Knowledge Fight - #495: November 4-6, 2016

Episode Date: October 26, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan go back to take a look at the days just before the 2016 election to compare them to how things look nowadays. In this installment, Alex gets obsessed with art, makes fun of some random goths, and seems very different in a particular way.

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys shang we are the bad guys knowledge fight then enjoy knowledge fight need money Andy and Kansas stop it Andy and Kansas it's time to pray Andy and Hey everybody welcome back knowledge fight I'm damn I'm George we're a couple dudes like sit around drink now the two beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones oh indeed we are damn Mr. Jones if you're nasty no we can't we are not no no we're very kind people this is a family show it is family show absolutely a hundred percent Dan I have a quick question for you sure what's your bright spot why don't you go first my bright spot Dan is over the

weekend you and I got together had a lovely game night and we did not record it for a podcast yeah we could have though we there's hilarity hilarity god why don't we monetize social interaction everything now I my bright spot is that it was great we haven't really hung out too much yeah that's right of the context of business yeah so it was really good because we started we started this whole thing as just really good friends who hang out more with each other yeah and now we're back in the reverse situation where we're hanging out less professionally or more professionally than we are socially so that's true it was nice it was very lovely I enjoyed it yeah I had a great time as well yeah good times

like it what do you want me to do I'm on a tone guy that is very nice yeah my bright spot Jordan yes sir is something that's going to piss off the anti-maskers masks that would piss off the anti-maskers yes because it's winter yeah and now you got a mask it's great in Chicago a mask is a nice nice warm everybody's always like I got a beard it must be great during the winter it doesn't help that doesn't do that wind gets between the hair it does but it's not like it's not that thick a mask my friend fantastic I would like to be round upon to wear a balaclava all the time yeah I always felt very self-conscious about having like something that was a face covering sure in the winter sure previously or it was just

too burdensome or whatever you would scarf around your face or nothing no no no and you know in the past I've had some scarves but they've been tough to keep on the head of course um but now I mean it's it's great even if there wasn't a virus I'd be wearing a mask I don't know what these anti-maskers are all going on about it's very comfortable now that it's socially acceptable now that it's chilly as hell anyway this leads me to opening up the mailbag Z alright typically we have been doing some mailbag stuff on our bonus episodes which you can find even if you're not a subscriber over on patreon yes our patreon page no charge or nothing no just go to the page and that is where we've done

more of the the the zipping yeah of the mailbag but I felt like this was important to go ahead and toss over your way this is nice yes we got a couple of hats from Christina we got some hats yeah they say policy wonk and raptor princess that is fucking awesome some nice winter hats that is so cool Dan and Jordan I hope these hats keep your heads warm during the coming Chicago winter making them was a pain in the ass but you guys are worth it even though Jordan has a garbage opinion on shit I accept that so I got a post script here we harvested eleven butternut squashes off one plant this year congratulations wow that's really good had to brag to my plant guy I applaud you although I'm not a squash

guy I'm not a squash guy I'm not a gourd lord is that what they call themselves yes I don't hoard the gourds I don't know maybe I should try more maybe I've given squash a bad rap I think I think it's I think it may be something that's worth exploring in the future if you were a giant robot yeah in the Power Rangers given a title and I know I know where you're going with like to like to maintain a large number of pumpkins land it what would you be gourd sword no you would be a Lord Zord hoarding gourds oh I didn't realize I was going to have that's why the Power Rangers was involved I think you put a hat on a right the Zord is all you need that's fair that is fair anyway Jordan today we've got an

interesting episode to go over I'm gonna say that this is part one of two because something I intended to do I realized like ah there's a bit more here then can be so next Monday will be the second part of this day before the 2020 election kind of fitting because what we're doing is we're looking at the days prior to the 2016 election yes of course on the Alex Jones show a little blind spot in our history of covering Alex and I actually think that I come away from this with a bit of a new understanding of what was going on okay I think I have a working theory that I have just a lot of coke just no tons of coke now it doesn't seem like anyone's uncoke but I do think that there is a feeling that a lot of people have suggested floated that

I've been resistant to but looking at the this actual time frame makes me a little bit more open minded okay and we'll get to that as we as we go along I think we'll bear that out interesting as we do but like I said we're gonna be looking at November 4th 5th and 6th today which is Friday Saturday Sunday and actually we're not gonna look at Saturday but because it's mostly Owen Troyer and Joe Biggs right but Alex did a very special Saturday broadcast so we're gonna be looking mostly at Friday and Sunday and then part two is Monday and Alex was doing a 52 hour marathon on Monday of course culminated in the election Jesus and we're gonna be looking at the beginning stages of that all right okay next Monday and then okay gotcha but before we get to

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world to a local charity or bail fund in your area fair enough thank you so Jordan we're gonna get our toes in the water here on the fourth November 4th 2016 okay Alex has some big news how did it go the election did not go great for things that we would have wanted to happen that's fair um Alex has some big news there's a there's a there's a headline about the FBI all right the FBI said quote we believe she's the antichrist and will destroy the world if you actually go further what they said that they believe that she'll want to destroy the earth the FBI doesn't talk like that folks I told you a month ago I said Obama and Hillary are devil worshipers the Secret Service has told me members of the military have told me

that Obama seems really nice and then all of a sudden you'll be walking down the hall and it's like in fact I didn't tell you half of it okay just it's these people are scared I told you they're having nightmares they don't want to be there it's it's very dark is is the words I was told and Hillary's even worse folks okay so we were looking at earlier in 2016 yeah and noting how little demon there was no zero demon now by November 4th immediate really hard already the demons the FBI yeah went apocalypse on us and said that Hillary Clinton was going to end the world that were there were documents or well there there was a London Guardian I believe a Guardian headline maybe I don't remember exactly what paper was in but some anonymous FBI person came out and

said that hey there's a lot of people who think that she's a satan incarnate all right speaking metaphorically of course but I would hope so but Alex has now taken that as like kind of literal she is a she is basically the Beelzebub walking the earth is our next investigation going to be the moment that we went from metaphorical devil to literal devil I hope not but it is interesting to me that within the span of this year that tone does seem to have shifted quite a bit yeah yeah like it's this episode is a lot of satan sure and so by at least November 4th 2016 that shift is notable yeah that day does make sense though like this is back to our the worst Trump is the worst they have to portray the enemy as and we're already at the point now where Trump is so

bad the only thing worse is the literal Christian devil some somewhat I think the other thing is the popularity of the online pizza gate stuff that's true and there was so much of that the dipped into the occult right the macabre and that's true yeah I think that that is a large portion of it because it's kind of like hey get get there how you get there you know if there's a train heading where you're going jump on that train sure sure and if that train happens to be talking about the devil all the time well that's the train you're going to be on yeah and that train will jump a shark eventually yep and uh Alex talks a lot a lot about Podesta's emails sure this is who Podesta and Hillary run with Podesta goes this is in his emails to the events and they discuss

what's on the menu placentas flesh parts blood lots of blood mainly blood and they talk in clear code about what else is on the menu what's that in the menu promo pack it shows a child severed head appears to be an effigy with the ground up blood being dumped on top of it the the blood and other tissues like there isn't a ceremonial cookie made to look like a child that is black purple blood that is enjoyed now this is all in Alistair Crowley's writings that's why instantly this morning when I saw it in Paul Watson's story that's up on dredgerport.com I knew what it was ah hey look it's a gingerbread man gingerbread

man they're eating a man cookie all right so now we're bringing Crowley is right into our mythology well Crowley knew what was going on Crowley was not a charlatan or a liar here's how Alex would thread that needle okay I'm not saying he's right but they think he's right sure and therefore we must fight them as if they are okay all right fine fine so Crowley's in play is what we're doing yeah I went ahead and searched through all the Podesta emails that WikiLeaks released that included the word menu and I'm not sure I came to similar conclusions that Alex did for some context the word appears 211 times in the released messages the first email that comes up is between the Podestas and Ashok and Amitra Mahbubani the exchange was about planning a dinner party when

the Mahbubanis they returned from Morocco and the dishes suggested were mixed grill of tandoori chicken lamb and Lahori fish garlic naan Greek yogurt with shredded cucumber and a lentil dish yeah but they put children in there that's why it's called naan the next is a Georgetown alumni association uh association message which includes a bunch of different events including a cooking class quote with a menu of florentine favorites such as Tuscan country soup and ravioli with shrimp and scallops ah shrimp and children the next is an email that was a briefing of for hillary about participants in an upcoming technology roundtable discussion one of them that was the founder of a startup called munchery which provides oh what are they much odd well

they have daily changing menus for people to order delivery from changing by children there's one email from Kristen Gillibrand and fighting Podesta to a Labor Day barbecue at her house with the sinister line quote we'll be serving all locally sourced foods from the Hudson Valley children are welcome we have a bounce house for them to play in such horror bounce house is just going for bounce house they they would then use the bounce house on their own a number of these emails don't even have the word menu in the body of them they just have links or embedded images in them and the code to those hyperlinks includes the word menu yeah i didn't find anything even close to what alex is describing nor any mentions of this menu that has code words or anything he's

he's talking just about marina obama fish yeah yeah he's just talking about the artist that emailed tony and john podesta inviting them to a dinner party sure and taking all of her art as if it's so literal yeah they're all eating they're eating blood oh my god what how how do you get there how do you get there into believing that people just drink blood wow like it's gross have you ever drank blood i mean i've had like a bit my lip before you tasted blood there's all irony it's terrible if you drink like imagine getting like a whole mouth full of blood there's got to be a better way to say that than irony there's tings of iron yeah that's fair yeah i i i don't know um i don't put it past there being some people who do like to drink blood because there's people who

like to do everything yeah that's true like it's a big world no that's true people who have a lot of different interests some people might be into it for a shock value sure thing some people you know there's the it takes all kinds but to to the extent that alex is discussing or in the context that he's discussing i do not believe there are demonic right right performance artists who uh go around and invite heads of state to drink blood at their house i don't know Crowley's in play now everything everything is up for grabs uh anyway alex uh you should listen to him about this stuff because he's not sure he's not just a dumb dumb okay he's actually someone as we've heard many times yes uh who they tried to get him yeah they tried to get him into

the Satanism now i personally experienced this when i was growing up in the richest county in texas and i make that point because there were just billionaires and mansions all over the place out in the countryside and it really got to be a bummer where i wouldn't get hot girlfriends in the town anymore because i mean i just thought i was super handsome getting the senior super you know you know beautiful girl in her you know fancy Bentley or Jaguar but then i'd learn after i was dating her a week or so that that really wasn't the case i was being recruited into Satanism the way sounds right the way he's talking about i mean i know you've heard this this sort of tale a number of times but in the past i've always heard the story more as like it happened once

maybe right right like the cat fishing with the hot cheerleader uh was something that satanist tried once sure they tried other things to get him into the right i didn't realize the the way he seems to be described again now it's like he he's dating some young lady and then ah damn it not again see no no here's what i not again here's what i think i remember as far as the Satanism story because we've heard multiple iterations many by the one that i remember is that this happened when he was like 15 or so he was dating this girl for about a week and then she invited him to her house giant mansion all satanism yeah they're in the basement people are chopping up whatever yeah right alex talks about it uh in another occasion that like there were police there yes and he had

to run away through the woods yeah and then police stopped him as he was leaving like he was walking home down a road and the cops stopped him right yeah yeah it's nonsense out of a movie but i also remember that i think he said that this happened also when he was like 18 too and he even goes they caught me again i got drugged back into it again like he's the idiot here yeah it was like oh i got the fool me once shame on you the when when it's just one time it's a fun childish story that's like just cribbing from a movie but when i hear him like sort of express the idea that it kept happening to yeah yeah it makes me think more about how like we might not take uh a full perspective of how extreme alex's religion might have been as a child and he might have experienced

you know let's say dating a woman and them having liberal values sure as them trying to seduce them to the dark side sure or that's true or it could have been the way alex processed shame for having sexual urges towards these women sure that that is somehow evil or something like i i don't know i don't know if any of that is accurate at all but when i hear somebody say like it just kept happening to me these these girls i was dating kept trying to recruit me into satanism right it makes me think that there's some sort of uh like well something kept happening to him something right or or he there's something he kept experiencing yeah yeah and i'm not sure what it is but it doesn't seem like it's satanism what's what's the what's the odds on alex actually drank blood at a satanic

ritual i think low you think low yeah you don't think he actually drank blood like not even once as a dare at one of these satanism parties where i assume dares happen all the time i'm gonna say i think the odds are low that he has been to a satanism party now i've been to satanism party it's the truth or dare they're like what's your deepest secret all right and you're a satanist then i'm gonna ask you this sure if you're so in with the satanist you know everything about it i do proudly was my grandfather let me ask you the pecking order sure who's higher on the org chart uh huh luciferians or satanists luciferians or satanists yeah uh right now satanists are a little bit ahead but it's kind of a it's kind of a horse race scenario you know one every 10 years

you know the the luciferians are higher every 10 years the satanists are higher it's a competition well the satanists work for the luciferians if you want oh shit and again no one else explains this cosmology the way i do people say well i read this book it said something different look i know okay i know i reverse engineered it i've studied it my whole life's been basically brushing up against it over and over again like a steven king novel okay it's like the red king and the gun slinger all right and you need to understand folks this stuff's real this stuff's going on and you need to understand that we're in deep crap and the people in our government aren't perfect but they realize hillary gets in she wants death and destruction she basically linda blairs

folks she rolls around the carpet spitting and snapping some of that's even come out in the news she just flips out she goes into trance's she goes into trance she goes into trance she linda blairs everyone when does she have time to do all of this she seems very busy she's so busy yeah to have like uh freakouts so many public appearances people are following her all day every day and she still has time to secretly do this yeah everybody needs some self-care time that's true and for some people it's a bath for some people it's linda blair it's linda blaring yeah i like turning that into a verb too i enjoy that i would say that the reason it appears that this is these demons and what have you have been brushing up against alex for his whole life is because he's

had his brain for his whole life well that could be and he experiences a lot of things as satanic nonsense yeah if one out of a hundred people uh or i would go even further if one out of a hundred million people experiences demons on a daily basis maybe it's not the hundred million people who were wrong maybe it's you but this also raises the question of like why wasn't his show always more like this that's fair why why is there so much more demon talk now why is that floodgate opened like was he just holding that back right for years because he knew sure people would look at him like he's sure sure sure he's a uh zealot now it's now it's something that he can piggy back on or was it something that he's been hiding the whole time right right yeah i have no idea

no his character seems to be one that would support either because he does seem like an extremist sure and his family does seem a little bit unstable in terms of their beliefs yeah and the influences that alex says were around in his younger days so i could see there being like a complete uh religious zealotry that he was hiding yeah because he knew it wouldn't be profitable right but then at the same time he's also a complete liar in a fraud so it makes sense that he could have added that to his character sure uh at some point yeah it's it's uh it's very it's very difficult to tell uh what's sincere and what's not yeah and he's not kicked off of social media yet nope like he's still because you know when he's kicked off social media you go to demons

why not you're nobody's paying attention but he's still on social and he's already a demon so that kind of gets rid of that theory of like well once he got kicked off social media all the stuff that he has been hiding he can throw i think i think it's probably related to wiki leaks yeah and the pizza gate nonsense i i think that drove a lot of people insane i i i have a i have a theory that whether it's um organic or uh you know like the organic version would be that he'd been holding this back and this normalizes that kind of conversation sure sure sure he jumps into the water and's like ah freeze right or if he's like okay this is a great way to go here's how we sensationalize things this is the new editorial line yeah i i think that the the the the normalization

that came from uh the the way the internet went nuts yeah i think that's probably what allowed him to do the demons yeah it could be so hard could be um so uh this next clip's unfortunate for alex oh no drip drip drip it gets worse by the day we're now four days out three and change technically and the hammer drip now is getting stronger and stronger drums drums boom boom boom boom like thunder cracks now what are they gonna do a false flag a new sandy hook launch a new war what are they gonna do to stop dark heart so i would say i sang what are you gonna do a new sandy hook implies that they did the old sandy hook yeah uh all right alex yeah this is november fourth 2016 that's that's a way past when you were supposed to have uh learned the truth well

apologized for all the uh the pain you caused people i think he was only just uh i think i don't think he was being very sincere and i'm apology dan i think that was a lie yeah so when i was listening to this it's it's almost all wall-to-wall carpeting of hillary glenn is a goddamn sure sure i mean that's what you would expect it's a few days out you got a hammer over and not surprised yeah yeah but what i was surprised about is how thin the argument is one of the big things is just uh podesta's email uh to uh uh uh uh brahmavit sure being used as like oh everyone's into the devil and blood and lots of blood lots of blood yeah and then this is the other one bill clinton says i practice voodoo i think voodoo's wonderful he wrote a book

bill clinton's book where he talks about it and how great it is i had another copy of the book here they actually said the name of the book and then i had it printed up oh yes my life the early years so here's the passage from bill clinton's book my life in full i was particularly intrigued by the voodoo religion and culture to which i had some limited exposure in new orleans and that existed alongside catholicism and Haiti the name of the traditional Haitian religion comes from the fawn language of benin in west africa where voodoo originated it means god or spirit without the connotations of black magic and witchcraft attached to it in so many movies voodoo's central ritual is a dance during which spirits possess believers

on the most interesting day of the trip i got a chance to observe voodoo in practice david city bank contact in porto prince offered to take him hillary and me to a nearby village to meet an unusual voodoo priest max bouvoir had spent 15 years outside haiti studying at the sorbonne in paris and working in new york he had a beautiful blonde french wife and two bright young daughters he'd been practicing chemical uh engineering until his voodoo priest grandfather on his deathbed chose max to succeed him max was a believer and he did though it must have been a proved a challenge for his french wife and westernized kids we arrived in the late afternoon an hour or so before the dance ceremony which max opened to paying tourists as a way of covering

some of the costs of his operation he explained that in voodoo god is manifest to humans through spirits that represent forces of light and darkness good and evil which are more or less in balance after hillary david and i finished our brief course in voodoo theology we were escorted back to an open area and seated with other guests who had come to witness the ceremony in which spirits are called forth and enter into the bodies of dancing believers after several minutes of rhythmic dancing to pounding drums the spirits arrived seizing a woman in a man the man proceeded to rub a burning torch all over his body and walk on hot coals without being burned the woman in a frenzy screamed repeatedly then grabbed a live chicken and bit its head off then the spirits

left and those that had been possessed fell to the ground i described my brief foray into the world of voodoo because i've always been fascinated by the way different cultures tried to make sense of life nature and the virtually universal belief that there is a non-physical spirit force at work in the world that existed before humanity and will be here when we're all long gone Haitian's understanding of how god is manifest in our lives is very different from that of most christians jews or muslims but their documented experiences certainly prove the old adage that the lord works in mysterious ways so alex has taken this passage of a interesting uh foreign experience yeah and turned it into bill admits in his book that he loves voodoo he does it all the

time him and hillary have spirits coming to possess him it's like this is this is bad this is so flimsy it doesn't surprise me that a benign uh uh admiration for another culture would be misinterpreted as joining the literal christian devil to destroy your life but what does surprise me is that nobody has written a road trip movie about a guy who is a chemical engineer who all the sudden his grandfather's like guess what you're the priest now record record yeah exactly right there it starts with him rubbing fire on himself and you go i guess you're wondering how i got here and then we started all it's easy it wrote itself right now trailer to get to work yeah exactly let's finish your book and i get to work on this movie uh yeah i i just found this to be like wow

you're making an hour out of this yeah this is this is pretty soft yeah it's not good i don't know man i just think that i mean look if you're in Haiti and someone is like hey do you want to come yeah see this voodoo thing that tourists can pay and show to exactly i don't know why you would ever say no it'd be a very interesting experience totally totally i don't know that's all i see in that clinton's Tokyo and they give you the opportunity to see a shinto ritual you fucking go yeah why go other places if you don't experience things that are part of those places hmm that's why alex doesn't really go other places wow he goes to the hike and bike trail that's we're gonna hear about that a little bit later of course we are yeah so alex alex has some inside information

about how uh all these uh these these these globalists they're all satanists and they all kill children sure and this note here just as a little warning uh this show is disgusting let's just say it didn't like in your hollywood movie where they just cut their little heart out we have a lot of uh children probably listening i don't know if i should tell you in alex your crowded black magic how they kill a about a three or four year old generalist they can really scream for mommy and be fully conscious of what happens would you like me to tell you the kind of liberals that want to run your life would you like to know blister discretion advised i'll go ahead and tell you the standard way of

doing it the standard way you know maybe i don't even want to talk about it yeah probably not i agree how about you don't yeah that's a great idea you already just said children are probably yeah as we know this is a family show yeah how about you cool pump the brakes with this uh this nonsense bullshit hey all you nine-year-olds out there you want to hear how allister crowley says to kill three-year-olds all right gather around yeah so uh this this is an interesting clip as we know alex did not go to college true but he does know that in college sometimes if you want to get into one of these secret societies sure they'll have you do things that get you in little by little until you you know by the end you're in right right right like how ran paul uh

uh to join his secret society kidnapped a woman you know and we know that he has refused to debate you absolutely day 200 yeah a million yeah we forgot that lost count yeah um i would say mic down for this because i'd like you to consider the order of things okay that alex has uh this imaginary college students are okay you know it's kind of like in college where oh we have sex with a goat then we just say a little satanic prayer but it's all just to see if you'll do it and then next you're doing something different next it's sex and it's not again attacking quote homosexuals it's that the we'll see we're gonna have we're gonna have gay sex now and then it's you know what we're gonna go kill a homeless person i mean this is this is what goes on okay okay so that is not

the order it goes it shows alex's mind though he somehow thinks that having homosexual sex is an escalation from having sex with a goat hey fuck this goat ah you did it wow wouldn't expect that you don't have sex with me yeah that's very nice that's great all right now let's go kill a homeless person i am really thrown off by you man pick a lane the sex with a goat does not seem like it would be the entry point hey well if you'll fuck a goat you'll fuck me is that what he's trying to say these people in this cult must have such low self-esteem no they're like whoa whoa i'm not ready to you're not ready for me yet you got to fuck a goat first yeah that that just shows a bit of his homophobia and then also the quote homosexuals whatever yeah

whatever that's hoping to convey uh yeah i found that to be interesting i mean partially because alex is just making everything up sure so all it is is just a reflection of like his own yeah his own biases and his own uh blah yeah he's revealing himself by lying about bullshit yeah yeah so before the election alex isn't fully on board with the g.o.p because the g.o.p has not come on board with trump right and the growing tide towards white christian heterosexual uh uh hegemony and uh authoritarianism and so he thinks that the republicans are kind of evil too sure the democrats tend to get into crowley and voodoo the republicans are into germanic versions of this it's like a germanic mix with with the very same old mr

you know eastern mysticism mystery religion babalon stuff just say uh but it it's it's different different churches of the same religion different flavors of the same same garbage and now that i know so much about this 30 years later 30 years later now i know that they tried to recruit me basically into three different branches of this because there's other branches to i mean folks it runs separate but equal it's the real big religion of america yeah so satanism is the real uh religion of america the democrats are into alistair crowley nonsense and the republicans are nazis yeah they're into germanic mysticism yeah yeah yeah the the spear of destiny is that what he's going for that kind of stuff yeah um yeah i would say this is stupid uh why everything

and it really becomes that much more stupid when you hear him try to talk in specifics yeah like listen to this why why use numbers and by the way the democrats are far worse than republicans they are basically 90 taken over at the highest levels by people doing the worst stuff you can imagine republicans it's about 30 it got up to about 50 a few years ago but this culling politically has really brought the pedophile devil worshiper number down uh to a 25 30 right now democrat is that good 90 is that good is that bad do we want more do we want less we're working on our devil worship numbers what is this we've initiated so what are we doing some rules and regulations in place to an hour down to 12 we're down to one in four is there like a board meeting somewhere

where they're like our satanism numbers are down what are we what are we doing they're like oh we'll try soda like what do we what are we doing i would like to know how alex gathered these numbers i'd like to know everything i want to know i want to know about your methodology i want to know your definitions of terms how does one become uh part of this 25 30 percent see now i'm just now i'm back in mad men and don draper is giving a amazing beautiful speech about how we should all become satanist pedophiles like that's what i'm seeing no what this is is alex's way to support all right wing uh yeah conservative republic and bullshit but at the same time pretend that he's like no i'm above it i'm above the fray i'm willing to criticize what i would consider my team i'm

willing to make up numbers right here's my trick yeah i'm gonna call you're a guy a strong man and then i'm gonna call my guy a strong man and then i will never be anywhere except for white nationalism yep uh so we get an interesting pop in uh from someone who i haven't uh heard for a long time okay he's not on the show anymore all right basically there's lots of uh different celebrities that are you know talk about the illuminati like jay z and um some of the other celebrities that sort of hint at it with the imagery inside of their videos etc and the question is is this always just some sort of playful take on on spiritualism and and just kind of a you don't think so kind of thing that's a little bit scary and spooky like halloween or is it real he thinks

it's real i imagine he would think it's real now do you know who that was this is a game i like to play with my friends back in high school with a wu-tang plan okay see if they could figure out which rapper was rapping because they didn't know sure it was fun but ha ha no that's you god uh is that our kraken what are we dealing with the kraken here tan uh tampadandi yeah no no i don't know who it is it's buckly it's buckly cousin buckly what i have not seen i've not heard buckly in a long time doesn't buckly what's buckly doing around i know i was talking about uh the illuminati celebrities are real serious that does make sense that buckly is is like jay z talked about the illuminati he thought he was joking it's the devil yeah also check out these sick beats jay z i would

like you to wrap over one of these tracks buckly get out of here buckly come on um yeah alex rushes him out pretty fast uh that he's on for a couple minutes and then alex calls him with his top researcher sure all right all right okay then it got really strange because it my cup should have runneth over mm-hmm because then what should happen but alex has fucking john rapaport come ahead oh the batman yeah batman's in studio all right which is to me very anomalous he's in studio yeah he never he's never almost only does the fourth hour yeah i i very rarely unless alex needs a very serious pep talk yeah he never has rapaport uh it's a terrible interview it's pointless it's stupid i couldn't even find anything that rose to the level of interest wow it's just kind of

like yeah they're demon cults all right great thanks rapaport all right um and then there's a pointless interview with william binney oh that doesn't surprise me the former technical head of the nsa sure nothing interesting bananas it's just uh saying that wikileaks got stuff from right the good guys in the government as opposed to hackers that's it i i don't suppose that it surprises me much though since we are so close to the election i imagine nobody's coming up with too many big big swings other than like we got to do everything we can to stop hillary from being president you know like nobody's coming up with their really good stuff there is a seeming um like it's focused maybe that's more what i'm getting the gist of yeah i think i think saying

it's focused is fair but it's focused in a strange way that's not very interesting and it doesn't feel ambitious yeah that's fair listening to this it felt a lot like people treading water yeah and that seemed weird to me considering nowadays how alex is screaming yeah bloody murder and like spitting out of his mouth while he yells the behavior is very very very different interesting yeah um and you know maybe part of it is because alex is freaked out by the idea of people drinking blood well that'll happen he's not gonna drink blood with john podesta i i say he's drunk for 80 trillion dollars 80 trillion dollars i mean you could not pay me 80 trillion dollars to be around these people to be with them to drink blood with and it's not that i couldn't drink blood

what hell i've done the old hunter ritual you know when you're eight and shoot your first deer and drink it's blood hot that's an ancient ritual that's just about being a hunter plus one okay so you've drank blood in a ritual i'm pretty sure he's drank blood in a ritual damn almost almost an ancient pagan hunting ritual hey look i'm gonna spend my entire show talking about how art that i don't understand proves that my enemy is good demon blood rituals now granted i have engaged in a blood ritual when i was eight so fucking arbitrary what's a good ritual and a bad ritual yeah just arbitrary bullshit yeah so this next clip is is uh fascinating because this is a classic moment from the alex jones show that i did not realize was from this november fourth

episode but this this is a a clip that will live in infamy after this point resistance to tyrants his obedience to the message to hillary it's alex jones you can't run on when i think about all the children hillary clinton has personally murdered and chopped up for a long and great i have zero fear standing up against her yeah you heard me right hillary clinton has personally murdered children go tell that long tongue liar going to just can't roll back to truth anymore tell the right hillary clinton is one of the most vicious serial killers the planet's every thing cut him down tell him that god's gonna now there's a twist to that am i talking about the devil worship story with her chief of staff her campaign chairman looking at the menu of blood

and semen and body parts at the alex your crowley event the private event oh no i'm not talking about that i mean 200 000 plus dead christians with her operation with syria and her operation in libya and not let the christians get out and directing al-qaeda and isis who target and murder children and put them through sex slavery and throw catholic priest off cliffs and kill people in mass and murder gays and everything else you can imagine because they don't like peaceful people so that is a classic clip from alex that he will later use a ton because people in the news and i believe even maybe the megan kelly interview took the clip of him saying that hillary clinton personally has killed yeah all of these children and he said it took me out of context yeah well to be fair

you spoke poorly your context is clear within the confines of a sentence well it's two different thoughts that sure work sure because i mean if you want to critique hillary's foreign policy and things decisions that were made while she was at the state department totally and how that had ramifications that are not good and do deserve uh critique of course uh fine yes now i understand that alex thinks that he's just sensationalizing it by saying or or trying to get attention by saying she's personally killed all these people sure sure sure but that that's an incorrect state right right you're you're oversensationalizing it in a way that is only meant kind of to bait people into yeah pointing out that your asshole yeah he got what he wanted out of that yeah you could

you could that was a great clip for him you could say that hillary's responsible for a bunch of deaths or something like that you could you could get around uh the rhetorical move he's trying to make sure he just did it really poorly because did he yes i feel like he did exactly what he wanted to do yes but if you are somebody who actually understands how language works right he did he did this move poorly oh oh yeah if what he was trying to say if okay if we are measuring the ability he had when saying what it was he ostensibly tried to say yeah he did a bad job yes if we look at somebody who realizes that nobody's going to come after him for it and gets to say whatever he wants yeah and hopefully will go viral with it but he did exactly the best job that the goal is attention and

yeah trolling people yeah he succeeded in that i didn't realize that was on this episode when i heard that i was like yeah i'll be down yeah i've heard this a bunch of times so alex is another Gaston and it's uh doug hagman uh one of your favorites uh doug hagman love the hag dougman he he's a guy who alex turns out didn't like for a while doug hagman i've been hearing him for 15 years on coast to coast a.m first five i thought that guy is too radical a lot of what he says i know is accurate a lot of it just is too much he said they were going to bring in massive muslims at some point set up a caliphate first guy i heard saying he said they were going to use it for strategy attention and he said a lot of things and then about 10 years ago i started going man

that all came true and then more of it came what when when when i learned from some of my sources are we caliphate secret service did that already happen nypd now one of those is is banjino but he doesn't give us any secret stuff oh you just outed banjino take that banjino take that yeah shit bag uh you guys are really fast and loose with your sources did not realize we were already a caliphate yeah yeah it turns out and hagman was way ahead of the curve way ahead of the curve on that yep um so uh this this has to do with uh the weiner's laptop yeah uh they're talking about how the new york uh fbi forced uh comey to come out and reopen the investigation into clinton's emails because if they didn't uh if he didn't do that then they were going to have a press conference

where they're going to reveal everything that was on weiner's laptop sure so uh comey did that and then uh later when comey comes out and says you know everything yeah it's closed the investigation is closed uh alex doesn't really have a great answer for that um but dug hagman he had a source that had said that they were going to do this sure that they were going to have a press conference yeah yeah yeah and so that's why he's on to sort of gloat about uh being right right right and uh this doesn't go great okay um but before uh hagman gets in to the show proper alex has to do what he does best and that is fake crying let me tell you something when you're with secret service agents and they're senior and then then those are smart pretty tough smart guys you know and then they've

got the archetype and everything of the suit and they're you know their eyes right on you and you can tell her and they're like she's really dangerous we're all really scared and we can't tell everything but just you're right about all god save america they start getting to tear their eye you're like well what is it they go it's bad they hurt children folks i thought he was doing an impression of a crying secret service person i didn't know no that's that's bad yeah i don't buy that for a second no i genuinely yeah i thought it was fake nope yeah it's it's not i thought it was purposefully fake it's not purposefully fake because he starts talking uh more and it has the lingering of the the crying oh that's not good yeah so uh in present day i know we've heard alex talk

a lot pretty regularly about the possibility that we all deserve for the earth to be destroyed totally because we're bad oh on a bad day he he's on the globalist team yeah it turns out he might this might be year four of him okay maybe we deserve a nuclear war that they're trying to give us maybe that's what we let devil worshipers in maybe we're meant to everybody to die you know what at least at least they won't be able to torture little kids to death anymore at least they'll all just get killed by hydrogen bombs instead of hillary leaning over them man a damn dark room you imagine that how about that witch march in there with your toddler they fished out of your backyard how's that sound not good i i do think that it's interesting that uh you know alex is a silver

linings guy he is a silver linings guy maybe no one will you know they won't he's got a point if everyone dies there will be no more murder sure great so doug hagman comes in and uh he wants to talk about the codes in the emails i would like to talk about oh i want to hear about the codes there is a subtext or coding to some of the emails that podesta and others have uh and including hillary and whom i have been engaged in for example um pizza party i'll just leave this out there pizza party that's not exactly what it means you know don't bring a you know don't bring your favorite video over for uh pizza night uh pizza party is something who's bringing videos has sexual connotations and that's why they say stuff like they'll be semen they'll be they'll be uh you

know this and that they'll be blood lots of blood blood even means something no exactly it does i mean you could go to uh yes use lots of blood yeah well i don't yes why would you use blood as the code why would blood be a code word that's a terrible idea yeah all right all right now ultimately the plan is to drink blood right so what we're gonna do is use blood as code for the blood what's your safe word they'll safe they'll never catch on to the fact that we want blood oh boy yeah okay yeah who's bringing videos over for a pizza party i mean is that a thing i mean if you're uh i don't know maybe you got a screener i understand it's 2016 but we're not back in vhs times i think that the idea of some of these uh parties are like dinner parties right with like a couple couples

sure so maybe you're coming over and someone has an actual like uh hot pizza oven right like a brick oven okay yeah so you get together and you make a pizza and then maybe while the pizza is cooking or something you uh have a video yeah you watch con air on sure or maybe like i said maybe a screener maybe you have an advanced copy of something because you're rich this is a big hollywood party right that's what we're doing we're just rich you're powerful you guys be rich that advanced things so bring over some movie that the uh the dumb commoners can't watch oh that's fair they've got iron man seven is dug hagman on that bringing videos over iron man seven trip i don't know okay so anyway uh hagman's got a source uh for his information okay mic down for

this because this is fucking hilarious clearly i just want to make it clear that this this source is within the uh orbit of the f or the nypd fbi investigation on the ground in new york new york city and westchester county as well um well specifically new york city that boy i shouldn't have said that uh but there's an investigation going on that's what are you doing what is what is happening whoa i shouldn't have said that whoops whoops a doodle i'm a professional oh man i i tell you what would you accidentally possibly reveal too much information about your source on a national syndicated radio show probably best not to highlight it by saying should have said that yeah yep yep rudy juliani shouldn't have said that whoops a doodle

my bad fuck he's well he's laundering bullshit towards me and now here we are oh what an asshole yeah um i don't know anyway um this next clip i think is something that needs a citation uh from uh hagman here we go and by the way there will be at least six if not eight or more verified trips uh by hillary and by huma on the lolita express of course you talked about that like prince is saying that too and i mean folks you know it's like the the the crossroads when eric prince appears out of nowhere with this information you're supposed to hate him all right okay first off i understand but there's only one prince all right you don't get to refer to eric prince by his last name there's one prince if you say prince you know who we're talking about

the mercenary formerly known as eric do not tell me about eric prince uh yeah also i'm waiting on information about these uh trips that huma and uh hillary took on the lolita express why did they take those trips go ahead and uh provide that uh documentation whenever you're ready where were they where were they going well who cares anyway roger stone is on of course he is this is a star studded show yeah here on november 4th i'm seeing that wrap up this all one show i thought we were on two days no they are but we haven't gotten to the sixth yet man you had wrap up or you had buckley you had uh uh william binney you had dug hagman now you got roger he was supposed to have steve but his phone didn't work oh call old man house phone i got very excited because uh we i got teased

with the steve pochennec appearance and uh did not materialize but you got roger all right this is a very boring interview quite frankly god damn it roger but there is one thing that roger says uh that i found very interesting am i wrong i mean he's ahead in all the battleground states even polls that oversample and it looks like landslide for trump uh is as ronald reagan would say i am cautiously optimistic bigger win than reagan had or or or or or they steal it even if you i mean maybe give her all 50 states hell i am cautiously optimistic and trump's in good spirits in excellent spirits never hurt him happier all right roger stone we'll talk to you soon thank you my friend many times that tone is very that's fucked up different we're stealing this election

i am very cautiously optimistic about the theft that is about to take place uh it's it's really it's really weird i don't i don't know if i i heard it the same way you're hearing it i heard it as we have no expectation that we're gonna win this i heard it as the voting machines in georgia are definitely gonna work this time i i i get i get where you're coming from on that i think it's the other way around i think it's we get to talk about the voting machines not working after we lose sure sure sure sure sure that that's how it feels more to me it doesn't feel like any of them are really have an expectation the trump is gonna win it really feels like they're all getting ready for hillary yeah they are all but yeah so is everybody right we were

all ready for it now i i don't hear much talk about trump at all on this november fourth episode it's almost all about how podesta and hillary are evil their demons yeah if they get in it's over and i grant that's still you know i guess electioneering for trump given that hillary is her can uh her his opponent right but like still there's not like nearly the uh quantity of uh trump is our savior you know he's standing up uh like blah blah blah there's little flickers of it but not nearly as much as you might expect days before the 2016 election it's mostly about how bad hillary is yeah and to me it feels like we're getting ready for next season right because it doesn't feel like the end of the world if trump loses yeah there's talk of like the end of the world could lose

yeah there's talk of like you know it's not like well if trump loses it's time to gun everyone yeah yeah like granted there's still talk of like satanism but it's almost in a way that's like productive for alex to yell about later it really i have had a very strong reluctance to agree with people who think like alex wanted hillary to win yeah yeah but if i go back and i listen to this episode in particular and i don't know we'll see what happens on the the uh the later episodes but it does not feel like he's fully needing trump to win the way he does now it is funny that our situation is so warped that alex being like hillary clinton is a pedophile murderer who's the devil and we're like he's kind of ambivalent about this this election my notice

he seems weirdly chill yeah it's not weird how that's where we're at he's he's only calling her a pedophile demon yeah that's that's borderline nothing yeah it's it's the the phenomenon that i had is like the background is support for trump as opposed to foreground yeah yeah like this is this is about building up a villain for your next pay per view or whatever like it's not i don't know it it was definitely not what i expected i wonder if there's going to be i wouldn't be surprised if there was some like serious historical work that was like hillary clinton is literally the only politician that could have ever lost an election to donald trump you know like that's a really fascinating i think you could probably come up with a couple others

yeah i imagine um yeah i i timothy mcvay sure he would probably well he would probably defeat trump i think you could probably come up with thousands of people that could uh lose no sir i understand i agree that i think of leading let's say possible democrat candidates she would be probably of uh few that that would who could be realistic candidates yeah yeah that would have lost and i mean it a lot of that is not necessarily her fault so no no no uh a lot of it is just based on you know shit larry nickles did yeah i think that's that's the thing that they uh that it's like it's it's not that they just got the propaganda train rolling on her in 2015 or whatever that's been going on for 30 years by that point yeah longer if you lived in arkansas yeah and you

kind of i think if you're a political strategist do you think like well yes there is that right uh but i mean that's been going on forever people are over it most people know it's nonsense a lot of this is debunked entirely totally um and unfortunately it appears that might be a miscalculation democrats never fail to overestimate the american electorate but i might have i might have agreed that yeah these sorts of propaganda campaigns that have existed over decades sure that they wouldn't be as potent sure or as as uh meaningful but no it's very easy to look back and say now look at those idiots making that choice but at the time we were all like yeah there's no way bernie's gonna beat her the she's the it's just gonna happen and i would have coronation and i

would have said like nobody's gonna care about like vince foster shit no shit turns out down you fool so uh steve was supposed to be on uh but he's not and so alex has to fill some time and he decides to do that by making fun of a goth he saw okay about two months ago i was on the hike and bike trail or for security reasons now i always bring somebody with me and we're always locked and loaded as well quite frankly i might end inside baseball but goes on around here but it's it's gotten to be a little bit serious in the ballgame at this point and i'm like a hundred yards away and i saw these really super white-looking people in black it looks really creative i went man i got a bad these people i could feel them and as i got up close to them they all had like

pentagram necklaces they were super white and weak there was the old woman and the younger woman and the man there was and the other passed me they were going up the hill i was going down the hill and i was like i sensed them a hundred fifty yards away like i was like like the more you get into this stuff fighting and you're like and i they were so weak they think they're powerful they're totally turned over to evil and they're like pathetic they're the most pathetic people they might just be some metal fans he's just a did he just discover goths is that what just happened alex's life is so boring that two months ago he saw some goths on the hikin bike trail just stayed with him yeah and now he's telling it as some kind of a story where he could sense them

jesus i can feel i can feel pale people in the in the wind oh what's this jesus christ yeah i would have preferred if he did paul f tompkins joke from his first album where he's like i uh saw a goth running and i leaned out the window of the car and went hey where's the funeral like that's that's all i won that's as bad as it could be well that's direct bullying this is just alex bullying somebody on a fucking show months later sure at least those goths will never know that paul left tompkins immortalized them no no the other one yeah yeah that's true so uh the last clip here from november fourth and uh it's alex explaining why god allows us humans to exist it's an interesting theological point that he makes all right that i disagree with okay and so

that's why god allows us to exist murder hornet so that we can really get a bird's eye view on where evil leads because you gotta actually experience it you can't for eternity that's not what a bird's eye view means as new souls new creatures new free entities gods created just sit here and be told about evil you have to experience it at point blank range you have to live it you have to see it you have to breathe it you have to be tortured by it so that you will always have a spiritual memory of just how nasty this is so that you've chosen which side you want to be on not with her never with this never never never with these people forever all that matters is we're not with her that's why she says with her with her with the harlot with the death with the pain with the

failure with the ugliness with satan with her with her with her no not with you never alex is mad about hillary's slogan yeah yeah um i don't know i would say that if we are our ancestors then we should have all of their spiritual memories too and i guess if evil has ever been experienced in human history then we would all have our ancestors spiritual memories of that evil viscerally so we wouldn't need to re-experience it over and over again sure i don't know i think this is all stupid and i disagree with it you know dan a lot of people say uh i i know that i shouldn't jump off the the bridge but i'm telling you right now you can't know that it's a bad idea unless you jump unless you breathe jumping off that bridge unless you eat jumping off that bridge unless the lord

himself tells you that jumping off that bridge is a bad thing and that's why you got to jump off the bridge you can't know that evil is bad uh unless you jump off that bridge dan okay i make sense i i just i don't know this is this is thin that's very stupid so we get to the sixth like i said the fifth is not worthwhile i got really excited because alex said that he was doing a saturday show right and it's just talking about how bill clinton said that he likes voodoo okay and then oh and shroyer young oh and shroyer and uh pre-firing rambo joe biggs get together and just complain about stuff and it's not worth really weaver doing she's in i don't know i don't she's there maybe alex said that he started working with her years ago well we did rainbow

snatch in our first year so she was there by 2017 at least yeah i don't know i don't know if she was a big figure i know that like leon macadoo is still there sure um yeah i don't know there's uh we'll see i mean because you know on monday uh next monday our episode will be about that marathon if millie's there you better believe she's gonna be somewhere in there oh yeah all hands on deck yeah yeah yeah 52 hours yeah you're gonna be there we're gonna see rainbow snatch for four of those yeah so we get uh move past saturday it's nothing and uh sunday comes along and here is alex i really really basking in how much traffic he's getting a lot of people are liking his shit one video 837 000 views on youtube 200 000 on our internal streams 400 plus thousand people

how many millions is that two and a half million or so we have two and a half million viewers last night separate from even my terrestrial radio show if you go to hillary's facebook mentions because only quote celebrities get him it's not the facebook live thing it's facebook mentions so we're celebrities so we get one when you go to hers right now guess how many watched today live with lebron james through now because it counts live and then afterwards then watch the archive 5500 as of 12 minutes ago before i went live i don't care i don't i don't i it's i've got more viewers than halorate that that's petty yes that's very very petty yes it is unprofessional perhaps so roger's back on sunday and he's on because he is gloating about winning

a court case okay well alex i'm delighted to be with you it's nice to get off the telephone because i've been in an endless round of conference calls with lawyers and i don't particularly like lawyers anyway but the breaking news is that the ruling against donald trump roger stone republican national committee the trump campaign uh in stop the steal dot org was overturned by the appeals court in ohio late this afternoon there is no evidence of any plan on our part to threaten or intimidate voters in any way this is a great example of how crazy the last four years have been i'd completely forgotten that right before the election roger stone was involved in a lawsuit where he was accused of engaging in voter intimidation due to his work with the super pack

called stop the steal completely forgot that as well on its own this story is massive but taken as a part of the chaos that was going on it just faded into the background roger was running stop the steal as a nonprofit that was set up to conduct exit polls in cities which had according to the huffington post quote high minority populations can you exit poll with extreme prejudice the group was really nothing more than a website where people could register as volunteer poll watchers who would go to the polls presumably talk to voters and then enter the information they gathered onto this website the argument was that any election that was more than two percent off from exit polling should be considered suspicious so what this group was intending to do is create

completely nonsensical nonscientific exit poll data to yell about after hillary one that's what the scam was here yeah the goal was to create a narrative on the back of meaningless information that you have created yourself roger even said that the plan was to gather information to use as a challenge to the election in the case that his data didn't match what was coming in sure but that's nonsense even if his data wasn't completely unverifiable and wasn't biased as hell and complete trash he couldn't use it as a basis to challenge the election the only real outcome of this is to create something to rile up your followers after you lose this is a loser's strategy not a path towards winning the huffington post article on this is hilarious and the part

about stop the steals website is a personal favorite of mine quote any registered volunteer could sit at home and start entering false information today huff post entered five votes wednesday for green party nominee jill stein a vote each for democratic nominee hillary clinton and libertarian nominee gary johnson and two votes for g.o.p. nominee trump in looking into it they just entered false data just tossing bullshit wow wow yeah wow roger was almost certainly using the super pack as a way to move money around as mother jones reported in 2018 that stopped the steal strangely paid approximately five thousand dollars in consulting fees to the mother of stone associate christin davis the manhattan madam the mother has no experience in

politics or elections so this seems weird according to mother jones quote in a text message stone said he was too busy to answer stupid questions like this he did not respond for the questions that sounds right all this is super weird because after he got sued over this group he claimed quote i did not establish stop the steal i do not control its bank account or in any way manage its affairs hard to square that with payments to his friend's mom who has no business consulting for the pack and also payments to other roger's associates it was people doing impressions of him online doing all impressions of him it was either you didn't even see him just before the election stopped the steal stenta sent out new directions to their volunteers that made it clear that they

cannot do things that violate voting rights law well for instance you can't enter a polling place except a vote you can't speak to anyone within a hundred feet of the entrance to a polling place you can't record anyone you can't talk to anyone about anything before they vote these rules all basically fly in the face of the blustery talk that was coming out of the group before this and it kind of feels like a cover your ass kind of thing yeah they'd riled up everybody about the need to protect the polls so it doesn't matter if you send out an email that's all like control yourself the day before the election right the desired effect has uh have been done and you can you know then you can say that you're trying to get everyone to follow voting laws but how can

you possibly be held responsible for the actions of these volunteers you sent out an email telling them to follow the rules we've spent two months describing all of the things that they shouldn't do in repeated angry tones of voice so if they misunderstood that to mean those are the things that they should do yeah i've got nothing to do with that yeah i sent out an email it appears to me that this is like exactly what it appears to be it looks like an entity that was used to direct money to associates well also hopefully suppressing some of the vote and possibly creating chaos at polling places the ultimate payoff however is just the creation of a meaningless data that you can pretend is credible that proves that even though hillary won the election your guy secretly won

it's a long con type of thing where you're protecting your grift for the next stage this is not the action of somebody who's intending to win yeah because even if roger was like using this as a strategy to help trump you couldn't like even if he got the best data possible sure all you'd get his blog posts out of this yeah this would not work in court this would not course this would not sway anyone's opinion in a legal framework about the validity of the election yeah this exit polling data is useless except as a means of making war propaganda yeah of a narrative yeah propaganda is only useful if trump loses right you wouldn't go through all this trouble unless you're looking for a way to after the fact dismiss the claims that you're a loser sure i i mean i would also

probably argue that you know if you're setting up a super PAC to move money around in hidden ways that's just sort of a side suspicion i'm not entirely sure okay like all right a hundred percent what was going on see i kind of think of it in the in the almost reverse there where it's like maybe setting up a thing to move money around and he's like well we have to have a reason for the thing to exist so this is fine you know maybe the madam her mother was like stuffing envelopes sure and they called a consultation sure maybe it's not sketchy sure i don't know sure anyway imagine stone is just really taken care of you know he threw her that little bone she's on a fixed income you know has nothing to do with that manhattan madam stuff well i mean christin

davis and him are friends i know they're a long time associates i understand um but like the the thing that i i just can't get around is like thinking of how this would be something you would do if you are looking for productive ways to help trump win or try to protect the win after sure potentially contested right election this this would do nothing this is right this is pointless except as a pr kind of strategy totally and to me that is an indication of something kind of strange and also uh he's not doing that this time no rogers not doing that this time no they have regular illegal poll watchers now but if roger thought that there was some kind of like a real need for this thing that he did last time sure like if there is a real concern about about the polls

you'd think that he would be trying some of the same things and he's not because i think he wants trump to win this time whereas i'm not positive these people actually even want trump to win i'm starting to come around to the conclusion that these people are expecting a loss yeah and they're bracing for a loss yeah in a way for their business to move forward after that sure that's kind of the way yeah all of this feels yeah yeah and one of the reasons that i believe that or i'm starting to feel that way is because alex is declaring victory no matter what happens in the 2016 election sure which he's doing now yes but in 2020 he's saying that either trump is going to win or biden's going to win and it's going to be stolen and trump actually wants sure

sure sure the way alex is declaring victory no matter what is different in 2016 whether he wins or loses this election no matter what comes out of it is a total winner he had courage you've had courage you've taken action globalism is on the table as a crony capitalist anti-free market mafia system uh the fact that the federal reserve is screwing us over it's huge the fact that our borders are being resolved political correctness is in tatters this is a guy who's making the argument that even if hillary ends up winning which of course there'll be shenanigans that you cheated by whatever right even if she wins we win because a moralism has been put on the table we're discussing these things now trump has been such a dick and so rude the

political correctness is gone yeah like this is someone who's like trying to look for the silver lining of uh trump losing yeah it feels like that very strongly as i go back and i look at this yeah and maybe it's the juxtaposition of how out of control and desperate he seems for trump to win now sure um i don't know it's it's it's very different than i expected i expect it to hear a lot more like really desperate uh screaming sure a lot of like uh pleading almost yeah and i hear barely covered resignation and a desperate attempt to turn hillary clinton into the greatest villain which is pointless if hillary loses right yeah all of this stuff i mean we're seeing why we're seeing how pointless it is now seeing is how they're still trying to run against hillary and nobody's

buying that bullshit anymore all all of the behaviors that are going on make total sense if you're gearing up for the next election against hillary again if you're or if you're looking for four more years of fighting against hillary sure sure sure sure it doesn't make a ton of sense if you think that you're gonna have to deal with trump for the long term right trump works really well with the way that they're playing this as a prop that goes away mm-hmm like a ron paul run right or whatever it doesn't it doesn't make sense to me and i know i know that i'm jumping to conclusions a little bit based on not a full data set you know i'm i am just looking at a couple days worth of his show sure but it is the overwhelming sense that i get that like he he doesn't expect

trump to win yeah i mean i imagine that makes sense though because we've at this time we've spent six months being repeatedly hammered with 538 back when everybody thought that uh was a great thing that gave biden like an 85 percent or hillary like a 75 chance of winning yeah so like over and over again every day they're they're forced to like there's only the the betting money says our guy's gonna lose you know and now even though we're dealing with the same type of doesn't care about that no totally but but secret polls i think i think he does secret polls i think they all do back whenever life was reasonable at least alex doesn't understand how polls work no that doesn't understand statistics at all that's sampling sizes that's true but he understands

betting i don't know if he does no that's barns does that's true barns won a lot of money on the election yeah that's fair um so uh roger has a prediction that did not not come to pass i presume that in the period between the election in the inauguration obama will probably pardon everybody who's been involved in this sordid mess oh i didn't happen so uh i imagine that if trump loses between now and uh the inauguration trump will pardon everybody who's committed a crime ever i think we might all get a clean slate um so roger has a little bit of a bone to pick uh here um so the what had happened just before this episode was that uh trump had had a rally someone yelled gun in the audience and secret service came and uh you know surrounded trump yeah i went and i

watched that video trump looks very confused uh he does not seem stoic alex will say that he is strong man ready to fight yeah um now some people might uh have been suggesting at that point that this was staged in order to get sympathy for trump and roger does not care for this let's talk the scare last night briefly uh out in nevada uh i mean now we know it's a democratic party operative that was there to bird dog what is the point of screaming gun gun and then running at trump just to make him look weak or something well what i found particularly aggravating alex and i was on with uh joe begs last night on info wars to talk about this is within seconds of this happening we counted over 400 tweets blaming me roger stone staged this to uh to gain sympathy

for donald trump this is some serious alex and wonderland stuff now in the present day you have gretchen widmer the governor of michigan sure who was you know uh the subject of a kidnapping plot that alex says was done to get sympathy for her which is alex and wonderland right according to roger also the other thing that i find incredibly fascinating about this is that when it's trump the plot is democrats doing it to make him look weak that's the conspiracy correct when it's widmer it's uh i don't know the intelligence agency is doing this to get her sympathy yeah it's very weird democrats democrats are really good at false flags we can turn them into whatever we want i guess that's what we do right damn or if we false flag everybody or it's just

alex makes all this shit up and uh whenever he needs to paint someone as a villain or a hero he does it in slightly different ways well that could be two i suppose i think roger because why would specifically pointing out that there were 400 tweets within seconds makes me feel like he did do it um roger feeling like in 400 in seconds after this happened 400 tweets came out and they were the ones who knew what i did or i run 400 twitter accounts and uh and i was trying to false flag to get some sympathy for myself yeah so apparently trump is pretty fatalistic this gets alex really excited stone's got to leave in a minute but i wanted him to get to this because you know he's told me stuff that i later saw come out or other people told me and the fact was a

couple years ago trump wasn't going to run he knew what would happen to him but he just finally said okay i'll just sign my life over and it doesn't matter and his wife backed him on and he expects probably be killed and stone just let it slip so i brought it up of how committed trump is so this is steve's stuff this is all like uh steve's i recruited uh uh trump to run with this group of of good guys and the intelligent stuff uh which it was one of the reasons why i was excited to hear that steve was going to be on and then when he didn't show up i got kind of sad it's a little disappointing because i wanted to hear uh some more of that stuff i wanted to swing yeah um but yeah so uh roger says that trump is very fatalistic about this and this like alex is like oh let's

get some inside baseball sure sure sure sure and so they start talking about how he's he doesn't even wear a bulletproof vest man no but you said it let's talk about you said fatalistic let's get down to the wire that they can't even make him wear a bulletproof vest he just doesn't even care this is so presidential well you wore one in the summertime it frankly was so damn hot and heavy that he felt it was slowing down his performance on the stump his family has begged him to take more security precautions yeah let's not let out security seekers that's that's an example he just doesn't care folks that is so manly you called him fatalistic go ahead and tell folks since you've mentioned it well in other words i've said to him aren't you worried about your physical safety and he

says look i i have to do this i have to do this for the country you can't run for president and not mix with the people he is the opposite of that coward demon hillary isn't he i love that uh alex is trying to do this like oh he's so manly won't wear a bulletproof vest and roger's like well it was just kind of hot it was hot yeah he's hard to move around he didn't think it was very good he was unflattering to his figure yeah not very not very strong man to just wither under the heat so manly oh so strong yeah alex is trying to push this now this trump is ready to die for the country which is not at all foremost it is not at the front of alex's reporting um and it's it's coming in a tiny bit here but it's weird it's not yeah they're not fully committed to this as

something that is being discussed a lot man you know for somebody who believes that hillary clinton is working for the literal christian devil in 2016 you would think he would be far more insistent that everyone get out and vote and not very kind of like uh he's probably not gonna win no i mean you know like wouldn't you be fucking going ape shit don't get me wrong they are saying you should vote for trump totally totally but the literal christian devil kind of voting you know it's almost entirely vote against hillary yeah yeah until this like this little stretch with roger where alex is excited about the idea that trump doesn't wear a bulletproof vest and he's ready to die or whatever and i think largely that's just motivated by the conversation about what happened

at the rally the night before yeah yeah like it's it's very little positive about trump as much as it is supremely negative about hillary man yeah how did we go from there to trump is god king yeah it's weird all it takes to make the hard right love you so much they want you to be king is for you to piss off the libs that's it that's bad so roger's gone and now alex continues with a little bit more talking about how great trump is okay but again it's not it's not the biggest deal high-level groups have come to trump and they know he's ahead and they've said just work with us and we will let you in he said i serve the american people this happened yesterday sure it did yesterday with the level i'm at it you knew how real this was you would be crapping

your pants they came to trump and they said the deep state the older elements of it bush connected groups and they said just say you'll work with us and just say you'll listen to us some and we will let you in you are the winner and donald trump told him no okay the american people are gonna decide and they said okay buddy okay and that was a warning last night god jumping up with a god i got a gun we're running at the podium what trump did he just stood there and waited no he didn't he looked pretty confused yeah that's that's what i would say if you go watch that video trump just is like oh um i i i don't know i mean like what alex is trying to do here is just like a half cooked version of like he you know this this doesn't

sound like he's even convinced of any of this no he's grasping at straws if you listen to us some what kind of big bad is like a little listen to us sometimes yeah hey hey we're blackmailing you we're gonna install you into office 75 of the time do whatever you want bro just get it out of there is consider we want to be at we want to see it at the table of the office we're literally giving to you i don't always need my way i just need to know you heard me it is it is a very touchy feely kind of uh overwhelming force yeah he is hearing pulling out these like this happened yesterday yeah i'll come though get though if i you would you would shit your pants if you knew how real this was really yeah it to me just seems like alex isn't he's not fully developed this

this ability to uh lionize trump in the way that he's become accustomed to now i and maybe it's a lack of development of the skill maybe it's an ambivalence it just seems very flat this happened yesterday yeah get the fuck out so we have one one more guest here on november 6th uh and the guy who's very concerned about witches is it's oh wow we got a we got a larry nickles larry nickles shows up here on november 6th r.i.p and this is something that uh this this is a story that i've heard larry tell before and uh let's hear it again why not it's a good one it's a good story you know alex all i can tell you is and finally i had to go to hill i literally had to go to her to try to get her to stop i went to her i said to harry if we get caught when you go into this

witches church we're done i mean this is you know this is the early eighties late seventies whatever kind it was and i said there's no way we can cover that but i said here's she said there's no way she's gonna go that's a well then do this i do channel evidence crew tv local tv station and larry i said look no you go to the methods church every sunday i'm gonna set the crew get you coming out of the church now it's just happened just like i'm gonna dig it now you told me 20 years ago you told me 20 years ago yeah you're gonna come out of the church and then you're gonna talk about how happy you were to be in church and how and you're in professed jesus christ and god and all that she turned away from me both she turned away before she took a step she turned

her head back to the left and she said you know i can't do that and turned her head back around and walked away oh i just got chills i just got chills i love that story don't believe it but i love it and larry nickle's just going to hillary and being like we just need you to pretend to be into jesus you know i can't do that no i can't do that why couldn't you oh she just can't if you are like the devil is the king of lies no no even the devil can quote scripture not not not not there not there there are a lot of arcane rules that make sense if in context i don't know i feel like if you are um an instrument of satan who is trying to take over the country to somehow stop alex from doing something um you'd be able to pretend that

you went to a methodist church and had a good time yeah it's wouldn't be hard i cannot do that especially considering she's been to church millions of plenty of times yeah yeah but hey uh i probably wouldn't play that clip again because he's told that story a bunch of times but it leads into alex uh yeah half remembering something okay it was in mainstream news washington post as well that she does these say ounces for the dead and liberals will be there well if you can call it the dead hillary she's just getting them roped in that's the first level they call can we talk to jesus and she says that's the one person we don't talk to she said i can't you know i can't do that but that back you told me that 20 years ago then a decade ago the washington post asked they were

like oh she does say ounces who would she talk to you well not jesus she'd let you talk to anybody but jesus what is that i mean this lady is a veritable devil wait wait wait wait wait wait hold on right hold the fucking phone right so it would be better if they could actually contact jesus via seance wouldn't that throw everything that alex believes in the turmoil it does sort of imply that alex believes these say ounces work and jesus is getting snub you could get jesus it's just rude what she's doing is rude is that what it is i guess that's that's what they're mad about oh you're not going to talk to jesus you're too good for jesus yeah so alex's timeline's a little bit off here he's saying that larry told him about this 20 years ago and then 10 years ago is in the

news sure and that's that's not true um this is from a book written by bob woodward back in 1996 so 20 years ago yeah yeah in the book it's claimed that hillary would have quote imaginary conversations with elinor roosevelt and mahogany as a therapeutic release in 2016 bill clinton gave a speech at the dedication of the franklin delano roosevelt for freedoms park in which he mentioned the exercises that hillary did pretending to speak to elinor as a way of helping her cope with her new responsibilities as first lady this video was taken and used to resurrect the talking point that hillary speaks to the dead and engages in demonic rituals which alex is doing here as for the part about hillary not talking to jesus from a cnn article about woodward's book quote the first lady

declined a personal advisor suggestion that she addressed jesus christ however because it would be quote too personal according to woodward's book the choice this is outrageously thin soup yeah this is just kind of like i mean i don't know i've been in therapy and you talk to like your younger self or like a dead relative you do like a cathartic sure thing where you talk about some memory i don't know that you need to get out yeah you don't have the ability to it's something that people do i i i find it completely plausible that like hillary would have a conversation imagined with elinor roosevelt sure someone who she admires and now is in the same role as right makes total sense this is all bullshit i think what boggles my mind it never boggles my mind uh because it's

always obvious but reagan literally made poly policy decisions based on an astrologer like like the reagan's had a personal astrologer who they would ask policy questions to and then make decisions based on that yes but like we've like witches oh well you're probably right yeah did they astrologize jesus did they did they snub jesus with the astrology hillary went to a church with linda bloodworth thomas from uh the uh designing women witches witches witches so we have one last clip here and i keep this uh as a nice way to push back against the folks uh that have i've gotten a little bit of feedback that people might think that we're a little soft on larry because uh of uh remembering him or whatever sure sure sure

and i would say uh i i take that criticism but i will also say that the only thing that i want to be uh careful about is i am fine with remembering his history and being like fuck you you sure sure sure sure i just don't want the occasion of his death to be the reason we would do something like that right right right and so um yeah maybe maybe a little bit soft if only to not be monstrous in in presentation i do i have no interest in turning him into any figure who's not a complete cretin oh yeah and a horrible toxic influence on everything that that matters it's weird for us to like we should probably be graded on a curve as far as what's the same thing with reverence go like everybody we talk about i would be fine if they all went into an incinerator

like they're they're all awful awful people with with very few exceptions and they are in this by accident yeah yeah yeah exactly we're no no no no fuck all of them well yeah and it's the same with you talking about earlier the like hillary is a demon and this is alex's whole thing and we're like yeah it's kind of mild yeah exactly yeah this is ambivalence yeah yeah we're graded on a curve yeah there's there's uh there's an understood these people suck yeah yeah exactly yeah but but just uh to be perfectly fair larry nickle sucks a whole lot this won't sound terrible but i want to say it to every white american concerned okay you better get out and vote because it's gonna be your last chance and again it's not racially based the media has made it racially based that's right

that's right no he literally made it racially based by saying that you bet and what do you mean it's not racially based he just said all white people need to vote or they'll never get to vote again yep that's racially based well all white conservatives yours all white people who are super invested in their whiteness you better vote because otherwise meanwhile literally right now everybody who's not a white conservative better fucking vote because it might be your last fucking chance you're the new larry nickles apparently i am um yeah i know so you hear stuff like that and it's like yeah okay larry i got you i hear what you're saying yeah yeah yeah put it down buddy anyway um racist piece of shit i found this stretch to be really interesting and really

now what i expected at all no i found it to be mild uh from a desperation standpoint but also not uh in the way of like we've got this in the bag there's still a like if we lose we still won because globalism is being discussed right right pc culture took a hit you know like it's kind of like a we're fine if we lose because our business is on the right direction we've created the talking points that we need in order to sustain years of fighting uh hillary who we've talked about are being a demon we might have to deal with that but you know we'll cross that bridge when we get to it um i i just i'm coming around to a possibility that alex did not want or expect trump to win which is not uh the framework i've had for the time we've been doing this show yeah

there is a little bit of we had our fun you know like we had our fun with trump he got to be a dick to everybody he got to make fun of all the non-white people we got our message out which is fuck non-white people and now it's like okay now we have to go back to the way we used to act it's interesting too that like you'd never really be able to really know what's what because alex will never be like hey uh don't don't vote for trump it's it's bad for business never you can't do that you have you have to be encouraging people to do the thing that will probably never work out yeah or even is not your preferred outcome you have to still push in that direction like alex would never want ron paul to actually win right but you can never be like well it's time

to give up on ron paul and vote for mit romney he's still a salesman you know his consumers you can't just force consumers to eat whatever it is you want them to you have to sell them a product they want uh you can force regular globalists to drink lots of blood dan that's the other thing too that was like really disappointing kind of is like looking back on like oh all of this is just about marina abramovich and her art that's how you get to the demon stuff uh you're just misrepresenting a couple passages from bill clinton's book about him being in devudu hillary's into seances because she imagined talking to elinor roosevelt like it's just it's just so impotent in terms of like having any legs to it there's no like the propaganda is so thin yeah and it worked i mean

i'm just look i'm looking for things that are like deeper and it's like no you just saw a painting that freaked you out it should be harder to end the world yeah i would suggest that you should have you should have to have something concrete to end the world on but apparently you can just do it with fiction you can do it every one that's amazing so uh we'll be back for another episode on wednesday and we'll be covering present day stuff and then next monday we will get back to the 2016 election stuff and uh right in time for our election very excited we will see how alex was behaving the day before his oh it's so scary yeah um who i don't know if this is a good idea but oh well yep anyway uh we'll be back but until then we have a website we do have a website

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