Knowledge Fight - #493: February 16, 2016
Episode Date: October 19, 2020Today, Dan and Jordan put present day Alex Jones on time-out, and take a glimpse into the past. In this installment, Alex brings in the big guns to cover the death of Antonin Scalia, which ends up mos...tly being about a suspicious van.
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I'm Dan.
I'm Jordan.
We're a couple dudes like sit around trick novelty.
I would just talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
Oh, indeed we are Dan.
Jordan.
Dan.
Jordan.
I have a quick question for you.
What's up?
What's your bright spot today?
My bright spot today is I splurged on a little investment for the show.
Who did you?
And that is this button press.
Watch out.
That I'm touching right now.
I see it.
A little button maker.
It's very powerful.
I think that Sensei was a much younger man.
I've always been really interested.
I didn't realize this is very deep buried subconscious thing.
Okay.
In button maker.
All right.
I think that I was a young man.
I think I was jealous of the punks with their cool buttons and their bands.
Oh yeah.
You go to a punk show and every band has buttons.
Yeah.
Where do these fucking buttons come from?
Yeah.
These magical buttons.
Everybody's got their leather jackets with their cool buttons on them.
They're just sitting there like a dork.
It is really kind of puncturing of the punk aesthetic to realize that half of the time
they're just in their basements pumping out buttons.
Someone is.
We're fighting the man, but also I got to make these goddamn buttons.
The nerdy one is making the buttons.
Everybody else is pretending to practice their instruments.
That's why Rivers Cuomo got a band.
That's where you got to start making buttons.
He's the button guy.
Yeah.
And I want to have something that I can give to listeners and stuff.
I think it would be really fun to be able to just sit around while I'm doing some work
listening to Alex.
Cranking out buttons.
Cranking out buttons.
So you've got some.
We got some updates about that forthcoming in the near future.
That's lovely.
And then the other thing.
The other thing was like, so there's got all the punks with the buttons.
And there's this jingle, this commercial jingle.
I think from back when I lived in Hawaii.
Sure.
I don't know what business it was, but it was buttons, buttons.
Who's got the buttons?
What do you do?
It was like this button company.
I like it.
Stuck in my head friends.
I was like eight or nine.
I like a direct advertising approach.
Final thing.
I think buttons are really cool.
I like going to antique stores and looking at these like weird old like mayoral race buttons
from 1960.
We were in an antique store just the other day and I was staring at all these like JFK
and Reagan buttons and all that shit.
Yeah.
There's something really, really cool about buttons.
And I didn't realize how exciting it would be to have a button press.
I think it's a paradox in some ways because there is also something deeply uncool about
buttons.
Yeah.
In 2020.
Yeah.
It's a very interesting, fun thing to have.
Well, I'm going to hold onto it as a bright spot nonetheless.
Oh, indeed.
What about you?
For me, it is open.
Mike Eagles just released his new album.
And it is absolutely incredible.
Do you know what it reminds me so much of a green room conversation like the comics have
where it's like some dude will be telling you the worst thing that's ever happened
in his entire life and there's like four comics sitting around with him and everybody is hearing
this story and then there's a riff that happens and everybody starts laughing hysterically
and then it stops and it goes back into the saddest story and that's just how it works.
Like that's just how we deal with that green room conversation.
And it's dark, darkly funny about his divorce and all that stuff.
But then of course, it's also extremely sad about the worst things that's ever happened.
How, how is he dealing with the fact that in the age of COVID-19, there are no more open
Mike.
He's doing, he's doing a great job with it.
He's moved on from those.
He kept the name.
Showcase.
But he moved on.
Zoom show eagle.
Middle eagle.
Yeah.
Oh, that's great.
I have to check that out.
Yeah.
Next time on the Bible.
It's really, really good.
I do like his work.
So that's, that's awesome.
Hey, Jordan.
Today we got an interesting episode to go over.
We're going to be talking about.
What's that?
February 16th and 24th, 2016.
Oh, that's in the past.
And this is now 2016.
Get the fuck out of here.
I support that.
This is now my autonomous of time zone.
I went and listen.
Talk, what are we up to today?
We're covering this for a specific reason.
And actually there's a myriad of reasons.
One of them is that I tried to cook up a project Camelot
episode, but the episode I listened to, unfortunately,
by the time I got through the interview I was preparing,
I realized this person is not someone who I can make fun of.
I don't feel comfortable about their,
their state of mind.
And quite honestly,
I don't feel comfortable with that.
Their state of mind.
And quite honestly, Jordan,
I believe that after our last episode at the end of last week,
where we heard Alex's long racist songs.
Oh boy.
Very racist.
I just feel like it's the kind of thing where present day Alex
might need to go into time out.
It's a time out situation.
Yeah, absolutely.
There needs to be a punishment for this type of thing.
I feel at least, you know how you're not supposed to yell at
your cat.
You're just supposed to sort of like, if it misbehaves,
just sort of like ignore it for a little bit.
All right.
Don't give it the satisfaction.
Yeah.
That's kind of how I feel right now with Alex.
And I go ahead and treat you like a, like a disobedient.
Sure.
Back off.
Back off.
Yeah.
So we'll get down to this episode here from February 2016.
But before we do,
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I also, I'm not sure.
I can't remember now if Alex
calls himself a cogitator or a
cogitator.
I want to say their way.
Cogitator.
I was cogitating like a cogitate.
Hmm.
I want to say it's cogitator because
he thinks it's a, it's a name.
And he's thinking about potatoes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Smooth.
You would think that by now I would
at least improve slightly.
Yeah.
So Jordan today, like I said, we're
in the past.
We're looking at this, this is February
16th.
We're looking at this for a reason and
for that reason as we get through.
Indeed.
But here's where we start.
Alex covering the big news of the day.
All right.
And we've got our reporters.
David Knight, Joe Biggs and a camera
crew as well.
Now down at the scene of where Scalia
reportedly died of natural causes.
An anonymous phone call said.
And there'll be no investigation by
any of the media or the government
and there'll be no autopsy.
They made sure to announce the next
day.
Because there's nothing to see here.
Just go to sleep.
Go away.
So the big news on February 16,
2016 was that Antonin Scalia who
Alex calls Anthony twice.
Of course.
Of course.
Why not?
He has passed away at the
Illuminati Ranch in Texas.
So we've set up a murder she wrote
episode where we're going to find out
who killed Antonin Scalia by the end
of this.
We're going to find out something.
OK.
I will say that Alex has not
developed by this point.
The Illuminati Lodge.
OK.
Which I know is definitely something
that it got.
It got tossed around.
It's coming down the pipeline.
He believes that obviously
murder.
Duh.
Well, of course.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Come on.
But yeah, he's got Joe Biggs.
He's got David Knight out there on the
scene.
Great.
Good tea.
Here's what's going to happen
according to Alex.
OK.
They're going to replace Scalia
for the real facts.
OK.
First Amendment critic may get
the nomination
for the Supreme Court justice.
That's a current memo article.
Attorney General Loretta Lynch.
Of course, they're banning
buildings named Lynch because it
hurts people's feelings.
Will she change her name?
Because it's associated with
lynching.
Of course, it's not associated
with lynching.
It's an Irish name.
But who cares?
Attorney General Loretta Lynch
or Attorney General Loretta
racist name, hang black people,
hurt my feelings.
OK.
All right.
This name means Attorney General
Loretta Lynch has publicly
expressed enmity towards First
Amendment.
So another very important story.
Yikes.
Yikes.
Alex.
All right.
OK.
Alex.
Alex.
You know how it's great
whenever somebody is so racist,
even attempting to be non-racist
is incredibly racist.
Yeah.
There's nothing racist about the
name Lynch.
No.
You know that, it's one of those
who had that name growing up on
the other side.
But it also his...
March on Lynch.
Yeah.
John Lynch.
The term for like the
extrajudicial hanging...
Sure.
Sure.
...does come from that name?
Yeah, there is that.
It's named after either William
or Charles Lynch, two figures of
early American history who
had Lynch's law.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They grew in to the name, if
you will.
Yeah.
So it is...
I don't know a point I'm trying to
make other than like Alex should just...
Stay away from it.
I don't know.
Leave it alone.
So anyway, yeah, Loretta Lynch is
going to be the new Supreme Court
Justice, which we all now know is
definitely...
It's going to be great.
Totally accurate.
It would really save him a lot of
headache if she just went to the
bench.
So Alex has...
He believes that he's become...
He's been vindicated.
Sure.
Immediately when Scalia died,
he made some predictions about how
to tell if it was murder.
It turns out.
All right.
Alex was right.
Okay.
It's my job to take the heat and
just to tell you what my gut and
what the evidence shows and to
not play games and not be a coward.
That's why I came out Saturday.
Hours after it was announced he was
dead, did my research and said
the fact that they instantly announced
that he died of natural causes with
a quote anonymous phone call.
The fact that it's in the middle of
nowhere and this owner of the ranch
is a high level Democratic donor.
The fact that they are
instantly saying no foul play.
There'll be no investigation.
I said watch if there's no autopsy
and we hear that quickly.
We know there's major alarms going
off and of course the next morning
the judge came in on a Sunday and
said there will be no autopsy.
So Alex has been proven right.
Absolutely.
He sets the preconditions of how he
will be proven right.
Exactly.
And then he's proven right and
nothing has been proven.
It's really great whenever you set
your preconditions after the preconditions
preconditions have already been met.
In which case it's like yeah see man
I was proved right.
Or if you say something like
if there's no autopsy
then it's you know it's
suspicious.
Yeah.
If you say that then if there is
an autopsy you get to question the
autopsy.
And if there isn't one you would be
like I was right and I said that if
there wasn't one then it was
definitely murder.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If the sun rises tomorrow.
Oh man it was murder.
Oh man.
It was murder.
Yeah.
This is nonsense.
And you know there
could have been an autopsy.
Sure.
If Antonin Scalia's family wanted
one.
They could have said it any time.
They're not required in Texas
when there isn't foul play suspected
even if the person is a high
profile individual.
So what you're saying.
But if anyone who had
like a connection or a reason
to request the autopsy
if they had wanted to they could
have.
So you're saying the family was in
on it.
Yeah that's what I'm saying.
I'm pretty sure what you just told
me is that the family killed
Antonin Scalia.
I think Alex might be working on
that.
Okay.
By the end of the month.
By the end of February.
If the sun rises tomorrow.
I think we've definitively
proved.
Yeah.
So we know because we looked at
2015 quite a bit that Alex
becomes a big Trump fan by
mid December.
Yes.
Of 2015.
Yeah.
2016.
He is.
He has jumped.
He has conveniently forgot all of
the crimes that he remembered.
Right.
Committed just a recent big.
Well.
You know.
That's small potatoes compared to
the fact that Trump is trying to
talk shit about how Bush let
9 11 happen.
That'll do it.
Alex is really excited about that.
Of course.
Cheney Trump way off base with 9
11 claims doesn't know the facts.
And then he goes on to say oh it was
Clinton's fault and Clinton admits
it.
Oh give me a break.
Of course Clinton was protecting
Bin Laden.
That's all owned by Saudi Arabia.
There's something really interesting
that I noticed when I was listening
to this and that is that like he
doesn't accuse people of being owned
by China.
No.
He does now.
He accuses everybody of being
under the Chinese payroll.
Well now it's a they took over for
the Saudis.
That is basically how it sounds if
you go back and you listen to this.
Strangely enough that was a very
peaceful transition of power.
He talks about Saudi Arabia in the
same way.
I mean not definitely not the same
way.
It's an important question now but
like in terms of who owns the
globalists who's running it Saudi
Bankra pode own down.
The Bush and like oh OK.
You let that drop pretty quick.
I mean it is.
It is kind of also in a way
accurate in saying that many of
these politicians can be bought off
by many different people at the same
time if they would like to.
Hmm.
You know I mean obviously he's full
of shit about all of that but it
is a deeper truth Stan.
No I mean not a deeper truth.
I
think I think anytime there are
our special interests that have
undo it
influence
on our our political process that's
something that should be we should be
careful about but no I don't think
there's an underlying truth to what Alex is saying.
I'm pretty sure Scalia's family is right.
I think Alex is choosing enemies
based on convenience.
That would be true Dan much like Bill Gates
is part of the twelve and then he's
middle management is also part of the
ruling elite group of there is that
there is that so Trump has come out
and he's been talking some shit about
jab because he's in the primary
against sure he talks about how your
brother led 9 11 happy he's
stupid asshole fuckers
and Alex believes this to be
like expert.
Yeah gamesmanship is great.
Trump is just laying out the facts
baiting them to come and attack him
as a 9 11 truth or and they just start
hammering the daylight side of them. The guy has
my respect totally now and
is in incredible danger.
He is incredibly bold
and he's in 10 times the danger I'm in
or Ron Paul or something like that. I mean
he is incredible
and so are people like Matt Drudge
and Clarence Thomas.
So
yeah
what happened there
Trump didn't expose 9 what.
I don't think he did
the way that Alex is presenting this
is like yes he's talking
he's talking this shit and then they're going to
call him a 9 11 truth and then he's going to
prove himself right on the grandest
stage of the mall.
It didn't happen. No none of it
happened. None of it ever happens.
Nope. Everything that they say is going to
happen doesn't. The only thing that happens
is the erosion of rights for the rest of
us.
Trump though better than Bernie
what's interesting about this
is that until
fairly recently before
this Alex liked Bernie
yeah of course because he was like with
the polls he helped to audit
the Fed yeah he was one of the only people
who was interested in like
Fed reform totally
and yeah so Alex
Alex in the like a couple years
before this a year before this you'd say
like hey you know like he says he's a socialist
but you know he's got some good stuff
and he hangs out or talk to Rand Paul
of course. It's like okay
well he conveniently forgets all of those
problems that he has. Now he
fucking hates Bernie. Well of course he hates
Bernie and should tell you
that Bernie did not have a job until he was
40.
Alex
he was fucking mayor when he was
9. Shush. He was
elected mayor when he was 9
years old. Not important. He was
screaming. Didn't have a job until he was
40. Alex conversely
I'm sick of the 1% taking over
this planet. Alex
Jordan. Yes. Mike down for this.
Okay. Alex was forced into
child labor
at the age of 12. Okay.
You know Levin says a lot of good things
and I don't want to sit around and be enemies with
mainline conservatives because they're a million light
years better than Bernie Sanders who
it's now emerged never had a job
until he was 40. I mean
I'm 42. I had a job when
I was 12.
And I remember
saying there are child labor laws
dad. You know I need to go get a job
there in the summer. I already mowed
some yards and stuff and he said
that's a bunch of baloney. You go down
to the local marina which was a mile
from our house. We lived in a lake
and you go ask those old guys in there and tell
them you want a job you'll work for whatever
they give you. If you actually do the job
you'll have a job and if you actually keep doing it
you'll have a job there years later and it'll be a
manager. And by the time
two years had passed and I'd worked at the marina
during the summers they were actually trying to hire me
to be a manager at the marina when I was like 14
a manager some of the boat stalls
and stuff keeping them clean.
Cleaning boat stalls
at 12
for an hourly wage when you don't want
to be doing that and your dad says
bullshit get down to the marina
clean that stuff up and they'll give you a raise.
That's illegal. That's good stuff.
That's good stuff. I love it.
Alex's response is totally right.
There are child labor laws.
Undocumented ignorance are stealing our
jobs. The 9 year old
should be stealing our jobs. Put him
down in the marina. It's a bit what
is it going to be cold again? No that's dirty
down there. Nothing's cleaner than a marina
didn't you think about that? Nothing's cleaner than a marina after
a 12 year old
mops up. Yeah absolutely. God that
story is not uplifting Alex that's
a bummer.
I was 12 I mowed some lawns
and my dad said fuck you get down
there and get a job. You'll be a manager
by the time you're in seventh grade.
I'm sick of the 1%
exploiting us marina laborers
we've been fighting for unionization
for 20 years now.
Alex was a scab at the marina.
He was a scab. Alex was a scab.
Oh man what a fucking
loser. So Alex
you know like I would say that
my sense of him is that
what he does is he gets on air
and he just says bullshit.
Sure. Because that's what I
experience from listening to him is just
a guy who gets on air and says a bunch of bullshit.
I think I would agree with you yeah.
And he's kind of like just by instinct
and knee jerk reaction
kind of just makes stuff up for conspiracy
to benefit and you know
during his deposition in the sandy hook
lawsuit he did say that he had a bit of
a psychosis that he developed where he just thought
that everything was fake. Wow.
He got into that but he should
tell you that that's not actually
that's not actually true. Oh okay.
I don't just default
come out on air
and say that something stinks.
You think I'm happy
that there's about a 98% chance
that kills Kalea? You think
I want to be the one that breaks it?
You think I want to be the one that runs over the top?
Totally.
I'm the first one to go up against the machine gun nest
but I will do it. And I'm telling you this
in case something does happen to me
I need other people to step up.
It's the only way to save your family.
Whoa. All right. Okay.
That feels familiar. All right. Okay.
If they come after me
for this blockbuster
Scalia news. Scoop.
They'll kill me. Yeah. And then they'll come
for you and your random listener.
Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. All right.
Alex absolutely needs
this to be a conspiracy.
I think you would love it. Because I will say
that the idea of Antonin Scalia
dying of old age or heart condition
natural causes
Alex can't do shit with that. No.
And it's unfortunately a very reasonable
thing at the time. Yes.
100%. And yeah, it's not
like Alex is laying
in terms of news and broadcasting
and everything.
You know, like a tragic event
like someone dying or you know
however you want to look at the event
a normal maybe said
maybe newsworthy event
that just happens. Yeah.
There's no spin to that. No.
There needs to be a villain. Yeah.
There needs to be someone who you can yell about.
Scalia's family. Someone needs to be
agreed. They murdered him. Yeah.
And they agreed is Alex. Yeah.
Or else there is just no way for this
to be processed by the by the
the right wing media. Absolutely.
I do think that you come on here and say bullshit.
And I think you do want to. I think it's a
very lucrative thing to do.
You need to. Exactly.
You know what? I would probably think
much less of him
if he didn't just like I mean he's got
people who have his back
who are saying the same things. Sure.
Who are experts.
It's all over the place. Michael
Savage says looks like he was murdered.
Oh, what does Michael Savage know?
You know, he's just made
billions of dollars in real
estate and nutraceuticals and is the all-time
best-selling author and pretty much launched the entire
organic food movement
under another name, another gnome
diploma.
What is a guy with probably a 200 IQ know?
Let's not listen to him.
Let's not listen to Alex Jones, the cook.
What does any of that have to do with
whether or not Michael Savage could
tell from looking at
his articles if Scalia was murdered?
I mean if you got a 200 IQ
you can solve mysteries from afar
with no information.
Even assuming everything that Alex said is accurate
like, yeah,
let's not listen to Michael Savage.
He likes organic food.
Yeah, okay.
You've given me a lot of qualifications
and yet none of those was
Murder Investigator.
That would have been a really good one. If you had been like
he has a 200 IQ and also
20 years in investigative experience
that's a whole different story.
Alex is based aren't we?
Who's a detective?
I can't think of any detective.
I'm telling you murder she wrote. That's what you do.
Stabler.
Benson.
You can't think of both of them.
Oh yeah, good.
Alex doesn't like the Europeans.
No, that's true.
Absolutely not.
So Alex is appealing to Michael
Savage thinking that it's possibly murder.
And he's sick and tired
because he doesn't want to be
a murderer himself.
Alex Jones is a Cooke
because he has the best sources.
Well, one of them is Michael Savage
so that's not good.
Well, yeah, but I mean
when CBS
and the Sydney Morning Herald call me a Cooke
and a nut and oh, he's
do you have contacts that eat dinner with the Supreme Court justices
and that say that total tyranny is coming
in 2016?
Oh no, you don't have those contacts.
You don't have any special forces
and people above that. Do you have
the former head of psychological warfare
for the State Department on?
That's Steve.
Do you live in the real world?
Do you have Green Beret commanders
Delta Force people in studio
on air that admire your work?
No, you don't.
You don't have anything but dishonor
and the fact that you're flat jaw scum.
I think this is really fun because I can tell
who almost all those people are.
All those people are
dumb.
Those aren't real sources.
What he doesn't understand is that, yes,
part of the job of a journalist
is cultivating sources who are near
the primary people that you're talking
about. So when you say like, oh, do you know
people who eat dinner with Supreme Court justices?
Probably if that's what they cover.
That was Matt Drudge and
Alex has said that he's only talked to Drudge
that one time he showed up at
studio and gave that interview.
But he wasn't seen.
And now Matt Drudge is on the outs with
the Trumpian world.
Oh, Drudge killed Scalia.
That could have been.
See how you get Steve in there, you got
the Green Beret, I think is Matt Bracken.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's just like, who cares?
Stuff's so stupid. All your
all your fucking experts are idiots.
You know what's wild? What?
No, Lieutenant Colonel's.
No, no, he should have dropped in
there. I think that a lot of those military
ranks and stuff that he does like
chiefs of
I think that's just on the fly.
They're very fungible. Yeah, you're in the
military. So today you're a second
star general. It's just random.
I suspect. Yeah.
Anyway, Trump, Alex says that he's
he's on a suicide mission to save
America. Of course. But you know, he's
also a little bit of an egomaniac. Yeah,
that's true. And sure, you call him an
egomaniac and the people that have
a good egomaniac and he's the type we
need.
Do what now?
And they just admire him so much.
These are high level government people.
You can put two together. CIA,
you name it.
And I mean the last
generation that actually overthrew governments actually
did stuff on the ground, didn't just play around
with a bunch of NSA spy gear. That's Steve
again. Yeah.
I really don't understand
why you're taking the overthrow governments as a
point of pride here. You don't.
The governments that Steve Pachennik
quote unquote helped overthrow
he liked right.
He should be against whatever
the thing that I really enjoy is
like going back and listening to this like
Alex is so simple
and kind of
dumb that like he
in the same way that like characteristic
phrases epithets are used in
in like Homeric poetry
like the Iliad or the Odyssey. Alex
does the same like overthrows countries
that's always Steve. Sure.
That is a signifier
that is
rage filled Pachennik.
Yeah, exactly.
Rage filled Pachennik
who took over countries
and killed Aldo Moro.
Agamemnon, millennia
Memnon.
Yeah, I think that's really fun
because you can just go back and listen to this and be like, oh, I know
what you're talking about. I know what you're doing.
Your friends are dumb.
Anyway, Alex gets to yell in here and it felt
really like this is
like what
I'm spoiler alert. All right, fine.
Sure, sure, sure. This is going to lead to an ad pivot.
Okay, but
I felt so much more like, you know what
you're doing. This is better
than present. All right, okay.
The only reason I get so many of the leaks and so much of the intel,
the good intel
is because people know I've been around
20 plus years. They know where I came
from. They know who I am.
They know who my family is that
we're as American as it gets
continually committed to this
country and we will never sell out
anybody. We will never screw over
little people. We will never oppress
people. We will fight for freedom
until the death and that's it.
Now
who else is going to join us in this fight?
That's what I'm asking you right now
because this isn't a game.
We have succeeded in waking up a lot
of people.
But we've not yet removed the globalist and we're far from
it.
And this is a serious battle.
I want to get into the rest of the 9-11
news and back in the school. I haven't even got into
it yet, but
before I go any further,
find our operation right now. That feels
like, that feels more
like that's Alex's
house yelling about the
America and the
battle. It doesn't
feel as near, I mean it's
gross, but somehow it doesn't feel the same
gross as present day
stuff does. Maybe it's the lack of
demon.
There's no demon in this. Satan did not
specifically kill Scalia.
He is leaving it open.
He is leaving it open for
human actors who
have possibly done it on their own.
There's no demonic nonsense.
There's no everything
goes back to China.
The show makes more
sense. It feels more grounded in reality.
In the same way that everything
is nonsense and crazy.
The
Trumpian influence has made
everything insane.
It's made Alex pretty insane too.
It makes more sense in February
2016.
I just can't get the idea of Alex Jones
in that drawing room murder mystery
bringing everybody. I've gathered
you all here at this dinner
table to eventually solve
the crime with all of you.
And it was you!
If you're going puoro, then it's
spoiler alert for the murder on the
Orin Express.
Alex could be puoro in that
because the solution is everyone did.
Yeah, that's true.
According to Alex, everyone's a globalist.
I was thinking more Nick and Nora where
there were three different red herrings
until somebody just randomly pulls a gun.
We now get to
why we ended up doing this
episode.
This takes a little bit of the randomness
away.
Oh my gosh, Larry Nichols,
the big Clinton insider
who
knows a lot of the top folks
in Washington on record, and the
Clintons have said him in the New York Times,
they're scared of Larry Nichols.
I'm going to see what he knew about Scalia's death
and
I don't know if he's going to get into this
on air yet, but it's just
over the top stuff and I just, I wish
I didn't even have to know all this.
So Larry Nichols is
who Alex gets to comment
and have some
deep insights on the death of Antonin
Scalia.
And one thing I want to make abundantly clear
before we get into anything, if you listen
to that clip, it's clear that Alex is referencing
something Larry has told him off air.
Oh yeah. Alex and
Larry will go out of their way to pretend that they did
not talk off air, but Alex
is very clearly saying that they did.
Did Scalia die on a full moon?
Because that is when witches have their
greatest power. I know this. I know
this for a truth.
So it only makes sense that you would call Larry
Nichols. You gotta call him. You gotta call
Larry Nichols. So one thing
that's made me really sad lately
is in the present
day, Larry Nichols just
passed away not too long ago.
And I'm not sure if it happened on some
episode that I didn't see
or maybe during his marathon at like 3
in the morning, they did a 21 gun
sweet to Larry.
But I haven't heard high to nor
hair of rest in peace Larry
Nichols and kind of memorializing.
I'm sure on some weird
YouTube channel that
I don't know of and put on by
someone I've never heard of before.
Someone is eulogizing
him in some meaningful way.
But I
know that I've touched on this a tiny bit, but I
really resent it. It really bums me out.
It does to me too. I was the one
who texted you earlier that we have to memorialize
Larry Nichols. It feels weird
to me for somebody to have such an outsized
impact and to go with
no fanfare. Yeah, and I don't want
to turn this into some kind of thing where
we're making a joke of the fact that he
passed.
I
want to recognize
Scalia killed him.
I want to recognize him
for who he was. Yeah, he and
he mattered. God damn it.
Yeah, he did.
Look, I know it's awful.
Look, the world as it is obviously
is, you know, it is Scalia's
or Nichols isn't the most famous
person on the plane that went down, you know.
So I get why it's like
if this was a slow news day, maybe somebody
digs out, you know, like,
here's what Larry Nichols did. Here's what
he ruined, you know, all that stuff.
But to have nothing
from people who are like his friends.
Yeah, like if you were somebody
who had a couple of good albums and you died
the same year as Bowie and Prince
sure, sure, you're never going to
know to rank in the retrospective,
perhaps right. But for our
show, we like look at Alex stuff
and Larry Nichols is
such a huge part of Alex's
career, his history
from the 90s when
the Clintons were actually in play
and Bill was president
and through the
times of our listening to it, like the
2015 period where Larry's
talking about witches. Yeah.
And like some of the most memorable
things on our show have come from
like, I'm actually
very sentimental about
our very, very first
t-shirt was was called Larry
Nichols, you know, the note
referencing the Wayne Madsen
story. It's just, it's been part of our
mythology since the, since damn near the
beginning. Yeah, and like some of the
things that have been the most funny
have been things like when Larry
threatened to blackmail Robert
Mueller.
Yeah, yeah, Larry, Larry
goes into our Hall of Fame all time
big swings guy. Yeah, you know, he'll
pull it out. He'll pull out a big swing.
Yeah, Obama wants to
crash the entire world so
he can be king because if you're the
president, when everything goes down, you become
king and everybody
who's in Congress becomes Dukes and Duchess
in the secret constitution.
Yeah.
Oh man, just hard
rice, soft rice, like listening to Larry
Nichols lie to my face about hard rice
and soft rice. Yeah, that's fantastic.
Adam Schiff goes to Egyptian themed
six parties.
We dance around pyramids.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He brought a lot of joy in terms
of being somebody who's so desperate,
so craven, such a
real shithead and
sort of transparent liar.
It was pretty easy
to mock a lot of the things that
but like you're saying, it's
a result of the big swing.
Yeah, and
you know, I will
miss that, although there are plenty
of episodes from the past we could go
to. Sure, sure, sure.
But I wanted to check
in on
one of the times that we
hadn't heard that Alex
called in Larry
to come up with a big story
for a big story.
You know, Scalia's dead and I don't
know, maybe Alex couldn't get a hold of Steve.
Oh man, this is a sad episode.
We got dead Scalia, we got
Larry Nichols Memorial. How's Don to Grand
Prey doing bad news? Oh shit.
Yeah, sorry. So earlier
in the episode, Alex had said
that it was 98% chance that Scalia
was murdered. Yes. Alex is going to
get a downgrade that just a tiny bit.
And our reporters from the ground in
Southwest Texas on a dangerous mission
to go down there and investigate
the death of Scalia.
Dangerous mission. I've talked to
some of the establishment folks
and that is people big in
the media who were at the establishment
level. And
they are concerned.
Obviously, and you know, folks see this for what it
is, it's about a 98% chance
97% chance it was he was killed.
Love it.
Such a thank you for being more
specific there. Alex Jones is a master
of lowering the stakes.
Yeah. What is that? What percent
different? Well, it went down because
establishment journalists are only
afraid and they didn't they didn't
confirm it 98% chance.
Let me be clear. 97%
look
I rounded up from 97%
to 98% as we all normally
do. Why split that was
imprecise imprecise
so stupid.
I like it, but it's dumb.
So Alex plays a little bit of George
straight coming out of commercial
all right and you know
I think he and I both like this.
Yeah.
All right, that's George straight
bringing us in with an old but a good
Amarillo by morning
up from San
and tone.
And we are joined for the next 30
minutes by Larry Nichols. Boy, that is
just two different shows right there
and coming in from break it's
just so he's just
in the wrong job got traffic
on the two. Yeah, I know
just fucking that was great. Just roll
with that. Just keep going. Yeah,
it's it's a it's a guy coming
in for a talk show
that's just boring and nothing's going
on at the beginning and then
we're going to talk to Larry Nichols for
half hour. Different show.
We're coming back from a little George
straight right now traffic on the
94 with the Kennedy is moving a little
bit slowly but other than that now
we've got noted conspiracy theorist
and wacko Larry Nichols come on in here
so you might be asking yourself
what exactly does Larry burning to the
table now that the Supreme Court Justice
has passed away. Of course. What does he know
what is the topic what are we going to be
talking about. He's a tough old egg
and he joins us on
Clarence
Thomas.
Is he in danger and
I'm just going to leave it at that see what he has to say about it
and how that ties
into this Kalia
situation now
here's the game that's being
played yes
they are
insisting that Clarence
Thomas told Larry Nichols
some inside baseball information
yes but yes
Larry can't
confirm or reveal that he talks
to Clarence Thomas well why
Alex can't give up the game but
he also knows
that it's probably bullshit and he wants Larry
just to say it. It's totally
bullshit
what is Clarence
Thomas doing talking to Larry Nichols
I don't know but like the game
that they're playing is that both of them
need the audience to believe all this
information is coming from Clarence Thomas
but they can't attribute it to you
well they can't say that Clarence Thomas said it
that's on you
so it's a limitation in terms of
how they could present things
and Alex I think actually gets a little bit frustrated
yeah well yeah of course he does
he's not used to dancing around like an
idiot like this yeah so
Larry wants to be clear
right out of the gate it doesn't
have any proof of anything
you know this time yesterday Alex
I had not talked to anyone
and I was cautioning everyone
everyone be careful
you know true definition
of a patriot I believe Alex
is one that seeks out the truth
and I wanted to be
certain of the truth
before I did the program with
you or anybody else
about Scalia
unfortunately just about
an hour ago
some of the information I'm getting
bullshit I mean I'm just gonna be honest
guys this thing's starting to wreak I have it
now I'm not saying Alex I have
any proof okay
don't do the interview then
now
a patriot is somebody who's
interested in the truth and I didn't want
to come on your show before I knew the truth
an hour ago Clarence Thomas
called me this thing stinks
I don't know anything about the truth
I have no proof of the truth
I don't know what the truth is here
but I'm seeking
it out yeah I'm a patriot
it doesn't matter if I'm right or not do you
notice it doesn't matter if you get the truth
you just seek it out I'm going
to do everything in my power to present
this as a Clinton
murder but I'm also
going to really stress to you that I
can't prove shit I can't prove any of it
I can't prove any of this no I'm just making
you fucking dare tell your audience that
Clarence Thomas told me this do not hold
my feet to the fire on this yeah it's
this just this dance of
like Clinton's did it but also I refuse
to be definitive what are you a military
specialist on CNN get the fuck out of here
we're in a situation
with Scalia to where
this thing's burning out of control
now who did it why did
they do it if it was done
all I can tell you Alex
is usually
when it walks like a duck quacks like
a duck it's going to be
a duck and I'm
afraid that's where we're headed but let's
not forget one thing
there are two important things
that are going to affect the career
the future of this election
ever one of them
this election for the presidency and now
the appointment of the
Supreme Court justice
I forgot the last one
so you tell me
what does it look like to you
ducks
is it ducks?
so we have I don't know the who
I don't know the what happened
I don't know if it happened but if it looks
like a duck
probably a duck
darkwing
I don't know who what or if
but if it looks like a duck
they said I don't know anything
but it was murder
this is irresponsible
I like it I like it because
he has no bones about it just like
everybody else pretends they have
any like proof for it and he's just like
I don't know what's going on I don't
know why it's going on probably murder
probably
it's probably an Arkansas
of course which is the term that is
thrown around for the Clinton murders
absolutely proven definitive
100% proven
Hillary Clinton is one of the most prolific serial killers
she is killed and she will kill again
maybe a thousand people
her podcast is just recordings of the murder she's committed
yeah
remember what we used to do Alex
with the old Clinton days with the Arkansas
just we called them in the day
there's one thing you always did you had to
commit a suicide that was impossible
or die of death that was virtually impossible
but at the same time
who was the only person
that benefited
he bought them
now look at this case
who are the only people
that benefit from Scalia dying
fucking nobody
who
and I'm telling you
it's starting to look bad
starting to look bad for the whole team
so even if you just take Larry based on that clip
his standard for this being an Arkansas
fails to be met
he says that it has to be like an impossible
suicide which it wasn't
so that classic feature of the Clinton murders
not present well then there's the question
of who stands to gain or
quote Alex
hey smart guy one would naturally
think that the Dems are the que
who stand to bono since a conservative
justice is dead and Obama's president
so he can replace Scalia with a progressive judge
oh those idiots
if that were the plan then looking back
I would have to conclude that no one was interested
in following through with it
if there was some kind of a conspiracy that
involved the murder of a supreme court justice
which pays off with an appointment of a
new more liberal justice
kind of doesn't make much sense for the group
to be powerful enough to pull off the hard part
and then completely fuck up the easy
almost procedural part
almost insanely easy part
as we are now discovering
what possible explanation could there be
for this group to have gone through with the killing of Scalia
then when it's time to replace him
it turns into a congressional standoff
the explanation can't be
that the GOP opposed the globalists
because at this point they're still
very much anti-Trump Cretan
sure at the time of this episode
the GOP primary is still ongoing
with Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Ben Carson
and Jeb Bush all still having active
campaigns
Carly Fiorina and Chris Christie
have been out of the race within a week
from this recording
the GOP had not yet bent over backwards entirely
to Trump and there was a large contingent
who thought Ted Cruz had a chance
after his win in the Iowa caucus
and a competitive showing on Super Tuesday
which actually hadn't even happened
by the time of this recording
what I'm getting at is that at this point
the GOP is still the blue blood, never-Trump
Republican party that Alex thinks is in league
with the globalists
Mitch McConnell who spearheaded the blockage
of the Trump administration process
wouldn't even endorse Trump until May
and in June he was quoted in the New York Times
as being open to rescinding that endorsement
of course
if there was anything to the globalist conspiracy
to kill Scalia and replace him
then based on the political alignments
that Alex has established
there's literally no reason why McConnell
and the GOP should be getting in the way of that plan
there's a big hole in the theory
of the qui bono in this case
no one wins
that wants to respect Mitch McConnell
for pulling off one of the most blatantly
bullshit things that's ever happened
but the more I think about it
the more I realize
it was just he was playing against a stupid opponent
like all he did was make up some bullshit
and got people to believe it
he was playing against an opponent who thought there were rules
because things do work better when there are rules
but those were part of the rules
they are just willing to accept
rules that are made up for them
to deal with it's very pathetic
I'm more disappointed
with the people who continually
allow Mitch McConnell to fleece them
his transparent
bullshit is insane
it is unfortunate when people
just continue to take
something like that
constantly
look there's
some elements of
Scalia's death that maybe could be taken as a message
well his family killed him
I don't know if that's true
but there was a pillow
because he died in bed
there was a pillow
and immediately it was reported that it was on his face
but that is not accurate
it was just sort of like on his head
because he was laying in bed
because he was laying on a pillow
but this is a message
the pillow's on the face
is that a message to everybody though that is awake
I think
I think they're trying to let us know
I think they're trying to let someone know
Alex and I'm afraid
that someone may be
Donald Trump
that someone may be the other
judges on the
court
judges you talk to
yes that uh
we can get to anybody
just fucking say Clarence Thomas already
to stop dancing around this
so dumb
I like the idea that
if there was a pillow on his face
it was an obtuse
message to people who are awake
because if you're awake
they'll put the pillow on your face
if the pillow's under your head
then you're fine no no no no
it's a message to Trump and Clarence Thomas
that we can get to you
if you go to an Illuminati lodge in the middle of Texas
there was something
I don't know
anyway Larry's safe
because he's at home
and he's got a big old knife
which to hide off the Clintons
every time the Clintons
get near power
people are going to die
people are going to die
this is not the first
and this won't be the last
you notice Alex
back here behind me buddy I got a
Betsy my
little 18 inch buoy that I keep
with me even here at the house because
I'm telling you these people play rough
am I saying Hillary
ordered them dead no am I saying
somebody actually whacked him no
but from everything
I see
somebody sending somebody
a message
what the fuck are you saying
am I saying it was a
no but I am saying
it was a message
slippery asshole
did it happen
don't even know
not important I can't prove it
however it smells fishy
it's a message
to someone I don't know who
so this next clip
starts with Larry
I'm just going to diffuse this
also I want to touch on that last clip
really fast before we move on
I can't imagine a scenario where
an old man in poor health
with an 18 inch knife
could fight off whatever the Clintons
go I don't know
I mean I assume
we're in a place now where I'm assuming
they think that Hillary does it personally
it must be like every
she goes there she's wearing a balaclava
and then like covered head to toe
in one of those plastic things
so she can't leave any fucking shit behind
I had a really good idea for a product
what's that
it's a balaclava in the shape of a
it just looks like balaclava
oh so it's a
wait it's a balaclava that looks like a
it's a mask but it looks like
balaclava it's a pattern of
flaky dough
I thought it was balaclava in the shape of a mask
someone's made this
anyway, diffusing this
Larry starts this next clip talking about how butts
are puckered with fear
and then Mike down for this because
everything goes very ominously
but there are a lot of people
their butts are puckered like mine right now
and as a matter of fact I'm going to walk to
the door because right out my door
is a big black
SUV that is pulled up
I'm going to walk make sure
that they're not
wanting inside this house for stuff
I'll be right back
I know what you told me 20 minutes ago I can't stand this
I can't stand her in this stuff and I'll be able to talk about it
so
it doesn't believe that for a second
no
0
if that were true even if
it was even a little bit possible it would have been like
oh who do you think
it could be not even that just
I heard what you said I'm sick of it
yeah
Larry's got a van outside
and uh
you didn't even you heard him not
move
you heard him still sitting down
while he said I'm going to head over to the door
well I actually am really
certain that there's not anything going on
outside his house for a reason that I'll make
clear in a little bit okay okay
but yeah so there's a van out there
there he goes apparently
allegedly he goes and
looks out there and then the van disappears
I would argue
he audibly continues to sit
do you understand
but the van like it's all Larry coming
and then it went away
and then it turns out the van
makes a reappearance later
Saturday morning and I don't have
only done this like four other times
I do in my key managers and I said get to the office
now hell's about to break loose
and we were all here for seven hours
and the last two that had already broken
we didn't even know because I was in my conference room
and I was actually live streaming
saying something big is about to happen I didn't even know this had happened yet
is the SUV back
yeah that's alright
there let him sit there I mean
long as you're sitting there
and I'm sitting here I'm not that worried
thank god you got that 18 inch knife
this is like
they're sitting there and I'm sitting here
I'm not worried sure
I thought your butt was very puckered right now
well no that was just general
that wasn't about the van that was a general
and a lot of people have it
because of the death of a supreme court justice
naturally yeah of course
so Larry quickly
makes this van appearing
have to do with the fact that
he got a call from Clarence Thomas
an hour before this
tell me what it is I just
found out an hour an hour and a half ago
that makes people be in my yard just quick
tell me
well you told us and I just wish you told
everybody else right now
I would if I could
I just can't
cause who it was
in case they kill you right now
it's big
that's all I can tell you
it's big I mean
and you didn't give it the specifics
you're talking to supreme court justice
they didn't even bother
to cover this up
in any
reasonable manner
I mean don't you see that folks
they didn't even bother
to hide it
this is in your face Alex
so it is a murder and you do know that
sure what are you doing
what is the point
what is the story
everything
what do you think the story is
you pick you know what I like about this
I like that Alex is like Larry
yeah you told us what happened
in case the people of that black man kill you
they're very stoic
he's exhausted with the idea of trying to keep this going
in case they kill you right now Larry
in case they kill you
those guys who are outside your house
right now kill you
those totally real guys
100% outside of your house
very bored with this attempt at radio theater
that's war of the worlds
but he's just like oh there are aliens
outside my door oh boy
sure there are
as long as those aliens are out there
and I'm in here I'm fine
I got an 18 inch knife that I call Betsy
so
you know I mean
I have to eat my hat
because there's proof
Larry Nichols is with us for holding him over
he did on his cell phone get a photo
of the black SUV at his rural home
that is
backing into his drive
and then he's up there on a hill pulling out
when he comes back out
but he was able to get a photo and your skype's pretty clear
Larry try to hold
the photo part
the screen up as close as you can
in front of your face and then forward
towards the camera
I'm trying to find it again
you just took it
you lied to me
you should have hopefully just took it
you liar
I know you're not super technical believe me
I'm not
I don't know what I've done with it
I was holding it up
you're showing it
shit
delete that
oh no way
you just
fucking took it
at the video this
this show is so hilarious
cause if you watch it
it's like Alex clearly frustrated
in studio
and then the video is Larry sitting in his living room
holding a flip phone up to his laptop
oh my god
what are we fucking doing
this is so funny
so Larry can't figure it out
and this gets to be a problem because
I mean obviously
Alex realized like no one believes
no one buys this bullshit
we need some proof
is the SUV still there
okay get up
they backed up and they moved further down
I'm going to take another picture if you can hold
go one second
go out there we're going to stay with you
dead air
and I'll try to drive off
believe me I've known this guy for 20 years folks
he's not bs'ing
he only bs's
that's his job
you wouldn't need to say that if I wasn't already
convinced that he was only being
full of shit yeah
if you notice Larry's dog barks
there
and what that tells you is that the dog wasn't
barking earlier
there was a van there
people were out it was very threatening
the dog had no interest
uh-huh
hey to quote
Larry's feelings about Scalia's death
something stinks here
hold on let me search back
through my pictures to find that picture
I supposedly just took right now
I'm not going to come down on it too hard
for that because it is a flip phone
and those things were really difficult to navigate
oh that's right he does have a flip phone
I forgot
Larry had an iPhone
that's fair he was still using a motor
roll at the time
so they do eventually flash up what's
supposed to be a picture of the van
in front but I mean it's like on a flip
phone on a video definitive
you can't tell anything definitive proof
no
I can see the plates with my
mind's eye even if it was the clearest
picture ever of someone
in a van taken on a flip phone
I still don't think that's proof
I don't buy it there's getting
images in the bottom right
get the fuck out of it
Alex is like I wish
I was there I wish I was there to
protect you yeah and confront that van
sure I wish I was there
right now and do you have any family
that's home right now
no just me me and you
me and you and the dogs
and your bulldog and the millions watching
and listening man I tell you
well let's put us a dress out for folks that are in
Arkansas right now folks
he gives us a dress out
Kingsington Drive
Alex tells like truckers
we're in the area to show up
at Larry's house
save Larry from this van
no one buys this bullshit in the first place
no Alex doesn't either
no of course he doesn't
let's see if people
around will stop by your house I guess
I wish I was there Larry
I have to act like I care
and if Alex sincerely believes
that Larry's life is in danger
because he's talked to Clarence Thomas
who has told Larry that it's a murder
and now there's a black van
outside Larry's house that's going to kill him
they should not stop the interview
for anything
the only thing that's protecting Larry's
life is the fact that he's alive
alright Larry we're gonna let you go
hope you survive buddy alright we'll see you later
yeah we gotta check in with a weirdo
who's at a truck rally I gotta take
some calls Larry hope you survive
this one good luck
but the van
much like the pillow
sure is a message okay
who is it what is this all about
you know here again they're sending
a message to somebody
who knows Alex maybe it's you
have you looked outside
your building
oh we're not really worried about it
this is like uh Larry you're
full of shit and I'm not worried Larry
come on buddy the game's up
this is the most incompetent
kind of radio theater
there's no drama here the game is up Larry
come on
we failed you know what sucks too is
like I think if Alex were more of a giving
partner uh-huh I think that they could
make this work yeah I think that if
Alex were acting actually concerned
or scared sure sure anything
like that he could really heighten this into
being something that like
I don't know I think Larry
is the reason that we're we're not getting
anything good out of this because Larry's
just coming with too big a swing with the van
and the lies no it's perfect
no okay come on come on
if you're trying to be like
I got secret information
of course there would be a van outside
well yeah there has to be of course it's archetypal
it's uh you know yeah but
see that's where we get back to the I don't
know who did it I don't know what happened
and I don't know if it even happened at
all that's not what's gonna get you killed
man but that's what you say in hour one
sure okay
the plan is to
basically treat this like a hostage situation
where you have taken Alex's show hostage
if there's a van that's gonna kill you outside
you have to stay on air in order to stay alive
I like that hour three that's when
you bring in hold on I was just saying that
to stay alive alright I was just saying I didn't
know what was going on to stay alive back at the beginning
of the show I see a sequel to stock
home syndrome on this one right here did
they make a third speed move
yeah
you have to keep your bullshit
flying at less than 40 miles an hour
otherwise they get you
I could just see
I hate to I hate to say
this like because it seems kind of like
I don't know
disrespectful to people's reality but
this isn't real yeah
I could have written this way better
totally if I were a producer at Info Wars
I could have been like guys this is
just one tweak away from being
interesting yeah as it is
you guys are just embarrassing
the shit out of yourselves yeah you
got to sell it yeah you got to sell it
they're not selling it because
the stakes should be enormous
yeah and if you're presenting
this as Larry has really
really super deep important information
that he's gotten from Clarence Thomas
but we can't say it's Clarence Thomas
then you have a responsibility
to give something and I'll
tell you what that thing should not be
just the fake van the fake
van is not going to do it
but it's important it is important
it's important as a looming threat
sure you need you need
your A story to be strong
and then the van is a great B
story right right right it's a great
side protagonist sure antagonist
excuse me sure sure sure but you need your
main plot to be a little bit
more thought out than this you need
the actors Alex and Larry
yeah to be a little bit more invested
sure you need them like Alex seems
to just be poo pooing the almost
the entirety of this well
I mean it's to it's really transparent
he seems to be looking at Larry like we
do yeah yeah
there is that but that's I think again
that's Larry's fault he's instead of the
who what if all right you got to
get least give me if you know like
he's not even willing to commit to it
was a murder other than being like
it looks like a murder like
that's Alex needs you to give him
something in order to get
consequences possibly be for Larry
fucking Nichols just say Clarence Thomas
said that his family killed him like that
would be fine Clarence Thomas found
the body because it's not you saying
it's you saying that Clarence Thomas
said it which is obviously like there's
no in court they're like oh this is
libel or something and it's like it's Larry
Nichols saying Clarence Thomas said that his
family killed him what are you going to call this
libel why what are we doing yeah public
figures yeah exactly what are we doing
here and I would say like what I don't
believe that there is an actual
relationship between Clarence Thomas
and Larry Nichols that needs to be protected
why is that
Clarence won't talk to me anymore
just make just the
absurdity of Clarence Thomas
giving Larry Nichols a call
just by itself wild boggles
my mind wild
so catching up so
I know that we make fun of the idea
that you know if
you're president when the shit goes down
you become king
if you're in Congress you become a Duke or a Duchess
that is something we make fun of you
Larry says it a lot
this this election will be the last
presidential election we'll get to be a part
of Alex that actually made
me a little bit sad because it is true
yeah Larry did not make it to the
2020 election it was correct
in that that was the last election
he got to take part in I'm sorry Larry
it is
I'm sorry it is
and I'm going to tell you something folks
we've never had more power
than we have right now
because every one of the politicians that are running
for office member third of the Senate
having to run every member of
Congress is having to run
and they know this country is about to come down
they know it's about to come down
and they want to be there
Alex when this country falls
they want to be a part of the
centrist government
that's left over
and they know if they're defeated
this election
they're out forever
forever and then they
then they can be prosecuted
so they're cornered rats
yeah and also the
2018 midterms didn't happen
no they didn't
so new other people got in
who weren't around in the
2016 election yeah but they
ran on make me your Duke
those were most of the campaigns that I heard
Duke Duke Duke
of Chicago
then is the Duke
I don't want Dick Durbin to be my Duke
get the fuck out of here
Duke Dick Durbin that's annoying
that's the only reason he's a fairly good
he's a fairly good senator but I can't do
Duke Durbin
not doing that
yeah
silly silly nonsense
so Hillary Clinton
she's gonna run sure she is running
yeah
and I actually was listening to this
I thought how funny it would be if like
Larry passes away
and then Hillary Clinton
does run
does secretly wind up yeah
does secretly wind up sneaking her way into the president
fuck god damn it I needed a nickel
how tragic that would be I would be sad
so anyway she's she's got a win
in 2016 or else there'll be
consequences for her well he wasn't wrong
you understand Alex this winter lose
for her either she gets to be
what she's wanted to be since she was
four years old the first female
president of the United States
of America and then
the most powerful couple in
the history of the world either they get that
or she goes to jail
it's not a joke
it's not a game
you think this is a game
I think if you look at some of the decisions
being looked at by the supreme court
I think you see who benefits
by Scalia dying
so you're saying it was Hillary yes
I'm pretty sure he's saying it was Hillary
Clarence Thomas called him an hour
before this show right
and said that Hillary killed Scalia yes
ah yeah yeah that sounds
true these that's the sense that you probably
would get if you were an Alex Jones
listener and you were listening to this
complete nothing
that they're doing yeah yeah
because they're not giving any information just like
this like nutty insinuation
yeah
it's not even really speculation
it's not even like
analyzing any of the information involved
literally just saying I think it looks bad
I don't know why yeah I don't know how
it's creating a narrative
and then also
constantly saying like
I don't know shit yeah exactly
pointless yeah this is
annoyingly pointless it is but
it is um you know
I always enjoy it when you listen
to a podcast
and maybe one of the hosts has learned something
new sure you know
it's like
mind-blown kind of thing
Larry has just learned something okay
Alex I didn't know about that this until
this weekend did y'all know
that since 2012 Obama
signed a presidential special order
in a hundred miles
on either side of our border to the north
to Canada
a hundred miles either side south
to Mexico east to the Atlantic
ocean west to the pacific
a hundred miles inland
is considered or called what's
called a no constitution
zone that's official they're actually calling it
absolutely
yeah do you know that
can you make no constitution
zones well here's the thing
I think the constitution would expressly
prohibit that 200 miles from
the border is the no flex zone
right that's true that's true
you're not wrong um so no I mean
this is kind of a real thing although
it's not like I mean it's not the same
as what they're saying well isn't what he talking
about the DHS's ability
to operate even though they're a federal agency
yeah yeah yeah they have
an exemption for search
right within a hundred miles of the border
which is justified by
a reasonable distance from the borders
or customs and immigration
have that kind of leeway now the part
which worked out great for us thanks Obama
I'm sure that's never going to be abused
by some other administration that comes
in immediately after but here's the problem
you're buying into Larry's bullshit
Obama didn't do that oh he didn't
no he didn't create that you can
find an article from wired from
2008 about how the ACLU
was fighting to curb the use of this
as a police search tool and it predates
Obama's time in office it's something
that's always existed as an exemption
for border searches and it
was codified into law in 1976
but after 9-11
the definitions of what specific area
around the border could be
this kind of jurisdiction that began
expanding it's a real issue
it absolutely is and it's something
that you know someone who Alex
pretends to be right this figure
in the space that he likes
to fancy himself should be
talking about and pointing out yeah
but it's just pointless
to pretend that Obama did it
yeah yeah that's the game that Larry
wants to play and it's bullshit also
congressional democrats introduced legislation
to reduce the area from 100 miles to 25
back in 2019 but
that legislation went nowhere and Alex
would probably say it was just them trying to flood
the country with undocumented immigrants
now he'd probably be in favor
of this 100 mile no flex
oh man yeah nothing
means anything no I'm so exhausted
no and the thing that's particularly exhausting
about that is the like okay what you're
talking about we could both
be opposed to for completely
different reasons yeah yeah and Larry
Nichols could both be against this
100 mile quote unquote
no constitution zone
but we would never we should
never be able to work together
on the issue yeah actually don't agree
yeah yeah I mean the thing about
that though is even if we
come to it from different perspectives
that does mean that we could
just stop it
you know like we could just
stop doing it like that's
the thing that boggles my mind
all too often with this stuff is like
yeah Larry let's fucking get rid
of that 100 miles bullshit
I'm with you so let's all just do
that shit but it never
like it's just one of those political
inertia things where it's just like ah it seems
like too much work wow
anyway
we have one last clip here from the 16th
and it's Alex
fixing the issue
that is Larry will be killed by these people
in that van if they hang up
who will Larry Nichols call
what's gonna be on Larry Nichols's note
call me
stay in contact we're gonna have us
on speed dial we're gonna keep the Skype connected
and we're not gonna let them know when it's
getting turned off by my friend
and we're gonna stay in contact and you'll
be back with us tonight the minute
we have the info let us know we'll tape it
for the nightly news we'll get it out instantly
because yeah they've got
their operatives and other people
their wind-ups that they've actually got lined up here
in town and believe me we've got some of the same issues
you've got but it'll take them a while to activate
those people just
just keep it up and God bless you
and as you know folks
I still got a pile of damn medicine
I gotta get and I got nothing to get it with
so I'm embarrassed as hell
yeah you've come in almost 20 years never
help but you're broken in fighting cancer
Nichols live at AOL
you got bigger issues man you got a van out in front of your house
you can't
hey man it makes me a little sad
just because I'm five minutes away from
death doesn't mean I still can't plan
for the future fair enough
so he's not on the nightly news
on the evening of February 16th
and the next time that Larry's name
shows up in the episode descriptions
for Alex's show is the 24th
and this is the next time
that Larry was on
and I wanted to know
what the fuck Clarence Thomas told him
sure sure sure sure because I listened to that whole thing
and there was nothing nothing there was
just a van no nothing
yeah nothing going to our guests Larry
Nichols Clinton insider doesn't need any introduction
I've been interviewing him for 20 years
but on air 21 years
and he's the constant
Clinton insider the Clinton Chronicles all of it
couldn't be done without him so Larry's on
let's talk about it
let's talk about this information
now I know early on
in the Clinton administration they try to destroy
certain people that were being nominated to the
Supreme Court
that's what Nichols got to know them
and Nichols became an early source on the internet
for a lot of folks out there
and he's battling cancer right now
and obviously needs your prayers that's another issue
but one reason he hadn't been almost the last few days
also it took him a few days to get back in touch
with this person okay so Clarence Thomas
is tough to get a hold of sure that's
imagine he's busy being a Supreme Court justice
and not asking any questions
and in general trying to destroy the world
yeah so I mean hey
the first appearance
was February 16th we're now at the 24th
sure you know we're a good eight
days later Larry
has gotten back in touch
with Justice Thomas
who they
refuse to just be up front
about no hey no it could be
any Supreme Court justice any one of them
it could be
Roberts
so they needed
Larry to come back on Alex did
because the audience naturally
and I completely agree the audience is a reaction
based on by listening to the 16th episode
what the fuck is he talking about
that's a good question we need to know the information
please hope you're taking care of yourself
thank you for coming on with us obviously people
have been calling emailing tweeting
Alex where's Larry Nichols
when are you gonna tell us what the Supreme Court justice said
when are you gonna tell us what happened
well you've been busy and weren't ready to comment
you still say this person
now that you talked to doesn't want to
have what they told you discussed
but let's start with the black
sedan last
what was it last Wednesday
that was out your driveway that would drive away
every time you went out there but you got photos of it
driving away yeah so we come
back and it's like hey
I can't talk about anything we get
no information about it but hey
guess what let's talk more about that
damn that's not what's the damn
yep
this is half-hearted
no but it's
yes yes it is half-hearted
but it is double
hubris
because it's
too much it's comical
it's comical Larry Nichols is
supposed to come on and give Alex some big
scoop or at least take the heat
for some kind of a bullshit narrative
something
you know all this like buildup of Clarence
Thomas called you like it was
good it was set the foundation
was there Larry refused to play ball
just land the plane all you got to do
is land the plane look at that van out there
isn't that scary yep and now that becomes
the whole thing yeah all we can go
back to is hey what about that van what are
we doing do you want to know about that van sure
well technically what that
was was homeland security
technically and they told the police here
that they had no jurisdiction over
them and they could do any damn thing they
wanted to do and pretty much let them
believe that I had a one-way ticket
to Gitmo
what that meant I have no idea
and Alex if they won't pay
58 Kensington Drive Conway, Arkansas
I've never hidden it
come on let's do what's got to be
done just don't bore me to death
I think a lot of it has to do Alex
with and how I
end up in the middle of this drunk Alex I
never can figure out but you can do
I think with you make it up
I was working you make it up that's how you
get up there I love that moment
for two reasons one is
the that's do we got to do just don't bore me
just a kill me or no kill me
I'll boy cocky cocky
asshole which I love
but then the
how do I find myself in the middle of
these things it's just that record
scratches you probably
asking how I find myself
in the middle of those things you probably
asking how I ended up becoming
entrenched in clean conspiracy theories
well it's because I made up a bunch
of bullshit hey Khalid
how do you like being here
at Gitmo with me
I do like they like they said
that I had a one-way ticket to get but whatever
that means you know what that means
whatever that means come on
Larry um so yeah
there's no uh there's no uh
spelling out of uh what was going on
and we got to get to other stories
now Alex you got another
bit of news for you
the Republican hierarchy
this establishment
they have decided to forego fighting
Donald Trump
they're not gonna fight him wow
wow so it's not
quite what you think uh-huh
they're not going to fight him but
at the convention
they're gonna fuck him oh okay
that makes sense there's gonna be a contested convention
and Trump's gonna get screwed at the convention
wouldn't that have been lovely that's the story
that they've got going on yeah it's pretty boring
uh and and and far more
interesting is Larry
trying to rationalize why
Obama hasn't just
put in a supreme court justice
I mean he's a dictator sure
he's a tyrant yeah yeah
obviously based on every
characterization that they've ever had of Obama
it's been eight days yeah uh since
we've done he should have
decreed at the moments until he had died
the only reason the Republicans
are blocking the hearing
or give the sense that they're
blocking the hearing is to get them
through this election cycle
once the election cycle is over
in November they fully intend to address
the situation with Obama
and put in a supreme court justice
before the next legislature
or the next congress and that's what Obama keeps
saying in due time people want it now
he's gonna wait till after the election
which shows there's a deal going on behind the scenes
exactly that's what I try
to tell people they're not two teams
Alex there's not it's one
none of this happened none of that happened
nope because they're just making it up honestly
I think I would have preferred
that happened it's it's an
interesting it's an interesting way to
rationalize why the GOP
is acting like an adversarial
party when your entire
worldview depends on them being the same
team yeah it is it's an interesting
way to walk around that
although
wrong yes in every
way yep so they're still
talking I know this was something that they
discussed Larry and Alex discussed
a bid in 2015 and that was that
Obama was gonna be king for life sure
sure they discuss
that here a little bit
if they steal it from Trump
there's gonna be civil unrest and maybe that's
what Obama wants then he'll trigger
he's got his black lives matter group
thought out ready to activate
you know that's the thing Alex that people
need to know we're getting boxed in
people can think Obama's messing up
hey that old boy's pulling every trick he wants to
pull he's pulling it
and you're exactly right he would love
nothing better than for Trump
to get cheated out of the election for there
to be an uprising and then boom he's
now king you don't have to worry about a president
he'll be it he'll be king
forever at least until he doesn't want to be king
yeah we know how kings do that they just
get I'm done you know
this is exactly the situation
that Alex describes all the
time where it's like I know that's what
they would do that's what I would do
where we're like listening to them describe
all of the stuff that Trump is actively
trying to do it feels like
he's there's but that's one
of the things that makes me always be very
like hyper
cautious about thoughts like that is like
am I succumbing to
similar feelings as
like what Alex had sure
and if Obama had
if he had said I'm going to be president
for another 12 years I think there's a different
situation it won't that really piss people off
exactly like what are you talking
about yeah it's not similar
at all but it it's
you have to check in on it right
because of that right and the other thing
that's really interesting here is like you hear
this and Alex is like Obama's got
his black lives matter it's like it's the exact
same thing this is so
yeah four years in the past
but one glaring
difference Alex didn't know about
Antifa no that's that point that's true
even though he's known about Antifa for 20
years yeah yeah yeah no mention
of that or demon it seems like
that would be really important if he knew
about Antifa knew that they were
teamed up with black lives matter and the
devil right he should have warned us
all the way back in 2016 no plan B
is already about to be started
what if he had told us in 2016 about
plan B there's not even a plan
four years to help out with plan B
and now here we are we're screwed
so we have one last clip here
from Larry's appearance on the 24th
and
I will say that my sense
from listening to these interviews
is that Larry wants the audience to believe
that Hillary Clinton is behind
the murder of Antonin Scalia yes that sounds
right that seems to be
his main point he's a little
one note when we get down to it every
you everything winds up
getting back to Hillary Clinton trying to kill people
there's another clip I wish I would cut this clip
but there's a point where Larry seems
to think that it's going to come down to him
versus Hillary
like like a matrix
situation like
Hillary is agent Smith he's Neo
and they're going to do battle there's a
hundred yeah exactly
okay yeah all right
that makes sense now it's just going to come down
to me I do like
no Larry like that belief system
so I think that that is what
he's pushing as the thing that he wants
the audience to believe the Clarence Thomas
had told him but he doesn't want the
responsibility of having to be on the hook for any
sure sure sure yeah yeah so it really
makes me pissed off when he says something like this
all right let me say it this way as you know Alex
I have never said the Clintons
ever actually killed anybody
I've never ordered them to be killed
now talking about Hillary would she
be the kind of person that would have
no trouble
saying off the guy
Hillary would do it in a second
in a second that's so
man unbelievable the thing
that I've made my entire career out of
saying you know I've never said
anything like that you know I would never
said that Hillary killed anyone
or ordered any assassinations but
I know from her temperament
that she wouldn't be against it
why would you do that to us
why would you abuse us in that way
what an asshole
what a dick
what a world-class dick
anyway I don't care to
mock the dead
but I do think that there's something
still very fun
about celebrating the life and career
of somebody who
was this transparent
of a dick
and it somehow made a career out of it
and honestly I believe
I mean we talked to Larry
you talked to him a couple times
and I've listened
to a shit ton of
him on various shows
and I don't think he would
have a problem with us laughing at him
absolutely not
if I were him
I would expect this
no I think
based on our conversations
this is absolutely
something that he would delight in
probably like when we talked to him
and he was spitting his bullshit you could tell
he had a bit of a smile on as we were like
you're full of shit and he was like
you can believe what you want to believe
and it's like yeah we both know that we don't
believe that neither do you stop it
so I mean no disrespect
to his family members
who survived him
and you know
we want to like piss on a grave
or anything to use Alex type terms
but
I also think that
I want to take a moment to recognize
the brand of bullshit
that has come into our lives
thanks to him and
it is a momentous moment
whether Alex will accept it or not
and maybe coach Dave
I bet Dave Dobbinmeyer did an episode
well I mean he had Larry on a bunch of times
I should go check
I don't know this is one of those things
where it kind of feels to me like
this is the cutthroat world
of right wing propaganda
is once you stop being useful
whether you're alive or dead you're just
gone I worry about that too
I worry about that too
and the reason I can't make any kind of
definitive statements is because
there are episodes that I haven't listened to
there's a decent chance that two minutes
of one of them is Alex saying
rest in peace Larry or something
but based on the importance
of Larry Nichols to Alex
that's not good enough
there should be
like Alex should have commissioned a musical
or something about this
great guy they should have
done a 24 hour
the greatest hits
marathon or something
like something
yeah it's weird
that it's weird that we're like not to make fun
of his death or
not to mock the family and yet
we're like the only people who are really
paying attention to it in the first place
it seems that way
it seems like they're a non
nonic said like nonic
dealing with it is way less
it feels like it it's a little infuriating
yeah why do I care more
than Alex Jones this is a
problem for me
everyone is disposable
to an extent like we saw how
you know Alex will
turn his back on folks like Steve
or Larry if they're
at their momentary brand
of propaganda isn't what he needs
there's so many people who used
to be respected experts who
now are just you know
not
welcome in the info
war sphere and that's
it's a bummer it is a bummer because
it makes
loyalty it makes things very transactional
yeah you know like they're like with
Trump you know there's just no loyalty I
don't understand why these people constantly
think that there's some sort of
loyal reward that they'll earn they're just
gonna be tossed aside when they're useless until
they come up with something cool like
Egyptian sex parties and then they'll come back
they're right on back and then they'll go
away good bye again anyway
rest in peace Larry
we'll be back yes but until then Jordan
we have a website we do it's knowledgefight.com
yep we're also on twitter we are on
twitter it's that knowledge underscore fight and that go to bed
Jordan yep we're also on facebook we are
on facebook if you'd like to download
and if you could please find
a local charity or bail fund in your area
to help out people doing God's work right now
yep we'll be back but until then I'm Nio
I'm Leo I'm DZX Clark I'm Daryl
Rundis I was driving that black van
Andy and Kansas you're on the air thanks for holding
hello Alex I'm a first time caller I'm a huge fan
I love your work I love you