Knowledge Fight - #688: May 25, 2022

Episode Date: June 3, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan continue to track Alex's response to the Uvalde shooting.  In this installment, Alex treads water for a bit, and leans on his callers to bring some weirdness to the conversation. Citations

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George, knowledge fight. I need money. Andy and Kansas, stop it. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding me. I'm a huge fan. I love your word. I love you. Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Ride. I'm Dan. I'm George. We're couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan. Jordan. Dan. Jordan, Dan. Quick question for you. What's up? What's your bright spot, buddy? You go first. Dan, you ever hear of a little country called France? Oh, we. Yeah, you ever hear of a little game called Tennis? C3B.

Well, my friend, you ever hear of a little guy named Raphael Nadal? How's it going? Yes, he, he and Jokovic played again just like last year. But you remember how I told you about last year and how they played the most amazing third set ever and then Rafa got injured and it was so sad. Sure. Right, right, right. The opposite happened this time, right? They played the most amazing tennis ever and then they kept playing the most amazing tennis ever and then Rafa played the most amazing tennis ever and wound up with very animated here. Amazing. It was amazing. You can't beat it. You can't beat it. I mean, Jordan, that sounds like some great tennis. It was a great tennis. Well, I'm happy for you. It was really

fun and enjoyable. And Rafa won. That's a great outcome and a great way to get there. Same. Look at me summon things. I put it on my like a great journey radio professional hat. Yeah. All right. Now we're going to go to the top 40. I'm having a difficulty coming up with a bright spot necessarily. So I'm going to say, look, this is going to be controversial frozen waffles frozen waffles. Yes. Frozen waffles. Well, I had a broken toaster for quite a while and a toaster oven. And so I had not been able to toast things and I just recently got a new toaster oven. And one of the things that I was like, I haven't had this in a while frozen waffles. How about it?

And so I got frozen waffles. Yeah. And you know what? They work as a fine like if you want to make a sandwich totally you can make a breakfast sandwich 100 frozen waffles. Absolutely. Works as a great bread underrated. Also, thank you to everybody who explained to me that sauce things are called ramekins. Great. I don't know if we have had such an aggressive response on anything. Yes, that's right. Chumbawamba and ramekins are the two. Oh my God. The Hills people will die on. Holy shit. Really took it on the chin on that one. It was intense. So thank you to everybody. I now know to Google ramekins. Links. So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. We're going to be talking about May 25th, 2022. So one of the things we talked about

having an episode on Wednesday and we did not because I kind of wanted a little bit more clarity about stuff. I felt like we still really had our feet on shaky ground in terms of knowing a lot of the concrete details about the police response about the actual circumstances of the shooting. And unfortunately, I still think we do. We're not on solid ground still. No, the ground is shaking around us. Right. But we can't really put things off too much longer in terms of, I mean, we have, you know, right, optional episode on Wednesday. Right. Gotta go to something. Yeah. But so what I'm thinking, and I actually kind of was kicking around this idea anyway, I'm going to slow things down a little bit and take a look at this time more completely,

I think, especially this period where these reports are coming out about the, you know, contradictory statements that the police are making. Right. And check in on Alex's coverage over the course of it. So you can see any kind of nuance or details that go on in his coverage. Yeah, it is, it is interesting to see how he would react to each change in the story. Right. And we're not in any particular rush to figure out what he said yesterday or, you know, talk about that. So I think that this, this could be a good exercise of our time. And, you know, if we take it slowly enough, eventually we might get to the point where you have concrete information about the police response. Yeah, I think that's, I think it's really interesting. I think it's a good choice just

because Alex has to come out immediately knowing everything that there is to know. You'd think. And then the story is going to change. So he has to come out and immediately know everything about that. And then the story is going to change again. And he has to come out immediately. So there's no way he can keep his bullshit straight. Whatever he has to do as a narrative has to be able to include that somehow or else he has to make it include that. Yeah. And I think that may be interesting to see. I, yeah, I think that this will be at least educational in some form. Yes. So today we're just going to be looking at the day after the shooting, May 25th, 2022. And we'll get down to this in a moment. But first let's say hello to some new wonks. Oh, that's a great idea.

So first the middle-aged rat captain from the SS North Korean ballot boat. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next legendary creature Phyrexian Praetor flash at the beginning of your end step. Draw seven cards. Each opponent's maximum hand size is reduced by seven. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next Captain Carlos danger and the crew of the dark slide. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, I told my mother I was brilliant until she said I was going to hell. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. And Jordan, we got a technocrat in

the mix. So I'd like to say hello and thank you to a cat named yonder. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. I have risen above my enemies. I might quit tomorrow actually. I'm just going to take a little breaky now. A little breaky for me. And then we're going to come back and I'm going to start the show over. But I'm the devil. I got to be taken out of here. Fuck you. Fuck you. I got plenty of words for you. But at the end of the day, fuck you in your new world order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit. Maybe today should be my last broadcast. Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again. That's really what I want to do. I never

want to come back here again. I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. I'll be better tomorrow. He's not. Nope, he never will be. Well, that's a real bummer. Yeah. So we started off here and Alex has some interesting thoughts. He has he has an idea that the shooter didn't act alone. Okay. But why? Well, it's a little metaphysical. Okay. Salvador Roma or in Latin the son of Rome or like the son of what doesn't matter if they're Caucasian doesn't matter if they're Hispanic. It doesn't matter if they are black. They all have that same look and they all follow the exact same MO. They all have the same criminology behind them.

His friends that say that he began to self harm several years ago began to get into the occult began to become a Satanist. And if you ask what organization or group was behind this or to be acted alone, he did not act alone. The Bible talks about the mystery of iniquity, the mystery of evil and how this evil force takes people over. Yeah. So I guess Alex has decided that the Uvaldi shooter is possessed by demons, which is being used as an argument that he didn't act alone. So we're we're on good solid ground here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. Yep. That whole son of Rome thing is fun, but Philius is son in Latin and the shooter's name

was Ramos, not Romas. I do. I was able to find some early articles that did say Romas. So that's not like all that wild for Alex to have that name. Sure. In his head, but it wasn't correct. Gotcha. I'm not as familiar with Latin as I am with Greek, but I also don't think it's possible for a noun to be declined the way Alex is making Romas mean of Rome. The AS is not a suffix that's used in the genitive case, which is most commonly used to show possession like of something. Son of Rome would generally be expressed as Philius Romam. Anyway, Salvador is actually a name that derives from the Spanish and Portuguese for savior and Ramos means branches. The point is that Alex is getting the shooter's name wrong. So he can incorrectly translate it into something that he

can pretend means son of Satan so he can shoehorn his insane worldview that his enemies are possessed by demons into the coverage of the story on a basic level and it's very dumb. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's very hard to deal with the root causes of things if you believe the root cause of things is the devil. Right. Right. Yeah. And you believe that there's a conspiracy of one, but it's actually a hundred demons. Right. Because there's because magic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's tough. The inequity of evil. It's a mystery. Yep. So Alex has some details wrong. And I actually kind of think that some of this he should have been able to get right. And so he killed his grandmother. Mr. Romus just like Adam Lanza killed his mother with the gun she'd gotten that he had illegally.

And he went out to kill children just like the left wants to abort the babies even after they're born and have passed laws in several states to do it. Alex's great last refuge of comparing everything to the evils of his enemies doing abortion. Yep. But Ramos didn't kill his grandmother. He shot her. But she survived for Alex to think that she'd been killed. He would have to do like no investigation into the story over the past 24 hours because most of the stories even the early ones involved the grandmother calling 911. Yeah. And she was evacuated to the hospital. That detail was in early stories. Yeah. But we see again the standard deflection instead of dealing with reality as it is Alex retreats to safer territory that he knows the audience enjoys. Namely making everything

about abortion and attacking his enemies because like haha this is bad. But what about this. Yeah. Yeah. It is it is so fucking emblematic that it is like OK we're going to take something that hurts people who are crying out who we can see the problems with. And then we're going to compare it to something purely abstract. Just nothing physical. Just the idea of abortion is the problem. Yep. Yep. So I think that we've already seen Alex be like hey you know what he acted as a collaboration because it was the devil devil. I found this to be really kind of distasteful and that is that Alex is basically doing clickbait about the shooting the day after Jesus. The headline today for the show is Alex Jones will exclusively reveal the organization in group

behind this psychotic devil captured by darkness. And the name is Satan. That's the organization. That's the group. So yeah. It's that's just clickbait. Yeah. There's no there's nothing beyond that other than like I'm tricking you into thinking that I'm going to report on something like I have information that there's a group behind this or whatever. And then it's a bait and switch that he's just like a hide Satan. Yep. There's a shadow organization and conspiracy behind this and a surprise at Satan. That's offensive. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's exploitation. Yep. Yep. Definitely brutal. But look we got a Satan problem. That's really we do have a Satan problem. Mexico has never had a second amendment. And in the last 50 years they've eradicated

civilian ownership of guns. Yeah. The problem was also has a devil problem civilians don't have a Satanism problem just like we do. And if you go look at the gangs who smuggle in the kids they worship the grim reaper and they worship death and brutality a tiny minority but still dominating and destroying an entire amazing nation and the same poison the same sickness that is in Mexico and is in other countries around the world is here in the United States. So like what do you propose we do like what do you propose we do for this Satan problem? Pray more theocratic rule. No no no I don't want to do anything. I just want people to think about it and to pray on it. Okay when that doesn't work and

we still have a Satan problem what are you going to do? I am going to tell people to double down. Look I don't mean to impugn religion or anything but people are already praying quite a bit. We have a giant Satan problem according to you. Sure. Well what functionally would you propose people do? Oh man. Maybe make laws to make sure that people are in line with things that aren't satanic. I don't know about laws. But what if it's on a state level? Okay well a state level that makes sense. Now we're good. Now we're in comfortable territory. I mean it's just ridiculous. It's a it's a dead end in terms of being able to have any conversation. It's jangling keys. Don't don't don't don't look at what happened. Look over here. The devil. The devil.

Yeah. So Alex has some early misreporting that he's reporting on. Right. And I think that there's an element of this that I mean I think a lot of outlets made the same mistakes. Of course. And so it's harder to fault Alex for getting this incorrect in hindsight. And they focus in on this event and someone who reportedly killed his grandmother. The police were looking for him. The board of patrol went after him. He shot at him, went into the building and quickly killed 19 people. 19 children, two teachers in an unprecedented attack. And it was a brave, lone, a war patrol agent that before the backup got there and everybody put their body armor on and got suited up in their camo who rushed in and got wounded but killed

the son of a bitch. Son of a bitch is two kind of term for somebody like this. This matches some of the early reporting on the story, particularly the part about a border patrol agent shooting Ramos from the Texas Tribune article about this from the 24th quote law enforcement officers entered the school building and were met with gunfire from the shooter who was barricaded inside. A border patrol agent shot the gunman before waiting for backup. A law enforcement official told the Associated Press. So these are the pieces of information that are being relayed by law enforcement to the press. So it makes sense for Alex. Sure. I think in hindsight, there's a lot of reasons to have some questions. Yeah. But the dynamic of Alex treating this as

an official statement is totally understandable. Of course. So this is one of the things that's good to highlight is that like there is a difference between something like this, something he's wrong about, but he has every reason to be wrong about. Yeah. And something that he's wrong about when he's just making shit up. Right. And I think I think that gets lost sometimes because there are very few instances where he's actually reporting on something that is wrong. Yeah. But is you would have it's believed by reputable sources. Ironically, even when he is sticking with the official narrative, he is still wrong. It's wild. That is amazing. Even whenever he's trying to not be wrong, he gets even more wrong. Yeah. Yeah. So

since this point, we've seen a lot of information about the police response called into question, but based on the available information, Alex isn't that far off the mark. That being said, he's still totally wrong about the shooting being quick. Even early information was clear that it was not a quick thing. That same Texas Tribune article points out that the shooting began at 1132 and the school district tweeted a warning about an active shooter at 1217 PM over 45 minutes later. So I mean, just for some context, it was not, it was not like a no time for backup. Yeah. No. Nope. Yeah. Nope. So look, we have a double problem, but there's also maybe a solution. We need to be armed. Damn it. And we need the teachers armed and we need the principals armed. And if

we got $40 billion to send money to Ukraine for money laundering and $5 billion a month more, we've got the money to have armed police in the schools. And that is exactly what the Democrats are trying to stop. They want the police out of the schools and then they want to advertise for psychopathic demons. The option like on a menu, death by cop, suicide yourself, kill your grandma, kill your mom. No, the big bonanza is go shoot up an elementary school as they hype it, hype up Sandy Hook all of it. They know what they're doing. Oh, super cool. He's complaining about him being sued for the Sandy Hook coverage again, trying to relate that. That's a theme that he's continuing from the night before. It's all about me. Yeah. Yeah. Narcissism. So I have

to say that that comes off completely hollow and meaningless, just a diversion from the point as opposed to actually being a solution. There's two problems with the prescription Alex is yelling about here. The first is that he believes teachers are trying to groom all the students into being LGBTQ and even beyond that he thinks the public schools are tools of the globalists who use them to get parents in trouble, the child protective service. Also, they teach your kids to hate you and think you're a racist. But now he wants them armed. This doesn't track it all because it's not a sincere position. Yeah. It's just a way to yell about something that you think could be a distraction from conversations about gun regulation and domestically violent men. The second problem

is that money that's being sent to aid Ukraine is from the federal government. Is Alex saying that he wants the federal government to arm teachers because that seems exactly like something he wouldn't want happening. But he's saying that we can afford to do this by appealing to the aid being sent to Ukraine. Almost feels like these aren't real points. Nope. Nope. I don't think he believes that these are actually solutions to the things that he is talking about. No. I think it's a performance of distraction. Yeah. It's all it's pretty vapid really for a while, I would say. And then we also have just the standard choruses that Alex says. Sure. Like the don't blame me. Oh, well, it's not my fault. Right now we have this terrible event, another devil worshiper,

another person to shoot him up games, another person who killed his grandmother reportedly and then went and did this terrible thing. And now we are all told we are collectively to blame for what this devil did. But I want you to think for a moment. God owners are not collectively to blame that more patrol agent that valiantly went in and stopped what was happening and got wounded himself. Is it to blame? He's the good guy. And you're good. You didn't do this. But we are to blame for letting society become this demonic and I'm to blame too.

And let's just admit that and God's angry about it. So I wonder how Alex would respond to this rebuttal that I have to his point about, you know, all the gun owners aren't to blame. Yeah. Why is he trying to make all devil worshipers collectively to blame for the actions of one shooter? Now, you're tons of people out there who identify as Satanists who don't commit any violent acts. So it doesn't seem like there's something inherently violent about it. Like I'm all for not blaming all gun owners because that's sloppy and not productive. But I want to know why Alex thinks that's so wrong yet he blames all Satanists for the actions of this one person who Alex can't even prove was into Satanism. Alex can't prove that he was a Satanist and

yet he's blaming the shooting on all Satanists. Yet I can easily prove that the shooter was a gun owner and I'm not blaming all gun owners. Seems like Alex is the one who's engaging in the inappropriate levels of assigning collective blame here. Yep. Yep. Well, if you think someone's going to do that to you, regardless of whether or not they do that, it's a wiser idea to come back twice as hard at somebody else with the same bullshit while claiming that you're actually the one who's doing it. Do you want to take away someone's first amendment right to believe in Satanism? Obviously. In order to preserve your second amendment right to own a gun? Well, of course. Okay. Of course. Great, great, great, great. Awesome. Just because the amendment's number two

doesn't mean it's not number one. True. So we have on this episode something that we see a lot of times after like sort of big events that are kind of difficult for Alex to really talk about in any organic way. Like a lot of this stuff is kind of boilerplate stuff like arm teachers. Sure. It's not my fault. Nope. Not gun owners' faults. More cops. Yeah. These are the kind of things he hear all the time. And so one of the things that Alex will do is he will take a lot of calls because it's workshopping. It's figuring out like the callers can say things that he can't. Yep. You won't have to take responsibility for those things. And he can push back on it and then kind of get some points for looking like sometimes a reasonable one. And he can also if

somebody says something he likes, he can repeat it as something that came from a high level source tomorrow. So there's a lot of benefits for taking calls. And boy, he gets an exciting one pretty early. Oh no. All right. I don't want to cut Matthew short. We'll may have to hold him over. Says there's a special ed teacher worked with the student. And it says he was special ed says he had a learning disability and speech impediment people made fun of. That's what his friends are saying that they hadn't talked to him over a year because he got so demonic. But let's go to Matthew in Texas. Matthew, if you are who you say you are, this is a big break here on the show to be able to hear from you. And I believe you. But please tell us the details. I believe you based on nothing.

Yeah. I'm just going to tell you you were 100% correct. Yeah. I don't even need to figure figure this show what you're saying to me. I don't know if I've seen any reporting that he necessarily wasn't in a special education classes. I haven't seen any. What Alex is referring to is that he had a stutter and a list. And apparently the people had mocked that a bit. His kids are cruel. Yeah. But that does not necessarily mean that he was in any special education program. Sure. He may have been. I don't know that. But from many of the articles that I've read, that's not necessarily something that's come up. Yeah. But I don't exclude it as possibility. Definitely a possibility. This caller may be legit. Maybe not. Alex doesn't know, but he is treating it

like it is. Now, the problem that I have is that this caller is very vague. There's not really much to hang your hat on. Okay. Please tell us the details. All right. I'm a long time listener, Alex. This is really hard for me to digest all this going on. I've worked with students like that across the state. You know, I've been employed in over 14 different districts. And I've seen this kind of one into the other. And whenever we, in my opinion, you know, and you're talking about an awesome group of people in Uvalde, Texas, great district, great people, my heart breaks for them. And for those kids, you know, I've been a teacher for a long time. And I just want to say that, you know, we work with these kids, we know who they are, right? And

whenever we went to quarantine, and it happened all over this country, a lot of these kids went down a bad path. And I think that's what we're seeing, right? I want to be specific. Did you work with this student or you worked with similar students and saw them fall out and then get swallowed up by the internet? Or what are you saying? No, I interacted with him. So yeah, he was, he's being so vague that Alex has to be like, what are we talking about? Yeah. Are you, were you working with his guy? He says it was a number of years in the past. He's not specific about that. He's worked for 14 different districts as a teacher. A special education teacher, perhaps. Gotcha. Okay. But I think that, you know, maybe there's a possibility that that's some kind

of a like, like consultancy kind of role, like you go around to different schools. Like it's not like you're a teacher one year here, right? No, that's not how it works. No, no, there could be a reason why you'd be in a bunch of different districts. Like there is a position I can imagine that exists there. But that to me, I think that if you were in that kind of a role where you're in a bunch of different districts, you probably would have less time intimately knowing the students. Yeah. Probably would have. You're kind of in and out. It seems like you would be. I don't know. One of the reasons I don't know is because this guy's not specific at all. He doesn't really say anything. Yeah. And that is that this is the day after. Yes. And he's calling into info wars.

He is. Yeah. I mean, there's problems. Yeah. So Alex, he's like, okay, we're coming up on the end of the first hour here. And when the second hour begins, there's that whole like little time where no one's listening, right? It's on the radio. Yeah. I'm going to put you on hold for that. We're going to come back when the audience is actually here. Okay. All right. Please, please hold. We got to go to break. Will you hold for like five minutes so we can come to you when the full audience is here in the second hour? Yes, sir. All right, great. Some say you don't care the first five minutes. So I'm going to have you hold. We'll come right back to you at six after. Please don't hang up, Matthew. You can tell this guy's for real. Wow. By the way, I put him on hold

because if we don't do this, we won't be here. How and why? We are barely in the black, even with that big donation. Turn out we had even more bills. I didn't know about not mad at accounting, but not mad at accounting. That's a new one. New bills. That's a new one. We got new bills. Listen, I'm not mad at accounting for, I guess they came up with new bills. They hid those bills. And somehow these bills are larger than $8 million. Sure. Sure. Sure. Yep. Nope. All right. They're very big bills. Cool, man. Yeah. Yeah. So those other companies that he owns have really started adding, adding to it. It's inflation. It's inflation. They're charging him. Yeah. What are you going to do? I don't fault them. I mean, it's been years. I know. Frankly.

So, um, yeah, I think that there's a fun thing here where it's like, look, that next five minutes, no one, the audience dips quite a bit because we're not on the radio for that. Other stations are playing their own top of the hour identification stuff. And look, if I had Twitter, I would tweet out that the special ed teachers on everybody's got to turn it on right now. This is exciting. Shit. This is a get for me. I know, even though I have no way of proving what you are saying is true. No, no, no, no, no, he does using his own instincts. Ah, shit. At the end of the first hour of being just joined us, we went to a caller for open the phones up for people specifically in Texas or Yvaldi or from those in the school. And the caller sounds very credible and very informed

and said, look, I'm a special ed teacher. I worked with him. And what he's talking about fits the M O. We're going right back to him now. So I have no idea if this caller is for real or not. And neither does Alex. The idea that a special education teacher would call into the show the next day makes Alex feel special, though. So no matter what, regardless of how flimsy the evidence may be, Alex is always going to believe a caller like this. Yep. That's not to say that it's definitely a prank or a liar. I have no idea, but I also don't know any solid confirmation that Ramos was in the special needs program. This may be a real caller who worked with him, or it may be a Texas special education teacher who's misremembering working with him,

or it could all be bogus. But the important thing is that Alex has no idea what the deal is, and it's very unwise for him to act like this. The lack of any vetting and acceptance of whatever claims are convenient for you is a bad way to go about doing a news show. It's, uh, I mean, this goes all the way fucking back to the Arkansas Department of Transportation is on the roads, you know, like just, it doesn't matter. This seems like it works for me. Some call, some call makes enough sense to me. Guess what? That's part of it. Putin has decided to nuke the U.S. and he looks like a demon. Totally. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. You just take whatever comes in, and then fuck it. Who cares? Zach. Fuckin' Zach. Oh, yeah, Zach. Zach from the North Dick Comm.

Where's Zach these days? I don't know. Mr. Zach. He was cute for a while. So yeah, so we talked about this on the last episode. One of the things that Alex does literally every time in shootings is that he claims that the police stood down. Yeah, he does this, even in other instances like the Unite the Right rally, right, right, various other things. There's always a police stand down that explains away issues that he doesn't want to deal with. Please don't tell me that, ironically, this time he is going to claim that there was no police stand down. And obviously, the caller can fill us in on that and I'll get more into the M.O. and, you know, the criminology of this, but it just fits the same pattern,

just like Cruz at Parkland and the police stood down there. They didn't stand down here. Oh my God. Harrison Clybold. Come on. Yeah, isn't that wild? They stood the most down here. But isn't that wild? That is so fucking crazy. He always makes that claim. And this one instance. I think this is a simulation. We're in a simulation. This is too, no, no, no, no, no. It's bizarre. I refuse to believe that this is like that moment where Rogan is like, oh, this is too good. It has to be true. I reject this. This is too good. It has to be a lie. I was pretty surprised when I was listening and I heard that. I was like, wow, that's unfortunate for Alex. Crazy. But I think

part of that is probably because the story of the guy, the, the not waiting for backup and going in is too good. Yeah. Alex enjoys that quite a bit. Yeah. The hero cop with a gun. That's the, that's the story that everybody wants to tell at the same time. I don't feel like he's obsessing about that story that much, but I do think that holding onto it is more important than necessarily pushing a stand down in this instance. Yeah. And it would be hard to thread the needle of like, well, some people were told to stand down, but this guy was the hero who did. Yeah. No, that's not going to happen. So this caller, who's the alleged teacher, he has some points to make. And I think that Alex would really have a tough time with this. If

this wasn't a caller that he thinks is a big get. Just start wherever you like and tell us what you witnessed and what you saw. Yes, sir. Um, to, to kind of preset this, I've got, I studied special education and graduate school in Texas. Um, I'll probably get demonized from that because I'm, I'm an, I'm an open and forward listener. I've been that way a long time. Um, I haven't always agreed with everything you say, Alex, but I do respect you. And so so long story short, those kids had hope, right? Whenever they, the economy was good. And you have to understand people who probably don't have very much. And what they do have, they're proud. They're very warm people. Um, they're just good people.

And so basically what happens is when that pandemic starts, a lot of these kids that needed our direction and our structure lost it because they weren't there with us. And there's a lot of good teachers out there that care. This is really complicated. And Alex should really hate what this caller is saying. Yeah. On the one hand, it's good because he's making the shooting about the pandemic, which Alex can work with. That's an acceptable distraction from the idea of talking about gun regulation or building up red flag laws for domestically violent people. On the other hand, this caller's entire premise is so counter to infowars ideology that Alex should hang up on him, even if this guy was a teacher in Duvalde. This guy is saying that one of the driving forces behind

the shooting was that the pandemic happened and these students who needed the structure of public schools didn't have school anymore and they fell apart. Alex hates public schools. He thinks their globalist indoctrination centers and would be more consistent with his positions. If he argued that being in a special education program was proof that Ramos was being mind controlled by the school, that would be the position he should be taking. Alex should respond to this by accusing the guy of advocating for locking everyone up in school prisons. He constantly yells about how the state doesn't need to raise your children as an attack on public schools. But I guess in this case, it's okay as a thing for the caller to promote. That's weird. I mean, he should borderline be

telling the caller that the caller had something to do with it. Right. He should be grilling him for information about it. He's like, wait, wait, wait, you're in the special education program and you knew this kid? How? What? What's going on in the special education program? Let me ask you this. Did you know Jolly in West? Have you been trained in mind control? Yeah. Do you know Steve Pochetic? Yeah. So this is where the call gets to Alex asking for like specifics and this caller does not have any. They get in a downward spiral into darkness. Let me ask you this question. You're obviously being respectful and, you know, not specifically talking about him, but this is a big public interest. You're anonymous here. What did you observe? I've seen articles

by his friends saying in the last year or so he disappeared during the lockdown. Got really dark, started self harming himself. You got obsessed to shoot him up game, started getting into dark, occultic stuff. What child or young man did you see versus the one that reportedly did this atrocity? So I saw him. I saw more a social Alex to where in somebody, a young person that has a social tendencies, they're going to be more kind of by themselves. They might be social, but they're going to be social like a select group of students. And so he was more just to me just removed from the situation, but he was still approachable. And so, you know, especially at the end of the day, I would go out and I had students all over the place and I'm there like, like how I am. There's

a lot of proactive educators and I'll walk around and I just kind of get the temperature of what's going on around the kids because I want to know what's going on. So yeah, there's nothing like really insightful. There's no real information that's being transferred. And part of that makes me think that maybe he was actually involved in the Texas school districts in some way because if it was someone goofing or like being like a hoax, they probably would have something a little bit more interesting. Yeah. No, it does seem like he was like this kid was in one of my, you know, I knew him. He's just like everybody else essentially. Yeah. Yeah. I would be maybe fine believing he had like some sort of a passing, like he maybe ran into a once. Yeah. That's kind

of my vibe is that maybe he's exaggerating. Maybe he's not necessarily making everything up, but I think he might be inserting himself into the story where I think sometimes that's the way people process things. Yeah, true. You can't count the number of times when a like a celebrity dies, people will post like I met him once or whatever. The whole thing. Yeah. You make things about yourself a little bit. It's not always narcissism. Sometimes it's a little bit of like that's how you can cope with all process grief in our own way. Yeah. I feel like possibly that's that's something here or, you know, who knows? Maybe it is entirely fake. I mean, he's calling info wars and that's not good. No, but the point to is just like the, the, he's, Alex spends a half hour on

this call and he has no idea who this person is. He has no idea if they're actually who they claim to be. Right. And it does. It's treated as automatically true because it's better if it's true. And that's not good because you open yourself up to all sorts of possible people who are doing hoaxes. I mean, yeah, you open yourself up to Steve Pachennick. And once you do that, it's too late for you open yourself up to someone fucking with you for 20 years, 20 years, years of your life. Yeah. So Alex has heard that Ramos would shoot BB guns and throw throw stuff at cars and what have you. Great. Alex wasn't that bad or was he? They're now saying he drove around with friends and egg cards and shot people with BB guns. And then you get in a worse and worse group and it goes

from egging and BB guns to real guns. I never shot people with BB guns, but I did on Halloween run around and, you know, throw exit people and then it escalated to, you know, throwing a pumpkin off of a bridge that had a pickup truck could have killed people. And that's about the worst stuff I've done. But some of those friends I had then got in trouble later, years later, after I'd already moved out of where I lived for things like arson and went to jail. So that's that downward spiral you're talking about. Alex's murdered people, if you believe him. Yeah. The worst thing he's done is thrown a pumpkin off a bridge. He said he literally stomped someone's guts out and watched them die slowly. Yeah. Yeah. There's blood and guts everywhere. Multiple people. Multiple people.

Multiple people he's murdered, according to him. Yep. Put people in a coma. Definitely. Yeah. That one we actually know. Yeah. We do know that one. That one's worse. Yeah. So yeah. Pumpkins, the worst Alex has done. Nope. Gonna go with coma on this one. Gonna go with murder that didn't happen. Didn't happen. I'm gonna go with Alex claiming he's murdered people. Yeah. So this is just Alex expressing that there should be more cops in schools. From what I can see in the reports, the attack unit from the Border Patrol just happened to be almost like right in that area. And they responded before they even had backup, which is a testament to how great our law enforcement is. And I think the only short way in the quick way to solve this is to immediately put more police

on all in all schools. Matthew, I agree with you. Stay there. Yeah. So that's not a good prescription for anything. Nope. Cops do not make schools safer. We'll get into some of that a little bit later. Fucking awful. Well, some may mean well in some cases, but the empirical evidence shows that they're side effects of having police in schools that aren't necessarily positive. Yeah. So this Alex should be furious about this. We've got to have mechanism in place. I don't think I don't agree with the fact that he could legally purchase a any kind of weapon at 18 without going through some sort of mental evaluation, you're barely developing, especially expanding on that. He's being described as autistic. I know you can't diagnose my doctor, but was he on the spectrum

in your opinion? I can't without violating his his FERPA information. Unfortunately, I'm not I don't want to comment on that, Alex. Good day. Good call there. But also Alex is allowing this guy to say that like 18 year old shouldn't be able to buy guns without a psych evaluation. Yeah. That seems like Alex should be furious about that. I don't think he would like that if Chucky Schumer tried to pass that as a law or suggested that was a good idea. Yeah. I don't think he would like it if anybody other than this particular person at this particular time had said that. Yep. Probably. That's it. So Alex has some suggestions of mind control as he does typically in the cases of mass shooting. Sure. Just weird since he's just gotten off the phone with a special needs

teacher. Yeah. Who allegedly worked with him. Yeah. Well, I mean, look, somebody probably groomed this guy. Somebody probably programmed him. We can't prove that we know. Theoretically, you can talk about the caller control of the CIA. That's mainstream news just back at the paper. So yeah, it goes on. It could be going on. But again, they don't need to do individual mind control now. The culture is mind control. Absolutely. Ah, yes. So living in the culture is what you're calling globalist mind control. Yeah. The entire culture. So it's meaningless. So then in order to stop school shootings, you have to stop culture. Right. And so instead of that, we're just going to do school shootings forever. Well, I mean, you just have to like,

if you want to stop the Satan problem, which is caused by the mind control of the globalists, you have to destroy all vestiges of culture that isn't pure. God. Yeah. Yeah. It is all just everything is just Kirk Cameron movies. That's what we get. Uh-huh. Yeah. Great. Yeah. Yeah. And then Alex getting really high with Mike Tyson. Yeah. Chuck Norris's kid is around. Yeah. So everyone's got to be homeschooled apparently. That's probably. No, but then, but that, but that's the lockdown. The lockdown was homeschooling. And then they said that that was the thing. What else is on your mind, Daniel? I'm just a happy homeschool mom today. Boy, I got to tell you, that's what my wife said. I'm sorry. That's what you have to say.

Day after something. And we're just like, let's just, let's just keep her home. Fuck me. I mean, you know, it's time to stop letting other people teach our children. Absolutely. The real thing is how to roof a roof, how to plant a garden, how to cook food, how to tie your shoelaces, how to be a good person, everything else doesn't matter. The whole educational system is programmed for a system that's over, that's gone. And so that's why they're engineering a post industrial world. We love you, Daniel. Thank you. Right. And I think that to some degree, when you hear these conversations, what you should really take away from them is the solutions that they're proposing aren't solutions because they don't want public schools to continue to exist. If there are continued

mass shootings constantly, that works in the favor of the right wing ideology because eventually, maybe it'll get to a point where it's just unsustainable to have public schools. I mean, more cops in schools makes public schools less safe. So they want more, more cops in schools over and over and over again. It's the, the issue is with the school. It's not with the shooting. It's quite frankly, based on the ideology that they carry. Yeah. And that's, that's why a lot of these attacks have, you know, been not, not the shooting attacks, but the attacks on the right wing have had to do with the school boards and well, I mean, it's, it's, it's classic clue rules. You know, we have the person, we have the weapon and we have where it happened. So we can't do

anything about the person. They'd rather die than do anything about the weapon. So we got to get rid of the place. Tim Curry. Great movie. So Alex has had a lot of prophecies and divine experiences. And they've all come true, which kind of backs up everything that he said. True. Yeah. Now we learn about another one. Uh-oh. This is one he's never talked about before. I bet it's really old. Oh, it's so old. It's old and definitely didn't happen. 100%. The UN said two years ago, the lockdowns, we're going to put 278 million people, he estimated, on the verge of starvation that an extra 20 million a year would die and they nailed it. And that's accurate. 40 million people died. I wake up at night and think about that because let me tell you something. I'm God

fearing and I've got a spirit and it's connected to things. And you know, I'm not going to tell the story. It's just too intense. And I said, I go to your calls. But I had a vision when I was three years old. It's one of my earliest, most intense memories. And it was starving African children that were just crying out for food. And my parents heard me crying in my room in the middle of the night and they came in. And my parents remember this. And it was very intense. It was a recurring dream after that. And it was real what I was seeing. And I didn't understand it all, obviously, when I was three years old. But it was a mission to not let what was coming even bigger happen. And I remember

spiritually feeling the Holy Spirit incredibly intense. And like giving me an imprint of information that you're going to you're going to help mitigate this. You're going to help stop this. This is your mission. And I remember being given this total sorrow and the desperation of those children. And it was it was the most intense thing that's ever happened to me in my life. Bar none. Nothing's ever been one tenth as intense. And it was it's a lot more complex than that. And I tried to never talked about it to even friends or family. I mean, I guess a few times my parents, you said your parents cry. I was like three years old. Oh, man, if Alex had this vision and it was the most intense thing he ever felt and it was God giving him a mission, you

would think that maybe he would have made food insecurity in the developing world a really important part of his career. Like, you know, it would be the focus of one of his 12 documentaries maybe. I mean, generally speaking, if I was three years old and given a vision and the purpose from God to fight one of the horsemen single handedly, I would have not started info wars. Right. It seems counterintuitive. Yeah. It's also so weird. This only comes up when there's some other political point Alex is trying to make by using starving people as a prop. Yeah. He doesn't really seem to give a shit about the issue outside of that context. All you need to know is that before Trump, the only politician Alex ever went to bat for was Ron Paul, who made

the elimination of all foreign aid one of the pillars of his runs for the presidency, which Alex supported wholeheartedly. Yep. The elimination of foreign aid would kill a number of people that would be so hard to estimate given how much of our aid goes to things like the eradication of smallpox programs that fight infant and maternal fatalities and the humanitarian concerns of all sorts astronomical for Alex. The image of people starving in the developing world isn't something that he saw in a vision when he was three and has informed his career ever since. It's a prop he can use to push other agendas he actually cares about like agitating against COVID restrictions and minimizing the murder of 19 elementary school children. He's a colossal piece of shit and

it's degrading how he tries to wrap up his detestable politics in the veneer of some kind of holy quest of compassion that God gave him in his childhood. Just horseshit. Yep. Fucking hate this nonsense. Yep. He saw a commercial. He didn't get a vision. Yeah, probably. He might have had a dream based on some sort of a like feed the children. Yeah, I mean that would have been right around the time for the a cup of coffee commercial that would play and it's just oh boy how is it that you can it's a human fucked up thing that you can point to a problem that's unsolvable as a way to avoid solving a problem that is solvable because you don't want to solve the problem exactly. Yeah. Yep. How do we do that? What kind of psychopath

nonsense species are we insane? I mean we can't just go oh there's this third world population they're useless and let them die. If we do that we're supposed to save those people but really save them not weaponize them and bring them here and have them burn everything down. If we don't lift those people up not just in Africa but everywhere but the vision was Africa. If we don't do that God's gonna damn us to hell. I can tell you now that that is a fact and if we don't try to save people like Salvador Ramos we don't have any hope and the left poses as the people trying to save people but they're the actual ones manufacturing and producing this. I'm gonna shut up now. It's a true story. Okay so you might notice that Alex will sometimes mention how we

need to lift up these people in the developing world but he won't ever really expand on what that means outside of just insisting that the political positions he already holds will have the side effect of lifting them up. It's like trickle down conservatism. Yeah well I mean Obama was the one who said they can't have fridges so I assume he just wants everybody to have a refrigerator. Right yeah and cars and burn a lot more fossil fuels because that'll green everything. It's so much more carbon dioxide it'll make the plants bigger. Yeah but it's just empty garbage that he throws around these ideas of like we need to lift people up but not the fake lifting them up and then it gets into some sort of great replacementy adjacent

ideas of bringing immigrants here. It's like Britain in the fucking early 1900s. He's like listen we need to bring these inferior mongrels up and you're like wait wait wait no no no not how that what are you doing? You racist piece of shit. Also it's so cool how a day after the shooting Alex is imploring the audience to save the Salvador Ramos's in society. You really don't see that kind of grace and understanding being applied across the board for murderers that Alex talks about. No I was thinking about it and I honestly have almost no idea why you would say something like that. It's completely bizarre and it probably dips into fairly disrespectful territory considering that this is the next day. I mean it really feels like what he's trying to do

here is a response to what he's done in the past of like here are the things that I've always done and I'm going to try different ones today and somehow it's worse. Yeah and you may notice that by now we're you know weighs into this. The night before he was misidentifying the trans women as the shooter didn't bring it up didn't apologize. You didn't say I'm sorry for misidentifying. That is just didn't happen. Just pretend it never happened. Never happened. Well that's why you do it at a special report then you know it's not on the air. Yeah so we get another caller and this guy's weird. Unity in Texas welcome you're on the air. Hey Alex how you doing? I'm all right it's the evil's making its move brother. So I mean it is. It is. I just want to

God bless everyone in Uvalde and God bless all of us. Go into these times. Another thing is you know should these teachers should they be drug tested. All teachers should the school board should they be drug tested. Number one. Number two. Are the liabilities in the doctor's laps. Are they in the school board's laps. Are they in the video game manufacturer's laps. Should we have a mental health questionnaire for video games. Should we lock these games up like we do the guns and have them transferred like guns have an FFL and have a BGL video game licensor. We're going to have to do something to protect these children and these schools is strip malls have armed guards walking around looking at their phones. Just nothing's going on. That's right. We got armed guards guarding

garbage restaurants and garbage jewelry shops. The jewelry is not worth anything. Our children are everything. I have no idea why this caller is suggesting all this shit. It almost seems like just a list of non sequiturs. Yeah. Yeah. That said it's not like no schools have armed guards. For the year 2015 to 2016 the National Center for Education Statistics reported 42.9% of all public schools had quote sworn law enforcement officers routinely carrying a firearm. In 2021 researchers at SUNY Albany looked at the school data from 2014 to 2018 in order to assess what effect having armed officers in schools had. They found that having an armed school resource officer quote marginally increases the likelihood of a school shooting but they do point out that it's a

small increase. On the flip side quote the introduction of an SRO does appear to improve general student safety by decreasing non firearm related violent offenses such as physical attacks and fights. It's probably hard to attribute the slight increase in the likelihood of a shooting to the presence of the officer but it seems like a pretty decent chance that the decrease in fights is probably due to them being there. Not necessarily the fact that they have a gun but security officer would tend to have that effect but there's a big downside that the study also found. From the study quote this benefit comes at a high cost of increased disciplinary responses by both the school and law enforcement. We find that SROs increase the incidents of in school

suspension out of school suspension expulsion police referral and arrest particularly in middle and high schools. For many of these disciplinary consequences the increased use of punishment is over two times larger for black students than white students and significantly larger for students with disabilities than students without disabilities. SROs also increase the rate of chronic absenteeism. The idea of just dropping an armed guard into a school and considering the job done here isn't a solution. There are very troubling side effects that appear to be related to that decision that need to be weighed against the illusion of safety that it provides. I think it's just much more complicated than the idea of like let's put an army in there or whatever. Yeah no I mean the problem

is basically this. We know how to solve a problem but they don't want to do that so instead they have to come up with something and what they wind up coming up with makes it worse. The end. It happens every time because they don't want to solve the problem. So this same caller has some other weird ideas. Should we not have mag strips in the in the in the school schoolrooms bullet proof glass on the the doors. We have them in banks. It's something's got to be done. You know that's a great point because I don't like the police state but it's not a police state when psychos are spiritually targeting our young to harden those facilities. What I go back to the man at the manufacture the drugs. OK. These kids shouldn't be on all this dope. They shouldn't be too much

dope. What fucking year is it. So it's interesting that Alex is like all right. It's not a police state because there's all these psychos in one of you. And I mean if I were a conspiracy theorist who was like just sort of competing with Alex I would suggest maybe that. But look the globalists are really just creating the idea that there's a bunch of psychos around in order for them to get a police state in that you would accept. Yep. I mean it's all nonsense. It's arbitrary. The whole thing about a police state is you don't get one until somebody convinces you that you need one by using. I mean Alex thinks that it's the fucking gayly and dialectic bullshit. That's what Alex thinks is should be happening right now is that they're making this to bring

in a police state. And he's like listen I fucking love police states. Well it's not a police state this. No no no no somehow if you don't want to stop a police state even in the face of violence we see this then you don't have then you want a police we see this over and over and over and over again. We see the way that Alex like all of his posse comatotus ideas and martial law fears go away when it's doing it. Yeah. You know it's it's the it's the same thing. It's it's circumstantial. It's not it's not ideological. It's not there's no principle behind it. No. It's just the appearance and the presentation of principles. It's like Ted Nugent saying he's well researched. Oh of course. You know it's right. It's the well because it's about themselves. It's about building

themselves up as being both heroes intelligent being all of these amazing things. And yeah. And by not solving the problem you get to continue doing that. But then using that appearance as sort of a tool. Yeah. And a weapon. Yeah. Anyway the same caller has even more dumb ideas. Great. I can't have that. So many dumb ideas. Yeah. HIPAA also is a joke. It's nothing more than to keep everybody segmented and compartmentalized. And I know there's some advantages of it. But think about it. When you ask anyone what's your help about it. They gladly tell you everything under the sun that's wrong with them. It's not a secret. It's it's it's a tool. It's it's a weaponized tool. Well said sir. Thank you so much for the call unity. Well said. Powerful caller.

Wow. Powerful caller. Well said. He just gave a list of things that don't even make sense. We need to drug test teachers. We should treat. What. We should treat schools like bank vaults and we need to get rid of HIPAA laws. I mean what are you talking about. Why is he. That's that's one of those things where it's just like this guy just knows words. Like he just heard buzzwords and he knows problems. And so he just tries to combine them in like a you know draw the line for a back of a cereal box game in fairness. Powerful. It was a powerful call. Yeah. So we get another caller. And this is laws. I don't know. I don't know. If you ask somebody they'll just tell you what's wrong with them. HIPAA laws are the problem. If people will voluntarily

tell you the issues they have medically that it should be no problem that the it can all be disclosed without your permission. Right. You understand though that if I was like hey I want a job. Don't tell people that I have bipolar disorder. And then they're like hey guess what this guy has bipolar disorder. Don't hire him. Right. I mean you got to get rid of those laws. Yeah. We got to get rid of those laws. Yeah. Those laws that protect people. Yeah. So we get another caller and this guy has some some ideas about social media and how it was popping the fuck off the day before. And this would be a perfect place for Alex to bring up how you know he had misreported some stuff yesterday and apologize. But nope. Hey I just wanted to make

a point yesterday with the aftermath of the shooting. Social media was going crazy. And of course you got these liberal representatives attacking all these Republican congressmen and representative senators and all that. My question to you is at what point do they have enough of being vilified for this situation. Do they take it in their hands and go back on these liberals that are attacking them for being a baby killer. What. Well exactly. They have no debate. Yeah. There's no debate. So like yeah. I think it's interesting that this caller is like it's you know things are popping off on social media and it's like liberals being mean to conservatives and like you know Paul Kosar shared that misidentification of the shooter.

You know that Candace Owens quite late. I mean got in that game. Like you know that's a that's a much more meaningful thing that was happening on social media. Much more damaging than Libs being mad at conservatives or whatever. Yeah. But I mean they that narrative was so ingrained from like what 2013 2014 on of just like liberals are always and they blame everybody after a tragedy and all that stuff. And now and then like it just that everybody who tried that just kind of stopped. But the conservatives are like well we can just still keep saying that. Yeah. Over and over and over again. It doesn't matter if they do it or not and we can do it. But because that narrative is stronger than and I mean the media even help them out thus

they'll find one tweet of like a bug and then they'll be like well all liberals are it's fucking stupid. Well I mean I think also like a lot of Alex's and people sort of in his same territory. A lot of their politics revolves around a grievement. Yeah. Feelings of persecution and so projecting those onto the rest of the world. Yeah. Feels right. Yeah. So there's something that's sort of emotionally satisfying and familiar about dealing with all of these situations that way. Yeah. I think that explains some of it. So the dams though they'd be totally fine if just some circumstances were slightly different with the shooting. They want open air drug markets. They want to abort babies after they're born. They want drag queen story time.

They tell us there's so many people. Oh but then there's a mass shooting all the pro life people all the gun owners were to blame. It's it's ridiculous. It is. And this may sound kind of demented and I couldn't help but think of it. If that shooter would have went into a nursery and shot babies the left might have praised him saying he was actually he'd have gone and shot like 20 something pregnant women. They were like damn that's good. You know. Yeah. They would have praised him as a hero saying he was pro choice. And I know that's sickening but we are at that exactly. We don't we don't value the weakest and then when they're five years old we value them. That's sick. I'm just these people are going to be killing us in a year. This is fucked.

That's crazy. I mean like I understand that maybe there's some tone that we don't quite capture or whatever that like this is understood by some people as an exaggeration or some sort of thing but like it doesn't feel like it. It feels like they're legitimately saying like oh if you just shot pregnant women or babies it would be totally fine with the Dems who want to abort people after they're born. Yeah. Like yeah it feels like that's an actual feeling. Yeah. No that's that's I mean we're at we're at they're going to start just murdering the left. I mean that's fucking that if you can respond to a school shooting with the liberals are so evil they want to kill babies then you there's then there then we're not humans. We're not you cannot believe that I'm a human

being and I would be like stoked if a guy murdered a bunch of babies. This is bad. Yep. It's not good. No they're going to kill us. So Alex brings up there's some some bad information again but again this is the stuff that like you'd have every reason to think this was accurate. You know I need to get your opinion on this Alex. I was talking to a friend of mine this morning and we were like okay yeah you know the kid worked at Wendy's I'm sure if he saved enough money it'd be a pretty penny to buy those guns and all that ammo. I don't know I'm not versed on this you probably well more than me but how does that kid get all that body armor because it sounds like he was in a heck of a shootout with the cops and they couldn't take him down before he got in before

the special agent got in. I would think that body armor would cost a ton of money and I don't know an 18 year old would access all of that and maybe you can expand on that. No I agree how is he pitting down and defeating multiple armed security people and well trained border patrol. I mean the whole thing's very suspicious. It is but it's suspicious because that was not the case turns out. So we've answered that one. That is a good question. Yep those things don't sound right. Yep you are correct. The cops are fucking lying. So Alex wants to get into a little bit of the news a little bit headlines from a couple weeks ago apparently but the story is essentially meant to deliver the point that you know when gun

things happen the the the Dems like to make a big deal out of these things they can capitalize on but then when their antifa goons go out and do violence and shoot people they never get in trouble. Never get in trouble at all. And so Alex has got a story along those lines. No prison time for man who shot aurora protesters while aiming at Jeep driving through the crowd on I-225. The man who shot two people while aiming at a Jeep that drove into a crowd of protesters which is driving through them on Thursday 225 in the summer 2020 was sentenced Tuesday to 120 days in jail followed by five months probation but it's all time served. Samuel Young 24. Can we pull this picture up? Just type in this article. No prison time for man who shot aurora protesters.

It's like just from what Alex reads there he's contradicted the no prison time. I was gonna say he said he did 120 days time served. Yeah but this is also just a weird case for Alex to use so this was a situation where there was a protest in Aurora Colorado and a Jeep was not just driving slowly through a crowd the way Alex is making it sound. The Jeep was speeding towards people. Yeah it was a bit murderous intent. Well but I'm not actually sure you can go that far because I don't know if there was a like actual intention to hit people but he was not concerned for safety the driver. Right. In that situation this guy that Alex is talking about fired some shots at the Jeep and ended up hitting two other protesters. It was dumb. The guy has apologized

and taken full responsibility for his actions and he never would have used the gun if it weren't a situation where he felt that there was an immediate threat although his calculation may have been a little bit off. Right. Also the victims asked the court for restorative justice which the judge took into consideration. The person driving the Jeep also didn't get charged with anything so all in all considering that the victims weren't severely injured and the fact that they were not in favor of him getting any jail time. Right. Seems like this should be more of a teachable situation as opposed to one to use for outrage bait. Yeah. The guy has different politics than Alex though so it's just proof that the left and the globalists get away with

everything while trying to make a big deal out of mass shootings at elementary schools. Yeah and I mean the hypocrisy of that of somehow the left is getting away with everything if this was if you know a right wing protester shooting at a left wing driver in a car. Alex would be like I wish he would kill more left wing people driving in cars. Well he has spoken about situations like that. Yeah. Well the guy in the car was under threat. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. So it's like I mean I just whatever you want to be true about liberals is what you're going to say. Yeah. So fine. Yeah. I just don't I don't like it. So Alex take some more calls and this guy intrigued me. I wanted to know more. OK. Another thing Alex we got to get the hell out of this virtual world.

This virtual world is blending into our third world our 3D reality. We've lost touch. We've lost connection. There's no more neighbors reaching out to each other. Hell I saw a couple of neighbors having a crawfish boy and they could only get three or four neighbors to come over and eat crawfish with them because they was all scared by the damn media. That's right. They don't want us talking to each other. They want us directly plugged into their matrix. Yeah. It's the matrix. It's a web. We're losing touch with 3D world the physical the touch the love we're losing all that the media scared people away from the crawfish boy. You know you don't get calls like that on other shows. No. And I find this very interesting because like I said I want to know

more because I think I have a theory. I was that this guy was not invited to the crawfish boy. He said that he saw some people have it. He did. I was at a neighbor's crawfish boy. He did suggest that we don't have neighbors anymore and then observed that his neighbors were having fun without him. Well some some of the neighbors but it was not well attended. And also wait he didn't but he wasn't there and he didn't get an invite. So how does he not know that only three neighbors were invited. Well may well. I mean who knows how many were invited and didn't show up. He can't know the inner workings. Right. Right. Right. But also I mean who knows maybe he did get an invitation and he was afraid to go because because of the media and that's

what he's reported. I mean the media you're talking about is the one you're talking to right now. That's a fair point as well. Yeah. I wonder if it was a good crawfish boy. I don't know. I just I just think oh boy it's a crawfish kind of kind of way to solve a lot of problems. Sure. So we get another caller who has a dumb idea. You know something that somebody's not bringing up is the fact that the NRA is having their annual convention in Houston this weekend with a lot of Republican of Texas Republicans are going to be there. You don't think there are enough crawfish. Texas Republicans in the NRA. It's very it's very suspicious timing. Is it. So if you listen to this show you'll notice a trend and that is that a lot of the callers are trying to float possible

pieces of evidence that they can use to argue that there was foreknowledge of the attack and then they're trying to workshop a motive. It almost feels like they're reaching out to Alex to get his blessing on this reason that they're suspicious and he pretty much unfailingly will give them the reassurance they're looking for. It's a super unhealthy dynamic. Yeah. Like this guy is calling in and saying isn't it weird that the NRA conference is coming up in Houston and I was like that is very suspicious timing. Encouraging this line of thought that this guy is clearly on. Yeah. If the NRA meeting has anything to do with the shooting that happened prior to the NRA meeting then it had to have been scheduled to be before the NRA meeting,

which means there was a plan. Right. That has something to do with being opposed to the NRA. Right. Back to the globalists back to the Libs. Right. It's just Alex should not be just so blanket encouraging of these thought patterns because they're bad. Especially when they're contradictory towards each call from call to call. Like, oh yeah, no, that makes perfect sense. I think we should get rid of violent video games and also, yeah, absolutely. The violent video games aren't violent enough. And I mean it's just like I gotta go. It's just what the fuck are any of you talking about? Yeah, it's weird. So anyway, this other the same caller has another dumb idea.

I mean, this is the day fucking after to that's so hard to wrap my head around, especially that lady just being like, I'm a happy homeschooling parent right now. You fucking psycho. Yeah, yeah, it's a bit of a mess. Yeah. And then gear that guy had. What I understand being interested in guns myself that he has something like $3,500 worth of gear there may be more depending on the quality of the guns. So how do you get all that money working at Wendy's? Yeah, and they disappeared at any time. Was he was the off somewhere where a communist cell was training them to get ready for this? I mean, he might have been crazy,

but he might have been a diehard legal, you know, an addict. John, I've been on there 28 years and you haven't gotten through in years. You've been calling for 20 years, haven't you? Never have since 19. Just so shortly after the World Trade Center. 20 years, 20 plus years. All right. Oh, that's the saddest thing I've ever heard. Yep. That is that made me take a little bit of a like lean back in my chair. Yikes. Four word stories. Let's see. Info Wars listener. 20 years.

Long time caller. Like, yeah, I mean, like, yeah, you have somebody who's listened to Alex for their entire last two decades. Yep. They've called in to share in the experience with him. And the day after a mass shooting, they're calling in to be like, Hey, you know what, there's a decent. Do they disappear to a communist training center? Yeah. I mean, that does not get more just put that on. It put it in an encyclopedia next to the next to what happens with disinformation. 20 years of listening. My first thought is this guy was taken to a communist cell and

trained on how to murder children. That makes sense. And, you know, it's, it's, I think, indicative of, you know, like people who have ideas about conspiracies can call into Alex's show. He'll encourage them and it'll make it feel like, Hey, we're in this together. We're working on this thing. It'll kind of sucks them in a little bit more and keeps them like, keeps them like getting the validation that they're looking for. Yeah. I mean, you want to say that we're more complex animals, but boy, positive validation really goes a long fucking way towards getting you to do weird shit. Yeah. 20 years in the trenches. 20 years.

So Alex now has a guest. Uh-oh. And apparently the shooting didn't happen anymore because this guest is on a totally different topic. Great. You know, I got some stuff on the break tomorrow. I'm going to stop here. I'm not going to cover right now, but there is just so much going on. We have world government convening, announcing they're going to censor us, announcing their lockdowns, announcing they're going to forcefully inject us. It's just fabulously evil. And Thomas Renz is an experienced lawyer and he has been fighting for several years against the tyranny and has had a lot of successful lawsuits. Renz-law.com.

R-E-N-Z-law.com. You can describe Thomas Renz a lot of ways, but experienced lawyer is definitely not one of them. He just passed the bar in 2019 and has mostly been filing frivolous anti-vax and anti-mask lawsuits since. There we go. He's really become more of a media personality in fringe right-wing talk shows and going on the Reawaken America tour that was full of lunatics and some stand-up comedy from Jim Brewer. A September 2021 article in The Washington Post describes his litigation history like this. All but two of the eight coronavirus-related federal lawsuits Renz has filed are in their early stages. The exemptions are the suit against the hospital system in Michigan that was withdrawn

on September 10th, days after it was filed, and one against Ohio officials that was withdrawn in March after a judge said it was nearly quote, incomprehensible. Also, before finally passing the bar in 2019 on his fifth attempt, Renz worked at a credit union where multiple women made sexual harassment complaints against him, one of them including an instance where he quote, slipped his hand down the front of my upper breast and commented, oops. He all in all seems like a real asshole and someone who's found a pretty lucrative hustle for himself in the anti-vax world. So I guess he's coming on to talk about the the terror of monkeypox. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's where we're going for the rest of this. Oh man. Yep. These fucking guys. How do you

these fucking guys? Yep. So a clip comes up about about some some terrible things that Pfizer is announcing. Sure. Well, I mean, listen, we just had the announcement was that Pfizer said, you know, hey, you can swallow these chips and then we can track and it'll be perfect, you know, a perfect way to monitor people. Can you imagine the compliance? In fact, by the way, we're going to break Thomas Renz Renz-law.com. We got so much cover. Guys, get that head of Pfizer clip we played like Monday or maybe Sunday. You get that short 45 second clip ready when we come back from break, but we'll come out of break play that. So we want to, unlike mainstream media, when we say something, we're going to show it to you. Wow. So Alex can say like we show the clip, but Renz

is already lied about it. This is a clip he's claiming is recent, like they're announcing this and something about tracking people. Right. This is a comment that the CEO of Pfizer made in 2018 about Abilify MySight, which is a unique medication used to treat schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and depression. Oh, I know. It contains a sensor which, quote, sends a message to a wearable patch that transmits information to a mobile app. This is discussed in the context of breakthroughs and medicine and is specifically in response to a question from someone in the audience that essentially is asking, you know, you can create the best medication around, but it doesn't matter if a patient doesn't take it. What's being done on the technological side there. So this clip took

off in dumb, dumb, anti-vex and COVID conspiracy circles and countless memes have been shared with no context applied with people claiming that it's a recent clip and that it has something to do with the pandemic. Alex and Renz are just reposting that meme while pretending that they're doing some kind of reporting. And embarrassingly, Alex decides that this is where he's going to take a shot at the mainstream media for not playing clips. What a douche. Wow. 2018. Yep. Four years ago. Yep. And they're still claiming that it's brand new and it's about the pandemic. Well, not still claiming. Right. They've just recently found it lying about the context of it in order to push the conspiracy theories that they were already pushing. Yeah. That's that's

pathetic. That's weak shit. Yep. If you just have to put like a fucking, hey, hold on. Did you see that video? Here's the timestamp. Shut up. That's that's bullshit. Yep. Get out of here. Get out of here. Yep. So Alex has another clip from the World Economic Forum, because that that clip was actually in a talk at the World Economic Forum. Right. Right. Right. And this one is of Klaus Schwab making fun of Alex. I think it's pretty funny that Alex played this on his show, because it does show that Schwab has a little bit of a sense of humor. All right. I think we were we were both targets of the anti vaccine movements and conspiracy people claiming that I had tripled. I wondered what it is. Triple COVID.

Mm hmm. Yeah. I think you got hundreds of thousands of clicks and so on. I know you were also targeted. I read one day, but was arrested by FBI. Yeah, same happened to me. And there are pictures, pictures of me and FBI officers. I don't know how. Yeah. I never said the surprising thing. It is that the same publication I found out because I had published the previous one that was arrested was the Pope. So ridiculous. Yeah. So we are a good company. Well, at least I was in good company. Yeah. But so what they do is they put out the disinfo themselves. They're mass murdering criminals. And no, you're not the target. You are the target. What does that mean? Wait, you're not

the target. You are the target. Yeah, I don't know. I guess he means you're not the target of misinformation. You're the target of our guns or something. Maybe that's the most sense read I can make of that because it doesn't really make sense. No. So yeah, I just thought that was kind of funny that Alex played that. It is pretty funny. I don't think that's necessarily specifically about infowars, but it is funny that Steve Pachanica said that the Pope was arrested. It is. That's pretty Steve Pachaniki. I think he's referencing Steve. No, no, no. Come on. There's other people who think that the Pope has been arrested. I think a lot of people in QAnon have pushed that. Really? Yeah. Weird. Less specifically than Steve. Man, I wish I would

like to see if the Pope had like a low jack, you know, just just lift up his ropes for a second. Yeah, he's got an ankle bracelet. He's got that ankle bracelet. I see that shit. So this plays and then they go to commercial. Sure. When they come back from commercial, Thomas Rens realizes, hey, I got to fucking respond to Schwab in that clip. And this is the worst promo I've ever heard. Oh, is he doing it? Well, let me let me open up with one thing super important. Alex, I want to respond to that last clip that you just played because those two arrogant pieces of garbage that are out there telling us what they're going to do and laughing about their being in good company. I got a message for you guys. I am a nobody from a little town in

Ohio. Yeah, yeah. And me and a whole bunch other nobodies from little places in the United States is stood up and we are at a much lower rate of vaccination than you ever thought we would be. You thought you were going to take us over. You didn't know. We nobodies, we are the resistance. We, the people, thanks to Alex Jones, we have a voice. Oh boy. Yeah. Put him on. Look out, Shay. We got a new t-shirt coming into colleges all over the world. Whoa, that's the leader of the resistance right there. Such a low vaccination rate, lower than you could have imagined. It's thanks to Alex's bullhorn. What an absurd thing. Our vaccination rate is lower than you ever thought. Cool. You got us. Wow. Some people just don't

know how to say arrogant well. So we get to the discussion of monkeypox and it's pretty dumb. So we've got, and I just put it on my substack. I just put out a substack today to get ready to talk to you. We've got, they've done gain a function on monkeypox. So monkeypox normally doesn't spread very easy. And I'm hoping it doesn't spread very easy here, but here's the thing. Wait, what? They've got the exact same scenario happening with the monkeypox that they had with COVID. They ran their simulations. They've been planning for it. They've been building up fear, all this nonsense. So here's my question. Is the monkeypox that's running around now, is this at natural monkeypox or is this another gain of function? Oops, release, right?

And we don't know that yet. We don't know. The only reason that Thomas Ranz doesn't know what the situation is with monkeypox is because he is an idiot and he hasn't looked into it at all. He's a right-wing clout doctor writing his anti-vex shit for all it's worth and he sees another fun season of scamming from monkeypox if he plays his cards right. Yep. If Ranz has spent a couple minutes on the subject before writing that substack and coming on Alex's show to discuss a topic he knows nothing about, he would know that samples from the current outbreak have been studied and are clearly from the West African strain that has existed for a long time. Yeah. There are a number of theories about exactly how the outbreak has happened, a couple of them involving raves and

large gatherings in various countries, but more will likely be known specifically in time. Yeah. What there is currently no evidence of is that monkeypox was made in the lab as a bio-weapon or is going to lead to lockdowns or forced vaccinations. Yeah. That's all just the dumb bullshit that people like Alex and Ranz used to keep their customer base scared and in their customer base. Yeah. It's been a long time since we've had to use that old adage. A rave in Denmark means monkeypox in Florida, but it's holding strong still after all these years. Thomas Jefferson. You know, I was just thinking we're going to hear that over the next rest of our lives again and again and again and again. This is just like what they did with COVID is going to dog us until we

die. Sure. For 20 years from now, they're going to be like, oh, this is just like the gain of function they did with COVID. It's just never going to stop. But I think unfortunately, you did have that exact dynamic playing out just in under-the-surface conspiracy communities with like terrorist attacks, just like 9-11. That kind of stuff. Those conspiracy communities were just largely ignored. They did not have as much impact on people's actual lives. And so, yeah, I think it's more a publicness and awareness problem than it is. This thought process is like, that's not new. It's just it having an impact on people who don't choose to engage with dumb conspiracy worlds. That's the difference. And that's unfortunate. So we have

one last clip here. And I think it's a little bit hedging because, hey, maybe it's not going to be monkeypox. All right. All right. So this is like Pascal's wager for info wars. Maybe it's not going to be monkeypox. Now I'm saying it is. Hey, it looks like it could be a false flag. It looks like it might have been made in the lab. But if it's not, I don't think there's a God. But hey, I'm just going to say maybe I believe in him. Why not? But if it's not monkeypox, probably be something else. Probably something else. You know, if it's not the monkeypox, we already know they're talking about the next new variant for COVID. You know, there's going to be a next thing. They're not giving this up. And we either defeat this evil or it will continue coming

after us. And that's right. They're getting us into a rhythm of lockdowns and surveillance and forced injection. They're getting us into the new normal in their own words. We can't let them do that. Well, and let's not overlook the summer rage. I did another sub stack. I talked about the summer. Let's not overlook the summer of rage. No, you think Alex has talked about this? I think Alex has talked about the summer. I think Alex has in the past spoken sparingly of the summer of rage. God, I can't. I can't handle that being a present day thing that is being talked about. It's the summer of rage. This thing that we hear every year on Alex's stupid show. Summer of rage. So yeah, I think I think this is a disgraceful next day. But one of the things that I think

is worth noting is that a lot of the shifting details did not necessarily happen in the first day. Right. Some of that happened a little bit further down the line. But you already see the nebulousness of this in terms of Alex's coverage. Yep. The day of when he did his emergency report, we had this misidentification and everything is psych meds. Yeah. And now we have misreporting that is understandable about like the Border Patrol guy going quick. Sure. Sure. And I just think it's really weird that he said that there wasn't a stand down. I mean, it's almost like it validates him making shit up because when he tried not to make shit up, it was wrong. It was a lie. He can't be right no matter what. He just can't do it. So he's like,

well, I might as well fucking make it up even when I try not to make it up. I'm filled with shit. It makes the Alex Jones's right memes more bizarre. Yes. We'll be back on Monday and we'll track a little bit further down the road and see how things go as details start to emerge. And Alex has to deal with stuff that might be in his kind of wheelhouse. It's got to stay one step ahead. But when there is chaos and confusion, that is something that he is well versed in exploiting. And the cement is still wet. True. Yeah. And it's long, long drying. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. We will see what happens. But until then, Jordan, we have a website. We do. It's knowledge right.com. Yep. We're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's at knowledge of the score fight and I go

to bed Jordan. Yep. We'll be back. But until then, I'm Leo and Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I hope you all have a dreamy, creamy summer. And now here comes the sex robots. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.