Knowledge Fight - #53: June 12, 2017

Episode Date: June 14, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about what happened on The Alex Jones Show on June 12th. Topics covered include: Dan's hypothetical plan for an interview with Alex Jones How desperate is Alex to do pree...mptive damage control about Megyn Kelly? Does Jerome Corsi have huge Seth Rich news? (he doesn't)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're couple dudes who like to sit around and drink novelty beverages. Which this episode has none, because I am a complete nutter failure. By the grace of God, Jordan forgot the coconut juice he was going to bring over.
Starting point is 00:00:22 I bought coconut juice. And I'm so grateful that you forgot it, because that would be disgusting. Oh, you have no idea. There are little chunks of coconut in it. I think it's just water with little chunks of coconut. I'm dreading that two episodes from now. It would have been nightmarish. Beyond that, though, we talk about Alex Jones. Oh, we do do that.
Starting point is 00:00:40 That's the main thing we do. That's, yeah, I forgot about that part. We can do this show. I focus too much on coconut juice now. We can do the show without the novelty drinks. We cannot do the show without talking about Alex Jones. So, but you know what? This isn't just any Alex Jones podcast. It's not.
Starting point is 00:00:55 This is not your granddaddy's Alex Jones podcast. You don't know what that would entail. I don't know. I don't either. But anyway, I know a lot about Alex Jones. I don't know anything about Alex Jones. And then we sort of meet in the middle and have a conversation about what the fuck is wrong with that guy. That sounds like a good plan.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Yeah. And I like that podcast. We're going to implement it. Yes. Today, what we're going to be going over, Jordan, is Monday, Monday, Monday, June 12th, 2017, this Monday. And it's sort of the culmination of the last, let's say, four days, five days on his show, where he has been in preemptive damage control about the Megan Kelly interview that's coming out on Sunday. Boy, that seems like a very obvious, like,
Starting point is 00:01:38 there's some damage that needs to be controlled there. Oh, big time. And he's gone overboard attacking Chelsea Clinton quite a bit. How is Chelsea Clinton involved? She got involved. She started talking about how Megan Kelly shouldn't have had Alex Jones on the show. You know, there's a lot of people who have been going around on Twitter and saying that she should not be giving him a platform.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Absolutely a valid point. I don't disagree with it to some extent. That's not the bridge we have to cross now. Because that work is done. The interview has been done and it's going to air barring some sort of crazy sponsor pullout. Yeah, and we can't which I'm assuming Alex Jones is somehow lobbying those sponsors right now.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Like he is. Yeah. He has gone on Twitter and said, like, oh, J.P. Morgan, you're not advertising. Oh, for real? He actually has done that. He's like, let's call it off. Let's shelve this thing.
Starting point is 00:02:31 No shit, because he wants it fucking shelved. Of course. That's a win win for him. Oh, yeah. No matter what happens, he wins except for if one gets the attention that he wants from the liberal Twitter sphere going like, don't put this maniac on there, which makes his followers even more maniacal in their support for him.
Starting point is 00:02:50 And whenever you have people like the sponsors pulling, because he doesn't have sponsors that can pull out really. So he doesn't have that concern. So when you introduce him into the world where sponsors do have a say, you then turn it into a thing where like, oh, sponsors are pulling out. That's right, because I'm so dangerous. Right. Everything plays into his hands except for one very specific thing
Starting point is 00:03:10 that I'll be laying out over the course of this episode. OK. Because this is, in essence, the third installment of our how not to cover Alex Jones. Our ongoing series that will continue until he's penniless. It's so fascinating to me the idea that everybody's like, don't give this guy a platform. Yet everybody's talking about him. Right.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Do you not understand the issue there? You're just giving him a platform. Right. And attacking him in a hacky and mundane ways. Yeah. Are playing into his hands intensely. Right. I sat down the other night and I tried to write a Twitter thread
Starting point is 00:03:51 about how this is a major opportunity. And if people really want to make headway against Alex Jones, there is a path we can proceed down, but no one is doing it. It's hard. Everyone is just getting mad about Sandy Hook. And I understand why. It's horrible. We've covered it extensively.
Starting point is 00:04:10 I think I've done my share of yelling. Certainly. His denial of the death of those 20 children is monstrous. It's unconscionable. And the damage it's done to their families. 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,160 It is perhaps. I mean, there was just a story that came out the other day
Starting point is 00:04:26 of a lady who basically was giving death threats to one of the children's parents. And she went to jail. And she got probation that included, you can't listen to Alex Jones. Wait, what? Yeah. That was in the article.
Starting point is 00:04:38 God. A condition of her probation or her release was that you can't listen to Infowars. Wow. But court ordered deprogramming of a cult member. Yeah. To an extent. So all that is awful.
Starting point is 00:04:51 And I get why people want to focus on that. But even in that scenario, even in that tiny kernel, there's something so much more important that we need to. The issue that should be pressed on Alex is not, why do you think that nothing happened in Newtown? Because that's a question he's been ready to answer forever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:12 He's been preparing for that one. Absolutely. And I'm sure well before the interview, they were like, she's going to do this. Yeah. Buckley sat him down and was like, dude, I'm your cousin. Now you listen to me. That's going to come up.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Right. And stop marrying my third wife. I like the ongoing marital troubles of Buckley that are based on nothing. Nothing. I just love it. Yeah. So the question that Megan Kelly should have asked
Starting point is 00:05:40 in regards to Sandy Hook. And maybe she did. I don't know. The whole interview hasn't come out when we're recording this. So I don't know what she asked. And a lot of the things that we have to go on is assumption, past history of TV news specials and the trailer that they put out. The question she should have asked is set it up by saying,
Starting point is 00:06:04 let's talk about your position on Sandy Hook. That puts a trap down for Alex to walk right into. Right. Because his narrative that he spins now and he spins in the trailer is that we had debates. We, we heard both sides of it. Sometimes for devil's advocate, we said all these things. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:21 So you say that then play him this clip. Yeah. So Sandy Hook is a synthetic completely fake with actors. In my view, manufactured. I couldn't believe it at first. I knew they had actors there clearly, but I thought they killed some real kids. And it just shows how bold they are that they clearly used actors.
Starting point is 00:06:45 I mean, they even ended up using photos of kids killed in mass shootings here in a fake mass shooting in Turkey. So yeah, or Pakistan, the sky is now the limit. I appreciate your call. So you play that clip for him. And that is where the real question is, which is why are you lying about what you said in the past? It's not about Sandy Hook necessarily.
Starting point is 00:07:12 The important question is why are you pretending that wasn't your position? It's very publicly available. Yeah. That's a question he's not ready to answer. And it's not an answer or it's not a question that he can answer without stepping into a huge pile of shit. There's no conceivable answer to it other than I was lying back then. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Yeah. I was caught up in propaganda back then. And I pitched this narrative. I didn't think there would be consequences. I didn't realize how bad that would look in hindsight. Yeah. Or he would have to say, I found evidence that it wasn't fake. And I'm an idiot.
Starting point is 00:07:50 I'm sorry I said those things. Which he can't do. He can't do that. He can't do either of those. No. So his position would have to be I was playing devil's advocate. But he wasn't. And you have to listen to that and go, no, you weren't.
Starting point is 00:08:03 He wasn't at all. That was unequivocal. He was explaining what he saw the reality as to his audience. He was directly saying it to a listener who was calling in. And everyone else was the surrogates. Yep. They were the surrogate callers who were being trained and taught in the macabre arts of false flaggery.
Starting point is 00:08:21 And even more important than that was that in that clip he says, I didn't believe it at first. And now I do. So you can't call that devil's advocate. That's you coming to a realization. Yep. And there has to be something that led him to that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:38 But again, it's not to get to like, why are you a monster? How could you deny saying, hook? It's why did you lie? Right. Or are you going to apologize for lying? What is the nature of your deceit in this case? Or are you going to say you're wrong? Or I'm dumb.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Yeah. I fell for this. Yeah. That is the trap that you would set with that sort of a question. If you ask him, why would you do that to those families? It sounds like there's going to be an emotional resonance to it, but it doesn't work with him. He's not going.
Starting point is 00:09:09 He's ready for that. Yeah. He's a psychopath. He is. Yeah. He's categorically. He has no feelings, no emotions. He thinks he's better than everybody else.
Starting point is 00:09:18 And he thinks he's going to outsmart everybody else. And he's never. Then nobody can catch him. And we know he has no feelings because he's never laughed. He's never actually laughed. Never. Yeah. So we're going to get to this episode.
Starting point is 00:09:29 There's a couple of fun things. We're going to deal with a lot of damage control about Megan Kelly in the beginning. Then we're going to get to some really fucked up stuff. And at the end of this, I am going to play you a clip that I think indicates that Alex, on our last episode back from 2015, Alex Jones quote unquote jumped the shark in his conception. Yeah. In this episode, Alex Jones legitimately invalidates the last 20 years of his career. No shit.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Yep. And we'll get to that clip at the end. So there's a T you son of a bitch. There's a tease. Listen to the end. So we're going to start at the beginning, which essentially invalidates our entire our state admission is no longer. Well, fuck our state admission.
Starting point is 00:10:13 We don't have coconut juice. That's true. And we stopped drinking wine. So everything's out the window. So here's how Alex started out the show on Monday, June 12th. Live from the info wars.com studios, you're listening to the Alex Jones show. Ladies and gentlemen, all hell is breaking loose. And I couldn't be happy.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Victory, victory, victory, victory. Info wars is absolutely dominating. And the globalists are so upset. The treaty signed. Look at these headlines. Chelsea Clinton blast Kelly for Alex Jones interview the hill. Sandy Hook mom blast Megan Kelly for upcoming Alex Jones interview. Megan Kelly NBC under fire over sickening Alex Jones interview.
Starting point is 00:11:06 This is totally coordinated NBC bull. This is all PR, especially out of Megan Kelly and Chelsea Clinton. We know that you'll hang out with. This is incredible. Megan Kelly lied to me and said it wasn't a hit piece. Said that she wasn't going to get into these topics. And like Trump says, better watch out. There might be tapes.
Starting point is 00:11:30 There's no question about there might be tapes. Bullshit. And I just knew I was walking into a trap because MSM doesn't get it. No matter what they do, then why did you do it? They're already discredited. They have the zombies that watch them. But that's it. Everybody else then just gets reminded of the show so it grows even faster.
Starting point is 00:11:50 It's only those millions of people. Chelsea, you're in the WikiLeaks talking about Haitians dying because of your foundation, how your mommy and how your daddy stole all the money, but you didn't do anything. And all the corruption and Jerry Epstein's pedophile airplane, all of it. You know what I'm going to do? I'm just going to come back in the next segment and I'm going to lay out the whole Megan Kelly hit piece and how they're going to edit it and what they're going to do because I already know.
Starting point is 00:12:18 I already know. I kind of already know too. We all kind of know what the format of it is going to take. It's going to be essentially the same attempts at Gotcha. It's going to be him obfuscating. Of course, he knows. We all know what the essence of the interview will be. Nice jabs on Chelsea Clinton there.
Starting point is 00:12:38 He really should stop bringing up Jeffrey Epstein's plane because Trump was on it too. Like he just, whenever he brings up how Clinton was on the quote unquote Lolita express, Trump did too. They were friends also. You can't, you can't just like, oh no, I'll just ignore that part of it. So he has to frame the interview as a hit piece. That's important to his, his narrative working. And maybe that's fair.
Starting point is 00:13:05 I don't know. I mean, it has to be a hit piece. You think there's no, there's no other way to organize it, right? Well, do you mean for him or in reality? No, in reality. Like how would you, how would you do a puff piece on Alex Jones? I wouldn't do a puff piece, but I don't think, I think I could do a piece that wasn't a hit piece.
Starting point is 00:13:25 I think, I think certainly I, if, if I were given, like if NBC let me interview Alex, I wouldn't be doing it as a hatchet job. Right. But I would destroy him. How is that not a hatchet job then? Because I would also seek to, here's what I would seek to do. Seek and destroy first off by Iggy Pop. I would play that as my intro music.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Yeah, absolutely. As opposed to that weird walk in the base. Yeah, no, none of that. What I would do is my approach. And I think this is what Megan Kelly should have done outside. I would have left the Sandy Hook stuff alone. The stuff that we talked about at the beginning is if you have to bring it up, that's the approach you should take.
Starting point is 00:14:05 I would seek to explain to him and to illuminate to the audience the link between his past and his propaganda. That's what I would seek to do if I were doing a story on him. It would not be a hit piece in the, in the sense that I want to, uh, you know, like score points off him or something like that. But I would try to make clear all of your toxic masculinity, all of these things that you have about, I'm a man, brah. All of that is very easily traced back to your relationship with your mother,
Starting point is 00:14:38 that you've explained yourself on the air. I would lay that out. Further, I would lay out. God, that would blindside him beyond belief. Further, I would lay out, you are a bigot. I know you don't want to believe that, but you are. You think that you've been beaten up by black people more than Martin Luther King has been beaten up by white people.
Starting point is 00:14:59 You think that you're the new Martin Luther King. You have real problems with race and you, maybe you don't say the N word on air, or maybe not even in your private life. I don't know, but that doesn't matter. You embody horrible racism. Yeah. Now look at your past. You think that you were beat up all the time by black people when you were a kid,
Starting point is 00:15:23 not realizing that you were a problem kid. You were a fucking shithead kid. Yeah. Also, how many comas do you have to put other people in before it invalidates any? Oh, before you look in the mirror. Yeah. But see, I would take those stories that he's told on the air of being targeted for his whiteness and be like, do you realize how the way that you deal with race now mirrors
Starting point is 00:15:48 that childish idea that you had when you were a kid? Do you realize that all of your anti-feminist ideas kind of root, they take root in that you have to be a man. You can't be a mama's boy. You don't get love anymore kind of stuff. That's what I would do. I would just lay it all out there. I'd be like, let's get into this.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Yeah. What do you think? What do you think? Right. And hopefully there would be some opera. I mean, he would just scream at me. Well, and that's the shit. Like that's the way that you would have to,
Starting point is 00:16:18 because that would do the thing that he would hate the most. That would emasculate him. And that is far more damaging to his listenership, because their entire, well, not their entire, but his audience, as you've noted in the past, is mostly white dudes. Yeah. It's about 80% white and 70 something percent dudes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:45 And that is the most damaging thing. Yeah. Like for his listeners, the idea that instead of- His audience isn't like 90% white. Yeah. Well, instead of trying to catch him in a lie, or catching him in a, you know, why are you so evil? It's, are you really just a pussy?
Starting point is 00:17:06 Well- Did you ever consider that maybe you're a coward acting out? I don't like that phrasing, first of all, the pussy stuff, but also- I don't like using the word pussy in this regard, but again, that is the language that would emasculate him more than anything else. I appreciate where you're coming from, but here's the distinction I would make. I would not be seeking to emasculate him,
Starting point is 00:17:27 but he would feel emasculated based on his own twisted worldview. I would be seeking to actually give him a more robust view of race and masculinity that are much more integrated into the reality of the world, as opposed to his abused child's understanding of it. Like clearly, I don't know, this is fucked up, but clearly something happened to him, and it arrested his development. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:55 That is what happened. I mean, that's very simple to see. So all of his understandings about the way people interact, the way the world works is childish. The idea of globalists is fucking childish to begin with, and you take it, you take it further, but it, that's what I would want to get out of the interview. I think I would just do the psychopath test with him,
Starting point is 00:18:16 like ask him those questions word for word and be like, hey, you scored, you're a murderer. Did you consider that score? Have you considered that? Are you a murderer? Probably. Where's Nunk? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:30 That would be my first question. You'd just be like, uh, like, uh, you'd be like Barksdale, like, where's Wallace? Yeah. But with Nunk. Did you fuck Buckley's wife? These are questions we need answered. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:46 So I guess actually to sum it up, what I would say is it's less emasculation and more infantilization. I would want him to be able. That's a better way of putting it. I would want him to be able to connect with the child, the pained child version of himself that he clearly is acting out with.
Starting point is 00:19:02 And cause it's, you know what? Okay. Don't you think that would make him a sympathetic figure though? No, because the damage he's done is so severe that it would take a tremendous amount of work for him to ever become sympathetic again. Because once you get through that part where it's like, this is the roots of so much of your bigotry,
Starting point is 00:19:22 so much of your stupid positions that you have, so much of your twisting of the truth is to match these infantile ideas about the world. Once you break through that, then you can pile in with the, why do you feel the need to lie about Sandy Hook? Yeah. Cause then you can like, you've, you've destroyed him.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Yeah. Yeah. Then you can get in with the like, Oh, okay. What about this? Do you realize that the state of the conservative movement right now is going to take away healthcare for women
Starting point is 00:19:51 that really need it and a lot of it is not totally your fault, but you played a massive role in perpetuating that Planned Parenthood myth that the Center for Medical Progress put out and you just mirrored it propagandistically. Do you realize all the damage that you've done to our international standing,
Starting point is 00:20:08 to our actual economy, once this bubble starts to go down a little bit, just by your cheerleading for Trump? Do you understand? Do you understand? Do you understand? And then he, then he would take, they would take away a lot of the sympatheticness of it.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Yeah. I, I just, I, it's, it's such a fucking shit show to watch, to watch this reaction based on this, this entire interview. Yeah. It's, it's just that same fucking, like you say something inflammatory and then you get outraged.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Yeah. And then the outrage goes back to the other side and you just ping pong outrage and nobody ever actually deals with the fucking problem. Well, to some extent it's because it's a ping pong, it's a game we're used to playing. Yeah. You know, it's a, it's a,
Starting point is 00:20:57 it's a traditional structure that, you know, like you said, you get, you say something fucked up, I get mad, you get mad that I'm mad at you and it just, you know, goes back and forth. And then everybody pays attention and then everybody forgets immediately. And a number of the players make a good amount of money off it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:13 There is that dance that is really, really customary. Even, even though Alex thinks of himself as such an alternative media figure, he's still very willing to play that game. It's a money making game. I mean, it's proven, it's proven to be very effective. Right. But the reality is you need to not play that game.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Yeah. That game can't be played with someone like Alex. Like he is too dangerous. And he's only, he's only, yeah. No, the whole thing, the whole thing is a mess. Yeah. And that's the, that's the other thing that you just, you just described in your interview,
Starting point is 00:21:48 something that TV news does not do, which is just play the clip. Just make you sit there and listen to your words. I would love to watch Alex's face. Well, that Sandy Hook clip would play. Oh God, I'd be jerking off right in front of him. It would be, he'd be jowly and sweaty. Oh.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Just. He would walk out. Probably. Like that's your, that's your better interview is, Alex Jones can't handle something. You can have your. Which again, emasculates Alex Jones. You can have your.
Starting point is 00:22:17 He can't sit there and take it. No, you can have your come on Gallagher moment. Yeah, exactly. But with Alex Jones. Yeah. That's the, and that's the whole thing. Again, you can dish out all you want because you're a bully. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:28 But the moment you get challenged, you run away. Yeah. Your Alex is a coward. I say this with all sincerity. I wish they would have let me interview him. Yeah, I know, right? It would be the greatest. I would be in the background, just barely, barely audible.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Just giggling like a lunatic. Yeah. Drives me nuts. How are we? We're one clip in. We got to get to the point. Yeah. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:22:59 So this next clip is Alex explaining that he thinks he was lied to about the premise of the interview. I don't think that's the case at all. That can't be possible. No. It's simply amazing to see them. And of course, Megyn Kelly interviewed me for four hours. She had a crew here from 9.30 in the morning till 10.45 at night interviewing me at some
Starting point is 00:23:23 house they rented and a barbecue place they rented out and here at my office. So they could edit it down to 11 minutes and then I saw their promo piece. I know it's edited questions together. I'm not saying it's Katie Couric level, at least till I see the broadcast, but they even lit me from one side. Villain lighting. Villain lighting. Why don't you put a flashlight under my chin?
Starting point is 00:23:49 Oh, look, she gets normal lighting. I get villain lighting. Maybe you just look like a villain in any light. Isn't that just cute? Isn't that just nice? You're a fucking villain. On and on and on and her on the phone. It's not a hit piece.
Starting point is 00:24:03 I'm obsessed with you. I want to get a steak with you. I want to get dessert. I said, Megyn, I know you're a lawyer and a hit operative and you're coming in here to do a hit piece off known talking points. It's going to be Sandy Hook, Pizza Gay, blah, blah, blah. She's known. You know, I might let you clarify those, but that's not what it's about.
Starting point is 00:24:19 And then she'd ask me each of those things five times so she could try to get some answer. She could stitch together. Amazing. So let me read between the lines on that. Do you want, do you look like you want to yell something? Megyn Kelly told Alex she is obsessed with him. Right. I'm sure that that means that what she actually said was I find you fascinating
Starting point is 00:24:43 or something like that. You're a crazy person. I'm sure you'd be very interesting. Also probably like, hey, we can go get a steak, you know, go get some dinner. I'm coming down to Austin. Yeah, show me some Texas or something like that. I bet there was a conversation like that. Like not, we don't just have to do the interview.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Let's, uh, let's get comfortable talking to each other. Let's make out a little bit. Sure. You know, you're like that. 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:06,960 Fuck. Fuck. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Megyn Kelly is too classy. So the other stuff is like, yeah, the villain lighting stuff. I've seen the shot. It doesn't look that villainous. It's just kind of the standard, uh, 2020, uh, news magazine type interview footage. He's just, he's really pretty. He doesn't believe that he looks terrible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:26 That's, that's what he really does. He can't process that, but it's his way of like shilling his products, even when he doesn't bring them up. Yeah. It's like, I don't look that bad. I'm on super male vitality or female vitality. The other thing, he just admitted it's the same shit. Same for who cares?
Starting point is 00:25:43 Oh, it gives a shit. The other thing there that's really important is like, she kept asking me the same question over and over again. And we know why he didn't answer the questions. Certain of it. She, she asked me a question and I didn't answer it. And then she was like, Hey, could you answer this question? And I continued to not answer it.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Let's play it out. I'll be Alex. You'll be Megan. Okay. Um, how, how do you feel about all the damage that you've done to the sandy hook victim? Any damage that I've done is not even close to the damage that's going to be done by fish people. They're coming. They're in tanks.
Starting point is 00:26:15 They look really sad. They've got human sadness in their faces. Now, how do you feel about that? Um, about as bad as the sandy hook victims. Why are you asking me about sandy hook again? Yeah, but how do you feel about the damage you've done to the sandy hook victims? I don't know why you keep bringing this up. I, I mean, cause I think our listeners and our viewers want to know.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Megan, this is unprofessional. All right, I'll change tags. Why do you fucking shit all over how I look? I'm just people. I'm fucking Megan Kelly. I'm gorgeous. You know what I just realized too? What?
Starting point is 00:26:50 That Megan is gorgeous. She is a beautiful one, but also the secret of 2017 may end up. He might, he might have been right. We laughed. Oh God. We laughed in January when the secret of 2017 was making Kelly, but apparently it turns out. And that's yeah, you might have been onto something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:15 So I'm certain his presentation of what the interview is and her setup of it is very wrong. Yeah. But he has some other thoughts you want. Who could have guessed that we would have guessed it would have assumed it was wrong. Yeah. The, this next clip is Alex trying to explain why the Democrats in the world are mad about his interview. So that it gets more hype to try to prop up her flagging show. She's air to episode.
Starting point is 00:27:44 It can't flag. So see, she needs this big win and then Chelsea of the criminal Clinton Foundation weighs in. Oh, don't give this guy attention. Oh, oh, like I need attention on your stupid network. Unbelievable, incredible, absolutely ridiculous. And as usual, they've walked right into our trap. Big laugh. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Why would you do a villainous laugh after protesting about your villainy? I am talking about, I have a trap. Yeah. You don't have a trap. Yeah. No, but, but also like that strikes me so much as I didn't want to play kickball anyway. Yeah. No, I'm taking my ball and going home.
Starting point is 00:28:32 I don't need your stupid network. Look, just because you're mad that I always win doesn't mean that you get to tear me down. Right. I could just imagine he was that kind of fucking kid and like, oh, I just want to bully him. I don't actually really want to bully. I don't like bullying. But so yeah, that is actually, in that clip, he said one thing that I kind of do agree with. And that is that a lot of the outrage about it is serving to get more hype for the interview.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Absolutely. And whether that's intentional or not is another thing. Right. I don't, I'm not sure if I believe that there's a plot on the part of NBC to like, hey, let's anger people. Maybe there is. I mean, it's a guarantee. I guarantee so many people will watch that.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Sure. So many people are going to watch that. It's going to have very good ratings. No shit. And that is why probably do a lot to the extreme outrage machine. Yeah. Like you want to watch it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:40 And I kind of want to watch it. We have to for our work. I'm not going to. It would run. It would run our basic premise. Yeah, exactly. We're, are we going to cover it? That would be great if we just were like, no, didn't happen.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Yeah. Fake news. Fake news. Yeah, totally. I mean, like you have a built in audience of whatever, couple hundred thousand people listen to Alex regularly. Yeah. Because his audience is not nearly as big as he thinks it is.
Starting point is 00:30:05 I, I, I could not hate the Chelsea Clinton shit more. Yeah. Like the people who say Hillary should go away. Fuck you. Hillary should not go away. She is the avatar for why the fuck are you white supremacists hating on women. So goddamn much. Totally.
Starting point is 00:30:22 But Chelsea Clinton should go the fuck away. I don't need any more political dynasties. I'm done with the bushes. I hope they all go away. I hope they all get hit by a truck. I'm done with the Kennedys. I'm done with where the whole point is not to have a goddamn monarchy. Well, here's why do we have one?
Starting point is 00:30:43 Here's the thing. I think the Kennedys are done for the, for the most part. Second, I don't think that Chelsea is necessarily engaged in electoral politics. I don't have. She's, she's been asked if she, she's intimated that perhaps she'll run for office. She's been asked if she's going to run and she said no. Oh, did she? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Cause she's kind of had a few, I've seen a few where she's like, at this time I have no plans on. On the zero to Mark Zuckerberg scale, she's a one. Oh God, I hope Mark Zuckerberg goes away too. So, but like, I don't think it's fair to say here is a person who has lived her entire adult life in the realm of politics and has gotten involved in nonprofit NGO organizations and has opinions on things. I don't think there's any reason to tell her to shut up.
Starting point is 00:31:30 I agree with you that I don't like the idea of her running for office necessarily because of the same reason, the dynasty shit, but there's no reason for her to go away in the capacity that she's in. I agree with you completely. Okay. Full stop. It's disappointing cause I want my, I want my, the bushes are a much bigger problem cause there's at least two of them who are still in office.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Fuck off bushes. Yeah. No, I just, I know, I know I'm wrong. I know I'm wrong, but I have this very visceral emotional reaction to any time it's like, Oh, what does Mike Huckabee's daughter have to say? I hope she gets hit by a fucking car. I don't care. She's way better at this shit than him though.
Starting point is 00:32:12 She's way better at this shit. So maybe he was the problem. Yeah. Sarah Huckabee Sanders is talented. Anyway, I don't know. I, of course, dynasties are bad. Dynasties are bad. That's my point.
Starting point is 00:32:25 My point is not to agree. If she were to enter like a Senate race, Senate might even be okay, but if she were going to run for president, I would not be, I would be against that. Yeah. Well, I, I'm against the Senate as well. The entirety of it. I'm against the current currently.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Yeah, certainly. Um, okay. So this next clip, Alex Cucks out NBC talks about how great he is, which is pretty standard fare for him. You think, you think I need you? Yes. You think, you think you make me arrive? Oh, you cancel him.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Don't show it. It's so horrible. That's all to get people to tune in, that there's a controversy, just like with the passion of the Christ. Oh, don't go see it. Don't go watch it. Oh, I was talking about,
Starting point is 00:33:13 I thought he was talking about the literal passion of the Christ. That's how the Romans got criticized for booking conspiracy theorist Alex Jones. She knows she needs us for the ratings. She needs my fame, the fame of liberty, your fame. They know we're the operating system of Trump. They know we're the reboot of 1776. They know you are the light in the dark of the night and they don't like you. And so they want to make you think we're losing and we're failing,
Starting point is 00:33:43 just like they want to make you think Trump is losing and failing. It's all a bunch of hype. Trillions in the stock market. Hundreds of billions in new jobs. Confidence way up. Securing the border. All these great- None of that is true!
Starting point is 00:33:56 ...things happening with a bunch of- 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,160 ...winey little idiots. Running around, bitching and complaining. It's a joke. We'll be back though with what Ivanka Trump had to say. Can't wait to hear that. We'll be back with- God damn it.
Starting point is 00:34:11 I hate the world we live in. I mean, your screaming was totally right. None of that is true or it's all super vague stuff. Except for maybe the- I mean, I checked into it. The small business optimism index is still pretty high. But that's also- I mean, even in the articles about it, it specifically says it's mostly because these companies are not going to have to pay health care. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:29 So that isn't- I don't like that being high. But also- That does not bode well for us. Also, The Passion of the Christ is the top-rated movie of all time? Yeah. No. No, no, no, yeah. It's number 32.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Haven't you ever seen The Passion of the Christ, the re-christening? No, I've never seen the sequel. That was the direct-to-video sequel. Ah, top-rated video. It was- it starred Polly Shore. So it's number 32, number 30. Don't crucify the weasel. Number 33 is The Secret Life of Pets.
Starting point is 00:35:05 So it's right around there. So I was thinking about it. I was like, hey, Alex, what you might have been saying is it set a box office record that has been beaten since then? Right. That's what I was thinking. So I was trying to be super fair. The Passion of the Christ came out in 2004.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Number 30 is Lord of the Rings Return of the King. That came out in 2003. So that can't work. Number 24 is Jurassic Park. That came out in 1993. Yeah, it just doesn't work. Lion King is 18. That came out in 94.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Yeah, it never was even close. Probably not even in the top five. Yeah, but among Christian evangelicals, that's what- That's mainly what he saw. Like I remember- Oh, liars. Yeah, yeah. I remember when my parents, when it came out, my parents were part of a whole church movement
Starting point is 00:35:49 where it's like, we have to go see The Passion of the Christ to support Christian values being put out in the world of Christian. Yeah. You mean the wildly anti-Semitic characters that- Okay, sorry. Sorry. Actually, The Passion of the Christ brings up something kind of interesting. My dad is a religious studies professor,
Starting point is 00:36:11 and he wrote an op-ed piece for the campus, or not campus paper, the city paper in Columbia, where we lived at the time. And I was in college- Columbia, Missouri. Yes, I was in college at the University of Missouri at the time. And I was walking by the Speaker's Circle, which is a place where it's supposed to celebrate free speech. You'd have protestors out there a lot, but basically it was just for this insane preacher
Starting point is 00:36:38 named Brother Jed to scream at people. Already a big fan. Your whores, that sort of stuff. Already a big fan. Yeah. Real fun for a day, and then super annoying after. Yeah, yeah, of course. But I was walking by, and I heard him screaming about my dad.
Starting point is 00:36:52 I was like, oh, this is a twist. So I didn't even know my dad had written this article about The Passion of the Christ. And so I went and he was screaming about how like, you can't expect to find truth at an institution where religious studies is taught by Professor Friesen. And I was like, whoa, all right, my man. And so I asked him, like after he got done preaching. Some civic notoriety. I like it.
Starting point is 00:37:14 After he got done preaching and he was having a cool down period. I walked up to him and was like, hey, you know, like I was curious, like you're screaming about my dad. I was just wondering, you know, he's like, what are you talking about? Like, you know, you're yelling about, you know, Professor Friesen. And they're like, away from me, spawn of Satan. All right, all right. Oh God, that's good stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Yeah. So that's the kind of stuff that real passion of the Christ fans love. Also, Alex, your audience is way smaller than you pretend. If you really look into it, his numbers are miniscule. Yeah. I recently checked back in on Quantcast to see if he had been growing at all. And he's not. No, no, no, not really at all.
Starting point is 00:37:55 How does I, his profile is so fucking high for such a meaningless number of people listening. It's so, it's so insane that he has this much influence to the point where he can be in the entire national consciousness. He is in the zeitgeist for a guy with not the mega zeitgeist. No, no, no. We can't get there. No. I don't even know if anybody can get there.
Starting point is 00:38:23 No. Beyond, I don't know, the passion of the Christ. Yeah. Cavizel. Yeah. Mega zeitgeist, Jim Cavizel. He was, he was great in that movie with that other thing. No, he, he's, he's nothing.
Starting point is 00:38:41 He's really nothing. And somehow he's turned that super small audience into a just like a constant talking point, less a, a valuable thing. Well, you know, the reason I think is because his actual audience is much larger than his going to his website and actually listening to him audience. There are a lot of people who don't listen to him who are Instinctively agreeing with. Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Okay. And so the damage that's being done and the chicanery that's being done by his actual, I listen to him fans. It resonates with the people who don't listen to him, but are already on that page. Yeah. The bigots of the world, the white nationalist type. Well, I'm sure, I'm sure any white nationalist, white supremacist, which somehow numbers very high in our country.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Yeah. Sees, sees that, that fucking asshole on TV saying, you know, Hillary for prisoner, whatever it is, and immediately that is something they agree with. So by him disseminating this, he extends his reach through, yeah, I get it. And that's the argument against having him on making Kelly, of course, see that makes the most sense is that there are latent bigots who will be exposed to him and he will get some. It's backwash, but he's going to get some liquid out of this.
Starting point is 00:40:10 And it's, it's all bad. It's the coconut juice of a backwash right there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Jordan. Yes. The main piece, the piece de resistance in this episode.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Is what I would describe as a massive rant in the middle of the episode. Of course. And I've split it up into two parts, just because otherwise it would be like seven minutes long. And this is where Alex is in full on martyr mode. He is prophesying his own demise. Oh yeah. Of course he's going to die.
Starting point is 00:40:46 They're going to target him. And this is, he tells the truth too much. But this is where I'm talking about the damage control. Like all the rest of this stuff is just, just so far has been like distractions making Kelly sucks or show sucks. All this stuff is just dismissiveness. I have a bigger audience. They need me, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:41:02 It's all ego stuff. But at this point it gets to like, I got to, I got to make sure. Oh no. I got to make sure people know that I'm laying my life down intentionally. All right. Because he knows that it's going to be bad. He knows that there's like, I was telling you before we started recording, I have a very strong theory that he accidentally said something on camera
Starting point is 00:41:24 that he knows he shouldn't have. I think that he exposed himself in a way that Megan Kelly probably didn't realize that he, what, what he said, I'm going to guess it won't be in the actual interview. But if I watched all four hours of that raw footage, I would find it. Yeah. I like, oh, shit. There it is. There it is.
Starting point is 00:41:42 I'm certain he knows that he said something and he's worried that it'll be in the actual thing. Not to the extent of like globalists aren't real or something like that. That would be fucking fantastic. That would be amazing. Just, just if it went in one clip, like he's just like, ah, you know, all this shit I say is dumb. Yeah. I don't believe any of this nonsense. Let's go get a steak.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Megan, come on. Let's get a steak. We're, we're playing the game here. Come on. It's nothing like that. But I'm, I'm pretty certain based on his, his attitudes that he's, he, he knows that he's in jeopardy, I believe. Anyway, here's the rant.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Here's my message and I'm going to get into it more to Megan Kelly, Chelsea Clinton, and all these other seahags of the new world order. Hates women. I'm not trying to get out of this alive, dumbasses. You don't need to start. I'm not trying to get out of this a winner in your system. I'm here to bring you down. I'm here to make you pay for the wars and the lies and the corruption and the Clinton
Starting point is 00:42:49 Foundation and all of it. Interesting list. That's why you keep missing the main calculation. So I wanted wars lies and the Clinton Foundation, a charitable organization, regardless of a very bad book though. Yeah. That title. I wanted to, I wanted to pause it right there because I, I agree not with anything he's
Starting point is 00:43:11 saying, except for what he said right there at the end. That is, this is why you miss the calculation. And I agree that everybody who covers him misses what his priorities are. He is, to a certain extent, a Kamikaze pilot. There is a reckless abandon about his public self image. He doesn't give a fuck if he's on NBC talking about how he doesn't believe in Sandy Hook. Yeah. He has a spin for it in place.
Starting point is 00:43:37 What he would care about is much different than that. What he would care about is the deconstruction of his ego and the deconstruction of the globalist myth. Those two things would really put him in jeopardy. Everything else is just nonsense. You want to bring up 9-11 to him? He's had 17 years, 16 years to really, really put some varnish on that piece of shit. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:02 He has, he has it all down, all the conspiracy stuff he's ironclad on. So you do miss the calculations whenever you're approaching him that way. But it's just because he's so far outside of what it is they can conceive of. Right. Like Megyn Kelly and, and like the, the greater media at large is, is still bound by a lot of things and they can't imagine somebody completely unbound by it. Like even Fox News still clings to some of those old ways. Some of those, like we have to at the very slightest have some sort of underpinning,
Starting point is 00:44:43 some sort of fact, some sort of small little thing that we can kind of glom onto. And Alex does not care. Nope, not at all. He'll just, he will just make shit up. And if you think you can catch him in that making shit up, he's going to make shit up about that. Yeah, totally. It is a never ending cycle.
Starting point is 00:45:04 And there's, there's no, like, and that's the thing you think in a normal, for a normal media figure sooner or later, there's going to be a break. There's going to be a moment where you have something to, to hold on to. And Alex is nothing. Alex is fucking smoke on the wind. Here's why. Loud, shitty smelling, male toxic vitality. Smells like X.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Oh, oh, he is, he is a whiff of X body spray. So, but here, here's why that's the case in all conventional news and almost every other facet of people who are pontificating or whatever, they have forces that keep them in check like sponsors, like the network, like FCC. Yeah. Alex Jones legit doesn't. He probably does have some sort of a billionaire benefactor that's backing him up. There probably is something like that.
Starting point is 00:46:01 You would assume so. But beyond that, he sells his own products. And the same way that Mercer backs up or props up Breitbart. Yeah. There's got to be something like that behind the scenes because his finances can't work otherwise. But be that as it may, the rest of it is he sells his own products that he, you know, ostensibly has a warehouse that he ships everything himself. He doesn't have sponsors that would ever betray him.
Starting point is 00:46:26 His, he's syndicated by a shady gold salesman who owns a radio network that's basically just Alex. So he's not going to abandon him. That's his cash cow. Yeah. He's got nothing to lose either. He is broadcast on a bunch of stations. Boycott a gold thing that you've never heard of.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Good luck. Yeah. So, but then he's broadcast on a bunch of radio stations that are under FCC control. But if those go away, who gives a shit? He's not getting paid for that. There's no syndication fee for info wars stuff. So he's not losing money there. And if every single one of his radio affiliates got lost, that would be the best thing ever for him.
Starting point is 00:47:03 He could claim that he's the biggest victim of censorship in the world. It would cause mass migration to his website. It would cause such a great swell of like the globalists are coming. They're making their move. I need you to buy my products. He doesn't lose any money. Share my YouTube videos. Do all of this stuff because I can't get the message out any other way.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Right. So all of these other people, even Sean Hannity, even Rush Limbaugh, all of these people have very serious market pressures that stop them from being out and out liars and bullshit artists. People can boycott their sponsors. People can make threats, things like that. The free market can touch them. Alex really can't, except by the people who have been tricked by him, stopping buying his products.
Starting point is 00:47:49 And the likelihood of that is very low. Yeah. Again, cult deprogramming. Yeah. Like you can't, you're much more likely to get a mass suicide than you are a mass exodus. Yep. Totally. So if you come at him with like this idea that you're going to shame him in some way,
Starting point is 00:48:08 that you would to somebody who has the same market pressures, you're delusional. He's never going to crack to that. Yeah. He's only going to crack to threats to his masculinity, threats to his ego, or threats to his globalist myth. Yeah. And even that third one is iffy, because he could just start yelling about a bunch of bullshit that probably isn't real, that you haven't researched.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Yeah. It's like putting a psychopath on trial for like 30 murders. If you can't definitively prove each and every one, he's going to deny them. He's going to deny all of them. For 20 years, you can put them in jail. He's just going to deny them because no matter what, he thinks he's smarter than you. Yep. He thinks he's better than you and that you are less of a human being than he is.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Mm-hmm. So it's, yeah. Yeah. The idea of trying to shame a psychopath is mind boggling. Yeah. Like you just don't understand that. You can't shame the shameless. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Exactly. He's fucking shameless as hell. Yeah. Trump has never been ashamed of anything. Nope. And that's where like finds like. Yeah. The deep in Alex calls to the deep in Trump.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Right. Within their souls. Anyway, let's get back to this rant. May precision guided heavy munition coming in on top of you. I'm here to stand up for the innocence. I don't like you. I don't like you getting away with what you do. You make me sick.
Starting point is 00:49:35 So I hit the barbed wire and everybody else comes in over me. Have you seen what we've done how talk radio now sounds just like me? Have you seen how the president sounds just like me? Yeah. You seen how Stephen Bannon sounds just like me? No. Have you seen how the whole paradigm globally shifting and you can't hold it back? You can destroy leaders.
Starting point is 00:49:56 You can destroy me. But you can't stop the signal of Americana. And all I did was bring back Americana Renaissance 2.0. Selling that freedom prosperity. Americana Renaissance 2.0. Justice. That's a lot of renaissance. God will.
Starting point is 00:50:14 That's a counter counter renaissance. Compassion. Kinship. Friendship. Duty. To your globalism a bunch of vampires that hate each other screwing everyone over. Trying to be the top yurtle the turtle on your power trips. What?
Starting point is 00:50:34 I'm going to need that. My ego isn't big. My vision of humanity is big. My ego is in humanity. My ego is in the genetics. My ego is in my ancestors, my family, my children, and my future progeny and yours together. I love humanity because I'm so selfish. I believe in it because I know it's me and it's you and us together.
Starting point is 00:50:58 It sounds completely selfless. It's totally selfish. And you have no idea because you don't know God. So this is where we'll take our first break in the lamp. 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:09,840 Yeah. This gets back to his my ancestors are me. White.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Kind. Well, no, but who cares about that part of it for right now because it's even weirder. It is even weirder. He does talk often about how like your offspring are just you and like race memory and stuff like that. That's true. I believe that he thinks that you live on through your ancestors. I think that that is. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:34 This is a new fun wrinkle. I think that that might be what he's getting. It's hard to tell with Alex often when he's talking metaphorically or literally, but he's brought this up enough times that I think when he talks about like, I'm being selfish. I'm not being selfless trying to let the species continue. I'm being selfish because I am the species and I don't think he means my genes will carry on. I think he thinks my great grandson will be me or something along those lines.
Starting point is 00:52:03 All right. There's some sort of a reincarnation thing going on that I buy, I buy him believing in reincarnation of some sort. It's possible, but if he does, it's really stupid that he doesn't just spell it out because that's not too weird a thing to believe. Well, yeah. But if you, if you espouse ostensibly Christian beliefs ostensibly, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Well, as, as we've documented, not really. God damn it. If we know what he actually believes in some weird sex, sure as fuck isn't Christianity. So the other thing in that clip, it's really important is he's talking about like, do you notice that talk radio is becoming me? The president has become me and it's not fair. It's not real.
Starting point is 00:52:42 It's not true. The, he's become Bannon. Yeah. I think that, I think you're right. That's a much better way of putting it. Alex was a latent bigot and he is in our investigation in 2015. If we flash back to that time period, he never says Americana. He never says Renaissance 2.0.
Starting point is 00:53:03 He never talks about any of the things that he talks about now. He's a completely different person in terms of the, the like the catchphrases, the, the memes as it were, that he, he throws out those little speech memes that he has completely different and it all changes with Trump. He did not, like everybody has not become him. He has become part of all that. Now, unfortunately it is sort of homogenous to a certain extent, all of it, which is white nationalism.
Starting point is 00:53:37 These people have that in common. Their priority is straight white Christian men. That is what like, that is the thread that ties between the, the rebel media. Right. The Alex Jones, the zero hedge, the, the. And that's, and that's another thing that, and we were, we were texting about this. I have the specific statistics in front of me on NBC, on any major network, they were, they will never actively point out this is a white nationalist movement and not, and
Starting point is 00:54:08 that's, they'll point out the white nationalist Nazis, those small groups, but they'll never point to the fact that they're not how dapper they look. But they'll never point out that it is the entirety. Yeah. It is not a small amount. It is not these fringe groups. It is either, those guys are just the ones who are out about it. That's it.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Yeah. And that's the reality that my, my hypothetical interview with Alex Jones would also take on is that I would like to elucidate to the audience that he doesn't care about the conspiracy theories nearly as much as he cares about white identity and masculinity. Those are two things that he really, really cares about. And when he gets worked up, it's usually about those things. Yeah. So to my estimation from my now six months of intense research on him.
Starting point is 00:54:58 You poor bastard. My operating like theory that I think is bearing out is the conspiracy stuff is intentional. It's a glittery seductive element to get people to pay attention and think that he's someone who tells the truth about stuff. Then once you're in all of these white narratives start to come up. All of this victim hood narratives, everything about how like white people are the real oppressed race. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:26 That sort of stuff. It all comes up and that's the main function of what he's doing. He's tricking people into buying his survival goods, formerly gold. And then now also more importantly, radicalizing dudes into white nationalism. Yeah. And whether that's intentional or not. And whether that was the case years ago, I'm not sure, but it absolutely is now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Which again, that is the problem. That is the problem. The Sandy Hook bullshit is a symptom of it. What we should be fighting is not why are you mean to Sandy Hook victims or why are you fucking ruining their lives and like not to minimize that at all. But the larger issue, the thing that nobody is fucking dealing with is white supremacy. Because that is the problem. And just to make it clear that I'm not just talking shit here, I have pulled up the statistics
Starting point is 00:56:30 from Quantcast of demographic breakdowns of all of the sources that Alex Jones respects. He doesn't really cite Breitbart articles all that much anymore. I don't know what happened between them, but there's some sort of a they're not, they're not on his, his regular news rotation. But info and probably stop Trump from talking to him. It could be. Or maybe he hasn't fired previous and you know, Alex's cross about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:58 So info, info wars itself is 78% male, the audience, 22% female. That is incredibly disproportionate to the demographics of the America, the America, the America. If you want to look at it, like a normal breakdown should be very close to 50, 50. If you look at representative samples, there's a reason that this show specifically appeals to dudes. Further, it's 83% white, 3% African American. So that, I mean, the population is something to the effect of like 13% African American.
Starting point is 00:57:30 You would expect something much closer to that if it wasn't a massive aberration. Now beyond that, the audience is something to the tune of right around 60% over the age of 45. So we've discussed that before in the past, but that's an update because the numbers have changed a tiny bit. Now you look at the sources that he trusts and he cites. We have world news daily, 74% male, 26% female, 86% Caucasian, 4% African American, 65% over the age of 45. So sort of a similar picture.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Yep. Zero hedge, 88% male, 12% female, 83% Caucasian, 2% African American, something around 55% over the age of 45. Drudge report, which is the most popular of all these sites that I've listed, 89% male, 11% female. Jesus fucking Christ. 90% Caucasian, 1% African American. Yep.
Starting point is 00:58:39 Wow. 73% over the age of 45. Of course. All of these places that Alex Jones deems credible. Are you saying that old white men might be part of the issue? Yeah. And I mean, there are, just because 60% is over the age of 45, that doesn't mean that 40% isn't. So it's not like there's nobody under those ages, but a massive demographic block of plurality
Starting point is 00:59:06 for sure of the audiences of every place that Alex Jones deems credible and not part of the fake news, the dinosaur media, the enemy media, all of those places are heavily white, older dudes. And that's not a coincidence. There's a reason that all of these places are networked together. And unfortunately, Quantcast doesn't have public statistics for Breitbart, but I imagine it's pretty much the same. Yeah. So I mean, like, you understand what I'm getting at here is that this is a self resonating echo
Starting point is 00:59:41 chamber of white narratives, especially white male narratives. And they realize that they have no danger in spelling out those narratives. They're totally fine to be as flippant and dismissive of Charleston as a shooting because. Who's going to speak out? Right. That he doesn't already agree with them. That 89% male audience, that 87% white audience is probably no one's going to, they're like, yeah, it sucks, but it's not that big of a deal.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Maybe it was fake. The worst, the worst they could get out of that is somebody saying, well, I'm not going to pay attention to this one. Right. Or you might have someone who's like, eh, Alex is getting to be a little much for me. And they drift from the fold, but they're not going to. To drudge report. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Right. Where you're lured back in. Exactly. You see a Mark Dice video up there that Alex has planted and now you're back in the cycle. Yep. It's, um, it's, it's completely nuts. I don't know how else to put it. It like when I stumbled.
Starting point is 01:00:43 It's as white as Augusta national. You know what I'm saying? Ah, is that a Trump golf course? No, it's the, it's the Trump golf courses are wider. It's what, yeah, that's true. It's one of the old fashioned boys club. We don't allow women golf courses. When I stumbled across the statistics about info wars a ways back and I saw that I was
Starting point is 01:01:04 like, yeah, that checks out. That makes sense. Yeah. It's crazy, but that makes sense. The drudge report one is really scary because that is a very popular website. Yeah. And to see that it's demographically so homogenous is, is, uh, it's very troubling. And when I saw that all of those sites had incredibly similar demographic patterns,
Starting point is 01:01:24 I realized that a lot of these people are probably the same people. Yeah. They have to be. And it's all self-reinforcing because they play the same stories. They play the same narratives. And you're like, well, Alex said this and I don't know if I trust it. Let me check. So they can go to Drudge.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Let me check. Drudge. Oh, Drudge. Drudge confirms it. Yep. Not realizing that they're all in this together. It's all a massive propaganda campaign targeting white, uh, fragility. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:50 White male fragility. And it's, they're exactly the same as ISIS. Yes. That is exactly what's going on here. That's kind of the point I wanted to get to. Yeah. Yeah. Jesus fucking Christ.
Starting point is 01:02:02 And the only difference is that Alex is dog whistly about his calls for violence. Right. He is really desperately trying to get people to start fighting. Yeah. But he has to be very coded about it and very, uh, because when he is to overt things happen, like the guy who showed up a comic ping pong with a gun and pulled off a shot. Or the people who constantly harassed the Sandy Hook victim. Or there was a guy who after Alex Jones, uh, did all his stuff about Bohemian Grove,
Starting point is 01:02:33 there was a guy who tried to sneak in with a bunch of guns and he was going to kill everybody at Bohemian Grove. Yeah. So, I mean, like when, whenever he does this stuff, if he's too overt, there are people who follow what he says and those people, uh, are a real danger and he knows that it can be tied back to him. So, if there, if there is a, if there is a white nationalist suicide bomber, he will not say, oh, he's a hero. He's a martyr.
Starting point is 01:03:04 No. But he'll say, you know, what? He'll say it was fake. Yeah. Yeah. That's what it'll do. He'll say it was, you know, he was on amnesiac drugs or something like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:14 They hit him with that, what's that South, uh, South American drug that you, you know, that, that demon drug, you just blow it in someone's face and then they're a zombie. They saw something on vice about it. Yeah. Yeah. 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:24,720 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:24,720
Starting point is 00:00:36 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:24,720 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:25,220 Yeah. 01:03:25,220 --> 01:03:25,220 01:03:25,220 --> 01:03:25,220 01:03:25,220 --> 01:03:25,720 Yeah. 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:25,720
Starting point is 00:00:36 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:26,220 Yeah. 01:03:26,220 --> 01:03:26,720 Yeah. You know, like there, that would be his storyline. Yeah. He's like, you know, it's the globalists got this white guy to do it to set up the Patriots. Of course. Which is the story every time a white person does it, or he just doesn't talk about it.
Starting point is 01:03:37 Again, as we've discussed, he still has never apologized for insisting that it was a Muslim who shot up that mosque in Quebec a couple months back. Yep. He is not at all, he said, I know that it was a Muslim, turns out it was a white guy. Uh, he just doesn't, he, whenever I say he's a racist and this show is about white identity, it sounds crazy to some extent. And I understand that it sounds crazy because he doesn't say like the N word. He doesn't say black people are stupid or anything like that.
Starting point is 01:04:10 And he has safe harbor because of that. But in the same way that Comey in his testimony said, President Trump didn't tell me to stop the investigation, but there were all these insinuations that I hope you'll stop. Yeah. These sorts of things. Alex can say, I'm not racist. I didn't say these things.
Starting point is 01:04:28 I say that we're all humans with all red blood and all this stuff. But the trappings of it, the way he deals with a white death versus a minority death, the anger that he has towards trans people and anything that's an aberration from what he deems normal, all of that is so clear that he's a bigot. Anyway, his reign is not done. We have to get to the second point. Oh, okay. All right.
Starting point is 01:04:53 So here we go. I'm protected fools. I'm talking to the evil ones. I will be around until God wants me gone. And then no matter what happens, I know it's God's plan. So no matter what you do to me, I rejoice in it. Even though my flesh doesn't like it, my soul, my spirit loves it. I'm so alive, it's unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:05:16 My discernment is so deep and piercing now, I can't even stand it. And I look at you, you fallen monsters, and I realize what jokes you are. And I thank God every millisecond at my cellular level that I am not with you and your damn to hell system. Praise God for that. Nah, I'm good. I'm going to let that one go. So I get to my message.
Starting point is 01:05:43 I'm kind of doing it now, but I'm going to come back and really focus and do it because it's important because it's not this interview and it's not Megan Kelly. This is their big gamble. This is their big take Alex Jones down. This is pathetic. The only way I could fail was not doing it and letting them rig it and letting me for four hours to edit it together. And then be able to show people what was really said.
Starting point is 01:06:12 No idea what that means or how that would work. Or what you would do walking right into a trap. Even told them they were, but they think they're winners. They think they're invincible. They think as they hoard more money or can like try to put me down in the mud that they have a victory while they're busy shoving me down in the mud. Everybody's overrunning them. And I'm making it safe for everybody else to speak out just like Trump's doing on a much bigger scale.
Starting point is 01:06:42 So when he says that he is telling the truth in some ways, but what he's making it okay for people to speak out about is I'm freaked out by Muslims. That's the sort of thing that he's the anti PC stuff that he's doing isn't actual like against political correctness. It's I'm making bigotry okay again. Yeah. And I kind of agree with him and that's why we do this show. Yeah. What else what else happened during the the fucking Trump campaign?
Starting point is 01:07:11 It was just all out and out bigotry or cruelty because like it's not necessarily bigotry to make fun of the handicap reporter and shit. That's just cruel. Yeah. I mean it's it's ableist, but I don't know if that's is that kind of bigotry? I don't know. It's an interesting question. I don't think now is a good time for us to try and figure that out.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Let's not litigate that. Yeah. Let's finish this clip. And that's why they hate him and why they sell the hoax. He's falling and why they sell the hoax that he's a criminal and why they sell the hoax. And they've got the former lawyers that went after Enron, you know, in there. Wait, is that good or bad? Trump's on an island all alone.
Starting point is 01:07:50 It's not against Enron. You don't want to be with him. Be with the mainstream media. Then you'll be with the winning team. Even though the mainstream media wants you to lose. Once you pour, once you under their control, represent the criminals. Even though Trump actually wants to empower you and cut your taxes and bring the jobs back. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:08:06 You're a failure if you're with Trump. Be a winner. Join MSM. Lame. It is a total and complete test. It is a total and complete system to see if they can break your will and then make you believe that you're joining the winning team by going against Trump.
Starting point is 01:08:26 It's all a giant test. But it doesn't matter because if you look at things as they go in waves, we're destroying them in this wave. It's the next wave that will completely annihilate the enemy. So that idea that it's a test is really bizarre. But that's how he has to frame it to his audience. Well, that's stay strong.
Starting point is 01:08:48 Stay strong. That's the evangelical message all the time, though. It's always, you know, this life is just preparation for the next. So this whole thing is just a game. Yeah. And he's using Trump to be that, which I think might be slightly sacrilegious in undertone. But beyond that, I don't understand his conception where it's like,
Starting point is 01:09:12 you're either with me or you're with the mainstream media. There's a middle ground. There's, I can, I can reject most of both. Not anymore. Pick a side, Dan. Well, then I wholeheartedly support the mainstream media. If that's the choices. Oh, Dan.
Starting point is 01:09:29 Look, Dan, you're betraying your ideals. How? Because I support the existence of the media as opposed to the existence of Alex. I would say that at the same time, it's not counter. It's not counterproductive. It's not counterintuitive to say that mainstream media gets it wrong a lot. Yeah. That's it's stupid.
Starting point is 01:09:48 But there's there at this point, there's nothing maybe that needs to be more protected. Like today, you can't have cameras recording the GOP answers in the Senate. They won't show you the bill they're writing. Because quote, we're not stupid. Yeah. Exactly. 01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:09,040 Because quote, we're going to murder people.
Starting point is 01:10:09 That might as well be the fucking words that they say. Totally. And all of this stuff is keeping this like, there's a really good reason that freedom of the press is in there. Yeah. I know you want to say freedom of speech is the First Amendment, but freedom of the press is a big deal. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Because in countries where they don't have it, like ones that have influenced our election. Sure. Or ones that employed our former national security ahead. Exactly. You wind up getting journalists murdered for reporting the truth. Yep. And that is that is the that is the point. That's the danger and that's where we're fucking headed.
Starting point is 01:10:50 See, a system can and it's it sounds it sounds hyper hyperbolic. It really does to a lot of people that like, no, America still has protections in place. We don't know the rule of law is gone. Well, I mean, that's something that people were saying, you know, even before the election and as it was happening was that the institutions and like principles that we have are only as strong as the people who are in place. Right. And and there's so many of them that were traditions are meaningless.
Starting point is 01:11:20 If you don't uphold them. Yeah. So and there's so many that were apparently unwritten. So this this whole idea of like, well, they're breaking norms. Maybe we should have written that shit down. Yeah. Because maybe we wouldn't be fucked. Well, well, the thing about the press too is that like, but that's the thing.
Starting point is 01:11:39 People don't believe that psychopaths want to do this. People don't understand psychopaths because that's what these guys are. They have no feelings. They have no emotions. They don't give a fuck about you. They don't pretend to know like this. This game of, you know, a general belief in the humanity, in the fundamental decency of the people who want to, you know, run for office who want this power because you think,
Starting point is 01:12:11 you know, the people you know, the majority of us are good people. Sure. So it's hard to conceive of somebody so far beyond that who, and that's, and that's why we're fascinated by serial killers is because of this. Like I can't believe in this. I can't believe that a person who looks like a human being is not. Yeah. And that's why it's fun to watch documentaries.
Starting point is 01:12:39 Not fun to live in the world right now. No, no, no, no, not a big fan. So, but, but to the point about the press too, a robust, healthy democracy, Republic, whatever, it can contain a liar who's not punished. Like Alex Jones can exist within a free speech, free press paradigm very easily and has for 20 years and he's still not going to get arrested for the nonsense he's spouting. It's totally fine, but we can't have people who are legitimate reporters being demonized. That the system can't contain.
Starting point is 01:13:13 Right. Like that will implode everything. So the, the, as we are watching unfold and the, the other, the other thing too, and this is the reality of it. Alex Jones's game can't be scrutinized. Like it can't really survive people actually paying attention to it. So he has to demonize the media as a self preservation tactic because if people start paying attention, if we had funding to legitimately do this every day, document what he's saying,
Starting point is 01:13:47 create this database that I'm working on of the narratives that he's pitched that were complete lies over the years, he'd just be like, he'd be a laughing stock. If the mainstream media really took their critical comb that they wash over, I think that metaphor got away from me, but if they, if they scrutinized him the way they scrutinized real stories, he would be screwed. And that's why he has to create like, oh, they're evil. They're fake. It's all, it's all desperate, uh, self preservation.
Starting point is 01:14:18 Yeah. Again, it's preemptive damage control, but on a large, uh, never ending scale. Yeah. So this next clip, uh, Alex wants to talk about how making Kelly's ugly. But he wants, but, but there's a twist. Okay. He wants to sound smart. Oh no.
Starting point is 01:14:37 And I think he just learned the word Gorgon. These, uh, ratings are sinking. Her rate, her ratings were sinking at Fox. She destroyed herself going after Trump. And so they think having Mr. Controversy on, because I get top ratings anytime on, on, on a national TV, they think that will boost her. Suck your organs. Highest ratings ever were when I was on, but even Megan told me privately,
Starting point is 01:15:02 or she thought privately that, oh, I destroyed him because after I was on his program, his ratings started dropping every day consecutively. Because we just call these folks out. And so Megan Kelly's playing with fire, obviously. And nothing can save her show. Nothing can save mainstream media. A mainstream media has abysmally low ratings. They've gone up a little bit attacking Trump because it makes media interesting again.
Starting point is 01:15:27 But compared to 10 years ago, they're a shadow of the former self. You know, I went into the Gorgons layer. I went into Medusa's palace. And I, I engaged her on her terms. I let her be here from 930 in the morning. She got here at noon, but her crew at 930 until almost 11 at night. I let her have her way because I knew it'd be rigged. I knew she was lying to me.
Starting point is 01:15:49 I knew she was deceiving. I knew it was a giant hit piece, but they wanted me to go happily along with it and say nothing before it aired. I'm not going to do that. But understand, I win by going in to the Gorgons pit and I survive. I survive going into that layer and that's what it's all about. In fact, she hit over there in the dark. She hit over there in the dark when she first got here, slithering in like the Gorgon.
Starting point is 01:16:19 Let's play some of that with audio of her coming into the studio last week. Now he plays a clip from Jason of the Argonauts. 01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:26,800 01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:27,300 Clever. Clever. Clever. Clever.
Starting point is 01:16:28 01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:29,300 Clever. 01:16:29,300 --> 01:16:29,800 Clever. Clever. Clever. Clever. Clever.
Starting point is 01:16:31 Clever. Clever. Clever. Clever. Clever. Clever. Clever. Clever.
Starting point is 01:16:35 Clever. Clever. Clever. Clever. Clever. 01:16:38,220 --> 01:16:38,920 Clever. Clever.
Starting point is 01:16:39 Clever. Clever. Clever. Clever. Clever. Clever. Clever. Clever.
Starting point is 01:16:47 Clever. Clever. Clever. Clever. Clever. Clever. Clever. Clever.
Starting point is 01:16:55 Clever. Clever. Clever. Clever. Clever. Clever. Clever. Clever.
Starting point is 01:17:01 Clever. Clever. Clever. Ooh, that doesn't feel good. Cold as ice. A titan? Willing to sacrifice. Against the titan.
Starting point is 01:17:10 Our luck. See, to get to the globalist, I've got to get the Gorgon's head. And then I can turn to the titan. Soros. Look into the Gorgon's eyes. Look into it yourself. I face the Gorgon. Megan Kelly in studio.
Starting point is 01:17:37 It is true, when she was in studio, she was like back there in the dark. Do you mean everywhere that's not lit? Well, we know how it all ends, ladies and gentlemen. That's how you run a show. You don't like the whole fucking place. That's part two coming up. Now, before I go any further, just briefly. We're less or supported under major globalist attack.
Starting point is 01:17:58 We make it easy to support us. Give us money. Yeah. We've done six times in that clip. He likes the word Gorgon. It's fun. It is a fun word. I do.
Starting point is 01:18:08 That was, that was a fun, dumb little thing that he did. Yeah, yeah. Like that's way better than I expected. That was a silly fucking. It's, it's an indication that he doesn't have much. No, but at the same time, like even, even in the middle of that, she's a keen, keen bow woman. Bow woman.
Starting point is 01:18:30 That was him going into his arrow sheath and finding nothing. He's just trying to pull out something to insult her with. Couldn't come up with archer. But yeah, that's, that's like, I mean, it's petty. He's trying to say that she's ugly and all this. But, and I don't, I'm not down with that, but at the same time that's just Alex. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:53 That's classic Alex. We can all have fun with that because the rest of this isn't going to be very fun. Oh, why are you doing this? So here he wants to attack liberals. I want weird ass Jason and the Argonauts. Alex back. Sure.
Starting point is 01:19:06 Well, it happened yesterday. So also I wanted to cover like the most up to date, uh, Megan Kelly stuff. Uh, and, uh, on Tuesday while we're recording this, Oh, and Shroyer was hosting. So we, this is the most up to date as we're recording this. So Oh, and Shroyer was hosting. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:19:24 He's trying to get him ready for his own TV show on the network. That's never going to happen. The whole thing. It's tough. Oh. Oh, and Shroyer is going to make a brief appearance at the end of our episode today and it's insanity. Okay.
Starting point is 01:19:36 Uh, but this next clip, he gets really self-conscious about people thinking he's being, uh, using dirty words. I guess to defend himself. Dumb ass. Nope. You'll see. But then it spirals out of control into talking about how liberals are dumb.
Starting point is 01:19:54 Uh, and it, it gets away from him. And that's what's scary about leftists is they claim they're all intellectual and they're really great. And they're awesome. They're not. They're a bunch of drooling, peeling, miscreant, malcontent boobies. Now, before I go any further, that's not profane to say boobies.
Starting point is 01:20:12 Boobies is a, is a South China Sea multi-thousand year old name for pirates. That's what they have a term booby trap. The boobies also would set traps. It would pop up like we do in Vietnam with spikes and kill you. No FCC problems with me saying boobies. I don't like the way you said it there. All you that think you're so, so-called intellectuals that are
Starting point is 01:20:37 liberals need to understand you're not intellectuals. You, you're imagining you're part of a winning team. You're imagining you're part of the globalist system. You're imagining you conquered America. You're imagining how you're going to teach those three-year-olds, you know, how to, how to perform sex acts on you. That's what they teach in public schools now. And you're just not going to get away with it.
Starting point is 01:20:56 Three-year-olds don't go to public schools. You can't teach somebody who's not there. People that are in their own fantasy land that wealth produced, that did all of this wealth that freedom produced created a bunch of super spoiled brats. The seventh brat of the seventh brat. And now you're just running around foaming at the mouth. Gleeful behavior.
Starting point is 01:21:22 And it's not going to work forever. It's coming down. Here's the big news coming up though with Dr. Jerome Corsi. Video emerges of Seth Branch questioning ballot integrity. I'm sure that's a conspiracy theory video too. It is. But I love, I love that you got that. That, I mean, that was probably my biggest point is three-year-olds
Starting point is 01:21:44 are not in school. No, they are not in public school. No. And no one's teaching three-year-olds to have, no one's teaching anyone sex acts at school. No one even could teach a three-year-old sex act. I think that the only, like sex acts might be taught at school by peers.
Starting point is 01:21:59 You know what I mean? Like they might be like, hey, you know about sucking dicks. Like your friend might tell you that or something like that. Teachers are not broaching that at all from my experience in public schools. And I'm sure your experience was similar. Right. There is a sex ed talk.
Starting point is 01:22:17 There's a class. It is health class. Mine was very a anti sex period. Very much. Yeah. Teachers are uncomfortable as hell. Yeah. I remember there was a girl in my class who was like laughing at
Starting point is 01:22:29 something and the teacher fucking freaked out on her. He was just like, if you keep laughing, you're going to be taking notes for the rest of the class or you're going to be getting out of here. Like he was trying to keep things really on lock. Yeah. There's like, I got to get through talking about condoms. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:44 To these fucking middle schoolers. I don't want to do this. No one's happy about this. No one. Look, I wasn't three. No one's teaching anybody anything. But the more important thing at the end there is Dr. Corsi has big breaking news about Seth Rich.
Starting point is 01:23:00 Can we not do that guys? Guys, let that one go. Here's why they really should have let it go. I'm about to play you the video that they play and you know, maybe you can decide if it's if it means anything. Okay. Let's play the Seth Rich Club. You know, the guy that got gunned down on the back.
Starting point is 01:23:17 Here's the video. They don't want you to see of him questioning ballot integrity dealing with them stealing the election from Bernie Sanders. Here it is. Excuse me, Seth Rich with the DNC. I think so whoever you've spoken about provisional ballot ballots and rejected ballots. I guess we've looked at as an outside practitioner with a vested
Starting point is 01:23:36 interest in training our, our voters. How do we get better access to data that tells us why ballots are rejected? What's our cast as provisional so that we can analyze that and then develop better training guides? Can one of the election officials speak to any work you've done with either the parties or other groups on that type of information? Again, that's the video that's emerged of Seth Rich questioning
Starting point is 01:23:59 that was it. That was it. That was it. Murdered. That was the whole thing. Seth Rich questioning ballot integrity. That was the big deal. During the election data summit.
Starting point is 01:24:07 That's nothing. Corsi. That's nothing. Corsi. You're supposed to be an expert. That's nothing. That's an absolute zero. He's talking about provisional ballots and trying to better train
Starting point is 01:24:20 the public how to use provisional ballots, which is a good thing to be asking about because it is a complicated issue. Quite frankly, I don't know if I would know how to send in a provisional ballot. Absolutely not. So I wouldn't mind some education. Could you explain why ballots get rejected is an amazingly good question.
Starting point is 01:24:41 Right. And that has nothing to do with some sort of a setup against Bernie Sanders has nothing to do with even questioning the integrity of voting. No. So they're just lying. That's just all. So I want to flash back to a little bit earlier in the episode
Starting point is 01:24:56 when Alex Jones was talking about I'm so alive. It's crazy. My discernment is better than it's ever been. How is your discernment allowing you to report on this video as something nefarious? You understand? Yeah. It's insane.
Starting point is 01:25:10 Yeah. That's bad discernment. So Jerome Corsi is on and most of it is about how he needs to listen to more chance the rapper. He needs a more holistic discernment. I don't I don't not support that. So the Corsi is on and they just talk about how Alex is the victim of a propaganda campaign and how making Kelly is doing
Starting point is 01:25:34 her job by coming to assassinate the character of Alex Jones. A couple of big things happen. The first is that Jerome Corsi finally says meme correctly. Oh well then fuck it. I'm back on his side baby. He says mem I mean meme. Fuck yes. Then not five minutes later.
Starting point is 01:25:56 That means there was a conversation with somebody like it had to be Rob do just being like hey Corsi. It's pronounced meme. Not five minutes later. Like a fucking idiot. He says mem again. Corsi. So that's great.
Starting point is 01:26:12 But this I was I was referring to earlier in the episode I teased that Alex Jones was going to jump the shark. Yes. And in this clip Alex Jones invalidates his career. What should Trump do? I mean he needs to get aggressive. Call them out sessions. He's to start indicting some of these people.
Starting point is 01:26:29 Well the presidency has enormous power and Trump better start using it. Better start realizing that in Washington all these people are his enemies. He's got to fire previous. Don't wait until the end of June as he says he's going to give him more time. Just fire him.
Starting point is 01:26:44 Get rid of all the people in the administration who have been there from Clinton and from Obama. Get rid of them. So far okay. Also get rid of those people and then bring in a bunch of sycophants who will tell you that everything you're doing is right. So far though still totally legal.
Starting point is 01:27:02 Still not the most insane thing ever. I think it would be unwise and probably lead to a lot of trouble. But not the worst thing I've ever heard. No. I do like that Jerome Corsi is his office the Infowars Studio in DC. You could hear a motorcycle revving outside.
Starting point is 01:27:21 So real real quality acoustics in there. But now we get to. God I want him to have a picture not hanging. That would be the best. That would be amazing. He just had a running gag. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:34 Yeah. That would be like a weird little Easter egg across like a director has the same little tiny shot. That could be his little wink that like I'm not. Yeah. I'm fucking around. Yeah. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:27:46 So this is where it gets bad and start using the Department of Justice and the FBI to investigate. Comey Clinton and the others fight back counterattack. Absolutely. Look this is such addition against the country in the attempted overthrow of our republic by clear outside forces. I'd support the president right now moving against these people physically.
Starting point is 01:28:04 I mean let's be honest. We're in a war. I would support the president making a military move on him right now. The country's in that bigger crisis. We need to go ahead and move. So there Alex Jones in one sentence invalidates the entire premise of his career.
Starting point is 01:28:19 We need to have the government take military action against its people. No against its own enemies. Yeah. Which conceivably would be some private citizens. I would assume the media would fall into that because they're talking about people who are pushing this Russian meme propaganda that they they think the Russian stuff is all
Starting point is 01:28:39 fake. Of course. I think even though they know it's not. Totally. But here's the thing. Jerome Corsi saying fire all these people is OK. It's wrong but it's OK. Him saying we need to indict Comey Clinton Obama is an
Starting point is 01:28:56 abuse of power. But it's not that bad. Him. The idea of the president telling the FBI to do this. Yeah. Is a gross misrepresentation of what the president's relationship to the FBI should be. Should be.
Starting point is 01:29:12 Yeah. And but it's especially not if he's under investigation currently. It's very bad. But at the same time it's because of how the sentence ends. It's kind of in the wheelhouse of like. All right. That's abuse of power.
Starting point is 01:29:24 But we got to hold off because Alex Jones legitimately just said a military coup cleaning out acting on the people who are against Trump with the military. He has made documentary films called the road to tyranny. Things like that. Yeah. Everything that he talks about is about his entire. It's fine if I do it.
Starting point is 01:29:49 His entire premise is that like these globalists are going to have some sort of a coup. Well yeah. So we need a counter counter counter counter coup. It's not OK. It's absolutely not OK. That is that is he says it again later in the episode but I ran out of time cutting clips.
Starting point is 01:30:07 I didn't didn't get to it. But he absolutely didn't say that flippantly. He meant it. No he did. He meant that the military needs to get involved in. I don't know what the military would be doing first of all acting within the country's borders. I think that's part of what he was really afraid about with the
Starting point is 01:30:23 gender or not gender 21 Jade Helm. Yeah. Absolutely. I think that's something that is that's problematic. And then secondarily that's literally Caesar. Yeah. That's quite literally what Caesar did to seize power. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:37 So the other thing is what would the military do against these people other than kill them. Like the military is going to arrest them. Put them in Abu Ghraib man. Sure. There's openings. Yeah. Put them in Guantanamo Bay.
Starting point is 01:30:52 That to me is one of the most offensive things I've ever heard Alex Jones say and is something I would bring up in my Megan Kelly style interview. Is that why do you support the idea of your guy having a military coup. Why. Because that's that's that's what it that's what he called for.
Starting point is 01:31:11 Yeah. That's not that he said bring military action. But acting upon these people physically. Yeah. What are you what beat them up. What else is there to say. What is there. That's that's so like that's crossing a huge line.
Starting point is 01:31:29 Yeah. Now thankfully that's not going to happen. Yeah. All this all this idea all this idea of free market all of this like less government is all gone. Yeah. The moment the moment you want a military coup all of that's done and you want a military coup to stop an
Starting point is 01:31:47 investigation that has a lot of evidence behind it. Yeah. That your guy is wildly corrupt and working with a hostile foreign power. Yeah. So the idea that you would do that is only because you know that eventually something is going to come out that is going to be irrefutable.
Starting point is 01:32:01 And I mean Alex does kind of know that he has to. Well I mean in 2015 he knew he was mobbed up in 2015 he knew that he was the front man for a consortium on the East Coast. He knows all this. Consortium that launder's Russian money. Yeah. That he can't pretend he doesn't know that that knowledge
Starting point is 01:32:19 that he had two years ago is still in his head. He's just pretending it's not there anymore. He's pretending he doesn't know these things. So whenever he talks about like this Russian thing is fake he knows it's not and the idea that in order to stop it you would want the president to order the military to act physically upon his opponents is that is treason that is wishing treason.
Starting point is 01:32:44 Yeah. I'm not saying Alex is committing treason but that is wishing the destruction of the American Republic entirely in the name of protecting it which is I mean that's what all scoundrels. Classic move. That's what Erdogan did in Turkey. Totally.
Starting point is 01:32:59 That's exactly what he did. Fake coup. That's what the cultural revolution was about in China. All of these authoritarian powers will always say you don't need these rights. We are going to protect you. Yeah. These are the ones who can do all of this stuff so you
Starting point is 01:33:16 don't need to think about it. And we've got to do it because these other fake people are trying to take me out. Yeah. Absolutely. So we're protecting the country. So Alex Jones put it that way in this clip but in case you're a nerd he put it another way in this next clip.
Starting point is 01:33:30 But here's the issue. You've got to look at this whole thing is that the deep state is planning an assassination. They're desensitizing the public with this assassination with the Kathy Griffin. I knew he was going to bring up Kathy Griffin. I knew it. Alex you've got to be taken out or made to be seemed to be a
Starting point is 01:33:48 Russian agent and that's what Megan Kelly's assignment was. Hey Corsi what was that big story that you were going to get killed over? This is an assignment. This is deep state. This is the entire backing of the inner forces within the government that are opposing Donald Trump. Later learned to use the power of the presidency now.
Starting point is 01:34:10 Fire Prevus get rid of the Obama and Clinton carryovers and start using the Department of Justice and the FBI. Absolutely. He needs to execute Order Number 66. Alright thank you so much Dr. Corsi we'll have our members of the crew in studio. That was for the nerds. He called for Trump to kill the Jedi.
Starting point is 01:34:32 If you're keeping track. If you're keeping track. Order 66 in the Star Wars universe. Revenge of the Sith. Is what destroys the entire world. Yeah. It's the clones killing the Jedi. So the evil empire can rise.
Starting point is 01:34:55 Alex you shouldn't praise it like that. You shouldn't do that. You know those movies that you love so much. Totally. About a horrible restrictive empire being defeated by a lovable group of rebels. We should really love the empire more. That's the real message of this.
Starting point is 01:35:15 We got the Star Wars mythology wrong. Palpatine was just trying to do a good job and defeat the universalists. Well Palpatine brought in prosperity and small business numbers. Absolutely. How many borders. How many contractors had to work on the Death Star.
Starting point is 01:35:31 So many. So many. Oh my God. They couldn't do that with a universal workforce and you don't want to federalize that. So you use the free market to keep costs down. And I'm guessing that he didn't even pay those contractors.
Starting point is 01:35:43 Probably not. No. So especially not on the second Death Star when they were still building it. Yeah. In this episode there's three instances and I apologize. I don't have audio of the third one but there's three
Starting point is 01:35:53 instances of Alex legitimately saying that Trump needs to militarily act on his enemies. Yep. And if that's where the rhetoric is at that tells me a couple things. First this interview is a damaging damaging piece because he's in panic mode. And second if the rhetoric evolves from here we're in
Starting point is 01:36:13 very serious trouble. Like I don't know where else it can go. Well if the military the where else does it go. If the military won't do it. Patriots have to. That's where it goes. I think he can probably say that legally for a bit but if he gets too descriptive with it or too like literal then he
Starting point is 01:36:32 really enters into. No that's a crime. Insighting violence. That's a crime. Yeah but I think you can still say if the government won't do it Patriots should. I think you can still say that legally. It's murky but I think you I think it's free speech.
Starting point is 01:36:46 Yeah that could be a man that sure seems like. I'm against it but I think it's still legal. Oh yeah I know. So that is I really think that Alex Jones abandoned every single one of his principles in the span of like three minutes. Yeah. But the show's not over.
Starting point is 01:37:03 And in the span of two years. The show's not over we got a couple clips left because what ends up happening a little bit later on the show is that Rob Dew and Owen Shroyer went out to the anti Sharia marches over the weekend. Oh fuck off. And the way they present it is that radical Muslims and communists have teamed up and that they were being attacked.
Starting point is 01:37:27 All of these anti Sharia people were being attacked by the coalition of Muslims and communists. Also. I can't fathom any crossover there. No but I think that probably some of the people who were protesting the alt-right publicity stunt there probably were some Muslims in there probably some anarchists probably some communists.
Starting point is 01:37:50 There's probably a very diverse group of people who are against the bigotry march. If you are if you think people are for Sharia law and communism you've lost your fucking mind. Well people protesting the anti Sharia march weren't pro Sharia law. They were just anti these larping assholes. No no I'm talking about the anti Sharia law people.
Starting point is 01:38:13 Oh yeah. They have to if they're pulling that narrative they think that somehow Sharia law is compatible with communism. Well no it's the communists or the idiots who are going to bring in the necessary circumstances where Sharia law can take over then the communists will be beheaded. That's I don't know that's probably. That's a bad plan by the communists.
Starting point is 01:38:34 We gotta we gotta get the word out to the communists not to trust the Sharia law people. Yeah the non-existent Sharia law people. I saw a ton of pictures from these marches and these demonstrations and they were fucking hilarious. Yeah. They were just a bunch of they're people in like armor and like like night armor not like not like for real night.
Starting point is 01:38:53 Not like Teflon. No we're talking Crusades armor. Yes there were some dudes in like straight up Holy Roman Empire garb there were just tons of people with guns. It was fucking insane. It seems like Civil War reenactors got bored with reenacting the Civil War. It's fan fiction.
Starting point is 01:39:12 So they went back to the Crusades. Or and well no a lot of them were like modern day dressed just with tons of guns. Stuff like that. But yeah I think it is probably that the Civil War reenactors are like we need a greedy reboot. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:27 This is the Batman Begins for Civil War reenactors. Definitely. So Rob Do and Owen Schreuer are in studio to discuss their experience and what have you. Also Owen Schreuer has been playing a clip during the commercial breaks. So whenever they go to commercial. Of them killing Jedi.
Starting point is 01:39:46 No. No no. Not yet. That's for tomorrow. Alex don't kill the younglings. Then you'll have gone too far. You'll be no better than John Podesta. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:56 And believe me you do not want Trump as your Emperor Palpatine. No. That is a bad plan. No no no. At least Emperor Palpatine was evil and smart. Like he negotiated his way from being one Sith Lord into running an empire.
Starting point is 01:40:12 It's pretty impressive. And killing all the Jedi. That's amazing. He didn't even inherit a lot of money from his dad. No. So. He worked his way up. He's a real story of raising yourself up by your
Starting point is 01:40:22 bootstrap. Maricana. Yeah. So whenever you're watching it on the website or on the live stream they don't play commercials that would be played on the radio. But the time still has to be cut out. So what they do is they play like 30 second reports from
Starting point is 01:40:36 their their reporters. And Owen Schreuer has been talking about how at these anti Sharia marches everybody are bigoted against the right. And Lauren Southern got hit with a water balloon full of piss. That's pretty great. But it's he's like Lauren Southern was out there and a
Starting point is 01:40:54 balloon full of urine hit him. It says him. Wait. So Lauren Southern him. Well I did some looking into this. OK. So it turns out that as a goof Lauren Southern like protesting the absurdity of transgender stuff changed
Starting point is 01:41:11 her gender. She became a man. And you know what. No one cared. She became a man legally. From what I understand. Yeah. And it turns out that it's you know people are very
Starting point is 01:41:25 supportive of that in Canada. And so it kind of backfired in her face because everyone's just like good for you. Yeah. No one made it. Everyone's very tolerant. How did you think that was going to cause a backlash in Canada.
Starting point is 01:41:39 So I don't know if that maybe in Kentucky. I don't know. I don't know if that's what Owen Schreuer is like like referring to or if it's just a misspeaking. But I looked into it. It's fucking insane. That's these people are so dumb. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:41:54 Yeah. She that's fucking hilarious. It's it's bad trolling. Yeah. So they get into studio and they're going to go over what they experienced out there. Right. But unfortunately right around when they're due the
Starting point is 01:42:08 ruling comes in that the Ninth Circuit Court has shot down the appeal of Trump's travel ban. Who would have guessed. And so Alex is not happy about that and he gets into it in this next clip. Trump loses travel ban ruling in appeals court. And get ready for this. A second federal appeals court on Monday ruled
Starting point is 01:42:26 against President Trump's revised travel ban. It's totally in law the president can do this. The decision from the United States Court of Appeals the Ninth Circuit in San Francisco that's overturned 80 plus percent of the time was the latest string of court rulings rejected by the administration's efforts to limit travel from several predominantly Muslim countries.
Starting point is 01:42:43 Yes. Failed states that don't even have working airports like Somalia. And how did they get here. Let me tell you a little bit about Somalia. We already went over the idea that he has that the imams are giving out passports. That's not true at all.
Starting point is 01:42:55 Some people are able to make fake passports and that we have an entire country of pirates. Official Somali passports have biometric indicators in them. And they're very difficult to actually fake. But also here's a fun fact for you. As of 2012 Somalia has 62 airports. Seven of them have paved runways. Oh that's good.
Starting point is 01:43:14 I mean they do have working airports. The Adin Adin International Airport in Mogadishu has international flights that run consistently. What Alex might be talking about is that there's a civil war in 1991 in Somalia and the airport. And they took down the airport. Yeah. The airport was kind of closed down during that.
Starting point is 01:43:32 Yeah. Their flight services experienced routine disruptions. Right. But that was in 1991. And in Somalia how many people are there. Like I don't know. Six airports is probably enough. 62.
Starting point is 01:43:44 62. Or yeah. I'm sorry. Seven with paved runways. Right. Seven with paved runways was my was my situation there. Like how many people are in Somalia. It can't be that many.
Starting point is 01:43:56 There are nine airports that have commercial service at them. And the other ones are all. The estimated population is 16.3 million people. Yeah. So in Chicago we have two airports for three million people. Yeah. They have nine airports. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:13 Nine airports that have commercial traffic for 16 million people. Yeah. That's perfect. Spread out through a country. Yeah. That's perfect. That's the number of airports. And there's a ton of people who don't need airports in Somalia.
Starting point is 01:44:25 But frankly the population there's a lot. Because they're all pirates. Well there's that. They have boats. Yeah. The other thing is they have a large there's a lot of rural area throughout the country. Right. So people just have no use for airports.
Starting point is 01:44:38 Of course. Other than bringing stuff in which is the other 51 airports that have dirt runways. Yeah. Which if you think that there aren't dirt runway airports in America you're fucking insane. Yeah. There are dirt runway airports in fucking St. Charles. Yeah. Out West.
Starting point is 01:44:56 Like it's a population of 45 people. I don't know. Who knows. Who cares. So that was that was dumb. And Alex is sort of he's I know that he thinks that it's going to go to the Supreme Court and everything's going to be okay. And we'll see.
Starting point is 01:45:10 I hope not. But it can't possibly. We're going to close this episode out with something that's just racist as hell. Stupid. But also kind of endearing in a small way. All right. All right. You you have confused me in so many different directions.
Starting point is 01:45:29 I don't want any explanation. Well I feel like I need to before just so it doesn't sound like I think racism is endearing. Okay. Alex and Owen Schreuer are being racist as fuck. Rob do is trying to do his job. And that's what's endearing. Rob do is kind of adorable. And he just has to put up with these two God damn idiots.
Starting point is 01:45:49 These jabronis over here who won't let him do his news report. He's on there to do a report. And he's trying. He's trying. He's giving it his college best. And he can't because Alex Jones has got to get racist and immature as fuck. Mike down for this one. This is incredible gentlemen.
Starting point is 01:46:07 Well and Alex all these countries too they found him in Libya they found him in Syria where they're making their own passports they're making fake passports to send these people because the airports are all bombed out hellhole. Exactly. So do you have you have these failed here? I am your Imam. You are good. G-O-O-D Habib.
Starting point is 01:46:23 Habib. Bye. Habib. Here you go. Kill. Kill them infidel. Yeah. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:46:31 It just makes you wonder what planet these people are on. You get passports here. You get infidel. You get passport. Here. Kill them. But blow up Manchester. But I'm 33.
Starting point is 01:46:40 I'm 33 year old man. No. You're 16 year old. Year old boy. Your name boy. Sign name here. Thank you. Your name boy.
Starting point is 01:46:50 Thank you. 16. We love you Obama. Sorry. Don't be ridiculous. Rob do. I mean I can't believe this has gone through two of these. You need passport?
Starting point is 01:47:04 All right. We come to your country to get your women's coffer infidel. You want one? Yeah. Let me see. You with beard. You seven year old boy. Year old boy.
Starting point is 01:47:17 Yeah. Seven and a half. Seven and a half. Seven year old. Here you sign. Here your passport. Signed by Imam. Can I get one?
Starting point is 01:47:25 Let me wipe ass in Islam. Here. There is your centem. Sign name boy. I want one. Seven year old boy. With me. With me.
Starting point is 01:47:33 My 20 friends here. All 30 year old men. All five year old boy. I'm coming to the U.S. I think the proper response to this Alex is. I guess Gallows humor. That's not Gallows humor. That's racism.
Starting point is 01:47:44 But also. That is. That's a minute and a half of just out and out racism. Yeah. That's insanity. But Rob do was trying. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:54 So there's a couple thoughts that I have about that first. Wow. First they have to pitch this narrative that adult men are being classified as children because otherwise the official statistics about refugees don't match up with their narrative. Of course. Because they say that all of them are military aged men. Right. Instead of women and children.
Starting point is 01:48:11 But that's not true at all. There's the plurality of them are women and children. Yeah. And so in order to get around that they're like no they're lying to you. There's there's adults with children being classified as children. Of course. That's the game that they're playing there. Right.
Starting point is 01:48:25 Now further. I do not see a large difference between what we just listened to. And let's say I don't know 70 years ago. Women being like you know what look not all black people are bad. But oh I miss a whole whole I want to do oh I want to get to women now you know like doing something like that. Yeah. That's a minstrel show.
Starting point is 01:48:47 There's really not much difference. That is as offensive as that and as stupid as childish as not rooted in reality. And I pray to God that it will be in white supremacy exactly but I also pray that that sort of thing that we can see right now in the present day we can see that being like that's fucking racist as shit we know what you're doing. I pray that 20 years from now five years from now you can look back on that sort of behavior the same way that we look back on the Sambo type. Thank God we don't do that anymore.
Starting point is 01:49:23 Right. That's what I want the future to say thank God those fucking idiots died. Thank God Alex Jones didn't do that yesterday. Yeah. No kidding. So I hope that interview goes well on Sunday Alex. It's not going to. No.
Starting point is 01:49:40 It's going to be a disaster. Oh yeah. Although not a disaster to the level that we would enjoy. Not a disaster in the way that we would have orchestrated it right. So anyway I'd like to thank everybody who's spreading the word about the show. We really appreciate it. Absolutely. People you know this each one teach one campaign is not going exactly right.
Starting point is 01:50:01 It's more like a few are telling a lot of people. Yeah. And that's great. Yeah. We're great. We're very grateful for that. Absolutely. If you want to point them to somewhere to to follow us at where would you go.
Starting point is 01:50:15 Knowledgefight.com my friend. That's where you would go. You can follow us on Twitter and knowledge underscore fight. At knowledge. Unterscore fight. Unterscore. Also I like this I'm seeing it happen a bit and I'd like to reinforce the behavior and encourage it.
Starting point is 01:50:31 I see people tweeting about Alex Jones just fucking get in there get in there replies at those assholes and tell them you get your perspective right. Yeah. Get in the knowledge fight. Don't play this reactionary don't play this reactionary ping pong game of outrage. Get in the actual knowledge fight where we can we can make headway against Alex. We can not necessarily take him down but we can play a game he can't respond to. We we I don't want to take him down in the same way that I don't want to I don't give
Starting point is 01:51:07 a fuck about the cult leader. I want the people out. They're the ones who are going to get hurt and that's always the case. These people who support Alex Jones are only getting hurt by the shit that they believe it. Totally. They're the ones who Trump is fucking over. These are the people who are actively being destroyed.
Starting point is 01:51:28 These are the people who are just like us struggling their asses off and instead of engaging with reality and in in doing their best to kind of fight against it. They're regressing into this fantasy world where they don't have to experience any of this responsibility and the difference between those people and you and I are possibly too bad choices that happened somewhere down the line or maybe something that wasn't even their choice or peer pressure peer pressure. Some sort of use. They were raised in one environment.
Starting point is 01:52:01 Like if you were raised in the same if you were raised in the same environment that's entirely possible. You would be an info warrior. Yeah. You you might be a victim of the the Alex Jones and they are victims. Absolutely. But they have a lot of selenium and iodine in them. That's great.
Starting point is 01:52:18 And they're gallbladder real clean. Oh man. They hate their wives because their wives have stopped enjoying getting fucked that hard. That's just Rob do. That's just Rob do. Oh OK. So also if you want to donate to the show we would appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:52:36 There's a button over on knowledge fight dot com to support the show become a policy wonk or if you'd like donate what was it ten dollars a month to time travel and we will do a time travel episode for you. Those are a little bit on hold slightly as I go through my twenty fifteen investigation but we will pop them in as we can. Yeah. But anyway thank you all so much. This has been been fun but hey you know what this this like Alex's sort of narrative that
Starting point is 01:53:03 this interview is a trap and that he's going to come out ahead that narrative dead. Yeah. Dead is a doornail. Yeah. But but what there's one guy who ain't dead. Is it is it. What's his name. I think it's Batman.
Starting point is 01:53:17 Rubber pork still lives. Andy and Kansas you're on the air thanks for holding. Well Alex I'm a first time caller I'm a huge fan I love your work. I love you.

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