Knowledge Fight - #483: September 17, 2020

Episode Date: September 18, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan poke their noses around the Alex Jones Show to see what's going on. In this installment, Alex takes calls from his listeners on what they should think about Trump supporting a va...ccine, and Roger Stone seems to have grown out of supporting Alex's theories.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge and your knowledge fight need money andy and tanzas andy and tanzas andy and tanzas andy it's time to pray andy and tanzas you're on the here thanks for holding hey everybody welcome back knowledge friend i'm dan i'm jordan we're gonna bloods like sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about alex jones indeed we are dan just because i go staccato doesn't mean you have to jordan i'm trying to play off of your energy sometimes uh the dissonant energies are better than complimentary ones all right i mean i've heard that before from uh minor keys in the
Starting point is 00:01:21 like our whole podcast is me being mellow and you yelling you shouldn't you shouldn't go staccato when i go staccato you should go staccato in different uh percentage dynamic range is important this is what happens when you've been talking for an hour already before the show you're already annoyed with me yeah fucking pissed off get out of my house all right i'm sorry i'm sorry podcast you're you're promising more than usual conversation i get it dan jordan what's your bright spot this week well i it's uh something that has to do with plant watching not to overburden the audience with talk of my plants but i mean it's just really we've mentioned the cucumber plants a bit sure and the in the past one of the things is that
Starting point is 00:02:06 they're the ones that are really they've come along the most and there's the most life and flowering in them um but my bright spot is just a real recognition that like i did successfully pollinate one of those plants one of the at least i don't know i don't know how good my bedding average is sure but at least one of those cucumbers is definitely pollinate okay it is definitely growing okay and hopefully fingers crossed because it's still not done yet still got a ways to go anytime now it could lead to an actual cucumber that i could turn into an actual pickle that would be very exciting very exciting are you going to try and eat it as a cucumber first or are you just going to go straight to pickle can i tell you something i don't like
Starting point is 00:02:48 cucumbers i think we've had this conversation i might i might have more of an affinity for them if i grew them myself possible i've never been a big fan of cucumbers you've never had a nice cucumber salad maybe even just cucumber water you like cucumber water i don't like cucumber seltzers for sure and that seltzer is a different story cucumber water cucumber water without bubbles might be better than width but no i don't love it i don't cucumber on a salad sometimes fine but it's not like it's not a highlight but i do love pickles sure so i'm going to bring this dissonant energy to you i like cucumbers hate pickles hate pickles despise pickles you're not going to like my future pickle gifts i am not going to like your future pickle again i'm sure
Starting point is 00:03:32 my partner will appreciate them immensely and your absolute need as an employee of dan industries i will need you to help me fine tune my pickle recipe sure so there will be is there is there going to be vats i assume that anything that we do is going to require vats if you don't like pickles that's really going to put a crimp in your ability to tell me if it's a bad pickle or not it's gonna be it's going to perhaps ender it entirely i might need another contractor i might need another another employee could be pickle taster yeah i think that's a good idea so anyway that's my like an old king yeah i have a pickle taster in case somebody is poisoning me yeah how about you uh my bright spot is from the mailbag z you don't get to zip
Starting point is 00:04:18 i'm worried you've ruined the zip bit i think you just fixed it i i got my knife yeah i got my knife dan it is an incredibly beautiful and scary device policy from chris policy wonk and he sent this lovely note it's uh hey jordan this knife goes to you uh thank you for your infectious laugh and screaming at the same times i do our paths don't sound too far off and it's great to see there is a chance to get past what your family did hope you enjoy keep fighting with good fight you two are now are needed now more than ever policy wonk chris and this is from folk vangars forge yeah you you can find uh some of his work uh from the forge on etsy indeed and a lot of it looks really cool it's very cool yeah uh i like the idea of uh fight the good fight here
Starting point is 00:05:09 is a knife granted it's a kitchen knife not a fighting knife but uh yeah that's so cool really appreciate that could become it more than other kitchen knives yeah this could be a fighting knife and now that you're saying that i i remember that uh chris had sent me a message on facebook but it's on like my personal facebook i never see those messages and i owe them a response along with about a ton of other people sure i apologize you and me both oh my god yeah correspondence is the worst thing in the world for me not the worst thing in the world but it's my worst skill it's something that i need to get better at it it's it's just one of those things where i get a message while i'm in the middle of working yeah and i look and i'm like okay
Starting point is 00:05:48 i'm gonna get back to you but i gotta get back to work and then it's and then i remember yep that i got the message so i just assumed that i've already responded to it would probably be better if i didn't keep my email open all the time probably things and i'm like i gotta get back to this later totally and then i just forget as opposed to like setting aside a time to open the yes of course and then like oh here's what i need i think i think we might need a new employee of dan industries yeah yeah or a new strategy could be anyway jordan today we're gonna be talking about an episode uh of the alex jones show from september 17th 2020 i'm dan this is 2020 god damn it uh present day talking about thursday's episode some stuff happens there are some guests indeed
Starting point is 00:06:29 some fun is had by all all right um but before we get into that we gotta take a moment to say thank you some folks who signed up on our supporting the show that's a great idea yeah so first jamie k thank you so much you are now policy wonk i'm a policy wonk thank you jamie thank you next Bill F thank you so much you're now policy walk i'm a policy wonk thanks bill thank you billy next no less name Trent thank you so much you're now policy want i'm a policy wonk thank you very much Trent's thanks don't need a last name everybody knows who they're strictly strong everybody's got a trend yeah the T and T the beginning great name strong name yeah uh next brandon w thank you so much you're now policy walking i'm a policy walking thank you very much
Starting point is 00:07:07 brandon thank you next clloe m thank you so much you're now policy wonk i'm a policy wonk thank you very much clloe thank you next person number 42 thank you so much you're now policy wonk i'm a policy onek thank you very much thank you number 42 next the answer to the question of what I'm sure yeah next thank you so much you are now a technocrat you are now a policy wonk i'm a policy wonk i think people are trying to trip me up that's a that's a trick yeah that's a trick sir thank you so much trying to get a longer drop out of this and finally uh thank you so much to gen the librarian you are now a technocrat i'm a policy wonk crikey mate that's fantastic have yourself a brew how's your 401k doing bro all right we gotta go full tilt buggy on this
Starting point is 00:07:49 Watson all right let's just get down to business we ain't making that money off that heroin why are you pimp so good my neck is freakishly large i declare info war on you thank you so much gen the librarian thank you very much gen the library librarians are very important in these these times and we need to do a better job of saluting our librarians that sounds like a great bounty hunter name in the apocalypse gen the librarian it's kind of got that tiny but for a big guy kind of feel to it you know you think a librarian's real like cool and calm but then she comes at you boba fat gen gen the library right yeah i like it um so uh jordan uh i know that you tried to emulate one of my signature sounds a minute ago and i don't appreciate it i apologize do you
Starting point is 00:08:36 want to call me a dick through your your little no no no you don't want to use your soundboard no because i think you want me to i don't want to i don't want to give you what you want you are so defiant but i think the only way that we can write this wrong is if i look in the mail by xiep damn it you're so fast yep um i am currently wearing a shirt indeed that we got in the mail from sonia from sweden if we got two different shirts yeah they are both very very cool yeah got a lot of naked people dancing around what appears to be a pole of some sort yeah we got this is very much something i can't wear in public yeah we got uh i think they're one mess of my shirt we we i think we figured it out at large is our mind mediums are yours that i think people
Starting point is 00:09:22 understand i think i think there was that but also uh they there were two different messages on our shirts uh one said uh fuck you you run to the environment or whatever it was and the other one said uh save the environment or something along those the two sides of the knowledge fight coin and i'm just gonna go out on a limb and say the the negative one was probably for me i think that that and the size differences are probably definitive proof yeah i would say so oh and then thank you very much sonia yeah thank you sonia uh then also with the mail bag z the secondary compartment in the in the mail bag yes got a box of notebooks with notes from the show that uh thank mr princess for sending in yes appreciate that very much i got a lot of notes
Starting point is 00:10:06 about past episodes it'll help me remember which fucking episode was which indeed because i've got to say i mean we've done a lot of episodes and i don't remember most of them uh i'm gonna go out on a limb and say uh i don't even know that we're doing a show if you asked me what did we talk about an episode 205 i don't know what your bright spot was i probably would forget it's only about cucumbers yeah so thank you mr princess we appreciate that um and now let us bow our heads are we doing that as we as we enter the episode all right um alex starts off the show and uh he he explains that he wants to take calls sure does not get to those calls until a bit into the episode which is normal yeah but what he wants to take calls on he's pretty clear on this episode
Starting point is 00:10:54 that he wants to talk about how trump is saying that there's a great vaccine that he's gonna put out sure trump's got a vaccine right he's gonna put it out this you would think would cause some friction right because he doesn't believe vaccines are good but trump is saying that this vaccine is good it's perfect yes so where where are we gonna fall well that's why alex needs to take calls because that's how we can wiggle around and like figure out exactly where we're gonna go let's get a feel of who these people are right right i gotcha i also intend to open the phones up today on one specific issue because i want to gauge what the listeners and viewers think and we'll play the clip of trump here in just a moment he has come out and said we're gonna
Starting point is 00:11:37 have a very powerful very effective vaccine that's gonna work perfectly well that's not true yeah no shit can they get a vaccine out very very quickly absolutely have the chinese already rolled one out have the russians already rolled one out have the indians already rolled one out have the south africans already rolled one out have they already approved all these absolutely is putin putting sugar water in people absolutely to end the hysteria he knows this thing is a giant scam oh boy wait mm-hmm putin putting sugar water in people putin's injecting sugar water well i mean it's a metaphor it yeah it would yeah that's a metaphor though he's not but he does use the expression shooting
Starting point is 00:12:20 people up with sugar water later which would lead you to believe that he's actually talking about sugar water it sounds like that's also something that he would believe putin would do he's talking about this in the uh but his idea is that like there's these placebo's basically like watered down vaccines like a sugar pill yeah yeah i got they're using to end the hysteria because it's not that big a deal anyway so just give people the shot make them feel better sure sure fuck it yeah i have a serious question for you yeah do any of the callers correctly point out that bill gates already has the vaccine well according to alex he's had it for years yeah no and that's actually a real problem with this like because alex's uh his whole narrative about
Starting point is 00:13:04 this as it's going to evolve and this is basically the position that he's had is that uh like he's alex claims that he has white house sources that are saying that what trump's doing is that he's saying that he's got this vaccine that he's gonna put off so this is gonna cut off bill gates at the past right because bill gates has got his bad vaccine trump will have oh my god trump will have some kind of watered down one right so there's that yeah and then the secondary aspect of it is that trump saying that he's got this vaccine is forcing democrats to become anti-vax all right which is part of the long game also it's just wow that's this is all a bad long game yeah it's a bad short game it's the attempt to foil bill gates is evil plan by way of trump supporting it it's
Starting point is 00:13:52 wow i never considered that the way out of their anti-vax bullshit was to say that it's actually a placebo that trump is giving people basically an injection of nothing so that's how you are fine with getting the vaccine because you know unlike those stupid no no no no no no no these people are still not going to get it right well of course no of course not but but for a propaganda outlet of like what's a creative way to get around the fact that we have decided that all vaccines will kill you right no no no so this isn't a way to give more people to get vaccines this is a way to explain a way why trump might be in favor of a vaccine okay though your media ecosystem is supposed to be anti-vax oh my god yeah this is so tired this is making excuses for trump that's what this is
Starting point is 00:14:39 this is trump apologia okay so let's see if trump tries to sell it that way probably won't i think so but uh alex alex knows that this is what's going on he's got it from high level sources so i'm gonna get the number out at the bottom of the hour on call specifically what is your view what do you think i'll lay out next segment what's really going on and again i was led in on this by the white house and i've said to the my sources i mean is it okay if i say this they say yeah trump really wants the revelation of his method relayed to you but i'm not a puppet of the president i support him because i think he's a good guy and cares about the country and the globalistating but i do not agree with this so i'll just get that right out there right out
Starting point is 00:15:21 there out front so alex's position on this is really interesting because he's like this is black magic and i'm not into it so when he says that trump is endorsing this vaccine because that'll make the opponents of trump be anti-vaccine sure and then they'll end up not getting to this like microchip the bill gates wants to put in right it's the same thing that alex was selling back when trump was being like i don't care like red flag laws for guns yeah let's let me let's do this you know that was alex's way of rationalizing that was saying that trump was endorsing these things in order to bait the democrats into admitting that they wanted everybody's guns and then nothing would happen it's so it's like it's it this strategy is what
Starting point is 00:16:04 he's describing as black magic like using like oh yeah do what you want aha that's what you want yeah yeah yeah it's it is unfortunate that any intrusion of reality even by the god king is an invitation to retreat further away from reality you know like even you're fucking it's like an unimpeachable leader who's always right and perfect about everything is saying that we need a vaccine and even then you're like aha he's magic tricking you it's machiavellia yeah he's trying to trick you into attacking the spot that's the strongest that's just really sad well on a deep level it's uh mostly you know sad yes but it also makes alex think about the lord of the rings oh of course he's already pulled off miracles to get done when he's
Starting point is 00:16:53 done and that's why he's using shenanigans like when he's done endorsing the vaccines that i'll break down next segment to try to black magic's the word i'd use and i don't mean that in a literal sense but it's the same type system i'll scribe in the next segment literally the left again i would also use the ring more allegory in fact guys get the intro to the first lord of the rings where they describe that the very start when it comes over the credits then it shows the dark lord in the movie but that's an allegory of how satan's spiritual control operates now it gives power to those on the earth the powers the principalities of the air to to control them and tolkin
Starting point is 00:17:37 you know get wrote books about his christian allegories it is a christian allegory um is what it's all about and of course uh the original satan has been destroyed or casted another dimension but his top servant is saran and uh is seeking to destroy humanity uh and the other angels that have it basically gone along uh with his operation but that's again coming out next segment let's just continue hey uh guys did you ever notice that uh saran sounds a lot like soros uh did he read the silmarillion what is he talking about he knows that saran isn't the the original big bad guy well that's in the part where at the beginning of the the isn't it in the beginning of the the like right with the credits
Starting point is 00:18:33 as i wear enough as i recall the part that alex is talking about uh is like that like prequelish video stuff of the battle where the ring gets cut off the finger that was saran i know okay alex thinks it's not because saran's is the eye to him or whatever i think oh man i think that's what he's talking about yeah it's uh it is another thing that's interesting because i don't know if he's ever read uh it i i would be shocked if he read the silmarillion i'm a huge fan of lord of the rings and i made it through about three quarters of it and i was like what am i doing with my life so i would i would avoid it yeah everything goes back to a movie or just something yeah i apologize i shouldn't have assumed that books were involved with the lord of the
Starting point is 00:19:18 rings now not when alex isn't playing no kidding so alex talks a little bit about a recent comment by one attorney general william bar uh who alex is in a phase of liking okay so he's very into this ag william bar coronavirus lockdown greatest intrusion on civil liberty since slavery i mean i really like bar he's got a very deep state pedigree but man he just comes off as good and congenial and honest and really i just i have a good gut feeling about it when i see him speak and the things he says it all just makes sense to me yeah man it's great until he doesn't and then i'll bring up that his dad's connected to epstein you would think hey and then i'll talk about how he was involved in the wrong contra and like hey he was the attorney general for the guy who started
Starting point is 00:20:04 the new world order i hate him i hate him so much i hate him so much yeah it just doesn't matter william bars lies lie jesus so uh we got to putin in uh russia he's putting out a placebo and i guess alex thinks it's cool that that might kill that might kill some people now again see i feel like that means that his dictator is now lying to his entire country and injecting them with something that honestly you don't know what's in it it could be regardless of whether or not it is a placebo it could absolutely still kill somebody well alex generally is against that but he's not okay but by trump coming out like russia did he's really following russia's lead they always say he's following the russians in this case he is putin the word is it's sugar water but the public's
Starting point is 00:20:52 scared they bought into unheim so he knows it's a regular cold they've got ads running on russian tv you know take your vitamins that's what protects you and so putin comes out with oh we got a vaccine and it's a super watered down attenuated that has radiated fried covid 19 virus and so it's probably still not good for you you'll probably still have some deaths have some problems but they're putting on a watered down version because they're not targeting their population this doesn't sound good even if this were true this doesn't sound good that's horrific yeah that's horrific that your your government is lying to you selling you something that's not true that will still probably kill some probably kill some people that even though it will probably kill some people
Starting point is 00:21:33 won't actually help anyone right so watered down placebo so the vaccine the vaccine will just kill more people plus there no big deal all right cool the problem is that bill gates has ideas you know i don't disagree he has these things that he wants to do like with these vaccines they're going to microchip you so they can follow you around everywhere and do everything it's the mark of the beast at the same time it will also hit a off switch in your that's true in your body that's true it'll kill you that's true and if alex talks a little bit more i think about what that was about and this is i mean it's something sell me i'm gonna hold us hostage with this until they have the vaccine he approves of the four companies he's putting out that isn't even a
Starting point is 00:22:23 classic vaccine again it goes in and reprograms the cells that's called cancer and creates these proteins that the studies actually say are dangerous and turn off chromosome number eight look into what chromosome number eight does chromosome number eight being turned off i think they call that an uptune what happens if you don't have chromosome eight fully expressed no IQ sluggish stupid and you'd live about half as long all right oh that's if it partially turned off if it's turned off you're lucky you never make it out of mama it turns out the more vibrant you are the more powerful you are the more connected you are the stronger chromosome eight ish this this is a little much um there's a class in school that
Starting point is 00:23:05 just teaches you how to tell when somebody is so transparently full of shit just nonsense you should have that when you're in third grade they should play you that clip and be like this is what it sounds like some when somebody is just so obviously full of shit yeah and to be fair there are a number of conditions that are associated with what's known as chromosome eight monosome which is a very rare situation where there's a deletion of a portion of the chromosome pair that you would normally get from your parents sure um but this is this is silly this is from david eich this is all just david eich shit okay um there's a i found some stuff on some blogs that were basically the argument is they found something in the pcr test for covet 19 that
Starting point is 00:23:48 matches some portion of uh uh what's in chromosome uh eight okay but it's like it's 146 million pairs of uh yeah yeah yeah yeah it's it's i don't i don't know how much this means but the argument seems to go that because so there's actually two versions of this argument and both don't make much sense one is that the pcr test is looking for this thing this stretch of letters that represent the dna that's in all human dna it's an all that everyone has chromosome eight going on so it's in everybody so the test is looking for that that's why there's so many cases which fails to make sense of why there are negative cases yeah that one's real bad yeah that one's real bad that's not great oh boy now the other one is that um they're looking for this so they'll have the positives and and then
Starting point is 00:24:48 like oh god i don't even know how to i don't even know how to express this in a way that sounds fine coming out of my mouth they are making the argument that this thing is indicative of being positive for covid-19 sure therefore any cure for covid-19 would require turning off or killing this uh this stretch of of a dna which is chromosome eight therefore any cure for covid-19 would debilitate and quote unquote turn off this chromosome which is nonsensical but yeah so those are the sort of the two um the ideas that are growing out of this and as far as i can tell this all traces back to david ike yeah so i don't uh yeah i would love for alex just sit down and talk a little bit about chromosomes though yeah i would like to hear what he what else i'd like to see an extended portion of
Starting point is 00:25:43 his show how many chromosomes do you got alex just name them i don't know but uh more than you i have so many more they're so much better i wouldn't be surprised it was like i'm so much better because i have more chromosomes that's how that works he does later say that his chromosome eight is particularly good you just cannot be a narcissistic piece of shit it's like i gotta go oh man i was the first person to cure covid-19 that's steve so uh in this next clip alex seems to imply that he's working as a surrogate for trump when he's doing this covid-19 denialism i don't know i mean this sounds weird i'm uncomfortable with it and so i know what trump's doing i'd rather him just come out and expose fauci and expose bill gates and expose the luluan lab and everything
Starting point is 00:26:33 they did he's doing it through surgeons we're doing it right now but i just still think it is um not the route i would take but i guess i'm not the guy that never ran for office and ran in one and they got to turn the whole country around the guy that's been right about everything and done all this but he hasn't been right about everything and this is also not the first time he ran yeah and he hasn't been right about anything no um i know that alex isn't saying that he's working as a surrogate of trump to put out this bullshit yeah conspiracy nonsense about coronavirus but that is what that sounds like that is what those words seem to mean hey trump i wish you would come out and attack and say all these conspiracy theory bullshit but he is doing it
Starting point is 00:27:11 through surrogates and we're doing it right now it does tend to imply that maybe you're you see yourself as a campaign surrogate yeah it does sound like what he's saying is that we got our orders and i wouldn't have given those orders but i've got my orders so i'm gonna do what i'm told it's confusing at very least so whether or not alex is an actual campaign surrogate he's definitely about to talk to somebody who probably is an unofficial one and that's fucking roger stone right roger's on because uh there was a bunch of uh news articles that went around uh recently that were talking about how he came on alex's show and said that trump should take all the ballots from nevada and you know take over if the the election and you know all this is for sure
Starting point is 00:27:56 and uh roger does what roger does and that is be like hey guys i was taken out of context the mainstream media bastardized my comments took them out of context uh ignored that that i said that the uh the insurrection insurrection act in martial law could be used only if there was blatant and flagrant evidence of fraud i did not say the president should invoke martial law if he lost an honest election i never said anything of the kind two important clarifications there unreal that like roger's saying that he was taken out of context his defense of himself is out of context yeah because he's saying that i didn't i said that if there was good evidence trump could do this but he also said that there was good evidence that this voter fraud was happening
Starting point is 00:28:47 he said that all of the evidence is there and when he says like i didn't say that trump should seize power i i you know if there's a fair election he also said there won't be a fair election yeah his his definition of a fair election is one where trump wins yes so the only way that he would want his plan to happen is if biden wins uh which is what his plan which would by definition be an unfair election exactly yes so yeah you're even his defense is worse yeah it this this nonsense about being taken out of constant context is so dumb it's so it's so malicious just go back to saying the n word well he was taken out of context i don't i think that's it doesn't matter so anyway roger complains about how poorly he was treated by the media um and then we get uh we get a return
Starting point is 00:29:34 of something we haven't experienced in quite a while the media i've been in business i've been in this business for 40 years it has always been a standard practice for reporter any reporter any publication to call you when you are uh you know when they're writing about you and that has not happened we are they write anything they want about you without giving you the opportunity to comment what does this signify though they're worried about what you said they really media matters sorrows they're really worried because this is their game plan Alex is eating so i what why would you reach out to stone for come reach for comment stone said no uh huh um reach for comment stone said it was randy credit code it's it's it's interesting to me that
Starting point is 00:30:28 roger would be uh at a one-time employee of info wars and complain about people reaching out for comment like i've never seen in an info wars story alexander sorrows was reached for comment about the bullshit contracts that we claim are real i've never seen them be like george sorrows literally works for the devil when reached for comment sorrows did not respond or whatever you know like it never they never reach out for comment for people not once it's a foreign concept for wars it's just brutal oh they do these stories and they don't reach out for me to comment you can just say it like that like he's oh what a dick what a fucking asshole yeah i hate him so much so alex claims that he's talked to some people in the trump white house and not only do they have
Starting point is 00:31:17 ideas about this vaccine stuff sure they also have told him that uh hey look there's gonna be voter fraud no doubt sure and we're gonna do what we can we're gonna do it we're gonna do what we can but then you know the supreme court's probably gonna get involved i talked to one of trump's top people uh yesterday morning he called me and he said that they're optimistic and they believe that there's gonna be fraud they're gonna the lawyers are gonna try to block it try to hold the election but they said maybe after a few days they believe the supreme court is gonna come in and veto these democrat soros attempts to drag this out for months fraudulently what do you think about that statement is that show overconfidence by the white house uh first of all i i wouldn't
Starting point is 00:31:57 count on this supreme court we seem to have a chief justice who votes for the liberal block quite a bit so that would give me uh well that's exactly what i said i said how many of people are blackmailed at least two of them i don't know about that but i do know that we have people appointed by republican presidents uh who who are uh deciding wrongly on key issues in voting with the liberal block so now i i don't care about any of this except for the fascinating thing where alex is laying out a conspiracy and that is that the supreme court's being blackmailed yes and roger's response was i don't know about that normally in conversation that would happen and then you'd move along yeah alex cannot because he needs roger to be on board with this
Starting point is 00:32:42 roger i don't want to get into fracas with you but you're you're a smart little guy no more than i do about actual politics i don't know about the general world i would say as much or more but remember it came out after the obama care votes and others that there was some dirt on two republican members that were appointed by bush uh and that and that there was mainstream news asking where were they blackmailed uh that's fine i i don't have an opinion on it because i don't get here just saying their voting record is pretty damn liberal well but let's see let's get back to the to the case at hand there's an interesting thing going on where roger's not playing ball with alex the way yeah he wants him to i'm confused by that i think it's because roger
Starting point is 00:33:21 doesn't give a fuck anymore you got out of prison i could be i'm gonna say what i want to say i want to give a shit about what you have to say i've leased your audience for the roger stone defense fund and uh i'm not doing great but i don't need this anymore that's fair um and i i just get that sense that like roger is willing to take some exposure or whatever but he is not willing to be like alex's fake best friend anymore so when alex wants to go off on a conspiracy about the supreme court being blackmailed or whatever he's like this is too much i don't even care yeah and it happens again alex is talking about like how um you know uh kamala harris has been uh it accidentally said the harris administration and like oh this is all proof that biden's gonna step down and you would
Starting point is 00:34:10 expect roger to be like absolutely and not only that but yeah yes and yeah because we've heard even in the past uh roger helping alex be like yeah this is a placeholder for michelle obama exactly that's not what he's doing anymore even seeing in a month ago said oh don't worry biden'll step down i think they're getting everybody ready for that right now you know just having studied the personality of bill biden since he went to the senate in age 29 i don't think he will ever step down this is his life's dream he's always wanted to be president this is a person having a conversation with someone without the need to be like yeah you're right yeah like yeah it's roger probably feels embarrassed to agree with alex about narratives like yeah joe biden lifelong politician is going
Starting point is 00:34:57 to run for president win and then step down yeah yes alex your fear of hillary clinton is correct yeah you know and and now he's like i don't need to i don't need to play that fucking game yeah i can act like an adult that's no the supreme court isn't being blackmailed but there are some justices who aren't ruling the way uh that you want to maybe you can't count on them the way that you would expect they're not all in lockstep with trump on this shit uh oh that's so annoying how stupid they are about that stuff because roberts's opinions that can all really boil down to guys lie better you wrote this in crayon i can't i want to agree with you but you did such a bad job that if i when i die history is going to view my supreme court as the dumbest fucking supreme court so i have to say no
Starting point is 00:35:44 and then you can sue and lie better that's what i want from you you children yeah i mean and to me this shows like uh roger's past behavior in such a like like a very clear light like yeah yeah yours going along with things that you knew were fucking stupid yeah but now don't need to no you gotta fucking pardon i'm out yeah now that he's not in jail he's he's probably like i had to meet that asshole corsie through all this i'm not getting paid by him for wars anymore yeah yeah so alex gets down with roger and uh he goes to his calls finally and he gets a call from a guy named liberal who in many times i've listened he calls in a bunch uh he's somebody who says things off him that alex doesn't like he doesn't enjoy too much and i thought that this was going
Starting point is 00:36:32 to be one of them because he's he's coming from a place where he's like no fuck this shit man trump and bill gates are working together liberal liberal in new york here on the air welcome hey alex um i think this is just all here for the ill-informed i think that donald trump under his administration they've donated 1.6 billion dollars or so to gavi which is um bill gates his organization that's the global alliance of vaccines and immunization yes and in my opinion you cannot donate 1.6 billion dollars to an organization such as that where who are um who's actually one of the four permanent members of that particular organization is the world health organization and think that it isn't a relationship a strong relationship between bill
Starting point is 00:37:24 gates and donald trump and what we are having now is just theater where they're playing off against each other so i heard that and i thought like alex is gonna go he's gonna lose it that sounds bad no he's got no the way you go with that is yeah man alex is keep your friends close and your enemies closer that's an option that you have but i remember a couple times that liberal is called in and said things and it's led to alex meltdowns and i just keep whenever i hear liberal call in i think like oh alex forgot who that is because it's just led to trouble in the past um maybe he thinks it's a different person every time he must or he's a liberal has no memory uh that's probably true too but this guy calling in to be like this is all theater trump's they get their administrations
Starting point is 00:38:10 donated all this money to the gavi and all this and alex shockingly does not get mad but i agree with you this could this could this could be the determining factor uh on trump i just think his earlier instincts were saying don't trust the vaccine don't give it to young people it shouldn't be mandatory and now we're hearing it's gonna be perfect it's gonna be totally safe well that's a lie no vaccine is totally safe so yeah we're hearing the media always says trump's lying he hardly ever gets things wrong or lies i know i mean i cover it he is lying and that's what i'm saying i don't like hearing him i played the clip last hour no you heard it he said it's a perfect vaccine no problems it's gonna fix everything well that's not true this is weird
Starting point is 00:38:49 this is very strange yeah i'm confused yeah i'm very confused by this but i think that this might be why he's dealing with this through the prism of calls as opposed to covering the story yeah that makes sense because he can then have this in the conversation uh with a caller and it have less weight than if he was just like trump is lying about vaccines yeah he can float some stuff around without it's like this is a conversation we're talking about it i'm not but then again he did just say that trump is lying directly yeah so there's that and it would raise the question if you actually believe what alex is saying is like why yeah why is he lying i guess if he never in alex's point of view it's to pacify the population just like poiton pooton is doing
Starting point is 00:39:32 with the sugar water right so you're saying that your uh dear fearless leader is lying to pacify the population right for your own good he's injecting you with a fake medication right in order but i'm pretty sure that alex would be very very strongly against this if it weren't trump well and i think that that might be part of why he because i think it might that might be too far for him to go sure and that might be why he's dancing around this like this if anti-vaxx is the line in the sand for i don't think it is trump i don't think so either but god damn that'd be a real bummer yeah i i his lies about his lies now are not as compelling as my lies about their lies trump putting out like a watered down vaccine or like that being the image of it and like that
Starting point is 00:40:25 being what happens that's workable for alex sure even with the anti-vaxx positions that's something that could be like all right this is to get the world health organization off his back or whatever right bill gates can't do it so now if there is a huge push to get people vaccinated there are requirements like you can't go to school unless you've been vaccinated then there's a problem for us yeah that will be a problem yeah i don't know if he'll be able to get around that but until there are like parts of society that you can't engage in unless you've been vaccinated right like you can't be involved in health care that's fair you know like that that will be where that really sucks because that's only going to happen
Starting point is 00:41:08 in a next year because there's we're not going to have a vaccine it's not going to happen he's lying about that in order to get elected he knows that there's not going to be a vaccine everybody knows there's not going to be a vaccine so the only way that the only time period in which that happens is in a biden administration so they get to go back to kick an ass about their anti-vaxx bullshit yeah maybe oh man we're fucked so alex has a guest on and uh when he said this it was like oh i get what's going on i asked this guest who was on your state to pop in for one segment so we're gonna go right to him with an update because we did see a huge response and that's really smart that's that's great people understand what's going on and
Starting point is 00:41:49 that gets you prepared that gets us prepared he had the CEO of my my patriot supply his survival food company on the day before and they saw spike in sales so he's having him back on again to try and move some more product sales yep and in order to make the most out of this you know you really gotta you really gotta hype some shit totally you gotta really make it seem like you've only got one segment uh-huh and so i've done the calculations that's why i'm like give us the money buy the products get get the stuff because trump loses man no conservative or christian is even be allowed to bank you're like oh they'll never have us wear masks they'll never lock us in our houses no no no they're gonna do it all according to who they're gonna bring in the social
Starting point is 00:42:29 credit score on january 20th when biden gets sworn in just like that and they expect the upheaval they expect you to freak out and they expect you to come to hat in hand to their local group and get on your knees to them and they'll call google up and they will allow you to buy and sell that day and you'll think oh great but then they'll want a little more a little more teach your son to be a pedophile cut your son's testicles off worship world government eat gmo take all your vaccines and then they got you this is just uh meant to create an intense amount of fear uh surrounding possibilities of the election and quite frankly if alex was sincere you should just be like hey look your money's worthless after the election if five wins money don't mean shit give me that money
Starting point is 00:43:16 now and maybe trump will win that would be a great why the fuck not he's already abusing this audience yeah no shit to that he's almost at that level you can give me your money now or lose it all right next year right i do like that that's a great fifth it's just gonna be toilet paper later hopefully so alex takes another call because i'm not gonna listen to his food sponsor hawk uh survival food of course not uh he takes another call and this guy had me worried walty in new york thanks for holding all your own here hey alex how are you doing uh i mean you know i'm just doing as good as everybody we are in the fight now brother what do you think about the holy spirit alex the holy spirit is a permanent space and is it analogous to a radio let's say that we can't
Starting point is 00:44:06 see it but it's here could it be permeated and we can tune into it absolutely his call has nothing to do with that question uh he moves on to another he just moves on from that yep like that's a fine thing to do yep oh boy i heard that i was like uh oh walt you're freaking me out oh no is it possible that the holy spirit is like a radio transmission and permeating through space you bet it is i do like that response yeah i think that would be my response too is it possible yeah yeah probably yeah sure it's weird this show is weird this is a very weird call you get calls and some of them are uh jamaican guy in new york talking about how trump and gates are working together and alex doesn't get mad at that weirdly why not another guy calls in and as a non sequitur wants to know if
Starting point is 00:44:50 maybe the holy spirit is like radio waves now why not what the fuck so anyway much like alex eating we haven't heard that in a while we get another return to form uh me because you belong you belong in a free world in a free country you belong to be with god you belong to have your wife to have your husband to have your children to have your grandparents to have your future progeny you belong in the universe you will conquer the universe you've been given dominion over the heavens you belong don't let them take that destiny a little bit less inspired than some of his past efforts over you belong to the city yeah that's not as good but it
Starting point is 00:45:59 was still a it wasn't it wasn't at bat here's what i would do here's what i would do there's a punt if i'm if i'm linked later i'm not casting him as guy with bullhorn what i'm doing is casting him as esoteric coach so right before it no clear eye full heart can't lose listen you guys deserve to be in the universe everybody knows that that's the best way the holy spirit is coming through you it's like a radio signal permeating everything around have i ever told you about the norse tree of life anyways get out there and get him yeah but it's gotta be chill over saxophone link later movie where alex is a coach but it's a weird uh quirky coach who always has a sax player yeah i like it no that's a good movie so alex takes another call and this guy seems to be like
Starting point is 00:46:47 i'm sick of the bullshit trump is trying to pacify the patriots okay seems to be some people who are getting through the analysis show that are not into trump as much nobody's going to prison of all the people that have are completely and guilty of international war crimes that walk around on our government pedophilia addition trees and all those other acts and bar germ aren't doing anything or not going to do anything and i think that you know i think trump is playing everybody i think that a lot of people are in denial that perhaps we are definitively in the end of time and then this is all a setup and leading exactly where the operation lock step says to the market of these and i think that this is all coming in and i think that part of what trump's doing
Starting point is 00:47:28 specifically with infowars and mr ous jones is he's placating the tens of thousands and hundreds of thousands and millions of patriots that listen to you and keep giving them just enough to keep us placated just enough to keep us to date it to where we have enough hope to where we're not going to do anything and it's all going to reach up and smack let me just be clear i am sure of hard okay thanks for being clear now make that one a drop yeah uh thank i appreciate the clarity uh on your heart pureness um i would say first of all to this caller operation lock step isn't a thing you've just been tricked into thinking that because you listen to alexon second in that document uh that rockefeller document that involved the four possibilities of the future of technology in the
Starting point is 00:48:15 developing world you bet the one that was called lock step does not end with a fucking mark of the beast no there's no mention of satan i usually don't put mark of the beast into like uh wargame studies like it's not a religious revelation type document the way you want it to be because you listen to fucking dumb dumb's like alex all the time now that was what was in the that was what was missing in those 11 pages in the 911 commission totally it was that it was the devil right who was behind it this caller what he's representing is the inevitable uh backlash that you will have whenever you have all of these right wing type and i mean i guess it's probably possible on the left too but it's been really endemic in the right wing these these fantasies of retribution
Starting point is 00:49:00 that are coming the qanon stuff is just ripe for this like it's it's almost perfectly designed to be disappointing to people yeah to the point where they then have to create an explanation for why it's disappointing not real right it's going to disappoint you because it's not real but you can never really accept that right you because it make you feel really stupid it would have to yeah and then i i mean a certain percentage of people respond to that frustration and that uh that uh disappointment that this x y or z thing didn't go the way it was supposed to they'll lash out violently and i think that's part of the calculus yeah yeah it's it's kind of scary because you hear this guy and he's like i think that people like alex who's preaching intense
Starting point is 00:49:46 amounts of violence that guy is part of a plan to pacify the people who would be violent yep that implies that like what should be going on is i don't know hunting liberals in the street i just don't understand how it is that you can see through some bullshit suddenly and then be like yeah see well that bullshit doesn't absolutely affect any of the other bullshit that i it's because you're not seeing through it yeah you're rationalizing inconveniences that's true yeah so this guy has these things okay you know like i think that it's possible that people like alex are being used by trump to pacify these patriot types and alex tries to push back and mic down for this because it's really interesting okay alex tries to be like well come on
Starting point is 00:50:36 then this caller uses alex's narratives no alex what and alex has to fold and move on to another topic no shit he can't handle it oh shit but i don't think trump himself is evil uh i think he could be deceived nobody's perfect but the legitimate hatred of the left of trump is real though i mean they don't like him but that's the place alex that's the play that's the hegellian dialectic i mean i learned that from you i agree and you know i talked to all these horrible folks they obsess on the hegellian dialectic because it's real but sometimes i've been playing the dialectic shatters the dialectic it's a complex issue that's why we're open to the calls up i don't know what do you think you think i mean gage is legitimately
Starting point is 00:51:19 pissed that trump has taken the vaccine away from him he did you can't take it away from him because he owns every vaccine lab on the planet between him and the rockatole foundation every one of his foundation cones and controls everything on the earth no that's true what what do you think about bill gates his daddy died today that's a nice little omen wow wow that's yeah alex shifts the conversation to talking about how bill gates his dad died and then goes to commercial because he can't handle this he's like yeah he took trump took the vaccine away from uh gates and he hates it but based on alex's own rhetoric yeah that is not something that's possible and this caller recognizes that and alex can't handle his own
Starting point is 00:51:59 shit being thrown back at him oh by someone who unfortunately believes what alex says how dare you have listened to my show last week and then remembered it what are you doing taking notes you saw how like perplexed alex was just by the that's a hegellian dialect yeah this is what you taught me well i agree uh anyways uh but trump is not perfect did you hear the bill gates his dad died isn't that cool what there's a clown smoke bomb fucking dick yeah so alex goes to commercial and like that was that was pretty telling to me that was like really disappointing i mean it's exactly what you expect alex is naturally really dumb and yeah skating by on people not calling him on stuff like that right right um and he comes back and he's got another guest
Starting point is 00:52:42 all right nick flantes is on with us oh fuck me i really appreciate him joining us we'll take some calls too before you in the sour ball wants him takes over and he's the founder of the groeper movement and he's also been censored and blocked off many years the internet but it's still not defeated him he's more popular than ever i'm not sure about that um so i don't care we talked about nick flantes a bit in the past and it's it's embarrassing for probably for both of them yeah like because nick flantes fancies himself a bit more of a serious like trying to get uh change affected in society sure and so for him to be like slumming it with alex like if you talked to nick privately i'm certain he would say that alex is a stupid piece of shit probably it
Starting point is 00:53:25 doesn't know anything about any topics like i'm i'm pretty sure he would be embarrassed to be associated with alex for anything other than publicity yeah of course simultaneously nick flantes is a 22 year old internet racist personality that like is now kicked off stuff isn't really that much of a relevant figure um and i think alex should be embarrassed that he's having this conversation but as it turns out this sort of catholic fascist type uh world that nick flantes dwells in um in alex's world are very much on a similar project they have they have killing the liberals well eventually oh boy we're trying to get the word out to every major dissident right sort of outlet to put the word out so that when this tries when the globalists
Starting point is 00:54:17 try to steal the election when this transpires everybody will be watching and looking at the mail-in ballots people be watching let me just stop here i mean they're already done the precursor they're already doing it i mean they're going to do it so they're already doing it i agree so how do we counter that how do we get ahead of it just expose it yeah exactly expose it and i think the trick is going to come in on election day like you said trump is going to win the election i think it'll be a landslide electorally and what you'll see is that in the days and weeks after the election that's when they're going to find all of these extra votes for joe biden and a trump landslide will transform into a joe biden landslide because they'll
Starting point is 00:54:56 basically be committing voter fraud massive voter fraud because of the mail-in ballots so the two of them have a similar project in as much as creating a preemptive narrative that invalidates any non-trump victory outcome of the election yep and this this this idea that the days after the election that all that is just to call into question and make suspicious the reality that it may take longer to come to like to count ballots this yeah this cycle because of the the realities of the world yeah um and you're just creating a preemptive track uh in order to because they know what they're gonna do yeah they know what they need to have narratives work come in november sure they need to do this to set the table uh in order to to do whatever
Starting point is 00:55:49 they're they plan to do 100 which is if trump wins say he he they tried to cheat but he won anyway it was such a landslide and if he loses uh then uh decry the voter fraud yep all these ballots being found everywhere blah blah blah trump's the rightful president it's all it's it's painfully transparent it's just such a bummer that this because i don't think the right wing is all that extreme uh this extreme but there's no way for them to de-escalate if biden wins like the what they have to say these people that's what i'm saying these people cannot de-escalate they just can't do it you would think that and i think for a certain segment of their audiences you're absolutely right there is no de-escalation but you think that about alex in a lot of you
Starting point is 00:56:41 know times in his life like that's true you know there's been a lot of times that he's been like this is the globalists making their move yeah granted it's been way more severe in the past six nine months sure but you know i alex is such a shithead and his audience is clearly so brow beaten and indoctrinated that like i don't think it's impossible that biden could win and then he could be like now we got to go back to our roots rand paul actually is uh you know he's he's a fiscal conservative he's a he's a real guy in the senate he is a proven track record we got to get behind him and you know who's exciting josh holly you know who's exciting jim jordan you know like i could i could and it's not like and just like bill bar and how he can hate him and bring up all the
Starting point is 00:57:25 epsom connections unless uh he's doing something that he likes they can he can just be like well we thought trump was the guy but look at all the ways that trump lied to us and failed us which you can point to because they did you know like there's a there's a built-in like well we can't do trump stuff anymore we gotta yeah you might be right even if you want to not do that and salvage what you've got here it's very simple to just be like all right look yes the globalists stole the election but what are you gonna do they've stolen them before we have the reality in front of us that we have you know you can you can try and get the supreme court to overturn the election but guess what most of them are blackmailed anyway it doesn't matter the only thing
Starting point is 00:58:09 you can do is buy my survival food keep us on the air and we'll continue the fight against the globalist which uh is gonna happen right here on uh band dot video two probably because band dot video one the original one they're blocking the links to that but i got another url and you could do that there and then uh got my uh survival food guy coming in again because we moved some product yesterday that's very exciting also got a crypto fascist coming in gonna interview him about how we should shoot uh folks cool oh boy what i wonder why we're censored off all these platforms just have one question for alex which is why isn't kary allowed on band dot video that is a real serious question that i like if we were gonna talk free speech for kary cassidy exactly i'm i will
Starting point is 00:58:53 absolutely spearhead the get kary cassidy on band dot tv you know if i lived in austin i probably would as a goof try and protest for kary outside alex's office we've got a tiny bullhorn we could get enough people to leave the little lake area and head over to alex's studio and we're going for barton springs over to alex's studio to try and get this space weirdo put on his website in the name of free speech yeah that's a great idea sounds like us so um alex and nick flantes like like i said their project is in sync right now which is yeah not too surprising yeah um and it's just like if you're listening to this show it's so clear that it's already in place the narrative is already in place right that there is only one rightful outcome of the election that
Starting point is 00:59:42 hasn't happened yet they know they're losing this election they've said it i mean the folks that just tuned in it's the democrats on record they know they're losing there's a political realignment all they can hope to do is break their cities and states off and challenge it to literally bring the economy down and so at that point i say arrest their ass and i'm anti-police state but if you're holding the country hostage and holding me hostage i say walk a plank absolutely well yeah it's a coup so you have this presentation that like everybody knows that trump is going to win the election so anybody who's not on board with that should be arrested yeah that's fucked up yep it's kind of scary uh no matter what it's a coup but they will not
Starting point is 01:00:24 accept it i mean yeah it makes sense they're fascists why would they care what an election says you know like of course not well and they uh you know i mean one argument against them being fascist is that they want to outlaw their rival party when have fascists ever done that that's a really good point they want to do it through the court stand yeah even if we win this battle and trump gets in and everything then in 2024 we have another fight and that fight is over the succession after trump leaves office if he doesn't leave office now he leaves office in 2024 hold on i want to hear this because if we had a i'm going to interrupt you because i want to hear this party getting in power we don't have a party the democrats are the chai com in america party
Starting point is 01:01:11 so we need a second party or are you saying the republicans split in two and all there is is a succession fight because i agree we have to extinct the democratic party they're done they're like the nazi party it's in the world war two like this party's done oh yeah there's nothing redeeming about that party i got bad news about the nazi party post world war two wow you're you're talking to a guy who's friends with people who are still uh aligned with uh that party i love the way that he puts that too not we've got another election in 2024 we have to figure out who's going to succeed the king obviously we don't need to it's succession it's not an election why would you have an election that's why we want to vote trump in it no i mean i think uh i've heard uh some of
Starting point is 01:01:55 nick's conversations in the past or he does have some ideas towards catholic monarchy sure like that is not uh super out of sync with like his you know what we should do it should be malania trump yeah a lot of it a lot of these folks in this this end of the right wing um are very close to wanting a king yeah they are they probably wouldn't want to say that of course not but they would say everything except that word right that would be a dirty word yeah yeah it's really fucked up that are duly elected king jesus how can you be so like fucking 1776 we got rid of the king 2020 let's get a king yeah jesus yeah and this this idea about like let's uh extinct the democrat party is it's tough because i mean let's imagine that the democrat institution the establishment of the democratic
Starting point is 01:02:54 party the what would you call it like the fundraising apparatus the all that the institution of it goes away there's still going to be people with the exact same politics oh no no no no they will also be going away alex is the thing that every like the only reason the dnc you don't have to worry about it anymore the only reason anybody has any politics to the left of rand paul is because nancy polosi exists and the democratic party is there it's like they're just like okay we're outlawing the democratic party all of you liberals and democrats now you're just republican light as though their policies in the republican light party are going to change it's a it's an interesting way for him to to i don't know i mean if you look at it from like just like a like a reality based
Starting point is 01:03:44 uh perspective what he's talking about is really just the disruption of the apparatus of the democratic party it's not like you wouldn't be able to outlaw political beliefs at least i hope that's i hope that's not what he's advocating right but what the real world version of this would be would be disrupting the the funding mechanism for uh uh candidates and stuff like and what that would do is is give a uh a bizarrely comical advantage yeah to right wing candidates yeah i mean that's we extinct both parties well and split up into multiple parties it would be there it would be better uh as a system i think if we had more than two parties yeah but that is little bearing on my feelings about the coming election 100 true yeah i agree with you there as well uh because we currently
Starting point is 01:04:34 have a situation where the incumbent uh has a lot of followers who seem to think that god sent him it's insane how maverick and really is god literally had to give us this because trump's not perfect but he's definitely his own dude they cannot stand it this is god's sense of humor nick it is it is he's a human being he is a human being flesh and blood and you know even just the other day he's posting a picture of himself eating a philly cheesesteak and it's something that's very maybe silly or something but it's a reminder that this is a real person as opposed to what we see on the other side because a stuffed up elitist would not even do that or it would come off as fake when trump becomes as real as it is isn't it so amazing that trump took
Starting point is 01:05:16 a picture from himself eating a cheesesteak i really want to acknowledge that he just gets away with not dealing with that trump tape i mean you know what i'm saying like he just gets away with he doesn't have to he doesn't have to respond to that like oh yeah i knew it was super deadly he just doesn't have to deal with that not that i've heard of he just doesn't have to that's just such bullshit you know why dude ate a cheesesteak he's real i don't think you understand the political importance of a guy eating a cheesesteak and and he doesn't come off phony when he's eating a cheesesteak i'm i'm i'm just gonna light myself on fire he was sent by god and the evidence of this is a very sincere picture of him eating a cheesesteak you know the antichrist famously
Starting point is 01:06:04 convinces all false christians that he was sent by god that's an interesting piece of just pointing that out yeah trivia uh yeah when i hear stuff like that i'm like this bar is so low unreal it's comical just uh that's just sad they should feel like their pathetic wastes of human beings it's just so funny to imagine them making fun of someone on the left being like obama eat a cheesesteak isn't that amazing of course they would of course it'll be a week long news cycle for alice everybody would go apesh he wore a tan suit it'd be fucking cheese water yeah cheese cheeses steak water alex spent a week talking about like bloomberg eating weird oh yeah it's this is oh yeah it's very sad it's exhausting how stupid they are so uh nick fuentes has some
Starting point is 01:06:52 interesting thoughts about matt drudge uh and his uh current uh not being super into everything trump does ambivalence it's tricky because for so long i mean his website i think was really groundbreaking and um the format and everything was key to it and providing conservative news for a landscape where that just you don't have a lot of conservative news but lately it's been out of control and it's something that i've noticed maybe for about a year or something but lately in the past few weeks i think it was drudge that circulated that story initially about trump calling the troops losers and a lot of that kind of uh the rumor type stuff from the trump administration has been pushed there and uh and even this week there were some really terrible
Starting point is 01:07:38 headlines there and i saw that and i think that's such a shame because we as conservatives or we as you know broadly right-wing patriotic type people we don't really have that much infrastructure and that many assets as far as information goes but the exception of you and others you and others one of the things that uh nick's pointing out here is kind of fair and that is that the right wing put way too much in the matt drudge basket yeah probably it was such uh like everything for right wing talk radio people that was where they would get their headlines their talking points essentially all boiled down to like what does drudge think is important yep like there's so much stock that they've put in him that now this is a crisis for them yeah to try and figure out
Starting point is 01:08:25 like what do we do if we want to keep promoting trump but drudge is waffling a little bit do how can we get rid of drudge what do we do right we have to say drudge has changed right and alex has obviously said like i'm not going to criticize him but he's clearly playing for the other team what's for the devil but you know we're i wish him the best right yeah whereas with with nick i think it's an interesting approach and i think that he's trying to say that his uh drudge has changed and so he's posting these rumors now these these trump rumors and what i would suggest is sit with those feelings for a little while and try and think about old drudge do you think he was using better editorial standards i don't understand do you think that maybe that's all he's ever done
Starting point is 01:09:16 is post bullshit and rumors ah come on now dan do you think that may they used to agree with me all the time yeah right it is it is just a uh it's not a bug for them it's the feature is like it doesn't matter if i 100 respected this person and thought he was a god he disagreed with me and the way that i think things should be run so now he's against me well but but but but that's the way they love to act true it does happen a bunch and there's a lot of functionaries who are really easily dismissible but you can just throw out like scaramucci yeah get rid of them yeah but they're struggling with drudge and i think it's because like he predates the tea party yeah he predates so much of the things that are like he predates any idea that trump was going to be a
Starting point is 01:10:06 fucking political figure yep he goes back to like bill clinton days like there's something so essential about drudge in the right wing media sphere yeah my dad read drudge non-stop like to the point where i remember specifically i can see the drudge page on 9 11 like i can see it in my head he read it so much and you can trace a straight line from drudge to so many things like almost anybody like hanity tucker glenn beck alex jones they all were just feeding off rush limbaugh they're all feeding off drudge headlines yeah and they all like people like alex knew that like getting things on drudge meant you've made it yeah then you think about like okay project veritas that like okay well where did that come from that came from breitbart andrew breitbart was behind
Starting point is 01:11:01 the promotion of james o'keef in his early career and the launch project veritas andrew breitbart got his start working for drudge yeah like breitbart the publication came from andrew breitbart who went work for drudge like all this is like so much of this this spiderweb of of media tendrils all can kind of either directly or spiritually trace back to the influence of drudge and i don't think that they have as easy a time uh which has been like fuck that guy he's against us yeah that's true that's why alex can't say those things like even if he should say that he works for the literal christian devil yeah i imagine that what they i imagine that what they think is if they antagonize because they have to make it personal so they i imagine that they think like oh if we antagonize
Starting point is 01:11:49 drudge too much then he's not just going to be like in on the sidelines supposedly he's going to be actively uh against us and i i think that maybe they're worried that drudge knows the game and might expose the game yeah that's probably true uh oh boy i don't think they've been even to worry about on that front but i would be afraid if i were them too yeah so uh since drudge is kind of like you know a little you know ambivalence uh nick's got a new outlet to promote sure and i have to say it's been a very positive and interesting development that this revolver has come around and i don't know exactly who runs it but i've been i've been watching that lately i don't know about you but i've been reading a lot of really good stories i mean other things revolver it's like
Starting point is 01:12:35 revolver vote the plan the democrats plan a coup everybody's been zero hedges been covering we i'm not it's not about credit but yeah no revolver's doing a good job so what do you think's behind that i don't know exactly i don't know maybe mad drudge sold the drudge report he runs revolve possibly that's possible i would hope so that would redeem him i think in my eyes a little bit but it's a great publication and i'm not i'm not like behind it i'm not trying to shill it or anything i'm just saying it's like god it's a it's a positive mad drudge ah good joke wow so i don't know what the preoccupation is on the right with outlets that have people uh under fake names or aliases writing them the only way you can tell the truth is if nobody knows who you are yeah so i
Starting point is 01:13:19 check this out this revolver thing and it's just like uh aggregate of tons of headlines and stuff and you know it's it's a very useless website um but they could have chose a different name because revolver is already a music publication if you search for revolver you find out about stabbing westward's new song apparently how is it i don't know apparently corn and pod have a side project not concerned i don't even know if this is a real website these seem like absurd headlines these can't be real headlines what do you got what do you got for me maryland manson has a new album yeah you didn't know that no yeah he had a new album came out a couple weeks ago something about typo negative are they still around yes they are still around okay fine i haven't
Starting point is 01:14:06 heard these names in a long time just because they're irrelevant doesn't mean they don't exist i'm not saying they're irrelevant i don't mean to impugn their careers it's just i've not heard anything about corn and pod and the fact that they have a side project see that's what i'm saying i haven't heard about stabbing westward since like 1998 with that what do i have to do oh man to make you want me what do i have to do that song no one remembers that no that was from the 90s yes because that's where it should stay the first headline on revolver's top stories is about stabbing westward yeah this seems like a joke everything old is new again dan nothing against stabbing westward i really did enjoy that what do i have to do well try their new album
Starting point is 01:14:51 can't do it can't do it you're just can't do it old man i don't know what these kids are listening to it turns out it's the same shit i did 30 years ago fucking headlines about guar what's going on here everything old is new surge from system of it down i mean i knew they were still active for hate breed hate breed i don't think revolver is uh necessarily covering my genres of music that might be what we're talking about here that might it might not be a broad music publication it might be very specific yeah anyway the point is revolver already exists as an entity that even though i didn't realize it was kind of like a metal music or that that genre i i still knew that it was a thing a new revolver was yeah it was a magazine yeah but this is
Starting point is 01:15:41 an aggregate so it's different yeah so we have one last clip here and it's uh alex and nick flantes uh they have some complaints about uh fox news sure and it's because they had an interview with newt gingrich that didn't go well right because he was lying out of his teeth well because he started bringing up zoros well you don't want to do that and i think that this actually brings up a really important point these days and even just the other day i don't know if you saw this but fox news they got really weird when newt gingrich was on talking about yeah let's play that clip anybody talks about zoros who publicly funds antifa and blm and who publicly is getting all these district attorneys elected if you say it you are the devil so uh here's what nick
Starting point is 01:16:23 flantes was just talking about look the number one problem in almost all these cities is george soros elected left-wing anti-police pro-criminal district attorneys who refuse to be keep people locked up uh just yesterday they put so many back on the street who's wanted for two different murders in new york city uh you cannot solve this problem and both howers and biden have talked very proudly about what they call progressive the district attorneys progressive district attorneys are anti-police pro-criminal and overwhelmingly elected with george soros's money and they're a major cause of the violence we're seeing because they keep putting the violent criminals back on the street i'm not sure we need to bring george soros into this i was gonna say you get the last
Starting point is 01:17:18 word speaker he paid for it i mean why can't we discuss the fact that millions of dollars i agree it said george soros doesn't need to be a part of this conversation okay so it's verbote all right we're good okay we're gonna move on holy shit oh gingrich was shocked well you know that like this is what happens yeah like again fox news is not able to broadcast the conclusion of their thoughts like they they facilitated all of this this lean towards conspiracy these these uh these easy explanations for all these social ills it all goes back to soros funding shit like yeah of course like this is the fruit of what they have brought into the world of course and i think that right
Starting point is 01:18:20 now those hosts at least recognize oh shit yeah this belongs on info wars yep this doesn't belong on fox news unfortunately we're a news show right not info wars we have eroded things to the point where now we're the same thing and quite frankly you would have expected maybe someone who used to be relevant like newt gingrich would know better you would think he does not uh you're not safe even in an interview with newt gingrich on fox news jesus this info warzy bullshit's going to it's everywhere yeah it's going to filter it's gone too far it's mainstream now yeah it's it's strange it's it's like i wonder if there are any times in human history before where people have i don't know opened some sort of box and then once what was in the box was released they weren't
Starting point is 01:19:05 able to put it back in the box anymore have you ever heard of any similar situation like that so there's really no way we could have seen this coming no i don't i don't know of any metaphors or expressions that you're trying to touch on i can't think of any no well i'm at a loss yeah it's it's it's interesting and i think it's the same thing almost as that caller bringing alex's shit back up to him and him having to change the subject and go to break yeah yeah it's the same thing these people are interviewing newt gingrich and he brings up like fucking soros conspiracies and it's like this is your fault but you also can't keep going down this road yeah because you know where it goes hey buddy uh soros cares if we lie about it
Starting point is 01:19:52 soros doesn't care if info wars lies about it right but we're big yeah we can't be doing this shit this i mean it's just the the sort of it's interesting there's sort of two parallel examples of like the limitations of this game yeah uh just sort of uh and and how you will end up creating something that you yourself can't engage in yeah of course and not just that but sad but it's it's it's literally just that like they don't know what to do when what they ostensibly think our allies are forced to deal with reality whereas they're not you know just like uh you know just like with alex and the the guy on the phone call it's just like if i am forced to engage with reality uh this is all wrong this is just not how it's supposed to go and then when it happens they're
Starting point is 01:20:44 like i could examine whether or not they have a point or i could call them soros funded operatives and that one's fun yeah it's uh it yeah it it bums me out anyway um we did not have time to gather phone calls uh because we had a guest appearance on a a podcast that will be out eventually who do we had to record before this so uh apologies we couldn't get any calls but we will have some on our next episode yep uh we'll be back we but until then we have a website we do have a website it's knowledgefight.com yep we're also on twitter we are on twitter it's ad knowledge underscore fight and i go to bed jordan yep we're also on facebook and if you if you could please find a uh local charity or bail fund in your area to help out those people doing god's work hiccups yep we'll
Starting point is 01:21:35 be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i'm darryl rondis i belong to the city andy and chance us you're on the earth thanks for holding hello alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you

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