Knowledge Fight - #703: 9/11, Part 1

Episode Date: July 18, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan celebrate their landmark 703rd episode by finally covering perhaps the most important day in Alex Jones' career, September 11, 2001. Citations Dreamy Creamy Fundraiser

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George, knowledge fight. I need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding us. Hello, Alex. I'm a Christian color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. Knowledge fight. Knowledge fight.com. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around and worship at the altar of Celine and also talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are Dan. Jordan. Dan. Jordan. Quick question for you, my friend. What's up? What's your bright spot today? My

bright spot today, Jordan. Well, side bright spot. Side bright spot. My aunt was in town this weekend. Oh, yeah. That's right. And we went for dinner. I went to she was a flip in the bill. We went to Morton's The Steakhouse. Almost got a Sunday. They're legendary Sunday. You didn't get there. Well, but I was thinking about doing it for the dreamy, creamy summer. Sure. But I saw them walk by with one and there was no fucking way. I was it's it was like a fish. I know it is a massive it's a fence. It's an entire meal unto itself. You should go there just for that. Yeah, but it was a very nice time. It was great to see her and her husband. But the bright spot is polar seltzer. Oh, a flavor out. And I tried it and it is the best. Really? I honestly think that this would

do numbers in the year of the seltzer had it been around. Right. Right. It is a pink apple lemon flavor seltzer. And it is right on honey, honey, crisp apple, my friend. That's what I'm talking about. I'm fascinated by this pink apple lemon. So it's like a lemonade plus a honey crisp apple. No pink apple and lemon, not pink lemonade and apple. Right. But I mean the pink I've never heard pink apple before. What about a pink lady? What about a pink lady? That's a kind of apple. I understand that. But it's oh my God, honey, Chris. We're talking around each other. No, we're not. This is not going to be solved. You're the one who's confused. I know exactly what I'm trying to think of the flavor. It's so good. Okay, you do know exactly what you're

talking about. It's refreshing. I believe you. Oh my God. I like apple juice, but sometimes too sweet. Too sweet. I also think it's a little bitter. Right. Right. But I also think that sometimes those like ciders that you get at a bar, a little too tart, a little too sour. Yeah, not good. This is right in the middle. Nice sweet spot. Good stuff. So good. All right. Probably 97. Oh, shit. Yeah, that is there. I can think a few ways that it could be better. Right. Well, I think I think low key might be the best. All right. Well, we'll see if that's recency bias. I'm going to have to say that you're going to have to start over from the beginning and retaste all of those from the top. Let's go. What's your bright spot? My bright spot is

Dragon Ball Z, my friend, as we I'm regressing. I'm clearly regressing into a childlike state. And I was like, what am I? What do I need to do? And I realized I needed a soap opera. And that is what Dragon Ball Z is. It's just like professional wrestling. It's a soap opera with fight scenes from time to time. It's all about the build up. And then the fight is actually kind of boring, honestly. It's very predictable. Sure. The whole thing. And the formula is nonstop the same. Nonstop the same. A commitment to a formula so stayed and boring that it's almost admirable, honestly. Right. Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm barely paying attention. I'm really trying to figure out a way to make RuPaul's Dragon Ball Race Z work. No, I can't make it work. It's not going to

happen. There's a pun in there, my friend. I really wish there was, but I think he better minds than you have driven themselves mad trying to find it. I've seen the best mind of my generation driven mad by trying to make this pun. Fuck. Yep. Well, I'm glad you're enjoying that. Yeah. Well, I mean, enjoying isn't quite the word, but it's good. So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over and I'll explain all about it in a moment. But first, let's say hello to some new wonks. Oh, it's great idea. So first, the look of confusion on the waitresses face at Olive Garden when I tried to order the Lionel Spurling Getty. Thank you so much. You are now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. I'd like to do punch up on this. What? I tried to order the Lionel Spurling

Getty and meatballs. Okay. That's that's a little bit better. Yeah. Gotta gotta see if we were in a workshop talking about jokes. Sure. You need a tag on there. That's the meatballs. Right. Right. Right. Anyway, next live tonight, it's Dr. Tootson, the Bachelor Squatch Trio. Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Oh, boy. Sorry about this one. A little bit late. Oh, no. Hey, this is a shout out. Happy Father's Day to Paul Griffiths. You're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Happy Father's Day to all you fathers out there. Next, Narc Art Funkle. Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. And we got a couple of technocrats here in the mix. So first,

Don Ford, voice of fantasy and adventure. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. And Luke loves Josie and both of us love this podcast. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. I have risen above my enemies. I might quit tomorrow, actually. I'm just going to take a little break now. A little break for me. And then we're going to come back. And I'm going to start the show over. But I'm the devil. I got to be taken out of here. Fuck you. Fuck you. I got plenty of words for you. But at the end of the day, fuck you in your new world order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit. Maybe today should be my last broadcast. Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.

Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again. That's really what I want to do. I never want to come back here again. I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. I'll be better tomorrow. He's not never will be and never was. Nope. So today, Jordan, I'm sick of Alex's bullshit. Sure. The publicity stunt shit from last week. Just very annoying. Really bad taste of my mouth. Really drains you. But simultaneously, there's not a lot of other very good outlets to look into. Jim Baker, dry well. Dead. There's no more Squatch talk on Project Camelot. So

I don't know where to go with that. Can't go back to the forest on that one too many times. No. And I did check in on a number of episodes of 2003 and I was just boring. Boring like wasting my time. Oh, no. Just a whoo. And so I realized that there was something that I had been meaning to do for a while. Oh, and that is go over September 11th, 2001. Oh, no. Oh my God. Do you know how funny that is because of the bra the did you see the picture going around? No. Apparently ESPN's Yankees Red Sox. Oh, that picture. Yeah. That picture is so funny. Ground zero. Yeah. Those very twin towers of New York and Boston Red Sox. Yeah. So this is a little bit of weird timing. Amazing. But here's the situation. Like one of

the reasons we haven't covered this already was I didn't have access to the audio initially when we first started this podcast. You know how to find it. I didn't know where it was. Right. And so that was a limiting factor. And then as we got further into the podcast, I kind of thought we'll save this. We'll save this for something. And stupidly, I was like, we'll save it for like we do it live or do a live show. Oh, no. And gradually that felt like that's never going to be a good idea. Nope. And it just the can got kicked down the road. And I don't know, an argument could be made that a professional podcaster might have done this for like episode 700 as opposed to 704. I really don't understand why. Why have we numbered our episodes in the first place? It

was a bad idea. Neither of us remember. It's just a way for people to have shorthand for like it was in 205. Right. I don't know. People asked me to do it. So I put numbers on. Well, see, and now you're you're beholden to the numbers game. But I'm not exactly. Clearly. But that's how we are doing September 11. And it's Father's Day on a unimportantly numbered episode. Yes. So here's the here's the syllabus. Alex was on air during the day. Right. And that's what we're going to be talking about today. Then on Wednesday, we're going to be covering Alex's evening show is used back on air from nine to midnight. Oh, boy, that night. Yeah. And so obviously, there's going to be different amounts of information that he's privy to different things will have happened.

Right. And so over the course of these next couple episodes, we will experience his immediacy. And he's like, I've had a little time to simmer. And we'll see if there's any differences. We'll see. We'll see how this goes. It's nice to go to the past and him being correct about Saddam son still being alive. That's a, you know, doesn't come up doesn't come up though, in a very weird way. That makes sense. So one of the other things to one of the other reasons that it was motivated to go forward with this for now is that also we're going to be in Austin and we're going to be, you know, doing a bit of like present day coverage of Alex. And it feels like let's let's have some fun while we can. We're going to be doing plenty of present day Alex for a while.

And I worry that a lot of that will not be super informative in the way that I kind of like a lot of the our show to be. Sure. There's revelatory things when you go to the past. Right. Experience stuff that's like, wait a second, what the fuck are you talking about? Right. Right. There's not as much of that in the present day. So we're recapping in the present as opposed to revealing and some like, can you believe this? Yeah, I know. Right. Can you look at this asshole? Yeah. And so, you know, smoke them while you got them. Yeah. The feeling I have. That's how we live. So here we go. Here is how Alex is starting off the show. And I will say that this is about exactly what you would expect. He's recounting the events that have happened up till the point

that he gets on air himself. Well, I've been warning you about it for at least five years. Wow. Terrorism that we've looked at right at the gate center Oklahoma City to Waco has been government actions. They need this as a pretext to bring you and your family martial law. They're either using provocateur Arabs and allowing them to do it. Or this is full complicity with the federal government. The evidence is overwhelming to bring you up to speed on what's happened at 8.50 a.m. EDT plane hits World Trade Center 9.20 FBI says at least one plane hijacked 9.30 Eastern Second Jet crashes into World Trade Center. Plane hits Pentagon 9.40. Federal officials said a U.S. airplane has hit the Pentagon. The crash comes nearly an hour after

two planes hit the World Trade Center building. All U.S. buildings in Capitol Hill evacuated 10.13, 10.15. World Trade Center South Tower collapses 10.20. Report explosion at Capitol. 10.30 U.S. congressional leaders top cabinet officials moving to secure facilities. 10.30 anchor another hijacked plane reported 20 minutes south of Washington, D.C. Second Tower North Collapses hijacked plane crashes south of Pittsburgh PA officials investigating at another hijacking with a plane headed towards D.C. And 10.45 all federal buildings in D.C. have been evacuated. So, and then we're told other planes are in the air. They're finding bombs at schools. We don't know how many of these reports are accurate. We know the two planes have crashed in the World

Trade Center. So, here we see the way Alex opens up the show on 9.11. And there's a couple of things that stick out to me in a pretty serious way. Sure. The first has to do with the end of that clip where Alex says that we're told there are other planes in the air and they're finding bombs at schools. But he's clear in this statement at this point. They had no idea if the things that are coming in are accurate. Right. There is an understanding that the immediacy of the events creates a fog of uncertainty. And that's not something that feels the same as how Alex operates today. No. The second thing I found really interesting is that Alex's take on this is exactly what you'd think it would be. Oh, yeah. Immediately this is declared a false flag. It has to be

because that's how the globalists are going to bring in martial law. But that didn't happen. There have been a lot of trends that have gotten worse since 9.11 in terms of surveillance and police militarization. But those things don't constitute martial law. These are the objectives of this false flag because they're the objectives Alex always immediately declares to blame his imaginary enemies for every tragic event that occurs. And this just fits in with that for sure. The third thing I want to point out is that Alex has already declared this a false flag. He knows literally nothing that will eventually appear in his documentaries about 9.11. All of the real or imagined anomalies that he points to in order to build his case. This is critical

because it really does illustrate how he arrived at his conclusion long before seeking out evidence, which is not a good process. I guess what I'm saying is that if Alex knew that this was a false flag hours before building 7 even fell, then he shouldn't be able to use building 7 in his explanation of what makes the argument that this was a false flag. All of the evidence he should need to present has to be in his head prior to his determination that this is a false flag, or else that evidence is no longer really evidence necessarily, or at least it's suspicious, that it could be trivia that he sought out to justify the conclusion that he wanted to push. And I think that description is really apt. If you look at the conspiracy theories that were

pushed in films like the Alex produced Loose Change, which is also produced by Infowars employee Jason Burmes, aka the Infowarrier, you start to get the picture that this was the process that Alex World was using to deal with information. That documentary had to be re-released multiple times because things in the film were debunked to the point that making their inclusion in the documentary embarrassing. They had to be edited out. For instance, in various incarnations of the film, Flight 93 was originally shot down and then it was diverted to Cleveland's Hopkins Airport and then that entire storyline was edited out of the final cut version. It's important to keep this dynamic in our heads as we experience the way Alex covers the day's tragedy. He already

has a conclusion and he's trying to find justification for that conclusion, whether or not that justification means anything or is even real. Yeah. You had quite a response there though. I mean that, one, have you seen the new edit of his 9-11 movie? I have not. It's just him going, and that's it. They've edited out all the embarrassing parts and that's what was left behind. All that's left behind is it being like, this is about me. You see that? Secretly, this is about me. Yes, I know that the World Trade Center is literally still on fire, but have I told you that I told you so? I mean, that is amazing to me. It's pretty shitty. In the present day, you hear him do shit like that for a mass shooting and you go, Jesus Christ, that's fucked up.

But you feel like that's with 30 years of being a giant piece of shit under your belt, to know that right out the gate on 9-11, he's like, boom, called it. That's his story. An insane psychopathic narcissist, serial killer level shit is what that is. I remember 9-11 and being at school when it happened, and I remember the teachers being very somber. There was a tone of a lot of respect. Totally. It feels really absent from Alex. And one of the things I compare this to is, if you listen to the episode of Bill Cooper after a tragedy, I believe, I think it was the episode after Columbine that you can find, and he's crying on air about the tragedy and how he feels for these families. He has kids. I don't want to

deify Bill Cooper. He's an asshole. No, absolutely. On air, he recognized on some way that the people are hurting and it's okay to hurt. Alex doesn't have that at all. No, he's an absolute psychopath. There's really no way to describe him other than a complete psycho. We are an hour and a half after the planes hit the building and he's on air being like, Ladies and gentlemen, the globalists have done it again. 9-11 is, wow. That is amazing. There were high school kids in my leading prayer circles. It was that kind of shit. Like people who weren't religious were joining them. Totally no. I walked in the door and there are people in circles. All of a sudden, they're praying to all kinds of gods, and you're like,

Whoa, Jesus. I recall that the school, the high school that I went to, they basically made a thing. It was like, if you want to go home, you can. Yeah. But if you want to stay at school, all the rest of the classes for the rest of the day are just basically going to be, we're just going to talk. Yeah. And it was kind of a, let's work through like, right, right, right. How to process what happened. And weirdly, I had a psychology class that afternoon. Listen, we're going to watch a movie. So that actually kind of dovetailed with like dealing with trauma. And like, I think, I think there was a, you know, a lot of that process went fairly well. This is not that. No, this is bad. This is, that's amazing. It's really weird to think that,

like I was in this class talking about, like everyone's opening up about their feelings about this. And like, some people had family who lived in New York and they're talking about their fears about it. Absolutely. Not being able to contact folks. And simultaneously in Austin, Texas, Alex is recording this. Called it. Nailed that one. Put that one on the board for Alex. Man. Put one in the yes column. Thank you. So here's Alex talking about who he's got to talk to that day. This is pandemic. This is one of the biggest stories of the last century. And now in to the 21st century, we're going to have Dave on clients and Joyce Riley joining us. Other Genesis host, one of which lives in New York, but we have an eyewitness coming up after this break in his cell

phone holes. Jim Wright, we also have a landline for him, but landlines aren't working too well. So it's nice to see Alex sort of, you know, recognizing the gravity of the situation. I suppose, you know, like, cause sometimes there'll just be like some weird anti vex fake talking point and they'll tell you to stop traffic. Right. Whereas this is the biggest story of his life. Right. Right. Right. And he's recognizing that like this is the biggest thing in the last century. Right. Right. Right. So great. You almost expect him to call Steve and Steve is in New York City. Just be, I did it. Just being like, Oh Jesus, Alex, you didn't even ask if I was doing all right. I was, I wasn't in the building, but I'm next door, man. Alex, this isn't going to make

sense, but you've got to call Leo Zagami. He did this. He's got it. Yes. That was one of the things that struck me is that Alex's bench for his guests is shallow. There are no heavy hitters that he can get on the show. Just other GCN hosts and this Jim Wright guy who's a personal friend of his who was there and saw the attack firsthand. Wild. I think he's married to Alex's sister or something like that. Sure. There's a familial connection. He's just a friend of his. Right. I like it. I know that he doesn't actually meet Steve Pachanica till 2002 and he won't run into Roger for like another 12 years after this, but it seems strange that he couldn't get like Steve Quayle or Joel scousin on some of these old timers who are like real anti-communist weirdos.

Yeah. Or even some of the loosely connected to GCN folks that would later be his standby experts like Webster Tarpley or Stanley Monteith or even Alan Watt. Not Alan Watt. No, of course not. The reality is that this doesn't mean anything, but it's something to note. They're like, none of the good weirdos are around at this point. It is just, it is just whoever else is associated with GCN or his friends with Alex. Yeah. Is it that so much or is it possible he tried to get in contact with them and they were like, do you realize that 9 11 is happening right now? I didn't cut this. No, they wouldn't because they're they're psychos. I think if people recognize that Alex was a useful place to appear, then right, then I think that they would probably make

time. Right. I think that Alex isn't a useful place to appear at this point. He does mention Benton K. Parton, who's a guy who, okay, see Oklahoma City conspiracy. He's a friend of Alex's and he's a former general and head of Air Force weapons development. That sounds true. And at one point his producer says that they were trying to call him and they're getting a busy signal. And so Alex announces on air, stop trying to call Benton. We need to get through as if he knows that his audience have his phone number, which he might. They might entirely possible. Yeah. We know that Larry Nichols gave out his number on air. Right. Now I'm now I'm in this place where I'm like, is there is there a heist putting together a crew moment for Alex

where he's like walking into Webster Tarpley's bar one time and just like looking at him across there and it's like, it's time to get back on the horse. You know, like that kind of thing. If it was a bar, it would be big Jim Tucker. That's what I was thinking. I was thinking of big Jim Tucker smoking cigarettes. Yeah. Jim like looks up from a glass of whiskey neat and he's like, I knew you'd come. It's time for another job. Right. Horses to Bilderberg. Absolutely. Yeah. That's what needs to happen. So Alex has some evidence that he points to to build his case that this is a false flag. And of course, here's the biggest part of it. If you go to info wars.com, you'll find some interesting evidence there. The story from back in April out of the Baltimore

Sun where the Joint Chiefs of Staff were caught wanting to blow up civilian airliners, attack the Marines at Guantanamo Bay using an army company disguised as Cubans, bomb Washington, D.C. We have the James Bamford story best-selling author, former 2020 executive with the CIA and NSA documents. The feds wanted to blow up civilian airlines, wanted to bomb Washington, wanted to shoot people in Miami as a pretext to invade Cuba in 1962. That is on info wars.com mainstream. But Kennedy said no six months later, his head was blown off. We have become a different society in 2001. So this is Operation Northwoods, but he doesn't use the name. He mentions it multiple times, but I don't know if he knows the name or if he just doesn't trust that the

audience will know the name and understand what he's talking about. Yeah, that is interesting. Yeah. Has has that been, I mean, clearly, I didn't know about it in 2001. Sure. It wouldn't surprise me if that particular thing gained more prominence or awareness in the greater conspiracy theory community for the past 20 years. No, I would, I would imagine so. But I would also imagine that if you're going to talk about this and you know a lot about it, you might want to give people a shorthand that they can use to look into it a little bit easier than, I guess I'll try and figure out what plan JFK turned down in 1962. If you know the name Operation Northwoods, it's a little bit easier to look into it. That is true. And I don't know if it's negligence or if it's just Alex being

obtuse. It could be, could be anything. Yeah, that's entirely possible. Could just be he's green, man. He's not, he's not, he's still young. He doesn't know everything yet. He's got years and hours of study to put in. Well, 15 hours a day for 20 years. Every day for 20 years. That's an insane amount of effort. Yeah. Do you know how many beats he could make if he was Kanye? 16. A total of 16 beats is the number he could make. So look, I think that Alex doesn't have great evidence, but here's a little bit more evidence. Back in 1993, it was in the New York Times, October 28th, that the feds trained the bombers, trained the drivers, cooked the bomb and allowed that bombing to go forward. They got caught because one of the informants recorded the FBI telling him

to let the bombing go forward because he was worried about being framed for it. What am I saying? I'm saying who stands to gain from this? Who has the motive? Who can bring you martial law and destroy your freedom? The government, it's not our government. Stay with us. So that's not true. And Alex can't prove any of this stuff about the prior bombing of the World Trade Center. This all comes from comments made by Ahmad Salem, an informant for the FBI who had a, you know, he was inside the group that was planning that bombing. From all concrete information, the FBI was aware that a bombing was being planned, but they weren't aware of the specific details. After the bombing, Salem recorded conversations between himself and the FBI where he made claims like that the

bomb was cooked with the supervision of quote, the bureau and the DA, but that's not something that's been substantiated in any way. And it was widely investigated and reported in the press at the time. Also, it's important to remember that Salem committed, admitted to committing perjury and also just lying a bunch. For instance, he admitted that quote, when he met his wife, he bragged falsely that he acted as security for the president of Egypt. This is from an article from 1995 in the LA Times, quote, he said he began working with the FBI in May 1991. During that time, he said he lied to an FBI agent falsely bragging that he knew Libya's leader, Momar Gaddafi and Iraq's president Saddam Hussein, as well as the military and atomic capabilities of other countries.

In addition to that, he lied under oath while serving as a state witness. So his credibility isn't strong enough to serve as the cornerstone of a conspiracy that the government did the prior bombing or 9 11. Right, right, right. But this is exactly what Alex wants to believe. So he will uncritically accept whatever information allows him to justify the conclusion he would reach with or without evidence. This is basically his whole game. Yeah, that's what we got. Yep. Yep. Here's my here's my feeling. Okay, if if you lie to the FBI and they believe you, that's on them. I feel like that should be the rule for the FBI. You should be able to you should know you're the FBI or the CIA. You shouldn't be able to just lie to the FBI or the CIA and

have them go sounds good to me boss and then get to work. That's insane. I think I think that it's fanciful the way you think I hold them to a higher standard of being able to at least look into whether or not a liar is lying to them. Well, whether whether or not who who is at fault for a lie. Sure. I think that it is indicative of your credibility if you lie. I agree. So that's more my point. This is this is a side point. This is a side point. You sound like a BTK killer, man. I sound like a BTK killer. Because you know he only got caught because he sent a disk to the police and part of the conditions of him sending this floppy disk to the police was that they had to promise not to trace it. So they did. Absolutely not. I'm not saying it's not

a crime. I'm just saying that the FBI should take responsibility for their own fuck ups. They shouldn't be like, Oh, I'm mad at this guy. I'm sure that guy committed a burgery and all that stuff. You just have some weird feelings about state honesty. It's about fairness. It is about a fair world and justice, Dan. You just think that people shouldn't be able to be punished for successfully lying. I kind of do feel a bit like that. But if you successfully lie to the FBI, then you won't get in trouble anyway, because you will have successfully lied to them. You only lie if they catch you in the lie. Right. But if they catch you later, it's on them. Well, I'm sure there's a statute of limitations. Sure. I feel like that's important.

You should be able to get away with it after six months. Great. I'm glad we had this policy session. This is a really good one. So Alex has a number that he's going to put on the percent chance this was a false flag. Again, four immediately. Five percent. No. Oh, we were able to get Jim via his cell phone there on the scene amongst all of the carnage. We should be praying for the dead and dying. Yeah, you sound sincere. And praying for this country. We got to heal this land, this modern Babylon that would create something like this. I'll tell you the bottom line, 98 percent chance this was a government orchestrated control bombing. I've been telling you this was going to happen. 98 percent chance that is high and pretty boilerplate for him. It's, you know,

there's a thing I'm going to discuss a little bit later, but you can already see the kernels of it. Sure. Feels like a little bit autopilot here on 9 11. I mean, other than like, I feel like he's excited. You know, he's like, oh, shit, 9 11. This is a big deal. His ratings are way up. He mentions it a couple of times, like his triple the amount of audience that he normally does. Yeah. Yeah. This, this is a very early example of the tragedy is good for business kind of a situation here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Even if it's fucking 9 11. Yeah. Jesus. Yeah. It's cynical, man. Yeah. It's really bleak to look into this, this image of whoa. Yeah. It doesn't get better either. I'll say that. I believe you had to. It is, it is always interesting to me whenever he's

adding like this modern day Babylon where like he's saying we have it coming too. You know, he's saying at the same time that the government did it to us and we're innocent. And at the same time, if we hadn't created such a shitty society, then the government wouldn't have done it to us. You understand that that sort of push and pull exists in the present day too. Like God maybe should destroy us. Yeah. Well, maybe we deserve the devil to take over because we have abortions. Well, that is true. We do have abortions and the devil should take over that tension. I think animates a lot of the extreme Christian right this, this like notion that we deserve this punishment that's coming. Sure. That the punishment is almost like a holy process. Right. Right.

Right. And the unspoken part of that is everybody else deserves that punishment and not us. Right. We are the devout who will be the remnants that survive this, this holy punishment and then the earth will be ours. Yeah. Hold on to those thoughts because this may play a role later much more explicitly than the feelings you're already getting. So look, Alex had some other stories in addition to stories that he covered about the coming of 9 11. Sure. I also just realized I should probably stop saying look. Look, I say that after like before every clip. You do point at me as well. Yeah. There is an aggression. I'm getting a little self-conscious about that out of nowhere. But Alex has some other stories that he was covering that he feels

are possibly prophetic. Every day I read news stories where they were telling you that we were going to be hit by terrorists, that it was going to happen anytime. Give up your rights. They've been telling us we're going to get hit by anthrax. We're going to get hit by smallpox. The AP reported on a secret meeting with a joint piece of staff, the heads of the media with fake newscast they produced back in June where they predicted 1 to 4 million dead from anthrax. Martial law was the term used. I'm not saying this is going to happen, but they've been preparing for it and they have been saying it's going to happen. It's a little interesting to note that Alex was in a decent ballpark here in terms of talking about smallpox and anthrax.

I don't necessarily give him credit for predicting anything, but it was a topic that would become much more relevant in the days after 9-11. It's not surprising though. After a giant terrorist attack you would be concerned about another attack happening and a biological agent would be a really devastating second hit. So if you're the government you'd want to be safe about that. Thus after 9-11 there was heightened discussion about these agents since they are pretty common, accessible and dangerous ones that you'd be worried about terrorists getting a hold of and using. As for why Alex was talking a bunch about these things before 9-11, I have a few theories. The first is that in 1998 the military made anthrax vaccination mandatory which came to a

head in 2000 with a very high profile case of Major Sonny Bates who refused to take the vaccine and was ultimately discharged from the service. After this Bates embarked on a long journey of trying to sue folks about the vaccination mandate and if you consult some of the contemporary material it really reads a lot like the talking points about the COVID vaccines today. For instance here's a bit from the Washington Post article about Sonny's lawsuit against the FDA from May 2001. Quote, the suit seeks a court order that would require the FDA to treat the vaccine as an experimental drug. Such a ruling would mean the military could no longer administer it without informed consent. To be clear enlisted persons still have the right to inform consent. There just

might also be policies in place where refusal to accept something will violate the terms of their employment. They're not killed. They don't sneak up on them and inject them with the smallpox vaccination from behind. It's not like you get dosed. It's not even like oh you're going to spend the next 20 years in the brig. It's just like oh I mean yeah we get it and if that's what you want to do that's dumb but I mean you're just fired. Right. Go get a job. That's fine. Why would we not want all of our soldiers to be immune to a possible weapon? Ah no because what if the end? So this is going on and like you hear that same thing like the emergency experimental drug kind of language is mirrored and echoed entirely 20 years later. This is essentially

right in Alex's wheelhouse this story. So I would guess that the odds are very good that he was following this entire situation and creating exaggerated narratives out of it which would make Anthrax a really hot topic on his show and the Anthrax vaccine now they want to force it on you and honestly maybe it wouldn't have been relevant to most people until after 9-11 which gives the appearance of Alex talking about this a whole lot. Right. You can repackage that. Because he was in a niche area of focus for instance the military and vaccinations he will have that kind of information that other people just wouldn't be aware of at the time. Yeah and so for the meeting of the media and the joint chiefs this took a little while to sort out

what I think is going on but I'm pretty confident about this and that is on June 22nd and 23rd 2001 Johns Hopkins held a tabletop exercise where they simulated a biological terrorist attack that used smallpox as the agent in the fictional scenario. This fits a lot of the details that Alex was talking about and some of the participants in the exercise included members of the press like Judith Miller from the New York Times and Mary Walsh from CBS News. It also included people who had policy experience taking on the roles of people in important government positions. For instance David Gergen played the national security advisor in the scenario although he was not the national security advisor and General John Tellele stood in as the chairman of the

joint chiefs in the scenario. An unfortunately high percentage of Alex's narratives about reality come from selectively misrepresenting things that people do in scenario exercises so I'm gonna bet that this is where he's pulling that stuff from. Yeah that's that's lock steppy enough for me totally yeah and other examples yeah I mean yeah an untold. My point is that at first glance it feels almost impressive that Alex is bringing up how he's been talking about smallpox and anthrax prior to 9-11 knowing what we know that these will become hot topics of conversation in the coming days sure but it's not really when you take a moment to ask yourself if there's a reason why he would be talking about these subjects at the time. Almost always you'll end up

disappointing yourself when you realize that he's basically been doing the same weak bullshit for over 20 years. Yeah. This is really kind of deflating. Yeah man it is it is like it is like just seeing you know and it's just a giant mass shooting to him it's just a bigger mass shooting with property damage it like he doesn't have any emotion towards this. It feels very emotionless and that's weird to hear from me someone who is a little bit robot. Oh you calm down you've got a deep inner turmoil. I can't calm down because I'm not agitated. You don't have feelings I understand. So I'm gonna give a tiny warning before this next clip because there's some discussion of you know some of the bodies and and the carnage. And he does that so graphically I see. He doesn't

really he's getting the report from Jim his buddy who was there. Yeah and there's only one reason that I really want to play this clip and it's to give one example this happens a couple times throughout the show. Alex seems to have a bizarre preoccupation with details about the people who jumped. Oh okay and I find that super distasteful right because he seems to really want to glom onto that detail as like well I mean obviously it's an evocative image and it's terrifying. And it's straight out of a movie. Yeah yeah and so here here is that skip ahead if you don't want to hear sort of recounting of details. Jim tell us where you work what you saw and basically run down for this audience exactly what developed this morning at 8 50 a.m. when the first plane

slapped in slammed into the south world trade center go ahead sir. Sure Alex I'm in the world fire I was at that time in the world finance center directly across the street from the world trade center between the world trade center in the Hudson River. We heard a shock of you know 10 10 till nine or so. I actually saw walls vibrating in some of the neighboring buildings heard a noise it sounded like cherry bombs followed by almost like a dump truck dumping gravel sound. Without one side of our building where I thought the noise came from on the riverside that wasn't it we went back to the front and at that point there are a number of people lined up on the 15th floor watching one world trade center burn. It was burning from about the 100th floor

up while we were watching it you could actually see bodies coming out of the windows some were obviously dead others were flailing as they came down. Were they on fire? Just smoke just smoke just smoke that's that's a little gruesome but getting the details. Yeah anyway so that's not too bad and that's kind of why I and I don't necessarily think that there's anything too like horribly graphic but there is a preoccupation that you can track right and I felt like it was it was worth mentioning and just that's his response to it is is hearing about people falling yeah jumping and he asks are they on fire yeah tell me more gruesome details that's so weird it's like he's he's trying to get a faces of death story told to him you know just

like oh man yeah what else was going on oh was was there a foot flying too like oh it's so gross man it really raises the question of what more information do you gain by finding out if they were on fire or not oh I mean well you get to find out if they were on fire I don't know how it changes the situation like I it's it's very weird the journalistic impulse is strange because it feels kind of exploitative and gross it is yeah yeah and I thought it would be exploitative and gross if I played like the number of instances that that yeah he asks for like talks about people falling gross stuff yeah so um this guy it turns out yeah it's not only alex's friend uh-oh he also went to college interesting I mean alex I wait I I used to be a structural engineer and I've

watched buildings implode it was the most perfect implosion I've ever seen in my life it came straight down in one monolithic piece now you are a structural engineer how could fire in the upper floors you say one plane hit about the hundredth floor the other hitting about the 70th floor how does that cause a building to completely collapse I don't believe it does alex I mean looking at the already building came down it it looked like there was charges up around the 70th but I just gotta believe there was also charges at the base of the building he's just guessing this straight up he is a guy who is only on this show because he's a friend of alex's right and he is not a professional structural engineer well he just took some classes he turned on cnn

as an expert for them so he could go on alex's show I think yeah absolutely right or you just got to do a favor for your breath well yeah they're best friends buddy buddy yeah took a few courses in structural engineering and he's like well they clearly put charges I mean I'm even gonna say like he may have had a degree he said he studied at the master's level which to me that doesn't sound a little suspicious because that means you don't have a master's degree yeah I don't know what that means but I'll give him maybe an undergraduate degree in some kind of engineering and that means he knows some things I'm not I'm not saying he doesn't I'm not necessarily going to take alex's friend who may be studied engineering as like oh well there must have been bobs then

I'm not gonna I'm gonna throw this out at you uh anybody who within the span of under four hours can suddenly decide that they place charges around the bottom of the world trade center without anybody noticing well that is somebody I don't trust well I think you could talk to somebody and they could say it was surreal watching them go down it was like they had bombs sure or something because you know trying to deal with what you have experienced and what you're seeing what's the closest corollary I can think of to try and process the image was a controlled demolition right that makes sense but do that on alex's show while flouting a credential of I'm a structural engineer different idea yeah yeah that's not me in a some dude in a bar going like oh is that that is interesting

that's because I remember I saw one of those on tv it's it's a little irresponsible yeah um so alex is like fuck yeah of course alex is like fuck yeah this is government what you have just told us sir I saw those buildings collapse you were right there I was watching it on the news they wanted massive death so you're saying as a structural engineer you are witnessing this it is collapsing and then both the structures only place charges are so precise is that what you're saying that might appear to be alex so yeah alex has taken this and he is now a professional structural engineer where you're going with this but this is government this is a 98% now man this is one hundo and I despise whenever you get asked a yes or no question and you answer with something

wishy washy well you kind of have that's what it appeared to be what are you talking about you know of course it didn't well but what are you doing I think it's a weird thing on alex's show because you know that no matter what you say yeah he's going to make it equivocal like unequivocal he's gonna say like this is 100% and not only that this guy is one of the most prestigious structural engineers I studied at the master's level I studied at the master's level because I was picked out of college by the greatest structural engineers in the world right and taught secrets of structural engineering that no one has ever heard before I am secretly Frank Lloyd right I am the reincarnated ghost of Frank Lloyd right yeah so alex is just pushing this pretty hard

pushing that he's got an angle and he's going with it naturally do you see how the government could stand again to bring us a police state from this happening alex I'm not even gonna go there I have no opinion on that or I just you know I'll just tell you the facts I see well how would I I'm not going to speculate who did this or anything like that that's way beyond my knowledge base certainly you heard about Hitler burning the Reichstag as a pretext to declare martial law ugly Hitler burning the Reichstag as a pretext to declare martial law yeah uh well I've been predicting this for five years I'm just so glad that you're alive have you had a chance to talk to your wife uh yeah I have alex a jarring turn I'm so glad you're alive said with no gladness in his

voice whatsoever so this is approximately 15 minutes into the show and it's still chaos in New York at this point in the day it's honestly hard to express exactly how distasteful it is to hear alex covering the story this way knowing what people were living through I understand that he pretends that he acts the way he does because it's part of him fighting a larger evil entity that's pulling the strings behind all world events but coming on air at like 1115 on 9 11 and rambling about the Reichstag fire and trying to get your guest who's just a friend of yours who worked in a building near the World Trade Center to agree with you that the government probably did this is a bit disrespectful for quite a while after 9 11 people would respond to any joke about the event

by saying too soon and intelligent people can disagree about what is and is not too soon to joke about a tragedy the aristocrats what alex is doing is too soon yes that is this is boy categorically undeniably too soon there's no soon for this there are jokes that are too soon but this is not this is not a never soon or late this is just don't do this i would i would advise someone not to do this but especially right on the i mean even but that's the thing i you know i was trying to put it in my head like maybe if you do subscribe to this world view this doesn't have the view of a trap no even if it's a false flag this the building still fell people are still dead right feel something knowing what we know now we know what the number of deaths was

right and i will say that alex believes it to be much higher yeah that ends up being and i think a lot of people i myself included i thought there's no way that possibly couldn't have killed tens of thousands of people i i mean you would have have to assume so um and so like for alex to in his head believe this to be um you know much more deadly than it was right all right and still be acting this way yeah is an indication that like okay if you're arguing that his conspiracy worldview doesn't make him see this as a tragedy then that's that's macabre insane yeah dark yeah yeah i don't even know what to think about what that kind of worldview would do to your ability to empathize i really don't and then imagine if you have that worldview and you assume that there were tens of

thousands of dead and then somebody's like though no the real number is actually much lower it's it's just a i bet he felt disappointed i wouldn't want i wouldn't want to speculate i'm telling you that's that's so dark i mean i think the only way you can go about all the only way you can go about it i guess is to just be like fuck it's awful that these people died but i have to transmute that into anger at the globalists because they did this you know that's the only way you can do it and i don't even really feel that no i feel i feel don't feel like there is an increased anger that is being sublimated from no the pain or anything it's agitation it's excitement it's he's he's buzzing a little a little bit there's there's a little bit of um i got a lot of eyes on me

sure the audience is higher yeah i told you so i've been vindicated loves a good i told you so it's yeah it it doesn't it doesn't feel right no it feels very fucked up so this doesn't feel right either looking at the the amount of time between the time the planes hit and the time that these buildings were imploded however that was brought about uh in in one hand it was almost like they were giving people time what people could be evacuated civilians to be evacuated but it was it seemed like it was about 45 minutes which also feels almost like they were giving them time to evacuate again uh degreed uh in the structural engineer uh area you're saying area most beautiful implosion you've ever seen and of some of the biggest buildings in the world absolutely what

is that voice the tone is just what bizarre the fuck and then also you notice he's like trying to build up those credentials totally trying to really stress the uh the credentials because now this has gone from a firsthand account from a friend of his into a source this is now something he's going to try and rely on as like the day of structural engineers said that they were bombs in the building you know like and it's no they didn't it's your friend talking shit yep saying things were a little bit loose oh totally and um you know i think i think that that part of the mythology is something that you hear totally echoed in his show in later years yeah and it is it is such a like don't or well all of his friends kind of know this like drop something that makes

you a little bit more than just a regular lay person in there and alex will immediately run with it beyond reason you know you'd hope that your friend like if you're your friend his friend you'd know that yeah maybe you'd hope that you'd be a little careful you would think but apparently you don't maybe subconsciously they want to make him happy maybe yeah so we have some early misreporting here all right ladies and gentlemen the two aircraft slam into both the world trade center towers they have collapsed a lot of deaths there on the ground we should be praying for everyone we have another plane smashing into the pentagon part of the structure has caved in is being reported another one slammed into the Pittsburgh PA airport right outside town

their international airport sorry what this just in us canada Mexico borders have been sealed that is martial law ladies and gentlemen you can see here some preliminary reports that alex is airing that are not correct and in some ways this is stuff that's expected and you can give him some leeway on on some of this however the tone he's using is completely different than at the beginning of the show where he said that there are reports of bombs in schools but that may not be true now things have a much more factual delivery from alex but what he's saying is the same unreliable fog of immediacy stuff the plane in pennsylvania didn't hit the airport and i don't know if that was something that was even widely reported an error but i could see some kind of

miscommunication happening here so i'm not going to be a huge dick about it sure the other piece of information is a bigger problem the us canada and us mexico borders were not closed in response to 911 security was tightened as one would expect but the fact that alex is reporting that the borders are just sealed is definitely not correct this again would be something i wouldn't be a huge dick about because i think that it also seems like the kind of information you could hear and it makes sense on a day like that it's also understandable as an error some sort of a miscommunication they could say they're clamping down on security and you should misinterpret it or whatever right but then alex says that next sentence that's martial law ladies and gentlemen sealing the

borders is not martial law you may think that a state that's in martial law would seal their borders but it's not a defining characteristic of martial law at all why would you seal your borders that doesn't make sense i mean not let anyone in or out well sure but that doesn't make sense in the long term no martial law is something that needs to be invoked and it involves the military taking over governing and law enforcement operations which traditionally are held by civilians for instance in 1954 russia county in alabama had been consumed by organized crime to the point where government corruption had made the existing political and law enforcement apparatus essentially a rogue entity culminating with the deputy sheriff assassinating a candidate for district attorney

who is seen as a threat to the racket so the governor declared a limited martial law where the national guard came in took control and cleaned things up there are obviously more messy incarnations of martial law but the principle is the same martial law requires that the civilian authorities are temporarily replaced by military authorities and sealing the border does not qualify as that at all this is a big deal because i really don't think alex understands the concept of martial law at all i think he just uses it as a scary buzzword to evoke negative feelings and the listeners but it often doesn't seem relevant to the things he's discussing at all martial law is supposed to be his big thing like his main topic of expertise and i don't think he

even understands it on a on a basic level i mean i really i he wants to just say like totalitarianism you know no but he can't quite say it has to be martial law i can't because no he just wants to say he's scary cop i mean yeah but it's like he still expects you know he thinks that biden could be president during martial law you know like he you know like all of those things don't match up with how martial law works biden could point himself general well he's the head of the armed services right so right right and i understand i understand the technicalities there but i mean you know what i mean here he just means that there's complete and total control over what you can and cannot do not that the military is going to run things slightly differently no i think i agree i agree but i

think more uh specifically i think it's just a catchall word for like when cops are doing things that make me uncomfortable well yeah that like they wear black masks this is martial law yeah they yell at you this is martial law martial law they don't give you their names and bad like these are things that cops do that are inappropriate maybe right right right but it's not martial law not quite no in fact you can you could argue that some things could be in hindsight should it ever get to that point steps towards martial law true could argue that right but you don't know at this point necessarily if that's the the the ultimate conclusion anyway i don't think he understands the word at all i agree so jim has another little piece of information that i find fascinating

right now i can tell you a third building that's across the street from the old powers it's also in the world trade complex uh is on fire i can for about a 50 60 story building i can see fire through the windows on about well about halfway up the building around the 30th floor uh the whole side of the building smoking on the side so we now have a 50 to 60 story building on fire as well do you know the name of that building uh i it's one of the world trade center buildings it's probably like five or world trade center five or world trade center six something like that it's building seven in the world trade center complex there were a bunch of buildings but it's important to understand their relative sizes one and two were the twin towers which are much taller than the others

building three is the marriott hotel and it was 22 stories tall buildings five and six were nine stories tall each building seven is the one that jim is talking about for sure given that it was 47 stories tall and jim mentioned that he's on a boat on the hudson and i did a bit of figuring out his vantage point and he had to have been sure i spent a little bit more time trying to geolocate where he would have been sure and i don't think that any of the other buildings would have been visible to him other than building seven based on where his view would have been the other ones would have been obscured by everything building seven would fall beginning at approximately five 20 p.m so that's at least five hours after this call the conspiracies that alex would be

pushing later characterize the fire in building seven is insignificant but here on alex's own show he has an eyewitness and friend of his reporting that the whole side of the building is smoking alex probably doesn't remember this part of that conversation and it doesn't match his later later information base oh man yeah despoiled by your own friend terrible yeah it kind of makes building seven seem less like the smoking gun that well i mean it seems it seems more like the smoking gun in the opposite direction it's a smoking building yeah wow uh this is not a time for puns anyway alex has another guest on sure boy i'll tell you what heavy hitters dairy thank you for holding sir um you've been covering this stuff for years you know i've been

on your show predicting this warning people i put out press releases on it this was going to happen me me me me what is your take on all of this mr brownfield but you know uh alex believe it or not it did not shock me very much when all this happened today cool what is wrong with these people i don't know so dairy brownfield is a 70 year old radio guy from missouri who hosted a show that's described as quote agricultural news i think it's less a show like breaking news about growing corn and more like news that's tailored towards the agricultural community except i'm not sure if that's the case he started something called the brownfield network which still exists it's like a news distribution service okay agricultural news sure if you go to their website it's all about

farm okay the top headline when i was preparing this episode is quote rain comes at optimal time for illinois farmer that's farmer singular this is an article about a guy named stan borne who was thrilled that it rained because it helped his bean crop this is the top headline on terry brownfield's website i i mean yeah so of course he's not surprised that 911 happened you know well he has since passed so someone else is maintaining the brownfield sure sure but this is like indicative maybe of the news he was putting out that is that rain helped my being such a fucking twist i was really expecting it to go the opposite direction i was expecting the agricultural news to be some sort of like smoke screen you know like americans for profits prosperity you're not really

for pros you know like that kind of some of it probably was right wing weirdo conspiracy stuff but i think a fair amount of it might have been like weevils are actually robots from the government maybe yeah that would be fun anyway this old man doing farm news out of missouri is apparently someone alex had to get on to get his take about my life and apparently he does not give a shit he gives a shit but he's like i'm not surprised but i mean yes this is an issue well but here's the thing there's big news that dairy has to bring uh it's jerry but with like a deal well okay it's not like milk okay i mean i wasn't gonna say it so dairy's got some big news that he has to bring to alex's attention alex of course already knows about this my original plan today was to uh talk

with uh charlotte islebert and um i called her she was on the individuals that didn't know a thing about this until i contacted her and i said well we need to change our programming and she just called back a moment ago and she said that her husband has a friend that a belgian a belgian businessman and he said that all of europe is full of the news that two men with belgian passport entered into afghanistan and killed ben lott two days ago he says this is all over europe but not here in the united states have you heard anything about that yes yes so this is about amad Shah masood who was an afghani who was an opponent of the taliban masood was assassinated on september 9th 2001 by men who had fake belgian passports all of the details are lost on folks like dary and alex

who just want to fudge details in order to prop up their predetermined conclusion that everything is a conspiracy that only they can see through right and there's no correcting of this there is no like it comes up again later and it is two belgians uh why not went into afghanistan killed ben lott and gotta do it europe's talking about it but it's censored in the american news or whatever it's like you guys just have this wrong shouldn't you have a real good sense of something uh when alex responds to you with yes i guess shouldn't that be a big red flag to you i think if you're like oh this might be a red flag yeah red flag of like i don't of course i think i shouldn't be confident about what i'm hearing yeah i think this is dicing i my instinct is to say yes but i know that this is

stupid so i'm gonna go with the yes yeah so dary um has a bottom line what is your bottom line analysis what's your gut level feeling on all of this who do you think's behind it well you know as far as i can't name names and give telephone numbers but as i mentioned earlier in this show and i have said it thousands of times on the air i read the back of the book and i'm referring here to the holy scriptures i tried to get the hell in the on earlier this morning to see what he thought about it and i couldn't reach him but uh we know that we're going to have a one world order a new world government we know it's coming we know the antichrist is in the wings standing by oh yes you who he is i don't know he is standing by but he certainly does have the power to clean all this

mess up and make it wonderful so currently the antichrist is standing by standing by Jesus like proud boys that guy has got to be well could be could be a woman as well i have to say that i guess for dairy he i mean he died at like almost 80 yeah the new world order did not come into being the devil didn't come back nope you know you may be probably passed pretty like like oh well i didn't have to live through that probably as a relief eh i think i'd be disappointed i'd be furious if i had spent my entire life predicting the antichrist was coming and then i just died like it was fine it would feel anti-climatic it would be i mean like my last words would have been like what and then i'm dead or your last words should be like i guess i'm the antichrist then like you gotta

i would go maybe an action movie antichrist this no not gonna work so um yeah we've got alex's buddy we got dairy and alex has another guest let's go to ted anderson owner of genesis communications and of might as resources let's hear take on this gold's gonna be more expensive i am very upset about all of this my testosterone level is flowing just like yours are out there uh ted anderson god bless you sir for for providing this network and a place for people to get accurate information what's happening financially well obviously there's a lot of crazy mixed up emotions going on in all the markets right now uh with the world trade center that is where gold and silver trades in the united states it's the largest market for

gold and silver good boy i was trying to be ghoulish uh with my exaggeration but in fact i was way wrong mm-hmm i was not ghoulish enough nope no pretty cynical nope nope i this is i is crass every time i think there's no bottom yeah i'm convinced there's no bottom and it just keeps going just keeps going hit those floors more there's a trap first flaw men's shoes yeah try this on for size on this one for ghoulish oh no on a ghoulish shoe let's do it it's very amazing to me to watch this happen i've never experienced this in the 23 years now that i've been in the business where the markets have actually been shut down like this and won't open up until further notice and the borders are now sealed troops federal troops are taking

control of downtown cities under security arrangements well obviously alex of a major concern right now is for the people that are sitting there in the paper wondering what's going to happen wait wait hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on and hopefully the market stays stable and they can get out with reasonable cost yeah i'm told that there are already giant lines forming at the banks well there's a bit of a stampede going on here at mitis resources and if you've been calling in on the 800 number please be patient we've got a lot of people working them um but you will uh you will be taken care of there's a lot of people that are looking to have gold right now with the markets shut down obviously in the united states it's

going to be much tougher to buy the stuff um you know not every uh not every uh not every option is open to you anymore so if you are calling in do that uh just be patient wow yeah so that line that you responded to also hit me like a semi truck yeah the obviously we should be concerned and i thought he was going to say about obviously there's no way that you could say those words on 9 11 and not finish it with listen you're already a gross monster because that's third on your list we should be really concerned about the people who are stuck invested in paper money yeah what the fuck yeah what is wrong that's the number one thing that we should be concerned about is some people are just too liquid right now unbelievable i i just

saw the i mean woof one tower goes down and you think a lot of people are going to be stuck in paper money yeah that's what i thought that's what i thought too i mean it's eye opening it makes you realize how many people are in uh in paper jesus jesus christ grim that's grim there's just not enough lightning there's just not enough lightning i'm furious that people believe in god because i think if we all just believed in zeus only then maybe we could get one person struck by a lightning bolt whenever they pull shit like this it's amazing words fail i really does because this is like you know i mean i don't know without mincing words 911 is what made alex's career yeah and you go and listen to this show on the day of

he does not seem that concerned about gathering accurate information about what's happened he's all over the place he doesn't seem like he's emotionally all that affected by what's happening and the guests that he has are weirdo farm guy friend who he has turned into the biggest structural engineer in the world uh and his gold guy yeah this is not great yeah these are these are three certifiably insane people i i i mean well four of them obviously but one of them is you know well beyond that point he's tenured in insanity these three people saying those things astonishing astonishing i think that jim you could make some argument for being less complicit because there were opportunities that alex gave him to double down on some of his stuff sure and he was ambivalent

sure true but like you mentioned i do believe if you know alex you probably would know his tendencies and you know that you're essentially doubling down by not pushing back oh yeah oh yeah um wow so alex has some advice and it's good advice get out of paper money gas up your trucks i would tell everybody make sure you've got your cars full of gas make sure you've got plenty of food those water filters if the martial law stuff starts cranking up i'm gonna go over to my parents house grab my dad around the scrub the neck and say you're leaving the country and you're taking my little sister out of here now who's 16 years younger than me and who's in high school you're getting out of here and you're leaving now you're going to costa rica now and i'm gonna stay here and i'm gonna fight

for this country for the united states against arab terris or anybody else jerry brownfield will you stay with us you bet i will all right you bet i will this is a great day for me dairy has nothing else to do oh i'm having a fantastic time i already watered these wow dad hey dad costa rica this is dad i've gassed up the truck drive to costa rica it's always amazing to me how these people handle emergencies because they have no concept of scale and reaction you know like you know covid there's only going to be lone survivors and then two weeks later they're like well i'm not dead yet so this isn't even real right like they just at the twin towers has gone down we need to run get out of this country you got to get gas you

got to get frozen water you got to go go get out of here you mean ice yeah i do mean ice but simultaneously also it seems kind of bored by it already yep totally they're like yeah you know well what are we doing tomorrow we getting we getting Thai food sure yeah so alex is just pumped though about but it's like just about fighting this is i just had a weird feeling info wars dot com for all the updates and all the news pilots got 50 articles posted the newest analysis and everything's shutting down the borders you name it marshal law is here and we're not gonna let him get away with it we'll be back in 60 seconds wolf that's gross wow he doesn't like it's indicative of the tone there just isn't any concern or acknowledgement of pain acknowledgement

of loss acknowledgement that people who are listening are probably going through some shit yeah acknowledgement that some people are scared confused you know people in new york you don't know you haven't gotten a phone call from them you don't know where they were that day what their subway was filled with dust and shit you don't know if they've got but yeah it's just disrespectful honestly i don't know other there's a lot of other words but that's one that just keeps coming back up there's a lack of respect for the reality and the like the notion that we're all experiencing something together you know yeah maybe it's maybe i'm too collectivist maybe i'm a soft i liberal in that way but i just find it i find it a poor it for weeks there was

no news organizations who would begin to speak this callously about for years true no mainstream news organization would ever dare make a joke about 9 11 and this dude fucking 20 minutes in between towers falling is like this is a great fucking day for a hey i'm right about everything we got marshal law going on everything is happening we're fighting the globalist holy shit you come on back it's going to be a great day we're going to go to station identification pretty pretty fucked up yeah that's crazy so i know that you know in 2008 2009 when we've been listening to some of those episodes about half of the police are waking up and sure so that's good and you know people in the army are waking up a little bit higher numbers there right right

i know from like 2012 2013 about half of the military and or you know the the police are woken up sure that's great sure and then in 2003 when we've been listening to some of those episodes we have some great news and that is that about half of the police are woken up that's great and we have some news here in 2001 oh yeah don't let them give you a police state out of it we have the power the american people to all police agencies the military i know that 75 percent of military is awake to what's happening about half the cops are we need to pray for the people that have died our house go out to their families and i would just pray here on the air lord heal our land don't do that they don't we want this land to be healed we don't want to be part of an evil

system we want our country to be brought back to its former decency and please god we pray that no biological attacks are engaged in as the government has been predicting what happened in in in fox and abc in the last month that i've read where they talk about one to four million dead and god doesn't need citations from fox news uh that's not uh that's weird wow alex alex so when you pray to me i'm just gonna toss this out here now i wrote it down a long time ago so you should really know this by now but uh don't also be broadcasting your opinions about bullshit to other people well i do it's supposed to be a very specific relationship between you and me i'm god you're you we do it that way okay i believe that in luke uh i don't remember the exact verse but there

is something about like when you pray unto me sure provide sources right right right i think it was peter in the letter to the thessalonians said uh you should start a pirate radio station and really start getting into it with people you know what i'm saying slight correction i believe it was uh uh paul who wrote to thessalonians it's not fine fine apologies um yeah i thought that just tasteful gross yeah that's really fucked up so dairy as some interesting thoughts yeah i was one of the people back uh year and a half ago whenever y2k was you know at the turn of the turn of the i'm sorry what that believed that this was going to be and i honestly thought in that deep in my heart that um we were going to see something of this nature happen at the turn of the century on

maybe even on new year's eve but that was uh just a pretext for them to put in their femabunkers right man centers that's absolutely right like the arkansas dbt is out to put in the military control grid why didn't they go ahead and do it that night because the world was ready for it also vladimir putin had just taken power yeltsin had disappeared a lot of power jockeying was going on but i still believe that this is the plan that they had for y2k wow all right all right okay so here's here's what i gathered from that one whenever y2k was is not an acceptable thing to say it's in the name and then it was a it was kind of a long stretch for people like them wow that's fair that is okay with something they experienced for like that was a part of a year

yeah yeah that's true so but then the second part is just so this it could have been 2010 could have been 2020 sure could have been 2100 you have decided that whatever happens after you've decided that y2k is the plan that's part of the plan well i don't think that i mean look i'm gonna be perfectly honest with you sure i haven't listened to the entirety of dairy brownfield's catalog i think we're gonna need to new new pockets farm report um that'd be fun no it wouldn't no it would but i don't think that prior to y2k he was like they're gonna blow up the twin towers i really don't so he's just sort of retroactively being like this is what i thought was gonna happen but also you have to understand that on a really just grassroots basic nuts and bolts level sure

this means that this is what the globalists are planning to do yeah they didn't do it right and so now they did it now yes so like it is 100 percent a gigantic conspiracy that somehow got they had to pump the brakes on it for some reason whenever he was jockey there they were a year behind on their plans they couldn't get things up to speed we know we know that their organization is lacking it is kind of uh it's sloppy let's just face it yeah but there's no way there's no way around the conspiracy uh groundwork here it's a it's an assumption that's cooked into every conversation that they're having totally it's silly yes so this sounds very familiar they have the feds taking over central areas of downtown cities and capitals confirmed this is the new world order

and look for them the next few weeks to say we need to turn in our guns so the terrorists don't blow up buildings it'll be something along those lines regardless of who did this only big brother stands to gain so it didn't happen nope also i was thinking about this and he keeps saying that like only big brother stands to gain i kept thinking like you know who else stands to get you yeah that's why he's excited right not from the like obviously i don't think that's a motive for alex doing 9 11 or something but alex stands to gain greatly from behaving the way he is yeah uh as as we're listening to this so like i don't know if i were him i i i would be thinking very little of my audience if i were stressing key bono kind of ideas because

you know you might want to apply that to you know who gains from turning this into a conspiracy people who profit off conspiracy shit once you start doing that though then you're just never going to come back you know who's who's benefiting off of this sandwich that i'm about to eat is it me or is it potbelly i bet it's potbelly i bet potbelly's put evil shit inside my sandwich and they're going to kill me and that's because they don't want the money from me going back wait a second who benefits from me buying the sandwich i do dairy brownfield so alex takes calls yeah and it's interesting to get a little bit of a temperature i can't believe somebody would call i i i i can't believe this so when um oh my god on 9 11 um i was a huge fan of love line

and i listen to it every night adam corolla and dr drew were my guys sure it's unfortunate in hindsight but i loved that show it made me feel very comforted it felt like there are people who are struggling with stuff and you know you're not as alone uh even if adam is making fun of everybody sure and being a little bit mean but in a really funny way it's your friend who bust balls right yeah um and on 9 11 and i think even the day after they just took calls about what people were feeling yeah and you know like just opening up and being like these kinds of fears and anxieties that you might be feeling are normal totally uh and you know we're all in this kind of together and it was really meaningful and alex doesn't do that no it's the opposite it's it's like it

makes it worse yeah alex taking calls makes things worse yeah no i i i i really i i find it so fucked up that alex would take calls on that no that's unacceptable here's the first one oh boy now listen alex i'm not a bible thumper oh boy at all okay but just listen to me for a second please because everyone listening can take their bibles and look at this oh god revelation 17 describes exactly what's taking place right now at this very moment what happened in new york now if you take the airlines will read it to us oh my god it's too long it's it's huge i mean it's it's lots of words yeah yeah that is too long all right can't read it what's happening is exactly what's in there if you take the airlines out of it and you take the they didn't know what planes were

revelation 17 and if you take that they didn't know that this continent existed and if you take that they had never heard of uh i don't know the world i you know any number of things you're going in interesting direction and that's not where he was going with if you take the airline oh okay he'll get into this here in a second okay um it turns out it's actually numerology oh no yeah okay now just here are the flight numbers flight 11 flight 77 flight 175 and flight 33 now numbers is a language just like our language yeah 33 the occultist at bohemian grove and all of this are obsessed with it okay you take these numbers and you add them together and you get a total of 296 now you take 2 plus 9 is 11 plus 6 is 17 and in revelation 17 it describes what's

taking place now i have no idea if it's coincidence or whatever but still the numbers are there the language is there so this is stupid but it's also not correct the flight he's saying is 33 is actually united 93 which ruins alex's whole occult number riff and it basically screws up his own weird cryptic math that he is trying to pull off here either way this is a great use of time on the day the world changed this is this is bad like alex should have cut him off when he started doing math absolutely this is not like this isn't something that you should humor but he lets him go on for a while and i mean i would you how are you not just like sir sir sir sir stop it stop this right now sir i understand you're trying to make connections and make things make sense

but you can't because that's what your whole thing is listen it's just that this is a different more unhinged or more detached from reality more obviously detached how about how about i'm gonna throw this out at you sir if god speaks in order of operations uh the addition and subtraction then uh go fuck yourself i don't even want that god so if you are right i'd rather worship the devil than a god who's like two plus four is six and six minus three is three and that's where the devil comes from and god sayeth unto me please excuse my dear aunt sally and god said x parentheses one plus and you moron yep i find this very depressing yeah yep partially because he's got the flight number wrong yeah that really fucks with his whole revelation but it also

fucks with alex's thing because the thing that he attached or he took from it was the 33 right that's incorrect well okay so we and even if it is revelation 17 doesn't describe what's going on right right right also 17 what do we do in here q 17th number q and on boom wow you're right also at one point at one point dairy is talking about a small town in Missouri named sandy hook oh no yeah it's just a short mention it doesn't mean anything sure sure sure he's like you know new york's a bigger town than like sandy hook Missouri uh i'm i'm sorry dan on this show if there are things that are even slightly perhaps not tangentially related we're gonna have to make a conspiracy out of that fine i'll find the clip and play it on the next episode

of dairy saying thank you thank you very much all right which is because whenever y2k happened or whatever all right we knew that's all i got so alex takes another call and this is bad those buildings went straight down john what do you see happening they're really gearing up oh yeah uh life has changed i uh i don't think we can accept what we've expected i don't think that there's anything new uh to make of all of this uh it's uh it's the world turned upside down so what are you gonna do uh i'm gonna clean my weapon man i'm gonna clean my weapon don't you do that anyways my only worry is that i don't want to go alone i'm not afraid to go but i just don't want to go by myself oh my god uh these people uh these government agents they are they

ought to be ostracized first they ought to be identified and then they ought to pick this and post this ought to be publicly displayed they ought to be ostracized in the church well and everywhere else john i appreciate your call we don't know if the government did this we know they did the other ones we know they kept telling us it was going to happen and we know who stands to gain i know this though ladies and gentlemen i'm not going to any famous center what about you it's legitimately nuts to listen to this because it seems like alex is in many ways on autopilot this whole song and dance here is so cookie cutter that it almost doesn't seem like you'd need to be awake to do it he already said that he believes 98 chance the government did this and

then later said the government did do this but this caller is saying things that get into violence so alex decides to hedge a little bit by saying we don't know who did this but we also kind of know who did this wink wink and also i'm not gonna let them take me alive yeah it's really the same couching type of presentation he does all the time and it's really weird to see it being deployed when talking about the biggest event of his life which happened a few hours earlier yeah it seems weird to say this but i don't get a strong sense that alex cares that much that 9-11 happened i don't think he gives a shit at all it's weird it is one of the weirder things that i i of all the things that i was expecting alex's 9-11 episode to be apathetic was not one of them

i think it's more cynical than apathetic sure that's one way there's definitely a line of apathy that goes a deep vein a streak of it yeah like a peppy lepew's white streak yeah so look he believes that it's the government he's already said that it was the government it was 98 chance then 100 but we don't know that for sure we just know that everything that would point to the government means the government did it well there's another suspect uh oh and you know there's one person that might be able to pull this off but everything he does is tapped me and that is Saddam Hussein why this government ever put him in power in the 70s why he was our big buddy to fight Iran why he was given the chemical and biological weapons from houston if Saddam did do this and

there is a chance that this is not the government that it is Saddam Hussein i want that country nuked and i want to say what and the question is why didn't they take Saddam out in 1991 i asked you that question fair enough um so i guess he's into blaming Iraq sooner than george w bush that's that was fast that was fast and it seems really not like what alex likes to present himself that he would be like i want them nuked immediately i mean i don't want you to be emperor of anywhere if that's your response why would that work out well at all like shouldn't you recognize the amount of civilian death that would cause the pointlessness of of of that response like that's fucked up no people don't understand but Alex is supposed to you know i he's a peace guy i think

we need to go back to everybody being really really terrified of nuclear weapons like we need to show kids the the bombs in schools like they did it's unfortunate cover i know it doesn't help but it should be instilled into children to be way more afraid of nuclear weapons than we apparently are it's it's unfortunate that a lot of that stuff was so silly that it becomes mockable sure that you know you might have a tendency to take lightly the uh the effects yeah no with the modern weaponry no when i was researching uh for for my book how to make a nuke no no when i was researching it i found out that most of the misalier corpse not most but like a massive chunk of them are always high and the people who and all the computers are from the 1980s

like it is terrifying if you look into what it's crazy it's crazy people are still using punch cards to control nuclear weapons in 2022 it's bananas i mean do it that means it's less hackable yeah and they're doing ecstasy so it's pretty cool hell yeah hell yeah you gotta get you gotta totally have you ever gone down into there though silos are terrifying if you're not on absolutely you got it so alex takes another call and this guy this is a little bit of a longer clip but i wanted to play it in uh sort of full um this guy disagrees with alex about some of the premises uh that he's coming forth with and this flusters alex to a point that he ends up making a totally bizarre claim at the end of this go ahead bill well i don't see you first of all i don't

think there's a government sponsored that's my opinion okay secondly uh you know i don't see how an act like this is going to help with illegal immigration and the movement supports that if anything if anything i think it's going to make people refocus on why illegal immigration is so bad well that's the point i've made they tell us to give up our rights and drive through checkpoints heartland but then they've got the borders wide open and porous and then have been advertising how open we are to terrorist attack that in and of itself is a grand crime no question and i think that people will get refocused on that and i think they're gonna have a really tough time modifying the law i really don't see marshal all being declared i sure it's already

civil emergency and and and i've got dozens of the states but but alex this is a normal response to a major issue i mean so you are you in the military i used to be okay i'm a retired officer well we support the military most of troops i know we have here we don't know who's done this but are you telling me how someone been locked in could coordinate uh all of these uh these uh these four attacks well i'm telling you that there are lots of people who are mercenary for hire that have been caught in covert activities for many countries a mercenary is going to fly a plane into a building no you didn't let me finish what i was saying i believe that there are enough

anticles by organizations throughout the world and have enough finances and connections to pull off something like this i will say this is a good chance europe could be behind this they're rolling what euro right now the euro the full currency in two and a half months yeah the euro is what cost nine eleven so now alex has decided that it's like he's so thrown by this guy like he can't impugn him by being like oh you're not even in the military yeah exactly these kinds of standard attempts to like make him not appear to know anything right uh fail and so i guess you know what maybe it's the fucking e you're rolling out the euro so they attack our symbol of the economy what do you get oh it's it all makes sense it is it is a little bit like if a blindfolded kid

kept trying to hit a pinata and eventually the pinata he just couldn't break it and so then they just hugged so like that's what happened there he was like well i guess i guess i just believe europe killed everybody then uh-huh that's fine hey you don't agree with the crazy stuff i'm saying so i'm gonna say something crazier how about that how do you like that what do you got how do you do it yeah huh so weird do you want to nuke europe now i love i love the response to i don't think martial law is gonna be it's already happened i love that for any any question like that and i really don't think that they're gonna ban cigarettes and they already banned them like okay all right bad okay yeah and there's also two things that have already come up that are interesting counter

arguments to the ideas that alex is expressing the first is when jim was on and he was talking about how there was a long delay between the crash and the plant or the building's falling right and it was almost like they were giving time for civilians to evacuate sure and jim does bring up the point that like it's almost as if there would have been time for emergency uh first responders to be there and they were the main target yeah of the attack which would lead one to believe that that is a nefarious uh plan of a terrorist organization wanting to take out firefighters and police right uh infrastructure people as opposed to uh just civilian death um that is unexamined by alex how that would be a motive not of the globalist part of terrorists right

second this caller is bringing up the idea that immigration would become a much larger issue in the wake of a foreign terrorist attack and it sure did and that would not be in the interest of the globalists as alex has presented them because they want all the immigrants to come in i want the borders wide open exactly and so this doesn't fit from a motive standpoint and this also isn't fully examined right on this but they are lingering hanging questions that just are ignored right and and let me throw this one out there at you osama has already attacked the world trade center alex doesn't believe that and not just that he is incredibly rich true he has connections all over the world he has infiltrated most terrorist organizations and if not the team yeah

yeah and when the when that guy was saying that like there are groups of mercenary tendrils and stuff sure i think that what happened in alex's mind is like what are organizations that i hate the e you there are a bunch of probably higher mercs that sounds kind of like what he's saying yeah you did it so alex ends up going down this road quite a bit all right let's see what happens it's just a travesty and you're up maybe behind this there is a fisher there is an internal struggle between the new world order right now germany runs the e u and they swore the annihilation of the us they put people into power to take over this country what and uh it's in between muslim terrorists being provocateur and allowed to do this it's

in between our government doing it and it's in between the e u doing it frankly i'm starting to lean towards the e u and that power block that runs a lot of our news here wow that was so fast yeah 98 sure the government did it the government did it now i'm leaning towards you you can't just sit i had a look dude i had a weird phone call and now i think you did now i'm gonna i'm gonna be honest with you it's about 98 percent sure europe did it yeah that's amazing who's europe did germany install presidents germany what happened here germany swore the deaths of the united states everybody knows this in world war two no no no it was a few years ago okay a few years back sure yeah what i have no idea i don't know this is whip i that i could not have been less prepared for

see this is why you go back to the past yeah no you find things you never really expect i got t boned by europe that's what's going on here jesus so one of the things i think is really fun about this broadcast is that alex is like juggling guests sure like jim was on earlier he comes back oh he was on earlier he comes back okay and so jim's back now and alex is upgrading this banter about the e u and look at listen carefully to the way he expresses this did you ever think you'd see this in the united states no i really didn't you know we we've been kind of always you know conditioned to believe this is the one place we haven't had any overt at least foreign terrorism and i'm presuming this is foreign who knows maybe it maybe it's internal maybe not but uh

yeah we you know we feel pretty uh inflated against that you're getting the analysis that it may be the e u uh they're rolling out analysis it's already who's analysis they're distributing to africa middle east uh we're getting an and then suddenly our financial center is brought down we've been in two wars with europe uh buddy this is sad we're getting analysis by which have been ten minutes ago i tossed out the idea of e u randomly ten minutes ago i talked some shit now we're getting analysis we've got we've got several think tanks you heard me talk shit and then they were like wait a second and they looked into it the heritage foundation has just called my cell phone it told me that the e u did this analysis we were getting an elect

there's more analysis on the ground being done right now outrageous we've sent somebody from enforced a belgium to see if that story is true brussels suspiciously silent brussels has yet to respond to our did you do 9 11 no comment from leo zegami as of yet well that's because he's in hiding who so dairy is not in hiding he goes back gotcha the united airlines confirms that flight 175 from boston to la has crashed with 56 passengers and nine crew members abroad emergency personnel at the scene say there are no survivors why are these airplanes crashing do you have any idea alec now is this a plane other than the four that went into the trade center into well i don't know into penceburg and into uh into the pentagon i don't have any

idea well we know they've got fighter jets scrambled everywhere so they could have shot the thing down you suppose yeah we'll probably never know that's something they're not going to ever announce these guys have nothing to say and this is not good radio you have a guy who's running late to do the wheat report giving alex updates on stuff that neither of them have any context for so i you know instead of sorting the information out alex just dismisses it all the way by saying it's probably a conspiracy and we'll never get the truth about this it's legitimately pathetic and almost self parity yeah united 175 was the plane that hit the south tower or world trade center two i believe the dairy is getting some intel wrong and he's actually talking about united 93

that crashed but the number of passengers that he cites actually matches 175 so i don't know what's going on he might have the number wrong or there's something that got missed in translation either way this is a pointless dissemination of half correct information that only serves to kind of bore and annoy alex yeah he seems to be taking this whole national tragedy pretty well yeah all things good he seems like he wants to go home this was the first time i honestly related to anybody on this show whenever he was like i don't know what's going on i was like that is the first legitimate acceptable phone call you know what's wild to have yeah that moment the dairy has where it's like why are these planes crashing it sounds stupid to us now but no i i wouldn't have known

that they were hijacked no absolutely you know like obviously that's an assumption that you could make but like yeah there is a reason for at this time of day for dairy to be like i don't know why they're crashing i don't know what's going on right that is a that is the most human response i can think of right here i don't want to make fun of that too much because i think it is normal but it it also doesn't serve to help a radio show that's supposed to be disseminating information no no no see i am screaming in this scenario i'm screaming i don't know what's going on so i'm going to go to the news for information about what's going on i do not want to go to the news and see me screaming i don't know what's going on and then alex wait okay something's

happening it's a conspiracy you'll never know so alex got that caller yeah he was talking about some numerology i really wish he didn't alex is going to get into a little of the zone yeah if they don't attack somebody at level entire countries will be attacked daily in florida a pair of education speeches the president scrapped his schedule and said at the first reports of attacks on new york came up on the uh... for the board and said that nine uh... stands for judgment and eleven for disorder really and it shows how the globalist everything is thirty three everything is seven eleven all of these are cultic numbers that makes sense but i'm making that doesn't make sense i mean look at all this look at the flight number thirty three and that's not accurate

it's not one of the flight number what's seven eleven uh... seven is heaven and eleven is the number of minutes that you wait now the other what the seven eleven wasn't a flight number no it's nine eleven right seven eleven's a store yeah what does that have to do with this i couldn't get anything to eat at seven eleven they were out of the good stuff it's brutal yeah all they had left was the flamin hot nacho doritos it didn't have the cooler ranch haram i know it's brutal i wanted a donut so um alex has some more bad predictions here yeah we could see nuclear war within the day in fact i had a report last night that we covered no that israel's very upset saying i ran now has

mitten nukes and the missiles deliver them uh... it's just folks this could be the beginnings of armageddon i hate to say that but we certainly have the ingredients don't we dairy well it looks like it doesn't and you've heard me say time and time again once you read the back of the book you begin to see a different picture and you look at the overall picture uh... i definitely say we are in the end time i believe this right as well alec now when we're talking about the fantastic that doesn't mean the end that means the start of the good stuff yes you see what i mean oh boy sure that's not good is there any end of the world for us is good i want we are excited about the idea of the possibility of

nuclear war kicking off tonight and this being armageddon i just want that makes sense for his apocalyptic version of sure sure i can we have one national or world or even local tragedy that is not evidence that we're in the end times just one i just don't want to know that we're in the end times every single time how many end times are we going to be in man so many i've been in so many end times yeah there's a limit yeah so i i had this really interesting thought of a way that i would like to talk to alex sure if i ever were to yeah i i know that he has a lot of evidence that nine eleven happened and he has a lot of videos that he's posted or that he's an inside job sure sure sure there's a lot of videos that he has posted

that are like smoking gun evidence is like at the title of it right and so i would i would bring up i i'd like to talk to you about this article smoking gun evidence that nine eleven was an inside job mm-hmm what is this about it's a smoking gun you just tell me what is it about you just tell me i guarantee like he would guess wrong yeah absolutely there have been a hundred articles or even like a you know smoking gun covet is a killer 100 vaccine kills which one what is the smoking which smoking gun is this one yeah what you'd never get it right i would just put him in a room where that had the floor covered in guns and 30 co2 and then we could really get to the bottom of all of his issues you know is co2 good for you

turns out not how many floors can you have how many guns can you have on a floor that's another question he has so alex and dairy uh this gets back to where you were talking earlier about how it seemed like they looked at this as like a righteous oh yeah yeah yeah this is where like it really gets into that and this feels really messed up the true believers are looking forward to the to this next millennium to this next thousand years so um but but but again you have to have studied this the person also be part of the birth pains absolutely absolutely and again if people don't understand this i caught world leaders it's been an esquire magazine it's been in the press democrat front page mainstream san francisco paper it's been on national

television in europe i snuck in and caught world leaders in black and red robes worshiping the devil so why are you offended by us talking about how we're christians and how our bible tells us this would happen in detail and we're kooky but world leaders can dance around worshiping molik i mean if world leaders are worshiping the devil we're going to be judged nations are judged that is the bottom line would you agree mr brownfield absolutely and that's what i said earlier today i think i've said it two or three times on national tell our national radio that it's difficult for me to pray for america today i can pray for god people and i can pray that there's many people going to be saved as they possibly can but when our own children

cannot go to a public american government tool and stand up and sing god bless america how can god bless america i think the fetal tissue is part of it i think the trading with china giving them the olympics when they kill their political dissidents and blow up 450 churches pissed off god so badly last year when they're murdering the Tibetans well go a little go closer to home how about all the murdering we're doing to our own children yes the drugging of them the abortion we're being judged ladies and gentlemen now this is the family i think it's just the beginning alec and decadence societies are always judged well they have been and they will continue to be best you guys are exactly right i'll leave you alone okay thank you darin bless it is the nation

that uh has that believes in god you know and kersen is the ones that don't yeah so 9 11 was um a political punishment from god this is no different than like pat robertson's kind of shit yeah mocked rightfully yep um i i'm gonna throw this out at you okay um did you ever notice how god is exactly as dumb as the people talking about god you know like it is so crazy to me that we can hear alec say i want them nuked and then we can hear him talk about his god just nuking people whenever he feels like they need to be well and there's a so crazy there's an interesting other sort of branch that goes off these thoughts sure and that is that god is right and god is you know infallible and so god's judgment for the political decisions that you disagree with

is doing a 9 11 right that kind of implies that you want to do that to people to punish them for things like abortion yeah it is almost like the people in those planes justified spiritually flying into those buildings justified their behavior almost exactly the same way you just justified their behavior how crazy is that there are weird wrinkles but it was the e you so that's right so maybe that's right that's right i forgot this show is a mess it is a i think you understand why we have to do these as separate absolutely absolutely i don't know what's happening we were 98 percent sure it was the government now it's the e you yeah oh man i'm half convinced it's gonna be squatch by the end of this it's gotta be squatch it's gotta be the

squash um there's only one hero for us and that's the squad so there's um this is dumb yeah american people don't even know what war is to my knowledge this is the first time there has ever been an attack on american soil other than the british then you should learn more talking about in modern history anything that anybody can remember what we went through two world wars and never was attacked not true yeah we had some german um agents blow up a weapons dump in new york with the media never covered that they said it was an accident well i don't know pearl harbour dumb dumb i was gonna say you realize that that big attack the biggest attack that literally anybody could remember before this point yeah yeah that was big that's huge it was on american soil see yeah

but i guess there's some kind of maybe alex doesn't look at non mainland as sure america sure fine fine if we're just going to make arbitrary rules about fucking everything yeah that's that's inappropriate all i is a part of the united states now it's u.s. oil that was attacked doesn't count i understand that he thinks that's a false flag too yeah that's fair but still it happened oh also the fucking earlier bombing of the world trade center hey you remember that one anyway yeah there you should learn more yeah i i do appreciate anytime somebody i i it's the only one i can remember and then you can just be like well learn go go find more there are so at this point alex does a reset recaps the news sure in case you're joining late

i just don't know what to say to any of it for those just tuning in they don't know what we're talking about four planes both the world trade center towers with tens of thousands of people in them have collapsed hit by large passenger planes a plane hit the pentagon blowing up a large portion of that catching it on fire and then outside pittsburgh pa one slam into their international airport probably shot down by my fighters fighters are swarming everywhere four carriers have delivered their payload of planes out into the air we've got jets scrambled everywhere they're flying around here in texas right now above us and they're declaring civil emergency and putting the feds out on the streets in major capital cities why would they be flying over

austin tech i don't know i was outside earlier and there goes a jet flying by so this is interesting because later on part of alex's conspiracies will revolve around why didn't they scramble jets right and so here he is reporting four things have deployed their payload and he personally saw fighter jets scrambled over austin so i guess he just forgot about that yeah or maybe he's making it up here and he knows that he can just retcon it whenever he feels like yeah maybe that must be a really comforting thought to be able to just be like listen i'll just say that this is different like not imagine you don't even have to fix it in post you know it's like you you do the show yeah it says something and then you're just like i tell you it didn't and that's it and that's

fine it's basically like if you're doing a sitcom and like it's episodic sure right so every episode is a new set of circumstances consequences don't necessarily carry over Bart Simpson still 12 years old but you can't carry some things over that's you get to choose what is reset and what isn't and then the audience is just like yeah this makes sense it's jarring it's fucking jarring it breaks my brain it's narratively untenable in one episode it's narratively have to just not pay attention yeah that base you have to passively absolutely this wash over you yeah or else you're fucked yeah so this is really a bad call here alex takes a call and it really kind of pissed me off um i think this obviously shows that the united states immigration policy is flawed

the borders of this country should have been closed down or restricted many many many moons ago obviously the terrorists were able to get in this country and they're not going to do that they're going to track and trace you and your family biometrically the some scan to get food as they're already putting them in and the borders are going to be wide open brother if you're paying any attention this is a pretty big reveal that alex mostly just talks out of his ass here the caller suggests that borders should have been closed a long ago so they could keep immigrants out and alex agrees but earlier alex was erroneously reporting that the borders had been sealed in response to the attacks and that was martial law sealing the borders up is good when it's a part of alex's

xenophobic fantasies but it's bad when it's a theoretical part of a country responding to a giant terrorist attack you can pretty easily see the flaws in alex's thinking and how this lacks any real consistency but this clip is actually worse than that when he's riffing around with this caller about how bad immigration is alex says that the government isn't going to close the borders because they just want to track and trace your family but we've already established as a confirmed piece of alex's reporting that the borders have been sealed which is part of uh it's being framed as part of the martial law takeover that detail of alex's coverage is now inconvenient for his more important talking point about how bad immigration is so he just ignores it this is how

information works in alex's world something can be presented as a fact in order to scare the audience about how the police state is here and then without any explanation the opposite can be presented to scare the audience about immigration what's important to recognize here is the claim and the negation of the claim which is to say reporting that the borders are sealed and also saying they never would close the border it's wide open both serve the same purpose which is why it doesn't matter to the audience that they're contradictory and on the surface would make alex's show incoherent both of these center on the listener uh and the white conservative christian american listener in general and it centers them as the victim if the border is being sealed it's

because that's martial law and they're coming to take your guns and put you in a FEMA camp because you're a conservative white christian american if it's the border is never going to be sealed it's because they want to solve the problem of foreign terrorism by tracking and tracing your family instead of stopping immigrants from coming into this country both of these ideas that alex's pitching satisfy the emotional need to be under attack that he and his audience are addicted to it doesn't matter if these things make no sense because they're not meant to they emotionally resonate with the thing that people come to alex for yeah and that is really really like i don't know if it's because the intensity of the event that he's covering but it becomes so

clear in stark contrast that alex can simultaneously be reporting that the government has sealed the borders and it's martial law and we should seal the borders because otherwise it's a conspiracy to attack mainstream america with immigrants yeah it's just it's nonsense yeah if i were an american i would have closed the borders right around the time of the first crusade and then saved yourself a lot of fucking trouble yeah i i find this to be unacceptable yeah but it is really illustrative and i think that you can you can learn a bit about how to process a lot of the ways that other narratives that seem weird on his show uh why they're there sure and how good how a lot of this is navigated it centers the listener as the the aggrieved one the one who is put upon sure by whatever

the larger conspiracy is right some of it is some of the function of conspiracies is to make things uh that are complicated make sense or give some sense of comfort in a chaotic world but some of it is also to make you feel like to just agitate you into a frenzy to always be in a fight or flight mode with your adrenaline glands fucking pumping into your brain and to give an excuse for why maybe you're not as happy as you want to for sure for sure that's because there's a massive conspiracy that centers on the identity that you are right and a massive excuse for why you believe that they're coming to kill you and all you're doing is sending him money sure and it rationalizes fairly extreme politics because the alternative is submitting to the

people who are obviously going to kill you lesser of two evils sure you've always got a vote for the lesser of two evils yep anyway uh in this next clip uh it's just this is this is the core of what this becomes and it's just victim fetish aren't our major government facilities protected at all by our air force it doesn't seem like we're going to pull housewives out of their cars at military checkpoints like we've already been doing in texas and tennessee that's on my website mainstream news stories that are out you know as well as i do this is not only a terrorist don't worry hold on don't worry about the chinese military in the panama canal the threat is the house wife that has an old revolver in her closet mr brownfield any comments thanks for the call walley

not really i'll tell you what i have a meeting down town in about 45 minutes well you better go um that's about as impassioned as you've seen yeah you know and that guy's responsive like anyways it's 9 11 i gotta get to a meeting bye crazy yeah just crazy yep but dairy's gotta go he's got this meeting sure sure sure um and so alex needs another bro to come in and so ted comes back naturally um and this is this clip was depressing um because it starts with ted giving voice to one of the very few times in this entire show that uh concern and humanity is really expressed and then it goes bad are you blown away like i am oh god and my heart goes out to the people first thing i mean i i just i i well this is your second appearance so thing we're having a family

member caught up in this thing and i it's just it's just it's mind-boggling to think of the tragedy that just occurred uh but you know then you you know it's a financial institution you know that those two buildings are worth a tremendous amount of money oh my god and the investors that were put you know put the money behind that particular thing if it's the poor investors in the financial industry there's no question about it i mean basically you know billions of dollars have just been lost within a matter of seconds right as the eu euro get out of here online and they delivered well you know but that's one of the reasons why a lot of people get into gold because there could be gold sitting in the basement of that building and after they dig the rubble out

the gold's still valuable oh god yeah but i mean on one hand it is more empathetic than or at least it begins more empathetic than pretty much all of this show so far um but yeah it goes pretty quickly to financial conversation but some of that i think is why you just wouldn't want to have him on on that day because i think that's the world he's he's in sure and so that's one of the ways he processes the event is is my livelihood and my entire life is based around commodities trading in precious metals and currency well i mean the their god king uh on the day said now i have the tallest building so yeah i was kind of wondering if that would come up on the episode that would be that would be really not on his day show oh man um but yeah i i think that's why you

just i mean i understand ted's your boss and he runs all the companies and stuff but like it's not it's not necessarily it looks tacky i i okay the first unless your show is entirely financial base sure or if you have a segment like 10 minutes of every hour is the ted corner the ted talk oh he could have branded that before he could have gotten their way earlier to let an asshole um then that makes some sense sure that we got the financial minute with ted right but this is this just looks gauche there the thing that blew me away was won't someone think of the landlords please won't someone please think of the landlords but who are the most aggrieved and bereaved right jordan but here's the that was fucked up but here's what here's

what got me uh here's what got me uh and that's why you buy gold because even if it even if they put gold at the bottom of the world trade center you can dig that up that's still valuable if you are selling me gold under the twin towers yeah on 9 11 it's not good you could have used an example like a pirate ship or something that is the mo i i it's using the image of the tragedy in order to promote the value of the thing you sell and that sucks anyways yankee's red socks tonight that sucks too the the other thing that i was thinking about too is that like okay like obviously this looks bad and is gross yeah but at the same time you do have to accept that the people who own the building the business interests that were affected by it it's not a non-issue for sure now

is not the time now is not the time right you you handle accounting issues days later now that said the gold underneath the trade center is a selling point is unacceptable and it's not i can't believe that it's not just that it's not the time that is never the time i i i i'm shocked that a human being could do that yeah i would i would never ever in a minute i can promise you for as creative as my mind may or may not be never what i've gotten to here's my sales pitch right i think if you were asked to write uh like what do you think alex's show on nine eleven was like you couldn't imagine that i wouldn't imagine that i would never in a million years have thought that he would have said that that's amazing so he uh he goes off air after a few more

pointless calls um and here is our last clip from alex's show from the day of nine eleven i mean do you think any arab country would really do this and want to be turned into a parking lot i never if they were going to do that they would have nuked israel and i ran now has nukes well i here you have nukes why wouldn't they go ahead and do that no no no no been a lot i don't think so is a cias said i believe the e you was involved in this uh there is a fisher there is a tectonic power struggle in the new world order right now well i i don't believe that uh uh this was done by the by the arab sun so we have at the end of alex's broadcast day sure uh for his daytime show

the conclusion that the e you is probably involved nine eleven e you job so this is i mean like honestly it's hard to sum this up because it's so weird and you'd kind of expect it to be weird given that it is okay day of there's unfolding information but here's the other thing that's blowing my mind now the unfolding information does not affect the broadcast that much if at all outside of a couple of things that dairy brings to his attention some of which are not accurate at all some are half accurate yeah outside of that there's not much like in terms of updates that are being incorporated it's kind of shit talking yeah yeah i think i can sum up the episode pretty well and it's 33 plus 175

minus 16 plus uh well actually minus 93 because they got that one wrong sure right well actually minus 60 because they got 33 right okay um so that puts us at where do have you been keeping track of this no but i like where you're going with it all right you're cooking with gas yeah 42 okay yeah so 98 chance it's the uh inside job yep it was the government for sure yep now it's the e you job i believe so we uh much like alex will be taking a break he goes off air and then comes back at nine that evening and we will be back on wednesday to go over what's changed we'll see is it still the e you does alex still think we deserved it god knows but uh until then jordan we have a website we do have a website it's knowledge fight.com yep

we're also on twitter we are on twitter it's at knowledge underscore fight and i go to bed jordan yep we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx kark i'm deri brownfield and now here comes the sex robot andy and chansas you're on the air thanks for holding hello alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you