Knowledge Fight - #68: September 19-28, 2015

Episode Date: July 31, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan about the 12th installment into what happened in 2015 to convince Alex Jones to join up with the Trump presidential campaign. Topics covered include: How much does Alex hate Pope Francis? How much does Alex actually know about Pope Francis? Did Plato say that Mars had a connection with Atlantis? Does Alex invite his personal trainer onto the show as a guest?

Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding. Hello, Alex, I'm a first-time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We are a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alexander Emmerich Jones. Indeed, there is, however, a twist that makes it an interesting thing to listen to.

That is true, that is not... I mean, otherwise, it would just be two assholes talking about lunatics. Like, let's not fuck around in the intro, we got a lot to get through to. Okay, fine, fine, fine. I know a lot about Alex Jones, you don't know anything about it. I don't know anything about Alex Jones. Let me ask you a question. What drink did you bring for us right now?

It's so hot in the shy out there, you know, in Chicago, in shy town, in the city of broad shoulders. Now you're taking your time. God damn it. The second thing. You hypocrite. It's so hot out, I thought we just needed something nice and crisp and refreshing. So I got us Ice Mountain Sparkling Raspberry Lime.

It's still a novelty beverage. It's just not weird. It's like homeopathic flavoring. Like, there's one part per billion of actual fruit flavoring in here. Maybe. Well, and last year was, it was the year of the fizzy beverage, the fizzy water for me. Oh yeah. And this, these Ice Mountain...

The LaCroix shirt. That's a little pedestrian, but there's a... You're an elitist for sparkling. It's bougie, you know, everyone's, you know, there's all these trendy assholes out there. Now they sound like Alex. Yeah, I was gonna say, you're getting in there. The line of Ice Mountain Sparkling waters are really good. They have an ice orange.

They have a black cherry. I think the Raspberry Lime is my favorite of them. Anyway, Jordan. That's some solid buzz marketing you just did. Some of my other favorite things are our new Donators. I'd like to give a shout out to our new Donator. What's up out there, Stephanie? I'm a policy wonk.

Welcome aboard the team. Hi, Stephanie. Good to see you. Also, like... I can't actually see you. No, you're blind. No, I'm basically blind. I'd like to give a shout out to our other new Donator.

What's up out there, Ian? I'm a policy wonk. Congratulations. You are both now policy wonks. Welcome aboard, Ian. And if you'd like to be a policy wonk yourself, please go to our website, knowledgefight.com, and click the Support the Show button,

and you will become a policy wonk. That's great. That's an excellent thing to be. It has changed a lot of lives. Absolutely. You've become so much more interesting at cocktail parties. Oh, of course. I know that this is my big selling point.

No, well, what I was gonna say is that it's cured cancer three or four times at least. Totally. Is that legal for us to say? Does it legal as any of Alex Jones's commercials? I don't think the FDA regulates podcasts. Or policy wonkery. So, Jordan, today we're going to be doing an investigation

deep into the past of 2015. Excellent. This is the 12th installment of the What the Fuck Happened to Alex Jones to get him to like Donald Trump investigation. Which is like five more than we ever would have expected from 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,000 This is going to be so, so quick.

Oh, God, it's so bizarre. Today's investigation will be covering the period of September 19th, 2015, up until September 28th. And the reason is I have this discrete period is a narrative evolves over this period of time. And we'll discuss exactly what it is. Fuck it. I'll just tell you.

All right, all right. And it will lead. We're going to cut this one short, then. You got somewhere to be. This will lead to two out of context drops that I will play immediately after this. The reason that this chunk of time I have separated out into this phase of the investigation,

it's not because Alex Jones changes his mind about Trump. Spoiler alert. He still doesn't endorse him at the end of this. How? But the Pope comes to America. Excellent. So this almost entire week, while he's in the Pope Mobile, he's having a gay orgy, right?

Absolutely. According to Alex Jones, that's exactly what's happening. At the very least, he's actively covering one up. So the Pope comes to America. And Alex Jones dispatches Jacari Jackson and David Knight. And they just, like they're following the Grateful Dead, they follow the Pope around the country. That's fantastic.

Giving like weird field reports about how globalism is on the march. And they're only bringing the Pope in because they're making their move. So I don't. Wait, they're on tour with the Pope arguing that he's killing everybody? Yeah, basically.

They go to like New York, Philadelphia, all the cities that the Pope makes stops in. Jacari and David give little field reports from. This would be a great time. If this was visual, we would have to put up one of those graphics where it's like the little plane hopping from city to city or a little tour bus.

Info wars only raised a million dollars in there. Money bomb. They can't afford that graphic. Oh, yeah, that's true. So I've cut it. It's moving. I've decided it's not worth our time to cover most of the stuff that Alex Jones says about the Pope

because I can distill it down to these two out of context drops that basically sum up where Alex's head is with the Pope. Here's the first one. I can't help it. I had a headache. I was upset until I called the Pope a devil. We're not so better. So calling the Pope a devil worshiper is like a reverse Jesus.

It's like a spring. It relieves whatever ails rather than rather than a holy man laying hands upon you. You calling him a devil worshiper will heal your wounds. I was feeling like shit. Then I called the Pope a devil worshiper. I feel great now. That's fucking fantastic.

So here's the other one. Is that all we had to do this whole time? Here's the other thing. I'd be a great health care bill. Oh, yeah. Just say shit about the pope. Just say shit about the pope. Ma'am, I've just been desensitized.

I mean, a lot of celebrities and stuff is really quite boring. And my heart rate wouldn't even go up talking to the pope. Yeah, cool, cool, cool, cool. So I mean, that's basically that. You know, I've met a Kardashian. I've met the pope, but it's all the same. They're spiritual leaders. It's all the same shit.

So those two clips, I think sum up a lot of his positions about the pope. I mean, besides calling him a rank globalist and pedophile and stuff like that, he calls him a devil worshiper. And then the second clip he's expressing, I don't think it's all that important to me. To me, I wouldn't be impressed. So I like how we're so far into Alex Jones' world

that we're saying, you know, besides the regular, he's a globalist and a pedophile. Don't worry about that. That's lame. That's lame. He doesn't like him very much like that. That's the liqour of Alex Jones' arguments. It's so pedestrian.

It doesn't even matter. Yeah. Hey, is it someone Alex doesn't like? They're probably gonna get called a pedophile. Yeah, we're looking for the unique ones. Right. In this, that's one of the sort of downfalls of this podcast.

I realize is that if people haven't listened back to a bunch of them, they're going to be like, why don't you care that he's saying these awful things? No, we've done this months ago. We're looking for outliers. We almost needed like Wikipedia sources cited on each one of our, here's why we're cool with just blowing by pedophiles.

Go back to episode three, minute 45. Honestly, I'm trying to build that into the website. Yeah, I know. Anyway, I'm going to go crazy. But be that as it may, let's jump in. I love, I love his, his, those two clips are such perfect Alex Jones shit because it is, he's a devil worshipper.

And also, you know, I don't even care. I don't even care. I'm spending hours talking about him on the show, but I don't even care about them. It's not that important. He's nothing to me. I'm Alex Jones, you know, like the obsession by I've been in major movies.

Yeah, exactly. Bullshit. So on September 19th, it's a Sunday and David Knight hosts the show. Yes. Alex Jones is out. September 20th, David Knight hosts again. So we're already two days into our investigation period

with nothing off our back. September 21st rolls around and I have made mention that Alex Jones in the last weeks of our investigation has been displaying many pro Putin and pro Russia opinions. Yes. And this trend does not stop now. The Russians are building at least three airfields,

one of them a forward airbase to deliver helicopters and air support with Marine forces as well as Russian Spetsnaz or Special Forces. And Spetsnaz just means Special Forces period in Russian, both Marine and Army Special Forces. This is an exclusive report in English language. It is only in the Russian news as of now or at infowars.com, top story infowars.com.

Russian Marines battle ISIS in Syria. ISIS militants attack Russian airbase according to Russian media. Russian Marines clash with ISIS in Syria on Sunday according to Russian media. During the fight, the Marines allegedly killed. And again, they're gonna print the article off and bring it in here.

And I'm gonna be able to break all that down for you. During the fight, the Marines allegedly killed several militants, that is migrants, and captured others in a racist action, I would add, according to CNN, I'm being sarcastic. During the fight, the Marines allegedly killed several of the peaceniks, I'm sorry. During the fight, the Marines allegedly killed

several militants and captured others. After ISIS attempted to attack the airbase. Right, but at least he's staying on target, I guess. He's reading it. News, services. Nobody's not, he's not staying on target. He's doing all these derivations into like, these are migrants, you know, this is a racist act.

I'm being sarcastic. I mean, within his capability, he was reading that from start to finish, and he had his little editorial thrown in there. But that was solid reading. It was okay. I would give him, if he was in my fifth grade lit class, I would give him a B.

I'd give him a satisfactory. No, that's a good one. So you might notice that he's saying this is an exclusive report, and it's from Russian media. Yeah, I was gonna say. You gotta be really careful when you're citing Russian media. Because of their non-freedom of the press.

Interesting. Because Putin has a long history of jailing, killing, attacking journalists, you have to be very careful what you believe that comes out of Russian media. Now I looked into this and checked the sourcing on Alex Jones's article that was on infowars.com. RT.

No, that would be too easy. That would be too easy. It goes back to a newspaper, and I'm being very generous, it's a tabloid, called Sevadonia. And this is a Ukrainian pro-Russian tabloid. Oh, that's not good. No. They are most notable for being in firm support

of the prime ministerial candidate, Viktor Yanukovych, who was the head of Ukraine, who has deep ties to Paul Manafort. Who woulda guessed? Manafort was his campaign manager, and got paid millions of dollars in order to install Yanukovych into power in Ukraine. Really?

Yes. Dude, don't we have like handcuffs or something? Can we just handcuff these people? Just like. Apparently not. I don't understand how there's not like clear, like this is bad. Right, so.

I mean, I guess we don't have laws to protect against this because people just have this weird assumption that deep down humans are good. Like that's our failing. That is a problem. The founding fathers were like, well, at least we know they'll love America. Like they completely forgot that people hate everybody.

Yeah, so beyond that, beyond just this paper being a tabloid propaganda outlet in favor of pro-Russian interests in Ukraine. Yeah. Also in 2011, the paper's journalists threatened to go on strike after chief editor, Ihor Guzhava, was controversially fired and his replacement censored certain types of stories

and dictated to journalists how certain politicians and public figures should be covered. Their journalists went on strike and that got resolved. But even after that, they put in new editorial board members who insisted on favorable coverage for certain politicians. And that has continued to this day. That was from 2011. Alex Jones is citing an article from four years after this.

Right. Sevadania has been criticized for their favorable positions towards certain candidates. And the newspaper has been accused of publishing forged documents. Thank God, that only happens over there. Thank God, that's only over there in that part of the world.

Thank God, thank God we've never, oh, those backwards as Russian. So Alex Jones is citing a story that's pro-Putin positive Russia coverage that is being put out by a Ukrainian pro-Russia propaganda tabloid. That's a problem. That's a massive problem.

And it informs so much of his stances that he's starting to take. He's starting to lean pretty hard into a pro-Putin mindset, which is bizarre because it's happening even before he gets on board with Trump. So all of this stuff that's happening in 2017 where he's like, there is no Russian collusion.

This is all bullshit. It starts to become possibly a thing where he has even more hypothetical allegiance to Putin than he does to Trump. I'm not saying that that's absolutely the case, but I'm saying it's starting to look a little bit like that. In as much as he believes that Putin is ultimately the one who's trying

to take on the globalists. I see that. I think if I was going to venture a where does his loyalty lie candidate, I would say they're the info wars of Ukraine. Right. He's more like, likes, like that kind of a thing. As opposed to actually,

I don't think he actually believes anything about Putin other than Putin is a great man. Like if you ascribe to the great man theory of history, you're like, well, Putin's great. Like undeniably, he's a big dude. I think that you are making a decent point, but I want you to put a pin in it until the end of this episode.

Okay. And even this next clip. You always make arguments with more information than I do. And then I'm fulfilling my role and you're like, listen up, big dummy, wait until the end. That's kind of the show. I know a lot and you don't know anything. That's a good point.

So listen to this next clip and see what you think. They're now openly announcing the plan to break Syria into three parts as well. And Russia understands this is about taking their only warm water port there on the Mediterranean in Syria. They understand it's part of the March towards bringing down Russia. And again, I'm not saying Russia is perfect.

I'm not saying Russia is wonderful, but Russia is not on an offensive. Russia is not putting cancer viruses on our vaccines. Russia is not opening our borders. Russia is not funding ISIS. Russia is not pushing the world government. Russia is not trying to take my guns. Russia isn't on the news saying my kids belong to the state.

Our criminal illegitimate government is. So essentially there, what he's saying is that because our government has been taken over by these globalists that are doing all of these things he lists off, which they aren't doing. They're the bad guys and Putin is the good guy. Putin and Assad are the good guys in Syria. And that's something he's basically said before,

but he's. Yeah, that's such a weird, well, whenever he prays to Assad, that was a banana's situation there too. And Russia is hugely pro Assad. They're the main reason Assad is still around. Yeah. So I think he's couching that in this language of, we shouldn't be worried about foreign interests,

that kind of a thing. Don't you think? Like what he's saying there is, Russia is this guy, and I know they're not perfect and all that stuff, but don't worry about them. Worry about our illegitimate government doing all of this shit to us. That's kind of the angle I think he's either hiding behind

or actually trying to express. It's probably more the prior than the latter because I think he is hoping that, I mean, he's masquerading it as all Assad is doing is trying to stand up to these rebels, these ISIS rebels that are trying to take him down. And that's all Putin's doing too. When the reality is, I mean, if you read up on it,

there's a lot of indications that beyond just killing his own citizens, one of the things that Assad has really been trying to do is get Sunnis entirely out of the country, especially out of the portions of the country that are most important to him. And that's why refugees have been able to get out in his high numbers as they have,

is because Assad is totally cool with them just leaving the country. He's trying to get them out. It's not as much ethnic cleansing on a murderous level, although there is some of that. It's ethnic cleansing of his neighborhood, basically. And Putin is totally cool with that too, because you get them out,

it causes massive destabilization all over the place. So the idea that all they're doing is trying to protect their own position is lunacy. And that's what Alex Jones believes in order to make it so they are the good guys and we are the bad guys. The thing that is very frustrating about that is that he is, well, and they're all on the same narrative

of it's ISIS or Assad. When in reality, there is that third group who is trying to both fight off ISIS and Assad because Assad is murdering them and ISIS is murdering them. And the PR campaign through Assad, Putin, and now Alex is the rebels are part of ISIS. So that means that the legitimacy is only within Assad's government,

even though he's murdering everybody he knows. And unfortunately, as time goes on and as they don't get helped and the world seems to indicate that they don't care all that much, you do see some of these people who would be on the good side of things being driven to ISIS. They gotta go somewhere.

Yeah, in terms of radicalization, they're likely not going to side with Assad. And in the end, the only other alternative to their minds is- If you push out the rebels, or you put a narrative in that the rebels are bad, you're gonna wind up fucking everybody over. That's the trick. And that is what we've seen since 2015,

when Alex Jones is spitting this bullshit narrative. So let's jump off this train because we got something kind of fun. On this, the September 21st episode, Alex Jones has a little interview with our dear friend who we have reservations about but still like quite a bit, Jesse Ventura.

Hey! Jesse Ventura comes on and Alex Jones accidentally engages him in an argument about whether or not atheism is cool. He accidentally engages him on an argument about church taxation. Oh boy. It's all under the auspices of the idea that- I agree churches should be taxed highly.

I think it's a good idea for everyone to pay their fair share. That's pretty close to his position. Yeah. Well, I kind of instantly knew that. If Alex is frustrated arguing with him, that means they're gonna get taxed. Alex loses every single point in their argument and it's great.

But it's all based on the fact that the Pope is about to come to America. And so Alex wants to get Jesse Ventura on and talk shit about the Pope. Of course. Not realizing Jesse Ventura is not gonna play that game. No. Because Jesse doesn't care about the Pope.

Here's the first clip where Jesse expresses exactly what he thinks about the Pope. Get out of that mobile and get into the ring. I like this Pope, but you know, I'm ready to go out and see him with a big sign. Atheist for the Pope. All right. You know what?

You know what? Why do you like this Pope? Because you like open borders? No, I like this Pope because he said I can go to heaven. That's a solid reason. That's a solid reason. On what subject was that? No, the Pope said atheists can go to heaven.

Well, I understand that you were made to go. And I love it. I have a chance now, you know? And because he's the highest there is and he says that I can go. Well, here's a good person. Here's why I stand on the whole atheist deal. I get people that can say,

hey, I don't believe in an imaginary guy in the sky. I believe in science. I believe when I can empirically see. Separately though, humans only see a tiny spectrum of reality. They've proven dark matter. They've proven other dimensions. So many scientists that were atheists

get into the genetic engineering realm and go, my God, something made this. What? Most scientists do not believe in evolutionary theory now, but it's its own religion, governor. What? But then again, what about these guys? They just found lately.

This latest ancient humanoid in Africa? Yeah. They walked upright. They buried their dad. Crepey looked like a monkey to me. Well, that's offensive. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Take a laugh.

Take a laugh. So big. Yeah, totally. But not Jesse's. Jesse's is real. Let me be clear. I think Jesse's high. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

I think you might be high. Because there's a couple points where he just starts laughing like that. Oh man, it's great. That's fantastic. So let's get to Alex's response. Oh yeah, the gorilla. I mean, he didn't look like my neighbor

or anything. He looked pretty different than me, but yet he looked humanoid, half monkey and he walked upright and he buried his dad and all this stuff. I mean, let's remember something, Alex, that whenever man cannot explain something, it's real easy then to attribute it to God.

My only issue is so many atheists, and you're not like this, but so many atheists hate people that are religious and act like they're, oh, I know a lot of atheists do. Well, Alex, atheists don't hate anybody. We just don't believe in that there's a, we hate a lot of people.

There's a person you talk to and you know that we don't hate nobody. You can believe what you wanna believe. If you wanna go worship a tree, just don't force it on to me. So Alex has done a terrible job rebutting anything that Jesse says. Jesse brings in the new archeological find

of a homo sapien type creature. Yep. That it sort of invalidates a lot of Alex's arguments, but this is- Yeah, you don't hear the where's the missing link argument too much from creationists anymore. No.

Where's the missing link? Oh, well, that one. God! The problem with the idea of the missing link is the idea that there was one. Yeah, exactly. There's a bunch. It's an entire,

if you don't believe in evolution, fucking go, go away. The idea that he's saying that most scientists don't believe in evolution anymore is nonsense. It's the same thing that he says, like most of them don't believe in climate change. It's just making an assertion that doesn't- That is backed up by nothing.

But if all you read is weird Ukrainian tabloids and Breitbart and stuff like that, you might get the perception that the rest of the world doesn't believe these things. It's possible. Ukrainian scientists aren't some sort of weird outlier. No, but I'm saying that your media diet- Turkish scientists might be

because he killed all of the good ones. Or incarcerated them. Yeah. I don't know. I'm just saying that your media diet will dictate what you think is normal. And I think Alex Jones' media diet sucks. The Vox newsification of life.

Yeah. The Vox news is becoming info wars light. Oh yeah. So we- Oh boy. Congrats. Have fun. So this next clip, this is really fun for me

because Alex Jones brings up the idea of I shouldn't have to pay for anchor babies, which Jesse Ventura responds, why do I have to pay for churches? And Alex Jones tries to respond to that forgetting that Jesse Ventura used to be the governor of a state. So he knows-

That's in his defense. It is easy to forget because there's still a part of your brain that goes, wait, what? Yeah, I know. Jesse Ventura was a governor? Yeah. He was a governor and a mayor. And so like he has a very intimate knowledge

of these sorts of things. And Alex does not. So listen to this clip. It's so fun for me. How badly Alex Jones loses. Why do you keep having Jesse Ventura on your show? He just owns you. He keeps humiliating you.

He just owns you the whole time. Don't force me to pay for abortion and don't force me to pay for the pope. Well, if the leader of Russia came here, would we provide security for him? I don't think it needs to be the biggest security in history, no. And that's a foreign leader, not a religious leader.

We have a separation of church and state. Excuse me. There's more Catholics in the world than there probably is in one country. No, absolutely. There's probably 800 million Catholics or more. See, I understand, having been in government, Alex, I understand the pomp and circumstance

and I understand what they do and why they do it. And it's called just proper respect. And it's this and that. Now, if you wanna, well, then I got one for you, Alex. Why do churches get by tax-free? Because Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion or prohibit the free exercise thereof.

Congress has no jurisdiction. No, but they get the same benefits that I get. I'm an atheist, I have to pay more, yet the church gets its streets plowed, the church gets fire protection, the church gets police protection, doesn't pay a thing for it. They don't pay taxes.

We should all be treated equally. Wait, sounds like you're talking about illegal aliens now. And then you got these guys out there that claim to heal people and all that. They call themselves a church. And it's done strictly to avoid being taxed on anything. I think all churches should be taxed. Well, and it even says in the Bible,

Jesus said, let Caesar have what Caesar's. Get him, get him! Well, that was a question of taxation of the church. And he was saying clearly that that's Caesar's currency, whose face is on it. So that's his system. So I get what you're saying there. But in our system.

Well, as an atheist, why should churches not play property taxes? They receive all the benefits. Sure, let me answer the question for you. Because Thomas Jefferson of the Left loves so much. Sure, let's hear this. The idea of separation of church and state. That means as an individual,

you can say or do whatever you want in government buildings or government finance facilities like public schools. That is not what that means. That's the opposite of what that means. That's the opposite of what it means. That's the opposite of what it means. Discriminatorily, and that Congress has no authority and can make no law respecting the establishment of religion.

That's also not true. We're having the free exercise there. So we'll get back to it really quick here, but I wanted to pause because he keeps saying that the establishment of religion or the free exercise thereof. He's talking about the First Amendment. When we talk about Alex Jones being like this kid

who read adult books and didn't understand what he was reading and didn't integrate the information, I think he has the same understanding of the First Amendment. Because he keeps just rattling that off and then misinterpreting what it means. He has the rote ability to memorize pieces of passages and stuff like that

and can just recite them. But that's not what the free exercise thereof or the establishment of religion's portion of the First Amendment means. Right, it's like teaching a horse how to count. Can't really count. Well, it's the same thing with how he, whenever he cites biblical scripture.

Like he talks about the prodigal son thing and he completely gets the point wrong. Oh, that one was fun. He just memorizes stuff and then rattles it off without any ability to contextualize it. Not any ability to say how this applies to anything. And that's why you're gonna lose against Jesse Ventura. Cause he's coming to the ring with facts and experience.

Now let's get back to this cause Jesse's about to give him a body slam. Okay. That has nothing to do with taxing them. They're getting services, Alex, that I'm paying for. What about the illegals? The illegals get anchor babies for free. The illegals get all these services.

You're all for that. Oh, Alex, come on. The illegals get all these things. He almost said stupid. The illegals also pay taxes and don't file tax returns. How about that? How about Congress shall make no law with respect to the establishment of anchor babies

and the free exercise? You can pay all you want to benefit religion if you desire but take it the route then. If you're gonna use it on one hand, you have to use it on the other hand too. Well, I think you've got a really good point. Being is, how come I have to pay? You're claiming you shouldn't have to pay

for the pope to be here. I'm saying, well, how come I have to pay more taxes because churches don't? Well, it's obviously not fair from any perspective and let's just be clear because I not really talk about religion with you a lot. There is no one more critical of establishment churches and religions.

They're political whorehouses, they're frauds, they're jokes, they're con men, most of them, who want to be fake leaders who sit there and manipulate people and basically sell the equivalent of indulgences, boner pills. And I don't like that. We don't dare touch them because they're religion.

Because it's, or the press, or the people's right to assemble. It's the first amendment and I think it's a good thing. The problem is churches now are 501c3, they're now charities, governor, so they're not even really churches. Since when? The whole thing of religion is nothing

but a massive business. Ooh. Why shouldn't they be held to the corporate standards? They're no different. Religion's no different than a corporation. Well, I agree with you that churches should have to pay for local services and in most cases, they do pay the local taxes for fire and police.

They don't. I don't think that's true. They're off limits. You can't tax religion. Why not? You know, you've been a mayor and a governor and I don't know Minnesota laws, and I defer to your knowledge on this,

but I believe a lot of states, the churches do have to pay the fire fees and the property taxes and the rest of it to a certain extent, but I agree with you. I will check up on that before you make that statement. Well, I know it varies state to state. I've got a property taxes and churches don't pay property taxes. I know in a lot of states they don't

or they pay amended lower levels, but listen, I agree with you. Alex dances off that point after Jesse has completely destroyed it. Yeah. That comes out of property taxes, churches don't pay property taxes. I was a governor.

Yeah. I know these things. Yeah. Alex is, Alex is really struggling cause he's going back and forth between like, well, what about illegals? Even though that doesn't make any sense. And then he rattles off the first amendment

and that doesn't apply. Yeah. So he's just, because each, in each direction he's getting his ass beat. Yeah. He's trying to switch back and forth and it's just, Jesse has another punch coming from the other angle every time.

Yeah. He, I strongly disagree with Jesse Ventura's stance that the media was trying to destroy him with that, you know, American sniper case. That narrative that he was pitching months back, but now I love him. Yeah. He's, he's coming back on wrecked.

Oh yeah. The idea that like the first amendment means that we can't text churches. And Alex brings up like, I believe we protect journalists and journalists get text. Yeah. So. Yeah.

You never get that part of the first amendment, does it? If that's the argument he's trying to throw out there, that's, that's a poppycock. Yeah, done. So. And that's, that's the thing that Soma, if you are rattling around the first amendment,

chances are you don't know what it actually means. And chances are you're about to say something that, you know, you probably don't defend. Hey, you can't, you can't criticize me. I'm just exercising my free speech. You're, you're, you're dumb. You're dumb. So we have, we have one more clip of Jesse Ventura

before we get on to something really weird and it's great. He brings up the, we'll see. My problem is Jesse, is that they're turning the state and environmentalism and all this other stuff into religions as well. It's not just the Christians or other religious groups, classically, the, you know what I learned Alex too though, you got to check up on Horace.

What about Horace? Horace was Jesus 70 years, 700 years before Jesus. Well, I do know that they, No, his, his background, Oh, he's so high. He was born of a virgin. He lived with 33. He was a carpenter.

It's the entire same biography of a guy, commercial music. Yeah. Horace, who was an Egyptian religious figure. Horace was a guy. So it's awesome. It's music. You're saying the Bible is plagiarized.

Goodbye, Alex. No, I'm just saying that you might, there's two people with the same. There's two people that exist as allegedly. No, no, no. I know the rest was Roman guy with the same biography. I mean, I know about that guys. I'm in it.

I mean, I, I wasn't part of it, but I'm in the movie. So that's Alex's way of dismissing like historical facts. Like, yeah, we've all seen Zeitgeist. Yeah. All right, great. Great, great. I just love the humor of like, I know the guy behind the sound board was like,

all right, Jesse brought up Horace, long pause. Alex responds. What are you talking about? Jesse explains, long pause, we're going to break. We're going to break. Alex has got nothing. I got to get him out of this hole. He has a good support staff.

That's true. I think that's, they tend to play him off appropriately, unlike the Oscars. Yeah, absolutely. So we, this whole investigation, the whole reason we're back in 2015 is trying to figure out where Alex pivots to supporting Trump.

So we got to bring up, whenever he brings up something about Trump, here is Alex explaining that he still loves Rand Paul. Doesn't support Trump. Even though he's had his heart broken. Yep. But doesn't support Trump yet, but then it pivots into more pro-Russia rhetoric.

Weird. Yeah. Weird. And then another article, all Republican presidential candidates stand for war. I read that article and I agree with Roberts on most issues, but Rand Paul is not supporting war. So I'm a little bit,

a little bit confused by that, but almost all of them are. Now that is certainly a fair statement. And look, I've been critical of Rand Paul, only saying he should get more fired up. But if you watch that debate last Wednesday night, and we covered it live here during the 28 hour transmission, he's hands down the best candidate.

I mean, Trump's funny to watch. He's fun. He says a lot of stuff that's true, but it's just crazy. You know, talking about optics, I saw a story over the weekend about Vladimir Putin and Berlusconi, the former president of Italy,

in Eastern Ukraine in Crimea at a famous vineyard. And they opened up a bottle of thousands of bottles of wine that were there that was 210 years old. You can just type in Putin and Berlusconi in Ukraine probe for drinking Crimea wine. And this is a stunt they know, will reach out to the proletariat. Wait, what?

At the time that that bottle of wine was court, was produced, Russia fully controlled Ukraine and fully controlled Crimea. Wait, is there an argument that they're wine? That's not true. They're now claiming that Putin and Berlusconi stole a bottle of wine that was part of a PR stunt just promoting local Ukrainian wine.

Like, oh, we're here with the farmers. Yes, let's open some wine. Why, it's very old. And then they reduce it down to the ultimate crime, BBC, CNN, Fox News, Associated Press, Reuters, French news agencies that Vladimir Putin is there looting the Ukrainian wine. The globalist over through the country two years ago,

they put it into civil war. They appointed a government. They're bombing and shelling all over the country. The Russians have taken a small area that has their pipelines. Ooh. Wait, what? You shouldn't, you just, that's why.

You just told why. They've taken a small area, admittedly, worth billions of dollars, but it wasn't a big area. Right. If they didn't take real estate, they took resources. Oh, I shouldn't have said that last part. Oops. You shouldn't have said that last part.

That's fascinating. But then the other thing that I think is, I mean, we can just gloss over the fact that Alex just believes that everything that's bad is the globalists doing it. The globalists took over Ukraine two years ago. But again, that goes back to what we talked about on the last episode with the protocols

of the Elders of Zion. Right. The idea that these Zionists, their goal, is trying to make countries fight each other. And so in Alex's conception, they are the globalists and they go destabilize the Ukraine in order to attack Russia. Yeah.

Crazy. They destabilize Ukraine in order to retake it over? Maybe. I don't know. It's gray. I didn't understand the particulars of the Elders of Zion's plan and I really don't understand globalists, period.

Well, they're the same. But be that as it may, I think it's fascinating that Alex is talking about, you know, his feelings about Rand Paul and Trump and then has a thought and gets sidetracked into talking about defending Putin. It's weird. That is really weird.

I don't think it necessarily means anything. Why was he thinking about that though? Well, because Rand Paul needs to be visually more aggressive. And so he started to think about optics and he started to think about the way leaders present themselves and that got him on to thinking about how strong Putin is. But also, why does he even know that story?

It was a very minor story. Yeah, it's super minor. Yeah. Which means he's reading that. He's reading the Ukrainian Info Wars. That's what he's doing in order to get that story. I'm going to guess 100% that it's coming from pro-Russian media. Also, anytime Berlusconi's involved,

you know there's going to be a rampant theft of money. Right. There's going to be drinking. And they probably fucked somebody afterwards in a bus. That's the subtext. Berlusconi is the richest bang bus operator in history. That's exactly what he is. That's really what's more going on here.

The story is more about Berlusconi's case. Yeah, exactly. And it is about Putin. What's Berlusconi doing there in the first place? He's bored? Italy has a fascist history. He might as well lump them in. Well, I mean, he wasn't still president back then in 2015,

though. He had already been kicked out for all of the crimes. But he's super rich. Yes, he is super rich because of all of the crimes. Right. Speaking of crimes. What crimes? The Crimesia?

Alex Jones has a story about a crime that was perpetrated on a citizen by the police. Uh-oh. And you need to hear about this. But before you do, Alex does not make this very clear. This happened in 2000, I believe. The story he's referencing happened in 2000. So he's right on time.

It's 15-year-old news. Right. And let me just tell you, he's lying. And I will tell you the truth after this horrendous display of fake emotion. This is what needs to be done. I mean, we've got people going into men's barbershops saying, cut my hair, and then going and basically trying

to start government lawsuits, threatening $10,000 fines. Bullshit. And getting $700 fines. If you go, hey, lady, we cut men's hair. This goes back to a narrative we talked about on a past episode. Let's just glance past it. That's clearly not discrimination. It's what you do as a business.

At this point, it's how they operate. Did he just get a text message? At this point, Alex Jones is looking at his phone and taking a text message. Very professional. Just dead air. Oh, man. There's so much going on right now.

There's so much happening. That's how he comes back. And it makes my head spin. It absolutely makes my head hurt hard. Hurt so hard. Hurt so hard just to see videos like I have in my phone. He just got the good boy's phone numbers. 9-11, the road to tyranny that I made 14 years ago, 13 years ago, plus.

It was out within three months of 9-11. Quick work. And they pull lady over to the checkpoint in the middle of nowhere in Virginia. She's a naval veteran. No criminal record. Has canning equipment, the VHS tape of patriot games in her back seat. Poor woman. Harrison Ford, the Pachinic book with Clancy.

And they pull her over. She comes to checkpoint. They want to ask her questions. She says, you don't have a reason to have a checkpoint running. Are you looking for somebody in particular? And they go, no. She goes, then I'm not going to do it. So they drag her out of the car and they find the patriot games and they start

freaking out and getting scared. This is the word patriot. And it's like a satire piece. You can't believe they're acting this silly, this freaked out, this crazy. And then they flip out from there and get the banner in her trunk. And they find canning supplies. They think that's really evil. And then they find a pocket constitution and they go, oh my God, is this legal?

And then a supervisor comes and says, she may be allowed to have that. Maybe that's what she talks about, how she's got a constitution. That may be what she means. But look, we'll just take her to jail. And find out, is it legal? I don't know. Here are guys that have sworn an oath to protect and defend the Constitution, Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence.

It's the whole foundation of the country. And I'm not making fun of them. That's how they were talking on the squad car video. I aired on the radio like all 20 minutes of it in the film. There's like three or four minutes over and they're just like, oh, she got it. I found one of them, she's one of them extremists like the Klan or something. Boss, she got one. Yeah, that sounds like the accent that is against the Klan.

She's got a constitution. I mean, it was like they found a dead, mummified baby in her trunk. It's interesting. Alex is so full of shit about this story. I'm glad that that's the end of the story. And he read it off accurately. I'm sure there's no other information. There's no context for that at all.

It's purely a constitution in the trunk. She found a pocket constitution in the truck. That means she's in the KKK, right? This is about a lady named Abby Newman who was pulled over in a traffic stop in 2000 in West Virginia. She was driving without a license and she was searched. Her car was searched. I don't know about the official record containing any reference to a constitution or Patriot

games, but the official record does show that she had hollow point bullets in her car. Ooh. Cop killer bullets. Yeah, but those are the same thing as a constitution. That's the same thing. Yeah. There's a one, look, you can either have a pocket constitution or some cop killing bullets.

It's the same stuff. It means you know both. She accused. If you've read one, you know how to use the other. You know what I'm saying, Dan? In court, she decided to represent herself, which did not go well. She accused the officers of using excessive force on her. That was thrown right out because the videotape does not show any force and start to be charmed

by her. I'm starting to like her. What it shows is her being verbally abusive to the police and when they end up handcuffing her, she doesn't make any complaint that the handcuffs are too tight. There's no real grounds for her argument that they were treating her roughly or anything like that. But the most important thing is that they did find hollow point illegal bullets in her car.

Those are used to kill cops. They are used to kill armored animals when you're hunting. You're right. How else do you get through a turtle shell, Dan? I forgot that you need a hollow point to get the armadillos are everywhere in West Virginia. That's true. That can't be true. I forgot.

Also deer often do suit up. Oh, absolutely. They use Kevlar. I forgot about that. It's the first nation. They put, uh, they put flak jackets on him. So Alex's other argument is like these cops are being stupid and like, we found one, uh, that's an extremist.

Uh, she is very clearly a sovereign citizen. She is a member of the anti-government group. Uh, and I'm basing this on the fact that I'm, I'm reading this off, uh, from rowanoke.com article about her trial. She has got to be good. She has, I love it when the sovereign citizens go to court. She has also argued in the past that she believes the United States is controlled by the Federal Reserve Bank, which is run by Freemasons who obey the British monarchy.

She has also said that Federal Reserve Bank uses social security numbers and birth certificates as certificates of ownership of Americans. There we are. There it is. There's my favorite one. Later, she also held up a loaded ammunition clip during an interview and vowed she would never get arrested again. That's a threat.

So Alex Jones is trying to present it like she just has a movie and some canning equipment in her car. No, no, she is a part of a very scary fringe right wing organization, loosely knit organization. And how I know that she's a sovereign citizen is this piece that they, she believes that the Federal Reserve Bank uses social security numbers and birth certificates as certificates of ownership over Americans. That's the one we talked about earlier with maritime law and that bullshit how it's capitalized. The social security numbers that are created are in order to create debt in your name,

in your corporate identity as opposed to your personhood. Exactly. It's a very big part of the sovereign system. The problem is they use Times New Roman and we all know that that's a Roman font. They're not sovereign over the United States. You shouldn't use New Republic font, something along those lines. If it's Alex Jones, he's got to use Wing Day because he is nuts. So that's just a complete lie.

I mean, it's a lie about something that happened 15 years in the past, but a lie nonetheless to make the argument that the police don't even understand the Constitution. They hate the Constitution. No, they hate people who have hollow tip bullets driving around without a license and don't believe the government has any authority. That's a very reasonable disgust because cops have been killed by a lot of sovereign citizens. You took me, you took me on a little bit of an emotional roller coaster there. I was kind of on her side for a little bit.

I don't like cops either. Then you kept going. The hollow tip points. Not great. Don't like those. No. That's a bad sign. The clip being held up and saying, I'll never be arrested again.

Wild. No. Now I'm on the cop side for real. For sure. Yeah. So the other thing too is that this is just another further indication of any time Alex Jones does one of these voices. He's completely lying.

Yeah. Whenever he characterizes somebody with an affectation or whatever, he's making just shit up. Yeah. And he's even had the balls to be like, I'm not, I'm not making fun of these people. That's the sound of their voices. Right. And then immediately it goes back to, who should it, like it's a bad Adam Sandler voice.

Like that's what's going on. Yeah. Absolutely. So get this. You think that's sort of disrespectful to truth and integrity and journalism and cops. Right. You're not ready for what happens next. On the 21st, Alex Jones has conceptually my favorite guest of all time.

I don't like this guy at all, but the idea that he's on the show is awesome. Well now driverless pods are already hitting public roads. That's right. Ladies and gentlemen, and sex reassessment is latest company benefit in push for equality as they eagles of the food and water to further confuse the public sexuality, moving us towards an asexual system where, you know what, there can be no sexualism, there can be no culture of any type. Everything's just gray or you're offending someone else who would have ever thought that's

from Bloomberg business that they would actually now be saying ban the word mother and father, husband and wife, boy and girl. They're not. You see, it moves from accept everyone to rather be a man or a woman. That hurts somebody else's feelings. It's not tolerance. It's not like I'm tolerant of the, you know, LD leather daddy on South Park. It's that it's that in the future that'll be banned too, because it's hurtful of someone

who doesn't know lemmy links. I mean, this is my buddy, Pat sir, starting to joke around. I got to stop right there, bro. Pat and his wife are really good friends of mine. We go out and Barton Springs, you know, go out on the lake. You name it. Good friends of mine. He's also my personal trainer.

He's been gone for three and a half weeks every few years. Pat takes off for a few days for a few weeks and he should be telling you about his experience in Eastern Europe with the immigrants. Oh, I'm sorry. That's not the word I'm supposed to use now. The migrants, the refugees will be talking to Pat here in just a moment. Alex Jones has his personal trainer on as a guest to talk about immigrants. Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

Because he just went on vacation to Europe. He was personally training him in hatred and Krav Maga. So clearly these guys are bros. You can tell very clearly you can tell by the fake laughing and Alex Jones thinking they're having a like messing around. I reference. Lemmy Winks. Yeah.

So this guy is a dick. Like Alex Jones is a dick, but this guy brings out so much dickishness and Alex Jones that I wish I had fucking audio of their training sessions. Yeah. Because Alex is not getting healthier. He doesn't look good. So they can't be. They can't be doing a good job.

No, but what they have to be doing is just blowing out so hard about bigotry. It's got to be. And I love those tapes because you know, you start getting a little bit of exercise in you. Testosterone kicks in and you're just like, oh God. And this comes out in their interview. Just bench press that Muslim. Just push him out.

So push him out of this country. The entire interview is essentially about how when he was overseas, Alex Jones's personal trainer saw a lady with some kids who were asking for money outside of a hotel. And there was a guy who was allegedly this lady's husband who was threatening to jump if they don't get enough money because they can't afford to get wherever they need to go or feed their children. So which is terrible, especially when you read the stories now of the one that just happened.

The one that just happened where that was literally the thing that happened. Yeah. But they left suicide notes and jumped off a fucking building because they had medical bills they couldn't pay. Right. Or the guy or the guy who tried to steal a dollar from the bank to get health care. Jesus nuts. So the other thing is I believe that this probably was a scam, but there are a lot of scams

that people do. Alex Jones is running a massive one. Yeah. So like the idea that people who are in desperate situations are going to run cons is not really a blight on immigrants. Now what they should be doing is running money bombs. Absolutely. That's what they should be doing.

They should. They could get a million dollars that way. They paint this as just proof that you can't fucking trust these brown people. They just run these fucking scams. Not considering like this is a really extreme version of a scam. This guy is threatening to jump off a building. Now he's probably not going to do it, but just the fact that you have to bring suicide into the equation, that's much different than like running around in like chicklets.

Yeah. You know, I don't know. I mean, you can wash windows or you can threaten suicide like these are the two things you can do. Right. What else is there? It's tough. It's a tough economy out there even for panhandling.

I hear things like this and I think about how sad it is that our world is in the situation it's in where a lot of people are forced to use, you know, dishonest means in order to make money out of desperation. Yeah. It is a bummer. They're called Wall Street, Dan. Meanwhile, Alex and his bro out physical personal trainer, they have a slightly different angle on the whole thing.

That's a great. Well, that's what the gypsies do in your own. No, no, no, no. They'll take their first born whatever and name it. Absolutely. Break the arm, twist it, burn it with acid and then the childhoods are going begging and then you're supposed to give them money and it's like, well, it's their culture to name their children.

Fuck you. Well, I guess it was the Nazis culture to kill everybody. Fuck you. I don't support any of that. No, we have to learn to discriminate against cultures that are twisted and corrupt. All right. Let's start with the self. Yeah.

No kidding. And the lingering self. Let's start with that. Let's start with your culture. Alex, let's start with your weird constitutionalist anti-government groups. Hey, man, the gypsies aren't the one being racist to black people in the South. The gypsies aren't the one who enslaved them. The gypsies aren't the one who did the Tuskegee experiments.

The gypsies aren't the people who have done all of this shit and also don't say the word gypsy. That's very awful. Call them Romani. Yeah. Be that as it may. I'm not making that argument. I'm not saying we should discriminate against Alex's culture.

Of course not. I'm just saying that like... Well, I mean, it is a bad culture and we should kick all of them out of our country. It's not great. It's not a great culture that Alex lives in, but be that as it may, you know, it's within his right to exist in that culture and spout the bullshit that he spouts. I don't understand how he doesn't get that the same thing that protects his sort of right to exist is what protects everyone's right to exist.

It's because they don't... They just don't understand the... Well, I mean, what was the phrase that Ventura used if it works for one hand and has to work for the other? Use it on both hands. Yeah, yeah. It's the same shit with Trump tweeting out like it should always be a popular vote. And you're like, God damn it, you idiot.

Do you not understand for a second how this shit actually works? Right. And that will fuck you over in the long run. Yeah. So great. Good job, Trump. Right. You fucking idiot.

Well, it's just bad solutions to either non-existent problems or made up ones. So you're going to need to put the mic down for this next clip because Alex Jones and his trainer get into... Oh, God. I don't want to hear this. It's pretty bad. It's one of the more misogynistic things I've heard on his program. And that's...

That's saying a lot. I said not the most, maybe, but one of the most. Oh, boy. This is real grim. All right, mic down. And I think they think they're riffing, which makes it worse. Well, Pat Riley is here with us. You dropped by occasionally and hang out at the studio.

They've been gone for three weeks, but you were there in Europe during the midst of this. All I got to say is the Croatia photos, man, where is that lake you were at? Plitvich Lakes and Kerkka were two national parks that I went to. And I told them... Quite nice. You were telling me the women are particularly not good-looking in that area? Not at all. Not at all.

My wife was happy to know that there were some extremely unattractive women there. So that, you know... Because your wife went for two weeks, but then you went for three. Correct. But you were a good boy. I was very good, of course. Good man. All right.

The women are ugly. The women are ugly. Continue. Proceed. But you said the further you go east, the better looking they get. Absolutely. Total torture. And it's down.

Patrick Riley says that. Certified, delicious women. The food was good, too. But you know, the feminists say we're not supposed to compliment women because they control women. That's their territory. They run the women. And most top feminists, I understand, are lesbians.

And so they want like a giant elephant seal out there with their harem, going, my women, my women, can we show some, some elephant seals, dominant elephant seals? And so they're just telling us, stay away from their women. But I just want to tell all of, no, we're muscling into the table. No, you don't get all the women, my women. That's only fair. No. You want to do an elephant seal imitation?

No, I'm calling that. Yeah. You know, that's how you secretly go to a beach and pick up all the women. First of all, that guy definitely cheated on his wife. That the way they were talking, he absolutely, that whole thing of like, they're all ugly women is his way of like saying the opposite of what that's, you can tell, you can tell by the, I don't even like speculating on this shit right there, terrible chemistry leads me to believe he fucked some European women.

But secondly, well, he's a personal trainer, I'm assuming he's fairly, fuck this guy. I hope I, the only, why didn't he get kidnapped in a taken situation and his wife was like, yeah, you got him. You keep him. You're good. You guys keep him. The only thing I respect about him is that Alex is like, you want to do an elephant seal impression?

He's like, no. Yeah. I respect that. The rest of it. Terrible. So Alex's idea. That's what they want you to do. Feminists have their lesbians, the top feminists or lesbians, which you're right.

That's an absurd idea. Just the idea of top feminists. Yeah. They're the best feminists. There's power rankings in the feminism world. No, I'm at, uh, I'm at what, I'm at 1.3 million, 245, like that's where I'm at. I'm a little lower than that. You're a little lower than that.

Oh man. You got to catch up. You got to catch up publicly. Uh, but be that as it may, uh, this, I'll never break into the top million. I'll tell you that right now. So let's pretend that that is at all reasonable. Then Alex is a long jump and that they're lesbians and that they want a harem of women that they don't want dudes getting into.

Yeah. That makes sense. Even elephant seals, even if that's true. Alex Jones's argument that no, I'm muscling in. That's still bad. That's still fucked up. What we don't need, uh, in terms of our, that's him saying like, no, you shouldn't dominate these women.

I should be the one who dominates these women. Exactly. You don't even know what they really want. I'm the only one who can dominate these women in the, I should have a harem. Fuck that. Mm hmm. Fucking Christ. But it's still looking at women as things and it's so fucking, it's so fucking wrong.

It's so toxic. Just this idea. I mean, just, well, and he's equating that he's just projecting his bullshit onto lesbians imagining that, well, if it's a female who acts like a male, then she just needs to be reminded that she's not me, like that kind of a shit. And further, what he's projecting is what he would do in someone else's situation. Exactly. The same way he fucking always does.

If I were a top feminist, I would try and get a harem of women. That's basically what he's saying. And it makes sense that he ended up marrying a erotic masseuse. His personal life is off limits, but that's public. That's out there. Okay. All right. I didn't know that.

Yeah. His new wife is well not married for a little while. Yeah. She was apparently a, uh, she was a jerk off lady. It's possible. Anyway, not to slander her. No. Maybe she just danced a little while massaging.

Who knows? I don't know what erotic masseuse is. Uh, anyway, that's the end of our coverage of September 21st. And we'll move along now to September 22nd. Jesus Christ. Those two guys talking. It's so bad. Disgusting.

Yeah. It's really bad. I caught out a bunch of like all this stuff about the actual, uh, immigrants that he saw. Hey, it's, I mean, we can distill it into one sentence like we did, but the rest of it is just sort of like, you know, these are untrustworthy. It's just, these two guys together are horrible. It's that, it's that kind of thing that, and I thought it was bullshit. The argument that Trump immediately got out of after the grab them by the pussy thing where

he's like, Oh, it's just lock a room talk. I thought there's no way that anybody will buy that bullshit. It's so transparently dumb. And that is exactly what apparently this happens. Totally. Just happens a lot. Just not with the people we hang out. Yeah.

No, we're just in this weird bubble of not being horrifying. Yeah. The other thing I want to point out, I mean, we're still horrifying, but in different ways. Maybe this is a minor thing for me to be pointing out, but dude, this is the big leagues. This isn't some podcast. You're having your personal trainer as a guest. Come with it, man.

Like you have a billion people you reach every month. You have hundreds of millions of listeners. And for an expert, you decide to get your fucking personal trainer. Yeah, but he says, bro, man, that doesn't cut it. It's the same thing. Like how many comedy shows have you been to where it's like, Oh, that guy did not get booked cause he was good. He got booked cause he was friends with the guy running the show.

It's the same thing. That doesn't, that doesn't happen in the big leagues. I don't think that's true at all. I don't think JFL is booking based on friendship. I let's say. I disagree sometimes. Maybe. I mean, if you can, if you count like, maybe that's just me being better than I've never

been booked for JFL. That could be it too. If you count agents as friendship, maybe my argument falls apart, be that as it may. We got to get on to the, the 22nd. Alex Jones has an interesting guest on the 22nd. More interesting than his personal trainer. That's for sure. And I'll let him does his personal trainer at least give us any tips.

Nope. Not at all. Nothing to do with your doubts or quads. God damn it. Here's Alex, uh, introducing who has used a new arm workout. This is Alex saying who his guest is going to be on the 22nd. Ladies and gentlemen, we're live. We're broadcasting worldwide on this Tuesday, the 22nd day of September, 2015.

We do have some guests joining us for about 30 minutes at the start of the next hour. Diamond and silk, the two very entertaining and informative black ladies that have been so viral on the internet promoting Donald Trump. I wanted to get them on the show, so they'll be popping in with us to talk all things Donald Trump and election 2016 for 30 minutes at the start of the next hour. It comes, isn't it? Not really. He wants to fuck these two girls.

No, I don't think that's the case, but it is indicative of a pivot in some ways because there's no reason to have these two ladies on your show unless you just want someone parroting Donald Trump propaganda, pro Donald Trump arguments, because the two of them, God bless them, they're doing whatever they want to do, but it's just basically them yelling we stumped for Trump. He's going to bring our jobs back. All the Trump talking points. Really?

Yeah. Why did they go viral? Because it's two black ladies sitting in front of a webcam, just like doing like, oh, you said it, like that sort of stuff, but it's for Trump. The reason it goes viral is because it's so against type. You expect to hear like Hillbillies endorsing Trump. It's just like Alex with the one black pastor. It's like, this legitimizes everything that we say now.

If two black ladies are on our side, we can be as racist as we want. And I don't know what their story is. I don't know what their history is. I do know that of the stuff I've seen of them, they don't really have what appears to be a nuanced position on the issues. Okay. I'm not, it's difficult for me to encapsulate what I mean. Are David and Silk their real names?

I don't know. I don't care. From what I can tell, basically, they just repeat pro-Trump stuff. And that was what was their claim to fame. The interview that Alex Jones ends up having is not substantive in any way. And we'll get to one clip of it a little bit later. But before we do, it's important that on the 22nd, Alex Jones has finally found what he's looking for.

No, it recently, he still hasn't found what he's looking for. It recently came out in the salon article, Todd Nickerson, the article where the guy comes out and explains that he has an attraction to children but would never act on. Ah, yes. And Alex Jones has been saying that the globalists are going to try and mainstream pedophilia and try and make it so that if you are against pedophilia, you are a pedophobe. And so Alex makes a fucking meal out of this article. Yeah, of course.

And let's, let's just jump into it. Back to salon. I'm going to cover this more later. I saw this last night and Kit Daniels wrote a story about it. Louder with Crowder has a story out on it today. The headline is no salon. I don't need to understand the plight of pedophiles. And here's the headline.

I'm a pedophile, but not a monster. And it's begun. So it's begun. They're accepted in NGO, non-governmental organization, the UN. They're not. Um, well, I mean, just like I said earlier this week or last week, what do you think Jocelyn Elders, when she was the, that's why I've been bringing her back up, the Surgeon General, you know, said we need to help the little children masturbate.

It's about weirdos sexually getting their hands on your kids. Cause if they can do that, they can do anything forced inoculations. You name it. And then on California passed a lot two years ago saying, we'll give your kids inoculate. I don't like the acceleration, the, whatever. Fuck this. This is stupid. I hate that.

I hated that, uh, that whole thing because reading that was such a complex situation. Very much so. So for, for somebody who's trying to understand people and figure out what is not just, not just like, oh, let's kill these guys. But how do we actually practically reduce, uh, pedophilia and all of these things? Well, it's like what we've talked about with gun stuff. The end result that we want is less people being killed by guns. Yeah.

In terms of pedophiles, what we want is less children being abused. Yeah. And if the route to that end goal that we'd like is a further understanding of where does this come from? Right. What is going on in the psychology of the people who are attracted to children. Then it behooves you to have some understanding that doesn't mean liking it. That doesn't mean accepting it.

That doesn't mean mainstreaming it, but it does mean like the end goal is not well achieved by murdering everybody who has attractions to children. Yeah. The end goal of that will be everyone going underground and you've seen that. You've seen the dark web connections that people have of, you know, child porn. And just like, just like the guy said in the article, it's like, I can't tell my therapist. I can't tell my psychiatrist. I can't tell people because they're, well.

They don't have an obligation to report just that you have attractions to children. But that's what they're, that's what they're saying is that they, yeah, they won't do that. Not that they can't, but that they won't because of such this, this terror. And there's a part of you that's like, fucking, no, you're a, like all of these different complicated things. And that's our issue. If you're on the right, nope, simple, it, it's skeet shooting. It goes up.

You shoot it down. It's an easy narrative for them to push. It fits so perfectly into fear mongering and other and, and I get it. I get it. I don't think that Alex Jones is a complete idiot for being averse to this, but I think he's being incredibly dishonest by saying that it is part of a push to mainstreamize horse pedophilia. And then beyond that, the things that he uses to bolster that is saying that pedophiles

are recognized non-governmental organization with the UN, which isn't Namble stuff from way back when, right? There was the gay advocacy group that in the, uh, what was it, the early eighties included Nambla. Uh, the gay rights organization became a recognized, uh, member, uh, advert, uh, what was it, advisory member of the UN. And then it came out. Oh wait, Nambla is part of your group.

So they got kicked out. And then they kicked Nambla out. Yes. Yeah. Nambla has never been a part of, uh, advisory committees for the UN. Uh, it's just a complete lie that he knows no one's going to look into. Then beyond that, we see him doing a voice with Jocelyn Elders, which tell, should tell you he's lying.

Yeah. And he absolutely is. Jocelyn Elders just said that in terms of discouraging, uh, dangerous behaviors, maybe children should learn about masturbating. Maybe. Yeah. It's not saying, Hey, go jack off those kids. Hey, teachers, what you should do is get in those pants.

She didn't say that. And Alex is just lying about it. And that would be wild if she did. But so the fact that he's using these two absolute, uh, sort of definable lies to bolster his argument should tell you that he's not willing to wrestle with the nuance that we were, uh, sort of just indicating that. Exactly. That's the problem.

In that situation, everybody who is, you know, capable of reason is paralyzed by that. Right. Cause you're just, there's so much to kind of sift through. Yeah. Whereas if you're on the right, you just get to, you just get to fucking put your ears back and go whole hog into this. Right. So for, like the argument that I can have with him is just, it's really complicated.

Yeah. And I don't think there's any way you'll ever understand it. If I were talking to Alex Jones about these things, I'd be like, I'm going to punt. Yeah, exactly. No, this one's, this one's, I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. There's no easy answer.

There's no clear answer. No. So I just, I don't know, man. I got nothing. Anyway, if you, if you think he's done a bad job so far, let's listen to this next clip where he gets into some analysis, I thought it was already over. I thought he had already fucked everybody up. No, he has some analysis about the article that's, uh, can't have analysis.

Well, I mean, I guess technically he doesn't, but he tries, he tries by definition. Gotcha. Now, writing for salon, Todd Nickerson says this, isn't he brave coming out of the closet? Maybe he should be on the cover of sports illustrated, maybe should get an ESPN award. I don't, I don't think he should be. Then he would be hurt by a lot of people. But also right there, what he's doing is subconsciously implanting in his audience's mind a connection between pedophiles and Caitlyn Jenner.

He's trying to create a soft mental bridge between pedophiles and transgender people. Oh shit. He's absolutely doing that. It's intentional. I did not. It's not intentional in the sense that he meant to, but it's how his mind works. It's intentional in the way that all of their minds work. Right.

Absolutely. We can't, we can't have gay marriage because gay people are pedophiles. Like that whole, that whole thing, well, way back when he'll deal with that in a second. But beyond whatever he's about to say, right there is an indication that at least on some level he equates transgender people with pedophiles, which is fucking atrocious. But be that as it may, I'm a pedophile, but not a monster. I'm attracted to children, but unwilling to act on it before judging me harshly. Would you be willing to listen?

And this is exactly how the homosexual lobby started back in the 40s and 50s with articles and readers digest saying the exact same thing. And then you can say, Hey, that's adults. That's consenting. That's gone on forever. Absolutely. Homosexuals and pedophiles are two different categories totally. Stop there.

Stop there. Just stop there. The larger agenda, forget homosexuals, forget heterosexuals, forget any of these groups and labels. You're so close. The larger globalist dehumanization, THX 1138, Brave New World, Brave New World Revisited, UNESCO Worldwide Treaty Arrangement Agreement. That's a long name.

That's a long name. Insexuality as we know it. It's a long name for that agreement. Homosexual bots, if they choose to even keep humanoids around, this debate was being held back in the 30s. Great. So they've chosen to keep us around. So there's an attack on masculinity.

There's an attack on masculinity. There's an attack on the species and there's a revolution of women I've noticed waking up to this more than even men. And there's a major trying to get back to the true nature of humanity and how empowering it is. Not the twisted roles that certainly were there under classical male masculinity, feminine, femininity. Femin, the goddess, the archetypes.

Sure. So that's nonsense. That's utter balderdash. The idea, like I love that THX YYZ 1138 Agreement World Association, dominating balls, bravo. Brave New World, Brave New World, revisited UNESCO agreement. 1984 through 1988. That's just word salad. He's just throwing a bunch of stuff there hoping that it sounds official.

Yeah. Secret treaties. What the fuck are you talking about? This is all nonsense. And the fact that where he goes with it is like they're trying to attack masculinity and femininity. That's your takeaway from this article? This is far away from what, that's nowhere near it.

What are you doing? Well, even rhetorically, that doesn't make sense. Just from a position of like, okay, you're trying to make a bad argument. That's how you choose to do it? Weird. Weird. Anyway, Alex has another thing he wants. Maybe he's high today.

He might be. There's something he wants to point out that is trying to bolster his claims that they have. Maybe he got that from, with the Ventura interview, he's like, man, Ventura is really high and he kicked my ass. I better get high. Maybe if I'm high, I'll be just as good. Or maybe it's the one time a year he smokes weed to test the potency.

Could be. Could be. Just happened to do it before his show. Yeah. So here, here's a... And he gets to the station is like, whoops, here's something real dicey. And now it's come out that we're coverups and that Sandusky Foundation was supplying children statewide.

So this is one of Alex's big, this is one of his big arguments that you know, he talks about procures and stuff like that. And you know, there was that Boys Town situation that happened where there was definitively it had been proven that people were, you know, taking these underprivileged kids and senators were doing, doing shit with them. Wow. You remember that story? I do, but that's...

The conspiracy of silence documentary. That's fucked up. Yeah, it is super fucked up, but such has not been at all proven as it relates to Sandusky and his, I believe it's called the second mile, something like that. His organization that was... Supporting youth. Yeah, he was trying to get kids to play sports, but obviously it was a way for him to groom victims.

Yeah, he was just grooming kids. Yeah. Right. So, I mean, there are a lot of problems with it. He wasn't procuring. There's no indication of that at all. Investigations have been done and like past investigations have shown as in the case of the Boys Town situation that that was what was going on.

Right. In this case, there is no indication. So, I looked into it and tried to find where is this stuff coming from and I think I figured it out and that is that allegations that Sandusky was pimping out children come from a radio host named Mark Madden who is actually Larry Nichols with a mustache on. It might as well be. Yeah. He in 2011 said, quote, I can give you a rumor and I can give you something I think might

happen. I hear there's a rumor that there may be more shocking development from the second mile foundation and hold on to your stomach, boys, because this is gross. I will use the language I can that Sandusky and the second mile were pimping out young boys to rich donors. That was being investigated by two prominent columnists even as I speak. How does that sentence start? I have a rumor.

So when he was pressed on it, he said this, I normally abhor giving rumors credence, but the whole Sandusky scandal started out as a rumor. It gets deeper and more disgusting all the time. It's a rumor. It's a rumor that some radio host put out into the world and Alex Jones has been peddling his entire worldview about these pedophiles and the Renfields and Dracula's basically on this. This is pizza gate shit.

This is that level of like internet mobbery. The idea, like I'm not trying to defend Sandusky or Joe Paterno or anybody involved in this. They're all fucking awful monsters. Yeah, no, I hope they all die twice. Absolutely. And clearly indications have come out that Joe Paterno was aware of this dating back to the 70s. He knew like he was not innocent in any of this.

So I'm not at all giving them a pass. What I am saying is it's irresponsible journalism on Alex Jones's part to try and create this broader spider web that's going on when in the truth, it's just, it's just a fucking monster. What we can tell is it's one monster who is looking for his own victims. So I don't think in terms of official information, and maybe there is something out there that I'm unaware of. And if that's the case, please feel free to tell me.

But from what I've been able to glean, the idea that there was procurement and pimping out of these children goes back to rumors as opposed to actual truth. And like Alex, you've got to do better. You've got to do better. I understand that you want to launch conspiracy theories and you want people to distrust mainstream narratives, but you can't, you can't just do this. You really sensationalize a real problem to the point where you lose your credibility about that real problem.

Right. But the problem, the problem on for defend, or for, you know, defeating his argument there means you do have to kind of take Sandusky's side and saying, you know, he was a monster, but at least he didn't pure procure kids. Like that's, that's such an awful place to be. I'm not willing. Like Sandusky is not going to sue him for libel. No, you know, that's not going to happen.

Even though he could win possibly, you know, but I mean, but you're not going to, you don't want to do that. Because you, like, you don't have the responsibility to prove a negative. So he wouldn't have to in court prove that he's never procured children for anybody. Alex would have to prove that he did, but you would see the headline Sandusky sues Alex for libel. And there's just like, that's fucking horrific. Yeah.

But nobody wants you to even be alive. We definitely don't want you to win a lawsuit if it's against Alex. That's a real, that puts us in a real pickle. That's not a real bind. That's tough. I still, I mean, I'm glad it never happened. Yeah, exactly. Right.

I don't want to deal with that. But that's why he can make this argument so spuriously is because nobody's, nobody wants to be in that position. Oh, fuck you. Fuck Alex Jones. Fuck him. Fuck him. Amen.

But this leads and fuck Sandusky. Sure. Why are we here? I don't know. But anyway. All right. Alex Jones. Why did you take me to this place?

I don't know. Very angry. Uh, you know, who else is angry? Alex. Alex is angry. And that's not talk. It's really easy to beat somebody's brains out. All right.

No. You just decide to do it. Humans have a governor. You're getting a fight with me. I don't have a governor. I've, if you're hurting me or hurting my children, I will decide to hurt you. I will will it. I will put you in the throat and then you can drown on your own blood.

People say that sounds evil and hateful. No, it doesn't. It's the right spirit against this type of garbage. You keep your filthy hands off our kids, you perverts. And that goes for those medical perverts that want to inject them with all these deadly vaccines. Good boy. All right.

Well, I mean, to some extent, I kind of agree with that being the rage impulse that you would have. I think you just said he wasn't human. I think he just made that. He doesn't have a governor. Humans have governors. I don't have a governor. I've trained myself not to.

Therefore, logically, you are no longer human. Probably because of the brain damage you suffered as a child, but entirely possible. Be that as it may, I get it. I get the idea of like what you'd call a crime of passion where you find your kid being abused and you beat someone to death. I understand that. I get it. I get that reaction.

I don't get Alex Jones is equating it with vaccines. I think that's troubling the idea that these are medical perverts who want to shoot up your children with stuff. Right. Very weird. But I hate that. It's not easy to beat someone's brains in that sort of shit. That's creepy shit.

Yep. It's going to get worse. Here's this next clip. You should be attracted to help children and build them up and nurture them. Okay. Good. Attracted to defending them. I'm attracted to wanting to get my hands around your throat.

No. I'm attracted to you now. Do you understand that? But not the way you. Imagine. Blows. God. Break.

Yeah. Watch that evil fall to the ground. Excuse me. I shouldn't be on here today. Read this. I just I saw this last night and I already knew it was all coming. But now we're going to be pita fobs. I mean, just, you know, pedophile fobs.

They're never going to stop their session. They're going to put drugs in the food and water more intense when we barely can resist. I mean, it's just so we. Everybody's going to be dying of cancer all around us. Just with potbelly pedophiles hopping around like it's a Super Mario brothers. You know, grabbing our children, giggling, bouncing on to the next with SWAT teams, defending them as they just pick which kids they want. And as giant third world hordes just pour in raping.

Everyone's just sexualizing our children, ruling everything, debasing the currency, drugging the food and water, giving everyone cancer and just dancing to their god of death, selling body parts, chopping up babies that battle the scalpel. I mean, it's just, it's just on hell on earth. The gates are opening and out will flood the armies. I got to say, don't bring Super Mario into this. That would be great. If nearing the end of the rant, the exit music just said.

Whatever the death music is. Yeah. So that's just a weird, like violent fantasy that Alex Jones is engaging in that I joking off to justified violence. 01:23:51,020 --> 01:23:53,020 And it's what they all fucking do. I just want to kill somebody and they don't want to be in trouble. And he's pantomimeing it too.

Like he's throwing punches in the air and like it's crazy. Like this is, I agree with him. He should not be on air today. But yeah, no kidding. Also, I want to say that I have, I'm starting to figure out Alex Jones's pattern in terms of his manic episodes. Cause now we've seen about three of them. He's about to get into one.

Yeah. Oh, he's already ramping up. I think we can find his cycle. And I think we can based on a couple of past months. I think he is about like a 40 day cycler. Okay. I haven't figured it out exactly and we're going to need more evidence cause one of them falls on when he was in a vacation.

He might have been freaking out in Europe. Right. But yeah, I'm about two months. I'm about two and a half months something along those lines. And people have different calendars as that go. Yeah. But I think we're going to be able to. And then yeah, it's stressors in there and you figure out your shit.

But yeah, the cycle is about that. So Alex Jones has engaged in what is now a couple of very violent diatribes about pedophiles and how he wants to beat people's brains in. I implore you to listen to this next clip where he's responding to a caller talking about other civilizations having very low age of consent. Look, any old world culture, women got started getting married at 13, 14, 15. Because technically you can say that they're a woman at that point. Western culture, we started arresting development to push it back to, you know, 18 or whatever.

I personally think 16 is probably the proper age. Huh. He thinks proper age of consent is 16. May I offer this? The age of consent in Texas is 17. So what Alex Jones is actually advocating is dropping of the age of consent. Well, yeah, there are a lot of states where you hate pedophiles. Just make it harder to be one.

Just make it mathematically harder. There are a number of states, probably about 20 states or so where the age of consent is 16. The rest of the country at 17 or 18. And that doesn't even get into the idea that there are different age of consent laws for heterosexual and homosexual sex, which is very weird. But be that as it may, what he's advocating at a certain point, there should be different age of consent laws for every person. Right.

This whole thing is fucked up. There are very few states. There are a couple where the age of consent is 15 or 14, which is wild. Well, there are places where you can be legally married at 14 or 13 and that's fine. Yeah. Even though you're still below the age of consent. So there are a couple states where Alex is Lord of Alex's 16 year old would bump it up, you know, from 15 to 16.

Yeah. But largely what he'd be advocating is a drop of the age of consent. So he has this whole episode where he's like these, these non acting pedophiles are lying and I want to beat their brains in and they're just going to call me a pedophobe. Let's drop the age of consent. Yeah. It's very weird. That's him more negotiating with pedophiles.

Somewhat. Yeah. It's very weird. The idea that he doesn't, he doesn't see that these two things are sort of working against each other sort of philosophically. And his other thing is his line should be hard 18. His other thing though is that he kind of suggests that Western culture did it on purpose. Intentionally.

We delayed human development. Right. Not realizing it's sort of an unforeseen byproduct of the agricultural revolution. Or even just why, what does that mean? What argument is that? What do you mean? That the idea that it was fine, that it was 13 or 15 back then until Western cultures decided to.

I don't know. I don't want to unpack it. I want to get out of this segment of the show. I don't like it at all. Let's move. This is gross. Let's move out of this. He's gross.

And move back to what is becoming incredibly familiar territory where a little bit later on the 22nd, Alex Jones also says once again that Putin is a good guy. So that's all coming up. And I'm going to get into Putin deploys now 28 combat planes. It was for Syria. We've known for years there's Russian troops. Now the news is like, okay, the Russians are really there. I mean, you read foreign news.

It's all admitted. You read our news. It's like crazy because they don't even want you to know that Putin keeps saying for three years, join me in fighting al-Qaeda, join me in fighting ISIS. They won't even say it in our news. That's how ignorant the people are because of the media to a great extent. Or now the media is like, yeah, Putin snuck in, he invaded Syria like he invaded Ukraine. Oh my gosh, we got to do something.

This is a huge provocation when Putin's been on the world stage for at least three years saying, okay, he'll give up his chemical weapons. He'll work with you. We'll elect a new government. Let's bring in UN troops with US troops. That's the secret. Let's work together. Let's kick the radicals.

Russia is ready for a joint deal. Bullshit. And they go, no. And launch a chemical attack and blame it on Assad and Putin. I mean, I read newspapers and it's just like every day there's an editorial with an editorial cartoon where Putin's giving chemical weapons to Assad. It's just all made up. It's admitted al-Qaeda launched those attacks.

It's not. I mean, you would get that if you just read pro-Russian media. So that is probably where a lot of that is coming from. Yeah. If you're saying that you think al-Qaeda used chemical attacks instead of Assad, that is so in denial of reality. Well, where he takes that from. Which is why it would be from Russian propaganda.

Yeah. He takes that from Russian media sources like the ones we've discussed. He also takes it from, there was that ambassador who has suspicious ties to Putin. Yeah. Who was like, yeah, he's doing great in Syria. I know for a fact that Syria, the chemical weapon attacks were staged and Assad is a good guy. All right.

I don't think that you are an unbiased source. No, that's the, what's that? The British guy? Yeah. Yeah. So look, I mean, we were just seeing mountains of evidence piling up that Alex thinks that we're the bad guys and Putin is the good guy. Yeah.

And. Hey Alex, one thing to say to you, love it or leave it. Seems very anti-American. He is not a big fan of America. So, as we mentioned earlier, Alex has got this interview with Diamond and Silk. Yep. And here is a little excerpt where Alex Jones does not want to deal with the issues and wants to.

Sound like characters from Steven Universe. He wants to inject misogyny into this interview. Why? Check this shit out. Let it go. Yeah. So it's, it's, it's his policies. It's why you let his liking.

Now, don't lie to me. Do you also think Donald's handsome? Well, listen. Yes, he's handsome. Yeah. But he's going to be our next president and that's what we're excited about. That's what we want. Everybody forget about this media biasness and this propaganda.

That's right. Don't pay it. No attention. Continue to stop for Trump because that's what we're going to continue to do is stop for him until we get him in that White House. Oh yeah. So you get a little sense of. You guys want to have sex with Trump because that's the only reason that women have any

a fuck you. He's, he brings it up twice actually. Of course. It's the first two times he asks, are you hot for Trump? Now I'm not, I'm not saying this in any dismissive way. They really just keep saying we stumped for Trump and just spouting catchphrase. Right. You got to do it.

And it's your policies that excite him. Dan, name, name a Trump policy. None. None that excite me. Yeah. But be that as a mate. Like there's one lady who says all this stuff. She yells like we're going to stump for Trump.

He's going to be the next president. And then the other lady just goes, that's right. And stuff like that. She's going to church. She's a hype woman. Yeah. And Alex can't handle it. Like it's a bad interview.

It just, it's just, he has them on to basically be black and stumped for Trump, stumped for Trump. Do both at the same time and you win points. The idea that Alex Jones is having them on as a guest indicates to me that he recognizes that maybe they have an audience that he doesn't have, maybe can tap into it or he's And it legitimizes it to his old white audience so they don't feel guilt. It's all about not feeling guilt. Or if you see two black women, you go, Hey, I know all of these millions and millions

of black people are telling me this, but look, we've got some too. So it's not a racial thing. Or my position is somewhat that he's already behind the scenes or subconsciously decided that he's going to jump into Trump's camp and he's doing these things as test balloons. He's doing them as like putting his toe into the water, right? Having these ladies who are so pro Trump on and knowing that you're not going to get, you're not having an interview. You're just letting them be on your platform.

Right. Does he challenge anything or ask them any questions? He asks some questions, but they're more like soft balls. Yeah. There is like little meatballs over the plate for them to yell. So there's no, there's really no, even like, like even his, why do you support Trump is just allowing them to say we, we need to get him into the White House to bring prosperity. He's going to bring jobs back, blah, blah, blah, all the platitudes know how is he going

to bring jobs back? No. No, of course not. No. And to me, that's an indication that he's already preparing his audience for the eventual twist that happens because I think he got a bunch of money at the money bomb. Right. But be that as it may, this might bolster my claims.

Here is Alex Jones invalidating things he said about Trump in the past. Because I don't want people thinking I got money or something. I mean, they have created such incredible class envy in this country. It makes my head spin. And even people that are middle class now get upset if somebody is better at sports to them or better than business. I mean, I would think you would admire that person and want to learn why they're successful. But this class warfare class envy system is the death of this country.

We've got to reverse it. And so for all of Donald Trump's problems, one of the positive things is at least he's self made. He's got his problems, but at least he's self made and he makes it okay to be successful again. Because that's the type of examples we need for children to believe they can become successful because more rich people that are free market means more wealth for everybody else, more economy.

That's patently untrue. Right. That's how we, that's how it is now. That's how we got in this mess. Yeah. Why do you? But, but, but, but the reason that Alex Jones thinks that Trump is self made is because they have similar backstories in the sense that Trump got bailed out over and over again

by his super rich father and has a empire that's based on charade wherein he is money laundering through businesses and making it appear that he's successful. Alex Jones only has a career because his dad bought him a radio show when he was younger by being his first sponsor and giving him the perception of being self made and you know, like building up all this stuff. And now he has an empire that's built on fake pills. So like there is a pretty similar trajectory between the two of them, which I can understand Alex Jones sort of seeing and relating to and becoming enamored with.

I could see that. But at the same time, Alex in the past has said that Trump is a con man. He said that he is a front man for a consortium on the East Coast. He's mobbed up. He doesn't think that Trump is self made. No. It's the stuff that he's said already on his show within the last couple months before this.

This is complete doubling back and contradicting things he said in the past. And to me, that is an indication that Alex has changed. Something has changed. It's not just I'm not going to talk shit about Trump anymore. It's I'm going to lie, whereas in the past I said what I actually thought. I have a counter thought. Maybe it is just the fact that that's been repeated so many times. It's possible.

Like Alex is a very suggestible hypnotizable young man. That's true. And that was Trump's narrative. That's what was put into every piece, every single thing. Even if it's even if it's like a CNN thing, it's like Trump is a self made billionaire and all of this stuff or he's a very good businessman, which is the narrative that they kept pushing. Yeah, that's true.

The only way people want to vote for him is because they want a good businessman in the White House. And so Alex just hears it repeated over and over again from places like Breitbart, from all of these places. And maybe you just pro Russia stuff. Yeah, exactly. So maybe actively wanted him to win. Maybe he's just dumb.

Well he is. Yeah, certainly. So maybe it's just he he can only hold a certain amount of information about a certain topic in his head at any time. And if you repeat stuff enough, you just push the old out. It's possible. I don't know. I have my assertion.

You have yours. We'll see what bears out over the course of, you know, I'm not saying that yours is in any way like contradicted by what we learn two days from now or anything like that. Okay. But I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. But this I'm going to skip this next clip because it doesn't matter.

Alex just lies about clean coal. He says that every every coal plant, you know, you see those buildings below them. They're scrubbers. Everything is getting scrubbed like as if they're taking all of the all of the fucking gases that are coming out and there's just a shammy. It's a it's a coal wash. Yeah. Yeah.

You know, you put in 50 cents. You go right through the cycle. Clean coal now. If you look into it at all, the clean coal stuff is a myth. All of the attempts at making clean coal power plants are wildly over budget take much longer to create. It's it is not a success. The idea that every plant coal plant is burning clean coal and everything you see coming out

of the smokestacks. That's just water vapor. Yeah. It's such bullshit. Right. Alex has to know that's not true. That's that's the nicotine is good for you from the fifties. Right.

Or John Boehner. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Good point. Or Mike Pence. Oh God. So this next we have we have gone back to when they wanted to go back to somewhat.

I don't think anybody likes it. Chris Jones at the end of this show on the 22nd gets a call from a guy that is I had a roller coaster with this guy because at the beginning of the call he starts pointing out some very true things such as Donald Trump's connection with Jeffrey Epstein noted pedophile billionaire Jeffrey Epstein. Yes. Also he talks about Bay Rock the real estate organization that is clearly involved with Trump and Russian mobs.

Right. That's the thing of Saved by the Bell. Yes. Then the call takes a weird turn and I can no longer support this guy. Okay. You'll see exactly where that happens as we here we go. Well you got the floor for three minutes. Go ahead.

Thank you. There's an old expression. Be careful of what you pray for. You might just get it. And I think that's what we're heading for with Trump. You can judge a man by the company he keeps. I'm sure you would agree with that. Yes.

And Jeffrey Epstein I'm sure your listeners know who this man is. He's a convicted sex offender kept company with the likes of Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Alan Dershowitz. Excuse me flew around an aircraft called the Lolita Express 727 all around the world. Yeah. That should have been very obvious. These people being implicated in a sex ring child sex ring slavery investigation. I knew about the investigation.

Trump hangs out with those folks. Wow. Also Donald Trump's business partner is a gentleman in a consortium with Bay Rock Group LLC, a property group that's partnered with the Trump Organization to build a solo hotel condominium and a Trump Tower in Florida. He was arrested by Turkish police to swoop down on in helicopters on a yacht in the Mediterranean and found underage hookers on board. So these are the types of people that Donald Trump is rubbing elbows with.

So I don't endorse either Ron Paul, Rand Paul, any politician. I think they're all corrupt to the to the eyeball. All right. So I'm still, I'm still here. So I didn't, I didn't quite like that last part as much, but I'm still here. Here is where it takes a hard turn. Oh boy. This is jarring.

As far as people trying to judge your character, Alex, with mainstream media like Salon and mainstream media. I really think those are all again controlled by what I refer to as dying as Jew, Jewish media and their, the thing with politics, when you look at the politics, the US Congress is primarily run by the American, Israeli political action committee. That's, let's, let's just call it a spade here. As far as technology is concerned, Boeing has an uninterruptible autopilot switch on their aircraft, which makes me, which makes me think about nine 11 and it really makes me

call it. Both those aircraft that hit the towers did, did, did have that on them. And then Bush even gave a speech and admitted that, you know, there's no doubt a Jewish mafia that's, that's leftist, wait, what? Many respects. There's definitely a right wing Jewish lobby as well. I don't say it's, it's one big group, but certainly of the big four lobbies, the, the APEC lobby is one of them and I have a serious problem with a foreign power manipulating our

internal politics, be it Israel, be it England, be it Russia, be it China, anybody, be it Saudi Arabia. So I, I hear what you're saying. This is why people like David Duke and people who are anti-Semitic bigots count Alex Jones as one of their own. This guy just said, these attacks against you in salon and these places are just Zionist Jews. And Alex doesn't push back on that at all.

You're right. There is a Jewish mafia on the left. On the right, it's just a lobby. Right. It's a mafia on the left though. Right. Everybody knows that on the left, it's mafias. Wow.

This is, this is why there is no difference between forces of anti-Semitism and Alex Jones's audience. Wow. I don't like Donald Trump because of the Jews. Well, I mean, he brought up other valid points, which is the problem. That's why that's such a roller coaster. It's like this guy is a fucking weirdo asshole, anti-Semitic oriented guy, but Jeffrey Epstein and Trump did hang out.

Right. They have had a history together and Epstein is a fucking pedophile and he's in prison. Right. He was a billionaire who hung out with people like Bill Clinton and Donald Trump. Absolutely. Like that's just, you can't get around that. Alex now only talks about the Bill Clinton part whenever he talks about Epstein. Oh yeah.

Because it's his way of tarring the Clintons as well. Yeah. No, no, no. Don't worry about the Trump part. Completely forgetting about that being a piece of this. Then talking about Bay Rock and Soho Hotel and Felix Seder, like these are legitimate pieces of what I hope and I think will become a very ugly investigation, will become public in the near future.

And those are the consortiums that Alex was himself was talking about earlier. And now he's just like, yeah, the Jews, I'm with you. Yeah. So that's the problem with that call is like he brings up a couple of really valid points and then invalidates himself entirely by blaming Zionist Jews for everything. But Alex can't argue with it because it's really what he believes to just under a different banner. So we're going to skip the 23rd because I just don't care.

Okay. What happened the 23rd? Well, at the end of the 22nd, he goes to a David Knight report. He's out on the field covering the Pope. And then the 23rd is largely just, there's a lot of Pope shit. He's just railing on the Pope saying he's a devil and all this. There's a couple. It does make him feel better.

He probably had a headache that day. He fakes crying at one point for the plight of the poor people in the world, which is really, it's pretty funny, but not necessary to go over. He has a long interview with Peter Schiff, the economist whose dad is in prison for not paying taxes. Never pay taxes. It's a crime. About how it's basically just an interview about how his dad is a political prisoner

and they never bring up the fact that he didn't pay taxes on millions of dollars and millions of taxes that he owed and that he got a lot of other people arrested because he told them to do the same thing. Yeah. They just say he's in prison because he wrote a book. Yeah. Well, he had a copy of the constitution in his pocket. Right.

It's few hollow tips. As a human, I feel bad for Peter Schiff and having to deal with his dad being sick in prison. That is a human thing that is very sad, but at the same time, I can't excuse him going on Alex Jones' show and using his dad's sickness in prison and clear crimes as propaganda fodder. Is he trying to get money? No.

He's trying to get the prison system investigated. He's trying to cause all kinds of like, we need to do an investigation. We would need to use taxpayer funds to do that. There's a couple of times he's, I can't tell if he's joking about breaking his dad out of prison. I can't quite tell. It's a fine line. He's like, let's break him out.

Beyond that, Alex Jones asserts that the California drought is a false flag. Well, he does want to put him into a private prison. That's the, he doesn't like the taxpayers paying for his dad. Right. That's what he hates. He, I mean, that is in line with his philosophies, but you just glossed over me saying that California's drought is a false flag because they're using weather weapons. Those just go right in through one ear and out through the other.

Oh, of course it's a false flag. Yeah, absolutely. Also, there's, there's some talk about weather weapons and then Alex Jones asserts two things that are wild. One is that Mel Gibson was set up because, how did he, how did he get set up? He doesn't go into the details. How do you, how do you set somebody up for an anti-semitic rant after being pulled over for drunk driving?

Yeah. What do you, I don't know. I guess he was, did they, did they get him drunk? They dosed him. Yeah. They dosed him. Okay. All right.

But the reason is because cover your drinks, anti-semites, then you might get, you might get told to talk. The reason that they set him up was because he's critical of the Vatican. So like, all right, that's wild. I'm not even going to engage with that. The other thing he wanted Alex asserts is that Germany was the victim in World War one and two, which, if you're talking about like just the mainstream population, maybe, but if you're talking about the country as a whole and the governments, not so much.

That's not good. It doesn't smell good. That's not good. I don't like that. So he's, he's a, he's a very short step away from being a Holocaust denier. No, we already went over it in the last episode. Like a full one. He, not, not like, not like his half, half bullshit.

He's a Holocaust revisionist and that's bad enough. That's true. All those Holocaust deniers too. Didn't I? Yeah. Yeah. I did make that point. Yeah.

So that's all, that's all fucked. And then they do have another field report with Jacari Jackson and David Knight following the Pope around. But that sounds like a fun buddy comedy. It would be so boring. Do they go out to eat afterwards? They must. You know what's fun?

They can never appear on camera together because they're the other person's camera man. So when they're doing live stuff, it's always like David Knight's there and like, we'll check in with Jacari later. They're obviously at the same place. They're just switching the camera. We'll check in with Jacari and the time it takes me to hand in my phone. Glad you raised a million dollars for this, Alex. You're doing great work.

So we get onto the 24th and I want to know what they're, do they stay in a motel together? Do they have separate beds? They bunk it. They bunk it. Yeah. Are they camping? I want them to be camping. That would be so great.

Like an easy writer, but the most boring version of it. Just David Knight. I don't know. I don't want to do an impression of his boring ass. I want to give you a treat because a lot of this is not very pleasant. And so this next clip is my gift to you. It is one of the few times that in these rebroadcast episodes I'm able to get access to. They keep in some of Alex Jones' karaoke.

Oh, yay. So let's listen to him rocking out to quiet riot. You know, the fortune that I want is liberty and freedom and a system based on empowering humanity. The globalists want inverted power over people to dumb them down. I'm in the camp that wants the power to be free, the power to have the globalist off my back. Wait for it.

This is like a guitar. It's Randy Rose. I really want to be overrated. And I'm a keeper. Why are you making this song creepy? You know, Vayner's a weeper. Why don't you just make that song so creepy? I don't know.

Sometimes I see something so beautiful. I get a tear in my eye or something so ugly I do as well. It's like a Siamma. I guess I am a weeper. I'm really weep though. I just get tears in my eyes. Bang your head. Come in on the right.

God damn it. I better stop it right now. I apologize. I'm going to quit right there. I love that. I love it. First of all, we've not done a good enough job pointing out how often he apologizes. Yeah.

Whatever he does, anything fun. I'm sorry. I shouldn't have done that. I'm sorry. I was interesting for a minute. Yeah. That's just great. And I want to be totally clear.

I didn't turn up the audio. That was the person on the board in the studio. Oh, definitely. Alex was doing like that. And the parts where he's not talking, he's just rocking. Yeah. He's banging his head. Oh, God.

It's in the song title. Oh, God. So on the 24th, there's a lot of stuff. I mean, it's more like, I'm telling you, this week is all Pope. It is all anti-Pope stuff. That is mostly what he's into. He talks about how, okay. When the Pope came, a young Hispanic girl came up to the Pope and gave him a letter

asking that her family not be deported and urging like clemency about immigrants. Yeah. What have you. Yeah. It obviously is probably a photo op of some sort. I mean, even us, we don't think that there's necessarily, that is a genuine moment. No. But at the same time, it's beautiful.

And I don't think it's something nefarious, but Alex Jones does. He thinks it's globalists and they're pushing. Yeah. Open borders propaganda. Of course. And the globalist Pope is in on it. Right. And what have you.

It's interesting to note that he prefers the Nazi Pope. Right. He definitely preferred the Nazi youth being Pope. And they argue that the only reason that he got out and we got this Pope Francis in was because of the pedophile black male. Right. Right. Against the Nazi Pope.

My Sebastian Gorka is going to be the next Pope after the cool Pope. I would assume so. Certainly Nazi lineage. So beyond that, he talks about how Edward Snowden's a hero and Trump is wrong about him, which is interesting. Agreed. I appreciate that. I withhold judgment, but I generally agree.

He also talks about how the kid who came to school and made a clock. You remember that? Yes, I do recall that. E. And it was a bomb. E. It's a false flag, my man. How could that be a false flag?

Because it wasn't a bomb. I know it wasn't a bomb. But he made it look like a bomb. It didn't look like a bomb. But he made it look like a bomb so that the police would have to get involved and then it would become this PR stunt that people could demonize the anti-immigrant forces with this publicity stunt. That's just a bad plan.

It's a bad plan and it's a long way to go. Yeah. So there are so many easier ways to demonize the anti-immigrant people such as by using their actions and words. Yeah. And also, Alex Jones claims that he's going to prove on this show that weather weapons are real and that he's right about all this stuff. He's like, we talk about it all the time and I'm going to lay it out.

So he has a guest at the end of the show named Dave Wiggington and I haven't kept any of this in because it is the lamest fucking interview I've ever heard. It's all that there's no sources of stuff. There's just vague mentions of chemtrails and stuff that we've already discussed that Alex is lying about. Right. So I don't even care but I do love it when he's like, I'm going to prove it and then it doesn't.

And then does nothing of the sort. He claims that the globalists... I really want weather weapons to exist. He claims that the globalists have been able to create, steer and destroy hurricanes dating back to Vietnam when, of course, we were fighting beetle beings. Beetles. Yeah. Beetle beings.

Yeah. The tet. The tet species. Let's not mix up Alex Jones' bullshit and someone else's. That's Robert Davis. No, that wasn't even Robert Davis. No. Carol Kerry Cassidy and her source, the hypnotized Vietnam vet.

Yes. So now we get to this. Alex Jones in pursuit of his attacking the Pope has an interview with Leo Zagami. This is the first time I believe... Love Zagami. I believe this is the first time Zagami's actually been on the show. Right. We've talked about him before because of, I don't know why we talked about him.

Oh, that's excellent. He's popped up in some other... Who cares? The sex rumors. Oh, that's right. The Cardinals having the big sex orgy. But that's in present day. That's in 2017.

Oh, that's in 2017? Yeah. So this is pre-Cardinals having orgy. Yes. Yes. Okay. That was where my brain was having this difficult time. Right.

When was that? We are jumping back and forth in time. Yeah. This is why, you know... We need our constant. This is why we need... And that is that Alex Jones is wrong in both timelines. This is why HG Wells had some struggles later on in life.

Science fiction is just the fantasies of men. Anyway. That's an Alex Jones quote. I know. I know. Fantastic. Shakespeare. So we've dropped that bit.

He hasn't said Shakespeare too much. That's true. So he has Leo Zagami on and one quote that Zagami has is really difficult. And that is that he's saying that everything that he has and everything he knows is documented. But he is an Vatican insider and so he can get these documents that are very difficult to get, which is very convenient. Of course. Wait.

They are documented. Right. He doesn't have them. No. But he can get them. Yes. Has he seen them? Yes.

Okay. Allegedly. Because he's such an insider. Right. Now I'm going to play this clip of Leo Zagami explaining the beginnings of his waking up to the truth. Oh no. If you believe, if you listen carefully, you'll see that maybe he's not on the level.

And maybe Alex Jones just believes people who agree with what he believes in and have an accent. I think that there's something, there's a little credibility that Leo Zagami gets because of that. It is kind of sexy. Yeah. So you listen to this. So briefly, tell us about yourself, how you woke up, then are they getting stronger?

Are they getting weaker? Who runs the Vatican? Well, actually, how I woke up, you are probably one of the reasons why in the year 2000, 2001 I started to wonder what was really going on behind the scenes. Because even amongst that, among the network of Masonic network and of other secret societies, when we saw the Bohemian Grove, it created a debate. I remember myself discussing in Lodge, in London, your documentary. And actually, facing some of the masters there and telling them, what is this?

I mean, how it's possible to go there and participate in something like this or that world leaders are involved with something like this. And of course, this inspiration that you gave me, at one point, put me in front of the reality of what I had in these lodges, in these secret societies that I was involved in. And I decided that I no longer wanted to be involved. Actually, when I discovered some of their secrets. Oh, I discovered some of their secrets. So look, look, real close and hysterical.

Look, I discovered some of their secrets. I didn't mean for it to be that, but whatever. So look, Leo Zagami, his whole backstory that he's fleshed out on like Project Camelot interviews and his own biography is that he was a high ranking member of the Illuminati. He was a part of the real powerful Illuminati. And on Alex Jones's show, he's saying 2000, 2001, I started listening to you, Alex. I saw your bullshit documentary about Bohemian Grove and I was like, hold on, you are part of the Illuminati.

What the fuck? The Illuminati didn't tell you. Yeah. You said you were a high ranking member of the Illuminati. Now that's the. Are they keeping stuff away from you, Zagami? That's the problem. There are people get slippery and they're like, everything's compartmentalized.

Right. Left hand doesn't know what the right hand's doing. Of course. It's like Alex Jones told the truth about an organization I was a major part of and that's why that's why he doesn't want to be part of that organization anymore. I mean, he's lying about his past. First of all, that's just, he's definitely lying about Alex. I think he's buttering him up a little bit.

Oh, absolutely. Because he realizes like this is an outlet where I can boost my book sales and stuff like that. I'm getting more. Oh yeah. He realizes how many of his guests are opportunistic assholes who are using him. But be that as it may. Leo Zagami saying that is so invalidating of any of his positions, like you are the

reason I woke up. Fuck you Zagami. So anyway, they just talked. And all of the stuff. They just talked shit on the Pope. All the stuff that he said to Alex about what he, that is a cursory Wikipedia search. Absolutely. You know, like, oh, I know that you started a little bit before then I saw on the first

biography page, he came to prominence because of the Bohemian Grove done, done and done. Now I can just roll from there. Can I pause it? He did. Can I pause it? Slightly more research than Alex did on him. Can I pause it? An alternative?

What's that? I think it's entirely possible that Leo Zagami, the human was just a guy in Italy and did see Alex Jones's documentary in 2000 and started to become weird. And then he concocted this backstory that he was a high ranking Illuminati member in order to gain credibility within the worldview that Alex had exposed him to. All right, all right. Because there was the burgeoning internet community of distrustful weirdos and conspiracy theorists.

No, it is entirely possible that he could have found Alex at that time. Right. No. And that this entire backstory of being a Vatican insider and all this is just the reaction to seeing Alex Jones's documentary. All right. It might actually be true. It's impossible for us to know, but that is a story that I think fits the Occam's razor

analysis. Yeah. I think it's just a matter of timing. Is he that he finds out about Alex Jones in order to go on his show and talk shit? Or does he create his entire story out of what he thought he saw in the Bohemian Grove? Right. Was it a self-generated thing that was he just hallucinating the whole thing? I will tell you.

Or do you think he's completely out and out lying? I will tell you what I don't believe is possible, and that is what he just said. Yeah. I don't think that's possible. Of course not. But be that as it may. We got to move along to this next clip, Jordan, and this is the, you know, just more evidence that Alex Jones is pretty into Putin.

I love it. I studied Putin. He's obviously a hardcore guy, but he's trying to promote family, trying to promote having kids. They don't put flour on the water. Not for sure. His best friend's a newscaster. I'm going to skip this break.

Last one of the day. Propaganda. His best friend's a newscaster. That basically sounds like my show. And I've been told by the head of RT America years ago, the State Department didn't want me on there anymore, which is fine. It's not that big of a deal that they were upset that I was on there and that basically the directors of RT, both in Russia and here are huge listeners.

I was told this by their producers, by their top people, and told us in LA, I'm just going to leave it at that, where they have one of their main offices, and that the Russian government actually watches this show. Now, imagine you're told this, it's not a way to flatter me or get me to support them. I'm not into the Russians. They don't need me. I'm just promoting anti-globalism. It doesn't get more obviously what that is.

That is exactly what it is. Alex doesn't understand the idea of like cultivation of assets and stuff like that. Why does he not know it? It's right out of the Russian spy playbook. It's right out of just my playbook to become friends with people. Yeah, exactly. That's how this podcast started. Yeah, exactly.

I wanted you to think I was cool. That was it. Alex does not get at all like, again, like Zagami manipulating him in order to like bolster his credentials. He doesn't understand that the Russian people, the Russian propagandists are doing that with him. Well, he knows. It reached its logical conclusion with Alexander Dugan.

Yeah, of course. Well, he knows it's not that they're trying to butter him up because they said we're not trying to butter you up. Well, you got to take him at face value. Exactly. I can't know what lies in the hearts of men. Putin said he didn't interfere in the election, so obviously it must be true. Can't imagine a guy like Putin lying.

Ah, right. This goes on. Well, as Russia to continue on, I mean, I want Russia to be there. I want America to be there. I want diversity in countries. I want sovereignty. I'm just a patriot for humanity, a patriot for sovereignty, a patriot for due process, a patriot for firewalls to tyranny.

That's what countries are. Yeah, those are all. But you know, six, seven years ago, I thought, oh, you're just wanting me to, you know, be flattered. So I support you. They're like, no, no, we're not. And now I've seen these Russians were in awe every time they came here. Then I've seen now out of Russian television, it's like it's Alex Jones on Russian TV.

It looks like the Russians might have caught an anti-New World Order bug. I know that Putin started secretly meeting with Alexander Shultz and Nietzsche a lot, reportedly apologized to him. Now he's become a big Orthodox Christian like underground and thinks he's got to, you know, save Christendom. Or is that PR bull or is this how God works in mysterious ways? What the fuck? I look at Russian and it's becoming a look at Russian news and it's becoming a lot like

infowars is not a statement I like to hear. No, and then he's taking all this stuff from Russian official outlets that glorify Putin that say he's a secret Christian and he's trying to defend Christendom. This is insane. This is totally nuts. And Alex believes all of it. Yeah. Well, they said nice things about him.

Right. Absolutely. If you say nice things about Alex, that means you're on the level so Alex can trust whatever it is you say. He's a mix of a wide-eyed idiotic child and a complete and utter narcissist. So he'll believe anything so long as it makes him look nice. We should flatter him and see if he'll retweet us. Oh, I bet he would.

We should try that. Yeah, I'm going to try it. But anyway, yeah, that's crazy. And that's out and out regurgitation of Russian propaganda. So Alex, he rails about people saying that he's a Russian agent. I don't think anyone believes that. But what you did just there is what people are talking about. That's just out and out pro-Putin Russian propaganda that is not based in reality.

Now, we're done with the 24th. The 24th is behind us. We move on to September 25th when I believe Alex Jones as a manic episode begins in earnest. I think what kicked it off is that on the 25th, it was announced that John Boehner was stepping down as the speaker. So Alex thinks that he did it. Alex thinks that Alex defeated John Boehner. Yes.

Single-handedly. Well, not single-handedly because a couple of months back he had a guy named Walter Jones on who is a member of Congress who was trying to vacate the chair and trying to get John Boehner out. Alex had him on the show. They did an interview. An air go. Alex takes responsibility and thinks that, hey, we did it.

He is becoming a little bit into his power. He's starting to think that he has, there's delusions of grandeur that are going on. Not recognizing that, I think John Boehner probably smelled what was in the air and realized he could make millions of dollars as a fucking lobbyist. With far less stress. And he didn't want to be a part of the coming Trump storm, probably. Smart move. If you really look at the people who have come out of this the best, Boehner is up there.

Yeah, that's true. Because no one hates him anymore. Nope. And they should. We've moved on. Yeah. We got bigger fish to fry than you, Orange Monster. Way worse.

Yeah. Right now. Yeah, we traded one Orange Monster for a worse one. It is an incredibly smart move if all you're doing is looking out for profit and self-preservation to have left when he did. And he did. He left. Now, Alex pitches it as he was getting pressure from Walter Jones and his cadre of weirdos

within the house. And that Alex Jones, by pushing it on the Liberty program that is Info Wars, that they made it happen, which is a little bit wild. But what actually is motivating it even more is that Alex Jones has gotten a tip from somebody that I don't believe is credible. And it's feeding into his victim mentality as well as his sort of messiah complex. And I'll let him spell it out in this next clip. I caught myself this morning after I did some elliptical lifting weights, absolutely enthusiastic

and happy and proud of myself and satisfied to a degree that I have never been. I want to just stop right there for a second. Weird way to start. I want to stop right there for just one second and explain that that's what happens when you exercise. That's just a Dorfons. I look like a bag of trash, but I ride my bike for an hour and I go look at myself in the mirror covered in sweat.

I'm like, God damn it. I'm doing it. That's usually what happens when you don't exercise and you exercise. So anyway, Alex thinks it's something bigger. He's figured it out. I felt so manly, so honorable, so good that my conscience was giving me a type of energy I've never felt in my life. Is that a thing the conscience does?

No. Because when I got some of the news in the last year and more news yesterday confirming it that there's a major FBI white collar crime task force directly under Obama and the Justice Department, the Attorney General, with upwards of 20 people working 15 hours a day to find out some way to put me in prison and to shut down info wars. Let me just say that that is a waste of money. Yeah. There's no way, even if Obama was concerned with Alex Jones, there's no way that they're

paying the salary of 20 fucking agents to work around the clock over time, 15 hours a day in order for years trying to bring down info wars. That's time and a half. Hey, just give us a couple grand a month and we'll do it. Yeah. I was going to say, you don't need that. You don't need a lot of research. No.

You just need someone who's listening. Yeah. You just need someone disseminating what he's actually saying. Right. And that will take him down eventually. You would think. Because he's going to bring himself down. Everyone knows that.

Obama wouldn't even fucking swat at Alex if he was a fly on the wall. That's so crazy. But this is the delusions of grandeur. This is the manic episode coming out. Someone told him that and he's decided that this guy is credible. Right. The same way that Leo Zagami tells him all this shit about the Pope and he's like, oh, well, you're on the same page as me.

You must be right. Your caller calls in and tells him something. It becomes gospel. Well, you can measure yourself by the enemies that you have and if the president is spending all of those people, all of that man hour onto you, that gives you that sense of grandeur, of course. Right. And so that is another one of those things where if somebody tells him that, that builds

into his own legend. Yeah. And it makes him feel good. So he'll believe you. And it is like communicated onto his audience that you're a part of this too. You're a part of this really dangerous movement and it's all proud boys. It's all bullshit. Like the proud boys.

Right. So he goes on and this is like, this is delusional. I knew launching a TV network that's going to grow slowly and just be a new avenue in their dinosaur brains would really freak him out and scare him. And it certainly has. But thinking about my forebearers, thinking about the founding fathers, thinking about the founders of Texas, thinking about my ancestors in England and the things they did. I just really in my gut and my spirit understood that I was beginning to approach the stairs

to their ranks. And that's the most valuable thing in the world. It didn't fancy cars or big houses or hot tubs or Caribbean beaches that matter in the final equation. It is being honorable. It is standing up for what's right. It's being a good person and it is upholding your family name. Okay.

All right. Whatever. Like he really thinks he's beginning this hero's journey. He thinks that he is like, he's wielding Excalibur and he's going on this adventure climbing the stairs to legend. Like that's crazy. Well that's what everybody feels like when they start their own independent TV network. That's what you feel when you're in a manic episode.

If we started our own independent TV network, I think I know exactly how I would feel like that. I would feel overwhelmed with details. I would feel very nervous. But I mean, I would feel like a founding father. This is the same thing that a couple months back, Alex Jones was spouting when he had that night long vision dream. Oh yeah.

That's right. This is where we can sort of get a sense of when his brain chemistry goes off. We can get these sort of, you know. It's not exact science and we're diagnosing him not as doctors or as any ethical way. Oh, none. But you see discrete changes in his brain state and this is a hallmark. This delusions of grandeur pops up about around as best I can tell every 40 days or 80 days if he wasn't freaking out when he was in Europe.

So I'm going to keep track of it and see what happens about 40 days after this and I'll report back if my assessment is correct. And if so, I think if he doesn't have an episode within, you know, about a month or so, we know he's pregnant. Right. Or we just have to recalibrate our time frame because then the Europe trip really comes into the equation. But I'm telling you, this is manic shit real hard and it spills into this next clip, which

I think Alex Jones is trying out a new rhetoric or like rhetorical style, a new manner of speaking that I think he associates with, I would say he probably associates it with Malcolm X. I would say that he's probably trying to mirror revolutionary speakers and it doesn't work. You're a Shea Guevara's and whatnot. It just doesn't work, but I'll let you decide. And I can really say I am free. I knew when I crossed the threshold Bullhorning Bilderberg in 2006 and they sent Richard Holbrook

out when I did it. I could feel I was passing a line to another level of opportunity for freedom, but also danger. And I loved every minute of it. And I've passed other lines as well, but launching a TV network that'll take years to grow is only assigned to them to remind them of the indomitable human spirit that refuses to submit. It only reminds them of human empowerment and empowered individuals. I want to pause right there because that, the human spirit that refuses to submit gives

a good, gives a good raise of the fist to God, but he's also directly quoting himself from waking life. Yeah, that is a line for line, his speech in waking life, which is kind of like his past self coming out in his present self, which is super weird because they're very different people. Yeah. But be that as it may. The fact that we don't cower and fear to the system, they can't stand that.

And so they know full well, if word gets to me of what's going on, I'll come on here and talk about it. And they think you're cowards and that you're then going to roll over and fear and not become involved because, oh my gosh, the big bad government might come get you. Let me explain something. We've gone from one in 25,000 to one in 58 with autism. The CDC saying by 2025, one in three, maybe one in two, they already came for us. They came for our kids.

They already killed 55 million babies. They are still alive and sell their organs. They are. They're still good people. They've put fluoride in the water for 60 years. Massive IQ reductions, massive cancer increases, Harvard even admits it. They already came for us. We already got pancreatic cancer, liver cancer, cancer of the bladder, cancer of the kidneys

up multi thousand percent. They already came for us. They already drove down our wages, shut off our power plants, got rid of our jobs, destroyed our culture and now on the news again, this time mainstream British newspapers legitimizing pedophilia yesterday. They already came for us. Pedophilia on TV as if it's good. They already came for us.

They already got us. We're already slaves. You see that? Yeah. That's, yeah. The repetition right there? Yeah. Yeah.

That's a speech pattern that is foreign to us. That's so good. He imagines like his entire audience be like, yeah. Every time he said they already came for us, of course, imagining himself preach law. He thinks he's at a pulpit. Yeah. Like that's basically what's going on there. It's delusional and he's citing just complete misused statistics.

Like none of that is real and he's misinterpreting articles, mainlining pedophilia. Like everything is a lie. They've already came for us in my bizarre conception where I twist everything. It's so bizarre, but I love it. Like in terms of me being an Alex Jones researcher and like I love the little things that are interesting. And when Alex Jones flips his speech pattern like that, that's crazy to me because I've been listening to so much Alex Jones.

Yeah. He never talks like that. If anybody knows when he changes his speech pattern, it's you. He never talks like that using these tricks of repetition, using this. It's almost like Chris Rock stand up even like coming back to this, this thesis statement that you got, you drift off of and come back to. Yeah. It's a really powerful way to speak.

It's great. Yeah. It doesn't work. It's a great rhetorical trick. It doesn't work for Alex very well. If you can wield it. It also is really important that you have an audience like that response to it. Right.

Right. Like a call in response does usually require a response. Right. Like if you're some, you know, preacher that repetition allows for people to cheer. Right. Using it as a thesis statement that you repeat, it allows you to reset, but after everybody laughs, you say the thesis and it reminds people what the joke is about, what the bigger chunk is about.

Yeah. It's a skeleton. I would just hang all of these things off. Alex is talking to them alone in a fucking studio. It doesn't work. If he had a caller on the line, it might be better because at least they could be like, mm-hmm. Or if he was doing it while fucking diamond and silk were on the phone, that would have

been great. I do. I think they would be offended. Are you talking like that because of us? Yeah. Is that what's going on here? No, I apologize. I think you're, I think you might be racist, Alex.

Man, I apologize. It's not a race thing. I'm in a manic episode. I'm just crazy. I'm just losing my mind. So do you think that change in speech pattern is emotional rather than kind of calculated there? I think so.

I think it's the spirit got good to him in terms of thinking he took down John Boehner. Right. And thinking that he's about to have the FBI crash down on him with 20 agents that have been researching him for two years, all this bullshit. I think that it's a lot of that like he, and he exercised that morning. So, you know, he's got the testosterone flowing and the, what is it, the dopamine receptors are kicking. Uh, you know, he's, he's a little, a little bit of a euphoric state.

It's kind of, it's kind of a struggle for me to listen to this because I, I recognize so much of myself there and it's like, oh fuck, why am I empathizing with Alex O'Gurn? I know it's tough. It's tough, but when you look at him as a human, there are things that you're forced to empathize with, uh, that you may not want to, but that does not excuse any of his lies or his, uh, you know, his beliefs that are bullshit. No, I've managed, uh, I've managed through all of my manic episodes. I have never once, uh, told people that vaccines cause autism or rewritten the civil war.

Yeah. And I've never, the thing about him, especially in that little rant right there is he is dehumanizing autistic people. Like they came for us like autism is a punishment. Yeah. Like autism is like autistic people are still people and the vast majority of them are great people and totally functional. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. They're, they're wonderful. Yeah. Uh, he has a really twisted sort of belief about, you know, soft kills and what have you. Yeah. It's not worth, uh, diversity is also something worth celebrating there.

It's not worth getting into here though. His stupid beliefs about it. Cause I mean, we'd just be here all day if we want to talk about everything that he has wrong about vaccines, but be that as it may, uh, he gets into this next thing. He has an interview with Walter Jones, uh, and before that he plays John Bainer's speech because there he's, he goes live to CNN or whatever that's covering, uh, Bainer's resignation speech. And, uh, he does a little bit of a mystery science theater thing along with it.

And he says this that I think is telling. Because if you remember the recent, uh, campaigns. Everything probably still had died him down the road just to scare everybody. He would do this, but he would do that. And he embraced that problem was, I can't listen any more of it. Turn that person off, please. And some mummy up there doing the interviews. I'm sorry.

I shouldn't be turning into Donald Trump here. Sure. It's a great reporter. I don't know. Oh boy. I'm turning into Donald Trump here by making fun of a reporter, a female reporter. Yeah. Yeah.

So that's, it wasn't a disabled reporter, but that is a slight recognition, I think on his part, cracking through his, uh, insanity to be like, oh, I'm starting to see myself in him a lot more, which is, uh, which is trouble that, uh, I mean, we know the inevitable outcome of what happens. I think that might be a part of it. Yeah. Alex's ego. So, uh, here's another paranoid fantasy that he has about, uh, how much the

government cares about what he does. Right. Uh, and it's manic as hell. I mean, that's how corrupt this country is. You really think 96% of people, the feds in doubt are really guilty. You know, you really believe that? No, about half of them are completely innocent. His major studies, a third of people on death row, didn't do it.

DNA testing now shows. I remember the, uh, up in, uh, Round Rock, the prosecutor in Williamson County knew he was sending Michael Mortensen to prison and knew he was innocent. The guy had no criminal record. His wife had been killed. Why would you? I don't know why they do it. They just get off on putting good people in prison.

I couldn't think of a more demonic thing to do other than like sacrifice children or something. Yep. Yeah, that is government that aren't corrupt, but they're like in different divisions, so I only raised that show. We are big time. They know we're big time. They've tried to assassinate my name, everything they failed.

So they're moving the ball game and to the FBI's credit, they were ordered by the White House, according to multiple sources, two years ago to dig up something and they couldn't. So then it went to the FTC and back to the FBI. And I'm two years into this and I just, will they follow orders? I don't know. They've got a group out of DC reportedly will follow whatever order they're given. So whatever, I'm not afraid and it'd be like saying, are you afraid?

Some kidnappers are going to come. I mean, they're kidnappers. They're bad people. I mean, I'm not going to live in fear of it. Okay. I know this is and this is on records. I'm not scared of a SWAT team, right? Or something like that.

Even though that's what they're talking about doing just for the added media effect. Okay, why? We're not going to resist any of it. We're going to sit there and just be the martyrs we are politically and the whole thing will come out. See, that is just him like wreck in recognition of his, if you know his history, it becomes so much more.

He's fantasizing that it's going to be another Waco. Yeah. If they come, the FBI is going to come and SWAT team him. Of course, for the media effect. And he's, you know, you know how the media, you know, how great that worked out for the government last time that, that optic of burning all of us all of those people alive, but that's what he's evoking. That's what he's doing because he knows that his audience is also very pro

branch, Davidian and what have you and anti government in terms of that. Also on this show, he flat out says essentially that he knows that he's leading an anti government group. That's true. Like he compares him. So he's like, you don't think I know what I'm doing. George Washington knew what he was doing. And I'm no different.

That sort of thing is like, oh boy. So you're leading a revolution. Yeah. But your revolution is just anti government. That's fucked up. I don't think, I think those researchers are done. I think they just got there. I think they just got it.

You're, yep. Yep. Let's, let's get them in here on inciting violence. We can take off early this Friday. So it's a good thing we've been bleeding the government dry for a couple of years. Yeah. Look, you got to get your paycheck. Yeah.

Right. So this is Friday's episode and that's where our sort of analysis of stuff goes. And I've been remiss in pointing out that every day that we've been covering, they've been going to Jacarie Jackson and David Knight following the Pope around. And Alex Jones has been talking so much wild shit about the Pope. He is making every show, the focal point of it is Pope is a globalist. He is a demon. And he claims based on Lord Monkton's research,

who is a wacky dude who comes on Alex's show a bit. He said that if the Pope gets his way and they put in these carbon taxes, which nonsense, if the Pope is successful, a billion people will die based on Lord Monkton's analysis, which is like, I don't believe any of these, any of the little parts are a mess. And then you bring it into a hole. It's a huge mess. If they, if they implement a carbon tax, a billion people will die, that's some big math.

Lord Monkton is good at math. May have carried a one. He is a Lord. May have carried a one wrong. So, but my point is that Alex Jones has for a week been shitting on the Pope. Yeah. Then on Sunday. Is it just, is it just for like shock or just like it's a big enough target

and he's just got nothing else to talk about? It's hard to tell. Like why would you shit on the Pope that much? That seems, that seems too far for, especially for his audience, because they can't possibly care that much about the fucking Pope. Well, it's because the Pope has said that we have an obligation to care for the poor and the. Oh yeah. Nothing pisses off people more than that.

And the immigrants who are fleeing a certain death, we have an obligation to help them. He has advocated for positions like that. Alex Jones interprets that as he believes in one world government, open borders, all this stuff. So he's just become a focal head of globalism. He's like a globalist God in Alex's conception. Okay. But listen.

Because you can pin everything back to the Pope. Like all of his narratives can all be thrown into the Pope. Somewhat, yeah. And then you add on the actual true history of child abuse that exists within the Vatican. Absolutely. And you can pin all that on him. And Leo Zagami, of course, says that that is the case and that's why this Jesuit has become installed as Pope.

Yeah. Because he has a pedophile blackmail on everybody. Of course. So you have all of that wrapped up into this. But listen to this clip from September 27th. That's the Sunday show. The rest of the Sunday show is unnotable. It's a bunch of nonsense.

He talks about Lord Moncton. David Knight and Jakari Jackson make a little pop up appearance. And Alex. We're here at the world's tallest tree. Yeah. Might as well be quite frankly. Might as well be David and Alex or David and Jakari on the road. Yeah.

Alex Jones talks about George Soros. And he talks about how, hey, everyone says, you know, he would have been killed by the Nazis. And like, hey, if I were in that position, I'd say pull the trigger, man. And like Alex would be very unfair. But even that is him recognizing that as a hiding Jew during the Holocaust, George Soros had no ability to buck the system at all. Alex Jones is recognizing that and he's still lying about what George Soros did. Because he's still saying that he rounded up Jews and stuff like that, which he absolutely didn't.

He bases all of this on a 60 minutes interview that has nothing to do with this stuff. It's all bullshit. But be that as it may, I think it's particularly disgusting that he recognizes that it would be certain death for George Soros to do anything out of line. And he's like, yeah, pussy, I would have taken death. Yeah. All right, Alex, you're a liar, first of all. And second of all, how dare you?

How dare you insult someone's decision in that kind of a situation? The only way you can do that is if you kind of deny the Holocaust. And it was mostly about Jews that didn't pay ransoms. That's really the only way you can do that and not think of yourself as a fucking horrible person. Anyway, this clip from the show is he has an interview with a guy named Joe Bannister, who Alex presents him as a guy who the government tried to shut down his free speech. I don't know his whole history. I don't really care.

It's not important to what's going on. The two of them have an interview and the Pope comes up and Joe Bannister has a pretty decent argument and a pretty decent position. And then Alex makes an incredibly startling admission. Now, I think that there's certain messages that Pope Francis puts out there talking about the Beatitudes and all kinds of things, defending the unborn that I happen to agree with. But again, it's not like Catholics have to be lockstep about these other matters. They call them prudential matters.

You use prudence, prudential judgment to determine, well, what is really the safest and the most just way to deal with these issues. So anyway, that's why that's the key point. Maybe the media is taking statements he makes and only taking those out of context to misrepresent overall is being said because I can get really nasty and I want to be fair about it. So I'll have to investigate that. He just straight up admitted that he doesn't know anything about the Pope. All he knows is stories that he's read.

And as we have clearly demonstrated, he has a fucking bad media diet. He read stories on Breitbart zero hedge and pro Russian propaganda sites that are critical of the Pope and these one world government stances, a week of shitting on the Pope culminates with him being like, well, maybe the media is taking him out of context. You fucking idiot, you fucking asshole. You're the worst. That's agree. Hey, better late than never, right?

Better late than never. Why admit it on the air? What else is he going to do? He could fuck it. He was bored. No, he could fight. He is so terrible. That's hilarious.

So if you think, if you think that's where this is going to end, this Pope shit, you're wrong. Oh, wait, it's because that was Sunday. And now our last day of the investigation, the 28th, Alex is back on his bullshit. He's back on hating the Pope again. He is because he has found a kernel of something he can get mad at. Oh, there we go. And here we go. So he did do the research.

Here's how he starts out the show on Monday. Well, you have to see it and hear it to believe it. The Pope says that Christ failed on the cross. The entire of Christendom is based on Christ laying down his life willingly in the face of death and hell and being tortured to forgive us of our sins. The ultimate sacrifice. God sacrificing his son and echo of Abraham about to sacrifice his son,

but God following through on it. Let's roll the grand love kids and what he had to say in Philadelphia yesterday. And if at times our efforts and works seem to fail and not produce fruit, we need to remember that we are followers of Jesus Christ and his life humanly speaking ended in failure. The failure of the cross. And then you go to the full clip. I have the transcript.

He doesn't continue to say, but then Christ succeeded. He just says he failed. So that's so, so dumb, so dumb. What he's saying is on a human level, he failed. That's death. Death is a failure. Yeah, and he knew it because he cried out. Why have you forsaken me?

Exactly. That's the whole point. I thought this was going to go differently. Yeah, or whatever. There's a lot of ways to interpret it. That'd be a way better, way better guys. I thought this was going to end up differently. Yeah.

And then he dies. But like the point that the Pope is trying to make, and it's super obvious, is that oftentimes we get discouraged by not seeing the results of our actions on the human plane. And within the times of our lives, you may not see that. The cross is a failure on human terms, but it's not in general. Exactly. And everyone fucking knows that's what he's saying.

But this is crucial. Alex has this to say about that. And of course, Christ rose again if you are a Christian and you believe that, and it was the greatest triumph. And his full quote is very... Yeah, do you get it? Jewitical is the term they use, or Jesuit-oriented. Hillary says she runs her life according to Georgetown Jewitical thinking,

where you could get what he's saying that Christ physically was killed, but had the greater triumph, but it's very twisted and has double meanings. This is the underpinning of the entire worldview that Alex Jones espouses. There's double meanings to everything. I'm not stupid in misinterpreting clear statements that people make. They're using doublespeak. So that's why he can go to John P. Erlich's textbook about ecoscience, and he can say he's using doublespeak.

He's saying that they're putting stuff in the water, when that is not in the text at all. That is not what John Erlich is saying, but because Alex Jones has this conception that these globalists, what they do is they double talk. Everything is code. He can just say that anybody is asserting either what they're saying, or the opposite of what they're saying, or something in between.

He can just make up meanings for anything. Yeah, this is a problem. This is a big problem. This is a big problem. I like it when words mean things. It means a lot to me that words mean things. And this is why he can take stuff like that purple penguins thing, and say like, no, no, no.

It's code. Yeah. So when he says they're trying to outlaw mother and father, man and wife, boy and girl, there is no evidence of that. There's nothing in any story that has any credibility that is what people want. But because he sees the double talk, he sees the doublespeak that people are doing, he can see transgender advocates saying,

hey, let's not gender things that don't need to be gendered. And he can be like, oh my god, they're trying to outlaw a boy and girl. You guys just don't see it. You don't see the doublespeak that I see. And it's like, no, dude, you're brain damaged. You have, you're fucked up. You see things that aren't there. You're fighting ghosts.

There's a globalist cabal that you've imagined in your head from bullshit you read when you were fucking too young to understand how the world works, and you're functioning off it as a 40 fucking year old man, and you've created a system wherein, oh, everything doesn't mean what it, means, or it means whatever I want it to mean, and you're making millions of dollars fucking lying to people about it, and you should be deeply ashamed of yourself. Anyway, you all right, Dan?

Yeah, I'm good. I just love it when you get angry. I'm so mad. I get to, I just, I just get to sit here and breathe. And then I think, oh, it feels so good. Is this what Dan feels like when I go yell? Someone, I worry about the levels. Yeah, you are much more under control.

I just, I have a history of knowing how things are going to sound when they come into mics. But like, I fucking, I know that that's what he does, and I've known it the whole time, and him just admitting it there in service of demonizing the Pope after he's already admitted on the Sunday show. I don't fucking know. I don't really know anything about the Pope,

except for what the media tells me. It's so evil. This is so manipulative. And it is, it is right back to that paranoid projection where it's like, you are, you are mad at him because you live in a world where that's what you do. Totally. So if you do that, obviously the people you are fighting against

are doing that. Yeah. So that's why, this, this gets back to that same level of hopelessness in like, how do you speak to somebody who words don't mean anything to? You don't. Hopefully you educate. I mean, it's too late for Alex.

He's way too old and he's way too set in his ways. But ideally what you would do is you would like, bolster a public school system. That would be great. Yeah, that would be smart. Teach logic, teach rhetoric. Because I think that those are things that aren't really well handled by the result oriented and standardized

testing oriented public schools. But I think if you gave people a handle on logic young, it would really enable them to understand arguments. It would really help them decipher bullshit. Right. Beyond that. And that's why they hate it so much. That's why they hate it, especially with the right wing.

They hate it because that is not what they want to teach in their home. No, no, no, no. What we should do is take parents away from their children. We should take, look, we should outlaw mothers and fathers because they're the root cause. Like if Alex Jones didn't have a mother or father, we wouldn't have Alex Jones.

Finally. So we, we get out of, we get them out of there. Right. We're getting to what our point has been all along. I don't even like, I don't even like genders. I want to get rid of mother and father. I think it should just be parent. Right.

And I think we should let the children choose their own gender. 02:37:52,040 --> 02:37:52,360 Really. That seems like the only way to do it. And teachers should be jacking them off with their five. Absolutely. This is what, this makes perfect sense. I mean, you're being satirical, but be that as it may.

I don't know. Maybe the way to defeat Alex Jones is just to do what Alex Jones is afraid of. Well, no, absolutely not. If we all just start doing it. No, no, no, no, no. Absolutely not. But the other thing, the reason that I included rhetoric

in there with what I want them to be teaching, what they should be teaching, is because it was a part of classical education, that like rhetorical devices, skills, the ability, like oratory, it's something that people should study because it enables you to tell much like when we were very obviously able to tell two things on this episode based on studying rhetoric.

One, whenever Alex Jones does one of those voices, he's lying. Right. You can tell because that's a rhetorical trick he uses. Second, when he starts putting on the Malcolm X impression, you can tell that something's going on there. You can tell that he's full of shit and probably in a weird headspace

because you know his rhetoric. You know the tools that he employs. And if students in primary education would be taught those sorts of things, you would be much more able to see a politician and be like, hold on now. I know what you're doing. You're what abouting or you're othering.

You're doing all these standard tricks that Democrats and Republicans use. I'm not just saying. No, it's exactly what you're saying. The people who know these who are taught rhetoric are using it against people who aren't. Right. That's why that's what it is.

It's why a lot of these fucking, the worst problem people in the world are people who took debate class. Yeah. It's because they know these things. Right. And they know how to essentially hypnotize people with their language.

They use like neurolinguistic programming type tricks. And then on top of that, just there's so many dodges to arguments. Like if you get into an argument with someone like a Paul Joseph Watson or an Alex Jones, they have so many tricks at their disposal. If you confront them with, hey, you think that everybody is saying two things when they're saying one

and you pick cherry pick, which one you want to believe is what they mean. And you can bring up examples and stuff like that. They'll turn it on to like, what about vaccines? Yeah, exactly. Or whatever. There's so many tricks that you can use. And if you understand rhetoric and logic,

there are ways that you can shut that shit down or at least recognize it and be like, oh, you're not worth talking to. Yeah, exactly. You're just trying to mislead me. Yeah. And then you can move along to something else. Yeah.

So anyway, education is obviously the key now. Yeah. Our education isn't to stop Alex Jones. It's to stop you being fooled by him. You shouldn't be tricked by any of these assholes. 02:40:34,920 --> 02:40:35,640 Yeah. The Cernovich's, Pesobics, all of them assholes.

Or whoever. No. And the one. If somebody's trying to deceive you, if you know how to deceive people, you're going to be better at sussing it out. Yeah. And like, let's be clear.

All of the, all these people who are a problem now weren't a problem five years ago. Like Jack Pesobic wasn't really in the mainstream. No one really knew who he was or anything like that five years ago. And now he exists and he is a mess. In the same way, I mean like, Cernovich was involved with Gamergate stuff and shit like that.

But before that, he wasn't really a notable prominent problem. So five years from now, there's going to be other assholes. And if you just use the same awareness that you can have about Alex Jones or about Mike Cernovich, the next time around, you won't be tricked by his bullshit or her bullshit, whoever the next version of this is.

And that is what I would hope to see in the world. And I don't think we're going to. But be that as it may. Yeah, we need some sort of vaccine. Yeah. Probably. That's really what it is. Truth vaccine.

Yeah. All right, so Jordan, the last clips we have to cover, we have a couple more left. And I will say that they're just good fun, with the exception of the last one, which is an update on Trump stuff. But here is Alex Jones responding to some space news. Excellent.

Space command. We have huge economic news. We have massive news. NASA scientists find evidence of flowing water on Mars during the summer. Mars is extremely habitable. Mars is extremely habitable. Everybody knows this.

That's why they put bases on there. That's why they steal kids, make them work as slaves on Mars. Frankly, you know what I've been hearing from my NASA sources? It's too habitable. Too many people could live there. One of the main problems with this idea that Mars is habitable is there's not really much oxygen. That's really one of the problems.

With a weather weapon, you can turn that into an oxygen-rich zone easily. I think even if you have a weather weapon, you have to have shit to work with. Not important. So the breakdown of the atmosphere content on Mars is oxygen is 0.13%, which is not enough to breathe. It doesn't seem like enough.

It's really pretty much all carbon dioxide, which would kill everybody who ends up on that. Plant some stuff. That's how it works. I have some plants. They eat up carbon dioxide. I breathe their air. You bring a couple of plants with you to Mars.

You're good. That's actually on a massive scale, not a terrible idea in terms of that except. What's wrong? There isn't flowing water. There is a history of flowing water. No, no, no. There's flowing water.

Millions of years ago. No, in the summers. Yeah. So dumb. But Alex Jones believes really dumb stuff about space. And here is another one. This is Alex Jones accidentally walking. What was the movie?

Was it Mission to Mars? The one where Gary Sinise and Don Cheadle go to space. And Gary Sinise joins the Martians. It's a whole thing. I don't remember. Like they left signals behind for us to follow. I don't remember. But I do know that sci-fi is just the dreams of men.

So this. What about fantasy? It's the nightmares of men. What about creative nonfiction? It is the astral projections of men. Ooh, that's good. I like that. So this next clip, Alex Jones accidentally

walks into my backyard. Oh, no. Are we going to get busted? I'm going to tell him to get out of that backyard here in a second. Mars, it has an atmosphere. It is habitable. Simply amazing.

And we now know what the ancients said in legend, that it wants out a thicker atmosphere and oceans. And it lost its atmosphere. The Atlantean legends written about by Plato. Were about Mars? Claim that there was a connection to Mars and Atlantis and that Atlantis lost its atmosphere and that Mars lost its atmosphere and that we're connected to Mars.

I don't know if that's true or not. The ancients said it, now it's coming true. The ancients said it, now it's coming true. I don't know if it's true. I don't know if it's true, but it's coming true. Here's what I know. That's not in Plato. Look, Atlantis lost its atmosphere, which we all know.

That's what happened. They died of oxygen starvation. And then Mars lost its atmosphere simultaneously. I don't know. Listen, here's the deal. What is the deal? We've gone over this a little bit in the past. And Atlantis is a big passion of mine.

It's a big passion of yours. Plato talks about it in Timaeus and Critius, the two dialogues. And he doesn't say anything about fucking Mars at all. That's complete made up by Alex, except it's not. I'll get to that in a second. He's ascribing pseudoscience, Edgar Cayce-type stuff to Plato, because he knows if he's like, oh. And David Bowie.

If he was like, oh, these theosophists, they told us of past lives on Atlantis and Mars. If he did that, everyone would be like, oh, shit. You're into New Agey bullshit. Instead, he claims that what theosophists were saying is what Plato was saying. And then he's like, I'm just a classicist. And then it lends him an heir of unearned legitimacy.

Right. The actually has nothing to do with Mars and Plato. It has to do with Poseidon. Poseidon was the king of Atlantis. And his offspring were the reason that it was. I was going to say, my first thought when he starts talking about Mars and Plato, I'm like, you are talking wrong because they're

speaking more about the god. Oh, you're thinking of Mars, the Roman deity? Yeah. I'm saying that he's deliberately confusing those. No. What he's doing is he's using like some of this very, very dubious type of these channeled materials and stuff like that from these people like Edgar Cayce

talking about past lives on Atlantis and things like that, that build up the robustness of the Mars narrative and the Atlantis narrative as it were. Excuse me. But also, what he's doing is he's bringing in ancient aliens. He's bringing in these Eric von Daniken type bullshit. He's bringing in stuff that has to do with the emerald

tablets of Thoth. Oh, what's the emerald tablets of Thoth? We'd be here for another fucking hour. That's exactly how long I want to be here. As long as it takes to get to the bottom of the emerald tablets of Thoth. We could do an entire episode on this pseudo-scientific nonsense, this weird spirituality.

That's another Project Camelot episode coming. I wish. I'll go on Project Camelot, Talcaria. All about this shit. OK, so there's this pseudo-spiritualist belief in Atlantis that has to do with, so there's a planet that's called various different things. Maldic is one of the things it's called.

Makes sense. There were Martians. It already has the ring of truth. There were Martians and aliens on this planet, and they ended up blowing up the planet and killing everybody on it because they got too interested in the tinkering, and they created atomic weapons, and they blew up the entire planet.

Isn't that the story of Krypton? Basically. So these souls needed somewhere else to reincarnate because they had to work out their karmic debt, and what have you. And so there was negotiations. This goes into Hollow Earth shit, too. It gets real deep.

What about Xenu? Is Xenu involved yet? Xenu is tertiary. He's on the side. He's in the sidelines waiting to get in, coach. So there is a planetary, I don't even fucking know. They had negotiations and these. They had negotiations.

OK. These beings were allowed to reincarnate on Earth. And so they reincarnate on Lemuria, right? See, even they can compromise, all right? They allowed illegal immigrants into Earth. See, this is a far better world. That's perfect. So they reincarnate on Lemuria to work out

their karmic debt, and what have you. And they end up creating a bunch of weapons and blowing up Lemuria. So then they go to Atlantis and they do their exact. They're bad at working out their karmic debt. Right. So they go to Atlantis and they do the same things that create nuclear weapons, and they end up

blowing up Atlantis. And then we're here in modern day. Here's the problem. We've created these weapons. We've used them. They haven't blown up the world, and they haven't blown up any. They haven't, like, we've dropped nuclear weapons, and it didn't even destroy Japan, which is an island.

So, and according to these legends, Atlantis was even bigger than that. And yet it was destroyed by the, here's the reason. Well, they had better nuclear weapons, obviously. Here's the reason that I. If you've ever seen the movie Atlantis, you know it's easy for them to destroy things, because they have the 12 stone statues that

put their hands together. That's fair. And then, you know, wall of light. That's as legitimate as the shit Alex Jones does. Yeah, exactly. So I. I prefer that version. As I tell you these things that people believe

that are nonsense, I need to make clear that I know that Alex Jones has to be aware of some of this, and this is where it's coming from. Because the idea that there was a connection without her space and Atlantis is all from this. It has nothing to do with Play-Doh. Play-Doh didn't talk about that shit at all. So he's getting that from a source that

has to be in line with the Vondanican, the, what's the other guy's name? The, uh. Who cares? Yeah, the other. The guy's from Ancient Aliens. Yeah. Maybe he just watched an episode of Ancient Aliens.

It's entirely possible. This is 2015. That's entirely possible. But then again, he always talks about the Atlantean legend, and that he always talks about how we're getting to this Atlantean moment. And that is the idea that Atlantis created nuclear weapons and blew itself up, which comes from this pseudo-scientific,

pseudo-spiritualist, theosophist branch of nonsense. If you actually are really just going off of Play-Doh, which is, you know, a respected source in many ways, whatever he's talking about, Atlantis is very unspecific. But he talks about it like the destruction of Atlantis was the punishment of God because they were too war-like. They went around and they disrespected the will of the gods. They fucked with the Athens.

It was too much. So they got destroyed by the gods because they became too decadent. It wasn't that they created nuclear weapons and then destroyed themselves. He takes his entire idea of the metaphor of Atlantis from these bullshit sources and claims it comes from Play-Doh. It's fascinating to me.

And again, I could do an hour on this. Of course. I love it because he's so dumb. And he should not be talking about Atlantis. Well, it's the same myth of fucking Babylon and whatever ones that you want to get to, turning around and turning into a pillar assault and all that bullshit. Yeah.

But I just don't like it when he does it with Atlantis. That's Gomorrah and Sodom, yes. But I just hate it when he does it with Atlantis because that's my shit. I love that. You stay out. You stay out, Alex. This is Dan's backyard.

So we have two more clips. This one is just for you. Mike down. But I know you love Alex Jones' fake laugh. This is you getting, you know, be careful what you wish for because this is too much of his fake laugh. I'm just going to go fake laugh, fake laugh, fake laugh. That's why you have to have the mic down.

OK, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine. So here we go. This is the worst fake laugh I've ever heard in Alex Jones. Coming up, Israel will allow police to fire live ammunition at protesters. And I just love this Orwellian article on the Los Angeles Times. I'm going to cover when we come back because whether you're

for Israel or against Israel, whatever, it is the most Orwellian. You want to know how they sell it. They say basically if you're a demonstrator, they're going to shoot you with lead ammunition. But don't worry, it's small caliber. Two, two, three. They're acting like it's not lethal.

Two, two, three is one of the most deadly rounds there is. It disintegrates when it hits you and opens up because they wanted to kill more people and main more people in Vietnam. And so they had to have full metal jacket under the Geneva Convention. So they made a full metal jacket, hypervelocity round that breaks up when it hits bone.

It's basically a fragmentation kinetic weapon. Any bullets a kinetic weapon, but it's a fragmentation kinetic weapon that gets around the Geneva Convention. Something. We're going to shoot you with two, two, three from a rigor range rifle and it's OK. Oh my god. See, I said I'd cover after the break.

I just had to cover it right then. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm crying. That's so hilarious. Oh my gosh. That is the funniest thing I've ever heard in my life. We're going to shoot you with an M16 round. But don't worry, it's small caliber.

I'm sorry. I'm going to stop right there. You better. That's crazy. That's a lunatic. That is. He thinks it's so funny. What the fuck is that?

I don't know, because he's not, that's not real laughter. I mean, if you watch the video, he's like, he's really hamming it up and putting his head over his eyes. Very bad acting. Yeah, that's terrible. But the idea that he would want to present that he thinks that it's so funny is bizarre, even on its own. The idea that that is the funniest thing he's ever

heard is incredibly fucked up. Oh, yeah, no. Misusing him, knowledge about ammunition. Of course, that's hilarious. So the Israelis can get away with killing civilians. That is hilarious. You could have gone for a little bit longer. I could have.

I just don't have the energy. We're three hours into this podcast. That's the funniest thing I have ever. I wonder what his real laugh sounds like. Is it like Frank Drescher? I don't think he has one. I don't think he has one. I bet it's embarrassing, and that's why he doesn't do it.

I bet it's like, like a real Drescher laugh. I really don't think that he has a genuine laugh. That's fair enough. Also, I'd like to say I liked Frank Drescher's laugh when I was a kid. I had a big crush on her, and I'm glad that she's revolutionary. You did not need to reveal that information at all.

I think she was a very attractive lady. Anyway, this investigation, like we've said, though you would not know by listening to it, is all about trying to find out when Donald Trump came into Alex Jones's sphere, as Alex being his propagandist. So I'm going to leave you with a cliffhanger. Not really.

He brings up, Trump says something or news breaks on the 28 that is relevant to Trump's campaign. And Alex Jones, I'll just let him take the wheel and let you make of this what you will. I let Jesus take the wheel. Trump has come out with, I've read over the Wall Street Journal article, what really makes sense as a super-duper tax program.

A massive tax decrease for the middle class and the nouveau riche and the working poor. Not as big as what Kennedy did, but similar. And a whopping 10% levy on all, which it should be like 50%, on all the multinational US-based companies that wrote the laws where their tax exempt, so they take all their profits outside. Trump understands we need to bring a large portion

of that money back, but it shouldn't be 10% because they haven't paid more than 20 years, basically any taxes. They take their profits outside the country to tax-exempt havens. And so we need to drag that money back in. It's time for the globalist, General Electric, Google, Apple.

It's time for the Fortune 100, Lockheed Martin. All of you guys. America built you, gave you the power over the planet, and now you want to sink it so you can politically control it? No. You are going to send that money back in here. You took that money out of this country. You're going to bring that money back into this country.

Three important points. One, he's saying America built you, which is very similar to you didn't build your business, which is something he's very mad at Obama for saying. Second thing, I forgot what the one of them is. But oh, no, no, it's that he's grossly mischaracterizing Trump's tax proposal. Oh, it was nonsense.

It was nothing like this. No, no. Also, I like how he thinks nouveau rich is not just rich people. Yeah. Like, oh, no, no, no, he's not going to tax people who are newly rich. Yeah, yeah, it's really old rich. You have to, on your tax forms, you

have to write when you became rich. Right, right. Based on your taxes. Yeah. How old's that money? How old's that money? But then, the other thing that I think. Great game show.

Alex is a fucking idiot. Or he's willfully lying. Because you know who runs a multinational corporation based in America? I can't think of anybody. Donald fucking Trump. Wait, what? Yeah.

Hold on. They still allow him to do that? He's running for president. We don't want any kind of conflicts of interest there. I'm assuming, since this is 2015, the laws will kick in. And we will know that he doesn't have, he's divested from, oh, wait, no, he's not. He's not.

He's fucking doing the shit. Fuck. But Alex. Fucking Dan. Alex can't possibly think that Donald Trump is so selfless, that he's going to create a giant tax burden for companies very similar to the one that he owns. That's what he said he was going to do, Dan.

That's so crazy. Look, that's so stupid. If RT said that they weren't buttering them up, you believe them. Right. Trump says that he's going to cost himself money as he has been known to do his entire life. Absolutely.

You know how Trump is always like, how do I give more of my money away? Right. How do I make sure that I am not the only person taken care of? He used his own charity's money to pay for his son's enrollment in the Boy Scouts. Yeah. That's fucking what he does.

That's normal. No. His son used his own charity's money to pay Trump to play golf. Right. You know, this is normal stuff. That's not the act of someone who's going to selflessly. That's a man who wants to raise his own taxes, Dan.

That's what that is. He's begging for it. That's all he's want. It's like he's like a dominatrix. That's what he wants. He's begging for someone to raise his taxes to 100% when he goes to fucking prison. Oh, yeah.

But he's a financial dom. That's what he is. Be that as it may, it also contradicts things that Alex has said about Trump in the past. It absolutely does. Like, his characterization of Donald Trump has become something very positive, as opposed to this guy's a scumbag.

He's a predator. The fact that he said for a long time, I don't trust him. Yeah. And then he hears this dumb shit. Right. And he's like, well, of course I trust him. I tacitly trust this. Yeah.

Of course. So stupid. Unbelievably stupid. So I don't believe it. Or he got a shit ton of money from the money bomb. That's possible. So that's the last clip we're playing. We're going to leave it here until the next phase

of the investigation. But at this point, even after that, does say I'm not endorsing him yet, he is still in the same place. But that's it. There is no foundational progress. No, but we're seeing it happen so slowly. It's kind of disappointing.

There's no, it seems like it's just a buildup of him hearing things repeatedly. And he just can only hold one idea in his head at the same time. Yeah. But there will be a day when he's like, all right, I love this guy. Yeah. And that is what we need to find.

That is the day. That's what this is after. Man, Roger Stone's got to show up soon. Right? His time is running out. Right. I don't know when it is, but he's got to come soon. Anyway, this has been an interesting road

that we've gone down. It's been fun. But if you'd like more fun, you can find it at knowledgefight.com. Excellent work. Oh, let me say this too. I forgot to say this. I thought we were doing our plugs, but fine. I forgot to say this at the beginning of the show.

And I just want to give an explanation for why we've been in the past for so long. Not great that I'm doing it three hours into the show. Most people maybe won't hear this. Most of your introductions wind up happening at the end of the show. I will have said, you can go to our website. And that's when I assume most people turn it off.

But be that as it may, the reason is Alex has been out of studio the last couple days of last week, like Friday, Thursday, he's been out of the studio. And even before that, he was just trolling. He's just trolling people. He's doing this like people kept posting that he's keeping a dossier of his enemies' dick sizes

and stuff like that. That's just him trying to get more attention in the same vein as the We Love Our Somalis song contest. It's all just trying to get people to bait. Just grab this bait. I'm going to reel you in. Yeah, the dick size thing, it's a joke, but people will come and hear the truth from me.

It doesn't work that way, but it's still nonsense. He just, he still ends up making a lot of money off ad revenue and shit like that. So don't fall for it. It's all super boring. And then at the end of last week, Ryan's Prebis got the axe. Now, it's Jones, much like his argument

that he got John Boehner. He took credit for Ryan's Prebis going down with me. Absolutely. Okay. And to some extent, yeah, maybe he did have some source that told him that it was going to go down. And that's the drum he's been banging. And it's possible, but I'm not interested

in scoops like that. That's not an exciting scoop to me. That's palace intrigue. I don't give a shit about stuff like that. I don't care if you, like he's been hating Prebis for months. It's not like he has some sort of inside information. He thinks he's a globalist holdover. Like that's what he just hates Ryan's Prebis.

So the fact that he gets fired is like. I mean, he's not alone. Right. But him saying we called it earlier this week. Yeah. That doesn't really mean anything. You called it four months ago. Yeah, I was going to say, it's not like he said

Ryan's will be out by the end of the week. No, maybe he did. I don't fucking know. Who cares? But even, he said that before too. Even then his, he can claim that because the same people who got rid of Prebis are the people that he, who already agree with him.

And, you know, like Bannon is the guy who gets rid of Prebis because of fucking course he does. Bannon hates that guy. Alex and Bannon are the same, same fucking dude. And, you know, he's, we got Anthony, we got, we got Scarimucci in there. I would be fucking blown away if he wasn't Alex's source. The Prebis is going to be gone.

Probably. The way he has these loose lips with journalists. Oh yeah. And he's a fucking shit talker. And Alex and him have some sort of connection. I'm not entirely sure what it is. They seem to have at least positive feelings mutually. I would not be surprised at all if Scarimucci,

while demonizing Ryan's Prebis for being a leaker, is leaking shit to Alex Jones. Oh, of course he is. And Mike Sernovich and what have you. But be that as it may, it's just boring. The presence is boring. And we'll get back to it eventually, but I just don't care to fall into his stupid trolling tricks.

And at the same time, if David Knight, Paul Joseph Watson are in studio, we're not covering it. No. So we'll see what happens this week, but until further notice. The only way that we cover David Knight or Paul Joseph Watson being in studio is if they are hit by the missing Malaysian plane.

Or if Alex Jones is. If the Malaysian plane went into a Stargate and then comes out and lands on the Info War Studio, I will definitely talk about that episode all day. Or if Alex does get SWAT teamed and David Knight has to fill in, we might have to deal with him in order to just to get the narrative. Anyway, you can find us at knowledgefight.com.

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How do you feel about him? You know, I go back and forth, but right now I think he can go fuck himself. Go fuck yourself, John Rappaport. Amen. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex.

I'm a first name caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.