Knowledge Fight - #464: July 31-August 1, 2020

Episode Date: August 3, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss the end of the past week on The Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex warns of imminent "antifa terrorist attacks" that never ended up happening, and signs off on Steve Pieczenik saying that America is a business and that liberty is nonsense.

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. DBR Dan Jordan Jordan. Quick question. What's up? What's your right spot today? Well, Lay's potato chips. Lay's potato chips. Well you know I'm a guy who likes novelty flavors. You like you like a novelty flavor. I was able to find a couple of new varieties of Lay's chips. They got I bought two flavors. I've not tried the New York pizza one yet. Okay, mostly out of fear. Is it small? Is it thinner than the Chicago pizza? I don't know. Yeah, it's a smaller bag. Yeah. Okay, but I have

tried the Nashville hot chicken flavor. Yes. So you gave me a chip and it is shockingly accurate dead on. It tastes really very similar. It's it's kind of freaked me out when I had one. I don't like it. You told me you liked it. I did it first. Yes, I did it first and then I ate more of them and I stopped liking them. I think it's too much. The flavor is good, but it's too much as a chip. Yeah, but I still think consider it a bright spot because I admire the accuracy of the flavor and the swinging for it. I agree. I agree. We'll see you how it goes with the pizza one, but good job Lay's. Yeah, no. When you gave me one, I was like this takes exactly like Nashville hot and this was a great chip and I never want to eat another one for the rest of my life. Check

it off the box. Exactly. I did it. What about you? For me, my bright spot is I got to spend a little time with my family today and we went to a place where it's like it's like bowling, but it's golf. You know, you get your own little lane mini golf and then not kind of, but you you like try and hit these targets. You know you aim for these big. Yeah, basically frisbee golf, but with actual but with golf and no not putting like hitting the ball with the with the other. So it's like frisbee golf, but golf. So it's called frisbee golf. Yeah, weird, really, really terrible. I hate golf, but you know it was it was there was interesting parts of it. They gamified a terrible game. Oh, and yeah, it was all right. That sounds fun. They were there. Everybody's talking. The

music was loud. It was wonderful. Hey, good time. Yeah, it was great. All right. Yeah. So Jordan, yes, sir. We got an interesting little bit of time was that to talk about. Okay. Today we're going to be going over the July 31st and August 1st. Twenty twenty episodes. The Alex Jones show. I'm Dan. This is 2020 August 1st. If you'll recognize is a Saturday Alex did an emergency Saturday episode that Saturday episode. Yep. And I was planning on ignoring Friday. I was planning on ignoring all of this quite frankly. Things things get pretty serious. Okay, Alex has some pretty serious news that he has to deliver and it's a lot of nonsense and it took a pretty long time, but I was able to figure out what was going on here. All right, but before we get down

to business on this episode, Jordan, we take a moment to say thank you to some folks who signed up in our sporting the show. So first, fatigue, F U T T I G U E. Thank you so much. You are now next. Oh, you like this one. Duna bomber. Thank you so much. You are now policy one. I'm a policy one. Thank you. Duna bomber. I have a lot of thoughts about your manifesto. Save it for a party. All right. Finally, I'd like to thank you to a couple of people who donated on elevated love and appreciate that very much. So first, Casey to T O O. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. Alicia are. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat and will Kay. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Crikey, Mike. That's fantastic. Have yourself

a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro? We got to go full tilt buggy on this Watson. All right. Let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin. Why are you pimp so good? My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you. Thank you so much. Casey to thank you so much, Alicia. And thank you so much. Well, yes, thank you very much. All of you. Yeah, if you're thinking, Hey, I enjoy this joy. I'd like to support with these gents too. You can do that by going to our website, knowledge fight calm, clicking the button that says support the show. We would appreciate it. That would be wonderful. Or you could take that generosity put it in a spindle about that. Okay, in a spindle. All right. Tie it to a little stick.

Walk on over to your nearest charity outpost because this is the 1910s apparently. Sure. Walk on over there, drop that spindle and give people some goodwill. Sure. Yeah. I think that's a great, great way to go. I like it. Although I was distracted because anytime I hear the word spindle, I can't think can't help but think of a friend of mine from Missouri who described like a sort of poser bohemian types. Yeah, walking around with a motherfucking kindle in a spindle. That's not bad. That is a good line. That's a good line. Yeah, that's stuck with me for years. I like it. So, Jordan, today we're going to be getting into some business. Alex is declaring some news that now being as we're recording this on Sunday afternoon evening, we know did not happen.

Oh, no. And so we'll get to some of that falsifiable stuff. But I thought that we should do something we don't do very often and I just follow up on some other stories that Alex has recently reported on where he got them completely wrong. All right. I like this. I feel like there might be some value in beginning this episode today by taking a look at a couple of stories from the past week or so that he covered and made completely unfounded assertions about which have turned out to be complete nonsense. Okay. The first story I'm going to check in on was the Twitter hack that happened a little while back where verified accounts like Obama and Elon Musk, they had their accounts taken over and they were used to run a Bitcoin scam. Sure. Back on July

17th, Alex covered the story and this is how he presented it. When the Twitter hack happened, I recognized it was a message right away by who got hit. Yeah. Clearly, the Bitcoin scam was just a cover for who was really behind it, what was going on. And you better believe it's patriots inside US intelligence agencies. On July 31st, NBC eight out of Tampa reported on the arrest of a 17 year old Floridian dude named Graham Clark, who is accused of masterminding the hack. From the article, quote, the charges he's facing include one count of organized fraud, 17 counts of communications fraud, one count of fraudulent use of personal information with over $100,000 or 30 or more victims, 10 counts of fraudulent use of personal

information and one coin count of access to computer or electronic device without authority. Okay. So what did he do wrong? Well, Clark was one of three suspected individuals in the scheme. The others being a 22 year old named Nima Fazzelli, aka Rolex and a 19 year old from the United Kingdom named Mason Shepard, aka Che Juan. All right, I'm on their team so far. I have no idea why this article makes a big deal of their aliases, but they're fun. Yeah. Yeah. Clark's arrest affidavit claims that he managed to get access to these Twitter accounts by lying to a Twitter employee and pretending he was a coworker in IT. I feel like they're the ones who've committed the crime quote Clark used social engineering to convince a Twitter employee that he was a

coworker in the IT department and had the employee provide credentials to access the customer service portal. From the appearances of the information that's come out about this investigation so far, it looks like an almost impressively simple scam and one that is nuts to think actually worked. There's no evidence to support Alex's fabricated coverage of the story, but honestly, the other story he's lied about is much worse. Okay. On July 25th, protester Garrett Foster was shot and killed in Austin. Alex has falsely reported on the story in order to justify Foster's killing and that's awful. The thing I want to focus on, however, is what Alex said on the July 30th show about the identity of the person who shot Foster. They have armed vehicles going around

with men in pickup trucks, stopping traffic in downtown Austin, other areas pointing guns at people, and the police are being told to stand down. One man who kept doing this in front of police headquarters in front of the city council was shot dead last weekend when he pulled a gun on a man in his car while they had it blocked off and the man was pointing an AK-47 at the innocent citizen. We still don't know the man's name who turned himself into police and was released. Probably not white is the reason that they're not releasing the information. He's only making about race war. This is a very standard trick of white supremacist and white nationalist commentators. Whenever there's a crime committed and the identity of the perpetrator is not

announced, it's a default position for them to insist that it has to be because the perpetrator is a non-white person and that doesn't fit the narrative that the media wants to push. This itself is a narrative that these racists want to push, namely that there's a cover-up of crimes being committed by minorities, which is part of the intentional plan to demonize white people. You see this all over the white identity spectrum, and no matter how many times their speculation is wrong, they never stop pulling this move. On July 31st, the man who shot Garrett Foster identified himself. His name is Daniel Perry. He is an active duty sergeant in the U.S. Army stationed at Fort Hood. He claims that he shot Foster in self-defense and that Foster

pointed his rifle at him. Alex has made this claim, but the evidence that I've seen provided doesn't seem to support this argument, namely that he pointed his rifle at Perry. If that is the case, he definitely shouldn't have done that, but I do think the argument of self-defense becomes a little bit murky when prior to the alleged self-defense you drove your car into a crowd of people. It could easily be argued, it seems to me, that if Foster did point his gun at the car, that could be an act of self-defense and defense of the people who could have been run over. I don't think this case is as cut and dry as to hinge on whether or not Foster pointed his gun at the car, as if that determines whether it was okay to shoot him or not.

No, no, whoever lives was the one who acted in self-defense. That makes perfect sense. I don't think it's that simple, and I don't think like even if there were to be evidence that he had his rifle raised, it justifies shooting him once you've already reached that point. You know, if I was holding a rifle and a car was barreling towards me through a bunch of other people right at me, I would probably throw the rifle away and apologize gracefully. That sounds right. I don't know, and I think I'll, you know, there'll be some more information and we'll see at that point. Sure. From everything I can tell, it was absolutely wrong for Perry to shoot Foster and it was further wrong for Perry to drive into a crowd of protesters.

I don't, I just, when I say more informational come out, what I mean is I don't know how the law will see it and how the investigation itself will shake out and I can't make a prediction on that front. Our show is about Alex and his coverage though. So it should be pointed out that Daniel Perry is a white dude. He's a 33 year old white dude in the army. So Alex's speculation was completely baseless and actually it's just the product of his editorial position that's based in racism and white identity. Yep. It was more important for Alex to push the notion that there's a cover-up of minority involved crime to his audience than it was to deal with the story on its merits and through the lens of reality. It should be mentioned that Daniel Perry almost certainly only identified

himself on Friday because certain protest communities online had figured out who he was and they were posting his name. Sure. It wasn't too hard to identify him though since he was in his car which has license plates. Wow. Perry tried to delete his social media but people had already taken screenshots of things like him responding to a June 19th tweet that Trump had put out saying, quote, any protesters, anarchists, agitators, looters or lowlifes who are going to Oklahoma, please understand you will not be treated like you have been in New York, Seattle or Minneapolis. It will be a much different scene. Hmm. To that tweet Perry replied, quote, send them to Texas. We'll show them why we say don't mess with Texas. Odd. There's some other pretty strong

indications that have been dug up that he harbored some violent inclinations toward protesters and support for Trump which calls into question his intentions when driving into a march of protesters. I'll wait until there's more concrete information on this to make a more complete determination but from the information I can find it's hard to not feel like this guy should at least tried for murder. Whether or not convicted probably should see the inside of a courtroom. Now the tweet sounds bad from the angle but maybe he was just referencing the original meaning of the slogan. Don't mess with Texas litter. Don't litter. You know he was like send all these protesters to Texas and we'll teach them not to litter. Maybe I think this is a great guy. So the larger

point I mean murder never mind the larger point here and the one that I want to make is that Alex tried to pretend that the shooter was secretly a non white person. So the media was covering up his identity when in reality the shooter was a white army sergeant who seems to share some of the political beliefs that Alex espouses regularly. Yeah. And I have to say I'm shocked. So we start here on the 31st which is Friday and man you know how like I don't know if you're a band and you have one hit you better open your fucking show with that hit or close it or open and close it with the encore. Yes. Totally. Alex is the same thing man. By the way that there's so much huge news that I have been dealing with it. I was shown secret

documents yesterday that I'm not allowed to show you on air. Convenient. About how this Saturday they're planning to take over the police station and burn it down that they're actually trafficking this at meetings run by the Democrats. I mean hell the city councils they're going to blow it up blow up the police station how that's public. And now they're going to have overwatch snipers all over on top of parking garages that they're planning to shoot police and citizens if anyone stops Antifa taking control of major roads and setting up checkpoints. I'm not kidding. So you're going to have UT tower shootings this weekend I guess. So Alex at least got to the story almost immediately after saying I'm having

trouble getting to the I have such huge news. I can't really get to it. Never get to it. Anyways I got some secret documents. Here's the news right secret documents say that Antifa is going to set up roadblocks and snipers and all this. Well this weekend as somebody who is here on Sunday. I can tell you that unfortunately Austin has been taken over by a nebulous Antifa at press time it is not and actually I know what he's talking about now. But you would never know if you just listen to the thirty first. Sure. You have to listen to or like dig into it. You have to listen to his show on Saturday or go down an insane rabbit hole in order to figure out what he's talking about. Okay. At this point I you couldn't you couldn't tell. Yeah. You wouldn't

be able to tell just for this show. All right. But apparently this weekend the plan is that Antifa is going to take over six police stations. I love it around the country. They're going to occupy them. Yes. From coast to coast. From border to border. From the sea to shining sea. The deep state globalist controlled Democrats are planning this weekend the takeover of at least six more city police departments starting with an attack plan this Saturday night. Now it's exposing this may have them back down. You'll say oh fake news from Jones but you've already seen the takeover police departments and isn't it fun how this is just now all of a sudden completely non falsifiable. We can be here on Sunday and be like haha none of this happened. But Alex will

just say oh yeah because I talked about it. We're the heroes here coming out here and publicizing this. Yeah. What a what a week what a week boring bullshit. Yeah. I mean this this this whole thing is just it's a trick. It's a it's a it's a parlor trick. You might as well be asking you what your card is. Yeah. Yeah. Reporting on this kind of news where it's like Antifa is going to take over six police stations this weekend. We have secret deep inside sources and documentation but it probably isn't going to happen because I'm saying right. I think the thing that most Schrodinger's revolution. Right. I think the thing that most people don't get about fascist propaganda is that it's also an act of permission because no matter like the the TV media they jerk

off to violent protests. That's what they want. They don't go to peaceful protests. They don't go to the millions of peaceful protests that happen all the time. They go to the violent protest. So they're portraying protesters as violent. The right wing fascist propaganda is portraying and and even insisting that protesters are violent. Protesters don't have a win here. So you might you get permission. Fuck them up. So yeah. Yeah. There there's that element to it. But it even beyond it being permission to it's like like it's it's a trick. It is it isn't totally. It's an absolute trick. There's nothing that can be done with the way Alex is reporting here. Exactly. No matter what happens the next day at the end of the weekend he has a narrative

that he can move forward with. Yep. And that's that's just a dumb game. Yeah. It's three card money. Yeah. You're not going to win. Yeah. Okay. Nothing happens. I stopped it. I stopped it. Something happened. I told you so. And it's something that is completely unrelated to what he's saying is going to happen. Happens like oh they changed the plan to change the plan. Yeah. It doesn't matter. Three card money. Yeah. They might as well be saying nothing or they're going to nuke a city. Oh wait. He always does say that's true. Yeah. How was Chicago doing? Oh nuked. Oh god damn it. So anyway there's secret documents from the very scared. I have been shown by the APD. They have asked that we not actually show the documents themselves

because you can tell what unit and groups they are. But the police think you have a right to know about this. They have overwatch already with Antifa in apartments in high rises on balconies but mainly in parking garages like their army special operations command or something. And they are going to have men in pickup trucks that are already out there practicing setting up checkpoints, shutting down roads and ordering people to roll down their windows and pledge allegiance to Antifa like this individual was doing a week ago who got shot and killed downtown. Now they are famous for pledges. Sergeant who was doing his second job, driveshare, you know food delivery, rideshare and food delivery. They're announcing that witnesses

that he indeed did aim a gun at him so the army sergeant shot him five times in the chest to protect his own life. So yeah so now Alex has learned that who the shooter was in the Austin situation and you know instead of being like hey sorry I speculated that it was a non-white person and there's a racist conspiracy to cover up crimes being done by non-white people. Sorry that I played into that racist trope that was really inappropriate. Turns out it was just self-defense. Sure, so that'll be the new narrative is just like complete self-defense argument because he found out oh it's a white guy who's in the army and has right wing beliefs. Oh of course he was just good you know. You know it's great to see Alex really supporting a member of the United States

military murdering a civilian. You know that wouldn't if Obama's military had done that I'm sure he would feel the same way about that self-defense. Well I mean if he had right wing beliefs he probably would probably yeah. So anyway big false flags coming my mind. Sure of course. And so this is the type of time you're going to see bigger false flag event type things happen but I can tell you right now ladies and gentlemen that communist forces that's what Antifa is in the Soros funded Democrat Party funded combine are planning assaults on new police stations and federal buildings tonight all across the United States and when the Austin police bring photos and video of this to the mayor's office they are told you are to stand down. I've seen the photos I've seen the

videos I've seen the internal memorandums this is happening for sure. Well didn't. Are you sure? Yep. Okay. I do like the image of this cop like walking into the mayor's office mayor be like you stay down. These are our communist foot soldiers. Really imagine him kicking the door in right. He's got to kick the door in you sir. You. How dare you. How dare you. You pledge allegiance to Antifa. I will not. Just one tear rolling down the cop's edge taking off his badge setting it on the desk. Don't mess with Texas. Bunch of nonsense. Anyway it didn't happen. So I guess Alex stopped it but like Alex has got this information and apparently everyone else has got it to all the other media has gotten this

and the rest of the press is being given this information. Of course they're not reporting it because they're little toadies and well after all the cops deserve to be shot in the back of the head and you know the police station deserves to be blown up. It's in the official city council budget to bomb with a controlled demolition as a symbol of stopping police hate. So I mean if they're publicly saying in the city council blow up the police station what do you think's going on. So there's going to be a back to blue demonstration this Saturday. I think Owen and Savannah Hernandez are going to be going. I don't want to go and overshadow it because it's not my

rolling around downtown in the armored vehicle because we need one because we're getting shot out here. I don't want to overshadow this by showing up in a tank. Yeah. Good call Alex. Good call you dick. I do love the image that like Alex is trying to present of like the city council. You know what they did is they decided they're going to blow up the police with a controlled demolition. Right. Right. But he still is presenting it as sort of like this this this like sort of weatherman style. They're not going to do one of those implosions where it all falls down in a reasonable manner. They're going to. It's going to be a big mushroom cloud project may covering all over Austin. Yeah. Yeah. It's going to happen. Yeah. He's editorializing a

little bit about this suggestion lesson. We talked about that on the last episode so we don't need to get too deep into that again. In this next clip Alex explains the cities that are going to be targeted by this antifa attack that he has secret documents. Right. All about. Well this is the time for all good men and women to come to the other country. And so wherever you are around the country but if you're in Milwaukee or you're in Austin Texas or you're in Phoenix Arizona or you are in Los Angeles California or you're in New York City or you're in Miami. Phoenix. These are some of the towns that Antifa says they're going to take over the police stations and burn them down Saturday night. And as you've seen they've done it all over the country.

So you should probably take them at their word. Past behavior is the most indicative of future behavior. Past performance is the most indicative of future behavior. Don't say that Alex. Are you Dr. Phil? Is Alex a Dr. Phil guy? What is happening? I mean look if Alex wants the standard to be past behavior is indicative of future performance. I have a bad track record for him to live up to. Yeah. Well his past performance has been sloppy. It's not good. It's pretty bad. Not good. And I think that's an indicator of future competence. Yeah. So all the cities did not have police stations burned down over the weekend. So that actually kind of bums me up. But you know what's pretty amazing. This shows how good Alex is. Yeah because like

he not only stopped the takeover of Austin. No. No. No. No. No. Phoenix. Country. Why me country wide all of these cities. Many Minneapolis. Do you say or do you say Milwaukee? Yeah. But I think he probably meant many of Minneapolis. Yeah. He stopped all of those places from having Antifa uprisings. And I I for one am like I obviously am on the side of these Antifa communists or Osbergators. Sure. But I still got to tip my hat to him like that. If your influence in seven states is still big enough to stop some bombings that's great work. Well done. Great work. Yeah. So we'll get back to this because this is a big big narrative and it took forever to figure out what what he was talking about and what the reality of it is. But for now we have to jump off

this because on Friday it was also announced that a lot of those Ghislaine Maxwell documents were going to be released. Yeah. And my big position on this that I want to really stress is that I don't respect Alex's coverage of the Epstein story and I refuse to dignify it with any actual discussion. Very smart. Because I find that what he does is so distasteful and disgusting. And I don't care what his position is. It's it will never be valid and it will never be any kind of information that a actual source could not provide for you. And so I'm just I don't care. No. But leave it. There is something interesting that comes up that is it's a big swing. Is he still going with the Ghislaine. Yeah. Yes. OK. Yes. And Steve Pachanik shows up later and he

calls her Giselle. All right. Whatever. All right. Tom Brady's wife. Everybody's wanting me to comment on these FBI documents and the judge or police. And it's we already know all this. Donald Trump was a confidential informant that exposed that Epstein was screwing a bunch of little kids and black people. He's a CI now. The FBI tried to set Trump up. That is the Clinton Obama run FBI. It's all in the news now. All all of it. And they tried to rebrand it to say it was Trump because Trump had a public a private golf course that people came to and he's been videotaped with Epstein. He did know Ghislaine Maxwell and all the rest of it. Oh did he. That's why when Trump says he loves Xi Jinping we go to war with China. We said he wishes Ghislaine Maxwell

well. You really don't want Trump wishing you well. When Trump starts wishing you well you should be a little angel of death flapping above you. But I'll take good care of them. Yes. Very really care about them. Didn't Trump wish you well. Trump is about the fitting reality. Yeah. Trump wished Alex and Roger Stone both well specifically wish them both well. Yeah. Yeah. That's not consistent at all. But I love the idea that he's now trying to build into the narrative that the reason oh total that everyone hates Trump is because he was a confidential of course. Of course the original one to out to Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein down. Everybody knows everybody knows it in the mainstream media. It's in the. Absolutely white papers. He was

working with deep throat to get him. Jesus Christ. What else do you want to claim that Trump did. Why not. He just shoot the star. I mean we never would have gone to the moon if it weren't for Trump when he was 18 years old. He hangs out with Steve Pachanic who did everything through history. He's like he's the forest gump of every geopolitical thing that's ever happened. So why not. Yeah. If Alex is willing to believe Steve on his bullshit. Why not just believe that Trump literally did everything. Fuck it. Yeah. Why not. So Rob do comes into the studio. Oh the do. And he has a little bit of a side project he's been working on that is just depressing. So we went out. We hired a statistician to come up with the numbers. The stories on infowars.com.

It's on the Don Salazar story. Scandemic CDC stats show flu deaths dropped as COVID deaths increased. This is life saving to get this information to get it out to doctors hospitals. You name it. We looked at a whole bunch of states and found what people were saying six months ago. Five months ago was true. They're counting all the flu deaths. You name it in the same column. So Rob news here. You have the statistician to go over this stories on infowars that starts out with Arizona. Let's walk through this. So I walked through this. Alex has hired a guy to make some graphs that show that flu deaths and COVID deaths in a couple states. You just show these tracks. And then Alex can use those to imply that flu deaths are just being called COVID deaths.

The crux of this is that the graphs appear to show that as flu deaths were going down, COVID deaths were going up. But these graphs don't prove anything. Also, there's one essential problem with them that Alex staunchly refuses to address. John and cram might as well be. But the big issue is that the flu deaths in these states all go down around the same time. And that's because the graphs show the end of flu season. Oh, okay. All right. If these graphs were presented honestly, they would show flu death distributions from past years, which would end up revealing that the trajectory of flu deaths in the twenty nineteen twenty twenty season is completely normal. You would expect to see flu deaths peaking around week ten to twelve of the year and then drop from there,

which is what you see in Alex's graph. This is completely normal compared to past years. Hold on. Are you saying that maybe this was cherry picked information that's no. Not cherry pick. Cherry picked is the wrong word misrepresented. Right. Right. It's it's fraudulently presented graphs. Yeah, because that's the other really big problem is their axes. If you just take these graphs visually, these lines might appear to match up really well. But when you look at the scale differences, a big problem comes up. Take, for instance, there's a chart from Arizona. It appears to show that COVID deaths went up while flu deaths went down between weeks twelve and sixteen of twenty twenty. And because of the scale of these lines, they appear to track almost identically.

However, the lines are being misrepresented. In that time frame, the flu deaths went from about one hundred twenty to fifteen, whereas the COVID deaths rose to nine. I don't know what that rose to nine from because there's also a hole in the line on the graph of COVID deaths between week eleven and thirteen. There's just a hole. Just a hole. I have no idea. We're just doing a hole. Yeah. Okay, great. That's another issue. But even leaving that aside, these numbers are so far off from being explanatory. The lines in the graph have their scale manipulated to make it look like they fall like one to one. Like the rise is the same as the fall. But it's a statistical game. Yeah, this problem runs through all of their graphs. And based on the fact that they do this

really dicey kind of game with data misrepresentation, and the fact that they don't mention that flu deaths are going down because flu season ended, and the fact that they don't include a graph of New York, which had the highest number of COVID-19 deaths during flu season. These all combine to create a lot of issues that Alex needs to address before any of this could be taken seriously. Like honestly, can COVID itself sue for defamation? Like that's what we're at, right? Put some respect on my name. I know, kind of, right? What are we doing? Any statistician who would create something this shoddy is probably right to remain anonymous. Since outing yourself as the person behind this makes it way too clear how willing you are to create bullshit graphs for

money. I'll give you a hint as to who it is. What Rob first do first initial are last initial D. I'll give you another clue. Okay, great depositions. Great, great stuff. So Alex has another studio studio guest after this. Rob do just the incompetently presents this information. He's great. He's fantastic. But he has another guest this dude. Holy shit. I mean, we've heard him before. He's been on in the past and he's not really all that interesting. It's just anti-vaxx nonsense, but he is full of life. Oh, he's swinging him and Alex basically like you can feel Alex becoming invigorated. Okay, welcome back. I'm Alex Jones, your host still big tree is a very renowned award-winning

documentary filmmaker TV show producer journalist and he fell down the rabbit hole many years ago looking into vaccines and now they don't deny that vaccines can hurt you. Now they're just saying we're coming and you're going to take them one way or the other. So you've got the floor here. You're on fire. Yeah. And we're so honored to have you here in Austin. Thank you in studio with us. He's on fire and he's on fire. He's on fire. The two of them are just like, well, it's because they're saying Dell big tree is on fire. It is. Maybe Antifa set that right. The two of them are in a situation where they both have identical anti-vaxx narratives and so they're just like, not only that, but oh, they're just vibing on each other. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's it's hard to

listen to, but one thing they seem to disagree about is Gates Bill Gates position in all this. Okay. Now he's been the mastermind. He's been in Council of 12. One of the members of the Council of 12 and then Joel Scousen came in the other day and said he's a middle management guy, which kind of threw a little bit of a curveball for Alex. Right. And I don't think he knows where Bill Gates is on the flow chart anymore. It's like somebody's got a gun to Gates's head. Like, why are they doing this? That's the case. I don't know. I mean, I honestly don't know. It looks to me that Gates is attempting to be a world power. It looks to me he's stepping over. Maybe there's someone beside him, but I have a feeling saying, get out of the way Rothschilds,

get out of the way. I made the move. I have Silicon Valley and I have all of the medical establishment. I'm putting this cabal together. I don't know if he can put in our body what he wants and admit it's going to kill us. He's God. So I guess now he's God and he's trying to usurp the Rothschilds. And now Alex has agreed with Bill Dell Big Tree about that. So we're all over the place. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know who the power rankings are. I don't I don't I don't know anymore. So we've got we've got the mastermind. We got Council of 12. We got middle manager and we got Macbeth. Those are the four options so far. Uh huh. Okay, gotcha. And who knows who it could be. We might wind up with it'll be lone survivors. Yeah. So the two of them have a bit

of a conversation. It's all just like anti-vax bullshit. And I don't even like much like I don't respect Alex's stuff about Epstein. I really don't respect a lot of the anti-vax stuff and mostly because a lot of the bigger things we've already hit on. Yeah, like we've talked about a lot of those narratives already in the past and it's just like it's exhausting to go over it over and over again. Yeah, that said, there is one moment that I think is so illuminating for the wrong reasons in in Del Bigtree's appearance. He tells a story and I really think it sends the wrong message. But I think it sends exactly the like the message of the feeling that I have about people like him. I want to tell you a quick story. I was in third grade in Boulder, Colorado.

I would walk to school every day with my sister. There's about four blocks away. I came back for lunch with my sister and I walked through the door and my mom said, what happened to your t-shirt? I'd walked out the door in a t-shirt. I'd made an art class that spelled my gymnastics team across it, the Flyers. And she said, what happened to your t-shirt? And I said, well, you know, Craig said it looks stupid and he lives right next door to the school. So I just borrowed a t-shirt from him. My mom pulled me out of school the next day, Alex. And I was homeschooled after that. She said, I will never raise children that care what somebody else thinks. You like that shirt, you believed in what you're doing, you're going to believe in who you are and what you are. And

that's what makes me who I am today. In that story, Dell thinks that he's telling a story about how he learned to stand up for his own voice, which is why he won't back down from censorship he feels he's facing for his anti-vax bullshit. However, upon a closer examination of that story, it doesn't make the point he thinks it does. In the story, he has a shirt that he likes, which his friend, his friend tells him looks stupid. In response to this influence from his peer, Dell decides to change his shirt before going to school. When his mother finds out about this, she takes him out of school and puts him in homeschool like a responsible parent would do. This is not a story about rising above bullies or the influence of your peers.

It's a story about running away from it. So you never have to confront that countervailing force. The good version of this story is an empathetic mother telling little Dell that his shirt was cool and that his peers don't get to decide what he thinks is cool. So he goes back to school the next day with that shirt on, and you know what? The head cheerleader ends up liking the shirt. Something like that is how you tell the narrative. If we're right in the movies, that's the way you go. Now that's still the validation of the head cheerleader, but leave that aside. That's how the narrative arc of learning to overcome the negative influence of others works out in storytelling. The story that he's told, I feel like winds up with no more wire hangers. Like that's where

we're at in this kind of situation. Yeah, as it stands, here's how this story works. Dell received some influence from a peer which he succumbed to. When his mother found out, she overreacted to him changing his shirt and took him out of school, thereby isolating Dell from having to regularly deal with the challenges of influences from his peers. Instead of helping her child recognize that his opinions and tastes are valid, regardless of whether or not people agree with him, she unilaterally removes Dell from the situation and puts him in an artificial and fully controlled environment where he won't have to make those tough choices anymore. His mother basically created a bubble for him to live in where he wouldn't have to worry about

people liking his shirt or not. Instead of teaching him to validate his own feelings about the shirt, even if not everyone agreed that it was a cool shirt. On a certain level, this is actually a perfect analogy for what Dell Big Tree has done as a career. His anti-vax bullshit doesn't stand up to the scrutiny of actual science and the standards of mainstream reporting, so he's metaphorically put himself in homeschool. Thanks to millions of dollars from anti-vax donors like Bernard Sells, Dell has created an insulated bubble where his ideas and narratives don't have to compete with the influence of his peers who might tell him that his metaphorical shirt sucks. He has his own safe space where he can wear his metaphorical shirt and the privacy of his homeschool

media operation and pretend that he's vanquished and risen above outside influence when in reality all he's done is run away from it and hide. It's like I love the idea that he's telling this story that he's completely like it sends the exact wrong message, but something that is so salient to what he does now as an adult. No, all of the all of the childhood stories make me suspect that that's a true story. No, no, totally. No, all of these childhood stories, they tell like fondly and you analyze them for a second. You're like, well, that's one piece of the puzzle and how fucked up you are. Yeah, thank you for adding that to the rich tapestry of your bullshit. Yeah, I don't even see. I don't even hear from that story. Like granted, I have no idea what his life

is like, but like I didn't hear in that story him expressing that he was distraught about his friend not liking his show. He was like it seemed like it was all his mom's response to him changing the shirt. Yeah, I feel like the better end to that story is he's taken away from his mom. I don't know. I mean, it would be traumatic. You're in third grade. You get to say that's like to homeschool like I don't know. It's weird. Anyway, you wore the wrong shirt. So I'm taking you away from social influences forever, right? And you know you just sort of shift that over a tiny bit. I've decided to believe that Andrew Wakefield is the best doctor in the world. And all right, you're let's put myself in that bubble where that makes sense. Yep. And nobody can tell

me that I'm wrong ever. So for his mom, I imagine the rest of this is him and Del Bigtree just like having a jolly time. Yeah. And I don't care. So now we go to August first. Alex does a two hour emergency report. Sure. And it's important that he does this because the day before he said that Antifa is going to take over half the country. Basically cover it live. Yeah. So again, it's the same thing. Will they follow through on it? Am I reporting on something that's complete nonsense? We've done only you can decide how many times have we done this? So many does a live show expecting something big to happen. And it doesn't happen during the show. Well, I'm not sure if he's expecting it to happen during his his show. Okay. It's more of like,

I have created a really intense narrative. Right. I need and there's also an end date on when I will have stopped that thing. That's true. That's true. So I need to make the most of it while it's an active thing. Sure. And so he starts this off with like almost a five minute long clip from Road Warrior. It was a strange choice. Lord humongous. He loves Road Warrior. We want their children. We love the new world order. The city has announced they're going to blow up the police station tonight. They have not. The city has announced they have not they are going to blow up the police station tonight. Yeah. Tonight. Tonight. It begins. It begins tonight. The first explosion in the wall.

The city of Austin is announced they're going to take all the gasoline tonight. Austin has changed the name of the police station to Fort Sumter. Right. So Alex is going to get into this whole thing about Antifa and their plans. Their nefarious plans. But there's other important information. Sure. Alex has a lot of sources and this is probably one of the most unimpeachable of them. And I got a call from my wife's tennis partner this morning. She was at Whole Foods in downtown Austin at 8 a.m. and couldn't go in because 150 Antifa were out there with clubs and guns in the parking lot. They don't usually get up till noon. So if there was 150 people this morning the text came in at like 8 10. I'm sitting there cooking

almonds for the kids and pancakes. Can you imagine what's going to be down there tonight because they pledged. I mean they're publicly saying we're going to take over the police station. We're going to go to the city council woman that didn't vote to defund the police. We're going to attack her house. So we got some Antifa hanging out at Whole Foods at 8 when they usually sleep until noon. I mean you know I guess he's trying to call the protesters lazy or something but it's like you've been up but you've been up till two getting tear gassed. You get to sleep till noon. I think that's fair. I fucking love how regularly Alex will have intel from his wife's various friends. Her tennis partner called me. My wife's tennis partner. My wife's in a yoga class

this one person who told me the hardware store has been besieged. Most of my information comes from my wife's acquaintances at this point. Yeah. Great. I mean like let's take Alex's partner. Well let's take Alex out of the equation and imagine anybody across any kind of respectable news spectrum saying I have on the authority of my wife's tennis. Right. Right. I'm reporting this news and that's where I'm getting the information from now. It's it's embarrassing even if it's not Alex. Does he have any corroborating evidence from his wife's from his wife's tennis partner. Yes. The other tennis partner. It's a trio. It's triples. You can't play triples. Oh yeah you can. No you cannot in Austin. You can. With 150 Antifa people around. Yep.

You can't play triples. They wouldn't allow that. That's against the pledge. 150 Antifa people. That's 50 triples teams to have a round robin tournament. I like it. I like it. We're playing three four dimensional golf at this point. Whole Foods parking lot. Perfect tennis court. 150 Antifa. Yep. So Alex is just rambling around about how violent Antifa is and how awful everything and if you're white you need to be scared. You've seen the footage in Utah Colorado New York California where somebody rolls one down and they go St. Louis are you for Black Lives Matter. Yes. But I believe in all lives. Boom in the head mama. You're dead. 23 year old mother of a two year old because she was white and because she didn't bow down

to this racist ideology. Alex has no detail. He can't even remember any of the details. That was an Indianapolis. She was 24 years old. He doesn't remember her name. It was Jessica Whitaker. Never cared in the first place. St. Louis was the McCloskey's who were the couple who pointed guns at protesters. Yes. Yeah. None of this matters to him. Nope. It's just all like trying to make white people scared. Yeah. Like the details of everything that happened was even made up. Yep. So in this next clip Alex lays out a little bit of like what he's talking about with the idea that Antifa is going to take over everything. And this is where I was able to sort of get in a little bit. I was able to figure out like oh okay here we go. So the big stories up

on info wars dot com. Austin police warned Antifa BLM planning terror attacks and mass shootings downtown. And we show you a public document by a major manager company CNDC that manages a bunch of apartments downtown on the I-30 corridor that they were told by police to warn the tenants that Antifa is taken to the roofs with guns in their buildings and listed their buildings as where they're going to be. So I went and I found this article and I found that there's two major pieces of information that Alex is basing this story on. Okay. And the first thing I want to point out is that Alex gave the wrong name for that management company. CNDC. It's not CNDC. It's GNDC. Okay. It's hard to tell that this is if you know it's because he can't read or because

he's trying to make details harder to track down. I'm not sure. Or it could be just mistook it for CNBC and then just kind of who knows. I don't know. This is the Guadalupe neighborhood development corporation and info wars is just posted a screenshot of what appears to be a letter from the GNDC to tenants asking them to report any suspicious activity because police had warned them that some quote people coming to Austin tomorrow may be armed and have plans to get on top of buildings along the I-35 frontage road. This letter, if it's even real, says nothing about who these people are. There's no mention of Antifa or anything else that Alex is adding to the story could be anything. Well, there's only one group of people historically who have the

training and the weaponry necessary to get on top of rooftops and scope out the area in order to provide sniper fire. So this brings us to the second piece of information that's in that article on info wars. The other part of this Antifa plot apparently comes from a Facebook page called the Texas State Gorillas militia, which is supposedly a left wing militia. Sure. Interestingly, if you try to Google that name, there's no search results other than message boards from like a day ago and all of them link back to the info war story. Interesting. If you go look at the Facebook page, it's pretty clear that this is not a left wing militia. At least one of the admins of this group has explicit Boogaloo iconography in his profile picture and their banner image includes

at least two of the people pictured wearing skull masks, which is a look that is regularly associated with that sort of community. Sure. The Facebook group is private, but you can still tell certain things about it if you're not a member. For one, it was created about a month ago, which is a little bit weird. That is odd. The other thing you can tell that is even though the group is private, the admins pages aren't all private. Well, you can tell some things by looking at them. Now they're too smart for you to catch them, Dan. The page was created a month ago by a guy named and his page is public. It's really hard to determine how much of the stuff on there you should take seriously because it's a Facebook page. But if you look at the pictures he chooses

to post, you get a sense of the guy. He's a big fan of guns, tons of pictures of him with guns. There's a weird picture that implies that racism started because white women are into black men because they have bigger dicks. That sounds historically like something I've heard. So, okay, very weird. Okay, so now are you saying that? Okay, he must have just come up with that himself. I'm sure there's no historical corollary for that exact narrative, right, Dan? It's a strange picture. You know, memes. Yeah, since at least 2019 in August, he's been posting boogaloo and big igloo related memes, some of which involve killing law enforcement. Sure. The second person to become an admin in this Texas State gorillas is a guy named Leroy Jenkins, which is obviously a

fake name referencing them. Right. Yeah, he doesn't know any posts prior to June 30th, but almost everything he's posted is boogaloo related. It goes on and on like this as you look at the members of the group's profiles. This is not so much a left wing Antifa group, the way Alex is trying to present it as much as it is a boogaloo related group, which may or may not have planned the things that Alex is talking about. I have no idea if there's any validity to the claim that they were planning something violent on their Facebook page, which is what Alex's conjecture is. And I don't know that because it's a private group. I'm not joining it. And Alex doesn't have any proof that he's posted of it. I have no idea. And we don't recommend people try and join it. I

wouldn't. I just don't do it. If that is the case, though, then it makes sense that the Austin Police Department could have warned the Guadalupe neighborhood group to be cautious. This ultimately could be a situation where there is an underlying real story, namely that a subset of the acceleration is to boogaloo types. We're trying to use the current social climate to trigger some violence. But even that Alex has failed to substantiate. I'm not saying that that is the case. I'm saying that is a possibility. Yeah, even if that is the truth of the story, Alex is completely misrepresenting it to be some kind of an Antifa Black Lives Matter thing as opposed to it being a group of gun absolutists. We'd absolutely love if only they were a little bit more

universally racist. Yeah, basically, and I don't know. It's it's it's interesting to me because you know he was presenting this story so vaguely like these plans to take over police stations and all this like I didn't see any evidence of that per se. Maybe that's in the private Facebook group that I can't see. I don't know. And he's trying to present it as like this is Antifa Soros funded. It's it's like a hundred people in this Boogaloo Facebook group. Yeah, it's cheap for Soros. You know that's that what if you're paying a maybe max for a hundred people Facebook group five grand five grand that's pocket change to the Soros buddy. Yeah, you might as well toss it in there. Maybe it explodes. Yeah, so Alex touches back on the story of the the doctor

who's super into hydroxychloroquine who also believes that people are having sex with demons during their sleep and what have you. Yeah, Alex fun. Alex believes that she's being attacked because she's a Christian. Oh, okay. All right in the process kind of is like as that people have sex with demons in their sleep. I think he might okay. I mean she's telling you like two plus two and all that is like look at this crazy Christian lady. You know she thinks that that some of the human cell lines have been mated with aliens and so she's crazy and then meanwhile the very establishment believes that. Oh, what? Hold on. I mean you can read the Bible and it says that and so fine. Let's does it matter? Yes, it 100% matters. That is a big thing

that matters, Dan. So I guess Alex believes that the Bible is about alien DNA and some human cells have alien cells and that's what the Bible says. You don't know that Dan. The Bible says the earth was seeded by viral RNA from this wasn't the direction I expected him to go. But I don't know why not lean into it. So now suck you by we get a guess that we can dig our teeth into this is not a Dell big tree. Now this isn't a Rob do shitting the bed with stats. Sure. This is Steve fucking Pachett. He's got some swings. Yes. I'm Alex Jones, your host. We are commercial free on this August 1st Saturday Transmission. Are you ever selling author wrote a bunch of books with Tom Clancy and did psychological operations in the State

Department and the CIA and a bunch of other groups. He's a great Patriot. We always appreciate his insight. He's one of the most accurate so far as people we know. Now here you're making a weird face and I need to say this. Yes, I think Alex is right. But that's just because he knows a lot of really inaccurate. That's fair. That is fair. Okay, I think Steve. Yes, I okay. Okay, I will give you that. Everyone else is wrong all the time. And actually Steve's wrong all the time too. But he is more entertaining. He's pretty. He's a smart guy though. At least he reads. He reads those intelligence briefings from Stratford. There's something. Yeah. It's better than Rob do tossing graphs at us. There's two big slip ups in this interview that I think are

kind of telling. One is at the beginning. Steve starts and then I think he loses his train of thought and has to do a second take. And I think that this it implies to me that Steve might be working off a little bit of a script. Well, let me explain what COVID-19 is. COVID-19 is just a variation of a virus that we've had for over 60 years. You cured it means it's a spike. It is a highly it's a highly manipulative. Well, let me explain what COVID-19 is. COVID-19 is just a variation of a virus that we've had for over 60 years. COVID means it's a spike. It is a highly it's a highly manipulative virus which can attack someone but it can't kill them. So he had to do two takes there. Yeah. Basically the exact same thing. Yeah. He lost his train of

thought. Yeah. Hey, everybody. Dan here. I just wanted to jump in to correct myself a tiny bit here. After recording the episode, I went back and I watched the video of this from Alex's show. And this is not actually an instance of Steve Pachanik saying this twice, although it sounded a lot like it if you were listening to it. I went to watch the video and it is actually a weird editing thing that Info Wars screwed up. I don't know how they did this. It is I've never seen it before but they just played Steve saying this twice. I have no idea why. I apologize that that slipped past me. Anyway, I was wrong. I made an assumption that Steve was reading the same thing twice when in reality it was a never before seen very weird thing where Info Wars played the

same audio twice for no reason and the video is the same. The video plays twice. Just a tiny little. I have no idea. Anyway, can't explain it. Anyway, back to the show. I would probably even leave that aside for a moment. If it weren't for the other slip up that happens that I think he's being fed information. Does he remember that he cured himself of code? Yes. Yes. Good. Good. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But also there's a problem. So Trump has been, you know, he wants to call it the China virus. Yes. Yeah. Big fat racist. Yes. And Alex has spent a lot of time proving in heavy quotes that Fauci and Obama sent it to China. Right. It sold it to the Chinese. Because Alex is a big fat racist. Steve kind of completely fucks that narrative. Oh, no. Ironically, it didn't really

come from Wuhan and Fauci never understood it. It really came out of northern Italy. And Tony has never understood the underlying dynamics of a vaccine. So apparently according to this came out of northern Italy and that ruins everything for Alex. If that's true. All right. If that's true, if Steve isn't lying, right? Or one of the most inaccurate people you could be talking to entirely possible. Everything Alex has built up about this is wrong. Yeah. I mean, there's no conspiracy. Everything. Yeah. It's literally every 60 years old. It's a variation. Yeah. Tony Fauci doesn't even understand biology. So he wasn't involved in the development of this quote unquote bio weapon. Neither was the sound of it too. Yeah. So I guess that's all out the

window. You got to toss Hillary in there though. Why not? You know, Hillary visited northern Italy time before. Yeah. Toss it in there. So Steve has shaped the geopolitical landscape. He has overthrown governments. He has put in leaders totally every single good thing in his world. Every single important person in the world has intersected with him at some point. Yes. So that makes it funny when Steve accuses Tony Fauci of using hyperbole. Unfortunately, I worked with Tony. Tony was my teacher. I had great respect for medical doctor Cornell University Medical College. But right now what you're seeing is what I said four to five months ago. He is Jesuit trained. He is narcissistic. He has hyperbole. And he really made a medical mistake. It's malpractice. He should

never recommend it to close the government. And Trump should never have closed this government. They have good news. They didn't close the government. Yeah. So cool. Wow. When you said what, that's one of the things. No, no, no. I remember. Yeah. Remember that he went to Cornell while Fauci was there. Yeah, they would have been. They probably would have overlapped their time at Cornell. So that's one of the things that's the least. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know deserving of a what. I know. But I just I just love it. I just love it when Steve Puchenek is like this guy is a braggart. He uses hyperbole. Yeah, this guy's an asshole. Also, I cured myself. I was the first person to cure myself of covid also with antibacterials. I'm Jack Ryan. Yes, exactly.

I've solved every war of my lifetime. He helped kill the Italian Prime Minister. Come on. Wow, that part's true. So they get to talking about like what's wrong with Trump because Alex is like he responds to people who give him like really tough talk. Yes. And this is not what I expected to hear. By the way, I mean, I'm not shooting your horn, but you've been dead on about Trump has so-called good instincts with policy, but not with who he hires. That's what Tucker Carlson's told me probably in on air. He says Trump just grovels to his enemies. Well, the problem is, believe it or not, unlike you and I or Tucker Carlson, he doesn't have the strength or the self-confidence to fire somebody in front of him. He does it indirectly. I've seen countless bosses

like that and they can never confront somebody directly. I'd like to remind Steve that Trump's catchphrase was, you're fired. Yeah. I'd like to. Yeah. Public persona was based around firing people to their face. Yeah, but I have, I have heard that Trump doesn't do that like in real life. I've read that. I've read that about him. I don't know if that's actually true or not. I mean, it is a narrative that's been tossed out. Oh, sure. I mean, you've heard various stories about people who have worked in the administration, like not, you know, being fired indirectly. Yeah. Tell me hearing on TV. Of course. Yeah. You know, stuff like that. Yes. I do believe that Trump is a coward. Berman stepped down. Right. Yeah. Yes. Yes. I do believe that Trump is a

coward, but the thing that's really fun about Steve saying this is that it's also a recognition that Trump's entire persona is fake. He's bullshit. Yes. So every. So wait, are you telling me that his reality TV show persona was sold to us as his actual persona during the campaign, thus making these idiots think they were electing one person smart business leader? But just tossed that in the fire like a big tree. Of course. Yeah. Great. Yep. So that's fun. Trump can't fire people. Trump is a giant. Also, also by the way, if that's what you're saying, get the guy out of there. He's unassertive to the point of being ineffectual and probably is not a good leader. I've known bosses like that. And I think of them highly. Is that what he's about to say? They should be

president. Yeah. And that issue is like, Hey man, there's an election coming and it's, you know, Biden's the other choice. And it turns out that Steve isn't big on voting. I needed a stronger president than Trump. I can't have Biden. He's seen how demented that's it. There will be no Biden coming in and I will assure you and I'm assuring the intelligence community. They know exactly what I'm saying, what I mean. They know they're unnoticed that a Biden will not come in irrespective of who his vice president will be. Black or not. That's not the issue. That's another question. Who's Biden? What lunatics would try to run someone that doesn't even know where he is? That doesn't sound like a guy who's super interested in elections. Wow. I'm telling the

people in the intelligence community that a Biden presidency will not happen. I don't believe that Steve has any kind of power or pull to do anything. Totally. But the perspective and the position that he has is deeply, deeply authoritarian. See, this is when you toss in a Larry Nichols to blackmail the president into getting rid of elections. That's what you got to do. Sure. You got to get Larry Nichols in Larry flew too close to the sun. He's not welcome back on Alex's show anymore. It doesn't seem because now would be a good time for a Nichols. Yeah, totally. Yeah, or maybe I don't know. I have some dirt on Trump. I took the P tape. I have it. If he doesn't delay the election, I got my sources that gave me the P tape.

How'd you get it Larry? He showed up in my mailbox. Where's the where's the guy bring where's the guy who who's telling us that Reagan had a video of him getting pegged where are we at? Yeah, but he I mean metaphor. I like there needs to be that guy. But to be fair when Bob Chapman came out and said that he had he'd seen a tape of Reagan getting pegged. It wasn't like they were trying to take down Reagan. No, totally. I get that. I wasn't that was out of nowhere. Right. Right. But that was in the middle of a completely unrelated conversation. But that's what I'm saying. Now is the time for somebody to toss in that. I could use a non sequester. But but it shan't come. So Steve is one of these guys who

says a lot of really bad things just sort of casually like Biden's not getting in regardless of his vice president's black. Yeah. Yeah. Why are you saying that? Why did you do that? Or the time or not just one time, but he is on a number of occasions called Soros a rat Jew. Yes, Jew rat. Excuse me. Not not what we do these days. He does this a lot. There's a lot of stuff that makes me think like, dude, you got a lot of anger and you're a real bigot. Yeah. And this is one of those instances here. You have a moron like Conway, George Conway, half Filipino, never served our country, goes into the Lincoln project, another idiot outpost and makes we agree where he says that Trump is not qualified, not competent. You're talking about an ineffectual narcissistic.

We got one insulting. Yeah. I mean, like, why do you have to point out that George Conway is half Filipino? I mean, you got to toss him in there. He was born in Boston. Yeah. But you can't trust people who are half, I don't know, anything other than white. How is it all relevant to any conversation that you're having? Well, because he's never served our country. Well, as we all know, people with Filipino descent have never served our country. I mean, that's just like those sorts of ticks are really. Yeah, that's just they're kind of telling. Yeah. So what's even more telling is Alex asks what needs to be done. And Mike, Mike down for this because because Steve, he may have a different view of America than a lot of people. And so then what do we the people do the folks tuning in right

now that do care about their families? What do we do? They go back into the street, they protest, and they say we want change and we want to get rid of our congressmen, our senators, and we need to have an effective financial program. More than anything, America is a business entity. More than anything else, we are a business entity. Forget the notion that we have liberty, equality, that's nonsense. Whoa. You know, it is it's refreshing to hear it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, like you know that that's the underlying thought behind so much of this right wing bullshit. Like the rich aren't like the Constitution matters. They don't give a fuck. It's a business proposition for them. It's refreshing to hear somebody just come out and be like, I want to press liberty.

I want to make money. That's nonsense. Do you need any of that shit? What are we talking about? We, the people know business, the people, my friend. Yeah, Alex is up here crying about the blood of patriots and his big secret government source informant Steve Pachanik was overthrown governments. Fuck you. It's a business. Fuck you with this equality and liberty talk. It's nonsense. Yeah, I can't get in line with business. Tell me about any kind of founding document for the United States of America that even considers those things as important. So I hate to do this two clips in a row, but I'm going to need you to put your mind down to this one as well because in this clip, Alex suggests that Trump is too weak to kill his opponents. Sure. And here's where

there's another slip up on Steve's part. Obviously, give a few globalists ended up having kayak accidents. I'm not calling for this because you'll get called in a federal court and so will I. And then we're serious. I'm not going to do anything myself, but I'm just saying, instead of loving him, have revolution and burn the country down and sell us out to the chai comms in the old days towards Washington, we'll just go after a few of these guys. Abraham Lincoln would it all be over. I mean, like you said, Trump's too big a wimp. And I guess the Pentagon is all too. I mean, just actually go after a few people. If you took money from the Chinese, if you're a trader, well, you know, they take a dirt nap. If a few of these people got in

trouble, all the rest would turn and run. They're a bunch of wimps, but we have to hang out here under attack. We have to deal with all the physical threats, which I'm happy to do. And then no one else ever makes them pay is what I'm saying. Well, here's what you have to do. You've got two men here who I do respect. Steve Mnuchin, who understands money and distribution of money, and Wilbur Ross. Steve's wife is there with him, and she's like googling things for you. She's feeding him information. Yeah, that you should not have let her come on with it. Wilbur Ross. Yeah, yeah, like he needed her to feed the name that he is going to put into his next paragraph. So yeah, I mean it's interesting. You just told me that America was more than

anything else a business entity. Yeah, so yeah, I'm fine with being a trader to a business entity. Sure, especially when the business is exploitative. Yeah, and I think I'm going to trader that business. Are we the shareholders of that business? No, absolutely not. Come on, if you're a shaler holder, you get some sort of liberty or equality. Oh boy. Yeah. So anyway, another time that Steve has slipped, much like bringing up that Steve Conway is half Filipino, is when he's complaining about that PBS documentary, the frontline thing about Alex. Why do they fear conspiracy so much? They've got frontline shows, all of them saying, Trump's bad, he believes in conspiracy. That's how the real world works. They don't want us

thinking about the moving parts. No, what? If you listen to that show, it was so idiotic. First of all, you got Anderson Cooper. What an amazing, flaming individual. But more importantly, they forgot that two summers, he was a CIA intern. Really? No kidding. I don't know what pointing out the fact that he is a homosexual individual has to do with anything. Yeah. That's number one. Steve can't talk about people who are not white straight. Just can't not be a bigot. Yeah. Yeah. He just can't not do it. It's just impossible. Yeah. And then I don't even remember Anderson Cooper being in the documentary outside of like maybe archival footage of him. Sure. Like I think that there's footage of him interviewing one of the Sandy Hook parents.

Okay. From like around that time. Yeah. But like, I don't remember him being a talking head in the documentary. I don't under. I don't know him just existing at all. Right. Steve very angry. Yeah. He's just in the documentary in the background. It's like, oh, you got Anderson Cooper. That guy is gay. And he was part of the CIA. You know, it just bums me out because they never get this. They never get this. All right. So if you're living in Steve Pachanik's lily white world of great fascism for everyone, then he's just going to be a bigot towards. Oh, yeah. He's Italian. He's going to do. He's going to just be a bigot towards whomever he can find. Right. I mean, that's the that's the error of exclusionary thinking is that you get it. Right. You end up

with definitions that become smaller and smaller. Always. If you end up with a white nationalist state, you'll end up then with a separatist blue-eyed community as opposed to a brown-eyed community or whatever the. I mean, we used to kill Catholics. Yeah, just for being Catholic. The logic of exclusion never relies on real reasons to exclude. No. And because the reasons are forced artificial and made up, they can be forced artificial and made up about any arbitrary distinction that you want to make. And because these these, you know, moves towards exclusion are always to make up for something else. Yeah, they're always an excuse for why the economy isn't as good as it could be. Why is there crime? Italians aren't buying enough anyway. All of the

all of these exclusions you want to exclude people because it solves some other issue that's not related totally because that's always the case. You have to understand that you get your way never matter. Yeah, you get your way and then you will find you'll need an excuse again. Yeah, and you'll find another thing to exclude another group of people. Yeah, of course, Steve will never be satisfied with whatever it's joining. It's joining Stalin's Politburo. Like, you got to know eventually you're going to be removed from the picture, man. It's not going to you're not going to be in that picture later on. The issue for Steve right now, though, is that like there's no leader for his side. Now granted, according to him, I mean, there's no leaders

period. So there's that. Well, I mean, but according to Steve, he installed Trump as the president. So there's no leaders. But unfortunately, you have fucked up then because you installed a little you're not going to you're not going to blame Steve. Yeah, come on. They don't have that kind of power as much as we have an absence of leadership and power at the head of our country. And I have the head of the conservative movement, which I think is just an American movement. It's not a populist. I'm not a conservative or a liberal. I'm American. Shut the fuck up. We really have a leader at this point. In fact, Trump was supposed to be that leader. But what you hear is apologia. I can't believe how many times he says, well, I'm sorry, that's not what I meant. I really

meant this. He wavers and he's wreak. I mean, honestly, I would get in there and say, get your together and bring in Melania to be your vice president or whoever you need. But this can't continue. And you're going to have to come down and start firing systems one after another. How do they get Trump in a trance to not know what we want? Is the guy we saw four years ago? Does his wife know that Steve has a huge boner for Melania? Like we have never heard him come on the show like not for a while. Have we heard a while on the show without mentioning how Melania should be more important? That's that's not that's not entirely fair. But I understand why you would feel that way. I've heard a number of times that he hasn't brought up more, but it has been a while.

I've heard a number of times that brought up Melania. And it is always in a millennia is great. I love learners. She should be vice president. Not only does he think she should be vice president, I think he wants to install her as the shadow leader of the government. Why not? I would say you build a little staff around Melania and forget the press to the National Security Council. Oh, I agree. If he put her front, that's why they won't put her on any magazine covers or talk about her. They're scared of her. Well, that's the point. That's what I need. I don't need her in the front. I just need her to have enough of a critical mass for her to implement what's required and override a lot of what Trump is doing. What is happening? It makes sense. It

makes sense because please make it make sense because here's the deal. All right. Clearly, they believe Trump is a thing and clearly Trump is absolutely not the thing that they believe it. Uh-huh. They've made it all up. Sure. They made it all up to feel better about themselves. Yes. And now Trump is obviously shit. Yes. And even they can't avoid that. Yeah. You got to pick a new person to make up shit about Melania's right there and Steve wants to fuck her. So move on. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a hey. She can be the one we project all of our bullshit. Yeah. All of our power fantasies on now. Yeah. It's it's weird. We'll make up bullshit about anybody. Why not? It's very it's very strange. This this consistent thing where he seems to want to install Melania

is I don't know. I don't know how much I feel confident about this. You know, in the same way that like you get these reveals of things that are going on while Steve's having an interview like his wife Googling stuff. Yeah. And it's like, oh, that kind of ruins the facade. And then he has like this insistent repetitious like we need to make Melania the shadow president. Yeah. Right. I'm like, I'm not sure I trust you as like a crafty mastermind thinker either. I don't I don't know. I don't know if your plans are good. Is it like maybe. Okay. Maybe I'll throw this out there. All right. Let me toss this out there. I think he's creating an alternate universe. Clintons. Do you know what I mean? Like he's thinking. Interesting. Trump is your bill. So Melania

must be your Hillary. So it makes sense that the wife of whomever should become the president. I think I think you're probably right that there's some of that. It's unconscious. Maybe it's entirely unconscious. That's possible, but it does have that feel of like he they're creating their own. You know, like they thought Obama was a dictator, so they created their own dictate. You know, they thought Bill Clinton was, you know, his wife had too much power. So now they're saying that Melania should have that power. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, maybe. Maybe there's something to that. Maybe. So Alex wants like, you know, hey man, you're you're a psychiatrist. You're a psychologist. So tell me what's going on. Wait.

I just remembered you're not allowed to diagnose people. I know you're not supposed to do the diagnosis for a farmer. You're a psychiatrist and medical doctor. He's declining quickly. He doesn't even know who he is. I mean, basically already is there. He's already there. He was, I said it six months ago. I real quick, he's talking about Biden being having senile dementia. Yeah. Said it a year ago. He has senile dementia. There's nothing about it. I don't, I think you can't reprimand me. I don't belong to the. He's declining quickly. So where is he in a month? He's exactly where he is battling and basically not knowing what he's going to do and not knowing where he is or what the time is. That's one of my favorite things

because like Alex is like, Hey, you know, a goldwater rule. You can't diagnose people from far. The goldwater rule. I don't give a shit. I'll diagnose him. You know, I don't care. You can't reprimand me. I'm not in the APA and the reason is because I got reprimanded because I diagnosed Bush from afar. There is that. There is that. I was in trouble for doing exactly this many years ago and then had to leave the APA. Now I can do it all I want. You got to double down. You got to double down. If you, if you stand up for your convictions, you double down. So Steve had some parting words and they're not good. This is bad advice. Sure. Start going back to an ordinary life and forget about the coronavirus. Forget about the fouchies.

If you've got a problem, go with your pharmacist or your doctor. Ask for Zithromax or any of the antibiotics and that will handle it. But for the most part, forget the numbers, forget the New York Times, forget the TV and go on with your life and create a life. That's right. Go local. Don't believe the gurus of mainstream media. So basically Steve's big advice to the audience is pretend this isn't real. Pretend this isn't happening. Do you like, here's the fucked up part is this is, this is almost, I'll put 50 bucks down on this. Here's what's almost certainly going to happen. Shit's going to double, get worse. We're going to get a vaccine. The people who take the vaccine are going to be okay. The people who refuse to take the vaccine are large enough in number

that when they start dying, they're going to claim that we're killing them because we took the vaccine or that it wasn't real and that we're just killing them anyways. And because they're going to continue spreading it, it's entirely possible that it could mutate in the fucking vaccine won't even do anything. Or this is fucked. I don't know. Or a secondary possibility is eventually there will be a vaccine that gets wide enough or, you know, comes and enough people take it that, you know, you end up with a certain amount of folks are just going to have negative reactions to any medication that anybody takes. And the people like Alex who are anti-vax will use those instances of inevitable complications as proof that they were right all alone.

But I don't know. I think that I don't know. I don't have enough. And we're talking about hypothetical vaccines. So I'm betting. Sure. I'm not. I don't know about the thresholds of how many people not taking a vaccine would be a problem. So I don't know. I can't really speculate on that. So Steve leaves and Alex gets back to his story about Antifa that he's lying about. And he accidentally reads some of the raw information that reveals that this is not a Black Lives Matter Antifa group. It's the Boogaloo group. Great. I don't just believe the police. I'm going to check these links. This is going on on Facebook with real people. Intel Leroy Jenkins group known as Boogaloo. That's a fake cutout right wing group. ADL runs. Advice they gave about body armor and

weapons. The group about 90 armed people, officer safety, Boogaloo, safety, Gutierrez, have flared other people related devices. Another suspect advised they have spray paint, stack charges, NFI with whatever that is. So Alex is reading whatever information is supposedly from police. And what this information tells is that that Leroy Jenkins is one of the people who is one of the admins of this Facebook group. And some of the other names that he read off are also the admins of this Facebook group. And because he's reading this out, it's very clear that whatever is supposed to have been told to him, which it's still Alex. So I have no idea if any of this information is even accurate. Sure, sure. But assuming that it is, then the police

have just told him that there is this group, that this is this Facebook group that is Boogaloo adjacent or inspired, and they have some plans. And because Alex knows enough to know that that word means something, he has to say that it's a fake cut out. Cause he accidentally read that. Yeah, he knows what Boogaloo is and he's just running cover for them. That's it. Like there's no, he knows what he's doing. He is trying to make it so no matter what the Boogaloo movement does, it doesn't come back on. Yeah, no, he's running cover for it. Yep. So Alex gets into a bad head space here towards the end of his Saturday show where he's like, man, talk show hosting is hard. I mean, killing globalists will be so much easier to do a talk show than playing around. I mean,

it's so much easier to what it and we're not going to do that. But you keep starting your fights, you're dead. And that's what you need to know. And the police know and the public knows and the military knows everyone's sick of you and you won't stop. You won't back off. You won't quit. You won't stop messing with us constantly. You're going to make us gouge your eyeballs out and you know it. Okay. All right, man. I honestly think yeah, Alex is lazy enough that if it were actually easier, he would probably do it. Yeah. And I mean, nothing could be easier than doing his show the way he does. I know right. It's so sloppy and so bad and so devoid of craft. You don't even need to be good at your job. You spend the first ten minutes of every show saying that you can't even

do your show. Yeah. And then watching some of the road war. Yeah, exactly. And then lying. Yeah. We have one last clip here and this is, you know, just while we're talking about how hard it is to do his job. Please consider that this is August 1st. You know, I said that the Christmas in July would end yesterday and it will end by tomorrow. I haven't called the new special yet. Storewide free shipping, double Patriot points still available. He can't even do this. He can't even do this side of it. Just Christmas in July shouldn't exist in the first place and definitely shouldn't happen in August. Yeah, he's bad at everything. This is all just terrible and new. You're gonna do the same sale. Just make up a different name Christmas in August. Why not fucking just do it?

Yeah. Love Jesus in August sale. Totally do it. Who fucking cares? Yeah. Yeah. Pick a holiday arbor day in August. Here's a shit. No, to leftist. Fine. Apologies. Yeah. No way. Karen about the trees. Men's day in August. There you go. Do it. Love it. This shit. Yep. So, you know, we come to the end of this and I think that this was an extremist pageant that I'm glad didn't accidentally end up in any violence to the best of my knowledge at this point. Who knows? Yeah, right. But yeah, I mean, he's playing with fire the way that he did this whole broadcast about how tonight and tomorrow and Tief is planning to blow up these these police stations all around the country. All this. That's that's really

risking the possibility of someone hurting somebody based on that reporting. And then when you get a little bit further into it and you see the sources that he's relying on and you see, well, what it this appears to be about is not all around the country. It appears to be one Facebook group that is run by some Boogaloo folk who may or may not have been planning something hostile. Sure. It's unclear, you know, and he's taking that and expanding it to the extent that he is like that's really fucking dangerous. That's that's pretty. That's scary. That's that's pretty scary. Yeah. And then they're coming for your town next.

Be a lemon and Tifa they're going to be in fucking bum fuck Idaho any moment now. And when you have when you have like that at the end there when he's talking about like, you know, killing people will be so much easier than doing this talk show and you just keep pushing us and keep pushing us and you're going to make us do this when you start to realize that you keep pushing us is fake stories that he's coming up with and telling his audience keep pushing you and I keep pushing and you guys haven't actually murdered anybody yet on the scale that I want. It becomes clear that this is almost like a self perpetuating cycle that he's trying to trying to antagonize and poke and it's it's I mean it's hard not to say that he

is I mean after you know he's covering for the Boogaloo movement movement and he's actively encouraging his own audience to essentially start the Boogaloo movement on their own. So I think we know what kind of movement he likes. Yeah. And honestly, I probably would have done this episode on like if I would have rather spent like two hours talking about that story that Dell Big Tree told because that to me is one of the most revealing things. I had to like step away from you diagnose him from a distance or I'm actually not involved with APA. Okay. Well, you got it. Actually, I am but I'm involved with the Acolytes Protection Agency with Farouk and Bradshaw from the WWF in 1999. I used to gamble with them backstage.

You used to gamble with them. I used to play poker with Farouk and Bradshaw. All right. All right. What are you? What are you diagnosed them with? Being too fun. I don't know. Anyway, we'll be back. But tell them we have a website. We do have a website. It's knowledge right.com. Yep. We're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's that knowledge on the way and had to go to bed Jordan. Yep. We're also on Facebook. We are a Facebook download show. I choose Ray review. And if you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area and help out those doing God's work. Indeed. We'll be back. But until then, I'm Nio. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I am Melania Trump shadow chief of staff. Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks

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