Knowledge Fight - #69: August 1, 2017

Episode Date: August 2, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about the Aug. 1, 2017 episode of The Alex Jones Show. Topics include: Has Alex Jones been on a vacation in Hawaii for the last week? Did he run into any way-past-their-expiration-date celebrities while he was there? What did Alex find most troubling about the piece about him on Last Week Tonight?

Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We are a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. We do that. Now, we do have a hook. We have like a...

A John Popper-style hook. Yeah, yeah. A John Popper, the guy who keeps doxing people on Twitter. That can't be true. Apparently, the Blues Traveler account has been doxing people. Have you not heard about this? No. The Blues Traveler?

Well, one, of course, I don't follow the Blues Traveler account. I just saw some tweets about this. I think there was a story in Buzzfeed. Well, like the Blues Traveler official account has been like tweeting out satellite images and addresses of this guy's house. Like, just really straight up doxing somebody who was fucking with him. All right. That makes perfect sense. In the context of the world we live in, that is the least weird thing I've ever heard. John Popper used to go on Love Line all the time, too,

and he would always talk about how much he loves guns, and how he always carries guns on him, and he's high all the time. Oh, so John Popper is insane. I did not realize that. There's a decent chance. I don't want him to tweet my address, though, so let's chill. Yeah, but do you know what? Let's chill on this. The hook brings you back. Rub it in, rub it in, rub it in, if you're in Tipton or in Berlin.

And I don't know anything about Alex Jones. Correct. Today we are drinking Seagram's Escapes. Jamaican Me Happy, Dan. You know why these are called escapes? Because that's the name, that's the actual title of the Pina Colada song. Escape. Come with me and escape.

I don't believe you. If you like Pina Coladas. All right. Getting caught in the rain. All right. If you're not into yoga. We have hit two bottoms as far as music is considered already today. I don't have many clips to go over today,

so we've got a vamp. I chose Jamaican Me Happy for two reasons. Well, it's a new month. It's August. One was aspirational. Dan, I want you to be Jamaican Me Happy. All right. And two is representative of, guys, we have hit an actual record.

Sure. For downloads, we have hit all these milestones, and people keep finding us inexplicably. Yeah, it's great. Considering our utter inability to promote in any way. We've had some amazing messages we've got on Facebook and on the email and over Twitter. It's awesome. Most of it very positive and interesting stuff.

A little bit of it awful. A couple of dickholes tweeting at us. Oh yeah. 00:02:36,100 --> 00:02:37,100 No, that's fun. Yeah. I'm liking that. Finally starting to get a little bit of that MAGA stuff coming at us.

Oh, I'm loving it. Yeah. Fuck these dudes. These square assholes. But hey. Also, it turns out these seagrams escapes are children's booze. These are candy. You know what I love about that Pina Colada song?

What's that? I love, first of all, if you're not into yoga and you do like champagne, that's in his personal ad that he sends out in the paper. That's the story of the song, his personal ad. It's not important. All right. The response to the personal ad is like, yes, I do like champagne. It's like, all right, calm down.

Everyone likes champagne. Anyway, enough about Rupert Holmes. Yeah, we need to update that for the OK Cupid world. Yeah, absolutely. But before we do that, because I'm sure we will by the end of the show. If you like certain pics with tigers. Ooh, that's not bad. Yeah.

Speaking of not bad things, ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to give a shout out to two very unique styles of policy wonks. Oh, now I'm blown away. These are already policy wonks. Okay. But these are people who have decided to step it up and donate more. No, that's insane. So we've got to give them a secondary policy wonk status, which is, I don't know, policy

squared one. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. You are now a foreign policy expert. Unfortunately, I don't have a clip of Alex Jones saying that. So this will have to do. I'm a policy wonk.

Thank you, David. And thank you, Luke. You are both now foreign policy experts. You guys are amazing with the intricate policies, uh, covering North Korea. I feel like that's what we have to give you. You know about the intricacies of inter-European country relations. You know about what's going on with Brexit. That'd be fun if it turns out they both support Brexit, in which case it'd be like, I don't,

I don't, okay. Well, still, you can still be an expert. Anyway, it is only appropriate, Jordan, that we are drinking Seagrams Escapes Jamaican Me Happy Island style booze. Are we escaping the present once more? We are not. We are in the present. We needed to check in and see what was going on.

Yeah. And it's also been really heavy as far as news goes. Oh, yeah. What with the, uh, what with the past week. We'll get into all of it. The most insane week in the history of American politics. We'll get into all of it as Alex Jones does not cover any of it. Of course.

But the reason that this booze is appropriate for this drink itself is appropriate is because I've figured out, I didn't realize what was going on. Alex Jones has been in Hawaii for like a week. Okay. I was like, why is, like, why is Owen Schreuer hosting on Friday? What's going on here? That was a smart move on his part. Alex has just been in Hawaii.

Yeah. Yeah. So he's hanging out in Hawaii, drinking probably a lot of these Seagrams chillers, you know, just hanging out on the beach. I would say he probably spikes him with a little bit of extra whiskey. I would go rum. That's a much better. Rum is a way better.

You don't want to put whiskey in a wine cooler. I don't know why not. That's very trashy. Anyway, Alex Jones was in Hawaii. You would know considering your Missouri roots and Hawaii roots. That's true. I'm all over the place. You're correct.

So while he was in Hawaii, yes, Alex Jones ran into some of the biggest celebrities in the world and got an interview with them. This is a celebrity couple. Would you like to guess? No, I think I might have seen this. All right. No guessing then. No guessing.

We're here with Heidi Montag and Spencer Pratt. Yeah. It was about a decade. No, perfect. First game on my broadcast. Fucking perfect. Fine. Getting political and speaking out against globalism back when that wasn't popular.

That can't be real. There was a firestorm. Thousands of news articles. Heidi and Spencer Pratt were all ahead of the game on globalists. They didn't back off. They're making America great again, I guess, proto politics. And then I'm here in Hawaii on a vacation with my family and I run into them. It's amazing.

And Heidi's pregnant. It's very exciting. So it's very fortuitous to run into you guys. Very exciting. It is. Great to see you. It's, I mean, obviously destiny. So here it was destiny for Heidi to meet Alex Jones in Hawaii.

That was destiny. Absolutely. Destiny is bored. Very destiny needs something else to do. And this should highlight, I really think one of Alex, like Alex Jones is such a star fucker in the sense that like Heidi and Spencer are like, Oh, this is exciting. These people know what's up. You're giving credibility to Heidi and fucking Spencer.

Look, look, hey, I get it. She was my third favorite character on the hills, which was a show. Is that where she's, yes, which was a show that starred my fifth favorite character on Laguna Beach, which was a reality TV show version of a TV show I never watched called the OC late nineties were weird. I, that's boy. I was not, I was aware that the hills was a thing. Are you curious about my power ranking of Laguna Beach?

Good God. No. Low is number one. What? Number one is low. Low. Which one is the reality show? The reality show is Laguna Beach and the hills are both reality shows.

Laguna Beach was called Laguna Beach, the real OC. It was the show, the Adam Brody show and whoever else was on that. The OC. It was supposed to be a reality show version of it. It was a disaster. But my favorite character was low. She's the number one. She's the best.

She seemed like a really great friend, never gotten to too much trouble. Love her. Number two is a guy named Trey who, I instantly hate Trey. He made hats. He made hats and sold them and did fashion shows and gave all the money to charity. He seemed like a really cool dude. God damn it. Now I'm back in on Trey.

Yeah. Couldn't he have changed his name? Yeah. It was the late 90s. Look, give him a pass. And he hasn't gotten in any trouble since the show was on. Number three, there's this guy named Polster, right? He was not a main character on the show at all.

But every time, every time they had a Chiron under his name, it said something enthusiast. So like when he was helping Trey with the hat thing, it was like hat enthusiast. Great. He's an enthusiastic guy. Yeah. Number four, I don't know. Maybe Lauren was my fourth favorite. Who knows?

Anyway, be that as it may. The Hills sucked and I liked Whitney and Audrina way more than Lauren or, well, yeah, Lauren and God damn Heidi. She was terrible. She was a shit character. Anyway, Dan knows a lot about the Hills. I spent a lot of time. I don't know anything.

I spent a lot of time watching those shows when I was younger. I can tell. Yeah. So Heidi was a reality star. Yes. She was friends with Lauren on the Hills. They became friends when Lauren moved from the OC to the Hills and got a job working for a fashion magazine.

And so she, I think she like lived next door to Heidi. You just made me a Trump supporter. Whatever accelerates the downfall of a country that could create Spencer and Heidi. So they were friends and then she started dating Spencer and their friendship fell apart and Heidi chose Spencer over Lauren. It was a big betrayal. That's a lot of drama. But beyond that, they were just shitheads and I don't, I know that reality show is manipulative

in terms of, in terms of their editing and stuff like that. But I think this interview is going to prove with a beyond the shadow of a doubt. Even beyond that, you can just tell from their behavior in real life after the show how consistent it is with how they were portrayed on the show and stuff like, you're, you're, you could complain about editing if you want. And I'm sure they did some tricks, but that's also you. Yeah. Be that as it may, Heidi and Spencer are in fucking Hawaii and Alex Jones is thrilled

to see them cause they are proto-maga. Did they talk about the globalists on the Hills? No. Cause that would have been, see now I want to go back. We're doing a second investigation. We want to find out when Alex Jones went all in on Trump and we want to find out whether or not Heidi was way into the globalist. Well, Heidi wasn't, I know that, but she does spin it now on this interview with Alex that

like because we were against globalism and because we were Christian conservatives, they edited me and turned me into a different character and wrote me off the show. Cause if you don't play ball with the globalists, they're going to take you out. Yeah. All right, now I'm in. Let's hear this shit. Okay. Get to it.

I want to find out what it is. I also did a meteor hit Hawaii while they were there. Unfortunately not. All right. So there is no justice in the universe. I would like to say to the sound on this is a little bit eh, but that's just cause Alex refuses to put the mic close to Heidi's face in his standard misogynistic approach to life. He's pretty good with giving Spencer the mic, but Heidi, she's too pregnant for me to get

close to. It's, it's great to see you and a lot has changed in 10 years, not only with us, but the world. So it's great to see you in person. Yeah. Last time we saw you, we were, you know, super hated and now we're pretty irrelevant and not the most relevant, hated person that we know. And I was like, you took our game and I was a little sad.

I was like, man, now he's super famous and everyone cares about what he's doing and nobody cares about Spidey anymore. So we need our, we need our chiefs back here. He just, he did what? I mean, to get serious, you guys did get in trouble because the big crime for reality TV stars and you guys were out there at the top is to become political. It's come out their secret societies in LA with thousands of movie stars in them. Yeah.

They're just patriots like Kurt Russell said, Hey, I just like George Washington, the second amendment free market. I don't want to live in North Korea. You know, second amendment, you know, rich people have bodyguards. Why can't the average person have a gun? They even came after him for that or that makes Bruce Willis, who I know is a listener for over a decade. And he just came out and said, both parties are controlled.

I am boycotting. Ocean's 12 now. So you have to be a mega star like Clint Eastwood to even be able to be conservative in Hollywood. Anybody else trying to break through politically, they gang up on and they destroy. But it's, it's, you know, it's good to be hated by the establishment. The problem is, if you're in reality TV, what are those stars? Break down what happened as soon as you came on the show. So we were chanting death to the new world order about 10 years ago after watching all

your documentaries. And then about a week later, we are no longer on television. Where were you chanting? I haven't had a consistent TV gig since then. So if the new world order is watching, you know, we still will not accept chips, but you know, we will take a gig in the established media because we have a baby and we have some bills to pay. So, you know, new world order were available.

I never thought I would say this. We'll take a check. Fake laugh. Oh yeah. But no, for real. So fake. Be careful what you say. So at the end there, Spencer is basically saying, we will play ball to him by the name

that he gave himself. He didn't give himself that. That's what the tabloids called them. Spidey, Spencer and Heidi. Oh, I thought he was calling himself Spidey. No, no. Like, like Spiderman. Sorry.

This is the lack of awareness on your part. I've explained that. That's on me. Uh, but he's saying we'll play ball. Right. We'll play ball. I just want to check. And Alex has to jump in there to do that horrendous fake laugh in order to make it seem like

he's joking. They were joking. He says it another time later. Yeah, of course. Basically begging for, hey, come on, we can do something. And how I also know he's not joking. He's done, they've done so many sad reality shows since the hills. They've done a ton.

They were on at least two seasons of Big Brother. All right. That makes us all over the place. It's a, it's a mess. They're a disaster. Right. Well, he's blackballed from Hollywood because of his lack of talent, Christian conservative beliefs, Christian conservative beliefs.

I would argue it's lack of talent. I, well, judging by that interview, he is a font of charisma. They aren't like, they aren't actors really. And they're not convincing even when they're playing versions of themselves and they were playing themselves right there. And I hardly believed anything. That's what I'm saying. They're not convincing sitting on a beach with Alex Jones.

Yeah. But I would like to tell you that they are, they, they're not just about acting. It's not like that's all they do. Also Spencer was trying to launch Heidi's singing career. Oh, now there we go. A little while back. She had a album that included this song. I hate you, Dan.

You are not Jamaican me happy right now. The vocals are low in the mix. It's like, you know, it's like nirvana except for, I mean, right what you know. This is auto tuned as fuck. Yeah. It's, it's atrocious. But wait till you get to the chorus. I don't want to get to the chorus.

The chorus is pretty offensive. Are we really doing this? Oh, oh, we're doing. What have we become? Thank you guys so much for listening and now we will punish you with that. All right. Sorry. I wanted to get to the chorus because it's like play the chorus, I'm just going to talk

shit over it. They say I'm super. Oh, I do. It just happened. Oh, that was the chorus. Yeah. They say I'm superficial. They say I'm a bitch because I'm sexy.

I'm famous and I'm rich. It's like, I don't think she's going to get it. I don't think she can pull that one off and I don't think so. That was the chorus. Yeah. Generally you have to have some sort of a change in the, the chord structure. So yeah. The progression, something along those lines and I don't, I don't want to be like just

piling on Heidi and Spencer. I think they're total fame whore assholes and have been for the better part of my adult life. Yeah. I've been aware of them as desperate mosquitoes, basically just trying to suck any blood out of fame that they possibly can. And they're broke. And Spencer was even saying that in, when he was talking to Alex, he was saying we used

to be the most hated. Now I'm jealous of you getting all the attention. You took our game. Right. I need attention. That's who he's been the entirety of my experience with him. So I love that Alex is like so desperate for some sort of celebrity that this is acceptable. Do you think Alex, like Alex knew who they were?

Admittedly, they say they knew who Alex is. I think, I think, do you think they recognized Alex or Alex told them who Alex was? No, I think they probably got into his documentaries at some point. I bet, I bet that they watched like, you know, nine 11 road to tyranny or loose change or the Obama deception. I bet they watched something that he's done. Or the born identity. Look, they're idle.

They're idle fake celebrities. They have nothing to do. They don't have jobs. That's true. That is true. They don't have fucking jobs and they somehow have enough money to be in Hawaii. Also blues traveler just dox them. Send out a picture of their bungalow in Hawaii.

Also by the way, I mean, this is great looking Hawaii. Like it doesn't look like there's much around. It's sort of secluded. Looks like the really expensive type of place to resort in Hawaii right on the beach. Spencer and Heidi are well known for budgeting appropriately. I do. I don't know where their money is coming from, but it's not important. Do you know that they do like a club appearances?

Yeah. You know that that's how reality stars wind up making a lot of money. They'll just show up at a club for an hour and make like 10 grand. Yeah. It's nuts. Yep. Can we do that? I thought about it like not in terms of like, I was considering it, but I thought about

the logistics of it. Right. And I think it would be miserable. Oh, of course. Especially for us. Yeah. I mean, you'd have so many people expecting something of you when I would love if we went into a club with some sort of Smirnoff kind of promotion going on, or perhaps a Jamaican

Me Happy and Sea Grumps sponsor us to play her up. Yeah. Yeah. And then, you know, we both do 10 minutes and we get out of there. I know. You know how a lot of clubs like the big kind where you dance and everybody's taking X, that's 90s terminology. Right, right.

I know it's M-D-A-M-A now. Or E. Or E, bros. I learned about that was the E in the dare program, I believe. Education. I don't think we're supposed to be in those clubs, Dan. No, we're not. I don't think we'd be invited.

I think the last time I went to some like dance dance club was in Missouri. It was a place called generic. And they played dance dance revolution the whole time. I did not, but I did almost get into a fight with the DJ because I kept telling him to turn it down. Of course you do. Of course you do. It was like a pop dance club fucking course you did.

I told him to turn it down and I told him, could you play something decent, please? And then he pulled up Heidi's album and was like, I'm too poppish of, yeah, I'm the worst. I don't belong in any of those fun places, but anyway, they do go on to say that they were worried that they were going to get killed, like how celebrities get killed. Of course. Of course. The Illuminati globalists kill celebrities all the time when they are no longer worthwhile.

I don't care to air that because I'm not here to talk about Spencer's delusion. This is about Alex Jones. So in this next clip, Spencer asks Alex, what's the deal with them Russians? Okay. And here we go with Alex. This is an interesting answer on a beach. What's the deal with the Russians? Fill me in.

Where do they, is this all, well, 100% take on this whole Russian thing. If you go to DC or New York, there are Russians and Chinese and people from India and people from Israel, people from the UK, people from France, the EU, people from the Vatican and people from Saudi Arabia. There are people and lobbyists crawling out of the walls. And so Russians are constantly throwing sex ops at you, you know, hot blondes, honey traps. They're constantly, but they're like the subgroup.

The Russians about six or seven years ago cut back on that and mainly, you know, just use information, you know, TV stuff, but they're secondary players reorganizing their country. The Communist Chinese have infiltrated every major company, defense company, they're transferring everything back. They're in all our computer systems. Most are chips getting made there with backdoors. We put backdoors in them. It's a total cyber infiltration, AI system war, sort of AI war with China.

China's got massive acceleration war with genetic engineering, probably even way ahead of what we got. It's totally insane. Spencer, how do you feel about all this? You know, just, I mean, they had 20 years ago, cows that create human milk, they sell it on the market in China. Not true. I mean, here it's not even in the news.

What is he telling? So Russia has fast missiles and a lot of nukes. I mean, they are basically an old world country. It's basically third world in many areas. And they're trying to reorganize. They're seen as weak. So the globalists are trying to overthrow it. They want to put kind of a Hollywood social engineering thing to break the Russian will

to get rid of their Christian roots because it's not compatible with globalism. So Russia's crime is it got away from the very globalists that run our country, the very Bolshevik corporate system. Trump and their people are being illegally surveilled massively by Obama. And so there's some basic Russian contacts. Wait, still? Sessions. That was his job.

Why is Obama still... So they have the intercepts. They can say, yeah, you met a couple Russians here and there when that's totally normal and it's what senators do. And then Obama is in the background just walking by. And then Obama is in the background just walking by. Met to get dirt on Hillary. They were getting dirt on Trump.

So that's what you do in opposition research. So they take normal behavior and blow it up like it's this huge, you know, horrible thing, a mountain out of a molehill. That's boring the shit out of me. Crimes. Crimes are can be both molehills and mountains. That's absolutely true. But you know what is a great crime that Alex has just committed?

He made a Hawaiian vacation boring as shit. Like if you're watching the video too of this, Heidi and Spencer are not entertained by this. Of course not. Because he's just rambling on for fucking ever. Right. About he's like going into being on the show mode. Daylight. What?

Is it daylight out? I would say, yeah, it's probably... What are we talking? It's probably in the magic hour. Okay. I don't know. So Alex is three quarters in the bag. He might be a little drunk.

But be that as it may, this next clip I think is really telling. And halfway through it, you'll... What? It's a really telling clip within the interview of Spidey. Yeah, no, I think it is. Because Alex Jones is most comfortable around people he wants to impress. Okay. And so he lets down some of his guard that he should have up.

Right. In fact, drunk in why after a couple of these tiki drinks, that might be contributing to it. But he asks Heidi and Spencer how real are reality shows? Like what is the... What's the most real reality show? And then after that, Spencer asks him a question and Alex Jones accidentally shows too many of his cards.

Okay. How many other reality shows from folks you talked to and what you've experienced are like 100% real and what would those shows be versus half real versus totally staged? I would say the only reality show that's 100% real is cops. Yeah. It's a hard... Everything is for media. It's on media.

It's for entertainment. So at the end of the day, there's always going to be editing and producing. Well, I can tell you this. When I throw a fit every once in a while and stop off the stage or those of it's real. In fact, let's just... Let's get that again. Let's get that. Here, let's ask the crew.

Is it real? So we'll get back to this in a second. But Spencer was saying, let's get this. He has pulled out his phone and he is now doing like a video. He's making a video of himself and Alex. Generally, I get very angry when people are like, has technology made us sadder? But yeah, no, I think we should get rid of technology. So there's a info wars camera taping the entire scene and Spencer has his phone out recording

him and Alex being like, yeah, come on, give me one of these outbursts. Wait, they... It's not fake, huh? Is somebody calling the shots here? No one's calling the shots. That's buckling. There's no telecom because there's nothing. It's real life happening as it happens.

Super real life. That's what funny people think. They're like, somebody tell me what to do. I wish I was. I wish I was. So those viral clips of you getting all mad yelling, you can't just turn that on for a shot because I would love to get one of those clips. Oh, I mean, I could turn it on, but I feel that way.

So I kind of let the dog off the leash. Is there some like a trigger line that I say that gets you worked up? Yeah, like tyranny. People trying to dominate and take control of our lives. Yeah, they are. So can we get a clip? Just a little outburst. I'm in a good mood right now.

The thing is, the thing is I'm on air for hours and I start thinking about Hillary ruling over my family, that slug murdering piece of crap who thinks we're all her slave better than us. No, she's going to fail. I just got to think about what a piece of crap she is and Bill Clinton and all the rest of them. I had a weird dream last night that like Bill Clinton was at public and Paula Jones was there on stage and ran over like gongs, like grabbing on her.

I just remember that just now. She had nightmares about the Clintons. That's good to say. I am glad I don't have those dreams. I mean, that's such a display of how fake his anger is. That is undeniable proof that he just fakes it. I don't think that was undeniable. I thought that was fake.

It is. And it sounds exactly like a lot of times he has. It does not sound exactly like, well, one, you would know better than me. He's tired. He's on day five or six of drinking in Hawaii. He's not. He's not in the same. I think he gave it a shot.

Yeah. And it didn't go so well and then revealed that he dreams about the Clintons, which I thought was similar. I thought that was the big reveal that you had right there because that creeps me out. Oh, it's pretty creepy. But that's similar to his show too. Those weird flights of fancy that end up happening where he's like, why did I say that on air? Like that sort of shit.

But if you're watching the video of this, too, he ramps into like, I hate the Clintons You can see him just like putting it on. It's incredibly fake. I think he tried, but he couldn't do it. It was a very short outburst. If he was, you know why I think that is, I think it's because he got the sense that Spencer was using him. He was trying to get his own viral clip or whatever.

But then again, why would Alex really care? They would just give him more attention too. I don't know. It's a mess, but I wish Alex would realize how many of his guests are trying to use him. It's incredibly bizarre to think like, you know, you start to take notice of it. You start to realize all of these people are kind of just like Spencer. In this case is absolutely just one of those fish who clean algae off a bigger fish. Like he's just trying to get a meal.

Yeah. It's a, it's a mess. Anyway. Yeah. What is it? What is he like? Does he think that Alex is going to help him or just, or just getting the attention is what he really, he's just an attention whore.

He's a big part of it. Also the appearance of Alex's giant audience that he can maybe become relevant with, especially with Alex vouching for him as like a pre it being cool to talk about the globalist. Yeah. A hip guy. He was woke before woke was woke. Right. Right.

No, there's a lot of a, there's a lot of old white men who have a military service in their background who love Spencer. Apparently now. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's certain. But because they thought he was a shithead based on the fact that he's been a public shithead for over a decade.

No, of course. Uh, but now because Alex Jones has explained it to them, no, everyone presented them as being shitheads because they were Christian conservatives and that is not tolerable to the globalists. So they had to attack their character in public as opposed to Spencer having his own advice column in like stuff magazine or whatever we said, I don't remember if it was stuff, why do you know so much about these people? I had a dark period in my early twenties.

There we go. It was a mess. Anyway, I was having dreams about Hillary Clinton. Oh, tentacles on Paula Jones. Alex Jones has absolutely had a sex dream about Hillary Clinton. Undoubtedly. There's no doubt in my mind. Undoubtedly.

Yeah. So that's about it for what we're going to talk about. I bet she was very tender or to assume so. Yeah. Uh, that's, that's it for Heidi and Spencer interview. It's a half hour. If you want to, if you want to watch the rest of it, it's really boring, but they, but Spencer does say some really stupid shit.

So there's that. If you want to enjoy that. Also, just the like the rampant, uh, victim, uh, self-victim status giving, that makes sense. Oh yeah. The three of them together will certainly all believe that they are the only victims. It's an intense triangle of straight white people who feel real bad for their lot in life.

Right. Not realizing that maybe some of their actions led them to where they are, uh, which is in Hawaii on a secluded beach as we sit in an apartment in Chicago. Yeah. Ah, shit. Yeah. Right. A lot of our choices may not have been as good as theirs.

Yeah. Anyway, uh, we're now go to August 1st, 2017, the, uh, Tuesday episode, Alex has returned from Hawaii. He was, uh, he was there up until then. He gets back into studio and what a world is waiting for him when he returns from vacation. Yeah. Let's count off some of the things that have happened since he went on vacation. How long has he been gone for?

He was gone for most of scaramucci's tender, uh, tenure scaramucci came and left before Alex did. Well, Alex was around when he got in cause he was, he'd talk, he was talking about how great it was going to be. Right. Right. Um, okay. So we got scaramucci getting out.

I previous is previous was gone. He was gone when previous left. Okay. That's right. I remember that. Yeah. Um, Trump admitted that, uh, he influenced Donald Trump Jr. statement, right? Uh, which again, a crime, how many crimes before we get enough crimes?

You need to get bingo. We got, yeah. Yeah. You have to get five in a row. Oh, that's the problem. Cause these crimes are disconnected on the board. Yeah. That's true.

Yeah. You have like the corners and shit. We're not playing blackout here. No, no, no, no. This is straight bingo. Unfortunately, no free space just to make it even harder. Well currently he is living in a free space. Yeah.

Uh, okay. So we got that. Right. That's crime. Um, we've got, uh, what else? Well, that's right. Donald Trump invented Seth rich. Uh, we'll get back to that.

Yeah. So, uh, I thought Priebus, Spicer and scaramucci all gone in the time that he was on vacation. Oh, all of them? I know. I thought Priebus was still, uh, I thought Priebus was gone before he left. No, no, no. That was on Friday. Oh, that's right.

Alex was gone from like Wednesday or something. Okay. So, so they're all gone. Yep. All gone. Um, John Oliver has, uh, done his segment on last week tonight. Yeah. Uh, Alex comes back to a world where he doesn't know what to respond to.

And I think he's really depressed because his voice does not sound good. Uh-huh. Like not like a gravelly voice, but like he just, he can't get much enthusiasm for stuff that this should be when you shine, baby. Yeah. Yeah. This is like you, Alex. You're under attack.

Yeah. But you come back from a vacation. You have that little, no, no, no, I totally get where he's coming from. I don't. Cause you're in a war. This is an info war. All right. Alex presented it as such and you can't have fucking, uh, lingering hangover from vacation

getting in your way. You have so much to attend to right now. Unfair. Unfair, Dan. You are a propagandist with the most difficult job in the world and that is cover up for Donald Trump's attempted coverups. Everything he does keeps blowing up in his face. Donald Trump, that is.

Yeah. Alex Jones' job is to spin it positive. Meanwhile, a HBO personality who you've already attacked and the hate does it, uh, in your perceptions, a hit piece on you, you come back to that world. One of the most respected late nights, yeah, of any kind. Like he's the guy that. Good. Yeah.

Yeah. Exactly. He's got a great research staff. Yeah. But you come back. They could have called us so they're not that great, but they're still a good research. They did a good job. They did.

So, what are your feelings about how they painted him as so much of a snake oil salesman? Yeah. It didn't get in. I mean, you can't do it in a 20 minute fucking TV piece. Get into all the details. Oh, you can't. No. Is that why our podcast is not one episode long?

Jesus. It shows us so long. Um, what my point is, is that if you are in that situation and you want your audience to really believe that you think of it as a war, you can't come back and half step on the first day. Yeah. You need to come swinging. And Alex is just kind of like, but he does have some interesting narratives and I've

got a few clips of stuff to go over. He had a stacked deck of all of his guests that he has on every day, basically, right? Roger Stone, the good doctor, Dr. Feelgood himself, Jerome Corsi. Perfect. I actually finally saw a picture of him because I watched that Alex Jones piece and absolutely. I believe everything he says now, what, that his shirt's too tight. True. What else you got?

His pills cure stuff. Of course. Yeah. Bone broth. Sure. Oh, wait, you saw a picture of Dr. Corsi. Yeah. No, you saw.

Oh, no, no, no, I saw a picture of Dr. Group. That's right. Dr. Group is the hippie. Dr. Jerome Corsi is the propagandist right who heads the DC office still, still haven't seen Corsi. No, his shirt's too tight. I mean, he looks unhealthy, but also we got guest appearance by Steve Pachennick. He comes in.

Right. I'll just, I mean, I can give you. So we got our rotating cast of characters all picking up the slack for a little bit of a hungover. Alex Jones. Well, Corsi and Roger Stone are basically on every day, at least Roger Stone is pretty much on every day. Okay.

Pachennick is on once a week or so. It's a very standard rotation of, of guests. It's kind of sad. Like you would think that if you had, you know, 40 million, 50 million people watching a week, you could get better, better guests. You could get people who actually have credibility, who have credentials, who have a track record of not being race baiters. Right.

You have a track record of people who haven't written fraudulent books about presidential candidates. People who haven't defended crimes by saying, I did those crimes. Yeah. People who haven't fed the birther shit. People like Steve Pachennick or unlike him, who believe that Sandy Hook actually happened. Right. People who haven't pushed the Seth Rich story, which we now know to be wholly constructed

out of a funny, you should bring that up. Oh, here we go. Partying with Imran Awan on the night of his murder. Trap confidant claims link between NC staffer death and disgrace Washerman Schultz aid. So wait, wait, wait. So we have, so the, the aid for Debbie Washerman Schultz, who was just fired for doing that stuff. They're tying her with Seth Rich.

No, no, no. This is a different aid. This is one of the Awan brothers. Okay. Are you aware of this conspiracy narrative? Never heard this one before. I want in. This is going to be tough.

So there couldn't be tough. There were these three Pakistani born IT experts who were brothers, the Awan brothers and they wait. What? What? She had working for her and other democratic three IT specialist brothers. Well, I don't think all of them worked for her, but they were all in like congressional offices doing IT stuff, TV show now, TV show now.

I don't know if we're going to be able to get the rights from them because what are you talking about? It's called three IT. God damn it. Dan, this rights itself, their brothers, their, look, they're, they're trying to get through America, which is a different culture. So we got that. Fish out of water.

They're IT people. So we got all those kind of awkward interactions going there. Big bang theory suck my balls because three IT is coming for you. So they, and also in the show, it's revealed they killed Seth Rich. The long and short of it is there's a lot of rumors about stuff and I, from what I can tell there is a chance that they were doing some illegal stuff because, but at this point I can't find good reporting on anything. Everything leads back to like daily caller articles or a zero hedge.

And then you try and track down where they're getting stuff from and a lot of it does come back to rumors. I can't find anything really concrete on it. But Alex Jones with the help of Roger Stone has now completely moved the narrative of the Seth Rich stuff. He is now trying to tie it to this other conspiracy of these Pakistani IT experts who they claim we're working with the Muslim brotherhood and they were taking all of this information off of the DNC servers and confidential information and funneling it back overseas.

So they were up to some of that shit, some espionage stuff. And we're being aided and covered up by Debbie Wasserman Schultz and maybe Seth Rich knew something about it. So they set him up and murdered him. All right. This is, this has NCIS written all over it. Right. But what it doesn't have is any truth written all over it.

Neither does NCIS. Yeah. So the reason that they're doing this, seriously, why would they hire that, uh, that hacker? Come on. I don't know. Business casual, at least. All right. So the, Alex is telling you about this story and it's a Paul Joseph Watson article.

And the source on it is Roger Stone. Yeah. So it's all just in house, but they say Trump insider says, uh, Roger Stone is a Trump is the insider. They're quoting on it. Yeah. And Roger Stone comes on the show to, uh, lend credibility to the claims that he's making through it info wars.com.

It's just a crazy cycle of nonsense. That's a fantastic circle, jerk. They got going. Yeah, absolutely. So I'm going to do this because the news just came out that Rod Wheeler, the guy who was the private eye that was hired by a rich Republican donor, uh, with ties to Trump, uh, was, I mean, it came out when the fucking thing broke. Yeah.

Like months ago, it came out that he said, they told me what to say. I didn't, I didn't, I didn't know any of that stuff. Do you, it was that now he's suing. Have you seen the screenshot of that text message, uh, which one, the, the one that they're using to kind of corroborate that evidence of, um, somebody, uh, texting Wheeler, like Trump saw the story and he's really happy with it. Like that kind of thing. I did not see that.

Okay. I'm just, I'm just not sure if it's real. I don't trust anything. Sure. And let's be clear about this. Rod Wheeler has already discredited himself with his behavior in terms of saying the things on Fox news that, uh, they told him to say, he's shown himself to be a public liar. So the idea that now he's saying that Trump was involved with it and stuff like that,

you have to take a step back and be like, I'm not sure if we can trust you. We want to believe that, but you've already shown yourself to be a liar. You may be a private liar as well. Right. And now the only reason that I'm inclined to believe it is private liar is also a character on three IT and a great hauling out song. The only reason I'm inclined to believe it is that it is a big difference, uh, between saying something untrue on Fox news, which isn't illegal, that's very legal and making

an erroneous law suit, especially against the president. Like that's very illegal if you're just making fraudulent claims against them. So that's possible. And then it came out today that Sean Spicer released a statement that they did have a meeting that, uh, the donor, I can't remember his name, rich, rich white dude, rich white dude who was behind the whole thing. Do they even have names? I feel like they don't have names.

I feel like they're just called rich white dude. Yeah. Yeah. So it does look like at very least there was a concerted effort behind the scenes to push this as a story. Yeah. And now here is why I believe it's quite literally a conspiracy. Yeah.

Yeah. And here's why I believe that this is incredibly necessary. This has to be defended at all costs by Alex, by his entire operation. If it's shown to be not true. If all of their things fall apart and they can't keep moving the ball to different places, like this Awan brother's connection to the, to the case. Yeah. Uh, and by the way, that whole thing about him partying with the Awan brother that

night, that's just a rumor. There's no backup of that. That's just hearsay. Of course. Uh, there's nothing to pin that down. But the reason they have to do stuff like that is if it's shown to not be true, everything falls apart. Cause that is what they're hinging the Russia didn't do it narrative on.

That's what they're, they've already made it clear that they think that Seth Rich was the one who gave the emails to WikiLeaks. Okay. So if they don't have that piece in their fake narrative, then. Well, it was goose for 2.0. It was Russia. Yeah, at least your story is wrong. Your version is absolutely wrong.

So they, it's very essential to them. And now here's the other part that's really fucked up. You start to look at who are the people who have vociferously defended the Seth Rich was murdered by the DNC storyline. Well, your top build guy is Sean motherfucking Hannity. You got Sean Hannity. Yep. Uh, you have Alex Jones and the entire info war.

You have Mike Cernovich. You have Cassandra Fairbanks. You have, uh, Jack Pasobiec. You have Julian Assange. Oh, Julian Assange has repeatedly insinuated that Seth Rich was his source, which is not true. It's absolutely not true, but all of these people are connected in a propaganda web and the fact that they're all pushing this narrative will be a huge

problem if it falls because it's so not true. Yeah, you understand what I'm saying? I think, I think that, okay, I think that this is one area where the right wing media is entirely exposed. Yeah, but we all know it's not true. It's obviously not true. Regardless of whether or not you prove something is true, doesn't mean that it's going to change their, their lie narrative.

Right. Right. But I mean, they won't be able to say it as publicly, but the people who want to, but like people, you're not, you're not understanding. I'm not, I'm not understanding. Maybe I didn't clarify it. Yeah. Okay.

So I don't believe these folks are exposed on any level since they don't live in reality. Trump and the White House are implicated in creating a fraud, uh, uh, diversion with the Seth Rich stuff. Yeah. Who is involved with the White House? Roger Stone. Who does Roger Stone have ties to?

Jack Pasobiak. All of these other right wing dickholes, Julian Assange, it becomes clear that there's a network that is sharing information with each other and pushing the same narratives. Yeah. They're clearly a propaganda operation with these tendrils. And I mean, the Russian embassy tweeted out stuff about Seth Rich. The fucking RT and Sputnik did.

It makes it very clear that it is Russia and that these people are on the same fucking team. Yeah, that's true. It makes it clear that what, what, what the reason for it is, who knows, the allegiances are there. Yeah. They're pushing the same narrative against all odds. So whether or not they're right.

So that's, that's, I think to answer your other question about it being proven false, that's not what's important. What's important is the fact that this story came out and they're going to be looking into Trump being implicated in this and having an active role in the campaign brings him way too close to the sphere of this stuff. And so in order to protect him and protect this MAGA operation that they have going, all this bullshit, well, no, they don't have to, but in order for them to, in order for them to make sure no one has to go down, like Roger Stone

doesn't have to go to prison for this or anything like that. What they have to do is they have to create a new story in order to be like, this is fake. This, this whole lawsuit is bogus and they're only doing it because they knew we were going to release this news that he was hanging out with the Awan brother. Okay. All right. You, you changed the narrative entirely to your indoctrinated audience.

And then you don't have to deal with the fallout that everyone else is experiencing. That is, holy shit, these Craven motherfuckers are utilizing some dude's murder in order to take the heat off of what they clearly did. If that makes sense. Wow. What are we, do we, at what point do we just get to go like do over? Like, like one, Trump should be in jail by all, by all of the crime committing you can do, Trump has done all of them.

So, so we're way past that. Yeah. Now we're just trying to get them out, right? How like, I can't, I can't really process the massive levels of like the only way that I can really get to the GOP, not being able to do anything about this, not being able to actually unite long enough to go, not only has he committed all these crimes, but we're divorcing ourselves from that. So the only possible explanation is that they know their constituents no

longer believe in reality. That's possible, or that it doesn't matter. Yeah. That has to be the only, the only thing that I can think of is that if they succumb to the truth, then they will be hated by their lie swallowing audience. Well, I mean, they're like, you can't go back from their shit. I mean, polls have shown that there are at least like 30 something percent of people who still don't get it.

Oh, well, not just that, but like 50% of Republicans still don't think climate change is real. Like all of that shit. Yeah. But, but that's, that's not the point. The point is there's no going back from their Fox Newsification. They can't go back. No, it has to be an entire generation of Republicans before they can get past

the Fox News world that they've created. Yeah. I mean, the real heroes that we need in the world right now are like saying rational moderate Republicans. They're not heroes by no stretch. No, but they could help a lot. Well, I mean, they will be, well, the crazy thing is they'll be portrayed as heroes like the same way McCain was.

And how about misogyny for that one? You know, that whole thing. That's nonsense. But they will be betrayed as heroes. They, they have to have seen that, right? They have to have seen that. McCain is being getting a lot of accolades for his bullshit. And Murkowski too.

Yeah. But be that as it may. Not as much as. Not, not as much as she deserves, but be that as it may. I don't know. Or none of them deserve. That's a complicated thing. Yeah, let's burn it all down.

Yeah, let's do that. Yeah. Um, look, I don't, I don't know what the answer is. I don't know how we get back to normal or anything like that. I don't think it's possible, probably. Well, I think it's bomb North Korea. Obviously that's how we get back to normal. It's like, uh, it's like an underwater cave.

Sometimes you have to go down to get back up. You can't go, you can't push, you can't push up because then you're going to drown. You got to go down further. Yeah. So you got to bomb North Korea. Yeah. We got to suspend the constitution.

That's the great way to go. Commit martial law. Perfect. Uh, put more shit in the water. I'm going to go with military coup would also be nice too. Sure. Why not? Yeah.

Let's throw that one in the United States and do a hunt. Oh, absolutely. That'd be fun. So Alex is out and then elect Erdogan, Secretary of State, while at the same time being president of Turkey. Love it. I can't, I can't. No conflict of interest there.

No, none, not perfect. I mean, about as much as we have now. It's not far off. So this, uh, Seth Rich, uh, shit is pretty shameful, but I do want to say I withhold judgment on the Awan brothers stuff just because all the information I can find on it is so speculative and, uh, I don't know, I don't have any judging by who it's coming from. It is right.

I, I put it at 95% most likely. I can't find enough, uh, information to discredit it is what I'm saying. Yeah. Uh, and, uh, I, I am certainly not in the boat of saying that, uh, there isn't corruption in the democratic party too. Oh, so, you know, someone fucking around and maybe like stealing shit. Yeah. Well, within the possibility.

Yeah. The idea that this is some like big, uh, connection and that Seth Rich was partying with him and set up the murder that I don't believe at all. But, you know, all that other stuff. Well, anyway, I like it. Anyway, uh, Alex Jones, uh, it has to grapple with the news of scaramucci going down. Uh, yeah.

What's his angle on that? And he does so in this little, uh, clip. And I believe, uh, this is actually him saying a quote from Roger Stone. Uh, I accidentally cut out the beginning where he said Roger says this. So I don't think scaramucci is going to survive these tirades with these reporters. And of course, now we know that he was baited by fake emails spoofing reporters emails to manipulate him into that. Isn't the timeline on that backwards?

A little bit. Yeah. The, uh, the prankster, the email prankster, uh, those emails were after. Yeah. Or it was actually it was after rights had been fired. Well, it would have to be after the New Yorker story. Yeah. Yeah.

Uh, but he also has it wrong. This guy, he pranked a bunch of administration officials, not by posing as a reporter, but by posing as other officials. Yeah. And most of them gave him information willingly. Immediately. Yeah. Like the one guy gave him his email address, his personal email address and

shit, all right. The, this is, there's no protocol. We are by the grace of Bob. We are saved by their utter and all consuming incompetence. Yeah. This is the dumbest group of people that has ever run anything ever. Totally. Totally.

I mean, I like, at least the Borges were conniving. Like they knew how to get what they wanted. This is not sure they threw away all of, uh, the Catholic religion and splintered off into Protestantism. Yeah. But come on. At least they knew what they were fucking doing on a day to day. I, uh, I, I dove into an accidental rabbit hole last night, uh, cause I,

I saw some tweets that were arguing that there are a lot of rabbits in Chicago. There are. They're just outside these apartments. Yeah. Just nibbling on grass right outside bunch of little holes. Uh, I fell into one of those holes cause I saw a tweet that was talking about how Al Sadir, uh, the, uh, head of Iraq or the, uh, cleric from Iraq, the, uh, Shia cleric, cleric, uh, he went to, uh, Saudi

Arabia and met with the crown prince. I believe he was the crown prince, uh, that's an interesting choice. Yeah. And, uh, so this tweet I was reading was making the argument that Trump facilitated this because he's a genius. And meanwhile he doesn't want you to know these negotiations are going on. So he creates all this chaos in order to distract you from the fact that, uh, blah, blah, blah.

Uh, it's what? Yeah. So I was like, is there any credibility to this? And so I looked, I looked into it and no, I mean, it is, it is rare. It's been like a decade since, uh, stop. Trump does not know the difference between Sunni and Shia. No.

So we're done. No, that's over. Right. That entire argument is over. Right. But he could still, you could still be a genius by being like, Hey, why don't you tell me what you want to happen? I, you could, you could know nothing about this, like the entire conflict and

just be like, what would you like me to enforce both sides? Let's agree on it now. What do you want? Let's do it. Do you mean that's the, uh, Kushner, Israel, Palestine talks right there? I imagine. What do you guys want? That's like, well, you both can't have it.

That's weak. I guess we got to stop. That's weekend dad negotiating. Yeah. Like that's a weekend stepdad. Yeah. Um, like Alex Jones, but anyway, I fell into that rabbit hole and I, the reason it came to my head was because you were saying like they're so inept.

And it is, everything is incredibly inept, but there are people like that guy who wrote that tweet who create these other realities for people to live in these other narratives, much like Alex, where you're like, no, you don't get it. He's secretly doing all of this amazing stuff and fucking up wildly in public in order to make you think that he's a bumbling fool, man. Well, imagine. So like, so like with my family, uh, that voted mostly Trump. Like imagine having to come to grips with the fact that you thought you were a

clever, smart person and you wound up voting for the dumbest, dumbest, dumbest administration in all of the, all of the time. That would be tough. You would need that, uh, that burn ointment that is these fake ideas about Seth Rich and, uh, because then you would have to admit that you were conned. Yeah. Nobody wants to admit they were conned. No, I mean, it's like, everybody's got to learn to laugh at themselves a little

bit. Yeah. Everybody falls for something here and there. Right. And if you do, like, uh, whoops, like that's a much better response to have than fuck, how do I, I will not be made a fool of. Right. All right.

Because well, my response the last time I felt for something was, um, are you sure it's gonorrhea? Just gonna fucking let that you're gonna make me eat that one. You're gonna make me eat that one. That one's on you. I don't like you on, uh, like you on fucking Jamaican me happy. That is not Jamaican happy. You put a song by Heidi in here.

Yeah, don't be superficial. So, so I get, I get one. You got one. I got one. We're both at negative one point for this episode so far. Fair enough. All right. So look, generally this episode is really boring.

The August 1st, 2017 episode is a tremendously boring effort on Alex's part, like I said, he doesn't have the verb that he usually would or should have in this situation, uh, but he does say some stuff that I think is worth noting and worth, uh, discussing here in this next clip, he jumps into something about it's, it's a really good demonstration of his tremendous fear of Muslims. Let's expand on that. If you go back to 9 11, it was in major newspapers at the time that the FBI said

it's as if Al Qaeda had people at the top of the FBI. Well, we know with people like the man heading up the witch hunt right now, Mueller, he has major contacts with the Democratic party. His law firm gives 99.8% of their money to the Democrats. They get massive money from the Saudis, the Pakistanis. He's the guy that had the FBI in his 10 year tenure. 10 year, 10 year radical Islam off of the list of terror groups when they are responsible for 99% you can't, you can't.

Radical Islam was not on the list in the first place. No, that's too broad. Very much. Yeah. Uh, and, and also, I mean, this is just that thing that he gets really mad about all the time that is the like, well, I wanted to call it radical Islam. That's the problem. Well, the reason that you wouldn't do that is you don't want to create the

perception of a holy war and you don't want to alienate possible Muslim allies. Some people do. Yeah. Alex doesn't sort of get that. He thinks it's political correctness run amok as opposed to good strategy. Uh, and then the other thing is Muslims, uh, radical or not, do not create 99% of the terror and any, uh, cross section of the world, especially not America. No, certainly not.

It's white people. Yeah, it's a lot of eco terrorism. It turns out is actually one of the largest portions of, uh, terrorism in the United States, a bunch of environmentalists and stuff. Yeah. If you look at, I don't know who I'm, I don't know who I'm on that team with. It's very complicated. That is complicated.

You know, they, they do that, uh, they know, burning down shit. Like there's a lot of arsons that environmentalists end up doing. Uh, it's pretty wild, but they're putting a lot of, a lot of CO2 into the air. That's concerning. It's clean arson. They have arson, but they're scrubbers. Bring arson back. Yeah.

Make arson great. We need our arson. Maga. There we go. Mara. Make America arson. Anyway, um, yeah, the, the statistics are really interesting. Uh, that, the fact that, uh, that is a large chunk of the, uh, okay.

But also if you look into terrorism, it actually, the, the broad definition and the statistics that are kept a lot of stuff that you wouldn't think is terrorism falls under that category. A lot of like really intense vandalisms and stuff like that. Bringing 16 items to the 10 item checkout. Sure. That counts. Absolutely.

That makes me furious. Someone listening without headphones to music on the train. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So anyway, Alex goes on terror. And then we ask, why is the Muslim brotherhood being back to the Arab spring? Why is al-Qaeda and ISIS being back? Why?

Why is Hillary staying in the same bed? As Ooma Abedin and her Islamic family. Uh, why is a Islamic woman leading the feminist movement now in the country, teaching women to wear burqas. Why is USA today saying wear burqas if you're a feminist? Why is it everywhere? Why is everything Islamified? Why would I?

So, uh, yeah, his, his conception is, yeah, his conception is that Hillary and Huba Abedin are lover lovers. They, uh, they, they'd be banging. Uh, he just bases that off again, rumor and gossip. And, uh, you know, Larry, it's Larry, good for them. Both their husbands are cheating on them. They find each other at the right time. Absolutely.

No, no, no, I'm very happy with that. I'm on board with that. But he also believes that she's seduced Hillary Clinton in order to get her to be a mole working for the Muslim brotherhood because Huma Abedin has Muslim brotherhood ties. It's a whole thing. It's Larry Nichols shit. It doesn't matter.

That's a fun narrative. I like that one. And then the other stuff. He's super mad at Linda Sarsour for being involved with like feminism. Who's Linda Sarsour? She is a lady who, uh, she's an activist and she, uh, has been involved in like the, the women's march in DC and stuff like that. Alex is really pissed off because she wears a hijab, uh, and, uh, he just thinks

that, uh, you know, they're trying to get women to submit to, uh, Sharia law. Hmm. And having this Muslim woman who, uh, is a woman, uh, first of all, gross, uh, head up this, uh, feminism thing. They're just trying to trick these trendies into, uh, what if Alex saw her in a Starbucks or even a party supply store, he would get freaked out, freaked out. Yeah. So the, the, I mean, she's just one of his favorite boogie men, boogie women.

Uh, and, uh, you know, he insists she has deep ties to George Soros and is like a globalist operative, trying to bring, uh, Islam into dumb liberals. Yeah. Yeah. So, but this is all they want to be dominated really in that whole thing. Well, feminists secretly just want to be beat up by, uh, Muslim men. We all know this. I did just get why it is that you can still bitch about Hillary.

If you're these guys is because she's a globalist. So even if she's not president, she's still one of those high ranking members. Right. Like, you know, she's not in the Illumina or she's not president, but she's still in the Illuminati. Yeah. Yeah. Basically, she's still behind the scenes.

Yeah. I mean, Larry Nichols, his whole thing was that, uh, Hillary was going to become president and then appoint Bill to be the ambassador to the UN. And then within a couple of months, he was going to be the secretary general of the UN and then as a couple, they would control the world. Holy shit. Right. Can you imagine the right wing outrage at a, at a president?

Uh, appointing a family member to a high ranking position. It'd be nuts. They would lose their minds at that idea. It'd be so crazy. They would be like, this is nepotism and shit. Like they would do the whole thing. They were fucking mad when Obama's daughter went to Lollapalooza. That's right.

What the fuck? Uh, well, that's the globalist playbook right there. Yeah. So he has a few more comments about Islam, a vacation, I guess. Tune in to Trevor Noah or John Oliver, anybody that's attacking me. They say Jones is scum. He claims Muslims are involved in crime and that Muslims are unvetted and that some Muslims have diseases.

When it's either of them, they're pouring in with TB. It's a fact they're pouring in with crime. Just look at Europe. It, this is the untouchable God group and it looks like they just infiltrated our wide open government. I mean, the owner of Chabani yogurt. He's on the New York federal reserve board that runs our country. So a couple of things there, him talking about, that's not good.

I wouldn't do that if I were him. Oh, don't bring Hamdi Ullakaya back up. No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't do that. You're on thin ice, Alex. That's not a good idea. Yeah. So that number one is bad because he's also lying about him again.

He's not on the New York federal reserve board. He went over that on the episode about him. That was, that's not true at all. He was an advisory member years ago and is not anymore. And it was the advisory member of upstate New York. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So it was regional thing. It was the most nothing that could be nothing. Yeah. Just a collection of business owners who give feedback to the federal reserve. Right. Ooh. That's, boy, that is, but that isn't, that isn't legally actionable though, of course, because it's like, wait, no, that's not slander.

No, I, it's a lie. But yeah, but it's, I mean, it's almost a compliment. Yeah. Yeah. It's all it is, is just trying to create more powerful victims for Alex to be attacking or to be attacked by. Yeah. Yeah.

But then beyond that, him talking about people like TB is streaming in and stuff like that. Man, we went over that. Sure. I wouldn't be afraid of that if we all had vaccines. Yeah, that'd be nice. That would be, oh man, Alex, Alex, let me get rid of one of your fears. Yeah.

Get a TB vaccine. I think you probably did. Uh, you got soft killed. But that stuff is from the same thing that those fear narratives came out of the Breitbart story is about Idaho and we went over that. There were six cases of TB or something like that. And they were all treated. I feel like this is going to be a heavy, we already went over that episode.

Yeah. But don't you, don't you see too, in his tone of voice, there's just a defeated nest. There's like a, and he's throwing up old shit too. Real old. That's, that's a little bit surprising because by now he should have had a new narrative and get this, this next clip, he brings up something super old and it's embarrassing, but Y2K, is he afraid of a new Y2K?

No, but I did find a clip where he talks about that. Of course. That's on a future episode. He talks about how he was angry at Putin in 2000 and maybe he was wrong to be mad at him. Oh boy. Yeah. We're going to get to that next episode.

Okay. All right. But be that as may in this clip, get real excited cause the intro music is hot. Uh, and then Alex, if it's Heidi, I swear to God, I'm going to kill you. It's not okay. The, uh, after the intro music, Alex Jones talks and it gets substantially less hot. It's a confidence game.

I don't have a degree in psychology or a doctorate in her medical doctorate. Like Dr. You don't even have an associate, but just growing up, I noticed people who were delusional, maybe like five years old and be a little girl. Imagining she was a princess or you'd be a little kid, imagining you were Superman, but after about age three, I remember saying to my friends, I don't want to play Superman cause I'm not really Superman. You are the most boring three year old people in life that just, they get on

these power trips and they just think they're invincible and they always make the biggest mistakes in business in life. You name it. Don't fade that music. I don't know what you call that, but I look at the Democrats, the Republican leadership, you name it. They're on these power trips, the looks on their faces. I wouldn't buy a car from them.

I would, if they were my neighbor, I'd be freaked out by it. They just look crazy. I mean, Hillary all the time looks insane. Walking around like seething with her eyes bugged out. Like she just snorted a bunch of methamphetamine with a big, weird crocodile on her face with a bunch of other weird sycophants running around behind her. I don't know what you call this.

Psychologically disagree with diseases them. And now we've got Nancy Pelosi. We've, uh, every time she speaks almost saying George W. Bush is still president and not knowing what legislation is and they think that Trump's in bed with an attack on Korea with Putin. I mean, these people have less knowledge than a junior high student. That's fascinating. That is from six, eight months ago.

Yeah. This from early on in the show. Way old. That is one time Nancy Pelosi had a slip of the tongue. One time Maxine Waters had a slip of the tongue and said Korea when she met Crimea, uh, Nancy Pelosi accidentally said George W. Bush when she meant to say Trump. Well, that means she's a junior high student.

Right. It's a slip of the tongue that happened once. And Alexis, he keeps saying, he's got fucking nothing. He's saying that they keep saying it, that it's just constantly happening. They're senile. They're crazy. Yeah. Look at them.

They're out there saying, uh, George W. Bush is president. Yeah. He's creating the perception for his dumb ass audience, uh, that, you know, hey, they, it's a, it's a lingering thing as opposed to a slip of the tongue. Yeah. That's why it's people who are, who just think they're invincible are the ones who commit the worst mistakes in business.

You know, a lot of those people will, will file for bankruptcy. Right. Not once, but maybe four to eight times. Right. Somewhere in between there, a lot of those people on a state company. Oh yeah. A lot of those people will, uh, you know, just say some flat out slanderous shit and they'll get sued like it'd be terrible if they did that.

And then sometimes they accidentally become president and then say that transgender people can't be in the military and then their whole military is like, nah, yeah. They get cucked out by their own military. Oh man. So anyway, yeah, I just love the idea, generally speaking of Alex Jones talking about people being crazy because that's, that's wild. But then we're going to bring in Spencer Pratt to kind of talk a little bit more about these people being crazy.

Spencer Pratt is going to be on the show to talk about how all these Democrats really just want attention or willing to do anything to get it. Oh yeah. And he's going to be talking to my personal trainer as well. We're going to get them all in here. We're going to get a Skype three way. And it'll just end up us talking about how it's okay to be abusive to women. Uh, muscling in.

Anyway, uh, the other thing that I wanted to point out there is his description of Hillary Clinton, uh, eyes bulging out, uh, like she's done methamphetamine. Yep. Describing himself and he has done meth multiple times in his life. And he is surrounded by sycophants. Absolutely. Buckley. Anyway, this next clip, uh, Alex, could you please stop sleeping with my wife?

Which one, which one? Anyway, uh, this next, you know, which one I liked the most. Number four. Yeah. Yeah. She was great. She was. Anyway, I like the idea of the two of them reminiscing over his wife.

Well, we're on to like number seven now, probably four is three back. Yeah. So, uh, as we mentioned, Alex Jones has a lot of stuff on his plate at the moment. One of those things is that John Oliver on last week tonight this week put out a piece, uh, it was a 20 minute exploration of Alex Jones's supplements. Uh, and he went pretty hard on him, uh, did expose a lot of the stuff that we've talked about, like how Dr. Group is a chiropractor.

Yep. Uh, the only difference is they actually contacted the schools, uh, and found out that he doesn't have an undergraduate degree, which was, that was beyond what we knew. Yeah. We didn't know that one. Uh, that's great to know. But, uh, you know, Alex, when I saw that piece, I knew what Alex was going

to do and it's not as bad as the, uh, bonny, fair thing, because the bonny, fair stuff he can actively use as propaganda on his own show. He can twist it and make it, you know, yeah, propaganda with this. I, I saw the avenue of defense really easily. Like it's so clear what it is. I think I even texted you that what he was going to do and it's just what he's going to say that the globalists are trying to cut off my money supply. They've already attacked us by taking us off Google ads.

They keep trying to discredit me and they know that they can't take me down. I don't rely on advertising. I just rely on you getting the pills, you getting all of my supplements. So this time they went after the supplements, right? And this is the great globalist attack that I've been telling you is going to come. Yeah. And that more or less is what he, that is his narrative.

That is basically his response to it. But again, he says that, uh, they're lying about all of his stuff, which boy, they, they are not, they're not. But it's interesting. They did exactly what we, uh, what we hope to do, which is take him in context. And that's, and they kind of, but, but they did a great job. They did, but there's a greater context that they missed. Like John Oliver did mention the globalists a couple of times, but he

didn't really, like audiences probably glanced past that, not realizing what he was talking about. Yeah. But be that as it may, you might be surprised by exactly what really sticks in Alex's crawl about the Oliver report. But it's, oh man. Now, um, oh, it's the shirtless pick. No, it's not.

God damn it. The vanity of Alex would make you think that that's the case. It's not, it's actually, I don't think you could possibly guess. To make it sound like we're dirty and bad. We're so kooky. He says we sell the, the, the dust of dead domesticated birds. Like we're killing parrots or something. Now imagine if I said, we sell the meat of dead domesticated birds.

Okay. That sounds gross. So that if we sold chicken, fine, but they make it sound bad and they even attack that we sell coffee, high quality Southern Mexican, high mountain, nice pivot, nice pivot, super high quality, turn it into an ad. Basically you're seeing what I was hoping you would see immediately. Yes. He's turning this, he's turning it into an ad.

He's turning coverage of John Oliver's stuff into an ad, which is pretty smart on his part. That's really smart on his part. But the other thing is John Oliver didn't talk about the coffee stuff. That was from the Goop article. The article talking about how his products are the same as Goop. And they weren't attacking him. And he did, he did the same thing there where he's like, we just sell coffee.

Like coffee is his defense. Yes. It's the Patriot blend or whatever that has the weird mushrooms and your, your weird added chemicals in it and stuff like that. That's what people are making fun of. Yeah. Not coffee, the fact that you have vitality coffee and stuff like that. See, he's misleading even in his, to say that people are misleading you.

If you're a fan of thrilling adventure hour, you could call Alex the king of coffee. Indeed. Or $5 less than they sell it in Whole Foods. We get it from the exact same Chiapas farmers. Chiapas. I drank the coffee 20 years ago. I love it. I went, made the connections.

We get it from the farmer co-ops for $5 less than is in stores. It's a good deal. We're going to America coffee. They want to make fun of the fact that we sell things. So this is the other defense that he has is that everybody just wants to make fun of the fact that I sell things. Everybody sells things. Yeah.

It's like, that's not, you're not, you don't get it. Also, I want to say that Steve Pachanik is on hold this entire time. Of course. Of course. He's already talked to Steve for about a couple of minutes and then he goes on this long. The clip that I have pulled is six minutes long and I don't have all of it. So Steve Pachanik is on Skype, just holding and not saying anything for maybe

10 minutes. That sucks. Yeah. That's why you shouldn't do Skype interviews with Alex. Like at least if you're, like, if you're on the phone, you can at least like do something else while he's talking. But if you're on the Skype interview, you're just kind of standing there. Yeah.

Just like, is like, I fucking wrote books with Tom Clancy. What am I doing? He just has me on hold to scream, but John Oliver for 10 minutes. Anyway, back to this. So here's a brief clip of him engaging in alchemy, making it sound weird that we sell a high quality bone broth formula. It is turmeric, chaga, mushroom, a pollen and more superfoods.

Here it is. A chocolate flavored drink mix made from bee pollen, stevia and the dust of chicken skeletons. Now, according to info wars, it is one of the most popular new health trend in the world today. And by the look on Jones's face, it tastes exactly as good as it sounds. Pour that in on a couple of ice cubes. It's creamy and thick.

So you can't tell because of the overlapping audio here, but two things. If you haven't seen the John Oliver piece, he plays a clip of Alex sitting down with Buckley and he takes a drink of the caveman and he grimaces. He does not. It's not, he, he will later try and be like, I was surprised at how good it tastes, but it's not, it's very obvious. The second thing Alex has picture in a picture going on info wars.com right now. So they're playing the John Oliver video and he's on the side.

So video of him fake laughing. It, you'll hear laughter over this, that's Alex and it's him doing insane fake laughter, trying to show that like, I don't even care. Look how stupid they are. And it's, uh, it's again, it's, it's Heidi and Spencer level acting. It's terrible. Shit all over spite. And it's got all the bone broth and so much more.

This is why the ancients, they believe we're at such a better bones. We're so much healthier. You can look it up. You could freeze this. And this is going to be better than like Bluebell chocolate ice cream. There's the grimace. I know for a fact that Alex Jones did not enjoy drinking that glass of caveman because I have got a glass of caveman right here and I can confirm to you that

it tastes, it tastes exactly how you imagine a drink would taste. Okay, I'm going to stop right there. I'm going to do an analysis of this today or tomorrow. It's a 20 minute piece. I care what the whole show and it's all lies. He says, Jones spends close to 25% of his time plugging products. If you count plugs on air and the ads, that's the standard for broadcast radio and TV. Okay.

25% of an hour is 15 and that's the industry average 30 years ago. It's more like 19 minutes now. So we have less than the industry standard of radio and TV broadcast. So here is what Alex is doing. He is a big fan of double counting things. And so when John Oliver says on one of the shows we analyzed, 25% of the show was him talking about his pills or directly selling them. I just say pills as a placeholder, whatever.

Alex saying that 15 minutes of the show every hour is ads is not, that's not honest. No, we know. 15% or 15 minutes of the show is station ads. No. Well, yeah. And then another 15 minutes is his ads. Well, yes, because we know from, we have a copy of his contract, his syndication contract and 12 minutes, which is freely available inexplicably.

It's on inforce.com. It's there. 12 minutes of the 15 minutes that are commercials that are on the show go to the station in question. They can play their own ads. Then three minutes go to Alex. So Alex, the arrangement is supposed to be that is how he gets paid because there is no fee to syndicate the show.

Now, what he's not taking into account is that that is the 15 minutes. The 12 minutes that the station gets is their incentive to run your goddamn show. That has nothing to do. Like you just give that up. The fact that you spend, I would say probably 25 is generous. That's what I was thinking the whole time. In terms of a percent, I thought Alex was lying about what John Oliver actually said. I'm going to start keeping track.

I'm going to buy a stopwatch and I'm just going to keep track. Your phone has a stopwatch. I can't do it while I'm watching the episodes though, because I'm always on my phone at work. I'm watching the YouTube work. This is not something to admit publicly. This is not a great life. This is like you're attacking Hamdi Ulacaya.

Well, look, so Alex Jones is double dipping in the same way that Trump's budget double counts money in the same way that Alex. Recent one triple counts it and Alex Jones double and triple counts audience things and YouTube hits and all that stuff. He's doing the exact same thing with advertising time. And this is why people make fun of you for ads. So they're doing so many ads. It's because it's unethical.

The thing that is appropriate is commercial time. Yeah, show time, commercial time, show time, commercial break. It's unethical for you to sell products manipulatively into what we're seeing right now. This he sold coffee in the middle of this. What's supposed to be analysis media analysis or defending myself against John Oliver, right? Just throws in a completely superfluous plug for the coffee.

That's unethical. This is 10 minutes of the show. So if this is 10 minutes of one of the hours, that's one sixth right there. This isn't the only plug he did. Nope. And that doesn't count the commercial time. The in that hour would be 15 minutes. That's 25 minutes of the hour already.

That's covered by some sort of commercial does another commercial. Probably five minutes. Let's say that's an entire half that's taken up by non content. And even then a lot of his ads are like a lot of his narratives, right? Spin into the ads like the financial collapse is coming and then the buy gold. Yeah. Yeah.

There's so even his, even his real show is actually an advertisement for his ads. And in many ways, in the sense that a lot of his stuff is supposed to create fear, like a lot of his narratives are built on other ring minorities and vulnerable populations, making you afraid that you're going to be killed by roving gangs of black people, making you afraid of financial collapse, afraid of the communism that's creeping around every corner, every leftist around every corner. It is supposed to get you to buy food for your family. He calls it insurance.

You can eat the, the storeable food he sells. All right. You know, everything, the selenium, the, the, the colloid gun parts, colloidal silver, the, I think he doesn't do that anymore. I'm not entirely sure, but he does sell bulletproof vests. All right. Well, there we go again. But like all of those other things, all the pills are supposed to

give you back your humanity that the globalists have taken from you. Every single narrative is basically feeding into the pitch. Yeah. So 25 is absolutely not true. 50 is even spiritually not true. So Alex, you don't understand what people are critiquing you for. At this time, I, I actually genuinely think he doesn't understand that. It's possible, but you'd never be able to tell.

No, it's impossible for us to discern the line between willful lying and I don't get it. Right. Cause he's too much of an ego to say he doesn't get it. He, he wouldn't know that cause he's on HBO, which is owned by Time Warner, that they $28 million last year, ripping folks off on cable. So hated, one of the most hated companies in the world that they've changed their name twice.

Dude, it's not cable. Listen, it's HBO. Everyone hates cable. Look, every cable company charter, uh, our, our VN, whatever, what's the one here? RCN, is that it? Oh, I have Comcast, man. See Comcast, they're, they're, they're the most hated company in the world. Yeah.

Every cable company, everyone hates them. Alex, this is not special. And now is a good time to get into monopolies. I think you and I are going to solve this problem right now. Whenever you have a single, uh, source for any kind of product in any situation, a lot of the times it's a good guy, like it's bad that we show a bone broth formula that is show pop. I mean, it's literally hard to quantify, but we're talking about the amount

of nutrients that you get in 50 bowls of chicken soup for serving. I mean, it's something ridiculous. You can't really quantify it. It's amazing or bio, but like, okay. He's saying, I don't know if, you know, if you get more vitamins than you need, generally it doesn't do anything bad to you. Just pee him out, whatever. It's not really that negative of a thing, but he's saying, you can't quantify it.

It's like 50 balls of chicken soup. Hey, guess what? You can quantify it. It's numbers. And you just did. Yeah. Well, you, you just did a ballpark or whatever, but it would be very easy to figure out, Oh, here's the nutrition information on chunky soup.

Here's the nutrition information on. Caveman. You could easily tell. So yeah, what you should be doing is if like, you can't quantify it. It's like, it's like a stardust amount of chicken. Right. Yeah, yeah. You try, you have to bring in non specific language if you want to play that

shit. Of course. So here he goes on. It's like the tears of children amount of chicken soup that you need. We still haven't gotten to the thing that really makes him mad, which is really funny to me. Oh, we still haven't gotten there. He's mad about all of this, but there's one particular thing.

It's that grimace. Oh, he doesn't like that. He didn't like it. Oh, he really has to defend himself against these allegations that he thinks his own product. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It gets so wild. QQ, he makes fun of the fact that we're talking about the fact that that's known

for nerve growth factor. You can even make claims with that. This recognizes a drug all over the world. Not America. It's a food. We can sell it. They're trying to make it a drug right now. No one debates bio PQQ and that we have the organic source that the Japanese

misubishi makes. And it's, it's expensive. We have to go through a medical doctor to get it from not Dr. Group, but I always think he's saying Mitsubishi and it's like some, it's bio PQQ is only found in cars or something. Yeah. And he said Mitsubishi. I think it's misubishi or something like that.

Mishubishi. I think it's something like that. Oh, I haven't looked into it, but he cannot be misubishi. It can? No, it can't. Look, man, it can't be. I do not know.

It can't be a secondary car dealer. A lot of corporations get it, get put their hands into different stuff. Yeah. Uh, it's a lot like how we have four major networks or seven and they control all of our media really. Okay. So I'm going to stop right there. They own somebody's station.

It's just, this is how they singali this. I don't like it. And how they take something and turn it back. Now the reason I didn't know Buckley had put milk in it, because I've been drinking it for weeks when it came in and it tastes okay in water. Okay. I mean, it's very strong. It tastes okay.

Doesn't work with vanilla flavor. It works with chocolate and strawberry flavor. He added milk, but at the blender. And I was like, why is this super good now? It went from okay. I said that the full piece. What's going on? This is lighter color.

He said, no, no, no, I drink it with milk. So I asked him to go make me some. So I do it on air. So the reason I'm going, why is that so good now? It's because it tasted okay before and with milk tastes amazing. You add ice into it. It tastes like a frosty from Wendy's or something. The point is, you know what?

I'm going to do the John Oliver challenge. I'm going to announce it later. I've figured out what it is yet, but I'm going to do something like a discount for folks to get it and you can return it. If you don't think it tastes great with milk. So I'm going to do the John Oliver challenge. I don't know what that is, but probably what it's going to be is a sale, which we already are doing.

Of course. And if you want to return it, you can. That's not the John Oliver challenge. That's decent business practices. Who is the girl who, who is the, or the woman on the show who professed to love it? Did Millie Weaver, that's a rainbow snatch. Yeah. Rainbow snatch. He said she loved it.

She swore by it. I believe that was Owen Schreuer who was bullying her into talking about how much she loved it and she did say she loved it. It tastes like chocolate. Yeah. I love chocolate. I don't know. I don't think she's gone.

Oh, you think she's gone? I haven't seen her in forever. Oh boy. Yeah. Leanne McAdoo still occasionally making these video appearances over Skype. So she's sort of out of pocket. Yeah. Millie Weaver is totally gone.

As far as I can tell, Ashley Beckford is totally gone. I don't know where any of these people are. They're, they're in the wind. Listen, Millie, we loved rainbow snatch. Loved it. Loved it. It was revolutionary comedy. Alex has never fake laughed so much.

Oh yeah. That makes us feel good. You know, no, no, no. What he was talking about small bullets. He laughs harder. Yeah. Anyway, there's a little more here. Oh, I've now done it with protein powder and milk even better.

My kids love it and believe it, they wouldn't be drinking if they didn't like it. They're so healthy drinking it. It's, it's, it's just crazy that, that they think you're so stupid. So free shipping ends tomorrow. We've been running it for a month. Huge discounts across the board in full war store.com. Free shipping will also be kept tomorrow. 7% off of Michael ZX.

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It will eat a hole in your stomach and could kill you. That's a fact. I'm saying it's not that I'm saying that's competition. It's not for ingestion. And people have emailed us and said, can I just buy the stuff, you know, at the store that's topical? And I'm like, no, talk to your physician. It says on the bottle, don't drink it.

It's poison. Ours is a totally different type of iodine. But again, that's how they manipulate your mind. I'm going to stop, I'm going to give them the floor for the rest of the hour. Dr. Steve Pachennick, StevePachennick.com. It's just, this is a war. We're trying to cut off our funding. So there you go.

There it is, there it was. That's, uh, that's the narrative. Cut off our funding. But also there's true comedy and just being reminded that Steve Pachennick is a respected man around town. And he's had to sit there through all this. Uh, also you've got the dumbest fucking audience in the world. If they are like, Alex, should I drink iodine?

If you have trained an audience that is that dumb, I think they should all drink iodine. I think they should run that risk. Whoa, Dan, you're stepping into my territory there. Well, I mean, if that is what they're inclined to do based on hearing Alex, I don't know if we have a responsibility to stop them, but be that as it may. Alex is also misrepresenting things. I have heard on a couple episodes.

I didn't have time because I have a fucking day job, but I have heard a couple times him saying that other iodines, uh, not like the liquid topical iodines will kill you. Right. So him saying that is pretty dishonest. Yeah. Uh, I'll find the clips from the archive and post them somewhere. But I can't imagine those exist.

Yeah. Like every time. Yeah. Um, so Steve Pachanik has been on hold this whole time and God love you, Steve. He, I think he knows that Alex is in a weird mood. And so he spends most of the time that he's on talking about, well, he talks a bit about how Hillary's crazy, uh, and that Trump is great. You know, there's that standard stuff, but I, I, what I took away from it more

was that he was giving Alex a pep talk. He was giving him a little bit of a, hey, don't be down on yourself, buddy. You're still our messiah. Come on, man. The media is attacking you and only you. You're the only one who can stop the globalists. Yeah. I think he knows that he needs to, Alex is back from vacation.

He needs to get his head back in the game. Yeah. And the only way to do that is to kiss his ass a little bit. Right. So here is higher here, man. Here's Steve Pachanik, uh, talking about how much of a, uh, a rapier wit. Alex Jones has. Oh God.

No, I know you very well. I would suggest you either, uh, invite Oliver on your show and have a discussion or, you know, go at it because you have a far better. I will invite him and his writers on cause we all know Oliver is a composite. No, I understand. But I want just you and Oliver because the wit that you have is far sharper than anybody realizes. Let me, let me tell you something about yourself that you don't appreciate.

Whatever you are or you're not, you are an incredible wit that can absorb things at a very high speed. And you've got to use that as a weapon to basically say, okay, they've been knocking me down, but you know what? I'm still up. So you got an Anderson Cooper. Go and talk to him. I mean, Anderson can match your own wit.

We've invited them all on there all scared to come on. Well, then fine and go on their show. And so you went with Megan Kelly. What did it do? It increased your ratings. Yeah. And you looked like a sweaty biatch on it. It looked, uh, you looked like a disaster.

Yeah, nobody looked good. And we're still waiting for you to release those unedited videos, Alex. So please, at any, at any point now, release those things that prove that she manipulatively edited you. He released one little thing a couple of weeks back and it really didn't show. It just showed that they edit. Yeah. Cause it's TV show.

It's TV show. Yeah. They edit cause they're professionals and they want to create a slick product. That's not just yelling about how it tasted better than I thought my horse. Even Alex edits. That's why we don't get the good karaoke every time. No, that's not Alex. That's whoever is reposting.

Right. But he has to know that. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. You know, no. Are you saying that the people who repost it are cutting out karaoke on their own? Yeah.

I think they are. Cause I think that they realize it's embarrassing. Oh man. It's crazy. We got a new conspiracy theory now. Well, I think these people who are reposting it are info warriors. I think they're globalists trying to keep us away from the real truth. So you think that the globalists are behind Alex Jones and want to cover up his

singing? No, I think they know that Alex's real power comes from his magnificent voice. Oh yeah. And also I'd like to apologize and thank our buddy, Michael, who pointed out that as we failed to point out on our last episode, whenever Alex did do that karaoke and he's like, that's Randy, that's Randy Rhodes, Randy Rhodes was dead. When that song was not Randy Rhodes. I love that.

That's so great. That's such a nice little detail of all the lies. Yeah. That's the one we're most angry about. If I would just get an apology from Alex about that, we can end the show. We're good. We did what we set out to do. Yeah.

So we have one more clip. Also Alex does not have a strong wit. He would be destroyed in any sort of conversation with Alex. Alex couldn't even convince people he didn't agree with David Duke on everything. Absolutely. Yeah. That's a testament to Alex has no wit. He is completely unable to hold a conversation.

And John Oliver, Stephen Colbert, they do have a writing staff because they put on a professional show every day and they do it at a much higher caliber than Alex Jones. Now the reason that Alex thinks, but they are both accomplished comedians and improvisers and they are very quick. Yeah. No, it's the same thing with people who are like, oh, I bet I'm the best heckler there's ever been and I'm going to shut this committee down.

It's like, dude, I do this. Just just leave it alone. Like if if Alex tried to talk to John Oliver, it would be John Oliver says one sentence, it breaks Alex Jones's heart and then he shouts for the next 20 minutes. Yeah. I mean, haven't like, hasn't he ever seen these people like Colbert or John Stuart on conservative talk shows? Yeah.

They don't have writers there. No. And it's devastating. Yeah. John Stuart destroyed Tucker Carlson's career for like three years. More than that. He had to go. He had to go hide in a bowtie.

Yeah. He had to retire the bowtie because it was so damn right. Be that as it may. We have one more clip and it's just sort of indicative. Like I said, this is a really boring show. Like I wanted it to be an hour of him responding to John Oliver. Oh, of course. And maybe that's what the next day will be.

Yeah. We don't know that because it's only Tuesday when we're recording, but we don't live in the future. And if it is, we're going to have to convene an emergency session and go all over his Oliver shit. I've been, I mean, it'll just be a repetition of this. Basically, it'll just probably hire a writer to help him. Maybe a team.

But like I said, it's super boring. And it's because of these things that we're seeing. It's all very repetitive. It's old stuff. He's not, he's going with these things that he thinks are good bits. Like the Nancy Pelosi thinks the George Bush is president. Like Linda Sarsour, like Hillary's bang and Huma Abedin, all this, like, you need a new act, bro.

This is like a comic who's on year four of doing the same 10 minutes. Yeah. And, uh, or, or I would say it's even more like, if I'm, if I'm at 15 and I want to do something new and then I just, it just slips out of my mind. Without thinking, I'll just go into something old. That's just to get, just to get myself to that next bit. Well, like I'll be talking in the back of my head. I'm thinking, wait, what was the bit that I want to do?

Like I'm not paying attention to what I'm saying. I would argue that it's possible that the new bit he wanted to do was this new Seth Rich narrative, uh, and didn't have like the juice to actually do it. It's possible that that's the case. That was his new bit. And then he just went with the old classics, but he has, uh, he has Jerome Corcy on towards the end of the show and they just do another old bit. Mispronounced meme.

Yeah. And now you see Trump come out last week and said, if you don't repeal it, I can just cut the funding out of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that Obama using executive power allowed to be looted. And he also hinted that he's not going to let Congress continue to have the best healthcare in the world and have a taxpayer paid for that. He'll try to get legislation, sponsor to take that away. That's how you win friends.

Don't you think that'd be popular? I say, get rid of it. It's like Trump gives up his paycheck. So they're calling him a loser because in six months, he didn't get repealed. He's a total winner for fighting hard to repeal it and getting a good bill that Rand Paul called a good bill that has Rand Paul and Ron Paul endorsing it. That's a big deal. No, it's not, but also, yeah, but did he win though?

Didn't, he's a loser, he's a loser, but also there, there's the nice propaganda in there of that, you know, Trump gives up his paycheck, which again is small potatoes compared to what he's skimming. Right. But or compared to what he's stealing. Yeah. And what just his personal enrichment from being president has been. Um, I like, didn't scaramucci say that he was going to give up his salary too?

Probably. Yeah. I think he did. You know, he wasn't technically hired yet. Yeah. He was, uh, he wasn't supposed to start for another few days. Yeah. That's bad.

That's hilarious. It's pretty bad. That is like, this is, this is right back to the thick of it where it's like, look, if you get fired next year, it's because you fucked up. Right. If you get fired next week, it's cause I fucked up. That's what it looks like. There's some of that and Trump fucked up.

Yeah. But, uh, I mean, these guys, like Roger Stone comes on the show and his argument is that scaramucci was a political suicide bomber and he flamed out on purpose in order to take out Spicer and previous who are two globalist strongholds. So he goes in there. He actually believed that as much as anything else. I don't, I think he's just a loud mouth asshole who didn't realize he was on the record until it was too late.

No, he's apparently, he said he knew he was on the record. Well, no, the people say that because he said he requested to go off the record later and that indicates that he would have known he was on the record earlier, but it's totally possible that he just realized it halfway into the conversation. All right, all right. So I don't think that that's proof that he knew he was on the record. It's just, that's true. Yeah.

But I mean, like he had that brief moment of like, what did I say? You can't work in the White House and say that Steve Bannon wants to suck his own dick. You just can't do it. But see, that means to me, that means he's the perfect person to work in that White House. Absolutely. Are you kidding me? That's one, that's hilarious. Two, I like it when I like whenever that veneer of political speak is just

gone and he's just like, don't hang out with Cernovich. This motherfucker wants to, but, but fuck you if you want to be like, if you want to say what you want to say about Bannon, you, you, you can say it like more poetically, but nothing quite gets to the point. Like Bannon wants to suck his own dick. Right. Say it with your friends. Don't say it in the paper because here's why. Even if we don't like these people like Steve Bannon and Scaramucci and don't

really give a fuck if they get fired or, or drown at the same time. Lit on fire, hit by a truck or a lorry in England, but like, even if you have their own dick suck, even if you don't care, it's still really degrading to our government. That's really degrading to the idea of decency and working order for these people to behave this way publicly. But haven't you seen those videos where the Japanese parliament got into real fistfights?

That's not us though. That's pretty fun. Sure. I would rather live in a world where Paul Ryan got punched in the face. Are you shitting me? I wouldn't mind that. Paul Ryan loses any fight Paul Ryan has ever been in. If there was like a possibility for armed or like physical conflict in the,

in the house and Senate, that would be interesting. Yeah. Oh, I want Kamala Harris right next to me. She's who I want to foxhole if I'm fighting Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell. The problem is if physical contact were possible within the house, the Republicans would pull for open carry in the, then it would just turn into duals. Yeah, there we go.

Well, there we go. Yeah, we found it. Not too bad. Um, so yeah, I mean, Oh, the other thing with that clip is he's just going back to the Fannie Freddie narrative that we've already gone over. That's total bullshit. He's, it's just, it's boring. He can, he can, I mean, do you think he just misspoke there?

Because Trump can withhold subsidies. Yeah. For Obamacare. So do you think he just doesn't know that those are different things? I don't think he understands the concept of money being fungible in the government, you know, that you can just move it around. Yeah. If money that comes in is money that goes out, right?

Money is money. You can just put it wherever. I think that he might, but if he does know that, then he's just trying to score points and pretend that his, uh, Jerome Corsi's reporting was correct. But, right. Okay. So that's, okay. Now I get that.

It's probably just exploitation of what Trump could do. Right. I don't think that Trump has come out and made any claims about Fannie and Freddie, because that would be wild. No. If Trump knows about Fannie and Freddie, I would be shocked. Yeah, that would be why, but like, I think he must, I mean, if he listens to Alex, he's probably heard him talk about it.

I don't know. Look, I, I, well, the crazy thing is once you become president, uh, they take you into the back room, show you the secret book that teaches you how to suck your own dick. Right. Yep. They teach you how to fan your own Freddie and Fred, your own Fannie. Fine.

You get two points for that. It's two to negative one. And on that note, I'm sorry, let's get out of this boring episode we've been covering. This has been fun, but like I just, the source material didn't do it for me today. This is not great. I would have rather, I think probably spent all the time talking about Heidi

and Spencer quite frankly, cause it was, I would rather die. It was a blast. Rather you die. Blast from my terrible early 20s. Oh man. Me and Nikki gifts would sit around and just watch fucking Laguna beach and argue about whether or not these kids had bright futures. All right.

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