Knowledge Fight - #67: Protocols of Zion

Episode Date: July 27, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about the antisemitic plagiarized text The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and reads some passages from it that strangely mirror a lot of Alex Jones' views about "the Globalists."

Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple of dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. And thank God we are back on novelty beverages this week, because four hours and three bottles of wine later, I don't remember my own name. We did our best. It was a necessary break from reality,

perhaps, but let's not kid ourselves. We're much better with Fago. Yes, we are. We are drinking Fago cream soda in honor of the juggaloification of America. We are all juggalos now. I am become juggalo. Yeah, exactly. Destroyer of decency. This whole, this is all madness all the time. I don't even have time to look at the news without, it's insanity. Yeah, it's crazy. Everything has gone ass backwards, and we're living through the worst of it. What is it? What is this? The end times? What do we do? What do you even call this? It very well must be, quite frankly. Like, I don't know how else to look.

Like, I just, it's pointless to even talk about it. It's the end of America, at the very least. It's pointless to even bring up all the bullshit that keeps happening. Yeah. Right, right, right. Which I guess is kind of the point, you know? It is trying to make us all super. If we normalize it, then we stop fighting against it. But at the same time, it's like, what do you do short of starting to light shit on fire? Like the idea of waiting to the 2018 midterm seems insane to me.

We're all going to die before that. And it's not going to happen. Like, it's not going to be a fair election. No. And that has nothing to do necessarily with Russia. It's just not going to be a fair election anyway. It's over. Yeah. The processes of gerrymandering and, you know, cross check and that sort of shit. Absolutely.

It's all a disaster. Voter suppression. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Let's say we're done. Yeah. So, well guys, this has been great. Play the play the outro, Dan.

The only thing I think we can do, at least you and I, is we can donate to causes. We can call senators and hope that helps. That doesn't, that doesn't. I think it's been proven that calling senators is bullshit. Well, and we need to find out where they live and just shit on their lawn. If you have time to go for it, thousands of people shitting on Senator Orrin Hatch's lawn. If you have time, feel free to do that.

But if you don't, you know, help out however you can. Yeah. One of the ways we can help out is doing this show. Yeah. So. And you should call your senators and stuff. I agree. It's unsatisfying, but it is a good thing to do.

And if you could mail them your shit, that'd be great. There needs to be some more kind of, there needs to be some middle ground between the uselessness of tweeting and calling. What world is this? I don't know. And then the other extreme of like, Hey, there used to be a Capitol building.

Now it's rebel. You know, like, there's something in the middle. And I think it's shitting on people's lawns. That's the only idea I have right now. I sign off. Yeah. Again, if you have the time, it's a long trip to get down to the senator's house to shit on his yard.

Some of us have to go to work. Some of us, I don't know. How many representatives do we have here in Chicago? Quite a few, I think. All right. Let's find them. Shit on their yards. Shit on their yards.

Something you shouldn't shit on is our new donators. God, I love your transition. Love to give a shout out and a welcome aboard to our new donator, new policy wonk. What's up, Brian? I'm a policy wonk. Thank you for donating. Brian, welcome aboard.

We appreciate you very much. Also, I'd like to give a shout out to another new donator. What's up out there? Alex, how you doing? I'm a policy wonk. Congratulations on your new policy wonk status. Alex, we love you. You can tell everyone at the bars at house parties

that you, sir, are the most boring person in the world if you're bringing up the, as much as we want you to talk about it, don't go to a party. No, I'm not saying bring up our show at a party. Just bring up that you're a policy wonk. Oh yeah, you're a policy wonk. You can tell everybody, you know, all about the intricacies of bills.

I can't begin to describe how many times I've gotten laid just by being like, Hey, you know, I'm a policy wonk. Yeah, absolutely. It's a, it's a panty dropper as they say on the streets. So Jordan, today we're going to be doing a very special episode wherein I defend my assertion that Alex Jones is largely basing his worldview on the widely discredited forgery, the protocols of the elders of Zion.

Gotcha. So we're finally, we're finally proving what we believed at the start of this podcast. Yes. And I'm not the only person who thinks this, but it is kind of a, it's a bit of an assertion to make. And we've said it a number of times on the show and discussed it. And I want to, I don't want our listeners to go read that

book because it's a waste of your time and it's full of bullshit. Yeah. But I, at the same time, recognize that we're making these claims and not really thoroughly backing them up. And that's what I intend to do. As is our stated objective. Right.

It's kind of a bullshit thing for us to take, you know, six months or saying he loves the protocol. Yeah. He's secretly basing all this shit on that. Right. So we'll discuss that today. But first, a couple of weeks back, Jordan. Yes.

Alex Jones had a guest on his show by the name of Robert David Steele. Yes, I recall. He went on to claim that globalists have Mars colonies, with, which they take babies to, to be slaves, because they can't get back. And there's a Mars colony and they're stuck there and now they're enslaved by the rich Mars globalists.

Yeah. So. Which is a proven strategy for white people for a long time. Going to space. No, just taking people who can't get back and making them work for you. So that's wild. That claim that he made on Alex Jones' show is pretty wild.

And in the fallout from that, everybody started clowning on Alex. Everyone started clowning on his show. Like, Alex Jones thinks there's Mars bases, which he flatly denies, although we found clips from 2015 where he says that there are Mars bases. He totally believes there are Mars bases. But he started to say that the globalists set him up by

Robert Steele, that he came on to the show to discredit it. They're starting to be cracks within the Alex Jones, Robert Steele universe. Oh, that's a web of deception already there. So now what's really interesting is what also happened in the aftermath of this is that Robert David Steele went on Project Camelot. Yes.

Kerry Callahan to the rescue. We've got her name wrong every time we've said it. It's Kerry Cassidy. I realized that. You told me that it was Callahan. I fell in love with her. Now I find out it's all a lie. I don't even know this person.

Yeah. So what else is she hiding from me? I will tell you what this interview is all about on the other side of this clip. But I think it's important and interesting to hear how Robert Steele starts this interview. Okay. When I'm Kerry Cassidy from Project Camelot and I am here

with Robert Steele and we are doing a very unusual kind of Q&A here and I'm going to let Robert take over. So go ahead Robert. Well Kerry Cassidy let me say first I've been enormously impressed by everything you've done over your career. I have seen all of those who have slandered you as I have been slandered recently by the Zionists and I absolutely embrace and support everything you've done.

You made no sign of being surprised by Robert David Steele blaming the Zionists. What else is he going to do? I've seen the way that you Kerry Cassidy and I now have been attacked by the Zionists. Now is Cassidy usually being... Can I still call her Kerry Callahan? I don't mind.

Okay. Is she regularly attacked by Zionists? Has she ever been attacked by Zionists? I haven't listened to her enough to know where her head is on the whole thing. Okay. But I definitely think she's been attacked by a bunch of people who are like much like us think that the stuff that

she says is wacky bullshit. Right. So I think that's what's going on. So Zionists are her globalists. No. I don't think that's her cosmology. I think that's Robert Steele's. Okay.

And he's bringing it in to her and being like just like you have I'm in the same boat now because I went on Alex Jones's show and said some crazy shit. Right. Everybody's attacking me for it. It's the Zionists who are setting me up because I'm telling the truth. And my girl Kerry isn't going to question that because I don't

think she's ever questioned anything in her life. Anything. She is the most credulous person in the history of the world. So she is there to believe whatever you tell her what proceeds to happen is that Robert Steele interviews Kerry Cassidy about the secret space program when he interviews her.

Yes. And he does so in a fairly bullying manner. He's pretty rude to her and he's like I'm trying to do this. There's set guidelines and blah blah. It's terrible. But what ends up coming up and he signs off on is that the Nazis from Project Paperclip. They are the secret space program.

They abuse people. They create super soldiers in numbers of tens of thousands most likely. But there's no way to tell. So there's all this. There's all that sort of standard fare. I mean we talked about super soldiers on the last Project Camelot thing.

Which is a great one. One of the new revelations that we find is that Vietnam. There we go. Now I'm weighing. This was not about communism. OK. There were stargates. Wait.

Was Vietnam about communism. Wasn't it about the creeping North Vietnamese menace the communist menace. Yeah. But I mean it wasn't. I think it was more about. Yeah. I think it was more about rich people want and get rich.

Well look. We can we can peel back whatever layer you want. On some level the media told people it was about communism. Fair. So what the media wouldn't dare tell you is that the truth is that there were stargates. There are also stargates in Iraq. And that's why the Iraq war happened because our man Saddam

Hussein was going to allow in alien races through that that portal that he had. And we had to shut that down. That is classic Saddam. That is classic Saddam. Yeah. If there's one thing I know about autocratic dictators. They love letting in aliens.

Totally. Just like ours. Yeah. Trump loves letting in aliens. So we went rogue with this stargate power. And that's why we had to go and direct. That's why we were in Vietnam. Right.

And I was like what the fuck. What about Korea. Probably. She doesn't get too specific. I want to know. Now I just want the explanation for all of America's war. To be. Stargate.

Subressing stargates. Mostly it is 100 percent. OK. So I was like this is wild. I've got to look into this more. So I was like where does she where is she getting this that the Vietnam was about stargates. And I found that she did an interview with a soldier

who was in Vietnam. Who had been getting hypnotic regressions with a therapist. Not good. And he asserts that in Vietnam he was fighting giant beetle. So. All right. Do you know what their names are. Tets.

That's why it was called the Ted offensive. Oh my god. This makes so much sense. They brought the beetles in through the stargate. There was a mass hallucination. That was done to all of the United States. That black thing. Yeah.

Yeah. So they don't remember this only through hypnotic regression. Can you recall that the Tets species. Right. Were the giant beetles. Yeah. Were the backbone of that strategic maneuver. Uh huh.

Gotcha. The VC stands for vicious critters. Yeah. So. They really got to get a new one then. Suffice it to say. I was like wow. She's basing all of this on an interview that she did with this

Vietnam who has PTSD and I feel really bad for him. I don't want to make fun of him. He's doing the best he can. Oh he sounds great. But he has this hypnotherapist who's also in the interview. I start to get the sense that maybe this is about her. Oh is it. Maybe.

Oh hypnotherapist discovering giant beetles in Vietnam. You think it might be about her. Might be. Maybe she wants a little bit of publicity there. Yeah. So I was like Jesus Christ. This is this is the wildest shit. She's referencing this interview that she did in while she's

talking with Robert Steele. And Robert Steele the whole time is like you're the best. You're doing the best work. You're amazing. He believes all this shit. Yeah. He believes there are beetle beings in Vietnam. He believes that wars have been over stargates.

And Alex Jones has had him as a guest on his show. Repeatedly. This wasn't the first time he was on. He was talking about Mars basis. Yeah. Alex either doesn't know what his guests believe or doesn't care that this guy is certifiably nuts. Um do any of these people care.

I don't I don't I feel like I feel like steel. Well yeah but you're not one of those people. Fair. I feel like Steele doesn't actually believe in stargates or whatever it is he's talking about. But he's talking to Kerry Callahan. And she's telling him about stargates and he doesn't want he doesn't want to be the guy who's like no.

So they just agree way they just agree back and forth by like she says the shit she wants to say. Right. He says the shit he wants to say never the twain shall meet. There is some of that. That's probably a fair assessment. But anyway I just wanted to take this opportunity to say like your guests are dumb Alex.

Yeah. Your tax guys who come in and talk about tax being crimes like well yeah his dad embezzled a bunch of money and didn't pay taxes. He's been in prison for 20 years. Of course he thinks taxes are a crime. Right. The guy who comes in and talks about Mars base as you think it's a fucking setup.

He believes all this shit has been on project came a lot of bunch of times. What do you expect to happen. It's not a setup. Do some fucking legwork. Wesley Snipes should go on the show and be like taxes are evil. Yeah. Absolutely.

So that was a little bit of fun. Now Jordan let's get to the protocols. I wish I had a spooky sound effect. What do you know about these here protocols. I don't know anything. Nothing. So it'll just be the same. Yeah.

Like Alex Jones you don't know anything. Well that was the point. I guess so. So now we can do the now we can do the intro. Right. This is a podcast where Dan knows everything about the protocols of the elders of Zion. Not everything and Jordan doesn't know anything about the protocols

of the elders of Zion. There and we find our fun. Yeah. So what I would I intend to do on this episode if I had more time to plan what I would have done is I would have taken a bunch of passages from the protocols of the elders of Zion and a bunch of quotes from Alex Jones. Yes.

And I would have had you try and guess which was which. Oh that would be a fun game. And I don't think you would be able to tell a number of them apart. OK. Because I didn't have that kind of time I just have a bunch of passages that I found from reading protocols of elders of Zion. I've read it before in the past. But going through and I would I mean to prove is not that Alex

Jones has based his entire philosophy on the protocols. Right. But a lot of it. A lot of his ideas about the globalists come directly and spiritually from this text. So he's so you you believe that he has read it. Maybe. And that he has just most likely that he has just taken that

and changed it from Zion to globalists. And whenever they say gollum it's us. Gotcha. The the West. Right. Or yeah. I believe that that is possibly true. But another possibility is if you dig into a number of things

that he actually discusses that he finds like formative. A lot of those are inspired by the protocol. So it could just be that we need to shorten protocols of the other protocols. We're going to call it Pez. All right. All right. Oh yeah.

OK. So none dare call it a conspiracy as a Pez dispenser. Exactly. Yeah. That's what I was hoping for the moment. Yeah. And to a greater degree Alex Jones himself has become a massive Pez dispenser.

Gotcha. He's just shooting out these same ideas. Right. But what he's not doing is really recognizing the roots and where they come from. Gotcha. So in the Independence Day form of this Pez is the mothership that's pinging the signals to the small ships

around the earth. Sure. And then they're blowing shit up. Yes. I'd I suppose that's fair. Yeah. So I do want to also still give the caveat that I think that he has a lot of other insane sources that he gets stuff from

and this isn't fully explanatory of everything. But as we go along I think you'll see many, many very important pieces of his beliefs. Gotcha. So the protocols of the Elders of Zion first appeared in print in Russia in 1903. They were subsequently reprinted in a book in 1905 and then as a chapter in a book called The Great in the Small and the

Antichrist by Sergei Niles. And then immediately after that this chapter from his book becomes a pamphlet. OK. It's widely distributed. So Pez is really small. At this point. Yes.

OK. So it starts out really small. Very much so. And it will be expanded upon. Yes. Massively. Massively. As a pamphlet it gets widely distributed.

People start to read it and it starts to have an effect. Most people believe that the actual writing of the protocols of the Elders of Zion was done by Russian intelligence or by like Prussian intelligence. 1900. Yeah. So they believe that it was a concerted effort to demonize a population.

It was propaganda. Right. And if you really get deep into why people do that sort of thing it really goes back to the roots of anti-Semitism. Which I don't think this is the whole story. Well I believe that the roots of anti-Semitism are the murder of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Right.

Totally. No. The roots of anti-Semitism go back to the fact that Christians in the early days were unable to commit usury. They weren't able to loan money with interest. The only people who were able to do that were Jews. Were the Jews. And the Jews were a look down upon population early on

and they were not allowed certain jobs. They weren't allowed to be in certain industries. And so the only way that they could make money was to be loaned. Make loans to people. Yeah. And so they did that. Merchant of Venice style.

And they were wildly successful. They became super successful and everyone got mad. And they were like you got to get out of our country. You can't like we've tried to force you into this box and you succeeded in that box so fuck off. Yeah. You can't do that here. You got to go.

Our plan backfired horribly on us. Right. And that leads to basically. And the Christians couldn't do usury because of. The Bible. The Bible. Right. The thing that they profess to believe.

Gotcha. So they have a history of constantly getting kicked out of places. And when you're new coming into a new place you're always looked at as different. You're not looked at as the local rightful population of a place. So the entire history of the nomadic nature of Jews

you know throughout various nations that they go to make a lot of money through loans because that's what they have to do. Then they are kicked out. It's sort of a story that repeats. Yeah. Quite a bit over the history of Judaism. The initial prejudice against them only expands to

further prejudice. Right. Forcing them to leave where the cycle repeats a new. And is much more harshly reinforced. Of course. And so I mean that. Because they already have the word from the other place they got kicked out of don't trust these guys.

Right. There's some of that too. And so over the course of history there's just been a real black mark on the Jewish population that is unfair and usually like almost all the stuff you end up hearing about populations or about legendary figures are mythologized from from way back. Yeah.

Way back like a thousand fifteen hundred years ago. Uh huh. And so these this idea of these like bad bloodthirsty loan shark Jews and stuff like that is is wildly overstated and it just serves to create a demonized population. And so that the protocols in a lot of ways is a coming to a head of this thousand plus year history of

them succeeding against all odds and then getting thrown out of places. Yeah. So. So people still hate the Jews because of money. Mostly. Yeah. Yeah.

And I mean that is a large portion of what the protocols talk about too. Okay. Is they frame this money grubbiness that even feels dirty to say it but like. Yeah. That sort of mythologized nature and they turn it into like this is but their plan all along since way

back is all their plan. Okay. It's just their plan was for us to horribly segregate them and force them into a job thinking that it will never be successful or then they became successful and that was their plan all or they were horribly segregated against then once they figured out the thing they got segregated into was super successful.

They bided their time and have planned revenge since. Again. Oh that's right. The dirty goyum. That's smart. Well I mean. I think I think they have a good case for it.

That goes back to the like the entire thing that we talk about about people really projecting what they think they deserve. Yeah. So. This this trend just kept on going and this this pamphlet comes out becomes really popular and the thing about it is when asked about where it came

from like why did it get published every single story changes the years change when this was supposed to have happened the years change when people came into possession of the original manuscript the story of how it came to their hands like there's espionage and people breaking into the Jewish elders sanctum and stealing it. Of course.

Of course. There's all this stuff but it's now you know it's all again just mythologized garbage. Yeah. And the fact that the story like the Bible right and the fact that the stories keep changing just lends no credibility to anything like it is night. It's early 1900 but that's not a time that we

don't still have decent records. So. Yeah. So. Yeah. We have decent records from 300 BC. Right. You know.

So in 1920 through 1922 Henry Ford published 500 thousand copies of the Protocols of Elders of Zion. Oh that fucker. And he started to repackage some of it and publish them in articles and newspapers he owned with titles like The International Jew, The World's Foremost Problem.

Yeah. So he just started to use it as really potent anti-Semitic propaganda. Yes. Around this same time that he is publishing these it comes out that it's a forgery. It comes out that there they have found proof researchers have found proof that it is a complete

fraud and actually stolen from multiple pre-existing manuscripts. Gotcha. From documents that are very different in nature. Just ideas from them are packaged whole cloth. Some paragraphs are even just stolen from stuff. Just straight up plagiarized. Absolutely.

And so this comes out but that doesn't stop Henry Ford from continuing to push it as anti-Semitic propaganda. 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,640 Reality has never gotten in the way of propaganda. Right. As we all know. He even goes on to and Goebbels says about the

same thing later. He goes Henry Ford and Goebbels both have very similar perspectives on this shockingly. Who would guess. Yeah. That the actual text might be a forgery. But the ideas contained inside them are true. Right.

Right. Which is I mean there's no way around that. Yeah. There's no way to argue that. Yeah. Is how I I mean. It is interesting though because. It's like my bigotry is so strong that I don't

care if what I should be basing it on has been debunked. No it's a feeling. It's very. It's a feeling. It's very dangerous. That does make sense though. Why Nazism still has such a strong hold in the

United States because we started it. Sure. We started the Nazi we started the Nazi propaganda party. I mean the 500,000 copies of this bullshit that the Jews are trying to take over the world and they will end up killing us all. The all the Goy in the world that is happening

in America in 1920. Yeah. So great. God bless America. Anyways Hitler was very inspired by the protocols of the Elders of Zion. He believed in them to at least some extent at least definitely the point that they made.

Yeah. He would go on to write stuff that supported them and referred interestingly to Jews as vampires which is something that Alex Jones does a lot. Yeah. Not saying that necessarily proves anything but it is interesting to go back.

Globalists are vampires. Jews were vampires. Right. And for I mean Alex uses it in the context of child molesters a whole bunch. Right. But the way that Hitler uses it is within the they suck Goy nations dry.

Money and resources and all the like. Which I actually don't think Alex Jones would disagree with except if you change the phrasing. Yeah. From June to Globalist. Yeah. So like I said in the 20s and perhaps even a

little bit before that people started to discover these very similar things in other books. One of them the two main things that it's taken from are a book called Bia Reitz which is it's an 1868 novel by the anti-Semitic German novelist Hermann Gurch that the Gurch.

Yeah. It was from 1868. There was a chapter in it titled in the Jewish cemetery and it basically describes a bunch of really powerful Jewish people getting together in a cemetery and plotting nefarious deeds which is very very thematically similar to the protocols and a lot of it is

whole hog taken and repurposed. The other piece that is widely widely plagiarized within the protocols is a book called Conversations in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu which came out in 1864. It is basically exactly what the title says. It's yeah it's just a dialogue in hell where

Machiavelli argues in favor of despotism. He thinks that despotism is the way to go and people don't deserve their freedoms and Montesquieu argues on the side of liberalism and then you know people should be free and what have you. Who broke into hell and got that recording? Yeah that's a scoop.

That is a scoop. So here here are a couple just side by side comparisons to give you a sense of the level of plagiarism. Gotcha. This is from the Machiavelli Dialogue in Hell spoken by Machiavelli. Like the God Vishnu my press will have a

hundred arms and these arms will give their hands to all the different shades of opinion throughout the country. Now here's from the protocols. These newspapers like the Indian God Vishnu will be possessed of hundreds of hands. Each will be feeling the pulse of various public opinion.

Sounds like a bad book report. Absolutely. Yeah. That's like the way citing Vishnu specifically hundreds of hands. It's all like that's very clearly rip off. Yeah and if Machiavelli if Machiavelli is talking about Vishnu in hell we got a lot

more issues going on. Sure here's another one. Now this is Montesquieu speaking. Now I understand the figure of the God Vishnu. Again obsessed with Vishnu. You have a hundred arms like the Indian Idol and each of your fingers touches a spring. Here's from the protocols.

Our government will resemble the Hindu God Vishnu. Each of our hundred hands will hold one spring of the social machinery of state. I mean it's just very obvious words. Yeah and there's tons of these. There's tons of examples of just direct ripoffs and the dialogue in hell between

Machiavelli and Montesquieu is not about anti-Semitism. It's not doesn't have anything to do with the Jews has to do with which way is better to sort of take over a country. Got it. Despotism or liberalism. Yeah.

Which is the which is the preferred system. But so many of the ideas so many of the things are just repackaged repurposed and used to be anti-Semitic. To be complete bigots. Gotcha. So I want at this point I hope I don't know if I have but if you're interested you

can do a lot more digging into the specifics of it being a forgery but it is a fucking forgery. Yeah. It's been proven over and over again and anyone who doesn't believe that doesn't want to believe it and there's a reason because they feel right.

They feel they have the emotional hatred of Jews and they don't want to deal with reality in order to kind of correct that. I do feel a little weird about the fact that I have the protocols of the elders as I own on my Kindle. Yeah. Well your phone is a PES dispenser. So I will now begin our portion of the

analysis of the protocols of the elders as I own. OK. The I like the officious nature of your words. I don't know how to do this. I will now begin. Motion to commence.

Seconded. I have to second my own motion. Yeah. I was going to say I was going to do that at all. So the way that it's set up is as an address. It is some speaker in the tribunal group.

The learned elders of Zion have gathered for their meeting. They're supposed to have taken place I believe in 1901. And I mean if that's the case then you know 1860 whatever text predating and saying the exact same thing. Very much.

Very very dicey. But then even beyond that the year changed. I think what it was was they claimed that it was from 1900 and it turns out they met in 1901. And so the initial claim of when that came from could not have been true. But the elders of Zion do exist.

No. Or this meeting happened and there were elders. Jewish organizations meet. Well yeah. And Zionism was a thing back then like Theodore Hirstle has a book called The Jewish State that is also widely cited as

an inspiration for this. And it's basically just a text about how the Jews need their own state. Yeah. Because they because they keep getting kicked out of everywhere. Right. Because of bullshit like this.

Right. And say what you want about Zionism. I'm not fully on board with it. I think that Israel has a whole ton of problems. Oh boy do they. And that's an understatement. Oh boy do they.

And a reductive statement on my part. But at the same time the Zionism that existed in the early 1900s was not the same thing that we associate Zionism with now. Yeah. We associate Zionism now as a term with Jewish supremacy.

Like that is sort of the one to one mental thing that we make between those words. Back then Zionism largely was about we got. Hey we get kicked out of everywhere. We got to find a place to for us to be our own. Because we're not we're not nomadic.

We're forced into no mattery. Yeah. And so that book by Theodore Hirstle der Judenstadt came out in 1896. And here's just the conclusion of it. Man any anything in German that involves Jews really bums me out. Their Judenstadt.

Oh not good. Not good. I don't like hearing that. Yeah. So he says therefore I believe that a wondrous generation of Jews will spring into existence. The Maccabeans will rise again.

Let me repeat once more my opening words. The Jews who wish for a state will have it. We shall live at last as free men on our own soil and die peacefully in our own homes. The world will be freed by our liberty enriched by our wealth magnified by our greatness and whatever we attempt there to accomplish for our own welfare will

react powerfully and beneficially for the good of humanity. That's sort of an encapsulation of what this this Theodore Hirstle Zionism was in the late 1800s and into the early 1900s. And you could shorten it to I heart Maccabees.

The Maccabeans. I know I get you. Don't patronize me like that. A little dismissive. 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,080 Very disappointing. Very disappointing. So that is a good sort of aspiration.

At that point the Jewish people clearly did need some place to be. Absolutely. And whether that would have could have been America where they are just treated as equals everybody gets to be happy and they don't get run off. Sure that would be great.

Or their own country is great too. Yeah. At the same time all they're saying in like this sort of declaration is what anybody who's establishing a country says we deserve to be free. The world will benefit from our freedom. Yeah.

We will enrich humanity by whatever we are able to create. It's a positive message and we fucking have it in our declaration of independence which is true of everybody. The world will be a better place if you stop fucking with us and treat us like equals.

Right. But instead of taking that message people got really mad and really scared. And started fucking with them and not treating them like equals. Absolutely. And so this idea of the Jewish Council meeting comes to be in this Protocols

of the Elders of Zion. It's one person ostensibly giving a speech about what has happened over the last hundred years and the plans that they this Council has for the next hundred and what they're going to do to people and Jewish supremacy and blah blah blah.

Gotcha. Now I am just going to read you the things that I highlighted and I'll just let you respond to them. And also I recognize that in order for any of this to hit home you have to have listened to a fair amount of all of all of our podcast or just any Alex Jones.

Oh yeah. I apologize in advance. Listen to another episode. Here's the first one. This episode does seem like it's more for you. It's important though. Yeah.

No I agree with you that it's important but it's like you're you're doing this because it's like I need everybody to know that I'm not making this up. Exactly. Unlike Alex Jones we're going to go through the fucking documents. We are.

He's got 30 headlines on his desk right now ladies and gentlemen. Zero headlines. 30 headlines. He's got to get through all of them. Here's the first headline. Gotcha. It must be noted that men with bad

instincts are more in number than the good and therefore the best results in governing them are attained by violence and terrorization and not by academic discussions. That definitely sounds like how Alex Jones says the globalists think about us. Yeah I don't like that.

He says that they think that we're stupid and that the only way that they you know want to deal with us is through they're controlling us. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Through false flags.

Because we're you know because as as Alex Jones states in the past you know we're the patriots and we're far out numbered by the asleep and we're far destroyed by the globalists and so on. Gotcha. Here's another one the next next passage. Political freedom is an idea but not a fact.

This idea one must know how to apply whenever it appears necessary with this bait of an idea to attract the masses of the people to one's party for the purpose of crushing another who is an authority. This task is rendered easier if the opponent has himself been infected with

the idea of freedom so called liberalism and for the sake of an idea is willing to yield some of his power. It is precisely here that the triumph of our theory appears. The slackened reins of government are immediately by the law of life caught up and gathered together by a new hand

because the blind might of the nation cannot for one single day exist without guidance and the new authority merely fits into the place of the old already weakened by liberalism. That sounds familiar. Sounds very familiar. I mean I don't know if Alex could use

most of those words in their proper context. Perhaps not but I mean look at it. He has his concept. That's like Alex reading Shakespeare. Like it would not be good. It would not go well. Well I mean his conception largely is

that liberalism is a trick in order to get us to socialism which leads to communism which leads to tyranny. Exactly. Or despotism if you want to use these more familiar words to today's episode. And that's just boom. That's what that's saying.

Yeah. You're already infected with liberty. This idea of liberalism. And because of that you're willing to let go of some of your freedoms. You're willing to let go of some of the control of the government. And these shady globalists behind the

scenes are just going to take over the slack that whatever slack you give they're going to take it. Therefore every game is a zero sum game. Yeah. You lose a little you lose an inch to the globalist they're going to take two. Yeah.

Yeah. Exactly. Wow. That sucks. Yeah. I don't like these Zionists right now. No they're pretty bad. They're not good.

They're pretty bad. Good thing they're not real. So in this next in this next piece. Like you're like you're a band like guys in this next in this next song. I got my set list together. Yeah. This one.

Ladies and gentlemen this one is this one's about my dog when my when my dog died. This one's off my third album how I felt about that. It is indispensable for our purpose that wars so far as possible should not result in territorial gains. War will thus be brought on an economic ground where the nations will not fail to perceive

in the assistance we give the strength of our predominance and this state of things will put both sides at the mercy of our international agent or which possesses millions of eyes over it ever on the watch and unhampered by any limitations whatsoever. Our international rights will then wipe out national rights in the proper sense of right.

Oh OK. So the Zionists right in in this circumstance are not even really interested in like like there is the idea of a nation but their main goal is to be everywhere. Their main goal is to be international. So by spreading their money around people become dependent upon them and then their power over is

over all nations is supreme. Yeah. Oh OK. So they they want to go global. They want to be global. And what they're saying there too is that you know wars can't like you can't allow countries to take over other countries.

Like that's just going to be a mess. You don't want to do that. Yeah you don't need territory. Make sure that everything that is done is strictly financial which Alex Jones talks all the time about globalists controlling the money system. Of course.

And what have you playing governments against each other in whenever they have wars. And it says right there. And they're getting rid of sovereignty which is exactly what this this Pez is saying. Our international rights will then wipe out national rights. Yes.

Everything will be on a international global level as opposed to your own national. Yeah concerns. So I swear if these guys took just what we've said so far to like a bank to get a loan for a small business startup they would get it so fast. This is such a great plan.

It's not a bad plan. No. But that's the other thing that really means it's impossible but it's a great plan. Analysts who have gone over this also basically. I mean it's kind of the same criticism that I would make of Alex Jones is like wide swaths of generalities generalizations truisms

and stuff like that like liberty is good. Alex will scream stuff like that. Like I believe in humanity. It's like that doesn't really mean anything. No specifics. And in the same way you go through this entire book. I hesitate to call it a book.

But you go through it and what you see is a lot of stuff that's like. Oh yeah. Okay. Whatever. That makes sense. Because there is stuff about like the police. We got to militarize the police and stuff like

that. And it's like well yeah that's. Ah fuck the police. Yeah. But I mean there's stuff like that. It's like this state will be in much more control if the police if there's more police. It's like yeah that's that's true.

Theoretically. Well yeah right. It's it's it's it seems like axiomatic. It's just yeah equals a yeah great. Here's another passage. In the hands of the states today there's a great force that creates the movement of thought in the people.

And that is the press. The part who I bet they're bad. The part played by the press is to keep pointing our requirements supposed to be indispensable to give voice to the complaints of the people to express and to create discontent. Oh so the press is bad.

Press is bad. Press is bad and they're going out of their way to disseminate false information to make everybody feel bad. Yes because in this conception the elders Zion have taken over the press and in Alex Jones's conception the globalists have plants and basically control all of

the mainstream media the MSM. Oh I didn't know that the elders took over the press in this. Through the press we have gained the power of influence while remaining ourselves in the shade. Thanks to the press we have got the gold in our hands.

Notwithstanding that we have had to gather it out of the oceans of blood and tears. It's a descriptive sentence. Who's blood and tears? Our blood and tears? The elders that let us? The humans. Yeah yeah.

The goyum. That is absolutely evidence that it's an intelligence service working for a government because what else would a government especially an autocratic government want other than the demonization of the free press? They want control over the dissemination

of information. Right. It's a good thing that we've inoculated ourselves against that. Sure never happened. Yeah. Never happened here. It can't happen anymore.

We're past it. But more to the point I hope at this point you're starting to see many many shades of the fairly important pieces of Alex Jones' world philosophy. Yeah. And these globalists that he's super afraid of.

Dude I'll be god damned if I don't see many shades of the fucking congress we have right now. Well I think that that is kind of an issue. Yeah I think there's a lot of these dudes. Well because Alex Jones is very much not upfront about a lot of the things that underlie his belief in the globalists

he is given somewhat of a pass and whenever he can he gets accused of being anti-Semitic or anything like that he gets to fall back and be like well that's not what I'm talking about you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. It's a globalist. Right and because he has that sort of

cushion between him and the truth it's easy for other people who are conservative minded to be tricked and not realize that what underlies his beliefs is massive anti-Semitic propaganda. It's the same. It's the same thing as like it doesn't

matter you know everybody bleeds red blood but black people are far scarier and it's fine if cops kill them like that kind of. Right and now that we have people who are very much in the same ilk as Alex Jones who are gaining intense prominence in conservative media you

have Alex Jones you have drudge you have bright bar you have world net daily. You have all these sites that put out very similar sort of content and reinforce each other and back up the globalist narrative. You end up having a conservative world

that is largely accidentally or intentionally I'm not entirely sure based on a lot of this. Yeah and I don't know if I don't it's not that I don't think anyone knows because a lot of people do know. A lot of smart people know. We would hope.

But I don't know if the people who are under the sway of this stuff and believe this stuff really recognize the roots of it and to me that's kind of scary because now you have people who are you know motivated by things that are anti-Semitic in origin being able to fight for the same goal without

admitting that well what I'm afraid of is these Jew bankers. Well I don't think it's that I think I think from what I've heard so far what we're dealing with is just a not not anti-Semitic but white nationalist. So it's it's almost the reverse instead of instead of a nation's intelligence

service disseminating information on this really small group of people in order to I'm assuming steal all their money whenever they're kicked out something along those lines instead it's reversed. So now a small group of white people are using these same things to demonize

everybody that's not white people. Sure I mean that's why you can exchange you know Jew for globalist because you're not going after Jews you're going after Jews and black people and Muslims and whomever you're going after everybody who's not white. Yeah that's fair let's go back to the

text. So this next part is about how they you know Alex Jones likes to talk about how when the globalist will create such strife in such a negative position that they will reveal themselves as the savior and will beg for their help and will fall under their spell.

Right we have to we have to give consent. Well no it's the problem reaction solution they create a terrible living situation that's totally awful and then they give us the solution and we take it. We bite it's the Hegelian dialect and here we go.

Nowadays with the destruction of the aristocracy the people have fallen into the grips of merciless money grinding scoundrels who have laid a pitiless and cruel yoke upon the necks of the workers. We appear on the scene as alleged saviors of the worker from this

oppression when we propose to him to enter the ranks of our fighting forces socialists anarchists communists to whom we always give support in accordance with the alleged brotherly rule of the solidarity of all humanity of our social masonry the aristocracy which enjoyed the law enjoyed by law the

labor of the workers was interested in seeing that the workers were well fed hungry and strong we are interested in just the opposite in the diminution the killing out of the goyam our power is in the chronic shortness of food and physical weakness of the worker because by all this by all that this implies he

has made a slave of our will and he will not find in his own authorities either the strength or energy to set against our will hunger creates the right of capital to rule the worker more surely than it was given the by the aristocracy by the legal authority of kings so in there saying that because there are no

kings anymore and there's all this capitalism people are being the workers are being taken advantage of and they're being enslaved essentially and we will show ourselves to be the solution to that problem by only to further enslave by agitating with socialists and communists but that will all be just a

goof and the end result the end result will be killing off all the goyam in alex jones's conception killing off all the people who aren't globalists why would you say this in a meeting why would you write this down that's the other problem this is a big issue if that is your plan right

don't record it right you know seems unwise talking talking meeting a little meeting room you know it's not ransom space it's not like everybody had iphones back then yeah recorded this so they would have had to be writing so fast it's patently absurd the entire idea of it but in there you have two

very big pieces of alex jones's beliefs about the globalists and that they are going to introduce socialism as a way to trick downtrodden people who really just need prosperity that's really all they need uh they're going to trick them into this control state and that the globalists

want to kill you and your family he says it all the time and you know it's just here we will we'll trick them and then we're our end goal is to kill off all of them the other big piece of his thing is that uh he always talks about how the globalists want to make you weak because if you're weak you can't

fight back against them so in alex jones's conception because i guess you know there weren't tons of vaccines and shit back in 1900 certainly not the prevalence that we have now right they don't use the specifics of vaccines and putting stuff in the food yeah but that is why alex

jones is willing to believe those narratives even though the facts don't back them up because it reinforces this sort of an idea that comes from the protocols of the elders of zion yeah this idea that the globalists want to keep us weak in order to not be able to fight back and so they soft kill us with

vaccines by putting stuff in the water by trying to kill masculinity it's all in some way is now if i'm if i'm the elders of zion mm-hmm all right writing back then mm-hmm i would throw in give everybody smallpox sure no vaccines why even bought this is that this is a

terrible master plan totally this is a bad way to go weaponized smallpox are we fucking did it we already fucking did it's true that way before them yeah we could have we could have destroyed all this shit but there might be too much backlash to the uh the zionists if that's the case because

they can't control the smallpox once it gets going see now here's a very essential while they gotta invent vaccines here's an aside here's an essential piece of this master plan uh-huh and that is that when it goes down people who masterminded it will

be safe there we go the hatred this hatred will uh be further magnified by the effects of an economic crisis which will stop dealing on the exchanges and bring industry to a standstill we shall create by all the secret subterranean

methods open to us and with the aid of gold which is all in our hands a universal economic crisis whereby we shall throw upon the streets whole mobs of workers simultaneously in all the countries of europe these mobs will rush delightedly to shed the blood of those whom in the

simplicity of their ignorance they have envied from their cradles and whose property they will then be able to loot ours they will not touch because the moment of attack will be known to us we shall take measures to protect our own all right now uh we have a new guest on he's gonna you know he's gonna talk to

us about the coming financial collapse which i've told you about for months now it's coming in late september and we got him coming on he's gonna listen guys buy gold you're gonna need gold it's gonna go up to fifty thousand dollars an hour do you see so much of him in that oh absolutely the

globalists have orchestrated this global economic collapse the gold importance yep and then at the end there talking about how the zionists are going to be safe because they know when it's going to happen because they're doing it right alex jones talks all the time about how the globalists are fleeing

so talks about how they're heading to armored redoubts of course all the fucking time because they know when the attack is going to happen because they did it yeah right now let me ask you a question i love questions in the pes uh do they ever stop to sell any kind of boner pills ever at any point in time

are they like okay now we know our master plan we know what's going to happen we know how it's going to go down but listen we have an Easter sale so exactly that's why i loved it so much how did you miss it the first time god damn it i thought that was great because

alex jones with his specials it's less important that they're happening and more important that he's extended they are always that's always what happens yeah so there though there we go i mean i'm not nearly done but i was going to say there's no way you're done so ever since that time we have been leading the

peoples from one disenchantment to another so that in the end they should turn also from us in favor of the king despot of the blood of zion whom we are preparing for the world so that's basically again just the same narrative that we're making people miserable in order that eventually

they'll uh fall right into our trap uh-huh uh the art of directing masses and individuals by means of cleverly manipulated theory and verbiage by regulations of life in common and all sorts of other quirks in all which the goyim understand nothing belongs

likewise to the specialists of our administrative brain reared on analysis observation and decades of fine calculation in this species of skill we have no rivals any more than we have in the drawing up of plans of political actions and solidarity that one's less important that is such it's it drives me

insane it drives me insane because that passage could have written could have been written about the people who are distributing this thing right that's exactly what they're saying that's exactly what they're doing like that might as well have been that intelligence offer being like check this shit i'm

just going to tell them what we're doing to them i don't even care they're going to believe it less or magic they're going to believe the whole thing i don't even care yeah it it is it is pretty wild when you when you step back to realize just how much of this is completely ripped off and

the fact that it is an entire fraud uh and you start to think about and realize the reasons for the fraud it just it but it does become very bizarre you know just thinking about how much of like you're saying that these people are using propaganda but you're doing that within a propaganda text yeah it's

just very it's amazing yeah it's it's layers upon layers now perhaps let's let's take it one let's let's inception this we're going to go one more level deep i'm listening all righty maybe this actually is propaganda by the elders of zion right that they gave to the intelligence communities to then give

to people make about the elders of zion then we would think that the elders of zion aren't even fucking real but the plan is there they're still about to implement it we're just the idiots here we're the ones who are getting uh fooled make no mistake this argument is made on storm front oh god damn it yeah

that's great yeah yeah here's here's another passage uh the intensification of armaments armored redoubts and the increase of police forces are all essential for the completion of our aforementioned plans what we have to get at is that there should be in all of the states all the world besides ourselves only the masses of the

proletariat a few millionaires devoted to our interest police and soldiers george soros soldiers do they have a few millionaires oh they didn't have billionaires back then certainly didn't so they got george soros right millionaires is george soros he gets alive at this time he gets name-checked this is actually george

soros giving a speech to the other elders of zion right might as well be yeah you guys age regression technology as we know that's true he gets in those that's true they get back in there yeah then he time travels back to the future so in there i mean alex jones is super afraid of the idea that the globalists

are going to bring out a police state uh and i mean it's right here it's in their goals the goals they just want to create a state with uh downtrodden people police and a few millionaires who get to live freely huh throughout all of that sounds like it's already happened

throughout all europe too late on that one throughout all europe and by means of relations with europe and other continents also we must create ferments discords and hostility mm-hmm so yeah it's just they're gonna fuck around everybody up all around the world

uh we this is the also invented deaf punk alex jones has a lot of ideas about like education and the fact that you're being fooled all the time uh here's a passage we have fooled bemused and corrupted the youth of the goyum by rearing them in principles and theories which are known to us to be false although it is that

they have it is in that that they have been inculcated so the zionists or the globalists have a bunch of things that are complete lies that they you know trick you into believing what as you're growing up climate change yeah uh gay rights yeah these sorts of design is called their

children purple penguins is that a thing they must they have to so it's all they don't like gender it's all these things that they know to be bullshit but they're fucking with your head by getting you to think that they're real right which i mean that's very alex this is all fucking with my head why is

that uh i just i just don't like the the i feel like i'm being attacked by two people now i feel like i'm being attacked by alex jones believing this basic shit and now you reading this shit to me i've got two people that i'm fighting in my brain right now well i think i i hate this and i hate it too but i think

it's important to look at it because it is a very important piece of his worldview and without it i don't think we can have a fully robust picture of what it is that's behind alex jones and and what what bullshit he spews yeah and so when you when you have these these things from the protocols of the elders of zion

it's not that he's necessarily preaching them whole cloth but they are entirely in line with his beliefs about the globalists and when you look at the stories that he believes and the things that he pitches the things that are parts of his bullshit narrative that don't stand up to the scrutiny of facts

a lot of it can be traced back to this because like you said with the purple penguin stuff if you look at the facts of that it's a benign situation yeah it's nothing it's not something that even a conservative person necessarily should be screaming about maybe making fun of i could see rush making fun of it

yeah or something like that but the idea that you'd be actually angry about it and think it means something you have to believe that these globalists are doing it specifically to fuck with people's minds and that has its roots right here now you don't think it could have been you don't think he okay

maybe so god damn it i want i i don't know if it's like it's like if two comics come up with the same premise parallel thinking yeah parallel thinking it do you do you think there's a chance of that or because this sounds really damning it's i don't think it's parallel thinking because there's too

much overlap yeah it's it you know i don't want to call alex a hack because that's you know that's a tiny anytime he tries with comedy he's definitely hacky oh Jesus that go back to our third episode second i don't know anyway yeah yeah he does try comedy quite a bit but i meant the stand-up comedy

oh yeah i remember that it's episode two guys go back in the archives um i am not willing to believe parallel thinking but what i am willing to believe is uh like parallel sourcing like i said with books that he buys into and narratives that he believes those are also heavily based on protocols right like like how

even if you haven't seen Casablanca you know the base like it's so part of our cultural uh communicate or so part of our zeitgeist that you still kind of know what happens in Casablanca or like a comedy example if you live in Chicago and you've seen a bunch of Chicago comedians and you've never seen Kyle

Kanane you've seen Kyle Kanane yeah do you know what i'm saying yeah no you haven't seen you haven't seen Kyle Kanane people's influences show yeah their product yeah and people who are deeply inspired by Kyle Kanane often have a little bit of Kanane in them and you can see that and the same way Mitch

Hedberg sure yeah totally and there's a lot of people who have a lot of the protocols in them and those are a lot of Mitch Hedberg right appreciate you trying to bring fun to this i'm doing my best this structure is difficult without clips but be that as it may

they're talking about how they want to take over the world here in this next passage to secure this we must have everybody vote without distinction of classes and qualifications democracy in order to establish an absolute majority which cannot be got from the educated

property classes in this way by inculcating in a sense of self importance we shall destroy among the goyim the importance of the family and its educational value alex always talks about how the globalists want to destroy your family they hate the family they hate the

family they hate it they hate it they want to get rid of it everybody should be raised by everybody yeah communities yeah exactly and what they're saying there is in order to yeah you're you hit the nail on the head and make a democracy and then everybody uh you know is voting equally everybody

uh is equivalent you create communities uh and you destroy uh people's and you can do this in a democracy because most people are asleep most people are just going to go along in that majority the minority are that are awake like uh like ford and hitler the ones who are going to

fight against it yep oh boy so when we introduced i mean fuck hitler was democratically elected true so hitler is the hitler is also an elder of zion could be yeah alex might believe that he said he is set up he is said a lot of nice things about hitler but he's a bad guy he's a bad guy he was

set up but he was bad don't get it wrong listen hitler had some good ideas so when we introduced into the state organism the poison of liberalism its whole political complexion underwent a change states have been seized with a mortal illness blood poisoning all that remains

is to await the end of their death agony liberalism produced constitutional states which took the place of what was the only safeguard of the goyim namely despotism but this this has to like how is it how is it that these people like the only place this kind of shit can come

from is a an authoritarian dictatorship like the only people who would absolutely advocate for despotism are despots well that's what like nobody nobody that's contained within the pretense of the fact that they you know the zionists want to create a global despotism

they wanted to have a despotic rule all over the the entire world yeah but that doesn't make any sense of course why wouldn't you why wouldn't you just consolidate the already despotism that you have especially if we're talking about uh a prussian uh or or uh that kind of

situation those people aren't the people who would give this information out who would fight against liberalism are the people already in power true so why would you think that people out of power would plot this liberalism in order to then take their own despotism

that's not how you fight against a despot because that's what they're ostensibly doing they're saying that we're not the despots no but they're also sort of making the argument that despotism is in the past and that was the only thing that was keeping the goyim the sheep safe was that there was a despot in charge and

they couldn't take them out but now since liberalism has been introduced they used liberalism to take down those despots and now they can come in and come over the top because they couldn't do that before when the despot was there

right so they're so they're okay it's actually almost making the argument that a dictatorship is the only way to stop yeah like i said which makes sense with alex jones' interest in trump

yeah yeah the only way well i mean fuck with with bannon's interest in tearing everything down right and only then can something be rebuilt

like that's the same shit right there in our last episode we did reveal that alex jones is okay with some tyranny so great great great great you know you know how so you know how tyranny always uh always gives it gives up like tyranny is well known for only being

some tyranny never goes too far you know how tyranny is never in absolutes i'm cool with some tyranny is like saying i'm cool with all tyranny that's just how that works so you might be thinking how much control do these here zionists have over the

political process um god damn it if it's not a hundred percent in the near future we shall establish the responsibility of presidents we shall arrange elections uh in favor of such presidents as have in their past some dark undiscovered stain

some Panama oh shit some Panama pedophile network then they will be trustworthy agents for the accomplishment of our plans out of the fear of revelations and from the natural desire of everyone

who has attained power namely the retention of privileges advantage and honor connected with the office of the president mm-hmm do who now alex jones believes legitimately that globalism is kept in place

by blackmail mostly pedophile blackmail yeah but also some other blackmail sure there's other stuff drug running one have you but yeah a lot of child murder and pedophiles that's the narrative he spends these days yeah

like Benghazi the globalists just again change the names yeah the the globalists arrange elections in favor of such presidents as having their past some dark undiscovered stain

so stupid so stupid all like so much of it is here so much of it is in this stupid book that's that's crazy right and how is it how is it that a 100 year old

pamphlet so taken over because there was a thousand years of hating Jews before that oh that's true there's so much it's a coiled spring already yeah

and at that point this is just like you want to hate them and now we've been given fraudulent proof that you should hate them yeah that's essentially what's going on guys and that's stop

and that's hating the Jews and that's why it has lingered for a hundred and something years until Alex Jones gets on the air yeah and then really makes mainstream yeah

really makes it mainstream because there were other people who were talking about like the ideas of the globalists and and things like that but when you look at the history of it back in the like I don't know if you go back to like the

fifties and sixties the talks of of this sort were about Jew bankers yeah and stuff like that it wasn't as couched in euphemism about the globalist yeah and stuff like that

well like the like CLAB 2021 has the the five Jew bankers as uh yeah yeah it's a joke for a reason yeah but unfortunately it ain't a joke

it ain't a joke to these people nope um so here here we go uh here's another passage by such measure we shall obtain the power of destroying little by little

step by step all that the outset when we uh enter our rights we are compelled to introduce into the constitutions of states to prepare for the transition to an imperceptible abolition of every kind of constitution

and then the time has come to turn every form of government into our despotism so again it's just reinforcing the idea that uh you know it is heading to a one world despotic government you're shaking your head

I'm just I'm just thinking that isn't it baffling it is it is baffling like like how it how do you read this and not think oh the best plan is to just let these guys pretend

and have fun like how if but these people aren't real I know but that's what I'm saying even if these people are real and you're reading pez my my thought is like uh that's such a terrible plan

try it go to town it's going to fail just on its own inertia if you have this many no no no no no if you have this many move if you have all the gold

moving parts it's never gonna work they have all the gold they've infiltrated the media they've eroded the very idea of education so all of the people are dumb you have a dumb down population

that's shackled intentionally by the bonds of work a day slavery and uh yeah but but that's just Scientology somewhat that's exactly what Scientology is well I mean in a lot of ways the idea of this oh man

I bet Elron Hubbard has read the protocols of the Elders of Zion for sure that was a decent chance he's still alive I mean the idea of the globalists and a lot of this stuff is essentially what it does become

is not like a philosophy it is a religion yeah to a lot of people like that's why Alex Jones fakes crying on air and yeah has his weird version of Christianity that's not based on the bible

like it is a religion to him it's a cult absolutely this is not like it's not real world it's very very dangerous do you think so

so this kind of makes me feel like the way that we should be handling this bullshit the way that we should be handling all of this bullshit is the same way that we handle cults is the same

like well so if I hope on some level right ambivalent Alex Jones listeners might be able to come and find our show and be like oh

all right I hope yeah I don't think that's necessarily ever going to be the case I think we should just start by finding regular listeners sure

we have plenty of it thank you for listening yes thank you very much be that as it may what I'm saying is like I think that the only way really to do battle with cults necessarily is deprogramming

and one of the ways you can deprogram is by making fun of the ideas of the cult you can research and bring to light why the cult is full of shit or you can just hope for people

like like you or I escaping that's really what it well yeah and exactly and we I have escaped a cult literally yeah I escaped a weird Christianity but it wasn't

it wasn't the same as what you yeah had to fucking deal with yeah but be that as it may you got to a certain age and you didn't fall in with the cult anymore no

so I mean I don't want it I don't want you to I don't want to be like Jordan why don't you tell the story but well guys look up the no name fellowship you can find them online they have

they were on a watch list and because of what they believed in a kid died but you you didn't have some like podcast about how stupid the cult was no I did not I did not

I don't know what I'm getting at I would have loved a podcast about how stupid the cult was well that's what we that's what we hope to offer for a dead kid oh boy lovely

that's what we hope to offer to the info warriors yeah anyway back to the protocol Jordan it's cool so this is some more liberal that was a nice little commercial break

right there sure this is some nice liberal bashing the part played by the liberals utopian dreamers will be finally played out when our government is acknowledged till such time

they will continue to do us good service therefore we shall continue to direct their minds to all sorts of vain conceptions of fantastic theories new and apparently progressive for have not have we not with complete success turned the brainless heads of the goyim

with progress till uh there is not among the goyim one mind able to perceive that under this word lies a departure from truth in all cases where it is not a question of

material inventions like the fallacious idea serves to obscure truth so that none may know it except us the chosen of god it's gardening guardians oh that's that's magical technology

well that's med beds right there possibly but also the idea contained therein is like these vain conceptions and fantastic theories new and apparently progressive that's just alex jones talking about you know hey they're trying to confuse you with trans stuff

yeah and they're like that they're just trying to change the language they're trying to get you to accept weird stuff that's just right here that's what liberal progressiveness is it's just a plot on the part of the

globalists or zionists depending on which book you want to read people just really hate people's lives getting better that's that's what you read in all of this stuff is people get really angry whenever like

like alex jones's idea of prosperity is bad for everyone the hating the jews is bad for everyone we don't have healthcare because of the protocols of the elders of zion somewhat it's bad for every stop hating people

hating black people has done the same thing if we didn't have so much hate for these fucking people and i'm not i don't know how that sentence scans it's fine if we didn't have all of this hate

you wouldn't have you wouldn't have an insurance company we'd have single payer right so stop hating people well especially when you distrust

like the idea of distrusting progress is a real dangerous kernel to have in your worldview because what's the alternative there's regress or there's stagnation conservatism right

yeah the only two things you really can do is move backwards or stay the same as a civilization if and you can't stay the same no it's not a life isn't static that's not a thing no it's you're always going to air on the side

of backwardness yeah or moving backwards as opposed to moving forward cold jobs aren't coming back right and banning trans people from the military is not pro it's not a good idea it's very dumb

and probably illegal probably like most things so like all this stuff is regressive it's backwards facing and and if you're gonna talk about who it like everybody who hates progressiveness

everybody who who wants that conservative ideology going on they never stop to think okay so if we're going back who benefited the most from that from the actual going back or back then from back then progressives

back then no no the the forward motion through time yes oh no no no i mean if we if we like i misunderstand the question so if you're if you're saying oh we should go back to i know the answer is going to be white dudes right it's always white dudes but it's even more important

to mention it's fucking rich people it's oligarchs rich white christians dudes it's all of those people who are the ones who always want to take you back yeah because if you keep moving forward they realize they are not important and they're not empowered

and that's why this is really effective uh authoritarian propaganda disguised as uh being something against the jews yeah so uh here's a really interesting passage i found until recent times the russian autocracy the one and only serious foe we had in the world why does alex jones always say

that the russians are one of the only people who've kicked out the oligarchs who've kicked out the globalists it's in here it's in here that the only threat that the zionists felt they had was this strong russian autocracy

that's that's pretty that's pretty intense now granted this is probably referring to like the anti-semitism of the zars and shit like that but it still tracks in terms of mentality that the russians are the strong ones and they've resisted this globalist slash zionist influence it's a mess

man long pause i thought you were gonna say something no i'm just i'm just fucking what are you like that it's this makes me so hopeless dan you have made me so hopeless

you have took away any and all hope i ever once had that's not my goal like the idea like what has changed nothing what has changed from this fucking text we're still dealing with this there's still the same loads of clothes clothes have gotten a lot

external presentations of things have changed nobody has to wear hats anymore the fact that it is unacceptable for alex jones to reveal that so much of this is based on the protocols of the elders zion the fact that we have a society where you have to hide bigotry as opposed to we used to we used to have a society where you had to hide bigotry

i still think in about a year or two you will have to worry about it we're in that transitional redress phase yeah exactly we are we're in that moving backwards phase but i think right now we're still not quite out of the woods in terms of you know like i mean that's bullshit because some people have nazi tattoos and it doesn't seem to hurt them

uh i mean i would assume some job interviews don't go don't go great right but nazi tattoo but i mean case in point there was that stripper lady who bang like married jesse james right right was a swastika tattoo on her body yeah so i mean like she became a celebrity for a little while and all that did was people mocked her and she made a lot of money yeah um i don't know i dread where the world is going obviously but you shouldn't lose hope

there's there's there's hope in truth and lots of drugs i don't think anybody has ever said there's hope in truth i don't think anybody's ever said there's a self-satisfied death because once it all goes down we will die but at some point right before we die we'll be like we get to say i told you so well not and we told you so just like all right we said what we needed to say so here's another passage in order to affect the destruction of all collective forces except ours

we shall emasculate the first stage of collectivism oh get rid of men no rid of men now this is about education we have to emasculate the first stage of collectivism the universities by re-educating them in a new direction their officials and professors will be prepared for their business by detailed secret programs of action from which they will not with one immunity diverge not by one iota they will be appointed with special precaution and will be so placed as to be wholly dependent on the government alex jones believes that colleges are campuses full of liberal brainwashing

and that professors uh through the foundations are just being given marching orders and they spout globalist propaganda he did not go to college noted not college goer i went to college and my dad has been a professor my entire life i've known many professors and i can say at least as far as the religious studies departments of multiple major united states universities they're not getting marching orders from anybody no except and they're very rarely agreeing on anything nothing i don't think i've ever but any any i was a lit major i don't think i've ever even had two professors teaching the same book agree on what the book says yeah yeah ever yeah that's the robustness of university life

i think to me what this is saying is it's the same thing that alex jones talks about don't send your kids to college right because of the diversity of thought there and that diversity of thought whenever they bring it back makes you think they've been brainwashed right when it's really just oh i've been exposed to real things right but the diversity of thought leads you to a more liberal more progressive mindset generally of course and which is why it feels like you're being brainwashed which is why it feels or why it feels to them like you've been externally it appears that way because you have lost you shed your small town bigotry yeah and found the real world but i mean it's it's right out of here it's right out of this stupid book so alex jones

talks about how the globalists want to destroy our memories and he's special because he has a memory and beyond that on our last episode even where we played a clip where he talked about how the only thing he was ever taught growing up is how bad the west is now listen to this we shall erase from the memory of men all facts of previous centuries which are undesirable to us and leave only those which depict all the errors of the government of the goyum wow that's dead on man that's exactly what he that's dead on and i don't believe that in the real world alex jones was literally taught only that fucking the west is bad because i don't believe that for a second that's not a thing that would be taught especially not in fucking dallas in the

60s yeah yeah they would teach you that america is the greatest yeah now i imagine that there were subversive voices throughout the 60s and 70s and he was seeing some america bashing going on in the counterculture in the left certainly that was pervasive back then but that's not that's not what he claims he claims that all he was taught growing up is how bad the west is and i'll believe that's the truth i believe it's a perception that he is inflicted upon himself either directly from the protocols or from other sources that have has dispensed to him second hand yeah so suck it anyway we only i think we only have a couple more of these left here from the and keep in mind i i didn't want to just sit here and read at you for like three hours so there's

even more examples of just so it started out as a pamphlet how long is it now there's it's still like there's it's still like 15 pages or something no it's it's pretty long there's 24 protocols and this speaker gets off base a little bit there are some derivations on mars base a little bit yeah there there are there are some what i would call flights of fancy okay throughout and so i don't know i would i would say maybe i it's hard to tell because i have a kindle and it doesn't keep track of page numbers necessarily so it might be like a hundred pages okay 70 to 100 pages something so it's just been like it started out as this little pamphlet but not a little pamphlet add it to an added to an added to pamphlets back then could be big oh

that's right they didn't have tv back right so there there's a decent chance that when we say pamphlet you think of it's like two pages i think i think of it is like uh yeah but it could be like just a street book it's handed out on a loose paper and shit street book street book so here here's a i got street smarts and that's anti-symmetism here's the next one it's a little bit about taxes ooh our rule in which the king will enjoy the legal fiction that everything in his state belongs to him which may easily be translated into fact will be enabled to resort to the lawful confiscation of all sums of every kind for the regulation of their circulation in the state from this follows the tech that taxation will best be covered by a progressive tax on property

guns that's not about guns no he's they're talking about uh regulating and controlling things yeah and that's that's guns all the way no we can't he can't bitch too much about well i guess he can get a lot of his guests all constantly and talks about how much he doesn't believe in progressive taxes yeah he doesn't even believe in any federal taxes at all there should be a flat tax or whatever well i don't know if we should tithe yeah isn't that ted cruises dumbass idea we should all tithe alex jones thinks that in terms of health care that we should go back to when churches did all of it like oh yeah that's no good i think we should go back to when barbers did all of it that was a good time so but i mean i think i was hoping to

i was hoping that if i got another uh broken arm they would just take it well the the the regulation stuff that you're talking about does exist in pieces that i didn't pull out necessarily there's one portion where they say that it's best to disarm a population as opposed to lead them to war right that sort of thing like there is there are those sorts of fields that within it but there isn't as much talk about guns necessarily well they weren't because it was 1900 yeah the technology was not what we have now there weren't any assault rifles wasn't the the same that we have now i believe that this passage is more like actually just about just about real taxes and uh you know that does mirror uh to some extent alex jones's belief on taxes for sure economic crises have

been produced by us for the goyem by no other means than the uh i believe that there's a misprint here for no other means than the withdrawal of money from circulation let me try that again economic crises have been produced by us for the goyem for no other means than withdrawal of money from circulation huge capitals have stagnated withdrawing money from states which were constantly obliged to apply for those same stagnant capitals for loans so they create economic crises so they can take money out of the systems and take it for themselves and in the process they give massive loans to countries when they make them fight with each other in order to put them in situations where they can't possibly ever pay back those loans

and they will be essentially enslaved to the zionists that's exactly what alex jones says about the globalists and frankly that's just the college loan system well but not not with creative war apparently one thing about the elders of zion is that they damn well know how to put together a regressive college payment system yeah that does seem like a good gift of theirs yeah uh the other thing too is like they they talk about how like if anybody uh goes against us what we'll do is get their neighbor to fight with them uh you know like stir up trouble in the neighboring country uh and if they refuse to fight against each other we'll start a world war now look at what alex jones says about syria it says about ukraine he talks about how ukraine was just globalist meddling

in ukraine uh that was an attack on russia that's exactly what uh the plan of the zionists is within the protocols of the elders zion in alex's conception russia is against the globalists and so in order for them to fight against russia they get ukraine to do it yeah but russia invaded the god damn it i hate it i hate alex so much the things in his world uh view in his cosmology that aren't backed by facts have to be backed by something and it goes back to this whether it's directly from this or second hand from this yeah this is the root of it anti-semitic fraud is the root of so much of the reason alex jones lies so anyway we have one more uh one more clip could you read it in alex jones's voice thanks to such methods allowed by the carelessness of the

goi states their treasuries are empty the period of loan supervenes uh and that has swallowed up remainders and brought all the goi states to bankruptcy yeah you can't really do you can't really do alex jones voice well not just that but it's like that man could never say any of those words in that sentence he doesn't you want to he doesn't understand supervene he doesn't understand those words no but uh now he he like can he can he possibly i mean i i guess if he just absorbed this right as a as a worldview because it's not like he's going back and checking what is the elders of zion what are the elders of zion doing uh and how does it relate to this it has to be that from such a young age he was and frankly because i love the word and we've already heard it used

more times uh in this episode than i think i've heard it in my life he has been inculcated right with it's a great one uh with this this uh pes to the point where it is just an infection like it's almost a virus throughout his brain where he reacts through this lens yeah all the time like somebody who is super into the bible the people who are always like well matthew 216 it says you know that kind of a thing yeah i believe it's called like a schema like your psychological schema okay yeah throughout your life that's a great word for it you build it up uh and it's what you you filter your experiences through you you filter um other people through you just create your your the building blocks of your psychology uh through your life and it

becomes the lens yeah and yeah i'm willing to accept that yeah i'm willing to accept that that's possible that of course he's not going back and reading over this and being like oh there's a good bit for tomorrow i mean with his with his brain damage i doubt he can read anymore right and we've gone over he talks about how he was reading adult books when he was six or around that age maybe five uh reading college level books so if he was reading and we've also heard him say over and over again that his dad was a conspiracy theorist growing up oh yeah that's true so there's a real deal oh his dad is probably the pes dispenser yes there's a real decent chance that his dad in the house had books that alex jones read that were based on protocols of the elders was on he may

or just he may have had it yeah yeah uh it's entirely possible alex read those at a young age wasn't able to understand them and incorporated them so deeply into his schema yeah use that word yeah uh that now it just has become uh what all this other stuff is built upon without him realizing it and uh i think at this point i am ready to fully lay out my point and that is that there is no difference than alex and alex jones is globalists uh and the zionists in this fraudulent except for vague specifics yeah are vaccines and what have you are all dentists anti-semites i think that's my larger question are you an anti-dentite all right all right there it is all right there it is there it is i'm going to give you a point for that i'm going to give you a point for

that you get one so what do you think jordan where is your head at besides being overwhelmed by dread uh i don't i i don't my my feeling is that this is second hand if not if not like this is dispensed as a worldview uh through the ages right and never like i i would i doubt that alex has read the protocols of the elders i disagree i'm sure he's read it at some point you think so i think well i mean he talked about how one of the first books he bought was mine comp because he was super interested in it and some lady who was at the store was like why are you buying this i want to read people's ideas even if i don't agree with him so the fact that he has told that story on the air i'm not saying that he is into hitler or anything like that but what i am saying super into hitler

i don't well i mean i'm comfortable with you saying that only under the context of like as a historical figure i'm not saying that he's an out and out nazi or anything like that but the fact that he's like sandra bullock but like but the calm down i can't stop doing that i love that i love that i know i love that running bit though so uh the if the fact that he's willing to uh go on air and really express that one of the things early on in his life was reading things that maybe weren't true or were opposed to his position to the extent of mine comp i think that there's literally no way he never read this it's a very notorious book i did not know i have never heard of it before when you started talking about it's very it's

very big in conspiracy circles right right right i may have heard about it but i'd never paid any attention to it because there are hundreds of youtube videos about how real it is wow that's great i did not know that oh yeah oh yeah there's such a dark underbelly of fucking horrible racism yep it's most of it's a lot of the conspiracy community quite frankly not all of them are not painting everyone with that brush but um there there is a there is an undercurrent yeah don't don't tell me that my girl kali uh kary is kassidy kary kassidy is is uh i don't know and i'm not i'm not willing to make that claim but i do think she believes that betel's fought in vietnam uh betel bailey holy shit predictive programming holy

that's what it is holy there it is we figured it out so if the writer of betel bailey is in on it everybody's in on it dan i mean mort Walker how did you pull that you went to the university of Missouri ah you son of a bitch personal connection there's a betel bailey statue on campus that's crazy yeah it is pretty crazy but be that as it may uh i don't know if you guys out there listening i don't know where your heads are at but if there's one thing that you should take away from this it is that you need to go to the university of Missouri and see this betel bailey statue man that now i need to know now i worry that it's been taken down oh i don't know it was it was not our next episode is going to be you apologizing well the betel bailey it wasn't a statue as

much as it was uh like a seated statue there was like a table and it was like betel bailey was sitting there having a beer or at least like ronald mcdonnell that uh mcdonald's uh yeah yeah but sitting at a table yeah you could sit down next to him take a take a picture take a picture of you with a statue we don't have a lot to be proud of at the university of Missouri like we had we had like we had um we had that one president who went there who dropped the nukes we had him we had truman yeah he had truman because our mascot is truman the tiger and then that is a great way to memorialize the president and then we got kenneth lay went there from n ron so that's great we'll take betel bailey any day of the week got you

so uh this this brings us to the end of my uh exploration of the protocols of the elders of zion i hope you uh have enjoyed or at least been uh scared by this hopefully you're not hopeless and i hope that uh you understand my point i'm not sure i'm never able to tell if i've made my point but i hope uh that i have i don't know yeah alex jones is repurposing anti-semitism in order to build up his case of the globalists yeah and that's what's behind i mean even the nouveau alt light people like even jack possobiek and uh uh uh uh all right all right right no alt light none of that i refuse to i refuse fine refuse fine even the people like mike zernovich and jack possobiek they still rely on citing the globalists and stuff like that yeah

which means spiritually they are linked into the same mythology that alex jones is espousing and has been espousing for years and it is warmed up repackaged anti-semitic propaganda from 1903 russia they put it in a microwave and fucked us all with it absolutely thank you like a good like a good flashlight is that how that works i think so do you put it in a microwave i did back when i had one okay i didn't um so anyway if you would like to uh you can go check out our website i don't have anything else to say i know i know you did it you did it you accomplished what you set out to do i'm not sure i did and now you're kind of deflated you you got you you came you came i didn't i've said my piece yeah i hope i hope that i think you've laid out your case pretty

pretty clearly thank you i didn't like the format of this we won't do any more reading episodes yeah i don't think so but it was a necessary little detour uh and uh anyway we'll be back if you if you listened all the way to the end of this uh just so you know we're gonna be here you didn't need to listen to this one this one wow i disagree no i'm just okay this is essential anyway i'm sorry i'm sorry dan i just wanted to i just wanted to fuck with you we'll be back soon with uh more more alex jones more alex more the investigation more the regular episodes in the meantime if you'd like to follow us on uh twitter it's at knowledge underscore fight that's correct we're also on facebook at knowledge fight it is facebook we've noticed so many of you are uh

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fine do that i don't yeah sorts i was gonna i want to i want to policy wonk branded sword are there foam sword yeah that'd be fun all right we should larp as policy walks i honestly think that's gonna be cost prohibitive physically we physically get together it's like civil war reenactment except it's you dress up like either me or dan no and then somebody else dresses up like alex joe this is bad and you just fight with foam swords this is a bad idea that's a great idea we can't put the money up for these foam swords ahead of time you gotta buy your own foam sword oh for real yeah oh man they're expensive gone we don't have we don't have like an etsy so anyway we'll do something but until then uh we'll catch you next time but uh there's one thing that weighs

heavy on my heart uh there's this asshole what's who who is this asshole he's got a big old gray beard i hope you don't say he's a jew because that would be that would undercut your your entire episode is not but i'll tell you what he does believe uh that college campuses are brainwashing factories oh that's a very ill protocol of the elders of zion kind of guy yeah absolutely he is he's uh he's beholden to a lot of the similar narratives uh that alex jones pitches about what's his name his name is john rapaport and he can go fuck himself andy in chansas you're on the air thanks for holding so alex i'm a first-name caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you