Knowledge Fight - #436: May 22, 2020

Episode Date: May 25, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan explore some issues related to the end of last week on The Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Joe Rogan says that Alex is lying about his move to Spotify, Alex indicates a lack of awareness about the country's founding documents, and reveals that he may be communicating with Trump telepathically.

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed. We are Dan Jordan, Jordan. Quick question. What's up? What's your right spot today? Why don't you why don't you take the lead on this one? I have a simultaneous bright and incredibly dark spot. No, that's not that that's not the segment. We had our couch has been savaged by all kinds of small dogs excrement. And so we finally just we got to get a new

couch. We got a sure. I agree with that. Yeah. It's been a long time since I've been over to your place, but I still agree with that. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I can't imagine what's happened since then. So we got a new couch and they delivered it. I was supposed to come at 10 and instead it came at 830 and neither she nor I are mourning people especially when there's no job on the on the horizon to get up for you and I am a severe caffeine addict and I had not had any coffee whatsoever yet. And so it was an insanely heavy couch and we got into one of those fights of just like that's the super dark part. Yeah. Yeah. Just just one of those fights where it's like, no, it goes in this way. That's the only way.

And then that spirals out of control because we're both exhausted, but couch looks great. That's good. Also, it didn't come with two of the cushions. So it's not so high, low, low. This is a zigzag. It's a wave pattern. Not stop. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was a rough morning, but everything's worked out. Well, good morning. I say in the afternoon, I guess my bright spot. This seems like a cheap thing to do. And maybe it's not fair, but my bright spot in the last couple of days has definitely been preparing for an episode that we're not doing today. Of course. Yeah. Of course. I had meant to do a Bill Cooper episode for today, but something happened that made me need to talk about Alex Jones. Okay. And so we're

sticking on Alex Jones, but I was preparing for a Bill Cooper episode and something happened in that episode that I was marching around the apartment doing like fingers up in the air kind of celebratory. It was I heard something in an episode that I never would have expected. I probably should have guessed. I don't want to. I hate to be teasing like this, but I think we'll do it for Wednesday and you'll understand as soon as that happens. Bill Cooper actually is Bill Hicks. No, that's the is not the case. Neither is Alex. So Jordan, shitty bright spot on my part and up and down bright spot on your part. Hey, you know what? You live you learn. It's true. So today we got an interesting episode to go

over. Like I said, we're still talking about Alex Jones. We're going to be talking about the May 22nd, 2020 episode. I'm Dan. This is 2020 and we're going to talk about some other things in addition to that. Okay. That are why I ended up staying with Alex breaking news. Some new develop somewhat. Yes, or a follow-up from our Friday episode. For sure. And we'll get down to business on that. But before we do, let's take a moment to say thank you to some folks who signed up in our sporting show. So first Andrew L. Thank you so much. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you, Andrew. Thank you. Next Mike. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thanks, Mike. I'm gonna try and use the last initials when

possible. But Mike was just Mike. Mike's just no, no last name. Okay. All right. So that's a serious Mike. Oh, it definitely is. Yeah. Next Sally S. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you, Sally. Yes. Sally. Thank you. Next Chris M. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Like a Chris conspiracy of Chris conspiracy. Next Talbaron. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Talbaron. No last name on that one. I like it. I like a good Talbaron. Next Derek E. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you, Derek. Thank you. And then finally, like I say, thank you to a couple people donated on the elevated level. We appreciate

that very much. So Kristen P. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat and Jason K. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Crikey, Mike. That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro? We got to go full tilt buggy on this Watson. All right. Let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin. Why are you pimp so good? My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you. Thank you so much, Kristen. And thank you so much, Jason. Yes. Thank you very much to the both of you. If you're out there listening and thinking, Hey, I enjoy the show. I'd like to support these gents too. You can do that by going to our website, knowledge fight.com, clicking the button to support the show. We would appreciate

it. Or if you'd like to, you can take that generosity, twist it around and throw it at a local charity in your area that helps people. I'm trying to find different ways to say it, Jordan. I like it. No, I like it. I admit that that was not as good as it could have been. It got a little out of your hands, but we would appreciate that as well. So Jordan, now it's time for you into our episode to get into the segment that is taking over my life. Okay. That is, of course, the year of this out there. Oh, man, so we're in real trouble here in real trouble. You're getting more drops. I forgot. Damn it. I forgot the name of the person who sent that to me, but thank you. You know who you are out there who sent me that drop. Thank

you so much. So Jordan today. I here's my update that I have. All right. I wanted to get weird with it. So I was at the store not too long ago and I saw signature select. I think it's the jewel brand. Okay. And they have a bunch of flavors and so eventually we'll be able to knock out a number of them, but they had two that were sort of weird. There was orange cream and strawberry cream. So they were like like an orange sickle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah trash. Of course they are not good. Orange sickles are trash. You know what I was thinking though as I was drinking it. I was like, hmm, what have I done with my life? That too. Yes, for sure. That thought crossed my mind as it does all the time. Yeah, fair, except for when I'm dancing around because

Bill Cooper said something weird. No, I was thinking that like the lemon cello laquat that is so highly rated. You love so desperate. One of the pieces of that that was so good is that there was a sort of vanilla tinge to it and all this is is an orange thing with a vanilla tinge or strawberry with a vanilla flair. Just doesn't work there. There's something wrong with the way the flavors are balanced. Lemon cello is just a much better balanced vanilla. Yeah, this one is is offensive. Sometimes it's the execution, not the not the ingredients. It's the way you mix them and all that stuff. I'm sure that an orange with a nice vanilla could be a there's a possibility. I'm sure anyway. I'm being far too cruel about this on the podcast. I was disappointed, but

they both got fifty ones. They're not terrible, but I wanted more out of that anyway. This has been Jewel. It's been the year of the Celtic. So Jordan, like I said, we got we got we at the twenty second to get into and I'll be honest with you right up top. We have some fun things to talk about, but that shows so of course it's a lot of rambling. It's a lot of talking about the devil and what have you. It's it's mostly pointless. The devil is everywhere except where God is. That's just science. So we have this follow up and so I'm going to play for you a clip that we played on our last episode Friday's episode. This is from May twenty second, which is third or I'm sorry, May twenty first Thursday. And it's Alex talking about Joe Rogan and his

plans to go after the left. And Joe told me about his plans and I told him I said this is hard core, man. You really want me to tell people this? He said, Yeah, no, I want you to go on air and tell everybody this. And so. Joe's always tried to stay politically neutral and he tried to get along with the left and they have acted like total monsters and he's done with him. And he doesn't care what they do. He's coming after him. So that's what's exciting. So this episode came out and then the like over the weekend, Rogan released an episode, his next episode after Alex did this. Sure. And it was very next episode. The guest was David Pacman, noted left wing YouTube talk show host. Sure. Who's a I believe a social Democrat. Right. And

he took him down. He just said, I'm done with you forever. Three hour episode that was very cordial and very nice between the two of them. And it also included Joe saying this. And this is an important point because Alex Jones made some crazy video after our conversation that I had with him yesterday, where he was saying that I'm going to war against censorship and a war against YouTube. That's I'm not doing any of those things. I made this deal with Spotify. Spotify. Yeah, I made the deal with Spotify because it's a great company and it's a great deal. And I'm excited to be in a partnership with the company as opposed to like a company that I just put my stuff up on their platform, whether it's Apple or YouTube. I don't like that YouTube sensors

things. I don't like that they do that like with those doctors in Bakersfield, but I'm not a war with them. I'm not a war with anybody and I'm not okay. I don't I don't envy them their position. So you then gets into talking about how it's the position that YouTube and all of these companies find themselves in is something he doesn't want to have to make those sorts of choices that they are in the position of making. That's a reasonable thought. So the name of that clip is Alex lied to Joe about Joe Rogan. This is 100. I Alex just made that shit one hundred percent. He took whatever the conversation was that the two of them had and maybe it was Joe saying something like you know I do not. I don't think that it's great that YouTube is taking

some of these things down. So now it's like he's on the war pass. That's a really shitty friend. Yeah, that's really bad. Yeah. Alex is a terrible terrible person. So I was listening to this episode with David Pacman and Rogan and I thought like well I could do a whole episode on how stupid fucking Rogan is. Yeah, like he just believes some really stupid shit, but to like to his credit, I guess because I'm I can watch these things critically. He does say like no one should listen to me. Yeah, I don't know what I'm talking about. That's fair. So that's fair. Yeah, it's the same way with like I don't want to do shows about Michael Savage because he's like I am a racist. Yeah. Well, all right. Cool. You have you. You know it. You've said it. People can choose to

not like you for it or like you for it. It's a little bit. It's a little bit out there. Yeah, Joe is like I'm fourth banana on news radio guys. Don't listen to my political views. Yeah, and you know I think some people do still take him seriously, but in terms of like really critically deconstructing like some of these things that he says that are stupid. It's like well, you know, the rebuttal to that would be like Joe says not to take him seriously. Well, I don't have a response to that. Right. Right. But there were a couple things that I think are really worth pointing out. And so here's the first one where Joe wonders about Bill Gates. It's crazy when you go back and listen to Bill Gates Ted talk in 2015 talking about the possibility

of a pandemic and wiping everybody out. And then five years later, you see it happen. And like nobody listened. Nobody listened. But how crazy is it that people are now Bill Gates is the bad guy. I've got people I went to high school. I have people I went to high school with hosting insane conspiracies about Bill Gates is the problem now to a lot of people. How did that happen? Let's see. It'll help me there. Help me there with that. I know I was watching this video. I have a guess. Huntington Beach where there are all these people are protesting free California and they're running around and this guy's got a megaphone. He's like Bill Gates is the devil. Like how did that happen? It's one of the weirdest memes is weird. I know a guy with

a bullhorn cultural memes who says that thing has happened that Bill Gates this this philanthropic billionaire who's literally like made toilets in Africa and spent millions of dollars to try to get people education and millions of dollars on all sorts of great social good. All of a sudden he's a bad guy. This is so illuminating of how bad Joe is at this because on the one hand on this episode he's saying that Alex is fucking lying about the things I told him but not phrasing it that way. And then he's like how can you make Bill Gates the bad guy who could do that. Talk to your friend. You support. Do you not even realize that that's Alex's biggest thing and the pink sweaters at this point like you don't even like when when Joe goes on and he's like hey I like

this guy he's a friend of mine great but yeah recognize that a lot of the things that you think are crazy are things that Alex is very strongly pushing into the mainstream consciousness and so that's pretty sad. This is one of my one of my least favorite. The things that make me so infuriating is when people diagnose the correct problem that we all know how it happened. Everyone knows like Alex wasn't alone in it but he was exactly no but I mean the obvious answer to that is the far right has created a propaganda campaign in order to paint this guy as a villain in order to accomplish their own ends because it's easier to do that and everybody knows this is obvious and take it outside the right wing. It's like conspiracy and larger one world government

and anti vaccination communities have demonized him for a long time and the right wing is picking up on that and amplifying it right and running with it in a way that they might not have right or they might have recognized we're like let's not do this creating other times because of the normalization and mainstreaming totally conspiracy totally as a whole. Now here's the last clip and from Rogan and it's this one really I love and it's because Rogan is talking about how like hey you know it's no good that there's like a profit motive in vaccines right but he is still pro vaccination and everything but he's like you know it is fucked up that we have that which would lead you to believe that what he's actually supporting is like public subsidization

which is nice yes but then this he kind of runs right into a brick wall. There we go. Here's the problem there is profit in vaccines that's a problem so like when you look when someone looks for a conspiracy and they say something like Bill Gates he just wants a profit on the vaccine you can't say no one ever profits on vaccines so that's a stupid idea you go well how much is a vaccine worth and how much profit is there in vaccines then you look in you go whoa there's a lot of profit in vaccines shit I wish there was none I wish you know they're making them just for the greater good of mankind right we're buying private jets and Ferraris off that money but look everything where people do it and do it well seems to require incentive you know and

it's funny to me of the system right because it's not just vaccines but it's funny to me that people don't have a problem with that with capitalism but the same people that would vote right and don't have a problem with the capitalism maybe be anti-regulation are angry that people make money off of vaccines but yes they're also angry because we're cynical and we wonder okay if they're making money off vaccines would it be possible for them to incentivize doctors to vaccinate people more or if they got more people involved they would make more money like that is a problem in just human nature when you can make more reality okay give me the reality the not vaccinating and having way more people to treat for stuff is way more profitable that's a good point oh is it yeah

I love moments like that yeah well yeah all right you win oh this rant that I just went on about something that makes me worried I realized he's based on a completely faulty premise oh yeah okay okay so that episode as a whole isn't like something I would do a whole episode breakdown about but the point of like you know really bringing home that like Alex completely lied about this and Rogan has brought it up on his show like hey Alex is saying crazy shit about our conversation like that's embarrassing that's really bad I can't I can't find a way for his reaction to that to make sense to me because he's chill man that constitutes a massive betrayal oh it should you know somebody took our private conversation twisted it changed it and ruined it and turned

it into a propaganda tool for his bullshit without my knowledge or consent yeah tried to piggyback the story and make it about himself yeah yeah absolutely that's no more a friend time no it's it's a downright borderline sociopathic behavior like you do not yeah yeah yeah well I don't know I mean everyone has their own right to make up their boundaries as they see fit and if Rogan doesn't see that as a complete breach of trust then that's right of course it seems like man you got to expect even worse I mean how can you not expect after saying like how does Bill Gates become the bad guy he builds toilets and yeah yeah yeah how does he expect Alex to not do a segment about that and call you a sneaky right right right right you play this game already

yeah oh Joe yeah great keep keep amplifying in man you poor guy so we're going to get to the twenty second but there's another thing that I came across that I felt needed to be talked about and that was an episode of the war room not a full episode but a clip that Owen Troyer put out and I just want to put this down on wax as it were and bring it to people's awareness oh no that Owen Troyer is putting stuff like this out into the world there is a rally this weekend in Austin Saturday at the Capitol at noon so I will be there but all there's rallies happening California New York everywhere and I can't be a part of all of them but I salute all the rallyers that by the way total proof that there's no damn spread okay 110 percent total proof I don't know what

else I can do I was literally telling Alex was like Alex I'll go eat dirt on the Capitol I'll go lick doorknobs I'll do any I'll lick a doorknob at a hospital to prove this thing isn't real you couldn't get coronavirus if you tried wow so that's probably a bad take I will donate to this cause I mean he did doorknobs he didn't do this and he shouldn't do it you shouldn't encourage him to do that even as like some publicity stunt still negative consequences from that but like that's the kind of thing that people like Owen are putting out into the world because he's like I went to this rally and I didn't get sick it's like yes there is some rant like would you Owen like I understand there's still even like some randomness with like licking a doorknob

like would you you know you could do that and not get sick there's a possibility sure would you exchange bodily fluids with someone who has tested positive and is definitely contagious obviously of course okay there's no spread right there's no spread it yeah yeah that's a real lame game so Owen is doing this rally right to reopen stuff and what have you but he he decides he's going to joke around here about how what it really is is a rally to spread the virus because then what they can do is they can say that we're trying to spread the virus but then when no one gets it it'll all blow up in the media's face this is really bad don't they ever get really tired i'm exhausted by them this weekend weekend weekend rally rally rally austin fake fake fake

fake fake sorry spread spread spread the covid 19 come on out to the texas state capitol building in austin texas come to the front steps and get your corona virus that's right ladies and gentlemen we're looking for a super spread a mega spread a massive spread here in austin texas we don't want things reopened so we're gonna have a massive spread rally in austin texas this saturday at the texas state capitol in austin at 12 noon when the sun is at its peak so that we can spread this virus massively you can take the virus home and spread it i can take the virus home and spread it and we can have a super spread it starts this weekend in austin texas and when there isn't a spread what's the media gonna say are they gonna admit that they were wrong i doubt it so let's have the super

spread rally i'll be there saturday i'm spreading that virus oh i'm gonna spread that virus jason oh and if you bring your grandma you don't have to pay cover charge um these jokes are shit um i remember brevity being the soul of wit and i guess i was wrong yeah yeah you gotta stretch it out apparently you really need to really need to be yeah yeah i think things like that are gonna look really bad uh if you're wrong oan i think that if people die um after these rallies or or or things it kind of makes it look like you're encouraging uh the things that might have been a part of leading to their being infected and uh getting sick and dying so um i i don't know i don't i don't first of all even if that was like you know a joke it's not a good joke no like i i can i

can differ i i can separate myself and be like sure hey this is offensive as hell but it's funny sure you know or sure there is there is that comics that wasn't funny that is that just wasn't funny there was no bit there no anyway i mean they might as well those rallies might as well feature a wicker man at this point like just just string somebody up and burn a whole farm and a person inside it you guys are sacrificing yourselves for something well i don't know why it's it's weird because it's it doesn't feel exactly like that because of the like randomness of it or not randomness but like you know you could go to all of the rallies that have ever been and not get sick it is possible so you could tell yourself that there isn't a risk sure to it um and i don't know i don't

know i mean yeah but there was a guy who was at both Hiroshima and Nagasaki each time when the bombs fell there was a guy who lived through two nuclear bombs really yeah i didn't know you can you can you can do all kinds of weird shit but i'm not going to a fucking rally no i understand that but that the same it's all possible the same mentality is what allows you to like people like Owen and alex to trick with like you're not taking risks so we get to now the the 22nd rogan's rebuttal and owens shitty jokes aside great and like i said i don't really have much commentary about that except for just to say like hey let's remember that let's remember that yeah put that down yeah so um we get to the 22nd and here we jump in and alex has some big news and

that is that the pastors of america are fighting back great against the closure we have the beginning of the victory and it is pastors 66 days into total martial law lockdown saying you you under the first amendment have no law have no right to tell us that we can't be open man congress will make no law respecting the establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof the first words in american government documents once a government for and by the people was established was congress the lawmakers shall make no law you realize that was added on congress the ultimate law making authority shall make no law congress shall make no law moses up on the mountain shall make no law congress shall make no law congress moses didn't really make the laws no

congress shall make no law fake fake fake fake the establishment of religion or prohibiting the practice thereof i wonder if at any point in that constant repetition of saying congress shall not uh i wonder if alex realized that congress has nothing to do with any of the state home orders or business closures congress made the law that's it we're saying at home no congress shall make no law all that stuff who's at fault right now that's just being done on the state level with congress not being in the mix at all the only person who's walking into dicey constitutional territory right now is trump when he threatens to override the state governors who don't go along with what he wants that is in theory a violation of the tenth amendment

something that alex used to yell about a whole lot back in 2009 it's all a bunch of nonsense though trump knows that he legally can't make the governors open up anything it's all just posturing and yelling to his base and i don't know could get dangerous but uh that said this is a pretty big embarrassment on alex's part he's mr state's rights and he's supposed to be a constitutional scholar but even just the very basic things he's saying don't make sense if the constitution says that congress shall not make a law about religion or prohibit its free exercise that isn't relevant to bring up when congress isn't making laws or prohibiting anything uh it's kind of more of a general thing you know like when it says congress it's kind of more just saying like everybody

shall make no and you know you'd like you leave them alone we're all congress we're all congress and any grouping of people is really a congress at the end of the day yeah yeah yeah so you notice something in that last clip there was a little bit weird about alex's phrasing of things and i caught that the first time around too but when alex kept talking i got real worried yeah i got really worried the first words of the government's establishment the rebellion to establish a government of the people was a declaration of independence we the people what about the articles of confederation but now that there's a government the first words are congress cannot make any laws or has no regulations and has no juris diction we put the first amendment to

the u.s. Miller writes up on screenplays just first amendment so this is fucking embarrassing this is bad alex is saying that the declaration of independence begins we the people and that is not true we the people does not appear anywhere in the declaration of independence what alex should have said is quote when in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and nature's god entitle them a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation that's the beginning of the

declaration now the beginning of the declaration of independence the very first beginning is king richard shall make no law restricting sure yeah what alex is thinking of with we the people as the preamble to the constitution george starts alex legitimately seems to not know the difference between the preamble to the constitution and the declaration of independence which is a massive problem considering you're supposed to be an american patriot who studied all this stuff does seem like that what's an even bigger problem is that alex seems to think that the amendments are the beginning of the constitution he's saying that as soon as we got ourselves a country going we're all like all right let's start with amending a blank document which is not the

case that's the plan the constitution begins at the preamble which is you know it's just saying that we're trying to form a more perfect union and this constitution guides the country then it starts with article one which lays out the structure of the legislative branch then there's article two for the executive and article three for the judicial there's seven articles in total in the original document before the amendments were ever ever added alex doesn't know that much about the constitution nor american history not a big fan it's scary whenever it disagrees with you well and he's not really interested in that stuff no he just wants to fight and the amendments are the enumeration of things that the government can't do and would give him justification to fight

the government yep that's all he cares about anyone with the familiarity with us government like i don't know let's say you took a class in high school on it would clearly see that alex has no idea about the things he's talking about and if there's one thing he damn well should know about it's this his whole thing is a charade everything is bullshit the people most likely to carry a constitution are the ones most likely never to have read it well you don't have to read it if you carry it you carry it around with you you pull it out and then when somebody references something you open it up and you go i don't remember that being there at all hmm so alex a lot of the beginning of this episode is about the idea that churches are unessential and the globalists want churches

to be unessential sure um and alex is mad about that because he thinks that they want to end religion and make us all worship the state why as in the europe and the uk the europe australia and the us why are they saying churches are the thing that has to stay closed the longest because it's the most unessential because taught in all the sociology psychology and anthropology textbooks now they teach that religion is mental illness because their religion is the religion of the state and of globalism and of transhumanism so they want all other thought processes that don't worship them and don't put the state bureaucrats as god outlawed and we're right back to having to worship feiro instead of jojovo i don't like either and so this is the the the the prime movement the prime

initiative of the globalist is to end your right to either believe in a god or not believe in a god and make the state god so in terms of opening up churches and stuff there's actually a bit of difference of opinion on the question even among the christian community reverend lou peale wrote an op-ed in the boltmore sun arguing that the church building itself could not be the focus of the question uh or it shouldn't be at least because the people themselves are the church the people are essential whereas the building itself is important but not essential as long as there's a virus spreading that's killing people it's more important to protect them than to go to a building he cites other folks like pastor david yule who said quote what are what are the essentials god

would ask for the church we developed a series called essentials and guess what our building wasn't on them uh the greatest church is a healthy church or there's pastor zack s wine who said quote we don't prove our faith by defying orders uh in order to shake the the hand of another christian we prove our faith by denying ourselves so that we can clear the throat of a neighbor who can't breathe yeah i mean what even the even their own fucking books as uh anywhere men gather in my name i am with them or whatever it is gather digitally yeah exactly obviously there are plenty of folks who come down on the opposite side of the issue but to pretend that there isn't a voice within the christian community that the believes that uh that the suspension of in-person surfaces is

appropriate is a little bit dishonest of alex the guardian reported in early april about a suburban sacramento megachurch that didn't take warning seriously and at least 71 congregants ended up testing positive and at least one died in late march nbc news reported on an arkansas church that held an event despite warnings and the result was at least 34 congregants catching coronavirus including the pastor and his wife the pastor made a statement quote maybe you assumed that it couldn't happen to you just like i did please adhere to the social instructions that you're receiving locally and nationally and then there was bishop jerald o glenn from richmond virginia he was defiant about continuing to hold services quote unless i'm in jail or the hospital he said

quote i am essential i'm a preacher i talk to god glenn caught covid 19 and is now dead his wife also tested positive and it's hard to imagine that there aren't some other church goers who have as well glenn's daughter said quote it becomes very real to you i just beg people to understand the severity and the seriousness of this because people are saying it's not just about us it's about everyone around us there are more stories like this but i think you get the point and they're all about the same people not taking the risk seriously then when the consequences come they say i should have listened please take this seriously the goal is to hopefully never end up in a position where you have to tell people to not be like you and to take

the situation seriously that's what these people whose lives have been horribly affected by the virus are trying to communicate to the rest of us and we'd be wise to heed their words yeah i think everything that i've read though even like even most recent polls are like the overwhelming majority even among christians even among republicans even among everybody is let's stay inside and get through this shit but the single boost from every possible journalistic outlet towards these ridiculous protests yeah makes it feel like holy shit the entire right wing is is doing this when it's just a small vocal minority that keeps getting every bit of press they possibly can't and you have people like oh and say you can't get it even if you want to exactly i yeah i've seen

some of that data but i haven't looked too deeply into it so i'm not entirely sure but yeah that was the sense i'm getting that like pretty consistent polling is showing people not wanting to rush this yeah which is smart yeah which is why of course they elected people who are screaming at them that it's time to reopen hey super smart the reasons why churches would be a serious vector for virus transmission is pretty clear to anyone who thinks about it for a second there's an almost ritualized environment of shaking hands of hugging and when you consider the close seating that's almost universal and the donation basket that gets passed around you know these things could be a big problem i understand and i empathize with the people for whom going to church is a cornerstone of their lives

for a lot of people the physical church is the center of their social and emotional lives and for that to go away is really challenging i would never want to minimize that and i do want to respect it but at the same time when there are such serious stakes involved there are other ways that those needs can be met and plenty of ways that the spirituality and religion of your choice can still be practiced i really enjoyed this quote from reverend peels op ed quote the coronavirus has not canceled worship but has changed the way we worship the new normal or at least for the moment may put more emphasis on our personal relationship to our god and how each one of us chooses to worship maybe just maybe the new normal will be a positive thing that's kind of

a beautiful sentiment and i'm saying that is a completely non-religious person that is that is yeah so you know it's like all these circumstances we can get through them and they don't have any effect on what's supposed to be the cornerstone which is our own connection with the divine yeah there's there's nothing i know more than that christianity will of course be stamped out and wiped out if we have to wear masks and not go to church for a little bit christianity is not a very strong religion whatsoever how old is it it's never survived anything like this before dan yeah it's it's it's strange um but it's really like most of what alex is is getting on about and part of that is because he has an interview on this show with a pastor who just went viral for tearing

up a cease and desist order oh so strong yeah so powerful he has that guy pray just like the martyrs just like the martyrs he is yeah he has that guy pray on air it's very uncomfortable we're not going to listen to that but alex has a which again by their own bible a horrifying thing to do that god will smite you down for i believe possibly um i don't know enough about that preacher i don't care um but this uh this next clip is an unfortunately you know it appears to be a true story and you know it's a bomber and so of course churches are the most non-essential thing on earth and they're getting burned down in europe they're getting burned down in the united states one got burned down yesterday because they refused to close and a goody two shoes watching tv came and

burned it down i don't know about what he's talking about in europe necessarily but i looked into the specific about the one in the us and i'm not positive that that church was burned down you know by a goody two shoes who watches tv but unfortunately it is a real story and he's fairly close to accurate on the details at least as they're currently available this is the first pentecostal church in holly springs mississippi the church had defied local stay-at-home orders and last wednesday someone set fire to it and left a spray painted message that you stay home now you hypocrites spelled h-y-p-o-k-r-i-t-e-s was that on purpose you think i'm not sure it's a real tough misspelling yeah hmm there's some investigation that needs to be done to

nail down the culprit and all that but based on first appearances it looks like this wasn't arson committed by someone who was mad that they were defying stay-at-home orders if that's what it turns out to be then that's horrible and it's counterproductive to the aims that the potential or you know alleged arsonist seems to be motivated by burning down the church isn't going to stop them from like renting out another space and continuing to hold surfaces it's an act that's pointless wrong and probably counterproductive it's interesting to think about this though and compare it to the other instances of crimes like this and how alex responds to them whenever there's an incident of someone spraying swastikas on a jewish person's home or any of that sort of hate

crime alex will immediately and without proof say that the whole thing is fake some leftist spray paint of the swastika in order to make it look like there's actual actual nazis around basically false flag false flag you gotta make the right wing look bad yeah we have to really work hard to make the right wing look bad in this instance they haven't caught the culprit yet we just have some graffiti that indicates that the person that did did this did so because the church was defying stay-at-home orders because this incident works for alex's narratives and grants his side the status of the aggrieved party alex doesn't question this at all there's absolutely no consideration of the idea that this could be a false flag if alex was a sincere actor he

should be speculating about the possibility that some right wing stay-at-home protesters started the fire and left that message so that arson would be blamed on the folks who are in favor of the stay-at-home orders the speculation and conspiracy doesn't apply in cases like this because they don't need to speculation and conspiracy for alex are tools of right wing gun and white supremacist apologia and to be clear i'm not saying that alex should speculate this church arson was a false flag i don't think it is and i'm mostly just pointing out how weird it is that he's not playing that game here but he does in other instances that's that's uh you know if i were writing a syllabus of how to study alex jones yeah one of the things i would be is like pay attention to the way he

engages in similar stories that target different groups pay attention to that and you should learn almost everything you need to know pretty much yeah that's what i find i will be immensely annoyed if it turns out to be a false flag that will annoy the shit out of me so hard because why what are we doing come on man stop it and now this is just going to make more people think that false flags are a real thing that's a nice it's so annoying that's not a possibility you really need to take that seriously very serious investigation that'll go uh the the way it goes i didn't mean to introduce that thought into your mind no now i now i'm terrified that that's the thought okay well i just i just don't ease your mind i don't like that more just because regardless

of how it happens the church and the churchgoers and all of us are in this together yeah like that they're not they're not a problem the problem is how they got to where they are we need to focus on the propaganda and who's doing all of this and who's pushing all of these people this way why are you why would you bother with the with that that's insane yeah that doesn't make any sense that's what i'm saying it's counterproductive yeah it's ridiculous it only serves to hurt the possibility of of some sort of uh understanding yeah and better path forward yeah so you're not going to be happy about this but alex starts talking about a mod arbery again oh cool and here's here's why i think he's talking about it the situation hate yep okay also he he tells a story about going

on a walk and seeing a white guy in a like a building that's under construction and then killing that guy no no he doesn't that's one that's one major difference one major difference between the two stories okay but he's he's using that as a way to inoculate himself from a lot of the racism of the positions that he is going to express sure and i will say this up front the story about his day his walk that morning i don't believe it's true for a fucking second okay um but he's he's founded alex has found a new video um and i would say that this is not good it's not hard hitting and so coming up i've got the footage here's an example of a med arbery when he just pulls up in the park up on the curb up in the middle of the park like he's the king of earth if i pulled

up in the middle of the park over the curb and parked in the middle of the park the cops would show up like that go uh are you mentally ill why are you parked in the middle of the park why are you out of the parking lot i mean it's like and he's got his coat with his chest out and he's acting like you know he's a billionaire superstar or something messing with the police that's really asking for it this footage that alex has of a mod arbery is from 2017 and it's not like he drove his car into a park like you might imagine like right next to the jungle gym or the the the bars or whatever it's a patch of grass next to some train tracks when the police say why they're talking to him they don't say that it's because of him driving on the grass they say it's because

that's an area that's known for drug activity this is just part of alex's white identity-based propaganda work it's really important for alex to make excuses for informed conspiracies about any incidents that appear to be racially motivated violence carried out by white people because his entire worldview centers around white victimhood the actual killing looks pretty bad so alex and his ilk have decided what they need to do don't talk about you know even talk about it a little bit but you got to paint the victim as someone who had it coming of course of course that way you could pay lip service to pretending to be opposed to the killing but at the same time you don't really condemn it for what it appears to be hey he was he drove on some grass that's a

death sentence that makes him that makes sense he was wearing a coat what are you gonna do a man's wearing a coat you gotta kill him well you just gotta yeah this this is a this is proof of a deficient character of course that means he probably has to definitively obviously it's proven that he was breaking into those houses yeah that's the only thing that's the game that's being played here and again this is almost a perfect case study in alex's racism when you want to understand what makes alex such a flagrant bigot all you have to do is consider the differences and how he covers a case like this where two white men chased down an unarmed black man and killed him and how he covered the case of kate steinle where a white woman was accidentally hit by a stray bullet

that ricocheted off the ground after an immigrant unknowingly discharged a gun that he found on the ground wrapped in a rag when white people are the victims it's an anti white hate crime when white people are the perpetrator the victim wasn't so great themselves and they probably had it coming this is how this works yeah again it's about the differences you compare things that are you know hey well your coverage goes this way one time and this way the other why why is that if you have really only one explanation if you actually have a principle it does not matter the circumstances surrounding it no my principle is don't murder people that seems very simple i don't understand why you need to add other like oh well hold on this person i don't know if you

know this stole a pack of gum one time oh well never mind of course it's fine he was in a house naturally yeah fuck off yeah and so this proceeds and alex what he's doing is essentially trying to build a shitty case as to why you shouldn't care that much about amad arbery's death let me just tell you i pull up the middle of a park in the grass i'm i'm i'm wearing a fur coat with jogging pants and i'm waving arms and cussing at people and telling them f you and then they caught him with marijuana which i say they should be criminalized fine but the point is they didn't arrest him because they were politically correct ladies and gentlemen so then months later he's going in houses he's casing them out people go to stopping who the fuck are you

rest is legal let's stay holy shit he starts physically attacking him he gets killed i'm not happy this guy got killed kind of sounds like you are it's got that same whole fuck look of that white guy this weekend when i'm hiking around the woods behind a neighborhood and there's a guy in full black with a hood over his head in full like a robber outfit and i start walking towards him and the guy turns and looks at me all crazy he was a crazy looking white convict type and you're asking me how do i know a thug let me let me tell you whether a white thug or a black thug i know what a thug looks like put him back on screen they've got that dumb stupid arrogant look so the police in 2017 didn't catch arbery with marijuana amad arbery didn't allow them to search his car and the

police suspected that he had weed in his car but that's not proven nor would it matter at all in terms of the bigger conversation that's being had here alex literally says that weed should be decriminalized yet he's here using a lie about the police catching arbery with weed to paint a picture of arbery as being someone whose death is not that big a deal also the argument about citizens arrest is fucking absurd there are rules about the use of force in terms of putting someone under citizens arrest and i don't think anyone could make the argument that the circumstances here justified lethal force i would fucking love for alex to try and make that argument especially in court that would be fun the whole story alex is telling about seeing a white person

in a hoodie on his morning hike or whatever it's absolutely a fake story that alex has just concocted to allow himself to say horrible things about arbery like that he quote looks like a thug alex gives himself permission to make these very clearly racially coded attacks on a murder victim by fabricating a white person that he's also applying these labels to i know a white person by using this term to apply to both a real black murder victim an imaginary white guy alex saw this morning alex can pretend that what he's doing isn't outrageously bigoted but then it's a really but it's a really transparent oh you know there are mitigating factors that i don't have anything to do with skin color that's not what i'm talking about i mean the way it looks from where i'm sitting

is alex just wants to say that a mod arbery deserved to be killed because he was a black guy doing something suspicious but he knows that that would be too explicit he probably doesn't want to deal with the consequences of expressing those opinions yeah no it's because his case is shit like what alex is doing is shit it's insane i wouldn't i wouldn't do this no matter like okay let's do this let's do the let's do the whole opposite situation there is a white dude dressed in army fatigues carrying guns who has uh who is killed for looking like a terrorist and then we find out oh he's got a previous conviction for domestic violence and yada yada yada and all that shit that doesn't mean i want i'm okay or it's not a tragedy that he got murdered that's

still a fucking murder right it's disgusting and awful and you should just be able to fucking say this guy was murdered for being black yeah it should that's it it shouldn't be that hard to deal with the uh deal with the story on a in an honest way and it's something alex can't do no um and so in order to make this a little bit more compelling uh his angle on it he he he sort of reports on it alongside another story where a black youth beat up a guy in a nursing home which is not really related at all wow that i support though um so he here here's alex uh covering that story and it's in the same segment where he goes from talking about a mod arbery to talking about this story as almost sort of a way to be like look black people beat up old white people all the time right

let's show them the next beating up a woman punch her in the throat but it's okay because they're white and twitter's like damn right kill that cracker and it's weird white people saying it nothing like beating an Alzheimer's patient because they can't defend themselves so remember when you're warehousing your parents folks while you're off having fun you're gonna be there too what that's right beat that white cracker hoe what is happening show her and he goes on on his youtube videos explain that whites are the devil so i don't i don't know what alex is trying to prove here although that is a facetious statement i know exactly what he's trying to do yeah this story is about a 20 year old man with a history of

unspecified mental illness who was a patient at the westwood nursing center it's awful and i'm not making excuses for this kind of thing it's never okay for someone to assault another person but in this case it does appear that there are some side issues that are relevant to consider the first is the history of mental illness that was the reason this man was in the hospital to begin with the second is how much of that history was the staff of the hospital aware of and where they negligent to their monitoring or their care for him as a patient also in the video the man is clearly saying that this guy he's attacking was in his bed so it's unclear if it's appropriate to ascribe a racial motivation for this beating it very well may be the case that this guy wasn't in

his bed and he was just mad at white people that's possible i'm not sure i guess but here's the thing that guy who is hitting still alive and the attacker is facing charges for the beating yeah there are tons of stories in the media you can find about this case so earlier alex was saying that this the whole thing like no one's talking about this because it's black guy beating up a white guy that's a complete lie alex is covering the story the way he is uh because he feels that this is his trump card for people saying that the amad arbery killing was racially motivated violence they find that offensive whatever the case is with this 20 year old guy even if he did beat up this guy because he was white that has literally nothing to do with the fact of the

arbery situation also you could just hear in alex's voice how much more passionate he is about a story like this oh yeah where he gets he gets to rile up his audience on ideas of white persecution and fear it's where he feels the most comfortable which is really fucked up you know the beat that white hoe you know like you could you can hear the the the i don't know what it i don't know what it is there's an enjoyment he's he's very much amplifying the brutality one because he likes the brutality that's just kind of the brutality cells yeah exactly yeah two because he is making sure that you think look look at how brutal this black person is look at how violent they are now in the amad arbery case well hey they were protecting themselves and their neighborhood they were and

it's the community he got killed he got killed he they didn't they didn't kill him he got killed and it's a shame it's a shame i wish that it didn't happen but also he now look at this story he's 2017 this old lady white cracker oh beater beater beater like come on i think it's pretty clear it's very obvious what's going on yeah so at this point we get into the second hour of the show and alex interviews that preacher ripped up the cease and desist order it is a hero who cares saint peter i don't care about that interview saint peter so after that alex gets weird man sure i don't know if this is the effect of this guy praying on air and alex getting real spiritual but he says some things that i think are fucked up let me tell you folks i told you they were gonna

blow up the world trade center and blame it on bin laden god gave me a vision oh no and that's the little added ingredient of m4 as everybody knows about it's not just that i don't know how to politically analyze all this stuff i can get on my knees and go to that place and then the problem is you're just in god's presence you don't care that now you can actually see everything going on in the universe plugging directly into the source hey this is wolf blitzer welcome to the situation room god has given me precognition all right okay so top top story today i can see the future quick question how is this electoral college thing gonna work out let me tell you can we get rid of all your holograms and such let me have the prophetic let me get down on my knees and uh enter the zone

wolf tell me sight beyond sight uh yeah so this isn't good this is uh a guy claiming he has superpowers that god has given him listen um i think i think at any like sort of just neutral context you hear that you're like you're you're not doing well right you need uh well you know everybody wants a little little added something to their entertainment a little flavor let me tell you what's different about uh info wars from all these other dumb dumb news shows uh first of all i can uh i really know politics although i don't really understand the constitution or the things i yell about all the time i have no idea what civics are but i'm a psychic honestly not just for news that wouldn't be okay on like a reality tv show that would even be okay for the worst behaving

people on the planet we'd still be like no you got to get out of here bad i don't think i've heard anybody on like the amazing race say anything like that or survivor don't hey don't worry about this i know you're angry right now i can see the next clue we're skipping this shit god has given me the answers to the tribal councils uh in the future i can predict voting you know who's too hot to handle god yeah so that's not the only superpower alex has turns out sure we've heard of talk about precognition in the past of course of course i just i think it is a little weird over and be like god has granted me that that's weird um but he has another power i couldn't take the amount of this when i was like a little kid not a connection to god i would just wheat it was so intense now i

can i can just take it a little more but then god goes now you can take that here take this you're not ready to really see what this looks like and i can now literally stare into the minds of the enemy but and they know i can't that's why they hate me so much but i i'm like god please don't let me do it please don't let me stare they're like you're gonna you're gonna do it you're gonna look right into them and you're gonna you're gonna explain it to people so there's all the fakes in the universe folks you're not fake i'm not fake so i have now decided that if i ever do write a book about alex jones yeah alex jones reluctant telepath it's a title god is forcing me into telepathy and reading the minds of my enemies i just wish he was like a 15th century monk who could just

flagellate with a cat of nine tails that would be so much easier that's what he wants to do clearly he's forcing himself to experience a while he's interpreting it that way yeah i don't know if that's accurate but i i just wish i couldn't see what the enemy was doing so now he's psychic and he can read minds right so he's my favorite x-file he's basically professor x right yeah i mean that's basically the most powerful telepath in the world where cerebro but this this is where it all gets really funny because he says this immediately after when you look at people like hillary clinton or lord roth child or the rock of fellers or any of these people they have sold their souls they have turned themselves over and they're no longer human they have given up their

humanity and connected into something that's dead and gone and that's all they can do is i mean run around and and and convince themselves that they're special and they're powerful they run around and convince themselves they're special and powerful you just said that you're psychic and telepathic bill gates how are you doing today i'm doing wonderful mr roth child and there's alex sitting over here it's like oh i can see you i can see i can read your mind i can read your soul fucking mind i'm gonna get on the radio and tell people i have i've noon powers quit running around quit it stupid so um alex does use his psychic powers on this episode and he does give us a glimpse down the road into the future i knew trump was gonna win

when i was in 2015 the spiritual imprint the thousands of data points was just very clear that nothing is standing this way because that's how the universe works answering prayers but then once the real battle began we had to then carry it the rest of the way god doesn't win the whole game for you god will initiate things and end things what but in my experience the in between a god initiating and god ending things it's up to you god gives it to you and so i'll say this now it's taking me weeks to say this president trump is going to lose the 2020 election right now done done done change the course but right now he's going to lose for sure that carvel monster is

up there saying that fat ass is carvel rest of it and that's going to last the election everything there i got you a soul targeted tens of millions of brain washers to go knock on doors under pr company names violating campaign finance law trump let the globalists censor everything and unless trump can get the justice department if there's good people there to indict some major globalists and then he goes on the offense and rolls up some of their main opposition right now who are engaging in political crimes with the chinese government unless trump does what he's supposed to and scares this outside global's force to to make them turn and run

trump's gonna lose let me translate that trump's gonna lose unless he consolidates power prior to the election yeah that's basically what alex is saying yeah unless he strong arms his way into winning the next election he's probably going to lose even against biden point number one if trump loses it's because everybody else cheated and the election results are illegitimate canvassing is brain washers going door to door mail in ballots is cheating of course point number two right if trump starts let's say jailing his political opponents you know that's not because he's consolidating power although he is consolidating power but it's mainly because he's getting rid of evil people that's the only way he can defeat the global

is exactly in order to stop authoritarianism we must act the authoritarian it's the only way right yeah this is a good plan it's always worked love it it's never happened before i'm sure this is the first time anybody's tried isn't alex a prequels guy he really loves emperor palpatine so in this next clip alex plays a clip of trump talking about how he's gonna override the governors if they don't open up churches i'm gonna do some unconstitutional shit alex seems to have an interesting take on it love it the governors need to do the right thing and allow these very important essential places of faith to open right now for this weekend if they don't do it i will override the governors in america we need more prayer not less thank you very much oh my god

this is you see the rebellion is on ladies and gentlemen the rebellion is on you should be really against that alex the rebellion is on what are we doing so what are we fucking doing yeah i am going to take extreme ultimate executive power into my hands just like the constitution says i should because i disagree with things that states are doing congress shall make no law over right so in this next clip this is a long clip i'm gonna warn you about that in advance okay and it's because i wanted everyone to have a taste of what this episode was like and i thought that this was the most entertaining and also vapid stretch alex plays some techno music and rants about the devil love it and this is nothing this is just this is a fucking asshole filling time yeah free will

must be tested free will become kim jong-un we don't want to be kim jong-un no kim jong-un and it's that nexus point between free will and god's consciousness that god could make perfect robot all day long that carried out whatever tasks god wanted nexus robots created new little jeeps who if they pass the tests one day will stand on the same horizon for the creator of all time that's not done by supercomputers that's not done by mad scientist that's not done by larry page or sir j brinn that is orchestrated by the creator of the universe god not gates is where we are now

this planet is going to burn the seeds are going to boil it's toasty is going to crack oh you said it was long you said it was long you really think that's how this dream goes no you are cut off from god so you imagine a godhead you imagine a ai system that surveils all humanity you imagine omnipresence because you and your ancestors refused omnipresence what the interface with a godhead did we ejected god and so when fell oh you could have risen from the very beginning but instead you chose to climb down a hole with that devil and in that nest you believe that you would create valhalla as if it didn't know that he exists what are we doing

if it wasn't already valhalla is real this giant universe believe you believe you were king believe you were the author of the universe but all you were was a potential for consciousness to absorb and gaze sure i'm so high but you rejected the very force that created you naturally and so because of that that's why they call you the fall because without the wind a kite can't fly oh oh man music's gone that would have been a great drop there is no humanity and you believe you can cut off the universe and say that you are a god an amazing discussion when they yell it to the goblin that alan dirshawits has is okay that reminds me that's the whole break have you ever heard that god speed you black emperor song

uh they they've got this overlay of an interview with the sovereign citizen guy and he's just going over he's like and i got this ticket and i went to the court and i went to the judge and i said listen i'm not going to take your shit and all the while playing underneath it is just some swelling god speed you black emperor music and god it would be so much better if it was alex it would be so much better possibly but like that was uninspired as hell so insane that was a very bland alex rant but like why why are you doing that other than you enjoy talking over music like that's the only thing that is yeah and i love just the like uh-oh ran out of music and then like ten seconds later the outro music later yeah he's like all right we're gonna be back

we're talking talk to somebody who talked to david horowitz all right alan dirshawits i believe excuse me the dirsh yeah oh boy so stupid that's that's pretty great yeah but i wanted i i feel like that clip is probably a little bit painful and i'm sorry to subject the listeners to that but wanted you to feel it i wanted to feel it because this episode is a lot there's a bit of that in this that's like uh and honestly like so i wasn't even going to cut that clip at all i was just listening to it like the his rant slowly losing about a minute in i was like wow he's still going yeah how about that another minute later like this is not going anywhere this is this is really treading water here third minute in i'm falling asleep you know i realize i gotta cut all of this

it i gotta i gotta show i gotta tell the people it turns out i am a psychic too because i knew that was going down what it was too long it was too long yeah so in this next clip alex comes back and he talks about how he knew what trump was gonna say at the inauguration sure right um and he gets into how a little bit later and it's troubling i was there on january 20th 2017 when president trump was inaugurated president and i tweaked wrong trump will invoke the secret technologies that are suppressed trump will invoke americanism not globalism trump will invoke humanity and truly are march the stars and after the speech trump gave the major new york times rider comes up and he goes and he was one of their people he was like he was just like how did you know that

are you talking to him today this is totally a true story what he'd say and he knew he knew it's really goes he was just his hate being cut off from god was so intimate he sounds like a very true story does they want to build that without god and they don't have it the real internet yeah so that yeah i don't i don't believe that story that's a true story you know how the new york times so quarters growl at alex they can't stop themselves and anytime they get too close to his presence they begin to growl he's overflowing with god um oh boy don't believe that i wonder if they just called him for a comment would they still growl at him or probably the distance doesn't matter also um how does that come with those miracle cures those those technologies

that we're going to be revealed i wasn't i wasn't even going to point that out right there's just no point right so alex complains uh this next clip about uh the un is in control of everything and then he says that hydroxychloroquine is good we're under you in control you turn seeing it on they tell you the un runs things the un says hydroxychloroquine doesn't know the un says zinc sucks the un says you don't need vitamin c oxygen or water they don't say that but also bad news for alex on the hydroxychloroquine front how's it going so on the very day he's doing this episode may 22nd lancet published a paper that looked at the fatality rates across six continents of people who were taking hydroxychloroquine for covet 19 right according to a guardian

article about this paper quote the death rate among all groups taking the drugs was higher than among people who were not given them that's because it's too good a cure one in six of those taking one of the drugs died while one in five died if they were taking chloroquine with an antibiotic and one in four if they were on hydroxychloroquine and an antibiotic the death rate among patients not taking the drugs was one in 11 this wasn't a formal study so there aren't variable controls in place so the differences in death rates may not be as big as those numbers suggest but quote the u.s authors of the studies say allowing for these differences there was still higher mortality among those taking the drugs more and more evidence is mounting that this is not a

good drug to be boosting for covet treatment and yet alex is still on that hill he's so desperate to defend the stupid things trump says that he's willing to support an unproven treatment that could kill people rather than just say hey look trump is off base on this one i don't know what he's doing it's really sad it's really sad he's like for someone who's like you know i'm a free thinker i'm outside the box all you sheeple all you people that followers see i will do literally anything the definition of a follower yeah it's very sad very sad it's you know like remember all the drugs that are developed over time with the input of scientists and uh they aren't just like a politician comes out and says take them those are all the good drugs oh those are all the good

ones it's an interesting axiom yeah it's but when the politician comes out and says just take this not good it's bad i'm gonna go i'm just gonna say that right now i didn't learn that i didn't learn that in the civics class that i didn't take now i know but the first words of the constitution our congress shall make no law restricting the president from pushing some bullshit on people alex does say that the president has free speech there you go cool so um in this next clip jordan i know you're probably wondering how did alex know what trump is going to say at the inauguration was not wondering you weren't no i don't need to call trump up over a telephone

and you see trump is the oracle somebody slapped him presents our dreams our hopes what we want he is picking it up that's why you've got to pray for trump and then pray for how you want god to influence trump because trump's in the middle we're here what god's up here you can reverse it we're here trump's here guys there and trump knows that he knows that what knows that you don't even know that trump loves god now oh boy oh boy i'm so scared okay now here's a big issue yeah if he can talk to trump without the use of a phone he's definitely implying telepathic communication he is a national security risk no doubt he is he's got all of the secrets he can just telepath in there at all the

time no other countries need to be kidnapping alex jones and raiding his mind for all of trump's secrets no because trump doesn't have secrets his mind is just like a couple of dolphins juggling ice cream cones or something you know alex tries to read his mind to find the nuclear codes and he's like what the fuck is this what is this a betty boop cartoon what is going on that's uh that's what it's happening with alex gets telepathic with trump mickey mouse starts whistling in the corner yeah so yeah alex is definitely implying that there's a telepathic connection with him and trump which is upsetting very strongly very upsetting yeah and then the other thing that's super upsetting there is that he's he's definitely saying that god is here we're

here and trump is in the middle right and that seems to be where jesus is i mean that's one thing to consider but another thing to consider is like this is basically like kingshit you know like this is the this is this is what you you say about like someone who's divinely ordained to be your ruler yep or they're a conduit through which god speak and you know what i mean that's exactly what like the early early church was with the the priest was the only one who could speak to god he would convey the messages from the holy of holies like well hell it was only two japanese emperors ago and they were the conduit for god so yeah it's it's uh it's definitely not like a republic uh democratic republic uh view of the ruler it is hard it's it's it's tough to square

that with anything um that our country is based on it's hard to justify a peaceful transition of power away from god's chosen president well it would have to imply that it's does god choose a new one well i mean there's two possibilities either he has lost the will of god right mandate of heaven whoever wins gets it of course the mandate of heaven is so flimsy that it can be undone by human machinations god doesn't really have much of a much of a swing on this one apparently he can be he can be knocked out every four years but i mean if alex is if alex is there i mean what are we doing like this this guy is a salad like yeah so far beyond the the realm of acceptable beliefs yeah no this is for uh yeah it's uh he should uh he should be ashamed yeah so alex

plays that clip uh i believe this is where he uh he he does this again he plays the clip of uh trump talking about opening up the churches and man this is a funny alex's interpretation of this is real funny the governors need to do the right thing and allow these very important essential places of faith to open right now here's the key for this weekend if they don't if they don't do it i will override the governors in america we need more prayer not less and pause thank you did you just hear that he's never said override governors back that up 20 seconds he just the only way the federal government can override is if it is the first or second amendment or fourth or fifth and a few others what he's getting really good at what are you fucking talking about what about the third

what are you fucking talking about the only don't go government only the first or a few amendments only a few amendments allow the government to do what are we doing i don't know what are we fucking doing alex is making shit up jesus christ he's making stuff up in order to try and make it appear like this isn't a contradiction of his like really extreme tenth amendment shit from back in the uh the earlier days when obama was president yeah that's all that's going on here like it's just a shitty shoddy rationalization of a complete flip flop on his part in order to you know serve at the boots of trump i remember shame remember shame shame shame was good shame i liked shame when people experience shame for saying shit like that and they were like

whoa i feel physically bad after saying something that completely compromised everything i've ever espoused in my entire life i feel bad about that yeah apparently we are not there anymore and you can just say that shit and feel free and rolic like your lord roth's child stew yeah man it's uh well it's bad i mean we've covered a large part of that like 2009 period on the show where he was like yeah exactly he was he was having state legislators on regularly who were pushing tenth amendment uh resolutions he was he was talking about like a constitutional convention yeah like that kind of thing like it's it's it's ridiculous you look at this picture of this this broken down loser that he is in 2020 it's just like god damn man you would hate yourself

yeah like there's no other way to put it a decade ago you would be your own worst enemy yeah you would be the person that like glenn beck would be second to your future to you yeah yeah it's very sad yeah i can't imagine it would be difficult to put together a what like a debate between new alex and old alex and just have them argue with each other all day i hate that you said that because now i'm thinking don't do it don't no no that's that is for that is for a an enterprising document here yeah i don't have the time yeah although i bet it will go viral see this is why we are bad this is why we're really bad at what we do we're bad at strategies we focus on putting out three twelve hour episodes per week instead of making one thing that will go viral that's an

issue for us that is a problem so um on our last episode on friday we had a weird clip where alex said that he prayed with somebody and then he was like i can't get into it i can't get into it i mean this comes up again i prayed with a very prominent person several well the devil and i told you this first time trump like four years ago was telling me how much he loved jesus and tell me how much you love god and i thought it was patrick get the fuck out of here come on man he wasn't patronized come on come on guys we all know the score and just like they could find it melania when we come back for the next guest what when she when they were threatening

trump threatening to kill him everything and she goes i'm sure she likes like say the lord's prayer i was like it was like uh i know she was gonna do that because there are no atheists in fox halls ladies and gentlemen that they doesn't exist i think that's i think that's just the same yeah there are a lot oh yeah yeah so i think i still think it's roger i think that's right it has to be roger yeah i don't know why he's playing it so close to the vest i don't know probably because they also committed a crime during that prayer maybe hey is that like a attorney client uh privilege stuff hey you can't get me you can't get me for a crime i was praying i was praying at the time i congress shall make low law restricting my prayer for crimes sure sure we play in the

crime but i hadn't said amen so it's unadmissible report first amendment grounds yeah i don't know because alex has talked bluntly about praying with roger yeah bringing roger to god yeah in the past so it doesn't seem like he would be playing this game where on multiple episodes he's like i can't say who it was right if it was roger but maybe he's just not supposed to maybe that's some i think you probably forgot that i'm not allowed to talk about roger anymore no i bet that he forgot that he said that about roger oh that's possible he thinks he hasn't brought it up that's possible that's what i bet it yeah yeah yeah so we know that alex is really bad with thomas jefferson quotes but how does he do with quotes is he really good with him no he's not he's very bad with him

how does he do with quotes from outside of the united states well if it's a non-white person i bet he's going to attribute it to a white person there's no choice in this ladies and gentlemen you choose god or you choose eternal death you think you're on this planet and have this consciousness this is some kind of damn game you think it's about watching tv and no man this is about your soul you're a sentient creature you have like mahamad ghandi said who is a hindu but i understood his perspective is totally true what are you soul is the seed of the universe has the potentiality of the universe well that is absolutely true you think about that and then you start playing games very weird okay i don't think that's a real ghandi quote i tried to find it i can't find it anywhere

i i i have no idea i don't know any ghandi quote that's uh we are our souls are the seeds of the universe or doesn't sound like what he was uh he was talking about so now i i i looked for that i i couldn't i couldn't find anything i don't i don't know if it's a real quote but if it is it's i i can't find it i do i i know alex's batting average is so bad i can't imagine it's it's real and i just can't find it but i'm also not going to spend like five hours trying to track down right all right uh some quote i like swinging and just throwing it at uh ghandi's feet sure like that sounds great like uh everybody knows sometimes you want to go where everybody knows your name ghandi boom yeah that one that one is real that one's real i found that one so alex ends his uh

run here with uh interview with again named jason goodman who runs his own youtube show about nonsense sure um and uh maybe we'll talk about him at some point in the future aren't we at war with youtube what i mean aren't isn't alex and joe rogan and everybody at war with youtube why are they talking to youtube people you know what i'm saying well because they have audiences oh that's probably a good reason yeah and so anyway this does he's the guy who interviewed uh dershowitz okay um in that interview that alex got super pissed off about right and started screaming about how he's a fucking piece of shit right right right so he there's a shit yeah like yeah so they they end up talking a bit about uh dershowitz's answers about epstein and stuff like that and

how he didn't have anything to do with it of course not according to to him and of course he not oh yeah right i don't sure i don't i don't care about um alex interviewing the guy who interviewed a guy i don't care i don't care if i cared i'd go watch uh goodman's interview that would make sense and we would just go from there that would make more sense yes this second hand nonsense is no good for me but there's a couple of things maybe just one thing that stuck out to me that i thought was interesting they're not allowed to bypass animal trials under federal law how how is this happening how is moderna meaning the mother in spanish and these other three companies what do we do the gates doing human testing in the united states right now so moderna means modern

in spanish madre means mother yes moderna means mother no no madre moderna also there isn't a law about animal trials it's it's just normal operating procedure for vaccine development to use animal trials but it's not the law yeah from an article in stat news quote regulators require that man manufacturers show a product is safe before it goes into people and while it isn't enshrined in law researchers almost always check that a new concoction is effective in lab animals before putting human volunteers a potential risk alex are just making up that there's a law but it's definitely uncommon these are uncommon circumstances we're in right now and i'm not going to sit here and deny that there are potential dangers that could come from skipping any kind of

step in normal processes and i'm not sure i'm certainly not in a position where i have enough awareness to understand what kind of calculus people are making like what could we learn from the animal trials that we might not be they gotta add in how cruel our animal trials period what should we be doing to factor those out as a whole possibly i don't know enough but i know that from reading a number of articles on this there's no law alex is making that up and people who have familiarity with the topic understand or at least they're expressing that if you go the normal route it'll be 10 years before there's a vaccine on this and you don't want to wait 10 years do you so i don't know i mean i certainly don't but i also i don't know what the risks are you

know like right right right if there is a situation where skipping those steps ends up putting us in a position where something really unexpected and negative happens and i i think it is better to take your time to do things right for sure but at the same time i'm not sitting here thinking like whatever vaccine they do end up developing is going to be intrinsically dangerous right or anything it seems like i trust i trust that people who this is their lives yeah they they understand those concerns that i might think of in my head right and generally when i try and look for perspective on those things all the questions that i have are pretty well already discussed yeah yeah it seems like now i'm just i'm just spitballing here you and i probably

aren't the guys to make that kind of call no because we don't really know enough about it it's not our area of expertise nope and you would say that uh that would be true for many people so what we should do is allow people for whom that area is their expertise to make those decisions that makes sense right sure i think we can all agree that that's a good idea so why can't we agree that that's a good idea because some people are angry so in one last clip here and it's uh it's a i don't know i was going to say it's a rare glimpse into alex being a bad boss but that's not true that's not we see a fair amount of that bad boss on the daily but this one is particularly uh awful because the way in which he's being a bad boss is actually kind of

it kind of undercuts some of his beliefs uh in love for this country i'm sure it's coming up i'll be back this sunday by the way um four to six p.m central i'm doing that sunday show live the crew is trying to talk me how to do a memorial day live so they get a day off but uh we'll we'll we'll see what happens with that yeah well i bet you're gonna be there on memorial day and making your staff work oh man i love this country so much you think you're gonna get a day off just for what memorial day i don't even know what this day is about but memorialize this day on my broadcast or i'm gonna yell at weirdos yeah oh boy so i don't know man this this episode as a whole really wasn't like that great yeah um but the the the fact that he did the like the rogan first of

all had a left-wing dude on his show and explicitly said that alex was lying yeah um that necessitated keeping us in the uh the alex right and i mean like hey we just learned that alex is a telepath and a psychic and that he believes that he's telepathically connecting with trump if we got to sit through a three minute rant about the devil to get there i think it's worth it because it adds so much to our world now so what so do you think he's what do you think his favorite x file is do you think he's an x file is the last stand guy or a logan guy or what kind of x file are we dealing with for him do you think he goes for the x file days of future past do you think he's that kind of i think his favorite x file is uh um uh captain america there's a lot of guns on that right

sure there are a lot of guns yeah that's my sense yeah that's that's a gun one yeah so we'll be back jordan but until then we have a website we do have a website it's alexfight.com yep we have a twitter we are twitter it's at go to bed jordan and that underscore knowledge fighter knowledge underscore fight yep we're also on facebook we are a facebook do tell us show go it seems really really and if you would like uh please find a local charity in your area and donate to it yep we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx glark i am the juiciest ice cube andy in chansas you're on the air thanks for holding hello alex i'm a first-name caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you