Knowledge Fight - #49: July 6-13. 2015

Episode Date: June 5, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about the third installment of his investigation into what happened to Alex Jones in 2015 to get him on board with the Trump campaign. Topics covered include: What InfoWars employee's uncle is investigating Sandy Hook? What is a "controlled rage?" Does Larry Nichols outdo himself in terms of dumb theories? How mad can one man get at a trailer for an MTV show?

Andy and chance us. You're on the air. Thanks for holding So Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. There's a podcast where we are two dudes who like to sit around to drink novelty beverages and talk about Alex Jones Yeah, to my great chagrin today. You have purchased and set in front of me. Let me start by saying whoop whoop We will be drinking delicious cotton candy fago Yeah, a soda so brazen that it bothers to say no We got nothing but carbonated water and high fructose corn syrup. We family up in here, man

No fruit juice. No nothing. It's it's water with sugar in it. Eat it you ants And it's flavored like cotton candy, which is just sugar Wow, that is that is candy. That's great That is that's fucking unbelievable. So this is a podcast where I know a ton about Alex Jones and you sir you do not Oh All I all I know is cotton candy in my mouth right now It tastes eerily like cotton candy, which is the most disgusting part of it That's something I've found with fago beverages in the past is that like they have weird flavors, but they nail it

Yeah, no, this is perfect. It's it's It's eerie to drink cotton candy. It is it is You did something you don't want you don't want liquid where you expect solid as it were I think there's a passage out of lovecraft where it's like it's It it's truly horrifying to hear animal sounds where human sounds should come or human sounds where animal sounds should come anyway This is not a lovecraft podcast Although I mentioned him a bit, but that's just because we we're starting to live in an eldritch terror

Yeah, yeah, it does see it does seem like the elder ones will be arising from the depth sanny moment now Yeah, yeah, donald trump's face is going to come off. He's going to have tentacles He's going to teach us new ways to kill and delight and revel That would make more sense than anything he's doing right now. He does seem gelatinous. Yeah So this is starting to look like a What's his face from men in black the guy wearing the vince of dinofrio? Yeah, vince of dinofrio from men in black He looks like he's wearing another person. I think my reference was better. I think mine is popular. That's fair

Uh, so we are podcast about alex jones, uh, and we're gonna get to it But first before we do I'd like to give a shout out to our new donator. What's up leslie? I'm a policy wonk Thank you for donating and welcome to the team Welcome to the policy wonks leslie if you would like to become a policy wonk you may do so by donating to our patreon There's a link up at knowledge fight.com. We welcome all of those who are interested in policy for the price of just one cup of coffee a day A week give us a month You can give us one cup of coffee one cup of coffee a month and you guys all team up You could help me out a great deal because I'm losing my mind. Yeah

Yeah, anyway, uh, jordan today We were going to be embarking on our third installment of the investigation that I've been doing Deep into the past of 2015 trying to figure out exactly what the fuck happened To alex jones this has turned into one of the most exciting true crime podcasts out there It's not really a crime. It's all it's all a crime. It's a crime against humanity. It's a larger crime. Yeah Uh, so on our last no one dies and yet at the same time pretty much all of us are going to because of it There's no doubt about that. Yeah, this is this is the prologue to the disaster. Yeah, exactly So, uh, we'll get to uh this installment

But because people have asked on twitter and you just asked me right before the show I want to get everyone up to speed with what's going on in current day because we're not going to cover it Uh, last week was a shit show There was no show on monday again because of memorial day, right? And then tuesday roger stone talked a whole bunch with rick derringer about i am a real american two are everlasting delight hulk hogan's theme song amazing Yep, uh, wednesday mike sernovich and alex jones announced their huge kathy griffin contest That's uh, that's on wednesday thursday They don't talk about that

Because she already knew it. I knew it. Yeah fantastic. It's still going on ostensibly, but they alex has he's moved on And now he's super into, uh, how cool it is that trump left the paris agreement Great, uh, because In alex jones's conception in his framework The the planet is carbon starved There's not a carbon dioxide issue No, we have I don't even want to hear the words you're saying right now. I know there's so there's

That's the one we're not going over. You might as well be like and rainbows are made of starlight and wishes like that's what he's saying Oh, okay. There we go. He's made of starlight and rainbows Uh, it it that's why we're not going to do an episode on it because the whole episode is mostly alex losing his mind and talking about He's still in his manic episode. Uh-huh. And so he's talking about how july 1st 2017 will be the most important day in history And here's why is because he believes that the way the globalists fund themselves is through this carbon tax That's been imposed Climate change isn't real. It's all a charade to create a carbon tax that goes to algore I don't know. I don't I don't get the a to b there

But be that as a name. Love it. So he's celebrating this. He's losing his shit He's going on and on about like weird biblical stuff It's so strange. He's talking about god's eye and what have you oh boy Which may or may not be a reference to fast and furious six or lord of the rings could be that too Or I think one of the assassins creed game. Yeah, there was definitely that Oh, yeah, so he's uh, I don't We discussed it a little bit on the last episode that when he's in this sort of manic

state It's tough to talk about it without making fun of what is Sort of overt mental illness, right? So I don't want to talk about that and on the same token The climate change stuff is just so loony that I don't want to make you because you would what's even what's even the argument to make You would freak out. Well. Yeah, listening to it. I'm already freaking out when you just said we're carbon star very angry I'm protecting my neighbors From your screams is what I'm doing. I am very rarely that

Come down So the other thing I want to talk about restraint with the Along the same lines as the we shouldn't mock alex jones in the middle of a manic episode Um, it came out on the internet last week that paul joseph watson eats books Yes, and I want to make it very clear that I hate him He's uh, his beliefs are stupid But I resent everybody making fun of him for his alleged pica You know, that is a condition and I really don't like to see people when he is so fucking open to attack for so many other things

All of these people making fun of him because he came out and admitted that he eats paper I don't think that's okay. He's a horrifying monster filled with transphobic Homophobic, absolutely. Uh, fucking hate just a hate filled monster. And that's the target and he should be He should be Absolutely eviscerated every single day of his life. Yeah forever like Uh, like a greek myth his innards should be pulled from him every morning He should heal and it should happen again the very next day except he has not brought us the torch of life He has not brought us any of that stuff. No, he's not a hero. No

Uh, and and it's the same thing with when he but also, uh, he should eat uh, all the paper he wants I don't give a fuck about him eating paper No, fuck you in the past He's talked about how he is a bit of an agoraphobic and Rayleigh leaves his apartment Right and again, that's a thing that I don't feel any interest in making fun of and I empathize I feel really I feel bad for him right in in those instances So when I see people making fun of him, I just it bums me out because he sucks But not for these reasons and it's unfair and it gives him an opportunity to re-attack back and be like

Oh, isn't this the tolerant left making fun of my mental illness? Yeah, it's a trap But it's I'm not saying that he's faking it as a trap But it is a trap you can fall into of course and it just really bums me out when people don't take the right attack plan On these assholes. Yeah, it's just stick to the reality Don't insult them for things that are human right Don't make fun of him for being afraid to leave his house Make him afraid to leave his house Train vultures to attack him the moment he walks outside

You can teach ravens to teach their own families to hate this man We need we need an army of birds. I think that's where my mind is at right now Because you know, they're the only ones who are going to survive once the rest of the earth is flooded Not if the owls have anything to say about it. I'm fucking peacocks, man. Uh, so We're going to start our investigation. Uh, today's episode is going to be covering the time span of july 6th to july 13th So, uh, we're going to be going over that but to give you guys a little bit of a last time on the investigation Alex jones did not mention donald trump for a long time He spent a lot of time talking about a chick filet billboard and misrepresenting the civil war

Yes, you're up to speed On july, why do we do three hour episodes? I don't know. This is a very good question If you just brought everybody up to speed in a two second recap But that's because you can go back and listen to that three hours. That's a good point On july 5th, alex jones very strongly indicated that he is fully aware of trump's mob connections And so we go from Dismissal and not even talking about trump to within a couple days I think 16 days after trump had announced his candidacy

alex jones is saying uh, this guy is You know, he's mobbed up right and I don't trust him 95 of what trump says but he doesn't trust him He agrees with the distrust of immigrants, right? Uh, he he agrees with that rhetoric, but he knows that trump isn't going to follow through on it Also at the end of our life smash cut to now Also at the end of our last episode We revealed that paul joseph watson also thinks that trump is a shill and he's just in it for publicity And thinks he's a narcissist, right? So that brings you up to speed. We are now on july 6th

July 6th is a fucked up show It's mostly phone calls Uh alex is sort of in a weird headspace And I don't think he really wants to do his show And so he takes a lot of phone calls and they're all pretty boring, right? But in the times that he's not taking phone calls. It's a lot of race shit He talks a lot about uh guilt because we're still only a month out from the charleston Less than that. It's been like three weeks or so. Yeah, but he yeah

So here is the first clip where we start with alex explaining that he just doesn't want this guilt I want to explain something. I'm pro human I really don't care at the end of the day what color you are Or where you came from if you support private property and the right to self defense and you support a level playing field And you're not a want to be social engineer trying to guilt me into feeling like i'm a bad person So i'll submit to whatever your

Agenda is that I care about you and I want you to succeed There's two issues that this donald trump situation gives us a window into I Don't trust donald trump as far as I could throw an elephant everybody knows that that said Most of what he says makes a lot of sense And I think he's a really smart guy. The problem is he won't deliver on what he says he's going to do in my experience He is an establishment shell

That's just what my gut tells me and what I've seen and what a lot of insiders Like dr. Corsi and others say Jerome Corsi now the washington bureau chief for info wars who has known donald trump for 40 years And regularly goes to dinner with him has told alex in 2015 that donald trump is an establishment shell And he is just there for publicity Well, yeah, but this is now. He's saying one of his sources Well, I mean We all know that we all knew that That's what he was there is

Etc. But now Jerome Corsi waiting for alex to say that he can throw like the next show He's like, oh, also. I can throw an elephant as far as a human being can trust another human being I love Yeah, that's his way out. He's actually so strong. He can throw an elephant a million months. He just sits there. I was like, all right Rob do you gotta help me Bring to throw this elephant. I will not be made a liar. Yeah. Yeah gonna fly now is playing in the background We get a nice little rocky montage So, I mean, I think that you're under playing this revelation that dr. Corsi is also on the same page

Because dr. Corsi is now a major player in alex's propaganda. He's a major player in pushing trump Right, but I see the thing the thing that is The thing that mitigates that for me is that Everyone was like, nope. We don't want trump. We don't want trump We don't want trump until it became apparent that They had to they had to like so even his friends were saying absolutely. Okay. Does he have friends? Come on apparently Dr. Corsi likes a likes a free meal every now and again, sure

I don't think trump picks up a check. No, that's a good point. Hey unless they eat it Exclusively at trump's places. That's possible. There you go. So but be that as it may We have this reiteration of I agree with This brace shit that he's saying this this stuff because the the trump situation that he's referring to is still Just the comments about the mexicans, right? That's still what's going on Right, that's the only context that he covers trump in pretty much. I think throughout the entirety of this episode We're going to be going over. So anytime there's the trump situation It's all just this which at this point in history on july 6th is old

Yeah, that happened again three three four weeks ago. Yeah, so he He's not he's not wrestling with up-to-date shit His his preamble there of um at the end of the day I'm pro-human and then here's his list of things that are pro-human are Private property sure self-defense. Yep, and don't make me feel guilt. Yep That's the wrong priority for any human being ever No, because that's the bedrock of all human dignity. What what about like care about others

What a empathy boo uh Respect no empathy respect for yourself and for others. Empathy none of that empathy is a globalist plot Let's do you understand in order to get white people to feel bad. So you balkanize them. Oh, okay I've actually come to realize something that I think I love how far we've come that you can just throw empathy as a globalist plot and I'm like, yeah, that makes sense All right Move that one makes sense. Yeah, let's go along with that

I think that alex believes And I'm I'm not sure about this, but I'm starting to think that he believes that the idea of People complaining about legitimate racial issues He interprets that as a plot to split white people as one cohesive group as a voting block Into a split group and some of the people will go along with the broken coalition that the clintons put together And other ones will become white supremacists I know it's nuts. How do you how do you Look, I'm just saying I don't like it when they split white people

As a voting block right we should all be united I'm not racist though. No at the end of the day I don't care what color you are so long as all white people are on the same team I want to be clear. He hasn't said as much But i'm starting to glean some of that from His interviews that he's had with like larry nickles and just some of the other things he said I think that that is part of his conception. It's part of so many old white dudes concept It's not like it's not like it's a thing they actively think about

It's just their their tribalism in the back of their head is like well you look like me So you must agree with me. We must have the same priority. Exactly. So which are of course private property self-defense and I don't want to feel anything I don't want to feel guilt. Yep, especially about I don't want to feel guilt for the fact that my private property comes from old white people's self-defense i.e Manifest destiny. Yeah, it is interesting that the reasons you should feel guilt are Private private the prior to yeah the private property that you have because of the system that has been in place and built very Literally on racism. Yep, and the self-defense you need because of that

Exactly All three of his most important things are white supremacists. So what anyway speaking of that. Let's get to this next clip So there's this Apologist idea Or any crime coming out of anybody who isn't white is basically acceptable You've got to ask yourself. What is that agenda really all about? So I don't believe that that's the agenda, but I included that. Oh, no, no. We live in Chicago and you know that as city

We all agree that Any crime done by black people? We just ignore totally cool. Yeah. Yeah, the cpd definitely does not have black sites Where they torture people. No, no, no, no, no, that's crazy We just ignore it But the reason that I kept that clip in because it is a little bit short and almost seems a little bit like a Non sequitur is the reason that he says at the at the end What's the agenda there? And I think it's fascinating because it's like

Are you talking about yourself? What's the agenda in you laying it out like this? You know what I'm saying, right? Yeah It's uh, it's interesting, but all of this could be explained is his what's your plan is actually What's my plan on this? What am I doing? What am I thinking? So actually, I think a lot of it can be explained by Considering what sources alex takes in and in this next clip alex explains what his news diet is like. Oh, no Oh, I don't want to know it's a little bit revealing. You know, I think I kind of got depressed this morning I was up. I woke up like 6 a.m. I was reading news articles And I was on info wars and I go look at the comments for tips or anything

That's kind of scan some of comments. What I was on you you're reading the comments on your own articles for tips Who had seven felonies have been deported five times and how they let him go san francisco did saying they think it's racist to turn a felon out of jail Uh for all sorts of crimes over to the feds who don't even deport him anyways So it wouldn't matter obama's basically stopped deportations I mean a citizen isn't treated like that. Oh, he definitely didn't deport more people than his predecessors And the guy went out and shot a lady and I saw democratic operatives. I went and clicked on their handles

They were real websites in the comments with people with their dogs and their cats and everything and you know They were real dogs and by their dogs and their cats mean they were real people Saying how dare me be racist and and and grammar Basically not just want to have people joy riding around shooting people And then how dare I defend donald trump because I just stick with the white people And it was mainly white people Saying this I mean their whole ideology is just mental illness. It's like mentally ill

I mean one of the things that I think is interesting is one I have developed two theories in my investigation thus far up to this point And one of them is reasonable and the other one will get too later The reasonable theory is I think that alex jones at some point around here July 6th 7th and that sort of span He starts to get really jealous Because donald trump is getting a lot of press Saying things that are very similar to things he says. Okay. All right. I think alex jones starts to get pretty

Petty and jealous about like why is everyone lumping me in with him? Why am I not getting all the attention that sort of thing and then on top of that? I think he starts to empathize with him a little bit because of the way the media treats him I think that there is a there is an identification factor that alex starts to feel with trump. Okay, that's the most reasonable theory I have about what gets him to sort of shift over. Yeah, I can see that I have an insane theory. That's an emotionally based like that's a reasonable human beings Uh, like I can understand that reaction and it sort of falls in line Now, of course, that means it is not true at all because you and I can understand it

Definitely not possible, but it also is because trump Uh Killed a globalist and left the head on alex jones's doorstep. That could be that's what we know That's you know that that's my insane theory But the my rational theory does take into account the psychology of both individuals like trump acts the way he does Because he's a narcissist and doesn't understand consequences Right and then alex is also a narcissist and he feels like hey I can get on this train. Mm-hmm. I see what's happening with him if I identify myself with him

Maybe I will get the attention that he's getting well. Yeah, he's saying exactly what I've been saying for forever Why is he more popular? Here's what I'll do. I'll uh, I'll drift off of it You know and there are a couple instances too of clips will play where alex says things that eventually trump with himself will say So there is also a possibility. Why are we why are we doing this whole america thing anymore? I don't know. Are we sure but there is also a possibility that alex Just lives his life and spouts the hate that he spouts and then at some point started to see Trump jock his style and be like all right This guy gets it. He likes me. This appeals to my narcissism. Uh, he's clearly quoting me. Right. I'm in

I don't know that makes sense. So On the like I said on this 6th july 6th episode at the end of the day alex wants to rub down from a famous guy More or less. Yeah, he's a star fucker. Uh, he but he chooses weird stars. Anyway, this next clip I told you july 6th. There's a weird day. He's in a weird headspace And it finally sort of blows off at this point like about hour and 10 into the episode It's almost like claustrophobia. I never used to have this feeling about politics But now I just want to hide from everybody and just let everybody kill each other and just be idiots because I'm pretty much there. I mean, I'm not putting on an actor. I almost left earlier. Okay

I couldn't even go on earlier and they had to basically air a tape But I may just leave I just God watching the videos and I go out in the street. It's not mark dice doing this The average austinite folks cannot find their fat ass with both hands And I want to slap them upside their head But let me tell you they are the most politically correct full of it arrogant scum And i'm sick of them And let me tell you who they mainly are

They have a bunch of pasty stupid white people As dumb as the so-called minorities are on average, they're more awake when I talk to them in these dumb ass white people everywhere I mean this country's a sick joke The juxtaposition there is amazing The music plus him just screaming about pasty dumb white people if If it was from if if it was from beverly hills cop and eddie murphy said that i'm way on board I believe every word

Yeah, so he's he's saying that Like it's not mark dice shooting these exploitative Erroneous videos where he goes out and talks to dumb people on the street. It's everybody. It's real This is really how people are. They don't know what the fourth of july is all this stuff. It's So that's what's making him mad and he's just freaking out So it goes to break with that music and then here is how he comes back from break

You know, I feel a lot better now Because i've been holding my anger in the last few weeks and During the break. I had a controlled rage just walking around so Back in the storage area of the facility where I petted my big ass done for a half I was not going to be able to continue doing the radio show because

my revulsion Of the globalists and they're how sickening they are How evil they are and how bad they are sounds like just gets to me And then I just wonder what is wrong with other people Why do we put up with this inversion of reality and common sense being trampled? I don't know. I I yeah, that's a really good question. Don't know why we put up with this But also this is the second time in a pretty short span that alex has Uh in episodes we've covered. He's had to leave the studio and have a controlled rage

Yeah, I I want to see what his controlled rage. He obviously breaks shit I mean on the last it has to on that keith oberman episode He was saying that he went and broke shit like he's a freaking he's he is a he's a rage. He's a roid rage kind of guy That's what's going on. He's not mentally. Well, no matter what even manic episode shit aside. He's not in a emotional spiritual Self-control kind of situation where he should be doing this right like I've talked about how this is starting to fuck with My mind a little bit. Yeah, and I'm losing it a tiny bit covering him. Yeah, I have developed slight agoraphobia

I don't leave the house as much as I used to and that stuff right but I've never gotten so mad listening to him that I've gone into a controlled rage. What is a controlled rage? I think it's code for a rage I think it's trying him trying to put a pr spin on On that so I threw shit in my office for a good half hour and I know I have a cleaning lady Yeah to fix it. Yeah, so or man, Alex. You should not you should not be doing this. You should not You shouldn't You shouldn't be in the news. It's it's Like

Like how do you look at somebody who is so clearly unhealthy in every aspect of his life? Seems like it right. There's no good. There's no good thing that we've seen Other than once a year he smokes weed to test its strength That's that's the only bright spot. That's the only healthy The only healthy thing I can see Alex doing you got to make sure that George Soros hasn't gone too far with that Right. No, you can't can't let him do that. Yeah, uh, no, I know he is uh, he's a mess but I think what people uh respond to in him is Specifically the white identity shit that he always talks about and that's why his audience is 87 percent right

well, and you can also if you're a Disenfranchised dumb white dude, you can absolutely sublimate some of your anger through his yeah for sure You know, that's one of the ways Yeah, one of the ways you can get it out is you allow this man to speak for you And then you feel you know, you get that dopamine reaction of well at least somebody's telling it like it is Well, you've got this terrible anger based on feeling like white victim hood inside you and you listen to his show And he screams about it right somehow you're right. It is it's it's somehow you can vicariously feel those feelings And maybe they come out maybe maybe it is a release

Yeah, I hope Because I think there are a lot of people who it's not I think it it's reinforcing right But I mean you have to imagine some of these people work in an office They go to the office and rather than take out all of this weird angry conservative white hot hatred On their co-workers. They just sit there listening to a Gorilla scream for four hours I'm really scared that my co-workers have seen that i'm watching uh info wars at work

I'm really worried that they think I like it I don't know no one's brought it up, but i'm so scared people think i'm an info warrior So I do have a huge beard right I could be one of those crazies right right anyway, uh, this is the last clip from july 6th In this one. He has jerald selenti on he has an interview with this dude. No idea who that is guy. Well, he works Uh in trends that's not a job He he does predictions and what have you about what is to come okay the way out. Is he a good predictor? Nope Uh, he has a lot of similar tendencies to alex to predict the collapse is coming permanently

They talk a bunch about how you need to buy gold, uh, of course, of course But what I think is more important about this interview is this clip that i'm going to take uh from it And it's jerald selenti really reinforcing the savior narrative that larry nickles has laid out for alex in past episodes And you said you were depressed because of the masses That are so out of touch So I had this little quote here that really says all of his guests by samuel adam This is a horrendous doesn't take a majority But rather an irate tireless minority

Heen on setting brushfriars of freedom in the minds of men It does not take a majority to prevail But rather an irate tireless minority Heen on setting brushfriars of freedom in the minds of men And that's what you're doing. That's what i'm doing. That's what dr. Paul craig robbins does. That's what ron paul does There are a number of us that are doing it. It's bringing it all together to make it happen He sounds like a shitty lennie bruce. Yeah, and he does do some like warmed over hacky comedy Stuff he does throughout lines like right. I don't even remember anymore, but like

It's a brush fire of heaven that you're gonna brush fire But you you hear it there. He's like, uh, he's talking about sam adam's quotes, right? He's throwing it out there It doesn't take a majority. It just takes an irate minority. Uh-huh It's the same thing as the what larry nickles keeps saying all we need is you alex. You are our savior He even goes so far like larry nickles I don't think I pulled the clip but he does say you are the last hope for the bastion of truth Jesus christ. Yeah, I mean he's It's he has these people in his life who are just completely reinforcing this. It's up to you now

I want to rewrite uh a new hope. Yeah, and have obi one just be this strange Uh ill proportioned angry dude. Yeah, just Yeah fucking lightsabers see the thing that I I think is like I do sort of believe I'm fighting a kixotic battle Against the windmill that is at uh alex jones, correct. I do believe and I think it's important I I don't think that this is just Fun entertainment. I think that there is something important. We're doing Uh, but I don't have exactly like the man of lamontia The musical which was far more important than the original. Yeah, I don't book is like 10,000 pages. It's great though

Nobody sings loves some servant. Nobody sings. I don't have a gerald salenti. I don't have a larry nickles I have you and I am not gonna tell you you are You tell me cool it So Imagine if I was on info worth alex stop getting so self-important chill out your your vocal patterns are too appealing You need to find a way to speak weirdly So that's it for july 6th Oh boy. Oh boy. Dan. I think we need to create a new mem. I don't want to do that. I think it's time

I don't want to do that I don't want to So we go to july 7th and this episode is weird. Yes. What happens? I know what I say that a lot that episodes are weird. That's because they fucking are Yeah, so the ones that you don't think are weird are Terrifyingly weird the ones that you do think are weird. I I can't process my emotions while listening to this The baseline is weird. Yeah, that's sort of where we are Um, so in this episode, uh, he has an interview with this guy named lord monkton who uh

refuse Refuse he does not believe in climate over these clips entirely. I don't have any of him He claims he actually was on the show Just the other day recently in 2017 to talk about how he has found proof That climate change is based on bad math And he's going to release a paper about it. How'd that go doesn't give any details no details It's based on bad math. Yeah, he's found four huge errors Okay, never made does not explain any of them. Uh, any any does he like talk about maybe it was in the measuring system?

Nope, no no specifics. Uh, maybe any uh, like a calculation, you know, like there are so many different factors That could go into the exacerbation of climate change, you know, like how quick are the ice caps melting? Maybe they just got the uh, the rate of decay wrong like maybe it's any number of possible things Dan tell me that lord monkton or whatever the fuck his name is Says that it's a mathematical issue that we can solve through peer reviewed research dan He didn't give any details. Oh, okay. Well, then never fucking mine But alex is thrilled climate change is still real alex So he's coming on back in 2015 to have a discussion about how the eu is a fascist organization

Uh, and I didn't I didn't keep any of that stuff in But in this clip towards the beginning of the episode alex says some stuff that I believe trump picked up on later stuff about how Obama is the founder of isis right these sort of beliefs are things that trump mirrored from alex jones Do you know what like maybe our big problem is that we just don't define words the same way like What do you think their definition of fascism is like the actual word? Like well, isn't it isn't that like a socrates quote like the beginning of knowledge comes from the definition of terms Right beginning of a language. Yeah, you can't really how can you how can you communicate with somebody who disagrees with you

Without first agreeing on what reality is. Yeah, otherwise. You're just talking past each other. That's a that's an interesting point Hmm I don't know. I don't think alex would be up for having that conversation though even about just defining right. Well. Yeah, right Because then that what do terms mean that point that paints you in a corner Then you actually have to engage with things like if you've ever So much of what alex does is un Unverifiable right like you can't disprove a lot of the things he says But if he were to give definitions to terms it would be like, oh no, that's absolutely not true

They'd have to you have to admit it right that's well exactly and I've had I've had conversations with uh Uh conservative people before in the past where it's been like, okay Where we're gonna stop This is what we are talking about. Here's the one subject. We're talking about So long as you agree that you can change your mind based on so you say, you know, you have no evidence for what you're saying Okay, fine. I will present evidence if it Disagrees with you then you have to change your mind And if you do the same for me, then I will change my mind

So long as the moment I do that you don't say Well, yeah, but what about no, no, no, no, no, no. We're talking about this goalposts moving. Yeah, exactly Anyway, alex believes that obama created isis. He did create isis, but through Accidental foreign policy. Well, no, george w created isis My the roots of it might go back even further than that if you really think about For middle ronald reagan created isis. Sure. Let's throw that out. I mean, let's just go back to find the term created Muhammad created isis. There we go Uh, so in this clip, uh, alex has a uh clip himself of obama talking about how

Uh, we will not be able to destroy terrorists through bombs and weapons. We need a better ideology We need to get at the root of what causes people to join these groups. That's called strategy That's very reasonable alex interprets that to mean hey, don't attack these guys. Hmm. So that's the sort of bedrock of this clip Right. Okay. Now. Let's go ahead Let's do it and let's go to this club of obama that we just need to have better ideas. What katelyn jenner Yes, maybe tell al qaeda how to wear a dress over will that idea trump them Or how about some obama? Yes to the dress two plus two equals five Maybe that idea will defeat them against western weapons. Most of them

cult m16s us 308 rifles 556 most of its us made delivered. Oh, they accidentally got special forces trucks And armored trucks. No, they didn't they were given them. They were armed in iraq. They were armed in Other areas like turkey. Let's go ahead and go to the clip and that means that we're gonna have to Pick up our game. Oh, yeah to prevent these attacks. Uh-huh It's also true why ultimately In order for us to defeat terrorist groups like isle and al qaeda

Is gonna also require us to discredit their ideology. Oh, yeah, sure The twisted thinking that draws vulnerable people into their ranks. You agree with it I said before and I know our military leaders agree this broader challenge of countering bound Extremism is not simply a military effort. Oh, yeah Ideologies are not defeated Ghosts are defeated by better ideas More attractive and more compelling. We're going to break. We'll come back and play the full club No, here it is

This is our proxy armies To take over the middle east and kill all the questions and we're gonna keep giving them weapons to do it And then we're gonna use them to take your rights domestically. Yeah, I don't understand He talks about how americana is so sexy. That's why he that's exactly what he thinks He thinks that if we create prosperity in this americana system of free market and what have you it'll be such an Undeniable system and that's what people liked about us in the first place exactly So kind of yeah, he kind of does he believes exactly what obama said word for word But he thinks well, I don't know if he thinks but because it's

I could just stop there. Yeah, that might as well be our stopping point for that He believes that uh, obama is saying that we shouldn't attack them and that's not what he's saying He's saying it's it's a he even said not just bombs which implies Oh, there's gonna be bombs, but Alex believe and if we take a look at obama's Track record on force or in foreign policy a lot of bombs plenty So but he's saying like he at the end there what you were yelling over he says let me translate that for you These are our proxy armies that are going to go kill christians, right? That's not what I that's not what obama's saying at all I don't think there's any like

There wasn't even a word or or anything that you could twist that into that was just him deliberately Misunderstanding. No. No, no, no not misunderstanding Deliberately saying some straight-up bullshit just deliberately misleading. Yeah. Yeah, because otherwise he would have to say good call obama Yeah, and he would never do that. That's just not possible. Nope, which again is why we're all fucked Like when a democratic president says something that republicans agree with If they can't agree with that then they just lose their more their minds Yeah, and it has to shift to something else exactly like what we just discussed, right? It's you shift the goalposts you move the conversation

So you're like, oh, shit. I agree with you, but hold on. What? Yeah, yeah, no Benghazi. You're a monster. All right emails So in this next clip, I believe on july 7th here This is some evidence of alex beginning to empathize with trump Uh more than just agreeing with his rhetoric about immigrants. I believe this this clip shows Some kernels of I see myself in him. Mm-hmm Like i'm always talking about engineers Who have friendly here or who have married somebody Engineer they'll say it's a sham marriage and send them out of the country

But then if you want to come here from again, the biggest group of immigrants now is not mexicans chinese And you come here and have your baby openly. You have the baby two weeks after you arrive You come you get your extended stay. It's in the news how they do it. You have your baby. It's all paid for And then if I don't want to pay for it. I'm racist. Can I go to china and say i'm here to have my baby I want my free everything. I mean, it's crazy And what's really got me angry about this is the donald The criticisms of donald trump

That he's racist. I mean, I've got articles here where Where would they get that? Hispanic immigrant laborers being legal aliens working on the new trump building don't know they want to be around him or work for him. I mean That's an issue right there. We should investigate trump. Does he have any illegals working for him? And again, i'm not even against the average Person that's up here wanting a better life the point is That the large minority

Of the people That are criminals or milk of the system need to be kicked out I mean, if you if you can't kick them out, then you don't even have a country This is chumpville. We're talking about I mean, I can't go to mexico or guatemala or nicaragua or el salvador or columbia or venezuela Or brazil or chili. Let's just go south and show up and ask for free stuff. They will laugh at you

But you got these big banks and globalist groups that are financing I mean jp morgan runs the food stamp program makes the money off of it Takes the taxpayer money. They're behind it all Donald trump signature collection made in mexico Yeah, and I think donald trump will argue. Yeah, those are good seamstress people working in mexico I'm all for trade. I'm all for open business because they're now going after him saying he's a hypocrite making stuff in mexico I actually buy coffee from mexico because it's the best coffee according to my palate and it helps local farmers I'm not against

Helping people in mexico. That's the answer But you just said you were But now the media is going after anything. Don't believe all the where was that article from that's interesting find That Huffington post and what are they saying? Let me see the headline please Donald trump gets his stuff made in mexico by those lazy people. He didn't say that he said the bad Are coming up here in some cases Internet reminds donald trump his signature collection is made in mexico

Yeah, that's what i'm seeing from huffington post and in raw story is like Hispanics are hurt the donald trump says they're lazy Donald trump didn't say that i'm sick of you liars. It's incredible. It's incredible Amazing so he's created a straw man of the argument that trump made is that mexicans are lazy That's because it's the easiest stereotype that alex can grab on to of course That's not what people were responding to at all. So he responds to this fake argument Uh to create victimhood for trump and victimhood for himself He's starting to see the way that the media treats donald trump

And it mirrors the way the media treats alex and i think that he is internalizing that What's fascinating to me there is he goes Why is everybody thinking that donald trump is a hypocrite just because he has and then earlier in that very same clip He's like maybe we should find out if he has a legals working for him right and you're like no you you You did alex alex You did that Bad You did that but also the reason people talked about him being a hypocrite for having his clothes made in foreign countries

Is that his whole platform was america first america first and great again? Yeah, so that's the reason that people were clowning on him for that and understandably they should have Yeah, well, it's because it's hypocritical and yeah and stupid and it's Ridiculous the argument that he got a good deal Doing that isn't a good argument That doesn't work No, you got a good deal because if you care part of the deal He's a deal maker

But if you care about america at all and you care about coffee From the chiapas farmers. What's what's the best coffee for my palette? I don't know I go ethiopian yurga chef But be that as it may uh, uh I go folgers Sure tastes like balls America first folgers coffee Uh, so I mean that's just I think that's pretty interesting because I Legitimately do think that he's starting to see the way people treat trump is like that's similar to how people treat me

Hmm. I don't think it's enough to get him on board yet because obviously it's not no, but it's there's trends Some gerald salenti style trends that are starting to bubble up once he starts defending trump then it's it's a pretty short walk Right once you start once you start defending a guy. He's gonna become your guy No, because he's still just defending the words. He's still attacking the man He's still saying that I don't trust him Even if he is defending him But I think that there's subconscious forces that are going on inside alex that he might not even be aware of Now be that as it may

Like love I told you that july 7th was a weird fucking episode and here's why presented without comment We have been warned We have been warned We have been threatened. We have been told your official channels unofficial channels threats you name it stop investigating sandy hook

Now when this first happened a few years ago I didn't come out of the gate saying it was a false flag. Yes, he did And I got criticized by a lot of our listeners who were smart folks and who went and really investigated That hey alex you need to look at this again All I know Is that the official story doesn't add up And that when retired state police officers and school investigation experts and school safety experts and others began to investigate it

They were threatened No emergency helicopters were sent The ambulances came an hour and a half later and parked down the road DHS an hour and a half later with a time stamp put up signs saying sign in here They had porta potties being delivered within an hour and a half. It looked like a carnival Looked like a big pr stunt came out that bloom bird a day Before sent an email out to his gun control groups in all 50 states saying prepare to roll We're a major operation coming up that came out in the news

It didn't we have the emails from city council back and forth and the school talking about it being shut down a year before Nope We have the school then being demolished and the records being sealed. Yep, we have videos That look just just incredibly suspicious where people are laughing and everything and they start huffing and puffing and start crying on tv Which is pure acting method. You've got a degree Rob in theater. I mean, this is this is something that that that even lay people notice So I began to investigate

So here's a couple important things to break down here All of those things that he brought up have been explained and debunked right if you look into them The person that he's talking about the school investigator who's been threatened is a guy named wolf gang hell big How big now if you look that is that name alone is enough to threaten him if you look into him He is a con artist. Okay. He is a guy who is raised crazy amounts of money In quote-unquote investigating sandy hook. He's a guy who has offered bounties for proof that of various things throughout the years

And people have provided proof and he's been like no not real He's been like i'll give you a thousand dollars if you can give me a picture of x y and z People show up give him pictures and he's like no not good enough. No doesn't have metadata on the image That's a good racket. Yeah, it totally is. That's a good racket. He is an absolute con artist He's been harassing the family members of the the children who died It's it's disgraceful He makes the argument that the kids who allegedly died were the ones who were at the super bowl who got to sing Uh, I can't remember who they sang with Jennifer Hudson. I refuse to even

Engage with the words you just said forensic specialists have uh documented that absolutely those aren't the same kids What what there's no, right? No, who cares? I refuse No, I don't Here's why would you need to bring? Oh, I know where we're gonna hide these kids next to jennifer hudson at the super bowl. Fuck you. That's lesser magic That's dumb lesser magic dumb now. Here's the next thing the idea the the story that alex jones keeps pushing whenever he brings up Sandy hook is that michael bloomberg Because he wants to take everyone's guns the night before told everybody it's time to ride

Right as if he knew as if he also was Leading a posse in the old west. Sure. I've looked at I've looked into this I've I've I've tried to find evidence of this. I can't find any evidence on any reputable news source I can't find any evidence of this even on disreputable news sources I can't find any article even about this on info wars so you can just make this make this shit up I found one article on info wars about mich bloomberg and how he wants to take your guns and he was ready for sandy hook Now the article links to another article

About how after the aurora shooting the batman shooting right michael bloomberg made a very serious effort In order to push gun control because he was shocked and horrified because you know, people died yet another senseless shooting Yeah, and if you look at mike bloomberg's history one of the big things that he focuses on And what seems to be a real big issue for him is avoidable deaths So it's People like to clown about how he tried to outlaw big sodas. You know giant sodas in new york Yeah, but the reason is sugar kills a lot of people that don't need to die right as like this delicious fago cotton candy Jesus christ, right, but so the gun the gun stuff matches up very

Close with a lot of his philosophies about deaths that don't need to happen don't need to happen Right. So after the aurora shooting he did try and put together some uh, some organizations some allies To work on gun control And that's the only evidence that they uh, they offer at all. Yeah, that was that was all set up the day before sandy hook I think it was like three or four months before sandy hook and so whenever sandy hook did end up happening Of course he was prepared To he didn't talk to people the night before with for knowledge right now the most important Also, why would you even need to set one up? You can just wait there's going to be another mass shooting

Right, and I think like you don't need why would you have why would you ever need? To false flag of mass shooting, but I think just wait a week I think that's why bloomberg started making moves after the aurora one knowing that eventually something's going to happen Of course we should be prepared to Help alex laying out that evidence Is it sounds like if oj defended himself in his trial just like Yeah, no, this is true. It's weak. Yeah, this is bullshit. So this isn't why this is super fucked up We're gonna get into why but I want you to uh, take note of one thing

From that clip that is very important. He's talking to rob do who is now resurfaced He's he's gotten back from his detox to get all that Supermail out of him at the end of that clip He says you have a degree in theater Rob do isn't a journalist. He has a degree in theater Is it masters? I don't know does he have an mfa? I don't know. I want to know I'm just going based on what alex just said. I want to know can he teach he's not Trained in journalism

He is a theater major and he is a terrible actor. Yeah, he's very uh, he does not have that it No, no, he should have he should have changed focuses So alex has laid out some real bad evidence in terms of sandy hook, but The real story here. It'd be nice to discover that rob do is actually an amazing play, right? Like he's just so good. This is some deep cover research or what? He is an amazing vibrant super interesting guy who's playing boring. Oh Man, that could be he maybe he's a terrible actor or maybe he's the best actor possible But you know what he has family members and that's something that is important. He's daniel do lewis. That's what's

We're gonna get into rob do's family now, but now You're uncle john do navy seal Retired fbi agent works for successful security company I Had missed this episode of the nightly news back on june 4th and then again last week when you did an update And then I heard you talking about it yesterday I knew that we'd sent our reporter dan badandi there for days to cover the city council hearings about it And the fact that they're sealing everything

And then you just said oh, yes, and that's why I'm trying to get my uncle to tell me more Because he's been in john goddy hearings and been involved in huge cases a pretty prominent fbi agent before he retired And in his words, he said he's seen the most secretive mafia stuff ever and he's never seen people more closed-lipped He's never seen something where it it basically stinks So rob do's uncle is investigating sandy hook. Why is a navy seal in Former fbi guy too though. Okay. Yeah. All right. Former fbi agent who investigated mobs All right is up there in sandy hook connecticut. I call bullshit totally I call utter bullshit, but he was there. He was at the hearing

Okay, uh, and we'll get to the actual interview that they air with john do Robby's uncle. Okay dan badandi and then they have tim do Sleepy do angry do morning do yeah mountain do uh, so Uh, they're going on a lot. They're they're they're Taking something very small and spreading it out to be something major as big as it could be

And the reality of what they could they couldn't they shouldn't report this no because it's nothing They should make 10 different types of t-shirt my uncle was in connecticut That's the news So here we go, let's just get through some of these clips because it's nonsense a connecticut yanky in sandy hooks court Let's ask your opinion your gut level Without getting into the personalities involves You can clearly see they're scared the wagons are circled. They could just release all this. There is no paper Yo, there is no that's what they it's all so I mean I guess totally made up with green screens everything

I'm we've got them on green screens. I mean what is going on here on That's how evil these people are is that they can have cnn involved all these people It's like a Manhattan project of the gun grabbers. I love that a Manhattan project of the gun grabbers the gun grabbers But so based on what he's saying is I can't believe they're this evil You'd have to have so many people involved and which is pretty much the reason why it's very unreasonable to think Yeah, but again right there in that clip, uh, alex In present day claims that he never said sandy hook was fake He never said all that we have that we have the one clip we routinely play where he says

No one died. It was all actors and here he's doing a half hour segment on the june 7th 2015 show july 7th, excuse me so I want to see robert redford star and the gun grabbers I think that would be a good one not daniel do louis. No, no, no, definitely not daniel do louis So this next clip we get to the actual interview with uh, it seems like a 70s movie. Yeah, probably No, I think it's a spaghetti wester. It's a it's a sequel to the sting. Yeah There was a sequel to the sting. Oh, was there? Yeah, there was the sting too. Any good? Nope So in this next clip we get to the actual interview with john dew and crack reporter dan badandi

Who has no longer never heard that name before? I don't think he's around anymore. But anyway, here we go dead I mean ladies and gentlemen, we are on to something big here. Let's go ahead and go part of this clip with your uncle This is john dew Our news directors, uh, uncle that we just suddenly see at the sandy hook hearing with our reporter. Uh, here's dan badandi I don't know what you think, uh, you win us the whole hearing And here's my uncle with commentary. No, no, but if we're in here today, what did you think of the whole thing? Very strange very strange situation. Yes Yeah, no, so what do you expect to come out of this? You think they gotta try cover this up or is this gonna go anyway?

I really don't know. I've never seen anything like this before And again, I wish I'm glad badandi was there a great job and I wish it would have gone on more. Yeah. Yeah, no shit Badandi was the one badandi is the guy who sounds like he's from jersey. Yes. Yes How do you take a man like that seriously? I don't know There's a reason that most reputable news organizations don't send some but don't send a man on the street interview out there with like Hey, what do you feel about obama doing this stuff? Huh? Hey, uh, what do you think? Hey You think this is a cover up? Yeah, I think it might be a cover up You think this is a cover up. Yeah, I know. I mean look even the local chicago news doesn't have people suddenly

But be that as a which they fucking should but totally I would watch. Oh, absolutely But so we've got Danny calluses a man on the street interviewer. We've got uh 10 second clip where all he says is this is weird never seen anything like this before which could mean I've never seen anything this Horrifying I've never seen something this tragic could mean any number of things and they're just extrapolating it because There's private conversations that rob do has had with his uncle Which don't spell out anything more private conversations So if alex at this point tries to get rob do to give a quote About these private conversations, but it's such a good idea if you're a bullshit artist

Uh to not ask direct questions like in the press pool at the white house whenever they're asking john spicer those in name pointless questions if you just got Like if you just got a direct answer from somebody then you have to engage with that, but if you're like badandi Uh, then you can just ask a random ask question and he says Could be and that's that means that you can say whatever you want you can just go wherever he thinks it's fake Yeah, exactly. So like I said alex is pushing for some inside information about the conversation that rob do had with his uncle Right, and there's some true comedy in this clip where alex Sort of tries to explain what rob do's job is a little bit

This is really funny. He wasn't saying a lot, but he's like, you know, robert. This is strange I've never seen anything like it never seen anything like it and he's been in court cases It's not like his friend. He said he also said it doesn't add up. Oh, yeah. Well. Yeah, nothing adds up It adds up. What was his exact quote because I want to put up an article Uh, I would say take that from there. I was sure but even though he explains something your reporter, right You're a news director. This is your uncle. It's incredible for you to quote somebody Go back to the memory. What did he say? I'll I'll think about the exact words but

I'm getting from what I remember because I was in the car driving while I was talking to him I had a earpiece. I understand talking to him Because I wanted to get something out of him before we did because we did the show that night on the four That day on the fourth and I wanted to talk about it. I said, hey, I've got this short interview with you You know and you're saying it's strange. It doesn't add up He's like I've I've never been in a court proceeding like that ever where people don't know anything Alex is sick of the bullshit. He wants he wants him to just come up with a quote And he's saying I don't really remember what exactly he said. Fuck it. It's credible. You're the news director. Just say whatever

Yeah, exactly. That's such bad journalistic ethics. It's it's less It's less like tell me the truth and more like make up something good asshole that what do you think I pay you for? You have credibility. You're the news director make up something. Yeah, just just lie In a good way. Yeah, and all rob do will say is the stuff that comes from that 10 second video Yeah, you should have a degree in improv training because then he could have yes He ended even the stuff that he says that he said in a private conversation is just the same stuff That's in that dan badandi clip. Yeah, there's nothing here. He said he's never seen anything like this in the court proceedings Now Alex and he's been in court cases before he has how many court cases all of them everyone

That's how we know that he's never seen anything like that totally and that's a credible report So alex at this point is sick of the bullshit and so here is uh him sort of giving uh rob do some shit This is this is also pretty funny. So where does he live up there? Yeah He lives up, but he doesn't live in connecticut. He lives, um south of new york city Oh Anyway, come on. It's not a secret agent thing The people that did sandy hook knows where your uncle lives. I'm sure they do. Yeah, it's like ne'lary nickles gives his home address That's like, yeah, he's just like just fuck it. Tell me where your uncle lives. You dumbass

So he lives in new jersey. Jesus christ. He lives south of new york Oh, you mean jersey I love that but that also the other important thing there is just phrasing because he's like the people who did sandy hook Know where your uncle lives, which is implying that there are people who did sandy hook Yeah, the people who did it. Yeah. So alex, we know what you believe you're busted. Uh, there's no way around this you I mean, we have now two episodes where you just straight up Do exactly what you claim you didn't do about sandy hook and I believe we've at least touched on it on three other episodes as well Totally and this episode he also talks about uh, how everyone thinks that he said jade helm was real

But he's like, I didn't say it was real. I said it's conditioning And I don't care to go back and dig through all the episodes and find out where he actually said jade helm is real We can assume. Yeah, based on the fact that he's so far so far We've had a 100 batting average whenever going back whenever he says whenever I didn't say this We're like, oh, and it was this day if he says it's in the mainstream news Everybody knows. Yeah, that means it's not true. If he says I didn't say it. He fucking said it He totally said it. So we're done with july 7th And now we move to july 8th, right?

And one of the important things that I don't have audio of uh, just because it's long and boring is in this episode Alex expresses Some pretty strong support for nigel ferrage and the u-kip not good At this point considering how nigel is now part of the fbi investigation into russian hacking This is not great is almost certainly roger stone's back channel to julie nasage. You think so I would say almost a hundred percent. Okay the fact that uh nigel ferrage has been seen going to the embassy And when he was questioned when he came out of the embassy, what were you doing in there? He said, I don't remember Oh, yeah, what right when he came out of the ecuadorian embassy like he walked into the ecuadorian embassy

Did a thing. Yeah, and when he left the ecuadorian embassy people were like, what are you doing in there? He forgot what it was. He was doing in there. I have no idea what I was doing. So we can assume It's not good julie nasange Hypnotist totally that makes no he has that man in black thing. Oh, yeah, there we go Two men in black references on the same episode guys. You're all getting policy wonk material for free Can we make a hat trick? We'll see So he expresses and at this point, uh, the uh brexit hasn't happened yet, right? So

Nigel ferrage is just a Four-time failed politician whack job anti immigration anti e.u Uh kind of guy right which makes sense like dick, but it makes sense why alex would be onto into him You know, he's like he's a white nationalist There are similarities between the two of their worldviews But it's important that we bring that up because it does feed into my crazy theory that i'll be getting to at the end Yes, this is one of the important building blocks the grand unified field theory of right wing propaganda Well much like how on our last episode we showed that alex was super into jeff sessions even before he was a part of trump's campaign

Right, it's important that we have this pre brexit pre trump involvement with nigel ferrage Uh in with uh alex alex is into him right and apparently he's been on the show before I don't have I don't have episodes I haven't heard any episodes where ferrage is on but he apparently has been a guest It's like we're doing the marvel universe team up like we're doing the uh the films that they used to set up the avengers Yeah, like that's what's going on right now kind of is yeah, we're let's call nigel ferrage Thor let's do that Because he's he's from a different country. He's a fish out of water in america. This should be suicide squad backstory or something Because they're bad guys, but then also it's very disappointing

The end result is it's a very yeah, okay There we go. Nigel ferrage is sending his cast members used condoms Right So uh on july 8th He talks a lot about collapse the jacari jackson is of course will smith because he's so much better than the shit But he's also someone who quit the movie. Yeah, it's like if will smith said i'm out. Yeah. Yeah. No, i'm not doing this shit anymore so uh On july 8th one of the news stories that alex covers is that the chinese stock market took a little bit of a dip

Uh, and he claims that this is proof that the collapse collapse is here by gold Apparently also the our stock market went down not like price wise but trading stopped after the chinese stock market went down numerically And the the story that the stock market people gave was that it was a technical glitch He believes that it's the globalists coming in to stop the market from being destroyed I think the reality is that the thing that we've discussed in the past a bunch Is that so much trading is done on a micro scale by robots?

And they shut down the markets because these robots would misinterpret things and start selling all shit And you would have an artificial collapse right basically read michael louis's book on uh, uh the Electronic trading. Yeah, so I think that that's the most likely scenario and it's nothing nefarious It's just we have to save the ship so shut it down Because these robots are going to destroy the market, right? So alex thinks thinks there's something evil going on, but again, he's just using it to push selling gold So by gold it's not all that interesting

But what is interesting is he does get back to talking about trump a tiny bit on this episode I live in austin texas, uh the oh do you I haven't heard beautiful Heart of this republic Filled with people I want to kill and pun failures that couldn't make it in california and other states Who disgust me? They disgust me lecturing us on their ways of regulations and rating people's funds and

destroying society Where and they're running around celebrating in the streets downtown Donald trump donald trump people walk up ha ha. How do you like it? Donald trump's been discredited as if that even matters. It's all just the faux Story the rebel flag the donald trump the katelin jenner will he have his Member removed. I mean this is like a pcp hallucination Yeah, what do you think your boy trumps in trouble?

And I go donald trump's never been my boy. I think he's a ringer. Oh, yeah, sure You're losing right now. You're losing you're losing you're losing I'm like, I know actually what he's saying is the truth Mexico's collapsed in a total crime wave. I mean, are you denying the illegal alien crime wave? You people never get it Your time's over your time's over and you'll be looking at some liberal with Non-matching socks if they wear like they're god, I don't care if you're wearing non-matching socks. I don't understand a handlebar mustache

I don't care But the fact that you have it you think you've now like attained godhood that you're so ignorant You don't know what july 4th is But you're running around celebrating. We're the democrats. We're winning donald trump's in trouble While the global stock market's molting down while they put cancer viruses in the vaccines and prepare forced inoculations And feed us gmo's that sterilize every mammal species that's fed them within three generations I don't We're now into the second generation of eating this stuff. Our fertility is almost gone. Sperm counts are down 90 plus percent

The IQ's are about 14 points cancer's up 3 000 plus percent on average. Diabetes is almost 3 000 percent Actually, is there an end to this? And you're too busy sucking your thumb having full imaginary victories watching mr. Maddow. What? What is it? You don't get about this jackass that i've transcended all your fake left right garbage We're under globalist total attack and you can't even figure it out. Is your too busy watching television and obsessing over the rebel flag all day I legitimately don't get why you're confused What is he just fun? What was he saying? I think it speaks for itself. I don't know what it's I don't know what itself is

We've lost 90 of our sperms I don't know what he's Was there was there track that track any of that from start to finish? Okay? Uh, there's I want to play that again just to figure out where we start. I can't it's three minutes long I know So the I it was endless So we could portion it off into sort of two parts right the first part is people are taunting him believing that he's on Board with trump right because spiritually he is of course even though he's not

He does mirror a lot of trump's negative the things that people are mad about trump about they're mad about alex four two Exactly, so a lot of people are conflating it and that's the first part him sort of realizing through everyone else's Judgment I guess that he is Oh, i'm a liberal he's compatriots with trump in as much as people attack them similarly Because they're both bigoted right the second part is Trump is a distraction in the same vein as complaining about the the flag the battle flag or katelyn jenner Complaining about those things are the exact same thing as trump. He's a distraction. He's not my boy. I don't care about him It's just a distraction and the more important thing is that the globalists are attacking us and killing our sperms

and gmo foods kill the popular the uh The reproductive capacity of mammal species within three generations and we're in the second Oh, okay. Now I get it. There we go makes perfect sense now right now that you've just condensed that three minute barrage of People who wear different types of socks think they're gods Also, I didn't have time to do this just because of my schedule But I was gonna make a super cut of all the times he talks about mismatched socks He talks about it a lot. Really? Yeah, it comes up in like three episodes during this time span

He's mentioned it. Did he just see like one guy with mismatched socks and then he's like I can't fucking handle this Absolutely. He talked about it on another episode that we've done in the past too It seems to be hit like handlebar moustache mismatched socks. That's a trendy That's sort of like his go-tos and the other one is uh, he believes that liberals and trendies love islam because they smoke hukas Of course, that's sort of like his way of being really reductive and not having to wrestle with anything right so Yeah, that that's pretty dumb, but it still indicates that as of july 8th Alex jones believes that donald trump is completely

He's a distraction. He's a ringer. He's a ringer for hillary. He's there to distract uh from her emails and her Crimes to make sure that rand paul doesn't get it. Yeah globalists now We'll get to a specific prediction that alex jones is making that did not come to pass but this is certainly Setting the stage going into the winter as i've told everybody for the big one In 20 years of broadcast I've never gotten up here like i've done the last six months and said i feel a disturbance in the force

The last time i felt it was in 1929 We'll be back ladies and gentlemen wait what? Wait, no He's immortal, isn't he he might be he's immortal. He might be he's a trickster demon. It could be this is loki We found our loki done This is this is some fucking neil game and shit right here So he specifically made the claim that the big one the big collapse is coming this winter which he's pushed back from summer Well, it was coming during the summer, but now we're into july and it hasn't happened just push it back

Yeah, it's coming this winter and he hasn't felt this way since 1929. He's speaking metaphorically. I don't think he's actually immortal I think he's immortal, but you know what that means that means in 2008. He didn't see it coming at all No, not important. So there's that not important the last really big collapse that happened Uh Well, all right, alex. Well, it wasn't as big as the one in 1929 and it really wasn't as big as the one in uh 1874 whenever he uh Well, that was when he continued fighting the civil war by himself. Right, uh, then whenever he was actually fighting in the revolutionary war There was a collapse of the the pound back then. Yeah, uh, then whenever he was fighting the Gauls

For caesar there was a collapse there on one episode. I am fairly certain that he is shan connery in uh, He's the highlander. He's well. He trains the highlander in one episode I don't remember where it was but he says that he's related to the tutors and then also On another episode on the another episode. He said he's related to nathan bedford forest the confederate general Okay, and he said he's related to the person who invented the stock market He's like one of those annoying kids who's like, yeah, well, I'm I'm from I'm descended from cleopatra. Yeah What the fuck are you talking about all these disparate pieces like oh no, my lineage goes back I am I am of kings. Well statistically, isn't it something like if it's eight generations back

We're all related to everybody or something along those lines and literally almost everybody is related to genghis khan Yeah, exactly genghis khan has like 80 percent of the population Five percent of china's population is entirely descended from genghis khan. It's more than that. I think I have something like that Anyway, we're now done with july 8th kind of boring just a lot of collapsed stuff that we've talked about in the past And now we get on to july 9th and july 9th. I this is what I think is illustrative illustrative I think it's illustrative about alex jones' style as a broadcaster Is that he rarely stays on the same topic for more than a day right he goes from

Collapse he goes sandy hook one day collapse the next day and on to july 9th this episode is When he debuts his line of zubas might as well This episode is all about this mtv show that what is fucking happening? Well, there there was a preview that came out for an mtv show called white people All right, and all right in the show. There was a guy. I can't remember his name, but he's uh He's a reporter used to work for the washington post and he set out to make white people

understand the nature of white privilege and understand Systems of oppression these sorts of things The trailer for the show is mostly white kids crying And alex is i like it alex is furious about anything that makes white kids cry I'm on board with he spends almost the entire episode complaining about this show It's complete lunacy, but before he does at the beginning of the episode. He's got something else stuck in his crawl He has something else stuck up on his crawl, which is uh The gay agenda. Oh, you well. Yeah, of course. This is somner redstone

Viacom through nicolodeon and mtv sexualizing children Remember viacom five six years ago admitted in a corporate press release. They were going to target pre-teens With transgender and homosexual messages It's pedophilia I mean imagine saying we're going to target your kids with heterosexual sex messages when they're six years old You'd be like that's pedophilia keep your hands off our kids When calvin Klein shows, you know, 15 16 year olds scantily clad they call it pedophilia It's creepy, but not really that

But when you target five or six year olds And it's the gay agenda then it's okay to teach him How to do stuff i didn't even know about till i was an adult I mean it is just twilight zone level So one alex jones didn't suck a dick till he's 19. Okay. He did. Okay nicolodeon. We covered this Calm it down. We covered it on a past episode. He had sex with 150 women before he was 16 Right, but he didn't have sex with another man till he was 19 fair enough

See, he didn't even know about that. So the the important thing there though is the massive Disconnect and misunderstanding that he has about the idea Of making queer kids feel okay, right making people feel normal Who are normal? Uh, he doesn't he doesn't understand that has nothing to do with sexualizing people or sex at all Also, what do you mean if you send a six year old sex messages? A six year old can turn on tv That's true. There's so much. That's what he's talking about so much. But yeah, but that's what i'm saying

You can find tv. It's made for adults and find a lot of sex in it. You can watch franklin and bash Yeah, well exactly. Yeah, you're getting heterosexual sex messages all the fucking time from everywhere Alex just doesn't notice it because it doesn't matter Largely, it's normal to him a lot of the stuff that he's decrying here Is sort of the ideas of making Characters who are gay or lesbian or trans well, they shouldn't be we shouldn't see them creating positive role models No, we shouldn't have positive He doesn't he just doesn't feel shame. He doesn't understand misery. He doesn't understand that people have these

identities from very young ages It's not something that comes up. Well, I mean sometimes I guess it can be people discover things later in life But a lot of the time people Before they even understand what gender is know that they're different or know that something doesn't match Well, the stats that we talked about on a previous episode talking about Trans identity from young ages What you pointed out was everybody who identified as trans once they were in their teen years Yeah, a hundred percent went on to identify the same way. Yeah preteen. It was like 40 percent or whatever

Something along those lines. I don't remember the specifics. Um, but that is that is the thing like there. You can know Yeah, you can be From the get-go and the other thing that he doesn't understand is you should be accepted for it You shouldn't be made to feel shame all day every day. Well, that's the other thing that he doesn't understand is that there's a difference between Encouraging someone to do something and being okay with them doing something and being something It's like having having messaging that is Is gay positive? Trans positive isn't to say hey kid. You should be trans. Yeah. No, that's what I say every morning

It's just to say If you are that's cool. You should feel fine about it. What I do is I go to elementary schools and I pass out a Transgender surgery coupons. Sure, you know, they're fake and I'm like hey hey kid You should be a girl Stop it. All joking. You should be a girl all joking aside on this episode Alex legitimately pretends that that's what doctors do. Oh, okay. Well, then I hope he goes and fucks himself We'll get to that. I hope a doctor removes his penis and then inserts it into his own asshole

Repeatedly we'll get to we'll get to that actually in this next. I want to shellack Alex Jones's balls Here rub them on his face Here is a clip that is weird It is a long rant. It has to do with race and has to do with trans shit has to do with Cult conditioning and it is a mess. So he's he's just trying to get he's trying to fit it all in Yeah, and he's angry. Is it is a what is it like the end of the hour or something? He's like, oh, I've been talking about mtv too long. Better get back on the transphobic hatred. This is inspired still from the mtv stuff. Okay, but uh

Uh, that's more race based. I guess that is part of this too. Here we go. Just listen. How many legal alien on tv with a bunch of sappy weak white kids with trendy socialist parents up here flogging themselves about how bad they are Ah Just you ever seen those stickers where Somebody's a ford and they're peeing on a Chevy or vice versa. I mean, that's it. You're down on the ground and right in your face They're just gonna teach you to take it all Unbelievable And you ain't seen nothing yet. Let's go to this video clip. Paul watches joining us in 30 minutes 40 minutes

Fuck you. Paul watch the bottom of the next hour And then Joe Biggs has the interview in texas doctors offices You're bringing your daughter and your son. They go, man, will you talk to him alone? Thank you You want to identify as another sex little girl What's that mean you ever feel like a boy Does your mom wear pants? She just she like a man Bring the boy in now. You want to be a little girl? This man imagine you're a park some old guy walks over and goes hey little girl

You feel like a boy sometimes But see now it's the school. So it's loving it Prove yourself sacrifice your children to the system. Take the shots eat the gmo Go to mcdonald's drink the fluoride and then let the creepy doctor Who's who's a social warrior and proud of themselves Stopping the inequality breaking it down With your child. It's their child now We've got to break through this idea that kids belong to their parents. No now the kids belong to all of us

Forward Like all the other cult videos you've seen Their eyes get real saucer lean forward A carl marx term No, and the public can't even find their buck with both hands doesn't know what independence day is Does it know what cult programming is? Do you understand folks? Like this is cult programming. That's this isn't liberal. This is a conservative. This is freak show See they have to bring down the military that'll be their final enemy

The military will help bring the tyranny in and then it will be destroyed Because before the rise of the machines and the merger with the elite and the life Before that can happen They have to take out men Men in the womb are selected genetically from a female prototype To be a combat mechanism and a hunting mechanism to defend the nesting areas It's like that in what almost all mammal and bird species But not lizards. This is an attack on the species once they've taken the men down which they've basically already done

The machines the ai All the appliances everything it's just over So just I warned you. I tried my best and um, I can't believe you allow them I feel like I'm drowning in his six-year-olds. They want it's a litmus test The gauntlet's here and they've got white people on mtv This is because MTV had white people crying. Yep. This is because MTV Had white people crying. That's sort of the starting. So now we're going into Doctors. Uh-huh want you to be whatever gender you're not right? Uh,

Because you're eating GMOs taken vaccines. Yeah, mcdonald's Then it's directly to the rise of the machines. Well, not directly. There's a little bit of an interstitial of what I don't know Yeah, exactly. Well, you directly from the rise. No, because he gets then into that melissa harris perry quote about the community having a responsibility for children Yeah, but he says he says lean forward and he's like that's a mark. That's a car. Mark's Hey, how? Hey, buddy. How about drain the swamp is from musselini? How about that? How about that alex? Don't point that out. But be that as it may the the thing I want his his idea of biology and evolution is Bananas. It's fascinating though. I where did he learn that? That's the least weird part of that whole ring No, but I want to know more about that on some level

I because everything else is insane like everything else is dismissive. That's a theory Yeah, this is him like completely misunderstanding reality like just basic biology like he just doesn't have any clue Well, you start from the kernel of we were all Female and then some became male in the womb. That is a biological prototype for hunting Defending the nest Yes He doesn't understand happens with all mammals and birds not at all. He doesn't understand not even close Understand that largely all of that is like a cultural construct. It's all like even in humans. That's not the case made up

So stupid, but at the same time, it's fascinating. I know that part's fascinating The other stuff is just bigotry. What? Yeah, what is the rise of the machines is terminator? There's no other way to look at that then Hey, it's like he's describing a cartoon Like that's what he just described. He described like a felix the cat cartoon from the 1930s. Yeah, or whenever Color started happening or whatever But but god damn it. What where did he learn that about biology? I don't know who taught him that That's the least like what then what dentist father would be like, okay

Let me tell you about how let me tell you the story of the birds and the beast What junior college class that he dropped out of did he learn that in? So the other thing though is he's doing all this like hey little girl Do you want to be a boy? That was that was very creepy and he mentions that uh, Joe bigs has a report on it and he does at the end of the episode where he interviews a lady who went into a hospital And she uh, all she tells him is that the doctor asked her daughter Are you a girl? That's it. Yeah, which is a reasonable question to ask. It's sort of a silly question

I remember getting questions like that from doctors They have they ask children Simple questions and stuff like that in order to create a report with them right that's very simple because they're a stranger Yeah Oh, how old are you? They know how old they are how many times how many times is like a six-year-old come up to you and said I'm a girl and you're like, okay fucking fine. I don't give a shit die Yeah, but that's a very strange reaction from me

It doesn't even have to do necessarily with some sort of nefarious trans agenda It has to do with a doctor. Do you mean a made up? Trans right, but it but it has more to do with a doctor with probably clunky bedside manner more than anything else Who thinks he's a god? Right, but that's the that's like the moral who's injecting Autism giving fluoride mcdonald's slurry into your child But joe biggs does this terrible report that is just way off and really awful Uh, and alex uses it to be even more awful He uses it to be

Artie, but what is I can't even do that voice anymore. It's really starting to hurt my throat Why I just I I just don't understand I don't understand how you can turn that into something nefarious What do you mean? I mean that that idea of Well again one what goal I guess I guess the goal he's destroying men is that it's destroying men And confusing everybody creating more vulcanization Because now you have trans issues that whereas we just used to have race and gender and well gender already was right now

Right, right. It's stupid. It's just he thinks everything that is not uh supportive of white heterosexual christian identity is divide and conquer strategies. That is it. That's what he thinks Do you know what I here's the theory that I've started Putting together the more like we're we're not hateful Creatures you and I the no, I think I think human beings Okay, like people talk about how the internet has divided us and my theory is more becoming

Look at how far you have to go to deny your own human empathy Okay, look at how look at how twisted and and like look at how big this Ideology has to be for him to just say I'm freaked out by trans people Because I don't because they do a thing that's not he has to have the foundation of globalists are trying to In order to just hate somebody who hasn't done anything to him. That's a good point But he has a knee jerk hatred. But you're also not taking Into account with that how much he needs cover

That's he needs to protect his business industry. And so he couldn't say those things without people being like, okay Fuck you. God, I just wish I just wish he would come out and say like Hey, it makes me feel uncomfortable because I don't understand it. Yeah, it is so far outside my world It threatens my belief in the world and I have a rigid set of beliefs that I can't be flexible about at all And that's something we could talk about it could like I would be interested in having that discussion Like I'm fine if you say to me like I I get uh I my knee jerk reaction to trans people is

Uh revulsion I'm not fine with that because I think it's an okay reaction I'm fine with that because you're just expressing How you feel that's and you don't really you don't really have a a If you don't have any framework for that like I grew up in a small town If I just stayed in that small town forever where it's just me staring at a bunch of white people who look like me And then I see something that is so far outside of that like someone with mismatched socks. Yeah, exactly Somebody that's just a freak. Yeah, somebody that's just got a handlebar moustache. Right, right like

Of course your your basic tribal instinct is like, oh, that's an enemy or something along those lines But what you're describing is essentially why it's important for people to go to college It's important for people to go away to college. It's important for people to just go other places Yeah, it and you should have crises like it is exactly it's important for you to Have those feelings and then be confronted with reality and grow through it That's what i'm saying because quite frankly. I thought trans people were super weird when I was like 12 or 13 I thought it was incredibly fucked up and that's because most of my context for it was listening to love line And adam corolla is very anti trans. Yeah, he is he's super like it's just weirdo dudes

And stuff like that And so that was my context for everything until I met some people who identified as trans and I had conversations And watched some documentaries and looked into it a bit more and I had a crisis of Oh, I don't trust this adam corolla that I've listened to for so long Of course and you grow through it exactly and that's that's what i'm saying if he could just admit that Then have a converse and then like just experience those things. Yeah, just grow that'd be fine But by but by hiding behind all of this globalist shit That's how he can get away with having a conversation with a trans person who is completely and utterly

Uh normal and reasonable and all of those things but his argument would be never deal with it Because of the globalist framework his argument would be like, oh, you are totally normal and that's fine It's unfortunate that they've tricked you into this Exactly, but and and and that's the way that he will never that's his and that's the same thing that White people do hiding behind like the I don't care if you're white or black or whatever. It's like no you do Just admit you care and then we can deal with it. We're also getting to I think why it's dangerous for people who are young to listen to Alex jones is because if you do get this brain virus of the globalists and stuff like that into your head too early You don't really have an escape plan. You don't have a hatch. You can get out of ha like with adam corolla's

bigotry I was very able to get away from it because it's Not defended by anything other than out adam corolla's opinions Whereas if adam corolla was saying if he's a magical yarn about there is an evil cabal that is making people do things Because they have a vested interest in destroying masculinity blah blah blah right it would be much more difficult for me Even when confronted with reality To get away from it because there's a mythology behind it's a cult It's a story that you can reinforce again and again and again

And so then that also and let's be clear. This isn't just about trans stuff It's about everything that he talks about no, of course It's it's it's across the board his his philosophies I I like this even though even though they're not applied equally across the board certainly not everything is Everything's negotiable except for private properties self-defense and don't make me feel guilt about being white Well, if you think about even those things take private property out of it because it's like okay Yeah, people own things but you take that second amendment is self-defense and don't make me feel weird is white nationalism So though like that is the things that he's super

Look, this is a good conversation, but we got to move along We got some more clips and you got a you got to get out of here before too long So this next clip we get into more specific feelings that he has about this white people show and unfortunately This is kind of a short clip, but it's alex jones but being mocking about What a lot of people believe the reality about racism is I don't want to be called racist Because there's nothing worse and if you are now you lose your job you get arrested I mean

I mean, what are we gonna do this racist everywhere? It's worse than terrorism al-qaeda I don't think he's coming from a genuine son of the table No, but he's doing a mocking character so he can get out some true feelings that he has that He is afraid of people calling him a racist because that is in his conception a label that people use to take power over you Now the part that I I met the when I said the reality is I believe that racism is a bigger problem than terrorism By a billion. Yeah, and he's doing that mocking voice to sort of uh take discredit that opinion when Is pretty good evidence that terrorism is a very small problem compared to ingrained

Deeply entrenched racist beliefs that we have it is because of these deeply entrenched racist beliefs that our president is actively destroying the world Well, not our president. He's a fucking lunatic. It is the entire GOP So I played that clip also because I wanted to get that uh that you know that foundation Of being called a racist is the worst thing blah blah blah Just in advance of this next clip, which I think is one of the craziest things. Alex Jones has ever said Jose Antonio Vargas the host of the documentary white people is a journalist filmmaker an immigration activist a globalist Born in the Philippines and raised the united states from the age of 12 He was part of the washington post team that won the Pulitzer prize for breaking news reporting in 2008 for coverage of the virginia tech shootings

He's an anti-gunner He wrote produced and directed the autobiographical 2013 documented which cnn filmed broadcast in 2014 And he pushes the dream act to legal for the children legalized the people And during the trailer he will show some of that video right now without audio if you're a tv viewer Budding his eyes out at the white people Say how's it feel to be white, huh? And just the whole time acting super aggressive and angry and then they all get intimidated. Yes. We're bad. We're sorry Oh

I mean, I wish this guy would come to me Because hey, I am like martin luther king. I'm proud of myself I bet you money and martin luther king got beat up quite a few times by racist white people I bet you money I've been attacked by more black people than martin luther king's been attacked by white people And the black people that attacked me were just like the white people that attacked him They were racist they were scum and they thought it was okay to attack me because of my skin color I'm like martin luther king. This guy's a race baiter

He's more akin to the other side of the debate and i'm sick of it And we've been given this guilt so we'll submit to total tyranny You see i'm above you race pimps and you racist And all you grand dragons in the democratic party and the rest of you scum. I really do care about everybody I really do want to stop 52 of black people getting killed for their born I really do want to stop latin american girls being sterilized in a un program with garter cell Which has now been proven to jack these women up because when they attack these innocent people they're attacking me I take it personal

I care about humanity and i'm sick of you globalist following hardcore psych warfare programs meant to bring us down So we're all fighting with each other and they can bring the nation states down and bring in world government That's gonna target everybody So alex jones is like martin luther king dan dan jordan You had a tough time with that. I did not do well with that I did not do well with that. I did take the headphones off for a fair

I think that might have been the first time you've taken the headphones off It was the second it was the second Do you know why it was the second? Do you know why I remember the last time? Because it was very much very similar you son of a bitch. It's very weird. What? It's very weird. It's It's almost convincing For him to say that he does care about everybody like well the number Twisted brain well the number of black people who have been aborted seems to keep shifting

It's 49 percent. It's 51 percent. It's 52 percent. It's I mean, it's all in that ballpark But he does not have a like a straight statistic. He's not he's not quoting anything clearly the number keeps changing It's magic also Gardasil There are negative side effects that can't come up But all of them are much better than cervical cancer. So yeah, you should you should definitely get an hpv vaccine There's a it's a necessity alex likes to play this game where it's like hpv isn't bad It's like that's not the problem hpv and women does lead to cervical cancer often. It's a big deal Doesn't really matter for dudes. It's just warts for dudes

Doesn't really do anything all that terrible But for women it is a very big issue and so the idea that he pretends which is why he doesn't have to care Dan but he pretends that all it does is get rid of hpv not that it Really gets rid of one of the biggest causes of cervical cancer So him saying it mean even he's not being specific about it. Just it jacks these women up it jacks them up What does that mean? It makes them jacked. Okay. Get some small it's a direct It's a direct competitor to super female vitality because you got to get off the market got to get off it So his I understand where you're coming from saying that it's almost convincing

But it's not because he's throwing bullshit spaghetti. Absolutely. No, no when when he does it like I I do think in his mind He believes that he cares about everybody But do you think that he in his mind really believes that he's been beat up as much as martin luther king Do I think he believes it? Yeah. Yes. Well, that's proof that he doesn't know anything. I don't I think he believes it Okay, it's obviously not true. But I think he's I think he's convinced himself of its reality I would ask him if he's ever um

Been imprisoned because he's white I would ask him if he's ever Had people throw bombs at his house. Well, we know he has been uh, he has not been imprisoned because he's white Yeah, definitely a Kkk member, uh as a cop let him go. Well, yeah, we have that evidence. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah So, but the other thing too is like he keeps referring to these fights that he got in as a youth But most of those are street fights. Those of those aren't racially motivated attacks Whether or not they happened at all is still in question. It's very dubious. Yeah, but at the same time

It's he seems to think that these fights that he had a part in getting into Are some sort of racial oppression and they're not They're just him as a kid being obviously full of shit Obviously an asshole. He claims he slept with 150 women before he was 16 He was kicked out of his school for a year from for fighting He's he's a guy who when he was young was I mean, he's embellishing everything except for maybe that being kicked out of school for a year But he's a guy who was like

He he was a problem kid. Yeah, like it's I don't think I bet he did have a couple of times people called him cracker Or something like that. I would believe that but I don't believe that he's been targeted for being white Of course not and it's degrading for him to compare himself. Of course not Martin Luther King It's degrading. It's degrading for everybody, but Nelson Mandela to compare himself to Martin Luther King. Yeah Yeah, so anyway, let's skip out of that. Let's let's move along because our old friend is back Our old friend. Fuck you, Alex. Totally our old friend is fucking christ still on the july 9th episode Our old friend Larry Nichols comes back and it's not even it doesn't even matter how many times he got beat up versus Martin Luther King. That's not the point of Martin Luther King jr. Isn't how many beatings he took

No, totally. That's not the point. Totally. The point is fucking everything else. Sure How that's how do you boil? Boiled down the entire civil rights movement into I think I got beat up more than Martin Luther King jr I think I got that's his entire reality of the entire civil rights movement Was MLK got beat up a bunch and then black people could vote Well, it's because that is the masculine way to look at it. It's the like hyper toxic masculine thing How much do you believe in what you believe in? You're ready to get your ass kicked man

Oh, so let's move on. Let's move on. I'm sorry. Let's move on. Larry Nichols is back my man Okay, stevie larry nicks And he throws a lot of bullshit around about how again alexis our only shot But this time he is fucking soliciting money hard. Okay. He's like nickles is yeah, he's okay. My health is not good I need help and he's just asking for money He spins the narrative that chelsea is not bill clinton's daughter. That's his that's one of his big All right, it's his big narrative, but he drops this one. This is this is our larry nickles moment Of the day alex. What's gonna have to happen?

And I hate to say it The folks there's got to be an education campaign. We've got to reeducate people I like that word even know anymore if we have genes in our bodies that are connected to our Founding fathers. We've drifted so far away, but here's what's gonna come You got two choices right now to Believe it or not our best friends on earth right now are bill and hill Why because obama has his eyes set on turning us into an islamic caliphate

And at that point he would become the leader of islam globally Now the only people strong enough at this point to stop that from happening are the clinton's And then if the clintons get in they were fighting communists But I think we stand a better chance trying to fight communism People running around with their heads being cut off because people will go into submission. Yeah, man Yeah, it's it's so sad to see all these things that larry nickles believes It's such a bummer obama

Is trying to turn What do you even say to that? Please what are you? The denny's is closing. Where do you exactly? Where do you even start with that like sir sir? You have to leave obama is going to become the leader of islam He's trying to start a caliphate. Is he having a stroke? No, but this actually is in line with that interview that he did with mother jones Uh, that he was talking about how uh, the clintons are our only hope of destroying islam because they're cold-blooded Right, this makes perfect sense. So this actually gets but it also contradicts entirely all the other stuff that he says about how clintons

Are the worst people in the world and if hillary gets in she's going to destroy the world She's going to turn us into uh, I mean he describes it as communism here But he describes it as complete destruction of america other places So I mean he is an unreliable. He may be a big fan of hyperbole. It's entirely possible. He needs money He wants to be interesting. So alex will have him back on his show. So people will send him money Does he just think that? Like how would obama become the leader of islam globally just declare it like would it would there be a conversation? Does he already talk with the ayatollah regularly? He must have I mean then we're talking about how does he feel about indonesia?

I mean Larry nickels knows that billions of people who are muslim are not Uh, aren't not from the middle east, right? Probably not. I don't know. He has it like globally Well, like there were there's tons of chinese muslims. There's uh tons of american What would we would obama then have to What there's also different branches of islam that definitely wouldn't all fall under obama See now now i'm playing this out like a civilization game. Don't do it Don't bring don't bring sense into this

Okay, we move every nickels as an idiot two hexagons to the left then it will be in the appropriate place to spread I'd like to I'd like to point out at this point that I haven't like ignored or cut out stuff that he said about trump He still is exactly in the same position. He has been since July 6th, but now We get to july 10th and alex jones is out of studio David knight is hosting and it is our tradition to never listen to david knight. Correct. However, we have to break it. No Yeah, no, I accidentally listen. How did you do that? I accidentally listened to a tiny bit of this because at the beginning

David knight says alex jones will be in later with a special report And so I scanned forward in the episode to try and find it and I couldn't find it I'm not going to listen to the whole thing, but I accidentally found this clip and it is amazing david knight is crazy Now when we were on break, uh, joe jennings came in and told me uh that he went to disney world in the 1970s And he said they had a song of the south Ride that then they later took out. Tell us about it joe But wasn't it? Yeah, um in the 70s, you know, it's as a as a little I was probably Six or seven years old and and lived in anaheim

And you know, let this go guys the big treat that you got when you went to disney land Was you know, they had all the rides and they they rarely changed the ride because it's been there for a long time So in the smaller kids area, they had the song of the south ride Just chalk this one up as a lot. It was a great little ride. It had all the fun characters and all this and The fun characters are the problem racist or anything. You just saw these fun whimsical characters So, you know years had gone by and we went back to disney land and and are you re litigating al jolson too? What is happening and it was completely changed the ride And like I said, disney land hardly ever changed their rides

And we asked us, well, you know, where's where's this song of the south ride? Oh We asked one of the disney people. Oh, we don't talk about that ride. Yeah. Yeah, it's been it's been taken out We got to take that out We got take out song of the south although they do use the songs from it I thought one of the most beautiful things about it was No kids sitting at the feet of the older black man Relating these folk stories as an introduction, of course it was ahead of its time in the 1940s. It had mixed animation mixed with live action everything

Yeah, buddy No negative talk about song of the south did they Have they ever seen song of the south? I watched it recently. Why uh, it's some girl I was seeing for a little while accidentally found it and she's like, you know, they don't let this out of the vault I found a copy of it. Let's watch it as we watch it. I was like, whoa, this is worse than I remember Yeah, there's a fucking character called tar baby. Yeah Yeah There's a reason we don't talk about it anymore and that old man who tells them stories is a horrible black stereotype

Uncle remus is is insulting No, no, no uncle remus sounds right. Also Fuck off splash mountain is based on uh song of the south They just took out all of the racist stuff splash mountain is based on song of the south Yeah, that's originally part of the uh, the ride that was song of the south based. Huh. Yeah, so I don't remember that from the original movie splash mountain. Yeah I remember the original ride had like you'd go along with brayer rabbit And there would be like little things that would happen along the way and then you'd get to splash mountain

Uh, so that part is retained from the original as I understand But also you're totally right Let it go let this one go because you're not you don't need this one. You're not right No, David night. You ain't right Where does that even like even the most racist people I can think of aren't gonna jump on song of the south as they're killed And I on it's weird, but also what I don't like about disney They took down song and they wouldn't oh, how bad of a news day is it for you that you're like I'm gonna get the engineer to chime in about how song of the south isn't a ride at disney anymore

And he discovered that years ago and we're just talking about it over the break What the fuck is going on in their studio? I have no idea. So that's the ninth now we get to the tenth Uh, the tenth it would be fun to be there for a day to see like I would love to be in the studio for a day And just see the fucking chaos that must goes on that must go on I bet there's not much chaos Except for when alex has to do a controlled raid Well, I mean alex is like there have been plenty of times where they just don't know where alex is like Yeah, that's true There's got to be all kinds of weird shit being talked about when he's allegedly in court. Yeah

Um, so i'm sorry that was the tenth that david night was hosting that was a sunday right or i'm sorry that was a friday That was a friday and then uh, whatever happened to the old song of the south At disney why All right. All right guys. So we take uh, we take and I thought birthing of a nation had some good points Had a it was a great ride. It was a great ride So, uh, we take the 11th off because that is a saturday and we come back on the 12th And here three of the last four clips I have for you are trump based He gets to talking a bit more about trump at this point after july 12th. All right the other clip I have

Uh involves my theory. Okay, my current insane theory I'm i'm loving your teas. Yeah, i'm loving it. So let's get to this first one This clip is from the 12th show where he spells out some more of his feelings about donald trump. Meanwhile, donald trump Comes out And you would think That this is the only thing happening in the universe We're in like week three And says a lot of criminals are coming in from all over the world and from latin america

Not good workers. Not smart folks. Not good people. We need to stop the felons coming in That's like saying we need to keep drug dealers out of schoolyards and they just go it's insane. It's incredible. It's horrible He's the worst person in the world to overthrow reality and common sense And it's perfect because trump is a huge hillary clinton donor I don't trust him as far as I could throw him But he's saying stuff. That's true. That is less far Trump will take our country back Trump tapping into inner anger republicans 17 contenders battle to stand out in the crowd and what trump's doing is standing out by telling the truth

Okay, so now we're starting to see the the first signs of uh, um, but he's still saying I don't trust him Of course, so he doesn't trust him as far as he can throw him He might have some thoughts about why he can't trust him. Why is that? Well, remember on the last episode He's mob connected remember how you were speculating that I was making too big a deal out of that Yes, well, I'd like you to listen to this next clip. Does john do come back gambling if you want to do it is your issue But donald trump owns a bunch of casinos Donald trump's involved in a bunch of stuff He's basically a front man for some very hardcore people and he gives tons of money to the democratic party

More to democrats than republicans the last 30 years. So you can bet this is all his phonies three dollar bill And donald trump. I have a high level sources is uh Well, let's just say with a name like trump, they don't come after you with a name like carlioni Don trump will be back. Stay with us. I'm Alex Jones. You want the truth? Can you handle it? You're gonna get Well with a name like donald trump, they don't come after you with a name like carlioni. They do All right. All right. Um, um, um, he has it from high level sources Yeah, but he has everything from high level sources. I understand that but this one bears out with reality

This this is something that people can document The fact that he would have this information from high level sources. I mean, he could have it from anybody, but it is true That's the difference too between Other high level sources weird globalists. He runs into on planes Yeah, but it's just so weird to think that on this one. He's right like I can't conceive of that I can't allow myself to live in a world where broken clock theory where everything alex jones says is utterly wrong But the stuff he said about trump before he became trump's biggest fan Is 100 accurate again, we have to come back to what I was explaining

On the last episode that it is The reality of this the truth of it is he is right him saying the trump trump has extensive mob connections is true But that's irrelevant to alex jones's mindset What's relevant is that he believes that He's repeated it multiple times over the course of these last episodes Going further and further spelling out how he knows it right and what exactly he's saying That's true. He's saying that he's a casino owner. He's clearly connected to the mob Uh, all this stuff. He's shady people all around him. Right. That's not nothing

That's not even if even if he was wrong that's still the narrative that he's spinning Just like the sandy hook false flag stuff. Yeah, this is still his he's He's doing anti trump propaganda right now Because he's super into ron paul right and uh, yeah So we we move now to the last day of our investigation to lie 13th And on this show alex jones is uh, kind of he's on some weird shit He's he's doing some weird shit on this episode because on the last one on on the 12th I just played those two clips. Most of the show was about collapse narrative stuff

Of course by gold and he also is worried about censoring history So he's talking about the flag a bunch the battle flag He also admits that he owns multiple nazi guns, which is fun. Sure, uh, but we get to july 13th and And he has 10 copies of song of the south No, david knight does david knight definitely does alex jones is very overt on this episode and very clear that he is against russian sanctions And okay, why? Because he doesn't think that they're the bad guys in the ukrain situation again. We've been over this He thinks it's the globalists right and that they're just protecting russian identifying citizens in the ukraine

They're coming in to help them deal with the globalist invasion. That's just such a weird thing for him to Turn that into though. Well like for always being pro america as he says he is And for his entire like Because he's had shit like when we go back to the y2k. Yeah, he's definitely got that russophobic Narrative going on strong very much. So so Him him picking Putin in this in the Crimea situation seems mind-boggling to me. Well, has he already been on rt at this point?

I don't know. I don't think so, but I I do think That he's starting to become swayed by russian propaganda And some of that will play out in this next clip and that's what's crazy. The russians aren't perfect, but at a primitive level it's still male driven Uh, basically almost prehistoric. Well, that's all I needed to know But super smart super high IQ's gather drunk. Yeah, they fight a lot. Yeah, I mean whatever The point is is that russians only wake up when they're under attack And so that's historically known And so they now have state-run tv going the plan is to destroy our family. Here are the documents

The plan is to you know, put stuff in the vaccines They get it because they already went through it under communism and their population went down by more than 30 They've already been in the jaws of this forever. They've still got corrupt kgb people. They've still got socialism They've still got problems. They've still got vestiges of it But they really get what's going on and when you get in the darkest levels of tyranny light is that much brighter So he's talking about state-run tv, right? They're pushing narratives that are similar to him Right. They're pushing propaganda narratives about how all of this stuff that we're doing is to Uh stop globalists, right

So it's starting to mirror him who so do I mean, yeah, they're they picked up on what he was doing That's that alexander duggan stuff. Yeah. Yeah, huh I think some of that's intentional and then so they pick up on what he's doing He picks up on what they're doing turns into a nice little feedback loop Yep, and they can both kind of bounce their I mean basically they bounce ideas back and forth on each other So I'm what yeah, they bounce they they trade narratives like a ping-pong ball. I think there's a burgeoning propaganda Loop that is beginning with russian state television and alex jones, right? And if you want to take a step further about that, it's the reason that I said that nigel farage was important earlier

I believe that alex jones already has positive feelings about nigel farage And I we can't prove it a hundred percent But I would be very surprised if he isn't the intermediary for roger stone and wiki leaks, right? Which is obviously pushing russian propaganda, of course I believe that once roger stone gets involved with alex jones You take these dormant feelings that alex jones has towards russian propaganda and it becomes super amplified All this connection comes together at the same time if you look at it

It's so important that all the major players now aren't in play They aren't in in in the in the mix So you have alex with these latent things the true alex is the bigot Is the male identity stuff is the racism transfer avatar of toxic male culture the distrust of immigrants those sorts of things are true alex On top of that eventually you get roger stone in there you get steve pechenek in there who's not around at all at this point steve pechenek isn't around and he's the one who pitches the counter coup narrative right about how The clintons were pulling a soft coup and we did a counter coup against them right. He's not there at this point

roger stone isn't there to pitch overly aggressive trump Stuff at the same time people like mike sernovich aren't around gavin mcginnis. Those people are the cool fun trolley guys So all of these other elements of alex jones's current

Sphere of what he does his propaganda. They aren't in place yet What we have is rt We have we have dormancy and that's why he doesn't support trump yet. I think uh, I think that once these other Much more active players get involved That's when he switches and I know that I already said that I believe that once roger stone comes around That's the switch. That's the switch. But I now through him

Saying all of these super positive things about nigel farage saying really Dicey things about russian propaganda narratives about russia These things lead me to believe That I don't know how to spell this out exactly but I think roger stone Probably targeted alex I think that he knew that alex had these leanings and he knew that he could use him That is kind of what I think to this point. All right

I think that he knew that he could play stone is the one pulling alex's strings I think it's possible and it certainly fits his pattern of being a dirty trickster It fits his pattern of opportunistic underhanded Conservative republican tricks that he has played throughout his career And then you figure stone is the intermediary between Farage anybody in russia turkey The all of the all of the authoritarian hard right propaganda outlets now

Are coming together and creating a unified message someone like the people who are pushing brexit really hard are creating this same Uh propaganda right wing feedback russian tv rt and sputnik were very in favor of brexit Everybody in turkey. Yeah, you have the same thing going on in saudi arabia. You have all of these different people And and Like it's easy to imagine that it's a conspiracy But I I think it might just be more along the lines of with communication across the globe becoming more Or Being so easy now. They can just find each other. Yeah, and so it's not that they

It's opportunistic. Yeah. Yeah, it's not like everybody got together in a back room It's just like, oh, I like what you're doing Let's turn that into a thing that i'm doing and then so on and it just creates this bigger and bigger feedback loop but I also think that there is an awareness that Nationalism is a very easily exploited tool and you can use it to enrich yourself If you ride the wave, right? Right. It's something that requires escape goat globalism Great scapegoat very good. And so you have jews also works, but it doesn't make sense really for nationalistic countries to Fully back each other's nationalism. So it makes no sense

so why is it that marine le pen and Nigel farage and all of these people keep Having the same message keep having the same admirers and Nigel farage seems to run through all of them Yeah, he seems to be a very common thread through all of them. Right and as is roger stone Well roger stone through farage, right? So I think that there's something much more nefarious going on here. I and I think alex might Not be aware of the forces that are at play. That's sort of that's sort of my feeling as of press time Yeah, because I I I sincerely could see this being a massive

Uh Dup on the part of roger stone. Well, it's interesting to it's interesting to use alex jones in this regard because he's too dumb to bring in Yeah, like you don't want him involved in any planning sessions or having any knowledge of any larger game going on It's not that he's too dumb. It's that he's so reactionary. Yeah that if you reveal that hey, he's going to reveal it He cannot keep a source quiet. No, he's gonna say whatever it is you tell him. Yeah, so yeah, I would say alex is our Lucky idiot in this regard somewhat. Yeah. Yeah, and he has made tons of money because of it, of course Um, and he will lose tons of money because of it as well. Yeah I know that it's still very crazy

For me to be saying that I think that there's something incredibly underhanded here You think there is a global conspiracy my no, I don't I think it's a very localized conspiracy. Yeah I think it's it's a small conspiracy But the conspiracy is it is real and it is to basically destroy international bodies That do serve to stop war. Yeah It war is a cheap way to get rich The like it's so insane to me that christopher steel came out with that dossier and everyone focused on the piece

Stuff, but all the rest of it is coming out so hard to be true Everything trump was secretly trying to lift sanctions as soon as he got elected Which is what everyone suspected he was going to do The reason that you would do that is because if they raise the sanctions russia can make tons of money There's obviously that is him secretly trying to hold up his end of the quid pro quo Like it makes no sense to not see that and alex isn't that dumb alex is He's not alex is that dumb

so long as you provide him a An explanation that better fits into what he wants to believe trump is fighting your culture war for you exactly so that would Probably blind him to of course any number well think about all of the shit that he's the all of the shit that he's spinning now is he's Bringing back economic prosperity and all that and the opposite Everything that he's saying that trump is doing he's not doing his numbers are on the rise and it's obvious He's not doing those things. You know, it's fun. Even if you say that the polls are weighted five like alex says 15 percent Yeah, trump is now at a negative 20. Yeah, so You know in terms of the rosiest outlook. He is only hated by five percent more of the population than otherwise. Yeah, so

I know I know and you're not even saying this but I know it's crazy to some extent. I know that I don't I it's hard to it's hard to find another It's hard to find another thing that fits all of the players though But there's obviously another there there is another scenario that you know There there's secret information that we don't know there's unknown unknowns as rumsfeld would say. Yeah Yeah, it's just either it's either that or it's just one of the Most unlikely coincidences that I can imagine

That all of this stuff arises Uh independently of each other and miraculously alex jones starts hanging out with and promoting A guy who is one of trump's close associates and former campaign manager at the same time He starts having on steve pacenek who's spelling this narrative At the same time. He brings in a bunch of alt-right pranksters to be on his show to try and make things hip and cool It doesn't make sense that all of that would start happening like I'll figure out exactly the time that these things start happening, but up till now up till july 13th

None of those people are around and he doesn't support trump No If I find that roger stone shows up and he doesn't support trump that'll throw a little bit of a wrench in the gears Yeah, but I can't imagine that being the case Yeah, I don't know. I think roger stone was on from the get-go Wasn't he wasn't roger stone was on trump's team from the beginning. He was he was his campaign manager for a little while Yeah, so why would stone show up on info wars and I think at this point he's still involved in the campaign in 2015 Yeah, and so I once he goes off the campaign. I think is when he starts working unofficially as a propagandist for him, right?

so I don't know. It's really troubling to me Stone stone goes to trump and says I can get you info wars the fact that alex is so dismissive and so Unrealistic about the what's going on with russia leads me to believe that that is that is a weakness for him That was exploited. Mm-hmm. I don't know. We'll see but we got one more clip and it's also from the july 13th episode He gets a caller that calls in and has a counterpoint about trump Oh, no, he has a slightly positive argument about trump And it's interesting that alex jones shoots him down. So even with someone saying positive things about trump

Uh, here's what alex says this call is about five minutes long And I just want to let it play on a uninterrupted because it it's I mean it's It's it's totally Evidence against him. Okay. It's evidence of where alex jones head was But I want to go to your phone calls right now. I got two people that disagree so they go to the front of the line I'm gonna go to richard in illinois then tom in london Oh, I know richard john in texas walt bill and others richard in illinois. You're on the air. Go ahead Hey alex i'm a big fan of yours. Um, I want to disagree about trump and it's only because um

I don't think this guy exorders from anybody I'm not saying he's perfect, but um You mentioned yesterday. He was a ringer I don't think he takes orders from anybody. Um, I my experience with him in chicago is uh I've watched as he's built this god awful building. He put this god awful sign on it. He sued everybody Um to get this signed and so I wanted to be president so um Anyway, what I was hoping you would do is um

If you think he's a ringer, why don't you invite him on the show and ask him? We have invited trump on the broadcast And nico go after him again tweet at him Everybody tweeted trump and tell him come on the show And I've said that's my opinion and I've been told by jerome coursey who's had a lot of conversations with trump and others uh that He suspects that that's what he's doing and I respect dr. coursey. He's a really smart guy

So I'm sorry. I am gonna interrupt it because I mean there He repeats the jerome coursey who knows donald trump is saying that he is in as a publicity stunt and as a shill. Yeah, also Donald trump does eventually come on the show, but at this point He's not answering alex's requests So even the idea that when trump comes on and he says your your reputation is impeccable We're gonna be talking a lot clearly if alex had invited him on at this point If trump really believed that he would have come on of course So that part is even a lie. Well, there's no way that trump there's no I would never believe that trump cared

No, or or I had ever heard of info wars before he probably had heard of it Or well, yeah, he probably tweeted out a link before that saying about how dumb info wars was maybe But uh, yeah going going by all of uh trump's tweets about obama and how they're the exact opposite of Yeah, fucking he doesn't believe anything. So there's no belief system But at this point alex is ignoring trump. He's dismissive of him and in kind trump is dismissive of him He doesn't care. You want you want me to be on your show? I'm not even gonna answer your requests Even though he's got coursey massive money to hillary clinton. I can't imagine that you're a real conservative Then you give to her senatorial campaign

Um, and what he's doing is gobbling up all the attention and then not properly defending his ideas The guy owns casinos The guy is tied in with some really shady characters After he did that whole burst certificate thing. He suddenly got his He is what was his his nbc contract renewed So that's my feeling on trump. My gut has never been wrong. Maybe he'll have a change of heart. Maybe i'm wrong Maybe maybe a blue moon has arrived Uh, but uh, again, there's a headline donald trump has spent years courting hillary clinton and other dims

and so That's where I stand. I mean, he's like a cartoon character. People think he's the richest guy in america. He's worth four billion dollars He's a front man in my view for some other more powerful people Uh billa malinda gates are worth 78 billion on record warren buffett 73 billion on record this year in forbes their real wealth is in the aggregate trillions uh, donald trump, uh Says a lot of great things And things I agree with

But he's shown by his actions that he's a pretty slimy guy and look, I think people that own casinos are sliding through um I I've been around it I've had a chance to be out to vegas to see some fights And to be behind the scenes of course and we know it's come out in the news about it And I I just I don't even feel good being close to it. I don't well I don't lecture people about gambling you want to do it go ahead. You want to be a chump go ahead If you and your buddies want to gamble over a poker game, that's completely different. That's just making the game fun

I get that so I have gamble playing poker in my life, you know, not not high stakes or anything But the gamblers I know instead of being competitive in life instead of going out on a limb in life They go out on a limb in just somebody else's rig game It's it's a fake paradigm to come into and be screwed And I I think chumps gamble Uh for high stakes it ruins a lot of lives. Uh, it's mentally ill That's my opinion. Uh, and I think trump is a predator. I agree with being involved in it. What do you say to that? I agree with most of that. I somewhat agree with you. I mean, again, my only experience

We're all I've never watched his show. I assume this is where the clip ends. We can all go home and I had one I'm telling you the employees over there Were miserable They did not smile. You could tell that they've um, they were exhausting I find him exhausting But he is moving the overton window in a direction that as a libertarian is wrong paul as a ramp all supporter I kind of support So it's kind of hard for me to say

He's all bad when He is moving the overton window now. I might be naive. I don't know. Are you wrong? Well, generally you're not wrong I agree with a lot of what you say a matter of fact Best investment I ever made in my life was at taggy tangerine that I have every morning But uh, there's something there are a plant richard You're a plant. He's creating his own reality. I I tell you, um, not to produce your show, but um, Dr. Pitch I can't pronounce his last name but check He might be able to um, give a really good

Psychological description of what trump is. I mean, he might be a sociopath. I don't know Picinic would know but um I just see him moving the overton window and I'm part of me says That's a good thing. No, I hear you richard. Let me move on to tom and london I I can't really comment on your comments or I won't have time to get the calls, but I can't comment too elaborately Donald trump is involved with a bunch of seedy people What do you know alex is?

Richest man in america you go out and ask folks. They think he is he is a pop culture person who Is involved in wwf And it's not like jesse ventura was involved and now he's serious Trump uses the same tactics in reality And so yes to you who is awake Trump sounds good But the media is using what he said and misrepresenting it To then discredit everyone else

And so that's what's going on I mean, I can take one look at donald trump And I I hear this voice say danger will robinson I take one look at rand paul and go that's the real deal But they might kill him so There we are That clip Really spells it out. Yeah, I mean he does he has you yelling is unfair because he's already explained what he means

He's talking about mob shit. I know, but I want to know I want to know names. I want to know details Alex is never gonna give that I want to know it all man. What did he know? What did alex know that we didn't know you can find that out by googling it now But that's not the point the point is I want alex to say it right that would be nice But he has already said he's he tie he's tied to the mob. Yeah that he said that he said that he Makes his money running a casino, which also is where they launder tons of money right from russian banks and what have you right? But he runs because you know like people who run casinos are predators Making a false reality that exploits people who have a sickness. That's not something that can be talked away

He believes that one who runs a casino is a predator donald trump is a predator You can't take that away You can't be like oh, I talked to trump and he's cool or whatever Because he still has that history running a casino and you think that that is a predatory business Right, but go away, but if we go forward in time That's where we start to see He did why he did he did wave it away. He did wave it away with a right, but you can I talked to trump Uh, it's not because he comes on my show. He's a stealth patriot. It's not because he calls me. He's a stealth patriot

He's been planning this for 30 years and so in order to be a stealth patriot He had to run a business. He had to run the he had to be the most predator In order to fight back against these predators. He had to train himself to become the ultimate predator He is arnold schwarzenegger in the movie predator I understand where you're coming from facetiously, but it can't be like I can't that can't work It doesn't work No, so even in in that call it's super fascinating that the guy is saying you should get steve pechenik on I know that was the weirdest thing. It's the beginnings

That is the weirdest thing that he's got to be a plant richards got to be a plant. It's possible richards foolish Richard it was one richard hawked a product. Yeah, that's my first red flag a lot of his callers do though Do they but a lot of callers to like radio shows are fake. I'm assuming they're encouraged to a lot of callers All radio shows are fake. I'm not saying that about alex. That's just true of almost every drive time show Right, of course There's there are businesses that use actors and just pay them 50 bucks a pop to call on the radio shows But like that it's it's possible because of the plug and because of the foreshadowing of steve pechenik's eventual arrival, right? It's interesting. That's such a weird like so here's what a what a strange universe that these people live in

It's very weird where somebody'll just drop steve pechenik's name in there as if they're that's a regular name to throw in there Hey, you know who you should get to profile the most evil man that we can think of Another evil idiot over here not any other psychologist in the world He could have said he could have said you should get a psychologist to profile. Nope He chose steve pechenik But that's because steve pechenik's involved in conspiracy worlds and stuff like that Like he's a sandy hook denier and shit like that. So he would be the one that they come up with That's not all that weird to me. This is the suicide squad

This is this is all of these idiots just fucking congealing like a like the blob Like there's just a massive evil propaganda So throughout the course of this from july 6th to july 13th We see no change and alex jones's opinion towards donald trump Except for him to spell out more that he's slimy and a predator, right? He still doesn't trust him. He's there to invalidate the Truthful things that he says. Uh-huh. He's there to make a mockery out of the very idea of these true ideas He has that from high level sources Now but if we if we follow along the path of the caller is

Fake. Yeah, why would you have a like there are only a couple of different reasons to have a caller who is pro trump He's not even pro trump I'll be it reluctantly. No, he's just like he's saying he's like i'm liking what he's saying No, but he's saying is he's making trump is making it okay to talk about these libertarian issues, right? Whereas before that would be seen as too far out, right? So the overton window idea is is not that he sports trump. It's just that because he's so crazy and out there He's bringing the conversation that we want to have into the sphere So it'll make it okay for rand paul to say the things that we know he's the real deal about

So he's not even pro trump. He's just like we can use him right kind of right, but as a fake caller You're putting him there. You want that idea out there? Yeah, you want that narrative to become part of the thing that alex talks about then if so did if you're doing that As a fake call then you don't have alex completely repudiated you don't have alex jonesay now listen No, he is a bad guy. He's a slimy fuck. Yeah, that's true Then I don't think the call is fake. You don't think so. No, all right. I don't necessarily think it is I don't have any evidence because I the idea that he hawked a product isn't evidence for me because people do that all the Okay, fair enough. I didn't know that was a regular thing for his callers to do all of his callers take his products

Jesus, but that makes sense with this cult Environment like I support you. I don't want to let you know how great your shit is Yeah, so even though we see no evolution necessarily in his position towards trump. We do see minor Trends in his own headspace where he's starting to see the media treats him bad the media treats me bad There's identification factors right on top of that. We see him being incredulous of russian propaganda We see him saying very positive things about nigel ferrage I think If I would describe the situation right now

This is the storm clouds gathering right right here. We are leaving off On what I think is about to be a massive thunderstorm and massive thunderstorms don't happen just because clouds roll in There's pressure systems involved And I think these little things Like the arrival of steve pochennec the arrival of roger stone I think those things are going to be the necessary ingredients that come together and put a match Underneath the the gasoline spout that is alex jones is underlying idiocy based on globalism

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Lot of other people know I read the word this is one of those weird things where we were talking about this before the show and uh Yeah, it doesn't seem like like It's it's a very interesting Thing for us to go back and and look at this investigation And it's an even more interesting thing for me because you're the one doing all the work And that's my favorite part of it. Yeah, uh, but but like this is This is watching the beginning of this this propaganda storm. How did we get to here? Yeah, how do we it seems like we're right there at the beginning of it. How did we get to the point where

Legitimately, the president is sending emails out to fundraise with info wars links. Exactly. How did we fucking get there? Right and for and you can like you can clown on twitter about how dumb these guys are But look at what they did. Yeah, this is something that needs to be fought Not something that we can laugh away. These people are powerful Inexplicably because they're so fucking stupid. There's three things that I agree about Alex with alex jones about marijuana should be legal Uh Cops should not be able to take shit from you They shouldn't be able to steal from you and there is an information war

And trump is tied up with some shady motherfuckers. He's a predator. So that's the fourth thing. Yeah, but there is there is absolutely Information wars going on. Yeah, he has his site named perfectly I totally agree with all that and I'm not saying that we have the resources Or even the ability to be the other side of the information war But making fun of him isn't enough. No, we need to understand this stuff or else we're going to be suffering the consequences of it the next time around absolutely and uh, that's my that's my mission this is It's so weird how scary this is why I've given up everything else in my life. It's so weird how terrifying this is

It is like this is such silly dumb There were Somehow the propaganda outlet that is being fucking referenced by the president Also spent a day talking about the song of the south ride at disney land to be fair that was david night This is the world we live in. Yeah Well, it wasn't the whole show that I don't know what else I don't care. That's the whole show for me fine It's invalidating of the rest of the show exactly more more to the point He spent 20 minutes talking about a chick-fil-a before right, right exactly. Yeah, but but that's but that's like nobody

Nobody else is doing like this is what we need to combat on a very specific direct level And it's very frustrating that it doesn't seem like people are really going after well Some people are enjoying it and I appreciate the people who are listening we do Oh, yeah, no, absolutely, but to be frank. We should have Maybe a thousand times the listeners we have a thousand times. Yeah, probably. I mean, this is important. It really is. He's destroying our world He literally is and it's not that people believe info wars. That's not the problem the problem is the the Okay, Larry Nichols didn't destroy political discourse

But things he did set in motion the environment where political discourse is completely destroyed Yeah The lies and propaganda that he was the source of about bill clinton Has tainted the entire american political landscape for the last 20 years In the same way, alex jones isn't directly doing these things that are legitimately going to end up fucking us over But he has kicked the ball in motion And as much as it's fun to be like, ah, you didn't do that much You're not responsible for trump winning. He played a big role in it

He played an incredibly big role in it Even if you only take into account that he paid thousands of dollars for people to show up and soy bomb people with bill Clinton as a rapist shirts Yeah, stuff like that like he is indirectly responsible for trump becoming president trump is responsible for Getting out of climate change agreements He's responsible for putting jeff sessions in control who's going to roll back civil rights with police forces

He's responsible for all of these things and quite frankly alex jones is indirectly responsible for a lot of that stuff by virtue of the things he did I don't want him to be responsible for it because I like the alex jones who talks about chick filet billboards I think he's an idiot, but I like that guy I don't I don't wouldn't want to hang out with him. No, but I like that kind of I think it's important to have weirdos and I don't mean weirdo necessarily in the negative. I don't think that a robust Um media landscape is just straight news. Just well documented stuff

You've got to have people out there who are suggesting some of the craziest bullshit right because sometimes they are right And sometimes you have conversations that can be opened up because of their insanity Things that no one else would consider and alex jones years ago was that He still had a lot of bigotry in him and that's a big problem but Again, it's still all covered under the first amendment. I don't think You know, you can point the finger at him and be like stop it. You're bad But you can't that's not grounds for kicking him off the air. It's not grounds for arresting him

He's not doing anything illegal. He was that crazy person And this investigation to me is very personal in some ways because not because I identify with him but because He's not that anymore. He is The mouthpiece that is responsible for civil rights Going away in many cases. He is responsible for whatever woes are going to come to our climate That lead us to be siding with syria and nicaragua Against every other well nicaragua is actually way better than everybody else too. They've right. They've dedicated. Yeah Us in syria

It's nuts. Like I want chick filet billboard alex back. Yeah That was this sucks. That was a it sucks That was a genuine heartfelt moment of sadness More one out for chick filet alex. Chick filet alex is going to go up with hobo jones But it is it sucks man It sucks because now we can't have that anymore No, no, that's gone forever. But not there's no going back not even in the form of alex Everybody else. Mm-hmm. There is no sensible and he wasn't sensible. No, but there is no like

Conspiracy theorist, maybe joe rogan. I don't know That maybe is him now, but even he's he says some really fucked up stuff Yeah, but like the the mike sernovich is the rebel media those people are all Weaponized they're not like alex jones back in the day when he was just talking about chemtrails and Even y2k even that that wasn't a weaponized propaganda Mike sernovich rebel media alex jones

These are all things that are working towards a specific goal That's a specific goal. Sure. Yeah, and they're working towards the same goal. Yeah, that specific goal Is the destruction of liberalism. It's the destruction of global cooperation I want to find a different word than globalism because that's not what it is. Right. They want to destroy these These institutions that allow people to work towards a better future, right? It seems like they're all organized in creating a new feudalism Like that's that to me what I hear whenever people are talking about prosperity. Yeah under the or a nationalism All of that stuff. It's all billionaires, man. Yeah, like that's what is going to like

What I see from all of these things is we're destroying nations and Rich ass motherfuckers are gonna hit like it's not it's not russia versus the united states No, that's not the it's not the people no or or the climate agreement. I mean the russian people try and protest Exactly. Yeah. Well and uh The the saudi arabi the people from saudi arabia They would absolutely protest if it weren't illegal and they would be killed for it

Yeah, wilbur ross coming out and being like hey when trump was here. No one was protesting. Yeah. Yeah, well, that's that's a bad society Yeah, all of this stuff is it's People it's very very rich people looking to make more money Putin doesn't really give a fuck. He doesn't really care about russia Doesn't really care about trump. All he cares about is being as rich and as fucking Powerful as possible taking back the soviet union. Yeah, and probably more. Yeah, if he can get it I mean, he just said that if uh sweden joins the nato. He's going to attack them. Yeah, which sure man

Yeah, fucking fine to be fair. He didn't say literally he was going to attack them But that was the that was the message right is like you guys don't do it But thankfully sweden's like we never said we were gonna join. What are you talking about? I I don't know No, it's it's it's an it's an oligarchy Kind of situation that boggles my mind. I can't understand how anybody Would buy into it. Yeah, who isn't one of those oligarchs and and I mean, I agree. I agree Uh, so this has been a prolonged Outro where yeah, we said goodbye. I try and make the point that

We need more people listening and and really paying attention to this shit. I know it's really easy I don't think I mean I would like it if more people listened to us that would be awesome because i'm self-centered But I would like it more if just more people were paying attention to the underpinnings of all of this propaganda I think there are some attempts to look at the stuff like the media matters They try to cover right wing extremism and what have you but they don't do they feed into the outrage machine and all that Shit, it doesn't they're great and at somewhat there at least they're shining a light on some of this stuff But there I don't think I I don't think it's the the ointment that is needed

And I don't think we are either but we're fucking trying Anyway, thank you guys Oh, oh also big news. What news I forgot uh last thursday Good thing we did this extended outro. Otherwise, we wouldn't have gotten to it Rappaport was on last thursday Yay So we have proof that what Rappaport still Rappaport still lives Andy and Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding So Alex I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you