Knowledge Fight - #41: May 12, 2017

Episode Date: May 16, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan about what happened on The Alex Jones Show on May 12th. Topics covered include: The history of the Chinese nuclear program How does Alex Jones feel about Muslim women being in pool supply shops? What does Alex think about Keith Olbermann? Really, this is mostly about how much Alex hates Keith Olbermann

Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes who like to sit around and drink red wine and talk about the wacky, wacky shenanigans of one Alexander Jones. Now, here is the thing about this that makes it an interesting conversation.

And make no mistake, it is super interesting. I like, I like our hubris out of the gate today. That's not coming from me. I read it in the white paper. Podcast is interesting. See, now here's one way of putting it. You read the white paper. I do. I listen to the white. You listen to the white man. To the white nationalist. Yeah.

I, however, do not and know nothing about it. I watch Alex Jones' show every day and you live a better life. I do. So guys, we're going to get into today's episode, which is going to be insane and all over the place. Excellent. We're going to be covering the May 12th. That's last Friday's episode of the Alex Jones show.

But before I do, I'd like to just give a shout out to our new Donator, the first person who has not donated in their given name. This is a welcome to the team out Blinker. I'm a policy wonk. Out Blinker. You're a policy wonk now. Welcome aboard. Long time listener, I believe. Absolutely.

I think it might have been on board really early. Almost since the very beginning. Yeld it you for calling Milo Yiannopoulos a Nazi. That is true. I believe if I'm not mistaken. I think you might be right there. Anyway, we're glad to have you on the team of policy wonks. What's interesting today is that we are drinking liberty school wine.

I'm glad you brought that up. Which is very coincidental or perhaps on purpose. It's very intentional. I bought that bottle of wine for today because I am going to take Liberty Loving Alex Jones to Liberty School. Now, I would also say there is a Trump is actually speaking at Liberty University. It's a double. It's a double one.

You've got you've got you got both. Yeah, look, I'm not. Or at least we're drinking both. I'm not a guy for single entendres. You know what I'm saying? I like like multiple interpretations like depth poetry. I don't like poetry that much. Nobody likes poetry.

Really? Poets do. Yeah. So those poor bastards. Alex Jones was in a weird mood on Friday. He got into the studio and I think he started defensive. Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, it usually takes him a couple minutes to get into super defensive mode.

But here's how he chose to start out on Friday. I'm going to admit something to you on air right now. I overprepare. I killed him. I laid in bed last night for about three hours with an iPad reading news and watching video clips. Then I got up at about 6 a.m. this morning and researched for a couple hours. And then I got back to work and went over the latest news. And my head is just spinning because of the Johnny Walker.

One of the producers walked in. He goes, this is going to be an incredible show today. Look at all these clips. You sent us the other clips we have. It's incredible. I got to be honest. It is incredible. Oh, OK.

But not in the way that Matt thinks. Also, throughout the course of this episode, we're going to find that Alex Jones did no research. He might have been up till three reading Breitbart articles or something like that, but that he did no research at all. It's this is going to be so fun. institutional crisis meltdown on the government. This is amazing.

And I'm just like, yeah, I know it's amazing, isn't it? It's amazing how good Trump is. A commission to expose election fraud and how the Democrats are openly getting illegals to vote in mass. Pence coming out and admitting that there's genocide against Christians, hundreds of thousands a year being killed. Nobody would say that just a year ago. U.S. steel coming roaring back.

U.S. aluminum, U.S. dry goods, U.S. finished goods, so many good numbers. But then you juxtapose it with all the bad numbers and we are in the best of times, worst of times. I open the broadcast so many times with that statement and then stuff like this. I watched this seven and a half minute GQ rant by Keith Oberman and I watched it very, very carefully. Let me tell you something. Oberman didn't do this as a stunt.

So he didn't do it as a stunt. He didn't. He didn't do that. Did he do it as a job? Perhaps. He might have done it as a job. Yeah. But so here's what's great.

He lays out all these stories that he ostensibly wants to get to in depth. And look, none of them are real. No. We're going to get into this as the thing goes along. He's making the argument that Christians are the most persecuted group in the world and that Pence came out and said that hundreds of thousands are killed a year. I don't think he said that, nor is that true. It's not true.

I don't care if Pence said it or not. It's 100% not true. Of course. And the premise that no one would have said it a year ago isn't true because there's like world net daily articles for the past five years saying it. Yeah. They're all horribly unsourced. Every criticism of Obama eventually got to the all he cares about are Muslims.

He doesn't care about the Christians being persecuted all across the world. He's actually paying people to persecute Christians. Yeah. So I looked into it a little bit and I actually found a pretty interesting article because he goes on to and I can't remember if it's in this clip or a little bit later. I think it's here. But so he talks about how the UN admits the Christians are the most persecuted group in the world.

No, they don't. They don't. But I looked into it and I found on un.org a really interesting article from 2011 that talks about the persecution of Christians. And I think that's the only thing it could be going on making that claim. And here I'll read the headline to you. You are giving him so much credit for imagining that he has read this article. Or the headline.

He's read the headline. Oh, OK. Well, then, yeah, now I'm on board again. Christians currently most persecuted religious group in the world. Holy See tells UN. That's a very different thing. The end of the headline changes it. Yeah, yeah, no.

If you read the first three quarters of it, it backs him up. Yeah. But so this guy. Christians most persecuted group in the world says organization that would benefit off of lying about Christians being the most persecuted in the world. Yeah, yeah. So Archbishop Dominic Mamberti, the Secretary for Relations with the States and the Holy See, spoke at the UN.

And he went on to say that the particular influence of a specific religion in a nation should never imply that citizens belonging to other faiths should be discriminated against in social life or even worse, that violence against them should be tolerated. I like where he's going. I like where he's going so far. I assume that means an all-inclusive thing where every religion should be protected in the exact same way as Christianity, right? Yeah, that is the point that he's making.

Good. But I don't like the but that you just threw down. He also threw down this comment on the financial crisis that was going on in the world and throughout the third world, even to this day. The Archbishop stressed that the economy cannot only function by market self-regulation and even less in accordance with agreements limited to reconciling the interests of the most powerful. Quote, it needs an ethical basis in order to function for humanity, he said,

calling any other non-ethical basis ingenuous or cynical and always fatal. Yeah. So again, absolutely correct. He's almost as correct as Lionel is. But so the only article that he could possibly be pointing to really about the UN and Christianity being super persecuted, if you actually read the article goes on to say that Christians are persecuted but should not persecute others also. Right.

And the free market sucks. Yeah. So. Two very important things to say at the same time. Alex would never want to read the body of that article. You got persecution in my economics. Right, right. So then he goes on.

Also, that does make me think of that like every religion always pulls that like, oh, we're getting persecuted. I am less interested in how many people are getting persecuted than the net persecution rate. Sure. You see what I'm saying? Sure, sure. Like if Christians are persecuting more than getting persecuted, you don't get to,

you don't get to count, you know? If it's the other way, then everybody cares about you. It's an equilibrium. We want all of it to go away. Right. We want no persecution. No, I'm against it. But at the same time, you know, fuck you.

Sure. Uh, so the other thing that he got into there was that like steel, steel productions on the rise. That cannot be true. It absolutely is true. It is true. And it has been true every year since like 1950. Oh, okay.

If you look at the graphs, it's just a shot up. Well, then it is on the rise. It is. I can only assume that it's continuing to rise because of Trump's beneficence. It has nothing to do with Trump. It's just like a nature of there's, there's high demand for steel consistently. We need it. Literally everything, everything he takes credit for has been going on for the past

20 years or more. Absolutely. All of that goes to this other thing that he was saying, like he, when he's talking about dry goods and finished goods, he's basically, I think, trying to insinuate the what Trump tweeted out the other day about how China is going to start letting us sell things to them again, which is something's been in the work since 2013, I believe, something like that. And started to become finalized September of last year under Barack Obama.

Under Obama. Yeah. All of it. It's crazy. So he, he has all this. Which is not to say that that's not kind of a common thing that presidents have done for a long, long time. No, no, no, no.

Like there's, there's always been enough, both blame the previous administration and then, you know, lodge your administration. Scapegoating and glory hunting. Exactly. But now it's never been quite as blatant and constant as Trump. He has accomplished absolutely nothing but writing executive orders that will make everyone's life worse. And get halted in courts.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. He's wasting everyone's time. Yeah. But that's why Alex has got. And Bunny. Let's not forget he's wasting time and Bunny. Yeah, way more than anyone ever had.

Ever, ever. Just as fucking, just flying to his fucking wife, just as fucking wife being allowed to live wherever the fuck she wants costs us millions and millions of dollars. 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,440 Her security detail, which why does she have one? Everyone. No one, no one gives a fuck about her. Everyone knows this.

Let's move on. Yeah. I'm not to say. All I'm saying, all I'm saying is get rid of her security detail. No, no, no, no, no. Because, because think about that's unfair. Think about this. If she gets kidnapped or threatened, Trump wouldn't care.

Well, nobody did that. Like nobody would care. I don't, I wouldn't care. This is a good bit. But in truth, I don't think that's a good idea. No, of course not. Well, actually, I don't care. Are you being serious?

I think I am. Okay. I'm 50, 50. In that case, I just 50, 50 disagree with you. Yeah. Because I mean, she could get hurt. Someone could target her and that's not fair. I don't care.

Every first lady gets security details. It would be wrong to not give her one. That's all. I don't care. All right. Well, agree to disagree. A lot of people get hurt. None of them have security details and none of them or most of them aren't monster.

We don't know that she is. She might be great. Anyway, agree to disagree. She's probably terrible. I agree with you on that part. But uh, so Alex has got this litany of bullshit that he's doing. And then of course he gets to at the end what he really wants to talk about. Just Keith motherfucking Oberman.

Of course. So Keith Oberman had put out a video where he sort of says to all of the intelligence agencies around the world that we're in a crisis. And the time has come that we need everything to come out in the open. Because eventually you won't be able to. Right. This, this is going to be too entrenched. Yeah.

This is going to become a thing where time is of the essence. I am not here to defend Keith Oberman. I don't think he has a terrible point there. But at the same time, you really open yourself up to attack when you say, Hey, foreign agencies, spill the beans on our president. Yeah, I know. It's kind of the same thing. That would be a crazy thing to do.

It's almost like a goddamn president did it. Yeah. Yeah. You open yourself up to that exact argument. Yeah. And that's why I would never defend that argument. Right. Well, that's, that's the interesting thing.

I do think about this from time to time is what if you tweeted directly to the president? I hope some second amendment people take care of you. Hmm. Right. You can imply that was a very direct threat. Sure. But if you go to court for it, can't you just be like, he said it? I'm quoting him.

Yeah, exactly. So if you want to prosecute me, that means he's on the prosecution too. That's Mark Dicey. That's Mark Dicey as fuck. That's Mark Dice Claymation right there. We got it. We got to keep moving. All right.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm already distracted. I'm, I'm everywhere. I'm telling you, this is good. Let's do this. All right. So he wants to talk about Keith Oberman.

And here we go. I know body language and I watched it twice last night and this morning. Keith Oberman is completely mentally ill. He is mentally ill and he is dangerous. When I yell and scream, it's because I'm angry, but I let myself do it. So let me explain the paradox. It's not an act, but it is. It's how I feel, but I let the dog off the leash with Oberman.

He is completely out of control, calling for foreign governments to work with him to overthrow Trump. And then he begs the Russians to take Trump out. This is textbook sedition, textbook espionage. If I did something like this, I would be arrested within a day and I should be. What if the president did something like this? And then I've, I've got so many clips of professors today and yesterday saying kill white people, kill conservatives, kill libertarians, and they've totally normalized

we're not even human. And this is the climate. They're the danger, not Trump, not libertarians, not Christians, not conservatives. So he doesn't have those clips and he doesn't get to those stories about. Although technically he could probably just grab some of the clips that I've said because I think, I think I'm pretty much there. Professor Jordan is really into white genocide. Or he's at least okay with it.

Right. And I think that any clips that they could find would be on that border. Yeah. Talking about, you know, the experience of African Americans in this country, the idea that some white death is minimal compared to what's happened. That I could see. But anyway, hold on. He's, he's making this argument that fucking Oberman is committing treason and espionage.

Right. I don't think most spies go on GQ and put out seven minute long videos. That seems like bad spy work. It does seem like bad spy work. It seems very overt. It seems like some John Psobeck, Jack Psobeck investigation spy work there. Wouldn't let him on GQ. He's another gentleman.

He should be drawn and courted though. Courtedly. He's trying to figure out how to make that pun work. So then he goes on. He's like, Hey, you know what? Conservatives and libertarians aren't the ones who you should be afraid of. Definitely not. And this next clip begs to differ.

Journalists as credited with undercoming mass voter fraud vows to aid Trump probe. Project Veritas, Trump launches commission to investigate voter fraud. That's got them real mad. Yeah, it does have them real mad. Cause Trump is not going to uncover any voter fraud. There really isn't any. Not substantial anyway. And what that clip is talking about is that James O'Keefe of project Veritas has come out and said.

I was just, I just wrote that down. He said journalist. He did not say a name, which was, which was like, Oh, this is like a Breitbart dude. This is like a Psobeck dude. This is like bullshit all the way. It's James O'Keefe. The guy who's doing like what? Seven years?

No, he's not in prison. Oh, one of those guys is. Oh no, that was the other, I think that was the other people who were tried to the parenthood. Yeah, those guys. But yeah, he's been outed as a out and out fraud. He is, he commits acts of journalistic debauchery. Right.

He has no credibility in the idea that we live in a world where he might be invited into that. Yep. Is incredibly scary. And that is a danger to voting rights. That absolutely is. It's, it is never, ever about uncovering voter fraud. And it's always, always about making sure that people who don't vote for you aren't allowed to vote. Further disenfranchisement.

Absolutely. And the guy who, you know, Trump has put on the, on the ball for that. I don't remember what that department is. The, the census bureau or. No, that guy quit. Right. That's, that guy quit. The director of the national census quit.

Yeah. Just the other day. He resigned in what? Like, would you say, did he resign in quotes or did he resign in protest? I don't know enough of the details to say, so I wouldn't want to speculate. But the guy who's in charge of like implementing or looking into these voter fraud issues has been sued over voter rights issues four times. Of course.

Of the ACLU. So we're going to. And they've won every time. Yep. We're going to get some real good stuff out of this, I think. We're going to get to the bottom of what's wrong with our voting system. We're going to fix it all. Absolutely.

So. Well, it's because three million illegals voted in the last election. Six. Remember, it's six now. Fuck you. It's 10 now. No. Yeah.

Do I also have detention? Yeah. You got a Saturday detention. Oh no, not a Saturday detention. You're be cleaning the school's windows and I don't know. Look, so Alex Jones has introduced some of his narratives here, mostly that he's super mad, Keith Olberman. That is important to remember for later.

Right. But it's not just like he has these stories he wants to talk about. No, he's over prepared for this show. Absolutely. You understand? He spent hours and hours and hours. Over prepared. Oh, that's how he always is.

This is what happens when he's over prepared. Detroit school to hold Muslim girls only prom. Let me tell you something. It didn't hundreds of thousands of Obama brought in. 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:12,160 Everywhere I went in Austin yesterday, including a suburb, I went in two shops, a Starbucks, and then I went to pool supply place. And there were like seven people in the Starbucks, three of them were young Muslim girls

with hoods over their heads, drinking coffee after school. Then I went to the pool supply place. Same deal. And all I'm telling you is imagine if you were in Saudi Arabia and in Saudi Arabia, they were walking the stores and there were Christians and women with lipstick on and high heels everywhere. They'd start physically attacking you. But here we're tolerant.

So I'm just saying we're Latin people in mass that are not tolerant, that are the most oppressive, cult like people on earth. And it freaks me out. You bet I'm freaked out. You bet I am. I got three dollars, ladies and gentlemen. And I don't like it. Wait, wait.

He's got three dollars. Yeah. Three dollars. Three dollars. I thought he said I got three dollars and I was like, well, you know, you're about to be sued. You better get some more money. Yeah, you're going to lose those three. But I mean, we believe you that you're freaked out.

Yeah. You're showing. I don't know why you're freaked out by young Muslim women drinking coffee at a Starbucks. I don't know, or a pool supply shop. Yeah. No, they're in the pool. Yeah. His daughters can't buy one of those noodles without Muslims just buying all the noodles.

I do like that this could be a new stereotype that these Muslims love to swim. These Muslims are swimming everywhere. You can't walk outside with them swimming in lakes, in pools, in oceans. But taking all that fun aside, when you talk about Islamophobia, fear of Muslims, he's literally expressing that there. There's no other way around it. Those women weren't doing anything. No.

And he's like, oh, these guys are in a very tolerant or anti-tolerant society. And we're very tolerant. You're like, no, you just said you wanted to kick them out. I would argue he is incredibly intolerant. Absolutely. He's very close to the people he's making up in Saudi Arabia. But at the same time. Yeah, they have more in common than he and I do.

I would definitely argue that his argument about this is an incompatible group of people, there's holes punching it by the fact that you saw them at a Starbucks and a pool supply shop. Sounds pretty compatible. Yeah, that makes sense. Three Muslim women are sitting around in a Starbucks drinking coffee. That's what we do. It could not be more compatible unless they opened their own pinata store. Exactly.

Next to a cat shelter. Exactly. That's under attack by the trendies. I like the idea that the Detroit school is holding a Muslim girls only prom where you're like, wait, so are any dudes invited or is it just a girls having a party? Look, I didn't look into that story. Why would you? There's nothing there.

I'm certain it's not true. Of course. This is one of these things where sometimes Alex's lies, you're just like, all right, I don't even care. I don't have the energy. Right, all right. You, fine, just move on. There's too much going on in this episode and too many important things.

I had to research that this one got left by the wayside because it's bullshit. You didn't research that? Did not. I am freaked out by that. How many daughters you got? Eight dollars. Wait, no daughters. No daughters.

No daughters. Okay. So in this next clip, Alex Jones, we're going to get through like probably six more clips or so and then the episode takes a turn that I, I'm going to, I'm going to give you a spoiler alert on it. Okay. I think Alex Jones is mad that he is not the press secretary. God, that should happen.

I can't. Okay. Look, that's bad for democracy. That's bad for all of us. But I'll be goddamned if that wouldn't be the funniest thing that's ever happened before. He'd last a day before he was in the bush. Oh God, yeah. Oh man.

Like he, there's no way. Like he would punch somebody in the press pool. Well, he talks about all these trendies and false intellectuals and stuff like that. And that's easy to do when your audience are idiots and you're alone on your show or you're only talking to people who have the same dumb ass globalist mentality that you do. It's super easy or Eddie Bravo is your guest. It's fucking simple. Like when you have to sit down and have the scrutiny of the incredibly meticulous and

intelligent press, he would be fucked. They would tear him apart. Let's not give them that much credit. And also, If he sat down with that fucking Charlie Warzell, Oh, he would be murder life. It would be a disaster. But the press pool is so far not really doing too much for us,

considering they're being soundly defeated by the likes of Huckabee and Spicer. They're not being defeated so much as they are. It's like, come on. Which is my favorite buddy cop comedy. One of them is a beekeeper. The other one keeps spices. It's an amazing show. So in this next clip, Alex Jones.

See, there's this interesting thing that's starting to come into the mainstream understanding or people are starting to talk about and people are starting to understand the idea of Russian active measures. There are propaganda tools that Russians use. Right. These narratives and talking points that are pushed out on Sputnik and RT in particular, both of those networks are state run, state owned. They are the info wars, but if it was all of the media.

Yes. And they push out narratives and the idea that there are certain outlets in the United States that mirror those are what people are mostly concerned about. Right. When people talk about fake news, a lot of it is that. That's what they're talking about. Right. Someone who has been on info wars in the recent past,

former CIA agent Larry C. Johnson. The four, four most discredited CIA agents that's ever been on info wars. Possibly. But yeah, yeah. He is someone who is incredibly guilty of appearing on Sputnik and RT and then taking talking points that are germane and originate on those networks and trying to proliferate them in US media. Really?

And he has done so on Alex Jones's show. The idea that GCHQ, the British intelligence agency was spying on Trump on behalf of Obama is a Russian active measure narrative. Really? Yes. Now, do you think he's being paid to spread these lies or by the Russian propaganda machine? Or is he just like on board? He's being paid in as much.

Well, I mean, he's always been not beholden to the truth, but he's being paid in as much as he is paid to appear on those networks and he's banned from American networks. Right. So there's that. He is being paid. But why would you bring that back to the States unless you were, well, if he's consistently going on these shows, then I assume part of his verbal contract is spread it everywhere you go. Possibly.

I'm not, I don't know. I have no evidence these, you know, a paid agent or anything like that. And we have documentation in the past of him just being an idiot. That's true. So he might just believe dumb shit. That's possible. And he is duped by this Russian propaganda and brings it over to Alex. The reason I wanted to lay this out and explain it is in this next clip, Alex is just straight

up repeating Russian propaganda. Really? Yeah. He's just laying out Russian propaganda. Wow. Yeah. So that is really hard to accept. Well, it's something that you realize he has been doing a lot of.

He has. No, I know. I know that part. But the idea that you are like, you are so desperate for any information that supports your bullshit that you will accept propaganda from a different country boggles my mind. Well, I mean, if you believe that Russia is one of the only countries that's not still in the grips of the globalists, it kind of makes sense that you would see whatever their propaganda is as maybe the real truth as opposed to the fake news media here.

I can see that as well. If you if you believe that all US media is fake news propaganda, then why wouldn't you believe that their fake news propaganda made sense? Yeah. It's topsy-turvy world. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, here we go.

By the way, the media has this firestorm going right now that Trump admits that the Russian probe was part of Comey firing. That's because he's being honest. He said, yeah, it's his flip flop and he's him thinking he's the boss. That's why it's a problem. It's him not investigating Susan Rice and her leaks and how he's been spied on and saying that the president is crazy that he's being spied on. He is.

When it's come out, he was being spied on. He wasn't. That's outrageous to have the FBI director saying that about anybody that's above him in the chain of command. No, he's not above him in the chain of command. I'm saying he got nauseous that he may have helped Trump win. All this other crap and Trump goes on top of it. It's a whole Democrat narrative made up that I'm with the Russians.

They lost the election. That's why they're upset. They lost in the electoral college, which is very hard to do and Jerrymandered towards them. That's not true. It is hard to lose in the end. And then they spent it. Oh, he's flip flopping. He's easy.

No, there's a lot of reasons. Comey got axed and Trump is tweeting out all these videos, some of the which we've produced showing the Democrats saying get rid of him, get rid of him up to last week. So the parts of that that are really important are the the idea that almost all of those points are just like regurgitated Russian shit. Yeah, the idea that the election was faked or that was there were there's questions about the integrity of the elections is just a narrative that's hurt feelings. Yeah.

The fact that the idea that Russian probe stuff is just yeah, just because the Democrats lost and sour grapes. Yep. The the idea that Trump was wiretapped. He wasn't the idea that Susan Rice is responsible for leaks. She fucking wasn't the idea that Comey said that the president was crazy. He didn't say that. Nope.

So the idea was crazy. You didn't say that he was crazy. Well, and then even beyond that, I mean, this isn't necessarily like a Russian regurgitation, but the idea that Comey was disgusted or nauseated by the fact that he had helped Trump is a horrible misrepresentation of his comments. What he was talking about was that he felt nauseous that he had had an effect on the election. Right. Because he is an apolitical figure.

Or supposed to be. Right. Right. The office is apolitical. Yes. And the idea that his actions had caused an effect on the election nauseated him, not that he had helped Trump. Right.

That's bullshit and Alex is being a complete idiot. Yeah. But the rest of that stuff is just. The thing that is just active measures. The thing that is so dangerous that's going through the conservative propaganda machine right now is the idea that it's fine to fire him because he should be subservient to you. Right. Which is like saying it's fine for me to not be beholden to any laws whatsoever.

Of course. Like that's that is the number one issue right now with the firing of James Comey is that if. That it like he's and he said it like even Alex Jones was like yeah he was being honest about committing a crime. About wanting this investigation to go. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.

And I can relate if I was Trump I would want it to go away too. Of course. That would be very bad for me. Yeah. But but hold on. But again the DOJ should be independent. Yes. The FBI should be independent.

Like all of these things are again checks and balances that no longer exist. Like as long as there is a GOP controlled Congress that is absolutely willing to obstruct every single possible avenue then there is no checks and balances. Nope. Our system is broken. And the checks and balances are really what creates the safeguard of freedom. Exactly. And this is why we're taking Alex to Liberty School.

To Liberty School. But beyond that and we're going to get back to this because one of the big things that he started talking about there and it comes back up over and over again is the idea that Democrats wanted Comey to be fired in the past and now they're mad that he got fired. And we talked about it on the last episode but that's just reductive thinking. It's both can be true at the same time. Absolutely. He's mischaracterizing what's going on.

And like of course they wanted him fired in the past and actually they didn't want him fired. Every single example that he brings up is Democrats or Bernie Sanders who just throws in as a Democrat saying that he probably should resign. They aren't saying he should be fired. No. Because even back then if he was fired it would be pretty fucked up. Yeah. It would be way more reasonable but it would be fucked up.

It would be it would still be fucked up if Hillary fired him. No. Totally. Because then because if Hillary fired him then it looks like a complete like. Vindictive. Exactly. Yeah. It's like retaliatory and that's not what you want from your president.

No. You don't want somebody who's going to consistently flout the rule of law. It's a bad idea. Yeah. So in this next clip Alex spins a very, very bizarre metaphor that I'm not entirely sure the point of but then gets on some bullshit. I love him spinning bizarre metaphors. He's spinning things that Trump got caught flip-flopping and giving different stories.

Like he's you know a teenage kid caught breaking into a liquor store at two in the morning and the cops catch him with a bag of cash and three bottles of whiskey and you know he says oh my dad works there oh I own the liquor store oh I found this money on the side of the street. But that's not what's happening in an interview with no notes. The president's like yeah he's flip-flopping everywhere he won't investigate leaks. He's not doing a very good job and this whole rush of things completely made up and I'm sick of it. And he told me I'm not under investigation. Three times.

And he goes on to say the Russians must really be laughing at us. This is idiotic. Why don't you investigate the Clintons? Why don't you look at how they're involved with the Russians and the uranium deal? Whoops. He just won't get off it. He's not looked into it. It's all he's got.

It's all he's got. It's super insane to me but also. Not even not just that but literally the Russians are laughing us at us. They did it on national TV. The guy was like oh is he fired? That's crazy. That's something we would do. Yeah Lavrov coming in and just just cucking us out.

Yeah exactly. From the White House. Which if I was in his shoes it's fucking hilarious. The problem is we're in our shoes where it's a constitutional crisis. Yeah the thing that makes it even more scary is that clip of the foreign minister Lavrov being like oh you fired the FBI director and you're kidding. Yeah exactly. That sort of thing.

It implies that they don't care if we know they did this. Why would they? Well I think that because if it does come out that they tampered in our election this severely we have to fucking kill all of them. It is well. That's an act of war. It is an act of war. Which is why I assume the investigation is taking so long.

Not because the evidence isn't found but because they need to provide the evidence in such a way that we can acknowledge this, correct it, and still maintain the Cold War instead of the hot one. I totally agree with you. Like that has to be the only reason that all of this stuff is delayed. Because there's no other explanation. Yeah because if any of it touches Trump it's war. It's war. If you, if the, and that is probably, you're probably right that's why it's taking so long

is because if it just was like Manafort, just Roger Stone, those investigations would not be that difficult to do and you just be like all right this is fucked up you're now a sitting duck president. Just the guys who retroactively registered as foreign agents is more than enough to be like hey you probably committed a crime. We're going to investigate it. Oh it took us two seconds to find a crime because you tweeted it at them. Yeah.

And they paid like they paid you with PayPal. Like that's how obvious this shit has to be. They used Venmo and there has to be a note. Yeah exactly, exactly. You have to leave a note. We used Google Wallet to pay for it. You know like of course, of course. Yeah totally.

Also that is a super specific simile of the guy being like uh yeah you go into a liquor store and you got a bag of cash and three bottles of whiskey and you're like wait that sounds like something you might have done. Did you do that? To turn over a liquor store? Yeah exactly. What's going on here? Do you know what did your buddy do that?

Well I mean I just posted this the other day to the KnowledgeFight.com growing biography of Alex Jones. Uh huh. He actually got kicked out of school for a year. Really? Yeah when he was 15 or 16 he had to go spend a year on quote the ranch because he was fighting too much. So go check that out.

God if only it was the ranch that all dogs go to. Uh yeah so you can go check that out on uh KnowledgeFight.com. You have to spend a year on the ranch is my favorite euphemism. Yeah it's great. So this next clip uh he yells a bit. It's fun. Russia ties made up. Yeah and then we know they wouldn't investigate them for their ties that are confirmed

because tell me his deputy directors all of them a bunch of Democrats give my other Democrats they're disgusting. They all got put in power by Obama. And if you don't know that Obama broke the law and got rid of our borders and it would ever he wanted and sold out our jobs and created ISIS and if you don't know that's treason you don't know what it is. And the word is like 85% of the FBI absolutely knows what's going on but it's the top is eight years of Democrat rats and Bush was a globalist as well.

Sure why not. So God help our country we need to just clean house people. Boy if Trump's a Russian agent we need more like him right. Our military our sovereignty our jobs give me a break. That's what we call that's what we call equivocation. If Trump's a Russian agent we need more Russian let's just let's just call it let's just call it. Putin owns us now. Why not.

Yeah. Fine fine. We're part of Russia now. Whatever. Who cares. Yeah. But that's called normalization. Yeah exactly exactly.

It's that's super fucked up and then beyond that like he's legitimately expressing a desire to unilaterally clean house. Yeah. Which would be a culling of people who disagree with you which is a coup. No that's normal. No that's when you have a government right with clear separation of powers. What you want is a single ideology in control of every single one of those. Acting in lockstep.

That's normal. Totally. That's exactly what you want. You want zero disagreement. That's how you get things done. Exactly. So the other things. Do you remember why this country was started to make more kings.

Exactly. The first draft of the Constitution was just let a king do it. Yeah who cares. You know what else you know I realized recently. What's that. The actual idea of globalists being in charge of everything. That Alex sells in order to pitch his bullshit. Right.

That is literally a false flag. You know where the term comes from. No. The term is a nautical term where you would put up your enemy's flag on your ship. So people would think your enemy was approaching. Right. And you would attack yourself. Right.

And it would make it to appear that this enemy was there. And it would be to gain sympathy or create the conditions that you're looking for. Right. The idea that he says like 9-11. Well think about it. The idea that he says that a New York Federal Reserve Board member is suing him when that guy is not a member of the New York Federal Reserve. Right.

That is a false flag. He's putting that flag on Hamdi Yulakaya's ship. And that's not true. That is a really good point. He's doing that to create sympathy in the people who already are like I hate the Federal Reserve. He's using false flag sort of ideology and tactics. Yeah. The only false flags that he's true.

He's right about are the ones he's actually committing. Well I mean even saying that George Soros is a Nazi collaborator is a false flag. Absolutely. It's literally putting a flag on George Soros' ship that's not true. Even saying that all Democrats are Russian agents as well or whatever the fuck is going on there. Sure. It's interesting. I mean it is.

It does just go into that. He's doing exactly the opposite of what he says. So we've already seen in this episode over Islamophobia some weirdness. Now how about we borderline treason. How about we try on a little sexism. Oh great. You know Spicer's done some good work but he's been like a deer in the headlines. So he's been replaced the last few days with Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

Who isn't as good looking as a guilfoil. But I gotta tell you. Wow. She's so sharp. What the fuck. Yeah. How can you pull that shit. That's pretty impressive.

How. Well because he's an idiot. That's like. He thinks he's complimenting her by saying at the end she's really sharp. Yeah. Yeah. Which is I guess I mean that's a compliment but he literally started the first thing he said about it. She's not as a.

Wow. That's fuck. That is the patriarchy in a nutshell. Like yeah. That's like hey look at how well she did for herself. She's and she's a woman. Did you know that. And it's it's mindless and flippant.

It's just thrown out like hey who cares. No it's normal for me to judge women by their appearance. That's what their value is based on. And if you told him like hey that's weird you said that he would get mad at you and think that you're a pussy snowflake. Well and that's because in his mind he was giving her the highest compliment. Right. If she was.

You're great and you're not even hot. Exactly. That's amazing. Yeah yeah how can you how can you do that. It's like it's like a gorilla that knows how to speak sign language. Like that might as well be his and his metaphor there. He played a video of her on the show and we're going to get into it now. See again listening not seeing.

Yeah and she has a nice down home country voice. That's for sure. Oh fuck no. Wait is she related to Mike Huckabee. Oh boy. I don't know. She's actually the love child of Mike Huckabee and Bernie Sanders. I should have said Colonel Sanders.

Yeah. Should have fucking said Colonel Sanders. I'll never forgive myself. Bernie would be much better at the press conference situation. He Alex this is where we begin. The Alex wants to be in the press core narrative or the the press secretary. Here is the beginning of his analysis of this press conference. Let's go ahead now and get to this clip where she annihilates this guy.

Sarah Sanders exposes hypocritical Democrat relationship for Comey was fired. This is from yesterday. Here it is. I asked you directly yesterday if the president already decided to fire James Comey when he met with the Deputy Attorney General Attorney General and you said no. Also the vice president of the United States said directly that the president acted to take the recommendation of the Deputy Attorney General to remove the FBI director. Sean Spicer said directly it was all him remaining the Deputy Attorney General.

Now we learn from the president directly that he had already decided to fire James Comey. So why were so many people giving answers that just. Yeah. Don't don't let me let's back that up five seconds please. It's called a consensus. You know you have a jury of 12 people and then they agree. It's not that they're all even agreeing for the same reasons. They all have different reasons overall but together it's called a consensus.

A consensus that the mainstream media are liars. A consensus that they're elitist that have a stain for the American people. A consensus that you can't be trusted. A consensus that you're hacks. A consensus that you're slain. So he's just getting abusive. A consensus that you're a dog. A consensus that you're a cat.

A consensus that you're a brat. A consensus that there are two eggs. There a consensus that it's green eggs. It's a consensus that it's green ham. It's a consensus that your point is made. I was wondering how long I could keep going. I was trying to find some way. Well you always got to go to children's books.

Exactly. So he's just getting abusive about the press there which is fun. And I know that's super fun. But the idea of him playing this clip is really to the name of the article that he posted this is about Sarah Huckabee Sanders who we've now learned is Mike Huckabee's daughter. His actual daughter is still fucked up. That is fucked up.

She's way more competent than him though except at play in the base. But be that as we don't know that that's not confirmed. She might be great. It's not confirmed. But the idea of him playing this is to demonstrate that she's great. Like that's supposed to be. And before we can even get to her response he's got to cut it off. And he's got to respond.

Yeah I don't know. It's time for a man to do some talking. Right. Totally. Because she's not attractive enough. No of course. So now the other thing that's interesting is he's not at all understanding what this journalist's question is.

Not even close. The guy is asking him while he's asking Sanders. He's not asking fucking Alex. Nobody's asking Alex. He's asking her why is there a discrepancy between what was said before and what the president said. Right. The president said he had made up his mind long before.

And here's multiple instances of people within the White House saying that it was all because of this. Right. Deputy Attorney General. Exactly. So why is that the case. Right. So Alex saying there's consensus.

Do you not understand. Like there's absolutely not consensus. Well clearly that's the opposite of consensus. Well what he's trying to what he's trying to do is say. Do you mean Alex. What Alex. Yeah. What Alex is trying to do is say that just because they both want wanted to do it.

Right. It doesn't matter when Trump said he did it or the like. Now great. The question though is why is it that everyone pointed all the blame towards this guy. Yeah. And then Trump said it was all his decision. The kind of. Those two can exist in the same time.

Right. That's not a consensus. Kind of the question if you really wanted to still it down to like normal languages. What's going on here. Yeah. It's not. Or or why are you so bad at scapegoating. Right.

Like you had a fall guy. Yeah. Trump all you had to do was say it was his fault. Well or why couldn't Trump keep his goddamn mouth shut. Yeah exactly. Like why isn't someone advising him to just well actually probably it's because the deputy Attorney General Rosenstein said he was going to quit. Yeah that's that is true.

Because he did not recommend the fire. No. But the the idea. I think we all understand what's really going on. Yeah. Is that that was the narrative that was going to go down and then they realized there's going to be trouble here. Exactly.

Because Rosenstein will quit and then Sessions is recused. The fuck are we going to do. Yeah. And so they're like I'd made the decision already. Sessions is in heavy scare quotes recused. Yeah he and he also I've been reading up on it. He might have put himself in the hopper by writing that letter. Really.

Yeah the fact that he wrote a memo about the person who was conducting the Russia investigation means that he yeah he might have his law legal license taken away. God it's what he has put himself in jeopardy. What a dream. Yeah but it requires it actually being. Imagine that the Attorney General is not allowed to practice law. God we're going to need to take this before the Supreme Court. Call the oh fuck.

What do we do. Who do we. Well Rosenstein quit. Yeah exactly. Call Yates. Yeah. She's not answering our calls. No for some reason she's not a big fan of ours.

Yeah so it goes on and we'll eventually. God we're going to eventually have Trump's own law firm. It just has. The one that was named Russia's law firm of the year. Yeah Russia's law firm of the year. And represents Ross Knapp. Yeah great great I want that law firm writing a certified letter that you have nothing to do with Russia.

It just doesn't get more bald faced than this. Like it is all so complicit. Or it's so bald faced. Or it's next level trolling. Yeah it has to be. It could be like they're sitting around like all right we have nothing to do with Russia. It would really drive people crazy if we use one of their law firms. I don't think it's that.

How is it. I don't think it's that but it would be hilarious. How are they so fucking obvious with this. And we still it's because we have the most worthless congress in history. That's part of it. And we do. And they know full well that most of the elections that go on in the midterms aren't going to be fair probably.

No of course not. Oh so that's great. They feel safe in there just putting their balls in our face. Yeah but anyway this clip goes on of the press conference and we get to. I don't think that Huckabee Sanders comes in yet in this next clip. Do we get to hear her voice. In the next clip we'll get to her for sure. Can I guess how many words of hers we get to hear.

No because you'll be wrong. Okay. So days after they come out say there were recommendations are on and on. He says yeah there were recommendations but I had my own reasons as well. To end. That's not him lying. That's him being genuine. Something you try to twist.

Something you tried to misrepresent. Because Trump's not a lawyer. And not playing lawyer games. He's obstructing justice. Opposite of a lawyer. Yeah that's a very bad lawyer game. So like but what he's trying to do there is trying to say that you guys are just trying to catch a man in a semantic trap.

Yeah. And that's not what they're doing. They're they have a legitimate question which is. Did you commit a crime. Well but even beyond that what the fuck is going on here. We would like to be able to report this accurately but there is an inconsistency here. We're trying to get to the bottom of it. It ain't a lawyer game.

No. Lawyer games are like. I don't know. Parcheasy. Seems like a high class game right. I would go with settlers of Catan. Or a bridge. Resource management.

That's all right it's fine. So it really has turned like the White House is very much a prisoner's dilemma. Like if I was if I was investigating them like a straight up cop right. You have three different possible perpetrators. All of them in different interrogation. Well now you got a really interesting prisoner's dilemma because you got three of them. Exactly. But that's kind of the issue is there are so many competing motivations here.

Like Paul Ryan just wants his fucking tax cuts. He's willing to end America just so he can get rich people tax cuts. Right. He wants to end Medicaid. That's his that's his main goal. He's been dreaming about it since those Cagers in college. Exactly. Which fucking wow.

But yeah so that's all he wants. Right. Trump just wants Trump to be richer and more famous. Trump just wants Trump. Yeah exactly. Trump wants it to be the Trump United States of America. And then you have all of the other players. All of them just like trying to maintain some semblance of power.

Or probably like massive wealth. Yeah. Because you know if the stuff that was in that dossier that came out the dirty dossier. Right. If some of the stuff that it was in there is true. People like Paul Manafort. People like Carter Page. Roger Stone stood to gain billions of dollars.

Yeah. From that. Maybe not billions. Yeah it's a trillion dollar deal. Holy shit. And they had like 20 percent of it or something like that. Holy double shit. Yeah it was a 19 percent stake in the third like I can't remember the precise figure but

it's in the trillions of dollars. Oh well then they stood to gain billions of dollars. Yeah because it has to do with the fucking the embargoes on oil in Russia. Right. And the expansive oil fields that they're not using because they can't. Right. So opening that up would stand to make people like Rex Tillerson and the conspirators. Yeah.

Tons of money. Yeah. So that makes sense as a motivation. That's very simple. So now you have all three of these different parties giving completely different stories. Narcissism, power hungry and tax money hungry. And lust for money. Yeah.

So your job as an investigator then is try and get them to turn on each other. And that's the prisoner's dilemma there is the only way they all win is if they all tell the same story. True. And since none of them can do that. And we're seeing an inability to tell the same story. And it completes just meltdown in like not even similar stories. Like legit if this was Russia Carter Page would be dead.

Yeah. He would not be still going on television. So many people would just be like they would just solve the problem. Yeah. Yeah. We just like. Yeah. I don't know.

Yeah. That is one. That guy is unlucky. Yeah. Odd how that journalist got shot in the forehead on Trump's birthday. Very weird. Super weird. Very weird.

So this next week we finally get to Huckabee Sanders coming in and giving her response to this question. Let's go back to her response. Fire. James Coney. So why were so many people giving answers that just weren't correct? Were you guys in the dark? Was the vice president misled again?

I know you'd love to report that that we were misled and we want to create. It's true. Hold on Jonathan. You had let you finish and read off every single one of those statements. So unless you want to trade places I think it's my turn now. I think it's pretty simple. I hadn't had a chance to have the conversation directly with the president to say. I'd had several conversations with him but I didn't ask that question directly.

Had you already made that decision? I went off of the information that I had when I answered your question. I've since had the conversation with him right before I walked on today. At this point her answer is good. It is it is not we were misled it's that I personally was ignorant. Right. So you can't hold me accountable because I just didn't know. Good answer.

Yeah. It doesn't take into account like Spicer and all the other people. Of course not. But at the same time that's she's doing a great job. Yeah. As the press secretary. She's already not fumbled at all. Right.

She's not she's not said anything embarrassing like Spicer. I agree with that. She hasn't gotten angry and run away like Spicer. She's way better at this. Oh yeah. Yeah. She's great. And not just that but she turned it into a question about her.

Right. Not a question that he asked. Perfect. Exactly. And because there's that minor little bit of taking responsibility for something that isn't really that bad it deflects from the fact that the question is about something that is pretty bad. Yeah.

You know. And that's that's brilliant. That's a really good rhetorical trick. Right. And I which is why again I told you don't give too much credit to our press corps. Yeah. But I respect the hell out of her answer at this point. Yeah.

It gets worse. It gets worse. Great. And he laid it out very clearly. He had already made that decision. He'd been thinking about it for months which I did say yesterday and have said many times since. Pause.

And Wednesday. Back it up again. Five seconds. Thank you. He went on TV two days after he was sworn in with his wife and said I don't know. I'm going to keep coming. We may get rid of him.

He's done some weird stuff. And then later he just did so much weird things like going on TV and saying weird. The president made him nauseous. Weird. That he might have helped get him elected. Didn't say. Mildly nauseous.

And that he also thought that Trump was crazy that Obama was wiretapping him when it was in the front page of the New York Times. The Washington Post. You name it that Obama was wiretapping him. And then you think we're so stupid and don't have a memory. You come back and say you never were wiretapping him because there's nothing in the wiretaps as the head of the intelligence committee has said in the house because he's read the transcripts.

There's no treason. There's no collusion. There's nothing with the Russians. Nothing. But setting up meetings with them. That's normal. And then they finally have Labyrinth, the foreign minister and the ambassador to the United States from Russia in a meeting and they turned that into a giant conspiracy theory

and said that Trump's helping him plant listening devices in the Oval Office. That's how crazy these people are. So to that. Let's go back to it. To that last point, no one's saying that Trump was helping them. They were just saying this is a dangerous situation to have people with recording devices in the Oval Office from a hostile state. Right.

So that's really more the point they were making. Usually pretty bad. I don't think he totally gave up the game as you have indicated. Even in his defense, he was like, yeah, he set up meetings that legally he wasn't allowed to do. No, his argument, well, yeah, I mean, that is kind of dicey. It's a little dicey. It's illegal. But his argument is that Mike Flynn, whenever he was talking to like Kislyak, was just saying,

hey man, President's going to meet with you. Yeah. That's why you had to call him multiple times. Say that. Say that. Hey, man. Just so you know, we're still on for five at Friday. Same day that Obama put sanctions and kicked a bunch of spies out of the country.

You know, Flynn had to call a couple of times to be like, oh, Trump's going to be with you. Hey, don't worry about it. We're going to have a meeting. We're going to have a meeting. I'm definitely not revealing foreign policy that I shouldn't re-breave at this time. No, we're going to have a meeting. And I swear I have not yet registered as a foreign agent. No, no, don't worry.

No one will know. We are so secretive. He might as well have had a bullhorn next to his walkie-talkie. He was so, so transparent. Yeah. So, but, but all, all of that, all of that shit is, first of all, he interrupts her, which is rude. I'm being petty, but like, he couldn't let the clip play out and actually give her answer because he had to jump in with his answer, right?

Which I mean, it's just, of course, he wants to be in there. He wants to be in there so bad yelling at these journalists. It's just, he's hungry for the game. You are right. He wants to yell at them himself, but no one would ever let him there. Yeah. I didn't, like, that is something, even you said that at the beginning, but I just, I just didn't pick up on it right there.

But yeah, he wants to be there answering those questions. Because he would answer them so much more harshly. Yeah. And so much better. So much better than any unattractive woman ever could. I would defend Trump so much better than you are. Exactly. That sort of thing.

Yeah. Yeah, it's pathetic. But the other thing is also, I think she's not spending exactly the narrative that he wants to. Right. So he's, he's kind of cutting her off there again in order to equivocate the two. Around people who know facts. He couldn't spend those narratives because you couldn't, you couldn't yell at people about how the Washington Post and New York Times,

they reported that Trump was wiretapped. They reported that Trump said Trump was wiretapped. Or they had a headline that Trump Tower Associates of his might have been wiretapped. Right. But that's the headline. And then the body of the article spells it out that that did, you know. That it is not true. Yeah.

So everyone would just be like, stop referencing headlines. Yeah. To just make, you don't read anything. You don't know that. I mean, that's why he couldn't have the job. No. But because our dreams can't come true. No, that would be so great.

Oh God. So in this next clip, we get even further insight that Alex wants to be in the fray. Like it's just so clear. Let's go back to it. Yesterday and have said many times since and Wednesday, I think was the final straw that pushed him and the recommendation that he got from the deputy attorney general just further solidified his decision. And again, I think reaffirmed that he made the right one.

The vice president in the dark, too. Nobody was in the dark job. He paused back it up. You were. No one's in the dark. When the president finally did a TV interview, he laid out the truth that he was sick of him, that the guy was waffling all over the place, that the Democrats couldn't stand him, that he said when he first got into office, he might get rid of him.

And then he got recommended on top of what he'd already made the decision. He's the president. So notice the guy goes back to the talking point. Oh, so you were kept in the dark. Oh, you were misled when she just said she wasn't. They just keep coming back with their lies. That's why they're hated. It's why they're disdained.

It's why they're disgusting. So let's go back to this little man. Here it is. The vice president in the dark, too. Little man. Nobody was in the dark, Jonathan. You want to create this false narrative. If we want to talk about contradicting statements and people that were maybe in the dark, how

about the Democrats? Let's read a few of them. You want to talk about them? Here's what Democrats said not long ago about Comey. Harry Green said Comey should resign and get investigated by the Senate. Senator Chuck Schumer said, I don't have confidence in him any longer. Senator Bernie Sanders said it would not be a bad thing for the American people if Comey resigned. That's a very different thing to say.

Yeah. So that just goes on for a while. And that's sort of what I'm talking about when I say that her answer doesn't stay good. No. Because it is, like you said. She's not answering the question, but she's doing a really good job of moving the target. No, absolutely. Which is the job, kind of.

She's crushing it. Look over here. Look over here. Look over here. Absolutely. And she has, like, she prepared. She came with all of those fucking Democrat quotes. Yep.

Like, she's on it, for sure. Unlike all the times that they've showed up with, like, Manila folders and just filled with blank paper. Right, right. She actually wrote shit down. Yeah, which is great. But then on top of that, they stumbled onto competency. I would love to be able to be there myself as a journalist to be, like, give a rebuttal.

Like, now, hold on. Those quotes from Democrats are old, by and large. They're months old and they're talking about a different circumstance. It's not fair to use those as evidence in this context. But I mean, at the same time, like I'm saying, it's pro. It's pro shit. Yeah. She's being a press secretary.

It's a shitty argument with your family. That's the real problem. True. Because you ask a question like, hey, is this true? And they're like, well, this is true. And you're like, no, no, no, no. Answer the question. Hillary.

I asked you a question. You answer that question. Hillary. That's how conversations happen. Hillary. If I talk to you. Hillary. You talk back to me.

And we share it. God damn it. That hurt my throat. So, um, Alex comes back after she gets done with her answer. It just goes on. She quotes a ton more Democrats. And here is his summation. Wow, she's good.

Better than Spicer. Yep. Agreed. Put her brain in the brain of the Fox info, baby. We got something. No, they're both super smart. Wow.

That's insane. Holy fucking what? Yeah. What a goddamn prick. He's a pile of shit. This is, oh, okay. She's. He bookended the entire thing with comments

about how she's not hot enough for it, which is insane. Put this very smart girl's brain into a hot girl and now we're talking. Yeah. Fuck you. It's degrading. It's super degrading.

Yeah. God, imagine if you took Alex's brain and put it into the brain case of a fucking dog. A brain. And shut the fuck up. A brain case. He just saw Ghost in the Shell. That's fine.

I'm on board with that. I'm on board with that. He saw Ghost in the Shell. It wasn't a great movie. I wish they had chosen an Asian woman, but what are you going to do? What are you going to do? So he gets done with this breakdown

of this press briefing and we now enter what will be the rest of this episode. Uh-huh. He comes back from break and he starts breaking down this Keith Holberman clip. Ah. And. I'm glad we got off of his rampant misogyny.

It is, but he's no less dumb in this part. He skips breaks and does 35 minutes straight on a seven minute clip from Keith Holberman. Wow. He's furious. That's our level of delving into a seven minute clip. But he's lacking a little bit of information. Yeah.

Context. Yeah. In for like any insight. Right. He's just mad. He's just screaming throughout all of it. He hates Keith Holberman with a fiery passion. Well, I would say that is like hates like.

Totally. Like Keith Holberman is definitely that similar style of alpha male yelling kind of thing going on there. But he's the one that the trendies like. It's kind of like Alex Jones is some sort of outcast at the media high school. Yes. Keith Holberman is the cool quarterback.

Yes. That is exactly what it is. But at the same time. And he wants to be the cool quarterback. Instead he's the fucking lineman. He doesn't get anything. He doesn't get any accolades for being the left guard. But that's because Alex Jones is beefy.

He can't move like a quarterback. But also like it's not even really fair that assessment because like Jake Tapper is maybe the quarterback or something like that. If you want to go mainstream. And Jake Tapper is a pussy. But if you want to go mainstream media he's kind of like a big guy on CNN.

Is he. I don't watch any of it. You could even make an argument that like Sean Hannity is the quarterback. Sean Hannity is a prick though. But he is a highly rated show on the number one cable news network on Fox. No wonder we're dying as a totally.

No wonder we're dying. I think the accurate metaphor is that like Alex Jones is an outcast and there's a cooler outcast. Keith Holberman is still on the fringe. He's on GQ. That is not a news network. He puts out videos online. They put a lot of in depth interviews.

Like here's the here's the thing that I love. Recently. Teen Vogue has been doing some of the best fucking. It's killing it. Yeah. They've been doing a great work. Yeah. Absolutely.

But we're we're entering. So why not GQ is my point there. Why not. Totally. But you can't take aim at Keith Holberman as being like a news golden boy when he's on Gentleman's Quarterly. You know like it's a it's a fashion magazine. He did a he did a photo shoot for Maxim too.

So it's all good. Great. You understand what I'm saying. I do. Misplacing a lot of his anger. Of course. And it's mostly I think as we're going to explore throughout this if maybe too thorough investigation

of Alex's investigation of this clip. Yes. I like how we're going to double down. Alex is mad at himself. OK. And he's yelling. So are we going to do a lot of projecting here. No he is.

No I know that's what I meant. Alex is mad at Keith for embodying things that he feels he's lacking. Right. Or things that he's self conscious that he does. Right. And like I said up top it's almost more like you're stealing my style bro.

No because he does that with Glenn Beck. But like OK as far as like what I was saying up top I'm not defending Keith Holberman. I think he has his issues. I think he's a way better journalist and a way better presenter than Alex in terms of being a professional. He does yell a little bit but it is way more controlled than Alex.

So when he's talking about like this guy is off the off the chain. I let myself leave that he's mentally ill. That's lunacy. Yeah. But I'm not. He got to keep his own children. I'm not.

I don't even know if he has kids. I'm not defending Keith Holberman. I am only in so much as I side with him over Alex. Yeah. So here we go. Let's get into the introduction here. And this clip I've labeled all capital letters. Lops of projection.

This is just all projection. Ladies and gentlemen I don't know where to begin. Remember a few months ago when Oberman said that our country has been taken over by the Russians. Remember he said that this is Russian scum. He is a Russian agent. We are at now at war with Russia. Russia scum.

Boom. And then. It's almost like we've been taken over by the globalist. GQ. And you look at his eyes. If you're a radio listener go to infowars.com. We have the video posted. He looks like he's completely mentally ill

and like he's completely scared and like he's this five-year-old young boy who's afraid that crusty the clown's coming to killing. Sounds like someone we know. And then he calls for foreign governments including Russia. Sideshow Bob.

Totally. To take Trump out. Because now Russia must know how evil he is. And then here's Trump weathering the storm restoring our republic getting our jobs back getting Obamacare repealed in the house just over delivering total stalwart totally in control totally slick.

And it's like he's crazy. He's evil. He's bad. We got a whole world's in danger. Yeah. He's crazy. He's bad. The whole world is in danger.

I don't know where I've heard things like that before. Could you think of anybody. No. Who has said something similar to that. Crusty the clown. That's a good point. Yeah. What the fuck.

Why did you pick crusty the clown. It's totally insane considering one of his associates close associates was the person who was trying to kill. Yeah exactly. Also that like he is mentally ill. You see it in his eyes. Yep.

He looks scared. He looks like a five-year-old boy. Yep. All of that is Alex. A five-year-old boy who's been kicked off of his mother's lap and told you don't get love no more. Because you want to be a man. A five-year-old boy who's stuck up a liquor store

with a bag of cash. And two bottles of whiskey. And they're like yeah my dad runs a liquor store. So in this case. I love his propensity for picking like appearance and body language. Totally. It's always got to be like look at him.

Don't listen to him. Look at him. Look at Trump. Look at how slick he is. Look at how his hair. Those old gestures. Yeah exactly. Don't engage with his thoughts or his opinions

or his research or anything like that. But that's the thing Alex can't. No of course not. It's too in depth. It's too hard for him. Right. It's like I would say within this 35 minute clip Alex Jones hits most of his greatest hits of lies.

And also comes in with some new ones that I'm going to debunk along the way. And then also. And things American pie also right. God damn what I wish he had. No he he. He's I don't know how to put a finer point on this. He's so busted.

He's just mad at himself. But one of the arguments that he makes is so absurd. It's it like it undercuts Alex Jones's entire philosophy. In attempting to attack fucking Keith Oberman. Right. He is attacking himself. Yeah when you punch a mirror your hand is fine. So let's get to this next clip so we can move this along

because I said there's like 23 clips. Jesus Christ. He yelled for 35 minutes about that's a good point. So this next one is about Trump's accomplishments. Many varied over delivered accomplishments. So many accomplishments. You're tired of accomplishing things. Sick.

You're going to get sick of accomplishing things. This is mental illness but it's more than that. It's called espionage. It's called treason. It's called aiding a foreign power to carry out criminal operations against your country. It's called being guilty of high treason. As though you were.

It's one thing trying to overthrow your government. Saying that more Russian agents should be part of our government. It's another thing when you do it with foreign powers. Then it's treason not just sedition. And it'd be one thing if Trump was really this foreign power and he was screwing us over like the globalists. But instead he's actually an American who really is restoring the country with all the globalists coming after us.

That's what globalism is. The UN, the IMF, the World Bank, the World Trade Organization. The TPP. Trump is literally pulling us out of the web and reforming it. Cut UN funding by 50 percent. World star hip hop. And says we've got to stop this American madman. Thought he was a Russian agent.

So in there he makes these sort of arguments about Trump's accomplishments. Sort of being like he's not a Russian agent. He's doing all this stuff. Which are none. Well I mean there's this super vague thing. If the globalists are real. I'm sorry. If the globalists aren't real.

Any accomplishment against them that isn't real is real. So like it doesn't really matter if you have a fake victory over a fake group. Great. It's like when he says that Trump has redeclared sovereignty. We what? What does that mean? Yeah. He redeclared sovereignty.

Great. He redeclared it. Okay. Yeah. Because like we declared it one time. Sure. And then we declared it again but he redeclared it. It's kind of like renewing your wedding vows.

Exactly. You weren't divorced before that. No. I don't know. You were divorced three times before that and you raped one of your former wives. She didn't write a book about it. Anyway the thing about cutting funding to the UN is really interesting. Because the funding that actually is going to be cut is a ton of humanitarian organizations.

Like food organizations and things like that. If you really look into the specific cuts that are going to have to be made to make his budget people who are involved with those organizations have said this will be the largest humanitarian crisis that we've ever faced. Oh do you mean poor people? I believe. This will be the largest we're going to fuck poor people since we passed the fucking AHCA. And the quote from, I can't remember his name.

It's kind of irrelevant. But like he's saying that this lack of funding we will not be able to make up from individual donors. Right. The amount of money that the U.S. gives to keep people alive in foreign countries, third world countries, medical relief. Re-declaring sovereignty. Food things. Sovereignty over food.

They're saying that it will entirely shift the nature of humanitarianism in the world. They don't care. Nope. They want people to- The consequences of this unfunding of the U.N. is not going to be some political gain. No. It is going to be massive deaths.

Thousands of thousands of people are going to die because of this. Way more than that. Way more. Way more. The amount of famine relief, the amount of disaster relief, those sorts of things. It's that's what's being cut. I mean he's not fucking funding North Carolina's Hurricane Relief Fund. Nope.

Also- Like you can't fuck poor people more than that. That's domestic. But that's what I'm saying. It doesn't fucking matter if you're worldwide or domestic. He doesn't give a fuck about poor people. True. But we got to keep it on the globalist tip for the U.N. stuff.

Globalist. I don't know. Have you ever- The U.N. needs to come into North Carolina for disaster relief. Yeah. That's genuinely what needs to happen. Fuck it. The free market will take care of it.

Yeah, right. So have you ever listened to interviews with like Romeo de Lair, the guy who was on the ground in Rwanda during the Civil War? The Hotel Rwanda thing? I will tell you this. He wished that the U.N. gave them less funding. Really? No.

Oh, god damn it. You were so fucking convincing. It's kind of the opposite. I was- There was a part of me that was like, wait, did they do like that global corporation thing where they really just kind of screwed everybody over and it was a temporary relief where it's like the moment they left,

all that shit started up again. No, it was not that- Kofi Annan and Butros Butros Gali were resistant to give the funding to do exactly what needed to be done in Rwanda and it caused countless deaths and genocide. Yep. And we're going to end up seeing more of that in war torn regions because of Trump's proposed lack of funding for the U.N.

It's not like we want to imagine or at least not we, but people like Alex want to imagine that this U.N. is a money suck. Yeah. And it's just trying to consolidate business interests and stuff like that and usurp our sovereignty. Right. And in reality, a lot of the money that we pitch into, it goes to keeping people alive.

And it's amazing that he can- It's a huge bummer. Like that's not a story. Like you and I, like most people, I would say 95% of people do not know that those are the cuts that he's making to the U.N. funding. And in the citations for this episode, I'll post a link to the specific information. So that basically means that they can get away with murdering.

But people are reporting it. It's just no one's picking it up. No, well, there's so much shit. It's not carrying on as a narrative. Yeah. And a lot of people just don't give a fuck. It's the same thing with- They're not Americans, so who fucking cares?

Fuck them. They're poor and brown. Exactly. So in the- God, that's America's philosophy. This next argument that he makes, I was really interested in it because he keeps talking about how like in his short time in office, Trump has boosted the stock market more than anyone ever.

Right. He sort of makes the argument that it's like it's a massive rise. Like a bubble. Well, that's one thing. I have read a couple economists talking about how we're going to be okay for a little while. Oh, it's going to come fucking crashing down. But the end result of this will be the biggest crash that we've ever seen.

Yeah, absolutely. Because like the sort of things that we're putting in place have no infrastructure. It's unsustainable. It's just on hubris and hot air. But I wanted to look into the specifics of percentage of the stock market's growth in the president's first 100 days in office. Right.

You want to know who number one was? Clinton? No. Our man, Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Oh, yeah. Well, but he had the benefit of the single worst thing that's ever happened. So literally anything he did, it would go up. In 1933, he came to office and he raised the stock market by 79.62 percent,

which again is kind of unfair. But I mean also the stock market was so far. Yeah, so far. But also zero. It was a zero. Also just not having Hoover in there who was actively fucking people over was just the fact that you have somebody who espoused some socialist belief meant the stock market was going to go up.

And then the new deal, of course, fucking led to a period of consistent growth for 40 years. And then somebody dismantled the new deal and somehow everything started going to fucking shit. It's interesting. Actually, Hoover's first 100 days in office wasn't terribly bad. We only saw 1.32 percent decrease in the stock market. But then it fell apart. Hoover was elected in what?

29. 29. Yeah. Or he took office in 29. 28. Yeah. No. So that's number one.

Donald Trump is actually number five on the list of the biggest growth in the stock market in the first 100 days with a 5.32 percent change. How about was Bush Jr. number three? No, Bush Sr. was number three. Ah, shit. In 1989, it was a 7.93 percent growth. You know who number four was? Obama.

Barack motherfucking Obama. Yeah. In 2013, 7.51, almost a 2 percent better growth of the stock market in his first 100 days of his second term. Of course. Suck a dick, Alex. Like your own stats there, the guy who you hate is better than your guy. Yeah.

It's insane. Why doesn't anyone look this up? Why doesn't Alex look this up? Because nobody gives a fuck. I know. Nobody gives a goddamn fuck about whether or not something is true. I was talking to my dad and it was just literally like, oh, well, I assume everything is fake news now a day and you're like, no, you can't possibly, that's abdicating your

responsibility as a human being. Yeah, totally. Abdicating your responsibility as a human being to do any fucking thing. We've been over this on the podcast. It's not the media's responsibility to be right all the time. Right. It's their responsibility to try and follow certain guidelines. And if they're wrong, make a correction.

It's every citizen's responsibility to engage with news that you get. And if something seems a little weird, don't trust it. Look into it. And everyone is just giving up on that. There is something about, I will never remember the quote and I'm probably going to paraphrase it and screw everything up. But without an informed citizenry, democracy cannot flourish. Shakespeare.

Oh, I have heard that quote. It's one of the founding father dudes. Yeah, probably. Yeah, it's, yeah, of course. One of the founding father dudes. One of those bros. One of those slave owners. One of those cool bros.

So in this next clip, we get some more projection and just overall, Alex not getting the point of Keith Oberman's video. I've watched Oberman quite a bit. He is literally having a mental breakdown here and is absolutely scared. These people are crazy. They thought they ran America. That's their power trip. That's their identity.

And now they've lost their identity and they are hitting the panic button. And there's liberal professors everywhere calling to kill Trump supporters. Name one to kill Trump. Nothing's being done about it. Name one guy for a magazine reaching millions of people. Saying kill everybody. So right there, right there. What happened?

What happened right there? This is important. What is that? Is video just, hey, I'm Keith Oberman. Kill everybody. 01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:35,840 Well, what happened there was like Alex, the long pause was because Alex said that he reaches millions of people and they had to be like, Oh shit, I've just said that.

I'm supposed to say everyone's audience is tiny. Yeah. Shit. So he got into his headspace and then he realized, I don't know what he's saying. Right. I didn't watch this twice. I can't engage with the material.

So, oh, you must be saying kill everybody. I think he probably did watch it twice, but I think our larger issue is that he doesn't have any comprehension skills. Information synthesis. Yeah. Well, and then there's the fact that I guarantee he watched it. Do you think like Wernicke or Broca's area in his brain is just damaged? Like the idea of like he can't take in communication appropriately?

That's an interesting question. It's possible. I don't think that's something that we could even really kind of speculate on because, one, I don't know enough about it to have any. I'd like to start a Kickstarter to get a CT scan. And unlike many people in the commentary industry, I would prefer not to comment wildly on something I know zero about. That's sort of a hallmark of our show.

All of the stuff that you just said, like the different parts of that brain, no idea what you were talking about. They're the sort of parts of the brain that are responsible for ingoing and outgoing communication. Oh, well, now that I know that, I absolutely agree with you. His brain is damaged. One too many putting some other dudes into a coma situation. Yeah.

So, back to it. He basically disagrees with and that we're at war with Russia and Russia's scum. In fact, here's the Russian scum clip first. Here it is. The nation and all of our freedoms hang by a thread. And the military apparatus of this country is about to be handed over to scum, who are beholden to scum, Russian scum. All right.

Now, let's start going out to break with the first clip where he calls on all intelligence agencies and citizens. Everyone else overthrow Trump. Stop him. The world. Come to America. Attack us. I'm Keith Overman and this is The Resistance.

I appeal to the intelligence agencies and the governments of what is left of the free world, to them as entities, entirities, as bureaucracies making official decisions, and to the individuals who make decisions of conscience, to GCHQ and MI6 in the UK, to the BND in Germany, the DGSE in France, the ASIS in Australia, and even to the GRU in Russia where they must already be profoundly aware that they have not merely helped put an amoral cynic in power here, but an uncontrollable one. All right, let's stop there. And this is Jay.

That is the problem. He's not controlled by the globalists. So now you're more honest. You want the foreign powers who did malign our election, the EU got involved, the globalists got involved, the UN got involved, the Saudis got involved, the Pope got involved, the Chinese dictator got involved, Cuba got involved, Mexico got involved, Canada got involved, but you couldn't stop the American people. You got your asses handed to you.

And now you want the whole world to gang up on us more. You dirtbag traitor. His ass needs to be in a super max prison. He is a classic Alex right there. That makes me happy. That's like, I know I can suck on a law's inch. We're going to break. I'm going to I'm going to fucking do this.

That's some classic. That's some classic Alex Jones right there. Get ready. Get ready. I've been missing some of that. Get ready for a lot more of it. Yeah. This, this, the rest of this episode is classic Alex plus like his media criticism skills.

Like I don't want you to, I do want you to get your stopwatch out because I don't want you to count out loud over these clips, how long it takes him to interrupt them, but it's buck wild. And the reason I apologize, the reason I put my hand up and was like, hold on, was because I wanted that to play like Keith Oberman's intro. Right. Because he replays it and interrupts the fuck out of it. And I wanted everyone to be able to hear what he was saying in a coherent sentence

because if you just take Alex's analysis, you'll never know what he was actually saying. The, the thing that I like before I even thought about Alex listening to that Oberman clip is that is Oberman is being very reckless. Yeah. That idea that's a little capricious, that idea that you're talking about Russian scum taking over the election is very much a, well, that's an old clip. Oh, is it? Yeah.

That was from a couple of months back. The, the Russian, he's just getting it now. No, he, he yelled about it back then too. No, I mean, Alex. Oh, no, I think we just didn't cover it back then. I think, I think he didn't, he didn't tee off like he did today. No, I think, I think one of the things that gets me about all of this debate and all of this conversation is that nobody is clearly delineating

that the Russian people are not a problem. It is very few people in the Russian government. It is very few people in the United States government. Like these are, it's fucking Alex Jones. Like it is not people. Well, they are people. And so, no, but, but I mean like the, the idea of, the idea of America is at war with Russia. Right, right, right.

That's not what's really going on. What's going on is the Russian government wants a pro-American government and nobody cares about all of the people living in America or. You got it twisted. Russia wants an American pro-Russia government. Yeah, yeah. Now I'm, now I'm. Or at least a neutral and we're not getting involved.

Non-intervention. Right, right. So, so all of this is because guys like Keith Oberman and Alex Jones always boiled it down to nations. Yeah. And it is not. No, and that's why I don't defend Keith Oberman. I still think he's a little, a bit wrong.

This is. I think if I had to. That's reckless. If I had to side with one, I think the goals of Keith Oberman are way better than the goals of Alex Jones. Agreed. But I don't, I still, yeah, absolutely. His rhetoric is a little bit unhinged.

But just like we were talking about earlier, that is the, that is the question of, we all know that there's some interference. Yeah. How do we solve this problem without also sparking a war? Right. So, neither of these parties are going to do it. No.

01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:59,520 So, Oberman's goals, I get, are the same as ours. But for us, the ends do not justify the means. Well, no, they do. Like if you want to get rid of Trump, but that means we have to declare war? Well, I don't know. I do, I think. 01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:13,040 At least in my own head.

Yes. We don't have the proof that would justify a war. Okay. But if it is the case that there is active involvement with the hostile foreign power. Right. I do think that we just have to suck it up and we have to go to war. Like I think it's a terrible outcome, but. Oh man, that's a long conversation between you and me.

Maybe we'll do that off air. Yeah, no kidding. Because this is already shaping up to be a seven and a half hour long episode as it is. I don't want to start talking about my peacenik philosophy. Despite the fact that I've already called for a revolution, I don't know. And the murder of our president. Not murder. The justified.

Right, right, right. The justified execution. Right, right. Very different from a murder. Well, I would say that if we can't get undue influence out of our body politic without a war, we have to go to war because the alternative is the erosion of our government, the erosion of democracy. Right.

And then we lose everything here. The problem there is that we have no moral high ground whatsoever. None. We have done. We never have, though. No, no. We've done exactly what Russia has done to us. The real reason that we're angry is not because of the doing of it.

It's that it's happening to us. But that's human. No, no, and I understand that. That's not wrong. I'm not saying that there isn't an internal logic to wanting to declare war there. I don't want to make the argument of America first because I'm not on that bandwagon, but if someone punches me, it's way more, I feel that more than if someone punched you. I'd be empathic and I wouldn't enjoy you getting punched or anyone,

any stranger getting punched. I'm not thrilled with it. I hope I wouldn't like that. But if someone punched me, it's way more immediate. I got to take care of it. Right. I have to respond somehow, probably by running away. Now, strangely enough, this is one area where I'm going to go full religion on you.

Oh boy. There is a reason that Jesus has resonated throughout time and it sure as fuck isn't the Bible. No. Like I fully subscribe to the philosophy of, look, Russia did this. We corrected it. Look, like, here's what, here's my, let me put it to you this way. All right.

Here's my response to 9-11. We build the tower the exact same. We give no, there's no record of them doing it. There is no nothing. Except for all the dead people. There is nothing, but that's the point. I don't disagree. The point is what they want is us to react in this way.

I don't disagree with you in terms of 9-11, but I think that what we're getting off track is that what I'm saying is if there is no way to correct this without triggering a war, a war has to happen. If there is a way to correct this without it, that's the preferable path. That's a good, that's sort of where you and I, that's where our hearts are at. And that's what we would like to see happen. Right. But because of the existence of people like Alex Jones and Keith Oberman,

it seems incredibly unlikely. Yeah. This is a conversation for another time. And Alex Jones has some thoughts about, he has some thoughts about like, you know, like what happens to treasonous people. So good. If he was a crazy guy on the street corner, the cops wouldn't do anything. The FBI, everybody has to do something.

This is clear, clear, absolute organized crime, treason, espionage. Calling on foreign powers for a coup is high treason. Organized crime, treason, espionage. Three different things. They're hung by the neck of the dead, that's how the army still does it. Or firing squad. I guess you can pick either one. And I'm serious, man.

If I was calling for foreign governments to come over through our country, I deserve a firing squad. Let me tell you something, 60 years ago, he would be in front of a firing squad in about a month. Okay. So would you. I'm serious. Now, hold on.

This is, this is the foundation. This is the foundation. Alex believes that if you commit treason, if you try and induce people to take over our government. Do you mean like saying that the Russians should inf... God damn it. I mean, he only implied that earlier. Nothing is real.

But like, you know, the consequence is being hung till dead. That is, that he has established that. We've talked about that in the past. That's the, that's the consequence for treason. But now it's coming out of Alex's mouth. So now we know. Which again, like my, my peacenik bonafides are ruined. Out the window.

Ruined by the fact that Alex Jones is calling for a very similar thing that I am, but for a different guy. Just for Oberman. Yeah, exactly. But so now we know that he believes that. That's, that's in his sort of head space. So let's, let's move on a little bit. And look how mentally ill he is.

That guy that grew up never in the real world. 01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:05,040 The squirrel brat on bathtub boy, because he'd hide in the bathtub and wouldn't do his TV shows. He's a total mental patient. And then he wants to sit here and call for our president to be overthrown. And just look how mentally ill he looks. Look at how weak his whole identity is in running the government.

And being a liberal fake. We, and then now he isn't getting what he wants. And he sees America coming back from the dead. He's so pissed. He now abandons the fact that Trump's run by foreign powers because he's not. And he wants foreign powers to come in. See, that's the traitor right there. That's the anti-americans comeback.

I love America. I love our republic. I love prosperity. I'm loyal to this country. My family's always been loyal. This guy is not an American. This is a dirtbag liar that thinks he's better than you. He thinks you're a bitter clinger.

He's an elitist. Look how freaked out he is because you got beat. Well, that's a part of the narrative. But also, I just want to point out that in the past episode, we discussed how Alex talked about his family fought for the south. Yeah, a loyalist. They've always been loyal to this republic. Very loyal.

And then another one, but this one particularly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He also gave a speech at the Alamo a couple of years back that was dicey. It's Mark Dicey. But yeah, what were you saying? The narrative. The bitter clingers. He thinks he's better than you.

He thinks he's better than you. That's the one. That's the one that people are going to latch on to. He's yelling at you because he thinks he's better than you. I'm yelling at you because I love you. That's the fucking divorce stepdad situation going on right there. I hate you. I hate you because I love you.

Exactly. So now we're entering the section of the show where he might interrupt every clip immediately. It's going to be great. Hold on. I'm going to let you talk here real quick. Let me let me let you finish. Let's go to this mental patient.

I'm Keith Overman and this is the resistance. I appeal to you. Keith, you damn plagiarist. We are the resistance to you. The globalist ganged up on America. You're not the resistance. You plagiarist. I'm the resistance.

My audience is the resistance. And guess what? We kicked your teleprompter rearing ass to the moon. So that's the first instance of teleprompter threats. Teleprompting ass to the moon. Yeah. So just remember that. Keep track.

That's one. But also like, come on, man. You didn't come up with the term resistance. No, he did. It's plagiarism. Nobody's ever thought about it before. Well, except Will Shakespeare. Almost every piece of fiction.

Maybe not every piece of fiction, but tons of them that involved resisting. Yeah. But see what happened is he was the resistance, right? Alex. Now, Overman is the counter-resistance. And now we can see that he is the counter-counter-resistance. Don't say too much about that.

You're going to tip my hand in terms of something very important. OK. So that, I mean, that's petty and very quick. Here, Alex gets a little bit threatening. Let's go back to this. Let's go back to Nancy. Here he is. I'm Keith Overman, and this is the resistance.

I appeal to the intelligence agencies and the governments of what is left of the free world. Oh, man. You know, hit pause again today. I'm going to come back to this after a break, because I'm going to give you a little message. All the real people in intelligence agencies around the world don't want to sell their countries out

and don't want globalism and don't want poverty and want a future for their kids. I'd say 80%. Same thing with the FBI. You're appealing to people that just helped Trump win the election, dumbass, because they're sick of people like you running everything. Understand?

You're a peep. So hold on. I didn't want to pause it there. The FBI helped Trump get elected because they're sick of people like Overman. It's irrelevant. Don't worry about that. OK, never mind.

What I think is more important is that only 85% of people don't want their kids to live in poverty. Very weird, very weird statistic. No, they want to end the family and then make sure the kids grow up in poverty. So apparently, the globalists are 15% of the population. I think everybody knows that 85% of the people

want to make sure that school lunches are healthy and contain, wait, no, that's nobody. That's nobody in the GOP. Also, 85% throwing that around. That's a big number. It's a 5% nation talk right there. Ya-ku-b. Feeling the people that know you're a pile

of steaming dog manure, OK? Oh, you appeal. So they're trying to sell the idea of a violent overthrow and a civil war. Hey, jackass, you better pray there's not a civil war because I guarantee you, you're the one calling for all this. I guarantee you, son.

Sunny boy. Sunny boy. That's sunny boy. Sunny boy. Don't open that door. That's sunny boy. Three times. The cops.

No idea outside of that door. You little chicken. You little wimp. You little nilly punk. You open that gate. You have no idea. Let's just go out to break. I don't come out for the research.

So Alex Jones is really mad. Yeah. He's, someone is- It's a dominance thing for him, though. Totally. It has nothing to do with, it has nothing to do with- This is personal.

Anything that he says. It's all about- It's very personal. Look at this guy who presents himself as an alpha male to the left. But he doesn't. I have to- No, but that's what Alex is thinking.

He thinks that's what- That's what Alex is seeing, right? Yeah, yeah. Is a man doing his shtick of yelling about overthrowing a globalist government. And so he has to alpha male it. But, but Alderman really

doesn't yell that much. No, but that's not, that's not the point to Alex. Maybe everybody is yelling all the time. That's fair. That's entirely possible. Yeah. But, but the point is he,

well, he's not yelling, but he is speaking forcefully directly to all the world governments of what is left of the free world. Now you're doing a wrestling promo. Yeah. Well, that's what he's doing. Yeah.

So that's what Alderman did. This next clip is a story in two parts. Okay. The first is from, is the next thing he says when he comes back from break. And the thing after that will be horribly embarrassing for Alex.

To all of them and to the world's journalists, I make this plea. We, the citizens of the United States of America are the victims of a coup. We need your leaks, your information, your intelligence, your recordings,

your videos, your conscience. The civilian government and the military of the United States are no longer in the hands of the people, nor in the control of any responsible individuals. All right, pause. I can't help but back it up five seconds.

We had an election. Trump's restoring the Republic. He's restoring the Constitution. He's restoring jobs. He's restoring sovereignty. Give one reason. Give one reason. He fired the guy the Democrats all called on

to be fired, coming. You can't just say that. And then Obermann just says it's a coup. That means it's unelected. So he now wants foreign governments to overthrow that. That's called a coup. So total inversion of reality by the Scott.

Here it is. Inversion of reality. I think that Alex Jones really needs to stop saying coup. Coup? Because here is a clip of Steve Pachennick on Alex Jones' show just after the election. So Dr. Pachennick, what do you think

is really going on here? Well, you know, Alex, you and I have been together for a long time. And one of the things that was so obvious and people really didn't get it was when I got onto your show and I said several months ago that Hillary and Bill had affected a civil coup.

That wasn't, you know, ex-cathedra. That was not ad hominem. That was a very definite problem that we in the intelligence community, the selective part of the intelligence community, much of whom were involved, were military people. I'm not going to the specifics. And I warned you, we would do a counter coup.

We did. It was done through emails, through Julian Assange. I will not name individuals. I've always said Julian Assange was really a hero for America. I guarantee that Russia was not involved. I have high respect for Vladimir Putin.

I've worked with the Russians. I helped to take down the Soviet Union. I still have a very high respect for the Russians. The Russians did not need to hack into anybody's account. They can hack anything they want. So can the Chinese, but we do too. The real issue at hand is that Hillary failed miserably. And $1 billion worth...

Doug, I'm sorry to interrupt. The sun's shooting into your camera. It might also damage it. Can you tilt it down so it doesn't burn out? So hold on, hold on, hold on. There is nothing Alex will not interrupt. We have to finish the rest of the clip, but it's so funny,

because then for like the next five minutes, there's just some like assistant scampering around, trying to close his curtains. They can't figure out how to close the curtains. It's kind of like a little bit of physical comedy. It was 100% not intended, but I loved. Just like this guy. He tries on the left side.

Like a three stooge's sketch? He tries on the like on the right side. And he's like, this isn't working. So then it has to go all the way around to the right side. It's hilarious. That's fantastic. So yeah, no problem. This is as we started talking,

the sun shot into the lens. Thank you. Well, that may be too much light. On this issue, but the bottom line is, look at what really happened. That was a damn freeze. Look what's really happened subsequently has nothing to do with Hillary

and almost nothing to do with Obama. We have been able to play through Trump. Mathis, Secretary of Defense. Michael Flynn, the White House. Kellogg in the White House. Homeland security, military. Look at all the military positions. The Department of Interior.

But do you get what he's saying? Yeah. Like, I don't... It's exactly what he... Yeah. I don't necessarily believe all of Steve Pocenic's stories, but he's coming on Alex Jones' show and Alex Jones is congratulating him

for hypothetically performing a coup to take the presidency and place people in certain offices. It's a counter coup. One of them. Counter coup is fine. One of them that he mentions is Mike Flynn, who has since registered as a foreign agent that he was lying about back then.

Counter coup. How great could his vetting have been about these people that were involved in his coup that he would not... Would he have not known that Flynn was in the employee of Turkey? Would he have not known that? The level of ignorance that Trump could experience...

I'm talking about Pocenic at this point. Oh, Pocenic. Yeah. Ooh, that's a good question. Pocenic have not known that Flynn was working for Turkey? Is that possible? I don't know. I don't know.

I don't either. The fact that he says it's a... And you're right. He's mentioning working with Julian Assange. Yeah. So, like, even there is a foreign interest. Yeah, exactly. So, like, Alex...

I've always said Julian Assange, not American citizen, was a hero because he unduly influenced an American election. So, based on what we've already established about Alex's beliefs about what happens when you commit treason... Right. Steve Pocenic, Alex Jones, Mike Flynn, Kellogg,

Mattis, all should be hung on the street. Two can't say them. Two can't say them, also hung on the street. Don't tell me to follow my nose! Yeah! How dare you! That's condescending. No, but yeah.

No, you're exactly right. So, they're fine with it if it's Julian Assange leaking this shit that was clearly given to them by a foreign agent. But if Olbermann says foreign agents, please leak this shit, then it's treason. It's all so cockamamie. It's all...

And again, he's pulling this inverted reality. Oh, this is a complete inverted reality. And like, I don't know. It's so weird to not have a team in this fight, but hate both. Yeah. Like, it's so fucking insane for me because I'm like, I don't fully support what Olbermann's saying.

Right. So, this is the central question to my response to Olbermann's bullshit. Is it worthwhile to get rid of Trump by then devaluing all of American intelligence? Like, do you see what I'm saying right there? No. Okay.

Not as phrased. Yeah, that's a... I really phrased that poorly. Are you saying... So, what is the... Is it better to get rid of Trump by any means? Or is it... Is there a way to get rid of Trump that's the right way?

Do you see what I'm saying? That's the central dilemma, I think. Right. So, okay. So, we get rid of Trump by this leak. Right? So, then we put in the next guy, which right now would be Pence. But if there is a leak, we have to assume that it goes to the Speaker of the House.

I would say Hatch. I think Ryan's been compromised, too. There's some indications that he, at very least, was having conversations about money shit with Kilsiak at the convention. Fuck. It's all over. Yeah. And with that raid that they just did on the strategic campaign group.

Right. But that was in association with stuff that was happening in 2013, right? Necessarily. That might be a bit of a smoke screen. And I don't want to buy into conspiracy theories. Right. Because... Even though we do a conspiracy theory podcast.

Right. But you have to be incredulous of stuff. Yeah. And it is entirely possible that there isn't a ton of connection and what have you. But the timing is also very suspect. And the fact that the guy who was running that company has connections to Roger Stone and Paul Manafort. Of course.

He used to work for their firm. Right. He used to be a principal at their firm. Right. And on top of that, this strategic campaign group has... I don't know if I can fully explain it necessarily, but deep Robert Mercer ties. Oh God. Robert Mercer is...

That campaign, the strategic campaign group created a political action committee for what's his name. Big mustache, UN guy for Bolton, John Bolton. Oh, OK. Yeah, now I know your term. Created a political action committee for John Bolton. And the only person who donated to it was Mercer. And it was consistent donations of $500,000.

Yeah. And... I think Mercer is one of the... I would say Mercer got Trump elected at like 70%. And we'll get to that a little bit further in the future. We're going to get to that in a little bit. OK. But the idea is that that raid also...

It looks like it had something to do with Mercer and Cambridge Analytica. Yeah. Those sorts of... Who we should not talk about because they are fucking watching us. Those sorts of influences on the campaign. In addition, like there's Russia stuff on the side. Right. But the shit that they were doing was dubious.

It's pretty wild. Yeah. No, the more you research Cambridge Analytica, the more you're like, AI is taking over. Yeah. Like it's insane. Big data is scary. I think this again gets back to our earlier conversation.

I want to get rid of Trump in a way that kills the fewest amount of people. Right. Maybe one. And the way... Five. A lot of them should just rot in prison. Yeah. Yeah.

But the problem therein lies if Olbermann does it this way, then if it is foreign agents doing that, then we're in a full-on chaos mode. Sure. 01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:15,920 Sure. Like who trusts who anywhere. At all. Yeah.

Like if it's... Like that is world war. That's not war with Russia. That's war with every intelligence agency because who knows who's doing what and when and why and when it like, what will they do this time? I think that you, me and Keith Olbermann agree that there's a problem. Here's what I'm trying to say. Yes.

So we see like... I think you, me and Olbermann and frankly Alex Jones and fucking everybody else in the world right now agrees there's a problem. We don't... Nobody can agree on what it is or how to take care of it. You, me and Olbermann agree on what the problem is. Right. So just for the sake of framing this metaphor, there's a bottle,

there's a glass bottle of ketchup that's falling off the counter and you know that it's going to break when it hits the ground. Uh-huh. So our response to it would be either try and catch it or get a rag and clean it up, whereas, you know, Olbermann's, his response might be throw a bottle of mustard at him. Let's try and invalidate that. Make hot dogs. Yeah.

Let's just make a bigger mass. That's a, that's a very good, that's a very good metaphor. It's not very good. It's fine. It's a good metaphor. Okay. So it made me understand what it is we are. Yeah.

No, it was a good metaphor. But at the same time, we've gotten way off track from the fact that Alex Jones legitimately for the last six months to a year has been pitching an entire narrative on his show that has to do with a counter coup to an imagined coup. Right. By Hillary Clinton and, uh, you know, George Soros and Barack Obama. Which if you were cooing against an imaginary coup, that is just a regular coup. Right.

Now, if you, if, if Steve Pachanik wants to come on the podcast, I'd love to talk to him. But that's number one. Number two, the first question I would have is please prove that there was a coup going on that you were responding to. Right. Because if there was, that makes things a little bit different. Yeah. That makes, I mean, I don't think his actions are defensible and I think he's

lying about most of the things he's done, but at the same time, I don't think, I don't think there was the original coup. I think it was hatred of Hillary and conservative. We got to do what we got to do. Right. Kind of mentality. Racism. Right.

And so tax cuts for the rich. I mean, even fucking Steve Pachanik doesn't believe Sandy Hook happened. So like he is not a real great source. God damn it. So like his idea that we were just, I mean, we were just doing a counter coup. Right. That is a coup. Whatever you were doing, no matter how effective it is, no matter how much you're lying about it,

you had the intention of overthrowing our government. Yeah. Agreed. Now, just because you were overthrowing the government while the government was between administrations, doesn't really matter. Or just because you think you were overthrowing the government for a good reason. Right. That is even suspicious.

That's the biggest, that's the biggest issue when you start throwing coup around is like, oh, well, it's fine if we did a counter coup because we did the coup for the right reasons. Right. So that just. According to us. Yeah. That just validates anybody who wants to do, like that's vigilante justice in the same way. Like we know he's guilty, so that justifies us with doing anything.

Well, that's why. So now that becomes a perspective issue. 01:54:42,080 --> 01:54:46,080 So now everybody is justified in doing everything that they want. But totally. Totally. In the scope of what they believe to be justice. And you know what?

That's why this entire rhetoric of inverting reality is so dangerous. Right. Because if I just make the argument that you've inverted reality, then no matter what you say, it doesn't matter. No. If I say that you are just, you're completely wrong about everything, you're inverting reality, you're blah, blah, blah, then it entirely invalidates you. Or if I call you a literal demon.

Right. That I can smell sulfur coming off. I've heard reports. It doesn't matter what I say. It doesn't matter what you say, you're a demon. Yeah. Even on this podcast, we're like 40 something episodes into it now. Like we hate Alex Jones, but we'll give him credit when he makes a good point.

Like he's not incapable of telling the truth. No. He just seems to lie all the time. Right. And that's the difference. I would never accuse him of like all he does is invert reality. Right. He lies all the fucking time.

He lies all the fucking time. So like this it's. And generally speaking, he lies in such a way that leans into the truth. Like. Interesting. Meaning, meaning here is a, here is a reality right here. And he lies almost like a fucking knife directly through it. Trying to break any kind of continuity there.

That's fair. So, so long as you can lie in this certain spot, you can never allow that kind of continuity to continue with the reality. I'll tell you this, Rihanna does not love the way he lies. I agree with you. I've been trying to transition to a clip about inverting reality for about the last two minutes. So my, my transition games are not strong. Which means once again, Rihanna has saved us both.

Yeah. So here we go. He has some thoughts about inversion of reality. Total inversion of reality by the Scott. Here it is. Who can rely the first step towards compromising our FBI occurred Tuesday with the unilateral firing of its director by the president prompted by the attorney general, both of whom are or were at least in theory, possibly to be under investigation by the FBI as led by that director

they fired. Our CIA is run by one of that president's political appointees. The first national security advisor was fired and may have been a Russian stooge. The second national security advisor has reportedly been yelled at by the president because he had had the temerity to disagree with him. He got yelled at? Our State Department is in the hands of useless amateurs. Our United Nations mission is bereft of power and uninformed.

Hit pause again. And the White House. Rex Tillerson, if anything is compromised, bringing in Condoleezza Rice and is a global expert who's worked in over 160 countries. So again, that's more false statements. Pure bull out of a guy openly calling for foreign governments to overthrow our president. Here's why that clip started with the inversion of reality thing. And I cut it where I did.

Rex Tillerson Tillerson. Is it Tillerson or Tillerson Tillerson Tillerson. Yeah, he has been an oil CEO who's been to 160 countries. Been to a lot of countries. He got on a plane. That's not the same as diplomacy. Not the same as diplomacy. It's not.

I assure you it's not oil. I saw there will be blood. It's the same thing as diplomacy. But you understand that's the. If I said I was an oil man. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. The inversion of reality is that like he's worked in these countries.

He's been there. He's a great Secretary of State. The inversion of reality is Alex. He's pretending that he's qualified to be the Secretary of State because he's talked to CEOs in other countries. Right. Whoop-de-shit. That means nothing.

I went to London. I can ambassador ship that shit. Absolutely. Yeah. You're the fucking ferraja this podcast. I've been there. The ferraja. Wow.

That is maybe the worst thing anybody's ever said to me. I apologize. So this next clip just gets into straight up lies and I got some facts. This is naked treason and this arrogant SLB thinks it's okay. Here it is. Run by a cabal of an amoral family syndicate that has spent its first three months slapping a dollar sign on anything that stood still long enough. A cabal with, at its head, a man with seemingly no interest in our laws,

in our rights, in our Constitution, and with a brain that appears to not work properly. Through our own negligence, the resentments and stupidities of millions of us, and the boundless greed of our elite class, our democracy has all but slipped away from us. It hangs today by a thread, and those who could protect it and restore it and fight for it, even at this late date, the Republican politicians whose voices today could force Trump out of office tomorrow. They are almost silent, owned by special interests, and silenced by a power that's even.

Back it up. Trump is the only president in 50 plus years who put Pence in charge. I really wanted just to cut there. He's the only president in 50 years to put Pence in charge. Yep. Absolutely true. That's true.

It's not. That's true. No, that's a true thing. Yeah, but it goes on. Get rid of all, all of the special interests, all of the lobbyists, and to put bans on them. Didn't do that. And bans on whoever works for him being lobbyist for over a decade. Definitely didn't do that.

The special interests are almost unanimously against him. Goldman Sachs gave all its money to Hillary. Jay-Z Morgan Chase, all its money. Some will argue, well, he's hired Goldman Sachs folks to run things because they know how to run things, following his orders. Some will make a rational argument. What happened in our economy. So again, Overman, you are a liar.

Speaking of liars, I... Let's find out how much money Goldman Sachs and Jay-P Morgan gave to each candidate. Dan. I'm going to go to you. I mean, if you really want to play this game first, we can. Jay-P Morgan Chase gave $1.172 million to Hillary Clinton. Right. Goldman Sachs gave $1.050 million.

So just over a million dollars from both of them to Hillary Clinton. They didn't give anything to Trump, as far as I can tell. But those were like, that's not that much money for big banks to give to a presidential candidate. The University of California almost gave $2 million to her. That's weird. And then a offshoot of Google, Alphabet Incorporated gave $1.5 million. Emily's List, a political action committee that tries to get more women involved in politics. More Emily's involved.

Yeah. They have a list of them. They gave $1.3 million. Emily Browning. All of those are above Jay-P Morgan Chase and Citigroup. Yes. Or I'm sorry, Goldman Sachs. Citigroup also gave about a million.

Yeah. But if we look at Trump's donators, and this is through the Freedom of Information Act, all this stuff is public. No, of course. His number one donator is Renaissance Technologies. They gave $15,511,600. Fuck! That's a lot of money.

Renaissance, what do they do? You want to know what they do? I do! They're a company that's- I assume that you didn't know and you just pulled that fact out of nowhere. They're a company that's owned by Robert Mercer. Yeah. We mentioned him earlier.

He's a left-wing lunatic. He's the guy who's responsible for the funding of Breitbart. Robert Mercer is not a left-wing lunatic. Oh, sorry. Right-wing. He is the most right-wing lunatic. Okay. You got me scared that I said left-wing.

You did say left. Oh, I apologize. That's why I corrected you there. He's nutty. He's basically the purse of Steve Bannon. He's funded all kinds of things that he's been up to in the past. He's involved in Cambridge Analytica and Renaissance Technologies is a company of his

that gave $15 million to Trump's campaign bid. That whole self-funding canard of his campaign is bullshitting of his own money. Which he will absolutely recoup. He already has. He already has. Buy in Spain. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He made an investment campaign.

He didn't pay for it. The Chinese granting him a trademark on Trump, that alone will make him billions. So his second highest donator in the campaign was McMahon Ventures. Paid six. Vince McMahon? And Linda McMahon. Yeah.

Who is named Secretary of Small Business Administration. They gave $6,002,700. Jesus. So that might look like a little bit of pay-to-play kind of shit. No. Also, as much an understanding as I have of the pro-wrestling business, there's a real reason why she would want to be in charge of the Small Business Association. Really?

Yeah. Because there is a trend in pro-wrestling towards unionizing the wrestlers. They're not employees. They're free contractors. That's right. I read that. Yeah. They don't get insurance.

They have to pay for their own transportation between events and stuff like that. They're independent contractors. And the WWE has a vested interest in them never becoming employees. It would cost them millions of dollars to ensure them. It's a high-risk sport. Everyone gets injured all the time. Right. You have to pay for transportation for like 365 days a year for all of these people.

It would be insane. It is already insane that they're not employees. It's wildly abusive as a business practice. Very much. And so Linda McMahon, they obviously think it's worth it to pay Trump $6 million. And then on the off chance he gets in office, she becomes the head of the Small Business Association. No, of course.

Of course it's worth it. $6 million would be what, one year of their WWE travel? Not even that. Not even close. Not even close to that. They have a roster that's like, I mean, they have SmackDown and Raw. They do events on Mondays and Tuesdays for each of them. Right.

They do dark nights in cities on other nights that aren't televised. They have their pay per views. People are in different cities every day. Right. The amount would be insane. And each roster is like 40 deep, 50 deep. That's like hundreds of people you've got to pay for transportation. Not including, I mean, I don't know what the situation is with their like techs

and the people who actually do the building of the set pieces as it were. I don't know about that part of the business, but like, yeah, $6 million is nothing. Nothing. But so yeah, fuck that. It's almost as though there's a goddamn global cabal of rich people trying to fuck us over. So interestingly, his next highest funder is a business called GH Palmer Associates. And they gave $5,005,400 to the Trump campaign.

And that doesn't ring a bell necessarily. You don't know who that is. Nope. It's owned by a guy named Jeffrey Palmer, who is a man who in 1991 paid a $30,000 fine for laundering campaign contributions to support the blocking of the incorporation of San Clarita, California as a city. And the reason he did that is because he had a bunch of property in the town.

He knew his taxes would go up if it became incorporated as a city. And there would be all sorts of, you know, registrations, all kinds of things he'd have to follow, all sorts of rules. And so what he did is he had a big company. He had his employees donate to this anti incorporation cause and then he paid them back for it and then had to pay a $30,000 fine for it. Now he is still active to this day.

A $30,000 fine is fucking nothing to that guy. There is no punishment for these people. For giving money to try and subvert the will of people. There's no punishment for this. So I looked into him a little bit more and I found this awesome article in curbed.com. It's about Jeffrey Palmer. Developer Jeff Palmer has built more apartments in downtown Los Angeles than anyone else. More than 3000 and they're all fucking terrible.

His squat nearly identical fortresses with embarrassing names like the Visconti and the Medici aren't just ugly, although they are very ugly. They're vacuums designed to suck the life out of a neighborhood that has worked so hard to become lively in the past decade. So basically what he does is he comes in and makes cookie cutter. Yeah. He's a developer that fucks up. He makes projects.

That's what he does. Very, very expensive projects that specifically are designed to keep affordable housing out of neighborhoods. Of course. So this article goes on to give some of his worst hits. And here are a couple of them. Palmer wrote in an email to Los Angeles Magazine that he, quote, wanted to recapture downtown's former glory with the buildings,

which are collectively referred to barfingly as the Renaissance collection. He adds that his totally incomprehensible but kind of Italian 8 architecture style is actually historical. The Italians actually settled LA before the Spanish and Chinese. That of course is not in any way true. What the fuck? The Spanish founded LA in the late 1700s. What is he fucking talking about?

The Italians? Yeah. Wow. That's a complete inversion of reality. Yep. Palmer is the man responsible for destroying the very last building in the lost downtown neighborhood of Bunker Hill. The city wiped out most of the neighborhood,

which it deemed a slum starting in the 1950s. But there was one 1800s Queen Anne house left on Cesar Chavez Avenue in Figueroa street in the late 1980s when Palmer began to work there on the Orsini. It was called the Geese House and it was protected under preservation laws. There are plans in place to move the house to Angelino Heights, but Palmer's workers demolished it instead. Their excuse? A bulldozer had accidentally backed into it, making it unsavable.

It gets even more screwed up though. When the city suggested it might hold Palmer accountable for his actions, he sued the city. In the end, he only had to pay $200,000 and provided some public mitigations. Jesus. Which basically the public medications that we can find are that all of his amenities are private. So basically he has outward facing homes. Yeah.

So like if you walk down the street, it's just the facade of a building. But then interiorly, there'll be like a pool in a courtyard and shit like that. He has one building that has a fountain that is accessible to the public. And so that is his public mitigations. That's it. Yep. This is, we are living in the exact same circumstance as the roaring 20s. Like we're in robber barren territory.

Hold on, there's more to this. Palmer's potentially hurt efforts throughout the state to build more badly needed affordable housing. He's won two lawsuits to keep affordable apartments out of his buildings, including one over the PRO two that pokes a hole in the city's ability to make zoning laws that require affordable housing. According to LA magazine, affordable housing advocates often blame that decision, the one that Palmer was responsible for. When they point to the paucity of low income housing downtown.

So he's actively hurting the ability of people to get apartments. Yeah. Palmer's properties are according to Palmer's company 95% full. Rents range from about $2,000 to about $5,000, but the tenants don't actually seem to like it there. Quote, there are consistent complaints about trash and property damage around the premises, about the noise from other tenants, many are students, and about what people describe as lax oversights.

His company actually has its own management subsidiary that runs the building. So it's all his fault. Also, someone had emailed this article and they made an update that the Palmer's buildings are also magnets for break-ins, far more than any other downtown buildings. Plus they have tons of security cameras that don't seem to stop any of that. I read the article that was linked to about the break-ins and it's insane. The statistics in terms of like what you should expect for these buildings,

it's like eight times. Jesus. Yeah, they're just super easy to break into apparently. Wow. So that's his third biggest donator who's a shitty slumlord on a massive scale. Yeah. Yeah, who's next? No.

The NFL's team, the Houston Texans. That actually sounds about right. They gave over $2 million. The NFL is a slumlord operation if ever there was one. But why was it specifically the Houston Texans? I have no idea. I don't either. They fucking love Houston.

I have no idea. Alex Jones, he's the Texan. It's the Houston, the Texans. We got Robert Mercer, Linda McMahon, this slumlord, and then the Houston Texans. That sounds about right. Three out of four make total sense. So but like the argument there that we're talking about with Alex is shit. If you know more about the NFL's business model, then it's more shocking that all of the NFL didn't

02:12:11,920 --> 02:12:13,200 Or Roger Goodell. Yeah. Roger Goodell can go fuck himself. Right. But so like when you want to say that like Hillary's evil because she took a million dollars from JP Morgan, you got five times that from this shitty slumlord. Yeah.

You got six times that from Linda McMahon. Yeah. How much did Donald Sterling give? Yeah. There's no way of knowing. A lot of individual donations aren't really. Are through super packs in the like. Yeah.

I tried to find breakdowns of like the Donald Trump for president pack. 02:12:40,800 --> 02:12:43,120 And I just, I can't find it. And I don't think that's publicly available. It's very specifically not publicly available. That's the whole point of super packs. Like the idea that golden Goldman Sachs did not donate anything to Trump's campaign is fucking insane because I guarantee that individuals from Goldman Sachs

absolutely donated a shit ton of money totally to Trump. There's no way they didn't. So now we've got to get back to the other bullshit that was in that clip. Jesus. There's so much bullshit in there. Yeah. Like that one is like, all right. You can hang your hat on the banks, giving her money, whatever public banks.

Now we go back to the the lobbying thing. Uh-huh. Because Trump did put out an executive order that said that people can't lobby. I recall that for that. Unfortunately, a little bit after that it came out that he was just giving people secret waivers. Oh, what a surprise. He was giving lobbyists in his campaign secret waivers. That doesn't matter.

Who cares? Who cares? No, no. Right. Well, he promised that he would cut that. Like when he was campaigning, that was the one thing where you could not argue that. Sure. Specialists get rid of lobbyists.

The whole idea of saying I'm going to get rid of lobbyists is a good idea. Yep. One that should be done. Totally. And it seems like it has not been done even in the slightest. It is not. I am going to read to you from this New York Times article. The federal government's top ethics officer is challenging the Trump campaign's

issuance of secret waivers that allow former lobbyists to handle matters they recently worked on, setting up a confrontation between the Ethics Office and President Trump. The move by Walter M. Shab, Jr., the director of the Office of Governmental Ethics, is the latest sign of rising tension between Mr. Shab and the Trump White House. Mr. Shab has tried several times to use his limited powers to force Mr. Trump to broadly honor federal ethics rules, as well as the ethics order that Mr. Trump himself signed in late January. That's a bad start to the article.

That is the largest uphill battle there ever has been. The Ethics Office is trying to force the least ethical administration in any of our lifetimes to observe ethical norms. And their own ethical standards. Yeah, no. Just do what you said. Not even close. Constitutionally, he's already violated the emoluments clause 10 million times.

He should have been out of office on day one. Totally. The most recent request came late Friday when Mr. Shab asked every executive branch agency, including the White House, to give him, by June 1st, a copy of any waivers issued to political employees, allowing them to ignore any part of the executive branch's ethics policy, saying in his letter that he was, quote, advancing the mission of the executive branch ethics program.

Such waivers are typically issued when the administration wants to allow a new political employee to work on an issue, like federal housing or environmental policy, that involves people the new employee may have worked with previously. For example, Ernest J. Morins, the energy secretary in the Obama administration, was allowed to work on matters that involve general electric, even though Mr. Manez, as a nuclear physicist, had served on a general electric advisory board. About 70 such waivers were issued during the Obama administration.

Mr. Trump, in his ethics order, made several fundamental changes in this process, some of which Mr. Shab is challenging. First, Mr. Trump eliminated a prohibition imposed by Barack Obama in 2009 on the hiring of staff members who in the previous two years had lobbied the agency they now wanted to work for. Former lobbyists seeking jobs in Mr. Trump's administration must get a waiver from the ethics rules if they want to work on matters that overlap with their lobbying assignments in the previous two years.

But. Ah, there's a but. Mr. Trump has chosen to keep the waiver secret. He dropped a practice in place during the Obama administration that any waiver would be shared with the Office of Governmental Ethics and posted on the White House website or the ethics office website or on both. The combined result, eliminating the ban on hiring former lobbyists and keeping secret any waivers granted to new hires,

means the public has no way of knowing if Mr. Trump's staff are complying with the rules. Which they are not. Terminating the rules. The public has a very simple way of knowing whether or not Trump's staff is complying with the rules, whether or not anybody is complying with the rules, and so far publicly fucking nobody. Nope. So why would you imagine the secret bullshit is even coming close to complying with the rules? The article goes on to talk about how the idea of terminating the release of the visitor logs

to the White House only plays into that even more. That one is brutal. Yeah. So the idea of lobbyists don't even have to really do anything. They can just show up. They don't even need to hide this shit anymore. No. Like the idea that you give a nuclear physicist a waiver,

even though he's worked with GE in the past, you're like, dude, I don't even, he's a nuclear physicist. Like there's a part of me that's like, oh, he's a nuclear physicist? Fine. I'm good with it. No, I totally support that. I think that's oversight and it's great and it's public. That all is great.

That is like Obama giving waivers to people is, I mean, we don't like the idea of lobbyists being involved in things that they, but at the same time, if it's all out in the open and done officially, there are reasons for a nuclear physicist to work in the field that he used to work in. And it didn't even seem like he was doing lobbying. It was like, he just worked for GE in the past. Yeah. So the whole point of that waiver is like, we know you worked for them. We want to be way above board.

Exactly. You've worked for them. And so if you were not paying attention and if you just got the headline, former GE employee now working for the Obama administration, you would be like- On energy policy. Yeah, exactly. You'd be like, oh, there's something going on there. Instead of former GE employee who was also a nuclear physicist who has a clear expertise,

dude, that he gave to GE as well as the Obama administration instead of just this guy worked for them. Well, dude, what it is, is like Obama dotted his T's and crossed his eyes as it were. I know I got that backwards, but like he crossed his T's and dotted his eyes. Yeah, with little hearts. But Trump doesn't know how to write. Like that's basically what's going on. They were too careful.

He doesn't realize who cares, who gives a shit. I don't think they were too careful. I think Obama had to be exactly as careful as he was. Well, now we're getting into race shit. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. No matter what Obama did, he was fucked. And apparently, no matter what Trump does, nobody's going to stop him.

Yep. And that is all the evidence you need that we live in a profoundly racist society. Absolutely. Anyway, this next clip is about Comey a little bit, and then we get into... Do we get back to Oberman? It's pathetic what you claim. Back to Oberman. And those who could protect it and restore it and fight for it, even at this late date,

the Republican politicians whose voices today could force Trump out of office tomorrow, they are almost silent, owned by special interests and silenced by a power that exceeds even whatever dedication to freedom they once had, all but a few of them fall back into platitudes about the leader of the country firing the head of the FBI and precipitating a constitutional crisis in order to shut down the investigation of his possible high crime. Okay, let's hit pause again. Hey, Oberman, every major Democrat that goes on television or tweets from Hillary Clinton to her husband, to Nancy Pelosi, to Maxine Waters, to Michael Moore, all of them...

Well, we nailed everybody. Have come out and said, get rid of Comey, he's hard-able. But now you claim that's not the case, because you think your viewers are a bunch of idiots. And the type of folks that go to GQ to get their news and think they're smart, to watch you read off a teleprompter, the names of spy agents, he's like, oh my gosh, you're so smart. And every 30 seconds you look down at papers to imply you have notes and aren't reading on the teleprompter, shows your total acting deception. Mr. Baby. So that's teleprompter too, but also Mr. Baby.

We can move on to the next clip, because that's all stuff we've already covered. It's all that false equivalence. It's all that false equivalent shit about... I am going to deal with none of what you said. I am instead going to say what I want to say. And that, you know, hey, I'm going to pretend that what Democrats said about a different situation applies to this current situation. Whatever Democrats are doing, we're doing, but only to stop Democrats from doing what we're doing.

Now, unfortunately, in this next clip, Alex kind of loses track of what's going on. The hinges come off the door, and we see what's behind it, and we see what he's really mad about. Mr. Baby. Here it is. Mr. Baby. Jordan party infinitely rings its hands about timing and how troubled they are, and then they go back to calculating how they will most easily get re-elected. Well, let's hit pause again. I agree that a lot of Republicans are much of hand-ringing blue blood scum that we're going to remove from office through the ballot box, Dumbo,

not through martial law or civil insurrection or foreign powers and coup d'etats that you're calling for while you claim we've done that. We've got people running for office everywhere, winning, promoting prosperity, the Second Amendment, defending Christians' rights, defending our Republic, and you don't like it. Your time of kicking Christians around, and having deals with Islamists, and having their way of sexually mutilate women and put a jibs on little girls' heads and teach Islam in the schools are over. You left this track. You hated Christianity so much, you made a deal with radical Islam in Europe and the U.S. to bring it in, to cockle us, and basically wreck Lady Liberty in front of us while she's chained

down on a bed. And when we're chained down with a ball gag in our mouth, Americans aren't into bondage. And we're not going to be enslaved by East Coast, FOP, fake, pseudo-intellectual pieces of garbage reading off teleprompters. Do you understand, Oberman? Do you understand that you filthy, degenerate, un-American, seditious slimebag? Fill your hand. I hope you do. You disgrace your family. You are the biggest liar this planet's ever seen. And there are a bunch of old, stupid, Republican establishment people that really care what CNN and MSNBC still say or think, and they still are scared of you, Oberman, and still are impressed by you, Oberman. But most of us aren't impressed anymore, Oberman. The good news is that he's

totally in control. When he lets, when he lets it, when he's angry, it's because he lets his anger right, right. He's letting it out. He's letting the dogs off the leash. He lets himself accidentally expose, as you were saying, that this is all about this warped version of conservatism that is all about guns and Christian fear. No, there's no, like, does it, I worry that every single Republican conservative who throws the Constitution around has never actually read fucking word one, like they know the Second Amendment? Well, from listening to episodes from- And that's fucking it. Listening to episodes back from 2014, I can tell you that every single order that Alex Jones sends out from the Info War Store comes along with the

pocket Constitution. Right? Well, that's, that is the, that is the thing about it, is that at no point in time do they ever talk about fucking anything but the Second Amendment. And, and just- And even when they- Just like we saw, just like we saw. Even when they do, it's not nuanced. No, no, no. It's just- Second Amendment Christianity. That's fucking it. The end of what conservatives' ideology regarding the Constitution matters. But even in the case of Alex, it's not really about supporting those things. It's about fear. Yeah. It's about this, like, he gets into that idea of, like, you liberals are in bed with Islam and it's cuckolding us. Right. And so, like, that's- It's cuckolding us. It's not cuckolding us. It's cuckolds of our

heart. It's cucklin'. So, that, that was just nuts. That is nuts. That was nuts. But that's, it's so revealing. Yeah, but- It's so revealing. But, like, the, like, the thing about, the thing that we talked about last episode, too, was he's always priming people for the argument. This is, there's, there, like, fucking- Okay, you support the Second Amendment. Name the fourth. Sure. Like, what's- Search and seizure? What's the 17th? What's the 21st? Like, all of this shit, you go through all of these constitutional amendments, you and, and again, imagine, imagine the world where these amendments fucking happen. Like, it requires two-thirds of the states. It requires two-thirds of the Congress.

It requires two-thirds of all of this shit. It is impossible. Never. It is impossible to imagine amendments happening today. Never. Right? Never. You can't imagine one amendment to the Constitution. Other than maybe, in six months, an amendment very similar to a Simpson situation where it says, no Trumps. Like, that's it. No more reality show people. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That is an amendment I bet we could get two-thirds on. It's possible. But anyway, if you thought that last clip was crazy, you're not ready for this clip. I'm definitely not. That one still- Over a minute, you went to a public school sporting event like I do, and you took your children there to compete in that with their private school that competes with public schools,

and you walked up and had all the third and fourth and fifth traders run over like you were a rock star. You'd be impressed, wouldn't you? Those kids don't know who you are, Oberman. They know who I am, Oberman, and that shows how you've been rejected completely and how you're hated and only old East Coast and West Coast trendies, scared of their own shadows, scared of freedom, scared of America, who hate Christians and love Islam. They're the only ones that like you, and your little pseudo-intellectual outfit you wear, Mr. Oberman. Okay, Mr. Oberman? How fucking awesome is that? Alex is bragging about being huge with the 10-year-old market. The 9 to 11-year-old market

of third to fifth grade. They love me at my kid's school. I'm done. I'm done. I quit the show. I quit the show. That's all I've ever wanted. I wish that was the end. Oberman! Oberman! Let me ask you a question. Have you ever been to my son's soccer game? No! So shut the fuck up. You're not a patriot because my son scored two goals. Now, I want to be clear about something. What is there to be clear about? That's the craziest shit I've ever heard. When I was in high school, I took broadcast production classes, and there was a guy who was on local access TV who taught the classes. His name was Ron Widbin. He was cool as shit. He was a really nice guy. There's only two ways to go if you're Ron Widbin. Ron Widbin. Ron Widbin. Okay. Yeah. That's the super coolest dude.

The coolest. Or that is the single fucking worst dude you've ever met in your life. His name is Rod. Ron Widbin. I'm never going to remember that name. He had a show on public access called Widbin's Way, and then he got involved with the school, and he started teaching broadcast production classes, and there was a station called on TV, Channel 16. It was like school access, and he taught kids how to use cameras and create news stories. That was the class, and then your stories would be on the public access. I did that for three years in high school, and he was like a mentor to me. He was a really awesome dude, but I can tell you that when he went to games that his kids played in, like when he went, people would storm the shit out of him because he was kind of a local

celebrity. He was a local celeb. In the same way that Alex, there's not a lot of media in Austin. If you go to a game, that's a big deal for kids who just know the idea this guy is famous. Right. When you're 10, you don't know about the globalists. You also don't know this guy's a huge liar. Look, there are two bellwethers I know regarding popularity. Right. One, knowledge of globalists. How many shirts are being sold? Sure. Two, how do 10 year olds feel about you? Well, like, it's so pathetic too, because even if you take the artifice away from it, even if you take the part that there lies, hold on. His argument is that 10 year olds love him. Anyways, keep going. But even if you take it on its purest merits and that he is telling the truth, he is making an argument that

I'm more popular than you, which is at its base petty, and it's kind of is against what he tries to argue. Well, he always argues that it's not about him. It's not about him, but it's about him being popular with 10 year olds. Well, it is about it. Can we? All right. I don't believe that it's impressive to, like, even if those kids agreed with you on your bullshit positions, Alex, I don't believe that it's impressive that people who aren't done forming their brains agree with you. Well, now this, they don't have political positions at 10. This begs the question. And I ask this to you, policy wonks, how many of you are 10 and how do 10 year olds feel about us? Jesus, I don't want to know. For a while there was a, the girl called in my old podcast, freezing point, and she was like

17. And I was like, I can't talk to you. I know you're just calling into my podcast, but this is still somehow illegal. If you're 10, stop listening to this podcast. I don't want you to mob me when I go to my son's games. I don't want you to have a son. I don't want me to have a son either. So Alex, congratulations on the fourth grade market. I'm pretty thrilled with you. And now if you thought that his rant was over, it's not, I had to segment it off. This next part is weird. Like that was weird. That was super weird. This is even weirder. How is that? Okay, let's go back to the crimes you're calling for on air and how you project what you're claiming on us. Back to him. We, the citizens of the United States of America,

are victims of a coup. For months, we have heard that your organizations have damning evidence against Donald John Trump. Whatever evidence you may have, you cannot conceal it any longer. Oh no. Whatever we in this country are to you now. For months, we've heard from liars like you, there's all this damning evidence. Just let him say something. When Trump lives one of the cleanest lives there is, and it's all about winning and all about never letting himself get any trouble and being upright. All he does is eat sweets. Two scoops of ice cream and a piece of cake every night. That's what he does. No alcohol, no drugs, no cigarettes, no nothing. Everybody knows it. That's why he's so successful and so healthy at 70 years of age. You liar. But you go,

we hear you've got all this stuff. Give it to us. Oh, like BuzzFeed was made up PP gate. What have I said? BuzzFeed said, you got found Keith Oberman with about four or five little two-year-olds having sex with him. It's not true. You never did that. You're not a pedophile, Mr. Oberman. But what have we acted like the press does for Trump? What have that skipped this break? What if it was like that, Mr. Oberman? How about we said, Mr. Oberman, that you're a bank fraud expert. You're stolen money from children's charities. None of that's true. But you know who it is true about? The Clintons stole 97% of the money from Haiti. They organized the charities and stole it. But you will never report on that because you're a

pseudo-intellectual praying on America and your whole cult and culture is hating those of us that live in flyover territory. Isn't that right, Mr. Oberman? Let's go back to your lies. Let me ask you a question. I'm listening. What? So two scoops of ice cream? That came out in the news apparently. No, no, no. So the news said that Donald got two scoops and everybody else got one scoop, which again, I don't want to live in this world. And who cares? I want to die. I want to die because that's on the news. Right, right. But second, that's a pro? I guess. He eats. No, that's his vice. That's his vice. Also assaulting women. Also every night? Also assaulting women.

There's only one vice that I accept. Sweets. Sweets. He's got a sweet tooth. He's got a sweet tooth. He lives the cleanest life. That's why he's a mentally degraded 70 year old who's clearly on amphetamines and has weirdo doctors vouch for him. Clearly. Look, that part is- That's the craziest fucking thing. That's fucking hilarious. That's fucking lunacy. But then at the same time, okay, so I want to come totally clean. I've been doing- You've eaten ice cream before? You monster! One time, I had two ice cream bars. You bastard! One night, two ice cream bars. One night? Yeah. So I've been doing a lot of listening- Lizard peanut butter? I have, yeah. Cups. Fuck. I've been listening- This invalidated our entire argument. I've been doing a lot of back research on Alex

Jones's shows and I've started to realize that he is an adaptable creature and he learns from his past mistakes and his behavior gets changed. So in this instance, well in this instance, like you heard him do that speculation about, you know, Oberman, what if I said you're a pedophile? You're not. You're not. Right. In the past- No, yeah. He wouldn't have said that. Yeah, yeah. Because he's being sued by Chabani, he's very clear to be like, no, I'm not saying that. Right. Because he has to get that in. Right. This is exactly the same thing that happened on December 21st, 2012. He learned the lesson of Y2K. We went over the Y2K episode where he was causing panic. Yeah. And being like, everything, they're out of, they're out of gas all over Austin. There's

concentration camps being set up. Yep. In the, in the airport. There's no water. Yeah, there was all kinds of shit that he was doing when the next sort of big media hoax end of the world thing happened. Oh, that's, that's right. I completely, like you said December 21st, 2012. And I was like, that just seems like a regular date. And now I remember that's when people thought the world was going to end. That was supposed to be the end of the Mayan calendar. Yeah. And so on that episode, first of all, on the 21st, he had David Ike as a guest, which is great trolling. That's hilarious. But on the 20th, he is going on like, well, we're on the eve of the end of the world. I gotta be honest. I'm being sarcastic everyone. I'm being sarcastic. That's nice. He had to like really

emphatically be like, listen, I got fucking crucified because of how fucked up I was on Y2K. I'm not doing that again. Right. He's, he isn't an adaptable creature. It's interesting to me. It's like, you see him being checked kind of by the world. Now he eventually will end up forgetting those checks. Right. Like he's going to slander someone again in the future. But are Alex? Yeah. But for now, it's, it's recent enough. And it is the next time he's like, oh, fuck, I'm close to slander. I've got to really point out that I'm not saying this also. And it all, it is, it's also like my go to is pedophilia. Right. That's my go to, right. Because that's the worst crime you can commit or vampire if I want to be vague. Yeah, exactly. But I know I can't do that as aggressively now.

So I'm going to say it and then walk it back just a tiny bit to fraud. Exactly. And then also that Hillary stuff isn't true. Look into it. 97%. I mean, there's a lot of, I mean, most charities don't give nearly as much. No, you should, you should absolutely research a charity before you give to it because a lot of them are while they're nonprofits, they are also, you know, there's still a lot of them businesses in a lot of ways. That's why I support giving to independent charities. Absolutely. Like the alley four new center that we've given to in the past. Look, the Clinton foundation isn't perfect, but they were not running a scam to Rob Haiti of all their money. No, that part is fucking cockamamie bullshit. They just played by the same rules

that lots of charities do. Yeah. And if you want to go by scams to Rob Haiti of their money, God, there are so goddamn many white class there. But like, but also at the same time, like you have to understand, if you're running a global charity, there's massive overhead to it in terms of administration, employees, things like that. So a lot of that money is just by default going to be, which is why we're not supporting it all. We're just why we're talking about when you want to give to something direct charities, usually the best way to go because there's less overhead. They're more on the ground. The resources go more directly to the cause that you're interested in supporting. Right. And what's the most effective form of charity?

Volunteering federal funding. Oh, well, that too. That is well, especially unfortunately, that's gone. Yeah, exactly. No, there's so many, there are so many different things that you get rid of in terms of oversight and the like, if it is a direct one to one federal funding charity, this episode is going to be four fucking hours long. How many hours are we at already? We're at three. Oh, I have more clips. Jesus, let's do it. Okay. So this next clip, listen up policy wonks. You're the ones who asked for this. You have said, Hey, there's no such thing as too long. We'll find out. So this next clip is a string of bullshit. And then a character assassination that does not land with me.

Serious ability and our freedom and a government controlling this country that is at least sane is your surest guarantee of a prosperous future. Indeed, perhaps. Yeah, let's teach kids all over the United States that they need to be trannies. And let's teach them that mother and father is hurtful. She can't use that. Let's ban whiteboards in school. Let's have professors say there's no free speech at colleges. And let's have sorrows, fun, black lives matter to go out and kill cops. And let's have all the straw man everywhere. All the straw man here. Let's build a straw man fire. I hate straw man. Criticize the Democrats canceling their TV shows. All your insanity. And then you point your finger at us with pure projection and then say that we are the insane

ones. Let's go back to Keith Oberman, who when he was in MSNBC, they called him bathtub boy, because he demanded a bathtub in his dressing room and he would lock the door and sit in the bathtub for hours. That that is a fact. Alex Jones, bathtub boy, little spoiled, sportscaster that knows everything is now going to set up like a general and call for foreign forces to overthrow our president while he claims that we're the coup d'etat when he's the coup d'etat. Here it is. So now I want to be clear. I want to be clear. All those things that he brought up are things that we have discussed and debunked in the past. Yep. The whiteboards on campus, the whole shebang, black lives matter, killing cops, all that stuff is nonsense.

Whole shebang, whole cloth, but bathtub boy. I've never heard bathtub before. Neither have I, but I'll tell you this. Did you look into it? No, but if I had a TV show, you got a damn right. I have a bathtub in my green room. Are you kidding me? I love a bath. I don't think that that like that to me does not look like that's not like some sort of sign of a blue blood, whatever. That's kind of a brooding person's like a bath is, is a contemplative place where you kind of, you're retreating. You have a glass of white wine in a book and you just wonder about yourself. It's like a womb kind of, you know, you're kind of like, it's almost hiding out. Like the attack does not land. It's sort of like, ah, give me caviar in the tub. That's not what I see. I see

Keith Oberman just being like super stressed out. They're like, I love baths. I've got to be on set all the time. I have to make this show. I can read in the tub. That's a thing that relaxes me. What the fuck? What's wrong with that? Yeah. And if people started calling me bathtub boy, I five them. I get that an insult from a lot of my friends that are like, hey, you know, you never get clean in the tub. I'm like, it's not the primary function. I take showers also, but I like to sit in the tub. I like, for most of my life, I was a bubble bath guy. But then as I got older, I transitioned to bath salts. Bath salts are amazing. This got very personal for you. It did. The bathtub boy thing. Don't attack me Alex. Tubs are great. I'm fine

with you. And I fucking guarantee that Alex has a huge bathtub in his palatial mansion. Oh yeah. His million dollar. Do you know, do you know what? To me, opulence is not the bathtub. To me, opulence is the double shower head. Oh yeah. Have you ever taken a shower with two shower heads? I'm aware of its existence, but no. Oh, I had a one for the back, one from the front. Oh, oh, I had a, so when I was in college or something, one of my friends had a rich friend and we stayed over at their like penthouse apartment one time and they had three shower heads. And I swear to God, it was the most opulent, beautiful experience of my life. And I enjoyed it for all of five minutes before I was like, you know, a lot of places don't have fresh water and done. I'm like, fuck,

God damn it. I can't enjoy anything. Now you can enjoy the triple header. No, it was, it was amazing. And I would encourage everyone to burn those down and give your fresh water to people who fucking need it. But also, if you ever experience it, pretty great. Oh, it's amazing. Yeah. I feel the same way about a tub. I lucked my way into my younger years that had jets in it. Oh, right? Crazy. Are you kidding me? Yeah. So anyway, now we're going to discuss. It's good to be white and rich and discuss some people who are not and also Alex lying about them. Great. Here it is. You're sure is guaranteed of any future at all. Now we need your hell hit pause again. He talks to us like we're two years old and real slow. He

looks down cause he's reading a telepump. Let me, I call him out looking at a telepump. Four. Now we need, I wrote this myself. Of course he did. Let me act like I wrote it. Let me go back to my heartfeltness cause I'm reading a teleprompter. Can we show the camera here? It was a teleprompter here. Yeah, see the teleprompter. Now, see Mr. Fakernal actual. Let's back him up 10 seconds because this is a key part right here. He says the world's in danger because of us. It was the Clintons gave nuclear reactors in North Korea. It was the liberal elites that gave the communist Chinese nuclear weapons back in the sixties. That doesn't make any sense either. And it's been our elites that have been destabilizing the world forever. And now Trump wants to end all

that with condescents and pragmatism and you don't like it. So you claim the world's in danger because of him. Let's continue. So the third part that we're destabilizing the world totally true. Now I'm going to walk you through. I'm on board with that part. I'm going to walk you through the facts about nuclear history. Here's the thing that gets to me is continuing to call him a fake intellectual, which is like that. It's similar to the racist dog whistle, but it's that like he's not saying anything particularly intellectual and he's speaking very clearly and directly. I want you to hold off on this criticism because I think he'll get to why he's saying this. It's all appearance based. Okay. He's going to insult his appearance real

hard in a little bit. All right. But my, but my point being like that's the quickest way to get that alt right on your side is like, oh, this guy is intellectual. Yeah. This guy thinks he's an expert. Experts don't mean anything. I don't need an expert. I'm a boy. What did you go to college? Gay. You have a degree. I'm a proud boy. What? So I got a degree in being proud of being a boy. Talking about Chinese nuclear history. Yes. So in the 1950s, we had the Korean war that was going on. The Korean conflict is some have called it. We killed 20% of North Korea's population. And here's a really fucked up thing I learned during my research into this. In 1950, General MacArthur wanted to shoot 34 nuclear bombs at China to quote, create a belt of radioactive cobalt

across the neck of Manchuria so there could be no land invasion of Korea from the North for at least 60 years. That's crazy. I'm starting to think America's not always a good guy. I didn't know that. That's nuts. I'm guessing that's not a widely publicized fact. No, I bet on American history classes in fucking high school. They don't go, Oh, by the way, our generals have occasionally wanted to murder millions of people and make sure that there's a radioactive belt around Manchuria. Even in like, I, I was a history minor in college and my emphasis was American history. Yeah. That was not even something I was. No, I'm obsessed with American history. Like I, I recommend reading Barbara Tuckman all day every day. At no point in time did I ever hear about this shit. Yeah.

So in 1955, the Soviet Union announced that it would assist China in research into peaceful uses of atomic energy. In 1956, the Tsenghua University in Taiwan built its first research nuclear reactor. In 1969, the Institute of Nuclear Energy Research buys a reactor from Canada. Those are how China got their nuclear reactors. Could you tell me what the name it was it? X I A N G space H U A? No. T S E N G H U A. Oh, shang hu. All right. Come on, man. I'm sorry. I just like Chinese. All right, fine. I admit I did not pronounce it correctly, but that university in Taiwan, it was on the foreground and forefront of Chinese nuclear research and still is to this day. They within the next year, it's theorized will create a meltdown proof nuclear reactor.

That's fucking amazing. Yeah, they're, they're doing some amazing research there and have been for the last 60 years, which is super important because that is a, a, that's a really valuable like just like other, uh, you know, other alternative fuels like solar power and like, if you actually get, uh, nuclear reactors, and you take away the risk. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Because, because when you talk about, I mean, like when you talk about pure pound for pound energy, there isn't really much that can compare with fusion and fusion of fusion. Yeah. And fission is that's a borderline infinite resource. That's, that's the fucking sun. Like, yeah. That's when we get the like next phase of our cultural evolution. That's when we go from

being a type one civilization to a type two. That's when it's entirely possible. Yeah. So we had nothing really fundamental to do with Chinese nuclear, uh, expansion. Right. The beginnings of it were Soviet helped. Of course. Uh, and then beyond that, it was just really, really good research and work being done by the Chinese themselves. And then a little bit later in, like I said, in 1969, the Canadians sold them a bunch of uranium and a reactor. Right. And so, which even back then they didn't really understand, like in, in 1969, you could buy radioactive toothpaste in the United States. Like they didn't understand quite what, uh, that's how the future will look at our fluoride toothpaste. Exactly. Like they didn't quite understand what, uh, radiation

did to people. There were subtleties that were missed. Yeah. And then as far as, as far as, uh, nuclear technology period, like the moment it was discovered, it was, it's inevitable that that possibility would be reached by other countries. Well, it's essentially the myth of Pandora's box. Yeah, exactly. Genies out the bottle and we're all going to fuck with it. Oppenheimer was absolutely right when he said, uh, when he quoted, uh, what, Shiva? Yeah. I am death destroyer of worlds. Yeah. I become death. Yeah. Uh, so if we, if we look at North Korea's history, shockingly similar in 1956, the Soviet Union begins training North Korean scientists and engineers enabling the DPRK to acquire basic knowledge to initiate a nuclear program. 1959, North Korea and the USSR

signed a nuclear cooperation agreement over the next 30 years. Moscow provides the North with basic nuclear training and technology. They have their roots with the Soviets as well. It wasn't the Clintons who weren't doing shit in 1959, which, and of course this makes perfect sense, considering the fact that immediately after world war two, you have guys like, uh, you know, MacArthur and, uh, fucking, uh, god damn, so many of them who are just saying, all right, now we defeated the Nazis. Let's go after Russia. Like that was their immediate thought. Churchill, Churchill was like, Hey, now we go into Russia because it's super smart to fight a land war in Russia. It's the best. So also always works out a little more just like a land war in Afghanistan.

It's never gone wrong. A little more about North Korea. Yes. Before the Clintons were ever in power in any meaningful way. Uh, in the mid 1980s, North Korea reached a quote dangerous level of nuclear capacity with advancements due to increased Soviet support for their nuclear program. Right. In 1990, or I'm sorry, 1984, North Korea completed construction of a five megawatt. I don't think that's correct. M, M, W, W, E, W, E gas cooled graphite moderated nuclear reactor for plutonium production. If operating at full power for a majority of the year, the reactor could produce 7.5 kilograms of weapons grade plutonium annually. There is still great disagreement as to just how much plutonium was produced. That was in 1984. Those 33 years ago. So Alex's whole narrative

about the Clintons gave them their reactors. Right. Everything was already there way in advance. China and North Korea both had Soviet help. Obviously it was an offshoot of the Korean war. It's with it. What the fuck? This is such stupid shit. This narrative doesn't hold any water and what? What is the end of it? What's the end goal? Here is the thing about that, though. That's fertile ground because I didn't know anything about that. Like I didn't know where the Chinese or North Korean nuclear programs came from. Yeah, you knew damn well it wasn't the Clintons and liberals in the 60s. No, of course not. But if if I don't have any reference point for that, then I am still susceptible to whatever it is. Like in this case, I believe you because you are

always super diligent in your research. I'm referencing papers from nuclear organizations. Right. But that's my point. I don't have any personal research into this whatsoever. So if I didn't have you who's doing the very necessary research, it would be fertile ground for me if I already had a fear of China, if I already have a fear of North Korea, also North Carolina. Yeah, these days. If I already have a fear of these places, then that seems much more plausible because I have zero frame of reference. But you're not dumb. You would look into it. And if you did, you would find the same thing. But my point being because I have no frame of reference for this, I'm much more on the empathic side towards these people. Because if you're already predisposed to

believing anything about North Korea or anything about China, like this is sympathy for the devil, but it's not the devil. It's just sympathy for sympathy for ignorance. Yeah. Like in in this regard, sympathy for the easily fooled. Right. Well, and not just that. I can't know everything. And so if I get an assertive authoritarian voice telling me this, it's much more likely for me to believe it if I have zero frame of reference for this. And especially if you've bought hook, hook, line and sinker into a bunch of other bullshit. Exactly. So yeah, like unfortunately, a lot of my knowledge of the Korean war comes from fucking mash. Like I don't know enough about it.

It was, it was an accurate picture from what I can tell. Are you talking about the movie or the show? I'm talking about the show. Okay, never mind. So this next clip, he gives some more bullshit. And I've got more facts on the other end. Let's continue. the last decade by Muslims against Christians. And so now the president and the vice president are talking about how Christians are being persecuted all over the world while Muslims promote killing all the Jews in Copenhagen, Denmark and don't get in trouble. That's today. And Twitter says telling the truth about refugee crisis is hateful conduct. Don't point out that 80 plus percent are military aged men, or you'll be arrested in Europe because that's hate speech.

That's not scary. Oh, I'm sorry. Let's go back to Keith Overman. Here he goes. So that's complete bullshit. The 80% military aged men of refugees number. No, that doesn't make any goddamn sense. That's not even physically possible. No, based on the statistics that have been able to be gathered 50.7% of refugees are women. So your number is already fucked. How many are children? Well, here's the thing. And I'm going to quote. It is true that the refugee demographics do skew on the side of youth. Syria, in particular, is a country with a large population of young people, especially in comparison to Europe. The majority of Syrians are between 25 and 54 years old, and only 4.02% of Syria's population is older than 65,

compared to the European Union, 18.5. If refugee and migrant populations follow their originating countries demographics, then we should expect to see that at least half of Syrian and other refugees will be male and most of them will be young. To put the issue of age into perspective, as of 2015, Syria's median age was 23.8. Iraq's was 19.7 and Afghanistan's was 18.4. By comparison, the median age in the United States was 37.7. In the United Kingdom, it was 40.4 and Germany was 46.5. Children from Syria and elsewhere make up at least a third of the refugee population. Children who, whether accompanied or alone, are looking for a chance to grow up in a country that is not shredded by violence. Now, if you want to really break it down, the reason

that the population is so young is so obvious. The life expectancy is terrible. Health care is provided as best it can be in third-world countries. And also, men and older people are killed. Killed. Constantly. The reason that the population is so young is because everyone dies really young. To not recognize that as a piece of the equation is so simplistic. It's racist. It's offensive. They're not racist. It's bigoted. It's not because it's not necessarily race specific. It's so fucking stupid. It's ignorant. That's like saying the, you know, the population in medieval Europe was heavily skewed towards young people. And you're like, well, because most of them died at 26. Well, now the reality there, though, is a lot of those people were marauding.

But also, Alex is operating basically off memes. Because there have been memes that have come out that show, I'm going to show them both to you. There is a picture of Muslim refugee men showing up. And you can find this picture. It's very widely disseminated. And it's got the Getty images tagged to it. It's like a ton of dudes getting off a bus. And it's really scary. And people use that as an example of like, look, it's all young men coming. But what they didn't show is that another boss showed up the next day with all of the women and children. They traveled in separate buses because of cultural reasons. For very good reasons. Yeah, it's just what the fuck? What is wrong? Because it's the other. It's the other. So long as it's the other, it's ranked bigotry. You will

believe anything so long as it's your enemy. The 80% military men statistic is fucking horse shit. The spirit behind it that it's all young men coming because it's an invading force is completely wrong because women and children are coming. They are coming along just on separate buses, which I mean, we can have a conversation about how everyone should have the same bus. We can have that conversation. That's a different conversation. It's completely unnecessary. Now, there's also a bunch of reports of people like showing up alone, dudes showing up alone, who had taken boats across the Aegean sea to find refugee status. Not a ton of reports of the dudes who die alone after taking those butts. Totally. And everyone who gets on a boat knows that that's

a possibility. A good possibility. So when they get on those boats, oftentimes what they do is they go it alone. And when they get to where they're going, claim their refugee status, establish themselves and send for their families. Oh, I know, I know another place where that happens. What's it called? America. I remember when the Irish did that. Do you remember that? I have a vague memory. Do you remember when the Italians did that? Do you remember that? Do you remember when the Jews did that? Do you remember that? I do. Oh man, what do all of those people have in common? They were fleeing something. They were fleeing something. I remember also how back then when the Jews were fleeing some guy, some dude, was there a history?

Drawing a blank. I remember a guy. So they were fleeing from this horrific catastrophe that was being visited upon them due to no fault of their own. And then there were people in America who are like, we can't let these people in. We can't do it. It's bad. They're bringing the same brand of fascism from their world to ours. I remember how, like, oh, that's right. Oh, it's interesting that that's recent enough in our memory that we have reports of people who we denied asylum to literally being murdered because they couldn't get over here. Oh yeah. I mean, I bet we don't have any newspapers or any written word from that time, right? No. Like that was so far, that was so long ago. It was like, I mean, we didn't even have newspapers back then. Oh wait, America is a racist

fucking country that's always been monstrous. It drives me up a fucking wall that Alex Jones is making these arguments based on lies, based on facts that he's twisting. And this same episode where he's mad that Muslim women are at Starbucks. How does he fucking not realize what lives within him? How does he not take a look in the mirror and realize, maybe it's me, maybe I have the problem. It's not to say that Muslims as a wide group of people don't include some people who are doing fucked up shit. Oh, do you mean in in a group of two billion people you might find some people who are doing fucked up shit? You can always find examples. You can always find examples. And right, because Alex Jones lives in such a world of black and

white, I've got to make it clear that I don't think that Muslims have never done anything bad in the world. That's not the argument I'm making. Right. I'm making the argument that you don't see nuance. You see them all as one. Right. You see them all as bad. And you refuse to wrestle with it. That is the definition of bigotry. Absolutely. That is the definition. Hey, we need a bathroom bill because all trans people are bad. Yeah, they're all molesters. We need fucking, we need, we can't let gay people get married because all gay people are trying to destroy marriage as an institution. The sanctity. Yeah. Fuck you. All right. Well, that was my big soapbox moment. I loved it. Yours is probably coming in this next clip.

That's a new, that's a segment on the show, right? So box mom Jordan gets on the soapbox and yells about something. I think it's going to come because this next look, I think is about climate change. I'm not sure. But I think, all right. I'm not sure. All right. He's over, man. There goes apps. You're sure is guaranteed of any future at all. So you have no, pause again. I'm sorry. So there's no future at all. Unless you believe Al Gore and the science guy, Bill and I saves the earth. Al Gore saves the earth. Polar bears can't swim. The ice caps have all melted. The sea levels up a hundred feet. We're all dead. Sea levels down. It's all lies, lies, lies. Is another fake shitting up there in a little

costume, trying to look intellectual, reading off the teleprompter. Let's go back five, five teleprompters. So how do you feel about this? Look, I'm running out. I'm running out of gas. I'm running out of gas on the climate denier thing. Look, it's, so my operating theory on climate change is very simple. For 40 years, climate scientists have deliberately downplayed the danger of it. And they've done this because they don't want to look like, you know, alarmists. Yeah, exactly. Hey, guys, we need to do something about this. It's really important that we do something about this. It's not like I'm saying the sky is falling. They're like the polite people who want you to leave their house at like two in

the morning. They don't want to be like, get the fuck out of my house. They're like, hey, I think I might go to bed. Right. All of this stuff or, you know, this is an old story about, I think it was probably Malcolm Gladwell, maybe, where they were talking about the power dynamic in airplanes. So if you listen to the black boxes of a bunch of Korean airplanes, which at the time were the most dangerous airline in the world, because they had the highest number of plane crashes, and you're like, why does this one place have this such high number of plane crashes? And they go through all these black boxes and they see that pilots get tired and their co-pilots because of the culture of deference would be very genteel. And they're like, Hey, I think, I think there might

be something coming up ahead. And the pilot would be like, I don't think so. And then boom, they explode. So death comes from not listening to other voices. Exactly. And even then, when those voices are deliberately trying to be as deferential as possible, nobody's going to get the true scope of the emergency that's going on. Yeah, all of the stuff. I, and this is something that I think is true and I'm probably right about it. All of the stuff they predicted for 60 years in the future will be 10 years in the future. I've heard you make this claim before and I'm worried you're right. I am absolutely right. Why do you say about Alex Jones's claim that whenever you see time elapsed things about polar ice caps melting, that's just because it's summer. It's summer.

They don't show it growing back up in the winter. Nope. I buy it. So done. Seasons. Seasons. That's it. Climate is just summer, spring, winter, fall. Fireballs. I remember that. Do you remember the fifth season? Sure. Fireballs. Fireballs. Absolutely. Fucking. So let's get back to greener pastures. What are you going to do? Who cares? It's too late. We're fucked. There's so many millions of people who are going to die and the thing that kills me is that there is no other way to describe it than if you are a climate change denier, you personally are contributing to the death of millions of people, millions of people. Do you think like, oh look, a refugee crisis is bad now, right? Imagine, just fucking imagine whenever sea

lines, whenever sea borders, sea lions attack, which is my new favorite show on Fox. It's on prime time when sea lions attack. No, no. Border. Just Florida. Just Florida. Sure. A lot of territory in Florida is going to disappear. They don't even fucking talk about like Georgia and Louisiana. Absolutely. I'm unhappy that people from Florida are going to become refugees and they're going to come to Chicago. Yeah. And that's only talking about displacement. It has nothing to do with even like encroaching new deserts and places that will become unbelievable. Absolutely. Like if the refugee crisis now is about people moving from one place to another and you think there's terrorism now, imagine, imagine when fresh water becomes the next fight. How many

millions of people are going to be fighting over fresh, just drinking water. This is pure survival. Yeah. It's going to get ugly. It's going to be brutal. And I, and Alex Jones thinks that's all bullshit. Genuine. Like it's gone from, it's gone from me being like, you think that's all about a carbon tax. I know. I know they all do. Genuinely. I'm at the point now where it's like, dude, I just, we're all going to die. It's over. Or at least billions of people are going to die. Yeah. I just like, I used to be like, Hey guys, if you're denying climate change, you're killing your grandchildren. Now I'm at the point where I'm like, Oh God, I hope it happens now so I can look at my dad's fucking eyes and be like, I told you so as we both explode in a

fucking firewall. I could have had kids, but now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, fuck you. So you're killing your grandchildren. You're killing your children. Let's, let's get back to the modern day. Not speculating about the future. This is Alex Jones doing a real fun day. I'm glad I didn't get on that soapbox. He expected me to. It's a fun dance about Trump and Russia. Let's go back. Now we need your help. Whatever there is on Trump. Reveal it. Issue it officially if you can leak it. Whatever it is. Cause it's all made up. Whatever it is. Maybe he's Santa Claus. Maybe he's really George Washington. Maybe he's a space alien. Maybe he's one of Keith Overman's hemorrhoids. I mean, just whatever it is you've got. Yeah. We all made stuff up and said

there was something. So it must be true. We all read the secret. We believe we can manifest. Of course you can't. It's all made up, but let's just manifest that Trump's gone. How about we manifest that Keith Overman doesn't just read off teleprompters. Back to him. I did put Trump's impeachment on my vision board. Oh, yeah. Oh, absolutely. Also. Hey, Alex, go fuck yourself for getting shitty at the secret. You believe in 12 dimensional demons. Don't fucking play that game. I love his strategy of I'm going to let him get so far into it and then I'm going to cut it off because there is a complete argument that there is to be made by Keith Overman and it will be made. If you let him listen to the whole clip. Right. Exactly. If you let him finish,

there is, well, like the Fox News clip. I don't know if you saw this, but they went to a small town diner or whatever and they start talking to this old dude, this reliably old white dude. And even the old white dude is like, well, I think the timing of this whole thing is very suspect. They're like, boom, I'm out of here. We're interview over. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like that's, that's what he's doing. If you allow them to actually ruminate on all of this circumstantial evidence, even people who were predisposed to agree with you, it starts to look bad. But that's, that's the comedy of it is that Alex Jones is this guy who claims that Colbert and Fox News keep taking him out of context. Right. And now he's not allowing on his own show any context to

develop for this thing that he's ostensibly doing media criticism over. Like he's doing this, like we're going to break this down. And like I said, it's 35 straight minutes of the show. Yeah. So like he doesn't let overman says 10 words during that entire 30. There are a couple times he lets like 40 seconds tops. Yeah. Go. But most of the time it's two. Yeah. Two seconds play. Like, ah, I got to let me, let me interrupt here. I got to lie about North Korea and China. Yeah. Like it's why? What's the point? What do you mean? What's the point? The point is obvious. No, the point is too obvious. No. Well, I mean, the point is really simple. It's to inoculate people. You and all of this stuff sounds reasonable. If you listen to it without facts, all the way through.

If you listen to it all the way through what overman says, sounds reasonable. But if you take word by word interruptions, you're inoculating your listeners from this. I just had a revelation, I think. So basically, is it about the seven seals? No, Alex Jones, about the seven sea lions. Yes. They're attacking. They're hitting Florida right now. No. So I said that wouldn't happen for 60 years. You said suit. So I think, okay. So Alex is imagining a world where a bunch of people have watched the Oberman clip and they've watched it all the way through. And so he's making sure that his listeners can argue with them with point by point. Ah, here's an objection you can make. Exactly. Hoping that everyone who's seen the Oberman clip will just blindly accept whatever

he's saying. And in that case, his listeners would win that argument because they're just obnoxious and bringing up stuff that the Oberman listeners were like, I don't know what you're talking about. Exactly. Like you didn't, like before we had this conversation, didn't know the specific history of North Korea's nuclear program. Nope. What am I going to, what am I going to argue? Yeah. So you, if you were in a conversation with one of Alex Jones's listeners, you'd be like, I don't know about that. It doesn't sound good, but I don't know about that. Right. And they'd be like, well, you don't know about that. Exactly. And they'd get aggressive with you. Yeah. And an argument doesn't go well if you go, wait, what did you say? I need to stop. I don't know about this. I need to

pull up my phone. I need to Google this shit. I'm not an expert on that. That's, that is, like unfortunately rhetoric, a lot of the time defeats reality. Especially when it's super aggressive rhetoric. Yeah. Speaking of which, this next clip, Alex just fucking completely takes two words that Oberman says out of context and pretends they're biblical. It's wild. It's wild. Two words? Just listen to this closely. Don't talk over this. It's pretty quick. Mic down, mic down. Stop doing. If your directors and your governments want you to wait, look to the last days here and ask yourselves, plumb your consciences. If there is any cause left. He didn't want to say we're in the last day, so he said he's an atheist.

But he didn't say that. He said look to the last days here. He's talking about the last few days. I'm pointing to my nose. You called it. I'm pointing to my nose. Of course, it was obvious. So obvious. But he heard those, he heard those words put next to each other. Hear the words of the Lord. He's like, oh, this has got to be biblical. He's got to be talking about apocalypse shit. No, I'm the apocalypse guy. Yeah. So he just like that's stepping into my territory, Oberman. I'm gonna flex on you. Yeah. That's so fucked up. That's like, it's, it is, but this is what I'm saying about this whole clip is that this is very much Alex being like, you're on my world now. Yeah. You are on my turf. Yeah, I am. This is where I shine. So don't

fuck with me, Oberman. Yeah, you're going into conspiracy territory and you don't even know what. And, and Oberman is, is doing that. Like he might be right. And I definitely don't rule it out right now. But Oberman is definitely stepping into Russia conspiracy theory territory. Right. And that's something I mean, we're already three and a half hours in. So let's not get into it and unpack it, but just on a very superficial thing. We do have to be super careful ourselves. And I think everyone else should as well about getting caught up in momentum right with conspiracy theory right on the left, right, because we've seen what it's done to the right. It is this. But like when we talk about Louise Mench, but okay, look, no, we're not going to do that. We're not

going to relitigate that. Right. I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you. I'm not here to defend her. She's wrong a lot of the time, but she is part of that, that sort of hemisphere of Twitter that has become sort of beholden to rampant speculation. Right. And it's maybe more right than the conservative side. Absolutely. But at the same time, it's dangerous because there's a lot of things that are wrong that get forgotten when a right thing happens. Right. So well, it's it's the it's the fortune teller thing. You remember when the fortune teller got it right, because it's crazy. Don't remember all the times the fortune teller got it wrong. Right. And when we talk about Russian stuff, I think we're not saying we have any real secret knowledge

or anything. We're saying it looks bad based on the things that are concretely reported. Yeah. There is not nothing there. No. But we're not jumping in the the bad of I think I think our main summation so far of the Russian stuff is Putin is the architect of something. Yes. We know these people have contact with a guy who is a front and lied about the contact and lied about that. So we know that there's all kinds of shady shit going on. There's a lot of circumstantial evidence and we don't have a smoking gun. Yeah. But my our but at least my operating theory is there is a smoking gun. Absolutely. And we're just trying to navigate a way through this that doesn't kill millions of people. Right. That's where we come from. Yeah.

So it's it's it's important though. Don't don't become and don't allow a left wing Alex Jones to exist. Yeah. Because if that person does exist you're just going to get it's just going to be an infinite cycle that repeats itself. It's if it's an eye for an eye everybody's blind. Absolutely. Yeah. And Keith Opperman's not there yet but he's putting his toe into the water. Well there are so many people who are angling for and again is is the we can't do it because she's not a demagogue. Right. Right. She has a sizable Twitter. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. I'm saying it opens the only person who is legitimately in that conversation. Right. Because he is on the Internet as a as a video personality. Right. As a newscaster. Well let

me put it in in the way that I've already established. Right. I want Trump executed judicially. I want him to be tried for treason and then because he committed it I want him to be punished for treason in the way that it's such and if the facts bear out that he didn't then I don't want him to be punished for it. Right. That's how you that's how the law works. Right. But I don't like him to be punished for other things. Right. But if if my stated goal is I want him to be punished for treason the way that you should be i.e. hung from the neck till dead. Right. Kids watch. I don't want. Yeah. And I do. I'll support that forever. Fair enough. But I don't want him to be hung extra judicially. Right. So in the same way we I want Trump gone.

I don't want him gone because of a whole series of conspiracy theories that aren't true because that is the same coup narrative that Alex Jones is advocating for. There's a right way. Not right way. What it comes down to is like facts above agenda and narrative. Yeah. Exactly. Beyond that also. I mean what Trump's already done is enough to get him removed from office. Totally. Absolutely. Even just the China trademark thing is enough. Of course. That you can't be president and do that. It's not. You just can't. There's a there's a constitution or at least there was. Yeah. It's right. It's it's insane. So the punishment should absolutely be commensurate with the crime. And I don't want to get into that same kangaroo court situation where now Trump is the enemy.

And so we just we agree. We agree. And I think most people listening agree. I think we got some good policy wonks out there with good heads on their shoulders and we advise rationality. That's basically all that's basically all we do because here's the thing. If you have people like Louise Mench on this side and you have people like Alex Jones on this side and then also on back to the other side you have Keith Olperman. The thing that sort of unites them is this idea of they have a savior complex. Absolutely. There is that I'm going to save everybody. Right. And that is a dangerous thing. Like I've said a bunch of times. I don't want to necessarily save anybody. I would love for people who are beholden to Alex Jones's false narratives to recognize that he's lying to

them. Right. But I don't care if I do it or they just sort of have a breakthrough one day. It's it's show is mostly just about clowning on an idiot. But at the same time we got to address the savior complex thing. And I agree. Who better than Alex Jones to talk about it. Otherwise otherwise it is a pendulum. My transition game blew it again. Edit this out. Alex Jones has some thoughts on the savior complex. We need it now. And to the intelligence community of this country your patriotic duty is clear in many respects in the months since the election you have provided your greatest service in our history democracy that has lost its political way down the street like a drunk and lurches towards the gutter yet you have walked a virtually bipartisan straight line

and you have followed your rules and you have followed the rules of the civilians. Very blowhardy. This makes me agree with Alex Jones that he still exists regardless. The evil doers threat to the freedoms of this nation. Now now I'm interrupting at the same time he is the Trump administration. The Trump is playing by no rules. The Trump and the whole world's in danger and only this guy only this guy can save everybody. This is just over the top craziness and then Trump responds nicely back to all this that they're up to get it and they're the enemy and they freak out and go we just want you dead or overthrown or foreign governments to overthrow you. We're just saying you're the devil. We're just saying you're a dictator. How dare you not come to our press dinner.

How dare you lie about you. What's your problem. We're supposed to be in charge and no one's supposed to resist us. So I mean come on that's cockamamie bullshit. That's cockamamie bullshit. But like sure. Sure. Oberman's being blowhard. Oberman at the same time. Not your blowhard. This isn't an Oberman podcast. This is an Alex Jones podcast and we know him. Him being like oh you think you're the only person who can say like I'm the only person who can save the world from global. Exactly right. That's what's and that's what's energizing him. That is but that's why he has his is his is his rankles up. Is that the expression. Hackles. Hackles. Hackles up. Yeah or something in his rankles. He's wrangled. All right. He's wrangled. But that's why that's why it is this like again

you're on my turf. Yeah. You're on my fucking turf. And I don't agree with the way you're presenting the world. I think I think it really is that I think you're absolutely right. Like what we're seeing what we're seeing is Alex getting to parallel a liberal Alex Jones a little bit like that's not nearly as evolved as absolutely not. But but the point being Alex gets to come at him from this like your left wing propaganda. You know what it is. You know what it is. It's like Alex being us watching his show except so much like that except you except Alex. Except Alex his lies still permeate it. Right. He's still lying about everything but he's watching this this shit. So we kind of get a glimpse of what our podcast would be

if we didn't bother about information or news or sources or anything along those lines. Totally and this next clip is a fucking awesome rant again totally petty and it gets into that idea of what he's attacking really when he talks about like pseudo intellectual shit. Right. It's it's all appearance based and man this is fucked up off the FBI director and let him find out about it by reading a TV news crawl in the back of the room in which he was addressing his Los Angeles office. They have no rules for now the rest of us who only want our democracy back. We can have no rules either. We will take the risk of reestablishing the rules later on what you and the FBI and the CIA in the Justice Department have on Trump. We also need now because by tomorrow it may

disappear and your ability to do anything with it may disappear as well. Some of us here in the outside have tried the best we could to prevent this day. Others less so. When is Alex going to interrupt? It's so hard to listen to this guy. I apologize for even playing it but this is a mindset into these people. They've done everything they claim Trump's doing. They have sat there and assaulted this country tried to demonize it tried to pull it down tried to take our freedoms shipped our jobs overseas written books about how they've done it they have celebrated and celebrated and celebrated that they the globalist they the leftist they the communist they the Soros's they the Nazi collaborators have control of our churches our kids minds the FDA they can

brainwash us they can fluoridate our water they can push deadly all right well that's crazy they can absolutely attack all our basic institutions steal our money perch on top of us and then put always the same guys like Stephen Colbert and Oberman and all of them the in the pseudo-intellectual little suits little nerd man non-threatening god damn it encounter brain bug know-it-all good boy teachers pet psychopath outfits you know Ted Bundy the famous psychopath dressed in gray suits with black ties white shirts argumentated so just like that even though he didn't need him because he'd drive around non-threatening picking up young college girls and high school girls to torture him to death like we're gonna go to Pat's outfit they wear to

look non-threatening i'm not saying he's gonna kidnap your kids and kill him he wants to kidnap your country and strangle it to death while he tells you you deserve it that's keep over but he thinks he's better than you he thinks he's beating you and he realizes he's losing and has now been kicked to the curb and he's panicking that's so much projection at the end that is the most projection of it he realizes he's losing and he's panicking yeah god damn it alex alex mirror mirror alex meanwhile it's alex sit down with that bottle of johnny walker look in the mirror and just just listen to yourself there's a lot of people who used to wear gray suits and black ties that's not nope ted bunny yeah ted bunny mm-hmm what were you saying i don't know ted bunny

it's it's we're we're at we're at seven and a half hours it's so much nothing we've edited out three hours of this ladies and gentlemen so far it's so much nothing though like it's we're coming to the end of this but it's like it's tough to when we've had a lot of stuff that is factual based that you can respond to right you can be like oh no uh here are trump's donors who are way worse than goldman sex probably right here is the truth about nuclear programs it's really tough for you to be like this guy dresses to try and trick you like i don't know i don't i don't care i don't what i am not easily duped by appearances don't you don't you have like a fortune magazine article on how many people who dress like that are serial killers you know i don't but i what about the

percentage of the global population that dresses like that that is also a serial killer i don't know how i would find that stat but also well then you're no good to me here's a stat that i can tell you alex jones a hundred percent again was doing that like he's dressed like that i'm not saying he's trying to get your kids yeah no i i picked up on that too yeah he's just doing that again do like i don't want to get sued again right exactly i'm gonna walk this back i'm gonna give you the same insult that i would have six months ago but i'm gonna walk it back now he wants to choke your country out yeah that's good enough safe harbor you're fine yep that's metaphorical enough so now this next clip is just alex jones fucking losing his temper really hard and now flashing back

to the beginning of the episode him talking about how like he's in control listen to this clip and if he's in control of himself and he's saying this all right all right buddy you know they were pointing out in there that the last time i played an overrun clip i started having a meltdown as well and i was actually throwing stuff during the breaks all right buddy i mean that clip wasn't like him screaming but that's a horrible thing to learn he was throwing things during the break because he had listened to an oberman clip yeah alex jones is my greatest enemy i disagree and can disprove most of his worldview if not all he makes me really mad when i listen to him yes but all i do to deal with that anger is laugh show i laugh and then i think about how fun it's

gonna be when i prove him wrong that is how i deal with it i don't necessarily when i'm at work and i'm listening to him i don't like ah throw my computer across the room or something like that now in his defense oh this is gonna be good uh that's pretty much what i'm here for right like i'm throwing my computer i'm the physical manifestation of your anger towards alex jones i'm the guy who does you're laughing too i am laughing this screaming is mostly you just externalizing surprise it's not really rage although there is rage embedded within it yeah no i don't i don't go home anything but uh uh visibly shook by the reality that we live in yeah but i don't want to break things no alex jones does yeah he can't control his temper he absolutely a little baby

yeah god he's a baby man if he could mr baby if he weren't the butt boy of trump man i bet he'd still have his kids maybe no but you know what i'm gonna be perfectly honest with you i don't it's hard to say i think if he this is tough my bigger theory is his life is being ruined by his own supplements oh fuck i are you saying that we're talking super male vitality is some testosterone kind of shit yes and so he is ramped himself up with way too much testosterone like somebody who takes steroids all the time and he's experiencing all of this anger and rage because of this added inability to control his behaviors yes absolutely wow our next episode is gonna get into that a little bit in that case do not do that uh super high or supersize me thing

where you take a lot of uh how fun would it be to have aggressive dan for a month i do not want to deal with aggressive dan listen i have never had to restrain you before and i worry that you're going to be throwing stuff every time we listen to all of them in clip no sincerely that is a that is a theory that i'm going to be working out over the course of a number of these time travel episodes okay is that i think that you can track a very different the philosophy in terms of the global ists and shit like that is absolutely consistent yeah but the behavior the frequency of outbursts the inability to control himself uh is very much like he was as a child like we talk about and we've documented a number of times in our biography of him right all of these incredibly violent

outbursts these fights that he'd get into putting people in commas and you don't see a ton of that necessarily in his adult life uh until he's getting way closer to that now in terms of like you don't see it on the show but he just admitted the last time he talked about oberman he was throwing shit right during the breaks now i would also i would also those sort of outbreaks are probably happening more than just when he listens to yeah fucking col colbert or oberman colberman if you will well i mean the both of them make him colbert man and if he's exhibiting those sorts of behaviors and i'm being a bit speculative here i don't think he is right to be around his kids like if he has that kind of like hair trigger yeah that just something he disagrees with will send him into

a rage where he breaks things right that's not someone who can be trusted around growing humans i think this is where we are out of our scope of practice that's why i said i was being speculative yeah i think uh i think this is the one where but again his kids his kids are not living with him full time and i think if you listen to this podcast you know that's probably for the best and again i i want to i want to stress don't buy his products i legitimately think that they are they are deteriorating his mind i think that there are negative effects you can track in him if you tomorrow we're going to be doing an episode or it might come out later in the week we're going to be doing an episode later this week about an episode from 2014 and we'll see like you'll see

a market difference in him okay so anyway all right we don't finish this shit out we got one more clip uh this is the end of his analysis of oberman uh and it's dumb so let's finish up with Keith oberman here he is to prevent this day others less so right now it doesn't matter who did much when you and the FBI CIA the other intelligence agencies the justice department you must be the patriots now you in the five eyes stepping on alec jones's territory now i'm lecturing like everybody's three years old you've got to be the patriots now it's horrible that trump wants to secure our border and do better trade deals all the time the stock market's up three trillion a 300 billion new jobs came in that the steel mills are having the best production

they've had in 60 years all of a sudden and it's terrible we're not doing one-sided deals then he killed tpp it was not elected you've got to do what it takes and overthrow him okay okay because he it's a coup so we have to overthrow him even though he was elected account everything he says trump's done they're doing this is so illegal here he is in the outfits around the world too secret to have their names known to us you must become for the moment americans we need what you have and we need it now and we need it made public pause we uh so give us all your dirt give us all your made-up garbage which there isn't any there is i mean it's incredible the clintons are on the chinese and russian payroll the globalists have sold the country there's none of them are trying to

get sovereignty back and they're the ones running around saying he's what they are here it is yeah right it is more than just the fate of this sloppy but well-meaning country that is at risk oh this sloppy but well-meaning oh i'm sorry we're sloppy i'm sorry i had my show for a decade running down america every day but it's not what he's saying because i like it now if foreign governments help overthrow this evil president so do you have our faults for good or bad we cannot be left as a fascist rogue state and an enemy of freedom and international comedy the fate of all freedoms may rest in your hands and your willingness to not merely hint but show what you know if we go under you are next the freedom you save will be your own i get a little blowhardy yeah fuck

this fuck over man peace man that guy's phony reading off a teleprompter in that 10 Monday kidnapper outfitting wears dead body kidnapper we're gonna go to somebody who has been involved in regime change as a co-author with tom clancy informally worked in special operation black ops state department you name it this is psychiatrist and doctor and a lot more dr. steve chenic popping and then wait a second calls the next hour we have wait the fucking second he just did 35 minutes screaming we're gonna go to a guy who has been involved with the regime changes that we do all the time and has claimed on my own show that he was involved in a coup against our government holy fuck hey nothing is real hey dan i think i hear something at

the door is let me open this door it's probably a bill collector don't answer it i'm gonna open this door creek you busted no so stupid like all of that is so stupid that's just recorded four hours the punchline is this regime regime change guy is my guest yeah it's fucking so stupid i don't get it i don't get it god damn it i thought we were gonna i thought we were gonna bookend it with the uh the clip a couple of clips ago this one perfect actually i forgot to play our out of context drop so i might as well do it now here's a bookend for you it isn't the trump doesn't know how to use technology he doesn't trust it good he thinks robots are evil all right do you understand it isn't that trump doesn't love chimeras it's that he doesn't trust

him it's not that he's a 70 year old man who is spooked out by handheld devices he doesn't understand mobile phone technology it's not it's not that he just doesn't trust it and frankly based on his uh situation regarding leaks and recordings jesus he's probably smart not to trust anything i wouldn't either uh so good good good spin uh we got to get out of here we do how many hours are we at four uh guys you can follow us on twitter at knowledge underscore fight your name is jack posobia hit us up with a direct message oh for sure or you can email us at knowledge fight at gmail dot com i was about to say something that's all fair uh knowledge fight dot com's our website you can subscribe to us on itunes you can share our

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