Knowledge Fight - #52: July 14-21, 2015

Episode Date: June 12, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about the fourth installment in his investigation into what happened to convince Alex Jones to sign up with Team Trump. In the last episode, we learned that Alex felt that ...Trump was a "predator," a "shill," and clearly mob-connected, so how does his opinion come to change? Topics covered on today's episode: Alex "intentionally" "jumps the shark" (?) Alex is fooled by criminally edited anti-Planned Parenthood propaganda videos A caller convinces Alex that Jade Helm is real, and that the UN is operating out of a Walmart in Alabama

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes who like to sit around and drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. That's correct. Today, we have Sprecker, a fire-brewed cherry-cran gourmet soda.
Starting point is 00:00:22 It is definitely gourmet. Cherry-cran. I don't understand. Now, hold on. Prediction. Prediction. Is it going to be cherry-cran cola or just cherry cranberry? What do you think? I don't know. I don't actually know what applying the word cola means.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Well, it means it tastes like a Coke, but with cherry-cranberry flavoring. Okay. Or is it just straight-up fruit soda? Um, let's go with Coke with, let's go with cherry Coke. Let's find out. Here we go. The big reveal. Jordan taking a swig. Wow. This is fucking delicious.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Yes. It is so good. This is the first. It's so good. I'm going to drink six of these. Yes. Um, what does it taste like? I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:01:07 No clue. Right now, all I can experience is joy. I will open mine up during our first clip, but first let's get to an out-of-context drop of Alex Jones. Before we do that, let me ask you a question about this show. Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Do you remember how we're professionals at this apparently? I don't. Oh, fair enough. Good point.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Listen, I know a lot about Alex Jones. Do you? I do. Can we take that again? From the top. There's a twist to this show. Is there a twist? I know a lot about Alex Jones.
Starting point is 00:01:36 I don't know anything about Alex Jones. Let's get to an out-of-context drop. And liberal. And liberal. I'm liberal. I rule. And liberal. Also.
Starting point is 00:01:53 All right. That's a good one. Yeah, it's pretty good out-of-context drop. I'd like to give a shout out. Is he also doing riddles with fucking Frodo in the dark? That sound like some sort of weird troll. Yeah. I'd like to give a shout out to someone who is not a troll being ladies and gentlemen. That is some great, great segway.
Starting point is 00:02:10 This is a first honorary policy won because I don't know if this guy donates to the show, but I've been putting off writing back an email to listener Brian for quite a while. He sent me what may be the world's greatest email. Okay. That really sort of lifts my spirits. Whenever I feel like it doesn't matter that we're doing the show, I can take a little look at this email and be like, all right, that's very reassuring. And I appreciate it very much to the point where I've been trying to write him back for
Starting point is 00:02:39 about two weeks and I can't. I sit down and I feel like an asshole. So instead of writing you back, Brian, I'd like to thank you publicly and give you an honorary policy wonk status. I'm a policy wonk. Welcome aboard. Welcome aboard, Brian. You don't need to give Brian to be a policy wonk.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Apparently your email was so good that Dan apparently kept it to himself and did not tell me about it, which I can only meet. I can only assume means you talk some serious shit about me. All about how much you suck is all about how the show is garbage and it should just be Dan Jordan yells too much. We just want Dan's analysis said nobody. I know it was more just I was embarrassed that it was so positive. I have to hide those things.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Anyway, thank you very much, Brian. It really does. It really does mean it really does mean a lot whenever people say nice things. Indeed. It really does or unnice things about Alex Jones. So today, Jordan, we're going to be embarking in part four of my investigation into what the fuck happened to Alex Jones in 2015. Right today.
Starting point is 00:03:44 We're going to be covering the time span of July 14th through July 21st 2015. It's going to be strange. It's a weird road ahead, but there's a lot of stuff that's very worth discussing and Alex Jones being very weird. Very weird. Okay. His headspace is so fucked up and I think I've started to piece a few things together. I'm going to give you some of this analysis up front.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Okay. I think that Alex Jones more than being just a propagandist is someone who's tricked by propaganda very easily. That would make sense. That that follows. And I think I like to play the game where there's something super nefarious going on and Roger Stone is pulling the strings behind him. As do we all.
Starting point is 00:04:31 And that may be the case, but a very simple explanation. Hopefully for the popularity of our show, it's the case. Sure. If we break that, that would be huge. That would be huge. Yeah. If it turns out he's just an idiot, then we all feel kind of weird. Don't we?
Starting point is 00:04:45 Because everyone's like, he knew that. I'm starting breaking. Scientists have discovered that Alex Jones is a fucking moron. I'm starting to get a sense that possibly a lot of his transformation that happens in 2015 is that there is weaponized propaganda going around and he is as much a proponent of it as he is a victim of it. Okay. And one of the things that made that click into place was I was listening very carefully
Starting point is 00:05:11 to James Comey's testimony last week. And one of the things that he was asked was when did the FBI become first aware of Russian hacking and Russian influence campaigns? And his answer was summer of 2015, which is right around the era when we're talking about. Okay. All right. I have noticed a lot of instances of Alex believing bullshit stories that
Starting point is 00:05:36 were deliberately or at least possibly trans traced back to it's possible. It's kind of Russian propaganda. Who knows campaign. It's possible. Uh-huh. I don't. I don't know if we can definitively say that we can definitely say that he believes complete lies.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Right. And he would be susceptible to that. Circumstantially, it does seem to make sense if he was hacked. Oh, there's all sorts of shit that now we've got a different nefarious campaign. I'm loving it. It's entirely possible. I'm loving it because if you were someone who was trying to use influence campaigns, if you were trying to use propaganda to sway public opinion,
Starting point is 00:06:15 right? One of the very obvious targets would be Alex Jones. He's clearly crazy. He's hiding something. Yes, he is. His finances are out of control. He has a lunatic fringe of audience like it would be someone who you'd obviously want a black male.
Starting point is 00:06:33 A lunatic fringe that we can probably safely say is proportionately more violent than the rest of us. Yeah. So I don't know if any of this will bear out, but that's something that I'm starting to look at and starting to feel is that he just falls for propaganda really easily and we'll see a bit of it over the course of this episode. But first, let's start in July 14th. Alex Jones has an interesting ride on July 14th, but he has one big
Starting point is 00:07:00 announcement that he starts the show with. Oh, this is very exciting. Oh, no, because I will get at well at the end of this clip. I will explain why this excites the shit out of me, but I think you'll know. I think you'll be obvious. Oh, yeah. All right, strap yourselves in. It's going to be a power packed loaded transmission today and we're going
Starting point is 00:07:19 to be going live right into the fourth hour. Most stations carry just the first three hours for years. I did four hours and a lot of stations still carry the fourth hour. That's a rear of the first hour or some stations carry the second, third and fourth hour. It varies, but I am looking at bringing back. I will announce here on air sometime this year, the fourth hour, but making the fourth hour, an intense news broadcast with a fourth hour round table
Starting point is 00:07:52 discussion where more than 50 news articles will be covered every day. Boom, boom, boom. Throw the topic out. Get a quick comment from the people on the panel. Take a call. Go to the next story. How's that you on globalists? They suck.
Starting point is 00:08:09 All right. So first of all, he failed. Oh, oh, really? Making a news heavy round table. News heavy. God damn it, Alex. That's a pipe dream even for you, sir, but bringing back the fourth hour means we're this much closer to John Rappaport.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Oh, that is true. Yeah. Cause he is a fourth hour host. Right. He can't exist within the context of three hours, but once the fourth hour comes, is there a possibility that we'll stumble upon an episode where he does try this fourth hour and that is the beginning. Well, Rappaport, he does do the fourth hour on this episode on July 14th.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Yeah. And he has Leanne McAdoo host. I mean, I mean, when we're talking about like the round table. So like he does, he tries that out, bro. I don't think he ever does that because of, I mean, but come on. You can't just, just the idea of Alex trying to coexist with three other people allowed to talk at the same time. Not a chance.
Starting point is 00:09:03 No, zero chance. I think his premise beautiful fire. I think the premise is he's not involved in the fourth hour. Okay. I think he is saying because he does get into like, I've been secretly training the anchors, having them on air. Why secretly just train them? That's a good idea.
Starting point is 00:09:19 I've been putting them on air. They don't know I'm building to something. David Knight anyway, but they should know it's their job. Another thing he talks about is how he's going to launch a TV network, which is important because he's lying about that currently. Yes. Two years later, uh, he's still saying we're about to do this. Roger Stone's going to have a TV show.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Mike Cernovich is going to get a show. Any moment now. Yeah. So, uh, I think there's reasons not to get too freaked out about Alex's stated plans in 2017 of having a TV network. I don't think we need to worry too much about that. Nope. But if it does happen, we do need to be very worried because.
Starting point is 00:09:54 I think it would rapidly become the most sued TV network in history. Yes. Now that worries me just because I don't know if I'm ready to allow my tax dollars to go to that many legal suits, but you remember how like spike TV immediately got sued because Spike Lee was like, that's my name. I did not remember that this will get sued faster. So I can't say this enough.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Bring on the wrap up or yeah, I'm excited for that to happen. Leanne McAdoo hosts the fourth hour in this episode and she is not ready. I think it's just very silly how somehow we've, we've developed this weird fascination with John Rappaport to the point where now I'm kind of rooting for him. I am too. He's the worst. He's a fucking miserable monster who tries to rip fun and joy from
Starting point is 00:10:46 everyone and spread this bullshit vaccination lie. But at the same time, look at you real look at you. You're a weird old monster that lives in a cave that can't fucking hang a goddamn painting. That's part of it. How can I not love this man? That's a big part of it. The other part is that he looks like a druid.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Like there's like he's a googly-eyed Muppet druid. Anyway, we'll get to John Rappaport when he shows up. He hasn't even shown up in an interview up till this point. So I don't even know where he is. Where was he found? I don't know, man. The other. I want an origin story.
Starting point is 00:11:21 The other realms. I want an origin story on John Rappaport. So, uh, is he Rattagast the brown? I think is the greater question. The gray. Like that's Gandalf. That's Gandalf. I apologize.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Rattagast was the brown. I'm not a big enough nerd. I'm sorry. I'm a big old nerd for the Lords of the Ringgoos. So some people have sort of religious feelings about Lord of the Rings. Would you agree with that? Some people sort of take it on as a religion. I'm talking about nerds here.
Starting point is 00:11:49 I feel like you're leading me towards something. I don't, I, this is a trap. This is not a smooth transition. This is a trap. This is a terrible transition. Also, this soda is really good. It's delicious. Alex Jones wants to talk about why he's been getting more religious lately.
Starting point is 00:12:01 And if you think that it's a complete thought, you're wrong. This soda is like Galadriel's water. You know what I'm saying? Shut up, nerd. You know what I'm saying? Nerd! Galadriel! Nerd!
Starting point is 00:12:13 People can say before I get into all this news and talk about the guests that are coming up that why are you getting more and more religious? Well, it's been said many times, there are no atheists and foxholes. And when you read about babies wrapped in gold foil being shipped out of China by the thousands every month and being turned into powder for women mainly to eat it, believing it makes them look younger. And nobody seems to care. When you look at hundreds of millions of abortions every year worldwide, when you look at the globalist poisoning our food and water supply by design
Starting point is 00:12:47 and forcing Gardasil shots on young girls all over the planet. When you look at our government funding ISIS and Al Qaeda, when you look at the borders wide open and El Chapo, now we learn had his wife move here to have her baby so he'd have an anchor baby. The billionaire drug dealer even lives off U.S. taxpayers. I mean, it's a joke. I mean, and so that's why I'm committed to fight as hard as I can. The British Special Forces slogan for the special air services,
Starting point is 00:13:24 the model of special forces worldwide. I mean, they were the first to do it. S. A. S. is fortune favors the bold. Well, I'm here to tell you I in the face of them coming after our guns, coming after our health, coming after everything fortune favors the bold. What is our fortune? What made our fortune? What made the prosperity and the freedom?
Starting point is 00:13:46 What that forbearers getting back down? What is he talking about? Refused to be down. A lot of them came from a super slavery. You name it, but they persevered to the point where at and our ancestors on losers, whether you're black, whether you're white, whether Hispanic or Asian, all peoples of the earth have incredible histories of incredible adversity and overcoming it.
Starting point is 00:14:10 And that's why we're here today. The fact that your parents and their grandparents and their great, great, great, great grandparents were able to have children and have them survive and pass that torch forward and the fact that we're alive today as a species and dominant on this planet is because we're winners. And I'm sick of people telling us we're not winners. I don't understand what this is supposed to be about. Consciousness is incredible.
Starting point is 00:14:34 An incredible God made you, whether you believe in God or not. Look around you. Reality is fantastic. Twelve dimensions they've discovered. Scientists believe there's probably life in other dimensions. What do you think all this is? We only see a very narrow spectrum of light just in the light spectrum of this dimension.
Starting point is 00:14:56 The eye has not seen the ear is not heard. What God, the universe, whatever you want to call it has in store for us and we're not going to let the globalist wall off reality, put us in a matrix to control us, dumb us down and then phase us out. Like we're a horse and buggy whip in 1920 and the factories are closing because nobody buys buggies and buggy whips and horses anymore. We are the innovators. We are the great creation.
Starting point is 00:15:24 We are in the image of the great creator. We are special. We are powerful. And that's why the fallen one is the bold wants to bring us down. So that's why Alex has been getting more religious. I don't know. Was there actually a reason in there? It was, it was that the closest it comes is that there's no atheists and
Starting point is 00:15:44 foxholes and he thinks the globalists are committing war on us. Yeah. Well, they're causing all the abortions and the hundreds of millions. Gardasil. Yeah. How many, how many people are born every year? Hundreds of billions. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:59 I don't know statistics on that. I don't know what we're at like 7.5 billion on the planet right now. So I assume it's like, I don't know, a hundred million babies born a year and then like 70 million people dying a year or something like that. So if there were hundreds of millions of abortions, that means that if he were to stop abortions, it's entirely possible. We would have 12 billion people on this planet next year. Well, according to the CDC, the Centers for Disease Control in 2013,
Starting point is 00:16:33 664,435 legal induced abortions were reported. So that's in the, that's in the United States. So hundreds of millions worldwide, obviously. Yeah, that makes sense. The other stuff is, is crazy. Like the, the babies covered in gold foil. That was my favorite that I immediately got a Willy Wonka's factory situation going there where babies were on conveyor belts and they were just
Starting point is 00:16:58 being rolled up in gold. There was a guy who got arrested with like some babies covered in foil, like mummified babies that he was trying to transport back to China from like the Philippines or something like that. I don't remember the, I don't remember the origin country, but the reason he was doing that is because China has a very interesting relationship with fetuses and babies, especially ones that have died. They have a whole tradition around abortion where if you get an abortion,
Starting point is 00:17:28 you're supposed to create a shrine to the baby and worship the fetus ghost. It's supposed to appease the fetus ghost, bring it food and stuff like that to help it live in the other worlds. That's like a, that's like a botchling from a old Norse mythology. Right. I don't know enough to speak on why someone would want to buy some stranger baby. I have no idea, but be that as it may, there's more complicated stuff going on
Starting point is 00:17:51 there than Alex is really wrestling with. It's not for people to eat them. The other stuff is so crazy. Like he believes in God, but then he gets into other dimensions. There's 12 dimensions. There's probably things living in them. Scientists believe that there are things living in other dimensions. And then I want to get, I want to just jump forward to another day's show
Starting point is 00:18:10 because it bears playing here in this clip. Alex Jones talks a little bit about what he believes about something specific to scripture. And I mean like, ooh, he's not a bad idea. He shouldn't really be bringing scripture up. I'm not certain he's talking about the same Christianity that most people know. Here you go.
Starting point is 00:18:28 And I don't like suicide, but I understand people do when they're in so much pain. I don't judge people to commit suicide and I don't think God does either. I can't speak for God, but just at my gut level in my spirit, I think if somebody's in excruciating pain or their kids have died in a plane crash and they're distraught and I understand jumping off a cliff, I wouldn't personally do it. But strong selling assisted suicide and and eugenics and euthanasia as if
Starting point is 00:18:55 it's just some choice of somebody who's in great pain is not what's happening. This is about devaluing human life and having the state remove people like THX 1138 or Logan's Run. So he's against assisted suicide and stuff like that because he compares it to a movie and things like Logan's Run. I think it's going to be government control of stuff. He could also have said the giver.
Starting point is 00:19:19 They had some government control baby killing. But then at the beginning of it, he's talking about like, I'm cool with suicide and I think God is too in my gut level. I say that. And I mean, if you look at the Bible, there's seven people who committed suicide clearly in the Bible. Yep. And six of them are called specifically wicked in the Bible further.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Job 121 says naked. I came from my mother's womb and naked. I will depart the Lord gave and the Lord has taken away a lot of people interpret that to mean that the Lord gives you life and the Lord chooses when your life will end. The Lord takes away when your life ends first Corinthians 1013. He will not let you be tempted by more than you can bear. But when you are tempted, God will also give you a way to escape that
Starting point is 00:19:58 temptation. A lot of people interpret that to be either temptation towards sin or temptation to God will not give you more than you can handle more than you can bear. Yeah, which is clearly bullshit further. If there, if you needed one reason to disbelieve the Bible, that would be definitely the one of further. One of the commandments is thou shall not murder and strictly speaking,
Starting point is 00:20:19 a lot of people believe that murder is suicide is murder. You're murdering yourself. It would be against if God has given you life. You don't have the right to take it away. That's a pretty consistent theological message, especially of people who have a pretty hard line on the Bible. Yeah, if you're anti-abortion, then the same logic has to apply to killing yourself.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Right. You'd think so. Alex is in this weird fucking religious space. Either way, I just wanted to bring that up because I don't know if you know this or not. But when Alex was growing up, his parents actually read him the apocrypha. They didn't actually, they didn't have a King James. They had all the Gnostic Gospels.
Starting point is 00:20:57 He has a Tobit tattoo on his arm. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or is that the Pseudopigrapher? The Gospel of Mary, the whole thing. The Gospel of, like, what was it? Is it Thomas or Judas that was discovered like 10 years ago? Judas.
Starting point is 00:21:09 That one didn't exist back when Alex was a weeboe. Yeah, look, I think if he grew up studying Gnosticism, he would actually be way smarter because you'd have to wrestle with these enigmatic riddles and you know, what's going on with the Barbello? What's going on here? Well, he was more a fan of the one we praise the pluroma. He's more a fan of the ones where Jesus fought dragons and killed other kids for no reason.
Starting point is 00:21:32 You know, the good stuff. Yeah, yeah. So we get back to the 14th here and something really important happened on the 14th up till this point. Alex has only said that he doesn't trust Trump and that Trump is mobbed up, all these sorts of things. Very negative things, although he does agree with his rhetoric. Loves bigotry, hates the mob.
Starting point is 00:21:52 And does not think it's bigotry. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but let's move on. So on this show, he has an interview with TV, I don't know if he's on TV, maybe just a radio host, Larry Elder, who is big into Trump. And I think Alex is a little bit blindsided by it. Oh, really? I think he's not ready to have this interview.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Was he not expecting this? I don't know. I'm not sure exactly. I think he wanted just to talk about race shit with a black guy and accidentally got sidetracked into talking to a guy who really sports Trump. Oh, okay. So what he was, what he was ostensibly doing is like pointing
Starting point is 00:22:31 to any like he's, he's got a globe and he just closes his eyes and points on is like, find me a black guy who agrees with me. Yep. And then we'll put him on the show. So I don't feel like a horrible racist because I'm totally a horrible racist. It's possible. So he starts by having a little conversation about identity politics.
Starting point is 00:22:50 So I think that's largely what he wants to talk about. I think you've really hit the nail on the head there. When you talk about, they've taken our basic freedoms. They've taken our economic future. They've taken our jobs. Let's talk about the globalists. And then all they give us is identity politics. That's why they're now drilling down into saying transgender.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Don't say dad and mom. Don't say husband and wife. Don't say boy or girl. They're doing this with a straight face to just kill any identity that isn't just worshiping the state. And that is why Alex Trump is resonating. And if I were Trump, I'd broaden the argument. He has not made the argument that illegal aliens pose a threat to job
Starting point is 00:23:29 prospects of people living in the inner city. But he soon will. So that that that I think is indicative of exactly what this interview is. Alex wants to talk about the globalists taking away identity and shit like that and that of course it's mostly influenced by the fact that people are still trying to take down Confederate flags and Alex is pissed about that. Yes.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Yeah. Battle flags. Everybody who fought in the Civil War bows to me in my lineage. Yes. Because of tariffs. Yes. And then tariffs immediately in answering that question. Larry Elder is like, Hey, no, man, I gotta tell you, Trump's pretty great.
Starting point is 00:24:04 And Alex. Well, that's why would you expect? Why does like why would Alex expect any of his guests with no prep time? Apparently none to just buy into the globalists like just because you're on info wars. You're not buying into the globalist. Well, one thing I've actually know. I'm glad you brought that up.
Starting point is 00:24:26 One thing that Alex does very consistently. If you listen regularly, he cucks out his guests really hard because of course he does. Well, the thing that he does and I've noticed this technique. You heard it a little bit there. Right. He's saying that like these people are trying to outlaw a boy and girl. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:42 You can't say mother and father. What he does is pretty early in the interview. He'll repeat a false story and get them to sign off on it. And if they will know that it's a false story, but they don't want to challenge his authority on the show because they also want to get to what they want to say. Exactly. They want to use the platform.
Starting point is 00:25:00 And after that point, they are essentially compromised. Right. So I know that he does that, but also I think that he has a big enough stable of people who are like, wink, wink on the globalists and stuff like that. So I mean, yeah, globalists, whatever. But did you hear about this Trump guy? I'm positive.
Starting point is 00:25:17 This isn't the first time Larry elders been on. It's just that we don't, we've not had him on an episode before naturally. So I'm sure they have a preexisting relationship wherein they both know that each other yells about globalists. Hmm. So the GOP is trying to outlaw preexisting relationships. It's true. That's true.
Starting point is 00:25:32 So the interview goes on a little bit and Alex expresses that he still doesn't really trust Trump. Larry, I want to get into the Donald Trump phenomenon because the mainstream media wouldn't be saying his name thousands of times a day and misrepresenting what he's saying. Hmm. If they didn't have a plan, I think it is to distract from the other Republican candidates thinking that Trump isn't serious is going to drop
Starting point is 00:25:57 out later. That's just what my guts saying. But regardless, he's a beautiful world. So he has to be defended. So that's where he's at. He's even in this in the middle of this interview with the pro top Trump Larry Elder. He's still saying I don't trust Trump.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Of course not. But what he is saying is true. So he has to be defended. He must be defended, which great. That's the logic of a lunatic. And now Larry Elder steps in it. Well, I disagree. I think Donald Trump has been defending himself just fine by not
Starting point is 00:26:23 apologizing by not backing down the way Republicans normally do recall when Todd Aiken said legitimate rape. All he was saying is some women in fact lie about rape. Not, not very many do, but about 10% apparently do all of a sudden rents, creeds, dumps on him and Todd Aiken got destroyed in the election. Donald Trump has not backed down. He's not afraid of being called a bigot. Words have meaning.
Starting point is 00:26:44 No, not in not have to mean things. Not in globalist. You have to have a word that means a thing. And then the word means a thing. So Todd Aiken's quote was in cases of legitimate rape. The body has a way of shutting that down. Right. Insanity.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Right. And then the second part that was about abortion one just putting legitimate rape, legitimate in front of rape has nothing to do with whether or not somebody lies about right now. That was entirely about all of the like, well, legitimate rape is you have to be beaten up. There needs to be a knife. You can't be coerced.
Starting point is 00:27:22 You can't be pressured on it. You can't give in. You can't be forced to do it. So to a certain point where you're like, well, I guess this is my fault. Now that is all rape. Right. It is not illegitimate rape. That's not a thing.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Then the second part is the second part is magic. Yeah. He said in cases of legitimate rape, magic is real. That's what he really. The body has a way of shutting that down. Yeah, shut it. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:50 So Larry Elder's argument is that Todd Aiken fucked up by apologizing. Yeah. And Trump isn't making that problem. He's not apologizing. He's not stepping into the same trap that Todd Aiken stepped into. And Todd Aiken probably would have done better if he hadn't apologized. I think that's what we've really learned is that again, dog whistling is for losers just out and out bigotry.
Starting point is 00:28:13 That's the rule of the law. Apparently it flies. Yeah, exactly. And it turns out that like, I mean, we said it even on like when it happened earlier, like early episodes of the show, Trump should not have fired Flynn. All of this probably wouldn't be happening if he just put his dick on the table and was like, no, yeah, I don't care. Because it's because the GOP wouldn't have done anything.
Starting point is 00:28:34 No, not a chance. God damn it. Imagine how because that's also the last time that he's really listened to anybody there either. It seems like it. Yeah. Like he everybody was like, Hey, you got to get rid of Flynn. This is a bad idea.
Starting point is 00:28:48 We're getting a lot of bad press. Yeah. And it's nonstop from there. And now anytime they're like, Hey, Trump, don't do this. He's like, I am dementia and then yells exactly the opposite. Like the time you told me to get rid of Flynn. He baby. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Yeah. That didn't work. You think you're so smart? Yeah. Oh, you think this travel ban shouldn't be called a travel ban? Cause then we'll win in court. No, travel ban. Do you know what it is?
Starting point is 00:29:13 It's the exact same thing I said it was on the campaign. It's the exact same thing that every court has said is illegal. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, we, this interview goes on a little bit longer and Larry Elder, even though he supports Trump in this next clip admits that Trump probably is just out for publicity. Well, I mean, I would certainly rather Donald Trump than a Hillary Clinton
Starting point is 00:29:35 in there, but in your gut. And I really respect your opinion on this. You don't think he's some type of ringer just getting political attention for his overall empire. Oh, I think it's all of the above. I think that Donald Trump feels the worst thing that'll happen is his name recognition will be even higher and maybe he'll make even more money. But I don't think he anticipated the fallout.
Starting point is 00:29:54 I don't think he anticipated that ESPN and NASCAR and Univision and NBC would dump him and other people are also thinking about dumping him. He may even lose clients in his, in his condos. Who knows? But I think overall what Donald Trump feels is the worst that'll happen is my brand will be even bigger, but maybe I'll make some noise. Maybe I'll make something happen. And let's not discount the possibility that he's sincere.
Starting point is 00:30:20 He thinks the country is going to hell in a handbasket. He thinks our foreign policy is weak. He thinks our deals with various other countries are weak and he thinks the country is going down and he thinks he as a business person can do something about it. I applaud the idea of him going off the grid for this time spending his time and his energy and his money trying to make the country better as opposed to making more money.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Why aren't people applauding that? I guess I have to say I applaud him because he is getting persecuted now and he's not backing down and he's not going to do the Miss America thing. He's going to focus on the campaign again though. Doesn't this show the other Republicans what they should have been doing the whole time? It most certainly does.
Starting point is 00:30:58 The other Republicans are wusses and that's one of the things that that pisses people off. That's the first thing I wholeheartedly agree with him on. Yeah, that's fair. But clearly, clearly with Trump in office and the other Republicans hating it and still not doing anything. Yeah, they're a giant group of wusses. Well, you see Larry Elder is affecting Alex and he's softening his
Starting point is 00:31:18 perspective. Absolutely. Even though the conversation they're having is about how he's probably fucking around for publicity to the point where Larry Elder even says, let's not discount the possibility. He's serious. Hey, let's not throw that away. No, I know it's an outside chance, but let's maybe serious and Alex is
Starting point is 00:31:36 like, yeah, we got to applaud it because he's putting his business things on the line, not realizing that he stands to gain so much from abusing the presidency. Oh man, and he sure does. Yeah. So the point where all of the like, they are right about everything being a publicity stunt and a and an idea to make more money. It just so happened that he got the presidency.
Starting point is 00:31:59 So he's using it to generate more publicity and make more money. Yeah. He's even got the Department of Justice arguing that he should be allowed to take money from whoever he wants. Yep. The department, the Department of Justice in the United States is actively arguing. You know that constitution?
Starting point is 00:32:17 Mm hmm. Not a fan. I fuck you. Fake news. While we're on this like little Trump thing, I loved that moment from his press conference at the end of last week where he's with the Romanian president and they're talking about waivers like visa waivers for Romanians and he's like, we didn't talk about it.
Starting point is 00:32:35 The new president's like, I brought it up. Yeah. Just like, what the fuck are we doing? You just watch that clip alone like, no, not not good. Take everything else away. That's bad. That's very bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:49 It's not good to trust a foreign leader. I have no idea what he's up to. Although my brother was born in Bucharest. So I have some relation to Romania. There you go. Spend a tiny bit of time there as a young boy and I remember it being miserable. Yeah. But that was also back in the well.
Starting point is 00:33:03 That's why you got to get waivers for your visa. It was in the late eighties though. So I mean that whole area is doing a lot better than back then necessarily. Anyway, Larry elders not quite done. Okay. He's got to be involved in two more clips that are pretty offensive. One is about Charleston and then the other one's just. No, this one is wild.
Starting point is 00:33:24 No, I mean, isn't that the answer that he pulls that gun out? Somebody pulls a gun out and blows him away and maybe only two people would have been dead him and maybe the first person he shot. I mean, isn't that the answer? Isn't it gun free zones and an anti gun culture? What really? What ended up killing these people casualties? You're baseline.
Starting point is 00:33:46 I don't know. Oh, I would rather have two people dead than no people dead. Yeah. Maybe if he didn't have a fucking gun, he wouldn't have been able to kill those people. It's possible. But then you get into the argument. He could have had a knife, you know, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:33:59 That's stupid argument. But it's a it's a dumb argument. But what's dumber is the idea that like, okay, someone there, it's their fault because they didn't have a gun. Yeah. And further, it's society's fault for disarming churches and it's, you know, it's the anti gun agendas fault that these people died, not the person, not the white supremacist who actually did it.
Starting point is 00:34:20 No, so it's the anti gun agenda. Keep that in mind because there's an interesting juxtaposition. Every time somebody gets shot by a gun, it's because the anti gun agenda. Not the white supremacist who's doing it, but keep that in mind because the Charleston shooting happened, you know, two weeks before this, but there's a shooting in Chattanooga that happens a couple days after where we're at in the timeline now and Alex treats it very differently. You know, I, I said that jokingly and then I realized that's exactly what they
Starting point is 00:34:52 believe every time somebody gets shot. It's because we say you shouldn't have guns. Yep. That's genuinely their position. That's how, how do we lose to these people, dad? I don't know. These are the dumbest fucking people. Speaking of dumb, it's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Speaking of dumb, listen to this clip. Okay. Alex has some weird fucking thoughts about who's to blame for racism. Oh, no. Well, it's really sad because I saw a lot of racial harmony. People coming together. Uh, it was just really refreshing and now I've never seen it so energized in my whole life, not, not growing up in the, you know, early seventies and stuff
Starting point is 00:35:31 in the eighties and it just, it's so cold blooded. See it. Yeah. Maybe you're blind. Maybe because you didn't have to deal with it. Yep. Maybe white people, one of the big reasons you don't understand racism is because it's not a thing you deal with.
Starting point is 00:35:45 It's not germane to your immediate experience. Yeah. So of course you think racism isn't a problem because it's not a problem for you. You have to, you have to, you know, really expand your mind and try and relate to other people's experiences to understand just how insidious you don't even have to really expand your mind. You have to just look at a person and be like, Hey, what did you experience?
Starting point is 00:36:05 And they tell you a thing and you're like, Oh, that's probably true. I should write. I should respect your experience instead of, instead of telling you what your life experience is, is wrong. No, cause you tell me your life experience. And then my response is, Oh man, it sucks. The globalists are doing that to you. It is.
Starting point is 00:36:21 So it does suck. The globalists are doing that to me. Sucks, man. Uh, so that's it for the 14th. And we, we see just a little bit of softening in Alex's position towards Trump, uh, and we move on to the 15th, which we're not going to cover cause David Knight hosted, but something important to remember is July 15th, 2015 was when Jade Helm 15 kicked off the old Jade Helm.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Oh, the one that he said was, uh, was real. And then later told us was not real. We don't really know if he said it was real per se. We don't have audio evidence of that. So let's not make that claim. Fine. Disappointing. We have good reason to believe he did, but we can't prove it.
Starting point is 00:37:01 If we can't prove it, then we can't, but I, then I will retract that statement, but we will see where his head is at a little bit later. Of course we will. On the episode of July 16th, when Alex is back in studio. Of course. So Alex starts off, uh, out, uh, the July 16th episode with a little bit of a tease, uh, that, uh, should scare everyone. I really spent some time watching Donald Trump speeches and his interviews.
Starting point is 00:37:32 And coming up at the bottom of the hour, I'll give you my take on Donald Trump. I've really done some soul searching on the subject and I'll give you my take on whether I think he's a shell or not. Spoiler alert. He still thinks he's a shell. We'll see. That comes a little, you comes a little later in the episode. I was waiting for you to tell me.
Starting point is 00:37:50 So on this episode, uh, Alex Jones has, he's all over the goddamn place on the 16th. It is a massive clusterfuck of weird narratives, strange things he says. Uh, but one of them is Mark Dice has a new video. We're not going to listen to it. Don't worry. Okay. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:38:07 It's all the same shit. Thank you so much. It's the exact same setup. It's just him talking to people on a beach with the club board getting owned. Yeah. Basically. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:15 This one is about how Mount Rushmore is racist. Uh, and they actually agree with that very much entirely. I mean, like Roosevelt's up there. No, I mean that they took American native lands. Oh yeah. That part and used it to build giant monuments to the very people who stole those American native lands. You know what?
Starting point is 00:38:35 Mark Dice doesn't wrestle with that. I, I, I strangely feel like I should have known. So Mark Dice has gone out and done this video and I wanted to play this clip just because it indicates again, this insidious cycle that Alex Jones perpetuates wherein he has one of his reporters go out, create some video that doesn't say what he pretends. It says drudge links to it or it gets, you know, it gets a link up somewhere and then Alex Jones repeats it as news.
Starting point is 00:39:00 He's going to say that there's a headline and the headline is that people are calling for the destruction of Mount Rushmore, which isn't happening. It's entirely based on Mark Dice's video at the end of this clip. It's very short, but he says that there's this is news up top and then at the end he says he told Mark Dice to go make this video. So it's just a closed loop. Yeah, completely nonsensical. Well, that's, that's how that's how Fox News operated almost from the very
Starting point is 00:39:28 beginning. They're, they're their trick was always to have their news people say, you know, a basic story. Then their opinion people would be like, this is what is really happening. And then they're the next day, the news would keep it in the cycle by saying people are saying what is happening commentators exactly, but it's people. It's just people are saying, you know, we're reporting on what people are saying.
Starting point is 00:39:54 We're not verifying it or supporting it. Just so happens that the people that said it are on our network and we have a vested interest in making sure that you have their thoughts in your mind all the fucking time, but people are saying it. We're reporting on it. So here's our reporting on what Alex Jones does a new video. Obama supporters advocate tearing down racist Mount Rushmore. We told you that was coming.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Is it? In fact, I said a few weeks ago, reporters go out and call for tearing down Mount Rushmore. Well, Mark Dice has done it. So I mean, wait, what? Yeah, that's basically him saying, hey, go, go stage this thing. Go out and try and get us evidence for whatever narrative we want to support.
Starting point is 00:40:36 And then my prediction will have come true when he's, I love that version of reporting. Yeah, it's, it's not, it's, it's quite literally fake news. Yeah, exactly. But like when he says, uh, I told you this is coming. He's not saying I told you this video was going to be released. That's not the context. He's saying he's saying that in much the same way he predicted that people
Starting point is 00:40:55 would be calling for the American flag to be banned. Of course. Based on Mark Dice's video. Yeah. All of these things are things like I made these predictions and then I told my reporters to somehow justify my stupid fucking prediction. That's why he's a hundred percent right all the time. All the time.
Starting point is 00:41:10 All the time. You know what? He's not just, you can predict everything so long as you make it happen. So he's not just right all the time. He's wrong all the time. Oh, now this is going to get bad. It's going to get Mark Dicey. Something else happened in July of 2015, uh, that is really funny
Starting point is 00:41:34 conceptually, but isn't funny at all. Uh, and that is that the center for medical progress went and made all those behind the scenes videos about Planned Parenthood people selling baby parts. That's right. And I'm going. The ones they're in jail for now, right? Uh, they're not in jail yet, but they've been charged with 15 felonies.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Good. They, I believe the sentencing is still to come and what have you, but. Oh, I hope it's so much jail. They're in big trouble. I want a lot of jail. They're in big trouble for this and I'll explain exactly why on the other end of it, but I want to really point out Alex Jones fucking buys it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:08 He is so into it. He talks about it a little bit here and then the entire show a couple days later is all about it. Well, that was a, it was an entire news cycle. Yeah. All made up and that was all you heard that narrative being pushed to the point where now just like, just like Obama's a secret Muslim. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:26 The GOP still believes it. They still believe that Planned Parenthood sells baby parts. Yep. And okay. I'll just explain it now. Even though the people who, even though the people who disseminated those videos are going to jail, they're still like, ah, no, that was true. They're just being prosecuted because of the powers that be or whatever
Starting point is 00:42:45 fucking nonsense they want to lie about. The guy who's behind the center for medical progress is a guy named David Daedalyn, uh, or Dale, Dale Dean, uh, Dale Den. Who cares? I'm good. Uh, his organization set up a fake jail Dean. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:42:58 His organization. I got it. Yeah. They set up a fake biomedical research company called Biomax procurement services under this guys. They posed as potential buyers of aborted fetal tissue and organs and secretly recorded Planned Parenthood officials during meetings. Uh, the center for medical progress released edited versions of these
Starting point is 00:43:14 videos, which it promoted is showing Planned Parenthood officials price haggling over baby parts. When the full unedited videos became available, they instead showed a Planned Parenthood executive repeatedly saying its clients want to cover their costs, not make money when donating fetal tissue from abortions to scientific research. According to the lawyer for Planned Parenthood, Roger K. Evans, Biomax proposed sham procurement contracts offering $1,600
Starting point is 00:43:39 for liver and thymus fetal tissues. I went back and I watched all of these videos. Uh-huh. They are shamelessly edited to the point where anyone who doesn't have an agenda that this supports would be like, come the fuck on. It's so crazy. And Alex is so into it. He like, I can't wait till we get to the 20th because that's when
Starting point is 00:43:59 he really tees off on it. But he is so you can't wait. So we can take off on him. Yeah. Essentially. Yeah. So gotcha. Also, the other thing that's important to point out is, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:10 these guys, uh, let me, let me get these specifics here. Uh, so they are ba ba ba ba on March 8th, March 28th, 2017. This, uh, Dale Den and his cohort were charged with 15 felonies in the state of California. One for each of the people who they had filmed without consent because they did not get consent. Uh, and one for those hidden videos where they didn't get consent and edited heavily, making it seem like they were committing
Starting point is 00:44:35 a crime. Yep. And one for criminal conspiracy to invade privacy. Now, the thing that is really, uh, important to note is that, uh, this is funny. This is okay. Good. Every now, now we're awesome.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Now I'm free and clear. Everyone investigated their claims. The Senate, the, the house, all these state governors, everyone investigated it and everyone cleared Planned Parenthood. Everyone did investigations. You know who didn't clear plan Planned Parenthood center for medical progress. No, the fucking everybody.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Yeah. Uh, everybody who listened to it, but this one, this one's particularly funny. On July 30th, 2015, Indiana governor, Mike Pence announced that the state's investigation did not find any evidence of wrongdoing in Planned Parenthood's handling of fetal tissue. Oh, oh, Mike Pence had to say that out loud. I bet his babies died.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Yeah. So I mean, it's just, it's insane. The number of investigations that were opened into it, they're like select committees, uh, the, the Jason Chaffetz, uh, the chairman of the United States house committee on oversight and governmental reform, that giant pussy on October 8th, 2015. He stated that a GOP investigation found no evidence of wrongdoing by Planned Parenthood, even people who are like strontially against
Starting point is 00:45:55 Planned Parenthood are all like, fuck, there's nothing here. And who did everything possible within that investigation to try and prove it so hard. That was investigated so thoroughly for even the slight cause if there was even a slight bit, they would have been like, well, the entirety of the claim wasn't proven, but we did catch them on this, the, you know, the Al Capone, uh, racketeering charge of Planned Parenthood and they couldn't find fuck all.
Starting point is 00:46:22 So the exception is that there was a select committee in the United States house, uh, uh, house, uh, the committee on, on energy and commerce select investigation panel on Planned Parenthood was formed to further investigate Planned Parenthood with Congresswoman Marsha Blackburn serving as the chairwoman. She sucks. On September 21st, the panel voted eight to zero to recommend holding StemExpress, which was a business that did research and got tissue
Starting point is 00:46:46 from Planned Parenthood in contempt of Congress for failure to comply with a subpoena. The six Democratic members on the panel walked out of the meeting and protest before the vote. The committee's final report recommended that quote, the National Institutes of Health be required to stop funding fetal tissue research and that the huge, uh, health provider Planned Parenthood be stripped of U.S.
Starting point is 00:47:05 funding. According to science, uh, the publication science, the report contained multiple inaccuracies. Democratic members of the panel who had not been permitted to read, respond to, or vote on the final report, released an alternate report in which they criticized the committee for relying on McCarthy era tactics and a relying on unsourced, unverified documents and writing of the report.
Starting point is 00:47:25 So that's sort of some of the aftermath of this. How, how is this like, I get that you don't, don't you like not being disease-ridden? It's nice. Dan, are you a big fan of that? Sure. Do you want to, do you want to continue not being disease-ridden? Right?
Starting point is 00:47:43 Now, you know, new diseases can happen. It's true. Like they can happen at any time. Yeah, they can evolve. Or, you know, like there might be genetic issues. Sure. Don't you want to research this? No.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Don't you want to learn more about it? Not just, not just because, you know, you're fine now, but because maybe in the future, there will be information that you want to have. You're talking voodoo, my man. Information that you can protect yourself with. You don't play God. Don't you want to research on things that are already dead? Don't play God.
Starting point is 00:48:09 You can't, you can't. You can't praise a spirit and keep yourself from getting sick. Why? You, can we just not give them science? You know, they don't get it. You know what the other thing? I, you know what? Eight member panel.
Starting point is 00:48:25 You don't get any science from now on. It's a 14 member panel. Six of them walked out. Yeah. Yeah. So all eight of you, you get notes, your phones gone. So TVs gone. You know what?
Starting point is 00:48:35 We didn't land on the moon because you're not allowed to believe that. The true comedy of it too is in this video. There are people who like this guy is giving these high prices that they're going to pay for fetal tissue and stuff like that. And pretty much across the board, the people are like that, that's higher than we pay. Like they're haggling, but it's the reverse of what you would expect in haggling.
Starting point is 00:48:59 The person's coming too high because they're trying to make it look like there's a, a, a tissue scam going on. Right. Right. 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:06,200 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:06,700 Right.
Starting point is 12:01:00 00:49:06,700 --> 00:49:08,400 They're trying to make money off of it. Right. When in reality, it is like $50 for samples to credentialed and certified research centers. Of course. So because because because plan so stupid, because plan parenthood is so hated by the GOP for doing awful things like providing women and men and children with coverage and, and help and health.
Starting point is 00:49:27 You know, that kind of a thing, making sure that we don't get not disease Britain, right? They hate them for that. So plan parenthood is always under investigation. It is always being scrutinized. So of course, if you go and try and catch them, do something, they have safeguard under safeguard under safeguard. Like we will show not even the slightest bit.
Starting point is 00:49:50 We will give them no evidence so that even though when they close down those clinics at the end of the day, we will have been within perfect understanding and compliance with the law. Yep. Well, the other thing is that because if they aren't, it's gone for good every single one of them. I agree. The other thing is that like this is so indicative of what I what I
Starting point is 00:50:11 talk about with propaganda and truth like this still people believe. It's utter horseshit and still people believe the damage is done. You can explain a way that like, no, these people are manipulative of the editing videos to say things. They don't say these people have all been investigated by legitimate boards and cleared of all any wrongdoing. And the people who made the videos are going to jail for it. Most likely, or at least being fucking sued real hard.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Oh, yeah. It doesn't matter. The propaganda is too effective. Now, let's get to the clips of Alex. He has a couple clips about this on this episode on the 16th. And one of the things that's really important to remember is all of the people in the videos are women. So we're going to treat them with a lot of respect and dignity.
Starting point is 00:50:56 I'm sure that there will be zero comments on their appearance. I don't know. No, there are, but I'm not sure if I kept any of those in because I actually think that there's something even more important that goes on and that is that Alex Jones is clearly using coded language to evoke classism. There is like, I'll play these clips. You'll know what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:51:16 It's very overt. Okay. He does this a lot, but it's almost, it's almost never this clear. It's fascinating to me. Another important article stone cold proof that America deserves judgment. And that's the breakdown of Planned Parenthood's custom cold director. So one of their major directors of an entire national program.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Senior director of medical services for the Federation of America. Planned Parenthood. She was just talking about selling body parts and how they're trying to get around it to make more money. It's not what they're doing. Sitting there drinking wine at an expensive restaurant, fine dining. And again, this, this is a picture or a video that tells a million words of literally stuffing, paying for expensive wine and Italian food.
Starting point is 00:52:14 At an upscale restaurant. Fortune favors with a paycheck from baby's body parts. They don't get their paychecks from baby's body parts, but also did you see how he kept those fat cats, the fine bottles of wine upscale dining? They are getting rich off of the tragedy. Yeah, abortion. Totally. They're convincing.
Starting point is 00:52:35 They're convincing, susceptible young women. And you know, that's who we're really afraid of. We're afraid that you're going to corrupt our young women. Yeah, we can't have you do that. Next thing you know, they'll be sleeping with black men. They're too dumb to know any better. But anyway, this, like this thread runs throughout his entire coverage of this video.
Starting point is 00:52:56 It's so dog whistly in terms of class, which is frustrating because we have such a huge issue with class, a huge issue with class to the point where of course it is resonant. Yeah, it should resonate, but it should be. But it's manipulative in this case. I want to eat the aborted tissue of the billionaire I ate. Is that how that works? I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:53:19 I don't know what my science was on that one. Well, but billionaires are fucking us over all the time. You, if you did do that, you wouldn't be able to afford a nice bottle of wine, a fine bottle of wine. Oh, well, I would age the billionaire. He's making so appropriate. He makes so many assumptions about in the hard tack. They show this, the video that he's talking about is a video where a lady
Starting point is 00:53:38 is eating a salad. I don't, I don't know if it's a classy establishment. You really can't tell from the video and she is drinking a glass of wine. She's eating a salad. Fucking. You don't boozy bullshit. You don't know if this glass of wine is $7. You have no fucking idea how much this costs.
Starting point is 00:53:54 That's not in the videos that he's going over. If it's not from a box, it's too rich for my blood. I go, Carlos Rossi. Pirate jug. So here's, here's him being more, more classism or more classism about the Planned Parenthood videos. We played the video the last two days. Maybe I should play it again as she smacks her lips and enjoys it and clearly
Starting point is 00:54:14 gets off on talking about baby parts while she's swarping fine red wine. But also that's not indicative of the video at all. There's no one getting off. There's no one enjoying the idea of aborted babies at all. It's just dealing with it as like, oh, there is a research use for this, this tissue that would be being thrown away that is completely legal for them to first of all take. They have to get waivers from everybody, everybody who gets an abortion.
Starting point is 00:54:43 There's consent forms that they have to have filled out. And some people don't sign there when they don't three day waiting periods and they're all this shit. Right. And longer than you have to wait to get a gun. Right. Well, it's cause you can, you can get a, you can actually get same day abortions at an abortion show.
Starting point is 00:55:03 Oh, that's true. There's a loophole in that law. You can also get a Nazi abortion free speech. So there's two more clips, not of this, but there's two clips that are kind of fun. And then we'll get into Alex's big reveal about his soul searching about Trump is going to come. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Like, like I said, that this episode is really all over the place. The 16th. He is in a strange headspace because this video is fucking him up and he knows that I gotta, I gotta work on this, but then he's also got a couple. He has an interview. He's got to do later in the show and then he gets a fucking huge curveball thrown at him like right at the end. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:39 And he's just sort of, he's, he's untethered. He's all over the place. Uh, and it, what's interesting to me is now that, now that he mentions that human sexuality being as diverse as it is, somebody does get off on the idea of certainly fetal tissue, right? 00:55:55,600 --> 00:56:00,200 Probably one of the Satan is to, if there's anything we know about, uh, the most zealous, anti-gay, uh, GOP years.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Sure. Generally they're the ones we find with rent boys. Yeah. So I'm guessing, especially with all of our weird perverted sexual fantasies that, uh, Alex has thrown in there and is, has been like, this is awful. And then he's like, just this young little girl just getting taught. Yeah. Like that tone of voice.
Starting point is 00:56:24 He does do that a lot jerks off to those videos. It's possible. Oh yeah. I'm not going to make that claim, but I am going to make the claim very strongly that when Alex Jones is untethered, when he has no bearing, what ends up happening is often he ends up bragging. And this, yes, that's true. This next clip jerks his own dick.
Starting point is 00:56:42 This is a fucking weird brag. No, they hate me. They're a group of crooks. The globalists. Stealing our freedom, running every scam you can imagine, selling off our infrastructure pennies on the dollar. I know their game plan. I know their fraud.
Starting point is 00:56:56 I'm straight shooting. They can't stand it. And they are now assassinating me big time. My name, who I am, a head because they've got actuaries. They've got demographics. They've got graphs. You don't know what an act. They know we've hit the Megazite guys.
Starting point is 00:57:13 I mean, it is when I told the story last week about how I took my kids down to the hiking bike trail where there's a big luscious Creek, Barton Creek on the city owned green belt. The pop. Keep in mind, he just said, I told this story before. Yeah. He's going to tell it again. No.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Well, I mean, this bear is telling twice. He's got to fill time, man. This is my favorite ring belt. Just giant city parks. Basically 40,000 acres of them to be precise. And there were like 30 something people standing around at the waterfall. They're killed by my neighbor's owl.
Starting point is 00:57:50 All of them were pointing at me saying that's Alex shows all of them. Yeah, of course. And about 10 or 15 of them came over. Five years ago, maybe 10 of them would be staring at me and five would come over. I walk. I don't know. Is that a good thing?
Starting point is 00:58:03 Is that a bad thing? A few nights ago and was walking to get an Uber, maybe 200 yards. And every group of people that walked past me downtown, every group said that's Alex Jones. Paranormal. I don't know how we're reaching this many people. We don't see the numbers on the website. We don't see that.
Starting point is 00:58:23 I mean, we see huge numbers, but nothing like this. This show is loved all over the world now. Governments listen to it because I'm just a straight shooter and we have a very accurate history and I can't believe I'm still alive. Please pray for us, but they are assassinating us right now. Very accurate history on the same show. Pitches this fraudulent plan parenthood narrative. Yeah, it's very accurate history.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Also, ooh, you're getting in a bougie Uber. Yeah. So I mean like you're exploiting the underclass. Well, but I mean, if you want to play the game of like, ooh, this fancy bottle of wine, ooh, you're paying a poor person to drive. Yeah, exactly. Fuck you, Alex. But like I love, I love it because you can read between the lines what
Starting point is 00:59:09 he's experiencing. He's saying that like everyone's pointing at me and saying that's Alex Jones, which I believe is probably happening and then possibly then he's like, we're not seeing these kind of numbers on the website because of course you're not. People are aware of you at this point because of memes. People are making fun of him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:28 And so when everyone's like, oh, fuck it's Alex Jones. Yeah, exactly. That's how they're saying it. It's not like, oh my God, there's the truth teller. He thinks he's, he thinks he's in a hard day's night now. That's what he thinks is going on. He's walking down the street and young new bile women are screaming his name. No, fuck that.
Starting point is 00:59:43 I think he thinks it's like John the Baptist or something like that. Oh, okay. We're going even more delusional. Yeah. I think he thinks people are like seeing him walk around like, I don't know, Jerusalem or whatever. I don't remember exactly where John the Baptist was. Wherever the fuck he was.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Who cares? Judea. I don't know. Anyway, he's walking around John the Baptist and I was like, oh my God, it's the baptizer. It's the one who prophesied the coming of Christ. Yeah. That's what he thinks.
Starting point is 01:00:05 He thinks people are like, oh my God, it's the guy who tells everyone the truth about the globalists. Oh man. God. Crazy. What a crazy world. Yeah, but he actually gets to a little bit later, explain why there's such a disconnect between his version of reality and everyone else's, which I'll
Starting point is 01:00:25 play for you and I'll see if you buy into it. I don't know. Maybe you will. I bet I do. I don't know. It's a pretty, I bet it's actually 100% accurate. It's very sensible. I'm going to guess this.
Starting point is 01:00:35 The reality of the globalist assault is so overwhelming. So mega massive evil so completely given over to death that the average person can't even basically see it because it's so alien to their nature, to their fundamental nature of being good people. So you can't see the globalist because they're too evil. That's his explanation. Yeah. That's really dumb.
Starting point is 01:01:04 No, that makes perfect sense. I can conceive of a lot of fucking evil shit. I can imagine terrible plans. But you are awake, Dan. You listen to infowars. That's true. See, this is the problem. Even though I mean, me, I can't
Starting point is 01:01:18 conceive of the globalists. I think it's insane. I think it's too crazy. It's too far beyond me because I am a generally good person. I'm honest. So also a straight shooter. This is as good governments. Listen to me.
Starting point is 01:01:32 This is as good a time as any for me to reveal that I've started reading the books that Alex talks about that are like the foundational pieces of his cosmology. And like I've already read none dare call it a conspiracy and it's fucking stupid. Of course, it's absolute utter garbage. And complete misunderstanding. Is it a fun read though?
Starting point is 01:01:51 Nope. Oh, it's not even that great. Very dry. Yeah. He also talks about Zbigniew Brzezinski a lot and I've read most of the great chess board. Was he the was he like the Secretary of State for a Carter? Maybe.
Starting point is 01:02:05 I want to say. Yeah, it was Carter. That's one. It only Carter would pick a non white male male American name. He's white. No, I know, but his name is Zbigniew. Yeah. That's true.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Yeah. So I've read part of Reagan's picking Paul or Derek Reagan's not picking as a big new big new Brzezinski I've read parts of the great chess board and I'll get to reading all of it eventually. But Alex has complained a lot about the book the technotronic era. And it's interesting because it's not at all what he talks about. It's about the band. Yep.
Starting point is 01:02:41 Okay. It's about the polyphonic spree. It predicts they're coming. It's actually called between two ages America's place in the technotronic era. And first of all, I fucking love the book from the jump because it opens with a Steppenwolf quote, which is my favorite book and like Zbigniew.
Starting point is 01:02:58 You kidding me? All right. All right. So it's I'm not quite done with the book yet and it could take a harsh turn in the last chapter. But so far what it's about is it was written back in the 60s and it's about how technology is going to be super important in terms of modernization and the world.
Starting point is 01:03:19 So he's off to a great start. And a large chunk of the book is talking about how developing countries and the burgeoning markets what have you are going to have a really difficult time keeping up with the technology because in order to modernize generally you need stability. That's mostly it's not saying we need to keep them unstable. So they won't develop like what Obama said what Alex thinks Obama said it's more it's more lamenting the impossibility or
Starting point is 01:03:58 the unlikelihood of countries even like India. If you looked at it from the 60s, they didn't look like they had a very good chance of catching up with the rest of the world and they're still struggling to catch up. But they're doing a lot better job of it than Zbigniew could have predicted. Yeah. But yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:13 No Zbigniew he just died recently. Yeah he did. But yeah by by all the accounts that I've read he was actually a pretty pretty good dude. And again I haven't finished the book. It could take a real hard turn. But I so far I'm finding Alex probably doesn't understand what he's reading.
Starting point is 01:04:30 I think that there's probably like you even mentioned earlier the schizoid tendencies where he thinks everyone's pointing at him and maybe they are laughing at him or maybe he imagines it. Yeah or in this case and in his reality it doesn't matter whether it's real or imagined to him. No it is real. And so he's reading this book and he's like they're fucking with me.
Starting point is 01:04:50 He's reading the book. I'm sure he's like oh this is the globalist plan and I'm the one who can see it through this because everyone else who reads this doesn't understand evil enough. Yeah. They can't conceive of the idea that he's writing about this this sort of other weather based technology. But it's in code.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Right. And he has to he has to say that you know otherwise people would be like what we got to tear him down. But he's signaling to his other globalist cohorts. Wink globalist. This is our next way to you know. Right. And yeah of course well fuck we wouldn't even get Godzilla for
Starting point is 01:05:27 another 10 years or whatever. So no the first one was like in the 50s. Oh that's right. It was one of the Raymond Burr. I forgot about that. I'm sorry. No the Raymond Burr one was the that was the American remake of the original.
Starting point is 01:05:38 Yeah. Yeah. Because they had to make it more palatable and we didn't need to be the bad guys. No we can't be the bad guys. So that's that's I apologize that was a little more extended than I intended it to be. But I am fascinated by reading all these texts of like where
Starting point is 01:05:55 does he get these ideas from and finding out they don't match up with what he's referencing. I love the the promise of this podcast is you and I will get to laugh at Alex Jones in person and instead we got Zabignu Brzezinski's book and not that clips of him reading it or anything like that. You just giving us a rundown and I still haven't finished. So so policy walks out there.
Starting point is 01:06:25 Go ahead and look forward to the second half of the Zabignu Brzezinski book report. I fully talk to the fact that the next installment could be like holy shit he was right all the odds of that are infinitesimal very low very low there is an outside chance I will be reporting back Alex Jones is fucking right you guys we have got to run but for now it's time to get to the results of Alex Jones's soul searching yes and I'm going to call this hints of
Starting point is 01:06:55 a heel turn. Ooh so what do they do when info wars dot com and prison planet dot com my reporters and writers and myself have been chronicling this for 20 years. The globalists and others before us well they just come out and they misrepresent what we're saying what we're doing and they've done the same thing with Donald Trump now this weekend and then throughout the week I watched hours of Donald Trump
Starting point is 01:07:22 videos on CNN NBC Fox News the lengthy 20 30 minute interviews he does I did not read anything no but I would also like to point out that if he's actually watching hours of the footage then he has to have watched the interviews where he says kill terrorists families yeah he has to say has to have watched the videos where he says we should have stolen oil from countries yeah as war plunder we have to have watched all of the interviews where he says that Putin is a great guy you
Starting point is 01:07:51 know talking about how great Putin is Alex Jones now by virtue of the fact that you've watched hours of those interviews you have to be aware of those things and if you're okay with them then you're okay with all that and that's not good for you. Well I mean it's the same it's the same opportunism that gets us to where we are it is that that whole idea of I will deal with well just just the British election hold off hold off
Starting point is 01:08:20 because we don't know where he's going to land on this you know I know but this is this is that this is that signal okay wait are you saying he's not going to land where we think he's going to I don't know where he's going to land I haven't listened to this yet you son of a bitch I sincerely don't think it's going to go exactly the way you think okay well let's listen this and then I'll see if my point is still valid alright and I went back into research on Donald Trump.
Starting point is 01:08:46 He has supported assault weapons bands he has supported Democrats more than Republicans in the past. He does own casinos and I'm not judging him I'm a libertarian you're you can do that I don't think it should be illegal but I have a right to say I think it's degenerate you also say most people tied yeah I'm not a gambler so you know I mean I've been to Vegas for a video shoots before and gone to a roulette wheel played some back blackjack one money lost money the last
Starting point is 01:09:14 time he started talking about that he was like I've played some poker but that's a whole different thing that's really the only gambling I do yeah and now this time yeah I've been to Vegas and I played a lot of roulette and also the last time he was like people who run casinos or predators yeah yeah Trump is basically with a name like Trump you don't get arrested with one like Genevieve exactly he said that he's the frontman for a consortium on the East Coast he's not really rich all
Starting point is 01:09:42 that stuff but as a libertarian it's his right to say that yeah so let's continue and it's his right to then lie about watching the people they're totally in enamored in a cult I thought was sick and knowing that I was being chumped it's kind of like I smoke marijuana a couple times a year to actually see what the latest stuff does because I like it so fucking stupid five or six times I've gambled was so I could experience it true experimentation and I can tell you I don't like marijuana
Starting point is 01:10:11 and I don't like gambling that doesn't mean you should be thrown in jail for marijuana it doesn't mean you should be stopped under chocolate but I'm kind of digressing here I've done deep research into Trump and I think he is a self-made person I think he's very articulate very charismatic very smart no about 95 when he says bomb the oil fields that's common sense I said that a year and a half ago took over I said but our government wants them to have those oil fields
Starting point is 01:10:44 it's a proxy army of Saudi Arabia so see if Trump went further like Rand Paul and said that then I would really supporting Rand Paul is better but Rand Paul should be turning up the heat and being a little more like Trump he should be yes quite frankly as radical as Trump because Trump's not being radical and Gary Johnson I want to get back on the show get back to Gary Johnson in a second so our problem our problem is basically Rand Paul isn't big enough to be president will
Starting point is 01:11:18 know it's that Rand Paul isn't crazy enough publicly and Trump isn't crazy enough in his position if you could just get both of those crazies together then you'd have a candidate and we'd have the whole thing meanwhile let's remember a couple weeks ago he was saying I am Rand Paul or bust maybe Ted Cruz yeah so so we're we're smoothing the way out but he's mad at Gary Johnson he's going to get into that former New Mexico governor has probably been in studio five six times
Starting point is 01:11:44 probably been on 15 times and I really disagree with his political points trying to get saying that Trump is catering to racist effect will put the actual quote on screen is him yeah here it is I am is appealing to racist voters says former New Mexico governor Gary Johnson I don't want to have anything to do with it Johnson it's embarrassing to me and you got Jeb Bush everybody else saying the same thing embarrassing to say the illegal aliens have a lot of hardcore
Starting point is 01:12:11 criminals amongst them and they're committing crimes and Mexico is dumping its criminals on us that's what Cuba did that's what areas of Eastern Europe it's a fact and again it's this attack on reality so I'll say this yes I'm going to give Donald Trump the benefit of the doubt no because he hasn't backed off and he has lost some money and lost some TV shows over this I don't understand why that's okay money now we don't want to lose this country
Starting point is 01:12:39 and it's good to see an old-fashioned a patriotic Yankee like Donald Trump and a guy like that could unify this country the problem is I don't trust him as far as I could throw him but he's got to be given the benefit of the doubt because he's saying what the other Republicans won't so I'm going to stop attacking Donald Trump I've warned but that said he's better than anything else we see right now so what he's saying has to be supported and defended thank you for listening
Starting point is 01:13:08 it's more important than the man it's the idea but I think he's going to betray us that's what my gut tells me in spite he's never wrong that's so convoluted maybe he's maybe his gut was right this time yeah maybe but like isn't that that wild that's Alex is out that is out but he can't play it now oh he could totally play it now if he's listen to our show he knew it the whole time he can play that he can be like listen I got I got betrayed I got seduced by yeah yeah his
Starting point is 01:13:38 ideas were right but he's not following through on those ideas I told you guys at the beginning my gut told me that he was going to betray us because he's a secret Democrat and all of this shit I legit got the move I got the move Trump is a globalist I legitimately think that he's too far to do that after what was it the middle of January early February where he said I would die for Trump yeah that one's trouble I think he's gone too far he can't play that card
Starting point is 01:14:06 now but do you like that statement is fucked up because he's like I listen to all these videos which should have made him be like whoa this guy's nuts no instead he's like oh he's crazy but I like that crazy all right look I know he's mobbed up I know all this bad shit about him I'm going to stop attacking him I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and body is probably going to betray you can't say I don't trust him as far as I can throw him but I'm going to give
Starting point is 01:14:36 him the benefit of the doubt trust but verify that's not a good idea it's not you shouldn't if you if you don't give it look if you don't trust people don't give him the benefit of the doubt they're usually going to screw you because that's how you get murdered right or you like hey I don't trust you in that car you seem creepy but you did offer me a ride my gut tells me you're going to murder me but I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt it's not necessarily in this case how
Starting point is 01:15:05 you get murdered but it is how you lose your Google ads definitely that so Alex now is at this point where he said a whole bunch of stuff about Trump up till this point now he makes this proclamation and he stops talking about Trump I think that was my prediction from the beginning it's the first debate whenever those guys start dropping out I don't know Trump pulls the super male vitality moves standing in the middle just sitting there you're a prick I hate you you
Starting point is 01:15:39 know like that kind of bullshit right down super male vitality because we're going to get back to it do I need to write it down yeah it's stamped all over my heart you do because we're going to get back to it at the end of this episode in a very weird way is there any other way to get back to super male vitality nope so throughout the rest of this episode that we're going to be going over up until July 21st I believe is where we cut off he doesn't really talk about Trump much at all what
Starting point is 01:16:04 is he talking about that we're going to get into it because it seems like especially at that time whenever Trump was rising through and everybody was shocked by it that's all everybody was talking about well he talks he has an interview with Jerome Corsi at one point which is really boring and Jerome Corsi says maybe he's real this time so there's that they talked about that I didn't pull a clip of that because it's it doesn't matter they're so fucking stupid around the 19th
Starting point is 01:16:30 or 20th somewhere in there was when Trump made the claims about John McCain when he's like I like heroes who don't get captured yep that sort of shit and Alex his response to that is didn't go far enough because Alex believes that as I'll use his quote John McCain was a trustee at the Hanoi Hilton he makes the claim that John McCain was never tortured and in fact was given pleasure women and fancy meals at the Hanoi Hilton what's yeah he says it's mainstream news so what you're
Starting point is 01:17:03 saying what Alex is saying is that the reason John can't raise his arms above his head is he got fucked too hard he blew out his obliques he got fucked so hard he's paralyzed now more that's what we're saying yeah okay I did try and look into that I can't find any verification of that I did find an article on WorldNet daily but it had no sourcing no like references at all I found one article that I don't know if I can trust or not that purported to be from somebody who was captured along
Starting point is 01:17:37 the same time as him and it doesn't say that he wasn't tortured it was just saying that maybe he exaggerated right story yeah kind of a thing and that there were a lot of people who were there and his experience is no more severe than any one of the other and which is the point and I think that even John McCain would own up to that yeah and I think he has he's like hey we were in a fucking torture camp yeah everybody got tortured so that's that's where Alex stands on Trump now
Starting point is 01:18:09 this is fun is immediately after this on the episode he has an interview with Jesse Ventura Ventura comes back and they talk some more bullshit about his case but I've just decided to cut all of that out because in this clip Jesse Ventura talks some fucking hard truth about Trump oh really that is nice and Alex can't really handle oh boy and it starts to give you the indication that now is whenever he's starting to turn Trump into his boy he's starting to feel the need to defend him
Starting point is 01:18:38 but he can't he can't especially not to Jesse Ventura right because Jesse Ventura makes sense so elaborate on where you stand on the Donald Trump situation well first of all you know if Mexicans come up here illegals and get on our welfare system if indeed they do that then blame the people who created a system that allows that to happen which is your Democrats and Republicans wow that's a good plan if they were able to do that and I don't know if they are or not but if they're able to
Starting point is 01:19:10 do that blame the system that allows it to happen instead of blaming the poor person second of all I get irritated because I'm off the grid down there I live 900 miles in Mexico and whenever somebody with the statue of Donald Trump makes a statement like he has believe me we as Americans down there feel the repercussions of that all of a sudden Mexican people stare at us all of a sudden you know a hassle start happening maybe the federalies pull you over more whatever it might be
Starting point is 01:19:46 but it does nobody any good because what Donald Trump is saying does nothing but anger Mexican people because you can't paint them in a broad brush certainly there's criminals in Mexico just like there are criminals here we ought to talk about the fact that we have more people in jail than in the world sure so therefore don't we have the most criminals well Jesse I mean I agree with your point that we shouldn't blame the TSA we should blame our Congress that's not the point
Starting point is 01:20:18 that Jesse that is definitely not the point that he just made Alex can't at all wrestle with with the point that he just made which is completely fucking valid yeah so he's like oh yeah don't blame the TSA that was not no he said don't blame the immigrants who were exploiting the system blame the system yeah try and don't blame poor people for trying to not be poor for fighting for their lives or a less through non violent means so he he Alex interprets that that way of course
Starting point is 01:20:48 and that's his response and then Jesse now here's here's my here's my question to you yeah how are how are we coming down on that because is that Alex understanding the point and then deliberately misleading or is that Alex absolutely incapable of listening to another human being talk for any length of time I think it's the prior you think so yeah you think he fully gets that and then he just can't allow that to be yeah and like well because I mean even Jesse's point
Starting point is 01:21:20 that he made there is like they have criminals there just like we have criminals here we incarcerate the most people in the world so therefore don't we have the most criminals right because you can't argue with if you're Alex so he has to change the argument that's being had right it's a classic debate tactic it's it's I mean it's minorly gaslighting somebody well absolutely but at the same time it's just manipulative and then I'm what's even worse is the idea of
Starting point is 01:21:44 agreeing with somebody on something they didn't say so you can move on I really hate that Jesse doesn't call him out on it because clearly Jesse has the kind of status with Alex that he could do that he doesn't but he makes another great point for doing it and then Congress sits around criticizing the TSA when they shut it up and control it so so I totally agree with you I get your point that said I don't trust Donald Trump because he supported assault weapons bans gave money
Starting point is 01:22:10 to Hillary Clinton but I've actually watched his full speeches and he said they're not sending their good people that have money in many cases that are illegals he says a lot of more criminals fleeing justice then the media said Donald Trump says Mexicans are crooks so I think some of that is the media spinning things to make it worse well that may be true too because you know as we both know the media is in the entertainment business and the more entertainment
Starting point is 01:22:36 spin they can throw on anything sells copy you know look at the trash they give us on TV and make us work on things that are completely irrelevant I agree but just real quick you personally have seen a backlash in the last month and a half from the Trump thing have I well have I personally to me yes no other than people know that I know Donald and they'll ask me and I just say look I don't answer for Donald but I think what he's saying is utterly preposterous and stupid I said
Starting point is 01:23:06 that you know that to state what he states I don't think I do you know to have a president that would say things like that about people of another country you know that's not very good diplomacy in my opinion now I hear your point overall the problem is you and I share the Baja a lot of Mexico has collapsed do you and so that is a larger problem I wish Mexico well but do you Alex so but you hear that like Jesse just made some great points and also another thing
Starting point is 01:23:39 that's really interesting to point out that they don't get into is that Alex is also in the entertainment business I was going to say like there might as well have been like a giant sign directly above Alex Jones saying I'm entertaining like it's this is about you yeah exactly but then his way of getting out of the first thing that Jesse says is to pretend it's the TSA right and then the way of getting out of the second point that he makes is to say you live in a nice area
Starting point is 01:24:04 yeah you're not experiencing the Mexico that Donald is talking about so you wouldn't know most so even though I trust you listen you're wrong on this one but I'm not going to say it like you're wrong I'm just gonna be like hey you wouldn't know yeah so anyway that's almost like I am saying because you don't have that personal experience you perhaps don't understand the entirety of their experience well Jesse can't conceive of the evil of globalists apparently right even
Starting point is 01:24:31 though he's been the governor of a state that globalist governor of the state maybe maybe got kicked out by the globalist but that's like that right there is why we still like Jesse Ventura like he has problems yes he's not always right he clearly was fucking around with that lawsuit stuff yeah he was misleading people but he can come with stuff like that or it's like hey good call man that was pretty much right on yeah you know what I haven't even heard I I don't think I'd
Starting point is 01:24:58 ever ever or I don't I don't think I've ever heard somebody make that very simple logical argument there which is we imprison the most people so we have the most criminals yeah that's your that's your argument if you're worried about criminals you don't want Americans coming to your place no and then it's sort of a secondary aspect of that argument which is always true you don't want Americans coming anywhere and let's say white people let's your friends then
Starting point is 01:25:22 you want our science yes take our scientists the the secondary aspect of that argument too if you really want to go with it is that we have people in prison for bullshit charges so even the definition of what a criminal is is kind of stupid exactly so and the idea the other thing about that is once if that's that's the brand now it's not it's not you committed a crime it's that you're a criminal and you're always a criminal well you're always going to be a criminal and even
Starting point is 01:25:52 if you're even if you're escaping your life where you were a criminal because I don't know one of the Mexican cartels had you and the only way to get out of there was by running away otherwise they were going to murder you yeah you committed a crime so you're always you're never entitled to do your best to not be a criminal once you're a jet you're a jet all the way exactly so this next clip is really weird Alex is kind of mad that people are like these insurers and hospitals are
Starting point is 01:26:20 refusing to treat veterans but they'll treat illegal immigrants oh boy and so he has a weird fucking theory about it that even internally doesn't make sense okay like even the words he's saying if you grant that the beginning of it is true the middle can't hear oh just listen to this oh but if you're illegal you get the surgery or you get to have your baby for free and we're not against these people but why is it free for them and not for the vets who've earned it because the
Starting point is 01:26:52 vets are already here and they're done with you they want new people because we aborted 50 plus million of our kids so we do need new people here so some security doesn't collapse but they're not even doing that they're already rated social security that's true I mean these are facts so so he thinks a fact he thinks a fact is that we're we're paying for illegal immigrants babies to be born in the United States because we've accidentally aborted too many of our own babies right
Starting point is 01:27:31 and so the only way for social security to prop up is by illegal immigrants babies but but we need to kick those babies out but we've also already rated so it's so convoluted it's so insane I don't even know where to like poke it you know it's one of those it's like a weird blob them is like I know I got a well I mean veterans veterans are not treated well no that's a big problem certainly why are you not focused on them why is your why is your anger not why is your anger like just like
Starting point is 01:28:04 the Jesse Ventura thing if like we have the most criminals so let's blame blame the system yeah don't blame the poor people don't blame the illegal immigrant who has to have her baby here because she can't afford it anywhere else blame the system that is keeping the veterans from getting coverage and keeping the veterans from being help might be a good plan why wouldn't you do that I want to take a moment to give Alex some credit because even though he does do it in dumb ways that rely on
Starting point is 01:28:33 globalists and shit he does speak a lot about how veterans aren't treated well and he has a he has a good point there yeah now that's absolutely true now the idea that it's some sort of elaborate plot by evil globalists is stupid it is just but what is it everybody wants the veterans to be taken care of nobody wants to pay for veterans to be taken care of right right and everybody wants health care nobody wants to pay for health care right it's the it's the the budgeting is
Starting point is 01:29:04 so much on the front end as opposed to the back end right it's all we pay for the war but we won't pay to take care of people of course and that's not a globalist plot that's just people in congress being fucking stupid and that's the way every craven that's the way every military is always worked now every standing military really speaking now we want you to fight we don't give a fuck once you're done there Jordan I told you earlier that the show is going to end with a curve
Starting point is 01:29:29 ball is it going to end with a curve ball jade helms started the day before this yes now Alex Jones has a statement he wants to make about jade helms he throws they've been called so they've tripled and quadrupled and quintupled and infinities down with lies and so now as I told you I said when jade helms starts the 15th you are going to see them everywhere say the laughable not Alex has been discredited jade helm was not martial law nothing happened when we never said it was
Starting point is 01:30:01 going to do that it was further conditioning and they will just sit there and assault their audience with fraud now I can't prove what he did or did not say in the past I can't do that because I'm not going back through more episodes than I need to we may do that investigation sometime down the line okay but it would be hard for me to pinpoint when he started talking about jade helm that would be very difficult to get the timeline on but what I can do is tell you
Starting point is 01:30:30 that at the end of this episode he gets a caller from Alabama who we were we're already off to a great start he love random info wars callers from Alabama I'm sure there's a lot of insight coming from there so Alex on this very show has said that people are going to lie and say that jade helm I say that jade helm is somehow real yeah and people taking over right and they're and they're doing that on purpose they're conditioning you to believe that it's never going
Starting point is 01:31:00 to be martial law and then whenever it's not this time they can turn me into the boy who cried wolf and that means that you'll be even more of a sheep the next time that means you'll be ready you'll be primed whenever they're going to do it now one very important thing to keep in mind for those of you who didn't keep up with jade helm conspiracy theories one of the big things that the internet was going wild on is claiming that there were a bunch of walmarts that had been
Starting point is 01:31:25 closed down and there were secret tunnels for military and UN forces to go under that they were going to use them as like depot points because they're giant buildings and they're inconspicuous when they're closed so all of these walmarts and closed down like oh fuck they're using them there's tunnels there so that was a big part of that stuff Alex that's one of those things that if you're a conspiracy theorist seems like a great plan you're like oh that's genius
Starting point is 01:31:51 I know how genius that is but then if you're actually trying to do it logistically you're like this is a dumb fucking plan we have roads I can just use roads I can only come out of inner out of these tunnels at a walmart yeah what why would we do that so now the reason that I bring that up is because walmart will play into this caller and let's see how Alex responds to this caller it's now John in Alabama finish your point you said you were you said you're there in Alabama
Starting point is 01:32:19 outside the air base and there's just troops suddenly with name tags off everywhere yeah that's what's happening that's part of jade helm that is in Alabama they expanded it to Alabama was seven states is now 10 and it's just I mean I see it myself I couldn't reckon get video of it but I was in San Marcos I stayed doing an investigation working on and I saw a black in wrap driving the other side of the road and then I saw homeland security people in blue uniforms walking
Starting point is 01:32:48 out of a gas station when I was getting gas and they knew I was by the way and saw me and kind of like this and got their vehicle into a lot of details for him to be telling the truth on this one also he said that he couldn't get a video of that car on the road without crashing you could have taken a picture of these guys at a gas station they would have been simple Alex you want to just you could have your station area would be no problem homeland security in
Starting point is 01:33:09 blue uniforms is the beginning of any lie right anytime if there's a color involved hmm he's making it up yep well let's see I'm not kidding I mean as soon as I looked over the gas thing and these people are getting their car that was two older guys with you know with short beards they just went well that's Alex Jones we are just overrun with DHS so so tell us what you saw in Walmart. Okay, you know I'm I've always been a top of God my
Starting point is 01:33:38 home business you know until all this stuff started I get it I get it just a regular down what you say and it affects me as an American citizen and you know I was raised on patriotic beliefs to stand for and uphold the Constitution because all the men in my family were in the military and I'm in Walmart the other night down here but it was real close to one o'clock in the morning if it wasn't one o'clock in the morning. Okay fine what'd you say? I'm walking through there
Starting point is 01:34:02 and I see these two guys in black suits and they've got other guys around talking to a Walmart manager. Now hold on two guys in black suits talking to a manager clearly something nefarious. Two guys in black suits I'm thinking it's the men in black. They're calling me biased but when I see the black black suits coming I nod my head. Black suits coming nod your head. That's the theme for men in black too. I know all right and I won't pass and you know people can tell me I'm
Starting point is 01:34:30 crazy with crap whatever like I try to take a picture except myself. They had UN badges on their lapels. The little globe with the leaves the same thing on their flag was on their lapels. They had ID badges to Fort Rooker. UN personnel like they are here in America man. They don't they don't want anybody to know. As soon as I tried to take a picture of the guy I was tackled to the ground by what I'm assuming is his bodyguards arrested by the city police and my phone was taken
Starting point is 01:34:56 and they still haven't got back. All right yeah okay if this is true and I believe you look out we're gonna jump on an airplane right now. I want you to put your own hold. I want you to scan whatever email the arrest the the the the the paperwork and we will send reporters up there because you know that is just outrageous and sir there are UN troops all over the place. They have Russian troops and I heard about this years before it was confirmed training to take on
Starting point is 01:35:27 domestic groups. It's all part of secret treaties and the treaties are breaking up right now but yes they have Russian troops training at secret bases in Denver and Colorado Springs. Space even came out and they admitted secrets on domestic groups. So it's a global government. It's State Department of Random 7277 freedom from war. So I looked that up. I read what wait here's the bigger question. How does he know the the secret treaties right which that are
Starting point is 01:35:59 breaking up. That's that's my favorite. The secret treaties you know the secret treaties course they're in the white paper. How does he know they're breaking up. That's in the white papers too. But why would they be breaking up if everything's still going fine. I don't know. It's so stupid how what why throw that little bit the secret treaties which are breaking up. You could have just said the secret treaties that you've been fine. So you've already made up enough lies
Starting point is 01:36:22 Alex. Yeah. You don't need to further compound it. Take a break. So I I looked up the the memorandum that he was talking about the freedom from war State Department memorandum 7777 7479 or it's it was written in September of 1961 and it is the freedom for war. The United States program for general and complete disarmament for a peaceful world. So it's mostly in concern about the rapid growth of post nuclear weapons. Yeah. And the insanely rapid growth. So they want whoever
Starting point is 01:37:03 wrote this the people who were behind this memorandum by the way memorandum not a not a law. No binding agenda 217727. You know what memorandum shortens to memo. Yeah. It's a note. It's a little note. It's a note. Yeah. It's not binding 7277. So this is basically aspiring towards disarmament. Right. And it is if you're crazy it looks bad because it does talk about how the end goal is getting rid of armies in every country because it isn't that the end goal. I think it is.
Starting point is 01:37:36 Shouldn't that be the end goal. I think it is. If don't we want to become a type one civilization. It would be nice. Wouldn't that be better for everybody. But the primary piece of it is nuclear disarmament. Right. It's talking about these technologies that are completely capable of destroying the entire world setting us off on a trajectory that we don't even know what it would lead to. That's the first step of it and then eventually gradual disarmament of armies and creating
Starting point is 01:38:04 peacekeeping organizations that you know will be involved with mitigating crises and conflicts between states could be hashed out as opposed to war. Right. It's idealistic as fuck. Of course. But the one thing that's really important about it is it doesn't talk about UN forces hanging out Russian secret training or anything like that. And further that in secret memo twenty seventy two seventy seven. The first part of it is not achieved. You know what I'm saying. A lot of people
Starting point is 01:38:36 still have nukes. So like even you could almost say too many nukes. The beginning pieces of it haven't been successfully implemented. It's like his fear of that clowered in Piven plan that he brings up over and over again. It's like that wasn't implemented. You someone wrote about it. Some professor wrote that like oh hey if we overwhelmed the welfare system people would have to take it more seriously. It's it's fiction. Yeah. It's like it's like he's it's like he's saying you know
Starting point is 01:39:04 all this Huxley. He's the one who knew that's what we're living in now. I think he would say that. I think he would say that too. Yeah. Yeah. But that's that's the point. It's all it's all speculative fiction. That's the issue that he just can't discern what is like. Do you ever stop and think like oh we created all of the weapons necessary to kill all of us and we just have them lying around and we have for a long time getting old. Yeah. Like there was there's still there's still
Starting point is 01:39:36 nuclear weapons systems that use floppy disks. Yep. And we're just fine with that. We're just like yeah this is great. I'm sure I'm sure that'll never be a problem. Absolutely. It's insane. Yeah. How and the idea that you wouldn't be on board with just a vague just like hey maybe let's try and get to a point where we're not always on the edge of global destruction. I'd need to study this memorandum a little closer in order to have like an assessment on it but just from my my read of it
Starting point is 01:40:10 my once through reading I would say it is a great goal but it is way too idealistic to work in reality. But yeah I don't or in the near future in a general sense taking the memorandum out of it. Yeah. Yeah absolutely. Why wouldn't you want war to stop. What vested interest other than making money do people have in war continuing population control. Oh there you go. Yeah dominance. So anyway good cultures versus bad cultures Dan National. We don't we don't start wars for any other reason
Starting point is 01:40:45 than to make their culture better nationalism prosperity. Yeah that's what it's about. Second Amendment. So second amendment. So I have a property. Alex puts him on hold and then he has an interview that's really boring with Jerome Corsi. Then we do we get him back. Also also whenever he was like take to scan the paperwork I was like oh we're not going to hear from this fellow again. I'm going to confirm that at least as of July 22nd this has not come back up. No and I
Starting point is 01:41:16 guarantee it doesn't ever. Yeah. But he does come back after the Jerome Corsi interview and shit gets real. Now John and Alabama thank you for holding. If folks just joined us. What are you doing living Alabama outside an air base and you're in there at Walmart at one in the morning a few days ago and they grab you take you to jail but don't charge you and say come back later. I've seen that with demonstrators before and you were there and there were guys with UN name
Starting point is 01:41:43 tags with a guy in a black uniform and they tackled you and the police came and took you to jail. It's not necessarily amazing. And if this is true and it isn't it's incredible. What else can you tell us about this. What are the police Sadie and the squad car was anything else said to you. Well Alex I don't know about how censorship is on your shows I'm pretty sure I can't quote him verbatim but in a nutshell they told me that I asked up but I want to get picture happy
Starting point is 01:42:13 with my iPhone and you know I told him I was just I mean I could be wrong but I just I told him I was exercising my first amendment right freedom of speech freedom of press freedom of assembly and they didn't care like my iPhone is probably no more but wait they didn't even give you your iPhone. They didn't give you your phone back. No no when when I left the city jail they told me that I could pick my iPhone up when I picked my paperwork up and you know I'm like you
Starting point is 01:42:44 should go before you went to break earlier. I've been arrested a few times. I know the ends out. So you're supposed to be formally charged. You're supposed to get paperwork as soon as you get kicked loose whether it's you have to pay to get out or you get a reconnaissance bond a property bond what have you and they give you your property back. Well sir here's the deal. I would call the local media and I would say troops stole my iPhone at the Walmart. They won't give it back.
Starting point is 01:43:09 That's a news story and if they won't cover it will come up there and I'll go in there with a video camera to the police department and say give him his iPhone back and let them try to arrest me. That's fine if they do but I believe you. I've had similar things happen to me. This is incredible. Describe these UN troops for us. How are they dressed? What the uniforms look like? Where were they in the Walmart? Break it down for us. Okay. Um the the men that I saw in the Walmart
Starting point is 01:43:34 uh the the gentlemen that I'm presuming are bodyguards because they're the ones that pulled I'm what I'm assuming is Glock 17s because that's standard issue sidearm. They pulled firearms on you. I really don't know. Yes. Yes. They drew down on me in Walmart while there was there was a total of six. Four of them drew down on me and covered me while two of them took me to the ground. Well, that's impressive and it armed armed troops pulled a gun on you. Armed in plain clothes
Starting point is 01:43:59 and I'm assuming that they were protecting the two men in the suits with the badges on their lapel and like I didn't mean them any harm. You know, I mean, I understand it was some type of diplomats or something that think they're God. Yeah. Uh so what happened next? Or they're just under threat. Uh by raiding hillbillies at one in the morning. No resistance at all because I'm we're almost out of time. What else happened? What else happened? Okay. Uh well, uh you
Starting point is 01:44:22 know, they detained me and held me on the ground. One of them had a knee in my back holding both my hands behind my back and I let it go on and then the city police arrived and they carted me off to jail and you know, a couple hours later on what they said was they were cognizant. You know, I in good faith, I'll show you brother. Here's the deal. I'm going to send a reporter up there. I believe you. We need to go back to Walmart. Recreate it. We need to go to the police
Starting point is 01:44:45 department. This is huge. Armed UN forces tackling and then robbing a citizen's iPhone and taking him to jail. This is not the behavior of someone who doesn't believe Jade Helm is real. Yeah. This is the behavior of someone who's looking for a way to believe it's real but knowing without concrete evidence, he's going to be made fun of. Yeah. So he gets this hillbilly collar on the air. Right. It's clearly lying to him. Just beautifully lying. Here's what I would say. Something
Starting point is 01:45:14 is missing from that. Especially because the number of people involved keep going up. Does change a little. I saw two guys in black suits talking to the man. Oh, there were bodyguards. He had a bodyguard. He had a bodyguard. Then it became he had bodyguards. Yeah. Then they pulled Glock 17. First they took his phone. Then they tackled him. Then they pulled guns on him. Yeah. It's so it's nonsense. I believe also the fact that he, the fact that he just casually references Glock
Starting point is 01:45:39 17's is like, no, I don't, I don't like that at all. Very specific. I don't like that at all. I am not saying that he's making something up out of whole cloth, but there's some element of the story that's missing. Maybe he was high. Well, police did also tell him that he couldn't bring that brown bag inside the Walmart. Why the fuck would you be at a Walmart at one in the morning if you're not high also? I don't know any reason to go. He ran out of socks. He ran out of
Starting point is 01:46:05 socks. He smoked them all. Have you? All right. All right. You're unfairly drawing a Alabama hillbillies in a broad brush and I'll say boy, howdy, the boys down now in Alabama. That's too by you. I don't like that. That's way too by it's tougher. It's tough for me to slide right into the south or Midwest. Anyway, that's slide right into my DMs. That's it for the 16th of the show. Alex invalidates his own claim that he's not buying into Jade Helm by buying in real hard for a
Starting point is 01:46:35 random caller. He has been schooled by Jesse Ventura, but he's also teased his heel turn about Trump. Yes. It's very clear that it's only a matter of time now after July 16th, right until he inevitably does get in. And is it just the bigotry? Sure seems like it kind of does at this point. It seems like really all he's interested in is the fact that Trump says we should hate immigrants. Yeah. That's basically all he's pretty much. Yeah. So I was going to cut it off at the 16th for this
Starting point is 01:47:05 episode, right? But we have to talk about the 17th. Okay, what happened on the 17th? The 17th is one of my favorite Alex Jones episodes I've ever listened to. And I will. I'm just going to play the beginning of the show and you'll see why. Well, I'm going to jump the shark intentionally at the start of the next segment. So call your friends and family. What is that to tune into the broadcast? We start the next segment in exactly seven minutes, 12 seconds from now.
Starting point is 01:47:36 So start the countdown. Get ready. Because seven minutes and we are going to be breaking down some information that may actually shake a large portions of the population out of their mind control. Is that what jumping the shark is? I guess so what is jumping the shark? What does he think it means he uses fortune favors the bold. He doesn't know what it means. He doesn't understand aphorisms. He really doesn't. Unfortunately, he does literally jump the shark. Okay. This episode is
Starting point is 01:48:16 embarrassing. Okay. So I don't want to spoil for you what the actual jumping of the shark is. I don't understand again, what it is we're talking about, but I'm excited to find out. I don't know if it's gonna work better if I just spell it out up top. No, I want to hear it. I want to hear it cold. Okay, so I have split up the actual shark jump into three parts. Preparation No, it's six. The buying of water skis motorcycle. Definitely got to get a motorcycle there. Yeah. Oh, that's right. It is
Starting point is 01:48:54 the it is water skis. I'm sorry. Yeah, I forgot. It's a it's what was it happy days. Yeah, but he also jumped something on a motorcycle at some point. They got very into the jumping of things. There are six parts to this shark jump. Each one of them is held up by a complete bullshit lie. All right. One of his tent posts, one of his waypoint stories that he's been telling, we haven't really dealt with a lot of the 2015 tent posts through the waypoints. So we get to take care of like all
Starting point is 01:49:29 of them in one fell swoop during this shark jumping of the shark. It's amazing. Okay, so here we go. We're going to start it off with the first clip. This is seven minutes and a couple seconds after the last one. Terrorists are being used to take our freedoms. Agreed. The Patriot Act is used 99 plus percent of the time against non terror related cases to overturn the Bill of Rights and Constitution. Perfect. Stop there. Now that's political
Starting point is 01:49:57 correctness. All things done. Anything is hurtful to anyone. They're saying it's banned. That's totalitarianism. So what we need is some strong medicine to force the logical point to force the debate to have the controlled trader media attack us for making this point and then to have the American public have a logical discussion. Now they will take what I'm about to say out of context. This is a big announcement. How is that an announcement? But it's not done satirically.
Starting point is 01:50:33 It's done at a level of logical discussion. If we're going to ban paper bags that are brown in Seattle government because someone might be hurt that they're brown bags. No one ever said brown bags. Anything to do with racism. They just say it that they can ban or restrict. So that's the first way point is that they're outlawing brown bags in Seattle. They're not. This is based on a memo that a Seattle the Elliott Bronstein the chief spokesman for the Seattle Office of Civil Rights
Starting point is 01:51:03 advised the city's public information officers to avoid the phrase brown bag and use terms like sack lunch or lunch and learn according to a memo which is being widely misreported as an order or a ban. Now the reason that he did this was okay. I'm just going to read his quote. I assume it has something to do with alcohol. No. Oh the this issue came up in one of the departments and I thought I'd send it around as an FYI for your consideration. The memo reads we often use
Starting point is 01:51:31 the expression brown bag to designate a bring your own lunchtime event. We also use the word citizens as a synonym for residents innocuous phrases. Right. It went on. Not so much for some people the phrase brown bag calls up ugly associations with the use of the expression brown bag to determine if people's skin color was light enough to allow admission to an event or a home. Citizens is a different case. We sometimes use it as another way of saying members of the
Starting point is 01:51:59 public except for all the members of the public who aren't actually citizens who live and work here. It's basically a fucking the chief spokesman for the Office of Civil Rights issued a memo to city employees that asked them to be more sensitive. Yeah. Because there is a history of it. I've looked into it. There is that's not made up. No of course the idea of passing you any any anything that any reference to racism in American history even if I have no context for it I'll be
Starting point is 01:52:26 like yeah that's probably true. I think that this is probably stretching a little bit in terms of the descriptors of this bag is brown. Yeah. It's not but at the same time. It's just he's just saying you know like the language language is important. Be specific with your words. Yeah. That's all that's all he's saying. A lot of the times just be more specific. Sack lunch is no more difficult to say. It's no less descriptive. No. So I mean it's not a ban. It was him being
Starting point is 01:52:57 like hey try and do this. Yep. But at this point the shark jump has been described. Also the the plan that he has right is so mind bogglingly stupid and we don't even know what exactly it is yet. But his plan is going to say what he's what he's outlined. His his idea of how this is going to work is he's going to say something intentionally fucked up. Yeah. So that the media will report on it. Yeah. But even even though they even though it's intentionally fucked up they're
Starting point is 01:53:33 going to take him out of context right which boggles the mind even further. Well here's what he's trying to do and then that will force everyone to come together and have a conversation about how stupid the fucked up thing he said was. More or less what he's trying to play the Mark Dice game on a pro level. Yeah. But what he doesn't realize is the Mark Dice game only works because it's a closed loop. You don't have any rogue actors in there like the actual media.
Starting point is 01:54:01 So like the media is not going to play along with this the way you play along with Mark Dice's reporting and create your circle of propaganda. They are going to take it on its face. They're going to deal with what you say and be like holy shit and we'll get to it and even then they could just go back and listen to the first part where he said this is what we're going to do. Yeah. Yeah. That is a problem too. If you're trying to trick people don't tell people you're
Starting point is 01:54:28 tricking them. Yeah. Yeah. That is a problem. Alex is dumb though and it's so fucking hilarious for him. Although then again that is Jerome Corsi's plan. Yeah. Yeah totally fair enough. It's what they do. Yeah. Okay. This time we're actually going to do propaganda. Yeah. Jerome Corsi buddy. Maybe you're way past that. I'm going to be paying thousands of dollars for people to soy bomb CNN. Yeah. Dude. No. All right. Not a propaganda campaign. So campaign he goes
Starting point is 01:54:58 on and like I said I didn't cut anything out. These are just segmented. I took a break pretty much whenever he got to one of his lies. Seattle Brown bag shit is a complete misrepresentation and a lie as we come to expect from Alex. Here's the next one. If we're going to tell kids nationwide and public schools under no child left behind your purple penguins. You can't be a boy or a girl. It might hurt someone that doesn't identify as a boy or a girl. If you can't have your identity because
Starting point is 01:55:24 it might hurt someone else. That is the greatest form of oppression. Psychologically I could imagine. So he's this is another one of his big way points but can't you just can't you just for one second turn that around. Like hey if you can't have your identity because it hurts somebody else like Alex. Yeah. Like maybe think about think about how your identity has hurt somebody else a lot or maybe somebody else can't have their identity because you don't want to feel bad. You're on
Starting point is 01:56:01 a real interesting tip that Alex is not interested in. You cannot you cannot grapple with how is it that you just can't grapple with the turn it the other way. Right. It's not even it's not even hard. It's super easy. Like if I feel one way and I don't like that. What if somebody else who isn't me feels that way. It's like if you see the letter A right here. Yeah. It's like that's the letter A and then it moves a little bit over there. Like what the fuck is that. Yeah exactly.
Starting point is 01:56:30 It's how do you not just take that little step. Yeah. So would you like to learn about this way point. Sure. Alex has been saying for a really long time. I don't think I've played on the show that nationally in schools they're telling kids they can't be boys or girls anymore. They have to be purple penguins. Yes. That'd be fun. And this is because saying boys and girls are hurtful to trans identifying students which doesn't make any sense. He's stupid. But here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:56:57 If you look into it this is based on a story out of Lincoln Nebraska specifically and there were some materials that were provided to teachers by a group called the gender spectrum which is an organization whose website states a goal of fostering quote gender sensitive and inclusive environment for all children and teens. So inside their materials it has this I'll just read this quote don't use phrases such as boys and girls you guys ladies and gentlemen and similarly gendered
Starting point is 01:57:26 expressions to get kids attention instructs a training document given to middle school teachers at the Lincoln public schools create a classroom create classroom names and then ask all the purple penguins to meet on the rug. The document also warns against asking students to line up as boys and girls and suggests asking them to line up whether they prefer skateboards or bikes milk or juice dogs or cats summer or winter talking or listening. Oh do you mean by who you are as
Starting point is 01:57:53 a person as opposed to what you have between your legs. Yeah it goes on to say ask yourself always ask yourself will this configuration create a gendered space. The document asks I think that's actually a very smart thing. Yeah that sounds really dumb. What do you mean. I just mean that it's it has the ring of like like even well everything that has to do with kids is dumb right to adults but that's that no I mean I mean that's that angle like I immediately have that knee jerk
Starting point is 01:58:23 reaction of like dudes you're going overboard with this. Let's just but that makes perfect sense in though in just in a form of education. Yeah just like that idea of we're not immediately putting you into your blue and your pink. Yeah you're given your choice. Yeah you're like oh I am not a boy or a girl. I am somebody who enjoys this. I am a person first. Yeah with my own thoughts and feelings and I'm not I'm not whatever you tell me I am and I'm allowed to choose
Starting point is 01:58:54 and grow in the way that I want to make sense and the I like it the arbitrary specific of purple penguins in that read out in that. Yeah that's just little group names. Yeah just create you know teams within the classroom and give them names. Yeah why not. That's like getting mad at legends of the hidden temple. Oh silver monkeys. Yeah exactly very very unhappy. Also the shrine of the silver monkey or that one we had to put the three pieces of the monkey together. No one
Starting point is 01:59:19 could ever fucking do it. Yeah I remember I screamed at the TV about that when I was a kid and then someone made a group about it on Facebook like years and years ago. I'm like you fucking asshole. Now I can't complain about it. Now it's hacky for me to remember that it made me mad. Like God damn it. Do you know it's even worse. You can't complain about it also because one of the reasons that it was so hard for them was because they were shooting for like 12 or 14
Starting point is 01:59:45 hours straight. Oh another reason is most of them weren't tall enough to put the head. Yeah so there were many issues with legend the hidden temple. So you know people got mad about this and by people I mean Alex. Yeah but there's there's more. So Brenda Legario the Lincoln public schools coordinator for social workers and counselors clarified to the Lincoln Journal star after the issue gained widespread attention. The materials were provided as guidelines for educators to
Starting point is 02:00:12 better understand gender identity issues and we're not intended to impose rules mandating how those issues should be addressed. Quote the handouts provided by a staff member on a district equity team were meant only for teachers not for students or parents she said. Of course and they were not meant as rules staff had to follow but as suggestions for how teachers can make students feel comfortable. It also stresses the impact words can have on others. If there's a
Starting point is 02:00:36 staff member that's uninformed and unsupportive that can be a pretty scary that can be pretty scary for a family maybe struggling to understand transgender issues themselves. So that just sounds like a really good progressive school district quite frankly. Do you know what it always brings me back to almost all of this almost all of this always winds up boiling down into be thoughtful. Right. One of the Alex hates them. I'm a huge I like I read I read the Dow
Starting point is 02:01:06 like 10 million times when I was growing up and just one of those very simple things was always be mindful be thoughtful with your actions. Yeah. Think before you just randomly or or you know just like think about how does this make somebody else feel first instead of I want to do it so I'm going to it's a great idea. I mean it never happens. No no so to make matters worse for Alex's narrative the Lincoln public school superintendent Steve Joel pushed back against
Starting point is 02:01:36 what he said was a misinformed reaction to the district's gender identity training by national commentators and news outlets. Right. Quote it's indeed regrettable for the last week and a half we've had to dedicate as much staff time and resources to address an issue an issue that is not founded in fact never once has anyone inside our school mandated that a teacher take the words boys or girls or ladies and gentlemen out of their interactions with children or
Starting point is 02:02:00 interaction with adults. Of course. This was about adults professional educators who care deeply about trying to reach and establish relationships with children. They are looking at strategies about how to be more effective in the classroom. Right. So fuck you Alex you're a liar. Get mad about real shit. Why do we always have to. Why do they have to make things up to be angry about. But bro that's what I'm talking about. That's why this is jumping the shark. He's accidentally doing
Starting point is 02:02:28 what he's parodying. Yeah that's true. He thinks he's doing it satirically but he's just he's going overboard on his narratives in one chunk. So this next clip he actually jumps the shark. Okay. He does the jump that he had prepared. Okay. Crazy. And then it ends this clip ends with another lie. That's the wildest cult programming that I could ever even envision in my mind. Really. Period. There's way better cult programming. So to assault these people we have to point out
Starting point is 02:03:00 that what they're doing is unconstitutional. It's tyrannical. It's totalitarian. It's oppressive. It's cultic but also it can't be selectively enforced. It can't be discriminatory. And so our okay. If we have radical Muslims being brought in by the hundreds of thousands a year that doesn't everywhere from. Turkey Saudi Arabia Kuwait. Name two more countries areas of northeastern Africa like
Starting point is 02:03:35 Somalia one who are then constantly getting caught trying to carry out attacks or who are carrying out attacks against soft targets. Well if it's hurtful to people they're doing that and if we blame all white people for the shooter in Charleston the deranged shooter and if we blame the Confederate battle flag for that then I'm calling for all Muslim symbols to be removed and I'm calling for all mosque in the United States to be shut down and I'm calling for all self identifying
Starting point is 02:04:08 Muslims of any type to be deported to their original country of origin even if it was if they've been here 200 years I want all Muslims deported now and I want all Muslims to have their mosque shut down and their minarets removed and their symbols removed and anyone wearing a crescent moon around their neck I want them arrested because we've got police showed up at swap meets you know saying they're there to arrest people selling rebel flags total tyranny hardcore oppression so we'll
Starting point is 02:04:45 get back well then let's see it we'll get back to that rebel flag thing in a minute of course well I didn't I didn't think he was going to let the rebel flag go the moment the rebel flag no I meant I'm going to get back to it but so just to sort of dispense with why that argument is really stupid we've got a lot of people that are that's that's the dumbest argument well but just to lay out is that to lay it out because he thinks he's being logical right and he's not there's there's a really
Starting point is 02:05:11 foundational problem with the way he's presenting this and that is in order for his argument to make sense then the Confederacy or worship of the Confederate flag would have to be a federally protected group it would have to be a religion in a in a lot of ways that basically is but in order for him to make this argument logically sound he actually it does work it's just all his premises are wrong like it works as a logical like okay yeah I mean it's you're dumb but like it
Starting point is 02:05:47 does strictly work I don't understand how you think it works well because well it doesn't because it doesn't have to be true for it to actually work logically no he's saying he's saying if Muslims attacking people hurt someone and if the American or the Confederate flag being hung hurt someone we take down symbols of the Confederate flag when a Confederate person or someone inspired by the Confederate flag hurts people therefore we should take down all symbols
Starting point is 02:06:17 of Muslim people when a person inspired by Islam attacks somebody it actually does work strictly speaking in terms of A than B B than C C than D I it's stupid but it doesn't it doesn't matter I mean is is that is that why okay yeah I see where you're coming from you're right it is just that the premises are so yeah so stupid well and the premises don't they don't it's the difference they're not they're not a one to one premise though no it's the
Starting point is 02:06:49 difference between valid and sound when you're talking about logic you can have a valid argument that's not sound right because it's made up right you in order to have sound arguments you need to have true premises that lead to a conclusion it needs to be in the proper form and things have to be true you can have a valid argument that's not sound if you just have bullshit and there you can just have lies but as long as it's set up right you right right I get what you're saying truth
Starting point is 02:07:15 can't lead to falsity falsity can lead to truth I got you so what you're saying so the thing is like I said the really big thing is that in order for you to make this argument and make it work you have to put in something that makes the Confederacy a which is a rogue failed insurgency basically it that has to be exactly the same as a religion and if you want to make that argument Alex you can but then you have to say a whole bunch of other shit yeah it implies a bunch of
Starting point is 02:07:50 stuff that I don't think he realizes he's implying that would be an interesting I mean because it for for a lot of people it does function as something of a religion or even the idea well I mean the idea that the south will rise again very much has those religious overtones will rise exactly like and then the fervency of the belief in the flag itself right and you know it's very much a it is a worship we worship the past like sure could you see Confederacy becoming
Starting point is 02:08:25 a religion a federally federally protected religion no the people who believe that we should have the Confederate flag hanging should have to agree to go to church together no and worship that flag no I don't think so but also like see this is this is the thing that I find the most interesting about people trying to use logic who don't know anything about logic in whenever you whenever you make arguments like the one Alex is making you have a bunch of they're not really even
Starting point is 02:08:54 assumptions but they're implied premises that you don't really even realize are in there and when you make your argument you're actually saying a ton more than you're actually like getting to right and that is one of them and the other thing is like you like I said things have to be true people weren't calling Dan Dan you sweet naive child I'm just saying and you're such a beauty to see your wide-eyed optimism yeah saying that things have to be true well to be sound like I
Starting point is 02:09:27 said yeah to be sound so the other thing that he's not taking into consideration is that people weren't saying we should ban the Confederate flag there were just a bunch of businesses that got pressure from people who didn't want them to sell it and they replied to to the free market they made a decision based on what their consumers were saying places like Walmart stopped selling the flag free market yeah so Alex should be thrilled with that well yeah but they're not bringing
Starting point is 02:09:51 prosperity back they're bringing free market but it's not prosperity so secondarily we all know prosperity it's about that battle flag secondarily the people wanted the Confederate flag taken out of state buildings because of course that shouldn't be in it should not be in government buildings yeah so that's such a weird so those were the real like that's like if North Vietnam was hanging United States flag so here's the other thing if he wants to make the argument based on
Starting point is 02:10:19 reality which I think might be a better argument to make because I I agree with him if you were making this argument right which is well actually I wouldn't agree with him if he was using terrorism as one of the foundational premises but be good as it may if he's saying people in reality are trying to ban the Confederate flag being flown in government buildings right and they're doing that because it hurts people some people are offended by Islam whether or not that's
Starting point is 02:10:46 rational is another question so the Islamic flags should not be flown in our government state buildings well yeah but they shouldn't be right so we either should the Confederate right but if he's making that argument yeah then cool right but he's saying on their own property right he's going so far but I know doing it satirically well I understand that he's doing it satirically right I understand that I understand that he's not literally calling for these
Starting point is 02:11:13 things but the the the form he's using is so flawed yeah like he just it drives me up a fucking wall yeah I I could spend half an hour yeah all the bullshit yeah so that he ends that though with the the your your being a pedant is really what's going on I am I am flashing into the part of myself that should have been a professor yeah yeah exactly so I looked into the idea that people were storming swap meets and trying to get the Confederate flag taken down yeah arresting
Starting point is 02:11:50 people for selling Confederate flags that you can't do that so I looked at I looked it up and I accidentally googled Confederate flag arrests and what I found was a couple of bad stories one is I'll just read you this headline tell you a little bit about it somebody just arrested a Confederate flag but the but the just put it in cuffs they waived the Confederate flag and a shotgun at a black child's party now they're headed to prison on terrorism charges yeah so
Starting point is 02:12:21 that's one story I found another one a man bombed Walmart because it stopped selling Confederate flag in Mississippi another one yeah I know what you're saying it seems bad but was anybody arrested for selling the Confederate flag I did find one story about police and a swap market or a swap meat a shopper perusing the merchandise at a Redwood County flea market was so offended by a vendor selling Confederate and Nazi historical memorabilia the person actually called 911
Starting point is 02:12:55 Wallingsford Connecticut police were dispatched to the flea market to investigate the police chief William Wright tells News 8 the reason no one was arrested was because the items were being sold on private property not to mention not to mention no laws of course no laws were broken of course there was a table set up with this material Wright says according to the journal record it's not criminally illegal but obviously it offended this person it causes some people a sense of being
Starting point is 02:13:22 uncomfortable certainly the owner could preclude this merchandise he said he could if you wanted to if you and the owner yeah it's a choice do that yeah the town resident who called 911 said that there were helmets with swastikas images of Hitler and other historical Nazi items quote I was shaking almost vomiting he tells the paper I had to run my good my grand not turn on the history channel my grandmother had numbers he said referring to the digits Nazis would tattoo on
Starting point is 02:13:48 their prisoners oh shit the caller complained that the Confederate items were quote not authentic and replicas of flags and weapons he said the seller told him he was quote selling so much he can't keep it in stock so basically what happened this has to be the story he's talking about it's from around the same time it's a flea market it's police coming in I couldn't find any other stories nobody got arrested for selling the flag right he's just completely making that part
Starting point is 02:14:12 up out of whole cloth it's absolutely absurd well I think his argument would be that liberal snowflakes want people arrested for selling the Confederate flag you know those liberal snowflakes who survived the Holocaust or the family did yeah maybe I don't even know if you want that guy arrested I don't the calling the police part is a little strange I get where he's coming from right it's a look I don't know I'm also I liked the fact that at the end he was like and the
Starting point is 02:14:42 shit wasn't even real well that's just getting that's just getting a nice little job I know that's that's some good stuff right there yeah so he's a big fan of this dude Alex is not done with his shark jumping rant he has a couple more things he wants to bring in here's one of them and again I didn't cut anything out just segments let's see of the control left won't just edit what I just said and we'll take it in context because the truth is most Muslims aren't radicals most Muslims aren't
Starting point is 02:15:10 terrorist the truth is that in general the people coming to this country just want to work and be successful and are fleeing the oppression of radical Islam you should stop there I know a lot of Muslims I went to school a lot of Muslims I don't support blaming all Muslims for what just happened but you know what there been a lot of Muslim groups allied with the left who are calling to remove the Confederate flag and who are getting into this whole anti Anglo Saxon anti
Starting point is 02:15:40 white garbage so it's time for people and anyone else that doesn't want to be oppressed to say I'm not going to be blamed for what somebody else does but if you want to play by that game we know statistically over 95% of terrorism in the world is carried out by Islamic extremist the rest by criminal groups who want ransoms that's not even close to true not even close to true just to give you a little bit of an idea so in the United States for example 94% of terrorist attacks carried
Starting point is 02:16:20 out the United States between the years of 1980 to 2005 were done by non Muslims know a lot of them were environmental groups a lot of them were animal rights groups right a lot of them do because you know if you do a little arson that counts as a terror get a little arson get a little arson out so Alex likes to talk about Europe if you do a little arson he talks about how like all these attacks are being carried out in Europe or this not so there have been a thousand terrorist
Starting point is 02:16:49 attacks in Europe in the last five years when this article was written and less than 2% were carried out throughout the entirety of Europe by Muslims of course so I mean if you want to go worldwide and say like you know Muslims fighting off our shit and other countries are acts of terrorism see that you get into real murky territory that's the thing one of the big problems with terrorism is that people use it as a stop catch all right when terrorism is very specific it is a group
Starting point is 02:17:26 of people or a person doing a relatively small thing with a big footprint in order to influence government policy yeah that's what it is so that and and the thing is the Charleston shooting was not terrorism it wasn't it was a dude who wanted to cause a race war there's political implications to it but yeah absolutely but it wasn't trying to influence the government into doing that is trying to influence white people it's this weird disconnect between
Starting point is 02:18:00 like there is that political terrorism but then there is just also trying to strike fear into everybody there's definitely that so I don't know I think I but that's an execution I agree with your point look it's silly I think it to include in your in your because Alex doesn't care about things like yeah why are we even pretending well Alex only really cares about things that are being done against the West right so if we include United States and Europe into
Starting point is 02:18:34 that the attacks that are done by Muslims are infinitesimal less than 6% in the United States less than 2% in Europe and then if you want to talk about what is actually terrorism in the rest of the world now does Alex care if they do stuff to each other do we have any Australian terrorists I don't know there was that one guy you know I'm talking about he had a knife he did have a knife wasn't the knife I didn't have a knife was Paul Hogan well the crocodile hunter did strike
Starting point is 02:19:13 fear in the hearts of crocodiles there's no doubt about that so I mean look I don't know it's it's a it's a really complicated issue to discuss but I I know Alex's statistics are wrong yeah I know that whatever it whatever it is he says that's lies we we are trying to make sense of so he's saying that 90% of the world's terrorism is all Muslims which is banana and the rest of it is just people looking to get ransoms and stuff like that's like kidnappings in Brazil and
Starting point is 02:19:39 shit but then you have to say that even if you are saying that you're not taking into account all those environmental and animal rights groups right that are burning shit down which he should be happy to pile on with sure this is like that cat sanctuary yeah just come on and throw him on there why not it's Muslims and Muslim sympathizers which as we know our big fans of the environment yeah and animals yep they love them yep so he's saying that they're all evil
Starting point is 02:20:03 he's saying that that's all of what terrorism is but some people will try and make a caveat they'll point towards Oklahoma City that's come out mainstream news was as funny as $3 bill totally shut up Southern Prairie Law Center running the white supremacist compound it's not true all right dude has not come out in mainstream news I did find an article in World News Daily that had no sourcing about this there is World News Daily you've basically another yeah is it
Starting point is 02:20:31 yeah it's just it's a blog though it doesn't have a cool angry Texan doing a radio show with it so got to get more popular man it's where Jerome Corsi used to work before he defected to Info War Jesus Christ so so it's got great credibility totally yeah it's like zero hedge you know it's in that it's in that world okay so I don't know what zero hedges it's another it's like World News Daily okay so I found an article about it on there that had no evidence and no links
Starting point is 02:21:00 to anything else of course there was a claim of a secret FBI memo but it didn't link to that it didn't have any secret well but it was apparently leaked or whatever it didn't have it didn't have a link to it it didn't show a copy of it it just claimed that it existed the only thing I was able to find was apparently the the place the white supremacist group that Timothy McVeigh was involved with was called Elohim City and apparently the Southern Prairie Law Center
Starting point is 02:21:26 did have a mole inside really yeah they had infiltrated the group and that's how they got a lot of information about the group so that part is kind of true and in as much as they had someone who was doing research now there's no reason to believe that this person in any way influenced Timothy McVeigh right do things that he was already prone to do based on statements he'd been making for the last 10 goddamn years before that right there's also no reason to believe that this this mole
Starting point is 02:21:55 within Elohim City would have had any foreknowledge of Timothy McVeigh's plan because even if you have a white supremacist group there's no indication that you'd just be like at an open meeting being like I'm going to blow up the mirror building you know that seems kind of clunky you can't assume that guys I'm a totally cool white supremacist you guys like blowing shit up I like blowing shit up when are we going to plan to blow shit up let me tell you one thing I know about
Starting point is 02:22:22 people who are involved in these sorts of fringe groups one of the trends that runs through all of them is a certain amount of paranoia a lot of them have good reason to believe that anybody in that group could be a government mole yeah because it might be it's a good idea to get a mole in these yeah you gotta know because these are these are basically like their terrorist group exactly you know how you want Intel Alex you know how you want Intel on what a terrorist group in
Starting point is 02:22:52 Iraq is doing so do we but also on the ones in the United States their sleeper cells here essentially they are that which you are afraid of right so look it's so dumb it's just it's again it's making stuff up out of whole cloth so I don't look I don't know I don't know anyway we have one more clip of the shark jump and in this one so there's a wait so what was it so the shark the shark jump is ban all Muslims yes yeah but then he did go on after that now that's not true I don't believe
Starting point is 02:23:29 that what I do believe is we should ban most Muslims like how did he how did he think that's a shark jump again I don't get where he thinks satire in reality where the line is where sincerity falls on that spectrum I have no idea but I know that what he means is that I'm going to say that I call for the banning of all Muslim symbols the closing of all mosques the deportation of all Muslims and then people will take that out of context they won't point out that afterwards I said right
Starting point is 02:24:02 I'm not saying that seriously or immediately before it I said right going to fuck with people exactly so I there's a logical form of like sort of dealing with arguments called reducto at absurdium and that's where you take someone's argument and you point out an example of what their logic implies that turns it into absurdity yeah it's Italian for Latin for reduced to absurdity yeah Alex Jones in this next clip accidentally does that to his own fake argument so this is actually a real treat
Starting point is 02:24:35 let's jump this shark but separate from that this is the logic this is what they're pushing and so if one man killing nine people one degenerate white person who couldn't even get the clan to following committed that heinous act then ladies and gentlemen we have to remove the Confederate flag next the American flag now they're calling to remove Mount Rushmore again that's all marked ice let's remove every symbol somebody uses in a wrong way if somebody runs over somebody with a Ford
Starting point is 02:25:15 truck I want for to change the symbol change its name and I want by law every Ford symbol removed and if you don't $10,000 fine and there have been people that have used Chevy cars to kill people in crowds I want Chevy bad so now that is a stupid application of his logic yeah unfortunately isn't at all related to the logic of people who want the Confederate flag taken out of state buildings it doesn't work at all the only thing that him making this stupid fake argument about Chevy
Starting point is 02:25:47 trucks have been used to bow down people so ban Chevy trucks that only hurts your fake argument it only shows how different that is from anything anybody else is saying yeah so he is just fucking thrown a javelin through his argument yeah he might as well have been like oh well somebody from Iran came over here and committed a terrorist act so we should ban all people from Iran from coming into the United States wait I think he is saying that now is he saying that
Starting point is 02:26:15 now that's odd might be in direct one to one comparison it turns out that might be actually like all this stuff where he's claiming he's jumping the shark might be what he actually believes it does seem like that right yeah it does feel that way he does he's really careful to try like over the next couple episodes he is like now what I did was yeah you know what it didn't work the way he wanted it to of course that anyone picked up on no no one was like oh we got a report on this if he did
Starting point is 02:26:40 it today people would be fucking talking about it but 2015 people didn't care nearly even then if he did it today people would be talking about how dumb he is yeah not for saying we should ban all Muslim symbols but for saying I am going to do this as a lie yeah then lie and then I'm going to tell you that I was lying about it well actually knowing media matters and the way they operate I bet they would fall for it I think you're I think you're well they that they that episode with
Starting point is 02:27:11 the fill your hand yelling at Adam Schiff they didn't talk about how he's clearly drunk on that episode okay they aren't the best at picking up all the context of what's going on that's true but they mean while I'm not I'm not trying to shit on right so we've already done that the shark has been jumped Jordan it got jumped so he ends this episode with a interview he should end it with a and some double guns yeah yeah which he actually has in studio so I meant finger guns he ends the
Starting point is 02:27:41 episode with an interview with a pastor whose name escapes me it doesn't matter it's just about how the Confederacy was pretty cool oh no but he does say this the pastor and this is where he loses all of his credibility there's never been a civilization in the history of the world that has officially embraced promoted and legitimize the homosexual lifestyle that is survived that is simply a matter of historical record let me actually use let me use a reducto ad absurdium argument
Starting point is 02:28:15 against his I will do it in real time no cultures that didn't have we didn't have Nintendo we's have all not survived there we go it's stupid it's pointless yeah it doesn't mean anything you can't you can't imply causation between except the homosexual lifestyles why did the Aztecs fade away but fucking didn't have we's okay everybody knows this yeah because we's have properties I got nothing yeah it's no yeah yeah exactly that's just like saying all of the cultures who
Starting point is 02:28:54 aren't alive now aren't alive now for any reason right but it's gays yeah the other thing too is like hey a buddy there are a lot of civilizations that didn't formally recognize homosexuality and they don't exist anymore either yeah so I mean it's and you know Spartans fucked a lot they did in the butt yeah there was there was a bit of that yeah like it you understand and they actually did embrace it pretty pretty heavily it was a well the they had weird ideas about it well
Starting point is 02:29:23 yeah well it wasn't it wasn't yeah it wasn't like we're in a loving relationship it was like a little teaching thing in like in Athens it was more teacher Lee base exactly that was more like if you're a teacher and you had a pupil you could fuck yeah but it was based on respect and that sort of thing I don't understand that Spartans there was a lot of like soldiers fucking yeah there was stuff like that and it was more like we're so manly we're gonna fuck as I recall there's nothing
Starting point is 02:29:52 manlier than fucking another dude as I recall there's some stuff in Viking history about that too yeah I you get a bunch of dudes together in a small and close enough space sooner later they're gonna fuck especially if you're out on a boat forever yeah yeah I feel I feel silly bringing the like Norse shit into it because I don't really know all that much about it but be that as it may yeah I mean you could pick any hundred things about our modern culture that exists and be
Starting point is 02:30:18 like well you know past civilizations didn't have this or did have this it's fucking dumb anyway this guy's an asshole so we have a very short way to go to get through the rest of this the rest of the time because the last couple episodes in our stretch to July 21st are terrible okay he jumped the shark and he fucking did not get back up he crashed right landing the 19th because the 18th is Saturday so there's no show 19th he does a Sunday show and it's mostly about how
Starting point is 02:30:51 the British nobility are Nazis and sure about how a picture of the Queen when she was young a Highling Hitler came out and like he's been vindicated on everything he's always said and man cow sent him a congratulatory for somebody for somebody who's always being vindicated he sure feels the need to say he's being vindicated all the time and to do whole shows about it yeah so that's kind of dumb and I don't really care I don't really particularly I'm not all that
Starting point is 02:31:17 interested in his feelings about the British nobility you know they're they're a mess but we get to the 20th we get to Monday talks more about British nobility and the show is boring but he does say this there's one clip worth listening to here and it's this one in high school we go to the beach oh no personal history and I think I separated the boys from the men almost all the guys would be scared to go skinny dipping with the cheerleaders I should tell these
Starting point is 02:31:45 stories I feel like I'm ready to go and of course something really had to worry about out out of the Gulf of Mexico at night was not so much sharks they're out there but you got a better chance by being run over by an elephant and bitten by a shark is the jellyfish jellyfish will get you yeah he's skinny dip with the babes and that's what separates the boys from the men is back then he wasn't afraid to skinny dip with the ladies so it's his personal history mixed with even dumb
Starting point is 02:32:12 masculine ideas yeah that's that's not true I believe it's probably true I don't think it's true at all I think it's true okay well not his assessment but the fact of him skinny dipping with cheerleaders I believe that maybe no I don't fucking pictures of him from he was younger he was swole as fuck okay he was built like a brick shithouse this guy who's true all right he was he was fit when he was younger I don't like the way you're talking he was also crazy it's
Starting point is 02:32:42 very it's very disconcerting he was a he was a bad kid very Spartan of you he was a bad you know what I'm saying he was a bad kid who got into a ton of fights but also was traditionally attractive so I could see him being one of these bad boys who goes skinny dipping with girls if he's fucking like a hundred fifty girls before he's not true either no but we have to live inside his fantasy okay I believe he probably did have sex with a couple people before he was 16 but me that is it may
Starting point is 02:33:09 unimportant it's more important that Alex is like this is what bravery skinny dipping with girls when you're young yeah I skinny dipped I don't give a shit I don't think it was brave of me anyway we move on to the July 21st episode where we will end our investigation again no more comes up about Trump so the actual investigation is kind of over but he does get back into this whole episode mostly on the 21st if there's two narratives that he's spending one we're not going to talk
Starting point is 02:33:40 about at all I'll talk about it but we don't any clips Alex is furious this is a big new all over again Alex is furious that they don't let army recruiters carry guns there's like army recruitment centers and they don't have our that they're it's after the Chattanooga shooting right where a guy shot some military people and so Alex is extrapolating that and so Joe Biggs is on the scene at the just south of Austin army recruitment center with a team of patriots with guns guarding
Starting point is 02:34:14 place no God damn it yeah so Joe these are larkers basically yeah so Joe Biggs is out there he does a report his Skype is terrible it breaks up over and over again and he's just like hey man I'm out here got my guns and protect these people I have some experience with army recruiters because I I don't know if it's changed I certainly hope it has but when I was in high school the army recruiters were in your schools yeah oh they were in my school too they were there and their whole goal
Starting point is 02:34:42 was to manipulate you into signing up they were they were door to door salesman basically yeah our guy was super cool because of course he is and we didn't know any better than he was trying to get us into the army right he would do James Brown impressions he would dance oh no he was awesome he seemed so cool but I as you sort of as time went on you start to realize why does he keep asking me what my future plans are yeah this is weird I had a couple friends who fell for it ended up
Starting point is 02:35:10 signing up I don't think any died should look into that so I don't care all that much about army recruiters because it isn't really the benign thing of like oh you you want to sign up so you go sign up now they're salesman yeah there is a manipulative game that they're playing in order to trick people and if you have if you have commercials for the Navy like join the Navy yeah you're yeah it's absurd to think that they don't get bonuses for signing people up it's absurd to think
Starting point is 02:35:41 that there isn't quotas that they they're supposed to reach yep so I mean they've invested interest in kids signing away their future so I don't want to talk about that because I don't really give a shit and Joe Biggs heavy yeah but Alex does say one thing that's really funny I wish I would have pulled this quote but he says Joe Biggs is not a man to make shit up flash forward to Joe Biggs getting fired for reporting on pizza again so the other narrative of the show that takes
Starting point is 02:36:10 up most of it is these Planned Parenthood videos he gets back to him and he says some fucking wild stuff about them here's the first clip and when we're not doing it at the Capitol when there's Christians just praying trying to ban partial birth so this is about his demon narrative about the every time you're at an abortion protest demons show up yeah I'm sorry that I forgot there was some context needed there women in in flowery colors old young black white Hispanic
Starting point is 02:36:41 mainly white and black mainly white actually start going I mean it's interdimensional it's Satanism it's real something is going on it's in every one of these videos there's wine caviar lavish restaurants I love Lamborghinis dead babies yeah and then and then I said me seems like it's so liberal yeah so there we go with more classism but then secondly he's talking about the Lamborghinis and this is something that's important to bring up it's based on the deceptive editing
Starting point is 02:37:12 of the videos there's one lady who's having a conversation with someone about setting up a relationship where this fake research center could get tissue samples right every single time that they talk about intact samples they don't they the people making the video want you to believe that what they're talking about is a full baby yeah and that's not what they're talking about course not they're talking about like an intact liver or an intact organ yeah like that which is
Starting point is 02:37:38 well within the legal situation and that is what they're talking about and they should use the whole baby sure like the buffalo exactly so the other thing is this Lamborghini thing was a lady talking and she's clearly talking to the waiter and it's clearly what do you want lay on a Lamborghini it's an old lady she's making a lame waiter I mean that no no I mean the editing of that I think both yeah well yeah that's a good point so Alex tries to make the claim that
Starting point is 02:38:07 they're buying Lamborghinis based on these baby monies and stuff like that right and I just feel the need to clarify I mean I watched all these videos today yeah just in preparation and it's so clear that this is a fucking manipulative cut and that she's not talking to the camera of course not so here we go oh yeah oh yeah Caitlyn Jenner oh we got the moral high grass girl I mean while we're on it it's crazy these people are demons
Starting point is 02:38:35 they just appeared start crawling out of trash cans one guy ran and hid in the dumpster I mean they're like he might have been Oscar the great that's not really demonic as it as much as it is hobo or Sesame Street so I don't anyway I don't demons demons and when you confront them they'll actually just basically roll around on the ground like in Christ time saying we are Legion you are Legion you saw the movie of you oh yeah it's like we're in the glasses folks I'm telling you
Starting point is 02:39:11 it's like they live maybe I should just settle down and play that six minute piece of membrane put together from they live when we had Rowdy Piper on because you know rowdy Piper trying to get his buddy to put the glasses on he won't do it because put these glasses on or start eating concrete man once you see it is no going back just take the red pill people another movie yeah do you really want to side with ghoul women over to the bottle red wine
Starting point is 02:39:42 classism yes talking about Lamborghinis and from baby art sales like a lot more fun than you want that on your conscience I don't even know about the show at this point I just oh my god what a yeah come on you know I don't like it when the cops pull me over and give me a ticket it's not that I'm mad they're giving me a ticket for speeding I shouldn't be speeding it's dangerous it's not good I get we got to have
Starting point is 02:40:09 small order it's that they'll be sure reason you were speeding 10 miles over the speed limit like is there a reason you're not arresting people selling baby parts well yeah because it's not illegal and it's not what's happening it's not that they're selling baby they're not selling baby parts it's so crazy and that whole thing like do you want to side with these evil women like well I mean based on the truth yes because they're not evil well also even if they even if they were evil
Starting point is 02:40:38 they sound like a lot of fun I like you auntie yeah I would go to a white party nice red wine Lamborghini I've never driven one of those well she doesn't have one she clearly is telling away she wants we just want to Lamborghini it's so she's in she's aspiring she's got ambition there is a great moment that again I didn't cut this clip just because of time constraints but the Alex says defending Planned Parenthood when these videos come out is going to blow back on you and it's so
Starting point is 02:41:07 ironic because he never I well I don't know I can't say for certain we'll find out as this investigation goes on but I guarantee he never is like I'm sorry that I reported this of course I know that it was manipulative I'm still against abortion which would be the respectable thing to do if he was like I'm against abortion I have a principle that even up to the first trimester I don't think it's okay I believe it's a human if you were to say that I'm sorry these videos were
Starting point is 02:41:36 manipulative it was propaganda I fell for it I'm sorry if you were to say that I would respect the hell out of it I'd be like it's okay I don't think any conservative outlet has said that certainly a lot of people in the House and Senate had to yeah well that's true when they did investigation that's true they did but I don't think the news really I don't think the opinion slash news media no for the conservative propaganda machine ever was like well guys we got it wrong and I'm pretty
Starting point is 02:42:08 certain that Fox News isn't reporting too much on the trial of those guys no much like Hannity is not going to apologize for Seth Rich of course eventually so he gets into this next clip is a bit more about the Planned Parenthood stuff but what's important here is the video is a lie the videos that he's talking about our lives right now he's going to lie about the lie he's going to okay he's going to editorialize and add things that aren't in those videos in order to grow
Starting point is 02:42:39 the demonicness of it or the villainy so even if he's just reporting on the video that is reporting on a lie this is lying about a lie right that's fascinating to me that's like next level propaganda oh well when you multiply negative two by negative two you wind up getting positive for so that tracks yep trendy women lisping driving brand new Mercedes drink 200 bottle red wine talking and smacking and going let me try not to chop them up in too big a piece is going to
Starting point is 02:43:11 get all the goodies and just kind of thrusting or oh yeah oh yeah that's what he sounds like when he fucks like there any winehouse singing some some blues jazz riff but you're not on stage turning on a bunch of men you're you're a sick freak talking about baby parts it's not like you're in front of your husband in the bedroom you're talking about dead body parts and they're just waiting around in their chair oh god like this is why you're not in movies you understand they're
Starting point is 02:43:55 coming you're a terrible actor Jordan I'm sorry I have to go back because it look you're right you're right I threw up a little bit you're right to yell but we've got we've got to get a clean take of what happens after he fakes throwing up because it's so funny he's so dumb like first of all the lie on the lie too is these women aren't squirming around and acting like they're sexually excited yeah I don't know what it is he's fucking he's trying to weave his narrative that he has built up in
Starting point is 02:44:25 the past that people demons it turns them on people who are pro abortion have some sort of a sexual thing about killing babies yeah it's all nonsense but he's trying to make this lie match up with his preexisting lie and it doesn't work if you watch the videos that doesn't match up at all now also he says that they are driving Lamborghinis the lady says she wants a Lamborghini there's no indication that she has one right and who cares if they're drinking wine you asshole
Starting point is 02:44:50 anyway here we go hey real Americans drink paps all right fair enough I kind of agree with that. I can't handle it anymore. I'm about to throw up actually said throw up a throat. I want away from these people I don't like them they say our kids belong to them you understand they're coming they're coming for us God I can't stand them. They're dangerous yeah they're even uncool they're so uncool
Starting point is 02:45:19 they're so uncool so at the end of the show he has like I said he does more of this Joe big stuff right he says more bullshit about Planned Parenthood stuff but I think we've we've gotten all we're going to get out of that yeah then he has the on air debut of his 12 year old son. Oh no no he does a admirable book report and I don't want to make fun of him again because he's a child that's a big new no it was about GMO.
Starting point is 02:45:51 Okay we just let's move on yeah I'm just gonna get mad look I'm just gonna get mad. You know I'm gonna get mad because I have sympathies for him because he doesn't know any better. I think he did a great job for a 12 year old doing a news report. I know people in high school in my broadcast production class that did way worse stories than he did under way less pressure
Starting point is 02:46:16 but he also had all the Info Wars money and team behind him right sure he didn't edit it himself. I'm sure he did he did a fine job but also it's his dad forced him to edit it himself really really fucked up you won't get your praise until you finish this it's really really really fucked up the way Alex does this he has Rex on and he's talking about how he's going to be even greater than him in the Info War and it's really putting a lot of pressure on a
Starting point is 02:46:45 12 year old who's a everything the light touches what what is 12 that's like fifth sixth grade sure that's a lot of pressure to know about globalists yeah well if your voice hasn't even changed and you're already being primed to fight the globalists man you got a big head start so Alex plays his report and before that he has him sitting in studio and he does the like you're going to be greater than even me or a sharp kid I love you so much calls him sweetheart it's very weird and it's very weird
Starting point is 02:47:14 especially considering he now doesn't have custody but be that as it may I again whether or not he's a good dad he's a fucking lunatic before he intros Rex he has him sitting there while he doesn't add no so Rex is sitting at no Rex is sitting there that's why you had me write super male vitality down I did Rex is sitting there looking over at his dad selling boner medication it's not quite the way you think it's going to go oh no but you did get it that it is has to do with super vitality
Starting point is 02:47:51 is he going to say something like that's how we got you Rex because if he does that's going to creep me out a lot no because that I don't think I would have cut out I think that would be allowed that one okay no this actually put the mic down because this guy accidentally might be the most progressive Alex Jones has ever been which is really just a sell product I'm going to give you a little news flash the only thing different about super female vitality is it has frisky goatweed has a different
Starting point is 02:48:18 name and 20 go it's got a scientific name and it's more of an aphrodisiac it has all the same stuff the male stuff has in it and it does some other things to your body not just the libido but it's super female quite frankly is the formula I like best even more the super male but group debates that with me it's different for everybody and they go Alex is not too good if you say you take female vitality on air whatever whoa Alex Jones welcome to the party
Starting point is 02:48:54 that's like it doesn't matter if I take male or female super it's all bullshit anyway we gendered these are yeah there's no point in doing it maybe maybe he could learn a lesson from that yeah maybe he could maybe he could stop calling him male and female and instead let them choose what they want to be these horny urrs yeah it's got horny goatweed in it I sell supplements on my website that you could buy in a truck stop bathroom it's the only place I've seen fucking horny goatweed
Starting point is 02:49:22 sold out of those condom dispensers it'll get you going it'll get you going that's why they call it horny goatweed get it I guess so anyway that brings us to the end of July 21st and thus the end of our part four of our investigation of what happened to Alex Jones so far we see little evolution in his feelings towards Donald Trump except to say that maybe someone loves some bigotry he does love that and maybe someone told him to stop talking about his mob ties right I didn't
Starting point is 02:49:50 speculate about that earlier but I might as well the stuff that he was saying about Trump before this was basically vague accusations of crimes yeah so there's a decent chance someone was like dude you got to stop that in not necessarily in nefarious ways but just like it could be it could be yeah but it could also just be somebody being like yeah hey that is you something you could be sued we know his lawyers aren't that good that's a good point so he might have had someone
Starting point is 02:50:21 who touched him and was like hey you gotta you know calm down on that right so he decided he's not going to attack Trump anymore but even in that speech he still says he doesn't trust him and thinks he's going to betray everyone yeah so there's no evolution for the rest of the time but fuck was that job shark jumping fun that was insanity that was complete nonsense and then beyond that what else do we have oh Alex is an idiot and he believes a propaganda about Planned Parenthood
Starting point is 02:50:49 I just love the the abortion protesters he literally and not not in a figurative way like he described like Hillary Clinton is a demon and and you know smells like sulfur as a way of describing you know all of this stuff flies land on yeah he's literally saying it is something interdimensional yeah and that at these abortion protests they appear fucking appear out of the ground and if you confront them they will contort on the ground saying we are Legion yeah and he they
Starting point is 02:51:23 are Legion and he's sick of them yeah makes him throw up a little bit but my mouth a little bit but that was that was so that was so terrible that was real bad that was really bad but it's one of these gotta take an acting class it's one of the few times that I've been listening to the show and I legitimately like Blurt like you are such an asshole I was like come on man you sense memory use something yeah take an acting class yeah so if you'd like to you can find us on the internet
Starting point is 02:52:00 at knowledge fight dot com correct and we'll be back soon with another installment of this investigation hope picks up we are getting close to August where the first debate happens right so we'll see again Roger Stone is not shown up yet right Steve Pachanik is not there I actually want to make this clear what I remember that on our last episode I we didn't spell this out enough we danced around it a little bit and
Starting point is 02:52:26 let me see if I can find the best way to say this Alex needs to be lied to in order to get on board with Trump whole hog because of the things he knows about him and the lack of trust right he knows about these connections that he has to mobs he knows about Russia connections x y and z so in order for him to get on board what we said is he needs another compelling thing which we speculated would be this culture war stuff I regret that I didn't point out that
Starting point is 02:52:57 that Steve Pachanik's role in the whole con Steve Pachanik is there to give the Russia didn't hack this stuff it was Patriots within our government okay so Steve Pachanik is there functionally as the cover for those lies that Roger Stone is going to tell him okay that's what I think all right but it's probably more likely it's just bigotry yeah it's boy everything's everything could be nefarious but it could also just be bigotry the reason that I think it has to be nefarious
Starting point is 02:53:26 the entirety of American history true the reason I think it has to be nefarious though is it's such a wild coincidence that all of these people would change their mind in exactly the same way at exactly the same time yeah but anyway we'll find out that Trump did unite us yeah he's a uniter well United them yeah yeah I just threw up in my mouth oh that was pretty good I believed it if you can also follow us on Twitter if you don't want to throw up in your mouth at knowledge underscore
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Starting point is 02:54:26 wrap apart still lives Andy and Kansas you're on the air thanks for holding so Alex I'm a first time caller I'm a huge fan I love your work I love you

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