Knowledge Fight - #428: May 1, 2020

Episode Date: May 4, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan check in to see how Alex Jones decided to celebrate May Day. As it turns out, he was trying pretty hard to cheer on a literal war with China, desperately asking people to be his successor, and pretending that his outburst about eating his neighbors was actually genius satire.

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge I'm a huge fan and I love your world knowledge fight knowledge fight I love you everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. We are Dan Jordan. Yeah quick question. Uh-huh. What's your bright spot this this day? I don't like that a lot of these bright spots end up being food related. Yeah, but we what do you what else do we have to cling to these days? Here's how bad I am at cooking. Okay and various assorted. Did

you make that lasagna? I didn't yet, but I do have the ingredients. Okay, I did get them. I just been meaning to do that, but I realized something else that I can cook and this is this is very sad. I just realized that you can cook chicken in the oven. Oh yeah, totally. You can bake it all the time. I did not know. Oh yeah, you can bake it. I think you considered broasting it. My friend. You can do it all. Yeah, there's a lot of options. I for the longest time have thought like well if you're gonna cook chicken, you got to cook it in a pan and I'm not good at that. I fuck it up every time and so I'm very resistant to

cooking chicken breasts, right? Which but I like them. I like chicken quite a bit. Everybody loves it. Sure. Yeah, I just realized the other day that I could take a chicken breast, you know, marinate it up, toss it in the oven, come out to the point where last night I was having trouble sleeping because I was planning to go get it and celebrate this new realization out of that fucking chicken breast. I am 36 years old. I don't know how to live, but that's a bright spot because you realize that there are these things and you know what it's also a realization that there's so much more that I probably feel as

outside of my abilities that isn't. Yeah, no, it feels it feels like that's about food, but that's not about food. Dan, anybody can eat a chicken. You could just go get a chicken. That is about discovery. Sure. That is about finding out a new facet of your life. So after this episode, I am going to go get the Jewel Osco. I think that sounds like a great idea and live my dreams. Get old chicken. Let's see. Get a P Hen. I can't do that. All right. That's beyond my buddy. Okay, fine. What about you? I discovered or I rediscovered the red mask rendition of David tells skank for skanks for the memories,

which I have told people about for a long time. It's skanks for the memories of David tells classic comedy album classic album and some DJ 15, 20 years ago underlaid all these tracks to it. So there's just a bunch of funk tracks underneath David tells jokes. Weird like there's Eric Abadu songs. It's a copyright mess. I've never heard of or heard this thing. No one has, but I rediscovered it. It was. I remember getting it because it was back in the Napster days. Whenever you would find a torrent randomly and be like, yeah, I'll fucking steal this shit. I don't know. Yeah. And a lot of times things are

mislabeled. Do you think some song by a band is by another band? Yeah, totally. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, and yeah, I'm glad to report that it is real. Okay. I googled it for a long time. I can only find references to it on a last FM page written in different languages. Okay. There's the only place I could find it. Well, that's proof that it's real is real, but you didn't find it again. I have it. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. I listened to it. It's fantastic. I don't need to hear it. I kind of thought it was in a dream. Well, I'm glad that you weren't making that up this whole time. I know, but I'll be honest. I don't want

to listen to it. It's not a offense. It's well one. The album, a lot of it does not age well. Oh, I'm positive with that. That's another reason I don't want to listen to it. Yeah. Yeah. It does not age well. It's like something that I thought was so perfectly funny when I was twelve. Yeah, probably now looking back, you'd be like, oh Jesus. Oh, no, totally horrifyingly offensive at the same time. There's just some timing things that you the way he's like the way he just says now point me East is such a fun delivery. It's like you're a genius. Very very sharp joke teller. Brilliant. Even if some of the material

is pretty problematic, he's better now. So Jordan today we're going to be going over May 1st 2020. I love it. 2020. That was a Friday of last week and there's a lot of sundry issues to go over on this episode. Certainly I look like a fucking idiot because on Friday's episode of our show, I brought up how thrilled I was that no one was covering Alex's rant about eating his neighbors. We were doing great. It felt so good. We were doing like Icarus. I flew too close to the sun and because you said that that it happened. It might have been. It is your fault. At least spiritually on some level. I'm to

blame for this and so I have egg on my face because by the time that episode got released, everyone had heard of Alex's outburst and we're giving him all the publicity that he wanted. Yeah. Luckily nobody mentioned us in the in the whole night. I'm not. I'm not frustrated about that at all. No, I'm not either. Yes, you are. I mean, I mean in a sense of like I'm glad I don't have to deal with all of that shit. Well, look, you know, I don't think that we broke the story or anything like that. Like I think that I know that I got some tweets from people who are like, you know, you guys need to credit

knowledge fight for breaking the story. I don't. I don't believe that we deserve any kind of particular credit for like Alex said this shit and we talked about it. Yeah, it could have been anybody. Yeah, it's not like I don't feel any kind of territorialness to the story or anything, but I do feel like there's a lot of problems with the way people are engaging with it. And we'll get to that over the course of this episode because it does sort of come up. Yeah, of course it does. But before we embark on this here, May 1st adventure should take a little moment to say thank you some folks

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that helps people who are in need, we would appreciate that as well. Yes, we would appreciate either very much. So Jordan, like I said today, May 1st, Friday, May Day, May Day, a lot of labor day that were absolutely covered all the time. Yeah, they were so much coverage of the protests. Alex is in a particular sort of mood, which is I find boring in many ways, but does say some really stupid shit. And here's not a context drop from today's show because I ran into some occultist, but I was when I was younger and never really joined it. Yeah, I was just around some of it because they were trying to recruit me

for the sex. So apparently, apparently Alex was recruited into Satanism for the sex. Of course. Yeah, why not? He's sold a couple of those. I went to a Satanist party's twice. I believe he's gone twice. Yes, fool me twice. Yeah, exactly. I like the idea that the way Alex is presenting it is like they recruited me for sex, which is to say they wanted me. Yeah, of course. What they wanted from me is my good fucking. Of course, Satanists roving around just being like, oh, I bet that guy fucks good. Right? Let's pick them up in our van. I feel like they have a lot of options. Satanists who throw massive

orgies. They don't need Alex. No, you can't do. You can't throw energy without an Alex. That's a rule. I believe that in the past he said that they were recruiting him because they had like psychic powers and knew that he was going to be important later. Oh, that's true. There wasn't a sex. There was that one. It was because he was crucial to the earth's future or some shit. Yeah, I believe I remember him saying that he was. He thought it was going to be a sex thing and then they sprung on him. Yeah, it was a Satan thing. Yeah, yeah, anyway is convoluted. Yeah, so we start here at the beginning of the

episode and Alex he starts off sort of contradicting his mood from a few days prior. The globalist encourage people not to have children, not just save the earth, but because when you have children, you tend to get closer to God and you think about your ancestors in the future that unlocks a lot of things in you. And I'm not criticizing those that don't have children, but I'm just simply saying I now look at my children and I feel absolutely crushed with commitment, just absolutely flattened. It's not a feeling of depression. It's not a feeling of anger. It's not a feeling of even sorrow. It is a feeling

of grief that we've let evil get this out of control and that it's absolutely even worse than we thought and that we screwed around, but that now we got to roll our sleeves up and just every cell in my body is commanding me commanding me to get up off my ass and to awaken the people just a few days ago. He was talking about how you can't wake people up. It's fucking over. We're done. Yeah, I think he's talking to himself. I don't think he's talking to me. This is the it's constantly fluctuating like he's the time for waking people up is over every cell in my body is screaming at me to wake up the people

pick a lane. Yeah, it's it's very frustrating. Yeah, so in this next clip Alex reveals that hey you know how maybe the Illuminati was the friends we made along the way that kind of trite bullshit. Sure. Sure. Sure. He wants to let you know the destination is the journey. Exactly. The journey to the New World Order is the destination for them and on the path to our species being phased out by these psychotics by the scientific dictatorship in the post human world is really the destination. The journey is the destination. There it is. World not more beautiful, not more open, not more free, not more classically

liberal, but one of trampled and being trampled upon one of having a bootstomp on the human face forever. Society gets uglier and stupider and and and I mean in Brave New World, they were forecasting this and by then the average person lived to 30 and it was all really like that. So the ruling class the sixties enjoy how they ruined humanity and dominated. It's a giant satanic ritual and you're now living in the takeoff. So I have a strong suspicion that Alex thinks that the journey to the New World Order is the destination because for him it is the end goal for Alex is show an entire

business model is to never get anywhere because getting somewhere means he has to change something. The New World Order can never be defeated because if they were then why listen to Alex anymore and they can't ever really win because then how do you justify the fact that you're still selling dumb pills while this evil dictator ship is in place. He needs that sweet spot of their impending arrival to be constant at all times because otherwise he's kind of useless. Yeah, he's like cheers, you know, you can do 30 seasons, but you're always going to be in that fucking bar.

Also that boot stomping on a human face thing. That's from 1984. Now Brave New World and while we're on the subject Brave New World was published in 1932. The life expectancy in the United States in 1932 was not 30 years. It was 61 for men and 63.5 for women. You have to go back to the 1800s to get to a period when life expectancy was in the 30s, but guess what? That doesn't mean that the average person lived to 30. That's a huge misconception about life expectancy statistics. That's the kind of thing you'd hear confidently being declared by a guy who just talks out of his ass all the time, someone like

Alex. What he's doing is he's mixing up life expectancy with life span. There are aspects of medical advancement and sanitation that have helped increase our life spans over the last hundreds of years. But generally speaking when you see these big swings in life expectancy, that's not a representation that most people died at 30 in the 1800s and it's 60 or so by 1932. This number is heavily weighted by child mortality. When you see these jumps, that's almost always indicative of a greater number of children not dying in infancy, not people who survive childhood living decades longer.

As reproductive health gets better, life expectancy goes up for this reason and because people who are pregnant are at a greater risk of death than someone who is not. As the number of people who die in childbirth goes down, who are generally younger, and the number of children who survive infancy goes down, countries see a rise in their life expectancy. Alex doesn't understand what this statistic captures. So he's up on this show pretending that most people died at 30 when Brave New World was written. It's all ludicrous. He just doesn't even understand the topics, the very basic topics that he's talking

about. Your your life expectancy is 30 because back then people had 15 kids in the hopes of keeping five. You know, it was that kind of like don't name it until it's 45 like that kind of level of everybody dies so young. Yeah, I was reading some articles about like, you know, like even ancient history, you know, like people lived not a long time. Yeah, not. Maybe on a on a small scale shorter than we do in the modern world. Well, I mean, Noah was a thousand or two. Well, there's Methuselah. Methuselah. Who's the guy who never died? Elisha was the one who never died. See, nobody ever died. Well,

there's I mean, I'm talking about like in the Roman world and stuff like there's a conception that we have that everyone died at 20 or whatever and that it's it's it's a twisting of what these statistics cover. Alex just doesn't know how to engage with statistics. He doesn't know how to engage with the idea that these models existed for what the coronavirus was looking like. And so he says stuff like this every model we have been given in the last four months by the United Nations, by the Royal College, by the Billable and the Gates Foundation has been

more than 100% wrong. They've been 200, 300, 400, 500, 600, 700, a thousand times off. They've been just something just 50, 60, 70 times higher in the death rate. And now we know it is confirmed that they are counting in Europe and the United States and in China. Every death that comes into those hospitals is counted as a COVID death. Alex was perfectly happy to misuse those same models that he's now decrying back when his

narrative was that it's over for humanity. There will only be lone survivors. Back then it made perfect sense to scare the audience about how there was going to be 3 million dead from the virus and he just pretended that those models were reflecting predictions as opposed to what would happen if no efforts like social distancing and business closures were made. Alex even pushed a model created by the Health Ranger Mike Adams and had to be corrected by Mike on air that his model was specifically about the unlikely scenario where no mitigation measures were taken. Alex is and has

been willfully misrepresenting what these statistical analyses are, even though he was all about them just a short time ago. He's a real piece of shit. It has the feel of somebody who's like you told me 2 million people were going to die. The only way you're going to be right is if 2 million people die. Anything else if less than that died, that's because you're an idiot. Not because you were like, let's do something to stop it. Not you're an idiot. You're a liar. You're a liar. Yeah. Like if the weather man could influence the weather, you know, like, oh, the weatherman. It's not fucking

sunny out. You son of a bitch. Well, Alex does believe that. That's actually true. Yeah. Also, I understand him saying that in Europe in the United States, they're calling all deaths COVID deaths. It's stupid and it's not confirmed. He's just making it up, but I understand him saying that extending that to China seems super weird considering that China's release numbers have shown a substantial drop off in deaths being reported as COVID deaths for at least the last month and a half. You would think that if the goal was to hyper inflate these numbers, you wouldn't see China who are supposed

to be the big bad guys and all this reporting very few COVID deaths right now, but Alex is saying even internally for his own conspiracy just doesn't make sense. See now they're under reporting their numbers to make it look like they're impervious to it. So when we thought it was a race specific bio weapon, they're going to be like, see it's not a race specific bio. I got to go. It's a no good. No, you got to hear me on. You're going to know. Don't leave the party's been great. I got my wife has left me. I got to leave. Yeah, I don't know. I don't. I don't care too much for whatever this

nonsense is that he's trying to pitch, but you know as I was listening to the show, I had a realization that really really hit home and that is that people need to take this a little bit more for what it is. What the what the show is. It's kind of at least in the most present day. It's kind of just becoming an intense religiously based incitement show. Yeah, yeah, that's kind of the entire tone of what this is. So even when he's talking about stuff that seems like, oh, this is just to be having a weird political belief. No, he thinks it's demons doing it. Yeah, people need to remember

that. Yeah, he's not selling dead now. We worked and stuff with the army early and he said they're they're they're just came a point. They're came a point when things are so evil and the things they've incrementally got you to do are so bad that you just can't do it anymore and you turn completely against it. And I asked him, I said, what was it? And he said, Children. And I said, what was it? He goes, you know what it was.

You know what it is. These people like to hurt children and everybody better grow up and understand that. I want to tell all the corrupt bureaucrats and all the corrupt agents something. There is a God and those of you that aid and bet these people are going to face God one day. Absolutely. You're going to face God. God is so real and you are going to pay. You understand that? You keep pretending you're God down here on this planet and you keep bullying and hurting children and for your God Satan. But I assure you

your new old order is going down. So I mean, that's the character of this show. Yeah, that's that's what this show is at its core is just a guy rambling about his extremist version of religion and accusing all enemies of being child abusing Satan worshipers. It's not it should be treated like that. I think I think that should be in every article about Alex Alex Jones who believes that everyone he doesn't like is under the control of an extradimensional alien demon who got stranded here when God kicked him out

of heaven or whatever. You know that needs to be a part of the thing because treating him like a political conspiracy theorist at this point is is absurd. Yeah, it's bananas. Yeah, if he's not selling food buckets because the collapse is coming. He's selling food buckets because an interdimensional space being is causing the collapse that's coming right. It's it's an interdimensional space being is going to cause so much more trouble so much more trouble. Yeah, you can wait four to six weeks because the interdimensional space being is also probably a decade behind his plans

and you don't know the dimensional space being wants you to stay inside because that collapses the economy and blah blah blah like everything comes back to like China is working for the internet or the interdimensional space beings. Yeah, all of it is this and they have rules where you have to agree to it. Otherwise they won't do it. Well obvious there's actually a development on that coming up at the end of the show. Of course, I was wondering if there would be there may be a twist in the rules. Of course, why not? But yeah, so I mean everything that the man and the

globalists are telling you to do like social distancing, the business closures, all this. They're really doing that at the behest of this international inter interdimensional space demon. Yep, and so that includes wearing masks, which explains why Alex keeps telling stories and fighting in fights with people in public. So remember when you're walking into say a buck, he's gas station like having a Derek McBrain the other day told me about it. And this woman comes up with her mask on he's not wearing one as the governor said it's not the law. He can't be

people do it. And she goes like she's all scared and jumps back like goes off running off her little power her little drama if she can join with the media and the Stockholm syndrome and make you do it. She's a hero and she's good and I've had that happen to me on the hiking bike trail. We're grown men. Well, I get up against the trees ago. And I just start going, what's your problem, man? You don't care about the hundred million people that are already starving to that day. Every Alshon's conspiracy really sandy hook. I go, okay, I guess all the kids, you know,

I'll tell you the kids are real that are dying. Who is in these mass shootings and in Africa? But see, they don't want to hear that, ladies and gentlemen. Got to pause there because Alex almost said, you know, what kids are really dying in response to someone bringing up Sandy because his brain is wired to deny it. Yeah, exactly. That is a tell right. Nobody's dying at Sandy. The people are starving and mass shootings. People are starving and I don't know. I can't legally, legally whoops. Alex might have showed some cards there, buddy. Oh, boy, because they're wearing their

you know, liberal outfits and sashaying around. It's all sick. By the way, they keep reminding me. I need to talk about products. We won't be around here. Yeah, you should get some info or T shirts and books and ball caps. Yes, and a mask and 5g kills is a pretty amazing shirt. It's great shirt. It's great shirt. Apparently masks aren't a big seller. Well, masks are a partisan issue now. Apparently which is I'm thrilled. I'm thrilled to see that this is the way that we've decided to to go to live in a in a world. Well, at least some people have

decided to experience things. It's a bummer. It's a real bummer. You know, it's a we're a blue state or a mask state and they're a red state or a no mask state and somehow that's the world. Great. So Alex, of course, gets to a plug there for his a cool cool 5g shirt and hey man, look, plugging is great, but there's something else that's better excuse back in stock 50% off and but really why I need your word of mouth. You need your word of mouth. You spread the word. You are Paul Revere. Get it done now. Take action now. Take action now. Take action now. When? So I know that everyone had fun

with jokes about Alex eating his neighbors, but ultimately that as you can hear from this clip before he was trending all over like he doesn't know about that when he's on air just giving exactly what he wants. He needs word of mouth desperately and he would have gladly paid everyone to do exactly what they did on May 1st on the day of this episode. He also posted a special video where he quote response to false claims. He ate his neighbors already twisting fuck off. Exactly. God damn it. The description of the video is quote Alex Jones responds while trending number one on Twitter about

eating his neighbors. Here is how that response begins. A modest proposal is hands down the most famous literary example in the world of satire. Now, a few days ago live, I was talking about the fact that the UN admits the World Health Program had that 135 million people are estimated to starve to death in the next year, not from COVID-19, but from the lockdown that COVID-19 has triggered a planetary depression is down here. We're already looking at 100 and something million going to die the next year. If it keeps going, it's going to be worse. There are a further 135 million people facing

crisis levels of hunger or worse. That means 135 million people on earth are marching toward the brink of starvation. An additional 130 million people could be pushed to the brink of starvation by the end of 2020. That's a total of 265 million people. Our analysis shows that 300,000 people could start to death every single day over a three month period. So I went on air and I said, Well, this is my own modest proposal. I said, Let's not eat the poor people like in Jonathan Swift's story eating poor Irish children that he proposed during a depression. Let's eat the rich. Let's eat the elite. So

that's how he's going to spin this. It's, it's, uh, it's spectacular. Oh man. I swear to God, if we did this, we did this, we said this, we did it. He's not supposed to be able to jump the general Lee over this fucking nightmare of a situation and somehow we got millions of dollars of free press out of this and he couldn't have if people had just ignored it. Cool. Yep. He would never be making this video where he tries to pretend that he's fucking Jonathan Swift with his bullshit about like what I suggested is we eat the elite. Yeah, no fuck yourself. You're the guy who's fighting for the fucking poor. You

price it right and the way he's able to fold this in with his exploitation of people in the developing world going through a hunger crisis. Like it's, it's all like really like it's exactly what he would want. It's, it's, uh, it's, it's perfect from his end. Yep. And he gets to argue that everybody is just taking a little clip of him and it's out of context. I don't literally mean kill them. I don't literally mean eat them. Eat the rich. Everyone knows that term as well. So instead, Twitter, Facebook, Google, all of them took a little 20 second, 30 second, one minute clips out of context to say that I was actually

saying I'm going to eat my neighbors and I'm a psychotic. Well, I mean, you did say this, my superpowers being honest. I've extrapolated this out and I won't have to for a few years. I got food and stuff, but I'm literally looking at my neighbors now and going, I ready to hang them up and gut them and skin them and chop them up. And you know what? I'm ready. My daughters aren't starving to death. I'll eat my neighbors. See my superpowers being honest. I'll eat your ass. I will. I'm combat model, optimal self-sufficiency, probably the leader. The point is, is if you thought about that yet, because I'm somebody that

thought I could fix this and I'm starting to think about having to eat my neighbors, you think I like sizing up my neighbor, how I'm going to haul him up by a chain and chop his ass up. I'll do it. My children aren't going hungry. That sounds to me like someone who's actually talking about eating people, but I mean, yeah, who knows. Yes. Swift used to put in a little couple of jokes here and there. You know, he was pretty clever. Yeah. Nice little turn of phrase going on there. Well, I mean, that is, that is an essential piece of it. You would think. So back to his response video. He's just basically

saying, man, I was just being swift course and clearly you watch the video. I'm not saying that, but it shows how they think you're so stupid that you won't get satire. Even though during that show, I said, this is an allegory of Jonathan Swift. He absolutely did not. And further, you think Christ would eat somebody? He would never do that. I will. I'm not going to watch my daughter starve to death. Now you could say that was a metaphysical hypothetical, but it's it's really not. And let's just get past the jokes here. Yeah, let's get past the jokes saying it's not a hypothetical just for the courts and

everything. I'm joking around here. I'm not going to eat anybody. Adding that little caveado for the courts. I'll eat one of these globalists. I'm a spit. Oh, I'm a performance artist like they say. Alex Jones is real. Everybody knows I'm as fake as they come. You're called straight ahead. He went out of his way on that during that rant to be like, I'm fucking serious, but also hey, I'm playing both sides of this in case this could get me in trouble. Yep. He's such a piece of shit. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's it's great. I'm really bummed because everybody ruined that clip for me too. I was I had so much fun with

it and then the internet saw it and they gave him all kinds of publicity and money and is like, fuck me. But now it's no fun that he's going to eat people. Yeah, I had so much fun. Yeah, we were so innocent a few days ago. There was a great time. So here's the last clip from his his response video, which ends, of course, with a long commercial naturally. But this is the last bit of his content. I'm gonna say it again. If Jonathan Swift, 290 years ago, really wanted to eat Irish children, then I'm with him. But wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, wait, hold on one sec. Let's do another take of this, Alex. What

are you saying? Listen to that again. I'm gonna say it again. If Jonathan Swift, 290 years ago, really wanted to eat Irish children, then I'm with him. But of course, he didn't really want to eat the children. So you're not with him. He was illustrating absurdity by being absurd. That's the definition of satire. But so you do want each other. They've taken out a context, which I knew they would do when I did it. And that's how we have these learning moments is people then see how they're deceiving and you go to band on video to see the whole 10 minute segment for yourself. So here is my modest proposal to not eat the children, but

actually eat the people that trigger the global depression. I'm Alex Jones, and this is the info war. The definition of satire is not pointing out absurdity by being absurd. Merriam-Webster defines it as quote a literary work holding up human vices and follies to ridicule or scorn. A second definition is quote trenchant wit irony or sarcasm used to expose and discredit vice or folly. This is going to end up being a very standard definition and that second part is honestly the part Alex seems to be missing satire is directed. It's targeted specifically toward a societal vice or folly, which is heightened and laid bare by the use of

irony, humor, or even even sometimes absurdity. A modest proposal is held up as an enduring piece of literary satire because it did what it did was use a grotesque and ironic suggestion to expose and mock the prevailing attitudes society had towards the poor. Swift used the idea of eating poor children as a way of highlighting how attempts to help the improvers had been stupid ideas themselves, and it was a problem to be taken seriously. Conversely, Alex was not talking about any greater societal folly or vice and his diatribe about eating his neighbors. He was not talking about this as a solution to worldwide

hunger like he seems to want to pretend now. He was not talking about it because his neighbors were rich and somehow they're the ones responsible for the worldwide depression he thinks we can avoid by going back to work prematurely. Alex was just talking about eating his neighbors because he imagined a scenario where his children needed food. It was that simple. It's not satire. What Alex did fails to be satire because it didn't have a larger meaning. It was just him yelling about how he was an alpha male who was willing to murder and eat people's whose children wouldn't starve. You can go listen to the whole

thing if you want and you will not find a larger meaning to it than that. It's not a methodical act of satire that wishes to convey a deeper truth. It was an idiot ranting about his post apocalyptic murder fantasies. But I do believe that Alex did predict that people would talk about it. It's amazing. It took three days for people to pick up on the story, but they did and Alex got exactly what he wanted. You can hear it in that clip there. He's saying that he knew people would take his words out of context and you go hear it on his own site. This is working essentially exactly how Alex would hope and ultimately

serves as nothing more than free press bonanza for him. And I don't know if there's any other way this could have played out. That's why I was so impressed on our Friday episode that people weren't covering the story. I thought it was a choice, but you know it was very much not a choice. Yeah, it turns out just no one knew about it. And once folks found out one of the sites ran a story about it before you know it, every other site had their own post about Alex eating his neighbors who's trending at the top of Twitter most of the day Friday and people were doing that. That thing where they put his rants over

music, which is just more free press. And you know, we saw how it worked out that we love our Somalis video, how much he embraced that himself. Too bad red masks rendition of skanks for the memories didn't go as viral. Sure. Yeah. And like I said, I just don't think there's any other way this could have gone. Alex knows that if he says completely fucked up things, there's a really good chance that people will not be able to resist the urge to make jokes about it and post articles on high profile websites about his comments. Everyone probably has good intentions that they think that what he's saying is

nuts and they want to mock him or think that the coverage will somehow hurt him, but they're unfortunately wrong. There's probably no way to deal with this. But Alex knows that he can essentially hack media attention with extreme outbursts. Then he can lie about his intentions and pretend he was doing some masterful satire. He gets all the free press exposure from being mocked by everybody. And then this dumb video he puts out where he pretends he's Jonathan Swift. He gives himself the best chance possible of convincing the most gullible people who come check out his site that maybe he was onto

something and the media lies about him. It's all a plus from his perspective. And there's really no way to deal with it, except by changing paradigms dramatically. I would suggest that no one should ever cover his outbursts because they're not newsworthy in any way. There's no way that would ever happen though. So long as his outbursts are interesting enough for media places to recognize their potential as clickbait. So I think we're all just kind of fucked and we're all going to be stuck in the middle of this trap where Alex knows how to get free press out of people with escalating

insane outbursts and people who are driven by clicks and traffic know that they can also profit off that. It's a symbiotic parasitic system. We just there's no way around and there's people who aren't even necessarily driven by the same profit motive who are driven by like the endorphins they get out of things being posted on Twitter. Yeah, you know, you have the exact same joke being make it made over and over and over again and people putting out memes that and you know whatever you can't stop that. No, yeah, it's all it's all fun. I don't know like there's a part of

me that wants it to be like if you are going to go after him do it through our lens just so there's some sort of distance between his publicity and and what he you know what I mean but I don't know. I mean maybe maybe that's a little self serving but I might be it might be a complete like lie. I tell myself just to make me feel important. I mean who knows. Yeah, it's entirely possible. I just think that there are people who are they are dealing with Alex one way but he's really the other. Yeah, you know, there is and it's impossible to convince people how how you should look

at this. Yeah, because out of very basic level. I'm a human. I completely understand that there's a guy who has a professional looking TV show yelling about how he's going to eat your ass very going to eat his neighbors. We left how can you not. It's very funny right and without a ton of awareness of what he is how he operates how he does these things in order to get a rise out of people that benefits him. I just I just don't know if there's any way to curb those impulses and people or even if people knew if they would do it. Yeah, I don't know. I say we're trapped. I say we get rid of Alex. So

nobody's allowed to put Alex Jones in a headline or in anything he just has to be called a white nationalist inter dimensional space being believer and that's that's what every in every single article and story and tweet it has that as his name. I don't think that helps him. No, maybe I think I think it might still because I was I was trying to kick around ideas of like what you could do. Yeah, and one of the things I thought was like maybe make the headline of the story Alex Jones pathetic attempt for attention. That would but I don't know if that would. I don't know if it would work, but it was

something that I, you know, I thought like if you make the lead of the story that this man is so sad. Yeah, treat him with disdain. Well, if you're going to give him the attention at least make it bad. Yeah, trying to get this attention. Yeah, I don't know if that would work, but it is just a thought clear how transparent he is. Yeah, transparent and sad, but I you know the Internet here is he is forced for good in the oh boy, but at the same time, like I don't know like I man said he was going to eat your ass down. Right. Very funny. I end at the same time. It's not like it was only an

attempt to get attention. Sure. He was fucking struggling on that episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like when he came back, he ended. He was crying about his kids and stuff like it. It's not like it was all a brilliant ruse to get attention. Yeah, it was a horrible ridiculous untethered outburst that he had that everyone turned into a brilliant PR move because of the way they engaged with his content. Yep. And like I said, I'm not shitting on anybody for what they did. I understand why anybody would respond to it the way they did. I just also think I mean he wins. Hey, so what are you going to

do? Yeah. Anyway, how do we keep losing Dan? Game's rigged. Whatever. So in this next clip, Alex talks, Alex talks about how Trump knows that his numbers are slipping. Right? Sure. There's one solution. Now let me make the big announcement here. We are at war with China. There we go. There it was. But China is only the global slave farm. Sure. That is used to leverage out the planet. We're shut down the regulations. They can do whatever they want. They're the new world order's economic and military muscle now, but before they were able to finish their takeover, we got Trump in and a pro America

faction and the government is battling to save the country right now. And we're battling right now. But big tech and the censorship that's going on is crippling the president and his belief that he can overpower that override that is wrong. And now reportedly, you know, he's been getting mad at his campaign staffer because his campaign had because the internal polling shows Trump's starting to lose numbers, which he is because the globalist are putting us into a depression. And it doesn't matter whose fault it is. People are getting pissed at Trump because he's not stopping it.

The way to stop it is to declare that we're at war with China. It's honest. Cool. The little newer water rats will run. So that's awful. Cool. Hey, he'll eat your ass, Dan. Let's direct more attention towards this guy. The guy who's saying that the president needs to declare war with China. Of course. This is a this sounds more like a Coke fuel pitch meeting to Michael Bay. Like it's got all the OK. So no, so what's going on at the same time is that China is actually secretly at war with us and that's why when we got the president in now it's time for the explosions. Okay, you pull up the explosions

everywhere will Smith. I don't care. Let's get it done. It's good to know that Alex like really gained a lot of his pseudo credibility early on as being an anti war guy anti war guy. He turns out that those wars that we were in just weren't big enough. They weren't the war. They weren't world wars as which is what he actually wants. He wants a cataclysmic apocalyptic or of course as opposed to awful wars. People who imagine themselves to be able to survive tend to want to be those lone survivors. You know it's true like I'm never going to get the chance to live out my dreams unless there's a

world war with China. Yeah. On our last episode Jordan you inform me that Trump had mentioned that he'd seen proof that the virus came from the lab in Wuhan and war is good and right and I had not heard that by the time we recorded. I regret to have seen that clip now and it's bad. Yep. Alex talks about it here in this next clip a little bit. I will say does not analyze things much just kind of his responses. Of course. Yeah. Which is my guess is probably what you should expect. They have instituted a martial law lockdown beginning in blue cities following communist Chinese propaganda and are

attempting to complete our journey into a complete depression that is already worldwide is already rated as the greatest depression in history by every metric that is only going to intensify. We do not immediately reopen everything and admit this is a giant hoax. But once we've committed to a lie they know the general public likes the sissy pants around and get into all the fear. But President Trump released the bombshell info yesterday. We already know and the media totally ignored it confirming he's seen the evidence the viruses man made it came from the Wuhan lab. Here's the

president. You've seen anything at this point that gives you a high degree of confidence that the Wuhan Institute of Burialogy was the origin of this virus. Yes I have. Yes I have. And I think that the world health organization should be ashamed of themselves. Oh my fucking God. The public relations agency for China. President Trump yesterday saying he's seen evidence suggesting the coronavirus emerged from a lab in Wuhan China where the pandemic began. This is senior U.S. officials are reportedly looking into ways to hold China accountable for its handling of the virus. According to

the Washington Post the president in the White House and White House aides have discussed stripping China of its sovereign immunity which would open the door for the U.S. government or COVID-19 victims and their families to sue China for damages. Some administration officials have also reportedly discussed having the U.S. cancel part of its debt obligations to China. That's not enough. Sure. Declare war. Alex wants war. Like he's I mean he talked he's talked about it a bit in the past months and you know but like it's getting to a point where

he's being really blunt about it. Yeah because what I mean what does he imagine happens after that. What does he imagine happens after two large you know superpowers declare war against each other. What happens then we each choose one champion to fight in single combat. Uh-huh. Whomever wins rules the world and what happens after this protracted period where we've alienated a lot of our allies sure over the last couple years. Let's say they each choose one champion to fight against us. Exactly. Yes. I don't imagine most of the worlds who are generally our allies being too thrilled with the idea of us declaring

war on China. No. I would imagine it would not be the easiest sell. Yeah. No we're going to need to we're going to need like the White House needs to start hiring people whose only job is it is to really listen hard and tackle like they should hire Brian Urlock or he's got his hair back now get him ready to fucking take the guy down. If he starts to say I think we should declare and then he's gone. That's what I would say and even if it's just a holiday. Yeah still got to tackle it. He declared it's our doom done. Yeah. I don't know man. It's a mess. Yeah. I don't even know how to have any kind of conversation

about it outside of I hate I hate this. I just I don't understand why people are listening to him or allowing him to speak in any functional way. Well I just don't understand it. He should be like just fine. He's he gets to stay president. Put him in a box. Just put him in a nice little box. Have him deliver addresses to people who dressed like the people who were there. He can't see. He doesn't tell the different great a fun little mini world where he gets to play act as president. That would be nice. That would be nice. I think we could do it. So Owen Schreuer is out at a rally of some sort. I

guess there's another protest against the distancing and all that. And so he brings up a couple of things in this next clip that I think are just like real stupid. We're seeing YouTube and Twitter ban the videos of those California doctors saying hey this isn't working. It's now been discovered that Facebook has actually been doing the tracing application on their Facebook apps for a month now and they've actually measured how many percentage of people have stayed in not moved versus how many percentage of people have been out on the streets moving and the numbers where people

stay in and don't leave their house is the numbers where we have the biggest outbreaks. New Jersey. No shit. So what's which is true. You stay hurt it inside. No light. It gets in the air conditioning. You're all scared and your body just thinks you're supposed to die when you're all hurt it in the dark. So Owen brings up two dumb points there and let's take. Wow. Let's take them one at a time. Wow is that dumb. So the doctors he's referring to in California are Dan Erickson and Artin Masahi Masihi to the two of them are

they run an urgent care center in Bakersfield and they've gained a bit of prominence lately because they put out a DIY press conference video where they said that we need to go back to work and the virus isn't so bad. They're basing this off the information they gathered at their clinic which is the first problem with their conclusions. They made the mistake of thinking that their sample the people who chose to come into their clinic was representative of the general population which it is not because they found a high number of people who came to their clinic testing positive but not

dying they extrapolated that to the entire population which is just not good work. Many many doctors and infectious disease experts have come out very critically about their information and they've been denounced by the American College of Emergency Physicians and the American Academy of Emergency Medicine California State Senator Richard Pan who's also a pediatrician and the chair of the Senate Health Committee harshly criticized them and said quote they're really doing this as a way to fish for attention. These guys suck and they really just exist to give cover for people to push the this isn't a big

deal narrative which makes sense that they're a big hit at info wars. They are a zero the we we tested and gave care to literally tens of wealthy white affluent people and looks like everybody is fine. I don't need to worry about the numbers stipulating that 80 percent of deaths in Georgia were in the black community. I don't need to worry about I'm not particularly sure what the demographics or even the gross number of people who come into their clinic are but it doesn't matter. No there are there are what there's a reason that this is not a statistically representative sample just based on the

idea that these are the people who chose to come into your clinic. Yeah. So anyway as for that Facebook tracking thing I didn't even care to look in to what Owen's talking about and misunderstanding because even if I pretend that everything he's saying is totally accurate it's so easy to see how he got the wrong conclusion. If we stipulate his information Owen is trying to say there's a causal link between staying in and there being a bigger outbreak. However that link is not established and it's honestly more likely that the relationship goes the other direction in places where there's

a larger outbreak people are more likely to take things seriously and follow the state home guidelines. How is it? I don't know. I was listening to that going like or maybe the people in areas of large outbreaks know someone who fucking died and are taking it for very seriously that could be and you dumb dumb's don't. If you find a piece of data namely that in areas with larger outbreaks more people are staying inside you can't report that is staying inside makes outbreaks worse. Alex is trying to justify that absurd theory that Owen's putting forth but it's just trash is a just trash work.

It's definitely a fingerprint of someone who's trying to make information conform to pre existing conclusions as opposed to letting information guide them on their way to a conclusion which should be in for wars motto or something. People are avoiding beaches with giant shark outbreaks on them. So naturally that must mean that if you stay away from a beach sharks are coming out of everywhere. That's the only thing that makes sense to me. Yeah. I mean that's solid thinking. Yeah. Really solid thinking. So there's some gun news. Sure. Canada effective immediately bans 1500 types of assault

weapons using the crisis to take the guns because you're all complying so well. That's a bad attest for here. So just remember if over and all this is only going to make it worse. I'm going to go back to Owen Schroyer here. So Canada's gun ban wasn't done using the coronavirus situation at all. And in fact it probably has just about nothing to do with it. The 1500 models of assault weapons were banned in response to the recent spree shooting in Nova Scotia which was the deadliest mass shooting ever in Canada. Over 13 hours the gunman killed 22 people and injured three others at multiple

locations around the province. I don't know too much about the killer's motivation or psychology but the attack did begin as a domestic disturbance against his girlfriend because that seems very consistent in these cases. That's always fucking happens. I don't know what else to say about the shooting other than they are an absolute tragedy that didn't need to happen. Canada is their own country and if they decide that one of the ways they want to remedy the problem that they have experienced is by restricting access to certain types of guns then they have the right to do that. It has nothing to do

with the virus but Alex needs it appear to be because otherwise the story seems to be about how dangerous domestically violent men with guns can be and that story is not in his best interest to cover. I think we should focus on that story. That story seems like a really important one. People should think Alex can't. That's probably true. So Owen is expressing this different feeling than Alex. He's frustrated that Trump isn't doing anything. We've proven that China attacked us with a bio weapon. Jesus Trump's not doing anything. So Owen had been sort of expressing some of these ideas. Alex

is trying to reassure him here and he says something that I think is very telling. You know Owen you're like OK great Trump says it came out of we already know that months ago. I understand Owen but it's like force 10 from Navarone when they blow up the dam and it doesn't just fall down right away. Give it a couple of minutes. It's going to collapse. He's got to have times the cracks to all form. We already have blown up a lot of their operations. They still launched their disease X plan. They already had ready but now they're badly coordinated. They're not in full control and

let's just say Bill Gates's dream is never going to get realized now. Now it won't be comfortable for you and I because you have to replace me when they whack me or put me in prison soon. But it's OK. Just you have to be ready to double down because it'll be death and destruction if you don't know. And so Trump Trump's getting there. He can't scare people too much but I mean he's already getting us ready for war with China. Everybody ready to suit up for that because I mean it's on. They're going to hit us with proxy wars. They're going to pull a bunch of stuff. Everybody ready because I mean

yeah we don't want to be slaves. It's going to be time to fight real soon. So the the war stuff is all just sort of this continuing trend but he says there you need to replace me. Yeah Alex is starting to talk more openly about replacements successor and apparently it's Owen which I a real bummer but I kind of got that sense to it wasn't ever good. It looked like it should be Paul for years but I think Paul by virtue especially of him like saying that Alex was wrong about Sandy Hook. Yeah. I think he might have tried to go out go into business for himself a little too much. Yeah.

Yeah. You can't you can't get too far out of pocket if you're Paul Joseph Washington especially not with you the very clear father son thing going on between Alex and Owen and Owen's pretty popular in some of the more fringe communities of younger people that could be a profitable market. So Alex gets into in this next clip talking about how he can't submit to his enemies sure and then it gets into a ramp that is very disturbing and if you are sensitive to issues about abuse of children let's say maybe be careful but it's just gross this is just a gross this is a gross clip. Okay. This

country is at war and we didn't start this war and I just I just can't lay down and I've said this a thousand times I'll say it again if we were getting conquered by something better I'd join it. What? I'd be honest about it say this is better this is more pro-human I like it and I'm going to join this this is not about Russian thing you could be on the planet you couldn't I'm serious you couldn't stick my arms in a blender bad and get me to sign on to one do you put a gun to my head this is like so horrible like ball of sorrow comes out and goes look at the world they put out their head group saying

have teachers masturbate newborn babies it's zero to four start the masturbation that's pedophilia that's the state touching your son and your daughter's genitals and the media went oh ball of sorrows crazy it's not true well yeah it's sex education and you know the teachers start when the baby's born stimulating their penis or clitoris I mean it says it in the report it's pedophilia and they go oh we're not doing that oh we are doing that these people are fricking pedophiles man they're vampires they don't want to just screw your kids they want to screw their innocence and suck them dry and your

child's first experience is gonna be a nurse jerking them off family show it's it's it's why not they're injecting them a deadly poison but why not give them a encouraging kids to be gay gay the who report says that they will start masturbating newborn babies you know what that means I didn't plug this hour stuff so intense if you don't get sworeable food now you're insane almost everybody else doesn't have it or is lying to you we have it wow I mean what the fuck is this the just ran like just ranting about nonsense about masturbating infants getting into just just no time at all we got food back

yeah well of course I mean yeah the who plan is actually not to get fooled again right I don't know if you knew that one or not they won't they will not get fooled again so apparently Bolsonaro recently came out on Facebook and made some pretty fucked up and completely unsubstantiated and unsourced claims about what the World Health Organization recommends for children there's as part of his attack on the WHO surrounding the coronavirus because you know he's a strong arm dictator leader type he's resistant to the concept of taking things seriously they could tend to make him look personally weak pink

news looked into his claims and said he that quote Bolsonaro appeared to be twisting information from a 2010 guide developed with the World Health Organization for parents not children by the Federal Center for Health Education in Germany the guide provides information to parents on how to discuss sexuality and gender with their children and does not encourage sexual behavior business insider reported that it seemed to come from this guide called quote standards for sexuality education in Europe they reviewed the guide and found that it was quote explanatory and does not encourage masturbation or

homosexuality that's the part Alex is kind of downplaying Bolsonaro's post was also pretty homophobic because he's a huge anti LGBTQ bigot and he's been pretty open about that Alex wants this just to be about nurses masturbating infants but that isn't all Bolsonaro was talking about and none of it's even real even Bolsonaro seems to realize that he was talking a load of bullshit because he deleted the post after it got pretty heavy criticism Alex is pretending that any of this is real but it's not it's just a strong arm aspiring dictator lashing out against perceived enemies

which is Alex is kind of guy yeah well even though he does not know his name no he bolso was it what was it this time Bolso sorrow no he's settled into this one Bolsario no what is I don't even know it's just Bolsaro but however he pronounced in that clip is how he pretty standard pronounces it real bad yeah yeah I think good for you Alex I think Bolson are might be unhinged right now probably because his kids should be going to jail and so should he but we'll see how that goes right now so in this next clip a lot like Alex and this next clip Alex has he wants this picture on screen and the crew can't find it of

course a little frustrating see I had a image in my mind about that can you pull up the man the space that's standing in the in the national park in the forest by the trout stream but remember back in October November we had this image up for weeks on here and I just said this is the future I just feel it I see it it'll be the earth is uninhabitable for humans and we'll have to be in a space suit to be on it but it really won't be that the earth's uninhabitable it'll be that they're cutting us off now that we've become domesticated and now we're cut off from the land and now that we don't know how

to take care of ourselves that the outside environment will be so toxic from what's been put into us and how our immune system has been turned off that pollen in the air will kill us and that was kind of a psychic imprint that I was having and and and that's their whole rollout program if we can't find it over there in the gym hanging on the wall I had it actually printed up get a gym it's been of course December we can pull that off the wall I could maybe next segment I'll show it to you but you can only work out your mind the type of stuff we're talking about and that's what we're faced with here and that's how

you control a population pollen is we put it in post later it's fine it's put it put a note then we'll put it in post put it in post that's how they oh there it is but it's it's not as you know um I would suggest everybody get as self-sufficient as you can the big cities are nothing but giant kill grids sure and I've known this you've known this common sense knows this it's time to get out of these places because everything that's going to happen in them are going to be 10 times worse than what happens outside of them and you already have the

establishment fleeing the cities getting out admitting they're preparing for this because they've engineered it ladies and gentlemen we need to get out get out now get out run while you can because they're gonna have the clamp down and turn the clamp down off and turn the clamp down on I mean it's over unless we just admit it's all a hoax and they arrest the chai calm agents and shut down the whole eugenics combine so get your storable foods that's one place to start the info or store.com it's a good place to start operation the historical foods you need the last 25 years you just have as a backup they're

very easy to transport and carry the best price you're gonna find just constant these pivots. So we talk a lot about the kind of damage Alex Jones does by way of his crusades against people and how they can lead to like targeted harassment and we talk about how his rhetoric has the tendency towards people getting the impression that they need to be the tool of God's vengeance against Alex's imagined enemies and all that stuff is bad but this clip I think represents another element of the damage Alex does to people who are unfortunate enough to believe he knows anything he can just fuck up your life it's one thing for

him to profit off people by selling them a bunch of overpriced and pointless pills but what he's doing right now could completely destroy someone imagine you're a committed info wars listener and believer who lives in a city and you hear Alex repeatedly saying it's time to get out of the cities because they're kill grids is it not possible that someone might hear that and take him seriously like what if you have a good job or you're a homeowner what if you have kids have a dynamic web of social relationships already formed in their school what Alex is suggesting is a complete upheaval of all of those things

and he's just flippantly throwing this out there because some weird vision he had about people in spacesuits to protect them from pollen or some shit like this is this could like really cause a lot of trouble what's what's going on with you well five years ago I was a systems analyst for you know Comcast I was making six figures a year and then Alex told me to move so now I live here that was Idaho that was really this is great that was the image that I had in my head of like anybody saying the words I moved because Alex said to get out of the city yeah it made me so depressed I learned out of chop wood sure that's

what I did I can run a trot line I ran out of storable foods about three years ago and I ate his ass so we get a guest coming up then that's a little depressing to think about Alex affecting people to that extent yeah but what's not depressing is the return of a guy who's Leo he's neo no way he's the head of matrixism hell yes I do not respect Leo Zagami one bit no and so I don't care about any of the things he's saying about the Vatican of course not I don't care at all and I honestly got so bored listening to this really yes except for when it starts to get a little apocalyptic towards the end and we have some interesting reveals

but he's just rattling on about the pope I don't really care come on pope's doing stuff so they start talking a little bit about about Mark Zuckerberg and I think that Leo reveals he might be a little bit ready to invent Facebook no I mean obviously Zuckerberg just looks like a robot he now he sweaters he now wears pink sweaters like Bill Gates look non-threatening I said if Hitler wore pink sweaters he would have taken over no one would have thought about my guy's wearing pink it was like ah well it's okay he's wearing pink sweater I mean who is Zuckerberg another thing Alex he married a Chinese he's just learning Chinese all day long he's obsessed with China

that's not that's real racist yeah just a small point here Mark Zuckerberg's wife Priscilla Chan was born in Massachusetts and here's a little blurb about her from an article in courts quote a first-generation American she grew up in Quincy, Massachusetts a working-class suburb of Boston her parents were ethnic Chinese who came to the United States from Saigon part of a wave of refugees known colloquially as the Vietnamese boat people quote you literally put your children on a boat say goodbye and a hope to meet them on the other side says Chan the Vietnamese boat people were refugees fleeing Vietnam after the end of the Vietnam War which if you recall ended when the People's Army of Vietnam took Saigon in April 1975 you would not think that someone with

that element in their family history would be particularly inclined to love the current Chinese government that seems like what I would be comfortable saying well we just heard there that's an expression of Leo being a raging racist yeah that sounds more like it he's married to a Chinese yeah no kidding like I nobody's American unless you know they're white right like that's that's kind of the vibe so the two of them are talking about how Alex is you know in trouble I guess and it turns out that recently Maria Abramovich the artist the performance artist sure and Fiona Hill the person who Alex attacked you right both of them have apparently said recently something to the effect of I'd talk to him like oh no like something like this guy keeps lying

about me right I would be willing to talk to him oh no and so Alex believes that this is them trying to parlay sure why would Microsoft use the satanic high priestess as their pitch woman because of course it opens the doors to acceptance also in the art world if you watch her it's a circle they're watching she appears in the circle which is the opposite if she's a demon they need to be in the circle well let's explain that we'll show some of that because she's reached out to us she wants to meet with me Leo I wonder why she wants to meet with me right now that's who they've sent is their ambassador so does Fiona Hill she wants to meet seriously so all these sorrows want to meet with me what do they think is going to happen when I meet with them

they're going to activate the circle and you're going to be trapped inside yeah obviously this is the other way this game is played like they won't talk to me they you know they'll never talk to me and then people they will talk to me that's because I wonder what their plan is that's why they're talking to me is because they're going to trap me yeah it's a perfect system for never having to actually deal with these people that you've lied about for years yeah yeah so Leo is on to mostly talk uh I mean he talks about the Vatican a little bit but it seems mostly that this is like him telling Alex that this is the fucking end times man sure this is the end times that we've always been talking about we are about to approach the most dangerous part of

it because once they grab us for the mark of the beast with the mill men in the gates so this is the beginning of the end times yes and so you can debate it's all esoteric so the general public can't understand it I understand it's coded but you're really smart what is the best belief are you societies but by your own research come on those secret societies because we know they know what's real about the the time frame of of of the of the end times or is that governed by how we we respond it's not it's fluid it's a general guide but it's it's fluid well we announced together at the beginning of the year when we did the show in early January that this 2020 will be a year like no other because for for the Illuminati it symbolizes something particular the

connection of these two numbers together this yin and yang let's remember that doesn't the year start there's no year zero dead well whatever it's only 2019 or whatever I mean let's let's leave that aside and just remember that prior to 2012 Leo Zagami was going around telling anybody who would listen that the coming of the year 2012 would bring with it the rise of the Holy Roman Empire that would have him Leo lion Zagami as the head of it because he's Jesus and it did happen and he did 9 11 along with Osama bin Laden who didn't right so I mean like yeah okay great let's listen to you about these these predictions about things that are going to happen it seems very relevant to his credibility sure to ignore those things exactly yeah I think it's I think it's good to

know that he's more humble now he's not saying that the end times is going to end with him being the supreme leader yeah he's just saying we're going through the end time and then once that happens once that happens once he ascends the only religion that would be allowed in his world is matrixism of course because he's neo he's leo absolutely oh god this fucking guy like it's that's the kind of stuff that's like it's hilarious that alex talks to him and takes him seriously it's wild it's so funny I'm listening to him talking I'm just going I know your story man how did you wind up here I still don't understand just as an idea yeah that alex is talking to him that's funny enough you don't even need to like actually listen to what he's saying for sure but

unfortunately he does say some really funny things like this so this is the great testing is now cities will become smart cities they will be called smart in reality smart is a nightmare there was a film from 1997 called demon seed in which they showed the first smart house in which this woman was locked up until she was impregnated by the artificial intelligence that's what they ultimately will do in 2030 so that's what's coming in 2030 yeah your house is going to impregnate you that's a real bummer that's a real bummer I was I was I was hoping to live my life without being impregnated by an artificially intelligent house but well you win some you lose some yep so the this conversation is fully off the rails already oh yeah the topic of the end the end times comes up but like this

is I mean alex I think if you listen to this you can't walk away with any other conclusion then he legitimately thinks he's fighting aliens a digital prison an anti-human is this a leo's copy track a fallen takeover an entity not of this world marooned here with one mission enslave and destroy a more advanced species before it awakens to its real potential that's where you are leo zegami scholar researcher expert on the world order really they're launching their full attack so I mean like this is this is the stuff that like the way alex should be treated yeah just

because he's been like more successful than anybody and just because he has a studio that looks legitimate people should not ignore the fact that he believes he's fighting a space demon yeah that is that should be front and center at all times yeah this is an apocalyptic extremist religious broadcast at its core and we should never ignore that we ignore it a little bit sometimes just because it become burdensome yeah if we just kept pointing it out but yeah like people who are doing these hits on him I don't mean hit like a hit job and then like a media hit yeah just a story yeah you know it's fun talk about him eating his neighbors but also be sure you let people know he's basically a extremist religious wacko and his guest

committed 9 11 we're not talking about that leo zegami is responsible for 9 11 and we're just gonna allow that to go I think even more fucked up he didn't and he said he did in the same way that alex talking about murdering all these people in his past he obviously is lying yeah it's more fucked up that he wants people to think that he did when he didn't same with leo he said he did 9 11 he did do 9 11 of course not I gave the order go fuck yourself I do like I think alex would do a great job doing like just opening crawl narration yeah I'm gonna I'm gonna call that movie marshal lock down log the only thing that alex could do that be productive for society would have been that yeah a little bit of talking dramatically over music perfect you could have

found your positive niche yeah dan lefontein you could have been there well not that not there not there so you mentioned earlier that whole idea about like demons have to be welcomed in and all that they like or you need everybody you need to tell people what your plan is before you do it absolutely it turns out that the globalists might be looking for a way of course they are around that absolutely that's an annoying rule pushing this reality so they can translate into this dimension everything that up until now was only possible to be invited through occult rituals you see satan was capable of coming into a dimension only if he was invited him and his demons and his legion sure if they were invited they could come into this dimension you had to do a ritual

you had to get opened up yeah totally well the bible exactly rebel he talks about portals to hell being opened that cyberspace sure that is not only cyberspace but it's also what's happening at chern do you remember what's happening at oh yeah you got an article about the chai comms and they have the god of destruction there oh man getting rangy on these conspiracy theories now but yeah so seren is involved in right demon portals you can't agree with somebody and then say a completely different thing as though they're the same like oh of course it's cyberspace it's also seren like what are you fucking talking about nothing they're talking about nothing so but it's also important to recognize that like they're talking about this in very concrete

terms of course it's one thing to kind of poetically talk about you know a battle between good and evil within yourself or something or a call yeah they're talking about this as like the next couple years sure the global awakening of the last few years forced them to accelerate their plan which is why is the bible state still they'll be built for like one year a very slope talks about a day a year looking at that leo what does that esoteric mean how long does this thing how long we have to deal with this once it's in place well if you study very accurately there is a specific number of months that we still have available before we will be fronting the last phase which will bring us inevitably to armageddon because there will be a confrontation between the two sides

at one point and this confrontation is as i said inevitable and five more minutes that he's going to take over but i want to get your interpretation of that because if there's a confrontation between the good armies the bad armies not just god there who are those armies and what happens when all this goes down i think you can guess who the armies are well i mean there's the wargs of course the goblins ride them i believe the orcs there's the uruk high as well the eagles come in and there's the bill and melinda gates foundation there's the rockefellers and then there's fucking leo's ago i love that these guys believe in an infinite evil devil but they're like see and he can't get around this problem until 2020 like he's never thought of it because it's a fun

number like the devil is oh no now it's 2020 ha ha even though there was no year zero so alex is concerned about like they're right there's these prophecies sure and in these end times right there's going to be some beheadings that happen of course saints are going to come back naturally so leo when's that going to happen next week when is all the head shopping started and like the the two profits risen back up elijah and all that is that going to happen from research all the all this what's happening 42 let's say around 2025 we will really have this major unfold you pulled that out of your ass on top of our eyes and so the next four years are critical and the next 10 of course are the ones that will change the whole destiny of mankind as a species

even god it'll almost be a blessing to get my head chopped off and i'll be around these people anymore god almighty i applaud alex for not turning that into a trump 2020 at you know the next four years will be critical that's why we need trump um yeah i i appreciate that and i'm just getting depressed and yearning for his head to be chopped off but it's going to be 2025 huh where did you come upon that number is it because i just asked you that right now and you were like hey 2025 works yeah also i mean what would like he was saying 2012 before sure so where was 2025 in that like he did the math wrong right i don't care this guy is a fucking idiot 13 years from 2012 13 is a powerful number that's the number that phiona hill puts on her circle sure circle turns into a

dream catcher and that's where dreams come from damp could be what i think i lost the thread on that one so earlier in the episode alex talked about how oan needs to take over for him sure and i might have just thought that was sort of a flip and decide but the way this episode ends makes me think that alex is really really thinking about this right now said i leo i want you to move to austin because they're probably about to seriously i don't want to make they're trying to put me in prison right now it's a bunch of stuff i can't talk about yet we need to get you here in austin more bonus we need to have you here with oan everybody you can host the alex show show how's that sound no sirs yes please you know any general at the end of their operations you

know needs that needs to have replacements so if you want to be next up in the dock my friend you want to step into the real firestorm we need you to move back i'm gonna say you need to move here leo i'm gonna give you a job you can come move to austin i want you here god will show us the way show you the way show me the way and i think it will protect us in this battle i'll say i don't need more trips you know that answer is you can't afford me yeah i think even leo knows you're not going to get paid enough to go work at austin for alex and whatever the like whatever it is that alex is concerned about imaginary or real if he goes in for wars does not survive this business does not work without him there and i think anybody no less leo takes over the

war room oh my god i will listen to the war room if it's just leo zigami ranting about how the pope is going to kill every no i'm all about it you haven't listened to episodes where he's on and he does that it's very boring is it god damn it but it seems like it would have to be fun no it's not you may imagine that it is but it's not it's just so i mean but we have this here alex is in this real like i mean it's escalating on on two fronts there's there's the escalation that's coming surrounding him wanting literal war with china yes which is disturbing and very inappropriate and on the other hand the this my time is pretty much over is escalating as well like from the you know we don't have much time left to this the enemy is already won we've lost this round all

that kind of talk to much more concrete i need my successors yeah oh and you're going to take over leo moved to austin and do my show yeah it's it's it's taking it from the abstract to the more concrete and that to me is a progression i think that i think it's exactly what you'd expect to see but i would have expected him to be a little more private about these things and certainly less desperate sounding talking to leo that is that is a good point that it's gone from just being like i'm going to my time here is going to end to concrete plans of like when my time ends yeah owen is going to take over for me when things are over i want leo here to hey nobody really wants leo no no absolutely not and leo doesn't want to be there leo does not want to live in austin

no that's ridiculous there are very few disco texts that he enjoys that's true it's true so yeah i mean we come to the end of this episode and you know i don't know i don't know what we got but i my my mood and my tone is maybe a little bit more down than it needs to be but i think a lot of that is just because like it's tough it's tough to watch people just sort of fall into the traps that alex sets yeah and bums me out and at the same time it bums me out that it bums me out because i don't like i keep trying to make this point because i think it's important i don't begrudge anyone for doing what they're doing no i think it's bad i think it's wrong tactically but i don't i don't think any i think i'm i have no interest in yelling at anybody who

works for like slate or salon or those places that posted articles but i it just it it just bumps me out that uh you know there's no there's not a recognition that it only helps him yeah anybody who if you have a platform that you suspect is larger than info wars just don't do it yeah if you suspect it yeah you have no way of knowing for sure but if you suspect that your publication has more followers than him then don't do it because the only thing you do is you run the risk of a wider number of people becoming curious going to his site seeing stuff where he has more control over the i was doing a jonathan swift style satire piece and you know it's it's not going to be everybody who ends up falling for it but you run the risk of a certain

percentage of them falling for it and that's not good you should block off those paths as opposed to facilitate yeah it doesn't give me hope for the second wave of uh covid is the like we deplatform to alex a while back and look his numbers have gone way way down and so then the first opportunity it's like let's give him as wide a platform as we possibly can like guys we won we were winning well he was going away i don't think that people look at it as helping him that's the that's the crucial disconnect that people have is they think that negative attention is bad for him and they don't recognize that he plays a different game than maybe normal people do like because most people if you have shame right most people if you were to have like a video

of you yelling about how you're going to eat your neighbors yeah embarrassingly um you know someone covering it would be a thing where i gotta get a statement of apology yeah yeah i didn't mean to clarify or whatever but for someone like alex it's like how do we lean in yeah how do we get more attention out of this how do we get more negative attention yeah and so it's just a strategic change just needs to be made and i would love to say that i know exactly what that is but i don't really yeah i just i think that calling out what the things for what they are in terms of like look at this desperate loser i think that might help but it also might not i don't know there might actually be no solution and if that's the case whatever i don't know i guess the only thing i

can think of is that uh he doesn't talk about us no you know so there's there's something about what we do that uh is immune from his feeding off of negative attention it seems that way but maybe it's just again that could just be a self-serving bullshit line you know yeah maybe we just are completely in off the radar yeah yeah that's entirely possible it's it's it's seems unlikely to me but it's possible but yeah but that's the thing is like and and again just the theory i think that if you're going to cover alex you need to find ways to make it so anybody who has attention to the thing that you're covering will it's negative for alex yeah you have to you have to almost put within what you're doing uh fail safe and and that's why i think it's okay

for us to laugh and make fun of alex's uh eating people stuff right you know because anybody who could come to us i don't think would ever be like oh i gotta check this guy yeah no no chance i think that there is a there is a safety to it whereas an article about him might not be i don't know he just spent an hour explaining how he might be a terrorist and then they played me this he eats butts thing and i'm like maybe they're lying about him and maybe he just loves eating butts i don't know yeah i don't know i don't i don't think there's a good answer i don't i don't know but anyway uh we will be back jordan but until then we have a website we do have a website it's knowledgefight.com you're right we are also on twitter we are on twitter it's at knowledge

underscore fight and i go to bed jordan you're right we're on facebook we are on facebook we like to tell the show please like to rate review patreon and if you would like please uh find a local charity and donate to help people yep uh we'll be back uh no year of the selzer review this uh this time i kind of forgot but uh we'll be but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i am the juiciest ice cube andy and chanzis you're on the air thanks for holding so alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you