Knowledge Fight - #708: The Cuck-Destroyer Destroys The Stage

Episode Date: July 30, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan give a little court update and then decompress by deconstructing Owen Shroyer's recent debut as a stand-up comedian.  This kid is going places!

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight I love you Hey everybody welcome back knowledge fight I'm Dan I'm Jordan we're gonna do it's like sit around in a hotel room and worship Selene from afar and talk a little bit about Alex Jones Oh indeed we are Dan Jordan. Jordan. Good question for you. What's your bright spot today buddy? My bright spot today Jordan is just like getting it done. Yeah you know like I had such high hopes of being able to get an episode about that documentary out on the day it was released and I thought there's no way I'm going to be able to manage doing that and you know perseverance stick to itiveness whatever you want to call it persistence we managed to do it and I'm proud of us for it. Although at press time no response from Glenn Greenwald still or my tie you be nothing nothing for me for them no soul searching no posts on substack haven't haven't seen them be like this is why we're reexamining our life choices not one not one of them I want to question why I didn't think it was weird that Sandy Hook came up in the context of why people are mad at Alex it's just because of Trump yeah yeah nonsense but I'm glad that we were able to do that yeah cuz you know I think that there's a there's such a whirlwind of Alex going on right now that it's so easy for things to get lost yeah and that seemed too important to the to the larger body of like Alex I wanted to make sure that wasn't missed yeah also you know what else I remembered I fucked up I forgot to bring up one very important thing that wasn't in the documentary reset wars the most important thing that wasn't in the documentary crowning

achievement of Alex's life the culmination of his career reset wars not in the documentary about his career you're right you're right holy shit no mention of like Cleon Scousen no no no anyway what's your bright spot well my bright spot is gonna piggyback on yours because yours is very magnanimous and saying that we got it done but while we stayed up late until 3 30 or 4 this morning you worked all the way until 10 a.m. this morning when most people they would have said hey 3 30 I'm just gonna go to sleep I'll do it tomorrow and then then the episode open out at 9 p.m. at night that's not how you fucking work Dan it's the I don't want to go to bed until a task is done if it's possible yeah and you'll fight like hell to make it possible and that is my bright spot thank you I appreciate that but I also want to say just for the sake of total transparency it wasn't 10 a.m. you liar more like six central time yes everybody 10 a.m. somewhere you know people really rely on me not to be like hyperbolic well actually you know what Jimmy Buffett says was that 10 a.m. so Jordan today we have an episode to go over I have found something that I think will be a bit of fun for folks delight something a little bit more you know not not as impactful not as not as hard as the the trial not as hard as the documentary and the Greenwald Q&A is still off in the horizon right we're gonna do that soon but we're gonna have fun this isn't a moose bush oh I need in a moose bush your mouth will be amused my bush is needed to be amused but also one of the things that I wanted to do was take an opportunity to do talk a little bit about the trial itself and how things are going on and give folks a little bit of a recap because obviously that's that's something that's in a lot of people's minds sure we're recording this year on Friday just after the case has adjourned. Yeah for the day for the weekend. Yes. TGIF. Yeah. Thank you.

Thank you. You did mention Philadelphia earlier. Thank you. It's Fridders. Thank you. It's Fridders. I'm hungry. So yeah I feel like you've been you know keeping a real a real watchful eye on this case. Have I. I think so. I think so. I mean there I did I did go back because you I read I read a lot of what I wrote today and I do think that I could be making all of this up like if you read through that that is a made up. There's no way that any of that is real based on a real thing. I'm clearly hallucinating in my hotel room after we recorded until 3am last night. That must be what happened today. I think if that were the case you'd have a lot more people responding to your tweets with like I'm worried about you because I'm watching the stream and this is not at all what's happened. Well I have had some I'm worried about shoes but not for that reason. Well sure. But that's kind of par for the course. Yeah yeah yeah. No it was. Today was I mean it started with Owen being a piece of shit who is trying to. Owen was trying to be like that Stonewall witness where he's like you know I don't know if you and I don't know if you can prove I said that you know he's trying to do that whole thing. Press a button. Oh everybody. It was just annoying until he left the jurors the jurors asked him some questions that were were quite funny. The story of today is the jurors questions as time went on. Yeah right. Right. They started off being very simple and then by the end of the day they are wondering who is and is not a lizard person in the courtroom. So to be some context for anybody who's not aware of how this this is working like when you have the witnesses the jury is able to record questions that the judge

will ask them. Right. And people can object to the questions. The judge can say I'm not going to ask that. That's ridiculous. Right. So you did. So you can't shitpost too hard. Right. Right. But yeah the progression of these questions has if you're Alex or his lawyer. Yeah. I cannot feel good about some of these questions and the way that they are being being phrased. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It is. It is hard not to think that the defense is like here's what we're going to do. We're going to red pill these people. And that's how we'll get off of this. And those questions near the end of the day have got me thinking that the opposite is true. Actually we don't know tone. And that's true. It could be. Are you a lizard person. Exactly. Yeah. That's true. We could be totally misreading this whole thing. I wish that weren't a possibility but I will put it at maybe 15 20 percent. Yeah. I feel quite I feel quite low. Yeah. And then we then we they played some depositions Rob Jacobson's deposition. The Kraken the Kraken Badandi's deposition which was so funny listening to him talk about how much he loves Info Wars and how close he is with them and how they're his favorite people juxtaposed next to Daria being like I don't know if I've ever even heard of Badandi before. Like Badandi's under oh there's like Daria still sends me cards on my birthday. Absolutely. She loans my daughter money like it's that kind of she got me a Kraken plushie. It was it was that. And then we're laughing about that. But at the same time there is a pathos to that because it is like this guy is being used by them like not to not to absolve him of any of his actions. These things probably on his own. But he's being egged on and directed in some way and validated and probably told by Alex that you're part of the family and all this as it's going on. And then once it's inconvenient and incredibly damning. Oh it's not good to be too close with Badandi. You immediately cut bait and be like nah never heard of him. Yeah. Nope never heard of this guy. It's kind of sad. It is. It is because he was he was really expressing just various versions of like it feels good. It feels good to get a good boy from Alex. You know I imagine. Yeah. That's kind of what he said. Yeah. And I guess you know the the upswing of it is or I guess maybe the justice of it is because there is that little bit of pathos maybe we can feel OK that Badandi himself is not getting sued. Yes.

You know maybe that's how he gets off the hook or whatever. Yeah. I mean it is. It is a little bit like Don. Badandi's deposition kind of makes him look to be more the gun and not somebody who is firing it. You know. So it's like well I mean I know he's a person but also he's a person shaped like a gun that doesn't think real well. So that's kind of a problem there. Yeah. And if you know if he's convinced that Sandy Hook is a false flag or whatever and he makes one video yelling at somebody about it and no one cares odds are there's not going to be a second video. Also this isn't going to keep going. But if you have a platform like Alex's show like the nightly news on Info Wars that's willing to validate and disseminate your content and connect you with like Wolfgang Halbig and you know like it's it kind of it's encouraging in a way that I would again I don't know if we can prove it but I would say it probably facilitates it kind of makes it happen. Yeah. No makes it happen more. And that is what the afternoon's testimony was almost entirely about. Becca Lewis a hero to the Squatch forever. Well I appreciate that. And she did do a great job on it. But the Squatch has no I understand. And we haven't spoken yet. I will I'm nominating her. That's fine potential hero. The council has not yet voted. It's not official. I understand. But she did a spectacular job explaining like the difference between what happens whenever you post on Facebook and what happens when you post on Info Wars. You know. And while it seems like it that's a very easy thing for people to just instinctively grasp around. It is kind of complicated whenever you start getting into what it is that it means to post on Facebook. You know you get a hundred shares or whatever. And you think wow I'm a media organization as opposed to when Info Wars post something maybe it says a hundred. But because it's Info Wars it's on this platform that goes over there. And then because it's like a spider web distribution. Of the content. And that's the thing that the more she made clear the better it was. Oh yeah now now they're getting that shit. Yeah. Well and it's kind of hard to recognize now in 2022 and even over the past few years the different nature of what Facebook was like in 2012 2013 2014.

Like it was not the same website that it is now. Wow. I didn't even consider that thought. I don't think anybody considered that. I imagine that if they had actually just been like OK let me show you a screenshot of Facebook in 2012 and what it looked like. I think that would be a very different question as well. That's I think so. And I think that it was it was less an unusable website and more like it wasn't as much of a like place where people's you know grandparent chain emails would basically be reposted over. Right. Or maybe it was but it was like that that was confined to smaller spaces for groups of people who all hated gardening but somehow wanted to not say yeah and then to your point too with the like if you have a hundred shares or whatever and your share like the hundred people who are sharing it or people who have like an audience of two. Exactly. You know it's it's it's a distorted image of a hundred shares. It's not real like right. Well it's real but it's it's not as impactful as two shares from like. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah Becca did a great job. She was fantastic on the stand. And I thought it was interesting to watch the defense try and do the cross. My God. It was it was weird. I don't even know how to describe that guy's performance today. I think that was today. I really did feel like like I tweeted this and I don't want to repeat tweets but that's terrible. Doug Benson doing exactly. But today really felt like the first day that Info Wars tried to put the system on trial instead of Info Wars being like cross examined and like here's why you guys are terrible. This was shit balls first attempt to be like here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to prove that you're a liar. I'm going to prove that you aren't an expert at all. What is Harvard Law School or Oxford Law School. Can you can you walk me through an entire statistics class. Totally. It was it was very much that it was like Alex's questions for somebody who

actually knows something and they do not sound good in a courtroom. No. Yeah. I found that to be a little. So over the course of the last few days to there have been some things that have gone on. There has been. I think probably the biggest moments outside of the rolling thunder of Daria's horrible performance that went on way too long terrifying exhausting. But I think honestly most of that is stuff that it relates at least sort of tangentially to stuff we covered in the deposition. Right. I don't know if anything happened in the courtroom that is more shocking than Daria saying that Super Bowl image is an image of hope. Yep. An expression of hope. Yep. And so I don't want to dwell too much on it because I don't know other people have talked about it. Sorry. It was trending on Twitter. Great. Yeah. But the two things I think stick out are obviously the fight that Mark and the defense attorney got into. Of course. That's a little little fun. Hey it's Texas. Come on. Texas Justice. I mean come on. We were going to leave without a fight. I think they should have had a duel. I think they might still. And then the other thing was Owen being trastised for going on Info Wars and talking about the case and the moment of him saying that his lawyer had not told him about the rules of him being a witness and not being able to talk to other witnesses and not being able to talk about the case. That was I mean if there was a moment that was needed to be like this is this is disrespectful. Yeah. That really filled that that that gap. You know I knew where we'd be but still I thought that when the actual trial happened and I don't know why I thought this. I feel like a fool because I still had that thought in the back of my mind even though I knew here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to expect the worst that's still in my head. I was like at the actual trial they will have prepared something. Nothing. No. I mean nothing. Well it might have prepared emotionally to be this brazen. I don't know if there is a way to prepare to be this brazen. I think you're born with this kind of a gift. I think it involves whiskey. Yeah. I would need a canteen a theme.

Yeah. So I don't know. It's interesting for me to look at it and recognize that like I think that there is a not insignificant amount of our audience who are watching the live stream of the trial. Yeah. And so any discussion of some of that would be redundant. There's not. There's a recognition that I have to that a lot of outlets are covering the trial. Sure. And some of them are people who have a better understanding of law than me 100 opening arguments didn't episode that came out I believe today about the the case. Oh yeah. Yeah. And so I don't know. I feel that I'm at my best when we're talking about things that other people aren't talking about. And when there's other coverage of things I kind of feel like we'll end up just being another voice. And that's not to say that we shouldn't talk about the trial at all. No. And we can talk about our feelings on it. But I don't have as much of an interest in doing like a play by play on it like I would with the documentary at least until it's over. Well I mean the reality of it is in our context is that what is happening is they're just being forced to listen to all of the evidence that has been presented against them not not necessarily collected by by you specifically just that that's what our show is too. You know and they're just they're looking at it and the it would be redundant for us to cover it because it's the same stuff we have covered. You know they're just presenting the evidence that we've spent five years talking about finally to these dumb people's faces. And yeah so I think you know it was a little bit brief in terms of like a court recap but the right amount check in on Jordan's Twitter. Go to bed Jordan if you want a lot of a lot a lot a torrential barrage of bullshit. Yeah. And we'll have more you know talk with some of the folks who maybe have a better insight on some of the stuff. Yes.

In coming days and and what have you but Jordan I told you we have something a little bit fun and so that's something we're going to get into today. I'm about one of the reasons that we're putting this out here on on Friday evening like as I guess a de facto Saturday episode sure is because why not. We're here in Austin. We can record. We can do what we want. Yeah. No rules. No we're producing Texas justice. We're producing way too much content and how dare you to defy us. And so we got to get this out because it's a it's a special time for comedians and that is JFL auditions. People just got JFL nods. No today. I think it was the other day. Maybe a couple days back. All right. But I saw that our old friend. Actually I don't know if they're one of your old friends but somebody that I knew and was friendly with back when they lived in Chicago ever Maynard got new shit. Ever did. Yeah. Congratulations. That's fantastic. Yeah. And so they are great. Yeah. They're great. And I got in this this mood of thinking about stand up and it's really fortunate because on Bandod video. No. Owen Shroyer released an 18 minute video. No. That is titled Owen Shroyer does a stand up special. No. Yeah. So we're going to talk about Owen Shroyer stand up special. Did he get a JFL nod because if he gets one and I have never gotten one I am going to be mad. I'm going to be curious. You've never auditioned. I don't think. Well nobody's ever even asked me. That's how bad it is. Nobody's ever even considered asking me. So we don't need to worry about the audition. I auditioned one year. I was asked to audition one year and I did it at CYSK and it was painfully clear even going into it.

They were interested in seeing and then they just had to pad out the rest of the show. Right. So it was very nice that they you know the producers asked me to like be a part of that. Padding out of the show. Yeah. Yeah. You're meeting the room. But it was so fucking clear. Like all right. These are the four people that have a shot. The rest of you if you torpedo this fucking room. Yeah. Then maybe we'll consider it. Yeah. But like you don't really have a shot. Yeah. It is fun whenever you go there and you're like oh you came here with your agents and we all came by ourselves. We're not going to JFL. Are we. No. No. We're not. So this was at a Bryson Gray. Who is a right wing rapper slash comedian slash public figure man. Moga figure real Renaissance man. I don't think a lot. Let's call him that. I don't know too much about him actually because I think that he lives mostly in the war room guest sphere. I've seen him less. I don't know if I even remember him being on Info Wars. But I'm sure he has been right. I'm sure he's been on with Alex. Right. Yeah. He's a guy who's running a little bit of a show in San Antonio in San Antonio and we missed it. We could have been there. I think we actually could have. Oh I think it might have been on the day that we got to town. It might have been impossible. We flew into the wrong city. So this had that. Who else was on the list that night. You had a friend Averman. No. The there were two people from 2000 mules but not Dinesh D'Souza to the other people involved. There was that that Moga rapper who did that song with Roger Stone where Roger Stone was dancing. I just don't do it. You know whenever the Moga people have their culture that they insist is something we might describe as rap or something we might describe as humor.

I just I just did. I disagree with them on the principle. It's not rap or funny. So I'm done. I have to be honest. Sick flows. Well then I guess I take it back. I should tell you it's twisted. The fastest rapper in the world. Method Feta mean lyrics. God damn it. No. So here is Owen's introduction. You got to come out of the gate strong. Sure. Obviously you want if you're someone who is maybe starting to get into the world of stand up and you want a little bit of advice. One of the things is strong opener strong closer. You know the old the old saying you know your best joke is less and your second best joke is first. That's the way you do it. It's true. Nope. You can tread water for a little while in the middle. Get away with it. If you open strong close strong. Yeah. Yeah. So here's Owen opening. Yeah. That's how they see it. You know they say oh look at the top. Did he. So so the tacos thing that was that Jill Biden comment. Oh she had made where she was talking about the.

The Hispanic population is diverse as the bodegas and the Bronx. Right. The breakfast tacos and like obviously the point that she was making is like not a offensive one. Right. But boy was it. Oh they got her boy was it. She should have reconsidered the way she was. Yeah. No. No. That's bad. She was making totally. But yeah I mean I guess it was pretty recent I guess to when he did this stand up special. And so coming out with the topical. Hey we got any tacos out there. Yeah. Hey hey that's what they call you. That's what they call you when I'm calling you that. Yeah yeah that's what they call you. I introduced you and greeted you that way without performing the contextual that would give you the idea that I'm above that. But it was it's so widely known within this space that like you have you don't even need to explain. I need to explain to you man and our listeners probably but yeah they know it so well because it's been the top headline at every right wing blog. Jill Biden calls Mexican people tacos. This is absurd. Yeah I can't believe that I have no idea about that whatsoever. And that's just the most famous thing in the right. And like this is also a caution to people want to get in stand up. Be careful about whether or not you think your material will age. Right. Right. This is this is tired a week. Oh so tired. It's already unrelatable. Yeah. Yeah. I mean you know it was easier for John Stewart to like shit talk gaffes. You know the late night shows they talk the gaffes. Oh look at the president. He said this. You know. And then it's gone tomorrow because it's a very throw away joke. Right. You know you don't need it. And if you're saying it out loud on stage you should stop being on stage.

Well I mean that's just another gaff of Biden. Hey he's got cancer. But also that did make the news. People are talking about that. That's how he knows about it. Exactly. It's not like he was following Biden around like everybody's lying about you. But thanks for hanging out and having cancer with me. Yeah. Also this wasn't a gaff but I was I was reflecting on it. The I made a reference to somebody being like now watch me sink this three and I didn't realize it. But what I was trying to pull up in my memory was that George W. Bush. He was giving a like a press speech on a golf course and he was talking about like a rack that he's like and now watch this drive. That's right. I had forgotten that that's what I was in my mind. Wow. I take an outside of all of the context of being George W. Bush and talking about a rack. Sure. It's a pretty baller movie. Did he get a good drive. Yes. God damn it. Yeah. It was like science. Just terrible. That is terrible. Now watch this drive. It's such a funny thing to say to the media. You can't be president if you say that. That should be it. Again. I'm not saying that we need to make like big grand laws. I'm saying that we should make more targeted very specific laws. Like if you say that to the media you immediately stop being president. I feel like that's fair. The question that arises from that is like was that an attempt to be funny or was that something that was just like he uncomfortably said it and it ended up being amazing. Amazingly disrespectful and very funny knowing W the way that we all do after these so many years. I imagine he just really wanted to hit the drive and they kept asking him questions and so eventually he lost interest in what they were doing and was like I'm going to go hit this drive.

I'm the president. Yeah. Yeah. So Biden's got cancer. But he doesn't. But the media didn't cover it. Oh yeah well. And so but Owen decides to develop this theme a little bit of sicknesses that Biden has. Oh so he's turning this into a bit. Not necessarily just a joke. Maybe. OK. OK. Biden's here. I turned all the lights off. We're getting 20 minutes to take a little nap and see if we can talk about that. No but you noticed. You know you know one thing about stand up that I think a lot of people who who like are like I could do stand up. Right. It is a little bit like saying like oh I could just go sing the national anthem in front of the Staple Center where you're like sure maybe you know how to sing.

You could physically do it. Yes. Yes. But you don't know what the song actually sounds like. And so when you sing it you're kind of like and that's stand up has a music and a rhythm and a vibe to it. And if you are singing a bad song that's going to happen. And you also don't really know what you're going to feel when it doesn't go the way you expect. Yeah. And unless you've done it a lot of times that can be really disorienting. Yeah. And you can end up in situations like we just heard there like he has no control over the audience. Oh there's yelling shit out. And then they're yelling diseases just like dementia Lyme disease. Now I will say that I do like this. Covid you hear about this. If he if he weren't doing it like he was trying to do a bit instead if he were accidentally or maybe even on purpose saying it like that that would be funny. But unfortunately sort of like an anti comedy. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Also Biden went to those countries before he was diagnosed with Covid. Also we stopped tracking and tracing way before I never got it. I actually would bet that there has been some attempts to tracking and tracing.

Given all around. Yeah. Yeah. Given the people that he has contact with. Oh yeah. But yeah those trips that he was mentioning were not after. No Biden canceled like a domestic trip because of he was on screen the entirety of his Covid time. Yeah. I think so. Yeah he was never outside. So look they wish him well with the Covid. Of course. Oh one does. You know we don't want we don't want Covid to kill Joe Biden. Right. This is going to add well anybody. I hope you go by and die from Covid. No you don't want to go great. The cancer won't be just fine. No no I'm kidding. Why. Yeah that that that has structure. Yeah. It's not that great but it has structure of a joke. Yeah. And then I like the lol and then the just kidding and then someone yelling no you're not. Yeah. Yeah. That was a very that's that is kind of an interesting thing about the rights version of humor. You know they have the structure of a joke but they just say something they believe. You know like I don't want him to die of Covid. I want him to die of cancer. That's what he said. Yeah. And so he wasn't joking.

Maybe. But if you just look at it from a purely comedic perspective. Right. You have that's a misdirect. It is a classic misdirect. And congratulations. Oh and you pulled that off kind of. That is true. That is true. Now there is just a better. That's a punch. That's a punch up a bull joke though. I mean you don't go from Covid to cancer. You escalated into a completely different territory. You know we don't want to die of Covid. We want him to be hit by a giant rubber duck. You know you you really push it to the absurd. Yeah that might be helpful but I think that there's something about the the resonant sound Covid. You're not wrong. You're not wrong. Maybe that's where he's sitting there with a pen and a pad. The seas. I think I got to go with it. The sound is usable for humor much better than many others. Yeah. Maybe instead you should say he should be drowned in kaka. Yeah. Boom. It is not hard to punch up this joke. But he'd already established the cancer. So I think you're kind of boxed in. That's fair. That's fair. But Biden doesn't have cancer. No but the truth is by then he actually misspoke. He didn't say that. He didn't mean to say that he has cancer. What he meant to say was that he is a cancer. Claptor. Oh is he done. Thank God. Is it like 60 cents a gallon or is it what is it. I don't know. There's no context for this. No. What do you don't put the same amount of gas in your tank every time.

I guess is it 60 cents a barrel. What are we talking about. Yeah. I mean is this a joke. I guess it is. He just think he's funny. He just thinks he's funny all the time. I would assume that a lot of his life revolves around people affirming that. A lot of people yelling you get him cock just earlier. Yeah. Stuff like that. That's true. Yeah. I think that there's an intrinsic problem with this and that is that they've been complaining that gas prices are too high for a very long time. Right. And they're making fun of somebody achieving that. Yes. So that's a problem. Well then the second problem is that does he not think that Trump has bragged about way smaller reductions in gas prices. I don't think you understand how humor works. Look I understand. No I know. I understand that sometimes you want to just you know swing a big bat or whatever. Sure. Sure. But there are just structural problems at the point that he's trying to make. Absolutely. I think what's what's fun about it is that for the far right. Right. You know how we hate comedians who are like everybody give it up for the troops in order to get a huge applause break for the far right. Apparently you get an easy applause break if you're like Biden is a cancer and that's it. Well they they they fucking hate what they see as like virtue signaling in comedy and stuff and despise it. Yeah. And what is that but that. No no no it's way different. Sure. Because it's been well I guess you could argue that it's elevated from pure virtue signaling because he's saying he doesn't have cancer. He is cancer. So there's like a linguistic twist that he's using but it's elementary. Yeah. But look Biden Joe not the only Biden. There's another Biden. Oh well actually there's a third Biden because we already talked about Jill Biden. Right. Right. Right. Right. We're talking about the dog. No. Oh we're talking about Hunter. Oh Biden is just right in the beginning of this disastrous family about a hundred.

We haven't seen a hundred in a while. I was coming in. I noticed that there was a strip club. What. Yeah. It's it's it's funny because he's horny. Yeah. And you know there's a strip club. All right. So Owen is in San Antonio. Is there any reason to assume Hunter Biden would be in San Antonio or is it just a random strip club that Owen saw and he thought hey there's boobs in there. Yeah. Let's put these two together. How can I turn this into something that is going to let's say. Break ground in the industry and it killed. Yeah it really did. It really did. So now now that Hunter has come up. I have to say that I think that this next clip that he this joke that he has about Hunter Biden. Yeah. I think is as close as you're going to get to a good bit. Interesting. This isn't this. There's legs here. Let's see if he needs to do some work on it. I would recommend him hit some open mics. OK. Think about what he's trying to say a little bit. Yeah. But there's something here. OK. Hunter Biden walks into Best Buy. And the word comes over. Whatever he says. You know I'm looking for the camera to film a crack deal. I think the best camera to film a crack deal would be. You guys go with a GoPro or maybe a handheld. He says well sometimes sometimes if I'm filming maybe some incest. I need to open my hands. Is there a helmet or do I have a head strap. This is his life. I'm trying to figure this thing out. And at this point at this point he's like I don't know whether to call the manager or the police. What's going on here. That's not in the news either. What you're. You're imagine scenario. Hunter Biden going to Best Buy.

That's confusing. Now that's a weird one to end on. I think that the joke and the act out of him going to Best Buy and like what's the best video to get a crack deal for to take a crack deal for sure. There's a good premise. That's a good premise. Ruined it by bringing it to the incest thing and went to shocking. It's disgusting. And it doesn't heighten the bit of what he was he who's working on the absurdity of a man going and buying a camera to film his own. Criminal activities. Yes. Yeah. And the sort of the image of that. Like why would you film a crack. Right. Totally. What are the specs of the camera. Like there is something there. Right. You could chisel away at and kind of have a fairly funny joke. Right wing context that makes fun of Hunter Biden. But I because what you've got in your back. Yeah. No what you've got your impact in your back pocket on this one. Right. As you can slowly escalate it through that kind of prism. And then instead of being like I don't know who to call the cops or whatever. You can be like wait. Are you Hunter Biden. That's what the you know. And then it would be like people go crazy. That would be a better like sort of tag. Exactly. I don't know whether to call the police or the manager is kind of lazy. Yeah. That's that's something you would get out in like the first three or four times you tell the right. Right. That's not working. That's not going to end. That's not going to close this bit. Or if you hang out with funny people. One of them will be like he's here's something better. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah I think there was kind of like. No I see. Not terrible. It's a good premise. Yeah. It fell apart. The premise is there. He negated it halfway through instead of continuing whenever he can. You can't do that. You got to have the rhythm. You got to have the music. Right. And the like what you're saying too is an important point and that is that like the shock of the twist or whatever bring it to the

incest right. It isn't earned. No. And it's not like it's not what the foundation of the joke was. There's absurdity and then you went gross. Yeah. And with no time to with no time to process. Yeah. It's terrible. So there's more topical stuff here. But hey you know Democrats are fighting. They're fighting oppression. They're fighting racism and they're all. I don't know if you guys have heard. Look that you say it first because you're going to say the same thing I am. Don't know like what that is exactly. But like in the context of a parody of Owen. That's a pretty funny. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. They're fighting oppression. Democrats are all. It is a funny thing to say because it's so absurd that anyone would ever say it. Yeah. Only Owen would. Yeah. Yeah. In the context of something that is commenting on people like Owen. Right. That is a great line to include hilarious for Owen to be saying it is obvious. Very bizarre. Too weird. Yeah. If you were if if yeah if you dressed up in an Owen suit and said that people would be like that is the funniest impression I've ever seen like a Sasha Baron Cohen. Exactly. 100%. Yeah. But apparently Saudi Arabia is basically buying professional golf. You guys heard this live tour. It's a big story. Saudi Arabia is just buying Saudi Arabia is buying golf turns out. So golf has historically been a sport that was built on exclusion. In order to play it you needed access to huge areas of land which are usually expensive to access. It requires a golf course. So golf has historically been a sport that was built on exclusion. In order to play it you needed access to huge areas of land which are usually expensive to access. It requires expensive equipment and as a tradition pretty deeply rooted in segregation with courses being part of golf clubs which could choose to admit no black people if they wanted to until relatively

recently. Things have gotten gradually improved with the sport but it's still got a ways to go in terms of inclusion. Anyway there's a larger backdrop behind the phenomenon that Owen is discussing which he's pretending not to know about and is relevant to the subject of this joke. Right. Also the structure of this joke doesn't really make sense. He likes that the PGA he likes them because he interprets them as being less into wokeness or accepting gay people while he hates the NFL and NBA because they're too woke. Saudi Arabia apparently wants to buy golf. So Owen wants them to buy the NFL and NBA presumably so they wouldn't be so woke or accepting of gay people. But there's really only two ways this could make sense. He would have to believe that the sport of golf was preemptively being excluding of people in order to court an offer from Saudi Arabia or that golf was previously full of wokeness but Saudi Arabia somehow got them in check. Nothing about golf changed because of the possibility of Saudi Arabia buying the sport whatever that means. So there isn't a hinge to put this on to make the joke that if they bought the NBA it would stop being woke. This is just not very well thought out material. He's just saying that hey there is a vein of bigotry that runs through golf. Right. I like. Right. There is a vein of wokeness that goes through the NFL and NBA. Right. Saudi Arabia is starting their own golf series. They're not buying the PGA or something. Right. They're buying golf. Right. They're just getting their own live series of golf events. Yep. And so he wants Saudi Arabia to get into these other professional sports because he believes that the things that he complains about about Muslim culture would then be applied to. Right. And it would be better. What he's saying is that he would rather live in Saudi Arabia than he would live in the United States because the United States is too woke and Saudi Arabia kills gay people.

I mean I don't know how else to interpret the structure. There's no other way to interpret it other than he is saying that I would prefer for fucking Sharia law to be the law of the land or at least I would for an NBA player to say black people exist. At least he would like Sharia law to be applied to sport. That's true. That's fair. That's fair. But sport. Yeah. I mean what what he's saying is like here's here's the problem. Right. NFL and NBA are too woke. That's why all of the openly gay players come out after they retire too much wokeness in the sport. That's how it goes. That's how it happens. So God damn woke. Now if Saudi Arabia bought them we wouldn't even need to worry about it would we. There is there. There are just like thematic and like idea based reasons that this joke is pretty weird. Right. Especially for someone like Owen to be saying it. Right. But then even just from a structural standpoint it doesn't make sense like what would be achieved by Saudi Arabia buying golf. I mean if if what I'm if what I'm interpreting is that he wants Saudi Arabia to fuck up people of anything but straight white males then he's doing a bad job of telling a joke about it. You know like as from a from a telling the joke standpoint if that's what you're trying to say you're going to have to write a better joke. Yeah. So here is actually I think a decent joke. It's simple kind of but I think I think it works. It's filler. I really respect Bryson Gregg. I really do. He's one of the few people who actually sticks to his principles and he's actually sacrificed a lot in that process. He couldn't perform at the White House. He wouldn't sacrifice his principles so they didn't let him. But I'm a little confused because I follow Bryson and people are always using racial slurs against him. You know they call him a coon. They call him Uncle Tom. And I'm so confused because I've seen it and I'm thinking

that's a fine joke because it's calling back to Joe Biden's interview on the campaign trail with the breakfast club where you said that you aren't black if you have a problem deciding between him and Trump. And like that was a offensive gaffe that you made. He apologized for it. But like yeah that's making fun of something that did happen. Right. Maybe maybe it could be rewritten a little bit. I don't I don't necessarily think that like that's a polished joke. Sure. But the thing that he's trying to say like these people are racist against Bryson Gregg and I don't understand it. But he's not even black. He didn't vote for Joe Biden. Right. Right. There is the joke there. And I mean I'm grading on a scale. Yes. No no no. I know. And for for what this is that's a fine joke I guess. Sure. I would get why a moga crowd would laugh at that. Right. Not be like what's the joke here. Right. Get what the joke is. And I understand why if you're in that space you might think that's fine. Right. Right. Right. I mean OK. If I'm if I'm rewriting it I'm saying you are coming dangerously close to not parroting the thing that you're describing. But in fact being the thing that you're describing insofar as you're describing a black person as non black due to whatever it is you feel like. So you're saying oh these people are criticizing him for this and then you're doing the same thing only in a positive light. So it's not really changing or or switching the premise around. It's just like I like it. There may be a deeper analysis that you're you're touching on that I think could be there. Sure. I'm looking at triviality of stand. OK. When we're on that level it works. OK. I think that stuff like Biden saying that kind of stuff. That's fair game. That's what people should be lampooning if you're right wing. Totally. Totally. That is by all means. Yeah. No that's a fucked up thing to say. Make fun of him for it. I'm down.

So here we touch on getting a getting into the hot hot gun topic. Good guy with a gun situation had just happened recently. A lot of funny jokes. So funny. There was just a shooting in the Indian mall. I'm sure you guys heard about shooting in the animal. Very tragic. But there was a hero. Who knows how many lives right. I try to put my head I try to get into the liberal mindset. It's a difficult place to go. Really I don't suggest it. OK. Let's say let's say a liberal is watching this play out in real time. All right. Psycho killer that they pump full of drugs comes out with his guns. He's getting ready to do the mass shooting. And they're they're excited. Yeah. We're going to get done control. Too long without a beat first. We're about to get done control. And they're sitting there in the TV and they come down. He starts shooting and then he goes down. What. What's up. Somebody stop shooting. What the. I thought we took away the guns. That wasn't supposed to be stopped. We wanted that shooting to go down. And that's what they want. How many people have to die. For Democrat control. That's what they want. And that's the truth.

We forgot the joke. Yeah. That's exactly like what the right complains about the left and stand up and stuff doing which is not being funny and just sort of virtue signaling a point. Yeah. And then just getting claps from the audience who agree with your point. Yeah. Like you could hear people muttering. There was no laughter. No. At the point where he's doing what is presumably an act out of this. This liberal who wants more people to die in the shooting so they can get gun control. Yeah. I mean just grim. Well you heard somebody like whisper. That's what they want. This is a call in response pastor. This is not a comedy show stand up baby. No. I disagree. Yeah. If I were in this position on stage. Yeah. I might bail. I would absolutely. I mean the or I might get hostile. I might turn on the audience. I mean we've we've we've we've spoken at length about one of our favorite places to perform comedy in the the in Burwin. Yes in the Burwins. Stripes. Yes. And there was a I will call him infamous man who would host the shows and he would open by being bringing out the worst headlines he could think of. And he'd just go like three people died on the street because it was too hot yesterday. But they wish they had an egg and no one would laugh and it'd be like yeah that's what you deserve.

That's this is horrific. That is what I heard. And what I realize now is that he was just in the wrong place. If our man had gone to wherever Owens going he would be on Info Wars. He might he might have a show. Yeah. Yeah. Well look I think that that obviously is a tragic thing to see. But my experience with scars and stripes was is a hostile place. It was not not always the best time. No. But there was very rarely a lack of reaction whenever most people were performing. Yeah. Yeah. No one would have been beat to death by now. But like that silence when you're doing a like. Oh yeah. It's it. That's terrifying as a performer. If you if you were committing to like a bad character and you're getting nothing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not good. Not good. Yeah. No no no. Yeah. It's the silence that's worse than the yells. Yeah. The yells of like you suck. You're like at least we can work with this. At least I'm here. Yeah. The silence is like are you watching TV right now. The silence is why you've got a retreat to that like making a political point to get applause true and bring things back into a like. All right I'm actually here eliciting a response from these people. Yeah. Yeah. OK. We can maybe try again. Yeah. And so he stays on the the shooting subject and he talks a little bit about Yovaldi and how smart the police didn't respond. If I was writing the set list might change a couple things. Yeah. Now I have to tell you I want the dumbest tweets in front of me you're ever going to see right here from Stephanie rule. So you know about Stephanie rule.

Probably not worth your time. But she says this. She says if four hundred trained police officers weren't prepared to engage what's the argument for arming kindergarten teachers. That again is just virtue signaling to gun shit with like arming the teachers. But like I mean I guess if you're in that space and you really believe that arming teachers is the solution. That's kind of the solution of all of sure. Like just arm everybody. Yeah. Yeah. Put everybody with a gun in their hands. Well because you know it's going to take five minutes for the police to show up even in under perfect circumstances in that five minutes. You need to shoot somebody. You need to shoot somebody. Fine. Whatever. I get that that's your belief system. Right. But I think that just looking at it through clear and sober eyes. Four hundred police not responding. Right. The teacher being unarmed is not the problem. Right. There's a other problem. Right. There's a much bigger problem than that is the four hundred police. No idea what you're talking about. No. See if the teacher if the teacher had just been better is what he's saying. Well if the teacher had had access to guns to be better. Sure. Well and honestly then you have to ask yourself why didn't the teacher take it upon themselves to just be armed. Yeah. No. I mean Owen is just basically saying that if your students die it's your fault as the teacher and the inactivity of the police is not an indication of what do you expect them to do. Right. They're all they're working. Yeah. I don't know. I get this is pandering but it's it's it's not that it's not thought out in the way these other bits are. Right. It's just a fan service.

I mean it's because I think he thinks there's the turn. He thinks that the turn is you say four hundred police officers and then you put it on the the single teacher. You know that's the turn. I guess. Yeah. And it's it doesn't actually make sense. It's it's more structured like a Norm MacDonald joke where the premise and the punchline are the same sentence. You know. But it's not funny because it doesn't make any sense. Yeah. Yeah. So we get to talking a little bit about abortion. The top hot topics all over the place. But this is actually more about abortion protesters. Oh. How many of you guys have seen my videos right out on the streets and we have the crazy liberals. A good comic references his own videos. Yes. The reason why I do that is because it exposes who they are, what they are. And how do they think this is a winning argument? And they say they got women are naked and they cover themselves in blood and then they blew themselves to tennis courts and then they blew themselves to basketball hoops and then they blew themselves to Starbucks bars. Now, have you seen the new one they submit an instant concrete and they submit their hands on to Rose and they come into the chat.

They were like, it's worth losing my hand. I noticed the liberal ban. That's a separate. That's a separate thing. But they think this is a good argument. They think acting like psychos and trying to disrupt civilization is a good argument. I don't think so. I think it's a losing argument actually. So I don't think that's going to happen.

But we do have some pretty hilarious. So Greg have it. I am confused because there's not really a joke other than calling to mind what he how he wants to characterize abortion protesters. And then the statement that he's making is I think their tactics are ineffective. Yes, that's like there's no joke. What he needed to do at the end there is like what they should do exactly or something like that and then have some funny idea of what they should do to protest that would get a message across or something or or or heighten a parody of I don't know whatever. I'm not going to I'm not going to write the act for him. But he after complaining about these tactics being ineffective, the audience is kind of expecting a joke.

Yes, you've established the premise and now you follow up. We've been doing this for hundreds of years how jokes work. If you establish a premise in the context of being a comedian, then you have to follow it up with a punchline. Yeah, of some sort. Other than like, I think that's dumb. What I what I didn't realize really until just now is like people who watch stand up but don't do it right when they they don't realize that the biggest lie a comedian says is I don't understand like if you are writing a joke. When you say I don't understand it's because at the end of the joke, you will have made a point because secretly you always understood the whole time to understand in order to understand.

Exactly. It's the same thing with people say that you have to be really smart to play a dumb person. Exactly. In a movie. Like that. I think that. Yeah. Obviously.

Yeah. Obviously. And but he doesn't actually understand what he's talking about. So he's like, I'm killing it. You know, and you have to have a larger point. I think that just this is dumb. Yeah. Yeah.

I think that's trite. And and if you're expecting to carry you on stage, you are sorely mistaken. It works for Alex, though. Not on stage. We saw that. That was a long time. That was a long time. It might work now.

It was a different time. Yeah. It was a different time. I think when he was a guest on Kill Tony, it largely worked. That's brutal. That's brutal. So we get to international affairs. This is terrible.

It is. This is terrible. It's not much longer. Okay. Good. But it is terrible. Oh my God. You notice when Putin shuts the blind mind down, going to Europe, what do they say?

Putin commits an act of war. Putin in doomsday scenario shuts off gas to Europe. Putin could be responsible for millions of Germans freezing to death. We're dying of heat exhaustion. An act of war. Doomsday. An act of war. And then we go back to America.

And so today's good news, Joe Biden shut off another pipeline. You just told me that was an act of war. You just told me that was a doomsday. Oh, when Biden does it, it's okay. It's okay. Kind of like if you did anything that they do at these gay pride parades, have you seen this stuff? You seen this stuff?

Wow. So jokes like... Wow. No laughter there. No. But jokes like this are supposed to work on a level where you juxtapose two analogous things and the comparison between the two is immediately striking. By positioning them in contrast with each other, you reveal how similar things are

treated differently. For instance, you can look at historical sentencing trends between crack and cocaine, or sentencing trends between white and black people who commit similar crimes, and by doing so, you reveal a hidden truth about society. Right. That's kind of what Owen thinks he's doing here by saying that when Putin chooses to close a pipeline, it's bad, but when Biden does it, it's good. But the problem with this is that these aren't analogous situations.

What Owen is referring to is the Keystone XL Pipeline. This is a private company, TC Energy, that had applied for a permit to build this pipeline and were rejected by Obama in 2015. Trump invited them to try again and he approved it, and then Biden withdrew the permits when he became president. That raw sand oil from Canada will still make its way to refineries in the U.S., but it won't be done with this pipeline that endangers surrounding areas with spillage and all sorts of other concerns.

As for Putin, he's threatening to literally cut off oil supplies to areas of Europe that rely on that oil to provide essential services. This is not a matter of convenience and profit, like with the Keystone XL. Indeed. It's a situation where someone is actually restricting access. These situations are so completely different that Owen's joke is confusing as a statement. The way that this can be construed is funny is if you imagine that Owen is doing a

character who's a parody of his own ideology meant to highlight how superficial their understanding of issues is and how they celebrate their own willful ignorance. But it's not that. Owen is just dumb and his understanding of this stuff is superficial and he celebrates his own willful ignorance and expects an audience to applaud for it. It's really bizarre. I mean, like the only thing that you can really, if you understand the subject that's being discussed, right?

The only conclusion you can really take away from the point of that joke is I like Putin and I don't like Biden. Right. That's basically it. Yep. It's very weird. Yeah. I mean, I know people think that comedians are stupid and for good reason.

We've earned it. Many are. Yeah. No doubt about that. But what we do is think very, very hard about what we're going to say on stage, regardless of how your intelligence is beyond that. And so people who you might think are like enabled to do long division are still capable of coming up with intense insights through this medium by focusing on something very,

very well and understanding it totality in its totality. Right. And through trial. You know, like trial and error is such a large part of being able to deliver jokes. And basically what you're seeing here is somebody who's not respecting the idea of doing standup. Yeah. Because you have like a joke like this. If you were, if you thought it made sense and you went out to open mics and tried it

a few times, you didn't get a response. You might just start questioning like, why is, does it not make sense? Yeah. Is there something I'm missing about this? And then just sort of instinctually you try to figure a way to readjust the things that you're saying, figure out how to tell the point that you think you're trying to make in a different way to elicit a response from the audience because they will then understand what you're saying.

Yes. I mean, just beyond the more elevated ways of looking at how comedians write jokes. Here's a simple one. If you think you have too many words, you have three times as many words as you should. And I mean, he needs to get rid of 90% of his words. Much like with the documentary. Yeah. Trim it down.

Trim it down. So you hear about this pride parade? I forgot that's what he went for. You hear about that stuff? Immediately after Dead Silence. Y'all hear about this pride parade? Yeah. He has some thoughts.

He has some thoughts. Okay. If you did anything that they do at these gay pride parades, have you seen this stuff? Yeah. Have you seen this stuff? If you think that going one of these things is going to want to make your kids gay, I think you got another thing coming. I think they're going to be scared to death of clowns or something the rest of the party.

I don't really think it's a sex thing. Or imagine you walk into a baseball game and there's a drag game story time show going on with your six-year-old son and your son says, Daddy, I think I just want to play golf now. I understand, son. I understand. So that's an interesting attempt at a callback to the earlier joke about Saudi Arabia buying golf.

Right. Which I admire him trying. It didn't really land as well as I think he wanted it to. He did at least attempt a callback, which is second belt. It's yellow belt level. Yes. Now there's an entirely flawed premise in this joke. That is that he's contradicting his entire worldview that is going to these pride parades

attempt to make kids gay. Right. That is their whole grooming thing. That's the idea. Yes. Yes. So you're negating everything that you say not on stage. Yes.

In order to, I guess, call people at pride parades clowns. I suppose. Is that the joke? Is the joke about how the people at the pride parade are clowns? Well, there's one point and that is that you couldn't get away with the stuff that they get away with, which is just the victimhood and persecution complex. I mean, expression. Yeah.

But he's not even really like what get away with what shut up. Yeah. Well, that's the way into the joke. Sure. Sure. Sure. I see that. I see that.

And then yes, it's not a sex thing. They're clowns. You'll be afraid of clowns because everyone looks like clowns. Uh-huh. And then baseball is too gay. I mean, really? That's you. You're going to say that you're you've thought about this, your own Troyer.

And then after you thought about it and said it on stage, you decided to post this the internet so other people could see it. And let me be clear. The only reason I'm treating this this way is because it's a labeled Owen Troyer standup special. It's not your fault. It's an attempted standup. Yep.

And these are bits. Yep. This isn't something that he's just talking off the dome. Nope. These are, there's a callback there. Yep. There's joke structure in some of these things that he's saying. There is preparation as shitty as it may be.

Yes. And that's why I'm treating it. I mean, there's more preparation for this shit than there was for the trial. Probably. And so that's why that's why I'm giving it the business in terms of treating it like it's someone trying to do standup because it is. Stay out of our fucking world, Owen. If you want to walk in here, you're going to have to learn how to write a joke.

But at the same time, I would like to make clear that I have given it up on a couple of occasions where there's like, okay, this is like the Biden. Sure. This guy's not black because he didn't vote for Biden. Absolutely. That's a fine joke. The, the flight of fancy about Hunter buying a camera to film a crack deal. Right.

Had potential. Right. I'm not, I'm not saying none of this works. Sure. I'm just saying almost all of it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

No. And I mean, it's just, you know, like you're, you're taking a very good supportive tack towards the way, and this is kind of how we treat young newer comedians differently as we both, uh, aged and stand up. I did my best to, uh, it disencourage anyone from ever trying to, to do, I've focused on all the bad jokes. I really went into your face. I was like, this is why this is bad.

I have no idea where you're getting the idea that I was supportive. I'm just kidding. I wanted to hide from everybody. Don't talk to me. Um, so we've won last, uh, joke here. Like, uh, like I said at the beginning, open strong, close strong, right. You can get away with a good deal of this meandering nonsense in the middle. Yeah.

If you come in with like just burning the house on fire and then a closer, if your closer is 10 minutes and it's really good, you can do a bad 20 in the middle and you'll be fine. And I guess we, I would say that his opening was weak because it was mostly that Biden cancer chunk. Yeah. You know, yeah. And I don't think that really played.

Um, so here's the, despite the sounds, strong stuff, con cements. That's what it's all about. There's a little cartoon that always sticks with me and it's with aliens. They come down and they say, take me to your leader and the humans walk out with a television as the TV is our leader and, uh, it's Calvin and Hobbs, man. They haven't made those shirts and they love their leaders and they see on TV. But I was thinking, you know, that's not us, right? That's not us.

Somebody shows up and says, take me to your leader. We don't hold the television up. We don't hold false idols up. Somebody says, hey, take us to your leader. We hold the Bible up. Well, if that was, if that was odd, oh my God, that's the funniest thing he's ever said. Well, it certainly elicited the largest response from the audience of any of the things, any

of his bits. Yeah. No, the problem is he meant it. That's why it's there. It's a sincere, um, sort of, uh, expression. It's like a, uh, someone saying like at the end of their set, like, let me be serious for a minute. Yeah, totally.

Except there isn't the misdirective. They're coming. There's a joke after the seriousness. No, he's just saying this. Yeah. And then incidentally, the funniest thing that he's ever said, I can't imagine a funnier thing to think than like if aliens come down to earth and ask you to take you to their leader, you hand them the Bible.

What kind of insane worldview is that where you're like, not only am I not joking about that, but all of these people are going to clap and scream how great I am for doing that. That is amazing. This, this is Owen's closer to, and what is that except an expression of virtue signaling to Christianity? I mean, it's literally the Bible being virtue signaled to aliens, two alien Calvin and Hobbes out of your mouth. Oh, and there is nothing he should have done to take me to your dealer.

Oh, nice. There's 20. There's nothing about this that is an attempt to being funny. Nope. But just demonstrating your virtue to an audience and them applauding for it. This is exactly what like he has gone on rants, people on info wars, the Jordan Peterson's of the world. I'll talk about this being the cancer of the left and how they approach being fun.

They're killing humor. Oh, yeah. Look at this bullshit. Yeah. No, it's doing the worst version of all the exact same things. Yeah. I mean, this is really, really tragic. This is tragically bad.

Yeah. The problem is the problem is this is a man who is posting that video. Well, someone did. Yeah. Someone did. Someone chose. Well, I guess he allowed it. I mean, I assume if I had if I had that on my record, it would be gone.

I would be telling you and I would talk to the I would talk to the producers of the show. I have talked to producers of the show in the past who recorded it. And I told them, don't play this because I am embarrassed of how bad it is. This has happened to me in the past. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I think that Owen should have, but like it's clicks, man, you know, you'll get some clicks. Oh, that's not how I want them. No. So anyway, I thought we could use a little bit of a momentary breath of something different than the trial and the documentary is a delight to talk shop. So I think that I don't know. I don't think Owen's getting JFL. I'll say that.

I agree. I honestly think that based just on talent and merit, that wouldn't even fly at a bad local show. No. In Chicago. Nope. That would be that would have that would struggle to get a response at an open mic. And I think that another thing to recognize is the hubris of doing 18 minutes.

18 minutes. If you're Owen. 18 minutes. Mm hmm. 18 minutes, Dan. Yeah. How many producer stories do both of us have along the lines of somebody's like, um, so I've got 40 minutes of material I really want to go up on your show.

It is my first time doing stand up comedy, but I know it's going to be great. Yeah. Yeah. This is that. Yeah. Yeah, this is that. And it's bad. Yeah.

You there's a there's a hubris to not recognizing that stand up is something like boxing in as much as like it seems like a shorter time than it actually is. Yes. 18 minute round is a lifetime in the boxing ring and a five minute set is tough to fill if you care about it being good entertaining for the people you're talking to exactly at 18 minutes is a fucking lifetime absurd. So Jordan, we have seen the Cuck destroyer destroy stand up boy. Has he been cucked and we'll be back with something else.

Who knows when? Oh, surprising periodic downloads. We're like Rogan. We're here. We're everywhere. You can't turn away from us. Morning. Evening.

Texas freedom. But yeah, we'll be back. But until then, we have a website and do we do it's knowledge fight.com. We're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's at knowledge. We're fighting. I go to bed.

Jordan. Yep. We're also. Well, we'll be back. I'll be home. Look, we'll be back. But until then, I'm Leo. I'm Leo.

I'm DZX Clark. I hope you all have a wonderful, dreamy, creamy summer. And now here comes the sex robot, Andy and Kansas. You're on the air. So, Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.