Knowledge Fight - #60: Mars Colonies

Episode Date: July 3, 2017

Dan is sick of all the nonsense about a guest on The Alex Jones Show talking about secret Mars Colonies, so he calls an audible and changes the format of the show. The reason that Alex and his guests get to feign credibility is because they speak about things like Mars Colonies very non-specifically. But what happens when you take one of their non-specific claims and pay close attention to it? In this case, you end up learning a whole lot about a super soldier/Mars warrior.

Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding So Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes I like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. There's a twist to it though There is which is one we Switch off on buying Smooth start. Thank you. That's the big list right lost. That's the big twist. Yeah, that is I guess you've been fucking scaring me with the preview for this like you're your your first words are this might be very very fun

Or you might be furious. What am I supposed to do? I don't know. I'm already shook Well, you could introduce our beverage for the day because this is your choice. It is Stubborn soda agave vanilla cream soda. How does that? How does that taste you're based? That's pretty good. I Don't know. What do you want me to say? It's pretty good. I don't know. I want a better review tastes like vanilla It's good. It's good. It tastes like cake frosting, but liquid. Okay now I think I know what the next part is the next twist. Yeah, you know a lot about Alex. That is correct And you don't know anything. I don't know anything about Alex. Let me tell you what we're gonna be talking about today You know even less about which is very exciting for me like I like Jordan alluded to I told him

Before the taste like I'm drinking a vanilla candle or a cake. Yeah, it's like it's like frost. It's intense. It's weird. Yeah Before the show I told Jordan that today we're gonna be doing something a little bit different. Here's why Alex Jones has been pretty reckless and being pretty violent in the current day and I don't want to talk about that, right? It's kind of boring and I also don't want to Feed into or really even dissect the CNN tapes that project Veritas is putting out Because they're just so obviously Manipulative the edited it it's pointless yet. He's James O'Keeffe. He lied. Yeah, he's a monster. He's been discredited repeatedly in the past and

Been sued repeatedly successfully the fact that he's even still in the news that somebody that somehow people are still paying attention To him is such a disappointing. Well, it's because he reinforces the narratives that other people wish were true, right? But I mean come on anybody could do that just and a massive amount of like Koch brothers or Mercer funding That's true. So he has tons and tons of money Let's make sure billionaires control our world like the most recent video he put out was about Zooker the head of CNN He's like Okay, here's here's the video. I've already I've already taken you off track. I don't want to talk about the CNN videos All right, fuck it. We're getting into it. Well, the most recent one is legitimately James O'Keeffe outside of Zooker's house

All right, and he's like trying he has his microphone and he's like, hey, what about these tapes that I've been putting out basically to Zooker as He walks and enters a car and then O'Keeffe's like what a coward All right, dude, just tweet at him That's about as good as you're gonna then they reveal that they've been staking out in front of his house to get his morning routine down All right, they're stalking him basically see now. I'm on board. This is something that we should adopt right there Okay, don't fucking don't fucking go to your congressman's house right find a billionaire Get a thousand ten thousand people and just sit around outside their house legitimately if we had enough money

We could find out where Alex Jones's studio is I mean it wouldn't be that hard We could employ the exact same tactics and when he's like, hey, why are you following me around? I'm like, I'm a journalist. That's true. Why are you talking my questions Alex? That'd be fine. Yeah, give us money I assume we'd get shot right. We would totally get shot. Yeah, he fills his hands self-defense. Yeah, oh great All right, so the other thing is we're currently in the middle of an Alex Jones distraction. Yes, which is whenever I Don't know exactly what the there's no through line exactly why he does the things he does Brain damage brain damage and money brain damage and money, but every now and again something will pop up and it'll be Look over here. Look over here. It's the it's the red sheet to the charging bowl of truth

Right like truth is about to smack Alex Jones right in the face that he's been lying about a bunch of stuff And he gets the red cape out and distracts the bowl and it goes and chases that right this week at the Trump form of government Right at the end of last week He had Robert David Steele on as a guest who we've discussed in the past when he came on and was saying that Trump needs His own propaganda TV network. Of course. He was the guy who came on and was like Alex I need you to talk to Trump for me. I have a list of suggestions. He needs to read. That's fantastic You you don't remember that guy. No, all right. Are you sure we talked we talked about him for sure Was he on the one with the the DC guy who is?

No, no, it was it was not the Dennis Montgomery stuff No, he we just talked about him for a little bit because he was Basically saying that they need massive election reform in order to like make a lot of suppression and He is a lot of destruction of democracy is a lot of really bad ideas But he came on the show at the end of last week on Thursday and he dropped this nugget Let me see what Robert David Steele has to say go ahead No, I agree with that and let me just point out Now let me just point out that pedophilia does not stop with sodomizing children

It goes straight into terrorizing them to adrenalize their blood and then murdering them It also includes murdering them so that they can have their bone marrow harvested as well as body parts He don't feel yet is this is the original growth hormone Yes, yes, it's an anti-aging thing and and uh, this makes my listeners way out But we actually believe that there is a colony on mars That is populated by children who were kidnapped and sent into space on a 20-year ride So that once they get to mars they have no alternative but to be slaves on the mars colony

Oh, there's all kinds of 90% of the of the of the nasa missions are secret and i've been told by high-level nasa engineers That you have no idea. There's so much stuff going on, but then it goes off into all that I mean, you know, that's the kind of thing the media jumps on but i know this we see a bunch of A mechanical wreckage on mars and people say oh look it looks like you know mechanics They all your conspiracy theorists clearly they don't want us looking into what's happening every time probes go over They turn them off Alex you're one of the most original guys on the air and and i would you ask what should you do

I think you should be the truth channel in america. He can't be he doesn't know how But uh, so alex jones does this he has crazy people on as guests They say ridiculous shit then everyone is like Look at how ridiculous this is right, but then alex plays the card of everyone saying that i said that there's bases on the moon I didn't say that right the play me a clip of me saying that well We played the clip you had a guy who you have vocally said you respect his opinion about and he said it and then your response was Everything that nasa does most of it is secret. There's machine wreckage on mars

You're reinforcing it without actually saying you believe in it. Of course, but it's still all a trap It's all a trap for the media It's all a trap for people who don't like alex jones to like clown on him for mars-based stuff Yeah, i've seen uh, i've seen this this one in particular on the uh on the twitter. Yeah, i saw this one nasa came out and said no Of course that was that yeah That's is it come on like they had a very like they had a very put-upon scientists walk up to a podium Rub his forehead and just go come on guys. Yeah

Why do I have to do this and the only real function that we get out of this this So i mean i think it's always funny when official organizations Uh stoop below their status. Oh, it's fantastic and are like Just shut up that sort of stuff. I always think conceptually that's pretty funny Right, but at the same time by nasa putting out articles about it by people not being really accurate and just making fun of him for it The end result is that people are exposed to alex jones, right? They if they watch that full clip they get to hear him talk about how terrible pedophilia is And that might set off a trigger in them to be like oh this guy's a champion against pedophiles

Right, I need to dig more into this There is a decent chance that people will end up listening to him and being like Oh, he didn't say that there's bases on mars. He was just allowing free speech on his show, right? So there is a negative outcome that can come from falling for this um This bull trick. Well, this this red cape my question is always like what's the end game for the twitter The twitter thing which is amazing how alex can just keep fucking showing up in the world every time Every week it seems like he's somewhere in the on the internet and everybody's laughing at him

And it's like are we are we helping are we yeah? No, I mean no, I mean we could yeah, exactly But no, no it's not doing any good and it's just making it more likely for it because the more you click on it The more they're like oh, well, this is the thing people click on So the more they do that the less likely you are to do anything fucking useful Well, and you're just gonna clown on them all the time everybody thinks like and I appreciate our listeners who engage with stuff Appropriately and in a smart way, but I do get tweets from a lot of people and texts and stuff about how like Do you see this new alex jones meme? Yeah, and I think that there's a mentality that people think that you can just mock him out of existence

Yeah, not realizing that no you can't that's not going to work There's going to need to be a much more uh deliberative focused uh Truth-based uh exposure of what he believes in and who he actually is right? What's hiding behind those silly things is a bigot in the same way that you're fucking everybody's fucking reading Trump's tweet on those two fucks who who gives a shit I hope all of them get fucking hit by a meteor. I don't fucking care like they're assholes, too

He's taking away healthcare and shut the fuck up about his tweets go fucking Fight and making I mean, I'm not going to I'm very scared of the outside Well, and he's actively trying to make it so we can't vote in the future. Yeah, right He's uh, you know, he's destroying the environment taking away healthcare It's going to be super weird how he wins reelection at with 97 of the vote It's going to be crazy and alex jones' response will be like he's a strong leader finally the polls are right Finally they fix the polls So we have that to look forward to

The complete dissolution of democracy so here's the deal I don't want to talk too much about like I just think that it's nonsense And uh, it's not worth discussing most of the stuff that alex is on at the end of last week Uh, like I said at the beginning of the week. He was on vacation Uh, I don't I don't know what's going on. He's living a wildlife la vida loca Did they play life on mars for the coda on that because that's perfect. Nope. They did not I would say They should have anything from that album. Yeah, exactly. So but here's the deal also I as this episode comes out will be getting surgery and I want to treat myself. So

I'm doing I've decided to do a complete audible on this episode and explore Where this idea of bases on mars comes from. All right. Now i'm way fucking in so the rest of this episode now I am way fucking in. Are you kidding me? Yes The rest of this episode will have very little to do with alex jones Okay, but it will have to do with where 90 of our audience just clicked pause and deleted from the itunes app I promise you that this will actually be maybe more entertaining than alex jones uh, so There are a lot of people who believe in

Space bases and what have you there's uh, there's a lot of that community the ufo community is very large and very diverse Right, you can find tons of people who cite far more diverse than alex jones's audience. Totally Yeah, totally. I sure i'm sure there's more than three percent african americans than the ufo. No, maybe not I haven't seen studies, but there are a lot of people who believe, you know A lot of rampant speculation from years past. There's a lot of people who have been fooled by fake documents about stuff And that's all fun. We could do a deep dive into that or we could even do a deep dive into stuff like mufon There's an organization that keeps track of self-reported ufo experiences mufon. Yeah, it's the um Uh multinational ufo network something. I don't I don't remember what it stands for

But they they keep I assumed it was mulan's brother Nope, or mufasa's son mulan the uh the movie that very traumatized mike pence. Yeah. Oh god What oh, why do these people happen? I don't know. I don't eat dinner with anybody other than my wife Or I don't eat dinner with a woman other than my wife mother can't be alone What happened to him? What like if the mutual if he had a radio show His childhood has to have been the most fucked up thing. Yeah, uh, so mufon uh stands for the mutual ufo network All right, it's a non-profit Investigative body. I mean they're just they have a lot of they like have maps of where ufos have been uh cited and stuff like that

Fun. Yeah, they're a good group. Yeah, and we could we could get into all that But so much of that is apocryphal so much of it is basically just hey I saw this and there's no real evidence of that It's I could you know it's as good as uh people writing down their dreams and putting them online right right like okay This is as credible as anything else or ghost hunters. Yeah, that's no fun. No, so I've tried to find some more concrete Uh versions of space base stuff All right, and one of the organ and we're going straight to space command for our first Clip right no, we don't really have uh space command doesn't really come into play because that's a pedestrian title

That's a title that uh All right, the people in the know would never call something space command. All right. That's for alex jones and his ilt. Okay Uh, there is an organization called project camalot And it is run by a lady named carrie callahan and what she does Is what she does carrie callahan Okay, apparently she had a very large inheritance and she started an organization where she has skype interviews with people About their weird experiences. All right, and she's had a ton of interviews with people who uh claim That they were personally involved with a lot of really fucked up stuff sweet

So one of the people that we have mentioned in passing in the past Uh guy by the name of andrew basiago. He's done some interviews with project camalot He is the guy who claims that he as a child was in a time travel program Okay, and he went back to like the gettysburg address He's been uh years in the future like into 2040. He's been he's been to that far in the future All right, he went back millions of years in the past. All right. He was a time traveler He read hgls one time when he was a kid Uh barack obama was in the program with him and the two of them time traveled together now

I've never been happier andrew basiago. Also, I choose to believe that's true. Sure, of course Uh, he also ran for president in 2016 and is running in 2020 So we have that to look forward to all right, uh, he also as I recall is a big proponent of what's his name again Andrew basiago. All right. No longer does anybody say bernie would have won now. We say basiago would have won We could have had basiago. We could have had basiago. Look time travel. We had one time traveler Why didn't we go for two? Also, I would argue if he's a time traveler and he's been to 2040. He would know he would lose that race, right? It seems like well, but maybe he knows that he's going to win the 2020 race

And he just had to get his profile out there in 2016 which clearly he succeeded in seeing us You have no idea who the fuck of course Um, he also believes in stargates. He's big into that. He uh, also has made reference to the fact that he is half dolphin Uh, and He's just throwing it out there. He has super swimming abilities because of it a lot of these stargates Is this is this the stuff he makes up or is are people just No, no, no, I'd be more like are people just asking him leading questions and he just agrees Is he just yes anding every conspiracy theory thrown out of well, you know how andy daily creates characters

Largely is getting in hostile interviews right with you know, scott ockerman or these people on comedy bang bang Ends up creating the robustness of don de mellow. Yes, of course of august lint Yeah, uh, I am guessing that a lot of it is the same methodology god about creating Yeah, these uh, these like yeah stargates are mostly found underwater. That's why they had to make me half dolphin What about chimeras? Are they real? I'm a chimera You fear me alex jones, wait So if he is a chimera and he has been on alex jones, he hasn't been on alex jones Oh, he hasn't got my knowledge. He's been on project cam a lot. All right, but here's the interesting thing

We were texting the other day about how mysterious it is that alex jones never brings up like louis mench Yeah, and how she would be an obvious target for him if he was real He's mad at anybody who's against trump right and so she has created this whole cottage industry online Of being a super against trump and having secret information right seems like alex jones slash Making up information right i realize in hindsight also I'd like to apologize. We haven't been nearly as harsh about her as we should be But it's no at the very beginning. You and I had this very short conversation where you were like, you know We could give her the and i'm sitting there screaming at you. I regret that. Yeah, this is on me. I I gave

I'm not here to say I told you show no, and I didn't I wasn't saying I believed the things she was saying I was saying that she was in a different class of A Commentator yeah lunatic commentator than alex jones right and his time has gone on The proof of the pudding is in the eating and I don't think I stand by my comments No, it seems as though they have become mirror images right and it seems like alex jones should be talking about her a bunch It should be like look at this crazy broad. Yeah, see he hates women Hates people who are against trump. It seems perfect

And the fact that he doesn't make and it's it's one thing where he finally get he could tee off on the lies of the left You know every time these guys are just making yeah Yeah, he could easily do that. But and the fact that he doesn't is a little mysterious to me I'm not sure it means anything control that position. I have no idea but be that as it may He also doesn't ever talk about these people these andrew bazia goes the project camelots Yes, this whole world of stuff and there's also a reason it's because they expose how stupid his ideas are Oh, really? Well, no, I mean not directly. No by their by their words Okay, they expose that the things he's talking about are horseshit. Okay, like andrew bazia go saying he's a half dolphin warrior

It it would Make lunacy of alex jones is there's half Fish people walking around right? It's like hey if there are half fish people walking around you're talking about it I have one of the fish people on your show right because if you do you interview him and you're like, oh no, this guy's Exactly It really showcases that the real world version of the fake shit that alex talks about right is utter garbage project camelot is almost if alex jones is

12th dimensional dreams and lies all suddenly became true like people are larping What alex jones is talking about? Yes. Yeah more or less and uh, so she kerry callahan does this Uh Project camelot. She puts out really long youtube interviews with people And one of the great sort of hallmarks of her interview style is she believes fucking everything Now that's great. She's like like, you know, george nori on coast coast am is very he has a philosophy of never make people feel weird Right and so whenever people call in without lander stories. He's kind of he never is like shut up. You're stupid kerry is like far even farther that she's like, oh totally that's that's fantastic

You say crazy shit and she's like, oh, yeah, of course I want see now that that seems more intellectually honest to me than a fox news interview where they pretend to push back No, totally just a yeah. Fuck. Fuck. Yeah, believe it all. I don't give a shit. I don't have fun I don't have any reason to suspect that she doesn't believe the things she's saying So I I kind of agree with you So she's she's a professional believer Yeah, like what she's paid to do is just believe everything everybody says all the time Yeah, more or less. Love and I don't know if she's getting paid all that much

Quite frankly, although the thing is her videos often have as many views as alex jones' videos online She's and she doesn't she hasn't lost her ad roll either. No, she could be making she could be making bank Everybody had a real serious cut in youtube ad revenues Okay, because they're switching over to that youtube tv format They're shifting into like a lot of fringe stuff and political stuff is getting cut in terms of their ad revenue Gotcha. They're I mean, it's across the board. It's not like alex jones can claim they're trying to censor libertarians But at the same time like the majority report and uh, secular talk those two channels have also had massive cuts In terms of what they were making. Uh, so it you know, who cares gotcha

Carrie callahan project camelot Have done some very interesting interviews over the years and one of them we're going to be discussing today Excellent, uh, but before we do I'd like to read a little bit of her perspective from an interview. She did with sneaky mag Which is a sneaky magazine So all right, all right, let's hear about sneaky mag This is uh, this will give you a good sense of uh, I think this is a good precursor for the interview We're going to be listening to it. I'll start with the interviewer Uh, so what do you think aliens have such an interest in earth or so?

Why do you think they have such an interest in earth? What's so good or special about us? Her answer there are many things on earth They find quite desirable and I have a good number of whistleblowers who have given me information to that effect My whistleblowers are predominantly ex-military Some of whom are still working for the secret government and who have spoken to me off the record The aliens are very interested in our gold for example Our gold our gold. Yes I'm told that gold on earth is relatively easy to access when compared to getting it off an asteroid

Which obviously would have issues when it comes to mining for gold I mean, yeah, that's true rebuttal you also mentioned aliens wanting to do business and form alliances with us Yes, earth is also a very pleasurable place to do business There's also a reason to use earth as a jumping off point to explore the rest of the solar system and the galaxy Also, apparently human females are considered to be very useful for breeding and genetic experimentation The extraterrestrials also come here for food certain reptilian races consider us a food source And then there are those uh that simply want to do commerce with us and utilize us as allies We're very good at building things and we also send troops to conflicts around the universe

Now this is important Human soldiers are being sent to interstellar conflicts Her answer soldiers who are alleged to be going to iraq or afghanistan are actually being sent off planet to places like mars To fight battles alongside other alien races Those men and women will have their minds wiped when they come back This is why we're having so many suicides with ex soldiers In some cases their minds have been wiped so many times they become unbalanced as a result when they return They don't know where they've been they think they've been to the middle east, but they've actually been elsewhere

So that's a good primer. I love this woman I have never been in love quite like this before So what are your thoughts? I just man Oh man ex military some still work for the secret government. We're off to a great start first sentence Secret government. I'm way in love it. I'm way in gold is easy enough to find on earth which is I mean seems not true. I'm sure I don't know. Is there a lot of gold other places? I don't I don't know. You know, well, uh, here we go. Okay, so

gold is really only manufactured in the center of super hot stars So when they explode that's why earth has so many different precious metals on us because Fusion and stars exploding and that shit right something along those as I understand. Yeah, um, so It would seem that planets would probably be easier to get gold from than asteroids. Yeah, I would assume so Is gold on asteroids? I I don't know. I think there are trace minerals on some asteroids But I have no idea about gold specifically. Alrighty, so that one checks out. Okay. I'm I'm gonna say that one's true But do you do you understand why they want our gold? That's not important

Why do you feel like that's important? There's so many uses for gold. Good. What what if they need to fix their iPhones? Computer chips. It's a conductor. We're all good there quite frankly. They have asked and answered. They have interstellar travel Yeah But they still haven't figured out to get gold. We need the gold for wiring right right, okay Earth is a very pleasurable place totally that I disagree with entirely Well, it would be a pretty pleasurable place if you could leave Yes, that's true. Like if you had the option of leaving the planet, it'd be nice to be if it's like vacationing. Yeah Oh, yeah, no, there are plenty of good places to vacation. I love to go to Cabo, but I wouldn't want to live there

No, no, no, I imagine earth on a grander scale is basically that. All right. Well now you've convinced me We're we're two for three. All right. Secret government is still out. Okay. Could be Might not be jury. Not sure jury is still in chambers not disprovable. All right, um women Probably better for genetic experiments and breeding than men are well. Yeah, if those are what she's saying That's the binary. I would say that Uh, I don't since I I have no experience with alien races I'm not sure how much genetic experimentation on us would be relevant to them

Seeing as we're completely different species. Well, how much then why do we do genetic experimentation on other species on our planet? fine Also, there's curiosity. So if we're just going to go by curiosity, that's still a worthwhile endeavor. Sure. Sure Now we're getting into like Lovecraftian stuff. Right. So now we're three for three. Okay secret government's still out Uh eating people the reptilians want to eat people. Yeah, this one Maybe maybe not. I don't know. I've never eaten a person. What about Komodo dragons, right? They eat people They do do they eat people they can well. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I'm sure there I think but I think everybody can eat people well growing up try hard

Growing up on in Hawaii I was there was always sort of a slight fear of the Komodo dragon even though I don't think it's native to Hawaii But we had a lot more lizards Around and the idea of a giant lizard that can eat humans was always kind of a little bit scary That is a scary one. Sure. They're but they're uh, they're poisonous. Aren't they they're famous. That's their big deal But I also think that when you're talking about the reptilians eating humans. It's not just eating our flesh It's also like harvesting emotions and stuff like that. Oh, I did not know that one Yeah, there is a in this in these communities

There is a lot of feelings of like the world is so negative because You have to create negative energy that these The demonic beings can feast off. Okay, so we're back to adrenochrome then. Yeah, basically basically. All right. All right now I have not heard that theory before which one the reason that Soldiers are committing suicide right is because they've traveled the universe Uh and had their minds wiped and got men in blacked. Yeah. Um, but I do find that both offensive Yeah, in so far as that completely tribalizes, uh, their

you know destructive post traumatic stress disorder you're you're you're basically trying to set first of all She's trying to say that there is no war in the middle east exactly Yeah, and that's and all those hundreds of thousands and millions of people who have died as a rub as a result of it fake news fake news Yeah, uh, so that is that is a idea of seeing uh people die wouldn't cause Yeah, exactly like it's just like oh no, it must be something more than that. Obviously it's mind wipes done after you've Uh gone and been a space soldier, right? Exactly. Yeah now that said so stupid. It is offensive It's terrible that said I want to live in that world

That's the world I want to live in but this world sucks Give me the world where universe traveling uh soldiers are mind wiped But that's why people gravitate towards stuff like this is because it is a much more pleasant world Oh, absolutely in the sense that it's fantastical and wild. Yeah, so today anything can happen. Are you done with your breakdown? Uh, I think so. Okay. So today jordan We're going to be going over so she what i'm saying is she's four for five with a no four for six without Jury still out on the secret government. Yes. Um, so Today, yeah, we're going to be looking at an interview that she did with a gentleman by the name of randy kramer

Uh randy kramer to give you a little bit of uh, just a syllabus of what we're about to hear He is uh, according to himself a super soldier And uh, maybe I'll just let it play out. I don't want you to I want you to be surprised by the things he says Are we talking kurt russell super soldier or dolph lunger and super soldier? I don't even know where to draw the line Okay, I'll let him uh sort of tell his his story. I I don't want to put words in his mouth Uh, and so Like I said, this is not necessarily the beginnings of the idea that there are Colonies on mars and stuff like that

I mean those have probably been around since you know the greeks or whatever. I would assume the ancient greeks not no Well, we're actually yesterday. We're gonna get to them in a minute. Fuck. Yes. They come up. Of course they do. Uh, but the um Like I said, this isn't the beginning of the ideas of the uh, mars bases and mars colonies Right, but when you look into it and the stuff that's being spewed online, there is Very little in terms of people who have come out and said Uh, that they were involved in those things and therefore I think it's worthwhile to take a peek at it Excellent. So I will let uh, this thing start with uh, carrie callahan host of Uh, project camalot giving the introduction and giving some randy's credits captain randy kramer is a us marine and super soldier

Who served for 17 years on mars? Defending the mars colonies. He got his start in project moon shadow And was assigned to the mars defense force from a covert covert military branch united states marine corps Dan, you've made me so happy set up by president President isenauer as a unit designed to handle all matters of et contact. I'm really glad that that's your reaction Why are you even doing a regular show? Fuck that now it is all about carrie callahan Knowledge fight. No, thank you. That's hard and mean Yeah, I did tell you before the show that this could indicate a new direction that we could take the show in

Fuck yeah, and uh, we just might oh god if you guys enjoy this episode, please do let us know because we I am More than willing to do more episodes about these whistleblowers and stuff like that. Oh, absolutely So what you can take away from that is that uh, this guy, uh, randy He has been uh randy kramer. Excuse me. He has been on mars for 17 years Uh, he is a super soldier, which at this point we still don't really know exactly what that means Uh, he will explain us marine sure, uh, but i'm going to speculate that he's not Did you look it up? I can't find any evidence that he is

But when we once his story is fleshed out, I'll explain why i'm not convinced he's actually a marine Is it the mars thing? It's the mars thing, isn't it? I feel like you're you're not giving him the benefit of the doubt the mars thing I will be honest is a piece of it But based on his timeline and stuff like that I have reasons to be very skeptical But at the same time if he was I don't want to take anything away from his service And I appreciate it even if he is a little bit nutty and even if it was on mars sure

Absolutely also three years. I think I think I would appreciate that far more because that it's a long It's a long drive to mars sure especially if he's been there 17 years Which means you know that was 2000 We probably could have gotten to mars and what? Oh, no, that this didn't that he left earth on in like 1983 or something like that So let's take a look in 1983. How long do you think it would have taken to get to mars? Uh Infinite time a few years at least right four or five years more than that maybe more yeah

So he's roughly he is a super soldier because he's 75 years old Well, we're going to get to that. Okay. I promise you all of these like Relativity is involved. He has to be I promise you his personal time is so much longer than everybody I promise you all of these concerns will be addressed poorly Okay Wonderful. So uh, like I said, I'm not entirely sure what the super soldier stuff is at this point Right, but uh randy comes in and I'm hoping for serum. Well, let's see. So, uh Without diverging too much, which I did a little bit there in the 1960s pretty much became the priority technology

was super soldier program technology. We were really developing the genetic alteration technology Uh, and the ability to really From the ground up build uh, super soldiers because before that what we really had was nothing but trauma-based mind control Super soldier technology. MK ultra really damaging to the subject And causes the subject to have a really short lifespan So if you want to guarantee that you have a subject that can get a job done For you, you know at the hand at the end of a very very large stick It'll happen

But you're not gonna get it for very long and it's gonna burn itself out or self-destruct to become completely mentally unstable or something checks out, um, so United States Marine Corps special section being the organization that it was or is and Being beholden to the oaths and the special code that it is Um, it really was doing plenty of tests and assessments about this technology and was assessing that much of this trauma-based mind control Uh, it was not working well. MK ultra. So they essentially did a study that said Uh, everybody we've done a study and we think that your methodology of trying to create super soldier is bad And we have a better methodology that we'd like to try and we'd like to suggest and we think you all should consider why

This is a better way of doing things than what you're doing because we think what we call going with the grain Training versus this against the grain training that you're doing enforcement will not only Create a better subject super soldier subject, but they'll last longer They won't go crazy if it works right and they'll actually want to do their job because you won't beat them and rape them every day That is wow that would that took a harsh turn right there at the end quite quite that was very fast Yeah, absolutely. So they're talking about MK ultra the MK ultra didn't do a great job of creating super soldiers Certainly didn't did a great job of giving us one flu over the cuckoo's nest Sometimes a great notion also the unabomber the electric kool-aid acid test. Sure very good stuff overall. Uh, yeah

Take the unabomber out of there. Yeah, take the unabomber out of there. Except he's writing. His writing's great You got on the road. That's that's what MK ultra really did create a great artist created great writers Yeah, uh, but at the same time john holmes is go like you got the whole thing Uh, without doing too deep a dive into MK ultra It is a program that did exist like in the 50s and they fed people lsd Well, that's that was one part of it Right there were also weird psychological tests that were done on people in terms of abusing them or withholding things and seeing what would happen, right, uh, and

Uh, which was the hallmark of science in the 60s is just like definitely. Hey, fuck it. What? Oh, I don't know what's gonna happen Yeah, absolutely. And uh, it's rules and ethics. Nah, it's a horrible thing and it has come out There is evidence of that, but there's no evidence that it continued past its uh end date as it were Which is uh, you know, not what the secret government wants you to think exactly secret government secret government deep state Damn you. So, uh, this all started with eisenhower apparently as randy kramer tells it He explains that uh, basically they needed super soldiers and they were working Uh, with space programs and what have you and that's what uh, eisenhower was really talking about in his exit speech

Right. He was actually talking about uh, this this whole program Uh, and uh off off planetary stuff Also eisenhower was the first super soldier And that's what he was talking about when he used the slogan be like ike right be a super soldier Exactly. So but in this clip that we have randy going on and on uh and talking about how a there was an old way And it was bad and they wanted to go a new way Still not really even explaining what they did No, like he's not explaining the program. It's a genetic uh genetic alteration building him from the ground up

Well, here we go. He he does talk a little bit about that But still not all that specific from the late 1960 project moon shadow was formed and by late 1969 Uh, my dna was being concocted in a p3 dish somewhere and then when I was born in the middle of 1970 Uh, I was genetically engineered from the ground up at that point, uh to be a super soldier fighting machine And was implanted back into my mother's womb and came out And raised as normally as my parents, uh, could figure that everything was being was happening They had no knowledge or how did they not know anything weird was happening They had a kind of pretty strong religious background

So any of the sort of more weird metaphysical things that were occurring they could certainly just sort of write off as being a demonic attack on the household or You know something that was much more, uh, spiritually answerable to their religious system So what we can take from that is his parents were crazy Which which would lead to a higher incidence of the kid being a little nutty. Yeah, uh, so He was genetically created in a test tube in a lab Implanted back into his mother's womb, which i'm a big fan of right And then born and raised as normally as possible, right, which is why we need to stop Planned Parenthood

I'm sure they would have aborted him. Sure get him on an interview. Uh, they're without exactly so he goes on As opposed to being something maybe more material, uh, an extraterrestrial Technological but They were certainly there when you know strange bruises and strange burns and things were appearing, you know Uh, in the middle of the night, I would wake up and be one of those where did this come from? So they're getting old and they don't remember a lot of that stuff when we talk about it But you know, there's certainly conversations that we've had they certainly recall Strange things were going on but they you know, they kind of live in their own universe as well in some way

So it was really they weren't really sure what was happening. I'd recently briefed them and they actually took it very well I have to say they actually did very well Of course they did and they took it well. They smiled at you and were like, oh All right, you're too old for us to put you in. Yeah, I don't know what to do with this one. Yeah Yeah, can't uh, 51 50 you on this I'm sure they I'm sure after that briefing. Yeah, they turned and looked at each other and like Oh, maybe we need to dial it back a little bit. Maybe this is partly our fault. I shouldn't have smoked while I was pregnant But uh, I shouldn't have used God while I was pregnant

Well, I mean a lot of those things too like mysterious bruises and stuff like that You know, you speculated sleepwalking. That's entirely possible There's also possibilities of like the usually when there are bruises and stuff mysteriously on children It's an indication of abuse stigmata. Yeah, there could be things that he's blocking out from his childhood Especially if his parents were super religious. Absolutely. That definitely gives you that pause there I'm not saying that is the case, but it is entirely possible and when you bring up stuff like that like It is at the very least the very least more likely than ghosts right and super soldier theorem Well, I don't know where genetic engineer. I don't know how his genetic engineering to be a super soldier would cause mysterious bruises

I mean, it was uh, it was an experimental program like he's sparring certain No, I like sparring when he's five. No, like his body is rebuilding itself around these genetic alterations And sometimes the veins and the the arteries will pop or burst as he's growing And so that's where a bruise would come from. That's an interesting. That's a subdermal hematoma my friend That's an interesting theory and I'll allow it Because why the fuck not because we got we're in uncharted territory my friend We have a ton to get through. Oh boy a ton of crazy that's going to blow your mind Uh, so this is not where I'm going to plant my flag

So the issue was Before they had this mk ultra and this abuse based way of making super soldiers Right, but the problem that you would come to is that these super soldiers you'd create had no morality They would burn out right they did they die real young Yeah, uh, and they were sort of robots, right? They weren't a robust super soldier that you would need and so in this next clip randy goes on to explain how he is A version of a more a more moral super soldier. Oh good Basically, I was trained from my adolescence up to my teenage years the age of 17

As a super soldier in project moon shadow, which again was a different kind of program The goal was not to just be this hard and make us become murder machines But to try and train us to be actual thinking feeling Moral super soldiers that would make moral and ethical decisions That would be for the good of the people and for the good of the planet around them Which our command kind of based on this historical notion They really took the classic greco-roman heroic model and said look if we really want to create people like You know this if you want to make an achilles if you want to make a hercules if we want to make an atlas or an ajax

They're not just murder machines, you know These these are moral ethical heroes who did what they did because they believed in a better purpose They believed in a better thing they just bigger stronger faster smarter monsters. They were bigger stronger faster Smarter stronger better heroes Because they believed in self sacrifice They believed in and not just kicking back and be in fact with a bunch of cows and a bunch of wives But you know, they were out, you know fighting the dragons and the monsters of the world to protect people No real dragons, but heard enough dan

President this man. Uh, no, that's andre basiago. Oh, fine. So no, no, no, I don't care now Now i'm on this dude's tip. We need a ticket of the two of them. I want this dude How much better a president would this dude be probably better than sure Insanely better. So uh, the other thing though, too, you're right. He needs to re-examine his greek, uh history Yeah, he does not know because atlas first of all was a titan. He wasn't a human No, and he definitely wasn't a hero. No, he uh, he's holding the world on his shoulders. That's who atlas is a punishment Yeah, yeah Because he was bad. Yeah, uh, the other part of the very well, I mean, he wasn't really morally bad

He was just he just got his ass kicked by zoos It's hard for us to really under grapple with the morality of gods But be that as it may a jack sure he was a it was a warrior Uh, if you want to talk about achilles, he is wrathful. Yeah, that's his primary characterization And the only reason uh, that there's a story in the iliad is because achilles gets pissed off That uh, his uh, his general comes over and is like, hey, i'm gonna take your war bounty, which was women Yeah, his woman got stolen his plunder got stolen. He's like, fuck it. I'm not fighting then That's the whole beginning tension

Of the iliad. Yeah hero. Yeah, it's not like he was fighting for some noble purpose Because he believed in stuff in the trojan war. He wasn't fighting for a noble purpose personal property He believed in the second amendment. He believed in personal property in the sense that a person was his property. Yes, absolutely Uh, so yeah, his examples there are pretty flawed in terms of what a moral super soldier would be and hercules wasn't so much a hero uh as a Uh unwitting uh toy plaything of the gods, but he was also a demigod There's also a half god. So again, but he had to murder his wife and he had to do this whole thing They had to fight the gorgon. Yeah, he had to do the 12 12 tasks to clean up a shed

It was a big shed too Now that is a moral superhero, I will admit if you can clean up that shed you're good So I think we've pretty well established what makes him a super soldier at this point Imagination Yeah, so he doesn't really get too much deeper into the the essence of the program that made him a super soldier Other than to say in that last clip. He was training Which I mean when I was a lessons and on when I was a fucking kid. I was training too. I was sparring with trees I was doing some imaginary training too. Excellent. Yeah, absolutely. So I mean, maybe I'm a super soldier too

And I just don't know it entirely possible. Yeah, uh, so in this next Where do you think you got that thing on your face? Huh with the cross-eye? No, the the the surgery you need. Oh, yeah, that's a side effect from your super Maybe it's a homing beacon that I'm going to be cutting out of myself Now the super super secret soldier program won't be able to find me anymore Yeah, did your doctor suddenly and mysteriously changed they refer you out after the initial diagnosis he did Oh, no secret government. So uh, since this is going to happen to me in the near future I'm glad that we have uh, randy kramer here to explain what happened when he entered the program. Gotcha

So, uh, they took 300 of us And ran us through the program and then when I guess sort of graduated at about age 17 and then we're uh The project moon shadow essentially as only one of many super soldier programs Not just in america but around the world that contribute to the larger program Then parcel soldiers out of those programs to something called project mannequin project mannequin is a larger global program Which takes all these super soldier programs from everybody else and then assigns them either back to military programs on the ground Where super soldiers are either trained or used or then onward to the outer programs to the edf Which anything that is off-world out of the off-planet is definitely edf terrifying

So you either kind of get parceled back into a Terrestrial unit or you get sent off work and then once you get sent parcel to the edf block The edf then parcels out its soldiers to radiant guardian and for the other solar stations and any of the other planetary Get a writing staff radiant guardian. Come on. That's terrible. It's one of the names of the programs But also edf. He keeps saying is the earth defense Fund or whatever foundation right force earth defense force. Yeah, that's the what that's the f So hold on. Here we go. Let's finish this clip. I'm not privy to every planetary loom base that they have but they parceled them to all of those And some to mars and like mars the mars colony corporation is what runs

mdf Which is its own private military contracting agency It's like black water. Yeah, nobody in the mdf is not from the edf But again, like I said the edf because of this whole paperwork thing is no longer, you know in charge of everybody at the mcc or the mdf so I love that bureaucracy is a huge issue here like hey We live in this

magical world where you can go to But that that makes me buy it far more like the fact that he's gone that deep into the bureaucracy of it Is like oh man, they're on my ass to fill out this paperwork all the time So I don't get to go to mars. I'll say that it doesn't help convince me It makes me think that maybe he's had a shitty job That makes me think that maybe he's had to fill out paperwork before um, but The I like that all the people in the moon defense force are part of the earth defense force, of course

But not all members of the earth defense force are members of the moon defense force. This is just normal. This is behavior Yeah, absolutely. So, uh, you might be asking yourself, you know, he comes in at 17 What happened? Like what what was the actual moment? Yeah, I know whenever I graduated with with a class of 300 after defeating the uh, Persians of course. Yes, and then what goes down? Uh, here's what happened at 17. Okay. Um, but you shipped out from earth at the age of 17. Is that right? Correct? That is correct. So on november the 17th 1987 or actually in the morning of so would have been november the 18th 1987 at 2 30 a.m

Uh as pretty par for the course for an evening of training A localized wormhole appears two guys come out and they're like, okay, it's time to go and i'm okay, let's go Uh, but we didn't just go do training session. It was off to an underground base to a uh, like A hangar with an aurora trb 3 big black triangular vehicle That um, I think I think they're actually manufactured by bowing Actually, uh, and that uh, they're sold out to the air force and whoever else uses them and they're still kind of a standard Terrestrial shuttle vehicle. They're not the most advanced thing at all But you know, they do the job and you don't necessarily want to give way more advanced technology that you know

People if they catch one or get one or take one apart or something. No, I'm good. I'm good with that. Yeah. Yeah, that's actually pretty good strategic Uh, uh thinking right there. Yeah, absolutely Um, so I want to take this moment to say that his story has changed Substantially over interviews that he's done in the past. What a lot of this stuff did not appear in early interviews that he did about Well, yeah, he's refining. Yeah, absolutely. He's he's but you know, remember. He's remembering more and more exactly That's that's it's all coming back to him. Yeah, he he does like uh sessions where he you know Recovers blocks of his memory and stuff like that and so that explains why a lot of the story shifts and changes Of course, but it also explains why he has gotten to this point where a lot of this is blasé

A lot of this is like, you know, oh the you know the earth defense force There's a lot of paperwork. He does stuff. He does sound very over it Well, yeah, he's like, all right, you know, hey after a night of training Localized wormhole opened up as as you know It happens. Yeah So Were you given warning or was it just like a hole in space just opened up and two dudes walked out and were like, hey Come on get in here. And then I'm like, all right

Get in the get in here. So he goes through this wormhole localized wormhole is also what they called the bus and my butt So they uh, they come through this wormhole. They grab him up. They put him in spaceship and then why would you put him in a spaceship? You've got a fucking wormhole localized wormhole That means there are other kinds of wormholes. Absolutely. But you don't want to be fucking opening up these crazy long wormhole tunnels anyway, that's again airtight airtight logic. Yeah, you're right. You're you're right there. They could be unstable Yeah, when you're going off-planet you want to go with the safest route and you've already got these uh, inner these bowing

Yeah, these bowing From 1987. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, okay So, uh, you might ask what happens after that? I mean, is there anything boring about your experience? Maybe Uh, where we then went through a processing process and we sat down in front of a junior officer and edf officer and explained Here's this big contract. You're going away for a 20 year tour. You don't know where you're going to go yet I can't tell you that we don't know if That's Sign here. This is what's going to happen. Then we'll bring you back and we'll you know erase your memories for security reasons

But you don't remember all that crazy stuff anyway And then we'll send you back and you'll have a really cool job and not the live But you know, they keep you this kind of song and dances like recruiters do Uh, and then after your initial mission, there's a sign. There's you know, another medical exam I think and then there's a waiting period. I love that. There's another another medical exam. I think yeah There's another medical exam, but see this is airtight logic He goes in he signs this 20 year contract and part of the contract is at the end of it We're gonna wipe your memory. You don't want to remember that stuff. Anyway, we'll get you that which they waved off so

Eh, you're not gonna want to remember that we got it will get you a good job. They're gonna lie into you Fucking secret government always lying about you. Why would they make you sign a contract like you like they would even Acknowledge your existence. Anyways, you are genetically engineered in a lab to become a super soldier It's not like you're gonna sue you need that paperwork on file Also If you're going to be a super soldier on mars and like you haven't signed a contract and you want out how How are you gonna get out? You can't just

Well, I assume they've trained you on localized wormholes at that point, right? You can go to another part of mars you can look if you're talking about a wormhole Everything is localized. That's the whole idea behind wormholes is that space and time are one point And that you can combine them across the universe at any point in time very very silly words coming out of your math right now You have no idea how stupid you sound I'm just saying that our listeners are like wow. I thought I respected Jordan. That was dumb It's a fold space. That's what you're doing with a wormhole

You're taking one part and it's you're just folding space and time together Because there's no real distance between the two of them since they're the same thing So how do you even think a localized wormhole is any different from an interstellar wormhole? And that's the magic of like wormholes is you know, it allows immediate travel to places Theoretically right now you might be surprised to learn that wormholes are in play But at the same time randy tells us in this next clip that it takes 15 minutes to get from the moon to mars Fuck now. I don't even want to be a part of this shit. It takes 15 minutes. They're what is their traffic? Yeah, I guess so

So I think I cut out the part where he talks about this but they go to If we're talking about an Einstein-Rosenbridge. Sure. All right There is zero time and also you would be spaghettified along the way Uh, so he he he goes to a moon base. I'm guessing that's where they did this processing Uh, and then from there they enter an eight story tall spaceship That has wings, but he doesn't know why there are wings. There are wings It's just it's just like they evolved like they're they're fucking residual wings. Yeah Also eight stories tall is a massive. It's a very big one. Yeah aerodynamically that would be difficult to get off the ground

But he gets on this ship and they go space and space. It's easy to get off the ground not even from the moon That would be difficult. Nah, that'd be fine. Who cares? Anyway, I do I do more than I've ever cared about anything else if we need to nitpick save your energy So they go in this eight story tall ship from the moon And they go past they do a buzz by buzz fly by of earth And from the ceiling gun style You can see the earth and you can see electrical storms and randy is filled with this sense that the earth is alive and It's this nice last view of earth before they shoot off from mars, right?

Uh, and here is him talking about uh, the beginning of his service and uh, the trip to mars I'm assuming that eventually we'll get into why he still has his memory, right? Um, maybe Maybe literally maybe because it's because his memory should have been erased if we're going by this 20 year contract I've listened to all was there like a technicality or something Because paperwork is so important. Did somebody forget to check the memory erase box. There's a clause in his contract The secret government was in breach of contract, so they had to let him go. I can answer that question But I have to do it later. Okay. Um, I'm just I'm just no I I'm assuming you're not gonna answer it now

I just want to know if there's any possible answer in the future. Uh, I mean, look, there's there's ostensibly an answer I can't tell you that there's an answer. That's good. Look, we're we're an alex jones based podcast Yeah, we're engaging on their level not on ours. Yeah, absolutely Don't say ostensibly once in this entire podcast Fair enough. Also, I like them way more than I like Oh my god, I'm so happy with this. Yeah. So here we go This is about the trip to mars and the beginning of his time there

Also dovetails nicely into some theories about time travel and you traveled this and how and how much time was passing during this time Uh, I mean, it's it was a matter of minutes. It seemed like I mean, maybe It was a 15 20 minute, you know Ride from the moon to the back to the sort of looking at earth and then once we left earth It was maybe a 15 20 minute ride to mars because then we went via wormholes So then the vehicle However, the wormholes are manifested went through one and then we came out of mars and then he says, uh, welcome to mars We've arrived at our location and brought us down to the ground and landed at airy's premise

Okay, okay, and then this was your base for uh, if I recall is that 17 years or is that um Because I know you had three years what appeared to be there So some kind of I think it might have been solar warden, uh, correct me. I'm wrong. We call it solar warden Um, not sure what you call it It was radiant guardian when I was a part of that program, but it's changed, you know, number of times and it's all It's been that something similar to that In essence became a pilot though, uh for three three years, right? About whatever was the remainder of my 20 year tour, you know, however that works out exactly

It was 17 so what was three months 14 days ish, you know, uh 14 15 days if you know how you want to count I guess so um And then the pilot training school interestingly enough That was another quantum dilation they kind of in order to get more time out of us they were like we're not going to Waste time on the floor with your pilot training. So we're gonna take you to You know this lunar base to do your pilot training and then we're gonna you're gonna bring you back You know 15 minutes after you leave. So you don't lose any any actual service time. It's like, okay great That's fine. Okay. So there's there's time travel in essence involved in when you move from one place to another, right?

If they want there to be yeah, I mean if they want to see if essentially if they want to save time You know, they can do something out of time so that instead of it taking days weeks or months It takes, you know, five minutes or 15 minutes. There there are some interesting ways to play with time like that I'm not a really good at temple mechanics. I don't think I'm good at explaining it, but The time guys really understand their business and certainly know how to move things around crashing So you understand what he's saying there Basically is that there's time travel involved so they can screw you out of the the time that you've been

Exactly. Yeah, you signed up for 20 years. So maybe you do something that takes like three months and then they time travel you back Yeah, well, they don't want to screw you out of your time. Uh It's a living EDF Curses Just well if they want there to be what what why wouldn't they like are they joyriding? Are they fucking with you? What's happening here? I don't know if they want there to be time travel Who doesn't well, I mean, it's it's the idea of like stop lossing if they want to stop loss you they can just time travel you back And then you're fucked right. That's true. It's a very uh bizarre understanding of time and uh, I don't

Which means it's the correct understanding. Absolutely. And he seems to be hung up on 15 minutes as a uh demarcation of time Like if you want to time travel, they can just go back to the exact time. It's not it doesn't take 15 minutes to time travel Here's my second theory. Uh, here's my theory on that. All right Um, because of all the time travel that he that he's done The only real amount of time that he can measure in his brain Is 15 or 20 minutes like that's all he's got. It's possible. So if you're talking to him and you're like, hey, it's uh 11 o'clock now And do you want to watch the cubs game? That's at six o'clock Uh, how long do you think it's gonna be? We got 15 minutes. We got 15 or 20 minutes. Yeah. Yeah, maybe he's got brain damage

That's as reasonable as any other theory. There are side effects to time travel Dan. That's true. Everybody knows this. Absolutely I've seen lost. It's not really time travel. I guess Desmond's mind just uh is displaced and they're all dead anyway. No You're wrong. Well, I mean at the end they are all dead. Yes, but Fuck you, uh this next clip, uh, we we've already established that randy ends up on mars and uh This next clip we get a little bit of talk about what to what mars Is like when he shows up, uh, but but in essence you were based then on mars and you were there, uh Explain to people that you know are going to be relatively new to the subject

What your job was on mars, right? Well, uh, essentially it was assigned to the mars defense force like said at that point from the earth defense force, which was a Military private military company that is contracted to the mars colony corporation or the mcc to defend the mars colony What about so we essentially were one of many stations to create a buffer zone around The territory with the colonies are located those colonies any of the local Both hostile animal life and possibly hostile sentient life You know out of that territory and I can only sort of answer for You know what was taking place in in our area, which you know for some time

I sort of presumed was the whole thing happening all over but the more information I get from other people the more I realized Uh, no, I was just at the sort of the northern arctic front So, you know, it's a sort of this very specific area with some very specific things that were going on there that We're not necessarily what were happening everywhere else, but there's certainly still interesting crossovers What's what's happening talking to other people and eventually there will be a lot more people talking about this I know a bunch of them and they're not ready to come forward right now But you know, I'm talking to these people on a regular basis And I know people who are talking to people on a regular basis who you know

We're all talking about their mars experiences and their mars service And we're all collecting data on that and correlating the data The good news is randy has met some other crazy people I Want to go to their meetings. I want to be on their group texts. I want to know everything about these people You know how accidentally some people end up in a work group text Sort of thing and they like just have to watch the planning for a lunch happen Why can't we accidentally get lumped in with this? I want yeah, I want a wrong number group text to be like

Hey, what was your experience like on mars and I'd be like i'm fucking way in randy. You were way up north, right? Yeah, I was in the arctic. Yeah the the local hostile Life yeah, and possibly also possibly sentient life. Oh, no, no, there is no possible about it There was there were aliens. Oh, yeah, or well in digest martians As I believe they prefer to be called. Yeah. Yeah, okay. That's the correct PC terminology Um, yeah, so he he was there. He was on mars and he had to protect the colonies Yeah, which is which is where we're marching colonies. We find some overlap with uh, robert david steele from the alex jones show Talking about there being bases and colonies on the on mars

He was uh there as a super soldier randy was and he had to fight off dogs Don't like that. Yeah, local wildlife, right? So now he this introduces a really interesting, uh problem Don't look at me like that No, again, we're engaging on their world not ours. So, uh, what is the one problem that this creep He goes on to say that their bases were like underground and within a mountain because of course they were I mean, they would have to be yeah, because otherwise we would see them Well, there are a lot of there are many reasons why they would need to be under a lot of people with a lot of telescopes We have a rover on mars now, right?

This would not be something that we couldn't figure out right But if we've already got bases there, then we can definitely send a rover to the spot where we don't have bases Yeah, that's true. So, I mean, it's not like the rover can see the entire planet, right? But then the issue that I have is if you have underground bases Where are things coming at you from? How are you having a war in underground bases? Well, that's the thing that they discovered, right? So they go there to set up the colony They start digging underground because they know that people are going to see him if they don't right All right, they better do it quick. Otherwise people are going to see them so fast so fast

Well, it was the 80s. Everybody was too busy doing coke. I think it's pretty well established that this started before the 80s Okay, fine. This is Eisenhower's shit. Okay. This is We got the nuclear bomb and then immediately went to mars colonies. Gotcha. The nuclear bomb was a distraction That's when they did it. Everybody was it was the fallout of nagasaki. Uh-huh. We only really needed to drop one Yeah, but Hiroshima. Mm-hmm. That was the decoy to get us building these mars colonies Everybody's too busy with the tragedies bingo. There we go. Now. We're on mars digging underground to develop our martian colonies but to their surprise

Their shit living underground, right? So they are fighting inch by inch against i'm going to go with uh, Orson's orson scott card style Uh, uh, four mechs. Are you talking about more locks down there? Yeah, some some along those lines But if that's the case then they already have bases down there and you're just occupying more lock bases or whatever Is that the case? That's what they're doing. Why do you think they need super soldiers? He doesn't if it was just if there was nothing going on on mars, you just have a bunch of people there No, because he's drinking the

marrow of Children and adrenochrome blood Sure, and you'd still like but you'd still need super soldiers Even if there weren't like weird underground battles going on because you'd need people who are able to withstand These wormhole jumps and stuff like that. That's true. That's people who wouldn't be spaghetti eyes as uh Spaghetti fide spaghetti fide, which is a true scientific term that I learned So you might be thinking too at this point that like this is a little silly. We know that mars is inhubitable There's no oxygen there. There's you know, human life could not really exist there

Randy wants you to know that you're a dumb dumb. I agree. He wants to tell you the truth about mars's climate Okay, you're talking about being You're talking about being on surface of mars Are you talking about the mars that we we see and we think we know in this dimension? Are you talking about fourth dimensional mars? Oh, no, i'm actually talking about the physical planet of mars that we know and understand to be right now And which our our rover and probe is on right now now. We're absolutely talking about the same place So it's an important thing to note about it. It's not exactly the way nasa tells us nasa tells us that doesn't have a

Breedable oxygen atmosphere that's not true. It does. I love how sarcastic he is right there. It's not exactly as nasa tells us So dismissive. That's not sarcasm. That's condescension. Yeah, it's just like you guys are dumb Yeah, no, you believe nasa they tell you this it's not quite like that, but you're close right Right. Oh, so good. It's a it's a real turn on so good super readable in the sense that this is more like thin mountain air for us So I it's really not recommended Outside the equatorial regions to try and like survive without an environment suit The equatorial regions can be a bit warmer and a bit more mild and temperate So it's not the worst thing in the world apparently to just be sort of exposed and in street clothing so to speak

But you get any of the directions for the farther north or south and you're going to get way more extreme temperatures and winds and so forth And you're going to need some protection But it's but again it is and you're going to need some oxygen assistance and some breathing assistance If you're going to do any physical moving or fighting that's for sure So we never went outside without an environment suit without a powered environment suit that with body armor and you know Everything else that we needed all in one package Okay, but did you have structures that you occupied on the surface or was it all underground? We were inside of a mountain and pretty much everything as I understand is underground

I mean there may be some facilities which operate on the surface or do things on the surface But really 99 of everything that you want to stay functioning has got to be underground It is still susceptible to some pretty intense wind storms Uh, yeah, that's fair. That is fair. I just looked it up. Uh, it has to be underground and I'll tell you why Near the poles temperatures can get down all the way to uh minus 195 degrees It's pretty cold even on the equator on the during a summer day Which uh, I don't remember the length of mars's uh orbit around earth Who cares but summer's a while. Yeah, uh, it can get all the way up to 70 degrees fahrenheit

Yeah, which means street clothes, which means yeah, you could be out there It's a bit mountain air so you can still breathe it, but you're gonna run, you know Don't go any far don't go too far Yeah, be careful if you're hiking on the equator of mars that said at night even on the equator It can get down to minus 73 degrees Minus 100 or minus 100 fahrenheit wild fluctuations in terms of temperature So you've got to build an underground that checks out. I'm on his side now. Now, let's be clear Uh, things are colder underground

You can control the environment a little bit better and put in like heaters and stuff like that But if it's negative 195 degrees because he said he's in the north right he's at the northmost point Of their he's on the northern he's on the polar northern front right so that would be where in the winter It's a negative 195 degrees right if you go underground that's going to be like That it's going to be way colder closer to mars's core dan The like 30 feet underground you are is not going to make a difference. No, they break close to the slate He said he's in a mountain They might not even be underground

A mountain could be a bus if you're inside a mountain. You're still underground. I consider mountains ground. What if it's a volcano? Ooh, that's a good question. See now. You don't even have to worry about heat You use the thermal heat from the volcano all volcanoes are mountains not all mountains are volcanoes Thank you You stare at me and I end things with a thank you just like in the oh, you know All mars defense people are earth defense people but not all earth defense people are all mars defense all gentlemen are men But not all men are gentlemen. Um Dicks dicks dicks amen

Uh, so you might be asking yourself, which is something I keep finding myself saying Uh at this point you might be quizzically thinking uh, hey If all this stuff is going on and there are all these space bases on the on the moon on the moon mars Theoretically everywhere. He's he's speculated. It's probably going on. I mean if you got wormholes, fuck it You can get anywhere around the world. Why not? So why why aren't we getting any indication of like radio signals from yeah From all these because communication must be going on between them. Yeah, he's got that color unless they're doing everything face to face Now he's got it covered. Okay. Oh, guess the prize what why when we're listening for radio signals

Why we don't hear them from everybody is because you know, everybody else who's smart is also muffling their signals So that they're not on the map to everybody That just turns out to be a technology like Be quiet and so we got there listening thinking that everyone's being loud and noisy When everyone's being stealthy and quiet because so what they do is whisper Conversations of knowing what they're doing and where they are That's just kind of more standard practice than it turns out to be now. Yeah, no that makes sense. Sure. I'll give it to Yeah, you have uh sound mufflers radio signal mufflers. Yeah, talk soft great. How does that how would have how would a

Radio signal signal muffler work. I don't know One that would have to be strong enough to reach earth from mars And it would have to be selective enough that you could have the signals you do want coming in coming in Otherwise it would make communication between the bases Impossible. Yeah, absolutely. I don't know furthermore, but it's a technology that smart people use Sorry, go ahead. No, that's a good point. Yeah Smarter people than I yeah, sure. I can't I can't argue that I don't know enough about radio waves to know whether or not you could hide one successfully from mars

We weren't specially created in test tubes and implanted into our parents. That's true So we don't know all these well, I mean if you're figuring they've got super soldiers, right? That means they also must have created a super scientist as well Of course like that would have you would have to do that. Why would you only create super soldiers? And they're the ones who are lying to us about climate change. Of course, you know, they're too smart You know, it's fucked up. Uh, this is a three hour interview that he did and I don't have all that much I kept it mostly to the mars stuff. Yeah, he believes in climate change So well, but that makes perfect sense if we're getting if we're getting off planet

That means we've seen climate change common since the eisenhower years Gotta get out of there. It's never totally clear. Like he doesn't really give Uh, any real reason that any of this stuff exists though Like the idea that it is a potential colony to move to or anything like that. Dan He doesn't really speculate. Do you know why this stuff exists? Why? Because why not? Sure Because it's there. Why do you explore the world dan? Because it's there, right? I think the reason why do you build super soldiers to go to mars and defend it against perhaps indigenous life

Because you gotta I think the more likely thing is this guy had a little bit of a psych psychotic break and But he's still super functional. It could just be that he's Super creative having a lot of fun. It could be. I mean, why would look if I could sustain a three hour interview of made up Bullshit with the most credulous woman in the world. You could she is I I listening to her ask these questions I was just like a complete like Oh, yeah, we called it to the this we called it lunar radiant guardian. Is that what you're saying? We called it celestial This is a solar warden. Yeah. Yeah, and you're like

Well, if she believes it goes by it's on a different name. I guess I guess that means we're I guess that means she's in She's all in big time. I love it big time. I love her Yeah, so the next clip I have here discusses why you'd need super soldiers to go up there Speculate it a little bit. That is a good question. I do want to get to the bottom of that. All right. Here we go Right. Okay. So when you were deployed on on mars, you were in essence, uh, Based on your story, which I've listened extensively to, uh Basically encountering from what I understand Reptilian species and and and basically what would sound like what mark richards

Uh, captain mark richards of the secret space program who I've interviewed would say are called troggs Uh, that's what his his experience is with them. You called them. I think insectoids Yeah, that there was certainly an I was right. We're going worse. It's got part of this one engineer, you know other Hive insects of you know, sort of to do their Their basic their way of building machines is genetically engineering another bug or another, you know, insect that will do that job And so they have this very organic Uh way of doing this very incredibly advanced organic science. It's really really advanced organic science. I'll just call it that So your your battle though was to in a sense, there seemed like there was

A small battle skirmishes that you were defending the the base that we have just like here in you know If united states and russia get into an issue maybe over in afghanistan, they're having a skirmish there So you were you're fighting over territory. Is that correct constantly? And it's I think it's important to to note and point out because I I keep hearing people presume What that conflict was about or what we were fighting over and so I'm feeling more and more that I need to be really clear About why we were fighting and what we were fighting for Um, it was not for supremacy of the planet It was not for a total global war of the planet until the draconians attacked and got involved

God damn it draconians You're fucking up a good thing War and what the stages were but you know, we were having what I would call polite civilized conflict really with the native reptoids and the native insectoids and that's really I mean a hard thing to say when you're still like, ah, you know killing and stabbing and blowing each other up But it was way more polite and civilized until the draconians came along and really kind of messed up. What was a an organic system of territorial Uh, boundary keeping that was not meant to overrun somebody else's high or territory, but simply to maintain

That everyone had a certain weakness Uh, to them and no one could grow over strong So that everyone could maintain a peaceable territory without anyone actually trying to become this is the product starcraft This is the plot of starcraft word for word This is the plot of starcraft in which kept any one person from becoming too powerful and then overwhelm any other So it was a constant back and forth that was meant to maintain and stabilize the territory and the peace arrangement Believe it or not. I know this is may sound very strange and some people are the way of doing things, but it might Oh, oh, is that the thing that sounds strange? It might sound strange

Look, we were fighting not for supremacy until those fucking reptoids got involved the draconian The draconians. I'm sorry. The reptoids are ostensibly another Uh, local population that they're having skirmishes with now. I'm a big fan of the insectoids on this one I want them I want them winning because if they need a job done They just genetically engineer another insectoid a machine to do that. Yeah, and it's an organic machine. Sure brilliant Great brilliant insectoids in this one thrilled for the insect. I I think they're doing a great job I don't understand why we can't have an alliance with the insect. Exactly, right? Learn some of that technology

They seem to be the ones that we should join up with to defeat the draconians bring an insectoid back here Create all kinds of technology solve a lot of our problems pollution could be taken care of right all sorts of shit If only engineer a bug to fix pollution so the draconians come in and they fuck their shit kickers They just want to fuck everything up. Uh, and so draconian of them very much so This is uh, very uh included in the whole entire mythology of the lizard people that sort of stuff They're often referred to as draconians right further from draco dick cheney, right? All uh, so this dovetails into david ike a little bit here with the uh, the lizard folk And uh, you'll be thrilled to know that there was a massive war with the draconians

Uh, but there was is it still going? It's not there was peace reached. Oh good found detente good How did they do that? I don't know you didn't he just said they found peace. Yeah. Well, I mean you can't fight forever No, not even on mars. No, uh, it's a lot like a turf war in afghanistan between russia and the united states sooner or later You're gonna get peace but i'm telling you this dan just like that Just like that conflict is right around the corner. I think they're gonna be fighting again I think what he's sort of expressing is a little bit of an idea and maybe a fanciful idea about Like wars between native american tribes before the white man came

Okay, you know like there is a little bit of that to what he's saying because I don't know. No, no, no, no Now I see where you're going. It's not for dominance. It's for you know, I don't know enough to protect yours I don't know enough about ancient native american history But I do think that if you also don't know a lot you might speculate that That was how native warfare went Back before and then the draconians would be The europeans coming over and going for supremacy. So maybe this is all an allegory Maybe he's trying to teach us about ourselves if that's the case huzzah

But also I don't know salute you. I don't know if that's accurate like no, it's not no, but I mean even the lesson I'm not sure if that's accurate again. I don't know enough about uh, ain't that old time Uh native american history, um, you know, they were people it feels right to me that lesson But I don't know it to be true That's because of all of the that's because of all the stuff that we kind of idolize about the native american tribes Yeah, certainly, uh that you know like we're living uh as one with the nature and all that stuff Yeah, it's no they were people they still fucking murdered each other looked and right there are tribes that were driven extinct by other Yeah, tribes and there's a lot simulated. There was slavery. There was all that other stuff

There's a lot of people who are against fiat currency and what have you who also make the argument They're like, yeah, but the native americans just used barter and had an economy and really if you look at it That's not economy. No, no, no. They had they had an economy. They were sophisticated people. Yeah It's a little again the only reason that we won is not because we were so technologically superior because we were evil They were well, there's that but also because native uh the most native american tribes were absolutely decimated by uh disease before we ever even got here right and then they also were not helped by diseases that we brought Right. No. Yeah. No, we fucked them up. We fucked them up. But yeah, no, they had uh one of the

uh like archaeologists have found that they've had one of the uh largest cities in the world at the time and the kahokia mound. Yeah. Yeah Anyway, this has been fun, but let's get back to crazy. All right So you have been giggling and laughing has been a fucking delight for me. You've been giggling every time I swear to god the mars colony corporation They're fucking awesome. Yeah, it is a corporation. Well, I mean come on. There's a lot of paperwork involved. It's for profit That's right. I forgot it has to they have to be selling something. Yeah, they're selling condos on mars So it is

It's a business endeavor that is being protected by a blackwater-esque group of super soldiers on mars Yeah, so if you want to really look at the long view, that's what's going on Okay, so in this next clip uh randy talks a little bit about the actual colonies themselves And we were not really allowed to visit the colonies. I've never been to them. I've never seen them I don't even know what they exactly look like. I think that colonies what colonies of who? The mars colony corporation colonies, which apparently they have five colonies the mars colony corporation is a consortium of You know earth-based banking money people technological

Governments and so forth who are all participating In order to be part of the mars colony And to be part of the colonies and to be part of that genome project and the sort of you know Future of whole civilization project is they like to think of themselves and call themselves In order to preserve humanity, etc. etc. Dude, you should be so cynical about the mars colony corporation You were not in essence you were guarding the colonies, but you weren't we're not based in the colonies Correct. I have never seen the colonies never even been close enough to them to tell you whether they're domed underground Or what they look like now that's actually smart. You don't want your

Colonists being influenced by a war like people. Well, you know, you want them to be Pollyanna ish It's sort of like the wall in game of thrones like people who are born at the wall Right. I haven't gone down to winterfell or anything like that. Yeah, you don't want the people in winterfell necessarily to know about the others No, of course, you want them to feel safe. Yeah, and you similarly don't want people at the wall Who maybe have no idea of other ways of life? I mean, I know a lot of people were sent there as a penal thing be that as a may game of thrones coming back soon Very excited. We're very excited. We're brought to you by game. Yeah, I'm very excited Still will not pick up one of those goddamn books even if my life depended on it

So listen one three and five are good two and four are garbage interesting trend there Just takes out every other book off. That's why I don't know why people are excited for winds of winter I'm excited for the seventh book right fuck winds of winter. It's gonna be 10,000 pages long. It's gonna be terrible I got no time for it. I gotta read Philip K dick stuff Anyway this next Part of this clip because at the beginning of the clip he's saying I've never been to the colonies I don't know what they look like. They might be domed. I have no idea Carrie Callahan comes back with a real nice rebuttal. Oh, she's got some stuff. She does

I respect the fuck out of this answer. All right, even though it's still crazy But it's great at all I mean, is is that even possible if you're fighting against? I mean was there because my understanding, you know, and I know there was this huge Battle at the end that actually, you know impacted you it appears in a in a very deep way And then you actually got reassigned to to the moon But prior to that

You're saying you weren't in the colonies. You didn't go there Is it possible that that's an area of your of your your brain? You know with all due respect that's been erased that memory Holy shit, Terry memories that I haven't extracted But I find that unlikely at this point since I feel that I've done a pretty solid extraction of pretty much Everything like all the chunks that would be a chunk here a chunk there a chunk there And so that would be a missing chunk that I I'm It's unlikely that I I haven't found that

Oh rats See now that makes me believe Terry is right all the more Because if well, look if you well, but I mean, it's a self-defining system It's like, oh, you don't remember that that's clear because you don't have that part of your memory Right, right But his denial of that like if he was if he was making this up he would have been like no, you're right He would have he would have yes and it would have been like maybe maybe that's possible That's bullshit because even in his denial. He's accepting it as a possibility right

So he didn't he if he had said absolutely not, uh, I've done all the searching that's possible in my memory I've been cleared. I know everything Uh, absolutely not that would be more respectable because that is an outright denial This still allows him to later be like, oh shit. I do remember the colonies Hey now, however, if you're dealing with somebody who's in early stages of dementia or Alzheimer's Then you will see them occasionally have those moments of lucidity And if you ask them questions about their their memories their space they will most likely be like um, I mean

I don't it could it could be but I don't think so It's very unlikely because they feel like they're in control of their memories They don't they're not aware of their own so maybe he has some sort of early onset Alzheimer's Well, what else would you get after you've had your memory wiped so many different? We don't actually know how many times his memory has been well But we do know that he's constantly trying to get as much of it back So you got to lose some while you're trying to get it back right there And you got like you can't restore all of a hard drive

You're gonna still get some artifacts if you uh, if you got it, you know wiped you got to ask yourself too How is he going about recovering this memory? Obviously, it's just talking to other crazy people Is that I think because I feel like he's he's like he's given me the idea of a machine that he's or like Hypnosis or something like that. Well, I think maybe hypnosis maybe like regression stuff rare or a weird crystal therapies We'll get to some of his science a little bit. I mean, they would have to be moon crystals, of course No, Mars crystals Mars. There's there's too much too much sodium. So Not enough deep earth iodine Randy was a hero on Mars. Oh, he was he served valiantly for 17 years And then was in this big war with the draconians right and ended up becoming a pilot on the moon for the last three

Years. Yeah, Kerry did say that there was a big battle and he had to be reassigned They don't really get into much of it. He had to go Infiltrate like a draconian base or something like that and recover something Now it's a little bit suspicious to me that these guys are always the hero Like there's no there's no okay. I was on I was on uh, mars for 17 years I ran away from everything. I lied to people. I saw an insectoid. I pissed my pants I changed my name four different times because four of my friends died and they were gonna get rid of me So I was like, well now I'm this dude. Yeah, I'm genetically engineered to be a super soldier. So who the fuck who the fuck cares?

I'm the greatest. I'm too expensive for them to get rid of. Yeah. Uh, we'll actually get into Uh, some other weird stuff about the end battle Uh, and maybe Everything is so crazy. Everything is absolutely crazy. All right. So this next clip is uh, sort of About the end of his time on mars the end of his his 20-year tour of duty And he very neatly ties up some loose ends. Actually, let's get that set. Um, what year did you return to earth? uh Technically I finished my tour in 2007

But then was returned 15 minutes after I left on november the morning of november the 18th 1987 it To for you know, 245 or three o'clock in the morning wherever was okay So technically you were here at least in this 3d reality in 1987 Oh, absolutely. And then like I said, no, I then Did the mission for 20 years and then they called this due age reversing thing Which I don't think was really anything more than putting my consciousness into a younger clone body Which was just more efficient. So I wake up and think I'm still 17 with the pressed memory. Yes Yes

So So the body you're occupying now is a clone Uh, probably from the original one. Yeah, the original one I mean it's been blown apart 20 billion times and it's been rebuilt, you know a bunch of times too. So that there's My original body wasn't my original for a long long time because all the parts have been replaced at least one coin or another So he's now that's a good question. Okay. That's not really a question So you've got this guy, right? You replace one body part, right? He's still the same guy, right?

But if you replace all of his body parts, is he still the same guy? Well, he actually does explain it I don't I didn't keep this clip in but he explains that there's a connection in your brain The electrical impulses in your brain connecting to your soul Uh, and is oh we're getting into souls now. Oh souls are in I feel like souls shouldn't be in playing this one As long as there's that connection between your brain and your soul They can just recover and take your brain and put it in a clone body, right? Everything's fine But if that if that is severed that connection between your brain and your soul

That's how you die for real You're like a car that's totaled right that is like we're gone Okay, and so in this last battle that he's involved in yes He was lucky enough to not totally die But a lot of people did lost a lot of good men lost a lot of good A lot of good super soldiers. See this is bad writing Ha, yes I agree. No

Not in that regard. I'm just saying that this has the this has the ending of this was all a dream No, it invalidates the whole thing if you're bringing him back to 15 minutes, which again that I still believe Yeah, everything is 15 minutes. Yeah, of course you brought 15 minutes back after you've already left But you're still in your in your 20 year old 20 years later body Yeah, so what they do is they kill your old self, right? And then put you into a clone of your younger self Well, I guess if you left at like, uh, what do you say like two in the morning? Yeah, two thirty in the morning two thirty in the morning. Oh, I'm keeping detailed notes

These are the most detailed notes I've kept in weeks So at two thirty three in the morning, there is nobody in his bed right as it were so at 245 You do bring back a so you shank the old body Right, that's what you have to put him in a younger clone that is exactly the same And no one would notice exactly uh have to have the exact same facial hair configuration This clone would have had to been raised up to the point of 17 years Under the same circumstances and you would have had to time it exactly Or I guess because time travels real you could just go ahead and time travel the body to the right point

So that that's taken care of right, uh, but yeah, you would have to kill the old body Transfer the consciousness put it back And they are lying to you saying that they're actually making you younger right and he's like these fuckers Probably just put me into a younger clone right instead of age regressing Yeah, they didn't actually make me younger at all these which that technology certainly exists age regression technology So then the other issue is uh His whole idea that he said at the beginning was they the contract that he signed was you get a job At the end of it. Yeah, you get an awesome job

No, you end up with your brain in a clone and you don't have a job you're 17 right back where you started You're not even old enough to drink right and they've erased your memory So you shouldn't know about any of this but he's got a little bit of regression therapy going on It's entirely possible that all of us did this Whoa Dan this could be like the israeli this could be the israeli defense force. Yeah, that's where the idf is idf is part of edf edf Has your mdf's both moon and mars right?

It all makes sense totally makes it all makes sense. Um, so we have a couple clips left As sort of a coda to the the entire experience carrey asks him how things are going on mars now My god, I love carrey. Yeah, I love carrey so much. You wouldn't if you listen to the full things Oh, no, no, no, of course. No, but I love her right now She wants to know what's going on there and he has an interesting answer that reveals Uh, a little bit Do you know for example that the reptilians have been completely subdued or the insectoids have been subdued or Neither one of them or the skirmishes are still ongoing. Do you know that kind of information?

Do you have ongoing intel or are you completely uh detached at this time such that you don't get any updates? Well, I can certainly tell you that the last time that I was on the moon was in 2007 I remember the closing ceremonies that they had for the returning df officers and I can tell you what it looked like then But you know that was a good you know seven years ago So I don't know what they've changed about luna operations command certainly can't tell you what you know has happened on mars since Since you know a few years before that Since the last time I was there now. I do get regular intelligence reports weekly intelligence briefs from the brigadier We have conversations on the very

So I feel like When I know I have to trust that my people are telling me the truth on and there's certain things Sure, I can use my own abilities and I can remote view things and I can you know test things psionically if I need to You know Oh, yeah, he's psychic and he's got psionic abilities now And he can remote view things. Yeah, absolutely. All right, so I know you're very excited about the brigadier I'm a big fan of the brigadier. I don't need to know anything about the brigadier The fact that there is a brigadier period is my favorite. We're gonna learn a little bit more about him in the future

Excellent. Um, but so what he's saying is he gets weekly updates Yeah, like briefing weekly intelligence briefing which seems like it would be outside of the purview of this organization that wiped his mind And probably doesn't want him to be uh remembering does he have does he have people on the inside? He must have people on the well the brigadier The brigadier is the man on the inside the brigadiers are middleman But so here's here's the thing as he tells it He uh has clearance and they have requested that he make this information public The army the secret programs that he was in uh, they the reason that it's fine for him to be talking about these secret programs

Is that they requested that he start to disseminate the information? Okay, because he want they want to get the public ready for this stuff Okay, so he is like the tip of the spear in terms of so yeah, so he's coming out He's coming out to the crazies right now. Yeah, and then there'll be a steady trickle Of more of these coming out until we get them into the mainstream on knowledge fight Then finally when they're in the mainstream, uh, they they will release they'll declassify all of this stuff And we'll all have we'll all have already been kind of prepared and we'll have insectoid technologies. Yeah. Yeah Now here's my next question

To this man who unfortunately is not here with us today. No, although I bet he would call in Now I want I'm gonna guess that anybody who's been on project Camelot would call probably would probably still have a conversation here Yeah, all right. Um, so He returned from 2007 Now How can he be certain That the 2007 that he lived through is the same 2007 that we lived through. I don't know man I'm tired

I'm tired of trying. I'm enjoying this so much and I feel like here's it's very difficult and exhausting to try and wrap Your head around like oh, it is not this nonsense It is so easy, but yeah, of course. I mean just his I have been preparing for this my entire life I've read and watched so much science fiction. Well, just his presence on earth makes it a different future than the 20 2007 then he experienced originally right because he's influencing two space times at the same time So that's one issue. So that that begs the question While he was on the moon in 2007 right Was there

The other him the other clone exist now. Oh, it would have to be simultaneously. I don't have to be Right in terms of time streams. Yeah, that would be the only way to deal with so then the other thing that we got to Sort of wrestle with is And this is what I can't find evidence of uh-huh. Was he ever in the military in real life? Or is all of his service this other time stream where his clone came back 15 minutes later, right? All right. Well, how could you how could you put him in the military? Right. He was he was raised in the military and he is a

us marine in the sense that it's Mm-hmm the people who trained up Were they marines do you mean back when he was like 13 before you went in the portal exactly I guess because how would he how would he get a gig in the military for real? I don't know, you know, they would have to look him up Unless they didn't look him up unless they specifically go out of their way to avoid keeping tags on these people So in fantasy land versus real world. Yes in real world He wouldn't be able to get into the military because

Of the fantasy land because of the fantasy land contract that exists. Oh, there we go The army would be able to see oh shit. He was he's a clone of this time traveling super soldier That we sent over also is the clone a super soldier. Is it only in the brain or you know, what's going on there? Well, it's it's fully genetic. I mean, otherwise, how would he get these psionic powers? That's true So that has to have some kind of physical well, that's not true A lot of these people believe that everybody can Remote view and shit like that. Okay. All right. That's that's not necessarily a superpower as much as it is like just some Elevated human potential if we are dealing with clones

Then you genetically engineer the original But you build the clones from the original From the pre genetic engineering, right? Right. So his mom. I guess that's how you would do it Yeah, so if you're removing his his embryo First right you save part of it to clone You genetically engineer the other one that you need the super soldier You use the super soldier Then when the super soldier comes back you kill the super soldier

Put his brain and his soul into the regular body This is really dicey though because then you've got to make a sort of habit of killing super soldiers If you're creating super soldiers, you're fine with killing them. No, but I mean it would be difficult. They're super soldiers No, no, but that's the thing. They're I've seen the born identity. They trust you implicitly. All right This is fucking stupid. I did not expect this to go two hours How did you not you saw me you had no idea this was this is my element I legitimately thought there was a potential that you'd be like, what are we doing? No, no good god No, I'm away. Well, we've got the rest of this clip and one more to listen to before we

Okay, before we're out, you know, I I'm also a military officer when I can grab it with my hand Then it's very very real to me And if I can't pick it up with my hand and I can't stab it then it has a certain amount of less solidity to me So I presume that I'm being told the truth at the moment because I have no reason to doubt that I have every reason to believe that my chain of command and my superiors want to help this process and want this process to be successful And have provided a lot of information to me that has been honest and truthful and helpful and to other folks as well So he has his chain of command that is telling him what's going on on mars now Uh, and he's getting these updates. This is this is very I don't like that at all

Why because he's already established that they've been lying to him Multiple times. Well, they lied to him about the job. Right. They lied to him about. Yeah, a whole bunch of stuff They didn't age regress him. They put him in a clone. Yeah. Yeah Why would you assume they were telling you the truth? I don't know. He is a I mean that's that's just You should have a much healthier skepticism Especially when you are considering that you have the ability to use psionics and you can remote view things exactly Yeah, uh, so you we're asking about the brigadier. Yes, and uh here Is where he explains the situation and before he does I would like to posit my theory. Okay. He's talking to a crazy person

That's my theory. All right. Uh, now let's see what he says. Let's see if you agree with me or him Okay, now you've called him a brigadier and you have you named him by name. I've seen some names I don't know if they're specifically that person He goes by the name of brigadier general julian smite. I can tell you that There's the names on his driver's license when he goes home at night And there's a name on his you know driver's license when he goes to work every day and they're not necessarily the same thing So when I say that his name is brigadier general julian smite That's how I know him and that's how we know him at us mcss

But that doesn't mean that that's you know the name on You know his his cable bill that comes to his house. So it's a pseudonym us mcss us United states marine corps super soldier probably done. Yeah done. I would assume that's what it stands for nailed it So that's why he's a marine because that's part of the super soldier program. We're right But that's in fantasy land timeline In the real world timeline if we allow for occum's razor to come into play, right?

He just slept through the night of november 18th Uh and woke up fucked up or he you know did some drugs Maybe had some false memories Uh, they're possible if you go to like hypnotherapy Uh, if you don't see a very credible person, right? If you are not careful about it It's very easy to implant false memories in people. Well, that's how that's how um during the satanic panic Exactly two people were put in jail for Life for crimes that did not even happen. Yep

It happens very frequently. Yeah, and so my theory would be that that is what happened Uh, he has false memories, right and he's turned them into a very robust narrative that is fun Right and entertaining and that that fantasy land timeline where he was a super soldier did not exist He has found other people through the internet who agree with him, right and have their own fantasy narratives Right that they've decided to work together and combine and reinforce each other, right? One of them is a brigadier general who has a fake name brigadier general julian smith. Yeah, which is a great fake name It's not bad. That's a good fake name. So i'm guessing that he's getting these Uh briefings and this uh all these data

Dumps to him that are just some other guy Reinforcing his narrative informing him of like, oh, yeah, things are great on mars It's wonderful. It snowed the other day That's uh, that's sort of my where my brain is. I like it. I don't know if you're different than that, but that's where i'm at I I like it. Um I will say this I would prefer To discover

Exactly when he got his first memory regression. Yeah, that's what I would like to know I don't I don't know if I i'm aware of that. I don't know. I i'm not gonna do too much more digging on him I will I will tell you this. I did do some digging on him. Good. I knew you would Uh, and like I said, I can't find evidence that he was actually in the military in real life timeline But I did find a go fund me that he started on February 13th of this year. Okay, randy kramer has created a go fund me looking for $70,000 Okay, you might be asking what that's a that's like that's a new car And you might be asking what the fuck is he trying to do?

Uh, I'll tell you what he's trying to do. He's trying to create holographic regenerating medical beds Let's Wait, why do you need the holograph? Let me read you just get a regenerating medical bed. Let me read. Let me read Don't over complicate it Keep it simple in randy's heroic efforts to help research and develop earth's first holographic regenerating med beds His funds are running low to continue his awesome endeavor. He needs your help This $70,000 goal will help bridge the gap once captain randy kramer has these funds his mission Sanctioned by the brigadier general is to bring together large investors to employ full-time medical engineers

computer software engineers security services and other personnel an a team of professionals to develop his first prototype The eventual mass production of these futuristic hr holographic Regenerating bed beds means that we as the earth's population can finally have access to a technology which can one Regrow limbs perfect two cure all diseases including cancer Three age regress an older body to a younger body Four allow us to live much longer to have fun and contribute more. Oh good These funds are needed right now

all caps These funds go directly and only to independent field commander randy kramer The sooner we can reach this goal the sooner we can all get access to these amazing Elysium style holographic regenerating med beds Quote uh quoting captain randy kramer holographic regenerating med beds this technology cheaper faster less invasive less Traumatic it just works better costs less money cures everything everything Blindness deafness limbs that are damaged limbs that are gone organs that are damaged Neurological diseases. I love this infomercial genetic disorders. Why is this look?

Fuck The uh the the what's it called chamois? Yeah Give me give me a holographic Regenerating med bed regrowing limbs. It would absolutely fix and cure every single thing Even the things that our modern science can't not only can you fix everything cellular regeneration for life extension is not that even complicated We're very excited about that. It's not even complicated. Not complicated. Oh, well, then why do you need 70 grand? Any contribution large or small those the largest largest all caps. Oh, yeah $70,000 goal will be greatly appreciated by all of life's earth's life forms now and in the future

Especially the folks who are amputees right now and those who are in pain and dying of so-called incurable diseases This is a way you can be a people's champion. You can be like the rock Uh, this is a way you can peacefully fight for our right to live and be healthy by funding this super soldier space pilot modern day hero This one Small action may one day save your life or the lives of your family friends or community We all sincerely thank you for whatever size contribution you make to this historic campaign The future of medicine is here now knocking at our door. Thank you for your time and attention much love and respect Viva la libertad

Can you psychically interact with what the rock is cooking? Holograms, why do you need holograms? Why does it need to be holographic? I don't know also He's going to need a whole lot more than 70 grand. He might need an edit on that He's going to need a lot more than you might also need an edit on that copy. Maybe a little bit Uh, so this is this was started in february He's going to create things that will regrow limbs cure cancer cure everything in the world This is the most important thing in human history. Yeah, how much money he's gotten in donations. $600 $487

Hmm Gonna need to lean on your family a little bit more there, bro So, uh, I mean he did brief his parents. So that's good. That is good but So this brings us to the end of our exploration of randy kramer And it's interesting because this holographic regenerative med bed is very much the sort of stuff that alex jones talks about He talks about the life extension technology That the globalists have that they don't want us to have oh shit

Are you tying this together with a theme that somehow relates it back to alex jones? I am god damn it dan You're so good at this So that go fund me is kind of in because alex is never specific about the kind of life extension technologies Right that they have because why would he be he doesn't want to be nailed down Of course, but this is an example of something that a crazy person is promoting on the internet Yeah, uh, and so maybe alex is talking about the exact same things But wouldn't want to be clear about it because then you get mocked right So that's one similarity and then alex is allowing a guy like uh steel mr. Steel to come on his show

And unspecifically talk about mars bases. Well, we've just explained another prominent figure in the world of weirdos on the internet who are You know issuing knowledge of mars bases So Enjoy but i i dan There's there's been a lot of torturing though me that you've done That's true This almost feels like you're like listen jordan is running out of gas

We got to throw him a bone Which makes me suspect this next episode that we do is going to be fucking horrific No, this is more of a if if that were what i subconsciously was doing it's more like a you made it through david duke Here's this So there's that treat but uh, that's not really that i mean that wasn't my primary motivation though I'm glad it did turn out that way. I'm glad you enjoyed that I hope our listeners did too If you'd like us to do more stuff like this, let us know you can send us a message on facebook or on twitter

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Dan here's the thing. Yeah, um, it is it's kind of tragic that his Genetically engineered body is dead. Let me skip through this bit. Uh, john ravamport was on the show on thursday Okay, uh, and he was just saying the exact same things he said in the episode that we covered of him The exact same thing he's just he spent like 40 minutes talking about how the dsm4 Doesn't have any blood tests in it. Oh, no like that. So he's just like psychiatric medicine It isn't real. So maybe he's uh, he's just a hologram and the real Rappaport is fucking dead Fuck you john ravamport

That's the new sign off. That's the new fuck you john ravaport andy and chansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding So i like some of the same color i'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you