Knowledge Fight - #65: September 2-4, 2015

Episode Date: July 19, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan about the 10th installment of his investigation into what happened in 2015 to make Alex Jones join up with Team Trump. This segment has very little to do with Trump, but is a n...icely encapsulated tale of Alex being very stupid about race, getting his comeuppance, and completely ignoring being shown to be wrong. Also, Dan complains about that Bon Iver/Alex Jones meme.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding. Hello, Alex, I'm a first-time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We are a couple of dudes who like to sit around and drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. That's what we do. The twist on that, though, is that you.
Starting point is 00:00:18 Mm-hmm. Dan Friesen. Yes. Should I give your full name, or are you a little scared? It's too late to go back now. Alright, we can edit it. Call Matt, me, bro. I'll say Dan, and you'll just have edited.
Starting point is 00:00:27 Pretty sure most of it. Everybody knows who you are. Yeah. It's on your fucking Twitter. Anyways, Bitch, you know who I am on the street? I'm out there. This is already out of control.
Starting point is 00:00:38 I go to the store. I go to Petco. I feed my cat. I'm out there on the streets. I'm not afraid of you info warriors. I'm really afraid. I was going to say, you are terrified. I am so scared.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Off air. You text me all the time. What if they find us? I'm incredibly scared of info warriors, but be that as a man, I know a lot about them and you don't know anything about them. God damn thing. And that's where the show finds it's fun in discussing our relative perspectives.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Exactly. That sentence went on too long. Yeah, maybe. What do you got over there? We are drinking men's Anita soul. I feel like I've had one of these before. This is an apple soda. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:14 It's we're drinking apple juice with more sugar in it. I love apple juice. It's delicious. It's good. It's great. I don't mind it. I love it. Hey, our novelty beverage game has gone more towards the
Starting point is 00:01:24 comfortable than the disgusting much like Icarus. We flew too close to the sun with that coconut coconut juice is not going to be a good way to go. We'll ease our way back up to really bizarre eventually, but for now, let's stay with the soda game. Absolutely. I'd like to give a shout out to our new Donator. We got a new policy wonk in the fold, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Get on in here. And guess what? We know him. Uh-oh. He's a great comedian. Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to join. Welcome to the fold. Mike Wiley.
Starting point is 00:01:51 I'm a policy wonk. Thank you for donating. Oh my God. Mike Wiley. Great. Great Chicago comedian. Check him out. Go find him on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:01:58 We ran Wiley on Twitter. We ran a failed show together. Just one. Oh, I think it failed so hard. We're, we're good for a while counts for two. It was a scarring experience. A two venues, one very unsupportive with the crowd. The other very supportive and nobody ever showed up.
Starting point is 00:02:17 A lot of people like to ask what it's like to be a comedian in Chicago and 90% of it is running bad shows. Yeah. But bonding through bad show, uh, running bad shows and bad road gigs. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Uh, so Jordan, today we're going to be doing another
Starting point is 00:02:34 investigation installment. Yes, sir. Because I hate the present and I don't want to talk about it. I was excited. I was, uh, I was really hoping walking over here. I was like, Dan doesn't want to talk about the present. I do not. We'll probably, we'll probably stay in the past today.
Starting point is 00:02:47 We will be stoked. We'll be going over September 2nd, 2015 through September 4th. So it's a pretty short period, right, but there's a very interesting narrative arc that plays out, uh, and we'll get to it. We'll get to it. That's what today's episode is about, but I want to defend my
Starting point is 00:03:04 position that I'm staying where we're already on a defensive front. I have two things I want to talk about a bit like sort of general business up top. Okay. The first thing is I read an interesting article today that made, uh, a distinction between the alt right and the alt light.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Uh, I don't know if you're aware of this distinction. I am already furious. The alt right is people like, uh, you know, the most famous one would be Richard Spencer, right? Uh, and a bunch of like legit out and out Nazis. Yes. White supremacists, neo-Nazis, that, that sort of official position of the show, everybody gets to punch a Nazi one
Starting point is 00:03:41 time. Not just once. No. So the alt light is like Mike Sernovich, Jack Passobiak, Gavin McGinnis, all these people that are sort of in our sphere, these people that come up on Alex's show and we talk about it. And I think that one thing I want to say is that we call those
Starting point is 00:03:59 dudes alt right and there's, they make the argument that they're not alt right and they've split from the alt right because they don't want to be associated with the white supremacy of the alt right. So they're the alt light and they want to be treated differently. Yeah. They want to be the alt light skin color party.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Certainly. To that I say. Fuck you. Fuck you. No, go fuck yourself. Totally. Just cause it rhymes doesn't mean you get to count it. It's like.
Starting point is 00:04:28 No, fuck off. No, no. You, if you're in a barn, right, the out and out KKK is wearing hoods. Yeah. And the alt light is wearing the robes, but they took their hood off. Fuck you.
Starting point is 00:04:40 I hope the barn burns down with all of you inside. Well, there's a couple of things I want to say. First of all, alt light in, in sort of implies that they were the light version of that. Yeah. Which means that you are a version of that 185 calories. You are the thin version of racism. You don't want to be any version of racism if possible.
Starting point is 00:05:00 So I don't think, I don't think that's a really great defense. They're identifying themselves as pretty racist. We're not crazy racist. Yeah. We're the healthier version of these racists. Fuck off. First of all, second of all, I've done enough looking into
Starting point is 00:05:15 these people, especially through their appearances and the prism of Alex Jones as they come into our natural sphere, but also Gavin McGinnis looked, watched a bunch of his bullshit videos online. Uh, Jack Pasovic, I've spent a lot of time with Mike Sernovich, certainly. You have just described hell. You realize that I'm doing a lot of time with those three
Starting point is 00:05:36 people is hell. I'm doing it to myself, which is bizarre, but what I want to say is we all create our own hell. Now George, George, this is an important point. Yes, I'm no, I'm sorry. I'm trying to derail you. This is a very important point. The people who are listed in this, then the alt right
Starting point is 00:05:52 section of it, those people are some real fucked up racists. They are some out and out, like dangerous white supremacist Nazi types. I think they're a problem. I don't want to do a show about them. Very controversial point of view. I don't want to do a show about them. I want to do and I focus on these alt light people who are
Starting point is 00:06:16 alt right, despite whatever they want to call themselves. Please, please don't indulge in the rebranding of out and out races. Don't allow them to rebrand themselves. Cause that's what they're covering it. But, but, but the reason that I think that it's possibly even more important to focus on these people as opposed to the admittedly more dangerous people in the alt right section
Starting point is 00:06:38 is because they are how people get radicalized to the alt right people. They're like the pipeline. Yes, no one is going to find the, well, maybe a couple people, but a very small minority of people are going to just find the heroin first and go to it. There's, they need to be sort of started doing some coke. It didn't work.
Starting point is 00:06:59 That's not the pipeline. You get what I'm saying. I get what you're saying. Your metaphor is tortured as are we all by the alt right? Well, it's people start with like Gavin McGinnis and maybe they become a proud boy because it seems like a fun, fraternal organization. And then as they go along, they become one of the alt nights.
Starting point is 00:07:17 They become part of the army version of the proud boys and then a little bit later, it's not enough for them and they find, oh my God, look at all these other people. They're onto some real shit. It is a progression and people like Alex Jones, everyone who talks about him online positively says like, ah, he says some crazy stuff, but without him, my eyes never would have been opened.
Starting point is 00:07:38 That sort of thing. Right. They are the intermediaries to really fucked up radicalization online. And if you cut that off, the people who are really extreme will not have access to the main, like most people. Okay. I'm going to come right out the gate and disagree with you.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Fine. And I'll tell you, I don't think it's a pipeline and I don't think I do. I do agree with you though. These people to me are far more dangerous because they have, they have the air of respectability and normalcy. Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:14 I'm not, I'm not afraid of Richard Spencer. Richard Spencer is laughable because everybody can look at that or not everybody, but the large majority of people can look at that and say, nope, that guy says he's a Nazi so we don't pay attention to. He's Highland. Exactly. Now the alt right people who hide their racism, the ones
Starting point is 00:08:38 who you see people saying, you know, sometimes they say bad stuff, but you know what? Sometimes they have a point. Right. They're not funneling people into the further right. They're giving people cover to indulge in their proclivities. So those alts right people like your Psobius and Cernovich's especially your Paul Joseph go fuck themselves is right, which
Starting point is 00:09:06 is my new favorite word. Those guys are, are a way for people to argue that they are not being racist while still legitimizing their racism. Yes. That's what they are. So I'm not afraid of them putting people towards that right. I'm afraid, I'm afraid of them making the middle the right. Do you see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:09:29 The Overton window is moved. Exactly. There are all Nazis, but the guys that we are looking into to me are far more dangerous because they're Nazis who don't wear the uniform. These are the people who are really good at internet radicalization. Yeah. And so it to me is it is transitional to some extent.
Starting point is 00:09:51 What they do is move people into a more extreme headspace. Right. And so that is dangerous. I believe that for the most part, I don't even know how to put this because like the really extreme people are a problem and that they might hurt somebody. But there are any, it goes back to what you're saying. It's the uniform thing.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Who cares? Fuck all of them. Yeah. They all are menace. Do not allow anybody to pull this all light bullshit. They are the same thing. Just like we've just like we've covered Alex and David Duke. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Even Alex knows he has to publicly disagree with David Duke. Or not. Because well, but or try to he has to try to exactly because the if you put it to a large majority of people, even people on the right that these guys are out and out bigots, they know in their head, no, we can't approve out and out bigotry. This is going to ruin me. But if you hide it behind, I don't care what skin color you are.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Cops couldn't shouldn't be murdering people. Yeah. But I only talk about that when it's a white dude to prove that it's equal, right? When it's not or or hiding your or hiding your racist and bigoted views behind one black pastor who said something similar to what it is you're just talking specifically Alex Jones. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Yeah. Exactly. Well, that's but that's the same thing. Right. And the other thing that's important to keep in mind is that these alt light people who are right rough. I'm just trying to use that for the sake of clarity. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:29 In the descriptions of these these folk though, they still are super motivated by anti globalist ideas. And that means that their world view is based on anti Semitism and bigotry. Yeah. So just like just like we've revealed time and time again. Their bigotry is of the the, you know, hiding behind that globalist word.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Yeah, if you are, I would say 100% of the time if you are blaming globalists for stuff, you're hiding immense bigotry. Yeah. Let's move on and let me defend myself again about why I don't want to be in the present. I've listened to the shows. None of us want to be in the present. Monday's show this week on the 17th.
Starting point is 00:12:20 A lot of it was Alex Jones complaining about how robots got statistics, right? And he brings up very flimsy evidence for how he knew Trump was going to win the election. He's just rambling about how 60% of the public supports him. All these polls are fake, blah, blah, blah. It's nonsense. I had to turn the show off.
Starting point is 00:12:38 It's so boring. Yeah. Then Tuesday on the 18th. So I make this argument all the fucking time and I've made it even recently. I've made it in response to tweets that people have sent me and messages when they send me the newest hot Alex Jones meme. I've made the argument that this feels good, but you're helping
Starting point is 00:13:01 him whenever you play into these things that make him a joke and make him funny. You are not doing anybody any good. Now, listen to this clip from Tuesday's show that really just makes my argument for me. This is the present, right? Yeah. 2017.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Yeah. On info wars.com. Linking right through to major German newspapers like your spiegel. Germany's Syrian hairdresser hailed as a model of integration slits his female employer's throat. Wait, is that celebratory? That sounds like he's celebrating. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Do you realize that you're celebrating the throat flashing more and more, more and more. I am going to every time we report on people screaming Allah Akbar and stabbing men, women and children. I'm going to play clips from the Time Warner hit piece they put out via Super Deluxe where they make it look like I'm just making stuff up. Where I go, we're going to stab your daughter at the mall.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Don't stab your wife, your son. That was a real article. I was reading where the police chief came out and said Somalis are wonderful. This is an Islamic attack. And there was another stabbing like a day later at a university in Ohio because they had a couple of stabbings in Minnesota than one in Ohio, the one in Texas and one in New York and
Starting point is 00:14:41 then just a whole bunch of these attacks and the news was like we love our Somalis. We love our Muslims. Oh, they're so good. Oh, they're so sweet. There it is. Sure. I shouldn't laugh about it.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Syrian hairdressers. No, you fucking shut it. Integration. That's a quote slits his female employer's throat. And then they got all these articles with her groveling and talking about how nice he was. You can't play this game with Alex. He is really good at using attacks against him to his
Starting point is 00:15:16 advantage. You just give him ammo. It's not good. I get it. It's funny that Bon Iver video parody is funny. It's really funny in a perfect world. We could all laugh at it. But unfortunately, here's the score.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Alex Jones one meme zero. No one who like do you understand? I agree with you. I'm furious about this. I am furious as well. Because here's the deal. I mean, I don't sound like it. Generally, my furious voice is significantly higher.
Starting point is 00:15:51 But I absolutely agree with you. He has nothing in this story that he brings up to go over other than some guy who was an immigrant stabbed a lady in the neck. What are the circumstances? He worked for her for a year. Maybe there was a dispute at work. There's all kinds of possibilities.
Starting point is 00:16:09 All he knows is the ethnicity of the person. And because, you know, there is that refrain in the song, he gets to use it as, hey, you guys are making fun of me. I'm right. And now every time that there is some incident that happens when there's an immigrant that attacks somebody. If that happens, he gets to play that. He gets to rub it in everybody's face.
Starting point is 00:16:30 And it's not, it's not. I, I, I think our biggest issue with memeing Alex is that he is a complete and utter sociopath. Yeah. And he's a narcissist. So he's laughing about this. How can you, because that's what he's doing now. Every time there is a murder, every single time,
Starting point is 00:16:54 he's going to comb through as many murders as he can. And if it's a Muslim, he's going to celebrate that murder. Cause that means he's right. Yep. He's for murder. And he would be doing that anyway. That's his modus operandi. But now what you've done is given him more incentive to do that.
Starting point is 00:17:10 And it's not just going to be once every time there's a murder. Cause here, listen to this. This is your later in the show. Fuck me. Here's the story today. Germany, Syrian hairdressers hailed as model of integration. That's a quote. Same story.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Slits his female employer's throat. Wait, it's the same thing. That's a little over a year on the job. It's not the same. Slits his female employer's throat. Same story. Different flip. Oh, we love our Somalis.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Oh, we love our Muslims too. We love our Somalis. We love our Muslims. Oh, they're so good. Oh, they're so sweet. And so we'll play that each day with the stabbings, the killings, the Allah Akbar's. Oh, they're so good. Oh, they're so sweet.
Starting point is 00:17:51 And then we've got to bend over backwards and never report any of this is happening. And then say that we're bad. So congratulations, guys. Great work. Great work. Go fuck yourself, everybody. Legitimately. Not our listeners.
Starting point is 00:18:06 You guys are great. But I'm furious at the world. We're not taking this seriously. It drives me up a fucking wall. Like, we have a bigot with a massive audience. And the best we can do is thousands and thousands of retweets for this fucking video that he's just going to use as propaganda. If 10,000 people retweeted that episode we did about Dennis Montgomery. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Think about the effect that could have. Yeah. If 10,000 people retweeted the episode we did where he was drunk as shit on March 30th of 2017, do you think what effect would that have? We cast a light on this stuff. And maybe it's more difficult. Maybe it's certainly more difficult to take in than a two minute video. Alex Jones plays the entire video. The entire Boney Vare video coming in from break.
Starting point is 00:18:57 No. He embraces it. Yeah. And why wouldn't he? It's the smart thing to do. Of course. If you act like you're mad about it, then the people who made Super Deluxe wins. And for right now, especially in the present, where he's got fucking nothing to go on.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Nothing. He's spiraling out of it. He's spiraling into this repetitive bullshit, which for him, I think is far more dangerous. Totally. The idea that he's, just like you said, Monday's show was really fucking boring. Yeah. Now he's got this piece to play. Now he gets to have fun.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Yeah. We all had a good time, but now he gets in on it. I don't want him to have fun. No. I don't ever want him to have fun. Doesn't it ruin it? I don't want him to even have thumbs, let alone fun. I mean, this is the inevitable outcome of pretty much all of the times that you try and make
Starting point is 00:19:52 these fun memes about him. It's just, he's going to take it and use it and you are going to, you're going to lose. And he's going to use every part of the buffalo on it too. No doubt. It's funny to play the clip. It's funny to then get angry at people who think it's actually doing a good job taking him down. Yeah. He's going to fight against the clip and then it's funny as we just saw to use it as its own propaganda.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Every time he feels like it, it, it proves his point. Yeah. And it reinforces his idea that he's a victim because these people, he called it a time Warner hit piece as opposed to a funny video. Time Warner hit piece. Right. It just reinforces that shit. But here, here's the finer point that I want to put on it.
Starting point is 00:20:35 I tweeted something about this and I didn't, I couldn't figure out how to put it. There's a lot of it in 140 characters. Alex Jones doesn't have a sense of humor. He doesn't understand how to use humor. It is an incredibly potent tool in terms of rhetoric, in terms of being persuasive. Humor is incredibly important. You see it in any, anybody who's given a speech. If you don't have the kind of charm that elicits laughter, you're going to bore people.
Starting point is 00:21:02 And Alex Jones can't get by on his own in terms of humor. He needs other people to do it for him. So this Boney Vare video, and I know it wasn't Boney Vare that did it, but like this parody video does it for him. He doesn't have to be funny. You're doing the hard part for him when you make videos like this. Right. So everyone should go fucking fly a kite.
Starting point is 00:21:27 That said, still pretty funny. Still a pretty funny video. In a perfect world. It's not bad. Very funny. And it's a smart idea. It was well executed. Boney Vare has a very distinct sound.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Yeah. And yeah. If, if, if it, if the consequences weren't what they were, and if they didn't reinforce the, I don't even, I don't even know how to say, I'm just. Dan. Dan. Dan. Dan.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Jordan. Dan. Jordan. That's good. Let's go back in time. We love you. We love you, dad. Shut up.
Starting point is 00:22:01 We all love you. Dad, we want you to be happy. All right. Let's go back to 2015. If every policy won't clap to their hands right now, Dan would come back to life. I'm no tinkerbell. Let's go back in time, Jordan. Let's go back to 2015 where I can be happy and fancy free.
Starting point is 00:22:15 All right. So as the, when we left Alex Jones in 2015, September 1st, just announced that he was going to do a 27 hour marathon for project money bomb, operation money bomb, which we have insinuated. It's my conviction that this is the opportunity for big money to come into his show and persuade him to become part of team Trump. That is where we left off last time. We pick up our investigation on September 2nd and Alex is, he's weird.
Starting point is 00:22:48 He's very weird on September 2nd and he's into some race shit. My man, he wants to talk race and that's how you get those white folks to bring that money in. Here's the first clip he wants to talk, you know, about some murders and they just got announced again, homicide suspected in an off duty Texas officer's death in his home. We have another cop shot of course in Houston over the weekend. We have the TV reporter and the cameraman killed and much of it is black on white activity with Lewis Farrakhan.
Starting point is 00:23:24 We played the clip yesterday saying it's time to go out and start killing people that are killing us and that ties in to the different radio shows that are out there where folks are calling for the murder of police officers. This is tremendously important. He is just tied together all of his narrative that we're going to be discussing today in one 40 second sound bite. Black people killing cops. Black people killing white people and especially cops.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Lewis Farrakhan has come out and put out a video. Alex Jones does play it later in this investigation, but just to give you a short version of it, it's Lewis Farrakhan saying that if we are being killed and we have no redress, then what we must do is stalk and kill those who would kill us, which is fair. That is, that makes perfect sense. It's extreme. That's a, I mean, what else do you do at a certain point? It's extreme, but it makes a lot of sense.
Starting point is 00:24:24 When you have a group that is oppressed and has no other possibility of justice, like none, if the justice system doesn't even pretend to work for you, like if you don't even have a little bit, frankly, people would be happier if the cop was convicted and given just a year than they would be if he wasn't even brought before a grand jury. That's just the truth. And so if you don't have that, there is nothing else but violence. Basically. There's nothing else.
Starting point is 00:24:52 What's exciting is the voice of the unheard. But Alex Jones also wants to bring in a cop who was killed in his home off duty. There's no indication that that guy was killed because he was a cop. There's no details that Alex Jones has about this. He's just trying to loop it into his narrative to give extra boost into it. So that's great. Then he brings in these various radio shows. I want you to remember that because we're going to get to what he's talking about a
Starting point is 00:25:20 little bit down the line. All right. Various radio shows. Various radio shows. He's talking about one in specific. Who would it guest? Is it Kerry Callahan? Spoiler alert.
Starting point is 00:25:29 It's not on the radio. Of course. So here we go. Alex wants to yell about Farrakhan a bunch. And here we go. It has a really great end to this clip, actually. I got to say, Alex makes a very interesting pivot out of being really mad. And I think you know exactly what type of pivot he's going to make.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Oh boy. How long has the nation of Islam been on the FBI payroll? How long has the nation of Islam been on that? That nation of Islam gravy train with the FBI? I'll tell you something. I used to read that and hear that and I didn't believe it. But let me tell you, I've never seen anybody be able to get away with what you said and not get in trouble.
Starting point is 00:26:05 But maybe you are just crazy because you sure seem to love it when I talk about 1776 commencing again if they try to take our guns. But that's because it will commence. Not because I want it to commence. I was there warning him. He better back down right now with his red coat garbage and the globalist better understand that they're not going to have their takeover. It wasn't because I wanted innocent people to get killed.
Starting point is 00:26:30 And yeah, I tell you, if the cop that shot that black guy on the back who they've indicted doesn't end up getting a hard prison time or the death penalty, then I could see it. I wouldn't condone it if somebody went after him, but that would be logical. That would be justice. It's not justice to shoot some innocent cop in the back. Now I'm done ranting on that subject. I'm going to get to these videos in a moment and finish up on it. But first, Leanne McAdoo, the lovely, the intelligent, one of the anchors of the Nightly
Starting point is 00:26:57 News is here with us and the shirt is a little big on her. It's a medium. She should have gotten her small. I wasn't thinking when I said here, have McAdoo model this for us. I appreciate her doing it. People wanted it. They just came in on the truck. We have a limited supply.
Starting point is 00:27:14 We can get more in a few weeks. Hillary for prison 2016. This is the beginning of the Hillary for prison shirt. Yes, but when it comes into reality that he is selling as opposed to like he just stole that guy's idea. He just stole an idea. It's someone else's intellectual property that he's making a ton of money on, which he admitted on our last episode.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Right. Very, very ill advised, but what I'm more interested in is this harsh pivot from screaming at Lewis Farrakhan about being on the FBI payroll to being like, Hey, I understand it. If a cop gets away with killing somebody, you want to kill him. Right. Like, well, there you go. Yeah. You're halfway there.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Kind of get it out. Yeah. And then smoothly into also, we got shirts, we're going to say. Yeah. Well, the crazy, the crazy part about that, the anger is so fake. It's all, it's all so performative. You stupid Lewis Farrakhan. I got shirts.
Starting point is 00:28:05 I want to tell you about it. You know, we got to find the operation. See, this is why it's so much better in the past. It is. This is now, now he would just spit. He would just have spittle flying from his mouth because he, he's not angry about what he's yelling about. He's just angry about all the shit that's going down.
Starting point is 00:28:21 He's angry. It is a lot in life. He made the wrong choice somewhere in this 2015 period. Right. He made a bad deal and he's paying for it in 2017. Absolutely. By the way, I'm also still, I've listened to a bunch down the road. I'm still convinced that I'm right.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Okay. About my theory. All right. I don't have any comments, but I'm pretty sure I'm right. Okay. And one of the reasons that I'm sure I'm right is that Alex on this September 22nd show is out of sorts. He is just furious and grasping at straws.
Starting point is 00:28:51 September 2nd. Yes. Yeah. He said 20 second, I think. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah. The September 2nd show, he's just, he's, he's furious.
Starting point is 00:28:59 He's just, he's just an angry, angry man and doing a ton of race baiting. So I told you to keep in mind that radio show is come back up here in this next clip. I like to tell you a little bit about what this radio show is. It is a radio show on blog talk radio. All right. All right. All right. That famous radio station.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Yeah. It's basically a format where you can put out a podcast. Yeah. You'll hear the audio of it. It sounds like a guy recorded it through his cell phone. It sounds like an answering machine message. I looked into the guy. His name is King Noble.
Starting point is 00:29:37 He is a black supremacist. Already out. Wait. He's a black supremacist? Yes. I'm back in. He has 300 followers on Twitter. Love him.
Starting point is 00:29:45 He has 800 followers on Facebook. So a real, real wide net. This guy is hitting obviously, you know, dude, not to, not to be a dick. We do not have 300 followers on Twitter. I understand that. And that's not what I'm saying. I know. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:30:02 You're giving an example for how relatively nothing this dude is. Alex Jones claims to have 20 million listeners a week. He's scooping down that far to make an example. That's not good. That means you don't have an argument. If you're like, oh, this guy on SoundCloud who has five plays, look at what he's saying. What are you doing? What's the, why are you angry about nothing?
Starting point is 00:30:27 How do you think he found the clip too? It was on Breitbart. Oh, well, but even then, are they just combing the internet? Yes. I hope there's something that justifies us. Yes. Absolutely. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Like you want to just remember when we went over the Hamdi Ulaqiah situation, there were writers for Breitbart who just, maybe they have tipsters who tell them about things that they find, or they're just trolling for race baiting stories. They're just trying to find anything. Like how did you, how did you find out about a child on child sexual assault in a small town in Idaho? Idaho white supremacists who sent that little link to Breitbart. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:31:08 And it's always going to be the same story. That's how these things get traction. So I mean, that's it. And it's pathetic. And what's, what's the block talk radio? What? What does he say? Well, we're going to listen to it.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Let's find out. Alex Jones is going to give it a little bit of an introduction first and then he's going to play. He's actually going to play that super ducks deluxe video. It's just, he has it. He's a time traveler. Yeah. And the arrogant people that are probably working for the feds, if they aren't, they
Starting point is 00:31:38 got screwed over something, you know, by the cops when they were a kid or some racist. And now they project it on everybody. I mean, I had bad cops when I was growing up. Wait, he's going to say exactly what he just said about him. And I was sophisticated enough to not hate all cops or all black people. So he just described a group of people and then said that he experienced that same stuff. Yeah. But he's evolved enough.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Yeah. But he knows. He knows. He knows that's him. He does. It's him. He does. He knows.
Starting point is 00:32:09 He's describing him. Yeah. And the other thing is he also said that those people work for the FBI. Is this his way of trying to subtly say that he works for the FBI secretly? By the way, I'm not saying that. Does anybody not work for the FBI in his mind? Probably. He thinks we do.
Starting point is 00:32:22 I assume. If he finds out about us, probably going to be like, these guys are federales. Once we get to 300 followers, we will be taken down. There's no doubt. I guarantee we have more listeners than this. Just because we're shit on social media doesn't mean that we don't have listeners. All right. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:32:40 And so it's really just a bunch of babies that like to play the part of victims and think they're going to be big, tough honchos like you race war, like you have a real race war starts in this country. It's not going to be pretty for quote, either side quote, but if you look at the historical lines and armaments and the way things are broken down, two different groups can play at the game of going and picking people off. This guy talks about we're going to go pick you off one at a time like the lions pick off the, I guess you think it's wilderbeesh, no, this is not a good analogy.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Water buffaloes, water buffaloes kill more people, probably anything in Africa. That's not true. They're more vicious than a lion. It's hippo. So we're hippopotamus. This guy's ignorance and he calls himself the king, the Lord. It's all part of this narcissistic, sick, hip hop culture. Let's go ahead and play the sickening clip.
Starting point is 00:33:35 King noble black supremacy. And I want to talk about the shooting of the white deputy sheriff in Houston, Texas. Remind me of a Bob Marley song. I shot the sheriff to me with the Houston, Texas brutal execution before the public represents to me. It's his open season on killing whites and white police officers and probably killing cops period is open season towards the police department and the police. So now you got some black militant or some angry black man walks up and executes a crack
Starting point is 00:34:08 of cop in broad daylight. This is real. His open season on killing white people and cops is unavoidable, inescapable. It's funny that now we're moving to a time where the predator will become the prey. Yes, they said there will be a race war and that we cannot win a race war. We can't win. We're outnumbered. They got weapons.
Starting point is 00:34:29 They got drones. They got this. They got that. But I remind you of the buffaloes who outnumbered the lion. They're bigger than lions and they move in larger herd, but they're picked off by lions one by one by one, picking them off. Today we live in a time where the white man will be picked off and it's nothing he can do about it.
Starting point is 00:34:47 The day is up. The time is up. We will witness more executions and killing of white people and cops than we ever have before. We see with the Houston, Texas shooting and we see with the news reporting shooting in Virginia, it's about to go down. It's open season on killing white people and crack us. The Black Lives Matter movement wasn't enough.
Starting point is 00:35:11 We tried to appeal to them to let them know that this type of thing would come and would happen. They thought they were indestructible and invincible because they took advantage of the weakness of black people for too long with all this police brutality. That's enough. And now they've got, you know, I had David Duke on the show and I want, and he had the courage to come on. He had some great ideas.
Starting point is 00:35:28 I'm going to challenge King Noble, Supremo, Grand, whatever his name is. I was making fun of the Klan for all their pimp names and this guy's got a pimp name as well. This is ridiculous. You're a grand jackass is what you are, King Noble. And I want to challenge this, this guy to use his real name and come on this show and spell his bull here. Cause I want to try to explain some things to him.
Starting point is 00:35:52 I'd have a little more respect to you saying don't abort your babies or if he was saying don't take Gardasil or don't drink fluoride water, that's where the real kill is going on dummy. And it's happened to everybody. But instead you want to sit there and have the media use the few bad examples out of 330 million people that cause a race war. Do you have any idea what's going to happen of a real war starch dummy? We're on number one.
Starting point is 00:36:16 People are going to come after you. On the run. Number one, you're not going to just be some big mouth hiding on the internet. I'll be right back. So Alex is mad at him and the media for using a few small examples. And then he uses a very small example, a very small example. Yeah. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Yeah. I wanted to let that play entirely and I realized I felt it as we were listening to it. This is long. But the reason I wanted to play it is Alex barely interrupts it and there's a reason for that. He wants to paint black people as this. So he wants the audience to fully hear everything that this black supremacist is saying because it feeds into the fear that he wants them to feel.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Right. So normally if it was just an interview, he'd be like, Rob, there's your swarming. Yeah. And with anybody who he doesn't respect as much as David Duke, because clearly he allowed David Duke to have parameters set for their debate. Well they negotiated very well in advance. Right. But any other time he has someone on who's content, just they scream at each other.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Right. And he just cuts people off like crazy and especially like we had that episode where we played his Keith Oberman analysis. Yeah. He couldn't stop interrupting that. Look at this idiot. Yeah. I'm going to, let's start the clip again.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Right. We're going to get through. Look at this idiot. You know what I'm saying? Let's start the clip again. Because he doesn't need Keith Oberman to create fear in his audience and work into his narrative. Right. All he needs to do is make a mockery of Keith Oberman.
Starting point is 00:37:45 He needs Keith Oberman to be a joke. Yeah. Exactly. So it serves his purposes to fully play this. And I think it's fascinating because I, I don't think it's like he sat down and thought about that. I think it's just an intrinsic decision he had that is like, oh, I got to hear this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:00 So at this point he's played this guy who has again a very small audience on blog talk radio and conflated that with Lewis Farrakhan. And the two of them are making very different statements. Lewis Farrakhan is saying that we, if we have no recourse for being killed by cops, we should kill the cops that kill us. These being pretty specific about it. There's some room for interpretation or to have you, but I want to make it clear that this is what's going on at the beginning of September 2nd.
Starting point is 00:38:30 That's where Alex is at. That's his narrative for about the first 40 minutes of the show. What happens after that? The entire rest of the show and tell the fourth hour, cause it gives a fuck about, I think it's Rob do hosting the fourth hour, but the, the next hour and 20 minutes or so is an interview with Dr. Group about how people need to buy their products. Hour and 20 minutes. It becomes, we've already started the money bomb.
Starting point is 00:38:56 It becomes a straight up infomercial and they're just talking about Shilajit and various other things. And infowarshal. We've actually talked to my Dr. Friend, Dr. Gums about some of their products and it's pretty fascinating how full of shit most of them are. Like I want to get him on so he can break down like the specifics of it, but man, man oh man, people who fall for this stuff are a real special breed, especially cause these bottles of pills cost like 70 bucks, some of them.
Starting point is 00:39:25 They're very expensive. That's garbage. So, see that's why he can sell those shirts for fucking nothing because those pills cost 30 cents max. And once you start taking them, you feel bad when you don't take them, which may or may not be psychosomatic. Who knows? Or it could be, no, it can't really be addiction because there, there's really nothing in them.
Starting point is 00:39:46 No. Although then again. They still could fuck with your body. Yeah. Then again, we've talked about how. You can have sugar dependence. If you're, if you're taking 120% of your iodine intake every day, your body has to adapt to having this much iodine.
Starting point is 00:40:02 And so of course, whenever you completely remove it, instead of, you know, it's just like getting rid of any medication, you slowly go off of it. Or metal. Yeah. And these guys, yeah, like any metal, like any metal, like when we got off the gold standard, it wasn't just immediately. You got a taper off metal. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:40:20 So, Alex sells it as Dr. Group is coming on to talk about the biggest thing to be afraid of. It's not vaccines, it's not fluoride in the water. Dr. Group has the biggest thing to be worried about. Chemtrails. No, it's nanoparticles. Chimeras. Nanoparticles in the food.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Nanoparticles in the food. Yeah. That is a, that's a good fear for like 30 years from now. I think they're overselling it just a little bit. Maybe. And being very unspecific. But Dr. Group seems to actually have something else that he's way more afraid of than the thing Alex is pimping and really building up as what they're going to talk about.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Going broke. No, it's in this next clip. I got a big article at RT about the Hadron Collider with even Hawking admitting it's dangerous. That's right. I mean, it's just what I mean. Just everything seems to be activating right now. You can feel it.
Starting point is 00:41:11 You can see it. And all I want to do is try to have peace and have people live in peace and have prosperity. But there is a force, evil's activating what's happening. Evil's making its move. That's the big event. I mean, I think behind all of this, evil's making its move because it knows the awakenings happen. That's right.
Starting point is 00:41:31 And that just really came out of my heart right there. I got, I was beyond chills. I was like on fire when I said that, but that's it. I know. That's it. That's exactly what it is. The awakening is happening. And so the evil's making its move.
Starting point is 00:41:44 And evil's making its move. I mean, we talked about it last time. I mean, this is serious stuff in CERN with this collider. I mean, we're talking about opening up another dimensional. We're talking about opening a portal. That's an RT. Stephen Hawking says it will open another portal. And we don't know what's in the other dimension.
Starting point is 00:42:02 That's right. That's right. I mean, I mean, very, very few people were like, check out. Could be a portal. Yeah. Could be a portal. Yeah. Maybe we're looking for the gravitational particle or maybe we're inviting Cthulhu.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Who knows? We're getting a portal to really A. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I mean, with these sort of hypothetical things, there's outside possibilities of portals. But not the way they're saying. Even then portal, what they're like, what he's talking about is a miniaturized black hole. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Essentially what they're talking about. Which is not a portal. Yeah. Not a portal. But then also I love the idea of like, I mean, you could turn it into an Einstein-Rosen bridge. I love, though, the idea that it's just like this door is going to open up in front of you and like, who knows what's in there?
Starting point is 00:42:53 Yeah. Have you ever seen Hellboy? Yeah. That's what happens. It's the giant tentacle monster will come from the sky. I need to remind everybody that Dr. Group is a chiropractor. He is not a doctor. Somebody needs to fold that portal.
Starting point is 00:43:10 And who else could stop it? It's like the movie Armageddon. They get a ragtag band of chiropractors. And they really just got to kind of pop that portal back into place. Completely nuts. So let me ask you a question. I'd love to answer a question. And I'm not sure if we've ever really talked about this.
Starting point is 00:43:29 He's a chiropractor. Has he? We've talked about that a lot. I was actually just going to ask you what a chiropractor does. What's a chiropractor, Dan? They fold portals. Dan, could you explain to our audience what a chiropractor? No.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Has he ever actually outlined what he, what prosperity means to him? Not really. So he just kept saying, I want prosperity. What does that actually look like? I mean, I think it's, you know, how whenever Trump says America first, it means whatever it means to you. It's just a nice sort of catchphrase. That's what he's talking about.
Starting point is 00:44:02 You know, I hear it and I guess what he means is people are making a lot of money. Yeah. Is that? I guess. What is it? Like, how does that work? That would be like the textbook definition, right? I suppose.
Starting point is 00:44:13 But plenty. People having plenty. So he wants communism? No, he certainly doesn't. Right. So prosperity for all. Well, no, he's not saying that. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:44:24 He's saying prosperity. He wants prosperity. He doesn't want everybody to have prosperity. No, because then that's not real. Because then you don't have a real free market. Right. A free market lives on cannibalizing its poor. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:44:38 I just, wait, what's your point? I was just asking what it is that he or whether or not he's ever described his prosperity. In my experience, no. I just want prosperity. I think it's a mirror. I think it's just a nice word that you get to bring your baggage to and assume whatever positive things. And then you're like, oh, Alex wants that.
Starting point is 00:44:59 That thing that I think is great. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, you know, people talking about blessings. I want blessings upon everybody. Right. Right. That's a bad example.
Starting point is 00:45:09 What's your own personal prosperity? I don't know. I'd like a few more listeners. Aim low, dad. Yeah. Aim low. That's a good way to go. So speaking of aiming low, Alex with Dr. Group, they sit down and they get down to business.
Starting point is 00:45:23 And they, Alex. Do they sing that song from Mulan? They do not. Because Mike Pence told them not to. That's true. But Pence is afraid of getting down to business. Yeah. So he, Alex starts this clip by reading a review of one of his products.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Send me daughters. Stop it. When I asked for sons. Stop it. Alex starts by reading a review. Yeah. And then he accidentally reveals a negative side effect of his medications. Oh boy.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Oh boy. Oh boy. And to say, I just feel better in general, an overall sense of improved well-being to start at taking this at the beginning of August, I will be reordering. So thank you for your support and thank you for checking that out. And again, folks, none of us are perfect. It's a process. I've gone from job of the hut levels five years ago to, you know, losing almost 70 pounds
Starting point is 00:46:16 and having a lot more energy, a lot healthier skin. My mind works a lot better. Makes my temper worse. It seems to be like when I'm kind of in a haze, I'm not that mean, but all the products that info wars life are just amazing and they help fund our operation. I would argue if I, if I were a therapist analyzing Alex Jones, that's not good. I would, I would say, but after his bigotry, his temper is his worst problem. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:40 I would say that that might actually feed into a lot of his bigotry, his inability to control his anger and his temper and his fear. Those sorts of impulses, I think, are a really huge part of it. So maybe you should stop taking super female vitality because we know he doesn't take Superman. No, that, well, that would be too weird. So Jordan, this goes on forever, this interview with Dr. Group. There's nothing more homosexual than drinking another man's vitality.
Starting point is 00:47:06 You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. Yeah. It's like wearing a man on your shirt, which also Alex Jones says you shouldn't do unless you're a little bit light in the loafers. So this goes on for a long time. The Dr. Group interview, trying to push that product real heart, which again feeds into my narrative that I believe is the truth that he is trying to make money before the fiscal
Starting point is 00:47:26 year ends. Taxes. I want to say that when we did that last episode, I made it clear or I was just, I just mentioning taxes, I should have been more clear. There's a lot of reasons to try and boost your numbers before the end of the fiscal year. One of them is if you have loans or liens, those sorts of things, if your credit limit is contingent on how much you bring in by the end of the fiscal year, he could be in
Starting point is 00:47:52 a situation where the bank won't give him any money unless he gets to X amount of dollars. There's a lot of like bad financial reasons. If your, if your company is doing well, you don't really need to panic at the end of the fiscal year. You only really need to do that if you're cooking books or you're in trouble. Yeah. So since we know he doesn't have any real books anywhere, I don't think he does. He can't cook shit.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Yeah. He has a couple of books written by globalists that he hasn't read, but beyond that. So I wanted to just make that clarification that it might not totally be taxes. It could be some other credit issue or something like that, but whatever it is, it's something financial at the end of the fiscal year. So they do that. They try and push product. But before this, I forgot to mention that there had been a shooting of a police officer
Starting point is 00:48:39 in Fox Lake, Illinois, suburb of Chicago. I remember that. Yeah. Cause this was only two years ago. Shut up. So let me, let me feel joy at remembering something. Let me ask you if you remember. I have a very poor memory.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Please let me enjoy this. Let me ask if you remember this. Yes. Do you remember when Alex Jones sent Joe Biggs out to Fox Lake? I do not remember that. So Joe Biggs comes out and he's shooting some remotes and they're atrocious. They really don't have a good camera system at this point. So like he's on his cell phone and shit.
Starting point is 00:49:15 It's pretty bad, but he's giving an interview and there's true comedy in that him being like, I don't know. I'm down here. We're just going to be hunting down leads. So if anybody knows anything, just let us know. I'm hanging out at the Starbucks. I don't know if there's a, there's a manhunt because the guy was on the loose for a bit afterwards.
Starting point is 00:49:33 They didn't catch him. Yeah. So Joe Biggs is like, you know, just call into info wars tips, let us know, I'll go check things out. It's like, you're not a cop. This is not. That's not good. So Joe Biggs is there.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Boring interview, but he will be, he'll be making a guest appearance on the September third show. Oh boy. It's time to get to now. Alex Jones is in a weird headspace. Look, that's just implied. He's always in a weird headspace. We're talking about which, which type of weird headspace we're dealing with today's episode.
Starting point is 00:50:05 September third is incredibly fucked up. Never forget. It's absolutely. He does some stuff that is uncautionable. He says some incredibly offensive things. And then it, the way the show ends is unpredictable. It's a, it ends in one of the most wild flame outs I've ever seen in my life. So it's going to be really bad.
Starting point is 00:50:29 He's going to say a couple of things that are going to make you scream, but just know at the end of it, he doesn't feel great. Wait, even he doesn't feel great. It's about other things, but he doesn't feel great. Okay. Good. So he starts at least he suffers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:42 We're talking about how he's not into aliens, but I walk around and see the general public and our little kids, their eyes are just kind of open like, oh, in a trance day, just, just putting on fronts of how they're tough, how they're cool, how they're smart, how they've got money, all of it's just like reef with bright colors showing off to each other. Right. I'm not a stupid reef fish. I'm not a parent either to repeat things. I can see clearly what's happening to us and it's nightmare.
Starting point is 00:51:21 That's a very poor, poorly constructed sentence. It's just crazy town and people don't even know they're living in the beginning of a total dystopia. We have no idea it's all scientifically planned. We're starting to get, I've looked at it closely. It's very alien and I have no proof of aliens. I don't get into UFOs, but the more I research this and look at it, this is my mom told me that we're going to get into a UFO.
Starting point is 00:51:45 I'm a Christian. It's the devil. I just, that's all I can handle. It's the devil. I'm not into aliens, but this is the devil. Yeah. All right. I love that.
Starting point is 00:51:55 It's not aliens, idiot. It's the devil. I like that. That's his line of rationality is like, Hey, look, it's not this thing that doesn't exist. It's this other thing that very doesn't exist. Aliens are crazy. Come on. Come on.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Never to get into a UFO with a stranger. Absolutely not. It's just a very smart idea. Whenever you get into like a UFO, always check the plates, make sure, make sure it's your Uber. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. If you're going to get into a planet skimmer, you know, you, you want to make sure that
Starting point is 00:52:24 you ordered a planet skimmer, not like a, you know, galaxy spanning. All right. I'm about. I'm out. I'm done. All right. So I told you Joe Biggs is going to come back on the third and he's back already. It turns out that maybe they did get some tips in the infowars tip line that weren't
Starting point is 00:52:43 good. And it's also possible who could have guessed it's also possible that someone gave the police a bad tip. I'm not saying that was related to Alex Jones or infowars at all, but somebody saw something reported it. The police acted on it. They jumped and it turned out it was not the suspect in the shooting of the police. Joe Biggs is furious about this bad tip.
Starting point is 00:53:06 So he complains about it a bit. And then Alex Jones says some of the worst shit I think I've ever heard and you're going to have to put your mic down. I'm not scared to go out there. So we're out there running around looking for this because we thought this was a credible threat. And the next thing you know, you start getting people are calling and saying, Hey, there's suspicious people walking through our yards.
Starting point is 00:53:30 This and that. So next thing you know, there was this wild goose chase going on all night and till about two, three o'clock in the morning. And it was all because a lady lied because she wanted attention. She was a nanny and she was looking for attention from a family that she was working for and essentially threw the entire thing away now because of a lot. She's going to get attention now. I mean, I've never seen one of these cross burnings in modern times where it wasn't people
Starting point is 00:53:55 doing it for attention. I mean, there's been some real Nazi murders and clan murders, but not really cross burnings in yards. Every Jewish center we've seen, without exception, with the swastikas put on it has been fake. Every time a dorm gets a swastika put on it, it's been fake. I mean, it's almost always, I think there's been a few real ones total. It's almost always a false flag. And same way, women that claim three black guys rape them and, you know, carve stuff
Starting point is 00:54:23 on their face. Turns out that's a lie or a black lady claims white people raped them. That's a lie. There is a pension in criminology, just like men commit most murders. Women commit most of the making stuff up to get attention. It's just bizarre. They'll claim they're raped all the time. And that's why so many times the police don't believe a woman when she's claims that they've
Starting point is 00:54:43 been raped. There isn't hardcore evidence because so many women lie and say they've been raped. I mean, I just don't get the psychology. I don't get your psychology, Alex. So a couple of things. The first thing is that he uses specific instances like the Duke Lacrosse situation and that one situation where a lady did lie about getting cut up and what have you turned out she did do it to herself.
Starting point is 00:55:09 There are a couple instances of that, but they are the vast minority of situations. He uses those two specific situations, then tries to generalize them to pretend that most women are lying about being sexually assaulted. The fact that you have to use the fact that you have to look so hard to find these situations, the fact that it's so very rare that it's never ever reported in the news that so anytime somebody is lies about being raped, it is huge for one reason because it never happens. They're incredibly publicized things. Because it never happens.
Starting point is 00:55:48 Because that's not a real argument. Why do so many women lie about being raped is the thing that you say before I explode, and this is a real fucking thing. This is a real fucking thing. Whenever the Cosby allegations first started coming out, whenever there was 10 women instead of that goddamn 80 women that he raped or whatever. I had to go home to Thanksgiving with my family, wherein my little sister and my mom both said, you know, maybe we'd believe these ladies if so many women didn't lie about
Starting point is 00:56:29 being raped. And I was going to burn their house down. I thought it would be a good idea. Now I didn't because the giant cross burning didn't go well the last time. Right, your fake big cross burning. Yeah, exactly. Jesus fuck. Fake everything, every hate crime, every hate crime, every rape, everything, everything
Starting point is 00:56:50 perpetrated on somebody poor, on somebody oppressed is all bullshit. It's all global. It's all lies. But anytime, anytime something even small happens to a white dude, it's evidence of race war. Yep. It's race war. You hit the nail on the head, my friend.
Starting point is 00:57:05 God damn it. Yep. And one of his big pieces of evidence that he's been using is a blog talk radio show. Yeah. God damn it. Yep. Women should kill 40% of all men today. When we make the argument and if I'm one of them, at least I don't have to deal with
Starting point is 00:57:20 Trump anymore. When we make the argument that Alex Jones is primary objective is white Christian male identity. This is firm evidence of it. The way he treats things, the way he deals with, with like saying some things are fake and some things aren't. And that's your, that's your alt light. That's your alt light guys.
Starting point is 00:57:45 Yeah. Guys, anytime you hear somebody say alt light, remember they're fine with rape. And when you guys make bony, fair memes, remember that this guy is way worse than your print. This is monstrous. Yeah. This is fucking horrific. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:03 He's a horrible, horrible person who's leading thousands of people into essentially a race cult. So congratulations on trying to make him palatable and funny. Anyway, that was the worst of it. Now we get to go on. I am, I, Dan, I'm so mad at you. I understand. Maybe this will make you feel.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Remember, remember when I said all, if all of our audience clapped their hands, you would feel better. Never clap. Nobody who listened to no, no policy won't clap right now. I'd like to quote Jeb Bush, please clap. This next clip will get you right out of that funk. I mean, it won't cause Alex is still a monster, but he gets a call from a guy who asks him about his car and he proceeds to talk about his car for about 10 minutes.
Starting point is 00:58:49 All right. Here is a selection of the end of it. And I want you to hear, like, like just, I'm going to give you a sign and that means absolutely don't talk over this because the end of it is fucking bananas. All right. I'll just put the mic down. No, you don't have to. You're, you're playing with fire dad.
Starting point is 00:59:08 All right. So the Hellcat's war with investment because it basically doubled in value right after I bought it. You can buy them for like $63,000. I could have, I had offers for Dubai a week after I bought it for 120. They wanted to buy it back because they have to like legally sell it for the price listed by Dodge or they won't get any more. Well, all of Austin only got like three.
Starting point is 00:59:29 I hardly ever see them. And so now they're coming out with more and they're going to be a lot more. But it's just a piece of Americana and I kind of treated myself. But I think I might actually sell it because God let it on my heart that it's not really prudent for somebody like me that's got so much riding on what I'm doing, people counting on me to put myself in something like that. But I tell you. So I just want to take a break there to say, I mean, two years later, he's saying the exact
Starting point is 00:59:59 same thing. He's playing the, Oh, I got to be humble. I should sell it. And that's a perfect way to get the humble points without actually do it, making an action. And that's kind of his MO. So many people are relying on me, Alex Jones, I need to get rid of this Hellcat. I just need to. I just, I just, you know, it's like, it's like when Jesus kicked the money changes out
Starting point is 01:00:22 of the church, then he rode off in a Hellcat. That's Americana. But the other thing I want to point out is that Alex is so desperately like doing an hour and a half infomercial on the yesterday's show, doing a million dollar marathon a week and a half later, and he's talking about just randomly buying a sports car. So I mean, there is a disconnect between his personal life and the life of the business. He clearly isn't suffering at all for his art or suffering at all for the cause. And even further.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Like most rich people, anytime there's layoffs at like, well, like when they laid off a hundred copy editors at the New York times, at no point in time did any of the CEOs or a high-level manager say, Hey, we'll take a pay cut and we'll keep 30 more on right at the very least that would give the appearance of you guys give a shit. Yeah. I put 40 hours a week at least into this podcast and I eat ramen, you sons of bitches. No kidding. And I want to say you sons of bitches.
Starting point is 01:01:20 I mean, Alex specifically, not all the New York times. Yeah. Not the copy editors. No. Or the journalists. So Alex wants to talk more about this. Now, the columnists can all go fuck themselves. Sure.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Fuck you, David Brooks. Also, Alex could fuck himself for how much longer he talks about his car. What I really love about it. I'm going to this whole plug about that car, I love it like a woman. The problem is, is that it's absolutely me. It doesn't look like anything and it's got, you know, big back seat, put the kids in there. I don't like super fancy standout stuff like I love Ferraris, but I even had the money. I wouldn't spend it on that, but it's just too flashy.
Starting point is 01:02:03 So the understated stealth nature of it and the fact that it's 780 horsepower because it's supposed to be 707. The truth is they tested the drivetrain and they wanted to get under some government standards. It's really 780 something horsepower, according to car and driver and others. So you're sitting in a 780 horsepower car. It's just sexy and it's even sexier because it's more than meets the eye. And I really liked that.
Starting point is 01:02:29 I really liked it. It didn't standing out. Does it also transport? I've been on the highway. One time I was on 37, didn't have the kids with me and I was coming back from the beach. Kids were with my parents. Right when I got it, had about a thousand miles on it. It was one of the first to get them was I put the order in like a year before they came
Starting point is 01:02:46 out. Why is this on the show? So I waited and this guy pulls up one of these Fast and Furious littler cars. You hate Fast and Furious. Whatever. Wanted to race me and I shouldn't have done it but it was ridiculous and then I let him get back up to me and then I'd walk around just like fly on the road. So all right now I'm not in a bad mood anymore.
Starting point is 01:03:06 You just did it wild. Stay there. I'm going to come back to you. I've gone from being depressed and upset and angry to like feeling like I need to fire up Sarah. You know what you do when you fire a cigarette at the old movies, you know, it's kind of like that feeling. Satisfied.
Starting point is 01:03:23 I just thank God for all his great creations. What the fuck was that? He just said he was going to like he was implying that he was lighting up a smoke after sex, right? 100%. That's exactly what he was doing. In the old movies when you're satisfied. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:38 And then because he realizes what if I just said he's like, I just like to thank God for all his great creations. He's just talked about his car for 10 minutes on his show. Oh my God. I just fucked this hellcat. And it's a car. It's a car. Thank you, Jesus.
Starting point is 01:03:52 Maybe. Maybe if he just had like a car radio show, click and clack and Alex Jones, we'd be, we'd be so much better off as a country possibly. Or if he was literate and he could just become like a YA author or something like that. Oh, that's just created dystopian universe in fiction like he already has. Right. But I fucking love like there's those moments of unintentional comedy. Pivoting to, I'd like to thank God for all his great creations, right as he's going out
Starting point is 01:04:20 to break. There's moments like that that are like, that's, that's fucking hilarious. He didn't mean that to be funny. He was trying to, he was trying to save it because he's like, I just said, I fucked a car. He's so stupid. I shouldn't have done it, but this guy was trying to, I guarantee that guy was not trying to race him.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Yeah. Or, or the story never happened. I'm going to go with the latter. Yeah. I don't think it ever happened. Also, I screamed over it, but I like to point out that Alex, you can fuck yourself for not liking Fast and Furious and then referencing it. Dan, this is, he might have liked the first ones though, cause those were, those ones
Starting point is 01:04:58 were more street racing. Maybe we'd be better off if we had a car podcast. Fast and Furious podcast. Hey, welcome back to the Paul Walker report. Oh no. No, no. I love Paul Walker. Paul Joseph Walker report.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Rest in peace. Yep. So you heard there at the end of that, Alex Jones saying, I was in a really bad mood, which we've heard he's been in a bad mood for like two days now. Race war. He's really, he's, he's in a terrible mood, but thank you. Thank God this guy calls in. I can talk about my car for 10 minutes and now I feel great.
Starting point is 01:05:29 I'm in a great mood. This next clip hates race war, loves drag race. This next clip is six minutes later. Six minutes later. He's going to talk about his car. Six minutes later. Oh God. I'm not doing this for theatrics.
Starting point is 01:05:42 I'm not doing this to, I love doing this radio show and I just really enjoy it and I love fighting tyranny. I love covering issues, but some days it doesn't happen very often. I get in here and I look at the girls from the Gardasil shot having convulsions. All right. I don't like this. And at a certain point, I can't be on air. In fact, I just told them during the break, go get Rob do.
Starting point is 01:06:12 He does a great job. He can interview this lawyer about the police and everything that's happening in studio. And then they can do a whole fourth hour. They don't have to do it today. I just can't be here. And you know what? I think it's really just gotten to that point where the evil is so over the top. I just need to go pray for a few hours and I just need to really get my head screwed
Starting point is 01:06:38 on straight because every indicator is something big is about to happen. So Alex Jones, uh, six minutes earlier is like, I'm in a great mood now. He's a rapid cycler. He is like on top of the world fucking talking about his car. Hellcat fucked my car. Now I'm now look, every time I look at these ladies on Gardasil, having a convulsion right after I finished jerking off, of course, I just feel terrible. It's in that refractory period.
Starting point is 01:07:07 You don't want to scream. Exactly. I can't handle this. How am I supposed to be a propagandist? I just shot my wad. So Alex is also lying because he doesn't believe he Lee or I don't want to, I don't want to where is Rob do hanging out if he has to tell us to have like, go get me Rob do. He's in the news office.
Starting point is 01:07:30 The whole like the like the infowars studio is a massive compound. There's a bunch of offices and all of them have a gun safe in them. Now I'm very unhappy. Right. So, uh, no, it's huge. Actually now, and now I think that would be a fun little thing for most office buildings to have. There's videos online.
Starting point is 01:07:47 You can find a valox giving a tour of his studio and it's a massive, massive building to the point where it's absurd considering the overhead, like the idea of how much renting out this warehouse or even buying it would be, even if you bought it, the like mortgage and the, uh, the, uh, utilities would be outstandingly high expenses anyway. That's why he's against government control because property taxes regulations must be really high on his warehouse. Yeah, probably. But he doesn't leave at least not for the next half hour or so.
Starting point is 01:08:22 And in the next half hour, he gets a caller that makes him wish he had left. I know that I was making a pretty big point of this race war narrative and the fact that Alex is conflating a blog talk radio host with no listeners and Lewis Farrakhan. And I did so because first of all, it's manipulative and wrong. And secondly, because it leads up to this caller, who is great, Nathaniel in South Carolina. You're on the air. Yeah. Um, at the top of the hour, uh, you asked the question that I'm perplexed with myself.
Starting point is 01:09:03 It's kind of a ridiculous question. You have how do they get away with how do they think they're going to get away with George Bush murdered a million Muslim, you know, he and Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz and uh, how did they get away with get around the Reagan brought, you know, thousands of pounds of cocaine into the black community. How did he get away with that? That may or may not be true. About the incident in the Gulf of Tunk and led to a million and a half debt being amiss
Starting point is 01:09:34 and 58,000 dead Americans. How did he get away with it? Because they always get away with it. The reason I called is because I'm going to take issue with you about what you've been saying about minister Farrakhan, because you've been being deceitful. Okay. If you play what he said, what he said is absolutely on point. He said if we are murder, but if you could probably tell him a black guy, if we are murder
Starting point is 01:10:00 and we have no redress from the federal government, we should stalk and hunt and kill those who kill us. Now you have attempted to take what he said. No, but then that was integrated in clearly at police in general, not at the actual. Listen, I've said, I agree with a lot of stuff. Liz Farrakhan says, Liz Farrakhan said he agreed with my 1776 comment. There's some stuff I disagree with. I think that rhetoric, from my perspective, I disagree with your perspective.
Starting point is 01:10:29 I don't think he's calling for as much as the blog talk radio guy saying go out and kill cops, clearly. But I mean, I took that as just in general, they are white. They are cops. And I agree. So here we go. First point I'm going to make is for Nathaniel is awesome. He will end up saying a couple of things that I disagree with.
Starting point is 01:10:49 He's fire. But by and large, I'm on board with him, but Alex can't handle it. Can't take it has to interrupt and like, no, no, no. What he was, what Lewis Farrakhan was saying, I took it to mean all white people. And that's you, Alex. That's what you're bringing to the table. Yeah. Because that's what you're afraid of.
Starting point is 01:11:09 I could hear Lewis Farrakhan say that. And I don't think I'm going to be targeted. I don't kill black people. Don't look at me like that. I get what Lewis Farrakhan is saying. And I'm not here to say that everything Lewis Farrakhan says is sensible or right. But in this instance, what he said makes perfect sense. And so really the conversation, what it needs to be, and unfortunately,
Starting point is 01:11:35 Nathaniel doesn't really get into this. But what it needs to be is Alex, that's you. You're bringing this to the clip. It's not dealing with the source material. It's bringing something to the source material. Yeah. But he does make some other great points. Well, the thing that I'm hearing just in Alex's tone is listen to how much
Starting point is 01:11:55 more deferential he is to Nathaniel. He's very conciliatory in his tone of voice. But also condescending. Well, that's absolutely true as well. I agree there. He's conciliatory because I think he senses this guy knows stuff. And if I poke him, he's going to destroy me. If I disagree with him forcefully and not in just a patronizing way
Starting point is 01:12:19 that a lot of white people treat black people, if I don't just use that soft sort of push, he's going to come back at me. And Alex knows that full well. Yeah. He has his guard up quite a bit. Where are we on Reagan bringing tons of cocaine into the black community? I don't want to talk about it.
Starting point is 01:12:38 I think I agree. Well, I think it's Reagan. Never listened to freeway Rick Ross talk? No. He's a guy who, I haven't done enough research into him to know for sure if I believe him or if I don't. But his story is basically that he was getting cocaine and crack from the government and selling it to the black community.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Like he was the funnel through which crack came in. And I, I'm not totally opposed to that being possible. It seems like it's possible. Hey, I don't know. If you're going to do the Iran contra thing, you might as well introduce crack to the black community. Sure. There's, it's a, it's in the realm.
Starting point is 01:13:18 One to one. It's in the realm of the conspiracies that I think are possible. Yeah. And maybe even likely. Did Reagan kill JFK? Totally. Okay. There's a bunch of globalists that are above the law and I've made films about
Starting point is 01:13:31 Lyndon Johnson and the bushes and the cocaine drugs being brought in. I don't think Reagan knew about that. But George Bush senior was running it. So I've exposed that sir. I totally agree with you. But the thing is I just attack all the stuff that I see is corrupt. And I don't think Lewis fair con would be able to get away with that unless either intimidated the government, which may be,
Starting point is 01:13:49 or whether he's been given a green light by Obama. I mean, I played the clip whenever he said that Obama basically murdered Gaddafi and it was wrong. That was absolutely true. So I just call like I see it. You may disagree with me. That's fine. I mean, either Lewis fair con is just really angry and wants to go ahead and have a war,
Starting point is 01:14:05 which I cannot get, you know, get that. Or he's with the globalist and I don't know which one it is. What do you think it is? You, you can't, you can't take what he says out of context. You constantly complain about MSNBC standing, taking things you say out of context. What he said in context is absolutely correct. And I promise you, if some cop pulled your wife over and put a gun on her head and blew her head off and you had no redress from the department of justice, the federal government,
Starting point is 01:14:35 anybody else, you would take matters into your own hands also. Yeah. Well, I would take my matters into my own hands. I would take matters into my own hands against the individual. I wouldn't do it with a cop pumping gas. That's exactly what he said. He said kill those who kill. That is specific to go after the individual.
Starting point is 01:14:56 Okay. Listen, I was saying it in the context that he should condemn the black lives matter. Chan of give the pigs and all that stuff. People shooting innocent cops in the back of the head. Specifically that the people getting away with murder need to get in trouble. So there he goes again. He always talks about, I mean. Change the subject.
Starting point is 01:15:16 Well, and he always uses composition fallacies and like the responsibility of individuals is upon the group that they're in unless they're white people. Yeah. And then it's just a crazy lone wolf kind of guy. Or a false flag. Or it's a false flag. Anyway, yeah. Oh, it could be a false flag.
Starting point is 01:15:31 But yeah, Lewis Farrakhan, if he wants to be above board, prove that he doesn't want to war and isn't part of the globalists. He just has to say everything I want him to say. He has to condemn everything that I'm against of and really afraid of because my white identity is incredibly fragile. So let's get back to this caller who is, at this point, still pretty awesome. Like I said, the cops shooting the Hispanic for no reason in San Antonio better get in trouble. Or the white cops shooting the black guy only getting two years.
Starting point is 01:15:58 That was a travesty of justice. I agree with you on a lot of those points. But in the main debate, the way Farrakhan's been taken for a month, and once he said that, the change reaction began. So I can see your point. I think it's fair. But I think it's fair from my perspective. I'm not being deceitful or twisting.
Starting point is 01:16:15 Here's the clip itself. So if the federal government will not intercede in our affairs, then we must rise up and kill those who kill us. Stop them and kill them and let them feel the pain. Okay, that's enough. We've already played it twice. I'll let you have another word, sir, but I just want to finish up with this since you're articulate
Starting point is 01:16:47 and made some decent points. God damn it! I can't see 30% of what you're saying. I could have said it even better. And that's the part of this. I'm just exhausted to sick of it. Fuck you. At a fundamental level, hearing white people are bad,
Starting point is 01:16:57 white people are going to pay. That doesn't intimidate me. It makes me upset. And then I know what weak-minded people are going to do. They're going to do some bad things. So I'm very, very sad. I'm very, very nauseated. It's a place.
Starting point is 01:17:10 He's following the narrative. That's why I said he might be in with the feds of where Al Sharpton said the goals to get the feds to come in and federalize police. Remember that clip two months ago? When the feds themselves have been taken over by the globalists and the feds are the ones that killed the millions of Muslims that I was against. Also these two.
Starting point is 01:17:26 Hide, hide behind three layers of bullshit. And then he's against it. Then he's against it. And that Al Sharpton clip he's talking about is taken a while today out of context. Of course. And it's the feds funding the Wahhabis right now to kill the non-radical Muslims.
Starting point is 01:17:44 So that's what's going on. And he's saying feds better come in and do something about this or we're going to go after the people. He's talking about locals. And the locals are a patchwork, a good department, bad departments, mediocre departments. Some good, some bad. And it's just, I mean I disagree with you fundamentally
Starting point is 01:18:00 about the overall thing he's saying. I can see your perspective, but if you're honest I think you can see my perspective. But go ahead. You got 60 seconds. This is the problem. Okay. This is the 1970s.
Starting point is 01:18:15 Okay. Cold-cushed crew. Apricot, Bambada. There are stones from the 70s. Rap songs about cops murdering black people. Okay. And the movie The Departed. Lean out of the Capitol and Mark Warwick.
Starting point is 01:18:29 Talk about how Irish policemen joined the force so they can split a naked head open. This is not our imagination. You and I have been living under tyranny when it comes to police for the last 10, 15 years. We've been living under it for decades and we're sick of it. My son.
Starting point is 01:18:47 But this past summer he's 17 years old. We live in a decent middle class neighborhood. He walks home from the pool with his friend. He's been approached by the police this summer. A different time. No, I hear you. It's harassment. And it's because of a lot of different factors.
Starting point is 01:19:05 Old customs, racism, things like that. But also movements, the gangster hip-hop culture pushed by MTV. The whole cop-killing narrative then gets stereotyped and projected onto your son, which is going to get worse. I'm saying the cold-blooded social engineers, sir, are manipulating us all against each other. I'll tell you what I'm going to do. Rob Dew's coming up.
Starting point is 01:19:26 I got to check out of here. This is just too depressing. And I do this every once in a while. I'm checking out of here. We're going to hold you over after this John Bowne report. And then Rob Dew will come back in that first five-minute segment and let you finish up. Then we got a guest coming in.
Starting point is 01:19:39 And I'm going to go out. I didn't eat breakfast this morning. I also got low blood sugar. So that's part of what happens here. So I've got to eat. And I've got to take care of this issue. But let's go to John Bowne's report. That's what it sounds like when you lose an argument really hard.
Starting point is 01:19:56 That is... That's embarrassing. God damn. That's crazy. He has nothing. He has so much nothing. My son has been harassed eight times this year coming back from the pool with his friends.
Starting point is 01:20:07 Because we're black and we live in a decent neighborhood. Yeah. Well, that's probably your son's fault because of... It's because of hip-hop. It's probably because of the globalists making your son like hip-hop. There's always a white rationalization for why white people are so racist. What's weird? And it's always black people's fault.
Starting point is 01:20:26 No, but what's weird is Alex allows tribalism, racism to be a potential piece of it. But then Glance is passing it. He's like, really? It's more about stereotyping based on hip-hop culture that you guys buy into. It's always hip-hop. It's always fucking civil rights. You're all black panthers. It's always black lives matter is everybody else.
Starting point is 01:20:50 All black lives matter are this block talk radio show guy. Exactly. You're always judged by these guys and that's why it's okay for white people to do what they do. That's what he is saying. That's what they always say. It's been like that since the goddamn... It's been like that since black people were fucking slaves.
Starting point is 01:21:10 Yeah. How many more years are we going to have to put up with this shit? Not me personally, but I mean it affects me too. It hurts everybody. Yep. It hurts everybody. Absolutely. It's unfucking believable.
Starting point is 01:21:23 It also hurts Alex because his tummy hurts and he's got to go eat something. Oh God. Which is the fakest thing in the world. Oh, my blood sugar is low and I'm racist. That's like, he sounds like me trying to get out of class. That's the level of lie. That's like, he's in a bad mood that day. And so that clip where he earlier, he's like, I got to go pray.
Starting point is 01:21:43 Yeah. That is like me telling my boss at like 11 that I don't feel great and I might need to leave. That's laying the groundwork that in case I want to leave later, I can. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And here he just got schooled by a caller who has points and personal experience that Alex does not have a good argument for. So as he's making these points, puts the hold button on, loses the argument, pretends
Starting point is 01:22:05 he didn't and get Rob do in here. So then Alex takes the next day off. He takes Friday off, takes a long weekend. That's a good idea. I don't think that he, I don't think he had to leave. I don't think he had low blood sugar. I think he had a plane to catch. I think that he didn't need to deal with this dude's bullshit for right now.
Starting point is 01:22:25 No, no, I don't, I don't think he would, would be able to on the, I think any longer of a conversation and Alex Jones would be exposed a little bit more so than he already was. I think a lot of his listeners would probably just be like, yeah, Alex is right. This guy does like hip hop or something like that. So I think that Alex Jones might have gone to take a meeting or something like that. I think that there's some sort of business he's doing behind the scenes. All right.
Starting point is 01:22:53 And that's why he's gone for the end of Thursday show. He's gone for Friday, comes back Sunday. That's what I am. That's my, that's my pitch. I don't know that to be true exactly, but that's what I, that's what I feel like either that or he just took a vacation. That's entirely, I would say that's more reasonable either way. It's pretty wild cause he takes a lot of vacations.
Starting point is 01:23:14 A long weekend. It takes a lot of vacations. He was just in Europe. That's, that's good stuff. I do not, I do not deny anybody. I think we should all take more vacations when you have, I think that's a very American thing where it's like, Oh, it's bad to take a vacation. I support even Alex Jones having labor rights.
Starting point is 01:23:34 If he, I agree, but if he screams about like how he eats, sleeps and breathes this revolution and fighting the globalists, it's like, dude, you don't have a competent team back home. You can't have Anthony Gucci already host a whole show, which he does on that Friday. It's a disaster. But I, like I said, that's what happens on Friday, but the Thursday show that we're going over here, the September 3rd isn't quite done. So they go to break and when they come back, Rob do is in studio and Rob do gets to back clean up with this caller.
Starting point is 01:24:09 Oh, Rob do Nathaniel still on the line. They've kept him over the break and here is Rob do has no chance. Well, basically what happens is yet Rob do just has to let this guy make a whole bunch of points. That is, Alex is in this regard, do is going to get his shit rock. Yeah. He just gets a, they just do a jig. He just does a jig on his face, just a little dance, little dance on his face.
Starting point is 01:24:33 And then Rob do loses the argument very ungracefully and he's not angry. That's what that term would suggest. He just, he just loses it in a very boring fashion as is sort of his style. He's a boring man. Rob is listening to this, just in my office and very angry and I think, you know, very justified why he's angry. I just want to say this before I go back to him. If you start a shooting war with the police, it's not going to end well on either side
Starting point is 01:25:05 and we have to defeat this with the info war using cameras, putting this stuff out and just inching forward. It's not going to change overnight. I can tell you that. But Nathaniel, go ahead. I want to be clear. Yeah, I'd love to see the, the info wars video on police brutality. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:21 I think they're really going to help us fight the info war on that. I think they're going to do a great job revealing the concentrated oppression that has hit the black community through the fucking police force for the, all the years. They do do, they do do videos like that, but it's always about how white people are being oppressed and the police aren't doing anything about it or white people are also bothered by police or, Hey, this cop shot a white person. So it's great. It's good stuff.
Starting point is 01:25:50 But also the reason I pause it was, I wanted to point out that Nathaniel isn't saying we should have a shooting war with the police. So Rob do, even in setting up, going back to the call is misrepresenting the position of the caller who's up to this point, pretty sensible. Yeah. So that's not fair. Finished with what you were talking about. I can't speak for the, the, the idiot member of black lives matter that had that obscure
Starting point is 01:26:15 blog talk radio show that probably 50 people didn't hear until Alex put it on his airwaves and you know, millions of people here, which, you know, I got a question with the motive behind that. But again, we're dealing with an obscure blog, probably didn't have 50 list. Hell yeah. I'm not defending that. You don't indiscriminately go out and kill anybody. Minister Farrakhan is talking about is that 12 year old boy in Ohio with a cop's roll-up
Starting point is 01:26:43 and shoot him dead, there's no retreat, there's no way to get justice, I absolutely understand taking a weapon and going out and serving justice on that police officer, on anybody who would kill somebody unfairly and indiscriminately without them having no retreat at the family having no retreat. Okay. That's what any man would do. So my problem is Alex Jones constantly attacks the mainstream media and rightfully so for developing narratives and then running with them, whether it's climate change, day rights,
Starting point is 01:27:19 whatever they do it. Well, there's the only point I'm going to take issue with him. Not great. Yeah. But you know, beggars can't be choosers. He's doing a great job. I'm still on Nathaniel's side. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:31 Except for the climate change is a mainstream media narrative. Yes. That's not good. Yeah. I don't appreciate that Nathaniel. Yeah. But you know, I still think I can hang out with him. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:27:41 Yeah. We could probably, you know, argue about that rationally and civilly as opposed to someone like Alex Jones who would just be lying all the time. At least Nathaniel seems to have a pretty good head on his shoulders in terms of, he's not willfully misleading people. No. Anyway. So the right wing media has developed a narrative also and they're running with it, which is
Starting point is 01:28:01 that Black Lives Matter is the new third right. If you have some idiot members of that organization talking about murdering people and discriminately, absolutely. Are they funded by so-and-so? I haven't looked into that. But I can assure you. The answer's no. It's not an organization of millions of people looking to kill white people indiscriminately.
Starting point is 01:28:22 Okay. Just like if you go to any party rally, you can, you know, the left wing will always record the two or three who talk about the Nick Rose and, and the no good Mexicans. Fuck yeah. And then Alex complains that all of the two parties playing with that broad brush, the same thing here. And I didn't even call it to defend Black Lives Matter. I personally am not concerned with that.
Starting point is 01:28:43 I'm concerned with taking what minutes the fire con said and twisting it and then tying it to what that idiot at Black Lives Matter said. They're two completely different things. Okay. Completely different. And that's indefensible. He can't complain about his words being taken out of context when it comes to the Boston bombing and being deeply racist.
Starting point is 01:29:04 And then he twists the words of somebody else. That's my issue. I understand, uh, dealing with the police and, and, and things of that nature. I scared to death for my son. I scared to death. I, and Nathaniel, I could tell you this. This, what, what that, that radio talk show that we played, that, uh, that was not an isolated incident.
Starting point is 01:29:26 We have video that we shot ourselves of a open carry march and it wasn't, I don't think it was the new Black Panthers. It was a different group, but they were shouting the same things while they were armed. Uh, I think it was only going bang bang. Can we see that video? That's, that's what they were saying. And there was, there's other talk shows and those were new Black Panthers that were saying, you know, you should go out and it's going to be open season on white people.
Starting point is 01:29:49 This is not a isolated incident, but I hear what you're saying too. I mean, this is why we have to come together and have this open discourse. And I thank you for calling. I don't think that's open discourse, but, uh, you see what Rob do is tactical style is. Oh, we got a video. We just, yeah. We got a video.
Starting point is 01:30:06 Let someone talk for a really long time, make some good points. And then at the end of it, well, you're wrong. I appreciate your perspective, but you're wrong. You just don't know. Yeah. Also, I want to say this, two things. One, the guy, um, King Noble is not necessarily associated with the Black Lives Matter in it.
Starting point is 01:30:23 The only evidence that we have from the clip about Black Lives Matter is he said that Black Lives Matter wasn't, didn't get it done. It wasn't enough. Like, uh, you know, tried to, the black community tried to give understanding a chance with Black Lives Matter. Right. He was using it as a peaceful opportunity, like alternative to what, what he would like. Right.
Starting point is 01:30:44 That doesn't mean that he's deeply involved with Black Lives Matter at all. Right. He's also using like that as a conflation along with the fair con conflation. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right.
Starting point is 01:30:58 Right. Secondly, I would argue that if a group is protesting and they're chanting oink, oink, bang, bang, it's possible to be interpreted as let's shoot cops. It's also possible to interpret it as a complaint that cops keep shooting people. That's, that's a really good point. Yeah. So I don't think that that's necessarily a call to violence. I don't think that's certainly, that's certainly very well within the free speech that Alex
Starting point is 01:31:23 seems to care a lot about all this stuff. And I don't know if you remember, but that's exactly how Looney Tunes ended every cartoon. Mm hmm. Porky pig came out and went, but he, but he, but he pork oink, oink, bang, bang. So close. I know. I ruined the bet. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:37 I ruined the bet. Damn it, Dan. So did Alex. Yeah. So, uh, that brings us to the end of our investigation. Uh, I think that that was all a pretty embarrassing show on Alex's part, uh, you know, you start with him building up this black narrative, this, uh, whites and cops are going to be targeted by black people.
Starting point is 01:31:57 He gets an incredibly intelligent, uh, caller who has a lot of facts and a lot of perspective on his side. Uh, Alex can't handle it. And he bails. Yeah. Leaves, uh, Rob do to take the brunt of it. The guy, to their credit, they did allow him to make all those points on the show. That's true.
Starting point is 01:32:14 But I think that's just because I don't know why they did that. That is very weird. Um, I think it is, I think it is very much about, uh, the race of the caller. Probably. I would say that they, they would, even they are aware of the optics of Alex Jones and Rob do shouting down a black man on their show. Maybe. Or the audio optics, audio, audio.
Starting point is 01:32:36 Yeah. Yeah. I think they get that. I think you're probably right. They were, I think they are aware of that, which is why, um, they, which is why they dismiss him at the end of everything he says, right? Never engage with what he actually says. Just go, you know what?
Starting point is 01:32:53 Hey, I get where you're coming from by globalist. Yeah. Like that kind of thing. Yeah. I think you're probably right. The, uh, the, his usual tactic of harassing, uh, and attacking and interrupting would, uh, be like too much evidence of his internal positions. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:08 Exactly. And I think at the end of this is, I think we've heard a couple of things in this episode that are substantially worse than any meme you can possibly make about Alex Jones. Uh, so. I think one of the big issues that I always have with these guys is that it's always like they're always giving advice. They're always like Farrakhan shouldn't be saying those things. There's a better way to say that you should black lives matter should be, uh, you know,
Starting point is 01:33:38 it doesn't look like they're reaching out to white people. It looks like they're doing all of this stuff. And it's always, it's always this bullshit where it's on black lives matter to reach out to us. It's always on them like, like black people haven't been trying it the right way, quote unquote, right way for all of the time on a smaller scale. And this might be offensive that I'm making this analogy, but like, I haven't talked to my parents in quite a while and I blame the fact that they haven't called me for it.
Starting point is 01:34:08 I should call them. Yeah. Uh, and there's some, uh, analogy there that's again, not very great. I don't think that's a, I don't think that's a great one, but I get, I get the point that you're making. Blaming the other party for not reaching out to the other one, not reaching out themselves is ludicrous, especially when you're talking about the context of that. When it is 200, 300 fucking years of always trying to reach out of always being told,
Starting point is 01:34:36 this is how you're going to get white people to join you. This is how you're going to be able to do it. Never actually engaging with it. Never saying, you know what, this is wrong. Let's fucking listen to you. It's always, we want to listen to you, but you're not saying it the right way. That's what they fucking do every time. And that's the same shit with Farrakhan.
Starting point is 01:34:57 Like whether or not Farrakhan is actually, and I don't think he, I don't think even Farrakhan is saying that we should go murder people. I don't think he's saying that even in the context within, within which he said it. No. Where he said this, this is what should happen. He's saying what should happen is the redress. Exactly. He's making the correct point.
Starting point is 01:35:17 And these guys are like, well, he's not saying it the right way. He's saying it in a violent way, which means we get to attack it. Yeah. At worst, what he's saying is we may have to present violence to get people to do the thing they should be doing in the first place. Which is justice. Which is absolutely a winning strategy. Right.
Starting point is 01:35:39 As much as everybody wants to say Martin Luther King Jr. did everything by non-violence, I will be god damned if there weren't plenty of people who put out a real physical, you know, don't fuck with it. Don't fuck with us. Revolutions need two prongs. Yeah, exactly. That's what the proud boys understand. That's why they have their normal branch and then their military branch.
Starting point is 01:36:01 Fucking proud boys. Right. It's giant, fuck you proud boys. Absolutely. Fuck you proud boys. So I want to reiterate again, I'm sorry that I keep harping on this, but these memes are ineffective in battling Alex Jones. There's better ways to do it.
Starting point is 01:36:19 I get what you're saying. And I do agree with you in that regard. I mean, there has to be a middle ground though between a three hour Dennis Montgomery investigation and a two minute clip of Boney Vare. Strongly disagree. Like what do you, like, do you think we could put out a clip of Alex Jones, that clip of Alex Jones being drunk on air? I put that out on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:36:47 Yeah. I mean, would that be, well, I guess not. I put, I put out a small clip of that on YouTube. Yeah. It's there. Alex Jones drunk his shit on his show. Right. Yeah, we don't have Time Warner behind us.
Starting point is 01:36:58 It's not a hit piece. It's not a hit piece. It's just Alex Jones drunk on air. Right. I don't know, man. I don't know what the answer is, but at the end of the day, I'm really excited and thankful that we do have the people listening that we do. That is really awesome.
Starting point is 01:37:13 I really appreciate the people who have reached out and said they enjoyed the show. All that stuff does keep, help me keep moving. Even though I have to be inundated with everybody fucking sending me tweets to watch these memes that I know a week later. You're so resentful. I'm not resentful. It's just, I'm not mad at them. I get it.
Starting point is 01:37:31 I get the, like... Oh no, absolutely. I'm mad at the fact that I know from my experience with Alex Jones, when someone tweets me these memes a week later, they're going to be on his show in a positive light. That's true. So like, I just don't... Yeah. For everybody on Twitter, it exists and then it goes away.
Starting point is 01:37:47 And then if you follow along with his narrative, it just becomes part of it and it is neutralized amongst his people. Immediately. Yeah. Yeah. It's very impotent. It's not this, like it's not super deluxe's job to, I don't even know if they're really interested in actually working against Alex Jones.
Starting point is 01:38:05 I'm not sure what their goal is, probably just to make it clicks. Their goal is to make a funny ass video. Get clicks and what have you. Humor for humor's sake is not something that I would disagree with. Yeah. I don't either, except it's not. Unless it's hurtful or something like that. It is.
Starting point is 01:38:20 It is. Because essentially you're creating a tool that this propagandist will use. It's not humor for humor's sake. The end result of it is outside of your control. You've created something that will be repurposed by someone who believes that almost all rape accusations are fake. Racism is a false flag and globalists control the world. So whatever bigotry that lies in his heart is inconsequential and everybody should pay
Starting point is 01:38:45 attention to his dumb, veiled antisemitism. So what you're doing is you're helping him. And I don't know if people who are making these things don't realize that ahead of time. But I wish they would. I wish people would understand that the best of intentions I'm sure are there being a tool. They're a tool for Alex Jones. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:07 Although when you say that though, we can't control how people take this episode either. No. Like we can't control this is out there. So if it's out there, I'm sure there's a way to find something like I said at the beginning. If he wants to take a clip of me saying some shit out of context, that's in his narrative then. Right. That's what he's got.
Starting point is 01:39:33 Right. So are you telling me to stop doing this? No. Because I'll tell you what. Jordan. This show would be nothing without me, Dan. I know. But Jordan, you have it completely backwards because if Alex Jones did that and took you
Starting point is 01:39:45 out of context, then we'd get to play the Alex Jones game with him making fun of us. You understand? Right. So we're stopping the roles. Okay. All right. That, that I see. We are taking him in context and engaging with what he's saying.
Starting point is 01:40:03 So any attack would have to be taking us out of context or debating the merits of what we're saying. Which you can't do. Right. Yeah. So there isn't really a way to use this propagandistically for him. Right. That's true.
Starting point is 01:40:17 Whereas a meme there absolutely is. He's already called himself the meme machine. Yeah. He's called himself memes. Really you're just reinforcing that. Yeah. I know. I know.
Starting point is 01:40:28 And he is aware of us. He knows that he can't use clips from us. Of course. And I know that I'm a crank and I don't like fun and all that. I get that. I get that that's my personality. But this is more than just that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:41 This is sincerely, I believe, it is a moral imperative to not help him. Yeah. I agree. Good. If you don't want to help him, you can go to our website. Knowledge Fight.com. Where we've started selling poor male vitality. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:02 Absolutely. We're turning people into beta cucks. Yeah. That's what we have a dropper. Mm-hmm. Put it beneath your tongue. It's sublingual. And then immediately.
Starting point is 01:41:10 Takes away a 30 or sperms. Exactly. Yeah. You can get that at knowledgefight.com. Also, we're on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight. You can find us on iTunes. Look us up. You don't have a picture.
Starting point is 01:41:21 Nope. And now it has become an act of protest. It's an act of resistance. Also, you can find us on Facebook, just Knowledge Fight on Facebook. Yeah. Facebook. Edit that out, Dan. No way.
Starting point is 01:41:35 What else? If you want to donate to the show, we have a button on knowledgefight.com. Support the show. You can become a policy wonk. Thank you to everybody who's become policy wonks. We appreciate it. We have so many people who have been nice. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:48 And then now we have more and more people finding the show. Absolutely. It's great. Truly amazing. It's not as many of those. Watch that fucking meme though. God damn it, Dan. I'm better.
Starting point is 01:41:58 Feel joy. I'm better. Be grateful for what we have, Dan. I can't. We have upwards of 40 million people listening to the show every week. I can't be happy with that. And there's only one reason why. There's one reason why.
Starting point is 01:42:11 Because there's one man who still exists in this world. What's his name? I'm curious about this guy. I don't understand. Are you doing a bit? I am. I was trying to. Now I'm actively trying to ruin the closing bit.
Starting point is 01:42:22 But you didn't need to. Because I was also trying to figure out how to pivot that. Fuck you, John Rappaport. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan.
Starting point is 01:42:34 I love your work. I love you.

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