Knowledge Fight - #70: Sep 29- Oct 3, 2015

Episode Date: August 4, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan about the 13th (13th?) installment in his investigation into what happened to get Alex Jones to team up with Team Trump back in 2015. In this leg of the hunt, nothing really changes about Alex's feelings about Trump, but he does seem to throw a considerable amount of his weight behind another nationalist strongman, namely Putin. This leads Dan into a sea of rampant speculation.

Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. So Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We hear a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk about Alex Jones. There is a twist to that, though. One big one. Yes. How long are we going to do this bit for? Never again. Never again? This is the last time we're doing this. This is it. Is it because we can never actually make it to the end of the bit? Enjoy this while it lasts because we're never doing it again. I know a lot about Alex Jones. And I don't know anything about Alex Jones. Today we are going to be doing another investigation

episode, Jordan. We're going to go back to 2015. But before we get to that, why don't you tell us where we have for a beverage? We'll be drinking Farmer's Aloe Vera, artificially strawberry flavored drink. I don't want to put too fine a point on this, but I smelled it before we started the broadcast and I thought it kind of smelled a little bit like stomach acid. Oh, this is going to be pretty. Here we go. Ingredients list, water, next ingredient, Aloe Vera juice. I regret to follow your ingredient, Aloe Vera gel. Oh, I'm done. This is not a liquid. This is not. This is another coconut juice situation. There are things in there, my friend. You know what? It actually tastes pretty good. It's the chewing of it. That makes things difficult. You brought us back to

this terrible place where in, uh, we got to chew liquids. It was your day and that means it's your fault. It is. I didn't, I had to get them. So you get the punishment. Fair enough. But people who should not be punished, Jordan, I love your transition. I'd like to give a shout out to a couple of our new donators. Uh, welcome to policy. Wonkery. Uh, thank you for donating, Heather. I'm a policy. Wonk. We appreciate it. Welcome aboard. Wonderful. Come on board. The water's fine. Well, not that water. No, not this. I mean, it's, it's probably good for you. Probably. Heather, try farmers Aloe Vera as, as your first policy. Wonk action in case your insides are sunburned. You need to drink some Aloe Vera. It's right there. Also, I'd like to give a shout out to our

other new donator. What's up out there, John? I'm a policy. Wonk. Welcome aboard. Thank you very much, John. If you would like to become a policy, wonk yourself. You can do so by going to our website, knowledge fight.com and clicking the support the show button. And yeah, it'd be great. Yeah, it would be great. So Jordan, would you like to start out the show with an out of context drop from Alex Jones? I think I would sometimes we don't do a good enough job doing these out of context drops. Hey, this is Sandra Bullocks. I gotta get away from you on this fired, understood, understood. That's fair. Last, last opening bit. Last time I'm on the show as well. Sometimes I do not find something that's great in terms of an out of context drop from Alex.

Sometimes there aren't things that are great. That's true. So today to make up for it, I have two. Oh, here is the first one where Alex, you know, he's a religious dude. Okay. Well, I pray many times a week. I wouldn't say every day four or five times a week. And it seems to help me. Great. Very, very uninterested in prayer. Why would you only do it for a fact? These also, why are you announcing it? Yeah. Has he ever read the Bible? Of course not. You know that Jesus said all kinds of shit about how you should pray in a closet and you should never let anybody know. Yeah, because that whole thing full. Yeah. Yeah. It's pious bullshit that the Pharisees used to do. And this is why we got into all the trouble we did.

And just because he's religious, humble bragging about like, I don't pray every day. That doesn't make it better. Yeah. What is that also for someone who screams on air for hours a day about how like you gotta get with Jesus. They're trying to kill all the Christians. Hey, let me tell you something, Dan. Do you know what his real prayer is? The show. Yeah. The show is a four hour prayer to God. Yeah. And whatever God that is that he's praying to, I'm happy to know he's there. I hope that God, that unspecified God appreciates it. Yeah. So here's the other out of context from Alex Jones. It's as Americana as you can get. It's like a royal flush of Americana. Both sides of my family, sickeningly Americana. If there was American royalty, I'd be

it, folks. No. Wow. Sickening level. Sickening. Sickening level of Americana. So much Americana. That is the vestigial twin speaking out. It is a sickening. That's a tacit admission that America's history is fucking horrifying or just all like a whole cloth type lie. Yeah, but be that as it may, I would like you to keep both of those out of context drops in your mind as we go along. Oh, both of the Alex Jones doesn't pray every day, but it kind of makes him feel good. Not as good as calling the Pope a devil. Worshipper, of course, as we've learned makes him feel really good. The other that he is American royalty and both sides of his family are straight flush, royal flush Americana. Did he go to ancestry.com or how do we know this?

I think his CIA dentist father probably just told him some bullshit. Yeah, that sounds about right. The sixth smartest boy in Texas grows up to be a CIA dentist who gives birth to the world's most bullshit crap artist. God, that is a Dan Brown novel. It's so close. It's too bizarre to be real, but somehow it's wonderful, except that it's real. So Jordan, today we're going to be going over the period of September 29th to October 2nd and 2015. As you know, this is an investigation in order to better understand why the fuck did Alex Jones sign up with Donald Trump. Right. And so far it's unclear. Question one. Did he pay his taxes? What? How are we on the third quarter? Oh, I mean, the third quarter start of the fiscal year,

I suppose the fiscal year starts on October 1st. So what we're not, who knows, who knows? This is unclear. You're asking that because if you haven't listened to all the episodes, Alex Jones through a 28 hour live broadcast in order to make a million dollars in the money bombs, the money bomb a week before the end of the fiscal year odd, very strange, very strange timing. So other than that, he doesn't support Trump yet. He's been going back and forth for the better part of three months now with the, I like it. I like what he's saying, but I don't trust him kind of stuff. Roger Stone has not yet arrived. He is not. However, we've worked out the timeline a little better and Roger Stone left the Trump campaign after

the first debate because as he says, Trump got into that war of words with Megan Kelly. And there was a lot of backlash. Things were getting distracted from the core principles of the campaign, which is what, what, which is what, what, what were the core principles? It seems like fighting with Megan Kelly is right in line. So Roger, Roger Stone left the campaign. That may be the only core principle. I told you this earlier and I want to be really clear that this is bizarre and it has to mean something. Maybe I don't know. Roger Stone left the campaign in the second week, beginning of the second week of August. Yes. Around August 8th, August 10th or so. That was when the debate

was the first debate. Right. Alex Jones, within a week of that, does his pivot on Donald Trump on not saying shit about Donald Trump, not on before that point, he'd been talking about how Donald Trump was a predator. He was mobbed up. He wasn't really rich. He was the front man for a consortium on the East coast. Right. Then he goes to Europe on a vacation. He comes back after the first debate and within a couple of days of being back in America, he says, I'm going to give Trump a chance. I'm not saying I'm supporting him. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. And it was all, if you recall, predicated on the idea that he said something negative about Hillary Clinton, which of course he had already done in the past. Right. So it

seems superficial and probably means something that Roger Stone left. And then immediately, almost immediately, Alex Jones is doing some fucked up stuff. It could mean something that is that we don't have a proof. We don't have proof. No. We do have suspicious timing. It's an interesting piece of the puzzle. And I don't think we've ever made that clear on the show. So I wanted to do that. But now here we are. I mean, that was in August. Now we're at the end of September. And still, he hasn't committed to Trump, although he has had Diamond and Silk, right? The very pro Trump vloggers. He's had them on. They're basically just Trump pitch men. Yep. Pitch women, as it were. So it's very unclear. And I'll tell you what, we're not going to learn anything about

his position on Donald Trump today. Of course not. He doesn't do anything in this, this time period. What does he do? Well, I'll tell you what he does. All right. Now that seemed a little bit canned. Yeah. What does he do, Dan? I'll tell you this. He talks a lot about Russia in this stretch from September 29th to October 2nd. A lot about Russia. Yeah. Yeah. So he takes off America, the whole campaign, the most important thing happening in America at the time to then be like, how about Russia guys? You like that place, right? Well, if he talks about the campaign at all, it's impassing. And I don't recall any real meaningful discussion of it at all. No substance. Nothing. But here's how he starts things out on the 29th. There is a Drudge Report headline,

New World Order Putin outsmarts Obama. And I have been scanning over the editorial piece out of the New York Post, and I agree with part of it, but not with some of the other parts. And at the bottom of the hour, I'm going to go over some of this article claiming that Obama's naive, Obama's from the 1950s, Obama's trying to be friendly to Russia and Russia is being decisive and knows what it's doing. Russia is on the verge of economic collapse. Russia is under massive economic warfare. Russia is surrounded by kind of forces funded by the West. Russia is fighting for its life and has continued to put its hand out to the West. But the photo, it's Obama trying to shake the hand of Putin. And it looks as if Putin is refusing

when it's Russia that's been thrown out of the G8. It's Russia that's been thrown out of the G20. You know why? It's Russia that is seeing oil prices brought down to bankrupt them. You know why? And by no means is Russia some sweetie cake, perfect pantheon of grace and innocence and law abiding love. But compared to the New World Order Technocratic, Eugenics-based transhumanist world government pushers, Russia is just good old fashioned, Americana, mafia style government. So that, I mean, did he just say positively? Yes. Russia is good old fashioned mafia style government. Yep. You know what? You got to give it to you in Chicago. Sure. When the mafia ran things, at least it got done. Right? Yeah. A lot of people got hurt. Yeah. Maybe.

Which Alex is totally fine with. Allegedly. Yeah. Maybe if you journalists disappeared. So if you want to break down that clip, that's astoundingly pro Russia. Really crazy. That's troublingly pro Russia. He's not discussing any of the reasons that sanctions exist. He's not discussing any of the reasons they got thrown out of the G8. Not important. They're the ones who got thrown out. That's what's important. And the why is not important. And you see how he conveniently gets around having to deal with any of those issues by over demonizing the imagined group that, you know, the globalist. Oh, right. He turns them into literal, the most evil things in the world. And by comparison, Putin's pretty good compared to that. That's what you would want to

do if you were trying to defend a terrible person. You would make the alternative even worse. Yeah. That's the best way to do it. Look, Hitler had a few bad ideas. He says the same thing about he wasn't as bad as the literal devil. Well, but he says about Hitler that he got set up by the globalists and that the globalists were behind the entirety of World War Two. That Hitler, he was a bad guy. He was a bad guy. Look, he did some bad things, but he got set up. Look, he later in the second Germany was no paragon of, you know, free speech or anything like that. Sure. It was good old fashioned autocratic style dictatorship, which you can take a little bit of over here and there. Yeah. Americana. So that's troubling. I find that clip very troubling. It's weird. It's

not good. And I also want to point out just real quick. It's very interesting to me the way he and he will eventually co-op that sort of rhetoric when he's getting going defending Trump. Like he says, you know, Trump's not perfect, but yeah, you know, he does better than the global. He does the same sort of rationalization that he does for historical revisionism about Hitler or for current revisionism about Putin in order to defend Trump. That's very not good. Whatever it is he likes, even if it's the worst thing in the world, he will give up any one of his principles, totally throw them right out the window and then make up a reason that the globalists are worse. Absolutely. That's his game plan. Basically. Yeah. So I don't know that that stuck in my

crawl a little bit, but not quite as much as this next clip. I'd like to say that this series of two clips, first one, it's a shot. Second one, Chaser baby. Quick question. Yeah. How did Putin outsmart Obama by not shaking his hand? No, by attacking Al Qaeda in Syria, by, by attacking Syria, bombing Syria. I feel like that's not outsmarting anybody. No, this whole stretch, there's going to be a lot about Putin being a genius and the good guy in Syria. Oh, of course. And how all the, you know, that guy propping up the dictator who is gassing and murdering his own people. That guy. Well, no, it was the globalists to guess the people, according to Alex. Oh, okay. According to Alex and conveniently Russian propaganda.

Crazy. Yeah. I can't imagine how those two are working in concert. Yeah. Weird. There are a lot of overlap that is not shared by the rest of the world. Interesting. Not even, not even like your drudge report or anything like that. Like even that. Oh, were they doing that too? Yeah. Yeah. I remember everybody did that. I want to be clear. Yeah. I don't know what was going on with the drudge report in 2015, but I do know that some of these narratives have been repackaged in present day. Yeah. And the drudge and Breitbart have been on the same tip. Yeah. Well, I'm just saying that that was in 2015. Cause I remember a bunch of people going on talk shows at the time, because the party line was look at how much smarter, look at how much stronger Putin is

than Obama. Because they had to attack Obama somehow. That was just an attempt to cuck out Obama. Exactly. It wasn't like full on support of Putin. It was just like wish we had a strong dictator like him. And we, we've got some clips about that whole issue that we'll get to eventually and we'll see where you think it lands on that spectrum of the trying to cuck out Obama or actually supporting Putin. And we'll see. But first here's a shot and then we'll get to the chaser. All right. And so folks engaging in concealed carry have been protecting society and lowering crime rates, but open carry has been actively promoting the idea that our guns aren't illegal and have been showing the sheeple that and countering the brainwashing.

And it's just as important of a civil rights, human rights, God given move as Rosa Parks, sitting at the front of the bus or folks trying to eat at lunch counters, where they'd be had blacks wouldn't be served. It is just as epic, just as seminal, just as important. Yeah, man. How do you like that? Just like the Homerian Odyssey. So is carrying a gun into a public place. You got to walk around with guns. And that's exactly the same as people standing up for the dignity of a race. Oh, yeah. Oh, and not only dignity, the just survival equal rights and so on and so forth. Yeah. Not being a fire hosed in public. What have you? Yeah. Positive stuff. Right. But that's the same. I like walking around with your gun. My, the thing that boggled

my mind was right before that when he's like concealed carry people have been protecting society. Of course. This entire time. Every time that you like, like we're like we're Batman. Hey, you're a dumb dumb because every time every time you're walking around in public, the only reason you're not constantly getting shot is because the people who would be shooting you are afraid that someone else in your surroundings probably has a gun that keeps the bad guys at bay. The concealed carry people are protecting society through the implied threat that anyone could have a gun. Oh, well, you know what? That makes sense. Yeah, totally. Yeah. Totally. Well, it's like when you send the back said bat signal up, you know, even if you don't know, you know, you don't know if the

Batman is coming for you. No, you may be trying to hijack a car, right? But you see that bat signal. They're like, Oh shit. Yeah, I better not hijack this car. That's totally, that's a perfect analogy. Yeah, it's perfect. Also makes perfect sense. What's we live in a comic book? We, I would love if in the Batman universe, they just had a couple of podcasters write us in. Let me tell you something about vigilante justice. I think it's a bad idea. And we're going to find out we're going to go through an investigation of Bruce Wayne's childhood to figure out exactly when he became the Batman. Just six hour episode. Oh, we would crush it. So the other thing I'd like to say is that I don't believe that evidence suggests that we have a

history of abusing people who have guns in this country. I further don't believe that you're born with a gun. I don't think that you know what I'm saying? The difference between civil rights is something you're born with. You know, being a part of a group, you don't have a choice about and with Alex having a gun, it's really just, you like guns a lot. God made me with a gun, whether it would be in my hand or in my heart. Dan, do you remember that parable from Jesus? I remember when Alex talked about it. So Jesus goes out into the desert for 40 days and 40 nights, right? He's tempted by the devil, but only on night one because he got his kneecap blown out. That's just, that's just the story, right? Yeah. He's got a sawed off shotgun.

He takes them out, bought it from a survivalist. What else do you do to demons in the desert? So anyway, I told you that was the shot and here's the chaser. And there was a lot of my family that was against the civil war in Texas. Some of them were neutral and went further west. Others joined the Confederacy. Interesting. Okay. Well, there we go. So I'm glad that he's prouder. Maybe the people who were neutral. Maybe like some of them were neutral. Although there is a little bit of that regret in his voice. Like some of them were giant pussies and they went west. Well, the fact that like we have to wrestle with which group he admires more, that's not a good side. Not a good side. I mean, okay, you, Alex,

you have a family lineage and present behavior pattern of someone who believes in the Confederacy. You know, you don't get to fucking say you're like Rosa Parks because you have a gun. No, no, no. A lot like Rosa Parks. You dick. Just like whenever the, look, say what you want. I will. The south, uh, seething from the union is very similar to Rosa Parks going to the front of the bus. It's the same thing. Sure. It's the same thing. Okay. Now, I don't even have the energy to do this. Admittedly, at the time Rosa Parks would have been a slave. Right. So that doesn't help. No. Uh, but does the bus have a gun? Anyway, the bus is shaped like a gun. I like that. It's like a magic school bus situation that, you know, that would be an amazing episode of the

magic school where they teach you about gun safety. This frizzle just gets into a, uh, bus shaped like a Glock. Um, so, uh, this next clip is really funny to me. I hope it's funny to you. It is Alex Jones trying not to get mad, uh, and failing. Okay. And it's all so fake. Oh boy. It's awesome. Was, uh, was Heidi and Spencer there? No, but I do believe that it ends with an ad. I'm going to not blow up right now. Okay, cool. Then we don't have to worry about it. This is not an act that I'm about to really blow up. I just, I gotta get control of my temper right now because it's not healthy to get this angry. But I mean, how stupid is the public? How geopolitically, culturally, religiously ignorant are you people? And I'm not talking

about our regular listeners. Good save. So here's what's happened to Obama. What about your political list? That's the new religion of global government is political correctness. And political correctness is whatever the new correctness is this month, this week, today. So that's interesting. I'm going to pause it there before he actually ends up getting mad because I want to discuss that a tiny bit. The political correctness stuff that he generally complains about now is, I mean, one of the big things is like trans acceptance and that, that, that whole campaign that people are on. And he thinks of political correctness as whatever the globalists are telling you to accept now. And I think that he is a idiot because

people have been discussing trans rights for 50 years. We do have a lot of evidence to prove that he is an idiot. Right. But in this particular case, this isn't political correctness. This is something that people have been on the vanguard of for a really long time. And now it's starting to make more inroads. People are starting to realize that the argument is very valid. Yeah. What I hear all the time with the people who rail against political correctness is they think it means you're not allowed to say something. Right. Which, which, which is insane, right? Like it's not that we don't want you to say the N word. It's that you shouldn't feel like it's important to say the N word. Sure. You shouldn't feel like all, all of the things that the N word

means, that stuff is still in you, whether or not you say it. That's true. The point of political correctness isn't to monitor your speech, but it's to try and keep you from being the horrible monster. Who says those things? To some extent. Yeah. But it, but even beyond that, because I think that's a little high brow and a little like heady. I think on another level, it's, I apologize. No, I didn't, I don't want to get heady on this podcast. Alex wouldn't understand that. But like what I'm saying is on another level, it's really just like it's not banned. It's just, you shouldn't do that. Like, you know, political correctness is just, don't be a dick. More or less. It's not, it's not some sort of magical, like law. It's just, don't be a dick to

people, be thoughtful about what you say. The way that Alex would present that is that like, they're banning me from being able to say the N words. Like you can say it all you want. You probably say it on your show. Yeah. I think people would love it if you did. I'm sure they would. There's a section of your audience that is like, why won't he say it? A huge section. It's a very small, then diagram space that doesn't have them. But he would present it as this word is banned. This word is outlawed. I mean, Milo Yiannopoulos was on the show yesterday. Okay. How about he dies? Well, yeah, but he was saying that his book got banned. His book didn't get banned new Simon and Schuster or whatever just said, we don't want to do this. You're an asshole. You keep advocating

for pedophiles on prominent podcasts. Probably not good. But I will say I texted you about this. You really mad at me. Milo Yiannopoulos is really charming on info wars now because everyone else has no personality. Nope. He was calling Glenn Beck a queer. It was that's not better. That doesn't make me feel better about that. In the moment, it was pretty I let out a little laugh. Okay. When you live in the muck, Dan, you become more desensitized to this bullshit. Well, and the spectacle of it just like Alex Jones has this guy on his show and they're just like gay bashing Glenn Beck. It's so weird. I don't like that. It's so weird. I want to be I'm laughing. I also don't want to die on the hill defending Glenn Beck. You know what I'm saying? No,

totally. And I think it's wrong. But this one, you guys, you guys get this one. I'm not going to start shit there. I would also like to like be totally clear that I'm laughing at the absurdity and novelty of it. Less the gay bashing. Yeah. No, no, no, I got that. But be it as it may. We won't be talking about that because who needs to give those ding dongs more attention. Thank Christ. Anyway, here's Alex trying not to get mad. It's just total cultural Marxism directly out of the Stalin era and the Lenin era and the Soviet Union, where it's just whatever they say this week, you better repeat it exactly as they said it or you're going to a forced labor camp. Well, they always fun camps.

But the military is heating up, getting ready, gearing up on record. Army.mil. Just type in civilian and make labor camp program. Murdersley Center's Establishment Act resettlement army manual. So Alex is misrepresenting all of these documents. You can go find them very easily. It's it's mostly stuff about best practices for, you know, foreign theaters and stuff like that. Yeah. If you have to intern large populations, it's very boring. But be that as it may. Social security numbers, how to process you and your family, how to break up the political leaders, how to put the leader men in another camp, how to helicopter us out for torture and quote reeducation. That sniff is a lie. And those commies are going to be in there,

boy, and they are going to just have their way with us. It's going to be hellish. Of course, we're not planning to go to those. We're ready for your trash. We're ready for your scum. You filthy degenerate maggots. We know exactly who you are. You think you're going to get in a fight with us? It's going to be a cakewalk. You've taken our restraint as weakness. You've taken our kindness as weakness. You're going to find out. Yeah. The noted kindness review. This just hits me, and I get angry. It's so sick to watch reality twisted and inverted and turned sideways and just spun to hell. Frustrates me too. God help me. God help me be calm. Anyways. Oh, well, that solved it. Yeah. He asked God for help being calm, and then he became calm.

Yeah, and that's one of his. I now believe. That's one of his three for the week. Yeah. That's his little prayer. Yeah. How does he count though? I just don't think you should be a broadcaster, quite frankly, if you can't control your emotions. And I'm not saying that Alex should be off the air. I guess you're saying that I should be off the air. No, but he's obviously faking these outbursts and stuff like that. So he can control his emotions. But what he's presenting is a mentally unwell person. It's really bad. It's really complicated. Anyway, I want to get back on track here. I want to get back on track with this next clip. Here's some more. Talk about Putin. And that's the key. And that's why Putin is now the main leader of the world.

Ah, no. Because compared to our leaders, Putin is moral. Putin tells the truth over and over again, and the whole world sees that. The whole world sees that. To whom does he tell the truth? He's mostly talking about. He's moral. He's moral. Dan, describe for me a code of morality. If that allows for literally any of Putin's actions. If journalists talk shit about me, it's ethical for me to kill them. All right. Hide 50, at least billion dollars. That you siphon from your people who as Alex noted, Russia is in an economic crisis. Wonder why? It's a good thing that all the oligarchs have all of the money. Right. That way, they have the power to kick out the globalists. Right. Admittedly, they are in that stage of the

protocols of the elders of Zion that would put them past that level, right? Someone like Putin executed the protocols of the elders of Zion pretty much to perfection, right? I don't know. Like the old Soviet Union breaks down. He rides to populist wave and then becomes the autocratic dictator and his oligarch friends. Like, isn't that the, isn't that the playbook? That's kind of the dream. Yeah. It works. Yeah. Well, unfortunately, unfortunately, the Jews weren't involved. They're in play. So this, I mean, as Russian citizens, you know, that's true. That's true. That's true. But I'm just saying that they didn't, they didn't pull it off. No, no, no. It took a fucking spy. Yeah. But be that as it may,

in that moral spot, very moral and it tells the truth. Always. Everybody knows this. What Alex is mostly referring to there is that Putin had just given a speech about how we arm Al Qaeda and Al Nuzra and all that shit. We did. And because it, so did they. And because it matches Alex's narrative, which also conveniently matches Russian state television, Alex is like, well, he tells the truth and the whole world knows it. And he's taking his international news specifically from pro-Russia sources. No, if Alex thinks Alex tells the truth, then he has to think Putin tells the truth. Right. And that actually leads us to our next clip, which is kind of interesting. As we know from our second episode, we did the Y2K episode. We went over

what Alex was doing on Y2K, which was disgraceful and fearmongering to a crazy degree, saying that there were concentration camps being set up at airports. Austin was out of gas and water. Yep. It was insanity. Which he could see from his studio. He was reporting that there were multiple power plant meltdowns. It was insane. Space command. He had a caller with unnamed sources who saw on CBS. Yeah. Also the department of transportation is out. That's right. They're everywhere. The DOT is out on the streets. The Arkansas department of transportation is on Austin streets right now. Yeah. So it was disgraceful, but one of the things he said, go back and listen to the Y2K episode. It's a, it's a fantastic situation.

Yeah. All you late arrivers to the podcast, go back and check out the archives. Anyway, one of the other things he says is that Putin has ascended to power and he resembles a demon. That was one of his big, big things. And that's because right around. Yeah. I mean, it was New Year's Eve that he took over for Boris Yeltsin. Yeltsin went out and Putin stepped in from the prime minister position to the president and has basically been in power since. Yeah, but didn't, wasn't there a time period where he quote unquote stepped down and then let somebody else do it? No, he became the prime minister again and then became a president again. Yeah, I was going to say, just went back and forth. He's not, he's not really worried about losing power.

No, but Alex was very anti Putin and the Y2K episode and there's a reason and Alex might have been wrong about that reason and he discusses it in this next clip. You know, I took the bait that Putin in 99 had bombed his own apartment buildings and he still may have, he was the vice president, he needed to be able to attack the Chechens that were working for the West, trying to peel away several countries away from Russia. I'm not defending the bombing of apartment buildings. They did bomb apartment buildings that were working apartment buildings. Yeah, you're pretty much exactly doing that. So the most born in the buildings when they did it, still terrible and Moscow police or a suburb of Moscow police caught FSB in a building with

a plastic explosive and then they said, oh, it's part of a drill. So there's a good chance Russia has engaged in false flags. That is Vladimir Putin has when he was vice president, but there's not total proof of that. But I was told by a lot of other Russian experts that though that was done to actually destabilize Russia and to try to take the fight away from Chechnya into Russia itself, but that's not the effect it had. But that's why I say we can't sit here and completely trust Vladimir Putin. All I know is Putin's not trying to take my guns. True. All I know is Vladimir Putin is not trying to force vaccines on me or GMO. Yeah, he doesn't live here. All I know is Vladimir Putin is not trying to teach my seven-year-old how she can be a man.

All I know is that Vladimir Putin is not trying to make me drink fluoride. Vladimir Putin is not funding ISIS and ISIL and all the rest of these western back groups. And Vladimir Putin is not trying to bring in a one world government. Oh, he super is. That's exactly what he wants. But it's the- He just wants to be at the top of it. He doesn't want it to be collaborative. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no. He does not like the whole everybody getting together. So one of the things I think is really fascinating there is that he demands so much less proof of things that would make Putin look bad than anybody else.

Oh, well, he took the bait that Putin bombed his own apartment building. He thought it was a false flag. He may still have. He thought it was a false flag back then, and it still might be, but it's not 100% proven. Yeah. He's never said that about anything. No. That is a crazy level of, you know what? It wasn't Putin. That's what he's saying in Alex Jones' language. Yeah, exactly. Now, would you like to learn a little bit about this? Even if it was Putin?

Then it wasn't. Oh, okay. Do you want to know a little bit about them bombings? I think I would like to know a little bit. Three apartment complexes were bombed in various areas in Russia, three cities, between the 4th and 16th of September in 1999. Coincidentally, just a couple months before Vladimir Putin became the president. It was a big part of the power grab because it was the excuse for the Second Chechen War,

which was what Putin rode to power on. Interesting. There were 293 deaths. So Alex Jones' mostly weren't anybody in the building is absurd. Almost 300 people died. Over a thousand were pretty seriously or mildly injured along that spectrum. Now, the thing that I think is more important is that multiple people who have come out and said that it was the Russian government and the FSB, what the secret service in Russia turned into, they've died mysteriously. Not all of them, but enough that it is very curious. Alexander Livnenko, the guy who got poisoned with polonium, one of his big things was that

it was Putin who did that, did these apartment bombings. Also Boris Boris Obsky, he also died under very mysterious circumstances. There's one other dude whose name I'll never be able to pronounce. They all died mysteriously. So you talk about this as though there's a pattern for Russia, specifically Putin, wherein people who challenge him or criticize him publicly wind up dying. I need you to provide at least 64 more examples of that. I don't have 64.

Because I can only provide 63 other examples. I don't have 64. And 63 isn't enough. Maybe Putin did them. Maybe he did. We'll take your 63 and add this one to it. Okay. So an MP named Yuri Shekin, there's no way. That's not good. He filed two motions for a parliamentary investigation of the bombings.

Oh, that was a bad idea. But the motions were rejected by the Russian parliament, the Duma, in March 2000. An independent public commission to investigate the bombings was chaired by Duma deputy Sergei Kovalev. The commission was rendered ineffective by the government's refusal to respond to its inquiries. Two key members of the Kovalev commission, Sergei Yushenkov, and Yuri Shekin, the guy who has his name I can't pronounce, have died in apparent assassinations. The commission's lawyer, Mikhail Trepashkin, was arrested in 2003, convicted in a closed military court and released from prison in 2007.

So he probably got some good treatment in there. Wow. I would assume. So some of the circumstantial stuff that surrounds it, these mysterious deaths of dissenters, the commission being completely stonewalled, and then multiple people who were involved in the commission dying in very mysterious circumstances around that time, it doesn't look good for Putin's story. Now, this is a lot like if, like instead of firing Mueller, you just killed all of his staff.

Right. Like that's basically what. All these lawyers on the team. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Just like Mueller still leading the investigation. Unfortunately, everyone around him is dead, including his family. He is doing his best, but yeah, we don't have good hopes.

Currently, no one knows where he is. Yeah. I mean, it's not, this is very within the realm and the scope and the pattern of what happens. Right. When you dissent in Russia. It is weird because it's a lot like a movie. Yeah. It's a lot like those spy movies where you, you, you think that that's made up and yet

in Russia, they do kill people all the time, assassination wise, clandestinely, and they try and make it look like it wasn't an assassination. Well, I mean, in the case of Levinenko, the, like Polonium, that's a message. Sometimes. Yeah. Sometimes there is a bullet in the forehead on Putin's birthday. Right. So that one, that one probably wasn't a false flag there.

Yeah, but I mean, it's really like, it's so intellectually dishonest for Alex to be like, Hey, you know what? I got suckered into this, you know, conspiracy theory that Putin did that. But he's only right 99% of the time. Nobody's perfect. Nobody's perfect. Right. Sometimes you get it wrong.

Sometimes you get Y2K wrong. Sometimes you get Putin's false flag wrong. Sometimes you get everything else he's ever said in his entire life. Every financial collapse prediction. Yeah. Yeah. Gold is going to be $50,000 an ounce. Man, that would have been great if we were listening then and we knew it.

And that was reality. Yeah, exactly. That would have been amazing. I know, right? Yeah. We could have put our very small amount of money into gold and become very rich. We could have pooled our money and made $49,000 because it was like one grand or so for an ounce then. So like we could afford one grand, maybe, and not eat for a few weeks.

Right. Yeah, that's great. Anyway, guys, that's troubling. That's very troubling to me to hear this sort of pro-Putin rhetoric. Yeah. Because even with his qualifications of things, it's still resoundingly pro-Putin. Absolutely. The only reasonable position to take is looking at the prism of history,

looking at the bombings in 1999 is to be that was a pretext to go to war in Chechnya so you could have a power grab. Yeah. That's essentially what happened. Very simple. Very much so. Yeah. So and the fact that he even, he even says, you know, like maybe he still did it and just

wipes that away immediately. Totally. Like even if he did do it, it wouldn't have mattered. Yeah. Because he likes Putin now. Right. He's cool. Yeah, that's cool.

Problem solved. So Alex, after this, he takes a few calls. He gets on the blower and here are a couple calls that he takes. He wants to talk about Putin's speech. Thanks for calling. Alex, he sounded so much like you if it wasn't for the translation on RT that I would have thought you were on the stage. That's not good.

So Putin's speech sounds exactly like Alex. He said that very positively. Yeah. Yeah. That's not good. No. Also, why was he watching RT? I don't know.

There's probably a heavy overlap between his audience and people who go and watch Russian media. Weird. Well, it's the same. It's the kind of thing that Alex encourages. Oh, that is true. I mean, because he pitches narratives from Russian media. Well, because the American media isn't telling you the truth.

Right. So if you're listening and you want to look into one of Alex's stories, or maybe there's, you know, it's something that's linked on infowars.com, you want to go try and find the source, you go and you end up finding an article in Sputnik or an RT or something like that. Yeah. And then you, you know, Alex is telling you, this is the truth. Everyone else is lying to you. All of a sudden, you're going to associate Russian media with telling the truth.

And the fact is they're the ones who are telling you what Alex is telling you. And the fact that everybody else disagrees is only more proof that you're onto the real source. And Putin spends as much time shirtless as Alex does. It's true. Has a very similar body type. Hair, a little bit different. Sure. But Alex may be wearing a wig or Putin may be wearing a bald cap.

Any of these things could be. Any of these things are true. So he takes another call and shockingly also about Putin. Aaron, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Go ahead. Hey, how's it going, Alex? Good.

Hey, you know, I was just thinking about this. You know, in the beginning of Putin, when he was first running his reelection campaign, he's running around with his shirt off, horseback in, shooting guns up, you know, just completely demands man. Everybody, you know, I'm a man, right? That's clearly a ploy, but they're, but they're promoting masculinity, being in charge and having strong families. The globalist here promote an effeminate Obama on purpose.

So, so what Putin's doing, I think it's healthy to have a John Wayne Stahl president. But what I'm getting at is they're doing it on purpose because Obama, what does he do? He appoints a civilian gay person that had like the Defense Department now and he's completely demasculinating the military. Exactly. Demasculinating. It's like, it's a design. It's completely...

It's a complete program of ending the family as we know it and making Americans the most broke back, servile, a knock-kneed, weirdos you can imagine. That is incredibly homophobic. Yeah. Because what is he talking about there? What is he talking about? What's the plan? Having a gay person be in an official position?

Well, yeah. That's demasculinatizing. So there's a gay... Demasculinatizing. That means that there's a gay agenda or at very least gays are being used. There is a gay defense agenda because he is... Look. The Defense Department.

If you want it, look, if you're going to put anybody in the Defense Department, you want it to be gay people. They have been defending other gay people for their entire existence. It's true. They know what they're doing. That's what I would suggest. Also, maybe the other thing I would suggest is put somebody who's qualified, who can do a good job in there, regardless of whether or not they have sex with anybody.

Wait, do you want qualified people in office? Gross. You sound like a globalist. Turns out competence is... Lock her up. Lock her up. It turns out globalists are big on competence. Yeah, yeah, no.

That's something that we now regret with a nationalist in office. So that is... Well, Tillerson is... He's doing a great job. Did you notice? He's not there. And neither is anybody else. I just realized today because I didn't...

I was kind of like... Tillerson is one of those dudes who's like... He fades into the background a little bit because there's so much swirling bullshit. Right. But do you realize that that story came out about in like a couple years back, Exxon, with... While he was in charge of Exxon, they broke sanctions with Russian banks and Russian companies. Of course.

And do you realize that he went on his little hiatus right after and that no one is like... You don't get to take breaks like this. Nope. We don't have a State Department. What are you doing? Right. Anyway. Quiet, Dan.

Oh my God. Quiet. I'm so... We don't have a State Department. It's bananas. We still just don't even have people working there. No. I did a bit about this before the election actually happened.

Dan has rolled his eyes at me. I think they could hear it. I think they could absolutely hear it. And now I shall go silent. No. No, what's your bet? No, no, no. I'm going to put the mic down, Dan.

How about you play a clip? Ladies and gentlemen, come to the stage. No, I'm not going to do the bit. My point to the point was... You could see them at clubs and colleges. The point was... That Trump didn't want to be president. He wanted to win president.

Right, right, right. He doesn't want to do the fucking job. And neither does any of these other people. They want to get their money and they want to leave. So for Tillerson, why waste time and energy staffing the State Department, all you really want is to siphon money and resources as much as you can. And really every single person that you bring in is a risk of them like sort of cucking you out. Yeah.

And doing their job. Right, getting in the way of the scams. Right. So we're done with September 29th. And my man, we are into October because on the 30th, Paul Joseph Watson hosts. And there's a really funny moment at the end of the 29th where Alex is like, I'm not coming in tomorrow. He's not mad or anything.

He's just like, Paul Joseph Watson's going to host the whole show tomorrow. I realize I got to spend more time with my kids. Because they will be leaving soon. I'm going hunting. We're going hunting. I haven't taken my kid hunting enough. So they go hunting. So we go now to October 1st.

And on this episode, you might have thought that like, all right, 29th of September, he was in a weird mood. He's going to go hunting with his kid. It's going to fucking wash off him. Everything will be back to normal when he gets back. You might be thinking that. Right. All over the world, people know that America is no longer the good guys and they're saying

Putin's the leader of the free world and that Putin's a hero and Americans all over the place. Left and right. Love Putin. Putin's a billionaire oligarch with all sorts of shady connections and a strong man. The difference is though, he doesn't put fluoride in the people's water and he does have a breeding program. So Russians don't go extinct. And he is trying to build up their civilization.

But never the less, he is a strong man. That was a positive. I wouldn't call him the paragon of perfect behavior. But compared to the absolute abject filth that has hijacked our culture and society, he is good. So all you need to know there is like, you can just ignore all the negative things he's saying because those aren't really even negatives. He's a strong man.

That's not a negative to Alex. He's a strong man. Alex loves a strong man. He's a man and he's strong. He has shady connections. Well, apparently that's not a problem for you. You seem to get past that pretty easily. What's strong man doesn't have shady connections.

That's a fair point. You got, you know, if you're going to be in the, in the world, you're going to get your hands dirty. You're going to be strong. You got to make sure that you have killed at least one dog named nonc. Absolutely. And Putin has killed at least three dogs named so many noncs in his past. So, uh, I mean, he's there, he's back.

He's just, that's, that's fucking also he said that Putin has a breeding program. Like that was a positive. He's like, he's going to repopulate Russia with a breeding program. Well, this is that sort of racist idea about other cultures outbreeding us. And that's going to be genocide by, uh, by just population numbers. It's something that David Duke and his ilk talk about all the time. And we talked about it on Alex's show even talking about how the birth rate among white people is way too low and Africans and Muslims are outbreeding, uh, the white man.

And eventually they're just going to overrun us due to numbers and so like that. And I would argue on the one hand that's again just projection because it's like well, if we had the numbers, that's what we did in the past. Yeah. So there's that we're going to do it because we have it coming. Yeah. Cause we did it already. Yeah, exactly.

And I guess if you want to use historical precedent, that does make sense. But at the same time it like we're not in feudal times anymore. And most people are evolved enough to, to be like, I don't care what race I am. I'm not joining a race group and God, you would hope so. And so anyway, Alex believes that, uh, Putin, uh, is encouraging the family and encouraging white breeding, uh, which great, uh, and that's going to defend. Really don't like that. But I mean, he never couches it that way.

He never says it, but that's what he means. Yeah. Of course. Absolutely. But the other thing is he's, he's like saying that in sort of incredulously, cause if, if, if, if he said, if Alex says breeding program, what I hear is Putin is creating Russian chimeras. That's what I hear.

Oh, sure. So that's why I was a little bit confused there. Uh, I can't remember what show it's on. We don't have any clips of it, but there's a lady who comes on and talks about how DARPA is creating human, uh, not human, but animal machine chimera. Oh shit. Yes. So we got that.

Fuck yes. Yeah. So, uh, but the other thing I wanted to point out in that clip is the incredulousness and Alex Jones' voice. You know what that means? I do. That means nox coming back. He is beyond machine repair.

But be that as it may, Alex is incredulous in his voice when he's saying like Putin is the leader of the free world. Everyone is saying that Americans love Putin and he is great. He's saying that in that sort of like disbelieving voice. Yeah. Because he's reading that from Russian media and he thinks that's what the world thinks because Russian media media is reporting that that is what the world thinks. Crazy.

So Alex Jones is, he's responding to propaganda by making a second layer of propaganda on top of it. Yeah. That achieves the same goal, quite frankly, because even though Alex is being incredulous about what he's reading on Sputnik and shit, he's still saying that he then goes through the talking points. Yeah, yeah. He doesn't want to put fluoride in my water.

Nonsense. Nonsense. Sorry. Take a point. Yeah. You're at negative one. All right. So this show also involves a very interesting field piece in this October 1st episode.

On this episode, Joe Biggs is out on the University of Texas, Austin's campus because there is an anti-gun protest going on. I have a good bit of information about this. I know exactly what went on. There was a move to allow concealed carry on campus at the University of Texas, Austin. Yeah. There were a bunch of people, students and professors who were against this and they started to try and block this legislation.

They tried to move against it because campus full of guns is not a comfortable place for people to be learning. Wasn't this immediately following the, what was it, North Carolina? That shooting there? Well, a bunch of shootings have happened in the course of our investigation. Yeah, that's true. And there's one in Oregon on October 2nd, I believe. Right.

I can't remember if it's the 1st or the 2nd. Right. But if only there were more guns. Yeah, but be that as it may, like Alex's position is that if you take away guns and don't allow guns on campus, then it is a safe place for bad people with guns to go. They know that it's a soft target and they can just shoot up people on school campuses. And my argument to that is you should have like cops, should have campus cops who are armed and stuff like that.

Because that's official, that's. I mean, my argument is if everybody should have their guns taken away. That's my argument. This is where we're, you and I are going to have to differ. I'm going to, I'm going to go, I'm going to go hard on this one. As I said, I've, I've gone from the let's be reasonable to let's take their guns. Did you ever see any fistfights in college? Did I?

Yeah. Um, no. I did. I didn't go outside though. Oh, okay. I was very much against it. I saw a lot of fistfights on campus. I saw a lot of really heated fights.

I know the testosterone's flaring. A lot of people are experimenting with drugs for the first time in their life. The idea that people who are 18 to 20 on campuses, even older necessarily. I mean, people who are older students, who are maybe veterans coming back or something like that. I, I know that there are different situations than those kids that I'm talking about, but at the same time, I still don't want them on guns. But like those young kids who are volatile and growing and full of new experiences,

I really don't feel comfortable about the idea of them being armed in the off chance that they do get into a heated argument with somebody and maybe they get their ass kicked. Now, boom. Well, not least of which you, you allow the opportunity to escalate anything. That the thing that he thinks is that people walk around knowing that there is concealed carry. And so they feel like, oh, we're protected. That is the complete opposite.

I don't feel that way at all. If you were on UT Austin's campus and you knew there was concealed carry laws, how do you not kind of have in the back of your mind like, does this person have a gun? Yeah, totally. Is the person I'm talking to, do they have a gun right now? And are you going to pat people down whenever they go into the fucking class? Like, this is insane. And imagine the situation you put professors in when you have to give bad news to students.

If you fail them or they come to your private office hours, stuff like that. You put them in an incredibly uncomfortable position where anybody could be armed. And you know what? People get thrown out of school for grades and stuff like that. Yeah, not for guns though. No, but if you're allowed to have guns on campus, all sorts of like, there was a, okay, so I wrote for my campus paper and I got in trouble. I believe I talked about this on the show.

Yeah, you got some death threats. Well, that's not what I want. That was another time. One time I made a joke about Rosa Parks about how when I was in junior high, all the cool kids sat on the back of the bus. So I don't know what the fuck she was complaining about. Right. I was intentionally obvious joke.

Obviously misrepresenting things for comedic intent. This guy who was a member of the student government did not like me because I had written an article about him and his friends. Had used student funds in order to take a trip down to South by Southwest. And they claimed that they were trying to find bands that could come get booked on campus. That is. When it, I saw his pictures on Facebook. That's a great scam.

They were just drunk. That is a great scam. Sure. And as an adult, as an adult, I respect the game. But at the same time, I had this campaign against the student government because I think that student government's stupid. Why is there? It's so stupid.

Yeah. But I uncovered that and I was, I wrote an article about it. And so he decided he was going to try and get me kicked out of school. I wrote that joke about Rosa Parks. And based on that, that joke, he reported me to the student judicial services. Okay. And I had to go have a meeting with a guy that was formal. He, I got a confidential letter.

That's great. It wasn't an envelope marked confidential. That's great. And so of course I took a picture of it and put it everywhere. Of course. My friends. Yeah. What are you talking about?

Confidential letter. Yeah. Fuck you. I think I even wrote about it in my column. Yeah. Of course you did. So they, well, how could they enforce a confidential, it's a goddamn college. Yeah.

I don't agree to this letter being confidential. Yeah. You don't get to do that. So I had to go and meet with the student judicial board, but it was just one guy. And in that situation, had I have been a crazy person, I could see that situation being very uncomfortable. And I'm just one of a thousand people that that guy's had to meet with. Yeah.

Over the years. There are a lot of people who do get into fights or get arrested for something. Then they have to meet with the school judicial board that decides whether or not they get kicked out of school. And that could be fucking heated as shit. Because if you get kicked out of school and your mind is of a certain bent, that could be like someone taking away your life. Well, think about the places where guns aren't allowed.

Like, like courts. Right. Do you know why? Because they get heated. Yeah. Because people have a lot to lose. And if you're crazy, you could do something really stupid. Why, why would you?

Like that's if your argument also concealed carry makes everybody safer. They should be everywhere in court. Just to put a button on it. I did not get kicked out of school. Yeah. No, I made a mockery of the proceedings and the guy was like, you didn't do anything wrong. I was like, I know. But yeah, you and me both brother.

Then you fist bumped and you moved on. But yeah, I agree with you. He was like, student government is dumb. Right. Amen. Yeah. So yeah, it's I think that there's very good reason for especially public universities to not allow concealed carry.

And I think I think the arguments that we've made are not even as good as people who are in the activism world about it would make. But anyway, here is the. I would actually rather have open carry than concealed carry. Because then at least you'd know what fucking asshole had it gone. Well, then we turn into the deep space nine millimeter video. Keeps coming up. Yeah, absolutely.

But be that as it may. Here is the clip of Joe Biggs and Alex Jones talking about this. You're about to go to break. I'm going to come back and finish up with you and go to calls. But I noticed I am hearing some cheering. There are about 10 people on the stage flown in by Bloomberg. And they did find some UT idiots to come out, I guess. But some of them are pro gunners and call for taking our guns, I guess.

Yeah, they're all screaming gun for UT, gun for UT. So they're showing video of it is a sparsely attended protest and what have you. But Alex Jones says that they're flown in by Bloomberg. I actually have. Wait, he just said though that it's UT Austin. Yeah, but there's some UT idiots, but he's talking about people in the crowd. Oh, okay. But the speakers were flown in by Bloomberg.

That's a really interesting thing. And I can actually tell you that he's just making that up. Because my dad is super involved in a gun for UT. Yeah. And he was not at this protest, but he's a part of the organization. Right. He is not. I actually texted him.

I was like, Hey, Dad, you ever get any money from Bloomberg? Well, he couldn't tell you. He got a classified letter. Come on, man. So my dad is involved with this because he firmly believes, as I do too, that guns have no place on college campuses, except in the hands of professionals. Let's say I'm talking about cops are okay to have guns wherever they are, because that's part of their job.

But my dad is a part of that. He is involved with the organization. He assures me that no one has been flown out by Bloomberg at all. And my dad, if you want to talk about him being a shill, go ahead. Throughout his life, he's had a very consistent protest streak. He has been very active in left wing causes. Let's say back when we lived in Missouri, every single Wednesday, with a few exceptions when they were busy,

my parents would go out and protest on the busiest corner in Columbia with about eight people, eight to 10 people standing around with honk for peace, no war in Iraq signs, every fucking Wednesday. They do that. They are the sort of people who are committed to goals, committed to causes, have principles, and stand by them. He is a good example of the people who are involved in gun free UT. These are not Soros, Bloomberg shills.

These are UT professors who are deeply concerned about the idea of people walking around randomly with guns on campus. So fuck you, Alex. No, I've heard this year he's seven and O with a 1.3 RA too. He's on an impressive winning streak. Yeah. So also the other thing I want to talk about, but I need to give more information from my dad is that,

so Alex talks about how there are two people who got arrested at this protest, two counter protesters got arrested. And they make a big deal out of it. They're saying that you don't have free speech and what have you. But they didn't get arrested. They just got removed for trespassing because they were being disruptive. You need a permit to protest on campuses. That's pretty universal in college campuses in the United States.

Some campuses have specific places where it's a free for all, but they had a permit that gun free UT had a permit. These dickholes that showed up didn't. That's the difference. Shocker. Yeah. So, but what I need to get more information about is like he's, my dad was like, I wasn't actually at that protest.

I was busy, but the other protest, the next one I was, I was a speaker at that protest. I mean, he refers to it as the dildo protest. So something went on. There we go. You don't know what the dildo protest is. No, but it's in Austin and like, I know that Alex will bring it up when it happens.

So once we get there, I'll call my dad and get to the bottom of it. You'll get the full story. Dildo protest coming up. Everybody, everybody concealed carried dildos. Is that what it was? I hope it is. That's actually pretty good. Yeah.

I don't mind that one at all. No, what I do mind is after this, Alex is back on his bullshit and he wants to talk more about Russia. Yeah, no Russian TV says GMOs designed to sterilize you and that they're giving too many vaccines. I know it's like Russia's turning into info wars. Not good. Not great.

Not great. And info wars is turning into Russia. Yeah. I think that he might not be able to tell which is which at a certain point. Yeah. I think he sees the melding of the two and in order to save face, he wants to be like, I'm the one who started it. Yeah, they're the ones coming to me as opposed to I am now Putin's bitch by accident.

Which I think is probably how he's going to sell the Trump stuff. I mean, you know, with him saying that Trump is an Americana sleeper cell and stuff like that, that is a way of Trump coming to him as opposed to him selling out for Trump. Yeah. So I think that's true. I think that's kind of one of his big moves. And then of course he ties it together with the strong man. It's always about the big strong man.

Yeah. So we have one more clip from August 1st and then we'll get to August 2nd, which I think is fucking amazing. But August 1st ends our coverage at least because he has a bunch of interviews, but I just don't really even fucking care. Yeah. Who do you have on here on this guy named Joel Scouson on? He's boring as hell.

I believe he has an interview with Peter Schiff. Okay. That lunatic. Making my jack-off motion here. Right. But anyway, this next clip is fucking wild. Well, maybe you can get Putin on and ask him. You know, it's funny you say that.

Oh, no. You got very close to getting Putin on. The problem is I'd have to get on an airplane and go to Russia to do it. I can get a sit-down interview probably with Putin. But I mean, he's just going to say what he's going to say. I can sit there and play clips. I'm already saying it'd be a nice stunt for me to pull, but I could have done an interview with Ahmed Denizide.

He wanted me to come interview him. I'm not going to say that other people want me to come interview him. It sounds insane, but anyways, go ahead. It does sound insane. So, yeah, I mean, he could get a sit-down interview with Putin. Yeah, totally. Why does he think he could get a sit-down interview with Putin?

I don't know. Maybe he has. In what world does Alex get a sit-down interview with Putin? Well, I mean, if he actually does think that he could get a sit-down interview, that implies to me that he has connections. Some kind of contact with him. Yeah, but not directly. No, of course.

Some sort of indirect contact. Yeah, no, there's no direct contact. Almost like maybe he's talking to Roger Stone off-air a bunch. And like Roger Stone has some sort of a connection to the Russian government. Maybe he's accidentally slipping something like that. I don't know. It's weird. That's possible.

Yeah. But I'm not saying that definitely, but it's definitely worth speculating. That's because even he says it would be narcissism. Yeah, exactly. He even says it would be a big stunt on my part, which means he wants to do it. And he's such a huge star fucker that the idea of him, he would get on a plane to Russia this instant if Putin actually sat down for an interview with him. Undoubtedly.

Instant. Undoubtedly. Yeah. I mean, he was pissed. He went crazy for Heidi and Spencer Pratt. It's he's pissed that Megan Kelly sat down with Putin. Yeah. He was pissed that fucking Sean Hannity sat down with Julian Assange.

Right. Like he's like, those are scoops I should have got. I'm the fucking best. Yeah. I've got an audience bigger than theirs. So now, Jordan. Yes. I told you that October 2nd is amazing.

You did tell me that. And I'm just going to let Alex start the show off. And I think you'll see immediately why it's so awesome. You know, it hit me this morning. I woke up at about 6 a.m. with a pounding headache. And I'll just be honest. I'm not going to be hypocrite here. I'm going to put on airs or lie.

I went out to see Billy Idol last night. And then I guess the crew was down there and nearby establishment and heard I was there. Joe Biggs, Joe Jennings, Darren McBrain, Marcus Morales. And I have not had a lot to drink like that since I was in college. And they bought me a bunch of shots of what was it? It's a Yeagermeister. And I feel like my brain has been taken out with a melon baller right now. But I think you're going to have a good broadcast today.

Oh man. He's the worst. Oh my God. I actually respect that so much. That's just him going on air. Just being like, guys, I am a hungover of shit. I've been doing a lot of shots of Yeager. I think we're going to have a great show.

That, that at the end, I think we're going to have a great broadcast. It's so good. That's just like Eddie attempt. He's trying to convince himself. Yeah, exactly. I think it's going to work. I wonder how the crew is doing. Joe Biggs was there.

Like Joe Biggs actually has to come in and co-host the show with him because he's doing such a shit job. How does, how does Joe Biggs do? He's fine. He's, he's fine. He's a fucking soldier, man. He can drink Yeager. That's no big deal.

Alex hasn't done this since college, which is a fucking lie. We know it. Yeah. But well, I think he hasn't drunk this much Yeager since college. Certainly. I think he's had many a, many a bottle of Jack on a Tuesday. Yeah. I, I have not touched the, the demon Yeager since weird night at the casino.

Since last night, I was buying you a bunch of Yeager shots. We're going to have a good broadcast, guys. We're going to have a great show. Um, so he doesn't, he's not good. What? Yeah. He's, uh, wait, what? He's in terrible shape and he is just doing weird rants kind of.

And then just not being able to handle, uh, his normal job. And so about 10 minutes in, Joe Biggs comes in and side cars the thing. Until he gets 10 minutes in. Yeah. Oh boy. Cause he accidentally would have told too much of the truth. Maybe like, I feel like that's more what it is like, or quite frankly, it does seem like the sort of thing where he could have just like I quit.

Like it seems like that's true. He could have a rage quit. I just got to nap you guys at any moment. He could have been like, let's go to break. I'm done. So I have Joe Biggs in there just in case it does feel like that sort of thing. But he, he gets like, I'm done. We're going to have Joe Biggs host the rest of the hour and he doesn't leave.

He just sits down on the floor and then rolls underneath the desk. It seems like a perfect opportunity for him to be like, guys, I'll tell you what. Whenever I'm hungover, I drink child ease. That's their product to calm children. Oh, wow. They have a supplement that calms babies. He's not going to do that. He knows none of his supplements actually work.

I drink Pedialyte and call it child ease. So, uh, Alex is hungover his shit, but he still wants to try and do the news. He wants to try and do his fucking job. So here he is getting to today's top story. And that brings me, of course, to our top story today, ladies and gentlemen. It's not that foreign troops from China, Iran, and Russia are piling into Syria to fight the United States of America and Europe bankrolling al-Qaeda. No, that's not our top story.

It's not our top story that was in the Associated Press Reuters, the New York Times, just that I saw yesterday with the State Department criticizing Russia and the Pentagon criticizing Russia and the Secretary of Defense criticizing Russia. So good. For bombing al-Qaeda. So he's misrepresenting that, but he's also, I mean, he's saying that the top story is all of these people are critiquing Russia and shouldn't be. Right.

He's getting defensive. It's not that, it's not that China and a laundry list of made up globalist countries are putting troops into, what was it? Syria. Syria. Yeah. 01:11:42,480 --> 01:11:42,480

01:11:42,480 --> 01:11:42,480 01:11:42,480 --> 01:11:42,980 Right. Yeah. In order to fight America, back and fund all of the bad guys. 01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:50,880 Man, he hates America. Hates him. For somebody who loves America so much, he sure does want it to burn to the ground.

Yeah. The fact that he's so fucking willing to buy into Russian propaganda about Putin indicates that he doesn't really have that much. It might be. New theory. He's not really American royalty. How could the South rise again? Russian backing.

Well, there we go. Why else would these people who hate America so much love Putin so much? What they're trying to do is secede again. If at first you don't secede. You're joking. But I will take a negative one point for that one as well. I don't, fine. I don't, I think you're joking, but you might not be too far off from what Alex would like.

I don't. I know he doesn't want Texas to be in America. No, it doesn't seem thrilled about. He's Confederate royalty. He is. Well, he calls it Americana. No, I'm going to go with Confederate. So like I said, he's all over the place.

My family is so Americana, we tried to leave it. And I now defend everything Russia does. Based on bullshit I saw on state run media. Right. So this next clip is just a great example of Alex being hung over and just being like off the leash. I don't know what's going on in his head. I have no idea, but this is, this is wild stuff.

Why do you think the EPA came out and attacked sunlight two days ago and said it's bad? Why do you think Cass Sunstein wants to make a law where you can't say sunlight's good for you? Every doctor until 20 years ago said your kid's sick. You're sick. Get out and get some sunlight. Yeah, sunlight will kill you, but not having it will kill you. You got cancer. Do you understand that?

You understand that? Get out and get some sun. The sun will set you free ladies and gentlemen. That's why they hate it. These people are literally vampires. And by literally the legends of vampires are only a wives tale around the fire to describe what the elite are to kids that aren't that complex to understand. You stay away from the castle and you don't get near the castle at night and you don't fish down

there in those palms by the castle because there are people that will grab you and will put you in a dungeon and will drink your blood. Now, do those people live forever? No, but they will grab you and they will torture you and they will drink your blood. They are vampires. Okay. And that's what we're facing, folks. And until we realize that these are people that hate the sun,

these are people that hate life, these people are from hell. The globalists hate the sun. The globalists hate the sun. But let me tell you something, Patriots. The sun will set you free. That's my favorite line. That's a fucking hug over there. And that's a wonderful line.

The sun will set you free. That sounds like me when I'm really hung over and I'm just blowing hard about something. These people are literal vampires, not vampire legends. That's really about- Yeah, I like that. I like that. Listen, don't go down to the castle, especially don't fish. Right.

That's a really important part of the vampire tales. I remember Dracula, there was a huge chapter about how Renfield went fishing and that's how we got captured. Right. That's what happened. Totally. And then Renfield came back and told people you should go fish over there. Or to try to get them up.

I just caught three carp. What? Three carp. You got to get down there and fish and hold. They could eat for a week. Let me teach you this lure. Chompa-chompa. It's-

So, I mean- Chompa-chompa. It seems so, like, I don't even know how to unpack that in terms of like, what do you think literally means? Like in this case, at this case, what extent- Do you mean is he saying literally meaning literally or literally meaning figuratively? Yeah, exactly. Like, does he mean literally in the sense that these people like Obama,

these people like George Soros are- Who we have never seen in sunlight. I have. But like, they're literally afraid of the sun and they are literally going to drink your blood. Is he saying that? Because if so, this is stupid. It seems like he means it. But if he's taught-

That literally has the ring of a man trying to convince you it is literally true. If he's talking figuratively, then I guess you could say that the sunlight is truth or something like that and drinking your blood is taking your essence. No, no. Taking your life energy away from you. No. But I don't think he means that. I think he literally means literally.

Adrenochrome. Yeah. Adrenochrome, my friend. Anyway. That's what we're all about. Anyway, so this next clip- As a card carrying globalist, I have drunk the blood of several children today. This next clip is still hung over Alex quite a bit.

This is after him screaming, do you think I want to fight with black people? Do you think I want to fight with Hispanics? Do you think I want to fight with the Catholics? Do you think I want to fight with the Muslims? Yeah. So far. That was my answer, yes. I think you do.

Pretty much 100%. I think you absolutely do. You have done nothing but try and pick a fight with those people. Yeah. So that's after that- I cut out that part because- Because we've already- Well, time constraints, you know, like I just-

I accidentally started the clip at a certain point. I'm like, I'm not going back for the rest of it. It's just one of the things. You know, if I had- If this was my job- If this was my job, we would have the rest of the clip in there. But I got a fucking day job, so deal with it. Anyway, the rest of this clip is pretty hilarious.

It won't matter that we just beat the hell out of each other. It won't matter all the stupid stuff they put between us. This is him saying that if we all see the truth, and that is that the globalist are attacking us and- And it won't matter what that stupid shit they put between us. Right, the stupid shit that you're doing, Alex. Yes. Once we understand it was all done to us on purpose to keep us blind from the truth,

you can break that trance just like that the minute you want to. You could be free the second you decide. It's all about free will. But let me warn you about something. And I'm not copying the matrix. It's an allegory. It's always been true. All I'm offering is the truth, nothing more.

Because once you realize the true horror of this, it's going to change your world forever. And you're not going to be able to just sit there calmly anymore and go through your bumbling life worried about fantasy football or acting tough to your buddies. Because when you hit the rock bottom of this situation, you're going to get the million mile view of the whole stinking thing. And there's no coming back from that rabbit hole. But here's the secret.

You're already in the rabbit hole. Wait. The secret is. This is all about the choice you're going to make. Hi, I'm Alex Jones. I'm going to try and get my voice deeper and deeper and deeper as a weird way of trying to convey sincerity while I ramble about bullshit. I like how there's no coming back from the rabbit hole that you're already in.

But here's the secret. You're already there. Right. Too late. And you can be free any moment you want to. But you're going to go. If you're not free, you're going to get into that rabbit hole secret. You're already in the rabbit hole.

You're never going to be free. That's what he's saying, right? He's hungover. Yeah. You know, I can't expect him to make sense when he's doing his weird. I don't even know what that voice is. It's gross. I think it's the Dan LaFontaine voice.

I think so. In a world kind of thing. In a world. Yeah, it's that's gross. In a world where a man thinks the matrix is real. Right. First of all, that like I'm not ripping off the matrix. I'm not ripping off the matrix.

It's an allegory. I am going to quote it directly. I am going to say word for word. Exactly what is in the matrix. I'm not literally quoting the matrix. I'm just quoting the matrix. Yeah. And then the other thing that I love is that like once you see it,

you get a million mile view of everything. I was like, well, that might be. Not from the rabbit hole though. But that might be your perception, Alex. You might think that you have a million mile view, but you're a distrustful narrator. Like I don't believe. Well, he's still in the rabbit hole.

That's the secret. That's the secret. He's already been there the whole time. He can just see out of the rabbit hole. Right. And you can. Well, you're just doing the allegory of the cave now basically.

01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:16,320 So I mean, I think he loves that too. I'm probably, I bet he's a huge fan of The Stranger. I think he loves that book. Right. Yeah. What else do we got? I got nothing. I do have another clip though.

Okay. So this is a. He's a big fan of Billy Idol. I know he writes a lot of apocalyptic songs. Good night for a white wedding. Drink it up, Alex. The white wedding? That's a rabbit hole.

That is. Let me tell you the secret. Let me tell you the secret. The secret is the rebel yell will set you free. So this next clip, Alex is talking about this Oregon shooter and apparently he was asking people if they were Christians and if they said yes, he was killing them. Yes.

I remember. In the same way as Columbine. Yeah. That's always been one of those things that pops up whenever people feel like it should. So they're discussing that him and Joe Biggs are having a little chat about that. And then Alex Jones says something that I think any

Christian should be probably offended by. And I don't think any real Christian would, would say this. Well, frankly, that guy's not worth the truth for me. I'd just lie to him. I'm not, I'm not denying Christ. When I get it goes back in the Christian deal, you know, to three times, you know, for the cock crows, you're going to deny, deny me.

I get that. But, you know, I like speaking to Bohemian Grove. I don't lie on issues that affect people. But I mean, I'm going to be lost. I lie. I mean, did you ever lie when you were in combat? Like when you were doing something like with the farmers?

Oh, of course. Just to keep things calm so stuff doesn't escalate. Yeah. So I mean, I'm not defending lies. I'm being honest about lying here. I don't know why I just digressed off into that. I mean, I would never lie about a product. I never lie about serious issues.

Never lie about the news. I wouldn't lie about an issue. Yeah. All right, bro. What if the issue is whether or not you are a Christian? Yeah. What about that? Seems like you would lie about that real quick.

And now Jordan, it's time for you to read from Scripture. Let's see which one we can start with Mark 838 for whoever is ashamed of me in my words in this adulterous and sinful generation. The son of man will also be ashamed of him when he comes in the glory of his father with Angel. Interesting. Let's go now to Matthew 1033.

Whoever denies me before men, I will also deny him before my father who is in heaven. That one's pretty clear. That one's pretty clear. Don't deny Christ. Don't say I am not a Christian if you are. Yeah. Kind of a big deal for them.

And you, I mean, you know, they made a martyr out of that girl who at Columbine, she said yes, girl. Yeah. I don't even, I feel bad that I don't remember her name, but I'm super not into Christian propaganda. But he that is it may, they made a really huge deal of how, what a great example this girl was who felt so committed to Jesus that in the face of death, wouldn't deny him.

Right. That is the idea of religion. And she went to her everlasting reward for it. Absolutely. Whereas for instance, if somebody were to have said no, Jesus, when they reached the pearly gates would have said no. Right. Now, I am not sure I believe in pearly gates and religion as a whole.

Well, they're mentioned a lot in the Bible. Don't you remember how often they talk about the pearly gates? All the time. All the time. But what I want to say is you can tell a person by sort of how much they stick to their convictions. And Alex Jones, one of his big convictions is the globalist are running the world secretly and blah, blah, blah.

Another one is that he is a good Christian man and religious conviction in his conception, the way he presents it is one of the most important things to him and it's defining of him. And the idea that he would so easily go against very literal, very clear scripture and deny God just because he doesn't want to die because this guy isn't worth my honesty. That's a great argument. This guy isn't worth my honesty.

I don't think Jesus said anything like that. Someone who wants to hurt you isn't worth telling the truth. Well, he was talking about Jesus. He said this guy, Jesus, isn't worth my honesty. Oh, that could be. Because that's basically what he's saying. I mean, spiritually, yeah, that is what he's saying. Yeah.

Because Jesus does demand your honesty and pretty much all the time. Yeah. That's one of the big commandments. Yeah. He also said, keep my commandments if you recall. Did you ever, did you ever hear that one? And the one of those was that she'll not lie. Yeah.

So Alex, you are not a good Christian if that is your mindset, but I'll give you a pass. You're hungover. I don't know. I mean, it might be just talking shit, but at the same time. Well, when I'm hungover, I definitely am going to lie about whether or not I would say. You commit sacrilege.

Yeah. That's what I do. The other thing, the other thing though is I love that moment when he realizes, oh, shit, I'm talking about lying. I got a fucking spin. Well, that's the shit that Joe Walsh just tweeted out where it's like, at least he's honest about lying. And you're like, that you shut up.

He's fallen so far since the Eagles. Yeah. So we just got to who among us has not been dragged down by the Eagles. Oh, sure. You see Don Henley stumping for Trump all the time. Let he who is without a win cast the first stone. So this next clip is, Alex is still hungover. And, you know, the adrenaline of doing his show hasn't really helped out,

but he's found something else that might, and it might be a commercial. Super male vitality. A fist is sore from trading punches with Joe Biggs. You think I'm 14 years old again last night. You want to know how good brain force is? I didn't mean to do a plug right now. I wanted one. I'm tired.

I'm taking one that I forgot this morning. Brain force. Yeah. Brain force sitting here is like 10 pills left in it. And some little mouse around here is eating my brain force. So I just had to go get another bottle during that break. Super intelligent. Open it up.

And then it was painful opening. That's why I made the fist comment. It wasn't punching Biggs. It made my fist hurt though. Punching a steel door. But I still got it. I pulled in it. That was a little parlor trick in high school.

Punched the school doors and dent them. Girls got impressed by that. And the next guy would try it and break his hand. What's the big secret is you got to have your hand basically broken pretty much all the time and then it doesn't hurt so bad. It's like a spongy smash. Now I'm joking. That didn't happen.

I'm trying to act tough to impress everybody, folks. Anyways, getting back to what I was covering earlier. On the whole DARPA situation. Secret is not minding the pain. Whoa. Pain don't hurt. Pain almost reminds you you're alive. It's weird.

You have pain long enough. It just becomes part of it. It's weird. Anyway, side issue. That is a man who is hurt all the time. That's so sad. Like we hate him but like that's so human. I mean, it's a little hacky in terms of observations.

Oh, very much the same time. It's the deepest he can get. Right. And if you're watching the video, he's staring off into the middle distance. He's really reflective. But he's like sometimes pain has been part of you so long. It's just just there. It's like, dude, you're revealing a lot in this hangover.

That's crazy. Also, you impressed girls by denting walls in high school. He impressed you by denting walls in high school. That did not impress me. He just told you he was doing that to impress you. Were you impressed? No, he was telling the stories to impress us. Yeah, exactly.

But then he was just straight trying to press them girls. Well, the trick is to always have a broken hand apparently. I guess I know because in the breakdown, he's like, actually the truth is the secret is not minding the pain. Pain don't hurt. Oh man. So I guess I should have been punching more walls because he fucking banged out 200 girls before he was 16.

So I don't know. I don't know what's going on with Texas women, but apparently denting a door is all it takes. Everything is bigger except their self-esteem. Oh, well, I mean, I mean, oh, damn. I don't actually that's generalizing a lot of Texas. I only went for half of it. I actually don't mean that at all because I don't believe

Alex's story about his course at the same time. If it were true, if that many women deemed to lower the standard is true. That is how you address on Twitter. Alex Jones has had sex with hundreds of women before the age of 16. Troubling, if true. Not big, if true. Oh boy.

So you might think that last clip beyond the humanizing of it with the like that really sad and Alex is kind of making a fool out of himself talking about as a 40 year old man, he's out punching walls with Joe Biggs in order to impress them and he's telling the stories on the show to impress his audience with his masculinity. You might think he's been sort of made a fool of. Yeah.

You might think that. But he has. Does he have a response to that? He doesn't. He has another clip about people who have been made to look like fools. Oh, okay. We're not trying to be alarmists. I am alarm though, so I'm not going to lie to you.

I am freaked out. It is what it is. Russia has completely upstaged the United States and made our criminal government look like absolute fools. Which I don't even particularly like because it's our country, not the globalists that they're using and running in the ground. A lot of people are all happy that the Russians are going in and killing Al Qaeda and blowing up Al Nasser and going after IS.

And yes, I'm happy about that, but this is part of a larger globalist operation in the final equation that discredits this country. Because we could take this country back any time and turn the prosperity engine on, cut the taxes, cut the spending, make all the welfare folks start working, stop paying for the anchor babies. And this country would go to 10% growth rates in a few years. Historically, I mean, we did till we got the Federal Reserve. We did till the Great Depression.

The first 150 years this country was like heaven. I know some people that it wasn't for. I can't think of anybody. Think of anybody throughout American history for whom the prosperity engine did not work perfectly. The first 150 years of our country. The first 150 years. Yeah, that's painfully closed-minded, very narrow focus on that.

Oh yeah. Also the Great Depression. That's whenever it stopped. I can't think of any reason why the prosperity engine, so to speak, was turned off. Could it be because it fucking caused the goddamn Great Depression? Why do you think it was turned off? Because it was at fault. Yeah, yeah.

Turn off the engine. Yeah, and you know why the Federal Reserve exists? I can't think of any reason either, Dan. Because before the Federal Reserve existed, first of all, the value of the market was so volatile. Everything was up and down and up and down. Yeah, because of that fucking prosperity engine. Right, that's a big part of it.

And since then, there has been a massive stabilization of it. Secondly, before the Federal Reserve existed, anyone could make their own money. People could just make money that they backed with whatever. Yeah, sounds fun. No, it doesn't. It sounds super fun. No, it doesn't. Oh, absolutely.

It's a very disorganized way to run a country. Which by the way, we will also be issuing knowledge fight bucks to everybody who donates. You will get knowledge fight bucks redeemable at Disney World? Sure. So for the first 150 years of our country. Right up until 1910. Black people were enslaved. Yep.

Women couldn't vote and you could hit them. Yep. And it was totally cool. Men and the family ruled the world. And children were forced into work. Prosperity. The prosperity engine was fueled with slaves and children. The Chinese were forced to build the railroads.

Yep. And a lot of them died in the process. Can't think of it. I can't think of why they would be frustrated with that. That's reductive. There was a lot more abuse of foreigners than just that. Man, do you know who might have had the best time for the first 150 years of America? Certainly no one who has an overlap with white nationalists.

I can't think of anybody. No. I mean, it's weird. You know, all the white nationalists, they probably kicked ass. Yeah, it's weird. It's weird that that's the way his mind works. I wonder if there's a lot of white nationalist propaganda built around the idea that we need to go back to when America was great.

And a lot of white nationalist propaganda that talks about how Putin is one of the good guys because he embodies that sort of thing. Celebrating prosperity as a family. They're making our criminal government look stupid. Yeah, they're fools. Because their criminal government is way better at it. Right. But they love the family.

They love the family. They want white people to breed more. Absolutely. Yeah. Good stuff. We're done with our clips, but at this point, I'm furious. Like, quite frankly, because we don't know what's going on with his mind and Trump, but this has taken a harsh pro-Russia term.

It is like before. It's suspiciously harsh. And you might think immediately following the money bomb too. Right. You might think that I'm selectively editing stuff and like, oh, he was talking positively about Russia before and I just was leaving it out. No. We've talked about some pro-Russia stuff creeping in to his rhetoric.

And now it's just the entire- Oh, no. The entire shows are about Russia being good. Yeah. And I don't know what to make of it because here's the deal. We keep coming to new conclusions about what the fuck happened in 2015 because we didn't come into this with a like, this is what happened and we're going to prove that it happened.

Right. All we knew is that he went from I fuck Trump to I love Trump. 1776, 2.0. That's the only thing we knew. And with each new piece of evidence that we're finding, it changes the way we're looking at this. And like, when we found out that the money bomb was coming up right at the end of the fiscal year, it became so clear that he's in financial crisis.

He's in bad financial straits. He needs to try and keep water out of the ship. He needs to bail some water out. And so he does so with that million dollar money bomb. And we thought that that was it. We thought like, this is going to be it. Or even before that, we thought, oh, the first debate is going to happen. And he's going to insult Megyn Kelly.

And that's going to be it. Alex is going to be like, I'm on board. I hate Megyn Kelly too. And that wasn't it. I thought this was going to last at most two months past Trump's candidacy. But everything keeps changing. Now he's just on a complete Russia kick. And I don't.

And a Yeager kick. And I don't know what to do. I don't know what to think. Because to me, I'm starting to think, and I texted you a little bit about this. Yeah. I'm starting to suspect on some level that Trump is not as important to Alex as we might have been thinking. I'm starting to think that maybe Trump was a means to supporting Russia for Alex.

Holy shit. Okay. And I don't know if that's too crazy. All right. But that that seems, man, I just can't hear me out on this. Okay. I need, I'm going to need way more than just all the shit we just heard. Yeah.

Yeah. I am going to need more than all the shit we just heard. Okay. Here are a few things. Okay. One, Alex's support of Putin clearly predates his support of Trump. Yes. True.

So that's one. The people that Alex Jones has spoken about already in our investigation very positively who end up being involved with the Trump campaign are Jeff Sessions, who is clearly involved with Russian folk. Yeah. And. Crimes. Yeah.

He's clearly involved with the crime. And General Flynn. Who is also involved with the crime. Yes. So those are the people that he has already spoken of as heroes. They're the ones who end up getting involved in Trump's campaign. I just don't see, I mean, I just don't see how that can be a reasonable thing. Because then we're talking again, we're getting into a straight up collusion situation.

Well, no, I don't think so. If he's selling out America to support Russia, that seems, that seems a lot, that seems like a long way to go. Okay. Well, let me try and put a finer point on it. Maybe that'll help. So it Alex Jones, his primary objective is fighting these imagined globalists. Yes.

Right. He believes that Putin is doing that. He believes that Putin is essentially the only enemy that is against the globalists in the international stage. And they hate him for that. And that's why he's kicked out of the G8. And everybody sanctions him because he won't go along with the globalists. Right.

He can't outwardly support Putin. He can't do that. He can't turn his show into an out and out propaganda fest for Putin. But what he can. Even though it's halfway that already. Right. But if he went full on, he would be probably subject to some investigations. Well, yeah.

And at the very least, you'd think the Patriots would be like, hey, you love it or leave it kind of. You seem like you might like him too much. Yeah. But actually, I think a lot of the Patriots like Putin too. I think you're probably right. Patriot movement does work. Well, especially now, since he's the same thing as their guy.

So I think on some level, whether it's honest or whether it's sort of coerced by some sort of third party, there comes a time. I mean, we keep spinning balling like what could happen. And I recognize that this could be wrong. But the way my mind is looking at it. Probabilistically, the way our speculations have gone in the past. It's most likely wrong. Probably.

Or in the end, the truth is all of our speculations have been partially right. Yeah, that's always possible. We'll never know. Right. Just like the end of clue, everybody did it. It's like the Orient Express. Yes. So the way my mind is looking at this now is I think that there's a decent chance that someone

behind the scenes, maybe someone whose name rhymes with Bodger Crone, was convincing Alex that Trump is fighting the globalists, that he is actively fighting the globalists, and that Putin and him are on sort of the same team in as much as they are against the globalists. Therefore, Alex can vent all of his positive feelings that he has about Putin and place them on to Donald Trump. Okay. Because that would be a much more acceptable way to promote all of these narratives that come from Russian media that he's clearly beholden to and do it in a way that would probably not get him

a foul of espionage investigation. But that presupposes that he actually does believe his own bullshit in the globalists. Right. And is not just a scam artist. Right. It's hard to say. Right. Like if he, like even if he does believe in the globalists, it is clearly an amplification

of that on his show. There's no way he genuinely thinks that the globalists are this, what, extensive? Honest. This powerful? Honestly, at this point, I could believe either. I could believe that, no, he is this fucked up off air and probably miserable. Right, right. Or I could believe he's a complete, he is always with pain.

Or I could also conversely believe entirely that he's amplifying it for effect. See, we, I still contend that with what I know of Alex at this point, which admittedly is nowhere near as much as you. So I could be missing the forest for the tree. I don't know about that. But to me, there has to be somewhere along the line. It has to be money. There has to be money involved.

I don't disagree. I think there's probably some money involved. It's possible that could still be a piece of it. Or it could be a thing where, like we talked about with when Joe Biggs went to the Trump rally, they saw that there was a massive untapped market of people who didn't know what Info Wars was, but do seem to believe in a lot of the weirdo-libertarian stuff. Right. That they do.

But that doesn't explain the Russia shit. That might just be more intrinsic. That might just be more like, this dude's got a big swing and dick and I'm into that. Whereas Obama is thoughtful and controlled. No, you're missing a piece of this. The reason that the Russia thing is there for him is because he believes Russian media. He believes these stories that come out of Russian media about how Putin is secretly trying to defend Christendom and that he didn't actually blow up these apartment buildings.

All of this stuff that he's secretly the good guy in Syria. But then we get back to the Starfucker thing because there are so many anti-American media's out there that it can't just be that he likes Russian media because they're anti-America. Well, Russian media is really good. Like they are. Oh, they're slick and they're well produced. Yes. Is that what you're saying?

They're the most convincing propaganda outlet in the world, save for maybe ours. Maybe we have some pretty good propaganda here. Well, I mean, you look at North Korea, maybe their production values aren't high, but they got a pretty solid handle on everybody. They're aggressive. Troubling. Yeah, true. But I don't think that their propaganda is nearly as exportable and people on the outside are.

Oh yeah, absolutely. And it's very clear with North Korea, how much Kim Jong-un and Kim Jong-il before him were just make aggressive dictators. 01:42:56,960 --> 01:42:57,520 Yeah. Whereas. But how can you not? How is it not clear that Putin is an oppressive dictator?

Again, I think it's that they're because he believes the state media is pretty slick. I think that that is a big part of it because we're seeing all of these narratives that clearly are rooted in something straight out of Russia, whether it be Sputnik RT or that dystrovia source that we talked about the other day. Yeah. The Russian info wars. Yeah. Or all of it's becoming info wars.

Yeah. Well, that's true. So, I mean, of course he would see like is like like, you know, that I see there similar to me. Now I like them. I don't know. I don't know. And I want to be clear. I want to be totally clear.

When I make these hypotheses and speculations, I'm not in any way saying that Alex Jones is or ever has been a Russian agent. I'm not saying that I'm saying. But the fact that he's denied it makes it more likely to be true. It's possible. He is a liar. That'd be fun if it turns out that the like we need to send the FBI a hot tip on if you investigate Alex, the whole thing comes down.

I'm starting to think that maybe that's true. Quite frankly, Alex is our linchpin for the entire Russian investigation. Well, but here, here's why I think that might, there might be some credence to that. And I know that it's fucking masturbatory for me to say that as a guy who hosts an Alex Jones podcast. I get it. It turns out we are the most important podcast in the world. I don't think that turns out. I don't think that at all.

It turns out maybe the only way to take down Trump is with us. No, but Alex Jones is incredibly unguarded and dumb a lot of the time. That's true. And he basically provides three to four hours of evidence against himself every day on the air. And it's all online. So I think stupidly, I think that there are indications and clues that you can pick up from that that you probably couldn't from if you have a questioning session with somebody, it might not provide as fruitful evidence of just put them in front of a mic hung over for

three hours or just leave them to their own devices. That's true. Get Alex drunk. And the whole system comes crashing down. Right. These fucking do Donald Trump, Jr. out. Sessions gone. Donald Trump, Jr. needs to get Alex in rehab if he wants to survive.

Yeah. No kidding. Actually, I think it's too late for him. But be that as it may, like we hope. So if I can, if I can say. But see, that's the thing, especially like I don't go for it. I'll let you, I'll let you get there. No, no, good.

I was just stretching my neck. I wasn't being disapproving. Sorry. I'm serious. Okay. No, the thing that does it, the thing that crushes me about whether or not anything will actually happen is what just happened with Tamair in Brazil. He was caught on tape bribing people to not be investigated for corruption.

Literally, you can hear him admit to bribing people. Right. And he should be fucking put in jail for it. But the Brazilian Congress just voted to keep him as president. And because they did that, he cannot be arrested or prosecuted under those very illegal charges. So to me, the idea of anything bad happening to Donald Trump is built entirely around whether or not our Congress actually gives a shit. Yeah.

And right now I'm, I'm leaning towards no. It doesn't look like our institutions are going to protect us at all. No. It, it looks like we're fucked. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I don't know what it is.

Like what, like they've, Mueller today has just gotten grand jury shit. Yeah. He's just getting that whole process started. I think a lot of, I think a lot of stuff's going to move pretty quickly. Well, that, that's, we're talking months though. I know, but I think there's going to be a lot of leaks. Yeah. Well, so, so far I don't think we're, I don't think we're running low on those.

Now that Ryan's previous is out, I think there's going to be a lot of leaks. I think you might have kept a portfolio. Yeah. I like the idea that he wasn't leaking while in the White House, but they fire him and he's like, well, fucking of course I'm going to do it now. I would not be too surprised if that was the case. Also, I want to say this, just because I, like, I don't think anyone's necessarily pointed this out.

Maybe someone hasn't, I haven't seen it. There's no goddamn way I would believe that Anthony Scaramucci was not fucking leaking stuff to Cernovich and to Alex Jones. Yeah. They 100% were getting stuff from him. So his whole like crusade against leaks is crazy to me. Well, he's against the leaks that he's against. Why do you think Cernovich?

That's the truth with all of these people though. They're against only what they're against. If it helps them, even if they're for it, it doesn't matter what it is. I'm against leaks, except for the leaks that help me out. Right. Like it's always, it's always the, it's always the, the Alex Jones argument of, well, they're doing it to us, so we have to do it to them. Yeah.

Even though, you know, fucking you guys are idiots. Yeah. Like that's, that's the, that's the operational playbook that they use. Yeah. I'm freaked out a little bit because this investigation is going into weird places that I did not expect it to go. I never would have guessed that before he supports Trump and months after this investigation started, he would just violently ramp up the pro-Putin rhetoric.

That's wild. Yeah. That is, that is super system, especially knowing what we fucking know now. This is a week after the money bomb. About how aggressive Russia has been in their, and Compromat campaign or whatever it is. And our intelligence agencies have come out and said on record in congressional testimony that they first indicated Russian either media or persuasion campaigns in 2015. In summer of 2015.

Yeah. Which would be right around this period. I think that Alex is falling for stuff. I think that that is a piece of this. And now we'll see how it bears out over the next section of our investigation. I mean, be fucked up if on August, or excuse me, October 3rd, he was just like never spoke about Putin again. Yeah.

That would be wild. That would be weird. But well, he's still saying pro-Putin, pro-Putin stuff today. Not as much, but yeah. Well, not as well. Well, yeah. It's a good idea not to bring him up at all on your show if your info. All he does now is just scream about how he's not a Putin.

He's not a Putin. He's not a Stooge. Yeah. And then how the chai comms are worse and stuff like that. See that, but the more, the more he does protest too much. It's like, I mean, every time he has to reiterate that he's not a Putin Stooge. Right. And he has to say someone else is worse.

Yeah. The only defense is. Which is the exact same shit that Trump does. It's the exact same shit that they do with what they should be doing is investigating Hillary's 33,000 emails, not the obvious pro-Russia campaign that I'm dealing with. Right. And that gets back to our discussion we had the other day about people who should be taught rhetoric.

So you could immediately tell the what about technique that people use to deflect from arguments that they have no response to. Yeah. What about when you did X, Y or Z? Like, well, that has nothing to do with what we're talking about now. But by the time you get that out, they're already off to the races. Yep. So, Alex, your house is not in order.

Alex, the fuck is going on with you, man? You're a wild boy. Are you okay? Also, does it still hurt? It hurts all the time. Does it still hurt, Alex? Pain just becomes part of you. And you know what else should be a part of you?

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