Knowledge Fight - #689: May 26, 2022

Episode Date: June 6, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan continue to view Alex's Uvalde shooting coverage.  In this installment, Alex implores the audience to not blame the police for anything, and workshops ways to make schools more ...like jails with a guy who used to work for Blackwater. Citations

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge back now. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. Workable dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are. Dan Jordan. Jordan. Quick question for you. What's your bright spot today? My bright spot today is that the dreamy creamy summer keeps on rolling. Although I don't know who would roll. It would sort of. It would splat. It's splatting along splat all over the sidewalk. Right. It is melting downhill or something. Yeah. But today I'd like to give a shout out to something that I have enjoyed. And so this is a tip of the cream to you. No, no, no, no, no, disqualify
Starting point is 00:01:39 turn of the cream. Turn of the cream counts. Okay. Cool house. H. A. U. S. Cool house. Got a street churro flavored ice cream. Interesting. They have an account. All right. It's pretty nice. Yeah. I enjoy it. I don't think it's great. Well, I don't know. Maybe it's I mean, what are you going to do? Maybe it's good. Maybe it's not. I don't know, but I enjoy it. Nice little bit of chocolate and cinnamon situation going on. Great. I'll tell you that if you like that. Jenny's cinnamon roll. Oh, I can see that. That's the shit. I could see that. Also, everyone stops sending me pictures of the grape on ice cream. Yeah, we've we've got the mustard. I can say I don't know if that's real or not. I don't care. I will not
Starting point is 00:02:21 be eating it. Maybe I would. That's going to go. That's going to be at the end of the dreamy creamy summer. That's going to be like the demarcation. That's like the end of the 70s. You know, you'll know whenever everybody is gone to shit. That's the way you do it. We could. We could. Well, I mean, the dreamy creamy summer does go till September 11th. So it would make sense if we end with a mustard ice cream. That is true. That is true. Very disrespectful. Never forget. What's your bright spot? My bright spot, Dan. You would think today being today that Rafa winning his 14th French Open would be my bright spot. I thought that happened already. No, no, no. He defeated Djokovic. Oh, sorry. Sorry. You see, that's why it's not my bright spot,
Starting point is 00:03:01 because defeating Djokovic was winning the French Open. What he did to a let's call him a man, but what he left with today would make him suggest that he was not the the Rafa murdered this man, the young guy who was a hot shot that you were into. Yeah. No, no, no, no. Different guy. Okay. No, no, no. He got he not aboard. Okay. This is a different guy. Okay. He's good. Sure. Right. Made it all the way to the final of the French Open. Got to be good to do that. And then Rafa committed what could be described as vehicular manslaughter. Oh, no. He hit him with a truck. Oh, dude only won six games in three sets. 636360. Wow. But that's not my bright spot, dad. Okay. My bright spot. I don't know how to assess that as a tennis score, but it doesn't
Starting point is 00:03:45 sound good. It's not good. Okay. It's real bad. All right. Uh, no, my bright spot is last night, my partner and I went to see Segaros in concert. Yeah. First time in 15 years, they are absolutely as good as they were. I'm sorry I couldn't join you. I was busy working on this episode and then like a computer crashed and I lost everything I did. You had to do it all over again. So you maybe should have just gone with it. In hindsight, it would have been about equal if I had been about the same. Oh, well, except you would have gotten to see Segaros. That's true. Yeah. That's true. But it was good time. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. You can't, you can't describe a Segaros concert like my, my partner, she is not an interested fan of Segaros by any stretch of the imagination.
Starting point is 00:04:25 But when you see them live, it's not just that. It's an experience. No, it's more like art installation. Like it's a full on thing. Sure. Like, and it's amazing. And she loved it. Great. It's great. So Jordan, what is not an art installation is the episode. We are continuing our path through Alex Jones's coverage after the Uvalde shooting and the subsequent corrections of misstatements made by public officials in Texas. And today marks when some of the stuff was starting to get a little bit murkier. Yeah. And some of the initial reports were very clearly like, we got some of this shit all wrong. I mean, the weirdest part about living in the future now is that we know what we're going to listen to the corrections themselves, our lies.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Sure. So it's like, we're going to hear them correct their own lies with new lies. And we're going to be like, this is what's supposed to be happening today. I get that. And simultaneously, we don't really know, even as we sit here today, 100% of what you would really need to know in order to fully address some of Alex's claims of this whole thing. We can deal with it as it appears, and we can definitely see trends and behaviors. And so while perhaps some of the fact checking aspect of it might be a little bit, we may have to leave that for posterity to some extent. But yeah, this episode's pretty interesting, I would say. I think there are some very out of character moves interest that he makes that I'm still not quite sure what I think about.
Starting point is 00:06:13 And I might need your help to talk through a little. Right. But before we get to that, let's take a little moment, Jordan, to say hello to some new wonks. Oh, that's a great idea. So first, Jane the Nia here asking all the listeners to play We Know the Devil. It's a great game on Switch and Steam and Alex would hate it. Thank you so much. You're an out policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, Alex Jones, The Lazy Man's Quasats Hatterac. Quasats Hatterac. I'm sure it's a Dune reference for all your dorks. It is a Dune reference. Anyway, you're an out policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Next, Aten downtown Austin didn't get mugged. Thank you so much. You're an out policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very
Starting point is 00:06:52 much. Thank you. Next, The Shookster. Thank you so much. You're an out policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. And I don't know Andy from Kansas, isn't it? At this point, I'm too afraid to ask. Thank you so much. You're an out policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Now, Jordan, we got a couple of technocrats in the mix. Oh shit. And coincidentally, there were requests to play the old technocrat drop. Now, there are more than two. I was going to say which old technocrat drop. So I don't know. I've got one and I hope it's the right one. Am I going to have to say Caribbean Black Axan again? I'm not sure. We'll find out. I don't remember which one is which. I don't remember which one I did. So anyway, thank you so much to
Starting point is 00:07:27 been listening since 2017. And I'm so damn proud of you guys. You are now a technocrat. And Kevin, thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone, Sonamite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark. Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. Jar Jar Minks has a Caribbean Black Axan. He's a loser, little, little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounced Jesus Christ. That was a pretty, that was a pretty good drop. I don't know. Whoever made that one had a good answer. He had some good instincts. We should give that to you to show. Wow. Forgot about some of those, some of those comments.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Yeah. So Jordan today, like I said, we're going over May 26th, 2022. And actually when the show opens, somebody is missing in action. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the Alex Jones show. I'm Harrison Smith sitting in momentarily for Alex Jones. He had a family engagement that he's doing right now. So he'll be in within the hour, the bottom of the hour, maybe 30 or 45 minutes, but I'm just going to cover some of the news here in the meantime, but he is on his way. So as it turns out, Alex shows up 47 minutes into the show. Well, that's not great. I believe as he explains it, it was his youngest child's graduation from like kindergarten or something. So I'm definitely willing to believe that. That's a worthy cause
Starting point is 00:08:59 to take off work. I'm a support that. Yeah. Yeah. No shade or anything except for that. It was Harrison that said that's not great. I think if I were an info wars listener, the saddest words in the in the world would be welcome to the Alex Jones show. I'm Harrison Smith. It's under it's underwhelming for sure. It's not what you're looking for. No. Yeah. Like a lot of times, you know, you get to get a strong sense that Alex is playing with lawyers or something, but this no, that's right. Yeah. It's about the right time of year for it in the right time of day. No, the whole thing. Yeah. You can't reschedule that or anything. Listen, info wars is going to go away, but your daughter's there forever. Right. It's nothing if not a family show.
Starting point is 00:09:42 And why didn't they broadcast it on the on live? So anyway, Alex comes in 47 minutes into the show. And here's where he's at. Okay, we have a correction to make. And when we get things wrong, we want to make corrections. We don't get things wrong on purpose. And I want to be very, very clear. That's an absurd that we're not also blaming the police. We have a lot of inside information that's also been confirmed. And we have Tim Inlow, who is a police trainer all over central Texas, and who actually is the main trainer for some of the larger cities and their schools and police departments and courthouses. He's also the head of our security, but he works almost every weekend and takes off many times during the week as part of his contract
Starting point is 00:10:22 with us to continue on with his other separate work. So he specifically has a lot of sources, a lot of intel. So Tim Inlow is Alex's security guy. He was also with him on January. Yeah, I was going to say it's that guy, right? He used to be with Blackwater. Our mercenary has told us exactly what's going on. Our soldier of fortune. It's weird that Alex is coming right out of the gate being like we have a correction to make, because that's not normal behavior for him. No. But I think in one of these instances, the correction is much easier to swallow if you're someone like Alex because... Everybody's making corrections left and right. I don't think anybody has been
Starting point is 00:11:09 like, wow, I nailed it. Zero people. I think the only people who have not had to make corrections are people who just said, I don't know what's going on. I'm not going to say anything. 100%. Yeah. And so I think that he recognizes that temperature is there and he has a chance to pivot off whatever narrative he's on and he can start over. True freedom. True freedom. And you can do that through a correction. And so here is basically him doing that. So he specifically has a lot of sources, a lot of intel. And what I was already hearing this morning was that the police thought it was a hostage situation because he wasn't shooting people. He went and held a class hostage. And then when they started trying to bust in to stop it,
Starting point is 00:11:53 he killed the kids. And so everybody's saying, oh, the police are out there tackling people, they're tasering people. It's a horrible image and you're a parent. You want to give them to save your children. And it probably would have been better just to rush in, but then you could have got a bunch of kids shot in that process. It's a hostage situation and it's the killer's fault that this happened. So it looks like the way Alex is going to try to make sense of the delayed police response and the new information that's coming out is by claiming that it wasn't actually a school shooting, but instead was a hostage situation. Right. I can kind of understand how Alex would be coming to this point, but there's still major holes in this idea.
Starting point is 00:12:28 It would make sense to claim that maybe the police thought that it was a hostage situation, but even that doesn't really make sense given the information available. Also, just one small note, and this is going to be a little bit murky territory. Alex is openly talking about having behind the scenes secret sources of information. So the way I was looking at this with like judging him solely by what's public information, that kind of can't be how we approach this anymore. And we can have a little bit more of our own actual awareness of information. I don't know. It's not going to be perfect, but he is no longer bound by the public information rules. So on May 27th, the Texas Department of Safety director and colonel Stephen McGraw
Starting point is 00:13:19 gave a press conference where he explained the police decision to not barge through the classroom door. This was the result of the commander on scene making the incorrect determination that the situation had transitioned from an active shooter to a barricaded suspect, which meant deploying different tactics. That explanation included a determination that because there were so many shots fired immediately, there was likely no one alive in the classroom, and that possibly the shooter was trying to lure them in so he could commit suicide by cop. Sure. So that also has problems because there were 911 calls that they received said the people were alive. And so I don't know how that assessment makes sense. But using that kind of view, you
Starting point is 00:14:03 can kind of see how Alex could make a leap to hostage situation. Sure, sure. But there's still problems. The first is that the police didn't treat this like a hostage situation. They allegedly thought there were no more children at risk and didn't think that the shooter had hostages, according to the statements that were made in that press conference. And there wasn't like a hostage negotiator that came in that didn't slide a phone in or anything. Nope. Alex has some very basic details in here wrong, particularly the part about the shooter not killing people initially. Ultimately, it's nice of him to do a correction, but he's going to have to do another correction on top of this one. I mean, why bother at this point in time? You know,
Starting point is 00:14:48 the correction you make is this. They started saying some shit, and that doesn't track because that's also not the same shit they said earlier. And now when we said that it doesn't track, they said some different shit. So here's what we're going to do. Here's my correction. Those motherfuckers is lying. You can't do that. And I'll explain why later. Obviously, but, you know, you have to do something, I think, because Alex's entire narrative of the shooting hinged around the idea that this hero cop went in and took the took the shooter out quickly. And that was something that was sold on his show. And so now you need to, as more details come out, people in your audience are probably going to hear these things that are
Starting point is 00:15:31 contradictory to the story that you've told. So you can't keep going the same direction. You have to go a slightly different direction. And this is an interesting way to do it. I think it's bad. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't. It does not hold up. It's real bad. Yep. So anyway, the problem is that Alex listened to the mainstream news. That was really that was a terrible idea. Yeah. The correction is we went with the mainstream news that as soon as this guy ran out of his vehicle, crashed it, ran into the school. First, he shot at people at a funeral home across the street. Then he ran to the school and that within minutes, this Border Patrol agent went in and killed him and got wounded. That's not what happened. It is the Border Patrol agent that was going to the school
Starting point is 00:16:16 first and was outside the door and made the decision when he heard the shooting start to get through. But the doors designed to not let shooters get in. So it was a big steel barricaded door. So he had to then find a panic teacher while the shooting is going on and while bullets are coming to the door at him, this is coming out to get the damn door open. So very easy to blind the police. And when the police are bad, we'll tell you about it, obviously. You can we call in if you want. We'll we'll hear your views on this. But the left is using this for more defund the police, more federalize the police. So there's no indication that the classroom door operates the way Alex is describing, like some kind of a panic room situation where once a lockdown
Starting point is 00:16:55 is initiated, it can't be opened except by a very specific action. It was just locked. Colonel McCraw was very clear that not breaking down the door was a decision the police made based on a miscalculation of the situation. And in his press conference, it's even discussed how Ramos entered the classroom, locked the door and then unlocked it to momentarily enter the hallway only to re enter the room and relock the door. Two additional problems with this idea Alex is putting forth here are one, if the police had a convenient excuse like we literally could not open that door, that would have been front and center as an explanation for what happened because it would make a lot of the worst details of this police response easier to understand. It would
Starting point is 00:17:36 be like, well, now we have a new problem we need to look at, which is they would be over the moon constantly repeating like, oh, we did everything we possibly could. Oh, no, we were so great fingers would be pointing to the manufacturer of the door. Yeah, you know, like it would it would be a and it would be a sensible deflection of the conversation. People would have been like, here's the problem, our guns weren't big enough to blow up that door. And we would have given more money to the cops. Like that's the level of bullshit we would be dealing with. Definitely would have been a big proposal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How about everybody has bazookas just all the time. Sure. Yeah. And so the second problem here is that that door, whatever it is, that has no bearing on the situation
Starting point is 00:18:21 if it actually was a hostage situation, you can take hostages in a bank vault or a treehouse. Like ultimately, this just feels like a way that Alex is trying to make sure no one in the audience has too much of a bad feeling about the police. Like Mr. Police State really it hits different in 2022. I think the one thing that really disappoints me about the the ideological realignment is that the left and the sovereign citizen adjacent types should be in complete accord regarding cops only just like the cops, you know, like no, no, no, no. And that well, not like not okay, well, not all the way like the sovereign citizens. They think you can kill cops at traffic stops all the way, not all the way. All right. But I just but you also not the other
Starting point is 00:19:13 direction where you defend them unquestioningly. That is kind of strange. The this impetus on Alex's part. But I think I do understand why and we'll get to that as we go along. I think I get that aspect of guns are more important than not living in a police state. I don't think that's what's going on. I think that there are certain dynamics that are essential for what Alex is doing that require him to not be critical of the police. Gotcha. And I think he makes that too clear. Okay. Anyway, Alex really is into this new narrative that it was primarily a hostage situation and not actually school shooting. But this garbage went on. We're now learning for an hour and then he started executing with children and the and the two teachers that had been in
Starting point is 00:20:01 the classroom. So that's what's going on. And the details are coming out. The Democratic Party is seizing on this and not even getting into the real issues. And so we're going to continue to try to give you the best, most accurate information we can. Now again, Tim Inlow did not want to come on yesterday. And he did not want to come on Monday night because he didn't have the information. He's ready to come on at 1230 bottom of the hour in about 40 minutes from now to break it all down for you. And he's on the phone right now, calling his contacts. He's obviously got contacts everywhere. So he's got Tim Inlow, the ex-merk, who's going to be his expert. And that's going to take up a large portion of this episode. His interview with with Tim, which is less productive than you
Starting point is 00:20:50 might think. I don't know what I don't know what you would think it was. Would you think it would be fair enough? I was in trouble as soon as I started. That's when she said the word productive. You were like, why am I here? Yeah. So before Tim comes in, there's other there's other things Alex needs to complain about. Like he's got to keep spinning that plate right that has the word monkey pox on. Oh my God. Now a lot of other stuff's going on, obviously with the new lockdowns they're pushing. The monkey pox fair mongering. And finally, a lot of leaders not just here, but around the world are getting it. So going through my stack today, I ran across six or seven articles where people are saying, you know, if there's new lockdowns, it's going to kill 10s
Starting point is 00:21:32 of millions more people. We can't allow this. And cutting off the fossil fuels is going to kill hundreds of millions over the next decade of not billions. That society collapses. But still, even the news gets it wrong. Like, Oh, the left just has bad policies. They don't know what they're doing or Mao Zedong had bad policies that killed 80 million Chinese. He didn't know what he was doing or Stalin and Lenin had bad policies. They didn't know what they were doing that killed 20 million plus people. No, they're doing it on purpose to take over society in their own admissions. Here's one of the headlines leftist are about to kill millions of people right before our eyes. That is a very important stack. We need to remember
Starting point is 00:22:08 all the murder and death and war and open borders and human smuggling and everything that's going on while the media takes a horrible tragedy like this and blows it up to make the biggest thing in the world. And this guy executed one six year old. It'd be the worst thing in the world because whether it's one person or a million, the problem isn't guns. And we all know that if you're being logical, so yeah, he can't really find a way to articulate what he's saying there because he's like, All right, look, there's a lot of bad stuff. So why are we allowing the left and the globalists to turn this into the worst thing ever? Also, even if you just killed one kid, it would be the worst thing ever. Yeah. Like, what are you saying? I think he just wants to get to
Starting point is 00:22:51 the end point where it's like, this is obviously the left's fault. And it's fine if you dehumanize them and, you know, eventually we'll get rid of all of them. I think he wants to minimize the shooting but also realizes that doing so is a really bad look and distasteful. Well, I mean, if your end goal is to say, no matter what, this isn't guns fault, then everything that you're trying to make up to get there is going to get eventually stupid. True. You know, true. It's sometimes quicker than other times. Yeah, that's true. That's true. So they're like, like we all know, there have been a number of things that have been put forth about the early police response that has not held up. That is definitely an understatement. Yeah. Alex blames the media for
Starting point is 00:23:37 this. Oh, God, gentlemen, the big scandal right now isn't just the poor 19 children and two teachers that died. It's that the media first reported wasn't even the state police or local police or war patrol saying this. But the media said, Oh, you know, he ran off in a ditch being chased, shot the police, ran into the school, sort of shooting people. No, he went to the school, barricaded himself behind an armored door that he was able to get them to open up and get into or wasn't locked to then lock that so that the police didn't know what was going on inside. And so it went on for almost an hour of him barricaded inside. Then it's just coming out. Now he started executing the people inside. Now that's here and there in the news, they're admitting
Starting point is 00:24:25 that's the case. But the big push is see, we got to federalize the police or the police are bad and they stood down. This was not like Parkland. So again, there's no stand down. It's important because I imagine you will get eventually absurd. How? So Alex is acting like the media wasn't just reporting what the spokespeople for the Texas Department of Public Safety were saying. He sincerely is trying to suggest that outlets like CNN or The Times who definitely did get stuff wrong were just making those things up. The reason for this is because Alex constantly makes things up and he assumes that everyone else does too. He doesn't seem to have any concept that other people don't base their reporting on hunches, vibes and made up decades old prophetic
Starting point is 00:25:06 visions like he does. But I mean, it would cause some confusion. Yeah. And the obvious reality behind that, though, is if you follow at equality Alec on Twitter, he's obsessed with Copaganda and the way that the media just accepts unquestioningly the things that the cops tell us and just puts it as their own sources. And that's where we are. So if you want to criticize the media in this situation, that's because they unquestioningly reported what the cops told them. That is a different criticism. Totally a different and a valid one. And a valid criticism. That is not what Alex is saying. He wanted to go there. Then yes, but he doesn't know because that would be productive. It would be very productive. And there's another problem. And this is what's,
Starting point is 00:25:47 I think, part of a big part of what's going on. And that is that if Alec were to treat the situation realistically, his new narrative would have some difficulty getting off the ground. Alex is trying to push this new narrative where Tim Inlow has this inside intel about how it was a hostage situation, but this information is coming from where? The credibility of what Tim has to say rests entirely on the notion that he's relaying information from high-level law enforcement sources who are familiar with the case. If that's the game you're playing, you can't also be sniffing out a massive conspiracy where the police aren't being forthright about the response to the shooting and have given inaccurate statements to the press multiple times so far. If you attack the credibility
Starting point is 00:26:27 of the police, you're hindering your ability to pass off whatever information Tim has as being meaningful. Or at very least, you may have to explain why the information the police have released publicly has been iffy and the information released to Tim should be believed. By making these inaccuracies and misreporting that's gone on in this case a situation where the media lied, you can sidestep the need to explain anything. And it gives you a chance to take a fraudulent cheap shot at the media while you're at it. And that's, I think, a big part of what he's doing. Totally. Yeah. I mean, you can't, you can't assume that the police are lying if you have a, or even like if you wanted to put it super benevolently, are fumbling their public
Starting point is 00:27:06 statements so terribly that they have to make fundamental corrections. You can't have that and also try and be like we have insider police sources who are giving us the real skinny. Because if that's the case, then you have whistleblowers. You don't have inside information. If the official narrative is bullshit and you've got a on the background anonymous sources coming in to tell you the truth and they are telling you the whistleblowers report. And that means that either everybody's lying or the whistleblowers are telling the truth. Yeah. Yeah. And it gets too complicated after that point. Nope. Can't do it. Never. So this, the Alex talks about another school shooting and he lies about something. Yeah. He's also our security head here.
Starting point is 00:27:56 He is going to be in studio with us and he has contacts and law enforcement is getting more details right now of exactly what went on inside of that building. When the police do bad things, we're all over them. When Soros gets district attorneys appointed and police chiefs that are globalist, we expose them. I mean, I see cases where they won't prosecute armed robbers and killers. You see that all the time. There was a school shooting last year up in Fort Worth. That shot three people. Black guy. He was out the next morning from jail. So weird how Alex points out that the guy is black. Amazing. We went to racism so fast. Yeah, that definitely seems like a relevant detail in this case, not something that he's just bringing up because it reinforces
Starting point is 00:28:36 the white victimhood theme of his show where all non white people get away with everything. Just non white people. This isn't necessary for this part of the story either. I'm just going to throw this in there for fun. So this guy who Alex is talking about got out the next day because his parents paid bail. Like, I guess Alex wants people detained without bail. Yeah, there's no, I mean, what do you want? He shot and injured four people after bringing a gun to school and shooting at a guy he'd gotten in a fight with. And in February of this year, a grand jury indicted him on seven charges, including three for attempted murder. Like, Alex is acting like they just let him go. I mean, you know, nothing, no trouble.
Starting point is 00:29:11 That's the impression that he wants the audience to have in their head, right? Because he hasn't kept up with this case. He probably just skimmed a headline about it. And he's like, Oh, these black people just get away with everything. Totally. Whenever and when maybe even when you like look it further into that story, you're like, Wait a second, the cash bail system is so fucked up. How does this kid get to get out whenever so many other people would be in there because they can't afford bail? Like there's a larger question around that that he's not even fucking willing to talk about. Sure. Yeah. As is always the case with info war stories, there's a larger, there's a bigger, more important, useful question that is just completely ignored.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Yep. So Alex has to deal a little bit with the notion that they didn't let the parents in. Yeah, that one's going to be real tough to try and lie about. Let's just say he does not deal with some of the more troubling realities of how the parents just ignores those. Well, maybe he doesn't know, right? He doesn't know that the cops cuffed one of the parents. I'm not sure. But he thinks it's a, you know, unfortunate, but sensible thing. Hey, it's smart. Could the police on a better job? Absolutely. Should we learn from this? Absolutely. But just to say that, Oh, they kept people from going to save their kids. Now we know it was a hostage situation. And that was what was going on. But if more comes out and information changes, we will definitely let you know. All
Starting point is 00:30:41 right. We have a lot of other news on the economy, a lot of other news on global starvation, the latest on monkeypox, baby formula running out, not just here, but all over the Western world. And more shortages coming as a supply chain breaks down. That's why it's more important than ever now to keep info wars on the air, because our supply chains broken down, our cost have all gone up. I know the listeners of viewers all understand that we try not to go up on the prices. We try to have big sales. Apparently $8 million in Bitcoin is not enough to get him to buy a little class. Nope, not going to do it. Wow. Yep. Pretty smooth. I just pretty smooth. Whoa, this is the worst thing that's ever happened. But if you buy my stuff, then maybe the cops will
Starting point is 00:31:25 do better next time. Terror upon terror, horrible things. Those are why you got to keep me around. I mean, listen, if you don't buy my products, then who is going to tell you when these terrible things that I inspire to happen happen? I have made materially no difference in terms of solving any of the problems that I'm yelling about. And in fact, I have misreported on pretty much all of them. That's why you need to give me money to keep me on air. Excuse me, listen, I'm going to play you a clip from 1998. And it's me saying the same thing that I'm saying today. How do you feel about the 25 years in between? Well, see, I think that actually, like, if it's somebody who's like, we need to lower taxes, then it's like, it shows ideological consistency. You know, like, that's
Starting point is 00:32:14 nice. Sure. But if it's doom comes tomorrow, the summer of rage is right around the corner. If that's what's so consistent, maybe maybe we're in trouble. Maybe we should ask questions. Maybe you didn't solve anything. Throw that money somewhere else. Yeah. Anyway, we have some bad news about the New World Order. Ladies and gentlemen, we are back on this Thursday, May 26, 2022. Transmission. The Alex Jones show. It is so important to realize that they have announced their World Government Treaty. They've now released some segments of the draft. It does give veto power of the UN over national sovereignty. Biden publicly wanted that or his controllers did. Yeah, publicly. The UN has veto power over country sovereignty. Which speech to the nation
Starting point is 00:33:05 did Biden come out and was like, listen, I love being the president of the free world, and I have an absurd amount of power and influence and all that stuff. But frankly, I'm going to give all of that up to some people at the UN. I don't know why. The UN is going to just be able to veto. I just like, I'm going to be like, wait, wait, wait, you have sovereignty. No, you don't. It's so funny to me how obsessed Alex is with the UN. And then at the same time, we're one of only three nations that absolutely hates the UN to their face. It's us, China, and Russia constantly going back and forth with like, fuck you, Europe. That's it over and over and over again.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Yeah, and just remember, this is just about the amendments to the World Health Organization regulations where they can declare that something is a health emergency, even if a country is not cooperating. Which if it had happened three weeks into his, we need to demonize China for COVID thing, he would have been like, ah, now we've got him. No, because it's the UN doing something. That's true. And so you would have found a way to be against it. You're right. Yeah, this might be overselling this amendment, might be an overreaction. Little bit, maybe. Little bit. Blown it out of proportion. So we have very few instances of Alex learning. Yes, that is true. However, I think this next clip indicates at least something interesting.
Starting point is 00:34:38 They're in a process of dismantling the once free world because they don't want an example of freedom anywhere in the world, anybody else. They don't want that American benchmark. Are we perfect? Absolutely not. Are we heads above other countries on average? Absolutely. Unless you live in Luxembourg or Switzerland, and I couldn't afford to live in Switzerland. Germany? I couldn't afford to live in Luxembourg. I'm not a rich man, but I'm upper middle class. The average person could not live in a place like that. And of course, Switzerland, the citizens have to be armed by law and they have the lowest crime rate in the world. Luxembourg's in France, Jordan. Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot that one. My bad.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Alex has learned it's a country and that's exciting. Hooray. Switzerland is definitely a country with a high cost of living with three of their cities coming in the top 10 of Mercer's cost of living rankings for 2021. Zurich is number six. Geneva is eight and Bern is 10. I'm going to assume that this is a place that's so expensive to live that suddenly getting an eight million dollar windfall still wouldn't give you like a year's rent. Look, Alex is full of shade. He could afford to live wherever he wants, but also Luxembourg doesn't make that list. I don't know until number 63 Luxembourg City is 63. We're higher than Luxembourg. Chicago's 45. I was going to say we're way, way more expensive than Luxembourg. I could afford to live in Luxembourg
Starting point is 00:36:05 but based on the fact that I have survived in Chicago, that is true. That's by the transitive property. I am a Luxembourgian. Frankly, you'd be wealthier in Luxembourg than you are here. Yeah, in theory. Although it's much smaller. That doesn't mean there aren't some places to live. What is wealth? Sure. Anyway, it's just exciting that he knows that it's a country. That's all I really, that's my main point. That is nice. So we get to this conversation with Tim Inlow, ex-blackwater fella who Alex should hate because he used to hate blackwater and, but he kind of forgot about all that. This guy's a mercenary who kills people for money. I feel like that's something that we don't just really accept as a thing that we talk
Starting point is 00:36:45 about. We're all like, assassins are bad, but then this guy is like, I'm going to go kill people for money. Used to be. Yeah, gotcha. Anyway, Alex sets up their conversation by getting some things wrong. We're here to get the facts on what happened Monday afternoon in Yvaldi, Texas. I wanted to get my friend who's a school safety trainer for the police, but also does it for courthouses you name it. Tim Inlow in on Monday and Tuesday, but he said he wanted to get more facts. At first, the media said that a state police were chasing him with a border patrol and then he crashed the vehicle, ran in the school sort of shooting people. That's not the case. He went and barricaded himself in a classroom behind an armored door, was holding hostages. That's
Starting point is 00:37:23 confirmed, but it's not being pushed in the news. You have to dig to find that. And they're just saying the police just stood down. I'm not sure what confirmed means to Alex, but again, the media didn't just report these things like they didn't make them up. They were misstatements made by public officials that were underneath the things that got misreported. Yeah, that's an important thing to understand. Like when the actual media is getting something wrong, it's generally because there was an official that made an inaccurate statement. When Alex gets something wrong, like in this case, how he reported that the shooter was trans on Monday evening, it's because he saw some dumb shit on 4chan and decided to run with it as if it meant anything. There's a world
Starting point is 00:38:01 of difference between these kinds of getting it wrong. And Alex hasn't even owned up to the fact that he never will. No, of course not. No, that correction that he made at the beginning of the episode has nothing to do with his disgraceful Monday night coverage. No, absolutely. I didn't put somebody at danger. Like it's it is in his mind. It makes perfect sense because it's like, listen, I report on my sources, you report on your sources, your sources of the, I don't know, government and my sources are weirdo, randoms on 4chan. I don't know what is what's so different between you and I know just because the weirdos in the government can't always be trusted to be correct. That does not make them equivalent to a random person on 4chan. It does. It does feel
Starting point is 00:38:47 like Alex is sitting across from like fucking Edward R. Miro been like in the heat. Like we're not so different. You know, we do the same job. You know, it's the same thing. Yeah. So there's just some simple facts that Alex is getting wrong here. The first is that Ramos did start firing pretty much immediately. He was shooting at the school prior to entering and within his first minute or so inside, he shot over a hundred rounds. The door wasn't an armored door. And there's no indication that this was a hostage situation. One of the things that worries me about hearing Alex talk about a hostage situation is that there's a certain high-profile hostage negotiator that Alex is friends with. And this could be a way to shoehorn Pachennik back into
Starting point is 00:39:26 the show. I was worried about this. Oh boy. I checked Steve's Twitter and it appears that he's never been in on this hostage narrative. Okay. So that's not something Alex is getting from him. All right. But he does definitely think that it's a staged false flag. Well, that is to be possibly with actors. That's to be expected. Apparently Steve can't say false flag on Twitter. So he calls things French fries, French fries instead of false flags. Yeah, just kind of cute. All right. All right. Okay. Words are easy. Yeah. So Alex, one of the main thrusts that really is running through so much of this is just like he does not want people to like blame the cops. Don't blame. So Tim Inlow is here with us to talk about this. And he can give you what his
Starting point is 00:40:13 sources are telling him and what is unknown. And so again, if the police do something bad, we will be the first to tell you police aren't perfect. Everything needs to be up to scrutiny, including us that keeps us, you know, on our toes and helps be better people. But changing this onto the police away from the psycho is garbage my view. So Tim, take over wherever you'd like to start with the information you have and what happened here. It's just a little childish to pretend that you can't have criticism of the police response. And also at the same time, keep in your mind that the person who did the shooting is responsible for doing the shooting. That is absurd that Alex has that kind of a expectation of people being only able to
Starting point is 00:40:51 keep one thought in their mind. And I guess, I mean, that's where we live in fucking politics brain in 2022. It's always everything is always distilled back down into what the right or the left are doing. And it's this and it's that. And it can't just be, you know, what though? Here's a thought I just had. What's that? You can only keep one thought in your head when someone's yelling at you and Alex yells at his audience. That's true. So maybe that's why you yell at people to try and focus them into one thought. Right. Otherwise you're all over the place. You know, you only yell at people whenever they're scattershot or if you're me. So maybe Alex has an expectation that the audience can only keep one thought in their head because through 20 years of empirical
Starting point is 00:41:32 evidence, right, them getting yelled at by him, they can only keep one thought in there. It is. It is presumptuous of us to look at his 25 year ass career and be like, I think we understand his audience better. True. Yeah. So Tim, I got to say the information that he provides sounds fairly similar interest to the stuff that is said by Colonel McCraw the next day at the press conference. Okay. So I am not too far off from believing that Tim absolutely does have some police sources totally and probably has some line on the information that would be given tomorrow now. Sorry. This is such a fucked up situation in our in our perspective of it because Alex is trying to parrot the truth when he never does. And in so doing is wrong.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Alex has a source with actual sources, which never happens. Seemingly. Yes. And they're wrong. And it's this is this is unprecedented. Shit. Yeah. And one of the things that's even weirder about it is that I don't know for sure, obviously, but it sounds a lot like the information that came out the next day. Sure. But it's not the information that Alex is reporting. Great. And I think that there's a weird distinction here. Right. So here's the basic gist of what Tim's got. Okay. Well, first of all, I'd like to say that we're still in the very, very early stages of the investigation, right? So there's new facts coming out literally every hour, every day, right? So but what we're hearing right now is just as you alluded to
Starting point is 00:43:18 at the intro, and that is that it now appears that some kind of contact was made with the shooter by law enforcement before he went into the school. And then somehow he managed to enter the school, enter a classroom, and then potentially lock that door or somehow barricade that door to where law enforcement couldn't immediately go in after him. The other thing is that I'm hearing is that, you know, at first, we were led to believe that this guy ran into school and just started shooting. But now they're saying that he may have been in that classroom for upwards of 30 to 45 minutes, not killing, while law enforcement kind of treated it as a barricaded subject type call rather than an active shooter call. Now, that matches fairly closely with what the colonel
Starting point is 00:44:11 said the next day, right? That does not describe a hostage situation. And there's a couple of very important distinctions. One is that when in law is saying that he wasn't shooting for long periods of time, that is true enough in terms of like matching information that we have. But he also is ignoring the part where there were that over 100 round shot, right, immediately, right, right, there is there's elements of this that's mixing some of the wrong stuff with some of the stuff that would come up the next day. Yeah, but none of it adds up to the conclusion that Alex is clearly using this information, right, to build the hostage situation narrative, right? Because according to Alex, and the way he's reporting this, he came in with the gun, didn't kill anybody,
Starting point is 00:45:01 and then an hour later, started killing people. Yep. Because it was a hostage situation, presumably, I don't know what the goal was or what he was trying to hold them hostage for, but Alex has no thought on that. No, no, no. But you can see here something that that dynamic is really, really interesting, I think, that Tim probably is getting information from the police. And Alex is embellishing on top of it. Yeah, it is. It is a little bit like what we're seeing from the police in this situation is very similar to like a fucking teen, like a teen who got caught doing something and just really doesn't want to tell the stuff that really makes them look bad. So, each time they tell the story, it's sure there's a little bit this, and I'm willing to admit that I
Starting point is 00:45:49 made some mistakes here, but this is what I really did. And you're like, no, you fucking didn't, and so on and so forth. And then Alex is out here, like a fucking best friend, like, no, no, no, he didn't just do nothing. He did even more. It was like a fucking. Yeah, it is a little strange how much damage control Alex is essentially doing for police. I just I hate having to live in a world where we live through all these Obama years, where these people were the fucking will start shooting and we're amazing and we're the fucking strongest tea party shit. And now they're whinging bootlickers trying to protect the cops from even the slightest bit of accountability. Right. And I have some thoughts about why that is the case also coming
Starting point is 00:46:35 up later. I think Alex reveals a little bit too much about where his headspace is. Yeah, vis-a-vis the police. Right, right. Protesters are eventually going to cause a problem. So Tim believes that one of the big problems that happened was that the police just didn't have the tool that they needed to get in that door. Oh my God, because again, they're hardening the facilities to keep these these crazy people, these these demon terrorists out, but then they can actually use that hardening once they're in to keep the police out. That's exactly right. And unfortunately, I think what we're probably going to see and what I'm hearing is that at least the very initial officers that were on scene that they probably did not have the breaching equipment
Starting point is 00:47:20 that they needed to immediately breach that door. That's right. They had to find a teacher with a key while he's shooting reportedly through the door. Right. And so obviously that's problematic, right? We're going to have to look at and, you know, there's already and you've covered it for the last few days, right? There's all these outcries about, oh, we need to do something, gun control, the usual drivel that we hear from the left when this happens. But what we're really dealing with here is not taking things away. What we need to do is give more and, for example, the law enforcement, they need more equipment. Every law enforcement officer should have a breaching tool in his car. Battering ram. Well, either a battering ram or some kind of, you know, like some kind of right,
Starting point is 00:48:03 some kind of pry bar, you know, seems like Alex would be opposed to that in the past. I know that militarization and over over accessorizing the police is kind of one of his big issues. Yeah. But also this doesn't match up with some of the information that we've gotten since. Yep. The notion that it was a choice to not bear like barrage at the door. And that it was just locked that Ramos just locked the door. Yep. And they had to go find a teacher with keys said the school resource officers with keys to every door in the building. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Do they? Most of them, if not all of them. Well, look, I mean, what's the point of having a police officer if you can lock him out of your room?
Starting point is 00:48:55 Fair enough. So look, the issue that you really have to get through your head is you just can't blame the police. Oh, no, you can't. Don't. Sorry, I shouldn't have I shouldn't have thought it. Yeah, no, I sense that you were thinking because it's their fault and you shouldn't do that. Oh, I'm sorry. And let's think about what come and go through all this time and your expertise on it, which is great to have you here. And I appreciate being here with. Imagine the police have to go in and then see all these dead kids. They're not the villains. They're there. They're there. They're trying to protect us. And obviously, these police in Texas, we know wanted to go in and a Border Patrol guy did finally kill this, this, this crazy animal. But just the media
Starting point is 00:49:29 changed the subject. The police is not good. Yeah. And that's ridiculous, right? Obviously, the primary responsibility for the shooting is on the shooter. But this is a pretty embarrassing presentation from Alex just the way he's going about this. There's some very serious anomalies with this situation. And his instinct as the world's number one conspiracy theorist and arch nemesis of the police state is to implore the audience not to question details of the police response. I have bananas. I'm empathetic to the police and what they have to go through, particularly on a day like that. But to pretend that the media is unfairly scrutinizing this thing or that people are blaming them for the shooting, that's a dishonest framing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:07 This is so out of character for Alex that I don't know what to think. The police have said that they didn't enter the classroom because they felt that they were no longer kids at risk and things had gone to from an active shooter to a barricaded suspect. But this is severely called into question by the numerous 911 calls that people made from inside the room. Unless no one was talking to anyone else, that assessment of the situation that they made should never have been that far off from reality. A detail like that is what Alex makes his living off of. You go back and you look at all of his supposed suspicions about past mass shootings and they're all stuff like that. In terms of Sandy Hook, Alex made a big deal out of the erroneous claims from
Starting point is 00:50:48 Wolfgang Halbig like that they didn't let paramedics and EMTs into the school and he latched on to shit that flimsy in order to craft his conspiracy narrative. And yet in this case, he doesn't seem to be doing the thing that he tends to always do. I mean, it is, it is almost cosmically ironic. It is almost cosmically, I have finally taken one thing from the past four years of Sandy Hook lawsuits, which is I'm not going to question whether or not what's going on happened. And this is the one fucking time in his career. Well, no, here's the, here's the, I mean, it's not, but you know what I mean? Here's the issue. Like conspiracy theorizing about this, even conspiracy theorizing in terms of the police, I think, is irresponsible. But having some questions about like, how was
Starting point is 00:51:40 this misconstrued so badly? Sure. Sure. Where was the decision made that was so wrong in terms of the response? Right. How did, you know, like taking a full accounting of how this happened is something that, you know, that's what Alex prides himself on. He questions things. Yeah. It's your God given right as an American and he's not doing that. Yeah. He's questioning other aspects of this. Yeah. Like, whether or not, whether or not the shooter was into Satan or something. Yeah. Yep. I don't know. I don't know. Cause it seems like the conspiracy is the afterwards part, you know, like it's fairly clear from what we do know and can at least concretely understand is that all of these cowards walked in and just acted cowardly. And then later,
Starting point is 00:52:29 whenever people started questioning, they were like, Oh shit, this is not how we want to be presented. We're supposed to be like fucking King Leonidas and the 300 protecting these people from the onslaught of the fucking Persian. So they made it up then and they tried to coordinate their stories. And then it fell apart because they can't. I, there's a lot of appearances and yeah, I have a difficult time fully signing onto what you're saying because there are some leaps that you're making. Sure. But it's, there's going to need to be a lot of explanation because I can't, it's confusing. It's, it's, it's a situation that I is boggling. But there are, there are potentially less interesting explanations that maybe the conspiracy mind wants to go.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Totally. Totally. I think one of our, I mean, ultimately the root cause is we have an entire now fifth branch of government that is entirely built around not taking responsibility for anything. I mean, there's a problem there. Yep. That's true. So look, Alex isn't worshiping the cops though. I mean, he kind of is, but he's not really. Okay. And I'm not here in some worship the police brown nosing position because I know the police have their own problems. The global is trying to not police departments to take them over. So then we really will have a problem. You know, like the police in, in, in global's controlled countries, but just as a father, because I know you've got children like I do older ones, younger ones like I do. And it obviously hits you in the
Starting point is 00:54:01 guts. Some of your children just had a graduation yesterday. My five year old daughter just turned five on single to my own. She just had a graduation today. You look at this, you just can't imagine somebody doing this and executing children. And again, let's not forget that's who did this. And you can't expect a plumber to come to your house and fix the pipe in an hour. Imagine police showing up and they don't even know what's going on. And they're told there's a guy barricaded in with children. Then that process happens, the image of them tasering people and arresting people trying to break in. I don't blame those parents either. This is a mess. But it's the evil guy that caused this, but just getting into training or getting into any point you want to make him,
Starting point is 00:54:36 because you know, I'll just take over here. You can't blame the plumber for not fixing your pipes. What? Here's the, okay, I understand the empathy part, you know, like, Hey, listen, if I'm, if you're telling me like, Oh no, a soldier in Iraq, imagine them coming up over the thing and they're firing bullets at you. I would never be in that situation. They are because they've spent their lives training for it in theory. What's the point of all the training if you possibly even being trained by the person Alex is talking to? Exactly. So if you're the cops, I understand that I'm empathetic, I wouldn't want to be there. That's why you spend all your fucking time doing it. Yeah. And I'm particularly empathetic to what you have to experience in those situations,
Starting point is 00:55:23 like it's unthinkable. Sure. But it doesn't remove the, the sort of responsibility to act because that is your job. Yep. Yep. And you have that training. You chose it. Yes. You chose it. You learned it. You did all the stuff. And then, I mean, and honestly, you took our money to do it. Like we are paying you. So, so Tim has something of an idea. I think this is bad, but he has an idea. Well, again, I think the biggest thing I'm seeing, and I didn't tell you this before the show, but I actually wrote my kid's superintendent yesterday, right? Because he issued an email about the shooting and everything. And, you know, it was the standard, oh, you know, we're so sorry about what happened. Our hearts go out. And then he
Starting point is 00:56:16 mentioned an increased police presence, possibly at the school for the next few days. Well, their idea of an increased police presence was an officer pretty much in plain clothes with just a pistol that was inside the school, kind of walking around, right? And again, this goes to equipment and it goes to mindset. What I'm constantly seeing still is that we're afraid in this country for an officer to be walking around with an assault rifle in a school. Why? Because it freaks, you know, they think it's going to freak parents out. Well, we know, statistically, that'll scare the perps away that no, these are a place instead of death by cop, go die like a devil, kill a bunch of kids, be famous. They just advertise like a neon sign. This is the place to come. Right. That's exactly
Starting point is 00:57:01 right. So he wants AR 15 toting cops in uniform basically at schools. This isn't good. You know, the thing I was thinking is that, sure, America has the most people in prison ever and are worse than apartheid era South Africa and our racist enforcement of that policing. But the problem was kids weren't already in prison. Like what they should have done is make prisons from the beginning, you know, like you get you turn six, you go to prison. You've got an armed guard walking around with an AR 15, making sure that you're safe. Right. And that's got to be every school. Yeah. What's the best thing for him to have them? What would be the best firearm? Well, again, I think in for school security, I think these officers need to have AR 15s absolutely and not locked away
Starting point is 00:57:51 in some locker somewhere, but they need to have them on their person. And they're big boys that can carry them around their back. Absolutely. Absolutely. Right. And I think that should be standard. And more importantly, first of all, not all schools have still don't have a school resource officers or police officers stationed at the schools. It's timed at changes. Every school in America needs to have an armed trained security officer or police officer. I went to a little tiny private Christian school, my daughter goes to. And for the first time ever, they had an armed security guard out there. That's right. I find this troubling. It seems like parody, honestly. I mean, the solution you have is like people, every single school has got somebody toting an AR
Starting point is 00:58:37 15 around. Great. You know, what's fun about people with AR 15s. Do you remember earlier on in the episode when he was like, well, we've got all these lockdown things. And then, but then when they get in, they can use the lockdown measures against you. Right. Now, let me throw this out there to you. What if I can't afford an AR 15? Right. I don't, I don't work. I don't, I'm just a seven year old, right? But I know where to get one because it's following me around all goddamn day. Yeah. I mean, you know, there are definitely stories of the good guy with a gun who gets his gun taken away from him. Yeah, no shit. You know, I don't know if a seven year old is going to be able to get that AR 15 point is point is well taken. And not just that, but like this is
Starting point is 00:59:25 it is parody. And we've seen the same response from people that like every school needs a guy with a gun now in response to the single most apt example of why that's the worst idea. Yeah. I mean, like in the situation in the shooting that they're discussing, it definitely would not have helped. Like, unless I guess the person who happened to have the AR 15 at the school, who was the good guy in theory, was right where the shooter entered, right? Was at that door, right? Is he was at a different part of the school. The entrance still probably would have happened the way it did. And I guess once he's locked that door, what are you, what are you going to do? Unfortunately, it seems as though our defensive
Starting point is 01:00:15 measures are actually offensive towards us. Maybe there's that. Oh, maybe we're stupid. Nope, can't do that. Let's put more prisons. So Alex needs to explain away a little bit of the fact that there was some milling around on the part of police. Sure, sure. And then they say these, these dudes say something that I just find incomprehensible. Right. So there is an issue of the police milling around outside waiting for orders. I think that's the bureaucracy. Well, you train people in this, what would you have done? I know you're on a Monday morning, Monday morning quarterback this time. That's tough. But here's the thing. I think, I think what we all need to need to come to the realization of is that if there is a report or if a subject is seen
Starting point is 01:00:59 going into a school armed, it doesn't matter at that moment if he's shooting or not, that suspect has to immediately be confronted by law enforcement. Well, I think if you're going into school with a gun out with it openly menacing, did you see to be killed? Well, and again, you know, there's every state has laws for citizens and for police as far as how to deal when deadly force is authorized. Right. But again, I think the empirical data now is such that no one goes into a school brandishing an AR-15 with good intentions. Okay. And I think we need to realize that and the police need to be trained to respond to that. Huh. That's a really interesting perspective for these dudes to be putting forth. For some reason, they think there's a relevant difference between a person
Starting point is 01:01:47 going to a school and a person with a gun going to a school. Odd. There's such a difference between them that one is totally fine and normal. And the other is someone who maybe should be killed on site because they possibly can't, they can't be up to any good. It's impossible. It feels like the difference is that one of these people has a gun and them having a gun seems to indicate they have bad intentions because of where they are. Yeah. This isn't something that people like Alex and Tim should ever accept as a possible conclusion because if you accept this, so many of their gun arguments start to fall apart. Oh yeah. No. If you accept this, then I mean, not just that, but like just go fucking kill Kyle Rittenhouse. That's what you said is okay to do. Well, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:28 like that's where you're going. The issue for them is that they're opening the door to accepting the idea that there's something about having a gun in a certain place that means that your intentions are bad. Right. And they can't believe that. Nope. Their whole thing doesn't stand up to scrutiny if somehow having a gun is an indication of ill will. Yep. So teachers should be allowed and forced to carry guns with them at all times. And as we all know, people never leave guns out where other people can get them. Children are never interested in curious. Don't pick up guns ever at all and definitely don't find themselves outside of the school. So, you know, those kinds of things, don't worry about it. Yeah. Problem solved. I think so. All right. So Alex has some
Starting point is 01:03:19 harsh words for people who have been loose in their coverage about this, this shooting. Again, we don't know yet if this is going to be a training issue, whether or not they were waiting because they didn't hear gunshots immediately or whether the suspects start shooting and they couldn't get in. We don't know. That's right. So all the second guessing to the facts are in by the left and others is just disgusting opportunism. That's exactly right. Within a few hours after the shooting, Alex relied on a 4chan hoax to report that the shooter was trans playing his part in a bigoted hate campaign. Throughout that broadcast, Alex and Owen incessantly accused psych meds of being responsible for the shooting with zero evidence the shooter was even on meds, something
Starting point is 01:04:00 that they still have zero evidence of. Now he's trying to get the cops off the hook for their inaccurate statements by reporting that this was a hostage situation and the media made stuff up. The sole feature of Alex's coverage has been disgusting opportunism. He can point the finger at this nebulous boogie man of the left, but he's just talking about himself. Guys sucks. Yep. No further to add. Yeah. So one thing I will say is that Alex is giving lip service to this not being staged. Yeah. But what? I'm not saying this is staged. I don't believe it was staged. I'm just saying we're going into the midterms and now all this is starting to happen. It's it's just demonic. Like what? It's weird. It is weird. It's weird. I just can't believe. I think
Starting point is 01:04:48 it's only people on the right who care about the midterms. They keep talking about the midterms. I care. I care a good bit about the midterms. Sure. I'm concerned. Sure. I have. I have some some worries and some people who some candidates who are, you know, pretty interesting hopefully can make some inroads. Sure. Sure. But yeah, I think that the sense that you get is there is a lot for the Republicans to gain if they could get all of Congress and courts. Yeah. Yeah. Once they can cement their control, it's never getting undone. So I think that, you know, isn't it kind of the way it goes though? Like in in in cycles when, you know, the one party wins the presidency, there's maybe a little bit of a
Starting point is 01:05:37 demoralization come the next midterm because the president doesn't live up to the expectations of what you would have hoped they they do. I think that's kind of a common phenomenon. Sure. Sure. And it's unfortunate because this is this is a fairly important midterm problem. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if I was if I was the Democrats, I mean, the problem is they're all going to die soon because they're also old, so they don't really care as much. But man, if I wanted to ever have power again, I would have done a lot of things differently. There are some choices. Yeah. So look, Tim has this information that he's bringing forth to Alex, this this special exclusive information. And one of the things I find really interesting about it is that some of it is accurate,
Starting point is 01:06:20 at least in terms of what is going to be reported the next day, press conference, and some of it is not some of it is very off. Interesting. And these are this is very off. Okay. So the latest report, which was posted about an hour ago, which says that at 1132 a.m. he did exchange gunfire or gunfire was exchanged outside the school. And then he managed to get into school. And then the latest report says at around 1143 a.m. he's reported killed. So we're looking at probably around 11 minutes from the time he was shooting or there was gunfire outside the school until reports are in that that he's been put down. And again, we don't know if those reports are 100% accurate. But it certainly gives a more definitive timeline that what we've had
Starting point is 01:07:14 so far. Yeah, he gives that caveat. But it's very, it's very off. Yeah. That's way off. Yes, definitely. You had you had him shooting at the school around 1131. You know, so you have that. Yeah, which is, you know, not necessarily exchanged gunfire. Maybe there's some inaccuracies about that. Right. So you can, you know, that's right around right before he he ends up entering the school. But yeah, the the the 11 minutes 14 minutes or whatever he's saying there that is that is very not accurate. Yikes. So yeah, I wonder how that's possible. I mean, I'm guessing maybe, you know, there's a confluence of sources that he has maybe and some are that some have some information that the police are going to reveal and some of it is wildly off base. If I was going
Starting point is 01:08:08 to speculate based upon this type of thing and what I know, I would say that there's a good chance that he's got some friends who are in Texas law enforcement, yes, but are not specifically there. And they have friends who were there. So maybe a little bit of a game of telephone. Exactly. Yeah, that's possible. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. It's bizarre though. Yeah, it seems like this is a level of like secondhand information instead of my buddies who are cops in the system there said this. This is probably, you know, and one of the things that kind of troubles me about this is that like that directly contradicts the stuff that Alex is saying about the hostage situation. It went on an hour. Yep. And so but they never discussed the discrepancy in the information that they're
Starting point is 01:08:52 putting forth, which I find hard to manage. Yeah. Yeah, that is difficult. Yeah. But look, this is why you yell because you can only keep one thought in your head at the same time. So that's the trick. Yeah. Yeah. Don't think about it. So Alex has another thought about what we should do. Oh, no. And it's another way to make schools present. What about the simple thing of offense around the schools as you pointed out, they can harden the actual school with all the portable buildings and all the trailers they put up. That doesn't work. Right. And that's the other thing, right? We have so many portable buildings now at schools because schools don't have the funds to build hard building or they don't have the space or whatever the case may be.
Starting point is 01:09:31 Because we gave them to the cops. I do agree that any barriers that you can in place are going to help. Yeah. And you know what? There should be a barbed wire going in. Yeah. You know what? No, it makes perfect sense. The only way that schools would get more money is if it's literally going to build a wall. I mean, it's just ridiculous. Look, at the same time, I think my school, when I was growing up, had a fence around it, but it was like a decorative fence. Yeah. It was like a nice little fence. We were there. What they're talking about is like some sort of containment fence. They're describing Joliet prison. Yes. I've been by there a hundred times. They are describing exactly what Joliet prison looks like because it's even got the red
Starting point is 01:10:16 bricks that makes it look a little bit like a school. And oftentimes with prisons, you'll have overflow and they have trailers. Yes. Because they can't afford to build more buildings. So Alex takes a look at some of these shooters, pulls up some pictures. Great. You can tell just by looking at them that they're psychotic. Yeah. They're psychotic. Good. And look at the individuals that did this. I mean, these are obvious psychotics. Yeah. And look, there were abuses in the mental institutions in the U.S., no doubt. But after the one who flies over the Cuckoo's nest in the 70s, they just got rid of them. Exactly. And so you see them go to the street corners everywhere. Yeah. We don't institutionalize them anymore. You fucking moron. One of the problems that we're
Starting point is 01:11:00 having. Wow. I never would have thought someone like Alex would be so in favor of forced incarceration in mental hospitals for people. The state deems insane. I mean, this is ridiculous because Alex doesn't believe in medicine. He doesn't believe in psychologists and the very idea of locking people up in asylums before they've committed any crimes is in direct contradiction of his beliefs about the Bill of Rights. I also would caution him that based on his very public statements and beliefs that he's espoused, he might find himself on the wrong end of getting institutionalized if this were a common practice that were to come back. Yeah. Oh, yeah. There are still mental hospitals in the United States and one flew over the Cuckoo's nest didn't turn everyone against them.
Starting point is 01:11:38 The rest of the world doesn't have all their opinions formed by movies the way that Alex does. That's kind of confusing. That is true. The issue is that most of the public funding for mental hospitals has disappeared and private mental health hospitals often aren't covered by insurance plans and Medicaid does not cover long term mental health care. Nope. A large segment of the population has basically no access to these institutions and many people who would be helped by them end up in prison because they don't have access to these things that may prevent them from being in a situation where they would commit crimes that lead them to go to prison. You got it. There are a ton of variables that go into the very sorted history of mental institutions
Starting point is 01:12:16 and a lot of these trends actually were already in motion somewhat before Reagan slash the funding for state centers in his 1981 Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act, which is where a lot of people point because it was a big blow. Yeah. For sure. But there were some trends already that predated that. Sure. Sure. Sure. And no, don't don't get me wrong. It's not they weren't great. Yeah. No, but it's it's I think my opinion on it is like it isn't the full story to blame Reagan, but why not yell it anyway? It's not not a good story to blame Reagan. No, someone's going to yell Reagan, you fuck. Yeah. I'm not going to fight this one. There's usually not anything to fight. Yeah. But it's fair enough that many people don't have access to the mental
Starting point is 01:13:04 health resources they need. But the way Alex is talking about this is stupid. And I need to point out that a major point of Alex's belief is that like MK ultra assassins were brainwashed in mental health facilities. I mean, he shouldn't think that people should be going to them. Why is he Jolly and West? Why is he even talking about mental hospitals whenever he's just saying arrest them and imprison them? Like he's just saying like we should have a prison for prison people in a prison for people who are crazy. Yeah, we should have Arkham Asylum. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Batman's rogue galleries who haven't committed crimes. And it's just it's just like Lisa from down the street. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I tried to get a raise and now I'm here forever. Get her in there. Get her in
Starting point is 01:13:51 there. Yeah. So look all their demons, man. Yep. Yep. Six of the most famous mass shooters and I mean, well, there's a dozen or more of them. I mean, look at them. And if you look in their eyes, look at them. I mean, my God, you wouldn't let that person cook you a hamburger. Right. You would not. I mean, these people, I mean, look at them. They're demons. Yeah. And again, screening and proper assessment, threat assessment of these individuals is something that is seriously lacking. They're suicidal, drug addict, crazy people into the occult and every time shoot them up games. And every time I point out, people go, well, don't be against video games. I play that. You're not a psycho. You can play a shoot them up game. You can play a military game.
Starting point is 01:14:28 It's the MO. It's the criminology. It's the psychology. I mean, we have a absolute profile on these people. I've never seen a profile so so clear and clear cut, Tim. Right. Well, but the the profile doesn't match people that like the only it only matches because he says the same things about every every single instance. It doesn't matter if they actually are. No. No. I would love for him to try and demonstrate like the the everyone's into devil worship. But like like these things are only they're only a rock solid profile because the unerring talking points of info wars. Yeah, absolutely. But that does make you a pretty fucking good profiler. If if you just live in a world where everything you say is right and you say the
Starting point is 01:15:15 same thing every time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It is. It's a lot simpler. Yeah. So Tim Inlow has got another idea here about good guys. Yeah, who have guns. No, take them away. That's how it is. Ideas. Oh, so there's like a dozen shootings on this slide, right? Were were someone who was armed. A good guy was armed and present. I sent it to them. Right. I just sent it to him. And you know, the most the most people that were shot in a situation like this were nine. Now you go to where there was no person armed, a good guy present armed and who acted and who and they waited to call 911. And now the biggest number like was the Pulse nightclub. So you're looking at 102 people shot. Right. So nine people versus 102 people. And that's just one example.
Starting point is 01:16:04 Right. Like if you go down the list, where they called 911, it's 34 people, 102 people, 34, 22, 47, 70, 28, 31, 46, 43, 46 again. Right. And on the on the other side, when there was somebody, a good guy that was armed and acted. Now the highest number is nine, but then it immediately drops down to four, five, two, one and one. Right. Like it's just there's a huge difference there. So again, this is just dishonest discourse by Biden and we know that good guys with guns have and continue to save lives. This is not how you would assess these kinds of things. This is just sort of, you know, take it back. I want asylums. I want him in there and it's got to be down deep in the dark. So this slide that Tim has just used is it's by definition
Starting point is 01:16:59 cherry picked because he says that the top one on the side of waiting for the police to respond is the Pulse nightclub shooting, but there were way more people shot in the Las Vegas shooting. There were over 400 people injured by gunfire that day. So like, I don't, why is that not on there? Well, cause that makes it really look like if you have a gun and are able to their point even better, if it's the good guy with a gun, it's, it's on the other side of the equation. Sure. But I mean, what are you, what are you going to get a sniper to get up there? Maybe in the hotel. That's fair. I don't know. Yeah. This list that Tim has may seem really convincing to an audience that already believes the conclusion, but the data doesn't back up what he's selling. For every
Starting point is 01:17:38 instance of a good guy with a gun stopping a shooting, you can find an instance of someone not intervening or someone having their gun used against them. On a very basic level, the National Bureau of Economic Research released a study in 2017 that found that quote, right to carry laws are associated with 13 to 15% higher aggregate violent crime rates 10 years after adoption. Further, a 2013 study in the American Journal of Public Health reviewing data from 1981 to 2010 found that for every percentage point that gun ownership increased in a certain area, firearm homicide rates increased by 0.9%. The good guy with a gun stuff is fun to fantasize about. If you're someone like Tim or Alex, but in the real world, it doesn't have the statistical
Starting point is 01:18:21 backing to be something you'd really want to seriously rely on. Plus, imagine a world where this ideology gets so popular that you end up having a shooting and there's not one guy with a good guy with a gun. There's 10 good guys with a gun. It's probably going to be pretty difficult in the fog of that whole thing to know who's a shooter and who's a good guy with a gun. Seems like it would get really chaotic if this was taken to its logical conclusion. Yeah. Anyway, it's dumb. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, that blows my mind. 1% each percentage point equals 0.9%. So it's an almost one to one increase. Well, yes, but also you'd have to factor in that it would be it wouldn't like whatever the previous
Starting point is 01:19:04 like violent crime rate or firearm homicide rate was that would go up by 0.9% of that. Right. Right. Now I understand. So the crime was like 8% that now it's 8.8% or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Now I got you. Yeah. I don't believe it's going up a whole percentage. Right. Right. Right. That would be. Well, that's what I'm saying. Like if it's 8.08%, that's very different from 8.8% increase, that kind of thing, you know. So we talked about this a little bit throughout the show and that is that this idea that Alex is like, why is he so beholden to the police? Right. It's very weird. It's fucked up. And I think in this next clip, he may articulate exactly why. Oh,
Starting point is 01:19:50 this is not an ass-kissing exercise of the police when the police do wrong things. We're all over them. And you see leftist jurisdictions like areas in Canada where they're banning free speech or things in Europe. We're against that. But in America, our police compared to other places are good. And there's a battle over who controls them. And if conservatives abandon the police and don't put in our input, the left with all their bullying and federalization are going to win. So that's why we can't just knee-jerk reaction, just go with the left attack on the police. No, I agree 100%. I think that's a really sincere articulation of what Alex really thinks at this point and explains why his coverage is so much of an ass-kissing exercise for the police. In his
Starting point is 01:20:31 mind, the globalists and the patriots are fighting for control of the police who are, in essence, the paramilitary group that holds the monopoly on the use of state force. At this point, the police are very much on Alex's team side as evidenced by their differing treatment of protesters among other things. Many other things. Many other things. Alex knows that his side can't possibly continue to get away with the shit they get away with if the police stop going very easily on them. And on some level, he thinks he can't be too critical of the police or they'll not support the patriots anymore. They'll succumb to being federalized by the globalists and then it's game over for Alex and his buddies. And then further, I think Alex does have some ideas of appending
Starting point is 01:21:14 collapse and needing the use of force and the armed, essentially civilian army to be basically on their side. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, listen, I think, I think if I wanted to sum it up and I'm sorry I interrupted you, I think he's afraid to criticize the police. No, I think no. And I mean, to sum it up even simpler, his argument is at the end of the day, the police are just a fascist military. So if the left has control of the fascist military, it's going to happen to us. And if we have control of the fascist military, it's going to happen to them. Yeah. Well, sure. But I think that what's underneath why he's acting like he's acting is because he's afraid. Right. Right. He doesn't want it to be that reality. No, no, no. The left
Starting point is 01:22:01 doesn't. He doesn't want the left to have control over whether or not the cops are going to allow him to bomb stuff. That's not good. So yeah, I think that kind of might be an indication of what's going on here, although it's still super weird. Like there's still just so much that's like out of line with really core tenants of Alex's. I know. Well, no, no, no, no. Oh, no, no, no, no. I know. I don't mean like I'm questioning you. I mean, like, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I don't know. Yeah. There seems, there feels like there's, there's something a little bit deeper. And it might just be a weird day for him and being deferential to Tim Inlow. Like that, that honestly could explain a whole lot. Sure. Mixed in with this fear of, of being critical of the police.
Starting point is 01:22:45 I mean, at the same time, weird day to go from your daughter's graduation at kindergarten to immediately. Talk to a mercenary. Yeah. Weird day. Weird day. That's whiplash. Yeah. That's whiplash. So when I'm talking about Alex, like just like these things are contrary to things that are deeply held like core info wars. Shit. Like this is one of them. So we need good training. We need proper equipment and we need more and more drills at these schools to prepare for these kinds of situations. Just like the Roman army did. That's why they were so good. Yeah. It has to be never ending because again, the bad guys always change their tactics. So this like is something that Alex should never be supporting. Never ending mass shooter drills at schools.
Starting point is 01:23:30 This is right in line with like his anti-police state ideology, right? I mean, yeah, totally. That's insane. This is almost coming off like a prank, quite frankly, because this seems so disconnected from what's supposed to be the bigger picture of what Alex is about. For one, he believes these shooter drills traumatized children and are meant to train them to live in a police state where they have to comply with the orders of armed men. Armed shooter drills are meant to prepare the next generation to live in tyranny and to train them to be afraid of guns, which is why the globalists do them. And the drills themselves are usually also the false flags. Right. Exactly. It's the same thing. Yeah. Alex believes that if you run a drill to prepare
Starting point is 01:24:09 for something, you're secretly about to do it yourself. There are countless examples of disaster preparation drills or anti-terrorism drills that Alex has insisted would just cover for the globalist to do the real thing. He should hate the idea of widespread never ending shooter drills if only because he should think that would give the globalists unlimited opportunities to cloak their French fries and a drill would be nonstop fat false flags. French fries. Yeah. Yeah, we got to change. We got to get in line. All right. I'm sorry, Pachanic. Yeah. I don't know what's going on here, but Alex is off his game. It is. It is like when the chips are down for guns, they are willing to sacrifice every other part of America.
Starting point is 01:24:49 Yeah. And I think it's unfortunate because I think there's probably a way to still love guns and not be this. You think it wouldn't be that hard. A lot of people do it. Yeah. I would even say the majority of people who own guns are like, let's not kill people. I'm even gonna go that far. Probably. So anyway, Tim Mandela leaves. Yep. And Alex is, he's got news to get to, but he's not going to. Oh, that's smart. Yeah. Because he's got other things. I got a lot of news to cover in the meantime. K-Dyre set to take over. Always covers the key documents. He doesn't. Stuff the globalists don't want you to know, but here's the bottom line. Newtonian physics show us what the stop
Starting point is 01:25:41 unified field theory. Stop codified by Albert Einstein. Stop. But we don't need to see the numbers. We know that for every action, there's an opposite reaction. What? An opposite and equal reaction. And so the new world order needs to know that. Sure. Sure. They know that. The harder they hit us, the stronger we get if we don't give up. And that's what happened in behind the scenes in the systems pest. But I knew this would happen. But I have a moral duty to not play into their system. Hell, I got a bunch of tricks I could play on them. I know their operation better than they do. I've got the ring of Mordor. Give out one of the ring.
Starting point is 01:26:29 What? But I will not use evil to defeat evil because it will turn into evil. And again, I will only use good against these people. Then why are you keeping the ring? So I got a bunch of stacks of news I've gotten to here and I want to cover them. But I mentioned the coin earlier that's going to sell out in the next six, seven, eight days. My God, since we made this promo video that I forgot to play, we might as well air it. Wow. Now, just wow. I should tell you, I am. I hit a piece of information from you. What's that in between the Tim Inlow interview and that clip that I just played for you was a full segment of Alex promoting that coin. Get the fuck out of here, you son of a bitch.
Starting point is 01:27:12 He talked for like seven minutes about the way they didn't have time to play the clip. So they might as well play it now. I didn't have the time to get to it. And I can't get to the news because I have the ring of Mordor and he's just running out the clock. Like he knows that the having the ring part of the point is that the ring of Mordor will turn you evil if you just, yes. Yeah. Well, I'm aware of that. Oh my God. He's not because he's not a nerd. Oh my God. It's not like that nerd stuff. Everything. Yeah, it's a little frustrating. So yeah, we come to the end of this. I think that this is developing very weirdly. Yeah. I am conflicted a little bit because I do think that there's still an interesting path
Starting point is 01:27:58 that's been going down here. Right. But I worry that I myself am not really enjoying dwelling on this subject matter as much as I am. And I wonder if the experience is similar for the audience. So I don't know if I'm not entirely sure if for the next episode we'll continue down this path or maybe have something to switch it up to sort of mix it up a little bit. Sure. Sure. Sure. I generally speaking, I am all over the place. Yeah. And you ground me with solid factual information. And we do not have as much of that as is usually the case. So I feel like I'm flying solo. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. It's hard. It's hard to it's hard to cling to a whole lot. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see how it feels. And anyway,
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