Knowledge Fight - #56: July 22-Aug 11, 2015

Episode Date: June 23, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about the fifth installment in his in depth investigation into what happened in 2015 to get Alex to join up with the Trump team as a propagandist. Topics include: Are "they" putting human brains in mice? Does the first Republican primary debate convince Alex that Trump is his guy? Should 14 year olds be listening to InfoWars? Does any primary source Alex cites say what he thinks it says?

Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes who sit around and drink novelty beverages and talk quite a bit about Alex Jones. You forced me into it because you watch a lot of Alex Jones.

But you don't. I don't watch any of that shit. That's why I need to educate you. That seems like a stretch. I need to bring you into the real world. Don't we all live in a nicer world without Alex Jones? We definitely would. I think he would live in a nicer world without him, quite frankly.

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certified. Oh, that's good. They got that sugar on fair trade. I'm sure they're definitely not lying to us. A faceless shadowy corporation wouldn't do that. That is OK. Let's take a sip. It smells terrible. Yeah, I mean, it's just OK is what I'm getting at.

Yeah, it tastes like sugar and a whiff of fruit. So here is the deal beyond the soda. What is the deal? Last weekend, we recorded our fifth installment of the investigation into what happened in Alex Jones' life in 2015 that led him to support Trump. I would love to say that I listened to that. Unfortunately, I just keep thinking of a game show called Here is the Deal. Yeah, it's just people being disappointed by stuff.

And you're going to be disappointed to learn that we lost that episode. We did lose the episode. My computer crashed and it's gone. And it feels like it's in poor taste for us to try and remake the episode. I would be impossible because we could, but it would feel so stupid. I mean, my part of the episode would be fake. It would be as fake as an Alex Jones laugh. Well, and I'd be looking at you and trying to make the same points.

Yeah, just feel so shitty. Oh, it'd be bad. So I don't want to do that. It would be fun, though, if my part was just played by a recording of me saying, I fucking know it would be. That'd be a nice wrinkle. That'd be a fascinating episode. So the next time I'm gone, that'll be the Jordan fill in.

To compound, we just need a Squawk box. Yeah, exactly. Oh yeah. To compound matters. Oh my God. That's how worthless I am. You could just replace me with like a morning zoo crew. Just a very liberal minded Squawk box is a little angry.

A little? Little. Come on now. Um, so to compound matters, I have been going to doctors all this week and have been real busy. Cause I got a growth on my face. Yes. So I've been just super busy trying to take care of that and really preoccupied, which takes me a little bit out of the game on Alex, which is delightful.

I'm still, I'm still betting on a spider egg sack. That's what that's my bet. No, no, no, no. We pop it. It's, it's an urban legend. Don't like to hear this. By the way, no, I went in for an MRI, no spider eggs. It's totally fine.

Those machines are unreliable. Also, lest you get worried, everything is okay listeners. Don't worry. It's just a, just a hassle and a pain in the ass for me. Actually pain in the cheek. Also had to shave my beard. Yeah. I feel ridiculous.

You didn't shave all of it. You, you shaved it into a just fucking fantastic goatee. It's ridiculous. It is. I feel very stupid in public. It is old prospector level of, oh man. Yeah. It's the next level of don't talk to me.

We got to get some gold today boys. Yeah. Uh, you know, I'm just out there mining on the trains. And that's where you got that growth. Yeah. So today we'll be going over the period of July 22nd to August 10th, which was the original timeframe of our, our fifth part of our investigation. Right.

Our famous lost episode, but we're going to be focusing much more heavily on August 10th because we didn't really cover that all that well in the original version and we, and there's a lot more to discuss there and it will actually be fresh. Right. But in order to be fair to our listeners who, you know, we're doing this for them. Right. It only feels right that we actually hit some of the important points. Yeah.

From that timeframe. So the first like half hour, 40 minutes of this episode might sound false on our part, but I also don't believe that you remember everything. That's fair. Yeah. So it might. Although it also might turn into me being like, oh, I remember that. So we start on July 22nd.

And one of the most important things that we want to remind everybody is that Alex Jones is still very fooled by the Planned Parenthood videos that came out from the center for medical progress. Oh yeah. He, he's just hook, line and sinker. It feeds into his narrative. He loves it. Unfortunately they are deemed frauds.

Jail time. Jail time. Jail time is coming. Here's how true those videos are. Jail time. Everybody in Congress, it launched investigations. Every state legislature, they all found Planned Parenthood not guilty of any charges. But Alex Jones.

The best part is at least they still use it as an excuse to smear Planned Parenthood. Absolutely. And no one has gone backwards or retracted that at all. And now all the negative repercussions are still coming. Oh man, I can't wait. In fairness, it's not like this video was the first thing ever to smear Planned Parenthood. It just fed into it in a terrible way. They've been going for a long time.

Yeah. So here's Alex talking about that. And then transitioning into something weird and probably a lie. It's been decided by them and I guess people just want to be ruled in a sci-fi nightmare, take it over, dumb down and then euthanized by these people. While they openly got drink wine and go baby parts, Lamborghinis. It's made of people. My father was in the top six smartest people in Texas.

Tested by UT when he was a junior in high school and they called little David Jones in. And basically told him a bunch of this when he was 16 years old. He didn't even tell me about it until I was like 30 years old. That's how ubiquitous this is that even my dad almost joined this cult and never even told me about it. So Alex Jones' dad almost became a globalist. Also you were screaming over it but his dad is the sixth smartest person in Texas. Yeah.

Well. Or the world. I'm not sure. Yeah. Yeah. I would go with not the world. I feel like the sixth smartest person in the world becoming a dentist, especially one who is the birth fucking father of a monster.

The creator of this shit. Yeah. Yeah. So I think that's dubious but also it's just really funny how hard Alex went on these videos knowing what we know now. It's just fucking hilarious because whenever he tries to talk about how like my discernment is so right. I'm so on the ball about everything.

I can't lie even when I try. Well according to him eventually they will be proven to be true. New evidence will come to light. Where in well let's try and figure out some new evidence on those videos that might work. Okay. Wait oh we have to have new evidence of those actual videos. On those exact on those actual videos. That's going to be tough.

What was the part that they censored? Is it like the five minutes of the Nixon tapes where they accidentally turned them off? They didn't censor things. What are you talking about? I mean the government. Oh oh oh I see this is the spin. Exactly. Okay.

So there's lost parts of those tapes that would have exonerated the Planned Parenthood liars and finally taken down Planned Parenthood. But the globalists can't allow that to get out because they need to keep doing abortions on all the black people. So now here's what's fun about that theory. Yes. So so now this is like a chai-com nesting doll. Exactly.

Because you have the videos that the Center for Medical Progress put out which were heavily edited. Right. Then there was the actual versions that came out that exonerated Planned Parenthood. Right. Where it showed that the videos were completely full of shit and that the people weren't trying to haggle for money for baby parts. Of course not. But you're implying that there's a third version.

There's a third version. Yes. Now even though all those committees exonerated Planned Parenthood. Right. They couldn't get that out there the real truth. Do you know why? Controlled opposition. Undoubtedly.

This makes perfect sense. Center for Medical Progress is in on it. It is declassified when Alex Jones. It's in the white papers. It's in the white papers when Alex Jones is 45 which he has been for six months now. Or perhaps six years. No one knows how old he may or may not be. Yeah.

He will be proven correct. I I I like your your confidence. I like the theorizing. Also part of this is that John Glenn isn't dead. That's a that's a new wrinkle to this conspiracy theory. What about John Glenn? What about Buzz Aldrin? Oh Buzz Aldrin is fucking dead.

Yeah he's dead. So in this number two to walk on the moon dies first. That's just a true. You gotta go down. That's just a truth. So in the next clip we've got here the purpose of our investigation is of course to figure out when Alex's mentality changed about Trump. So it's important to every time it comes up we've got to discuss where his head was.

Right. About Trump. On our last episode we left off with the mentality that I don't trust this guy but I'm going to stop talking shit. Right. I'm going to stop talking about how he's mobbed up and all that. I'm going to let this man say the bigoted things I want to say. Yes I love seeing my bigotry on a national scale.

Right. But I don't trust him. He's probably lying about how much hate he has. He wants a big like movie opening. That's really what he wants. Yeah. He wants he wants his ideas put out like like if in the movie Armageddon instead of it being the the asteroid it is the government and black people who made the asteroid.

Sure. That's the that's what he wants. It's a globalist asteroid. Exactly. And you know you got to go mine it or something. I'm not sure. So bring the coal jobs back. On that asteroid.

On the asteroid. Maybe that's Trump's plan all along baby. So in this next clip Alex lays out where his head is at about Trump on July 22nd 2015. Why would Trump come out and say oh if you get shot down you know and get captured you're not a hero. I don't want you to get captured. No people that fly into dangerous areas and get shot down and to areas they know where you're tortured.

That's pretty heroic. Trump's really savvy really smart. He said that because he was getting too high in the polls. He was the leader and he is being directed by top republican strategist PR people. That's come out and Trump. Trump is is is is is really making me angry and I told you got a bad feeling about him. He's super smart. He knows exactly what he's doing.

And so just watch. He gets back in the lead again. He'll do more of the same on purpose. He knows all about McCain. McCain is well known for all of his criminal activity. And Trump passed me watch very very closely. So he's talking about the comments that Trump made about McCain. Alex Jones believes that he made those clips because he knows he has to try.

Can't be too far ahead in the polls. Yeah because then you might fucking win that thing. Right. And that's not the plan. That's not the plan at all. He's the Pied Piper trying to ruin the Republicans chances. Or Jed Bush can get in there. Yeah.

So that's that's where he's at. That's his baseline. And that's you know I think a lot of people were saying that then. I think that was pretty much. I think Trump was probably saying that back then. Yeah. Just like fuck I need money. This is a great way to get people to buy my shit.

So I'm just going to get as much as much attention as possible. Then whatever I everybody realizes I'm a fucking idiot who is not savvy. Who is not smart. Who is just an old bigot who watches too much Fox News. They'll be like we can't have you be president. Yeah. And I get to go away. That's great.

Everyone wins. Exactly. Literally everyone would have won. Yeah. I like how Alex too is like I don't know. I don't think you can call these people who fly planes. Maybe get captured cowards. So you know like I like that he's on that tip.

He's he's almost there. He's he's right in the big picture. He's wrong in the small picture. Where in McCain is a monstrous criminal. And he was lying about being tortured and he was getting pleasure women at the Hanoi Hilton. Man that would be a big lie to tell. That's pretty big. Another big lie about that's a hundred percent swing in the wrong direction.

Yeah. Another big lie about McCain brings us to our next clip where in a caller is trying to explain that Alex or not Alex is trying to explain that John McCain is trying to make it illegal to sell vitamins without getting prescriptions for people. Right. And I kept you know like a good person would do. I kept this in because the end of this call is fucking hilarious. And in order to buy a simple bottle of vitamins he wants you to be required to get a doctor's

prescription to buy a simple bottle of vitamins. Yet you and I being adults can walk into any store in the country and buy a gun or tobacco which can kill us without a doctor's like a gun credible. But McCain doesn't want you to be able to buy any vitamins without a doctor's prescription. Hey can I say this John? John is a Manchurian candidate. He is a Manchurian candidate. Can we can we hire you as a correspondent?

Why not? You have a great voice and you're even smarter and I just am so honored. I'm not kissing your butt. It's true. You guys sit on hold forever. I'm up here babbling about space platforms and demons and you're just so smart nailed everything on McCain. You're the type of guy that are you internet savvy where you could like file audio reports

to a portal or something? Alex I'm old school. I'm 69 years old so I was one of those guys who grew up without the internet. But I have unlimited local and long distance. So I could make characters out there that are so smart and I would love to have it where maybe you could find some money in Wyoming in the town you're in who could work with you as a team and have you go out and do reports and stuff. So he's got a I mean he has a house phone.

That's hilarious. Yeah I just love that. I love the idea of of Alex actually sending out people to be like hey we want you to go talk at this random thing and he's like dude I'm a fucking retired old man with a landline. Rob do you're moving to Wyoming. You got to help this smart. That's right he's in Wyoming. Fun fact guy calls back on August 10th.

I didn't pull the clip of but he calls back and has a hateful screed about the council on foreign relations. Oh did he get hired then. Did he at least get a check. Alex does not even seem to realize it's the same guy. But it's very obvious. Of course. Old man Wyoming call it in.

So I'm going to keep track of every time he calls it because he's now my new favorite character on the show because that those are. Random old dude from Wyoming. Well those are classic pipes. There's no denying that. You know we want to mock all we you know. Oh yeah no he's got a great voice. It's hilarious that he's a 60 year old conspiracy theorist in the middle of

Wyoming with a house phone and he is old school so he doesn't know about the internet. That's right. Well they don't actually have cell phones out there yet. I've been reading about the globalist in magazines. I don't have the internet so I can't read blogs that are full of shit. I still open the yellow papers. So Alex would probably want you to not get your information from blogs and what have you. He wants you to look into the globalists on a deep level.

Right. And in this next clip he has some things to say about vaccines and then he misrepresents his own knowledge base. Just remember when you take your 18 month old in and get that third round of shots and they have a convulsion in the car and then they never talk again that I warned you and it wasn't funny. It's not funny for Jenny McCarthy. She said I don't know what's going on but there was one in 25,000 30 years ago with autism

and now it's one in 58 and it's set to be one in 10 by 2025 and then one in five and then one in three until suddenly nobody can talk and everyone's drooling and the average person is throwing feces up against the wall and then no one's asking what's going on. Why is this happening? Well because they can't they're too busy throwing feces at the wall. Poisoning the food and water by design. Read John P. Holdren the Lighthouse Science R's own book written 40 years ago. 41 years ago now in 1974 with Paul Ehrlich.

So where would you buy shit? What do you mean? I mean if everybody was throwing me like that what's the end game to that plan? I don't know. Okay so the average person, right? I'm listening. Okay so they're all so damaged and destroyed by vaccines which yes they are throwing feces at

the wall but that is not diarrhea caused by polio. It's a mixed bag. Yeah exactly. You win some you lose some. It's frozen cunts. Yeah yeah yeah. They are absolutely protected from the flu but can't talk. No.

Right so you can't talk. The most of the population can't talk throwing feces at the wall. Yeah. Like we're like so if you're a globalist who rings you up at the grocery store. You don't need to talk to do that. But you're busy throwing feces at the wall. We all know the robots are coming. Oh that's a good point.

Alex talks about the rise of the machines. He's seen Terminator. 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,000 He knows what's going on. All right so average people throw shit at the wall. Right. Globalists work with robots. I suppose so.

And then and then you'd need and then everything's fine. Well I mean the the idea there I guess would have to be a profound welfare state. Yeah that's what the globalists really want. They just want to take care of people throwing shit at the wall. Yeah they want people who are incapable of feeding themselves. They have a mother complex. That's what it is. Oh that could be.

You might have you might have cracked the code. Yeah. A couple things that are important to point out about that is we need to do bunk something really quick. And that is the statistics about people who are diagnosed with autism are very misleading because you know 30 40 years ago people who would have been diagnosed nowadays as autistic would have been called a tard. Yeah or whatever locked in a room.

Yeah or just this boy's weird. Yeah those sorts of things. There was a very unevolved approach towards a lot of mental illness even in the 60s or 70s. Yeah a lot of psychiatry psychiatric medicine back in the 1800s was just a guy going around fucking up your brain with a knife. Yeah like they they they thought lobotomies would solve problems. Totally. That was a thing that lasted a lot longer than we think.

Yeah exactly. Pretty recent. Yeah and so the idea that like there's been this exponential rise in people who have autism is probably not true. The numbers might be going up slightly but the numbers being like massively higher if they even are I don't know if I've seen reliable statistics on it but even if that is the case it is just an evolution in diagnosis not in the actual disease. It's like saying you know a lot more people are diagnosed with with tuberculosis now as

opposed to back then when it was just ghosts. Right. The rise in diagnoses of tuberculosis instead of ghosts is so big. Yeah. So then also exponential. The the fun thing and the reason why I desperately needed to keep this clip in is because I like to document every time Alex Jones references one of his primary sources about globalists. Yes.

Because it's important that we knock out all of those those supports. Yeah. Because they're stupid. This one's earlick right. This one is John P. Holdren. I'm so far off. Well Paul Ehrlich also. Oh OK.

And then Paul Ehrlich's wife Annie Ehrlich who Alex refuses to give credit. She was the one who put also Sprach Zarathustra in front of. Yeah. Yeah. Which which our listeners have very very astutely pointed out is Rick Flair's entrance music. So what Rick Denger's wife did was throw Rick Flair's entrance at the beginning. The Hulk Hogan's entrance. Yeah.

Anyway problem. So problem solved. The three of them John P. Holdren Paul Ehrlich and Annie Ehrlich wrote a textbook called Ecoscience Population Resources Environment and it's where Alex Jones takes his ideas that the globalists are trying to put something in the water to decrease population. It's a thousand page textbook about about resource management and what have you in populations and the implications of things. And everyone just misquotes shit.

Everybody takes things out of context. They and Alex is super guilty of that. Right. Here is the here is the section that Alex takes his beliefs about globalists wanting to put things in your food in order to make you infertile. I suppose. Here it is quote the third approach to population limitation is that of involuntary fertility control.

Several coercive proposals deserve discussion mainly because some countries may ultimately have to resort to them unless current trends and birth rates are rapidly reversed by other means. Adding a sterilant to drinking water or staple foods is a suggestion that seems to horrify people more than most proposals for involuntary fertility control. Indeed this would pose some very difficult political legal and social questions not to say anything of the technical problems. No such sterilant exists today nor does one appear to be under development. To be acceptable such a substance would have to meet some rather stiff requirements.

It must be uniformly effective despite widely varying doses received by individuals and despite varying degrees of fertility and sensitivity among individuals. It must be free of dangerous or unpleasant side effects and must have no effect on members of the opposite sex children old people pets or livestock. Right. So it needs to be made of magic. Yeah totally. And I don't believe that there would be something like a uniform substance that would

work on men and women. Not possible. So you would just have things that would make you like women infertile and then men would have all the jizz or vice versa. And why would it go yeah why would it go with women being infertile. It seems way easier to make every man infertile. Yeah yeah maybe. That's one forced sterilization would be to just like if you are convicted of a violent crime

you just get your balls cut. We're taking your balls. Yeah we're just taking balls left and right. But I think they did. That would be the most racist thing that would ever happen. Like that would go totally crazy. And I think suggestions like that have been made and shot down for similar reasons. For good reasons.

So this goes on. Again there's no sign of such an agent on the horizon. And the risk of serious unforeseen side effects would in our opinion mitigate against the use of any such agent even though this plan has the advantage of avoiding the need for socioeconomic pressures that might tend to discriminate against particular groups or penalized children. Which is exactly what you were just talking about. Right. How in the past they have forced sterilization on criminals.

And as we all know that's not a good way to do things. No it turns out really bad. Turns out there's biases in policing. Oh shit. Who gets arrested for things. Who would I guess. Yeah. So I've never seen examples of it.

Again in this textbook they are making it incredibly clear that this is not a good proposal. Right. There are logistical problems. There are moral problems. And it's just it's not it's not going to work. So they conclude. Also why would the globalists worry about putting something in the water. When with climate change they're just getting rid of the whole kitten caboodle.

Sure. It's easy to force sterilization on people when they can't drink anything. And then they die. Yeah. And you can just have your armored red out on the top of a hill or something. Exactly. I don't know. Yeah.

Yeah. So the authors conclude quote. Where you keep all your robots. Yeah. And your autistic people pets. Your poop thrown pets. Exactly. So they they conclude quote.

Most of the population control measures beyond family planning discussed above have never been tried. Some are as yet technically impossible and others are and probably will remain unacceptable to most societies. Although of course the potential effectiveness of those least acceptable measures may be great. So they're conceding that it would possibly be an incredibly effective way. But it's impossible. And societies would never be cool with it. So it's not a it's not a reasonable suggestion. No that would be some serious globalist shit if you pulled that off.

They're discussing it because it's a textbook that covers all of it for educational purposes. There's other techniques that are that are shown such as family planning. Right. Such as the I mean even in this next paragraph they get into it. Compulsory control of family size is an unpalatable idea. But the alternatives may be much more horrifying. As those alternatives become clearer to an increasing number of people in the 80s. They may begin demanding such control.

A far better choice in our view is to expand the use of milder methods of influencing family size preferences. While redoubling efforts to ensure that the means of birth control including abortion and sterilization are accessible to every human being on earth within the shortest possible time. If effective action is taking properly against population growth perhaps the need for more extreme involuntary or repressive measures can be averted in most countries. I think I think the issue comes down to the fact that they're writing it. They're writing that section like a textbook. Yeah.

So it's like we're presenting this idea and then we're shooting it down. To educate you so you know why you shouldn't do that idea. Yeah. But they don't do that. They say it very dryly like here is what we could do. This is why we shouldn't do it. Well they're relying. If they actually just put in there like don't do this.

Here is what's going on. It's fucking stupid. Well then everybody would get it. They're relying on an assumption that your listeners aren't idiots or your readers aren't idiots because it's a high level textbook. Right. And they assume that people are going to understand when you have an educational text it should cover all angles.

So you learn about the subject. So now who's the idiot. Alex Jones. No they are. Well possibly Holdren. So they'll go on to talk about how it would be possible to have compulsory abortions under the current constitution were population growth to get out of control. Right.

So as to like be an actual crisis. Right. The laws are written in such a way that it would be legal. But. But again would wind up being the most racist thing that could ever fucking happen. Right. All that would be used like a pogrom to get rid of totally. Yeah.

If you have desirable if you had the GOP in Congress whenever that was allowed. Fuck we would lose generations of not white people. Yeah. So but the important thing to make clear is that that statement of this would theoretically be possible under our law forcing people to get abortions is not advocating it. And also that is like again if they had like a little like hey we should make a law against this that would again be perfect. Yeah.

Like they just don't come out and advocate for how stupid it is. Yeah. They just present it in an educational way and they say you draw your conclusions which is a dumb idea. Yeah. So they also you know once people started spinning these conspiracy yarns based on this book John P. Holdren put out a statement that the quoted materials from a section of the book that described different possible approaches to limiting population growth and then concluded

that the author's own preference was to employ the non-coercive measures before the environmental and social aspects of overpopulation led desperate societies to employ coercive ones. Dr. Holdren has never been an advocate of compulsory abortions or other repressive means of population limitation. Further Annie and Paul Ehrlich came out and said we have been shocked at the serious mischaracterization of our views and those of John Holdren in blog posts based on a misreading of our jointly authored thousand page 1977 book textbook Ecoscience. We are not then never have been and are not now advocates of the draconian measures for

population limitation described but not recommended in the book 60 plus small type pages cataloging the full spectrum of population policies that at the time had either been tried in some country or analyzed a shorter goddamn statement but they're making it clear right no you could make it clear way easier by talking like a normal person fair enough like being like hey a fucking course we don't think this is a good idea come on dumb dumb what do you yeah exactly that's a great statement come on asshole what do you what else would you want from a great scientist than a final like big suck on my balls you fucking idiots kind of thing that would be great that would be amazing yeah this is the problem with us we're not scientists that's true

this is our biggest issue we could be scientists type man yeah that would be fucked that should be a job this is the new system that should be a job this is a mad tv sketch in the making no no lobbyists no nothing just the scientists put out the science and then we come out and we're like look at this fucking shit you idiots hey assholes we're fucking dying yeah that's that's what a lot of twitter is yeah that's a good point that's a good point it hasn't worked out well so far unfortunately there are a lot of hype men on the other side so far more effective ones you know why they speak the common man's language sure so alex is writing in their own shit alex's argument about uh is a big new brzezinski i have a series problems with based on uh reading some of his

books and them not saying what alex says they say and now further his argument that people are trying to put things in the water and into the food to sterilize you it's on completely shaky grounds that's not what this textbook was talking about at all of course and if that's his only source on that he's straight fucked that is that is no good so anytime he brings up that stuff just know that a lot of it went pressed to give a citation this is what he gives and it doesn't say what he thinks he says so great i love it you're anyway you're so angry at the misappropriation of you know wonderful you know i'm more angry at what are you more angry that we lost that fucking episode i know you're very bad so weird it doesn't feel weird to me i'm enjoying myself

all right well you'll enjoy this is the this is the best part of listening to know alex jones i am continually surprised uh so you'll love this we're gonna get back uh this is july 23rd uh this that last clip was and so we're the next two uh about an hour of the show is taken up by dr group coming on the show not a doctor he's a chiropractor dr grouper uh he identifies as a fish yep i cut out that whole thing you son of a bitch that was my favorite part alex jones came out as trans species uh because he's a dog uh he wants to identify as a dog who was it was it paul joseph watson or gavin mcginnis who are no pjw yeah pjw tried to mcginnis isn't in play yet and he tried to make an argument like uh i'm a dog now and that's that's showing you how trans arguments are stupid

yeah and no he's a he's a duck oh he's a duck oh then i retract my argument alex is a dog because he he put some socks on his ears oh that's right and he made a video at home i remember he was abusing his children because he forced them to watch him and videotape him making a transphobic argument like now that we're talking about it i wish i had pulled the clip see this is what happens you can find it on knowledge fight dot com i'll post it up there uh yeah he had his uh elementary school age daughters videotape him making a transphobic video where he claimed he was identifying as a dog and then i had one of them dress up in a gorilla suit in studio that's right to further spell out the joke which is not a joke it's just bigotry he made he he made his child out to be

a monkey that's what just happened there and anyway that's heavy this is light doctor group did an hour on his new supplement uh deep cleanse a lot of cleans is going on in the group family of products the group and uh so i don't okay i don't give a fuck about listening to him try and sell his product but two very important things came out about dr group's life and alex jones's life that the audience deserves to know about the first one is about dr group they're historically tougher right they're historically they usually live longer than men i mean historically women live like gunshot wounds anything women daughters will tell you are more resilient unless it's just an upfront brutal attack right my mom actually was shot six times point blank range

in the head with a 22 rifle and she survived good lord i know that story well you were talking about resiliency so wow yes she uh she survived that that's bad radio tell me more about that nope good lord i didn't know about that moving on no interest in you talking to the point where that sounds like a fascinating and interesting story to be crazy am i telling it then fuck off well there's that but then also if alex was to unpack that story the most likely thing is his dad shot his mom in the head six times oh shit if you use statistical analysis making up his he's making up for his evil father's crimes yeah his dr group's backstory is that his dad created a bunch of toxic things that are invading the uh the atmosphere right so he has dedicated his

life to creating cleanses that undo the evils of his father his dad is sean connery from the avengers yes absolutely but instead of weather stuff it's a chemical manipulation of humans or something right right but that's why group makes these cleanses to get bullets out of people it could be but whether it was the dad that shot the mom if alex unpacks the story it's gun violence yeah and he doesn't want to talk about that oh that's true he's so second amendment he doesn't want to say hear any story even if it's the most fascinating fucking story ever there would be great radio it's not man no that goes against my gun narrative oh so you know that could be what he's doing but it also could be that alex jones his brain damaged and this next clip

is slight evidence that alex jones might he might not be well in the head i think we already know that i know but we're just building evidence up you want to move on to absolutely that was a really informative caller but but notice he got a big dose so it hitting he knew it did it but the little dose you just slowly ease into the fog and that was i just need to clarify you know what when we did this the first time i forgot to do this second time forgot to clarify again they had just taken a call from a guy who was like a bug control person a pest killer and he had spilled some chemicals on himself and so dr group was telling him to take oh i got cleanses for you so then alex tells this story i was gonna tell i didn't know he's about to do that one time uh because i have a cousin who

was he finally got out of the army after 35 years uh he's an older cousin and yeah there were a few times where but well i was working with him but also his brother my other cousin and they would just go out for extra money and do termite stuff and so my grandma would just say when i was down there for a few weeks during the summer i was like tim and this happened hey go work with them you know because they'd send me to all of her types of jobs just to get experience and i remember going under houses with them spraying doing three or four houses going to get lunch and just being high even though i was wearing a mask high at the dairy queen eating a hamburger after i'd gone and just done a few houses and it was just so clear you know he's like he's eating a dairy queen hamburger

and that's just what he was just saying he spilled it on himself and then was just in a days and that's what the general public's like we're stunned in a days dr group yes that's exactly what's happening and that's why we're here giving out solutions even you know that even group has that pause of like what sure if he were a real doctor he would be like oh my god that's terrifying children's brains are very flexible and you can really do serious damage by being stuck under a house with dangerous chemicals i'm surprised that alex jones isn't isn't in a room somewhere throwing his own shit at the wall quite frankly he might be projecting yeah that's true that he might just be competent for like four hours a day it's just a coiled spring and once he gets off

air it's just a god i throw my shit they just wheel him back into his home yeah it could be so we've cut out a bunch of other stuff that we discussed on the first episode that we lost but it doesn't really need to be discussed i'll break some of it down alex jones has a bunch of racist shit he white washes the history of oklahoma city don't just sum up the our podcast this fast he white washes oklahoma city and timothy mcvay's history and he cites as one of his sources for the truth about oklahoma city won larry nickles so that's uh that's dubious steve larry nick shows up yeah that's dubious but he doesn't actually interview me just says larry nickles revealed at all like okay well that is not true then okay you have invalidated your argument

alex jones revealed that what he lusts for most in life is uh oh that's right yeah enchilada covered in onions and a dose ecce on a wonderful vacation watching his kids swim that's lust it's nothing yeah i'm a simple man he's a simple man uh all he wants is that bahama vacation that we all strive for so using his millions and millions of dollars alex finishes up his shift on friday july 24th and then goes on vacation he spends two weeks in europe and david night hosts for two weeks oh and i tried to find the ratings must have been way down i tried to find the clips where alex reported in i was only able to find a few of them and they were just him playing vacation videos on info wars it was hilarious him just being like he's just out at some grecian agora and he's like

you know we're uh we're out here trying to find what's going on with the greek economy give me some soufflaki we're investigating where these uh these columns came from i'm drunk you guys see this shit i'm drunk on uzo these columns yeah they're up there these globalist columns they've been there for a while so it's it's nonsense he claims that he's going to europe all over europe to get to the bottom of it he's gonna go find out what's up at the vatican he's gonna go he's gonna go find out why all the countries in europe are failing right he's gonna just dig into it he's just and like i said he's reporting with his shirt off right he's not doing anything how is this okay yeah so i i just there's just no there's just no equivalent to

his show elsewhere like no the only thing that comes close i think is jackass maybe like that's that's as close as it comes yeah i guess so and it's just wild uh unfilteredness yeah it's sort of hillbilly appeal yeah exactly just like fuck it they're doing it yeah who fucking gives a shit is it true don't care but jackass isn't lying they do hurt each other yeah well alex hurts us yeah exactly and by us i mean all of us yeah the greater us so he's on vacation he comes back to the studio on august 10th on august 6th 2015 what the first republican presidential primary debate happened right and my theory was that this would be when he turns yes and as you already know because we already went over it he does not he does not no dude you could at least

pretend that we haven't done all this already you're just revealing it left and right just like and as you and i both know in validating the entire concept of this show i feel like there's maybe a little more to the concept i think maybe people like us i have never experienced that in my life well you look you're right but i just can't pierce the facade of the fact that i mean i know people are listening but at the same time we're sitting in a room talking to each other so if i were to be like hey jordan you don't know what's gonna happen you would know i'm lying to you and i feel fucking uncomfortable but this is how acting works dan i'm not an actor you could be i don't know this is your chance this is your chance all right who knows what's gonna

happen oh man you're a bad actor so let's get into it the rise of your eyebrow betrayed you immediately i was trying to do a rock you are no daniel dan louis but i am i daniel wane johnson the rock i got okay i got there's the eyebrow come on i no no no it's happening it's a you're a better actor you're a better actor than i thought so this you're more of an impressionist let's get to this next clip we're into august 10th now like i said alex is back from vacation the first debate has happened here is what he thinks about trump we are back thank you so much for joining us i will get into donald trump all things donald this is planet donald and i don't normally go with whatever the big

distraction du jour is i didn't cover the malaysian airline situation now of course he did but also i just realized he probably is using du jour because he was just in europe i did not consider that i am considering it have we have we ever heard him use that before uh no and he really he really leaned into it too like i kind of did i just learned it in distraction du jour i have had some soups in the last month they were du jour i have had some soups uh so yeah also he did cover the malaysian plane so you think they found it and covering it i had a few guests on i mentioned it when new developments came out but compared to other media mainstream media alternative media we covered it probably one one hundredth of what they did because that

was a pure distraction fear what does it matter at the end of the day it's a sad tragedy but compared to what's happening in the rest of the world it is a diversion that's why the media was running with it at nauseam but with something like donald trump it's different because it's about the 2016 election the future of this country and the rest of the world and whether he's a shill whether he is for real uh regardless of who donald trump really is the study example of how the media is handling this how they're spinning it how people are responding tells you a lot and and i'll say this if donald trump flip flops or if he obviously falls on his sword or drops the ball on purpose or lowers his fist during the 12th round he will be anathema and hated in this country

and there will be no if his chickens come home to roost resuscitation if his eggs are in a basket the body politic that said though if he's a shill monday's he may not have a choice and is being blackmailed because i'll tell you when you own casinos and you're involved financing both political parties and you're tied in with the folks that the donald's tied into uh they can indict a ham sandwich in this country i don't believe that's true but i know you're using a metaphor alex i'm gonna let you he's got he's got plenty of nancy polosi said that alex would be like she thinks that fucking ham sandwiches can be tried in court yeah they would put that on a clip he would they would put that in an intro they'd run

it all the time look at this dumb old broad telling us that ham sandwiches can commit crimes the only crime a ham sandwich can commit is being delicious ma'am you are so delusional that you think food is uh under the rule of law and uh look that's how wacky democrats are listen bill de Blasio how about you uh restrict sodas some more do our ham sandwiches need to have less salt in them yeah uh so i mean look at that he answer is probably yes probably heart disease is a very serious problem so he's uh i mean he's saying he's suggesting that uh trump could be getting blackmailed into being the shill that he knows him to be what if they what if he was just like they he's wrong about everything yeah but what if he fucking nailed it this one time

well but he's right about a few things you know like civil asset forfeiture and marijuana those two classic examples we have of agreeing the only two examples there's a couple other things we've sort of agreed with him in principle but disagreed with how he got to his conclusion but i mean he's not always wrong he's just almost always wrong right but this is this seems to this is big like all the narratives that we see now coming out about russia this seems like dead on yeah and i'm gonna play you a clip a little bit later that you haven't heard that makes it all the more fucking scary because i think there is an indication where he tips his hat a little bit about knowing what the future holds because he alex knows what the future holds as we've discussed he speaks to ghosts

that's true he does speak to ghosts and he may or may not be psychic so i think he he has a premonition of what's to come and uh it's a little scary but uh just like linel he would nailed it yeah but accidentally so we go on just like linel yeah we go on he has more things that he wants to say about trump so we will be going over donald trump the good the bad the ugly what is he planning with the election john bound's report we're going over joseph wales we're gonna have a lot of great piecewood film is donald trump a wolf in sheep's clothing shows the washington post and others admitting a year ago that donald trump was in conversations and consultations with his quote good friends the clintons about should he run as a republican something bill

clinton encouraged him to do zero hedge has asked the same question is trump the democrat wolf in g.o.p clothing well i know the clinton's loving but see they know that we're so desperate to hear somebody tell the truth about political correctness race anchor babies or open borders races or nafta or gat race or scores of other issues that we want straight talk we're starving for it we're like a man or woman in the sahara dying of thirst but we want to tell the truth and we want to support it we want to defend it i do as well the only way to defeat a moral strong popular opposition to oppression to despotism to social engineering to tyranny is to lead the opposition pipe pipe or shit but one thing's for sure we're

going to find out about donald trump and as i said earlier if donald trump betrays the american people he has and drops out of the race when he's in the lead not like ross poro did or something else this country is a lot different than it was in 1992 1993 holy shit he's going to face serious repercussions the only question is are those repercussions going to be greater than the possible blackmail that he's under that if he doesn't play ball they're going to indict him and believe me donald trump is certainly in a position where they can dig something up on him because as i've said i'm not even saying he's corrupt the way the laws are written in this country they can indict anybody they want whenever they want i am saying he's peed on a russian

hooker or ham sandwiches yeah peed on ham sandwich yeah so i just i just it came to a realization so do i almost simultaneously okay i bet they're different okay maybe so going by the proposition that he is correct this one time he's nailing it he's the the good twin sticking out of his ear all of a sudden starts speaking hard truths right think of this all ready we run as republicans you and i yeah okay and we just say racist shit and get the republicans to elect us okay and then we fucking turn on them we got two years where we can do all kinds of shit it's true we'll redistrict their move oh well we can't win here no we can't win in illinois that's true no we're gonna okay we go to the south oh okay we do some care and handle shit sure and we just start hating

on everybody who he's correct in all things right we could definitely make a senate run but i don't think that there's a vice senator a vice senator yeah are you saying i'm gonna be your vice senator no i was going the other way i want to be your hype man i want to be the man behind the curtain oh yeah that's probably better you're the face of the operation i would i would i would i've got a growth on my channel i would crush being racist for fun uh so here's my revelation i think alex jones is nailing it but he's looking at the wrong angle because he is assuming that the black male is coming from hillary clinton and what he's not considering is that there might be other sources of the like influence and force that's being put on that's true so i'm not suggesting necessarily

the trump uh has been blackmailed by russians or the mob but i am saying that alex i think his assessment is pretty right on except he's not putting the pieces together he knows that he's mob connected he knows that he works in casinos and is a predator he knows that he's laundering shit tons of russian money but he doesn't think that that is where the influence is coming from he thinks that clinton's know about that and can blackmail him because of that as opposed to these mobsters being like if we have our guy in the white house we can run a rough shot yeah makes so much money as they have proven unequivocally yeah so i think they are going batshit nuts so i think alex is right but he's blinded by his hatred of hillary clinton and his just dumbness

about uh the globalist idea and the idea that democrats want to force socialism to turn into communism to turn into totalitarianism right uh so he's whenever they could have just gone backwards and skipped the socialism and the communism and just gone straight from democracy to autocracy yeah it turned out it's super easy we've proven that it's possible we thought it would be hard yeah no it took like a month yeah he nailed it yeah give or take so that's that's kind of where on that i think alex is missing the forest for the trees uh in many ways because he's so focused on the clinton's so focused on fake globalists uh and he doesn't see what's right in front of him right and that is that he could have been right he could have been a hero god

damn it he could have he could have nailed it he could have been a hero there is an alternate universe the best universe it's not that where alex jones reveals the biggest story of all time what he knows about trump the biggest he could there would be nothing bigger than discovering but your dumb ass info wars conspiracy theorist website that one conspiracy theory you have was perfect and wasn't a conspiracy yeah exactly it was straight it was just straight knowledge going the whole way god damn it alex jones could have gone down in history as the woodward and Bernstein of racism it could have but i i would make the caveat that that's not that great of a universe because then we have a really arrogant alex jones yeah oh man and then

we got to deal with like okay i mean he's never going to shut up about sandy hook now no that's true he just took down a potential despot now everything is fair game yeah now everyone thinks sandy hook was fake right god yeah hey got one so he has more things to say about trump in this next clip so i'll be getting into that as well but i want to take your calls on the trump situation starting in the next segment i've got some clips from the debates also have senator paul saying he's a fake conservative that's true which if you judge donald trump by most of his past activities that's true he's been pro abortion he's been pro immigration but he says of workers which i agree with of their skilled workers we need them uh and he's been a huge democrat supporter more than a

republican supporter that said he has been a critic of vaccines for more than a decade and linked it to autism and said he doesn't take vaccines something i like about trump so he's like how is this the how is that the win it's so weird that he's like all of these things like he's he's pro he's for abortion good he's for immigration good but he's crazy about vaccines elect him he the bad thing is the thing that he loves yeah that's that's very bizarre again we should run as republicans yeah it would be we can get away with fucking anything now i think this recording might hurt us in our race but it would be very never find it it would be very very easy just to take all of the dumb positions you know resonate with republicans and just run with

them yeah right why aren't we doing this i don't know this seems insane to me i think we would get killed if we did that if we ran on uh like all of these fringe positions that are just super crazy and bigoted right and then we get in office and we're like guys we're super progressive right we are just died in the whole liberals that would be fucking suck up my balls that would be the best though we would get god the reveal would just be so good some some militia type would take us out yeah well i mean the moment we do good of course that's how that works yeah so alex i mean he supports trump because of vaccines and he gets into it a little more he's just sort of like you know what i mean he just he's i love rand paul but he says crazy things trump says crazy things and i just i

like that he's making it okay to talk about these crazy things right even though i know that he loves the clintons even though i know his history says that he's you know exactly what i would hate even though my favorite politician rand paul says he's an asshole all of these things i gotta give him a shot because he's saying crazy shit it's bigotry yeah it's it's that simple it's uh it's like recognizes like right rand paul wants to be legislatively bigoted yeah trump wants to just say dumb shit yeah that's why he's gonna win yeah and now dumb people who say dumb shit like dumb people who say dumb shit yeah and so that's sort of where his position is at the beginning of the that's religion all right i'm topical i'm topical so he he's suggested that this show is gonna be

mostly about trump and he's not wrong he does end up taking a bunch of calls about trump but before he does he's got to get into a pretty serious issue that dovetails into a very racist proclamation black people are made of cheddar so what do you think about donald trump and then of course i'm just gonna say this every day because now is the season that folks actually care i've made films about i've written books about it uh i've covered it for 20 years also this is the summer so he's not talking about the physical season he's got to be talking about election season right right i mean because otherwise what is about to happen does not make sense this is not weather related it's not like christmas is coming up so we ought to bring up the

culture war right that's not what's going on no what's what's going on this is something i was informed of when i first got on air all the times you'll hear me say i've covered for 15 or i've covered it for 18 or i've covered it for 10 i've learned a lot in the process of every day focusing on what's happening in the world and talking to all these experts and all these guests and reading better books and and the information you send in and your phone calls i've been focused on this but on the subject of them harvesting babies and in planting their brains and mice and pigs cows and splicing them with spiders and jellyfish and you name it oh god i've known about that since day one because it's in scientific publications

that they were cloning human embryos 50 years ago probably earlier they've been splicing humans with everything under the sun so they don't have rights then they grow these humanoids up in these laboratories inside not artificial wombs but inside cows and inside pigs okay all right i'm back in and now they've reportedly got artificial wombs where they're growing them in and there's stocks trading on this stuff and i should hear talking to the public like are a bunch of kids and i'm telling them the atlantic ocean exists you're like really show me the atlantic ocean and just because you deny the atlantic ocean exists doesn't mean it's not there

and and it's it's key like how that's it again they go to your calls if the public understands that they're selling baby parts and keeping babies alive to harvest their organs and in planting their brains in mice if they understand yes they're giving mice human brains that was out 20 years ago it wasn't they're putting human brains in roaches too no they use rats they use mice they use roaches they're hooking brains up to computer chips i mean you name it they're doing it and that's what we know about how do you get the public to understand that's only the tip of the iceberg it's admitted the geoengineering so we'll get back what could possibly be underneath that if

that if the tip of the iceberg is splicing humans and everything under the sun what else got what what could be underneath that i don't know so uh but look i i we promised on the last episode that we had on the lost episode broken down some of these hybrid things yes these chimera things so i want to run through some of it really quick okay uh he talks about spider humans yes and that is not real that is based on a natural news dot com article about how there was a woman who realized a doctor not just not not a woman uh she's channeling alex jones they legitimize her great great dan she's a doctor and she realized that spider silk is incredibly strong and impenetrable and she theorized that you could make a skin that was bulletproof using spider and genes right

don't have you and she created a false skin that would be bulletproof right and she theorized that it might be possible to splice something into humans to make human skin impenetrable right it was a theory she thought it was possible wasn't testing it and it's not been being done but this blog natural news dot com wrote an article about it that said that she was that was saying that this is happening and the interesting thing about that is natural news dot com is run by info wars employee anthony gucciardi natural news dot com yes so what does he talk about natural news nature yeah like spider people that it seems like that's bad nature news there's a lot of like i mean it what animal would you want to be spliced with for your bulletproof skin well it has to be spider

that's the only one what about armadillo maybe armadillos are weird though i don't want to live in the desert i don't know the climate's not good okay all right how many bulletproofs i i think i'm going to go with for my bulletproofing jellyfish so that way i can absorb all the bullets they'll go right through me i'll be fine and you and a bunch of friends could mold your bodies together and make a boat yeah like jellyfish do that makes perfect super crazy those jellyfish then we'd be a lot like jesus so uh the other stuff that was one of jesus's powers right yeah made the boat out of uh jellyfish and philippians yep uh so the uh i don't know why that's funny but so it would be in philippines right human brains are not being put into mice and rats that's important

i love it i just love it if you look into it you can find articles about this there are uh some tests that have been done where in human stem cells are injected into mice in utero and they do create some of the architecture of human brains within the mice and the reason that they do this is because uh there are a lot of diseases Alzheimer's being one of them there are many degenerative diseases that can't be studied in humans while the brain is alive right it just would be impossible but with mice you can do it right and it's kind of fucked up it's ethically gray but the important piece to take away from it is uh it's research that's going towards getting rid of horrifying diseases right and that's a plus that's what these ethical medical people will discuss

that like it sucks it's kind of weird that we're doing this but at the end of the day if we can get rid of Alzheimer's that's a win for humanity so there's that but there have to be private conversations with those scientists where they're like this is fucking crazy wild we're throwing this shit in a mouse's brain why are we doing this so i love it alex pretends though that it's like your brain is going in a mouse and then you're gonna see out of my size god i now i want that to be real but it's not it's not they're still mice no i i get that they're they're a hundred percent still mice and there are guidelines in place where any mice that have human brain cells in them have to be killed within like two weeks oh that sucks yeah it does suck but it is just

part of the part of the testing i just now i really like so hold on listen listen scientists if you are listening they are just take out all the take just just for me just one time just take out all the mouse brain and just put in just put in a shit ton of human brain cells and if people give you a hard time hire us as your right man we'll take care of it because the because the truth there is like who doesn't want a super intelligent mouse one time i've read flowers for algeron i'm okay right i'm okay i got the fiction version i don't know we know how amazing well it wouldn't have to be this time we get it right we get it right that's the human story right we'll get it right this time we'll get it right this time and we never do no but uh maybe the

super intelligent mice people will get it right though alex's presupposition about it being like actually half human half mice is fucking absurd if you know anything about science further the stuff about cows we went over on the last episode right so we we can we can throw that one aside right cows with tits yeah basically alex saw a doctored picture and thought it was real uh the pig stuff is all just about growing uh human organs within pigs right it's not an exact science and isn't widespread in practice at all uh and it's not these pigs aren't part human no further i was talking to my doctor buddy doctor gums about this and he is a saint for humoring me about my dumbass questions but i was asking him that like what alex seems to be afraid

of in some way is that we're putting these human brains into mice and they're gonna breed and it's gonna create races of super huge like super mice right but again i'm totally on board with this but that's impossible as long as it's mice right like no rats fine i like your i like your stipulation there yeah but it it would not pass down to the children in the same way that if you put like you know how there are those like uh those techno dudes yeah you can put an implant of a magnet in your finger or something like that yeah if you do that and you have a kid you're not gonna have magnet hands are you sure impossible so you can do this stuff and it's not oh yeah i got hereditary magnets it's oh these animals don't reproduce and even if they do a receding hairline and i got a

magnet in my finger even if they did it's dad wouldn't pass down alex is afraid of like this planet of the ape scenario and it just is not at all what's being done it's not possible right so alex jones is just fucking these all this chimera stuff is based on in the same way he doesn't understand what john holdren's textbook was about right he doesn't understand these articles he's reading and i know that because on his show when he's talking about these things he flashes up the articles that he's talking about and i found them and read them and what i'm explaining to you is what they say right it's not at all like decorating it's not that yeah but don't you love this alex jones i love the fear mongering about chimeras alex jones don't give me muslim

hating give me a fun fear if i have to choose one yes totally uh also uh listener madison tweeted at us made a really good point uh and that is that alex might be talking about the dulcy base okay are you aware of the dulcy base of course not uh i don't know how to i'm aware of a very boring sea base which one's that a dull sea base god damn i hate you so much i hate you so much yes yes i'm gonna score a one for all right one point jordan i like the idea i like the idea that we now keep score yes there's an arbitrary yes no rules system this is like who's learned is it anyways but for alex jones related podcast i'm trying to figure out a way to bring improv into this oh god so uh the dulcy base is i believe it's in new mexico i i did some looking into

this a while back but a a bit of it has escaped me but suffice it to say i did a bunch of research into it and it's bullshit of course basically there is an army base and nine floors underground the reptilians all right all right fully you you sold me sir edge of my seat territory now the reptilians are working with humans down under the dulcy base and there's all kinds of secret experimentation going on down there it's uh i mean it's all that's a doctor who plot basically yeah yeah so there are space aliens working with people to create hybrids and all this shit under i would say that's a matt smith uh doctor who plot and all of the there's a bunch of bases that are connected by underground tunnels where these secret reptilians work and all this it's david ike level the

infrastructure costs on underground bases are just prohibitive yeah yeah yeah do it do it on the bottom of the ocean is what i'm saying an easier score one for me okay you get one there all right all right you it's a good call back so suffice it to say he might be talking about dulcy base and if he is that's crazy if he's not still crazy yep but he's also misrepresenting everything now i promised that this clip was gonna end in something weirdly racial and we're about to get to it did you promise that i did i said it earlier oh i turned my phone off i was sleeping part of the way on the way back i woke up it turns out i was driving we're flying over canada over the pole from europe and i see a jet flying about you rarely see this at 33 000 35 000 feet

maybe flying 2 000 yards away i mean it close big flying the other direction and it had ice crystals forming behind it and by the time i fumbled and turned my phone on because we're flying on the same path just the other direction they were gone i was watching the ice crystals disappear in front of me as we flew by the jet a they were forming at high altitudes like they're supposed to be it was dissipating within 30 seconds that's the condensation trail we all grew up with and see there's an example when you're awake everything is incredible because you see the propaganda you see the manipulation you see the mysteries you wonder what else is going on and what am i getting it

it's manhattan projects in top of manhattan projects it's a manhattan project with the human cloning they've kept quasi-secret it's a manhattan project squared with i don't even know how you do the geoengineering which is admittedly going on but again all the specifics are classified and it's like what are they doing underground bases clones spraying stuff in the atmosphere boarding half the black people again and i can't get white people black people nobody i'm like they're killing half of you i'm sorry some cop shot one of you and you're making a big deal george soros you can't turn into that on this fuck you because it's divide and conquer the mainstream media is pushing it can't we come together and say what are you spraying so his

version of can't we all get along is what are you spraying yeah so it's in particularly an angry homeowner at his neighbor what are you spraying out there huh is that round up that dbt so it's in i don't know where that neighbor comes from i don't know either the 70s yeah it's in particularly poor taste that i mean we are looking at what he said in 2015 but this is on the heels of like fergusson happened not too long before this yeah the charleston shooting happened a mere month before this or so so how do you not get how incredibly racist it is to wave it away right even if you even if you think it's not that big of a problem shouldn't you at least have some sort of empathy with why people are angry no because they're dumb because they

don't know what they're spraying up there but a guy just got murdered by the cops can't you at least for one second be like oh and it's bad that black people are getting murdered by the cops he doesn't even say that he's like you guys are distracted by it not like not this is a tragic event and it's a distraction and not this is bad and you've fallen for this dumb old jews trick uh what you know his perception of george soros i was gonna say i thought you i thought you were saying that no like i thought you thought i had fallen for no no he's he's he's saying that everyone who's mad about these things are just tricked by george soros and it's divide and conquer because if we came together we'd be able to find out about what are you spraying right when his

story about being on a plane was not seeing chemtrails so yeah that's what i that was that's what really confused me because i i remember listening to this clip and being like wait was he saying the jet was good or bad but now i'd listen back to it and he's saying like all of this happened like it's supposed to yeah so what's your story were you gonna get out your phone to take a picture of like and here's good things no no i think his story is that like bullshit every other time it doesn't look like this real time i think that's maybe what he's getting at but it's not true either and that's why they're aborting black people right uh because this plane looked all right speaking of abortions jordan oh no uh our next clip is where we begin uh what you have not heard

from the august 10th episode he gets more into trump but in this next clip he directly contradicts things he said in the past you know like on the on the issues of him you know used to be for abortion whatnot you know just like yourself like you said you've been involved in him in the past like myself i used to believe in it but thought it was about women's rights but you know you come along on those issues once you start learning more and more about it well sure and it'd be specific i wasn't paying for him i wasn't involved in that you paid for them other than the fact that news was going on and didn't do enough to stop it uh and in a way that's a coward's way it's almost more cowardly what i did kind of blind eyeing it than in there pushing for it so let me be clear uh it was very

cowardly and and and and and and bad and not good for my family name uh and low uh the way i was when i was say 18 20 years old and i repent of that too bad you now have to repent for lying because either that or the time you said and i quote i don't judge people who have gotten abortions hell i've paid for them yeah uh one of those is a lie alex yeah guess which one is a lie of course he paid for abortions no i think we actually have clarified on he did i think we've clarified on a past episode his dad paid for him right oh that's true so he might not actually which is even more of a coward's way out yeah so there might be a three part a tripartite lie going on where all three of these are kind of lies it's a triangle of lies yeah but be that as it may come

on alex just back and it's like he's in a romantic comedy with lying yeah he had a meet cute with abortion back when he was 18 so i was walking down the park uh and uh i just i just bumped into this abortion and i was like oh my god it is love at first sight so can i pay for you so for the for the rest of i would say a large part of this episode we get to get a really good glimpse into what alex jones's mind was like on august 10th 2015 about what who donald trump is and what he thinks about him he says a whole bunch and we're not seeing a real change in now and we know for a fact just because you know we live in 2017 that in december he alex has donald trump on the show right and this is four months before that so something has to really really pivot and we don't

like you think you'd see it by now and it's not yeah especially with how into him he is immediately following that where he's he's full on like donald trump is the next jesus and i'm not saying that because he came on my show yeah might end up being the case it could just be that couldn't it it could be that simple and if it is he got a jerk session from trump and that was it if that's the case that's fucking insane so here he is a star fucker though here's this next clip where alex again is pretty right about trump on trump uh look this guy's a playboy he's a party animal my big concern is i think he's black maleable big time uh he's involved the casino business that's as dirty a business as they come how can you be so right i don't have a good gut feeling about trump i know

overall him specifically i don't have a bad gut feeling but the whole process just feels like a setup but at the same time well he got a defending because what he's saying is true so so how do you separate that dichotomy from what he's saying is true so they're attacking what he sings you got to defend it because what he's saying is true but at the same time i've got some concerns so i mean he he's wrong that what trump is saying is true but he's right about the bigger picture you know he is super black maleable right well see and again this is our cover for running as republicans we're being blackmailed no oh it's you can't look yes we've said some very progressive things in the past sure yes maybe i've said some jailable things but what what i'm saying now is

true so you got to defend me you got to give me the best that's how that's how easy republicans are as long as as long as they have something or or or at least libertarians right well as long as they feel like they're under attack or at least their ideas are under attack they'll support who's ever saying them and they always feel like their ideas are under attack exactly you know it's so easy to become a republican politician you know what i've kind of come to realize it's just that social progress and people being equal is an attack to people on the conservative side yeah well if so they've you've always been number one the idea that everybody becomes equal to that seems exactly like you're falling yeah so if everybody goes up that feels like you're not

as high as you used to be sure so it's it seems you know and also i think it's just they're mad at problems that will not and cannot be solved for them like the solutions they want are impossible as we've talked about coal jobs aren't coming back no we have fucking robots i get that you're mad about that but you're losing to robots like that's not going to stop it's an inevitable tide right i they're mad about immigration that we have a statue that says come on in oh giving me your week you're tired yeah you get like no matter how much you fight against that the only way that that stops is if donald trump becomes a literal dictator and starts standing on our borders with knives which frankly if that's the worst that he does i'm fine with it that's a hell of a wall

yeah if you just have tons of just donald trump no just a bunch of donald trump just a bunch of clone now we're cloning now we're back to cloning clone them in uh sheep bellies so one of the things that happens on this episode that's kind of fun is that alex takes some uh some polls around the uh around the studio he wants what does he think he's gonna get he wants to check the temperature of the studio check the temperature of his staff about what they think about donald trump right so we got a guy in the control booth here named joe jennings who i don't think works there anymore i'm gonna guess based on the things he says in this clip when alex asks him what do you think about trump i want to go back to the crew in the control room then back to the callers

john walt and others that are holding i wanted to go to joe jennings uh joe what is your view overall on donald trump what's your take alex i mean uh why does the country need a megalomaniacal narcissistic bully to pull it out of the rut that's just not what america's about well nipoli helped oh yeah nipoli and helplig were got him there was another guy that was pretty confident in germany yeah he did a good job pretty good on population control too well you talk about killing germans he got 20 million germans killed oh yeah i just i i i can't believe what trump is saying i so we'll get back oh joe jj jj bubby you do not have a job for much longer we'll get back to the rest of his comments but like ever alex is so mad that everybody compares donald trump to hitler

you just did just compared him to hitler and napoleon yeah and in like a positive light like hey these guys worked out no he's joking you can tell he's joking i don't know no he's he's he's comparing trump to like dictators and and he's when he's saying that like there was a guy in germany who was pretty confident he's fucking around he thinks that's a bit no he's joking saying positive things about hitler in order to compare trump to him right in a negative way he's saying negative things hmm so everybody uh it's fair game trump hitler stuff is fair game now i kind of think alex likes hitler it's possible i kind of think i just can't believe that that would be a good choice for the country yeah okay screw everybody you know i'm donald trump and

we're in the u.s and who cares that is a great donald trump he's doing an impression of alex in two years like he's doing a future alex impression that he doesn't even know it that is true it's fucking amazing yeah move over anthony atamanic i just don't think that's the way we should be going but we're being dominated by the bullies of political correctness don't you see though that i'm not disagreeing with you joe overall people's responses they want somebody to throw it back in the face of the establishment the problem is he comes out of that very establishment is a very slick salesman with a lot of charisma and so we have to debate his providence and if he's for real uh i think he could be for real i'm not saying he is i think

he could actually want to be president actually want to save the country there have been a lot of leaders who were macho and arrogant who were not evil who were able to pull countries out of a rut by having confidence and giving people the perception of confidence uh the problem is a lot of times they turn into men on white horses like napoleon bonaparte that's where we get the saying or fucking white horse so in comes uh in in rides the man on a white horse yeah so i mean he he is a little bit saying that hey hitler had some good quality that's what he's saying he got them out of a rut that's what he's saying at the cost of millions of people's lives the craziest part is that these guys are right jode is but yeah like jennings is right literally everybody

including idiotic info wars people were right about donald trump the only people wrong about donald trump were 25 percent of the worst people on the planet and you got a kind of suspect that even the people who are working for trump the roger stones and shit oh yeah they were right too oh they knew exactly the worst possible way yeah uh you want to know something else alex is right about what this next clip is fucking scary this next clip he predicts almost exactly what's going to happen in the world jesus christ that can't be true i told you he he might be a soothsayer and this next clip he talks to the one good ghost in his family mike down for this one because it's uh it's scary uh and absolutely uh trump almost talks like he's some foreign

leader he's like your leaders are this your leaders are that your leaders are idiots and you're right no our leaders are compromised sold out to globalist and part of a plan to bring down the world economy and on its back introduce the new planetary government that's been admitted with the pope now calling for it so we've reached this epic point and maybe they're gonna give us trump as a strong man during the collapse uh to then bring in fascism i mean let me tell you the tea party and conservatism and libertarianism is hyper sexy hyper popular hyper growing but it can easily be twisted into a form of fascism and just like the democrats are a cult of communist wannabes led by fascist i mean they are a drooling knuckle

dragging cult uh that don't look anything like their predecessors that were very good on many points but the republicans during this dumbing down can flip and metastasize into something just as nasty and all i know is something big is about to happen so i mean right there in that clip alex jones 100 predicts the rise of mike cernovich he predicts the rise of gaven beginnis he predicts what he will become and this to me tells me that he's not the same man even on august 10th 2015 as he will be probably at the end of 2015 and not just that but he predicts that they will be overtaken by totalitarians yeah that that the the tea party and the right wing are completely susceptible to fascism it's amazing yeah how did he do that he has an an a very amazing insight

into his own group which he now completely lacks that is that is bananas that is i refuse i refuse to believe that and this this is the craziest part this is before like sarah kensier and and all of those people this is before people are talking about sarah was still talking about it before then oh okay she was in because she was fine a mainstream she was publishing stuff like over the summer oh so we're we're into the territory where she was already issuing a warning okay the point being the man for that shit nobody in the mainstream that everybody was treating him as a joke yep alex jones is the only person who's like hey republicans are fucking fascists i don't know if you guys notice this or not no this is bananas he's not saying that he's saying that

they're susceptible to it yeah which is i mean it's predictive in some ways it's it's fascinating that he knows that and yeah but he's not saying that they're going to be what what makes me really scared about that clip is that in the same way that when i first discovered the clip where he was talking about trump being mobbed up i was like the fact that you know that and you changed your mind means something big right that means that in your head you learned something that precluded your knowledge of his mob ties this clip proves that whatever happened made him okay with becoming this thing that he's afraid of like he in this clip is saying that the the right wing is susceptible to fascism uh they're susceptible to becoming this metastasized ugly ugly thing uh and like him

and yeah like he's so like he basically just looked in a mirror and he was like you know what i think i might be susceptible to fascism he's aware of it and he lets it happen which and not just lets it happen openly advocates for it to happen and assists in the rise of these other right wingers uh who are completely scary yeah the people like i listed like mike cernovich like rebel media jack possobiak types like he is he's complicit in all of these things that he's ostensibly issuing a warning about right as it relates to trump yeah so he knows he knows what he's doing on some level i think that's scary this is bananas yeah that clip to me was uh very unsettling so i like okay i don't think it's blackmail i think with alex yeah okay i think

it's a shit ton of money no if there's one thing i know about alex i don't think so he loves money he does but i don't think that i don't think that he would give up his future career prospects just for money because i think he has a good operation going swindling his his fans right like i don't think that you could but imagine he was promised a tv show where he gets to do the same thing i mean he's gonna make so much more money yeah but i do also believe him that people have offered him tv shows in the past i agree like that part i do believe but again the the conversation we've had about that if trump tv came into being and was on tv he still couldn't do things on that channel he couldn't do on fox but that's the promise what you can just say whatever bullshit you want

yes but fox would let him do that too i don't think so i think that i think that was the regulations i think that was i think that was exactly the conversation yeah that fox was like yes we will let you spout crazy bullshit but only to a point and trump was like dude i don't give a fuck i i okay i think that that's not enough i think if he let him run trump tv or something like that okay then maybe okay maybe gets his own tv show network and mercer gets his own network all right i'm gonna pull it back from network no because i don't think a show is enough for him okay because he would he would need to pull us 30 million dollars from the mercy would need to control the entire uh like a narrative of the network in order for him to really deem it worth

his time right because otherwise if you look at just the growth pattern of info wars i mean it's been 20 years that he's been doing it but the first like 10 weren't that great right or so the he's had a pretty steady rise in the past and pretty impressive rise if he were to look at his growth and be like okay this guy is trying to get me on board with him that i know is mob connected and i'm worried that he might lead our people into fascism i am gonna need something that is out of the question for my potential to gain you know what i mean like right if if info wars keeps growing at the current rate if we expand in the ways that i know i'm capable of doing because been doing it for years i need something i could never achieve on my own he gets to kill a globalist

on tv might have already we don't know that that's true we don't know that he killed pierce morgan's career all right you get a point for that thank you i'm in the lead that's two to one i don't know it's it's interesting to speculate about but what i mean what's most fun about speculating about it is we're speculating about a counterfactual because he didn't trump didn't lose no and alex didn't he clearly didn't get what he needed right whatever that thing was which leads me to think that there wasn't an arrangement like that because then like alex isn't dumb enough to be like okay if you lose i get to control your tv network and not have a contingency plan of what do i get if you win and it can't just be tons of money

and it can't be okay i don't know it's i it's it can't boil down to pure bigotry i can't believe that it can't i can't believe that it's just purely i love how trump hates muslims as much as i do and it doesn't feel right that it's just out and out star fuckery either right he came on my show right because this is major it really is he is the guy who's all about freedom and libertarian values and free market and blah blah blah and he's worried about trump leading us into fascism and he knows he's and trump is leading us into fascism and is destroying the free market yeah and so if alex really understood the things that he is concerned about after trump won he would be able to see these signs and these road markers and be like i have gotten on the wrong team right and he's

not even close to that yeah but also that would be admitting that he didn't get on the right team which he can't do either but that would be huge i think that that would be fine not for him i think as listeners that means he would have to say he was wrong so what there's what do you mean so what it's alex fucking jones there's a way to do that powerfully we talked about it even the pizza gate thing he still can't say he was wrong well we've talked about it there's a way for him to do that that doesn't make him emasculate it there's a way to present it as i was i was completely lied to i had this supposition or whatever i mean he missed the chance if you really wanted to yeah no it's too late for that now well no it's possible something could happen that he could

turn a mountain a molehill into a mountain right that's true that's true the chance that he had was that when trump announced that he's a globalist but i'm a nationalist and a globalist that's true that's when alex could have been like look guys roger stone has been telling me a lot of bullshit uh and he'd have to make a clean break with roger stone of course and he'd have to change all of his reporters perspective they'd have to be like look we got conned uh and it would be possible he could do it think about his listeners though i i think they would absolutely if they bought into him they would try and kill trump no it's well yeah maybe i think they would totally try and kill trump that's possible yeah if if if alex came out and was like uh oh red alert trump just revealed

he's a globalist his listeners who did buy it of which i would assume 90 percent no i think he would have to i think he would lose some because a lot of people really love trump but look okay i was telling you that he's taking calls through a lot of this show and most of them weren't worth it so i didn't clip them but one is coming up that you'll see and it's very indicative of all of the calls that he gets and they're all just parroting his opinion back to him okay they're all just he says these true things and i like him but i don't trust him right all of his callers basically just have whatever perspective he tells them to have so whenever he takes these calls it's a very rare thing for someone to have a narrative that doesn't match up with his right in the same way that old

man wyoming calls in and says all these things that you believe in and maybe some slight variations but with the same narrative you know john mccain wants you to not have vitamins right so like i i think that he it would be a pivot certainly right but i don't think he would lose that many people i think people are built into the cult of personality that he already has so what you're saying is we need to weaponize alex jones well he could say i found documents or something like that he could say that there's some report that he got that proved the trump was lying to him the whole time oh my god we could just tweet at paul joseph watson and he probably believe i think he's been bitten he's been snake bitten on that one so i don't think he's not going to fall for that again

but you know it's it's really fucked up we could speculate all night long but we got a few more clips we got to get through okay so suffice it to say alex jones is really fucking aware of what he's doing in ways that we didn't realize before because that clip spells it the fuck out yeah so in this next clip alex jones is on a call with a guy who is basically parroting his opinions back to him and uh you remember that earlier comparison about hitler yeah this one is a little bit worse so who do you think donald trump is deep down well i agree with him on vaccines and i agree with a lot of what he's saying but the establishment is using him as a way to basically ignore rand paul you know the more

they attack him the larger he grows uh and i think he's for global government and uh would be a good hold position no larger uh global structure i agree with you wow what an informed uh involved audience we have again what should happen to trump politically you know he's being promised a lot if he is a shell to to to play the part of judice is scary it against america because he knows what's going on he's a smart guy he's even speculating that he's judice and alex isn't a gnostic so he doesn't believe that judice was a good guy oh are we sure i'm pretty sure all right because a lot of his beliefs don't match up with gnosticism that's true uh it's just weird but it's a weird christianity that's not

gnosticism yeah because uh because for those of you who don't know judice in the uh the gnostic gospels is uh he's working with jesus well yeah jesus uh wants him to give him up to the roman well and that's the only way that it makes any goddamn sense anyways and i would like imagine imagine if well there's that imagine if there was a chance that jesus didn't get killed what would the religion be that's true like the whole thing has to be a setup it was a game it was a two-man game sure like it was a con like alex and roger exactly uh maybe their end game is to sacrifice trump much like jesus holy shit all right there we go now we're getting to it now we've got it maybe alex's role is to eventually be the judice and then we get to watch trump get publicly crucified

like that would be like you called for an episode i didn't call for it i said it would be fine i think you called for it i didn't say it's a good idea i think you called for it but with the stipulation of a trial and that's true all that's right legal so uh just like jesus right you got a fair trial man i've gone but i've been going back and reading a lot of scripture as a 33 year old man uh how's it going it's interesting there's a lot of stuff that i i don't i didn't remember uh there there's a lot of angles to stuff i don't want to get too into it right now i'm not prepared to give my thesis okay but your bible thesis yeah there's your jesus thesis uh so jordan this uh yes stan this next clip i'm gonna give myself a point for that one this next clip is one of the most

inappropriate things i've ever heard on the show but not in a like horrifying way just in a i'm not okay with this just i'm really not okay with this it just bums you it's just a very uncool thing to you'll be very bummed out to it's alex taking a caller said i want to take a bunch of calls this is one caller is all i got to there uh christian in texas you're on the air than julia hello yes go ahead oh yeah alex paper taking my call um always 14 years old but i've been listening to your show for about two years but uh what i told my parents and some friends and i said you know i'm not old enough to vote but you know you know people who are 18 older adults have the you know they can vote and it affects them

whatever you know what happened in this country affects them and affects you know us the youth but you know about don't you're going places with that you know he seems good what he's talking about and he seemed to you know he seems like he's would make a great present but i just have a feeling that if he does become president that he's gonna be just like obama you know he went out there and said oh i'm not gonna take your shot i'm not gonna take your uh handguns and i could take your semiautos but look what he's trying to do so here we have a 14 year old calling into info wars who's been listening for two years since he was 12 right since he was in the sixth grade he's listening to this toxic garbage who let him listen to this bad parents so he's listening to

alex jones ostensibly i would assume regularly and he calls in and what does he do he just directly mirrors the opinions that alex jones exposed or expounds so you have a guy who's calling in who's not an adult his brain is still forming and it's clear and it's not doing a great job of it well it's clear that alex jones is having a profound impact on him absolutely this kid doesn't understand the nuances of gun control issues even and he's saying that obama was trying to take your gun he wasn't he didn't do it he didn't do any of that stuff they're still trying to make it they're still trying to make it seem like he did yeah well this is 2015 so obama was still in office right that is it may like this is so inappropriate if a 14 year old like tweeted at me

and said they liked our show i would be like please don't listen to the show as even even though i agree with the things i'm saying i don't i don't i'm very not what i would do i would be like all right you need to become a policy walk give us we're gonna eat your lunch money why not they're they're young and impressionable let's con 14 year olds why haven't we picked up on this game man well because it's super immoral it's super immoral it's what cult leaders do this is this is culture yeah no absolutely and alex jones's response to this 14 year old calling in should be something along the lines of hey dude you can't drive you can't see all rated movies you should not be listening to my show there's a lot of adult content on this show and you know

a lot i mean it's covered under free speech for the most part that everything he says it's not illegal to say but it is there needs to be parental discretion it's not pretty it you can't have a kid listening to chimera shit because that kid can't research that he's not going to be able to figure out like the nuances of science and what alex is actually talking about he's not going to be able to figure out that he's being lied to and it's evidenced by the fact that he's just mirroring alex and alex and he's called what 14 year old calls into a radio show i called into the radio when i was 14 oh yeah yeah what'd you talk about i just requested songs and shit well there you go i called into like did you request uh chimeras of the heart

i remember that song yeah i think now i called into uh called in asked them to play the mighty mighty boss tones that's what i called in for there you called into the hot five at nine yeah there you go try to get uh y107 can't remember what the all the radio stations were back in columbia but like uh yeah i tried to get them to play the boss tones i told i this was my big first radio about my break because i always had a fairly deep voice growing up and so i called in and i played the role of an adult and i told the guy like i'll give you my house give me my wife give me my car i should play some of those boss tones because i knew if i said something like that he'd play it on the internet yeah of course and of course he does of course i'm sitting there

listening to the radio and of course it's not nothing's live so he had just recorded that and used it as a bumper to play the impression that i get and i was like i'm on the fucking radio yeah felt great you conned him no not really i just we lied you lied it was symbiotic because i never said i was an adult i just let him believe that i okay all right but be that as it may yeah that's how con is the con artists aren't like okay never mind this is what 14 year old should be doing not listening to out listening to the mind i do not support 14 year olds listening to the mighty mighty that's a great social messages do not support it so the other thing though to go back to mambo number five kid all right i'll give you a point for that one you're gonna negative yeah i

got a negative point so the thing the thing though there is the kid does have a good point in as much as politics does affect us right as well i can't vote but what happens does affect people who are too young to vote that's a great point and there is a discussion that should be had around that i don't know maybe call linda ellerby instead right host of nick news you know do something like that like there's more appropriate venues for getting kids involved in expressing themselves like rock the vote right things that aren't info wars anything that's not info wars anyway this call is not done oh no i hear you and god bless you christian uh as the 14 year old listening for two years what perspective has this broadcast given you oh god no um it's it's really it's really

opened up my eyes and to see what's going on i mean i used to you know i didn't care care for the news but i figured out that you know all this stuff it it affects us and that um you know and today's in school as i was me going to school i mean i realized that they're pretty much brainwashing us and that they say it's it's ridiculous oh it's outrageous badmouthing the institution of marriage now they're saying marriage is bad because it hurts people's feelings again it's cult like good to hear from you appreciate your call julia in kentucky you're on the air that's inexcusable that's fucked up alex jones should not be signing off on what a 14 year old believes especially not like hey kid don't believe that school you go to right they're lying to you

that school that you're going to the one that's teaching you things that's filling your brain with knowledge maybe you're gonna learn about math maybe you're gonna learn about art maybe you're gonna learn about literature nope it's all lies only info wars it's good to have an inquisitive mind and a healthy distrust those things are good they are things that you should encourage in youth uh critical thinking skills those sorts of things are absolutely good but what's not good is demonizing all authority figures and saying that they're trying to brainwash you that's not healthy because then you grow up super paranoid right you grow up with a perception that anything that seems official can't be trusted you become eddy bravo this is young eddy bravo

dinosaurs aren't real yeah this is young eddy bravo he's gonna mellow out he's not gonna be angry he's just gonna be dumb for your your underlying thesis is that eddy bravo in modern day is 17 years old which i don't know if i agree with but uh yeah so that would be bad if alex jones had a regular show right and like i grew up listening to love line all the time right and they would get callers who were fairly young uh on and it was because everybody fucks well or they have concerns about puberty and stuff like that and that's relevant to the show right and though adam corolla did make a lot of jokes they always tried to deal with people in a very sensitive way dr drew did a lot of you could tell he put in a lot of effort into understanding what your brain is like when you're 14 and not

trying to fuck with that brain right so while it is still super weird the 14 year olds were calling two adult men at midnight yeah that's weird it was super weird it was dealt with in a healthy and productive way like it wasn't it's not this this is i think it maybe should be illegal for alex to say those things to a 14 year old that is a good question that is a really good question the only problem there is then you start getting into just how far like is it any media that says bullshit like this like i know i think you shouldn't be allowed to watch fox news i know if you're under the age of an alive eighty i know that it does it does introduce and i shouldn't have brought up making it illegal or whatever that's not really what i mean but

in a perfect world where there's good parenting a kid should not be listening to right the fucking world went crazy because they saw janet jackson's tit for two seconds but a 14 year old is allowed to listen to this shit well yeah and this next clip is really demonstrative of what kids should not be listening to we're gonna go to rich and others here in just a moment that i'm gonna come back hit a bunch of news we haven't really hit yet place some important clips you know i don't want to say i have ferguson fatigue oh no no don't say it public being played because there is some police brutality there is militarization of police there are a lot of real problems wave it away no big deal but the feds are globalist occupied they want to smash local police departments

run them into the arms of the globalist and that's why george soros is spending over a hundred million dollars 30 plus million in ferguson alone to stir this up and has really hired a lot of nasty political operators to do it and in most of the cases the justifiable shootings the police are engaged in there are other ones where they're absolutely executions and when there's evidence of it they're indicting the police officers nope there's video of just a cop pulls a gun and just shoots a white person for no reason or shoots a black person it's crazy and bigger than population blacks being 13% black males being about 6% it is disproportionate black males being killed in cold blood just can't deny it

stop but stop stop right there no stop right there dying from abortion or you know heart disease and all this other stuff it's just it just doesn't even show up on the scale kids should not hear angles like that they don't know how to parse the nuance of stuff like that and realize where the lie is where's the manipulation the it's terrible that not human beings are not allowed to become human beings and it's terrible that old human beings are dying of shit old people die of right but you know it's not that bad that young men with families are being executed murdered yeah murdered and there are no consequences for it well he even does not exist he lies there and he says that the cops are being indicted well actually that might not be true they are

being indicted but they're being acquitted yeah so it's not it's it this system in his head where it all works out it doesn't it does not work out that's why we're angry about it and he's fully aware there again in the same way that it's a revelation that he's aware that the tea party is susceptible to fascism right he just said right there it's he's fully aware that statistically black men are being killed by the police in very anomalous numbers and yet at the same time he's still denies that racism really exists he's never seen white people being raised exactly how do you reconcile those two things i oh i actually think this next clip actually helps i think we might be able to reconcile oh no i don't want to reconcile the two uh well it it doesn't

really but i think it explains where some of his inability to think comes from we need to get my judge live on the show he's big less churn listens all the time he even let me shoot video i'm shooting out of his house a couple times i never heard it for some reason uh i need to hear that video it's pretty good video well i got a little excited during one shot it's probably why i haven't heard it i got a boner we've got like 15 people shooting 308s ar-15s you name it at a huge box is the camera right i say huge boxes you know maybe five 10 pound boxes and while i'm talking a couple of them blow up and there's pieces of uh sender block flying around and uh one of them hits me in the back of the head maybe that's why i never put that video out

but it was good fun he's walking brain damage yeah maybe that's why he has the inability to integrate information he is he may literally be brain damage he was stuck under a house inhaling fumes as a child he has said that he got his head smashed around knocked in the concrete when he was young when he's an adult here he's telling a story about shooting explosives and a cinder block came flying out of an explosion and hit him in the back of the head that's fucking serious yeah at the very least that's a concussion yeah that can kill you yeah that should kill you and his mom didn't love him so we figured it out there's the most all of alex jones right here there's brain damage and poor parenting it's emotional damage and brain damage synthesized into one person who just is unable

to really deal with what facts are he doesn't know how to read probably because some of this brain damage so he reads things he assumes the worst he thinks that people are winking at it oh that also explains why he took 30 minutes to read that two minute long article probably that daily collar article exactly explains why he thinks he's talking to ghosts exactly explains why all it like all of this is just a man we like we have a grand unified field theory of alex jones we need and that is he is brutally brain damage we need to get him a CT scan yeah but because it may even if you have brain damage like there are moments of lucidity and maybe that's what this trump thing is yeah these moments of insight about trump and the inevitable slide into fascism are the vestiges of his brain

that works and maybe maybe taking all of these supplements is it helping it killed the rest of the brain that worked that's possible yeah this might ironically be a flowers for alger non situation a reverse flowers for alger yeah yeah so maybe we need to get a mouse brain in him yeah oh that'd be fun yeah so we had two more clips here what we got one last one from august 10th right and like I said earlier we got the perspective of joe jennings the employee of info wars who had some negative things to say about trump and now alex uh wants to ask anthony gucciardi uh the guy who runs natural news dot com right i assume joe jennings has already been killed off offscreen they eat him yeah uh so i don't think we made a good enough fine enough point about the fact that info wars employee

anthony gucciardi writes these blogs on natural news dot com then alex reports on it as news yeah i don't think we clarified that that's the cycle yeah but it is a vicious propaganda cycle right right right because it seems like it's independent confirmation when it is absolutely not not even close no and so anthony gucciardi is sitting in uh he's not in studio he's back in the control booth and alex wants to get his perspective about trump at the same time it's like yes he is blackmailable yes also it's a cost benefit analysis is the hillary campaign can actually pay him off more money to uh side with them but he's going and being real and that's what people like people like so that's the message is people want genuine even if he's not really genuine the genuine

race genuine is king yeah exactly even if he's not genuine the appearance of genuine is king absolutely again that's another revelatory right on it yeah and i think that he takes that to heart he takes his own lesson to heart uh because he screams now all the time about how i'm real yeah and so i don't know we're seeing the foundation here this is such a this is such a weird twisting and turning investigation yeah it's bananas but i think brain damage does explain a whole lot i think brain damage really gets to the heart of it yeah i would i think we should crowd source like a ct scan a compulsory cc scan yeah or we i mean he could volunteer for it but like really make a big deal out of it be like alex jones we will get on auto ship

if you submit to a brain scan because i think we'll even buy one of each color of those t-shirts that never got made i'll wear cnn his ices shirts around for sure that actually sounds like a fun shirt if you get checked out you won't do it though no i bet he has cte i bet he has i bet he has the yeah i bet he has memory loss i bet he's fucking he's he's hurting well yeah i mean the you know let's steal his brain someone should study it yeah when you are we'll reverse inject it when you are the victim of traumas to your head when you're younger it makes a huge impact when you're older as opposed to when you're like 20 you can get hit around the head a little bit it's not so bad but he talks about these rites of passage and all these fights that he got in when he was like

12 to 16 which is the sweet spot for a really bad thing happening yeah that's why people are concerned about people who play football in like junior high or high school absolutely is it like if you get a concussion at that age it's way more serious you could be fucked up for good for the rest of your life yeah absolutely and i mean we're compiling this evidence it really looks like that's what's going on with him wow yeah so we're done with august 10th yeah except we're not quite how is this possible on august 10th alex teased for the next day he's got an interview with a huge astronaut he is he's like this astronaut got in touch with me i don't say his name he's a big deal okay his astronaut got in touch all right he wants to break some big news since we know he talks to

ghosts i'm assuming it's one of the challenger it's sally ride yeah exactly uh no he's like uh he's like you know it's just it's great he said he wants to break some big news here on the show and we're gonna have it gonna interview him tomorrow tune in it's gonna be great he's teasing the fuck out of it yeah yeah so i turn on august 11th right and it's god damn david night hosting bullshit so i'm like what's going on right hey uh david night's like alex jones is gonna be in later so skip to interview the to interview the astronaut forward quite a bit yeah and we get to his interview with a gentleman by the name of story musgrave and i did not know that name uh if that is an astronaut that name should be all over nasa story musgrave is a huge astronaut is he a large

he's a legit okay i looked him up cool he's done a lot of really great work he was involved with designing space stations and shit that's cool as fuck he's done a lot of missions in space that's fucking awesome he's super legit now how does this go well this can't go well so i want to give you a couple of important factors i just wish that it went well but it's not going to go well in 2015 he's 90 if he's a day oh okay he had been retired for 18 years okay in 2015 all right uh alex thinks that he's calling in to give him some big info on the secret space program and shit like that and be like tell you about uh you know the wonders of space and he does he does tell him like about how great space is cool stuff like that he talks about how the perception of the earth changes when

you're outside of earth then you look down on it pale blue dot yeah that whole thing that you hear from every astronaut that like all of your troubles seem so small when you look at the grand scale right and you see the universe and you see how everything is is is is much bigger yeah we need to make sure we defund nasa right otherwise people will get that kind of perspective all over the place alex is trying to get trying to lead him down roads that would reveal conspiracy shit yeah and the guy is not into it okay he just wants to sort of talk about how great uh his career was and how how interesting space travel is and how he wants to encourage people to dream and wants to tell his story it's he's awesome yeah it seems like that's a super awesome guy

he's fucking awesome alex the whole time is sitting there with his head in his hand like oh god no he's like i've blown it he finally got a genuinely inspiring message and he's like fuck this the guy talks about how even monsters need inspiration well story musgrave is telling talking about how like when he was a boy he had to drop out of school to work and he was like you know he he wasn't properly educated as a child went back became a doctor uh and then got into space fuck yeah as i recall he has had the most space voyages of any american that's fucking awesome and he's he's telling this super inspirational awesome story but alex is so pissed that it's not the interview he thought it was gonna be but no so i want to play just that's the most

interesting thing that he could possibly run yeah i don't have clips of the actual interview because it it's really visual like alex's disappointment is super visual right but i want to play the beginning of the interview and then the end of the interview no but he does kind of rush out of it okay but the beginning is gorgeous uh again this is a mic down situation because uh this this cannot be beat with us today and i hope we can get him on in the future the skyper in studio but dr musgrave thank you so much for coming on the broadcast with us how you welcome sir and my biggest accomplishment is standing right here to talk to you and that's my daughter uh little story musgrave hi alex hi how you doing good and she's nine years old

and uh i'm gonna i'm gonna let her go now she's gonna go back to the tractors so she drives tractors she's got her own atv and she drives 360 motors and she does that kind of stuff she's getting the same kind of raising that i did so she'll be she'll be ready for the rocker world when the time comes bye bye sweetie bye okay you weren't expecting that were you no but it's awesome listen i've done my little intro uh obviously the audience wants to know what do you know about the info war and the broadcast we're flattered that you're a listener sir yes oh god what do i know i'm not sure what i know i just been to your site and stuff that's all well it's good to have you on the broadcast i haven't heard the program so is she are you mostly an austin audience

sure you were telling me you've seen some of the videos online and stuff but i was just curious about i'm john i mean i'm just flattered that you reached out to us we're honored to have so that's that is fucking great that is awesome oh my god every part of that is gold it's so sweet that he has obviously his granddaughter even great granddaughter who knows but like uh that's all that's just adorable i'm raising her the way she'll be ready for that and that's every part of that is awesome like i'm not not let anything other than like this girl is fucking destined for great things amazing she's a musk rain yeah raising her right doing the whole thing it's it's beautiful it's beautiful all right now we want to get back to and then just i love the so what do you know

about the info war yeah well i've been to your site uh that's about it never really watched or listened to the show so is it just is it just austin this is an awesome thing that's where alex so fucking that's where alex turned yeah that's where he's like shit because he'd been spinning it as this guy contacted us he's gonna teach us the he's a whistleblower or something and the reality is i bet that he was in austin and uh he contacted them to be like oh go on a tv show yeah i'll go in there i'll say i'll tell him a little bit about space i'll educate these people that sounds awesome yep but it is not what alex wanted no and god that's too good the like i wish we were a video show just so people could see the look in his face when story musgrave asks

are you in austin based are you is your audience mostly in austin that is like alex has his balls cut off in that moment just because he knows that he's getting emasculated in front of his own audience to all right i'm gonna give musgrave a point on give him three points i'll give him three he's got he's gonna win the he's gonna have to win this one yeah uh so you know there's not much else about trump in the eleventh uh on the eleventh but man that musgrave shit beautiful the best laid plans i could listen to that all day yeah yeah and he is as adorable so are you are you mainly an austin based show and get this he asks him again yes of course he does we're world wide sir we're world uh so but i mean he's adorable throughout the entire interview of course he's

awesome yeah he seems like an awesome dude yeah that is i what well first off when you say alex jones says he has a huge astronaut on the show first thing i think is it's going to be a fat guy i don't know why that happened that happened right second thing i think is this guy was like a janitor at nasa like that kind of thing he's just like wandering around thinking like he saw goodwill hunting and he's like that's probably me you got an astronaut you got to try and war game his lie yeah exactly i got to figure out what angle this is going to go at angle instead it's a purely awesome astronaut who's accomplished more than alex jones could ever dream of and uh like the angle of alex is lying

about building up the interview but it's a super legit dude yeah like that is not what you would ever expect no and also i i i actually wish i had more clips of it because it would be a really interesting case study into how terrible an interviewer alex is yeah like in the same way that dr group comes in and says my mom was shot in the head six times at point blank range of a rifle and she survived alex doesn't have a follow-up like what hold on now that's not yeah he doesn't want to get to the details in the same way you can see him being really frustrated that story musgrave doesn't want to give him any globalist talk he wants to just talk about how great nasa is and how important uh it's more of a psa but you could get a lot of

really interesting stories out of him if you're a decent interviewer of course alex just isn't there to play games oh man all oh that's so disappointing it is that would have been such a beautiful spot on the info war show of just like just nothing but racism and hatred and globalists and all of this shit and then for one brief shining moment it's the promise of space sure beautiful could be but problem with space only four dimensions yeah well i mean it's the same thing with when uh just the other day in 2017 he had antonio sabato jr on as a guest uh and he didn't ask him once about earth two amazing that would be that should be all he talks about that's the whole thing yeah that's the breakaway civilization oh earth two oh boy yeah they're

gonna run into tim curry up there it's weird weird love earth two watch that shit as a kid had a huge crush on tru danziger just a little 10 year old kid on that show i was tired when i was watching all right i had a huge crush on it all right dad hit a huge let this one go pippy long stopping all this one back the platonic crush negative two points my friend that means story musgrave is the winner for today look this girl true here's still going well here's the thing it's actually really fucked up okay so i had this like childish crush on the girl on earth two right and i i had these like sort of fantasies of us being friends and running around earth two together and discovering stuff you know as you do as a 10 year old child that's the sort of that's the

version of a crush you have right in the same way like i wanted to get into high jinks with pippy long stocking of course so that's a very normal thing to want i think so she was fun so when i when i got older i think i was in college i i remembered earth two and i went back and watched it and it's you know it's kind of jarring to have this memory of a childish crush and then go back as an older person and see the child right and be like oh well so i was like i wonder what she's up to now i wonder what she you know if she's attractive so you looked her up on facebook i didn't look up on facebook i looked her up on wikipedia and it turned out she died at 24 no of uh of bad things heart defect oh yep she had given up acting to become a teacher uh and then

just had a bum heart and died and it was one of the biggest bummers ever that is a super bummer thanks for giving me another negative thanks for sharing that jesus christ dude glad i shoehorn yeah no kid this podcast would be nothing without that story if you want to find more sad stories about my life you can go to knowledge fight dot com right guarantee actually there's no stories about my life on there just sad facts about alex jones also you can follow us on twitter if you'd like at knowledge underscore fight correct it's up on itunes leave a review people like that and so does itunes and that means more people get to see i have not actually posted anything on it yet but we are on facebook but we're there we have some

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soon i don't want to tell tales out of school but uh there's a little podcast called that's what they want you to think that might be coming back uh oh so look for that in the future uh oh yeah if you don't know what i'm talking about i don't care that's a weirdly aggressive way to end this i'm trying to be mysterious okay uh anyway guys thanks for listening we do appreciate it very much unfortunately my childhood crush from earth two is no longer with us still going back to it well let's say you know she's uh she's no longer with us and there is good news there is good news dan please brighten my day let me tell you the good news what's that rapaport still lives thank god andy and kansas you're on the air thanks for holding

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