Knowledge Fight - #66: September 6-17, 2015

Episode Date: July 25, 2017

Today, Dan may have bitten off more than he can chew as he continues to give Jordan the results of his ongoing investigation into what happened to get Alex Jones on to the Trump Train back in 2015. In this episode, Dan tries to cover way too long a stretch of time, in order to get to the end of Alex's 2015 Money Bomb, conveniently scheduled a few weeks before the end of the fiscal year. There's a lot to cover, but thankfully Dan and Jordan have each other, and a guest appearance from their old friend, Red Wine, to help the medicine go down.

Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We are a couple dudes who like to sit around and drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Is there a twist today

unspecific to the twists of yesterday? I don't know. I don't know. I was trying to go with yesteryear and I was like, we haven't been doing this. Strange phrase. Yester month? I don't know. I got nothing. Today's novelty beverage is red wine. We are going back to our roots.

The show originally was us drinking wine and talking about Alex Jones. We had to settle that down for a little bit. We wanted to go back to the roots. And the reason was given to me by Dan as we're going to need to drink wine for this one. We might need to brace ourselves. Steel our reserves. Right.

That's not the expression, but no, look, I think that we've been getting steel our reserve. You know, we got a lot of food squared away. We need to cover it and steel. Right. And you know nothing about Alex. I don't know anything about the show. I know a lot about Alex Jones. Jordan over there does not know much about him.

I'm just excited. We're drinking again. Amen. Uh, three. One of the reasons was I was listening back to our last episode and I realized I was way too mad about the people who were posting the bony fair video meme of Alex Jones. You was very pissed.

I was right. But I was way too mad and I don't like that. I want to, that's not what this show is supposed to be. I don't want to turn into some Alex Jones facsimile where I'm screaming and everybody's doing this wrong and all that's true. I felt really like self-conscious about it. I'm like, well, the only solution is let's get drunk.

Well, I mean, I have actually been having the same kind of thoughts recently where it's like, are we just becoming the anti Alex Jones? Like there's been a couple of things where I've, I've noticed like listening back, uh, it's like, Oh, that's exactly what he does. But we don't build up false narratives for a specific purpose. You know, like, I don't think we do that,

but we tear down false narratives for a specific purpose, which is, so we're just the anti Alex Jones. We're tearing down those narratives for the sake of tearing them down because they're lies. Right. So I think it's okay. We're like Reagan. Right.

Tear down that lie wall. But to get back to that. God, I hope David Hasselhoff closes out this episode. He definitely will. He comes in the money bomb. Really? Okay. So, like, I want to also say that like,

now we have me watch star David Hasselhoff. And, uh, He is air recording, I'm back up vocals. Um, I want to say that about that, uh, Bonnie, their video, I'm totally right. Uh, Alex Jones just announced twice. We have confirmed Dan is right.

Uh, self confirmed. Well, Alex Jones, uh, just at the end of last week, that's just a $20,000 contest for people to make parody versions of this parody song about him. Yep. And that's what I am saying. He's going to do. That's what he does all the time with this.

No, you have been proven right, but, uh, you know, it's a little gauche to talk about it yourself. You know, you should have given me a little cue. I've been like, Dan, you're so right. The reason I brought it up and maybe forced, uh, self congratulatory note is because I know exactly what the plan is for what this contest is going to achieve. He's basically going to have all the,

he's posted all the lyrics of the parody song on his website on info wars.com and what he's going to have people do and the winner who ends up winning this $10,000 of the $20,000 because it's broken down. It's three prizes. One for best parody. Uh, that's 10,000. Right.

$5,000 will be awarded to the person who films it in the weird or best location. Their video is in the, I don't know what that means. My Congress, is that a, is that a way to avoid paying out that 5,000 probably. Yeah. So, but like, I know what he's going to do. All the, all the lyrics are there.

My sex dungeon is the weirdest location. It's super weird. That's super weird, but I'm not giving you five grand for it. It is a way that he is going to essentially get people to try and reinforce the lines in that song that people are making fun of. Yeah. So it'll be like, uh, we love our Somalis and then, you

know, flash up on the screen, something about how Somalis kill people. Yeah. It's going to be a thing where he takes his propaganda and it's reinforced through the use of that parody song. It's like, oh, they're making fun of all this stuff. All of it's true. They do want to eat babies.

Yeah. Stuff like that. And it's like, you guys are fighting a losing battle. So anyway, it's going to be a bummer. But the good news is way less people will see that parody version than the Tony Fair version. So there's some, uh, something to be said for that. I don't know.

Let's get into greener pastures and happy things. I'd like to give a shout out to a couple of new donators. Oh, shit. A couple. That's right. Like to give a shout out to our new friend Rex. What's going on out there? I'm a policy wonk.

Thank you for donating Rex. If you're Rex Tillerson, you have to let us know. It's not. It's rex. How dare you Rex Tillerson? It's Rex from our favorite pro wrestling themed punk band, the razor Ramones. All right.

Well, then never mind Rex. I'm a huge fan of you. Yeah. You're the best Rex of the Rexes we've mentioned. Also, I'd like to give a shout out to our other new Donator. What's up, Anthony? I'm a policy wonk.

Welcome aboard. If that's Anthony Weiner, I'm just going to do this every single time you give a first name. It's actually Anthony Kumeya. Post of the fourth hour of the Alex Jones program periodically. Anyway, Jordan, let's get things started. I like the idea that Info Wars employees actually stealth donate to us just going like, please get us out of this.

He won't. He won't let us leave. Yeah. He won't let us leave. Just take him down. Somebody only you can destroy him today. We're going to be going over investigation. The 11th installment of the investigation where we go through

2015 and find out what the fuck happened to make Alex Jones go crazy. Yes. And today we'll be going through September 6th to September 17th. This is this is inexplicable. What? Like when did this this started in June?

What are? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Our investigation began June 15th. The day that Donald Trump announced his candidacy. How is this still? How is this still going on? Shouldn't it be over by now? Very.

I expected it to be especially with his his full on like now he's he's going 1776. You know that you mean in 2017. Yeah, yeah. Shouldn't he be shouldn't he be on the train by now? What's going on? You think you would have made some sort of substantial move and we just have not seen that yet.

No, not at all. No, today we're going to be going over like is it September 6th to the one the 17th. The reason that's important is the end of his big money bomb which we've discussed and it's what I have speculated is the opportunity for bizarro money to come flowing into the show. Yeah, I think that might I have speculated that might be the case.

I don't know. So does he get into like a tube and a lot of one dollar bills kind of get vacuumed around him? You know, like one of the big air jets. Yeah, it would be better to grab as many of them as he can in order to Larry Nichols. I know you have lung cancer, but get in the tube. If you want your bills covered get in the tube.

I don't know. It would be better. That's way more fun that don't give out $10,000 prices. No, just fly somebody out, put them in a tube and throw one dollar bills at them the whole time. That'd be perfect. That'd be great. I would be way more happy with that than 10 grand.

I probably would too for the story. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, of course. So money's just money. You can't take it with you when you go and seeing as how we're all going and like 10 to 15 years max. Oh, that seems high. Oh, yeah.

But you know what? Before we go before we die, everyone needs to listen to this out of context drop from Alex Jones. God bless you, man. I'm sorry for your son. They didn't get his soul though. And see, I don't know how that works when they brain damage a baby and they never attain full consciousness.

I guess that soul just ends up when they die going right to God. So in a way it's a reprieve. I can't judge to the globalist know a lot of this stuff. I wonder if they wouldn't be killing brain killing kids of soft killing them mind killing them if they thought they weren't still getting the soul because that's what they really want.

So maybe they think when they're all brain damaged and get all craze and then get older that they'll get smart enough to get corrupted and maybe possessed. I don't know. I mean, I'm trying to figure out why these demons from whatever dimension they come from want to brain damage the kids because I know God doesn't damn people to hell that never were conscious.

I don't know. It's just food for thought. Food for thought. Why is that food for thought? I don't know. Also, I love the the mind killer reference to gang gang dance. Everybody knows that certain.

That's what it was exactly. Yeah, it's a great song. It's a great song. Jordan, I completely fucked up. I forgot that I know I forgot the bone of air video was great. No, I forgot that I had another thing I wanted to discuss before we got into our main episode. Okay, so guys forgive me, but I have another clip that we need

to listen to. Okay, because it's great recently. I don't have permission to play this, but I'm going to anyway. I hope he doesn't sue me. All right. Recently, Jimmy Pardo on Never Not Funny had Tom Arnold as a guest and Tom Arnold had a very interesting story about some of the people that are involved in our universe.

Okay, Alex Jones comes up in this clip. Yeah, Mike Cernovich comes up in this clip and alleged Nazi Jesse James comes up in this clip. This when I heard Sandra Bullock also alleged Nazi. No, no, no, no, no, no, come on. When I heard this, I squealed with delight and I want to play this for those of you out in the world who do not have Never Not Funny.

Don't get the episodes. Please enjoy Tom Arnold being cool as shit. Well, here's what happened. Here's last week. This is a right, right guy, white, a supremacist guy challenges me to a fight. He said, oh, I go good. We'll do it for charity because I do these charity boxing matches.

I fought my old rabbi who made 300 grand for Ben Tshuba. I go, I will fight you for money and good. It will take your fans and then all of a sudden this guy named Jesse James Horses says, I'll represent Mike Cernovich. This is the guy's name. Oh, that idiot. Yeah, yeah. And Jesse James says, I will fight Tom Arnold's a pussy.

I'll fight. And I go, women, are you the Jesse James that that cheated on his awesome wife with the stripper with the swastika tattoo and lost his family? Because there's a lot of Jesse James out there. I don't know who's who. Apparently it was. Okay.

Oh, good. That'll be even better because I know I'll kick your ass. And by the way, that only gets more money. So let's do this thing. Okay. And so and then I get the Joe Carter has a producer director. He's helped set it up like this is really happening. We're going to do it at the Beverly Hilton and we're going

to make a million dollars to help Gold Star families and a post-traumatic stress organization involvement. It's great. It's great fun and they go on that that if a war show. Yes. And they say I'm a pussy and whatever and challenge me. And I'm like, hey, they're promoting this. This is awesome.

And, you know, all his fans are calling me names and what a this is just great, you know, and then they pushed out. Why do they wish out? Oh, because they realized that everything they do like Jesse James, now sells guns and that service guy. He wrote a book called gorilla man or something like is about that he promotes. He says there's also say is day rape and men, they're

pussies now and you got me to everything they do. If they were on if they were on video, getting their ass kicked by a cop by me, which they wouldn't happen just like where have I, unfortunately, then everything they did say means nothing. Right. And that's what really happened. And so they would lose everything.

So they, they pushed out on that. That's slightly different than the version that Mike Sernovich tells. Also, I believe it way more up. Absolutely. Yeah. Also, I'll tell you this. We get to use that clip.

A part of a part of headline to show that I was emceeing at Zany's. Yeah. And he talked shit about me for 20 minutes. So come at me part. Oh, sure. All right. We got the we got the goat.

We got the implicit go ahead. Also, how great would that be if we just end up in a in some sort of bizarre feud about using a clip of Tom Arnold talking shit on Sernovich. But I mean, that, that I there's a couple of things that I fucking love and that is that Tom Arnold does realize that Mike Sernovich going on info wars and calling Tom Arnold a pussy after they had already agreed to have a celebrity boxing

match is just another version of promotion. Right. He gets it. He gets that pro wrestling and he perfectly assesses why they couldn't follow through. He has if if Tom Arnold doesn't have his shit beat out of them. Yeah.

Then the like like he said it's the whole game is over even if it's close like it like oh even if it's close it's a disaster for Sernovich or Jesse James. You got beat up by Tom Arnold that you got beat up by the star of the stupid. If I did I wouldn't feel bad about it. It would probably be like yeah. I would do it for the experience.

I probably that would be fun anyway. Do I get to go into a money tube afterwards anyway. I just like bring you do his rabbi has that set up on the side of the stage. I just like to is that a is that a stealth racist thing about Jews. It wasn't but now I realize it sounds bad. Well anyway I just like to bring up any time in pop culture

we get evidence that these dudes are wack as fuck. Yeah. So yeah behind the scenes they had already agreed to it is what his point is and then they back out. Yep. That is that is the most beta cuck move you can do especially Mike Sernovich challenging him and then getting biker Jesse James to stand in for him.

Right. I use you as tribute or whatever. Yeah. Yeah he wasn't calling the mountain. You know. Yeah exactly so let's get to the episode Jordan. Yes let's do it. We've had our fun now let's get shit faced and talk shit.

Yeah we're going to start on September 6th and that is a Sunday show so we know that Alex Jones likes to launch soft and narratives on his Sunday shows and I feel like we've done a decent job of saying where we left off the money bomb is coming up Alex Jones is clearly needing money at the end of the fiscal year needs to try and raise a million dollars and at this point he is only said basically that he likes what Trump is saying but he doesn't trust him still

loves Rand Paul. Yeah. There we go. We're up to speed. This this September 6th we're going to start exactly how Alex Jones starts the show. Every day I start the broadcast and I'm just honest with you. Wow we got a lot of news and usually I cover about 20% is

honest some days I cover 60 70% of it every once in a while I cover 90 some percent of it. Nope. Usually you cover days one of the days I really should cover all percent of it. Maybe maybe eight yeah maybe a head because when you look at this world there are two types of people when you boil it all down there's different subgroups but there's dogs and there's

cats. All right well killing this article right here yourself right now national post your cat doesn't love you scientific studies show. I don't need a scientific study to show me that my cat and I do have one cat and two dogs does not love me because no animal has ever loved its mother and make biscuits on my stomach in an infantile manner but it could carry less of a

fell down and died tomorrow. It doesn't have anxiety when I'm gone except it wants to bitch and gripe and ask for food it wants a free hand up dogs on the other hand basically die and have heart attacks if something happened to me and that's clear and it's that spiritual connection it's that honorableness of the dog which isn't perfect but it has honor silly and ignorant but has guts and guts is enough is why I'm a dog person and not

a cat person great. What was people out there think they're getting ahead. Oh it's still going. Oh yeah folks that think they're getting ahead not caring about their folks you think you're cool only caring about yourself you're an idiot. Yeah. It's like people that get in a hot tub and take a crap and I

hate to be gross here. He's getting away with it. Go to the bathroom and you crap on everyone else you're crapping on yourself and these are just elementary understandings here. Right. Cats are not pack animals unless you look at lions in Africa and they still feed on each unless you look at the

cats who are creatures of honor first and foremost and amen if I had to have an archetypal totem animal would be the dog. No cats are cute cats are funny but make no mistake they won't be there for you when you're in a jam and if somebody comes in your house and attacks you they're not going to stand up for you dogs will you don't hear about cops going people's houses and shooting their cats do you it's the dog because

they're not cowards even if they're little or they're big they stand up because they love you and our society is imploding because we're becoming a cat society not a dog society. So this is Alex Jones trying to make a point about the world while at the same time trying to work out some material for a weekend he's doing I was going to say this is a shitty 80s heckman right basically y'all y'all know the difference between dogs and cats cats on one side they'd be like this

yeah yeah you said it dogs over here like this oh man that's true God I love that's the truth I love to have comedy that is like that is terrible hacky nonsense yeah and look I got a cat I know she doesn't really love me but we have a complicated kind of love you know that's how cats and dogs are dogs are simple cats are complex there we go I don't know now I'm getting into yeah damn there's two there's two kinds of people in the world probably people who explain their love is I don't

know who cares I got nothing for that that's I was dumb that's just dumb but that's that I think is an indication of how Alex often does like the Sunday shows are low stakes for him yeah he knows that not many people are watching and so he just kind of fills time a lot of the Sunday shows so why not start off the show with a five minute riff about why don't cops kill cats when they come I forgot this is how he's starting the show right out of the gate right out of the gate look

sometimes I feel like I got to get into all of this news today right but let me tell you some about dog and cat people yeah so he doesn't stay on that theme for very long but does he feel the same way about dog Chimeras and cat Chimeras interesting I don't know do they do they take on the property this is a very good this is groundbreaking questions for Alex next week I'll call in the animals take on the properties or do the people take on the properties of the animal that they're

chimerid with I think they would have to do you yeah I mean there's got to be some sort of genetic influence for the fish people have you know sad human eyes you don't know that fish aren't sad all the time that could be a we have no idea about the psychology of fish I don't know they are packing animals I don't know if it's your sad all the time so Alex does not stay on the area really depressing thing scientists reveal that fish are all depressed all the time they're bummed out

they like the flakes but nothing else so Alex doesn't stay on this theme for very long he has seen any cops killing your fish that's a good point he does get weird there's a couple of things he says on this show that I think are indefensibly weird and I don't think I don't think if pressed he could explain what the fuck he's talking about and here is the first of those clips and then they write books like eco science and Bertrand Russell writes books from the 30s right through

the 80s and the 90s bragging about it these people think they're gods and they say the public doesn't care we must have the right to do it you see like you say at a spiritual intergalactic level an interstellar level there are rules just written on the universe by God and if you don't protest something if you don't say no to it then you are acquiescing and accepting that's really weird on an interstellar level intergalactic intergalactic level uses both of those words

how do we feel about McConaughey he's great God wrote that rule on the universe is pretty cool just keep living amen that's what we do here yeah that that's super bizarre he's basically expressing the belief that you know if you don't fight back against something you consent to it yeah and I don't disagree with him I disagree with how he wants to direct that but he's he's defeated like he's denying the Nuremberg the Nuremberg defense basically how so well the the idea that I was just

taking orders is not an actual defense towards you putting Jews into a concentration camp right you know so the he is right and it and it's something that I've talked about or I talked about recently which is every day that I'm not protesting the mistreatment of black people by fucking everything I am please in particular yeah I am implicitly consenting to allowing this kind of worldview to exist I think it's a little more complicated than that well that's because you're a cat

person I don't think that there are universal rules and galactic rules that were written by God especially in the way that he's presenting it because what he's saying is that these globalists like Bertrand Russell right and the eco science I like I like how he's really bringing up the recent references you know Bertrand Russell writing in the 30s right and John P. Holdren's textbook eco science he brings up what you've discussed in the past yeah does not say the things that he says that they it

says he's saying that they are putting this out there they're giving the information of what they're doing to you and if you don't fight back then you just accept it and that's because he's lying about what those things say yeah eco science the textbook doesn't say that they're putting things in the water it doesn't say that they're trying to dumb down the population has nothing to do with that stuff it's a fucking textbook and they just we've been over it it doesn't matter

yeah I hate him anyway I'm still mad about the dog and cat thing well I tell you that I couldn't even listen to that listen this that might have been pretty weird this also I'm telling you interstellar the plot mechanics are not great okay great when you're on Douglas we got to get a lot more listeners before that happens maybe you know next time is that the Rose Montt or whatever there we go anyway that clip was weird but I'm telling you this next clip is much weirder I

might have oversold how weird that clip is I think it's fucking very weird that he believes that there's interstellar rules that's very weird to me this next clip is very is I think it's undeniably weird okay and they think that people winding up for to get a their new iPhone that technology no that's 50 year old crap the true technology they have the true technologies are mind and our genetics that every scientist that's in genetic engineering understands isn't even of this

world we're made in the image of the creator that made this planet we predate this planet the elite all know that they're just there dumbing the public down to not get it we're not we're not we're not we're not like seeking after the elves we are the elves stand it they want to keep you from that knowledge they're aware of what we are they want to play God but we run around watching NFL that's what the joke is yes I don't have any favorite idol my idol is myself to tell you the

truth I am the idol is human ingenuity and going to the stars and and and fulfilling God's destiny my idols my dear all children and try and reach as many as people as we can I agree with you God bless you I gotta jump but this is not an elite that would put stuff in vaccines to lower our IQ and put fluoride in the water to lower IQ an elite doesn't seek to dumb people down let's say the elite or some alien species I'm not saying that let's just hypothetically what type of

elite alien species wants to dumb down a planet and make people a bunch of retarded idiots I mean you know you're not my God a real God wants to build me up and give me Promethean fire not control me you are not God you are fallen degenerate scum standing in the way of the true creation that dominates you they hate humanity they hate on her they hate beauty they hate creativity because we are their God you understand that the elite cannot stand true

humanity they will go to hell before they capture anything they're a joke they're only there to provide us with the stress to make us go to the next level just just get that straight through your heads they're falling they are failed they are scum so let them play their games let them win for the season we win for eternity praise Jesus Christ I mean it's so hardcore David I've played last night like ten o'clock at night I said God just let me tell the truth I am

tired of backing down to these people I'm tired of watching them have their way with humanity just turn me loose and turn humanity loose Amy in Tennessee you're on the air ma'am in Tennessee you are on the air that is smooth as silk so what do you think about that humans predate the earth well yeah I think most Christians believe that right I don't I don't think I don't think that I don't think that's nowhere near any kind of Christianity right that's not anywhere

near anything outside of like the weirdest Theosophy like the weirdest pseudo spiritualism I mean I guess there is a little on the seventh day God rested and then he went back to the negative first day and he was like well I might as well create humans here too I mean why not it goes into a little bit of like vaguely Gnostic beliefs there is there is a tiny bit of the idea of like pieces of your spirit predate humanity right sort of thing a little bit of Tolkien a little bit of elves

we're not I like and and a little bit of Internet message board Illuminati talk yeah that goes back to a lot of that stuff and the idea that he presents that these globalists that all they're there for is to be a challenge for us to get to the next level that that's a fairly common belief in within Christianity though that idea that this life is a test right but it also goes to the ideas that have been pitched on Internet message boards about the Illuminati so with all of

the with all of the bullshit that we deal with every time he gets into that weird religious aspect aspect he just has so much more of a ring of truth to him we're in when he's saying we're saying when he's saying we we're not seeking the elves we are the elves yeah it feels like he believes that right like all of the and that's speaking in parable yeah that's like if you guys understand you get it you get you way get it yeah you maybe get it too much I wonder if he's talking about

the DMT machine elves you know when people take DMT they often see machine elves I don't know what that means at all dimethyl tryptamine is a substance that you can take it's a very powerful hallucinogen and you can smoke it and when you do a lot of people I don't know what the percentages are I haven't taken it myself but a lot of people report that well we started drinking wine so I suppose the next episode we're going to have to do DFT yeah it lasts for like 10 minutes and we could never

record on it you can't move you're just hallucinating so hard maybe you can move a little who cares but a lot of people report that they see elves working gears and machinery yeah and they some people have speculated that behind the veil of reality like DMT allows you to see beyond the pierce the veils yeah and you see that there are elves who are working the machinery of reality that create whatever we see in our own well that's obvious though where else would we get cookies

for those trees those trees that have elf factories look let's not go any further down this road okay stay on it's try and stay on topic rare we're all we're still in the you've already established that we're doing an eight and a half hour long episode never drink and wine on the show ever again is already off the rails so on the 6th Alex Jones does a lot of that weird stuff and then in addition to that we start to see this creeping pro Russia stance oh we're starting to see

it now well no we've already seen the beginnings of it starting right now he but that was more like pro strong man Russia is male pro a man taking by yeah that whole thing we're starting to see a little bit more of it and here's here's what he has to say about Russia and Assad and then we see the shocking images of a drowned Syrian boy show tragic plight of refugees our government five years ago launches al-Qaeda in Syria kills 300,000 of these innocent people and when Russia and Syria fight

back we call them terrorists and our own media says that quote take out Assad that'll stop ISIS when that's a group attacking and they show a dead little two-year-old toddler in the sand but they won't show the fuck you tens of thousands of dead babies that I've seen online fuck you and you've seen online that were killed by Western back rebels in Syria so they create the crisis and then say look a dead baby yeah look so but the that's crazy the I the compare that compare that

bullshit fake empathy with when somebody like when a terrorist attack happens right and he revels in all of the people who died yeah saying look at how right I am and then he pretends to give a fuck about that let know no just get to own both empathy and complete sociopathy that doesn't count fair that's a fake voice oh yeah that's a fake bullshit oh yeah no I'm not cool with that well you cool with the fact that he's saying that basically Russia and Assad are the good guys oh of

course okay well actually you know that was the sixth and then on the 7th is Labor Day so he doesn't have a show on Labor Day they just do a rerun show and so you know no need to dwell on that I'm glad he supports Union holidays well I think he actually I'm sure that he loves the free market and prosperity so much that he has to be like well thank God we have a day to celebrate Union he does actually make a little bit of a point of that oh really yeah the fact that we still celebrate

this Union holiday gotta give my people a day off anyway we come back on the 8th and guess what he's still on his bullshit about Russia being the good guys but as you can see I'm particularly crazed today because this is the reality of what's happening and then I look at all the other news all the other things that are happening US demands Greece close airspace to Russian humanitarian aid for Syria when they're only flying them in food and Russia is doing us a favor trying to keep all

the refugees from coming here see I mean that that's not to that's not to say that that in and of itself is an evil thing to say it's not wrong to say that Syria does or Russia does some good things some bad things but we're seeing a pattern developing over the course of early September of just outright Russia is the good guys we're the bad guys yeah and it's really bizarre it's really bizarre considering Alex Jones is past he has as we discussed he played into so much

Russophobia yeah in his early career and the last time Russia did us a favor was in World War two that's that was the very last time yeah yeah so I don't know I don't know what to make of it it is really interesting that if we look at the timeline of the world it seems like summer fall of 2005 is when something 2015 yeah excuse me yeah 2015 is when something really fucked up happened yeah I think that that might be the branching point when our our world could have gone one way

or the other and we went the wrong way that's our dark timeline it just so happens that that's when Alex Jones is starting to warm to Trump yeah happens to be saying tons of positive shit about Russia and Assad on his show I don't know I don't have a conclusion but it's weird the the the thing that I think about pretty consistently is what's the balance between Putin taking advantage of a situation and Putin instigating the situation right so all of these guys

right now in 2015 are just starting to be like well look at this strong man doing shit right now how much of that is Russian propaganda seeping out and then Putin going or you know if not Putin himself directly but his his circle of oligarchs saying this is something we can take advantage of and how much is directly his like look at what I did like that kind of a shit I think as it relates to Alex it's he's taking in like RT and Sputnik and he's getting the Russian

line as the truth because it's more appealing to him he has this idea that it's a masculine culture and that they've kicked out the globalists and therefore their media is obviously much more reliable than ours ours is just full of propagandists and CIA plants that are in the media and so he just has no reason to doubt things that come from their it's mind boggling it's mind boggling to try and see through these people's eyes it's very weird that seems it's it could

not be more obvious that RT is a state controlled media outlet even more so Sputnik only shows what the state wants you to see yeah like it can't be more obvious so how can you not catch it I don't know you to be the way is you don't want to well yeah yeah you're you're absolutely right or it doesn't fit with what you I I mean I do understand though because if you've built your entire life like if you're Alex Jones at in 2015 he's 40 ish yeah maybe a hundred who know yeah these

timeless yeah his soul has migrated and exactly talking with his ancestors so so you've built your entire life around this ethos globalism and just like you said we have this we have this splitting point dark timeline versus the the light timeline yeah we're in either all of these people really confront themselves and say what I believed for the longest length of time is wrong or they double down they double down and of course they double down well at least Alex certainly

I don't I can't speak to whatever is happening with political figures and shit like yeah but in terms of Alex yeah he's like oh I would I would actually say that the the entire politics of 2015 was the the firm cementing of there will never be a shared reality again oh totally like totally it started it started when Fox News started fuck off man it started like Reagan you know what you're absolutely right I don't know who's even before that that was when the billionaire

campaign of lobbying really took off yeah but but that I feel like is whenever it's like this is how it's going to be forever yeah I agree that it's where things ramped up to to a horrifying extent yeah I think it's because people realize that election was coming up yeah and they realized that it was win or lose at that point yeah and the trends in society that we could see were like well if something doesn't happen Democrats are never going to lose another election because that's just

the way society is going yeah yeah people are becoming more progressive people are becoming more accepting more opening and that is what them the Democratic Party largely represents yeah especially over the Republican Party yeah and in less a third of viable party were to exist right there doesn't seem like there's any shot there and the GOP really embraced it because they were the ones who realized that the only way we win elections is to lean into being

the white supremacist party because if you look at that the GOP autopsy that they did on the 2012 election it was all about we need to return back to the big tent we need to expand we need to find more Latino voters we need to do all of this stuff and they took none of that advice and didn't need to and didn't need to because they gerrymandered the hell out exactly and purged photo rolls blah blah blah they went straight to white supremacy yeah and God bless them I don't know I don't

know no elves bless God bless them because they give us something to fight back against they are the Illuminati of how we grow that's how we grow as people so on the eighth Alex Jones has a long interview that and genetic memory that's also how we grow is how you learn Anthony Gucci already comes in for a really long interview about how great their products are and about how terrible immigrants are there's they're trying to they're they're they're hitting both at the same time

they're trying to scare people about the immigrant waves that are going to come while simultaneously you know being like all our products are fucking awesome they're spending way more time on the show trying to sell stuff like you know we have these periodic visits from Dr. Group who comes in for like these hour long sessions and now we're seeing like Anthony Gucci already is on almost every day doing something to try and sell product yeah and that is not that is not unremarkable

it's part of the lead up to the money bomb money bomb yeah so in the money bomb world we exist in it's going to ramp up and ramp up hard yeah so the after that Alex Jones has an interview with John McAfee who created McAfee McAfee is the McAfee yes the guy who infects every Windows computer with junk where that be him he's also the guy who may or may not have murdered his neighbor in South America what I don't know if this is the case his neighbor wound up dead and he fled he was

living down south the border and his neighbor ended up dead and he was being pursued by the police for questioning I don't I don't know if he did it I don't I have no idea but I do know that he fled and then his house burned down I don't wait and then his house burned down as I understand the timeline yes I I admit I haven't done a ton of research into it but McAfee is a wild dude he's a wild dude McAfee did that shit I'm not ready to say that that's on you man that's on you so McAfee is the

OJ of computer software and weird goatees so never seen his face I is a weird goatee good friend so McAfee is on and Alex is trying to get the exclusive out of him that he's running for president and McAfee and Alex is super excited about it because McAfee has a deep libertarian past and what have you right and anybody who a lot of those software giants do like a lot of those a lot of those guys have a full on like we're going to build our own utopia at a Uber why not if

you can create a world online why couldn't you create a world in the real world that's a good point so Alex is super excited about it because anyone who pays attention to Alex would make a great president obviously so he's giant like McAfee is being like his whole storyline is my aides they went out and they filed paperwork for me to run for president yeah I don't know I'm going to run for president yeah and Alex is like are you giving us the exclusive are you running are you going to announce

here on info wars that you run of a president like I give you the exclusive that they filed some papers like fuck you man that's really not a great exclusive he keeps being like if I run I'm going to win but why don't you run he didn't run and he didn't win but in the middle of their interview Alex Jones says this and it really troubles me that's why I like Ted Nugent is he's real and I know that against the NRA they used to be really bad 10 years ago now they're really good

we've got to radicalize the liberty movement because we face a radical globalist threat milk toasting it won't beat it I really am scared of that mentality because all of his that's exactly what he did because all of his stuff is based on lies and fear it's it's all it's not based on reality so he perceives an extreme enemy that he's up against and therefore it's okay for him to radicalize his base yeah of course which is essentially what terrorists do yeah that's

exactly what terrorists do I mean the the thing is ISIS has a better argument than he does for radicalizing their base yeah I like with that with stopping short of advocating anything ISIS does yeah looking at it purely just on a logic basis right their argument does make more sense there they're fighting a real enemy like I their their desired goals are terrible yeah and those don't make sense no but the idea of fighting back certainly does oh of course and the especially

in their situation and the idea of extreme measures imagine if you were imagine if we had a terrorist group that was fighting against an imaginary enemy without explosives we do we do we absolutely do it's the Liberty movement yeah that was radicalized partly by Alex Jones partly I mean he's the most mainstream voice of the people who radicalize them behind the scenes there are tons of those websites and show like there's a whole Byzantine network of monsters I'm sure out there

but yeah he does he's he's responsible for a lot of terrible shit in the end of this episode we get a phone call from old man house phone he calls back in I love me some old man house phone I did not pull a clip from it because it's boring but he wants to talk to John McAfee about guns that's fun it's just important to point out whenever house phone calls in okay so we move on to the 10th hold on let me back up real quick I'm sorry the ninth I think I've forgotten is has

Rappaport showed up no John Rappaport is not before still not in the mix not in the mix and I'll tell you to the end of this past the money bomb yeah I'm still not in the mix now let's move on Jordan to September 9th on this show Alex Jones is very obsessed with the story out of Pittsburgh where a gentleman he runs a barbershop and he got fined $750 for refusing to cut the hair of a lady who came in because he's it's a dude's barbershop now it's just curious about like

barbershop like the movie barbershop or barbershop like a white dude in the small town second one there we go but it's gonna say I doubt I doubt the first one's showing up on info words knew a lady went in to the shop and they said we are not going to get you can't come in here and so she was like alright I'm gonna complain about this and he got fined $750 Alex Jones presents it as hey these guys just don't have the technology to cut ladies hair you know like they don't know how to do

it and there's a reasonable point to be made there but if you actually look into the story you can find that this dude is basically running the man show out of a out of a barbershop and his reason for not wanting to like serve a woman who came in was less about I don't know how to cut your hair and it was more predicated on this is where dudes go to hang out he ends up calling in and they have an interview on a later show yeah where he's like men come in here to have a beer and make jokes

and fart and they can't do that if ladies are in here like you should have gotten fine yeah don't call yourself a business then call yourself a clubhouse like right what are you doing yeah that mentality but you're put your shit up in a tree you idiot what is this the little rascals what's happening absolutely but the reason that Alex Jones has a leg to stand on in terms of his complaints is that he doesn't really necessarily believe that businesses should have to serve

everybody yeah I believe that's true based on his libertarian beliefs if pressed he would say that a business could deny service to African Americans if they wanted to and the free market would sort it out right even though it has been conclusively proven for all of time that the free market would not sort and the last great example of that was of course Chick-fil-A yeah did not work out yeah but didn't do shit but that is what is behind his sort of support of this

barbershop and it's super wack if you actually look at the details but who cares that be that be more it's more interesting to me if the guy really just doesn't know how to cut ladies hair sure that was his excuse for it like like if his defense in court was like dude I never actually went to school I don't know I don't know how to cut this I don't know how to cut this ladies hair I'm just gonna fuck up her hair yeah then I've been like oh yeah fair I mean that's a that's that's borderline

reasonable yeah but his position is not no so something way more is only where I cut hair of dicks yeah yeah something way more important happens on the September 9th show yeah that day or the day before Donald Trump came out and said some stuff about immigrants and Alex Jones has a very strong response to it and it might not be what you expect we're gonna go out to break with Donald Trump saying we've got to accept the immigrants you know he tells the truth about these Arab countries and

African countries won't take them but that we've got to we have the moral high ground the whole world collapsing into depression we can't take billions of people especially if they're put on welfare this is suicide let's go to the clip well it's a serious problem we haven't seen anything like it since the Second World War and it's getting worse and worse and I was actually impressed in one way but surprised that Merkel in Germany allowed this to happen because they're really

flowing through all over Europe and if you notice Russia is not taking and China is not taking and the Gulf States whether you look at Saudi Arabia or Qatar or any of them they're taking none but some of them are and some of them are actually being very generous it just really I wonder you know we're all these really donald being generous with the Germans that pay some of the highest taxes in Europe of the French that pay 84% on average

for people to come in and get put on welfare I mean you read the scams that Third World immigrants run all across the place Somalis up in Minnesota Afghans in Germany they just don't pay the taxes they don't they do whatever they want they run black market operations and they get welfare and then oh I want to come in Merkel she's so generous hey Trump shut your fat mouth you punk I knew you'd start flip my gut told me something how about

you give your five billion dollars to him okay holy shit I'm telling you man he was against abortion then he was for it then he was against it all the rest of it he loves Hillary Clinton whoa wow is that intense so this is this is bizarre that is wild yeah Alex Jones has taken an anti-Donald Trump stance on September 9th 2015 that's more like vitriol that's more passionate he called him a punk yeah once you shut your fat mouth yeah that's more interested

like in that's exactly what he said to shift he just didn't say fill your hand yeah goddamn cock sucker yeah well like that is more passionate than all of the stuff he said about his mob ties absolutely like that in the past episodes we've gone over that's super bizarre yeah that I don't know what to make of that moment Trump is not a white supremacist yeah wow yeah how do what hmm how are we still do it should be over by now totally what there's so many goddamn twists

and turns yeah so on this show after this he has an interview with the sheriff the guy who's he's not the sheriff just the sheriff like a like a Cormac McCarthy character he has an interview with the judge whose eyes are burning fire he has an interview with a guy who's running for sheriff in Houston okay and this guy is nuts he says that he thinks that Obama is creating racial strife in order to cancel the 2016 elections spoiler alert he does not win the election for sheriff God

damn it if oh man if Obama had just canceled him man what about stuff yeah good stuff we'd have to deal with the militia uprising but yeah it would be easier we could have gotten the revolution out of the way pretty quick and then just moved on and they'd come yeah exactly so after that he has an interview with Ted Nugent the Nuge calls in he put up the Nuge signal on the past day when he was talking to John McAfee you heard that in the little clip there yeah he's like I was just honest

he's real he's like I haven't talked to the Nuge in a while so he gets Nuge to call in yeah and he talks about how his show on the Sportsman channel has been canceled and it's because everybody's afraid of guns he's got the best ratings ever and I don't think any of that's true I think it's just a convenient way for them to play victim about the Second Amendment yeah and it's very boring so like it's hard for them to find an excuse to play victim about the Second Amendment yeah also I would

like to wonder what is why was Alex saying that 10 years ago the NRA was very bad and now it's very good because they weren't that extreme about the Second Amendment they had gone into a period where they were sort of cowtowing to anti gun interests to be like well maybe you don't need semi-automatics right maybe you're right maybe that is reasonable and because of these other people these these more extreme gun groups the NRA got molded into a more extreme organization okay and Alex

believes that gun people should be on the offensive and actually he has an interview later on and hearing that sentence does not make me feel good later on and people should be on the offensive is the problem with America it's pretty scary he later has an interview with a guy who runs a like citizens for gun rights organization that Ted Nugent was involved with and it's a little bit scary and they make some very false claims but we'll deal with that a little bit down the road so

on the ninth Alex had that thing where he called Trump a punk yeah then on the 10th Trump backpedaled a little bit on his man maybe the immigrants maybe we don't have to take as many Alex is like well good he's backpedaling like that but he just but he was just mad because he changed his mind about stuff right his his pure anger was about the fact that he flip flops on dumb positions and he's like I called it all along I knew there was a reason not to trust you and then

whenever he changes his mind again he's like well okay now we're back on board he's backpedaling that's good it's very weird yeah it's super bizarre that's bananas yeah so on this episode on the 10th he has Mark dice he has a video where Mark dice goes out to the streets and tries to get people to sign a petition to ban the sale of the Bible on Amazon and it Barnes and Noble damn it mark dice is the worst yeah but here's the thing a lot of people sign it but you can tell

again it's a thing where they're like fine fuck just sign it leave me alone right but then beyond that based on free market based on Alex Jones is sort of libertarian beliefs you should be able to not sell the Bible. Yeah if you can refuse service to a lady getting a haircut you should be able to refuse selling the Bible I don't understand where the line between your belief in religious supremacism and libertarian like where is the like what is more important

to you religious baiting or your principles your phony ass principles it's it's insane so mark dice almost gets into a fight up with a guy on the street all right now I'm in now I'm weighing some guy is like really mad at him because he's trying to ban the Bible and but again it's not ban the Bible it's just don't sell it on Amazon or it Barnes and Noble wait so so somebody got really mad at him yeah why did they leave it

in the fucking clip because the guy gets really mad at him and he's like no no no hey look I'm doing a hidden camera show we're trying to point out the people are stupid for signing this and the guy's like I don't believe you fuck off and then mark dice chases him down and like no man no no no you get it look the camera is right over there it's so desperate and wow yeah that's that it yeah mark dice is the worst that's really sad Alex Jones tells a story about

harassing a lady at the hiking bike trail because she had a bumper sticker he didn't approve of which is nonsense that's better than elves are we are elves I'm just giving you a rundown of stuff because like we can't possibly cover everything no but man that one was that one was wild it's like I don't I don't we've already spent an hour and a half on two clips I don't believe the story about harassing this lady at the hiking bike trail I think it's made up but even in his made

up story he's still a dick what is he doing at the hiking bike trail is there all the time what he's taking his kids there all the time he tells stories about the hiking bike trail at least every third well maybe he's not a terrible father maybe I mean miss kids back when he was yes some yes some custody when you tell him that story about the immigrants who were fishing and cooking the fish outside yeah was at the hiking bike that was at the hiking bike yeah he later gets an ear

infection from from the hiking bike trail yeah from the lake at the hiking bike trail you miss his two days of work because of it but he uses it as an opportunity to sell a silver bullet his colloidal silver product oh okay even though dude at this point when you say he uses it as an opportunity to sell silver bullet I'm halfway like does he think does he think white wolves are real he might so we're we're in the 10th and where wolves are the original Chimera Alex Jones

has a lot of really bad stuff in the next couple days and here is one of those things I tell you you talk about a death wish but see the criminals that run Europe that have hijacked it can get away with this thinking it was anything so it's not just a fetish to smear garbage all over Europe I got stacks of articles of women being pulled out of cars rape children being raped they're like well that's part of the radical Islamic culture to rape your daughter says you see

they're kicking out of their countries their poorest their most criminal their most degenerate their most mentally ill and a bunch of 18 year old 20 year old troublemaker crooks and ISIS people that folks don't want their countries anymore we have them posting on their Facebook I'm here I'm in Berlin look at me I'm a jihadi I thought I cut a bunch of Christians heads off come hang out with me ladies and all the German women turn into trendy TV and stuff I go

absolutely and that's the cool thing is to get you know beat up by a gangbanger or you know have his name tattooed all over them and or the next best things to be slapped around and put in a slave pit by radical jihadi and they got all these women teenagers all over the world getting on airplanes and flooding to go be in dirt shacks and rape by over a hundred men then of course they're begging for mommy and daddy after but that doesn't happen you just get taken

on a field shot in the back of the head but it's not glorious China loves it and so is Rachel Maddow sign him does not matter why don't you go over there and hang out with your little jihadi pals that little CIA Anderson Cooper promoted the last four years as the Arab Spring run by the filthy White House that's so close to a Dennis Miller but that's spring is run by the White House their spring was run by the White House according to Alex yes okay and the CIA was

behind it and Anderson Cooper has a past with the CIA yeah and ergo he was not really over there overseas in his capacity as a CNN reporter he was I don't know sighting yeah I guess the Arab Spring I guess there are a couple stories that have come out of people like young white girls going to join ISIS yeah in the same way that there are a couple stories that have come out of young white dudes who've gone over to join yeah and it generally does not end up all that well no

there are also stories of the opposite yeah as well people going to join the actual Syrian resistance and fight against the or the Iraqi army Assad yeah absolutely or even trying to come here as refugees yeah crazy but yeah it that what he does is he takes like again it's these kernels it's these like one or two stories that have come out and he embellishes it to be like there's thousands of young white girls who just want to go get beat by a by a Muslim because that's cool yeah

these trendy women just want to it's so disgusting well there is a porno channel I can I can tell you this there's not and there is definitely not so that I just wanted to make you that's bad your impulse and his both bad but it has nothing on this next clip oh no this is the first of two very severe historical misrepresentations that Alex makes that we'll discuss on today's show and I think it's probably the worst of the two I'll let you decide because Hitler was a project

of the elites and I'm already out I'm already out Hitler up Hitler was not good by the way but it's beyond what they tell you Hitler was bad got it Roosevelt wouldn't take the Jews because the liberal Jewish groups in New York City said they hadn't paid a ransom to them to get out and I've had Dr. Pachennikon who was a Jew who lost family in Europe when they fled to Cuba they fled to Cuba on a boat right after he was born because

New York City wouldn't take him because the Jews said you didn't pay up oh is it any Smith I guess it is isn't it if I was a real Nazi collaborator then it would be okay if I was George Soros or Arnold Schwarzenegger that wears Nazi uniforms and says he wants to be Hitler that's okay but if I point out that the evil I'll be right people like George Soros who was involved then the people above him robbed the Jews and sucked off the Jews and told them you either pay a

ransom or you go to Israel and then when they said okay well go to Israel they said still you're going to pay a ransom the average ransom calculates out to $1 million today and all the poor Jews or the middle class Jews that didn't have it they got sent to be murdered and then the very Jews that helped murder them sit around and create a Holocaust narrative and projected on his guilt onto the American people. Whoa.

We were involved in it as if the average American that fought Hitler or whose grandfather's fought Hitler was there. Fuck you. So we have to let that same Jewish mafia that helped kill the Jews with Hitler engage in all these criminal activities or we're anti-Semitic. I say feel your hand Nazi loving scum and go straight to hell where you came from.

My friends it is official we can now say that Alex Jones is a Holocaust denier. Wow. Or at least a Holocaust revisionist. Un. Wow. That's pretty wild stuff. Unreal.

So if you look into it there are a bunch you know like there were people who were able to make bribes to get themselves out of Nazi occupied territory. Yeah not to. You could get out of New York City Jews. You could get out of camps if you bribe people with a lot of money because you know they're evil but you know they want some money.

Everybody's got to get paid. Right. Alex is extrapolating that to be like oh it was it was Jewish groups who are keeping these poor Jews in these camps to be killed because they didn't pay up. That's amazing. But because that because that's isometric tropes. Yep.

It plays on a kernel of truth in the sense that some people were able to buy their way out and and it does play on the fact that America absolutely denied Jewish refugees that you know why. Because of the same fucking type of people who are denying Muslim refugees now. So that's why they're rewriting this goddamn history. So they can't.

So it's like well it wasn't us. We're we're the ones who aren't fucking bringing it. No that's fucking bullshit. If Alex had been around in the 19 goddamn 30s 100 he would have screamed about how Jews shouldn't be allowed in there dangerous because they're Jewish because they're German. They're German. They're secret Nazis.

What what fucking bullshit. What better way to sneak Nazis into America than for them to be Jewish. They play on your sympathies and before you know it they're here. They're making a little little rikes even though even though the very fucking anti-Semitic beliefs that Hitler got he got from intellectuals here in the 1910s and 20s.

So this whole fucking bullshit. Yeah this whole fucking bullshit about rewriting history to make your team like if you're if you're somebody now who says all lives matter do not do not pretend for a second that during the civil rights era you wouldn't have been like well I I get why Martin Luther King Jr. is angry but I really don't like what he's saying. I'm pulling on my my the neck of my shirt because the next

clip that we're going to play. No no no no no god damn it dear. It starts with him in the middle of a rant about all lives matter. God damn it. Fucking right before we get to that I want to just tell everybody in case you're unaware the idea of Holocaust denial is much more complicated than just someone saying it didn't

happen. There's a lot of schools of thought within the Holocaust denial community. There are people who believe like it did happen but there weren't gas chambers or it did happen but they were work camps they weren't death camps. It did happen but the reason that people died was because of malnutrition not because of a concerted effort on the Nazis

part to kill the Jews or the other there's another branch that's just like hey yeah 6 million Jews died but a bunch of other people died so why do we care. There's all these branches and the thing that Alex is expressing is one of the branches of Holocaust denial. This is incredibly disgusting sort of thing to hear. This is again this is the and I'm still pissed about this after our last episode.

Yeah that is exactly the same shit that people will try with the alt right versus the alt light. If you are minimizing the Holocaust you are denying it. In many ways. Full stop. Yeah you are not you are not pretending to be more fucking intelligent or more research than anybody else. You're trying to deny it.

Yeah exactly the Holocaust. Yeah you're a fucking monster equivalent to somebody saying that it didn't happen equivalent to somebody saying that it should have happened. Well you're a fucking monster. Well I think I'll stop. I think that you sort of hit the nail on the head earlier and the reason that he engages in this sort of thing is that

there is a part of him that realizes that his mentality is what was the problem in our country. Yeah then yeah but and now but be that as it may Alex Jones does have a little thought about all lives matter but that's not the most important part of this clip. It just is where he begins he's starting he's ranting about all lives matter and how Democrats have to apologize for saying all lives matter when all lives do matter but it leads

to another really weird sort of religious rant that I actually think is much more interesting. But the rapture. All right is a fraud. Oh boy there's the battle of Armageddon. Christ comes back the dead in Christ are raised. And then those living spend a thousand years with Christ here on earth.

That's what the Bible says and they've got it that there's a teleporter machine. What. Whatever let's just say God the devil isn't real. Where is that. Where is that in the Bible. Where is that in Revelation. There's a teleporter machine.

I want to be clear that's not referencing something that he talked about before this started that's I don't it just came out that there is a teleporter machine. I don't know what that's in reference. So he's no that's that's what he's talking about with the rapture. That's what he's saying. He's saying that the rapture isn't what people think it is. It's a fucking teleporter machine that very well may be the

case anyway. Here we go. Let's get back. Whatever let's just say God the devil isn't real for the sake of argument fair. I'm going to fight putting fluoride in the water. I'm going to fight aborting babies and selling their body parts fair and I don't care if twiddly D and twiddly dumb

preachers get up there on television in front of their crowds and follow their 501 C3 and give their government script. Okay Stephen finish up your points by the thanks for holding. Wait there's a guy on hold. What I think is really fascinating is to look at like the preachers that he does have on as opposed to the preachers

he complains about because he's had this guy named Pastor David James Manning on a bunch. Are you aware of that guy. No David Manning is one of the craziest black nationalist homophobic pastors in the world. He runs a place called Otla ministry not in New York and the most notable thing he's done recently is a couple years back maybe a year and a half ago or so.

He came out and said that the gay agenda is way more pervasive than we think and what they're doing is that they're putting semen in the lattes at Starbucks. That's how you get the frothy milk. All right. Let's say you get the frothy that makes as much sense as anything else. There's semen in the lattes.

I'm pronouncing like that because that's how he pronounces I know that's the weirdest. It's super fun. Seamen in the lattes. Yeah because if you go into Starbucks and you get a latte it has semen in it and then you get a taste for semen and then everybody because the gays like to eat semen and they have a lot of fun.

So you'll associate these these good times that you have with lattes semen. Oh man it's wild but he Alex has him on as a guest pretty regularly I not super regularly but at least like I found at least 10 times he's been on I release like seven. It's wild all right all right now I'm moving on I have no opinions on that fucking true untrue. I'm fine with both.

I like to say just like a full disclosure. I used to manage a Starbucks and there's no semen in the lattes they get to wait and freedom full disclosure. I drink a lot of semen but just recreationally of course no sex involved just like I got a you get to get my fix you get market produced milk and it's put into a steaming wand you have a cup in the steaming one for off the milk. This is how I yeah it's not just but that like he complains

about churches all the time and yet he'll have someone like him on yeah fucking bizarre but I mean every everything everything everything nothing makes everything is bizarre right now so like I told you they're doing a lot of sales they're trying to boost sales try to get the shit out and it's like every single day there's something like this big Anthony Gucci arty appearance doctor group coming on on the 10th they have it even bigger thing happens we're gonna go

to our guest Steve Wetzel here in just a moment who I asked to come on the show I've been in talks with these folks we're spent about 10 minutes on this thing get back into the news I've been in talks. Well they've been a sponsor for four years three four years but I've been in talks for two years to do this. And finally we got it all done I'll be honest with you I went out and talked to some of the other top providers and they

just couldn't provide something as good as his lower cost that was his high quality because I believe in treating people like I want to be treated the golden this is fucking boring he launches a line of survival foods he has a group called my Patriot supply and their private labeling like an entire line of you know you get buckets right so I mean he's just really trying to expand the what he has for people to buy yeah so I mean it does feed into this we need to make money we need to

make money fucking fast so you get a little bit of a markup on this new thing right it's a good new revenue stream especially when you're fucking spending all your time scaring people so there's that also on this show super fun to note Alex Jones legit forgets what year 9-11 happened. God it's the it's 2015 fantastic 2015 he says it's the 15th anniversary coming up of 9-11 and then he's like hold on is that right 15th anniversary he even thinks about it he's like

that's it that's it yeah it's 15 it's always just fun to like remember when people forget 9-11 anyway let's get on to 9-11 September 11th 2015 is the next day Alex oh that's right we're actually doing a 9-11 episode forget about that doesn't talk about it almost at all the 9-11 episode in 2015 is very like it's kind of blase let's be honest kind of bland aren't we all a little bit done with 9-11 I've moved on yeah so here is something that he does have to say on 9-11 at a certain

point you know seeing 2000 people die versus the half a million civilians that we killed in Iraq kind of like it you know what it evens out sure I think I think I'm I think I'm good on 9-11 so I don't think we're the good guy anymore so oh 9-11 that was the day that he has the interview with the guy with the barbershop that we talked about her yes he ends up having this interview and the guy is a sleazy semen dude he just he gave me a very bad man dude these dudes can't

fart ladies are around I like him to fart wait what that's sort of one of his arguments I have my man cave here dudes can't tell jokes and fart if women are around that is legitimately like what his argument comes down to all right but more importantly Alex has something he needs you to be really afraid about yes on 9-11 and here here's that they are going to turn the Middle East over to radical Islam merged with communism that's not how that's the checkmate move by

the new world order and the central banks and Saudi Arabia do you understand that do you have that through your head okay and then if the states don't go along with here in the United States the globalists are gonna bomb stuff and say the Patriots did it or they're gonna find reasons to indict people like the Texas Attorney General another trying to indict the governor right now and I'm not gonna get any more of that I mean do you understand they got feds following the

governor around all don't they always don't they always have feds yeah but the governor was in trouble for like some insider trading stuff yeah so legal things yeah things that were illegal that he was doing yeah Alex doesn't seem he seems to think he's being targeted or see that's the one thing if he if Alex lived in Illinois he'd be like well of course they're falling around one of our governors yeah probably committed so many so many crimes yeah even our even our best

governors have committed at least most crimes light crimes but that like those things are things you need to be afraid of yeah the idea that they're gonna do false flags blame the Patriots fact they're going to overthrow the Middle East and merge it with communism preemptively protecting any white nationalist crime that occurs a lot of that is stuff you need to be afraid of Alex Jones has some more information that you should be more afraid of immediately with that all the

time right now trying to find him with a crooked toenail to throw him in jail and by the way the FBI doesn't like doing it I mean most people in the FBI are not really bad they're compartmentalized but it's so dirty now they're just going I cannot believe we're this evil and I'm not going to get into my sources folks but I mean I have sources Donald Trump Jr. Not yet that's a problem my job man is I know so much more than I can even say because I can't reveal sources but you

have so the reason I know they're making their move is it's bad it's bad they're looking at a whole bunch of governors they're gonna arrest they're looking at taking out people in legislatures governments even looking at sending hit teams around to kill key people that are going to go along with us and all these generals that are now to tell the truth and stuff you know they're gonna send a hit team to kill you and your family right they'll say you suicided your wife and kids

so I'm gonna tell the generals and everybody else something right now you're gonna preside over the destruction of America and the world sliding into a new dark age and you are gonna end up getting locked in prison or killed probably because of your inaction and your and your cowards I mean I'm gonna say it right now spoiler alert none of that happened that's a really really great way to describe the GOP under Trump right now right mean cowards like you guys because

of your inaction are gonna wind up in jail and you're like oh yeah that's probably true so hit team fucking sooner or later because and and let's be honest if now it's entirely possible that we don't make it through this this whole section of democracy very possible now historically though America's made it through shit we've done it we've done a lot yeah you know and as much as they want to believe that once they enact the GOP agenda and they restrict voting rights and all

that shit it's not like our voting rights haven't been restricted before not like a large it's not like women got the vote in 1776 like that kind of thing or if they do if they if they don't pull it off perfectly sooner or later we're gonna fucking come after that right so if if the GOP doesn't win this 100% and it seems unlikely sooner or later they're gonna get fucked and they don't understand that no but we're not saying there's gonna be hit teams I mean fucking are we

so now we not are we not saying that now you're now are we not saying now you're turning into our we're not saying that you are I'm just saying are we not saying you got to stop Jonesing that's our new apology that's our new thing we get too close to Alex Jones stop Joe we're no longer we're no longer doing the points we're doing stop Johnson yeah so that that's wild that didn't happen hit teams did not take out governors or legislators what what kind of lunacy would

occur if you I'd like to point out for all of you listening who think that we're a little bit off it's not the wine Jordan is watching the baseball game on his phone I am not doing Jordan has the Cubs I am just I'm just keeping I'm just being aware of it I'm not watching it I am just keeping awareness of I understand you're a fan I'm I'm far more I'm far more angry about that a senior if you had just said it was the wine are you sure are you sure it's not because oh wait we're up

never mind listen listen so on September 11th that was one of the things you want to talk about but again it makes total sense he wants to scare people and so the idea that he has high level sources that say they're going to take out all the guys you like right all of our Patriot guys they're going to take them out secretly that that feeds into that but he also has an interview with a guy named Joseph Farah you're aware of Joseph Farah I am not he's never heard of that name before

he is the guy who started World Net Daily and he is a dick yeah I was I was going to say you you said World Net Daily and I'm like I bet he's a horrifying fucking person he is big into the Clinton conspiracies along with our friend Larry Nichols yeah and then also he is super as a made a lot of public claims that Obama is birth certificate is fake yeah he offered to pay up fifteen thousand dollars if they could prove it was real and then reneged once the birth certificate

was revealed yeah he's a he's a dick but he he released some information about the Clintons that is dubious in the past about how they wanted to silence conservative voices and stuff like that yeah so Alex has him on to do an interview about you know the growing Clinton menace in the twenty sixteen election and he asks Joseph Farah hey you've got a bunch of information why don't you release it well you have a bunch of stuff from this Clinton stash that you have very legitimate

question now let's see how legitimate his answer is okay I agree with you in closing I want to get you back in the next few months to get into those documents you got you said some of it was so incendiary you had to carefully dole it out when are we going to learn more about what you got from the Clinton Library I mean what you released was bombshell yeah well it's there's a lot of good stuff in there but you know when I look at it I think this means something to me because

I experienced it but you know how much can I put out there without people thinking I'm just being self indulgent and just being this doesn't matter this is how they plan to shut down new media and how they try I mean it's it's really powerful I think they they thought of shutting down new media even before we got started Alex that's that they saw it I have to hand it to them they saw what a threat you know we were at such an early stage in the development of new media and

so now you know now with guys like you and and right part of Drudge and the rest are they really got their hands full and they'll be more serious than ever that's a good dodge to Alex Jones's question but in terms of the actual answer he gives is I have a bunch of way aming documents yeah that I don't want to release because people think I'm just being sentimental or nostalgic what it now that means you self indulge oh yeah I don't know what he also said that's

nostalgic okay as Alex was talking over and he said I don't want to look like I'm nostalgic I don't understand what that means at all I think if I was going to try and give him a tiny bit of credit I would say that what he means is people will think I'm trying to self aggrandize I'm trying to make myself the story about the Clintons and I want to avoid that it's him trying to be magnanimous and humble but the reality is he has nothing he has no information obviously

you're the fucking guy who runs and started world news world net daily you're on Alex Jones's show talking shit about the Clintons if you had any concrete information you would pony that motherfucking shit frankly even if you had no concrete information you would make something up right you just want is he you want to have because you want to have the McGuffin you want to have this idea of this this possible thing right magic thing that's in a box because it's the same

thing with yeah on the server yeah the same thing that whatever it creates in your mind is way more potent than what the reality is yeah it's the same reason like I've been putting out these I made an archive of the episodes of that's what they want you to think me and Marty's conspiracy theory show yeah and we did look thanks we did one episode about a group called the Hellfire Club you're aware of them not at all there is secret society that existed way in the past

is guy named Sir Francis Dashwood and but I just love their names they're great but oh no of course I know who the Hellfire Club is yeah so they have this secret society and most of it really was just debauchery it was like it was drinking and fucking and saying things that God doesn't want you to say yeah and making paintings of themselves as saying so to me was involved yeah probably a lot of but fucking yeah but the idea that they had was they created secrecy intentionally

they had this this methodology wherein that they would publicly talk about how secret their society was and because they would do that there was a mystique to what they did and everyone thought they were doing way more important shit than they were actually doing they were drinking and fucking right they were committing sacrilege perhaps but it wasn't to any larger goal but because they would be like like ask me about the Hellfire Club hey Dan have you been to the Hellfire Club

and I haven't but I hear they're like they're really up to some weird shit in there but then no one talks about what goes on there nobody talks about it no but like do you know I have no idea I've heard I've heard I've heard some fables fables fables yeah did ease up right about the Hellfire Club moving on that role play didn't work out that's but you understand none of our none of our role plays have ever worked out we've never taken improv classes now but you understand what

I'm saying is no absolutely fair is playing the same game yeah this mysterious like I don't want to well I don't want to release this stuff because your mind will be like oh it's got to be the most damning stuff he's not putting it up maybe it's dangerous yeah Douglas Adams had the best representation of that I think is in one of his in I think it was the long dark tea time of the soul he had a famous author who would famously have a bunch of chickens taken into his hotel room

every night and nobody knows what they were for yeah and then later on he was like well yeah he just had him brought in and had him smuggled out with nobody knowing because it created that sense of what the fuck is this guy doing like that kind of so many weird celebrities play that same yeah absolutely so just affairs playing the same game but it's unfortunately way more damaging because what it creates is part of that vast right wing conspiracy of course that Hillary Clinton

so accurately complained about so oh poor Hillary oh poor Hillary or well actually poor all of us yeah and let's be clear we're not like sitting here saying that she's the greatest no that's not our game that's like that's like us like I the thing I think about whenever we talk about the election is a lot of what's going on with Emmanuel McCron right now in France like he's way better than what the fuck yeah then Le Pen right but he's still acting like he's a

king you know yeah like he's not he's not doing good he he sucks in a lot of ways but Le Pen would have been so much yeah exactly it's like our our our it seems like our world now exists in the extreme far right yeah and then people who yeah exactly yeah which is what sucks like hey how about progressives yeah like I this is the thing that I thought about dude which is if you think about it that is the way that a lot of conservatives felt before the Tea Party really

got going is that like the center was liberal and then the extra you know what I'm saying like the Republicans were coming to the the center and then the Democrats were straight up socialists yeah and so they launched this hard right thing yeah and they have moved it super far right and maybe I don't know I don't know how I feel entirely about the blossoming internet socialism that's been going on yeah lately I need to look into it a little more before I before I speak on it yeah

but it's possible that that will become its own sort of new version on the left of the Tea Party and swing things back but unfortunately what will happen then is it won't pendulum but it won't readjust to the middle it will swing the other way and then there'll be an even more extreme response from the militias on the right right and then eventually we'll all kill each other there is there is the for every action there is an equal and opposite yeah yeah for sure that kind

of theory which kind of sucks dead silence for the next 10 minutes let's get introspective so speaking of things that suck this next clip from Alex is one of the most woefully misogynistic things he's ever had to say and that's saying a lot oh god but I just illustrate how serious this is you know I mentioned this article feminist claim it's sex is to complain so I think it's sex is for to complain at 40 and slip feminist

claim it's sex is to compliment women feminazi to use the rest limbaugh term publicly just real quick let's let's tell the story about what happened what there was a late there's a lady who on LinkedIn had a guy sent her a message that was basically like hey I'd like to get in touch with you also I gotta say this might not be politically correct but you've got the best picture on LinkedIn alright I know her response was I come here this is a professional

networking site yeah I do not want to be judged by my appearance yeah especially by someone twice my age right this whole sort of thing and then there was a massive backlash against her oh everyone started calling her a cut she started getting tons of death and rape threats over social media she was inundated with so much abuse just from standing up for herself yeah I don't think that I read the messages that were sent they're posted you can read there's a guardian

article about it I don't think that she said anything that was like hey fuck you man right it was more corrective than anything like hey don't fucking I'm a I'm a person this is not a place for you to try and pick me up I've I've had that so many times it shows where afterwards if it's me and well actually this comic this just happened recently Kristen Lundberg comic in Chicago she and I did a show together and one of the guys on the show afterwards came up to her and was like man whenever

you pulled out that violin you were so sexy there are compliments about comedy yeah you don't need what is that it's very fuck is that it's very weird and the reason that like she you were very funny right instead of fucking like that's exactly what that is like are you good at your job him yeah but the reason that you brought it up and I think you know the conversation that's been had that a lot of dudes aren't listening to is that these sexualizing and eroticizing

compliments especially in non-romantic contexts what it does is it's a way of exerting power over women yeah it's a way of taking away their agency and their ability and that's the point that she was making and she's totally right now let's hear Alex discuss it I know James man I don't want to know for complimenting her I don't want to know stop Mike down and now in the London Telegraph today lawyer who accused a barrister of sexism the same woman has described men online

is hot stuff who thought crime there I mean a mammal will be attracted to the opposite sex that's not a crime having the name he or she or boy or girl it's not bad to be he or she see I mean this is how freakish this is getting a lawyer who accused a fellow barrister of sexism in England after he described LinkedIn profile is stunning had previously praised men for their physical appearance online telling them they are hot stuff that she just chose to do this in the Femus

group said good name him and shaming to get her stars and bars Charlotte proud man 27 said she felt objectified oh oh that's why you had your hair all done up and stuff on there after receiving an online message from Alexander Carter 57 she had invited to connect on the professional networking site so she invited him to connect he said wow I love your photo it's stunning how dare him I mean I'll be sitting there and there's an old lady checking me out of the Dillard's or something

about a shirt and she's got a cool watch or something I don't say it if I don't like it I'll go that's a really nice watch or your hair really looks nice I mean my dad does my dad does I see a guy get you know on elevator with me with a cool sports jacket or a cool Rolex or cool bag I'll say man that's really cool I'm just being nice plus I like it this is sick telling us that our very communications bad putting us in smaller and smaller boxes but it's all selectively enforced if you want

to have liberal Hollywood sexism sex stuff debauchery torture murder that's okay fuck you you can have kids play violent video games all day but if they go to school and write an essay about the Marines and mention him 16 here come the police nope he wrote I appreciate this that this is probably be horrendously politically incorrect but that is a stunning picture oh he even admitted it was politically incorrect even prostrated himself before her that I'm so sorry it's politically correct

incorrect and that signal to her like a bug eyed barana to come in and go after him to see they peck members of the cult even more I'll be you know what I found is these women that are fake feminists I talk a lot of guys about this like Democratic Party operative women and stuff actually want to be debased and want to be called pigs and stuff and so the problem was he groveled her I'm not saying with her but that's what I would imagine he said hey plus he got the right now he's been

partying that not problem holy shit holy shit that and is crazy if he had just fucking outright sexually harassed her as opposed to couched his sexual harassment in polite language he would have been fucking on LinkedIn that's so fucking awful that interpretation is wild I don't how can you not understand that well how can you not understand that the context of his look I want to fuck yeah but that's not why I would hire someone that's not why I'd be on LinkedIn yeah

but what's wrong with you if you're like hey look at this sexy attractive woman that's great so long as you're not being a creep yeah so long as you're not pulling them off the street so yeah cat calling so long as it's within the context that makes sense yeah and is accepted by both sides yeah yeah but the idea that you should do that in a professional circumstance while is so bizarre so alright also but the reason that he thinks he's in sort of safe harbor to critique her and call

her like a wild out of control feminazi blah blah blah is that he said at the beginning of that that she'd called men sexy and hot stuff online yeah like that's it like that's that's exactly fucking well but if you fucking fuck come on if you look into that yeah the circumstances are she commented sexy on her friends photos on Facebook no fucking which is completely different very very stupid but he congratulatory you know he knows that people aren't going to look into it he knows that

his audience is already predisposed to these anti feminist rare chauvinist mentalities because he knows it is fucking audience is all dudes but that's like that's just like whenever they show the or or the little headlines stuff like that where it's like oh a former convict murdered by the cops yeah instead of father of two no it's even even when it's a white person father of three there were there were two examples within the last week that were really the illustrative of that oh yeah

there was the one where a guy pulled someone out of a burning car and they said ex felon saved instead of going to a job interview saved someone from a burning car yeah the fuck do you have to bring up that he's a fucking felon in the headline no and then the other one was that there was a lady who sent ricin to President Obama yeah and they used her headshot former actress yeah so do fucking unbelievable or just just the way that the white lady shot the Australian white lady shot by

the cops is treated so differently and the chief police police chief resigned she didn't get fired she resigned yeah over it yeah and fucking believable it's all it's like if it weren't so tragic and you know a sign of you know what our society's up to would be comical like the actual elements of it are a farce but be that as a mate that's kind of where we leave off September 11th 2015 not a whole lot of talk about September 11th really he has an interview with our favorite

homophobic pastor Chuck Baldwin he is the guy who said that no civilization that has officially endorsed homosexuality has ever survived now that's true he goes on to say a bunch more homophobic stuff and they scream about how Christianity is responsible for saving people from slavery all sorts of sure everything that's good that's ever happened everything that's good has ever happened is Christian even when Christians did bad stuff well that's because they weren't Christians

yeah so they were doing bad stuff so that was on the 11th and then almost as if regardless of your religion people are capable of doing good and bad yeah so the 11th is a Friday then over the weekend Alex Jones goes to the hike and bike trail and jumps into the lake ends up with an ear infection so he's gone on Sunday David night hosts on the 13th David night hosts again on the 14th yeah so we can skip past those and we get back to the 15th and it's weird because he ended

the 11th show talking about Christianity has done everything great for civilization and he comes back on the 15th and he wants to talk a whole bunch about West the West and it's very similar stuff but instead of religion it's based in the West and I would pause it he does not have a good handle on history but we can discuss that on the oh oh do we did we just discover that now we can discuss that on the other end of this one okay all I've been taught my whole life was how

evil the West was how inherently bad white people were and I studied history from even foreign perspectives and it's just not true and why the West is great and why I say it's the best on average white some cultures are veterans of the things for whatever manifestation whatever manifest destiny reason whiteness just like different breeds of dogs behave differently and have different attributes white dogs are better

the West has been the great innovator the great builders the great scientist now much of the ideas the West what about our home from the East 17 come from the South come from even older cultures of whatever reason many of those cultures fell before and never rose back up and the West okay Romans particularly were great innovators at grabbing other cultures and using it when other cultures tended to not innovate they intended to invent things but

then not innovate off of that I don't know what that means on I do and so it was the West that was the melting pot it was the West early on that actually wasn't racist and sure sectarian like some of the other groups now the West became like that later sure so I have a lot of historical thoughts but first is the first where do where do we start with his bullshit I'll try and work backwards how so I don't

I want to start at the beginning so all right go ahead the idea first there was God the idea that he created the stars and the okay the idea that old time West civilizations weren't racist is patently absurd I haven't been in Rome all that much but I've studied Greece extensively right you know big part of my college education and one of the things just a great example that's

very easy for people to analyze and understand is that you know the word barbarian you know where it comes from now because it comes from the barberry hold no it comes from whole Barbaros which is a term for people outside invading because they thought that everybody who didn't you mean immigrants yeah they did they thought well they had a really interesting idea about having to take people into your home strangers they had like a they had a neighbor yeah they had a

very complicated thing with actual people but big groups they would barbarian comes from Barbar they thought that everyone just said Barbar they didn't respect anyone else's language or any culture. Oh it was like Wolf Wolf. Yeah it was just an onomatopoeia. Those who say Barbar became barbarians. Okay and that's where the word comes from. That's a really that's really fascinating. There's tons of stuff like that throughout

the history of Greece and Rome. They were very terrible other cultures and civilizations. Right. Secondly the idea that Rome was like this great innovator that took things from other cultures and then made it better. They conquered everybody. They didn't take that. They just took things. They killed everybody. You know what else they took their land. They took over everything. They were an empire. They were a complete empire. So then the idea that the West is the great innovators

I just have pulled up a list of Chinese Chinese invention paper printing movable type gunpowder compass alcoholic beverages bells wooden coffins daggers lacquer millet cultivation noodles rowing oars plowshares pottery pottery urns the ability to cultivate rice soybean cultivation acupuncture bank notes you know what we can stop at acupuncture belts. I think you should have just stopped right before acupuncture belts bombs blast furnaces bristle toothbrushes

cast so what you're saying is that it is directly the Chinese fault chromium for the Holocaust. I think the Chinese cause the most types of drill the color printing crossbows dominoes the the the thing that Fedrin the thing that drives me and say it before but I get I think everybody gets your fire land. I think everybody works. I don't want to get your point. Flame throwers. I think zero holding screens got your point fragmentation bombs. Then why are we proud of fragmentation

bombs. I don't know. Hey let's talk about India and what they've invented in the third. No no stop in the third millennium BC. The Indians invented a flushing toilet. Stop they invented a fucking flushing toilet. Yeah. The Indians invented the ruler. They invented the weighing scale. They invented all sorts of ways to fuck with metal. They invented Indians invented the plow. I think I understand what it was. He was talking about when he said he didn't want to reveal

Hillary Clinton's information because it was self indulgent shampoo. The Indians invented shampoo. The word is based on an Indian word. They invented tons of games that we use shoots and ladders is based on an Indian game called snakes and ladders. Well then I will never forgive them. No no so here's here's the thing that here's the thing that I hear though the Indians invented Indigo that that all right. I'm done. That's actually pretty amazing. Although that is the cheapest

act. So I wear blue jeans. No. All right. Yes. The knowledge fight the podcast that references other podcasts. We've gone to so far into this episode. No but here's the bigger thing that he just misses entirely. You pointed out look at all of these inventions in China and India and then he talks about the West being Rome and all of those places. Who the fuck was right in the middle. Who the fuck put together all of these things. He says the West was the melting pot. That

is unbelievable. Bullshit. Yeah. Like that is the Silk Road began and end in the middle. It didn't it didn't start on the West or the East. It was right there in the fucking middle in the Middle East. Yeah. It was those. It was those civilizations that came from Iraq. Those places were the ones that made us all what we are. Absolutely. And the fact that he pretends that it's the East or the West boggles my mind totally that is a complete mess for misrepresentation of all

of this and we don't have fucking time to go through all of the Middle Eastern countries and they're with zero or the number zero or or Africa the things that have come out of Africa or South America. There's a yeah all the world's cultures have had innovation within them. All the world's cultures have brought us amazing things that we use and it's fucking absurd. The most important part is that the areas where they all met. Yeah. The areas where everybody mixed.

That's where things got a lot better and a lot more interesting a lot faster. Yes. Everywhere where it's isolated everywhere like when you're when you're talking about Africa especially in the historical context generally people wind up talking about Egypt. Yeah. Those those central parts of Africa because it had access. Exactly where you can still see a indigenous people today. They are so isolated that they never wound up interacting with all of this insane

stuff because they weren't in the north and they weren't close to other and they didn't have ports. Yeah. Like Egypt had ports. Exactly. So you had people that came in boats from far off lands and had to go through them in order to do anything. Exactly. The idea of that's how the library of Alexandria got so big. Right. The idea of isolation is the idea of completely removing any innovation or invention or anything like that. Nationalism. Exactly. Yeah. If you want

the world if you want the world to die nationalism is the way to do it. All right. So I mean like Alex Alex is like a lot of really fucked up views about the West and he's wrong about most of them as we've discussed but get this this next clip is super bizarre. We know Alex Jones as a man who's primarily against tyranny. That is what he's afraid of. Theoretically primarily against here. Well based on his words. Yeah. His sort of world conception is that the

liberals are not really liberals. They want to push socialism which will lead to communism which will lead to a totalitarian regime tyranny. Right. That is his big fear. He doesn't understand how much fewer steps it takes to get to tyranny. We're there. We're really close. Yeah. But he has this like that is what has driven his career. Now as I talked about at the beginning of this episode there's also that weird pseudo spiritual shit that's going on in the

background elves but in terms of what he's really willing to present as his overarching theme it's a fight against tyranny. Yeah. That is how he sort of presents himself all the time. Right. This next clip is super fucked up when you keep that in mind. The globalists do not want you to be perceptive. They do not want you to be powerful. They do not want you to be free. They are incredible in slavers and all I know is they're not good. They claim they're engaging in all this

tyranny to bring in a total control system to protect the earth from wars and factions killing each other. That's not gonna be honest with you. If there was a quasi tyranny I'm just be totally honest from now on that had good for now on empowered individuals but went shut down really bad people. I would say it was a lesser of evils very dangerous might become the ultimate tyranny down the road but I wouldn't fight it to the point of putting my full will against it to where

I try to force his hand against me. The whole does that mean as what he just said is tyranny is cool as long as it's on my side as long as it's the right kind of tyranny as long as it's on my side. Right. That's incredibly fucked up like that should invalidate most of his beliefs that should invalidate everything. That means he has no principles. He's just on a team. Yeah. It's just that his team is weird. Yeah. Like his team is not the Republicans necessarily. It's not even

libertarians. It's that's that it's anti government weird constitutionalist. That really is one of those things where you do point back to like I shit all over the founding Congress is I refuse to call them the founding fathers. Sure. That's fucking annoying patriarchal fucking annoying not patriarchal just very it's like it's like saying the call it call them the founding daddies. It's like saying the pledge of allegiance. It's super weird just in a gross way. But but

the the framers of the Constitution. I don't know why that's better for me. It doesn't have fathers. The guys the guys who jerked off onto paper and made it words. Sure. They didn't cookie cookie with a paper. I am trying so hard to get to a point which you're failing awful. The one thing that you will that I do give them is that all of those guys really did come from it from different angles like there were in general the same concept of Republicans and Democrats that

we had that we have now it's flipped but there were a month a bunch of times. Yeah. There were liberal and conservative progressive and conservative. Yeah. Yeah. I mean Jefferson and Washington had incredibly different exactly exactly and they they disagreed with each other loud and hard. Yeah. But at the end of the day all of them were against kings. Yeah. Tyranny fucking fucking throw everything as you guys want taxes. I hate taxes but no fucking kings like they all

agreed on that. You know what else they would not be thrilled with quasi king. Yeah. Yeah. I'm cool with quasi tier. Maybe it turns into tyranny down the road. But right now it was the most dangerous thing. Yeah. Yeah. What is that. No that is that is the one thing that you can point to with our our overarching idea of the overarching idea of the into the Declaration of Independence. The Constitution is no kings. Yeah. And right now we have a political party that is

four kings. Well I mean you look at it. Well I'm and probably 40% of the other party is like the way that we've expanded executive powers is beyond reason. Yeah. Especially especially under Obama. Totally. Now that was maybe in response to the fact that we had the most obstructive Congress in history and so the only way to actually get anything done is for Obama to be like fuck it. I'm doing it and the largest financial crisis in recorded not recorded history but in recent

memory recorded in recent memory. Yeah. Absolutely. A bunch of wars and the fact that our health care system wasn't desperate need of something. There's there's a whole list of reasons why it happened. It's not good. So how you get tyranny right like a whole bunch of crises come together and people fuck up along the way. And once Trump gets away with everything that he's been doing everything 100% there he has he will and has gotten away with everything. Yep. And Alex will cheer

lead all the way. So also a couple couple more points about this September 15th episode before we get to more clips. Yeah. It opened with a John Bowne report that was about how Assad is a real cool dude doing a great job in Syria. All he's doing is fighting ISIS. Yeah. Nonsense. Also I realized why so many episodes start with a John Bowne report and that is because the radio stations start at six of the hour shows start at six after they have like their commercials and

station identification or what have you. Yeah. And so almost every episode of the show now starts with a John Bowne report and like why is he on every fucking day. These reports are terrible and it's just because he got a fill time until the stations actually pick up. Of course. So yeah they're doing more pro Assad stuff more pro Russia business then being pro Assad is such a such a perfect bellwether of whether or not you should kill yourself. Yeah. Like if you're pro

Assad just fucking die now. I'm OK. Alex is super mad about a story that he read about L.A. trying to call themselves the capital of Latin America. That's fun. Well you know why they did that. It was a desperate sales pitch to try and get the Olympics. I was going to say I'm sorry the World Cup. They were trying to get the World Cup to come to L.A. and it was part of a PR campaign talking about how you know North America is one and you know they are the capital of Latin America. Yeah.

And Alex is like no it's just about the North American Union coming together. This is them coming out into the open global list. No they wanted to make a ton of money in Los Angeles by. Well it with regards to the World Cup a very small amount of people wanted to make a very large amount of right and fuck over everybody. And thankfully that didn't happen. Yeah. But although they will probably get the Olympics so they'll be fucking us over in some way. And that's why I that's why I had

that brain fart calling at the Olympics. Yeah. Be that as it may. We need to check in. Alex like I said in that couple of couple days back called Trump a punk. Yeah. Called him told him to shut his fat mouth. Right. And then the next day Trump coming at him. Trump backpedaled and Alex softened. So now we got to check in. Alex Jones on this 15th of September has some thoughts about Trump. Here's where we're at. When I get mad at Rand Paul and say he should be more aggressive and

sound more like Trump. It's because I love Rand Paul. I know he's for real. I support him. I want him to win. I trust him. But I know he's listening to more milk toast political advisors that say that Trump's going to get destroyed in a general election because he's too extreme. He's not extreme. I don't know if I trust Trump or not. I don't know him. But I do know what he's saying is true. And that's why he's so popular. We're back to where we started. Of course we have made

no progress. None. He went it just went back back. Yeah. It just there is there is a will they won't they think going on. And the baseline is I like what he's saying but I don't trust him. I think his real problem so far seems to be that Rand Paul actually believes in what Alex Jones says he believes and Alex Jones doesn't actually believe in what he says he believes that might be part of the tension. Like that's what it seems to me like. And I think Rand Paul is a little

smarter than Alex. Rand Paul is so much smarter than Alex. But in terms of knowing like what is possible what isn't possible. I think Rand Paul is also a fucking dick. Absolutely. I think he's agreed. He seems to be an ideologically consistent dick. Which is something that we cannot say about Alex. No he just said he's cool with partial tyranny. Yeah. So yeah. Alex is nonsense. It's a complete mess. So Alex is the wind. He blows wherever it may. On this episode he has that interview

with the guy from the Citizens for Guns or whatever. I can't remember the name of the organization. And I'll tell you this. Citizens for Guns. It's not important. That might as well be the name. Yeah. It's just a guy who's super into guns. Yeah. And he has a terrible Skype. He's just sitting in a room doing this interview with Alex and they end up having this conversation. This is the second instance of complete historical revisionism. I think it's slightly less offensive

than the Holocaust denial that Alex engaged in previously but it is just as whack. Federal government you can go here and no farther. And if you try then the Second Amendment comes into play. To put it a little bit more crudely we'll point our guns at you if you try to act tyrannically. And that's in the Declaration of Independence in the Constitution in the Bill of Rights the war started over them coming to take the guns. It doesn't matter how many quacks professors they pay.

That's not even close to write books claiming it wasn't about bananas. It was all about self defense. It's always about self defense. It's always about being free. The Revolutionary War was about guns. Yeah. The UK. That's obvious. Okay. Who has not read history. Alex. Don't you remember in 1776 when they wrote the Declaration of Independence they were like guns. That's why it was the Second Amendment. Yeah. I think that there were more issues about taxation certainly. Alex

loves to bring up tariffs when he talks about the Civil War. This one might be more appropriate. There was that there was the lack of recourse. There was a lack of redress of grievances. There was no representation. Those sorts of issues seem to be more important. I know that the Tea Party the Boston Tea Party was not about guns. I know that. Maybe what else you got. Maybe it was. What else you got. Maybe they were throwing give me six more examples. I don't need

to. Alex has no examples. None. It's just an assertion. It's just an assertion that the Revolutionary War was about guns. What I mean. What do you what do you say to a person who believes that. What do you say to somebody who believes that the Civil War was about states rights or tariffs. Like what words are possible. I think that there's a way though to like I don't tariffs. No. That's not true. But I think there is a way to look back on what happened in the course

of the Civil War and rewrite it reasonably with the states rights. If it's not what was going on then this is going to be a dangerous argument for me to make this is already dangerous territory. I think that in hindsight you can make the argument that what they were trying to argue was states rights that we should be able to decide whatever is legal in our state federal government get out whatever like I think you can do that. You can't use what they were saying back

then to make your argument because it's not true. It's clearly about slavery. Yeah. But you could do that. I don't think you can do that with the Revolutionary War being about guns. Absolutely not because I don't think that do you know what I don't think the primary disagreement between the British and us was gun ownership. Do you know what the primary disagreement that is a through line between the Revolutionary War and the Civil War. It's that rich people are fucking us

over. Yeah that's true. That's what that's what the argument has been. That's what the argument has always been and in the Revolutionary War was the rich British are fucking us over and the Civil War is the rich Southerners are fucking us over. Yeah. It was the rich the rich people are OK and I don't I don't want to pull out a Southerners were rich because they were enslaving people. Well exactly. Well and it wasn't even that it wasn't even the Southerners. It was a very

small number of right. And then it was racism. Yeah. It was the propaganda that they'd been fed the whole time about how black people aren't even really people. Right. It is it is always and I'm not going to pull a hardcore socialist argument out. I am just going to to point out the same thing that has always been true that it's a rich man's war and a poor man's fight. Rich people always wind up fucking fine. Yeah. They always wind up winning regardless of who wins. Oh fuck fucking

fuck fuck you. Well they're smart. They're fucking insane. I mean smart in terms of like cunning in terms of like a evil ability to no matter what the outcome I'm in a benefit from it. Right. Smart. I mean rich. They have their their privy to more information than everybody else. They're not smart. Well they're just it's like insider training. Well it's not like they're brilliant. It's that they know a day but like the the guys who voted on the health care bill were like OK well

we're going to invest in the same day on companies that stand to profit from this exact vote. Yeah. It's not that they're smarter than us that they're fucking us over. It's but you know that's manipulating a system that we allow to continue. Yeah exactly. So Jordan. Yes. The day before September 15th. Yes. Something really fucked up happened. September 14th. September 14th. Donald Trump had a rally in Texas. OK. And Joe Biggs went to the rally. Oh I bet he has some insider

information we would never have found out without him. Now I have a couple clips from Joe Biggs reporting about going to the Trump rally that I think bring into sharp focus the moment when Alex Jones realized Trump's the way to go. Really. Yeah. No shit. Now I'm not entirely sure about this and Alex doesn't give a lot of indications that I'm correct but I will make my argument over the course of the next three or four clips. Here are three hours basically is what you

just said. No we got way more than that. Here is the first clip of Joe Biggs reporting about going to the Trump rally and again it is not what you'd expect. Got to get to the Trump situation. So you're up there for Lord Trump. What happened. Lord I went in there with an open mind. You know he says a lot of good things out there. You know he's definitely a crowd pleaser and I wrote down on this piece of paper that he was lackluster. He's lackluster in the sense

that he's not motivated or convicted in a sense when it comes to the issues at hand issues that a presidential candidate fucking know them can you know have conviction and have knowledge in when he's asked certain questions about these issues. He doesn't have a really good answer. He doesn't know what he's doing. No. Rodney Dangerfield with these one liners like hey we got a border problem. Huh. What are we going to do about it. Let's

build a wall. All right. So what is the wall going to do all he does. He brings problems to the table without a solution and that's what I heard last night a whole lot of problems being brought to the table without him giving any kind of clear path to how he was going to give a solution to these issues. We know a wall won't work contiguously. What really works is prosecuting people that are illegal. So at this point that's that's Joe is doing slightly reasonable

reporting that actually sounds pretty reasonable and I'm going to get into this next clip. It's Gary but that's the beginning of the two of them kind of advocating for reasonable moderate immigration reform and Trump or Jones saying that a wall won't work when his mind when months later he's screaming about a wall. We need a wall. Yeah. Absolutely. Well the wall is the most important thing. Yeah. Guatemala. There's a wall on the border of Guatemala and Mexico which there isn't even

as. Yeah. Later on like a couple days past this he has an interview with Jesse Ventura and Jesse Ventura lives in Mexico. Yeah. And he's like what about the wall between Mexico and Guatemala. He was like I don't know if that exists. It doesn't. It doesn't. Of course. I've never been down there. I don't know. Like well they're also looking for it. It doesn't exist. The last wall that was similar to the one that Trump proposes was the Berlin wall which Jesse Ventura also brings

up a bunch. Yeah. He's great for it. But at this point like Joe Biggs is making sense. He's absolutely making sense. Trump has a. I feel like you're about to bring the hammer down. Not yet. Trump has a bunch of problems. No solutions. He's up there. He doesn't have a grasp of the issues. Doesn't know what he's talking about. He's just coming in with Rodney Dangerfield style one liners. Yeah. All this is but he's a showman. Right. Kind of makes sense. In this next clip they

talk a little bit more about immigrant stuff and Alex is like surprisingly moderate. It's very weird for the months that we've listened to him screaming about how the global ists are trying to flood us with you know people and we need to get rid of them or not let them in. This is comparing comparing the man. The man we know now versus the man that we're talking about the last few months in 2015. Oh in 2015. Yeah. He's been screaming about fucking immigrants the whole

time that we've been doing this investigation. No absolutely. Yeah. So I'm not talking about present but I'm just talking about the present day versus the the previous Alex in terms of the wall. Right. Right. Right. That boggles my mind. It's nuts. Yeah. It's nuts. It's complete evidence that he's sold himself out. His principles mean nothing. Agreed. So here is the I've labeled this clip. Joe and Alex seem very moderate on immigration reform. You know Donald Trump

said in two years he's going to have every illegal out of the country. The only way to do that was just like I was talking to my colleague on back there. It would be like Nazi Germany. They're going to have to go door to door and find our are you an American. I need to see proof and that's what's going to happen. That's the only way you're going to get all the illegals out. But then at the same time you still have illegals in the country who want to do good and we're not even saying

all we're saying is don't say free welfare free babies come here and have the Democrats sign them up to the anti gun groups and give them fake voting card. But at the same time that's reasonable if that was his actual position and if it reflected reality in any way. Yeah. That's a pretty reasonable position. It's not terrible. It's not what he actually believes. But it's not. It's the way he presents things. Joe Biggs. That's like a McCain Republican idea. Like in 2008

when McCain ran. Yeah. Like that's the kind of idea of like hey we know a lot of people are good but we just don't want you taking advantage of a system. And so we're going to do thing. We're going to take steps to stop. And as we already have covered when Jesse Ventura was last on he was talking about like I'm not sure if these people are getting the programs that you say they are. They're not because it's not possible. Right. But if they are why would you not blame the system

as opposed to person who is just trying to survive. Exactly. And that is a far more reasonable stance. But Joe Biggs is coming in here and Trump is saying he's going to get rid of all the illegal immigrants and he's like that's impossible without turning into a fucking police state. Yep. Absolutely not. So which would require some sort of tyranny. Yeah. Joe Biggs is pushing back against that and Alex is fine with the push. Yeah. It's crazy. This next clip. Do we just diverge

entirely from that. No. Not yet. No. Not yet. No. This next clip is even still sensible. We're not even critics of Trump here. I mean Joe just wanted to see what he was really like. Yeah. But a lot of it is like a rotting danger field one liner. It why do folks like him so much then. He's a crowd pleaser. He definitely knows how to work a crowd and that's what he was doing. He didn't have the first thing he talked about when he showed a paid this is teleprompter free. We don't have

any and he rambled on about how you made two hundred and fifteen million dollars on the apprentice. It took 30 minutes before he even named an issue. And when he did he talked about this vague tax plan that he had and that that in a few weeks he's going to release this you know. Sure. He appealed like a carnival barker to success that everyone was in there screaming yelling women crying baby screaming signs flying up to the air. I mean that just shows how desperate

people are. So Wow. Basically he's just saying there's no substance to what he's saying. He's a showman. He's a carnival barker. Yeah. But at the end there they're talking about how even with that lack of substance people are going crazy. They were in an arena. Yeah. That was full of people. Trump is able to draw these crowds. These massive crowds that are mind blowing. Oh he would be booked at the improv immediately. Totally. He could do it. Oh yeah. He's like

Steve. Oh he's terrible but you can get a weekend. Yeah. Trump stapling his balls to his leg. Now I'd pay for that. Yeah. So I think that this is pay for me stapling Trump's balls to his leg. I don't know why you need to do it. That's weird. Oh I need to do it. So this next clip I think we've we've heard a lot of a very reasonable perspective that Joe Biggs has from going to this Trump rally. Yeah. But I think we're going to start to see here. It's going

to start to deteriorate. Well maybe it will be the beginning of the end. Maybe. And I'll make my point after this clip and the next one. Also do you know how great Todd Glasses is hilarious. I can't stop. And anytime you bring up Rodney Dangerfield. Now I don't think of Rodney Dangerfield. I think of Todd Glass doing Mitch Hedberg jokes in Rodney Dangerfield Rodney Dangerfield's voice is the best. It's just amazing. Anyway not the best is this. Well I definitely had an agenda

when I went up there as well. I wore my Hillary for a prison 2016 t-shirt under my suit. By the way that's the best seller. We have photos or at least you sent me those photos Yeah. Yeah. They should be all on my Twitter right now as well. And I have footage of myself. I'm in the front row. I suck up to the front row and I'm sitting there. I'm kind of getting nervous a little bit. I was like all right I got to do it. I got to do it. And I undid my shirt like Superman

and you could see the Hillary for prison shirt and I jumped up and screamed right in a lull like a little silent sport and I go Hillary for prison and Trump's like yeah Hillary he's like pointing at me. So if you guys have not really quick did know we have a video clip of that. I don't even know we had a video clip. It did that for real happen. It did. It did. Wow. Well what happened was so he's like Trump is in the middle of punk in 2007. Trump is in the middle of saying

something that the crowd likes and Joe Biggs rips his shirt open and he's got Hillary for prison. He yells Hillary for prison and Trump is like you know who's not surging in the polls. Hillary is like thank you. He's points over Joe Biggs. That's the extent of the interaction. But hear me out on this. So Joe Biggs have been has been jerking off for three years based on that. Right. Joe Biggs went there as a marketing possibility. Yeah. The idea of going there and finding out

what's going on with Trump was secondary to the idea of field testing this Hillary for prison shirt. Yeah. So he goes there as a marketing opportunity because Trump has pulled an arena full of people to Texas right which there might be audience crossover with. So Joe Biggs goes down there. He does the Superman thing and people seem to really like it. Now listen to this next clip. Oh no. So I opened up my shirt and the entire crowd erupted and you could see these different

reporters or a man get standing ovation for showing us Hillary for prison shirt and I got to a point where I just ended up pulling the blazer off in the top and just had the shirt going and see anybody could have done what I love the fact you always want the great ideas. You're always making the news. You're always making people you know Lincoln to what we're doing. Great job Joe. Well I'm telling you I probably told the least. This is probably you know nice probably a thousand

people with info wars was. I'm going to see the spike in the site last night because people are all on their phone. Where do I get that. I go to the info store man. You're going to love it. So sorry about the sound on the clips from this episode. There was just glitchy and there was nothing I could do about it. But beyond that I think that this is the moment. This is it. The Hillary for prison shirt. Yeah. It's because of the potential sales of Hillary for prison shirts. I think

that they pull on. They don't say it there at all. Yeah. But now I am I fucking love and hate how my perspective keeps changing based on the information that we keep getting. Yeah. But I legitimately think that that moment for them is transformative. Holy because they realize this is a whole market. Your argument is Alex Jones loves Trump now because of t-shirt sales. Well even go beyond t-shirt sales. It's a market a fertile market that we can tap

into. Alex Jones couldn't get an arena of people to show up somewhere. Of course not. Trump shows up to town. He's got a whole stadium full of people. Joe Biggs comes in charms them does some like grifty salesmanship shirts. I imagine behind the scenes they do what do I need you to do to get you into a t-shirt today. I imagine I don't know this but I imagine behind the scenes they saw a spike in traffic to the site probably got a bunch of sales from it and they're

like this might be something we need to do. Wow. So I think that I mean I think we always knew that there would be some sort of crass capitalism to it. Totally. This is this is too much right. Well that's field testing it though. Yeah. That's taking it to the streets. All right quote the doob's. All right we're done with that. So that's where we leave off on the 15th. There's a whole bunch of other dumb bullshit that happens on that show. Alex Jones does reveal he doesn't want

to reveal it but he does say that it costs him over 15 million dollars to run info wars for a year. Okay. So if you take that number and you consider that seems that seems honest that seems to make sense right about 15 million make sense. Well yeah it's it's in the realm of believable especially considering he runs it out of Texas and what have you but say say he's exaggerating as always. I would say 10 million does make sense though. It's me in the middle at 12 but be that

as it may. It doesn't matter. I'm glad you and I can come to a detente on it doesn't really matter whether the number is 10 or 15 right because the money bomb that we're about to get into because we're about to jump into the 16th which is the beginning of the money bomb 28 hour live broadcast. Jesus. He doesn't he's trying to make a million dollars. Yeah. So that publicly he's trying to make a million dollars right but he's trying to make a certain amount of money. Hopefully

it's a million right but all the things that he says he wants to do with that million dollars is weird hypothetical stuff about shooting the show into Europe which he said all right but she said already I'm not we're not going to do that immediately. We're going to get the satellites. Go of course then the rest of it is stuff he's already doing paying for reporters paying for cameras paying for syndication paying for closed captioning. Yeah. He's doing all of that already.

So all of that million dollars is just operating expenses that he already has accrued right. The idea that he needs this million dollars for expansion stuff expansion. Yeah. If you watch I watch them because these are I watch this shit on YouTube. Yeah. His studio looks exactly the same as it does now. There is no in from 2015 to 2017. There is no discernible change that has been made in terms of the studio. Yeah but there's upkeep. There are no people who are there that aren't

Rappaport. No fuck off Rappaport works for free. Rappaport probably does. Rappaport is soldier. Rappaport probably does work for free. But hear me out. The way I wanted to end that sentence is there's no not there isn't a greater number of people that work there that aren't balanced out by the less number of people who have quit. No I understand this change happened. So there isn't really like a wide expansion that has happened. He's pretended that an expansion in his audience

has happened. But if you look at these statistics that are available on Quantcast and other tracking sources that hasn't happened. Yeah. If you look at the numbers that are on his YouTube videos even they aren't what he says they are right unless you add all of them up and assume that all of them are different people. But be that as it may now now but he's trying to raise money for a fictitious thing that didn't happen. Yeah. Now I now I understand I understand your

point. To me though it seems like it's exactly the same thing as an NPR like hey we we do live entirely upon public money but he's because he can't supplicate himself because he can't be somebody who asks for operating costs right. He has to say it this way. It's possible. So to me I like a hyper hyper masculine NPR. It's a fundraiser. It's a hyper masculine fundraiser. That's what it seems like to me so far. Right. But typically NPR is not going to go hypothetically

out of business if they don't make the money by the end of the year. True. And I feel the panic in Alex. I don't think he's going to go out of business. He would have to he would have to reduce his standard of living. Yeah exactly. The reason that it strikes me as false and I understand what you're saying and I think there is a kernel of it because I know that it's easy for us to give a pass to NPR because we're brogy ass liberals. Yeah. But and be like hey Alex is trying

to raise money. What a dumbass. Yeah. And that's what he would think we're doing which by the way you can donate to Knowledge Fight if you go to the Knowledge Fight website and click on our link. Thank you to all the policy walks. But that's not for real. Thank you to all the policy that's not at all what I'm getting at the circumstances of it are much more interesting. Yeah. Because he's presenting a fictitious expansion of the show. So that's one. Right. He's doing it at

the end of the fiscal year which is two. And then the third is he's in this will they want they situation with Trump that is super fucked up. That's that's the thing I think we're talking about. It's not about it's not about that he needs money. It's that because he needs money there is motive there. Right. In order to make the pivot. Right. That's what we're talking about. And then maybe maybe maybe NPR is never going to do a fundraiser and then stealth vote for a candidate

because of it. No legitimate news sources don't have like they aren't doing subversive marketing. The Guardian the Guardian is now like saying like hey journalism needs to be paid for. Yeah. And rather than put us behind a paywall we need you to donate to it or we'd like it if you donated to it. Yeah. It at no point would the Guardian all of a sudden become the fucking daily mail. No. Because Trump gave them well at least we would hope not. I would hope not because Trump gave

them ten million dollars or whatever. Legitimately I believe that there is probably a future better civilization that involves all public financing for presidential campaigns political campaigns and journalism. Public financing for campaigns and journalism does make a lot of sense. Those sorts of things need to be incredibly unbiased and it's impossible to have no bias like we fucking hate Alex Jones and we hate Trump and but at the same time we I'm unbiased about Trump.

I think I think you can go back and look at my previous statements and note that I have no bias. Our bias is incredibly clear but at the same time when Alex Jones has said stuff that's like yeah rock and roll we've been totally cool with it. Yeah. We've given like we don't hate him in such a way that we will never give him props. Also Alex you really need to look into what Jeff Sessions is doing with civil asset for Oh my God. So far no comment on that that I've seen.

He might have talked about it and I missed it. If it did I apologize. So if Sessions did or didn't commit a crime because he did because he's under investigation for it. And don't we get to don't we get to take his stuff by his own rules. That's a great point. Don't we get to steal his stuff. You gotta see those those assets. I want to seize his assets. So can we make a citizen civil for for sure. That'd be great. I would just like to take like maybe 60 bucks from him. Oh

absolutely. Help me get to the end of the month. So speaking of things that I have to do with money Jordan it is time for the money. Here's the bad news. Let's edit out. Let's edit out our stay in and that's staying in. Don't worry. All right. That the money bomb is incredibly boring. Of course it is. Twenty seven hours or whatever the fuck it was. I didn't watch any of it that didn't have Alex Jones on it. Smart. But there

is one piece that I wish I had watched. Yes. That I didn't watch and I won't because why would why would I do that. Why would I put myself through it. Yeah you've already hurt yourself enough on our behalf. Here's something that we didn't realize about the money bomb. It is at the end of the fiscal year. But do you know what else happened on September 16th. No the second Republican presidential debate. They timed it to be on the night of the debate. Oh shit that's really

smart. Yeah that's really smart of them. Yeah you got to give them credit for that. That's brilliant. So during the debate what they did is Leanne McAdoo David Knight and I think Rob do I can't remember the third person but they had a panel that Mystery Science Theatred the debate. So what they did is they had their silhouettes. Oh no shit full on the backs of their heads. Fucking wow. And it I saw a couple clips of it and it's lunacy. They didn't even hire Mike Nelson for like

a day. Nothing. No no professionals on this. No fake robot either. Like Alex it would be so easy to just create a robot in there. You could get even probably the real Gypsy. Who cares. Oh he hates Gypsies though. I should be good about that. All right. I don't like even using the word Gypsy on September 10th. He did talk about how the Gypsies have free reign to steal RVs in Europe. Nope. Nope. Nope. Yeah that's that's a that's a fucking racist thing from the 1700s. What

are you doing talking about Gypsies wild. So the schedule of the 27 hour 28 hour broadcast was really disappointing. They had that you know Mystery Science Theater blah blah. They had Alex Jones for his show on on the beginning of it on the 16th and the Alex Jones show on the 17th. Beyond that it was just like their reporters tag team like Kit Daniels did a show. Never never hurt. He's a writer. He's a writer guy. He's not he's not really on air all that much. Some of these

that always goes well when you put a writer guy on air. Some of these other guys like just people Rob do interviewed Leo Zagami. You know the Illuminati insider. Yeah. They did that at midnight. Right. Not at midnight. That was like 2 a.m. It was just nonsense. They had to fucking Paul Joseph Watson doing a bunch of stuff on the off hours because he's on Greenwich meantime. Yeah. So it's again you're doing an overnight thing where no one has to stay up overnight except

for Rob do but be that as a man. Look Rob do is kind of our our tortured slave of infowars. I start to like him more and more as time goes on. I'm not comfortable. He's kind of to me every man. He's kind of a Charlie Brown like there's there's the football right there and Rob do is about to kick it and it is always pulled out. I think behind the scenes he's probably way worse than he he appears because he just seems so boring. I bet behind scenes is a dick. But probably

because how would you stay in this business for like years. That's a really good point. But at the same unless he's Renfield. Have you considered that he is actually mind controlled. No because I don't consider those sorts of things because they're lunatic. I think there's a decent chance there's a good person behind Rob do and that sucks because he's so fucking boring. But be that as it may. What we're going to be talking about is specifically and only the Alex

Jones portions of the money bomb. So we're going to start with the 16th. Alex Jones wants to talk to you about his audience size. Oh boy. I bet it's pretty big. They brought in the metrics to my house last night Buckley Hammond and Anthony Gutiarty that I have working with outside IT consulting firms and they said you're giving people two year old numbers. Here they are. They pulled them up in front of me on all the big third party sites and our own internal

server systems. Info Wars now reaches 41 million individual different people a month. This is where we get the 41 million as a reach of 1.4 billion total views on the website. Nope. If you count all of our social media it is several billion more individual users. We did a metric run with a major company and looked at our YouTube views just on the top 500 sites carrying our videos and it's over 150 million views a month. And so they're now collating all of that data will be releasing

soon but it appears we're reaching upwards of three and a half billion individual people per month. There is six billion people that have some access to the Internet. Some access three and a half people even live on the planet in your world. It's insane. What what's in full disclosure. So so six out of the seven billion people on this fucking planet have Internet access which isn't true at all. That's not even close to true. No three point two three point three between three

point two and three point six per billion have Internet. Oh OK well then all of them so all of them. Yeah. Now Alex here's something that's very interesting. Seven hundred billion of those people who have Internet 700 million of those people. So I'm sorry. Seven hundred million of those people live in China. None of them have access to Info Wars. Oh that's right. They don't even have access to it. No way. It's answered. That's all holy shit. Almost a billion of

the people who have access to the Internet who have a censored Internet. Alex Jones spends all this time talking about the chai comms and shit. There's no way there's no way they can watch it. No shit. Of course. That's 700 million of them. Now it's literally impossible. Well that covers so that he said there's six billion listening to him. Right. So that's 700 million covers the extra billion. No because he's talking about the people who have access to the. Oh that's right.

It's only three and a half million who actually listen to three and a half billion. Yeah. Who actually listen to him. No. No. No. He's saying that they reach. They reach. What is that even fucking mean. It's bullshit Internet social media nonsense. Yeah. It's the same reason he says that Paul Joseph Watson's videos have millions of views. It's because they post them on Facebook and people scroll past it. It auto plays and that counts as a play. It's the same. Is that real.

That actually counts as a play. Yeah. You look at all these nonsense videos that no one's watching. Yeah. Add videos and says like two million. I haven't been on Facebook for a good year. I remember this from back when I was when I was trolling around on that site. Yeah. Looking up old girlfriends. That's what most people do. But he's also we have to we really really have to point out he's double triple and quadruple counting shit. There's absolutely no way because he's talking about the

top hundred sites that post our videos which we've already established is he's it like what he's not even in the top two hundred. No. No. No. He's talking about the places that post his. Oh OK. OK. OK. Do you understand how YouTube's analytics work. Yes. If you. Well I mean no but as you've explained them to me in regards to Alex Jones. Yes. If you embed a video on your blog let's say from YouTube and someone plays it from the blog it counts as a hit on YouTube

but if there is you know this this blog post that is about your video you can count that as another hit. So it's two hits for the yeah for every single person who does either. Right. So you've already doubled your hits even though it's only one view. Yeah. And Alex Jones is doing that all over the fucking place. So if there's like five websites yeah all of them you read because you're an avid info warrior. Right. And there's probably like 10 views. World net daily reposts their

stuff. Yeah. Breitbart has in the past done like reposted their links and videos. How many. Well just with the emails Trump has sent out to all of his donors with info wars links on it and he's actually like in that link there was a video embedded. Yeah. Of course. So that counts. So that counts double. There's there's massive manipulation going on there in terms of the audience size. Right. And that is exactly how you want to start the money bomb. Of course. That's how you

want to start it. Yeah. We're reaching 3.5 billion people a month. Right. That's everyone in the world because consider it. Think about how many children there are. You know what I'm saying. We talk about there being seven billion people seven and a half billion people in the world. How many of those people are under 12. Most of them are dying and most of them are just born. Yeah. So three point five billion is every adult. Yeah. Yeah. That is basic. That's more than every

adult. Basically. Wow. And then you consider the amount of people who have no internet access. You consider Chinese and they're not the only country that restricts the internet. No of course not. So you have other countries that have blocked internet. Yeah. Consider Saudi Arabia. Yeah. You consider those populations. His numbers make no fucking sense. His best way of trying to best he's reaching 10 guys. Yeah. And one of them is me. So you're down 10 percent. Exactly. Yeah. He tries

to sort of like couch and he's like now maybe people are coming to our site from different devices. So maybe we're reaching a billion a month. So would you even that's crazy. So wait. So if you if you check your Facebook. Yeah. On your computer. Yeah. And then you check check your Facebook on your phone. Yeah. That counts as a different view. Well I think if you track IP addresses. Yeah. I think that is the case especially if you're using mobile like if you're on the bus and you check

your Facebook. Yeah. It would be different than you checking it. Yeah. So that's multiple views on top of that. Yeah. And it makes it incredibly difficult to tell like exactly what your metrics are. Yeah. Unless you have he's not sort of he's not doing legit work in terms of new. It's so crazy to me. But I love it. I love it. I love it. That's the kind of stuff I love. That's because after that it's math. Well there's no there's no arguing with math. But all of this other

stuff we can deal with reality versus non reality. And there is a question there and there are kernels of truth. Yeah. In this regard it is pure analytics. You're lying and I cut the and you know you're lying. Yeah. Yeah. I cut the clip and where he goes from there is to talk about how like I'm I'm humbled that I'm talking to this many people. It's like do you know you're lying. Yeah. What's going on here. It's just this. He knows he has this presentation of humility that's

really fascinating. But it has to know. There's no possible way he doesn't know Alex beyond his bullshit about his audience eyes. He has some other things he wants to talk about on the bunny bomb and this next one Jordan. I've said a lot of things are not true that Alex Jones says in the past. Yeah. This one know I don't know how many but it's astronomical. It's maybe three and a half billion things that you have said are not true that this next one is bigly not true. I don't like that

because I never get scared when I'm awake during the day. I always start crying. I think about this because I don't want to leave my kids alone now more than ever. My children need me now more than ever. I'm pretty much the only people there for them because I know in my heart that as all this unfolds this show is going to get bigger and more popular. You got freaked out because we know what's going on girls in a Starbucks. You're always there globalist that I'll be just

fine until all this comes true. And then that's when I better stop. I want to I want to I want to go back and play that I got angry and it's screwed everything up. I apologize. All right. And I've been told by top globalist that I'll be just fine until all this comes true. And then that's when I better stop. And the criticism is what do you want money for if you're ready to stop. I'm not going to stop during the collapse. I'm going to go to the next level and put everything

on the table and be all in. That's what you do when the enemy comes in like a flood. This is the end of the West the end of humanity as we know it. This is a total satanic take over. Don't you understand it's real. No it's not but you got told by a top globalist. What what top globalists are George Soros. Is he hanging out with Soros. Why is he what. Okay. You believe that the globalists are demonic. Yeah. Beings from a different dimension which I would say I would say I would

say if that is true. If you see one kill it. Yeah right. Yeah right. Why would you why would you have like a patient conversation or cocktail party. Hey listen. I know you're a demonic monster hell bent on destroying humanity right but come on you got any juicy inside tips for me like what do you I'm doing a radio show. Come on. Am I. That's right because that's what he's talking about. Yeah. He's talking to these top globalists who are like keep on your keep on your your

shit. Well no this goes back to until we win this which case you better get you better get out. This goes back to what we're talking about at the beginning of this episode this idea of the Internet version of the elites and the Illuminati. They need to have everyone know what they're doing. It's that lesser magic. Yeah. Yeah. You need to know what we're doing to you and then if you don't do anything you consent to it. They they're using Alex as a conduit to tell people what

they're doing to them and if they don't fight back then but fucking believable. What's magical about that entire line of argument is hey the only way to really fight back is give Alex Jones money. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. He's the only one who's saying this crazy bullshit. I guess if I don't really support him then I consented to the being destroyed and then demons are going to take over. That is brilliant. That is brilliant. It's brilliant. That is brilliant. It's so I don't think

stupid. I don't think you can. I don't think most of his listeners would be able to articulate exactly what line of or that train of logic because they have too much fluoride in the water but it makes perfect sense. Of course if you are an insane person or if you're just an afraid person because that's what this it's not that these people are all insane. It's that they're terrified and they don't know what's going on. I've spent a lot of periods of my life in

various stages of paranoia and anxiety. I have mental illness. I've done a lot of drugs in the past and so I know weird head spaces and I can sort of I can suss out where things are coming from. Right. I don't I don't mean to put too fine a point on this but I've dwelt in the weirdest parts of the Internet like these these conspiracy forums and these weird Illuminati forums these message boards like I've read all this stuff that people talk about and none of it's based

on anything and so much of it is mirrored in what Alex is talking about this idea of the lesser magic the idea that we've got to tell you then you then you're in it's so dumb it's so based on nothing and it's so manipulative and that's what he's doing. It's great. I love it. Top globalists say he's safe. Why what who is how is he even getting a meeting with top globalists. He runs into him all the time. Remember he talked to that one on the. Oh that's right. He runs into him

all the time. They keep and they keep calling him trying to get him. They are everywhere. They need to join up. Absolutely. No I got you. They're always courting Alex Jones. You're right. So Alex. It's such a frustrating part of the mythology that it's just like his fucking Prometheus bullshit like we need to be more like Prometheus who God loved and like wait no hold on one second. You don't understand. No no no you misinterpreted that. Oh I did. Yeah. You misinterpreted

so because what he's saying is the God the I would be into the elite version that I would be into is that one who brings us Promethean fire. Now Prometheus did bring us the fire and then got his liver packed out. He got wrecked. Yeah but that but that's the sacrifice that he makes for humanity. Yeah. So Alex's point is actually very valid in that case is that the God that I would worship is the one that builds us up because Prometheus did give us fire. Yeah but I don't think

I don't think there is one. No quiet. We have a lot of Christian knowledge fighters. Yeah I bet we do. We do. And if you do God bless you. I don't care. I don't I don't think there's anything intrinsically negative about religion. I think it can bring a lot to your life. No comment. So this next clip Alex Jones has been on his bullshit for about ever about these liberals want to kill cops. Yes. Oh God. I don't want to get into the cop. No this one's fun. Okay. So he has an interview with this

guy named James Wesley Rawls who runs a site. That's a great name. It's not bad. Great name. Good for a serial killer got three names. Absolutely. Oh yeah. He would totally be serial killed by that guy. He runs a website called survival blog dot com. He tells you how to survive serial killers like tells you how to survive his own serial killing. I think it's a lot of prepping stuff to be murdered by me. Yeah. Here's a step by step. Don't piss me off. That's it. That's the whole

blog. He is a guy who used to come on on Skype. I'm basing this on what Alex has told us. Okay. Used to come on on Skype. Now you don't even want your picture out there because you're so freaked out too much. Weirdo. So most of the show is an interview with this guy when they get into talking about cop killing rhetoric and what have you here. Here's that clip. It's a paradox. They're awake but they still follow orders. The citizens are awake. We still put up with it. Meanwhile

leftist are out killing police. So they're so fired up once we demonstrate they'll attack us. I wish there was some sophistication out there that everyone not be played like fiddles. Right. Well right now we have a lot of people being played like puppets indeed where radicals are being pushed toward killing police officers for example. Where you know that there wasn't even talk of that for about a twenty four five period in this country. You have to go all the way back

to late 1960s or early 70s with a Black Panther movement to see you know they at the time they referred to as the kill with police movement. Fucking anybody. That kind of went quiet for a long long time in this nation and seeing that reemerge is very troubling. That's very troubling. What's more troubling. Fucking listen to anybody who's not fucking white. NWA had fucked the police in 1988. What is this too. Body count had cop killer in 1992. How many how many times does

this happen. This happens to so many nine nine one one is a joke came out in 1990 granted that wasn't killing but that was so many white people always come with. I've never heard this shit before. Yeah. When did they start talking about this. It got like fucking everybody always. And that I mean I think that's really like when we talk about like feminism and racism and these sorts of things and how blind Alex is to so many things on how reactionary is a lot of it

really does boil down in some ways to like you're not listening. Well you're not listening and nobody and maybe the larger avenue there is just that nobody was nobody in your world was talking about it. Yeah. And that was that was a thing like if you go back to the 80s with NWA you see all those local news spots going are is wrapped out of control like all of those different things and never how many are black people being murdered by the cops. Now let's take like reality out of

it and sensible discourse out of it. Let's just remove that for a second which is the entire focus of the spot. Think about how many people were fucking talking about taking out the police after the Rodney King. Oh my God. And that was not in the 60s. No. I mean like even that is just a very clear example of fucking James Wesley Rawls is an idiot. Yeah. He is a fucking a historical idiot. Right. But hey you know what he's got a blog. That's pretty cool. God damn it. So James

Wesley Rawls is a naughty kind of dude. One of his basic arguments that he's making within this interview is that the globalists created radical Islam in order to fight against them. Logical. Like they're fighting against the West because they needed a better enemy. Controlled opposition. Yeah. They needed like we had the Nazis. Now we got to get him Islam. They need a scary enemy that they can fight against and in that way curtail our freedoms and then create a one world religion

that is partially Islamic and one world government. Sure. It's nonsense. But again it doubles back into this shit that Alex talks about where like you're you're radicalizing the enemy that you are imagining in order to justify your radical nature. Yeah. There's a ton of that in his his discourse and like this is the fucking money bomb. Most of the show. Right. This is the money bomb. Most of the show. It's fear. It's fear. Yes. Yeah. Fear and money bomb is fear. Fear and we are much

more numerous than you think. Uh huh. You are not alone. It's all of us. There's 3.5 billion of us. Yeah. Don't feel bad. Don't eat to us because you're just one of it's like it's like when a busker has a dollar bill already in his hat whenever he pulls it out. You're priming the pot. Exactly. You're making sure that people know it's okay. Yeah. There's 3.5 billion people behind you. Yeah. But just fucking support us because we're the only ones fighting these fake globalists.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Before Rawls gets out. Can you imagine how much money he would have if he actually reached 3.5 billion people? Well, if everyone gave him a quarter. Yeah. Yeah. Oh man. And considering the insane markup he has on these products even when they're on sale which I don't I didn't even mean to bring up but let's fucking talk about it. Okay. Let's get into it. During the money bomb unprecedented sales. Is it like an Easter sale? Yeah. He's 30% off. He's

constantly talking about like all right. Got the brain force that's on sale until the show is over. Got free shipping on everything. Infomercials. He's basically talking about things being at cost. Yeah. Just like got to move it. That sort of thing. Yeah. He's like you know this is a lost leader. Everyone's going to come in and make money on it which is bullshit. I mean well he's pretending. If you if you are looking at the end of the fiscal year though just because

you got to get that product out of there if you're selling it because other revenue. Yeah. Otherwise it doesn't matter if you're making a profit on it or not. It's still money you have. And it's not like that stuff you bought isn't going to factor into the end of the fiscal year. Of course. Of course. You're balancing the books in some ways even if you sell it for no profit. Yeah. Which might I don't know when we got into business. I don't know. Oh that's right. You

are an account. But it might still be. I'm just an interested party. It might be indicative of the fact that he is he may be overbought and is in a hole or just isn't a hole generally. I don't know. Anyway. Rawls before he gets out of the episode has to say one of the scariest things I've heard a guest say on Alex Jones' show. Oh boy. Here we go. There's going to be huge numbers of Christian refugees in the in coming decades. And I believe that there is actually a need

for a new homeland nation. For persecuted Christian and Messianic Jewish refugees who are going to be pushed out of countries in huge numbers in the years to come. And that's why I decided to write my counter caliphate Chronicles series. That first novel called Land of Promise describes the establishment of a Christian homeland nation. And I also made it fictionally a Christian libertarian nation to illustrate a lot of other points. But I do think that

that is needed. And we need to pray that God would provide a safe haven for persecuted Christians all over the world. I would argue that most of the time when religiously specific countries have been created it hasn't gone great. How the thing I hear there though is that he's saying so many Christian refugees. We need a homeland nation. And we're creating a counter caliphate which is like the counter caliphate is the name of his novel series. Yeah. But the

point being we hate this thing that is persecuting us. So let's make exactly that thing. But our version. But our version. Yeah. That's insane to me. That mentality pervades Alex Jones' guess. Well that's a good point. I don't understand why you're shocked. I know. But it just every well and frankly this is what we've been talking about for months now. Yeah. But it is. It never fails to surprise me that people don't stop for one fucking second and think oh well this

is thing is bad. So let's not do this thing. Well because they have this. But then again then again you know what at the same point every every Democrat said you know when they go low we go high like not every not every well no not every Democrat but Marty DeRosa fucking policy wonk in front of the show. He and I were having this conversation where it's like we all said when they go low we go high and now we're kind of at the position where it's like oh when they

go low you fucking go goddamn lower fucking get into there. So I don't know. I don't know. Right. I don't know. Don't know somebody when they've taken out your knees like I don't know. That's not. That's not in any way justifying the idea like we need our own problems. OK. So the rest of Alex Jones is September 16th show for the money bomb before before we go any further. I do think he's right. There will be a lot of Christian refugees in the same way that there will be a lot of

refugees total period immediately follow like considering the effects of climate change. Yeah. What does happen in our country in specific right. So right now we have a shit ton of Muslim refugees from all of these places and but not in but not entirely. It's not all Muslims. But my point is that so many people are up in arms about this when we just start talking about refugees with no religion in front of it. Right. Think about how many Christian refugees and how many all of

these things. Everyone's going to scapegoat depending on the adjective that is part of the refugee part. Exactly. Yeah. How many refugees. How many Christian refugees. What's the number before people start saying well we don't want any more. Right. It's the it's the fun part of complaining about refugees stuff because like they're going to be Christians while you deny climate change. Exactly. It's a fun game. This is going to happen. It's a fun fun game. What's the number

though. Like how many for fuck's sakes. Imagine we're talking about Rome all of the Catholics for whatever reason need to move. How many how many people in the United States before it starts going like well we can't allow any refugees. No regardless of religion. Let's imagine just can't allow refugees in but let's even imagine a scenario where in this may not be the case. I'm not saying it necessarily is but let's imagine a scenario where it just so happens that Muslim dominated

countries happen to be the places that are safer from climate change. Let's imagine that right. Let's imagine like Saudi Arabia is a place that is unaffected by climate change and now these Catholics that are displaced because it's a fucking desert. So these and now it's wonderful. Yeah. Now it's a fucking utopia. So let's imagine these these Catholics from the south of Italy where it's flooded to shit. Right. Now I have to find this is fucking gone. Done. Yeah. So now they

have to go somewhere and they go into Saudi Arabia and Saudi Arabia. I mean let's not unpack all of their negative cultural problems. Let's just talk about people coming in. Let's say that they have a way of life and these Catholics come in and want to change everything. Yeah. Oh yeah. How how is it that people can't do that next step thought. I don't know. Like think about that reciprocity. I think people are too caught up in their identity. Yeah. That's probably true.

That's why whenever we talk about Alex Jones when I don't like to call him a white supremacist I like to call tell say that he's caught up in white identity white Christian male identity yeah because that I think is more to the point than saying he's a white supremacist. It's way too easy to say that like he thinks he's better than everybody because of course he does yeah but he what really motivates him is his identification with yeah what makes him white what makes him male what makes

him Christian. Right. And I think that it's too threatening to a lot of people to imagine a world where in that identity is problematic to other people. Yeah. Yeah because it becomes threatening. That's the whole that's the whole fight. Right. Like that's their whole argument is that because the demographics are changing all of a sudden they have the thought of wait maybe they start thinking what we think about them about us. Well I mean it's the same. I mean I read a really

interesting assessment of a lot of someone was pointing out that a lot of homophobia is based on a fear by really aggressive angry dudes that men will treat them like they treat women. And I think that there is a bit of that in that's a really good thought. I think there's a lot of that in tons of tons of this stuff. Alex is afraid that minorities will treat him how he thinks about them. It's reciprocity. Yeah. That's what they're really afraid of all of their crimes

coming back against them. Right. They're afraid of karma in many ways. Yeah. So the rest of the that's just that's just the thing that I I have always considered and it is one of those things in the later stages of Obama's presidency that I was concerned about is because of that executive overreach because of how much power we gave Obama Trump now has that power like they just never we never considered that it could be used against us. That's not true in the I mean I

agree with the point but it when that was happening when that executive power was given to Obama there were people such as myself and other folks. Yeah you as well. Yeah. Who like this is not good. Yeah. There should not be like and it goes back to Bush the idea of being able to unilaterally launch wars. Yeah. That sort of thing is not in the power of the executive the executive branch became way too strong and even with Obama in power I know tons of Democrats and liberal minded

people who were super against that. Yeah. And it wasn't enough. It wasn't enough to sway the Congress sway the actual people who made decisions. Yeah. Imagine imagine. Yeah. No I'm I'm out. It just becomes out. That's insane. Well I mean it's insane. It's it's political opportunism by the I mean if we keep this conversation going more than 10 minutes we're going to say let's overthrow because I think this whole thing has been me just pushing you closer to my side. Little do

you know I'm already there but don't reveal that so reveal that you're here our cover. So September 16. I'm the revolution. You're the one who's keeping us legitimate part one of the money bomb and ends with a long interview with Dr. Group. Dr. Group runs the fourth hour of the show before they hand it off to whoever dumbass Joe Biggs. I'm not sure who cares. Yeah. They keep the marathon going. He's just trying to sell a lot of products. He does a bunch of

bullshit but before he leaves before Alex leaves he says that his predictions have never been wrong. He's basically a psychic yeah and that he agreed his sixth sense is on fire like never before race memory. That's a quote. Yeah. My sixth sense is on fire like it's never been before. First of all I don't think you have a second sense a sixth sense. Don't care. I think that you are freaked out certainly. Yeah. Then he had this quote that I thought was really fucking awesome and it

was if you're nouveau riche and you're not giving us money or and then there's a long list of things basically that are just about it giving him press like buying us a billboard yeah. You're crazy. If you're nouveau riche is that what he phrases like all right because he wants to delineate between like people who have money old money. Yeah. It's not old money. It's the it's the new it's the dot com billionaires who he's he's really courting. So now here's where things get really

fun. Where is that. Alex Jones did his show on September 16 then he was due to come back from 10 to 11 p.m. Yes to do an interview with Larry Nichols. Yes they were going to do an Stevie Larry. They're going to do an hour long interview and then they were going to premiere a documentary. Oh no he sent people down to tape Larry Nichols at his house who's his address has been given out on our show and his phone number if you'd like to call him please. I think we've locked that

out. Please email knowledge fight.com. I will fucking give you his phone number. I don't give a shit. He gave it out on there. He did and it's still on the Internet on Alex Jones's channel. But be that as it may. They sent them out there. They made a documentary and Alex is going to do an hour long interview with Larry to like proceed it. Larry clearly didn't answer the phone because the first on purpose. I think he was asleep. Okay. The first hour of the show is Alex Jones vamping

like hell. He's just talking about like my early days on radio. We're great. It's just like it's so much filler for like the first 25 minutes. There are two kinds of people people on the radio and then people not on the radio. What he's trying to do is he's trying to say things without getting into anything that he can't bail from if Larry gets on the phone at any point. Yeah. He's in that like that maintenance like let's yeah he's stretching. Yeah exactly. Yeah. And

so about 25 minutes or so 30 minutes in Larry Nichols finally gets on the phone and they just talk about how much Hillary sucks of course because that's his his bread and butter and Larry Nichols drops this chestnut. Okay. What Hillary needs to do and what she's going to do is she's going to make herself the underdog. That's why she released all this information about the servers. Wait. She did that. Hillary released her own the own the information about the servers. Yes. Yes.

Because she needs to make herself the underdog which is out of Larry Nichols playbook from way back in the Arkansas days they had to make Bill Clinton an underdog in order to make cause everyone loves an underdog. But Bill Clinton was the underdog. Right. It's all nonsense. It's all it and if you actually look at Larry Nichols actual history with the Clintons it doesn't know that doesn't he doesn't scan at all. He wasn't involved with any of the stuff he says he was

involved with. No. But so he that's his big sort of selling point. Yeah. Is that she did all this shit to herself because the Clintons and the Bushes are dynastic families. They're always going to be at the top so they have to make themselves the underdogs in order for you to kind of care about them. Yeah. So he goes on to say these next two things on the show that are dumb. They only have 20 minutes or so to do their interview before they. Yeah. They've already they've already

bailed on so they spend 10 minutes of it with Alex Jones vamping more because Larry Nichols has to take his dog out to ship. It's crazy. That's cute. It is. It's it's humanizing in some ways but it's terrible radio. It's terrible. Even Hitler's dog loved him. Yeah. But here is something that Larry Nichols predicts about Hillary that did not come true. You said that first months ago now it's in the news that Obama's after Hillary and she's even attacking Obama now. Yeah. Here's what

you will watch. Here's what's coming. They're following our playbook this time exactly Alex. She's going to start the tearing tour. Now when Hillary goes out she's going to tear up. So that's misogynistic as now when Hillary goes out she's going to tear up. She's going to start crying. She's going to start crying because everybody respects a woman who cries. Sure. Everybody's like oh this woman cries that makes me want her to be president. Well there's no inherent

misogyny behind a woman crying that oh fuck off. Yeah. Fuck you Larry Nichols in the same way that Alex always complains that like hey you call me racist and that's your way of taking my power. He believes that like a woman starts crying and now I got to be chivalrous. Yeah. It's that same thing. It's a load of bullshit. Also Hillary Clinton say what you want about her did not cry. She came out and defended herself quite unmerbly. No. So yeah. Whatever Larry Nichols idea say

whatever you want about Hillary's campaign Hillary fucking brought it and gotta give her that and she stood up to these these attacks. Yeah. And didn't you apologize for things that you thought was like maybe a error in judgment. Yeah. Those sorts of things but yeah the super predator shit bad. Yeah. Didn't but didn't back down to this right wing conspiracy that mostly tracks back to Larry Nichols. Exactly. Like Larry Nichols legitimately is such a problem in the world. Right.

He's so terrible. Wow. But as much as he has a problem in terms of all the stuff he's done with the Clintons he's a huge problem in general. Like I know he we've talked about this. He was saying that Obama wants to become the last president because then he becomes king like like the Pat Nozowalt bit about Bush where he wants to become the last president. Right but he's not doing comedy. Yeah. No he's not. He's not very funny about this at all. He will become the king and then

once the caliphate etc. becomes the king of the Muslims. Yeah. Now which will never stop. That's that will never not make me laugh. That's funny. King of the Muslims. That's funny. Yeah. But listen to this next clip of Larry Nichols and realize how much he fucking hates Muslims and realize this is Nichols hating. Yeah. Okay. It's it this is no longer funny. All right. I just can't believe it. I just can't believe what I mean what type of psycho scum you've been

around these people but but I mean they weren't even that bad back then. Have they gone crazy? In my day bad guys would look good today. Bad guys today. Bad guys back then. Honestly Alex would be heroes today if you can believe that. Remember this term. Talk about I mean talk about I mean and what they're doing with this flood of immigrants that are going all over Europe. That's the spread. They're moving in. They're setting up caliphates buddy. How about I mean it's

when they spread when they spread and they get into more you know the first one comes and well gosh he's a great little Muslim. You know what? They're just really nice people. We could probably let another one in. Well then in comes another one. You know they're just really nice people but read the Koran folks one day every I hope you get more lung cancer is going to come to where what they call the river. Can you get more lung cancer you fucking pile of garbage three times in

the grand it says peace love dope. You got it three times seventy some odd times. It says try to convert the infidel three times. Oh my fucking God read the Bible you pile. Fuck you. They got a great pain. Look what they did in Africa Alex convert Islam or die. We can't grow Christianity you believe in Jesus Christ. We're gonna cut head off crusades. They're growing fucking while we in America have become cowards. What are we going to be racist against

people saying I'm gonna kill you if you don't convert to my religion. That's actually a really good question. I just can't help it. Let me ask you this. I'm gonna pose this question for you. Dearborn Michigan you know has got a huge population of Muslims. They even do that little wacky thing. You know every time at the day where they do the prayer I don't allow speak the wacky. Tell me exactly what would happen Alex if tomorrow morning we wake up in Dearborn

Michigan the Muslim community there declares itself a caliphate. Now what would happen. They would say it's religious freedom down that area of Michigan be under Islamic rule and the government would submit to it and the left is promoting it. There's no way folks do you really believe we would take our government and Alex and bribe them out of there. Yeah probably I assume if it was like an insurrection or some sort. We put down we put down the whiskey

rebellion with force like it. It's not like we're new to the National Guard coming into murder people. Yeah and take murder them out of the equation like the government did what it had to do with like the Bundy Ranch and that wildlife preserve. Yeah like they did it admirably without killing anybody except for that one guy one guy they killed that one guy but he had it coming when you when you say admirably you suggest that it's admirable that they didn't all die so much

now I respect you for that opinion admirable means a lot of restraint because the the restraint I wish they afforded all other people that white right. Yeah I 100% agree with that. Yeah but like his presentation of it like what if they just declared a caliphate like well that's a fun hypothetical result not happening. Second of all if it did of course that wouldn't fly. What if our country just broke into another and just declared a Christian nation. Right. What kind of

monsters would we be or what if let's say Dearborn Michigan had a huge Christian population and they decided we are going to be now a completely theocratic theocratic Christian city. Oh do you mean just Dearborn. A lot of cities. I don't know. Oh man. How can I keep saying how can I keep saying how can as if as if I don't I don't get that the concept behind this you're like that girl on clueless like as if I just as if I just genuinely believe that human beings are

capable of some kind of rational thought and I'm consistently proven wrong and the worst part is I'm consistently proven wrong in the same fucking episode. Yeah. Yeah there's no rationality here. So it's nuts. Larry Nichols has a bunch of dumb ass bullshit as he's known to do on the streets as is his want. Yeah. And then they play the streets like he's in the wire. Yeah. He's Marla out there. Yeah. My name is my name. So Larry Nichols then they play the documentary. I don't

have any clips of it because who gives a fuck. But they actually okay. It's just him talking about how like now Hillary she is not going to be taken down by Benghazi stuff. She's slippery but what's going to take her down is the documents I have about Vince Foster's murder which man which we have already covered him saying that the document that he has about Vince Foster's murder just miraculously showed up in his mailbox crazy. Yeah it showed up in his mail. Yes. He gave out his he gave out his

address and then the document proving. Yeah maybe maybe someone falsified that based on how you keep going on radio shows. Yeah. I got a Twitter DM saying it was true. Yep. That's Paul Joseph Watson style. There we go. So like is that and he's just like that. But there's one moment of true comedy where he talks about how I used to be a bad man. I was involved with the Clintons and then my dad got lung cancer and while he's talking about that the video is him smoking a cigarette. I don't know

why he got lung cancer is probably probably some globalist plot. They have cures for lung cancer. Don't that is life changing moment that he's describing is brought on by the thing he's doing in the video. It's crazy. Oh man. He's like I couldn't be involved with these Clintons anymore. What about if they the drugs they brought in my daughter was doing. So was it like with Larry Nichols was it really just him kind of getting fucked over and then realized he got fired. Yeah but

it but then he just realized he had a he had a gig just talking shit about the Clintons. I don't think like that was the that was the Genesis. I don't think any idea how well this was going to work out. Oh that's possible. I think he was a bitter vindictive dude who was a piece of shit and was involved was is a piece of shit. He was involved with until he dies and we're going to call him on that and I'm not entirely sure what the circumstances were but he was involved with the Contras.

Yeah like he was involved with like Ali North and all them. That's why he got fired from Clintons White House. Oh do you mean legitimately. Yeah he was crazy. He kept making collect calls and shit like that to the Nicaragua and that's why he ended up getting fired because it was a completely traceable thing. We have a call. We have a call for you from Larry Nichols. Will you accept the charges. Hang up. Hang up. No he's just going to complain about his dog shit. But like that

is this motherfucker. That's looking. He was involved as a functionary like he was hired in some way. I'm not entirely sure what other connections he had at that point. That's very difficult to trace but he got fired. He blamed Bill for it and then created this elaborate backstory that has been shown to be mostly false repeat repeatedly on so many so many again. We've talked about this a bunch but it bears repeating if you haven't listened to all of our episodes. He was on a

right wing radio show and claimed to be an assassin who killed people for hire for the Clintons. He was their hired assassin. He said that on a radio show and then when asked about it said I was high on pills when I was on that show. Yeah. I didn't. I didn't mean to say that. I never want to say that. That's the kind of person we're talking about. It's just once again. It's important to note Vince Foster killed himself. Yeah. It was not a murder. Yeah and the reason

that most people think it's a murder is because of this document. Yeah. That just mysteriously showed up in Larry Nichols. Yeah. And fucking. Well but a lot of that is from Larry Nichols stuff. Yeah. Like the. Yeah. No exactly. What they were the ones who publicized it. But what they were. The. Report of their time. Yes. Yeah. But like the idea that like his body was moved all that stuff. Yeah. The Clintons forced the park department to take the murder investigation

instead of the FBI. All that stuff comes from Larry Nichols and it's sure it. I've seen the document that Larry Nichols has like they've played it on the Alex Jones show. It's crazy that it was written in crayon. It might as well have been. Yeah. So anyway that is the late night portion of the 16th now we get to the 17th the money bomb the end of the money bomb. The money bomb. We are now. We are now about 24 hours into the money bomb. Jesus. And Alex Jones is trying to raise

a million dollars. What kind of lunatic would watch this much info wars. You're looking at him. Fair. You don't even watch the day of the night parts. Come on. No. Like like I understand. I understand the idea of volume. I've watched it. Yeah. Watch when the side characters are involved. They're terrible. But why would you do this. I just don't understand what it is they think is going to happen if you do a 27 hour show versus a four hour show. Like who is watching. Can I

explain. Actually yes please so much. Alex Jones knows full while that the only times they're going to be making money or during his show. But maybe we get a couple thousand. Maybe we get a little bit of stragglers. Yeah. I don't have to do any fucking work. Rob do is doing that work. That's true. All that they're doing it and there's a little bit of a stunt aspect to it. Yeah. Maybe some people will throw us a couple thousand dollars because of it. You know like a big donation.

Yeah. So there's that. There's just we need to be a thinner net on the on the like it's a drain and we got to catch as much as we can. We got to tighten the drain. We got to make sure we're catching all that hair. Now hair is not what you want. But that hair is money in this metaphor. So you got to catch all of it. I I'm not thrilled with this. I love it. I love it. But you're but you're crushing it so far. Keep on going. It's the difference between using a thick or thin

comb. You know like OK. It's just like fine comb. We got to get all the money out of this. We can. Whole day someone will tune in and maybe be like all right. I love Liberty. Here's some money. Yeah. See even I just think of it in comparison to like our usual like or like or like with Jimmy Pardo like the the they do that. But exactly like their point though is we're going to continue to have a show. Well this is going to be something we're going to have these different guests.

We're going to have all different types of they don't have many guests for you to tune into even if you're not interested for two hours. Like hey maybe you're a big fan of Doug Benson or whatever. Leo Zagami. Yeah. So you show up. It was great on our cast. That would be amazing. That would be amazing. But but that's that's the thing like other other marathons. Yeah. Have this kind of idea of like. Can I can I can I stop you. Can I stop you. And he doesn't. Can I stop

you. Sure. Most marathons have good will. You know like fair fair. Most marathons come from a place of we want to do good. Yeah. Right. You're right. Most of the time what they're doing even if it's you know Jerry's kids or or a podcastathon. Yeah. They're raising money for charity and they hope that things are entertaining and I've watched podcastathon for years and boy a lot of it is not entertaining it's true a lot of times at the slob no argument this they

don't give a fuck. They don't really care. It's just a crass marketing campaign. Right. It's not like this money is going to charity. Right. He's made it very clear the money is just going to the things we already do. Yeah. He's presenting it as things we're going to do in the future but it's what they already do. Right. It's just a fucking slap dash and he's not even offering mugs to people like NPR does. Right. So take that part out of it. Yeah. He's

just he it's it's just madcap desperation. So when he ended his show on the 16th they had you know in the hundreds of thousands of dollars raised. Yeah. They were pretty well on their way and here's where we start on the 17th. Here's where the finances are on the beginning of the 17th. We need about a million dollars to be able to not have to flog the advertising and really push this and five hundred and sixty something thousand dollars. They're just about to update the

graph there that shows it has come in and the biggest money about we ever had brought in about six hundred and fifty thousand dollars. So I guess we're going to break our record today. Oh they just updated. It's more than I thought five hundred and seventy two thousand dollars one hundred ninety seven dollars five hundred and seventy two thousand one hundred ninety seven dollars and so we've already reached the goal of the satellite to close captioning

and have over one hundred and seventy thousand dollars towards crew towards travel towards camera folks towards editing towards research towards reporters crew research cameras research. Come on. Come on. Yeah. Come on. Don't pretend you're doing that. Come on. But all the other stuff that he lists is stuff that he's already doing. So like he's presenting it as fuck we're twenty four hours and we have like five hundred fifty thousand dollars. Yeah. We're not

making this million. Yeah. I think there is a part of him that's realizing my audience is not as potent as I want because a million dollars he's been presenting it this entire lead up to it as it's not that much money. We're trying to run a media operation. It sounds like a lot. It's not that much. He's milking this stone. He's trying to get blood out of the stone. Yeah. And all he's been able to do is I'll tell you this. He ends with seven hundred

thousand dollars. Yeah. Or so right around there which is three hundred thousand short of their goal. Now granted. Yeah. Do make their goal later days later because they've just added all of their sales that they've gotten. Yeah. From other stuff. Yeah. So like and I don't but but the thing that I think is that at a certain point he didn't need the money like I guarantee that he needed half a million. Yeah. But he wanted a million. Yeah. And so it became a

thing where now it's not about money. It's about pride. It's about who am I. It's about how much do I think I'm worried. And that's why you can hear a little bit of deflation. Yeah. Exactly. He expected to wake up. It's not desperation. It's deflation. Exactly. Like it's the word you said it's ego damage. Yeah. Exactly. He expected to wake up and the goal be met. He expected he'd do this show with Larry Nichols that air that documentary that everyone

wants to see. Everybody does. Which is terrible. Also it's like 28 30 minutes long. It's a disaster. Fuck. Everyone should watch it though. It's so bad. It's 30 minutes. It's so it's short. It's Larry Nichols smoking and telling bullshit. But like he expected I'm going to I'm going to come in on this September 17th the end of the money bomb and either it's going to be we're at nine hundred thousand and we just got to get the last push or already. Right. And

we're going to I started this money bomb by saying we have three point five billion or three point five billion people we touch. Yeah. With our social media presence and I think he's starting to realize he ain't got shit. Right. Which goes back to what I was talking about with Joe Biggs. Right. When he went there and did the Superman with his Hillary for Prism shirt and everyone in the fucking arena there for Trump recognized oh shit. Okay. I think that my premise that

the money bomb was when money gets funneled in. Yeah. I was wrong. But I think the disaster not disaster necessarily I would love five hundred thousand dollars seven thousand dollars. I would love that. But the disappointment of how potent his audience is compared to how glorious the reaction was from this Trump audience. Yeah. I think that those two things do meld in Alex's mind. Okay. So you're seeing you're seeing his money bomb as him recognizing the real extent of

his power which is seven hundred grand which is not as good as he hoped and you see Joe Biggs showing up at a Trump rally as a like there is a whole new world right here. There's an untapped audience is a lot stronger than our seven hundred grand. Yeah. A lot of people love us for our weird bullshit that we're spitting. But if we throw in this stuff on top of it there into some other weird shit. I think that's where we get into it. He thinks he's throwing in the

Trump people on top of it as opposed to he's surrendering to the Trump people. I think that might be the beginning of that's fascinating. Yeah. That's really interesting. I'm not a hundred percent sure but the as I've been I mean at the fucking point we're at with this investigation who the goddamn hell knows what's going on. I know every single time I've been certain of something wrong. No there's no there's no. Yeah this is there's no logic to this a

couple days back when he told Trump he's a punk and shut your fat mouth. Right. Heard that I was like holy right. Fuck maybe and when I heard that I was like well maybe he never gets on the Trump train at all forgetting forgetting the world that we live in now. When I heard that at work I texted you I was like this investigation is so fucked up. Yeah I wanted to tell you that. I was like how the fuck did he say because of the constraints of the show. Now here's where shit gets

interesting. Yes the debate the Republican debate was on the 16th the second one the night of the 16th. Yeah and they did their mystery science theater debate thing on the 16th. Alex was sure was hilarious so much funny so fun so funny. Oh yeah then they really took down Manos the hands of fate not libertarian enough. So in the next day Alex gets to respond to the debate stuff and so now we're going to enter a little bit of the thunder down a little bit of debate recap. Here's

Alex Jones giving some of the highlights of last night's debate. Oh boy. That's coming up Senator Cruz says Planned Parenthood a criminal enterprise one of the best statements of the night. Big props to Senator. This is also based on all the Center for Medical Progress videos of course Ted Cruz is citing all those videos about selling baby parts. I've cut out so much of Alex complaining about that stuff because it's just so boring. We don't need to cover it over any

anytime anytime anybody references Cruz in the context of a phrase that doesn't end with lost his feet. I'm bummed but for the entire span that we've been covering. Yeah. Alex has been complaining about those Center for Medical Progress videos. He is talking about how legally legally legally they can take a baby out. They can take a baby out. Right. A live baby live baby. OK. They drug the woman up. What's the name. Hold on. They drug the woman up and as long as the baby is

touching the mother they can cut it up. They can cut it up and take the organs. But if the baby stops touching the mother no no no Dan no yeah no I refuse to even believe that even the most irrational of human beings would accept that as a reasonable response. Alex has been pitching that as a narrative that's crazy. Can't be true. So also a couple days before this before September 17. It's like it's like a home base argument. We're talking about. Yes. We're talking about home

base. We're talking about Red Rover situation. OK. All right. Putting up baby. All right. No that's fine. That's fine. That's Planned Parenthood's whole scam. Gotcha. Be that as it may. I think it was on the 15th of September 2015. The Congressional Investigation started into these videos and into Planned Parenthood which now because we're in the future we know they cleared them of any wrongdoing and found and all and found that those videos were deceitfully manipulated and

edited poorly and they have to appropriate and Alex are not appropriately. They've been sued. Well actually it's really fucked up since we've started talking about this like the court case was still in motion. Oh like just the last week. Yeah. A bunch of those charges. We have said in the past they have 15 felonies that are being put on them. Yeah. A bunch of those charges got dropped like last week. God damn yeah I know. Why do we live. I don't know. But that's it.

That's it. But a lot of like there wasn't a in this world. It was just why do we live. A lot of it comes down to technicalities and it just becomes like a. Is it worth prosecuting this further. Yeah you get you get you get somebody on tax evasion. You don't get them on murdering everybody you've ever known. All that aside every investigation into whether these videos are full of shit have shown they fill the shit. So anyway that's what Ted Cruz was talking about in

a presidential debate. Why are we and Alex loves it. So now he's into he's into fucking cruise cruise. Yeah. So here we go. There's Bush says 40 years ago he smoked marijuana. I admit it. Ooh big deal. You mean 40 years ago your family shipped cocaine in. That'd be a bigger admission. Donald Trump says Rand Paul shouldn't be on the stage and he's ugly. Trump you look pretty goofy to me. I agree. I mean I'll say it. Rand Paul's got curly hair which I don't think

looks goofy but I guess you could say it looks goofy from your perspective. You look like you have a dead blonde possum on your head and it used to be brown. Then it was chimpanzee colored and now it's blonde. So you get your hair bleached Trump to then turn it blonde. So if anybody looks like a freak it's you and I'm not up here attacking him but he can't sit there and make comments about how people look and then not expect to have it thrown back at him. Agree. I mean it's just

unbelievable. Good boy. It's unbelievable. Now then he goes on to say good things. Where he talks about the fact that this is a country where we speak English not Spanish. No. No Alex you had me. Not great. That's a that's a pretty solid burn on out on Trump though. Yeah. Not too bad. Yeah. It's super unexpected. Yeah. Oh man. Considering we know that three months after this point Trump is on Alex's show. Yeah. That's so fucked up. What is going on. I don't know. He hasn't said

any of these names. Is there any. Is there any. How do you not think there's some sort of back room negotiation going on right. Hear me out. Here's what I think. Oh fuck yes. I give it to me. Give it to me Dan. I think the payment hasn't cleared. You think the check hasn't cleared like he's endorsed it but he's still like why do you why do you think he's surprised to wake up and there's five hundred thousand in the. Okay. Why do you think he's disappointed. So he's mad because he hasn't

reached the million dollar goal yet and he thinks that the million dollar goal would have been met. I can't if the check it clear. I can't tell how that seems crazy. I can't tell how fucking much of what I'm trying to pitch. And I'm just trying to make this shit. I love it. So crazy. And I want you to be right. But that's too far. But it's nonsense. Even it like take all that because I don't think that's necessarily true. But like take all I mean the shit about Trump's hair is

absolutely hundred percent looks exactly like what he described take my nonsense out of it. The thought that he can be fuck you shut your mouth. You're a punk. You're fine. You stop talking about immigrants whatever. Oh you're mad at Rand Paul. I'm going to fucking attack you about your appearance. Yeah to being I fucking look can I suck your dick please. Yeah within three months is crazy. Yeah. There's no ground like well and the idea that once he becomes Trump's cheerleader he doesn't

think that all this still exists on the Internet. Well as we've established he has no concept of the past. Well the idea that like all that like stuff like every time we've gone through Alex Jones says this now in defense of we go back and we have a clip of him saying oh this is the same thing with fucking Trump. Everything Trump has ever said we have a tweet saying him of him saying the opposite or our new like they just don't even fucking care. They don't care. They don't care.

It's nobody. Nobody is actually holding them accountable which is the big issue. We can go on Twitter and we can see people going like here's what they said. Here's what they used to say but nobody's actually fucking doing anything. We're trying and I don't know what to do. We're trying. I wake up every day and I don't know what to do. Dad tell me what to do. I can't tell you but we're trying. We got a couple more clips to get there. Let's do this. We're on our 17. Yeah we're trying to do

a fundraiser. We're just bad at it. So I made a point of the fact that Alex has been very very pro Russia. Yes. And as we've seen or yeah they're there or at the very least pro strongman pro Putin. Yeah not necessarily pro Russia. No no that's not fair. Yeah pro Russia and pro Assad. He has been. He has been pro before this episode. He's been pro strongman. The things he said in this episode have been legitimately pro Russia pro Assad. You're right. I agree. This this next clip brings it

brings it home. They don't like saying we're fighting ISIS when they've got to resupply C-130s landing delivering them weapons on the hour in battle with Russian commandos who are on the right side. You think America the actual military likes being clearly on the bad side with Al Qaeda launching wars and then back home. We got to take your rights away because of Al Qaeda. Do you think anybody in the government likes being part of that. So Alex Jones in that clip essentially is saying that we

are on the wrong side of everything. Russia is on the right side of everything. But how what what is his justification for it. We have funded and created Al Qaeda and ISIS in order to destabilize Syria. And because of that we are on the wrong side of everything. Russia and Assad are really just trying to destroy the forces that we have brought in there for destabilization and you know that makes sense. I I just don't get that very

simplistic argument because there's because it's dumb in the same way that in the same way that there's a kernel of truth to it that is also such a willful misunderstanding of the way that the world works. It's it's hard to imagine totally. So Alex Jones is in favor of Russia and Assad. Great cool. But what's the motivation for him being in favor of Assad at this point. We already talked about it. We already talked about it. He's in favor of all of these Russian propaganda

outlets. He's he's he's yeah but I mean he's beholden to RT and Sputnik as information. So I mean yeah you make the good point of him as as information sources. But if you they put out stories about even know because because the things that you will say about Assad being oppressive to his people by murdering not being oppressive murdering right all that stuff. Yeah. I like how you yoddy all of that stuff. No no no. That's what I was going to get to as my I know I know I

know I just had to the Russian version of it that comes out in Sputnik and RT is that it is Western backed rebel forces that are faking these attacks. I didn't know that. Yeah. That is the narrative. That's their narrative. Yes. For real. Yes. And that's the narrative that Alex buys. So that's why we've talked about this on the show a bunch of times. Yeah. The Alex has these people on who are disreputable sources like Larry C. Johnson. Yeah. I can't remember that ambassador guy

who he had on who gives a clear financial interest. Yeah. Of course. Well fucking every if you're in Russia if you're Russian. Yeah. And you are on media of any sort. You probably have ties to the oligarchy with a couple exceptions. Yes. Absolutely. So that is the narrative that Alex is on board with. It seems dumb. Seems wild. But that that's that's what he pushes. It's every single thing. It's the Assad thing though that like I get arguing other Russian things but Assad

has so very clearly set out to murder his own people. Well here's where it seems it seems like such a sim it seems like a Hitler thing all over again. Like are you for Hitler murdering Jews or against. That's what Assad is to me. Well here's where Alex gets his leeway is that Obama said the red line is using gas using gas attacks on your people and then he didn't do shit which he think which Obama has clearly stated is one of his more proud moments of not sending the

world into World War three agreed. But Alex is and all of Russian media's argument about that is why the fuck would Assad do that if Obama said that that was a red line. Why would they do that. OK. That's a which which is compelling. That's an interesting angle. Yeah. I agree. It's compelling to a ton of people if you don't think Obama might have been bluffing. OK. So because the end result legitimately is World War three. So what what if we went in with Obama saw gassing of

yeah. So he makes his red line right. And if Obama knows that it happens. Yeah. And he doesn't get in there and fucking burn the shit to the ground then it must be that he also knows it's a false flag. Right. Well and also before that Putin had made very clear that he was not going to accept any of our aggression. Yeah. Exactly. So like it's it is a much more complicated chess game. Right. Alex is present. Right. All of it is just to serve this Russian propaganda message. I'm not

saying that he's an agent of Russia. That's not. No. But that's he's just dumb. That's not the. Yeah. Yeah. That's not the narrative. No. Why would you even need him to be an agent of Russia. No. If you have this kind of weird. It's such a it's such a man. Foreign policy is tough. I don't know. It's very complicated. I don't know if you know this or not. But global foreign policy. Very complicated. I'm a wonk. Anyway. Very complicated. So that all that aside. I want to be entirely

clear. We did. We've made a lot of mistakes in terms of arming rebels and stuff like that throughout the entirety of our history as a America. Yeah. Disagree. Right. You know me. I'm pro nationalism. That said Putin Assad are not good guys and what they're doing in Syria. Not good. Assad should be lit on fire. Yeah. Now. So right now all of you if you are a knowledge fighter and you are within let's say three feet of Assad and you can light him on fire. Please light him on fire. Just make him

hot for a little bit. Just burn him to death. No. If you've got like a if if he survives you're lighting him on fire lighting him on fire 10 more times and then meme it. So yeah like they and I see an end that memes you actually Alex just paid out twenty thousand dollars. All right. Kill us all paid out twenty thousand dollars. Just fucking up. What a shock. I'm done. What a shock. You know who won. Who won. Some guy that Alex Jones offered a job to. Jesus. I know about that. No it

was that guy. Well there are two guys. Two guys. Yeah. Alex Jones offered a job to the first and second place guys. But here was the fucking awesome. Like I wish I'm so I'm an idiot because I don't have the clip of this. Yeah. But it's so fucking hilarious. He's sitting there. He's like right. I I told Paul Joseph Watson he got to pick the winner and I don't think this is the winner. I think the winner is the Braveheart one. That that guy's great. You got a job. It just hit me up. You

got a job. Please. I want to get a job. A guy did a brave version of you know it's just braveheart. Yeah. Trump is yeah. And you got a job. No look. I told Paul Joseph Watson that he could choose the winner. You get the twenty thousand dollars. It's it's honor bound. What did Rapoport have to do to get a job. The winner of the fucking contest. Yeah. You started. Of course. So the winner was. Okay. Of course it's a movie. I'm going to give you three guesses. I'm going to give

you three guesses and now consider the mythology. Gladiator gladiator gladiator first gladiator. No. I'm going to. That's also my second gladiator. Consider the mythology of Info Wars. Okay. How he talks about false realities. Oh the Patriot. No. You got one more. It should be obvious. All other Mel Gibson movies. No. But it should be obvious. Come on. You got this. Info Wars. A scanner darkly like I don't know. I got a closer matrix. Oh come on. No that you can't even. That

was made like trans women. Yeah I know. You don't get to steal that. Oh they did. You don't get to. It's that scene where agent Smith agent Smiths are shooting at Neo down a hallway. He stops the bullets. Yeah. All the bullets are fake into. Oh fuck off. Yeah it's it's not Jesus Christ. But he paid twenty thousand dollars and has offered both of them jobs. Have we considered doing one of those. No we could come up with a better. We can't play me more fair. That's true. It's

nonsense. That's true. It is a fickle fly by night piece of bullshit. Yeah. Anyway we got to get these last two clips out. We've got to. Yeah. We're on our seven and a half. Jordan. Yes. The debate. Yes. Alex mentioned this a little bit earlier that Trump said some good things in the debate. Right. Now one of them was that people speak English here not Spanish. I didn't like that. I didn't like that. But said some other things that Alex did like. And they're not good. But I got to

say as a litmus test Donald Trump coming out against vaccines and saying I got a lot of friends and family. No. Damaged kids from this shows that he really cares about people. And he knows the system is going to come after him and he understands what's going on. And when the rubber meets the road he doesn't want to be involved in brain damaging tens of millions of children. Which is why he's removing health care. The vaccines are linked to increased cancer neurological

disorders autoimmune disorders. It says it on the stinking inserts and Ben Carson a medical doctor a brain surgeon. Not an epidemiologist not a virologist. He just sits there and says it's wonderful because he's a good guy as a doctor. So he believes everything they're doing must be wonderful. I like you making fun of his doctorate when you're also not a doctor. But that I in the debate I don't know how much debate Trump talked about how when he had kids he spaced out

the vaccines because he thought that like that's that's the argument that I've heard a bunch recently if they get that full it's too strong. It's a huge horse needle which isn't true at all. No. And then I don't want to put too fine a point on this and we're already four hours into this podcast but like I have looked into all of it and all of the anti-vax stuff. It's bullshit. It's all bullshit. It's absolute bullshit. It's been a real field. It's been bullshit since since the 1890s

since vaccines were created. One guy got a fucking thing happened to him within two weeks of a vaccine and he was like well it's vaccines. It is always bullshit. It is always fucking bullshit. I can't begin. I can't begin to deal with how much I hate you if you're an anti-vaxxer. Well all of it is sussed out legitimately by one sense that is one of the most important senses in terms of statistics and that is that correlation does not imply causation. If there is something

that there is a slight relation to you can't say just because there's a relation that x caused y. Yeah. Like you can't. Correlation does not equal causation is the bane of our existence. The fact that it is true and the fact that it is almost impossible for most people to recognize right is the most destructive force I don't know in my lifetime. One of the biggest cases about this and Alex Jones talks about you know like in the UK the guy who did studies about the dread Scott

case right now is this guy named Andrew Wakefield and he did some studies that were called into question and he got fired because it turned out he was taking a ton of money and lawyers that were edited and his license was revoked. There were lawyers who were trying to get a class action lawsuit going on behalf of people who hated vaccines. Yeah. And he got like $400,000 from those lawyers. And so all of his studies people who signed on to studies in the past not knowing that monetary

payment who were involved. They're like oh shit. Wait. Hold on a second. Are you saying that when you get in when you get money involved with health care bad things happened especially with studies. Especially when I can't believe it especially when conclusions are capitalism free market free market baby guns prosperity prosperity. Anyway, Alex is pretty thrilled with that anti vex message. But I honestly think that if I can if I can be totally clear. I think that no

matter what happened in that debate, Alex would find something to love about Trump. Yeah, you think so. Yeah, I think it's in his timeline. So you think this is the this is the money situation again. I do. So he he fixated on one thing that Trump said, like now I kind of want to go and I can I can I tell you why I would rather die. But I kind of want to go back and watch that debate to see how many things Trump said that he would have disagreed with versus how many he did agree with. I

have no idea. But I did I did go back and look into Trump's anti vex history. Yeah. And he got in some fucking hot water like three months before this for anti vex stuff. And he has an anti vex history that goes back to like the like 2005. Oh, so it's a full on birther kind of situation. It's been there from the beginning. This isn't news. This is just he said it at a debate. Right. And so Alex Jones's position is like, he's going to be attacked for this. But he had been attacked for it

already. He's pretending that this is some sort of like new wrinkle in his character, which it's not. I honestly, well, I mean, in the context of his campaign, has this been a thing? No, I don't think this has been he's been complaining about immigrants. Well, and in the same way that in his campaign, it hasn't been all about birtherism, you know, it hasn't, it hasn't been all about, hey, he didn't start that. He's Yeah. Yeah. So I think, I think that there's a little bit of

manipulation going on. Yeah, a little bit. And if Alex Jones like, I know in terms of our show, this is maybe four episodes back. But Alex Jones, when he made his pivot to stop talking shit about Trump, in terms of his mob ties, he said, I went back and I did deep research on him. Bullshit. I went and watched all his speeches. Okay. Okay. And if he had done that, he would already know that he has a history of being an anti vaccination guy. Right. He hasn't been not that for years.

Right. So this is not this shouldn't be news to him. Such a luxury for rich people to be anti vax. Such a luxury. Yeah. Oh, my kids go to all schools where everybody has been vaccinated. So I don't have to worry about it. And they're not pregnant. Also, this, this version of anti fax, where it's like, I spaced it out over six years. Fucking fuck you. Yeah, it's not great. Fuck you. I've established it, I think pretty consistently. But if you're anti vax, I hope you kill yourself

and then kill your children. That seems hard. No, that's a good order for that. Alright, well, we all know that our descendants are still with us. We got one more clip. Yes. And this is Alex talking more about Trump's anti vax position. Yeah. What I know about what he's going to be going through now for saying that. And looking at the look in his eye, I guarantee you Donald Trump doesn't like seeing his friends have brain damaged kids all around him. It's a large portion of people

have giggling, happy 18 month old baby boys. Their blood brain barrier is not strong as a girls. They going to get that last round of shots. Billy don't ever talk again. That's why a lot of members of Congress are against vaccines. No, because you know, you were your kid or your grandchildren take a shot never talk again. That'll that'll wake some people up. So I gotta say it. Rand Paul, Ted Cruz and Donald Trump, they are the three presidential contenders in my view from a

position of liberty. Now we have come to our own place. Yeah, we we've narrowed it down. And that's fucked up. Yeah, because he loves Rand Paul. He will very soon humiliate Ted Cruz. Yeah, and he will become the biggest blowjob machine for Donald Trump, which is funny. But but that is the one that is the one true joy I took out of that campaign is Ted Cruz turning into a little bitch. Jesus. This is like, I don't know how to say it. I was right.

My argument. So what you're saying is that we began this episode with Dan being right. And we ended it with Dan being right. I think I'm right. But not the way I expected is I predicted earlier that when Alex makes his pivot to Trump, it will be superficial. It'll be it'll be it'll be about it'll be about some issue that he already it's not like right. It's not new. It's not new. Yeah. And that is what he has sort of done. Now he's not the cheerleader yet. He's still just saying these

three guys are Liberty candidates. He's narrowed it down. Yeah, which is already fucked up enough as it is. Yeah, like that candidate. I I don't understand how it is that he professes to be libertarian and theoretically nonpartisan. And yet at the same time, every enemy is leftist. Yeah, every every fear comes from inclusion. Every fear comes from any kind of like, we should all be part of the same world. No, which is also his professed ideology in that the the globalists are

trying to keep us from becoming an inclusive society wants the inclusion, but he knows that it's a globalist plot. Like, he talks about he's talked about Sanders a couple times already and he's been like, this fucking ding dong is asshole. It's just which to me, it seems like he would wind up coming down between Sanders and no, and Rand Paul. That's what Jesse Ventura does. Exactly. Exactly. Ventura is like, hey, Sanders or Rand Paul. Yeah, that's what Ventura is. He has a philosophy.

He has an ideological consistency. And Alex doesn't believe really in anything. I honestly think what we're coming to and what I've learned from listening to these past like three weeks or two weeks that we've covered is he is a harsh opportunistic asshole. Yeah, he wants his money. He wants his money. And I think he realized when Joe, that's actually gonna be that when we write the screenplay for our documentary, it will be the tagline is Alex Jones. He wants

his money. Well, we predicted earlier that it would be a thing where it's like he's trying to get the Mercers or Trump to try and come in as big money donors. Right. And that may still be the case. But I think he started this million dollar campaign. It's not happening. In the meantime, we've recognized Joe pigs went out there and everyone wanted that shirt. Yeah, that is a market we can fucking tap into. How do we rationalize this? We rationalize it. There was a debate last night. He said

something anti vaccination that he said a hundred times already. Right. Now it's like, fuck, we soft kill babies. He's against that. All right. I'm in. Maybe that's so disappointing. I wanted to be some kind of nefarious thing. It's still nefarious. It's still pretty nefarious. That's a good point. It needs to me in order for us to to I don't like I don't know. I guess it's I guess it's more like we I feel like we need a scoop. You know, right? Like I feel like that'd be nice. We

need some kind of angle that nobody's ever touched before. But if it just winds up being weird shitty opportunism, it bums me out, right? I think you can take like, shouldn't there be some sort of Mercer money? Shouldn't there be some sort of like third party donor is like, all right, now I direct things. Well, it used to be the gold guy, but now it's me. Well, Ted Anderson is involved to this day. So that that he I mean, I mean, gold guys, gold guys are always going to be around. But I would say

that you should take soul listen knowing that no one has done as much listening to his show as we have. I don't take solace in that and all. Well, but like, we do have a scoop, whatever the case is. That's true. Even if it isn't that the Mercer's are the ones who did it, or Trump money. There's still a scoop here. Because he didn't fucking care about Trump two days before. And now he's, he's a fucking back on an anti vexer situation.

He's he's all over the place. And when he becomes the 1776 2.0 guy, it's not it's not just going to become it's not because of I think it's not because of things Trump said five years ago. Well, that's that's the thing that gets me is that it seems like right now he's going off of things Trump says. Like he's going off of things that Trump like Trump says something I like so I so I say nice things about them. Trump says something I

don't like so I don't say nice things about him. Trump says something I like, like that's the problem that I have. It should be something that is at least consistent. And until we get to that consistent point. It just seems like he's full of shit. Yeah, you're a dumb dumb. There's never going to be fair. There's never fair. No, that's fair. There's never. There's never going to be a point when Alex Jones is consistent. Fair. Yeah, he's a crazy. I don't know why but I have brain

damage. I still live in this world of like he did nice. I still live in the world of I believe people believe in things and Alex doesn't you know what you know and that's why you're right about that fucking meme is that they the the consistent argument is always people believe shit and Alex doesn't have a belief system. Nope. Alice has Alex has elves and then we move on. He's rogue. He's completely rogue. Yeah, as are all of those fucking alt right guys. It doesn't matter to them. They

move on in the same way that in that story that Tom Arnold told they got to get a bunch of publicity out of calling Tom Arnold a pussy right and then canceling the fight and no one on their side knows that they canceled the fight. Right. It just didn't happen. They can say he backed out. Yeah, he was involved with the coordination of it. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Absolutely. It doesn't matter. Perception is king. All of its bullshit. Everything is bullshit. Anyway, we'll be back with

the next stage of this investigation and other shit. I don't want to talk about the present much but unless the present turns out to be very interesting which so far to to this circumstance that is been very depressing. Well, it's just like he doesn't talk about the actual things that are happening in the administration. No, it's been boring. Yeah, it's just like, oh, scary moochies in. Hey, that's because Sean Spicer was a deep state agent. It would be really, it would be

really interesting though if he did get into like if he did have sources like Donald Trump Jr. Right. Who would get him inside information on how the dynamics of the administration was working. Which by the way, this week. Bananas this week as this episode comes out. Junior may have to show up in front of the Senate as well. Yeah. So we'll see. I mean, they're probably going. No, of course not. No, they're going to be pardoned. You get it. Yeah. But hey, if you don't want to be

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had not disrupted me so many times. No. Don't don't pretend this wasn't on purpose. Yeah. I was going to make this episode four hours no matter what happened. Look, it's the wine. It's the good times and it's the truth guys. Policy wonks. We love you all very much. I'll tell you there's somebody we don't love. God damn it. Damn it. Dan, you are ruining the ending bit. I was trying to help. I was trying to help you asshole. You asshole. I was trying to help. I was

trying to be like, oh, shit. There's there's an inroad to get to John Rapoport. Do you know? Do you know who doesn't help us? No, this one guy. What one guy? That was one guy. Who is he? Fuck. I ran into them. Okay, so is he younger or is he old? He's really old. Look, he's really old. I was at this fucking anti aids conference. I was at this conference. I'm already old. I'm already old. I hung out with him. He was really cool. We did shots of JMO. Yeah. It was

super cool. What about him? But at the end of the night, gotta be honest. Okay. Skip down on his tab. This is the best the bit has gone so far. Skip out on his tab. Again, none of like he said he was going to the bathroom. I was like, I don't know. I'll stick around here. What did you say about this guy? I said, fuck you John Rapoport. Andy and Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I

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