Knowledge Fight - #475: August 24-26, 2020

Episode Date: August 31, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan try to wrestle with Alex Jones' behavior in the stretch of time between the police shooting of Jacob Blake and the shooting of protesters in Kenosha last week....

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Starting point is 00:00:58 I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan. I'm George. We're a couple dudes like sit around drink now deep beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh indeed we are thrown off here. I mumbled my word a little bit because I had to mute our mics while the theme song was playing to tell you I hate your but I just I just had a new bright spot which is your fury at me drinking your but my day which I didn't even know what it was until I bought it five seconds ago. I'm not furious at you. You made a weird face when you drank out of that can. Well it tastes terrible. I was responding to you making that face and I was looking at the can. I didn't recognize the brand and then I saw your but my day and I made a face at you all while the theme song is all while we're doing this because we're fucking professional. I had to mute the mics
Starting point is 00:01:40 but I hate your but my day and you still didn't run the song. Yeah and I still came in and the only one was me needing to. Yeah you were doing great. Talk about how you're doing great. I silently told you I hate your but my day. You could have passed it off like it never happened. Probably we're doing great. Yeah. Anyway hi. Hi Dan. Hey Jordan. A quick question for you. What's up. What's your right spot today. Well I have I've I've a lot of a lot of bright spots. I feel lately have been a lot of plant oriented stuff and I feel very self conscious about but I have you know sort of freed myself from that and all bright spots are probably going to involve from here on out maybe not forever but for the foreseeable future. I was since you were last here I've installed a I found some pretty cheap netting. Yes and I've installed on one of my walls here in the office a makeshift lattice. Yes I see it for vines
Starting point is 00:02:39 because I've got a bean plant and it's you know it's fine enough. Yeah it's fine enough. It's growing pretty seriously to the point where if it didn't have something to crawl on you might be in trouble. The plant would be in trouble. I'd be fine. Yeah I mean I wouldn't end up with any beans. You've never been the subject of revenge by bean before. That's true. So I've put this up and I like it so much that I've decided that like it's the season of the vine. I'm going to go crazy. I received that covering all the walls that I can with vines everything like why not. Yeah why not there's no reason not to not all over the place. I can create basically a jungle. No you are and if I'm careful won't hurt the walls too much. Eventually you're going to have to take a picture of this and put it out there just so people I will see yeah and I wish they could have really seen the way that it's grown and how quickly it has like it's one of those
Starting point is 00:03:35 time lapse photography things of the Empire State Building. It's just so big now. Well I'm getting really into that and it's a passion. I enjoy it and I've decided to that like one of the ways that I'm going to try and get more involved in community stuff moving forward once once we're sort of more able to is find a community garden. You want a community garden for sure find one get a plot or two there. I don't I don't I didn't look in prices or rent or anything like that but get involved with that and try and donate the whatever is grown to food insecurity. I think there's an open plot at the park right near where I live so you might be able to little it's a little bit so it's a little bit far I know from my place I would prefer something closer but that's not that wouldn't be the worst thing ever nice to have a little walk 20 minute train ride. Yeah so I'm still in a bit of an experimental phase with a lot of the plants but it brings me great joy to see
Starting point is 00:04:30 these these little seedlings coming up and then now you know we I mentioned before that the cucumbers have a lot of flowers on them. We've got some female flowers on one of the plants coming in. Oh yeah actually be cucumber finally yeah those are really growing in and I just I don't even like pepper genies that much but I randomly planted some we got some flowers well you got to plant something. Yeah. So it's exciting. So that's where I'm at. I'm going crazy and having a good time. What's your bright spot. My bright spot Dan. I'm going to have to go with a Cobra Kai on Netflix. My partner she's about to go back to school and she's freaking out teaching not teaching. No she's not in high school. She's about to start learning more. Seems like she just that's creepy. Yeah I know that's that's uncomfortable. No she's teaching remotely and she's really freaking out because there's no guidance from their union or the principles or anybody because nobody has any idea what's
Starting point is 00:05:27 going on. Everybody's scrambling around so she's staying up till five a.m. every night and last night this morning all Cobra Kai buddy and to this day Ralph Machio is the least imposing and graceful martial artist that's ever been on screen before yeah it is really but his chest is concave he has very tiny shoulders he is the least threatening martial artist I've ever seen that's yeah I think I think I agree with you but it's kind of the way it's he's supposed to be yeah he's not he's the underdog he's supposed to be the guy right kid exactly kid but now he's an adult who owns a dealership right so it's a little bit different is what is this it's a it's a oh it's oh I'm sorry do you remember the karate kid I thought you were just talking about watching the karate no no there's a TV series yes set 40 years after the events of the karate kid I did not know this and it's got the it's got the main characters back one of the the Cobra Kai guy old uh-huh miserable terrible okay karate kid owns dealerships
Starting point is 00:06:31 kicking ass and then we all learn who's the bad guy I all of us along the way I had no idea this existed yeah it's great okay it's really good I won't watch it I know you won't watch it but it's really good I appreciate knowing that it exists this is confrontational very tired those up for the last like days yeah I believe you this this folks episode little frazzled all right so don't buy anything big happen so today we're going to be going over the period of time from August 24th to August 26th 2020 Dan this is 2020 God damn it and I think that there's a lot of stuff going on during this time period that is particularly important and especially relevant visa V the world of Alex Jones sure and so what it is is the time frame of the day after Jacob Blake was shot by the police in Kenosha yeah and this will go through to the day after the shooting happened where pro two protesters were killed another wounded also in Kenosha yeah so taking a look at that time period because I think that there's a
Starting point is 00:07:44 lot of stuff that's been going around on in the media about I don't know about the media but social media sure sure I've seen plenty of tweets that got a lot of traction that we're talking about Alex Jones inspiring this shooter who shot protesters yeah I saw a few references to info wars and yeah like I'm going to wait until yeah other people tell me I was a little bit interested in in in that and I wanted to pay particular focus to it and not too surprisingly it's a complicated issue and it's difficult and a large part of that is why we did not have an episode on Friday yeah things were coming in really fast and I didn't feel like there was a responsible way that we could have made an episode yeah and simultaneously it didn't feel like I had it in me to do an episode about something else and not talk about now stuff that was happening it was a very it was very difficult I just couldn't imagine feeling and saying anything in any way appropriate yeah you know you know yeah just it anything would be inappropriate yeah the way I look at it is is even though we do a show where we create
Starting point is 00:08:46 contact the content that people listen to sometimes it's more important that we ourselves end up listening taking things in yeah and absorbing and that was kind of the state that I was in for a good couple days I think it was wise I think I think it probably works out for the best yeah so we'll get to this episode here in a second but before we do during we got to take a little moment say thank you some folks who signed up in our sporting show that's a good idea so first Chris B. Thank you so much you're now policy one I'm a policy one thanks Chris thank you next great name Daniel B. Thank you so much you're now policy one I'm a policy one thank you Daniel thank you next Gary M. Thank you so much you're now policy one policy one thanks Gary thank you next Jonathan and then parentheses of five iron frenzy fan E. Thank you so much you're now policy one I'm a policy one thank you John thank you Jonathan I was I was somehow got in the middle of saying five iron frenzy and Jonathan at the same time my brain got mixed all up five iron frenzy holds up does it I feel
Starting point is 00:09:45 like that's a take that I have that I keep saying no one's arguing with me most people have no idea who they are Christian scab and yes anyway Derek H. Thank you so much you're now policy one I'm a policy one thanks Derek thank you next Leanna R. Thank you so much you're now policy one I'm a policy one thank you very much Leanna thank you then finally like say thank you to a couple of people donated on elevated level we appreciate that very much so Jason R. Thank you so much you're now a technocrat and Sean D. Thank you so much you're now a technocrat I'm a policy one crikey mate that's fantastic have yourself a brew how's your 401k doing bro all right we got to go full tilt buggy on this Watson all right let's just get down to business we ain't making that money off that heroin why you pimp so good my neck is freakishly large I declare info war on you thank you so much Jason and thank you so much Sean yes thank you very much to the both of you if you're out there listening
Starting point is 00:10:39 you're thinking I enjoyed the show like support these gents do you can do that but going to our website knowledge fight dot com clicking the button says support the shoe we would appreciate it we would be very grateful or you could take that generosity and Jordan what would you want to do I would say you take that generosity you put it in by the way I'm every time I'm going to throw it now you're going to throw it to me and see until you can get an idea maybe you'll think of something to take it over I was going to do mine now I was going to just sort of pimp it out to you sure every time I'm fine with that and see how long it took you to notice but now I'm calling myself out on that that's a horrible idea I'd be bad at it all right it would be yeah hey look I'm trying to force you into this scene alright well as as my I'm trying to make you accept a reality for our coach Matt Elfring told me if you are sitting
Starting point is 00:11:27 down you are always driving so this is so what you're going to do is you're going to take that generosity you're going to put it in a paper bag you're going to head to the park with a few of your friends you're going to drink whatever is in that generosity you're going to then take that to a you're in donation center and give them the urine of your donation that they need that's very nice I think that's a good idea one the first time I went to a park to drink me and my friends were so stupid what we did is we had a bottle of red wine oh no and a bottle of peppermint schnapps and we ended like why don't we mix yeah why don't we put them in the same cup yeah faster than ever so gross the worst thing I've ever heard gross that's delicious so Jordan real quick before we get into the episode I realized that you know I've been really slacking on something and maybe we can have a little bit of brightness before we get into this episode sure so it is now
Starting point is 00:12:17 time to check in with the year of the I was wondering when we were coming back I think a lot of people probably forgot that it was going on or thought that I had forgotten and I want to say that one of the things that happened is that I ran into walls and so I wasn't drinking as much seltzer I got a little bit depressed about seltzer share I tried to find a couple like jelly belly has a line of seltzer that sounds unreal but I please tell me and I wanted to order them of course you do but they weren't available how could they not be I don't know there's not like there's a number of things that I found and I thought were cool and I tried to order them and you can't like just can't yeah there's some things that I don't know I bet jelly belly made a hundred of those and everybody was like why and then they stopped that makes sense to like I got to go to the dark web to get jelly belly I got to go to the dark web I'm not going to do it get some crystal
Starting point is 00:13:09 Pepsi right I think they do still make that probably probably so anyway I decided to get back on the horse with the the the waters and we're now to 226 I got your remonte for you I don't know if I told you I 226 which is pretty good I'm great worried I'm not going to make it to 500 even though we're still ahead of schedule now this is what I told you all the way back then I said you got to push out in front because you're going to get into the doldrums of summer and you're back into it yeah you've got the strength Dan I think that path appears to still be yeah viable yeah so a couple of highlights here I want to say first there was a San Pellegrino at a diamond edition oh yeah I showed you the box it was in a and it was like four dollars like it's a bottle of fucking yeah John Perry yo yeah yeah yeah it was four dollars or three dollars something like it was just a I guessed like 15 yeah it was good plain fizzy water I wanted to give it a one for its
Starting point is 00:14:19 hubris right right right how dare you put yourself in a box but I felt that wasn't fair so I give it a 66 okay and then the other thing I want to bring up this definitely deserves a call out because I have been very anti grapefruit and I've gotten a little bit of flak for it I think grapefruit sucks I think it's a bad flavor all right however I tried the limit lists that's a brand family okay grapefruit hibiscus all right very good 76 76 yeah man you put hibiscus in something and you love it Dan that hibiscus I do I do maybe it's from my island roots could be but yeah and I think the grapefruit works really well with another flavor I don't think it stands on its own well it adds a nice little bite and it's bang to it yeah yeah so if it's your secondary flavor it gives you a smooth kind of bite yeah I think so and I think that's what like fresco works great fruit lime oh yeah you're probably right maybe I'm making that up I don't know anyway what's a squirt what's a squirt made out of squirts
Starting point is 00:15:19 delicious it's got grapefruit in it for sure probably I believe can field 50 50 why not so Jordan I want to take a quick little moment before we get started here to discuss not having an episode on Friday I've already sort of danced around this little bit yeah I think it's pretty self explanatory for anybody who listens to the show why we didn't have an episode yeah or at least the possibilities isn't very long but I want to explain exactly what's up here I texted you about this on Thursday morning that I felt that I've lost some degree of perspective I couldn't really tell what direction was up and I was feeling completely lost there were many things that were happening that felt really important not necessarily surprising but horrifying and I was finding myself unable to process anything in a manner that would make it possible for me to comment on it in a responsible way there was the Kenosha police shooting of Jacob Blake on the early evening of Sunday August 23rd there's the unrest that broke out that
Starting point is 00:16:16 evening in response to the shooting which included a fair amount of property damage then on Tuesday August 25th the 17 year old militia fascist shot and killed multiple protesters in Kenosha despite the fact he lived in Illinois then on Wednesday August 26th homicide suspect in Minneapolis took his own life while being pursued by the police which some mistook as a police shooting and led to a bit of looting though the police didn't shoot the guy it's a testament how little trust is there with the public that they have in the police that the default position is to not trust them when they say they didn't shoot this person in a move that I absolutely resent the police released security camera footage of the man taking his own life and not knowing how explicit the video was I watched it on Twitter which fucked me up a bit then on Thursday there was the awareness of the imminent landfall of Hurricane Laura which was looking particularly nasty as a storm when it arrived in Louisiana it was tied with the hurricane from
Starting point is 00:17:12 164 years ago for the title of strongest storm to ever arrive in that state that's just one of the many records that are being broken this hurricane season is warmer waters precipitate the earlier and stronger formation tropical storms and hurricanes yeah when it came time to record an episode for Friday I realized that I had no productive thing to add to any of this conversation and the only responsible thing was to wait to calm down a little listen and try and regain some sense of this perspective there was an added difficulty for me professionally and that had to do with the 17 year old shooter in Kenosha and how there was immediate talk of how outlets like Alex Jones were encouraging this kind of violence in the days leading up to the attack very quickly there were tweets talking about how Info Wars had an article up promoting the militia that was in Kenosha and involved with the shooting although in fairness they did forget to point out that this was an article posted elsewhere that Alex had just reposted on Info Wars still bad but also lazy yeah screenshots were posted
Starting point is 00:18:10 of that militia trying to legitimize themselves by pointing to that Info Wars article is proof of their credibility and then on August 28th media matters released an article with the headline quote Alex Jones encouraged vigilante violence in the days before a gunman killed Kenosha protesters this article is fine upon analysis but it also is incredibly limited in its scope this article only touches on a couple of comments that Alex made in the previous week and a couple of posts on Info Wars which misses the reality that what happened an armed extremist killing protesters probably believing that they're doing so to save the country is the ultimate conclusion of a long running campaign on Alex's show this is where things get really complicated for me because there's still a lot that's unclear and it limits my ability to make a strong acclaim as I would like to at the point that we're recording this it remains unknown if the shooter listened to Alex Jones's show so it's difficult for me to say in any legally meaningful way that Alex directly contributed to this tragedy at all
Starting point is 00:19:09 I struggled with that because this was one of the points where my ability to retain perspective was really being challenged it feels like Alex helped inspire this terrorist attack and my immediate reaction was sort of alternating between thoughts of how this was a pretty predictable eventuality and how disheartening it is to realize that Alex was far from the only outlet from which the shooter could have been getting the messages he was getting I can't say with certainty if this guy was an Alex fan but I want to lay out here how if I do learn that he was it won't surprise me at all and how Alex's show has been trying to inspire a violent act like this for months which is a lot of the context I feel is missing from the articles and outlets like Media Matters about Alex and the shooting for months now we've heard Alex ramping up his calls for violence against left leaning protesters we've heard him ramble about how vengeance belongs to God but the answer to that riddle which I didn't realize was a riddle
Starting point is 00:20:05 is that you one of Alex's listeners might be meant to be the instrument of God's vengeance in fact here's him saying exactly that you know vengeance is God's vengeance is God's but God has instruments of vengeance that's always the twist to the riddle and so the globalists expect to try to terrorize us we're not one of these poor kids you got strung up one of your dungeons we're going to terrorize you that was an older clip from last April but if you pay close attention to Alex like I do you'll know this is a theme that he brings up on a pretty regular basis for instance here's him discussing how his listeners could be a tool that God uses to bring vengeance from his June 30th 2020 episode of the broadcast you know God is the will of the universe God is conscious as God is the Almighty and so vengeance is God's
Starting point is 00:21:05 but how does God deliver vengeance well God delivers vengeance through us but you got to be real careful that you're actually following God's plan and you'll know when it's time for vengeance so there's a divine importance to the possibility of you committing violent acts against Alex's perceived enemies and you'll know when it's right for you to act God will tell you when which could be better understood as Alex saying that if you feel strongly enough to act you should rationalize that that's God's voice telling you to kill people the essential thing that's very difficult for people to wrap their heads around is that it shows like Alex's are not about politics in any meaningful sense they're fascist cult religious programming where the host will devolve into long drawn out rants about the literal Christian devil being in charge of the globalist who are running the Democratic Party and also all the Republicans who don't blindly follow Trump and everything he says this is critical to understand because it's not always been this way
Starting point is 00:22:05 there's been a religious undertone to Alex's show for a long time but in its current state it's just basically authoritarian brainwashing in radio form using religious ideas as a way to heighten the stakes of the need for the authoritarian regime to solidify its power Alex wants a dictatorship and knows that that's a bad argument so the only way you make it is to justify that a dictatorship which surrounds white identity is better than the literal Christian devil so we should all go with the white identity dictatorship most of the rest of his show is kind of just window dressing like Alex interviewing an idiot or reporting on a headline he knows will anger or scare his audience enough to buy the dumb pills the heightening to religious terms also justifies whatever actions you the listeners might take if you're up against the literal Christian devil it's really is it so bad if you kill someone what if you're able to convince yourself that the person you're killing is an agent of the same literal Christian devil
Starting point is 00:22:59 in that case it would seem like you'll be morally wrong not to kill them I mean God might even tell you to do it and I believe in you they're gonna figure out ways to take action against it in a legal and lawful way but when the globalists become totally lawless there is no more law and I just become sick to my stomach now thinking that my mind has to begin looking into other avenues and a lot of other people are looking into those avenues they've been asking me what paths could be gone down and all I can say is seek God's face
Starting point is 00:23:39 God believe God and direct us down those roads of need be an essential piece of the project that you need to be doing when you're Alex and you're playing this game is the dehumanization of people you want violence to be carried out against this takes many forms because there are many aspects to how you see someone as a person each of us is multifaceted and we have a number of different forms of rights that apply to different aspects of our lives one element is the rights that you have as the citizen of a country there are certain things the government cannot do to you like how unidentified agents were kidnapping protesters in Portland back in July and detaining them in unmarked vans this is a completely unacceptable treatment of people
Starting point is 00:24:20 but if it's being done to a group that you want to dehumanize then you need to justify that which Alex did on his July 9th show they're asking well who are these men a lot of them are federal marshals but most of them are US military attached to the hostage rescue team so it's the military and that's why you're getting grabbed and why they're driving you off and then you're getting interrogated because you work for a foreign power you work with the chai com globalist literally trying to burn the country down destroy the stock market and bankrupt the economy you're a bad person you're a military operative you're an enemy combatant you're not an American citizen you said no borders no wall no USA at all
Starting point is 00:25:01 Alex has made the warrantless detention and kidnapping of left-wing protesters okay because he believes that their political opinions and positions make them not Americans and in fact enemy combatants Alex spent years of his career yelling about the Patriot Act and now he wants the very sort of thing that was enabled to be used on his imagined enemies because he's decided that they're enemy combatants and they don't have rights that people enjoy in this country that is in effect arguing that the left-wing protesters that you see are of a separate class of people from the rest of the country and they're essentially an invading army if they're an invading army of enemy combatants then you shouldn't be too concerned about what happens to them this dehumanization has another level to it where the argument becomes that these aren't even really people on the July 10th show Owen Schreuer explicitly makes this argument equating protesters to quote obstacles to freedom
Starting point is 00:25:52 you can say there's enemies of freedom but that's not to me the correct psychological approach because I don't sit here and see them as my enemy I don't see them as an enemy of freedom I think if you ask them they want to be free too just like anybody else but what they've become unwittingly is obstacles of freedom they have become obstacles of freedom and as soon as Americans in mass are willing to fight for their freedom like you said Alex it's a trap you're now an obstacle you're going to get run over use the cars running these people over in the streets as a physical example the opposition is not a person with a political philosophy or simply a different set of priorities to yours they're obstacles to freedom obstacles aren't people they're things there's only one party in this equation that has any agency or political will and it's Alex and Owen's side they know what freedom is they know they're right about everything to the point where they see people who disagree
Starting point is 00:26:48 as little more than traffic cones on the road to some idealized state of freedom they imagine they're on this is pretty consistent as a mentality on Alex's show the people who have passionate political beliefs that are counter to his are just idiots who the globalists have tricked into opposing Alex's perfect ideology of freedom this is at its core a convenient and cowardly wife for Alex to yell about people who believe things he doesn't like without having to really explain his problems with their beliefs or argue them in any meaningful way he does this primarily because he can't argue for his positions and if he tried it would quickly devolve into blatant white identity talking points and the game would be up really fast along with dehumanization another tactic that's important to use when you're looking to encourage violence against a group you don't like is to massively exaggerate and mischaracterize your opposition when the autonomous zone in Seattle was set up Alex engaged in some pretty racist and comical behavior in this vein when he discussed Seattle activist Raz Simone Seattle now a large part of the city is controlled by a self described African warlord and it's being endorsed by the left is a wonderful new thing and there's videos of him running around
Starting point is 00:27:59 we go to his YouTube channel show folks this guy running around beating people up calling himself and his arm goons the police department the area affected by the autonomous zone is exaggerated to sound like it's most of a major US city and the state of affairs is misrepresented to being that the area is under the control of an African warlord this is obviously meant to paint a particular sort of picture in the audience's mind one that helps them justify responding to left wing protest with violence there were protests in Seattle and what grew out of that was the city being ruled over by a violent African warlord so if there are protests in your city that's a possible outcome if you let these leftists have their way at the end of July Alex engaged in his behavior in a particularly flamboyant fashion when he claimed that MS 13 Chinese liberal hit teams were being sent out to get all the conservatives which by my account that did not happen but it's totally confirmed now Soros deep state Obama controlled Hillary controlled Antifa will be the decoys the distraction systems for real hit teams preparing to try to decapitate the leadership of the pro human pro American movement whether you're a corporate person in academic in finance in government in the military you're targeted for death and they may launch the attack next week or they may launch it during the last days of the election they may launch it after but they have the safety off the finger on the trigger MS 13 hit squads chai com hit squads everybody and they're getting ready to totally overthrow everything and they're coming to kill you and your family should be ready lock and load ladies and gentlemen
Starting point is 00:29:52 I guess it's still going to be coming this is a nonsensical claim that Alex is reporting as totally confirmed that these hit teams are going to show up and kill conservatives the way Alex uses language is actually really insidious though since he seems to be talking about conservative leaders being targeted but ultimately he ends up by saying that they're going to come kill you and your family this is a personalization of the exaggerated threat which is meant to make the audience feel a sense of impending doom that they need to take action against another example of this outrageous and embarrassing style of exaggerating your perceived enemies actions in order to rile people up into hurting them was what Alex did over the weekend of July 31 to August 2 he took some erroneous and bogus information and used it repeatedly to tell his audience that Antifa was planning to burn down police stations around the country that weekend because this is the time for all good men and women to come to the aid of their country and so wherever you are around the country but if you're in Milwaukee or you're in Austin, Texas or you're in Phoenix, Arizona or you are in Los Angeles, California or you're in New York City or you're in Miami these are some of the towns that Antifa says they're going to take over the police stations and burn them down Saturday night and as you've seen they've done it all over the country so you should probably take them at their word past behavior is the most indicative of future behavior past performance is the most indicative of future behavior
Starting point is 00:31:20 this is a ridiculous narrative and of course the prophesied attacks never came and Alex's information came from a Boogaloo Facebook group that he was pretending was Antifa but let's not get lost in the weeds the idea of a coordinated attack on police stations around the country is very serious that kind of thing would require some kind of organizational centralization and that's the implied message of a stupid narrative like this one that Alex is pushing it's less important whether or not the attacks actually come an important goal is just getting the audience to subconsciously accept that his perceived enemies could coordinate attacks on police stations around the country because if they accept that notion they have to accept that the other side is basically an army that's all one coordinated marching together oh yeah that clip also highlights another important aspect of inciting violence against a group you want to target and that's making the listener feel responsible to do something you've created the feeling of impending doom and that you know you feel a need to act against it now it's being expressed that it's your responsibility to do something Alex is directly calling for people in those cities that he names to do something to stand up to this hyper exaggerated fear about Antifa attacking police stations in their city there is a responsibility to stop these left-wing protesters but it also is a problem for Alex that it might not be legal to do the things that need to be done to do that
Starting point is 00:32:43 this is actually something Alex explicitly recognizes and does discuss on the show they just keep escalating and escalating and I don't see a way legally and lawfully because things are so paralyzed to stop the left and I get what you're saying don't interrupt your enemy while they're destroying themselves but at a certain point there's a responsibility to stop them I mean so when you assign a responsibility to someone what you're saying is that it's wrong for you to not do this thing it's not that the thing you're suggesting is a right thing to do it's that inaction is itself a wrong thing to do there's something that must be done it's your responsibility this type of thinking can go very wrong when the things that you suggest your audience do are really fucked up for instance there was the July 28th episode of his show where Alex suggested that his audience make kill lists of protesters I mean I don't even want to kill these globalists but if they want to kill us the best thing to do in a defensive way is kill as many of them as quickly as possible
Starting point is 00:33:49 and again the media will misquote that I don't want to offensively kill anybody but I'm not going to take this okay and I just want everybody like Santa Claus to take down names while we're here 90-something days out and just think about the future if they take down your country they destroy your bank account they murder a bunch of patriot leaders what are you going to do because you always talked about when the new world order came in and when the UN did this you were going to go out and shoot folks in blue helmets they don't wear blue helmets they show up in black uniforms and burn down your local courthouse and overthrow your government run your life that really speaks for itself Alex is telling his audience to make lists of protesters because he believes them to be the real foot soldiers of the globalist invasion which had long been visualized as UN troops showing up with blue helmets that's pretty outrageous but probably not as bad as what Alex said on his July 8th show when he started to advance the idea that possibly someone would need to sacrifice themselves to take out globalists
Starting point is 00:34:48 we have to get control of our governments we have to reverse the technocracy plan the post-human plan and if governments won't do it we have to start talking about what we're going to do and who's going to step up and take one for the team I don't want to go there but we can't just sit here and let these people do it the leadership of the globalist operation must be dealt with that's not something that Alex only brought up once he's mentioned the possibility that someone in the audience may need to essentially commit a suicide attack in order to take out the supposed globalist leadership the jumping back and forth between talking about globalist leadership and protesters that's an intentional thing on Alex's part he wants the audience to essentially see them as the same thing without having to constantly talk about killing average citizens
Starting point is 00:35:34 obviously convincing someone that they should carry out a kamikaze attack against Alex's imaginary enemies that's a tough sell which is where the importance of the religious aspect of the show comes back into play in order for someone to really consider the idea of giving up their life in order to take out a supposed political target you really need to amplify the struggle there needs to be religious significance to carrying out Alex's wishes and there also needs to be an underpinning of guilt there needs to be some kind of way in which this is your fault dear listener that we're even in this situation which is something that Alex actually does express quite a bit so I will warn all of you watching and all of you listening we have committed crimes against God
Starting point is 00:36:17 we have committed crimes against the children we are going to be judged this planet is going to be burned to a crisp you better get right with God now and you better start fearing the engineer that built the universe instead of bowing down to these midget demons you have been warned the world is sinned against God by embracing things like abortion and diversity and so Alex says it will burn
Starting point is 00:36:43 but if you struggle against the literal Christian devil there's still a fight that you can be a part of if the world is going to burn and it's your fault for letting things get to this point maybe you can redeem yourself by killing the literal Christian devil's minions or something most people are not comfortable with the idea of killing or even assaulting other people generally most people are violence and confrontation averse mostly because adults realize that we don't want violence being directed at us so unless it's necessary or in response to other violence it's wrong for us to initiate it even Alex recognizes this so in order to convince his audience that in fact
Starting point is 00:37:17 violence against groups he wants hurt is okay he acknowledges that offensive violence is wrong but also redefines any violence carried out by his side to be defensive in nature we've just gone too far we've gone too far putting up with this politically and I'm not saying we should offensively get violent but my brain and my genes my cells are saying kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill I mean they're killing us
Starting point is 00:37:45 Bill Gates is coming with a weapon to kill us slowly and laugh about it these things that Alex is doing and the way he's engaging with his audience almost appear to be designed to help listeners overcome any nagging doubts they have about hurting people they disagree with politically God says vengeance is mine but hey you might be a tool of God's vengeance violence against protesters is wrong but it's fine because they're actually enemy combatants and when you think about it they're basically just obstacles to freedom if you don't fight them your city's gonna end up ruled by an African warlord
Starting point is 00:38:17 hit teams are gonna kill you and your family and Antifa's gonna burn down all the police stations therefore it's your responsibility to fight back and there may not be a legal way to do that you have to create kill list to protestors and someone might have to take one for the team and sacrifice themselves to take out some globalist leaders and if this sounds severe it is but it's only severe because we've sinned against God so we deserve to be fighting a group of people who work for the literal Christian devil
Starting point is 00:38:41 they wanna make vaccines which is basically the same thing as killing everyone so when you really think about it any violence you do to those people who support things like vaccines that's defensive so they actually deserve it this is an argument and justification for committing violent acts up to murder against people who are protesting for political policies that you disagree with which is taken entirely from Alex's stated positions and things he said not once but repeatedly if you're a person listening to this bullshit show and you're of an impressionable age
Starting point is 00:39:08 it would not surprise me at all if you thought you might need to kill protesters in America in order to save the country the final aspect of how Alex's show operates in a way to encourage violence against his enemies it has to do with what happens after the act of violence has happened when Garrett Foster the protestor in Austin was shot and killed details of the shooting were fudged in order to make it a simple self-defense situation one man who kept doing this in front of police headquarters in front of the city council was shot dead last weekend when he pulled a gun on a man in his car while they had it blocked off
Starting point is 00:39:42 and the man was pointing an AK-47 at the innocent citizen we still don't know the man's name who turned himself into police and was released probably not white is the reason that they're not releasing the information I want to make about race war Alex is even able to throw in some baseless race baiting for good measure you got to put it in there and other times we've seen this in the past Alex has also done the it was a false flag shooting sure he's not pulled that as much
Starting point is 00:40:11 these clips are that are for this are all from Jude until now right right and he hasn't done that with a lot of these these are more recent act the flag is tough because part of them wants to be like look at these heroes and then the other part of them wants to be like well we didn't have anything to do with that so the easier thing for him to do is try and fine line that yeah I think that he feels he has the optics that are necessary because there are protests that a lot of his audience are scared of that he can you know play the self-defense card a lot more than he could
Starting point is 00:40:46 in other situations where there were right wing terrorists who shot up a bunch of people why do the false flag right so Alex even acts this way surrounding a much lower profile acts of violence like when he spent part of his show on June 2nd celebrating how his son Rex beat up an alleged looter at a convenience store I just learned before I went live that my son was going to visit my parents and there was looters in the store attacking people and he and he had to kick their ass and we've got that dramatic footage I've had it's unbelievable looks like a movie these acts of violence that are carried out are celebrated and rationalized
Starting point is 00:41:23 in a way that I refuse to believe is accidental no absolutely it's part of whether it's subconscious or conscious it's part of the pattern that he operates in Alex consistently acts in ways that facilitate argue for and justify acts of violence against people he disagrees with politically and it doesn't feel inaccurate for me to say that the way he acts seems designed to prompt a listener to take what he's saying you know if they take what he's saying seriously they go out and hurt somebody that Alex wants hurt and one of the reasons that I just can't accept that he doesn't know what he's doing is because Alex has discussed this very behavior in the past
Starting point is 00:42:03 when he was talking about Phil Mudd saying things about you know Trump that Alex took as a threat on television Alex described Mudd's behavior as essentially being stochastic terrorism and when Mudd went on TV and said we will kill this guy the CIA will kill this guy the government's gonna kill this guy that was done to telegraph confidence to their networks embedded in the government that they were trying to get other people to create false whistleblower reports to leak information to the media
Starting point is 00:42:41 and to then finally get somebody else to muster up the courage to poison the president to shoot the president to kill the president that's what this is is agitating to hope somebody else doesn't from that clip we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Alex fully understands that someone saying something on a public platform can have the effect of inspiring someone listening to do something bad and that can be a strategy that someone employs I don't agree with him that Phil Mudd was doing that but what's far more important is the accusation proves awareness if you're aware of this tendency or this strategy someone could use
Starting point is 00:43:20 then you have a greater responsibility for your actions Alex has no excuse to act the way he has in the past few months if he's aware that someone saying things like the things he's saying on his radio show can have the effect of inspiring someone listening to enact violence he has a responsibility to convey his messages in more careful and safe manners and if he refuses to do so it strongly implies to me that the ultimate result of violence against his political enemies is a desired outcome for him either that or despite knowing that his words could incite someone to violence
Starting point is 00:43:53 Alex is literally incapable of stopping himself from acting in ways that would make that more likely and if that's the case he's just as condemnable for not removing himself from the airwaves where he's able to have that effect on people none of this is to say that the shooter in Kenosha definitely listened to Alex's show and was inspired to his act from that I don't know that and it might not be the case it might be the case I have no idea I can't prove it either way
Starting point is 00:44:20 but I'm not positive that it's even the most important point Alex is part of a media ecosystem that operates in the same way he does some independent QAnon weirdos incite violence much more than him or attempt to some giant names like Tucker Carlson engage in slightly stealthier incitement generally by justifying acts of right-wing terrorism after the fact that said I'm not sure that there's anyone who's larger than Alex who's as explicit and overt about his stochastic terrorism tendencies whether or not the shooter was a fan of Alex
Starting point is 00:44:53 what happened in Kenosha is exactly the effect you'd expect to see from the way Alex behaves and I'd be very surprised if we don't see more of this outcome I see it as a possibility so I don't know I'm sorry I'm sorry about that long chunk there absolutely not I have not apologized well that's called being thorough but how dare you do your job well at the bastard well the more the apology was that you had to sit there I could have gone to the bathroom that's true that is true that is true
Starting point is 00:45:25 would have been slightly uncomfortable but it would have been weirder yes I really had to sit with this for quite a while to really figure out what the thought I had on all the talk around Alex because so much of this was about like Alex posted this article about the militia in Kenosha and like yeah he reposted someone else's article there's a chance Alex himself didn't even know that article got reposted like I don't know his editorial like hands-onness is probably non-existent so I could see it as entirely possible that he didn't even know that anyone posted that had no idea
Starting point is 00:46:12 now so it's really hard to trace a direct line between anything and I think some people are trying to do that I see some Twitter accounts that are trying to make that argument and I understand I get it I understand why I just think and I know I know it's all this dumb shit about like yes this is what I look at all the time sure sure sure I'm aware of it more but I just think that expanding it out a little bit allows for more of an understanding of like it doesn't matter if Alex had any legitimate direct connection with this individual shooter yeah look at what he's doing
Starting point is 00:46:55 yeah like it is the behavior that would predicate something like this here is what what I am struggling with is just the massive forest for the tree situation that we're dealing with here which is that I don't care if it was Alex Jones who posted who wrote it up and suggested everybody go to it what we're in is a media system that Alex has helped popularize and propagate that created an entirely false reality for 40% of the country so whether or not it's Alex or it's a fucking zero hedge or it's a red ice radio or any of these people they're all part of the thing that is cultivating fear and using it to create chaos
Starting point is 00:47:46 and that chaos is going to make the order of fascism seem more palatable that's the entire idea and it is not Alex it is Tucker it is Fox News it is all of these people working in concert it's a thousand social media influencer accounts that you can't even think of you may not even know they exist exactly it's it's a little bit like you know when they do studies on childhood development and it's like the parents have less impact upon a lot of growth than the social peers do the the media like Fox News and that stuff is a lot of the times now your parents
Starting point is 00:48:25 and what's more effective is going to be those Twitter campaigns those those Facebook fucking viral posts and memes and all that yeah I mean it's really easy to internalize information from social media without checking any of it and it can completely distort your understanding of things yeah I don't know I don't have a solution but I mean when you think about it who have killed who's killed more cops in the past 10 years probably sovereign citizens exactly how is it that cops themselves have been brainwashing to thinking that those dum-dums are on their team I'm not sure if it's actually sovereign citizens I don't know the stats on it but they do end up killing some cops yeah they kill a lot of cops yeah I don't know it's a it's a it's a it's a mess
Starting point is 00:49:10 huh so I wanted to take a look at this time span from the day after Jacob Blake shooting covering through the ensuing protests and wrapping up the day after when Alex's knows about shooting of the protesters yeah because I was interested to see if there was a compelling argument to be made from his work over those days that he was doing something that would incite someone to leave Illinois him specifically yeah yeah if there is then that's much stronger totally than the things that were being posted in media matters and on these social media accounts that were saying you know like he posted this article he said a couple of things right so we're gonna take a look and we'll see
Starting point is 00:50:02 we'll see what the what the conclusion we come to is I suppose my issue with that before we go any further is a I think kind of fundamental misunderstanding of Alex's ideas here he doesn't care if one person goes to one protest the whole idea is a shotgun approach every protest should have one of those people who might go off he doesn't care about Kenosha or no Portland or wherever certainly the point is I'm trying to inspire somebody somewhere why would I give a shit about if it's Kenosha or not you know true true but based on the fact that there were outbreaks of protests for sure that would be sort of a moth to the flame totally attract his attention absolutely that's what I'm saying preliminarily and now we're gonna yeah
Starting point is 00:50:52 so one thing I should point out is that Shadowgate does not come up it doesn't the water of waters is out I was trying to lighten the mood you were doing great so here's how we start on August 24th red alert red alert red alert 70 days out from the election to overshadow the Republican National Convention the Trump is going to speak every night at the deep state has launched even more intense riots police being shot at knock the head with bricks cartilerships being burned down businesses that have like lives matter signs being torched this is the globalist program of total destruction but the people are waking up and the truth is getting out so I think Alex is trolling us by starting a show with a red alert yeah that sounds right that sounds right oh man obviously Alex has no idea what's going on in Kenosha
Starting point is 00:51:48 nor does he even open this episode appearing aware that that is where protests are happening he further doesn't seem to be aware of the inciting incident of the protests but that could also be an instance of convenient ignorance on his part one thing that I find very interesting is how Alex is painting a picture of complete bedlam and using it for his purposes when in reality the situation is for the people experiencing it to decide how it should be used what I mean is basically this if you punch me in the face and I immediately forgive you and we're able to grow through that experience no third party really has the right to use you hitting me for their own ends someone could report that you hit me but the fact that I didn't experience it as you being evil or violent and the fact that we were able to get past it that negates a lot of the negatives that someone
Starting point is 00:52:33 might think about you after the fact you would think what I'm getting at is that Alex is saying that this car dealership was burnt and that's fair enough that is a statement of fact but there's more details that are important for instance ABC 12 in Wisconsin reported that after the fires caused damage at these businesses one of the shop owners that was affected named Mary Losey said quote I can't blame people for being angry and to be honest with you I'm more concerned for the man fighting for his life we had some damaged windows will be OK as for the actual car dealership the owners of that might not have been too worried about the damage either according to a tweet posted by BBC's Ali MacBool he spoke to the owner who claimed that you know they were looking at hundreds of thousands of dollars in damage quote but if it actually gets justice assure burn it 20
Starting point is 00:53:20 times I can't find that being reported anywhere else but this is a professional journalist reporting on a first-hand conversation with a picture of the owner speaking to him so be a really wild thing to fake or embellish yeah but you don't want that getting around it seems like that kind of misreporting could blow up really fast if this guy MacBool was just making up this quote yeah that would be a lightning rod for a lot of people there's like a hundred right wing outlets that would happily amplify this owner saying that the BBC had lied about it yeah yeah yeah the glee with which all media would cover that yeah compared to the collective shrug of a business owner being like I would prefer justice they're like a property damage is wrong this mentality that this guy has is not universal and I'm sure there are some business owners who are pissed off and are taking
Starting point is 00:54:07 this very personally but it does seem like the focus of the coverage of stories like this always tends to prioritize that and ignore people who are just as much victims of property destruction who understand that human lives are always more important than money or things the thing that makes this tidbit particularly glaring is the optics of the car dealership burning in the early morning hours of August 24th we're front and center and the media's coverage of the protests that have broken out the image of the cars burning where the central focus to drive up the fear of the rampaging mob so it kind of makes sense that if that's the centerpiece of the coverage it's relevant to point out that the owner may take a much broader view of social unrest than is easy to report yeah I don't think people would be as emotionally aggravated by a picture of a burnt out car dealership with the owner
Starting point is 00:54:58 standing in front of it giving two big thumbs up like come on guys let's go do it yeah owner of burnt out building says next building come on guys also this is a small point but the talking point that this car dealership had a sign up that said black lives matter is meant to instill fear in alex's audience it shows that these people are just out to destroy they don't even care if you support their cause cannibalize anyone yeah this trivia piece was repeated far and wide but I saw some pictures of the fire that were posted on the law officer dot com and if you look at the sign people are talking about it's clear that it's not the dealership sign it's a marquee for the Bradford community unitarian universalist church which is next door this is a trivial point and I'm not necessarily concerned with whether or not a business had a sign on it I only bring this up to highlight that Alex doesn't do any work because
Starting point is 00:55:46 he doesn't care no one cares no it's hard to care yeah and it's easier to live in a corporate dystopia apparently so for the first six minutes of every hour generally Alex will play a special report he doesn't do that because it's not the most radio station sure sure they do the station identification top of the hour news news and traffic and so he plays I usually skip past it because it's usually someone who does terrible voice over I just can't handle it yeah but I don't know why I stuck around this day just to see now what are they doing and it turns out is John bound sure protesters in Portland Oregon who are well on their way to 100 days of rioting were met with a contingent of patriots supporting blue lives these patriots tend to be older larger and adept at throwing a haymaker I've been in combat and I never want to go back again but I'm telling you what I will save this country if it has to be against
Starting point is 00:56:41 our own citizens it will happen and there's a million people like me and you won't stop us remember back when you said John bound had a good voice there were days we were young once there were days this John bound report sounds incredibly bad in hindsight knowing now what happened in the early morning hours of August 26 when that gunman who come down from Illinois shot and killed multiple protesters in Kenosha doesn't sound good in that report bound plays audio of a veteran named Carlos Zapata from Reading California Zapata spoke at a Shasta County board of supervisors meeting and it was the closest thing to a threat of street violence I've heard ironic to see a Zabata supporting a fascist regime yeah it is a little is a little twist he was pissed about COVID-19 restrictions and it was a mess here's a little section of his rant which
Starting point is 00:57:32 also includes a weird phone notification sound effect that's in the original video but I wanted to point it out because it's a little distracting and I'm telling you right now that right now we're being peaceful and you better be happy that we're good citizens that were peaceful citizens but it's not gonna be peaceful much longer okay and this is in a threat I'm not a criminal I'm telling you good citizens are going to turn to real concern and revolutionary citizens real soon and nobody else is going to say that I'm probably the only person that has a boss say what I'm saying right now that we're building we're organizing with law enforcement or without law enforcement but you won't stop us when time comes because our families are starving and if you don't hear the seriousness of my voice I hope you open your ears you absolutely listen to what I'm saying because this is a warning for what's coming it's not gonna be peaceful much longer it's not gonna be raw raw it's not gonna be
Starting point is 00:58:21 speeches it's not gonna be gathered outside saying a pledge of allegiance it's not gonna be waving flags it's gonna be real when you've seen the things that I've seen I went to war for this country I've seen the ugliest dirtiest part of humanity I've been in combat and I never want to go back again but I'm telling you what I will to save this country if it has to be against our own citizens it will happen and there's a million people like me and you won't stop us that shit is unhinged and it depicts a person who's saying that if the country doesn't agree to ignore public health measures then people like himself would be willing to engage in open combat against their fellow citizens I've seen the ugliest of humanity and I was like fuck yeah let's bring it home it's terrifying when you look at it but I'm gonna be honest when that video first came to my attention I didn't really think much of it
Starting point is 00:59:10 on Alex's show on August 19th he plays that video multiple multiple times and I'm sorry that I experienced it as something that just faded into background noise in the past few months as we went over at the beginning of this episode I've tried to make a point of Alex's increasing trend towards clearly trying to incite violence and honestly it's become hard for me to tell when something is me sounding like a broken record I'll often not bring up things that I've talked about a ton unless there's an evolution or a shift in the narrative and to be fair on the 19th we were pretty focused on Shadowgate there was a little bit of Shadowgate going on everybody who listens to the show must like read the news about Alex and be like guys he has been screaming about how we should be killing everybody every single day for four months
Starting point is 00:59:57 what are you talking about he posted an article on Friday we've been doing this for years now I'd grant that it's unfortunate timing that there was a shooting of protesters in a very close proximity to Alex posting an article that endorses this militia that was there that is unfortunate timing yeah that's not good yeah so with this video of the guy at the meeting the thing that's interesting is that John Bounds report completely misrepresent Sabata's words this rant at the supervisors meeting had nothing to do with civil unrest around police brutality
Starting point is 01:00:33 he was specifically complaining about businesses being closed because of COVID-19 when he says that he'll go to war with his fellow citizens that was a threat about what would happen if the county didn't reopen and people continued to have to wear masks at businesses John Bounds recognized that the language there that was threatening about war with fellow citizens that was really good for the optics surrounding police brutality protests so he took Sabata's comments and applied them to a completely different situation and Jordan what do we call that good reporting Dan
Starting point is 01:01:05 lying oh that's what it was there we go lying it's so insane but that's what I'm talking about when I say that the entire media ecosystem has created an alternate reality this guy is like the government that I support that I love so much has absolutely destroyed the economy in every possible way
Starting point is 01:01:28 they are ruining everybody's lives they're stealing money from all of us they're murdering us they're pulling people off the streets and unmarked fucking bands and do you know who I'm mad at the wall of moms that's who I'm really pissed off at fair enough you know like that's how the it must be and say you must drive yourself mad you know you have to there has to be a part of you that is losing your mind
Starting point is 01:01:50 thinking like trying to control the cognitive dissonance that you're experiencing it feels it feels like it would yeah you have to be exploding right I don't know you think you would but maybe not it's a grim thought I don't understand them maybe it's maybe there's a comfortable comfortability that comes in eventually just like a zen state of hating everyone
Starting point is 01:02:15 so Alex spends a lot of the beginning of this show really just painting a dystopian picture of what it looks like in the ground on the ground in Wisconsin Wisconsin where it looks like again scenes out of a third world collapse or civil war road warrior isn't even strong enough to describe it police getting shot at police being stopped by black lives matter communist checkpoints
Starting point is 01:02:46 warehouses being burned down car dealerships burned down churches burned down street battles everywhere people running up hitting police in the back of the head with bricks total loss of control American flags being guillotined
Starting point is 01:03:05 what they're now rolling guillotines out Sol Jacob in French Revolution 2.0 alright so flags are getting guillotined man I'm cool with Jacob in French Revolution 2.0 at this point it's a weird thing to be included in his list I'm gonna guillotine a flag what's the head of the flag probably the stars
Starting point is 01:03:25 it's the stars right so you gotta chop it in a diagonal yes okay so anyway Alex discusses this this this whole thing there's a hippie with a gun apparently that Alex has a video of this is a black lives matter long-haired hippie
Starting point is 01:03:41 running up with his assault rifle menacing and ordering the police around and the police are so paralyzed that if they do anything that they'll all be given you know the death penalty that they're just letting them do it that idea right there is huge because it's a central theme of much of the right-wing justification for the shooting after the fact the police refuse to restore justice so of course some 17 year old from another state should be the one to meet out that justice
Starting point is 01:04:07 I mean here's Tucker Carlson literally saying that after the shooting Kenosha is devolved into anarchy because the authorities in charge of the city abandoned it people in charge from the governor of Wisconsin on down refused to enforce the law they stood back and they watched Kenosha burn so he really surprised that looting in arson accelerated to murder how shocked are we that 17 year olds with rifles decided they had to maintain order when no one else would very shocked
Starting point is 01:04:37 quite shocked very Tucker's words are an attempt to make what the guy did okay to help his audience reach a place where that act seems justified Alex's words are an attempt to get someone to do what the shooter did yeah they're playing a two-man game here the way Alex is framing this he's calling for one of two things he's saying that the police should take these protesters out and stop being so afraid of getting in trouble
Starting point is 01:05:00 or he's saying that the way the system is set up is such that the police just can't do what needs to be done so we need vigilantes his audience hears him and they understand what he's saying yeah I'm trying really hard like I have been trying very hard to remain calm and not scream because I'm worried that if I start yeah it's just not gonna stop well actually my whole intro just not gonna stop
Starting point is 01:05:22 my whole intro that whole long chunk was really just a way for you slowing me down well no getting me down into a more receptive level I was trying to create a fictional reality where we didn't actually cancel Friday's episode because you were too busy yelling I was very very
Starting point is 01:05:42 I was very very I wasn't good I genuinely I don't know if I could have done it I'm sure I mean we both we both sort of process things in different ways me
Starting point is 01:05:54 thinking thinking meddling with plants you yelling me with a song in my head and a scream in my heart right so Alex you know he sees these these demonstrations on the street this property damage and what have you
Starting point is 01:06:10 and he realizes that hey I remember Project Veritas video that mentioned that remember what the Democrats said on all those hidden Veritas videos a year ago six months ago that the media poo poo we're gonna burn the cities ahead of the election we're gonna burn the cities after the election if Trump wins Alex can't keep his project Veritas videos straight the video that he's referring to is originally used by Veritas to smear Bernie Sanders by interviewing a staffer who's talking shit about how the country will burn if Bernie doesn't win
Starting point is 01:06:41 if Alex wanted to try and use that now since Bernie didn't win the primary I guess he could go for that but it's a bit of a stretch to just rewrite this piece of propaganda to make it about how the Democrats said that cities would burn if Trump was real come on if you can't if you can't update your propaganda you are not doing it right well Alex is totally comfortable changing the points and players in these narratives because he knows they don't mean anything there's no actual truth to preserve in what Veritas puts out so it's pretty easy to just pretend those videos say whatever the fuck you want them to say there's a pretty keen awareness even for Alex that if someone is stupid enough to think project Veritas videos show anything other than bullshit then they're probably stupid enough to believe that the Bernie staffer was talking on behalf of the Democratic Party yeah the entire Democratic Party you know the ones that embraced Bernie's with arms wide open you know they definitely didn't all
Starting point is 01:07:29 organize behind each other to make sure that at no cost would anything good happen to America yeah so a lot of this a lot of this episode at least in the beginning stages of it you know a ton of it is sort of repetitive a car dealership burned you know like that and it's kind of boring so I was trying to find some points where things could get kind of interesting something to talk about because I don't want to just listen to him say tires are burning over and over again that's no good so here's something kind of interesting these criminals have censored everything they've attacked everything no borders no wall no USA at all they have shipped in the fentanyl that's killed millions of 1.4 million died just last year of TB that the Democrats helped ship in and blocked people stopping 1.4 million people did not die of TB last year
Starting point is 01:08:21 did you just say that 1.4 million people died of TB yeah and the way he's talking he definitely is implying that that's in the United States is this is this where are we in the the Rust Bowl like what is happening I assure you if that number was even close to accurate it would be the biggest story around probably way bigger than COVID-19 it be the most insane story in history one year after zero TV after like nine TV does 1.4 million TV does that would be a big story approximately nine thousand people get TB per year in the United States that number has been steadily decreasing every year that the CDC has records for going back to 1953 in which 84,304 people got TB what's going on is that Alex is actually fairly close to the accurate number of how many people died in the entire world
Starting point is 01:09:10 from tuberculosis last year but almost all the cases are in Africa and Southeast Asia the rates are particularly high in developing countries where access to medical care may be limited so TB and children may not be diagnosed unfortunately which leads to many of the deaths there is a vaccine that can be given but its efficacy is limited for instance people living with HIV cannot use it and more generally it doesn't actually create a lifelong immunity so there's still progress to be made on that front Alex wants to use the statistic of 1.4 million people dying of TB but he's using it dishonestly he's lying and saying it's just in the United States and it's because immigrants and refugees are coming in and infecting everyone that's essentially Nazi style propaganda and demonization built out of dishonesty using the statistic as a lie I don't understand so you're saying that somebody saying immigrants and foreigners bringing in disease
Starting point is 01:10:07 is some sort of Nazi kind of thing Dan I'm saying it's Nazi style when did they ever do anything like that that's odd the next thing you know he'll be saying that his enemies are drinking blood that'd be crazy the reality beyond this statistic is that there are a lot of people in the world who are dying from TB and there's a lot of things that we can do if we prioritize the problem creating cheaper high quality tests particularly ones that can be used on infants would make a huge difference and that's something that the government could easily help subsidize or even put regulations on the test manufacturers to help keep prices down so that more money could be directed to researching breakthroughs in better TB vaccines or less complicated drug regimens and if we committed to it and we got lucky there's a really good chance we could get that 1.4 million number down pretty considerably Alex doesn't care about the 1.4 million people dying he only wants to use that number as a prop to demonize his imaginary enemies
Starting point is 01:11:02 he's a piece of shit yeah it's it is the only thing they do everything is wrong we have no solutions you should kill people that's what that's basically what they do now and the solutions that probably could make some difference are global are evil are evil not just we have no solutions we are actively trying to kill all of those solutions with God great so Alex is pretty obsessed with the idea of that all these protesters are trying to create checkpoints sure and one of the reasons that he's doing this is because I think he's noticing there's a lot of videos of people trying to run over protesters yeah that's that's really hard to justify well the way you do it is by reframing all of these instances as people just trying to get out trying to get through points that people have said they've been set up and you know what it's almost like you're admitting that check
Starting point is 01:11:56 points are a bad thing well Alex has an interesting way of looking at this made me laugh out loud okay so I'll just tell you if I'm driving down the road and I see say a forest fire something up ahead and I see police out with their guns out and they're looking for a manhunt or something I'm gonna comply I believe it's lawful but if I pull up to a pack of thugs at a checkpoint pointing guns at me and telling me to pull over well you're not gonna like what happens you're terrorist Alex is trying to pretend that you know Antifa is setting up all these checkpoints which is the narrative that he's working on here but the secondary narrative is that Alex is trying to present himself as the guy who respects lawful policing sure hey man if I saw some cops trying to do their job I'd respect that but not these globalist minion thugs I find this really funny because I know Alex's career in 1999 Alex released a documentary called police state 2000 and approximately 15 of the first 25 minutes of it is Alex yelling at cops running a checkpoint
Starting point is 01:12:59 here's some fun clips of Alex really respecting these cops who are trying to do their job now we're about to go out and speak to some of the police and expose what they're doing and hopefully reactivate their conscience we are entering the eye of the checkpoint caution reduce speed checkpoint ahead isn't isn't that loving children hello Poppin SS I wouldn't have said that Alex that we have to pause it there that's my favorite yeah I wouldn't have said that Alex Alex's cameraman Mike Hanson coming in
Starting point is 01:13:37 I wouldn't have started there buddy well because he's saying that because in the video this is them driving through a checkpoint and Alex is yelling at the cops who are standing on the side of the road and it actually kind of hurts his argument that this is some kind of a random capricious thing because he's calling them Nazis and they don't pull him over no they don't have a problem with it get the search lines now who my friend I tell you this is it guys they're laughing get shot
Starting point is 01:14:11 they're over there laughing about the death of this country look at them over there laughing about the death of our nation I got it over there thinking it's funny things are pretty sad in Alex's career before 9-11 yeah when you really get down to it his career has basically been the evolution from him being an outright whiny baby to him being an unapologetically racist baby yeah that's kind of the that's that's his Pokemon evolution
Starting point is 01:14:36 I'm really I'm really struggling with his first did he tell me if I'm driving and there's a forest fire in front of me and I see some cops at this checkpoint yeah that's an interesting thought I'm gonna stop yeah but if there are thugs at the checkpoint I'm not gonna stop different checkpoint not it the thugs aren't running a fire see now that's kind of what I heard where he's like if they're thugs in the way of my forest fire I'm driving right into that forest fire
Starting point is 01:15:00 I don't believe that's that's interesting because that is a possible interpretation of what he said that is that is one reading of it I'm gonna drive into a fucking forest fire if it ain't cops I think the accurate reading of that is what he's saying is cops are setting up checkpoints for your safety whereas there no no no he's saying that there's this one this firefight checkpoint and then there's a completely separate in the middle of a city
Starting point is 01:15:26 sure checkpoint that's where the globalist I understand that I he's now we need to even take a step further back though and that is the why do they have this checkpoint at a forest fire where the cops have their guns out what are they doing how are they protecting people from the fire with their guns well our slaves in California are all sick with plague so we're trying to shoot the fire I don't know how to deal with that
Starting point is 01:15:54 I guess it's an option yeah so we get back to the Kenosha stuff here and Alex is you know just really heightening armed BLM Soros terrorist setting up a checkpoint and ordering the police armored vehicle to stop and the police have been told by their leftist controllers their leftist supervisors that they will submit to this so here's the footage so here you see Alex heightening and reinforcing the narrative that the police are powerless to stop what's happening in Kenosha due to what Alex is clearly presenting as the brass telling them that they have to submit to the protesters
Starting point is 01:16:30 there have been many complaints that sound very similar to this from the left wing but the difference is that in a lot of those cases the left wing complaints include proof there's documentation of things like the police being in communication with the proud boys and Joey Gibson coordinating with them there's a video of the police in Kenosha thanking the militia folks for being there that night of the shooting of the protesters there's a lot more evidence that goes along with the argument that the police do seem to make a habit out of siding with the right wing folks in these protest situations but even so I've not heard people on the left really making the argument that because the police seem to make a habit of siding with right wing fascist types that means it's open season for vigilanteism I recognize and realize that some people may struggle with this but there's a massive difference between one side saying the cops won't shoot these people I don't like so I have to
Starting point is 01:17:20 and the other side saying the police and the state are not taking our needs seriously so we're going to protest and some property is probably going to get damaged so his main problem with Tiananmen Square was that the guy wouldn't get out of the way I mean you know the cops so he's so the I mean that's the California China didn't have a leftist government running everything at the same time the real problem was that the cops didn't you know they let it get to that point see there we go the cops were powerless to stop the guy from standing with their armored car
Starting point is 01:18:04 right yeah gotcha gotcha okay yeah it's it's convoluted yeah we're doing great we're doing great so Alex take some calls on this episode and something that's kind of fun I don't know if it's fun it's fun for me I was looking I was desperate you were looking for anything so he's talking to this caller who's trying to make an anti-vax argument by appealing to the Nuremberg code
Starting point is 01:18:29 great love it and it's really this this this is really interesting to me but this is also in that state where I was like I might be completely losing perspective this might not be interesting to anybody okay so Alex discusses the Nuremberg code here a little here we go and you're right that's where we get the precursor to the Geneva convention and in the Geneva convention it says that you cannot test things on people unless you have informed consent and they agree
Starting point is 01:19:00 because of what Joseph Mingola and the Nazis did and so what you're saying is incredibly important this is in response to like I said a caller rambling about how you shouldn't have to get a vaccine because the Nuremberg code says they can't force experimental things on people it's a lot of nonsense for a hundred different reasons but the only part I find interesting is that Alex should definitely be opposed to the Geneva convention no no no no no also there's the small point that the first Geneva convention where international rules regarding the treatment of wounded soldiers and prisoners of war were established took place in 1864 long before the Nuremberg trials
Starting point is 01:19:37 no no no either way Alex is talking about the Geneva convention that took place in 1949 after World War II which was the fourth Geneva convention and based on his supposed political beliefs he should hate them the Geneva rules are based on multilateral treaties that are in affront to any nation's sovereignty their rules the countries are bound to including the prohibition of taking hostages well let's hold on about bound to help forcing people into armed service or willfully denying someone accused of war crimes giving you have to give them a fair trial
Starting point is 01:20:12 and they're bound to these rules by international law that's globalism shit that's pretty much the most simple and he should absolutely hate it because he's cheering for the cops to violate those same Geneva conventions on a daily basis interesting breaches of the Geneva convention are enforceable universally which is to say it doesn't matter where the crime was committed and you know it gets so you're saying that there's no sovereignty in it
Starting point is 01:20:38 regardless of where the crimes committed it gets tried by whom you guessed it the United States the fucking UN Security Council oh no well not directly yeah when there are breaches the UN Security Council establishes an international criminal tribunal and then they try the case
Starting point is 01:20:56 I recognize there are all sorts of points that you even brought up that you could you know you could bring them up but out ineffectively the Geneva conventions are applied and that's a fine discussion for another day my only interest right now is the fact that Alex should fucking hate the Geneva conventions if he wants to be philosophically consistent based on his fetish for nationalism he should be calling for the destruction of the Geneva conventions and arguing that it's each nation's responsibility to have their own rules that achieve what the Geneva conventions do he can be against countries taking hostages and torturing while still being against the Geneva conventions and he absolutely 100% needs to be if he's serious about his beliefs while we're at it he should be super upset about the Nuremberg trials
Starting point is 01:21:37 this guy hates globalism the fear of global government keeps him awake at night but for some reason he's fine with binding international laws that prohibit nations from acting in certain ways well you're against Nazis that's weird yeah I guess I'm glad that he supports the Geneva conventions but he doesn't well yeah
Starting point is 01:21:58 verbally verbally okay but I'm still not going to give him a pass for this glaring hypocrisy the point I'm trying to make is that Alex Jones is not a serious person he doesn't even know what his alleged beliefs entail because he hasn't actually sat down and thought them out he's perfectly happy to yell about nationalism all day when it's a mask that he can use to hide his white identity beliefs in opposition to social justice but weirdly when his belief in nationalism would require him to take an obviously unpopular stance like opposing the international prohibition on killing prisoners of war nationalism isn't so important anymore
Starting point is 01:22:32 fuck this ignorant low effort piece of shit I mean it's just old people being like socialism is wrong and it's going to get us all killed well I mean I'm on a fixed income because social security is taking care of me and you're like fucking shut up just shut up but I you know it's moments like that where you really you really sort of the clouds part and you realize that like Alex you're just some dumb fuck who read these John Birch society things and then adopted all of that and then got fucking freaked out on weird conspiracies for a while and now you yell about the devil you don't even know what your beliefs entail
Starting point is 01:23:13 if he was up here talking about how like all of these things that are really good and allow us to you know try the Nazis after World War Two fuck those things they're wrong those people should be freed and given a trial in Germany they committed their crimes in Germany it should only be the German government totally but he doesn't do that because he knows how fucking hard of an argument that is to make because it's ridiculous it's nonsense yeah I mean there's there's two things which is first they're all held to this weird subconscious standard by which progress becomes accepted like that like you know Jeff Sessions is not going to go back and be like well according to my ideology slavery is still fine I mean his ideology is fine with slavery I mean he's not going to say that do you know what I mean I mean sort of and then the other thing is that the it doesn't matter if what they're they're not trying to make you
Starting point is 01:24:11 afraid of real things they're just trying to make you afraid it doesn't matter if what you're afraid of is real it doesn't matter if Tucker Carlson is actually telling you the truth about how fucking in flames it's that you think it is it's that you are constantly afraid right and that fear is what's going to lead to situations where some asshole is bringing guns and then he starts shooting people yeah like they just want you agitated all the time I don't disagree with that agitation being a desired outcome but at the same time specifically what I'm complaining about is that Alex is into global he is of course he's into globalism because it makes sense sure it makes more sense than not so in this next clip Alex makes some shoot up well you know doctors have the third lowest lifespan in the in the United States sure why not black men doctors and then if any profession doctors live less long lives than combat vets so you can find an article in the scientific American from 1850s they refuse Alex's claims and you can find a study from the office of national statistics in the UK that definitely also contradicts him generally speaking physicians are near the top of most life expectancy tables and some of the reasons they're usually offered to explain this is they're typically well compensated they have an understanding of health because of their profession which often leads to healthier choices in terms of things like diet properly and they have jobs that often require a fair amount of physical activity walking for patients rooms and what have you and so not to be discounted probably a sense of job satisfaction and that's mentioned to certain revered position within society as the healers yeah and almost everything I can find on the subject people who work in manual labor fields
Starting point is 01:25:59 and fields like transportation where you might get exposed to high levels of pollution have much lower life expectancies than doctors Alex seems to just be making that shit up black men do have lower life expectancies than their white counterparts but they're also outpacing white people in terms of rising life expectancies so that number might be a bit closer in the future let's fucking hope so as for gay men this idea was a big talking point in the right wing during the 2012 election cycle. There was a bit of a trouble surrounding a guy named Bob Marshall who's running for the 2012 GOP primary trying to get one of the Virginia Senate seats. He's also a huge homophobe prior to his Senate run he'd lost it earlier Senate primary but was a member of the House of Delegates in Virginia where in 2012 he successfully blocked the nomination of an openly gay man Tracy Thorn Begland who had been nominated to be a district judge. Marshall justified his opposition to the nomination saying quote you could preside as a district judge for a marriage of two guys if you wanted to in violation of the law. Moreover if you have a bar room fight between a homosexual and heterosexual I'm concerned about possible bias. Bob Marshall is a huge asshole when he was asked about his actions Marshall pointed to a 1997 study that reflected a decreased life expectancy between 8 and 21 years in gay and bisexual men living in Vancouver from 1987 to 1992. I wonder if there would be anything.
Starting point is 01:27:27 The authors of that study have come out and said that these numbers are no longer relevant and they really reflected the HIV AIDS crisis and how heavily affected the gay community was by that condition during that time period which is still an issue but it's not nearly as bad as it was at that point. For some context the CDC reported 36.3 deaths per 100,000 people from HIV AIDS in 1995 compared to 2.7 people per 100,000 in 2010. As we make improvements on understanding and treating this condition the gap between life expectancies will become even smaller. There's a sharp decrease in HIV AIDS which was the main driver of the decreased life expectancy in the gay and bisexual men in the 1997 study that was used by Bob Marshall as a defense for his outright and unjustifiable bigotry. Since he got heat from the press about it and he stood his ground the talking point has since been repeated by members of the right wing when they want to make their homophobia seem grounded in a statistic. In 2013 the Virginia House of Delegates had another vote and they confirmed Tracy Thorne Begland as a district judge much to the chagrin of dumb dumb Bob Marshall. Take that Dick Wad. Anyway the point here is that Alex constantly just makes up bullshit that he expects his audience to accept his research truth when reality most of it is just stuff he's pulling out of thin air or some bigoted right wing talking point that he kind of remembers hearing at some point.
Starting point is 01:28:48 Yep. Nothing means anything. No. So the RNC was happening and Alex was thrilled about Trump giving speeches. Proud to say I didn't watch a single second of it Dan. No I didn't. I didn't watch the RNC or the DNC. Nope.
Starting point is 01:29:03 I don't think I had. I just didn't have time. I just don't have the heart or the energy. I just can't do it. I hate them all. Well Alex is really excited that Trump didn't go virtual. Sure. No of course not.
Starting point is 01:29:16 He's going with the virtual cult event where everybody stays 20 feet from each other is now six feet isn't enough and wear the stupid mask. So he's being aroundly criticized for that. It's great that Alex thinks it's great that Trump went ahead with his convention in the middle of a pandemic. It's really great and awesome. In unrelated news ABC reported on Friday that at least four people who are at the RNC gathering in Charlotte tested positive for COVID-19. Two of them support staff and two attendees. Trump originally was planning to give a keynote speech in Jacksonville Florida but actually had to cancel that entire part of the RNC because of COVID-19. Actually I lied.
Starting point is 01:29:52 Trump originally had planned to accept the nomination in a speech in Charlotte. But according to an MPR article from June 11th quote President Trump will formally accept the nomination as the Republican Party's choice for president in Jacksonville Florida instead of Charlotte, North Carolina in late August. Following a dispute between Trump and North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper regarding safety precautions for the large scale gathering amid the coronavirus pandemic. Yeah. So he was supposed to give a speech in Charlotte but got into a fight with the governor about safety precautions in a pandemic. Right. Then he moved his speech to Jacksonville but realized there's absolutely no way to do that safely considering the surge of COVID-19 cases. Florida's a fire.
Starting point is 01:30:28 So he moved it back to Charlotte where at least four people involved got tested positive. Well there you go. I can't put this more simply. This is stupid shit and all of it is unnecessary and childish. Like it can't, you know, it's just, just, we just, I don't want anybody to die but you need to be in the hospital at the right time. Do you know what I mean? Like let's get them in the hospital when they, when something big was going to happen so they can't do anything about it. Just keep them away. Like keep them away.
Starting point is 01:30:54 Like sitting down and realizing this back and forth of Trump's RNC plans, like how stupid it is. It's in the middle of a pandemic, Dan. I felt really intensely embarrassed. Oh, no, every morning. And I think it was even worse than like, I traveled abroad when Bush was president. Yeah. I was an American in Europe when Bush was president. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:20 I was embarrassed then. I feel very similarly now. This is very embarrassing. I did a set in London almost because that was what like our third week doing the show. It was pretty early. Really on. And I did a set in London and the very first words I said were just like, I'm American. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:31:39 Just sorry guys. I'm sure I feel that I'm sure they hear a lot of times more. 10 times more right now. So you ever Google yourself? I Googled myself one time. Didn't go well. Well, you learned your lesson. I think Alex Googles himself a lot.
Starting point is 01:31:54 I believe that. You know, every morning I sit there and my wife's like, why do you like Googling your name? I said, I don't like it. It's like waiting to be punched in the stomach. I need to see the new lawsuit, the new attack, the new deep state operation against us. It's part of the war. So like Googling yourself is how you find out that you've been sued. That's not good.
Starting point is 01:32:12 No, that's not good. Fire your lawyer. Get somebody to mail it to you first. Yeah. Also, man, if he Googles himself, there's no way he doesn't know about this show. No kidding. Yeah. No kidding.
Starting point is 01:32:23 Get the fuck out of here. You constantly Googling yourself, starting your show with red alert, red alert, red alert. Gee, that's such a like, I don't understand those guys. That's people get off on that shit of just like constantly scrolling through to see what terrible things people are saying. Yeah. It's a very unhealthy. It is.
Starting point is 01:32:40 It's like you reading the reviews of our show. Yeah. Yeah. It's not, it's not a healthy behavior. No, not always. So Alex has a bit of a guest. It's not a guy I'd heard on the show before and in advance I'll tell you dude sucks. Thanks for having me, Alex.
Starting point is 01:32:56 It is absolute total lawlessness. There's a guy named Drew Hernandez who was on the scene in Kenosha. Oh, God. And his claim to fame is now that he is, he got some of the videos that have been circulating. And so the right wing media is really amplifying. Yeah. Anarchy. And it's obvious that these Marxist agendas are now beginning to play out in our real world.
Starting point is 01:33:23 When I showed up last night, literally right when I showed up, there's a gigantic, there's like three huge garbage trucks just lined up on fire. And then out of nowhere, there's this police squad truck that's being surrounded by Black Lives Matter militants armed with, it appeared to be AR-15s multiple, literally just pointing them at the police officers as if they are policing the police, as if there's some kind of new shadow police that's policing the streets. So Alex has taken some calls and now he has this guest on his show and worried about the hour 40 mark of the program.
Starting point is 01:33:58 And as these two were talking, I realized that Alex hasn't even mentioned Jacob Blake's shooting at all. There's plenty of discussion of these BLM and Antifa rioters and how they're apparently the new cops in the city. But if you were listening to this in a vacuum, you couldn't be faulted for thinking there was no incident that sparked these protests. This episode is from August 24th and approximately 5, 10 p.m. on August 23rd, Jacob Blake was shot in the back multiple times by a Kenosha police officer while three
Starting point is 01:34:27 of his children were in the car. Thankfully, Blake survived, but according to his father, he's paralyzed below the waist in its unclear if he'll ever walk again. I'm not really interested in litigating the arguments about whether or not Blake is a great person or whether or not it matters if someone has a knife in their car. The bottom line is that nothing that people have suggested to justify this justifies a police officer shooting someone like this. There's a reason that people were protesting and some of the property damage broke out.
Starting point is 01:34:53 It's because he had another unarmed black man got shot by the cops and there wasn't appropriate action being taken against the officers involved. The officer shot Blake's put on administrative leave later, but it's clear that people weren't accepting that as an appropriate response. The cop fired seven bullets at this guy. There's no reason to think that that wasn't something he thought could kill him or at least, you know, at least it's incredibly negligent in weapons use. Whether this was a cop trying to kill a person or a cop who's incompetent enough to
Starting point is 01:35:24 shoot a person like this, that's not someone you really want on the streets with a gun and a badge. Kenosha's not my city, so I have no right to say what they should or should not demand of their officials and law enforcement, but if I lived there, I don't think I'd be satisfied with administrative leave as a response. I think you could probably go by the Geneva Conventions and do a better job than what's going on. Globalism.
Starting point is 01:35:46 Yeah. Anyway, the point here is that Alex hasn't talked about that really at all. That's a surprise. It seems like it was... He's kind of... No, that's a big piece of context, Dan. He's kind of pretending that the protest is just happening randomly. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:58 Which is irresponsible. Yeah, it's probably a flash mob, Dan. It could possibly be an organic response to something. It seems really weird. Anyway, Dr. Hernandez straight up sucks. I believe Black Lives Matter is a white, excuse me, a black supremacist movement. That was about all I needed to write off everything this dude might say. Just fuck this dude.
Starting point is 01:36:19 Bye. So he hosts a YouTube show called Lives Matter, and it's basically all just videos... Sorry, I just had a visceral boo right there. All these videos just have like clickbait-ass titles that all appear to basically just be anti-left-wing content. Sure. Anything that seems progressive. Let's make a video talking about it being stupid.
Starting point is 01:36:40 It's a boring grift, but it's gotten him on Alex's show. And according to his Twitter feed, it appears that he was invited to be a guest on fascist sympathizer programs like Tucker Carlson and Tim Poole's dumb webcast. Great. This guy's a real shithead, and looking over his Twitter feed, it just makes me sad. He posted a video from Breitbart about people yelling at Rand Paul with a caption, quote, racist BLM terrorists intimidate Rand Paul and his wife all the way to their hotel. Holy fucking Christ.
Starting point is 01:37:06 You can hear the racist BLM woman in the background making vile threats, which actually reminds me. What's the day? How many days? It's August. It's been quite a while. It has been a while since. We needed to check in on whether or not Rand Paul is accepted.
Starting point is 01:37:19 It's August 30th, so that puts us at almost a full month. Wow. Maybe a little bit more, and Rand Paul has run away from more people than debates that he has accepted. I think that's 100 percent true. I don't know if you can confirm this, but I heard a rumor that actually that whole situation with Rand Paul, it was people demanding that he debate me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:38 Yeah. That's what I heard. That's why he was running so fast. Yeah. Didn't you see him scared for his life? That's how terrified he is of debating me. Yeah. So if you go to Drew's, uh, uh, his Twitter page, you can scroll through these videos
Starting point is 01:37:51 from Kenosha about the marauding mobs of protesters, and a lot of it is pretty laughable. There's a video purporting to be people trying to torch a house, and it's just a firework. There are a number of videos that are supposedly depicting leftist violence in the streets that are just fireworks like this dude's a shithead. Yeah. It's, it's hard not to shake with rage whenever you see the, the, the twin nightmares of the far right, them being the out and out aggressors, the nightmarish fascists with their boots on everybody's fucking throat.
Starting point is 01:38:27 And at the same time, them being afraid for their lives, they're terrified. They're the victims of all this. Sparkler. They're so scared. It's a sparkler. Yeah. Right. You can't, you can't even buy those in Illinois.
Starting point is 01:38:38 Yeah. There's a real cringy post where he tweeted a trailer for Dinesh D'Souza's new film and said, quote, Dinesh D'Souza redpilled me in 2016 2020 is now your turn. That should make you weep for yourself. If Dinesh, look, you can get redpilled. Sure. Fine. Sure.
Starting point is 01:38:58 But if Dinesh D'Souza is doing it, you suck even for you. Yeah. You suck. On the lighter side, there's a hilarious string of four tweets from the night of August 23rd, where Drew repeatedly posts that he's either in Minneapolis or Minnesota, all of which have replies from Drew saying, quote, correction Wisconsin. He was out in Kenosha. He kept saying he was in Minneapolis or Minnesota.
Starting point is 01:39:20 It just doesn't matter. Nope. It just doesn't matter. Yeah. There's an amazing level of incompetence that's completely accepted by right wing propagandist to need people to build their narrative. Excepted celebrated, lionized worship. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:39:35 I don't think the Tucker is going to get him on and brag about where he was in the wrong state. That's I mean, just in general, incompetence is a weapon for them. Not a deficiency. You're not going to bring it up. Yeah. That's a good point. But you're going to allow it because he's doing what you want.
Starting point is 01:39:51 You don't need to worry. But if you don't ask questions that you don't want to hear the answers to, they might as well not have happened. Right? Yeah. What made me stop my research into Drew Hernandez was a tweet that he posted about one of the protesters in Kenosha who was shot on Tuesday night. I know people I've decided to play the game where they take people who were shot and point
Starting point is 01:40:08 to something that they may have done in the past that makes them somehow deserving of being shot. And that's disgusting. But it's also pretty standard and boring. Yeah. People are doing. Yeah. Drew, on the other hand, is a sociopathic monster.
Starting point is 01:40:20 On August 27th, Drew posted a video he apparently shot of Joseph Rosenbaum, one of the people who was killed in the shootings. Rosenbaum was arguing with someone and he was yelling, shoot me at them. Drew tweeted this video saying, quote, technically Mr. Rosenbaum gave consent to be shot by militia. Cool. Fuck this dude. Wow. Yep.
Starting point is 01:40:41 Wow. I understand this kind of thing. You know, like when we talked about the shooting of Levoix Finnecombe during the Malhoor wildlife refuge standoff, I bet we mentioned that he kept yelling at the cops, you're going to have to shoot me. That might have been like someone might see that is distasteful. I feel like the difference here, though, is that we didn't make jokes less than 48 hours after he was killed.
Starting point is 01:41:04 And Levoix was reaching into his jacket pocket where police did find a loaded semi-automatic like also the footage that Drew is making a joke of about like it's from earlier. It's not connected to the shooting itself. Fuck this guy. Fuck this guy. Yeah. Wow. I get where you're just like, I you I've given up on.
Starting point is 01:41:26 There's no point. You're gone. You're you. I have no interest in talking to you or you existing at all to me. Yeah. But he's not the only one who has some firsthand experience with streets. We hear here about another city that's going to be covered Savannah Hernandez and Gregory should have been kicking butt in Portland with their own this insane stuff in the street
Starting point is 01:41:47 battles. They just got back late last night. They're going to be in studio. So it's all crazy. And by the way, when I tell you, you need storeable food. We have the best quality ready to ship. Are we back to food? Yep.
Starting point is 01:41:59 Storeable food. We're back to food. Well, you got to get scared of these things that are going on in the streets. Jesus. They're going to overthrow the government and you're going to need food. Man. So should have known food was coming back. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:10 Drew is really annoying. Yeah. I would say his vocal patterns very. I wasn't a fan. No. I was in the wrong way. And here's an example of it in action that just is like, blah. So my message right now to people that might be, you know, sitting on the fence, just hoping
Starting point is 01:42:26 that Donald Trump will fix it or just hoping that, you know, like guys like myself or Alex Jones or Savannah Hernandez or Owen Schreuer will fix it. How old are you? We can only do so much. We can only say so much. We can only cover so much. It's the everyday American that has to stand up, that has to speak up, that has to get up and do something and say something themselves.
Starting point is 01:42:49 That's why we have our freedoms. That's why men and women that have gone before us have bled and that have died for this moment, Alex, for this moment, because whenever freedom is on the line, sacrifices have to be made. And that's where we are in 2020 right now. I mean this with all the disrespect that my words imply, but this drew guy is the worst to listen to. Once more, we enter the breach on this St. Crispin's Day. Dan, we're going to do it guys.
Starting point is 01:43:19 I think Alex is eating lunch, so he's just letting him talk uninterrupted for long stretches and like you saying how old are you is really like appropriate because I just think he sounds like a child. What are you doing? He sounds like a child whining about how life isn't fair because someone took a toy he likes away. Nobody's nobody's cast in this dude is William Wallace. Let's put it that way.
Starting point is 01:43:41 He just starts talking and then he starts exciting himself when he ends up getting into the topic of how important he is and how Trump is fighting a Marxist takeover of the country. And honestly, I don't think he even knows what Marxism is. This dude has the buzzwords down and he gets that most of the right wing media persona's job is trying to incite anger from the left. But beyond that, I see no evidence he has any idea what he's talking about. Until I can find evidence to the contrary, I'm going to picture him as a little cartoon
Starting point is 01:44:08 of a child in a sailor suit who's yelling that he wants an oversized lollipop. I was going to go with the baby with the cigar, you know, but with a higher pitched voice. Yeah, it could be. So fuck that dude. Savannah Hernandez comes in and discusses how she had the time she had in Portland. And let me tell you, did you go to a record store? No, although, although there is a real twist to to her, her tail was like a civil war out there. And you know, Alex, you always use the word deranged when you're talking about
Starting point is 01:44:40 these leftists. And I was talking to Greg about this when we were there. You always say that they're deranged, they're demonic, they're foamy at the mouth. And I always thought it was a bit dramatic, but going to Portland was exactly that. The people there are demonic, they're evil, they're angry, they're deranged. This is tough because by the time this episode is being prepared, there was a shooting in Portland on Saturday night. At this point, I don't know enough about it to say who the victim was or who the shooter was, but it appears to be yet another unacceptable act of violence that may have been involved
Starting point is 01:45:14 in some protests. If it was a right wing person who pulled the trigger, then I hope they get arrested. If it was a left wing person who did it, I hope they get arrested too. Killing people is not cool, full stop. That said, beyond my generalized opposition to killing people, I have no idea what the circumstances of this are. So I really can't comment on much more. I do want to just say that Savannah can go fuck herself because she didn't go to Portland
Starting point is 01:45:36 to report on anything. She went there to hang out with Patriot Prayer and the Proud Boys. The other thing I want to say is that this episode is deeply and almost entirely about stoking fears and heightening tensions surrounding these street protests. Alex spent a long time yelling about the car dealership in Kenosha burning, but ignored the shooting of Jacob Blake. Then he interviewed Drew Hernandez about how he was in Kenosha and BLM is a black supremacist group and interviewed as very clearly intended to paint the protesters in Kenosha as an existential
Starting point is 01:46:07 threat, not just to some buildings, but to the very existence of America. Then he has Savannah in here talking shit about running around some weird assholes in Portland. It's weird and I'm almost certain it's not intentional, but this is one of the most singularly focused episodes of Alex's show that I've heard in a long time. There's some random instances of him getting lost in the woods a little bit, like talking about TB or nurses or that kind of thing. But in terms of the content he's actually dedicating time to, it's pretty much entirely left wing
Starting point is 01:46:37 protests are the biggest threat in the world. Looks pretty bad in hindsight. I mean, for fascists, probably, I think I think one fundamental thing that drives me insane about these people is just like all the left wing protest, they're foaming at them out, they're demonic. One side of the line has medics and the other one doesn't. Well, actually, one side cares enough about people to have medics. You'll learn and I would guarantee this through fucking clenched teeth.
Starting point is 01:47:14 If one of those Patriot prayer people went up to a medic needing assistance, they would fucking get it. Yeah, I believe. I believe that's true as well. I don't know if the right wing side of things doesn't have medics. So I don't want to say that for sure. But Savannah actually has some bad news for you. Oh, what's that?
Starting point is 01:47:36 Those aren't actually medics. Oh, of course. Well, of course, that's the trick, isn't it? Those are secret antifa. Of course, they're secret antifa. But we'll get to that later. Oh, God. So one of the things that I think is really interesting too about the framing of these
Starting point is 01:47:49 people is like demonic foaming at the mouth and stuff. Is that they also have to like Savannah has to wrestle with the idea that like a lot of people in Portland who aren't involved in the protests support them. Yeah. So how do you do that? Oh, I know. But a lot of people don't know is that the people in those neighborhoods are actually encouraging the marchers.
Starting point is 01:48:10 They're standing on their balconies and their porches and they're clapping. They're saying you're here. You're you're doing a great job. Thank you for everything that you do. And that's what made me realize that they've been allowed to do this for so long. That's blue cities attack on the rest of the country. Exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:48:23 That's exactly what this is. The people in Portland have allowed this to fester and turn into this huge mess and they're now trying to branch out off into the rest of America. They're planning on going to Kentucky. We've seen them in Charlotte. They were in Wisconsin and they're going to continue to branch out the closer we get to the election. So it's not that these communities understand what these protests are actually about and
Starting point is 01:48:43 they're about issues that have directly impacted their lives and they support what is going on. It's an attack on the rest of the country. I'm really starting to think they're just ignoring that Portland has a Democrat mayor that is essentially condoning the violence against protesters at this point. Yeah. It's not outright encouraging it. Doesn't that seem like something that they would Jordan.
Starting point is 01:49:05 That's way too much detail. You are right. That's true. That's fair. You're right. We can't do that because all we're doing here is making broad swings. Sure. It's blue cities.
Starting point is 01:49:16 It's anyway. Antifa super organized. Everyone says that it's not like an actual group, but they're like better organized than most. They're so organized. They're secretly organized. And it's so well organized. Alex, the media keeps trying to tell us that Antifa is not a well organized militia that
Starting point is 01:49:32 Antifa is fake. What me and Greg went and witnessed, they have vehicle convoys, they have people on moped. They have their own press. They're very well organized. They know exactly what they're doing and they're coming to your neighborhood because this is the Democrats plan to take over the election to take over America. Every single day, we see a new city being burned down and you imagine a new city being
Starting point is 01:49:51 burned down. I mean, I mean, literally, this will be who will be ruling over you in a FEMA camp is one of these degenerate child molesters, because most of them have studied their MO. They're child molesters. We'll be right back. Cool. Most of them studied their MO. Study the MO.
Starting point is 01:50:07 Doesn't mean anything. I really. Man. Yep. I wonder what Jesus would have done if Facebook was around. You know, he would have been like, let's hold on with the violence here, guys. But I mean, you're going to put with all this fucking. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:25 Yeah. So in his next clip, we get confirmation of something that I expected from the beginning and that is that they just went to Portland because they're friends with the Proud Boys and Patriot prayer. Of course. And of course that's the case. Gregory says as much. And then he brings up something that took me in a flight of fancy.
Starting point is 01:50:45 Savannah has been bugging me forever about going somewhere and getting into the heat. Mostly she was talking about Portland. But then just recently she was talking about Chicago. And I just asked her, why not Portland? And then we just asked our news director, Rob Dew, if we knew anything about perhaps the Proud Boys going to Portland or anywhere. And then he inquired and right away got a reply that they were going to Portland, which was the first we heard of it.
Starting point is 01:51:08 So we immediately picked Portland. You picked Portland because you asked a where the Proud Boys going to be. That's not good as as a reporter. Yeah. I wanted to present a balanced view of how the Proud Boys are the best people on the planet. Right. And I really had no interest in anything else.
Starting point is 01:51:27 They're fun. Now that was they like me. Not them. That was obvious. And so like I was more surprised that he just directly said that seems kind of gauche come to Chicago. Yeah. Come on, dude.
Starting point is 01:51:39 Now that would have come on. Come on Savannah. I would be interested to see if they'd run away from me. I would. I would. Absolutely. I don't know. They wouldn't recognize you.
Starting point is 01:51:49 But the moment they would hear your voice and be like, no, I don't feel like a radio guy. I don't know the situation. That's making way too much of an assumption of like broad. They don't listen to familiarity. They don't actually listen. Yeah. They have no idea.
Starting point is 01:52:02 The fan of the flight of fancy that I had was involved with me running into them. And then just talking about two thousand nine narratives. Yeah. Like talking about stuff that used to be really important like being an old info warrior. Yeah. Yeah. Like, hey man, we need to fix this stuff. Do you know about these roads like that?
Starting point is 01:52:22 So try to try to slide your way through. Yeah. It's just like I'm a classic info wars fan. I don't like this new coke shit. No. Come on. No, no, no, no. I'm done with your stochastic terror.
Starting point is 01:52:34 No, no, no, no. I wouldn't even pretend to wouldn't even bring it up. I would pretend that I still think in fours is what it was in two thousand nine. I'd pretend like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, people talk about Trump. Yeah. Great, great, great. What I'm concerned about is that goddamn road. Are they going to still build that road?
Starting point is 01:52:48 Yeah. I want to talk about the ports. I wonder how they would respond better. I bet they'd one have a complete grasp of all of those narratives, just completely forgotten. We totally understand our editorial position. Re what what days were those? Yeah, I just think that would be really fun to put Hernandez was nine in 2009 Dan.
Starting point is 01:53:16 So in this next clip, this is where my mind got blown listening to this. Savannah Hernandez was apparently on the scene and there for a monumental event. Okay, but what I want people to notice to because there's a guy there's a reporter for vice right now. He gets one of the proud boys came and broke his fingers with a baton. First off, he was in the heat of the battle. I was standing right there. I got that exact same shot.
Starting point is 01:53:40 Yeah, they throw themselves the middle of the battle and then and then selectively go I'm a victim. Exactly. But I want to point something out. So Antifa has this very well figured out. They have Antifa press a lot of the people in those videos that have press helmets and press vests are not pressed. They're with Antifa.
Starting point is 01:53:56 So this supposed vice reporter that Savannah is referring to, I think I know who we're talking about. Robert Evans. Oh, shit. Our worlds are getting too close to each other strange. On August 22nd, when he was out reporting on the confrontation that was going down between the proud boys and left wing protesters, a guy who has since been identified by bell and cat just started swinging his baton around and hit Robert breaking his hand.
Starting point is 01:54:18 I've watched a fair amount of Robert streams from the protests that have been happening in Portland. And I don't think it's fair to say that he's quote with Antifa, obviously he's opposed to fascism. So there's that. But he does make a point to bring up that when he's reporting, he doesn't get involved in the protest outside of like helping someone who's heard. Even if he supports one side, there's a press hat he's literally and figuratively wearing.
Starting point is 01:54:41 What's interesting to me, though, is that let's pretend Robert is actually there quote unquote with Antifa. If that's true, how's that any different than what Savannah's doing? Great Reeds said they chose to go to Portland because they could hang out with the proud boys. She's there with the proud. Explicitly and definitively there is someone posing as a journalist who's actually with a group.
Starting point is 01:55:02 There you go. It seems very weird that she's basically pointing a finger at Robert, which if anyone takes a second to think about is an indictment that applies even more to herself. She's not very good at this. Don't think too hard. Also, they're doing is what we're doing, but they're doing it. So it's OK that we're doing it. I also I reached out to Robert for comment and I was as a press time.
Starting point is 01:55:24 I learned that he does not work for vice. OK, I was going to say he wasn't there for vice. No, I wrote him. My question was, how do you respond to the accusation that you work for vice? I do not work for vice. So yeah, that's interesting. That's fun. Like they and the thing about it, though, is they so well know why they have to have
Starting point is 01:55:47 that, you know, there have to be independent press on the ground. They know everybody knows why somebody like Robert Evans has to be there because you can't fucking trust an outsider. You can't trust a national news media source because that's not what they're for. Well, and there's a lot of people who feel a calling towards certain totally, totally. But if you, you know, it's just you can't rely on the information and you definitely can't rely. You can't allow info wars to fucking control the narrative.
Starting point is 01:56:15 There's some of that. So you got to have to be have an independent press. And one of the things that I think one of the things I think is really interesting is Savannah goes on to talk about this a bit. And she never names Robert, but it's very clear that's him. I mean, yeah, well, the brink broken finger, the broken hand and the video that she was there, like it's all bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:36 So she's clearly only talking about him and then gets into how there's fake press. Yep. And she goes on to talk about like how this fake press sets things up and then records it and then presents it as if it's something that's happening devoid of the context of them staging the stuff, of course, which isn't saying that Robert's faking all this stuff, but it certainly implies that. So yeah, anyway, that's interesting. In this next clip, Savannah gets real dumb.
Starting point is 01:57:09 It's real dumb. She's really bad at this job. Donald Trump basically is allowing this to happen in these cities because he's forcing people to say, OK, we need police. We need your help. We need law and order. The only thing that's going to change is the perfect choice. Savannah, like I said, not good at this.
Starting point is 01:57:25 No, if you follow what she's saying and then Greg Reese and Alex are agreeing with, she's describing what Alex has said is the globalists plan for the last 20 years. It's called the Hegelian dialect or the problem reaction solution. For Alex's entire career, he said that the globalists either create or allow a problem to happen, which will elicit a reaction from the public. Then magically, the globalists will be ready with their solution, which was their plan all along. One example of this thinking in Alex's conspiracies would be the whole
Starting point is 01:57:54 coronavirus outbreak. He believes that the globalists created this virus and or hyped it up, which is the problem. This problem would lead the public to having the reaction of begging the government to find a cure. And they would create a vaccine, which would it actually secretly be a weapon and or microchip, which is the solution. Yes.
Starting point is 01:58:13 From the jump, they wanted to vaccinate everyone. And in order to get people to accept this, they created a problem, which would elicit the reaction that allowed their solution. This is exactly the pattern that Savannah is describing with Trump. If you take what she's saying, the problem is Trump allowing these protests to get out of control, which will lead to the reaction of the citizens begging Trump to come in and put down the protest and establish law and order, right? And Trump's solution will be an unconstitutional crackdown and deeper
Starting point is 01:58:40 slide into authoritarianism. Yeah, these people are fucking stupid, even within their own stupid world. Anyone who listens to the show with any critical thinking capacity would hear Savannah describe that situation and immediately say, hold on, if Trump is intentionally allowing these protests to escalate in order to create a situation that he can use, that probably means that he's wanting to do something he couldn't get away with. If the protests weren't out of control, sure, any half decent conspiracy
Starting point is 01:59:06 theories should have a ton of alarm bells ringing immediately. You would think it's probably not a problem, though, since I have to assume that Alex's stupid shows already weeded out the listeners capable of abstract thought. But goddamn, Savannah. Well, I mean, it's when you own, when you don't have any creativity whatsoever, your enemies can only be doing your ideas and since your ideas are uncreative, you're just by telling me what your enemies are doing. You're just saying what you what you are only capable of imagining.
Starting point is 01:59:35 She's not like you're not supposed to define your enemies the same way as your hero. You know, like problem reaction solution, Hegelian dialectic is explicitly bad. Yes, that's something the globalists do. Yeah, it's not what your heroes. It's manipulative. Yes, and destructive. Yes, and it is. Well, I mean, what can we say purposefully killing off your citizens? It's not something that's like mom tricked me into eating my vegetables. That's not the Hegelian dialect. If Trump is doing this, then you are just telling me that Trump is murdering people. No. So we get to Savannah saying
Starting point is 02:00:20 something else. It's like really weird. This is a very important election, probably the most important election in our history. The American people have gotten comfortable because Donald Trump has been in office, but they need to realize that they are the last line of defense. Basically, we need to keep president Donald Trump in office and we need to fight for our country. I would love to ask Savannah, who exactly she's talking about who's gotten comfortable. People feel comfortable right now. I would say that billionaires maybe, but I don't know if I can think of anyone else, regardless of their
Starting point is 02:00:51 politics, who seems legitimately happier than they were four years ago, including Alex. No one is happier. Isn't the entire premise of Alex's show supposed to be that the public is suffering because of the globalists running a fake virus outbreak that's tanking the economy and starving everyone and simultaneously Soros funded militants are attacking multiple cities around the country and I've hit teams ready to take out all the conservatives. Who's comfortable? Oh, it sure is shit, not the left. I've gotten comfortable. It doesn't seem like the right wing ding dongs are all
Starting point is 02:01:18 that doing all that good either. No, it's almost like it's a really bad for everyone and yet they just can't admit it such bullshit. Yeah. Anyway, God damn it. Yeah, so comfortable. You remember how I can't think of how these have been the most comfortable years for everyone, right? Damn America's just been so fucking comfortable. That's why we're having the most important election in our lifetime because we're so comfortable. Yep. So Alex goes to calls while Savannah and Greg Reese are still there and this caller is I would say interesting. It's it starts off promising.
Starting point is 02:01:56 Okay. Yeah, Alex. Good day to you guys. Hey, I just want a message to get out the Trump. First of all, to I think one of the major things he needs to do is go open Fort Knox. Show us the gold. Show America their gold. I'm listening. Hell yeah, man listening. I'm listening. That guy's like me going up to great 2009. There it is. We're not doing this one anymore. Show me Fort Knox. I'm fine with that. I don't have a gold sponsor and I don't care. I just don't care, man. Show us the gold. Now that's a protest that I if the right wing was just walking around show us the gold as long as it didn't get violent. I think
Starting point is 02:02:36 there could be some fun to be had. Show us the gold. Show it March on Knox. Yeah, we could have Cuba Gooding Jr run it and yell show us the gold. The gold Jerry McGuire style. You had me at hell gold. So Alex gets another caller who apparently recorded a video the night before that had gotten really popular. Alex is super excited. This is this is this is interesting. Yeah, Alex. Thank you for taking my call. I actually was on scene in Kenosha shortly after Jacob Blake was shot and I took the whoa. Whoa. We're not talking about that or getting hit in the head with a brick. Stop there. Hey guys, keep the video
Starting point is 02:03:15 the officer being hit in the head by the brick. Thank you for getting in. Thank you for holding. Tell us what you saw in Kenosha. There's no other conversation of the Blake shooting. That's a mention that Alex just glosses over because he wants to talk about this guy's video of a cop getting it with a break. So that's cool. Show us how in God's name can you possibly hear those two things back to back and be like, well, definitely show me the clip of the he's unconcerned. I would honestly be surprised if he didn't even register what the guys don't even know what you're talking about. Yeah, the whole
Starting point is 02:03:49 Blake thing. Who's Blake? So Savannah. She's complaining about protesters being bailed out and stuff. Right. And then Alex starts whining. There was the ACLU legal observers there. All the ACLU does is support the destruction of freedom. They work for Soros. They got bought up on ACLU as a criminal organization. I watched them walk with Antifa and watch them and see who got arrested so they could help bail them out. There's also the National Lawyer Guild, who is writing numbers. Yeah, they were writing their number on Antifa members arms so they could call them if they got arrested and
Starting point is 02:04:25 immediately get let out. And that's what's happened because the power structure is behind them. Yeah. And this complete what's them. And so they you could sense that they feel victory. They feel like they're running that place and they're winning the revolution. Okay. All right. I don't. Okay. Okay. I don't know what to say. All right. Okay. So so so these people who are one legal observers, communists are watching protesters be forcefully grabbed cuffed, taken to a holding cell held there for, you know, hours upon hours and then bailed out. And they are saying that is because the power
Starting point is 02:05:11 structure is behind them. Totally. Okay. Well, now I understand it. Yeah. So Alex goes out to break and this is one of the more damning clips or one of the more like troubling clips. I think from this episode. And it's where we end the 24th. They think they're weird because all the money and all the power and all the chai comes and all the Hollywood and all the blue states and all the blue city and all of it because they're the rebels. Everyone's all the powers. No, you're not the rebels when King George III is on your side. You're not. We're the rebels and we're going to win. But the king don't want to
Starting point is 02:05:44 establish on our side a bunch of child molester devil worshiping filth. Preston, you're amazing. Give your info to the producer, please. Only you want as a guest. We'll be right back. Nothing. Finally, the police stand out. We can move against you. That is really fucked up at the end. Finally, the police stand down so we can move against you. That seems to be an expression of, please not doing anything. Now we get to kill you protesters who think you're the rebels. No, we're the rebels. You're on
Starting point is 02:06:18 the side of King George, which is my imaginary shadow government. Jesus. Yeah. So that was really Jesus. That was bad. And so we jump to the 25th and Alex starts the show off in a bit of a mood of existential danger. We are in a fight for our lives. So wake up out of your trances. Come on. Wake up and wake others up. Snap out of it. The Democratic Party is openly calling for the end of the nation. They're absolute trash. Are you gonna let them win? We have right on our side. We have the truth. We have history. All we have to do is rally the people now.
Starting point is 02:06:57 So there is like an intense feeling of like you got to act. Yeah, you got to do something. Yeah. So one of the things I noticed here on this episode on the 25th is that Alex is continuing to play Trump ads promotionally. Here's Trump's latest campaign ad America first Trump campaign ad. It's like high noon to vampires. Here it is. So I noticed that this was continuing. And I kind of think he might be breaking federal election law, whether or not he's being paid to play these ads. Yeah, this is a gift in kind for sure. No, I don't even think it's that that's a problem. According to the FEC rules, he might be in trouble
Starting point is 02:07:36 because of disclaimers. There's no disclaimer at the end of the ad that Alex plays that clearly says who paid for the ad, which is a requirement for political advertisements. If it's a paid ad by the candidate or their political action committee, that needs to be disclaimed. And if it's not, then there needs to be a disclaimer that indicates who's responsible for that advertisement airing. Like if there's another political action committee that produced the ad or something like that, the FEC guidelines are pretty clear that the exemptions for political ads are pretty limited. The only cases that
Starting point is 02:08:06 disclaimers aren't necessary are instances where they wouldn't be feasible, like in the case of promotional pens or skywriting. I bet the ad does have a disclaimer in the visuals of the video. Yeah, but Alex doesn't realize that he's doing a radio show and that you can't hear visuals on the radio. I'm not sure how big a deal this is or if Alex has anything to worry about, even if anyone took this seriously, but it's a pretty strong indication that he doesn't care about rules. No, at all. No, because there needs to be a disclaimer at the end of that. There needs to be a lot of stuff. Yeah. So in this next clip,
Starting point is 02:08:38 we get a bit of a disclaimer, not about that ad, but, you know, Alex, he does this from time to time. And I think it's his way. It's sort of like I'm going to kill you politically. Right. That kind of thing. Yeah. And I just hope if it really kicks off like I warned you, don't go down and fight Antifa. That's a decoy. Remember who did it. If you're in a war, you don't go after the privates. You go after the leadership of the New World Order. I would definitely be dishonest if I were to do this episode and not point out that Alex does occasionally say things like that during this time period is the only instance
Starting point is 02:09:15 of it. But from time to time, he will tell his listeners not to go after Antifa if she gets hot and that they should focus on high priority targets. I don't find this compelling or exculpatory, though, because he also says that his audience should make kill lists of protesters and says that the government is right to kidnap people in Portland because they're enemy combatants. It's disjointed in self-contradictory messaging. And these occasional comments about going after the big guys instead of Antifa, they ring hollow to me when compared to the massive time he spends yelling about his violent fantasies
Starting point is 02:09:46 regarding what he wants to do to left-wing protesters. His metaphor also doesn't make any sense. In war, you absolutely go after privates. No, you haven't. You have seen giant battles. They're always fought between the. Uh-huh. There are stats on this that are pretty easy to find. Yeah, generals are always, nobody lives low, less time than generals, right? That's the way it goes. The Congressional Research Service released numbers about military casualties and up to July 2020, there have been 2,349 active service persons killed in the embarrassingly named Operation Enduring
Starting point is 02:10:20 Freedom. Of these, approximately 10% were officers. Approximately 50% were rank E1 through E4. And in the army, those ranks are private, private two, private first class, and specialists. So three out of the four are private ranks. This makes sense because typically in a war, private is the only person you're ever going to be able to fight. I understand that Alex says these warped commando fantasies where he's sneaking into Soros's secret underground compound and taking him out with piano wire, but that's a childish cartoon way to imagine hostilities actually looking. And now you understand the far right. We're all
Starting point is 02:10:55 John Wick, right? Alex is not going to inspire competent spies to infiltrate the globalist homes and perform targeted assassinations. No, everybody knows competent spies listens to info war. The only effect he could really have in the real world is people hurting regular people like themselves because they are privates and the only people for them to fight realistically are other privates. The idiot who thinks Alex is smart, that guy does not have access to metaphorical generals and pretending that they do is nonsense. And it only leads to higher likelihood of metaphorical privates being targeted. So I
Starting point is 02:11:29 just find I find even these caveats to be they are not caviar caveats. No, no, no, no. Yeah, oh boy. So now on the 25th, for some reason, Alex is fine. Bringing up Jacob Blake. And he wants to talk some shit. You have the individual that started all the latest rioting in Wisconsin. And when I read about this guy the other day, even worse come out. He didn't die. Jacob Blake, his neighbors called him on him. He's got a sex assault charges, underage sex charges, all these drug charges. I mean, a rap sheet, 80 feet long. I guess Alex has finally decided to talk about this. And it's interesting that he's just spouting
Starting point is 02:12:13 bullshit. I said earlier that I don't care to discuss the relative goodness or badness of people's actions because that is no bearing on whether or not the police should have shot them. Any attempt to play that game is a transparent attempt to justify the police shooting someone, which is what Alex is doing. The only thing I want to point out is that Alex is lying about Blake's criminal record. According to fact check, he was charged with sexual assault against an adult in July, but has not been convicted. According to their research, quote, other cases in Wisconsin's court records include a
Starting point is 02:12:41 traffic violation and custody disputes. The thing about sexually assaulting a minor is something that Alex saw on a widely circulated Facebook meme. What someone did was create an image that combined the charge that Blake had opened, which was third degree sexual assault, and combined that with the definition of third degree sexual assault in Rhode Island. In Wisconsin, that's not specifically a crime that's committed against an underage person, but in Rhode Island, it is. This was an intentionally misleading meme that was created in order to make this dude's shooting more acceptable. And Alex is
Starting point is 02:13:12 unquestioningly repeating it because he saw this information in a meme. He does no work. Interestingly, if you can say that someone having a traffic violation and custody disputes is a rap sheet 80 feet long, then I guess Alex has a rap sheet 80 feet long because that dude has a court date coming up for that DUI and a pretty unpleasant custody dispute in his past. Yeah, it's it's hard to think that Alex wouldn't justify his own police murder. Well, I mean, you know, it's like fine. Do it. He's been okay. He's been sued by the Southern District of New York. It's a fine. He's been a
Starting point is 02:13:48 terrorist or whatever. He's been seasoned. Yeah, yeah, he's been sued by family. The Sandy Hook families, the cops, according to Alex's own logic, could shoot him at any time and he'd be fine. He got into a fight with a guy named Space Hitler. Exactly. He'd kill him. I just don't do it. I think it's a really interesting thought experiment to imagine Alex reporting on that on his own police murder. Yeah, he would not. He would not be a fan. I think you may be right. Well, I mean, it depends on whether he was metaphorically. He's white. Oh, so I guess he would be against that. Yeah, God, I hate everybody. So
Starting point is 02:14:24 in this next clip, we get the only real instance where Alex brings up the militia in Kenosha and it's kind of seems to me like he hadn't read the article that's up on it for us. Yeah, he just sees the headline. There's no analysis. Meanwhile, our militia tries to stop looters and rioters in Kenosha. We have that video on info wars.com. I've been warring articles very, very important. It's about it. That's it. It's weird. But Alex has other things he wants to spend it. He wants to spend his time on man. He wants to hang out with his new friends. This is where I for one second I have to like stop myself real
Starting point is 02:15:02 quick to avoid becoming the conspiracy theory of my own, you know, where it's like, isn't it suspicious that that's all he said about it? Like that kind of feeling of like it's it's conspicuous in its absence is that took a second to get over. But there was that part of me that's like so much confusion is going on. It's weird. So much is going on. You can kind of convince weird, but it's such a consistent behavior to be completely oblivious. Why would he know? Yeah, he's not going to read his own articles. Why would he read a repost? Yeah, of course he does. And like I said, he doesn't give a shit because he wants to
Starting point is 02:15:39 hang out with his new friends. Of course, he's clearly got a new class of people, grifters who are entering his circle. One of them is Deanna Lorraine. She actually does later say that she's going to be working for in force. Get the fuck out. So congratulations on that. Oh, yeah. Oh, we got we got a new rainbow snatch in out with the shadow gate in with the bad news. When you find out how into QAnon, Deanna Lorraine is. Oh no. God damn tired. Another Q weird. She's going to turn out to not like Q for a little while. I was going to deny hiring her later. I know I was going to say we're going to we're going to get into a real independent contractor
Starting point is 02:16:17 situation pretty soon. And then the other person who I get the sense is probably either going to get hired or Alex wants to hire is Ali Alexander, who we saw come up on a recent episode and he's back and man, this dude sucks. I've never seen I'm just really trying to think about it, you know, 20 years on the internet since I was 14. And I don't think I've ever seen such a justified shooting in my entire career or in my entire time on the internet. And so so a bad guy who did a bad thing and the cops did the last thing they ever wanted to do. And you and I both know, you know, you got to empty the mag and and they they didn't, you know, seven bullets sounds like
Starting point is 02:17:00 a lot. What? So he's talking about Jacob Blake shooting and they didn't shoot him enough times. You got to empty the man. You know what, Ali? I was thinking who I wanted to be hired for info wars is somebody with the same vocal patterns as Owen Troyer, but somehow an annoying, a more annoying voice. He's very condescending and also like a real religious zealot. We'll get into some more of that down the road, but you the last thing they wanted to do. The problem is that it's not the last thing that they want to do. There are a lot of other things that they want to do. Also, I take issue with the most justified shooting of my my ever see fuck up. Yeah. So it was justified. Alex discusses a little piece of
Starting point is 02:17:44 video that he saw where someone was putting out a fire in, I believe a dumpster with a fire extinguisher and or maybe spraying some of the fire extinguisher. There's a couple of clips that he plays. Anyway, Alex says he should have used a shotgun. Of course video Kenosha man punched by Ryder for trying to protect his business from being looted. They're trying to set it on fire. He has a fire extinguisher. He shoots it at him so they stop breaking the windows out and they beat him. Hey, dude, you should have been there with a riot shotgun. Okay. I mean, seriously, that's how you defend your businesses is with a shotgun. So it's sort of thematic. It never occurs to them that there are other ways to handle conflicts.
Starting point is 02:18:26 Oh, it never occurs to them. Oh, like it's just gone. Mm hmm. Gone. Well, there's one other way actually that alley brings up here. That's not good. And here's the problem, Alex. This is what keeps me up at night is these people exist. And I just keep thinking an election's not going to change that 1000 arrest is not going to change that these people still exist. And you know, if we don't hunt and find all of them, and we don't put them in prison, and these people will continue to exist, they will continue to be menaces to society. So apparently there's a roundup. Wow. Kind of sounds a lot like what Alex said. The globalists were going to do back in 2009. How many people voted in last in 2016? Look, man, I mean, God,
Starting point is 02:19:17 so that's 50 million at least that we're rounding up putting in prison forever. But it isn't it interesting how we like you just have almost the the sort of the bizarro world appearance. It is here because you have Alex building his entire career yelling about how the globalists wanted to round up all the gun owners and Christians and patriots and he's allowing a guest to say like all these left wing people my problem is they exist. We need to round them all up so they can't be a menace to society. Yep. It's like, okay, do you not recognize that like back then it was pretty clear you you were going to become this? Yeah. Yeah. What a dick. No, they don't recognize and they don't care and it never worried
Starting point is 02:20:00 them in the first place. So the problem though is the Democrats, right? I'm really certain to feel like it's not. They're one of the problems. Problem is they're working with the devil. That's what you don't realize. I don't I didn't realize that the Marxist the progressive left Antifa Democrats and Satanists are all working together and media is providing them with sexy propaganda tools, you know, and I'll tell you who's who told them to do it. Remember, Maxine Waters said go to their houses go to the gas station when they're at the mall you get in their face. Unbelievable. We'll be right back with Ali Alexander. So that comment from Maxine Waters that Alex is talking about was from June 2018. If Alex is trying to take a comment that she made
Starting point is 02:20:44 over two years ago and say that these protests are the result of her words, how tenuous of a connection does he require to prove causality zero? That's a frighteningly thin case. He's making it honestly. I don't think that the further left types are really that bold and to representative waters. I very rarely hear my left wing friends talk about how great she is, but I do hear people like Alex and the assorted right wing dum-dums I see online complaining about her all the time. It is weird. Yeah. Strange. It is strange. You know, it's almost like they're creating their own thing, not not responding to to like ours. So along the way, Alex is really insistent basically that Trump is going to win the election. The election is go. He's going to win with 80%
Starting point is 02:21:29 of the vote. Test the election. Trump's going to win it. They're going to try to steal it. They're going to try to secede. It's going to be crazy with what's happening with the COVID lockdown globally and the economy. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. You need high-quality swarble food. We have the best company you're going to find quality food for the lowest price. Got him. So Jesus, Alex wants to talk to Ali Alexander a lot about Q because Alex has some really conflicted feelings about questions about Q and this Mike down for this because it ends poorly. But Ali starts talking. He makes a metaphor that really confuses. Okay. And so it's kind of like a black church. Someone shows up 10 minutes late and then sits at the front of the front pew.
Starting point is 02:22:12 And that's how I look at the Q movement. A lot of people who love these causes and love this country and want to investigate things, but they don't want to do the due diligence and they don't want to do the research of the work of the people who have come before. All right. Guys, I lost Ali's audio. This intro again. All right. Can a concrete talk to me real quick? Okay. All right. Massive legal operation. I know the Biden campaign is working on that.
Starting point is 02:22:59 Oh boy. Wow. That is abrupt. That is that is a whirlwind of a clip right there. Yeah, that I got I got stuck on. I don't understand that analogy. No, whatsoever. No, I know it's racist somehow. Well, it's I guess it's I guess it's like that that like it sounds like it is. There's something racist there. I think it's it. I think it's like a the stereotype that he's saying that all black people are late all the time. Right? Isn't that what he's saying? But it's no. I don't think so. You don't think so. What's wrong with him? Well, I thought it was take that was along the lines of like black churches are well intentioned people who don't want to do the due diligence and research of the people who came before them because that's
Starting point is 02:23:42 how we describe the queue stuff. But he just said that they sat in front of the pew after 10 minutes coming late to the queue or you're coming late to the black church so you don't understand what's going on. He came to the queue movement late so he doesn't understand all that's going on with the intricacies of it. That's hard. It's open with songs, man. 10 minutes. You're still you're still primed for the good stuff. Jordan, I couldn't understand the metaphor. I don't understand it whatsoever. I have no idea. He's never been to a black church. That's for fucking sure. More importantly, perhaps like Alex. I've not heard him just storm out like that. He didn't even say go to a special report to the crew. Yeah. Mom's mad. Yeah. Jesus. So Alex everybody is in
Starting point is 02:24:26 timeout. Alex plays a special report. He comes back and thank God they do get Ali back because thank God for that day because he needs to explain that metaphor. Okay. And thankfully he does okay. I made a joke 10 minutes ago on the show and I said, you know, it's kind of like the black church. You show up 10 minutes late and you sit in the front pew. And I think that that's what we have a little bit in the queue community and what people like you and I have said people who have built our careers in this survived, you know, vicious media taxes is like, hey, if you have something good, you're still going to have these infiltrators. And what we saw actually a month ago is one of the very, very popular cue people. His name is educating liberals. I don't want to
Starting point is 02:25:04 throw him under the bus, but his name is Dylan Wheeler was a very, very big cue person. And now he's not only turned on cue, he's turned on Trump. He says that Trump is a Freemason and a satanic pedophile. And so close enough like you and I have warned that, Hey, if you investigate some of these issues, you are going to get a little paranoid. If you're not working with other people who have verifiable information or sources that you can vet, you're going to end up in the wrong place and stay there. We're going to come back. So that whole thing about the big cue non-account deciding cue sucks and the Trump is a demon to probably be a wake up call that this is a community that elevated this person for no reason other than that he was saying the things they wanted to hear.
Starting point is 02:25:46 This isn't just some person who turns out they're an infiltrator or something. It's an indictment of the entire community. Oh, no, it's because they did such good betting. No, it's not based on any kind of research or truth. It's just people on the internet reassuring each other of their shared delusions and violent retribution fantasies. Yeah. Also, clearly, like I initially misunderstood that black church comment. I don't think you did because that didn't make any more sense. No, it doesn't. But my initial assessment wasn't right. Clearly. I think he's trying to say that black churchgoers are the ones who did the work and the research. So they're there.
Starting point is 02:26:21 And they're, you know, like they're the old school conspiracy theorists to know about the Bilderberg group and all that and whatever. So then there are people who are getting into Q are the people who show up late and sit in the front row and don't understand out really in the or something. I'm not entirely sure. It's a weird metaphor that doesn't really track. Why? I think it's not as bad as I like initially thought. I guess not. It might not be. Here's you know what? Here's what I think. I think we got stuck to too far in the weeds on this one. Well, I like here's the problem. Here's the problem. Yeah, this guy's just never been to a black church. It could be. So that's all. That's my problem before we even get into the meaning
Starting point is 02:27:00 of the most in a few movies. He has never been to a black church. Yeah. So this episode now descends into a very boring gripe session between these two about how Q has been wrong about stuff and the followers can't admit that Q is wrong about anything. I hate them. No, no, no, no. It's mind numbingly idiotic. Do not do that. I don't care about it at all. Do not do that to me. It's painfully transparent as an attempt on Alex's part to try and attract some Q people to his revenue stream. So yeah, I don't care. Anyway, Alex has got another guest. All right. Chad Prather is our guest on YouTube. Chad Prather, P-R-A-T-H-E-R and on Twitter. Watch Chad. He's got a successful popper show, the Blaze TV and more. He's a successful national
Starting point is 02:27:44 comedian and of course country and Western. They got both types. Great musician will play one of his music videos with the lockdown. What a multi-talented guy. Country musician, comedian, talk show host on Glenn Beck's channel. Weird. Anyway, here's a joke. They're comparing Texas now saying we need to be more like South Dakota. They don't have South Dakota toast. They don't put South Dakota flags on a bikini. We don't make waffle irons in the shape of South Dakota. We do that for Texas. We are Texas by God. Side note, Chad Prather is running a doomed campaign for Texas governor based seemingly entirely on his opposition to wearing masks and his anger at Governor Abbott for taking COVID-19 seriously. Also, second side note, South Dakota is basically a rectangle. So
Starting point is 02:28:32 if you wanted to make a rectangle waffle and say that it's South Dakota, you could do that. Also, maybe these other states don't make all this dumb shit shaped like their state because they're not painfully insecure and in need of constant reassurance that they're the best. Also, the Texas waffle maker isn't made in America. Whoa. Also, I've seen that joke kill too many times. Oh, yeah. That hurt me to listen to you because that gave me flashbacks of sitting after hosting a set, watching the feature murder on a line like that. Just wondering what am I doing with what am I doing? So Chad is talking and he is a guy who I mean obviously is a comedian. So I don't know exactly how much of his commentary to take literally like some of it might be him fucking
Starting point is 02:29:23 around you know until you're funny. Everything's literal. That's the way I'm going to take funny. Funny can be pretty subjective. Like there's a lot of things that I don't think are funny, but I can still look at and be like I get that this is an attempt to be funny and maybe someone with a different sense of humor would laugh at this possibly and that's kind of tough to track sometimes. I don't know. Not with Prather. So anyway, Chad, he seems to be pretty focused on the idea that Peter Strock, the FBI agent wasn't bullied enough when he was younger. There we go. And this leads to an enlistment of people to take the fight to the enemy. Sure. That right there. That's the effect of an anti-bullying campaign right there. That's when you're afraid to stand up for yourself.
Starting point is 02:30:04 That's when you're afraid to punch somebody in the mouth. This punk kid right here, he wouldn't have survived on my playground. I can tell you that right now. And people can call me a bully all they want to call. They can say whatever, but no, we stood up to guys like this because as you said earlier, these are the true bullies and we're not going to sit there and bow down to them anymore. That's done. That's over and done with. We're not doing it. I encourage every American, every true patriot out there that can hear my voice right now. I'm giving you permission to stand up for yourself and take the debate to them. Win it. You're right. I don't know if it's a debate when you're talking about bullying and shit like that. I will tell you this right now, Dan, in no culture
Starting point is 02:30:42 throughout history have the funniest people been the bullies. They have not been the comedians that everybody aspired to. It's a tough combination. So this is the last clip here from the 25th and Alex gets into this weird headspace where he's like, yeah, remember when that video went around to me at that chicken place when I was young people? Yeah, I was the victim in that. Sure, of course. Of course. And then he makes a startling confession just completely casually. Sure. They edited the tape and said that I attacked them. The Austin, American States from the went there, talked to the waiters because I said the second time he threatened me, I said, I want them thrown out of here. I'm gonna beat their ass. They're threatening me. They caught them the third time
Starting point is 02:31:25 doing it, told them stop. So the statesman had to admit down in the article that they confirmed that that guy right there was coming. Look at that look on it. It looks like straw. I mean, I'm not trying to say I'm a typical guy around, but I have beat people to death a couple of times. I mean, this guy has no idea what he was up against. And he's an idiot. Wow. I don't know if my reaction to that would be laughing. That's not even technically probably anymore. He just outright admitted to beating a man to death. Couple of them. Yeah, Alex is a murderer. Yep. He's a murderer. Point of order. The Austin Statesman article that he's talking about did not say that Alex's version of the story is accurate. Apparently they should have said that Alex was a murderer.
Starting point is 02:32:03 Yeah, apparently every time you have a article about him self to murder. Yeah, exactly. Why are you even bothering with info wars? Let's go with two time murderer mass murder. Serial killer Alex Jones. So the Austin American Statesman article says that an employee confirmed that some people made fun of Alex. Alex claims that these people were making violent threats against him and his wife, but the article doesn't confirm. No, Alex is lying. Some people said that Alex, you know it's almost like this is what happens when bullies. Oh, all right. Aren't bullied enough when they're growing up. You know what I'm saying? I'm sick of these anti bullying campaigns to keep bullies from being bullied because now he doesn't even know how to be bullied. Right
Starting point is 02:32:49 give me five minutes on that. I get you spot at the I want to be on the blaze. All right probably good probably. So now we get to the twenty six and the previous night was when this seventeen year old shooter killed two people and wounded another seriously and I was pretty surprised that this is how Alex opens the show and again. I am your host Alex Jones Jones. Well, in a few minutes, we'll play you the clip. Hillary Clinton has come out openly in a Politico interview yesterday and the videos linked up on news wars dot com info wars dot com and said Biden should not concede under any circumstances. That's a quote. This wasn't a Politico interview. Hillary made these comments in a showtime program called the circus. Alex
Starting point is 02:33:39 likely saw a headline about this in Politico and decided that's where the interview is from because he doesn't do any work. Hillary said that Biden should not concede under any circumstances, but she wasn't saying anything sinister. There's a recognition that because of the way this election is clearly going to be a mess. Biden needs to be prepared for this not to be decided on election night. Be ready for the possible legal challenges that could arise like back in 2000 to be prepared. Is there like there must be a Clinton signal, you know, as a Google alert like, you know, it's like, oh, shit, some really this news. I don't want to deal with somebody hit the Clinton signal. Guess what? Hillary Clinton. She we can talk about her forever. Sure. What is something
Starting point is 02:34:19 else going on today? You that's not important. And that's local news. Nobody needs to know about that. Hillary Clinton is a national figure. Well, another thing that Alex talks about when times are tough is internal secret polls. Oh, of course, apparently, Trump numbers going up. Oh, and the way things are going, Trump's numbers internally are going up and up and up. Democrat numbers are going down and down and down. They're gamble to demoralize and collapse the country is failing. That does not mean with 68 long days. It's a long time in a short time. It's rushing towards us that they aren't going to try to implode the dollar. They're doing that around the clock, start new wars, have China start a war, release a new more deadly virus to shut things down. We
Starting point is 02:34:58 were only primed for submission with the last eight months of lockdown. I sincerely don't think Alex is aware of the fact there was a shooting the night before in Kenosha at the beginning of his show. He's opening the program rambling about secret internal Trump polling numbers that show how popular he is and how he's got the Electoral College wrapped up and how the Dems have all these evil plans like more diseases to throw things off in the early morning hours. Three people were shot and two died in Kenosha. The shooter was a 17 year old in town from Illinois. You felt like he was part of a militia and that there was some kind of a duty. He had to come to a place he didn't live and protect businesses. He had no connection to in the process. He killed
Starting point is 02:35:38 two people and wounded a third and wasn't even arrested by the police when he tried to surrender to them. He left town was only arrested back in Illinois the next day. It's really, really suspicious that Alex isn't talking about this right away because it should be his top story. And yet there isn't a hint of it. It's very weird. But Alex has other things on his mind. Namely that Bandai video links may not work on social media. I want to light a fire. It's our live coverage weeknights seven to nine. They don't want that getting out. So the way you do it is with this new URL that is Bandai video. All the videos with their own new URL censored by jack.com. So I mean, this is the whack-a-mole game that will go on forever.
Starting point is 02:36:23 Basically, once there's enough awareness of the sites Alex is using to evade bands, he'll create another URL. And then eventually people are like, oh, that's just Alex's new site. And that'll get banned. And then he'll do it again. It'll just repeat over and over again. It's a little bit like antivirus software. It's like you're always going to be losing because they have the initiative. They're always creating a new thing and you're always reacting to it. There's a profit motivation to infecting people's computers. And there's a profit thing that Alex needs in being able for his links to be spread around despite him being kicked off social media to infect people's minds. Right. So now we get to 35 minutes into the show.
Starting point is 02:37:07 And this is when the first mention of the shooting comes up. And it's all just about self-defense. Now I'm going to get into the earth-shaking news and the incredible stuff unfolding in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and the response by the media, and the fact that a young man went there and was reportedly attacked repeatedly on tape. And then he shot and killed two people, reportedly. What had been killed is on tape. Attacking him, running him down with a weapon. The other man had a pistol in his hand. He blows the man's arm almost completely off. That individual lived. So imagine someone's chasing you down the street with a pistol. You turn around and shoot them. And the governor's calling for his
Starting point is 02:38:01 arrest. The police say they're getting ready to make a rest. So the running down the street and the shooting happened after the first guy was killed. So I exclude that from really any relevant conversation about self-defense or him being scared because someone was swinging a skateboard at him. So he had to kill the guy because the preceding incident of someone dying by his hand being shot by him seems more relevant. So honestly, to be perfectly honest, I have zero patience for the arguments like this that Alex and Tucker are trying to make. To me, this situation is one where you have to approach things with almost an elementary level of questioning. Some people got shot. So the first question is who shot them? It was a 17-year-old
Starting point is 02:38:48 dude who thought he was a militia member. The next question is why did this guy shoot these people? And the answer seems to be that he felt threatened and scared by them. So the question then begins to be why did he feel threatened by these people? And like I said, for the later shootings, it's obvious because people were chasing him down because he'd already killed a guy. So it's best just to focus on the initial incident. From everything we can tell, the answer is that the victim was chasing him and threw a bag at him. The next logical question from there is why was this person chasing him? And I don't know the answer to that question from the available information. So unfortunately, that's a dead end. That means you have to ask some branching questions. And the
Starting point is 02:39:29 first one is why was the shooter there? And that's a tough question to get a sensible answer to. He claims he was there to protect businesses, but he's not from Kenosha. He's from Antioch, Illinois. Antioch is in northern Illinois, and it's only like a 40-minute drive, but it's still crossing state lines. And from all the reporting I can find, there isn't any personal connection between the shooter and the businesses. So it appears that the answer to that question, why he was there, and he felt so strongly about protecting buildings that may or may not be damaged, and he has no relation to, that he crossed state lines with a gun to make sure that no property is damaged. It just seems weird. I would say that it sounds unbelievable,
Starting point is 02:40:04 but it's a 17-year-old. The next question you might think of is, how did he have a gun? In order to legally possess, purchase, or carry a gun in Illinois where the shooter is from, you have to have an FOID card or a firearm owner's identification card. In order to get one of these cards, a person has to be 21 or over or have the, quote, written consent of his or her parent or legal guardian to possess and acquire firearms. That tells us that it's hypothetically possible for him to have a gun. According to Politifact, he, quote, did not have a permit to begin with. So it appears that him just having a gun is illegal. He couldn't have, like, he couldn't have received a permit to carry a weapon in Wisconsin at 17, so that's not an option either. This is why, in addition to
Starting point is 02:40:47 first-degree murder, he's charged with possession of a dangerous weapon under the age of 18. If you trace out the causality chained of the first shooting, there are immediately at least two very serious reasons why the shooter should not have been in a position to be carrying out the shooting. He had no reason to be in Kenosha other than a bizarre, vague desire to defend buildings, and he had no legal right to be carrying an AR-15 at his age. For me, these two aspects of the story make arguments about self-defense feel a little bit hollow, and added to that, you know, we don't know what happened before the first video picks up, where the shooter is being chased by the first victim. I don't know if there was an inciting incident to that, like, who might have been an
Starting point is 02:41:26 instigator of whatever happened. So I don't know. I don't care about this. I mean, what I don't care about is the arguments that attempt to center the victims for the crime. And it's an uphill battle, if you're trying to make that argument. I don't see the evidence that would be required to justify that. I can't hear them say it. You know, it's like one of those things where I know they're saying it. They're saying it all over. It's in homes, it's in garages, and it's on fucking TV. It is not in garages. It's on TV. I get it. No one will say it to my face. Do you know what I mean? Like they're all saying it where they feel safe. Alex is saying this shit. Alex would not sit down across from me and say that shit to my face. He might. You know, he just wouldn't. They're cowards.
Starting point is 02:42:27 Well, they're fucking cowards and it's pathetic and it drives me insane. So on the 24th, Alex was spending a lot of narratives about how the police are being policed by the protesters and stuff, and the police were unable to do stuff. And this continues after the fact there's a shooting. And it's because those narratives existed to justify this preemptively. And now that it's happened, it's sort of the payoff to those arguments. The man, and we'll tell you about him in a moment, goes to the police with his hands up and is trying to get to them. They won't take him into custody because they're in their own vehicles. Their own armored vehicles not wanting to be shot. When the police stand down and you've got thousands
Starting point is 02:43:17 of people going through neighborhoods burning down houses and businesses, raping and robbing, you're going to have the vacuum filled with citizens and you're going to have street battles. So now they didn't arrest him because they were afraid. Anyway, okay, okay, all right, let's just do this one real quick. How many cops were there in full fucking body armor, carrying automatic weapons, and they're they're just being all they're just handcuffed by people wearing improvised protecting Soros's beer. This is this is pathetic. It is filled. The right wing is filled with nothing but cowardice and it's fucking disgusting. You can't tell me that it's all right. We're the strongest people alive. We're alpha males and then cry all the
Starting point is 02:44:10 time when they won't let us kill them when they were, but the cops need to be protect. Fuck you. Yeah. Fuck you. You know what's really interesting though, like as as mad as that might make you, it might make you even more mad to recognize that, you know, having been like, hey, this is self defense and all that shit kind of wants to talk more about how he has a new URL. Like, Alex seems more focused on banned by jack.com or whatever. Cool. And our tolerance of these thugs and these criminals has conjured the nightmare we're now facing. I'm going to go over it all in a moment. But first, imagine learning yesterday that any video from banned on video built their own platform, millions of views a day, you're sharing it. He's just spending a bunch of time
Starting point is 02:45:01 talking about how we got these new URLs that are able to penetrate social media. And I believe that that is a part of like Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Yeah, like talking about this shooting and stuff. That's important. But it's not eating. Yeah, I need food. Yeah. Yeah. So I got to sell my videos. Yeah. Yeah. Basically. Yeah. The need for like his his advertisements in the form of propaganda videos to be able to get on social media is existential. His need to justify this shooting is like, well, if we got time contrast that to somebody who's fucking a business was burnt down saying 20 or 30 more times, you know, different types of people different types of people one one's one's apparently the good guys in his mind. Well, Alex wants to focus almost entirely
Starting point is 02:45:54 on the plight of this shooter and what he is experiencing tragedy. Black lives matter threaten family of teen who killed rioters that attempted to murder him. That's right. They've been already shooting at him chasing him with guns. He killed two of them. One guy with a gun in his hand, you can see it right here that part of his arm blown off because he was physically pointing the gun at him leaning over him and the young man shot him with it looks like a 556 blowing off part of his upper forearm. So it's just all centering on like this guy is like a poor guy is getting mean messages. Yeah. Just no concern or care about the fact that a couple people are dead. If you want to entertain this bullshit, I will give you this. All right. The 17 year old did not
Starting point is 02:46:46 do this in a vacuum. This wasn't something that he just self generated this idea. Sure. Of course he is just as much a gun as the guns are. He was fired by all of these people. Yeah, that's what that's what's an argument there. So if you want to if you want to victimize him, you're still the bad guy. So Alex has an interesting relationship with the fact that the shooter did not get arrested and was allowed to leave. That is an interesting because that because conservatives are always under attack by the, you know, they're they're always being banned. The whole aristocracy is against them. The establishment is against them order. Well, they're being policed by the ACLU and communists see much like the need to
Starting point is 02:47:40 justify the public support of protesters in Portland by saying they're all attacking the country. When something like this happens and this white guy who shot a couple of people, the police are like, whatever. You kind of have to justify that too. And Alex's angle on it is like, well, that's proof that he shouldn't be arrested. Oh, great. That's pretty circular. But all right. And written house goes over and sits on the side of the street with his hands up and the police never arrested. But now the media says, oh, he's fleeing. We're going to get him to the police and virtue signal and probably bow and probably execute written house. Because the police are on the left now in most cities.
Starting point is 02:48:21 So yeah, they're going to virtue signal by arresting him for killing a couple of people, whatever. Oh my God. Anyway, Alex has some good news. What he thinks is good news. And it's really just racism, but whatever. Now he killed reportedly two white people. So it's not going to be as bad. My God, the whole country would burn whites would do it if they were black. Wow. Fuck you. I think the whole country should burn. I'm going to go regardless of race. Fuck you. Fuck you. So it won't be that bad is the sentence of fucking psychopath says that is that is fucking beyond. Yeah, that's crazy. Now. So Alex he gets into talking here a little bit about how a man people are always talking about how like,
Starting point is 02:49:10 you know, you're in Wisconsin. This this guy, Jacob Blake, you're black. You get shot. Uh-huh. People are way more likely to be shot if they're white. And I have bad news for you. When those police officers shot that guy in that confrontation that triggered this latest thing, they said, Oh, the police in Wisconsin have a long history of indiscriminately murdering black people. Just not true, folks. The statistics show it in Wisconsin. You're more than double likely statistically to be shot if you're white than black per capita. It's not because there's more whites. No per capita per thousand white people per thousand black people. You're more than twice as likely. It's BS. It's BS. This is completely made up and just fabricated from Alex's own warped
Starting point is 02:49:53 mind full of white fear and victimhood fantasies. You can find statistics about demographics and shooting deaths. And if you look at Wisconsin in 2018 for white people, 8.6 out of 100,000 are killed in a shooting. And for black people, that number is 25.5. Maybe Alex is just talking about police related shootings. Maybe the Associated Press reported that in 2019, there were 16 people killed in police shootings in Wisconsin. And 11 of them were white, three were black, and two were Hispanic. That sounds like a situation where white people were four times more likely to be shot by the police. But per capita, this is not adjusted for population. There we go. According to the 2018 census numbers, Wisconsin's population is 87% white, 6% black, and 8%, sorry, 7% Hispanic
Starting point is 02:50:41 or Latino. That means that although the population is 87% white, white people only comprise approximately 68% of the police shooting deaths in that year, which is disproportionate to population distribution. Similarly, the number for black police shooting victims does not match population. Black people make up 6% of the population, but approximately 18% of the police shooting deaths. The Hispanic population sees the same phenomenon where 7% of the population represents approximately 12% of the police shootings. Alex is making shit up that fits into his predetermined racist narrative. He has nothing to back up the bullshit he's throwing around. It's just a pathetic attempt to argue that you shouldn't have to care about police brutality directed to groups who aren't white.
Starting point is 02:51:22 Yeah. So very boring at this point and very racist. If I don't like the reality, I will just say it's not. So Alex takes some calls and most of them suck, but there's a guy who owns a gun store who sells guns. That's exciting. He wants to tell Alex that it's too late to buy guns. Like there aren't a lot of guns available on the retail market. And one of the points that he makes is actually really like a very responsible point. And that is that if you want to buy a gun, you have an obligation to train and to, you know, teach yourself how to use the gun, and that takes ammunition. And so if you want to buy masses of ammunition in order to train, you're going to have a really hard time finding that in a lot of markets.
Starting point is 02:52:09 Alex struggles with it. No, he's a weird response. Being prepared for that's the good stuff, the double-eyed buck. I mean, it's hardly coming in. Ammunition is going to be back until probably about, look at about February or March. A lot of preparedness for getting ammunition involved and being able to train and use it is kind of past right now. Well, we're all doomed then. Seriously, I mean, anybody can take a shotgun out in the backyard and in the country and shoot coffee cans at 20 yards and learn how to shoot in five minutes. I mean, it's pretty, that's why women are taught to be scared of guns. So Alex, I don't think has a respect for
Starting point is 02:52:45 teaching how to use guns responsibly. I think he probably minimizes that a little bit. But the thing that I think is really weird is that like Alex should be yelling about how there's no guns. Well, he doesn't have a permit. He doesn't have a concealed carry. Well, no, we only know that for sure in 2015. Oh, that's right. We don't know about. We don't know that for sure now. But yeah, I imagine he has no interest in. But part of his brand is making people fear about scarcity and like there's no food. Yeah. Supply chains are breaking down. Right. So why is it like, anybody can get a gun? It's fine. Yeah. He's trying to panic everybody about everything else. This makes no sense. That is that is weird. Yeah, I don't get it. I guess because he doesn't sell
Starting point is 02:53:29 guns. Maybe but he never has. He sold gun parts. Yeah, but in the same way, maybe he almost makes him feel good. Like see guns are flying off the shelves. I'm doing my job. No, because he would celebrate that back in like when Obama was president. Sure. Everyone's buying guns and that's a great sign that Liberty is on the rise. Right. Everyone's out of guns because we're buying so many. So now we're all going to die. Yeah, this doesn't match either of his his side. What is he doing? I don't know. But we're going to end this episode here, Jordan, with a couple of clips of Alex having another guest. Oh, no. And it's the same guest. Ali Alexander. You bet. This weirdo is back. I really think Alex is trying to hire him. Anyway, here's Ali saying that something
Starting point is 02:54:15 really stupid. You know, the Catholics believe that mass, you know, and we evangelicals just call it church, you know, on Sunday, the Sabbath is a sacrament and that it keeps a portal to hell closed. And, you know, the Catholics have a prophecy about the restrainer and the Satanist are everywhere burning churches all the world right now. And they get caught. They go, Oh, Satan told me to do it. Right. Yeah. Who are you people? Have you read a book? I've been to a number of churches across like all sorts of denominations. I've been to Jewish temples. I've been to Baha'i temples. I've been to mosques. I'm not sure I've ever heard anyone like, well, you know, we're here to keep that portal to hell closed. Hey, everybody, just so you know,
Starting point is 02:54:58 I look, I know this is a social gathering. We are doing the potluck later, but let's not forget the reason for the season to make sure that this portal the hell to stay stays closed now. I know that we're all, you know, we all have social lives. Of course. We're all busy, but someone's always got to be here to keep you got to keep that portal closed. So I'm going to need you to take my shift to keep in the portal closed. So are you telling me that this chain has been unbroken the entire? Nobody's had to take a smoke break and forgot and left the portal unlocked. Nobody is fucked up one time zero into nuclear weapons have had more fuck ups. It's very it's very weird. No. So this is the last clip in it's Ali complaining about how people called the devil
Starting point is 02:55:41 Lucifer they use those interchangeably. How dare they? This is just like this is where I was just like, you guys are fucking assholes. And so I mean, I don't want to get super religious or super spiritual, but the devil masquerades as an angel of light. Exactly. That's his old title, Alex, right? He was Lucifer. Right. And now he is Satan. And now he is the devil. He's no longer Lucifer. And we shouldn't use those terms interchangeable. That's right. The devil worshipers and Luciferians they still say he's right. Right. They still say he has that office. He doesn't not in that office anymore. Hey, hey, hey, don't call them Lucifer. He got fired. All right. Okay. All right. I'm fine with this show. I'm fine with it. Here's what they do. Here's how I allow info wars to continue
Starting point is 02:56:23 on in perpetuity. Uh huh. They are allowed to sit there and talk the same way that they normally are. However, they are both in dunk tanks. Okay. All right. So when they say something stupid like that, everybody gets together and they throw fucking, but it's got to be for charity. Yeah, for sure. And for every single one. Every single one goes to trans rights and bipoc causes and everything. It has to be a thing where Alex is mad both about the charitable stuff and being and being wet all the time. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I would say I I really resented that end of this episode because just it's it's there. Don't call them both elves. Okay. There's multiple races of elves. Come on now. It's a we got the dark elves. You
Starting point is 02:57:16 got the sardil fawn. It's a weird denial of like the circumstances of the world that they're operating within. So I mean, when we come to the end of this, like there are obviously things that have happened since this and they're like Alex is probably responding more since media matters put out an article about him and you know the things that are on his radar when people talk about his connection to things events that happen in the world. So I assume that there is a blow up in the future coming. Yeah. But if you look at just this section of time, it's really interesting to me because when I ask myself, do I think that there is a like an actual connection? I don't know. I don't think so. Like I don't think Alex is that interested in the events that are happening in
Starting point is 02:58:14 Kenosha outside of what he does all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't feel like he behaved in any way differently than he does all the time. Yeah. Now at the same time, his show on the 24th was intensely based on fear about these street things. Yes. And there are things that he's saying that can be taken to be interpreted as calls for people to get involved and do things 100 him saying now that the police have stood down, we can make our move on you muttering out to break. You know, there are a lot of things like that that are pretty fucked up. But do I think that those things are things that you could make a solid argument that maybe the shooter heard and was like, well, I better get to Kenosha. Yeah, I don't know. I think that case is
Starting point is 02:59:06 thin. Now that being said, I don't know. I said this in the beginning. I don't think that's really all that important. Yeah. I think his behavior is disgraceful. I think it's just a damn shame. And it fits the larger pattern that we discussed at the beginning of this episode, which is those behaviors that are more likely to create outcomes like that. Right. Right. Right. I just see that we have allowed and set by while the most profitable media enterprises in the world are stochastic terrorists. Like that's that's what we've got. So to me, to me, it's just like that's it's a matter of timing who you want to blame it on. You know, like like you were saying, it's unfortunate timing, unfortunate, you know, as it is for them to have reposted that
Starting point is 03:00:01 militia article. But if this happened two weeks from now, then maybe Tucker Carlson would have posted a similar article. It has nothing to do with who individually these people are absorbing their information from, because they're all getting it from stochastic terrorists. It appears that the picture of the ecosystem is far more important than a single plan. Yeah. Yeah. And that makes it really difficult because I mean like there was a time when you could be far more confident in tracing fingerprints of something that was like that's a malice totally totally and that's not really the case. There's so much that's like well there are a lot of fucking places this dick could have gotten these ideas from and it's fucking it could have gotten it directly
Starting point is 03:00:47 from the goddamn president. Yeah. If you want to deal with stochastic terrorists, believe it on Trump too. Sure. And I think some people have made that obviously because yeah and the thing that I think is is what I keep coming back to on this is that these articles and these people who are trying to make connections to Alex. I get it and I don't think they're wrong. I think it's incomplete and I think I think that the better conversation to have is one that is about the larger ecosystem if possible. Agreed. And then secondarily, when talking about Alex, don't just talk about like a in the days before the shooting at X, Y or Z. Yeah. There's a much fuller picture that is like he has an ammo that is operating in search of things like this.
Starting point is 03:01:34 Totally. Totally. And then when it does happen, he acts predictably by justifying it as self-defense and it's it's it's completely predictable and it's mirrored almost identically by people like said it was going to happen. Yeah. Because it and it did because yeah. Yep. So I don't know. I apologize, but I don't have any phone calls. I didn't have time to gather any before the show. I think we're in a real real time crunch. Yeah. Yeah. So we got a run, but we'll give you double the calls next time. Maybe. Okay. But until then, Jordan, we have a website. We do have a website. It's knowledgefight.com. Yep. We're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's that knowledge underscore fight and I go to bet Jordan. We're also on Facebook. We are on Facebook. If you'd like
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