Knowledge Fight - #410: March 19-20, 2020

Episode Date: March 23, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss the stretch of time when Alex Jones should have just gone on vacation. In this installment, Alex claims that at least six sci-fi movies are real and interviews Ted Nugent's wife as an expert about coronavirus.

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I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed we are, Dan. Jordan. Dan. Jordan.

Quick question. What's up? Everybody is now, of course, working from home. We, you and I both have been working from home for a long time now. Do you have any tips for people? No, I do it poorly. Okay. Nope, I got no tips.

The end. I have absolutely no tips, but I do have like actually fuck this question because I really can't be all that helpful. I don't, I don't do work from home. Well, I'm very consumed with work. You've literally worked from home for three years now. No, two years. Two years.

First year or so of the show. I was right. Right. But um, no, I don't really have any tips other than like, I think you should listen to someone else. I think other people have better advice. All right. All right.

Okay. But I have a question for you. Sure. What's that? My question for you. Yes, sir. Is Jordan. What in this time has given you some bright spots?

What out there is is like? What's a what's a nice, you know, solid ray of sunshine in the period? I'd like to every episode. You and I give you want to try this one. Give a little bit of a like a positive. Hey, this is something that is giving me a little smile. Let's see. I mean, it's hard.

I can go first. Go for yeah. Go for it. Okay. You've been thinking about that. Not not a ton, but something I've really like to give a shout out to is this snack called Pop Corners. It's a popcorn chip.

Okay. And their jalapeno cheddar flavor. All right. Perhaps one of the best things I've ever had in my life. Okay. I bought like three bags. If I'm hoarding anything, it's maybe the jalapeno cheddar Pop Corners. Okay.

All right. Because I'm desperately afraid of running out of them. But to be fair, even in a non crisis, I probably would be hoarding them. Yeah. Yeah. If we're in the end times, you're going to need some popcorn. But even if we're not, I still want back to the delicious. I can't risk the store running out of Pop Corners and they will.

They will. You know they will. Those are people are stealing those right now. I usually don't like Pop Corn based chips, but these ones are good. All right. I like it. All right. Let's see mine.

Steven Universe Future. Okay. This is the last last 10 episodes of Steven Universe, which is an incredible show about a young boy who is also a crystal gem and so on and so forth. It's a really heartfelt and right now it is dealing with a narrative that is purely based on like recovery from PTSD and finding yourself and doing all of these different things and how he's dealing with it. And that's great.

It's, it's really, really good for right now, especially it's a really comforting thing. Watch the entire series. That's what I would recommend. Great. Absolutely. Watch some Steven Universe. You got it.

Golden. Absolutely. So Jordan, this podcast, we're trying to give a little bit of a ray of sunshine and I know a lot about Alex Jones. And I like to do the former and I don't know anything about the latter. So today we got an interesting episode to go over. We're looking at the end of last week, March 19th and 20th, 2020. I'm Dan.

This is 2020. And you know, hey, you know, some of it's going to be shitty. It is what it is. Some of it's going to be stupid. All right. I questioned even the point of doing our show as normal for a large stretch of the since our last episode. Yeah.

Yeah. The idea of in these circumstances, who would want to be listening to Alex Jones? And the answer was not me now. And I can't imagine most of the audience wanting to listen to him either. It's it's a disaster. Right. I've gotten messages a bunch in the past from people who've said things like I don't know how you do it.

I don't know how you listen to him all the time. And usually it's not that impactful for me. Like it's not that difficult to listen to him, but I'm finding in these circumstances. It's rough. It's not ideal. Rough going. Yes. So I will take all those like old sympathies that people sent me and I'll apply them

now and I appreciate everyone's kind thoughts because this shit. Well, we all thank you, Dan. Yeah. And for you, we wouldn't be able to congregate here as we so have. And to turn around and thank everybody else. Absolutely. Particularly some people who signed up and are supporting the show. Perfect.

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So, Jordan, I want to give a little bit of a preamble to this episode. All right. I believe that as this public health crisis continues and things get worse and a little bit more frightening and uncertain, I want to take a moment to address something that I've been wrestling with a little bit. It's a thought that's kind of natural to come up in these sorts of circumstances. And that is was Alex Jones, right? It can be difficult because I think it's very important to recognize in situations like

this, that even when some of Alex's vague predictions come true, he's still wrong. There's an important dynamic to consider. And that is that Alex is an alarmist by nature. He has to elicit very intense emotions of fear and anxiety from his audience in order to keep them in the fold. So every world event is presented with an amplified level of intrigue, usually by painting everything as a globalist plot against him or his friends. In this case, his alarmism feels warranted, you know, because what we see happen.

Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, alarm. Obviously his show went way past the line in terms of being healthy alarmism and it drifted deeply into chicken little the sky is falling territory, which is the first major strike that I would have against him. Alex's alarmism was never also never pointed in any productive direction. For instance, when he would talk about the low number of tests being done in the United States, his solution wasn't to push for increased testing. He instead decided to yell about how he imagined the lack of testing was a globalist plot to

embarrass Trump. And that's actually good because Trump needs to keep the infection numbers artificially low to avoid a panic, which would hurt him politically. And it worked out perfectly great. The point that the government was making the point that they were making a failing in terms of testing is a fair one. But the conclusion that Alex arrives to because of that is ludicrous. There were various things that he said that you can't really dispute have come to pass,

but it's important to recognize what sorts of things those are. There are two major categories of let's call them predictions that appear to have come true. The first is completely obvious byproducts of things getting worse with the virus. In this category, you have predictions like the stock market is going to go down. By the point this was a main talking point for Alex, the city of Wuhan was already under a lockdown. So even if things didn't spread much past that point, it's a pretty safe bet that there would be some economic implications.

This is not the sort of prediction that you could really give someone a ton of credit for. And it's also important to recognize how this prediction was used. This was never presented as Alex giving straight financial market predictions. It was always delivered in the context of saying that hurting the market to embarrass Trump was the ultimate goal, which is why the globalists released the virus to begin with. This is important to remember that the stock market's taking a hit was not a consequence of events happening in the real world. It was the secret motivation behind it all, which Alex has in no way proven beyond just saying it.

Further, the idea that the globalists released the virus to try to attack the stock market to embarrass Trump is used to justify Trump's involvement in the delayed and bad response to the outbreak. Trump didn't put out adequate numbers of tests because he knew that the virus was just the globalist trying to tank the economy. And he knew that if the real numbers were out there, the public would panic and the market would fall. Let's remember this is the good guy in Alex's story. Not all that impressive prediction that the market would be affected by an outbreak is ultimately repackaged into an imaginary motivation for the outbreak itself and then used to justify Trump's

negligence in his response to it. The other type of prediction that Alex is kind of right about is the things that he predicted which are actually the result of a negligent response. One of the big early ones in this category is how Alex said that there would be an outbreak around Seattle, which did turn out to be correct. This was a pessimistic prediction, but it wasn't an outlandish one given that there's already a confirmed case in the area. If you're an alarmist, you will take that case and you will build on it, which is what Alex did.

It's important to recognize that Alex's behavior in this crisis isn't really out of the normal for him. Back in 2014, he was saying that Obama was trying to bring Ebola into the country, but you forget about that hysteria because the situation was handled with appropriate intensity. There was international cooperation and Obama took care of that shit, along with everybody else who was involved. There are hundreds of examples like this, even outside the medical sphere. Every time Alex yells at his audience after a shooting about all the guns being taken, all the times he would prophesy a total collapse of the economy in a summer of rage, back when he was primarily a gold pitchman, or the many, many times Alex has said that the globalists are going to try to kill Trump within the next week.

Alex's business model largely relies on being wrong all the time, but insisting the audience forget about all those incorrect predictions and narratives and only focus on the stuff he was close to write about. As the coronavirus situation gets worse, he's able to play the game where he can say that he was right and everyone called him wrong, but it's important to recognize that even if he hits some of the points on this, he's still a liar and a fraud. It's also crucial not to lose sight of the main elements of his conspiracy. He believes that the Gates Foundation already has a treatment or a vaccine for this, which is incorrect. He's just lying about a group that the Gates have given some money to, the Peer Bright Institute,

that has a patent for a completely unrelated coronavirus related to a vaccine for chickens. He's asserted as fact that the virus is manmade, is tons of different viruses all lumped together, and has, quote, the HIV delivery system. All of this is from a non-peer reviewed study that was self-retracted by its authors after the methodology and conclusions began getting some review from their scientific peers who found their work to be deeply flawed. Alex still believes every exaggeration he's made about that study to be founded, proven, and true. He believes without any evidence that the study was retracted because the authors were pressured by the globalists. Alex has claimed that Lancet said the virus had a 15% mortality rate, which is not true.

The study only looked at a handful of patients who already had developed severe symptoms like pneumonia, and it's not something you can extrapolate to the general population. Even Alex has explained that on air, indicating that he understands what the study was about, but he's not stopped from making the claim that Lancet said there was a 15% mortality rate. That is him lying. He believed and asserted as fact that the virus was stolen from a lab in Winnipeg, then sent to China. This is not true. So not true, in fact, that Alex later decided it was disinformation, since his dumb, dumb expert Francis Boyle came up with a better narrative.

That narrative was that the virus was created in a lab at UNC Chapel Hill. This is not true. This narrative was wholly based on the term gain of function appearing in a study from UNC in 2015, as well as a recent study about the novel coronavirus. The 2015 study had to do with a researcher giving a coronavirus a gain of function related to ACE2 cleavage. Whereas the recent study was about the current virus, it was noting that the virus appeared to have a naturally occurring gain of function related to furan cleavage. These are not the same thing at all, but a non-scientist had found the word gain of function in both studies

and that constitutes a closed case on Alex's show. Alex is asserted as fact based on that study from 2015 that Obama sold the virus to China. This is not true. This is just a lie based on the fact that there was some Chinese funding that went into the study, which does not prove the sale of a virus, and it can also be explained very easily. Alex is asserted as fact based on the headline that he found about that 2015 UNC study that there was a big public debate about Obama selling the virus to China. This was an article on the website The Scientist with the headline, quote, Lab Made Coronavirus Triggers Debate.

Alex has just decided that the debate the headline's referring to is whether or not Obama should have sold it to China, which is a complete fabrication. He's just making that up. It's a lie. This is a very short article, and if you read it, it's clear that the debate is about whether gain of function studies themselves are ethical. Alex is asserted as fact and then walked back and then re-embraced the idea that the coronavirus is a race specific bio weapon targeting Asian military aged men, possibly the deep state attacking China for fentanyl. He has no reason to believe this at all. It's completely made up. Yes. One theory he floated is that Trump is the reason this is happening in retaliation. That was that was a short lived. Yeah, but that was there.

There are plenty more examples, but these are the very foundational lies and misinterpretations Alex has used to build up his central conspiracy. This isn't saying anything about the shit he's allowed his guests to do. He let Steve Pachanic claim that he was the first person in the United States to get the virus and they cured himself with antibiotics, even though antibiotics don't treat viruses. He let Mike Adams lie about how mosquitoes transmit disease. He has suppose he's supported callers making claims ranging from the virus is meant to kill off everyone on social security to don't pop air bubbles because the air in theirs from China could be infected. That one's true though. In high anxiety times, the work of alarmists and propagandists becomes more appealing because we're all confused and probably scared.

If you aren't paying close attention, the finer details of what Alex is doing fade into the background and you just kind of remember him saying that the market was going to go down and that martial law was going to come in. Though there isn't really martial law at this point when we're recording, there are cities and states putting in place various quarantine measures and it's hard not to feel like that's the same thing. It's a little martial law-y. It's martial law-ish. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's an S. It's in the neighborhood.

It's in the martial ballpark. Yeah. The issue though is that these things that Alex is right about were relatively avoidable consequences of decisions the president he supports made or failed to make. If Obama had handled the Ebola outbreak in 2014, the way Trump has handled this outbreak, Alex probably would have looked a lot closer to right back then too. Yeah. Anyway, my point is that whatever superficial things Alex has been kind of correct about are way, way overshadowed by the things he's been completely and glaringly wrong about, which happened to be the cornerstones of his conspiracy. Yeah.

Anyway, I'm sorry about this big rant to begin the episode, but I really have this feeling of that being a question in my head. Yeah. And I want to stop that question out. Right. Because he's not. No, no, absolutely not. And this is not like even if he's glomming on to some shit, this is something that people, epidemiologists have been predicting an outbreak like this for 20 years. That can be part of the conspiracy.

Yeah, of course, of course, but the point is not that he is right by any stretch kind of you can as long as you're paying attention to what professional experts are saying and then using that as kind of a basis for prediction. You'll probably be right often enough. And then if you're a conspiracy theorist, you just say it's part of the conspiracy, but Alex not hard predict an outbreak. No, of course, predicted natural consequences, right, such as the stock market going down and then packaging it as the reason the virus is right. Right. Released. Yeah. To begin with, it's it's easy to.

I don't know. I would want to call it missing the forest for the trees and think like, oh, wait, he's kind of right. Yeah, he's not. And it's also a little bit like there's an arsonist in Chicago and he's like, don't worry about the arsonist and it starts burning down building. He's like, okay, well, eventually it's going to burn down buildings, but you don't need to worry about it. And then the great Chicago fire happens and he's like, there's going to be economic consequences for this. And he's like, yeah, dude, you help get us here. So we're going to get to today's episode and start on the 19th.

But before we do, here's not a context drop from today's show. By the way, you go to Cuba today and the most beautiful women you can imagine will have sex with you for a $2 little tube of warmer. How do you know that? Ah, it was message boards. So we start on the 19th and it's actually kind of fitting because Alex is going through his, you know, he really feels like he's proven that the Democrats and the left. They're all cheering for the economy to collapse because they want to hurt Trump. We got it, which is sort of the justification for why he believes that the virus was released in order to store the economy because the Democrats were wanting that because they want to hurt Trump. And dude, it's so obvious and this is going to be a running theme throughout this episode.

It's all just Bill Maher. We're going to get into the public plan by the globalist. You've you've seen the Democrats. You've seen MSNBC CNN. You've seen Bill Maher. You've seen them celebrate and say we want a recession or depression to punish Trump voters and kill the U.S. economy. So we submit and it's worth it to take the hit. Bill Maher just said that two weeks ago again and now you see our economy targeted.

It's all Bill Maher. Bill Maher. Alex is just mad at Bill Maher and pretending that everybody's saying exactly the same things as Bill Maher. It's ludicrous. That's not fair. No, that's not fair. And when you recognize that that's kind of the foundation for his belief or his justification for claiming that the Democrats wanted to destroy the economy to attack Trump, which is why they'd release the virus. It's like stop watching Bill Maher.

Stop. You don't have to watch it or or just do a podcast about Bill Maher. We do one about you. Just do that. Stop pretending that it's something bigger than it is. That's such that's such though like a perfect encapsulation of why anybody is arguing like oh Bernie people aren't ready to vote for a socialist. It does not matter. Does not matter.

Biden will be called a socialist ad nausea on the same way that we are called people who want the economy to collapse because Bill Maher said it does not matter. But it's also because there's a little bit of code with socialist for people like Alex and it's just anybody who supports social welfare program. Anybody who has any kind of idea that the state should do things. Yeah, basically is a socialist to that. Yeah, exactly. So when you, you know, you have them calling like Obama socialist. They're called John Kerry is dictator John Kerry. They'll do that.

And it's like that doesn't make sense. But in their very anti communist Cold War holdover mentality that is socialism. Absolutely. And so yeah, I guess, you know, that's that that's the issue. Whoever you put up, it doesn't matter that attack is going to come. Oh yeah. So Alex has figured out that this is going to be not a short lived situation in America. Just now donning on him.

Yep. Let me lay a few things out here first. Oops. Real number that emerged about a week ago is now confirmed the government's looking at 18 months. The EU first announced this last week 18 months of lockdown. So see, first they tell you, oh, it's just two weeks. It's also always two weeks. And then QAnon is going to bring down the deep state.

Nice. Two weeks and we'll see all the indictments happen. That's been happening for three years. Well, same thing. Oh, two weeks. You'll be allowed out of your houses. But notice every couple of days they announced more restrictions, more controls until they get the depression they're looking for.

Hold on to that thought that Alex doesn't like QAnon for later. Okay. Keep that in your back pocket. All right, right. So admittedly, I have no idea how long anything is going to actually last. I have no predictive abilities on that front. Even experts trying to predict that have difficulty because a whole lot of outcome is based on individual action.

And if people don't take this seriously, the time frame for things to get back to what you might call normal is going to extend. And there's just almost no way you can, like you'll see these people have models and they always have very different outcomes depending on different actions that are taken. And so, and even those are, you know, who knows the 18 month number that Alex is talking about is specifically related to the UK. Boris Johnson had previously announced that their strategy was going to be trying to develop a herd immunity to the virus by people just going on live in their lives, which epidemiologists

roundly said was a very bad idea. I really think that we shouldn't elect lunatic reality TV show star slash magazine commentators to our highest offices. Yep. I think it's a bad idea. It's not, it's not productive. I don't think it's a good idea, Dan. According to an article in time modeling of that strategy, they heard immunity strategy

found that it would quote exceed healthcare systems maximum capacities many times over. So I thought that's what he was talking about because there was an article about Boris Johnson having to be like, wow, this is going to take a long time, you know, but it's still not 18 months in lockdown. It's this this wave may last. Yeah, that that extent of time. Yeah. But so I thought that's what it was, but that's that's not where the 18 month number comes

from. That's the estimated time it will take to develop and get approval for a vaccine at which point all the restrictions for social distancing and similar measures would not be necessary. This is not a statement that anyone is going to be in lockdown for 18 months. It's merely a reflection that we will need to have some sort of containment considerations probably until there's a vaccine. And that's the estimated timeframe for that 12 to 18 months. Yeah, it's also inaccurate to say that these things will only last a few weeks.

That's a slight misunderstanding of statements from health officials about the lengths of things like stay at home rules like we have here in Illinois, which lasts until April 7. There is a possibility that it'll extend after that, maybe probably, but that's the period where things can be reassessed and experts will know a little bit more at that point. Yeah. So when people are saying it'll last two weeks, they're not saying that hey, we're all good in two weeks. Right.

That's the period and then we'll reassess and know more from that point. It's them all trying to be like, can we please hit pause on this? We're going to try and test everybody and get a full idea of where exactly we are. And then we can move forward instead of being like, I guess we're just going to go for it. Let's see what happens. Yeah. Ride it out. Why not?

I wrote in a newspaper for a bit. It's probably pessimistic to assume that social distancing measures will last 18 months, but it's also probably naive to assume it will only last two weeks. It's probably a good idea to expect worse than the best case scenario, but if people take this seriously and we get lucky on the medical side of things, the worst case scenario doesn't have to come to pass either. The other thing that this is based on is a post on Michael Snyder's economic collapse blog, which Alex has reposted on info wars titled quote, the US government is preparing

it for an 18 month pandemic and critical shortages. The sub headline is quote, are you prepared for the nationwide shutdown that's happening now to last 18 months? No. This blog post is based on a 103 page health and human services document that the New York Times released titled US government COVID-19 response plan. The only place on this document that 18 months comes up is in the section that lists the assumptions that this plan was based on.

And number two is quote, a pandemic will last 18 months or longer and could include multiple waves of illness. It would be important to also point out that assumption number three is quote, the spread and severity of COVID-19 will be difficult to forecast and characterize. So that's even kind of a caveat to assumption number two. This is a document that's primarily about government agency responsibility for various considerations. It's an organizational document more than anything else.

And I think it would be a real stretch to assume that you can take this document to prove that even the government is planning for an 18 month lockdown. The thing that's important to remember is that this 18 month number is an assumption of how long the pandemic may have an effect on the country that requires a plan. But that doesn't mean the same thing as there's going to be a year and a half lockdown. One key point is that that this is a full plan and it involves a stage after the active pandemic in its timeline. The phase where we'd be returning to what they call a quote pre epidemic posture.

That's part of the 18 month lifespan of the plan of whatever they're assuming. This doesn't say that there will be an 18 month lockdown and in fact one of the most critical considerations of the document is quote revisions in the scenarios modeling and projections used to inform planning and consequent changes in planning should be made to accommodate changes in knowledge about COVID-19 characteristics affecting the parameters used for this modeling. So even this plan says this could change. We will have to revise these scenarios as more information comes in. We don't know the future.

The end. So using that to be like you're going to be locked in your home for 18 months is hysterical. Quite frankly. So that's not fair. Neither is how Alex has sold his food buckets. Okay. That's true. And I think that Alex is feeling a little bit defensive about that.

Right. About his behavior vis-à-vis sales. And so he gets into that a little bit in this next clip. The truck drivers are still delivering but most people in the warehouses have panicked to put their tail between their legs and run home. Not understanding. You're going to get a big, giant, great depression now. Take that.

And if it really collapses, millions will starve to death. Seven million major universities, look it up, starved to death during the Great Depression in the United States. Cause death malnutrition. So this is a little weird. This is in the middle of a discussion about Alex's food buckets that kind of feels like a sales pitch. But he's also saying that my Patriot supply has stopped taking new orders.

I'm not sure if that's true because according to their website. I just checked it in an update from March 20th. They're still taking orders. There's a 12 week delivery window. I'm not sure what the situation is here. Like maybe they've said Alex. Yeah. We don't want to be associated with that.

I don't think that you don't think I think that maybe it's like we can't handle the load from all of right affiliates right because they do sell through tons of right wing media figures. So it might just be a thing where it's like we're not taking discounted orders from our affiliates anymore. We're only taking direct orders. We're not going to give them a cut. Yeah.

Yeah. We're going to do our own thing. We have a demand that's high enough that we don't need affiliate right now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. It's but again, that's just a guess.

Right. I don't know that to be the case, but I do know that their website is still taking orders. This really just feels like, you know, because he's saying that they're not taking orders anymore. It doesn't feel like a sales pitch because it can't be anything to sell. He doesn't have anything. Yeah. It just feels defensive.

So that's why he's talking about how dare you seven million people died last time. Huh? Do you want to be one of those people? No, I'm not a bad person for obviously exploiting this crisis that I didn't know is this bad until pretty much right fucking now and now I feel bad about it. So we've heard Alex talk about that in the past how millions starved to death during the Great Depression and we've discussed how it's absolutely not true. He keeps bringing it up though.

In this case, it's in the context of talking about his food bucket. So I was a little curious about this claim and where it comes from. The one thing you can be certain of is anytime Alex says something comes from quote major universities, it does not come from major universities. It turns out that this stat traces back to research done in 2008 by a Russian gentleman named Boris Borisov. It doesn't sound real. I know, but it is Boris Boris man.

That is the guy's name. All right. The research was widely covered in outlets like Pravda and RT, but it didn't get a ton of traction outside of those places, most likely because his work was very flawed. Demographers have looked at his assumptions and found that the research is just not good. His basic point is that if you review census data, there are about 7 million people unaccounted for during the Great Depression and therefore they must have all starved to death. That doesn't sound great.

No. Leaving aside how that's a gigantic leap to make and it's unclear if 7 million are even unaccounted for during that period. There's a ton of other explanations for the demographic numbers like people not filling out censuses during the Great Depression or mass relocation caused by things like the Dust Bowl. Exactly. Without minimizing the hardships of people living in the Depression era, there's just

no good evidence that 7 million people died of starvation. And that raises the question, what's behind this claim that Borisov is making? It's pretty explicit in that Pravda article that the intention here was to frame the Great Depression as America's Holodomor. Okay. All right. So. So yeah.

The goal is whitewashing the U.S. SSR's manmade famine in Ukraine. Okay. Sure. Millions of people starved to death, but it was America did it. See? We're it's not. We're not bad guys.

Everybody was starving people for fun. That was a normal thing. Mao. He was doing it. Everybody loved it. The Holodomor is way too complicated for us to get into on this episode. But it, this is super weird for Alex. He is a huge anti-communist, anti-USSR guy.

His entire worldview has grown out of the red-baiting hardliners during and after the Cold War. So it seems very out of sync for him to be citing a statistic about U.S. deaths during the Great Depression that was more or less produced as a propaganda narrative to minimize the case of the USSR causing a famine that killed millions. This is an instance where the message of the erroneous stat, that 7 million U.S. citizens starved in the Great Depression is more important than the context of where that stat comes from. It's because Alex is selling these food buckets and the erroneous stat helps him further

and justify that goal. So who cares if it comes from a pro-USSR anti-USS, USA piece of propaganda? This is nuts. It is really like we are in a like the abyss looking back kind of period of of right wing history. You know, all of these guys are born from a blatant anti-communist lunatic mill, but because the only people now who agree with them in terms of propaganda output are those former communist people, they have to become strange.

It's just like radical Christians, like radical Christians agree more with radical Islam than they do with anything else. Like the strange times make strange bedfellows kind of situation there, or you become what you hate the most like that kind of perhaps. Yeah, it's just it's just weird. It's weird. Alex wants to sell more than he cares about these principles of hate in the U.S. What are you going to do?

What are you going to do? Come on. You would think you would think if you like find this article about 7 million Americans dying of starvation during the Great Depression, you may look into it. And then you'd be like, huh, that's not true. Why is this person making this claim? All right. He did.

Alex is none of that. He's just like, yep. Boris Boris off sounds great. I'm going to pretend I saw that from a major university. I know we are going with it. All right. He is a dumb asshole. So there's a thing that's going on that I think is really good and appropriate and that

is that certain states are taking moves to release people from prison. Yeah. During this coronavirus outbreak because overcrowding in prisons will be very detrimental to people's health could end up in a very bad situation. I mean, it's an incubator. Like it is if we should remove, we should release them from prison. I mean, we should do a lot of that anyway. Yeah, exactly.

I mean, even if you even if you don't want to, this is even if you have no interest in the good part of it, just out of pure self interest. If you do not release people from prisons and you keep them in an overcrowded space, the virus is going to get in there and go fucking hog wild and then it's going to get out. Or at least you're creating a circumstance where that is likely or more possible than it would be. Absolutely.

So Alex is mad about that and he lies about it a little bit. Many lies about some other stuff. It was hundreds yesterday. LA has now released thousands since two days ago. It's now thousands today. There's an article from yesterday saying hundreds, but don't worry. I have all the stacks of articles right here that if you get caught, in France trying to go out and even walk your dog, you're going to jail.

Oh, they're letting the Islamics out and they're letting the child molesters out, but they want you the producer to know we own your ass. Hey, whites. Hey, that's the message dog walkers get in there. So in France, you can still walk your dog. The government website literally lists the acceptable reasons to leave your home and one of them is quote for short trips close to your home link to physical individual activity and the for the needs of domestic pets.

There you go. They've put in a system where you need to fill out a form to have in your possession in case you're out and you're stopped by a patrolling officer, you know, to, you know, which I'm not super thrilled with, but I kind of understand. I don't like a whole pass, but I don't know this for certain, but I have to think that if you're out walking your dog, even if you don't have one of those forms, you're probably just going to get a warning. Either way, France isn't putting people in jail for violating the quarantine

guidelines. There's just a fine of 135 euros. You know what? We have all of these people that we need to keep separated. So if one of them gets out, we need to put them with a whole bunch of other people. This makes perfect sense. Right. That's a problem of the thinking.

Yeah. As to the issue of California releasing prisoners, I can't find any evidence that the prisoners being released are the ones who are convicted of violent crimes. And from what I can tell, it's mostly people who had pretty short times left on their sentences to begin with. Prison overcrowding is a very serious issue, particularly in a public health crisis. Anything that can be done to minimize the risk that incarcerated persons face

is something that should be considered. Does that mean releasing all murderers? Not necessarily, but it does mean possibly releasing nonviolent drug offenders. So there's appropriate space to house the violent offenders in the prison setting responsibly from everything I can tell from the articles I've read. That's basically what's happening. Yeah.

For someone like Alex, who allegedly is opposed to people being in jail for drugs and likes to pretend he's a fucking libertarian should be a good thing. But it's not because he wants to try and turn it into a wedge thing where they're letting the Islamists know the immigrants. Uh-oh. They let them run wild. What do they share?

The producers. The producers. They're going to jam you up. You know, producers do have one like in his mind, physical, characteristic in common. Sure. I would say. Yeah.

He talks about that a little bit more here. Okay. The illegal aliens and Islamic invaders, they're just burning things, running around, raping, laughing, control whole areas of cities, no-go zones. That doesn't sound true. But all the compliant good slaves are being nailed to the wall. So I'm going to tell you again, we have a big supply of a lot of our supplements.

God damn it. Wow. You motherfucker. Wow. You would think that that behavior would go away in a crisis. Wow. Mother fucker. Yeah.

How can you be defensive about food sales? And then all of a sudden be like, well, yeah, obviously we need to get rid of all illegal aliens and immigrants and Muslims, and you should buy pills too. Just so you know, we need to get rid of all the immigrants in it, but you should buy pills. It's a bit. It's a bit much. I'll say that brutal.

That's brutal. Yeah. That is really fucking scary from my position. Anybody who has any concerns about Alex like really being on the up and up and being right about stuff. Yeah. Go check on on that. That behavior.

Come back and talk to me. So Alex on this episode is is mostly on the like, you know, the martial laws coming. It's here tip. There's not a whole lot of evolution in terms of narratives about the virus because a lot of that's pretty solidified like the it was made in that lab at UNC Chapel Hill. Obama sold it to China by a weapon.

Yeah. The whole thing. But now he needs to build from there and you know this is a very obvious development and that is the Bill Gates is the big bad guy. Sure. He's the villain behind all of this. Yeah. Certainly not.

So Alex gets into that a little bit here. So here is just a short sampling of Bill Gates who headed up the UN disease X operation saying this mystery thing's coming in a few years. Get ready. World government will save you. Then he did a tabletop exercise in November where 65 million die from a coronavirus. Now they rolled a 20. He's got the patented vaccine ingredient.

I mean they got the vaccine ready. Then they have all these TV shows that he finances about how he's a hero creating a vaccine to stop a world pandemic and out of China we get the bird flu the swine flu. And now this the wine flu and SARS for the big pandemics all from China. All that stuff about Bill Gates is nonsense and it's stuff we've gone over in the past. But I wanted to check in real quick with Alex's claim there at the end that all these diseases come out of China. I really don't think they do Dan.

So the bird flu is not one specific disease. There are a lot of avian influenza. But obviously the one Alex is talking about is H five and one interestingly the first case of human H five and one was found in Hong Kong which according to Alex's stated policy set. He doesn't believe that's part of China. So that's but that's on the cusp. Yeah.

Yeah. We would call that China for the purposes of this argument. Right. Right. Right. The 2009 H one and one swine flu pandemic was one that had a more at the time it had a pretty openly debated origin like people weren't entirely clear in 2016 researchers at the icon School of Medicine at Mount Sinai demonstrated through genetic analysis that

that virus traced back to central Mexico. SARS and the current outbreak are fair to say that they started in China but using that information in any context outside of epidemiology sounds kind of pointless. Alex doesn't really know anything about this topic as evidenced by his claim that all these outbreaks originated in China. He's just trying to play the game of assigning blame to his chosen target. In this case China Bill Gates. Yeah.

Also if he's saying that these are the four big pandemics then what about Zika and MERS or what about Ebola. He did a whole lot of Ebola coverage in his day. So it's weird to see that left off his list. You don't need to worry about that one. You don't support with today's narrative so it doesn't exist. Yeah. I can't.

I cannot. It just it's so stupid like unless China literally made it which they didn't then you can't it doesn't matter where it originates. It's just viruses can exist and explode from literally anywhere. Yes. They're old. They're older than us. There's an element of randomness.

Yeah. You might as well blame Earth or not even that fucking space. Viruses are are just part of the game. I'm down with that. Yeah. I think it's space's fault. That's what we need to space for. It's entirely possible viruses seeded all life on this planet.

Trump is trying to create space for us not in order to in space space to fight space itself. Yes. Okay. All right. So you got to find that dark matter somehow smoke it. So on this show. This is the 19th.

Yeah. This is Thursday. Yeah. Alex is a big interview coming up on Friday and I want you to try and guess who you think the guest is. Big interview on Friday. Big interview. Big interview.

He doesn't usually promote the next day's interview. Okay. In advance. All right. And he does it multiple times on this episode. Okay. So who do you think it is? It's got to be disappointing.

You bet. I'm either going to go Nick Fuentes or our big boy. Stevie P's. Nope. Special guest on Mars. Shemay Nugent. Very smart lady. Got to know her and Ted Nugent pretty good over the years.

She's a lot in her words, bolder than she used to be. She's willing to really let it all hang out. And so this is an interview. You don't want to miss tomorrow at high noon. We're going to talk. Coronavirus. The Q movement. Ted Nugent.

He's going to have Ted Nugent's wife on to talk. Coronavirus. She. She's what does she do? She writes books. Some of them about being married to Ted Nugent. There we go. Okay.

So that makes her well situated to talk about the coronavirus. She's a Zumba instructor. We'll get into her when she shows up. So she's a super spreader. Is that what she's talking about here? I don't know. I think I think her and Ted live in the woods. We'll get to that whenever she shows up on the show.

But that's just it's so ludicrous to me. The idea. We got a big interview. We got Ted Nugent's wife. So like I said, this is going to be a high demand. Certainly. Yeah. There is a theme that runs through this, like I said,

that when Alex talks about the bringing down to the economy, it's just Bill Maher sickening people because they're not just trying to blame Trump with this and kill the economy as they said they would do to bring down Trump and to teach Americans as Bill Maher said to roll over and bow down. It's such authoritarian. I don't like Bill Maher shorting the market. So you can see in that clip again, they only reference Alex

can ever make when he talks about the plan to bring down the economy to get rid of Trump is something Bill Maher said on HBO and Alex wants to believe that there's an elaborate globalist conspiracy afoot, but weirdly the only proof is something that Bill Maher said great. So last week there were a lot of stories that came out about people in Congress selling off stock weirdly right after they got a briefing about the coronavirus situation.

That was such a really interesting coincidence that happened. I'm really like, I feel bad for them because this looks so bad. You know, I'm sure this was entirely innocent. Yeah, they need to prove their good names. According to the Hill Republicans, Kelly Loeffler, James Inhofe and Richard Burr as well as Democrat Dianne Feinstein quote each sold hundreds of thousands of dollars in stock within days of the Senate holding a classified briefing on

January 24th with Trump administration officials on the threat of the coronavirus outbreak. News flash four of the worst people in the world do the worst thing in the world. Everyone's got an excuse, but I'm not sure anyone cares. I don't know what the government should do about these individual cases, but it's probably time to ban elected officials from having stocks.

The inherent conflict of interest is just something we apparently can't trust people to handle responsibly when they're supposed to be acting in the public interest. I thought that's what Alex was talking about when he said people are shorting. Absolutely not. It's not. Of course not.

There's no way that he would criticize a noted monster Senator Inhofe. What these congresspeople did was sell stock, presumably based on nonpublic information, which might be accurately called insider trading. But that's not the same thing as short selling. Short selling is a super risky marketplace that goes like this. You have a hunch that a business's stock is going to drop

in price. So you borrow stocks from someone willing to lend them to you, then you immediately sell them with the expectation that you can buy them back later for a substantially lower price. At that point, you can return the stocks to the lender and pocket the profits. You theoretically make a lot of money without any initial investment.

The downside is that if your hunch is wrong and the stocks increase in value after you sell them, you're on the hook to buy them back for an increased price so you can return them to the lender. It's gambling. Yes, it's literally gambling. Our economy is built almost entirely upon short selling is not the bulk of market.

No, no, no, I know. But if you, for instance, know that there's a housing bubble, right, then you're going to get very, very, very rich while the world explodes. Yeah, because of this potential gigantic downside, most people don't advise anyone to fuck around with stuff like short selling. As market watch explains, if you buy stocks normally, the most

you can lose is 100% of your money. Conversely, with short selling, the amount you lose is literally limitless. You could lose any amount of money. Yep. Alex is not talking about these Congress people when he's talking about short selling, but because there is a story that's going to be coming up about it, wanted to explain what

short selling was before we get to that. It's real fucked up. Yeah, it's not great, but also, I don't know. I read it. I don't know my entire feeling on banning it. I read some articles that say it's a good idea. I read some articles that said it's stupid. There's no need to ban it.

I don't know. I don't know. I'm not a market expert. Don't take any advice from me. So here's where Alex gets more into this and he's talking about this short selling conspiracy that he's found. Well, what they don't tell you when they're all up there manipulating the market on television is that they're

shorting it, and they started shorting it 10 weeks ago, and I went and looked it up, and they said, a depression's going to stop Trump. If I played all the clips, we would take the rest of the hour up, but I do have someone to play next hour, a Bill Maher and CNN and MSNBC and PBS. I hate Bill Maher. I'm saying we're going to plunge the economy to get Trump.

Wow. So I know that he says that he has all these clips and he can't play them because it'll take the rest of the hour, but he like as I've listened to his show, I've never heard a compelling clip that he's played that indicates that anyone is saying that we would like the market to go down to her Trump except Bill Maher. Right.

The only fucking person. So he's talking about he's so fucking edgy. Dan because he's so edgy and because he's the mouthpiece of the globalist. Absolutely. Officially. Um, I at that clip, he was talking about someone being on TV and trying to cause the market to go down because they had been

short selling. It doesn't make clear who he's talking about until this next clip, but I'll tell you the good news. When I saw this video yesterday up on him for works.com and apologize. What's an article? I knew the guy was already that he's a villain and connected to Soros and then I went and looked him up and I went to the

YouTube of the video of him YouTube on national television. You don't see NBC. And almost every commenter was this is the guy that bought up that drug company and increased prices. 5,000%. This is the guy that is constantly doing insider stuff and shorting things and trying to bring down U.S. companies.

He calls himself an activist investor and what he works to do is go after nationalistic conservative operations. Oh, but he's a Harvard alum. So he's part of the Harvard mafia. So they call him an activist investor. So apparently he's talking about this guy, Bill Ackman, who had just done a fairly strange and possibly alarming segment on CNBC where he'd advocated Trump call for a 30 day nationwide

shutdown of the economy. I think his quote was something along the lines of like capitalism can't work with an 18 month shutdown, but it can survive a 30 day complete lockdown or whatever. It's basically his position. He had some very doom-laden predictions, but he also said that he was buying stock, which led to a lot of people accusing him of having short positions.

As Business Insider put it, there were accusations quote that he was trying to scare investors into selling so he could buy at a discount or profit from short bets. Beyond those accusations, I don't see any proof being provided that he actually did have those short positions. It's just something that people were saying. Also, Ackman is not involved with Soros in any meaningful way, beyond them both being hedge fund billionaires.

Most of the articles you can find about the two of them are about how they have opposite positions on some company over time. Ackman also doesn't hate Trump. A Vanity Fair article from November 2016 says quote, Bill Ackman looks at President Trump and likes what he sees. A fortune article from the same time quote, Bill Ackman says he's bullish on Trump. In his comments about how the economy should shut down for a

month to save itself, he was even complimentary toward Trump saying that if he could navigate this crisis, he could be reelected in November. He is not an anti-Trump guy. I don't know what Alex is doing here. You just pick them. Just pick one. You can pick any billionaire.

They're all acting evil as shit right now. I don't believe half of anything. Also, he isn't the guy who bought that drug company, increased prices 5,000%. That was Martin Shkreli, who's currently in prison. Yeah. And he should not be let out. Ackman's hedge fund had invested in a company called Valiant,

eventually leading to approximately them having control of 10% of the shares. And that company has had some drug price gouging issues. In 2017, Ackman sold off all his shares in Valiant and in the process lost $4 billion. He would go on to apologize for the investment in the company, but mostly for losing his investor's money, not for the price gouging, because he wasn't the person

who made that decision. Still very shitty being involved in that company at all, but he didn't do the price gouging. Right. Right. Alex is claiming that he did. Right. Anyway, Alex doesn't really know anything about this guy,

but he, I guess, is a villain now. So Alex claims without providing any evidence, any proof that Bill Ackman is, he's shorting key industries in the United States. Key industries. And then you find out he's shorting all these key industries. And he knows if Trump orders- Our doors are too locked.

They will then go down to close to zero and then he will buy them up and then turn the lights back on just like Rothschild did when they beat Napoleon. Rothschild had a fast ship go across. There it is. He's going to get to the boat with the message that Lord Wellington had defeated Napoleon in the Second War. They then had a fast Corvette, not a car, a fast ship,

race across and tell the stock market, Lord Wellington's been destroyed. The British Army's down. We are now vanquished by Napoleon. Stock market went to 1%. And Lord Rothschild became the richest man on earth and controlled the British Empire. That's on record.

That's in mainline history. And the same thing's happening again today. So billionaire Bill Ackerman. Ackman. So this story about Nathan Rothschild is not true. It's not in mainline history because it's a fake story that's been used as a key element of anti-Semitic propaganda for decades.

All right. Well, there is that. We covered this in extended detail in our end game coverage. But the basic element to this is that the story gained popularity first in 1846 when it was told in a pamphlet signed by a person calling themselves Satan. It was actually written by a very public anti-Semit named George Dainville.

I thought it was Boris Borisov for a second. No. But okay. The story is directly contradicted by historical evidence, but the narrative caught on anyway. And you can find it popping up all over the place in dicey settings like the 1940 Nazi propaganda film, the Rothschild's shares at Waterloo.

This is pure and simple. No two ways about it. An anti-Semitic piece of historical fiction. Anybody who repeats this line is either someone pushing it, knowing fully well that it's bogus, or they're the sort of person who would uncritically accept narratives that find a good fit in Nazi wartime propaganda. I have no idea if Ackman is short selling any industries.

And Alex has provided no proof of it on this show. I would suspect that he's probably not. Seeing as on April 16, 2019, he announced that he and his hedge fund, Pershing Square, had quote, foresworn short selling. Maybe he was lying though. I don't know. Yeah.

And Alex doesn't either. So Alex talks more about this. They said they're going to break down the economy. That's what they said, or Bill Maher said. They're killing the economy by design. And if you remember, Democrats, MSNBC, CNN, HBO host, like Bill Maher, they've all come out. I don't like Bill Maher.

They said over and over and over again that they were going to plunge the economy, that it was worth it to stop Donald Trump. I thought that went longer. That's, yeah. So I mean, it's just Bill Maher. Again, this is Bill Maher. I hate to sound like a dead horse, or I'm beating a dead horse, but like it is, it is what he, what he, it's all he's got.

Some asshole says it and now he gets to scream about how CNN and MSNBC and all of that shit. I would like to be fair to Alex. So I am going to play the full compilation of clips that he plays on his show of proving this claim. Okay. Pay attention to how much fucking Bill Maher is in this compilation. Here we go.

Here's a short compilation, just just a sampling of their revelatory behavior against all of you. Here it is. A woman asked me, do you think we're going to have a recession? And I said, well, I'd never say never. But I said, I think the economy is pretty fundamentally strong and I don't see one on the horizon. And the people kind of grimaced when I said that.

And one woman said, I want a recession because that'll help get rid of Donald Trump. And I think most liberals won't admit that. But when you see what's happened with the media coverage of the economy, Martha, over the last 10 to 14 days, the new outward isn't racism for now, it's recession. I feel like the bottom has to fall out at some point. And by the way, I'm hoping for it because I think one way

you get rid of Trump is a crashing economy. So please bring on the recession. But as far as the winning economy that the president needs from now until November, do you really see that changing? Well, I'll give you two examples. 2008, at this time, nobody thought we would have a global financial crisis right on our shores. And that's the thing that really sunk John McCain's candidacy then.

Think about 2018. You know what happened in Q4 2018? The stock market fell 20%. You know what also happened? The Dems took back the house in that period. So if the stock market were to tumble this year, if we don't get near the 3% GDP growth that this administration has been talking about for years, these are all things

that Dems can run on and they pose a problem. All right, Josh, isn't the Fed cutting rates now just going to make the next economic downturn worse? What's your prediction? I've been hoping for a recession. People hate me for it, but it would get rid of Trump, so you shouldn't hate me for it. They said we would see the global economy

entering recession in three quarters. Perfect timing, I say. I mean, I've been rooting for a recession. Sean Hannity says I'm evil for that, and I'm bringing it on. Sean, if you're watching, I'm not a genie. I can't make it happen. I'm just wishing it. If it happens, it'll be because of your Lord and the Saviour,

Donald J. Trump. A recession is a survival threat. What Trump is doing to this country is not. His trade policy with China first thoughts is more or less. So almost that entire compilation is clips of Bill Maher. One of them is just a pundit saying that Democrats can run on economic issues if the stock market is bad, which is a little shy of rooting for the market to collapse to

hurt Trump. It's just kind of like political effect. So, but that also means that if the economy does well, then Trump can run on that. I'm sure they would say that as well. So that kind of cancels out the hole. We're rooting for it. That's even part of the conversation.

Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't be surprised. It's a very implicit part of the statement. The only clip in there other than Bill Maher that's questionable at all is the first one. That was from an interview that took place in August 2019 on Fox News. The person speaking is Stephen Moore, who's an economic advisor

to Trump, a writer for the Heritage Foundation and author of a book called Trumponomics. He's a great guy. Hardly a source I would consider unbiased. No, no, no, no. That's a hard and fast. Somebody who Trump actually nominated or was going to nominate to be on the Federal Reserve.

Of course, of course. Yeah, yeah. So interestingly, that interview begins with a clip of Bill Maher and the whole premise of the interview is that Stephen Moore had recently run into a woman who believes the same thing as Bill Maher. That's great. It's so weird how all these roads just go back to right wing

assholes not being able to just admit that they're mad at Bill Maher. They want to talk about their anger, but they also want to dress it up as something more important than being mad at Bill Maher. Yeah. This was one in a series of interviews that followed that same theme that Stephen Moore did all based on an essay that he had

written about Democrats rooting for a recession. It was posted on the Heritage Foundation's website. Interestingly, that article begins, quote, last week I gave a talk to high wealth investors in San Francisco, not exactly an audience of left wing activists. That's where he runs into this woman who wanted a recession to get rid of Trump. I don't know.

I'm not sure if I buy this apocryphal story from one of Trump's advisors. I mean, it did happen in a hot tub. Yes. About how Trump's opposition wants to destroy the economy to hurt Trump. Seems like bullshit. Sure.

Well, there is that. Alex is mad at Bill Maher. He's pretending that things Mars is with a uniform position to the left. He's so pathetic. This is just this is sad. Yep. These people are stupid.

Uh-huh. I'm mad now. Yeah. Let's have a little fun because that's how Alex goes out to break and how he comes back from break. You know, it's fun when he sings over country music. Love it. It's fun when he goes over the sax and you belong to the city.

Amazing. This is so weird. He tries to hip talk over. He's shattering. He's shattering. Mike down. Mike down. Okay.

That's how they roll. And they've got the vaccine ready, but they got to the trials first and Bill Gates owns that. And in the tabletop exercise four months ago, we're 65 million died from the Corona virus. And Obama transferred the virus in 2015 under big protest to you guessed it. The Woonan Bioweapons Lab.

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Get busy. Get busy. Right about now. The fucks your brother. Oh, God. Check it out now. What a door. The funk soul, brother.

The worst. I guess you didn't know. I guess you didn't know. God, that's so bad. It's got to be. It's got to be sitting there thinking like I am fucking the coolest. I could adapt to any musical genre.

People think what rappers do is hard. Look at this shit. He crushed it. My name is Alex and I'm here to say I like to scare you in a coronavirus way. Get the fuck out of here. Done. Done.

So in this next clip, Alex reveals a shocking lack of knowledge about basic information about the situation in America. All of that craziness. The flu kills about 150 people a day if you average it out over a year in the United States alone. How many have died in the United States? Is it even a hundred? Let's look that up.

You should have known that. So on the 19th, which is when this episode was recorded, there were 207 deaths in the United States related to coronavirus. For someone like Alex to be behaving the way he is on air, it's deeply disgraceful for him to not be aware of basic information about the topic. For some context, on March 7th, there were 233 total deaths related to coronavirus in Italy.

By March 20th, there had been over 4,000. That's a two week progression and that's what we don't want to see here. Alex is the anti-martial law guy except for the many times he says he wants Trump to enact martial law. So when he sees severe measures being taken to stop a pandemic, it's kind of on brand for him to be against those measures and minimize everything.

Sure, sure, sure. And that mentality, if pervasive enough, will impede our country's ability to deal with this outbreak. Simply put, if you listen to Alex, you'll have a lot of food and silver in your home, but you'll be looking at a situation like Italy in the near future, most likely if you don't take this seriously. Yeah, they're saying the UK is showing that same

progression right now, that same two week, double after double after double. So the goal is, you know, what they keep saying, flatten the curve. Yeah, make things manageable in a way that it doesn't become a complete disaster. Yeah, Alex is not in favor, not a fan of that. And of course, the answer is well the bell curve, you know,

that goes straight. The answer is not the hospitals and everything. The answer is never the space it out. They're saying, oh, you're all still going to get it. That's why we made it, but we're going to space it out over 18 months. And of course, you know, once you've lived with having to have your papers go outside your house and drones parking

orders for 18 months, you're never going back, never going back, never coming back. Just like the UN said, world government needs a bio weapon or a new plague to get the public to accept surveillance and control and force inoculation and gun confiscation. So we better start having a discussion about that. But I know that's a thing that's happening. So I think this is a good time to point out a real problem

with what I'm feeling right now, which is pretty well suggested by that clip. Alex is saying that once you go into lockdown type situations, you never go back. This is in essence the beginning of the tyranny that he's long foretold if you believe what he's saying. And that's a problem because if I know anything at all, it's that Alex recommends fighting against that tyranny.

So what form would that take? Would it involve people not self isolating in a milder expression of this mentality? That would be damaging and it could get a lot of people hurt. But what's far more scary is if you believe what Alex is saying, it's time to kill people. What possible scenario is there that's more time to act than now?

If you believe that this is a globalist plot to bring in martial law that will never go away and kill freedom. This is a gigantic problem for Alex's rhetoric. His rhetoric relies on escalation. And once we're already in a place of almost impossibly high tension, he can really only get people killed. As the virus situation gets worse, he'll need to scale his rhetoric to match.

If things go as badly as they might, things could get really dark. Alex has already established a narrative of who's to blame for this and he can't really take that back now. Alex has already said many times that if anyone in his family gets the virus, he's going to kill some globalists, maybe Obama. If that isn't giving tacit permission to your audience to do

the same, I don't know what is. It's really fucked up. He's trapped in a extremist bubble right now. I don't know how you can deescalate this while the crisis is still going and he's already shot his wad. Yeah, I know it does seem like you. You really should have called for armed insurrection like later on, you know, like he's he's already.

He's already took us to taking us to that place. Well, I don't know if he has explicitly, but implicitly based on his rhetoric. A then B, B then C, A then C. It's a very simple equation of the things that he preaches. Yeah, it's it's trouble. He's literally given a like. Okay, if these things start to happen,

then we have to start the hot war and those things have started to happen. Yep. So what's he going to say? Whoops, my bad. I buy my pills. I meant to. That's what he's going to say.

I meant we should do it on the next pandemic and while you're waiting this one out. You're going to DNA force by my shit. You need some DNA force. Speaking of Alex's sales. How they doing? Well, you know, we got that letter from the New York Attorney General this morning.

I'm sorry. I'm the seasoned assist on the silver. He did read it correctly. And he pretends that he won that battle. Okay. You know, you saw all those big national headlines last week about Alex Jones selling fake Corona virus cures. Never said we had a cure.

Never said we had a treatment for venture. Yeah. Knock it out laboratories that produces stuff for hospitals and over the counter and everything else. And as soon as everybody found out the regulators that Walmart ordered another name and makes claims that ABL has, they've certified it all went away, didn't it? You didn't see any other articles.

It all just stopped Sunday, didn't it? Alex is pretending that he pointed out that Walmart sells silver products and just like that, everything went away, which is bullshit. There weren't any other stories after March 14th because there wasn't a story. The main story was that the New York Attorney General's office has a cease and desist letter.

That's the whole story. Follow up. Letter still sent a couple of days ago. Yeah. So, I mean, that's, that's all it's going on. There's no reason there would be any more stories unless the New York Attorney General takes further action and you wouldn't expect that to happen so quickly.

Yeah. It's perfect for Alex though. He gets to pretend that the fact that there's no more stories means that he was vindicated. In reality, it doesn't really mean anything. No. And I notice on this show, he's being far more fucking careful. Yeah.

I don't know. That's because he won. He won. He's certainly not saying the same things for the most part about his silver. Trying to be real cautious. He's constantly saying like, this isn't a cure. All right, Alex, you got bit.

Someone, some lawyer checked you. So it's, you know, there's a, there's hysteria going around. Sure. And apparently it's the mega banks that are doing it. Okay. I'm not entirely sure how that works, but here's Alex it's the big mega banks and the most powerful fortune 500 exerting their will to start a stampede in non-essential areas

they were running to have their executives go home but actually keep all their companies operating to then cancel some big public events and, and you know, have, have governments declare martial law in areas like Europe and China to then set the precedent to create the hysteria and the fear to have that done here. If Trump didn't follow suit, monkey see monkey do. Sure.

And the big thing this will create is unrest in the end. They know within a month will be into a depression with this lockdown once it's in place and they're incrementally putting more in every day. Trump's been bucking it but trying to give the rhetoric that he's doing this so that he doesn't get the political blame for the death he knows is already coming.

He's following a balancing act that we really advise him to cover. He's either listening to us or he came up with the exact same pragmatic system because regardless of they're going to hype every event like it's the end of the world. If I understand that clip, Alex is saying that the mega banks are the ones who are creating the hysteria

which involves putting Italy and China into a lockdown in order to force Trump to do the same here. Yes. So Trump is fighting against that plan by pretending to go along with it with his rhetoric. He's very smart because he is a political coward and doesn't want people to blame him for things later.

No, he's brilliant. And Alex thinks that's good leader. Four dimensional chess stand. He really feels like a wheel spinning really just. I don't. I was listening to that and like I can't even really muster the energy to care now about that stupid shit. I'm such a weak defense.

I know. I'm just amazed that even in his defenses. Trump is a giant coward like Trump is a giant baby and that's why Alex likes him. He's smart enough to take no blame for the things that he is responsible for. Right. Is not an endorsement of a candidate.

The history of books will remember him like Patton. Yeah. Yeah. When he needed courage, he summoned the will to lie. Great. So RoboCops coming. Oh, okay. This is a corporate strike against the people exercising

their power over you to shut down the economy, to shut down the infrastructure and to drive you into total hysterical fear and submission. And if you pass the test and submit properly, then you are never going to get out of the handcuffs. This is the new world order. This is the technocracy. This is robot drones everywhere.

Barking orders at you. Now becoming autonomous. We're wanting to be police controlling them. It'll be the ruling technocrats with their robot armies surveilling and controlling. Remember the plot of this movie. With lethal and non-lethal weapons. Honestly, that sounds like a libertarian fate.

Yeah, I know. To dominate you. This is the complete rollout with digital tattoos out of the scan, microchips, total tracking, absolute domination, absolute total control. Because after all, we can't allow any deaths. We have to get rid of the swimming pools that are more than three feet deep.

We have to get rid of diving boards. We have to get rid of dodgeball and chase at the school. Someone might hit their knee. And now they're not even allowed to talk at many recesses or shake hands. And we're all being trained to be these jellyfish and stay in our homes and watch the TV screens. And the robots will tend the fields.

And the robots will bring us the food. And the robots will enforce it like THX 1138, the actual globalist plan. So that George Lucas movie is the real globalist plan. That was the plan. Great. Yep. So Alex isn't basing this just on movies, though.

It does seem like he's basing it just on movies. Turns out also British Royals, maybe even other European countries, the kings and princes, have run the mouths. Oh, no. Well, Queen Elizabeth II's husband, the former SS officer before World War II, his cousin, the Count of Bilderberg group, Prince Bernhard, both shot their mouths off in interviews.

We can pull them up. About how they want to depopulate the planet with a bio weapon. They're in a good place to do it. Prince Albert of Monaco. When you guys reprint this for me, it printed blank. Thank you. Prince Albert of Monaco.

It's just an empty view of paper. Test positive for coronavirus. Palace announces. So does Grace Kelly's son. You know, back a few weeks ago when they said Tom Hanks had it on that weekend, I went live on Sunday and I said, I think this is either made up or it's PR overshadowed Trump's emergency announcement.

Yes, you did fake news that ABC news ran. Kings of Fignage and I think this is fake too. Okay. All right. Okay. All right. There's no evidence that Tom Hanks faked having coronavirus. I'm pretty sure he faked.

He was just discharged from the hospital and went to self isolation back on the 17th. It's fun that Alex is digging his heels in on this one though and basically saying that all people he doesn't like who test positive or faking it is. Is Idris Elba faking it? I don't know. He hasn't commented.

Okay. I want to know also what good does having the Prince of Monaco fake a coronavirus diagnosis to a hundred percent of Alex's audience can't find Monaco on a map and probably didn't even know it existed five minutes ago. Seems like it would be a weird play on the globalists part. I think that one's fake too. I just love the confidence of just like I'm going to go with

fake on this one Bob. Sure. So Queen Elizabeth's husband is Prince Philip and he was never an SS officer. Philip was 18 in 1939 when the war began. So I have no idea how he could have been an SS officer prior to World War II SS officer whenever he was 14. Makes sense.

He was the first SS officer Dan Prince Bernhard on the other hand may have been a member of a Nazi group in college. That was claimed in a book but I have a hard time finding concrete confirmation of it but it's possible. I don't need a reason to hate royalty. No. Prince Philip didn't run his mouth about wanting to depopulate the world with a bio weapon.

Alex is just lying about a quote from the forward to a 1987 book called If I Were an Animal. This was a book where a hundred or so celebrities answered the question of what animal they would like to be. Prince Philip said quote I just wonder what it would like to be reincarnated in an animal whose species had been so reduced in numbers that it was at the danger of extinction. What would be its feelings toward the human species whose population

explosion had denied it somewhere to exist? I must confess that I am tempted to ask for reincarnation as a particularly deadly virus. That's a little different than running his mouth about wanting to depopulate the world with a bio weapon but when you're Alex Jones you're not a big fan of details. I would also like a horse please. Thank you very much and I want ice cream and.

I don't know what quotes Alex is talking about with Prince Bernhard but I'm just guessing it's a reference to him funding creation of the World Wildlife Fund. Also I don't think Bernhard and Philip are cousins and Bernhard's been dead for 16 years so who cares whatever right. So Alex gets back to the world. I kind of just have this feel that wouldn't most people even it Alex fans like listen to this and just go man shut up.

We'll we'll get back to you in better times but this is dumb. No because they don't think it's dumb. I know but this is dumb. It's very bad. Yeah it's very dumb. Yeah. And if you listen like why why doesn't anyone consider like everything he talks about is a movie.

Yeah. The globalist plan is actually THX 113. Yeah. Now this next clip he cites two movies. French face finds if they leave home I'm in coronavirus lockdown as you're it prepares to close external borders. Wait I thought you said they were going to go to jail now they're just going to find what is it.

Well lying before you know that. Why are you being like this. So when you go see V for Vendetta and the young news girl is getting home five minutes after dark and the thugs come around her. She said I'm sorry I got stuck on the train. They said you're going to have to pay for this with your body and then V of course takes them out.

But you want to live like that like plenty Montana says. Wow. That's a great face. You want to spy on every corner. Alex can't deal with reality except through fiction. Yeah. That's why he has embraced so fully this fictional world view and imaginary enemies.

I was expecting Clockwork Orange to pop in. I was I was thinking we would get some droogs going on. But I honestly I got out of left field there. Got out of left field. Tony Montana. Tony Montana. So he has these all these movies that are real and he talks here about THX 113 being reality.

And he veers into how basically science is demons telling people things. That does sound right. And of course the next thing will be go underground so the virus can't get you. And that's the whole. Become mold people. Idea of THX 1138 that George Lucas made his first film about

with Robert DeVall. A lot of other amazing actors. Brave New World. And then what the scientists know as we're talking about the time what they wanted to build. And a scientific elite takes humanity underground to protect them from a bio threat. And generations later we were ruled over by robots and a

technotronic elite. The technocrats. And the band technotronic. That's the plan. It's always been the plan since 1856. What happened then? Sir Francis Galton. Oh.

Of course. Had a hallucination. Going golf. History books. So did Darwin his cousin. Charles Darwin. They were part of a secret government breeding. They ate shit.

Wedgewoods. The Huxleys. The Darwin's. Some other families. All right. The Blair's were involved a little bit. That's George Arwell later. Linda Blair.

And they were breeding the smartest people together in a eugenics experiment. But most of them became mentally ill or crazy. Of course. But then they started having hallucinations. And they were told by aliens how to build all this. Wow. History books.

And what? The double helix and biometrics and everything they were supposed to build. And then they set about with the scientific royal academy. Sure. To build this. And then Eisenhower 100 years later.

105 years later. 106 years later. Officially. And warns you about the technotronic scientific elite controlling the military industrial complex was going to do all this. You see. I do see.

It all makes perfect sense. It all makes perfect sense. It's demons. Inspired. Alien demons. Yes. I am. That I did not know that was mainline history.

Did they change mainline history when I wasn't. Must have. Is this a Mandela effect? Yeah. Turns out it was the Darwin's and the Orwell was. They they bred humans and aliens and that's mainline history. A bit of that stuff we covered in the endgame documentary.

There's some of those claims and you can go back and hear that stuff you want to there. But this is the sort of stuff that I'm just not even going to really engage with all too much because it's just like alright Alex enjoy. Yeah. Science is made by demons. If you think that all science came about because demons

contacted hallucinating writers in the 19th century and that all makes perfect sense. Yeah. You and I are just going to be done. I'm not going to bother. Francis Galton and Charles Darwin do share a grandfather though and they you know, Galton was a eugenicist. So I mean there's some kernels of reality behind stuff you're

saying but like you know in 2015 Ben Carson told a crowd at a creationist conference that Darwin's ideas were encouraged by Satan. Yeah. You know what you need to realize is like this is all like laughable and stuff but this is pretty standard like extreme Christian creationist talking points. Oh I know.

Yeah. So I'm aware. That's all Alex is doing here. There's a there's a tornado in your junkyard Dan. So Alex talks a little bit more about these demons that are inspiring scientists. You know you're sitting there and listening about machine elves when you're six seven years old at the dinner table and

now the government's got a project talking to the aliens and you know. Was that what I was listening to when I was talking about running a secret project in San Francisco. So that's what this is. They've the aliens are working with the globalists to kill everybody. OK.

Yeah. Alien if you want to tell me that Alex Jones is right. Yes. About things right. You now must explain to me that he is right about aliens working with the globalists to kill humanity. Yeah. OK.

Good luck. All right. Here we go. Here we go. New York Times just recently published that story saying that the Navy and the Pentagon all know about aliens going on. Right. So that's proof that aliens are real.

Step one. Aliens are real. Step two. Aliens are communicating with the globalists. The globalists are also. I have to prove they're real before we can even go anywhere. You have to prove a lot of the. Oh boy.

I don't think I can do this. I think I can do this. So I mean the way that the globalists talk to these demons obviously they take the hallucinations. GMT. Yeah. So is Joe Rogan a globalist. Yeah.

Oh shit. I don't know. He Alex isn't clear on what he thinks about. He says he's Rogan at Darwin. He says the Rogan's inducted into something. I don't fucking know who cares. Anyway, DMT don't take it. I want to.

I would not take the DMT. Believe me. Because if you're not deceived and I think they can rope you in. They're going to try to absolutely go watch. This is a. They. People don't let you in This was a pretty brief but in fact we didn't do it but some people would lie when the show said

it really hurt Ruby was I when the guy goes in the other dimension for a second. And they get him for a minute. He comes back. Crazy. That's that. Let me tell you. They don't just put that in Hollywood movies because they

just they just thought this up. Okay. Yes they do. That's how imaginations work. Oh. That guy's trying to pull up gcontuny online even if it's like that's what it's like. And let me tell you it is a trip.

You're going somewhere. So don't take it. Then he plays a long clip of Bucca Rubanzai. So we got Robocop and Bucca Rubanzai here man. Are we going on? HX 113 and Viva Vendetta and Roni Montana. I know but what's the name of the what's the name of Robocop again?

He was the star in both Robocop and in Bucca Rubanzai. Weller. Yeah. Peter Weller. Yeah. Yeah. I love to watch Peter Weller movies now. Also eagle-eared listeners will remember that back in that

Ask Me Anything episode that me and Robert Evans recorded Alex got one of his questions was are you a fan of Bucca Rubanzai? And he said no. Bullshit. And I wanted to play that clip but he's so fucked up that it's really depressing to listen to. I don't want to play it again. Oh that's sad.

Yeah. But yeah. Alex said he wasn't a fan of Bucca Rubanzai. That lying motherfucker. Right. Great movie. Yeah. So Alex in this next clip I think he's admitting defeat.

This is it. This is martial law. There will be. We're showing all to the countries and we better do it or our president's bad. And then the American people go we want martial law. And then you're going to get it for 18 months and never come out.

And you're going to get a big fat depression but don't worry you're going to learn how to need the government now. And all the big box stores can stay open. You can. Economic takeover. And drones flying around already to tell you what to do. Hope everybody enjoys. We tried to stop it.

He has no real suggestions for what should be done alternatively to the measures that are being suggested by states and like even if like you know California it's it's an extreme measure to like quarantine people tell people to stay in their houses. Yeah. Shouldn't Alex be fine with it. It's a state. No.

It's the governor. No. OK. Martial law. So Alex takes calls and this first caller that he gets wants to promote end game. The documentary. That's a surprise.

And heavy quotes documentary. Yeah. What is the end game dot com? What is the end game dot com? I think you pointed this out. The end game is a road buddy. Website are still up. What is the end game dot com?

It is still up actually. Yep. Yes put in what is the end game dot com. So that thing we put up 14 years ago that's still up. Wow. Yeah. And Amazon banned the sale of it. But the Amazon banned the sale a few months ago.

They said it was a racist movie because it's anti head learn. I'm not kidding. It's anti eugenics and global extermination. So you're not allowed to see it. Amazon just took end game off prime presumably because no one knew it was there to begin with. And when Avengers end game came out a bunch of people accidentally watched Alex's bullshit and complain.

I just went over to Amazon dot com. You can buy yourself a nice DVD copy of end game for six bucks. So it's clearly not bad. Yeah. It's it's there. But everybody's taking it down. And we need to. I don't think that's a copy of the film I guess ourselves.

Have we ever posted in game yet on mandor video. Because they're taking it down everywhere. They don't want you to have any of you seen in game. Have any of you. Your call. So they're taking it down everywhere. If you search for end game Alex Jones on YouTube you'll find multiple channels that have the film posted one posted 10 years

ago another six years ago. There isn't a big rash people taking end game down. It was just Amazon Prime. It was probably due to customer complaints. It's a bullshit man. That would be such a bummer if you just wanted to watch Avengers end game and then is like Rhodes Rhodes are coming to kill us all Rhodes.

I did see one Amazon comment that was like I was trying to watch Avengers. I can see a lot of people like having that happen. But most of them probably just like oh that's weird. I'll find one next one. Some people are going to call Amazon and be like what the fuck is this. I wonder if some people are going to watch the whole thing.

That would be hilarious. I can't imagine. Get to the end of it and be like I have been red-pilled. Iron Man wasn't in this at all. Yeah. He's going to show up. I heard he died. I heard he died at the end.

Did he die before this movie? I think that Hulk is going to show up. Yeah. I think that is going to take down the narrator kind of looks like Hulk. It's got a thick neck. Chris Evans was great in the end game of the documentary. So this next caller says something that is probably a

counter to the goals of public health. And Alex does not push back on him at all. Another point. I think this whole spread has of Corona has really blossomed since the test kits have been put out. And I think some of the test kits might actually have, some sort of virus in there or something toxic, deadly. You should really share that information with people.

I think that might be why a lot of people are getting hit harder than others. What? Because they are getting tested? That could be nanotech. Nanotech. Everything's lining up right now. And those are just a few theories.

It all lines up, it all gets beta tested, it all gets ready, and then boom, it hits you worldwide at once. You can't let people say shit like that with no evidence, with no backing. You know what? I think the test actually is giving people the virus. That is great. You know, because what this is going to do is going to,

you know, it has Alex's tacit stamp of approval because he just moves on to the next topic instead of saying, sir, that's an irresponsible thing to suggest. So the audience listening to this will internalize a message of I better not go get tested. If I have some sort of a symptom, like this is fucking crazy. The test will kill you.

The test itself will give you the virus is maybe the most damaging thing that anybody could possibly say. It's super irresponsible. That's insane. Yep. That is, that is, then it's just like everybody's trying to kill you, dude. Stay inside.

Yeah, they are, because it's the globalists. They are trying to kill you. Of course. Right there. It's a total economic takeover with U.S. corporations that are really globalist ally with China using this to shut us down. And if Trump says it's bull, they'll show the thousands that

die every week or so and hype it up that it's his fault. So again, it's the weakness of the average American, the cowardice, the loving to get into a pity party, the wanting to be a victim, the wanting to get a welfare check, wanting to win the lottery. It's not all Americans, but it's the overall weakness of the average person that has green lit this situation. This fucking dude is talking about weak Americans wanting a

pity party and playing the victim. He got a DUI a couple of weeks back and claimed that it's mockingbird CIA that there are articles about it. Go fuck yourself. Yeah, I'm going to call that projection. Yeah. God damn. Just embarrassing.

That's just embarrassing levels of lack of awareness. Fuck you. So Alex as a guest that comes up now, it's Tim Reems and this guy. I guess he's ex military and he was formerly employed by Blackwater probably as good a time as any to remember that Alex in 2009 believe the Blackwater were a group of criminal mercenaries. They were.

This is one of our. This is one of the bigger turnarounds in Alex's career. The hating Blackwater to employing them as his security and having former Blackwater on his gas. Love him. Tim apparently was also a contestant on a reality show called American Tarzan. That sounds good.

This guy. He was along with Rob do and he recently went down to the border to see if it's really closed. I have no interest in that segment. It's all just pure xenophobia. Yeah, that sounds right. Alex tries to prove to Tim that this virus is manmade. Not that Tim disagrees, but he just uses him as a like sort of

sounding board to prove. So here's he just uses two pieces of information that really nailed down that this is manmade. Indian scientist discovers coronavirus engineer with HIV like insertions. Then it's got all the actual genes and protein signatures cut into it where they know it was gene edited. Okay.

It's it's like, I know a woman's had a breast job. You see the scars. I mean, it's like ridiculous. Okay. You could ask her. That's just the self-retracted Indian study that Alex is embellishing on. Here's the next one.

Lab made coronavirus triggers debate. This is the scientist journal five years ago saying why was Obama giving a weaponized virus to the chikoms and it's almost the same virus minus the HIV slice that they cut into it. Alex is making shit up. If he was forced to actually read that article on air, he would have to admit that it has nothing to do with the debate has nothing to do with Obama selling a fucking virus to China.

That is unacceptable. Yeah. Those are the pieces of information that he's able to pull out when he's trying to demonstrate that the virus is manmade, which tells me he has no evidence of that at all. He is full of shit. This is really disheartening. It is.

But it gets more disheartening. Oh, of course. In this last clip from March 19th, and that is Alex promoting tomorrow's show. We've got Ted Nugent's wife on tomorrow to really break her silence about what she thinks is going on. Break her silence? Overtly political other than the second amendment.

She's a really smart lady. She's a freedom fighter? She's ready to, you know, in her words, her exact words was be bold. All right. Okay. All right. Ted Nugent's wife is finally going to break her silence dance on

the virus. The world has been clamoring to know what Ted Nugent's wife thinks about all this. Every morning I walk outside and into the sky ice cream. Lord, tell me what does Ted Nugent's wife think? And we will learn. So we get to the 20th and Alex has taken on a very blasé tone about the potential consequences of this virus.

He's stuck in this balancing act. He knows this is going to kill the economy. He knows they're trying to remove it from office. He knows that they're hyping this up bigger than it is. Yeah, it's going to probably kill tens of thousands of people. Still, we're in Asia, 330 plus million. So just that's so minimizing of a very terrible potential outcome. Yeah.

That's pretty fucked up, especially considering you remember the last time they amped up a story like that or Alex like I just keep thinking about the migrant caravan over and over and over again. That's them being like to be a oh they they're amping. This is hysteria. This is insane. How dare they would never make this kind of things like you guys

went apeshit over a bunch of people who didn't even fucking Jade Helm. Yeah, exactly. Like you guys are insane if you're talking about other people engineering hysteria. Yeah. I mean, certainly I'm more concerned with the fact that he seems to think that tens of thousands of deaths is like no big deal.

I don't care, but that's kind of what he was saying on the last episode. I mean, yeah, but this is more over more explicit. That's true. Makes it more upsetting. Yeah, that is that is a good point. So this is a globalist takeover. They're trying to teach you to work from home.

Sure. And all that. This is a globalist. Do you have any tips? This is teaching you to work from home, teaching you that you've got to be tracked by a cell phone to go outside. We talked about China a month ago, tracking people with their cell phones before they can leave their houses, making them download a

government app. Well, now we broke on Monday, drugreport.com picked it up that MIT and Bill and Melinda Gates have a plan to make you wear a bracelet that changes colors and a digital tattoo that you take under the skin that shows you've been inoculated and that they'll track you by your cell phone. So there's really no resource on this bill. Gates stuff other than an article and info wars, whose only source

is an anonymous quote cybersecurity white hat government contractor. Suffice it to say that means literally nothing to me and I reject it. Now he's a cyber security white hat government contractor. That means he knows what Bill and Melinda Gates or it's not a real person. Okay, well, there's a lieutenant colonel.

So the stuff about the invisible ink tattoo for vaccination records isn't related to the coronavirus outbreak. That was a research project that was taking place at MIT previous to all this and it did receive some funding for Bill Gates, but that doesn't really prove any of the conclusions Alex is jumping to. This isn't something that's even ready for use. An article in Futurism from December 2019 describes it as

quote proof of concept and that quote in human cadaver skin models, the patterns outlasted five years of simulated sun exposure. I would assume that if the goal is maintaining some kind of vaccination record, then that's not nearly good enough to achieve that out. No. This may be a ways off from being viable and it's not

approved for use. Also, it's not Bill Gates that wants to use cell phones to track people. According to reporting in the Washington Post from the 19th quote in the United States, the White House has been in negotiation with major tech companies including Google and Facebook about potentially using aggregated and anonymized location data created by smartphone use.

The Washington Post reported on Tuesday, but those efforts have been kept largely from the public. Yeah. That sounds like something that you would want to keep from the public. You know that mass scale surveillance program that you definitely haven't already run for God. I hate these people.

That's something Trump is doing. Right. Alex could play all these games he wants where Trump's employees and administration officials who do things that they're not supposed to do according to Alex or secret deep state malls. But at a certain point, he's just got to face the music that his hero is the villain of his career.

Yeah. He fucking loves him. Yep. Alex gets to talk more about these bracelets and tattoos. Asia deploys innovative, if invasive tech to curb virus. And what's it saying? Cell phones that track you bracelets, digital tattoos.

Yeah, who knows? So Alex is making up the digital tattoos part of that article about Asian use of innovative tech. This is an article from the Japan Times, not Yahoo News. And it's about how China, South Korea, Taiwan and Singapore are testing out approaches to medical tracking that might be a little bit invasive. The article is about an app that people can download on their

smartphone, which is connected to a bracelet. This is pretty extreme stuff, but from the article, it only references those bracelets being used in the case of people who are subject to compulsory quarantine because they had returned from overseas. That's not to say it's great, but it's not quite as horrendous as Alex is making it out to be. They're not kicking down doors and slamming bracelets on people.

Not according to this article. Yeah. That's not something that we can prove using this article. Gotcha. You know, it's bracelets that make sure people aren't breaching the quarantine. Yeah. They are required.

Yeah. It's a it's a low jack. Yeah. And again, he's making up the part about the digital tattoos. That's not in this article at all. They just love the mark of the beef. Sure. Gotta throw that.

Can't get enough of that. Yeah. So Alex gets really into Gavin Newsom, California governor in this in this episode on the 20th and he's talking about how Gavin Newsom did this press conference where he said that there's martial law. It's in place. Right.

And it's like he's trying to be smooth about it. So you go along with it and then you're dead. Right. Right. So Gavin Newsom is our Bill Maher of this episode. I guess. Yeah. And Alex has a gross kidnapping fantasy.

Great. He plays out about Gavin. That's awesome. An American psycho Gavin Newsom is going to strut around. We come back. I'm going to play five minutes of his press conference where he gets into the martial law. Oh, no, no, no.

He says the reporter says, don't we need total martial law? And he goes, my sweetie, they're socializing. They're accepting and enforcing on themselves. Let's not get too hasty. Looks so evil. He goes, we'll get to that very soon because it is martial law. That doesn't make sense. When you're a kidnapper, let's use the microcosm example and you

try to pick up the 16 year old girl like your Ted Bundy. You tell her, oh, I have a non-threatening yellow Volkswagen. Hey, let's go eat dinner. Let's go drink some beer together. Get in the car with me. Pulls the gun out, puts her head and he says, I'm going to blow your head off unless you put these handcuffs on. It'll be okay.

You put them on. See Newsom's just like, put the handcuffs on. This is not the music I want for this. I'm going to take you to a nice place and let you out of these. Let me lead you down. Let's put this gag on. Down these stairs, right into this basement, shows that door and he goes, I'm going to torture you over three days.

Jesus. Suck your soul out. Get ready for me to torture the hell out of you. Newsom's like, let's get the handcuffs on. So the first point, I think this should be probably obvious. Alex is lying about what Governor Newsom said in the press conference. He was saying that martial law is not necessary at this point

because people were recognizing there was a public need to act and people were stepping up. We'll play the clip that Alex plays. It's the next clip. So that's all bullshit. But I wanted to talk about Alex's kidnapping metaphor. He loves telling that little story. Like he legitimately does that bit all the time.

Yeah. He talks about a kidnapper threatening to kill you unless you put on handcuffs. And if you put on the handcuffs, you're dead. It's a fine metaphor and all, but I have a different one that might be more appropriate for Alex. I would suggest that this is more like taking your dog to the vet. Your dog is a stupid asshole that doesn't understand medicine,

but it still suffers from medical issues. And you know what? That dog's medical issues are going to affect other people and other dogs. Whatever, whether it's because you ignore a dog's health and then a problem gets worse to the point where it requires an expensive surgery or because the dog has a condition that can transmit to another dog at the park,

that dog has to be taken care of. And it's too fucking stupid to do it on its own. In case you don't get it, Alex is the dog. He'll fight and bark and yell all the way to the vet, maybe even try to bite you, but it's for his own good and everyone else's own good. My dogs, Jake and Fanny are not mean, Dan, or not stupid. How dare you?

They call me and say, we got to go to the vet, baby. I've seen your dog shit on the wood floor. That's true. That dog's stupid. It's true. I'm not saying that Alex should be put down or forced into a FEMA camp for his own good or anything like that. But when the state is enacting certain measures that are

necessary to stop the spread of a very dangerous pandemic, he's the dog in the backseat on the way to a vet. You just need to ignore his stupid meaningless barking. That's all this is. So anyway, that's a better metaphor. That's a pretty good one. That's an apt metaphor. That one's for free.

I don't think he'll be using that one. So here is that clip of Gavin Newsom that Alex says that he's trying to put the handcuffs on you. The governor of Illinois in Ohio ordered the closure. Yeah, we could do that easily. Why not exercise your... Because it's a nuance, a distinction we get caught up in because to date we haven't needed to do that.

We've set out guidance, those guidance. That guidance has been met in every circumstance. And as I said in the past, if you want to establish a framework of martial law, which is ultimate authority and enforcement, we have the capacity to do that. But we are not at this moment feeling that is a necessity. And to the extent that people do not socialize and support this very directive guidance,

I would be surprised and we have all the confidence it will be. That's not him saying put on the handcuffs. That's saying at this point people are going along with the recommendations. There is no need for us to enforce things necessarily. So great. That's pretty much the complete opposite of what Alex is trying to paint it as.

Yep. That's why... He's gaslighting. If you are the globalists, why wouldn't you take this opportunity to declare martial law when even the reporter is like, do you think you should declare martial law? Suggesting that it is on the table.

He's saying that other states are taking slightly more drastic and enforced measures than... The guy's like, we're not declaring martial law. So far we haven't needed to. People are going along with things. That doesn't make sense. It's wild to me. The way that Alex portrays something

is the exact opposite of what it is. So Alex, in this March 20th episode, I think that he has discovered the cure for coronavirus. Okay. And then we heard a few weeks ago that Chloroquine, an inexpensive malaria drug, is having incredible effects on people if it's caught before it gets too late,

even if you're old. And I've got a bunch of articles and studies and reports here on that. But anybody can pull up Chloroquine, C-H-L-O-R-A-Q-U-I-N. Oh. Didn't even spell it right? Oh, man.

Chloroquine works, right? French study finds the anti-malaria drug Chloroquine may be highly effective against coronavirus. That was days ago, but again, it came out weeks ago. Well, guess what Chloroquine does according to the literature? It pushes zinc to the cells. And then when there's zinc in there, the viruses can't replicate in the cells.

Isn't that interesting? It's like nano-silver. Oh, Jesus Christ. No, you insane person. Calis-Other Homeland Security Congressional Reports coats the cell so that viruses can't get in. And it also fries. Paging the New York Attorney General.

It's just too stupid to live. He's too, he can't control himself. Can't do it. This dude is nuts. So there was a bit of a story that went around over the weekend that I regret to inform you that the study also predates. On September, on Saturday,

Trump retweeted a tweet that cited a French study claiming to show that hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin were effective in treating COVID-19. This led to some scientists chiming in and pointing out that the study itself was very poorly constructed and that the groups that were tested were very small to the point of being inconclusive. And then it got worse.

Jared Holt pointed out that the account that Trump retweeted was actually a guy who used to go by the name Mike Tokes, who had a bit of a habit of hanging out with neo-Nazis like baked Alaska. He was even covered in an article in The Guardian about the figures who were putting together that alt-right rally in Portland back in 2017. Can't imagine why he would be in Trump's orbit.

And then it got worse. A number of doctors pointed out that advising people to take hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin was dangerous and it could actually result in heart failure. Great. And then it got worse. Oh, my God, we're all going to... And then it got worse.

After Trump's tweet, Bloomberg reported on how in Nigeria there were, quote, two cases of chloroquine poisoning after United States President Donald Trump praised the anti-malaria drug as a treatment for the novel coronavirus. Oh, my God. I was worried that Alex's talk about the drug predated Trump's, but it turns out Trump was talking shit about chloroquine

in his White House briefing on Thursday when he lied about it being FDA-approved to treat coronavirus. So that's probably what Alex was going off of. Anyway, shit's all the way reckless now. This is unreal. I have absolutely no words to describe the level of despair I feel seeing this particular little chapter play out and knowing that it's just a blip on the larger radar.

The president lied about the FDA approving a medication for a pandemic, then retweeted a guy named Mike Tokes who hangs out with Nazis, touting an inconclusive study that led to a spike in demand for that medication and at least two overdoses in Nigeria. And it's not that big a story. It's fucked up. I just...

I just can't... Like... Can you imagine if Obama did anything like that? He would be arrested. Federal buildings would be blowing up. Exactly. He would be arrested for murder. Wow. So, Alex, you could tell from that clip

he really only brought up the chloroquine in order to sell his own shit, and so he gets into that further. They don't spray the iodine that much even more, even though it kills stuff, too. Or the alcohol. That's not even hardly used. Stuff everybody uses a hand sanitizer. They are using nano silver

from American biotech labs, the one that we use. But the toothpaste is sold out, folks, and I'm not advertising it as something that is a treatment or a defense. You're doing it again. My teeth went... What are you doing?

You can't stop. You're in the middle of saying I'm not selling this... I mean, yeah, the active ingredient cures coronavirus, but it's just toothpaste that I'm selling for whitening purposes. Right, right, right. Of course, the ingredients inside of it cure... Oh, my God, what an idiot.

Well, I think he's too defensive about people calling him out for that, and so, like, he can't show ass by being like, sorry, look, I shouldn't have done that. So he ends up doing it more, and maybe the New York Attorney General's office will take notice and find him.

I hope so. So it's not only the silver. Alex now has the chloroquine angle. He's like, how can I make money off that? Well, guess what has a whole bunch of zinc in it? The real red pill and the real red pill plus.

The real red pill plus is natural, healthy, so Alex only brought up the chloroquine thing because he read the word zinc in some headline about it and realized, hey, I sell zinc. Let's pretend that's related. So he sells this supplement, the real red pill that has zinc in it, but that means nothing. A lot of foods have zinc in them.

Go eat some beef or baked beans. No, but the red pill will actually push the zinc inside of yourselves. Okay, well, it's theorized, but it's not proven or even a consensus opinion that chloroquine acts as an ionosphere, which allows extra zinc to enter the cells. It doesn't have zinc itself,

so for Alex's promotion here to make sense, you would really be needing to try to sell his audience to the real red pill and also say that they should take chloroquine. That's really irresponsible stuff and you could just see the levels and layers of profiteering Alex is trying to engage in. That's really disgraceful. As soon

as something becomes relevant, he tries to sell it. If you go to his website, there's a big banner that says, add a boost of zinc to your daily routine, advertising the real red pill. He knows no bottom to the scam. He will make whatever money he can by jeopardizing his audience as well being because he doesn't

give a single shit and listen to this. This is just a fucking con man. But my point is real red pill and real red pill plus zinc is sold out everywhere. So is vitamin C. It's sold out everywhere. I have reporters out right now showing multiple stores who report on

it. They're just it's empty. Folks are getting it. Well, guess what we've got in stock and I decided I haven't made this announcement yet. I just decided to do not even though this is going to sell out in just a few weeks. Right now it's only 20% off as we speak.

It's 50% off. The opposite of what the globalists do. I don't raise prices in a crisis. I lower them. It's 20% off right now. I said I wouldn't do 50% off in the new year. I haven't done it yet. But I'm doing it now. 50% off on real red pill. You can find zinc on Amazon.

Pretty is a bunch of them. So it's disgusting as that is. Like he should be tarred and feathered. There's to be some sort of old timey like group social shaming for this behavior because that is insane. Maybe just

everyone boo him all the time. Everyone you see Alex just boo everybody gets one tomato that they have to throw at Alex Jones. So look as bad as that is that's terrible and let's leave that behind us because I mean it's what you expect. Right.

Well I need to know somebody is breaking their silence on something. Well that's not yet. Because Alex actually has a pretty good position on the insider trading that's happening in Congress. It's bad. Yes. Good. And now we learn Republican and Democrats including Diane Feinstein

which is a Chinese spy runner up office. What got a classified briefing on coronavirus and how dire it was same intelligence agency saying Trump's a Russian agent.

Trump still hadn't gotten rid of all the globalist and they dumped their stock and the media strangely enough is calling for the Republicans to resign but not the Democrats. I say every

damn one of them. Yes I agree. Every Republican or Democrat classified briefing and you go dump your stock it's called insider trading. Yeah. Stick a fork in them. They're done but see oh don't you know those few Republicans

that didn't vote for impeachment. Don't you know now when there's going to be a new impeachment coming up. Oh you know it's coming for not handling the coronavirus right. Give it four months when the death's peaking hundreds of thousands on the high end 50,000 on low end. That's my prediction

from the real numbers that oh they've got their votes now because the FBI is still controlled by the globalist at the top. Sure. And they all defer prosecution for insider trading but you're going to now vote against President Trump.

So you can see how all this is coming together. Alex lost me in the middle there. So it turns out that the Republicans caught for insider trading will not be asked to resign. Instead they'll be blackmailed into impeaching Trump. Yes.

Gotcha. And it only takes three Republicans to successfully remove Is this the Federal Reserve? Alex is iffy on numbers. Is this the Federal Reserve, Dan? So on the one hand I agree with and applaud Alex for calling for all these people in Congress to be treated equally and resign

if this is actually a case of insider trading which it appears to be. I don't think he'd have that position if one of them was Jim Jordan but well. But whatever that's that's a counterfactual I can't really prove that that's true but I bet he would be what you're going to do. However Alex doesn't seem to know who the

Republican ones are and Diane Feinstein is the only name he even brings up. He also doesn't even seem to know that it's all Republicans and then Diane Feinstein she was the only Democrat that's been named but he's trying to make it seem like it's equal it's all it's like three Republicans and Diane Feinstein also Diane Feinstein look

the Republicans look they're cheaters and they're awful but Diane Feinstein also has a Chinese spy Democrats are even worse right. Also I don't think I can get down to that black male doing peach Trump narrative. I don't think that one's going to work. This show is so goddamn boring now because every

conspiracy has to lead to the end point of taking out Trump. It feels like a sitcom that's like in season 10 where the writing is just lazy. Yeah. Come on. Can't you just be interesting. Can't be weird. Can't be. Can't have a weird conspiracy. Everything is just like a yes secretly

trying to take out Trump. Trump is doing a bad job. No. He sucks wrong. He's terrible wrong. He's the worst. He's actually literally killing people. No. Trump is doing a great job and and your show is boring. Trump is doing a great job. All of the

all of the stars aligned to just not do this shit anymore. Trump is doing a great job. No he's not. Yeah. Alex talks about it in this next clip. That can't be real. Anthony Fauci and all the same ones that run the show. They're the good guys and Trump gets up and tries to talk the virus down.

Fauci saddles up, sidles up and says it's all over. Run for the hills. You're all dead. You say that. Trump's always surrounded by the deep state. This is so fucking funny. Alex is so mad at Anthony Fauci because he's not playing along with Trump's

stupid games. Yeah. And he's trying to stay focused on responding like an adult to the crisis that's in front of him. And it's going great. He's behaving like a responsible grownup. And that's really pissing off Alex because he wants to have fun and yell conspiracies. But because I listened to Alex's show, I remember that Alex only learned who Fauci

was back on February 8th when Alex misread a headline and decided to report that Anthony Fauci was coming out at Trump's behest and saying that they believed the virus was man made. This of course was a load of bullshit, but it led to Alex saying this, which is really funny now. Now let's look at the facts.

The president through his medical spokesperson, who's very respected, made a lot of calls about Fauci in the last few months or knew who he was and they say he's very respected, a quote legend. So on February 8th, Alex had looked into Fauci and made some calls and he's the best.

Super respected. Legend. But now he's the deep state. He's the deep state legend. Nothing is real. He's a nightmare, Dan. Nothing is real. And now once you accept that nothing is real and makes you more able to accept that we are about to listen to Ted Nugent's wife.

Why not? Why not? The world couldn't get any more weird. Why wouldn't I have to listen to Ted Nugent's wife talk? Why not? And you've talked about the coronavirus and what's going on and I started to do some research in the past month or so and

I started to find out what's really going on and it scared the crap out of me. So Ms. Nugent has done some research. She has a Chrome browser than I assume. Well, I mean like, you know you would maybe assume

that his wife isn't maybe the best source of research about the coronavirus. I always understood her to be a thorough researcher. Alex has something you need to know. Okay. Well, I respect you as a researcher. I learned a lot from you on the medical field. You know, really inside of me. You're really a respected expert on that

from your deep research. What do you really think this virus is? Where do you think it's coming from? What do you think is going to happen? I don't know if Shemaine Nugent is a respected name in the field of research or anything like that. I think she's mostly relevant because she's Ted's wife. I went to her website and apparently

she's into Zumba and some years back she got sick because toxic mold in her walls which encouraged her to get into alternative medicine. Anthony Fauci basically is the same resume. Yeah. I mean, you could listen to the Deep State or you could listen to the Zumba instructor. One big red flag on her website

for me was her educational record. She has a bachelor's in radio, TV and film which checks out because she met Ted when she was working at a Detroit radio station. She also claims to have a master's in metaphysics which is more of a problem. A master's in metaphysics. Yeah. Okay. I noticed that she doesn't

say where either of these degrees are from because probably, you know, metaphysics degrees from some scammy diploma bill. Yeah. Real accredited universities do not offer degrees in metaphysics. When someone has a degree in metaphysics on the resume, particularly when their other educational background

isn't in some other solid form of philosophy or maybe theology, it's a major sign that they have a fake degree. Metaphysics is a real branch of philosophy, but it's not something universities give degrees in. It's the same thing with, you know, most branches of philosophy. Like if I had pursued a philosophy

major instead of a minor in college, I would have a bachelor's degree in philosophy, not in logic. It would include you could say you have an emphasis in logic or something like that, but you wouldn't have a degree in logic. No. She's written three books. One is called

Kill it and Grill it, which is a wild game cookbook she wrote with Ted. A very respected researcher, Dan. Another is called Married to a Rockstar, which is about being married to Ted. What better research is there for a book like that than actually marrying a rockstar? The third is called Four Minutes a Day,

Rock and Roll Your Way to Happy. See? It seems to be also still cashing in on being married to a famous rock and roll. She's doing too good research. She's also currently making a documentary called Killer House, which is about toxic mold. Also in 2013, she was arrested for having a 38 caliber handgun

in her carry-on bag when she tried to board a plane in Dallas. According to Gawker, the gun was loaded, but Shemaine claimed that she had no idea it was in her bag. Nothing says responsible gun ownership, then not knowing where your loaded gun is. That's the games that Ted

and Shemaine like to play with each other. Maybe perhaps international travel. I'm just going to sneak a little loaded weapon into your luggage. I can find no evidence that she should be treated as an expert in anything, nor should her research into the coronavirus be taken seriously at all, but she is married to Alex's

weird pervert hero, Ted Nugent, so she's basically the head of the CDC. That's great. I just, I just, we live in strange times, Dan. We live in strange times. So, you know, there's some theories going around that the virus is

a cover for Trump to mop up the deep state. Why would those theories be going around? Alex suggests that, and Shemaine agrees. So I see them trying to use the virus against Trump, saying it's his fault, but at the same time it's also an opportunity for Trump

to mop up the deep state. So I think both sides are trying to use it right now. What do you think? Yeah, I totally agree, but I think Trump is one step ahead of him. This is a preordained evolution.

This is unlike anything we've ever experienced before, to biblical proportions. Yeah, there we go. It's all had to unravel the way that it's unraveled. What's really weird is there's a lot of talk and vague insinuations of this being sort of biblical and, you know, that

why aren't they bringing up the locusts? Like, they never bring up the locusts. The locusts are too real. They're trying to pitch this like this is revelation. Right, right, like why not bring up the fact that there's also locusts because that's too

real. I every time I read that news, I swear to God I've read that same news like 30 times and every time I immediately forget it because I'm like no, I just refuse to believe that there's locusts. I refuse to believe there's a plague of locusts right now, Dan.

There's a plague of locusts right now. You would think that it fits right in with their rhetoric. It does. It's conspicuous in its absence. But that's because it's almost too on the nose. Maybe so Alex talking about the mopping up the deep state thing. Yes, that's a Q

and on thing. Yeah, that is definitely one of the narratives that's put up by Q and on. Guess what? Shemaine likes Q and on course. I know what you're trying to get me to say. I do believe that there is an orchestrated group of

individuals that some people have called Q who have been dropping breadcrumbs so to speak. For those of us and the information is available online, I have told my people to do the research for themselves. Stop calling it research Q and on

and to your Googling weird articles do diligence for themselves. Let's talk about it. We'll be back. So Alex rushes out to break and you know they don't come back to this come back to Q stuff. No. But Shemaine does try to

get Alex to do a breathing exercise, which is kind of funny. Alex, if you don't mind I would like to do something here with you live that you've probably never done before on your show. Remove a chip from a homeless man. Do you want to try it? Is it called breathing?

Okay. I want you to take a deep breath and when you breathe in silently count to four. Ready? Do it with me. Ready? You're not doing it. I counted to four. Good. Good. All right.

You see how I guessed what you were going to say? Great mind. No, no, no. You know what? You know what? Alex, here's the thing. We don't really know for sure what's going to unravel and when and we're all getting breadcrumbs and bits of information.

Breadcrumbs again. More QAnon language. Yep. So anyway, she's super into QAnon. Their interview is pointless. Yeah. And Alex, you can tell kind of like, isn't really all that interesting because if you ask too many questions, it's going to get into her promoting Q and he has a stated position of hating

Q, which he said earlier in the episode or on the day before and pretty consistently. So he doesn't want to yell and make fun of Ted Nugent's wife. He needs to keep Ted Nugent his friend. So he keeps having like, oh, I hear maybe Ted's going to drop it. Jesus. So then Ted shows

up. Of course he does. They talk about how great it is to live in the woods. Who cares? Okay. Anyway, Alex ends this interview. They get done. It's like an hour of talking. That can't be the Nugent. That can't be real. Yeah. Why aren't they on Fox News right now, Dan?

I want to I want to hear. I want the world to know what the Nuge thinks. They might be. That's actually, oh God, you're right. Anyway, Alex gets into weird headspace after the interview and he somehow comes about. He starts talking about the movie rollerball. Sure. Sure.

Sure. And so now rollerball is real. I love it. So globalism was about being able to choke countries off because everybody was interdependent. Hell, they made an incredible movie back in the seventies with James Cahn. Rollerblade. Rollerblade.

And I remember being like eight years old watching it on TV. In like the early eighties and my dad going, read this is a big new Brzezinski book when you get old enough son this movie is about what they plan to set up. So you got a bad dad. You got a bad dad.

You got to get rid of that dad. Get a new one. Get a new one. Call someone right now. Hey, eight year old son. Rollerball is real. Uh oh. Hey, eight year old son. I got a Brzezinski book for you to read. Yeah, but this isn't a stray thought. Alex

really legitimately seems to think that in the same way THX 113 is real. So is rollerball. Of course. But if you go back to rollerball James Cahn is this world famous superstar top rollerballer. He won't quit. He's supposed to get defeated in the end. He's supposed to be torn down.

The corporates even take his wife. They have that power like a like a lord of old prim and octu to take your wife or your daughter from you. And he goes to try to find files about how the corporations took over and there's this one big mainframe liquid computer. And he goes to the computer

and they've gotten rid of all the books. They've gotten rid of everything. But for a while everything was available on this worldwide computer system called the internet to the movie. But once it all went on to one AI computer

it began to erase everything. Ooh. That sounds like a good plot of a movie. He goes yes he categorizes things and then he loses them. And you see once everything's on the cloud notice everything's getting lost now. Yes.

Back this up with audio. Back it up. I want to play this for people because they're telling you everything. Here it is playing. Oh God. So many movies. He's playing a clip from rollerball. Yes. And he's asking them to back it up with audio just in case the cloud loses it.

No. No. No. Back it up like rewind it. Oh okay. Okay. I thought he was like no. No. I genuinely thought he was like we need a physical copy of this. That's a fair reading of you know the context. What are you saying? I mean this is like what maybe the eighth yeah movie that he's

cited as real. I'm writing down movie titles that I think might come up later. I got I got Logan's run going on there does meant oh no is it Logan's run. I can't remember I think blade runner. He played runner. Okay. That's a good one. Yeah. Support is a replicant.

That's adjacent to Philip K. Dick or short stories probably is going to be real. I wrote down running man but I don't think he would reference that one. He has many times. Has he. Yeah. Okay. I thought he would just hate Arnold Schwartz. No. No. Not running man. I'm thinking of total recall. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Total recall is a good one. He's talked about running running man is probably a better one. Oh hell yeah. I can't wait. I fucking can't wait for like him to run out of Philip K. Dick related movies. He's just like you know what. Hey the adjustment bureau.

That's how far how far do you think we're going to go. Yeah. This is me. You see someone with a hat. All right. Look out now. Okay. Hear me out. People with hats go through doors. I know people didn't like the movie bright starring Will Smith but hear me out.

It's going to happen. Okay. It's going to happen. Philip K. Dick thing. No. Well you wrote the game. Yeah. It's supposed to be Philip K. Dick stuff. So Alex wants to take some calls towards the end of this 20th episode and he puts out the call for a specific sort of

caller. I'm going to go to your calls quickly because I know you're busy. He's not. You have specific information from the National Guard North Comm Space Command Central Command Army Special Operations

Threat Fusion Centers State Police on what you've been prepped and ready for. Also Ted Nugent's wife. And what you've been told. I want you to call him. We'll talk about it. So Alex puts out that call for callers from high intel areas because he wants

to hear what they're hearing. That's great but I highly doubt anyone in those areas is likely to call in and even less likely to disseminate private information on Alex's dumb show. What this is. It's not actually a plea for intelligence people in the audience to call in in function. This is Alex signaling

to the audience that if they call in and claim to be intelligence, he's going to let him. He won't question them and is willing to take it face value. All the information the audience might present as a peering official. Basically what he's doing is establishing an improv game. He's inviting people to LARP with him. Yes. Yeah.

That is it. Yeah. It's the first line in an improv. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, he doesn't get calls for a while because he's not getting any calls. Well, that might be or maybe he's just a bad at it. Yeah. We've seen plenty of evidence for it. That's true. So he starts rambling

more lies about the virus. If you're just an average person and under 70 and aren't sick, you're not going to have a big problem. But if you're exposed to the different variants of it and there's at least two different strains. One is super deadly compared to the other but is only on surfaces. The other is not very dangerous and

is airborne. Still, you got to worry about the medical workers and the police, the military and the rest of it. But so on our last episode, we heard Alex claiming that there were 10 strains of the virus. And now there's just two that he's talking about. Seems weird. Maybe a 10 numbers or something he made up because he was rambling and talking shit.

Speaking of talking shit, this stuff he's saying about two strains is not something that is a scientific consensus. There is preliminary research that suggests that there's what's called the S strain, which is the ancestral strain, the original one that jumped from human to human, which at some point mutated

into the L strain, which appears to be better adapted to jump from human to human. When it's called the more aggressive strain, this is a reference to its ability to transmit from person to person, not because it causes a more severe illness. The Guardian reported on March 11th that quote, it is not yet clear whether

the two strains cause different severity of disease. Alex has heard a few words like more aggressive and two strains and he's just creating a story out of that that fits his needs. Whether or not studies do eventually show that there are in fact two distinct strains of the virus and that

one causes a more severe illness, it doesn't matter. Right now, Alex is just making shit up. It feels a little bit like our language itself is at fault for so much disinformation. Just it like when you say, oh, it's aggressive

for epidemiologists, that means one thing. And for people who aren't epidemiologists, that seems to mean a completely different thing to them. They'll interpret it in different ways. Perfect example is every single time Alex uses a headline. Yeah, exactly. That article from 2015 about the gain of function

study on a coronavirus causing debate is a perfectly accurate headline. Right. But it also, when Alex lies about it, it perfectly fits his propaganda narrative. Yeah, it's almost like they should have to make up complete random nonsense words

in order to describe something like instead of calling it a gain of function, it's a flip-flop. Like that's the only way that people won't confuse it for bullshit. I don't feel like it's the expert's responsibility to adapt their behavior to propaganda it shouldn't be. Well, fair enough.

Yeah. So Alex, I'm going to skip this next clip because it's just him selling his zinc, which he's pushing a bit now. Yeah, that's of course. Yeah, but Alex is kind of mad that the media is saying there's going to be a lot of deaths from this. He just said there was going to be

a lot of deaths. You might believe that. Yes. Because I see you played it. It didn't get lost in the cloud. The AI didn't steal that clip. Not rollerball. You still, you still played it. Rollerball. If this changes. A thousand people died. It's going to be the end of the world with a hysteria. Hell, one person's sick in a town. Everyone

runs in fear and some estimates are in the hundreds of thousands. The media and press conferences says three million. There's no evidence of that. The number keeps going down and down. So the media isn't saying there's going to be three million deaths in the United States from Corona virus. They're covering a March 16th report from Imperial College

that estimated that if literally nothing was done, it could result in 2.2 million deaths in the United States and 510,000 in the United Kingdom. The report prefaces this prediction by saying quote in the unlikely absence of any control measures or spontaneous changes in individual behavior.

So that's kind of the setup. It's the unlikely nothing is done. Alex and Mike Adams have misused Imperial College estimates in the past. They were talking about 50,000 new cases a day in China. So they should be totally on board for this except now he's trying to

downplay the virus or something. So it's kind of just the media is being hysterical. But unfortunately, I listen to Alex's show. The Pentagon believes with the numbers they have that they could have up to three million dead people

in the next six months here in the United States from the coronavirus. Well, if you infect half of America, which is pretty typical for a flu, 2% comes out to roughly 3.3 million dead Americans. I mean, I might have an Army Lieutenant Colonel in my house

once a year or something just on some other business that I was doing and taking care of. This guy retired about a year ago. He's there. I had to leave to work. He's in there having coffee with my wife. She calls me and says, hey, I don't want to travel anymore. He's saying the Pentagon thinks they're going to die.

They're going to kill you and your family. And most of us are already dead. We'll all be getting cancer soon. We'll all be sterile soon. It's over. In my assessment, the bulk of the human race will not survive this. Now, there can be lone survivors or small groups of survivors.

And I think that that's the strategy we have to get to. It's CPAs, man. You just love that one. There will only be lone survivors. I decided that my new signature bit is CPAs, man. No, anytime I have a supercut of something, I got to throw in something completely unrelated

just for fun. So don't call the media hysterical for talking about this three million thing when that was your bread and butter. Dick, that's this is abuse. Yeah, I feel abused. This show is fucking nothing is real. No, of course,

not even from day to day from hour to hour. Important thing though, Jordan. Oh, okay. Listen, listen, listen. If we lost a million of the Civil War back when our population was, you know, 20% of what it is now, if we lost a million and don't panic about it, it's sad

and you know, it's not good, but if you have a great depression, you can pull up the university studies. Seven million pull up the university studies. Seven million starved death from malnutrition, great depression. Seven million people in the 10 year Great Depression

or 11 year Great Depression ended up starving if they estimate. So if the whole society collapses that is not good and the food's going to run out. So again, it's like where you get startled and then fall down the stairs and break your neck

because your wife says, hey, honey, you fall down the stairs and break your neck or have a heart attack and I see that's what is unfolding and it's just the getting into it and the hysteria and the fear. This is so wild. So anyway, he brings back up the seven million

died of starvation during the and he has the the board operators try to find a citation for him and look what happens. Yeah, there it is famine killed seven million people in the USA and that's Provda dot Russia.

In the old days you couldn't believe Provda, but I don't believe it because it's in mainstream media, but I read that. I think it was University of Chicago. Sure. But there you go. No, you didn't. No, you didn't read it for the University of Chicago study. Oh, fucking

Provda or maybe not just some other source of Boris Boris of claims. You know, you know how people know about how many people who starve to death in Russia? You know how we know about it? It's a very famous

thing that we know, right? Because it's historically and it's something that Alex has yelled about a bunch. Right. Now, don't you think that if a similar number of people had starved to death here, we wouldn't be just finding out about it from Alex Jones? Pretty sure that would be a

thing that we are taught as a man because the globalists. Oh, OK, never mind rollerball. I take it back. So Alex goes to some calls and before he gets taken back for me, he gets a caller that wants to give him a advertising strategy and how to

how to help you commit a crime. Alex, I'd like to help you commit a crime. I'd like to help you market your brain in this time of difficulty. Thanks so much for taking my call real quick. I want to tell all your viewers to do what I've done and that's I took $10. I got a yard

sign and a can of spray paint and some pencils. I have COVID 19 is 1984 on one sign and info wars.com on the other. All your viewers would got to spread the message. I'll hold you over so you have more time, but I've been thinking about having callers.

What's a t-shirt or a bumper sticker or just something we ask everybody. I need to steal idea to describe it. And yes, I don't have it is COVID 19 equals 1984. You just nailed it. You're going to get people killed. Oh my God. So the other another caller calls in later and he's like you were

close on that one, but it should be COVID 1984. Good punch up, buddy. Good punch up. You are. The answer to 1984 is COVID 1984. I look I I hate the caller who did punch up a little

less because at least that was a good suggestion. Yeah. If we're in the realm where we're talking about that sign, that is a better side. That is a better side. That is a better side. So this caller because he's given Alex a marketing opportunity, he's got a job. Well, he at

least gets to say something stupid. Oh, he gets to hang on the line until he gets to give a completely baseless theory that makes no sense. Cool. Got one more major point. Do you remember the Las Vegas shooting back in October 17? I guess I do.

Okay. If you remember Trump banned bump stocks after that that went into effect in March of 19 and then we started learning the CDC started hiring in November of 19 off for all this quarantine officers. So it's all connected Alice

because they didn't want you to be able to get bump stocks to prepare for the Marshall wall. Well, I know this this country is in a fight for its very future. The president surrounded by people that wanted them in his policies. Ah, yes. Bump stocks, the crucial

element of surviving this coming tyranny. Well, I know this. Yeah. Alex, sir, I shut up. I would love for there just to become like a moment where Alex has a break and he's just like, listen, that's stupid.

We're trying to create panic and we're trying to, you know, I love all this fear. Great. I love conspiracies. I would love anything that gives a different narrative about the Las Vegas shooting, but that's dumb. That is dumb. You are. Come on, man. Yeah, you want

him to have that happy or the Billy Madison moment of just like if you serve wasted everybody's time and make God have mercy on your soul, that kind of thing. Yeah, or even like I've listened to a number of episodes of Bill Cooper's show where he talks to collars and he's like, you have no proof for that.

Like he will just push back on people. I want Alex. I know that he'd never do it because it would hurt his ability to keep people in the fold and sell them stupid shit. Yeah, but like I would love it if you just tee off on some of these assholes because they're so dumb. I'm not. I'm not

like I don't hate them because they're dumb. No, these things that they're saying, some of them are like legitimately publicly dangerous. Yeah, and some of them are just like, oh, this would be so good like a set up just spike the ball spike the ball. Anyway, bump stocks. Yeah, that's what the

government's after. So this guy obviously not a high level intelligence source. It doesn't seem like, but Alex does have one of them or did have one on the phone, but maybe they got cold feet. All right, we had a federal officer almost been told, but they got cold feet and hung up. You're not giving out any secret information

or we've already in a form of martial law by the corporations, by the Democrats in their areas. So the driving point of Alex's coverage in these couple of days is definitely that martial law is already here and it's the Democrats and the globalists doing it. On the one hand, this is a mess for Alex because he's always been pretty clear that when

martial law is happening, it's time to start a revolutionary war. But leaving that aside, there's another really serious problem with what Alex Alex is suggesting, namely that, you know, he's suggesting that left is responsible for making these martial law moves. Perhaps Alex would like to try and explain some new reporting. Politico

reported on Saturday that Trump's Department of Justice run by his good buddy Bill Barr had quote, quietly asked Congress for the ability to ask chief judges to detain people indefinitely without trial during emergencies. It's really staggering the level of control that DOJ was requesting

from that political article. Quote, in one of the documents, the department proposed that Congress grant the Attorney General power to ask the chief judge of any district court to pause court proceedings whenever the district court is fully or partially closed by virtue of any natural disaster,

civil disobedience, or other emergency situation. Also from that article, quote, not only would it be a violation of that, but it says affecting pre-arrest said Norman L. Reimar, the executive director of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers.

So that means you would be arrested and never brought before a judge until they decide that the emergency or the civil disobedience is over. I find it absolutely terrifying, especially in a time of emergency we should be very careful about granting new powers to the government. Alex Jones, the champion of

civil liberties, will not likely cover this story. He wants Trump to become a dictator. He's been very clear about it. Alex doesn't care about civil liberties for their own sake. They were always a means to an end for him. And it was an issue that was central to the popularity of people like Ron Paul, so he had to push it really hard. It's always been

a Trojan horse and circumstances like this are really just dropping the masks. If Alex doesn't come out in immediately completely reverse course on Trump after his Department of Justice is asking for the power to detain people indefinitely without trial, he should fucking throw in the towel on

everything he's ever pretended to stand for because that shit is over. But we'll see. I mean, that happened on Saturday and this is Friday's episode. But it's comical. The idea that he's trying to say that the globalists on the left is doing all this stuff and Trump is a heroic

force fighting against it when there's all of these instances of Trump doing the exact things that he normally would be screaming about. Yep. Yep. He's the villain of Alex's story. Absolutely. It is amazing to me exactly how much

Trump is doing what they said Obama was doing and lost their minds over it. I still don't think that even if Trump does all of the negative things he may do that he automatically becomes king and all the senators become dukes. That might be true. That might be true.

That might be true. Dan, you don't know you haven't read the Constitution. It's too big. I don't believe it's impossible to read the whole thing. That's science. So Alex talks here about how he's played that clip of Gavin Newsom a ton on the show and he hasn't clinics in California during lockdown. The governor has basically put you

under martial law. 40 million people are told to leave their homes and less for essential things. And the reporters will allow you to do martial law and he goes it's a subtlety, honey. We are under martial law. He did not say three times earlier. Yeah. I mean, he's played the clip, but it doesn't say what he's

saying there. He's misrepresenting it. You know, it's turning Newsom into a misogynist somehow as well. Very dishy. Yeah. So Mike Adams comes on and Mike Adams, I think, actually has a pretty interesting position at this point. I don't agree

with almost anything he's saying, but he does believe that these quarantine things are necessary. Interesting. So he is at least at the point of like he seems to have a push and pull going that I I'm fine with

but I don't want from him. Okay. The thing is we now have to prepare to fight for our civil liberties as we endure the lockdown and isolation that is medically necessary or epidemiologically necessary. That's what I've been saying and people try to say we're disagreeing. I don't. That is not what you've

been saying. Not what he's been saying. So Mike is saying that this lockdown and these sorts of things are necessary. Otherwise we're going to be in a really, really bad situation with the virus, which I appreciate him at least having that position. Now he's also saying that we need to protect our civil liberties in the course of that

and my response to that would be go talk to Trump. No shit. But at the same time, that is a relevant conversation. Yeah. The tension and the maintaining civil liberties while at the same time doing this necessary thing. Right. I will

openly accept that conversation and the difficulties in finding a solution or conclusion that we can all feel comfortable with from anybody but anyone who's ever been on info wars. Yes, exactly. They do not have the credibility for me to even respect that conversation

for one fucking second from them and I am repulsed absolutely by that. But I do appreciate that Mike is saying that this is necessary because in the world of info wars assholes that is monumental.

So I was going to say the one person that I really don't want to hear from on this right now more so than Alex is Mike Adams and somehow he's the one who has well no I mean I'm not going to play a lot of the other no no I mean I mean this particular thing he says yeah this is

a our last clip today from the March 20th episode like being equally wrong. Okay Alex my confession and my error in all of this is I have vastly understated the the criticality the extent of this problem

it's over for humanity there will only be lone survivors that's understated that's a that's a shot in a chaser I believe is what that's called understated yeah all right okay buddy so we come to the end of this and I think that Alex is I think that the

you know it's not as painful as I expected it to be you know it is in some ways there's a lot of this stuff that is like well this is pretty dangerous and if people if people listen to this as opposed to experts they run the risk of stymying the efforts of the country

getting through this successfully but there's also a lot of stupid shit along the way and you know I can always enjoy finding that hey Alex said that this seven million people starved in the Great Depression oh that comes from Pravda trying to justify

I mean I used to not be able to trust Pravda but I I read about it before Pravda from the University of right so you have stuff like that and that can keep my interest and I appreciate little things like that being there and then at the same time you know you just got this

overwhelming sense of like okay the bottom line is the reason that you think that the globalist released this virus is to because they wanted to destroy the economy to embarrass Trump and your only defense you can ever give for that is fucking Bill Maher that's fun to think

about and the fact that Alex thinks that every single goddamn movie is real he really thinks they're real especially rollerball rollerball how about death race do you think desperate death what does he what does Alex think about the remake I want to what about death race

with Jason Statham we got it they there are hard hitting questions that we need what does he think about crank I that's a really good question what do you think about Jason Statham's entire career we may never know but we'll be back

I hope everyone out there is doing all right with the circumstances and I hope you all are I don't know I don't know I don't want to but I hope you're taking care of yourselves and each other I appreciate

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