Knowledge Fight - #718: August 21-22, 2022

Episode Date: August 26, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on Alex's show to see how he responded to the news of a car bomb killing Aleksandr Dugin's daughter.  He has a few thoughts, but more importantly, Elon Musk tweeted something. Dreamy Creamy Button Fundraiser

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George. Knowledge fight. I need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding us. Hello Alex. I'm a Christian. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. Knowledge fight. Knowledge fight. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes. Sit around, worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are. Dan. Jordan. Dan. Jordan. Quick question for you, buddy. What's up? What's your bright spot? My bright spot today, Jordan, is the button stuff. Yes.

I may have underestimated the demand. Bright is the sun. It is very bright. The number of buttons suggests very large brightness. A lot of requests. You know, it's hard to not just still be in the same headspace of like, we're just doing a podcast on my desk. Well, see, we haven't moved. Right. Yeah. Yeah. We're still in the exact same place. There's still nobody like else working on the show. It's still just us. So like the day to day of this feels kind of the same. Well, there were 40 people listening and we did it like this. And now there's more and we're still doing it like this. So how would we know? Yeah. And I, you know, I just can't conceive of the fact that there are like a ton of people listening. And so in my head, it's still that same thing. Right.

And so yeah, even compared to the last time we did this, it's a massive, I don't know. I don't even feel like I don't even feel comfortable saying that there are a lot of people listening. I feel like it makes us hubristically in trouble. It feels, it feels weird, but I appreciate the interest in these buttons. Yes. And I should tell you, Jordan, one thing I'm noticing from the early reports, yeah, we may have exploded in Scotland. I don't know what it is. Finally, we cracked the Scottish market. Dan, I have been waiting to get my chance at the Fringe Festival for decades now. This might be it. Oh, I'm there, baby. Yeah, that was a trend that I was noticing. And Washington is staying strong. A lot of interest from Washington. Washington State or the man?

Both. Okay, good. Also, Washington, the concept. Look, okay. That didn't land. They said you landed it the way it landed. That's let's be happy. So here's the situation that we have in front of us. Too many requests too many. I cannot handle much more. So we are closing the requests Friday, end of day Friday, end of day Friday. So this episode's coming out on Friday. Today you are listening to this is the last day to get requests. Let's call it. Let's call it 0000 Greenwich Mean Time. Sure. Yes, I will set the clock on my Gmail account to Greenwich Mean. Yes, I think that's the way to go. So get those requests in if you want to have them. And I'm sorry to people who are listening on like who are behind, but there's just nothing I can do about

that. That's that's ridiculous. Yeah. And another thing I wanted to say was that a lot of people have this is something that happened last time too. And it's very kind of people. A lot of people are requesting to help with postage and stuff. Of course, particularly these Scots and other international walks. Right. Right. And that is very appreciated and nice. But I like to do this as a gift to people. And so I, you know, there's no need to donate. There's no need to give anything. But if you do feel so inclined to, because I also don't want to be disrespectful to people's generosity. Obviously not. We have started another GoFundMe. This one benefiting the Transgender Law Center. It is over on GoFundMe. A little button theme to it. Let's put a button on the

Dreamy Greenwich Summer. The pun was too good, my friend. All right. I knew it. I knew it. So we've got a link to that. We'll put it up in the show release today. Excellent. Yes. Item number 7000 in the case against us being good with money. Yes. Yeah. There we go. Yeah. It would be great if you wanted to chip into that donation for a good cause. That would be lovely. How about you? What's your bright spot? My bright spot. That you're not making buttons? I offered my help, sir. True. Now, obviously with the knowledge that it would be rejected. I can't. Yeah. My bright spot is at Spock and Daw on Twitter sent me a bound version of my book. Yeah. With a beautiful cover and it was bound with love and inside it was actually my book. Yeah. It wasn't like a cover.

It was a dummy book. No. It was kind of surprising and amazing. And as a writer, I feel like the only way I can kind of express how I feel would be the word indescribable. I thought it was going to be through song. No. Nope. But yeah. It's incredible. It's something I never thought I would ever see. And it's a yeah. I told you this. Yeah. When that came in. Yep. I told you that for the last couple months, I have been planning to get you a bound copy. Yeah. I know. I am our friend Angela Lampsberry had designed a cover for it and everything we were just going to do it. You conspired against me. And I kept forgetting. And well, at Spock and Daw beat you to it. Right. And they also sent some empty notebooks that are really

cool for me. So thank you for me as well. Yes. Fantastic stuff. Indeed. Yep. So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. Excellent. Two of them. Oh, we're going to be talking about August 21st and 22nd 2022. All right. How do you do? Okay. These are Sunday and Monday. And the reason that we're going to this day is because Sunday evening in Russia time, which would have been during the day here. Alexander Dugan's daughter was killed in a car bombing. Right. Right. Right. And as we know, Alex is somebody who has had Dugan on his show and has been on his show in Russia. And so I think a lot of people are pretty curious to see how this was responded to. Sure. They might be underwhelmed. Have they ever not been? Yeah. So

we'll get into that here, Jordan. But first, let's say a little hello to some new wonks. Oh, that's great idea. So first, the Wayback Machine's faulty server. Thank you so much. You are now Policy Wonk. I'm a Policy Wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next. If you can pronounce Themysera, you can pronounce my name, Sarah. Thank you so much. You're now a Policy Wonk. I'm a Policy Wonk. Thank you very much. I'm not sure I can pronounce that. It's where Wonder Woman's from. Themysera. No, wait. What? So it might be. I don't know. Yeah. I can't pronounce anything. Next. Juice Pants. Thank you so much. You're now a Policy Wonk. I'm a Policy Wonk. Thank you very much. You nailed Juice Pants. Yeah, I can pronounce that. Nailed Juice Pants. Next. Smorgas

Buns. Guten tits. Thank you so much. You're now a Policy Wonk. I'm a Policy Wonk. Thank you very much. Next. Here I Thun Dubai. Thank you so much. You are now a Policy Wonk. I'm a Policy Wonk. Thank you very much. I had a phonetic explanation that I still think I got it wrong. I understand. Next. Help. I think my cat's homophobic. Thank you so much. You are now a Policy Wonk. I'm a Policy Wonk. Thank you very much. I assure you they're not. Yeah. Next. And we had a technocrat in the mix. Next is a technocrat. Look, we're a little bit behind. Hey, it's going great. We're a little bit behind on these, but Carissa, happy fourth anniversary from Marcus. There it was. No little breakies for us. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a Policy Wonk. I have

risen above my enemies. I might quit tomorrow, actually. I'm just going to take a little breaky now. A little breaky for me. And then we're going to come back. And I'm going to start the show over. But I'm the devil. I got to be taken out of here. Fuck you. Fuck you. I got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you in your new world order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit. Maybe today should be my last broadcast. I mean, maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again. That's really what I want to do. I never want to come back here again. I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. I'll be better tomorrow.

He's not. Oh, happy anniversary. I appreciate the anniversaries because, you know, with so many anniversary requests for a lot of people, they're like, oh, I know when it's going to come. You know, it's going to come on the day of our anniversary. But in this case, it's a surprise to both of you. You know, you never know when we're going to give wish you a happy anniversary. No. Yeah, you might have been expecting it to come months later. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it's always a shock. Yep. So here we start and Alex does get to the news of the car bombing right out of the gate. Alexander Dugan has been on our broadcast before. I've been on some of his shows in Russia and he is a Russian nationalist, not a fascist,

as our corporate control media has said. And in the lead up to this open proxy war with the Russians in Ukraine, you could pull up the news articles with Republican and Democrat senators and others like Lindsey Graham calling for the assassination of Vladimir Putin and people like Alexander Dugan. So Alex is telling on himself a little bit in the way that this defense of Dugan begins with him saying that Dugan's been on his show and Alex has been on Dugan's broadcast in Russia. Well, this is a person who likes Alex and Alex likes him. And by definition, Alex doesn't like fascists and they don't like him. So Dugan couldn't possibly be one. That's simple. He's just a good old fashion nationalist. I mean, except that Alex does like fascists. Yeah, quite a bit. Yeah.

In reality, Dugan is an ultra nationalist and someone who's staunchly in favor of a return to Russian imperialism. I don't want to quibble about whether or not his ideas would strictly be called fascistic like in an academic setting. It's fair enough to say that he's pretty much in the ballpark. You know what? When you go with warmonger and fascist, I really don't feel like there's that much of a difference at the end of the day. And there are distinctions, but I know what you mean. Yeah. For those who have not heard the news on Sunday, August 21st, Dugan's daughter Dario was killed in a car bomb attack while leaving an event she attended that night called tradition. In the aftermath, Russian intelligence has blamed forces from Ukraine while Ukraine has

denied all involvement. Others have suggested that the attack was carried out by fringe groups within Russia or possibly even the Russian intelligence services themselves. Sure. Ultimately, it's very much unknown at this point who did it. And it may be something that's never really nailed down concretely. We may never know. I here's what let's let's like just back up and let's spread out and let's take a larger view here. I'll tell you who did it. Someone who declared war. Someone who is up to no good. That's what I would suggest is if you declare war who did it a car bomber. I mean, well, yeah, but I mean, if Putin declares war and then bombing start happening, it's like you're at war, man. Like you earned it. That's how it goes. I feel like you don't get to

be mad about it. I can see your perspective. I'm I'm I'm less interested in like from what I was saying. Sure. I'm less interested in that position of naturally more like who knows who did it. Oh, God knows. You know, like, yeah, that is going to be a discussion that a lot of people are having especially people like Alex. Right. You know, it's the was it this side or that side or whatever. What you're saying is the alls fair and love and war kind of. I mean, I'm not saying alls fair. I'm just saying that it takes two to tango. Sure. Sure. So I wanted to take this opportunity though here to call myself out for some of the coverage of Dugan back when he was on Alex's show, circa 2017. I'll stand by my statements that it was a really big deal that that crossover was

happening. But I think I probably was too credulous of the media stories that I was reading at the time that painted Dugan is being much more connected to Putin and the official government channels that he may actually be. I'm not entirely sure how much of that is real that like he's, he's, you know, really influential and how much of it is bluster. And if I were approaching the show the same way that I am now back then, I probably would have presented it a little bit differently. I still would have presented their collaboration is troubling though, because whether or not Dugan is closely associated with Putin, he's definitely associated with international far right extremists. In 2018, Lauren Southern posted an image of herself in Dugan meeting.

And this was back when Lauren was making completely fraudulent documentaries meant to demonize immigrants and was going on adventures to intercept migrant boats along with members of generation identity, a group with links to the guy who carried out the shooting at that mosque in Christchurch. Right. And also going on tour with Stefan Malinu. Right. Right. Right. What she refers to the good old days. Yeah, this wasn't her like meeting with Dugan and her now softer, like Glenn Beck in a sweater with Samantha BS rebrand. Right. Right. She's trying to pull off. Yeah. Fellow anti-immigrant agitator Brittany Pettibone was along with Southern for her trip to meet Dugan. Incidentally, Pettibone would go on to marry generation identity leader,

Martin Selner, whose home was raided after it was revealed that the Christchurch shooter had donated a disproportionately high amount to his group. Great. Weird, too, that a guy from New Zealand would make a large donation to a random bigot group in Austria without having any connections to that. Yeah, it's so odd. There are other connections, but even beyond that, the influence Dugan has had on a lot of the ascending far right figures is something that matters, given his belief set. As he wrote in his book, Foundations of Geopolitics, quote, it is essentially important to introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts,

actively supporting all dissident movements, extremist, racist and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the United States. Naturally. This is a book that's been promoted by people like Jack Basovic and Richard Spencer, who are probably not coincidentally figures who are working to introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity and encouraging all kinds of separatism. Yeah, it is weird how that worked out weird. Yeah. Anyway, the point is that it's still super fucked up that Alex feels this kinship with Dugan and that they've been on each other's show. But I was, I think in hindsight, a little bit off base with how connected I believed him to be

to Putin when I talked about him before. Sure. And he's not come up necessarily in any large way, but I've been meaning to address that right in some fashion. Well, I mean, it's regularly reported of him that he's the he's the he's the philosophical architect of the current Russian imperialist strategy. Yeah. So you could say that, you know, oh, he's well connected in the inner circle, but that's not quite the same thing as being socially and and so forth connected in that way. And it's tough to say, really. I've heard enough counter report of that. And I've also heard from some listeners who are in Russia, who or even just in the surrounding area, who have a very different take in terms of what his position is vis-à-vis Putin. Well, I mean, it's not hard

to think that we can attribute that to him and have it have nothing to do with him, actually. It's what is the difference between some dude writing that and Putin just being like, hey, you know, it's a good idea, fucking up America. Like it's not that complicated of a strategy. It's just going in there and wrecking shit. Right. Right. You know, it's it's the it's the difference between like being on the same page and someone like having your ear. Exactly. Yeah. There is a difference to it. Yeah, absolutely. Some of it is fundamentally the effect of it may be the same. Sure, sure. But yeah. So anyway, Alex is mad at the media coverage. Of course. Of this story. And it's because people are suggesting maybe it was a false flag.

And that's Alex's turf. So the idea that in the Moscow suburbs, less than a day ago, his daughter driving back in his car, he was another vehicle, the idea that he or Putin would blow up his own daughter is preposterous. But the London Telegraph, the BBC, U.S. News, they're running the headlines. It's a false flag. So I supposedly lose 40 something million dollar rig lawsuits for questioning events, saying they could be staged or fake or the system targeting itself. But on a Telegraph and others can say it. Whoa, Nellie. Just don't talk about it anymore. Why is this complicated? I don't know. It's insane. I can confirm that at least the Telegraph suggested that the the attack was possibly a false flag meant to incite the

public into sporting further hostilities in Ukraine. I'm not sure if that was the widespread media theory. And many folks who are actually suggesting that the attack might have been carried out by Russian actors have specifically speculated that it could have been the work of a group unaligned with Putin. Right. Right. Right. Right. Somebody who's some dissident within Russia. Let's take a let's take a crack at somebody that we think is a target. Yeah. There are a number of suggestions that people have had and the argument that Alex is making where it's like a lot of people are coming out and saying that it was Dugan blowing up his own daughter. Right. Right. Right. That's I don't know how I don't know how widespread a belief that is.

It's just fundamentally of where it's unfair. Alex doesn't get to say shit right now. That unfair. It's yeah. I mean it falls a little on deaf ears. Yeah. And he isn't getting sued for suggesting that something could be a false flag or for questioning an event. If that were possible, he would be getting sued every day. He defamed people, which isn't the same thing. Also, I'm not sure what defamation laws are like in Russia, but based on the U.S. standard, Dugan and his daughter are definitely public figures. So talking about the possibility that the attack could have been a false flag wouldn't rise to the level of actual malice required to be defamation against them. Just one of the reasons why Alex doesn't get sued for all the shit he talks

about celebrities and actually public figures. Yeah. So I wouldn't I wouldn't worry too much about the defamation laws in Russia. You know, it's their laws currently are on the more like if we want to get you, we got you kind of side of the the justice thing, you know. Yeah. It's defamation might be handled differently. It could be could be. So the Russians, Alex has been monitoring how the news reports are going there naturally and they are not happy. Okay. Well, why would they be looked at the national Russian news? They're hopping mad at Putin. They're pissed at a suburb can be bombed and that this journalist and talk show host, his daughter was also very prominent. Daria

Dugana. I guess in Russia, they add a when the last names to a feminine. Sure. The father Dugana is the blown up daughter and while they're saying Alexander Dugan blows daughter up and no proof. But that's okay. There's their mainstream media. The truth is you're allowed to question anything you want. You can say his daughter in debt if you want. Maybe you're wrong. Maybe you're right. The point is, is that you have a right to question. They have a right to put this out. They're just saying you don't have a right to question. They're right back. Stay with us. Alex seems to be making this about himself a little bit. I was going to say that the number one thing that I should have expected was that this is about Alex and somehow I was still like,

like so many of our listeners. I was like, I wonder what Alex's thoughts on this are. No, I knew what they were. They were. Alex was right about everything. It's strange too because Alex is the victim. Yeah, because really the the actual bombing right seems like something Alex could use to be like nationalists or under attack everywhere. It's a sweet spot for it right there. But instead it's about the media coverage because he can relate it to himself. I know it's very it is sad. Yeah, it is sad. Whenever he feels defensive, it always comes back to him and he's got material to work with on this and therapy. Well, he's definitely got that to work through. I think that, you know, mental illness works in a certain way and sort of behavioral patterns

and issues. And once you become sort of beholden to them and they control you things become a little less interesting. And Alex's narcissism is definitely he's taken over. Yeah. Yeah. So speaking of that narcissism, but he was clearly the target because he's the populist of Russia. He's the Alex Jones of Russia and mainstream news has said that over the years. I'm sorry, what Russia the populist, the popular talk show host that has like half the country tuning into him. He's dead. His daughter's dead. They want to make sure he dies. The globalist have the motive to kill him. Do they? No, Alex is describing himself once again. The globalist wants to kill me through Alexander Dugan. Not only is he like Alexander Dugan is

a target, but it is also that Alex is a target through Alexander Dugan. And in fact, the globalists were trying to send Alex a message that anyone can be got. I believe. I mean, why would the globalists in Alex's conception have the motive to do this? It doesn't make sense. Like it's like obviously they don't want Russia in Ukraine. Sure. So according. Do they? No. Okay. No. They want the Ukraine to join NATO. Sure. Sure. Sure. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. So they want even Russia out of Crimea. Right. Right. Right. Right. Out of the Donbass. They want to get rid of Putin entirely. They want him assassinated. Exactly. The whole thing. And so do you think that working towards that end, do you think it's progressed by bombing someone who's seen as an

associate of his? Right. Like, is it something that where Putin's gonna be like, oh, shit's too hot now? Sure. Sure. Sure. Maybe it was a dry run. Maybe they're checking their oceans 11ing like a practice. I don't see that. Can we car bomb anybody? Like how do we car bomb? You know? I think that's. And now I'm gonna throw this one out. That's a tough one. I'm gonna throw this one out at you. And I feel like a lot of people are gonna laugh at me, but I'm gonna have to go with IRA. They have a proven track record of this type of thing. Talking about steak knife. I'm just saying that it's it's in their wheelhouse. And maybe they just got a little bit bored. You know, the troubles haven't been as hot lately. Well, according to Alex,

that's all the globalists. That's right. Damn it. Yeah. So they hired IRA mercs. Now it all makes sense. Yeah. Now it's all covered together. I guess when your explanations are hyper simple, they always fit. They do. They do. So look, this is not a false flag. And Alex explains why. Okay. And you could say maybe Putin did this because he knows Dugans are big nationals to get Russians behind the war. Except if you know the climate in Russia, they're angry. The average Russian in the polls like 90% that Putin isn't doing more in Ukraine. And that's why the population there pushed Putin into responding to the NATO proxy war that's been going on for eight, almost nine years that George Soros Braggs, he helped orchestrate.

Isn't that actually an argument for why Putin could have done it? Yeah. Because then you would have a pretext to do the thing that the people want him to do. Right. Yeah. I mean, if he could, he, the FSB blames it on the Ukrainian actors, the Ukrainian terrorists. Well, then guess what? Right. And that Alex is convoluted here. This makes no sense. I mean, this is, this is the problem because just yesterday, I mean, on our last episode, we're talking about Alex saying, I pigheadedly did something precisely because other people told me not to do it. And we're seeing an example of him just being like, I'm not going to call it a false flag because they called it a false flag. How about

that dick wads? And it's not fair. And doing it would require calling it a false flag would require him to say that like Putin is willing to do something like that. Sure. Sure. And then he'd have to admit that Putin has done something like that. Well, while he was saying that Putin wasn't going to invade Ukraine right before Putin invaded Ukraine, right? Alex was saying that Russia never does false like not once. It's true. So that he can't go back on that. Yeah. Yeah, but that's that's your moment. That's your moment to really pull it out and be like, surprise, this is the first Russian false flag. Nah, okay. So maybe it's false flag. Maybe it's not who knows. But true. Everybody should be able to ask questions. But he's not just say this briefly.

We're going to come back and talk about this more. I don't think this is a false flag. But the CIA had things like Operation Northwoods, where CIA operatives and their families would get on the plane with one tail number. They'd blow up another plane with the same tail number. Those families would all just change their names and use that as a pretext to go to war with Cuba and then Russia. Sure. Look up Operation Northwoods, ABC News, NBC News, they well covered it. So these things exist. Did he stage the death disorder? Is she still alive? Did she change her name? I'm sorry, what? That's the case. But you have a right to say that. And you have a right to speculate. And that's what all these lawsuits against Info Wars, everybody you're about is

silencing that discussion. Robert Barnes is coming up to cover the water. No, good Lord. They have real disappointing end. But this is evidence that that is true. Well, Alex is describing a true thing. You can question this exact thing. That is the evidence that we are experiencing is that the telegraph did question this thing. So you are not being sued. Thus we can concretely prove that it is not for this reason that Alex is being sued. Well, Alex is also bandying about ideas that maybe she faked her death. And no one cares. No one cares. No one cares. Yeah, if she did fake her death, that would be that would be an interesting conspiracy. Yeah. I wait. I look forward to Alex bringing that out around the

midterms. Maybe maybe distract from something. Maybe she just wanted emancipation from her dad, but she couldn't get it in Russia because he's too closely connected to Putin. Now she's free. That could be. I think so. So we have one last clip here from the 21st from Sunday. Okay. As Alex said, Bobby Barnes. We're not doing Bobby Barnes. He comes in and rolls solo. Alex leaves. Alex is just in for like the first segment or two of the show. Great. But he explains a little bit about his bankruptcy here. And I think this is pretty interesting. All right. Let me talk about the lawsuits against us. There are dozens of types of bankruptcy. We've done chapter five, which is reorganization, survival for a business that a business can continue on and quote pay its

debts. In the last few hearings, this is going to be coming out. They have the plaintiffs lawyers and Soros's lawyers with the big law firm out of Houston in the meetings saying we want it seized and shut down. We don't want the money. And of course, federal law says the judge is supposed to keep it going quote for the creditors, but they don't want money from judgements. You understand? And we knew they do that. We're showing that right now. That's why as long as we have solvent numbers to pay the employees, keep the lights on, run the operation, the federal judge will look at that for a year and then say, okay, for the next five years, here's what you can pay. And that's what they get. And we stay on air. Federal courts already seen my books. They know I haven't paid

myself in a year and a half. They know I've injected $10 million, everything I got into this operation, all the emergency savings. Have they seen your real books? And the court's eyes are getting real big right now in these meetings where they're like, we want them shut down. We want their no, we don't want money for electricity. We want it closed. You're like, wait, your creditors, don't you want money for the plaintiffs? The families are nothing but puppets they're using and controlling. I'm sorry. But that's what this is all about. And they will not silence us if you simply buy the products at infowarstore.com. Wow. So that might be a new defamation. I mean, how do you not play that in the we need to shut them down hearing part of like, hey,

this is never going to stop. This is just never going to listen to this. This was yesterday. Guess what? I'm going to, I'm going to call it now. I'm going to call my shot within the next week. I will have another clip for you of him breaking these rules. I'm calling. I'm pointing to the left field fence, man. Maybe by the end of this episode. Exactly. So I don't know everything about bankruptcy law, but from everything I can tell, this is not a plan that's going to work for Alex. For one thing, chapter five is only available to businesses that have less than $7.5 million in debt. And if he's trying to bankrupt free speech systems, they owe like $50 million to Alex's dad's shell company. And the judgment in the Sandy Hook case, the first one exceeded that amount

already. Additionally, this debt limit only applies if 50% or more of the company's debt is business related, which doesn't include defamation judgments. Also, the only reason that the cap is 7.5 million, as opposed to the original limit that this sub chapter had, the original limit was 2.75 million. The only reason that's different is because of the CARES Act, right? Alex was staunchly against. Of course. Chapter five is a sub chapter of chapter 11 bankruptcy or the reorganization bankruptcy. It seems pretty clear to me why Alex chose this route. And it's because chapter five bankruptcy cases specifically do not require a business to file a full disclosure statement to the court. Oh, that would make sense. Yeah. Let's choose the

one that lets us hide our lies. Yes. Because the thing is that chapter five, they were, it was created because chapter 11 normal bankruptcies require all kinds of information. And small businesses were what chapter five was made for. Sure. And they were in a position that like usually are ill-equipped to handle the intricacies of a normal reorganization. Right. Under chapter 11. Part of their debt is that they can't afford an incredibly expensive accountant to help them actually do the stuff that they're supposed to do. Yeah. Yeah. Too often small businesses weren't able to take advantage of what they could get with a chapter 11 reorganization and they just end up going out of business. So this was an attempt to provide an option for them

to stay afloat. Right. Alex is basically attempting to abuse the bankruptcy system. And while he's doing it, he's using the illusion of his persecution to sell his dumb products to the audience. The good news is that he probably doesn't qualify for chapter five. And as this progresses to the court, we'll see what happens. But I don't think that based on what I can find, I don't think that he is, this is going to work. I mean, sometimes I really do think I understand that the court system does work slow and needs to, but God damn it. For this case, I really feel like every day you should go in, you should play the judge a clip and be like, see this options off the table that he said it, right? Done. Okay. Then tomorrow you bring in a clip like we should have this whole

thing banged out in like a week. Well, actually chapter, the chapter five subsection or subchapter is designed to be faster. Right. So there is that. There is that. At least still go faster. Right. How many chapters are there is a question I guarantee Alex has asked and then asked, can we just keep using them? Can I write another one? Yeah. Can you, how about another chapter? So we get to the 22nd. We get to Monday's show. Okay. Because I felt like, well, we have not really even scratched the surface of, you know, the Dugan. No, no, no, no, no, we've scratched Alex's surface a little, but he's got to have more to say. You would hope there's big news coming today. Okay. Big broadcast ahead of Owen Shroyer, 3pm central, always informative on the war room.

All right. When we come back. So long time to break when we come back. Wait, why? Elon Musk has put out his most important tweet yet. Dear God. No, no, no, no, no. Can't handle it. I got to go. Oh, God. You know what it's like to turn on a show and hear that. I do now.

Okay. All right. Okay. 2022. Let's call it down. It's one thing if you're pretending to be like TMZ, and this is your lead, right? Then, Hey, that's what you are. That's you're a click baby. Oh, that's 43 tweets by Elon Musk. And this is today's. Yeah, whatever. But it's to be like, I'm the most geopolitically important person in the world. Oh man. Everybody, world leaders listen to me. Oh, Elon Musk had a good tweet. I mean, can you think of Edward R. Murrow being like, oh, the Rockefellers put out a chalk drawing on the sidewalk. Like, what are you talking about?

Somebody said something pithy at a bar. It is the, Alex is the Algonquin round table of his time. That is true. So look, there's a lot of news. Sure. Not just the tweet. There's a lot of news. We have the execution assassination of Alexander Dugan's daughter when they were trying to kill him. What that really signifies, massive economy news, so much on the great reset. And more today, this is another broadcast busy day. I don't want to miss, but separately, here is the good news. Freedom is popular. This book with no advertising in the corporate media

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I hope he's happy about that. Hey, the Amazon charts are real at least. Not like the lies of the New York Times. Yeah. And then the second thing I was thinking about, he's not going to sign all these books, but if he does, he's going to be drinking while he does it. It's going to get progressively sloppier as he goes along. We need that flow chart to really show up. Yeah. I want the last book. It's just going to be like a scribble. It's just a black page. I kind of want to know, did someone edit it? That's what I want to know. The book? Yeah. But I mean, here's what I'm talking about. Right. He didn't even write anything. He didn't write it. According to what he said about it. Right. He dictated it supposedly, or at least he was grabbed from a show. Right.

Not even necessarily dictated. Just people transcribed his rant. Right. Right. Right. But they, they cut out the rambling. Right. There's no way that it's going to go that. I kind of want to read it just in case. I'm going to read it. It doesn't come out until the 30th. And so it's already rocketed to the top of the charts. It's the best. Kind of like how Alex's war was at the top of the charts. And then no one cared. Well, but at least that was true whenever nobody cared. Uh-huh. Yeah. Not even the New York Times. I'm going to guess no one's going to care when Alex's book comes out, but we will definitely cover it in great detail. Come on. Come on. And you know what I was thinking about doing? What? I was thinking about doing a great reset special. So what

I would do is I would take Alex's book, The Great Reset. Sure. Compare it to Klaus Schwab's book, The Great Reset. Well, word count. And Glenn Beck's book, The Great Reset. That's trouble. Try and see where we're at with the three of them. Where, where there's overlaps. Sure. Who's making up what? I, here's what I say we do. Um, first off, what we're going to do is we're going to cut out little passages from each book and then glue them together and then take that message and mail it to Alex. So it sounds like we're holding one of his children hostage. Ah, see. We're holding the ecosystem hostage. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. If you don't reset, we'll come get you. So, um, look, there's big news. Yeah. Musk tweet. Biggest tweet ever. It's big. Most important.

I know for a fact, and I told you this a couple of years ago that Elon Musk was riding the fence and that he decided to fight the New World Order. At least he told his top advisor is that and said he was going for a pro human future. South African white masses. What? And to fight the New World Order. Now, whether he's being legitimate or not, Christ says you judge a tree by its fruits. Look what Elon tweeted out yesterday. Got hundreds of thousands of retweets. Elon Musk. Here's the actual image. Please let me use the CERN Large Hadron Collider. I'm normal and can be trusted with the demonic technology. Unlike anything the world has ever seen. What is a demonic technology? Well, they admit they're trying to find the

God particle. All right. They admit they're trying to create artificial black holes and strangelets that create particles so strong it sinks the center of the earth and then creates a black hole that implodes the entire planet. Yeah. It's not a Star Trek movie. It's reality. So this is not an important tweet. It's basically Musk shitposting. Yeah. Also CERN isn't trying to create a black hole to implode the universe. And they found confirmation of the existence of the Higgs boson, a.k.a. the God particle 10 years ago in 2013. Decade ago. It's old. God particle was a great day. I was really excited. I watched the live stream. It was really, really cool. Yeah. Alex has not updated his talking points in quite a while. You know what else Christ said

of people similar to Elad Bus. You know, he was like, you know, it's easier for a rich guy to go through heaven that it's awesome. Rich people are the best. Come on in, buddies. I will make the head of the needle really large. He promises to have tons of white babies. Uh-oh. He opened the large Hadron Collider. Jesus, his words are different now. Oh no. Mandela effect. Yes. The Bible is entirely different. That's a Mandela effect. Is that a movie? I hope so. Wait, isn't that knowing? No. No, no, no. Okay. Quite different. So look, CERN dangerous. It blew up a few years ago the last time they tried it. Now they're doing. I'm sorry. What? Test again. You didn't hear? While they're doing the test, they're constantly doing satanic rituals

above ground on the facilities, acreage. So they had a helium leak in 2008. I was going to say, I mean, come on, I just don't understand how we could get to blow up. Yeah, it blew up. You don't even be, I can't begin to describe the news day. The Hadron Collider blew up. Yeah. Yeah. They are doing satanic rituals though. Alex is right on about that. Well, sure, but that's why it doesn't blow up. The satanic rituals keep it, you know, stable. Otherwise, you can't shoot particles that fast. Yeah. With great ritual comes great particle. We're gonna go with that. Yeah. There are all winners when I say things. Hey, listen, we can't all hit it to the left field fence. So there's big news. Yeah. My man Fauci. Yeah.

Dr. Faustus. Yeah. He has decided to resign. Good for you. All right, here it is. Dr. Fauci has issued his resignation letter after 40 plus years running different federal agencies, murdering people, walking treatments, engage in HIV rollout, the Wuhan lab, this murderous, discredited monster. This Hitler 2.0, this Bill Gates prosthesis. What? That's now resigned. What does that one mean? I'm announcing today that I've been stepping down from the positions of director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and chief of NIAID, Laboratory of Immunalization, as well as the position of chief medical advisor, the president, Joe Biden. I will be leaving these positions in December of this year to pursue

the next chapter. Getting some Arnold now. He now wants everybody to take polio shots again. That impression was so inconsistent. That was all over the place. That was all over the place. I got a name. How many do we get? I got Kissinger in there. But it was also like shifting mid-sentence. Right. He was trying to find his bearings and he didn't get there. Never found it. That's depressing from one of the greatest voice actors of our time who has offered the role of Optimus Prime. Everything. Everything. But then he criticized Obama and they said no. They couldn't let him be Star-Lord if you criticize Obama. That's science. Also, the CDC still recommends children get vaccinated against polio. Forever. Always. There are a number of people who don't take that advice

and most likely due to low vaccination rates in some areas, we recently saw the identification of a case of polio in Rockland County, New York. Exberts believe that if they're seeing one case, there is a very high likelihood that there are more people who have caught it in the area, but maybe asymptomatic, which is a terrifying prospect. The U.S. has a vaccination rate for polio of 93%, whereas Rockland County is at about 60. Anyway, this is not good and probably won't be the last we hear of this story, but let's hope for the best. Jesus. Alex is ready to handle the news of a possible resurgence of polio, though, since he'll just say that it's secretly COVID vaccine side effects being called polio. And then he'll fleece his audience selling them survival

food as he watches them get sick and die. This is kind of what his business model has largely evolved into after COVID. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't even have to just speculate on that. You know, we told you that climate was polio when you got paralysis from the poison shots and the record levels of heart attacks will be detailing next hour. So yep, it's just he's already ready. I think the number one thing I applaud Fauci for is retiring with dignity because I'll be god damned if I didn't quit that job with the single largest fuck you to America. Anybody's ever like nobody has earned the right to give the double bird on TV to the entire United States of America more than Fauci. It's he might have a

scathing book in the yeah, I would. I mean, just give up. That's the name of Fauci's book. Give up on hope. Yeah. So we get to the second hour of the program and Alex isn't there for the first break. They just play special reports, which happens from time to time. You know, it's not on the radio. Right. Who gives a shit? Yeah. Second segment starts and I noticed that it seemed that info wars had switched to an instrumental jazz format. Interesting. And now the works of Antonio Carlos Chopin is the most dangerous fact ever created by man. It is a save by the bed.

I was as confused as I've ever been. It goes on for a long time. Don't let's listen to all of it. I don't know what was going on there. There's some sort of a technical difficulty, but this is the feed that goes out on the radio. Let's all go to the lobby started playing. I love theater music on him. So I don't know what what the fuck was happening, but Steve Kersh is on Alex's anti-vex substack buddy. Is it not addressed? What? No, what just happened? No, I don't think Alex never notices. No, but there are further tech difficulties. Here we are. Steve Kersh joins us for the balance of the hour, but we do have numbers. We have insurance company numbers. We have government numbers. We have them all. He has

them all in his substack. He's going to lay out the facts that now even the CDC is saying, okay, the shot doesn't help. He doesn't protect you all over the world from Australia to Germany to the UK, to Canada, the U.S. They're showing that people that acted are way more likely to actually get sick. So their lives are coming out. There's a big thanks laying out for us. Well, it's just like I said on Fox News and, you know, Brian Digg, who was the host, was caught off guard. And so he said, well, we can't verify those numbers. Well, he was actually telling people the truth because Fox News has contractual commitments that don't allow them to speak poorly about the vaccine. So they can't say anything anti-vex on Fox News.

That skipping that you heard is on Alex's end. That was not our recording. So this is a fun semantics game that Steve is playing. The Fox News host, Brian Kilmeade, was pointing out that Steve's statistics are completely dubious and he can't prove that they're accurate and expresses that by saying we can't confirm that. Steve naturally doesn't want to accept that he, in fact, can't confirm any of the bullshit he spreads. So he's using the wording of this comment to create a broader conspiracy. Of course, you can't confirm this Brian Kilmeade. You're on the farm of payroll. Right. Right. Right. If Fox hosts can't be anti-vex, I wonder what happened with Tucker and Hannity and Fox and Friends sometimes. See, this is why we need to relax certain language

requirements for, for like TV hosts. In this situation, you can't say we can't confirm that. What you have to say is bullshit. Well, that's not Kilmeade's best interest. No, and I understand that, but I feel like it should be required. So I'm not sure what statistic Steve is talking about here because his sub-stack is full of posts claiming various bombshell things about COVID vaccines and all of them apparently rely on very legitimate data. I decided to consult one recent post with the headline, quote, Do you know how many people have been killed worldwide by their governments from the COVID shots? 16,000. It's around 12 million. Oh, that's 40 times the number of Americans who are killed

in World War Two. It's more than double the number killed by COVID. That seemed intriguing. Yeah. How was this number reached? You're probably asking yourself. That's my first question. Yeah. It seems like an even number first off. Here's how Steve got it. Okay. Quote, Margaret Ann Alice asked if anyone could estimate the global death toll from the COVID shots. In my opinion, a reasonable estimate is to divide the number of doses by 1000. If you do that for 600 million doses delivered in the United States, you get 600,000 deaths, which is right in the ballpark. No, no, no, no, no, no. You just, you just, he just said it. Yeah. That's not data. That was his basis for that number. And then you extrapolate that out to the world.

Right. Right. So I said that and that means it's true. Yeah. This is Steve expressing an opinion and then making a guess based on entirely nothing. This article is legitimately trash. Here's Steve synthesizing his point, which again is just about him guessing things based on nothing. Quote, we're killing an awful lot of people, but with world, but world leaders are looking the other way and saying nothing. Well, all of us watch the high number of death reports in the media of people who died quote unexpectedly and hear no explanation from the medical community or the CDC. We're supposed to trust that they have things well in hand, even though they won't appear on camera in front of anyone who doesn't have scripted, pre-approved questions. The vaccine

was never mentioned in any of these unexplained death reports, yet people all over the world have noticed that these unexpected deaths are only happening to the vaccinated. Hmm. I wonder why. And I would say what unexpected deaths are you talking about? There are any specifics offered in the article. So I don't know if I agree that there we even are seeing a huge number of unexpected deaths being reported in the media. You know what bums me out because this is really suspicious. Not one of these medical professionals. Can we even call them that is the first question, but not one of them will go on live TV in a pit filled with a hungry hyenas, not one of them. Now, why not? Dan, why not? And what are they afraid of, Dan? You're right. Exactly. I'm taken

aback by your logic. It's you. You can't deny it. Next total sense. It does. There are occasionally like celebrities who die with no immediate cause of death determined and then these anti-vax idiots rush in to pretend it was a vaccine death. But typically in all of those cases, a death cause is determined, but it's after people like Steve stop caring about the story. Yeah. Just use it for the immediate dopamine rush of like, Hey, get this. This person who you love was killed by Fauci. Right. Right. Right. It's hard to wait a couple of days to say that though, after the people have already figured out the actual reason. Yeah. Yeah. And let me be totally clear about this. Steve Kirsch is a lunatic. Yeah. This article also includes this passage.

Quote, we are approaching the 6 million Jews killed with the Holocaust over a period of 12 years. But we're killing people worldwide at a rate of at least six times faster than the Germans did. We're killing nearly close to 10,000 people every day. The latest rate was roughly 8.46 million doses a day. Interestingly, this is not self-limiting because 385,000 babies are born every day. So the killing can go on indefinitely, even if the birth rate drops by 90 percent due to the shots. In case you were wondering, I just thought I'd point that out. This is complete drivel. And it's a bit offensive to boot. I feel like we need to really hammer home that this, this obsession with comparing things to the Holocaust is Holocaust minimization,

which is a subset of Holocaust denial. That's the part I was saying was a bit offensive. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like there's a reason that they are so focused on comparing things to the Holocaust to make it feel like the Holocaust wasn't that big a deal after all. And that wasn't compared to vaccinations. Yeah, exactly. What? Yeah. So for one thing about Steve's logic here, 10,000 people aren't being killed by the vaccine every day. That's just shit talk. But beyond that, this supposed killing could not go on indefinitely, even if the birth rate dropped 90 percent, because the massive societal problems that would accompany that drop in birth rates would render 10,000 deaths a day a side issue. Yeah. Everything would be over. Yeah. I don't think, I mean,

just the devastation of everything daily. Crazy. Speaking of statistics, on August 20th, Steve posted a blog entry where he was begging people who work at hospitals to provide him with internal data about their numbers of deaths and ICU admissions based on vaccination status. This is probably illegal for them to divulge, but also whatever results he gets from this are completely meaningless. He's gathering data through the equivalent of a Google survey form where anyone could just enter whatever numbers they want and pretend they work at a hospital. Right. Right. Right. But also he's, he's sending out a Google survey form that says, please commit a crime. Yes or no. That is what he's doing. Yeah. But we're all pretending,

so it doesn't really matter. So it's not really a crime. I understand. But it's a pretend crime. Yeah. Yeah. This data collection form is apparently something he's been using for a while, but he's just now updated it so you can enter in hospital level data. Before you can enter information about your family and friends or your household and how many people were hurt or killed by vaccines in that subgroup. Sure. That's nice of him. It's probably a fair assumption that he's been treating the responses to this as actual data as opposed to him targeting a very strongly self-selected anti-vax community as potential responders to his survey and then having literally zero way to confirm any of the numbers people enter into the survey. That's what he's doing.

It's not data. It's like VAERS, but in Arkham Asylum. Yeah. What would he be? What would his villain name be? I don't know. I don't know. The substacker. That's not good. No, no, no, no. The blogger. No, that's terrible. So all of the information that he's putting out means exactly nothing. But it's the kind of thing that can be used to create an impression that it's something more legitimate and more scholarly than just apocryphal antidotes that the anti-vax community has. That's what they usually rely on, these anecdotal stories. Of course. And this is a way that he can sort of mold those anecdotes into numbers and it gives the appearance of it meaning something more than just a tweet. Well, off the top of my head, I would say that the way to treat

these fairly would be to take the total number of submissions and divide it by a thousand, and then that's the number that are accurate. Sure. Now, bottom line, this guy sucks. Yep. Bring back Dr. Marbles. I really appreciated him over this, pretty. At least that guy was unhinged in a fun way. Yeah. Calling for war and low bar, low bar. Yeah. Steve sucks. Yeah. Yeah. He's trying to explain to Alex here that the media is bought off and then something very statistic. Steve, something really tragic happens. Yeah. Explain to people that a whole bunch of media outlets got bought off of the contracts with Pfizer two years ago. Yeah. Well, we know that the White House has spent a billion dollars

on influencing media and giving money to media to promote these vaccines. And the drug companies, we don't know what the contracts say, but it's pretty clear that there was no interest at the time. Uh-oh. Hello. Have we lost the call? Sir? Have we lost the show? Hey, dude, dude, dude, dude. You got your wish. The jazz comes back. The jazz comes back, baby. You can't get rid of jazz. I don't know what was going on on this episode, but it was weird. Okay. This seems like a great time for Alex to bring up the time that Trump got that donation from Pfizer, right? Like, because we learned about that on our last episode. So, I mean, if you're talking about Pfizer conspiracies now, it seems like Trump being involved with that that

you admitted to. No, no, no, no. No, you just need that relevant information. Not, not right now. Oh, okay. This is a different thing. I do appreciate the lack of continuity. This clip is just dumb. And I'll see if you can figure out why I cut this. Because there's not enough jazz. No, this is, this is really like, keep your ears open. Okay. So even their own leftists now are waking up and I just look at Twitter, Facebook, everywhere I've been looking. It's just everywhere. People are saying, I'm paralyzed. My mom's dead. My kids paralyzed. I died. My husband died. What was, uh, what, why did I pull that clip? Um, I don't know. He's looking on Twitter and Facebook and everywhere. Someone tweeted, I died. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, okay. All right. All right.

I know he's just talking too fast, but it's funny. There is something about everybody's out there tweeting. I paralyzed my mom sick. I died. I mean, wasn't that what a Christmas Carol was really all about? If you're in the shadow realm, are you shadow band? Oh, um, no, I think if you're in the shadow realm, you actually get past the shadow band because you can move through it. Okay. The shadow band is like a door in the shadow realm. Like a regular human couldn't pass through the shadow door. So you're saying that all the most popular Twitter accounts are ghosts. Yes. Absolutely. Makes sense. Yep. So what is drill but a ghost? Steve has a story to tell my friend. And this is dumb. And we see people in plain sight.

I mean, I saw an Arab ambassador, he's speaking at a podium and he just drops dead. But we've seen that over and over and over again. Have we? The vaccines rolled out. So the way Steve is telling the story, it's very clear that the only thing he knows here is that he's seen a video on social media. Right. He has no idea who this person was or the circumstances depicted in the video at all. And the big tell is that he's calling him an Arab ambassador. Yeah. This was the narrative that took hold as the video traveled in anti vex circles online, but it's not correct. It was actually a Saudi businessman named Mohammed bin Nassar, bin was on Al Khattani, who was in Egypt for a conference. He was giving a speech and he collapsed, allegedly going on to die in another room as we will

attempt it to provide a. Okay. The cause of death here is not determined yet. And there's no evidence that Al Khattani was or was not vaccinated. All of this is just forced conjecture on Steve's part because it's more profitable for him to make this suspicious when it very well could have just been a heart attack. There's no reason to automatically be like, why aren't they telling us what's going on here? I can't get over the idea that we've seen this over and over. And I have not seen a ton of videos of people collapsing at podiums recently or in fact in my entire life. There haven't been that many. How many can you remember of just people collapsing at podiums in the middle of a speech? Well, I saw this one that Steve posted. Right. Well, that was the one. Yeah. I mean,

I, I, I'm even going to count George Bush having to duck from her shoe. I'll count that. I think I saw a cartoon once of somebody who was like in a debate club, like a kid who's in a debate club. All right. And you're rattling off the points and then he ran out of air and just collapsed. Oh, is that? Hey, Arnold, I think it might have been. I don't know. It's something in that sort of milieu. Ah, yeah. It's in the same part of my brain as something that might have been on. Hey, Arnold, I'm going to go with real monsters. It was not a real monster. It was a real monster. It was not. Okay. It wasn't Rocco's modern life. That's a good one, though. It wasn't Sifl and Ollie. No, no. It wasn't a cartoon. It wasn't Ren and Stimpy. No, no. I wonder,

I, I, you know what I need to do? What's that? I need to go back to some of that stuff and see if it's any good or maybe I shouldn't. Ah, no. Yeah. No, we, you stop smoking weed. You shouldn't go back. That's a good point. Yeah. You don't want to know what it's like without the, the assistance. So, um, Steve has these strategies in order to create his content. You have obviously this weird Google form that he wants people to fill out with information they very well could be making up Google crime form. Um, but then, you know, the old standby is obviously there's right. He misuses various data in order to make points and man, this is nuts. It's pretty obvious what is going on. There is no way to explain the various data, which is the vaccine adverse

event reporting system. That was my next question. You're the expert on this. I mean, interrupt you, but now you're getting into the data. Just give us the main data points you get that anybody can check. Yeah. Well, anybody can go to open veirs.com and there's something called the red box summaries. And if you go to that page at open veirs.com, go to the red box summaries and you flip the slider didn't David to show us only because it shows you by default. It shows you the worldwide numbers. You flip the switch to go us only to see around 14,000 deaths. Now, the problem there is that the 14,000 are under reported deaths. So because people don't report to the various system. And so it turns out that for every death reported to various, they're really

about 20. I'm sorry. I'm getting into the you're making it up. Why are you struggling with this? Yeah. All right. Now, I escaped that the death blow here. But yeah, if you look at the various numbers, you'll see 14,000. You need to multiply that by 41. Why? Okay. Sure. Great. See, there's under reported and this makes some sense for some side effects like maybe a headache, right? Because not everybody's going to report ahead. Why would you report a headache? nausea? Could be anything. Sure. Yeah. Death is a little different. It's hard not to report it. Yeah, because there's other people who are doing the reporting. You can't self report death. No, no, no, except for that guy who tweeted. That was I mean, all time tweet though. That was maybe his most important tweet

ever. Yeah, certainly better than muskstone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So there's I don't know. This is ludicrous. And there's no no defense of multiplying by 41 and the actual website that he's using the open fares. Yeah, it says on the bottom. These are not causal. Yeah. This is not causal data that conclusion cannot be made. There's a qualifier on the page. It does. Fuck yourself. Doesn't it add at the bottom? This is not causal, but you should multiply it by 41. What 41 and get a Google form. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, no, of course. He's a fan of a shit. Now I can't pull a song title. Some 41. That's what it is. Yeah. Uh huh. Yeah, scrolling to the party. See, there we go. I'm hanging out drinking in the back of an El Camino name another some 41 song

in too deep. Wow. Cause I'm in too deep and I'm trying to keep. Is that really what they sounded like? Yeah. Wow. Weren't they supposed to be like punk or something? They were. They were pop punk. Oh, those two things don't exist together. Yeah. Everybody does. Doesn't everybody know that that those two things can't be back and they can't. It works for a while. There was a guy named stevo in that band. And I always thought that was weird because he definitely was around after jackass. So he just took the name stevo. That's not fair. Yeah. And you should have to have stevo in your band or names himself. Steve or you've got to staple your balls to your leg. Wow. There's two options. Then your grandfather did on the name. Yeah. But you have to put sticks in there.

You're a drummer. God damn it. So respect. Look, there's another Steve who's not a Steve. Steve Kirsch. Now that's a different story. He has a he has a this is so stupid. Okay. So Alex, do you know how much Tony Fauci is making every time a Moderna shot is delivered into someone's arms? Tell me. Tell me he gets a taste. I know it's a lot. A lot. You see, that's the problem. So we have somebody who's directing this entire vaccination program who has a huge conflict of interest. You know, that there's just that is not something that should be allowed. No, of course not. We should know exactly how much he's making on these vaccines. And we're not allowed to know that. How much is Fauci making every time someone gets a Moderna

shot? Here's the problem. I don't know. When would he have negotiated a specific to him cut of each shot? Strange. When what contract would he would he have been a privy to? Plus, I thought Steve was like a stats and facts guy. This is meaningless bullshit. Why don't we know? Why don't we know how much of a taste Dr. Fauci is getting apparently by himself? Not like the CDC is getting a cut. No, no, no, just Fauci. This is just rampant speculation and insinuation. And if Steve was pressed on this question by a competent reporter, he couldn't even say that Fauci made a single penny when someone got a Moderna shot. Also, this conspiracy is internally stupid because here's where things break down. So Fauci is pushing these shots to get rich, which he's willing to

kill off 12 million people in order to achieve apparently 10,000 a day. Right. Yeah. He's so money hungry. He just doesn't give a fuck. Then why was the Pfizer vaccine the first one that was approved? Wouldn't he have stood to make way more money if Moderna was the first one out of the gate? And now that's too much scrutiny, too many eyes on you. You negotiate with the second tier. You don't want to get that rich. No way. If Fauci were really able to orchestrate this entire pandemic and the vaccine rollout and a big part of his motivation was money, why would over 130 million less doses of Moderna been administered than Pfizer? I'm sure the answer to this is that Fauci gets a taste of both shots. If you know it doesn't really matter, but this is dumb. Well,

and you got to figure that it's two shots for each vaccine. So he doubles that up. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the way you get it. And he gets even higher cut on the booster. Yeah. Why not? The margins? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. It's like once you've made back your advance. Yeah. Yeah. I got you. By all means, I would love for Steve to lay out whatever stock holdings he believes Fauci has or explain this nonsense, but he's not going to do any of that because he's just talking shit. It's easy to talk shit when you just make suggestions and insinuate guilt on people for fun. Steve spends a fair amount of this interview wondering why people won't talk to him or take him seriously. And this is a big part of why this shit flies on your dumb sub stack or

info wars. But if you try to go to the real world with it where words mean things, it's going to be a problem. And that's even like even Brian Kilmeade would let you play this fucking stupid game. No, I know you can't go like no one. Oh, OAN wouldn't allow you to be like, Hey, how much does Fauci get per vaccine? They might. Yeah. But I mean, that's crazy. Yeah. That's too crazy. Here you go to OAN. You should go to info wars. Maybe you go to Lindell's shit. Right. And that might be about where you peak. Yeah. Oh, wait. I think he was on Brett Weinstein's podcast. Okay. Well, we've all reached the pinnacle of our careers, I think. Yep. So Alex almost went, well, Steve's gone now. Yeah. Alex interviews another fucking COVID denier guy. And I'm just

like, I can't do this. I can't do two. We can't still be denying COVID. Yeah, again. No. I think it's because Alex is trying to ramp up with the Trump stuff. Sure. I think that that is like COVID is becoming front and center because the midterms are coming up and maybe he needs a way to like have narrative flexibility or whatever. Strategic flexibility. Yeah. Yeah. So I think that's maybe what's going on. Right. I'm not sure. So by ramping up, so I'm kind of feeling like by ramping up the vaccine talk, that gives Alex the wedge for the eventual or an uneventual push. Or conversely, it could be the kind of content you need to put out in order to get Trump to realize that he should join the anti-vaccine. Sure. Sure. Sure. So it kind of has multiple

applications. Man, he just does it. It's kind of interesting to me that he doesn't understand narcissism. Because ironically, there's no way Trump would ever do that. He feels proud of the vaccine for doing it. So in order for him to change his mind on that, he would have to take an accomplishment away from himself. Right. Which would be insane. Which would be one of the few things that he could say like, I more or less saved millions of lives. Exactly. Yeah. I mean, that's a legitimate thing that he, I mean, obviously didn't do. Instead like sentencing through his incompetence, millions of people to death. But it's still, you know, better than nothing. Yeah. I guess. Yeah. Can't take away the vaccine's existence. Yeah. Yeah. It happened

under Operation Warp Speed. Good on him for. Yeah. Yeah. I suppose. Yeah. And I can understand why, even if you weren't a narcissist, why you wouldn't want to not be proud of that. That one's kind of pretty good. Unequivocally, pretty good. But then if you're a narcissist, it's going to be like trying to get a ball away from a dog. No. Can you imagine? Actually, sometimes that's not that hard. Well, I mean, I'm talking about like, imagine if Richard Linklet, if Alex had to be like, I hated the movies that I was in. That would never happen. Or I hated my performance. Or I hated what happened. I think he talked shit on Linklater. No, I know he talked shit on Linklater, but not on his movies. You know, he wouldn't be like, I sucked in that movie. Yeah, probably not. Yeah.

It's hard to say. This is why you need to have a mentality of like, kill your darlings, that kind of writerly mentality. Yeah. Whatever these idols are, you tear them down. If you like something, get rid of it. Right. Yeah. You can't, you can't sit around and think about how great it was that you made that vaccine. No. Eyes ahead. Eyes ahead. Burn the boats behind you. Right. Yeah. You have to lick a toad and go out to the woods and break a copy of waking life ceremonially. Whatever you got to do, man. Spirit journey. Yeah. But I think, I think that there is a way, you know, you make an interesting point. I'm trying to find this sort of angle of like how you could appeal to a narcissist to get them to become anti-vax. Right. And I guess it really comes down to like

what you want, what that person wants. Right. Because if they're out for money or power or something, you could make an argument that there's more money and power on this side. True. True. But that's still, it does still run up against the like disowning your own achievement. I mean, yeah, that seems like the, the rock in a hard place kind of situation. Here's my pitch. And the way that Alex is presenting this is like you admit you were wrong. And yes, exactly. That's going to be, that's not going to happen. That's going to be a tough one. No, no, no. Here's what you do. All right. You get on a plane with him. All right. Hook him up to a machine that allows you to go inside his dreams. All right. You play Jean-Alain Regret Noir. All right. Then you go

another level deep inside of his dream. Are you following me here? I think so. Okay. Now, here's the crazy part. You have to have somebody build mazes for you. Why? Don't ask questions. Now, let me ask you this. What's that? Can I bring a top? Yeah. Okay. I mean, let's go. All right. So Steve leaves and Alex talks to that other anti-vax guy who I just, I was fighting sleep. Sure. Yeah. It's mostly about actuaries. Yeah. I'd rather rewatch Inception than that. Yeah. So after that, Alex sits down and wants to talk a little business, a little Bitcoin business, that Bitcoin donation that he got. Okay. And I wish I knew how tired the situation was the last few years. I knew it was bad, but I got lackadaisical. I

didn't focus on things. I didn't focus on bringing in money. We almost went really. That's what you think bankruptcy, but if we hadn't gotten that $8 million donation in Bitcoin by the time we cashed out a little bit less than eight million when we came in, it was like $9 million, but I waited to see if it go up and went down. Whoever that person is saying this because I didn't know we were, we weren't $3 million behind. We were $6 million behind. We were in solvent. My accountant told me right after we paid off the debts of $6 million and we bought $2 million a product. Oh my god. It's now coming in. But if we are good stewards of that, we can continue to be on air.

You talk about God working in mysterious ways. I mean, if you don't know there's a God, who, who is this unknown donor that literally knew my finances better than me and gave us exactly the amount that if we played the cards exactly right. But that's how God works. I wonder if Alex understands how much more suspicious that makes the donation look. I mean, good God. I know, I know it's God or whatever. But in the real world, this sounds like a fucking shady deal. Yeah. Also, based on his telling of things, it would seem that Alex doesn't qualify for bankruptcy. If he was $6 million in the hole, and then he paid it off with that divine donation, on what grounds is he declaring bankruptcy?

No, no, no. They're solvent now. So he's declaring bankruptcy. Wait, hold on. What? That seems odd. Yeah. This is some real televangelist shit right here. This is like the most amazing. Well, to be fair, this is something that Alex does from time to time. Oh, no. The money bombs always make exactly what he needs because it's God's will and whatever. Yeah. Yeah. That's the, that's the shit that the televangelists can do. Like I have two private jets, but they gave me just the exact amount of money that I piss out on a daily basis. Yeah. That keeps us going. It's fun. So look, all this money that Alex wants you to give him. Sure. Sure. He doesn't, he doesn't need it. I'm sorry. What? He could, he could start a podcast tomorrow.

He should have focused more on making money is what he just said. So now he's going to say that he doesn't need money. Well, but he does, but not for himself. Okay. I got you. And we're still here and they can't stand it. They have big show trials, thousands of articles, hundreds of TV programs. That's conservatively, thousands, conservatively programs, hundreds of thousands of articles. And now you've seen it. Like they're going to invade a country lying about us just to taint a jury, to try to win a lawsuit, to shut us down. They're not going to shut anything down. I can walk across the street and fire up a podcast that reaches the same amount of people today, but you won't have the Darren McBreens and the Greg

Reese's and all these incredible Adon Salazar's and the Kit Daniels and everybody else that writes the articles and reports and does all this other amazing stuff. We don't want them to shut us down or slow us down at any level. And you can end their power over us right now. You can shut their asses down by financially supporting us at info wars tour.com. You can help me elude consequences right now. Yeah. I don't know if it's a good sales pitch to be like, what about Darren McBreen? Here's, here's, I mean, yeah, no, I mean, won't somebody think of the Darren McBreens stuff. It's tough to think about what would happen to them if info wars would go away. I saw that, I saw that some outlet tracked down one of the jurors and

talked to them about that. I really feel like an interesting piece would be showing one of the jurors or if you could all of the jurors, like these videos afterwards and seeing how they would feel about their judgment then. That would be a really interesting thing. Yeah. Yeah. I wonder if they'd be like, oh, I'd go much larger. Yeah. I wonder if they would listen to this and be like, wow, we should have known all of this, but I also wonder how much of it is like, you know, the distinction between the actual damages and the punitive damages. Right. Like, I wonder if that would be swayed by him just being a total shithead. Yeah. Yeah. I think, I mean, I imagine that they, they came to the compensatory damages based on like math and

shit. And then if they knew that the punitive damages would come out to Alex as being like, they're not going to do fuck all to us and we've destroyed them. Like punitive damages don't exist if the punishment is then equaled out by the guy saying, fuck you. We didn't mean anything. That's not really punitive then, is it? Not really. Right. But if there are caps in Texas, then I don't know what you can do. I don't know. It's a mess. Texas justice. Also, Alex couldn't start a podcast tomorrow and get as many listeners because he's kicked off iTunes. So it's going to be tough. Going to be tough. I don't think Spotify is going to really go for you either. No, because he even the episodes of Rogan with them on them. They're not going to, they're not going to give

you your own show after getting rid of their most popular podcaster. You could go to Stitcher. Yeah. Well, maybe anyway, the show ends with a, uh, a protracted bizarre, uh, sales pitch. Get DNA force, get bodies, get our great immune support, get ultra 12, get X2, get super mental vitality finally back in stock and know that you are literally in an arm wrestling contest with Satan. What? And all I am is the arm. What? Info wars is the arm. What? I got a strong arm and a strong will, but the power to hold it in position is you. So when I'm struggling, you're struggling. When I'm in combat with these people and they're doing everything they can, it's much easier to just stop sitting here to still mate with them and for you to just to get

behind us, pray tonight for us, pray tomorrow for us, spread the word about us, buy the products. And I'm telling you, we're going to slam their hand down. We're going to beat their ass when I smell nothing but victory. I'm not a victory, but the spirit I got right here is victory. And I have never felt better. I have never felt stronger because of you. Because God works through souls and you've done it and you've done incredible things. I thought it works through arms. Think about it. We're the number one enemy. We're who the enemy hates more than anybody. Why is that? Because I'm real and you're real. And together we create a energy loop. What? A synergy and an amplifying network of goodness. I thought you were an arm wrestler. They wanted to shut down

the churches during lockdown. What? We're good people coming together and we're doing it now together. So go to infowarstore.com and get great products. Sign up for all of us. You can be 10% off. What a ride. That was, I mean, I feel like he just watched over the top last night and then just went off from there. He was like, I've got this arm wrestling thing. I'm the arm. Uh-oh, that doesn't make sense. They're the body. All right. We're in a stalemate with the devil. We're back. Now we're in a stalemate and now we're all just energy. We're feeding off of each other. We're synergy. Not even just energy. We're an energy loop. We're an energy loop. Because I'm real. You're real. Why does that matter? We'll win this hand wrestling arm wrestling

contest. I feel like the arm wrestling got lost there at the end. But it was just a conduit with which he could ask you for money. But he doesn't need it. He's for Kid Daniels. But I want to win the arm wrestling contest now. Would you, would you leave Kid Daniels high and dry in an arm wrestling contest? I wouldn't want him to feel that kind of aloneness. The guy who is so talented who I defamed somebody and then cried in a deposition about it. If it weren't for Kit, I would say we don't need to give him Full Wars money. But now that I know that it's for Kit. And what do you think about Greg Reese? Oh, I've never thought about Greg Reese. It's not healthy too. No, it's a bad idea. So we come to the end of this and I don't think

we learned all that much about Dugan's daughter. I found myself to be underwhelmed by his coverage and a lot of it was just about himself and why, why, why can't I do false flag stuff when they can? Right. Right. A lot of that. I always appreciate that stuff. I always appreciate our episodes that start with a topic and then end with you having to remind me what it was. The topic was happens more than it should. It really happens a lot. Yeah. It doesn't happen as often as people collapsing at podiums on live TV. That's happening all the time. All the time. It's nuts. So anyway, I like that jazz. I wonder if that'll be a new feature of the show. I like it. Yeah. I wonder if that's a sign of like GCN just giving up. Elevator music from now on. Oh, yeah.

I could start an elevator music podcast across the street tomorrow. Okay. Look, we'll be back. But tell them we have a website. Indeed, we do. It's knowledge fight.com. Yep. We're also on Twitter. We are Twitter. That knowledge underscore fights. We will be back. But until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I'm Wilford snibble snabble of the Gribble Pibble. And now here comes the sex robot, Andy and Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. So Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.