Knowledge Fight - #405: Root Races and Terminated Spiders

Episode Date: March 6, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan have to stop the presses on Alex Jones because the newest installment of the Mark Richards interview series was released over at Project Camelot, and that is not something that can wait. In this installment, the gents learn about UK UFO business, dumb takes on public health, and the coming X-Men threat.

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge I'm a huge fan and I love your work knowledge fight knowledge fight I love you hey everybody welcome back knowledge right I'm Dan I'm George we're a couple dudes like sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones indeed we are Dan Jordan Jordan quick question what up have you ever been to an art gallery yeah yeah I would assume most people have been to art galleries I don't know I'm sorry I'm sorry I don't mean like an art gallery I mean like I went to one with you your girlfriends and artists I know no I mean god damn it I'm trying to think of like getting museum like that kind

of art gallery I've probably been to the museum itself a lot of family in California have you been to the get a lot of touristy shit in California a lot of stuff that I don't remember the specifics of but yeah I wouldn't be surprised at all if I've been to the literal getty really yeah but I've been to like the field museum here in Chicago I've been to the the aquarium that's sort of a museum of fish is there any kind of particular artists that you no appreciate no none no no I don't like art at all no none of this Rembrandt bullshit I respect art and I appreciate those who appreciate it but I also don't understand it you don't understand it no like visual art period yes like sculpting I can I can look at it and think that's cool

that is about the depth of my understanding okay there are things that pop my eyes you know like intrigue me yeah to look at but I don't understand why I've tried to have people explain things to me about aesthetics yeah stuff like that but it is completely foreign to me it's like they're speaking another language really I have no idea my brother has a lot of that he's very into art and very very talented with creating of art like drawing and and design and and also really enjoys art itself and I just have none of it I'm just it's not that's fascinating why do you think that is I don't know okay the end I don't know I don't I honestly I thought about it over the course of my life and like I never was too into art yeah as a younger person but I tried to

like take little courses on it here and there tip your toe in there see what's going on nothing right over the head that's crazy why I don't why do you shame me it's I'm not shaming you I it reminds me somebody told me that like oh no I don't really like music and I it just boggles my mind whenever like there's so many cool shit that I don't understand in the music I know I understand let them be I don't understand not being in the world I don't understand it at all I go back and forth on it on music or understanding not liking it I enjoy it in periods of my life but I also really like the spoken word like audiobooks and podcasts and stuff like that so you know it's it's I there are some people who just need music all the time and it's in their bones and stuff I

am aware it like you I see yeah and you know for me I'm sort of in the middle and I assume that there's some people even further to like I don't even I don't I don't know it's just a bunch of beeps and boops yeah I don't know as always as always I'm on the extreme end of just about everything sure yeah it's a big world and I don't know too much about art but I do know a lot about Alex Jones and I know quite a bit about the former nothing about the latter and that's the podcast indeed so Jordan today we get an interesting situation to go over and we'll get into all of it but before we do we take a little moment say thank you to some people who have signed up and are sporting the show so first chitis maybe I think it might be a misspelling of chris

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stunt fight and he's getting more and more comfortable these days bragging about literally murdering people that does I've seen reported yeah around great he's up to that again yep yep cool there he is I wish those headlines would say again but you know everyone learns a new at some point and that's great hey as long as everybody's getting there sure yeah if you get there you get there Alex Jones brags a lot about murder he does it a lot so Monday's show was four hours long and full of emotional trouble and also just awful right wing content the prospect of this Friday episode being another long dense affair just didn't seem like it would be right in terms of being a steward of our audience's well-being I did not feel comfortable with that and so what I decided

to do is cover this past week's content of Alex's show on our episode for Monday so on Monday we'll be going over this past week and the chaos that's ensued on Alex's show and today I think I thought we could spend a little time doing something a little more fun and fancy free the tensions are high in the world what with the growing public health situation the democratic primary and countless other real world stressors so it seemed clear to me that if we're going to survive we need something as removed from real world stressors as possible and just our luck at the end of last week carry Cassidy over a project Camelot release do not tell me do not tell me with murder slash slash space hero mark Richards and that means that even if we weren't in this sort of position where the

tensions are really high we would still need to drop everything absolutely and cover this interview yeah yeah yeah to get everyone up to speed who haven't heard all of our old episodes about this mark Richards has been in prison since the 80s having been convicted of orchestrating the murder of an associate of his it's very complicated to get into briefly but we've been over a bunch and mark totally did that shit yep mark was also a little bit of a cult leader and he'd enlisted young men in his work crew to be knights of his new camelot which would come into its ultimate form when they used a laser to isolate marine county from the rest of the United States at which point it would become mark's kingdom yes they were surprisingly close to

making that a reality I don't know if they were since going to prison mark is married a woman named Joanne who runs the earth defense headquarters I'm unclear on exactly what they do other than sell marks writing and books that and they book Joanne to speak at space weirdo conferences through Joanne mark has created an overly elaborate backstory aimed at building an absurdly heroic mythos for himself as well as proving that he's innocent of the crime he's in jail for definitely committing he is not innocent as it turns out he couldn't have been involved in the murder because he was off-planet doing space space mission at the time case closed dude is innocent it does sound like he he couldn't have done it at some point Joanne met Carrie Cassidy who runs a

YouTube channel where people lie to her about space adventures Carrie interviewed Joanne about mark's heroics and through this Carrie ended up being welcomed to interview mark in prison at vakaville in person from there the rest is history Carrie has interviewed mark 12 times now in the stories he tells her range from standard conspiracy shit to most the most outrageously fun nonsense I've ever heard his sentient spacecraft manurva has a delightful personality on it but will not fly with anyone but mark because of loyalties speaking of loyalties the noble raptor aliens are viciously loyal to mark personally to the point where he once had an affair with their princess the raptor princess that is true he knew jfk as a child he's met aliens ranging from the mercantile

dogs to the spider leadership to the archaeologist cats didn't you know when Winston Churchill too or no the dutchman knew the dutchman his dad alice his dad is the dutchman yes who sad story I can't even remember half the dumb shit he said that we've covered on this show but most of it's really funny like how raptor aliens were featured in Jurassic park and the walking with dinosaurs show and how raptors like to come to earth to go antiquing yeah it's amazing it's amazing nonsense also there's a 50 50 chance he's aware of us listeners have pointed out that in an early mark richards episode we joked about how if he's listening the way to subtly signal to us was to tell Carrie about squid or octopus aliens which he did do in the 11th interview maybe the 10th

one of the more recent ones he did bring up octopus aliens okay bad it's inconclusive to me though since there's a real good chance that octopus aliens were bound to show up at some point but it could also be a wink not clear so officially if you're listening mark next time tell Carrie that the octopus aliens are controlled by a benevolent ai it's important that they're benevolent because you would expect an octopus to be evil yeah yeah that seems random enough for me to be able to make a conclusive judgment that is absolutely it is that or pick world cup games and if we get this signal from you we will start feeding you messages no we will not yeah absolutely not this needs to be a two-way street we need to start talking to Carrie Cassidy through him no as that

would ruin the purity of the turf as i've discussed same with me not calling alex yes yes uh can't get involved of course of course so anyway Carrie just went back to see mark and now it's time to see what there is to learn from about the real world from this professor slash murderer let's see what happens here's the introduction that follows a very standard course hi everyone i'm carrie cassidy from project cam lot and i'm here today to talk about my latest interview with captain mark richards of the secret space program called total recall 12 space command so she always calls the total recall because she has to remember the interview and then repeat what he said later because they don't let her record it right in prison because he's a murderer but i i'd not

heard any of these that have a subtitle space command i take it we're going to be talking exclusively about space command that's what you would think fair enough it is not fair enough so you might think like a i've seen shows where people interview murderers in prison that happens netflix has a whole goddamn genre of show about yeah that happens a lot why won't they let carrie do that yeah it does it does seem like somebody is screwing with carrie somewhere along the line i've never heard her explain exactly what the game she's playing is but in this 12th interview she explains how she is allowed to even talk tomorrow okay what i always do is go to selano prison uh and i've been doing this interview now for around five

years and this is again the 12th interview i am accompanied by his wife joanne richards who helps to facilitate the interview and because i am not doing this as an official journalist because journalists are denied from interviewing him and oprah tried many years ago and was denied according to so what i do is go in as a friend and i am not allowed to take a recording device of any kind i end up getting a tiny uh pencil and and i'm able to use that to do the interview so so good it's not a cram this time as it has been in other i believe other installments yes that's what she's doing is she's defrauding the prison yes she is coming in there as a friend taking interview notes and telling them she's not a journalist because if she was a journalist she

would be banned from entering she would not be allowed to speak to mark probably yeah there's some sort of a rule i'm not sure what it is i have no idea how i would get to the bottom of this or if i even believe it necessarily because it's all just coming from mark i don't believe oprah tried to interview mark no i don't believe that for a second maybe i mean she talks to people like dr os is there that much of a difference yeah i don't know what her standards are maybe she would want to do a do some special there's the interviewed mark that is i'm going to help you build that laser that's conceivably possible at some point oprah might have been wanting to do some kind of a story on him being a murderer or something i don't know sure it seems unlikely that you'd want to

interview him the same way that carry does that does not seem like um so yeah cool i hope that doesn't get back to the guards at solano prison i hope that her saying that on her show doesn't end up resulting in her being barred from visiting mark that would be that would be a tragic irony that would be a tragic irony i don't believe her for a second no no i don't believe it either no so uh there's some stuff going on at uh solano prison in vacaville uh that affected mark's mood at the time of this interview basically that prison had been on lockdown for the two weeks prior because of a killing in the prison and mark was quite tired this time when i interviewed him apparently all the things going on has been quite uh draining over those few weeks

and so that's the kind of thing that does go on it's possible he was also under attack but he did not reveal anything about that i'm gonna leave that last part alone yep uh and just say she's not making that up on uh on january 29th 2020 i'm dan this is 2020 god damn it two inmates were murdered at cal state prison solano where mark has incarcerated the two attacks were separate but all indications are that they were related three 20 p.m two inmates attacked a lone guy in the general population yard and then less than a minute later another duo attacked another man in the yard at this point i can't find any reporting on an official explanation for the motive but it's a pretty messed up turn of events violence at a prison is not that uncommon but this sort of thing

like a pair of coordinated killings i don't think that happens every day i i don't think that happens anywhere i could see this making mark a bit tired since there's probably a bit of increased security protocol and whatnot and you know what i i don't care much for mark and i like to laugh at his uh his dumb stories but you know these this is a pretty unexamined piece of like what life is like for people who are incarcerated like mark had nothing to do with these killings uh as far as anybody can tell and obviously i don't have any suspicion of that right right but because of them happening they introduce all kinds of life stressors to uh do his day to day life that like that's awful i can't imagine not getting some sort of p eight p s d in some form from that

yeah yeah yeah that's fucked up it's it's very tragic and i feel bad for him on a human level for that absolutely so kary has a big thing that she's into on this episode and it actually i would assume it space command no how is that possible everything is space command okay fair enough all of this never mind fair enough you're right so kary is into this um this story and i i've heard her talk about it in a couple of the interviews that i've listened to that we haven't covered like when she went and talked to those magicians that were boring how is that possible so there is a uk based ufo event called rendelshim the rendelshim event okay and she actually went to the uk and that's when she one of the at least one of the magicians was a british dude right and

she was interviewing him and a lot of it had to do with rendelshim and so she's been getting into the case trying to get to the bottom of this 1980 uk uh ufo sighting and it turns out might have been some trouble okay because of that she might be having some consequences oh i had been in england over the holidays uh right before returning on january 12th uh that night uh before it was around 11 30 at night we had nearly had a head on with a black suv range rover that uh was in a two lane road and had come over to our lane and was headed straight for us raptors we managed to avoid it at the last minute uh the driver did not seem to realize they were on our side of the road at any time and uh actually appeared to be programmed uh oh uh oh we got programmed people driving suv is

trying to run carry off the road i just i just it's it's just like with the we're not sure if mark was under attack right everything is about you yeah and this everything is about you and this extends into so many areas of even like there's the stuff we cover like how many times was roger stone under attack yeah back in the early day before he was uh arrested or anything like when he uh like the there was the polonium poisoning affair that was the great that is even like that's you know you forget about the like multiple times alex tried to say for someone tried to run roger off the road yeah yeah yeah absolutely this is this is something that uh it gets a lot of mileage in these worlds yep it's completely unverifiable nope super scary absolutely

but if you believe it it means that you're doing something that someone is afraid of exactly so if you can get someone to believe the premise you get them to buy the conclusion really easily if the reptoids aren't trying to kill you you're not working hard enough right that's the truth and you know what you're working hard on something that's very scary and threatening to the powers that be and that is rental shim so i believe the suv was headed for us as a kind of a warning possibly because of my sudden interest in revisiting the rental shim forest siding and and landing that went on for several days and i did ask mark richards about it in my interview so jill talked to him a little bit more about this later um but the basic story of the rental

shim event is uh it was on december 26th 1980 and a security patrol saw some lights appearing to fall near rental shim forest they went towards the lights and claimed that they saw a glowing metallic object an hour later police arrived they couldn't find any evidence of any of the things that the patrolmen claimed they have seen nothing in terms of even like downed trees or yeah yeah that that's super suspicious two days later lieutenant colonel charles halt came to the site to check things out and he reported seeing flashing lights in the distance among a few other anomalies one thing that's very helpful in this case though that's so absent in a lot of other ones is that halt kept very detailed notes from his visit to the forest and even

made a tape of his findings okay you can find if you're interested all right the rental shim forest ufo siding is a gigantic comedy of errors from 40 years ago that's been exaggerated and embellished by paranormal and conspiracy scammers and the entire story of it is pretty well explained by people back in 1980 mistaking various things as proof of aliens carry has recently for some reason become interested in reopening the rental shim files and good for her i hope she has fun but there's no chance that any government agent mind controlled in a black suv is going to try and run her off the road because she's doing so i wanted to get into like the whole thing about rental shim yeah and like really deconstruct it but it's really simple here's what happens okay

there was an object in the sky like a meteor yeah that came down near rental shim right it's documented around the same time that this thing happened so the patrol people on the night of december 26th very clearly saw what looked to be a fireball sure basically because it's that it broke into the sky the atmosphere explodes the whole thing they go arm again they go and try and examine it realize that you know they don't know where it came down right they see a flashing light in the distance and they're like oh my god look at that thing flashing they get all weirded out yeah the police come they don't find any indications of like a ufo landing or anything like that because of course not right two days later this lieutenant colonel comes and he starts

poking around they find these little bits of evidence in quotes one of them is little divots in the ground that they think are landing sites of course i saw the pictures of these they're very small tiny little aliens they are animal digs no little aliens they are very small aliens with the little tiny feet no okay come on he also ends up seeing lights in the distance aha see any notes that they are flashing at a five second interval yeah now there happens to be a lighthouse exactly where those where i saw so many aliens whenever i was driving in illinois one night there was a you look out off the side of the road there's thousands of blinking red lights aliens yeah gotta be so

there is a lighthouse where these this blinking light yes was now this lieutenant colonel halt he was like his base where he was stationed is a different place geographically than rendelsham forest it is to the north of it so from his perspective where he normally is that that lighthouse is to the southeast but since he traveled south to go to rendelsham forest it was straight to the east so when he saw this light he discounted the possibility that it was the lighthouse because he was accustomed to seeing it from the southeast so the perspective of it is completely right and that's even present in his nose okay he says that it's like the lighthouse is to the southeast but it's not anymore right you've gone south right so all of the instances of things

that people in 1980 were taking as like indications that there's aliens afoot yeah and all this it's all very easily explained by little misunderstandings thinking that rabbit diggings are a landing obviously true right it's it's a comically lame well in terms of like these sorts of events because there is a lot of documentation from the first hand stuff like you look at it it's like oh this is weak not good this is bad i like the idea of a guy not understanding that geography doesn't move with him like like no matter where he goes on the planet he's like well obviously the lighthouse is to the southeast of course i can i can kind of understand that not like being first in your mind no of course someone brings it up you got to realize like oh wait that's okay there we

go it's right over there it's a triangle it's a i'm a right angle gotcha whoops hypotenuse i do the whole thing so anyway no one's going to kill carry for looking into this dumb is the lieutenant colonel still alive i'm not sure question does he still own that black ray ranger over he was alive fairly recently i believe because i found some he actually does believe it's aliens now well yeah of course in direct contradiction of the notes right right right right but well he's no longer a lieutenant colonel i imagine he's got to make money somehow it's it's a weird thing there's a lot of dumb theories about it and there's a there's a actually a ton of of rangey conspiracy about right all right you got any good ones no i don't i don't even care okay but anyway it was

just a lighthouse anyway now carry that's the story of this show yep anyways it was a fucking lighthouse guys so carry gets into talking about the old corona virus sure sure oh man i did not even think that we were going to get mark richards opinion on the corona virus i'm not positive we do okay carry has some thoughts everybody so there's a big push not to allow advertisers to have advertisements on alternative people that are talking about this subject and therefore i'm going to you know why silly sign in place of that word so that we can get this uh monetized so that i can still pay my rent and also uh still just discuss the topic so this is the kind of uh censorship going on on youtube nowadays and everyone is aware of it so this is this is widely known this isn't

censorship carry is holding up a sign that says uh you know corona virus sure anyway youtube has a policy in place where they demonetize videos about topics that they determine to be sensitive for instance if there was just a mass shooting videos covering that shooting will often be demonetized and if you think about it for a second this policy makes absolute sense and it's probably one of the only compromises that the company can make to continue to exist yeah and be marginally responsible the goal is obviously to stop people from spreading misinformation whether intentionally or just by way of sloppy work after a shooting you could easily pass along a misidentification of a suspect or erroneous early reports of multiple shooters that kind of thing and if you have a

platform that's big enough that can be a detriment to the public information base in the case of the current corona virus situation it's really dangerous for people like carry to spread their views and i based this off the fact that about two weeks ago she released an interview about the corona virus with jim humble who happens to be the guy who invented the master mineral supplement oh no he sold mms as a cure for everything from hiv to cancer to acne but it was really just bleach a lot of the q and on johnny come lately's when you hear them at like advising people to drink bleach for medicinal reasons they're relying on the foundation of jim humbles work so if carry is going to do an interview with jim humble about the virus you can imagine it's full of the sort

of information that's not going to help anybody and may hurt people so these people are treating bleach like the generic version of mms is essentially what we're like it's cheaper to buy bleach than it is to yeah i think so that's that's and maybe they just don't want jim to get a cut yeah whatever yeah exactly i like it give it to keep fucking stick it to big pharma that's what i'm saying i haven't done enough digging into the q and on side of this or even the like sort of non q and on but current batch of weirdo side of things i don't even know some of them might actually even be promoting jim's stuff yeah themselves it may just be like a jim jim figured it out but so like you have people like harry and that's the kind of person that she's talking to

about an actual public health situation yeah that's bad if you're youtube you want to discourage that but you also probably don't want to just ban all talk about the virus you probably don't want to even ban all irresponsible talk about the virus since that could have the effect of stifling content creators feelings about being able to make what they want the perfect balance is really just to demonetize the subject if you want to cover cover the virus you're free to do so and youtube won't censor you however if you're trying to spread misinformation for clicks the demonetization serves as a demotivating factor so you have less incentive to be sensational about a sensitive topic exactly it's a tough situation and there's almost certainly some good faith actors who have ended

up getting their videos demonetized because of this rule but were i in their shoes i would kind of understand that and that's really the only way to preserve free expression on youtube while still catering to the advertisers that allow videos to be monetized in the first place if constant demands are made for monetizations of videos where carry interviews a guy wants you to drink bleach and youtube goes along with that it's only a matter of time before you're going to drive away all the big money advertising companies that make profiting off youtube even possible it's basically a killing the golden goose situation and it's probably a battle people like carry should realize it's not in their interest to fight you're only going to end up screwing over the ability to make any money

by insisting on making money on everything yeah it's a dime holding up a dollar it's very stupid yeah anyway carry's mad about it there shouldn't be a financial incentive to i i mean i you shouldn't profit off of a terrible tragedy like it seems very simple i agree yeah particularly in the immediate aftermath yeah exactly but you know i i i don't know i don't know where my feelings are on on the on the whole i think if i were creating an ideal world we would have some sort of a way that you wouldn't be able to monetize like let's say you're doing sandy hook conspiracy videos in 2020 yeah right yeah i still think maybe there should be some thing in place where you can't monetize that yeah and maybe there is there is i don't know i don't use youtube all that much

as a as a as a creator right i think so i have no idea it is it is frustrating though to not be because i feel like you should be able to ban videos that tell you to drink bleach that just feels like it shouldn't be that hard and then you go back into that and you're like okay well now where's the line and you're like well obviously i don't know where the goddamn line is but i just know you shouldn't be able to drink bleach yeah it's it seems simple so it's a it's a difficult uh the thing to figure out yeah where exactly the line is so anyway carry's talking about the virus and uh she predictably has a pretty similar theory to alex but is a little bit wilder so uh there is a rollout of a step-by-step program related to decreasing populations

and the step one is triggered by 5g oh i'm listening and that rollout now appears to be having an added sort of complexity level that involves this rollout sure so the two are really linked and i've done another video on this that has has been getting out there quite well i can say the chemtrails and nano are also part of that concoction so you got chemtrails and 5g being combined right the virus and i mean that's very similar to a lot of uh alex conspiracies the depopulation aspect of it is absolutely in play and alex's theories the so all the aliens are basically like uh uh witches and macbeth just throwing all of these different things in a cauldron trying to get all of human humanity to die yeah i think so i think that carry will

spell it out a little bit more later in the interview about exactly how the aliens play into it sure but for now it's 5g triggers the virus that are yeah that might be involved in chemtrails of course she doesn't get loop back to explain how chemtrails are involved but they're always involved again what chemtrails are just there sure you know so stage one is this 5g activation of sure and then mark has some news about stage two okay this is a plan there's also according to mark the step two will be more earth changes that are man made and a set of droughts that are going to be creating limitations on resources especially water and limitations on travel so these are key items to keep in mind going forward this is just fan fiction about the consequences of climate change yeah i

mean that's that's boo yeah boo that's reasonable of course there's going to be droughts and of course there's going to be man made changes yeah we're there yeah yeah totally she's just turning aliens into the yeah driving factor behind it yeah the man made part she's not saying it's because of like fossil fuel oh no of course that and all that she's she's saying it's aliens are directing humans to do this of course yeah great however you get there you gotta go no no no no no not in this case not in this case because in this case the the conclusion invalidates the the the correct okay thing that she's asserting okay so maybe if instead she said we need to switch to all renewable fuels in order to stick it to the aliens um i mean yeah that might be okay okay at least that would

be productively dumb so we get back to rendelsham now she's jumping all over the place okay got you you might earlier i was kind of expressing a little bit of confusion like why is she deciding to reopen this cold case i mean really cold case so regarding rendelsham we had a fascinating discussion and i had received a psychic psychic message telling me to revisit the case oh it happened in 1980 a lot of the psychic messages have started to change their stories have been changing their stories have been in conflict with each other and are suspicious of each other and there's a lot of evidence of mind control between the witnesses and among them i don't know the evidence of mind control is going to go with that sounds more like evidence

that some of them are lying yeah so jenny randles is the person who first primarily covered the rendelsham story in the press in the london evening standard and even wrote an early book about the event her works are largely credited with building some of the early hype surrounding the alleged sighting but in 2011 she said quote well some puzzles remain we can probably say that no unearthly craft were seen in rendelsham forest who we can also argue with confidence that the main focus of the events was a series of misperceptions of everyday things encountered in less than everyday circumstances that's one person who changed their tune but it's not recent that's mind control lieutenant colonel charles halt story is also changed but it changed to support the ufo

view he currently believes that ufo did show it back in 1980 which like i mentioned earlier relies on him kind of negating a bunch of documented evidence that some of it he himself created yeah but that's how you know it's d mind control he's on mind control another person who changed their story is jim pennison penniston wood who's one of the patrolman from the first night's affair he now claims that he touched a ufo that night but we lean in buddy weirdly that was never mentioned when he was initially interviewed about what happened around the same time that would be the first thing you mentioned seems like he's changed his story high on the list so there seems to me to be two sorts of people who

are changing their stories in this case the first are people who were supportive of the ufo narrative initially who've changed their position based on evidence an explanation mind control what was being misperceived mind control the other are people who are initially skeptical who have changed their position to believing the ufo narrative without any real reason any evidence and sometimes needing to contradict actual evidence d mind control if i were someone who was involved in this event i would probably also view everyone else suspiciously there are clearly some scammers in the mix and i don't know i don't know yeah that's not good he likes to touch the ufo that's fantastic so there's a cover up going on here obviously of course now it's obvious this cover

up and it has to do with ufo sure in england yes but did you know that it also has to do with our electoral system doesn't sound true now regarding rendelsham there is a presence behind the scene of the user usual suspects regarding mind control and that is the names that i've got listed here and they show up time and time again with regard to cover ups and that includes the alien autopsy the takedown of richard nixon our president back in those days of course this nixon president in 1980 back in those days he was i understand that she's probably talking about like prior to the rendelsham fair but um yeah i don't i don't know if the uh the nixon impeachment was mind control uh apparently it is what else could it have been this guy mark richards

and by virtue of their their connection carry is always right about everything so actually so the cover up is mind control based it extends to the alien autopsy and the nixon impeachment the tendrils are all over the ways that are unclear but it's it's all basically about magic and uh these individuals are highly remote you know our remote viewers involved in remote viewing involved in the origination or putting together the protocols within goswan of the original remote viewing protocols and uh this involved scientology practices as well so it's it's important to know that all of that is just information a way of packaging information a way of using your psychic abilities in a certain controlled way to access

events and and and future past and present events things going on that are what we call signal non locality and spooky action at a distance these are all terms related to that no they're not welcome back to this spooky actions at a distance no is a great expression well that's what it uh that's quantum entanglement spooky yeah it's what they call it at a distance it's what they call it i love it it's great and uh there's a lot of information and and investigations that have been done around this it also has been around from time immemorial not under these names but certainly practiced by dark magicians and light magicians everywhere which is you know warlocks you name it around the globe you name it uh just for eons so it's important to know this this is not new

it has simply been put into a kind of a protocol and scientology has also been instrumental so your theory from past mark richards carry cast of the episode yeah of her having some involvement in scientology yeah might be sounding a little less crazy now so apparently scientology is just a formulation of the making yourself able to use magical powers yeah that witches and warlocks you name it have been using forever yeah that's not good uh rough i mean i i i do like the idea that uh it's okay now to just be like well el ron got some stuff right uh he does know how to use magic right sure he he he got that elemental with him and they fucking rolled out you know that's the real issue here they're talking about the emeter that's totally what she's talking about

she's like we're making people clear but that's not el ron's thing that's actually what fucking john d did in the sixteen hundreds or whatever what if i were to tell you that instead of allowing you to use magic uh it's a black male racket what is what is black male but black magic dad certainly so we get uh kary's talking here about rendle shim and we get some of mark's perspective on it and i don't think he's correct mark said that the reason there's such a cover up of the rendle shim case is that there were over 200 people affected in the radius of the incidence that the aliens were attempting to land this has had been their second or third attempt to make contact with humans uh what happened the first couple times humanoid and in this landing attempt

they used telepathy to communicate with around 200 people he said there were both civilians and military in attendance and that lends itself to the idea that the landing was pre arranged and uh this also went over on over a period of eight days as opposed to the three that are usually talked about this is all made up no no come on it's alien hanukkah dan what's so fun when there is a cover up you could just say anything like evidence doesn't need to match anything because there's a cover it's a cover and you can see this in the like none of this next clip means a fucking thing when the aliens projected the images into the humans minds uh a lot of the humans couldn't handle it what they were projecting were images not only of themselves

but also of other races they've encountered right also other uh planets all together and the this this sort of package of telepathic information freaked the americans uh and the british and all those in attendance out i think he i think mark's been reading lovecraft yeah i really just think this is like freak them out yeah this is just like shadow out of time or this is this is pretty uh pretty similar to a couple of lovecraft stories i just like it whenever he throws out some details that that make things a lot more complicated like if this is their second or third time trying to contact us right don't they already know that their psychic abilities fuck people up yeah yeah what are you guys doing the aliens would carry actually speculates later that they're the spider

leadership ah the spiders were involved in this i thought they were going to be rabbit people that's the only thing that i would explain the whole exactly that's the only thing that makes sense to me so yeah the spiders are like all right guys look last time this really did not go well people freaked the fuck out um let's try to get uh guys i propose we don't change a thing no tweaks needed it was probably just those people's fault different people work differently be great although that does humanize the aliens quite a bit and they're not human the spiders exactly most likely according to carry's theory so a bunch of people freaked out couldn't handle it because they saw a bunch of alien beings in their head which again yeah classic lovecraft yeah the idea that you

catch a eldritch glimpse of another world and it drives you mad yes yeah yes it's just all the human mind can't handle it so uh but you might think like okay then what happened with them wouldn't they still be raving mad people throughout rendelship no wow turns out mark might have also seen men in black okay a lot of the humans never recovered their their memories were wiped afterwards uh i guess through military mind control sure attempts were made in that regard some of those humans lost neuralizer never recovered you know uh then there was also a an exchange of fire because when there was an overload from the aliens to the humans the humans reacted and then the aliens reacted because the humans reacted sure and there was an emotional overload that went to these artificial intelligence

that the aliens brought with them who then reacted to the overload of emotional energy and apparently uh one side or the other open fire i'm not sure which there was friendly fire as well individuals well they were all in a circle this is mad again adding that little detail of this is their second or third time just makes that so much better afterwards like if you're the spider that was in charge of this you're getting called into a meeting with your boss like hey hey you should have known better because how'd you let this happen this is an event this is the second or third time so that means i thought before it was just the humans got fucked up now i know that we're creating a feedback loop where everybody explodes there's contagious gunfire and the aliens have

to be using like human weapons or else it would leave evidence of alien weapon discharges all over the place of course and then because the aliens and the humans are both in this feedback loop the ai gets triggered there's an emotional overload yep holy shit yeah this is a quack guys this was a disaster the first time yeah i'm gonna say that maybe that was just we landed in the wrong spot we got to go to the uk you idiot i just picture the spider going in to see his boss and dudes just like you're so fired you are so fired we have to do a 40 year cover up about this now do you understand oh that's really fucking up at your job that really is fucking up at your job totally oh back when i worked at groupon i got a price wrong on one of the deals and that was like a

huge oh yeah huge mistake that i ended up having to get in trouble for i all worked out okay but it was a big chaotic day i can't imagine if i was that spider holy shit i wouldn't recommend it no so anyway don't know that is okay thank you um but thanks for reminding me but actually it might be okay because mark met a guy uh mark also said he has met a man near selenus california who was an mp at the time it was an attendance on the rendelsham meeting and landings and he said he's never regained his memories completely but lost his mind and never recovered from that either um and that this this was uh so that this was covered up in a in a huge way all right that makes sense i i love this i love this type of storytelling

like it's my favorite type of storytelling have you ever seen the magicians the sci-fi show no i have i i will guarantee carry has but okay this is my favorite form of storytelling introduce a problem and then immediately know the guy who can solve it like zero time difference between them just like hey i don't know if this is true or not well guess what i know a guy the end it's perfect well and also one of the things i have a little bit of a problem with here is that mark uh committed that murder in 1982 yeah and went to prison in 1984 off planet right here's the thing that event took place in december 1980 so if there was a former mp who was there who lost his mind right is a brief window well he lost his mind in prison since 84 if he met this guy in

salinas it has to be that this guy was an mp lost his mind yeah went to california was wondering yes immediately the window is small first thing that happen unless of course astral travel sure spooky action over distance sure sure absolutely i don't buy this anyway so the coronavirus according to carry and mark is a depopulation plane of course and we know this i don't i don't believe just we just know well mark knows this many months prior to this whole occurrence and and breakout uh of this so-called virus uh basically there was a plan according to mark to eliminate 500 million of uh chinese chinese this was their plan this is leaked was leaked

to mark and i guess a certain group that he works with in the military really and they were going to try to you don't even buy that one china of going down this path obviously they failed important points so called virus yeah i love i love so called i love it right second it was leaked to mark yep by the people he works within the military sure it was but you also see similarities between her narrative and alex's narrative in terms of china wanting to depopulate there was a chinese plan all of this is very closely in line with a lot of the things that are the underpinnings of up till this point at least alex's conspiracy narrative about this which is weird yeah weird i i immensely enjoy the so called you can put that in front of anything and everybody's like oh really

it's kind of just being an asshole yeah isn't it yeah so here we see another similarity between her view of this and alex there's no doubt that this is a this version is a bi weapon no it is unstable it will mutate and it is triggered as well by 5g and mark was not clear on whether that was the case a lot of investigation has been done recently so here you see a similarity and a kind of difference because alex as far as i've heard hasn't committed to the 5g necessarily being involved although i have heard at least a caller make that point he didn't push back on it so it's entertained on alex's show at least but you have a fuller version here of it is a bi weapon it's triggered by 5g they're interconnected also at the end they're here like this is just

carry mark didn't even say that yeah yeah yeah this is supposed to be about her interview with mark and she's saying he didn't say this you know what so far i think she knows something and that is mark was not having a good day so he's not bringing the he's not bringing the heat this time yeah i'm not hearing the heat out of it he he said she said he said he just didn't know uh he's supposed to like he's not everything he's supposed to wink nodding or something like that he just she just gave me a mark doesn't know so in this next clip is kind of where my brain just was like i don't even know what to do and i stared at my computer for like five minutes okay after hearing this i was just like i don't i don't know what's going on you got mind controlled there's evidence even in

the documentation behind 5g saying that it will uh that oxygen uh is actually it attracts um oxygen attracts 5g somehow there's some kind of relationship there between uh the frequencies of 5g and oxygen and that as a consequence humans around it will have trouble breathing i just didn't know i don't know what to do i don't know what to do oxygen attracts 5g 5g attracts oxygen i don't know what's going on yeah that's the kind of thing that makes me want to just hide in the closet oxygen attracts 5g i don't i can't i can't i can't do this no no when somebody says oxygen attracts 5g you stop everything and you listen to them listen to them especially when they mumble through it very very non specifically it's just very convincingly yeah oxygen attracts how do you

think oxygen give me any kind of reasonable way that oxygen could attract 5g well you see oxygen what is it right do you mean that literally or is that like what give me what is oxygen give me the chemical what even is the chemical compound of oxygen oxygen it's oh too yes i understand the oxygen molecules are bonded to each other right there's a free electron i have no idea all right so we're dealing with an isotope of oxygen maybe i don't i don't know i don't know i hear stuff like that and i just i i almost get into like uh trance yeah i'm just like no i i just don't understand how you can say that yeah so there's a lot of people who have got the coronavirus covid 19 there's a lot of people who particularly in china there's large numbers of people who have

passed away because of complications and the pneumonia and what have you carry would say that this is not true and in fact there's something else going on so as of february 16th the numbers mark had was a hundred thousand humans were involved he said 30 had died 30 were infected and 40 were taken off world and shipped to other planets that's a lot of billions for food and and so forth okay if i respect them easier to digest no it's a cover it's a cover for the raptors or reptilians excuse me to take 40 percent of a hundred thousand so 40 thousand yeah people off planet to fuck and eat yeah okay this is that seems like that seems like a lot of work it's frustrating that seems like a lot of work right considering they could just i don't know whatever

they do all the time aren't they doing this all the time like in wars and anytime anytime there's like an earthquake isn't that cover for aliens taking people to fucking eat yeah you know you don't need to you go look you know you sometimes you order the same meal at a bunch of different restaurants you go for the atmosphere you know sometimes you need to get that food in a different way you know like maybe this is their version going to a tiki themed hut sure sometimes you order out sometimes you want to walk to the store to pick it up you know it's different moods yeah that's very stupid so it turns out there's a lot going on and what it has to do with on a grander level is aliens taking over the planet and i started to hear a lot of things

that are very similar to when alex talks about what's at the bottom of the rabbit hole sure when he starts talking about the evil demonic spirits that are behind the globalists right which are totally real and they are spirits and they are not aliens dan aliens are silly well it seems to me that there's a lot of similarities between the way that kerry talks about the drako and the reptilian sure and alex talks about the demons that are behind the globalists right we are fighting a battle here on planet earth against their interference here on the planet as well as their plans to terraform this planet so none of this is really actually all that new the added element of course of 5g has escalated this the symptoms and the situation because it's

attracting too much oxygen the rollout of chemtrails the the implantation implantation of nano in the chemtrails and in our bodies his is all part of the agenda the push to make a transhuman agenda and also change the environment here on planet earth to to make it a more methane like environment all of this has been covered by project camalot in my interviews in my presentations for many years the transhumanist agenda is something that alex talks about a whole lot as being a way to make a world where these demonic forces can i don't know yeah if she dragged dragged drag queen story hour into this it'd be like oh we just got bingo sure you nailed it yeah and with the terraforming the planet alex talks all the time about how we're actually carbon starved

and we're trying the globalists are trying to change the environment so he whenever he gets really like grasping he'll pull out childhoods end and how the the aliens and childhoods end needed to create yeah the environment in a different way for them to be able to exist like course this is all very similar to like just pulling things from probably the same sci-fi sources yeah and just packaging them in different ways in order to either push a paranormal conspiracy world or a political conspiracy world and i think people should recognize that when they're being conned by alex it might as well be buying into kerry's shit because it's the same level of reasonability yeah we said it last we said it one recently it's just like the only difference between those is your

flavor of sci-fi source material yep and it just goes on i mean the similarities are are very clear so reptilians and draco are assisting china with their population reduction plans according to mark china doesn't need help from the west to eliminate population and they are perfectly capable of doing this on their own so anyone who thinks that china is a victim in this scenario is wrong boo i mean taking aside that kind of callous and shitty perspective um the you replace draco and reptilian with globalists there at the beginning the same thing the sentence the globalists are helping china with population reduction there you go very easily comes out of alex's mouth very easily yep it's all the same shit yep so um kerry will tell you that some opportunists

are out there and they're trying to use the coronavirus for their own purposes maybe to get more attention to your videos that are monetized on youtube or maybe to sell food bucket sure sure that's not what she's talking something wild that's not what she's talking about something unreasonable it's other sorts of opportunists there are opportunists out there that are taking advantage of this rollout of obviously this and uh and and and more uh are basically using the weaponized and mutation of it to uh to attack their own people uh it is no coincidence that the highest rates of cv are also showing up around the world in places where 5g has been installed there's a problem with this argument that kerry is making and that's that it's not really possible

to trace a one-to-one relationship between coronavirus cases and availability of 5g coverage one glaring example of this is uh that there's a particularly bad outbreak in iran according to press tv there is no 5g program in iran as of february 13th 2020 but there are plans in place to begin launching one in the coming persian calendar year which just began this month so that kind of doesn't make sense for kerry's argument south korea is another country with a ton of cases of coronavirus but this too is an interesting study for the 5g argument the largest number of cases are in the area of degu which it does have 5g coverage but the capital sol uh also has a very robust 5g network in place and has relatively few cases of the virus there doesn't seem to be uh to

to be a determinative factor here and given the kinds of data points you see it seems far more likely that there's something else another variable at play the kerry is ignoring in order to push her 5g conspiracy paranoia it makes perfect sense okay iran is trying to roll out this 5g technology and then there's it's like an oil spill you know some of the 5g got out before they were ready for it and so that's why there's so many cases same thing and sol it's just contained better whereas degu they have a terrible 5g containment system getting all that oxygen going around everybody screwed similarly italy has had a lot of cases of the virus sorry my bad but they only have partial 5g coverage in select cities in 2019 they launched 5g in malon turin and balonia

which are all cities that have had some relevant coronavirus activity but the problem is they also launched 5g in rom and naples which have seen relatively very little virus activity the next country with the most cases is germany and there is currently no 5g network in germany there may be a few stray antennas around the country that are experimenting with implementation but there's nothing you would call 5g coverage there are currently wireless companies making bids to build out and according to an article in january from dutch a well the whole thing is in its infancy a rep for telefonica germany was quoted as saying quote by the end of 2021 the company wants to offer 5g in the five largest german cities and by 2022 it wants to expand to

the 30 biggest cities all right well we know exactly when germany is going to fall so the next hardest hit country is france and they too are in the earliest stages of 5g deployment it's easy to see china and south korea being hit very hard by this outbreak and say those countries are on the forefront of 5g so these things must be connected but that kind of thinking requires completely ignoring a ton of other variables and factors which is kind of the project camelot specialty yeah when you look at the actual country like it's all good and well and fun to say the countries that are hit the most are the ones that rolled out 5g it's just it doesn't match the reality so you're wrong that's just wrong they're not good with nuance or variable

like it's the same way that she described it feels good yeah well it's the same way that she described like in that bullshit callous awful clip where she's like oh well the chinese have no problem killing themselves so they're not victims here and it's like at no point in time does she accept that there's a difference between chinese people like chinese people are people like it she treats them the same way that she treats the alien races of like all draco do this so that means in the same way all chinese people do this and it's not just their leadership killing them or whatever it's them all doing it to themselves yeah that's the essentialist argument that or not argument perspective that she has about classes yeah of folk and it's fucked up yeah it's it's very weird

and unfortunate and dumb yeah so to get back to more alex jones connections in this next clip she discusses how humans are play there's a plan in place that's moving forward to make humans part a i okay which is something that alex talks about a lot i'm cool at any rate we talked about that humans are slated to become partially a i a transhumanist species at this time although mark feels that the transhumanist agenda will not be allowed to happen because he believes there's enough military men like himself that are against it uh and there's the biggest issue is they cannot tell exactly when we move from being a i uh or from being human to being a i and there's there a difference at which you become more a i than you become human obviously

this is a philosophical argument that i'm not positive uh she and mark had i i think i got this one um i mean the the humans are slated to become part a i but it's probably not gonna work because there's a human resistance within the military is classic alex oh yeah that is very very very alex it's it's gonna be a counter coup that they need to get the coup taken care of and that's how we're gonna get rid of five g or partial a i or whatever it is you like something yeah yeah yeah so uh turns out dracos bad news bad news yes those dracos no good they're fighting the raptors in space right and it turns out that a lot of the things that happen on earth are actually part of that battle so he said that there's a draco battle in the iran galaxy and a lot of what has been

happening on earth has to do with that battle uh in that battle battle the draco are fighting with the raptors and the raptors are have recruited one million humans who are fighting with them against the draco at the same time the draco and reptilians the reptilians report to the draco are working with china in order to distract the raptors here on earth and occupy them and and to take their attention away from here on earth and and to get them to fight in this battle in in the iran galaxy and so that they can take over earth so it's a takeover scenario this is a kind of battle going on between what we call good and evil but it's it's it's really a transhumanist agenda in the end hey carry i gotta go oh man i gotta go oh boy yeah i hear stuff like that i was

like okay i like i like the nothing i can do with that just uh gonna let you put that out there i love the needs i love whenever they have specific needs you know like of course the raptors need one million humans right the exact number it's like a child yeah it's no it's dr evil it's that kind of shit like you do how you don't know how many people are a lot of people also i feel like this plan is self contradictory so there's a pre existing war between the dracos and the raptors that is in space can you please take note i will take those i am i'm gonna try and walk through this i'm gonna get my partial a i a speed on this one yep so drako drako fighting raptors in space always battle of good and evil so the drako are coming to earth and using the

chinese in order to distract the raptors right because they want to distract them from the battle in space right it's a faint right in order to lure the raptor forces here so they can have success in space yes but then she says that it's a plan to take over earth but it seems like earth is really the distraction for the orion space battle right what is actually going on here uh okay so earth seems to not be important but then ultimately it seems like she's saying that it it's the ultimate goal well i i mean i think it's a lot like uh it's a lot like how in in like world war two you would see bases go back and forth you would see that like one like the germans would take over this space but what it was was a faint to get the french over there and then they retreat

from that base and then go take over another one and that's why they were enlisted right to fight with the raptors but that they were so good at planning dad but jordan that base that they used as a fat was not important no that's earth yes i think that means that we're not important in this scenario but still carry has to make us the most important because we're crucial it's narcissism we're either bait or we're the heroes one of the two can't really be both so anyway we get back to similarities with alex and i just all i hear whenever i listen to this now is just such a uh a stark uh contact a contact between the evil force behind the globalist and the drago right it's almost one to one there is a relationship between the drago

and reptilians and the grace who report to them as well as what's called they are kind of put packaged together in a terminology called the luciferian alliance oh of course feed on humans and obviously you know our blood so they drink our blood obviously and they're luciferian there's the satanism that's behind the globalists all exactly the same shit so there's a race that used to be around called the onanaki and they were a humanoid species right and now they're helping with the bad guys which makes them the globalists oh so the onanaki are helping the drago yes okay okay i got you which makes them the globalists in this scenario the humans that are doing the bidding or the humanoid or whatever they're doing the bidding of the drago evil right force okay it's

also significant that as i've said before that the onanaki were taken over also by this reptilian agenda and by the drago and so what you have at this time is a drago uh onanaki hybrid race and this is often where uh onanaki are considered or thought to be reptilian when in reality they are a humanoid species that were taken over by the drago many eons ago and the drago are helping china to obtain their goal of eliminating a certain portion of their population at this time sure so there is a sense that we have invaders at the gates always always always invaders so you've got the onanaki who are humanoids who are doing the bidding of the drago's and they're helping china sure it's all it's all the same i i do i do see like here's what i see going on with this is is

like when the protocols of the elders of zion were was written uh there was a committee there and they were all pitching ideas for what it was they were doing and one guy was just like hey i i know we're talking about jews but what if it was aliens and they were like get this guy the fuck out of here and he was like i'm gonna start my own group and that was david ike's grandfather exactly and here we are right yeah yeah so we'll get back to some of this weird shit um but it has to be interrupted by a claim that i just can't imagine is true okay there's also i just want to highlight i used to work as a contractor in the media the area media at jpl jet propulsion lab and there's a very old-fashioned phone system that i became aware of and that they

keep operational and obviously this is analog and basically i guess in the event of an a i takeover i don't think i believe kary worked even as a contractor for the jet propulsion laboratory since 1958 jpl has been owned and operated by nasa so at any point that she could have possibly been there she would have been employed by nasa i find this difficult to believe but then again a lot of really strange contract employment does happen you know it's not it's not impossible to me but i find this weird yeah i don't like it i don't like it i don't i don't buy it i don't buy it but that does have the sound of like such a tossed-off fact that there's something behind it i i feel like it would come up a lot more in the past oh that's true but another reason i find this hard

to believe is that jpl offers a ton of fellowships and internships for students looking to build up their resumes given that it's actually also part of the california institute of technology i would assume that whatever media contract work they would have uh like hired kary for could have easily been handled by a caltech student that i have no idea i'd be interested to know more about her supposed entry in in this resume even if she did contract there for a bit i have no reason to believe that it gave her access to any inside information for instance that little bit of trivia about the phone she could have easily gotten that from a tour of the facility which are offered to folks who make reservations or for one of what they used to hold open houses on a regular

basis oh maybe she means she gave tours no i doubt it okay if she like if what she's saying about them using an old phone system is even accurate there are other explanations for what that why that would be the case like she's arguing that it's because of an ai takeover that they're afraid of but what about the idea that like there might be areas of the lab that are engaged in very precise measurements that could be thrown off by electronic signatures from mobile phones or wireless signals i have no idea if that is the case but off the top of my head it's a possible explanation for why a super high tech lab might rely on low tech strategies for phones direct line to batman obviously it's uh it's completely conceivable yeah the direct line to batman no

oh damn now we get into a weird theory okay this ends up being a rationalization for why trump is closing the border or wants to close the border and we've heard we've heard her talk about this before like this is not a completely fresh thought that she has but it's fleshed out in a way that is a little bit um more full than we've heard in the past okay so the gray human hybrid program people had wanted me to ask mark more about this so i did talk to him about it obviously their government has made a deal with grace obviously having to do with an exchange of technology this goes back to the days of eisenhower and is very well known of course by people in our sector roswell now there was a deal also made to get them to stop abducting us citizens and to focus on

south of the border that indeed is what happened the grays have been much more active abducting individuals in latin and south america as a result over the past 60 years and this is really why trump wants to close the border it has to do with uh those hybrids coming of age so those are gray human hybrids and that was a very successful program on the part of the grays and a lot of those individuals want to come back and come to the united states and this is creating kind of an x-men scenario having to do with a population that's hard to control all this is is creating a narrative where it becomes emotionally acceptable for you to accept brutal policing on uh the vulnerable populations that are coming up from south of the border oh boy that is all just an outrageous fantasy

version of why like yeah of course we should put people in cages of course i mean kill them if you need to they're super power they're super powered do you understand like this could be a cyclops with no mask situation very easily if we allow it to be oh man what if what if one of them is able to explode what a what a what do we do then i i i just don't know i mean you know i i think a lot of genocides were x-men based honestly i think personally that's why genocides tend to occur yeah there's just too many goddamn x-men out there yeah every time they they pop up we got a genocidem this is all just to create emotional distance between people that are unlike yourself yeah that's shitty fucked up it's really really yeah and i'd like to say this i understood that according to

paranormal lore uh eisenhower signed a contract with aliens to you know that has to do with abductions it's yeah i understand that that is a part of the canon you didn't realize it was foreign policy based i didn't realize that he sold out like the people in central south america and if so i would like to say i don't like i don't like i i do not like i that's really shitty that's that's really that's for american foreign policy in a nutshell isn't it hey look great we just don't want a problem on our board great we just don't want it in our house we go fuck with them that's horrible he made a treaty with them how can you make a treaty with them for another nation to be ransacked like aren't we really that's not even a treaty aren't isn't he just being like hey

look at those guys over there why don't you do those guys right that's bad that's real bad that's bad negotiation right on his part and also carry is being very racist yeah yeah quite frankly that's all that really boils down to it's just a rationalization and i mean it's i guess it's probably more fun to tell yourself that that's like what you're afraid of yeah yeah probably well hey hey it's cowardly it's not people who have different skin than me i'm not worried about them it's that they're x-men it's that it's that dan it's obvious i'm not a racist but look the problem is that there's going to be an invasion at the border and it might not be immigrants from the uh the south uh and we know that this is going to happen

and kerry explains why okay she has it on really good authority all right there is also still the risk of the chinese infiltration through our border and underground of that border and i've actually had a very significant dream that i certainly hope doesn't come true that it does involve chinese invading through that border no i didn't know you had a dream well that's uh i mean now that now that i've got dream behind me i i there's just nothing i we do know that she's psychic so that's true we who this is not good china's gonna invade with x-men i think one thing that concerns me she's on trump side yeah does she not know who the bad guy in x-men was um she the american government right but that's that's how they're about prejudice but that's how the

movie got made you understand it's it's pro x-men propaganda right from the chinese exactly you know what i retract my criticism this is this goes back to alex she's on the side of the bad guy in every movie yeah no doubt this is insane also important point yeah i don't know what superpowers are being created down there but every single x-men movie i've ever seen every single x-man and woman yeah can handle a wall that's not true that's not true there's that one guy who the guy who was kept in in that little room in x-men the last stand the one who cured other mutants of their mutinous magneto no no no magneto fucks up walls left and right i don't nobody has ever treated walls fine

90 percent of x-men characters would have no problem with a wall night crawler can crawl right over it most of them can fly you can teleport through yeah people can walk through walls right or i don't know you get juggernaut to just run through right right problem uh is solved for the x-bed but then you reveal yourself to the greater population so it makes more sense to just equies to your horrific treatments i don't you know like how the x-men did okay still gonna have a problem with the teleporters well they're working for the drago man if you can teleport you get you get lieutenant colonel status i love the idea that you're trying to create this exaggerated threat and your solution is a fucking wall yeah that's gonna build the wall build the wall right we got

super humans well i can't handle a wall no matter what everyone she likes is incompetent any story fucking humans can climb these walls that were built non super powered people dumb that's very dumb anyway you were touching on some of the let's call it subtle racism are we calling it subtle well compared to this next clip what she said earlier was subtle okay this not so subtle also involves her believing that the movie logan is real okay we we have it's a great movie before it's a great movie she has said that it's real before so that part not shocking although the book comes after it very racist again the grace report to the reps who report to the drago there's an important story that's this sort of story i'm talking about

has to do with an x-men movie called logan which i highly recommend if you haven't seen it great move and uh latinos and south americans are closer to as a what you call a root race they're closer to the root race and therefore they are a better genetic sort of basis or more fertile ground for for the invasion of the gray genetics and and they you know when you do hybridization it is known you need a very sturdy root stock and so this is is why they they concentrated in that area and you need meaning strong enough to handle without dying the gray dna so that's that's really what's going on there wow you know what this is a proof of how equal our society is now you know really in the in the

early 1800s in the early 1800s this is the type of shit that doctors would say about women and now here we are a woman is strong enough to paint an entire race of people with one big broad brush like we've always dreamt of dad sure it's equality this racist bullshit is equality okay jesus christ i mean you could you could kind of make the argument that closer to the root race that phrasing might be equivalent to unevolved um there might be a certain i can't even get it like this is i don't know what that means comically offensive yeah i don't know how you can i don't know how you can say that out loud and be like no no i'm not being racist because it's i'm actually being complementary if anything else they're genetics are so good

they're so much better than ours because this classification of people is different than white people yeah they are not as far along the path which makes them easier for aliens to hybridize yep obviously the aliens don't want white people dan our genes will just fall apart at the drop of the hat have you seen us on a beach we get all burnt and well it's we we've become too human this is i i really just don't understand people who insist they understand anything about genetics while at the same time looking at somebody thinking skin color means genes are completely different right like oh well you're you know your skin is different color than mine so obviously you're from a completely different root race stock yeah

jesus christ yep not good not good not good very racist glad that she watched logan yeah yeah this is a good movie so turns out mark had a option that he faced in his life and that was the possibility to become more than human himself mark richards was have offered a raptor enhancement and it's a piece of raptor a brain that would would would have been merged with his own but he didn't get a tail because he did not want to become part raptor raptors have brains in their tails right even though he works very closely with the raptors and they are on working on the side of humanity at this time i don't like the at this time and these are yes the

velociraptors that steven spielberg depicts in the Jurassic you know world and the Jurassic movies she says that actually is exacerbated by constantly getting the question yes this is the same velociraptors i mean and they don't have they don't have feathers so don't even get me started on that shit that could settle a whole big thing ask mark richards about the feathers i've never heard him chime in on that that's a good point yeah that's a good point that would really settle that for once and for all i would solve it for me feathers and no feathers yeah i need to know i need to know um yeah so i guess i mean like hey i respect anyone's decision whether or not to become part raptor um but it seems weird well yeah he would have been disqualified

from the olympics he was also with the raptor princess though and he won't even become part raptor boo sir so we get now to the question of the 2020 election here and uh mark and carry have some great thoughts interesting analysis the mark thinks that trump will win which i think a lot of people are concerned about right so regarding trump and another term he does believe that trump will have another term uh he says the people running the democratic side uh those running are hopeless and iowa caucus was proof that the whole thing will be controlled uh that they are not going to allow any of those running to succeed of course our our elections have been controlled for time you know forever especially since the uh kennedy assassination so from then on uh you

can be guaranteed that we have not had free elections wilson not alien control no certainly not no no no no he was too racist even for them but he did bring in the federal reserve which you would think or draco would be into according to the transitive property that i've built between the globalists of the draco uh yeah cool all right astute i'm telling you mark is not bringing it today this is a lazy take i will say the democratic party sucks good call mark i will i will say that from my experience of watching it i did also feel like there's a much less mark in this than normal there's a lot of carries views he was bored and he i think i might have needed to flesh it out a little yeah so we get now to talking about trump and like look listen to this and tell

me this isn't just exactly alex however what happened with trump and i've talked about this many times has been a hack hacking back from the hillary side that was a hack attack to begin with of the election so that's how um trump came in power being backed by a certain portion of the military oh being backed by a certain portion of the military hacking back counter counter i would say it's a counter hack oh yeah yeah yep this narrative runs through of many different communities they're all convinced of this idea that all elections are controlled but trump isn't because he's working with the good guys in the mysterious secret space program deep state whatever the fuck in a counter coup against the coup that hillary was running it's all it's universal yeah

it's weird so now we go back to nixon that's something that i was expecting you to say huh the nixon uh he had a very particular job in the eisenhower administration okay he handled the aliens yes he did of course he did and why didn't i assume that who why was that tape turned off dan we talked about the cuban missile crisis again because i wanted to get some clarification on the information we had gotten in the past from mark regarding that and nixon's role etc and nixon obviously never got over it um and people are recommended to see the book by ashton gray watergate the hoax i will not and nixon had handled the et situation for eisenhower and was read in nixon was taken down through mind control and an operation orchestrated by these usual suspects

as i call them jordan what's the glaring problem in this timeline oh god the cuban missile crisis happened in october 1962 at which point nixon was not in office nor was eisenhower that was jfk yep he was busy nixon was he was running for the governor of california at that point well he was still working with kennedy handling his aliens he was not no i don't know i know they ran against each other i understand that i know jfk one and nixon was absolutely furious with that but when you get a chance to handle the aliens for the president of the united states but he didn't you got to do it and he wasn't right so those are two big stumbling blocks so jfk was in office nixon wasn't right and the cuban missile crisis happened

and somehow nixon couldn't get over that right and then would become president years later yes and then was impeached because of mind control right this doesn't make sense i i i wrote down the question is she a nixon fan and she answered it in that clip she's a nixon apologist at least she's they always support the bad guy does they do they just not know when a bad guy is a bad guy well this is actually like not super consistent a lot of the folks who are in the alex jonesy side of the right wing and alex prior to the more recent history right were pretty not into nixon nixon was not somebody who they considered right like someone in the goldwater vein right of anti-communist conservative well and he helped to open relations with china which as we know now is

a bad thing yeah yeah okay but alex is a little bit more muddy on that now because of being friends with roger stone yeah it's certainly makes it difficult when your best friend has a tattoo of nixon on his back it is it is difficult yeah so alex is complicated in that but a lot of the folks like if you go back to like the john birch society folks a lot of them were very not into nixon sure sure so it's carry's angle on it is very strange i'm not sure i've ever heard the he was brought down by mind control argument which i appreciate on some level novelty is good so you might ask why could nixon not get over the cuban missile crisis which he wasn't involved in i mean unless while he was running for governor of california yeah he was somehow involved in the

cuban missile crisis of course maybe she answers that and it turns out it's her explanation for literally fucking everything basically with regard to the crew cuban missile crisis which nixon never got over there were grays coming in interdimensionally that had to be stopped according to mark of course and they unleashed some very horrible stuff he said the grays were involved totally in that crisis that it was not about what people thought it was about in other words russian russian missiles etc that was a cover there's always a stargate going on everywhere there's aliens coming in and you just see it like oh yeah sure you think that it's uh you know brinksmanship between world superpower nope absolutely not it's aliens you know always

always always mark does not like immigrants so much he will rewrite history to always be about somebody coming into this country and how we need to stop them yeah yeah exactly he hates immigrants it's painfully consistent every time there is something you know like the first iraq war saddam hussein was trying to bring an aliens through a portal of course he was every single thing cuban missile crisis now it was aliens in a portal vietnam war spider beings coming in through a portal every single fucking time it's aliens in a portal and it turns out those fires in brazil aliens in a portal well i don't know about a portal but it's definitely about aliens okay he talked about the jungles in south american africa saying that the grays

considered jungles here on planet earth as dangerous and um now that's now that's what i was looking for from mark strange and different life forms so that they considered the south america a more friendly environment and the deforestation and the fires in the amazon is to make it more conducive for grace to live there mark just doesn't like bugs he's projecting all of his hatreds on to the grays well i agree is afraid of jungles i like an alias malaria they would be afraid of cities too then because to them everything is for well it's an urban jungle if they prefer planes dad temperate planes they want to live in iowa if gray aliens are afraid of jungles because of their being a bunch of things there right they're afraid of everything right

every they would be afraid of humans they would be afraid of cows this is exhausting no no it's like it's like it's like world the worlds look the aliens weren't afraid of us but they should have been afraid of the cold see it's just like the grace i'm i grow weary of this the grace landed and what we need to do to stop them is either i guess kill them all or turn the entire earth into a jungle now see this is one of those interesting instances where the fantasy scenario actually kind of works towards the right goal because we need to re forest right she should the grace right she should be opposed to the deforestation and the burning of the forest because she's afraid that graze are trying to hang out without the bugs right but

in reality there is the business interests that are behind the deforestation and so we all should be opposed to the amazon disappearing including her right and if this isn't this is an instance of like if that's how you get there that's how you get there we're in a crisis i'm not going to argue with you we'll deal with that later we'll deal with it later yeah yeah yeah but other instances not so much i cannot agree with the conclusions but that's one i'll just go ahead and be like all right fair enough i i do appreciate knowing that i am part of the human race which is not responsible for anything ever in our entire it's all aliens and portals man it has always been aliens and portals yep and the carry i think on our last time we talked about her she she revealed

her lackadaisical lackluster superpower which is her hand she can douse she can sort of tell you where portals might be she's a little bit of a dowser we get an expression of this superpower this next clue right uh so there is also information that i gave to mark because we when we i come to visit mark i stay in san francisco and actually kind of playing the tourist for the day before and in this case we stayed on fishermen's wharf fishermen's wharf in san francisco has become highly dangerous late at night no it's very near the procedure and i was basically bringing that to mark's attention because it is possible that there is a portal there that has been reopened don't talk oh no fishermen's wharf is basically the biggest tourist center

in san francisco everything there is just like super tourist centric i've been there a bunch of time since my grandma lived in the bay area and uh one thing i will say is uh that's kind of working in carry's favor here there is that fisherman's wharf does house the original gear deli chocolate plant oh so if there's going to be raptors anywhere that is obviously where they're going to be dan you have cracked the case right i've done it all at fisherman's wharf man i've been to the chocolate factory i've gone to the cable car museum i've gone to pier 39 and i've never seen an alien last year did see a slight uptick in violent crime in the neighborhood however with the man being murdered there in march 2019 and there have been some robberies that have been reported

the murder does appear to have been a fight between people who at least were kind of acquainted with each other it's very weird uh the details you're able to find about that and you know some robberies are going to take place in any area where there's a high concentration of people so it's not you know it's obviously not good but you don't you should i don't think you should look at the the robberies and be like oh my god everything's deteriorating probably a portal yeah last month a group of eight women attacked a 16 year old starbucks employee with a golf club and stole her watch and phone in a completely bizarre crime despite this i can find no indication of fisherman's worth being any more or less dangerous than any big city tourist area after dark if i had to guess

i'm betting the carry saw a high proportion of hispanic people walking around because she knows they're closer to the root race yep and thus more likely to be alien hybrids she got freaked out you nailed it that's kind of my suspicion that was she just like summed up white flight in two seconds right she was like well it's probably a portal it's dangerous after dark now you know right yeah so uh also we get uh from mark an explanation of the uh assassination of kassam sulamani oh um i was wondering why that happened wow turns out regarding the death of salamany he said he was trying to access the gates between iran and iraq and give access to certain beings who wanted to come into this dimension uh the real this is the real reason he had to die he basically wanted to

rule iran and to let those beings in just as saddam hussein who was deposed prior to that for the same reason that saddam was letting in on a knocking in certain beings that uh simply wasn't going to be allowed it's all portals man mark does not know who sulamani was i'm guessing he was bluffing around yeah yeah he has no idea i think the mark is not very creative on one level i mean some of the alien races and their particular picadillos like the antiquing with raptors and the archaeology with cats yeah like because i think some of that's pretty fucking hilarious because like obviously the cat one is because of litter boxes yeah like i dig it around for artifacts yeah i think there's some fun creativity there but he's not very creative when it comes

to geopolitical explanations or things everything is aliens coming through a portal kassam sulamani is assassinated it's like wow that's weird why would trump do something like that and it's like well of course he was trying to create a portal to let aliens in in the iraq iran thing and it wasn't a petulant man baby lashing out and we all know that that's a reasonable valid argument to make because that's what happened with saddam hussein too all of this is portal shit this is yeah yeah absolutely it's very exhausting oh man so now we get an update on another figure in the world of project amelot that is shawn david morten who is the scammer who defrauded a bunch of people who just pay his taxes and went to prison yeah apparently he's not having a good time in prison

shawn david morten regarding his book sands of time series and the fact that shawn is being tortured in prison he's in the uh in texas now he's been moved to a texas prison and he has been as i say tortured i don't believe this but just to be fair i'm gonna say if he is being tortured i'm wholeheartedly and unqualifiedly against that yeah i don't believe this though but if it is please file a report with like the human rights people i agree absolutely don't don't just try and do whatever you're doing on your youtube channel get it out get it out to it's a it's a big it's a big problem torture is not that big of a problem to these people i i guess it seems like it's just part of the part of the game you know it's very strange you're gonna be tortured i think

that like it's it trivializes the idea of someone actually being tortured it absolutely does you should be contacting the un or something like if you're if you actually have some evidence that your scam friend is being tortured in prison but there's a reason and mark explains why the shawn is getting this treatment and i talked to mark about why shawn was being tortured and he says they may eventually try to kill him obviously they're trying to get at the witness the testimony that was given to shawn by his lawyer through this other lawyer of an individual who ran area 51 and s4 uh and that's why i shouldn't pay him a time traveler after that and i guess uh that that individual is trying to disclose information through shawn's books

doing a very good job of it mark agrees so you've got a situation where there's a guy who used to run area 51 and then became a time traveler and he's giving this information that shawn david morten uses to write his sands of time book right so shawn's been arrested for his rampant crimes well and now he's being tortured in prison and mark believes that it's because they're trying to get at this whistleblower guy who's the source for the sands of time books and did he become a time traveler after there's a problem or before there's a there's a problem with this theory and that is uh that uh let me read to you from the introduction of the first sands of time book sure sure sure quote many years ago a powerful mysterious man approached the author he had lived virtually

all his life as a top director and high-level scientist involved in the above top secret black world of shadow government projects and research right he said he admired the service of the author in his undaunted quest to bring the truth to light and began a feed of crucial inside information to be released to the public he's a hero when certain circumstances presented themselves he wanted to get the truth out to the world before it was too late as our planet was he said in grave danger but he could only tell the whole story after he had moved on to use his exact words the government doesn't need to torture shawn to get his whistleblower uh because shawn's own narrative according to that that he's dead yeah he could only get the information after the dude

was dead because shawn only got this from his estate when it was being sorted out after he died right like i understand that you could be like i have to be moved on means he time traveled or something sure but he died according to shawn's narrative dude's dead according to shawn himself yes the dude is dead the introduction of his book you can't change the story now internal consistency is pretty important when you're just making up conspiracy bullshit you this fails that test you would think yeah so anyway mark believes something that's going on here mark said that he read actually sands of time and that they contain some striking truths and uh basically they may be trying to persuade shawn to discredit himself before they will they will release him

if that's the case he should be out already because mission accomplished yeah i let him go that dude's discredited yeah if that's your goal yeah get on out of here before he went into prison get on out of here come on buddy you're discrediting you yeah so we have one last clip mic down for this because it uh it hit you with some whiplash okay it uh it starts with a sort of standard complaint of the paranormal conspiracy world and then a nonsensical thing to end on the problem with humans is that they're not waking up fast enough according to mark and he says that they are going to be dupes for what's coming down in the future if they don't wake up and lastly uh regarding trump's family mark says he believes the women in

trump's family are not human so and that was basically i think that's my last slide yes and and so that is uh that's it for the mark richards total recall okay no further comments nope i don't believe they're human and that's all i'll say on the matter people aren't waking up fast enough you're all are going to be dupes in the future also the women in trump's family are aliens not human not human good night no no no judgment value no no like they're good aliens bad aliens they're draco they're not they're just not human well we know that kerry has previously said that she believes or she's been told or mark maybe even said that melania is a conduit by which aliens communicate with uh trump right right but but mark wouldn't tell her what species of alien

is contacting her which is not good yeah now we don't even get any implication of uh mark clearly didn't tell her what aliens uh avanka apparently it's not important avanka and does this mean that melania is an alien yes and trump wait but uvanka isn't melania's daughter nope trump has been trump has been fucking aliens since the beginning does this mean avana is an alien this means that every woman in trump's family is an alien it's tiffany an alien maybe why isn't trump an alien then or is trump's mom an alien i don't know oh man we got to find this out oh this is uh this is big news this is a case that i am not going to crack no you got to get to the bottom of this one dead all right fuck it monday i'm not going back to alex i'm going to get to the bottom

of this trump family women are aliens i'm looking forward to the dollop episode on avanka that'll be that'll be serious this must mean baron's got to be an alien too then right because baron is melania's kid well baron's half alien but i thought it was just the women aren't human i don't i don't i realize i don't care uh yeah you know you would think that right so we come to the end of this and i think uh there's some fun stupidity and fun nonsense here and i'm i've enjoyed taking this little dally right up before we get down to on our next episode just getting right back down to business uh for monday on the alex jones present day stuff but i think even though we try and take these breaks and we try and look at these completely non real world things

and you just see these shocking overlaps these parallels between the what underpins her world and what underpins alex and it's uh i mean if if you don't see the similarities between the two and the ways in which they sort of guide you towards similar bad conclusions yeah um then i don't know i don't know what to tell you i just i i think she thinks it's a good thing but this entire episode seems like she is completely dehumanizing everything like just people who are dealing with the coronavirus not real people in south america eisenhower sold them all out people in the amazon are being affected by the fires of devar station yeah yeah none of that none of that matters no people matter none of these nobody is a player in the game the chinese

aren't players in the game it's all the draco in their right and reptilian buddies like it nobody is a person i think even like the the larger thing that is that the the way that these things work is that there are stories that are being told in order for you to not have to feel yeah for the people who are affected in these circumstances absolutely there is a narrative that's being spun that's almost like an emotional weighted blanket that'll comfort you instead of having to look at the fact that no there are a lot of things that are going on that that we should be doing more about and for some reason we're either derelict in our duties or we're just not able to deal with some things yeah that are hurting people it's really hard to know that the government is

purposely trying to deny water to immigrants coming into the united states undocumented and in order to kill them as a deterrent for more people coming in there right that's so fucked up that's very tough but but what if they were x men exactly that's still fucked up well you and i you and i in a situation where x men are real probably would feel that way yeah it's fucked up but it helps carry not to feel those very conflicted and and hard emotions and i guess if you need that crutch it's fine but no it's not it's very much not certainly not no that's fucked up right and rendall shim didn't happen no it was a lighthouse and mark richards has some very middle of the road political takes yes he's really got nothing he doesn't have any

heat there man he's a he's a boring hack now i just think he had an off day yeah happens that could be twelfth interview slump that could be anyway we'll be back on monday with a normal episode but thank you for joining us for this abnormal one until we're back we have a website we do it's knowledge fight dot com right we're also on twitter we are on twitter is that knowledge underscore fight and i go to bet jordan uh-huh we're on facebook we are on facebook if you'd like to on the show please go to itunes download it leave a review rate and share it donate do the whole thing it'd be great yep we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i'm the ghost of rendall shim andy and chanzis you're on the air thanks for holding so alexa my first

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