Knowledge Fight - #693: August 4, 2003

Episode Date: June 20, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan dip back to the past to check in on Alex's roots.  In this installment, Alex clarifies his position on the death penalty, gets all worked up about an op-ed, and dreadfully misreports the details of a 1982 bank robbery. Citations

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge I'm a huge fan and I love your work knowledge fight knowledge fight I love you hey everybody welcome back knowledge fight I'm dad I'm Jordan we're a couple dudes like sit around worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Joe oh indeed we are Dan Jordan Dan Jordan quick question so my bright spot Jordan is the dreamy creamy summer continues to march along indeed and hey I got a cheers and jeers for you okay yeah okay and it's to the same people okay oh no you're coming after Talente oh you're coming after gelato now this is a

different story first of all I mean it's tired territory the it's it they're impossible to open you have to cut open the fucking container yes the worst this complaint has been made but I was considering doing a Talente week and you know going over it all the flavors sure finding and separating the wheat from the chaff right but I realized like there's some flavors I don't even really want to try like what I think there's one that's like a birthday cake thing yeah birthday cake guy I I don't know I mean I had that birthday cake ice cream sandwich that was just like frosting flavor exactly that was

disgusting yeah it was fondant yeah yeah so I I abandoned that but I did try to mm-hmm and that's the cheers and the cheers got you the cheers is to the salted caramel layered oh I should say these are all the layered those of the parfaits sort of yeah yeah and so it's got like caramel chocolate cup layer yeah yeah good good strong good stuff yeah then there's a peanut butter one that I thought was gonna be great it's peanut butter you can't go wrong with peanut butter it was it was quite bad that's amazing yeah yeah it's horrific I ate a little bit of it and I am not going to finish it that's that's a testament wow

I and look I don't I do hold to Lenti responsible for this that they made it yeah but you know I'm not too mad at you cuz some of these other ones are all right and the ones that I don't want to try like birthday cake I'm never gonna try right right right so anyway cheers to you but also a little jeers that's fun peanut butter one is disappointing I've never had it normally I would have had it cuz I'm a big peanut butter person but in ice cream terms my partner she's allergic to peanuts so we never have ice cream ice cream in the house with that type of flavor so I've never gotten it so that's it's good to

know that I can just skip to Lenti's bullshit peanut butter yeah just to be clear this is the peanut butter crunch okay the yeah the layers blah boo that's a big jeers my bright spot is yesterday my family did a classic platter of celebrations you know okay little sister's birthday my grandfather's turn in a hundred Centennial you know there's you know there's a wedding you know my partner and I got married and like it was just take your pick of what you wanted to celebrate we'll all get together on a day we'll bang it out get it done you know and it worked it was good stuff good to get it all taken care

of bang it out you know none of this like oh we'll see you on Tuesday and then Friday nope get it done we'll see in four months sweet yep I like it I think a lot of other people probably would rather see their family more often but I understand your situation and I you know I know what you're coming from yeah that's good though yeah what was their cake uh no no was their birthday cake to Lenti no there was not there wasn't even there were there I think there might have been cake but it was never brought out and all we had around were just candles because you would assume like they were gonna try and do the hundred

candles thing yeah but I think they just quit on that halfway through because there's a ton of candles around and no cake anywhere so I think they just bailed on it disappointing yeah so Jordan today we have an episode to talk about okay we are going to be going back to the past we'll be talking about August 4th 2003 okay man so there's some reasons to it of course first Alex is still on his work vacation that he's been on so he'll probably be we're recording this on Sunday I would guess he'll be back on his show today on Sunday but soon we won't have time to flip that around until Wednesday so we'll check in with him

when he's back simultaneously I think there's a project Camelot episode that could be made but it might be too deep a well of crazy to get it done in time and man I have lost my interest in Russell Brandt that is unsurprising I think I think that there is possibly an episode in like covering him yeah but he bores me yeah no I saw get him to the Greek I'm good yeah I had enough I artificially convinced myself like ooh there's something really fascinating here and the more I watched of him the more I thought nah not really no yeah do you know what it was he's just famous yeah yeah and I get kind of annoyed

too because his his videos on YouTube they constantly have clickbait ass titles like so it begins oh my god just over and over again like you're a fucking joke anyway yeah it's kind of boring yeah so we're back in the past and you know there's some stuff going on Alex has some feelings about the Iraq War it's as bathification re is it re bathification no update on that no nothing the bath party is still in control in play as according to Alex gotcha man we'll get down to business on this but first let's take a little moment say hello to some new walks all this great idea so first you won't believe

which letter Alex can't pronounce anymore thank you so much you're now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thank you very much next Lance pants list thank you so much you're now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thank you very much thank you next is a quick break so that Jordan can take off his t-shirt and nestle himself in my beard no idea what that means thank you so much you're now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thank you very much I can fit like a pen yeah or a joint in the past like when you smoke sure sure yeah yeah you hide that I could hide a joint in my beard and sneak it into a concert yeah but a human that's

too much no no your chest hair on the other hand I could bury myself in that there's no doubt heartbeat next a little dabby for me wait why are we at the capital thank you so much you're now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thank you very much thank you and candy and answers thank you so much you're now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thank you very much and we got a couple of technocrats here Jordan so first Henry not Hank but be that as it may I declare myself the 74th sorts of fall thank you so much you're now a technocrat and thank you Dan and Jordan that's it that's the name thank you you're now a technocrat

I'm a policy wonk I have risen above my enemies I might quit tomorrow actually I'm just gonna take a little break you down a little break II for me and then we're going to come back and I'm gonna start the show over but I'm the devil I gotta be taken out there I mean all this blue blue blue blue fuck you fuck you I got plenty of words for you but at the end of the day fuck you in your new world order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit maybe today should be my last broadcast I mean maybe I'll just be gone a month maybe five years maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again

that's really what I want to do I never want to come back here again I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air I'll be better tomorrow he's not oh even in the past even I mean that's not true compared to the present he's somewhat better sure but there's a couple of things actually they get revealed over the course of this episode that are like man you've had some really fucked up positions for a pretty long time and you've just done a pretty good job of obscuring yeah so we start off here on August 4th and Alex is talking about a what do you know a gun

bill no certainly this is going to be one of the most serious situations ever I'm going to cover something that I went over several years ago I hovered this three years ago on air during the election and I informed the listeners that I would not be voting for Al Gore then I would not be voting for George W. Bush because they are carbon copies of each other when it comes to their actions not their rhetoric and people had trouble believing the policy of Bush that he would reauthorize the assault weapons ban and expand it he told you what he was going to do to you and I had a lot of callers who

denied it at the time as I would read excerpts of Lord Bush's speeches here on the air well I have the NRA fact sheet here and it's NRAILA.org that's the NRA legislative alert website and it's most sweeping gun ban ever introduced in Congress Clinton gun ban reenactment ban bans millions more and right here bans all that's their their quote all semi-automatic shotguns they even have a link to the subsection a banning I mean shotguns that hold two rounds hoods everything we're talking everything and I try to explain this to people and I have been shouted down on radio shows by people that call in and

say I'm a liar so just keep living in your fruitcake land this bill has a very good chance of passing and I'm sick and tired of the total denial by you people I mean it makes me sick and I'm not talking about our general listeners but the types that are driving along in their cars listening to this show for the first time and so I was thinking about 2000 yeah and he's not gonna support Gore or Bush no so like obviously he's not gonna support Bill Bradley who's in the primaries against Gore yeah that wasn't happening so but like he's not gonna support McCain because McCain was against Bush in the primaries so Alan

Keyes was the other candidate I think in the GOP primaries I know that Alan Keyes and him have come together on some things yeah and Alan Keyes has co-host guest hosted in the wars of the past year but you know that is that is the that is the worst part of 2000 now that I remember it is we don't we didn't have that Republican primary cavalcade debate stage you know where we had 16 different Republicans saying dumb nonsense at each other yeah back then it was just three or four guys and they were all stupid the same way well you had a number of folks but they withdrew like before the primaries started a bunch

people like exploratory campaign sure sure shit but yeah it was just Pap you can and was trying to run again yes of course he was Donald Trump explored the idea exactly yeah yeah we just had McCain keys and Bush yeah it it for functions a little bit better I think than a hundred people on stage yeah but it's less entertaining sure it's more informative I might not be what we're going for oh yeah that's right so this bill that Alex is talking about this gun bill it did not pass as has been the case with literally any proposed gun bill that's come up that Alex has insisted is about to pass and would lead

to door-to-door confiscations of everything all the way up to a child's pop gun one of the great consistent trends you notice when you go back and listen to info wars from the past is that every proposed gun bill is apocalyptic and all of them are set to be passed any day now it's ridiculous as an act and it's weird that it never gets old for the listeners Bush never did any of the stuff Alex is claiming he was going to he let the Clinton assault weapons ban laps he didn't champion any other gun legislation but it does kind of make sense for Alex to think that he might primarily because he's clearly

just getting talking points from the NRA's press releases and in the interest of total fairness as recently as May 2003 the White House had commented that Bush supported extending the 1994 gun bill the thing is that in the real world Bush can't just do that on his own it would need to be passed by Congress Alex subscribes to a very narrow strongman theory about the world and thus because Bush said he's in favor of one thing it must be the case that it's going to come to pass after the 2002 midterms there was a 51 49 Republican majority in the Senate and a 229 to 204 Republican majority in the house it

was safe for Bush to signal support to the idea of gun control in order to sway independence to the right while being entirely comfortable that no gun bill had any chance of making it through either House of Congress it's the governmental equivalent of having your cake and eating it to basically is where he was going yeah yeah absolutely I support this thing that I know is impossible to happen yes I will never do anything to fix that I will sign this thing that is essentially impossible yeah no kidding I will sign this unicorns face the moment you put it in front of me I promise you that yeah yeah in the

2000 GOP primary Bush's whole brand was meant to be compassionate conservatism and part of that is not having this hard-line gun absolutism you would think an element of that strategy was probably informed by the fact that he was running against John McCain who had a far more outsider character than Bush and appealed to a ton more voters that were closer to the center and he had military history so you can't fight him on that front mm-hmm there was no way Bush could win the election just off the support of the fringe right so he tempered his conservatism as a strategy one might argue that he had some

actual inclination toward reforming gun laws but that seems like bullshit to me the NRA loudly endorsed Bush in 2004 and they actually strategically withheld their endorsement of him in the 2000 election because according to the New York Times quote polls suggest that the NRA well popular in many Republican areas is viewed negatively by large numbers of independent suburban voters who mr. Bush is trying to court particularly women that was a sincere concern in 2000 for a new candidate but much less so by 2004 when Bush was the incumbent while they were keeping their love of bush quiet on the surface they

also the NRA had a vice president who said that if Bush got elected quote we'll have a president where we work out of their office yeah so this this notion is is a loaded it's a load of bullshit but Alex is taking it face value some like basically political maneuvering that bush is doing in terms of placing himself in a place where right independent voters could be drawn towards him and there's no actual consequence right to the which though is exactly what bush would want him to do like that's the strategy yes make Alex look like the conservative nut bag compared to your compassionate

conservative not baggery if you if you will and by rallying the like really far right in a certain direction you kind of make sure that the status quo remains the same and that gun bill never makes it to your desk that you never have to sign and let's be real with you those right-wing lunatics if they vote they're still gonna vote for him of course what are they gonna vote for Bill Bradley a vote for somebody else get the fuck out of here yeah they're gonna vote for Al Gore yeah yeah you can pencil them in whenever you want Ron Paul wasn't a factor in that a lot yeah yeah so there's more more talk of this gun

bill it's basically one of his his primary points coming up later in this hour I'm gonna engage in liberal socialist evil on the air I'm going to warn you about the most sweeping gun control ever again that's not conservative that's bad according to Ann Coulter and others who've been on this show a real conservative talks about mindless issues and how stupid Hillary is all day while voting with Hillary for gun control while voting for Hillary to invade sovereign innocent countries you you have to vote with Hillary almost identical record and then walk around talking about how conservative you are

really be conservative if you're actually pro-gun or pro-sovereignty or against open borders that is very very bad and we're in the very very bad camp here on this show and you know I'm learning how to be a good neocon here and I'm apologizing that I actually don't want to turn my shotguns in the most sweeping gun ban ever introduced in Congress Clinton gun ban reenactment ban millions more guns HR 2038 and it is representative Carolyn McCarthy is not just reenact or reauthorized 94 Clinton ban but the so-called Sullivan ban law it bans millions more guns and it begins the back go registration of

guns so this bill HR 2038 was introduced on May 8th 2003 three months prior to this episode that we're listening to right now I was my birthday hey happy birthday thanks it's saddened committee and literally nothing had been done to move it any closer to passing since your birthday that's been a lot like my birthday on September 28th 2004 a motion was filed titled house resolution 769 which sought to bring HR 2038 to immediate consideration on the house floor these sorts of discharge petitions require 218 signatures to pass how many do you think this one got 30 72 a little shy at the point Alex is on

air pretending he's covering a news story about a bill that's a real threat to gun ownership he should have every reason to know that this is a dead bill already this isn't news or analysis it's manufacturing a threat to scare your audience into thinking someone's on their way to take your guns relying entirely on I guess a press release from the NRA yeah great yeah one weird thing about going back into the past so often is remembering that at that time period I did not have the tools necessary to like understand how stupid and transparent all of this really was you know like there were so many things back in 2003 I

think I think I was in a such a conservative family after 9-11 I was one of those people who's like yeah 94% of people should support Bush it's a good thing I was 12 at the time sure that's better could yeah I can't really affect the political process really do much there yeah I don't know yeah I mean I think I think you know I look back and there was a period I wasn't even in like a really conservative family sure but I would listen to conservative talk radio a lot and you know with the passive nature of listening to it yeah I thought like Sean Hannity had a legitimate point sure maybe not that he was right yeah

but like absolutely he said absolutely I'd listen to Neil Bortz and I'd be like yeah this guy's good he's got some thoughts right I wouldn't immediately say oh these people are lying to make millions of dollars and it's that easy yeah yeah yep yeah it's a different time it's wistful it is almost like a cartoon yeah so Alex has some big news about personnel in the White House by the way the Secretary of State Colin Powell is a globalist and is bad enough but he's on the way out by the way they're gonna put another Trotskyite directly in that position Powell was the only one that didn't have a Trotskyite

background though he has a a black ops background in Vietnam and in the Iran Contra scam and activities oh before I get a hundred emails that I'm racist black ops a secret government program all right all right so Colin Powell wasn't really on his way out he stayed in office until 2005 when he resigned possibly at Bush's request at the start of Bush's second term right he was replaced by Condoleezza Rice who Alex hasn't mentioned up till this point and I don't know if he thinks she's a Trotskyite also it's weird to imagine that Alex's listeners are the kind of people who could be so sensitive to covert

racism and simultaneously unaware of what black ops are to the point where he could sincerely think anyone would send him an email about that yeah someone possibly should send him an email about his obsession with the mysterious secret Trotskyites and how that sounds suspiciously anti-semitic though I think maybe maybe that deserves an email yeah it would be it would have been very interesting if Colin Powell was a Trotskyite that would have that would have changed things a great deal as opposed to being a lying war criminal that does change things yes yeah yeah so look man there's thought police sure

sure and they're gonna be mad that Alex black ops listen to this clip because this is all in Alex's head yeah fascinating guy so I got I've got to watch it here that I don't commit thought crimes on the air gotta be very careful this politically correct world I could be arrested for what I just said talking about Colin Powell involved in secret government budget programs here we'll say it like that I was talking about more like I was last week when Mr. Poindexter the convicted felon the old white guy I said was involved in big black ops and black budgets I could say that about Poindexter but I better be

careful about saying Colin Powell was involved in in black budget ops because there's no pun intended okay but that's the insanity of the thought police in America today folks this is all in Alex's head he's getting mad about imaginary people having a completely absurd response to something he's saying and portraying himself as the victim of these imaginary people somehow and here's the reason he's doing this Alex wants to inoculate his audience to the possibility of them hearing people accuse him of being a racist a lot of his content is flagrantly racist and he understands that on some level so he

knows that it's inevitable that people who listen to his show will end up hearing things from other people hold on he's racist that is racist as shit I agree with you mm-hmm yeah the goal here is for Alex to take a completely obvious example of something that isn't racist but includes a trigger word that he can pretend someone will call him racist for saying in this case black he pretends the people will say he's racist for saying things like black ops so if a listener hears someone accuse Alex of saying something racist their immediate response will be like oh sure like how he said that everybody said he

was a racist because he used the word black ops sure yeah it gives them that kind of a defensive posture I mean it really is exactly like how they think vaccinations work where it's like okay I'll take a little bit of inert false racism and kind of make you immune to that and so then whenever the real racism hits you're like I'm already prepared yeah 100% yeah but I think I think it's more for them to be able to withstand criticism from their friends and family who might be like hey that stuff you're listening to sure pretty fucked up hey you remember all the things that he didn't say about Jews

because he uses the word globalists imagine we're talking yeah exactly yeah yeah come on buddy yeah put two and two together who so Alex has a big news source and this is this is the other thing that takes up I would say a large part of his content within the show sure you have the gun bill that is not to be but is the biggest threat in the world illusion you have a bunch of phone calls and then you have this story okay but jumping back into the news thinking outside the US and it's a lengthy Washington Post article that happily announces that our Supreme Court now is getting its walking orders from the

European criminal court this is not a lengthy article it would be less than a page of text but it might appear longer because Alex just prints out websites and the formatting there could make it look larger my god and longer he hasn't read it so he has no idea how long it is or what it's even about this is an op-ed about how Supreme Court justices have appealed to legal ideas from other countries or legal bodies and their decisions notably about you know one of the things they bring up is the recent case Lawrence versus Texas which invalidated sodomy laws in the country and made same-sex relationships legal

across the board that happened in 2003 and if Alex and his buddies have their way it will be overturned I mean it's on the Texas GOP's statement of intent like we're going to criminalize homosexuality Lawrence versus Texas Texas gonna take that back to court yeah oh man it's so crazy they've got like a six-three majority in the supreme oh man that's crazy yeah and and it is wild to just you know really wrestle with the reality that that decision was in 2003 yeah it was 20 years ago that's not far back enough yeah that's very recent yeah yeah no in a year that begins with a two yeah they could break into your home if

you were gay and then arrest you for just being there that law would not be impossible to make in the US wild yep anyway Justice Kennedy's opinion included a point that quote the courts passed approval of sodomy bans was out of step with the law in other Western democracies and made mention of the European Court of Human Rights this is not the same as the Supreme Court being told what to do by other international bodies but it's a fascinating and really depressing thing to think about this op-ed makes the point that traditionally the United States has seen itself as the innovator in the world in terms of

freedom and human rights but that the country quote now has much to learn from the rapidly developing constitutional traditions of other democracies oh we've abdicated our place don't know if Alex thinks that's the same thing as getting your marching orders no no yeah and these examples that they use in this article are not like hey the bedrock of my argument relies on a precedent of this European court yeah it's just pointing that out in the opinions of like hey also everybody else doesn't do this crazy nonsense I it would be nice if there were more Supreme Court opinions that just boil down to we're a

bunch of barbarians aren't we this is fucked conservative legal scholars are largely opposed to even citing international opinion in terms of the Supreme Court but it's important to recognize that this isn't the first time it's happened nor is it really that groundbreaking conservatives like Alex hate it though legal experts in this article aren't thrilled with the thing quote when the court starts taking things like that into account it reveals itself as more interested in making policy than interpreting the fixed text of the Constitution or statutes that was a quote from John Yoo the guy who

worked in Bush's Attorney General's office who's most remembered for his memos that he wrote justifying torture yeah in the war on terror Alex is in league with that legal mind well that's why he didn't take it to the Supreme Court because they would have tried to make policy against no it's terrible big picture this is an editorial that someone wrote about an interesting thing to think about as it relates to the Supreme Court it's not hard news and it doesn't say anything or prove anything about the court being under the control of some foreign body Alex doesn't read any of the stuff he

covers though so he's just reading the headline and skimming the first few sentences and making up the rest of suit his purposes as always but it also goes wrong because he tries to read the article on air and unfortunately it doesn't really go his way yeah so here he is beginning to read that article thinking outside the US the Supreme Court is going global and not just in the sense that several of its justices have embarked on their annual summer voyages to European destinations ha see how it's cute and funny yeah it's cutely written because it's an op-ed it's written by someone who's trying to

engage the reader in something less formal than news copy yeah I sincerely don't think Alex knows the difference between opinion and fact based reporting does not in 2003 or even in the present day I think he still doesn't know he's legitimately trying to pretend that this op-ed in the Washington Post is announcing that the Supreme Court is under the control of international bodies that's one of his top stories and this is his only source yeah that's wild it's well what they're doing is they're soft launching it through op-eds I mean if he made that argument I would say that's stupid right

um at least well but then it would be sort of honest about the point he was trying to make right it would just come off as like are you fucking saying yeah so unfortunately he keeps reading oh no and the presentation that he's trying to make is that this is announcing right our courts are under the control of like the European Court sure human rights sure what have you but because he keeps reading he gets to the point where they talk about how bunch people aren't into this right and that that doesn't go well well here's the thing he just ignores it oh he just pretends that he's not reading stuff that's critical of the

Supreme Court considering European thought that is powerful stuff yes I did not know you could just do that 50 60 articles here in front of me and here's just one of them and it's out of the Washington Post and they admit that the court is following the edicts of several European courts and several global courts that have been set up and at the end of the article they say oh well it's cuz the justices travel more than they used to and every summer they all go visit with their friends in Europe yeah folks the chief justice and others have gone to Bilderberg group meetings and they're getting their

walking orders and the article that I'm reading from and I wish I had a computer screen up on it because I printed it in the non printer friendly version it's hard to read here but it says a conservative legal scholars who regard the courts use of international legal sources as an intellectually a amorphous endeavor that would subject citizens to the decisions of foreign legal institutions when the court starts taking these into account it reveals itself as more interested in making policy than interpreting the Constitution of the statutes said John C. U. a former Bush administration

advisor in international law but he just lost the University of California at Berkeley and it goes on to say citing his words from the court's provision previous death penalty case they wrote they must never forget that it was the Constitution of the United States of America that we are expounding on whether it is not first to settle consensus among our own people or of other nations however enlightened the justices of this country may think they can be they could not oppose that upon the American people through the Constitution and it's a bunch of other hyperbole that that's not the right word is I'm and getting

rid of our sovereignty see how they did it what we went to court and and calmly announced in the Washington Post in USA today and all their legal speak that oh yeah we're changing our jurisprudence we're we're gonna follow the European model and it's it's wild that's not fair he completely ignores reading this article that's not you can't do that and that stuff where he's like and that it's a bunch of hyperbole and they say it's about globalism and taking our sovereignty that's not it the fucking article yeah it's it's legitimately unthinkable to me that someone could get away with

being this transparently bad yeah doing what they're pretending to do and people just are like yeah yeah yeah this guy this guy's making sense no if you listen to the words he's saying this is convoluted that is textbook abuse that is a literal person telling you something that just happened is not what you saw mm-hmm that's the definition of gaslighting it doesn't get more that this article is announcing that the court is under the control of the Europeans but also I just read two minutes of conversation legal scholars who hate it yeah yeah the people who are making the argument that I was literally making

about this article are making it in the article right and there's like a whole bunch of that article too about like how Scalia is really against this like people even citing yeah as a as a reference sure like yeah this is stupid it is absurd to live in a world with the internet and then I think that the Supreme Court is just going to never look out at it the other legal scholars anywhere else that's ridiculous so we get to Alex talking about death penalty stuff and this is one of the questions that I I've always had you know with Alex that I think is like it's weird like his position on the death penalty

has always been strange to me because at times he seemed to be against it which makes sense based on his sort of political and philosophical beliefs but then other times he's been in favor of it and that's been confusing to me right and in this clip he kind of spells out what his thoughts are and they're disappointing let's break down what's happening three years ago they executed two German immigrants illegal aliens by the way who went into a bank and shot and killed three people and there were hundreds of witnesses in and out of the bank it was a busy bank they were caught on the surveillance tapes

doing it the police surrounded the bank they gave up and they were given the death penalty out in Arizona and they were executed which is a good thing I mean when you got somebody caught red-handed with witnesses and video of it I think there needs to be a high standard for the death penalty but when it's when you got that much evidence executed I do not believe you should be able to go on it off DNA or FBI crime labs or government witnesses it has to be individual witnesses because the government is totally corrupt but I am what penalty if it is if you have multiple independent witnesses added

with video tape and then it and then admissions but again side issue that's a really illuminating clip because it shows clearly how Alex's position on the death penalty isn't based on any moral principle it's only really the objection that he has is that he doesn't trust the government with producing evidence it's not a moral objection it's strictly logistical which doesn't make a whole lot of sense and it makes me think that Alex hasn't thought through this position very much for him it should be a primary concern whether or not the state has the ability to take a person's life for committing a crime yeah why

would you want to vest that kind of power in the hands of the very thing you consider your sworn enemy and you think has been taken over by globalists I could see Alex being in favor of the sheriff getting a posse together and taking out a suspected murderer before they're even arrested yeah but the position he's laying out on air is at odds with how he presents himself and his school of thought the things that he says would meet his high standard of proof which would justify the death penalty aren't concrete pieces of evidence eyewitness accounts are notoriously inaccurate so basing an

execution on that seems pretty unwise absurd Alex should think that confessions are often suspect because they could be coerced out of people by overzealous police yeah so you wouldn't want to you know necessarily use that solely as the basis for an execution that is not concrete information video tape is all good and well but often inconclusive in terms of being able to identify people you know it's probably fairly rare that that's going to be solely what you're able to convict somebody yeah yeah Alex supports the death penalty in principle because he believes in violent retribution what he's

laying out here is just a list of types of evidence he looks for to make peace with it inside his head yeah it's ridiculous he thinks the people who do things should have violent consequences yeah I don't I mean his his like I don't trust the government to do this however I do think that a judge and a courtroom should decide what yeah what are you fucking talking about right and it's this dumb idea that I think a lot of people in Alex's milieu have and I honestly think that maybe there's even a little bit of this mentality on the left that you know maybe isn't helpful but it's that like the government is

somehow a thing like the government is people yeah it's people who work yeah government yeah it's it's not like if you have a witness who is I don't know works for the IRS or something there's still a person right no they're the government right they're there as a gut see what happens is they don't capitalize their names okay so then they're beholden to the government because of $600,000 in leans placed upon their name at birth I buy a maritime law this all makes it all makes sense yeah it's all coming together so the story of the German bank robbers is being a little bit misreported by Alex here this is

about brothers Walter and Carl LeGrand who were executed by the state of Arizona in 1999 for a bank robbery that went wrong back in 1982 they weren't illegal immigrants the way Alex is trying to present the situation they were born in Germany but their mother had fled to the United States when one brother was four and the other was five they'd essentially lived here their whole lives but they'd never become US citizens the brothers were robbers by trade and the bank robbery had happened just after they'd been released from prison for robbing a string of supermarkets in Tucson the year before

they were trying to rob the Valley National Bank in Marana Arizona and Alex has almost all of the details of this crime wrong they showed up before the bank opened and there were no customers there they didn't shoot anyone because the gun they had was a toy gun they did murder the bank manager when he couldn't open the safe because he only had half of the combination but they did that by stabbing him 24 times with a letter opener damn they attempted to kill the other person who was in the bank at the time to who was an employee named Don Lopez but they only managed to stab her a few times which proved to be not

lethal but bad the police didn't surround the bank and then the brothers gave up another employee showed up and thought that they saw something suspicious going on inside so this other employees she wrote down the license plate numbers of cars outside when the LeGrand's left and the police showed up she gave them the plate numbers and the cops tracked the brothers down that way Alex has basically taken a real-life case and transposed all of the elements of bank robbery movies onto it yeah and that's what he's accepted as truth of what happened it's nonsense yeah he believes every bank robbery is the

opening five minutes of the dark down it's the yeah it's the Joker showing up everybody in the gang murder each other at the end of a school bus yeah absolutely 100% they drove it out and even though there was dust on it they got into a line of school buses and nobody was the wiser I would rather if Alex just relayed the plot of the inside man that would be way better because that's confusing I'd love to see him try and explain that plot mmm god it'd be wild anyway this case is actually really really interesting and the way it played out in the courts is something that's worth talking about and it

intersects with Alex's ideology but before we talk more about that let's see if he understands what happened okay because he definitely doesn't understand the crime okay but then what ended up happening in relationship to their death penalty okay let's see here's how Alex explains it okay they gave him a death penalty and the court was about to hear the case well the Supreme Court well the the state went ahead and executed them because the Supreme Court didn't agree to hear the case first off well Ginsburg then said oh this is horrible in the future we will follow the edicts of the International Criminal Court and the

World Court of Human Rights and all these other kangaroo institutions that have been set up so that's what Alex okay that's how he explains this Ginsburg after this case was Alan well naturally I saw the best minds of my German generation executed for a bank robbery right yeah so so then Justice Gidbert Ginsburg goes well Constitution's out the window we got to follow the EU we let's just steal the Constitution so here's what actually happened on the day that Walter LeGrand was set to be executed Germany filed with the International Court of Justice seeking a provisional court order so the US would

pause the execution the ICJ did give this provisional order from there the Supreme Court decided that they didn't have any jurisdiction to hear this provisional order since it was the state of Arizona that was carrying out the execution and the federal courts can't hear lawsuits brought by another country against a state right a bunch of arguments flew around about whether or not executing the men would violate the Vienna Convention but ultimately all of the US parties seemed to take the position that international law wasn't legally binding and that the actions that they were being taken weren't

actually violations of this convention yeah yeah then in 2001 the ICJ ruled that the US had violated rules about consular relations because the LeGrand brothers were never told by Arizona law enforcement that as German nationals they had the right to contact the German consulate for help yeah they didn't they weren't informed of that ability well bomber yeah yeah though they did eventually contact the consulate the delay was argued to have hindered Germany's ability to protect its nationals interests yeah yeah it wasn't a case of Ginsburg just saying that we need to bow down to international court

edicts it was a situation where the ICJ determined that the US had violated an agreement that we entered into willingly yeah with other government we signed it yeah yeah and it's it's a bit more complicated than the presentation that Alex is making right and obviously because he doesn't know what happened no of course not that is that is just kicking and screaming about the idea that people respect the opinions of other countries yeah yeah especially when it's their nationals citizens yeah yeah and Germany was probably like I don't kill people that's I mean we don't do it yeah I think there is an interesting sort of

discussion to be had about the German nationals aspect of it because they had lived in the United States essentially their whole life sure sure so there's a technicality right but but I don't know how meaningful it is in terms of like the like refuting the circumstances of the case well in terms of change and eventually how much people care it was very little I think well I mean this is two years later and Alex is essentially forgot all the details of the crime all the details of the court thing that happened it's just a globalism yeah yeah yeah that's such a weird situation to have to have like six courts just argue

made up nonsense back and forth at each other like no no no we can't do this because of some dude in 1700 yeah Arizona oh my god Arizona's gonna kill this guy anyway that's so stupid oh man see 150 years ago we yeah sorry so Alex believes that all these European courts and all this stuff it's all kangaroo courts you know where that term comes from Australia Alex knows oh yeah they are kangaroo in it in every way and where do we get the term kangaroo court I got this great book it's the whole way it's why do we say it you can look up any saying about 150 years ago they would execute you for any reason in Australia and the

British courts would they would have juries under the Magna Carta but they would go out and appoint the juries it would always be the police and government officials on the jury and so the the people of the island nation began to say it'd be better if they just had a had a group of kangaroos it's a kangaroo court anyway side issue side issue I love that book it's over there on the bookshelf in the studio why do we say it it's interesting he loves that book yes I've read all of Carol quickly's but but I really get really get excited for toilet reading yeah that's what I'm here for baby man that's

exactly how I could characterize this it's a bathroom reader the bathroom book this is not where kangaroo court comes from it that's it's an expression with a definite American origin although the kangaroo itself is deeply associated sure even you when you were just randomly guessing yeah throw it out there so there's a number of theories about how this term came to popularity but none of them are close to what Alex is saying sure one is that in the early 1800s there were corrupt courts in an area of Vicksburg Mississippi called the kangaroo district and so the name stuck from that that's one of the theories that

people believe okay another theory is that the term comes from the characterization of these courts jumping to conclusions much like a kangaroo sure sure the third idea has to do with these there were amateur trials that were being held in the California Gold Rush yeah like triple A trials sure yeah they weren't ready for the big leagues yeah these were primarily for prosecuting claim jumpers okay and so there was okay the association of kangaroos again sure sure there but the point is that Alex is taking his history from a bathroom so none of these involve the fucking Magna Carta no that's what we're

saying also Alex shouldn't care about the Magna Carta why is he appealing to a non-american constitution document he might as well be on arrow pining about how 13 states make it illegal to ride a horse on Tuesday or whatever dumb shit in those books yep he's a fucking child yep yep did you know that in this county you're unable to yell after 10 p.m. according to state statute and you're like what who fuck off who cares exact fuck you yeah that's the level of like source he's relying on for history lessons okay so Alex take some calls mm-hmm and one of them this guy he he he suggests that it's normal to feel

helpless in the circumstances in the world that are going on sure but there's one way to fight it and that's by promoting Alex there we go and then we get a little bit of a cameo by a very special animal mm-hmm well I tell you what happens I'm going to continue going to website or rather going to chat rooms and pasting info wars and in prison planet and handing out you know your website to people who I meet in work and and elsewhere but you know I guess that's really all we can do sounds like you've got a neocon in the background show that's my power actually I guess it is a neocon yeah haha

neocon parrot that's funny I appreciate that's not very funny no no but it would be a lower tier SNL sketch for sure I guess the joke is that neocons just repeat things I would assume so I guess that's probably what they're going for yeah this is that's not the first time that the parrot interrupted the call by the way okay so the oh boy yeah okay anyway weird and it's just this the sort of consistent thing where the solution is always promote Alex right right that you can fight off despair or like really stick it to the globalists or do things that bring more people into my revenue stream yeah does that does

that make them feel like they're doing what I mean it must it must give them that feeling of I am doing something to fight the globalist and it's not just like me being part of a multi-level marketing yeah it's not me propping up a propagandist yeah yeah and I think the reason is because Alex does all that stuff about how like hey my movies have a 90% success rate in waking people up they must think like well the wider we get this message the more people will wake up sure as opposed to the more people will give Alex ratings yeah yep so Alex gets another call from a guy who is anti-nra now nice to know that these

guys were for us but now it's like if you're hanging out to dry like piece of dirty laundry man I love America now I mean there's better groups after her willing to fight for our gun rights and you're one of them who's who's who's greater than all of us who's showing us what's going on and a lot of people are really lying to what's going on too I mean it's like well I'm not greater than than the folks out there a lot of people are smarter than I am they're more articulate and more educated and they're not being the leaders they should be we need them to stand up and fight this thing but this caller really

illustrates how helpless Alex has made his listeners everything Alex has covered so far on this episode is completely fake and based on nothing his whole riff about the courts being told what to do by foreign international legal bodies is a load of shit based on him making things up about an op-ed that he didn't read the entire fear about gun confiscation is based on a bill that's being its languishing in committee for the last three months with no actions taken he's done nothing but misinform and yet this caller experiences what Alex is doing as informing him it's really a testament to the power of

branding what's really remarkable though is that this caller is saying that Alex is a hero in informing the people about threats to their gun rights and that the NRA is not a good organization for gun defense but if you've been paying attention the source Alex is basing his entire coverage of Bush intending to re-up the assault weapons ban he's basing it on a legislative action press release put out by the NRA he's relying on them for talking points and yet he and his callers are pretending like they're not doing anything to support gun rights it's wild yeah it's ludicrous yeah it is it is interesting to me and

also intensely disappointing and and horrific but it does feel like all of the buttons that they've been pushing for like the past 50 years all of the conservative buttons that get people to do things that like okay so not only do we just want people to support us we want certain people that do support us to vocally say that they don't support us and and all of these buttons can be pressed and the only thing that's different is just they press them a lot harder now you know like they haven't developed new techniques they're just louder yeah exactly just ah they're mad at a video game level smashing these

buttons yeah yeah yeah yep and I think it's it's interesting to be able to go back and and see the sort of the more finesse yeah yeah yeah so Alex gets another caller and this this call just to press the shit out of me some people I mean he was looking right down there like oh what's this I mean I was over this weekend I went to a place to do a little business and I was talking to some people there about what was going on and happening and I got one guy to look up your website I'll find out later and another man that was there I talked to him earlier about a year not a year later and he's eyes kind of like lit up

like I remember you you tell me about you know what was going on so forth I had to go see a shrink I looked at him like how much did you pay I told you what was going on I told you what was happening this guy took your brain took it out and dumped it on oh no no no no he had a problem and the brave new world oh yeah when you're upset you go and they give you so much oh yeah you're right that is such a bummer wow if you believe this caller he ran into somebody who a year prior he had gotten into like info wars type material and the guy was like I had to go to therapy and then this is like oh no yeah it's a sign of weakness that

this guy ended up taking care of his mental health because probably you know this is indicative of somebody who who got into this and it just went down a terrible rabbit hole yeah and he got himself out of it and well I mean it's actually a very encouraging story except for the interpretation that's being given here that is the depressing part yeah that is the people who left the cult and they they're like oh I can't believe those apostates how could they do that how could they go get therapy and live well developed lives yeah yeah terrible bummer yeah and I mean like on a real level the the damage that this is

also doing is encouraging people who are listening to experience any instinct to veer away from yeah info wars as that they're going to get soma and not just that any help doesn't necessarily mean you know info wars help it could just be like hey man I have been really depressed for the past and they'll they're like nope don't go to a therapist they'll dig out your brain yeah they might try and get you off of the info war you know why you're depressed you're not info warring enough you need to promote out you need to promote Alex more yeah that'll solve yeah it's like prayer for Jesus but it's for Alex and he gets rich

yeah so Alex has a weird analogy that he makes that he thinks he can use to deprogram leftists who are against guns oh man I'm scared what if he gets me he's not oh it's not going to okay and then he has one of the saddest weirdest ads I've heard in a long time okay the gun is a canary in the coal mine the gun is a symptom of a free society when you're in a Nazi Germany or a Stalinist Russia or a Caesar's Rome or Fidel Castro's Cuba you don't have armed citizens you have an armed government with a monopoly of force and I'm able to deprogram leftist by explaining this to them I go what an American Indian be allowed to have a

rifle or should while they're being oppressed and killed should they have their gun taken and we'll go oh of course not well now you get it so shut up and look at the facts and then speak out once you know the reality that swimming pools and cars kill far more people than guns do and you've been manipulated by the corporate media if they get our guns you people it's all over for everybody all right I'm gonna break we'll come back go to the calls before I go any further I want everybody because this is a great sponsor and they do a wonderful job and they've got amazing prices and wonderful products and I

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what he was trying to do was get out of describing any of the things that he had no idea he was reading he's like ah this is too long in the moment he had no idea what you were supposed to be selling so he was trying to sell you how great the pamphlet whatever oh look at the color oh yeah so many pages I mean it's almost it's almost an anti-ad where he's like he wanted to say like this is too many pages to sell a good product I'm gonna be honest with you and it's actually such a bad commercial that he comes back from break doing another yeah yeah they called him like oh you can get classes saying some actual

specifics yeah so did he get you um well I mean here's the problem with that argument it's not that simple it's also not analogous at all no no but what where where where do you what do you mean well here's what I was thinking I was just thinking that Roman centurions did not have guns to begin with true so that was a big problem yeah all right and then second yes a lot of people were fucking armed in Rome it's just a lot harder but it's a sword but what about the Native American example what about the Native American example I'm gonna throw this out at you maybe the problem is not

fundamentally that they don't have guns true maybe there's a deeper problem more systemic problem right yeah and this is where I kind of come to my point about it not being analogous because there was an active genocide yeah they were trying there was a campaign of that against the people who had existed and lived here prior to the colonists coming over yeah and that's not happening to Alex and his dumb militia friends no no there are zero bounties out on all white people right and I think if that were the case I think things would be a little bit different and also if there were just like common sense type gun reforms that were going around in the time

of yeah like the colonists then I don't think it would have been a problem here's what I'll say I will say this if there are bounties out on leftists in four years I might buy a gun sure but until there are literal bounties out on anyone who believes similar things to be I don't think that's gonna happen and also let's not forget that the Trail of Tears and Indian Removal Act champion by Andrew Jackson yeah someone who Alex thinks is one of the only good presidents in US history yep so I don't really care too much about whatever sort of bizarre gun argument he's trying to make yeah yeah you know you think that you wouldn't arm an American Indian but my favorite president killed most of them see now what do you think about guns good point yeah you

got me cool so uh Alex has a surprise guest who pops in and this is this was weird this caught me off guard past your butch paul now joins us he uh he is a vietnam veteran himself a guy who's fought the new world order tooth and nail right here on this network and that's your butch so what's going on well sir I don't want to interrupt your program you're having a good program but I just got home a few minutes ago from from working a job as you know now I had to pass this on in case you didn't know what you probably do maybe the losers may not that they now are extracting DNA from your fingerprints and those fingerprints can be up to a year old so you give you give your fingerprints to for your driver's license they have your DNA if they want it now where did you

get that story this is from UPS science news uh uh no I was I was not aware of that yes I ended up doing radio interviews this morning and didn't do as much preparation as I should have is that on uh all the decision that that that will be on in my newsletter uh it's also will be on my website maybe the now I'm not sure but well I've got a sneaking suspicion that if it was in united press international science my wife has probably already posted it on info wars.com but hey uh you heard about new york we're gonna have the homosexual high school oh absolutely of course as you know as I talked to you already that uh the christian schools in texas especially with the patrick wade have to shut down because we're not licensed but we can put with but we can find a public

perverted school of course yes oh and here in texas you can have a buddhist or a muslim or a jewish school that's that's unlicensed but christian schools are being shut down here this came out of nowhere yeah yeah yeah wasn't something that came up earlier on the show at all that's a real strange thing for somebody to call in and be like alex did you know that a horde of pegasus are flying over the country to start murdering all of us well my wife probably got that and she's posted on the website already yeah good to good to remember like his wife was uh basically running a whole lot of info wars back at this point yeah anyway uh pastor butch actually still has this radio show called called to decision radio but he's not really a figure in alex's world anymore

that's really strange since he's pushing all the same shit like covid vaccine conspiracies and abortion extremism you'd think they'd still be like really tight but yeah what happened i don't know oh okay i checked out his website though in in the coming week one of his guests is coach david abin mayer the complete lunatic that we've covered a couple times more bizarrely though in the last week he had larry pratt on as a guest the guy from gun owners of america yeah that's only weird because i haven't seen larry pratt on alex's show in a bit it feels like he's not on alex's gun shit talking roll the decks and i suspect that it's because ted new gents there for that and alex is nothing if not a star fucker yeah yeah you go with the star over the yeah

so alex he wants to take more calls but he can't because there's news i'm not gonna take any more calls because i got a bunch of news that needs to be covered let's hear we have not yet gotten to and before and before i do that uh i want to plug a couple things and we'll cover news and then talk to carol and pennsylvania and wait what patiently holding wait on the wait what what that's very weird what i want i want to take calls but i can't because i've got to get to the news but also here's some plugs and then we'll do some news and then i'll get to some calls yeah that was that was a roller coaster ride of what the what the agenda is going to be yeah i have no idea what's gonna happen sorry i can't take calls i'm gonna do some plugs i'm gonna talk to carol from indiana

i'm gonna talk to yeah but he does get to some headlines and some news okay and i kind of realized why alex doesn't cover the news and much and that's because the show grinds to a fucking halt when he's reading headlines yeah it's just horrible the energy is sucked out of the show entirely right when he's talking to callers or riffing around and making stuff up and yelling it's kind of fun but then he's just cold reading headlines and being like oh why are we even doing this reading things that actively disagree with his point as he's yeah yeah i mean normally he does so much more preparation but he had those regular you know of course it was a rough morning so anyway here is one of his stories don't worry they claim they're about to catch saddam do you believe any of that

the wax figures they put on tv and said it was his sons and now they're gonna have a new wax figurine and tell us it's saddam who's saying when the guys living in baylorus paid off by rumsfeld and bush according to major russian and iranian newspapers who i have found them to be more accurate than the neocon lies okay well this one's i mean that's a low bar sure so but in this case he did not clear that bar no no no that that bar did not get clear yeah absolutely not so he still thinks that the saddam's kids deaths was faked were faked and that saddam is living in belarus so good good that this was something he consistently has been uh reporting and saying he believes it's nice to know that he's always trusted russian television more than an iranian tv

yeah iranian tv sure you know why though because they would have him on oh yeah well yeah he was guest on like iranian tv shows really yeah yeah and so i think and he would be on rt and shit so like no that for sure i think that i didn't know he's on a radian show yeah i think he trusts those those uh media spheres because they accept him so are you telling me that it's entirely possible if not probable that at one point in time there were several iranian info wars fans yes yeah definitely yeah um so here's some more news what a weird thing to be yeah uh this one's not good uh continuing months before movie on death of jesus causes stir i'm gonna try to get uh hudden gibson or maybe even mel Gibson on the show

because i mean all it does is show what the bible says happened the corrupt Pharisees had jesus killed and uh the jewish groups are saying that is anti-semitic so this wasn't the criticism the jewish groups had and the criticism wasn't just coming from jewish groups there were a whole lot of anti-semitic tropes that at least were nodded towards in that movie and there's just a foundational problem of trying to make one story out of the four gospels that many people have suggested mel Gibson should just not have tried to do that didn't they win best adapted screenplay so also hudden gibson is a holocaust denier and has claimed that the second vatican council the one where it was decreed that the jews were not responsible for jesus's death was a secret plot

orchestrated by the masons and the jews yeah here's some of his other thoughts let's hear him quote this is absolutely ridiculous and the holocaust it's all maybe not all fiction but most is yeah he was asked quote why do the jews construct holocaust museums and he answered quote there are too many survivors it's just a gimmick to collect money they have to go where there is money and here's another quote to his quote they cannot admit that they were wrong he's referring to killing jesus right right right they have they've been at it for all of history is the jew still actively anti christian he is for by being a jew he's anti everyone else that's one of the wilder things that i've ever heard a person say out out loud mel Gibson's dad yeah and then of course

mel Gibson himself has had a little bit of a history of anti-semitic outbursts sure in 2010 when owner writer told a story about meeting mel Gibson jewish people came up in conversation and he asked her quote you're not an oven dodger are you this language and worse was reported to have been used regularly by mel Gibson reported by joe esterhaus a screenwriter who was working with gibson on a film that never got made he also said that gibson called the holocaust quote mostly a lot of horseshit and of course in 2006 he yelled about how jews are responsible for all the wars in the world when he got pulled over for a dui there was that yeah yeah seems like this is alex's kind of family starting to think maybe there were a lot of the anti-semitic tropes in

the passion of the christ yeah yeah yeah i mean look let's just let's let's just look i mean if you watch the movie and you don't know who made it yeah it's still a bit offensive yeah yeah there's there are some scenes that are like well this is a little much yeah then you consider who made it you're like oh okay yeah that was intentional and then you remember how many youth groups were bust in to see that movie and all those children were just bombarded with hollywood anti-semitism who tough uh good to see that mel gibson still getting somewhere oh yeah no no anyway uh alex has some thoughts about um i don't know how else to put it the gay agenda sure jay lino slated for a queer eye makeover this is out of ad age dot com gay product placement

showed we're on high ratings and they admit uh that it's actually being funded that these sitcoms and dramas are being funded by groups to push homosexuality uh yeah the government pushes anti-gun messages a lot of this is paid for and here's a positive promotion out of one of the big advertisement agency websites bragging about this major marketers or ongoing placement deals on the breakout get queer eye for the straight guy even as nbc plots on august 14 special in which the show's gay fashion team will make over jay lino see it's paid for folks when you watch that sip dominant seems like they've got this agenda yeah it's paid for when you see them say anti-gun comments or anti-american comments and this is all expanded under bush this article that alex

is talking about is about how successful queer eye for the straight guy is right and how people want to buy product placement time on it right so like i don't know vedal sassoon would buy like put our products on do you mean like a fashion product of some sort would be associated with or a fashion show yes or some clothing line or you know like that that kind of stuff is what this is talking about it's not like oh the government is paying to put gay content on it's like this is popular people enjoy it it's getting high ratings how so people who want to sell their products are buying time on this no this is ridiculous no no you're just wrong the entire it's a bush family if it weren't for the bush family will and grace would never have made it to air fully funded that first

episode you know that you know that george i forgot that the first season of will and grace was on pbs yeah i forgot that look man this is ridiculous like i he's pretending this isn't just like commercials that he's being somehow offended by yeah that's the idea of like buying ad time on a program that features homosexual people yeah is somehow an insidious conspiracy for him this is this is pathetic yeah yeah you know that the attitude where we're pretty convinced we were pretty convinced that the attitudes from even the far right had kind of changed over the years i mean it's been 20 years no there haven't been a shit ton of hurricanes because gay people are fine now you know like it's and then you just realize they just kind of stop talking about it

or they talked about it in a slightly different way exactly they didn't they didn't change yeah yeah saying maybe less overtly like uh identifiably hateful things yep and then just sort of keeping keeping the fire going yep yep underground yeah tending the embers oh yep brutal so uh here's the the end of our our adventure on august 4th uh and i think it's just kind of like a nice thing that resonates to the present u.s. government warrants an imminent massive internet hack attacks yeah we know you're launching them huge denial of service attacks yeah we've already felt that uh editfullwars.com we're out of time i'll be back tonight night and midnight great show really enjoyed your calls i love exposing evil and i appreciate all your support loves fighting evil

love exposing evil uh yeah you remember how like uh right when the uh invasion of ukraine started and alex was saying that false flag attacks and hack attacks and yep you know the power grids going down and everything we're about to happen so they could blame it on putin mm-hmm yeah and that never happened and he says all that kind of shit for the last 20 years yep pretty regularly you bet so alex's predictions constantly good yeah yeah saddam's kids fake death when you've only got one response to things it does happen over and over and over again doesn't it whoa nelly yeah yeah it's uh you know careers bad 20 years 20 years mm-hmm god damn yeah man imagine if we still did the novelty drinks thing we couldn't fucking sustain that i'm struggling to come up with

bright more yeah quite frankly well things are getting less bright over time it's not your fault you're not wrong it's not your fault man even ice cream isn't always good not always good oh boy yeah so this uh brings us to the end of our 2003 adventure um ideally uh we'll be back on wednesday with the present day episode check in with alex he uh maybe he'll have like a scrap book of pictures from his trip maybe he'll have a fun story about running into a globalist that weird uh outdoor location sure certainly not a hot spring because he's on that i won't on that story already i want him to accidentally wander into a gemstone store or something along the like a new agey store it's got a name that he doesn't quite understand and he thinks it's going to have

like hot peppers or barbecue sauce and he walks in there everybody's just looking at gems that might make your day better you know and then he thinks it's a conspiracy that the gems actually work the gems work they're killing them i would like to hear since he was on the west coast yeah i'd like to hear about him going into like the woods in uh or again or or washington that'd be fun beautiful woods and running into a globalist who then introduces him to sasquatch oh yes i'd like a sasquatch appearance yeah oh what if he was out west sasquatch hunting with bobcat gold what if they teamed up for uh yeah that's the shit right there and the only reason he went to florida wasn't to hang out with alfie oaks and go do that he was looking for the skunk ape oh i

thought he was looking for the Loch Ness monster because he really doesn't have a sense of direction no when he went to uh bilderberg though that was just to go to europe so he could look for the right right absolutely look for nessie he's just a cryptid hunter that's what's really going on it would have been a better career for him it would have been a great career i want to find all these beings so i can yell at them oh i gotta i gotta find out if these cryptids are in the gun rights i'm gonna scream at animals that don't exist which cryptids are into the second amendment the moth man does the moth man believe moth man could be right to carry what else we got yeti's for sure there are the frozen north they got a hunt absolutely they got rifles uh-huh what else

do we got gargoyles gargoyles no i saw the cartoon in the 90s they don't like guns nah nah they could fly they don't need them they land on people that was most of the show trying to think of other cryptids why am i having trouble i don't know i don't like cryptids that much that's probably why anyway jordan yes we'll be back indeed we will but until then we have a website we do it's knowledge right comm yep we're also on twitter we are it is at knowledge underscore fight and that go to bed jordan yep i also forgotten out of context drop that i had so here we go i'm pro gone i'm a commie that's right anyway we'll be back but until then i'm neo and leo i'm dzx clark uh i hope you all have a wonderful dreamy creamy summer and now here comes the sex

robots andy and chansas you're on the air thanks for holding so alexa my first name color i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you