Knowledge Fight - #52: July 14-21, 2015
Episode Date: June 12, 2017Today, Dan tells Jordan all about the fourth installment in his investigation into what happened to convince Alex Jones to sign up with Team Trump. In the last episode, we learned that Alex felt that ...Trump was a "predator," a "shill," and clearly mob-connected, so how does his opinion come to change? Topics covered on today's episode: Alex "intentionally" "jumps the shark" (?) Alex is fooled by criminally edited anti-Planned Parenthood propaganda videos A caller convinces Alex that Jade Helm is real, and that the UN is operating out of a Walmart in Alabama
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                                        Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.
                                         
                                        Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
                                         
                                        I love you.
                                         
                                        Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.
                                         
                                        I'm Jordan.
                                         
                                        We're a couple dudes who like to sit around and drink novelty beverages
                                         
                                        and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
                                         
                                        That's correct. Today, we have Sprecker, a fire-brewed cherry-cran gourmet soda.
                                         
    
                                        It is definitely gourmet. Cherry-cran.
                                         
                                        I don't understand.
                                         
                                        Now, hold on.
                                         
                                        Prediction.
                                         
                                        Prediction.
                                         
                                        Is it going to be cherry-cran cola or just cherry cranberry?
                                         
                                        What do you think?
                                         
                                        I don't know. I don't actually know what applying the word cola means.
                                         
    
                                        Well, it means it tastes like a Coke, but with cherry-cranberry flavoring.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Or is it just straight-up fruit soda?
                                         
                                        Um, let's go with Coke with, let's go with cherry Coke.
                                         
                                        Let's find out.
                                         
                                        Here we go.
                                         
                                        The big reveal. Jordan taking a swig.
                                         
                                        Wow. This is fucking delicious.
                                         
    
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        It is so good.
                                         
                                        This is the first.
                                         
                                        It's so good.
                                         
                                        I'm going to drink six of these.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        Um, what does it taste like?
                                         
                                        I have no idea.
                                         
    
                                        No clue.
                                         
                                        Right now, all I can experience is joy.
                                         
                                        I will open mine up during our first clip, but first let's get to an out-of-context drop of Alex Jones.
                                         
                                        Before we do that, let me ask you a question about this show.
                                         
                                        Oh yeah, I forgot about that.
                                         
                                        Do you remember how we're professionals at this apparently?
                                         
                                        I don't.
                                         
                                        Oh, fair enough. Good point.
                                         
    
                                        Listen, I know a lot about Alex Jones.
                                         
                                        Do you?
                                         
                                        I do.
                                         
                                        Can we take that again?
                                         
                                        From the top.
                                         
                                        There's a twist to this show.
                                         
                                        Is there a twist?
                                         
                                        I know a lot about Alex Jones.
                                         
    
                                        I don't know anything about Alex Jones.
                                         
                                        Let's get to an out-of-context drop.
                                         
                                        And liberal.
                                         
                                        And liberal.
                                         
                                        I'm liberal.
                                         
                                        I rule.
                                         
                                        And liberal.
                                         
                                        Also.
                                         
    
                                        All right. That's a good one.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it's pretty good out-of-context drop.
                                         
                                        I'd like to give a shout out.
                                         
                                        Is he also doing riddles with fucking Frodo in the dark?
                                         
                                        That sound like some sort of weird troll.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I'd like to give a shout out to someone who is not a troll being ladies and gentlemen.
                                         
                                        That is some great, great segway.
                                         
    
                                        This is a first honorary policy won because I don't know if this guy donates to the show,
                                         
                                        but I've been putting off writing back an email to listener Brian for quite a while.
                                         
                                        He sent me what may be the world's greatest email.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        That really sort of lifts my spirits.
                                         
                                        Whenever I feel like it doesn't matter that we're doing the show, I can take a little
                                         
                                        look at this email and be like, all right, that's very reassuring.
                                         
                                        And I appreciate it very much to the point where I've been trying to write him back for
                                         
    
                                        about two weeks and I can't.
                                         
                                        I sit down and I feel like an asshole.
                                         
                                        So instead of writing you back, Brian, I'd like to thank you publicly and give you an
                                         
                                        honorary policy wonk status.
                                         
                                        I'm a policy wonk.
                                         
                                        Welcome aboard.
                                         
                                        Welcome aboard, Brian.
                                         
                                        You don't need to give Brian to be a policy wonk.
                                         
    
                                        Apparently your email was so good that Dan apparently kept it to himself and did not
                                         
                                        tell me about it, which I can only meet.
                                         
                                        I can only assume means you talk some serious shit about me.
                                         
                                        All about how much you suck is all about how the show is garbage and it should just
                                         
                                        be Dan Jordan yells too much.
                                         
                                        We just want Dan's analysis said nobody.
                                         
                                        I know it was more just I was embarrassed that it was so positive.
                                         
                                        I have to hide those things.
                                         
    
                                        Anyway, thank you very much, Brian.
                                         
                                        It really does.
                                         
                                        It really does mean it really does mean a lot whenever people say nice things.
                                         
                                        Indeed.
                                         
                                        It really does or unnice things about Alex Jones.
                                         
                                        So today, Jordan, we're going to be embarking in part four of my investigation into what
                                         
                                        the fuck happened to Alex Jones in 2015.
                                         
                                        Right today.
                                         
    
                                        We're going to be covering the time span of July 14th through July 21st 2015.
                                         
                                        It's going to be strange.
                                         
                                        It's a weird road ahead, but there's a lot of stuff that's very worth discussing
                                         
                                        and Alex Jones being very weird.
                                         
                                        Very weird.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        His headspace is so fucked up and I think I've started to piece a few things together.
                                         
                                        I'm going to give you some of this analysis up front.
                                         
    
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        I think that Alex Jones more than being just a propagandist is someone who's tricked
                                         
                                        by propaganda very easily.
                                         
                                        That would make sense.
                                         
                                        That that follows.
                                         
                                        And I think I like to play the game where there's something super nefarious going on
                                         
                                        and Roger Stone is pulling the strings behind him.
                                         
                                        As do we all.
                                         
    
                                        And that may be the case, but a very simple explanation.
                                         
                                        Hopefully for the popularity of our show, it's the case.
                                         
                                        Sure.
                                         
                                        If we break that, that would be huge.
                                         
                                        That would be huge.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        If it turns out he's just an idiot, then we all feel kind of weird.
                                         
                                        Don't we?
                                         
    
                                        Because everyone's like, he knew that.
                                         
                                        I'm starting breaking.
                                         
                                        Scientists have discovered that Alex Jones is a fucking moron.
                                         
                                        I'm starting to get a sense that possibly a lot of his transformation that happens
                                         
                                        in 2015 is that there is weaponized propaganda going around and he is as much
                                         
                                        a proponent of it as he is a victim of it.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        And one of the things that made that click into place was I was listening very carefully
                                         
    
                                        to James Comey's testimony last week.
                                         
                                        And one of the things that he was asked was when did the FBI become first
                                         
                                        aware of Russian hacking and Russian influence campaigns?
                                         
                                        And his answer was summer of 2015, which is right around the era when we're
                                         
                                        talking about.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        I have noticed a lot of instances of Alex believing bullshit stories that
                                         
    
                                        were deliberately or at least possibly trans traced back to it's possible.
                                         
                                        It's kind of Russian propaganda.
                                         
                                        Who knows campaign.
                                         
                                        It's possible.
                                         
                                        Uh-huh.
                                         
                                        I don't.
                                         
                                        I don't know if we can definitively say that we can definitely say that he
                                         
                                        believes complete lies.
                                         
    
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        And he would be susceptible to that.
                                         
                                        Circumstantially, it does seem to make sense if he was hacked.
                                         
                                        Oh, there's all sorts of shit that now we've got a different nefarious campaign.
                                         
                                        I'm loving it.
                                         
                                        It's entirely possible.
                                         
                                        I'm loving it because if you were someone who was trying to use influence
                                         
                                        campaigns, if you were trying to use propaganda to sway public opinion,
                                         
    
                                        right?
                                         
                                        One of the very obvious targets would be Alex Jones.
                                         
                                        He's clearly crazy.
                                         
                                        He's hiding something.
                                         
                                        Yes, he is.
                                         
                                        His finances are out of control.
                                         
                                        He has a lunatic fringe of audience like it would be someone who you'd
                                         
                                        obviously want a black male.
                                         
    
                                        A lunatic fringe that we can probably safely say is proportionately more violent
                                         
                                        than the rest of us.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        So I don't know if any of this will bear out, but that's something that I'm
                                         
                                        starting to look at and starting to feel is that he just falls for propaganda
                                         
                                        really easily and we'll see a bit of it over the course of this episode.
                                         
                                        But first, let's start in July 14th.
                                         
                                        Alex Jones has an interesting ride on July 14th, but he has one big
                                         
    
                                        announcement that he starts the show with.
                                         
                                        Oh, this is very exciting.
                                         
                                        Oh, no, because I will get at well at the end of this clip.
                                         
                                        I will explain why this excites the shit out of me, but I think you'll know.
                                         
                                        I think you'll be obvious.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                        All right, strap yourselves in.
                                         
                                        It's going to be a power packed loaded transmission today and we're going
                                         
    
                                        to be going live right into the fourth hour.
                                         
                                        Most stations carry just the first three hours for years.
                                         
                                        I did four hours and a lot of stations still carry the fourth hour.
                                         
                                        That's a rear of the first hour or some stations carry the second, third and
                                         
                                        fourth hour.
                                         
                                        It varies, but I am looking at bringing back.
                                         
                                        I will announce here on air sometime this year, the fourth hour, but making
                                         
                                        the fourth hour, an intense news broadcast with a fourth hour round table
                                         
    
                                        discussion where more than 50 news articles will be covered every day.
                                         
                                        Boom, boom, boom.
                                         
                                        Throw the topic out.
                                         
                                        Get a quick comment from the people on the panel.
                                         
                                        Take a call.
                                         
                                        Go to the next story.
                                         
                                        How's that you on globalists?
                                         
                                        They suck.
                                         
    
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        So first of all, he failed.
                                         
                                        Oh, oh, really?
                                         
                                        Making a news heavy round table.
                                         
                                        News heavy.
                                         
                                        God damn it, Alex.
                                         
                                        That's a pipe dream even for you, sir, but bringing back the fourth
                                         
                                        hour means we're this much closer to John Rappaport.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, that is true.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Cause he is a fourth hour host.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        He can't exist within the context of three hours, but once the fourth
                                         
                                        hour comes, is there a possibility that we'll stumble upon an
                                         
                                        episode where he does try this fourth hour and that is the beginning.
                                         
                                        Well, Rappaport, he does do the fourth hour on this episode on July 14th.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And he has Leanne McAdoo host.
                                         
                                        I mean, I mean, when we're talking about like the round table.
                                         
                                        So like he does, he tries that out, bro.
                                         
                                        I don't think he ever does that because of, I mean, but come on.
                                         
                                        You can't just, just the idea of Alex trying to coexist with three
                                         
                                        other people allowed to talk at the same time.
                                         
                                        Not a chance.
                                         
    
                                        No, zero chance.
                                         
                                        I think his premise beautiful fire.
                                         
                                        I think the premise is he's not involved in the fourth hour.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        I think he is saying because he does get into like, I've been secretly
                                         
                                        training the anchors, having them on air.
                                         
                                        Why secretly just train them?
                                         
                                        That's a good idea.
                                         
    
                                        I've been putting them on air.
                                         
                                        They don't know I'm building to something.
                                         
                                        David Knight anyway, but they should know it's their job.
                                         
                                        Another thing he talks about is how he's going to launch a TV network,
                                         
                                        which is important because he's lying about that currently.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        Two years later, uh, he's still saying we're about to do this.
                                         
                                        Roger Stone's going to have a TV show.
                                         
    
                                        Mike Cernovich is going to get a show.
                                         
                                        Any moment now.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        So, uh, I think there's reasons not to get too freaked out about Alex's
                                         
                                        stated plans in 2017 of having a TV network.
                                         
                                        I don't think we need to worry too much about that.
                                         
                                        Nope.
                                         
                                        But if it does happen, we do need to be very worried because.
                                         
    
                                        I think it would rapidly become the most sued TV network in history.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        Now that worries me just because I don't know if I'm ready to
                                         
                                        allow my tax dollars to go to that many legal suits, but you remember
                                         
                                        how like spike TV immediately got sued because Spike Lee was like,
                                         
                                        that's my name.
                                         
                                        I did not remember that this will get sued faster.
                                         
                                        So I can't say this enough.
                                         
    
                                        Bring on the wrap up or yeah, I'm excited for that to happen.
                                         
                                        Leanne McAdoo hosts the fourth hour in this episode and she is not ready.
                                         
                                        I think it's just very silly how somehow we've, we've developed this weird
                                         
                                        fascination with John Rappaport to the point where now I'm kind of
                                         
                                        rooting for him.
                                         
                                        I am too.
                                         
                                        He's the worst.
                                         
                                        He's a fucking miserable monster who tries to rip fun and joy from
                                         
    
                                        everyone and spread this bullshit vaccination lie.
                                         
                                        But at the same time, look at you real look at you.
                                         
                                        You're a weird old monster that lives in a cave that can't fucking
                                         
                                        hang a goddamn painting.
                                         
                                        That's part of it.
                                         
                                        How can I not love this man?
                                         
                                        That's a big part of it.
                                         
                                        The other part is that he looks like a druid.
                                         
    
                                        Like there's like he's a googly-eyed Muppet druid.
                                         
                                        Anyway, we'll get to John Rappaport when he shows up.
                                         
                                        He hasn't even shown up in an interview up till this point.
                                         
                                        So I don't even know where he is.
                                         
                                        Where was he found?
                                         
                                        I don't know, man.
                                         
                                        The other.
                                         
                                        I want an origin story.
                                         
    
                                        The other realms.
                                         
                                        I want an origin story on John Rappaport.
                                         
                                        So, uh, is he Rattagast the brown?
                                         
                                        I think is the greater question.
                                         
                                        The gray.
                                         
                                        Like that's Gandalf.
                                         
                                        That's Gandalf.
                                         
                                        I apologize.
                                         
    
                                        Rattagast was the brown.
                                         
                                        I'm not a big enough nerd.
                                         
                                        I'm sorry.
                                         
                                        I'm a big old nerd for the Lords of the Ringgoos.
                                         
                                        So some people have sort of religious feelings about Lord of the Rings.
                                         
                                        Would you agree with that?
                                         
                                        Some people sort of take it on as a religion.
                                         
                                        I'm talking about nerds here.
                                         
    
                                        I feel like you're leading me towards something.
                                         
                                        I don't, I, this is a trap.
                                         
                                        This is not a smooth transition.
                                         
                                        This is a trap.
                                         
                                        This is a terrible transition.
                                         
                                        Also, this soda is really good.
                                         
                                        It's delicious.
                                         
                                        Alex Jones wants to talk about why he's been getting more religious lately.
                                         
    
                                        And if you think that it's a complete thought, you're wrong.
                                         
                                        This soda is like Galadriel's water.
                                         
                                        You know what I'm saying?
                                         
                                        Shut up, nerd.
                                         
                                        You know what I'm saying?
                                         
                                        Nerd!
                                         
                                        Galadriel!
                                         
                                        Nerd!
                                         
    
                                        People can say before I get into all this news and talk about the guests that are coming up that
                                         
                                        why are you getting more and more religious?
                                         
                                        Well, it's been said many times, there are no atheists and foxholes.
                                         
                                        And when you read about babies wrapped in gold foil being shipped out of China by the thousands every month
                                         
                                        and being turned into powder for women mainly to eat it, believing it makes them look younger.
                                         
                                        And nobody seems to care.
                                         
                                        When you look at hundreds of millions of abortions every year worldwide,
                                         
                                        when you look at the globalist poisoning our food and water supply by design
                                         
    
                                        and forcing Gardasil shots on young girls all over the planet.
                                         
                                        When you look at our government funding ISIS and Al Qaeda,
                                         
                                        when you look at the borders wide open and El Chapo,
                                         
                                        now we learn had his wife move here to have her baby so he'd have an anchor baby.
                                         
                                        The billionaire drug dealer even lives off U.S. taxpayers.
                                         
                                        I mean, it's a joke.
                                         
                                        I mean, and so that's why I'm committed to fight as hard as I can.
                                         
                                        The British Special Forces slogan for the special air services,
                                         
    
                                        the model of special forces worldwide.
                                         
                                        I mean, they were the first to do it.
                                         
                                        S. A. S. is fortune favors the bold.
                                         
                                        Well, I'm here to tell you I in the face of them coming after our guns,
                                         
                                        coming after our health, coming after everything fortune favors the bold.
                                         
                                        What is our fortune?
                                         
                                        What made our fortune?
                                         
                                        What made the prosperity and the freedom?
                                         
    
                                        What that forbearers getting back down?
                                         
                                        What is he talking about?
                                         
                                        Refused to be down.
                                         
                                        A lot of them came from a super slavery.
                                         
                                        You name it, but they persevered to the point where at and our ancestors on
                                         
                                        losers, whether you're black, whether you're white, whether Hispanic or Asian,
                                         
                                        all peoples of the earth have incredible histories of incredible adversity
                                         
                                        and overcoming it.
                                         
    
                                        And that's why we're here today.
                                         
                                        The fact that your parents and their grandparents and their great, great,
                                         
                                        great, great grandparents were able to have children and have them survive and
                                         
                                        pass that torch forward and the fact that we're alive today as a species
                                         
                                        and dominant on this planet is because we're winners.
                                         
                                        And I'm sick of people telling us we're not winners.
                                         
                                        I don't understand what this is supposed to be about.
                                         
                                        Consciousness is incredible.
                                         
    
                                        An incredible God made you, whether you believe in God or not.
                                         
                                        Look around you.
                                         
                                        Reality is fantastic.
                                         
                                        Twelve dimensions they've discovered.
                                         
                                        Scientists believe there's probably life in other dimensions.
                                         
                                        What do you think all this is?
                                         
                                        We only see a very narrow spectrum of light just in the light spectrum of this
                                         
                                        dimension.
                                         
    
                                        The eye has not seen the ear is not heard.
                                         
                                        What God, the universe, whatever you want to call it has in store for us and
                                         
                                        we're not going to let the globalist wall off reality, put us in a matrix to
                                         
                                        control us, dumb us down and then phase us out.
                                         
                                        Like we're a horse and buggy whip in 1920 and the factories are closing
                                         
                                        because nobody buys buggies and buggy whips and horses anymore.
                                         
                                        We are the innovators.
                                         
                                        We are the great creation.
                                         
    
                                        We are in the image of the great creator.
                                         
                                        We are special.
                                         
                                        We are powerful.
                                         
                                        And that's why the fallen one is the bold wants to bring us down.
                                         
                                        So that's why Alex has been getting more religious.
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        Was there actually a reason in there?
                                         
                                        It was, it was that the closest it comes is that there's no atheists and
                                         
    
                                        foxholes and he thinks the globalists are committing war on us.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Well, they're causing all the abortions and the hundreds of millions.
                                         
                                        Gardasil.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        How many, how many people are born every year?
                                         
                                        Hundreds of billions.
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
    
                                        I don't know statistics on that.
                                         
                                        I don't know what we're at like 7.5 billion on the planet right now.
                                         
                                        So I assume it's like, I don't know, a hundred million babies born a year and
                                         
                                        then like 70 million people dying a year or something like that.
                                         
                                        So if there were hundreds of millions of abortions, that means that if he were
                                         
                                        to stop abortions, it's entirely possible.
                                         
                                        We would have 12 billion people on this planet next year.
                                         
                                        Well, according to the CDC, the Centers for Disease Control in 2013,
                                         
    
                                        664,435 legal induced abortions were reported.
                                         
                                        So that's in the, that's in the United States.
                                         
                                        So hundreds of millions worldwide, obviously.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that makes sense.
                                         
                                        The other stuff is, is crazy.
                                         
                                        Like the, the babies covered in gold foil.
                                         
                                        That was my favorite that I immediately got a Willy Wonka's factory situation
                                         
                                        going there where babies were on conveyor belts and they were just
                                         
    
                                        being rolled up in gold.
                                         
                                        There was a guy who got arrested with like some babies covered in foil,
                                         
                                        like mummified babies that he was trying to transport back to China from
                                         
                                        like the Philippines or something like that.
                                         
                                        I don't remember the, I don't remember the origin country, but the reason
                                         
                                        he was doing that is because China has a very interesting relationship
                                         
                                        with fetuses and babies, especially ones that have died.
                                         
                                        They have a whole tradition around abortion where if you get an abortion,
                                         
    
                                        you're supposed to create a shrine to the baby and worship the fetus ghost.
                                         
                                        It's supposed to appease the fetus ghost, bring it food and stuff like that
                                         
                                        to help it live in the other worlds.
                                         
                                        That's like a, that's like a botchling from a old Norse mythology.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        I don't know enough to speak on why someone would want to buy some stranger
                                         
                                        baby.
                                         
                                        I have no idea, but be that as it may, there's more complicated stuff going on
                                         
    
                                        there than Alex is really wrestling with.
                                         
                                        It's not for people to eat them.
                                         
                                        The other stuff is so crazy.
                                         
                                        Like he believes in God, but then he gets into other dimensions.
                                         
                                        There's 12 dimensions.
                                         
                                        There's probably things living in them.
                                         
                                        Scientists believe that there are things living in other dimensions.
                                         
                                        And then I want to get, I want to just jump forward to another day's show
                                         
    
                                        because it bears playing here in this clip.
                                         
                                        Alex Jones talks a little bit about what he believes about something
                                         
                                        specific to scripture.
                                         
                                        And I mean like, ooh, he's not a bad idea.
                                         
                                        He shouldn't really be bringing scripture up.
                                         
                                        I'm not certain he's talking about the same Christianity that most people
                                         
                                        know.
                                         
                                        Here you go.
                                         
    
                                        And I don't like suicide, but I understand people do when they're in
                                         
                                        so much pain.
                                         
                                        I don't judge people to commit suicide and I don't think God does either.
                                         
                                        I can't speak for God, but just at my gut level in my spirit, I think
                                         
                                        if somebody's in excruciating pain or their kids have died in a plane crash
                                         
                                        and they're distraught and I understand jumping off a cliff, I wouldn't
                                         
                                        personally do it.
                                         
                                        But strong selling assisted suicide and and eugenics and euthanasia as if
                                         
    
                                        it's just some choice of somebody who's in great pain is not what's
                                         
                                        happening.
                                         
                                        This is about devaluing human life and having the state remove people like
                                         
                                        THX 1138 or Logan's Run.
                                         
                                        So he's against assisted suicide and stuff like that because he compares it
                                         
                                        to a movie and things like Logan's Run.
                                         
                                        I think it's going to be government control of stuff.
                                         
                                        He could also have said the giver.
                                         
    
                                        They had some government control baby killing.
                                         
                                        But then at the beginning of it, he's talking about like, I'm cool with
                                         
                                        suicide and I think God is too in my gut level.
                                         
                                        I say that.
                                         
                                        And I mean, if you look at the Bible, there's seven people who committed
                                         
                                        suicide clearly in the Bible.
                                         
                                        Yep.
                                         
                                        And six of them are called specifically wicked in the Bible further.
                                         
    
                                        Job 121 says naked.
                                         
                                        I came from my mother's womb and naked.
                                         
                                        I will depart the Lord gave and the Lord has taken away a lot of people
                                         
                                        interpret that to mean that the Lord gives you life and the Lord chooses
                                         
                                        when your life will end.
                                         
                                        The Lord takes away when your life ends first Corinthians 1013.
                                         
                                        He will not let you be tempted by more than you can bear.
                                         
                                        But when you are tempted, God will also give you a way to escape that
                                         
    
                                        temptation.
                                         
                                        A lot of people interpret that to be either temptation towards sin or
                                         
                                        temptation to God will not give you more than you can handle more than
                                         
                                        you can bear.
                                         
                                        Yeah, which is clearly bullshit further.
                                         
                                        If there, if you needed one reason to disbelieve the Bible, that would be
                                         
                                        definitely the one of further.
                                         
                                        One of the commandments is thou shall not murder and strictly speaking,
                                         
    
                                        a lot of people believe that murder is suicide is murder.
                                         
                                        You're murdering yourself.
                                         
                                        It would be against if God has given you life.
                                         
                                        You don't have the right to take it away.
                                         
                                        That's a pretty consistent theological message, especially of people
                                         
                                        who have a pretty hard line on the Bible.
                                         
                                        Yeah, if you're anti-abortion, then the same logic has to apply to
                                         
                                        killing yourself.
                                         
    
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        You'd think so.
                                         
                                        Alex is in this weird fucking religious space.
                                         
                                        Either way, I just wanted to bring that up because I don't know if
                                         
                                        you know this or not.
                                         
                                        But when Alex was growing up, his parents actually read him the apocrypha.
                                         
                                        They didn't actually, they didn't have a King James.
                                         
                                        They had all the Gnostic Gospels.
                                         
    
                                        He has a Tobit tattoo on his arm.
                                         
                                        Yeah, exactly.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Or is that the Pseudopigrapher?
                                         
                                        The Gospel of Mary, the whole thing.
                                         
                                        The Gospel of, like, what was it?
                                         
                                        Is it Thomas or Judas that was discovered like 10 years ago?
                                         
                                        Judas.
                                         
    
                                        That one didn't exist back when Alex was a weeboe.
                                         
                                        Yeah, look, I think if he grew up studying Gnosticism, he would
                                         
                                        actually be way smarter because you'd have to wrestle with these
                                         
                                        enigmatic riddles and you know, what's going on with the Barbello?
                                         
                                        What's going on here?
                                         
                                        Well, he was more a fan of the one we praise the pluroma.
                                         
                                        He's more a fan of the ones where Jesus fought dragons and killed
                                         
                                        other kids for no reason.
                                         
    
                                        You know, the good stuff.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        So we get back to the 14th here and something really important
                                         
                                        happened on the 14th up till this point.
                                         
                                        Alex has only said that he doesn't trust Trump and that Trump is mobbed
                                         
                                        up, all these sorts of things.
                                         
                                        Very negative things, although he does agree with his rhetoric.
                                         
                                        Loves bigotry, hates the mob.
                                         
    
                                        And does not think it's bigotry.
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah, but let's move on.
                                         
                                        So on this show, he has an interview with TV, I don't know if he's
                                         
                                        on TV, maybe just a radio host, Larry Elder, who is big into Trump.
                                         
                                        And I think Alex is a little bit blindsided by it.
                                         
                                        Oh, really?
                                         
                                        I think he's not ready to have this interview.
                                         
    
                                        Was he not expecting this?
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        I'm not sure exactly.
                                         
                                        I think he wanted just to talk about race shit with a black guy and
                                         
                                        accidentally got sidetracked into talking to a guy who really sports
                                         
                                        Trump.
                                         
                                        Oh, okay.
                                         
                                        So what he was, what he was ostensibly doing is like pointing
                                         
    
                                        to any like he's, he's got a globe and he just closes his eyes and
                                         
                                        points on is like, find me a black guy who agrees with me.
                                         
                                        Yep.
                                         
                                        And then we'll put him on the show.
                                         
                                        So I don't feel like a horrible racist because I'm totally a horrible
                                         
                                        racist.
                                         
                                        It's possible.
                                         
                                        So he starts by having a little conversation about identity politics.
                                         
    
                                        So I think that's largely what he wants to talk about.
                                         
                                        I think you've really hit the nail on the head there.
                                         
                                        When you talk about, they've taken our basic freedoms.
                                         
                                        They've taken our economic future.
                                         
                                        They've taken our jobs.
                                         
                                        Let's talk about the globalists.
                                         
                                        And then all they give us is identity politics.
                                         
                                        That's why they're now drilling down into saying transgender.
                                         
    
                                        Don't say dad and mom.
                                         
                                        Don't say husband and wife.
                                         
                                        Don't say boy or girl.
                                         
                                        They're doing this with a straight face to just kill any identity that isn't
                                         
                                        just worshiping the state.
                                         
                                        And that is why Alex Trump is resonating.
                                         
                                        And if I were Trump, I'd broaden the argument.
                                         
                                        He has not made the argument that illegal aliens pose a threat to job
                                         
    
                                        prospects of people living in the inner city.
                                         
                                        But he soon will.
                                         
                                        So that that that I think is indicative of exactly what this interview is.
                                         
                                        Alex wants to talk about the globalists taking away identity and shit like
                                         
                                        that and that of course it's mostly influenced by the fact that people
                                         
                                        are still trying to take down Confederate flags and Alex is pissed
                                         
                                        about that.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Battle flags.
                                         
                                        Everybody who fought in the Civil War bows to me in my lineage.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        Because of tariffs.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        And then tariffs immediately in answering that question.
                                         
                                        Larry Elder is like, Hey, no, man, I gotta tell you, Trump's pretty great.
                                         
    
                                        And Alex.
                                         
                                        Well, that's why would you expect?
                                         
                                        Why does like why would Alex expect any of his guests with no prep time?
                                         
                                        Apparently none to just buy into the globalists like just because
                                         
                                        you're on info wars.
                                         
                                        You're not buying into the globalist.
                                         
                                        Well, one thing I've actually know.
                                         
                                        I'm glad you brought that up.
                                         
    
                                        One thing that Alex does very consistently.
                                         
                                        If you listen regularly, he cucks out his guests really hard because of
                                         
                                        course he does.
                                         
                                        Well, the thing that he does and I've noticed this technique.
                                         
                                        You heard it a little bit there.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        He's saying that like these people are trying to outlaw a boy and girl.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        You can't say mother and father.
                                         
                                        What he does is pretty early in the interview.
                                         
                                        He'll repeat a false story and get them to sign off on it.
                                         
                                        And if they will know that it's a false story, but they don't want to
                                         
                                        challenge his authority on the show because they also want to get to
                                         
                                        what they want to say.
                                         
                                        Exactly.
                                         
                                        They want to use the platform.
                                         
    
                                        And after that point, they are essentially compromised.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        So I know that he does that, but also I think that he has a big
                                         
                                        enough stable of people who are like, wink, wink on the globalists and
                                         
                                        stuff like that.
                                         
                                        So I mean, yeah, globalists, whatever.
                                         
                                        But did you hear about this Trump guy?
                                         
                                        I'm positive.
                                         
    
                                        This isn't the first time Larry elders been on.
                                         
                                        It's just that we don't, we've not had him on an episode before naturally.
                                         
                                        So I'm sure they have a preexisting relationship wherein they both
                                         
                                        know that each other yells about globalists.
                                         
                                        Hmm.
                                         
                                        So the GOP is trying to outlaw preexisting relationships.
                                         
                                        It's true.
                                         
                                        That's true.
                                         
    
                                        So the interview goes on a little bit and Alex expresses that he
                                         
                                        still doesn't really trust Trump.
                                         
                                        Larry, I want to get into the Donald Trump phenomenon because the
                                         
                                        mainstream media wouldn't be saying his name thousands of times a
                                         
                                        day and misrepresenting what he's saying.
                                         
                                        Hmm.
                                         
                                        If they didn't have a plan, I think it is to distract from the other
                                         
                                        Republican candidates thinking that Trump isn't serious is going to drop
                                         
    
                                        out later.
                                         
                                        That's just what my guts saying.
                                         
                                        But regardless, he's a beautiful world.
                                         
                                        So he has to be defended.
                                         
                                        So that's where he's at.
                                         
                                        He's even in this in the middle of this interview with the pro
                                         
                                        top Trump Larry Elder.
                                         
                                        He's still saying I don't trust Trump.
                                         
    
                                        Of course not.
                                         
                                        But what he is saying is true.
                                         
                                        So he has to be defended.
                                         
                                        He must be defended, which great.
                                         
                                        That's the logic of a lunatic.
                                         
                                        And now Larry Elder steps in it.
                                         
                                        Well, I disagree.
                                         
                                        I think Donald Trump has been defending himself just fine by not
                                         
    
                                        apologizing by not backing down the way Republicans normally do recall
                                         
                                        when Todd Aiken said legitimate rape.
                                         
                                        All he was saying is some women in fact lie about rape.
                                         
                                        Not, not very many do, but about 10% apparently do all of a sudden
                                         
                                        rents, creeds, dumps on him and Todd Aiken got destroyed in the election.
                                         
                                        Donald Trump has not backed down.
                                         
                                        He's not afraid of being called a bigot.
                                         
                                        Words have meaning.
                                         
    
                                        No, not in not have to mean things.
                                         
                                        Not in globalist.
                                         
                                        You have to have a word that means a thing.
                                         
                                        And then the word means a thing.
                                         
                                        So Todd Aiken's quote was in cases of legitimate rape.
                                         
                                        The body has a way of shutting that down.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        Insanity.
                                         
    
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        And then the second part that was about abortion one just putting legitimate
                                         
                                        rape, legitimate in front of rape has nothing to do with whether or not
                                         
                                        somebody lies about right now.
                                         
                                        That was entirely about all of the like, well, legitimate rape is you
                                         
                                        have to be beaten up.
                                         
                                        There needs to be a knife.
                                         
                                        You can't be coerced.
                                         
    
                                        You can't be pressured on it.
                                         
                                        You can't give in.
                                         
                                        You can't be forced to do it.
                                         
                                        So to a certain point where you're like, well, I guess this is my fault.
                                         
                                        Now that is all rape.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        It is not illegitimate rape.
                                         
                                        That's not a thing.
                                         
    
                                        Then the second part is the second part is magic.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        He said in cases of legitimate rape, magic is real.
                                         
                                        That's what he really.
                                         
                                        The body has a way of shutting that down.
                                         
                                        Yeah, shut it.
                                         
                                        What?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        So Larry Elder's argument is that Todd Aiken fucked up by apologizing.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And Trump isn't making that problem.
                                         
                                        He's not apologizing.
                                         
                                        He's not stepping into the same trap that Todd Aiken stepped into.
                                         
                                        And Todd Aiken probably would have done better if he hadn't apologized.
                                         
                                        I think that's what we've really learned is that again, dog whistling is for
                                         
                                        losers just out and out bigotry.
                                         
    
                                        That's the rule of the law.
                                         
                                        Apparently it flies.
                                         
                                        Yeah, exactly.
                                         
                                        And it turns out that like, I mean, we said it even on like when it happened
                                         
                                        earlier, like early episodes of the show, Trump should not have fired Flynn.
                                         
                                        All of this probably wouldn't be happening if he just put his dick on the
                                         
                                        table and was like, no, yeah, I don't care.
                                         
                                        Because it's because the GOP wouldn't have done anything.
                                         
    
                                        No, not a chance.
                                         
                                        God damn it.
                                         
                                        Imagine how because that's also the last time that he's really listened to
                                         
                                        anybody there either.
                                         
                                        It seems like it.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Like he everybody was like, Hey, you got to get rid of Flynn.
                                         
                                        This is a bad idea.
                                         
    
                                        We're getting a lot of bad press.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And it's nonstop from there.
                                         
                                        And now anytime they're like, Hey, Trump, don't do this.
                                         
                                        He's like, I am dementia and then yells exactly the opposite.
                                         
                                        Like the time you told me to get rid of Flynn.
                                         
                                        He baby.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        That didn't work.
                                         
                                        You think you're so smart?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Oh, you think this travel ban shouldn't be called a travel ban?
                                         
                                        Cause then we'll win in court.
                                         
                                        No, travel ban.
                                         
                                        Do you know what it is?
                                         
    
                                        It's the exact same thing I said it was on the campaign.
                                         
                                        It's the exact same thing that every court has said is illegal.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        So, um, we, this interview goes on a little bit longer and Larry Elder,
                                         
                                        even though he supports Trump in this next clip admits that Trump probably is
                                         
                                        just out for publicity.
                                         
                                        Well, I mean, I would certainly rather Donald Trump than a Hillary Clinton
                                         
    
                                        in there, but in your gut.
                                         
                                        And I really respect your opinion on this.
                                         
                                        You don't think he's some type of ringer just getting political
                                         
                                        attention for his overall empire.
                                         
                                        Oh, I think it's all of the above.
                                         
                                        I think that Donald Trump feels the worst thing that'll happen is his
                                         
                                        name recognition will be even higher and maybe he'll make even more money.
                                         
                                        But I don't think he anticipated the fallout.
                                         
    
                                        I don't think he anticipated that ESPN and NASCAR and Univision and NBC would
                                         
                                        dump him and other people are also thinking about dumping him.
                                         
                                        He may even lose clients in his, in his condos.
                                         
                                        Who knows?
                                         
                                        But I think overall what Donald Trump feels is the worst that'll happen is
                                         
                                        my brand will be even bigger, but maybe I'll make some noise.
                                         
                                        Maybe I'll make something happen.
                                         
                                        And let's not discount the possibility that he's sincere.
                                         
    
                                        He thinks the country is going to hell in a handbasket.
                                         
                                        He thinks our foreign policy is weak.
                                         
                                        He thinks our deals with various other countries are weak and he thinks
                                         
                                        the country is going down and he thinks he as a business person can do
                                         
                                        something about it.
                                         
                                        I applaud the idea of him going off the grid for this time spending his time
                                         
                                        and his energy and his money trying to make the country better as opposed
                                         
                                        to making more money.
                                         
    
                                        Why aren't people applauding that?
                                         
                                        I guess I have to say I applaud him because he is getting persecuted
                                         
                                        now and he's not backing down and he's not going to do the Miss
                                         
                                        America thing.
                                         
                                        He's going to focus on the campaign again though.
                                         
                                        Doesn't this show the other Republicans what they should have been
                                         
                                        doing the whole time?
                                         
                                        It most certainly does.
                                         
    
                                        The other Republicans are wusses and that's one of the things that that
                                         
                                        pisses people off.
                                         
                                        That's the first thing I wholeheartedly agree with him on.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's fair.
                                         
                                        But clearly, clearly with Trump in office and the other Republicans
                                         
                                        hating it and still not doing anything.
                                         
                                        Yeah, they're a giant group of wusses.
                                         
                                        Well, you see Larry Elder is affecting Alex and he's softening his
                                         
    
                                        perspective.
                                         
                                        Absolutely.
                                         
                                        Even though the conversation they're having is about how he's probably
                                         
                                        fucking around for publicity to the point where Larry Elder even says,
                                         
                                        let's not discount the possibility.
                                         
                                        He's serious.
                                         
                                        Hey, let's not throw that away.
                                         
                                        No, I know it's an outside chance, but let's maybe serious and Alex is
                                         
    
                                        like, yeah, we got to applaud it because he's putting his business
                                         
                                        things on the line, not realizing that he stands to gain so much from
                                         
                                        abusing the presidency.
                                         
                                        Oh man, and he sure does.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        So the point where all of the like, they are right about everything being
                                         
                                        a publicity stunt and a and an idea to make more money.
                                         
                                        It just so happened that he got the presidency.
                                         
    
                                        So he's using it to generate more publicity and make more money.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        He's even got the Department of Justice arguing that he should be
                                         
                                        allowed to take money from whoever he wants.
                                         
                                        Yep.
                                         
                                        The department, the Department of Justice in the United States is
                                         
                                        actively arguing.
                                         
                                        You know that constitution?
                                         
    
                                        Mm hmm.
                                         
                                        Not a fan.
                                         
                                        I fuck you.
                                         
                                        Fake news.
                                         
                                        While we're on this like little Trump thing, I loved that moment from his
                                         
                                        press conference at the end of last week where he's with the Romanian
                                         
                                        president and they're talking about waivers like visa waivers for
                                         
                                        Romanians and he's like, we didn't talk about it.
                                         
    
                                        The new president's like, I brought it up.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Just like, what the fuck are we doing?
                                         
                                        You just watch that clip alone like, no, not not good.
                                         
                                        Take everything else away.
                                         
                                        That's bad.
                                         
                                        That's very bad.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        It's not good to trust a foreign leader.
                                         
                                        I have no idea what he's up to.
                                         
                                        Although my brother was born in Bucharest.
                                         
                                        So I have some relation to Romania.
                                         
                                        There you go.
                                         
                                        Spend a tiny bit of time there as a young boy and I remember it being miserable.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        But that was also back in the well.
                                         
    
                                        That's why you got to get waivers for your visa.
                                         
                                        It was in the late eighties though.
                                         
                                        So I mean that whole area is doing a lot better than back then necessarily.
                                         
                                        Anyway, Larry elders not quite done.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        He's got to be involved in two more clips that are pretty offensive.
                                         
                                        One is about Charleston and then the other one's just.
                                         
                                        No, this one is wild.
                                         
    
                                        No, I mean, isn't that the answer that he pulls that gun out?
                                         
                                        Somebody pulls a gun out and blows him away and maybe only two people
                                         
                                        would have been dead him and maybe the first person he shot.
                                         
                                        I mean, isn't that the answer?
                                         
                                        Isn't it gun free zones and an anti gun culture?
                                         
                                        What really?
                                         
                                        What ended up killing these people casualties?
                                         
                                        You're baseline.
                                         
    
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        Oh, I would rather have two people dead than no people dead.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Maybe if he didn't have a fucking gun, he wouldn't have been able to kill those
                                         
                                        people.
                                         
                                        It's possible.
                                         
                                        But then you get into the argument.
                                         
                                        He could have had a knife, you know, blah, blah, blah.
                                         
    
                                        That's stupid argument.
                                         
                                        But it's a it's a dumb argument.
                                         
                                        But what's dumber is the idea that like, okay, someone there, it's their fault
                                         
                                        because they didn't have a gun.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And further, it's society's fault for disarming churches and it's, you know,
                                         
                                        it's the anti gun agendas fault that these people died, not the person, not
                                         
                                        the white supremacist who actually did it.
                                         
    
                                        No, so it's the anti gun agenda.
                                         
                                        Keep that in mind because there's an interesting juxtaposition.
                                         
                                        Every time somebody gets shot by a gun, it's because the anti gun agenda.
                                         
                                        Not the white supremacist who's doing it, but keep that in mind because the
                                         
                                        Charleston shooting happened, you know, two weeks before this, but there's a
                                         
                                        shooting in Chattanooga that happens a couple days after where we're at in
                                         
                                        the timeline now and Alex treats it very differently.
                                         
                                        You know, I, I said that jokingly and then I realized that's exactly what they
                                         
    
                                        believe every time somebody gets shot.
                                         
                                        It's because we say you shouldn't have guns.
                                         
                                        Yep.
                                         
                                        That's genuinely their position.
                                         
                                        That's how, how do we lose to these people, dad?
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        These are the dumbest fucking people.
                                         
                                        Speaking of dumb, it's unbelievable.
                                         
    
                                        Speaking of dumb, listen to this clip.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Alex has some weird fucking thoughts about who's to blame for racism.
                                         
                                        Oh, no.
                                         
                                        Well, it's really sad because I saw a lot of racial harmony.
                                         
                                        People coming together.
                                         
                                        Uh, it was just really refreshing and now I've never seen it so energized in
                                         
                                        my whole life, not, not growing up in the, you know, early seventies and stuff
                                         
    
                                        in the eighties and it just, it's so cold blooded.
                                         
                                        See it.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Maybe you're blind.
                                         
                                        Maybe because you didn't have to deal with it.
                                         
                                        Yep.
                                         
                                        Maybe white people, one of the big reasons you don't understand racism is
                                         
                                        because it's not a thing you deal with.
                                         
    
                                        It's not germane to your immediate experience.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        So of course you think racism isn't a problem because it's not a problem for
                                         
                                        you.
                                         
                                        You have to, you have to, you know, really expand your mind and try and relate
                                         
                                        to other people's experiences to understand just how insidious you don't
                                         
                                        even have to really expand your mind.
                                         
                                        You have to just look at a person and be like, Hey, what did you experience?
                                         
    
                                        And they tell you a thing and you're like, Oh, that's probably true.
                                         
                                        I should write.
                                         
                                        I should respect your experience instead of, instead of telling you what your
                                         
                                        life experience is, is wrong.
                                         
                                        No, cause you tell me your life experience.
                                         
                                        And then my response is, Oh man, it sucks.
                                         
                                        The globalists are doing that to you.
                                         
                                        It is.
                                         
    
                                        So it does suck.
                                         
                                        The globalists are doing that to me.
                                         
                                        Sucks, man.
                                         
                                        Uh, so that's it for the 14th.
                                         
                                        And we, we see just a little bit of softening in Alex's position towards
                                         
                                        Trump, uh, and we move on to the 15th, which we're not going to cover cause
                                         
                                        David Knight hosted, but something important to remember is July 15th, 2015
                                         
                                        was when Jade Helm 15 kicked off the old Jade Helm.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, the one that he said was, uh, was real.
                                         
                                        And then later told us was not real.
                                         
                                        We don't really know if he said it was real per se.
                                         
                                        We don't have audio evidence of that.
                                         
                                        So let's not make that claim.
                                         
                                        Fine.
                                         
                                        Disappointing.
                                         
                                        We have good reason to believe he did, but we can't prove it.
                                         
    
                                        If we can't prove it, then we can't, but I, then I will retract that statement,
                                         
                                        but we will see where his head is at a little bit later.
                                         
                                        Of course we will.
                                         
                                        On the episode of July 16th, when Alex is back in studio.
                                         
                                        Of course.
                                         
                                        So Alex starts off, uh, out, uh, the July 16th episode with a little bit
                                         
                                        of a tease, uh, that, uh, should scare everyone.
                                         
                                        I really spent some time watching Donald Trump speeches and his interviews.
                                         
    
                                        And coming up at the bottom of the hour, I'll give you my take on Donald Trump.
                                         
                                        I've really done some soul searching on the subject and I'll give you my
                                         
                                        take on whether I think he's a shell or not.
                                         
                                        Spoiler alert.
                                         
                                        He still thinks he's a shell.
                                         
                                        We'll see.
                                         
                                        That comes a little, you comes a little later in the episode.
                                         
                                        I was waiting for you to tell me.
                                         
    
                                        So on this episode, uh, Alex Jones has, he's all over the goddamn place on
                                         
                                        the 16th.
                                         
                                        It is a massive clusterfuck of weird narratives, strange things he says.
                                         
                                        Uh, but one of them is Mark Dice has a new video.
                                         
                                        We're not going to listen to it.
                                         
                                        Don't worry.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Thank you.
                                         
    
                                        It's all the same shit.
                                         
                                        Thank you so much.
                                         
                                        It's the exact same setup.
                                         
                                        It's just him talking to people on a beach with the club board getting
                                         
                                        owned.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Basically.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        This one is about how Mount Rushmore is racist.
                                         
                                        Uh, and they actually agree with that very much entirely.
                                         
                                        I mean, like Roosevelt's up there.
                                         
                                        No, I mean that they took American native lands.
                                         
                                        Oh yeah.
                                         
                                        That part and used it to build giant monuments to the very people who
                                         
                                        stole those American native lands.
                                         
                                        You know what?
                                         
    
                                        Mark Dice doesn't wrestle with that.
                                         
                                        I, I, I strangely feel like I should have known.
                                         
                                        So Mark Dice has gone out and done this video and I wanted to play this
                                         
                                        clip just because it indicates again, this insidious cycle that Alex Jones
                                         
                                        perpetuates wherein he has one of his reporters go out, create some video that
                                         
                                        doesn't say what he pretends.
                                         
                                        It says drudge links to it or it gets, you know, it gets a link up somewhere
                                         
                                        and then Alex Jones repeats it as news.
                                         
    
                                        He's going to say that there's a headline and the headline is that people
                                         
                                        are calling for the destruction of Mount Rushmore, which isn't happening.
                                         
                                        It's entirely based on Mark Dice's video at the end of this clip.
                                         
                                        It's very short, but he says that there's this is news up top and then at
                                         
                                        the end he says he told Mark Dice to go make this video.
                                         
                                        So it's just a closed loop.
                                         
                                        Yeah, completely nonsensical.
                                         
                                        Well, that's, that's how that's how Fox News operated almost from the very
                                         
    
                                        beginning.
                                         
                                        They're, they're their trick was always to have their news people say, you
                                         
                                        know, a basic story.
                                         
                                        Then their opinion people would be like, this is what is really happening.
                                         
                                        And then they're the next day, the news would keep it in the cycle by saying
                                         
                                        people are saying what is happening commentators exactly, but it's people.
                                         
                                        It's just people are saying, you know, we're reporting on what people are
                                         
                                        saying.
                                         
    
                                        We're not verifying it or supporting it.
                                         
                                        Just so happens that the people that said it are on our network and we have
                                         
                                        a vested interest in making sure that you have their thoughts in your mind
                                         
                                        all the fucking time, but people are saying it.
                                         
                                        We're reporting on it.
                                         
                                        So here's our reporting on what Alex Jones does a new video.
                                         
                                        Obama supporters advocate tearing down racist Mount Rushmore.
                                         
                                        We told you that was coming.
                                         
    
                                        Is it?
                                         
                                        In fact, I said a few weeks ago, reporters go out and call for tearing down
                                         
                                        Mount Rushmore.
                                         
                                        Well, Mark Dice has done it.
                                         
                                        So I mean, wait, what?
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's basically him saying, hey, go, go stage this thing.
                                         
                                        Go out and try and get us evidence for whatever narrative we want to
                                         
                                        support.
                                         
    
                                        And then my prediction will have come true when he's, I love that
                                         
                                        version of reporting.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it's, it's not, it's, it's quite literally fake news.
                                         
                                        Yeah, exactly.
                                         
                                        But like when he says, uh, I told you this is coming.
                                         
                                        He's not saying I told you this video was going to be released.
                                         
                                        That's not the context.
                                         
                                        He's saying he's saying that in much the same way he predicted that people
                                         
    
                                        would be calling for the American flag to be banned.
                                         
                                        Of course.
                                         
                                        Based on Mark Dice's video.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        All of these things are things like I made these predictions and then
                                         
                                        I told my reporters to somehow justify my stupid fucking prediction.
                                         
                                        That's why he's a hundred percent right all the time.
                                         
                                        All the time.
                                         
    
                                        All the time.
                                         
                                        You know what?
                                         
                                        He's not just, you can predict everything so long as you make it happen.
                                         
                                        So he's not just right all the time.
                                         
                                        He's wrong all the time.
                                         
                                        Oh, now this is going to get bad.
                                         
                                        It's going to get Mark Dicey.
                                         
                                        Something else happened in July of 2015, uh, that is really funny
                                         
    
                                        conceptually, but isn't funny at all.
                                         
                                        Uh, and that is that the center for medical progress went and made
                                         
                                        all those behind the scenes videos about Planned Parenthood people
                                         
                                        selling baby parts.
                                         
                                        That's right.
                                         
                                        And I'm going.
                                         
                                        The ones they're in jail for now, right?
                                         
                                        Uh, they're not in jail yet, but they've been charged with 15 felonies.
                                         
    
                                        Good.
                                         
                                        They, I believe the sentencing is still to come and what have you, but.
                                         
                                        Oh, I hope it's so much jail.
                                         
                                        They're in big trouble.
                                         
                                        I want a lot of jail.
                                         
                                        They're in big trouble for this and I'll explain exactly why on the
                                         
                                        other end of it, but I want to really point out Alex Jones fucking buys it.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        He is so into it.
                                         
                                        He talks about it a little bit here and then the entire show a couple
                                         
                                        days later is all about it.
                                         
                                        Well, that was a, it was an entire news cycle.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        All made up and that was all you heard that narrative being pushed to
                                         
                                        the point where now just like, just like Obama's a secret Muslim.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        The GOP still believes it.
                                         
                                        They still believe that Planned Parenthood sells baby parts.
                                         
                                        Yep.
                                         
                                        And okay.
                                         
                                        I'll just explain it now.
                                         
                                        Even though the people who, even though the people who disseminated those
                                         
                                        videos are going to jail, they're still like, ah, no, that was true.
                                         
                                        They're just being prosecuted because of the powers that be or whatever
                                         
    
                                        fucking nonsense they want to lie about.
                                         
                                        The guy who's behind the center for medical progress is a guy named
                                         
                                        David Daedalyn, uh, or Dale, Dale Dean, uh, Dale Den.
                                         
                                        Who cares?
                                         
                                        I'm good.
                                         
                                        Uh, his organization set up a fake jail Dean.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        You know what I'm saying?
                                         
    
                                        His organization.
                                         
                                        I got it.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        They set up a fake biomedical research company called Biomax
                                         
                                        procurement services under this guys.
                                         
                                        They posed as potential buyers of aborted fetal tissue and organs and
                                         
                                        secretly recorded Planned Parenthood officials during meetings.
                                         
                                        Uh, the center for medical progress released edited versions of these
                                         
    
                                        videos, which it promoted is showing Planned Parenthood officials
                                         
                                        price haggling over baby parts.
                                         
                                        When the full unedited videos became available, they instead showed
                                         
                                        a Planned Parenthood executive repeatedly saying its clients want
                                         
                                        to cover their costs, not make money when donating fetal tissue from
                                         
                                        abortions to scientific research.
                                         
                                        According to the lawyer for Planned Parenthood, Roger K.
                                         
                                        Evans, Biomax proposed sham procurement contracts offering $1,600
                                         
    
                                        for liver and thymus fetal tissues.
                                         
                                        I went back and I watched all of these videos.
                                         
                                        Uh-huh.
                                         
                                        They are shamelessly edited to the point where anyone who doesn't
                                         
                                        have an agenda that this supports would be like, come the fuck on.
                                         
                                        It's so crazy.
                                         
                                        And Alex is so into it.
                                         
                                        He like, I can't wait till we get to the 20th because that's when
                                         
    
                                        he really tees off on it.
                                         
                                        But he is so you can't wait.
                                         
                                        So we can take off on him.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Essentially.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        So gotcha.
                                         
                                        Also, the other thing that's important to point out is, you know,
                                         
    
                                        these guys, uh, let me, let me get these specifics here.
                                         
                                        Uh, so they are ba ba ba ba on March 8th, March 28th, 2017.
                                         
                                        This, uh, Dale Den and his cohort were charged with 15 felonies in
                                         
                                        the state of California.
                                         
                                        One for each of the people who they had filmed without consent
                                         
                                        because they did not get consent.
                                         
                                        Uh, and one for those hidden videos where they didn't get
                                         
                                        consent and edited heavily, making it seem like they were committing
                                         
    
                                        a crime.
                                         
                                        Yep.
                                         
                                        And one for criminal conspiracy to invade privacy.
                                         
                                        Now, the thing that is really, uh, important to note is that, uh, this
                                         
                                        is funny.
                                         
                                        This is okay.
                                         
                                        Good.
                                         
                                        Every now, now we're awesome.
                                         
    
                                        Now I'm free and clear.
                                         
                                        Everyone investigated their claims.
                                         
                                        The Senate, the, the house, all these state governors, everyone
                                         
                                        investigated it and everyone cleared Planned Parenthood.
                                         
                                        Everyone did investigations.
                                         
                                        You know who didn't clear plan Planned Parenthood center for medical
                                         
                                        progress.
                                         
                                        No, the fucking everybody.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Uh, everybody who listened to it, but this one, this one's particularly
                                         
                                        funny.
                                         
                                        On July 30th, 2015, Indiana governor, Mike Pence announced that
                                         
                                        the state's investigation did not find any evidence of wrongdoing
                                         
                                        in Planned Parenthood's handling of fetal tissue.
                                         
                                        Oh, oh, Mike Pence had to say that out loud.
                                         
                                        I bet his babies died.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        So I mean, it's just, it's insane.
                                         
                                        The number of investigations that were opened into it, they're
                                         
                                        like select committees, uh, the, the Jason Chaffetz, uh, the chairman
                                         
                                        of the United States house committee on oversight and governmental
                                         
                                        reform, that giant pussy on October 8th, 2015.
                                         
                                        He stated that a GOP investigation found no evidence of wrongdoing
                                         
                                        by Planned Parenthood, even people who are like strontially against
                                         
    
                                        Planned Parenthood are all like, fuck, there's nothing here.
                                         
                                        And who did everything possible within that investigation to try
                                         
                                        and prove it so hard.
                                         
                                        That was investigated so thoroughly for even the slight cause
                                         
                                        if there was even a slight bit, they would have been like, well,
                                         
                                        the entirety of the claim wasn't proven, but we did catch them on
                                         
                                        this, the, you know, the Al Capone, uh, racketeering charge of Planned
                                         
                                        Parenthood and they couldn't find fuck all.
                                         
    
                                        So the exception is that there was a select committee in the United
                                         
                                        States house, uh, uh, house, uh, the committee on, on energy and
                                         
                                        commerce select investigation panel on Planned Parenthood was
                                         
                                        formed to further investigate Planned Parenthood with Congresswoman
                                         
                                        Marsha Blackburn serving as the chairwoman.
                                         
                                        She sucks.
                                         
                                        On September 21st, the panel voted eight to zero to recommend holding
                                         
                                        StemExpress, which was a business that did research and got tissue
                                         
    
                                        from Planned Parenthood in contempt of Congress for failure to comply
                                         
                                        with a subpoena.
                                         
                                        The six Democratic members on the panel walked out of the meeting
                                         
                                        and protest before the vote.
                                         
                                        The committee's final report recommended that quote, the National
                                         
                                        Institutes of Health be required to stop funding fetal tissue research
                                         
                                        and that the huge, uh, health provider Planned Parenthood be stripped
                                         
                                        of U.S.
                                         
    
                                        funding.
                                         
                                        According to science, uh, the publication science, the report
                                         
                                        contained multiple inaccuracies.
                                         
                                        Democratic members of the panel who had not been permitted to read,
                                         
                                        respond to, or vote on the final report, released an alternate
                                         
                                        report in which they criticized the committee for relying on McCarthy
                                         
                                        era tactics and a relying on unsourced, unverified documents and
                                         
                                        writing of the report.
                                         
    
                                        So that's sort of some of the aftermath of this.
                                         
                                        How, how is this like, I get that you don't, don't you like not being
                                         
                                        disease-ridden?
                                         
                                        It's nice.
                                         
                                        Dan, are you a big fan of that?
                                         
                                        Sure.
                                         
                                        Do you want to, do you want to continue not being disease-ridden?
                                         
                                        Right?
                                         
    
                                        Now, you know, new diseases can happen.
                                         
                                        It's true.
                                         
                                        Like they can happen at any time.
                                         
                                        Yeah, they can evolve.
                                         
                                        Or, you know, like there might be genetic issues.
                                         
                                        Sure.
                                         
                                        Don't you want to research this?
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
    
                                        Don't you want to learn more about it?
                                         
                                        Not just, not just because, you know, you're fine now, but because
                                         
                                        maybe in the future, there will be information that you want to have.
                                         
                                        You're talking voodoo, my man.
                                         
                                        Information that you can protect yourself with.
                                         
                                        You don't play God.
                                         
                                        Don't you want to research on things that are already dead?
                                         
                                        Don't play God.
                                         
    
                                        You can't, you can't.
                                         
                                        You can't praise a spirit and keep yourself from getting sick.
                                         
                                        Why?
                                         
                                        You, can we just not give them science?
                                         
                                        You know, they don't get it.
                                         
                                        You know what the other thing?
                                         
                                        I, you know what?
                                         
                                        Eight member panel.
                                         
    
                                        You don't get any science from now on.
                                         
                                        It's a 14 member panel.
                                         
                                        Six of them walked out.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        So all eight of you, you get notes, your phones gone.
                                         
                                        So TVs gone.
                                         
                                        You know what?
                                         
    
                                        We didn't land on the moon because you're not allowed to believe that.
                                         
                                        The true comedy of it too is in this video.
                                         
                                        There are people who like this guy is giving these high prices that they're
                                         
                                        going to pay for fetal tissue and stuff like that.
                                         
                                        And pretty much across the board, the people are like that, that's higher
                                         
                                        than we pay.
                                         
                                        Like they're haggling, but it's the reverse of what you would expect in
                                         
                                        haggling.
                                         
    
                                        The person's coming too high because they're trying to make it look like
                                         
                                        there's a, a, a tissue scam going on.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        
                                         
                                        00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:06,200
                                         
                                        00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:06,700
Right.
                                         
                                        
                                         
    
                                        00:49:06,700 --> 00:49:08,400
They're trying to make money off of it.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        When in reality, it is like $50 for samples to credentialed and certified
                                         
                                        research centers.
                                         
                                        Of course.
                                         
                                        So because because because plan so stupid, because plan parenthood is
                                         
                                        so hated by the GOP for doing awful things like providing women and men
                                         
                                        and children with coverage and, and help and health.
                                         
    
                                        You know, that kind of a thing, making sure that we don't get not disease
                                         
                                        Britain, right?
                                         
                                        They hate them for that.
                                         
                                        So plan parenthood is always under investigation.
                                         
                                        It is always being scrutinized.
                                         
                                        So of course, if you go and try and catch them, do something, they have
                                         
                                        safeguard under safeguard under safeguard.
                                         
                                        Like we will show not even the slightest bit.
                                         
    
                                        We will give them no evidence so that even though when they close down
                                         
                                        those clinics at the end of the day, we will have been within perfect
                                         
                                        understanding and compliance with the law.
                                         
                                        Yep.
                                         
                                        Well, the other thing is that because if they aren't, it's gone for
                                         
                                        good every single one of them.
                                         
                                        I agree.
                                         
                                        The other thing is that like this is so indicative of what I what I
                                         
    
                                        talk about with propaganda and truth like this still people believe.
                                         
                                        It's utter horseshit and still people believe the damage is done.
                                         
                                        You can explain a way that like, no, these people are manipulative
                                         
                                        of the editing videos to say things.
                                         
                                        They don't say these people have all been investigated by legitimate
                                         
                                        boards and cleared of all any wrongdoing.
                                         
                                        And the people who made the videos are going to jail for it.
                                         
                                        Most likely, or at least being fucking sued real hard.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                        It doesn't matter.
                                         
                                        The propaganda is too effective.
                                         
                                        Now, let's get to the clips of Alex.
                                         
                                        He has a couple clips about this on this episode on the 16th.
                                         
                                        And one of the things that's really important to remember is all of
                                         
                                        the people in the videos are women.
                                         
                                        So we're going to treat them with a lot of respect and dignity.
                                         
    
                                        I'm sure that there will be zero comments on their appearance.
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        No, there are, but I'm not sure if I kept any of those in because
                                         
                                        I actually think that there's something even more important that
                                         
                                        goes on and that is that Alex Jones is clearly using coded language
                                         
                                        to evoke classism.
                                         
                                        There is like, I'll play these clips.
                                         
                                        You'll know what I'm talking about.
                                         
    
                                        It's very overt.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        He does this a lot, but it's almost, it's almost never this clear.
                                         
                                        It's fascinating to me.
                                         
                                        Another important article stone cold proof that America deserves judgment.
                                         
                                        And that's the breakdown of Planned Parenthood's custom cold director.
                                         
                                        So
                                         
                                        one of their major directors of an entire national program.
                                         
    
                                        Senior director of medical services for the Federation of America.
                                         
                                        Planned Parenthood.
                                         
                                        She was just talking about selling body parts and how they're trying to
                                         
                                        get around it to make more money.
                                         
                                        It's not what they're doing.
                                         
                                        Sitting there drinking wine at an expensive restaurant, fine dining.
                                         
                                        And again, this, this is a picture or a video that tells a million words
                                         
                                        of literally stuffing, paying for expensive wine and Italian food.
                                         
    
                                        At an upscale restaurant.
                                         
                                        Fortune favors with a paycheck from baby's body parts.
                                         
                                        They don't get their paychecks from baby's body parts, but also
                                         
                                        did you see how he kept those fat cats, the fine bottles of wine upscale dining?
                                         
                                        They are getting rich off of the tragedy.
                                         
                                        Yeah, abortion.
                                         
                                        Totally.
                                         
                                        They're convincing.
                                         
    
                                        They're convincing, susceptible young women.
                                         
                                        And you know, that's who we're really afraid of.
                                         
                                        We're afraid that you're going to corrupt our young women.
                                         
                                        Yeah, we can't have you do that.
                                         
                                        Next thing you know, they'll be sleeping with black men.
                                         
                                        They're too dumb to know any better.
                                         
                                        But anyway, this, like this thread runs throughout his entire coverage of this
                                         
                                        video.
                                         
    
                                        It's so dog whistly in terms of class, which is frustrating because we have
                                         
                                        such a huge issue with class, a huge issue with class to the point where
                                         
                                        of course it is resonant.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it should resonate, but it should be.
                                         
                                        But it's manipulative in this case.
                                         
                                        I want to eat the aborted tissue of the billionaire I ate.
                                         
                                        Is that how that works?
                                         
                                        I'm not sure.
                                         
    
                                        I don't know what my science was on that one.
                                         
                                        Well, but billionaires are fucking us over all the time.
                                         
                                        You, if you did do that, you wouldn't be able to afford a nice bottle of wine,
                                         
                                        a fine bottle of wine.
                                         
                                        Oh, well, I would age the billionaire.
                                         
                                        He's making so appropriate.
                                         
                                        He makes so many assumptions about in the hard tack.
                                         
                                        They show this, the video that he's talking about is a video where a lady
                                         
    
                                        is eating a salad.
                                         
                                        I don't, I don't know if it's a classy establishment.
                                         
                                        You really can't tell from the video and she is drinking a glass of wine.
                                         
                                        She's eating a salad.
                                         
                                        Fucking.
                                         
                                        You don't boozy bullshit.
                                         
                                        You don't know if this glass of wine is $7.
                                         
                                        You have no fucking idea how much this costs.
                                         
    
                                        That's not in the videos that he's going over.
                                         
                                        If it's not from a box, it's too rich for my blood.
                                         
                                        I go, Carlos Rossi.
                                         
                                        Pirate jug.
                                         
                                        So here's, here's him being more, more classism or more classism about
                                         
                                        the Planned Parenthood videos.
                                         
                                        We played the video the last two days.
                                         
                                        Maybe I should play it again as she smacks her lips and enjoys it and clearly
                                         
    
                                        gets off on talking about baby parts while she's swarping fine red wine.
                                         
                                        But also that's not indicative of the video at all.
                                         
                                        There's no one getting off.
                                         
                                        There's no one enjoying the idea of aborted babies at all.
                                         
                                        It's just dealing with it as like, oh, there is a research use for this,
                                         
                                        this tissue that would be being thrown away that is completely legal for
                                         
                                        them to first of all take.
                                         
                                        They have to get waivers from everybody, everybody who gets an abortion.
                                         
    
                                        There's consent forms that they have to have filled out.
                                         
                                        And some people don't sign there when they don't three day waiting periods
                                         
                                        and they're all this shit.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        And longer than you have to wait to get a gun.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        Well, it's cause you can, you can get a, you can actually get same day
                                         
                                        abortions at an abortion show.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, that's true.
                                         
                                        There's a loophole in that law.
                                         
                                        You can also get a Nazi abortion free speech.
                                         
                                        So there's two more clips, not of this, but there's two clips that
                                         
                                        are kind of fun.
                                         
                                        And then we'll get into Alex's big reveal about his soul searching
                                         
                                        about Trump is going to come.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
    
                                        Like, like I said, that this episode is really all over the place.
                                         
                                        The 16th.
                                         
                                        He is in a strange headspace because this video is fucking him up and he
                                         
                                        knows that I gotta, I gotta work on this, but then he's also got a couple.
                                         
                                        He has an interview.
                                         
                                        He's got to do later in the show and then he gets a fucking huge curveball
                                         
                                        thrown at him like right at the end.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
    
                                        And he's just sort of, he's, he's untethered.
                                         
                                        He's all over the place.
                                         
                                        Uh, and it, what's interesting to me is now that, now that he mentions
                                         
                                        that human sexuality being as diverse as it is, somebody does get off on
                                         
                                        the idea of certainly fetal tissue, right?
                                         
                                        
                                         
                                        00:55:55,600 --> 00:56:00,200
Probably one of the Satan is to, if there's anything we know about, uh,
                                         
                                        the most zealous, anti-gay, uh, GOP years.
                                         
    
                                        Sure.
                                         
                                        Generally they're the ones we find with rent boys.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        So I'm guessing, especially with all of our weird perverted sexual fantasies
                                         
                                        that, uh, Alex has thrown in there and is, has been like, this is awful.
                                         
                                        And then he's like, just this young little girl just getting taught.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Like that tone of voice.
                                         
    
                                        He does do that a lot jerks off to those videos.
                                         
                                        It's possible.
                                         
                                        Oh yeah.
                                         
                                        I'm not going to make that claim, but I am going to make the claim very
                                         
                                        strongly that when Alex Jones is untethered, when he has no bearing,
                                         
                                        what ends up happening is often he ends up bragging.
                                         
                                        And this, yes, that's true.
                                         
                                        This next clip jerks his own dick.
                                         
    
                                        This is a fucking weird brag.
                                         
                                        No, they hate me.
                                         
                                        They're a group of crooks.
                                         
                                        The globalists.
                                         
                                        Stealing our freedom, running every scam you can imagine, selling off our
                                         
                                        infrastructure pennies on the dollar.
                                         
                                        I know their game plan.
                                         
                                        I know their fraud.
                                         
    
                                        I'm straight shooting.
                                         
                                        They can't stand it.
                                         
                                        And they are now assassinating me big time.
                                         
                                        My name, who I am, a head because they've got actuaries.
                                         
                                        They've got demographics.
                                         
                                        They've got graphs.
                                         
                                        You don't know what an act.
                                         
                                        They know we've hit the Megazite guys.
                                         
    
                                        I mean, it is when I told the story last week about how I took my kids down
                                         
                                        to the hiking bike trail where there's a big luscious Creek, Barton Creek on
                                         
                                        the city owned green belt.
                                         
                                        The pop.
                                         
                                        Keep in mind, he just said, I told this story before.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        He's going to tell it again.
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
    
                                        Well, I mean,
                                         
                                        this bear is telling twice.
                                         
                                        He's got to fill time, man.
                                         
                                        This is my favorite ring belt.
                                         
                                        Just giant city parks.
                                         
                                        Basically 40,000 acres of them to be precise.
                                         
                                        And there were like 30 something people standing around at the waterfall.
                                         
                                        They're killed by my neighbor's owl.
                                         
    
                                        All of them were pointing at me saying that's Alex shows all of them.
                                         
                                        Yeah, of course.
                                         
                                        And about 10 or 15 of them came over.
                                         
                                        Five years ago, maybe 10 of them would be staring at me and five would
                                         
                                        come over.
                                         
                                        I walk.
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        Is that a good thing?
                                         
    
                                        Is that a bad thing?
                                         
                                        A few nights ago and was walking to get an Uber, maybe 200 yards.
                                         
                                        And every group of people that walked past me downtown, every group said
                                         
                                        that's Alex Jones.
                                         
                                        Paranormal.
                                         
                                        I don't know how we're reaching this many people.
                                         
                                        We don't see the numbers on the website.
                                         
                                        We don't see that.
                                         
    
                                        I mean, we see huge numbers, but nothing like this.
                                         
                                        This show is loved all over the world now.
                                         
                                        Governments listen to it because I'm just a straight shooter and we have
                                         
                                        a very accurate history and I can't believe I'm still alive.
                                         
                                        Please pray for us, but they are assassinating us right now.
                                         
                                        Very accurate history on the same show.
                                         
                                        Pitches this fraudulent plan parenthood narrative.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it's very accurate history.
                                         
    
                                        Also, ooh, you're getting in a bougie Uber.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        So I mean like you're exploiting the underclass.
                                         
                                        Well, but I mean, if you want to play the game of like, ooh, this fancy
                                         
                                        bottle of wine, ooh, you're paying a poor person to drive.
                                         
                                        Yeah, exactly.
                                         
                                        Fuck you, Alex.
                                         
                                        But like I love, I love it because you can read between the lines what
                                         
    
                                        he's experiencing.
                                         
                                        He's saying that like everyone's pointing at me and saying that's Alex
                                         
                                        Jones, which I believe is probably happening and then possibly then
                                         
                                        he's like, we're not seeing these kind of numbers on the website because
                                         
                                        of course you're not.
                                         
                                        People are aware of you at this point because of memes.
                                         
                                        People are making fun of him.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        And so when everyone's like, oh, fuck it's Alex Jones.
                                         
                                        Yeah, exactly.
                                         
                                        That's how they're saying it.
                                         
                                        It's not like, oh my God, there's the truth teller.
                                         
                                        He thinks he's, he thinks he's in a hard day's night now.
                                         
                                        That's what he thinks is going on.
                                         
                                        He's walking down the street and young new bile women are screaming his name.
                                         
                                        No, fuck that.
                                         
    
                                        I think he thinks it's like John the Baptist or something like that.
                                         
                                        Oh, okay.
                                         
                                        We're going even more delusional.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I think he thinks people are like seeing him walk around like, I don't
                                         
                                        know, Jerusalem or whatever.
                                         
                                        I don't remember exactly where John the Baptist was.
                                         
                                        Wherever the fuck he was.
                                         
    
                                        Who cares?
                                         
                                        Judea.
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        Anyway, he's walking around John the Baptist and I was like, oh my God,
                                         
                                        it's the baptizer.
                                         
                                        It's the one who prophesied the coming of Christ.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        That's what he thinks.
                                         
    
                                        He thinks people are like, oh my God, it's the guy who tells everyone the
                                         
                                        truth about the globalists.
                                         
                                        Oh man.
                                         
                                        God.
                                         
                                        Crazy.
                                         
                                        What a crazy world.
                                         
                                        Yeah, but he actually gets to a little bit later, explain why there's such
                                         
                                        a disconnect between his version of reality and everyone else's, which I'll
                                         
    
                                        play for you and I'll see if you buy into it.
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        Maybe you will.
                                         
                                        I bet I do.
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        It's a pretty, I bet it's actually 100% accurate.
                                         
                                        It's very sensible.
                                         
                                        I'm going to guess this.
                                         
    
                                        The reality of the globalist assault is so overwhelming.
                                         
                                        So mega massive evil so completely given over to death that the average
                                         
                                        person can't even basically see it because it's so alien to their nature, to
                                         
                                        their fundamental nature of being good people.
                                         
                                        So you can't see the globalist because they're too evil.
                                         
                                        That's his explanation.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        That's really dumb.
                                         
    
                                        No, that makes perfect sense.
                                         
                                        I can conceive of a lot of fucking evil shit.
                                         
                                        I can imagine terrible plans.
                                         
                                        But you are awake, Dan.
                                         
                                        You listen to infowars.
                                         
                                        That's true.
                                         
                                        See, this is the problem.
                                         
                                        Even though I mean, me, I can't
                                         
    
                                        conceive of the globalists.
                                         
                                        I think it's insane.
                                         
                                        I think it's too crazy.
                                         
                                        It's too far beyond me because I am a generally good person.
                                         
                                        I'm honest.
                                         
                                        So also a straight shooter.
                                         
                                        This is as good governments.
                                         
                                        Listen to me.
                                         
    
                                        This is as good a time as any for me to reveal that I've started reading the
                                         
                                        books that Alex talks about that are like the foundational pieces of his
                                         
                                        cosmology.
                                         
                                        And like I've already read none dare call it a conspiracy and it's fucking
                                         
                                        stupid.
                                         
                                        Of course, it's absolute utter garbage.
                                         
                                        And complete misunderstanding.
                                         
                                        Is it a fun read though?
                                         
    
                                        Nope.
                                         
                                        Oh, it's not even that great.
                                         
                                        Very dry.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        He also talks about Zbigniew Brzezinski a lot and I've read most of the
                                         
                                        great chess board.
                                         
                                        Was he the was he like the Secretary of State for a Carter?
                                         
                                        Maybe.
                                         
    
                                        I want to say.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it was Carter.
                                         
                                        That's one.
                                         
                                        It only Carter would pick a non white male male American name.
                                         
                                        He's white.
                                         
                                        No, I know, but his name is Zbigniew.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        That's true.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        So I've read part of Reagan's picking Paul or Derek Reagan's not
                                         
                                        picking as a big new big new Brzezinski I've read parts of the
                                         
                                        great chess board and I'll get to reading all of it eventually.
                                         
                                        But Alex has complained a lot about the book the technotronic era.
                                         
                                        And it's interesting because it's not at all what he talks about.
                                         
                                        It's about the band.
                                         
                                        Yep.
                                         
    
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        It's about the polyphonic spree.
                                         
                                        It predicts they're coming.
                                         
                                        It's actually called between two ages America's place in the
                                         
                                        technotronic era.
                                         
                                        And first of all, I fucking love the book from the jump because
                                         
                                        it opens with a Steppenwolf quote, which is my favorite book
                                         
                                        and like Zbigniew.
                                         
    
                                        You kidding me?
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        So it's I'm not quite done with the book yet and it could take
                                         
                                        a harsh turn in the last chapter.
                                         
                                        But so far what it's about is it was written back in the 60s and
                                         
                                        it's about how technology is going to be super important in
                                         
                                        terms of modernization and the world.
                                         
    
                                        So he's off to a great start.
                                         
                                        And a large chunk of the book is talking about how developing
                                         
                                        countries and the burgeoning markets what have you are going
                                         
                                        to have a really difficult time keeping up with the technology
                                         
                                        because in order to modernize generally you need stability.
                                         
                                        That's mostly it's not saying we need to keep them unstable.
                                         
                                        So they won't develop like what Obama said what Alex thinks
                                         
                                        Obama said it's more it's more lamenting the impossibility or
                                         
    
                                        the unlikelihood of countries even like India.
                                         
                                        If you looked at it from the 60s, they didn't look like they
                                         
                                        had a very good chance of catching up with the rest of the
                                         
                                        world and they're still struggling to catch up.
                                         
                                        But they're doing a lot better job of it than Zbigniew could
                                         
                                        have predicted.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        But yeah.
                                         
    
                                        No Zbigniew he just died recently.
                                         
                                        Yeah he did.
                                         
                                        But yeah by by all the accounts that I've read he was actually
                                         
                                        a pretty pretty good dude.
                                         
                                        And again I haven't finished the book.
                                         
                                        It could take a real hard turn.
                                         
                                        But I so far I'm finding Alex probably doesn't understand what
                                         
                                        he's reading.
                                         
    
                                        I think that there's probably like you even mentioned earlier
                                         
                                        the schizoid tendencies where he thinks everyone's pointing at
                                         
                                        him and maybe they are laughing at him or maybe he imagines it.
                                         
                                        Yeah or in this case and in his reality it doesn't matter
                                         
                                        whether it's real or imagined to him.
                                         
                                        No it is real.
                                         
                                        And so he's reading this book and he's like they're fucking
                                         
                                        with me.
                                         
    
                                        He's reading the book.
                                         
                                        I'm sure he's like oh this is the globalist plan and I'm the
                                         
                                        one who can see it through this because everyone else who reads
                                         
                                        this doesn't understand evil enough.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        They can't conceive of the idea that he's writing about this
                                         
                                        this sort of other weather based technology.
                                         
                                        But it's in code.
                                         
    
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        And he has to he has to say that you know otherwise people would
                                         
                                        be like what we got to tear him down.
                                         
                                        But he's signaling to his other globalist cohorts.
                                         
                                        Wink globalist.
                                         
                                        This is our next way to you know.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        And yeah of course well fuck we wouldn't even get Godzilla for
                                         
    
                                        another 10 years or whatever.
                                         
                                        So no the first one was like in the 50s.
                                         
                                        Oh that's right.
                                         
                                        It was one of the Raymond Burr.
                                         
                                        I forgot about that.
                                         
                                        I'm sorry.
                                         
                                        No the Raymond Burr one was the that was the American remake of
                                         
                                        the original.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Because they had to make it more palatable and we didn't need
                                         
                                        to be the bad guys.
                                         
                                        No we can't be the bad guys.
                                         
                                        So that's that's I apologize that was a little more extended
                                         
                                        than I intended it to be.
                                         
                                        But I am fascinated by reading all these texts of like where
                                         
    
                                        does he get these ideas from and finding out they don't match
                                         
                                        up with what he's referencing.
                                         
                                        I love the the promise of this podcast is you and I will get
                                         
                                        to laugh at Alex Jones in person and instead we got Zabignu
                                         
                                        Brzezinski's book and not that clips of him reading it or
                                         
                                        anything like that.
                                         
                                        You just giving us a rundown and I still haven't finished.
                                         
                                        So so policy walks out there.
                                         
    
                                        Go ahead and look forward to the second half of the Zabignu
                                         
                                        Brzezinski book report.
                                         
                                        I fully talk to the fact that the next installment could be
                                         
                                        like holy shit he was right all the odds of that are infinitesimal
                                         
                                        very low very low there is an outside chance I will be
                                         
                                        reporting back Alex Jones is fucking right you guys we have
                                         
                                        got to run but for now it's time to get to the results of Alex
                                         
                                        Jones's soul searching yes and I'm going to call this hints of
                                         
    
                                        a heel turn.
                                         
                                        Ooh so what do they do when info wars dot com and prison
                                         
                                        planet dot com my reporters and writers and myself have been
                                         
                                        chronicling this for 20 years.
                                         
                                        The globalists and others before us well they just come out
                                         
                                        and they misrepresent what we're saying what we're doing and
                                         
                                        they've done the same thing with Donald Trump now this weekend
                                         
                                        and then throughout the week I watched hours of Donald Trump
                                         
    
                                        videos on CNN NBC Fox News the lengthy 20 30 minute interviews
                                         
                                        he does I did not read anything no but I would also like to
                                         
                                        point out that if he's actually watching hours of the footage
                                         
                                        then he has to have watched the interviews where he says kill
                                         
                                        terrorists families yeah he has to say has to have watched
                                         
                                        the videos where he says we should have stolen oil from
                                         
                                        countries yeah as war plunder we have to have watched all of
                                         
                                        the interviews where he says that Putin is a great guy you
                                         
    
                                        know talking about how great Putin is Alex Jones now by
                                         
                                        virtue of the fact that you've watched hours of those interviews
                                         
                                        you have to be aware of those things and if you're okay with
                                         
                                        them then you're okay with all that and that's not good for
                                         
                                        you.
                                         
                                        Well I mean it's the same it's the same opportunism that gets
                                         
                                        us to where we are it is that that whole idea of I will deal
                                         
                                        with well just just the British election hold off hold off
                                         
    
                                        because we don't know where he's going to land on this you know
                                         
                                        I know but this is this is that this is that signal okay wait
                                         
                                        are you saying he's not going to land where we think he's going
                                         
                                        to I don't know where he's going to land I haven't listened to
                                         
                                        this yet you son of a bitch I sincerely don't think it's going
                                         
                                        to go exactly the way you think okay well let's listen this
                                         
                                        and then I'll see if my point is still valid alright and I went
                                         
                                        back into research on Donald Trump.
                                         
    
                                        He has supported assault weapons bands he has supported Democrats
                                         
                                        more than Republicans in the past.
                                         
                                        He does own casinos and I'm not judging him I'm a libertarian
                                         
                                        you're you can do that I don't think it should be illegal but
                                         
                                        I have a right to say I think it's degenerate you also say
                                         
                                        most people tied yeah I'm not a gambler so you know I mean I've
                                         
                                        been to Vegas for a video shoots before and gone to a roulette
                                         
                                        wheel played some back blackjack one money lost money the last
                                         
    
                                        time he started talking about that he was like I've played some
                                         
                                        poker but that's a whole different thing that's really
                                         
                                        the only gambling I do yeah and now this time yeah I've been
                                         
                                        to Vegas and I played a lot of roulette and also the last time
                                         
                                        he was like people who run casinos or predators yeah yeah Trump
                                         
                                        is basically with a name like Trump you don't get arrested
                                         
                                        with one like Genevieve exactly he said that he's the frontman
                                         
                                        for a consortium on the East Coast he's not really rich all
                                         
    
                                        that stuff but as a libertarian it's his right to say that
                                         
                                        yeah so let's continue and it's his right to then lie about
                                         
                                        watching the people they're totally in enamored in a cult I
                                         
                                        thought was sick and knowing that I was being chumped it's
                                         
                                        kind of like I smoke marijuana a couple times a year to actually
                                         
                                        see what the latest stuff does because I like it so fucking
                                         
                                        stupid five or six times I've gambled was so I could experience
                                         
                                        it true experimentation and I can tell you I don't like marijuana
                                         
    
                                        and I don't like gambling that doesn't mean you should be
                                         
                                        thrown in jail for marijuana it doesn't mean you should be
                                         
                                        stopped under chocolate but I'm kind of digressing here I've
                                         
                                        done deep research into Trump and I think he is a self-made
                                         
                                        person I think he's very articulate very charismatic very
                                         
                                        smart no about 95 when he says bomb the oil fields that's
                                         
                                        common sense I said that a year and a half ago took over I
                                         
                                        said but our government wants them to have those oil fields
                                         
    
                                        it's a proxy army of Saudi Arabia so see if Trump went further
                                         
                                        like Rand Paul and said that then I would really supporting
                                         
                                        Rand Paul is better but Rand Paul should be turning up the
                                         
                                        heat and being a little more like Trump he should be yes quite
                                         
                                        frankly as radical as Trump because Trump's not being radical
                                         
                                        and Gary Johnson I want to get back on the show get back to
                                         
                                        Gary Johnson in a second so our problem our problem is
                                         
                                        basically Rand Paul isn't big enough to be president will
                                         
    
                                        know it's that Rand Paul isn't crazy enough publicly and Trump
                                         
                                        isn't crazy enough in his position if you could just get
                                         
                                        both of those crazies together then you'd have a candidate
                                         
                                        and we'd have the whole thing meanwhile let's remember a couple
                                         
                                        weeks ago he was saying I am Rand Paul or bust maybe Ted
                                         
                                        Cruz yeah so so we're we're smoothing the way out but he's
                                         
                                        mad at Gary Johnson he's going to get into that former New
                                         
                                        Mexico governor has probably been in studio five six times
                                         
    
                                        probably been on 15 times and I really disagree with his
                                         
                                        political points trying to get saying that Trump is catering
                                         
                                        to racist effect will put the actual quote on screen is
                                         
                                        him yeah here it is I am is appealing to racist voters says
                                         
                                        former New Mexico governor Gary Johnson I don't want to have
                                         
                                        anything to do with it Johnson it's embarrassing to me
                                         
                                        and you got Jeb Bush everybody else saying the same thing
                                         
                                        embarrassing to say the illegal aliens have a lot of hardcore
                                         
    
                                        criminals amongst them and they're committing crimes and
                                         
                                        Mexico is dumping its criminals on us that's what Cuba did
                                         
                                        that's what areas of Eastern Europe it's a fact
                                         
                                        and again it's this attack on reality so I'll say this yes
                                         
                                        I'm going to give Donald Trump the benefit of the doubt
                                         
                                        no because he hasn't backed off and he has lost some money
                                         
                                        and lost some TV shows over this I don't understand why that's
                                         
                                        okay money now we don't want to lose this country
                                         
    
                                        and it's good to see an old-fashioned a patriotic Yankee
                                         
                                        like Donald Trump and a guy like that could unify this
                                         
                                        country the problem is I don't trust him as far as I could
                                         
                                        throw him but he's got to be given the benefit of the doubt
                                         
                                        because he's saying what the other Republicans won't so I'm
                                         
                                        going to stop attacking Donald Trump I've warned but that said
                                         
                                        he's better than anything else we see right now so what he's
                                         
                                        saying has to be supported and defended thank you for listening
                                         
    
                                        it's more important than the man it's the idea but I think
                                         
                                        he's going to betray us that's what my gut tells me in spite
                                         
                                        he's never wrong that's so convoluted maybe he's maybe
                                         
                                        his gut was right this time yeah maybe but like isn't that
                                         
                                        that wild that's Alex is out that is out but he can't play it
                                         
                                        now oh he could totally play it now if he's listen to our show
                                         
                                        he knew it the whole time he can play that he can be like
                                         
                                        listen I got I got betrayed I got seduced by yeah yeah his
                                         
    
                                        ideas were right but he's not following through on those
                                         
                                        ideas I told you guys at the beginning my gut told me that
                                         
                                        he was going to betray us because he's a secret Democrat
                                         
                                        and all of this shit I legit got the move I got the move
                                         
                                        Trump is a globalist I legitimately think that he's too
                                         
                                        far to do that after what was it the middle of January early
                                         
                                        February where he said I would die for Trump yeah that one's
                                         
                                        trouble I think he's gone too far he can't play that card
                                         
    
                                        now but do you like that statement is fucked up because
                                         
                                        he's like I listen to all these videos which should have made
                                         
                                        him be like whoa this guy's nuts no instead he's like oh
                                         
                                        he's crazy but I like that crazy all right look I know he's
                                         
                                        mobbed up I know all this bad shit about him I'm going to
                                         
                                        stop attacking him I'm going to give him the benefit of the
                                         
                                        doubt and body is probably going to betray you can't say I
                                         
                                        don't trust him as far as I can throw him but I'm going to give
                                         
    
                                        him the benefit of the doubt trust but verify that's not a
                                         
                                        good idea it's not you shouldn't if you if you don't give it
                                         
                                        look if you don't trust people don't give him the benefit of
                                         
                                        the doubt they're usually going to screw you because that's
                                         
                                        how you get murdered right or you like hey I don't trust you
                                         
                                        in that car you seem creepy but you did offer me a ride my gut
                                         
                                        tells me you're going to murder me but I'm going to give you
                                         
                                        the benefit of the doubt it's not necessarily in this case how
                                         
    
                                        you get murdered but it is how you lose your Google ads
                                         
                                        definitely that so Alex now is at this point where he said a
                                         
                                        whole bunch of stuff about Trump up till this point now he
                                         
                                        makes this proclamation and he stops talking about Trump I
                                         
                                        think that was my prediction from the beginning it's the
                                         
                                        first debate whenever those guys start dropping out I don't
                                         
                                        know Trump pulls the super male vitality moves standing in
                                         
                                        the middle just sitting there you're a prick I hate you you
                                         
    
                                        know like that kind of bullshit right down super male vitality
                                         
                                        because we're going to get back to it do I need to write it
                                         
                                        down yeah it's stamped all over my heart you do because we're
                                         
                                        going to get back to it at the end of this episode in a very
                                         
                                        weird way is there any other way to get back to super male
                                         
                                        vitality nope so throughout the rest of this episode that we're
                                         
                                        going to be going over up until July 21st I believe is where we
                                         
                                        cut off he doesn't really talk about Trump much at all what
                                         
    
                                        is he talking about that we're going to get into it because
                                         
                                        it seems like especially at that time whenever Trump was
                                         
                                        rising through and everybody was shocked by it that's all
                                         
                                        everybody was talking about well he talks he has an interview
                                         
                                        with Jerome Corsi at one point which is really boring and
                                         
                                        Jerome Corsi says maybe he's real this time so there's that
                                         
                                        they talked about that I didn't pull a clip of that because
                                         
                                        it's it doesn't matter they're so fucking stupid around the 19th
                                         
    
                                        or 20th somewhere in there was when Trump made the claims
                                         
                                        about John McCain when he's like I like heroes who don't get
                                         
                                        captured yep that sort of shit and Alex his response to that
                                         
                                        is didn't go far enough because Alex believes that as I'll use
                                         
                                        his quote John McCain was a trustee at the Hanoi Hilton he
                                         
                                        makes the claim that John McCain was never tortured and in fact
                                         
                                        was given pleasure women and fancy meals at the Hanoi Hilton
                                         
                                        what's yeah he says it's mainstream news so what you're
                                         
    
                                        saying what Alex is saying is that the reason John can't raise
                                         
                                        his arms above his head is he got fucked too hard he blew out
                                         
                                        his obliques he got fucked so hard he's paralyzed now more
                                         
                                        that's what we're saying yeah okay I did try and look into that
                                         
                                        I can't find any verification of that I did find an article on
                                         
                                        WorldNet daily but it had no sourcing no like references at
                                         
                                        all I found one article that I don't know if I can trust or
                                         
                                        not that purported to be from somebody who was captured along
                                         
    
                                        the same time as him and it doesn't say that he wasn't
                                         
                                        tortured it was just saying that maybe he exaggerated right
                                         
                                        story yeah kind of a thing and that there were a lot of people
                                         
                                        who were there and his experience is no more severe than any one
                                         
                                        of the other and which is the point and I think that even John
                                         
                                        McCain would own up to that yeah and I think he has he's like
                                         
                                        hey we were in a fucking torture camp yeah everybody got
                                         
                                        tortured so that's that's where Alex stands on Trump now
                                         
    
                                        this is fun is immediately after this on the episode he has
                                         
                                        an interview with Jesse Ventura Ventura comes back and they
                                         
                                        talk some more bullshit about his case but I've just decided to
                                         
                                        cut all of that out because in this clip Jesse Ventura talks
                                         
                                        some fucking hard truth about Trump oh really that is nice
                                         
                                        and Alex can't really handle oh boy and it starts to give you
                                         
                                        the indication that now is whenever he's starting to turn
                                         
                                        Trump into his boy he's starting to feel the need to defend him
                                         
    
                                        but he can't he can't especially not to Jesse Ventura right
                                         
                                        because Jesse Ventura makes sense so elaborate on where you
                                         
                                        stand on the Donald Trump situation well first of all you
                                         
                                        know if Mexicans come up here illegals and get on our welfare
                                         
                                        system if indeed they do that then blame the people who created
                                         
                                        a system that allows that to happen which is your Democrats
                                         
                                        and Republicans wow that's a good plan if they were able to do
                                         
                                        that and I don't know if they are or not but if they're able to
                                         
    
                                        do that blame the system that allows it to happen instead of
                                         
                                        blaming the poor person second of all I get irritated because
                                         
                                        I'm off the grid down there I live 900 miles in Mexico and
                                         
                                        whenever somebody with the statue of Donald Trump makes a
                                         
                                        statement like he has believe me we as Americans down there
                                         
                                        feel the repercussions of that all of a sudden Mexican people
                                         
                                        stare at us all of a sudden you know a hassle start happening
                                         
                                        maybe the federalies pull you over more whatever it might be
                                         
    
                                        but it does nobody any good because what Donald Trump is
                                         
                                        saying does nothing but anger Mexican people because you can't
                                         
                                        paint them in a broad brush certainly there's criminals in
                                         
                                        Mexico just like there are criminals here we ought to talk
                                         
                                        about the fact that we have more people in jail than in the
                                         
                                        world sure so therefore don't we have the most criminals well
                                         
                                        Jesse I mean I agree with your point that we shouldn't blame
                                         
                                        the TSA we should blame our Congress that's not the point
                                         
    
                                        that Jesse that is definitely not the point that he just made
                                         
                                        Alex can't at all wrestle with with the point that he just
                                         
                                        made which is completely fucking valid yeah so he's like oh
                                         
                                        yeah don't blame the TSA that was not no he said don't blame
                                         
                                        the immigrants who were exploiting the system blame the
                                         
                                        system yeah try and don't blame poor people for trying to not
                                         
                                        be poor for fighting for their lives or a less through non
                                         
                                        violent means so he he Alex interprets that that way of course
                                         
    
                                        and that's his response and then Jesse now here's here's my
                                         
                                        here's my question to you yeah how are how are we coming down
                                         
                                        on that because is that Alex understanding the point and
                                         
                                        then deliberately misleading or is that Alex absolutely
                                         
                                        incapable of listening to another human being talk for any
                                         
                                        length of time I think it's the prior you think so yeah you
                                         
                                        think he fully gets that and then he just can't allow that
                                         
                                        to be yeah and like well because I mean even Jesse's point
                                         
    
                                        that he made there is like they have criminals there just like
                                         
                                        we have criminals here we incarcerate the most people in
                                         
                                        the world so therefore don't we have the most criminals right
                                         
                                        because you can't argue with if you're Alex so he has to
                                         
                                        change the argument that's being had right it's a classic
                                         
                                        debate tactic it's it's I mean it's minorly gaslighting
                                         
                                        somebody well absolutely but at the same time it's just
                                         
                                        manipulative and then I'm what's even worse is the idea of
                                         
    
                                        agreeing with somebody on something they didn't say so
                                         
                                        you can move on I really hate that Jesse doesn't call him out
                                         
                                        on it because clearly Jesse has the kind of status with Alex
                                         
                                        that he could do that he doesn't but he makes another great
                                         
                                        point for doing it and then Congress sits around criticizing
                                         
                                        the TSA when they shut it up and control it so so I totally
                                         
                                        agree with you I get your point that said I don't trust Donald
                                         
                                        Trump because he supported assault weapons bans gave money
                                         
    
                                        to Hillary Clinton but I've actually watched his full
                                         
                                        speeches and he said they're not sending their good people
                                         
                                        that have money in many cases that are illegals he says a lot
                                         
                                        of more criminals fleeing justice then the media said
                                         
                                        Donald Trump says Mexicans are crooks so I think some of
                                         
                                        that is the media spinning things to make it worse well
                                         
                                        that may be true too because you know as we both know the
                                         
                                        media is in the entertainment business and the more entertainment
                                         
    
                                        spin they can throw on anything sells copy you know look at
                                         
                                        the trash they give us on TV and make us work on things that
                                         
                                        are completely irrelevant I agree but just real quick you
                                         
                                        personally have seen a backlash in the last month and a half
                                         
                                        from the Trump thing have I well have I personally to me yes
                                         
                                        no other than people know that I know Donald and they'll ask
                                         
                                        me and I just say look I don't answer for Donald but I think
                                         
                                        what he's saying is utterly preposterous and stupid I said
                                         
    
                                        that you know that to state what he states I don't think I
                                         
                                        do you know to have a president that would say things like
                                         
                                        that about people of another country you know that's not
                                         
                                        very good diplomacy in my opinion now I hear your point
                                         
                                        overall the problem is you and I share the Baja a lot of
                                         
                                        Mexico has collapsed do you and so that is a larger problem I
                                         
                                        wish Mexico well but do you Alex so but you hear that like
                                         
                                        Jesse just made some great points and also another thing
                                         
    
                                        that's really interesting to point out that they don't get
                                         
                                        into is that Alex is also in the entertainment business I was
                                         
                                        going to say like there might as well have been like a giant
                                         
                                        sign directly above Alex Jones saying I'm entertaining like
                                         
                                        it's this is about you yeah exactly but then his way of
                                         
                                        getting out of the first thing that Jesse says is to pretend
                                         
                                        it's the TSA right and then the way of getting out of the
                                         
                                        second point that he makes is to say you live in a nice area
                                         
    
                                        yeah you're not experiencing the Mexico that Donald is talking
                                         
                                        about so you wouldn't know most so even though I trust you
                                         
                                        listen you're wrong on this one but I'm not going to say it
                                         
                                        like you're wrong I'm just gonna be like hey you wouldn't know
                                         
                                        yeah so anyway that's almost like I am saying because you
                                         
                                        don't have that personal experience you perhaps don't
                                         
                                        understand the entirety of their experience well Jesse can't
                                         
                                        conceive of the evil of globalists apparently right even
                                         
    
                                        though he's been the governor of a state that globalist
                                         
                                        governor of the state maybe maybe got kicked out by the
                                         
                                        globalist but that's like that right there is why we still
                                         
                                        like Jesse Ventura like he has problems yes he's not always
                                         
                                        right he clearly was fucking around with that lawsuit stuff
                                         
                                        yeah he was misleading people but he can come with stuff like
                                         
                                        that or it's like hey good call man that was pretty much right
                                         
                                        on yeah you know what I haven't even heard I I don't think I'd
                                         
    
                                        ever ever or I don't I don't think I've ever heard somebody
                                         
                                        make that very simple logical argument there which is we
                                         
                                        imprison the most people so we have the most criminals yeah
                                         
                                        that's your that's your argument if you're worried about
                                         
                                        criminals you don't want Americans coming to your place
                                         
                                        no and then it's sort of a secondary aspect of that
                                         
                                        argument which is always true you don't want Americans coming
                                         
                                        anywhere and let's say white people let's your friends then
                                         
    
                                        you want our science yes take our scientists the the secondary
                                         
                                        aspect of that argument too if you really want to go with it
                                         
                                        is that we have people in prison for bullshit charges so even
                                         
                                        the definition of what a criminal is is kind of stupid
                                         
                                        exactly so and the idea the other thing about that is once
                                         
                                        if that's that's the brand now it's not it's not you committed
                                         
                                        a crime it's that you're a criminal and you're always a
                                         
                                        criminal well you're always going to be a criminal and even
                                         
    
                                        if you're even if you're escaping your life where you were
                                         
                                        a criminal because I don't know one of the Mexican cartels had
                                         
                                        you and the only way to get out of there was by running away
                                         
                                        otherwise they were going to murder you yeah you committed
                                         
                                        a crime so you're always you're never entitled to do your best
                                         
                                        to not be a criminal once you're a jet you're a jet all the
                                         
                                        way exactly so this next clip is really weird Alex is kind of
                                         
                                        mad that people are like these insurers and hospitals are
                                         
    
                                        refusing to treat veterans but they'll treat illegal immigrants
                                         
                                        oh boy and so he has a weird fucking theory about it that
                                         
                                        even internally doesn't make sense okay like even the words
                                         
                                        he's saying if you grant that the beginning of it is true the
                                         
                                        middle can't hear oh just listen to this oh but if you're
                                         
                                        illegal you get the surgery or you get to have your baby for
                                         
                                        free and we're not against these people but why is it free
                                         
                                        for them and not for the vets who've earned it because the
                                         
    
                                        vets are already here and they're done with you they want new
                                         
                                        people because we aborted 50 plus million of our kids so we do
                                         
                                        need new people here so some security doesn't collapse but
                                         
                                        they're not even doing that they're already rated social
                                         
                                        security that's true I mean these are facts so so he thinks
                                         
                                        a fact he thinks a fact is that we're we're paying for illegal
                                         
                                        immigrants babies to be born in the United States because
                                         
                                        we've accidentally aborted too many of our own babies right
                                         
    
                                        and so the only way for social security to prop up is by illegal
                                         
                                        immigrants babies but but we need to kick those babies out but
                                         
                                        we've also already rated so it's so convoluted it's so
                                         
                                        insane I don't even know where to like poke it you know it's
                                         
                                        one of those it's like a weird blob them is like I know I got
                                         
                                        a well I mean veterans veterans are not treated well no that's
                                         
                                        a big problem certainly why are you not focused on them why
                                         
                                        is your why is your anger not why is your anger like just like
                                         
    
                                        the Jesse Ventura thing if like we have the most criminals so
                                         
                                        let's blame blame the system yeah don't blame the poor people
                                         
                                        don't blame the illegal immigrant who has to have her baby
                                         
                                        here because she can't afford it anywhere else blame the system
                                         
                                        that is keeping the veterans from getting coverage and keeping
                                         
                                        the veterans from being help might be a good plan why wouldn't
                                         
                                        you do that I want to take a moment to give Alex some credit
                                         
                                        because even though he does do it in dumb ways that rely on
                                         
    
                                        globalists and shit he does speak a lot about how veterans
                                         
                                        aren't treated well and he has a he has a good point there
                                         
                                        yeah now that's absolutely true now the idea that it's some
                                         
                                        sort of elaborate plot by evil globalists is stupid it is
                                         
                                        just but what is it everybody wants the veterans to be taken
                                         
                                        care of nobody wants to pay for veterans to be taken care of
                                         
                                        right right and everybody wants health care nobody wants to
                                         
                                        pay for health care right it's the it's the the budgeting is
                                         
    
                                        so much on the front end as opposed to the back end right
                                         
                                        it's all we pay for the war but we won't pay to take care of
                                         
                                        people of course and that's not a globalist plot that's just
                                         
                                        people in congress being fucking stupid and that's the way
                                         
                                        every craven that's the way every military is always worked
                                         
                                        now every standing military really speaking now we want you
                                         
                                        to fight we don't give a fuck once you're done there Jordan
                                         
                                        I told you earlier that the show is going to end with a curve
                                         
    
                                        ball is it going to end with a curve ball jade helms started
                                         
                                        the day before this yes now Alex Jones has a statement he
                                         
                                        wants to make about jade helms he throws they've been called
                                         
                                        so they've tripled and quadrupled and quintupled and
                                         
                                        infinities down with lies and so now as I told you I said when
                                         
                                        jade helms starts the 15th you are going to see them everywhere
                                         
                                        say the laughable not Alex has been discredited jade helm was
                                         
                                        not martial law nothing happened when we never said it was
                                         
    
                                        going to do that it was further conditioning and they will
                                         
                                        just sit there and assault their audience with fraud
                                         
                                        now I can't prove what he did or did not say in the past I
                                         
                                        can't do that because I'm not going back through more episodes
                                         
                                        than I need to we may do that investigation sometime down
                                         
                                        the line okay but it would be hard for me to pinpoint when
                                         
                                        he started talking about jade helm that would be very
                                         
                                        difficult to get the timeline on but what I can do is tell you
                                         
    
                                        that at the end of this episode he gets a caller from Alabama
                                         
                                        who we were we're already off to a great start he love random
                                         
                                        info wars callers from Alabama I'm sure there's a lot of
                                         
                                        insight coming from there so Alex on this very show has
                                         
                                        said that people are going to lie and say that jade helm I
                                         
                                        say that jade helm is somehow real yeah and people taking
                                         
                                        over right and they're and they're doing that on purpose
                                         
                                        they're conditioning you to believe that it's never going
                                         
    
                                        to be martial law and then whenever it's not this time
                                         
                                        they can turn me into the boy who cried wolf and that means
                                         
                                        that you'll be even more of a sheep the next time that means
                                         
                                        you'll be ready you'll be primed whenever they're going to do
                                         
                                        it now one very important thing to keep in mind for those of
                                         
                                        you who didn't keep up with jade helm conspiracy theories one
                                         
                                        of the big things that the internet was going wild on is
                                         
                                        claiming that there were a bunch of walmarts that had been
                                         
    
                                        closed down and there were secret tunnels for military and
                                         
                                        UN forces to go under that they were going to use them as like
                                         
                                        depot points because they're giant buildings and they're
                                         
                                        inconspicuous when they're closed so all of these walmarts
                                         
                                        and closed down like oh fuck they're using them there's
                                         
                                        tunnels there so that was a big part of that stuff Alex
                                         
                                        that's one of those things that if you're a conspiracy
                                         
                                        theorist seems like a great plan you're like oh that's genius
                                         
    
                                        I know how genius that is but then if you're actually trying
                                         
                                        to do it logistically you're like this is a dumb fucking
                                         
                                        plan we have roads I can just use roads I can only come out
                                         
                                        of inner out of these tunnels at a walmart yeah what why would
                                         
                                        we do that so now the reason that I bring that up is because
                                         
                                        walmart will play into this caller and let's see how Alex
                                         
                                        responds to this caller it's now John in Alabama finish your
                                         
                                        point you said you were you said you're there in Alabama
                                         
    
                                        outside the air base and there's just troops suddenly with
                                         
                                        name tags off everywhere yeah that's what's happening that's
                                         
                                        part of jade helm that is in Alabama they expanded it to
                                         
                                        Alabama was seven states is now 10 and it's just I mean I see
                                         
                                        it myself I couldn't reckon get video of it but I was in
                                         
                                        San Marcos I stayed doing an investigation working on and I
                                         
                                        saw a black in wrap driving the other side of the road and
                                         
                                        then I saw homeland security people in blue uniforms walking
                                         
    
                                        out of a gas station when I was getting gas and they knew I
                                         
                                        was by the way and saw me and kind of like this and got
                                         
                                        their vehicle into a lot of details for him to be telling
                                         
                                        the truth on this one also he said that he couldn't get a
                                         
                                        video of that car on the road without crashing you could have
                                         
                                        taken a picture of these guys at a gas station they would have
                                         
                                        been simple Alex you want to just you could have your
                                         
                                        station area would be no problem homeland security in
                                         
    
                                        blue uniforms is the beginning of any lie right anytime if
                                         
                                        there's a color involved hmm he's making it up yep well
                                         
                                        let's see I'm not kidding I mean as soon as I looked over
                                         
                                        the gas thing and these people are getting their car that
                                         
                                        was two older guys with you know with short beards they
                                         
                                        just went well that's Alex Jones we are just overrun with
                                         
                                        DHS so so tell us what you saw in Walmart.
                                         
                                        Okay, you know I'm I've always been a top of God my
                                         
    
                                        home business you know until all this stuff started I get it
                                         
                                        I get it just a regular down what you say and it affects me
                                         
                                        as an American citizen and you know I was raised on patriotic
                                         
                                        beliefs to stand for and uphold the Constitution because
                                         
                                        all the men in my family were in the military and I'm in
                                         
                                        Walmart the other night down here but it was real close to
                                         
                                        one o'clock in the morning if it wasn't one o'clock in the
                                         
                                        morning. Okay fine what'd you say? I'm walking through there
                                         
    
                                        and I see these two guys in black suits and they've got
                                         
                                        other guys around talking to a Walmart manager. Now hold on
                                         
                                        two guys in black suits talking to a manager clearly something
                                         
                                        nefarious. Two guys in black suits I'm thinking it's the
                                         
                                        men in black. They're calling me biased but when I see the
                                         
                                        black black suits coming I nod my head. Black suits coming
                                         
                                        nod your head. That's the theme for men in black too. I know
                                         
                                        all right and I won't pass and you know people can tell me I'm
                                         
    
                                        crazy with crap whatever like I try to take a picture except
                                         
                                        myself. They had UN badges on their lapels. The little globe
                                         
                                        with the leaves the same thing on their flag was on their
                                         
                                        lapels. They had ID badges to Fort Rooker. UN personnel like
                                         
                                        they are here in America man. They don't they don't want
                                         
                                        anybody to know. As soon as I tried to take a picture of the
                                         
                                        guy I was tackled to the ground by what I'm assuming is his
                                         
                                        bodyguards arrested by the city police and my phone was taken
                                         
    
                                        and they still haven't got back. All right yeah okay if this
                                         
                                        is true and I believe you look out we're gonna jump on an
                                         
                                        airplane right now. I want you to put your own hold. I want you
                                         
                                        to scan whatever email the arrest the the the the the
                                         
                                        paperwork and we will send reporters up there because you
                                         
                                        know that is just outrageous and sir there are UN troops all
                                         
                                        over the place. They have Russian troops and I heard about
                                         
                                        this years before it was confirmed training to take on
                                         
    
                                        domestic groups. It's all part of secret treaties and the
                                         
                                        treaties are breaking up right now but yes they have Russian
                                         
                                        troops training at secret bases in Denver and Colorado
                                         
                                        Springs. Space even came out and they admitted secrets on
                                         
                                        domestic groups. So it's a global government. It's State
                                         
                                        Department of Random 7277 freedom from war. So I looked
                                         
                                        that up. I read what wait here's the bigger question. How
                                         
                                        does he know the the secret treaties right which that are
                                         
    
                                        breaking up. That's that's my favorite. The secret treaties
                                         
                                        you know the secret treaties course they're in the white
                                         
                                        paper. How does he know they're breaking up. That's in the
                                         
                                        white papers too. But why would they be breaking up if
                                         
                                        everything's still going fine. I don't know. It's so stupid
                                         
                                        how what why throw that little bit the secret treaties which
                                         
                                        are breaking up. You could have just said the secret treaties
                                         
                                        that you've been fine. So you've already made up enough lies
                                         
    
                                        Alex. Yeah. You don't need to further compound it. Take a
                                         
                                        break. So I I looked up the the memorandum that he was talking
                                         
                                        about the freedom from war State Department memorandum 7777
                                         
                                        7479 or it's it was written in September of 1961 and it is
                                         
                                        the freedom for war. The United States program for general
                                         
                                        and complete disarmament for a peaceful world. So it's mostly
                                         
                                        in concern about the rapid growth of post nuclear weapons.
                                         
                                        Yeah. And the insanely rapid growth. So they want whoever
                                         
    
                                        wrote this the people who were behind this memorandum by the
                                         
                                        way memorandum not a not a law. No binding agenda 217727.
                                         
                                        You know what memorandum shortens to memo. Yeah. It's a note.
                                         
                                        It's a little note. It's a note. Yeah. It's not binding 7277.
                                         
                                        So this is basically aspiring towards disarmament. Right.
                                         
                                        And it is if you're crazy it looks bad because it does talk
                                         
                                        about how the end goal is getting rid of armies in every
                                         
                                        country because it isn't that the end goal. I think it is.
                                         
    
                                        Shouldn't that be the end goal. I think it is. If don't we want
                                         
                                        to become a type one civilization. It would be nice.
                                         
                                        Wouldn't that be better for everybody. But the primary piece
                                         
                                        of it is nuclear disarmament. Right. It's talking about these
                                         
                                        technologies that are completely capable of destroying the
                                         
                                        entire world setting us off on a trajectory that we don't even
                                         
                                        know what it would lead to. That's the first step of it and
                                         
                                        then eventually gradual disarmament of armies and creating
                                         
    
                                        peacekeeping organizations that you know will be involved
                                         
                                        with mitigating crises and conflicts between states could
                                         
                                        be hashed out as opposed to war. Right. It's idealistic as
                                         
                                        fuck. Of course. But the one thing that's really important
                                         
                                        about it is it doesn't talk about UN forces hanging out Russian
                                         
                                        secret training or anything like that. And further that in
                                         
                                        secret memo twenty seventy two seventy seven. The first part
                                         
                                        of it is not achieved. You know what I'm saying. A lot of people
                                         
    
                                        still have nukes. So like even you could almost say too many
                                         
                                        nukes. The beginning pieces of it haven't been successfully
                                         
                                        implemented. It's like his fear of that clowered in Piven plan
                                         
                                        that he brings up over and over again. It's like that wasn't
                                         
                                        implemented. You someone wrote about it. Some professor wrote
                                         
                                        that like oh hey if we overwhelmed the welfare system people
                                         
                                        would have to take it more seriously. It's it's fiction.
                                         
                                        Yeah. It's like it's like he's it's like he's saying you know
                                         
    
                                        all this Huxley. He's the one who knew that's what we're living
                                         
                                        in now. I think he would say that. I think he would say that
                                         
                                        too. Yeah. Yeah. But that's that's the point. It's all it's
                                         
                                        all speculative fiction. That's the issue that he just can't
                                         
                                        discern what is like. Do you ever stop and think like oh we
                                         
                                        created all of the weapons necessary to kill all of us and
                                         
                                        we just have them lying around and we have for a long time
                                         
                                        getting old. Yeah. Like there was there's still there's still
                                         
    
                                        nuclear weapons systems that use floppy disks. Yep. And we're
                                         
                                        just fine with that. We're just like yeah this is great. I'm
                                         
                                        sure I'm sure that'll never be a problem. Absolutely. It's
                                         
                                        insane. Yeah. How and the idea that you wouldn't be on board
                                         
                                        with just a vague just like hey maybe let's try and get to a
                                         
                                        point where we're not always on the edge of global destruction.
                                         
                                        I'd need to study this memorandum a little closer in order to
                                         
                                        have like an assessment on it but just from my my read of it
                                         
    
                                        my once through reading I would say it is a great goal but
                                         
                                        it is way too idealistic to work in reality. But yeah I don't
                                         
                                        or in the near future in a general sense taking the memorandum
                                         
                                        out of it. Yeah. Yeah absolutely. Why wouldn't you want war
                                         
                                        to stop. What vested interest other than making money do
                                         
                                        people have in war continuing population control. Oh there you
                                         
                                        go. Yeah dominance. So anyway good cultures versus bad cultures
                                         
                                        Dan National. We don't we don't start wars for any other reason
                                         
    
                                        than to make their culture better nationalism prosperity.
                                         
                                        Yeah that's what it's about. Second Amendment. So second
                                         
                                        amendment. So I have a property. Alex puts him on hold and
                                         
                                        then he has an interview that's really boring with Jerome
                                         
                                        Corsi. Then we do we get him back. Also also whenever he was
                                         
                                        like take to scan the paperwork I was like oh we're not going
                                         
                                        to hear from this fellow again. I'm going to confirm that at
                                         
                                        least as of July 22nd this has not come back up. No and I
                                         
    
                                        guarantee it doesn't ever. Yeah. But he does come back after
                                         
                                        the Jerome Corsi interview and shit gets real. Now John and
                                         
                                        Alabama thank you for holding. If folks just joined us.
                                         
                                        What are you doing living Alabama outside an air base and
                                         
                                        you're in there at Walmart at one in the morning a few days
                                         
                                        ago and they grab you take you to jail but don't charge you
                                         
                                        and say come back later. I've seen that with demonstrators
                                         
                                        before and you were there and there were guys with UN name
                                         
    
                                        tags with a guy in a black uniform and they tackled you
                                         
                                        and the police came and took you to jail. It's not necessarily
                                         
                                        amazing. And if this is true and it isn't it's incredible.
                                         
                                        What else can you tell us about this. What are the police
                                         
                                        Sadie and the squad car was anything else said to you.
                                         
                                        Well Alex I don't know about how censorship is on your shows
                                         
                                        I'm pretty sure I can't quote him verbatim but in a nutshell
                                         
                                        they told me that I asked up but I want to get picture happy
                                         
    
                                        with my iPhone and you know I told him I was just I mean I
                                         
                                        could be wrong but I just I told him I was exercising my
                                         
                                        first amendment right freedom of speech freedom of press
                                         
                                        freedom of assembly and they didn't care like my iPhone is
                                         
                                        probably no more but wait they didn't even give you your
                                         
                                        iPhone. They didn't give you your phone back. No no when when
                                         
                                        I left the city jail they told me that I could pick my iPhone
                                         
                                        up when I picked my paperwork up and you know I'm like you
                                         
    
                                        should go before you went to break earlier. I've been arrested
                                         
                                        a few times. I know the ends out. So you're supposed to be
                                         
                                        formally charged. You're supposed to get paperwork as soon
                                         
                                        as you get kicked loose whether it's you have to pay to get
                                         
                                        out or you get a reconnaissance bond a property bond what
                                         
                                        have you and they give you your property back. Well sir here's
                                         
                                        the deal. I would call the local media and I would say troops
                                         
                                        stole my iPhone at the Walmart. They won't give it back.
                                         
    
                                        That's a news story and if they won't cover it will come up
                                         
                                        there and I'll go in there with a video camera to the police
                                         
                                        department and say give him his iPhone back and let them try
                                         
                                        to arrest me. That's fine if they do but I believe you. I've
                                         
                                        had similar things happen to me. This is incredible. Describe
                                         
                                        these UN troops for us. How are they dressed? What the
                                         
                                        uniforms look like? Where were they in the Walmart? Break it
                                         
                                        down for us. Okay. Um the the men that I saw in the Walmart
                                         
    
                                        uh the the gentlemen that I'm presuming are bodyguards
                                         
                                        because they're the ones that pulled I'm what I'm assuming
                                         
                                        is Glock 17s because that's standard issue sidearm. They
                                         
                                        pulled firearms on you. I really don't know. Yes. Yes. They
                                         
                                        drew down on me in Walmart while there was there was a total
                                         
                                        of six. Four of them drew down on me and covered me while two
                                         
                                        of them took me to the ground. Well, that's impressive and it
                                         
                                        armed armed troops pulled a gun on you. Armed in plain clothes
                                         
    
                                        and I'm assuming that they were protecting the two men in
                                         
                                        the suits with the badges on their lapel and like I didn't
                                         
                                        mean them any harm. You know, I mean, I understand it was
                                         
                                        some type of diplomats or something that think they're
                                         
                                        God. Yeah. Uh so what happened next? Or they're just under
                                         
                                        threat. Uh by raiding hillbillies at one in the morning. No
                                         
                                        resistance at all because I'm we're almost out of time. What
                                         
                                        else happened? What else happened? Okay. Uh well, uh you
                                         
    
                                        know, they detained me and held me on the ground. One of them
                                         
                                        had a knee in my back holding both my hands behind my back
                                         
                                        and I let it go on and then the city police arrived and they
                                         
                                        carted me off to jail and you know, a couple hours later on
                                         
                                        what they said was they were cognizant. You know, I in good
                                         
                                        faith, I'll show you brother. Here's the deal. I'm going to
                                         
                                        send a reporter up there. I believe you. We need to go back
                                         
                                        to Walmart. Recreate it. We need to go to the police
                                         
    
                                        department. This is huge. Armed UN forces tackling and then
                                         
                                        robbing a citizen's iPhone and taking him to jail. This is
                                         
                                        not the behavior of someone who doesn't believe Jade Helm is
                                         
                                        real. Yeah. This is the behavior of someone who's looking
                                         
                                        for a way to believe it's real but knowing without concrete
                                         
                                        evidence, he's going to be made fun of. Yeah. So he gets this
                                         
                                        hillbilly collar on the air. Right. It's clearly lying to
                                         
                                        him. Just beautifully lying. Here's what I would say. Something
                                         
    
                                        is missing from that. Especially because the number of people
                                         
                                        involved keep going up. Does change a little. I saw two guys
                                         
                                        in black suits talking to the man. Oh, there were bodyguards.
                                         
                                        He had a bodyguard. He had a bodyguard. Then it became he
                                         
                                        had bodyguards. Yeah. Then they pulled Glock 17. First they
                                         
                                        took his phone. Then they tackled him. Then they pulled
                                         
                                        guns on him. Yeah. It's so it's nonsense. I believe also the
                                         
                                        fact that he, the fact that he just casually references Glock
                                         
    
                                        17's is like, no, I don't, I don't like that at all. Very
                                         
                                        specific. I don't like that at all. I am not saying that he's
                                         
                                        making something up out of whole cloth, but there's some
                                         
                                        element of the story that's missing. Maybe he was high.
                                         
                                        Well, police did also tell him that he couldn't bring that
                                         
                                        brown bag inside the Walmart. Why the fuck would you be at a
                                         
                                        Walmart at one in the morning if you're not high also? I don't
                                         
                                        know any reason to go. He ran out of socks. He ran out of
                                         
    
                                        socks. He smoked them all. Have you? All right. All right.
                                         
                                        You're unfairly drawing a Alabama hillbillies in a broad
                                         
                                        brush and I'll say boy, howdy, the boys down now in Alabama.
                                         
                                        That's too by you. I don't like that. That's way too by it's
                                         
                                        tougher. It's tough for me to slide right into the south or
                                         
                                        Midwest. Anyway, that's slide right into my DMs. That's it
                                         
                                        for the 16th of the show. Alex invalidates his own claim that
                                         
                                        he's not buying into Jade Helm by buying in real hard for a
                                         
    
                                        random caller. He has been schooled by Jesse Ventura, but
                                         
                                        he's also teased his heel turn about Trump. Yes. It's very
                                         
                                        clear that it's only a matter of time now after July 16th, right
                                         
                                        until he inevitably does get in. And is it just the bigotry?
                                         
                                        Sure seems like it kind of does at this point. It seems like
                                         
                                        really all he's interested in is the fact that Trump says we
                                         
                                        should hate immigrants. Yeah. That's basically all he's pretty
                                         
                                        much. Yeah. So I was going to cut it off at the 16th for this
                                         
    
                                        episode, right? But we have to talk about the 17th. Okay, what
                                         
                                        happened on the 17th? The 17th is one of my favorite Alex Jones
                                         
                                        episodes I've ever listened to. And I will. I'm just going to
                                         
                                        play the beginning of the show and you'll see why. Well, I'm
                                         
                                        going to jump the shark intentionally at the start of the
                                         
                                        next segment. So call your friends and family. What is that
                                         
                                        to tune into the broadcast? We start the next segment in
                                         
                                        exactly seven minutes, 12 seconds from now.
                                         
    
                                        So start the countdown. Get ready. Because seven minutes and
                                         
                                        we are going to be breaking down some information that may
                                         
                                        actually shake a large portions of the population out of their
                                         
                                        mind control. Is that what jumping the shark is? I guess so
                                         
                                        what is jumping the shark? What does he think it means he uses
                                         
                                        fortune favors the bold. He doesn't know what it means. He
                                         
                                        doesn't understand aphorisms. He really doesn't. Unfortunately,
                                         
                                        he does literally jump the shark. Okay. This episode is
                                         
    
                                        embarrassing. Okay. So I don't want to spoil for you what the
                                         
                                        actual jumping of the shark is. I don't understand again, what
                                         
                                        it is we're talking about, but I'm excited to find out. I don't
                                         
                                        know if it's gonna work better if I just spell it out up top.
                                         
                                        No, I want to hear it. I want to hear it cold. Okay, so I have
                                         
                                        split up the actual shark jump into three parts. Preparation
                                         
                                        No, it's six. The buying of water skis motorcycle. Definitely
                                         
                                        got to get a motorcycle there. Yeah. Oh, that's right. It is
                                         
    
                                        the it is water skis. I'm sorry. Yeah, I forgot. It's a it's
                                         
                                        what was it happy days. Yeah, but he also jumped something on
                                         
                                        a motorcycle at some point. They got very into the jumping of
                                         
                                        things. There are six parts to this shark jump. Each one of
                                         
                                        them is held up by a complete bullshit lie. All right. One of
                                         
                                        his tent posts, one of his waypoint stories that he's been
                                         
                                        telling, we haven't really dealt with a lot of the 2015 tent
                                         
                                        posts through the waypoints. So we get to take care of like all
                                         
    
                                        of them in one fell swoop during this shark jumping of the
                                         
                                        shark. It's amazing. Okay, so here we go. We're going to start
                                         
                                        it off with the first clip. This is seven minutes and a couple
                                         
                                        seconds after the last one.
                                         
                                        Terrorists are being used to take our freedoms. Agreed. The
                                         
                                        Patriot Act is used 99 plus percent of the time against
                                         
                                        non terror related cases to overturn the Bill of Rights
                                         
                                        and Constitution. Perfect. Stop there. Now that's political
                                         
    
                                        correctness. All things done. Anything is hurtful to anyone.
                                         
                                        They're saying it's banned. That's totalitarianism. So what we
                                         
                                        need is some strong medicine to force the logical point to
                                         
                                        force the debate to have the controlled trader media attack
                                         
                                        us for making this point and then to have the American
                                         
                                        public have a logical discussion. Now they will take what
                                         
                                        I'm about to say out of context. This is a big announcement.
                                         
                                        How is that an announcement? But it's not done satirically.
                                         
    
                                        It's done at a level of logical discussion. If we're going to
                                         
                                        ban paper bags that are brown in Seattle government because
                                         
                                        someone might be hurt that they're brown bags. No one ever
                                         
                                        said brown bags. Anything to do with racism. They just say it
                                         
                                        that they can ban or restrict. So that's the first way point
                                         
                                        is that they're outlawing brown bags in Seattle. They're not.
                                         
                                        This is based on a memo that a Seattle the Elliott Bronstein
                                         
                                        the chief spokesman for the Seattle Office of Civil Rights
                                         
    
                                        advised the city's public information officers to avoid
                                         
                                        the phrase brown bag and use terms like sack lunch or lunch
                                         
                                        and learn according to a memo which is being widely misreported
                                         
                                        as an order or a ban. Now the reason that he did this was
                                         
                                        okay. I'm just going to read his quote. I assume it has
                                         
                                        something to do with alcohol. No. Oh the this issue came up
                                         
                                        in one of the departments and I thought I'd send it around as
                                         
                                        an FYI for your consideration. The memo reads we often use
                                         
    
                                        the expression brown bag to designate a bring your own
                                         
                                        lunchtime event. We also use the word citizens as a synonym
                                         
                                        for residents innocuous phrases. Right. It went on. Not so
                                         
                                        much for some people the phrase brown bag calls up ugly
                                         
                                        associations with the use of the expression brown bag to
                                         
                                        determine if people's skin color was light enough to allow
                                         
                                        admission to an event or a home. Citizens is a different case.
                                         
                                        We sometimes use it as another way of saying members of the
                                         
    
                                        public except for all the members of the public who aren't
                                         
                                        actually citizens who live and work here. It's basically a
                                         
                                        fucking the chief spokesman for the Office of Civil Rights
                                         
                                        issued a memo to city employees that asked them to be more
                                         
                                        sensitive. Yeah. Because there is a history of it. I've looked
                                         
                                        into it. There is that's not made up. No of course the idea
                                         
                                        of passing you any any anything that any reference to racism
                                         
                                        in American history even if I have no context for it I'll be
                                         
    
                                        like yeah that's probably true. I think that this is probably
                                         
                                        stretching a little bit in terms of the descriptors of this
                                         
                                        bag is brown. Yeah. It's not but at the same time. It's just
                                         
                                        he's just saying you know like the language language is
                                         
                                        important. Be specific with your words. Yeah. That's all
                                         
                                        that's all he's saying. A lot of the times just be more
                                         
                                        specific. Sack lunch is no more difficult to say. It's no less
                                         
                                        descriptive. No. So I mean it's not a ban. It was him being
                                         
    
                                        like hey try and do this. Yep. But at this point the shark
                                         
                                        jump has been described. Also the the plan that he has right
                                         
                                        is so mind bogglingly stupid and we don't even know what
                                         
                                        exactly it is yet. But his plan is going to say what he's what
                                         
                                        he's outlined. His his idea of how this is going to work is
                                         
                                        he's going to say something intentionally fucked up. Yeah.
                                         
                                        So that the media will report on it. Yeah. But even even though
                                         
                                        they even though it's intentionally fucked up they're
                                         
    
                                        going to take him out of context right which boggles the
                                         
                                        mind even further. Well here's what he's trying to do and then
                                         
                                        that will force everyone to come together and have a
                                         
                                        conversation about how stupid the fucked up thing he said
                                         
                                        was. More or less what he's trying to play the Mark Dice
                                         
                                        game on a pro level. Yeah. But what he doesn't realize is the
                                         
                                        Mark Dice game only works because it's a closed loop. You
                                         
                                        don't have any rogue actors in there like the actual media.
                                         
    
                                        So like the media is not going to play along with this the way
                                         
                                        you play along with Mark Dice's reporting and create your
                                         
                                        circle of propaganda. They are going to take it on its face.
                                         
                                        They're going to deal with what you say and be like holy
                                         
                                        shit and we'll get to it and even then they could just go back
                                         
                                        and listen to the first part where he said this is what
                                         
                                        we're going to do. Yeah. Yeah. That is a problem too.
                                         
                                        If you're trying to trick people don't tell people you're
                                         
    
                                        tricking them. Yeah. Yeah. That is a problem. Alex is dumb
                                         
                                        though and it's so fucking hilarious for him. Although then
                                         
                                        again that is Jerome Corsi's plan. Yeah. Yeah totally fair
                                         
                                        enough. It's what they do. Yeah. Okay. This time we're
                                         
                                        actually going to do propaganda. Yeah. Jerome Corsi
                                         
                                        buddy. Maybe you're way past that. I'm going to be paying
                                         
                                        thousands of dollars for people to soy bomb CNN. Yeah. Dude.
                                         
                                        No. All right. Not a propaganda campaign. So campaign he goes
                                         
    
                                        on and like I said I didn't cut anything out. These are just
                                         
                                        segmented. I took a break pretty much whenever he got to one
                                         
                                        of his lies. Seattle Brown bag shit is a complete misrepresentation
                                         
                                        and a lie as we come to expect from Alex. Here's the next one.
                                         
                                        If we're going to tell kids nationwide and public schools
                                         
                                        under no child left behind your purple penguins. You can't be
                                         
                                        a boy or a girl. It might hurt someone that doesn't identify
                                         
                                        as a boy or a girl. If you can't have your identity because
                                         
    
                                        it might hurt someone else. That is the greatest form of
                                         
                                        oppression. Psychologically I could imagine. So he's this is
                                         
                                        another one of his big way points but can't you just can't
                                         
                                        you just for one second turn that around. Like hey if you can't
                                         
                                        have your identity because it hurts somebody else like Alex.
                                         
                                        Yeah. Like maybe think about think about how your identity
                                         
                                        has hurt somebody else a lot or maybe somebody else can't have
                                         
                                        their identity because you don't want to feel bad. You're on
                                         
    
                                        a real interesting tip that Alex is not interested in.
                                         
                                        You cannot you cannot grapple with how is it that you just
                                         
                                        can't grapple with the turn it the other way. Right. It's not
                                         
                                        even it's not even hard. It's super easy. Like if I feel one
                                         
                                        way and I don't like that. What if somebody else who isn't me
                                         
                                        feels that way. It's like if you see the letter A right here.
                                         
                                        Yeah. It's like that's the letter A and then it moves a little
                                         
                                        bit over there. Like what the fuck is that. Yeah exactly.
                                         
    
                                        It's how do you not just take that little step. Yeah. So would
                                         
                                        you like to learn about this way point. Sure. Alex has been
                                         
                                        saying for a really long time. I don't think I've played on
                                         
                                        the show that nationally in schools they're telling kids
                                         
                                        they can't be boys or girls anymore. They have to be purple
                                         
                                        penguins. Yes. That'd be fun. And this is because saying boys
                                         
                                        and girls are hurtful to trans identifying students which
                                         
                                        doesn't make any sense. He's stupid. But here's the thing.
                                         
    
                                        If you look into it this is based on a story out of Lincoln
                                         
                                        Nebraska specifically and there were some materials that were
                                         
                                        provided to teachers by a group called the gender spectrum
                                         
                                        which is an organization whose website states a goal of
                                         
                                        fostering quote gender sensitive and inclusive environment
                                         
                                        for all children and teens. So inside their materials it has
                                         
                                        this I'll just read this quote don't use phrases such as boys
                                         
                                        and girls you guys ladies and gentlemen and similarly gendered
                                         
    
                                        expressions to get kids attention instructs a training
                                         
                                        document given to middle school teachers at the Lincoln public
                                         
                                        schools create a classroom create classroom names and then
                                         
                                        ask all the purple penguins to meet on the rug. The document
                                         
                                        also warns against asking students to line up as boys and
                                         
                                        girls and suggests asking them to line up whether they prefer
                                         
                                        skateboards or bikes milk or juice dogs or cats summer or
                                         
                                        winter talking or listening. Oh do you mean by who you are as
                                         
    
                                        a person as opposed to what you have between your legs. Yeah
                                         
                                        it goes on to say ask yourself always ask yourself will this
                                         
                                        configuration create a gendered space. The document asks I
                                         
                                        think that's actually a very smart thing. Yeah that sounds
                                         
                                        really dumb. What do you mean. I just mean that it's it has
                                         
                                        the ring of like like even well everything that has to do with
                                         
                                        kids is dumb right to adults but that's that no I mean I mean
                                         
                                        that's that angle like I immediately have that knee jerk
                                         
    
                                        reaction of like dudes you're going overboard with this.
                                         
                                        Let's just but that makes perfect sense in though in just in
                                         
                                        a form of education. Yeah just like that idea of we're not
                                         
                                        immediately putting you into your blue and your pink. Yeah
                                         
                                        you're given your choice. Yeah you're like oh I am not a boy
                                         
                                        or a girl. I am somebody who enjoys this. I am a person
                                         
                                        first. Yeah with my own thoughts and feelings and I'm not
                                         
                                        I'm not whatever you tell me I am and I'm allowed to choose
                                         
    
                                        and grow in the way that I want to make sense and the I like
                                         
                                        it the arbitrary specific of purple penguins in that read
                                         
                                        out in that. Yeah that's just little group names. Yeah just
                                         
                                        create you know teams within the classroom and give them
                                         
                                        names. Yeah why not. That's like getting mad at legends of
                                         
                                        the hidden temple. Oh silver monkeys. Yeah exactly very very
                                         
                                        unhappy. Also the shrine of the silver monkey or that one
                                         
                                        we had to put the three pieces of the monkey together. No one
                                         
    
                                        could ever fucking do it. Yeah I remember I screamed at the
                                         
                                        TV about that when I was a kid and then someone made a group
                                         
                                        about it on Facebook like years and years ago. I'm like you
                                         
                                        fucking asshole. Now I can't complain about it. Now it's
                                         
                                        hacky for me to remember that it made me mad. Like God damn
                                         
                                        it. Do you know it's even worse. You can't complain about
                                         
                                        it also because one of the reasons that it was so hard
                                         
                                        for them was because they were shooting for like 12 or 14
                                         
    
                                        hours straight. Oh another reason is most of them weren't
                                         
                                        tall enough to put the head. Yeah so there were many issues
                                         
                                        with legend the hidden temple. So you know people got mad
                                         
                                        about this and by people I mean Alex. Yeah but there's there's
                                         
                                        more. So Brenda Legario the Lincoln public schools coordinator
                                         
                                        for social workers and counselors clarified to the Lincoln
                                         
                                        Journal star after the issue gained widespread attention.
                                         
                                        The materials were provided as guidelines for educators to
                                         
    
                                        better understand gender identity issues and we're not
                                         
                                        intended to impose rules mandating how those issues should
                                         
                                        be addressed. Quote the handouts provided by a staff member
                                         
                                        on a district equity team were meant only for teachers not
                                         
                                        for students or parents she said. Of course and they were
                                         
                                        not meant as rules staff had to follow but as suggestions for
                                         
                                        how teachers can make students feel comfortable. It also
                                         
                                        stresses the impact words can have on others. If there's a
                                         
    
                                        staff member that's uninformed and unsupportive that can be
                                         
                                        a pretty scary that can be pretty scary for a family maybe
                                         
                                        struggling to understand transgender issues themselves.
                                         
                                        So that just sounds like a really good progressive school
                                         
                                        district quite frankly. Do you know what it always brings me
                                         
                                        back to almost all of this almost all of this always winds
                                         
                                        up boiling down into be thoughtful. Right. One of the
                                         
                                        Alex hates them. I'm a huge I like I read I read the Dow
                                         
    
                                        like 10 million times when I was growing up and just one of
                                         
                                        those very simple things was always be mindful be thoughtful
                                         
                                        with your actions. Yeah. Think before you just randomly or
                                         
                                        or you know just like think about how does this make
                                         
                                        somebody else feel first instead of I want to do it so I'm
                                         
                                        going to it's a great idea. I mean it never happens. No no
                                         
                                        so to make matters worse for Alex's narrative the Lincoln
                                         
                                        public school superintendent Steve Joel pushed back against
                                         
    
                                        what he said was a misinformed reaction to the district's
                                         
                                        gender identity training by national commentators and news
                                         
                                        outlets. Right. Quote it's indeed regrettable for the last
                                         
                                        week and a half we've had to dedicate as much staff time
                                         
                                        and resources to address an issue an issue that is not
                                         
                                        founded in fact never once has anyone inside our school
                                         
                                        mandated that a teacher take the words boys or girls or ladies
                                         
                                        and gentlemen out of their interactions with children or
                                         
    
                                        interaction with adults. Of course. This was about adults
                                         
                                        professional educators who care deeply about trying to reach
                                         
                                        and establish relationships with children. They are looking
                                         
                                        at strategies about how to be more effective in the classroom.
                                         
                                        Right. So fuck you Alex you're a liar. Get mad about real shit.
                                         
                                        Why do we always have to. Why do they have to make things up
                                         
                                        to be angry about. But bro that's what I'm talking about.
                                         
                                        That's why this is jumping the shark. He's accidentally doing
                                         
    
                                        what he's parodying. Yeah that's true. He thinks he's doing
                                         
                                        it satirically but he's just he's going overboard on his
                                         
                                        narratives in one chunk. So this next clip he actually jumps
                                         
                                        the shark. Okay. He does the jump that he had prepared. Okay.
                                         
                                        Crazy. And then it ends this clip ends with another lie.
                                         
                                        That's the wildest cult programming that I could ever even
                                         
                                        envision in my mind. Really. Period. There's way better cult
                                         
                                        programming. So to assault these people we have to point out
                                         
    
                                        that what they're doing is unconstitutional. It's tyrannical.
                                         
                                        It's totalitarian. It's oppressive. It's cultic but also
                                         
                                        it can't be selectively enforced. It can't be discriminatory.
                                         
                                        And so our okay. If we have radical Muslims being brought
                                         
                                        in by the hundreds of thousands a year that doesn't everywhere
                                         
                                        from.
                                         
                                        Turkey Saudi Arabia Kuwait.
                                         
                                        Name two more countries areas of northeastern Africa like
                                         
    
                                        Somalia one who are then constantly getting caught trying
                                         
                                        to carry out attacks or who are carrying out attacks against
                                         
                                        soft targets. Well if it's hurtful to people they're doing
                                         
                                        that and if we blame all white people for the shooter in
                                         
                                        Charleston the deranged shooter and if we blame the Confederate
                                         
                                        battle flag for that then I'm calling for all Muslim symbols
                                         
                                        to be removed and I'm calling for all mosque in the United
                                         
                                        States to be shut down and I'm calling for all self identifying
                                         
    
                                        Muslims of any type to be deported to their original
                                         
                                        country of origin even if it was if they've been here 200 years
                                         
                                        I want all Muslims deported now and I want all Muslims to have
                                         
                                        their mosque shut down and their minarets removed and their
                                         
                                        symbols removed and anyone wearing a crescent moon around
                                         
                                        their neck I want them arrested because we've got police showed
                                         
                                        up at swap meets you know saying they're there to arrest people
                                         
                                        selling rebel flags total tyranny hardcore oppression so we'll
                                         
    
                                        get back well then let's see it we'll get back to that rebel
                                         
                                        flag thing in a minute of course well I didn't I didn't think
                                         
                                        he was going to let the rebel flag go the moment the rebel
                                         
                                        flag no I meant I'm going to get back to it but so just to
                                         
                                        sort of dispense with why that argument is really stupid we've
                                         
                                        got a lot of people that are that's that's the dumbest argument
                                         
                                        well but just to lay out is that to lay it out because he thinks
                                         
                                        he's being logical right and he's not there's there's a really
                                         
    
                                        foundational problem with the way he's presenting this and
                                         
                                        that is in order for his argument to make sense then the
                                         
                                        Confederacy or worship of the Confederate flag would have to
                                         
                                        be a federally protected group it would have to be a religion
                                         
                                        in a in a lot of ways that basically is but in order for him
                                         
                                        to make this argument logically sound he actually it does
                                         
                                        work it's just all his premises are wrong like it works as a
                                         
                                        logical like okay yeah I mean it's you're dumb but like it
                                         
    
                                        does strictly work I don't understand how you think it
                                         
                                        works well because well it doesn't because it doesn't have
                                         
                                        to be true for it to actually work logically no he's saying
                                         
                                        he's saying if Muslims attacking people hurt someone and
                                         
                                        if the American or the Confederate flag being hung hurt
                                         
                                        someone we take down symbols of the Confederate flag when a
                                         
                                        Confederate person or someone inspired by the Confederate
                                         
                                        flag hurts people therefore we should take down all symbols
                                         
    
                                        of Muslim people when a person inspired by Islam attacks
                                         
                                        somebody it actually does work strictly speaking in terms of
                                         
                                        A than B B than C C than D I it's stupid but it doesn't it
                                         
                                        doesn't matter I mean is is that is that why
                                         
                                        okay yeah I see where you're coming from you're right it
                                         
                                        is just that the premises are so yeah so stupid well and the
                                         
                                        premises don't they don't it's the difference they're not
                                         
                                        they're not a one to one premise though no it's the
                                         
    
                                        difference between valid and sound when you're talking about
                                         
                                        logic you can have a valid argument that's not sound right
                                         
                                        because it's made up right you in order to have sound arguments
                                         
                                        you need to have true premises that lead to a conclusion it
                                         
                                        needs to be in the proper form and things have to be true you
                                         
                                        can have a valid argument that's not sound if you just have
                                         
                                        bullshit and there you can just have lies but as long as it's
                                         
                                        set up right you right right I get what you're saying truth
                                         
    
                                        can't lead to falsity falsity can lead to truth I got you
                                         
                                        so what you're saying so the thing is like I said the really
                                         
                                        big thing is that in order for you to make this argument and
                                         
                                        make it work you have to put in something that makes the
                                         
                                        Confederacy a which is a rogue failed insurgency basically
                                         
                                        it that has to be exactly the same as a religion and if you
                                         
                                        want to make that argument Alex you can but then you have to
                                         
                                        say a whole bunch of other shit yeah it implies a bunch of
                                         
    
                                        stuff that I don't think he realizes he's implying that
                                         
                                        would be an interesting I mean because it for for a lot of
                                         
                                        people it does function as something of a religion or even
                                         
                                        the idea well I mean the idea that the south will rise again
                                         
                                        very much has those religious overtones will rise exactly
                                         
                                        like and then the fervency of the belief in the flag itself
                                         
                                        right and you know it's very much a it is a worship we
                                         
                                        worship the past like sure could you see Confederacy becoming
                                         
    
                                        a religion a federally federally protected religion no the
                                         
                                        people who believe that we should have the Confederate flag
                                         
                                        hanging should have to agree to go to church together no and
                                         
                                        worship that flag no I don't think so but also like see this
                                         
                                        is this is the thing that I find the most interesting about
                                         
                                        people trying to use logic who don't know anything about
                                         
                                        logic in whenever you whenever you make arguments like the one
                                         
                                        Alex is making you have a bunch of they're not really even
                                         
    
                                        assumptions but they're implied premises that you don't really
                                         
                                        even realize are in there and when you make your argument
                                         
                                        you're actually saying a ton more than you're actually like
                                         
                                        getting to right and that is one of them and the other thing
                                         
                                        is like you like I said things have to be true people weren't
                                         
                                        calling Dan Dan you sweet naive child I'm just saying
                                         
                                        and you're such a beauty to see your wide-eyed optimism yeah
                                         
                                        saying that things have to be true well to be sound like I
                                         
    
                                        said yeah to be sound so the other thing that he's not
                                         
                                        taking into consideration is that people weren't saying we
                                         
                                        should ban the Confederate flag there were just a bunch of
                                         
                                        businesses that got pressure from people who didn't want them
                                         
                                        to sell it and they replied to to the free market they made a
                                         
                                        decision based on what their consumers were saying places
                                         
                                        like Walmart stopped selling the flag free market yeah so Alex
                                         
                                        should be thrilled with that well yeah but they're not bringing
                                         
    
                                        prosperity back they're bringing free market but it's not
                                         
                                        prosperity so secondarily we all know prosperity it's about
                                         
                                        that battle flag secondarily the people wanted the Confederate
                                         
                                        flag taken out of state buildings because of course that
                                         
                                        shouldn't be in it should not be in government buildings yeah
                                         
                                        so that's such a weird so those were the real like that's like
                                         
                                        if North Vietnam was hanging United States flag so here's
                                         
                                        the other thing if he wants to make the argument based on
                                         
    
                                        reality which I think might be a better argument to make because
                                         
                                        I I agree with him if you were making this argument right
                                         
                                        which is well actually I wouldn't agree with him if he was
                                         
                                        using terrorism as one of the foundational premises but be
                                         
                                        good as it may if he's saying people in reality are trying
                                         
                                        to ban the Confederate flag being flown in government
                                         
                                        buildings right and they're doing that because it hurts
                                         
                                        people some people are offended by Islam whether or not that's
                                         
    
                                        rational is another question so the Islamic flags should not
                                         
                                        be flown in our government state buildings well yeah but
                                         
                                        they shouldn't be right so we either should the Confederate
                                         
                                        right but if he's making that argument yeah then cool right
                                         
                                        but he's saying on their own property right he's going so
                                         
                                        far but I know doing it satirically well I understand
                                         
                                        that he's doing it satirically right I understand that I
                                         
                                        understand that he's not literally calling for these
                                         
    
                                        things but the the the form he's using is so flawed yeah like
                                         
                                        he just it drives me up a fucking wall yeah I I could spend
                                         
                                        half an hour yeah all the bullshit yeah so that he ends
                                         
                                        that though with the the your your being a pedant is really
                                         
                                        what's going on I am I am flashing into the part of myself
                                         
                                        that should have been a professor yeah yeah exactly so I
                                         
                                        looked into the idea that people were storming swap meets and
                                         
                                        trying to get the Confederate flag taken down yeah arresting
                                         
    
                                        people for selling Confederate flags that you can't do that
                                         
                                        so I looked at I looked it up and I accidentally googled
                                         
                                        Confederate flag arrests and what I found was a couple of bad
                                         
                                        stories one is I'll just read you this headline tell you a
                                         
                                        little bit about it somebody just arrested a Confederate flag
                                         
                                        but the but the just put it in cuffs they waived the
                                         
                                        Confederate flag and a shotgun at a black child's party
                                         
                                        now they're headed to prison on terrorism charges yeah so
                                         
    
                                        that's one story I found another one a man bombed Walmart
                                         
                                        because it stopped selling Confederate flag in Mississippi
                                         
                                        another one yeah I know what you're saying it seems bad but
                                         
                                        was anybody arrested for selling the Confederate flag I did
                                         
                                        find one story about police and a swap market or a swap meat
                                         
                                        a shopper perusing the merchandise at a Redwood County
                                         
                                        flea market was so offended by a vendor selling Confederate
                                         
                                        and Nazi historical memorabilia the person actually called 911
                                         
    
                                        Wallingsford Connecticut police were dispatched to the flea
                                         
                                        market to investigate the police chief William Wright tells
                                         
                                        News 8 the reason no one was arrested was because the items
                                         
                                        were being sold on private property not to mention not to
                                         
                                        mention no laws of course no laws were broken of course there
                                         
                                        was a table set up with this material Wright says according
                                         
                                        to the journal record it's not criminally illegal but obviously
                                         
                                        it offended this person it causes some people a sense of being
                                         
    
                                        uncomfortable certainly the owner could preclude this
                                         
                                        merchandise he said he could if you wanted to if you and the
                                         
                                        owner yeah it's a choice do that yeah the town resident who
                                         
                                        called 911 said that there were helmets with swastikas images
                                         
                                        of Hitler and other historical Nazi items quote I was shaking
                                         
                                        almost vomiting he tells the paper I had to run my good my
                                         
                                        grand not turn on the history channel my grandmother had
                                         
                                        numbers he said referring to the digits Nazis would tattoo on
                                         
    
                                        their prisoners oh shit the caller complained that the
                                         
                                        Confederate items were quote not authentic and replicas of
                                         
                                        flags and weapons he said the seller told him he was quote
                                         
                                        selling so much he can't keep it in stock so basically what
                                         
                                        happened this has to be the story he's talking about it's from
                                         
                                        around the same time it's a flea market it's police coming
                                         
                                        in I couldn't find any other stories nobody got arrested for
                                         
                                        selling the flag right he's just completely making that part
                                         
    
                                        up out of whole cloth it's absolutely absurd well I think
                                         
                                        his argument would be that liberal snowflakes want people
                                         
                                        arrested for selling the Confederate flag you know those
                                         
                                        liberal snowflakes who survived the Holocaust or the family did
                                         
                                        yeah maybe I don't even know if you want that guy arrested
                                         
                                        I don't the calling the police part is a little strange
                                         
                                        I get where he's coming from right it's a look I don't know
                                         
                                        I'm also I liked the fact that at the end he was like and the
                                         
    
                                        shit wasn't even real well that's just getting that's just
                                         
                                        getting a nice little job I know that's that's some good stuff
                                         
                                        right there yeah so he's a big fan of this dude Alex is not
                                         
                                        done with his shark jumping rant he has a couple more things
                                         
                                        he wants to bring in here's one of them and again I didn't cut
                                         
                                        anything out just segments let's see of the control left won't
                                         
                                        just edit what I just said and we'll take it in context because
                                         
                                        the truth is most Muslims aren't radicals most Muslims aren't
                                         
    
                                        terrorist the truth is that in general the people coming to
                                         
                                        this country just want to work and be successful and are
                                         
                                        fleeing the oppression of radical Islam you should stop there
                                         
                                        I know a lot of Muslims I went to school a lot of Muslims I
                                         
                                        don't support blaming all Muslims for what just happened
                                         
                                        but you know what there been a lot of Muslim groups allied
                                         
                                        with the left who are calling to remove the Confederate flag
                                         
                                        and who are getting into this whole anti Anglo Saxon anti
                                         
    
                                        white garbage so it's time for people and anyone else that
                                         
                                        doesn't want to be oppressed to say I'm not going to be blamed
                                         
                                        for what somebody else does but if you want to play by that
                                         
                                        game we know statistically over 95% of terrorism in the
                                         
                                        world is carried out by Islamic extremist the rest by criminal
                                         
                                        groups who want ransoms that's not even close to true not even
                                         
                                        close to true just to give you a little bit of an idea so in
                                         
                                        the United States for example 94% of terrorist attacks carried
                                         
    
                                        out the United States between the years of 1980 to 2005 were
                                         
                                        done by non Muslims know a lot of them were environmental
                                         
                                        groups a lot of them were animal rights groups right a lot of
                                         
                                        them do because you know if you do a little arson that counts
                                         
                                        as a terror get a little arson get a little arson out so Alex
                                         
                                        likes to talk about Europe if you do a little arson he talks
                                         
                                        about how like all these attacks are being carried out in
                                         
                                        Europe or this not so there have been a thousand terrorist
                                         
    
                                        attacks in Europe in the last five years when this article
                                         
                                        was written and less than 2% were carried out throughout the
                                         
                                        entirety of Europe by Muslims of course so I mean if you want
                                         
                                        to go worldwide and say like you know Muslims fighting off our
                                         
                                        shit and other countries are acts of terrorism see that you
                                         
                                        get into real murky territory that's the thing one of the
                                         
                                        big problems with terrorism is that people use it as a stop
                                         
                                        catch all right when terrorism is very specific it is a group
                                         
    
                                        of people or a person doing a relatively small thing with a
                                         
                                        big footprint in order to influence government policy
                                         
                                        yeah that's what it is so that and and the thing is the
                                         
                                        Charleston shooting was not terrorism it wasn't it was a
                                         
                                        dude who wanted to cause a race war there's political
                                         
                                        implications to it but yeah absolutely but it wasn't trying
                                         
                                        to influence the government into doing that is trying to
                                         
                                        influence white people it's this weird disconnect between
                                         
    
                                        like there is that political terrorism but then there is
                                         
                                        just also trying to strike fear into everybody there's
                                         
                                        definitely that so I don't know I think I but that's an
                                         
                                        execution I agree with your point look it's silly I think
                                         
                                        it to include in your in your because Alex doesn't care
                                         
                                        about things like yeah why are we even pretending well Alex
                                         
                                        only really cares about things that are being done against
                                         
                                        the West right so if we include United States and Europe into
                                         
    
                                        that the attacks that are done by Muslims are infinitesimal
                                         
                                        less than 6% in the United States less than 2% in Europe
                                         
                                        and then if you want to talk about what is actually terrorism
                                         
                                        in the rest of the world now does Alex care if they do stuff
                                         
                                        to each other do we have any Australian terrorists I don't
                                         
                                        know there was that one guy you know I'm talking about he had
                                         
                                        a knife he did have a knife wasn't the knife I didn't have
                                         
                                        a knife was Paul Hogan well the crocodile hunter did strike
                                         
    
                                        fear in the hearts of crocodiles there's no doubt about
                                         
                                        that so I mean look I don't know it's it's a it's a really
                                         
                                        complicated issue to discuss but I I know Alex's statistics
                                         
                                        are wrong yeah I know that whatever it whatever it is he
                                         
                                        says that's lies we we are trying to make sense of so he's
                                         
                                        saying that 90% of the world's terrorism is all Muslims which
                                         
                                        is banana and the rest of it is just people looking to get
                                         
                                        ransoms and stuff like that's like kidnappings in Brazil and
                                         
    
                                        shit but then you have to say that even if you are saying
                                         
                                        that you're not taking into account all those environmental
                                         
                                        and animal rights groups right that are burning shit down
                                         
                                        which he should be happy to pile on with sure this is like
                                         
                                        that cat sanctuary yeah just come on and throw him on there
                                         
                                        why not it's Muslims and Muslim sympathizers which as we
                                         
                                        know our big fans of the environment yeah and animals
                                         
                                        yep they love them yep so he's saying that they're all evil
                                         
    
                                        he's saying that that's all of what terrorism is but some
                                         
                                        people will try and make a caveat they'll point towards
                                         
                                        Oklahoma City that's come out mainstream news was as funny
                                         
                                        as $3 bill totally shut up Southern Prairie Law Center
                                         
                                        running the white supremacist compound it's not true all right
                                         
                                        dude has not come out in mainstream news I did find an
                                         
                                        article in World News Daily that had no sourcing about this
                                         
                                        there is World News Daily you've basically another yeah is it
                                         
    
                                        yeah it's just it's a blog though it doesn't have a cool angry
                                         
                                        Texan doing a radio show with it so got to get more popular
                                         
                                        man it's where Jerome Corsi used to work before he defected
                                         
                                        to Info War Jesus Christ so so it's got great credibility
                                         
                                        totally yeah it's like zero hedge you know it's in that it's
                                         
                                        in that world okay so I don't know what zero hedges it's
                                         
                                        another it's like World News Daily okay so I found an
                                         
                                        article about it on there that had no evidence and no links
                                         
    
                                        to anything else of course there was a claim of a secret FBI
                                         
                                        memo but it didn't link to that it didn't have any secret
                                         
                                        well but it was apparently leaked or whatever it didn't
                                         
                                        have it didn't have a link to it it didn't show a copy of it
                                         
                                        it just claimed that it existed the only thing I was able to
                                         
                                        find was apparently the the place the white supremacist
                                         
                                        group that Timothy McVeigh was involved with was called
                                         
                                        Elohim City and apparently the Southern Prairie Law Center
                                         
    
                                        did have a mole inside really yeah they had infiltrated the
                                         
                                        group and that's how they got a lot of information about the
                                         
                                        group so that part is kind of true and in as much as they had
                                         
                                        someone who was doing research now there's no reason to believe
                                         
                                        that this person in any way influenced Timothy McVeigh right
                                         
                                        do things that he was already prone to do based on statements
                                         
                                        he'd been making for the last 10 goddamn years before that
                                         
                                        right there's also no reason to believe that this this mole
                                         
    
                                        within Elohim City would have had any foreknowledge of Timothy
                                         
                                        McVeigh's plan because even if you have a white supremacist
                                         
                                        group there's no indication that you'd just be like at an open
                                         
                                        meeting being like I'm going to blow up the mirror building
                                         
                                        you know that seems kind of clunky you can't assume that
                                         
                                        guys I'm a totally cool white supremacist you guys like
                                         
                                        blowing shit up I like blowing shit up when are we going to
                                         
                                        plan to blow shit up let me tell you one thing I know about
                                         
    
                                        people who are involved in these sorts of fringe groups one of
                                         
                                        the trends that runs through all of them is a certain amount
                                         
                                        of paranoia a lot of them have good reason to believe that
                                         
                                        anybody in that group could be a government mole yeah because
                                         
                                        it might be it's a good idea to get a mole in these yeah you
                                         
                                        gotta know because these are these are basically like their
                                         
                                        terrorist group exactly you know how you want Intel Alex
                                         
                                        you know how you want Intel on what a terrorist group in
                                         
    
                                        Iraq is doing so do we but also on the ones in the United
                                         
                                        States their sleeper cells here essentially they are that which
                                         
                                        you are afraid of right so look it's so dumb it's just it's
                                         
                                        again it's making stuff up out of whole cloth so I don't look
                                         
                                        I don't know I don't know anyway we have one more clip of the
                                         
                                        shark jump and in this one so there's a wait so what was it
                                         
                                        so the shark the shark jump is ban all Muslims yes yeah but
                                         
                                        then he did go on after that now that's not true I don't believe
                                         
    
                                        that what I do believe is we should ban most Muslims like
                                         
                                        how did he how did he think that's a shark jump again I don't
                                         
                                        get where he thinks satire in reality where the line is where
                                         
                                        sincerity falls on that spectrum I have no idea but I know that
                                         
                                        what he means is that I'm going to say that I call for the
                                         
                                        banning of all Muslim symbols the closing of all mosques the
                                         
                                        deportation of all Muslims and then people will take that out
                                         
                                        of context they won't point out that afterwards I said right
                                         
    
                                        I'm not saying that seriously or immediately before it I said
                                         
                                        right going to fuck with people exactly so I there's a logical
                                         
                                        form of like sort of dealing with arguments called reducto at
                                         
                                        absurdium and that's where you take someone's argument and
                                         
                                        you point out an example of what their logic implies that turns
                                         
                                        it into absurdity yeah it's Italian for Latin for reduced to
                                         
                                        absurdity yeah Alex Jones in this next clip accidentally does
                                         
                                        that to his own fake argument so this is actually a real treat
                                         
    
                                        let's jump this shark but separate from that this is the logic
                                         
                                        this is what they're pushing and so if one man killing nine
                                         
                                        people one degenerate white person who couldn't even get the
                                         
                                        clan to following committed that heinous act then ladies and
                                         
                                        gentlemen we have to remove the Confederate flag next the
                                         
                                        American flag now they're calling to remove Mount Rushmore
                                         
                                        again that's all marked ice let's remove every symbol somebody
                                         
                                        uses in a wrong way if somebody runs over somebody with a Ford
                                         
    
                                        truck I want for to change the symbol change its name and I
                                         
                                        want by law every Ford symbol removed and if you don't $10,000
                                         
                                        fine and there have been people that have used Chevy cars to
                                         
                                        kill people in crowds I want Chevy bad so now that is a stupid
                                         
                                        application of his logic yeah unfortunately isn't at all
                                         
                                        related to the logic of people who want the Confederate flag
                                         
                                        taken out of state buildings it doesn't work at all the only
                                         
                                        thing that him making this stupid fake argument about Chevy
                                         
    
                                        trucks have been used to bow down people so ban Chevy trucks
                                         
                                        that only hurts your fake argument it only shows how
                                         
                                        different that is from anything anybody else is saying yeah so
                                         
                                        he is just fucking thrown a javelin through his argument
                                         
                                        yeah he might as well have been like oh well somebody from
                                         
                                        Iran came over here and committed a terrorist act so we
                                         
                                        should ban all people from Iran from coming into the United
                                         
                                        States wait I think he is saying that now is he saying that
                                         
    
                                        now that's odd might be in direct one to one comparison it
                                         
                                        turns out that might be actually like all this stuff where
                                         
                                        he's claiming he's jumping the shark might be what he actually
                                         
                                        believes it does seem like that right yeah it does feel that
                                         
                                        way he does he's really careful to try like over the next couple
                                         
                                        episodes he is like now what I did was yeah you know what it
                                         
                                        didn't work the way he wanted it to of course that anyone picked
                                         
                                        up on no no one was like oh we got a report on this if he did
                                         
    
                                        it today people would be fucking talking about it but 2015
                                         
                                        people didn't care nearly even then if he did it today people
                                         
                                        would be talking about how dumb he is yeah not for saying we
                                         
                                        should ban all Muslim symbols but for saying I am going to do
                                         
                                        this as a lie yeah then lie and then I'm going to tell you that
                                         
                                        I was lying about it well actually knowing media matters
                                         
                                        and the way they operate I bet they would fall for it I think
                                         
                                        you're I think you're well they that they that episode with
                                         
    
                                        the fill your hand yelling at Adam Schiff they didn't talk
                                         
                                        about how he's clearly drunk on that episode okay they aren't
                                         
                                        the best at picking up all the context of what's going on
                                         
                                        that's true but they mean while I'm not I'm not trying to shit
                                         
                                        on right so we've already done that the shark has been jumped
                                         
                                        Jordan it got jumped so he ends this episode with a interview
                                         
                                        he should end it with a and some double guns yeah yeah which
                                         
                                        he actually has in studio so I meant finger guns he ends the
                                         
    
                                        episode with an interview with a pastor whose name escapes me
                                         
                                        it doesn't matter it's just about how the Confederacy was
                                         
                                        pretty cool oh no but he does say this the pastor and this is
                                         
                                        where he loses all of his credibility there's never been a
                                         
                                        civilization in the history of the world that has officially
                                         
                                        embraced promoted and legitimize the homosexual lifestyle
                                         
                                        that is survived that is simply a matter of historical record
                                         
                                        let me actually use let me use a reducto ad absurdium argument
                                         
    
                                        against his I will do it in real time no cultures that didn't
                                         
                                        have we didn't have Nintendo we's have all not survived there
                                         
                                        we go it's stupid it's pointless yeah it doesn't mean
                                         
                                        anything you can't you can't imply causation between except
                                         
                                        the homosexual lifestyles why did the Aztecs fade away but
                                         
                                        fucking didn't have we's okay everybody knows this yeah
                                         
                                        because we's have properties I got nothing yeah it's no yeah
                                         
                                        yeah exactly that's just like saying all of the cultures who
                                         
    
                                        aren't alive now aren't alive now for any reason right but
                                         
                                        it's gays yeah the other thing too is like hey a buddy there
                                         
                                        are a lot of civilizations that didn't formally recognize
                                         
                                        homosexuality and they don't exist anymore either yeah so I
                                         
                                        mean it's and you know Spartans fucked a lot they did in the
                                         
                                        butt yeah there was there was a bit of that yeah like it you
                                         
                                        understand and they actually did embrace it pretty pretty
                                         
                                        heavily it was a well the they had weird ideas about it well
                                         
    
                                        yeah well it wasn't it wasn't yeah it wasn't like we're in a
                                         
                                        loving relationship it was like a little teaching thing in
                                         
                                        like in Athens it was more teacher Lee base exactly that was
                                         
                                        more like if you're a teacher and you had a pupil you could
                                         
                                        fuck yeah but it was based on respect and that sort of thing
                                         
                                        I don't understand that Spartans there was a lot of like
                                         
                                        soldiers fucking yeah there was stuff like that and it was more
                                         
                                        like we're so manly we're gonna fuck as I recall there's nothing
                                         
    
                                        manlier than fucking another dude as I recall there's some
                                         
                                        stuff in Viking history about that too yeah I you get a bunch
                                         
                                        of dudes together in a small and close enough space sooner
                                         
                                        later they're gonna fuck especially if you're out on a
                                         
                                        boat forever yeah yeah I feel I feel silly bringing the like
                                         
                                        Norse shit into it because I don't really know all that much
                                         
                                        about it but be that as it may yeah I mean you could pick any
                                         
                                        hundred things about our modern culture that exists and be
                                         
    
                                        like well you know past civilizations didn't have this
                                         
                                        or did have this it's fucking dumb anyway this guy's an asshole
                                         
                                        so we have a very short way to go to get through the rest of
                                         
                                        this the rest of the time because the last couple episodes
                                         
                                        in our stretch to July 21st are terrible okay he jumped the
                                         
                                        shark and he fucking did not get back up he crashed right
                                         
                                        landing the 19th because the 18th is Saturday so there's no
                                         
                                        show 19th he does a Sunday show and it's mostly about how
                                         
    
                                        the British nobility are Nazis and sure about how a picture
                                         
                                        of the Queen when she was young a Highling Hitler came out
                                         
                                        and like he's been vindicated on everything he's always said
                                         
                                        and man cow sent him a congratulatory for somebody for
                                         
                                        somebody who's always being vindicated he sure feels the
                                         
                                        need to say he's being vindicated all the time and to do
                                         
                                        whole shows about it yeah so that's kind of dumb and I don't
                                         
                                        really care I don't really particularly I'm not all that
                                         
    
                                        interested in his feelings about the British nobility you
                                         
                                        know they're they're a mess but we get to the 20th we get to
                                         
                                        Monday talks more about British nobility and the show is
                                         
                                        boring but he does say this there's one clip worth
                                         
                                        listening to here and it's this one in high school we go to
                                         
                                        the beach oh no personal history and I think I separated the
                                         
                                        boys from the men almost all the guys would be scared to go
                                         
                                        skinny dipping with the cheerleaders I should tell these
                                         
    
                                        stories I feel like I'm ready to go and of course something
                                         
                                        really had to worry about out out of the Gulf of Mexico at
                                         
                                        night was not so much sharks they're out there but you got a
                                         
                                        better chance by being run over by an elephant and bitten by
                                         
                                        a shark is the jellyfish jellyfish will get you yeah he's
                                         
                                        skinny dip with the babes and that's what separates the boys
                                         
                                        from the men is back then he wasn't afraid to skinny dip with
                                         
                                        the ladies so it's his personal history mixed with even dumb
                                         
    
                                        masculine ideas yeah that's that's not true I believe it's
                                         
                                        probably true I don't think it's true at all I think it's
                                         
                                        true okay well not his assessment but the fact of him
                                         
                                        skinny dipping with cheerleaders I believe that maybe no I
                                         
                                        don't fucking pictures of him from he was younger he was
                                         
                                        swole as fuck okay he was built like a brick shithouse this
                                         
                                        guy who's true all right he was he was fit when he was younger
                                         
                                        I don't like the way you're talking he was also crazy it's
                                         
    
                                        very it's very disconcerting he was a he was a bad kid very
                                         
                                        Spartan of you he was a bad you know what I'm saying he was a
                                         
                                        bad kid who got into a ton of fights but also was traditionally
                                         
                                        attractive so I could see him being one of these bad boys who
                                         
                                        goes skinny dipping with girls if he's fucking like a hundred
                                         
                                        fifty girls before he's not true either no but we have to live
                                         
                                        inside his fantasy okay I believe he probably did have sex
                                         
                                        with a couple people before he was 16 but me that is it may
                                         
    
                                        unimportant it's more important that Alex is like this is what
                                         
                                        bravery skinny dipping with girls when you're young yeah I
                                         
                                        skinny dipped I don't give a shit I don't think it was brave
                                         
                                        of me anyway we move on to the July 21st episode where we
                                         
                                        will end our investigation again no more comes up about Trump
                                         
                                        so the actual investigation is kind of over but he does get
                                         
                                        back into this whole episode mostly on the 21st if there's
                                         
                                        two narratives that he's spending one we're not going to talk
                                         
    
                                        about at all I'll talk about it but we don't any clips Alex
                                         
                                        is furious this is a big new all over again Alex is furious
                                         
                                        that they don't let army recruiters carry guns there's like army
                                         
                                        recruitment centers and they don't have our that they're
                                         
                                        it's after the Chattanooga shooting right where a guy shot
                                         
                                        some military people and so Alex is extrapolating that and so
                                         
                                        Joe Biggs is on the scene at the just south of Austin army
                                         
                                        recruitment center with a team of patriots with guns guarding
                                         
    
                                        place no God damn it yeah so Joe these are larkers basically
                                         
                                        yeah so Joe Biggs is out there he does a report his Skype is
                                         
                                        terrible it breaks up over and over again and he's just like
                                         
                                        hey man I'm out here got my guns and protect these people I
                                         
                                        have some experience with army recruiters because I I don't
                                         
                                        know if it's changed I certainly hope it has but when I was in
                                         
                                        high school the army recruiters were in your schools yeah oh
                                         
                                        they were in my school too they were there and their whole goal
                                         
    
                                        was to manipulate you into signing up they were they were door
                                         
                                        to door salesman basically yeah our guy was super cool because
                                         
                                        of course he is and we didn't know any better than he was
                                         
                                        trying to get us into the army right he would do James Brown
                                         
                                        impressions he would dance oh no he was awesome he seemed so
                                         
                                        cool but I as you sort of as time went on you start to realize
                                         
                                        why does he keep asking me what my future plans are yeah this
                                         
                                        is weird I had a couple friends who fell for it ended up
                                         
    
                                        signing up I don't think any died should look into that
                                         
                                        so I don't care all that much about army recruiters because
                                         
                                        it isn't really the benign thing of like oh you you want to sign
                                         
                                        up so you go sign up now they're salesman yeah there is a
                                         
                                        manipulative game that they're playing in order to trick people
                                         
                                        and if you have if you have commercials for the Navy like
                                         
                                        join the Navy yeah you're yeah it's absurd to think that they
                                         
                                        don't get bonuses for signing people up it's absurd to think
                                         
    
                                        that there isn't quotas that they they're supposed to reach
                                         
                                        yep so I mean they've invested interest in kids signing away
                                         
                                        their future so I don't want to talk about that because I don't
                                         
                                        really give a shit and Joe Biggs heavy yeah but Alex does say
                                         
                                        one thing that's really funny I wish I would have pulled this
                                         
                                        quote but he says Joe Biggs is not a man to make shit up
                                         
                                        flash forward to Joe Biggs getting fired for reporting on
                                         
                                        pizza again so the other narrative of the show that takes
                                         
    
                                        up most of it is these Planned Parenthood videos he gets back
                                         
                                        to him and he says some fucking wild stuff about them here's
                                         
                                        the first clip and when we're not doing it at the Capitol
                                         
                                        when there's Christians just praying trying to ban partial
                                         
                                        birth so this is about his demon narrative about the every
                                         
                                        time you're at an abortion protest demons show up yeah I'm
                                         
                                        sorry that I forgot there was some context needed there
                                         
                                        women in in flowery colors old young black white Hispanic
                                         
    
                                        mainly white and black mainly white actually start going
                                         
                                        I mean it's interdimensional it's Satanism it's real something
                                         
                                        is going on it's in every one of these videos there's wine
                                         
                                        caviar lavish restaurants I love Lamborghinis dead babies
                                         
                                        yeah and then and then I said me seems like it's so liberal
                                         
                                        yeah so there we go with more classism but then secondly
                                         
                                        he's talking about the Lamborghinis and this is something
                                         
                                        that's important to bring up it's based on the deceptive editing
                                         
    
                                        of the videos there's one lady who's having a conversation
                                         
                                        with someone about setting up a relationship where this fake
                                         
                                        research center could get tissue samples right every single
                                         
                                        time that they talk about intact samples they don't they
                                         
                                        the people making the video want you to believe that what
                                         
                                        they're talking about is a full baby yeah and that's not what
                                         
                                        they're talking about course not they're talking about like
                                         
                                        an intact liver or an intact organ yeah like that which is
                                         
    
                                        well within the legal situation and that is what they're
                                         
                                        talking about and they should use the whole baby sure like
                                         
                                        the buffalo exactly so the other thing is this Lamborghini
                                         
                                        thing was a lady talking and she's clearly talking to the
                                         
                                        waiter and it's clearly what do you want lay on a Lamborghini
                                         
                                        it's an old lady she's making a lame waiter I mean that no
                                         
                                        no I mean the editing of that I think both yeah well yeah
                                         
                                        that's a good point so Alex tries to make the claim that
                                         
    
                                        they're buying Lamborghinis based on these baby monies and
                                         
                                        stuff like that right and I just feel the need to clarify I
                                         
                                        mean I watched all these videos today yeah just in preparation
                                         
                                        and it's so clear that this is a fucking manipulative cut and
                                         
                                        that she's not talking to the camera of course not so here
                                         
                                        we go oh yeah oh yeah Caitlyn Jenner oh we got the moral
                                         
                                        high grass girl I mean while we're on it it's crazy these
                                         
                                        people are demons
                                         
    
                                        they just appeared start crawling out of trash cans one guy
                                         
                                        ran and hid in the dumpster I mean they're like he might have
                                         
                                        been Oscar the great that's not really demonic as it as much
                                         
                                        as it is hobo or Sesame Street so I don't anyway I don't
                                         
                                        demons demons and when you confront them they'll actually
                                         
                                        just basically roll around on the ground like in Christ time
                                         
                                        saying we are Legion you are Legion you saw the movie of you
                                         
                                        oh yeah it's like we're in the glasses folks I'm telling you
                                         
    
                                        it's like they live maybe I should just settle down and play
                                         
                                        that six minute piece of membrane put together from they
                                         
                                        live when we had Rowdy Piper on because you know rowdy Piper
                                         
                                        trying to get his buddy to put the glasses on he won't do it
                                         
                                        because put these glasses on or start eating concrete man
                                         
                                        once you see it is no going back
                                         
                                        just take the red pill people another movie yeah do you really
                                         
                                        want to side with ghoul women over to the bottle red wine
                                         
    
                                        classism yes talking about Lamborghinis and from baby
                                         
                                        art sales like a lot more fun than you want that on your
                                         
                                        conscience
                                         
                                        I don't even know about the show at this point I just oh my god
                                         
                                        what a yeah come on you know I don't like it when the cops
                                         
                                        pull me over and give me a ticket it's not that I'm mad
                                         
                                        they're giving me a ticket for speeding I shouldn't be
                                         
                                        speeding it's dangerous it's not good I get we got to have
                                         
    
                                        small order it's that they'll be sure reason you were speeding
                                         
                                        10 miles over the speed limit like is there a reason you're not
                                         
                                        arresting people selling baby parts well yeah because it's
                                         
                                        not illegal and it's not what's happening it's not that
                                         
                                        they're selling baby they're not selling baby parts it's so
                                         
                                        crazy and that whole thing like do you want to side with these
                                         
                                        evil women like well I mean based on the truth yes because
                                         
                                        they're not evil well also even if they even if they were evil
                                         
    
                                        they sound like a lot of fun I like you auntie yeah I would go
                                         
                                        to a white party nice red wine Lamborghini I've never driven
                                         
                                        one of those well she doesn't have one she clearly is telling
                                         
                                        away she wants we just want to Lamborghini it's so she's
                                         
                                        in she's aspiring she's got ambition there is a great moment
                                         
                                        that again I didn't cut this clip just because of time constraints
                                         
                                        but the Alex says defending Planned Parenthood when these
                                         
                                        videos come out is going to blow back on you and it's so
                                         
    
                                        ironic because he never I well I don't know I can't say for
                                         
                                        certain we'll find out as this investigation goes on but I
                                         
                                        guarantee he never is like I'm sorry that I reported this of
                                         
                                        course I know that it was manipulative I'm still against
                                         
                                        abortion which would be the respectable thing to do if he
                                         
                                        was like I'm against abortion I have a principle that even up
                                         
                                        to the first trimester I don't think it's okay I believe it's
                                         
                                        a human if you were to say that I'm sorry these videos were
                                         
    
                                        manipulative it was propaganda I fell for it I'm sorry if you
                                         
                                        were to say that I would respect the hell out of it I'd be
                                         
                                        like it's okay I don't think any conservative outlet has said
                                         
                                        that certainly a lot of people in the House and Senate had to
                                         
                                        yeah well that's true when they did investigation that's true
                                         
                                        they did but I don't think the news really I don't think the
                                         
                                        opinion slash news media no for the conservative propaganda
                                         
                                        machine ever was like well guys we got it wrong and I'm pretty
                                         
    
                                        certain that Fox News isn't reporting too much on the trial
                                         
                                        of those guys no much like Hannity is not going to apologize
                                         
                                        for Seth Rich of course eventually so he gets into this next
                                         
                                        clip is a bit more about the Planned Parenthood stuff but
                                         
                                        what's important here is the video is a lie the videos that
                                         
                                        he's talking about our lives right now he's going to lie
                                         
                                        about the lie he's going to okay he's going to editorialize
                                         
                                        and add things that aren't in those videos in order to grow
                                         
    
                                        the demonicness of it or the villainy so even if he's just
                                         
                                        reporting on the video that is reporting on a lie this is
                                         
                                        lying about a lie right that's fascinating to me that's like
                                         
                                        next level propaganda oh well when you multiply negative two
                                         
                                        by negative two you wind up getting positive for so that
                                         
                                        tracks yep trendy women lisping driving brand new Mercedes
                                         
                                        drink 200 bottle red wine talking and smacking and going
                                         
                                        let me try not to chop them up in too big a piece is going to
                                         
    
                                        get all the goodies and just kind of thrusting or oh yeah
                                         
                                        oh yeah that's what he sounds like when he fucks like there
                                         
                                        any winehouse singing some some blues jazz riff but you're not
                                         
                                        on stage turning on a bunch of men you're you're a sick freak
                                         
                                        talking about baby parts it's not like you're in front of your
                                         
                                        husband in the bedroom you're talking about dead body parts
                                         
                                        and they're just waiting around in their chair oh god like
                                         
                                        this is why you're not in movies you understand they're
                                         
    
                                        coming you're a terrible actor Jordan I'm sorry I have to go back
                                         
                                        because it look you're right you're right I threw up a little
                                         
                                        bit you're right to yell but we've got we've got to get a clean
                                         
                                        take of what happens after he fakes throwing up because it's
                                         
                                        so funny he's so dumb like first of all the lie on the lie too
                                         
                                        is these women aren't squirming around and acting like they're
                                         
                                        sexually excited yeah I don't know what it is he's fucking
                                         
                                        he's trying to weave his narrative that he has built up in
                                         
    
                                        the past that people demons it turns them on people who are
                                         
                                        pro abortion have some sort of a sexual thing about killing
                                         
                                        babies yeah it's all nonsense but he's trying to make this
                                         
                                        lie match up with his preexisting lie and it doesn't work if
                                         
                                        you watch the videos that doesn't match up at all now also
                                         
                                        he says that they are driving Lamborghinis the lady says
                                         
                                        she wants a Lamborghini there's no indication that she has
                                         
                                        one right and who cares if they're drinking wine you asshole
                                         
    
                                        anyway here we go hey real Americans drink paps all right
                                         
                                        fair enough I kind of agree with that.
                                         
                                        I can't handle it anymore.
                                         
                                        I'm about to throw up actually said throw up a throat.
                                         
                                        I want away from these people I don't like them they say our
                                         
                                        kids belong to them you understand they're coming they're
                                         
                                        coming for us God I can't stand them.
                                         
                                        They're dangerous yeah they're even uncool they're so uncool
                                         
    
                                        they're so uncool so at the end of the show he has like I said
                                         
                                        he does more of this Joe big stuff right he says more
                                         
                                        bullshit about Planned Parenthood stuff but I think
                                         
                                        we've we've gotten all we're going to get out of that yeah
                                         
                                        then he has the on air debut of his 12 year old son.
                                         
                                        Oh no no he does a admirable book report and I don't want to
                                         
                                        make fun of him again because he's a child that's a big new
                                         
                                        no it was about GMO.
                                         
    
                                        Okay we just let's move on yeah I'm just gonna get mad look
                                         
                                        I'm just gonna get mad.
                                         
                                        You know I'm gonna get mad because I have sympathies for him
                                         
                                        because he doesn't know any better.
                                         
                                        I think he did a great job for a 12 year old doing a news
                                         
                                        report.
                                         
                                        I know people in high school in my broadcast production class
                                         
                                        that did way worse stories than he did under way less pressure
                                         
    
                                        but he also had all the Info Wars money and team behind him
                                         
                                        right sure he didn't edit it himself.
                                         
                                        I'm sure he did he did a fine job but also it's his dad forced
                                         
                                        him to edit it himself really really fucked up you won't get
                                         
                                        your praise until you finish this it's really really really
                                         
                                        fucked up the way Alex does this he has Rex on and he's
                                         
                                        talking about how he's going to be even greater than him in
                                         
                                        the Info War and it's really putting a lot of pressure on a
                                         
    
                                        12 year old who's a everything the light touches what what is
                                         
                                        12 that's like fifth sixth grade sure that's a lot of pressure
                                         
                                        to know about globalists yeah well if your voice hasn't even
                                         
                                        changed and you're already being primed to fight the globalists
                                         
                                        man you got a big head start so Alex plays his report and before
                                         
                                        that he has him sitting in studio and he does the like you're
                                         
                                        going to be greater than even me or a sharp kid I love you so
                                         
                                        much calls him sweetheart it's very weird and it's very weird
                                         
    
                                        especially considering he now doesn't have custody but be that
                                         
                                        as it may I again whether or not he's a good dad he's a fucking
                                         
                                        lunatic before he intros Rex he has him sitting there while
                                         
                                        he doesn't add no so Rex is sitting at no Rex is sitting
                                         
                                        there that's why you had me write super male vitality down I
                                         
                                        did Rex is sitting there looking over at his dad selling boner
                                         
                                        medication it's not quite the way you think it's going to go
                                         
                                        oh no but you did get it that it is has to do with super vitality
                                         
    
                                        is he going to say something like that's how we got you Rex
                                         
                                        because if he does that's going to creep me out a lot no because
                                         
                                        that I don't think I would have cut out I think that would be
                                         
                                        allowed that one okay no this actually put the mic down because
                                         
                                        this guy accidentally might be the most progressive Alex Jones
                                         
                                        has ever been which is really just a sell product I'm going to
                                         
                                        give you a little news flash the only thing different about
                                         
                                        super female vitality is it has frisky goatweed has a different
                                         
    
                                        name and 20 go it's got a scientific name and it's more of
                                         
                                        an aphrodisiac it has all the same stuff the male stuff has in
                                         
                                        it and it does some other things to your body not just the
                                         
                                        libido but it's super female quite frankly is the formula I
                                         
                                        like best even more the super male but group debates that
                                         
                                        with me it's different for everybody and they go Alex is
                                         
                                        not too good if you say you take female vitality on air
                                         
                                        whatever whoa Alex Jones welcome to the party
                                         
    
                                        that's like it doesn't matter if I take male or female super
                                         
                                        it's all bullshit anyway we gendered these are yeah there's
                                         
                                        no point in doing it maybe maybe he could learn a lesson from
                                         
                                        that yeah maybe he could maybe he could stop calling him male
                                         
                                        and female and instead let them choose what they want to be
                                         
                                        these horny urrs yeah it's got horny goatweed in it I sell
                                         
                                        supplements on my website that you could buy in a truck stop
                                         
                                        bathroom it's the only place I've seen fucking horny goatweed
                                         
    
                                        sold out of those condom dispensers it'll get you going
                                         
                                        it'll get you going that's why they call it horny goatweed get
                                         
                                        it I guess so anyway that brings us to the end of July 21st
                                         
                                        and thus the end of our part four of our investigation of
                                         
                                        what happened to Alex Jones so far we see little evolution in
                                         
                                        his feelings towards Donald Trump except to say that maybe
                                         
                                        someone loves some bigotry he does love that and maybe someone
                                         
                                        told him to stop talking about his mob ties right I didn't
                                         
    
                                        speculate about that earlier but I might as well the stuff
                                         
                                        that he was saying about Trump before this was basically vague
                                         
                                        accusations of crimes yeah so there's a decent chance someone
                                         
                                        was like dude you got to stop that in not necessarily in
                                         
                                        nefarious ways but just like it could be it could be yeah but
                                         
                                        it could also just be somebody being like yeah hey that is
                                         
                                        you something you could be sued we know his lawyers aren't
                                         
                                        that good that's a good point so he might have had someone
                                         
    
                                        who touched him and was like hey you gotta you know calm down
                                         
                                        on that right so he decided he's not going to attack Trump
                                         
                                        anymore but even in that speech he still says he doesn't trust
                                         
                                        him and thinks he's going to betray everyone yeah so there's
                                         
                                        no evolution for the rest of the time but fuck was that
                                         
                                        job shark jumping fun that was insanity that was complete
                                         
                                        nonsense and then beyond that what else do we have oh Alex
                                         
                                        is an idiot and he believes a propaganda about Planned Parenthood
                                         
    
                                        I just love the the abortion protesters he literally and
                                         
                                        not not in a figurative way like he described like Hillary
                                         
                                        Clinton is a demon and and you know smells like sulfur as a
                                         
                                        way of describing you know all of this stuff flies land on yeah
                                         
                                        he's literally saying it is something interdimensional yeah
                                         
                                        and that at these abortion protests they appear fucking
                                         
                                        appear out of the ground and if you confront them they will
                                         
                                        contort on the ground saying we are Legion yeah and he they
                                         
    
                                        are Legion and he's sick of them yeah makes him throw up a
                                         
                                        little bit but my mouth a little bit but that was that was so
                                         
                                        that was so terrible that was real bad that was really bad but
                                         
                                        it's one of these gotta take an acting class it's one of the
                                         
                                        few times that I've been listening to the show and I
                                         
                                        legitimately like Blurt like you are such an asshole I was like
                                         
                                        come on man you sense memory use something yeah take an acting
                                         
                                        class yeah so if you'd like to you can find us on the internet
                                         
    
                                        at knowledge fight dot com correct and we'll be back soon
                                         
                                        with another installment of this investigation hope picks up
                                         
                                        we are getting close to August where the first debate happens
                                         
                                        right so we'll see again Roger Stone is not shown up yet
                                         
                                        right Steve Pachanik is not there I actually want to make
                                         
                                        this clear what I remember that on our last episode
                                         
                                        I we didn't spell this out enough we danced around it a little
                                         
                                        bit and
                                         
    
                                        let me see if I can find the best way to say this
                                         
                                        Alex needs to be lied to in order to get on board with
                                         
                                        Trump whole hog because of the things he knows about him and
                                         
                                        the lack of trust right he knows about these connections
                                         
                                        that he has to mobs he knows about Russia connections x y
                                         
                                        and z so in order for him to get on board what we said is he
                                         
                                        needs another compelling thing which we speculated would be
                                         
                                        this culture war stuff I regret that I didn't point out that
                                         
    
                                        that Steve Pachanik's role in the whole con Steve Pachanik
                                         
                                        is there to give the Russia didn't hack this stuff it was
                                         
                                        Patriots within our government okay so Steve Pachanik is there
                                         
                                        functionally as the cover for those lies that Roger Stone is
                                         
                                        going to tell him okay that's what I think all right but
                                         
                                        it's probably more likely it's just bigotry yeah it's boy
                                         
                                        everything's everything could be nefarious but it could also
                                         
                                        just be bigotry the reason that I think it has to be nefarious
                                         
    
                                        the entirety of American history true the reason I think it
                                         
                                        has to be nefarious though is it's such a wild coincidence that
                                         
                                        all of these people would change their mind in exactly the
                                         
                                        same way at exactly the same time yeah but anyway we'll find
                                         
                                        out that Trump did unite us yeah he's a uniter well United
                                         
                                        them yeah yeah I just threw up in my mouth oh that was pretty
                                         
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