Knowledge Fight - #480: September 9-10, 2020

Episode Date: September 11, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on what Alex Jones is up to in the present day. In this installment, the gents see what Alex thinks about the Bob Woodward news, football video game stats, and whether o...r not Joe Rogan is censoring him.

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Starting point is 00:00:49 Andy and Chansel, it's time to pray. Andy and Chansel, you're on the earth. Thanks for holding. Hello Alex, I'm a Christian color. I'm a huge fan and love your world. Knowledge fight. No, no, no, no, no, no, knowledgefight.com. I love you.
Starting point is 00:00:57 I love you. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. Hey everybody. I tried to talk through the bullhorn. Oh man. That bit almost fucking killed.
Starting point is 00:01:08 It almost worked. Damn it. You really almost had it. I bungled it. You fucking bailed. You could have survived it if you'd have just kept it going. Hey everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
Starting point is 00:01:17 I'm Dan. Yeah, I'm Jordan. A couple dudes. I'd sit around and drink a couple of beverages and talk a little bit. I just, yeah. It's tough. It's tougher than you think. It's hard to talk through a bit.
Starting point is 00:01:27 That's why. I think the problem is it's very small. Yeah. I don't quite know where to put your mouth. It's also hard to hear through the headphones. Yeah. All right. Bullhorn segment over.
Starting point is 00:01:38 This podcast we're like to sit around. We're going to do beverages and talk a little bit about Alex. Indeed it is, Dan. And how good he is at using a tiny bullhorn. He's better than you. We have just in real time proven his worth. He's got a talent for bullhorn. I hate that we said.
Starting point is 00:01:51 No one's ever said no. I hate that we set out to make fun of him. In the end, all we have done is demonstrate his value and what he brings to the marketplace. You know, it's, it is interesting. It's a niche. It is a niche. Quite. Not many people fill that niche of being master bullhorners.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Yeah. But you know, hey, everybody's got to go. Gotta give it up to Alex. He's got a skill. Yeah. Absolutely. Dan Jordan. A quick question.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Real loud that time. Yeah. Sorry about that. Okay. I was trying to talk through the bullhorn. What's your bright spot today? Well, Jordan, I mean, it's a lot of plant stuff in my life these days. Indeed.
Starting point is 00:02:31 I would say that my plant related bright spot, what plant watching. Yes. A segment here is that. So I've got a number of things going in various stages of like pretty, pretty good progress. Sure. Brock are not broccoli. The cucumbers. Cucumbers are killing it.
Starting point is 00:02:50 And the pepperonis are in particular looking gorgeous doing quite well. Indeed. But the thing that I'm really, really liking right now that I'm feeling just so great about is the fact that I finally got some quinoa to grow into viable little plants. I had killed at least three rounds of trying to grow seedlings of quinoa. But I'm still not 100% sure what I did wrong with those other times. But this time I've got three plants that are pretty well established up there. It's not always about you.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Maybe the quinoa just didn't want to be here. It could have been. It could have been. You know, you got to make everything about you all the time. It doesn't have to be about you. Well, I mean, sure, fine. Maybe maybe the seeds were predestined to not work out. No interest.
Starting point is 00:03:41 They had no interest. Yeah, but it's a big relief. Like I thought I was just sort of like destined to keep doing it over and over again. But what am I doing wrong? And then and then this this round, it's just it's it's nice. It feels like progress. Yeah, that's very nice. It's very nice.
Starting point is 00:03:55 How about you? I my bright spot was I had the opportunity to tell my partner about the St. Crispin's Day speech. Oh, she had never heard it before. She didn't know anything about it. So I was trying to get her inspired to go to work and make it through the day. So I start going into the St. Crispin's Day speech.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Right. And she's blown away. And I'm like, listen, the St. Crispin's Day speech is the only speech that will make you run through a fucking brick wall, even though you don't understand a word of what's being said. It's incredible. It is the original fucking clear eyes. Full hearts can't lose of fucking drama.
Starting point is 00:04:34 And I was playing. I played her the Sir Lawrence Olivier bit and she lost her mind. She was like, I don't even like this, but I want to run through a brick wall. That's how I feel about Dusty Rhodes. Hard time. There you go. Yeah. And that wouldn't exist if it weren't for the St.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Crispin's Day speech. I would say it's the other way around. Time travel. Randy Kramer. It also gave me a chance to talk about my favorite conspiracy theory. We've been, we've been asked before, like, are there any conspiracy theories you believe or what's your favorite conspiracy theory? And I've always left this one out because I forget about it.
Starting point is 00:05:06 But my favorite conspiracy theory is the Shakespeare as a woman conspiracy. Sure. He absolutely is not. It's a him. Everybody knows it's 100% true. It's him, but that's my favorite one to entertain. I'm like, how many people have to lie and what she is secretly a princess and she was writing like that and they couldn't put her name out.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Amazing. But what about the theory that Shakespeare was a bunch of different people? That one's also bullshit. Are you sure? Yeah. Shakespeare is actually Shakespeare. It wasn't Marlowe. No, it wasn't Christopher Marlowe.
Starting point is 00:05:36 It wasn't. It wasn't what's his dumb fuck. Francis Bacon. None of these guys. Was he a spy? Shakespeare was not a spy. Okay. What's he in love?
Starting point is 00:05:46 He was in love. Okay. That's true. Well, that is a fine conspiracy. He had a very difficult marriage though. Oh, yeah. Is that right? That is true.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Okay. A difficult dog. I thought that historical Shakespeare was a much more open question. But then again, I will grant I have never looked into it. Maybe one of the most studied individuals in the history of all of literature. And you think people would just let that be an open question. I thought that there's wasn't a lot of primary sourcing on it. Tons.
Starting point is 00:06:14 All right. No. This goes to show like how you can just sort of have a vague notion of something if you don't look into it. You're just like, that sounds probably true. So speaking of conspiracies, we were a little bit of assholes on this one. We forgot to mention and thank the cults cryptids and conspiracies podcast. Oh shit, we did.
Starting point is 00:06:35 For having us on as a guest. Last week we were on on their, their, their old podcast. It was a wonderful time. They were delightful. Yeah. I want to thank Chelsea and Christina for having us on there. It was a lot of fun to talk to them about Alex. And I has always feel very self-conscious that I just rambled about various Alex related
Starting point is 00:06:54 nonsense. See, I never feel self-conscious because I am who I am and I scream and annoy people. That's it. That's what I got. So if you all want to enjoy that, check them out. You can find them at at C three podcast and that takes you to links. All you need to find them. So thanks again for having us on.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Thank you very much. We enjoyed it. Yeah. For sure. And we're bad at any kind of engagement on social media or knowing when things happen. Definitely not. Nope.
Starting point is 00:07:22 It's a message. He went through. Oh God. We never shared links about our own show. I'm the worst. We're bad at this. So Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode to go over. We're going to be talking about the period of September 9th and 10th, 2020.
Starting point is 00:07:34 I'm Dan. This is 2020. Oh God. Damn it. I had a sort of plan to do a little bit of a more longer scale or like the beginning of the week, but everything just kept happening and like Bob Woodward came out of the woodwork. We both put our fingers up. Pointing at each other to see who's going to break first.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Who's going to do it? Who's going to attack? Who's going to go wrong? It's just, it was too much. I was like, okay, we got it. We got to look as close to present as possible. You've got to be focused. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:11 So we're going to take a look at this and see how Alex is dealing with the fires on the West Coast. Sure. We're going to learn about Trump's tapes. Sure. Sure. Coming out. P-tape.
Starting point is 00:08:24 The P-tape. So yeah, we'll get down to business on that, but before we do, we got to take a moment to listen to some folks who've signed up and our sporting show. So first Benjamin B, thank you so much for an hour, policy Wonk. I'm a Policy Wonk. Thank you very much Benjamin. Lego next, Alex T, thank you so much for an hour, policy Wonk. I'm a Policy Wonk.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Thank you Alex. Lego next, Mel M, thank you so much for an hour, policy Wonk. I'm a Policy Wonk. Thank you very much, Mel. Thank you, next Rory K, thank you so much for an hour, policy Wonk. I'm a Policy Wonk. Thank you very much, Rory. Lego next, Cheryl, thank you so much for an hour, policy Wonk
Starting point is 00:08:56 I'm a Policy Wonk. Thank you Cheryl. Lego next, some guy, all one word, thank you so much for an hour, policy Wonk. I'm a Policy Wonk. What if it's some again? Oh, it could be. Yeah. Thank you very much, some again.
Starting point is 00:09:08 I didn't take that into consideration, I apologize. Next Atticus M, thank you so much for an hour, policy Wonk. I'm a Policy Wonk. Thanks Atticus. Lego and then finally, I'd like to say thank you to somebody who donated on an elevated level. We appreciate that very much. So Nate K, thank you so much for an hour, technocrat.
Starting point is 00:09:22 I'm a Policy Wonk. Crikey mate, that's fantastic, have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro? We got to go full tilt buggy on this Watson. All right, let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin. Why are you pimp so good? My neck is freakishly large.
Starting point is 00:09:38 I declare info war on you. Thank you so much, Nate. Yes. If you're out there listening or thinking, hey, I enjoy this show, I'd like to support these gents. You can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show or. Indeed, again, or you could spend years working on a relative play.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Think about who's involved there. Think about all the characters necessary. Take all of that creative energy. Turn it into generosity. Give it to the world or more specifically a local bear fund or charity, Dan. That's what I want. A bear fund. Bear fund.
Starting point is 00:10:13 God damn it. This is what happens when we call it. We may need a bear fund. I would like a bear fund. Okay. So, Jordan, we're going to start things off here on the ninth. And it's interesting. Alex is talking about like red state, blue state issues, and he reveals what he means
Starting point is 00:10:31 when he says red states. And what he means is he says blue states. It's very interesting. It's not Democrat and Republican or kind of is, but also means something else entirely. It's being rolled out in blue cities and blue states. And I use that term nationwide and worldwide now because they don't call it red, blue, you're pro human, you're red. You're anti human, you know, you're blue.
Starting point is 00:10:52 I guess blue blood globalist, Camelon, whatever you want to call it. So Alex has taken the red and blue of the Democrat and Republican and used it to extend to worldwide. Yes. Yeah, human is red. All right. Anti human blue blood is blue. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Are there regions within other like how about Chile? Is all of Chile like a blue state? I don't know. Red state. Are there smaller? Does he think every country has states? I don't think Alex could really break down state by state or nation by nation. Sure.
Starting point is 00:11:25 He could tell you that Brazil is red. He could tell you that much. I think Brazil is purple right now. Yeah, it's it's strange because those terms already mean something. He's just I would like him to have like that. Waco Waco video from the Animaniacs where he's singing the country song. I would like Alex right next to that juxtapose with just red, blue, red, blue. Everyone hates humans.
Starting point is 00:11:55 So he's talking there about rolling out of all this stuff. And of course, it's about COVID-19 and the public health measures that you're actually secretly about taking over the world. Sure. And it turns out that like him and we responded one way. Some other countries did something different. And this is just nonsense. Meanwhile, in Sweden, they did absolutely nothing.
Starting point is 00:12:15 And now they're saying, actually, COVID didn't exist and we have record low deaths from pneumonia just doesn't exist, basically. That smug tone right there. It doesn't exist, basically. Sure. That I can't even do an impression of it. But that tone there, that condescending fuck tone. Yeah, hate that so much.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Basically, basically, basically, basically, it's all bullshit. Yeah, it's yeah. That's very undeserved, especially for somebody who is at 100% wrong. Yeah, to be treated so condescendingly. Yeah, like, oh, basically, there's no germ theory. Yeah, idiot. So this is a common right wing media lie saying that Sweden didn't do anything to mitigate damage done by the coronavirus, and they got along just fine.
Starting point is 00:12:56 It's essentially an argument against our public health measures using an imaginary version of what a completely different country did as support. The first important point is that Sweden did not do nothing. For instance, they banned gatherings of more than 50 people. They put restrictions on visits to care homes and they restricted bar service at restaurants, but many have said that this approach was not nearly enough. And some of the stats really bear that out. A July article in the BBC points out that over 5,500 people had died from
Starting point is 00:13:24 COVID-19 in Sweden, which gave it, quote, one of the highest death rates relative to population size in Europe. A CBS News article from July points out that the death rate in Sweden is 30% higher than in the United States when the data is adjusted for population size. They didn't do anything and it worked out fine. The strategy that Sweden used would be wrong to call a total success, given the tons of people died. And there's no evidence that the ultimate goal has been achieved.
Starting point is 00:13:51 The presumptive goals were to reach herd immunity, which has not been done, and to protect the economy, which also has not necessarily happened as one might have designed it to. It's crazy how bad ideas that go against the ideas of people who have studied this their entire lives don't work out. It's like it happens every time, Dan. Yeah, but one factor that's made the situation there in Sweden not nearly as bad as it could be is that the population, by and large, is willing
Starting point is 00:14:17 to voluntarily accept protective measures. So if individuals there had acted like Alex and his anti-mask weirdo friend, there's a pretty good chance that could be a complete nightmare in the making. Nobody stormed the state house with guns being like, no, we'll never wear masks. That didn't happen in Sweden. I assume, right? No, are they a blue state or a red state? Probably blue.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Okay, according to Alex. Okay. So yeah, he has this notion that Sweden did nothing. It's all just what are you saying? That's easy to lie about things. Yeah. So Alex gets talking about his fears and his paranoia is about the common election.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Sure. And I'll tell you this, Mark Zuckerberg may or may not become president. No, he's in charge of telling us what's going to happen, apparently, or something. But we do find out who's going to become president. Okay. And Zuckerberg says that it'll be days or even weeks. And once you accept weeks of a delayed election, it'll be months. And on January 20th, if the president and vice president have not been seated
Starting point is 00:15:21 with the electors, then it guess who becomes the president, the 46th president. Nancy, the Cripp Keeper, policy. And then she steps down. Do you know who comes next? Hillary. Come on. Michelle. So he doesn't, he doesn't say he doesn't say no, he just makes those noises.
Starting point is 00:15:57 You can't just make those noises. Fairly you can. So Pelosi would only become president based on her currently being the speaker of the house, but there's no guarantee that she will still be speaker of the house after the November election. Oh, yeah. She has a general election against Shahid Buttar on November 3rd. And although she has a good chance of winning that, there is a chance that she
Starting point is 00:16:16 won't be in office to become president in the scenario Alex is imagining. If Pelosi lost, it's not like Buttar would just automatically become the speaker, though. No, you dethroned the person. It doesn't work that way. No, no, no, if you kill the king, you become the king. That's how it works. It's not like whoever is in California's 12th district just gets to be speaker.
Starting point is 00:16:35 That'd be a weird rule. Yeah, there'd be another Democrat representative who would be chosen to be speaker, but that's also uncertain. The Democrats have a fair majority in the house, but that's not promised. And though it's unlikely the GOP could win back the house, and then they'd get to choose the speaker and we'd fuck around and end up with President Jim Jordan or President Matt Gates. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it'd be, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:57 No, no, no, there's there's two choices and it's all nightmares. Alex is painting a scenario to imply that Pelosi would choose Hillary as her VP, then step down and make Hillary president. This is just about the most unlikely turn of events imaginable, but it really gets under the audience's skin. So this is what he always chooses to portray as the globalist's evil plan because it works, pisses off the audience. Damn it.
Starting point is 00:17:19 I would revolt if Hillary became president. If that if Nancy Pelosi was like, haha, surprise, it's Hillary. Like that's that's a huge fuck off. I'm done. I'm out. No, no, no, that would be late WCW wrestling. Yeah, totally. That would be that would be Hillary comes in with a fucking chair and hits
Starting point is 00:17:38 Nancy Pelosi in the head. And yeah, I'm the president. Yeah, it would be it would be a little much in terms of like convoluted. Like we've lost the thread. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we've got to stop guys. So yeah, I don't know. I don't know how this one's going to fly.
Starting point is 00:17:55 So Alex is, you know, he's dancing around, hitting some news stories, skimming some headlines as he does. This is what Alex calls like a covering the news. OK, Governor Noam rejects report that Sturgis rally led to hundreds of thousands of cases is fiction. Yes, it is. Trump campaign crowd appeared to violate North Carolina mask order. Good.
Starting point is 00:18:19 That's it. That's great coverage of the news. Yeah. Reads a headline. It's like you back. Noam says it's bullshit. Damn. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:28 They didn't wear masks. Better believe it. Yeah. All right. Next story. Yeah. You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to pull up Politico here and I'm going to cover the news. All right. Here we go. Yeah. Let's see what you got.
Starting point is 00:18:39 What's your news? OK, you know, we had some deep analysis here. OK, federal judge blocks Trump's census order on undocumented immigrants. Fuck yeah. Shouldn't have done that. All right. Next story. Ukraine gas company to add Rick Perry to its board. Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:18:56 I don't know. That sounds wrong. Just reading a cold reading headline. Just cold reading that headline made me frustrated. White House moves to curb policing of corporate misbehavior. That's right. That's what they did. All right. Did we do it?
Starting point is 00:19:11 I don't know if anybody has any better understanding of those stories or anything now. I feel like we just wasted a couple of minutes. Now we did great. Great. You wouldn't have known about Rick Perry being invited to join a Ukraine oil company. I still don't. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Yeah, that's true. Did that actually happen? I don't think you can tell that from the headline. I don't know. I just look that was as informative as any news roundup on Alex's show. And I don't even know what those stories were. That's fair. There's a lot of indications of Alex leaning in on this episode
Starting point is 00:19:44 toward kind of intense violent talk. You know, sure. But but it's it's all just about like how, you know, he constantly has this like, you'll know when the time is right. You'll know everything will be, you know, they're trying to go hot. All this stuff. Sure. And like you listen to a clip like this and you're like,
Starting point is 00:20:03 you can't be saying it's some eventual time. Like this has to be when the time is I'm going to get into. The pre-planning for the martial law destabilization collapsed in the stock market race war, the execution of the beta test, then the white paper saying they were going to go operational three months ago. Now they're going operational and we're now in the operation to now be launched. And it's official and they're doing it just like they loaded up a train full of TNT and started it towards the town.
Starting point is 00:20:35 And it's going to just blow up when it hits the town. I mean, it's it's it's it's it's it's it's coming down the tracks. It's only going 100 miles an hour. It's coming right at us. Wow. Wow, indeed. OK, so you'll know when the time is right. There's a train coming to your town with TNT 100 miles an hour. The plan is operational. Sure.
Starting point is 00:20:55 So like later then, I guess. OK. So do you how many trains do you have to get hit by before it's time? Well, I know that Alex isn't big on the whole notion of absorbing the first hit. That's true. In terms of nuclear warfare. Right. Right. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know when you're talking metaphorical trains, but you understand like the point that I'm making isn't so much
Starting point is 00:21:17 that Alex is directly saying you got to go shoot people or anything like that. Sure. The disjointed nature of this rhetoric, the almost self-contradictory hold off. Oh, wait, there's a train full of TNT coming to your town. The plan is operational right now. Like it leaves the audience in a state of complete. Like if you listen to this and you thought Alex was telling you it's time to go kill some people, you would be justified.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Totally. You could make a pretty solid argument from Alex's words that that was the message he was trying to drive to you. Absolutely. If on Monday you say these are the conditions that we know. And when these conditions happen, you have to go kill people. And then you stop there and say, you'll know when it's time. And then on Tuesday, you say the operation has started. They're coming to kill us with a train full of TNT, 100 miles an hour.
Starting point is 00:22:04 It's like a two day old split infinitive. It's you're still saying now is the time just because you're waiting a day in between. It doesn't count. Yeah, it's it's really, really bad to do that to to the audience. Yeah, that's not good. So Alex, you know, I mean, I think probably one of the biggest stories of the week, the last week and a half, 10 days.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Joe Rogan went to Spotify. My man. Yes, I've heard that was the biggest story that I've read so far. Yeah. This year. And when he went, certain episodes were not included in the jump to Spotify. Oh, did they get rid of all those Duncan Trussell ones? Nope. A lot of people didn't like those. He gets a little out there. Duncan's hippie ass is still there.
Starting point is 00:22:52 OK. And that's great. Alex out Milo out. Why? Sargon of a card out. Who could have guessed? Dave Seaman out. Yeah, so I mean, like it, you know, a lot of people made a big deal out of this. And they were like, yeah, but I mean, it kind of makes total sense. And if you're Joe Rogan and Spotify is like, I'll give you a hundred million
Starting point is 00:23:18 dollars, you just got to take down these assholes episodes. Sure. Fuck. Yes. Oh, yeah. Don't care. Yeah. Oh, wait. Oh, no. I can't have Alex Jones episode. I've got to take those off the Spotify archive. Oh, please censor me for a hundred million. All right. I don't give a shit.
Starting point is 00:23:34 All right. There are things that if they were trying to censor you, I would hope that no matter what level of money you receive, you would fight back and fight against it. If they're censoring your Alex Jones episode, you're like, I like a hundred million dollars of it. Fuck Alex. Alex is a piece of shit. He said he was going to gut me. I'm going to get his shit off of here.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Well, that was when he was being a sneaky snake. Joe was being a sneaky snake and he was working for the gobbles. Don't blame the gut E here. No, I'm the gut Earth. Sneaky snake working for the globalist and you know it. That's fair. You knew it. He did know how it started talking about Rogan's kids on the pocket. That was gross. Yeah, that's really fucked up.
Starting point is 00:24:10 So anyway, it's very clear to the external observer that what's going on is that Joe got a really, really good deal. Yeah, that he doesn't have to worry about sponsorships. He doesn't have to worry about any of that. She never guaranteed money for the rest of his career. Totally. Take that money and fucking talk to your weirdo. Comedy friends by Alex. My forever. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:24:36 But it turns out he because he is in Austin also that he's probably going to run into Alex at the Lubies or wherever. Sure. Sure. Not anymore, Dan. Well, that's true. Lubies is a lobbyist shuddering its door. We'll miss you, Lubies. Bye, Lubies. Those old ladies are never going to eat for free again. No, Alex, when I'll be able to pay for sad people's meals in the future.
Starting point is 00:24:58 But I think he knows that like he can't like not talk to Alex ever. Sure. So he's given Alex a line of bullshit. OK. And I told you that that Joe was debating which hundred episodes he was going to keep on YouTube under their deal in which he was going to put on Spotify because they can't be both places. Well, I got word yesterday, I guess Spotify's figuring out how much they need to be on YouTube and have content both places. That was just promote over to Spotify.
Starting point is 00:25:24 I thought it was a very dumb idea to get rid of all those episodes. Oh, so now my episodes will be on both platforms. So see how that works. There was a big debate going on with them about what was the best to do. It's free on Spotify, but they have like a gold member deal. And so they're just figuring it out. It was not a censorship issue. I told you I called up Joe had a 30 minute conversation with him last week
Starting point is 00:25:44 and I told you the truth. It's just that Joe said whatever the most controversial or whatever the highest views are, let me review a list. So Spotify kind of held back some of the highest views, but also some of the thought was controversial. Probably kind of hoping Joe didn't pay attention and then that didn't go over there. But then that they blew up. So there was some truth that it was censorship, but Joe's in control.
Starting point is 00:26:06 So it stopped. I love the idea that within that like a minute, Alex is like, I'm not being censored. Well, there was censorship going on. I mean, yeah, there's a little censorship going on. I have a Spotify premium account and those episodes aren't. Oh, they're not on there. Oh, they're not behind the little paywall. Oh, man, I have heard that so many like that very conversation
Starting point is 00:26:28 from a comic who's been banned from a show. Yeah, like I know they're going to get me back on CYSK for sure. Yeah, it's just like I'm not allowed to go back on for a little while. I just don't want to overbook people. They said it's too controversial that I peed in a glass on stage. Exactly. But look, sometimes you need controversy. You need people who are going to push the envelope, but you can't book them
Starting point is 00:26:51 every five years. The envelope's got to be saved. Got to be every six years. You know, that's why I haven't been on in a while. Totally. I've heard that nonsense before. Get out of here. Oh, God, it's great. I love I love this. This is this is Alex realizing that you've been let down easy, buddy.
Starting point is 00:27:10 You've been let down easy. Yeah, so it turns out that Alex believes that it became a stock issue. OK, they're right at the Spotify stock might have been in trouble if they allowed Alex's Rogan episodes on or something. That sounds right. Joe had said I want to be one of my first guests when I get to Austin. And then that became a huge national issue and the was a stock issue and all the rest of it. But Joe will be here soon and I'll be with him soon.
Starting point is 00:27:37 I'm going to leave it at that because it's really uncanny that his office will be right on the street from me. So it's just it's it's it's weird. It is weird. It is weird. It's not that weird. No, you guys like you have a rental like office space. Yeah, it's a whole like a little mall area for a bunch of sense that Rogan would find something commercially available.
Starting point is 00:27:58 But yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. I would say you probably, you know, might see Joe when he comes to see you. You're not going to be on a show, buddy. Maybe. I mean, if he's still putting some episodes out just on YouTube, then I could see that. YouTube doesn't allow Alex on there. Yeah, but they allow like Rogan to have Alex on. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:21 I mean, those episodes are still on YouTube. Really? Yeah, definitely. Do you have it? And other things that have had Alex on his guest like Patrick Bette David, his interview with Alex isn't isn't gone. Bananas. Yeah. But I don't know. I obviously I don't know the intricacies of this Spotify deal,
Starting point is 00:28:37 but I would guess based on the fact that Alex's episodes did not make the migration. It seems to imply that oh, and if it's with a stock issue, it was a stock issue. They were their stock would have gone down. If Alex was on, if you have Alex on the Joe Rogan podcast, the marketing stand, there's the there's Black Tuesday. And then there's the day Alex is allowed on Spotify. I would assume that if Alex wants to do a podcast with Joe,
Starting point is 00:29:02 it's going to be in the in four studio and it's not going to be the Rogan experience. That sounds right. So Alex gets off this topic, although he does talk about it for a while. And he starts ranting about what it's going to be like when the death of a dollar comes. Sure. They're going to have 10, 20 years of depression and then buy it all up and break our will. And then they'll turn America back on later and have it be a threat to China and have a bipolar world again.
Starting point is 00:29:26 But but right now they want to have China take over and have a big run probably for 50 years. And so probably the folks. I start thinking about what the death of the dollar would look like. We're talking great depression, but 10 times worse. And we're talking war on the streets. And so I'll talk about that coming up. Speaking of the devil. I don't want to exaggerate, but let's put up the name of the story.
Starting point is 00:29:56 I can offer to you this place. This this headline is not an exaggeration. Save him for war. Save the republic. Save yourself. OK. Speaking of the devil. Yeah. I got to sell you something. Yeah. So we could fight the literal devil. Yeah. Oh, the death of the dollar is coming. And everything is going to be so terrible.
Starting point is 00:30:14 So use those dollars to buy my pills. You won't need them later. Yeah. Dollars going to die. You better use them now. So Alex needs your money immediately. And he rambles quite a bit on this episode about going out of business in the very near future. And as is not my new tradition, I refuse to take the bait.
Starting point is 00:30:35 I'm not going to take the bait, Alex. I literally have agonized over this last few weeks. But I'll just tell you, we have everything we have in stock. A lot of it we can't even reorder. Everything's breaking down. The supply chain is breaking down. Everything's falling apart. We're under massive Chinese government hack attack right now.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Both sides, they're secure, but it slows them down. Costs us tons of money to fight it. This is a real war. So if you ever wanted an info wars t-shirt, or you ever wanted to get an election of your breeze, or you ever wanted to buy some of the supplements to see how they are and support us. Now's the time, folks. You don't want to wait.
Starting point is 00:31:06 This is sudden death over time, super bowl, but for the whole future, everybody. And with all their strategic attacks and the things that are going on, I need to get fuel on the gas tank. Let's say the fuel tank is on a tenth of a tank and I've got to go a hundred miles. I've got enough gas to go 50 miles.
Starting point is 00:31:27 OK, so there's a lot of things I can do. I have to make decisions. And I've seen the big support last week, big support this week. That buys us the extra support we just got. Bought us maybe in my gas tank another three weeks. I need I need to sell everything. I am not taking the bait, Alex. No, no. And I'm not.
Starting point is 00:31:46 I'm definitely not dealing with a barrage of similes like that ever again. He is the master of metaphor. He knows how to really just paint a word picture of. It's like a gas tank that's one tenth full. I got to go 100 miles, but I can only go 50 miles. It's like I've got an empty stomach, but I'm hungry and I only have one donut hole. So you guys got to give me more donut holes.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Otherwise, my stomach is going to be empty. Makes total sense. It's makes a bird. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So it's bad, man. Yeah. So I'm probably just going to say we're selling out everything and then sell it at full price and then hope we have enough money to buy stuff into the future or go back to an advertising model or donations model, which people don't respond to.
Starting point is 00:32:28 I don't know. I wonder why myself because if Trump loses and they're going to put us in a depression anyway, it's just going to be so hellish. We're all going to enjoy it together. I mean, I feel sorry for everybody, man. I dropped my best, you know what I mean? But I mean, it's bad. It's bad. It's bad. It's bad. Yeah, this feels almost exactly the same as we've been here before.
Starting point is 00:32:47 I think it was December, right? Yeah. When it was almost exactly like this, I probably can't order more stock. Yeah. But now there's two possibilities because I hadn't heard that kind of shit before December. So it's possible that Alex has just had to escalate to like new levels of I need you to support the or it's possible that that was kind of accurate then and he got enough to escape by.
Starting point is 00:33:15 And now he's back in the same hole that he was in before. I don't know. But again, I'm not taking the bait. But it bears mentioning that this is going on again. It's happening again to a level that is. I would call overwhelming when you listen to the if you listen to his episode, it's like, wow, this is this is a lot. Yeah, this is happening over and over and over again. So Alex gets into a little bit of etymology here.
Starting point is 00:33:43 We know that a lot of his guests don't know how words work. No, that's definitely true. And it turns out that he believes them probably because he just doesn't understand words either. Yeah. Yeah. It's like in that movie, Elysium, where she says, you know, you'll be lucky if you don't hang for this. He goes, hang, we do the hanging. That's all that gives orders like Tony Montana says his balls.
Starting point is 00:34:03 And this isn't about bragging. It's about you knowing how powerful you are. You are just as important as anybody in the government, anybody at the Newark Times, anybody at the Financial Times of London, anybody at the FBI. You're a sovereign person. That's not a slave. You're a good person. Uh oh. And Info Wars is directly organic out of the dirt.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Like a lily out of the Nile mud. Oh, boy. You are Moses. That's what Moses is after. Gipshin word for lily in the mud. That's not true. I just love the confidence of that. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:42 Just such a just like any object. Just a that's a pen. Do you know where the word pen comes from? Where's that? It comes from the Sumerian for pen. Oh, cool. Yeah, it's great. I know all about it.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Well, it's because the serpent loves word games. That's where Jesus comes from. So, uh, yeah, I would say that there's a real interesting difference between being like, hey, you're just as valid as anybody who writes for the New York Times or anybody in the FBI. They're just a person like you. Just a person. And there is some truth to that on just like being a human.
Starting point is 00:35:16 That's why you should arrest an FBI agent if you don't like them. Yeah, there's different things that people in different positions are capable of doing. That is true. You know, I think if you have a pair of handcuffs, you can arrest people. Basically, I think that's how that works. I think that's a functional plan. So I also love that Alex opened that with two movie references.
Starting point is 00:35:38 That is impressive. Like within 15 seconds, just two movies. Yeah, it's Elysium. It's like Tony Montana. It's like Tony Montana. Wow. Absolutely. So he keeps rambling about he and his boys, the good people. They're the ones who do the killing.
Starting point is 00:35:53 We're on the ground. We see what's really going on. We're where the crops are grown, where the engines get fixed, where the diapers get changed, where the dinner gets cooked, where the house gets cleaned, where the cuts get stitched, where the fighting gets done and the killing. You guys are busy. Just take a break. Step into that office.
Starting point is 00:36:15 This is where the living and the dying happens. This is where you come into the world. You go out of the world. Yeah, I'm in the living part. Fine. Stop with the killing. Stop with the killing. Yeah, you're fucking you're creeping me out. Man, it just doesn't seem like the good guys are ever described as we love killing.
Starting point is 00:36:33 We're the ones who do the killing. We do all the killing. We're the good guys, right? Generally is at least a suspicious side. Yeah. So but the thing is, like, you know, hey, look, if we're the ones who are doing the killing, that's fine. Because the other side, they ain't got no soul, baby.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Oh, no. They're like running around with a hanger and pulling the pins above themselves up, hoping some of the shrapnel hits us. I mean, this is followers. This is slaves doing this. These are pathetic people. Don't let Zuckerberg demoralize you. He's a pathetic nobody.
Starting point is 00:37:02 All of them have been chosen because they're so weak and so spiritless, they have no God in them, nothing, no connection to the father, no connection is all synthetic garbage. Mark Zuckerberg is one of the poorest people on earth. I get it. But they know you're rich spiritually. That's why they want to make you poor so you don't have money to be free. Money is not worshiped like they worship it because it gives them control.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Money is a symbol of energy and I need it. What? Continue the fight. So I'm going to tell you right now, 50 percent off DNA Force Plus. Wow. That was impressive. Yes, that was impressive. That really was impressive. That was a twist. Yeah. There was craft to that.
Starting point is 00:37:47 I don't know. It felt more like flailing. It could have been flailing. It kind of felt more like somebody who like you've seen those videos of people who are skydiving and they somehow survive with that. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. That's really what that felt like to me. That was like, yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:38:02 I don't know. You made it. You landed, but it was ugly. I think that was really ugly. That is. I could see that being a riff that was just going on too long and then he heard himself say money and he's like, money's my out, buddy. I got stuff to sell. Speaking of money.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Yeah. And also he said Mark Zuckerberg. Sure. Remember that. OK, because he knows what his name is. Is he in the 12th is weird. OK. So Alex gets gets back from break and he's talking about some culture issues. And man, this dude could get mad about anything. And I haven't even gotten in all the race war news. I mean, just one of the craziest part of the
Starting point is 00:38:38 technocracy is the biggest video game sports maker of video games came out. And they have a game where Colin Kaepernick's the best quarterback in the NFL. I mean, he used to all those games actually went off the real ratings. He's not a very good quarterback. There's some great black quarterbacks. But what are we doing? Black anyways? Yikes. What are we doing? Yikes. What are we doing? I mean, leaving the race race, the racism aside, man, I can't imagine
Starting point is 00:39:07 how angry he was when NBA Jam Tournament edition. Bill Clinton in the game. Bill Clinton can't talk. They used to, you know what? NBA Jam used to be about the ratings. It was. It was. It used to be about the ratings. You know, Gary Payton, drilled threes all day. Absolutely. No. Yeah. No. Let me see him do one crossover. Ronnie.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Cycley. That's a guy who can dunk. Bill Clinton, Al Gore. Absolutely not. What are they doing in the game? Oh, boy. Can you imagine if NBA Jam had Bill Clinton in both realistic stats? Totally. See, here's what here's what Alex is missing. What he needs to do is stop complaining about adding people to games and start inviting them to add more people to different games. Mortal Kombat. Why isn't Bill Clinton a playable character?
Starting point is 00:39:58 Sure. That's a good question. That is a great question. Ask Ed Boone. Exactly. We got to start this. So yeah, I don't know. Alex seems really bent out of shape about the idea that Colin Kaepernick has good stats in a video game. And let me go ahead and respond to this by saying I don't care. Oh, why not?
Starting point is 00:40:17 It's a statement of our values, right? As a country to put Colin Kaepernick into a video game. This is Alex. I mean, still technically a free agent. Yeah. And he's still in the game. He's not a bad football player. No, he's actually quite good. Yeah. He's actually very good at that. I didn't even look into this to find like, oh, what are the stats?
Starting point is 00:40:36 Is Alex exaggerating this? Yeah. I can't care. I just can't care. I remember the fact that Alex cares is embarrassing. It is a problem. It's embarrassing. It is a problem. Oh, world leaders, listen to my show where I complain about black quarterbacks have a good stat.
Starting point is 00:40:53 There are some good black quarterbacks. So this isn't a race thing, but I don't race thing. But I don't want the ones whose political views I disagree with to have good stats in a video game. You know, a lot of people, you know, a lot of people don't like Don Mcnab, but I'll tell you what, he was a good quarterback. Putin sitting around. He's like, Alex has very interesting ideas about this video game.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Indeed. I'll have to talk to my enemy, the literal devil. Yikes. So Zuckerberg, he appears to be rich, like Alex has already touched on. And he has money, naturally, but he can only do his overlords. Let him do destroy democracy. They have to. He has to ask for permission. People like Zuckerberg get told how big a jet he can have and how many houses and what he can buy.
Starting point is 00:41:39 OK, by J. P. Morgan Chase, Goldman Sachs and others is a front man. He was told by Bill Gates. I mean, Bill Gates has finally gotten the table of the round table at the highest levels. I thought he was in the 12th. His minion, his trainee, his apprentice. He is. Jeff Zuckerberg, come on over to what's up. Oh, my earpiece has popped out.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Oh, sorry, it doesn't matter. So now it's Jeff Zuckerberg. I think that was a Bezos Zuckerberg. He does this a lot. Yeah, it's really sloppy. Yeah. Um, yeah. I mean, maybe Zuckerberg is told how many houses he can buy by his financial advisor. Yeah. Maybe as people who tell him, hey, don't waste. Still don't care.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Still don't. If he buys more than one house, I still don't care. I still don't care. Also, we're in this weird sort of Schrodinger's Bill Gates situation where he's a member of the Council of 12. He's one of the leaders of the world, unless G. Edward Griffin is on the show. Sure. And he thinks that Bill Gates is a middleman. Oh, I know. Scousen. Scousen was the middleman.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Scousen saying that Bill Gates is a middleman. Yeah. And now Bill Gates is in some kind of limbo where he was a middleman, but now he's finally got his seat at the table. But even then, we don't know if the table is the 12th or I think the table is the 12th. We might have gotten rid of the 12th entire. I don't know. It's a big table. So Alex is still mad about Cabernet. Uh-huh. The greatest Nazi. If you want to be a real Nazi, a real race-based person wanting race war
Starting point is 00:43:22 and wanting racial identity, it's Colin Cabernet. For PR purposes and all of it, he's the greatest Nazi. And then if you talk about black folks, you know, he's the greatest so-called black guy that's closest to Hitler, who's closest to Christ. I'm not comparing him to Christ, I'm saying who's the closest to that in the Italian West. Wow. What? Wait. All right. Wait, what just happened? All right. Did I just hear that Colin Kaepernick, a guy who was blackballed for kneeling during the anthem
Starting point is 00:43:49 is actually a Nazi? Yeah. Because he was blackballed for kneeling during the anthem? Yeah. Closest to a Nazi you can get. Alex is sort of ranking black celebrities. It does seem like that. Is there he's kind of arguing that there's an equilibrium of black celebrities? There's a continuum and on one side is Colin Kaepernick and on the other is closest to Jesus. Right. And that's Kanye West.
Starting point is 00:44:12 All right. I feel like those aren't the ends of the spectrum. No. And I don't have anything to say that would like I don't want to dignify this with any kind of like even response. You don't want to say that the book continuum. No. I reject the ideal altogether. I just present this as, oh, this is Alex's brain works. That's weird. That's a weird thing for a human to think. Yeah. So Alex gets into talking about a new story.
Starting point is 00:44:39 There's an actual story and it's about voting and yeah, it's a bit off. One thousand people illegally voted twice during primary elections using advocacy ballots. And I read what the state official over this said. He looked into it. That was a sampling. And they found a thousand videos up on infowars.com, Georgia Secretary of State, Brad Raffin Springer confirmed that at least one thousand Georgian votes twice in the state's June 9 primary. Oh, and guess who they mainly were? I think you can guess what party cheats a lot.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Yours? Yeah, I'm going to go with yours. This Georgia primary story is interesting because there is something going on here, but it actually doesn't work out at all for Alex's voter fraud narratives about the presidential election. Alex has been arguing against expanding mail-in voting, but he's always made the point that absentee voting is totally cool. He has to believe that because Trump says that and he's nothing. That's not a follower. This is where the Georgia story is a problem.
Starting point is 00:45:40 All these instances that he's talking about are cases of people who sent in absentee ballots who also showed up on election day to the polls and voted. So it has nothing to do with the fears and conspiracies about mail-in votes. This story also highlights that people who do this sort of thing get caught. The evidence is that they did. I don't understand. What do you mean? Well, the situation here is very unclear because the investigation is still ongoing, but there are a couple of benign possibilities here that aren't good,
Starting point is 00:46:08 but also aren't really intentional election fraud. One possibility is that people sent in absentee ballots and didn't know if they'd been counted, so they thought they should vote in person to be sure, which isn't good, but they also might not have known that that was a crime. Sure. The second possibility is brought up in an article in the Atlanta Journal Constitution. Quote, voters are allowed to cancel their absentee ballots and then vote at polling places
Starting point is 00:46:30 as long as their ballots haven't yet been received by election officials. It's unclear whether the voters under investigation attempted to do so. So there are possible explanations to this that boil down to bad voter education and poor communication about the process, but not criminal intent. Yeah, I've been on Yahoo Answers. I imagine somebody was told like, if you feel like you voted wrong, go to the polling place and vote for the other guy to cancel it out.
Starting point is 00:46:59 Well, like it's borderline that level of, I get it. Well, you could have been on Yahoo Answers or you could have gone to Trump's rally in North Carolina last week where he literally said, quote, so send it in and then see and then vote and see what happens. Now you're assured that you're very precious and important vote has been counted. Trump was explicitly telling his followers to try to vote twice. The very thing that Alex is yelling about some people possibly doing in Georgia.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Yeah, exactly. Also in the primary, it's Democrats running against Democrats and Republicans against Republicans. Yeah. So I'm unclear how this conspiracy is supposed to be working. I don't know. Don't you get it? I don't.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Because it only happens in the Democratic primary because they're cheating even each other because blue states don't have souls, Dan. And also I'm going to have to say that Uruguay is a blue state as well. I just have to. So yeah, I don't understand exactly what the point here is. And I also don't really know what all the details are of the actual story in Georgia. But I think it's interesting and I think more information will be known eventually. But yeah, I think it's entirely possible that there was no necessarily attempt
Starting point is 00:48:07 to fraudulently vote as much as people didn't know what the deal was. And I mean, in this election cycle, you would expect to see increased incidences of that along with just completely screwed up voting systems. People who don't understand, you know, people who are new to absentee ballots, not knowing the process exactly, it makes sense that there would be some hiccups. And the fact that people are able to catch this means that those checks are also in place. Yeah, if you want to get rid of this type of mail-in fraud ballots or whatever it is, if you want to deal with that type of fraud, I bet if you made Election Day a holiday,
Starting point is 00:48:47 made sure that everybody had the education on how to vote, got paper ballots only and standardized that across the entire country, we wouldn't be in this kind of situation. Yeah. Nah, fuck it. Fair enough. According to Alex, just fucking just let Trump be in charge. Just make him king. I'm bored.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Yeah. So for the rest of this episode, an hour of this episode, Alex has a buddy of his, Shane Steiner. Okay. Because Shane went down to the old boat parade in Lake Travis. Sure. And he has some, he has some thoughts about it. Shane was in the crash.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Well, no, he was jumping out of a helicopter. All right, let's hear him tell the story. By the way, my buddy Shane Steiner flew his helicopter around. Trust him. Amazing HD footage of the biggest Trump boat rally yet. Probably 6,000 boats are saying like Travis likes wiki and word is it's coming up again this Saturday. He's coming in studio to talk about that and more and show that HD footage.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Stay with us. So yeah, some boats did sink. So he's not, that's he's bearing the lead on that one, right? Well, this was a, this was a huge success in his, in his mind. Look, I heard from people that were out there on the boats that said that was the most fun they've ever had on Lake Travis. Everybody's out there having a good time. Everyone's having a good time, man.
Starting point is 00:50:06 I've heard from people that it was not the most fun time they've ever had. Oh, because they were inside the water under a bro. Well, look, man, the news says that. Okay. I hate to admit this, but I just found out what gas lighting is and it's when your own eyes now are telling you something different than you're being told is going on. And so that's what that whole day was. So when I got home and started reading the articles of all the boats sinking and just
Starting point is 00:50:34 the chaos and that they said seven boats. It was all exaggerated. Well, I mean, if you get 6,000 boats, something's going to happen though. Oh my God. Now I'm not going to say that. No, but they acted like it was our modest just going down at the helm. But I love this idea that he's like, oh, feel so gasoline by the news saying the boats are now some boats did sink.
Starting point is 00:50:53 I don't, I still don't think you understand what gas lighting is. Just the fact that you defined it. Yeah. That's very difficult. Now I'm not going to say that no boat sank. People are calling it like there's Armada. Now there were 6,000 boats. No, he's saying that like some Armada sunk a bunch of boats.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Yeah. And sure. I mean, great. There was the coverage of the event did largely focus on the fact that boats sank. But that's because that's the anomaly. Yeah. Otherwise it's just a bunch of assholes on boats. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:23 What makes it newsworthy is a lot of them. Yeah. Otherwise none of us cared. Don't understand why this is so confusing for Mr. Shane Steiner on your boats. That's fine. So this is the weirdest hour because it has nothing to do with anything important. Sure. It barely has to do with his adventure in Lake Travis.
Starting point is 00:51:45 It mostly has to do with how great having a helicopter is. That actually sounds fun. It's not. That sounds fun. Having a helicopter. Oh, yeah. Not listening to this interview. Bill Burr makes it sound great.
Starting point is 00:51:56 I assume this guy makes it sound great. He's like, hey, you know, it's really safe and they say that it's not safe. Okay. I don't care. I don't care. But you know, apparently there's like commercial or like a sort of civilian drones that fly around. Sure.
Starting point is 00:52:10 That can make things more dangerous. I believe that. As Alex and Shane and say in the talk about in this next clip, they almost got hit by a drone one time. The drones flying around actually is a risk to other pilots. In fact, we almost ran into one. We ran into a drone one time. We were flying around downtown and big one came right up.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Yeah. It was eye level to us and they kind of went off to the left and we went off to the right, but then we just passed each other. He did. Luckily he was watching. He flew right up in front of us. He went, yeah. But still, I mean, if that would have flown into us, that would have been a, that would
Starting point is 00:52:40 have been fun. That was an Imperial prob droid. He was going to bring it back to Star Wars. Well, I mean, not that I'm even into it. Aren't you glad Star Wars? The whole franchise is bankrupt now, because I made an SJW. Yeah. I mean, it, yeah, it's kind of going down.
Starting point is 00:52:57 In the past five years, the Star Wars franchise has brought in approximately six billion dollars at the box office. If you include solo and rogue one, which is way, way more than they cost to make the force awakens is the number four highest grossing film of all time. Star Wars is nowhere near bankrupt, but this is the right wing narrative that they use to make themselves feel like their opposition to diverse casts. It seems like it's more universally held than it actually is. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Yeah. Oh boy. Shut the fuck up. It's, I'm not even really that into it. Shut the fuck up. You know what that moment was there? What? Alex brings up repeatedly in this interview that he and Shane went to high school together.
Starting point is 00:53:37 So this is like a guy who's like, oh, you dork. Oh, this is him. And that's Alex. And Alex is, Alex is getting bullied. Yeah. Oh God. Alex Steiner is a guy who's like a lot more in shape and sure he had a hit on the country music charts back in the early 2000s.
Starting point is 00:53:54 So like, yeah, why not? He has a bit more status than Alex. He flies around in a helicopter. And that, that of course makes Alex turn into, I'll roll over and let you scratch my belly. Yeah. You always bring back stores. I'm not even into that story. I'm not even into that story.
Starting point is 00:54:11 I'm not even into the story. I'm not even into the story. That's what I do. Impressions of Emperor Palpatine all the fucking time. Yeah. And I've come into every show with the Imperial March. Well, that's just a great song. I just think it's a great song.
Starting point is 00:54:22 It's not that good. It's just a good song. I'm not a big fan. Not that. No, no, no. It's SJW. SJW bankrupt nonsense. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Bankrupt Star Wars. Six billion dollars. Look, it's sure it's the size of a small economy. All three of the last Star Wars movies that came out are in the top like 35 movies in terms of box office gross of all time. Of course they are. It's kind of a big deal. It's huge.
Starting point is 00:54:50 A lot of people like it. Yeah. So now we jump to the 10th because the rest of it is just helicopter talk and I don't care. All right. Well, we're going to have to get rid of my new phone number idea, 1-800-HELICOPTER-TALK. That's too many letters. Is that too many letters?
Starting point is 00:55:05 Yeah. On the evening of the ninth, Woodward came out of the woodwork and a lot of the excerpts of the book started to go around. People were talking about, I mean, what do you think was the big news? Let's see. Oh, what was it? Trump, Trump did, Trump said something about some sort of like global disease, I think. I'm pretty sure he said that it was a giant hoax and that no one should pay attention
Starting point is 00:55:38 to it. And he was recorded saying it. CNN put out those tapes that he said it was a giant hoax way back, right? No. No, it's not. He didn't say that. I can't even tell what your bit is. Oh, I was being sarcastic.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Okay. Because he said that coronavirus was more very serious and it was airborne. Yeah. He said it was airborne. And he said that he always tries to under downplay it. Yeah, sure. You got to downplay it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:03 So, that was what a lot of the media was reporting. That was sort of the headline because it's terrifying and what? Because it makes Trump a premeditated murderer. An argument could be made and there are fucking tapes that you can hear of Trump literally saying those things. That was Anthony Atamanick. That's everybody knows that he does the best Trump. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:27 So, when I was sitting around looking at the news of this come out, I was like, this is going to be trouble for Alex. I didn't think it would be. I kind of figured he'd be able to find some way to much like again, the guy jumping out of an airplane. Sure, sure. Accidentally land right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:46 I figured there was something he was going to be able to do or like be like, yeah, you know what? Trump was just doing that. To be like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was, yeah, this is all part of his 12th dimensional chess game. Yeah. Alex went a slightly different direction.
Starting point is 00:56:58 All right. So, here you can see how there's two different media ecosystems and they're reporting on the same underlying story with the different versions. Yep. So, there's a blurb from Bob Woodward's new book that Alex and Zero Hedge have decided to run with and make the main focus, which is General Mattis apparently had a conversation with Dan Coates about how there may come a time when action would need to be taken because Trump was dangerous.
Starting point is 00:57:40 This can be the lead of the story and the thing that's the most important and it allows these people to just ignore or dismiss the other elements of this story that like we talked about that other outlets are focusing on, which is terrifying. Yeah. It's like the boats, you know, a lot of people aren't realizing how much fun we had along the way. Yeah. Two different media ecosystems, two different realities, except the mainstream press.
Starting point is 00:58:06 They also cover the Mattis elements of the story. You can find tons of articles about that, but I wonder, wonder if Alex will also spend some time on the Trump absolutely lied about this virus publicly for political benefit for him. Sure. Let's say, I mean, I don't know. Will he mention it? What's his take on it?
Starting point is 00:58:22 Well, I mean, he does talk a bit more about Woodward's book. Woodward's book is a lot of lies and a lot of stuff. It's true. I know it's true. I know it isn't because I've studied the whole thing. Aha. Oh, boy. So a lot of its lies, almost all of its lies, but then there's some truth and I will dictate
Starting point is 00:58:38 to you what the truth is and then by, you know, matter of exclusion, by, you know, process of elimination, you can tell that the things that I'm not talking about, those are lies. The thing I keep going back to, which is the big reason that Bob Woodward can go fuck himself forever and fuck him is that those tapes could have come out in what, March? I believe it's somewhere around there. Dan, we were still in it's over for humanity mode in March. If those tapes had come out, then the right wing propaganda narrative would have had to go in a completely different direction.
Starting point is 00:59:16 It would have. Yeah. There's no other way. Yeah. So Bob Woodward essentially, and it's not coming back. Yeah. There's no way to, there's no way that Bob is going to put this out, just like we just saw with Alec.
Starting point is 00:59:27 He doesn't put this out and then the right wing goes, whoops. Right. I'm not defending his decision and I think, I, I think I tend to agree with you that it's, it's malpractice to have not put this out earlier, especially given the way that things have gone and the consequences that we've seen in the world. It's disgusting. Um, I, the only reason I have any pause here is I haven't heard a reason why he didn't and I wonder if there is some reason that I'm not considering.
Starting point is 00:59:55 He's given a reason and the Washington Post have both given reason. What's that? They are not good. What's that? His reasoning was, well, I needed to do more reporting on it and make sure that I got the whole story right. That seems a little flimsy. It's very flimsy.
Starting point is 01:00:11 I don't know what goes into that sort of thing though. I mean, I, I'm not, again, I don't, I don't see that as a really great excuse. It's not. But it's also coming from me, someone who's not in that position. Sure. I don't know what legal issues there are, but that being said, I feel like, you know, especially in a situation like this, there, you could make an argument that there's a moral imperative that legal consequences be damned.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Absolutely. Um, without question. Yeah. It would have changed the right wing propaganda narrative. Which has been largely the driver of what is a large part of what has made this so difficult for our country to, they would have had to go in a complete opposite direction where it is over for humanity. They would have had to keep going on that route.
Starting point is 01:00:56 I just, I'm just blown away. It's just fucked up. And I mean, here's, here's what it is. He recorded Trump saying, I am letting people die for my personal benefit. And he held on to that in order to sell books, meaning that Bob Woodward is letting people die for his personal benefit. It is the same action and it's disgusting. It really is.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Yeah. I find it difficult to not hear that as a pretty, pretty sensible point of view. Yeah. It's a pretty big bummer. Yeah. It's a real big bummer. So anyway, back to our issue here today with Alex, the thing you need to know is that all of Bob Woodward's book isn't true.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Except for the parts that are true. Except for the part that Alex wants to be true. Sure. So all of Woodward's book is a lie. We'll go over that except for the fact that they were plotting a coup, which is totally illegal and criminal, but now they're lionizing it because they're preparing another one when Trump doesn't accept the fraudulent results when they try to steal the election. So the only part of this that's true is the part that's useful to me and everything else
Starting point is 01:02:11 is all lies. So just ignore it. We won't even really even talk about it. That's mean. Also, no conversation about the fires in the West. None. None. None that I recall in these episodes.
Starting point is 01:02:23 It's fucking a quarter of our country is on fire right now and no talking about it. No, because there's bigger issues. Oh, okay. In what is Mexico today all the way down into Central and South America by the collapse of the Mesoamerican society that happened right as Cortez arrived, they were already collapsed. The main source of meat was human flesh of children. They had shops down at the bottom of the pyramids with hanging children.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Shops. People came and bought the meat. People would routinely eat their own children after they were gutted. They'd go buy an arm or a leg. That's how they can get us to not care about human life. That was going on everywhere. It's not a sustainable system in any means. Humans are not nearly as nutritious as maybe you'd like to imagine.
Starting point is 01:03:10 So the giving birth for food thing, that's a real fucked up thing to do. Well, it's all resource wise. Sure. Especially at a time when maybe you don't survive childbirth. Considering how much you have to eat to bring the child to serve. Yeah. The amount of time it takes, the gestational period. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Yeah. It doesn't. No, that's a poor economy. Yeah. There's no way you could have a main source of meat. Yeah. Maybe you could for like a week. But then it's all over.
Starting point is 01:03:45 I think it would have to be like a 50-50 thing. Everybody gets to eat one person and then it's over. Yeah. Until you've got one person. You know. Very dumb. And I for an eye, leave everybody hungry. Everybody will go down to the store and get an arm.
Starting point is 01:03:59 See, I thought the way to make people OK with killing people was to dehumanize them and perhaps even say that they didn't have a soul and they have no correct connection to your creator. No. That's what I thought. No, that's Americana. Oh, that's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:15 So, I mean, this is, this blew my mind. I didn't realize that, did you know that there are parts of your body called life switches? Right. But of course, the Bill Gates vaccines are linked to turning off a chromosome in the cells that is a life switch. It throws a kill switch. I just can't make this up. Of course, it's a kill switch.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Oh, he wants us to die. He really wants you to take this. He says it's going to make you really sick. You're going to get a lot of these shots. Then they're going to manage covering all that up. It's all a big, sick laboratory test. But listen, with what's happening in the supply chain breakdown and all the craziness and China hoarding food and Europe and governments and elites digging into bunkers, you need to
Starting point is 01:05:02 get your storeable food one to two weeks for delivery now. God damn. Yeah. God damn. Yeah. They're going to turn your life switch off. Yep. Got to get some storeable food.
Starting point is 01:05:11 He is, he is banging on all cylinders. God damn. Here's a little bit later. Okay. But I'm just telling you, this is the big move. The enemy is going to try a coup. They're going to blow up power plants, set nukes off, I don't know anything. Race riots, false flags, we're in the season of war.
Starting point is 01:05:25 America is fighting for its life. They're going to contest the election. This is absolutely horrible. The Justice Department's got a bunch of WIMPs in it. They're not in control of anything. And we are just sending ducks to authoritarians, but I think God will help us with Providence. We'll make it out of this. But it's up to you now.
Starting point is 01:05:38 But get your storeable food and products now, then forward shore.com while you still can. Nailed it. They're going to blow up power plants, nuke cities. Just, I've just read the Bible too many times to think that it's okay for you to be like, I think Jesus is going to get us through it and you need to buy storeable food. You can't have those back to back. You can't. Doesn't seem good.
Starting point is 01:05:59 This was pretty against that idea. Yeah. So, Bob Woodward's book is obviously the main media cycle. And Alex's version of it is all about this thing, about Mattis. And so like, if I'm going to handle this story, I got to call in my big guns. Rodgerstone, what do you make of the coup plot against America? I mean, even zero hedge gets it right. Mattis wanted to overthrow the U.S. government.
Starting point is 01:06:26 I mean, that's what this is. I know we were working on Rodger's audio earlier. Rodger, can you hear me? Don't say the N word. Let's go with the phone like I originally wanted, guys. Okay. Let's just do it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Well, Rodger, can you hear me? Yes, he didn't hang up. He's on the line, guys. He just doesn't have audio. Hi. I'm with you. Oh, boy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:00 That was bad. Yeah. I was really praying he wouldn't say something really unsavory. Yeah. So was Alex, I'm sure. Yeah, I believe it. So here's here's Rodger's take on things. Now you have this latest flap with Bob Woodward.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Why would Bob Woodward, why would anyone believe anything he says? Now? Oh, I don't know. Now, I'm here to not necessarily stand up for Bob Woodward. No. I'm going to say that maybe Roger Stone is not the best source to call whatever Woodward is being discussed. I think there might be a conflict of interest there.
Starting point is 01:07:36 Who would believe this guy? Yeah. He's got to believe this guy. You don't want to talk to a guy who has a Nixon tattoo about whether Woodward, Bob Woodward. Why not? Why not? Why would anybody believe anything that Bob Woodward says?
Starting point is 01:07:49 It's like interviewing a guy about Upton Sinclair who has like a tattoo of a dirty factory on his back or something. What do you think? It's all lies. It's all lies. Yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:04 Come on. They're just trying to take down Goodman. There's real comedy in the fact that Roger Roger is like, yeah, all right. Of all people. Yeah. Of all people. He's who Alex has. Like, oh, man.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Probably, you know, I don't know if there is a more partisan pro. Nixon person to talk to. Yeah. You know, like, I just don't know. Maybe a family member. I don't even know about that. Probably not. He was a dick to his family.
Starting point is 01:08:33 True. He was a dick, period. Yeah. I think Roger is about as good as you're going to get. And it does not come up this weird conflict of interest about Watergate. That's odd. But oh, well. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:08:45 Come on. So Roger yells about how Trump needs to seize all the ballots in Nevada. Sure. The ballots in Nevada on election night should be seized by federal marshals and taken from the state. They are completely corrupted. No vote should be counted from the state of Nevada. If that turns out to be the provable case, we can prove voter fraud in the
Starting point is 01:09:10 absentee right now. So if this is proven, then we should seize all the ballots and we can prove it now. So that means the Trump should go ahead and seize all the ballots. You might as well just seize them right now. Yikes. Have they ever noticed that when they condemn like other countries for doing stuff that's anti-democratic, that they're saying that we should do that,
Starting point is 01:09:32 anti-democratic stuff? Well, I mean, you can even take it less abstract than that. Alex is about to get engaged in what could be a very difficult election process. Sure. And covering it. And it might go to the courts. Courts might get involved.
Starting point is 01:09:50 Sure. And he's doing that with the assistance and the expertise of Roger Stone. Correct. Who was involved in the Brooks Brothers situation. Well. And the stopping of the recount in Florida in 2000 that led to and precipitated Bush being named president, which Alex thinks is an illegal carrying out of a stealing of an election that Roger Stone was directly involved in.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Well, he helps steal it. So now Alex is his guy is not only coming on to talk about Woodward and not citing his biases and how other people are stealing elections. He's also going to be making rationalizations and probably engaging in similar behaviors as he did in the 2000 election. Yeah. And Alex back then would have said it was stealing an election. Of course.
Starting point is 01:10:40 And now it's just good stuff. Totally. That's the problem with Roger and Alex and all of this stuff. It's how they're framing things. And it's we've seen this with Alex constantly. And I think that Roger does a little more clearly. I'd like to have an honest election in which the real winner takes office. The real winner will not be Joe Biden.
Starting point is 01:11:08 That's unimpeachable. Yeah. Unimpeachable logic. I want a fair election where the rightful winner wins and the rival winner cannot be Joe Biden in a fair election. Exactly. By definition, he cannot win a fair election. Therefore, any election where Joe Biden wins is not a fair election.
Starting point is 01:11:26 Trump is the only possible winner. Right. Therefore. Of course. Everyone knows that in every fair election there is a foregone winner and the election itself is pointless. This is such a normal point on Alex's show at this point that if you're listening to it, you've just probably absorbed it as a fact.
Starting point is 01:11:44 There's no possible chance that Biden could win in any fair scenario. Totally. It's dangerous. That's a fucked up thing. So Roger has to go and Alex needs another guest. Needs another marquee guest. And when it's time to talk about potential coups. We got one man.
Starting point is 01:12:05 That's right. Oh yeah. Steve Pachanik is in the mix. Alex wants to talk about how dangerous it is that Mattis is trying to plan this coup. And here's Steve's response. An attempted coup is really not a very serious problem. Whift. I've got to give it up to Steve again.
Starting point is 01:12:29 I've got to give it up one more time. The man takes big swings. You really expected him to come in and be like, Alex, this is horrible. We've got to root everyone out. Hey, try to have a coup. What are you going to do? I think he's called for coups so many times now. He probably doesn't think it's that big of a deal.
Starting point is 01:12:46 He calls for a coup every other week. Yeah. Yeah. He's called for Melania to kick Trump out of office. That's true. Hey, no big deal. Listen, I've got some succeeded coups. I've had some failed coups.
Starting point is 01:13:01 It's not that big a deal. So Steve, what he believes is that the problem that we see here is that our military, it's just, it's not going to work. It just doesn't work. It just doesn't work. Military. It doesn't work. Oh, damn it.
Starting point is 01:13:17 What's happened is our military is not viable. We got 2.2 million men in uniform. There's no value to it. Trump understands that Trump took us out of Syria. He took us out of Iraq, Afghanistan. Why did he do that? For number one, he is very smart. He knows we do not win wars.
Starting point is 01:13:37 They're not affected. We do not make money. And the bottom line is that we have a far more serious problem in terms of the economy and in terms of getting our growth back in. I was about to say, for people that were actually there, they said Woodward and others are lying. So now Woodward is lying about Mattis' attempted coup. Oh my God. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:00 This is confusing. This is unfortunate. Yeah. This is what happens when the truth is just so obvious that it's like they can't admit that they were stupid for any reason or that Trump is an idiot. Yeah. And then talking to Woodward is fucking stupid. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:18 He shouldn't have done that. He's incredibly stupid. Yeah. And so it has to be even more outlandish. All right. Right. We can only accelerate. That's what I'm saying with Woodward.
Starting point is 01:14:27 We can only accelerate from here. What he did is meaningless now. He destroyed the meaning of his own work. But I'm not disagreeing with you. I know. I know. I'm sorry. I'm just angry about it.
Starting point is 01:14:41 I understand. You have every right to be. I'm not disagreeing with you. But I would also say that maybe he wouldn't know that, you know? That's possible. Maybe in a more sensible time, this would have been a bomb shell that would have, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:15:01 That's possible. I mean, he probably thought it only took him forever to take down Nixon, too. I don't know. Fuck him. Yeah. I have no sympathy. Fair enough. So Steve has to wrestle with this, this question that is, if this guy that we love is so smart,
Starting point is 01:15:18 why would he do something so stupid? That's a good question. As to talk to Woodward. That's a great question. Now, granted, we're not going to talk about what he said. Uh-oh. But Steve is asking questions that really answer themselves. Okay.
Starting point is 01:15:32 Why would Trump allow Bob Woodward to have 18 interviews with him when Trump knew very well from Woodward's history that he's going to get a hit piece. It's going to be a disaster about him. And there's no upside, yet he spent a whole hours in the beginning at the White House and then every night for 18 nights he would call Woodward. Now why would a man who's so smart do that? Yeah, ask yourself that. Do you know what it is exactly?
Starting point is 01:16:06 Narcissism? It's when a serial killer will go talk to the cops while they're investigating the crime he committed. That's 100% what it is. It is narcissism. Some derivation of that. Look at how I can get away with everything. It's totally that.
Starting point is 01:16:20 I mean, it's, you know, granted, we're making an assumption, but boy, does it feel like that. It sure looks exactly like that. Yeah. Yeah. So apparently, Steve, I mean, I should have known this, apparently him and Bob Woodward go way back. Of course.
Starting point is 01:16:37 I haven't to know Woodward. I thought he was a phony to begin with. He and I started at a newspaper called the Montgomery County Sentinel. He never had any journalism behind him. He's a CIA operative. I've known all about him for years. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, what did he just say? He started it.
Starting point is 01:16:56 He started together at the what Montgomery Journal Sentinel. Wait, wait, Steve Pachinic works for the Montgomery Journal Sentinel. What? What just happened here? Steve's done everything. What just happened here? Steve's done everything. Who cares?
Starting point is 01:17:11 So in this next clip, I knew a young Martin Luther King Jr. as he was growing up in Alabama. Sure. Yeah. He was deep throat. Yeah, he was. So now Steve gets to answering the question of like, if Trump is so smart, why would he do this? Because he's not.
Starting point is 01:17:29 Well, I would say that Steve's describing a real asshole here and someone who I definitely don't want to be president. So why did Trump do it so he'd know what his enemies were up to? That's one thing, but Trump, like yourself and possibly like me, we like the game. The game to us is far more important than anything anyone else can see. Now what do I mean? Good question. Look how many books came out now about him negatively.
Starting point is 01:17:58 Mary Trump says that he is a terrible man. His sister says he's worse than terrible. Michael Cohn, his Jewish corrupt lawyer says he's a terrible man and then you have other books coming out says that he's a disaster, John Bolton. Why does he do that? One word only. It's called Trump. You can knock it.
Starting point is 01:18:21 You can praise it. He doesn't give a damn either way as long as you use the word T R U M P and every one of these people who goes negatively against them, including the stupid publishers are doing nothing more than to help Trump self-aggrandize because he understood something a long time ago that you and I understood. That's really, really bad for a leader to think that way because think about it. If you just allow that sort of reasoning to go to its logical extent, how much bad press would he get from nuking somebody?
Starting point is 01:19:01 Like how much bad press would he get from doing terrible things? Probably a ton. Who cares if it's bad press? They're talking about me. That is a really, really like cancerous mentality for someone with actual power to have. Alex, do you know why he's doing this? Because he's a narcissistic psychopath, Alex. Right.
Starting point is 01:19:21 Come on. It's something that you and I understand. That's what we want to do. It's all about the game. It's not about the hundreds of thousands of people that are dead. Yeah. He personally killed. We understand this because that's how we make money.
Starting point is 01:19:32 It's the game. It's the game. Look, you're in the game. It's like Omar. All right, man? It's like Omar. It's like P.T. Barnum said, just get my name right and Trump understands that that gives him the name recognition and then there's also so much disinfo that none of it matters.
Starting point is 01:19:49 And the more he survives disinfo, the more he almost becomes invincible to anything they might have. It's real. You got it. And that's true of Alex Jones. You guys accidentally kind of got it right if you just remove this. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:06 I mean, that also kind of is an admission that there is a lot of real stuff. Totally. That he's getting away with because of these 100% fake things. That's not good. Yeah. That's that's unfortunately kind of stunningly insightful and yet at the same time wrong. I don't know why Trump or Alex would want Trump to be invincible. I don't think I know you want your elected leaders to have and face no consequences for
Starting point is 01:20:36 their actions. Even when there's real things that are doing that are really bad. That's what you want. Cool. I will say a lot of this episode has to do with Alex saying that the Chinese government is hacking his websites and I don't care. So I don't care if he was actually having some kind of a DDoS attack or something. It's possible that but I don't believe it was the Chinese government or anything.
Starting point is 01:20:59 So he spends a lot of time on it. Of course. And I just didn't. It was actually a scalar attack. Could have been Steve. Who knows? Roger was on and he was saying that he wants a fair election and the only possible fair election result is Trump winning.
Starting point is 01:21:13 Yes. Now Steve, his position is more. I don't want a fair election and I want Trump to take over crimes in order to make sure that happens. All right. Let me put this again. I've said it a couple of years ago on your show that the Clintons would never come back and I said that there was a coup at the time.
Starting point is 01:21:34 Let me put it again. If there's any attempt by the Democrats to come in legally or illegally, I can assure you and your audience that's not going to happen. I'm not going to pronounce what I have to say because I'll have the FBI right at my door as I had last time when I criticized Obama. But the bottom line is that there are many ways to make sure that the Democrats don't come to power. The legal way and there are other ways.
Starting point is 01:22:04 Trump understands pretty much what has to be done. Jesus. That is like. I mean, okay, I guess that's fascism for you. I mean, you're openly talking on this radio supposedly news program. I think we should overthrow the country if I don't get what I want. Right. Roger Stone is creating a scenario wherein only Trump winning is a fair election.
Starting point is 01:22:33 Nothing else is by definition not fair and a fraudulent election. And you're saying that we have illegal means that we're going to use to make sure the Democrats can't ever come into power. Yeah. All right, guys. Can you please just stop fucking pretending? Just say you're fascist that you want to make Trump king. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:52 Fuck off. Just cut it out. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Stop trying to. And you're not even dancing around it at all. No. And it becomes so overt when Steve is on.
Starting point is 01:23:01 Yeah. He's just a straight up fascist. Fuck due process. Exactly. I don't give a shit. I don't want. I don't even want a fair election. It's Trump loses isn't it?
Starting point is 01:23:10 This country, America is not about freedom. It's about business. Geez. We are a business. Like, okay. All right. Yeah. Alex, you should hate this guy.
Starting point is 01:23:19 Yep. So I think the coronavirus COVID-19 and the challenges that we've all been faced with have have taught us some lessons, I think. Some of us. Well, I think I have learned a lot about the different struggles that people go through. The various things that you don't consider because maybe it's not exactly your experience of the world that other people have. Like people who are immunocompromised or have other conditions that make put them at higher
Starting point is 01:23:48 risk. The fear and the danger that interactions that you might be comfortable with totally to them is a completely different dates. I expand my horizon and my awareness a little in ways that I definitely wish I was more aware of before, but I'm glad I know now. Yeah. Secondly, it's also made me more aware of how much opportunity there is to help people. You know, there's a lot of things that you can do even if you feel like there's nothing
Starting point is 01:24:14 you can do. Totally. And I appreciate those things. A great deal. It's also taught me that maybe my lifestyle prior to it was a little bit isolated and confining. And maybe once things open up a little more, I should make a greater effort to not live as if I was in quarantine.
Starting point is 01:24:32 Sure. Sure. There's not a virus. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There is that. So there's some lessons.
Starting point is 01:24:40 Yes. Yeah. And I would say that Steve has a different lesson. The reality is coronavirus hit on a very interesting dynamic. And that was do we need cities? And do we need cities that were really in effect? Well, obviously the cities are obsolete and corrupt and a big problem. Fuck cities.
Starting point is 01:25:01 I don't know what organizational system he's he's advocating for. Utilism. I don't know. I don't even know. A castle is still kind of a city. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what kind of functional organizational structure he's looking for.
Starting point is 01:25:14 I sure as fuck don't want to find out. Nope. It's fucking. It's going to be something weird. It's not going to be good for me personally. No. You and I and everyone we've ever met will be fucked. Fucked.
Starting point is 01:25:27 Thoroughly. Yeah. Oh boy. So Alex wants to talk to Steve about something really important because this is September 10th and the next day is 9-11 and in the time we have left him a little bit of 9-11 Dr. Pachennick. He's welcome back tomorrow. We want you to get into 9-11.
Starting point is 01:25:43 It's important to talk about what happened there and what went on now that we've moved on past that group. I don't talk about it a lot because I don't want to moralize people, but we've covered it at nauseam. It's important to remember what happened so it doesn't happen again and to know that Trump called in the day after it happened and said, you know, they had bombs in the buildings. They blew it up.
Starting point is 01:25:58 I mean, he can see what happens. He's a good guy at the end of the day. We're blessed to have him. He deserves to know about a peace prize that would bring credit back to that prize that's become a joke. Wow. That went some directions. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:08 I mean, when Obama got the peace prize, it became a joke. That's Alex's point. Yeah. Yeah. I would say that we've dealt with the group that did, like, I thought it was the globalist. I thought everything was the globalist. No, no, no, no. We got the group.
Starting point is 01:26:26 All right. Fine. Let's not explore that at all. Alex. Do not worry about those pages that were redacted. Don't worry about that. They do run out of time to talk about 9-11. Oh, do they?
Starting point is 01:26:38 Yes. It seemed like Alex was very specifically avoiding the fact that he still thinks Bush did it. I don't. He does. He not still think Bush did it. I don't know what he thinks. Quite honestly.
Starting point is 01:26:48 That's fair. I have no idea. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they run out of time and they decide that they'll reconvene tomorrow on 9-11 to talk about 9-11. Yeah. Are they going to talk about what Trump said about how tall his building was? No, probably not.
Starting point is 01:27:02 I don't think they will. No. This made me laugh. This was pretty funny because Alex, much like at the beginning of Steve's interview and they're trying to talk about Mattis and this coup, Steve's like, fuck a coup, gives a shit. No big deal. Alex is really making a meal out of how scary China is and how, oh no, China.
Starting point is 01:27:22 Let me put the China issue in context. Number one, we've confronted China in the South China Sea. I wrote about that years ago. Sure. You said it was coming in your book. Right. It impacts specifically. I'm not worried about China right now because China has a bigger problem in the United States
Starting point is 01:27:38 and that is Trump's personal friend, Modi of India. Because Modi of India will not tolerate Xi's incursions into the Himalayas. That's right. We put them in check with Modi. Absolutely. I agree economically. You guys installed Modi? What about the left's hatred of themselves in the country?
Starting point is 01:27:57 That's what I'm saying. I've got to move along to that. I've got to pivot over to another conversation because Steve just kind of deflated all of your fears about China. A little bit. Apparently they're in checkmate because of Modi. See, here's the trick. China's not worried about our fascist dictator.
Starting point is 01:28:13 They're worried about India's fascist dictator. Done. Yeah. So now Steve has defused Alex's talking point about Mattis running a coup. Now he's also defused Alex's, I mean, China's the most terrifying thing in the world thing. I mean, that's Alex's almost entire reason to exist now. You don't even need to worry about it. No, because Modi.
Starting point is 01:28:33 Ah, man. Great. Pachanic. Pachanic is a great one-off interview. You know, everything that he says is reset at the. He's like the sitcom where at the end of the sitcom, we always get back to the where we started. He's the balloon popper.
Starting point is 01:28:46 Like Alex just brings him in. He's like, fuck your balloons. Fuck your balloons. I don't give a shit. You spend a while playing that thing and then he leaves and Alex is just back to normal. Yeah. It is. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:02 You are right about the sitcom thing. Yeah. But he just, he just wrecks shop. Yeah. Every episode, the, the CLAB explodes at the end and then the next one, you're just like, everything's fine. Yeah. Just move on.
Starting point is 01:29:14 And this last clip is another example of it. Alex keeps talking about how they're going to like, you know, try and keep Trump out of office and they're going to have all these machinations. He's like, what do we do, Steve? In the few minutes we have left, what do you predict their due sex or their ace in the hole could be? A false flag? I mean, I don't want to be overconfident.
Starting point is 01:29:31 What could this corrupt establishment do to make sure Trump doesn't get in? They're not going to do anything. What's their due sex going to be? Is it going to have a false flag? What are they going to do? Going to set off a new bloke power plant for our Antifa and everybody. They're not going to do shit. Balloon popped.
Starting point is 01:30:02 Yeah. That's very good. So, I mean, as we come to the end of this, this, this stretch of time, like, I mean, we see this continuing of Alex, I'm not going to take the bait, but Alex is talking about his financial troubles. Sure. That's consistent. The aggressive ad pitches.
Starting point is 01:30:19 Totally. Certainly. Last for us even. Yeah. Certainly getting more and more of those and more entertaining versions. I appreciate it. Turns out Stone doesn't like Bob Woodward. What a shock.
Starting point is 01:30:29 And for some reason he just doesn't like him. He thinks he's a liar. No real talk about some of the issues that are the most important to a lot of people like the fires and the West Coast. Right. No real conversation about the tapes that Woodward released. They're all lies. You don't even need to talk about them, Dan.
Starting point is 01:30:47 Definitely don't plan. Right. So Alex then builds up his whole thing of his version of the Woodward story based on a zero hedge article. Has Roger Stone come in and just say Woodward's an asshole. And then Steve deflates all of his narratives. Yeah. It's just weird.
Starting point is 01:31:04 It's very weird. You know what? It's stuck in my crop, but it's Deus Ex. I know. Not Deus Ex. I know. It's just, you know, Deus Ex. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:15 Anyways. It's frustrating. Where were you? I mean, we were texting earlier when I was telling you, like, we might have to record a little bit late because I got to get the, you know, as current of an episode as possible. I want to see what the Woodward fallout is. And your text was, it's going to be disappointing. And I was like, yeah, probably.
Starting point is 01:31:30 Yep. And it is. It is a little disappointing, except for the fact that, you know, we got this Woodward story. I'm calling in Roger and Steve. It's like, all right. I do. That's good.
Starting point is 01:31:41 I do. I do. I do. He's the carry-cassity of this show. When he's grumpy or when he's just like, I'll fuck yourself. Yeah. Then he's great. If you're a little sleepy or just not trying, then it's just, it's so boring.
Starting point is 01:31:54 Yeah. And the, the, the inserted unnecessary racism is always an issue. Holy shit. Why? Do you got it? Everybody who's Jewish. Jesus, man. This is, that's just too much.
Starting point is 01:32:06 That's just too much. Yeah. Calm it down. I feel like. Even for us on info wars. I feel like we probably should have maybe discussed that. But the reason that I don't generally is because we talk about it a bit. Every time.
Starting point is 01:32:19 All the time. Every time he's on, it's a casual. Yeah. But I'm glad that you called it out. It's a tick. It's like, it can't stop himself from being the most racist person that you can think of. Quite.
Starting point is 01:32:30 It's awful. So to get this taste out of our mouth, let's take some calls. That sounds great. Hey Dan. Hey Jordan. This is policy monk Charlotte from Washington DC. And I wanted to float an idea past you guys. I have a theory that this could prove to add just a little bit more lighter fluid to the
Starting point is 01:32:47 fire, fire that is 2020. But do we know anybody in Joe Biden's camp so that we can add a pillar to his platform, which would argue that as president, he will force Twitter and Facebook to reinstate Alex Jones. Something to think about. Anyway, thanks boys. Really appreciate podcast. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:10 I'll take care. I think that's a great idea. That's a heel turn. Yeah. Well, I would love. Yeah. That's because here's why. Why?
Starting point is 01:33:18 Presidents don't have to follow through on their promises. That's 100% true. So in fact, I would argue most of them never do. So Biden could fleece Alex by insisting that he was going to get him back on Twitter. Totally. To see if that would make Alex work. Would it work? I wonder.
Starting point is 01:33:32 That would be a good question. Yeah. I could see. I could see him softening a little bit. You think so? Alex maybe. All right. We'll see.
Starting point is 01:33:40 That's what you do to broaden up your base. Yeah. I know you invite Alex back on Twitter. You don't need to follow through with it. No. You don't even have to have any intention of doing it. Just say that it's a big part of your plan. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:50 Yeah. Hi, Dan and Jordan. This is Matt in Washington. I just wanted to call to say you've helped me process losing my parents to Trump, and it means a lot to me. I'm also sure I'm not the only listener with this issue, so shout out to everybody going through this. My parents used to be one of a male conservative Christians, but 2016 opened them to the wide
Starting point is 01:34:09 world of conspiracy theory, which completely pushed me away from them. I found your show through Robert Evans, and both his shows and yours have helped me to understand what the hell my parents are caught up in. At first I thought I could use your show to help them somehow, but I now appreciate that not many people let their kids change their minds. The work you do is so, so important, though, and I hope we see more shows like yours in the future that deconstruct conspiracy narratives, so thank you guys so much. You are both awesome and your ice cubes are very juicy.
Starting point is 01:34:41 Bye. I'm uncomfortable with how positive that call is and how complimentary it is, but I wanted to play it because there's a lot of people who are probably in similar situations and ... Fuck, I am. Yeah. I wanted to extend our thoughts. Condolences, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:59 Yeah, and people who are listening who might be able to empathize with what the caller was saying. We can all absolutely commiserate with ... Yeah. You're not alone out there. You're not alone out there, people. Next. Hi.
Starting point is 01:35:16 I wanted to say that I love the show. Also, I just wanted to take a moment to say hello to Celine. I hope that she's having a good time. Thanks. This is Gabby, by the way. Hey, Gabby. Not enough people giving Celine a shout out. It was nice to hear that she was thinking of Celine.
Starting point is 01:35:37 That's great. Now there's as good a time as any for a Celine update. Oh, that's a good idea. I have murdered my cat. You murdered her? No, I didn't. But something nice. That'd be a weird way to ...
Starting point is 01:35:46 Yeah. I've murdered her with love. What's your bright spot today? Well, have I got a doozy for you? No, I'm just a little bit ... As I've gotten more into this home gardening thing, it's tough to balance ... Do you think you've been neglecting her a little bit? No.
Starting point is 01:36:06 I've been paying her a good amount of attention, but it's hard to balance having a cat in the home and also pots of plants around. You have to find a way to make sure that ... Because if you look over there, my greens stamped all over them. Yeah. I see that now. Basically, what I've had to do is I've had to try and find a way to ... Most of the plants are here in the office, and so basically, I just can't have her in the office when I'm
Starting point is 01:36:30 not in here. Yeah. And it's not a perfect system because obviously, if I'm not paying attention, she can still get up there and she ate two of my plants. Of course. A couple of times, I've just gone to the bathroom and I've come back and she's knocked over a pot from the side and then just is looking at me like, what? She's a cat.
Starting point is 01:36:50 She's doing cat shit. Yeah, I know. It's not her fault. I know she's not being malicious, but like ... No, she is. That's cat shit. Cats are malicious. It's tough to balance, but from what I can tell, she's having fun doing it.
Starting point is 01:37:02 In terms of Gabby's question, she's doing good and having fun. Yes, once again. Cats have fun by torturing you. No. Hey, guys. This is Scott in Austin, Texas, and I heard your broadcast the other day about Alex Jones and his protest at Barton Springs where he claimed he had 200 people protesting. I actually work in Barton Springs and got down to see the protest about an hour or so
Starting point is 01:37:31 after it started, did not see 200 of his followers, maybe 40 or 50. There were about 200 people at the springs, but they were already there of their own volition, but of course, he likes to claim false numbers and also happy ending some citizen called the cops on them because they were harassing people with megaphones. And shortly after that, he got really quiet. Love the show. Keep up the good work. This is fake news.
Starting point is 01:38:11 Fake news. I had nothing but a great time at Barton Springs. We had a food truck. Everything was great. Dan's right. All right. Well, I appreciate the first-hand report there from Barton Springs. Of course, he added other people who are just hanging out into the totals.
Starting point is 01:38:35 Yeah. Also, I'm sure that it was a globalist who said that Alex was harassing because you can't harass somebody with a little baby bullhorn. You cannot. It's against the reality. Is it not possible? Also, I have been trying to use tyranny slapper to annoy Celine and it has not been working. She is unphased by the baby bullhorn.
Starting point is 01:38:55 Of course she is. Yeah, no, well, even she finds it hilarious. Hey, guys. Globalist Amy here. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. Oh, no. Seeing a new episode drop is often one of my bright spots of the day, so I really appreciate
Starting point is 01:39:09 and thank you so much for keeping me laughing and all the fun during these super, super shit times. I also really wanted to add my voice to the Australian contingent and say it's pronounced quokka. But what I really wanted to ask is I'm getting my cat Pluto, a new kitty friend. We're adopting a new cat and I would really love your suggestions on what their name should be. Thank you so much again.
Starting point is 01:39:41 Stay safe and again, quokka. Thanks guys. Bye. I'm at war with Australia. Quokka. It's just over for us. We just lost. We've just lost.
Starting point is 01:39:54 Also, I'd like to take this opportunity to apologize because on our last episode I believe I referred to Australia as an island and I don't think that they're going. Technically. If we're getting this kind of blowback for quokka, I don't think anyone's going to take kindly to that. So before we get a flood of Australian calls, I apologize. It's like Pluto. Australia has been downgraded from continent to island.
Starting point is 01:40:20 I am wholehearted in my apology. I don't know. That's fun. Cat name. I mean, obviously Duncan, Idaho, my friend. Dunes coming. You got the dunes around the corner. All right.
Starting point is 01:40:34 Duncan, Idaho. Duncan, Idaho. I would say Daryl Rundis. Daryl Rundis is a good one, too. It's not a good cat name. It's not a good cat name, but you can live with it. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:40:46 I was trying to think of like funny info wars names and Daryl Rundis. Daryl Rundis going to stick with. I can see Leo Katgami. Leo Katgami. Leo Katgami. No, that doesn't work. No, that's not. Yeah, but you could just call it Leo.
Starting point is 01:41:03 True. Yeah. True. Who else? Oh, just go with feline Contessa or that's not a name. Contessa cat. Tessa. I don't know why I'm doing portmanteaus with that in the name.
Starting point is 01:41:17 You're not going to name your cat cat something. No. Rob meow. That doesn't work. No, that's a bad pun. If I got another cat, I might not be you might name it Buckley. That's a that's actually a pretty good cat name. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:34 Buckley is a pretty fun name. Buckley is a fun name. Good Buckley. I don't like a bad Buckley. I don't know. I don't know if I have any good ideas, but I wish you the best in your new pet friend adventure. Indeed.
Starting point is 01:41:46 And the naming thereof. Hey, is this the cat guys? I'm Jordan, huge fan. Uli down here in Springfield, Missouri. Just wanted to say thank you so much for calling out Springfield. I'm a transplant. There are good people even in these weird bastions of conservative ethics, we could call it.
Starting point is 01:42:06 Anyway, I just wanted to say thanks for the show that you do. I have lagged severely on my own podcast because I'm too busy catching all of your episodes. And if you ever come down to Springfield, Missouri, you know, you got a place to have some beers at our brewery, four by four brewing, and we'll catch you later. Thanks for that guys. You're awesome. Shout out to these shit on cities in the places that people look down on. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:32 Shout out and shout out to four by four brewing. Totally. They're not sponsored, but give them a give them a look. It's a wonk brewery. Yeah. I'm definitely going to a wonk brewery if I'm in Springfield. When are you ever going to be in Springfield? You never know.
Starting point is 01:42:45 I was in Springfield. Maybe we'll have to escape from cities because they're obsolete now. Well, Springfield's still a city. Not a Chicago city. Township. Right. Come on now. I was in Springfield maybe five years ago.
Starting point is 01:42:58 Yeah. I think probably. How was it? It was fun. With friends Dan Sheehan and Tyler Snodgrass. Oh yeah. Great guys. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:09 I went down to, I don't remember the name of the place. Oh man. Yakov Smirnoff showed up. Yakov showed up? Yeah. Yakov. You got a little Yakov? He and Tyler Snodgrass are friends, and so Yakov Smirnoff showed up, and I did not
Starting point is 01:43:21 say hi to him. Oh, come on. I just, he was being, I think I told this. In our country, we say hi to you, Dan. I told this story before, I think, but he was being like bumrushed by tons of people who were like wanting an autograph and stuff, and I just felt like it would be shitty. But I gave him a look from across the room. I think he got it.
Starting point is 01:43:40 A little pregnant, hello look. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, Tech. I just have so much stuff I got to get to that I don't know if I can cover it all on the phone call, so I'm not going to get to any of it. I did want to say, Jordan, that you had mentioned recording an audio book for your book, The Quiet Part Loud, and I was going to say I really appreciate the audio format.
Starting point is 01:44:09 Thank you. People appreciate the audio format. I'm working on it. I'm working on it. It's a process. It is, it is tough. It's very hard. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:18 It's very hard. There are a lot of choices that I didn't realize that I was going to have to make because of the way I write dialogue and how it's impossible to kind of keep track of. Yep. It's hard. It is hard. It's very hard. But I'm working on it.
Starting point is 01:44:30 It's happening. It will happen. That's good. It will. I promise you. That's good for the people to know. Yeah. And for now, they can find your book at quietpartloud.com.
Starting point is 01:44:38 Indeed. So doing that nice little plug in there. Thank you. Hi, Dan and Jordan. This is Bob Hartle from St. Louis. I sent you some posters a couple months ago. First off, I want to say do not accidentally dial 1-800-4-TAT-GUYS. That is not the right number.
Starting point is 01:44:55 And number two, Dan, you mentioned your brother and the art he does and how proud you are of him. And that reminded me that my brother, who was always the engineer when we were kids, has gone on to make a political strip called Middle Age Riot. It's on Instagram and Facebook. And I think you would really enjoy it. I'm really proud of him, the work he's done on that. I also wanted to thank you for the shout out earlier in the summer.
Starting point is 01:45:21 It's been a rough summer and that really helped make it. Keep up the good work. Talk to you later. Thank you, Bob. Thanks, Bob. If you notice, I look around and got a couple of the prints up on the wall here in the studio. Pretty cool. Very good.
Starting point is 01:45:38 I went and checked out this Middle Age Riot, some fun jokes there. I didn't have time to look through a whole ton of it. But yeah, it looks really awesome. Everybody's getting free rides today. It does seem like we're not sponsored, but it seems like we're doing a lot of sponsored content. I don't actually mind that so much. The idea that people call in and say some cool project or something that maybe people
Starting point is 01:46:06 could take a look at. If you call in and say that you're really happy with your bank and you really love Chase Bank, then you're not going to get on the show. Probably not. Not going to happen. I mean, eventually we will have to figure out a line in terms of that, but I think we're on the right side of it for now. So far, yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:21 Well, thank you all for the calls. Thank you all for listening. We will be back next time. Indeed. Yep. But until then, Jordan, we have a website. We do have a website. It's KnowledgeFight.com.
Starting point is 01:46:35 Yep. We're also on Twitter. KnowledgeFight.com. We're on Facebook. We are on Facebook. If you could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area and help out people doing God's work. Yep.
Starting point is 01:46:48 We'll be back. But until then, I'm Leo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX, Clark. I'm Darrell Rundis. I am a guy jumping out of a helicopter at Lake Travis. Andy and Chanzis. You're on the air.
Starting point is 01:47:00 Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.

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