we're also on facebook we indeed we are and if you'd like to download the show please go to itunes or wherever podcastual apps is all download leave a review etc share you know the whole deal donated it'll be great yep we'll be back but until then uh i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i am putin's other clone andy and chan's us you're on the air thanks for holding so alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you