Knowledge Fight - #406: March 1-4, 2020

Episode Date: March 9, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan take a look at the beginning of last week on the Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex's coronavirus narrative shifts considerably, Alex desperately tries to start a fight w...ith Sebastian Gorka, and a disproportionate amount of time is spent mocking Bloomberg's eating habits. [CW: At approximately 3:05:00, Alex and a guest discuss BPD and self-harm in a very gross way.]

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Starting point is 00:00:48 You're on the air. Thanks for holding us. Hello Alex. I'm a assistant color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. Knowledge fight. No, no, no, no, no, no, knowledgefight.com. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're couple dudes like sit around to acknowledge the beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed we are Dan Jordan, Dan Jordan. Let me ask you a quick question. What up? Have you ever
Starting point is 00:01:10 been late because of daylight savings time, Dan? Um, yeah, I'm sure I have, but I nothing in specific. It absolutely doesn't stick out in my head because you're late all the time. Many times I was tardy to various employments that I had. So it was not super out of the year asking me this because we were texting before the show. Uh, and I told you I had no idea. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. I was thinking that and I was like, this must happen every year. I texted you like, yeah, so how about, uh, how about 11? Yeah. And I thought it was 9 30 right of course in the morning and it was actually 10 30. Like, oh, I was sitting there. No idea what time it was. You
Starting point is 00:01:51 were like, let's do 11 and it was 10 17. I haven't even showered yet. No, we're not doing fucking 11. Yeah. No, I don't know. I don't, uh, I guess like when I worked in an office, I was obviously so much more aware of it because everybody sure, sure, sure, sure. It's all going around. And then in the past, like this is probably the first time I've been caught completely unaware. Like in the, yeah, all these other daylight savings time instances, I've just seen tons of dumb jokes on Twitter. This is the first time I didn't see anything. There's a little bit more going on. Maybe I could be right. Everybody's like spring forward. Fuck that. Let's get Joe Biden. I've been really busy too with
Starting point is 00:02:30 a preparation for this episode too. So it's been a pretty crunch time kind of stuff. So I haven't had a lot of time to dick around and maybe find those bad jokes on Twitter. I don't know. But anyway, I'm, I'm on, I'm still on a old daylight savings time. So we'll make this work. We'll catch up. I'm still writing 2019 on my chest. So right June on your checks. So Jordan, this is by guys. We don't know much about being late because of daylight savings, but I do know a lot about Alex Jones and I don't know much about either. So today Jordan, we got an interesting episode to go over. We're covering the span of March 4th, March 1st to 4th 2020. I'm Dan. This is 2020 and it's going to be part one of
Starting point is 00:03:09 two kind of our Wednesday episode. We'll cover Thursday and Friday of last week. This is Sunday through Wednesday. All right. And we will cover the end of the week and I'll explain why there's a dichotomy. But before I get to that, before I get to that explanation, all right, we're going to take a moment to say thank you to folks who signed up in our sporting the show. So first read. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you. Read something. Alex doesn't do. Get out of here next. Richard. A policy. Wonk. I'm a policy. Wonk. That's Richard Rich next, Casey. Thank you so much, your now policy. Wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thanks Casey next, Casey. Next Tom from Bristol.
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Starting point is 00:04:30 Thank you so much. You're now a policy. Wonk. I'm a policy. Wonk. Thank you. The people's bayonet. Yeah. And finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who donated on an elevated level. We appreciate that very much. So first, Shay, thank you so much. You are now a technocrat and Chris with an OH. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy. Wonk. Crikey, mate. That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro? We got to go full tilt buggy on this Watson. All right. Let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin. Why are you pimp so good? My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you. Thank you so much. Shay and Chris. If
Starting point is 00:05:07 you're out there listening, you're thinking, Hey, I enjoy the show. I like what these jents do. I'd like to support the show. You can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button to support the show. We would appreciate it. Yes. That would be very helpful. Also very special. Thank you to LAR. Absolutely. Our, our very talented artist at Lardest. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. On Twitter at Lardest. Yeah. We got, we were talking about how I wanted an emotional support pelican based on Alex's contention that there are emotional support pelicans on airplanes because liberals are crazy. Did you get one? I did actually in the form of a cartoon and I sent it your way and you have turned it into a shirt
Starting point is 00:05:45 that people can now get if they would like over on. There's a button on our website, knowledgefight.com that says shirts. If you just go there, it'll direct you to the, the store where you can buy. There's that. There's the purple penguin shirt. Absolutely. There's the three of our three of our shirt designs are all LAR. Yeah. And he's incredible. Yes. Thank you very much. All very oblique. They've got crossover appeal, dad. That's that's the main thing. Yeah. Yeah. But thank you so much, LAR. And if you'd like that, please go enjoy. It's a great cranky looking pelican. It is. It is. The eye is haunting. Yes. Absolutely. So Jordan today, a lot of meat on the plate, a lot of stuff to get into. But before we
Starting point is 00:06:29 get down to business, we got to take a little moment to hear and have a context drop from today's show. Yeah. Why the hell are you talking about cheeseburgers here on here? Because I don't know what to do at this point. That's what I would do to. Yeah. That's that's the best decision. I think he's ever made. I would fuck around and listen. You know, I just start talking about cheeseburgers. I have no idea what to do. So March 1st is when Alex gets back from his vacation to CPAC where of course we covered his rally. That was embarrassing right a disaster. Right, but at least he didn't get Corona virus. So remains to be seen. I I know as we're recording this, that's still the developing story. There's still uncertainty
Starting point is 00:07:09 around any kind of exposure that might have happened with the one person at CPAC. Yeah, positive for Corona virus. So I have no idea. I I would not like to speculate because that's I don't know that feels. Oh yeah. No, not not going to bother with that. But Alex was there. He did his dumb rally. He did some other dumb stuff and he's back in studio. So this is the Sunday episode when he is returned. Right. And I was hoping that he would talk about the rally and he does not. No, of course not. It was a disaster. It does not come up at all. No, when he talks about going to CPAC, he claims that he was going to CPAC in order to gauge how strong the neocons were. Sure. It's like a fact finder. It's pretty ridiculous. It's a secret
Starting point is 00:07:57 investigation. Yeah. He was hired by Eric Prince to infiltrate CPAC. Yeah. So we're starting on the first and we'll get through the fourth and the reason that I cut it off there instead of going the whole week is one. The whole week would have been way too much to go over one sitting second on the fifth on Thursday. Alex shaved his head. So I saw I was unable to avoid that information. Right. Alex shaved his goddamn head on the show. No. Oh, damn it, but he has a bald ass head. So from the fifth onward, it's a new era of Alex. That's true. Bald Alex. So in essence, this episode is the last few days left right of Harry Alex. This is before Andre Agassi removed his wig. Right. So sort of like a B. C. A. D. Situations. We're
Starting point is 00:08:45 going through the last years of B. C. Anno Baldini, I believe. Yeah, absolutely. So we start here on the first and Alex. I guess he had some premonitions about some things. Well, my advice to President Trump is this. Beware the Ides of March. And I was thinking that yesterday afternoon when I was looking up at Leap Year Day, February 29th, and I sat back and I went, Beware the Ides of March. Because it's a leap. And I didn't watch Saturday Night Live last night. In fact, I went to bed pretty early after going to one of my friend's fiftieth birthday parties with my children. Happy birthday. But as I laid down in bed, I thought, Beware the Ides of March. And then I got up this morning. The video's up on Saturday Night Live and they're
Starting point is 00:09:38 making threats about Julius Caesar and the Ides of March coming after President Trump. All right, literally every year. I was going to say Alex ominously talks about the Ides of March. We're on year 20 of the Ides of March being an issue. The reason is because it's one of the few literate references he has that makes him sound smart and research to dumb people. Sure. Sure. Either that or he's super into late seventies horn rock. Oh yeah. I'm your vehicle baby. Get out of here. You want to get out of here. Nobody's into seventies horn. That song's really great. He's one of my big karaoke numbers. I think Alex wants you to think he's psychic and he's in touch with some larger thing in the universe because he thought about the Ides of March and
Starting point is 00:10:19 then the next morning he sees something reasonably close to that on SNL. So he must be reading the zeitgeist. I have a suspicion that Alex did watch SNL because he's really mirroring things really closely. Okay. He's upset about a joke in John Mulaney's intro set in Mulaney's bit. He talks about he sets up the joke by establishing that Caesar is where leap years started. So Alex, the leap year part is even gotcha. Was Mulaney hosting last night last week. Oh last week. From when we're recording. That's right. Now I remember where we are. Yes. Mulaney's whole joke is that leap years started under Caesar and another thing they did back then was all the senators stabbed Caesar because he was power mad. The tag to that joke is him saying that he called
Starting point is 00:11:00 his lawyer to see if he could say that joke and his lawyer called another lawyer who said it was cool. So there's a there's a layer to the joke. So all right. So what was the first lawyer thinking? I don't know. Got to call another lawyer. That's not good. However you slice it. Alex's interpretation of things is really unfair to characterize Mulaney's bit as a threat that they're coming after Trump Caesar style is just ridiculous. I'm not sure if that joke is great and I bet it probably could be improved with a couple more rounds of edits, but it's clearly a joke. Like if Nick depolo got on stage at SNL and started talking about how all the black people in the country need to go and started throwing around slurs. Alex would get on air the next day to defend that is free
Starting point is 00:11:40 speech 100 percent complain about how if depolo faces any consequences, it's proof of the authoritarian left. Absolutely destroying Americana trying to censor us, but a joke at the dear leaders expense. That's no longer a joke. That's a threat. Ignore the fact that it has all the characteristic structure of a joke. It was said on a comedy program and that people laughed and it was followed with the tag. That's no joke. My point is that Alex does not give a fuck about any notions of free speech. If he had the ability, he would probably try and put Mulaney in jail. Absolutely at two Mulaney. Yeah, exactly. So one of the primary preoccupations on this Sunday show is obviously coronavirus. Sure. Alex has gotten back into studio, having not been able
Starting point is 00:12:23 to cover it while Mike Adams and Alan keys were hosting while he was gone again, really struggling with that fact. Right. So now the situation as Alex sees it is that there's two camps in the world and one is saying that the virus is a hoax and it's not real. Right. It's all bullshit. Sure. And the other is saying that it's the end of humanity. Right. And I think there's a middle ground. Sure. Now I want to explain something. I know the listeners know this is why you tune in. You've seen the track record. My North Star is telling the truth. Is it? I don't ever hype something up unless I really think it's a great concern. What about that homeless guy with the chips out there and there shouldn't be
Starting point is 00:13:06 there's a camp saying that the virus is a total hoax and is no big deal. And as a total fraud and there's a camp saying it's the end of the world Armageddon. That's the communist Chinese that you went and others. No, that's your guy. Wait, wait. That's the communist literally Chinese and the because Mike Adams said it's over only be lone survivor. So he's communist Chinese globalist now like Adams is he does not. That's weird. Here's my problem with the two camps. Huh. He is in both of them simultaneously. That is something that's going to make things very confused. That is an issue. Right. So up till this point, Alex has been pretty extreme on the like everyone's going to die or at least at times. He's been
Starting point is 00:13:55 very much in the doom. You got to get my silver if you want to survive. Exactly. He's been really extreme on that note, but he's trying to walk that back now. There is a real sense that he's trying to make this a more real world propaganda narrative. Okay, and that is by focusing almost entirely on the idea of the supply chain disruption that will be caused by the coronavirus in China. Right. I said, I don't know how deadly this virus really is. I don't know how communicable it really is. But I said this is going to attack the world economy. This is an attack on President Trump. This is an attack on America. Sure. And so the supply chain attack is real. Whether the virus is deadly or not, you know, it's deadly, but super deadly. You can leave
Starting point is 00:14:52 up to debate, but the response and the hysteria and the way the media unified and the way all these governments around the world unified, except the United States, we did it first. And I was dead on. I'm sorry. It's just true. It's scary actually. It's why they want us off air saying, Mr. President, I'm not sure what's going on, but this is over a month ago, but you're endorsing G.G. Ping and this crackdown. Something big is happening here. So this is classic Alex right here. This is what we call a narrative pivot trying to be engaged in in real time because up to this point, he's had tons of interviews with like Francis Boyle and Mike Adams on almost every show. Mike Adams has been on talking about definitive proof that this virus is a
Starting point is 00:15:35 bio weapon. It's probably race specific. The Chinese either intentionally use it on themselves or they accidentally released it while planning to use it on us. It's been a gigantic fear orgy surrounding the idea that there are tens of thousands more dead than China has said and how it's already loose in the United States and coming for you like it's bit that's been largely the the editorial lie. Well, you are the supply chain, Dan, you're part of Alex. Yeah, exactly. That's the situation. That's the demand chain slightly different, but so I mean I won't sit here and deny that Alex has brought up about how the virus will throw off the economy and it's all an attack on Trump. Yes, everybody else been the primary driver
Starting point is 00:16:18 of his content. That has been something he said, but now it's the main thing. Yeah, and that to me is indicative of a shift. I feel a shift. I agree. So Alex talks about the CDC and how they're in on a conspiracy or something. Look at the CDC telling him it's no big deal and not a problem. He was finally getting it, but I went, but it's bigger than that. When it becomes a problem, then they're going to say he didn't respond properly to it and ladies and gentlemen, three days ago, it's like they flipped a light switch. Every radio show that's national, that's establishment, newspapers, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, all the usual suspects. I've got dozens of reports right here. You've all seen them. President Trump caused this. President Trump
Starting point is 00:17:08 didn't do enough. President Trump's trying to cover it up. I mean, yeah. And so conservatives who know Trump's under attack go, I don't believe CNN. I don't believe MSNBC. It must be a hoax. So they start asking us, Hey, what are you doing attacking the president? Because you're saying it's serious. Yes, I'm saying it's serious because of how the whole media is unified, how they use it for martial law in Italy and China and now all over the world, Switzerland, all over. Clearly this is a big global move. People better get ready. So the narrative, the plan that he's describing is that the CDC came out and they said, ah, it's no big deal. No, hey, whatever. Hey guys, be cool. Yeah, that was them in order to lull
Starting point is 00:18:00 Trump into not doing anything. Right. And then when it's bad, Trump looks the fool. I don't care. I hate these people. I hate them. I hate them. And then what Alex is describing there too, but the idea that CNN is writing articles about how Trump's response has been flawed, or there've been things that could have been done that weren't done. Right. You know, experts saying, what the hell? What the hell? Right. You know, those articles and then dum-dums who think that every article that's negative about Trump is an attack on him. Of course. I was like, well, this must not be true. Right. Right. Right. He's just describing an ecosystem of bullshit. Well, just bad thinking. Yeah. Terrible, terrible thinking. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:18:42 So Alex has this going on. It's all a disruption of the supply chain in order to attack Trump. And there's a secondary aspect to this, and that is that the virus in China itself was used by China so they could shut down their economy. Right. It makes no sense. I refuse. China just shut its factories off. That would piss their employees, their workers, and the stockholders off. If China, here's the big enchilada right now. I love enchiladas. Do you? Because it's all coming together as a war game. Every day. If China just shut their economy down and they just lost a big trade war with America, they've been in a 50-year trade war with us. We even know it was happening because the globalist
Starting point is 00:19:30 sold us out. Okay. But if they then release a virus they bought from Obama that they know is not super lethal, but does kill some people and spreads fast, will scare the hell out of folks, they could push the vaccine later, make money off that as well. And then out of that, they can shut down their factories and order the city shut down in order no one to go to work in all their major industrial sites. And then that kills the global supply chain. They've just checkmated Trump and America. And you know that's what they did. They did it with the deep state, with the UN, coordinated with the EU, who are all on board to create the hysteria and fear, bring down the economy worldwide and then say President Trump and America and people
Starting point is 00:20:18 that questioned when it's obviously overblown, well, it's their fault. Okay. I'm not even sure Alex really even cares what he's saying. It honestly feels like he's just kind of happy. He was able to get to the end of the sentence without running out of air. Yeah, I have no idea what he was trying to say. This entire conspiracy he's selling sounds great and all the idea that China needs this virus in order to cover for just shutting down their economy. Sure. There's some really basic problems that he has considering his years long established rhetoric. So as Alex is selling it, China wants to shut down its economy in order to disrupt the supply chain, which would then embarrass Trump and give the nationalists a black eye or whatever checkmate. So in order to achieve this goal,
Starting point is 00:20:59 they purchased a virus from Obama, which they did not of course and have released it on their own country. The reason they needed to go this route is that if they were just to slow down the economy or shut some factories, it would anger the workers, which China's traditionally cared a lot about. That's really where Alex gets into trouble. Seeing as every single time he talks about China, he mentions forced abortions and suicide nets and factories. Every single characterization of China is not one that really cares too much if the workers are pissed off in Alex's conception. The China that exists in the infor's universe is not a government that would need a virus to use as some kind of subterfuge to get away with doing something the workers don't like their
Starting point is 00:21:37 authoritarians. If there's dissent, they crack down on it. They ran it. They ran they ran a tank over a guy. That's really where this narrative has a problem and the fact that there's no reason for China to do this thing to achieve the goal. Alex is acclaiming they're seeking their motive doesn't make sense, especially given the fact that if the goal is hurting Trump on an economic basis, there's plenty of other moves China could make that would hurt them a bit, but hurt Trump way more politically. Oh yeah. Another problem is that China has been consistently closing down manufacturing plants for years now. In 2018, Reuters reported on a thousand manufacturing plants being scheduled to be shuttered by 2020 in Beijing alone, quote, as part of a program
Starting point is 00:22:18 aimed at curbing smog and boosting income in neighboring regions. There's even precedent for China shutting down industry temporarily to deal with an acute problem, which is basically the situation we find ourselves in with the coronavirus. Back in October 2017, NPR reported on how China's Ministry of Environment had sent out inspectors across the country to determine if factories are following environmental laws. It was estimated that a full 40% of China's factories were shut down temporarily in an attempt to address the horrible damage being done by a filthy manufacturing. That's tens of thousands of factories. This had the predicted effect of disrupting the supply chain with some companies shifting some manufacturing to India and Bangladesh
Starting point is 00:22:59 and others just not being able to produce at full capacity. Once the work of the Ministry of Environment had been done, things began to get back to normal and Alex and most of the people in the world probably don't even remember that this happened. The China shut down almost half of its factories less than three years ago. I doubt they remember that. No. On February 27th, CNBC reported that the National Retail Federation CEO was announcing that, quote, some of the coronavirus-driven supply chain disruption in China is subsiding. The CEO went on to add, quote, a number of the larger companies have started to indicate that the signs they're getting from the Chinese market is some of the production is coming back online. Time reported
Starting point is 00:23:39 on March 6th that Starbucks is announcing that after taking a huge hit and having to close most of its stores in China, things are returning to normal. The vast majority of their shops have reopened and, quote, early signs of recovery are emerging as the coffee giant is seeing sequential improvements in weekly sales. On March 7th, Reuters reported on nine IKEA locations reopening in China. The South China Morning Post reported on March 4th that, quote, over 90% of firms in the Guangdong province have resumed operations. There's still very serious issues to deal with in terms of smaller and medium-sized businesses returning to operation, but a lot of the reason that that's been slow to come back is because of transportation-related
Starting point is 00:24:21 issues. As the Financial Times reported, one of the main issues is that a lot of workers are from rural areas, and they're stranded there with no easy way to commute back to areas like Beijing and get back to work. This gets into a complicated dynamic where full rail service is not back online throughout the country, and also rural authorities in smaller villages are reluctant to raise their crackdown on people entering or leaving the village. These local authorities are worried that they'll be held responsible if they're raised infections, so they're not acting without the explicit direction of the central government, according to an article in the Financial Times citing a scholar from Wuhan. The point is that we're not looking at a complete and perpetual
Starting point is 00:25:01 shutdown of China's economy. There are decent signs that things are starting to return to a more normal posture, and just to be perfectly clear, I'm not trying to pretend that there won't be ripple effects or there won't be difficulties, because even if China was back to 100% capacity today, it would still take a while for that disruption to work its way through the supply chain. They're going to be some hiccups, but it doesn't look like the doomsday that Alex wants to portray it to be, and there are also obviously things that are unforeseen. We have no idea how things are going to develop a week from now, so there could be something else that is a wrench in the gears, but based on the information that's available now, it's not to say that China is out
Starting point is 00:25:44 of the woods, not to say everything is resolved, but there are indications that there is some resuming coming back to normal, which is something that Alex would never want you to know. You can find a lot of business folk who are seeing what's going on, and their response is to suggest that we need to diversify our supply chain to limit the impact that something happening in China has on the larger economy. You would think that this would be the number one most obvious and predictable response that business would have to a large-scale market disruption, so if China were trying to do this whole stunt to embarrass Trump, they would have to be doing it knowing fully well that the odds are that business will flee the country in the
Starting point is 00:26:23 aftermath. That seems dumb, and honestly my larger point is that Alex's conspiracy really makes no sense unless you're working backwards. You need to make a way to make this look like an attack on Trump, and you just kind of write the rest as you see fit, fill in the gaps. That's the only way that this makes any kind of sense. Here's the conclusion I'm trying to reach, and now I need to make not even a series of plausible steps to get there, but any steps at all that might get me there. Yeah, that's the goal. So because it's so much about the supply chain now, Alex is trying to like, hey man, I don't know. I don't know if I said it was super deadly. It's over for humanity. Yeah, that's a problem. So I'm not going to sit here while anybody
Starting point is 00:27:09 misdirects or distracts from what we said that, oh, Jones says the virus is super deadly, but Limbaugh says it's no problem. And so when the stock market starts tanking, which it has, it's our fault for saying, hey, get ready. We said get ready because it is man made in the lab. Obama transferred it to China on record. Mainstream news 2015 was a big debate about it. It's now been released and the media doesn't want to debate about how it's man made and who released it and who stands to gain from it. Who has the means? Who bought it? Who wants to win the trade war? Who's pissed? Who can shut their people down and treat them like slaves and prop up their stock markets? They're totally rigged while hurting ours. China. So this is kind of gaslighting. I
Starting point is 00:27:59 think that Alex has realized that he's completely out of step with the right wing media and Trump. And not only that, kind of out of step with the new information that's coming out about the virus. So now he's pretending, you know, I wasn't mostly talking about this being super deadly. It's a really weird thing to claim because I listened to his show and because of that, I can play you this super cut of times that he and his friends said it was super deadly. So what we think they're doing is they're just putting the number of dead as the number of infected piles of dead bodies and body bags. Clearly this is much bigger from your sources at the UN from your own research. How bad is this? Well, Alex, you had this so called tabletop computer
Starting point is 00:28:40 game at Johns Hopkins. Bill Gates again, 65 million dead. That's the only figure I have seen that seems to be credible. Guess what? In mainland China, it's 740 a.m. over there, Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhou, Guangzhou. Hey, it's time to get up and let's get to work, folks. You got a lot of money. That comes out to be a 20% mortality rate. So even the official numbers now show it has a much higher death rate than they were saying. Yeah, the Chinese government says 15%. Barnes, you look at a lot of numbers. I'm going to shift gears when we come back into the huge coronavirus developments. It's killing people on the cruise ships now. Multiple cruise ships, people are dying. That means it isn't hype. It is killing people and
Starting point is 00:29:25 it's spreading very fast. But now the numbers are coming out. We know that it is indeed killing healthy young people and it is killing a high number of those that are infected. Yes, this virus is deadly. It's not like SARS and things that were just to hype up and scare people and only killed a few hundred. This is already killed thousands and thousands. The videos are pouring out. The chai comms can't contain it. The censorship isn't working and it does have a high kill rate. Hell, if it's 5%, it's devastating. Landsuit says it can be high as 18%. I treated it a patient a month ago. It was really the first case of the coronavirus before it was ever reported of a gentleman who met with a Chinese individual and got the pneumonia and was treated with high
Starting point is 00:30:08 doses of antibiotics. Come on down to know this individual very well because that individual happens to be me for humanity. There will only be lone survivors. I'm not saying any of this to pump up any claims like I have elevated wisdom or anything, but I knew a pivot was coming. And that's part of why I keep playing that drop of Mike Adams saying that it's over for humanity, because I know from watching infos for as long as I have that they would eventually change the entire story to something else and pretend they didn't play this game hard because it was working to sell food buckets. I'm not going to sit here and pretend that Alex didn't occasionally mention the trade war as background motivation for China having false flagged itself, but the economic stuff
Starting point is 00:30:49 was absolutely not front and center in these conspiracies. The primary driver of a lot of his coverage was surrounding how deadly this virus was and how it wasn't a hoax like he decided Zika and SARS and Ebola were. All the stuff Alex said in that clip isn't true. It's not true that he didn't focus strongly on how deadly the virus was. It's not true that Obama sold the virus to China. It's not true that there's proof that the virus is manmade. Those are all just the salvageable narrative pieces he built while he was trying to support his argument that millions were going to die and you need to buy his silver gargle and food buckets if you want to survive. Much like viruses themselves, propaganda narratives mutate in order to accommodate the
Starting point is 00:31:27 propagandists' needs. We saw this in our breakdown of the Boston bombing coverage, how Alex was constantly shifting things around based on where he wanted it to go. He's doing that now and I kind of suspect that there's two reasons why. The first is that if he keeps going with this death panic, he would put himself squarely at odds with Trump. If you're screaming about how the virus is going to kill everyone and your hero, president is calling it, you know, hey, no big deal. We're all super prepared. Everything's good. It's hard to maintain positive coverage of that guy. The second is that Jim Baker fucked up Alex's silver gargle sales plan, which was really the main monetary reason for Alex to spread the medical side of the panic. Baker tried to sell his silver
Starting point is 00:32:06 the same way Alex did by lying about it being proven to cure coronavirus and in response, the New York Attorney General sent him a cease and desist letter. Baker went to public with the scam and now there's a very explicit order from a state attorney general threatening to take action on someone selling his shit that way. Alex obviously knows that and probably doesn't want to pay millions and fees. The food bucket sales are compatible with a generalized financial panic, however, so it makes some sense that he would be able to play, you know, places narratives there and you know, you could land. Yeah, you can still sell some food buckets. Yeah, if Ted Anderson hadn't had the state of Minnesota strip him of his gold sales license and Bob Chapman weren't dead,
Starting point is 00:32:45 you could guarantee that this would be a long prophesied summer of rage and Alex would be selling gold so damn hard and you can guarantee if Trump sold Trump branded food buckets. This would be the biggest catastrophe in the history of the world. Yeah, so there's another part there at the end that I think we should pay attention to the end of Alex's initial clip before that super cut earlier. His argument was the China would need to fake this virus outbreak in order to shut down their economy without angering the workers, but in that last clip you heard Alex use his standard line on China. Their economy is completely fake and controlled. Their workers are slaves and the state does whatever he wants. He has these things so down pat. It's like cruise
Starting point is 00:33:30 control for him to spout them off, so he doesn't realize that if these things he's saying are true, it takes the legs out of this new conspiracy. Yeah, he just doesn't think things through very much and he's totally fine with internal inconsistencies. Yeah, I think he he's also probably feeling that that certain betrayal of like, man, I've been out on the front here trying to do this and I turn and look behind me and all of you guys are in the opposite direction motherfuckers. I have been trying. I have been fighting for you and I'm not getting the lines anymore. Now I want to be clear. This is how this show feels. This is how Sunday feels. Okay. This feeling may not last. Oh no. Jesus Christ. So anyway, Alex believes that this virus is largely an
Starting point is 00:34:16 attack on Trump. That's mostly what's going on. That's the primary thing. Narcissism by proxy. Absolutely, but not just Trump. A global problem needs a global solution. This is their answer to Balasaro in Brazil and to President Trump here and to the Brexit in the UK and what's happening in Europe. This is it. So I know it probably seemed petty of me to keep playing these clips where Alex doesn't know Bolsonaro's name, but I wouldn't do it if there wasn't a bigger reason to. It's been months and months that Alex has been boosting Bolsonaro, but for the first stretch, he was just calling him Brazil's Trump. Then at certain point, he started mispronouncing it pretty wildly. At no point has anyone at Info Wars corrected him.
Starting point is 00:34:57 At no point has he realized he was fucking that up. It just seems like he may not have a good grasp on the subject he's covering. And to make matters worse, Alex interviewed Bolsonaro's son at CPAC mere days before this episode that we're listening to here. It may, you know, if you listen to that interview, if you watch it, it seems like Alex is aware that he doesn't know this guy's dad's name. No, so he keeps referring to him as your father. No, how here is the introduction to that interview. Well, here we are with the son of the Brazilian president. There's a real maverick. You can't say his name. You just can't do it. No, he and he definitely won't say it to his son's face. Yeah, and I think the Bolsonaro's son pronounces it very Brazilian. Yeah, yeah, and Alex can't
Starting point is 00:35:47 mirror it about Bolsonaro. Now, dammit, stay out of touch. So Alex is convinced that one of the reasons that he's correct about this narrative that the the virus is just to attack Trump is because the media media can't stop attacking Trump for and that he plays one clip. I don't know if I heard him play any others. This is the only one I remember him playing that demonstrates his claim. Here's the control corporate media salivating over that we told you was coming a month ago. Here it is salivating. The thing was I kept thinking about here is that clearly this is a potentially huge problem for Donald Trump. At the same time, though, do Democrats actually careful in how they use this sort of health emergency to attack the president? Well, I think
Starting point is 00:36:39 they're actually in pretty solid footing to go after the president on this mostly because there aren't heads at the CDC and the National Institutes of Health. He's he's got funding there. I really think that his lack of response, Donald Trump's lack of response to getting in front of this looks very similar to what actually happened in China where you act like it's not a problem and then you respond quite late and then maybe you put a vice president Pence in charge who's not a medical doctor. Stay there. We're going to come back with the rest of this folks. This is a total setup. We're proving right again. That's not the media salivating over the possibility of attacking Trump. I did not hear a salivation there. That's a very measured conversation about whether or not
Starting point is 00:37:21 it's a good idea to point the finger at Trump for the way his administration has handled a public health situation. Obviously, there's a ton of issues surrounding Trump's response. Many of them pretty well laid out by that anchor, but I'm not really going to get into that water right now. I'm not really well versed enough to be able to really assess a lot of that stuff while the situation is ongoing. And there are a lot of other sources people can get information from. I will address the sorts of things that if Alex makes a specific claim about something, I don't mind getting into it, but I don't want to risk making it seem like my discussion of this virus situation comes from a desire to score points against Trump. So I'm going to air on the side of
Starting point is 00:37:59 not dwelling on that too much. I'm going to go with it's bad, but I don't know how bad. So that clip is important for one major reason. This is not the media salivating to attack Trump. It's a restrained articulated series of points about what appeared to be bad signs about the government's response to a public health crisis. That's the way the globalists salivate. Sure, but that needs to be reframed as a rabid attempt to smear Trump because Alex is predicted that would be what the globalist media does. Of course. On some level, I'm convinced that Alex made the prediction that the globalist media would attack him for not doing well because he knew that Trump would bungle the response to the virus. Yeah. And inevitably the media would cover that. There
Starting point is 00:38:40 would be stories about the CDC funding. There would be voices of concern about putting Pence in charge. There would be a lot of questions being asked about why certain things weren't done sooner. In order to inoculate the audience from hearing those questions as reporting in reality, Alex is established in advance that this sort of coverage is actually proof that the whole thing is a globalist plot to begin with. And the coverage is actually the payoff of that plan. They released the virus to sink the stock market to attack Trump and now they get to attack him for not responding well. The thing that's kind of hilarious about Alex's underlying argument is that even his narrative includes an admission that Trump didn't handle the virus situation well.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Even he's not trying to deny that he's just loudly yelling and pointing somewhere else. So his listeners don't realize it and saying like oh he only didn't respond well because the CDC told him not to yep or something. It is. That's weird. I find the reality fascinating that as long as Trump is doing an awful job, the media will criticize him for it, which then makes the white agreement conservative narrative function. It's always an attack on Trump so that he can either do a really terrible job and the media calls him a shit president for it or he can do a good job and get praise for it. But if he gets praised by the media, then that agreement narrative doesn't really work. No, so the it's almost like the conservative
Starting point is 00:40:03 propaganda machine is relying on Trump to be a shitty president. Yeah, in order to continue their narrative. One of Alex's longstanding things is talking about how like he would tell people in the media that if they wanted to destroy Ron Rand Paul or Ron Paul, what they need to do is endorse him right and in order for them to endorse him, he'd have to not be a crazy wing ding. So it would be a smart move. So it is kind of the same dynamic. It's like you have to be not yourself in order for the media. Exactly. Yeah, it's it's it's not a good way to to look at things. No, it's really not a good way to determine your your actions. So we know that Alex is a humorless boob and a weirdo. Yeah, even though the radio is getting better at comedy, certainly.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Yeah, I've always thought that's just because he's not funny and is a dork, but it turns out there's another reason. Okay, I'm not here bragging or tooting my horn. And I'll tell you this. So he's about to brag. He's organically seen dialectic bragging. I've always seen the different factors coming together. Right. What they're going to do. They call that third dimensional, fourth dimensional chess. That's bragging. But that's just not seeing things straight on one dimensional, two dimensional. So a lot of times somebody will tell me a joke and I just don't even get it because I'm in a mode of not being into comedy. And I'll see it very literally. But that's because I'm taking in all the data. No, it's because you're not funny. No, it's it's
Starting point is 00:41:31 mainly that. Yeah, yeah, it's because you don't get jokes. No, yeah, there are layers to jokes. You could almost say that they're three dimensional. Yeah. So this is all synthetic, the virus situation. It's all a globalist attack. And guess what? What? Because Alex naturally sees and dialectics. He's always natural. He knows what's going to happen next. Of course he does. And it's all totally concerted from Australia, Indonesia, the US. It's all the globalists. It's all scripted. It's all synthetic. This is a major attack. Do I know exactly what their next move is? I think I know. But so say it. Right. My spirit fuck off until it
Starting point is 00:42:15 fuck off. Get out of here analysis. But we're dead on folks. I keep saying that we're dead on. My spirit is not authorized. Get the fuck out of here. That is that is the like, oh, you can verify what I'm saying. But the only guy you could verify with it is dead. So unfortunately, I just you just got to have to trust me on this one. Can we FOIA your spirit? Yeah. Get the fuck out of here. I'm not authorized to release it by my spirit. The fuck off. I wonder what that means in real people talk. My prediction is thin right now. I got nothing. Yeah. So Alex realizes that Trump has been putting forth a posture of like he's not really concerned.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Right. Right. Right. About things like I had no big deal. Go fuck yourself. Well, it's poor people dying. So go fuck yourself. Well, Alex's rationalization for this ends up being that Trump wants to create confidence. So the stock market is protected. Yeah. And that kind of thing. Right. And so he rationalizes this and sort of abdicates any responsibility to tell truth. I guess kind of good. And I get why Trump wants to play this down. He sees the UN height. He sees the globalist. He sees them want to take down our economy. He knows China lost the trade war. They launched against their own people to lock stuff down, have a reset, have a communist clamp down. It'll show us what they do to our economy. They believe is fragile. Maybe the president's
Starting point is 00:43:38 right to play it down. We shouldn't get caught up in that. Our job is the oracle of info wars. That means you, the callers and the guests, all of us, the people, the real town square, the brain storm. This is people to get together on the tribe. I'm like, I have hours of days. Well, you know what to do. Like I just got the answer. That's what this is. This is unfiltered, not globalist academics giving us answers down off mountains, but us together, sussing it out. They don't like this. Yeah. I mean, like it's the oracle. It's like really important when you have people calling in and being like, don't pop bubbles. Got Chinese air in those bubbles. Too many oracles. That's the brain store. That is the high level thing. The globalist
Starting point is 00:44:23 sphere the fuck out of here. I was listening to that and the thing that I noticed is just how bad he's become. Just as a job. Yeah. Yeah. Also it's a Sunday show. Right. Right. I just mean from like vocal patterns because he had it going in the beginning of that clip. He had that like dadadada dadadada dadadada dadadada dadadada you know that whole like perfect way. It doesn't even matter what you're saying. He's talking musically there. So you're going to hear that and then at the then at the second half he's just like it just sucks like he can't sustain it. Well, yeah, his cardio is not what it once was. No, it's not. He's going to need to shave his head to get that. Then he's going to be streamlined. Yeah, he's going to be really aerodynamic. It's
Starting point is 00:45:07 like a swimmer's cap. Yeah. So throughout this it's been pretty clear that on this episode at least Alex is putting forth the idea that this is all about this supply chain disruption. Yep. And in this next clip it makes it fairly clear that he thinks that maybe this is even fake. And as soon as I saw China lock down whole cities knowing it would devastate their economy, I said if it was real, they'd cover it up. You could see the fakeness. Not that people being wielded to hospitals were fake, but the way they did it and the cameras and all of it was they were exacerbating it and the order had gone out is create global hysteria. So that's a really interesting angle Alex is taking on this. He's saying that immediately when he saw China lock
Starting point is 00:45:52 down cities, he knew it was a fake event and the globalist order had gone out to try to create hysteria. Please remember that China put Wuhan under lockdown on January 23rd and for some context Alex had Mike Adams as a guest to announce that it was over for humanity on. Ooh, let me check my notes here January 24th. That's what I thought. So I guess Alex is good buddy. Mike Adams is just spouting globalist lines. He must be getting the globalist talking points that it was time to cause hysteria and good for Alex facilitating that and then having Mike on his show every day and letting him guest host when he went to CPAC. It's tiresome at this point from a distress that all Alex has been doing is playing into hysteria since late January at least. We don't
Starting point is 00:46:34 need to believe her at that point, but there's another big lie here and that is Alex claiming that he immediately knew this was all a charade since if it was real, they would cover it up. China would cover it up. Yeah, this is not true in the early stages of Alex's coverage. He was pitching a whole lot of theories like when he was saying it's possible that Trump had released a bio weapon on China as payback for fentanyl or the entire it was stolen from a lab in Winnipeg narrative that he would later call disinformation. He was all over the place, but his initial reaction was actually that this was a real thing unlike the outbreaks like Zika, SARS and Ebola, which were all fake. In his January 24th interview with Mike Adams, this idea was laid out pretty explicitly
Starting point is 00:47:15 and is something Alex signed off on and mirrored in his later coverage. One way that I believe that you know that this is a real pandemic is because the WHO is trying to downplay it. So whatever the WHO does, the World Health Organization, it's the opposite of reality. When the bird flu virus was a non pandemic, they declared it a stage six pandemic. So the other ones in the past were fake. This one's real because the WHO is not screaming and setting buildings on fire or something. I am sick of proof being what they don't do. Well, of course. And actually, I think towards the end of this, we'll get a clip that actually fully demonstrates why they behave this way or at least why Alex does and it almost broke
Starting point is 00:47:58 my brain. So in this next clip, Alex lays out his conspiracy a bit and it's very stupid. I'm not, I'm not even concerned or scared now because this is so real. You know how a fight works. You go out there, the bullies waiting for you. You don't want to get in the fight. You're kind of, but you're not going to back down. And as soon as he takes a swing or even connects, you're like, you know what, let's turn it on and beat your ass to the ground. You know, you a little too far and kick the brains out. That's what you asked for. So I'm now metaphysically have entered the point of no fear or no concern anymore. That tells me we're in war mode, ladies and gentlemen, my spirit has gone into not giving a
Starting point is 00:48:34 damn. And that tells me my spiritual radar says this is the big move. So we better start debating what the president should do. We should stop speculating. We know it's man made by a weapon transferred to Obama to China, waiting to be released in the future of need be as a martial law takeover of China to reset the global economy, create a global crisis. We have a global solution to then attack Western open governments that the left pushed for claiming openness is a problem. Now we're going to have closed societies, but run by the UN. What is the permutation analysis at the end there? I've met that guy. I've met that guy at a party.
Starting point is 00:49:12 That's a that's a guy on a blow. Yep. Yep. That's that's a bit much. We're all going to be closed nations run by the United Nations. Dan right that makes perfect sense does now the only thing I really find super interesting is his braggadocious bullshit there at the beginning about how like I'm not scared anymore and I'm now my my spirit knows this is the big one. Like how many times have we heard him say that all I hear is once again. I'm a coward. That's all I hear him say all I hear is once again. I'm saying these things. So you take me seriously. Yeah, it's it's it's repetitious to a point of offensive. It reminds me to be where the earlys of March. Sure. When
Starting point is 00:49:57 are the eyes 15th? Okay, so Trump is down playing this virus right and that's bad because the globalists will say that he's covering it up for something. Sure. Sure. Sure. Here I don't really know how to set up this clip because it's convoluted a little bit in the beginning, but towards the end. Alex says something deeply fucked up and so I would like you to put your mic down for this to try and understand the clip, but then also so you don't talk over accidentally Alex saying something he should never say. Okay, my frustration repeat this every segment is that summer and I get they're going to tap me regardless what I say, but I want to get this straight. Any angle you look at this virus.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Any angle you look at when you watch China lock down almost a billion people, you know that's going to kill the global economy. That right there is just so seismic and just, you know, Godzilla's in a movie tearing up Tokyo. This is Godzilla all over the planet. And I get Trump is in a Godzilla fight here and he just wants to play it down and I understand that, but see that's the trap. When he plays it down, the media is going to say he covered it up. Their only fear is he plays it up and uses it for control like Xi Jinping has done. And that's why Bill Maher said, I think Trump will try to declare martial law with this because that's what they want to do when Trump doesn't act and they're afraid Trump may grab it
Starting point is 00:51:34 from them at the last minute. And by the way, I don't want martial law with all the bureaucrats that are under Trump, even though he didn't try to put bureaucrats in, I don't want to turn them all into little demigods. I'm just saying this is the world we've entered. So do you want Nancy Pelosi and the chai comms at martial law? Or do you want Trump too? Because that's the wheelhouse we've now entered. So the world that Alex is putting forth is like the situation that we find ourselves in is Nancy Pelosi, martial law or Trump, martial law. Aren't you the guy who claims you see through dichotomies and dialectics? What are you doing to your audience here? Like you're trying to make them be like, hey, look, hey, there's no other option than Trump. Well, obviously
Starting point is 00:52:22 we're going to get martial law. Would you rather have Nancy Pelosi do martial law or Trump do martial law? I mean, you know, I before I have been fighting nonstop against martial law, but now that it's obviously going to happen, there's only one choice. This would be like me in a couple years on this show talking about how great W. Cleon scousers. Absolutely. Yeah, it would be ridiculous. I think Ted Anderson should get his gold license back. I think that Rob do is the best corporate representative this country has ever seen in a deposition. That's just like he's Mr anti martial law guy. He's saying, oh, look, because of this crisis that he believes is a globalist manufactured crisis, we either need to have Trump, martial law or Pelosi, martial law,
Starting point is 00:53:09 choose one or the other. There's no third option. This is no fighting against both. This could not be more like straight out of the gerbils handbook. Like this is bad. Like let's here's the thing. I'm just going to take the worst option and get rid of all other possibilities. So my ridiculous lunatic followers will of course choose. Sure. Yeah. Yep. It's good. Cool. So Alex has Mike Adams on the show on Sunday and Mike has got a new theory about what this virus is really about. It's under for humanity. No. Oh, I've noticed he hasn't hasn't been going that far anymore. He hasn't scaled those great heights since January 24th. What a moron. Yeah. He's been. I think he's been a little bit like I might have really overshot that one. Yeah. Yeah. That might
Starting point is 00:53:56 have been the biggest way. The spirit got good to me and it felt really good to say. No, I felt good to hear. Yeah. We've heard it three million times. Yeah. So he has a new theory and it's very stupid. But clearly the media hype that the the EU hype the what the chai comms have done they're planning something big with this. What do you think it is? Well, there's a second trap that they can initiate in all this. The first trap was to allow the virus to spread deliberately and then blame Trump. That first has been sprung and the narrative has already been launched. The second trap is even bigger. They know that there are going to be quarantines of communities and perhaps cities across America. And those quarantines will most likely be liberal cities
Starting point is 00:54:39 where you have the most filth, the most homelessness and so on. And the highest population density. It will be the Democrats. I would go with the last one. It will be the Democrats calling for suspending the elections in November because really not enough Democrats will be able to participate because they will be under quarantine. Smart. If Trump suspends the elections, then the Democrats or if Trump is able to, I mean, he might have to have a lot of other people going along with it, perhaps the Supreme Court, perhaps the Senate, who knows. But if he's able to achieve that, then the Democrats will say, oh my gosh, he's a dictator now. He's just declared himself a dictator and they will use that to launch the big violent revolution that
Starting point is 00:55:19 they've been talking about for years. And here is when we learn why Mike is a health ranger, not a political science ranger. If you follow his theory, the real trap with the coronavirus is about making democratic areas unable to vote, which will prompt the Democrats to call for suspending the elections. If Trump goes along with it, he'll be called the dictator and all the violent leftists will take to the street and enact their violent revolution. Right. This is a dumb theory for one major reason, and that is absentee ballots. In 33 of the states in the country, any registered voter can request a mail-in ballot without even giving a reason for their need for an absentee ballot. The other 17 states allow voters who meet certain qualifications to vote
Starting point is 00:55:58 remotely, which I would assume coronavirus pandemic might be worth it might qualify. We're under quarantine. Well, if you can't make it to your polling station, although that is what Georgia would do. Five states automatically send out ballots to everyone, but if they prefer, they can still go vote in person. On the occasion that the coronavirus situation does escalate in the United States, there's literally no reason why we shouldn't have the infrastructure that would be needed to still carry out the election. It would just require some slight tweaks and some coherent messaging about how to participate in absentee voting. For this reason, even if democratic areas are hit harder by an outbreak, you would probably never hear Democrats calling for a
Starting point is 00:56:36 suspension of the election. They would call for sending out absentee ballots. And given the fact that we're not even through the primaries yet, there's every reason to believe that there is enough time to get that done should they have the political will. And like I said, the coherent messaging would really be the most important. The only way the Democrats would call for suspending the elections is Bernie becomes the nominee. I don't think that's the case and you need to not feed into that. I'm just, I'm just, I'm just making a hyperbolic statement. Fair enough. The only people who would ever call for the suspension of an election are Trump authoritarian boosters like Alex and Mike 100. This sort of conversation Mike is having serves the purpose
Starting point is 00:57:16 of preemptively making it the Democrats fault. If Trump does decide to suspend the election, look, do you want Pelosi or Trump? That's what you got. It won't be a sign of his authoritarianism and dictatorish leanings coming to the surface. It'll be just be a response to an evil left wing plot. I just wish the left wing wouldn't make me punch them in the face all the time for standing there. Look at them stand there. They're planning something and it's not my fault. I have to punch them in the face and they're making me do it. Look at them just stand in there. So like I said, and I mean to stress this because it is very key to understanding how things are going. Yeah, not good. This thing that I'm trying to stress is that a lot of the talking points, a lot of the
Starting point is 00:58:04 things that are brought up are intrinsically about the supply chain disruption. That is the primary narrative surrounding the coronavirus on this March 1st show and that's why Alex will bring up things like this. That was in the news two weeks ago. It was like Reuters. We pull it up, guys. If you can, German auto industry might have 50% reduction in sales over Wuhan virus and it was just, it was pointing just out that very point. So this is a minor point, but I wanted to call attention to it to demonstrate how little care Alex has about presenting information accurately. He's just grasping at straws to pull out some headlines he read a while back in order to reinforce Mike Adams who was making points about the disruption of the global economy the
Starting point is 00:58:47 virus is causing. Right. Alex says that there was a story in Reuters about the virus causing the German auto industry to drop 50%. In reality, this story is about how the virus might cut in half German automobile sales specifically in China during the month of February. The German automobile industry is already in tough shape. They've been hit hard by emission standards, people transitioning to electric cars and as Dutch a well points out quote higher tariffs caused by US China trade tensions. In case you're forgetting those are Trump's tariffs. No, no, it's China. They're smart. The conversation that Mike and Alex are having is about the disruption of supply chains where companies are losing profits because they can't get the parts they need to make their product.
Starting point is 00:59:29 The German car situation is a completely different thing. It's all about decrease sales in the Asian market. BMW Daimler and Volkswagen don't even have any factories in the affected areas of China. This is a demand disruption, not supply, but Alex and Mike don't care about that distinction. Also, Alex is just spouting off shit about German auto companies dropping 50% when it's a much more precise statistic than that. He doesn't care because it helps serve the narrative that's being pushed. Right. That's annoying. It is annoyed. I'm very annoyed. Yeah. So Alex is still pushing the food pretty hard. Okay, of course, still going hard on the food. Yeah, you can. You can always go on food and with the supply chain issues. It's even more relevant for sure. You might run out of
Starting point is 01:00:12 food. Exactly. Exactly. So you can use that. It's sort of a way. Does the food come from China? No, I don't think so. That would be very funny. I think he said in the past that none of the stuff comes. I don't know. I don't. I have no idea. I would be. I would be interested to find out. I would bet that my Patriots apply whether or not they do source things from China will tell you they do not. I would imagine so. Right. So they do that for a bit and it's not worth listening to. It's all the standard shit. Sure. But I found this really interesting because he's got the health ranger on here and Alex asks how we can win. How can we protect ourselves from any possible infection? How do we snatch victory from the jaws of defeat? Well, look, America can survive this,
Starting point is 01:00:53 but it requires people turning to antiviral molecules that exist right now and there are only two sources of where to get that. Number one, there are some prescription medications that have antiviral effects. None of them are yet proven against the coronavirus, but they're very strong candidates. The second place is plants and understand plants, which is food, superfoods, herbs, even just regular things like garlic and ginger and onions. Conspicuous in its absence, nano silver. Yeah. That does seem like they would put that there. Alex doesn't even bring it up after Mike's thing like also our product. He says when he gets sick or when he feels like he's starting to get sick, he eats a ton of onions. Yeah. Yeah. That's the trick in the in the past
Starting point is 01:01:37 couple weeks in the past month or so. These sorts of conversations would always be accompanied by a plug for the wound gel and the gargle. Nothing is more antiviral than what the Pentagon has proven to be antiviral against this very virus. It's conspicuous. It is very weird. It almost seems like somebody might have sent him a letter. It seems like he might have got a warning. It could be. I don't know that to be the case and I would be irresponsible to speculate like saying like I think he did. Well, but his behavior has changed. I mean it's not. He's not selling the gargle like he used to right. Well get it. You know Baker getting a letter is might might as well be Baker getting a very public letter. Yeah. The same thing as Alex getting a letter. Essentially
Starting point is 01:02:19 yeah. It's definitely putting people on notice. Yeah, exactly and if Alex doesn't want to lose millions of dollars potentially and finds yeah his behavior would need to change. It would be a smart idea. I mean I think we've talked about this too. It's possible he's just out to yeah. I don't I don't know exactly. That's true. There are other possibilities, but his behavior is definitely differently changed. So Mike starts complaining about how the youth are lazy. Oh these millennials did we have. We tried putting a bowl in blood and drinking it yet. No. Oh well that's because we're lazy right there. The OSHA does not allow you to do that damn regulations. Yeah. So he's complaining about how this new generation just sucks. They don't work hard and I would just
Starting point is 01:03:02 ignore that normally, but it leads into Alex screaming about his account. I thought that was really okay. He's mad about taxis. The younger millennials and even younger people in America today they do not have a work ethic that you and I grew up with. So there's this laziness. It's real. It's in the youth of America today. Back it up. They should have to work. They say things like I don't work in a sneaker factory. I buy brand name sneakers. You know they're consumers not producers and this back that up. On average there's a sluggishness and that's well known. I'm sluggish compared to my grandfather's, but you're absolutely right. People then also just see numbers. They go like I don't even have CPAs. They go this week. It's like well there's this money in your bank
Starting point is 01:03:47 account. I saw the tax bill and I go we'll be bankrupt. That went you didn't count. We got to pay the vendors and I go oh you're right. Sorry. Half that money was to be paid for refilling orders. I'm like I was up here yesterday. I'm not bitching. Five hours going that's money owed to people. I won't pay taxes on money. It's not mine. I was at a damn heart attack, but I mean CPAs man. It's CPAs man. That's who's behind it all. It's his accountant to millennial. How is this related? I don't understand. I just thought that was really funny. Alex just how dare he. My sister-in-law is the CPA. You come at me when you come at CPAs. That's what's happening. You're going to protect you. That's what's happening. I was an accountant for a little while, but not certified. Anyway,
Starting point is 01:04:40 we have one last clip here from the Sunday show and it's Alex. He wants to scare the audience about the possibility of this quarantine coming to the United States. And so he asks Mike to help him. Well, this pandemic is going to be the ultimate wake up call. No, no, I agree. It's over for you, man. Mike, let me say that once you're back on show tomorrow, I'm ranting in a few minutes here. Yeah, that is really deadly and everything walks down and you have a Wuhan quarantine. What will the average leftist do? You talk about a group of psychotic piranhas. I suppose there will be no enforcement of any quarantine of a liberal city in America because the people that you would try to isolate will not comply. Not at all. They will go
Starting point is 01:05:23 insane on a normal day in many cases. I have no idea if people on the left would be more or less likely than your average person to go along with a quarantine. However, Mike is fucking high if he thinks his militia patriot buddies that don't tread on me types are any any more likely to accept a government mandated quarantine. No, they love that shit. These are people who threaten insurrection over military training exercises and land grazing fees. Do you think for one second that these same people who had an armed standoff at the Malhoor Wildlife Preserve would have the government tell them to stay indoors or whatever in the back? You got it. It's farcical. Alex has said that like half the police in the country would be killed if background checks for gun purchases were
Starting point is 01:06:02 expanded. How do you think the sovereign citizens would react? They don't think that they need driver's licenses and they view courts as invalid. They legitimately don't think the state has any authority. So there's sure is shit not going to acquiesce to a quarantine. It's all really stupid, but you can hear in Alex's voice that he's rushing to the end of the show. He wants to scare the audience about the left before he wraps up, which is weird. I don't know why that's the the note he wants to leave on the left. They're scary. So we get to the second Monday and Alex's show opens up very serious, very, very serious. Okay. Well, this is up to this day, the most out of control, most important, most critical broadcast I've ever done. Never heard that many times. It's
Starting point is 01:06:47 the truth. You've said this so many damn times, so many times. Do I need to open my car window and start screaming about it? Block traffic. Yeah. And it's going to change the game. This is the whole thing, huh? Yeah. So it turns out that all of that stuff about what I was talking about about the coronavirus narrative shifting should be all about the supply chain. Uh-huh. Throw that out. Why? It's boring. Get it out of here. Throw it out the window. Fresh start, dad. Fresh start. Throw it out the fucking window because now we're back to fucking everyone's going to die. Okay, good. So it turns out just on a day to day basis. It turns out that Alex has a couple of sources. Oh no about this and he gets into it in this this next clip. And so let me
Starting point is 01:07:34 just tell you the news that's coming up for today. Bottom of the hour, I have talked to multiple experts, one of them is a lieutenant colonel with army special operations. Is that Zach? Who said the Pentagon believes with the numbers they have that they could have up to three million dead people in the next six months here in the United States from the coronavirus. Now I learned this a couple days ago. And then there was a retired lieutenant colonel in my house this morning. And I had to go on a totally separate issue and my wife's in there drinking coffee with him. He just retired like a year ago and he goes, yeah, the word and he was with army special operations just so happens. And he says,
Starting point is 01:08:39 yeah, the word is from the numbers is they're looking at three million dead. Oh man, you know what? It's really weird. It's really weird at this three million dead figure that Alex is pretending that he has high level sources telling him it's exactly the same estimate that Mike Adams made on Alex's show on Sunday. Wait, oh my God, I can't believe this. I completely forgot to play you that clip. And you mentioned Rush. So I'll bring this up. Okay, Rush says is only a 2% mortality rate. Well, if you infect half of America, which is pretty typical for a flu, 2% comes out to roughly 3.3 million dead Americans. So Rush essentially just admitted there could be millions of deaths in America, which is 100 times larger than the flu. Let's be clear. We don't want that to happen.
Starting point is 01:09:22 It's terrible. So this is an offshoot of Alex repeatedly on his Sunday show referring to Rush Limbaugh as an expert on these matters. And Rush said on his show that there's a 98% recovery rate, therefore a 2% mortality rate. The 2% fatality rate is then estimated by Mike to be about three million deaths. It was a really, it was really remarkable to me how on Monday Alex has multiple high level sources telling him they were preparing for three million dead. And yet when he's discussing this very topic on his show on Sunday, that didn't come up. It is strange that he because he heard from the Lieutenant Colonel's right a couple days ago. Yeah, yeah, a couple days ago. He knows a lot of Lieutenant Colonel. Yeah, he does, but it's suspicious how many retired Lieutenant
Starting point is 01:10:05 Colonel they're saying the same thing as Mike. He doesn't. He doesn't seem to know any like Brigadier Generals. He doesn't really have much much other rankings to go by. Huh? Yeah, strange. Now there's another weird quirk here and that is that that clip of Mike making this 2% and three million dead right assessment that is talking about Rush. He's responding to a clip of Rush Limbaugh's commentary. Now here is Alex playing Rush talking about the coronavirus on his Sunday show. You have dead right on this. The coronavirus is is is the common cold folks. The drive by media hype of this thing as a pandemic as the Andromeda strain as oh my god, if you get it, you're dead. Do you know what the I think the the the survival rate is 98% 98% of
Starting point is 01:11:04 people get the coronavirus survive. It's a it's a respiratory system virus. It probably it is probably is a CHICOM laboratory experiment that that is in the process of being weaponized. So there he goes and tells you the Senate had a secret hearing last week. We're gonna cover it. They know what it is. Okay, we'll tell you next hour. Rush knows. So here we see the 2% number being established, which Alex and Mike Adams will later use to estimate their 3 million dead number. More interestingly, Rush says that this virus might have been created in a Chinese lab. And in order to strengthen that, Alex says that there were secret meetings in Congress and Rush knows about them. This has the effect of implying that what Rush is saying is actually
Starting point is 01:11:44 secret high level information, as opposed to just Rush Limbaugh doing what he always does, talk shit. Over the course of the show, this insinuation strengthens. By the next time Alex brings up Rush's comments, he's now very, very strongly implying that Rush saying the virus might have been made in a lab in China, where him reporting on things Trump and Pence told him. And that's what Limbaugh said at the end of his take. And you know, he's talking to Trump and Pence and the Pentagon every day. I mean, Limbaugh's totally hooked up more than probably anybody in media. He's like, yeah, it's a bio weapon got out of their lab, but it's not big. It only killed 2% of you. The flu doesn't even kill one 10th of 1% folks. But see Limbaugh's getting you ready.
Starting point is 01:12:24 And now let's jump ahead to the next time Rush comes up on this Sunday show. Alex is talking about how he's been saying that coronavirus is manmade for a long time. And you would think you would just brag about how Rush is picking up on that now, but Alex doesn't. Alex is actively conflating Rush, making a stupid comment on his dumb dumb radio show with information that's coming from the Senate. We told you it was manmade out of the Wuhan Bio Weapons Lab. That's now Senate Intelligence Committee meetings last week. That's now Rush Limbaugh. He talks to president daily. They're big buddies. Alex has absolutely no information about any real or imagined Senate Intelligence hearing. He's making that up because he believes for absolutely no reason that Rush was
Starting point is 01:13:04 reporting on Senate Intelligence hearing materials and stuff that comes from Trump when he was just talking shit. This is one of the more clear cut cases I've seen of Alex just blatantly laundering a source, but it's not fully laundered yet. Alex is still mentioning Rush when he's making this claim in that last clip. This is technically still just embellishing Rush's shit talk. However, you don't have to look too far to find this claim fully, completely laundered into something that is now a complete lie. Have all said for over a month, it's manmade. Major Indian universities, other scientific facilities have looked and they go, my God, it's manmade. Well, of course, we're concerned about that. Chicken vaccine. So where'd it come from in China? Now even the Pentagon
Starting point is 01:13:46 says it's manmade. Within the span of his two hour show, Alex took a stray piece of bullshit that Rush Limbaugh said on his show and gradually escalated it into being super high level inside information that Rush is reporting. Once Alex elevated that shit talk to that level, he doesn't need Rush getting in the way anymore. If Rush is getting this from high level Pentagon sources, read Trump as the commander in chief and the Senate Intelligence people, then Alex can just cut out the middleman and report on the information that Rush must be reporting on. You can see these fingerprints in the way Alex uses information if you pay attention. And honestly, the scariest part for me is I don't even think that's a conscious process. I think Alex just started talking about
Starting point is 01:14:28 Rush's comments and instinctually wanted to reinforce the parts of it that are most in line with his own narratives, namely that the virus is manmade. So he started tying Rush to Trump and secret Senate hearings. And as he's going, I have a feeling that he just lost track of where the starting point was. There is no secret information. There's no Pentagon confirmation. There's nothing except a blowhard right wing hack that Alex used to hate talking shit. And to loop back around to Monday's episode, Alex's three million estimate matches up mysteriously well with Mike Adams' estimate that he was taking from Rush. I don't believe that Alex has any of these sources. I think this is all him working off branching paths that all trace back to a 30 second from clip
Starting point is 01:15:08 from Rush Limbaugh. Yeah, yeah, I would accept that this is just a snowball situation where he's even like, even if he was taking it directly from Rush, he's just automatically going to say that there's a Lieutenant Colonel involved. There's just always a Lieutenant Colonel involved. He loves that rank. Yeah. So then it just kind of snowballs from there. A Lieutenant Colonel goes to the Pentagon, goes to the president. She's right back to Rush. There we go. I think it's very clear to me looking at this, looking at these little fingerprints, looking at like, why didn't you bring up any of these? The first Lieutenant Colonel when you were talking to Mike. Yeah, none of this makes sense at all, but it does make sense if you see it as Alex losing
Starting point is 01:15:49 track of his own escalating bullshit about Rush Limbaugh. And now he's chosen to turn it into an active lie. Yeah, what was just a subconscious raising the stakes on Sunday is now is when he gets in on Monday, like a very conscious decision to make up sources. Yeah, absolutely. So Alex doesn't want to get into business on the show. It's hard. Yeah, working is difficult, Dan. He's just like fucking talking about cheeseburgers. Well, exactly serendipity. Sometimes it's really serious things. Sometimes it's really ridiculous things. This morning I had to go to the bank after I met the office a few hours and I was coming back here and I said, you know, I want to double water burger, cheeseburger is my breakfast. I'm going to be bad today. Oh no, were there any
Starting point is 01:16:37 good jobs there? And I was riding up there with our office manager and he goes, you know, I can tell you're stressed out today. I already called ahead and as we pull into the office, Pat Riley's waiting at the office door with the double cheeseburger. What? Serendipity. What do you call that? Gross. Gross. I was going to call it gross. I gotta assume that they're like there's something that the other people would know. Yeah. That Alex is in a bad mood. First of all, and then second that the way to deal with that is give him a cheeseburger for breakfast. Yep. Yep. Yep. Both of these things are very weird personality. Keep the little baby quiet. We'll give you we'll give you a cheeseburger. Put that in your mouth so you don't yell. These are very strange personality
Starting point is 01:17:26 quirks that I would find interesting in like a screen play. Yeah, but as Alex Jones features very weird, very weird. Yeah. Look, Alex is in a bad place. Let's give him a double cheeseburger for breakfast. It is. It is unfortunate when you're like oh a lot of places they bring in donuts and we all get to share them. Stop it here. We just get the boss a cheeseburger. Well, he told him to stop it with that. That's true, but he did appreciate it. He did appreciate it. So Alex has these sources and he wants you to know that he's not making them up, which makes me think he's making the money making the money and the way he acts here in this next clip made me very convinced this isn't true because that's a true story. I just told you about two one retired one
Starting point is 01:18:11 currently serving in a specific sensitive area of the military, not told to tell me this, just telling me this. And that's like God saying you need to talk about that. So obviously I am at the bottom of the hour at the bottom. Yeah. Yeah. Right now though, I got to talk about a deal. I got to deal with the cheeseburger in my belly. Two things are really important to remember based on how this narrative starts. The first is that a couple days ago he talked to the first lieutenant colonel and then Monday morning he talked to the second right and in that clip he says explicitly they weren't told to tell him this right. They just told him this. Those two things will be very important later. Okay. So I'm stressing this very hard. Okay. So these two
Starting point is 01:19:01 independently of each other right and their commanding officers. Yeah, they both gave him the same information within a couple days of this Monday. This is this is two depositions. This is a slam dunk eyewitness case. We're going to close it out. Everybody knows the truth. Yeah. So we get to this next clip and I honestly think that this is one of the points where I'm as close to like. All right, Alex Fairpoint is we're going to get Trump comes out when the stock market drops 15% and says the media's response in hysteria is a hoax not the virus is a hoax but the super end of the world hyping of it is a hoax which which is true to hurt the economy. I'm not saying I agree with Alex right but also by the by I'd like to know if you know Trump is saying that the media
Starting point is 01:19:55 hysteria is a hoax right. What it where it is calling it over for humanity fall on that spectrum who boy. Trump call that a hoax. Anyway, as far as Trump's comment goes this was something that he said at a rally in South Carolina when talking about the virus he said quote they tried the impeachment hoax that was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything. They tried it over and over they've been doing it since you got in it's all turning they lost it's all turning think of it think of it and this was their new hoax. His language was intentionally kind of unclear because he's an asshole dumb dumb who likes to just talk shit. Yeah, he was forced to clarify what he
Starting point is 01:20:37 met the next day because the first US citizen died from the virus and he basically said that people saying that he's not doing a good job are the hoax he's referring to. Of course, of course. So cool. His point is that anybody critiquing his actions as the head of state are engaged in hoax if what they say is not flattering could not be clear what point we're at as a society right. I'm frustrated by the fact that it does seem like everybody in America has just decided to like skip over shit that Trump says like like we just you just like zonk out whenever he says shit because if any president said this out loud the rest of the like we we'd all be like this is fucking insane. Yeah, this is insane. Yep. This is absolutely crazy. Yep. So obviously Biden's
Starting point is 01:21:20 going to be doing this next year. So the part that I said like introducing the clip I said it's close to being like a fair point to Alex and that's because there are a bunch of people who took this comment that Trump made and said that he was saying the virus itself was a hoax and I think those people are doing a terrible job. Yeah, like Joe Biden said quote the president of the United States says it's a hoax. It's hard to believe even for him. It's hard to believe Bloomberg said quote I find it incomprehensible that the president would do something as an as calling it a hoax. The Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe said that Trump quote said the coronavirus was a hoax. Politico's headline reads quote Trump rallies his base to view
Starting point is 01:21:59 coronavirus as a hoax which is really on the cusp of being off base. The article makes it clear that some of the context is there and how unclear Trump was being but these are unforced errors that people should not be making. It's super appealing and fun to jump on everything Trump says and dunk around but if you act like this it just creates ammunition for people like Alex to further insulate their side for any kind of outside information. Yeah, it would be hard to paste the media with fake news if they weren't so shitty at their jobs. Most of the not all of the media but not all of the media but there are there are instances like this that are really like destructive. Yeah, absolutely and for people who are running for president on the
Starting point is 01:22:36 Democratic side to not be more precise with their language. I'm not saying it's the worst thing in the world but the point that Alex is making. I can't really refute that people did say that he said the virus itself was a hoax right and that's a problem and on the other hand you know it wouldn't be so believable if it weren't something that he would he could have said like very easily or is that he's not paying attention to what he says ever so he might have you know yeah in one word change and he probably you know he would have said it like it's it's just stupid yeah it's stupid yeah but because Alex has these things that he can point to as like examples that are like well yeah I mean a bunch people did right get that nuance wrong he can use that to make other
Starting point is 01:23:25 criticisms about the media media that are absurd right way the media split it now they've been somewhat successful to control media and making it two different discussions it's either totally a hoax and nothing's happening which we know that's not the case there's a real virus there how deadly it is you can debate or it's the end of the world as mainstream media shank this is cockamamie bullshit yep the media has not split it into a thing where you either believe that it is a hoax or you think it's the end of the world Alex is just making that up because it works into his dumb dumb universal worldview where the globalist strength rate two opposing sides and control both the dialectic that Alex mysteriously sees everything in god Alex sees the world like this so he'll always find a
Starting point is 01:24:09 way to sort the you know he'll see things in that dichotomy even where it doesn't exist also it's good to know that people who say this is the end of the world are considered mainstream media to Alex I did not know that Mike Adams was the mainstream media absolutely you learn something new every day he's a globalist he's using globalist talking points and now he's the mainstream media I do think that we have to confirm now that Mike Adams is a globalist I think so so every time he is on Alex's show Alex is giving a full trade for him for a globalist Alex you are everything that you have come to hate so there is definitely Alex's fake sources saying that three million americans are going to be dead from this their projections any moment so he is amping this
Starting point is 01:24:53 back up that is now like really deadly whereas on sunday it was so much about the supply chain stuff right but he is also still retaining a lot of that supply chain economy fear sure so he gets into that and he's it's both and neither and everything all at the same time it's very convoluted yeah yeah so now he has an argument that he's making that is that the democrats admit that they want the economy to fail in order for trump to go out of course we do and he talks about that here the globalists are unified and are making their move on the economy to bring down trump and now the democrats last week were admitting it saying they hope this brings down trump and they're rooting for it to bring down the economy that should bring them down it's interesting
Starting point is 01:25:36 because i don't know if i've heard democrats in office or major political commentators hoping for the economy to fail because it would hurt trump alex played that cnn clip on sunday but that was just analysis of how democratic candidates can use trump's response to the virus to their political advantage it wasn't cheering for the economy to fail or anything no if you just heard alex's show on monday you'd hear him say that democrats have admitted they want the economy to collapse because it'll take down trump and you'd assume he's talking about some pretty major figures maybe something he played previously you just missed sure because i listen to his show way more than anyone should i can tell you exactly who the democrats are that alex is referring
Starting point is 01:26:14 to it's one person it's bill mar great here's a clip he is not a democrat by the way here's a any sense here's a clip from sunday where he is talking about this there he is salivating i have like five clips that aren't even on my list you all saw him msnbc cnn and this is great well finally getting we're gonna play some of them here here he is on the same show bill mar when he talks that's a globalist mouthpiece so it's like satan's puppet his little sit on his lap uh little uh one of those things ventriloquist dolls this may come as a surprise to you but alex never does play any other clips of democrats salivating and cheering for the collapse to take out trump that does come as a surprise probably because they don't exist or because they're all as lame as that cnn one
Starting point is 01:26:56 yet he does play the bill mar clip is definitely mar saying he wants a recession because it'll get rid of trump and fine fair play to alex for not liking that yeah it's probably dishonest to call mar a democrat though since he's described himself as a libertarian in the past and he voted for bob dole in 1996 and nadir in 2000 also bill also bill mar sucks yeah and is constantly critiqued from the left for very valid reasons like as horrible islamophobia and transphobia it is it is funny like that's how internal consistency makes you immune to certain attacks because they're like you criticize somebody and they're like oh well what about bill mar and you're like yeah fire him into the sun to don't care yeah bill mar sucks he sucks i've noticed a bit of a trend on alex's
Starting point is 01:27:39 show and that's that he'll often claim that the whole liberal media is saying something outrageous and then the only evidence he'll end up presenting is a clip of bill mar talking shit alex will use bill mar to be the avatar of the entirety of the media he's up against i think the reason is the you know because alex's show would look fucking stupid if he was just screaming bloody murder about what bill mar said on hpo yeah it makes alex look like he's actually doing something if he pretends that bill mar really speaks for all of the democrats and all the globalists and that's exactly why you see him expressing at the end of that clip what he does bill mar is the ventriloquist doll for the globalists and thus whenever bill mar says anything alex is free to claim that the globalists and
Starting point is 01:28:20 democrats are actually the ones saying it bill mar may as well be the official corporate spokesman for globalist llc according to alex this is the same behavior we saw earlier earlier with alex laundering sources it would be totally fine for him to just yell his thick neck off about something bill mar said and how it about how it made him angry it would be a sad show but it would be totally fine where it becomes fundamentally dishonest is when he takes the things that bill mar himself has said and then applies them to some other nebulous entity in response to the comments as if that other entity like the democrats or the globalists had actually said it by assuming that bill mar speaks for the globalists and then just taking bill mar out of the equation and saying the globalists
Starting point is 01:29:02 say this thing that bill mar said you're being a dick yeah ultimately alex has multiple high level sources who predict three million dead from the corona virus and the pentagon said it was man made but in reality he just heard a little bit of russia's show the other day the democrats have said they want the country's economy to collapse in order to hurt trump but in reality alex is just mad at bill mar it shows very stupid when you pay attention and you're able to trace these things to where their actual provenance is yeah bill mar is a democrat the way bloomberg is a democrat fuck off fair enough yeah fair enough so now we get a little bit more from those those uh lieutenant kernels that alex has as his sources and all of it all of the information is just no
Starting point is 01:29:43 it's just the same thing as mic okay but mic working off the rush right right i mean i might have an army lieutenant colonel in my house once a year or something um just on some other business that i was doing and taking care of this guy retired about a year ago he's there i had to leave to work he's in there having coffee with my wife she calls me and says hey i don't want to travel anymore he's saying the pentagon thinks three million are going to die with a two percent death rate with with half the country except to get infected and i haven't talked to him yet she was talking to him but the point is that's that's what the pentagon's putting out he said that's what people he talked to they're currently in you know at those higher levels are saying in army
Starting point is 01:30:23 special operations huh isn't that weird how the more details alex gives about this mysterious lieutenant colonel who told him the prediction is three million dead from the coroner fighters the more he talks about it the more it's exactly the same shit that mic adams was saying on his show the day before and it seems so weird so fucking strange that coincidence yeah i was certain that this was just alex laundering mic adams his shit through a fake anonymous source when he said the three million thing but now with the projection that half the population is going to be infected which is exactly what mic said this is comical levels of transparent yep there are two types of lie at play here there are subconscious lies that alex doesn't even really realize he's
Starting point is 01:31:01 engaging in which is the escalation of the rush clip turning into some kind of secret pentagon information then there's this which is an obvious intentional lie i suspect the motive is the same as for the bill marthing alex knows that i'm saying mic adams predicted three million deaths isn't going to move the needle too much mic declared humanity over like a month ago yeah three million deaths is not an escalation of that rhetoric at all in fact from mic that is reassuring yeah no i'm pretty stoked about mic saying that that's like walking back yeah but that means what's really going to happen is like two dudes but if alex presents this as information coming from a mysterious unknown figure who's in the know he can give it a credibility that he even
Starting point is 01:31:40 knows mic adams doesn't have mostly because he's declared humanity over there is that and because that Ebola cure thing and pretty much the rest of mic adams career yeah these are clear fingerprints of a lie and i can't stress this enough alex knows exactly what he's doing oh yeah that is unbelievable yeah why would you even bother with both an active and retired lieutenant colonel that's so silly and made up sure it's childish it's a childish lie and keep in mind one of them was a couple days ago one was one day morning right and they came of their own volition they weren't told to tell alex yes and in the middle of them was mic adams sure yeah there we go so i think this is really interesting i've noticed something in the past very recently alex has started to play
Starting point is 01:32:25 the good guy music from star wars really we are now into our number two only 245 days left to this unbelievably important historic election he's also he's still playing the imperial march sometimes right but there is a seeding okay all right the good theme all right from star wars so he is listening to us i think 100 percent i don't know maybe there's no other way that you would do it seems weird and maybe there's a decent chance that maybe at other times in the past he's thrown in the good guy theme possible but it's overwhelmed it it's stuck out all right if you are listening play the theme for indiana jones that's what i want to hear oh it'd be great yeah i'd love that so alex now okay one of the big things that the media the mainstream media all those bastards
Starting point is 01:33:16 one of the things they covered about alex in the past week was that he got into a bit of a fight with sebastian gorka there was that and here is where that begins and it turns out it's because of petty reasons they ran into gorka i love tyranny the whale or just gorka the gay whale they ran into him he actually had uh oan thrown out he's just like a royal god he's a guy that got thrown out of the white house for being a phony policy expert he's got stolen valor uh if anybody sells snake oil it's him and uh he just absolutely flips out and just told them oan is not allowed here i am god i am gorka the tyrant whale and look i love britz all day but you know you don't see nondroferage coming over here and telling us um to turn our free speech in really nailed the landing
Starting point is 01:34:11 on that side to turn our free speech in so here's where the feud with gorka begins because i guess he had oan thrown out of cpec i don't know if that happened and i don't care if that happened if it did it's an instance of a guy i dislike taking appropriate measures to police his space which is fine oan had no reason to be at cpec except to disrupt and create publicity stunts which he's been known to lie about weirdly i haven't heard much about that bernie supporter attacking him recently really why is that it seems like that narrative i thought they i thought they pressed charges because it was so obvious that the bernie supporter attacked oan might actually be talking about it on war room and i'm unaware of it that's fair but it certainly is
Starting point is 01:34:49 not uh be uh been a central feature of alex's show it's weird for alex to call gorka a brit i mean he was born in the uk but i think most people more closely associate him with hungry since he's hungarian he lived there he was an advisor to victor orban sure he identifies with the hungarian nazi order of vetez okay and supported the paramilitary hungarian guard sounds like a brit to me which was banned by the e you because their activity was deemed to be quote based on racial conflict between the hungarian majority and the roma minority that's why brexit happened they had to get out of the e you to support gorka their fellow compatriot i think at least in terms of the present day sebastian gorka is far more notable as a hungarian than as a
Starting point is 01:35:32 brit even though he does have citizenship in both countries i would even go so far as to say he's far more notable just as a nazi the end uh yeah anyway alex also calls gorka a gay whale i don't understand is he referencing leviathan is that what he's doing i've heard him use that insult in the past and i'm sure the backstory is disappointing but i'm not sure exactly what it is i actually later on he does explain that he just thinks that gorka sachet is around the whale part i'm not entirely sure he never explains he just thinks gorka's gay i don't know it's it's petty childhood yeah like a schoolyard homophobia it's offensive yeah yeah see ever since trump came around with low energy jeb and little marco alex has been trying to make playground insult stick to his
Starting point is 01:36:15 enemies and he's just not very good at it i suspect this is just one of those weird attempts yeah so alex goes on he jumps into another topic and that is he spends a good bit of time on this march second episode talking about turkish president erdogan announcing that he would allow refugees and migrants to cross the border from turkey into europe i would cover this but this situation is immensely complicated and i do not trust myself to handle it well yeah i wanted to mention it though just because it's a huge international situation and it's something that should be paid attention to but we're not going to talk about it too much mostly because alex's only real analysis of it is that muslims are basically animals and the people in gree should be able
Starting point is 01:36:56 to shoot them at the border it's horrible stuff and it's very standard alex fair just with erdogan's actions being pretext for him to hit his normal anti islam talking points here's a little clip of alex and his european reporter dan lyman just to give you a little bit of a taste of where he's at well i want to be clear if someone's trying to burn a building or kill people people need to use legal forces stop laying down to this because they fully break the border they're going to have islam totally take over europe people don't know you live there i mean most of the cities are now no-go zone hell pits yes even some of the cities that you would never expect are starting to turn that way so i mean i recommend if you come to go to the really safe countries i
Starting point is 01:37:35 always say this go to poland go to hungary they don't have any corona yet either white nationalist countries so if i understand correctly poland and hungary of the safe countries as you uh pointed out and as we know poland is treated as the uh basically the promised land by white nationalists these days especially malinu i'm not mistaken so that's uh that's cool world population review compiles crime rates by countries for the world by simply dividing reported crimes by the total population switzerland estonia austria croatia denmark the chic republic romania and the netherlands all have crime rates uh that are lower by this measure than poland or hungary germany is lower than hungary and alex scales about germany letting in immigrants all the time
Starting point is 01:38:14 there's clearly a secondary message being sent by lineman's country recommendations it's just that poland is the archetype of a white nationalist state uh two white nationalist yeah and hungary's leader victor orban is a very public enemy of george soros so this section of the fringe right wing have adopted him as kind of a hero i wish there was deeper analysis in this here but yeah it's really kind of just that simple yeah if i understand what i've read again it's a massively complicated situation but a large part of it is basically urdogan threatening government leaders that he'll make your racist mad at you like that's a certain to a certain extent he's like i'm going to let immigrants into your country and then your racists are going to be mad at you i think that
Starting point is 01:38:58 if you don't want that i think that there is a reading of the the situation that falls on those lines yeah i mean again way more complicated than that but that is a big part of it yeah and i would engage with it more probably if alex had more to do than just be sure white nationalist yeah yeah exactly and so he starts riffing around a little bit about how you know like islam's trying to make him bow and he's not gonna and then he kind of loses his thought in the middle which is always kind of fun i don't want to go to their countries and blow them up i just do them coming here to enslave me and tell me i'm going to submit to their sword no you will never make us submit and the west is awake there's a lot of things i can say about the high quality storeable food
Starting point is 01:39:43 we sell it in full there it is got caught off by the break for his own commercial yep just the way he's really fumbling the ball at the end this is not good no he's not he's not closing he's not a closer today not really so you know with this idea that there's a lot of muslims that are going to be coming into europe alex gets really thinking about the crusades no no no so he starts talking about how first of all christians had to do the crusade no no they didn't you're not help you don't know had to lead the attack with the with the normans and the french and and go four five thousand three thousand miles in and just millions died folks holding europe millions it's estimated that just some of the crusades in a decade were millions you mean you talk about wars back then
Starting point is 01:40:31 were almost no men have millions because the muslims would take over enslave kill the men breed with the european women and make more soldiers and so they had to western europe had to invade we've talked a bit in the past about how off base alex is about the crusade so i don't want to really rehash a lot of that stuff in detail but i wanted to take a moment to talk about the claim he has there about millions dying in single there weren't millions it's not estimated that millions died in individual crusades and in fact there's no real historical consensus for the death toll generally speaking the accepted range among scholars is somewhere between one and three million for the entire span of the crusades which i should remind you lasted from 1095 to 1291 yeah
Starting point is 01:41:15 that's 196 years and because it's something that happened over such a long period of time so long ago and such a wide area most serious scholars don't even think it's worthwhile to try and nail down precise numbers it would just be impossible yeah with that being said there's no way alex's numbers are even close to accurate leaving aside the fact that the three million figure includes combatants from both sides not just alex beloved christian crusaders but let's take that high-end estimate of three million deaths from the crusades and let's compare it to other world events and see how it stacks up if you look at the list of the most deadly wars in human history you'll notice that most of them involved china in the long-distant past 25 million died in the
Starting point is 01:41:56 manchu conquest between 1618 and 1683 which led to the rise of the qi shing dynasty deeper in the past the three kingdoms conflict between 182 and 280 left over 37 million dead in china i'm a huge joe fan by the way is that right yeah they were my pick in the in the war of the three kings i like playing dynasty warriors these were both you're real ching guys that would you i'm a lu buu guy these were both internal matters and didn't involve white people so alex isn't too concerned about those not worried so but also for comparison like maybe we should look at how many deaths were caused by the european colonization of the american continent none a recent study from the university college london reflects a death toll of approximately 56 million people barely which was just a gigantic
Starting point is 01:42:44 shift in in the world it was so big actually that it caused a little ice age no because about 90 percent of the indigenous population was killed either by conflict or disease this left quote vast tracts of agricultural land being left unattended which quote soaked up enough carbon dioxide from the atmosphere to actually cool the planet with the average temperature dropping by 0.15 degrees celsius anyway my larger point here is not that europeans are so much worse than most loams or anything like that i don't think that's a productive way to think about things my point is that history is full of atrocity there's plenty to go around and it's not good to imagine that people today are exactly the same as people you've decided are their historical analog the sins of
Starting point is 01:43:26 the past should be recognized grappled with the victims respected and lessons should be learned selective finger pointing about various things that happened like 800 years ago is not a path forward yeah and that seems to be what alex is stuck in the thing that i immediately took away that was like this is the beginning of your sentence was they had to march three four thousand miles to protect their borders and it's like that's the thought process that is why we have so many fucked up wars and shit like that you they have to they have to march three or four thousand miles to protect the borders three or four thousand miles away from where they are that does not track that's insane and that's a very minor piece of what's wrong about a lot of this no
Starting point is 01:44:13 absolute absolutely but i mean it's just like a glaring immediacy of shut the fuck up right now yeah you're done so we're selling food of course still gotta and there's an update on this the food we have you actually get five to eight weeks depending on what type you order now five quality and you got that checkbox taken care of but all the other products at info war store dot com are in stock we drop ship from utah and their other factories in colorado and other areas across the country this horrible food but if it is the super silver wound gel the strongest over the counter you can get or it's the super silver toothpaste that's safe and effective for your mouth and knocks those viruses a bacteria out so it's it's close it's close yep but it's a
Starting point is 01:45:02 vaguer yeah alex is dancing around it a little bit more whereas those viruses and bacteria out saying and he was it's non specific yep and it's a toss away kind of thing as opposed to where it be such a direct focus the pentagon says that this does this not just like oh it helps with viruses so food is now five to eight weeks cheese so this is just escalating wow now another thing that's interesting is that alex has to make a real serious point of our other products are not six to eight yes he does that multiple times so sure because i think he's realized that like i i i think some of his listeners think that everything is right that back ordered i'm getting i'm getting stuck in a in a tulip situation where maybe my entire economy shouldn't be built around
Starting point is 01:45:49 one thing maybe maybe the food is is not going to be a big seller after a while so so alex take some calls now and i might have honestly ignored some of the stuff like the crusades thing sure except it kind of informs the mindset that these callers appear to be in oh no here is a guy saying something really fucked up i think what what uh president trump needs to do he needs to act like charles the hammer martel from france and just whenever whenever the muslims just invaded spain he said no you're not coming into europe and went into spain and and just thrashed them and actually ordered his troops take no prisoners these people are just even idiots wipe them out it's all good and well for this caller to say that trump should be like charles martel and
Starting point is 01:46:43 repellent invasion the hammer i think maybe if you're looking for some ancient example of someone who repelled an invasion you could come up with a better example probably super easily martel was duke and prince of the francs from 718 to 741 and in that period of time he gained a reputation as a pretty good military leader with wars against the arabes as well as the saxons this is not why the caller is referencing him throughout history there's been some disagreement among historians about a particular victory in martel's career that is his defeat of an arab army advancing on tour in uh 732 one side argues that it was martel's victory that saved the western world from muslim rule the other side points out that the earliest account of the battle which was commissioned
Starting point is 01:47:27 by martel's uncle clearly lays out that this arab army had been enlisted by a christian duke named yudo of aquitaine to help him win back some of the land that had been taken by martel this was spanish land that was taken by martel and he had a most scary army all right all right why why would they be mad at me so i would they're making me there's no indication from contemporary sources at that time that this was a battle between islam and christendom that's something that was fabricated later uh i wonder why the narrative began in a book called decline and fall of the roman empire by edward gibbon released in 1776 in the book gibbon argues that the roman empire fell due to embrace and christianity which is not a position that most historians agree with leaving that
Starting point is 01:48:13 central thesis aside his book also serves as the jumping off point for the retelling of the battle of tour with his casting of martel as a heroic leader who stopped islam from overtaking the western world this was not a case of gibbon reflecting actual history it was him using a historical event to craft a narrative and it's a narrative that's been widely attractive to a certain subset of the population today what kind in 2001 a multimillionaire fascist heir to the regnery uh publishing fortune william regnery jr founded the charles martel society whose founding members also included arch white nationalist jared taylor this is a white nationalist outlet that runs the very racist and anti-semitic occidental observer and was responsible for the founding
Starting point is 01:48:58 of the national policy institute whose president is richard spencer hey through these outlets and other ventures regnery funds with grants a message of white nationalism and brutal anti muslim rhetoric has been spread quite effectively he's far from the only spoke in that wheel but william regnery jr is a massive source of funding behind some of the early sources of what has become the alt right in this modern cycle yeah this isn't just some kind of intellectual publishing thing though you know like hey we talk about ideas this has real world consequences as we're seeing during the christ church shooting where the killer had written the name charles martel on the barrel of the gun he used to murder 51 innocent people this twisted historical narrative about martel
Starting point is 01:49:40 began with gibbon in 1776 and avowed bigots and fascists have turned him into a heroic figure using this narrative in their pantheon that's why this caller knows who charles martel is not because he's a scholar of frankish dukes yeah it's because he knows about him from the christ church shooter and the places where the christ church shooter was reading about him from i was really trying not to stereotype because listening to the voice you're like okay i've heard i've heard cletus i i get that you know i'm not trying to be that guy but when he dropped martel in there i was like something suspicious is going on here yeah he reads alt right fascist anti muslim blogs that that lion eyes and and hero worship charles martel because of this
Starting point is 01:50:28 distorted narrative of this battle from 17 or i'm sorry 732 white nationalists have so many little coded things that they drop in yeah that you would just miss immediately if you weren't in their ecosphere that's that's one of them and actually the next caller gives another one yeah see merkel's a big uh proprietor of the collergy plan and folks who don't know about the collergy plan he was uh austrian-hungarian empire royalty married into what japanese royalty and he had a plan to his lamify europe yep when you hear somebody vote the collergy plan you know absolutely without a doubt that that person that you're talking to is a white nationalist the collergy plan is a classic white nationalist conspiracy theory that posits that austral-hungarian intellectual
Starting point is 01:51:15 richard von kudin kudin hoff collergy had a secret plan to replace the white people in europe with non your non white immigrants and that the e u is the final expression of this plan basically as the theory goes these immigrants would have no intrinsic relationship to the countries they were living in and thus they would be less likely to fight back against the formation of a one world government that would usurp individual countries to support this theory proponents tend to pick and choose various things from all of collergy's writings to craft a white genocide conspiracy for instance he believed that quote the man of the future will be of mixed race this was a belief that he had based on the sense that prejudice will decrease over time and the people of different
Starting point is 01:51:56 races will ultimately form families together more in the future true this is not him saying that he wants to force races to intermarry or that there's anything nefarious behind his beliefs at all it's sincerely just a sentiment that can only really be seen as scandalous if you're a person who's opposed to races intermarrying like i don't know nick fuentes yeah miscegenation right the rub comes because collergy was also a big proponent of a united europe as he advanced in his work his work pan europa it's probably important to recognize that this text was written and published between world war one and world war two so some of the utopian idealism of a peaceful united europe might have been a direct response to the horror of the first world war the brief
Starting point is 01:52:39 version of this conspiracy theory is basically just white nationalist combining collergy's advocacy for a united europe with his belief that the future of man uh is uh being mixed race there uh these are combined uh to argue that he wanted to unite europe in order to bring in tons of non-white people who would then create this desired future of everyone being mixed race and there would be no more white people oh also proponents of this conspiracy believe collergy was doing this on behalf of the jews there we go we got bingo right it is amazing to me how bad the plans of the masterminds are in their world view it's almost like they're the dumb ones making up the plan yeah strange much like evoking charles martel this caller bringing up the collergy plan is a fingerprint
Starting point is 01:53:25 of a very extreme right white nationalist being on the phone that's what this is an indication of these are subtle signifiers that people listening might or might not catch on to but indicate that the conversation that's being had is not about current events it's about a conspiracy theory that says jews are trying to force integration on white people and it seems like alex was familiar with the collergy not only familiar with it he is into it yeah so yeah you can see where alex's heads and remember we went so long ago when we were like oh i'm not sure if i want to call him and out now white nationalists yet yeah those were oh those were the salad days dan yeah three years ago was an interesting period yeah now you know you live and you learn you do so alex has complained
Starting point is 01:54:09 about the the whale lorka earlier in this episode and that was to set up that towards the end of the episode he would have oan shroyer and harrison smith come in to talk about their experience being kicked out of cpaq by gorka course so we'll get to that in a second but before we do oan shows that he is a brilliant political mind okay he makes a prediction about the democratic primary that has not aged well here we go but bloomberg hasn't dropped out if i'm if i'm not mistaken i think bloomberg is is is the front runner to me he's got the money he's not going to go away he's got the will i don't think anyone else has the will smash cut to bloomberg dropping out getting out very soon oh man what was it the next day i think it might have been the fourth
Starting point is 01:54:57 yeah i'm not entirely sure but it was very close to yeah yeah so gorka apparently ran cpaq according to alex course i want to go out to break with a short clip of a compilation we're going to play of who we learned ran cpaq as like a police dog that marched up and down from the 70s saying remove them remove them when you talk about a villain i introduce to you gorka the titan gorka the titan of tyranny so the entire story is that gorka came up to the info wars people who were filming at cpaq and said they shouldn't be there since they're lunatics and conspiracy theorists maybe he got them thrown out i have no idea but at least the footage that alex plays i don't i don't know if it shows that anyway this spirals out of control into alex being convinced
Starting point is 01:55:42 that gorka was the neocon watchdog roaming the halls throwing out anyone who dares the neocon status quo of cpaq which again included three members of trump's family as speakers yeah this is just alex being alex he knows gorka has a huge radio show that's indicated on salem media and is on way way more stations than alex is gorka is someone who actually did work in the trump administration and is directly connected to power as opposed to alex who's just constantly shunned and kept far past an arm's distance just like alex tried to bait joe rogan into giving him free press by calling him a sneaky snake and trying to start a one-sided feud with him he's trying to do the same thing with gorka alex knows that if gorka takes the bait and starts
Starting point is 01:56:24 responding to alex on his own show that's the equivalent of free marketing to a broader audience than alex has access to this stuff is just pathetically transparent and if you pay attention alex doesn't seem to start feuds with people he doesn't have a possibility of getting free press attention from joe rogan sebastian gorka brian stelter these are all people have platforms he can hope to co-opt this is one of his big strategies and if i were advising gorka i would tell him to ignore this it just doesn't uh doesn't matter i mean in this circumstance you giant troll don't feed the trolls yeah yeah so alex uh thinks that gorka wanted to kick infors out because they sell supplements as opposed to them being crazy lunatics sure sure so alex expresses that here
Starting point is 01:57:07 and gorka says yeah you shouldn't be here because you sell supplements well gorka is on tv selling supplements that actually don't look that bad but the point is we don't sell what now pain relief supplements i mean you're starting to get in the snake oil area there when you're making those claims so i went and checked gorka's website for his uh show america first and the first thing that jumped out at me was the fact that he has ads for my pillow on his site sure my pillow runs add on ads on alex's show through genesis communications networks that's one literal uh same sponsor right right right sounds like snake oil pillows the main ad on his site for supplements is for a company called balance of nature this company legitimately just sells dietary supplements like they have a
Starting point is 01:57:51 product called fruits here's the product ingredient list for fruits apples quote aloe vera apple banana blueberry cherry cranberry grape grapefruit lemon mango orange papaya pineapple raspberry strawberry tomato sounds like snake oil so they just put a bunch of fruit in a blender yeah and then turn it into a gummy yep oh no just a pill oh just a pill okay here there's one there's one called veggies and another one called fiber and spices but honestly unless they're lying on their ingredient lists this is all just natural things ground up into a pill form and none of them are making health claims except the fiber one which says that it helps with digestive health which i think is not an irresponsible thing to suggest for a fiber pill yeah i think everybody knows that fiber
Starting point is 01:58:33 helps yeah alex is specifically referring here to another ad that gorka has on his site i think the balance of nature is the one that he's like actually looks pretty good that sounds right yeah it's just a bunch of fruit and a pill yeah that sounds it sounds almost futuristic we're in logan's run kind of situation so this other one is an ad that gorka has for a product called relief factor which they claim can quote help your body reduce pain associated with aging exercise and everyday living this is mostly attributed to the antioxidant anti-inflammatory properties of its ingredients which are icorin tumeric resveratol resveratrol excuse me and omega-3s i decided to check out infowars store and see if alex sold these same things and how he sold them one thing that surprised
Starting point is 01:59:18 me is that i knew that alex sold a supplement called icorin but i went to look at it and that product doesn't contain icorin it's spelled differently icorin is spelled i c a r i i n and alex's product is spelled i c u r e n it's very weird uh okay it seems like this is a clear attempt to make people think that this product contains icorin which is also sold in gas station bathrooms under the name horny goatweed i love it yeah i have no idea why alex would name his product something so close to something that is the name of a really well known supplement unless you was trying to confuse people but i have no idea all right that icorin product doesn't contain icorin i don't know that's frustrating i i assume there's something is
Starting point is 02:00:00 did you look up whether or not that was a thing what icorin yeah yeah no no not the the the one alex the alex spelling no oh it's just a name it's just a oh the name of the okay yeah yeah it's a bunch of different like herbs or gotcha i thought that there was a completely different herb named icorin no okay alex's main turmeric product is bodies in the write up for bodies it says the product contains things that are quote known for their anti-inflammatory properties to work synergistically with turmeric for full body support the write up says it will quote help boost and support your flexibility mobility joint function immune system and even more that honestly sounds pretty similar to the relief factor marketing yeah that's that's such the
Starting point is 02:00:42 that's a put-up on your copywriter who's like what okay give me some specs on what this product does fucking nothing all right i'll put synergistically in there and we'll nail it it's a good word sold dna force contains resveratrol and that product is sold to quote help support heart function cellular energy production assist in boosting mental health promote energy production and more they say the product can help fight against things causing cellular damage which could be painful so this again seems right in the ball there there we know that alex sells omega threes in the form of his ultimate fish oil and we know it's good because it gives alex the burpees if you read the copy for ultimate fish oil this line jumps out at you quote studies have suggested
Starting point is 02:01:24 that fish oils and fish oil supplementation can slightly lower blood pressure increase triglyceride levels decrease the growth rate of plaque and provide a soothing reduction in inflammatory responses in joints reducing inflammatory responses in joints is the same thing as reducing joint pain wow there is that so this is all pretty close well you're getting close to snake oil with a gorka but but you know what would really suck for alex it would really suck if i had a clip from him from last wednesday where he tries to sell bodies his product by saying that some people think it's better than advil for pain relief there we go that would really make alex look like a dick for saying gorka's a snake oil salesman for selling things for pain relief it's a good thing
Starting point is 02:02:01 you don't have that clip yeah if only i did if only we have the ultimate turmeric formula bodies 95 percent of humanoid that's amazing for immune system your whole body people think it's better than advil in many cases for pain see what it does for you personally that's all 40 percent off go fuck yourself gorka okay you're getting into snake oil territory when you sell things for pain relief yeah the the pot is screaming across the world to the kettle yeah so anyway alex is really just trying to take swings at gorka even when he ends up hitting himself but his audience doesn't don't yeah nobody nobody cares so he even though gorka was in the trump administration and has been in that orbit for a while he's not a trump guy he's a never trump guy trump broke
Starting point is 02:02:46 through the criticism the attacks the black balling but the democrats in the deep state using on everybody else so the republican establishment knows keep alex jones in the populace movement and the liberty movement that got trump elected out don't let them take the party completely over and put people like gorka as the police dog he's not even american in there hovering around literally spouting and pontificating in an arrogant way you guys go ahead and take over gorka became a naturalized u.s citizen in 2012 so unless alex thinks naturalized citizens aren't really americans what he just said it's a lie close the borders yeah i think he thinks the naturalized citizens are not really american i think i would go along with you on that one
Starting point is 02:03:26 so we end this march second episode with the pièce de résistance which of course is alex threatening and challenging gorka to fight him of course which everyone knew was coming it was going to happen no matter it's inevitable yeah we're going to do it for charity or whatever it is we're getting the ring of five rounds now about that now we'll get to enjoy that and that's always fun to hear alex want to fight somebody is he going to fight tom arnold next no but the thing that i think is most notable about this is watch owen schreuer's response to this everyone hates you now when you pose with guns everybody knows you don't know which end the bullet comes out of yeah that gork is a big guy i challenge him to a charity berries buckles boxing match he'll race
Starting point is 02:04:10 i'm serious they'll have it in vegas i will get in that ring and i will beat his brains out to sign the form you big fat tough guy bully i'll smash your freaking head and let's go let's go let's go punk there's nothing but a piece of crap owen you want to take him on i got to get around her too but i might but you got your cardiovascular going you want to challenge him you want to challenge gorka to a charity boxing match because he's so big and powerful and he wants to get in the ring with kooks let's let's see what gorka had to say well why what what what does gorka think about info yeah let's play let's play the report maybe i'm getting like really twisted on my perception about owen schreuer yeah he seems to be acting more like an adult like he does i don't know what
Starting point is 02:04:55 happened something's happened but he has a confidence about him right that maybe wasn't there before if you watch the video of this because i had to go back and check because it sounded like there was an edit there after he says punk it sounded like they cut out something yeah they didn't it's just very weird vocal patterns and if you watch this you can see owen kind of like rolling his eyes even a little bit there is a feeling of elevation above alex's bullshit yeah it's like when a 12 year old has to raise himself as the parents are like very absent and the 12 year old is just like like an alcoholic family yeah exactly yeah yeah now i guess i'm the adult i'm 13 but i guess i have to be an adult now i i i don't know i'm i it's very possible i'm reading way too much into it
Starting point is 02:05:39 owen's response there impressed me on a certain level of let's get let's focus let's get back into this as opposed to being like yeah let's fight him yeah it does it that he seems to be making the choices that aren't fun right but are more adult it it used to be that alex was like that that playground bully and owen was that lacky where the bully would be like hey hey look you you go fight him you go fight him and owen would be like yeah i'll go because owen's identity was wrapped up in being the cook destroyer exactly exactly maybe it's a situation where he went and yelled at jerry nadler he interrupted the impeachment thing and had to go do a hard bid of a of a couple minutes in jail maybe that woke him up maybe that maybe he wrote a letter he did
Starting point is 02:06:25 his nickel dan he did his nickel he's got a he's got he's on he's on parole right now maybe that woke him up to the like possibilities of seriousness or something i don't know what it is but who knows i'm interested to see where it goes daddy's been drunk too many times i could be but in the power rankings if i were making them now i think i am almost ready to adjust it like paul joseph watson down down the chart yeah owen shroyers clearly in the number two yeah yeah yeah he's taken over from stone stone has uh has imparted the war room power yeah yeah he's ascendant yeah so we get to uh the third tuesday's show and alex is now announcing like his coronavirus narrative is just completely got a new one yeah okay and so it this is specifically tailored to
Starting point is 02:07:16 rebut the argument that trump has not done enough and he is poorly prepared okay president trump about four and a half weeks ago ordered the pentagon and fema to prepare a national emergency but he instituted the national emergency in response to coronavirus at that point and the democrats have taken the bait in saying that he did not have any response to it i think he's had a very measured response he's not said that the virus is a hoax he said the hysteria by the chikoms of the media is a hoax i have literally no idea what alex is talking about no he doesn't cite any sources on this and i don't believe his pentagon ship based on a very strong contention that he was just riffing about rush but now here alex is reporting on his show that trump
Starting point is 02:08:07 secretly instituted a national emergency over a month ago as always yeah as always he secretly instituted the thing that we needed just because we didn't hear about it doesn't mean he didn't do it this is super weird because on march 3rd voice of america reported on trump discussing a potential national emergency saying quote i don't think you'll need that because i really think we're in extremely good shape we're prepared for anything and we can always do that at a later date if we need it trump definitely hasn't declared a national emergency publicly or secretly alex is making this shit up he's just working off a headline in the hill quote fema preparing for trump emergency declaration on coronavirus report this article is about how and tell the president declares a
Starting point is 02:08:49 national emergency fema is not allowed to do things like quote creating disaster medical assistance teams mobile hospitals and military transport there's a separate budget for fema that they have for disaster situations it's a full 34 billion dollars right now and they're not they're literally not allowed to use it unless trump declares a national emergency these things aren't happening such as fema setting up mobile hospitals and cracking into that 34 billion so there's a strong indication that no secret emergency declaration has been made but alex has read that headline not the article yeah so he's using the headline great good work so this also good work the hill yeah this is not the same thing as a public health emergency that was declared
Starting point is 02:09:33 by health and human services secretary alex azar back on january 31st this was primarily to quote give state tribal and local health departments more flexibility to request that hhs authorized them to temporarily reassign state local and tribal personnel to respond to 2019 novel coronavirus if their salaries normally are funded in whole or in part by public health service act programs that's almost certainly what alex is conflating with this hill headline he's skimmed and now he's turned that into a narrative that trump secretly declared an emergency back at the end of january and he's got this whole thing under control alex is not what you'd call a details guy no not important to him so now it's really important to recognize that this is now a month ago
Starting point is 02:10:17 because that'll come into play of course i know i'm asking you to keep in mind a number of various things in a timeline there is a lot it's important because it'll all come together okay so alex brings back up his uh fake lieutenant kernels and apparently this uh bio weapon is uh race specific again i could see that being a comedy central show fake lieutenant kernels yeah but i've talked to several uh current and retired lieutenant kernels that have been in intelligence and are in intelligence they believe the FEMA believes homeland security believes cdc believes that about half the public will get the virus will be exposed to it and that the death rates at about one and a half to two percent we're looking at three million or so dead but see when you add
Starting point is 02:11:00 into it that's very specific well what percentage of america is what you'd call asian so i guess it's very specific again i thought alex had dropped that narrative but i guess it's back oh wow so now we're in now three million okay i don't know what you say i have no idea what that means in response to this i would ask him to explain the thirty eight hundred or so cases in italy are those all chinese italians all of them race specific i would ask about the forty seven hundred or so cases in iran but i'm sure he'd just make some weird race science argument about persian and chinese genes being similar the same thing yeah yeah yeah there's no out no there's no reason for alex to be reporting that this virus is race specific that is pure and simple
Starting point is 02:11:39 just an expression of his racism there's nothing else going on yeah so alex clearly is using this hill article that is about how fema has funding that they can't use until there's an emergency declaration which by the way trump has already secretly done right now he didn't do anything with it but he secretly did declare he hasn't done that okay because these things aren't being done well yet there you would say that right but what you see what you need to understand is it's what people don't do it's jazz tells you what they are doing like jazz baby hey it's the cpa man and we talked to other sources confirmed from the pentagon and from the white house that they've declared a secret emergency in the federal government in the agencies that would need to be
Starting point is 02:12:24 deal with that but not to create a panic a month ago well that's in the news today fema preparing for possible coronavirus emergency declaration no it's already in place no it's not anyway mike adams comes back in hooray so i know from listening to this that this entire narrative about these lieutenant kernels is just laundering stuff that mike said on alex's show right now mike is on and they discuss these fake sources what no you can't do that it's an oroboro you guys are making it up it's crazy you talked about this on your show yesterday you you know uh i was a military intelligence person who told you they are preparing for the possibility of millions of i got a call over the weekend from a current lieutenant colonel really good guy an army
Starting point is 02:13:08 special operation so it's actually you know at the tip of the spear again over the weekend yeah couple days ago yep and they're like no they believe it's a two percent kill rate and they're telling us get ready for three million dead so you know this is not a hoax the virus is real we don't want to panic though but we need people to obviously know that this is real because they kind of want the hardcore patriots to you know up that are serious people to know um for whatever reason that i obviously i wasn't called and told this but on on on his own volition over telephone they was ordered to do it and then no he wasn't he wasn't ordered to do it lieutenant colonel he was in army special operations um at my house with some business we were conducting i'll just leave it
Starting point is 02:13:49 at you were eating you were drinking coffee he was there with my wife and she calls up going hey uh you know uh well it says name you know kelly saying that the he hears from people they think it's gonna be three million so so the pentagon really thinks it's three million i don't believe that this were real alex would ever say this person's name this is just a random nonsense yeah but you see the first contradiction of the original form of this narrative yeah now instead of it just being these people uh of their own volition telling alex this they were commanded to because the higher ups want to make sure that the hardcore patriot people like alex know what's up because uh when it's coming down they're going to need them prepared or something yeah so now it's ordered
Starting point is 02:14:31 this is official chain of command stuff which is a direct contradiction of the earlier thing that's one of the reasons why i insisted you keep uh keep that in mind because it's it's just a clear cut case of this being bullshit i you should keep your writers room off air your writers room shouldn't be the show right you shouldn't be workshopping your bullshit in front of me it makes me angry yeah yeah it it it makes this really transparent yeah as long as you're paying attention over a couple days you'll notice these shifts start to happen and you're like wait you're just making all this up yep so anyway alex is really mad about the media engaging in hysteria bill mar there's all this hysteria surrounding the virus and again i would say that mike adam saying it's
Starting point is 02:15:18 over for humanity there's only going to be alone survivors is about as hysterical as you can you say that and uh mike engages in a little more hysteria here well remember too early on i said that china would begin harvesting this and actually trying to deposit it into cities across america i think we we've already been under attack i think that some of these outbreaks that we're seeing are because china was trying to export the virus so you could say it's over for humanity so how is that not hysteria no it's an attack we've always been under attack these viruses in the united states of course attack us well that's not hysteria that's just that's just clear eyed political analysis that's hysterical global political analysis yeah so we see another
Starting point is 02:16:04 shift in the narrative and the timeline here in this next clip with mike and alex talking is one of my concerns alex that that there may be so many cities under lockdown and quarantine by the time we get to election day that there will be calls from the democrats to postpone the election because not enough democrats can't participate by the way you said that three weeks ago and then now this week that's in the news they're already going oh well this effect did he say that three weeks ago did he say that on sunday he did say that on sunday you're right okay all right three weeks ago he did say it was over for humanity there'll be only alone survivors so they get done at their interview at stupid who gives a ship i want to
Starting point is 02:16:43 talk about this but i don't want to get into it alex has tommy robinson on uh on the show in 2020 and we're not going to cover this interview because i i'm not going to engage with the story that's being told good on march second tommy was arrested for common assault after witnesses say he punched a guy in the face at a public pool tommy claims that the man had assaulted his eight-year-old daughter and he was restraining the man the reason i won't engage with this story is because generally speaking i don't trust tommy robinson at all he's been shown to be a very inconsistent untrustworthy source he's a bad faith actor yeah but this is way too sensitive of a story to have a position on or to comment on and in reality i do not know what happened
Starting point is 02:17:26 yeah i and i refuse to be involved i'm good with that their interview alex and tommy is disgusting and honestly it's one of the first times in recent memory that i literally felt sick to my stomach listening to this show if tommy is lying that's grotesque if tommy is telling the truth he's allowing his own child's trauma to be used by alex to attack muslims and drag queen story hour and i can't handle either possibility no matter what the reality is it's gross exploitation alex plays a clip of tommy interviewing his daughter who again is eight years old on his show it's disgusting these people are psychopaths it's supremely offensive as is the way alex uses this to try and sell his products but you see why they want planetary control to carry out their evil
Starting point is 02:18:14 desires against our children it's not just the muslims that want to do this it's it's the global it's at every level and it's just it's just evil incarnate on this planet so please remember you're the only defense of the children and when you support info or by spreading the word and by praying for us by buying the products you make it all possible and you need to get the products we have it's just unbelievable like it's one of the first times in a very long time that i have legitimately felt like i felt like i might throw up listening to it it was it was a level of like no matter what the reality is here this cannot be acceptable i how does it keep happening i tell you that there's no bottom and then this happens and i'm like yeah that i thought i didn't
Starting point is 02:19:03 even think that was a line to cross yeah there's no bottom no so i don't like i said i'm i'm not involved in that at all out fuck off but i do need to have told you that this happened right because it puts alex in a fucked up headspace yeah because of this conversation that he's had with tommy he is just in a fucking mode where he's talking about god yeah he is deeply disturbed for a little bit in this episode and he starts off that stretch by talking about how he loves how attacked he is i was thinking this morning i thought right after i worked out took a shower i thought should i tell the globalist how much i've enjoyed their persecution
Starting point is 02:19:56 how much it's made me stronger how i thank god for allowing that to happen will that make them persecute me even more and i think the only way to tell the story is just to tell the story about the thought i don't know but i haven't enjoyed the things that have happened but then i do enjoy them later if you're only way of feeling like validated or like you're doing a good job is buy a tax that happened against you you create a negative reward system yeah you incentivize yourself to do things that will elicit negative responses from people because you'll experience those negative responses as if you're doing a good job you're on the right track it's just the only way i get dopamine is
Starting point is 02:20:50 when people hate me yeah it's a it's a real fucked up way and it's it's i mean it's a childish system that people can get trapped in and i understand and sometimes a lot of times people getting like a trapped in that without knowing that that is the the feedback loop that they're in sure and oftentimes it takes therapy to be able to recognize these patterns and and transcend them i have a lot of empathy for people who may be well meaning and in that mode but alex is not he is he needs help yeah anyway alex starts crying uh talking about god sure of course as long as you trust in god and center your soul with god there's no power the enemy has that has any chance against us well and you're you must totally trust in god and all i can say is i've never asked god for things
Starting point is 02:21:46 when i'm in the presence of god i i i i've heard you ask god for things since i was a little child obviously i'm the presence of god i'm not gonna sit there tell god what to do you've told god what to do on your show spirit comforts you it's so strong and then god says i really don't want to see you hurt but you see what they're doing other people are you ready to really get hurt bad and you say yeah i'm ready to be hurt alex seems jesus it's get a new god bro he's sitting there on the verge of open tears on air talking about how god wants to hurt him for the greater good yeah this is fucked up hey man there's look i i know flagellation went out of went out of style
Starting point is 02:22:40 a long time ago but he's leading the charge to bring it back shit get a fucking cat a nine tails and start whipping your back as well i'm doing this for you yeah exactly yeah absolutely that's jesus these people yeah so it's not only alex that's really into jesus though you can break up with god did you know that it's true yeah it's not hard look it's not just alex though even if alex broke up with god there would still be one person in the info wars fear okay that's super into jesus and that is roger stone okay okay sorry sorry i don't i'm sorry i don't know if you know this but alex actually converted roger give me give me more it's gotta be two years ago i prayed with roger stone in my office
Starting point is 02:23:30 i said give me your hand let's pray to jesus for protection and for strength you talked about to me personally oh please he felt from that and he said it's just amazing you know i i see the religious establishment the corruption and i just think it's all bs but under these attacks i i just i just feel drawn to god and this is real evil we're facing and he he saw the drag queen story times and the pedophilia and just the evil the democrats he's like is it really real there's a lot of people oh oh this evil's coming out it's winning no this is it throwing a fit it had to be covert before this is its temper tantrum roger is like he watches info wars he's like oh my god demons walk among us i uh man that is that i want to inject that
Starting point is 02:24:13 into my veins if you believe that then you can believe anything yeah that's bananas so some people probably like me and you and anyone who uh thanks for at all yeah would say roger is full shit right and you know what even if he has found some sort of a religion in his older age or these crisis that he's in good i'm a good on him whatever i don't care i'm not going to judge him for that but the notion that what alex is saying is fine yeah that's no i know the notion of what alex is saying is crazy the it's just nonsensical no that's ridiculous roger saw drag queen story time yeah and was like i gotta get god i yeah that's that's bananas nonsense that's absolute banana so some people would say that and alex has a rebuttal people said oh is roger stone really taking jesus
Starting point is 02:25:01 as his personal savior no i'm not bragging as i like to say it's just the truth that i've i've prayed with roger and i and i and he has he he wrote up to me and when i talk about god with him at dinner in person he would i mean he wasn't manipulating he he in his life and he's always been through now understands that that's a good thing and we should celebrate that and we should accept roger who was never a hypocrite about going to gay pride parades and who is a wild guy but his wife's a christian and she's been wild too i've been wild nobody is judging anybody here god judges the heart and so i just welcome roger publicly proclaiming his faith in jesus christ in to that and i think we should all welcome him because there are no atheists in foxholes
Starting point is 02:25:56 yes you come under satanic attack buddy you get jesus or you bow to satan and you get destroyed there's nothing like having the devil on your ass to get you to get over to jesus and the minute they're doing all their evil stuff to you and persecuting you the minute you just call on jesus in the middle of the night for real and don't just tell jesus what to do or don't just say jesus i need your help that's when you're gonna get jesus and folks i'm not up here like some preacher man let me tell you i mean i never bragged about it or all that kind of stuff but i've had a few old friends and done a few things and beat people to death and things like that i mean i'm mr worldly but i'm telling you jesus is the only thing that's gonna fix this i think
Starting point is 02:26:38 i think that being worldly is more like i like a cigar i drink champagne i stay at high end hotels i beat people to death or i've traveled the world let's just start there that's so to alex's point about whether or not he has bragged about beating people to death or fucking a lot somebody's got a super cut she i never killed anybody technically one guy two years ago had some health problems later but technically i didn't the point is i've never killed anybody not that i've ever stomped anybody's guts out actually i have a couple times it's not too nice takes people a long time to die if you stomp their guts out but i could have had sex with the most beautiful women in hollywood
Starting point is 02:27:24 and i never did it you know why every time they didn't have a soul when i was 16 i didn't want to party anymore i didn't want to play games anymore i grew up i'd already been in the fights all the big rituals i'd already had probably a i hate to brag so i'm i'm bragging it's actually shameful probably 150 women or more that's conservative okay so i mean he brags about fucking and fighting and killing all the time i am very greedy i was i a lot of people sent that yeah the media matters yeah the right wing watch and i was just sitting there like i'm good good good job guys you know no i'm like i'm i'm glad i'm glad yeah i'm not i think we talked about this on the last episode even like it would it would be good it would be a fuller coverage if
Starting point is 02:28:15 like once again alex brags about yeah exactly yeah but you can't what are you gonna do yeah hey it happens yeah so um alex gets off this uh sort of weird god jag he's been in and uh he has a guest on and i think it's the last time we will ever see her our guest is with us for the rest of the hour i appreciate her holding while i got it that we're going to break in a few minutes it's super tuesday diana lorraine is amazing she's super smart and a very beautiful woman chris matthews got fireworks saying our guest was beautiful she's a very radiant even a person wow of one of god's creations we're very thankful for her so uh can't can't bring in diana lorraine without talking about how she is hot this will likely be diana lorraine's last appearance on
Starting point is 02:28:58 info wars and that's because she's only really relevant because she was trying to meme her way into running against nancy polosi for a seat in the house and that didn't work out they didn't happen did the primary for california's 12th district was held on march 3rd how to go lorraine got a respectable 2,653 votes this was just shy of nancy polosi's 89,460 though so it doesn't look too good for diana all right that was that was the percentage of people who are going to die in the coronavirus apparently she was also beat by republican john denis with 11,387 votes and democratic shahid butar with 15,645 yeah i was rooting for shahid california is a very weird primary set of rules it's an open primary then the top two vote-getters end up in the
Starting point is 02:29:43 general election even if they're from the same party so diana is out the general election will be nancy polosi being contested from the left by butar who will present a way more formidable challenge than diana lorraine could ever hope to break this episode is on the day of the primary so i guess alex imagines that this is some kind of a last push to get lorraine that last mile that she needs to clinch the election but it was not to be i really don't want to make fun of her for getting involved in the political system since i would encourage anyone to get involved if they feel like they can make a difference but based on the way she ran her campaign i don't feel too bad about it anybody who flies a plane around trying to make jokes about liberal tears
Starting point is 02:30:21 deserves derision and mockery when they lose this depressingly yeah she lost liberal tears where we're shedding those literal tears for you diana so anyway this might be the last time she's on as a guest but oh god if you don't win today we'd love to try to get you to talk show us here on air let's just get that officially out to you we want to hire you that'll cause a feeding frenzy of folk other folks calling you that's fine we'll just get it out in the open so i'm courting you to be a talk show host here on air but sorry she's which he's never done before if she loses she's offering her a job she lost so i guess she's i guess she's gonna work and yeah and i love that idea this is going to cause a feeding frenzy of people cnn msnc going crazy what's going to be
Starting point is 02:31:01 info wars with the biggest get of the year yeah this is gonna be a coup uh yeah no one cares no so alex is uh they get done with their interview and it's very stupid who cares alex has something going on though they're using the crisis that has come with it to take over and have power and control trump is not trying to do that but there's no doubt that everyone i talk to including myself i'm not trying to cough here on air to like illustrate this i can't stop i talked to toller nixon during the break rogerstone's lawyer deadman second years he's has pneumonia he's super sick right now flew back from dc everybody i know that's flown he's super sick this is absolutely a performance thing like alex is at a dry throat i imagine from rambling too much
Starting point is 02:31:54 or maybe it's not on march 7th it was reported that that attendee at cpac had tested positive for corona virus which raised the possibility of the entire info wars crew being exposed to it i pray that this isn't the case since i don't wish illness on people even that i hate and because i can't imagine the horrible effect this would have on alex's rhetoric i can't imagine that making it much better but alex playing up this cough i don't know man that it's in bed that's pathetic yeah fucking call steve pechenek he can cure it again yeah so we're running out of time on this march 3rd episode and alex i think realizes that he hasn't done much there's a lot of career well certainly there's been a lot of tommy robinson there's been a lot of rambling about god crying
Starting point is 02:32:39 interviewing diana lorraine now it's time to get to work yeah let me just read your headlines i because i think because i actually read these articles a lot of them don't probably 10 percent of these articles i read the whole thing the rest i scan over let me just do this without without comment that's probably the best thing i can do here yes i have left no it's it's like doing nothing that's the best thing that he can do so alex has a ton of headlines he's read 10 percent of these articles fully maybe 90 percent he's kind of scammed kind of scammed over but he does read all of them except he does not yeah he doesn't know what reading means yeah so he reads he reads one article and it's it's about how the left man i this is really depressing i forgot
Starting point is 02:33:27 to cut this clip but what it is the headline is that liberals are having less male babies and alex says that it's on purpose of course it is so that part the on purpose part is not in the headline he's just making that up this is about a study that was done specifically in ontario canada and they found that it's possible that trump's election has thrown off normal sex ratios of newborns there's a wired article that explains this really well and what it comes down to is that there's a documented relationship between stressful events and the sex ratio of babies which it actually happened after 9 11 and the london bombings in 2005 no one knows exactly why this is the case it's still something that science is trying to explore and understand but there's a pattern
Starting point is 02:34:08 that's being observed where highly stressful geopolitical events have a tendency to skew births to being more females in this case specific to ontario they found a ratio of 1.0217 boys born per girl born down from the normal figure of 1.0605 this is certainly really interesting and the more data points researchers have about this phenomenon gives them a big gives them a better chance of figuring out what's going on however this is not an instance of liberals choosing not to have boys we can assume that this was not in the 10 percent of the articles that alex is right i would i would imagine so right yeah so i like chromosome is weaker to stress whatever just i'm not sure that's one of the theories that has been floated perhaps right
Starting point is 02:34:52 right right right no i'm just saying like you know he doesn't give a shit no he didn't read the article nope maybe the headline so here's another one vegan demands neighbors and governments doing this cook meat because they smells bad how about we're not to smell your stinking death you stinking cool so this story is about an anonymous person in berkeley california requesting that their neighbors not cook meat with the windows open because the smell was overpowering to them when they went jogging even the worst interpretation of this story this is a neighborhood issue yeah there's literally no reason for alex to be wasting his time critiquing the politeness or lack thereof in a random neighborhood he's never been to there's a decent chance this isn't even a real story
Starting point is 02:35:34 it's all based on someone posting an anonymous note they got making this request which could easily be fake no matter what it doesn't merit alex calling anyone scum or even talking about this story at all it's the definition of trivial also that story has nothing to do with the government the vegan did not demand anything it was a request and the requesters were not for them to stop cooking meat it was to close the windows when they did so looks like that story was also not in the 10 alex read i hated i saw that story and it i was so furious that anybody like so many outlets picked up on that and it just drove me and say neighbors hate each other that's it's so stupid just just stop it guys just stop it it's they said vegan and it was like this is
Starting point is 02:36:20 going to be a trend right and that fuck off yeah so people complain about dogs next door is that going to be is that going to be the next fuck off why not i hate them here's another headline watch homeowner repel steves with motion activated water sprinkler that was a fun one i'll never have time to get to how is this relevant to the show this is just one of those fun videos you see some from someone from your office posting it's a sort of thing you see on the local news and they run it as a story when they need to fill 20 seconds at the end of a show yeah this is bullshit he's reading his facebook feed that is what he's doing he's like oh look at all my facebook friends sharing articles i'm reading the fucking headlines but he's been kicked off facebook and i'm sure
Starting point is 02:37:01 that he's you can never found a way to get back you can tell that he has watched that video oh that was a fun that was a fun one yeah i couldn't read the whole that's in the ten percent he has read not really a reader yeah i'm like i'm a visual learner yeah very depressing very sad so we get to the fourth and a lot of the beginning of this episode is about mike bloomberg a lot of it is are we still doing that what what do you mean bloomer can't we just not talk about him ever again uh yeah so a lot it's it's it's very weird i got really overwhelmed yeah because he i don't i didn't understand why he was spending so much time on bloomberg and here he was just a little little taste of of this uh from the beginning of his show everybody looks at that phony pile of
Starting point is 02:37:53 dog manure and knows that he will burn in hell because i know he's the guy who financed the lawsuits against us which makes me feel great when a pile of dog feces like that doesn't like me it means i'm doing really good so bring it on you demon midget by the way there's nothing against short people hell i'm not that great in stature uh but but i mean it's just he thinks he's so big and so powerful he definitely has a napoleonic uh syndrome i mean you know i'm 511 when i stand up straight he's at least four and i'm when he stands up straight and boy let me tell you that really sold the public all that sashing around uh when i'm not saying my bloomberg's gay or anything i'm just saying i was gonna cast somebody for a gay gang bang video he'd definitely be the main
Starting point is 02:38:39 subject of the deposits that were gonna be made we'll be right back stay with us as a family show so uh alex hasn't established in any way that bloomberg is funding the lawsuits against him and until he does i don't believe that's true don't care however i guess alex took the news that bloomberg won that one primary pretty hard because he spends most of this first to half hour of the show complaining and it's mostly about that video that came out of bloomberg eating food with his hands pretty grossly it's mostly just that i can't i it always personal always physical appearance based bullshit there are so many reasons to hate there's so many but alex can't can't make those critiques millions of you can't make those critiques because he
Starting point is 02:39:22 agrees with those things that i i mean so to tax maybe i don't know anything other than alex hasn't read that article other than fucking i offensive now eats weird politically but fuck it's it's very strange because alex is definitely playing this for comedy but it comes off as alex being really mad about a guy's eating etiquette yeah like i think what happened is that like carpe donkta made a meme and alex really doesn't want to do any work so he just plays this clip like three times in the first half hour jesus and that was why i was not surprised to hear him say this and i have really just i i don't want to say i've spun my wheels the first thirty seven minutes but uh do your job we're gonna have to this part isn't in the show we're
Starting point is 02:40:09 gonna cut this part we're gonna restart the show do your fucking job i know i i know i've wasted thirty seven minutes up top but we're gonna start the show in the next hour there's supposed to be all this super important news that you always weirdly don't have time to get to and you spend over one sixth of your broadcast day playing joyless memes and whining about a dude who's already dropped out of the race yep and how he eats food he's the tip of this spear then fuck out of here you got to buy his product so he can offer you this fight do your job well so anyway alex went to the grocery store because his daughter wanted some whipped cream okay and people were not nice to him oh and alex didn't take that very well and i was smiling at the checkout folks and i'm gonna try
Starting point is 02:40:50 to you just day where it was a wall of their souls aren't gone but they're in suspended animation they're in carbonite they they've been put in a trance and they've been put in a weird place and they think they're don't have any power and they think they're desperate and they don't have a reason to live and so they're just stewing in self loathing instead of a connection to god connection to beauty if they can just recognize beauty and and a painting or knitting or or helping somebody or gardening then they would connect to the earth but because they're all smartphones everything else they're just dying it's scary
Starting point is 02:41:34 and and what i saw there's what i see in a bernie sanders event then i go to some rural town to be white people spanish or they are they're all alive and happy because they're working and they're alive and they're they're doing something it's modern civilization that's killing us whoa whoa all right so people were not nice to him at the grocery store so now all of civilization modern civilization is killing us it was that is a bit of an escalation hello unabomber yes i agree i agree great also you should count yourself lucky you should be spat upon every time you go outside your door most likely getting bad looks is a fucking god sent that's a win yeah so alex plays a clip of a video that's supposed to be out of Iran and it's of a number of body bags
Starting point is 02:42:21 in the hospital and i i want to play this clip i want to discuss this because i think what it does is really demonstrate how there is a disconnect between what alex does and what's appropriate all those dead bodies by the way your brain's a super computer so it it has intuition that's not intuition it knows this footage is real thank you very you can look at that you can tell you that that's real i uh you know if you just see it i would tell you that i have no idea if that video is real or make maybe it's an old video that someone's reusing claiming it's from recently happens all the time you do not know just on immediate viewing of the video i don't know initially
Starting point is 02:43:04 and neither does alex i'm less interested in that though because this clip clip offers a perfect opportunity to explain one of my main problems with alex jones it's very difficult to engage in his ideas a lot of the time because he and i have a very basic epistemological disagreement fundamentally we don't agree on what it means to know something or how knowing something is achieved let's use this video as an example here's how my process works it starts with a question in this case is this video real i can't possibly know that from the presentation on alex's show there's just not enough information so in order to reach that conclusion i need to seek out information through a little poking around i can find out that this video is said
Starting point is 02:43:46 to have been published by bbc persia and it's allegedly of a number of body bags in a hospital in comb in iran an article in the new york post says that it was originally shared on social media by a journalist named mohammed ahways and so while the official account of fatalities in iran is 107 opponents of the ayatollah have claimed that they believe that his regime is covering up the real scope of the situation and that there could be many more deaths sure this video has been used as proof of that an argument that there are way more deaths than the 107 right with this information i can entertain the possibility that this video is definitely real for a couple of reasons the government of iran is not the most open and transparent government so the possibility
Starting point is 02:44:29 that they've not been forthcoming is in the realm of possibility but even if that isn't the case there aren't more than a hundred body bags in that video and the outbreak in iran has been largely centered in comb so it's also possible that this video depicts the people who have died which is very sad but not necessarily proof of any cover up in the way that this video has been used by some although it is entirely possible that the way that they're using it is right no matter what you certainly can't jump to interpretation results are inconclusive right it's entirely possible and maybe even probable that this video is real and i feel okay with that because i've tried to figure out the source of the video and nothing seems too suspicious and
Starting point is 02:45:11 places that generally engage in some form of editorial process yeah have posted it and also some of them do say allegedly right right right but so there's there's still a little bit of uncertainty for alex even if he's correct i take issue with how he arrives at information he sees this video and decides that his brain is a supercomputer and he just automatically knows when something is real that obviously isn't true based on years of documentation on this show but that is his process when i tell you my process is seeking out information about where this video came from who posted it initially what is it purport to show that's a process his process is that's real i know it's real yep absolutely no it's real the end this is dumb
Starting point is 02:45:57 if that's an acceptable way for him to come to his reporting then he's just really talking about his feelings on his show like he said under that deposition information and actual knowledge mean nothing i want that to be true because helps me if that's true guess what it's true the end right and this is this is a very important point and that is that whether or not the conclusion that this video is real whether or not he's right about that doesn't matter the process is flawed right and that's important you need to be process oriented not results oriented as baseball just figured out in like five years sure yeah sure if you have a sound process you will generally arrive at the like an appropriate conclusion on a on a on a more consistent basis
Starting point is 02:46:46 right then if you're like i fuck it whatever yeah yeah you'll you'll randomly be okay or close to right in some cases and then people will cherry pick that and be like see intuition is so and i got there faster than all those number crunching nerds all that shit now unfortunately if you do engage in this process and you have no standards for anything you'll end up doing some really fucked up things like i don't know having stewart roads the head of the oath keepers come on your show and act like a corona virus expert which does happen no yeah no here come refuse here come stewart rose no noted doctor what he's a fucking militia guy you bet the people who don't know anything about science the domestic flights are now spreading it around because it is airborne
Starting point is 02:47:38 it's not just no that you get it when it's not coughs near you with your six feet away you're safe it could be circulating through the air conditioning be circulating through the air in a school in an air wow hanging closed space and you're gonna breathe it in just like smallpox or just like measles that's what's different about this it's not the same as the flu and how it's transmitted it's also an aerosol it can be airborne see this is why it's a bad idea to have your militia leader gun weirdo buddy on your show to talk as if he's an expert in public health because it'll say things like that there's currently no evidence that the corona virus is transmittable in airborne fashion it's been shown to transmit by human to human contact by contact
Starting point is 02:48:17 with some surfaces where the virus may have ended up on and by respiratory droplets caused by coughs and sneezes it's easy to say that if a sneeze can transmit the virus it means it's airborne but that's not the same thing diseases like measles can live in the air for long periods hours after someone sneezes or coughs or emits which is not this case with the corona virus as far as the current information on the subject shows this matters because the difference between being airborne and not is massive in terms of the spread of the virus when steward rode's what he's doing right now is lying to alex's audience to make them more scared about a health matter which is why you shouldn't be speaking on these subjects he has no idea what he's talking about and he can
Starting point is 02:49:00 really only do harm honestly steward should stick to whining about guns and threatening a violent revolution he's much better at that i was thinking i was thinking maybe i fucked up at the beginning of that when he said it's not uh blah blah blah it's airborne and i was like oh he's gonna he's gonna twist it and be like it's carried on planes get it it's airborne that's how it's getting around the world and then he was like nope legit it's in the fucking ac yeah great we're wow there's there's distinctions wow yeah he's wrong that's fucked up so alex starts talking about his lieutenant colonel sources and this will be one of the reasons why i made you really bring into sharp focus that it was over the weekend that the first one talked to him okay give us your
Starting point is 02:49:42 expertise you have a lot of sources that's not that fema has all the answers the military has all the answers but i was told a month ago we believe it kills about two percent of people and we're already having an undeclared emergency going on that's now been admitted so because now alex has added the secret emergency declaration that he's building from the hill headline of course and conflating the azar announcement from the end of january yep now he needs one of his sources to have been a month in the past so he's taken the first lieutenant colonel that talked to him over the weekend and moved it back to a month before because it's more convenient for the narrative nothing matters everything shifts this is all bullshit you are
Starting point is 02:50:22 missing one possibility alex controls time oh he's a timelord yes exactly it's possible he got into his tARDIS took the lieutenant colonel they both went back to a month ago the lieutenant colonel told him again so technically he is correct when he says that a month ago the lieutenant colonel told him they were tired to sing okay the end um fine okay if that's the case i can't fact check so i know somebody who could matt smith so alex has allowed steward to now say that it's airborne yes great that's very again steward has no business talking about any of these issues but he he makes a claim here that's really kind of interesting and i think also very irresponsible gut level you really think this is the big one well i think yeah i think it's legit i think
Starting point is 02:51:11 i think we're living the movie contagion i think i think this is a serious threat and it's going to i've never heard you this alarmist before no well here's here's a thing oh back again and again the person in fact they've already said and if it isn't as bad as we think we at least did what we had to yeah well we're reinfection is more dangerous i just saw an article that's confirmed this thing it's like age it comes back age i mean and the second time it comes back at you guys know what viruses are that's already out there in the mainstream press so there was an article about people who had recovered from coronavirus testing positive afterward there was published in the new york times on march sixth but that's after this episode was aired so if they don't know about
Starting point is 02:51:45 that article in the patent let's the timelord thing uh but it is discussing the same phenomenon that alex and steward are talking about yeah there are not many cases of reinfection that have been found but experts who have looked into it are of the opinion that there are a couple explanations that are the most likely the first is that these people who you know these are people who got false negatives in the tests that deemed them recovered so it's not actually a reinfection as much as it is them still being sick but haven't gotten an accurate negative test that doesn't sound possible it's possible but it seems probably unlikely since to be discharged from these hospitals people have to test negative in two consecutive tests one day apart ooh it is unlikely but it's also not
Starting point is 02:52:28 impossible since false negatives are more common than false positives right so it's possible and that's one explanation well considering the kit rollout that we've seen like there's all there's all kinds of possibilities for absolutely absolutely and the other possibility that they often bring up is that the pcr test that's being done that found them positive after recovering could be picking up remnants of the virus because it's a super sensitive test this new york times article points out that pcr tests still quote detect remnants of the measles virus months after people are no longer contagious so there are those possibilities there are other explanations than this virus keeps coming back yeah yeah yeah the journal of the american medical association
Starting point is 02:53:09 found four patients in china who had tested negative been discharged and then tested positive five to thirteen days later though they tested positive later they were asymptomatic and none of the family members who lived with them were infected which tends to indicate that they weren't contagious their study was inconclusive as to the cause of this phenomenon but suggested further examination there was recently one guy in china who died after getting discharged from the hospital presumably because he was clear of the virus his situation doesn't match what they're talking about though since he died of respiratory failure so it's more likely a case where he was wrongly discharged he was one of a number of readmittances to the fang kang hospital one of the newly
Starting point is 02:53:48 constructed facilities they've put up so odds are this was a hospital problem where they discharged patients too capriciously yeah there was one case in china or i'm sorry in japan of a woman who recovered and then days later returned to the hospital with a sore throat and chest pains and tested positive again so that that kind of feeds into the it attacks the heart stuff yeah steward was talking about sure some early indications that doctors are seeing are that the antibodies that the body creates in response to the coronavirus do not persist for very long in most people so unlike chicken pox where if you get it and you're immune to it afterwards people may only have a very temporary immunity and in the case of this virus that's possible which is
Starting point is 02:54:30 why we need a vaccine for it and not just survive it or like take your kids to fucking chicken coronavirus parties sure yeah there have been other cases than these but there are quote too few twice positive cases to conduct a study or draw a definitive conclusion as Sharon lewis the director of the peter doherty institute for infection and immunity in melbourne told the fortune i was able to find an article in taiwan news that seems to match up a little closer with a alex and steward are saying this article is about an anonymous doctor sending taiwan news a message claiming that reinfection of the virus increased uh if people's uh deadliness the the the deadliness of the infection sure the sub headline of this article reads quote instead of creating immunity
Starting point is 02:55:13 the virus can reportedly reinfect an individual and hasten fatal heart attack so if you just skim the headlines you might think that this doctor was telling taiwan news that the reinfection of coronavirus attacks your heart which is in line with it alex and sure uh steward are saying if you read the actual article here's what the doctor said quote a few people recovered from the first time by their own immune system but the meds they're using damaging their heart tissue and when they get it a second time the antibody doesn't help but makes it worse and they die a sudden death from heart failure i can't find any data backing up this anonymous claim but if you take it at face value as accurate even this is just saying that the meds that were
Starting point is 02:55:53 being used to treat the virus are damaging people's hearts yeah that's not indicative of the virus attacking people's hearts this is an article from february 14th so it's not exactly breaking news but i could see this possibly you know it's possible there's something here if it's true that the meds that were being used compromised a patient's heart it would put them at far greater risk from the virus but the reinfection has nothing to do with that that's strictly a problem with these meds yeah anyway the point is if this is the source that steward and alex are using they're completely misusing it and i wouldn't be surprised if neither of them had actually even read the article just read the headline because the headline is in line that's all they want the
Starting point is 02:56:31 headlines in line with the narrative that they're putting forth the article is not at this stage even experts can't definitively say whether the relatively small phenomenon of people testing positive negative positive is the result of human error faulty test or some feature of this virus that is not yet understood and alex jones and the head of the oath keepers they know way less than the experts oh yeah they're just engaging in really irresponsible stuff here i i i'm still recovering from the oh it's airborne now it's in your a c run run get outside sure get into go to the woods go underground yeah it can follow you underground it's in the ground now and even if you get better you're going to get sick again oh no and now you're hard to take boom oh god damn it we're
Starting point is 02:57:14 all dead there it's over for humanity it'll happen so steward roads alex jones having a great time yes yeah i think that does seem like they're enjoying how do you make this even better oh add roger stone close steve patrick no god damn it so steve shows up okay and he wants to weigh in on the democratic primary i've cured the democrats too no he does want to talk about the democratic primary and i sense a little anti-semitism great what you're seeing right now is not only the end of the democratic party they're finished when you have a blumberg and you have a bernie saying is you have a jew who's a socialist and a jew's a big trillionaire that's a hard day buddy you have played out the scenario of any conceivable rationality for the democrats steve's whole point
Starting point is 02:58:04 about trump being a great person to have be president is because he's a super rich businessman yep why does it matter that bloomberg's jewish ah steve i do i do think that that is one thing that uh because i remember i've gotten a few people texting me and messaging me about how when elizabeth warren dropped out of the race they're disappointed because now we're back to two white dudes all over again and that nazi flag really should put into sharp relief that we are not back to two white dudes well some people view it that way yeah some people yeah some people very much do not and they are not on the side of the white guy no yeah no no so alex is very convinced that no matter what the shifting sands of the his coronavirus narrative is he's certain that
Starting point is 02:58:52 it's man-made this isn't even up for debate he says unfortunately steve pochetic doesn't buy that bullshit well then it's up for debate i don't think so and i'll tell you why number one if you look on the can of lysol you will see coronavirus number two if you want to create a virus biological warfare which i know quite a lot about you don't create a corona virus they're far more lethal entities but they don't work in biological warfare because we have some other restrictions on it so i don't know what the lysol part is about but i know that there was a conspiracy going around about like i saw that somebody took a picture and it was like lysol helps kill 98 99.8 percent and they put corona but yeah yeah that sort of thing i don't i don't know what steve is saying
Starting point is 02:59:37 but it is interesting that he's like no i saw man-made yeah alex gonna have a tough time with that now i mean there's advice oh and then there's bad advice yeah and then there's pochetic he has his own category he has a plan no i want to hear this let's hear the reality is the following you've got tony fouch you don't have the cdc you don't have hhs get rid of all those people they're not useful the cdc was way behind didn't have the proper test and this is an example of what i was saying a long time ago for trump so his advice is get rid of the cdc get rid of them get rid of hhs just keep tony fouchy all right i'm gonna here's my plan right okay now a lot of people and a lot of movies have all been about fighting the zombie and apocalypse my plan is
Starting point is 03:00:35 what if instead we don't what if we lean in what if we just let why not become a zombie you don't know if it's not better maybe they're having a great time maybe they're having a great time it seems like they're they're they're populating more than white people are now that's your great replacement theory jesus christ yeah i mean i would say that dom advice is get rid of ice no doctors right i think this indicates two things one steve is really committed to the bit yes in terms of we have to get rid of everybody in the government yeah and then the second thing i hear from that is that steve really doesn't view this as a pressing concern no the crown of ire i mean he cured himself yeah he does reiterate that in this episode cannot possibly have doubled down on it's no big
Starting point is 03:01:27 deal man that's insane it's no big deal which is runs counter to every element of alex's except on tuesday no or monday no which day was a sunday sunday that was a supply chain one but also steve says that's not a big deal okay well fine it'll all work out it's all fine okay now steward and steward's still there he's still hanging out of course and steve knows that steward's there and he knows that militias are very active in montana and so he starts rambling about montana i'm going to play this clip okay this has nothing to do with anything okay i'm going to keep i'm definitely mic down and for this it has nothing to do with anything they were talking about before this it's very weird now steward and i come out of montana i know a little bit about him and i had
Starting point is 03:02:11 a lawyer who was disbarred from montana and came down to florida now why is montana a problem montana in and of itself was really a democratic state left wing and i was totally shocked because i come up there and and worked in bozeman to start up companies but when my accountant told me look at the local level you're going to be paying all kinds of taxes i said it's not worth it i'm getting out of here stay there we're back in two minutes hour number three with steward rhodes and i'm seeing machinic we'll get your take on montana straight ahead stay with us we'll get your take on my sure steve what are you talking about steve when did you even have time yeah when give me the timeline let me know when you are in montana i want to look that up and cross reference that
Starting point is 03:02:59 with when whether or not you were in korea at the time i i i do i do love that anytime anybody brings up anything steve is like i absolutely we are together on this because i too am from montana i had a lawyer disbarred from montana what all right but thanks steve thanks a globe trotting forest gump sure so steve gets to talking about how like he wants to get rid of all these government agencies and everything because he can't get integrated intelligence absolutely not to that alex is like well papa steve haven't i given you integrated this is very fucked up i've got 16 intelligence units that are worthless they all want to have their own little job but when i need an integrated intelligence prediction it doesn't work the cia doesn't work the nsa doesn't work
Starting point is 03:03:52 cyber communication by the way we're not bragging but isn't info works with all our guests we're we've been giving the real in integrated intelligence analysis i i i've said that for 18 years you've been ahead of the curve i mean honestly but i'm not even trying to toot our horn it's scary that we saw trot was going to win two years before he did and then half his support was two years globalists are like like they don't even get what's going on man get the fuck out of here two years get the fuck out of here that's such bullshit fucking six months before he's elected you were calling him a god damn mobster fuck you that's not true but it was less than a year yeah he started supporting trump in uh december yeah 2015 okay sorry it was about 11
Starting point is 03:04:36 about a year but uh trump wasn't even running two years before the election nope he announced in that was it july yeah anyway fucking stupid so um they talk about another thing that steve has been like consistent on for a long time is that the democratic party is dying yeah they're all dying out and so he's talking about that a little bit and he's like i kind of let him you know whatever in in talking about that i think he indicates that he was not a good practicing therapist okay back when he was the death of this party and the death of a system that really is no longer in the a constitutional system i totally you're right you predicted 10 years ago i didn't believe you show how do they go down and i don't want to be like gandalf up here the
Starting point is 03:05:20 bulldog falls off the cliff he gets me with his whip now how do we stop them from taking us down with him gandalf comes back you don't do anything with him it's basically like a a patient committing suicide what i call the borderline every time they want to cut their wrists i let them cut their wrists if they want to keep cutting their wrists they do it in front of me and i said fine i'm not going to stop you why would i as a psychiatrist want to stop yourself to start to the baby or i i would not be comfortable going to that psychiatrist or psychologist i'm listen i am going to go out on a limb here and i'm going to say because it's your fucking job i'm not sure that's best practices watch people cut their wrists i i go to a psychiatrist dan i have an
Starting point is 03:06:03 appointment this week and i'll tell you something not her she is not going to watch me do that yeah if i were to go to my therapist and you be like hey what do you think about this yeah okay if he didn't call the police i would think he was the worst therapist in the world i mean doesn't he actually have a responsibility by law to call the police if they're self harming in his office i would assume there's some sort of a guidance on that anyway whether there is or not i think steve just indicated he's a fucking yeah weirdo no yeah you can't you have to call the police if you're planning to commit violence to others or yourself i i don't yeah i don't i don't know what the line is on violence but yeah i should i should have looked into that but i didn't anyway steve's gone
Starting point is 03:06:47 he's been a complete nut bag i'm firing him i'm firing him as my therapist that's for sure i don't think he's practicing anymore maybe there's a reason yeah so alex gets into like this idea that he has these people who are clearly contradicting each other on his show and he's like yeah people people accuse me of that people ask me all the time on the street and emails and comments why do you have one guest on this here's another guest why do you say one take one hour nothing another well no i'm always for the second amendment and i'm always for the family and jesus christ the first amendment and always for america but you're not always for the good i want to have different perspectives on different angles to challenge my mind if alex wants to challenge
Starting point is 03:07:30 his mind he should take up sudoku if he wants to get the perspectives of people he thinks are interesting then he should probably learn how to conduct an interview the problem with alex's show is not that he has different people on with different ideas the problem is that he doesn't engage with those ideas from a consistent position he agrees with just about everything his dumb friends say and then he changes his narratives based on them you can see earlier how he turned something mike adam said about a rush limbaugh clip into two high-level sources telling him that half the us was going to get corona virus with three million deaths there really is only one responsible way to do a show like what alex is trying to do and that's for him to stay neutral
Starting point is 03:08:08 to have a consistent northward-facing bearing which would be hard because it would require him to prepare he would need to hear stewart road say the corona virus is airborne and be able to correct him which alex would never do for one he doesn't want to offend his gun buddy and two he's more than happy to let steward say it so he can say it himself later because alex refuses to do any work and he can't stop himself from believing basically anything his stupid friends tell him you end up in a situation where his show ends up being super disorienting and kind of abusive for this episode i've listened to sunday through wednesday of last week and i don't know what alex's real position on corona virus is on sunday the virus isn't a big deal and the real issue is the supply
Starting point is 03:08:46 chain disruption he even suggests that the whole thing is fake because if it was real china would have covered it up the whole thing is a plot to disrupt the economy and attack trump but then on monday alex mysteriously has two fake high-level sources who predict three million dead one over the weekend and one that morning and all of a sudden this is a severe medical panic again and even though it's a major crisis he still has time to try and bait gorka into a fight then on tuesday it's still the three million death dire situation but it's cool because trump secretly declared a national emergency a month ago and all the unpreparedness you see all around you is actually just globalism in the bureaucracy trying to fuck trump over of course even though he's
Starting point is 03:09:25 still in a gigantic pandemic mode alex still has time to spend an hour grotesquely interviewing tommy robinson and crying about god then on wednesday one of these fake sources actually told alex this stuff about the two percent death rate a month ago even though a month ago alex was speculating this is a race-specific bio weapon that maybe trump had launched on china his payback for fentanyl and then he has super credible always right expert steve pechenicon to say that this isn't man made and it's no big deal because you know he got it and he cured himself and what we need to do is get rid of the cdc in the hhs yeah i can't put it more simply than this i pay attention to alex and listen to his show actively and i have no idea what his actual
Starting point is 03:10:04 position is he goes along with the whims of these guests and contradictory things they say become parts of his narratives in a way that creates a generalized incoherence that's really hard to penetrate i suspect that this is intentional if he operates this way alex will have endorsed and played around with a hundred nonsense theories that his guests have brought up and on the off chance that one of them ends up being close to accurate he can pretend those other 99 were just in war gaming things and not really his position and the real one was the one that's close to accurate i'm fairly convinced that this is a strategy consciously or not but whatever the case it makes this show very hard to understand if you're just passively listening to this and
Starting point is 03:10:42 you actually believe that alex knows anything about what he's talking about i can't imagine what you have to go through on a weekly basis everything changes because nothing's real on monday alex's source told him the 2 figure that past weekend then on wednesday it was a month ago alex tells steve that he knew trump was going to get elected two years before the election when trump didn't even announce two years in advance and alex thought trump was a mobbed up fraud until december 2015 less than a year before the election in the same way that alex is not a consistent protagonist for the show the past of his positions and what he states as facts are just a whim people who listen to this show were tricked into thinking that what they were getting was researched and hidden
Starting point is 03:11:23 information but it's really just the emotional outbursts of a racist idiot who came to be bothered to read articles past headlines it's sad i mean it really bums me out it's it's it's it's difficult for me because i know that a certain amount of alex's audience didn't know what they were getting into like they they you get seduced in with this promise of like entertainment or or yeah or i know the truth behind the headlines right tomorrow's news today kind of bullshit and then before you know it you could get just lulled to sleep on this idea that he's right about everything and it's just if you pay attention you see the way these things shift yeah that those two high level sources the way that story changes and the the the beginning
Starting point is 03:12:08 of it the way it's so clearly based on a conversation with mike adams about a rush limbaugh clip like you wouldn't notice that unless you're paying attention right i imagine that they treat him the same way he treats the news and shit like that where it doesn't matter it really kind of doesn't matter what he says what matters is what you choose to think that he said you know so he gives you a wide range of options but if you're listening to him you're really only looking for what reinforces your already dumb beliefs yeah probably you know like he's a he's not a he's not a source he's he's a probably he's a comfort blanket there's probably some of that but whatever it is it's just not something like that yeah it's a disaster yeah so stuart is still around and he has another
Starting point is 03:12:55 militia buddy with him and i don't really care to even remember the name of that guy yeah but stuart thinks that this virus is going to have other implications and there's a good good example of a real crisis that has a side benefit for them of shutting down the ability of people in hong kong for example the protest and same thing in united states a lockdown in our country will stop the rise of these militia units for example in virginia no one's going to want to go to a mass muster of 500 guys like we just had exactly it's a way to shut down the political awakening in america oh no militia turnout will be down oh yeah that's their real goal man yeah yeah yeah we want to keep those 500 people from getting close to each other with all their gun fun yeah i mean sure there is the
Starting point is 03:13:43 you know like millions of women who get together and protests that might be shut down but what the government's really focusing on is those 500 gun weirdos right that's their big concern so stuart doesn't like mike pence and he doesn't trust the idea that he's in charge of this coronavirus response okay now alex tries to defend mike pence that's a bad idea and this goes weird one thing you and patina agree on but don't trust pence why does everybody i kind of like pence but i don't i know his back i mean i was background but why why why is pence spent well first of all the most recent example is he's in fully in favor of red flag he is wanting to set set oh yeah he had to suppose him in indiana for red wow show my ignorance he's for red flag wow yeah he had to
Starting point is 03:14:28 suppose him in indiana saying that the red flag legislation in indiana is the model the whole country should follow you remember a couple clips back before i went on that rant about how alex shows abusively inconsistent you remember how in that clip alex said that people ask him why he says one thing one hour and then something else the next you remember how he tried to maintain that his consistency was that he's pro-gun second amendment like 10 minutes later here he is trying to push back on steward roads talking shit about mike pence when he's informed that pence is in favor of red flag laws which two people like steward and alex are the equivalent of tyranny on august 28th 2019 pence told a roundtable discussion he held one in response to the
Starting point is 03:15:07 Dayton and el paso shootings and steward is totally right mike pence was arguing that indiana's existing red flag laws about guns were a model that the federal government could follow this was a big deal in the fringe gun weirdo circles alex's buddy larry pratt's group gun owners of america even launched a seven tweet thread about the meeting saying quote mike pence is again calling for red flag gun grabs citing that indiana's gun confiscation law could be a model for the country and in all caps this is dangerous oh they got him alex had no idea about this the shining example of his consistency is an issue that he knows basically nothing about except that he likes guns the fucking vice president is openly supported when he considers a breach of the second amendment
Starting point is 03:15:51 and alex is surprised to hear about it like six months after the rest of the gun weirdos lost their minds about it alex is so averse to work that he can't even handle his one marquee issue well and it shows when he's sitting here with an actually committed gun weirdo yeah stewart roads is the the real mccoy like he actually does an insane person yes yeah and alex is a guy who he's even sort of role playing his gun support yeah or else he would know that mike pence it was engaged in this alex says wow look at my ignorance yeah which he is never ignorant ever he's not trying to brag but he's never wrong or never an uninformed about something now here's where this gets fun okay so we've decided that mike pence is bad now evil alex this other guy welcome to
Starting point is 03:16:35 the team i guess stew roads have all decided that pence is the worst good now it's time to decide who should take over for pence okay we're fantasy booking yep okay there i think has the feeling of them being like all right who are we going to put in in his place i'm guessing not maria banford no well i think what's happening is is that pence is part of the control team control trump and set him up that's what i really believe is going to happen to him he's a globalist i don't care how many times he kneels on the chihuahua trump replace pence with the question who should he replace him with maybe uh congress miss khalise jim jordan rand paul uh what was the gentleman's name from kansas go back no the other one no i know he's the one that was attorney general he's really
Starting point is 03:17:26 good uh hurly hurly case it's i guess from missouri's yep i wouldn't go for case it's from ohio yep case it gives me a bad feeling but uh jim jordan would be good in my mind jim jordan tells good guy rand paul i hate to be the bearer of bad news but jim jordan is not a good guy no the reports about his cover up of the the doctor who is sexually assaulting members of the ohio state wrestling team when jordan was the assistant coach are just getting more and more damning oh well there is that yes on february 12th the daily beast reported that the former team captain adam de sabato spoke before the house civil justice committee and testified that quote jordan called him repeatedly in 2018 after his brother michael de sabato publicly claimed that the sexual abuse
Starting point is 03:18:12 of late team dr richard strauss was common knowledge to those in the wrestling program including jordan adam told the committee quote jim jordan called me crying groveling begging me to go against my brother that's the kind of cover up that's going on there an osu investigation found that this doctor had abused at least 177 kids between 1979 and 1998 and jordan was the assistant coach there between 1987 and 1995 all periods where this doctor was there as if things weren't already looking bad for jordan on march 6th cnn reported that there are now six former osu wrestlers who were willing to speak with them and that quote they were present when jordan heard or responded to sexual misconduct complaints about the team doctor richard strauss according to the
Starting point is 03:18:58 article eight more former wrestlers said that the doctor's behavior was quote an open secret in the athletic department all this is really bad for jim jordan because his whole position on this is that he had no idea that this doctor was abusing these students meanwhile all available evidence kind of points to him knowing and turning a blind eye so cool alex if that's who you're going to go to bat for as a good guy you should feel really good about that i wonder if this sort of information is the kind of thing alex will magically become aware of if jim jordan never turns on trump i wonder i wonder about that because i think it is i i just i just can't imagine like especially with how often alex screams about if anybody did that to my kid i'd murder him i'd kill him i'm the
Starting point is 03:19:42 protector of the children exactly yeah and then just all of just all of this is just i i i just jim jordan's a good guy say it say it out loud and you love to go fuck yourself yeah so we have one last clip here from the fourth and it's steward talking about what he wants trump to do and i imagine kill good lord i hope that trump does not do this that if trump wants to truly win he should stand in as the potas in this crisis as patty tenon said he must now do it like he's already gotten almost there he just got to do it in a constitutional manner and the way to do that is to call up the militia as the colonels point out put us put us all of us veterans back on the border and lock it down and stop all international flights to start right there and that
Starting point is 03:20:28 would kill the cartels instantly oh yeah total exercise of power it would and would also stop the further flying in of people that are infected with this virus and make him a hero well let's be honest the virus is a cover to secure the republic what do you know what he's talking about there that goes back to the you can either have pelosi marshal law or trump marshal law i think that underneath this underneath this all alex on some level though not very open about it kind of thinks this is an opportunity yeah for for trump to enact some marshal law clean house yep arrest all of his political enemies and all that you secure the republic and put him back on facebook for god sakes that will also be a part of it so i think i think underneath some of this
Starting point is 03:21:19 like no matter what the narrative is even though we can see over the course of the span of a few days it shifts dramatically there's there's large changes to what alex's main driving point is even beneath that there's probably this underlying current of i hope trump uses this to enact marshal law yep the trump marshal law that i want in order for all liberals and all the drag queens to be executed or thrown in prison all my all the the democratic party will be outlawed all of this authoritarian rule will come into place but it will be white christian straight male protected marshal law i think that the lot of that is underneath all of this and that's why a lot of it can be contradictory and shifting and it doesn't really matter to him yep he's just
Starting point is 03:22:11 hoping the trump pulls the trigger on this shit maybe when he says you know like oh there's a lot of conflicting information but what i've always been about the same thing i've always been about guns and jesus and all that shit what we're really finding out is he's always been about whiteness just whiteness and just just white white fascism so we have let's get the taste of all this out of our mouth with another end of the show out of context drop chimpanzees can rip a person's face off no problem what person do you know today that can rip somebody's face off fair enough good question good uh okay uh let's fantasy but okay they want to find out who should be vice president dad i want to find out who can rip faces off do you know anyone who can rip a face off i
Starting point is 03:23:01 mean i saw the movie face off that's true they didn't do it with their hands though although i do believe nick nicolas cage could commit enough to do it probably yeah he's a guy who's is in it to win it how about jason momoa or the rock the rock could rip a face off right maybe maybe in k fabe anyway this episode is part one and we'll be back on wednesday for the let i'm exciting stunning thrilling conclusion of the next eight hour things change when he's bald yeah i'm excited i'm excited to see if baldness gives him some sort of a clarity of thought consistency could be any of these maybe he's been keeping all of his bad ideas in that part in that hair and that part in his head could be yeah we'll see but until then we have a website
Starting point is 03:23:52 we do have a website it's knowledge fight dot com that is right we'll be are on twitter we are on twitter it's at knowledge underscore fight and that go to bed jordan that's correct we are also on twitter facebook we are and if you'd like to download the show please go right to download leave a review donate to the show buy a shirt all of it thank you very much uh yeah we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i am a uh double cheeseburger for breakfast andy in kansas you're on the air thanks for holding so alexa my first name color i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you

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