Knowledge Fight - #707: Dan's War

Episode Date: July 29, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan break down the documentary that pretends to tell the story of Alex's life and career, and find a whole lot of serious problems along the way.

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in your hotel. Yeah. Did you break it. No I did not. Walked in there broken. Sure. I'm proud of myself. First time I've ever seen something broken before I touched it. Yeah I don't buy it. First time ever. Fair enough. But what's your right spot for today. My right spot today Jordan is the good people at Nora bar out in Louisville Kentucky Louisville. Some people pronounce it. Yes. If you're ever out there the best karaoke bar that's out of the Mississippi heroes of the day. I swear to God you don't even know. Yeah. So to fill everyone in we had even more technical problems. We're going to put out an episode yesterday. We totally meant to go Wednesday Thursday Friday as we had had some fun stuff to talk about but could not get it done. No

really fucked up. It was it was looking good for a minute and then it all just fell apart. I mean it is it is apropos to call this a war because we did win a lot of battles. Some we lost some battles. We lost. We lost some battles but we did win some battles. There were some times where we were so close. It's debatable if we actually won those battles or if we just had the appearance and feeling that we had won those battles. Well I mean we didn't overthrow Charleston. I get it. Like the the war ended with peace. Not you know like hope sprung eternal. Yeah but Zach the proprietor of Nora bar indeed is a friend of our our buddy here in Austin the not a health ranger John and he helped us out hooked it up and now we've got our equipment

all set up and I'm not touching it. God damn I know we are we are about I honestly think we should move a little bit further away. Yeah. I mean you have to be able to read but I could be in the other room. I'm really worried that there's going to be some kind of a like electromagnetic field that I give off that. Oh shit the Ocean's Eleven crews outside. They're putting out an EMP. Yeah. So anyway if you are in Louisville I've pronounced it three ways now. That's the correct number of ways to pronounce it. I've been there karaoke at Nora bar. Anyway what's your bright spot. Boy you know there's no bright spot brighter than finally getting to do this show. Dan we we have recorded almost several shows. Yeah pretty close and it has been a little bit like edging

but like if edging was with knives you know like it really really hurts and now to be here talking to you spectacular and knowing that we have a thing in front of us. Yes. Yes indeed. So Jordan today here's here's the old sitch that we find ourselves in. Quite honestly I forgot to get wonk shout outs and I think I'm not going to. Don't worry no offense. We have been jumping through a lot of hurdles. Spoiler alert. It's almost midnight. You don't even know what time it is and you don't want to know when we end. You don't want to have any idea. No. No. Keep that shit far away from you and let me deal with it. Let's pretend. So Jordan today we are going to be talking about Alex's war. The new documentary that has come out comes out today.

What. How did you possibly see it. Some people have accused me of being a witch and let's just say that. Did you search into your crystal ball and watch it from a distance. God gave me a vision of this documentary when I was four. Well it turns out you're actually close friends with Glenn Greenwald and you were there at the screening right. Yeah that's right. Yeah I'm helping him support Bolsonaro's regime. Yes that's that's correct. So I managed to do some watching of this thing and I got some thoughts on this bad boy. Oh yeah. It comes out today. Accurate 100 percent I assume. Well here's my first thought. What. Too long. It's two hours and 11 minutes. No no no no no good movie 90 minutes max. Trim that baby up.

Max. Especially if you're doing a theatrical release. You expect people to sit and watch Alex for that long. I was. Well I well let me tell you this right now Dan when I was in the courtroom today people watched Alex's show for a full hour. How did you think they did. I was watching the stream of that and they did. I mean I think your tweet about one of the jurors who was writing notes that is in the middle of it just sat down. When I saw him he was right there. I looked over his shoulder when I saw him writing so diligently he like really cared and then at one moment you could see him stop and you were like yep we've all gotten there. He realized like I don't need to pay attention to this. Nope this is not going to we are doing anything.

We're done here. So this this is going to be something and I will say actually interestingly I even had a context drop from this documentary and I actually think that Alex sums up some of my feelings about this documentary fairly well. Interesting. Which I'm just ranting the whole thing's horseshit. It's all just insane. Yep. Yeah. That's pretty close to to my feelings. I think you are just ranting. It's all horseshit. Is that a deep fake. Shallow fake. Yes. So like I said this thing is too long and there's a lot of problems but in advance of this documentary coming out Jordan I want to bring this up. There have been some people who have maybe shown a few too many of their cards in discussing this

documentary. Some of these cards have been a little difficult to interpret. They were but they were shown all the same. You have Glenn Greenwald who agreed to do an embarrassing Q&A event at the premiere of this film where he interviewed Alex as a promotional event for the movie. We're going to cover that Q&A on our next episode so I'll leave some of my more specific thoughts on the side for a moment. And then you had Matt Taiibi who posted a ridiculous post on his sub-stack where he appeared to just want to scold people who think this documentary is bad. I honestly don't know his full argument because apparently the full thing is behind a paywall and you can fuck right off with that but you get the point just from the free version.

This is one of the more particularly pathetic passages in that quote. In the pre-Trump era it was understood reporters weren't supposed to avoid ugly or scary topics. We were supposed to dive right in and in the non-judgmental manner of doctors figure them out. That was the job but somewhere along the line it became too taboo to ask the usual why questions about the likes of Trump or 4chan surfers or the subject of Moyer's new movie Alex's war. The infamous info wars host Alex Jones. I'm gonna have to stop you right there. I threw a brick through his window while you were reading that. It is a little frustrating. Yeah. After scolding people who aren't engaging enough with monsters Taiibi ends his free section with this quote. Journalists now aren't supposed

to look too closely at their motivations and most don't. Wearing in in curiosity like a badge of honor. Moyer looked. Referring to Alex Lee Moyer the director of this documentary. I read Taiibi's book like 20 years ago where it was like the octopus capitalism whatever bullshit he was writing then and I was like man this guy's got some thoughts and much like Glenn Greenwald he shit himself in his mouth. That's crazy. Having watched this documentary I can tell you that if Taiibi isn't getting paid to write that he either hasn't seen this film or he's one of the stupidest assholes on substack and that is a deep roster of stupid assholes. We'll see through this exploration that this is not a documentary that asks why at any point and to the extent that it's even a concern

the why is entirely constructed by the subject of the film Alex himself. When you have somebody who's a huge liar and the reason he's divisive is because he's a hateful liar who lies all the time it's kind of irresponsible to produce a documentary about them that skirts the issue almost entirely and if it's even addressed at all it would just be Alex saying I'm not a liar which is then taken as fact. There are no dissenting voices there is no other side presented at all outside of random people on the street yelling at Alex and short snippets of TV hosts making fun of him which actually aren't included to provide any sense of balance they're there to inflate the image of Alex's noble persecution. This documentary sucks. I will say that right off the top here and I make

no bones about it. I'm not trying to pretend to be a Taiibian neutral observer. Here's what we need to do. We need to bottle you up for another few like before our next episode we need to make it impossible for you to record anything so that you're all of your fury and passion and rage goes into writing about Matt Taiibis bullshit. Man you are a fucking dynamo my friend. I don't want to go that direction. Fair enough. But this Alex Jones is a subject that I know and understand intimately and seeing it covered like this and witnessing these supposed free thinkers like Taiibi and Glenn Greenwald congratulate themselves for having the courage to support this film is disgusting. Seeing them scold people for not engaging with what is pure and simple and exercise

in whitewashing and rehabilitating the image of Alex strategically released at the time of his Sandy Hook trials beginning is an inexcusable act of either malice or intense delusion. I can accept that it's possible that they think this film presents a fair and nuanced picture of Alex and then maybe they aren't acting out of the place of severely ill will but I have to say if that's the case then they're guilty of the very thing they're scolding everybody else about not engaging with difficult subjects. The only way to think that this documentary can be experienced as just showing Alex as he is would be if you have done zero investigation on him and simply accept the framing that's put in front of you unquestioningly. Having spent more than my fair share of time

researching the topic I can say with absolute confidence that Greenwald and Taiibi and anybody else who's not a full-on info warrior or right-wing zealot who says that this documentary shows a complicated and fair picture of Alex they're a coward who's afraid to look at Alex as he actually is or they've been tricked. Fuck these people who are trying to rehabilitate Alex's image and make fawning portraits of him more mainstream using whatever credibility they have in some perverted exercise of like oh you guys just can't handle dealing with this person who you're afraid of or he's saying things that are dangerous to your worldview. Fuck off. Done 700 episodes on this clown. Let it be known that this will go down as one of the

most righteously furious weeks of any human beings in the history of the world between you, me, Mark, etc. This shit is... How are we in this room? Did you hear that the fire department was called earlier today? Oh I was taking a nap and I was woken up by them saying everyone can come back into their rooms. I was in my room the whole time and I was like you know what this is because I'm too mad. Oh yeah see if I were Alex I would say that it was Alex and the info warriors trying to smoke us out of the building so they could attack us like he said about Chantilly, Virginia when he was staying at that hotel outside Bilderberg and he pretended that he was under attack. That's a good point. Dan I'm gonna self say to myself neighbors. Yeah I also want to say that that incident where

Alex pretended that the globalists were trying to attack him and Chantilly not in this documentary. I'm gonna make a lot of points of things that aren't in here. That would be smart. Also the time that he went bullhorn Bilderberg in Canada. No not in this. Did they play that? No what? No guitar or no violin. What's the fucking point? I know. So anyway here is the beginning of the film and it starts with a one shot of Alex staring at the camera a much younger man. Hello I'm Alex Jones and I'm a radio and television host based in Austin Texas and for many years I've been exposing the criminal activities of the global elite also known as the New World Order. My research has covered such topics as the militarization of police, the attack on America's national sovereignty,

the destruction of private property rights, the family. All of these institutions must be destroyed before the establishment can create their ultimate dream, a one world government. So this documentary begins with a clip that was originally the intro for Alex's film Dark Secrets Inside Bohemian Grove. It's kind of fitting because although Alex probably shot to prominence mostly through his 9-11 conspiracy activity, one of his earliest publicity stunts that he pulled was the whole charade of Bohemian Grove and what is this documentary Alex's War but another publicity stunt. There's a thematic resonance that may not have been intended that is made by putting this clip at the start of this documentary. It links Alex's bullshit from his

early career to the bullshit he's in the middle of trying to pass off and sell you as you watch this documentary. In the same way that he intentionally lied about the circumstances of his trip to the Grove in order to manufacture a false reality that affirmed his worldview, this documentary is literally nothing other than Alex Lee Moyer allowing Alex to use her to do that again, present a wholly dishonest portrait that creates a false reality wherein Alex's idiotic worldview is affirmed and shown to have been right all along. Based on literally everything in this documentary I can very confidently say that this is not what Moyer was going for. But it's interesting if you want to overanalyze it like a lit major.

Sure yeah no I can definitely see the what what what would you call it like the incidental irony of the circumstance wherein you know if you were making one movie you could play this clip but if you were making a movie about that movie you would play that clip and then play like a cut over it where it's like boom wrong you know like that kind of thing and then you the rest of your movie would begin. Yeah yeah there there may be a couple moments in this film that kind of have that feeling to it it's like you didn't mean this but it's that there's an accidental thing here that's being coming across. It's a VH1 behind the music right? A little bit like a little bit like worse. You watch you watch the documentary about a cheap trick you know and it's like oh it's so

cool that they're alive and then you watch the behind the music and it's like they did a lot of drugs and they're all dead you know it's like that kind of feeling. Oh no yeah yeah oh I'm so sad yeah. And then things took a turn. So the documentary itself starts with some glamour shots basically of Owen Troyer at the Stop the Steel rallies in November in DC and some people are yelling at him and what have you it's a it's a good time. Sure. Wow. For a million man march, mega march, this ain't a million people, this is the same opening to Swan Lake. Did you know that? Yeah so the doc begins with a bunch of shots of Owen dramatically yelling into a bullhorn

where surrounded by a ton of security, many of whom are the same folks that we've been seeing in the courtroom. Interspersed are shots of people yelling at the Trump fans more or less meant to signify the threat of Antifa I guess to justify the ridiculous amount of bodyguards every Info Wars person has when they're in public, absurd. Also this is where the film introduces its framing device. The film begins with footage from DC from the Stop the Steel protests that happened in November 2020 which you may recall is the endpoint of Owen's stupid caravan. This is presented as 72 days until the election which will be how all of this is understood. The documentary is uh I'm sorry not 72 days till the election the inauguration. Sure sure.

This documentary is a countdown to the point when Biden is set to be sworn in with the flashbacks to points of Alex's career thrown in in order to I guess pad the run time or something. Yeah what was the name of your uh dance caravan project? There it is yeah there it is yeah let's just make sure that's part one and two. Before we get any further it goes without saying that there are huge chunks of Alex's career that are completely ignored by this film. For instance there's no mention of his highly disgraceful Boston bombing coverage. There's nothing about Jade Howell but there's nothing about Y2K. These things and countless others aren't included because if they were mentioned it would detract from the illusion that this film is

trying to construct. Times that Alex was wrong like about Sandy Hook are meant to be seen as the rare occasions when he's meant well but got something wrong. Looking at the broader picture of Alex's career would too easily reveal a different pattern which really doesn't serve Moyer or this documentary's purpose. Through this you see lies that Alex is presenting uh and they are being delivered by Moyer with literally no pushback and no other perspective being presented at all. At other points there are instances of full-on deceitful framing that is entirely the product of how Moyer decided to edit this film. There are intentional choices that could have been made by the director or could not have it as they were making the film it was up to them.

Uh I'm going to do my best to uh be sure to delineate the differences between these types of deception because it's important to recognize how this product is actually a lie that Moyer and Alex are collaborating on uh creating whether or not there's actually like complete discussions. Regardless of whether or not Alex and Moyer like get into a room together and Alex is like hey make me look like I've got a giant dick it doesn't matter. Yeah yeah they're they're creating that through both of their mediums. Right. Alex through lying and Moyer through directing. Selectively editing and such yes. But here's the thing Alex is just doing what he always does. He's a narcissistic liar so what would you expect him to do other than to lie to create a heroic

mythology about himself. Moyer on the other hand is pretending to be a documentarian and almost everything in this film is a lie that she's telling through framing or a lie that she's letting Alex tell and choosing to present without any question or any suggestion even of any doubt. She is in essence responsible for all of the dishonesty in this documentary either through intentional choices or negligent filmmaking and I think that will be borne out through the process of our conversation here today. Gotcha so I'm I'm hearing that maybe all right she is not a good cat. Um no I don't think so. I don't know. I don't know all that much about her other than she's been on in fours a bit. She made that a couple times just like about her documentaries. She it's funny on this show that

that should alone by itself be like oh well then this lady is a monster and we're like well we got to find some other credits to prove she's bad. Yeah she made that incel documentary. Oh yes she was um she was there at the Greenwald Q&A and hung her head looking at her lap most of Alex's interview perfect. Anyway Owen goes on to complain a little bit just dramatically. I had been here since the uh since the fake pandemic and it's sad I come back to DC for everything shut down everything's locked down businesses are boarded up you can't even go get breakfast you can't even go get dinner you can't even go shopping you got to wear a face mask you got to get a test you got to go into

quarantine and it's given me a real taste of what a communist country would look like and it fucking sucks so I don't want the Democrats to turn America into a communist hellhole. Hey thank you police we love you guys. What Owen doesn't want is a country where his access to luxury and leisure commodities is in any way restricted. He has essentially translated that into being what communism is so when there's a temporary shutdown of some businesses because there's an active pandemic that's killing thousands of people a day Owen's only way of experiencing that is to say that's communism he can't go to the water park so America has fallen to Mao or something which is weird because I kind of had the opposite experience most of the liquor

stores didn't deliver booze until after the pandemic so now I feel like you know there were some positives I'm not saying there were no positives yeah well you gotta take the rough with the spoon as they say thank god for small miracles so it's important to understand that a lot of the understanding that alex and the enforce ideology has of concepts like communism or freedom are painfully superficial and they often revolve around appearances for instance alex constantly talks about the police state being like police in black ski masks which is an aesthetic characteristic he doesn't you know talk as frequently about what behaviors would be associated with a police state like police determining law and acting with impunity to meet out justice because

that would be way too complicated and when it actually does happen he's generally in favor of it he doesn't usually have a problem yeah well I mean constitutional's constitutional sheriffs yeah by maritime law are allowed to kill and execute anybody who disagrees with yeah no no that makes it makes sense if you think real not soft about it if you think real soft about it yeah not the the optics that Owen is describing could easily exist in a capitalist country there is nothing that would be stopping that yeah at the core the point that's being made is I don't like the bad and scary thing and then they're just naming that thing communism or in alex's case like martial law sure the words have no meaning they're basically just signifiers for

like right no right yeah yeah they could just be pointing at a sign that had whatever on it it doesn't matter no good yeah but again I think it's pretty bold of this uh documentary to start out with uh Owen complaining a bunch sure and it continues but I do think it's sad that the violent left gets to come to DC and riot and loot and burn and destroy it's destroy monuments destroy parks and uh churches and then when we come to town a group of people who have never burned ever looted never rioted never done any criminal activity they shut down the whole city smash cut January 6th we can't go in front of the white house we can't go into parks but the left who lot riots and loots and destroys they get full access to all of it

they get to put their property the capital has fallen but god fearing america loving patriots come to town and they shut this city down so pretty pathetic in dc i'm not gonna lie yeah I mean he's talking he's talking about like the left destroying churches and like right around this point I believe is when his buddy Enrique Tario is stealing a black lives matter banner from a church and burning it yeah and getting arrested yeah that one so it should be mentioned here that about a thousand proud boys are pictured in this documentary with info wars personalities it's wall to wall in the first 10 minutes alone Owen is seen with the head of the proud boys Enrique Tario and Rob do has a chat with the head of the oath keepers Stuart Rhodes whom he calls

brother you know the wire had a lot of former convicts in the show you know because that gave it a sense of realism sure it's interesting that this documentary has a lot of future convicts true and not presented as dicey weirdos so these two men Enrique Tario and Stuart Rhodes are leaders of groups who participated in organized planning prior to January 6th and stand charged with seditious conspiracy for their actions attempting to stop the certification of the 2020 election I don't think any left-wing group Owen can name has done anything close to that level of rioting and the leaders of both of those groups are his friends yeah that's gonna be tough to argue around calm the fuck down these groups do all kinds of street violence and destruction but that's super

inconvenient for the info wars narrative so it's never happened before anytime a right wing or militia group has done something it's either been purely self-defense against the left who are actually the real problem oh totally or it was secretly the feds reality has to be constructed this way because if you don't do this then you'd have to distance yourself from these groups and marginalize the violent wing of the movement that you've constructed Alex would never do that because he needs these groups he needs them to continue to engage in street violence and hostile intimidation and they need folks like him and Owen to justify it to their audiences by pretending it's only the left that ever acts that way and this is only considering the groups that are literally in

this documentary and friends of the subjects you could branch this out to all sorts of far more militant right-wing groups from the patriot front on up down the line you and you'd wind up with the picture that the right has a substantially greater problem with organized rioting and violent outbursts than any leftist community or the specter of Antifa could ever be saddled with well what you're forgetting is the absolutely violent leftist group that came about whenever Crayola put the the peach uh uh crayon as skin tone oh and they're called crayon tifa oh no crayon tifa yep yep i'm gonna i'm gonna live with that one i'm gonna call home that's my my friends and family are gonna know about that one to change the mood i should tell you that there was a guy who was

walking behind oh and at this point who was wearing a trump flag as a fantastic so that's fun yeah so this cuts to oh and being interviewed in a black cowboy hat uh in a hotel room i don't know about i live in we live in a great world i don't know much about cowboy hat sizing but it feels too big a little too big it feels too big it's too big i'm not an expert okay but i think it's too big coming from a neutral perspective you say do you think government is corrupt like 90 percent of people are going to answer yes to that do you think that mainstream media is corrupt again like 90 percent of people are going to answer yes to that but i mean sadly you can't convince people i think that what they see on tv is a

lie otherwise alex jones would have retired a long time ago he's good no no no he's good good uh alex wouldn't have retired he would have said that the new thing that replaced the mainstream media was lying to them if he'd gotten his wish in 2008 and ron paul had been elected president he would have done his whole deep state thing back then finding traders everywhere in the paul cabinet i suspect the reason oh and laughed when he said alex would have retired long goes because he knows that's not true yeah total bullshit yeah you hear the music swelling there and because this is the point in the documentary about seven minutes in where we

see present day alex for the first time this is a choice this is a hero shot with the triumphant crescendo and alex being flanked by tons of people marching in dc this is a decision that moyer made as a director to introduce alex this way it's it's almost like he has arrived no no when the director was like let's put patent in front of this giant american flag the director had no idea that that would make people think oh this is a patriotic man this is a hero yeah yeah no clue that was just a happy accident yeah i i would say not not great not not great for maybe not so this is alex's second introduction the first was an intro to him as a concept with the clip of alex from dark secrets this is meant to instill the message that he's been talking about

the same thing for his whole career and he's been prophetic about all this stuff the second is an intro to him as a person as he exists now and you see him as a man vindicated leading a giant crowd no longer the outskirt uh outcast on the fringes of society i have to stress this these are filmmaking choices this is how moyer wants the audience to see alex as he's introduced and that would be totally fine if this film questioned that presentation at any point but it really doesn't right it's just this is glorification right right all right that to me is a problem i mean it doesn't get more how how do you live with yourself is a question that i've been asking a lot like as i've watched shitball uh make arguments in court that's the defense

lawyer's nickname yeah forever now uh it's it is a there's a certain part of me that wonders at how many times have i said there's no bottom how many times a few and yet i look at his brazenness and i think there's no way that's real you know and so with this kind of shit it's such the same thing there's no way yeah this is real yeah i am we're living in fake town it's it has to be fakeville yeah um i also should say it's a good thing you brought up something that had to do with the trial because we will have a trial update on our next episode don't worry don't worry this documentary is uh it's a it's of the the most it's today we're in the zeitgeist yep so we have uh owen introduced talking we have alex triumphant man leading a charge on the streets totally

and then we get another character and that is the man with the kangle hat rob do oh i was hoping for erigorn is nobody has one job you have to be able to adapt very quickly to ever-changing situations i answered a correct list edit so everybody gets into force i did an interview with a couple guys and at one point they said uh this is working for info wars does that make a difference they're like very kind of apologetic and i said no that's cool and i'd already been listening i knew alex johnson was living in austin and you see him all the time you go out in the crowd alex johnson is the most popular person here today he's the most popular people know who i am and i'm fucking behind the scenes and it keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger and now that they

banned him and done all this stuff to him it makes him even more prophetic not good in court you know you get up you carry the ball four yards every day you're gonna get moved down the field and that's what he does i think alex probably does carry the ball about four yards every day but the problem is that for a really long time he's been not heading towards the end zone he's been like going four yards toward the sideline and then he changes directions every now and again he's been out of bounds for a really long time is what i'm saying oh yeah rob's uh metaphor is stupid as is rob do himself shown here in his trademark kangal hat he got this job through craigslist which is fun but in my experience most of the talent on info wars gets their job through winning a contest

it's like willy wonka for bullshit i guess that the behind the scenes folks all just answered the wrong vaguely worded craigslist ad that doesn't say info wars on it so you can trick people into possibly working there because most people wouldn't do that but you know my aunt was on who wants to be a millionaire did you know that have i ever said that before i didn't i didn't know that she didn't actually get to do the questioning part but she did describe to me constantly the experience of like answering who wants to be a millionaire questions as the audition and then getting the audition and then so on and so forth that was a more complex and difficult process than becoming an info wars yeah for sure or the nightly news director exactly yeah and one of the things that

i mean is is fun is that like rob do got his job the same way i almost got scammed on a clerical opening and i answered an ad for a um a histology lab assistant position in 2009 and i'm still getting you right right right no i well rob do sent me an email asking to be my roommate but only if i sent him a couple thousand dollars because he needed money to move in with me and he couldn't afford it at the time but when he got there he would have paid me twice as much so you know i almost thought about it but i don't think it was true probably not yeah so here's where alex comes in in earnest speaking to the camera laying out the truth oh no everything's a war i mean that's the way the universe works there are competing forces that

are trying to dominate and everything is propagated the general public doesn't realize they're under attack by information and so i want people to become aware of propaganda and how it operates in the info war so we call ourselves really what it all is you guys know who he is you know alex jones says info wars very popular alex jones is a fake and he's a performance artist so this is as close as you get to any kind of counter yeah point being made at all is just these little little slivers of tv host oh i think it's really fun that alex is like uh hey uh so uh look there's war around information and that's how we got our name isn't that cute everything's what it reminds me of the home movies thing between uh brendan and coach McGurk where he's like

everything's a prison brendan brendan everything's a prison the school it's a prison our lives it's prison brendan's like this conversation it's prison yeah they um my buddy ryan beck uh he and i started comedy together in uh columbia and um one of the things that i'll always remember is that i had a belief that all comedy is essentially an argument or a fight well that's a good question so many i want to fight at you about that that which is funny so many good sketches kind of involve people having an argument right right right right and so i was uh like trying to make this point to ryan and then we ended up in an argument of like bipolar and it's hilarious yes yeah absolutely no i mean it seems like all you have to do is show them the montipython

dead bird sketch and you're like this is comedy that's what it is and that is the only sketch that has ever ever existed the only one so uh these clips of tv hosts continue on his website info wars he touts what many would say are offensive claims paranoia porn we're talking about somebody who traffics in some of the sickest uh most offensive types of theories i'm perceived as a clown i'm perceived as a nut i'm perceived as a maniac technocracy is dead on a rival i'm the most man most demonized media person in the world i've had tens of thousands of articles written hundreds and hundreds of tv reports every major national program you can name every major publication i don't feel sorry for myself personally like this is what happens when you get successful

and you're over the target yeah i mean this this is a notion that is going on challenge that all these people are making these criticisms of alex because he's over the target when in reality most of those clips that he played were people making accurate points about him yeah totally yeah it's it's like it's it's just that notion of like you know they laugh at you and then you're right you know that that is that gondi that quote it's like sometimes first they laugh at you then they're like watch out for this dude and then they murder you or whatever sometimes they just laugh at you yeah yeah ideas aren't dangerous sometimes people are saying that uh you suck and you're being an asshole not because you're over the target but because you suck and you're an asshole no

it's like when alex is is sarcastically saying something that somebody else has said that's absolutely accurate where it's like oh alex jones is a racist and you're like you can say it's sarcastically but it's still true yeah you know it doesn't matter it doesn't really affect my feeling on whether objective reality must exist otherwise we all die together well yeah alex has a thought on that disagree we're all gonna die so um this was maybe my favorite part of the documentary okay um fairly early on they show alex behind the desk yeah and he's doing his show and then it goes to commercial and this is all staged no 100 percent this is so fake rob do comes running in no no no no no no no no no no no no this is the fakeest shit i've ever seen

now that's that's some of the good news i'm gonna give you the really nasty news coming up the force inoculations the checkpoints the imploded economy what's that they also got some GMO is this the mRNA vaccine attacks proteins yes and it's the one by insisting on the front of the Pfizer Pfizer it's the bio biointech which i think is the mRNA yeah only fucking shit oh yeah that's the worst so it attacks the protein from the balsam and it packs the protein that helps make the balsam these are motherfuckers these motherfuckers what's that lassie he's trapped it well well we gotta go get him oh my god this

mRNA you're telling me it attacks protein holy fucking shit oh man man wow unsolved mysteries is like that is the greatest recreation anyone's ever done it's a fun fantasy i mean even if even if it weren't real it's not productive and i don't see anything getting done but there is no way i believe that this happens do you know what i feel like i feel like i haven't watched his show as much as i have he is like drinking or sweating in another room right during the breaks right he's not doing any like oh what let's get more information on these stories i'm about to riff about i i i hate to bring this up because i don't have specifics and i don't remember names and i really don't even remember where it's from however this documentary does exist

and it is one where the documentarian gets really close with a bunch of people who committed a genocide and then later over time he gets so close that eventually the people who committed that genocide agree to reenact the genocide they committed on film right that is what this documentary should be not like have you ever considered uh genocide is awesome what about that yeah there are some editorial choices that i take some serious issues with does that but i do think that the vision of rob do running in is so fucking funny everyone is yelling at me they all know the name of that documentary now i'm not no i don't remember either exactly um so i uh uh take some issue with this uh alex starts to discussing his earlier years now this is the the portrait of a man

and he brings up some of his reading history right james joys and i think that this is actually like fairly accurate at the end history is just the river where we jumped in before and so now once you know that history you recognize where you are way down the river where you're at deep i've been in austin since high school i was born in a small town outside dallas probably dying nice my parents were very straighters or books everywhere reading comic books or science fiction books which i first heard out on it like six seven eight years old was fun but as soon as i was reading julius caesar it was like this is real like this is what i want to know about what did julius then i see to read all the history books

around the house it was everything from play-doh to nishi to zebina brzezinski all four even what it all meant but i just couldn't quit looking at it he didn't know what it meant he just kept looking at it this is alex's work process yeah you know what i mean i don't think that there is a more real sort of explanation of alex's information base then i read science fiction in comic books and i really loved them and then i saw smarter books and i stared at them right i couldn't understand them so i skimmed them and then i pretended this was you know reading yeah well i mean it does it is very similar to what i did i read the sandman comics and then i looked at hieroglyphics and i was like well clearly i understand them now mm-hmm yeah yeah i listened

to that album by hieroglyphics and i now know how to read them that wasn't a bad album not bad no del the homo uh del the funky homo sapien del is he's he's opio 75 percent amazing i can't remember any of the other members anyway um alex had some more books that he read there's a theme here i got really stuck on world war two books rise and fall third right sure hines hobels ordered the death said i read the british secret wartime report on the mind of adolf hitler i read that twice it was all about secret societies and hillard trying to take him over and british intelligence and then i read henry kissinger the writings of moussey tongue the art of war time life encyclopedias on the occult or the time life encyclopedias on the wild west read them all cover to cover

and then i found when i was about 12 none dare call a conspiracy by gary allen and i already read all this other material so i knew it was pretty much accurate so you may notice that alex didn't really like books about world war two as much as he liked books about nazis yeah he should probably think about that more importantly he's very clear here that he read none dare call a conspiracy at age 12 which he knew was accurate because he'd already read all this other material which raises the question what other material he was a child reading all these history books he didn't actually understand he was skimming shit and then he read none dare and decided this comported with his studied world view so it must be true i would suggest this is all bullshit and the reality

is that none dare resonated with alex because he was brought up in an insane john birch society household and the book matched up with what his dad had taught him uh uh was true when he was much younger another important point to bring up here is that alex is saying that he read that book at 12 and he definitely didn't read carol quigley's tragedy and hope before that point which is why he approaches quigley's book solely through the lens that he internalized from none dare call a conspiracy he'd already consumed the john birch society propaganda prior to seeing the actual book and i strongly suspect that he's never actually even read tragedy and hope it's really long it's long we've talked about it extensively and that's longer than the amount

of time he's attempted to read it i do believe that he's read compulsively about nazis i will say this i will say this in that clip if you'll notice the only person that he's read the only author whose work he's read who has not been party to or actively committed a genocide was none dare call it a conspiracy i mean i think that gary alan was pretty in support of a partide i mean he was but he didn't have the power to do you know like kissinger did a genocide mal genocide hitler a genocide gary alan tried to maintain uh the rhodesian government's rule that's true but nobody was like let's make him an international sex symbol for no reason do you know what i'm saying yeah that's true i'll give you that much yeah that's fair so um alex like he

just read these books he got this he got this world uh expanding thing when he was younger and thankfully he had a lot of people in his life who helped him peek behind the curtains my parents we had a lot of interesting friends my mom's brother was involved in a bunch of clandestine stuff down in central south america after vietnam and he would come sometimes to visit tell them stories i'd be sitting at their table rice and soft rice i actually think that is true i think his uncle was no i don't i don't think i don't think you're wrong that's what is funny about it yeah yeah and my mom then had friends that were out from san francisco that were involved psychedelic research they would come talk about what the government was doing there heard some of those

stories mk ultra my dad had friends that were the john bursa side so there was a background noise of them about the one world government and the cashless society and they planned to break up the family and all this i mean basically i just grew up seeing a lot of stuff that was behind the scenes you could refute this clip by confronting alex with his own words or with other pieces of information that are publicly available for instance you could say that alex's dad didn't have a friend that was in the john birch society his dad had been a member himself since college and had given speeches at jbs events that was it wasn't background noise that was the operatic score of his childhood or you could bring up various versions of this stuff that he's told on

his show over the years like was his dad actually a cia dentist what about the part where his dad was the smartest boy in texas and the globalists tried to recruit him into their depopulation conspiracy when he was 18 these aren't things that alex is bringing up in this documentary because this is a forum where he's kind of wanting to be taken seriously and not sound like a guy who's just making shit up all the time yeah um because he knows that there's a chance that people who don't already like him will listen or watch it yeah it's a bad idea to just go and say you know my dad had all of these books from the john birch society and also john williams wrote the imperial march for the john birch society and i read all these science fiction books that i've sort of blurred

with those john birch society books and i just turned it all into hi line wasn't a fascist i'm going to go out on a limb and say hi line was super cool right some people would say yeah well you're not wrong so alex gets further into his life his younger life and there's there's just straight up problems with this telling where i grew up outside dallas was at that time the richest county in texas a lot of the powerful evangelicals that were on national tv lived in rockwall because they bunched their networks were based in dallas and so i would see like a famous preacher grabbing their cheesy rolls roices and stuff you know the really big houses i brought on the lake you'd see on their back porch drinking tequila snorting cocaine off prostitutes breast

and i'd be sitting over binoculars around like 12 years old watching that we would go different parties you'd see the police pull up off duty but in their uniform and come in and sell people drugs i've never really told these stories because it doesn't sound real uh but it was real alex tells that story all the fucking time oh yeah it's one of the very few stories about his younger years that he tells constantly in mainstream outlets because it allows him to present himself as somebody who is sniffing out corruption from the youngest of ages here's the thing though on his show he tells stories about these super rich people all worshiping the devil and them trying to lure him to join them in satanism by offering him sex with their daughters there was a real serious

devil worshiping problem in rockwall that alex was on the wrong side of and they wanted to recruit him desperately because satan had communicated to them that alex was going to be very important for god's plans in the future we know this from alex is telling of his youth and this raises an important question was that did alex tell the documentary crew this if he didn't then it's safe to assume that he was self-censoring because he knew that if he said that shit he would look like a lunatic but if he did say that stuff and moyer decided not to include it that means that she's censoring her own subject to protect him from appearing to be as insane as he actually is i could see it going either way but the fact that this aspect of alex's self mythology isn't addressed here is itself an

active censorship obscuring the reality that alex creates absurd fantasy stories about himself to satisfy his narcissism and amuse his audience keep them impressed with his exploits right this bullshit you have no you have no awareness of alex's story if you allow that to stand right question right right right it is it is somewhat of the central problem of our era with alex jones which is that the we can get distracted by the effect we can get distracted by the cause we can get distracted by the effect before the cause that led to the effect but the reality is that the cause before all three of those proves everyone involved is insane and we're all wasting our time with the other three i if that makes sense to you i think

it does i mean like yeah it it's it doesn't not resonate it's convoluted sure it's not great yeah so alex tells some more stories about his younger days and these also hit very familiar themes that we've heard before dallas was the kind of place where you looked at somebody wrong they jump out of their car and want to get the fight and so it was definitely extremely violent extremely violent i saw people shot some people stabbed or some people beat up in the head with shovels i saw huge car wrecks drag racing they want fire inside their cars you imagine like a james dean movie but 20 times that and so dallas was crazy i'm a rebel without 20 causes my dad's not like a super macho guy but he's old school except

you better learn to kick some ass then i started you know becoming very aggressive and fighting back so then i kind of got proud of the fact that i was fighting i got put in juvenile quite a few times i was before judges because the nature of the fight people being in the hospital people getting hurt really bad at a certain point my dad said you've got we've got to move out of this we have to get out of this and those were good experiences because it taught me not be a victim congratulations right this characterization also doesn't match various versions of alex's violent fighting years that we've heard from various sources including alex himself for one thing alex's story has always been that he uncovered a conspiracy a secret drug dealing gang within

the rockwell police department and because of that the cops threatened to kill alex if he didn't leave town this is why his dad moved them to austin according to his consistent telling of it in the past why is so different now possibly because his other story is completely absurd and no one outside of his audience would ever believe it for a second possibly because alex knows that this documentary is meant to reach an un indoctrinated audience and it would be bad for business if he scared them off with his normal bullshit allowing that to stand unquestioned reveals that moyer is not up to the job of making this documentary either through negligence or bias she's allowing alex to contradict himself and not addressing it that's bad filmmaking it's bad storytelling and because

the audience isn't made aware of this glaring credibility problem that alex has it's an act of sanitizing and presenting alex inaccurately and it's dangerous because the audience it could be susceptible to that can you imagine if in the glenn greenwald q and a glenn was like alex tell us about the time that you as a 15 year old uncovered a drug dealing ring within the police department of your hometown tell us more about that yeah and why wasn't that in the store in the document it's not in the documentary one of the greatest stories i think i've ever heard and it's it's part of your whole mythology about being a guy who's not afraid to stand up to power at a young age you were a hero among i've heard him talk about it in a way that's like that's what turned him on to the idea that

power is corrupt and all this stuff yep and now he just left rock wall because he got in a few fights yeah the fuck is going on here yeah also alex liamoyer probably should have asked alex about all the people he claims to have killed couldn't hurt to ask about how he constantly talks on air about how it was mostly black people attacking him when he was younger because he was white any of this stuff would be super relevant to presenting alex accurately because the awareness that he constantly lies about himself is very relevant to a documentary where the main source of information about alex is alex himself by not addressing his credit credibility problem in any way alex is allowed to be seen as a credible narrator which is a choice that moyer is making about how she directed

the film maybe because she wants to lie for alex or maybe because it's easier maybe she's lazy i'm surprised they didn't add the quote where alex says that no black person has ever experienced racism from white people more than he has experienced racism from black people yeah i'm surprised that didn't make it to the to the documentary that one is seems really like foundational you know any strange so anyway we got these like dissonant depictions of his younger years that basically seem like watered down versions of the stories he always tells right that are kind of meant to trick people into thinking that he does not a complete bullshit artist right right maybe you can listen to him and it's not not really is not really as insane as people say it is currently

this documentary feels like a massage for alex with a happy ending mm-hmm yeah i think that's putting it delicately and mildly it's far more than that it's filthy wow it's the first time i've been mild to you yeah it's like it's like a month at a hedonistic swingers resort resort oh do you oh do you mean uh oh my god now i'm fucking failing i'm failing you i god damn it oh no you know what you know lock god damn it bohemian grow we'll get to that later okay so alex goes to georgia because he was late yeah alex went down to georgia because he was looking for an election to steal um so when he went uh he went to georgia apparently some stuff happened that wasn't on his regular show right and one of the things that happened was he went to the olympic

ring statue and he decided to shoot a little video about it figured it all out what have i told you that hiding in plain view in downtown in lana georgia there is a giant nazi symbol that wasn't just one of the main symbols of the nazis but it was also designed hand drawn by adolf hitler hillar absolutely did not design the olympic rings they were designed in june 1914 by a french dude named barron pierre de kubernetes the reason that alex is confused is because lennie riefenstahl made a documentary about the 1936 olympics that involved going through greece and making a prop that looked like an ancient object resembling the ring symbol in 1984 robert barney a sports historian found it good work robert barney and mistook it for an actual olympic symbol not knowing

it was a nazi propaganda film prop so the uh the association with the design and the nazis is the product of one mistaken sports historian and a nazi propaganda film i'm willing to bet that alex got it from the latter even so he's kind of just making up the part about hitler designing it that's silly i mean i'm sorry but if i told you hitler and created the olympic sign would you agree also i believe that that olympic symbol is there because of the bombing at the atlanta olympics yeah and alex thought that was a false flag yeah so also not in the documentary oh that's a talk about the atlanta bomb there's so much it seems like they left out of a relatively long fucking movie too long yeah so this is my second favorite part of the documentary alex finds a guy

on the street feels like you front loaded it they might have so alex finds this guy on the street outside the olympic rings and this guy is chill as hell he seems pretty cool and alex tries to uh i don't know what point he's trying to make here good sir how you doing man all right what's going on up here hitler designed that symbol uh-huh so we were asking folks should it be torn down up for real y'all against hilton i'm against settler shit i don't hear anything turn out tell them sit down i'm against our races my love off me i hear you but now but we've taken that symbol now it's a symbol of world unity so maybe we've expropriated it's kind of like if a bad dude stole money and built a house we don't burn the house down we just take it over right so why

not just take it as our symbol okay and make it our symbol right yeah exactly right so y'all want to keep it up well i'm saying if we're going to tear down everything old in america just because some people might have not been good i'm just saying why don't we tear this down right which i don't want to do i mean look i don't like hitler but that's a pretty good symbol he's pretty good yeah it is i mean you know the vw symbol he came up with that vw he invented the first first Volkswagen first highways but that doesn't blow the highways up load the highways up damn so still make both add off hitler with with a pin and ink created this symbol so it's kind of hard to assess what alex wants to say but based on the words he's using uh i think i get it he's arguing that hitler

designed this logo but it doesn't stand for Nazism so even though it has a bad history it's now good so we shouldn't tear it down this is actually him talking about the statues of confederate generals that people wanted to take down but he's making a convoluted point so here are the problems one he doesn't think the confederacy was bad so the history of those statues isn't bad to alex two in what way is something like a confederate general statue become a symbol of something good whereas in the past it was bad i don't know how like bedford forest has now become a symbol of something good well well well uh burn sides now we've got side burns is he a confederate general no idea but i'm going for it okay i don't know if he was i don't remember ambrose burnsides

what side he was on listen i'm going for it also third problem hitler didn't design the that's really the big problem that's my favorite my favorite part of that clip is just the complete and perfect logic of the person responding to it where it's like oh hitler designed this flag sweet bad flag let's get rid of it oh we've taken it back and now it's a good thing sweet that's awesome it's a good thing let's keep it yeah oh you don't want to keep it man i'm confused figure your shit out first yeah okay yeah i'll hit 20 seconds he's like oh shit let's you want to tear it down yeah let's tear that down yeah oh wait it's good no you don't like it you also want to keep it man figure your shit out and then come back to me

yeah that guy was fun yeah i love him so volkswagen was founded by the german labor front which was a nazi organization back in 1937 the existing labor unions had been raided their leaders killed and they were taken over by nazi groups and the labor front began hitler absolutely did not design the first volkswagen cars although he may have made some suggestions as to little design features i don't care if you design the logo because you know he has that artistic past and also the original design is way different than it looks now it's notably missing the lines around it that look like a swastika put on see swastika that would look good so it's hard to say if hitler invented highways because i don't know what alex means by highway using some definitions it's a really

stupid claim that alex is making like there were highways like the ones we understand that predate nazi germany so that point doesn't stand sure i think alex is just misunderstanding that hitler was involved with the construction of the autobahn no no no hitler created the pony express that's what your miss killer invented mail cool maybe alex should have done a better job of reading all those nazi books he loved as a kid because this sounds like or maybe he should have done a worse job reading them sounds like some inaccurate either way hitler trivia he's whatever happened he did the wrong job reading them so ali alexander is here in georgia really going to take the swing of putting ali alexander in a movie purporting to be positive towards al you kind of

have to because he was a big part of alex's trip to georgia that's true for the stop the steal stuff you're right you're right so if you're going to include georgia at all it's going to be hard i'm the fool i'm the fool so here's ali well ali alexander the national founder coordinator of stop steel movement is here with all of the country together fighting we risked a critical juncture here in georgia but tell folks about what we're doing the next four days in a row at high noon so at high noon at the georgia state capital alex jones myself and other patriots are here and we are marching and we are telling the secretary of state stop don't certify oh kind of like you did with j6 yeah stop don't certify i kind of want to smash cut to affidavits so

while they're in the state house they're in georgia yeah somebody else who's along with alex and ali has an idea and that is essentially like hey we're already inside let's just not leave which is a city a an idea that has never been tried before in protest history it's a sit-in that's a form of no no they've invented it they've created this is the first time this has ever happened it's you know it's it's a peaceful non-compliance sure um here's what ali has to say oh alex they serve i'm sorry i'm not trying not to come to this they serve out of out here right yeah we're inside let's not leave we're not proud we're not we're not the left we're not going to democratize that's how we can

stop the sort of nation listen to me it's peaceful it's not a bad idea listen to me what peaceful sitting that's what we'll call here we go if the hillbillies make up all the ideas and we're going to lose the country so put aside listen to me we're going to stop the steel but first we're going to stop the certification yeah let's talk about it later it's good i'm just talking out loud with ideas man it's good brother i love it you know it's okay to have ideas everybody's fine yeah so this is fascinating for two reasons the first is that what ali is saying is that you don't get a say in what the plan is he's the brains and you hillbillies are the bodies this isn't the left there's no democratization of ideas it's a hierarchical system where ali calls the

shots and you follow that sucks and i can't believe that didn't piss this guy off and it's funny to watch alex try to smooth things over i mean you know it just doesn't get better than being like if we let the hillbilly set the rules we're going to lose the country i don't know if you know who you're leading no but that's yeah he's an elitist within that that sort of milieu he thinks he's better than all of those people he looks down on the very people that he pretends he's supporting no no no my overalls are slightly cleaner obviously i am of higher status yeah it makes perfect sense second thing it's so weird how this documentary really tries not to point out that nick fuentes is right there with alex and ali no spotlight on the holocaust denier buddy that you

brought along to georgia no shout out for him no screen time let's just pretend he's not there that's another editorial choice that moir is making because recognizing that fuentes was traveling with ali and alex is way too much for this documentary to try and explain to a non indoctrinated audience it's inconvenient to the portrait of alex he's seeking to paint unless it's just ignored the the little baby nazi isn't there this isn't journalism it's pr you're being unfair explain to me how they could fit that in in a seven thousand hour documentary there's no way yeah there's no way that you just look even avengers had to cut some stuff you know you know what you do make a good point i do because they needed to fit in important things like this of course

all right bucket list one more leg off the bucket list oh i just pissed on ted turner he's got five kids but says you shouldn't be able to have any yes i just peed on it i peed on it he peed on the georgia guide stones i'll tell you what duke phillips would not be happy with that alex uh pissed on the georgia guide stones did oh my god of course alex's urine makes things explode it's corrosive that is it that's the only thing that makes sense there's a two-year delay there is a delay but it does happen we don't have evidence that somebody else blew it up but we do have evidence that alex peed on it i believe there

was that car that they saw all right all right your point your point is fair maybe someone else just ignited exactly exactly p was an accelerometer somebody tried to smoke a cigarette a little bit too close went up he had a big night that made poor a lot of whiskey yeah a lot of whiskey so alex reads that from the side of one of the uh guide stones that this is in a foreign language and this probably isn't defensive except i mean it is oh what to whom uh what i don't actually know who he's trying to offend okay that's that's how good that's how good it is yeah you ready you're right guys

their plan is called the great reset their manual of operations is agenda 2030 a public u n plan in the name of world peace and stopping hunger that actually shuts down the world economy and will cause massive depopulation this is the most dangerous dark satanic ideology to ever be on the face of this planet and it must be opposed so here's an interesting question that the documentary filmmaker could have asked hey you're saying this agenda 2030 thing is the blueprint for how the globalists are going to kill everyone but isn't that exactly what you said for like the last 20 years about agenda 21 is it possible that the whole thing was bullshit and then in 2021 you know agenda 21 uh came around you needed a new thing to pretend was the plan to kill

everyone inquiring minds journalism all of that or i mean i guess you could just say uh you know you could let alex say all this shit unquestioned and then agenda 21 never comes up that's certainly another option yeah well i do feel like the director can get away with this mainly because the first peoples that i think should be offended by alex's impression are all star trek aliens and then we get to regular human peoples you know like there's a bunch of different alien races and star trek that would listen to that and be like this is unacceptable behavior we got to get to captain kirk we got to deal with this quick because this is fucked up yeah i don't i don't know i don't know what alex was on there about but don't not good not good not good yeah so um alex gets into

talking now about his early media days and we're about to embark on another flashback and here's some bullshit and it was very very classical liberal and by that i didn't know about was republican or democrat because there were things i liked about both parties i did things i disliked but the average real liberal like knew about health food and was anti-war and was free speech and seemed really informed and cool for a while i went and had jobs was dating a lot and you know out of high school wasn't really worried about doing media for a while i thought maybe i'll do media because i want to be on air just be able to talk then i was watching alex's tv there were like rock and roll shows and a lot of christian shows a lot of old ladies doing exercise shows it was

it was everything like we don't care what your speech is then i saw all these local conspiracy terrorists that were talking about the new world order and world government you know that's what i'll do so some people might think it's shitty for you to bring up that abortions comment there i hope they don't but i i accept that as fair but here's what i would say to that yeah um it doesn't come up alex doesn't bring it up and normally i would say yeah it's your personal business whatever no big deal right but we know from listening to alex that he's presented that as a pivotal moment in his life when he realized he needed to get his shit together and fight the globalist after his dad told him stop killing my grandkids yep so like that should be a moment that is of

impactful enough nature that it should come up in the retelling of his his life based on the details that he's giving here and it doesn't it's suspicious in its absence if you are going to argue to me that a man can tell the same story for 20 years about his origins about abortion and shit and then gets to go into a documentary and just to omit that as though it never happened and that he doesn't have to deal with it then uh we don't get to talk anymore it's weird yeah so alex wasn't a classical liberal and he he didn't have a thing where he like you know he liked the left when he was younger no he was salieri he was a bircher at best and if he had any complaints about the right wing it was that they weren't far right enough this documentary

is allowing alex to present himself this way unquestioned because it doesn't work for their purposes to treat him like an extreme right wing ideologue from early on in life it's far more attractive to present him as someone who's kind of in the middle and liked all sorts of political ideas but he was driven towards the right by the extreme fanatics on the left who are no longer free speech they don't like health food above the left right paradigm yeah this is a decision that moyer is making because she wants to make her subject more attractive to a non-exclusively extreme right wing audience it's deception by omission and allowing alex to present things unchallenged yeah and i mean look here's here's the bottom line too she has every right to do that

you know if you want to make a documentary that is a puff piece nonsense bullshit indoctrination whitewashing and sanitization of alex jones right by all means go ahead but i'm not going to put up with it for a fucking second right that's fine right he can do this but to pretend that this is some kind of a like middle of the road i'm just letting him tell his story thing right is nonsense right now i agree with you but i also stipulate that she can do this in the world that we live in now and not one that is good and while we don't need to argue about what the limits of good or bad are on speech or etc i think we can both agree that this is bad so the end right yeah yeah yeah you're gonna see it you see here another editorial choice that i think is

really glaring and that is the swelling music accompanying alex's decision to get into covering conspiracy theories in the new world order yeah you can hear the feeling that's intended to be perlaid there the clouds are parting and alex sees his path that's not something that's being conveyed by alex's words it's being stressed by the musical choices and directorial decisions that moyer is making because that's how she wants the audience to see alex there is a moment in a new hope that i hope every single human being on this planet remembers where luke sky worker is on tatooine and he looks at the two sun setting and the swelling john williams music plays to a point that i if you're not inspired by it go fuck yourself that is what she's trying

to do here alex is not luke skywalker also based on your misspeaking i just thought of a socialist star wars character luke sky worker so fair enough somebody who else was a bit of a worker comes in now nice he's a former friend of alex's i guess they're still friends but he goes way back yeah we are descendants from davie crocket this is myself and my wife and if you go all the way over my fourth great grandfather was nathan crocket which is the brother of davie crocket and my fifth great grandfather was is my dad davie crocket man a lot of davie crocket oh so this is mike hansen he's one of the very few non-current employers employees who's allowed to speak in this documentary he was alex's original

cameraman way back and was along for their fake infiltration of bohemian grove there's a reason he's included as a talking head in this film and other folks aren't and that's because alex is still very beloved to mike hansen he loves alex right he has a huge room full of pictures of alex and archives of all their stuff including these shirt and shoes that he wore when they went into the grove full disclosure i want those tapes that he has but the difference is that i want to create an archive of alex's career that can be used by researchers to deconstruct alex's body of work mike has a giant shrine it's creepy yeah yeah no in uh in a uh uh bill and ted situation you are george carlin coming back from a perfect society being like okay if i get this shit

and take it back to the future then we will have a successful world yes so mike is in this film because he's a voice that can say that alex is not only great now he's always been great and i would know because i was there including this voice and not other voices of people who were there and are now critical of alex is an editorial choice on moyer's part she doesn't speak to other people who were there when they went to the grove like john ronston or alex's ex-wife who didn't go into the grove with them but was along for the trip the selection of voices that are allowed in this film is curated to create a particular image of alex and people who are actually critical of him and know him would threaten that image so they don't exist right and that is her choice yep so we get

some clips of alex from early early on in his life yeah um and uh this one is weird i don't know this is a weird thing to keep in yeah that's alex jones baby all right we're talking about some serious issues today we're talking about how they got us divided it should not be front page news that fuzzy zeller says something racist even though he's an old fat racist who cares about old fat races says something about an awesome man asian african-american who's worth probably a hundred million dollars who cares about words we're americans we're all together in this boat yeah i mean it's it's strange to see you know or some of this earliest video of alex he's minimizing racism hey hey who among us cannot go back in time 20 years and say to themselves that yes this is a

country divided and it should be okay to be racist towards tiger woods who among us right this is years before obama allowed us to be racist towards the president it's so it's so weird to look like oh 1997 what was alex doing saying racism is not a problem present day what's alex doing and and again the country is divided 1997 i don't know if anybody's ever heard that sure currently no yeah so here's another clip of alex and this is this is on location he took a trip we're here at the alford p murrow building in oklahoma city the site of the april 19th 1995 bombing and there's a lot of questions a lot of unanswered questions like why has the media ignored two seismograph reports from the university of oklahoma and the u.s. geological survey that show two distinct explosion

patterns why have they ignored the first preliminary reports of two explosions by people on the ground as witnesses and i am not sitting here claiming to have the answers but i know this they don't want you to know something they're keeping something from you they've done it a to z from intimidation of witnesses to covering up evidence to destroying this crime scene this is tyranny at work one way or another either they're exploiting this terrible tragedy and our children that died or they were actively engaged in it yes the federal government this clip is just alex being alex man he's got a conclusion and he's going to accept whatever half cooked pieces of information he can find to justify it we talked about how the two explosions and seismograph thing is bullshit

back on an episode about bill cooper so i'm not going to get into it here but look at what alex is doing he's got an inaccurate piece of information he doesn't fully understand and he's using that lack of knowledge on his part to insist there must be a conspiracy because of this incorrect information there are two possibilities either the government did this or they're covering up who did because they let it happen there isn't a third possibility to him that he never considers it and that's almost always the correct one that said he doesn't know what he's talking about and he's wrong yeah this is the same shit with his sandy hook stuff all of it was based on incorrect information that he decided to accept is true so he could claim that there were anomalies with the shooting that

would justify him calling it a false flag so he could pretend that the government was using mass shootings to push gun control he's kind of a one-trick pony and that one trick is being wrong yeah having flimsy justifications to rationalize being wrong yeah man you're right sometimes sometimes it would be nice if i had something insightful or funny to say but sometimes it's just like yeah let's hear the truth happen how about that what a weird thing to have late yeah but like you know i think that on one level in more competent hands in a actually well put together documentary you could have stuff like this and you could juxtapose it with stuff about sandy hook yeah and you could make the point even without grilling alex too hard that this is the

same shit that he does all the time absolutely that documentary this one does not do this that is not that documentary yeah the behavior that he's displaying in oklahoma city is looked at as good yeah it's it's fine i mean a softball interview proves alex as a monster it is only a t-ball documentary that allows alex to exist the way he does mm-hmm yep i oh i i was like what's t-ball what's a t-ball documentary that took me a second oh okay but it's right now that you get it it's super good right yeah yeah the way it is late the way you were saying it made sense to me i got the right you were trying to write what's a t-ball right right right i get it i understand so anyway mike hanson uh had some words about alex it wasn't very popular back then you were out there as a

conspiracy theorist but alex made it more popular because he was well spoken and very professional he was kind of like the dan rather the conspiracy theory world you can follow people around you can harass people you can back up your banks your buddies but a revolution of peaceful information's coming and when it comes time you people are going to be brought to punishment so weird how this documentary doesn't even mention the existence of bill cooper it's nuts that they're just kind of pretending that alex didn't completely idolize him and pretending that he wasn't a giant figure in the anti-government conspiracy world like bill was already the conspiracy dan rather yep alex is a big deal that's fair enough but it's a little much to pretend that he was this much of a trail

blazer recognizing that bill cooper existed hurts the ability to create the image that this film wants to paint and that is that alex entirely went his own way and created this this whole thing out of his desire to tell truth in alex's war right no right right he's following in bill cooper's wake yeah yeah no bullshit it is uh yeah i mean they didn't bring up father coughlin they didn't say that lord ha ha yeah they didn't say that like wolf blitzer was the dan rather of not being edward r morrow they didn't say all of those things there's no keith oberman involved so there's one one thing that alex always talks about whenever people say that he's a racist and that is like i bullhorned the clan right right right and so we get some

video of that and i think the context of it is actually really interesting when we were rebuilding it the cucklicks clan come down to wake and alex and i and a bunch of other people went over bullhorned them yeah so alex was bullhorning the clan but it was really more about being defensive about wake up yeah i don't see any disagreement with the clan so much as like a i want more attention than the clan and i have baselessly decided that you're all feds yeah but like it really that context is actually fairly important that yeah he bullhorned the clan when they came to wake up when he was trying to be the guy who was rebuilding the church he's not bullhorning the clan no other times no he's bullhorning anyone who takes attention from him

right not i mean and if the clan is the people who take the attention that's fine anybody who might attract a right wing patriot audience that could steal yes yes anybody who could be in what you might call a power struggle right right right no no totally he must deferential to tecker because i could take tuckers offense audience uh fuck the clan because they're trying to take mine yes so i would get alex in the present day here talking a little bit and this is just so stupid the general public are like babies inside the womb they don't even know what's going on in the outside world they're like inside their mother they have no idea what's going on and meanwhile there's these

mad scientists trying to steal the future from them before they're even born that's what it feels like so i'm outside i got outside the womb and i'm not totally blind and i'm powerless to stop them even though i can tell people what's coming next it doesn't even matter the people just still think they can't deal with the magnitude of this and i understand yeah and these people they put hand puppets shadow puppets on the womb so they that's how it works just ripping off the allegory of the womb yep uh so that's cool also a little condescending yeah you know but it's i'm we're all proud of him for having kind of almost learned a thing about the past that maybe he can relate a little bit one of the most basic philosophical hey let's things that you learn in you know maybe

your first class of if you're in the womb you don't expect to know the first principles of philosophy fine fair enough that is true so we there's more of the past and one of the things is about you know they talk about alex going to bohemian grove alex is a syndicated talk show host in austin texas he broadcasts from his bedroom down an isdn line to eight million listeners alex believes that the shadowy elite at bohemian grove are the puppet masters who control the world's governments banks the media and the united nations so the clip of john ronson from the secret rulers of the world is played yeah not talking to him himself right there is a video that shows like b-roll the shows of his interview on c-span where he was talking about how alex lied about

what happened to bohemian grove they don't play that clip they don't play the audio of it at all right there's no dissenting opinion everything is just reinforcing alex's perception even if there are things that are very clear indications that you should have access to the information that makes you responsible for pushing back on this a little bit right it's fun that the juxtaposition of john and alex makes you think that the british won 1776 but then pierce morgan comes in later and well and then with the british really got their ass kicked we have all kinds of questions yeah it's it's a war it's not a battle so now we get to 2001 hello ladies and gentlemen i'm so glad that you could join us today for this wednesday july 25th 2001 broadcast

tyranny is enveloping the globe and the united states is shining jewel the globalist want to bring down and they will use terrorism as the pretext to get it done so this is his prediction of 9 11 yes show yes and this documentary is pretending that bill cooper doesn't exist so there's no reason to explain that alex just stole this prediction from bill right this whole section of the film is a really long greatest hits of alex's career that's meant to paint him as a true renegade going against popular opinion to tell the truth about these tragic events it covers things like okc wakeo and 9 11 but it's just surface level shit like alex saying this thing is a false flag and then alex in the present day will say boy that sure was a false flag it's meaningless

it doesn't talk at all about the details of stuff like how alex thought the eu did 9 11 then we have bohemian grove in there but you don't really have any mention of ronson going on c span and discussing how alex admitted to him that they he was lying to his audience about everything and even worse this documentary just ignores so much of alex's career that doesn't fit its mold like what about y2k or even larger what about the boston bombing that was a giant part of his career and he got it completely wrong that was an event where he managed to send dan badandi to disrupt a press conference that the authorities were holding to inform the public about the situation while the bombers were still unknown and on the loose the public was living

in fear and badandi was just yelling info wars dot com at the police who were trying to calm the public you can make an argument that his coverage of the boston bombing is in like the top five points of his career that bear mentioning and its omission here is glaring and the reason is because it doesn't fit yeah you don't really get to hero to play that for a hero yeah the selection of what to cover and what not to cover is an editorial choice that moyer is making because these things are at the building blocks of alex's mythology whereas things like him being an idiot and gleefully exploiting a terrorized city isn't necessarily good optics sandy hook will come up because it has to yeah but it's presented as more or less the exception that proves the rule

and even more poorly presented and we'll go to that later yeah it's like the one blemish on is otherwise spotless record you know the thing that proves alex actually is human despite all this evidence to the contrary yeah the japanese concept of the flaw that makes something perfect yes every mandala yes of course of course and that is off naturally so there's a lot you know there's these things from the past all of these like oklahoma city uh wake out 9 11 and some of it is mildly interesting but not really some of it is stuff that we've gone over ad nauseam so what's the point of readdressing it we are in we are in an interesting and unique situation where once again no one has seen this uh or the people who haven't seen this or who are unfamiliar with alex have

no idea what's going on and most of our listeners would be incredibly bored by us telling the regular people insane information yeah just i mean like basically the um the points of these things from the past are presenting alex's activities surrounding these topics in the most generous yeah heroic life so totally now we get back to the present and what do you know alex is a fucking hero yeah much of the discussion of the past is framed as things alex did uh being unpopular he got fired for covering wake up according to the stories here sure he lost all these stations for covering 9 11

as a false flag right he was punished for telling the truth but he kept soldiering forward it's important to understand that framing as a critical piece of this documentary's editing choices because when you now flash uh back to the fall of 2020 and alex is at these stop the steel rallies he's having everyone yell that they love him and all this which is meant to be experienced in contrast with how he was treated in the past right this is visually telling the audience that alex was right all along and though he suffered hardships at the end of that road the people realized he was right this is bullshit and it's not the impression you would get if this tour through alex's career treated his career accurately and not like an embarrassing puff piece if you

saw him fumbling around and saying horrible racist shit or insinuating for months that the bath party were being reinstalled in iraq or arguing that the eu did 9 11 or doing insane shit about obama's birth certificate or is he bola bullshit or pizza gate or slandering the head of chobani or how he thought that obama was a secret muslim trying to use fema to turn the us into a caliphate under sharia law or all the times he insisted that ron paul was gonna win the gop primary then you wouldn't see that smash cut to the present day the same way if you understood the clearer picture of his career you might see the people yelling out that they love him as pitiable people who've been sucked in by a con man but because this documentary only seems to

care about presenting alex as a really solid information guy you see the people flocking to him and it's meant to look like they finally come around and recognize that alex is great this is a choice made by the editing that is being done by moyer yeah there's a reason that the discussion of sandy hook is separated from all of this past stuff yeah because that's not supposed to be seen as actually part of his career no no no absolutely not that was that was a blip that was a blip at worst it was a blip right listen okay do you remember how that one time the united states was running these drills right and they didn't notify russia of it and these drills would be very similar to ones that you would do if you were launching a nuclear attack

and russia because they didn't know that the united states was about to or was not going to launch a nuclear attack and only knew that these drills were happening decided that what they needed to do was launch an actual real nuclear attack and it was only because of the efforts of one heroic man that they did not shoot those fucking missiles right do you remember that blip yeah it's just a blip it's a blip nobody even remembers it no it's not that important no so alex like this presentation of him sucks it stinks um and it would not really be possible to achieve without very intentional choices being made yeah absolutely and how this information is being presented um no i mean what how how how is it that we have trouble sleeping at night dan how is

it that both of us struggle to sleep caffeine alcohol on your part um mental imbalance sure i don't know bad you name it you name it yeah you name it so we we're now here in the fall of 2020 and uh mike flinn is giving a speech and this is that speech where trump flew over in a helicopter yes yeah and this moment is fucked up yeah i mean when you've been raked over the calls by the media like i've been raked over the calls by the media like my mom said sticks and stones can break my bones but names will never hurt me and and and and i will tell you and i've said this before the media the media is doing an incredible disservice to this country oh

oh i'm sorry that was a different close i was so close oh the visuals of this are terrifying people are looking up at the skies trump flies over in the helicopter there's a shot of michael indell looking up like he's gonna cry there's this beautiful operatic music indicating an almost religious experience that people are having looking up to the heavens moyer chose to play that music underneath this video which gives it a very particular tone essentially that there's a giant cult of people who view trump as their savior but this documentary doesn't give you any reason to think that's a bad thing the subject of this

film is the biggest trump supporter in the world who's cried on air about how you'd die for trump there's no voice in this film that's critical of trump so the music doesn't really come off as heightening or highlighting something that is being commented on it kind of just fits and the film is treating like that it's that's okay yeah this is appropriate i found that really disturbing i mean the scene itself is disturbing and then the directorial choices that are made here are just presented in a way that i find unnerving yeah yeah yeah um i remember watching apocalypse now i hate that i'm making so many movie references but we are talking about well we haven't we also haven't heard alex make many movie references so it's kind of it's been a while low but i mean we are we are

discussing a movie and we are discussing a person who's making a movie yeah and a person who's making a movie like you would make a hollywood movie and so if i was discussing a scene in apocalypse now where someone were to say i love the smell of uh napalm in the morning and i were to play the benny hill theme song or it might sound different or that's our that's our theme song for the week apparently the only thing that's getting me through it really feels like it really just been oh it's been a long week it also hasn't been a week yeah that's fair so alex is at this rally where everyone is cultically looking up at the sky at trump flying over and there's a moment that happens that i found really disturbing it's a woman who's trying to climb over a fence to get a picture

with alex oh that's great yeah that clip suffers from the same problem as the last one inside this film there's no reason to think it's weird for someone to be comparing alex to john the baptist this film is essentially justifying that conclusion by choosing uh to show what it shows a woman climbing over a fence to take a selfie with alex and compare him to john the baptist should be a shocking image and it should be troubling but in the context of this documentary if you accept the story as moyer is telling it why wouldn't you think that alex is john the baptist he's basically been right his entire

career and persecuted for telling the truth about what was coming because that truth threatened the power structure this documentary allows alex to frame himself so unquestioningly that it makes sense that this woman views alex this way honestly it would almost be weirder if she didn't right that's fucked up so when we um we've now taken in a bit of alex as hero in the present vindicated for all the past uh all the past turmoil and troubles and now we jump back to the past right and we get we we pick up here um where alex is discussing uh i think he showed up at like um a convention uh and just talking about how like none of these candidates are good okay like basically at that he's totally bombing the news okay well we're gonna leave it at that thanks very much

we'll be back good morning america regarding a few minutes and susan of course the floor is empty but they're here unless we we be accused i'm not hearing all voices we cut you off a moment ago this is alex jones from austin texas a radio talk show yes sir with info wars dot com both candidates are cousins they're skull and bones they're bringing in big government and tyranny the evidence is clear the military industrial complex was intimately involved in 9 11 the commission is a complete fraud we're losing our freedoms both parties are controlled and if we don't wake up and stand up and speak out this country's going to be destroyed giving up liberty only gives us tyranny it does not give us security and i hope that everybody out there

wakes up to this and realizes that america is america because we have the bill of rights and constitution everybody should investigate 9 11 and find out who's really behind it it's bushes and the new world order's right stag and his cousin kerry isn't gonna save you either thank you prismplanet.com alex jones they always say the same thing you want to be on this crusade that's going nowhere or do you want to be a star fox news offered me multiple jobs has been moved to manhattan and we're looking for somebody that's the next rush wind bulb and we'll have editorial control you'll get multiple book deals a year you'll have a national tv show and uh we just want to do this and then when i refuse fox news

right before glenn beck was picked and appeared they would have articles saying jones wants to be on fox news but fox news doesn't want him so now we see flashing back to the past again but it's important to understand what track we're on this is the track that leads to him supporting trump which has to be contextualized by pointing out alex's renegade individuality throughout his political career here he is talking about how bush and kerry both suck you know he doesn't want to be a part of fox news they conveniently ignore his constant support for ron paul's candidacies because why provide context when you can just pretend that trump was alex's first love this is the section where sandy hook will come up because this documentary wants alex's coverage

of sandy hook to be understood in a very specific way which we'll discuss when we get there also if alex had ever taken one of those job offers at fox he would have lasted about as long as michael savage did at msnbc yeah he would have been shitcanned so fast he can't play ball yeah i mean it's here if you know you want to say with with the 20th of 20 hindsight that he knew what was happening but he didn't what was happening is that he spoke in short sentences confidently loudly and quickly and nobody knew at that time that that's all you needed to do to dominate the entire american consciousness i would argue that sometimes it was also run on sentences well you are not wrong that give the appearance of like an overabundance right right information

that you're delivering i mean it's really just killing time until you figure out what the next sentence here's what i'll say here's what i'll say and i want to try and describe it this way like back then if you were to take his words you could put it into like guitar tablature and you would have a clearer idea of why people enjoyed it then you would if you listen to his words do you know what i'm saying yeah like it's music to people yeah it might be more rhythmic yes than exactly so it's like bass tabs instead of guitar tabs i mean it's hard not to look at it and say that there is a definite call and response uh history to it you know like this is the history of baptist preaching i mean it goes back you know he's so effective at getting chance go of course

of course so at this point alex has rejected these deals from uh from fox news he doesn't want to support bush or carry absolutely not he's a rogue just like us not advertising for mattresses he's out in the wild no one he's no one's person right but he's also in waking life and so here's a little bit of him in waking life it's going to be the age of humankind standing up for something pure and something right what a bunch of garbage liberal democrat it's all there to control you two sides of the same coin we're going to get fired up about the real things the things that matter creativity and the dynamic human spirit that refuses to submit i didn't really care about hollywood my goal wasn't to be in movies my goal wasn't to be embraced

by all that so i mean like no mention of star lord he's so close yeah he was supposed to get he would have gotten paid more than roland guardians of the more than chris pratt how does that not come out and paid more than chris pratt yeah so all of this is just meant to be like this rejection of of the the mainstream or whatever there's a world where alex shows up in jurassic world like hey listen raptors hey blue you and i are friends now come on now blue raptors i'm your buddy blue come on i don't remember the other raptor's name why would you neither of us saw the movie i did really the first one oh no i started oh okay i saw the first of the new ones oh i haven't seen any i was curious fair enough it was fine so um alex doesn't like hollywood yeah

he hates the west coast sure cool charlie sheen was the only guy that's great he's seen in public come here talk to me but i want to some parties and stuff with some of the biggest hollywood stars i laughed this feels creepy it feels empty i've never felt this week there was a feeling like a big spider sucking my soul torture secret arrest america coming into a police state if there is a satan and it's it's truly on this planet it resides on the west coast in between silicon valley in los angeles uh that's the most evil place in the world i've been he might have just been jet lagged um and then also like he shouldn't be saying if there's a devil he talks about the devil all the fucking time i mean if there's a devil should never come near alex's mouth yeah pretty stupid

it breaks my heart because that's fundamental to his existence yeah not on this documentary though well that's fair that is fair yeah you know it's almost like suspicious in its absence from this documentary is alex explaining that all of his enemies are literally controlled by the christian devil it does feel like if your fundamental issue with the globalists is that they are controlled by the literal christian devil that should also be the centerpiece of your documentary does that seem i feel like i'm not being crazy no no you're totally right it just makes it make sense there's shockingly little in terms of no devil is the cause of all of my problems no certainly not that but there's also very little of his religious fundamentalism oh do you mean the thing that's most central

to his coverage and topics there's no footage of him uh praying on air none yeah weird you know the thing that he doesn't do yeah yeah so anyway the liberals they i forgot it was our fault they loved alex beckon the bush days correct then they didn't like oh no i think it's fair to say that the liberals liked me or also thought it was kind of a joke that thing you hear in the background that belly of the beast they played that video of him and rogan running around in that bush mask got you so that was what that was not a street fighter video new gotcha and so yeah it was one like oh yeah that's just a crazy guy in austin all they saw was i was against bush and then obama came in and go yeah but you're attacking obama now so then at the end there is the obama uh joker thing that

is that that classic video really thought that one was the street fighter video no well i mean i was in blanca no no it's a dlc alex as obama joker is uh that's available in street fighter 11 i think well done so um yeah so alex is continuing this narrative of persecution sure and sticking to his guns and having like a principle yeah like i was the same liberals loved me because they thought i hated george bush but i also hated obama and then they stopped liking me again i was punished the left right for my integrity above it right and so you have this path that is being walked and they flash a clip up here of alex talking about the operation lockstep document oh no back in 2010 no yeah he was not he was do you know he wasn't he was you and i both know he wasn't

no i do know that he was okay i mean i'm not even worthy to be bringing you information this powerful and i hope that you pay attention to what we cover here minute by minute because i've had chills uh since last night uh this just confirms everything else we've already researched yeah so he's covering the document that is now known as operation lockstep right it wasn't known as that in 2010 right but here's the thing the video that's used in the documentary doesn't come from the original show that alex did the graphics that it uses are similar to those in this little sizzle video that alex put together on his website in the alex jones prediction section that's meant to show that alex jones is right about everything don't do this that's not great

to imagine that instead of using primary sourcing this documentary might rely on a propaganda video made by info wars designed specifically to pretend that alex predicted covet over a decade ago i probably wouldn't do that i would i i don't i don't know i i would just use the raw video of alex from 2010 because it's available obviously okay i'm gonna tell you this uh we all watched it on stream mm but there was a point at which the defense's lawyer uh argued that the plaintiffs making them look dumb mm was in fact a sanction by the court wow right now the plaintiff's attorney it's an interesting angle to the judge and the judge said back the only person who's making you look dumb as you yeah the only person who can make you look dumb is uh you got you have your choice

it feels like we're here mm does that make yeah yeah yeah the only person who can make this documentary as bad as it is is the person who made this documentary you got it and i have some choice words oh boy two hours worth of oh god so alex is you know he's talking he says some other bullshit in the year 2023 covet 22 has been released and no one's allowed to go outside and tens of millions are dead who were shot and killed for leaving their houses they're going zero to a trillion miles an hour we went into warp we're in warp right now trillion miles an hour is not possible because you were wondering and that's where my study of history and uh religions and science ends because whatever it is they're tuned into is beyond my knowledge that's bullshit

alex is very frequently talked about our god is giving him visions of everything that's gonna happen and that he's a psychic i'm gonna guess that he didn't say that because he doesn't want people who don't already like him to know that he's that nuts also this is a more recent thing but it's still part of this descent into the past based on him predicting covid back in 2010 right we're still on that track of alex being a renegade who has no team who the liberals liked because he was criticizing bush and then they stopped liking him when he attacked obama that's the main theme of this section that we're in or the river that we're in as alex would uh would put it i i am frustrated by the general vibe i'm getting that this documentary is meant entirely to rehab alex's

previous five years of being a far right nut job into returning to some sort of pre obama era above the left right paradigm paradigm version of himself is that what i'm hearing well i mean i think that's probably one of the goals they would like to explore yeah it seems like that i think whatever positive interpretation that becomes of alex after this is what they're going yeah you're right that would be it's offensive for me to ascribe to them intent because that would suggest competence on some level and alex just said he doesn't know what the future i mean really he doesn't so maybe the left right paradigm is good in the future the future is holding him broke is what it is look he just he has simple wants he just wants to be good so his soul can

go to heaven that's all all right i'm so past the politics and all the names and all the stuff isn't matter anymore it's guilty because i've not raised my kids perfectly and i'm like really freaked out by all this and just trying to uh have a relationship with god so that my spirit gets out of this you want to die i mean i really that's all i think about now cheating on my way with god and i want to get out of this now and god says i'm allowed to so so that's it it's bad though it's going to get real bad like you realize that close is not going to be here soon i told my son three years ago i said you're getting on high school a couple years there's no going to college for you son it's all

going to be shut down it's all going to be over you see son everything's over there's no going to college and that's why i spent your education fund on taking a trip to california i think evil is placed on earth so i could do mushrooms with mike tyson you what the fuck are you talking about asshole the fuck out of here with this overly dramatic nonsense look look he tried to smoke his son because he thought his son was a toad after smoking toad this happens he was just licking his son this is no and as we have found out that's just not how you get high off of toad no it's not safe nor alex's son it's not safe so um you know we're we're trudging through this past of alex's uh sort of political uh rebelliousness this is your life and so we get now to the point

where he uh yells at pierce morgan pierce don't try what your ancestors did before why don't you come to america i'll take you out shooting you can become an american and join the republic hitler took the guns stalling took the guns mal took the guns that el castro took the guns you go shaw this took the guns and i'm here to tell you 1776 we'll commence again if you try to take our firearms we will not relinquish them do you understand suspicious in its absence from this is the uh subsequent uh time when alex showed up it appears morgan evaded begged him to come back on the show and pierce was not interested in talking to him man i bet there's no recording of that and there's no way to hear any evidence that i wish i wish that i had the time to go through all the

archives because uh it's been on our show yeah it's very very sad you would have to listen to our show yeah or um his i think i think he played it on his show that would make sense but i wouldn't ask anyone ever to do that that's fair yeah so now from there we jump to trump trump jump um and look the trump just latched on to what alex was doing of course so real quick obviously the point of this is going to be that he was yelling hillary for prison and then trump took that and his locker up yes but alex has said that he stole hillary for prison from somebody's like bumper sticker that he saw sure and so that person is actually responsible no no no you generate an idea if you steal it from somebody who's anonymous because they

can't argue against you that's how it works that's a great point yeah that's coming by hillary for prison there it is folks the hillary for prison banner trump tapped into the same populist anger the same populist concern that i've been tapped into the whole takeover failed didn't it and now who gets to talk to the president who gets to talk to supreme court justices alex jones alex jones he was a nice guy actually you like him that's when the media took the gloves off and went from twisting stuff sometimes more playful like i was a joke to like every newspaper runs an ap article every newspaper runs a new york times article by every paper running thousands so in case it's not explicit enough here is rob do laying out that

alex is responsible for trump being president here we go alex jones made trump whether anybody wants to believe that or not the only reason that man is in office is because of alex jones the spirit of america can you feel it rising trump feels it he knows it he loves it he loves it so uh here is where things i would say become entirely unacceptable yeah so alex is talking about how uh you know he basically was what trump uh was a vibe and off of right and trump liked him trump came on his show right hillary started to get mad at him and here's what happened trumps real crime was trying to actually be the president and coming in and not letting special interest run things and that enraged the permanent bureaucracy that we know of as the deep state

the people are so awake i mean i'm not kidding every second person i walk by is illicit when they saw that they're like oh he's just not the crazy guy on the internet now we have to go back and see oh where did he fuck up that we could go get him at now we gotta destroy alex jones man i'm really upset i mean i'm gonna be honest with you i'm totally freaked out and i told you this last week before the shooting i just love my children so much and i love my children so much and their innocence i love other people's children this is no exaggeration the last way that any self-respecting filmmaker would cover this subject matter sandy hook is not coming up as

an instance of something really really bad that alex didn't his career it's being presented as something that people are only mad about because they needed an excuse to attack him because he supported trump this is a choice that alex moyer is making as a filmmaker she didn't have to include the sandy hook outrage as merely the result of people needing to justify hating alex jones alex his sandy hook coverage isn't even mentioned chronologically because in the context of this documentary the important thing isn't his coverage it's the way people got unfairly mad about it because he liked trump there's no counterbalance to this depiction at all this is an unchallenged position in the film which is editorially supported by the way that moyer has edited this

documentary if she thought that alex's claim was at all dubious she could reach out to one of the sandy hook parents to discuss how they were trying to get alex to stop this shit long before he cared about trump or if he she wanted to give the impression that she disputed his claim she didn't have to structure and edit the film to comport with alex's narrative again much like with the john the baptist thing if you believe what this documentary is presenting you have no reason to not believe that people are only mad about sandy hook because alex supported trump the story as it's told leads you to no other conclusion and that is a choice that is a choice that's being made uh in the creation of this documentary that it's unacceptable um and to

recognize that this is intentionally being released during the sandy hook trial makes this outrageously offensive yeah this is unacceptable yeah alex moyer uh i don't know what the fuck you think you're doing but this is oh this is tragic i i'm causing ptsd i mean is that what you want to say i mean part of part of the problem is one one you said everything that needs to be said about that that is that is it and anybody who tries to counter or even add anything to that is wrong yeah i mean there's a reason that the discussion of sandy hook as the one thing that alex fucked up isn't included in the timeline of his career and all these greatest hits yeah it's because it's a prop in order to justify why people are so angry at him it's because he likes

trump and they just they picked through his career to find something they could be mad about yeah and fuck that that's like i understand that this is an argument that's going to be made that it's like i'm just presenting him the way he is you make your own judgments but that's bullshit there is a judgment that you as a filmmaker are making by presenting this information that way yeah that is not an unbiased oh this is who he is this is how it is no fuck that noise yeah it's still fine to make this documentary i'm not saying you should be silenced or like you shouldn't be allowed to make this documentary or anything like this i mean to find silenced and then we'll talk but you continue you can scream over it if you want that's a form of silence see there we go using your free

speech yeah there we go but i like i don't think i don't think that like you shouldn't be allowed to do this but you also should recognize that what you're doing at core is malicious it is unacceptable and i can't wait to see what other bullshit she's going to do in her career yeah this is the kind of documentary that if january 6th had gone the other way would be looked at by history as a let any reef and shells document yeah the same way we would look at nazi documentaries yeah 100 with the people in 20 years would look back on that like holy shit can't believe it but january 6th didn't go that way and so we have a couple years until we look at it that way i mean when you bring up january 6th it does pull back a little bit on terms of the view if and i'll

mean that clip of alex jones on the view uh no that one that one is very narrow yeah and direct no i'll try and i'll try and keep this short but by bringing up january 6th that does require you to kind of pull back from the sandy hook situation he's absolutely a monster and then you pull back and it's further than that you know like the i by no means am i minimizing what he's done to the families of sure but also overthrowing in a night an entire country that's also pretty big sure you know and and to a certain extent whenever the point is made that trump wouldn't be president without alex which is debatable but there is something no no no and and and here's what i'm going to say about that yeah when we talk about nuance one way to view that is by math just very

simple and the fact that we are very capable of talking about nuance but when we talk about it we're not able to really get to the fact that if alex is 20 percent responsible for trump becoming president then he is responsible for trump becoming president because of the margins without that 20 percent yeah yeah so that we're not able to really deal with right now and we're not and even to make your point further like there's no way that we can create a counterfactual reality where alex's earlier career didn't exist and the parts of it that involved the tea party of course and he helped start the oath keepers right and all of these things like the ripple effects of these things from further back in his career and how many of those had an indirect effect in getting trump elected

yeah and so like there is no way to quantify that um so i think it is kind of fair to say like in whatever sense right alex could be seen as somebody who helped push it over the hill at very i mean you're you're absolutely right the problem with the word nuance is that we all understand what it means but if you try and quantify it you're fucked mm-hmm yeah yeah so i mean but the larger point is this documentary sucks 100 percent i'm sorry for i wasn't trying to like tangentially no no you're fine you're fine over you know what i'm saying but yeah alex is talking here a little bit about sandy hook and he says something not good i am not the sandy hook man sanny hook man sanny hook man sanny hook man big events when they first happen

the internet was questioning and many anomalies of sandy hook some of which turned out to not be real anomalies some of which were still unsolved anomalies which ones good question which ones alex we'll find out in trial tomorrow right no no we won't yeah also in this documentary you're saying that some reasons that you question sandy hook were legitimate i mean what what anomalies which ones dumb dumb unfortunately daria said today some reasons that they question sandy hook were a good idea yeah i guess that's bad move i guess that's their position good luck stinks good luck so they play some clips from the depositions and i will say they don't play the ones that are meaningful but mark and bill both make out appearance in this documentary for them as the

people grilling alex and right right right rob do oh they're the villains right there is no mention of the fact that this deposition that they play of rob do's is the one where he's there as a corporate representative it doesn't know what that means no clue there is no mention of any of the discovery issues or any of the bad behavior that alex has carried down in court the abusive practices these clips i believe are used to make it look like the lawyers are bullying alex can i say one thing before you play this clip can i say one thing yes daria was asked today why did rob do leave the company and what she did not say was what i think we all secretly believe is because he would never become the corporate representative for info wars again under oath and that is why daria is sitting

in that stand right oh i thought the reason was because he's tied up in a bunker sure that could hiding him that could be yeah there is also another possibility yeah he's been dead for a month that works he's in a freezer yeah i i like i was watching that and i think her answer was he decided to move on yeah exactly from this mortal from this exact moment that i am existing in yeah no one wants that no so anyway here's some clips mistake or not mistake anderson cooper was in front of a blue screen the only reason i would say it's not a hundred percent because somebody asked him if he was there and he denied being at the at the funeral you know that's not true so no there's video of it there's video of a guy asking him during a taping of a show he said hey were you at the

the funeral and he goes no i wasn't right he wasn't at and inside the funeral recently your lawyer said in a legal document there is no dispute that the sandy hook tragedy was real with tragic loss of life you stand by that that's what you admit is true now yes okay so there's just like the appearance of them badgering him and like it's it it creates the appearance of like alex is a victim in this whole thing there's no recognition of the fact that it is these parents who are suing him there's no recognition of what they've gone through it is an entirely one-sided presentation of his sandy hook legal troubles which again are presented as only the result of people trying to find something to be mad at him about because he sports drop yeah

this is stupid i've watched far too many true crime documentaries to hear a clip of somebody saying no i saw that in a video and if they don't follow that up with the video then you didn't see it in that video you probably didn't yeah it's tough to uh and a good true crime documentary immediately shows that video proof yep yeah it's very simple yeah if rob do had this video if you think well just play it you think oh boy it seems like that's what the the plaintiffs are doing so alex is a baby and one of the things that he likes to do is whenever people are like hey man you did some really fucked up stuff about sandy hook and your behavior was abhorrent and uh you probably you know owe these people some money for defamation right what have you and set yourself

on fire like a buddhist monk in vietnam well see that's what he thinks people are asking him to do he's well that's what i'm asking maybe i should be executed for questioning things i'm fine with that i'm not going to say you should be but i'm fine with it and then we accidentally take a hard left turn oh no right into the one of the episodes of how not to cover out so okay let's put me in prison for questioning okay even though that's my right in fact let's execute alex jones let's let's put in front of a firing squad and pull the trigger the paradigm of absolute control and that's why we're just after doing simple things pointing out that we're meant to be in nature it'd be natural and this is where you find the source that god made to transcend the new world

border and that's why they want to try to keep us out of it that makes me think alex more than indian music you know that indian folk sound that's an alex sound i go out and face this stone still letting it go huh people like this song in the world say we want to record those days i let that go on as long as i did because i wanted to illustrate that they play almost the entire bonnie fair parody video of alex because it's it's the most uh like it works for him he loves it yep no um so that's fun um but also he doesn't own that song they don't have permission to use it no and so i was thinking hey this is a copyright strike right here it actually

is isn't it yeah um so i it really is like no joke i don't mean to tell tales out of school but i got in touch with the guy who made that video no shit and i was like hey just a heads up they used your shit in this documentary i don't i know you didn't give them permission we'll see what happens well unfortunately it turns out he doesn't have the copyright himself to that song so if super deluxe wants to oh it's super deluxe if they want to put a copyright strike on this they are more than welcome to well we've got a better chance than if it was via com true maybe yeah so uh that is is just fun so now we smash cut forward to uh the january sixth era and so january fifth is here here's a little interview with uh owin on the evening fifth yep they all got together and the

documentary filmmaker was like why are you burning this black lives matter flag and he was like because it's so great um no that doesn't come up oh no um but it isn't the evening of january fifth oh odd yeah and it is owin huh yeah this has much been just before that's a weird part right yeah i wonder if the documentarian was there and saw him burning that flag or just didn't uh go along for that who knows anyway suspicious in its absence odd i believe the order will be alex jones myself mike flinn i believe roger stone tomorrow's the day that could determine the 2020 election while millions of trump supporters and patriots are in dc so that's pretty much where we're at right now yeah so that's where we're at uh he's talking about how some speeches are going to happen that

night and also we're going to go burn a black lives matter flag and chant fucking tifa and uh no it was crayon tifa they were still on that tip uh the cranberry juice yeah absolutely okay so here's alex on the sixth there's a good bit of uh you know video stuff on the sixth and and what have you but here he is he's leading the march yeah there is uh and uh he's got a tone ladies and gentlemen this is such a historic moment together this is such a historic moment as a miracle awakens to the new order yes an incredible honor and an incredible pleasure to get to me to see somebody amazing human souls somebody great americans let's go nobody planned this but but trumps actually getting his inauguration on january 6 2021 right now folks

they've really screwed the perch on this we're going all out peacefully we have the facts on our side we want any violence we decry violence we're not blm we're not okay we're here to let the system know that we know we had our votes stolen and we could put millions in the streets when biden can't even fill six circles it is a little covet me yeah so he's riling people up with all the exact same rhetoric and the ideology that led to everyone storming the capital yeah and give me give me the rough cut of this entire documentary mm-hmm without the music added i won't change a single scene and all i will do is change the music and you will hear a completely documentary a completely different documentary probably i mean i could play soul coffings i don't need to walk around in

circles and you would listen to that clip listening to i don't need to end you'd be like oh yeah this is a fucking moron or it is that simple this is a music made by music entirely documentary almost yeah which almost warms my heart because i love music so much you know what i would like to see was that replace all of it with the cantina theme so and now that alex has led this march to the capital yes things go bad oh i remember when now i will when did they go back well i will say that this documentary omits uh uh harrison talking about how the capital has fallen that's weird i feel the patriots have taken over i'm going to tell you this right now i feel like they're leaving some things that might be important yeah out yep okay but here's alex

is going green while happy with it he loved it okay so here's alex trying to get people to stop rioting and storming the capital right um there is one point that i want you to listen closely for because alex is not getting anyone to listen to him and you can hear ali alexander say hey try a chant no all right so this is down for this jordan yeah so end america end it end it now the end if you're trying to stop people from taking over the capital uh to get rid of the illegitimate government that you believe has taken over the country i don't know if chanting usa is gonna really calm people down but he tries dear dear

every creative person that has ever existed do you remember that time when you were like here's what i'm gonna do i'm gonna put into this section of my creative endeavor where somebody an american tries to calm a crowd down or change their minds by just randomly chanting usa you remember when you were going to do that and you were like that might be a step too you were wrong no it happened wrong and it turns out it didn't work let's march around to the other side and let's not fight the police and give the system what they want we are peaceful we won this election and as much as i love seeing the trump flags flying over this we need to not have the confrontation with the police they're gonna make that the story

i'm gonna march to the other side when we have a stage where we can speak and occupy peacefully tell everybody behind you march to the other side march to the other side you guys are great but the police the prosecutors have caused a problem and the police are throwing flashbangs we don't want to have a kid state here so i love you we're saving the republic this is beautiful but please tell everyone you know march to the other side so there's there's a dynamic that i think could be explored interestingly by a different documentary than this and that is alex being unable to control the monsters he creates he has done his part to create the exact situation that unfolded on january sixth and here

he is yelling in a bullhorn unable to stop people from doing the thing he's pretending he doesn't want them to do yeah and that is a kind of sad picture and it's very similar to the way that he's unable to stop his listeners from harassing sandy hook parents yeah like he created this atmosphere he created this thing and even if he does like eventually say hey i think kids died i'm sorry he's not able to stop the ball that he started rolling down the hill yeah he can't stop these people from wanting to take over the capital after you have yelled into a bullhorn all day about how your vote was stolen from you and this is illegitimate and we need to take back our country you have you have no power over the monster you create you have the power to rile people up

and create this atmosphere that you're impotent when it comes to stopping it yeah and that's partially because you don't actually want to stop it yeah i mean so this what what this reminds me of is uh despite him being a horrific terrible shitty person uh in the book speaker for the dead orson scott card uh had a character who was i mean essentially living out in alex jones fantasy so he built up this mob as as one would describe it and the way orson uh goes through it is that this guy is in control of this situation he builds this mob together and he pulls it and then without his ability to control it it becomes a thing it becomes a a general consciousness so despite the fact that it's a bunch of different separate individual human beings

it is one mob right and then he the the character he is now the enemy of the mob the character's like oh this is a bad idea and tries to go hey mob let's not do this guess how it goes they attack him yep and alex is honestly lucky that the mob didn't turn on him because he's surprising he's alive in that in that environment him coming up and being like hey everybody no no no stop don't do this or whatever yep it's easy to be like oh look at that fucking fed he's uh he's telling us not to do the thing that's the natural conclusion of everything he's been saying for the last months absolutely yeah i mean it's we've we've talked about it how many times but it's like just because you split infinitives doesn't mean you change the meaning of your sentence true but you still

shouldn't split infinitives you i mean it's just bad writing it's a thing too badly do well done so um alex now poorly goodly done sure what nope that wasn't okay so alex now has had to deal with the fact that biden won although he's still in denial about it right so now we're on his show now we've grown up we get to the day of the inauguration sure and alex announces the death of america oh no because he's a whiny little titty baby right from the front lines of the information war it's alex jones ladies and gentlemen it is zero hour january 20th 2021 and the 46th president of the united states has just been installed in a giant coup for the globalist and the communist

chinese joe biden looking like a corpse with fake hair blowing around it's actually jim carrey one of them clearly say america was born july 4th 1776 you can really say it died january 20th the year 2021 very dramatic yeah very very dramatic i mean in some ways he also has said the capital has fallen you know just with a different tone the capital has fallen in as much as it's the same as ever yes the capital was in the hands of the patriots for a very short period right when it was higher it was schrodinger's capital because it was up for grabs yes and then once we observed it well now we're fucked yeah yeah so i guess i mean if you want to be like kind of i don't know here's one what's crazy i mean in all honesty there is a part of that

that is the republican argument against the trump being uh trump losing the election is like if you hadn't counted the votes we wouldn't be here right they don't say it like that but yes yeah i mean isn't it yeah so here's the here's one reading of this documentary's arc that i think is not what they intended but if you want to be really cynical about this sure and ignore all of the music cues and the entire structure i don't need to walk around in circles dan you have basically alex's like his whole career he's this guy who everybody looks down on because he won't compromise his views and he tells the truth no matter what right it's cost him his job because of weiko and all these stations because of 9 11 in his liberal fan base because he wouldn't accept obama true and all

this and then finally he's indicated right in the lead up to the 2020 election and the stop the steel stuff right he's finally a man because of trump who is seen as the guy right he's been right all along and we were foolish not to listen to him and then he has this culminatory moment on january 6th and he is completely unable to stop the crowd from taking the logical next step in his rhetoric which actually doesn't serve his purposes very well of course not it doesn't end up working and then biden is president and so it's kind of like a deflation yeah it's almost like all that stuff he was right about really didn't matter no because trump lost in 2020 and they weren't able to overthrow the government you know it is a little bit like

um boy sucks to be impotent yeah and politically especially like in the it's partially because there's nothing behind what he's saying if you were there's no meat on the bone and therefore there's no protein if you were i don't know if that works it's it's no i i understand what you're saying well you just don't eat meat off the bone so i can't engage with your it's true rib boy i can't engage with your metaphor because i just don't believe you fair enough uh but but it is it is a little bit like while his speech is going on you know right before the end whenever nobody pays attention to him if you played the benny hill theme song same thing or cantina theme ah come on we can't go back to that well too many times it's in a cantina fine so um the there's one scene left

in the documentary and it it's closing with alex and his son out shooting uh and this is the image this really humanizes this is the image that they wants to leave you with yeah the documentary wants to leave you with this image of him and his son shooting guns of and having some family time and then this clip ends with a really wistful clip from alex's past no and it's refuse it's the wrong message to end this with oh no he really just needs a space where he can roam and be free he's like uh buffalo hey rex how's your shoot i've known there 27 years and i've never thought about how is this gonna affect me my fear is a failure not of death

but they could put me in prison or they could kill me at any time and i just hope that i can do the best job i can to maintain doing good work in the future however long that is and i've already had a great life okay just aim it right at the sun get that home cloud maker is the sun setting on america and representative democracy or is it rising on a new day of people that are well informed so young alex is monologuing over video of like a really beautiful sunset sure sure sure and it's like oh fuck yourself i've got you you've not it's not only that you haven't earned this you've earned the opposite yep this is disgusting yeah yeah absolutely i there's one last clip if you okay if you

no keep going okay yeah so this is just where that thought ends so they have the shot of the sunset and then this is alex coming in with the parting shot of the documentary the weirdness i've seen in my life the bizarre happenings just the the the incredible discoveries that i've been blessed to be part of truth is stranger than fiction and that's not because i'm alex jones it's because of the time i am meals bore in such an incredible time right now but really my personal best moments of my life are feeling that zin understanding of timelessness and those moments in eternity that are endless those are the best moments of my life

and really realizing that we're just part of infinity and also when i did mushrooms with mike tyson i remember when amitabha buddha said uh shoot me in the fucking face if that asshole talks about me and you see the steps and you know that it's not going to go exactly how you want it to but there's going to be a goal at the end you reach that's better for everybody you know it's going to be painful you're not going to make mistakes you know you're going to hurt people on the way but you're doing it from a place of goodness and so you forgive yourself for that yeah it's that a process of being destroyed that by the end you're complete i want to die it's kill me right now in this hotel room it's a fairly tacky way to end the

better than this for me to die i mean what am i going to do what is better than this i gotta say i think ending the documentary with alex expressing forgiveness for himself is maybe i'm really grateful that i'm allowed to be uh uh not responsible for any of my actions ever it's possibly uh offensively indulgent i mean you know here's how this ends here's how this ends in a good world uh animal house uh freeze frame words saying alex is on the lamb never seen again that's as good as we can do for this documentary so if you're making this documentary it doesn't end like that then you're fucking done yeah you're done on the release date of this documentary alex is in court and his lawyer is being a complete asshole to sandy hook families yeah congratulations

you fuck yeah man boy unbelievable this documentary sucks um i mean i guess i could have just summed it up that way but yeah well i mean we would have had nothing to talk about so many more things we need to talk about from the trial updates and whatever you i mean there's been so much action i i think i think a lot of people who are probably interested have been following you on twitter sure live tweeting sure but i mean that's fun and silly and i have and there's a little more context to like talking about what actually is happening totally totally and and i'm gonna be honest with you what i'm what i'm trying to do is just info wars info wars right like i'm not that tweet i'm not doing a good job as a journalist in any sense of the word well you cited a source when

i told you about the st roes of lima that's true well i would never not give you credit for telling me so your journalism is all right well hey at least i give credit where credit is due i even credited Eugene merman when i stole one of his jokes today man of the sea man of the sea so what what do you what's your summation if you have if you have a thought um it is it is quite simply that mark is no no no no not of the case of the documentary oh of the document sorry oh no i'm sorry i got i got mixed up all of these infinitives are so split i was like wait your summation of this has to do with mark he was in this for two seconds no no no no my summation of the documentary is um what if uh you made a bad porn movie that was just uh two and a half hours of somebody

gradually ever so slowly poking at a limp penis does that it does that work for you it's late does that i feel like i don't know now i understand it's late i understand i'm trying to adjust my imagery my imagery is undeniable fine yes i think that this movie yeah as a whole is kind of excusable to a point i think the frame we have different opinions well i want to i just i think the way that you talk about alex's uh career in terms of like oklahoma city 9 11 if you want to portray that is kind of mythological in this false version of it whatever you're creating this me though it's a movie it's a movie yeah i mean it's a puff piece at its core so if you're gonna do that you're gonna do that and whatever i think the framing of sandy hook

is just something that people are mad about because he supported trump is an unexcusable and editorial choice that these documentary filmmakers are making right and i think they should be deeply ashamed of themselves right i think that anybody who watches this documentary like glenn greenwald or matt taibi and they don't come away with the same kind of conclusion i think that they have lost it yet i don't think it's possible to watch this documentary and think hey you know what it's responsible to choose to make this like that's why people don't talk about a stan yeah we're right that's the issue well i mean look it's a problem fuck this documentary we gotta we gotta stop doing this we gotta do other shit let's be wrong about things differently

and loudly um no i don't think that's gonna work for us we're gonna hate each i don't know i i i keep i feel like i'm hitting my head against a wall trying to make a summation other than like this sucks this sucks bad i mean it's yeah it's bad i think even some of the stuff is confusing some of the musical choices uh not the ones that are like really tacky and the crescendos that are like overly dramatic some of the other ones are very weird to the point where i had to pause a couple times because i thought something like a pop-up started playing music right right right right that can't be right yeah so i think some of the filmmaking itself is actually a little bit bad yeah and then like here's another thing like we haven't touched on is like what about all of

alex's friends like what about pechena i'm sorry who what about pechena name one what about leo zigami what about like all of these guests that he's had on over the years who are complete lunatics right what about big jim tucker the nazi adjacent guy who was his bilderberg source right daniel estolin his other bilderberg source who credits a spaceman in his book about bilderberg right like what about these people like honestly you're you're missing a big part of his story if you don't recognize that a lot of his information comes from fucking wackos right but what you're missing is that this is actually okay and i feel like i now understand the documentary i've i've come to the conclusion uh that what this documentary is about is that a man at one

point in time if he had chosen not to do a rush limbaugh impression could have joined the vespers choir and instead he chose one path it is it is a it is a classic poetics tale of a of a man who can go down two paths there's a beauty to that yeah yeah no no it is it is kind of haunting in its uh in its uh gorgeousness yep so we'll be back with another episode i think this is what we do i think the next one probably will be about the glenn greenwald thing but we may be able to also have a court recap in that because we can maybe make it a bumble episode or something now that we can record i would be shocked at how much we record i'm not turning any of this off yeah absolutely leave i'm not touching it this is what we're doing yeah we're leaving the live stream on

like the courtroom there's no live stream everybody can just occasionally listen to us talk and watch me sleep um so uh we'll be back but until then jordan we have a website we do it's knowledge fight dot com yep we're also on twitter we are on twitter is that go to bed jordan and add knowledge underscore fight and it's super late so i'm gonna tell you go to bed jordan you too no i have to get this episode oh no that's right you're gonna be up for another couple hours three days yeah yeah no saturday anyway we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark and i'm just ranting the whole thing's horseshit because it's all just insane andy in chansas you're on the air thanks for holding hello alexa my first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you