Knowledge Fight - #670: July 28, 2003

Episode Date: April 15, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan dip into the past, looking for some gems.  In this installment, Alex eulogizes Bob Hope, expresses displeasure about Willie Nelson's new song, and whiffs an interview in spectacular fashion. Citations

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I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes. Sit around. We should put the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

Oh, indeed we are. Dan. Jordan. Jordan. Quick question for you. Uh-huh. What's your price spot today? Well, I don't know how to put it other than...

Show dreamy creamy. The dreamy creamy era has begun on this show. You shouldn't have shown me your weakness. You showed weakness. Here's the problem. When I saw you grab that file directly and put it back in and I was like, I know what that is. I know what that is.

And then immediately when I saw that, I knew what your bright spot was going to be and I'm furious with myself because this is going to happen forever now. Well, it's going to, in some way or another, it probably is. Yep. I mean, it's not always going to be a bright spot, but you don't reveal these kinds of soft spots. Especially not whenever they can be applied to a year of something. Well, it's not going to be a year.

We only do years of food items, apparently, but it's an era. Now this era may just last these two episodes, but yeah, it could be forever. Well, I mean, I have a hard time thinking that you can't find a way to use dreamy creamy right before your mustard updates. Not all mustards are creamy, my friend. See, that's why it's not an all the time thing. True. True.

Maybe some of these... Maybe some of the dreamier or creamier ones. I don't know if I like a creamy mustard that much. I'm thinking about it and I don't know if I would apply creamy to most mustards. Interesting. It's more of a mayonnaise thing. Is it mayonnaise creamy? I think so.

Yeah. Wait, wait. So, well, oh, I'm saying that it's an answer. Mustards are different from mayonnaise. Whoa. Is this news? No, no, no. It's okay.

I got it reversed around grammatically. It's not you. Okay. That was scary. I thought we're going to have to start with basics. I think we're going to have to start over again. So, cream, cream, cream, cream. What's your bright spot?

My bright spot, Dan, is my partner's mom. Her birthday was yesterday, so... Is this the Scotch mom? Yes. Okay. Yes. We, you know, she's the Scotch mom, so we celebrate with... I'm a Scotch mom.

Skip it. Can you do that in a Scottish accent? How do you... You don't scat in an accent? You... I mean, you can... Scottish people scat in an accent? They scat...

They scot in an accent. Okay. I'm sorry. Okay. If you railed it. Yeah. No. We had a lovely dinner.

It was like a wine and food pairing thing. And it was fantastic. The food was very good. The wine was incredibly strong. Incredibly strong. What was it? Like some vermouth? I mean, the...

The sommelier... Cooking sherry? Yeah. Which I guess is a job. And he was like, this... Slow down on this class. It's like 18 to 20 percent. Okay.

Yeah. That's within the realm of reasonable. That is stiff. That's a stiff glass of wine. I was worrying like... What do you mean? Like 35? No.

No, but the last one was... What is that? Like a port? Is that the stiffer wine? A port is... It's a type of wine. It is a type of wine. Yeah.

I mean... I'm revealing myself not to be a sommelier. I think it's just grapes. They're all just grapes. I think it's just grapes. Well, I guess there's apple wines, though. Like Boone's Farm? No.

Yeah. No, it was very good. The wine was very good. Everything was very good. Man, I wanted 18 percent Boone's Farm. It was difficult not to be for adult people walking out of that place drunk, though. Purely unintentionally, I went in there just thinking, we're going to have a good time. And they're like, this wine is going to fuck you up.

Yeah. I went to a wine tasting in like Sonoma Valley with my parents one time when we were on vacation in California. And yeah, I didn't get the memo that you're not supposed to drink all the wine. Right. You're supposed to like swish around. Yeah. Yeah.

A little ways through, I was like, I made a mistake. I'm pretty drunk. I did not get the... Oops. But I had a great time. Yeah. I'm sure you did, too. Absolutely.

And that's wonderful. Yep. I'm recording this in advance because you are on your honeymoon. I am in Canada right now. What? Yep. Yep. Across the border.

Oh my God. Nobody stopped me. Dude, I think that Canada is going to come up on this episode. No shit. You're a witch. I'm a witch. Yeah. We're talking about July 28th, 2003.

Ooh. Going back to this Monday episode in 2003. There's some stupidity. There's some really, really, really funny stuff, though. I believe that. One of Alex's most mis-fired interviews. I think I've ever heard on his show. Okay.

So awesome. Let's hear it. I'm excited to play it for you, but first, we must say hello to some new wonks. Oh, that's a great idea. So first, Mark Bankston's fan girl, thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much.

Thank you. Next, so Teddy can have a main character moment. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Next, come on, baby. Let's do the subtwist.

You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, Monica from Australia. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk.

Thank you, Monica. Thank you. Next, my heart broke when This American Life Didn't Play the Inflame Song, Episode 666 from their classic 1997 album, Horacle, for their 666 episode. And if you guys don't do it, I swear I will donate to Vulgarity for Charity so Tom can make Jordan cry. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.

I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. I mean, 30% of that, at least. Got this a little bit late. We are now past the 666 episode. I'm sorry that we fell into the same trap as This American Life. Well, what are you going to do? Well, I'm going to say hello and thank you to a technocrat that we got in the mix.

Thank you so much, Veronica. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. I have risen above my enemies. I might quit tomorrow, actually. I'm just going to take a little break, you know. A little breaky for me. And then we're going to come back.

And I'm going to start the show over. But I'm the devil. I've got to be taken out of here. Fuck you. Fuck you. I've got plenty of words for you. But at the end of the day, fuck you in your new world order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit.

Maybe today should be my last broadcast. I mean, maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again. That's really what I want to do. I never want to come back here again. I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. I'll be better tomorrow.

He's a little better in the past, more palatable. In the past, yeah. It is kind of shocking to be preparing a past and present episode at the same time as I did with this in our episode from Monday. Yeah. Just because it's like these are glaringly different mentalities. Totally. It's nuts.

Yeah. The two of them are because obviously the same person and obviously he sucks and is a bigot in the past too. Right. But just the level to which he has fallen apart is it's staggering. Yeah. And I wouldn't laugh if he wasn't such a complete dick. Anyway, in July of 2003, there's something interesting that's going on

and that is public conversation is starting to happen around the release of the 9-11 report. Right. And Alex has some thoughts about this and the fact that there are 28 pages missing. Oh, the 28 pages missing. The 28 redacted pages. Oh, those 28 pages that definitely didn't have anything to do with Saudi Arabia.

Well, Alex has probably one of the most surprising perspectives on this I could have imagined. You talk about firestorms going on all over the place, but much of it is nothing but a red herring diversion operation by the globalist. We have the senators up on the Sunday news shows yesterday talking about how the government whitewash commission excised out 20-plus pages of information about Saudi Arabia and how they were tied to the terrorist.

Folks, Saudi Arabia didn't run the terrorist. The globalists did. MI5, MI6, CIA, Mossad, from all the evidence. So I thought this was a pretty shocking position for Alex to have about this. Like at this point in July 2003, the report of the House and Senate joint inquiry into the events of 9-11 was being released. And a lot of people were a bit suspicious that there were 28 pages completely redacted. Normally, for a conspiracy theorist, this thing, like something like this would be so exciting.

But weirdly, Alex seems to not be interested in the redacted pages. It seems not to care what they might have in them or might reveal. Well, he's already staked his claim on what should have happened. So what's in those redacted pages is not going to help his story. Right. I suspect that, you know, his narrative has to be presented as ironclad, and that's what's going on. He's not curious or interested at all because it's already set.

There can't be any room for doubt because his whole narrative is held together with chewing gum and scotch tape. It's flimsy as hell. Alex has so little evidence of anything that he has to insist that he actually has all the evidence. And the notion of 28 secret pages could lead to questions about how they stack up with his supposed evidence. In that sense, Alex's angle here is really smart. He can't be intrigued by the 28 pages because he has to already know what's in them.

Whatever has been redacted has to conform to his existing narrative and the parts that don't are part of an elaborate cover-up that are being covered up within the already cover-up 9-11 report. That's how covered up this is. Yeah. Is that the admission of guilt is part of the cover-up of covering up that you didn't admit guilt. Right.

It was long believed that the 28 pages involved details about possible Saudi Arabian involvement with the hijackers. So Alex bringing that up isn't super surprising at all in this time frame. Yeah. And giving the actual documents wouldn't be declassified for like another 13 years. He's on pretty safe ground to make up whatever he wants about this to suit his purposes. Yeah. Oh, everybody did. It was great. I would get into the actual contents of those 28 pages,

but it doesn't really seem productive since Alex has no idea what's in them and he thinks they're a cover-up anyway, so it's kind of a dead end. Eventually Ron Paul starts to make them a big deal like to declassify those pages. So I would imagine that around that time Alex's tune will change. Sure. But for now, this is where we are. He's just like, ah, who gives a shit? Oh, you're not going to explain to us what happened on 9-11?

I mean, I'll explain some things what you want. I'm just saying that I forgot. Okay. So it turns out that the reason that these pages were redacted is because Saudi Arabia made some threats. The Saudis are the Saudis aware of it and involved in it at a certain level they are. In fact, about two weeks ago, the Saudis had gotten word that they were going to be in the report from Congress in the Whitewash Commission.

Whitewash. And they said, if you list our banks as funding terrorists, we're going to list who owns our banks and who was involved in the transfers. And they said it's four top U.S. banks with connections to U.S. intelligence. There were a bunch of articles in mainstream foreign press, as the Saudis and the Saudi Foreign Minister in Washington, or as it wasn't in our news, said if U.S. does, we're going to tell the world how you're involved in the terror.

So it's pretty hard to figure out what to think about this claim that Alex is making here. On the one hand, I don't think he's basing this on anything real from foreign news, but on the other hand, in 2016, Saudi Arabia did threaten to sell off approximately $750 billion in Treasury securities and other assets in the United States. This was in response to the discussion of a bill that was happening in the Senate that would make the government of Saudi Arabia open to being sued for any possible involvement with 9-11. Basically, 9-11 victims' families could be able to sue Saudi Arabia with this bill's passage. I don't believe that this necessarily is completely comparable, though,

because the reason that they threatened to sell these assets in the United States was because if they were made vulnerable to lawsuits, their assets in the United States could be frozen. So the idea of selling them off was one part threat and one part just a decent plan. Yeah, this is just like a business plan. I can't find evidence of this threat from Saudi Arabia regarding the Pages Redaction, and I do think that Alex is making stuff up, but it's not the most outlandish thing that he could come up with to make up. Right. One of the reasons I'm particularly wary of Alex's story is because the 28 pages that were redacted didn't have to do with Saudi banks.

So the idea that they would have been tipped off to something like that that wasn't in the report is a little bit off for me. Yeah. Thematically, it feels a little like that's a detail that fits neatly into Alex's 2003 conception of the globalist as primarily being involved in the banks of the world, as opposed to being demons trying to drink children's blood to make it so Alex can't explore space. Right. Another reason I'm a bit unconvinced is that in the redacted pages, there are indications of connections between 9-11 hijackers and people connected to the Saudi Arabian government, but definitive conclusions aren't made.

The recommendation is for investigation, saying that these connections could be damning evidence, but quote, on the other hand, it's also possible that further investigation of these allegations could reveal legitimate and innocent explanations for these associations. So I don't really think. I don't know. I don't. This story doesn't jibe unless Alex could provide some kind of a source and he doesn't. I don't think he's going to.

Nope. Nope. All right. So Alex has some news. Yes. That he's going to break. That has nothing to do with 9-11. Okay.

There's this celebrity news. Okay. Who is it? Who is it? And what does Alex think? July 23rd. Well, I know. 28th.

I know it's not Betty White. True. I know it's not Dame Judy Dench. True. But beyond that, anybody's fair game. Do you want to play a question and answer game? Sure. I'll give you two questions.

Okay. Biggest movie. No idea. But has been in a lot of a lot of movies. Oscar? Probably. You know what? I'm going to go with Sidney Poitier then.

No. I would definitely know. Look who's coming to dinner. Right? Okay. Fine. Fine. Fine.

Do you want an Oscar? Okay. I know. I know less about this person than Sidney Poitier apparently. Okay. Gotcha. I've lined up for you on July 28, 2003. And yes, Bob Hope of Bohemian Grove fame has died.

Oh. And we hope he went to heaven. But as a worshiper of Molek, we're not too sure. Okay. Yikes. I like Alex's eulogies. Yeah. It'd be nice if this guy wasn't a murdering monster who should burn it out.

Well, if this person didn't worship the devil, they'd probably be in heaven. But rest in peace. I bet you'd be having a great old time if you hadn't had sex one time before you got married. But now you're in hell. How does that feel? So, um, Alex ends up dealing with this a bit, uh, with the, the, the, the idea

that all the news is like covering Bob Hope's death, but they won't talk about him being a Satan worshiper is a problem for Alex. And then he also in this clip announces one of his guests and this is so awesome. And we do have several guests coming up today. We've got the spokesperson for one of the corporations involved in building the emergency relocation centers for your safety, of course, one of the quarantine centers joining us on the show. And we've got some other guests as well that I'll tell you about a little bit later in

the broadcast in the meantime, Bob Hope is dead at 100 years old. Wow. And you know, the guy didn't seem like a bad person to me. He seemed like a, uh, kind of that 1940s slapstick style of humor. I know that my grandmother or grandmothers like Bob Hope, but he does attend the Bohemian over or did attend and had been involved in some of the revelry there, according to the Washington Times and spy magazine and Esquire and other publications. But I wonder why they didn't mention that in his big obituary today, wall to wall all

over the news. It is. That Mr. Hope was a worshipper of a Canaanite God. I imagine it wasn't in the obituary because it's not true that he was a worshipper of a Canaanite God. And also the fact that he went to Bohemian Grove is probably on the scale of things that are important about Bob Hope. Yeah.

Real low. Way low. Way low. Now I ask you, what was Bob Hope's biggest movie? Oh boy. That is a good question. I don't know. But I went, he went on a road trip.

See, not so funny that I couldn't know that. Now that I know it's Bob Hope, of course you can't know the name of a movie. Do you know if you want an Oscar? No, I do not. Okay. I don't think so. I don't think Bob Hope wanted Oscar. I said maybe he won a Grammy.

He said probably I had no, he won a Grammy. Mm hmm. Yeah. So yeah, Bob Hope is suspicious in their omission in his obituaries that he worships in Malik. What a big swing for an obituary. Just to throw that at the man dominated American culture for 50 years. Went on a billion USO trips.

Could not do more to do all of this stuff. Just went on everybody. Everybody knows Bob. Everybody knows Bob. It is alleged to have been like a sex slave handler. Yep. Yep. Yep.

But yeah, also. Yeah. Oh, any. Okay. Malik. So yeah, Alex has a guy who's involved with the relocation center building coming on. This can't go well. This is one of my favorite interviews of all time.

Okay. It's delicious. This person, the way he described this person seems like they are going to be a calm, knowledgeable. I mean, I'm going to throw this out there. Helpful person trying to help Alex understand what it is they're going to do. I am going to give you know it's the best. Okay. So Alex is a little piece of trivia that the shock of shocks is not true.

By the way, the judge report talked about how Bush signed an American flag, which is against the US code, but it said only George Bush can do that. He is our commander in chief and can do whatever he wants to the flag. Well, that's not true. And on top of it, I want to add he's not commander in chief until Congress declares war. But again, he's just a puppet. That's not true. So Alex is misunderstanding or misrepresenting the part of article two, section two clause one of the Constitution that has to do with this kind of stuff. Quote, the president shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States and of the militia of the several states when called into the actual service of the United States.

The when called into the actual service part has to do with the militia only. But Alex is pretending it applies to everything. Again, man, we're really going to have to get into like scanning a sentence like try and say the word subjunctive clause to Alex Jones. And I think you're going to have a real struggle. No, he's going to throw a swing at you. Yeah, absolutely. So Alex gets to some predictions. And as we know, I mean, every time we listen to his show, he says he's right about 97% of totally well.

Also, US hunts for Saddam around the Tigris River. Don't you want to bet they're about to find him? Of course, it'll be a dead body double. The old Saddam and the boys are in Belarus. According to press reports, I trust a lot more than this media. Maybe you should trust that media less. And that media will tell me that Putin is right and a good guy and always telling the truth. It's fascinating because Alex is right 97% of the time.

But in that sentence, he's wrong twice. Twice. He's wrong that Saddam is in Belarus with his sons. Not there. And he's also wrong that you're going to find a dead body double. Yep. Found a living Saddam. You got.

Yep. Found where he lived. You could go inside of his little hole. Yeah, man. Yep. I vacationed there one year. Did you? I don't know if that's in poor taste.

So Alex has an interesting perspective on this story about Bush signing the flag. Yes. He's actually fine with it. Oh, well, I mean, he would have to be because later on his, his dude's going to try and fuck it. So true. But he doesn't know that in 2003. I do actually kind of want to tip my cap a little bit to the perspective that Alex has that is like, okay, other people are getting mad about Bush signing the flag.

Right. I don't like it, but it's fine. Yeah. The flag symbolizes the freedom to sign the flag. Right. Yeah. And I appreciate that conceptually on Alex's part. A basic burn the flag is part of the flag kind of thought.

Yeah. Yeah. But then also this clip ends surprisingly. I don't think Alex likes Matt Drudge in 2003. There's a look, I don't want to spend any time on this, but Bush in a rally was caught on by a photograph of photographer signing an American flag, which violates the US code and they tried to pass the constitutional amendment, which is a red herring. The first amendment that the flag symbolizes states that you should be able to ride on

the flag if you want to. I like the flag. I find it offensive to ride on it or desecrate it, but I find it more offensive to take that right away because that's what the flag symbolizes. You know, we're not blood and soil here like Germany where we mindlessly worship the flags at least not yet, but in this religious fervor, it came out with the high priest of phony patriotism, George W blue blood from Kenny Buckport, Maine had signed the flag George Bush and everyone freaked out about it.

But don't worry, Matt Drudge, another New World Order priest told us that, hey, it's okay. That really surprised me. Drudge is a New World Order priest back then. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. That shocked me.

I don't know exactly. Probably at that point, Drudge was a little bit more mainstream conservative. Yeah. And it was very jingoistic. Yeah. It was very jingoistic at the time. I guess, I mean, I wasn't keeping track of the drudge report in that period of time when I was 17, 18, 19.

Yeah. My dad was a regular drudge reader and oh yeah, I could, I could see it having a bent of supporting the war and such. Yeah. But it is, it is really interesting because Drudge becomes such an important piece of Alex's career to hear in this, this stretch that a fuck this guy, he's a New World Order. But I mean, it's, it's so, it is representative of how conditional everything is. Yeah.

Like at this point, he's a New World Order priest, eventually becomes the most important person in all of conservative media because he's, you know, been there and he exposed the Clintons, which was before he became a New World Order priest. And then eventually maybe he sold the drudge report to globalists or sold back out and then became a globalist. Then he was cool for a while again. Yeah. It's all just whatever, whatever works today will rewrite your narrative tomorrow.

Yeah. That is the, that is so frustrating about going back to different eras of Alex of info wars is because, you know, like it is, it's like a long running show where a former, and it's like a long running soap opera where it's like, okay, sure. So for season six and 12, this guy was the biggest enemy number one right in season seven. He turns out to be a good guy and then they worked together, but then in the season 11, he turns to be, you know, let me tell you the difference between that. There's a narrative arc with shows.

True. If this were being compared to that, I would say that this is incredibly poorly written because there isn't an explanation for what made Matt Drudge go from New World Order priests to to hero of the Patriot movement. Yeah. It's just arbitrary. It's like if you're watching a show that is long running, certainly, but also like haphazardly just changes people's alignments over and over again.

That's the problem. That is 100% because my feeling is if we go back into the past and drudges an enemy, then I need to know why, what happened? What's the reason that you know what it is? What's the narrative backstory? Of course. That's what I want to know. And we don't get that.

You know what it's more like the cloud atlas. It is a lot like the. You're watching a movie and it's like, all right, that's Tom Hanks and he's friends with the Halle Berry or whatever. And then it's in another time. It's like that's still Tom Hanks. But now he's mad at Halle Berry. Interesting.

This is disorienting. This is going to be a great movie one day. Yeah. Alex's show is like the cloud atlas. Gotcha. That's also as racially problematic could be argued. So here is the clip where I prove to be a witch part two from Monday from Monday. And everyone freaked out about it, but don't worry, Matt Drudge, another new world order

priest told us that, hey, it's okay. The high priest is the only one. It actually says this only the commander in chief is allowed to burn a flag, cut a flag, ride on a flag. He can change the rules whenever he wants as our dictator. And so it's okay. It's okay. And you know, four legs good, two legs bad.

But you know, now it's okay for the pigs to start walking upright and saying, four legs okay, but two legs better. Okay. If you haven't read Animal Farm by George Arwell, you think I sound completely insane. It'll probably be in a New York Times article, but Mr. Jones talks about pigs and then walking on two legs. It's a book written by George Arwell. I've got to watch it though.

I'll get emails. What? Oh boy. Again, I'm pro second amendment pro national sovereignty. That means I'm an evil liberal, according to Ann Coulter. We'll come back and I promise we'll start going to your calls. Got to get to those calls. Yeah.

So he does the sort of same riff about Animal Farm and it's weird because that isn't something that he does on every episode. It just happens. It's the two episodes that I was preparing so weird at the same time. So weird. Yeah. Very bizarre. I'm getting sick of being in a simulation.

You got to break me free. I do also like though the, the weird defensiveness like first of all, New York Times isn't watching your show that closely in 2003 or even now I would argue. Absolutely not. And the only people who are going to send you emails are your listeners who haven't read Animal Farm. I mean, who do you think that people are going to suddenly like walk by the radio and go two legs, good four legs, but this Alex Jones guy is talking gibberish.

Yeah. I mean, no, we'd walk by and be like, Oh, that's an animal forum, right? Because 20 years ago it was just as annoying when people made Animal Farm references. Yeah. And we've done it twice in a week. Yeah. It's okay. So anyway, Alex has talked a bit about the flag issue.

Sure. But also he has some thoughts about people who cover the flag issue and there's a bunch of other news here, but it really shows how petty things have gotten that people are criticizing Bush now for writing on one of these desecrated Chinese flags. I mean, it's, it's a thousand times worse that, that the flags are made admittedly in some of the slave camps of China. Yeah. I've done my own little study in stores about one out of 20 flags you find is made in America.

I have found a few that are made in America. Most of them have not all are made in Taiwan or China. That's not true. Do you think it's true? You were willing to accept that that's true. Oh, no, no. I mean, I didn't know that he said that all of them were, I meant the part where he said the bigger problem is that they're made in slave camps.

The bigger problem because the other part is not even a problem. Right. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So this is a good example of how flawed Alex's information gathering techniques are. I assume his little study that he conducted himself was like skimming and misreading a headline or possibly just seeing one flag that said made in China and then jumping to

the conclusion that almost all the United States flags are made in China. One in 20 are made in the United States, he says, 95% made somewhere else. Okay. That's interesting. In reality, according to the Flag Manufacturers Association of America, 94% of all United States flags are manufactured right here in America. Fun. Most of the imported ones do come from China, but it's a really small percentage compared

to the ones that are domestically produced. Any flag that is imported has to have a clearly visible declaration of where it was made. And if you find a flag that doesn't show that it was made in America or have a country of origin declaration, you're supposed to contact the Federal Trade Commission because that is a bootlegged flag. Holy shit. I did not know that they are pretty serious. Is there a bootleg flag market?

Oh, I can't imagine it's huge. How could you not? But there is a Flag Manufacturers Association of America. They don't like people getting in on their turf. Yeah. I mean, I guess this is the new mafia. So this is a good illustration of Alex's information style. It feels like all the flags are made in China.

And there's kind of a poetic theme that resonates to that idea that fits with his narratives about the world, but it doesn't reflect reality. One possibility for how Alex could get this impression is that every now and again, usually around the 4th of July, someone will run a headline like the one that was posted in the Huffington Post from 2013. Quote, 94% of American flags imported to the United States last year came from China. That headline is true, but it's misleading. 94% of the flags that were imported came from China, but they were still only like 5% of

the total number of flags manufactured. The rest of them were made domestically. Right. If you read to the second paragraph of that very article with that headline, it says, quote, American manufacturers still make up the bulk of the business. Right. Alex doesn't read past headlines and thus just as a surface level grasp of most of the stories he covers.

That's kind of unfortunate for him, but it becomes a big problem when these flawed interpretations of stories are passed along to his audience as some kind of gospel truth. Just using this example, if you believe Alex, then you think that 95% of flags in our country are imported when the exact opposite is true. What I'm getting at is that he's an unreliable source of information because he doesn't have good methods to take his information in. Right. Whatever's coming into him is going through a terrible filter before it comes to you,

the listener. Right. It's unreliable. You can't trust it. If he's right, it's an accident. Yeah. Yeah. This seems like a situation though, where it is not just him at fault here.

Yeah. Like in terms of that article headline could be well much better, but I also don't know if he's operating off a headline like that. I'm not necessarily saying that to be the case, but that HuffPo article is a good exemplar of why it is very easy to immediately be taken in by somebody saying 95% of those, because that is the type of clickbaity headline you would write, and that's why they write that. Well, but again, it's true. Well, but again, it is true, but it's clickbaity bullshit, and that makes me change what I

think might be true based on what's going. Yeah, it's it's it's tough. It's tough to know if like that's a wrong headline. Yeah, like it's the wrong thing to post, right? Because strictly speaking, if you do read the words in the sentence, it doesn't give the wrong impression. It says flags that are imported. Ninety-four percent of them are made in China.

Right. Fine. Fair enough. Right. But yeah, it gives it because the number is so high, it gives a distorted perception. I don't know. I would have. I would have probably tweaked it.

It is it is spiritually not going to do the job that you want it to do. No, if you're job, if you're telling me this information, 94% of American flags, I would need the context to make a decision about what to do with that information. And from that, my context is just like, holy shit, China's got all of our flags, you know, they make everything, even our patriotism. And even then, whenever you write down in the middle of the article, second paragraph, Americans still make up the bulk of it. Yeah.

Well, that doesn't mean that's not 95 fucking percent, you know, true. But I think I think if you look at some of the numbers that are included in there in terms of like bulk sales and stuff, you kind of get the sense that it is like 95%. But that's if you're going to say, yeah, yeah, no, I, I, I've argued my way through to the other side. Nope, that is a bad headline. Yeah, it's not good. Yeah.

So Alex takes a call and a guy brings up a little politician that becomes fairly important for Alex for a short period of time before he decided, oh, no, no, no, I'm going to get away from this. But at this point, Alex has no idea who he is. I appreciate you pointing out a lot of the things about how the media overtly lies to us. But I also wanted to point out a story that's kind of a regional story with national implications that's been largely overlooked by the national media, which is the case of

Judge Roy Moore in Alabama, who has been fighting a federal court order to remove 10 commandments from the Alabama Supreme Court House. A ruling from the 11th district court came down in Atlanta last week and the feds might quite possibly move to actively remove that against the state of Alabama this week. Well, that's the first thing Ashcroft did when he got in office was raid a church and take down some 10 commandments. Yeah. Alex seems to have no idea about Roy Moore at this point, which I guess isn't too

surprising because this is where he sort of comes into a national prominence in whatever way he did. And I was fleeting at this point until more recent history. But yeah, so this is also along with the California recall race, the whole chaos around Roy Moore trying to do the whole 10 commandments thing. I think it's going to be another long running storyline on Alex's show. Oh, man. We might even fuck around and run into Roy Moore showing up on the show.

I don't know. It's possible. I don't like that he was still around 20 years ago and people let him continue on to get into my life. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like you guys, listen, everybody in the past, you knew this was coming. And now you left it to me to deal with and that's on you.

Yeah, you left a mess. Yeah, absolutely. Get your shit together. The past. All right. So you can come down on the past all you want. I would for many things. So one of the things the past is giving us is this interview that Alex is going to do.

Well, I'll be nice to that. So this guy, he is named Ed McCulloch and he runs an organization called Didalis Projects. And Alex has given him a little bit of an introduction. And we are joined by Dr. Ed McCulloch. He is the head of the Didalis Project. Didalis was the father of Icarus. Remember Icarus? He basically used the hot wax to put the feathers on his shoulders and arms and flew up to the sun.

Thought he could be like the gods, but the feathers, the wax got hot and he fell back to earth. Interesting name. It's true that Didalis was the father of Icarus, but that's not his top credit. I mean, I think the fact that he built the labyrinth for King Minos is probably a little higher on the list of reasons that you might name your construction company after him. I might have forgot to mention this, but Alex is interviewing a guy who runs a construction company. So yeah, they're they're into fabrication. Yeah. So obviously, like Didalis was one of the chief pretty construction folk of the ancient Greek.

Yeah, you wouldn't call him Hephaestus, but you wouldn't shake a stick at it if he was compared to him, you know, that level. Hephaestus was more of like a smith, you know, he created things for sure. But in terms of buildings and stuff, maybe you'd go with more with the labyrinth, construction, labyrinth, classic, man, minotaur. That minotaur, he and he and Heracles, he's never got along well. Nope, nope. Took me forever to beat the minotaur in Odyssey, Assassin's Creed Odyssey. OK, that was an annoying fight. Anyway, one of the best episodes of Batman the Animated Series.

Sure. Yep. So, Ed, Alex asks him a little bit about like, what's your what's your company all about? Tell us about Datalus and about your company and about some of the projects it works on and about this new facility that you're going to be building in Pittsburgh. Thanks, I think the important point here is that Datalus was principally focused upon the development of materials to create extremely low cost housing in the emerging markets of the developing world. As it turns out, in our view, there are probably few materials available that provide the same structural integrity, the same projected longevity and the same sense of dignity as the materials we have designed. So we had never really intended to be in the US domestic market.

We simply recognized through one of our associates that a requirement existed to have a low cost response or a low cost response capability that could put up 500 bed facility, a 500 bed facility within about 24 to 48 hours and perhaps a thousand bed facility within 48 to 72 hours. So, Alex wants to have an interview about the conspiracy elements of these centers. Yep. Yep. And he has got a guy on who's in the construction side. Right, right. Yeah, if I'm, if I'm Alex right here, I heard that answer and I went, this has been great talking to you. Good night, sir.

He, Alex makes a few efforts. Yeah. He tries a little bit, but unfortunately in the framing of his questions, he also reveals that he doesn't actually know anything about the subject. He's talking about now the different news articles and correct them if they're wrong. They said this is a, this 150 bed facility is a facility for the public and the government and the media to get a good look at. Hopefully, I guess to sell the system out there competing with the others that are bidding on the government contracts. Well, I'm not sure if that's correct or not. I don't know of any potential government contracts for this particular development.

As it turns out, this particular facility is under a government funded contract through Allegheny County in Pittsburgh, where they have one of the more advanced or perhaps leading edge groups involved in both civil preparedness and disaster response. Yeah, we're not looking for any contract is already a contract. We're just doing this in Pittsburgh. I, I cannot be more on board with two people who clearly have no idea what they're supposed to be doing with each other. Right. Like just no idea. He's, he's like, I'm giving you information about buildings. That's why you would interview me.

Yeah. The only reason you would talk to me is if you wanted to know about buildings. I have a company and I'm sincerely excited about this new application of this material, this building material that we have developed. And I'm thrilled that you would give me a national platform to talk about how and the other applications of building housing in the developing world. This is so exciting for me. Alex is like, tell us about the government's trying to kill you. How right? Oh, we're going to lock people up in this.

Now, they said that during a quarantine, people are going to be locked up in these things for everyone's safety so they don't spread the pathogen. How does your facility provide that level of containment? Well, I think that's a little inaccurate or perhaps a little easier. The real notion here is that these facilities would provide the opportunity for observation, for isolation, excuse me, for observation, for quarantine and isolation. So in fact, you would, you would presumably have three different kinds of patients, those who believe that perhaps they've been exposed but don't really know those who have been exposed for certain and those who have been exposed for certain and exhibit certain features of a particular disease. Yeah, but I mean, they had the guy in Dallas who they thought had SARS and he wanted to leave the hospital and they wouldn't let him and chained him down to the bed. Yeah, that's not a part of Daedalus activity. Davis is really working on the structural side of this.

Yeah, we're, we're on the, we're on the building, building side of things. Such a misfire. That's not a part of the Daedalus wing of what we do here. No, no, that's okay. Well, see that we are a construction company, sir. Thank you very much. Such a fucking misfire on Alex's part. So awesome.

What could he possibly thought was going to happen from this? I don't know. What, what world do you think that you're going to get an engineering construction guy to come in and be like, yeah. So this, all this really cool stuff that I'm really interested in. I love building. I love building materials. I love what I'm doing. Also, we're out in the developing world.

There's really cool places I could be right now, but right here, I am excited to do this. You know what I'm doing? I'm creating trap doors. If you try and escape, you go down and you know what's down there, the devil. Thank you for inviting me on to the show to tell everybody about it. I can't believe they gave me the contract. Nobody even asked me if there was a trap door to hell in here. This is some 2003 ass shit right here.

This is what it's all about. It's all about, man. This is like the heart and soul. Well, but it's, you know, there is, there is an element to this that is, I think maybe it's a long shot kind of interview. Like, sure, maybe something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then the other, the other end of it, too, is that Alex recognizes that like there's nothing going on. Not going to happen.

And so he bails. You can tell that the interview ends much more quickly than it would if something interesting was happening. Of course. And so he comes back after ending the interview. Well, actually, I'm sorry. Before the interview ends, you can see him give up in the, in the actual interview. Wow. In 48, in 48 hours, having a system with power and water and everything.

That's correct. So what do you have like trucks that have nodules of different services and then they all show up, put the frame together and then stick the appliances in or that is correct. In the case of the heating ventilation, air conditioning, the HPAC provider that's really being done by Albin Cat and called Albin Cat Rental Solutions of Elkridge, Maryland. So Alex is just interviewing the guy about how you make a building. All right. So when you bring, you've taken the stuff off the truck so that you put it together, huh?

You get plumbing in there in 48 hours. Holy cow. That is pretty impressive. I mean, it's pretty impressive. It's actually one of the more informational things that could be doing, but it's so disappointing for Alex. No, I'm actually kind of interested in how that's kind of cool. Yeah, it's pretty impressive. You got a dedicated HPAC guy at 48 hours dedicated.

So Alex ends the interview and then he tries to save face when he comes back from break by pretending that that was what he was trying. That was totally what it was. Yeah. Let me just say about the last guest. I assessed him rather quickly. A bookworm, a polymer specialist, not a bad guy, a Dudley do right. And I just wanted you to know what type of camps you're going to be living in. I just, you know, just so when you're inside of them and they drive your wife off to have their way with her, I just want you to know the type of facility you'll be in.

Good say, honey. I just finished the interview. It ended kind of weird. Are you still listening? He said, what? I just wanted you to know that whenever they take you into these camps that there will be air conditioning. He called me a bookworm. I just wanted you to know that whenever the globalists come and they put you in the camp, it will be made with some very innovative materials.

That are being used to create housing in the developing world. Let's, let's be real. These are going to be really trustworthy buildings that you are going to be murdered in. Good luck getting out. You are not going to be blowing these up. So Alex goes to calls because that's much more fruitful territory for him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And unfortunately, the topic of a Jewish mafia comes up.

No, that's not good. No, it's not. Apparently Bloomberg is a little bit new on the scene and a caller wants to know if he's part of the Jewish mafia. That's a good question. Take the new guy, Bloomberg, he would tell his employees, this is mainstream news on the website right now, he'd tell women who got pregnant, kill that baby now or you're fired. That doesn't sound right. Is he part of the Jewish cartel up there, Bloomberg, or is that some other nationality? No, there's no such thing as a Jewish cartel.

How dare you? There's only Wasp mafia and a town in mafia. And three six mafia. No, hey, hey, bugsy seagull. That was made up. Hey, I appreciate your call. Yeah, thanks. And what I'm trying to illustrate here is I don't think Jews were on the world.

I don't think Jews are the secret group behind the New World Order. Evil people are, whether they're Chinese or German or Jewish, but if you expose Jewish mafia, the ADL and people will come out and attack you. It was anti-Semitic and I think that's a sick joke, but it's a great system. Stop round where that we were golden. Well, not really. Well, it was real bad, but after the butt that that that took a little bit of a nosedive. When are people going to realize where that a period is most powerful? It would have been right there.

It would have been right there. Yeah, it's not about where you want the period to be. It's about where the period is powerful. So Alex is expressing that there is a Jewish mafia and if you criticize them, the ADL comes after you, which implies that they're sort of like a protection wing of the Jewish mafia. This is a good man. And Alex, you know, it starts to get a little bit mad about this. I mean, it doesn't matter whether it's whether it's Bloomberg or Giuliani or Arnold Schwarzenegger. These guys are new world order pimps.

But yes, we should be able to criticize Bloomberg, even though he's Jewish and we shouldn't let organizations use bad things that have happened to any racial group in the past as an excuse today where we can't criticize them. I mean, people who criticize black street gangs have been called racist or people that criticize. Did they do it racistly? All these communist Chinese spies were paying off people in our government. There were articles in the news. Is it covert racism to criticize the Chinese workers at military bases? No. So there's an interesting and very deeply racist lack of understanding that Alex has about the things he's saying.

And I think I can sum it up simply like this. It's totally fine to criticize Bloomberg, even though he's Jewish. Unless your criticism of Bloomberg is just a vague, unsubstantiated claim that he's part of some mysterious Jewish mafia. If your criticism of him relies on him being Jewish to make sense, then your criticism is anti-Semitic. If your criticism is about his politics and his policies in general, then it's probably not. And you can see this refusal to see non-white people as individuals at the end there. You can see that very clearly. Alex is saying that he sports being critical of all Chinese Americans who work in military bases because of the fear that some of them might be spies.

That's ridiculous. Nothing racist about that. That's not a logical train of thought unless you're a racist. Since Chinese spies exist, all Chinese people should be seen with some suspicion because they possibly could be one of those spies. It's important to recognize how this mentality and line of thought feeds directly into exactly the same motivation that led our country to intern Japanese Americans during World War II. That was a shameful act in our country's history. And Alex's mind hasn't learned the most elementary lesson that you should learn from it because deep down, he probably thinks it made sense to intern all the Japanese people. Right. Now, here's one of the big flaws with racists and their thoughts on spies, right?

OK, so if I'm China and I want to get some spies going in the United States, here's my thought. All right. The United States is racist as fuck. Let's get some white folk to do it. Boom. Done. The end. Problem solved. That would be an interesting espionage tactic.

I would try that one. Not a terrible plan. So anyway, Alex is racist. He also has another guest. Might be a little bit more fruitful than the other guest, but he's also named Ed. Weird. So we're going to break here in a second. We're going to come back with Dr.

Ed Hudson. And he's with one of the big groups up in Canada who are valiantly fighting the government bureaucrats, the socialistic control freaks up there in the Commonwealth want to make the Canadian people their property. And I just hope they keep going and I hope they use this revolution against tyranny up there to remove a lot of the other things we've seen. There's also big discussions of provinces seceding. Secession, leaving the Commonwealth of the gun confiscation registration continues.

That's very exciting. Quite exciting. That is exciting. So for what it's worth, there's pretty regular conversations about secession and parts of Canada, and it rarely has anything to do with guns. It's hard to say how much of what Alex is saying is based on any real momentum or if he's just connecting stray pieces of information in his head. Now, Dr.

Ed Hudson is a really fun fella. He's on a crusade to challenge Canada's Firearms Act in a wonderfully quixotic fashion. Okay. On January 21st, 2003, Hudson staged an event outside a Saskatoon police station where he was in clear view of uniform police and he sold an unregistered rifle receiver to an associate of his named Joe Gingrich. The hope was that he could get arrested on a gun sales charge, which he could then

appeal up to the Canadian Supreme Court. And that would be his ticket to getting the Firearms Act overturned. Right. However, he didn't get arrested on a gun charge. Oh, he was foiled. An officer asked him to surrender the gun part and he refused. So he got charged with obstructing a police officer. That wouldn't be an avenue for him to challenge the Firearms Act and also the

charges were dropped. So Hudson was back where he started. This was all part of a comedy of errors where Hudson was trying to get himself arrested for a Firearms Act related offense, but it just wasn't happening to the point where he was considering filing charges against himself. So we're straight into Wiley Coyote territory trying to take down. This is like if Wiley Coyote was trying to take down the Second Amendment. But I think it's worse because I think that there's an aspect of this

behavior that like really undercuts the point. It's like, oh, these gun laws are so oppressive. You can't get arrested trying to. Yeah. What are you talking about? Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, I don't expect Alex to wrestle with that angle of this.

No. Eventually on October 20, in October 23, 2003, he would successfully have a firearm seized, but again, he wasn't charged under the Firearms Act, just under the criminal code. Hudson tried to make this work and he attempted to raise constitutional challenges, but they all failed at which point he asked the court to charge him with a crime he could use. Oh my God.

Oh, dude. Yeah. He also runs a group that Alex referenced called the Canadian Unlicensed Firearms Owners Association, and I would assume that any self-respecting gun weirdo militia type would see that name and immediately assume it's either run by an idiot or it's a honeypot. Absolutely. There's no way I would like to join the Canadian Crime Committers join gang.

Yes. That sounds like a good idea. Please put my name on the list. Would you also like my home address? It's so tough. Jesus Christ. Yeah. So anyway, this guy's fun.

Wild. Um, yeah. So he comes on and Alex is real pumped about how like, man, we're going to overturn these gun laws in Canada. It's going to happen. You and me, buddy. 20 years later. It's going to happen.

Dr. Hudson, tell us about Canadian Unregistered Farms Owners Association because it's coming down to the point now where we're Canadians across the board are saying, in fact, I've read the articles, even in your own mainstream papers, that this is about the government trying to dominate you and that this is about controlling law abiding citizens. People are finally getting it. That's exactly correct. What we've been saying for 10 years, what gun owners have been saying up here

for 10 years is there's not a criminal anywhere in the world who's registered their firearm or license themselves. This is not about criminal control or crime control. It's about, uh, controlling its citizens. Uh, our group as a small group, uh, you have to understand that, that membership in our group is, is completely open. Our membership list is open to the government. Anyone who is a member knows that, uh, that their name, address, telephone

number is going to be completely open to the government if our membership role is, uh, is confiscated. So no one joins this group without knowing that they're going to be completely open to the government. That sounds like, that sounds like gun registration almost pitch. Is this pitch saying if you aren't licensed to read, or if you aren't registered to own a gun and you have a gun, sign up on this list. So the government will know you have a gun.

Right. Well, it's, yeah, it's at least, uh, yeah, it kind of makes, kind of makes, uh, it easy for the government to know where these unregistered guns are. It really does. It really does. It's kind of helping. You know, and it's almost like if people were aware that way, when they

were signing up to this website, that if they then committed a crime, a crime with a gun that they would know that the gun was unregistered, um, you could have just registered. True. This is counterproductive and dumb. It's very, very dumb. So we get into the secession stuff and Alex is into it, but turns out this guy, the Canadian guy, isn't really that into it.

Oh, he loves Canada. It's not really his thing. I was to reform Canada. James, you guys have really gotten the momentum going. There's a lot of talk about secession. Uh, if some of these provinces broke off, we could have a new free country. Couldn't we? There's that type of talk in Alberta.

Uh, that's a little bit beyond my scope and expertise, but I've certainly been to many, many gun, uh, gun shows in Alberta. And I certainly stood the side and talked to people in Alberta who are talking about the Alberta separatist party, Alberta separating. I know that that's happening. I am not a part of that group. I am focusing on peaceful, nonviolent civil disobedience to a specific, very unjust law here in Canada.

It's a really weird way he phrased that. That is, I stood next to next to some people who have talked about it. I have, I have been in the company of those people. Uh huh. It's not my bailiwick, but, uh, I have, uh, I shared it. I shared a joint with a man trying to get rid of Alberta. I would never do that. Now, an important thing to point out, and I don't think that this is any,

anything super meaningful outside of coincidence, but the Maverick party, the Alberta separatist, uh, secessionist party was deeply involved in the roots of the trucker protest in the present day. Naturally. So you kind of see, well, I don't, I don't think that all, uh, folks, I mean, there's, there's all kinds of, uh, differing ideas about some secession ideas in Canada, whether it be from First Nations, sure, uh, folk, or, or from weirdos who want guns and, you know, a right wing utopia.

But, uh, it is, it is interesting that the fingerprints here of secession arguments that Alex is really into in the past and in the present are both, uh, the Alberta separatist groups. Yeah. I think we're really putting together a good case for, and I'm going to throw this out at you. Okay. So like, and here's what I'm learning.

If you don't want problems to be worse 20 years later, you should take care of problems in the present. It's, it is true that leaving things that doesn't usually take care of that. Yeah. I'm really starting to think you might be able to ignore them a little bit. If you ignore them, right, right, right. And maybe that feels like they're resolved. It feels like they went away.

Generally not. Well, then they came back and it'll usually be worse. It'd be way worse. So one good piece of news for unregistered gun owners, association owner and Hudson, yeah, is that the cops are all on his side. Oh, of course they are. I'm reading that a lot of police are actually on your side and clear. Where are you reading that?

He's reading most of the rank and file police are on our side. And I would say up to 70% again, I don't want to get into numbers game or something that I can't back up, but certainly. So I'm going to go with a low number like 70% file police officer supports. Well, they know they're safer when you're armed. They know that places, yeah, places like New York where you can't own a gun. That's where the cops get killed. Exactly.

Most police shows and a lot of movies are set in New York. So it's really understandable that if you base your worldview on movies and pop culture, you would think that cops in New York are just getting killed all the time. In reality, Texas has the highest number of police killed per year pretty regularly. In 2016, they were number one with 18 police killed in the state and the line of duty with the next highest state being California with 11 and then Louisiana with nine. The entire state of New York had four officers killed in the line of duty that year. When you adjust for population, New York isn't even anywhere near the top

of the list. A 2016 study conducted by researchers at Harvard found that in reality, the likelihood of a cop being killed in the line of duty was three times higher in states with high rates of gun ownership compared to states with low rates. Yep. Alex feels like officer deaths in the line of duty must be lower in states with more guns because he wants that to be the truth because he wants it to be true. He feels like it is. And therefore it is true.

This group gets repeated over and over to his audience and they accepted his truth, despite pretty clear evidence that it's just based on Alex's feelings. Yeah. Also, by far the leading cause of death among police in the last few years has been COVID. And we've seen how seriously Alex has dealt with that and how much he's cared. Yeah. So go fuck yourself.

And we've seen how much the cops care. That is true. Yep. But, you know, I don't think that he cares about the underlying issue as much as he does. It just wants a lot of guns. Yeah. Yep. Yeah.

Yeah. So this guy, this Hudson fella, he also said something that Alex should probably take issue with, but he, but Alex doesn't because I have Wi-Fi. Anything else you'd like to add about this subject of limiting and freedom and what you're, what you're disposing of trying to do there in Canada, Dr. Hudson? I would like to take the opportunity to say to your listeners that, as you said in your introduction, the people of the United States need to wake up the, the

forces that are in play here in Canada that, that won't to take over our rights and freedoms. I'm not talking about an international conspiracy. I'm just talking about left leaning type of people who, who won't to travel on our rights, who want to take our freedom away from us. No, no, no, we are talking about an international experience. Always, you're in Canada. I'm in America.

The only reason we should be talking about each other is because it's an international conspiracy. I'm pretending to be a love the left, right paradigm. It's an international conspiracy. Come on the left. It's an international conspiracy. No. So that's the, uh, that's the end of their interview.

And, um, I mean, we're in 2022 and this guy is not overturned. Canada's gun laws yet to he's on, he's still working on it. I'm sure he's got time. Yeah. So here's just a nice clip of Alex enjoying his life in a way that he probably can't anymore. Okay. Well, then to a burning ring of fire, I went down, down, down and the flames

went higher and it burns, burns, burns the ring. I want to play that Elvis song. Looks like an angel talks like an angel walks like an angel, but I got wise. She's a devil in disguise because that's exactly what this whole government is. Yeah, man. Oh God. Yeah. That's the shit.

Mm hmm. That's the shit. It takes me back to passing a blunt around and man, that is, that is the other side of not having a boss though. You know, like the side that we live in now is the bad side where nobody is stopping you from being a weird monster, screaming about demons. Right. And you'll end up doing things that lead to consequences that are probably

things that bosses would have. Curb. Yeah. They would curb that kind of behavior or punish you for. Yeah. Yeah. Or fired you. Yeah.

But this, this is the good side. This is the shit where it's like, fuck it. I'm, I'm listening to music right now. Yeah. Who's going to stop me? Oh, it's a news show. I'm the news. Yeah.

And the news is what music I want to listen to. Yeah, I got some news for you. Yeah. The government is the devil in disguise. Hit it. Hit it. Drop the needle. There's never a bad time for a hit it.

Yeah. So, uh, Alex goes back to calls and this fellow believes that, uh, the Amber Alert system is a conspiracy. Mm hmm. So that's fun. Here we go. The Amber Alert system, it occurred to me when I first started to see those stories on TV that they were following that story so closely.

It's like, there's no way they could have been on the scene and following it so tightly unless they knew what was going to happen. But yet when you see the same thing overseas, it's like, oh, we don't know what happened. We weren't there. We didn't get to cover that, you know, but all the details were all there when they started to introduce the Amber Alert system. Well, this is what we're going to use now because this poor little girl

and God bless her, you know, whatever happened. I'm sorry. And it just so happened that that same year, the FCC law was passed that already, oh, and TV stations had the EAS FEMA takeover boxes, remote control federal boxes, put into them. And the federal plans said it's EAS and they said for PR, we're going to call it Amber and make it mandatory for the little kids. Yeah, that's totally playing off of our good nature.

You know, the general, I think in general, good nature of the ignorance, you know, the, and the ignorance of citizens, you know, they want to introduce this and go, look, yeah, that's what empowered Hitler was. Good job. Obviously. Man, I mean, people say, how did the Germans do it? How did they do it? Well, because they were saps.

I wish they could have gotten to the people who perpetrated 9-11 as fast as they did to the Malvo people. All those guys who shot up, you know, as quickly as they got to them. Well, bottom line, they're not going to put themselves in jail. So this caller has decided that the Amber Alert system is a conspiracy and he's doing a spectacular job of explaining his position. Prohibition me.

I don't know what he's talking about. They couldn't have done it if they hadn't already known that they'd done it. I guess all these kidnappings or whatever are false lies. Absolutely. I don't know. Yep. So I'm not so much interested in that as I am in his desire for the 9-11 hijackers to have been caught as quickly as Lee Boyd Malvo, who was one of the DC

snipers. He and John Allen Muhammad were on a shooting spree that lasted from February 2nd, 2002 until October 24th. That's a full nine months that they were at large and 22 days of that involved sniping in DC. Yeah. That's a long time. Yeah.

It's not the example I would have chosen for like a speedy, you know, there are crimes where like you do it and then like an hour later you get arrested. You should have chosen one of those crimes. Sure. I mean, almost any crime, particularly like a violent crime, large scale, I think you probably, I mean, if the case gets solved at all, a lot of time is quicker than nine months. I mean, you wouldn't, I wouldn't use it.

I also don't think that it was much more than like the time of the DC sniping that went on. Like I don't think that that timeframe is much shorter than the period of time from when Bush got the memo, been a lot in determined to strike in the United States until September 11th. Yeah. That wasn't that much more than like a month before that was in August. Yeah.

So like, I don't, I don't, I don't know what this guy's saying. I got nothing. He confuses me mostly because that's a bizarre choice of like a notoriously long terrorizing thing that happened. Yeah. I don't, I don't feel weird. That, that had the vibe of a YouTuber like now, like a YouTuber doing that. It almost sounded like John Bowne report kind of level of random.

I don't think John Bowne's allowed on YouTube. Oh, that's fair. So Alex has more music thoughts and they found this really, really funny. That's right. And they've got some new country song and didn't buy Daniels, but it's about we got a lot of gang members and a lot of troublemakers and terrorists put them in the camps, blow their heads off. We're cowboys.

Give us whiskey and bear for horses. Put everybody in camps. We're for America kill everybody. Kill the criminals. Hang them high time up in the swamps. Death, death, death, camps, camps, camps. I mean, it's like this rap country song I hear every time I turn the radio on. I don't even know who the group is.

I wrote it down, but left it in my truck. Alex seems to not know that's Willie Nelson. It's Toby Keith and Willie Nelson's whiskey for my men beer. Oh, that's what he's talking about. No, shit. He said he's just one thing. You should always find you've got to settle up your boys. You've got to draw hard line when the gun smoke settles.

We'll sing a victory tune and we'll all head back to the local saloon. We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces. We'll sing and whiskey for my man beer for my horse. It'lls. Oh boy. Yep. All right. Do Willie Nelson has a line about get all the rope in Texas. Find a tall oak tree. Hang up all them bad boys for the people to see.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so like, I think that Alex is responding to that. I don't know if that song includes put everybody in case. I mean, I think the I think the funniest part is that that is closer to the song that Sasha Baron Cohen did making fun of people like Alex. Yeah. I don't know if Alex is conflating this to with like Toby Keith's courtesy of the red, white and blue, maybe. But that doesn't mean anything to do with camps.

Well, I mean, I'm going to throw this out there as far as music knowledge goes. Jingoistic country music, not on my list. You don't know courtesy of the red, white and blue. I don't know any jingoistic country music. That's the one where it's like, we'll put a boot in your ass. It's the American way. Nothing. Hey, Uncle Sam, put your name at the top of his list of the Statue of Liberty started shaking a fist and an ego will fly and it's going to be hell.

When you hear mother freedom start ringing a bell and really feel like the whole wide world is coming down on you. See, now this is why it's brought to you courtesy of the red, white and blue. And I love white people. I do. And I just don't think they should be allowed near music. And I think that's been borne out by all of human history. Look, I grew up in central Missouri. There's a fair amount of Toby Keith and a fair amount of karaoke.

And it is what it is. I would be wrong if I didn't say that I saw my buddy, Nikki Gifts, singing courtesy of the red, white and blue a lot. You did a good version of it. All right. Good, good, good rendition. Good for him. I think we might have dueted whiskey from my man. Yeah, that would make sense.

Yeah, it's a great, great classic. Toby Keith, Willie Nelson's also at this point, I think Alex is still like idolizing Willie Nelson. Yeah, so that's that seems weird. Yeah, he should have recognized his voice. Should have jumped on that one. Yeah, he's very distinctive voice quite. And it was kind of a big deal that he and Toby Keith kind of buried the the

yeah, generational passing of the torch. Not really. No, but Alex has not gone to a ton of his news and we're coming up to the end of the show and he realizes that. And it you know, it is like trying to force the amount of information that you have in a water hose, a fire hose under pressure. Thousands of gallons every few minutes. It's like trying to force that through the straw you stir your coffee with. I could take one of these articles.

Dr. David Kelly, I've probably read a hundred stories on it. Read his emails, listen to the accounts of his family, obviously murdered. I could talk for hours about Connellisa Rice caught in new lies. I could spend hours about how the agenda between Hillary and Bush is identical. I could spend hours about the control grid, the police state. I could spend hours about this new 911 report and the omission of the Saudi Arabia stuff. It's just they're a pack of murdering criminals, bottom line.

He could do a lot of things. He could. He's not doing any of those things. Wow. I mean, he couldn't talk for hours about the David Kelly thing, because he's basically said his peace on. He doesn't really know anything more. He could just ramble about stuff, maybe true. I saw the Arabia stuff he already talked about at the beginning of the show very briefly and dismissed out of him.

So I don't know if he could talk about that for hours. Why would he? Maybe he could just not about that. Not about the truth nonsense. I don't I don't know. I mean, I grow weary of like I could have done this. You could and you can. You have a show. No one's telling you anything. Right. What? What did you?

What did you do instead? And you sang you whiffed a fucking interview with a construction guy thinking it was going to be awesome. You talked to a Canadian weirdo who's trying to get all the unregistered gun owners to sign up for his organization, create a list of unregistered gun owners. And it wasn't even an international conspiracy. Oh, God, brutal.

Yeah, it's just if you could, you should. And you got it because what you're doing could you should. So we have one last clip here and it's sort of Alex's his trademark headline wrap up at the end of the show. He goes it goes over some of the headlines. Some of me talked about some of them. He didn't. Some of me doesn't have time to get to because

he's run out of time. There's another article revealed the secret cabal, which spun for Blair and the British police. They now found out her part of some secret society. I'm out of time, folks. But before I end this hour, you heard the caller last caller, John and Pennsylvania talk about road to tyranny. Got time for a plug.

So that article isn't about the police being in a secret society, but Alex thinks that because he's just skimming headlines and he saw the word cabal. It's about allegations that there was a team called Operation Rockingham, which cherry picked reports to emphasize the argument that Saddam was not in compliance with proliferation rules. This is a UK group. These allegations were made by a former UN weapons inspector from the United States named Scott Ritter.

But this isn't a proven claim. And there's been actually many objections to it. Like Rockingham does exist, but the claim that their purpose was to cherry pick Intel. That's not established. Right, right, right. It hardly matters, though, because Alex hasn't read this story. He has no idea what he's talking about. And even if he did, he doesn't have time to get into another story

because he's got to try and sell his DVD before the show ends. So he skims the headline, sees the word cabal, and decides to tell his audience a completely made up story that the news is reporting that they uncovered a secret society in the British police force. Again, I'm a broken record. I understand that. But this is acceptable to Alex. He's fine reporting completely fabricated stories because he doesn't care.

It is it is never not astonishing that a man could just read a headline and then be like, and in the UK, they've discovered that there is a cult of cops out there. Coptic, you know, there's just doing this whole thing. And it's like, no, you just this is what I this is what I have decided. These words I read. Exactly. Absolutely. It's like a writing prompt. It's like a creative writing prompt.

And he gets one every time he looks at the paper. And then he just spins a yarn. Yeah. And it's not, you know, you know it intellectually, you know it. But your entire life has trained you to believe that if somebody is standing at a desk, looking into you, reading off of the news, then they have to at least have something like something close to have read the words. You would hope you'd hope they'd have that standard.

And then the other thing that you project onto those people is that they would feel bad about getting things completely wrong and just making shit up. At the very least would be embarrassed or worried about consequences or anything. Somebody would laugh at you. Right. Yeah. And no, it's not. Nope. It's not the case for him.

He just does not give a shit. Yeah. Let's it all hang out there. Yep. And then again, like the real essential point is you have to understand the way Alex filters information from a source through himself to the audience and recognize how unreliable of a delivery mechanism this is. You can't trust what's coming out because sometimes it might be a thing that he understands.

Sometimes it might be something he made up from skimming a headline and you have no idea which is which. He report he sounds exactly the same no matter which of these things it is. He could be talking about how, hey, I believe that the First Amendment allows for writing on an American flag. That's probably something he's thought about. Sounds exactly the same as him reporting that there is an undercover secret society in the British police force based on this headline that has nothing to do with that.

And that's a dangerous, dangerous kind of person to be disseminating information. Yep. That's that's my point. You got it. Now that is where you put a period, my friend. Well, I also have some more thoughts about Toby Keith. Oh, that is where you are going to keep that period, my friend. Fine.

But yeah, hey, we've reached the end of this and I think that obviously 2003 is just so much more fun. Absolutely. I mean, there's no world in 2020. You don't hear him singing much anymore. And you'd never in the present day going to hear him taking a long shot on interviewing construction. Absolutely not.

You're never going to find stuff like that. And it's just great. It's too good. Also spoiler alert. What? Alex announced that he has booked Charlie Daniels for a future show. Okay. Well, I guess we'll be in the past until then.

And Alex does not like Charlie Daniels. Charlie Daniels is too into the war. Okay, Alex might get into an argument. All right. Now I'm in great. Now I'm in. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about.

So I'm pumped for that. Anyway, we'll be back whenever you're back from your vacation. Indeed, we will. But tell them we have website. We do. It's knowledgefight.com. Yep. We're also on Twitter.

We are on Twitter at that knowledge underscore fight. And that go to bed Jordan. Yep. We'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. So dreamy, creamy.

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