Knowledge Fight - #57: August 12-16, 2015

Episode Date: June 25, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan about the sixth installment in his investigation into what happened in 2015 to get Alex Jones on board with the Trump campaign. Today's findings are explosive, and topics covered include: Was Margaret Sanger a racist? How does Alex respond to a literal white supremacist caller? Does BrainForce seem like "a good buzz?" Should China adopt a "candy-based" currency?

Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding So Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple of dudes You like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Emmerich Jones That is the plan today. You have brought us Phil Burt's old-time quality lime Well, here's the thing which the rhyming aspect Perfection well, that's a big part of why this was my choice And then secondarily it's a it's a green

It's a clear bottle of nothing but green a neon green coming out of it. Oh, yeah, it looks like the ooze. Yeah Yeah, here's the thing the other day. I TM and to Mnt2 I woke up in a cold sweat at about three in the morning the other day and the one thought that was wow is that bad That sucks. That is the worst thing I've ever taken that really invalidates the story. I was in the middle of I Have not tasted this but I realized like lime is a great flavor I was laying awake in bed like man lime underutilized. Let me see if I agree with you Why would you think it's underutilized?

That's not bad you're so wrong. It's not bad. I expected it to be a lot stronger Based on your response. Anyway, speaking of strong We have some strong opinions about Alex Jones and we will get to them here in a moment But first I would like to start the show with an out-of-context drop from Alex Jones. I got me a rock and roll band It's a free-for-all. I got me a radio show TV show with 20 million listeners and viewers a week That's of course as a reference to Ted Nugent song free-for-all. Oh, yeah That's just a nice example of how like what we're missing out on is like his his singing in and out of breaks It's fucking astounding. This one was in the middle of the show. So they kept it in

But so today Jordan what we're gonna be doing is we're gonna be going over part six of my investigation into what happened to Alex Jones in 2015 to get him on board with team Trump right today. There will be massive revelations. Oh Today there will also be incredibly fucked up stuff that happens. Okay, but before I assumed they would go hand in hand Yeah, but before we get to all that I'd like to give a shout out to our note new donator We got another person named chase who donates. So we're big on chases and like to give a shout out to you number one Rated podcast amongst chases. Yep, and we like to thank you for joining up. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you chase Thank you very much chase. You speculated that it may be chase bank backing us

And I want to I want to dispel any of these spurious rumors that we have taken up sponsorship with the globalist-controlled banks Alex Jones That's a good point. He hears about is he like there's a lot of people who name chase who donate to the show obviously that would be Such a quick thing that he would probably pull off. Obviously. It's segmented donations from chase bank that don't amount to $10. Oh, yeah. Yeah, all right Good call Alex in my head So today Jordan will be going over the time span of August 12th to August 16th in 2015 okay, and It's a wide-ranging period. There's a whole lot of stuff that goes on

there's There's there's really no good way for me to distill a Synthesis of the events that we are about to discuss But I will I will say that we start to see Some what trends that alarm me a little bit. Okay, and this first clip is is part and parcel of that There is a marked rise in his tomigotchi sales. Yep. That's a difficult trend. You started you started pimping tomigotchi That would be fucking great tomigotchi lives matter All these people want to turn off their tomigotchi's

Globalists want you to do that because a divide and conquer strategy. Of course. No He's starting to say a lot of positive things about repressive regimes. Oh, no, that's no good There is a bit of really pro-Putin sentiment that's starting to come through And also this first clip he wants to complain about Jeb Bush and in doing so White washes and completely tweaks the history of the Syrian civil war into a very pro-Assad That but that's not that's not a thing you can have but can't have a pro-Assad viewpoint But here it is he can get up there when we've ganged up on Assad and his people and the Christians and the non-radical Muslims

For five years and killed 300,000 of them and their tiny military With russian backing has been valiantly fighting the entire Saudi arabian jihad No And now the answer is to bomb the syrian army So he's saying essentially what he does end up saying about putin in a later date Uh, basically that he did nothing wrong. He's not doing anything wrong

What about all those people that he gassed? Uh, no fake news. What about all those people that he murdered fake news What about all the ones that he tortured for speaking out against him fake news? What about those people that he tortured and then murdered after fake news? Okay, what about that was all ices. What about his cars? He has a lot of cars. That's not fake news. There we go Now I like him Yeah, he's got a he's got a hellcat. It's very americana the the whole the whole thing in syria is such a fucked up Future revelation revelation of climate change. Like that's the whole situation. A lot of it is about displacement That's what it that's what is that's why I hate it whenever people are like

Oh, the worst effects of climate change will come in 100 years and it's like no The fact that people are going to move means shit is going to happen Yeah, just look at how refugees work now like syrian children are just just need somewhere to go somewhere To be to where they can survive where they won't be murdered by their own government and our government is like fuck you Child and you might be a terrorist you girl you very small well, but see that's why you are a dumb libertard cuck It's not actually a small girl. It's an adult man with a giant beard who has a passport that says he's a little girl

Okay If we're willing to entertain that possibility Well, alex certainly is How about my counter possibility? That's actually two very small syrian girls wearing the suit of a large man Sure, it's a trench coat in order to make sure that they can get you know, you got to blend in With the people who are trying to kill you Yeah, and if you're a kid no one like at the country you're going to as a refugee is going to give you any credibility

No agency, you know, you got to get in that trench coat on your friend's shoulders and put on a fake beard And now you're an adult everyone respects you and then you go see in our rated movie. Everybody knows this everybody knows This is the progression. I mean we're joking around but like alex's Misinterpretation of what is happening in syria back in 2015 is is calamitous. It's it's it's a it's a It's a literal genocide and he's super willing to side with Assad I can't understand like now now I understand I understand the people in our government who side with Assad because they love money Yeah, I don't understand alex because he's not getting paid. You know, he hates people

That's kind of where he's at that's probably right He has you know how we've documented a pretty serious trend of trump seeming to really admire dictators And hating uh cooperative bodies. Yeah, that's kind of very similar with alex It seems like he he has respect for men You know people who are like strong men Like I mean he's talked about like duterte in the in the philippines Oh the guy who also murders his own people en masse with no justification and declared open season on his soldiers raping women Yeah, uh in hostile territory. Hey say what you want. He gets shit done

Right. So I mean he has these trends that you obviously see in him and I think that I'm not gonna say that that doesn't play a small part in why he ends up eventually liking trump But we're starting to see more of it in this august stretch So uh these dudes are gross he he also has that fundamental misunderstanding or a willful misunderstanding That uh all of the people who are fighting against Assad are isis And that al-qaeda is the same thing as isis Well, that's crazy because al-qaeda is fighting isis With the syrian rebels who are also fighting isis

Who are also fighting the syrian government the people who are screwed the most in syria are the people who are like Please stop killing us Yeah, those are the people who got fucked over. Yeah And because of xenophobia and because of unwillingness to wrestle with the the nuances and complexities of it We seem to have a position that deems all of those people who are getting screwed as You're probably a bad guy. Yeah, and that's that's really bad Well, and it's also propaganda on I would say the part of our Our operatives who want to push the narrative that uh, you know, there's no such thing as

peaceful, uh, you know There's no like the syrian rebels didn't want or don't want some kind of uh, Theocracy they want a modern civilization Yeah, the one that they were not just not getting but they were starving to death And all they tried to do is modernize this and become a free Fair society one that doesn't have a fucking king. Yeah, and so we should be on their side, right? That's america's story Fuck kings. Yeah, it's it's sort of in our bloodline. That's that's our that's our thing man And like Assad's been in power for a pretty long time and his dad was in power before him

Yeah, it's it's not like It's not good. Why is it why we need to look if we're gonna do 1776 2.0 2.0 Here's what we do. Okay, we go all in on killing kings. No more kings. Hmm. That's that's your 1776 2.0 We're not declaring. We're not declaring uh independence for us. We're declaring independence for the world See but like in the movie independence day, Alex would love that lip service But his response would be that like the kings are just the face man Uh, and then there's you know globalist bankers behind the scenes. You know what I'm fine with that Fine with that. Let's just still get rid of them

But if you kill the kings the globalist bankers will just install new people who will be a problem Well, let's get rid of those kings How is the problem not the king part? Well, it's I don't know. I don't see here's. I don't care who the king is. Here's the problem the king part We're 10 minutes into this episode and we've already spun backwards into are we are we do are we recording? Oh, yeah So this next clip Alex Jones shows uh that his instinct and uh his is his providence and his discernment are as sharp as ever He's back on his uh, he's back on his bullshit as they would say online

And he's into the collapse narrative that goes through the next couple days And this uh, this prediction is pretty specific and did not come to pass 12 signs that an imminent global financial crash has come even more likely The story about michael schneider is excellent. It's up on info wars.com Did you see what just happened? I'm going to cover this in detail, but let's get into it right now The devaluation of the yon by china triggered the largest one-day drop of the currency in modern era this caused other global currencies to Crash relative to the u.s. Dollar the price of oil hit a six-year low and stock markets all over the world

were rattled The dow fell two hundred twelve points on tuesday and apple stock plummeted another five percent as we hurdle towards the absolutely critical months of september and october Yeah, if it's an organized orchestrated collapse, it'll be in october so they could fear monger get things fixed get up Get a power grab package and a bailout package by november and then still have a christmas But if it crashes in november you gotta still have a christmas You gotta still have a christmas. I don't think it's rigged then and boy could go all the way But don't worry the elites are headed to their bunkers right now

But we should fear monger if we're lucky and can stop this or slow it down or have a smooth landing But i don't really where was the global crisis alex you only predicted it would come and it came but it wasn't that bad Don't you people sound like idiots now And I wish I wasn't right congratulations. You're not right The global collapse did not come in october nor december of 2015 positive. All right fake news fake news So the the thing that's crazy there is would you point it out that the globalist would be concerned with still having a christmas Gotta have a christmas which what like what are they heartless? They're other yes

They want 95 of the world population to die But everybody celebrates the birthday of our lord and savior jesus christ alex would tell you that the globalists have a war on christmas Yes, so why would they be concerned with when they pull the trigger on this global all wait because they've got to make all the money Out of a christmas there you go But if they have a global collapse alex's narrative is that they Have a field day on making money. They would make way more than they make it jc pennies for christmas sales. Um, yeah It's stupid I I find it I find it super weird to listen to him read off real numbers like well, but that's also

The dow dropped 212 points and you're like why you're alex jones? Don't do that But that's also real numbers as reported and contextualized by an article on info wars.com Oh So they might be skewed or massaged a little bit Well, the but my point is they're they're just like stock numbers like yeah Dow's down to the uon is down relative to the dollar and he like dude you're alex jones Spice it up a little facts are weird. Yeah. Yeah, this is creeping me out The other thing though that I want to do on is all made of candy now

China has changed its policy on one child to be one uon per child Now I respect that they're putting the uon on a candy base scale because at least it is a commodity driven currency This is not a fiat currency because it's based on candy. It's a finite resource We got to get off the gold standard and the paper standard and right back on to the willy wonka standard Let's get off the gold standard and get on those little chocolate coin standard And then we'll all have a happy christmas indeed So the other thing that's really fucked up is that like he really laid out in that last clip one of the games He plays that is really it's airtight. It's basically a schizophrenic game

And that is that like everyone's making fun of me now and then when it's not so bad later because we've exposed this thing Because of the work that the patriots have done thanks to me getting the word out when it's not bad Everyone will make fun of how I made a big deal out of it before I'm a secret hero all the time every single time that I've complained about something and it doesn't happen It's because we have made it not happen right and that's not a fair game to play That is no literal insanity. Yeah, uh, but people buy it his audience buys it. They're like, thank god. Alex is there to expose this stuff yeah, that I mean, that's if that's your if that's your game

there's just there's just never any possibility of communication there, you know like Alex the economy didn't collapse you you predicted it you're welcome Oh, I did that did not occur to me So you're saying that the economy didn't collapse because of you. Yeah Well, you nailed it. How about how about the last time it did collapse though in 2008? Was that you? I had a flu I tried to stop it, but I had to take a me day That is probably what that's probably I was too busy focusing on the globalists other attacks or something like that that would be his

And it's it's perfect. It's fighting an imaginary war. Yeah, I really respect it on one level because it's clearly super profitable And it's airtight, but I I don't respect it in terms of reality um, you'll notice that this is like our investigation in 2015 is specifically about the trump campaign and how he joined up And uh, we we we started a little slow on it He doesn't really get into much trump stuff until a little bit down the line But if you uh have not listened to the last episode to get you up to speed He thinks that trump is a predator and a weasel

And uh, he doesn't like that he works or has casinos because he thinks they're predatory right, but he loves that Trump is anti vaccination and is saying crazy shit And that because he's saying crazy shit It makes it okay for people who he does support like rand paul to say those things publicly right? So that is but he's not as big a fan of rand now because he's no he still is I mean, he's not saying those things. No, no, he wishes he would but he still loves him He still loves him But he would prefer it if rand would say the shit that trump would say it really feels like if I can be

A little bit dramatic It feels like it's a relationship that he has with rand paul That's been going on for a long time and then a new hot kid comes into school You know a new brash showy alpha dude shows up and you know, you love rand paul You guys had a good thing going you philosophically matched up on a lot of stuff But this guy who just showed up at school is getting you wet. I am loving this analogy. His hijinks are getting you fucking wet He's pants and nerds. Uh-huh and like spit balls and what have you he's calling He's calling people racist names and you're like, oh my god. This guy is he is a rebel

So you're just your pussy just gets going you just want him Please do not ever say that word like that ever again. It's the lime soda you that was the grossest thing I've ever heard in my entire life. So you just want this bad boy guy and then pussy You feel yourself being pulled away from rand paul But at the same time you know you love him for that shared history and shared philosophy But you wish he would be more like this bully right and he won't be because that's not him I think that's where alex is which is in august 2015. That's why you're gonna break up in any kind of relationship You can't force the person to be no anything

So you're gonna you're gonna have to fuck the rebel in some ways This stretch of time that we've been in this, you know Trump announced his candidacy on uh, what was it june 16th of 2015? Yes, and now here we are on august 12th these last two months have kind of been a holding pattern A little bit of like, you know, you're gonna fuck me. Yeah kind of thing And it's it's kind of weird. It's it's super weird to to see In my metaphor my metaphor your metaphor was really good. It was really good. I agree with you It was a very good metaphor. So this next clip is gross. It's fine. This is an adult show. It's not a family show

Like I've claimed in the past So this next clip is really weird. Uh, alex jones is sort of uh, rallying the troops letting you know The war is going on whether you know it or not, right? Uh, and then ends with a very classical Uh, right wing smear lie, uh, that we'll deal with on the other side. I wish I wasn't wrong about all of it But we don't make stuff up You know knock on wood And the wood lights on fire. I have never been sued for libel or slander Other people threaten it and then I just had my lawyer's contact me go. Well, here's our evidence and here's our source

So you can sue our source if you want who said another publication or a document But usually we're just going off an admitted document a court case and admission It's not us saying it 95% of what we cover is open source intelligence 5% is my analysis and where I think it's going and that's proven very accurate But it's not hard when you have a historical context And the patriots worldwide people that want stability want decency that are throughout the system. It's not just evil out there acting operating

We've been trying to stop all this so we're like holding the gate back with the enemy trying to come in and you're like You say there's an enemy horde out there and like all the doors are sticking through the wall and people are climbing over the parapet Falling on top people and fireballs are shooting in and You're like, oh you claim there's fireballs and then one flies over and burns their hair. They're like, I don't see any fireballs Is their hair is on fire Say you claim to selling baby parts dead baby plops right beside them. I don't know what you're talking about You claim Margaret Sanger's a noncy. You're the racist Salon said so

We wear pink sweaters and talk with a list that means we're intellectual Margaret Sanger was never involved in anything And christ was not the Messiah this pastor. Hey, he says as well Over right black. That's super weird. That's a really super weird one. Yeah, and uh, I've looked I've done A bit of looking into Margaret Sanger because alex is really mad at her constantly. Yeah Yeah, uh, so the uh, you gave women rights. No The the reality is uh in terms of her racism Stuff all of that is super out of context

Statements that she's made. Uh, there's one very popular Comment, let me see if I can pull up this quote here because yeah, I've heard I've heard the you know who started Planned Parenthood She was racist. She wanted a Segregate or something like that, right? Yeah. Well, they people talk about how she Started Planned Parenthood in black neighborhoods in order to Get rid of black people. Oh, that makes that's one of the big claims that people make And the reality is that the first Planned Parenthood clinic that was opened in 1916 Was in a jewish and italian and irish neighborhood in new york. Well, we want to get rid of them too

Sure, but that's not the argument alex wants to make that's true So the other thing that they talk about is this quote from a letter that she wrote That says we don't want word to go out that we want to exterminate the negro population And the minister is the man who can straighten that out Straighten out that idea if it ever occurs Well, he did not do a very good job. That sounds terrible. No, what it sounds like is her saying Oh, I know what these people are going to say about me now. You're smart That was so that was so easy to pick up on she's like, hey, we don't want people to say this dumb shit

This is the guy who's going to get out in front of that dumb shit And apparently you should have gotten a way better guy. Yeah, and if you take uh, the that Quote from her letter within the context of the letter that is what she's saying Of course it is but it does if you are someone who is violently Anti-abortion and maybe has some latent bigotry in you you hear the words We don't want word to go out that we want to exterminate the negro population And what you hear is we don't want that shit to be public, right? Of course. So, uh, which Again, you got to be more

Precise in your language if you're writing a letter To anyone apparently well most of the time people don't expect their letters to be publicly Uh, blah. So alex also talks about how, uh, she Margaret Sanger I don't know if I kept the clip because he yells about Margaret Sanger like 30 times Within this this stretch of episodes, but one of the things he talks about is how She is responsible with Planned Parenthood. They funded the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute in Nazi Germany All the Nazis. They're just an offshoot of Planned Parenthood. Oh, I that one. I have not heard before. It's a good one

I like that. The reality is that's a good narrative. That's not true the funding The funding stuff that you can find for like the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute came from Like, uh, the Rockefeller Foundation. There were what's the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute? It's a science. It's a the nazi scientific organization Oh, or at least it had its roots in the nazi period. It was founded in 1911. Uh, so there was it did exist before Planned Parenthood first of all and before Kaiser Wilhelm was killed and before nazis Like the national socialist party didn't get going until like a what 1920 Uh, give or take and then it didn't need to turn bad for a little bit longer after that. Um Yeah, I would say I would say it was like the

late 20s and then But the 33 is when we got out of that national socialist workers party probably I think that started around 1920 Okay, I but it didn't form into the party that we know it has Yeah, uh, but the the thing is that it was a scientific institute that ended up Maybe in some some dicey territory later and I'm very much underselling that right because I don't want to get into it But the the the truth is that Planned Parenthood did not have some funding scheme Where in uh, they uh, you know paid the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute to kill minorities or anything like that That's cockamamie because fucking of course not but the what alex is pointing to is that they both had their roots in the eugenics movement

That happened in the late 1800s right and Look, it's fucked up the word eugenics is a really fucked up word Yeah, it has a really negative connotation because of racial eugenics, of course But which as I've already said in the past though, I support it Only because I want to see somebody hit a hundred home runs in one season Sure, so get all the athletes together. Let them fuck and let's figure this shit out. Sure. That's my version of eugenics It's better than doping get them all get them all together Let them fuck and then we'll go from there. That's kind of the olympics. Yeah

Exactly, but they hand out condoms. This is the problem. Yeah, but everyone throws those condoms around like water balloons That's true. Uh, so the the the thing is like I don't have time to do a full book report on eugenics here But uh, a lot of it was bad and a lot of it wasn't bad There we go. Okay. Nazi stuff is the really bad end of eugenics and Planned Parenthood Uh, while it had its roots in some eugenics, uh, it wasn't like get rid of black people eugenics No, it was Let's be deliberative about our reproduction and not from a like government or organizations telling you what to do

But you taking control of your own reproductive choices Yeah, because up till that point women were fucked economically because they couldn't choose. Yeah, it's it's a class thing not a Uh, no, but it is a gender thing too. No, no, that's but that's what that's what i'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. It's a it's a Class structure. Yeah, that's the that's the big and I guess that's the real reason that All of the Planned Parenthood shit is all the propaganda is put out because they want to make sure that Women aren't allowed to be to have agency Well, it really like that's really what be barefoot and pregnant and that's it It threatens the it threatens the economic and social power of men

Uh, when women are equal and when they have their own choices and it makes sense But I fucking strongly disagree the I mean that's it's it's so frustrating whenever Their aim is obvious And their lies are ridiculous. Yeah But the reason that we have Planned Parenthood makes perfect sense to everybody if you just if you if you have no Uh, if you're coming into it with no biases whatsoever and somebody says, okay, well You know, you should be able to control how many kids you have and how many you can handle that way

None of them starve. Yeah, you can take good care of them and they can be raised properly to become Better people than you were. Yeah, and they have the same choices that you do you go? Oh, yeah, that makes perfect sense or I mean even beyond that that's just one angle of it That's just reproductive aspects. You take away all the just or just the health health screenings and std sti stuff now So the other thing that alex gets into which let's take a step back and remember that most of this is coming up Because of those fake videos that were put out by right center for medical progress alex is still tricked by them and angry about it

But the he talks a bunch about how margaret sanger was The like she was deeply involved with the kkk Okay, was she he's throwing a lot of darts around to see if anything nazi kaiser wilhelm institute eugenics kkk Hey, if you're listening take your pick a one you think you're angry about and then you're on board with all of them So margaret sanger spoke to a kkk meeting exactly one time in her life All right, how did it go this is taken from margaret sanger and autobiography which she wrote herself I would hope so which was published in 1938. Otherwise. She is a liar. This was excerpted on politifact Sanger details her work advocating birth control in her autobiography across the united states and emphasizes her willingness to talk to virtually anyone

quote from her autobiography Always to me any aroused group was a good group sanger writes And therefore I accepted an invitation to talk to the women's branch of the ku klux klan at silver lake new jersey One of the weirdest experiences I had in lecturing Sanger's account suggests she did not hold the group in the highest esteem After arriving at the meeting a complicated process that involved driving to a secret location It was time for her to speak quote never before had I looked into a sea of faces like this I was sure that if I uttered one word such as abortion outside the usual vocabulary of these women

They would go off into hysteria and so my address that night had to be in the most elementary of terms as though I was trying to make children understand So she's she's not a big fan of the kkk does not seem like she has very positive Feelings about these women that she went and spoke to once I went to uh give a lecture to the kkk the women's chapter of the kkk to try and educate them about You know just reproductive rights in general health taking care of themselves and then those bitches were stupid and crazy Well, you can that is a Concise summary of her thoughts

So you can even see within that quote the idea of like women going off into hysteria is kind of like Uh paternalistic idea from the time right and she is beholden to those ideas Of course, but she's absolutely not a member of the clan and based on the fact that she hired Black doctors at that time for clinics and stuff like that It really is a strong indication that she was way ahead of the curve in terms of racial understanding Of course she was and then further her whole philosophy was

That having access to abortion Or not even abortion at that time because these clinics weren't doing abortion. Yeah, and they yeah, it wasn't even legal No, but having access to birth control and making your own choices was a way of empowering women It was a way of giving them control and so if that is her premise the idea of giving that to minority communities That's not an attack. That's the absolute Yeah, that the fact that she established clinics in minority neighborhoods Means that she is actively trying to help those communities. Of course. So all this is horseshit. Anyway, that was too long I why

I mean, I know I know why but it's like why Why are you doing this you fucking idiots? It's a good thing How do you not know it's a good thing? But they do they know it's a good thing and that's why they have to put out this propaganda to steal They know we The republicans fucking knew that the affordable care act was a good thing. Clearly because they fucking wrote it So why would you constantly spread all these fucking lies about it? The only reason is just to be fucking evil. Well, no and to keep your job

I guess and to keep women under control and to keep women under control And to like try and like minorities, especially african americans and hispanics Have a long history of voting Democrat, right? Yeah, they have a very liberal swing to the communities as a whole. That's certainly not true of everybody No, but demographically those are blocks that liberals and liberal candidates very much rely on in order to maintain Any representation in government, right? So if republicans are able to sow doubt Among these minority communities that hey secretly they're trying to kill you, right? Secretly they hate you almost as much as we do. Yeah, no, we're up front about how much we don't like you

They secretly hate yeah bullies try and pull that shit on the schoolyards like your friends don't actually like you Yeah, and if they're able to do that then they're able to erode the voting base That's true of the uh broken coalition that the that the democrats rely on and if not Withdraw support make them less likely to vote. Mm-hmm. Yep. Absolutely. Yeah The whole thing is make sure that as few people of color can vote It's it it does at the end boil down to minority and woman disenfranchisement Through sowing seeds of doubt, right? God damn it. They should all kill us. They really should might as well. They really should. Yeah, like

Has anybody thought about that proposal? Like let's just have women and people of color just fucking murder all white men And I bet you guys would do great. Well, I don't like you. I don't like you even suggesting that as uh as a joke Just because of what's gonna end up happening on this episode. Oh, no I feel like is are are we gonna commit white genocide on this episode? Is that what's gonna happen? I feel like you suggesting these things were a dumb dumb to ever to listen to this show and want to attack us They would use that as a like these guys advocate white genocide Yeah, but if they're taking fucking singers quote about hey like these people are gonna try and smear us

Don't let them smear us as see it's evidence that they're smeared Like that kind of thing. There's no win. There's no win on that. That's a fair point All right fair enough It that means that means if you're just combing through everything I've ever said line by line by line You can take something out of context that makes me sound like a fucking lunatic dear lord Yeah, because I am a fucking lunatic like now is not what whoa jordan Be careful with your language now after our after our 600th hour of knowledge fight Whoa, that that white genocide thing that might have gone too far speaking of which we might end up at 604 after this episode

We are not making progress. Oh, no Uh, so this next clip we uh finish up the matters at hand for august 12th In this clip alex is talking about how severe the situation is and how the globalists really want to take out people like him And also want to take out people like this other guy named He's a representative. I can't remember his first name. He's also a representative jones And he apparently has the 28 pages from the 9 11 report that proved that saudi arabia was behind it Yeah, and 9 11 was an inside job with criminal forces in our government that alex

sells uh, and then also he wants to get john bainer out of the Chair position he wants to get him out god We all a man imagine going back to those times when getting john bainer out was our big problem But I also think that alex probably could sort of read the tea leaves as it were and see that john bainer was about done He was fucked and so he started this movement where he has uh this guy on his show He has representative jones on his show and they talk about how we got to get bainer out of there To sort of set the groundwork for a victory that they already know is going to happen with or without any action on their part I gotcha

So he comes on and he talks about how they are going to fucking kill this guy Because he's coming out and saying all this shit and it relates to alex and then he exaggerates To the nth degree. It's lunacy. The point is you need to just know there is a fight going on And we got the folks here like walter jones Who's exposing the saudi's quarterback 9 11 with criminals inside the government and there was a stand down order Do you realize how dangerous that is? I'll guarantee you they've sat around and talked about blowing his plane up When he's on an aircraft I guarantee it

Killing him has been discussed killing rand paul has been discussed killing me has been discussed Killing matt drudge has been discussed killing joseph fair has been discussed you better believe in these criminal councils And why they haven't done it is they know it'll blow up in their face if they do it, but they may get so cornered A nuke goes off in a major city and then it's just a footnote a bunch of people at heart attacks or died or not hit by cars That's how this works and let me tell you the week Carrying the coal mine Katie bar the door there's a full-on depression war with the russians war with the chinese if they go that far folks

They're going all out So alex suggests that in order to kill him and matt drudge So hold on they will drop a nuke on a us city in order to disguise their murder of alex jones This is possibly delusions of grantor right now. That is that is the biggest You know you you've seen the movies where they're like, oh the the building went up in a fire But there was one guy who was killed by a bullet. Uh-huh interesting interesting cover up This is like a nuclear fucking bomb. This is like a nuclear palm Storyline of colombo. Yeah

This is ridiculous Mr. President one more thing one more thing One more thing mr. President alex jones and strickline in his body, but it says he was killed by a nuke That's crazy. Who's gonna be doing the autopsies of the nuclear radiated corpses insane I think we would just let that be in another city. That's not fair. You know, you'd be in another city Oh, it would be a distraction. Yeah, I thought it was gonna be like they murder him Then drop the nuclear bomb on it to cover it up. Chicago is nuked and meanwhile in austin alex alex's kicks the bucket

Gotcha. Okay. Now. I get it. That's stupid. That is super stupid But also I've started to notice he keeps saying katie bar the door Yeah, and that's another like fill your hand kind of like what the fuck is he saying? Oh, you you've never heard that one before I Only from alex, okay, and I know From context that it means I've been hearing that since I was knee-high to a junebug. Oh, boy Never heard that one either. Uh, but I know that it means troubles brewing. You know, I get that I get I get from context clues But I looked it up. It's a really obscure scottish thing. Mm-hmm. I didn't know that I've never heard that

alex says it all the time He's welsh. It's fun. It has a good ring to it. It's got a good rhythm katie bar the door It sounds hillbilly. It sounds hillbilly is katie bar the door. Well, look the scots We know who we are. We're hill people We're literally hill scottish. I am scotch irish. Okay, so that's the only reason you know it. I well, I mean Yeah, sound off on facebook our new facebook page if you have ever heard katie bar the door Give genealogy and your understanding of colloquialism. Yes Those two things are important for us to gauge

Uh, so also on the august 12th show, uh, alex does one of his patented segments with Anthony Gucciardi where they sit around and talk about how great their pills are and uh, how'd it go? Are they great? Yeah, pretty good. Still great. Pretty good. So then we move on to august man That'd be fun if they just had one where he's like guys. I fucked up Don't take this one pill. I gave you. I thought it was I thought it was good. Look at this fucking rash This is brutal. We're going to get to a really weird testimonial about his pills In a little bit weird weirder than rob do's wife. Yeah. Yeah, we're there But we got to start uh august 13th here and alex jones has some really weird stuff to say about presidential hopefuls

Now most of his his uh the way he starts the show is by talking about how Jeb bush is one of the big copos of the drug running organizations and uh, he He's he's a drug lord. Basically. He's a drug lord. Yeah, okay. It's always the quiet ones I haven't heard that one before please clap for all this cocaine. I'm bringing into the country. Yes. Yeah So alex is uh, I think he might be a little bit off base on that but not we're not here to defend uh, jeb bush But don't give a fuck alex goes on to say some other interesting things about other hopefuls And if we ever push it out in the open that plan parenthood created the nazis created them Nope, if we ever push it out in the open that they funded the keiserville home institute and created nazism

Before hitler ever showed up. Nope It took over the national socialist workers party If we're ever able to push out the organ harvesting of babies then every other domino will fall and now major political republican candidate dr. Ben Carson, and I think would make a great president by the way I mean that would be a real black president right there a patriot a christian a brain surgeon a smart guy with a libertarian bent He's come out on the news and said Planned parenthood are the klan are the nazis are the enemy and picked up our push with Uh, dr. Childress and others to say all lives matter and all black lives matter

Because they obsessed over, you know, maybe a hundred blacks shot a year in questionable circumstances Like it's the end of the world but george sorrell is funding it While we've got millions of blacks up here getting chopped up inside the womb And it's part of the nazi operation. So that's that's fascinating just using uh, does he know what an abortion is? Chopping them up in the womb Getting them getting chopped up in the womb chop it up So does he here's what I think he sees when he you say abortion to him. Yeah, uh, uh Egg scrambler. Yep, totally right up in the v. Yep

Swin it around Pull it right back out. You got little chunks of baby right there And then you sell it and then you sell it. I think that's probably fairly I got a baby purée Also, the the the fucking nonsense is if you really really hate abortion, then you really really philosophically need to support Contraception and you need to support the morning after pill and if you don't then you're no can't do that Then you it's not about abortions. It's about something else. It's never been about abortions, right? It's about women being punished for having sex, right? So, uh, the other thing is dr. Ben Carson is not a good candidate. No

He's a terrible candidate for the job. He's doing now. He's apparently a good brain surgeon Yeah, that's what that's what I've been led to understand. I've never done any research into it, but that's what I've heard I mean, he's still I don't know. Sure. He never got fired. He's not He's not classically qualified blood He's not classically qualified to be in charge of HUD. Certainly. He's not qualified. Don't there's no Classically to it. I'm trying to be fair. He's not qualified to do anything. He's certainly not qualified to teach about The antiquity. Oh ancient history. Nope. Uh grain grain silos as pyramids and what have you?

Yeah, I don't want that in our government. It's it's dubious. So that's not he's not Also, if alex jones says there's a real black president right there That's code. That's the first thing that I've ever heard where I'm like No, run ben run. They're gonna get you You don't want that. You don't want that. You don't want that moniker. You don't want that legacy That's gonna be you're going to be used as a racist trope. Oh, exactly Uh, you're going to be used as a prop to attack brock obama. There's like some sort of Book. Oh can't remember what it's called

Oh, I get you. Oh boy. Yeah So it's interesting to me though that We've got a situation where he's super into rand paul He's indicated that he trusts ted cruise 95 percent and now he's saying ben Carson would be a great president It's convoluted. His beliefs are he claims. He's not a republican. Meanwhile. He's fine with The libertarianist of them all in rand paul Republican ted cruise a wacky christian conservative asshole crazy ben Carson a lunatic a complete republican lunatic And the thing that combines all of them is

severe distrust of Planned parenthood and all liberal ideas That's it. I mean, he's not really even he's second amendment. Yeah, second amendment I guess they all they all are into guns, but it's not like I think that alex jones One of the things that i'm starting to realize is that he doesn't define himself as a positively uh His beliefs aren't positive obligations. They're negative obligations. They're he's against things as opposed to being four things

Well, exactly. Well, that's the entire he's not the entire right wing now He's not even four guns as much as he is against you taking them. Yeah. No, exactly. Well, what is like That's what they have been that's what the GOP in response to obama has been for eight years And at this point seven years, right? So they immediately got rid of any idea of well as as what what fuckface said mcconnell It's our job to make sure that he doesn't get anything He's has to our only job is to make sure he's a one-term president Not govern the country not represent your people. No, but just delay

distract Avoid deny do all of this stuff. So now all they have left is we're against stuff There's no like and that and that's why in 2017 They're putting so much of their capital on being against obama care, right as opposed to creating something productive Yeah, well, what is what is the ahca? but Cutting out all the good parts of obama care and leaving obama care and taking money exactly that's all it is It's just taking money reverse, uh, peter panshee and it's it's not something new

It's not helping anybody. It's not a positive thing. It's not like you're introducing the ahca You're just taking obama care Cutting out all of its insides Pulling them out and then drinking the blood for yourself and using rhetoric about why you're doing it with vague suggestions of freedom Yeah, and that sort of stuff or even saying that you're gonna, you know, we're gonna make things better Like is there any is there any positive legislation? That the gop wants anything like I I don't know here's what we want to make Here's something that we want to do as opposed to here's all the stuff that we want

That we don't want you to do i'm sure that there are if you get down to some lower levels I bet there are you think so maybe in state legislatures and stuff like that. I'm sure I hope not because if it's anything like kansas, they're gonna all go to fucking shit anyways Well, I have a really hard time I mean it it's hard to get away from this feeling but I don't fully accept it that the idea that there is no Like moderate republicans anymore. I'm not saying that no, but I think a lot of people are And I think that they're I think that it appears that way certainly on a national scale, right? But i'm positive that there are within

Within states within local bodies and stuff like that. I think it's where we get into trouble the trouble there is is Very simple To me It is the same thing with police. I know there are a lot of good police. Yeah, but If you are fine with the bad police murdering people I don't really think you're good. That's true. So that's the thing about moderate republicans. Yeah Look, I get it. You don't think you're racist and maybe you're not you think that it's all about taxes But you're fine with those fucks right over there. So go fuck yourself. Yeah, there's no there's no like

Oh, you get a you get a different star. Yeah, you know, it's either you are Going to break away from those idiots and say no, they're not republicans. They're not conservatives. They're just fucking racist Being part of a group does not preclude preclude your responsibilities as a person. Exactly. I think that's what it comes down to Yeah, uh, so we know now About these people who are running for president that Alex supports loves them, but we haven't heard any any news any updates on trump Luckily, alex has something to say on this august 13th episode and we had ran paul just three months ago the frontrunner He'd been the frontrunner for a year

Now in the middle of the pack Because of the donald trump Extravaganza So here's all i'm saying. I think most of what trump sands dead on. I like the fact he's aggressive. He doesn't apologize. That's refreshing big dick He's confident and he has knowledge Blew me one make no mistake if he wanted to he could win the presidency And he knows tactics and techniques of free market and cutting taxes that would reverse this country's nose dive and pull the world out of a depression Ah

But the very globalist that he's worked with his whole life don't want that They want to bring down national sovereignty in the middle class And the single family home and all the rest of it under the global treaty agenda 21 That is the plan standardized from germany agenda 21 to australia to the united states From south africa by my sensible globalist clothing to chile All these countries are basically under the same system and so I don't see donald trump delivering on that. I hope he does. I'm giving him benefit of the doubt And there are people that get violently angry if I don't denounce donald trump

There are people that get viciously angry if I don't fall down on his feet and worship him as a second coming of blsbub All I know is I smell a big stinking rat That's not all right. So trump is wait trump is a rat. Yeah Okay, so he's giving trump the benefit of the doubt, but he smells a big stinking rat. Yeah, okay, which is so we're still on We're still right there on that. I love all the stuff. He's saying he's crazy huge dick. I love how he hates vaccines He's nuts, but I like it. He's got a big ass. I love to slap it like but Alex is a I don't think he really believes this shit Alex is a fake smart version of those people who we all knew and maybe I was guilty of this for a very short period of time

Why I was like, hey, man It would be fucking crazy if you want Yeah, like it would be like we'd have chocolate sundae days as a holiday or whatever, you know You're filling the blank whatever lunacy would happen. Like it's kind of like we would be a circus, right? I think that alex is kind of it's kind of come true. We are very much a circus But it's like the dark circus. It's the juggalos. It's the juggalos dark carnival Actually, I'll be much more comfortable with that. I would be too whoop whoop to my brothers out there in my juggalettes seems like, uh, you know

What what are their names the shaggy too dope and violent jay? Yeah. Yeah. Let's let them both be president Sure co-presidents. Hey secretary of state blaze you dead homie Oh shit miracles the entire supreme court is just uh, what god damn it. I can't remember any I I I've never gone down the juggalotus Oh boy Never gone down that juggalo rabbit. Oh, you've never watched like their commercials for the gathering Of course not. They're amazing. They're so good. I just don't need that in my life I've been trying to get press passes to go to the gathering for like three years probably but I always fuck it up

Anyway, I'd love to go If any of you want to go get me press passes to go to the gathering I'm in knowledge fight needs to cover the uh, oh man if alex jones goes to the gathering They would they would eat him they would need that'd be funny juggalos. I think are too smart for alex quite frankly Okay, I think there's probably an overlap in audience But I I don't think it would be massive gotcha because I think he would also hate them. Yeah No, no, that would that would certainly be true. I think he probably thinks they're a gang I think he probably thinks they're getting into some kind of satanic cult worshiping kind of thing

And that's an easy opinion to have right but as we uh, as we uh showed there and it was we've discovered Yep, his position hasn't really changed. Mm-hmm. Still thinks he's untrustworthy and I don't know here's in this next clip alex gets into his feelings about the russians Okay, I laid it out a little bit at the top of the show, but here's uh, here's where he's at with them Here's some of the news up on info wars dot com not news state department establishes propaganda training program in lithuania To combat russian media as they prepare to start a couple color revolution there And they're trying to launch a color revolution inside russia talk about stirring up the russians I mean, this is this is what obama's doing and of course if the russians were communist or evil or doing something to america

I'd say go ahead and do that. Okay, russia's not doing anything right? We're good soros over through ukraine a year and a half ago And it's starting a proxy war. He's trying to start a race war here in america. I mean these people are like Legion of doom villains from a cartoon or something That's a bad way to look at the world. That's a very bad way to look at the world Especially when you're in the legion of doom See he believes that like all of it is just george soros launching color revolutions around the world What does he mean by color revolution like the arab spring the purple rebellion the orange revolution Oh, oh, so just revolution that have colors attached to them. Well, what color would your favorite revolution be green

This lime soda is a revolution. Love it. It's so tasty. It is revolting in my mouth It's not bad lime is a great flavor. I'm glad I had that moment Where I couldn't sleep. I thought about lime. Who are you justifying this to me to you mostly myself This is to you, right? Um, so He says in there while you were yelling he says russia did nothing wrong Yeah, russia did do a lot of wrong stuff a lot of wrong. If you even They're continuing to do a lot of wrong. Crimea had already happened at this point. Yeah, it's not like It's not like that's in the future from this

Now granted a lot of the stuff about the hacking and a lot of the stuff about the interfering in our election Wasn't really publicly known at this point. Uh, they had just started their campaign apparently Like the fbi has said that it started in the summer of 2015 So there wasn't a lot to go on there. I'll give alex credit for not knowing about that Right, but yeah in hindsight if you look at that quote is like they haven't done anything to us. Well now they have yeah, so What where are we at? I don't I don't know. I think the way that we The way that we talked about it, uh on a few episodes ago was

They know that something happened They're just trying to figure out the best way to handle this so we don't have to fight a world war, right? Right, you're talking about in current day. Yeah in current day So it's hard to see what's happening now with like the more and more information coming out very very slowly It's like shit I think they're in a fight a war Well, the information that's been coming out is really really strong indications that Putin was personally involved Oh, yeah, and we're seeing evidence starting to come out

That that pretty strong indications that voter rolls were at least tampered with yep, which could have Disenfranchised tons of voters made them ineligible to vote cancelled out their votes Uh, there's a lot of strong indications Some people are saying 23 states some are saying 17 some are saying all 50 states. Yeah, we're hacked in that way Yeah, which is at very least it was like 20 something. Yeah, which is very much like Oh, that's that's a war. That's an act of war. That's a literal act of war And I mean it's like the stuff that we've done to people. Well, yeah, I mean there is that to unpack Yeah, that that's too difficult and I don't I'm not charmed by the argument. Hey, it's okay

They did it to us because we do it to people. I didn't say that was a no No, no, no But I think a lot of people feel that way and I think it's a cogent position to have That it's very serious that they did it to us and we should stop doing it to other people I think we can do both. Yeah, I think let's be better than the russian right I think that those are two positions that are compatible these sorts of things Are very very very serious and if alex jones You know in 2015 is saying they're not doing anything to us. So we shouldn't be mad

We now are starting to see that there's pretty good evidence that they did do something to us He should be mad. Well in the craziest. They like did you read the the Washington post obama article it did the one the one thing that Boggled my mind is it's coming off like because the headline basically suggests like oh, obama didn't do enough and he's gonna regret that And then you dig into it And it's like every time he went to any GOP leader any of them from a state legislature from anywhere Didn't want to talk to him at all. No because they had eight years of we hate you built up in them Yeah, so anything that he any alarm he's trying to sound is not going to be listened to yep

So so yeah, and you could you could take that as like that You know is that evidence uh of collusion among some people but your your reaction to it is way better Which is just these guys hated obama so much They were willing to let the country explode But I think there's it could be a mixed bag I mean it's certainly possible that both of those things are slightly true. Yeah differing degrees Uh, but then I mean even what alex is literally talking about in this case is Setting up outposts to fight russian propaganda. Yeah, because russians

Whether they are our big bad guy or not there's arguments you could see on both sides at least until you know At the stage of 2015 right they are notorious for propaganda. It's kind of they're really good at it since the cold war That's been a really big piece of their warfare tactics. Oh, yeah, and not just that because they had to they're way good at it They've been good at it since the beginning. They're amazing. They're so good at it And uh, so I don't really see anything too evil or nefarious But the idea of setting up an outpost in lithuania where we try and work against The insidious influence and uh destabilizing influence of russia I mean in that regard he could just be like, oh the government's setting up this outpost in

Dan Friesen's house for this anti propaganda show called knowledge fight. That's an act of war He probably would think that exactly. Yeah, that's what it is. It's just it's just hey they're lying Let's train people how to know when they're being lied to yeah Well, but then you know if you're boy, is it anti or is it propaganda in the opposite direction? That's the thing is it's there is a fine line between telling the truth and we live in such a fucked up time period Or everybody lies all the time. Yeah that it becomes this thing where if you're really just trying to poke holes in propaganda The other side is just gonna be like you're the propaganda. Yeah, it's just it's exactly what happened with the fake news idea

Right. It's like the fake news is supposed to be about lies and propaganda And then the fake news turned it into about everything. No, you're the fake news Exactly because I found one instance of you saying president bush. Yeah, we we live on a playground We live on the global playground where everybody's just like you're ugly. No, you're ugly And I mean that's the that's the idea That I had during the ramp up to the election that just scared the shit out of me in the primaries even That was there are no adults Right. This isn't going like you always kind of get the sense growing up that like

When you're a kid you like the adults will straighten this out Yeah, and I think that a lot of people had the idea during the primaries that Uh, the adults will figure this out. You know, it's crazy now, but someone's gonna step in and be like this isn't gonna work Yeah, you can't you can't do this. Trump. You're having fun. That's stop. We're all we're I'm still kind of there where it's like Okay, miller he's gonna just step in and then he's gonna be like guys. We fucked up We're gonna put him in jail and we'll do this all over again. Like but no, everybody's fucking insane Well, the I the I think it's a self-defense mechanism in some ways because the idea that help isn't coming is incredibly scary But the once you make sense of the fact that help isn't coming

You can become the help that you want in the world Yeah, and I think that the reason that I decided to do this podcast is a direct Revolate response to the revelation that fucking help's not coming now help isn't coming No one's going to take out Alex and I don't want to take him out necessarily But no one's going to work against him and I'm uniquely situated to do so right so On a very small scale I'm here to help. That's what that's all we can that's the best we can do. Let's move along. Uh, this next clip This we've been sort of documenting alex jones

And his relationship with his own past as it relates to abortions right and in this next clip alex jones gets really weird about it I don't want to get preachy here. I do not judge people Who have had abortions and believed it was just birth control and didn't do it because they love death and hate their children And want to sell body parts, but the people running the racket. They're the ones that have the bad hearts. That's the big evil And and for a lot of pro-life folks out here to say well, what are you doing? You know telling people that have been involved in all this that that it's okay I've studied the psychology People get into the abortion movement because they're guilty for what they've done

They get judged and attacked so they double down and commit to it That makes no sense. I've had incredible success because I myself am guilty Of reaching out people and saying look what matters is how your heart was And especially if it was early on whatever, you know in my gut All that matters is you repent And then realize you were fooled you were deceived and that's part of dehumanization So alex is talking about himself. Yeah, he's he's projecting like crazy Yeah, that idea that most people get into the abortion game

Because they're guilty about their past is him talking about how guilty he is Which is why he's against abortion now He is assuming that people were trying to use his Guilt to make him think that abortion is okay When that's probably all just in his own head. It's all it's all entirely And so the function of that sentence or those that string of sentences that he was telling a caller is him saying that I felt that guilt and they tried to get me but I rose above it

I rose above it. I'm one of the rare ones who's able to not get wallowed down in guilt Which is insane since clearly he's wallowed down and guilt about it. Absolutely And that whole fucking idea of whatever it was in my heart is all that matters is such A escapist christian idea. Yeah, it's so like, all right. I beat that guy's ass, but I meant well I I went to my uh preacher. Mm-hmm, and I was like dude abortion But uh, I felt good. Yeah, I I confessed in front of god and man Yep, and my heart is absolved of it. Yep. Never have to worry about it again or change my actions

Well, certainly he changed his actions in terms of slandering Planned Parenthood and margaret sanger all over the place That's true. Uh, so this next clip Uh, alex jones talks about I wonder if he's paid for an abortion again He says he's paid for multiple ones in that past clip recently. I don't know. I bet he has I don't know. I I feel like it's irresponsible for us to speculate. Okay fair enough. We know nothing about We do know nothing. Uh, so this but we you know, we do know alex is fucking dumb And this next clip he talks about racial relations in dallas where he grew up. Oh, no

Look, look, I get there's a lot of racist black people Um, that's not how you start a lot of black leaders You've been more honest if can point it out that black people on average are some of the most racist people you ever gonna find Does that mean a majority are racist? Absolutely not. Does that mean they're not wonderful beautiful black people? With incredible culture and and and art and everything else who I love Man, he's absolutely a hammer here, but I grew up in dallas texas most racist hammers and let me tell you That's a lot of racist black people I've seen a lot more racist black people than I have seen white people

Which which would be Impossible I think so they would literally it would be impossible Well, the reason that it's possible is if you don't think that racist things are racist, right? Like he's gone on his show and talked about how blackface itself isn't racist. Yeah, he's allowed Gavin mcginnis to come on and say that most of blackface is reverent Well, it's I mean his so just take that as a microcosm his argument makes sense in his mind because Nothing he does is racist. Yeah, so the only racist things that happen Are done by people who aren't

Exactly like him or which is a racist thought in and of itself or he's being racist by saying that he's not And and further he allows the rationalizations and the bullshit that a white racist would say about their actions Of course, he accepts those as legitimate Uh, sort of like oh, that's that's why you did that thing that seems fucked up. Yeah, uh, or I mean like dylan roof He's like, uh, he's dumb. He should have been become an abortionist Right like so dismissive of that act of racism Uh, whereas he would not give the same leeway to black people if black person does something that's racist He's just like you fucking race pimp. Yeah, you know, so

And also I want to know what black leaders he's talked to khalid mohammed maybe give him Cart blanch to say whatever the fuck he wants. He claims he's been uh slandered by ferrican. Yeah Well, I don't think that's too hard to do. Yeah. Anyway, uh, so he Later on the show. He has an interview with his newly hired investigative reporter wane madsen. Oh, how long did wane stick around? I don't know. He's been around for two episodes so far And on the first episode he talks about how uh, hillary clinton's cook was murdered and this is the key to everything Hillary clinton's cook was murdered. Yes, so we're in full-on clue territory. Yes. All right The cook was found dead with a note on him that said contact larry nickles

Which to me means something is not right. Wait, that's a real thing. No, but that's what he said Okay, that's what he said. There's no way. So anyway, apparently this cook Uh, he was the white house chef on 9 11 and he knew something about right See now, I'm just thinking about how much fun it would be if we just wandered around and every time we found a dead body We just put a note on there that's called larry nickle. We have his number Yes, we could do that. We should call larry nickles and ask about that cook. Oh, that's a good thing We'll get back to that. Maybe we will. So, uh, Wayne madson is on this time still got him saved in my phone We'd have to let him know that we were recording. That's true. So we can actually air it

Um, Wayne madson's on this time and his big narrative is that uh, jeb bush is connected to the cartels That's his uh, sort of reporting that he gets into I don't really care. It's not it's not good But at one point Wayne madson does say that trump he's saying this as a positive mind you Oh, no, he says that trump is like a millionaire archie bunker Whoo I don't think they understood the point. I I don't think they got the point of archie bunker at all After I heard him say that it was like archie bunker is an archetype of an old racist

Yep, so I went back and I watched some clips from all in the family It's way worse than you remember. Yeah there He says like fucking he calls black people coons all the time He he claims that all europeans are fags like it's insane right uh, and actually because I started looking around for this Uh, there is a sizable youtube community that believes that archie bunker was a like a warning of the truth There's there are a number of people who have put out videos about how like this was this was like a subtle warning that we all just laughed at Like oh man

Oh, wait, you're finding you're finding the truth in all in the family. Yeah dude Oh open a open a book Just one the the other thing too is that like those videos about how archie bunker was like a profit I have like 400 000 views that bums me out. Oh, man bums me out archie bunker was a profit For good. No. Oh, no not at all. Oh so, uh There also another thing is the you know, like the collapse narrative is spinning along as as it does

Of course, he's he's mentioning that you need to buy gold august September october Actually, we still got to have a good christmas actually hold on You know, you're putting you're putting these time frames on things I want you to hold off on that for just a second Uh, because alex alex wants to before before he gets into another interview He's got to do a little sales pitch and he wants to tell you that, you know, all of these other places like pbs Uh, they get they force you to pay for them. You know, it's taxes. Sure taxes go to them msnbc

They get tons of taxpayer money just to give fucking rachel mad owl rays, but not him He's based on free will but it's all about free will we don't take a gun put it to your head and take money from anchor bailouts We don't take money and give it to mpr msnbc and stimulus money to give rachel mad owl You know a rays so she can interview michael more. We're just here saying we got great products You believe in what we're doing buy them and then we're a platform to have people like mr. Dent on and others now I'm ranting so mr. Dent is on who is mr. Dent mr. Arthur dent. Yes, it's arthur dent Uh, no his name is his first name escapes me. I don't know. He's on a bit peter dent I think and harry dent harry dent harry dent is on. He's an icon. That's a that's an unfortunate name. Yeah, it's like your

Yeah, my butthole is a harry. I got a harry dent right over here Uh, so he he's an economist and he's on a bit He's in the peter schiff league of alex jones guests in terms of these uh, sort of out there Economists that come on but I want to deal with the premise that alex is making that uh, he's based on free will And he doesn't have a gun to your head saying you've got to pay now That may be true but

All of his premise like all of his supplements all of these things are based on The globalists are doing things to you by the water that you drink poisoning the foods you make and so because i'm scaring you You are not going to be a complete healthy person unless you take these supplements Which is kind of a gun to the head creating a problem Uh, that I will insist is life threatening. Yes, and I am providing the solution. It's the hegellium dialect which is life saving Yeah, it's the problem reaction solution in which case essentially. I am threatening you until you

Take my products right and we are so it's like you have a gun to your head and even worse We've already discussed on a past episode about the Disaster narrative the economy is about to collapse my goal only to have ted anderson of mitis resources as a guest to tell you Hey, here's the answer 50 thousand dollars an ounce So now on alex's show here on the on this 13th day of august He's saying it's about free will i don't you know i'm not trying to force you to buy any products I just you know if you like the stuff we do like having harry dent on right give us your money And we'll shove it up our own harry dent now here is an excerpt of harry dent on the show

Oh, no china is the greatest bubble in history. It is finally coming unravel. That's why i am confident That we are when within i'd say weeks Of of the global bubble bursting again china was the first thing actually before that in march germany the leading market in europe looked like a peak to me and then and then the china crash and late may And end in july and now i think the us markets are going to start heading down by early september Probably peaking in the next week or two. So i think this is happening They'll come back up by christmas though. Yeah, because everybody's gotta have a good christmas. Yeah, it's within weeks Yeah, it's within weeks. It's happening now. That is so irresponsible

Like even like economy shows like financial shows shouldn't be saying shit like that right like Like with professors and like really credentialed people shouldn't be saying stuff like that to Ignorant audiences because people will believe them. Yeah, and we weren't weeks away and especially since economics is Also a belief system. Yeah, like just like we've talked about before with runs on the bank destroying banks like there is a shared concept that The economy is going to go well because we're all participating in it

And if you think it's going to fall apart You're going to stop participating into it. You can sabotage which will then make it fall apart so the the like constant fear metanarrative of the the economy is always on this cusp of collapse is It is basically saying all of society is always on the cusp of collapse Yeah, because it is a shared idea that we all live in one Economy, you know that kind of a thing totally agree. So you're just And it all feeds into that now the whole thing is coming down the whole thing is coming down

It's always coming down. Yeah, and now it kind of feels like it's coming down Yeah, but not in the same way. No, it's not very different way Like we have some fear and doom feelings For sure, right, but we're not telling you to buy gold. No, please don't buy gold buy water Have some water invest invest in water. Have some water in your house. So much. Maybe some ramen or something like that Cans of food is not a bad thing Well, but even in the same way that like when I was growing up my parents had a stock of food in the basement But it wasn't because of like

Collapse or disasters. It was because we lived in Missouri right and there are tornadoes Yeah, if our house like got destroyed by a tornado The basement would be safe and we could be down in the basement and eat these cans of food for a little bit In case you got trapped or anything like that. Certainly. Yeah, there's a hundred reasons why that is a very sensible perspective to have And put a blanket in your car. It's just always and fill the rest of the basement with gold You hear me uh dan dan are you crazy you build the basement out of gold gold deflects tornadoes Everyone knows that that's why is this true. That's why bill gates is trying to get all the gold This is true because he's got weather manipulation weapons

Okay, he can shoot tornadoes at your house. All right if he has all the gold then you can't deflect the tornadoes. All right It's fucking basic supply and demand. All right. Well, then you're you're right guys I'm quoting by tornado gold quoting harry dent there on my last rant. I wasn't that's not fair No, uh, so that's the end of our coverage of the uh, 13th and as we see his position has not changed really on trump at all The 14th is incredibly fucked up. No shit there. Is this where it turns? No, uh, not necessarily But The show itself Is not really that great. Okay. There's not much going on on the show. Let me let me consult my notes here

To get to you know, I want to take care of the important pieces before we start playing clips So he he's saying more pro russia stuff about how it's just soros trying to start a color revelant revolution Also, hillary's emails are now starting to be in play Uh, the fbi had taken her server right at this point Uh, and as we all know that investigation turned out to not really turn up all that much that was uh, that big a problem It was basically the planned parenthood investigation all over again. Uh, yeah, and so also They have a straight out of kompton review Done by kit daniels and uh, and jacari jackson. So jacari is still around at this point

That's important to point out. He hasn't bailed. No, uh, the review is a this movie was really good But also the cia created rap music That's a that's an interesting review. The why didn't they get into that in the movie? That's basically their review Yeah, so he has an interview with peter schiff who comes on to stress the disaster narrative the financial collapse narrative And in this one they start talking about peter schiff schiff's dad A bunch And they talk about how he's a political prisoner. He's in prison and uh, he should not be okay It's and they say that it's because he wrote a book

Okay Called federal mafia And it's a book about how you don't have to pay your taxes So he's in jail for tax evasion Ah They don't really talk about that. How is he a political prisoner? They don't talk about how the things that he was charged with Were that he didn't pay millions of dollars of taxes

Dating back to like the early 80s And so So, I mean How long how long has he been in jail for? Well, he's dead now. Oh, okay He dies like a couple months after this point in 2015. He died in like october 2015. How long did they say? I think he was in jail for like 10 years Oh, maybe he got a that might not even be that long, but he got like a 13 year sentence. Oh boy But but part of the 30 years of tax evasion and like millions of dollars right millions of dollars

Of course And the other thing is that he had a lot of disciples Because he was this guy who was writing these anti tax books where you don't have to pay tax And all of these people ended up going to jail Like he screwed over a lot of people with very inaccurate information Right. He was committing a fraud on them. Maybe not a fraud that was about self enrichment But it was a fraud that led people to think that they didn't have to pay taxes And that all of that was fake and so they ended up defrauding the government of over I think it was like 70 million dollars

Just people who were directly associated with wow and most of them got shorter prison sentences than him Right because they didn't write a book saying don't pay your fucking taxes And he also got like a contempt of court charge because he was acted up in court in some ways. I'm not sure I'm not paying for this. Yeah and They all they do on the show is talk about how Uh, his dad is in prison because he wrote this book and they allow people to sell the book But he can't sell the book and the reason that is is because he can't profit off the crime

Right, he committed a crime and like it's would be like illegal according to the first amendment for them Not allow that book to be out there, right? It would be the equivalent of book burning, right? And so they they're like all right the book wrote a second book called if I didn't pay taxes Yeah, here's how I wouldn't have done it So the book can exist but he can't make money off of it And so he ended up just giving away for free online. Yeah, so he's he's which is even which is even crazier to me Why would you give it away? I I mean unless you still unless he still believes in it. Oh, he totally did he went to his death

But still believing it but he went he did time Yeah, and here's the fucked up thing. I looked into it and when he was first getting charged He tried him and his lawyer tried to use essentially an insanity defense They tried to use a defense that a mental disorder caused him to have these beliefs And that he shouldn't be held responsible for them. Okay now, well then then what do you do with him? Well, here you just let him keep selling the book. Here's here's here's the thing That is him trying to dodge responsibility But his angle on it was no, no, no

I did that because I wanted to get in front of a jury They would have just had a judge decide it if I hadn't have tried to do an insanity plea Like I don't think that's how this works. Not how that works at all. No, so Irwin Schiff is I mean god rest his soul. It's sad Whatever, but I don't care. He was imprisoned for millions of dollars of tax evasion. That is it. Yeah, not political prisoner No But it is a political prisoner if you're one of these crazy fucking libertarians who thinks that taxes are a crime against you Right the taxation is violence Anyway, I just I just want to show these people the world that they think they want to live in because it's fucking insane

Yeah, yeah, absolutely like and here's the thing. You know what? If you want to be a libertarian in that way, you can do it Go to a fucking forest build your cabin and hunt that you don't have to pay taxes on Hunting shit Yeah, as long as as long as nobody's there and nobody knows then fine live your libertarian idea But just know you won't have electricity. You won't have fucking roads. Your kids won't go to school All of this shit is because of taxes and so if you are a libertarian

Take your fucking kid out of school throw your phone in the garbage Get rid of all of this shit because you don't get it and quite frankly, that's because we've already had the conversation Yeah, society has decided we figured it out. Yeah, society has decided that collectively We can create a much better place to live than killing things in the woods with no electricity and no netflix Right and if that's but if yeah, that's that's the other thing if you're a libertarian You're not allowed to watch netflix. Nope. You can watch hulu. Yeah No, because that's that's taxation. Yeah, so all that's some crazy shit But the stuff I want to talk about more is a narrative

there is a every now and again Alex jones His show has a beginning middle and end that logically makes sense And there is a storyline that goes throughout it that he did not intend And this episode i'm going to lay out The exact narrative and it's way more fucked up than you can possibly imagine. Okay, so here's the first clip where he's talking about he's reading a review

From the internet of his product brain force And I wanted to I hope it's a give you a review by loss from panorama city california On brain force didn't think much was happening Was taking it for a week with the secret b12. I cannot stress enough that Brain body is missing when I skipped it one day. I felt like I was either Missing screws or loose screws in my head great for concentration and focus I take it out for lunch for energy and the rest of the day. Thanks to all the info warriors

Yeah, that's the thing when I don't take brain force I feel it And that's what's so amazing about it. Somebody ran off of my open bottle. I need to take one Oh Gross when I don't take the brain force. That's when I noticed it and I actually didn't take my brain force Today and I'm still awake still have a lot of energy But this doesn't have the classical stimulants and it has key compounds you can read about on the website Watch informational videos about

I won't waste your time with if you're interested go read about it that are prescription in europe two of the ingredients prescription in europe And they're trying to make a prescription here so in that gap there he took a pill do you Are you Not capable alex of seeing how If you don't take it you feel it That's not the same thing as taking it makes me feel good. No, and that's the same thing as like Uh, you know if I don't smoke for after having smoked for 10 years or whatever I feel it. You know, I'm nervous. I'm anxious. I'm irritable all of these things. That's called addiction

He's describing essentially withdrawals. Yeah exactly and and so is that review. Yeah, and alex pops a pill on the show Yeah, well, that's very responsive and this is the beginning of the narrative Because we get to watch what happens to somebody who takes brain force. No shit. Yes something actually happens Oh, yes. Okay. Fuck. Yeah. I'm weighing now. It's debatable whether it's psychosomatic. Right. It's unclear. It's all it's probably It's probably like a homeopathic thing, but We'll see what I don't think look. I don't think that there's anything Let me be perfectly clear. It doesn't make him more focused It does not do what is on label. All right for sure

But it's it's really crazy because about half an hour after he takes that pill He changes Wow, and we'll see exactly what happens, but in the meantime, he's got to make some other bullshit claims So this next claim he uh What if it was just coke? What if he just took a coke pill quite frankly what we're gonna see it might as well be? Oh, wow, but I don't think coke would work if you took it as a pill I don't think so either but man. Why not give it a shot? Anyway, this this next thing is just absolutely insanity

And then let's grab the Spokane video from last year where the SWAT team commander goes We need this arm and vehicle. There are a lot of gun owners and veterans and Constitutionalists and we've got them in indiana saying the same thing Constitutionalists haven't done anything to anybody. I mean bullshit Maybe three cops a year On average, I think four got killed in 2013 three in 2014 And I think two cops so far have been killed by constitutionalists where the media could link it to a group sovereign citizens, I mean

That's one of the lowest crime rates of any group out there And but if you watch msnbc, you'd believe there is just an epidemic of police being killed by right-wingers And it's total baloney, but they keep saying it's gonna happen And a lot of it is then it gets the police on this attitude of messing with constitutionalists and then you get a self-fulfilling prophecy So, uh, let's just talk about constitutionalists haven't done anything to anybody They killed four maybe they killed four or five cops But that's nothing here's some headlines from this week Uh, just about this judge sentences sovereign citizen 12 years in prison for oak ridge rampage

And that story is about a guy, uh, who was convicted of one count of reckless vehicular homicide and eight counts of reckless aggravated assault He drove in reverse through a crowd of about 200 people during a fourth of july 2015's firework show at a park. That's a sovereign citizen who did that Uh, here's another one My computer's taking too long to load up. Oh, man. It's probably the sovereign citizens. I would fucking with my wi-fi They're not allowing this shit to happen. Uh, oh libertarians finally won and we don't any of us have wi-fi anymore Oak Ridge sovereign citizen who killed man sentenced monday the same guy two stories about the same guy. So, I mean there we go My bad

But be that as it may that's that's one guy one guy who killed a dude And injured eight other people at a fourth of july. That's americana. Was it attacking a fireworks? No, that's fair So then that's that's doing nothing. Also if you don't know if you don't know about sovereign citizens all of you out there listening I highly encourage you look it up on youtube because they're fucking hilarious If you take out all of the like they do kill people Stuff watching them argue in court is so funny There's they argue in court. Well, they don't believe that they are sovereign They don't believe in the integrity or the the right of the courts

They believe that america was established on like admiralty law maritime law and that so here's the and everybody who is just forgotten Yeah, no, no, no, it's secret. It's a secret. It's a secret. Yeah, it's a secret thing Everybody behind the scenes knows the truth, but they don't tell you see, you know on your government documents Your name is in capital letters. Yes, you know, you know that means because the capital letters That's not you as a person That's you as a financial entity, right? You are just created in order to get debt put into your name under the capital letters version of your name Now you with a capital j lowercase or d an that's you as a human flesh and blood

That's your sovereign entity, but these capital letters. That's the tax identity So every time you go to court if you go to court there all the documents in court are all these capital letters That's not you as a person. They're trying your tax identity They're trying you as a financial entity. You need to stop and never speak again, right? What the fuck that's that argument is on capitalization of letters. That's a big part of it. Yeah, all right So it's amazing though because they don't respect the court's authority. That's pretty fun and they say Awesome stuff that just makes no sense and some of the judges are really they try They try to like treat them like okay. Well, let's uh, what is what are you trying to get at that type of stuff?

Excuse me. Could you make sense crazy person? But uh, there was there's one where an old man is in court and the judge Eventually just gets really fed up and so she goes to chambers. Uh, and uh, he he's like the judge has vacated the court I now claim this court And so he he's like she's left all the charges are dropped She has left the court and so he leaves and he gets in a car and drives away and then there's an addendum He got arrested the next day. Yeah, I'm a fucking wait And contempt of court charges. Yeah, I would hope so these people are they are really like it's really funny

To see these videos on youtube But the dangerous ramifications of it is if you don't believe in any of the authority of things You do think that any cop who pulls you over is aggressing upon you Right also another part of sovereign citizen identity is in order to be your whole Lowercase lettered soul version of yourself the human version You have to renounce the capital letter version of yourself and to do so you have to write a letter and send your id And like your identification documents back to the government and tell them that you

Give them notice of your rejection of this tax entity version of yourself Who is making up this fantasy world? So in order to do that you now if you were ever driving You don't have an id so if you get pulled over by a cop You're automatically going to at least get a ticket may be arrested So every time a sovereign citizen runs into a cop It's basically a situation where they're going to get arrested. Yeah, so it really is a powder keg In a lot of ways right see the thing is all right see the thing is I just I just It sounds to me like the world's shittiest religion. It basically is like because and and

That's like the idea that yes Okay, sure The government and the laws have been around for 300 years or whatever But Have you considered that maybe they made a typo maritime law and that means none of it applies to me What what it's not it's not like it's not like cinderella where it's like oh if if you don't sign this by midnight It none of the you know, it's not it's not a hex. No, what is it? What is this? It's not fucking magic No, but it is uh an extreme version of distrust of the government

It's an extreme version of libertarianism even to some extent of course because another one of their pieces of Their belief is that the government shouldn't have any Or it's not supposed to have any control over traveling and they they can see Well they conceive of like driving as traveling and so like you'd I don't need a driver's license to travel You're not traveling. You're driving Right it's it's it I did a lot of looking into them a while back and it's fucking fascinating But if you're not an idiot and you look at it you realize that oh, this is this is a real short walk

From real serious problems. Yeah people not respecting courts means They're going to get arrested a bunch right people not respecting police means you're going to get arrested a bunch Means you're going to feel like They don't have any kind of authority to arrest you and you're going to feel threatened every time you run into one every single time And you're already a fucking idiot And you're not going to be threatened in the same way that or you're not going to feel threatened in the same way That let's say minorities do which is based on systematic oppression over years. You're going to feel threatened by

A real silly maritime law-based Admiralty thing Delusion yeah, but anyway, I still recommend people go watch some of these videos. They're amazing So alex gets down that road and that's while the uh, the uh Brake force hasn't yet kicked in it's sort of in that gestation period, you know right before right before the ride starts Still swirling around in that in them guts And uh, here's where it kicks in uh, alex gets on a little bit of a rant or he uh, he starts by talking about how honest he is Okay, and then talks a bit about how he's so honest. He's rude to his girlfriends

Uh, and then it just goes from there, of course and notice the sheriff says we're liars I Remember the articles we wrote about last year when all this broke And his video press release where he says info wars are liars buddy. I'm a liar Stop there like I'm a Chinese jet pilot from Pluto I mean my problem is I can't control myself. I tell the truth Sometimes when I should just keep my mouth shut

I agree. I crave the truth. I live the truth I want to be the truth I mean, I'm so truthful that when you know girlfriends and stuff would ask me Does this dress look good? I tell you no Or does this jet on the end of my nose look bad? Yeah, it looks bad. So what? Rude all I got is my integrity That's why they always attack it because they got my phones tapped my computer's tapped They know all about me going back to high school. They know how real I am how I

This is where it gets real. Yeah, I'm about to see I'm I'm about to see this go wild So this is where it just jumps off in a serious way and you can see a change in him. Okay, it's It's fascinating always been involved. I've been involved fighting tyranny since I was 14 years old before I even knew I was doing it I'm at a party With my buddy's older brother his older brother's getting drugs for cheerleaders I noticed it's a guy on a uniform driving off in the Corvette I say to his brother. Was that a cop just sold you that pot in that ecstasy I wasn't smoking the pot or taking the ecstasy was for the cheerleaders

And he said, yeah, I keep your mouth shut. That's super rapey. That's super rapey. I think I was like 12 or 13 That's better but that's worse I'd see cops that I knew were dealing drugs and I'd be like they'd pull over me and my buddy Who was older driving with a six pack of beer into the seat and they go I'ma take it to jail for this and I'd say I saw you deal drugs a few years ago And the cop would just freak out and start hyperventilating and say you want me to kill you kid and I said man I don't know what you're doing, but you're not going to take me to jail for beer when you're a drug dealer 14 years old

I understood that stuff And texas monthly didn't believe me so they went and investigated in rock wall And found out the sheriff went to prison for cocaine importation and the police department had been implicated in drug rings Hell they ran the prostitutes They ran the drugs all of it and I wasn't involved in it. I lived in a wealthy golf course upper middle class neighborhood And I mean I just saw it for myself I want to stipulate that was a fucked up story. I want to stipulate that this one might be true

That does sound true. I did look into it and the sheriff of rock wall did get busted for drug charges I can't find independent confirmation of that. Now. Here's the thing Alex is a liar right that story about the rock wall sheriff came out in 2009 There is an entire possibility that he built a fictitious past for himself Based on the knowledge that that story had broken So that's entirely possible. So you think it's possible that he saw that that had been broken. Yeah, and then wrote like like rick like Like the false recovered memories. Yeah kind of thing where it's like he saw that and he goes

Oh, I remember when I was a part of that. Yeah, it's possible. It's possible Although also the only reason that I think this story sounds true is when he said They're getting drugs for cheerleaders Mm-hmm, and he thought it was better that he wasn't taking the drugs Yeah, he was like see I wouldn't take the drugs. We are giving them to young Impressionable women. I'm 12. We're drugging them

That's that's what he's that's what he's saying. He witnessed he witnessed his buddy's drug women But also, I mean sure there is the cosby aspect to it But you got to also consider this was like the mid 80s at the time You know, there was some rave culture that was going on It's not it's not necessarily that they were drugging people as much as maybe they were supplying No, I it's possible that these cheerleaders that he's referencing did want recreational drugs. Oh, no, no I'm not I'm not saying that it's a problem that I'm I'm saying that to me if if you go to a

party uh, you know Join in the party Don't go to a party like that if you're 12 I believe he's 14. No, he was 12 at the party at the party 14 when he got pulled over with beer under the seat Well, that's a crime. Sure. But the guy's a drug dealer And then the cop threatened to kill him. I think some of this. I don't think that one's some of that's embellishment

obviously obviously Alex is Very bizarre a couple years after his termite poison Exposure. Oh, yeah, which actually did look into and I found pretty good evidence that An acute exposure For just like an hour even can cause serious mental degradation. Wow. So they've done studies and it's so he's fucked It's possible. It's possible. But I As it relates to this story

There's one possibility that he's not lying That this could be one of the things he said that's true Or like you said false recovered memories based on hearing this story from right 2009 But uh, he's not done with his rant yet. And I'm not talking about me anymore I I I it's not about alex jones. It's that I had these experiences and I'm not going to be signed on to it Aborting babies because if I go along with it, I'm involved in it. I'm not going to go along with dinecore grabbing five-year-olds And put them on slave trains I'm not going to be involved in it. And let me tell you if I don't fight it. I'm involved in it

I mean, I feel guilty that I'm not doing enough to fight it when I cover this stuff. I feel like I've done it That's what I call god fearing. I mean to explain how this feels I feel guilty for all this stuff Okay, I mean I've seen like White thugs black thugs. Uh-oh Hispanic thugs you name it repeatedly in stores in my life or at a gas station Smart off of some old man or some old lady and I probably shouldn't do it And when I know that I have kids I don't I got it, you know

Something else in the car to defend and I'll I'll just say hey, listen start a fight with somebody you think you can They'll start balling up. I'll go line up. I'm gonna beat your ass right now You sons of bitches and I'm sorry to have to talk like that. That's right. You know what it is I know at those points. I could wipe the floor with all those people And it's not because I'm the toughest guy around It's instinctive that I don't like punks and thugs running wild and and and running rough shot on people That's a normal male response Oh boy

Do you want to shoot your mouth off to an old lady? Why don't you say it to me? you punk And I don't like seeing cops that act like gang members either And that's what we have a problem with is men that didn't have fathers around Who think acting like a thug and follow what gangsters taught them is what's tough. That's not tough. That's not manly That's cowardly. That's weak. That's pathetic This is a brain. A man will stand up to the three gang members Now in full. Oh, you can get stabbed to death and tell them I'll stomp your brains in

And let me tell you I've done it too You shouldn't admit that and I'm not up here talking about how tough I am either There comes a point when you got to stand up against scum There comes a point when it doesn't matter what happens that you got to stand up or you're no longer a human And we reached that point a long time ago So I don't give a you know what about the new world order or what they do to me or anybody else I've put my whole thing on the line my family my treasure my name all of it on the line a hundred percent And when they bury me six feet under you can know for sure. I'll never compromise. I'll never sell out

I'll never submit. I'll never back down because it's not in me to do it Very ironic considering how much of a cheerleader for trump. He's going to become you know I mean like he conceptualizes even more ironic considering he's had to back down for multiple stories yeah, and like the idea that Everything is about the globalists in the new world order Allows him to be like i'm not selling out to trump. He's just you know, he's gonna take out my guys Right, right, right. So it's it's a cowardly brain force does not sound like a fun drug. No, it sounds like a bummer Like it's this is crazy. Yeah, that is not a good high. He's not done yet

And the reason we're in the position we are today is because other people don't have that attitude Honey wish Excuse me The sheriff is either stupid or he is a globalist federal want to be gangster And he makes me want to throw up that he's so dishonorable And i'm gonna go to spokane and he needs to he needs to man up and talk to me I Had a sitting there talking trash about his constituents they need to vote this guy out

Eugh gross all right. I'm gonna stop right there. Excuse me. I get mad sometimes and I try not to do you Wait for it We're in full war ladies and gentlemen. I've only plugged once an hour. It's how we fund the operation I want to hire more reporters. I want to be able to send reporters around the country I want to be able to sustain what we're doing and grow to the next level All right, so there it is. Yeah, but even though like he had to find something to do and it's like oh, I might as well plug Yeah, you can see that the like

Brain force is a roller coaster because he's furious and then just the low. Yeah Just deflated after screaming. Yeah, that's weird. I mean, obviously it's a combination of brain force and his own lunacy. Yeah, so after this He ends the show The show ends on august 14th But he does overdrive Which means that it's not on the regular radio right is just on some stations that decide to cover it And on the internet it's on info wars.com right and

Still on the brain force. Oh, yeah, and it's peaking. Uh-huh and I think He is pretty glad that this isn't on the radio once it starts I'm going to play you exactly where overdrive starts And it will take up probably the next hour of our lives Because he gets a caller that is the most problematic thing. I think I've ever heard on his show Oh, wow, and we're just gonna go with it. Here we are. That's a tough fight Frank in North Carolina. Thank you for calling Thank you for holding you're on the air Frank. Welcome Yeah, thanks for taking my call Alex. Um, yeah, I'm angry too and uh, you know, I hope you'll give me a moment

I've been on hold for almost an hour listening to you talk about how you're gonna beat everybody up, but uh I know I know I know you can stop my ass in the ground I was talking about stand up against little gang members picking on old ladies. Okay. Go ahead make your point Well, I heard you making some disparaging remarks the other day and barring that he was one of the most disgusting people out there today And uh, you know, as soon as you hear me talking about I just I'm gonna lay out a little bit where I'm coming from You know All this diversity stuff, you know, there the whole system is lined up against white straight traditional

Society, I mean obviously that's that sheriff or that cop You answered the question yourself. What's behind he wants to be on what he perceives Is the winning team just like all these evangelical preachers The the vatican the catholic church. They all want to be on the winning team. We all know I agree. It shows they're trying their takeover right now and i'm doing 30 minutes overdrive. She got plenty in time. Go ahead So Alex jones gets a white supremacist caller. Yep, this guy is Clearly on the white genocide tip. Yep, which alex is subconsciously

Or very much so And uh, it's interesting to see how he responds to this. Yeah, I can't wait I can't wait to talk to you white nationalist Well, I mean he does say we're in overdrive. We got plenty of time take as long as you want now I think uh before we get into this because it's rough What I think alex jones thinks That his response to this out and out white supremacist and I'm saying that knowing what he's going to say Uh, uh, good. I'm not misaligning this caller. Right the way that alex responds. He thinks

That he is repudiating white supremacy. Oh, no, but he's not he's muddying the waters and uh his response to this caller is Uh, weird and because he's on this brain force He mixes up a whole lot of other issues into it and it's like I said Problematically super fucked up. So you're probably wondering though. Who is that caller talking about frank in north carolina? Frank, who are you talking about? Frank talking about let's find out. Okay

Uh, you know, I think he's among the most eloquent voices of reason out there today Bernie Sanders for the white race He's advocating not just for the white race, but for humanity and for western civilization David would it would David Duke's work? Well, I'll be honest with you I haven't followed much of what David Duke has done much like Trump Yeah, I do think that he is a eloquent speaker from the speeches. I've seen him give not good I do not like organizations that sneak around in secret eugenics programs like the real clan did Uh, and then they run all this race war garbage to dominate and control society

But I'm not putting that on him even though I know he was a grand dragon I know this I've been sent multiple clips with David Duke saying I basically I am a fraud or or cover up for israel and all this bull. I have nothing to do with israel I just don't obsess over it and if I fall down on a banana peel I don't blame jews for it. There are some bad jews. There are some good jews. There are some bad germans There are some good germans. There are some good chinese some bad chinese That's where I stand and the whole race cult group so much david duke But the white supremacist hordes hate me

Because they get their southern poverty law center adl connection funding and the rest of it They're there to make the liberty movement be race centric in the prison complex divide and conquer Where everyone is forced into their race group And then we don't have a unifying idea of basic human liberty and freedom So of course there's a war on whites But there's also a war on blacks and a war on everybody else Directed by the same global technocrats. No, so that's where I stand and I don't care what color you are I don't want you aborted in the womb. I don't want to speak for david duke because I haven't read his books

I've seen him in tv debates. I've probably Heard clips of his radio shows 10 15 times. I've seen maybe 10 15 of his videos I don't have time to follow it. It's usually hey, look at this clip David duke's talking trash about you and I barely even listen to it Uh, so all I know is is that people want to feel like they're better than me Because they can say alex jones works for the vaticanary works for israeli works for this or that No, i'm a real person with integrity. I work for the ideas of basic freedom as best I see him. So, uh His response to this caller saying, uh, what's your beef with david duke to be fair is a direct answer

I believe in the sense that he's like, I don't know much about him. I hate that he talks shit about me Yeah, he kind of makes it pretty direct. Yeah, but at the same time his answer about this idea of white genocide is Of course, there's a war on whites. There's also a war on blacks. There's also a war on them. It's the globalists Yeah, no, you you were you were you were getting there, buddy Well, his deflection from the very real issues of race and uh racism Uh, or they're like, oh no, no, no, no, no missing the forest for the trees. It's globalists Right, it's this made up a boogeyman that I have in my head. You guys aren't focusing on that You're stupid and I don't like that you guys are focusing on

I don't like that you guys are focusing on this race narrative That's what he's saying. He's saying that you're like somewhat Yeah, you're you're You're part of the globalist plan to distract against What they're doing to us and so he's calling david duke a globalist or at least an agent of the globalist Somewhat, but then the worst part of it as he goes along. He's like you guys I get it You're right. You're just not right enough, right? Like it's everybody. It's not just whites, but yes, of course There's white genocide, right, which is not good. No, it's not good. That's the all lives matter

That's that's him all lives mattering white supremacists more or less. Yeah. Yeah, but then the other thing is Alex doesn't realize how people hear him He doesn't realize how much white supremacists love him He thinks how can he not well? There's a small group that are very vocal that do think that he's a zionist chill Right and stuff like that or that he works for the Vatican as he says Like there are people who obviously sound off in his comment sections on his youtube videos

That are like you dumb jew you work for israel You know and stuff like that. So he interprets these Small subsections of the white supremacist Commenters that that respond to him as being like all white supremacists hate me not realizing that the narratives and the way he Covers race differently throughout the show You know the difference between a white gunman and a black gunman or the way he's so anti-islam Those things he doesn't realize are mana from heaven to white supremacists. Absolutely So he he doesn't realize that

This caller is essentially in his demographic. Yeah squarely in his demographic The caller is said he's been listening for an hour and and on hold for an hour. Yeah, and the on hold for an hour That's what I meant. Yeah, the caller isn't saying alex. You're wrong. I hate you. You work for israel No, he's saying i'm a fan of yours and I don't like you talking shit about david duke I don't like that. You guys can't get along. Yeah, because you guys clearly are compatible. Yeah That's really what he's he's like. Hey, come on. You like david duke. I've synthesized your philosophies together into my personal philosophy Obviously, they're compatible. Yeah, what's wrong? Well, obviously they are compatible and there are much like the situation with the police in rock wall

There's two possible situations One is that alex is totally oblivious of the fact that he is a racist. Yeah, which I see is very unlikely Ah, man, you gotta you gotta know your well the idea that he would be so surprised by White supremacists loving him is strange. Well, but his his defense is always going to be that he says You know, I don't care He says that so he thinks that's a defense. We all bleed red blood. Right, but you do care clearly Because of what you say and you're all the other times and the way you cover things. Yeah

I mean, it's all of your actions are racist. You don't get to say, you know His entire life is the his show should just be called. I'm not a racist, but yeah, you know, like that's that's what he's doing I don't care if you're white or black or I'm just saying that black people are more racist I don't care if you're white or black. We have racists on both sides Uh, there are a lot of violent people on both sides, but black people beat me up more I don't care if you're white or you're black, but I love david duke and black people scare me. Yeah, uh, Muslims have little girls allowed to go to pool shops and starbucks freaks me out freaked me out So, uh, you you're fairly right, but let's get through this call because there's a there's a ways to go

He ends up doing 20 minutes with this collar. Jesus Christ, which you would never do with That's insane. Now never do that with someone who's maybe supporting like, uh Ferguson, yeah, you'd be like he would get them off the phone. Oh, yeah, shut them down 20 seconds immediately. Uh, so here we go And so I just don't see legitimacy Out of the general white supremacist crowd Do I hate them more than I hate the black supremacist? No Do I get a lot of their views understand why they think that I get it? No, but I get why black supremacists operate the way they do Do you it's a paradigm manipulation?

So that's what it comes down to go ahead Yeah, I mean I hear you talking a lot about um, you know, uh genocide of blacks and everything and I mean, that's a legitimate, uh point Is it I don't hear you talking a whole lot about the very Uh, very engineered genocide of the white race I mean diversity, I believe is really code for anti-white or white genocide and do you can go and find uh You can go find people very prominent people even government basically advocating. I'll tell you what stay there. I gotta go to break Frank it'll come back and you can finish up. Well, absolutely There's an attempt to get rid of any individual culture

By itself. There's a corporate overwrite a synthetic takeover. There is that agenda So you how do you miss? How do you misunderstand it that bad? Uh, you're scared of everything Like that's like how is it that you? Like you being cool with other people's culture Is to you The government saying we can't have any cultures. Well, I look at it like this um So I I you know, I come from a white Caucasian background

We like let's say hamburgers or whatever, right? Okay I go through my life a little bit further and I encounter Hispanic culture I'm like fucking burritos are way better than hamburgers now. I've invalidated my own white culture Because their culture is superior in terms of burrito versus hamburger. Okay, so I go about my life a little bit further And then I run into like stir fry like I run into a Thai cuisine And I like oh my god, this is better than burritos And eventually it becomes a thing where no one has any culture anymore. I think that's as dumb as what he's saying Now I grant I grant what I was saying was very dumb. No, no, so I but that actually doesn't make

Like no, it doesn't make sense In the way that you know, you mean it but as an explanation for how they think that does make sense Well, at least because they can't they can't accept the first step the first step Well, right the burrito versus hamburger. Well the the idea that This one that one of them has to be better than the other one Yeah, like it's not like you and I both know some days. I want a burrito. Yep some days I want a hamburger. Mm-hmm both good. Sure both good. Yeah, so If you always live in this like the burger

Has to be the best, right? So if the if the if the burrito we're a mcdonald's country not a taco bell, right? All right, so if the burrito is better You can't admit that Because that would as you said that would invalidate your culture and here's alex's argument Look, you guys are being distracted by hamburger versus burrito when the reality is there is a bunch of globalist elites who want us all to eat mush Oh That's sort of his that's pretty much that if we want to use the food metaphors

That's what he's getting at. I think we should don't fight hamburger versus burrito fight against the coming mush Well, that actually kind of makes sense Absolutely doesn't I wish I could find an episode where alex jones finds out that like that guy That when that guy was developing soylent like the food replacement. Oh, yeah, I wish I would I would love to hear his take on that Imagine it's uh, anyway, we got this white supremacist caller and alex keeps him over a break Of course, and he's like, let's get more into this. I love talking about which to me That that seems kind of a little calculated to me or at least something that he got Which is that I get to have it both ways

I get to let this white supremacist say the stuff that my listeners love to hear And I get to act like I am against it I get to act like I'm not a white supremacist somewhat. Yeah, so by by showing this this version I look like a hero It does at least Sort of provide like the idea of uh, I'm ambiguating myself for this right right there's some of that But I don't know like I said, there's a lot of call left. So let's uh, let's let's dive in Let me let me have this this one this clip. I didn't really cut out all that much

Uh, I cut out a couple things where it got repetitive or What have you just a couple minutes of the of the call this one starts with uh, Alex coming back from break He lies about how he calls out all sorts of racism no matter where it is Sure, uh, and then gets into some false equivalencies When white people organize and persecute black people we expose it and say it's wrong When people try to set police up though for things they haven't done and make them the enemy period because they're in blue That's more tribalism we expose it when cops act like thugs and gangs we expose them

So i'm really against tribalism. I know humans are so tribal. They use it to control us I want tribalism of private property of sovereignty uh of the power of the family And yes whites are under attack. Yes, they have free slaps for whites at berkeley Uh, yes, they're telling whites that being white is inherently Bad and uh evil I want to take a break right there to tell you a little bit about my childhood

Okay, I grew up in hawaii for a little bit when I was a kid And they call white people howlies in hawaii. That's pretty fun. Uh, well it translates to no soul Right white people don't have souls. So they're accurate According to so they're just using their words properly. There is a fairly rich tradition of distrust of white people in hawaii And god still not enough the reason if only they had gotten it at the beginning The reason for that is overthrowing of their government uh taking of their land and complete destruction of their culture Yeah, uh, there is a reason for that But even despite that when I was growing up a lot of my friends were hawaiians

They were natives they are there were a lot of Polynesians who were my friends growing up There wasn't racism against me as a white person Although the calling people howlies was intrinsically racist, right? So What i'm trying to get at is If I wanted to I could get up on a soapbox and talk about how racist everyone was to me as a kid I could do that I could say everyone called me a no soul heaven white guy or all this right

I could do that Yeah In the same way that alex tries to get uh all kinds of white victim hood narratives out of nothing Trying to get blood out of a stone I could do that same thing if I wanted to With the with my childhood in hawaii, right? But the reality of it is I did get beat up once but I had it coming I was being a dickhead to somebody and I could frame it as this big-ass Polynesian dude

Hated me because I was white the reality is I was a smart ass kid and I was making fun of him And I shouldn't have been he was way bigger than me and beat my ass right that happened I could reframe it if I wanted to right I could leave out those details that no one would be able to find No one except maybe my brother. He might be aware of it right, but It's it's it's silly. It's pointless And I don't think that I I mean I I don't think that texas could possibly be a more anti white environment than hawaii like Hawaii has texas hawaii has a very I can't think of anywhere that's more pro white than maybe

Maybe frank in north carolina Well, yeah, it's rank in north carolina's house is a very pro white space. Yeah, but what I'm saying is that I think that hawaii has a cultural reason to be against white people Well, I mean that it's very simple the cultural reason to be against white people You're there Do you know how you got there? Not good you stole it. Yeah, you stole. Yeah. Yeah. No you you should

At no point in history should anybody's trust white people No, like the biggest change in history would be if you just sent one guy back every time to be like, hey Don't don't say hi to the white people or be let's deal deal with this differently. Yeah. Yeah Don't invite them in don't invite them in kill them inviting people in is fine But like not if they're white. No, I don't I don't I don't agree with that I think that you there's a way to go back in time There's not but I know If there was a way to go back in time, I think there's a way to still allow people in and uh be like don't trust their intentions

Like be be more hard line negotiators about stuff because these fucks do not have souls Don't give the benefit of the doubt, but I don't know if it's necessary for me to make this Uh, I I get what you're saying. Yeah, but here's here's the thing that I the first thing that he said In this clip is like when right when white people are racist and do all this shit We call it out. Mm-hmm. Then the next thing he says but If they're uh, you know if they're being set up if we're covered we we're gonna call that out too by globalists Which is basically him saying when white people are racist we will condemn it

But every time we've seen white people be racist. It's a false flag. Yep White people are never actually racist. They're set up to be racist, right? And that's the distinction between Frank's really dumb White supremacy and alex's cloaked white supremacy under the guise of globalist exactly like I said I can't for the life of me because I've never spoken to him Uh, I don't really know if it's intentional or not Like I don't know if alex really deeply has white supremacist beliefs or if it's just a by-product Uh mixed with underlying racism that is kind of subconscious, right?

I don't know and I don't think we can know but this phone call is really fucked up All of this is going on All of this is unfolding and happening But then separately there are government programs to basically pigeonhole and attack And go after Black people hispanics you name it. I mean look at Gardasil Which is known to cause reproductive problems and all sorts of other Uh, major major issues

That's being targeted against basically what is it three or four latin american countries, uh, mexico is chief amongst it And you don't hear mecha la raza mecha means Well, I mean their slogan is for everything for everybody in the race everything for those outside the race nothing When you look at what la raza means it means the race and it's just like a kukles clan organization So why is it bad for there to be a kukles clan for white people? But then it's okay for the hispanics. No It's all manipulative. It's all bad. No, it's not and you're lying. Uh, what is the reality behind, uh,

Well, la raza translates to the people it doesn't translate to the race. That is a right wing bigoted Version it's a false cognate So the idea that it is like a race based organization is is silly. It's mostly cultural based issues la raza is itself Just an advocacy group for hispanics, right? It's a group that seeks to equalize healthcare Education those sorts of things. Oh, so it's an advocacy group. So good. Yeah, so they they seek to do good Which means they have to be destroyed in the same way that like the n double acp will step in for civil rights

Complaints that are racially based against black people la raza is there in terms of uh, hispanic folk Now mecca mecca is a youth organization. It's a college organization that started back in the 60s Uh, it has a little bit more of a revolutionary bent to it But it's not at all like the clan They do have uh, they're they have a phrase. Uh, that is a sort of a catch phrase I'm not sure if it's their official slogan or anything, but it's poor la raza toto Fuera de la raza nada Which means for the people everything for those against the people nothing, right?

Uh, it is a take on the phrase. Uh, that was popular during the cuban revolution Which was poor la revolucion toto fuera de la revolucion nada for it good against it mad Essentially, yeah, and his false equivalents of talking about how it's like the kkk is stupid because even uh, even mecca Which does have a little bit more of a problematic history because it's mostly made up of college students And sometimes they do dumb fucking things So there is a little bit worse of a history to that but not on the not on the scale of of kkk stuff They just have maybe said some bad stuff about jews in the past. Oh, well, they shouldn't do that

No, and the but I really like their restraint in their not murdering and uh killing a bunch of black people for 100 years Not targeting people based on their race. I'm a huge fan of the not violently targeting Didn't murder a bunch of people for no other reason and la raza is itself like I said an advocacy organization It is not Against anybody as much as it is trying to help people right disenfranchise that's saying that that's saying that n double acp Is the black kuklux clan, right? But there you know, I think that there might i'm this might be me giving alex too much credit But there are street gangs that are called like

Uh, something la raza right there are and if you if he's trying to make that false equivalents That's even worse. Yeah, but the reality is too It's so much more of a complicated conversation to have about the reason why organizations like the n double acp And la raza need to exist have to and something like and it's partly because of the fucking kuklux clan Yeah, and something like a white version of that doesn't really need to exist because we've got the kuklux clan And and a lot of our interests we we we don't well like white interests are protected by default in society That is the standard of everything right and the reason why these groups need to exist is sometimes The priorities of white people that just automatically get fulfilled

Uh step on the toes of these other culturally disenfranchised groups man step on the toes is a really light way of putting it Right i'm trying to put it. I would I would go with step on the throats Yes, absolutely. That is definitely more fair. Yeah, so the idea that alex pretends that the sort of cultural matrix of power Doesn't exist right is absolutely insane, but uh It's that it's that dumb like Oh, well, why don't we have a white history month because all all hit all of all of the months So just shut up right how how mad would people be if we had a white history month? No one would care no one would care shut up. Yeah stop it

Yeah, so alex wants to make another he has a dumb metaphor to explain Like his idea about the divide and conquer strategy that the globalists are using against us by race He has a way to sort of explain it and it's dumb because if you look at how a prisons run in divide and conquer They organize it around race black gangs white gangs Hispanic gangs asian gangs and then it's controlled by the warden that way and the central banks do have the roth childs Who are jewish there's a lot of that influence in there, but then they're also funding Eugenics and the nazi movement, so i'm gonna try to get david duke on i've actually thought about this for a long time

I was a guest on a radio show one time But they surprised me and had him on like in 1997 or something He probably never knows he's been on the air with me and i know he's talked about me repeatedly because i've been sent to clips Uh, i'm gonna invite david duke on for a full hour discussion. I was just thinking about that a few weeks ago And have a serious discussion about world events And how does he square eugenics? And all these covert programs that are going on targeting everybody if it's just a conspiracy against white people What i'm saying is they put the fluoride in everybody's water

They push the Gardasil on black white old young. They don't care While they i want to take a break. I think they should care who they're pushing the Gardasil on because that really is And no one's given it to the elderly. Yeah, they're they don't really need it. No, uh, then I looked into the statistics about They're just wasting Gardasil. I was looking at the statistics about the incidents of side effects from Gardasil And uh, there is a database of negative reactions that people have had to uh to Gardasil is it like everybody gets one. Do you do you get to pick one? What do you mean? Do you everybody? Well, Gardasil is murdering people, right? So everybody is so there's a hundred percent

Murder rate, right, right all of them all of them. Yeah, you get all of them every time in the database They they have had researchers who've gone in and investigated the claims of these incidents of You know, you just get rid of fever and stuff like that Yeah, and the incidents of like fevers headaches stuff like that is in the one to nine to one to hundred Landscape, you know, you get to serious side effects and people went through poured over 20,000 incidents of negative side effects of people who got these Vaccines right and the conclusion that they drew is that of all the stuff that they could analyze

There is nothing that suggests that there's causation from the Gardasil vaccine at all the numbers were statistically uninteresting when compared to the just population Yeah, the deaths that have happened because of Gardasil are not things that could be attributed to Gardasil, of course the side effects It's correlation causation. Yes. The side effects that are very serious are things that like I said are just Statistically on par with the population, right? So they did a little further deep dive into side effects of vaccines And one thing that was really interesting that this guy found was that if you take five these five specific vaccines Uh, there's like the flu vaccine and I can't remember what the other ones were right

But if you look at them and you look at the incidents reported of cervical dysplasia in people who have had these vaccines You look at it and one of them the people who have had the vaccine two people had cervical dysplasia Three of them zero one of them had one those numbers are substantially lower than the main Population as a whole now, maybe they also cure Well, you can't make that claim either of course not because that's dumb It's correlation not causation, but that's super interesting statistically and Saying that the flu vaccine cures cervical dysplasia has the same amount of scientific credibility that alex has saying that it causes

Right. So the idea that like first of all fluoride isn't nearly as negative as alex paints it out to be It I don't think it's great to put anything in the water Uh, but it's not some sort of brain chemical that's going to destroy us and dumb us down that part is a huge myth Uh, and then further is other example that they're forcing Gardasil on people and no one's mad about it Tens of thousands of women die every year globally because of cervical cancer if you look at the statistical rates of negative side effects of Alleged deaths caused by which there aren't any at least well, they might maybe a few but Not a negligible number. It's medical science. There somebody's gonna die

Yeah, but compared to the tens of thousands of women who die every year because of cervical cancer Not to mention anal cancers not to mention, uh, there's like four or five other cancers It takes care of that's all associated with hpv. Yeah hpv causes a bunch of cancers and uh, you can just get rid of it It's it's insane that he's against it and thinks it's a some sort of a scam. Anyway, let's get through this It's it's again. It's because it's for women. Yeah But he also knows that 80 of his listeners are dudes. Yeah, who cares? Oh, the other thing I wanted to point out what about that clip was His premise of prisons are run by separating people by race. It's very flawed. I

He said Wardens control the gangs, right? He said that the wardens played them off against each other By separating them into gangs based on race, right? And if you've ever watched any documentaries about prison No one's doing that to them. Everyone does that to themselves. Yeah people separate based on race In prisons because it's a desperate situation and there are a lot of criminals in there Yeah, there's a lot of exploiters in there. There's a lot of people who have created a system Where in if you're weak, they will rape you if you're weak They will take all of your food if you're weak

They will get you to have your parents send money and then steal it from you There's so much methods of exploitation that people use in prison not to mention murder, right? So the thing is the system that inmates have been able to figure out which is definitely flawed is Break off into racial gangs and protect each other Right now a big part of that might be that a lot of these criminals were racist before they went in And a lot of them were parts of gangs on the outside, right? So that translates to the inside It's not the warden that who is the facsimile of the globalists in this uh in this metaphor Yeah, being like all right

I'm gonna get them to fight and then we'll have total control over the prison because you don't have total control over the prison When you have in fact with those gangs you have far less control over the prison. You have constant riots Yeah, it's a constant fight people making shanks. Yeah and stuff like that. Yeah, it's so stupid His metaphor doesn't work Anyway, it's a dumb metaphor. Yeah, so this next clip alex gets a little bit weird about people thinking he's jewish There's something bigger here It's much worse And it's limited

And so that's what i'm saying. That's what i'm getting at um I mean, is there jewish supremacy? Absolutely, is there jewish mafia? Absolutely, but does it mean it runs everything and it's the source of all evil? It's like italian mafia. I'm against the jewish mafia, but I don't hate individual jews themselves who are very diverse people It's more complex than that. I mean are there race laws in israel where if someone comes in the country to work and they date a jew You can be arrested Absolutely. Is that apartheid?

Is that yes, why does israel promote? Racial stuff over here, but that doesn't live by it there. I get all that I call israel out on that Israel some of the israel lobby promotes gun control here, but once guns over there They are they do the white supremacist but not or the white separatist or whoever they are ever say oh, he told the truth No, they lie about me and say I get orders from israel His complaints really seem to be mostly about him. Yeah The problem with the kkk is sometimes they're mad at me. They lie about me. Yeah, I don't like that Everything else they do him fight with and then we'll find some legal office where I followed the corporation once

and Out of a huge law firm of 40-something lawyers once they did a liquor license in texas for sagrams to sell alcohol And so I must work for the brothmans because a lawyer at a firm Had done a liquor license for liquor stores. What the? I I mean, you know, it's that type of People think they're scoring points

Proving something that isn't there on the line So the whole anti-catholic crowd this is very much an alec It's a general criticism of the catholic church by lying The whole white supremacist crowd discredit yourselves by the incessant lying The incessant making stuff up the incessant this person's a jew that person's a jew everyone's a jew I'm a jew. No, I'm not a jew I don't like the way you say jew I mean, I look like everybody you see from wales

I've been to wales like a bunch of alex joneses are walking around the point is I would don't go to wales jewish You think you you gained some point on me by saying fine. I am jewish 100 percent. I'm ashkenazi from russia Okay, it's not true. But believe it. You're a better man than me now. I get it. You could kick my butt, right? Could you build a media empire by yourself? Could you do everything I did? You're better than me. I know you said you were because you said I wasn't you Don't go to wales bigger that don't take brain force. That made you tough. The difference is the stuff I say is true I did do the things I said I did so this is brain. Wow. This is that is fucked up I tried I've listened to that like three times and I've really tried to parse exactly what he's saying

About being called a jew and I can't I can't put a nail in it. I don't know I have no idea what he's saying. I don't know what he's going for. I don't know what he's mad about I think I think well, I know what he's mad about He's mad about people saying that he works for israel and his Zionists chill right and he's they they're lying because he's not Frank didn't say that no he's responding to uh criticism of david duke Well And you know things that people put on his message boards, you know comments that he gets that he no, I mean frank Oh frank is calling to talk about how alex was

mischaracterizing david duke and the two of them seem to have some uh beef right so Of course alex gets mad that some people in the white supremacist movement called him a jew now Consider that makes perfect sense consider that brain force is sold as a focus and attention supplement This is a this is a commercial against brain force But also I don't like that you were saying that you don't like how he says jew and I do not like that's a hard J it is a not not a good way to put it but then also the thing is No matter what he's saying about people trying to score points on him by accusing him of being jewish He's still playing into the game of being called a jew is negative

And that's true. That's not that is exactly like I I didn't see that Uh because I assumed that like it's so ridiculous to think that Being called a jew would matter. Yeah, right? So of course that doesn't even cross my brain in his world though. That is an insult. Yeah, they are trying to smear him Yeah by calling him a jew. It's very very and not not not because they're racist, but because oh man Very weird. That's fucked up. Yeah, that's fucked up. The call is not done. Don't go to wales. No Don't go to wales. Uh, so the call's not done and uh, he's going to get back to frank frank's gonna get back on the line

And when he does He uh decides to hip alex up on a little bit of new lingo. Oh, that's going on Oh, no, and this is the beginning alex you ever hear about this and we're It's the beginning of some of the uh the seeds of the alt right rise that we have seen So I just find the black races the mexican races the white races It's all about how somebody stole something from them so they can feel like they're better than everybody else And say everybody else is a crook. Well, I'm not a crook to quote nixon

Two things don't quote nixon nixon was a crook don't quote nixon in that context. He was lying Yeah, you're to quote a lie I'm lying but then also that's a hundred percent true But then the the other thing is he's like these black racists these hispanic racists white racists all think that something's been stolen from them Your whole body of products that you sell is based on the globalists stealing your vitality. Yep You are the worst In terms of this. Yeah, it's the problem is it's race They've it's not globalist the globalists have taken our sovereignty, right?

They've taken our vitality through the water and shit. They're destroying the free market They're taking it away from us But that like but that being his angle of attack is is incredibly silly like that's his complaint about racists Anyway, so there's my rant on that subject Frank Frank and I and I've actually been thinking about getting david duke on the show I think it would make for good radio. He's better than you Frank. Maybe I could get some of the Kkk people to ask themselves a couple questions. Why does the left worship? The kkk's icon margaret singer because she wasn't that

Because there's a lovely interesting question to ask the kkk And I know everybody wants to stay at the level they're at but I'm here To actually get people to think and come together. Nope Does that mean you should have your culture overwritten and be forced to do it? No Does that mean I'm mad at black separatists or white separatists wanting to have their own lives? No, that's your right I understand your view I respect it But

The globalists want to set each other's throats and we don't need that I'm gonna skip this network break Only to all the other callers but frank you got about two three minutes. Go ahead Yeah, thanks. Um, yeah, I think that's a really good idea to have david duke on. I think it would make for great radio If nothing else, I don't think he's a white supremacist I know he was just a grand dragon and then I agree grand dragons are not white supremacists 40 years ago 40 years ago or something. That's a long time ago You know, I think there's a lot of people out there that probably aren't proud of things they did 30 40 years ago Or maybe I've had a change

Listen being a grand dragon is the same thing as being a loraza chapter leader. I'm not judging him for it at all My point of view though I've got to go with the hand that I've been dealt and I think white men need to stand up for themselves and and stop being cut You know, I'm sure you're familiar with this new term cut servitive Because we are under attack from every freaking direction even traders I would consider them traders in our own race And uh, I don't like that white men are gonna like that at all themselves. That's just a reality It's just a reality white men are gonna have to stand up for themselves

Cook Oh, yeah, this is this is dark. This is dark. Shit. And alex is not repudiating really any of the things he says No, no, he's agreeing with everything other than the you're missing the forest for the trees. Yeah, it's like, yeah All that's true. But yeah, yeah, no white men do white men do need to stand up for themselves But against the globalists. Yeah. Yeah. And god If you say race trader, I hate you. Yeah, I hate you. Yeah, I hate you so much. It's a real bad term Because that the

Again that implies that race is a team. Yep. No, it doesn't imply that. No. Well, yeah, you're right That's pretty explicit. It says it's a team. Yeah, it says white people are all in this together. Yep instead of people Yeah, or even Countries Anything. Yeah, any other grouping of people white people. Yeah race because I was born with this skin color means that I have to follow along with like and it's the best skin color

Yeah, how arbitrary is that for bigotry? I I mean, it's silly to take a step back and look at it Racism is so fucking stupid. It's it's mind-boggling to really to really like get into your head and just think You know what? I bet it's skin color I bet that's what does it. Well, the problem with modern day racism is that there is such a deep history of Debunked scientific theories right around race that a lot of people who don't really who aren't very smart might have Some beliefs that date back to like phrenology exactly like that They think that it's really smart versions of like no no black iqs are way lower and stuff like that right they have smaller brains

Shit like that. So It's like it's like if somebody starts if somebody says the problem is we've gone too far from people just dealing with the reality that it is Oh, this is based on aesthetics. Yeah, you know, you hate you hate people who look different. Yeah, just say that Yeah, that's fine. You're a tribal fuck. I mean, it's horrific But at least that's better than you being like no you see it's fast twitch muscle fiber That's why black people are better at basketball. It's like no, fuck you. You're an idiot Yesh, uh, so we have one more clip in this call and uh, then we will move on to greener pastors for a minute But uh, here we go and all I know is the whole

White supremacist crowd just says the same stuff over and over again And I get at a certain paradigm level from their perspective I understand what they're saying. It's just that I'm not a traitor to life and the globalists have a master plan to divide and conquer and control us And I think somebody should expose the master plan. Does it mean? That if you grow up and you get attacked as a white person and told your bad and physically attacked because you're white Does it mean it's some primitive instinctive level? You don't want to go join other white people that have been abused and get it Black people do the same thing it it the rhetoric is so close to each other. It's ridiculous. Meanwhile

The eugenicists have a plan to bring all of our communities down They are the enemy And I want to hear from somebody like david duke who's so close ideologically to the left When it comes to things like plan period. I mean, I want to have a real discussion with dr. Duke about all of that I appreciate your call. I appreciate your call when I get up here and talk about Beating up drag rats or something. It's not me thumping my chest acting tough. It is it is an explosion for being on air for three hours Frustrated by all this Frustrated so the call is over, but alex is not done

I could never have guessed that the next clip here is his aftermath from this call and he thinks that he's above racism and I don't really know what his point is in this but it's it doesn't sound good You know so many white supremacists are like we need to keep abortion around here with the black people and you You write that in comments on info wars and all the rest of it Would you really take a one-year-old black baby and beat his brains out? I mean because that's what we're talking about here No I mean, you're just like khaled Muhammad. How do you hate khaled Muhammad saying kill all the white babies?

But then you want to kill the black babies and i'm not saying you frank, but My gut my soul recoils from that. I don't need to read it in a book or know it intellectually even though I do to know that's not good I'm not gonna get ahead Posing as a liberal and making sure a Planned Parenthood gets built in the black neighborhood when I go around and Basically talk about how much I hate black people at night while I live off the government And I have seen all these liberal white racist I've seen how they live. I see how they operate. They're snakes and the black leaders they bought off are even worse

They hate black people And I will not sit here and kick people around and feel good about myself sitting there stomping on members of the human family It's disgusting And yes, they are winding up the black people on average to act like complete idiots And if you're being approached by five racist black thugs They'll want to physically attack you They come after you pull your gun out and shoot them same thing if the klan tries to come kill some black family That's why i'm all about guns

Uh I mean tell you it's scary Bunch of big black guys looking at you like they want to kill you because you're white and wanting to rob you and hating your guts But I I'd imagine it's scary back when that would happen to black people. Oh, yeah You mean with a bunch of white people the day before that tomorrow all the days. Yeah all the fucking days that back when is so offensive Yeah, fuck you but then because that suggests that says It doesn't happen now. No, it doesn't happen. It's gone the other direction. Well, I mean like if that says that now Black people are oppressing white people. Well, but if he wants to just literally talk about, you know, black folk

You know, we just had the flando castillo video come out. It's horrifying. Yeah I don't need to read a book to know that that shit's fucking Murder And then I mean if you look at just if you want to extrapolate further because I know that he doesn't like moslems either There was that young girl who got kidnapped outside a mosque and beaten to death. Yep Just recently just like last week or so and they're saying it's not a hate crime. It was a road rage incident Which is great. Sure a road rage incident wherein you killed a 14 year old muslim girl What kind of road rage would wind up with you beating a 14 year old girl to death? I don't know. I don't know

I don't know. I don't know what kind of a fucking monster. Yeah, it's terrible There was also a mosque that was just burned down the other day Uh, I mean not the other day it was like a little while back But the guy just got charged with it He uh, and some buddies went in and wanted to find out if the mosque was heavily armed So they snuck in after hours to try and find guns in the mosque because they were convinced that uh, you know, all mosques Obviously are military centers and what have you radicalizing and then they burned it down In an arson, you know, I mean like the idea that these things are in the past

Are cockamamie. They're nonsense. No and alex is he betrayed his really offensive racists in that last Uh that clip at the beginning. He's like If you're a racist, are you willing to beat a one year old black baby to death? Yeah, because that's what we're talking about That's not what we're talking about You don't have to do that to be one of the worst racists possible All you have to do is deny that racism exists Yeah, you have to live your life in such a in such a way as to deny the The validity of people who are expressing their reality and just the fucking fetish

fetishization of guns man, he loves them He loves guns like loves them and the and but and and it it's again. It's that like fantasy It's that white dude fantasy. Mm-hmm I get to be justified in killing somebody. That's what they really want. It's the good guy with a gun Really want to be that good guy with a gun. They want to kill somebody. Yeah, that's what they want totally That's literally the goal to be fair. That's a fantasy. I had sort of when I was like 13 Yeah, but it wasn't sword, but it wasn't kill. No, it wasn't even kill It was I wanted to be in a righteous fight

Oh, yeah, I wanted to get into a fight like standing up for somebody Right, like I wanted to be in a place where I could just unload and get violent But I was doing it because the other person was the villain right and Alex hasn't grown out of that No, so we got a little bit left to go here. Uh, sorry that call took up a lot of time, but it it's important Uh, the call overdrive isn't done He takes another call from somebody who explains to him that he's fulfilling biblical prophecy Uh, which is nonsense. Wait Alex's or the caller is the caller says that Alex is Oh, well, that's gonna really help out his fucking Jesus complex

He's explained well, you can see him almost like looking like he's gonna cry As the caller tells him this and the caller explains that the prophecy is because Alex Jones has sources backing him up and he's not a liar like everyone else And I would I would ask that guy to look at Alex's sources I would ask that guy to read the bible. I'd ask that guy to get back on his meds Uh, but he gets a caller towards the end of his overdrive Uh, who asks him about trump and so here's what Alex has to say about trump on august 14th In the fourth hour of his three-hour show paul and then groovy paul in new mexico. You're on the air

Yeah, Alex, I'll try to be as quick as I can. I just wanted to throw out some points Uh, you can put a timer on me or whatever two minutes or whatever, but and I'll let you know when i'm done I just wanted to throw out some stuff for you. Well, then why do I just agree with you as far as Giving thred trump the benefit of the doubt because I don't feel our country Has the time this could be the last election and that's like going into a casino I'd rather place my bets on ran paul, you know, uh, I feel he was like a two to one a two to one odd versus a on the ruler wheel Placing my hundred one bet on trump. I don't feel care. Um, trump has any character. Um, okay, and um

Let's just spend our time and money at races that we can win, you know, I mean and like you're saying the other time, but um I feel trumps. They say I think try trumps real popular because he He's an outsider. That's why people feel he's an outsider. He's not a career politician. Um, but uh Actually, I feel he's an insider He's actually an insider of the globalist to sabotage All the other candidates for figuring that out Um, as far as that goes, I wrote down a bunch of stuff. I'm a little nervous. No, I think you're listen You're probably right and when I say benefit of the doubt, it doesn't mean I'm endorsing him. I've said ran paul

it means that We'll see what he ends up doing Yeah Does that make sense? He you know, he's blackmailable, you know, we don't want anybody like that. I mean, you know, I mean you're telling Well, I think you mentioned Alex the things Alex tells you eloquent points And I think you're right That if you look at his past and what he's done you judge a tree by its fruits

And he is a casino owning Shark and a big slumlord And you look at how rents are exploding and the new world order economy The whole thing's not pretty but you have to defend him because what he's now saying is true. So in that office Of saying things that are true. You got to say what trump saying is true That's why it's catching on the other candidates should be saying it as well Just more smoothly. He's dumb. Everybody should say the things he's saying but smarter. Yeah, uh, but also

I mean, he calls him a slumlord. He calls him a shark Casino owning shark, but you gotta those ideas man those vaccines right that bigotry is real good It's good stuff. So that's where he leaves off on the 14th. We're going to be covering one more day Okay, and there's not a whole lot to cover necessarily, but the 14th was a friday and uh sunday august 16th comes around And as I've mentioned in past episodes, my experience is that sundays are for Doing a trial balloon the new the new narrative the new narrative see how the new narrative sticks on sundays

And I'll just play you the beginning of august 16th 2015 Well, I'm ready to say it on this sunday 16th day of august 2015 worldwide broadcast I'm ready to say it right now I may have been wrong about donald trump Because he is doing things right now politically He is engaging in activities That are not what a scripted controlled candidate would do. He is causing the clinton crime machine irrevocable

harm On an absolutely massive scale Now I've said I've given him the benefit of the doubt because he's supported both parties in the past and owns casinos and Has his own list of problems and it's been part of wwe wrestling, but I've got friends that have been part of that And we we're right to not just trust people that are Long-term politicians like donald trump people think he's an outsider. He's a consummate insider To a certain point. He's made his money though off the service economy And off of real estate and off of products

Not off of central banking like the globalist in that statement right there He contradicted his own knowledge from past episodes that we've seen. Yep. He has said before he's a frontman for consortiums And he doesn't make his money off of service stuff. He doesn't make his money off the free market He's part of the mob. Yep. Alex Is making his pivot This is the turn right here. Yeah, so now he's are we say is he full-throated? I don't think so But I don't think so turning point. What happened on the 16th. This is the trial balloon Uh, he's going to get to it a little bit in the in the next couple or what happened in the

Earlier a couple of days. I would I would guess let's uh, let's get through the clips because it'll it'll sort of come out And then I will give you my synthesis. Okay, uh, but here's the next one where he talks about how right he is all the time I'm gonna say it right here on air I am rarely Wrong in a big way Very rarely Bullshit, but sometimes I am All the time

I mean, I get dates wrong and sometimes say a guess name wrong or that's what we're all mad about That's right on my head. We all do that in a busy world. I'm teleprompter free I sometimes you can write news articles. You're gonna have typos and problems sometimes This isn't all you know written up prefab. This is research. This is passion. That's why pencils have a world understanding, but It is unscripted. So there's mistakes, but I rarely fundamentally mis gauge major geopolitical movements and national movements Because I've been doing this 23 years on air over 20

And I've learned who the players are who the different clubs are who the different power structures are And in the last 20 plus years, it's been the same group of players Several different camps, but globalists all the same So we're not getting too much information there about that's nothing Well, he's just saying that he's never saying he's the rightest person there ever was right, but sometimes he's wrong He's a man enough To stand up and say I got the date wrong that one time but even though that stuff is deflectionary bullshit

This is unlike alex. This is unlike alex the idea that he is undoing all of this All of this stuff. He's been saying for the last two months is very weird And it's very abrupt It is really abrupt because he ended the 14th show which was friday. No show on saturday He ended it saying negative things about trump. Yeah still giving him the benefit of the doubt But he's a huckster. He's a liar Slumlord all of this stuff and even though like the the trajectory that we've seen hasn't been

Hasn't been flat and then there was a change today There's been there's been some little motion of like I just uh, he's a distraction and we don't even want to talk about him sure like I listen. Let me tell you. He's a mob. He's mobbed up. Yeah to like well I like what he's saying, but he's the bad guy saying this shit about john mccain in order to tank the poles Obviously, right. He's a shell right consistent thread is i'm certain. He's a shell or I know things about him And uh, the this is this is very jarring right but we're gonna get to what he has to say He has a statement. He wants to make but first we gotta pay the bills

Gotta do a little bit of a supermail vitality commercial that really spells out what that product's about The effects are different for different people, but the big one everybody notices Is uh, what happens in the morning when you wake up by 6 a.m and i'm just telling you that I'll just be honest with people I don't need sea alice or viagra, but as a man 41 years old, you know, I Once the doctor had a check up a year ago or whatever and they just say you want some I said sure i'll try it

And I have bottles of both sea alice and viagra that I never used. I'll just be honest I mean I use a few Doesn't have the effect super mail does And I don't need super mail either. It's just it takes it to the next level Uh, and let's not be a bunch of kids here if you're like, oh my gosh, he's talking about you know, libido pills That's just no Idea of what it does for everything else. It's like, oh the boner is a metaphor. Yeah, what are you talking about? You're gonna have a mind boner the boner is a metaphor. Yeah, that's nonsense

So basically it's a dick pill totally. Yeah, we can put that or a dropper. Yeah, we can put that to bed Yeah, any concerns that it's not. Yeah, and the women's version is the very similar apparently just with horny goat weed Yeah, it's it's better for alex somehow. Yeah, somehow he gets a bigger harder dick from the woman's version Yeah, so here we go. He this is the last clip I have this is basically his statement on trump where he's at on august 16th And he does for dropping in the dick thing for me. I know I know you did that for me Not just for you. I know you did that for the listeners too. You wanted to make me feel good before this Well, I mean one of the pieces of our investigation is to like what are these things he's selling right? And our our long-term contention that it's a boner pill and to use the word properly

That was our penultimate clip. Yep. And here is he gets to what changed his mind a little bit Uh, and then when we get on the other side of it, I'll lament uh, why he's still not telling the truth Here's what's going on with donald trump He goes back to the founding of our country. Why do we have three branches of government? Because the founders knew that cliques gangs strongmen napoleon bonaparte types hitler types king george types william the conqueror types julie

I'd like to point out that within the last week of uh, these episodes in the timeline alex jones has unfair uh, unfavorably compared donald trump to both All of those guys do all of those Caesar types conqueror types would try to come in There was one branch they could take it over But if you set up other people in control of other powerful branches They would tend to compete with each other and use the constitution as checks on the other

And that because we have three centers of government That would not allow a dictatorship to form now the bureau How sad is it that in hindsight his analysis is right and why we're fucked? And in hindsight how sad is it that alex jones now spends all of his time attacking the judiciary? The only branch of the government that isn't under the sway of a the crazy out of control, uh, g.o.p. Yep, how well hey hey come on Don't forget They control the supreme court also. No not control. There's still some issues. We'll see how it plays out

Uh, I don't know it's not looking good if we're hoping that anthony kennedy is gonna help us out here Come on guys roger stone has announced that he knows that uh, there's another supreme court opening about to happen Oh, really? Yeah, but roger stone's gonna kill anthony kennedy. Yeah, that's probably it He's gonna give him polonium from his own blood All right, they're gonna make out accuracy on the cia above the law and the national security act of 47 And the media being bought off by big corporations. That's kind of been checked But not check made it but still it acts

And somebody like donald trump. It's got four plus billion dollars tens of billions and other assets Who makes this money off having a rich economy? Nope off people vacationing people buying products people buying nice condos houses He gets hurt by the economy shutting down the fact that he has to say make america great again It shows how much freedom we've lost and that we really know we're in a long cold depression And he speaks to that he says look our borders are wide open. We don't have a good negotiators Everybody can come here and have babies for free and criminals can come here. It's wrong I'll turn things around I'll cut taxes about 40 percent. That's all true. That would work if he's for real not for you

He'll cut him off after hillary clinton the rest of it clearly now for whatever reason They thought it was a joke at first And he still may be blackmailed. It may be a setup. But listen, he could be president now He is the hands-down frontrunner If ran if he would work with someone like rand paul that bring in a lot of anti-war democrats um He better not double cross people or I tell you he is gonna be in big trouble He will be boycotted people will come after him politically, but regardless

He's going after the clinton's now, which is a big deal. Let's go ahead and go to one of these clips But it's the separation of powers trump wants to be president And there's been a lot of leaders in history that weren't perfect, but they wanted to have a big powerful country under him That's more like a boss hog management instead of wanting everybody poor to control him boss hog was not the hero The trump type doesn't want a bunch of poor people under him. He wants wealthy people He wants success. He is a capitalist at the end of the day

He's totally different than you know, a barack obama and a cloward and piven Let's bankrupt people and make them dependent on us I'm not lying. I'm saying he's perfect Again, he says arrest snowed and executing. He's a traitor He's got some major problems, but it's night and day and it shows how the country's upset Let's go to this first clip. We'll come back with the rest This is trump on clinton emails saying she has a criminal problem. This is bold folks He this means he's really going after him

He's really running for president because this just won't get him in the lead Which he's already in the lead and and and then he can drop out later for hillary This will destroy her if he gets on board with all his supporters calling for criminal prosecution Because it'll make it safe for other people to do it. Then there's nowhere for her to hide. This is epic. Here's the clip He said the virgin girls are not a general election problem. She said her emails are not it's a partisan concern. Is she wrong about that? It's a criminal problem and it's going to be a very serious problem It's going to be about as serious as it gets if you look at general katraeus, and he was destroyed over a much lesser event So I think he wasn't very big but these emails were mark classified, hers were not

Well, I think some of hers were and it seems like they took a lot of markings off I mean somebody has got a big problem, but it looks like it's similar Any worry republicans could overplay their hand on this So that's what happened Trump said a couple negative things about hillary clinton Trump That's it wanted to jail hillary. That's pretty much it. That's it Yeah, that's the big thing

That's what that's what that's what happened over the weekend Yeah, that's all that's all alex needed was somebody to come out and say let's put hillary clinton in jail basically But I actually think it's much bigger than this. Well, you would have to Well, I I think that it turns out our theories are both kind of correct because this is very close after the first debate Right now maybe the first debate didn't get him on board with trump, but it opened the door a little bit And I don't have the I don't have the exact audio of it, but even on this episode. He's still saying I'm not endorsing him I just think that he is a serious candidate now that he's spoken out against clinton's okay So he's not fully on board

But I know what's gonna happen the thought the thought that he was having the reason that he was holding back was because he thought that The real the real reason was because he thought that trump was owned by the clinton's Yes Now that he knows trump wants to put hillary clinton in jail Yeah to pander to pander to a base exactly. He doesn't really want to do that. No nobody. Yeah. Well, I mean, maybe he could now I don't know. I don't know But so so by by getting rid of that

All of his other objections were bullshit. They weren't though. No. No. No. No. I mean For him. Well, they were just they were just rationalization They don't matter as much as how much he hates hillary clinton exactly He hates her so much right based on lies that larry nickles has told him right But the thing is oh and internalized misogyny, but Like internalized more like just externalized. Well, it certainly comes out. Yeah, but um The thing is I know I know exactly what's gonna happen now

Once I oh the other thing is uh, the like he's okay with the idea that trump may lead us to fascism Yeah, because he hates hillary clinton. Totally fine with that. I like I said, I would I would actually say that that was During during the race. I think most republicans would have agreed with that. Yeah, they might not have said I would rather have fascism than a woman president Well, it's not even just a woman president. Well, uh hillary clinton the woman that we've heard so many lies about right exactly. Um Like I can predict 100 what's gonna happen now because alex has now opened the door Then the door is dangerous. Mm-hmm The door was being held shut by his concern that trump was a shill

For the clinton's right that specific fear that he's just there to torpedo rand paul right Now that he has publicly done this trial balloon on this sunday show what's going to happen is Now that roger stone isn't part of the campaign. He's going to show up and kick that door wide open He's going to use alex. So roger stone is not part of the trump campaign right now. No And he's not involved in info wars at all alex jones is going to be used like a fucking puppet by these people a very willing puppet But it's going to be the harshest exploitation we've ever seen

It's going to be a combination of forces The the like my prediction that it's the it's the pechenics and the roger stones that get him on board with trump Right and your prediction that it's just after the camp the first debate are both. I think are going to be accurate And it bums me the fuck out. Yeah I don't like the idea that what led to everything is just hatred of hillary clinton Because that's fucking boring for me. Yeah, but you know that that is I mean, that's boring, but that's also Really the only conclusion that you can draw Like that wouldn't have been in my first couple of even suspects when we first started

I mean of the whole election. Oh, yeah That's really the big one. Yeah, but like you can you can say alex jones's mainstream as fuck Yeah, like he thinks he's on some sort of external. I'm above the fray. I'm into deep cover stuff Hey, just say it's hillary. Yeah, he's as bad as anybody in any conservative media outlet Yep, he's as bad as anyone on fox news. He's as bad as anybody's he's as weak. He's as uh, Lame in terms of what drives him So it it bums me out if it was really fucking chimeras or something like that How fun would that be? Yeah, if it turns out that that was his sticking point

Like maybe trump says something about chimeras in a speech. Oh, that would have been great And that's the turning point see that would have been perfect. That would have been amazing. Yeah, but it's just Trump ambivalently said that hillary clinton has a criminal problem Right. He didn't even say it that forcefully in that interview. Nope And that interview is terrible. That's very bad audio and it's very short and they kept saying Yeah, this is before they kept saying locker up too. Yeah, that's before that's part of the whole That's part of the whole thing. Yep. And the other thing is uh on this uh sunday show the 16th Uh, a lot of his callers haven't caught up with the narrative yet. A lot of them are still

Doing the uh, no, he's a shill They're mirroring his past Dialogue as opposed to what he's already shifted the narrative to right so his callers appear way smarter than him in hindsight There's there are a bunch of people who are calling in. There's like he's saying this about the clintons As they're it's still they're still working together, right? It's the same thing as when he said that barack obama's birth certificate was fake He was working with them because then they released the fake birth certificate The other for it fake birth. It's like right. It's convoluted nonsense logic But at least his callers are not at least but it's it's fascinating to see like

They haven't picked up and I guarantee within a scant week or so They will have Downloaded the new operating system. Oh for sure and they will be following exactly what he says, right? And it's not because he screams calls obviously Obviously not we've seen the kind of people who get through. Yep. Uh, it It's because his listeners are so malleable. They're so stuck in believing whatever he says That it doesn't matter. Trump is a shill. Trump is a slumlord. Trump is mob connected He's a pipe piper who could lead the alt right not even called that at this point

But the tea party folks the patriots he could lead us to fascism All that stuff is being mirrored back to him by callers. Uh, he shifts the narrative They go right back. Yep. They're gonna follow him. That's that's This this thing like it's so much The the exact Fun of conspiracy theories like you and I both were like fuck. Maybe there's something there. Maybe there's some investigation Because I'm sure there's gonna be I'm sure there's gonna be more than just but this pivot Yeah, this pivot is the thing that bums both of us out super bummer because

How much better a world or how much more fun a world do we live in? Where it is like a blackmail thing or something like that. This is a microcosm of conspiracy theories Yeah, you do some research and you find out it's not nearly as exciting as you'd hoped No, but it does speak to underlying societal issues much like most conspiracy theories do. Yeah Um, I still think a hundred percent that the fact that roger stone hasn't shown up yet means he probably shows up very soon I would say he probably shows up real soon and roger stone hates hillary clinton and has forever He hates the clinton's insanely I predict larry nickles is gonna show up real soon again. He's been absent from the program for a bit

I I predict that now all of these uh, these anti clinton influences will congeal And they will start using alex as their mouthpiece tricking him in some ways to not Really Be anti clinton they'll shift it to pro trump. Right. I mean i'm sure roger stone knows Like you can listen to alex a couple times and know basically how to Trick him right roger stone is a manipulative guy who's been around for decades doing it Yeah, he could listen to a couple episodes

He manipulated a tattoo artist into tattooing nixon on his back But he could find like a couple things that he knows he can sweet talk alex with and once alex has opened the door that like Maybe trump is for real. I gotta get in there. Yeah, this is going to be our pr campaign Yep, this is going to be our pr machine. I'm not no longer with the trump campaign. This is how I can serve the interests best It's still I think a conspiracy, but it's not nearly what I wanted it to be. No I'm sorry dan. It's all right. It wasn't chimeras this time I accept reality, but at the same time this investigation time is not closed not yet Because he's still not he's still not on trump 2.0 1776 all over again. Yeah, he's not on

He's george washington come back. Yeah, so we do still need to figure out and I think it's probably gonna happen pretty quick I think so too I think our next episode might have him turning into uh, the false prophet as it were right, but uh, I mean, we'll see We'll see I mean There there's so many different things about that like This election, uh Is going to be one of the most studied things in history. Yeah um

For all so many so many different reasons Like it's one of the most fascinating like if it weren't going to end the world It would be super fascinating to read about it. Like whenever our fish people, uh, uh progenitors or progeny um Study the the mistakes that led to their creation or the onanaki come back. Yeah, exactly It's it's going to be like Maybe one of the biggest things that the democrats it not not like a

Sanders woulda won or or any of that narrative or you know, they didn't talk to the people they didn't go campaign in minnesota or Michigan or wisconsin or something like that Maybe it really is the democrats just underestimated how much people fucking hate hillary clinton. Yeah, like personally not not Like as much of misogyny as a part of the hate of hillary clinton It's metastasized beyond that certainly like you can hate women. Yeah, but they hate hillary clinton Yeah, and and misogyny is a piece of it and it's worth being discussed But it it's not it's not like the people who hate her hate her because she's a woman. It's a woman. It's incidental

It it let I think I think what it is is it led to it was the beginning of the hate for her Yes, like that misogyny was we need to hate somebody and hillary is an outspoken woman Next to the president who we hate so much and everybody was claiming that she was the one calling the shots Exactly, they did the whole thing. They kept building these narratives around her Which are easy to push because of that misogyny. That's a great point and then the misogyny goes Just kind of sits in the background because now you have oh she murdered vince foster. What the fuck are you talking about? But all of these people hate hillary clinton. Yeah, like I

comparatively speaking I would say that they like if there was a If it was that if it was elizabeth warren. Mm-hmm. She has a better chance Because they don't hate her Personally no the same way that they hate hillary clinton personally trump would have a field day with it still like calling her pocahontas And what have you but it wouldn't stick nearly as hard. No because she's not hillary clinton. Yeah, that's the thing that they hated I think they just underestimated how much people hate her I think that's a big part of it and I think ben gazi to the fallout of ben gazi

Is going to be maybe a hint a hinge in history I think because of everyone thinking that she Was running guns and killed chris stevens, right? Like I think that that might be the turning point in terms of What fucked everything? Yeah, like if that if that propaganda campaign about Ben gazi didn't happen It's hard to say if the hatred of her would have been as fresh Right because a lot of those other scandals are so deep in the past

And a lot of them are pretty easy to debunk right like a lot of those clinton body bags Shit is all right. You can go one through one one for one through all of those murders alleged murders And you know debunk a bunch of them. Yeah, almost all of them Yeah, and the other ones are just suspicious circumstances that certainly are not evidence of murder right arkansides I'm really bummed out. Yeah. Anyway, I'm glad that you brought. I'm glad that you brought arkansides back I still think that's a pretty good one. I also still think larry nickles is about to make an appearance But we'll see next time but until then you can check out our website. It's uh at Knowledge underscore fight on twitter. That's true

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No, I mean I wanted I wanted something other than the most basic ass explanation Yeah, because like When we started this investigation Someone I could have had a conversation with somebody and they were they'd be like Oh, he clearly just hated hillary clinton. Yep. I'd be like there's probably more to it than that And then we find all this weird stuff about him talking shit on trump And it seems like there's going to be something and it's just now trump talked shit about hillary clinton. He's like I like that I like that. That is so silly. Yeah, we could have just assumed and been correct

Right, at least we kind of know that but I mean again, you're right They're still investigating to do we don't know why he became a cheerleader But yeah, leave leave review on itunes that says leave a five star review that says dan We hope you feel better someday and we're on facebook if you want to join up Follow us on facebook. I've been starting to put a few things on there. Oh, yeah And I thank everybody who has already started to like us and follow us. We need more dan I know you I know you've just taken some really really bad news. Yeah, I know you've taken it hard I have some good news for you though. Oh, please anything. Um, I I

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