Knowledge Fight - #691: June 6, 2022

Episode Date: June 13, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan come full circle on their coverage of Alex's coverage of the Uvalde shooting.  In this installment, Alex sort of apologizes for his actions, and admits that he believes in lepre...chauns. Citations

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George, knowledge fight. Need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Stop it. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding it. Hello Alex. I'm a big fan. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. Knowledge fight. No, no, no, no, no, no, I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to knowledge. Right? I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like sit around worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. We are Dan Jordan. Jordan. Quick question. What's your brain spot today? My bright spot today is the game in the mail. Just a delightful care package. Let's see from raptor. Princess
Starting point is 00:01:20 Yes. A lot of care pack. There's a fair amount of chocolate in here that I told you already. I mean, all night. They even in the in the note specifically made it clear that I was to get some. I gave you the pickles. Some pickle relishes. I think you then it's worked out. Well, exactly. You're fine. I know. No, but for me, what sustains me is the heartfelt. No, very, very nice. Very nice. It was gorgeous. Yeah. So I'm going to eat all this chocolate. That's all I can think about. Also, I'm confused by this. There was a yeah, put it out there. Let everybody else decide for you whether or not kittens are going to eat kittens or if you should eat. So there is in this a street pack of for cats like a just a purina cat treat pack. No, for sure
Starting point is 00:02:14 that is for cats along with it. There's also something that looks like it. They're gummies and it's a brand called kitten candy kittens. Right. I don't know if this is for cats or for humans and I'm I don't know what to do with this. It's shaped in the form of a cat. You wouldn't feed a giraffe an animal cracker that looked exactly like a giraffe. That's just uncomfortable. See, it has allergy advice, which makes me think that it's for humans. That does seem more human, but it's making a big point of like it's palm oil free. Is palm oil something cats can't? I have no idea. What is palm oil? I don't know. I'm going to eat all of them anyway. I don't care. I think it's a good idea. Even if they're for cats. Eat the cat treats too. It's cool for cats.
Starting point is 00:02:55 It's cool for you. Squeeze. That's how it goes. So what about you? What's your bright spot? My bright spot is Dan. Yesterday, my partner and I went out and played tennis for a while immediately after we went to yoga, which was really cool because we had a lot of exercise, but she has gotten good. A tennis? Yeah. Rafa good? No. Well, I mean, like here's how good she's gotten. Like we started playing a few years ago and barely, you know, it was fun to hit the ball is so high and you know, that'd be fun. We were playing yesterday and she was kicking my ass. Yeah. Like I would eventually I was like, I think I need to play hard in order to keep up with her. That's how good she's gotten. Well, maybe she's been going easy on you the whole time and now
Starting point is 00:03:39 it's possible. Fuck it. We're married. Have I been, have I been getting played this entire time? Like this is the ultimate hustle. She's rolled you. She got married to me before she kicked my ass. That makes sense. Yeah. That was, she felt that she could not beat you at tennis before there was a ring on it. You know what that makes sense? A lot of women get, you know, they have the, all the men are bad, you know? So they're like, let's not do this until, you know, I got it. And I mean, I think it, who knows how you would respond to being beaten at tennis, you know, like I would wait years to beat you. Do you gonna throw a racket at me? No, no, no, no. I'm not. Oh, good, good heavens. No, no, that's not me. Any type of that time of contip competition. I
Starting point is 00:04:20 don't even like winning. It makes me feel bad. Right. Right. Then it's like you, you feel bad. I don't like that. Well, in that case, I would be, I'd be worried about losing. And I'm going to be real bad. Jordan wins. He's going to throw a racket at me. No, when I was growing up, my oldest brother, he was the one who had the temper. And so that and it was all competition too. You know, like he would get kicked out of things. Yeah. Yeah. Cause he was so competitive and angry when I was, so since then I've grown up with this kind of like, don't do that. You know, and I go way too far the other direction. Yeah. I had a friend when I was younger who would like throw controllers and break them and stuff like
Starting point is 00:04:55 that when you'd lose at a game. And yeah, that always, that kind of taught me early of like, yeah, you can control yourself and not break things. Don't do that. That said, I did punch walls for a little while when I was, when I was at my most angsty and mentally ill when I was younger. Your brain hasn't fully formed. A wall is in the way. That's true. A wall is in the way. That's what's going on. I didn't punch any load bearing walls. That's the, I have lines. That's good. So Jordan today, as we discussed on our last episode, we're going to be continuing, and sort of, I would say wrapping up in terms of like a dedicated look at the response to the Uvalde shooting on Alex's part. And I think there's a lot of people who probably thinking,
Starting point is 00:05:37 Hey, why don't you cover Alex's response to the January six commission? Wow. There's only one episode of the commission. Yeah. There's a whole season of the commission. That's true. Miniseries. That's true. And we do need to keep up on his responses. But the issue is on Thursday, that's when the, the first hearing, the prime time hearing was that day, Owen was hosting Friday. The next day, Owen was hosting again. God damned. As always, whenever there's something that is like, this is, we need to hear Alex's response to this. You're not going to get it. No, he, he, he hits the bench. Yep. Let the, let the minor league guys take the first hit, see what they've got to throw out there. See what people throw back at him. And then Alex
Starting point is 00:06:20 will take a crack at it and see for waters. And honestly, who knows if it's intentional at all, but it definitely seems to be pretty consistent whenever there is something that's like, this is going to be nuts. We're well over three examples. And that means it's a pattern. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's things that I think are like, obviously, like, well, there's, this is probably a coincidence. Like when the new Pope was named, like Alex wasn't in studio. When the new Pope is going to be named because it could be today or it could be tomorrow. It could be whenever. Yeah. But it is notable that Alex is out of studio whenever there are things that are like, he might, he might have some real interesting commentary on this.
Starting point is 00:06:57 If there's a personal connection that emotions might get him to reveal things that maybe he shouldn't. Yeah. So we're recording this on, on Sunday. Yes. And Alex may be hosting his show this evening, but we don't know by the time we're recording this and it would be impossible to flip it around. So maybe we'll have a January 6th committee response thing on Wednesday. Ideally. Yeah. We'll see. We'll see what happens. If not, maybe some space nonsense or something. We're going to do it. Or the past. We haven't gotten, we haven't gone to the past for a while. That's true. We've been in, we've been in the present requires some attention. It's true. So today, Jordan, we're going to be talking about June 6th, 2022. Okay. That is a day
Starting point is 00:07:43 that something really notable happened on Alex's show. Interesting. Should I, we talked about before the show, giving a teaser. Maybe you share a teaser. Yeah. You want to give it easy? Yeah. Because this, this is what happens. Okay. That is so fucked up. Let's see it. Meanwhile, I didn't get to this clip yesterday. We're going to play it when we come back. When I'm wrong, I'm wrong. When I made a mistake, I admit it. And I've got egg all over my face. Okay. Alex Jones is not always right. Okay. And I'm ashamed of myself. And I don't say that to like, Oh, look, he's ashamed of himself. I mean, I mean, that's how I feel. And I need to admit that. So Alex is ashamed of himself and he's got egg all over that face.
Starting point is 00:08:49 No, no, I refuse. I refuse to believe that. How do we get here? I refuse to believe it. Of course. But yes, there is a bit of a protracted quote unquote apology in this episode about his coverage, if you're right, right, right, right. And so we'll get to that and we'll see the path that we get to the apology. Of course. And again, in heavy quotes apology. But before we do that, Jordan, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new walks. Oh, that's a great idea. So first, Sunby, that's me says hello to to to to Tanuki town. Thank you so much. You're now policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. You love the Tanuki suit from Mario. Everybody loves it. I didn't know it could turn into a statue until two years ago. What? Yeah. Wow. Straight up.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Terrible. Never even found the hammer suit. Brutal. Next, Space Forge. Thank you so much. You're now policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, Hawk Jefferson from Twisting Plancha podcast. Thank you so much. You're now policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Next, the Build-A-Bear Group. Thank you so much. You're now policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Next, I don't patronize bunny rabbits. Thank you so much. You're now policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. And we have two technocrats in the mix. Jordan. So first, we're a couple of dudes who sit around and worship at the altar of ghost and laugh at 1997, the mummy memes. Thank you so much. You're now a technocrat and trans rights. And then
Starting point is 00:10:20 in parentheses, it says dramatic pause or else. Thank you so much. You're now a technocrat. I'm going to play the old one again. Do it. I'm a policy walk. Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone, Sotomayne sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark. Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser, little, little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Yes. Thank you very much. So now, Jordan, we start here at the beginning of the show. And here's where Alex's head space is in at the, at the job. All right. Most people don't realize they're living through extremely historical events until it's already happened. And I am not a doom and gloomer. I have
Starting point is 00:11:11 incredible optimism in humanity. I believe in humanity's future. I believe we'll colonize space. Yeah, very optimistic. Okay. I think that's not true at all. How is it that we're going to colonize space if the globalist plan is to kill all of us and then colonize space by themselves? Well, because you have to defeat the globalists and then you'll be able to colonize space because you will have past God's test of the devil that is the globalist. Right. Right. Right. Okay. Throw this out there. I'm listening. If more than one human, right, because we assume the globalists are interdimensional demons naturally for the most part, but they've got to have some humans working with them. So they get off planet, right? We're all humans. Did we technically get off planet?
Starting point is 00:11:51 No, because you're being possessed by the demons if you're working with the globalist. Yeah, you're right. You know, somehow the demon possession works into your genes and you're no longer human. Much like these Q and on folks believe that the COVID vaccine makes you a genetically modified organism. That's true. They have a patent on you now. Yeah. I think it would probably be the same. So yeah, if the globalists colonize space, that's kind of a bust. Then it's all over for us. We can't let them get off planet. I would take issue with Alex's claim that he's an optimist. Yeah, me too. That definitely does not seem true. I can't count the number of times he said we're all dead. We are all dead. It's hopeless. Billions dead. Even when he's optimistic, it's like
Starting point is 00:12:30 maybe only a billion. Yeah. And then I will be able to strangle Klaus Schwab with my parents. Right. Right. Right. Right. Yep. Yep. So that's still that's the good scenario. Yeah, that's still a bit pessimistic. So yeah, I think he's in a strange space. Yeah, as evidenced by and the science has shown that there are other dimensions more powerful energetically than our own holding our dimension in place. The higher dimensions are there as the mathematical equation show what show it. Show me the math. Show me the math. Evil influences in the universe as well, not just the epitaph of Genesis and life. So let me just state this very calmly in a very controlled way. We know from history, we know from the Bible, we know from
Starting point is 00:13:21 every other ancient text as well. I'm gonna call my shot on this one. No, we don't. Humanity goes through cycles of death and rebirth. And everybody's seen the meme that says hard times make strong men. Strong men make good times. Good times make weak men. Weak men make bad times. Or you can reverse it. Weak men make bad times. You can reverse it. Wow. Yeah, that is bull. So I think there's some interesting things that you can take away from this. First, obviously, this is a little bit silly. Yeah. The spacetime evil dimensions proven by that. There's more energy. I'm gonna wait until he demonstrates that to believe it. But use a little math. I think at the end there with this meme that he has about hard times make strong men stuff. I think that if you believe
Starting point is 00:14:25 that, you can no longer believe like really in free will. Like you have a pretty deterministic view of stuff because that's essentially saying that who you are and the hardiness that you have is determined by your circumstances. There's nothing like in good times, tough men won't exist or whatever. I think that's a little bit silly to assume that everybody is just sort of blowing around in the wind. Especially it's silly if you believe the sort of stuff that Alex believes. Yeah, I mean compatible. It doesn't really make sense to believe that the times make a man if you believe that God created you with all of your characteristics already intact at the beginning. Right. Then the times make nothing. The times are simply where God plugs people in and out, I guess.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Yeah. Yeah. This is a fine thing for a meme, I guess. I mean, it's sort of a way of contextualizing like, hey, things were tough and I learned from them or whatever. Yeah, ultimately, what you're saying is if times are tough, then people have to be tougher in order to deal with it. It's kind of an inspirational thing. And if you try and take it seriously, you're going to lose your mind. Yeah. Yeah. But I get it. I guess Alex has reached nirvana of some sort that like life is a cycle of death and rebirth. Yeah. And what have you. Yeah, no, I saw a heavily edited AI conversation. So we know that's true. I think that there's a weird implication there too. And that is that like, why would you fight the death then if it's just a part of the cycle that leads to the next
Starting point is 00:16:02 rebirth? Sure. Like what's the point? Make peace with the fact that this death is coming and there will be a rebirth afterwards. Have you? Alex really think that he's capable of breaking the cycle of death and rebirth? What? I mean, the wheel of the wheel of reincarnation. I really think that next time Alex is not going to come back the way that he thinks he is. I definitely, if he believes in reincarnation, yes, I definitely believe that that is the case. He is no Brahmin. I'll tell you that right now. He's going to come back as one of his kids' children because you believe you are your ancestors. God, that even works. You know? Oh, yeah. So I think there's a lot of convoluted nonsense going on here. That doesn't make sense. But but see this cycle, it continues. And here's
Starting point is 00:16:47 where we are, man. Okay. Good men make good times and good times make bad men. That's a simple way to go over the cycle, but it is a known cycle that humans have behaved in this way over and over again. And at the end of the cycle, what always happens? People start cheating on their husbands and wives. What? What? People start having sex with the same sex. What? I'm not even judging people that do that. Yes, you are. In person. I'm just saying this is historical. That's what you're saying. And then they come at her children and want to have sex with them. I am 100% against that. And then they want to start sacrificing with children. Well, we're here, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, that's where we're at. Sacrificing children. Right. Right. Right. I think that I think you're
Starting point is 00:17:34 right. That it is judgmental. I think I don't judge you personally for your behavior. What you are is the harbinger of the death of all men. What? I don't listen. It's not personal. Right. You're just an example of how all men are weak and going to die in this time period. Right. Right. Yeah. People having same sex relationships is a sign of the end times. I think that this is silly and offensive and clearly based in a bigotry that he has against the LGBTQ community. But I do think that if he wants me to take this at all seriously, then he needs to have as much anger as he does towards drag queen story time for anybody who cheats on their spouse. Yeah. He needs to have that as a consistent thing because if cheating on your spouse is also a harbinger of these
Starting point is 00:18:26 end times, then shouldn't you care a lot about that? He doesn't judge them as much. Did you ever have any infidelity, Alex? Nope. Aren't you remarried? Shouldn't you still be with your first wife? Well, I mean, by the babe, but yeah, well, sure. Yeah. I don't know. I find this insincere and just sort of a rationalization for him to be able to attack the communities that he wants to attack. Yeah. I mean, the problem there is if you start looking at history, you'll start looking at that strong men, weak men meme, and then start looking at matriarchal societies that function and have happiness and are joyful. And you're like, oh man, maybe we should just not have the men part. Maybe that's why the cycle keeps happening is you keep caring about men, hard men, weak men.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Doesn't matter. Get him out of here. I think also the some of that perception about the hard men come in hard times or whatever, like probably a lot of that has to do with our storytelling and the way we hero worship certain aspects. Yeah. I would assume that it has a lot to do with folklore and myth. But yeah, so they're sacrificing children. And here's what he means by that because he doesn't mean it literally, although he wants the audience to feel like it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we're here, ladies and gentlemen. And at a gay strip bar in Dallas this weekend, which one with a big neon sign saying it's not going to lick itself behind little children and all sorts of other pornographic statements. Children as young as three years old were brought
Starting point is 00:20:03 in and paraded around like Roman standards that have been captured by the enemy. So what other what other sexually obscene slogans were there on the walls and like, I don't know. I guess if he wants to claim that he can. But this wasn't like a strip show at all. There was a there was a drag show in Dallas. It was at a gay bar. That is true. And it was part of pride. But it was during the day and like as evidenced by the large number of adults yelling groomer at people outside the venue. Yeah. So there was a sign. There are pictures of this and like the right wing up in it. Oh, they have a sign. It said it's not going to lick itself. And this is a sign that's from a popular ice cream shop in Dallas called Cauldron ice cream.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Great. It's their slogan and it caught on. It's really popular. They have neon signs. Yeah. That they sell and people enjoy them. Right. Maybe if I were the event organizers, I would have considered taking that down. But ultimately it's not that big of a deal. And maybe they couldn't take it down. Like maybe it's installed really well on the wall and the bar wouldn't let them. Maybe they didn't think it was that big of a deal because I don't know if it is. I don't know. Presumably though, I think this is probably the case. Sure. I think everyone there was probably aware that that's a slogan of the ice cream shop that's super popular in town. So it wouldn't necessarily have as much of a hard sexual innuendo to the people
Starting point is 00:21:26 that are there. Sure. They would have more of a familiarity with it. It's more of a soft sexual innuendo served. Nicely done. So yeah, I don't know. I guess if that's child sacrifice, I don't know. I don't know what to say. This is this is pathetic. I don't know what three-year-old is capable of understanding concepts. Listen, they can read. That's possible. I'm not saying the three-year-olds can't read. However, the concept of soft sexual innuendo seems a little bit beyond them. That's just me. I'm not an expert on raising children because I have not interacted with children in quite a while. But I do remember that when I was in middle school, I rode bus 69 to school. Yeah. And people made jokes about it. What? And I didn't get it.
Starting point is 00:22:14 So that's pretty blunt. Yeah. So there's a decent chance that in a city where there's a popular ice cream shop where this is their slogan, people might, the kids might just be like, oh, it's like the ice cream. Yeah. It's great. I don't know. Anyway, I don't think it's that big of a deal. No. So Alex complains a bit about all of his enemies. And he just gets mad at the devil worshipers. And this is going to go on a while, but I just want people to feel this. We don't, we don't experience this much on the show, but because we turned it off after an ad pivot. Sure. Sure. Sure. I've spoiled that there's an ad pivot. Yes, you have. Yeah. Just, just live in this. Here we go. I hate these devil worshiping pedophiles. Every cell in my body wants to get
Starting point is 00:23:03 them off our children. And I can't do it without you and you can't do it without me. We can't do it without God, but together we can do anything that we will. And the fact that they've accelerated their whole agenda right now, and it's all out in the open and the mask is off is because the devil sends the beast with wrath because he knows his time is short. Let he who have understanding reckon the number of the beast for it is the number of a man. Six hundred and sixty six. Forty two. So I'm going to hit this economic news with the salt ties together. The most important working force has ever done is down here and I want to thank you for sponsoring us. Reset wars. George Soros is the world funding us. We have people like you. I've never had big
Starting point is 00:23:52 donors without the big donors that came in. We would be in the red worse than I thought and we'd be having to lay off half our crew as we speak this month. But some folks came through and literally sustained us. But I don't want to get into the red again real quick. We'll get back to this. But I really do feel, you know, at the point Alex is mentioning that these big donors essentially saved his ability to do the show. We're at the point where he needs to disclose who these people are because if there are conflicts of interest, I don't think that this is the case. But because he doesn't disclose who these people are, you have to like start thinking who could it be. Right. Someone who's willing to drop eight million dollars in Bitcoin on this fucking idiot.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Alex says that all of these billionaires and all these really rich people and the elites, they're all lined up in the side of the globalists except for Elon Musk, which is normal for Alex. Sure. But then the other name he throws in is Peter Thiel. And I don't think that Peter Thiel is the person who gave him the money, but like because he won't disclose who this donor is, it makes you think Peter Thiel is someone who probably could have access to millions of dollars of Bitcoin. Totally. It seems like that is a possible person. And if it is, there are implied reasons he would give Alex that money in order to bail him out of trouble. And so he needs to disclose who this person is for the sake of the integrity of his show, the imaginary integrity
Starting point is 00:25:21 of his show. I guess. But yeah, that troubled me a little bit. Because I've not heard him say like positive things about Peter Thiel before. I can't imagine him doing that. Like literally, Peter Thiel exists as the almost prototype of the globalist that Alex believes in. And he's responsible for a very chilling effect on free speech. Yeah. He's a monster. Yeah. He's an absolute monster. He also donated to Trump. No, I know he did that. I mean, no, no, no, not many people have challenged championed evil quite as well as Peter Thiel. I'm saying from Alex's perspective. Sure. Which is yeah, he was into Trump. Yeah. Anyway, back to our regularly scheduled plugs. Plus I've got products you need. We've got less than 10% of the coins left in
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Starting point is 00:27:27 So we're stabilizing here for now. Thanks to all of you carrying us through. But we really can't offer deals like this much longer. The Memorial Day special is going to have to go another day or two because I just don't even know what I'm going to have for sale here quite frankly. This goes on like three more minutes. It's incessant. It's so long. Why do I feel like I'm getting like a middle ground between an apology and a sales pitch and an apology for the sales pitch? It's low energy. But here's the thing. The introduction of this is that yelling about how he hates the demon pedophiles and what have you. And you can't beat them without me. And then this leads into this protracted sales pitch about how the Memorial Day sale is still
Starting point is 00:28:16 in effect. Compounding with the Easter sale. I mean, apparently it's an apology for not having a different name for the sale, which is essentially going to be the exact same sale. I have a spoiler too. Alex never has time to make a new special. That happens all the time. Yeah. He's constantly being like, oh no, I haven't had time to make a new sale. And you're right. It is just a new name. Yeah. I mean, what is it? We're a week's away from Christmas in July special. So what do we do? Double Patriot points. He can't be like, oh, we're doing Pride Month special. Nope, can't do that one. I think it would be interesting. That would be interesting. What a fucking turn around that would be. Yeah. So he does an entire segment that is just ads. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:59 And very, very much a bummer. Oh, also he at different points in the show, he does say that there's different amounts of those coins still available. So I'm very distrusting of how well the 10% available. There's like half left. But here, look, man, the reality is this. Let me just start going into it here. Man, I tell you the problem is I got too much news. And again, my frustration is if I don't drill into each one properly, I don't give it context in my view. That doesn't help things. But at the same time, you just can't get to all of it. So I'll just give you the headlines, a little bit of the news and then give you my synopsis. You can go read the articles yourself and decide if you
Starting point is 00:29:42 think I'm right or what you think is going on. I'm sure you'll have something to add to it. I feel like it's bizarre that Alex can spend an entire segment on ads and then be like, I have too much news to get into. I just have so much news. Which is fine, I guess. That's de rigueur. But I find it fascinating that Alex thinks that what he's describing isn't what he just does all the time. I'm going to read some headlines. I'm going to riff on it for a second. I don't give a fuck. You can go read it. You go read it and decide if I'm right or wrong. Right. And no one goes and reads anything. Right. Right. Right. And then nothing happens. Nothing gets done. There's no progress. Nobody understands anything better. I don't know why he thinks that
Starting point is 00:30:22 that's like not his normal day at work. I would like to hear him describe what he does that's not that, you know, like, well, listen, today I've got too much news. So I can't do what I normally do, which is dig into each story. I think he thinks that he does that. Really? Maybe. I can't. I can't imagine thinking that. Me neither. I mean, he doesn't even realize it when he has a stack of news articles that have been printed out and they're all the same story with different headlines from different like places. He doesn't do anything. He doesn't know anything. Nope. Nope. It's all just improv based on the headlines as suggestions. Yeah. But the part that's written is the part where he says that he's almost going to do the
Starting point is 00:31:04 a different thing. No, the part that's written is I need to make a new sale. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. So here's an interesting thing. I don't know how to deal with this white supremacy that's as rare as a leprechaun actually carry. I mean, it happens, but you know, somebody saw leprechaun once. I mean, it's going on just very rare. Alex believes in leprechauns. So somebody saw a leprechaun once. Apparently. Okay. So he stated as fact, somebody saw a leprechaun once. So now everybody believes in leprechauns. Somebody saw leprechaun once. It's going on. I mean, but, but wait, hold, but hold on. So that means that, but it doesn't mean that. Oh, man. I can't just say the leprechaun thing at me. No, it's, it's, uh, it's an interesting
Starting point is 00:31:54 way for Alex to minimize white supremacy. But what you was saying is it's as rare as a leprechaun, but then he realized leprechauns don't exist. They don't exist. And so he's saying that white supremacy doesn't exist. So now he has to commit to believing in a leprechaun. A leprechaun is real or white supremacy is not. I saw that series of documentaries. There was one where the leprechaun went to the hood. Uh, yeah, I think, uh, I think we need to get a magician. There was one where he was in space. What is it? There was a leprechaun trying to colonize space. We've got to beat him to it. Oh boy. Um, so yeah, Alex believes in leprechauns. Yeah. And he doesn't believe in the most common ideology. What's that? White supremacy. Oh, yep. So, uh, yeah, it would be like if there
Starting point is 00:32:39 were leprechauns all over the place. Yeah, you couldn't fucking kick. You couldn't walk without kicking three or four leprechauns. If like, uh, general mills got canceled for having lucky charms. If like, it'd be like leprechauns would open windows and toss chamber pots filled with gold on top of your head. You wouldn't be able to walk without having an umbrella. Uh-huh. You know, instead of tic-toc, we'd have riddles. Just riddle. Dude, wait, do leprechauns tell riddles? Leprechauns do not tell riddles. Shit. No, no, no. Mixing up my, uh, myths. Yeah. Um, so Alex, a lot of this is dominant sense, but then also a lot of the beginning of the show ends up getting into some territory that he feels a little bit hurt by. And I'm not gonna even go over all the
Starting point is 00:33:25 lies. It's just, it's staggering. But I mean, here's an example. Last week, hundreds of publications, Reuters, AP, New York Times, Washington Post, basically every hundreds that I saw said Jones thrown out of bankruptcy court by the justice department for being a criminal. And it's a huge victory for the Sandy Hook parents. They dropped their lawsuits against info wars and against our key real companies saying they were fake. And it's a devastating victory for the truth and everything. They're still suing free speech systems and that's ongoing, but I'm not going to give you the inside baseball, but I'm gonna leave it at that. The point is, is that they're at the table right now and then you look at the news. Oh, Alex Jones and the justice department,
Starting point is 00:34:19 they dropped their lawsuits against info wars and three other companies info wars health. And so we dropped the bankruptcy total victory and then they, they, they spin it that I'm a criminal and the DOJ made them drop it. This isn't at all accurate. That's weak. So to sum up, Alex attempted to file bankruptcy for three of his companies that don't actually exist, except on paper, three key real companies. Right. That was a little funny. Yeah. A little silly. These three companies were among the name defendants in the cases against Alex because prior to the suit, it was really unclear how his businesses were arranged and it wasn't known that none of these companies even do any business. Alex tried to bankrupt these companies because
Starting point is 00:34:59 he knew that doing so would put a halt on the trial for damages in the Sandy Hook cases, which is why you filed days before the trial was set to begin in Texas. It was a desperate move on his part because he knew that it was the only way he could buy time. And ultimately, because the companies he was bankrupting didn't have any assets or do any business, it wouldn't make any difference to him if he did that because that was the case. And because of the new awareness of these companies that they aren't really real, the plaintiffs decided that they could drop these, the companies from the lawsuit as a way to make it so Alex is bankrupting of them wouldn't affect the case's ability to move forward. There wasn't anything that they could
Starting point is 00:35:36 collect from these companies on judgment anyway, so it didn't matter to drop those companies from the suit. It's a zero. The trial itself got postponed still and that was obviously the goal. And now that goal has been achieved, there's really no reason to continue with the charade of the bankruptcy. The plaintiffs dropped the non-existent companies from the suit and Alex withdrew the bankruptcy claims so the case can now move forward and it's basically like none of this had ever happened. None of this matters in terms of what's coming for Alex. The suit being dropped against Info Wars means nothing since he's still personally being sued and so is his actual company Free Speech Systems. If he now tries to move a bunch of money or assets
Starting point is 00:36:19 around to these other companies that got dropped from the suit, it's going to be pretty apparent what he's doing and it likely result in further legal issues for him. His spin sounds good if you know nothing about the case like his audience almost certainly does, but if you've been following this at all, this is just complete bullshit and you know that he knows he's lying. There's no way he could say these things sincerely. He said key real companies. What is that? Say that in any way that isn't obviously you saying that these are fake companies, right? Yeah, it's a tell. It'd be key companies. That's fine. You'd be like, oh those are central to your business operation, but you had to specifically say to me they were key real companies. I must insist. What does that
Starting point is 00:37:01 mean? I must insist that this company is very real. Do you have key fake companies as well? These are the important fake companies we have. And Alex screams a bunch about how like I tried to open up my books to show them that I don't have the money. They think I do and like I would take that way more seriously if he bankrupted himself and Free Speech Systems, but there's a reason he didn't do that and that's the reason that the trial is coming up at the end of July and he's going to be fucked still. Yeah, that's the idea. It does not matter that these these other companies got dropped. That is the idea. But he's oppressed by whom the system. Oh, which one? I didn't intend to go off on a big tirade, a jag about the Justice Department and the stuff they do. To me, you can
Starting point is 00:37:49 pull it up. Thousands of articles in the last few months. Jones is a fraud. Jones has filed a criminal bankruptcy. Jones never looking at one document and none of it ever even got entered in. Never got to that point. They're supposed to be a deliberative body. They're supposed to get evidence. They're supposed to actually know what they're talking about. And then again, they spoke their own dope and drop all their challenges against our main companies saying it's a fraud. Our key main real companies. They think I'm like them. They think everything comes out of my mouth is a lie like them. When everything I do is to strive to be as accurate as I can, because I believe that's the currency people want is truth. I think the lady doth protest too much wild. Yeah, this is a little
Starting point is 00:38:46 this is a little dumb. Yeah. I know you are. But what am I is a lot shorter way of saying that. It's really uncomfortable to hear a man use a lot more words to say I'm rubber in your glue. Right. Yeah. But you know what? There is something that is kind of compelling about this. If you're a listener of his show, and that is you would assume that info wars LLC is the main company. Of course, because the company is named info wars. Everybody calls it info wars. It's the the the logo says info wars. And so the notion that the info wars itself was dropped from the suit would give people that perception that like that is the main real company, but it's not. No, no. It's yeah. It's I see the value of the spin that he's using for his audience totally
Starting point is 00:39:37 totally. But it's dumb. And it was also a deliberate choice to name a shell company a fake a key fake company after the name of your actual business. But yeah, I don't I don't know. Anyway, Alex is like these people, they think that I'm a liar because they're liars. Right. And look, I'm not a liar. No, now I've done almost 700 episodes of the podcast thoroughly talking talking maybe too much about the myriad lies that he tells. I mean, I would say like, look, there's some repetition in our show, but not that much. Not as much as well his. It's not like we talk about the same bullshit every day. We really don't. We really don't. It's new and like fabulous lies that he tells. But look, he doesn't when he's wrong. He wants you to know, of course, they literally
Starting point is 00:40:29 think we're like them. And guess what, losers? We're not. We're good. And it doesn't matter how many lies you spew or what crap you put out. The listeners and there's millions and millions every day and millions more every week, they tune in here because they know they're getting their best shot at accurate analysis. And when I'm wrong, I'll tell you because I want you to know it because I want to get better. And that's really the difference. These people just think up the biggest lies they can and think about how do they deceive people and how do they screw people? I don't want to live in a world like that. I have children. If Alex wants to know like what he's got wrong so he can do better, I have 700 episodes of the
Starting point is 00:41:15 podcast for you to study. You got a lot of evidence. Get to work. Yeah. I mean, it is, it's one of those things where we've developed a tone of voice, you know, over centuries and thousands of years in order to communicate emotions, you know, that we without words. Yeah. At no point in time in human history has a good person ever been like up in your face screaming, listen, buddy, we're good people. And you've been like, yeah, that sounds right. It's it's telling the truth. It seems rare. It's I'm not saying it's not possible. Right. I bet I bet at some point it has happened maybe in the wild west when everybody was rough. I'm going to throw this out at you in the Bible, which he supposedly likes, you know, that whole like, don't say you're a good person. People know because
Starting point is 00:42:03 you do things that make them think you're a good person. Right. Right. But what if instead you yelled a lot? That's a possible thing you are. Yeah. I didn't consider that one. That one seems a lot faster. There weren't. There wasn't a radio show in the Bible, right? That's true. That's true. Saul would never have become Paul if he had a radio show. No, he would have just been Alex Jen also Alex would never walk along a road. So no, no, absolutely not. So this is the context that brings up Alex's apology. Essentially, he is in this state where he's complaining about the media lying about him and his cases. Right. All this is like, I want to be honest. Right. I am not a liar. It's about striving for accuracy. And so that leads him to his I have egg on my face.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Yeah. I am ashamed. But before we get to that, Alex does have to discuss his own weaknesses a little bit. And this is interesting. Okay. You don't think I don't know karma is real. You reap what you sow. Because I've done things unintentionally bad in my life. And it came back on me. I'm scared to do bad. It's not like I want to do bad either. I morally don't want to do bad, but I'm scared to mess up. What? And that's why we're so different from these people is I'm scared I'm going to get pissed and bash somebody's brains up. We're good. I know I'm a lustful person. I got to keep that under control. And I know when I get under pressure, my mind will twist things sometimes and convince me that
Starting point is 00:43:40 doing bad things is moral. When I was younger, I couldn't control that and make a lot of mistakes. I make far fewer now. Maybe your perception is just different. Maybe you're really rich and surrounded by people who don't check you anymore and you are still making the exact same analyses of whether or not the things you're doing are good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What you can do. So there's two ways to go about this. All right. You can do good things, right? And then people go, wow, you're doing good things. Or you can give people a lot of money to say you're doing good things. That is an option. Same thing. I think we got a quite a list here of Alex's failings.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Yeah. He's intensely violent. He wants to fuck everybody. Sometimes his brain tells him evil is good. I just look at this person and see somebody who is even when trying to make sense of the world in a way that is like, I know I'm telling you a lie right now. Alex knows when he's lying. And my brain is telling me that that's actually good. I mean, yeah. He's just so fucking confused. This is a confused, scared boy that got a million, billion dollars and a radio show. Yeah. It really shows the danger of dentistry because you get a rich dentist dad who just enables your bullshit. No. Do you know what it is? Here's what it is. Exactly. It is the Twilight Zone episode where the kid has the psychic powers and the adults all
Starting point is 00:45:14 around him are just enslaved to that child's whims. Do anything wrong and you might turn into a lamp. That's what we're dealing with with Alex. If that kid grew up and everybody was like, well, I guess we just live like this now. You know what else I was thinking about too? I was thinking that this wouldn't be happening if it wasn't for 9-11. Alex's career would not exist really without that long stretch of building up a weird community around 9-11. Or at least he would still exist, but mostly on shortwave or something like in the niche area. I don't think he has the capability. He did write a book and it is nowhere near the appeal of a Behold a Pale Horse. No. He's no Bill Cooper on that level. No, no, no. And maybe this is what
Starting point is 00:46:03 the terrorists wanted. Maybe All Along is a long game. They did 9-11 in order to facilitate the creation of an unhinged, weirdo conspiracy theorist in Texas in order to destabilize democracy. I'm not joking when I say I really do think that that's going to be going down as the most successful terror attack in history because if your goal was to destroy the United States, it's hard to believe that everything we've done since 9-11 has not gone that direction. Going through my head trying to think of other terrorist attacks. I don't know. I mean, there is a recency bias and we lived through it. Sure. That leads me to be like, well, maybe not, but I can't think of anything. I don't mean successful in terms of impactful.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Exactly. Exactly. In real terms, that event stoked everything that led to where we are. The militarization of police, ICE, homeland security, the fucking rise of the far right, the massive amount of Islamophobia leading all the way back to LGBTQ homophobia, all the way back. Like it goes all the way around and it all happened around that one specific thing. Yeah. I have a lot of faith in us being able to create bad situations. So I have some, I have to hold on to a belief that we would have got to a terrible place even without it. Yeah. I do think, I think that you could see a lot of the sort of ripple waves for sure coming from that. But yeah, I was just trying to make a joke about the terrorists wanting to create
Starting point is 00:47:40 Alex Jones. Yeah. Well, I think they did. Fair enough. So Alex has really bent out of shape about how everyone's lying about his court case, even though they're telling the truth about it and he's lying. Right. But they're lying. So he's telling the truth. But in order to like really make it real that he tries to do a good job strives for that leads us to where we had our cliffhanger. Meanwhile, I didn't get to this clip yesterday. We're going to play it when we come back. When I'm wrong, I'm wrong. And when I made a mistake, I admit it. And I've got egg all over my face. Alex Jones is not always right. And I'm ashamed of myself. And I don't say that to like, oh, look, he's ashamed of himself. I mean, I mean, that's how I feel. Good. And I need to admit that.
Starting point is 00:48:46 I wish he felt that way more generally, as opposed to like in this very niche, specific situation. And I think we're going to, as we look at this apology, I think we're very clearly going to see he is not apologizing for anything. He is transitioning a narrative. Sure. And also blaming everybody but himself. It's not his fault. No, he was trying. He was striving. And he just got bad information from all the liars out there. Some somewhat, some somewhat, that's part of his angle. There's other parts of it too. That's amazing to me. I mean, it obviously has to be that he's not actually ashamed. But the idea that he could be like ashamed in terms of like, what a relative ashamed mint is, you know? Like, what is my shame relative to what that man must
Starting point is 00:49:35 feel if he feels shame? He feels no shame. I think when he talks about feel ashamed, it's a missed opportunity. Right. I think that's what he's really expressing is like, I whiffed on this one. There was another, there was another way I could have covered this. Right. And I really think I fucked up based on my own brand. Right. That's basically what the long and short of what we're going to get to. Yeah. I mean, he's going to say we talked about that on the like first episode covering this stuff. It's like, this is, this is completely alien to Alex's coverage. No, it's he's going to apologize for trying to tell the truth. Yes. Yes. That's correct. That's exactly what he's going to do. Yeah. And also that he was too tired to go to you. He was going to
Starting point is 00:50:17 go, but he was too tired. Oh, he's tired. I am tired. And I didn't want to get in the car and drive three hours to you. And I just want to believe in Texas and I want to believe in police. I want to believe in the system because I know that that old system is not perfect, but it's under attack. So I got up here on air and I regurgitated the official story. And even after the evidence came out that it was a lie, I just lazily went along with it. So there's a couple of points I want to make clear before Alex tries to do any kind of apologizing. The first is that he did not just go along with the mainstream official narrative, which happened to end up being inaccurate. Alex was all over the place, treating 4chan hoaxes as serious reporting and making up that
Starting point is 00:51:09 the shooting wasn't a shooting, but was really a hostage situation. Alex can easily be forgiven for the things that he misreported based on faulty information that was coming from official sources. But if he expects anyone to take his correction slash apology seriously, he needs to actually understand what he did that was wrong. He'll never do that because it really penetrates his entire facade if he lets the audience in on the fun secret that he's just making shit up all the time. The second thing that's important to point out here is that Alex is literally admitting on air that he reported information that he knew to be inaccurate because he didn't want to criticize the cops. Alex recognized that the left and all of his imagined enemies were
Starting point is 00:51:46 being very critical of the police, so he tried to be the opposite of that, defending the police, even when he knew that what he was saying was a lie. Right. If you listen to this show and you take Alex at all seriously, this should be a massive wake up call. This is not Alex saying that he got something wrong. It's him saying that he actively and knowingly lied on air because it was better for the position he wanted to take. It may feel like he's doing a correction and that somehow indicates that this is a unique situation, but that's nonsense. He's already couching this as an apology for regurgitating the mainstream media's narrative, which is an effort to pretend to take responsibility while ultimately shifting the blame away from yourself onto the media.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Well, I mean, he literally just said that it was lazily. You know, I easily reported things that I knew were a lie. He said I knew those were false. Yeah. But then I went along with the official story lazily because he was tired as though as though that's a thing you can do. Oh, no, no, no. I was just too lazy to tell the truth today. So I figured what I do is go with the official lie. A far, a far more reasonable thing to say in a situation like this is, I mean, like what most media outlets would probably say, and that is, you know, we got reporting that came from sources that are official and it was inaccurate. Yep. We didn't have an avenue to dig further into this. Right. It's a very serious situation. It's our first time
Starting point is 00:53:13 discovering that the cops lie. We've never seen that before. So it's really blowing our minds, you know, right? But look, here's the thing. I think that even though a lot of outlets miscovered this in terms of like just basic factual information, they also were reporting, this is what the spokespeople are telling us, which is true when they say on a basic level. That is true when they say reportedly, or official sources have said they're not saying or making it up. They're not coming up with their own narrative and then saying that official sources said it, but they're repeating the official narrative. Yeah. But then as, as a way of taking stock of that, and after the fact owning up to the mistake that was made, it's very easy to,
Starting point is 00:53:58 you know, take an inventory of the things that were done. Alex can't do that because in reality, recognizing the things that he did, yeah, aren't the same as other media outlets. One, one thing that he didn't even bring up. He said it was the media line. He said it's the media line. He didn't bring up that the cops themselves were lying. He kind of touches on that a little bit later. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Good. But yeah, it is a murky gray area for him because everything needs to be the media's fault. It's got to be the media who is lying, but they were, you know, it's all stelter. Yep. Somehow. Of course it was. I knew it. Yeah. But you know, look, he's gonna, he's gonna tell you all about it right after these commercial messages. And I'll tell the
Starting point is 00:54:40 rest of the other side. I'll just, I'll be completely honest because it's not just about me, it's about understanding the thought process that we're all having, but the, you've all these smells bad guys. And I'll just say it when we come back. Stay with us. All right. Yep. False flag. Yep. That is the longest way we've ever gotten to the place we were always going to be. Right. I mean, it's an inevitability. The sun rises. You have to pay taxes. And Alex is gonna say something's a fucking false flag. We took so long. Yeah. So when I, when I see this, when I see this being treated as like an apology or correction, I really, really don't feel like that is what this is. Yeah. It is a, I could have gotten away with calling this a false flag and look at all of these
Starting point is 00:55:33 dynamics that would have really fed into my ability to grandstand. And I didn't because of Sandy Hook. Maybe, or maybe it's because he loves the cops. Sure. Maybe it's because he's proud of Texas. Sure. Who knows. Could be anything. Maybe it's the lawsuits. Maybe it's the lawsuits. Maybe on a school shooting where you are already being sued for lying about one, you don't lie this time. And it turns out this is the perfect and only time to lie. Well, I have this friend of mine who is the Piranha of Liberty. Piranha of Liberty. Yeah. And he tells me that it is not because of the lawsuits. Oh, okay. Very literally. And we'll hear that a little bit later. No, he does not say, Oh, for fuck's sakes. The only reason you
Starting point is 00:56:19 would say it's not because of the lawsuits is because you know it's because of the lawsuits. And you know that everybody is going to see through that very transparently. Yes. Obviously. So Alex comes back from break and I think he has some pretty dumb thoughts. Okay. I see the lens of the world through my own eyes. So do you. Bible says we all see through rose colored darkly. Real quick. It's through the glass. Darkly rose colored glasses are a different. He's mixing. Yeah, he's tossing them all in there. Yeah. And so no amount of intimidation, no amount of threats, no amount of attacks is going to make me change what I say and I do. And so two weeks ago, when the tragic event unfolded in Uvalde, Texas with 19 children and two
Starting point is 00:57:06 teachers killed, there were publications everywhere saying, Will Alex Jones say this is a false flag? Will Alex Jones say this was staged? Because Jones always says it's staged. No, I don't always say it's staged. Yeah, you do. Yeah, you do. But I also don't think there were publications everywhere. No, like, I can't imagine how narcissistic you have to be to think that the first thing on people's minds, like who are in the media when a tragedy happens is like, I wonder if Alex is going to say this is fake. Yeah, that might be one of the first things on my mind, but I'm in a very niche space. I will tell you, it is not the first thing on my mind. No, the tragedy is obviously far more important than, Oh, I wonder what Alex is going to say
Starting point is 00:57:51 about this. I get to that thought eventually, much quicker than most, I will say. Sure, sure, but that's something that you have to get to. Like something in the garage that you have to go pick up and you have to mow the lawn. You know, your first thought is not, Oh, I better go mow the lawn. After I get over the horror of the situation and try and get a handle on like what's going on, then maybe I'll be like, and it's not like Alex is going to say this is fake. Honestly, my reaction is more like, fuck Alex is going to be an asshole. Yep. Like whatever it is, is going to be awful to listen to. I dread opening up those, those episodes. We were not concerned if he was going to say that it's a false flag. We were concerned that he was going to
Starting point is 00:58:34 blame somebody who was trans, who had nothing to do with it. And there we go. Yeah, you know, that's the type of shit that we're worried about. Not whether or not you think it's a false fucking flag is who are you going to hurt because of it? Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, I mean, it is again, just like a manifestation of his narcissism. And quite frankly, the way that he's behaving here already on this apology, it gives credence to the idea that people would have a reason to speculate whether or not he's going to cause a false flag. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absurd. Yeah. So Alex thinks he was just covering what the mainstream media was putting out, which again, it's absolutely not true. I mean, in his mind, yes, just because he made up some
Starting point is 00:59:15 stuff along the way, that's just him adding a little zoos to his. That's reading between the lines. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I guess. Yeah. Maybe if you're really generous. And the list goes on and on. We have the Buffalo white supremacist shooter turns out was in constant communication with a former federal agent that obviously leads to provocaturing leans towards that. Obviously. So just because I've been sued by the Democratic Party for questioning mass shootings, is it the reason I came out two weeks ago on Tuesday after it happened and said, well, the police say that they chased him in there and engaged him and a hero, Border Patrol agent killed him within 12 minutes. And then, well, he was barricaded inside there
Starting point is 00:59:58 and we're not sure. And it was 45 minutes. And then it was 60 minutes and then it was 70 minutes. Now it's 75 minutes that they stood outside the state police, local police, all of them, and held the families back and they lied about it for a week. And finally, the head of the DPS went down there and said, I was misled. And the governor said he was misled. And then I said, okay, it looks like we were lied to. But I should have gotten in a car and I should have gone down there three hours away. And I should have interviewed people like I used to do. It's interesting to think that there's a chance that Alex really thinks that all he was doing was reporting what the media covered. There's a small possibility that's really what he feels,
Starting point is 01:00:38 but it's not true. The night of the shooting, Alex's coverage wasn't based on any news. It was based on a transphobic 4chan hoax and his knee jerk insistence that the shooter was on mind control psych meds, something he was making up and wasn't based on any reporting and he still can't demonstrate now. He did get some things wrong because of misstatements by officials. And I've tried to be overly fair in pointing out instances where he's been wrong, but there's no reason to expect him to have known that what he was saying was inaccurate. That has happened a bit, but the larger picture, a lot of the stuff he's been wrong about aren't things that he was wrong about because of an honest mistake. There have been things that he was wrong about because
Starting point is 01:01:16 the shit he was saying wasn't based on anything. It was just out of nowhere. Even as time went on and he needed to explain away inconsistencies and new information, Alex didn't report things based on the mainstream media or the official narrative. When the initial timeline began to fall apart, he had Tim Inlow, his former Blackwater security guard, come on the show and give out anonymously sourced information that helped Alex reframe things as a hostage situation. That wasn't CNN or even Fox News reporting that. And then Alex covering it. That's not what the situation was. I mean, he even said he had inside sources that were his alone. Yeah. It was his security guard gathering information from sources which Alex took
Starting point is 01:01:55 and created his own story out of. That's independent reporting. No, no, no. That's the mainstream media. He was just repeating the mainstream media. The mistakes Alex has made in this entire situation are his own fault, largely speaking. There are a few mistakes that he made that are ultimately completely forgivable because there are mistakes that almost any reporter would make. And I think that what Alex wants to pretend all of his shit is that. That's what he wants to do. He wants the same pass that actual above board reporters want. Despite the fact that we know explicitly from their depositions that they are not journalists. Well, it depends on which deposition. Well, it depends on which day. Second point, no good would ever come out of Alex
Starting point is 01:02:37 going to Uvaldi. He wouldn't have sniffed out any truth or done any reporting. Even in the prime of his career, he wasn't capable of that. And now when he goes anywhere, it just ends up with him yelling at people and then misreporting the video of him yelling to create the whatever story he wants. For instance, you remember when he went down to the border and got in front of an immigrant charity vehicle? Yeah. Oh, yeah. He captured literally nothing on camera, but reported that he'd bravely put his body on the line to stop human trafficking when the video is mostly him complaining about seatbelt laws. That would be the best case scenario of him going to Uvaldi, some kind of disrespectful and self serving publicity stunt. Also, nothing about the buffalo
Starting point is 01:03:16 shooting. The shooter engaging with a retired federal agent indicates that there was provocaturing. If anything, it indicates that there's a retired federal agent who's a racist. Yeah. That's not signs of provocaturing, Alex. But he's bringing that in. And he's establishing that as a precedent that he can use to say that this was a false flag. Of course, it follows almost an identical path to the Aurora shooting being used in advance of Sandy Hook. There is a similar relationship here where Alex can talk about things that have to do with the Buffalo shooting and the provocaturing of it. And the audience is meant to imply it in their head. Sure. There's the direct connection that's being drawn. And as we know from listening back to a lot of the Sandy
Starting point is 01:04:01 Hook period, there were periods of time where he was not comfortable necessarily directly talking about Sandy Hook because of the horror of it. Right. So you'd say, it could be fake. Who knows? We know the Aurora one is fake. Yeah. And so it feels very similar. Yeah. It's a little bit like like the like a placemat, you know, like these two pictures find the things that are different about them. Like it is like he has two completely different pictures and he's like find the things that are the same about them. You know, sure, it's a completely different picture of a completely different person. But if you see they've got an earring, they both got earrings, it's the same thing. But what if one of the pictures, it doesn't have an earring, but what if you just draw an
Starting point is 01:04:44 earring? Well, then you've got a victory. Hey, what if you just imagine there's an earring? Well, then it's a lot easier to win the puzzle. What if you yell at anybody who tells you that there isn't an earring? Well, then you will be rich. Yeah, exactly. So look, it's not because he's getting sued that he did that. Of course not. I wouldn't assume that. I mean, he does say it a second time. Oh, if he said it a second time. I did not do it because I've been sued for asking questions. I still said Jesse Smollett and Bubba Wallace were staged and we still we think something stage sad. But I still kind of just stayed out of it because it's a toxic situation. And if it happens again like this, we won't be like that. So I subconsciously backed off of this.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Because it's it's so painful. I mean, who wants to be around something like that and the grieving parents and others? I'm not impressed that he would invalidate, you know, accusations of racist acts. That's not it's not surprising that he would call Jesse Smollett fake. And he still doesn't even actually even understand what happened in the Bubba Wallace situation. Nope. So he can, you know, claim that as a victory when it's just his knee jerk racism. So there's some real mixed signals going on in that clip. That's a man who has a background report that nobody even knows where it came from. Yeah, like a hundred something page long that he gives a shit about grieving. Yeah, I know that Alex is saying that his actions weren't influenced by
Starting point is 01:06:10 the fact that he's being sued for lying about an elementary school shooting. But everything he says after that makes me think that his actions were deeply influenced by the fact that he's being sued for lying about an elementary school shooting. Yeah, he says that he stayed out of it. And that if something like this happens again, his actions will be different. That heavily implies that there's something that was making him not cover the situation the way he wanted to. And I don't believe for a second it has anything to do with grieving parents. No, it was subconscious. It was subconscious. It wasn't conscious decision. He's shown nothing but disrespect for grieving families in the past. So that's a load of bullshit. Yep. Alex needs his audience to think that he's not
Starting point is 01:06:46 been weakened by the Sandy Hook cases. So he'll ultimately be as defensive as he needs to be about that issue on air. He won't ever directly say that he didn't want to get sued again. So he wasn't going to call the shooting fake because to do so would be to tell the audience that he's not authentic and he shifts his reporting based on personal whims. Now you might be thinking that he already said that he didn't cover this correctly because he had faith in the police in Texas and that's admitting the same thing. But here's the difference. In that case, the reason he covered it wrong is because he had a faith in things that the audience can get behind. They love the cops and they think Texas should be its own country. Yep. Conversely, in the case of Alex changing his
Starting point is 01:07:24 coverage because of fear of lawsuits, that's Alex being weak. That's him selling out. And if you accept that he did that, you have to accept that he might not cover all sorts of issues or might cover other stories knowingly, inaccurately because of some fear that he has about consequences that the system could inflict. How can Alex possibly be a person who's willing to die fighting the globalists if he's willing to fundamentally change his coverage out of fear of losing some money? It's completely knocked out the underpinnings of his own fake personality. Can not admit that he will change his behavior for anything. It doesn't matter how bad it is. It doesn't matter what it is. He can't say that I have learned a lesson because he's presented
Starting point is 01:08:08 himself to his audience as someone who can't learn lessons because they already know everything. And he can't learn lessons because he wasn't wrong. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And for him to then have to be wrong and afraid. I'm not going to follow that, dude. No. So I think that obviously the conclusion that we can come to is that he changed the way he covered this story out of a fear of getting sued again. Yep. And it's painfully obvious now to his audience and the way that things have gone with the changing statements and the timeline shifting and what have you. It's right in his sweet spot. And there's a glaring question of why didn't you. And now he kind of has to figure out a way to like be like, yeah, I really should have. Well, I trusted the
Starting point is 01:08:55 police. Yeah, this is such a weird situation for him. But I do I do think the way that you summed it up was pretty good that like I tried to tell the truth. I know it is that it really is it is him being like, man, this was the time for me to say it's a false flag, because legally they couldn't do shit. The cops are lying. So if you want to get on me, you got to sue them asses, you know, like that kind of thing. Sure. And there's many ways of, you know, accusing something of being fake that aren't legally actionable. Like there's plenty of ways he could have done that totally because of the circumstances that are surrounding him. Yeah. He is too gunshot. Yeah, you know, I think the irony of this is that because he didn't call it a
Starting point is 01:09:35 false flag, more people are going to stop listening to him. Maybe. Yeah, maybe. I think that what a coward. Yeah. Yeah. So look, you dropped the ball here. We dropped the ball. We gave the police the benefit of the doubt because it's Texas and the police have been under attack and I want to believe in the police, but the head police chief of the school district there is in hiding. He was already elected the city council. He won't talk to the press. He won't talk to the state police for Texas Rangers. He won't talk to the feds. And who knows what happened because it turns out there weren't police in there for an hour. It turns out they weren't outside the barricaded door. They now say none of that was true. So what the normal media did was give the police the benefit
Starting point is 01:10:24 of the doubt. That's not what Alex did. Also, I have no idea what he's saying that there were no police at the school. I or like that's not accurate at all. I mean, but now we're creating a new thing. Yeah. Now we're free. I've said I've apologized for not calling it a false flag. Now I'm free to make up whatever bullshit I want and almost spitefully. I'm looking at the comment section on this video because Alex released this section as a standalone thing on bad video. It's Alex Jones admits he was wrong about you've already shooting. And going through somebody. I heard there are no birth records for those kids in you've already. Is that true? We're cooking. There we go. Now we're getting it getting some of these. Now it's happening breadcrumbs. A lot
Starting point is 01:11:08 of shout outs for Steve Pachanik. Wow. I guess Las Vegas is didn't happen. I guess we're going to bring that back. Oh my God. Is Steve Pachanik going to come back and talk about this? Maybe. Wow. Wow. The door seems open. It is. It's wide open now based on the comment section. Holy shit. And I think you can you can get a little bit of a temperature. Nobody died. That's another comment. Great. Great. Yep. Mm hmm. Yeah. These are all people who are like finally he's going to claim it's a false flag now. I'm going to be a bit of excitement. I'm going to feel so smart because I'm smarter than Alex. Right. Yep. I hope that leads to some good stuff. Non retention. You would hope. So look you want he's now shifting things and now Alex is blaming these police.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Good. On what planet do we live for 70 plus minutes hundreds of police stand around sitting on their hands. That's a nice way of saying it. That's a less nice way of saying it because the head cop of the school district said so. Who it turns out wasn't in radio communication and who it turns out wasn't even on the scene. That's dereliction of duty. That is serious negligence and I want him indicted for negligence and I want him indicted for fraud and I want everybody else that lied in trouble because if we don't keep the police. Yeah. Tell me tell me what tell me what that doesn't mean when the left goes after for no
Starting point is 01:12:52 reason but this is shameful and this is disgusting. So it strikes me that this is ultimately completely thin and false and I think there are two contributing factors for that. One Alex exaggerates everything because he desperately wants to make his show more interesting and two Alex feels the need to exaggerate this situation so it makes his audience more able to criticize the police by using hyperbole. Alex is able to distinguish his complaints about the situation from the complaints his audience might hear from the left or the mainstream media or people who are supposed to be globalists because when they criticize the police response Alex wants to have something distinctive from them in order to to provide that above all despite
Starting point is 01:13:34 oh sorry no good. I've just despite the fact that right now we can all across ideological lines agree the cops fucked up. I think we can all agree that there's definitely very very strong indications of that and there should be a thorough investigation of what happened. Right but Alex still can't agree with that. No it has to be something different. It needs to be more extreme. It needs to be above that and it needs to be a narrative of his own. For instance Alex says that the commander wasn't even there which isn't true. Sure. Pete Arradondo was on the scene and he was one of the first inside the school. He didn't have his radio with him but part of his explanation for that was that he didn't think that he was the commander on scene and that some
Starting point is 01:14:18 other agency was taking the lead and he was supposed to be there acting as a first responder. Right. Now whether or not you believe that or not or think that that's appropriate or not that is an explanation that he is given for why he didn't have a radio. True. And then Alex is just completely wrong about him not being there. Yeah. Yeah he's wrong about that. Yeah. They're very valid and productive arguments to make against the police response that could in theory lead to discussions about how to improve things but Alex's critiques are mostly surrounding fake issues. If you're a listener of this show and you hear indignation about how the police chief wasn't even there you're going to be poorly prepared to have a conversation about this.
Starting point is 01:14:53 Whatever points you're going to try to make about the police response probably aren't going to be taken too seriously if he wasn't even there was part of the it's part of your list of grievances. Right. People are just like oh you don't you don't know what you're talking about. Well I mean that's that's a good one though to put in there early because that'll be real good when you claim it's a false flag. Like the guy who was telling people to stand down wasn't even there. Right. And then he lied and said he was there. Obviously that's a false flag. You know that makes sense. Sure. I mean it'll just be it's going to be good but it'll be there. No. And I honestly want to say that I think that there's a very decent chance that Alex doesn't pursue this line too much
Starting point is 01:15:33 further. Yeah. Like I don't know if there's much of a market for him now in a conspiracy theory but there is some in establishing a new narrative surrounding this so if something else happens down the road he can be on the Alex Jones side of this as opposed to the weird side right that he's been on here. Yeah. So look man there might be a conspiracy going on. Oh finally. Yeah. Finally. But this is shameful and this is disgusting and quite frankly who the hell knows what happened. I'm really suspicious now of this police chief. I'm really suspicious of the whole thing and the timing and the midterms and all of it and you got the like the midterms with the feds and all of it and that's being covered up. Is the average cop like supremacists working
Starting point is 01:16:20 with the feds is being covered up. His mom said better instincts. Yeah. So you have you have this storyline about the buffalo shooting. Yep. And he's working with the feds and this is being covered up. Right. The timing the midterms midterms. Yeah. So you're getting you're getting all these pieces of the standard Info Wars false flag conspiracy starting to gravitate and circle around. Yeah. This story and I mean honestly it's just sad because we all knew we were going to get here. I know. Yeah. I mean you remember like you were you're confused for a second about like he wants to call this a false fly. Oh yeah. Absolutely. I knew this was inevitable. You could feel it in his words like I you while he was talking you could feel his shoulders start to shake when it
Starting point is 01:17:05 like like he tried to get it out. There's a there's a very similar dynamic to when like before Stefan Malinu said that he was a white nationalist like everybody's like can you just get to the point where you say this is the white nationalist already. Let's go to Poland. Just come out with it. Yeah. And now Alex has come out with his is maybe this is a false flag. There's a conspiracy going on the timing the midterms the mid buffalo shooting the feds cover up. It's all there man. He has come up with bullshit and connected those bullshits in order to create the appearance of a conspiracy but the tax that he's putting into this board aren't real and the string is fake. It's all nonsense. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:49 This is going to go down as one of the more surreal couple of weeks of Info Wars coverage in their entire history. Probably because they were trying to tell the truth. I mean I think I agree with you but it's too generous to say trying to tell I understand there were still some bullshit. They were trying to they were trying to do a better based on what we would describe as better job of journalism. So Alex is ashamed of himself. But that's not all. There's also a state nay a country that he's ashamed of which one I am so ashamed Luxembourg of Texas. Oh country. And I'm pissed. Now I don't know what went on down there. But for all we know it could be MK ultra for all we know my god yet again man just like the Whitmer
Starting point is 01:18:45 case I thought was staged turned out it was all fake. We need to find out what the hell's going on. Yeah. So we're back to you know before pizza gates they've got to got to figure out what's going on with this stuff. Sandy Hook same thing. Get to the bottom of this. Yeah. The Whitmer thing wasn't all fake. Nope. But you can also see that is part of now the constellation of things that he's bringing in. And while he's talking about the Uvaldi shooting he's bringing in these other things that are safe for him to say are fake in order for him to sort of transpose the fakeness onto the Uvaldi shooting until it's more safe for him to actually right fully say that I don't have to say this is fake. I've established a career of saying things are fake. So if I just
Starting point is 01:19:37 imply you got it. Yeah. You fucking it's very transparent. So we have one last clip here and it's Alex getting pretty mad and the police followed the criminal orders of that police chief who needs to be in handcuffs right now. Hey I want you arrested now. Arrest that son of a bitch right now. Right now. No more of this crap. I bitched out Florida for standing out for 14 minutes. Texas stands down for over 70 shameful hashtag shameful. Wow. Shameful. That's that's strong words. Strong words from a man with a big vocabulary. Sad. Boo again. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like this is meant to be an apology correction. Sure. And what it ends up really being is I knew I was right about this and I didn't say it because I something but it's not the lawsuit.
Starting point is 01:20:38 And you know it was really to blame the media and the police. Yeah. They did me dirty. I'm always right still. Yeah. You can't apologize and be vindicated simultaneously. That is not how that goes. It does on enforce baby. That is true. It's true. You're right. I am apologizing because I was too right all the time. Yeah. I apologize for being self aggrandizing right now but I won't. But you know I think there is something very very fascinating about this dynamic that is you know on a certain level when Alex makes things up it's full of shit and irresponsible and dangerous. And when he tries to do what normal reporters might do he can't and he still fucks it up. Yep. And we end up here. It's like it's like somebody was taking a baby step towards
Starting point is 01:21:33 learning a lesson. You know like okay I got it. I'm Sandy Hook is going to fuck my brain out so guess what I'm going to do. I'm going to button down. I'm going to really try on this one. And I know your your face says that no but I'm giving you that's not what the look was. I'm giving you the look was that the lesson isn't or it shouldn't be Sandy Hook is going to ruin me. It should be what I did was wrong. Exactly. Exactly. He learned the wrong lesson and then applied it and then learned another wrong lesson which was I should have just been an asshole. Right. I should have just been a slightly different kind of asshole because I've betrayed my brand and now I have to explain why I didn't do the thing that everybody knew I was going to do eventually. Of course.
Starting point is 01:22:19 Yeah. That sucks. Yeah. This is what happens when conspiracy theorists are brought low. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean what tangled webs we weave doesn't even come close to handling this shit. Shakespeare was a moron if he thinks that meant anything when Alex is in the in the fucking web. Very very sad. Yeah. Shameful. Shameful. So I think you know I'm not I'm not sure it was as revelatory as some other things that I got mad at Florida. Right. I got mad at Florida. Right. The state of Florida. Yeah. The whole thing I was I was sent out my I'm pissed off at Florida. Florida. I got him. We're going to sell you back to Spain. Yeah. Also the rest of the show is Alex interviewing the having on the guy who's a tax weirdo. I believe it's the guy who runs his
Starting point is 01:23:12 Info Wars tax help or whatever. Sure. Sure. So it's just brokered content. Yeah. Tax stuff. Yeah. But yeah. I don't know if this is as educational necessarily as some other things that we've you know focused in moron. But I do think that there is pretty complete an arc. Yeah. Yeah. That has happened since the the the shooting and it did go differently than a lot of times in Alex's career based on exactly what you're describing as him trying to tell the truth. Yeah. And you see that all roads lead to Rome and Rome is calling. It's calling. Yep. Yep. Kind of depressing. You know I mean this wasn't so much like the information heavy as it was almost a character study. You know this is a slice of life kind of what happens whenever
Starting point is 01:24:04 people stop you know acting fake and start getting real. So is real world Austin. I'm pretty sure that's what that was a season I think. Oh I can't remember who was on that. Probably somebody cool. Nope. Never mind. No. I can't remember what season is what. Anyway Jordan we will be back for another episode in the post Alex apology world. But until then we have a website. We do it's knowledge fight dot com. Yep. We're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's that knowledge of the fight and I go to bed Jordan. Yep. We'll be back. But until then I'm Leo. I'm Leo MDZ X Clark. I hope you all have a dreamy creamy summer. And now here comes the sex robot Andy and Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding.
Starting point is 01:24:48 Hello Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.

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